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NYT Reports That NY Court of Appeals Is Very Skeptical of "Tish" James' Almost Half-Billion Dollar Penalty Against Trump For No Crime at All
The loans he was applying for were all paid back. No one lost any money. In fact, the banks profited. They made a loan and collected it back, plus interest. "Tish" James claimed that Trump's alleged overestimation of the value of his billion dollar New York properties was a fraudulent deception of... somebody?[N]ow that the appellate court has finally reviewed the case, the judges sound very skeptical about James' case as well as the absurd award in a case that involved literally no losses to anyone connected to Trump's businesses:More at the link. Meanwhile, deranged partisan Jack Smith has presented his own arguments to insane leftwing judge Chutkan in DC, claiming that basically the Supreme Court decision on immunity is moot because none of Trump's actions were taken in his capacity as President and even those that were should still be criminal. This is obviously completely contrary to the Supreme Court's ruling, which recognized a fairly expansive doctrine of immunity. The interesting thing is that Politico is "saying the quiet part out loud" -- they tweeted out this link with the headline, "Jack Smith has one last chance before Election Day to present his best evidence against Donald Trump." They keep claiming "this isn't about politics" but they give themselves away at every turn.The reporting from the New York Times make it sound like James got little sympathy from the judges. It's always dangerous to read too much into the Socratic questioning used by jurists in appellate hearings, but the pull quotes offered by the NYT sound pretty encouraging for Trump. The report describes Judge Peter Moulton as the most supportive of James' presentation, but even Moulton marveled at the size of Judge Arthur Engoron's award for a case without any losses or victims:
A New York appeals court expressed skepticism on Thursday about a civil judgment of more than $450 million that a trial judge had ordered former President Donald J. Trump to pay after finding that he had fraudulently inflated his wealth. At a hearing in Manhattan, members of a five-judge panel questioned both the size of the judgment and the validity of the case, which New York's attorney general brought against the former president and his family business two years ago.... Two other judges expressed skepticism over the award and the case:
Toward the end of the hearing, Justice Moulton asked how the attorney general's office could "tether the amount that was assessed" by Justice Engoron "to the harm that was caused here, where parties left these transactions happy about how things went down?"
Justice Friedman, who appeared the most skeptical of the case, asked Ms. Vale to identify any other case in which the attorney general's office had sued "to upset a private business transaction that was between equally sophisticated partners." Before she could respond, Dianne T. Renwick, the court's presiding justice, who generally seemed supportive of the case, added her own question. "And little to no impact on the public marketplace?" she asked.
Read "Jack Smith has one last chance before Election Day to present his best evidence against Donald Trump" on SmartNews: https://t.co/mlyM4T22Am #SmartNews
— Carol Diaz (@lorac32September 26, 2024
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Hey
Posted by: Ciampino - Bird's Custard for the win at September 27, 2024 01:01 PM (qfLjt)
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No standing! No victim either.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:02 PM (c0+ux)
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That whole judgement was a travesty of justice.
That whole judgement was a travesty of justice.
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 27, 2024 01:02 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: look whats not at September 27, 2024 01:02 PM (nakGR)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: DUmmies at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (FnneF)
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The funny part is when Governor Hochul had to reassure New York real estate magnates that this was directed solely at Trump, and no, they weren't all going to be prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
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Wouldn't "over"-valuing his properties mean he was essentially volunteering to pay more for DingDong's unrealized gains tax???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (FnneF)
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The Judiciary of New York (officially the New York State Unified Court System) is the judicial branch of the Government of New York, comprising all the courts of the State of New York (excluding extrajudicial administrative courts).
The Court of Appeals, sitting in Albany and consisting of seven judges, is the state's highest court. The Appellate Division of the New York State Supreme Court is the principal intermediate appellate court. The New York State Supreme Court is the trial court of general jurisdiction in civil cases statewide and in criminal cases in New York City.
The New York Supreme Court sits at the bottom and the Court of Appeals is the highest.
Leave it to New York to screw their heads on upside down
The Court of Appeals, sitting in Albany and consisting of seven judges, is the state's highest court. The Appellate Division of the New York State Supreme Court is the principal intermediate appellate court. The New York State Supreme Court is the trial court of general jurisdiction in civil cases statewide and in criminal cases in New York City.
The New York Supreme Court sits at the bottom and the Court of Appeals is the highest.
Leave it to New York to screw their heads on upside down
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (RHGPo)
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That cocksucker Jack Smith is trying his best to deliver an October surprise.
That cocksucker Jack Smith is trying his best to deliver an October surprise.
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (+oR7L)
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Wait , does this mean that the banks benefit from the proceeds of a crime? Going to have to charge them too.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (c0+ux)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (dGCAG)
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In a related subject, a sewage pipe pressure test failed in China. Poop everywhere.
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
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>>> 8 The funny part is when Governor Hochul had to reassure New York real estate magnates that this was directed solely at Trump, and no, they weren't all going to be prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
It's totes not a bill of attainder, because shut up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
It's totes not a bill of attainder, because shut up.
Posted by: Hochul, Priestess of Moloch at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (FnneF)
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9 Wouldn't "over"-valuing his properties mean he was essentially volunteering to pay more for DingDong's unrealized gains tax???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (FnneF)
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No, because it wasn't in taxable purposes that he made the claim but in outlining his assets to a bank to justify a loan.
Remember, Mar a Lago is only worth $18 million.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (FnneF)
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No, because it wasn't in taxable purposes that he made the claim but in outlining his assets to a bank to justify a loan.
Remember, Mar a Lago is only worth $18 million.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
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The Justice Department has charged three men with carrying out Iran’s alleged hack and leak attack against Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, describing a far-reaching campaign to steal data from current and former government officials and attempt to sow distrust in the presidential election.
The Justice Department has charged three men with carrying out Iran’s alleged hack and leak attack against Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, describing a far-reaching campaign to steal data from current and former government officials and attempt to sow distrust in the presidential election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (63Dwl)
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Again, who is the victim and what exactly were their damages? I thought you had to show harm to sue for damages? And prove losses or harm?
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
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It's already been said by real estate brokers all over the place that if Trump gets convicted of something in this, it will absolutely DESTROY the commercial real estate market.
So much so, Governor Bitchface McWhorechel came out and assured everyone that this would only be used this one time against Trump and everyone else is safe to continue doing the exact f*cking same thing without issue.
So much so, Governor Bitchface McWhorechel came out and assured everyone that this would only be used this one time against Trump and everyone else is safe to continue doing the exact f*cking same thing without issue.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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All this time I thought it was "Letittia"
Posted by: fd 49 at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (vFG9F)
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15 >>> 8 The funny part is when Governor Hochul had to reassure New York real estate magnates that this was directed solely at Trump, and no, they weren't all going to be prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
It's totes not a bill of attainder, because shut up.
Posted by: Hochul, Priestess of Moloch at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (FnneF)
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"I swear we won't use this against you. Also, we're not going to get rid of it. Just in case."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
It's totes not a bill of attainder, because shut up.
Posted by: Hochul, Priestess of Moloch at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (FnneF)
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"I swear we won't use this against you. Also, we're not going to get rid of it. Just in case."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
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>>> 14 In a related subject, a sewage pipe pressure test failed in China. Poop everywhere.
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
JOOS EVERYWHERE!!!
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
JOOS EVERYWHERE!!!
Posted by: Hezballess at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (FnneF)
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13,000 convicted murderers were released into the country by the Harris Biden administration. This is in addition to the over 4,5 00 sex offenders.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (LrWnf)
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Jack Smith is going to make public all his “evidence”. It will be lame and gay, but the media will treat it like Watergate.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (c0+ux)
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8 The funny part is when Governor Hochul had to reassure New York real estate magnates that this was directed solely at Trump, and no, they weren't all going to be prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.
... so it is a Bill of Attainder, explicitly declared unconstitutional
... so it is a Bill of Attainder, explicitly declared unconstitutional
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RHGPo)
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No one is above Our Democracy.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (LCr8f)
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That cocksucker Jack Smith is trying his best to deliver an October surprise.
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (+oR7L)
The only October surprise I expect from Jack Smith is when they find the bodies of teenage boys buried in the crawl space of his house.
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 27, 2024 01:04 PM (+oR7L)
The only October surprise I expect from Jack Smith is when they find the bodies of teenage boys buried in the crawl space of his house.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (dGCAG)
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Again, who is the victim and what exactly were their damages? I thought you had to show harm to sue for damages? And prove losses or harm?
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
You do. They can't. The judge is asshoe.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
You do. They can't. The judge is asshoe.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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THE NY COURTS ARE ALL IN TRUMP'S POCKET!
REEEEE!!!!!
Posted by: DUmmies
Well, the Media are all right leaning, that's why Trump gets away with all this!
REEEEE!!!!!
Posted by: DUmmies
Well, the Media are all right leaning, that's why Trump gets away with all this!
Posted by: Mark Cuban, Billion Dollar Brain at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (vcOmj)
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>>> 25 8 The funny part is when Governor Hochul had to reassure New York real estate magnates that this was directed solely at Trump, and no, they weren't all going to be prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.
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... so it is a Bill of Attainder, explicitly declared unconstitutional
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RHGPo)
Is NOT!!!
==
... so it is a Bill of Attainder, explicitly declared unconstitutional
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RHGPo)
Is NOT!!!
Posted by: Hochul, Priestess of Moloch at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (FnneF)
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Second verse, same as the first:
https://tinyurl.com/y2h9z95n
(graphic)
(Not Joyce, the one in the western Caribbean, which Joe Bastardi says is probably going to be the next major event in the Gulf).
https://tinyurl.com/y2h9z95n
(graphic)
(Not Joyce, the one in the western Caribbean, which Joe Bastardi says is probably going to be the next major event in the Gulf).
Posted by: one hour sober at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (Y1sOo)
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The funny part is when Governor Hochul had to reassure New York real estate magnates that this was directed solely at Trump, and no, they weren't all going to be prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
i'm still not sure how the appellate court didn't toss the case after being presented that statement...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2024 01:03 PM (uxCna)
i'm still not sure how the appellate court didn't toss the case after being presented that statement...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:08 PM (v6XNT)
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Jack Smith is dirty as hell. The choice to people like him is prosecute or be prosecuted.
Hell of a system.
Jack Smith is dirty as hell. The choice to people like him is prosecute or be prosecuted.
Hell of a system.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:08 PM (RKVpM)
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Leave it to New York to screw their heads on upside down
Posted by: SMOD
I think Maryland is similar. Gotta say, I like California's court structure. It's particularly easy in San Francisco County since we only have one civil court building for the entire county. (Though you can do most things online now.) There are 58 county courts ("Superior Court"), 6 appellate districts ("Court of Appeal"*), and one state Supreme Court (in the traditional sense of "supreme").
* Appeal is singular. Court of Appeals, plural, is the federal equivalent. But the name is not entirely accurate since you can also file petitions for various kinds of writs at the CoA, and hey, is SFG law-geeking? Yes he is.
Posted by: SMOD
I think Maryland is similar. Gotta say, I like California's court structure. It's particularly easy in San Francisco County since we only have one civil court building for the entire county. (Though you can do most things online now.) There are 58 county courts ("Superior Court"), 6 appellate districts ("Court of Appeal"*), and one state Supreme Court (in the traditional sense of "supreme").
* Appeal is singular. Court of Appeals, plural, is the federal equivalent. But the name is not entirely accurate since you can also file petitions for various kinds of writs at the CoA, and hey, is SFG law-geeking? Yes he is.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2024 01:08 PM (KAi1n)
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(Not Joyce, the one in the western Caribbean, which Joe Bastardi says is probably going to be the next major event in the Gulf).
Posted by: one hour sober at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (Y1sOo)
They said that one's just gonna be another Joyce which is why they named it Re-joyce.
Posted by: one hour sober at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (Y1sOo)
They said that one's just gonna be another Joyce which is why they named it Re-joyce.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (LCr8f)
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It's already been said by real estate brokers all over the place that if Trump gets convicted of something in this, it will absolutely DESTROY the commercial real estate market.
Isn't the commercial real estate market already in pretty sad shape?
It's already been said by real estate brokers all over the place that if Trump gets convicted of something in this, it will absolutely DESTROY the commercial real estate market.
Isn't the commercial real estate market already in pretty sad shape?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (63Dwl)
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I’m still baffled that a court would allow a claim , both Civil and Criminal to go forward when the plaintiff is unable to provide a credible date of loss or occurrence much less the year it allegedly happened.
Posted by: Sebation Melmoth at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (D6PGr)
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24 Jack Smith is going to make public all his “evidence”. It will be lame and gay, but the media will treat it like Watergate.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (c0+ux)
He’s about to discover the downside of building up a huge claim of some “crime” without ever having had any real evidence of such.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (c0+ux)
He’s about to discover the downside of building up a huge claim of some “crime” without ever having had any real evidence of such.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (wyMQY)
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Businessmen in NY are stupid if they are reassured by the Princess of Moloch.
The very fact the Princess of Moloch thought it necessary to come out with such a statement means even the Princess of Darkness realized NY stepped in it, big time.
