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AP: "Experts" Say You Should Take Trump's Promise of "Mass Deportations" Very Seriously, Because He Means It
M'dudes, I can only vote for him so hard.
Donald Trump has long pledged to deport millions of people, but he's bringing more specifics to his current bid for the White House: invoking wartime powers, relying on like-minded governors and using the military. Trump's record as president shows a vast gulf between his ambitions and the legal, fiscal and political realities of mass deportations of people in the United States illegally -- 11 million in January 2022, by the Homeland Security Department's latest estimate. Former President Barack Obama carried out 432,000 deportations in 2013, the highest annual total since records were kept. Reporting from San Diego, Elliot Spagat of The Associated Press learned that deportations under Trump never topped 350,000. But he and his chief immigration policy architect, Stephen Miller, have offered clues in interviews and rallies of taking a different approach if they are returned to power in November. They could benefit from lessons learned during their of four years in office and, potentially, from more Trump-appointed judges. "What Trump seems to be contemplating is potentially lawful," said Joseph Nunn, counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University's School of Law. "There might not be a lot of legal barriers. It is going to be logistically extraordinarily complicated and difficult. The military is not going to like doing it and they are going to drag their feet as much as they can, but it is possible, so it should be taken seriously."You've convinced me, you've convinced me, AP! Ease up, Ripley. You're just grinding metal.
The Trump campaign, asked how his pledge would be carried out, said Trump would begin the largest deportation program in U.S. history, without elaborating in detail. Karoline Leavitt, a spokeswoman, said Trump "would marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation of illegal criminals, drug dealers, and human traffickers."
Trump has said he would invoke the Alien Enemies Act, a 1798 law that allows the president to deport any noncitizen from a country that the U.S. is at war with. Texas Gov, Greg Abbott has advanced a theory that illegal immigration amounts to an invasion to justify state enforcement measures, so far without success, but legal scholars say judges may be reluctant to second-guess what a president considers a foreign aggression. The sweeping Alien Enemies Act authority may sidestep a law that bans the military from civilian law enforcement. Trump has said he would focus on deploying the National Guard, whose troops can be activated on orders of a governor. Miller says troops under sympathetic Republican governors would send troops to nearby states that refuse to participate. "The Alabama National Guard is going to arrest illegal aliens in Alabama and the Virginia National Guard in Virginia. And if you're going to go into an unfriendly state like Maryland, well, there would just be Virginia doing the arrest in Maryland, right, very close, very nearby," Miller said last year on "The Charlie Kirk Show."
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2024 03:58 PM (kgE5c)
Posted by: crabgrass farmer at October 01, 2024 03:58 PM (Q5O4Q)
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 01, 2024 03:58 PM (JeYYB)
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 01, 2024 03:58 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 01, 2024 03:58 PM (mFPWF)
Posted by: hobbitopoly at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (k9OZB)
Posted by: thathalfrican - steady mobbing at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (eZwyX)
^^^ This. If he starts doing mass deportations that last more than four hours, imma have to call my doctor.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (kgE5c)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (oZhjI)
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I can't wait for every broken family to be front page of the NYT.
Especially after years of ignoring dead, raped, and maimed Americans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (tT6L1)
What I hope: Take Trump's Promise of "Mass Deportations" Very Seriously, Because He Means It
What I dream of: This includes most of Hollywood
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:00 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:00 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: hobbitopoly
democrats say vote early and often, and even when "late," so to speak, so please -- vote as you will.
Posted by: ace at October 01, 2024 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (BkEzK)
And throw bureaucrats that send illegals government money in prison. Hell this might be the most important part.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: thathalfrican - steady mobbing at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (eZwyX)
"the largest deportation operation of illegal criminals, drug dealers, and human traffickers."
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The people quoted -- they're against this. Why?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (biznJ)
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (nXhwP)
It must also be possible to remove these people.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (ssz2a)
How does AP not get deporting a few million illegals is a feature and not a bug?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: IrishEi at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (3ImbR)
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Breaking911 @Breaking911 1h
NEW TRUMP AD AFTER ATTACK ON ISRAEL: "America doesn't need another TikTok performer."
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As above.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (CEzQx)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (q7hip)
"the largest deportation operation of illegal criminals, drug dealers, and human traffickers."
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Yes! The Democratic party!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (BkEzK)
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The people quoted -- they're against this. Why?
Because they are getting money and/or votes from them
Also, this is where sex trafficking comes from
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Moonbeam at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (rbKZ6)
Posted by: crabgrass farmer at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (Q5O4Q)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (QNSds)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (BnEjh)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (oZhjI)
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"Sex work is real work!"
-12 year old Guatemalan, apparently
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: steevy at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (HJ9BW)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: Eternity Matters at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (YfbhZ)
Posted by: crabgrass farmer at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (Q5O4Q)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (BnEjh)
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Kamala announced in her border stop that she was going to deport a bunch of people, too.
Think she means it? Is the AP reporting about how she's super cereal about it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (GBKbO)
I'm so hard I could ring the gong with my dong when they get escorted out of the country!
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (FAbrK)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: SMOD at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: steevy at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (HJ9BW)
Remember, though, to set up the cargo bay like a bowling pin sweep. We don't want anyone to get left out from jumping.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (vFG9F)
This is hyperbole, it's literally never going to happen and the speaker knows it. It's just fearmongering on an epic scale.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (QNSds)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (q7hip)
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Trebuchet X contest. Winner who builds the trebuchet which can hold the most illegals wins 10 million bucks.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (tT6L1)
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Yeah, and they all walked right back over in the last 3 years. The difference is, Trump will seal the border so they don't come back.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: steevy at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (HJ9BW)
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If I remember correctly, mass deportations was polling at something like 48% in 2020.
It's now regularly getting greater than 60% in polling.
I mean, polling (spit), but damn. It's like announcing that Trump is going to impose Voter ID on the nation and expecting the nation to be aghast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
Kamala announced in her border stop that she was going to deport a bunch of people, too.
Think she means it? Is the AP reporting about how she's super cereal about it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (GBKbO)
This means she's seriously underwater if she's stealing Trump positions now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (q7hip)
All you need to do is just divert them into the outbound route and there they go.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (n7h9X)
Don’t be fooled by David Frum’s rather reserved academic mien. The CNN regular is as rabid a Trump/JD Vance hater as anyone on the liberal media’s Team Kamala. In recent times, we have caught Frum calling Vance a “racist, corrupt” Trump with better hair and a law degree. And comparing Trump to psychopathic mass murderer […]
https://tinyurl.com/42famyrh
NewsBusters
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (CEzQx)
https://tinyurl.com/5n8p4wj5
Posted by: IrishEi at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM
Hilarious!
Posted by: Moonbeam at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (rbKZ6)
Hey! You swiped our number!
