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Foreign Election Interference: Democrats Airlift Ukranian Dictator Zelensky to Campaign for Kamala Harris and the Chinese Communist Agent Tim Walz

The Bee:

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The Daily Caller:


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy flew into a key U.S. swing state this week on a taxpayer-funded aircraft after publicly criticizing former President Donald Trump and Republican Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance.

Zelenskyy touched down in Scranton, Pennsylvania, on Sunday in a U.S. Air Force C-17A aircraft and toured a local munitions factory that has been producing armaments for Ukraine amid the country's ongoing war against Russia. During his visit, Zelenskyy met with high-level Democratic Pennsylvania officials such as Gov. Josh Shapiro, Sen. Bob Casey and Rep. Matt Cartwright and expressed his gratitude "for their support."

Prior to his trip to the U.S., Zelenskyy spoke to The New Yorker and claimed Trump doesn't "really know how to stop the war."

"Trump makes political statements in his election campaign. He says he wants the war to stop. Well, we do, too.... My feeling is that Trump doesn't really know how to stop the war even if he might think he knows how," Zelenskyy told The New Yorker in the interview published Sunday, noting that he was appreciative that Trump has expressed his support. "With this war, oftentimes, the deeper you look at it the less you understand. I've seen many leaders who were convinced they knew how to end it tomorrow, and as they waded deeper into it, they realized it's not that simple."

Zelenskyy was even more critical of Vance to The New Yorker, referring to him as "too radical." In an interview with the Shawn Ryan show in mid-September, Vance recently proposed a peace deal where Russia retains the territory it has seized so that a demilitarized zone could be established along the current battle lines.

The demilitarized zone would need to be "heavily fortified so the Russians don't invade again," Vance said at the time. Such a deal could also involve the provision that Ukraine doesn't join NATO to guarantee neutrality with Russia.

"This would be an awful idea, if a person were actually going to carry it out," Zelenskyy told The New Yorker. "But there's certainly no way this could ever happen... And it wouldn't necessarily end the war, either. It's just sloganeering."

Zelenskyy went on to say that Vance's ideas are "dangerous signals," and accepting such a deal would risk other American interests abroad, such as in the Middle East and Taiwan. He further went on to hint that Vance, if elected, "should be held responsible for potentially starting a global war" if his ideas are put into practice.

"Whichever President or Vice-President raises this prospect -- that ending the war hinges on cementing the status quo, with Ukraine simply giving up its land--should be held responsible for potentially starting a global war," Zelenskyy told The New Yorker. "I don't take Vance's words seriously, because, if this were a plan, then America is headed for global conflict. It will involve Israel, Lebanon, Iran, Taiwan, China, as well as many African countries."

The Biden-Harris Administration took taxpayer funds to pay for this foreign election interference effort?

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Scranton, Pennsylvania, on Sunday to tour a munitions plant manufacturing shells for Ukraine's war effort. The trip, which used a taxpayer-funded U.S. military plane, drew sharp criticism from Republicans, with House Republican Chairwoman Elise Stefanik accusing Zelensky of using the visit to campaign for Democrats in a key swing state, calling it an "abuse of taxpayer funds."

Key Details:

Zelensky's visit to the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant was part of his U.S. trip to thank workers producing 155mm artillery shells used by Ukrainian forces.

Pennsylvania Democrats like Gov. Josh Shapiro and vulnerable Sen. Bob Casey accompanied him during the tour, sparking claims from Republicans that the visit was politically timed to boost Democrats ahead of the November election.

"It's a clear misuse of taxpayer funds," Stefanik said, accusing Zelensky of "propping up Democrats" in President Biden's home state, where Casey is in a tight reelection race against Republican Dave McCormick. Missouri Sen. Eric Schmitt echoed these concerns, stating Zelensky was "openly campaigning for Democrats" by appearing with key Democratic officials in a highly contested state.


Via Instapundit: this observation from the American Thinker.

President Trump was nearly murdered a mere week ago by a dirtbag who proclaimed a fanatical devotion to Ukraine's war. Now Zelensky has turned up to try to knock President Trump out another way? He should sit this one out.


Well, my mind's made up. The American media went from sixty years of Soviet Union/apologism to basically agitating for World War Three over some hacked emails and $150,000 in FaceBook ads.

My feelings about Ukraine had been conflicted. I didn't like the fact that this country was interfering in US politics by paying off Biden family members and getting Biden to demand the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor in return. But I really hated Russia. And I couldn't really blame the Ukrainians for participating in Democrat Party corruption -- this is the US's fault, at heart. We allow this party to shop around the world for foreign donors.

Also, I'd known some Ukrainians. One of the first Reagan-loving Republicans I knew was a Ukrainian immigrant. He preached Reagan when I was, get this, a liberal.

But now my feelings are resolved: Russia can have Ukraine, in full. The left turned its back on its historic ally the Soviet Union over a very fake "election interference" campaign; I will do the same over a very real one.

I have a preference that Ukraine not be politically interfered with by foreigners, but my much, much, stronger insistence is that the US not be politically interfered with by foreigners.

F*** Ukraine.

Posted by: Ace at 06:06 PM




Comments

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1 Please explain why the DOJ isn't bringing charges as we speak.