The very fact the Princess of Moloch thought it necessary to come out with such a statement means even the Princess of Darkness realized NY stepped in it, big time.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (tT6L1)
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They not even mentioning that Jack Smith has no authority to charge anyone with anything on behalf of the govt. he was never approved by the Senate.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (c0+ux)
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Wouldn't it be funny if Trump got elected and then on Day 1 threw everyone who tried to fuck him over since 2015 in jail? Not funny, horrible. HORRIBLE
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (LCr8f)
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Lmao we live in a banana republic
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (eZwyX)
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So if my county says my home is worth $400,000 for tax assessment but if I put it on the market and the best offer is $300,000, has the county committed fraud?
So if my county says my home is worth $400,000 for tax assessment but if I put it on the market and the best offer is $300,000, has the county committed fraud?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (BkEzK)
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Great sock, there, Princess of Moloch.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (tT6L1)
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It would be such a shame, a travesty even, if a random flying piece of hard metal were to smash into Jack Smith's inner knee with great force.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>> 37 I’m still baffled that a court would allow a claim , both Civil and Criminal to go forward when the plaintiff is unable to provide a credible date of loss or occurrence much less the year it allegedly happened.
Posted by: Sebation Melmoth at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (D6PGr)
Orange Man is Bad, and he said PUSSY!!!
Posted by: Sebation Melmoth at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (D6PGr)
Orange Man is Bad, and he said PUSSY!!!
Posted by: Legal EXPERTS! at This... is XiNN at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (FnneF)
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OT, but minutes after Netanyahu dressed down the UN, the IDF made a gaping hole of Hezbollah's headquarters.
I'm afraid I've become an IDF fanboi.
I'm afraid I've become an IDF fanboi.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (paSBy)
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I read in Project 2025 that Trump will have to power to overvalue his assets by a billion percent, and that way he will collect loans from all the banks in the world so that minorities won’t be able to get any loans.
Posted by: Crazy at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (YsQhU)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (u82oZ)
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Again, who is the victim and what exactly were their damages? I thought you had to show harm to sue for damages? And prove losses or harm?
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
You do. They can't. The judge is asshoe.
Posted by: Sponge
They weren't suing for damages in the classic sense. It was for unlawful business practices (we have a similar statute here) and he was required to disgorge his ill-gotten gains. Disgorgement/penalties and damages, at least in CA, are not synonymous.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
You do. They can't. The judge is asshoe.
Posted by: Sponge
They weren't suing for damages in the classic sense. It was for unlawful business practices (we have a similar statute here) and he was required to disgorge his ill-gotten gains. Disgorgement/penalties and damages, at least in CA, are not synonymous.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (KAi1n)
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>>> 45 It would be such a shame, a travesty even, if a random flying piece of hard metal were to smash into Jack Smith's inner knee with great force.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)
You mean something like.... a tire iron?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)
You mean something like.... a tire iron?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (FnneF)
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Again, who is the victim and what exactly were their damages? I thought you had to show harm to sue for damages? And prove losses or harm?
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
The victims: NY'ers who pay high state taxes.
The harm: Not getting to write off all their state taxes on their federal taxes.
This is all about the SALT cap.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (3YdrS)
The victims: NY'ers who pay high state taxes.
The harm: Not getting to write off all their state taxes on their federal taxes.
This is all about the SALT cap.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (T7iTv)
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The Judge should be prosecuted for his own valuation of Trump’s property. It was low balled more than Kamala on Willie Brown’s dick.
Posted by: Sebation Melmoth at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (D6PGr)
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As usual it doesn't matter how this ends, the Democrats got their talking points and 24/7 "news" filler when they needed it, and then it will be onto the next.
All those thousands of hours where they didn't have to talk or write about anything uncomfortable, and got to stay on Pretend Offense.
See also: RUSSIA
All those thousands of hours where they didn't have to talk or write about anything uncomfortable, and got to stay on Pretend Offense.
See also: RUSSIA
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (LCr8f)
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Regarding ActBlue, AG Paxton in Texas said he was looking into it as well as the Virginia AG.
Should I be surprised there hasn’t been any info on it yet.
Should I be surprised there hasn’t been any info on it yet.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (hY7hm)
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So it's down to Bureaucratic Kleptocrats vs Real Estate Fascists.
Working people can't afford to live in Manhattan. Working people can't afford to eat healthy food in Manhattan. Illegal immigrants living in subsidized upscale hotels can afford to live in NYC. Revolutions have started with less provocation.
So it's down to Bureaucratic Kleptocrats vs Real Estate Fascists.
Working people can't afford to live in Manhattan. Working people can't afford to eat healthy food in Manhattan. Illegal immigrants living in subsidized upscale hotels can afford to live in NYC. Revolutions have started with less provocation.
Posted by: mrp at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (rj6Yv)
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>>> 42 Lmao we live in a banana republic
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (eZwyX)
Oh yeah? Then where the FCK are all my bananas?!?!?!
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (eZwyX)
Oh yeah? Then where the FCK are all my bananas?!?!?!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (FnneF)
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Posted by: Mark Cuban, Billion Dollar Brain at September 27, 2024 01:07 PM (vcOmj)
I find spitting on another human one of the more offensive and disrespectful things you can do to someone.
I would be hard pressed not to spit on Mark Cuban were I ever in vicinity.
I find spitting on another human one of the more offensive and disrespectful things you can do to someone.
I would be hard pressed not to spit on Mark Cuban were I ever in vicinity.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (Zz0t1)
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So Trump not only got a hooker to pay him...but may also get a nearly half-billion dollar refund from NYC?
The winning has lasted way more than 4 hours.
The winning has lasted way more than 4 hours.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (fQmeC)
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Lmao we live in a banana republic
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (eZwyX)
Disagree. Banana republics at least supply us with tasty bananas.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (eZwyX)
Disagree. Banana republics at least supply us with tasty bananas.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (dGCAG)
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41 Wouldn't it be funny if Trump got elected and then on Day 1 threw everyone who tried to fuck him over since 2015 in jail? Not funny, horrible. HORRIBLE
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (LCr8f)
I'm in favor of it, this will never stop until we make the other side live up to their own crooked set of rules.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (LCr8f)
I'm in favor of it, this will never stop until we make the other side live up to their own crooked set of rules.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (3YdrS)
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In a related subject, a sewage pipe pressure test failed in China. Poop everywhere.
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
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Probably the same team that pressure-tested their nuclear sub right before it sank.
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
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Probably the same team that pressure-tested their nuclear sub right before it sank.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (7fElN)
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blake
Answered your last question on the last thread.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (u82oZ)
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Thank you.
Which means the question will never be answered because the answer would make too many people sweat.
Answered your last question on the last thread.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (u82oZ)
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Thank you.
Which means the question will never be answered because the answer would make too many people sweat.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:14 PM (tT6L1)
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So if my county says my home is worth $400,000 for tax assessment but if I put it on the market and the best offer is $300,000, has the county committed fraud?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (BkEzK)
nope, but the irs would like to talk to you about how you're evading the 100k in unrealized gains since you sold the house for less than the govt deemed it's value to be...
-_-
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (BkEzK)
nope, but the irs would like to talk to you about how you're evading the 100k in unrealized gains since you sold the house for less than the govt deemed it's value to be...
-_-
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:14 PM (v6XNT)
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You mean something like.... a tire iron?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (FnneF)
Possibly, yes.
Where's a tire iron nado when you need one?
You mean something like.... a tire iron?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (FnneF)
Possibly, yes.
Where's a tire iron nado when you need one?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:14 PM (LCr8f)
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In a letter from the acting ice director to a Texas congressman, the director stated that 13,000 murderers and about 4,500 sex offenders were caught at the border and released into the United States because of Biden Harris border policies.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at September 27, 2024 01:14 PM (LrWnf)
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A nation of laws.
A miserable business park rather than a nation, and not so much laws but vibes.
A miserable business park rather than a nation, and not so much laws but vibes.
Posted by: Sulla was right at September 27, 2024 01:15 PM (/LEVb)
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It would be such a shame, a travesty even, if a random flying piece of hard metal were to smash into Jack Smith's inner knee with great force.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
You mean something like.... a tire iron?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Sometime-a you're the windshield
Sometime-a you're the bug
Sometime it all come together baby
Sometime-a you're a fool in love
Sometime-a you're the Louisville Slugger baby
Sometime-a you're the ball
Sometime it all come together baby
Sometime you're gonna lose it all
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
You mean something like.... a tire iron?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Sometime-a you're the windshield
Sometime-a you're the bug
Sometime it all come together baby
Sometime-a you're a fool in love
Sometime-a you're the Louisville Slugger baby
Sometime-a you're the ball
Sometime it all come together baby
Sometime you're gonna lose it all
Posted by: I am not Mark Knopfler at September 27, 2024 01:15 PM (vcOmj)
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I read in Project 2025 that Trump will have to power to overvalue his assets by a billion percent, and that way he will collect loans from all the banks in the world so that minorities won’t be able to get any loans.
Posted by: Crazy at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (YsQhU)
I saw that on Libertarian Zuck's platform, so it must be true.
Posted by: Crazy at September 27, 2024 01:11 PM (YsQhU)
I saw that on Libertarian Zuck's platform, so it must be true.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2024 01:15 PM (dGCAG)
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One wonders whether the idiot Chutkan's defiance of SCOTUS will actually result in any response. Some of the districts and circuits have been ignoring all the 2A rulings for years now (3 major ones).
The legal cult of course will never change their bizarre fact-free worship of their love object (like LE with the FBI, DOJ, etc), but will the few adults actually attempt to start restoring some credibility? NY appeals court is doing as I expected (basically "WTF?"), so there is still some positive inertia, in some places. But with a supine Congress and mostly clueless electorate, the return of the federal judiciary to its proper minor role (basically glorified clerks) seems unlikely.
The legal cult of course will never change their bizarre fact-free worship of their love object (like LE with the FBI, DOJ, etc), but will the few adults actually attempt to start restoring some credibility? NY appeals court is doing as I expected (basically "WTF?"), so there is still some positive inertia, in some places. But with a supine Congress and mostly clueless electorate, the return of the federal judiciary to its proper minor role (basically glorified clerks) seems unlikely.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2024 01:15 PM (GcNJ2)
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They weren't suing for damages in the classic sense. It was for unlawful business practices (we have a similar statute here) and he was required to disgorge his ill-gotten gains. Disgorgement/penalties and damages, at least in CA, are not synonymous.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2024 01:11
Thanks, I never understood how they were able to do this. It still is bullshit.
They weren't suing for damages in the classic sense. It was for unlawful business practices (we have a similar statute here) and he was required to disgorge his ill-gotten gains. Disgorgement/penalties and damages, at least in CA, are not synonymous.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2024 01:11
Thanks, I never understood how they were able to do this. It still is bullshit.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2024 01:15 PM (3YdrS)
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A lot of states (if not all) have these very broad "civil fraud" statutes on the books that give a light-years worth of leeway to state AGs to bring actions. Many actually do not require a showing of actual concrete harm.
These statutes were all basically dormant -- as they should be -- unless a true fraud was committed that hurt a lot of people. That was until these leftwing scum-drinking AGs woke up that they could target their political enemies with these actions.
Trump is only the most high profile of their targets. These shitstained cocksuckers have gone after oil and gas companies, gun companies, and others they don't like.
These statutes were all basically dormant -- as they should be -- unless a true fraud was committed that hurt a lot of people. That was until these leftwing scum-drinking AGs woke up that they could target their political enemies with these actions.
Trump is only the most high profile of their targets. These shitstained cocksuckers have gone after oil and gas companies, gun companies, and others they don't like.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 27, 2024 01:15 PM (iFTx/)
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In a letter from the acting ice director to a Texas congressman, the director stated that 13,000 murderers and about 4,500 sex offenders were caught at the border and released into the United States because of Biden Harris border policies.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
The border is safe and effective
Just like the Covid 19 vaccine!
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
The border is safe and effective
Just like the Covid 19 vaccine!
Posted by: Kamala Harris, Veep!!! and a POC at September 27, 2024 01:16 PM (vcOmj)
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>>> 36
It's already been said by real estate brokers all over the place that if Trump gets convicted of something in this, it will absolutely DESTROY the commercial real estate market.
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Isn't the commercial real estate market already in pretty sad shape?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (63Dwl)
False! The commercial real estate market has recovered from the destruction of OrangeManBad and is, like the rest of the US economy, now the best in the world! Thanks, Joe and Coconut!!!
It's already been said by real estate brokers all over the place that if Trump gets convicted of something in this, it will absolutely DESTROY the commercial real estate market.
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Isn't the commercial real estate market already in pretty sad shape?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (63Dwl)
False! The commercial real estate market has recovered from the destruction of OrangeManBad and is, like the rest of the US economy, now the best in the world! Thanks, Joe and Coconut!!!
Posted by: Economic EXPERTS! at This... is XiNN at September 27, 2024 01:16 PM (FnneF)
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All these sobs need to be rounded up on Trump's first day in office. Grab some US Marshals and bash down their doors at 3am. If they resist arrest, well, the butt stroke from a rifle will heal. Eventually.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 27, 2024 01:16 PM (0eaVi)
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The victims: NY'ers who pay high state taxes.