Posted by: The Mid 80's at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (1dUol)
That's really a good line. Congratulations to whoever came up with it!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (MQJVv)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (biznJ)
Those MS-13 human traffickers and rape aficionados are just Sparks of Divinity anxious for a chance to become brain surgeons!
Posted by: David "Karen" French at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (OguvZ)
"Experts say"
"Studies say"
And it's no coincidence that the authoritarian Party is the ones demanding you obey the experts, blindly follow the studies.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (BnEjh)
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The people quoted -- they're against this. Why?
Because they are getting money and/or votes from them
Also, this is where sex trafficking comes from
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (oZhjI)
There's no differentiation for them. They're perfectly fine with these illegals getting in.
After all, who will clean your toilets and pick your lettuce?
Exploitation is just the price of virtue signaling.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (q7hip)
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Remember when she stole "no tax on tips" like two months ago?
She alternates between stealing Trump's ideas and policies and then bending over backwards on very base appeals for the left, like how last week she announced she wanted to end the filibuster to pass a Roe v Wade bill in the Senate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (q7hip)
This is about the fifth policy she's tried swiping. Only the pro Israel line is one she rejects.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (n7h9X)
To be effective, some federal agencies should be "restructured" with prejudice. For the cherry on top, the Department of Education should be disestablished ASAP.
Posted by: mrp at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 03:59 PM (oZhjI)
This is one of the most amazing phenomena... "Every daycare worker should be required to have at least a Masters to watch baby Mikelayh. I'm so fucking sick of how expensive daycare is!"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (FAbrK)
NG Units that refuse?
TDY to the Aleutian Islands to count used jockstraps for two years.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 01, 2024 04:06 PM (yL/az)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM
Hae ye ne'er heard o'me, lad? I was Longshank's finest!
Posted by: Ludgar at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (a3Q+t)
We’ve all become desensitized, but it’s amazing how at this point the Trump campaign rests entirely on denouncing things that aren’t happening — a imaginary [sic] bad economy, imaginary runaway crime and now an imaginary failure of Biden and Harris to respond to natural disaster
Catturd ™ @catturd2 Oct 1
Low IQ nitwit Paul Krugman keeps his perfect record of being wrong 100% of the time.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (CEzQx)
It was 11 million in the 90s. The number today has to be close to 50 million.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (jyRIG)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (3I4cv)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: SMOD at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: SMOD at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (RHGPo)
Joseph Nunn, counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University's School of Law.
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"Justice" anywhere in the title of an academic department = communist.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (Ijbq0)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (ufFY8)
"The results from our NBC News/Telemundo/CNBC Latino poll: The Democrats' advantage with Latino voters continues to shrink"
In 2016 Hilary! led with latino's by 36%
Kamletoe? She's leading by 14%
LMFAO
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Accomack at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (Y6Ecf)
Posted by: Lacra at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (4pwAx)
Kamletoe? She's leading by 14%
LMFAO
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:08 PM (i7Q7S)
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Seriously, in what demo is Kamala improving?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:09 PM (GBKbO)
Also, he said yesterday he thinks he has only been to China 15 "or so" times, and not the 30 plus trips he has claimed for years.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 01, 2024 04:09 PM (291Vr)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 01, 2024 04:09 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (wBaIH)
Not Poland anymore. Their government was toppled by the EU and now goes along, though currently they seem too busy trying to support Ukraine to import muslims. They do have a lot of Ukrainian refugees they let in a few years ago on their hands,
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:09 PM (n7h9X)
It moved.
But, seriously, I do not believe this for one second.
I am old enough to remember last time Trump was President.
I am with my spirit animal Jesse Kelly and I believe that any deportation scheme will not survive contact with the first sad video images.
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (xhfG9)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (wBaIH)
https://tinyurl.com/5n8p4wj5
OK, I larfed.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Settled Science at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (jyRIG)
Posted by: Buttigig at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (WXNFJ)
Are the mass deportations of Leftists? Please say yes, please.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (BkEzK)
I want a Department of Evicting All You Stupid Drama Queens Who Promised to GTFO of the USA, to be run by an appropriate Moron such as MP P3 or Berserker.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (FnneF)
SWEDEN: 79 PER CENT OF 'REFUGEES' HAVE VACATIONED IN THE COUNTRY THE 'FLED' FROM
Posted by: SMOD at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (RHGPo)
Either they did it the right way, and are pissed at the cheaters or they did it illegally but that was so long ago now and they hate the cheaters because they are gonna get everyone sent home.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (q7hip)
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Harry Enten says seniors, which is a shocker.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (291Vr)
Posted by: RNB at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (xXBob)
Posted by: Crazy at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (LqBFq)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Striking Longshoremen << Working Longthrowmen
Posted by: mikeski at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (ArPsO)
They'll want to go home. The freedom we're about to win is hitting other countries, too. You can see the signs in El Salvador and Argentina in this hemisphere.
Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (uAczH)
And throw bureaucrats that send illegals government money in prison. Hell this might be the most important part.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:01 PM (oZhjI)
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And use lawfare against the NGOs that are supporting illegal immigration. I don't care if they're religious organizations - go after them anyway.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (YqDXo)
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White Liberal Karens who scream for full term abortion despite no straight man wanting to touch their no no squares
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Mighty Searcher of Wagsham at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (M7vhK)
Posted by: Accomack
Sadly, I think you are correct. The game plan with friendly judges is long worked out, I'm sure.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (xCA6C)
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Harry Enten says seniors, which is a shocker.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (291Vr)
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Maybe.
Although, if seniors were turning against Trump because of covid, it's hard to imagine Kamala improving on those numbers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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This clown couldn't point to Ashville, NC on a map.
Where is "America's Anchor" Lester Holt in his hip waders? Why isn't he down there interviewing the people of NC so they can tell the world about this great federal government response?
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (vFG9F)
Think she means it? Is the AP reporting about how she's super cereal about it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (GBKbO)
This means she's seriously underwater if she's stealing Trump positions now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (q7hip)
If she "somehow" "wins" the election, expect to hear this phrase used a lot over the next year:
"Circumstances have changed!"
Posted by: naturalfake at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (eDfFs)
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Eff 'em. If they were here legally, they wouldn't have to hide in fear.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (YqDXo)
We’ve all become desensitized, but it’s amazing how at this point the Trump campaign rests entirely on denouncing things that aren’t happening — a imaginary [sic] bad economy, imaginary runaway crime and now an imaginary failure of Biden and Harris to respond to natural disaster
Catturd ™ @catturd2 Oct 1
Low IQ nitwit Paul Krugman keeps his perfect record of being wrong 100% of the time.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (CEzQx)
Krugman should be air-dropped into the hills above Asheville.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (FnneF)
Let's ask Ike.
Ike: "Two words: Operation Wetback."
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (AiZBA)
"Circumstances have changed!"
Posted by: naturalfake at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (eDfFs)
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False.
It'll be, "She never said that. Video of her saying that is Russian disinformation."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (YqDXo)
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Bush and his faith based initiatives were the carrot that lured churches into bed with government. The damage wrought by the Bush administration really cannot be overstated.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (tT6L1)
Stop giving them money, housing, and assistance to live here and a significant number will self-deport.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (hB7mE)
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Mighty Searcher of Wagsham at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (M7vhK)
It's not a square, bigot, it's a box.
Posted by: White Liberal Karen screaming for full term abortion at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (FAbrK)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (wBaIH)
Tim and I call on Israel to not attack Iran for this mostly peaceful attack and concentrate on the real enemy.... "Global Warming". If Israel does retaliate, I suggest they use Electric/Battery Powered Missiles, Aircraft and Armored Vehicles to hit Iran in order to keep a small Carbon Footprint.
Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (1t11C)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (PiwSw)
I doubt they need to worry.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:13 PM (xCA6C)
Think she means it? Is the AP reporting about how she's super cereal about it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (GBKbO)
This means she's seriously underwater if she's stealing Trump positions now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:05 PM (q7hip)
________________
Chlamydia, pointing at OrangeManBad: "Yeah, what he said!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:13 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:13 PM (tT6L1)
"The military is not going to like doing it and they are going to drag their feet as much as they can, but it is possible, so it should be taken seriously."
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In other words, more insubordination, possibly outright mutiny. He thinks this is good.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 01, 2024 04:13 PM (Ijbq0)
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latinos loving them some illegals was always the great lie RINOS/Chamber of Commerce told us to get their cheap labor, insisting this was the only way you could win over the hispanic vote
Sure, Jan
Also latinX That was the great lie told to us
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Mighty Searcher of Wagsham at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (M7vhK)
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (CEzQx)
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Him and Juan Williams should start a club.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (v0R5T)
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Harry Enten says seniors, which is a shocker.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (291Vr)
Does he specify *living* seniors?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (FnneF)
Let's ask Ike.
Ike: "Two words: Operation Wetback."
That was a very different country.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (xCA6C)
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Small error there boys. The current DEI command and control of the military will be replaced with American Constitutionalists who will execute their orders with determination. Our enlisted ranks, gleaned of soy will eagerly obey.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (rwlGT)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
I don't know that "Stealing Trump's positions" is a great framing for that.
It's more like "Recognizing the objective superiority of Trump's positions". With the caveat that she doesn't believe any of them and will never implement them.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (hB7mE)
You can’t raid every business of course. But what you can do is instill fear in people and make hiring illegals not worth it. It’s like taxes. Few people get audited but most people are afraid of getting sites so they don’t cheat.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (jyRIG)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 01, 2024 04:14 PM (lTGtQ)
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It's probably just some lopsided demo of upper middle class women that are never going to vote Trump no matter what.
Posted by: Lacra at October 01, 2024 04:15 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 01, 2024 04:15 PM (M7vhK)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:15 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: Archimedes
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Let's take it back.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 04:15 PM (rwlGT)
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Harry Enten says seniors, which is a shocker.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 01, 2024 04:10 PM (291Vr)
Does he specify *living* seniors?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket "
She's got influencer Jimmy Carter in the bag.
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:16 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (fwDg9)
You can't prove where you came from? TFB, we'll pick your return destination.
>>> 101 Just enforce the law and they will have to self deport.
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (vFG9F)
People forget this is a thing.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:16 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 01, 2024 04:16 PM (+kWhq)
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It's probably just some lopsided demo of upper middle class women that are never going to vote Trump no matter what.
Posted by: Lacra at October 01, 2024 04:15 PM (4pwAx)
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"The better way to frame that is the Republican base."
-Karl Rove
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
.......
So that's why my Mail Order bride never showed up.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:16 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 01, 2024 04:17 PM (Hp8bi)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
750k.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 01, 2024 04:17 PM (yL/az)
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Very unclear. The RCP Avg for Minnesota has her up 2.2%
LOL
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:17 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 01, 2024 04:17 PM (O8bOp)
Posted by: Oglebay at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (ogTiX)
What if the National Guard would not venture into other states, but instead by threatening deportations force these bums to go to sympathetic states and run said states into the ground by forcing them to pay for all these people themselves?
And then Trump cuts off federal monies to said states?
I like it.
Posted by: The_Hoser at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (3qNLt)
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Very unclear. The RCP Avg for Minnesota has her up 2.2%
LOL
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:17 PM (i7Q7S)
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But the favorite son effect from VPs!
I was told it was a guaranteed thing and the only path to victory for Trump was picking Youngkin in VA!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (GBKbO)
Then cut off benefits for the illegals and watch them leave.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (tT6L1)
I guess AP WANTS illegal criminals, drug dealers and human traffickers here.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (hB7mE)
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This. Here's my plan:
1. Insist on E-Verify for employment
2. No handouts of money
3. No handouts of housing
4. Stiff withholding requirements on cash transfers overseas, redeemable only by filing income tax returns that pass muster
5. No provision of healthcare without proof of legal residency
6. No school admission for kids of parents here illegally
7. No birthright citizenship for those here illegally
8. Investigation and prosecution of NGOs who are supporting this crap, along with removing their tax-exempt status
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Livia Drusilla at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (lAAta)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
750k.
Check that. 1.3 million
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (yL/az)
A news media afraid to find out and report?
What if Israel is hitting Iran's nuke spot, really hitting it hard, when tonight's stupid "debate"
show begins?
Posted by: M. Gaga at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (k4+um)
Posted by: Buttigig at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (J2vNu)
Oh no, my friend. They have civil rights now!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (q7hip)
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You cant be up 2 in Minnesota and yet be doing better in other swing states, which is why any poll that would show her doing well in places like Georgia or NC is poopie ding ding
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (M7vhK)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (QSrLX)
Then cut off benefits for the illegals and watch them leave.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (tT6L1)
I don't want to sue those fckers, I want them treated as enemies. They are assisting an invasion.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (FnneF)
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Right. It is funny, the more exposure this big War Hero gets, the less popular he is. Even in his own state.
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Settled Science at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (jyRIG)
Hell, I probably have 1100 illegals in my neighborhood.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (Ad8y9)
Let's take advantage of the current situation and help out a US run business in the process.
Posted by: Orson at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (dIske)
>>"What Trump seems to be contemplating is potentially lawful," said Joseph Nunn, counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University's School of Law.
Yea Joe, deporting illegal alines is perfectly legal.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (J2vNu)
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There you go again, confusing the issue with common sense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (MQJVv)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (kwCuz)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (Hkcdp)
It was 11 million in the 90s. The number today has to be close to 50 million.
We've been reproducing below the replacement rate of 2.1 since 1973, when the population was 207 million, now we're at 340 million...
Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (eST6G)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: Jack the Ripper at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (Z8Z0P)
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Right. It is funny, the more exposure this big War Hero gets, the less popular he is. Even in his own state.
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (i7Q7S)
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"We could have highlighted it, but then we got high."