The harm: Not getting to write off all their state taxes on their federal taxes.
This is all about the SALT cap.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (T7iTv)
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Yeah, high tax blue states were screaming about that. They were no longer able to hide how much their state taxes were.
The harm: Not getting to write off all their state taxes on their federal taxes.
This is all about the SALT cap.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (T7iTv)
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Yeah, high tax blue states were screaming about that. They were no longer able to hide how much their state taxes were.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:16 PM (tT6L1)
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Jack Smith is going to make public all his “evidence”. It will be lame and gay, but the media will treat it like Watergate.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (c0+ux)
(Then) President Trump, having failed to ensure that officers sworn to obey his orders would obey his orders, delayed asking his supporters to leave the Capitol for several minutes after Federal agents (unknown to him) had arranged to have several dozen of them escorted through the building by armed police. Obviously this is an insurrection against Our Precious Democracy!
-- Jack Smith (probably)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (c0+ux)
(Then) President Trump, having failed to ensure that officers sworn to obey his orders would obey his orders, delayed asking his supporters to leave the Capitol for several minutes after Federal agents (unknown to him) had arranged to have several dozen of them escorted through the building by armed police. Obviously this is an insurrection against Our Precious Democracy!
-- Jack Smith (probably)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (T7iTv)
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14 In a related subject, a sewage pipe pressure test failed in China. Poop everywhere.
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
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Not a problem. They'll just bus in some peasants from the outer provinces and tell them it's a food give-away. They just have to dig around to find the corn kernels.
Enjoy your lunch, everyone!!!!
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
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Not a problem. They'll just bus in some peasants from the outer provinces and tell them it's a food give-away. They just have to dig around to find the corn kernels.
Enjoy your lunch, everyone!!!!
Posted by: Orson at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (dIske)
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Can we ask how the FED values its assets?
Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (z/ifB)
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I would be hard pressed not to spit on Mark Cuban were I ever in vicinity.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (Zz0t1)
Proof you can be a literal ignoramus and still become a billionaire. Before Cuban I would have argued that it’s not possible.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:13 PM (Zz0t1)
Proof you can be a literal ignoramus and still become a billionaire. Before Cuban I would have argued that it’s not possible.
Posted by: Sebation Melmoth at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (D6PGr)
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My favorite was the NY attorney trying to explain how this so-called "fraud" harmed the public.
She was all something like how the under-valuations puts misrepresentations "out there." And once it's "out there" it absolutely harms the public.
See, what it was, Trump sent Lies into that magical ether that floats all around us, which is connected to all Beings, who were thus despoiled by the dark energy of Trump Lies.
No, I'm not exaggerating--it was as stupid as I've relayed.
And that is their Big Brain legal theory why this fraud statute should be massively expanded to include a private transaction w/ under-valuations of collateral between highly sophisticated parties, each double and triple-checking the files, who all agreed not only were they paid in full nor harmed, but that they would all do the exact same deal with the exact same terms no matter what valuation Trump claimed:
The ether hath been tainted by tRump Lies!
She was all something like how the under-valuations puts misrepresentations "out there." And once it's "out there" it absolutely harms the public.
See, what it was, Trump sent Lies into that magical ether that floats all around us, which is connected to all Beings, who were thus despoiled by the dark energy of Trump Lies.
No, I'm not exaggerating--it was as stupid as I've relayed.
And that is their Big Brain legal theory why this fraud statute should be massively expanded to include a private transaction w/ under-valuations of collateral between highly sophisticated parties, each double and triple-checking the files, who all agreed not only were they paid in full nor harmed, but that they would all do the exact same deal with the exact same terms no matter what valuation Trump claimed:
The ether hath been tainted by tRump Lies!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (/lzai)
83
Tried to find out about the recent hurricane only to discover that the weather media is just as useless as the rest of the media.
I have been reminded that the media would lose 99% of its audience if it ever broadcast any useful information.
Who is John Galt ?
I have been reminded that the media would lose 99% of its audience if it ever broadcast any useful information.
Who is John Galt ?
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (9X60i)
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"I find spitting on another human one of the more offensive and disrespectful things you can do to someone."
I can dig it.
"I find spitting on another human one of the more offensive and disrespectful things you can do to someone."
I can dig it.
Posted by: 80's Baron Harkonnen at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (Z8Yh2)
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Wouldn't it be funny if Trump got elected and then on Day 1 threw everyone who tried to fuck him over since 2015 in jail? Not funny, horrible. HORRIBLE
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (LCr8f)
A recent Liberal Hivemind video showed a clip where a media person is filing their paperwork for a foreign passport under an assumed name because if Trump is actually elected, he "knows he's done for."
These f*cking people are mentally deranged.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:10 PM (LCr8f)
A recent Liberal Hivemind video showed a clip where a media person is filing their paperwork for a foreign passport under an assumed name because if Trump is actually elected, he "knows he's done for."
These f*cking people are mentally deranged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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... so it is a Bill of Attainder, explicitly declared unconstitutional
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RHGPo)
What if we just called it a tax? -- CJ Roberts
Posted by: SMOD at September 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RHGPo)
What if we just called it a tax? -- CJ Roberts
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (T7iTv)
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He’s about to discover the downside of building up a huge claim of some “crime” without ever having had any real evidence of such.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (wyMQY)
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I wonder if in any of his submissions to the Court, he submitted the Congressional testimony that Trump wanted as many as 10,000 troops to protect the Capitol.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (wyMQY)
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I wonder if in any of his submissions to the Court, he submitted the Congressional testimony that Trump wanted as many as 10,000 troops to protect the Capitol.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 27, 2024 01:18 PM (hY7hm)
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Breaking News:
Israel bombed hezbollah headquarters in Beirut. Nasrallah supposedly present and is wounded or dead along with Iranian general. Israel gearing up for major retaliation from Iran.
Israel bombed hezbollah headquarters in Beirut. Nasrallah supposedly present and is wounded or dead along with Iranian general. Israel gearing up for major retaliation from Iran.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2024 01:18 PM (t/2Uw)
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Apparently Maggie Smith has joined the Choir Invisible.
She was the female Michael Caine.
Loved her in Gosford Park and Best, Most Exotic Marigold Hotel.
She was the female Michael Caine.
Loved her in Gosford Park and Best, Most Exotic Marigold Hotel.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:18 PM (XV/Pl)
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Isn't the commercial real estate market already in pretty sad shape?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (63Dwl)'
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The former rent controlled segment now receiving Biden Bucks to kick out their former tenants and house illegal aliens is enjoying a nice windfall, but other that that...
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2024 01:09 PM (63Dwl)'
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The former rent controlled segment now receiving Biden Bucks to kick out their former tenants and house illegal aliens is enjoying a nice windfall, but other that that...
Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2024 01:19 PM (z/ifB)
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89 Apparently Maggie Smith has joined the Choir Invisible.
She was the female Michael Caine.
Loved her in Gosford Park and Best, Most Exotic Marigold Hotel.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
And she was 89!
She was the female Michael Caine.
Loved her in Gosford Park and Best, Most Exotic Marigold Hotel.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
And she was 89!
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:19 PM (MGB5H)
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Are any of the lawfare warriors European American?
Posted by: Sulla was right at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (/LEVb)
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Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2024 01:08 PM (KAi1n)
Given the state of the legal systems in this country, they should be called strike 1, strike 2, and strike 3.
Given the state of the legal systems in this country, they should be called strike 1, strike 2, and strike 3.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (T7iTv)
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89 Apparently Maggie Smith has joined the Choir Invisible.
She was the female Michael Caine.
Loved her in Gosford Park and Best, Most Exotic Marigold Hotel.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:18 PM (XV/Pl)
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Eh.
She could never have gotten Carter.
She was the female Michael Caine.
Loved her in Gosford Park and Best, Most Exotic Marigold Hotel.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:18 PM (XV/Pl)
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Eh.
She could never have gotten Carter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Judge Chutkan sets timetable for Trump to argue against release of the material submitted by Smith yesterday. We could see the redacted version by mid-October. May see some ancillary filings sooner!
The filing includes unredacted quotes and info form sensitive sources like grand jury transcripts/interviews, but will redact footnotes identifying sources.
Getting it released 11 days before election day could be poetic justice.
I want every word of the Ivanka, pence, and other inner circle people released. Texts, emails, transcripts of interviews, testimony to Grand jury...every treacherous word. Then watch the flipping start in Georgia.
Hopefully the Court will release enough damning information that middle of the road Republicans will question if it's wise to vote for him again.
You know he'll scream 'immunity' all the way to SCrOTUS. If the felonious 6 intervene again there must be consequences.
Where are the famous DC leakers when we need them? Remember the Pentagon Papers? Damn , but I wish some low-ranking secretary would slip to a reporter a thumb drive with 1TB of evidence!!
The filing includes unredacted quotes and info form sensitive sources like grand jury transcripts/interviews, but will redact footnotes identifying sources.
Getting it released 11 days before election day could be poetic justice.
I want every word of the Ivanka, pence, and other inner circle people released. Texts, emails, transcripts of interviews, testimony to Grand jury...every treacherous word. Then watch the flipping start in Georgia.
Hopefully the Court will release enough damning information that middle of the road Republicans will question if it's wise to vote for him again.
You know he'll scream 'immunity' all the way to SCrOTUS. If the felonious 6 intervene again there must be consequences.
Where are the famous DC leakers when we need them? Remember the Pentagon Papers? Damn , but I wish some low-ranking secretary would slip to a reporter a thumb drive with 1TB of evidence!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (U06Eh)
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Grave concern in Hezbollah that leader Hassan Nasrallah was killed along with Iranian general, says Mideast commentator Ehud Yaari; senior Hezbollah member Hashem Safieddine, a potential Nasrallah successor, almost certainly killed. via @N12News
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Israel planned strike on Nasrallah for a while & monitored his location, @IsraelHayomHeb reports; IDF used 1-ton bunker busters to
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Israel Radar
@IsraelRadar_com
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Israel planned strike on Nasrallah for a while & monitored his location, @IsraelHayomHeb reports; IDF used 1-ton bunker busters to
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Ace, one slight correction. The appeal was heard in the NY Appellate Division, 1st Department. That's the first appeal level in NYS. I watched part and they were more dubious of the lack of a victim than the violation of the Statute of Limitations. Whichever side loses will appeal to the NYS Court of Appeals.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (BVwxa)
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>>"Tish" James claimed that Trump's alleged overestimation of the value of his billion dollar New York properties was a fraudulent deception of... somebody?
I really dislike even having to discuss this nonsense as if it has any merit, it doesn't and never did.
None of the prosecutions of Trump have any merit, none of them.
I wish the SCOTUS would have some balls, collect up all of the cases and just simply dispense with them.
Instead we have to pretend like we're still part of a rules based system.
I really dislike even having to discuss this nonsense as if it has any merit, it doesn't and never did.
None of the prosecutions of Trump have any merit, none of them.
I wish the SCOTUS would have some balls, collect up all of the cases and just simply dispense with them.
Instead we have to pretend like we're still part of a rules based system.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (XV/Pl)
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95 Hopefully the Court will release enough damning information that middle of the road Republicans will question if it's wise to vote for him again.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (U06Eh)
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That's it. Middle of the road Republicans need to FINALLY be told that Trump is icky.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (U06Eh)
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That's it. Middle of the road Republicans need to FINALLY be told that Trump is icky.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (GBKbO)
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You know he'll scream 'immunity' all the way to SCrOTUS. If the felonious 6 intervene again there must be consequences.
Where are the famous DC leakers when we need them? Remember the Pentagon Papers? Damn , but I wish some low-ranking secretary would slip to a reporter a thumb drive with 1TB of evidence!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (U06Eh)
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The alternate reality is strong with these people.
Where are the famous DC leakers when we need them? Remember the Pentagon Papers? Damn , but I wish some low-ranking secretary would slip to a reporter a thumb drive with 1TB of evidence!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (U06Eh)
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The alternate reality is strong with these people.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (tT6L1)
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I'm going to remember these billion dollar verdicts, the $1000 fines for masks and propose penalties of three pounds of flesh for all these bastards when the time FINALLY arrives.
Ask about our guillotine or flaming sword quick pay options!
Ask about our guillotine or flaming sword quick pay options!
Posted by: Stateless at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (jvJvP)
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Remember, the news media attacked a high school student for "menacingly standing there, smiling" as some crazy "native American" guy pounded a drum in his face.
They have no morals. They have no shame. They deny the existence of their soul.
They have no morals. They have no shame. They deny the existence of their soul.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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Israel bombed hezbollah headquarters in Beirut. Nasrallah supposedly present and is wounded or dead along with Iranian general. Israel gearing up for major retaliation from Iran.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
I wonder how careful Iran has to be with giving its own internal enemies a real opportunity to do things.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
I wonder how careful Iran has to be with giving its own internal enemies a real opportunity to do things.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2024 01:22 PM (KAi1n)
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@IsraelHayomHeb reports; IDF used 1-ton bunker busters to
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (t/2Uw)
Ohhhh....that means it left a BIG hole.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2024 01:20 PM (t/2Uw)
Ohhhh....that means it left a BIG hole.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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Ace, your title says that the "NY Court of Appeals" is hearing the case. It's the Appellate Division that's hearing the case. The NY Court of Appeals is the state's highest court and one level above the Appellate Division. The case could eventually get to the Court of Appeals.
Oh and I know the justices hearing the case. I'm not holding my breath. They are mostly reliable Party Men. It may be that the stench of this whole thing is too much even for them. But this is most definitely not a Trump-friendly bunch, and they know they will face backlash from the Party if they rule the wrong way.
Oh and I know the justices hearing the case. I'm not holding my breath. They are mostly reliable Party Men. It may be that the stench of this whole thing is too much even for them. But this is most definitely not a Trump-friendly bunch, and they know they will face backlash from the Party if they rule the wrong way.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 27, 2024 01:22 PM (iFTx/)
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So much so, Governor Bitchface McWhorechel came out and assured everyone that this would only be used this one time against Trump and everyone else is safe to continue doing the exact f*cking same thing without issue.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)
Do you think ousting Mayor Adams will have a negative effect on NYC real estate and businesses too?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)
Do you think ousting Mayor Adams will have a negative effect on NYC real estate and businesses too?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (D7oie)
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The alternate reality is strong with these people.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (tT6L1)
I can't help but believe it's one big 4chan op playing a joke on us all.
The alternate reality is strong with these people.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (tT6L1)
I can't help but believe it's one big 4chan op playing a joke on us all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)
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Posted by: mrp at September 27, 2024 01:12 PM (rj6Yv)
RFK said it pretty well, at the top you have a comfy socialism for the wealthy and for everyone else you have this hyper bloodthirsty capitalism.
If he would have said crony capitalism it would have been far more accurate
RFK said it pretty well, at the top you have a comfy socialism for the wealthy and for everyone else you have this hyper bloodthirsty capitalism.
If he would have said crony capitalism it would have been far more accurate
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (eZwyX)
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They have no morals. They have no shame. They deny the existence of their soul.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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These people also believe they're going to be able to continue on with their actions with impunity. They really don't understand pushing people to the point they have nothing left to lose.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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These people also believe they're going to be able to continue on with their actions with impunity. They really don't understand pushing people to the point they have nothing left to lose.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (tT6L1)
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82 My favorite was the NY attorney trying to explain how this so-called "fraud" harmed the public.
She was all something like how the under-valuations puts misrepresentations "out there." And once it's "out there" it absolutely harms the public.
See, what it was, Trump sent Lies into that magical ether that floats all around us, which is connected to all Beings, who were thus despoiled by the dark energy of Trump Lies.
No, I'm not exaggerating--it was as stupid as I've relayed.
And that is their Big Brain legal theory why this fraud statute should be massively expanded to include a private transaction w/ under-valuations of collateral between highly sophisticated parties, each double and triple-checking the files, who all agreed not only were they paid in full nor harmed, but that they would all do the exact same deal with the exact same terms no matter what valuation Trump claimed:
The ether hath been tainted by tRump Lies!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (/lzai)
Not sure it’s a valid legal theory, but wouldn’t a better approach have been to ALSO sue deutsche bank and say both entities conspired to increase the value of Trump’s properties?
She was all something like how the under-valuations puts misrepresentations "out there." And once it's "out there" it absolutely harms the public.
See, what it was, Trump sent Lies into that magical ether that floats all around us, which is connected to all Beings, who were thus despoiled by the dark energy of Trump Lies.
No, I'm not exaggerating--it was as stupid as I've relayed.
And that is their Big Brain legal theory why this fraud statute should be massively expanded to include a private transaction w/ under-valuations of collateral between highly sophisticated parties, each double and triple-checking the files, who all agreed not only were they paid in full nor harmed, but that they would all do the exact same deal with the exact same terms no matter what valuation Trump claimed:
The ether hath been tainted by tRump Lies!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:17 PM (/lzai)
Not sure it’s a valid legal theory, but wouldn’t a better approach have been to ALSO sue deutsche bank and say both entities conspired to increase the value of Trump’s properties?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (kqvk9)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (RKVpM)
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A good list was building in the previous thread of people worth following on X.
Don, Don Jr, Alex Jones, amuse, clown world, Jack Prosebic (sp?), Elon (of course), Mike at Rasmussen (polls), Robby Starbuck (DEI battles), Laura Loomer, James Woods, Leading Report, Charlie Kirk, End Wokeness, Benny Johnson, Joe Rogan, Jack Posobiec, Ed Dowd
I'll add:
BehizyTweets
Catturd2
MrAndyGno
Libs of TikTok
Roseanne Barr
Melonie Mac
Don, Don Jr, Alex Jones, amuse, clown world, Jack Prosebic (sp?), Elon (of course), Mike at Rasmussen (polls), Robby Starbuck (DEI battles), Laura Loomer, James Woods, Leading Report, Charlie Kirk, End Wokeness, Benny Johnson, Joe Rogan, Jack Posobiec, Ed Dowd
I'll add:
BehizyTweets
Catturd2
MrAndyGno
Libs of TikTok
Roseanne Barr
Melonie Mac
Posted by: LizLem at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (sAa5Q)
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Patriots, a national equivalent to state ballot initiatives (ala Convention of States) is needed in lieu of constitutional amendments.
1. Congress (and family) must have all stocks held in blind trusts.
2. 20 yr ban on lobbying after “firing.”
3. Congressional/Governor salaries based on reducing the debt.
4. Hand counting of votes.
5. Holiday for voting & voter ID.
6. Very minimal mail-in ballots.
7. Deport illegals convicted of sexu@l offenses.
Let’s bypass our compromised and traitorous “elected” officials.
Got any other ideas to prevent the foxes from guarding the henhouses?
Let’s do this!!!
Unfortunately, Uniparty/Blob/Deep State/Pravda Media grifters will argue that “direct democracy is corrosive to long term liberty.”
Sorry. It’s only corrosive to THEIR long term financial, ego, and s3x trade interests. The rate we’re going now we patriots won’t have ANY liberty for very long.
If only men were angels we wouldn’t need these “corrosive measures!!
/sarc
1. Congress (and family) must have all stocks held in blind trusts.
2. 20 yr ban on lobbying after “firing.”
3. Congressional/Governor salaries based on reducing the debt.
4. Hand counting of votes.
5. Holiday for voting & voter ID.
6. Very minimal mail-in ballots.
7. Deport illegals convicted of sexu@l offenses.
Let’s bypass our compromised and traitorous “elected” officials.
Got any other ideas to prevent the foxes from guarding the henhouses?
Let’s do this!!!
Unfortunately, Uniparty/Blob/Deep State/Pravda Media grifters will argue that “direct democracy is corrosive to long term liberty.”
Sorry. It’s only corrosive to THEIR long term financial, ego, and s3x trade interests. The rate we’re going now we patriots won’t have ANY liberty for very long.
If only men were angels we wouldn’t need these “corrosive measures!!
/sarc
Posted by: Pete Cook at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (/O7dq)
114
Do you think ousting Mayor Adams will have a negative effect on NYC real estate and businesses too?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (D7oie)
Yas gots to git them uppity negroes ta stop talkin the bads about the Biden Admin, you sees......Dey needs back on dat plantation, all hurried like. Ya hear?
Do you think ousting Mayor Adams will have a negative effect on NYC real estate and businesses too?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (D7oie)
Yas gots to git them uppity negroes ta stop talkin the bads about the Biden Admin, you sees......Dey needs back on dat plantation, all hurried like. Ya hear?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)
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I can't help but believe it's one big 4chan op playing a joke on us all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)
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I think there is a goodly portion of DU which is op, but I also think there is a large cohort of crazy, too.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)
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I think there is a goodly portion of DU which is op, but I also think there is a large cohort of crazy, too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (eZwyX)
117
@94
>>She could never have gotten Carter.
Perhaps not, but she was a looker back in the day, old girl was a real goer.
>>She could never have gotten Carter.
Perhaps not, but she was a looker back in the day, old girl was a real goer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (XV/Pl)
118
117 @94
>>She could never have gotten Carter.
Perhaps not, but she was a looker back in the day, old girl was a real goer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (XV/Pl)
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Alfie woulda, if you know what I mean.
>>She could never have gotten Carter.
Perhaps not, but she was a looker back in the day, old girl was a real goer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (XV/Pl)
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Alfie woulda, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
119
LOL now the cucks on the Supreme Court are all felons too. Kavanaugh is too super conservative that's his crime.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (LCr8f)
120
Speaking of getting Trump. I thought this was pretty chilling. They haven't ruled out extermination if lawfare doesn't work.
https://tinyurl.com/yryp8b8z
https://tinyurl.com/yryp8b8z
Posted by: Just Lily at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (WoGOu)
121
Do you think ousting Mayor Adams will have a negative effect on NYC real estate and businesses too?
Posted by: Kindltot
Adams needs to endorse Trump and tell the 9m NYCers to vote for him because he will get rid of the illegals.
Posted by: Kindltot
Adams needs to endorse Trump and tell the 9m NYCers to vote for him because he will get rid of the illegals.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (MGB5H)
122
Florida Man or Men for Harris voter?
https://is.gd/iwIbq2
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (RKVpM)
Good thing he just stood there keeping the camera rolling instead of, you know, rendering aid or calling the police or maintaining visual on the suspect.......
I hate what they've done to society now......
https://is.gd/iwIbq2
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (RKVpM)
Good thing he just stood there keeping the camera rolling instead of, you know, rendering aid or calling the police or maintaining visual on the suspect.......
I hate what they've done to society now......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)
123
You know what's not fraudulent? Picking a "candidate" out of pure thin air and then lying and cheating her into office.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:27 PM (LCr8f)
124
Remember, Mar a Lago is only worth $18 million.
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Recall, this was a verdict--by the judge alone--on summary judgement.
Meaning, he found the evidence of fault was so great that no reasonable person could differ; that there was not a shred of evidence that Trump didn't violate the statute.
And that same judge, he excluded all expert testimony by Trump's lawyers.
Specifically, that Mar a Lago generates well over $50 million a year in revenue.
The appellate judges were highly skeptical of the exclusion as well.
To put it another way:
Let's say a house is worth $250k.
And you're renting it out for $750k a year.
But, if you tried to borrow against it and said it was worth $500k, NY would criminally fine you $1 million for fraud.
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Recall, this was a verdict--by the judge alone--on summary judgement.
Meaning, he found the evidence of fault was so great that no reasonable person could differ; that there was not a shred of evidence that Trump didn't violate the statute.
And that same judge, he excluded all expert testimony by Trump's lawyers.
Specifically, that Mar a Lago generates well over $50 million a year in revenue.
The appellate judges were highly skeptical of the exclusion as well.
To put it another way:
Let's say a house is worth $250k.
And you're renting it out for $750k a year.
But, if you tried to borrow against it and said it was worth $500k, NY would criminally fine you $1 million for fraud.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:27 PM (/lzai)
125
@118
>>Alfie woulda, if you know what I mean.
And now you are forcing me to play a cocktail piano version of Alfie.
Darn you.
>>Alfie woulda, if you know what I mean.
And now you are forcing me to play a cocktail piano version of Alfie.
Darn you.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:28 PM (XV/Pl)
126
You know what's not fraudulent? Picking a "candidate" out of pure thin air and then lying and cheating her into office.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:27 PM (LCr8f)
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Saving Democracy, one selected candidate at a time!
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:27 PM (LCr8f)
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Saving Democracy, one selected candidate at a time!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:28 PM (tT6L1)
127
Adams needs to endorse Trump and tell the 9m NYCers to vote for him because he will get rid of the illegals.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (MGB5H)
That would force them to put him under the prison.
He's not willing to make that sacrifice. He's dirty, he knows it, and isn't going to do anything to change it.
Adams needs to endorse Trump and tell the 9m NYCers to vote for him because he will get rid of the illegals.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (MGB5H)
That would force them to put him under the prison.
He's not willing to make that sacrifice. He's dirty, he knows it, and isn't going to do anything to change it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 27, 2024 01:28 PM (Aoykm)
129
I'm gonna laugh when Trump wins the election, appoints Jack Smith to a Federal court position, and reorganizes the court system two weeks after his confirmation. "Sorry Jack, we're consolidating your position in a district realignment and Judge Smith has seniority. Learn to code."
I'm gonna laugh when Trump wins the election, appoints Jack Smith to a Federal court position, and reorganizes the court system two weeks after his confirmation. "Sorry Jack, we're consolidating your position in a district realignment and Judge Smith has seniority. Learn to code."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (y9nCu)
130
123 You know what's not fraudulent? Picking a "candidate" out of pure thin air and then lying and cheating her into office.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:27 PM (LCr8f)
To be fair... that's all that politics is.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:27 PM (LCr8f)
To be fair... that's all that politics is.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (VoAdT)
131
LOL now the cucks on the Supreme Court are all felons too. Kavanaugh is too super conservative that's his crime.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (LCr8f)
I thought it was his running train on rape cruises he captained.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (LCr8f)
I thought it was his running train on rape cruises he captained.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)
132
That would force them to put him under the prison.
He's not willing to make that sacrifice. He's dirty, he knows it, and isn't going to do anything to change it.