-MN GOP
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (MQJVv)
Who says we give them a choice?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: andycanuck
You don't need concentration camps if you deport illegals and the foreign students who riot.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (uHLvs)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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HUMANS ARE NOT ILLEGAL
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (i7Q7S)
Those experts… really can’t sneak anything past them. They should be in charge of everything!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (OW907)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:20 PM (FnneF)
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I think bankrupting and jail time is a fine solution.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (tT6L1)
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no worries, the UK will gladly take them
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (M7vhK)
A criminal is someone who breaks the law. Right?
We have a law against entering the country without going through the proper channels.
People who enter the country in this fashion have broken the law.
Therefore people who entered the country in this fashion are ... say it with me ... criminals. By definition.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: zooomzooom at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (rfnUk)
You'll get a male odor bride.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (67maw)
Let's take advantage of the current situation and help out a US run business in the process.
Posted by: Orson
Don't need to make the planes too comfortable. Throw em in like cattle.
And commander a Disney cruise ship. Can easily hold 10,000 people. Put people on the decks. Line em up in the hallways. Start making trips.
Drop em off in Venezuela.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (XP5BY)
No valid papers = ticket home
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (q7hip)
A criminal is someone who breaks the law. Right?
We have a law against entering the country without going through the proper channels.
People who enter the country in this fashion have broken the law.
Therefore people who entered the country in this fashion are ... say it with me ... criminals. By definition.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)
NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL!
NORMAN, COORDINATE!
REEEEEEE!!!!!
Posted by: leftists at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (yL/az)
Wow… if Ike can do that many with 1950 logistics Trump can do 10x today
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (OW907)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (PiwSw)
As to be expected. It's the "official" source. But it is not definitive.
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (xhfG9)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024
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9. . . . and of businesses who, knowingly or unknowingly, hire illegals. Levy a huge fine for each illegal -- and the CEO risks prison time.
That'll end such hiring real quick.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (J2vNu)
Tired of accepting the premise that it can’t be done. It’s been done already, just UNdo it.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: blake
And after that, we really get ugly!!
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (67maw)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (fwDg9)
I've noticed this is a consistent pattern.
We import "refugees" from countries we have friendly relations with and then give them money so they can go vacation back home. What the hell are they refugees from...not having my money?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (FCrpy)
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (xhfG9)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)
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I did that with my lefty daughter. Reeeee!
The left really likes it when you point out it's like expecting the family who catches a burglar in their house to feed and clothe the burglar.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (7PziG)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:21 PM (Hkcdp)
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This.
And prosecute, if necessary by ginning up some offense the way the Left did with Trump.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (YqDXo)
That'll end such hiring real quick.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Perdue, Sugardale, Smithfield - we're looking at you.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (J2vNu)
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There you go again, confusing the issue with common sense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
.......
...and facts.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (yL/az)
Wow… if Ike can do that many with 1950 logistics Trump can do 10x today
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (OW907)
~750 Border Patrol agents at the time.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 01, 2024 04:26 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:26 PM (PDf99)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:24 PM (Hkcdp)
Can't. Won't.
Doesn't matter.
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2024 04:26 PM (xhfG9)
Every sign outside of polling points to a massive win for Trump and yet the polls disagree.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (67maw)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Perdue, Sugardale, Smithfield - we're looking at you.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (WXNFJ)
But, but...Americans won't work for the slave wages we want to pay to keep our stock prices high and my CEO bonus excessively excessive.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (BkEzK)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)
You forgot the muh feels clause. I’m paraphrasing, but the US Constituion says that any law they prevents a leftard from an undeserved feeling of moral righteousness, with no sacrifice on their part, of course, is automatically struck down.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (kwCuz)
Posted by: Livia Drusilla at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (lAAta)
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (xhfG9)
_______________
(Raises hand.)
The Deep State will fight him tooth and nail, and may prevail, but I do believe that Trump means business.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
Good times, good times. This country is a blast! SO MUCH FUN
Posted by: Manuel Labor at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (v0R5T)
Hold them *personally* liable for any crimes committed by an illegal they brought in.
NGO Mary brought in rapist Jose? Jose gets 20 years for rape, and Mary gets two years as an accessory.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:28 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2024 04:25 PM (xhfG9)
Well he's not going to do it himself.
I would expect a shitton of lawfare, and not as much action as we'd like... but then I'm *really* expecting cheating far beyond 2020, and someone / something After Trump.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:28 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:28 PM (YqDXo)
The deportation movies have been greenlighted by Netflix, Amazon, and Disney, the heartwrenching scenes of mothers being separated from children and, more horrifying, BEING FORCED TO CARRY BABIES TO FULL TERM AND BEING BORN, the sneering villians 'welcoming' the displaced Dreamers back...
Brrrr...
All we need is Kathleen Kennedy to get this show on the road, so to speak.
Posted by: Auspex at October 01, 2024 04:28 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (PDf99)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)
This please.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (uHd5d)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (awTae)
So I'm all for letting the Guard handle it. It really isn't a problem for the police. They have enough domestic barbarians to handle these days so as it is.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (DDGz9)
Winning the election, at least among living citizens, is pretty much a done deal for Trump.
His two challenges are:
1) Can you beat the cheat this time?
2) Are you going to let a bunch of bureaucrats and Hawaiian judges stop you from implementing your agenda this time?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (oZhjI)
NGO Mary brought in rapist Jose? Jose gets 20 years for rape, and Mary gets two years as an accessory.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:28 PM (oZhjI)
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I like it. It's like NYC's law that anyone bringing in someone who becomes a burden on the city is financially liable for that person.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (YqDXo)
.......
Hey, everybody needs a vacation, freeloading is hard work.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:30 PM (v0R5T)
Democrats are on record multiple times saying none of those criminals should be deported.
As asked above, "who is Kamala improving with?"
Well, is amnesty popular with the public generally?
Or is it an issue of great importance to a small segment?
If their "toughest immigration bill in decades" was popular--with any side--it'd be law by now.
So, it's something that that is her immigration position.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2024 04:30 PM (BnEjh)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (oZhjI)
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Listen, polls have been super accurate recently.
Well, super accurate if you curate them to exclude the weird ones. But treat all polls the same anyway. Also, ignore Rasmussen and Trafalgar because they're stupid, even though they make up 1/3 of the RCP average.
Also, registration numbers mean nothing. Just because FL has lost 1 million registered Democrats, that doesn't mean that Democrats are hurting or don't have a great shot in FL.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)
Democrats are on record multiple times saying none of those criminals should be deported.
As asked above, "who is Kamala improving with?"
Well, is amnesty popular with the public generally?
Or is it an issue of great importance to a small segment?
If their "toughest immigration bill in decades" was popular--with any side--it'd be law by now.
So, it's something that that is her immigration position.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2024 04:30 PM (BnEjh)
She's improving with the Schwab / Soros / Gates / Wyss (?) demographic.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 01, 2024 04:27 PM (67maw)
Lume and Mando commercials are one of the reasons I believe civilization is headed off a cliff. I hate them…. Not kidding
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (OW907)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:29 PM (oZhjI)
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If Republicans take the House AND the Senate (please, God) then impeach and convict the Hawaiian judges, and fire the leftist bureaucrats. Change the Civil Service law if necessary.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (YqDXo)
NGO Mary brought in rapist Jose? Jose gets 20 years for rape, and Mary gets two years as an accessory.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:28 PM (oZhjI)
That's not even ginning up a crime.
It's loaning a guy your car and the keys to the bank so he can rob the bank.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (DDGz9)
Posted by: Manuel Labor at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (PDf99)
1 Hiring illegals to work your food processing plants leads to all kinds of disease.
2 Regulators let it slide
3 Boars Head owns a monopoly in meat processing.
4 Shortages for over priced diseased meat soar.
Yay, USA
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (wBaIH)
NY had the money for the illegal meal cards from FEMA...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:32 PM (fwDg9)
Some statewide races have been missed by nearly 20 points.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)
Remind me again why we have a military that is unaccountable to civilian leadership through the Commander in Chief and could do whatever the hell they want to do or not want to do?
Why is it that the military told Trump to phuque right off when he asked for the military to help with J6?
Why is that General Milley had greater allegiances to the CCP than to POTUS and boasted that he would reveal Trump's plans to Chinese leadership first?
I'm getting sick and tired of paying for a phuqued up America Hating social program that runs around pretending to play GI Joe between drag races and handing out tens of billions in military hardware to every terrorist regime on the planet.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 01, 2024 04:32 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:31 PM (FnneF)
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You left out MS-13, and TdA.
Trump needs to engage Bukele as a consultant.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:33 PM (YqDXo)
cue the "Modern day underground railroad" talking point from the libs and media.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 01, 2024 04:33 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Oglebay at October 01, 2024 04:33 PM (ogTiX)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 01, 2024 04:33 PM (kwCuz)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:33 PM (PDf99)
________________
If they drag their feet, relieve the senior officers on the spot. Start with the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (YqDXo)
Just stock Haiti with cats and dogs.
whoa whoa whoa whoa
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (q7hip)
Excessively fine and arrest employers who do not check immigration status when hiring?
Move more illegals to Chicago?
Make living here uncomfortable.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (w3u3d)
++++
Kicking out illegal aliens is "potentially lawful."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (HnUIn)
You can’t raid every business of course. But what you can do is instill fear in people and make hiring illegals not worth it. It’s like taxes. Few people get audited but most people are afraid of getting sites so they don’t cheat.
Posted by: Settled Science
Make sure you start with some of the largest companies, to make sure the message gets across.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (VNX3d)
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If they drag their feet, relieve the senior officers on the spot. Start with the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (YqDXo)
Fire everyone above what, Captain (or the various branch equivalents)?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (HnUIn)
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But it needs to be litigated through the courts for years and billions of dollars to trial lawyers to find out, first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (q7hip)
Essentially blogging. Glorified Facebook page for essays.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (PDf99)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 01, 2024 04:33 PM (kwCuz)
Lol.
Every motherfucker in this country has at least one great grandparent who's some tribe or another.
Indians didn't disappear. They married in.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (DDGz9)
Those poor put upon corporations, they’re just trying to make a buck!
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (eZwyX)
_______________
Leftist: "American Indians didn't have limitations on immigration."
Loyal American: "Yeah, and how did that work out for them?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (YqDXo)
If they drag their feet, relieve the senior officers on the spot. Start with the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Trump should already be planning on cashiering every flag officer.
You didn't object to the clot shot mandate? You should be happy you weren't shot.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (q7hip)
Essentially blogging. Glorified Facebook page for essays.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (PDf99)
Is there a market for an unfunny, late 40s white female blog?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (q7hip)
Texas Gov, Greg Abbott has advanced a theory that illegal immigration amounts to an invasion to justify state enforcement measures, so far without success, but legal scholars say judges may be reluctant to second-guess what a president considers a foreign aggression.
++++
This strikes me immediately as a dry hole as far as the Constitution is concerned. Could they get away with it? Maybe. And maybe they *should* get away with it. But these are not countries with whom we are at war.
"War" has a very specific meaning. It's a state of war, formalized by the US Congress. We don't have that. We have something akin to war in fact, but not by law. It seems to me that there's no way to square this circle, and it's begging for judicial intervention.
Just do it. Don't go groping for precedent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
Lume and Mando commercials are one of the reasons I believe civilization is headed off a cliff. I hate them…. Not kidding
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
How about ball hammocks?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (5zBvQ)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (q7hip)
Ask Taylor Lorenz.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (PDf99)
Tim and I call on Israel to not attack Iran for this mostly peaceful attack and concentrate on the real enemy.... "Global Warming". If Israel does retaliate, I suggest they use Electric/Battery Powered Missiles, Aircraft and Armored Vehicles to hit Iran in order to keep a small Carbon Footprint.
Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 01, 2024 04:12 PM (1t11C)
launching missiles into the stratosphere has got to have an environmental impact. Why does Kamala hate Gaia?
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (HnUIn)
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But it needs to be litigated through the courts for years and billions of dollars to trial lawyers to find out, first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)
If the FEMA money stops flowing, they'll happily get on the military planes to go home. It's amazing how much money FEMA paid out to illegals in their 2024 budget...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (exHjb)
Just do it. Don't go groping for precedent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
We had a war on drugs and a war on terrorism.
It's really just about the advertising angle.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
Don't look for precedent.
Be the precedent.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (DDGz9)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Sounds like cop talk to me.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (v0R5T)
Spot on. This is critical
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (nFx0I)
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So it's difficult. Putting men on the moon was difficult. So do we now shrink from doing difficult things?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:16 PM (vFG9F)
Plastic, I hope.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (k9OZB)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (q7hip)
Ask Taylor Lorenz.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 01, 2024 04:37 PM (PDf99)
She will be too busy doxxing her commenters to blog much.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (wFTTN)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
In this respect Trump should emulate Harry Reid. It worked didn’t it? It’s almost always better to ask for forgiveness than permission
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (OW907)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:39 PM (Hkcdp)
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It won't be. Logistically it will be hard. It will also be virtually unnecessary. Mass deportations would need to happen for maybe six or twelve months. After that, we're going to start running out of aliens. Most of the illegals here won't need to be forcibly evicted. If the wind changes direction and it's clear that we mean it, most are going to quietly repatriate all by themselves.