Posted by: Sponge
The Party is already punishing him. He should tell them to go fuck themselves.
He's not willing to make that sacrifice. He's dirty, he knows it, and isn't going to do anything to change it.
Posted by: Sponge
The Party is already punishing him. He should tell them to go fuck themselves.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (MGB5H)
133
This whole thing smells fishy.
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq. at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (NXYp1)
134
Well, looks like they're gonna need some new Hezbolah guys.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2024 01:30 PM (2UnvF)
135
Adams is a warning shot to all local level politicians they need to shut up about their problems with illegals.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:30 PM (tT6L1)
136
The Party is already punishing him. He should tell them to go fuck themselves.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (MGB5H)
He won't. He's party over everything as well. He'll take this and disappear.
The Party is already punishing him. He should tell them to go fuck themselves.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (MGB5H)
He won't. He's party over everything as well. He'll take this and disappear.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)
137
133 This whole thing smells fishy.
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq. at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (NXYp1)
You don't say.
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq. at September 27, 2024 01:29 PM (NXYp1)
You don't say.
Posted by: Oliver Klozoff at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (VoAdT)
138
133 This whole thing smells fishy.
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq
could you scale it down a bit please
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq
could you scale it down a bit please
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (W2Pud)
139
If he would have said crony capitalism it would have been far more accurate
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (eZwyX)
The new term I have heard is "rentier capitalism" where the whole system is forced through specific choke points so selected people and institution get their cut for not prohibiting any activity
You know, F:ck you, pay me capitalism.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (eZwyX)
The new term I have heard is "rentier capitalism" where the whole system is forced through specific choke points so selected people and institution get their cut for not prohibiting any activity
You know, F:ck you, pay me capitalism.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (D7oie)
140
@132
>>The Party is already punishing him. He should tell them to go fuck themselves.
There is a difference between punishing you and planting you.
These people do not f**k around, and Adams knows that.
He tried to tip toe through the rain drops, but he's going to get wet, how wet depends on if he takes his medicine and zips his lip.
>>The Party is already punishing him. He should tell them to go fuck themselves.
There is a difference between punishing you and planting you.
These people do not f**k around, and Adams knows that.
He tried to tip toe through the rain drops, but he's going to get wet, how wet depends on if he takes his medicine and zips his lip.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 27, 2024 01:32 PM (XV/Pl)
141
If James had made statements in her campaign how she was going to get Trump this whole thing would come across as highly prejudiced.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 27, 2024 01:32 PM (+xrWz)
142
Speaking of getting Trump. I thought this was pretty chilling. They haven't ruled out extermination if lawfare doesn't work.
https://tinyurl.com/yryp8b8z
Posted by: Just Lily at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (WoGOu)
Ooooh. Someone else likes Tommy's Podcast
https://tinyurl.com/yryp8b8z
Posted by: Just Lily at September 27, 2024 01:25 PM (WoGOu)
Ooooh. Someone else likes Tommy's Podcast
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:33 PM (D7oie)
143
>>came out and assured everyone that this would only be used this one time against Trump and everyone else is safe to continue doing the exact f*cking same thing without issue.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM
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As long as you don't cross us, that is
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM
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As long as you don't cross us, that is
Posted by: Governor Bitchface McWhorechel at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (1Au9i)
144
"135 Adams is a warning shot to all local level politicians they need to shut up about their problems with illegals."
It'd be funny if he changed political parties due to this.
It'd be funny if he changed political parties due to this.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (zSyrn)
145
"A New York appeals court expressed skepticism..."
That's all well and good, but isn't it almost always irrelevant given the political dynamic of these judicial domains? I mean they can mouth the words of "lawful" and "fair" but it ultimately boils down to which court has which political lean until the Supreme Court FINALLY ends the politics (though not really because it too is political).
Clearly there's no crime and clearly it's political targeting of Trump by political activists disguised as "legal accountability", but heavily-weighted courts/jurisdictions punt the law and carry popular judgements that keep them locally employed.
That's all well and good, but isn't it almost always irrelevant given the political dynamic of these judicial domains? I mean they can mouth the words of "lawful" and "fair" but it ultimately boils down to which court has which political lean until the Supreme Court FINALLY ends the politics (though not really because it too is political).
Clearly there's no crime and clearly it's political targeting of Trump by political activists disguised as "legal accountability", but heavily-weighted courts/jurisdictions punt the law and carry popular judgements that keep them locally employed.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (aXxgO)
146
This whole thing smells fishy.
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq
could you scale it down a bit please
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (W2Pud)
He's gotta hook us somehow.
Posted by: Rex DeQuim, Esq
could you scale it down a bit please
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (W2Pud)
He's gotta hook us somehow.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (0eaVi)
147
Candy ass Justice Roberts deserves a lot of the credit. I continue to wonder what they have on him.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (Z8Yh2)
148
I'm surprised the state's lawyer flubbed the "harm" question so badly. It was an obvious question.
I think the better answer is that by allegedly deceiving the bank into lending money to Trump, that meant that other potential borrowers were deprived of the ability to get these loans. Put another way, Trump lied his way to the front of the loan line, meaning those behind him couldn't get loans.
Yes, this is a dogshit argument that should never fly. But it does identify both a "harm" and to the "public" that the AG is supposed to be protecting. It's better than the ramble-on the state's attorney gave.
I think the better answer is that by allegedly deceiving the bank into lending money to Trump, that meant that other potential borrowers were deprived of the ability to get these loans. Put another way, Trump lied his way to the front of the loan line, meaning those behind him couldn't get loans.
Yes, this is a dogshit argument that should never fly. But it does identify both a "harm" and to the "public" that the AG is supposed to be protecting. It's better than the ramble-on the state's attorney gave.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (iFTx/)
149
Good thing he just stood there keeping the camera rolling instead of, you know, rendering aid or calling the police or maintaining visual on the suspect.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:26 PM
You must not have had the sound turned on, someone, either the person filming or a person in the background is on the phone with police describing the location, the naked man, and the accident.
But damn to knock over that big truck... dude must have had the pedal to the metal.
Good thing he just stood there keeping the camera rolling instead of, you know, rendering aid or calling the police or maintaining visual on the suspect.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:26 PM
You must not have had the sound turned on, someone, either the person filming or a person in the background is on the phone with police describing the location, the naked man, and the accident.
But damn to knock over that big truck... dude must have had the pedal to the metal.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
150
Adams knows he's the sacrificial lamb that made the mistake of saying illegal immigrants was bad for NYC. It's to the slaughterhouse for him and he'll accept it because he did the party wrong.
The DOJ needs to make it look like they go after their own so Garland can scream "IMPARTIAL!!!!!!"
The DOJ needs to make it look like they go after their own so Garland can scream "IMPARTIAL!!!!!!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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"Tish" James
Another midwit nullity.
The Uniparty excels at finding such people and getting them elected.
"Tish" James
Another midwit nullity.
The Uniparty excels at finding such people and getting them elected.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (Y1sOo)
153
You must not have had the sound turned on, someone, either the person filming or a person in the background is on the phone with police describing the location, the naked man, and the accident.
But damn to knock over that big truck... dude must have had the pedal to the metal.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
Ah, no. Sound was off.
At least they did something other than film.
But damn to knock over that big truck... dude must have had the pedal to the metal.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
Ah, no. Sound was off.
At least they did something other than film.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)
154
Adams is a warning shot to all local level politicians they need to shut up about their problems with illegals.
In MA they had an illegal rape a 14 year old recently.
The governor's response, "Well these things happen" with a bored look on her face...
In MA they had an illegal rape a 14 year old recently.
The governor's response, "Well these things happen" with a bored look on her face...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (oZhjI)
155
Who's making decisions in the Oval Office today?
Jose from Groundskeeping?
Phil from Building Maintenance?
Juanita from Housekeeping?
Jose from Groundskeeping?
Phil from Building Maintenance?
Juanita from Housekeeping?
Posted by: The world wonders at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (DobEs)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 27, 2024 01:36 PM (YjVTi)
157
Where are the famous DC leakers when we need them? Remember the Pentagon Papers? Damn , but I wish some low-ranking secretary would slip to a reporter a thumb drive with 1TB of evidence!!
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Imperial Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungle alone for 50 years are less tenacious than these dolts--they seriously believe that a city that voted 98% for Biden is holding back massively damning proof of Trump's crimes.
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Imperial Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungle alone for 50 years are less tenacious than these dolts--they seriously believe that a city that voted 98% for Biden is holding back massively damning proof of Trump's crimes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (/lzai)
158
The new term I have heard is "rentier capitalism" where the whole system is forced through specific choke points so selected people and institution get their cut for not prohibiting any activity
You know, F:ck you, pay me capitalism.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (D7oie)
I guess it depends on the origin of said "choke points". If they're dictated by the State directly, it's Marxist-Leninism. If they're dictated by State-run Corporations, it's Fascism. If by independent Corporations operating in concert under a permissive State, Syndicalism. If by independent Corporations operating in competition... Regular old Capitalism?
I don't know. I'm probably way off base. Just making a half-assed attempt at forming some kind of rubric.
You know, F:ck you, pay me capitalism.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:31 PM (D7oie)
I guess it depends on the origin of said "choke points". If they're dictated by the State directly, it's Marxist-Leninism. If they're dictated by State-run Corporations, it's Fascism. If by independent Corporations operating in concert under a permissive State, Syndicalism. If by independent Corporations operating in competition... Regular old Capitalism?
I don't know. I'm probably way off base. Just making a half-assed attempt at forming some kind of rubric.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (eZwyX)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (YjVTi)
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157 Imperial Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungle alone for 50 years are less tenacious than these dolts--they seriously believe that a city that voted 98% for Biden is holding back massively damning proof of Trump's crimes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (/lzai)
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The DOJ is in Trump's pocket.
It's literally the only explanation that they haven't sent execution squads after him.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (/lzai)
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The DOJ is in Trump's pocket.
It's literally the only explanation that they haven't sent execution squads after him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (GBKbO)
162
BBC reporter in Beirut says there were "about eight" huge explosions. This is consistent with the idea that IDF used bunker busters to destroy the headquarters deep underground.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 27, 2024 01:38 PM (paSBy)
163
"If James had made statements in her campaign how she was going to get Trump this whole thing would come across as highly prejudiced."
Subtle.
Subtle.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 27, 2024 01:38 PM (Z8Yh2)
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112 A good list was building in the previous thread of people worth following on X.
I'll add:
Roseanne Barr
Posted by: LizLem
Lol. I always just viewed as generally crazy/bitchy, but in a strange coincidence, DU just stumbled across one of her older X posts and freaked out:
Roseanne Barr was video’d by her son in the middle of a sudden flashback, while shopping at Bergdorf’s.
Ms. Barr said that the flashback was a memory of Joe Biden raping her in the store’s shoe department dressing room, in 1998.
(X link with video https://tinyurl.com/mu3ctx9h )
DU had the typical outrage progression, calling her horrible things for accusing Biden of misconduct (and she's fat and ugly, so no one would rape her...literally!), to finally understanding she was mocking E. Jean Carroll, so they had to crank the outrage up to 11.
I'll add:
Roseanne Barr
Posted by: LizLem
Lol. I always just viewed as generally crazy/bitchy, but in a strange coincidence, DU just stumbled across one of her older X posts and freaked out:
Roseanne Barr was video’d by her son in the middle of a sudden flashback, while shopping at Bergdorf’s.
Ms. Barr said that the flashback was a memory of Joe Biden raping her in the store’s shoe department dressing room, in 1998.
(X link with video https://tinyurl.com/mu3ctx9h )
DU had the typical outrage progression, calling her horrible things for accusing Biden of misconduct (and she's fat and ugly, so no one would rape her...literally!), to finally understanding she was mocking E. Jean Carroll, so they had to crank the outrage up to 11.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:38 PM (U06Eh)
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Honestly? I'd even respect it if some left-wing judge said :
"Look, I hate that orange motherfucker even more than you do, I'd love to gut him like a fish then drop him in a vat of acid, but y'all mother fuckers don't have a case, here."
"Look, I hate that orange motherfucker even more than you do, I'd love to gut him like a fish then drop him in a vat of acid, but y'all mother fuckers don't have a case, here."
Posted by: XTC at September 27, 2024 01:38 PM (UnA8+)
166
164 DU had the typical outrage progression, calling her horrible things for accusing Biden of misconduct (and she's fat and ugly, so no one would rape her...literally!), to finally understanding she was mocking E. Jean Carroll, so they had to crank the outrage up to 11.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:38 PM (U06Eh)
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Do they not believe all women?
I don't get it.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 27, 2024 01:38 PM (U06Eh)
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Do they not believe all women?
I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)
167
Who's making decisions in the Oval Office today?
Jose from Groundskeeping?
Phil from Building Maintenance?
Juanita from Housekeeping?
Posted by: The world wonders at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (DobEs)
Xi from Beijing.
Jose from Groundskeeping?
Phil from Building Maintenance?
Juanita from Housekeeping?
Posted by: The world wonders at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (DobEs)
Xi from Beijing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (FfOMr)
168
160 Who's making decisions in the Oval Office today?
Commander.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (YjVTi)
A great descriptor of this administration as a whole:
"Dog Shit Bingo"
Commander.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (YjVTi)
A great descriptor of this administration as a whole:
"Dog Shit Bingo"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (VoAdT)
169
Do they not believe all women?