That will also - whether the voluntary part happens or not - cause widespread war in Latin America. These aliens are here because of the cartels, either as sponsors or agents. The bill is never going to be settled, and reprisals are going to happen as a result of the mass default of the sponsored aliens and the shutdown of various profitable trades. The cartels and the people and the governments are likely going to fall into three-or-more-way war. It'll get ugly south of the border.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:39 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 01, 2024 04:40 PM (53mGS)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:41 PM (oZhjI)
You didn't object to the clot shot mandate? You should be happy you weren't shot.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:36 PM (oZhjI)
________________
"You supported DEI and the transgender crap in the military? Congratulations! You're now a civilian!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:41 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:41 PM (oZhjI)
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In the 40s, there was a war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:41 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 01, 2024 04:41 PM (nFx0I)
Punish those that hire them.
Seize monies sent home by them.
Arrest wherever possible
Deport instantly the known criminals
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (q7hip)
Just because we aren't fighting back doesn't mean there isn't one now
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (oZhjI)
Make Bounties Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 01, 2024 04:40 PM (53mGS)
FBI got really good at finding every dang J6er - it would be very easy to find every illegal immigrant protestor at Hamas protests, illegals protests/mobs from NYC, and other events, and just deport them. We've proven the tech over the last 4 years...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (exHjb)
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1841215305621946820
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (NZnln)
In the 40s, the idea that we'd have trannies in the military and pay for their surgery would have been met with utter disbelief. You can't use what 1940s America did to predict what we'll do now.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (oZhjI)
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Legally it sure does. There is no war. There hasn't been one since WWII.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (HnUIn)
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If necessary, raise the ante on the illegals by incarcerating them first, and then deporting them after they serve their sentence.
The rest of the illegals will go back south hot foot.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (YqDXo)
1 Hiring illegals to work your food processing plants leads to all kinds of disease.
2 Regulators let it slide
3 Boars Head owns a monopoly in meat processing.
4 Shortages for over priced diseased meat soar.
Yay, USA
I stopped buying Whore's Bed a long time ago because their Hate America First program.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:41 PM (HnUIn)
By definition we are being invaded by multiple countries.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (q7hip)
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1841215305621946820
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (NZnln)
Good lord, Hajji, that's not how suicide bombing works.
Did you even learn the song in elementary school?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (DDGz9)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024
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In the 40s, there was a war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024
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As Warai said above: Don't look for precedent.
*Be* the precedent.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2024 04:02 PM (QNSds)
You don't even need to have mass roundups. Every person who "comes to the attention" of law enforcement or other lawful agents of the State simply needs to have their citizenship status checked, and if there is no record of legal entry to the USA, off to a transit camp, until the camp contains a plane load, and then, Bye!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (DGoTI)
Not to mention it would be massively popular. The better question is why wouldn't Trump deport illegals? He gets rid of a huge election cheating problem, crime problem, inflation problem, jobs problem, wage problem and he gets to keep a campaign promise he's been making for years. And Trump like being popular.
Of course he will deport as many as he can.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (LkLld)
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.
Who is Seth Meyers and why should I care. Die, late night "TV".
This is insane: The Biden-Harris administration is reportedly telling a U.S. enemy what level of assault against a U.S. ally is acceptable.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (Rbu5d)
Aren't military commissions at the pleasure of the President?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (bufu1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (q7hip)
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Convict them, incarcerate them, THEN deport them after they serve their sentence.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Nova Local at October 01, 2024 04:45 PM (exHjb)
*Be* the precedent.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (J2vNu)
And to hell with stare decisis. Judges/Justices are, before anything else, politicians.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:45 PM (DDGz9)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)
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At the scale involved, we'll need prisons. Big ones. Perhaps a penal colony might be more appropriate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:45 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024
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Exactly. And if, as you say, it gets ugly south of the border? Not our problem. Don't try to cross into the U.S. and we'll ignore you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:45 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)
Screw that.
Prison is expensive.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:45 PM (DDGz9)
Don't look for precedent.
Be the precedent.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Be ...
(dare I say it?)
... FIRST!!!!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (xG4kz)
Rachel is revealing JD Vance to be an avatar, a Trojan horse, for the extremest of RW extremists. One example: He wants to attack universities. Says universities are fundamentally corrupt, committed to preposterous "dishonesties" in the world.
Three years ago, he gave a speech "The universities are the enemy."
The Rethugs want to drag the corpse across the finish line, and then 25th amendment him. Surprise! President Vance.
Yup. Vance follows that nut Yarvin who thinks America should be run by a dictator CEO. Total loon. And traitor. Wants to end democracy and government, privatize everything.
There's been talk of Yarvin and Vance all over social media for months. I'm glad Rachel finally brought him up. They don't want to go back to the Gilded Age. They want to go back to feudalism.
Well Good she's Getting this Out Again. Right Before the Debate which is More Important Than Ever. She even hinted at a few of these issues being brought up there!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (JCZqz)
Harry Enten says seniors, which is a shocker.
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Senior management but that's more a "pay for play" type deal.
Posted by: ... at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (lX8VI)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)
Wait. Let's think this through.
We convict, incarcerate and then use as chain gang labor to rebuild infrastructure.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (bufu1)
________________
Yup. IIRC, the Senate submits to the President a list of those they propose to be promoted, and he can accept or refuse their proposals.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (w3u3d)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (awTae)
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (bufu1)
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I believe zombie Douglas MacArthur found out that that was the case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (YqDXo)
Should be easy to track people down that way, right, Bob?
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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We should be getting video in the next couple of hours.
Time it to come in right after the debate.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (rwlGT)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:32 PM (fwDg9)
A good friend of mine was just hit and run. His car was creamed. The other party sped off, no one saw anything.
Posted by: ... at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (lX8VI)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (JCZqz)
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I find this to be a hard position to argue against.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
......
Manhattan Island comes to mind.
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (q7hip)
No way am I driving over a bridge built by a chain gang of face-tattoed mutants who never learned how to count past "fuck".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (DDGz9)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (JCZqz)
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Attacking universities is fascism?
Man, do these people not realize that fascism uses universities?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: ... at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (lX8VI)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 01, 2024 04:43 PM (rHxhM)
Is there a connection between the meat distribution company and the Boar's Head Inn in Charlottesville, VA? Doesn't look like from a very quick websearch, but still.
Would be a shame. Mrs. R and I spent our wedding night at that inn thirty-mumble years ago and I'd hate to think it's been sullied.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (LxER7)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (I1GXe)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (HnUIn)
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"You see, universities are centers of learning that put education and reason above all else. They are safe bastions of free thought in a world gone mad with nationalistic fascism from the hinterlands. There is nothing but good intentions, honesty, and research at universities, and there can never be any different."
-DU, 99.99993% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (I1GXe)
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Yes. But also jail *anyone* who has helped an illegal alien "navigate" the benefits system in the past five years.
Yeah, that will put a lot of state employees in prison, and tons of NGO drones. So be it. They're active conspirators.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (rwlGT)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2024
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Or as they are known, "game show prizes."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (J2vNu)
Are you kidding me? Every leftist judge in America will be clamoring not only to "second-guess" Trump but to stop him cold.
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (ZlOcj)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2024 04:48 PM (I1GXe)
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And *end* - completely, and permanently - ESL programs in public schools. Stop catering to illegals.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:50 PM (HnUIn)
What miserable lives these people have.
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 01, 2024 04:50 PM (NZnln)
We convict, incarcerate and then use as chain gang labor to rebuild infrastructure.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Bucket brigade to bail out the Carolinas.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 01, 2024 04:50 PM (6TWkg)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (rwlGT)
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If he was born here, as of now, he has citizenship. That is bad law (or bad interpretation of law), but so be it.
For parents with minor child anchor babies, give them a choice: take your kids and go home, or leave them in an orphanage and go home.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:50 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (HnUIn)
Can you go to jail for doing a job you were ordered by the government to do?
....
Fuck it, i'm gonna say "yes". Let's party.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (DDGz9)
One day, he was no longer there. Asked a waitress, and she said, "Oh, he got sent back home."
The govt found that guy, they can find the others.
I am concerned about the criminals, though.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (I1GXe)
To use the comparison to the 40s again a judge doing that then would find himself in front of a military tribunal and hoping to merely get a life at hard labor sentence.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Why imprison them, send them away to their home country.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (rwlGT)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024
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Owner's manuals for cars and TVs will shrink to half their current size -- no big chunk needed for Espanol!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (v0R5T)
I already did that bit. - Snake Plissken
Posted by: Archer at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (MRMGA)
Posted by: torabora at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (sM0Q+)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (JCZqz)
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I find this to be a hard position to argue against.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (HnUIn)
Every universities' endowment larger than 5 years operating expenses plus offset for planned building upgrades should be taxed at 30 percent.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (n7h9X)
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Vance has obviously been paying attention, and he's absolutely right.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
......
Manhattan Island comes to mind.
Posted by: wth
Martha's Vineyard? Nantucket Island? Alcatraz?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (6TWkg)
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 01, 2024 04:04 PM (FAbrK)
You and lil' Z could set up an act together.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (Rbu5d)
I'll see myself out.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)
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At the scale involved, we'll need prisons. Big ones. Perhaps a penal colony might be more appropriate.
I hear Rhode Island doesn't have much going on.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (uxCna)
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So it's difficult. Putting men on the moon was difficult. So do we now shrink from doing difficult things?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (YqDXo)
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Not difficult at all.
Start with the ones already in jail. That's half a million right there.
Then stop the free shit.
Hold a border roundup and turn them around.
Put a bounty on the rest. Payable upon capture and return.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2024 04:52 PM (n7h9X)
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False.
1 semester.
99%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Candidus at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (gxCby)
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1841215305621946820
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 01, 2024 04:42 PM (NZnln)
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Link doesn't work.
Posted by: Ciampino - 404 404 404 at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: leftists at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (FnneF)
I am not a lawyer, but no. There's criminal law and there's civil law, and that is the distinction that allows them to claim that entering our country illegally doesn't automatically make you a criminal. It's a civil offense, not a criminal offense. Or so I'm told, but IANAL.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (VGRuw)
Would be a shame. Mrs. R and I spent our wedding night at that inn thirty-mumble years ago and I'd hate to think it's been sullied.
I wondered the same thing. It does not.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (v0R5T)
________________
Arrange with the Supremes that any such obstruction will go straight to the Supreme Court, where they will knock that guy's pee-pee down.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (YqDXo)
Three years ago, he gave a speech "The universities are the enemy."
"The Universities are the enemy! Spill their blood! Shoot them in the belly!" just like George Patton!!!
He never said what they said he said.
Vance a "right wing extremist"? Really? All I know is he went up to East Palestine, Ohio after the big derailment disaster and he was really pissed at what he saw. I thought a lot more of him after that.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 01, 2024 04:54 PM (vcOmj)
Fuck em.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:54 PM (q7hip)
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (v0R5T)
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Snake Island? North Sentinel Island?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: ...
Well, yeah. At least until they turn 18 and can fend for themselves.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (vcOmj)
I think that would be an excellent Constitutional Amendment.
We should do that.
Posted by: torabora at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (sM0Q+)
What NGOs are getting how much for what services? How much are illegals getting in welfare? How many have gotten special services? Etc.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (hT16X)
Did they figure this one out for themselves? Or did they have a crack team of monkeys working around the clock on it?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (j0mva)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (TEC4P)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:46 PM (q7hip)
No way am I driving over a bridge built by a chain gang of face-tattoed mutants who never learned how to count past "fuck".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:47 PM (DDGz9)
This.
However, they could probably dig a ditch, a really really big one, just fine.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (FnneF)
One day, he was no longer there. Asked a waitress, and she said, "Oh, he got sent back home."
The govt found that guy, they can find the others.
I am concerned about the criminals, though.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (Rbu5d)
That's part of what makes this whole ridiculous system disgusting to everyone, isn't it?
Ganged up shitheads murdering and raping people are "sparks of divinity" and can't be touched, but a dude just minding his business and trying to get a foothold here, however he got here, gets Johnny Law on his ass and shipped back home.
And the dude just minding his own business probably thought he was in the clear because his fucking government told him he was in the clear because OUR FUCKING GOVERNMENT told his fucking government he was in the clear.
But oh, wait, what, you're not a thug out destroying civilization? You actually want to work your way up into the American Dream? Well fuck that guy, get him out of here.
Our immigration system is broken in every way it is possible for it to be broken.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (DDGz9)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara "
Ellis Island. Formerly known as "Gibbet Island".
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: torabora at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (sM0Q+)
What miserable lives these people have.
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 01, 2024 04:50 PM (NZnln)
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My former girlfriends were just relieved to be rid of me.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (ogTiX)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2024 04:55 PM (Hkcdp)]
I'm guessing Rachel Maddow.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 01, 2024 04:57 PM (PiwSw)
My proposed line for Trump's inauguration speech.
Posted by: Archer at October 01, 2024 04:57 PM (MRMGA)
I would assume Maddow. The same idiot who "exposed" Trump's tax return showing he had done nothing wrong and still believes Trump colluded with Russia.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:57 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Ace's liver at October 01, 2024 04:57 PM (B9Dv5)
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Sounds like rubbish. (Is there such a thing as a civil offense?) IANAL, but I thought civil matters concerned money.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:58 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (q7hip)
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Vertical stacking, just like modern hard drives.
Posted by: Ciampino - there will be ways at October 01, 2024 04:58 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 01, 2024 04:58 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (HnUIn)
Can you go to jail for doing a job you were ordered by the government to do?
....
Fuck it, i'm gonna say "yes". Let's party.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:51 PM (DDGz9)
Jail? You could even be hung by the neck until dead.
Posted by: Zombie Nazis at October 01, 2024 04:58 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2024 04:11 PM (fwDg9)
To quote a former SecState: at this point, what difference does it make?