I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:39
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Isn't that a bannin?
I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:39
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Isn't that a bannin?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (tT6L1)
170
Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
171
169 Isn't that a bannin?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (tT6L1)
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TJM is illiterate. He will be banned until he learns to read!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (tT6L1)
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TJM is illiterate. He will be banned until he learns to read!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (GBKbO)
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Candy ass Justice Roberts deserves a lot of the credit. I continue to wonder what they have on him.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (Z8Yh2)
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Candy ass Justice Roberts deserves a lot of the credit. I continue to wonder what they have on him.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (Z8Yh2)
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (LCr8f)
173
Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L1)
174
Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
There's a lot of them out there on the 'net.
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
There's a lot of them out there on the 'net.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (0eaVi)
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> Who's making decisions in the Oval Office today?
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The same 'cabal' that was on day one of the pants shitter's term. Those people need to hang with all the others I've mentioned here.
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The same 'cabal' that was on day one of the pants shitter's term. Those people need to hang with all the others I've mentioned here.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (Q4IgG)
176
170 Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
I thought the whole point of Fish puns was seeing how long people could go WITHOUT using "Just for the halibut".
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
I thought the whole point of Fish puns was seeing how long people could go WITHOUT using "Just for the halibut".
Posted by: XTC at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (UnA8+)
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Posted by: Pete Cook at September 27, 2024 01:24 PM (/O7dq)
1. Anyone in a position to affect legislation or regulations must have all investments held in blind trusts. They also may not be in high positions in companies who do business with the government.
2. No one affected by item 1 may receive gifts, royalties, or speaking fees from any company regulated by the government.
3. No government entity, at any level, may engage in collective bargaining.
4. No government employee (including elected) shall receive a pension. 401k or equivalent.
5. All elections shall be audited. In any case where significant discrepancies exist, criminal proceeding shall follow.
6. All voter rolls shall be purged, all applications to be re-added shall include proof of citizenship, applications shall be halted 6 months prior to general election day.
7. ID required to vote.
8. Excluding special elections necessitated by death, etc., all elections shall take place at the same time. (no scheduling local elections for when no one is paying attention)
9. Deport ALL illegals (beginning with those who have committed crimes since entering). Prison sentences for anyone found to be harboring illegals.
1. Anyone in a position to affect legislation or regulations must have all investments held in blind trusts. They also may not be in high positions in companies who do business with the government.
2. No one affected by item 1 may receive gifts, royalties, or speaking fees from any company regulated by the government.
3. No government entity, at any level, may engage in collective bargaining.
4. No government employee (including elected) shall receive a pension. 401k or equivalent.
5. All elections shall be audited. In any case where significant discrepancies exist, criminal proceeding shall follow.
6. All voter rolls shall be purged, all applications to be re-added shall include proof of citizenship, applications shall be halted 6 months prior to general election day.
7. ID required to vote.
8. Excluding special elections necessitated by death, etc., all elections shall take place at the same time. (no scheduling local elections for when no one is paying attention)
9. Deport ALL illegals (beginning with those who have committed crimes since entering). Prison sentences for anyone found to be harboring illegals.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (T7iTv)
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173 Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
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The new term I have heard is "rentier capitalism" where the whole system is forced through specific choke points so selected people and institution get their cut for not prohibiting any activity
This was common from the Renaissance straight through to the modern period. People would pay the government for office and then profit off it by forcing people to pay them to be allowed to do whatever business they wanted to do.
Now occasionally someone would get a little too greedy and the king would have to remove his head but for the most part it was just how business was done.
This was common from the Renaissance straight through to the modern period. People would pay the government for office and then profit off it by forcing people to pay them to be allowed to do whatever business they wanted to do.
Now occasionally someone would get a little too greedy and the king would have to remove his head but for the most part it was just how business was done.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Oof at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (DobEs)
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Just making a half-assed attempt at forming some kind of rubric.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (VoAdT)
Get it into the third dimension and you could have a rubric's cube.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (VoAdT)
Get it into the third dimension and you could have a rubric's cube.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (LCr8f)
182
Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
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Everyone keeps dropping a fish pun line.
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
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Everyone keeps dropping a fish pun line.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (tT6L1)
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Candy ass Justice Roberts deserves a lot of the credit. I continue to wonder what they have on him.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (Z8Yh2)
He went to Epstein Island.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 27, 2024 01:34 PM (Z8Yh2)
He went to Epstein Island.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)
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Get it into the third dimension and you could have a rubric's cube.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (LCr8f)
I'd just peel the stickers off and re-arrange them.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (LCr8f)
I'd just peel the stickers off and re-arrange them.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:42 PM (VoAdT)
185
Do they not believe all women?
I've asked a bunch of leftists if they believe Juanita Broaddrick over the years. They all claim to not know who she is but if forced will say they doubt her claim because uh...reasons...
I've asked a bunch of leftists if they believe Juanita Broaddrick over the years. They all claim to not know who she is but if forced will say they doubt her claim because uh...reasons...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (oZhjI)
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178 173 Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
Just don't want to be accused of trolling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
Just don't want to be accused of trolling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Groan at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (DobEs)
188
This thread has turned to crappie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)
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185 Do they not believe all women?
I've asked a bunch of leftists if they believe Juanita Broaddrick over the years. They all claim to not know who she is but if forced will say they doubt her claim because uh...reasons...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (oZhjI)
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"Are you erasing her lived experiences?"
I've asked a bunch of leftists if they believe Juanita Broaddrick over the years. They all claim to not know who she is but if forced will say they doubt her claim because uh...reasons...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (oZhjI)
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"Are you erasing her lived experiences?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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188 This thread has turned to crappie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)
you don't have to carp about it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)
you don't have to carp about it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (VoAdT)
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He went to Epstein Island.
Someone compared the reporter John Roberts with the Epstein flight logs and the reporter had an alibi.
The SC justice is the only other big name that would merit a trip and...he doesn't have an alibi.
He went to Epstein Island.
Someone compared the reporter John Roberts with the Epstein flight logs and the reporter had an alibi.
The SC justice is the only other big name that would merit a trip and...he doesn't have an alibi.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (oZhjI)
192
Joe Rogan has a former Navy Seal on talking about an October 7th style event in this country:
"They all have one common goal: to come over to the Western world and ruin our way of life. They're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating real passports, and then they get them flights all over South & Central America. They funnel them up through the Darien Gap into the U.S."
https://is.gd/i6XOnq
/ content warning
Joe Rogan has a former Navy Seal on talking about an October 7th style event in this country:
"They all have one common goal: to come over to the Western world and ruin our way of life. They're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating real passports, and then they get them flights all over South & Central America. They funnel them up through the Darien Gap into the U.S."
https://is.gd/i6XOnq
/ content warning
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (RKVpM)
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (c711F)
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>>I think the better answer is that by allegedly deceiving the bank into lending money to Trump, that meant that other potential borrowers were deprived of the ability to get these loans. Put another way, Trump lied his way to the front of the loan line, meaning those behind him couldn't get loans.
The problem with this line of argument is the loan was paid back and it could be applied to any loan given. If it wasn't paid back, this would be an actual argument - Trump stole funds from the bank that could have gone to others - but suggesting he got the loan means others didn't get one is an "argument in the universal" - ie, applies to everyone.
The problem with this line of argument is the loan was paid back and it could be applied to any loan given. If it wasn't paid back, this would be an actual argument - Trump stole funds from the bank that could have gone to others - but suggesting he got the loan means others didn't get one is an "argument in the universal" - ie, applies to everyone.
Posted by: Boswell at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (V7158)
195
Remember:
If we had only nominated a better quality candidate, the Democrats would not have been forced to charge Trump, for the first time anyone has ever been charged, under a massively expansive non-sensical reading of the statute.
"The Law is whatever I say it is," that's what you get for nominating Trump.
If we had only nominated a better quality candidate, the Democrats would not have been forced to charge Trump, for the first time anyone has ever been charged, under a massively expansive non-sensical reading of the statute.
"The Law is whatever I say it is," that's what you get for nominating Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (/lzai)
196
Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
Just don't want to be accused of trolling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (/6GbT)
Can we just say "fin" to the fish puns?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
Just don't want to be accused of trolling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (/6GbT)
Can we just say "fin" to the fish puns?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (0eaVi)
197
I'm here for the ice cream and cake.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (gdH0L)
198
Trump lied his way to the front of the loan line, meaning those behind him couldn't get loans.
Explain to me why fake Indian Warren getting to the head of the line was not a problem then?
Explain to me why fake Indian Warren getting to the head of the line was not a problem then?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (oZhjI)
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195 Remember:
If we had only nominated a better quality candidate, the Democrats would not have been forced to charge Trump, for the first time anyone has ever been charged, under a massively expansive non-sensical reading of the statute.
"The Law is whatever I say it is," that's what you get for nominating Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (/lzai)
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They wouldn't have done this against Jeb!
Honestly, they wouldn't have.
Still would have called him Nazi for a decade straight, though.
If we had only nominated a better quality candidate, the Democrats would not have been forced to charge Trump, for the first time anyone has ever been charged, under a massively expansive non-sensical reading of the statute.
"The Law is whatever I say it is," that's what you get for nominating Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (/lzai)
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They wouldn't have done this against Jeb!
Honestly, they wouldn't have.
Still would have called him Nazi for a decade straight, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
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The problem with this line of argument is the loan was paid back and it could be applied to any loan given. If it wasn't paid back, this would be an actual argument - Trump stole funds from the bank that could have gone to others - but suggesting he got the loan means others didn't get one is an "argument in the universal" - ie, applies to everyone.
Posted by: Boswell at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (V715
It's also false in the universal, isn't it?
You can't "lie" to the bank about the value of your house. They know exactly what the value of your house is. Declaring a number is basically a formality, agreeing as two parties on what the value of the thing is as collateral.
So the whole second-order opportunity cost argument is moot before you even get to it.
Posted by: Boswell at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (V715
It's also false in the universal, isn't it?
You can't "lie" to the bank about the value of your house. They know exactly what the value of your house is. Declaring a number is basically a formality, agreeing as two parties on what the value of the thing is as collateral.
So the whole second-order opportunity cost argument is moot before you even get to it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:47 PM (VoAdT)
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I guess it depends on the origin of said "choke points". If they're dictated by the State directly, it's Marxist-Leninism. If they're dictated by State-run Corporations, it's Fascism. If by independent Corporations operating in concert under a permissive State, Syndicalism. If by independent Corporations operating in competition... Regular old Capitalism?
[. . . ]
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (VoAdT)
They are all the same, even mercantilism and the older crown monopoly system was rentier-ism and they all depend on the state to enforce the status quo, for their own price and control needs as well.
the general classic liberal attitude that monopolies and cartels are broken either by innovation or by cheating by the members does not take into consideration the action of the state stepping in to control it "for the good of the consumer"
the industries either get controlled directly by the state, which is fascism, the market is controlled by the state, which is mercantilism, or the state is captured by the industries, and leverage that power to control the market, which is our rentier capitalism. The costs are socialized and the profits are privatized
[. . . ]
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:37 PM (VoAdT)
They are all the same, even mercantilism and the older crown monopoly system was rentier-ism and they all depend on the state to enforce the status quo, for their own price and control needs as well.
the general classic liberal attitude that monopolies and cartels are broken either by innovation or by cheating by the members does not take into consideration the action of the state stepping in to control it "for the good of the consumer"
the industries either get controlled directly by the state, which is fascism, the market is controlled by the state, which is mercantilism, or the state is captured by the industries, and leverage that power to control the market, which is our rentier capitalism. The costs are socialized and the profits are privatized
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:47 PM (D7oie)
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194 >>I think the better answer is that by allegedly deceiving the bank into lending money to Trump, that meant that other potential borrowers were deprived of the ability to get these loans. Put another way, Trump lied his way to the front of the loan line, meaning those behind him couldn't get loans.
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Money isn't a zero sum game. The bank needs more money it borrows from the Fed @ 0.01%. There's no end of the line. Step up to the bar and fill your glass.
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Money isn't a zero sum game. The bank needs more money it borrows from the Fed @ 0.01%. There's no end of the line. Step up to the bar and fill your glass.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (gdH0L)
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This is a serious issue for me, sorry if I am boring.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (D7oie)
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198 Trump lied his way to the front of the loan line, meaning those behind him couldn't get loans.
Explain to me why fake Indian Warren getting to the head of the line was not a problem then?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (oZhjI)
those behind him unable to get loans? Really? If the financial institution doesn't have the funds, they can in turn borrow from other FIs.
Explain to me why fake Indian Warren getting to the head of the line was not a problem then?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (oZhjI)
those behind him unable to get loans? Really? If the financial institution doesn't have the funds, they can in turn borrow from other FIs.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (N39Ws)
205
Still would have called him Nazi for a decade straight, though.
Then: Dick Cheney is a genocidal war monger who kills dark skin people for the pleasure of killing them
Now: Since Dick Cheney has endorsed Brat Queen Kamala you have to vote for her right?