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 04:57 PM (LkLld)
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I think she spent too long with her head between some other gal's legs.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 04:59 PM (YqDXo)
A yuuge # will self-deport, just like last time when Trump was POTUS, once they discover Trump really means to deport them. Personally, I would favor giving a cash incentive to self-deports as well.
Iran /Israel:
Long lines reported at gas stations in Iran. They know what's coming.
Posted by: mnw at October 01, 2024 04:59 PM (NLIak)
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 05:00 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2024 05:00 PM (j0mva)
She is exhibit one proving that being educated by our current education system does not equal intelligence.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2024 05:00 PM (LkLld)
Skin job. Tyrell Corp.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2024 05:00 PM (j0mva)
++++
:: applause ::
Bravo, Flounder.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 05:01 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara "
Ellis Island. Formerly known as "Gibbet Island".
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (vFG9F)
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I like my suggestions because there won't be any bleeding heart reporters there writing tear-jerker stories.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 05:01 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2024 05:02 PM (LxER7)
Posted by: mnw
I thought they all rode camels to work.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 01, 2024 05:02 PM (qoB0Q)
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No. No carrot; only the stick.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 05:02 PM (YqDXo)
I have come around to this view after recently re-watching the series.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2024 05:02 PM (LxER7)
Yeah, well, you probably prefer Ginger, too.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 01, 2024 05:03 PM (VGRuw)
Well, that's a distinction without a difference. Since our own government decided to cover this blatant illegality with a lot of phony paperwork, I would like to know just what the status of each of these people are.
There is a lot of talk that they are virtually indentured servants, working for a lower wage than American nationals would be paid, and held in virtual servitude to these jobs. Some of them were virtually kidnapped from Florida (where most Haitians reside in the US, because the wash up on the shore in their boats). Or some NGO flew them out of Haiti to Mexico, where the sashayed over the border, and got a "Pass" from Uncle Joe Biden's border patrol.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 01, 2024 05:03 PM (vcOmj)
‘ Hold them *personally* liable for any crimes committed by an illegal they brought in. ’
Yes, goddamn it. I want to punish these sanctimonious traitors that are sponsoring invasion under the color of charity.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 01, 2024 05:03 PM (jbnUc)
I thought they all rode camels to work.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 01, 2024 05:02 PM (qoB0Q)
They will after we get through with them.
--IDF
Posted by: Archer at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (MRMGA)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
I feel your pain, sister.
Posted by: Huma Abedin at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: wth at October 01, 2024 05:00 PM (v0R5T)
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You don't have to do anything illegal in Mexico. Just look like a wealthy gringo, and the Federales will shake you down.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: DOYLE at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 01, 2024 04:18 PM (tT6L1)
This is the "self-deport" Helena was talking about.
Still, I worry about the criminals.
Maybe "one strike, yer out" (permanently, here's the grave) would work.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (Rbu5d)
Three years ago, he gave a speech "The universities are the enemy."
==
I bet dollars to donuts that 99% of the DU cretins are in "education".
Posted by: runner at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 01, 2024 04:49 PM (HnUIn)
First the traitors, then the invaders.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2024 05:04 PM (j0mva)
Posted by: Manuel Labor
Rio Viejo
Rio Viejo...
Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 01, 2024 05:05 PM (gP18x)
Posted by: DOYLE at October 01, 2024 05:05 PM (Z8Yh2)
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That's part of what makes this whole ridiculous system disgusting to everyone, isn't it?
Ganged up shitheads murdering and raping people are "sparks of divinity" and can't be touched, but a dude just minding his business and trying to get a foothold here, however he got here, gets Johnny Law on his ass and shipped back home.
And the dude just minding his own business probably thought he was in the clear because his fucking government told him he was in the clear because OUR FUCKING GOVERNMENT told his fucking government he was in the clear.
But oh, wait, what, you're not a thug out destroying civilization? You actually want to work your way up into the American Dream? Well fuck that guy, get him out of here.
Our immigration system is broken in every way it is possible for it to be broken.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 01, 2024 04:56 PM (DDGz9)
For the guy "minding his business and trying to get a foothold here" may I suggest a citizenship test (written by Morons, not DIEtards), a requirement of sponsorship from a natural born citizen, maybe a review of what benefits were received up to the date of naturalization.
Posted by: Zombie Nazis at October 01, 2024 05:05 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024 05:05 PM (rwlGT)
Posted by: Hank Johnson at October 01, 2024 05:05 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 01, 2024 05:03 PM (jbnUc)
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It's the feminization of the culture. See also "compassion" for vagrants, thereby guaranteeing the problem will continue to fester.
Compassion
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 05:06 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 05:06 PM (FnneF)
Posted by: leftists at October 01, 2024 04:23 PM (FnneF)
I am not a lawyer, but no. There's criminal law and there's civil law, and that is the distinction that allows them to claim that entering our country illegally doesn't automatically make you a criminal. It's a civil offense, not a criminal offense. Or so I'm told, but IANAL.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 01, 2024 04:53 PM (VGRuw)
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I know that 8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens has criminal penalties -- but not familiar with the details.
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 01, 2024 05:06 PM (N0Kqc)
-12 year old Guatemalan, apparently
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 01, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
word
*Cackle*
Posted by: Kamela at October 01, 2024 05:06 PM (sM0Q+)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2024 05:06 PM (FnneF)
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That escalated quickly.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 01, 2024 05:07 PM (VdhcA)
Posted by: Manuel Labor
__________________
Get plastered that night and drive around roaring drunk, killing American motorists.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 05:07 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 01, 2024 05:08 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 01, 2024 05:09 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Braenyard
You been heah four howahs!
Posted by: John Pinette at October 01, 2024 05:09 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 01, 2024
***
If he doesn't speak English after all that time? Out.
If he does speak, read, and write passable English? Give him a choice. "Either start the process to become a citizen, now, today; or you go back home. Make your choice right now at this hearing, because you won't get a second chance. Well?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2024 05:10 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 01, 2024 04:38 PM (wFTTN)
Simple answer: offer to dismiss the charges against them if the voluntarily agree to board a plane for their country of origin.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2024 05:14 PM (/lvBc)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 01, 2024 04:34 PM (q7hip)
Someone here said she should stick to GILF porn.
Grandma-adjacent In-no-way I'd Like to F***
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 01, 2024 05:14 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Chici at October 01, 2024 05:33 PM (tb3NM)
It was 11 million in the 90s. The number today has to be close to 50 million.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 01, 2024 04:07 PM (jyRIG)
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My estimate has been 65 million ± 5 million.
Posted by: Ciampino - there will be ways & means at October 01, 2024 05:34 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: wferrin at October 01, 2024 05:48 PM (/JbUt)
Posted by: Osenna at October 01, 2024 06:56 PM (59HJP)
And now, I’m telling EVERYONE.
Posted by: Misanthropic Misanthrope at October 01, 2024 07:55 PM (Y2NGV)
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