Then: Dick Cheney is a genocidal war monger who kills dark skin people for the pleasure of killing them
Now: Since Dick Cheney has endorsed Brat Queen Kamala you have to vote for her right?
Posted by: The left at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (oZhjI)
206
200 You can't "lie" to the bank about the value of your house. They know exactly what the value of your house is. Declaring a number is basically a formality, agreeing as two parties on what the value of the thing is as collateral.
So the whole second-order opportunity cost argument is moot before you even get to it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:47 PM (VoAdT)
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What's property worth? What someone is willing to pay for it.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
So the whole second-order opportunity cost argument is moot before you even get to it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:47 PM (VoAdT)
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What's property worth? What someone is willing to pay for it.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
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"The Law is whatever I say it is," that's what you get for nominating Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (/lzai)
You burnt the meatloaf, America.
Do better.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:45 PM (/lzai)
You burnt the meatloaf, America.
Do better.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (VoAdT)
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205 Then: Dick Cheney is a genocidal war monger who kills dark skin people for the pleasure of killing them
Now: Since Dick Cheney has endorsed Brat Queen Kamala you have to vote for her right?
Posted by: The left at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (oZhjI)
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I was convinced by the movie Vice that Dick Cheney is an evil, amoral monster who should be destroyed.
Anything he says, I'm against.
I was Kamala curious, but now I'm against her because of the movie Vice and Hollywood's influence on my thinking.
Now: Since Dick Cheney has endorsed Brat Queen Kamala you have to vote for her right?
Posted by: The left at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (oZhjI)
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I was convinced by the movie Vice that Dick Cheney is an evil, amoral monster who should be destroyed.
Anything he says, I'm against.
I was Kamala curious, but now I'm against her because of the movie Vice and Hollywood's influence on my thinking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
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Will investigate Trump for $$
Posted by: DaveA at September 27, 2024 01:49 PM (FhXTo)
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I always wondered how judgements like this were not a violation of the "excessive fines" and/or " ... and unusual punishment" clauses of the 8th amendment
Posted by: Big Star at September 27, 2024 01:49 PM (Modkf)
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No one but no one has standing to challenge obvious, clear and blatant vote fraud.
But some dim bint, by the purifying virtue of winning office, has standing to criminally charge her hated political opposition because of a private transaction where no one was harmed in any way, shape or form.
Respect the Rule of Law!
But some dim bint, by the purifying virtue of winning office, has standing to criminally charge her hated political opposition because of a private transaction where no one was harmed in any way, shape or form.
Respect the Rule of Law!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (/lzai)
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Well Trump is probably the only person who thinks his stuff is worth more than another party thinks it's worth.
The only person besides every single other person on the planet, I mean.
The only person besides every single other person on the planet, I mean.
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (LCr8f)
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What's property worth? What someone is willing to pay for it.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Yeah, lots of people are confused by that. They don't get the buyer has a say in what something is worth.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Yeah, lots of people are confused by that. They don't get the buyer has a say in what something is worth.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)
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A bit off topic
I live in farming/X-burbs in Pa. There are Many nurseries around our area. Some of the farm owners buy old farmhouses to provide housing for the seasonal legal immigrants (mostly Mexicans).
I drove past one of the houses today and saw a Trump flag and sign on the house.
Haven’t seen that before.
I live in farming/X-burbs in Pa. There are Many nurseries around our area. Some of the farm owners buy old farmhouses to provide housing for the seasonal legal immigrants (mostly Mexicans).
I drove past one of the houses today and saw a Trump flag and sign on the house.
Haven’t seen that before.
Posted by: Redenzo at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (V/pbu)
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What's property worth? What someone is willing to pay for it.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
What is an apple worth? What is a '73 Pinto worth? What is the lint in my pocket worth?
It should probably the Fundamental Theorem of Economics that there is no such thing as absolute economic value.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
What is an apple worth? What is a '73 Pinto worth? What is the lint in my pocket worth?
It should probably the Fundamental Theorem of Economics that there is no such thing as absolute economic value.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (VoAdT)
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213 Yeah, lots of people are confused by that. They don't get the buyer has a say in what something is worth.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)
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A lot of worldly behavior is explained by the rather simple supply and demand curve.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)
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A lot of worldly behavior is explained by the rather simple supply and demand curve.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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The weekend is coming
If I can get home from Biden County
If I can get home from Biden County
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2024 01:51 PM (Y75Ef)
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This Tish James needs to tone it down a bit.
Posted by: Lavrentriy Beria at September 27, 2024 01:52 PM (2UnvF)
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I am not sure what to even say here… we are giving this guy billions?
https://tinyurl.com/5ytebcwh
https://tinyurl.com/5ytebcwh
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:53 PM (pZEOD)
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In a related subject, a sewage pipe pressure test failed in China. Poop everywhere.
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
Now do any east coast city and see who laughs.
China has substandard infrastructure. The US has old and decaying infrastructure.
Good thing we've had since 2008 all that extra money dedicated to shovel ready infrastructure. /s
Posted by: Piper at September 27, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)
Now do any east coast city and see who laughs.
China has substandard infrastructure. The US has old and decaying infrastructure.
Good thing we've had since 2008 all that extra money dedicated to shovel ready infrastructure. /s
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:53 PM (FCbAQ)
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>>>I was Kamala curious, but now I'm against her because of the movie Vice and Hollywood's influence on my thinking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
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Well said.
Straight capitalism should be analogous to the sweet science of boxing but reality is it's a cage fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
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Well said.
Straight capitalism should be analogous to the sweet science of boxing but reality is it's a cage fight.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2024 01:53 PM (gdH0L)
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Maybe types deletes types deletes clears browser history
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (QSrLX)
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X is twittering right now because of huge explosions in Lebanon. Israel may have just taken out the head of Hezbollah.
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
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Good thing we've had since 2008 all that extra money dedicated to shovel ready infrastructure. /s
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:53 PM (FCbAQ)
"Alright, let's do this! Anyone got a shovel?"
"No. Sold mine for lunch money."
"Me too."
"Mine was stolen."
"Dammit."
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:53 PM (FCbAQ)
"Alright, let's do this! Anyone got a shovel?"
"No. Sold mine for lunch money."
"Me too."
"Mine was stolen."
"Dammit."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (VoAdT)
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I hope there's video of Nasrallah's charred corpse being dragged out of that hole in Beirut.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (paSBy)
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It's funny to think that two of the cannon fodder in a Halloween movie (H20, Twenty Years Later) were both in separate movies nominated for Best Picture last year.
Michelle Williams was in The Fabelmans.
Josh Hartnett was in Oppenheimer.
Michelle Williams was in The Fabelmans.
Josh Hartnett was in Oppenheimer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (GBKbO)
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It should probably the Fundamental Theorem of Economics that there is no such thing as absolute economic value.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (VoAdT)
The value is established by what a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell agree it is.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (VoAdT)
The value is established by what a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell agree it is.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (FCbAQ)
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What's property worth? What someone is willing to pay for it.
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
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So I only learned like a few weeks ago that the normal way to buy and sell a house in England and Australia is, interested buyer folks all show up, stand in the yard and yell out how much they'll pay.
They guy put it: "Biggest financial decision of your life and you didn't think you were going to be yelling in the street with a bunch of strangers?"
There are ways to figure out what the amount probably is, but it's not "exact", not until someone pays for it.
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So I only learned like a few weeks ago that the normal way to buy and sell a house in England and Australia is, interested buyer folks all show up, stand in the yard and yell out how much they'll pay.
They guy put it: "Biggest financial decision of your life and you didn't think you were going to be yelling in the street with a bunch of strangers?"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (/lzai)
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223 X is twittering right now because of huge explosions in Lebanon. Israel may have just taken out the head of Hezbollah.
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
Nay. Just another day that ends with the letter "y".
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
Nay. Just another day that ends with the letter "y".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (N39Ws)
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If any of these black robed tyrants really wanted to exercise truth and justice, as their titles suggest they should have at least some passing interest in those words, the first question asked should’ve been “Did Attorney Gerneral James bring this lawsuit before the courts to ‘Get Trump’ as she promised to do during her campaign for office? Is this entire case a pursuit of justice or politics?”
That’s the only issue that matters here, and they all know it.
Anything else is just theater.
That’s the only issue that matters here, and they all know it.
Anything else is just theater.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (6ydKt)
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227 The value is established by what a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell agree it is.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (FCbAQ)
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"This business building that is worth $300 million sold for only $30 million."
"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (FCbAQ)
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"This business building that is worth $300 million sold for only $30 million."
"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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229 223 X is twittering right now because of huge explosions in Lebanon. Israel may have just taken out the head of Hezbollah.
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
Not until it's confirmed he's mort
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
Not until it's confirmed he's mort
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (IyPmt)
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In MA they had an illegal rape a 14 year old recently.
The governor's response, "Well these things happen" with a bored look on her face...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (oZhjI)
you know, this is one of those where i'm so conflicted because on the one hand, you sort of kind of wish it happened to their kids because maybe then they'd catch on.
but at the same time, that's not really fair to the kid and i feel absolutely awefull even considering suggesting the idea.
and on the third hand, as has been shown before, leftists don't love their kids enough to modify their beliefs and they'd figure out a way to explain it so that the real criminal is the right somehow...
so please god, forget i thought or suggested such a thing...
The governor's response, "Well these things happen" with a bored look on her face...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (oZhjI)
you know, this is one of those where i'm so conflicted because on the one hand, you sort of kind of wish it happened to their kids because maybe then they'd catch on.
but at the same time, that's not really fair to the kid and i feel absolutely awefull even considering suggesting the idea.
and on the third hand, as has been shown before, leftists don't love their kids enough to modify their beliefs and they'd figure out a way to explain it so that the real criminal is the right somehow...
so please god, forget i thought or suggested such a thing...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (v6XNT)
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7. Deport illegals convicted of sexu@l offenses.
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How about he deportation of illegals PERIOD.
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How about he deportation of illegals PERIOD.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (g8Ew8)
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Trump and JD Vance need to hammer Kamala and Walz on these new statistics-
TV News Now
@TVNewsNow
“It’s a jaw dropper to say the least” — Fox’s
@BillMelugin_
on new ICE data showing huge number of border migrants with convictions
https://tinyurl.com/m9p463j7
TV News Now
@TVNewsNow
“It’s a jaw dropper to say the least” — Fox’s
@BillMelugin_
on new ICE data showing huge number of border migrants with convictions
https://tinyurl.com/m9p463j7
Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (NpAcC)
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The value is established by what a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell agree it is.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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That's one way of looking at it.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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That's one way of looking at it.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (gdH0L)
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A lot of worldly behavior is explained by the rather simple supply and demand curve.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
I was discussing labor value theory with a co worker who graduated from Berkeley in the 70's and finally I asked her what my collection of left foot, lime green, size 13AAA lace up boots were worth to her, since they were made by Italian workshops with old world materials and skills.
Doctrinaire Marxists should be drugged and left in the woods for the bears.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
I was discussing labor value theory with a co worker who graduated from Berkeley in the 70's and finally I asked her what my collection of left foot, lime green, size 13AAA lace up boots were worth to her, since they were made by Italian workshops with old world materials and skills.
Doctrinaire Marxists should be drugged and left in the woods for the bears.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:58 PM (D7oie)
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Doctrinaire Marxists should be drugged and left in the woods for the bears.
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You meant to say Haitians, rite?
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You meant to say Haitians, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 27, 2024 01:58 PM (c711F)
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235 Trump and JD Vance need to hammer Kamala and Walz on these new statistics-
TV News Now
@TVNewsNow
“It’s a jaw dropper to say the least” — Fox’s
@BillMelugin_
on new ICE data showing huge number of border migrants with convictions
https://tinyurl.com/m9p463j7
Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (NpAcC)
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*Trump talks through it at every rally for a month*
*everyone ignores him*
*Trump says, "They're killing our kids!"*
*media furiously covers it because it's controversial*
*NRO says that Trump just lost the debate on illegal immigrant crime*
TV News Now
@TVNewsNow
“It’s a jaw dropper to say the least” — Fox’s
@BillMelugin_
on new ICE data showing huge number of border migrants with convictions
https://tinyurl.com/m9p463j7
Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (NpAcC)
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*Trump talks through it at every rally for a month*
*everyone ignores him*
*Trump says, "They're killing our kids!"*
*media furiously covers it because it's controversial*
*NRO says that Trump just lost the debate on illegal immigrant crime*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)
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The value is established by what a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell agree it is.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack
foul, you failed to account for time preference!
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack
foul, you failed to account for time preference!
Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2024 01:59 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 01:59 PM (LCr8f)
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Man, betcha those 72 virgins are getting a workout! They prolly had to put up one of those "Take a Number" doodads!
OTOH, after those pagers...
OTOH, after those pagers...
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 27, 2024 01:59 PM (gfztU)
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The weekend is coming
If I can get home from Biden County
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2024 01:51 PM (Y75Ef)
Just hope you don't have a breakdown. I hear the sheriff is crazy.
If I can get home from Biden County
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2024 01:51 PM (Y75Ef)
Just hope you don't have a breakdown. I hear the sheriff is crazy.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 27, 2024 02:00 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 27, 2024 02:00 PM (YjVTi)
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That's what I said, WHO'S in the oval office?
Posted by: Lou Costello at September 27, 2024 02:01 PM (63Dwl)
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Anybody know if any Gays or Transgender were hurt or killed from the Hurricane in Georgia caused by Global Warming from Trump's policies???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at September 27, 2024 02:01 PM (Mig/N)
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The fact that there was never a trial to determine if there was fraud should be a big red flag too. The entire hearing was the "penalty phase" because the judge determined there was no disagreement over the facts at issue this no need for a jury to determine them.
Posted by: Abdul ibn Machmood ibn Moor at September 27, 2024 02:01 PM (65zPH)
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"Tish" James claimed that Trump's alleged overestimation of the value of his billion dollar New York properties was a fraudulent deception of... somebody?
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Is New York going to refund Trump the extra taxes he paid due to the "overestimation".
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Is New York going to refund Trump the extra taxes he paid due to the "overestimation".
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 27, 2024 02:01 PM (zzdrL)
250
21 dead due to Helene.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (FfOMr)
251
Fox "News" Radio says Biden has been briefed.
Posted by: fd 49 at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (vFG9F)
252
Ace, maybe this is worth posting the flaming skull!
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
Not until it's confirmed he's mort
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (IyPmt)
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Agreed, Hezbollah is saying leader is safe.
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 01:54 PM (LNPSJ)
Not until it's confirmed he's mort
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (IyPmt)
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Agreed, Hezbollah is saying leader is safe.
Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (Qgr0I)
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233 In MA they had an illegal rape a 14 year old recently.
The governor's response, "Well these things happen" with a bored look on her face...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (oZhjI)
you know, this is one of those where i'm so conflicted because on the one hand, you sort of kind of wish it happened to their kids because maybe then they'd catch on.
but at the same time, that's not really fair to the kid and i feel absolutely awefull even considering suggesting the idea.
and on the third hand, as has been shown before, leftists don't love their kids enough to modify their beliefs and they'd figure out a way to explain it so that the real criminal is the right somehow...
so please god, forget i thought or suggested such a thing...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (v6XNT)
Rape is sexy.
The governor's response, "Well these things happen" with a bored look on her face...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2024 01:35 PM (oZhjI)
you know, this is one of those where i'm so conflicted because on the one hand, you sort of kind of wish it happened to their kids because maybe then they'd catch on.
but at the same time, that's not really fair to the kid and i feel absolutely awefull even considering suggesting the idea.
and on the third hand, as has been shown before, leftists don't love their kids enough to modify their beliefs and they'd figure out a way to explain it so that the real criminal is the right somehow...
so please god, forget i thought or suggested such a thing...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (v6XNT)
Rape is sexy.
Posted by: Jean Carroll at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (90qrx)
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I was listening to one of those financial radio shows years ago. A guy called in, said he'd bought a bunch of Australian dollars for something like 25K and was now confused why his purchase had lost something like 25% of it's value, because, 25K Australian!
Even I understood, back then, what the problems were, one of which was: Don't engage in currency speculation if you don't understand what you're doing!
Even I understood, back then, what the problems were, one of which was: Don't engage in currency speculation if you don't understand what you're doing!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (tT6L1)
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Harris may be drunk all the time which would explain her constant Word Salad Answers and Slurring of Words......
Posted by: Franklin Stein at September 27, 2024 02:03 PM (hbjSA)
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I get Tish James mixed up with that bint Fanny in GA…. Two peas in a pod
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 27, 2024 02:03 PM (ANuwa)
257
Fox "News" Radio says Biden has been briefed.
Posted by: fd 49 at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (vFG9F)
You just don't want to be there for the debriefing.
💩💩💩
Posted by: fd 49 at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (vFG9F)
You just don't want to be there for the debriefing.
💩💩💩
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 02:03 PM (LCr8f)
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>>> 192
Joe Rogan has a former Navy Seal on talking about an October 7th style event in this country:
"They all have one common goal: to come over to the Western world and ruin our way of life. They're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating real passports, and then they get them flights all over South & Central America. They funnel them up through the Darien Gap into the U.S."
https://is.gd/i6XOnq
/ content warning
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (RKVpM)
These things happen.
Joe Rogan has a former Navy Seal on talking about an October 7th style event in this country:
"They all have one common goal: to come over to the Western world and ruin our way of life. They're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating real passports, and then they get them flights all over South & Central America. They funnel them up through the Darien Gap into the U.S."
https://is.gd/i6XOnq
/ content warning
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:44 PM (RKVpM)
These things happen.
Posted by: MA Mayor at September 27, 2024 02:03 PM (FnneF)
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21 dead due to Helene.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (FfOMr)
Democrat prayers are 1/1000th answered!!!
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 27, 2024 02:02 PM (FfOMr)
Democrat prayers are 1/1000th answered!!!
Posted by: ... at September 27, 2024 02:04 PM (LCr8f)
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nood diddy
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 02:04 PM (v6XNT)
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Stop chumming the water with fish puns
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 27, 2024 02:04 PM (BVwxa)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 27, 2024 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>21 dead due to Helene.
Fake news. They just went to their local Waffle House while a little wind and rain swept through.
-- some dipshit here last week
Fake news. They just went to their local Waffle House while a little wind and rain swept through.
-- some dipshit here last week
Posted by: one hour sober at September 27, 2024 02:05 PM (Y1sOo)
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BREAKING: Acting ICE Director Patrick Lechleitner says 13,000 known illegal immigrants who were convicted of homicide and 15,000 convicted of sexual assault have been released into the country.
Nothing to see here women, remained committed to 'Roe, Roe, Roe the Vote' while you nervously look over your shoulder behind you. I'm sure your 'Men for Harris' guy can defend you.
BREAKING: Acting ICE Director Patrick Lechleitner says 13,000 known illegal immigrants who were convicted of homicide and 15,000 convicted of sexual assault have been released into the country.
Nothing to see here women, remained committed to 'Roe, Roe, Roe the Vote' while you nervously look over your shoulder behind you. I'm sure your 'Men for Harris' guy can defend you.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 02:05 PM (RKVpM)
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"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
It's almost as if you've never even heard of a Beanie Baby.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
It's almost as if you've never even heard of a Beanie Baby.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2024 02:07 PM (VoAdT)
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Is New York going to refund Trump the extra taxes he paid due to the "overestimation".
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Oh yeah.
Just like all the tax refunds all the businesses that were forced to close for months, earning $0.00 in revenue, during Covid.
No, sorry, I got that wrong. It was, "we shut your business down for most of the year, you're almost bankrupt now and can't afford the full year's taxes? Fuck you, pay me!"
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Oh yeah.
Just like all the tax refunds all the businesses that were forced to close for months, earning $0.00 in revenue, during Covid.
No, sorry, I got that wrong. It was, "we shut your business down for most of the year, you're almost bankrupt now and can't afford the full year's taxes? Fuck you, pay me!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 27, 2024 02:07 PM (/lzai)
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I listened to Fox’s reporter’s info on the report issued to Rep. Gonzales of Texas from deputy ice director. Hopefully Ace will do an article on what was revealed. It’s so nauseating. Several former Ice and BP officials were also in and were describing how the administration has completely destroyed the immigration process, particularly the background investigations.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 27, 2024 02:09 PM (3gkam)
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The value is established by what a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell agree it is.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (FCbAQ)
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"This business building that is worth $300 million sold for only $30 million."
"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
Ah, it turns out to be not that simple. One page later we got into the stresses that effect sellers and buyers that distort the value of a thing. At the end of the day, most things sold not at a retail level such as art or real estate or whatever is a one-off.
"That" thing was worth that much on that day.
Taken in the aggregate, one could develop a "market" price for those "things" as a whole, but each sale is a one-off.
-from my memory of econ 101-
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 01:55 PM (FCbAQ)
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"This business building that is worth $300 million sold for only $30 million."
"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
Ah, it turns out to be not that simple. One page later we got into the stresses that effect sellers and buyers that distort the value of a thing. At the end of the day, most things sold not at a retail level such as art or real estate or whatever is a one-off.
"That" thing was worth that much on that day.
Taken in the aggregate, one could develop a "market" price for those "things" as a whole, but each sale is a one-off.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2024 02:09 PM (FCbAQ)
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>>> 233
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you know, this is one of those where i'm so conflicted because on the one hand, you sort of kind of wish it happened to their kids because maybe then they'd catch on.
but at the same time, that's not really fair to the kid and i feel absolutely awefull even considering suggesting the idea.
and on the third hand, as has been shown before, leftists don't love their kids enough to modify their beliefs and they'd figure out a way to explain it so that the real criminal is the right somehow...
so please god, forget i thought or suggested such a thing...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (v6XNT)
There was a leftard German couple, iirc one or both politicians, whose daughter was raped and murdered by one or more 'refugees'. They made a public statement to the effect that they didn't want this to discourage acceptance of the 'refugees' and I'm pretty sure also made a donation to some NGO importing 'refugees'.
==
you know, this is one of those where i'm so conflicted because on the one hand, you sort of kind of wish it happened to their kids because maybe then they'd catch on.
but at the same time, that's not really fair to the kid and i feel absolutely awefull even considering suggesting the idea.
and on the third hand, as has been shown before, leftists don't love their kids enough to modify their beliefs and they'd figure out a way to explain it so that the real criminal is the right somehow...
so please god, forget i thought or suggested such a thing...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 27, 2024 01:57 PM (v6XNT)
There was a leftard German couple, iirc one or both politicians, whose daughter was raped and murdered by one or more 'refugees'. They made a public statement to the effect that they didn't want this to discourage acceptance of the 'refugees' and I'm pretty sure also made a donation to some NGO importing 'refugees'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2024 02:10 PM (FnneF)
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If the leader of Hezbollah survived, he will need to make a speech within a week or so.
https://tinyurl.com/bdfudtju
There's a lot of people on X speculating about this. Most seem to think that the leader was in a bunker and Israel got it with a bunker-buster. If so, that would be that.
https://tinyurl.com/bdfudtju
There's a lot of people on X speculating about this. Most seem to think that the leader was in a bunker and Israel got it with a bunker-buster. If so, that would be that.
Posted by: mr_jack at September 27, 2024 02:13 PM (LNPSJ)
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A near violent argument has erupted here over the issue of too many fresh strawberries make a cotton egg taste to the daquiris.
A near violent argument has erupted here over the issue of too many fresh strawberries make a cotton egg taste to the daquiris.
Posted by: Auspex at September 27, 2024 02:17 PM (j4U/Z)
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*** we urge all to remember that Sean Combs’ story is not the full story of hip-hop and its culture. We aim to ensure that individual actions do not overshadow the culture’s broader contributions.”***
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Right, all rappers aren't butt f()ckers but all rappers are a bunch of adulterant to life thugs.
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Right, all rappers aren't butt f()ckers but all rappers are a bunch of adulterant to life thugs.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2024 02:20 PM (gdH0L)
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"This business building that is worth $300 million sold for only $30 million."
"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
Ah, it turns out to be not that simple. One page later we got into the stresses that effect sellers and buyers that distort the value of a thing. At the end of the day, most things sold not at a retail level such as art or real estate or whatever is a one-off.
"That" thing was worth that much on that day.
Taken in the aggregate, one could develop a "market" price for those "things" as a whole, but each sale is a one-off.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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Chairman Xi waves and says hi.
"This business building that is worth $300 million sold for only $30 million."
"No, it's worth $30 million. Price tag told you that."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 27, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
Ah, it turns out to be not that simple. One page later we got into the stresses that effect sellers and buyers that distort the value of a thing. At the end of the day, most things sold not at a retail level such as art or real estate or whatever is a one-off.
"That" thing was worth that much on that day.
Taken in the aggregate, one could develop a "market" price for those "things" as a whole, but each sale is a one-off.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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Chairman Xi waves and says hi.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2024 02:22 PM (gdH0L)
274
196 Just dropping fish puns for the halibut? Really?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
Just don't want to be accused of trolling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (/6GbT)
Can we just say "fin" to the fish puns?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
How many fish puns will this thread spawn?
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:39 PM (/6GbT)
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Someone is angling for trouble.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 27, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L
These fish puns have left me reeling
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)
Just don't want to be accused of trolling
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 27, 2024 01:43 PM (/6GbT)
Can we just say "fin" to the fish puns?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
How many fish puns will this thread spawn?
Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 27, 2024 02:43 PM (JNTt1)
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Florida Man or Men for Harris voter?
https://is.gd/iwIbq2
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (RKVpM)
Why the hell do people shoot videos with their phone in portrait?? Is their TV or monitor screen shaped that way? Do they view the world that way?
Vertical Video Syndrome. Goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/3nm8ebyy
https://is.gd/iwIbq2
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 27, 2024 01:23 PM (RKVpM)
Why the hell do people shoot videos with their phone in portrait?? Is their TV or monitor screen shaped that way? Do they view the world that way?
Vertical Video Syndrome. Goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/3nm8ebyy
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 27, 2024 03:46 PM (iODuv)
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Whatever happened to cruel and unusual punishments?
Posted by: TJ Jackson at September 27, 2024 05:15 PM (bXvrr)
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