Oh, never mind.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:07 PM (Ud7de)

2 I'm tiring of that guy. Is it true that his wife got a USD $4,000,000 car?

Posted by: Filesystem /gp Mounted at September 24, 2024 06:08 PM (wU1J3)

3 Dictionary definition of troll, zelensky.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:08 PM (I1GXe)

4 Sick. But I'm sadly getting used to it.

Posted by: Catherine at September 24, 2024 06:08 PM (cmZ6h)

5 Sorry, this isn't about impeachment. This is about federal election tampering charges.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:08 PM (Ud7de)

6 I don't understand being "fanatically " devoted to the Ukrainian cause in the war. Supportive, sure, but fanatical devotion makes no sense

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at September 24, 2024 06:09 PM (FfSAJ)

7 But Poo Tin is LITERALLY HITLER REE!!!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 24, 2024 06:09 PM (FnneF)

8 Rootin for Pootin.

Posted by: fd at September 24, 2024 06:09 PM (uH1zk)

9 I was never on the Ukraine train. Seems I made the right choice. F*ck that guy in particular. Weasel.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 24, 2024 06:10 PM (k9OZB)

10 Where's your "place plan" munchkin?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:10 PM (I1GXe)

11 dammit, peace plan

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:11 PM (I1GXe)

12 @2 You’re wrong, it was a 5 million dollar car.

Posted by: Allen at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (TToeO)

13 Is this the first time the Babylon Bee is actually behind the headlines? 'Cause I think we saw this as DNC election interference before the editors.

IOW the absurd has overtaken events.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (aXxgO)

14 But I really hated Russia.
_____

Why? Putin is a standard run of the mill dictator (with nukes). He has interests, some of which align with US (against jihad, against China far east expansion). Why the hate? Is it the borscht?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (fS9Q1)

15 No matter how much you hate these people, you don't hate them enough.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (kgE5c)

16 I know a Russian women and spoke with her about Ukraine. She says the US media is 100 percent full of shit and the reason Putin attacked Russia is because Ukraine was attacking Russian citizens living in the Donbas. Putin had to respond to save them.

She says Zelensky is a puppet and literally a paid actor for European powers.

For what it's worth.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (Ud7de)

17 Ukraine can fuck off. Straight fuck off. If that crooked little dweeb wanted to campaign with Trump as well, fine. But now that he's taken sides in our war, I'm off the fence on his. No more money or weapons for his country. Those our OUR tax dollars he's signing, not Biden's.

Posted by: Roberto at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (QUC63)

18 That may be the most accurate headline ever at The Babylon Bee.

I'm surprised it's not posted on the "Not The Bee" section.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (BpYfr)

19 12 For the second time today, I stand corrected.

Posted by: Filesystem /gp Mounted at September 24, 2024 06:13 PM (wU1J3)

20 Piano Man Zelenskyy can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:13 PM (4Med0)

21 If Trump farted and the NYT thought it smelled like Chinese food, he'd get impeached again.

GI Schmoe with the Kung Fu Graft shows up in his goddamned obligatory combat sweatshirt from Baby GAP and I get to pay for it.

As many have said, these are the stupidest End Times ever.

I want a f'in refund.

Posted by: Sifty at September 24, 2024 06:13 PM (Y14Xw)

22 Sorry, crystal ball no workee. Come back later.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 24, 2024 06:13 PM (QSrLX)

23 You can feel badly for the Ukrainian people and still realize their country is a shithole run by a dictator who takes directions from the corrupt mandarins of the Banana Empire. The United States provoked and prolonged this war so the Ukraine could be raped and plundered from both directions. Poland should remember it has seen this movie before.

Any chance the Republican House and the GOP senators cut off funding? Not even a little one. They get crumbs from the people they actually represent, and they are still running the rape train.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 24, 2024 06:14 PM (KSNKu)

24 >>I know a Russian women and spoke with her about Ukraine. She says the US media is 100 percent full of shit and the reason Putin attacked Russia is because Ukraine was attacking Russian citizens living in the Donbas. Putin had to respond to save them.

>>She says Zelensky is a puppet and literally a paid actor for European powers.

She's partially right but the rabbit hole goes much deeper.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:14 PM (LkLld)

25
The fact that there were elections in the areas the Russians now control and the people voted to be with Russia, and it got ignored?

I'm with Vance. End it before more end up dead or Pennsylvania Goobernator Shapiro's shell kills some Russians.

I've never been more ashamed to be a resident of this state then I was when 'Josh' signed that deadly weapon.

Pathetic, but it only proves the assertion that Shapiro is dirty as hell.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2024 06:14 PM (RKVpM)

26 6 I don't understand being "fanatically " devoted to the Ukrainian cause in the war. Supportive, sure, but fanatical devotion makes no sense
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at September 24, 2024 06:09 PM (FfSAJ)

Ukraine takes it's place alongside the other nonsensical cause late term abortion. It is a religious thing. Devotion to evil. The left doesn't have causes, it has sacred cows.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 24, 2024 06:15 PM (pohLc)

27 "I hate Putin" is pretty much neocon's argument for getting into a war with Russia.

I genuinely do not get this position. It seems disturbed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 24, 2024 06:15 PM (IG4Id)

28 this will backfire

nobody who is up ukraines ass and waving uke flags on X while watching Paolo bang his wife for the 8th time this week is going to vote for trump anyway

people who are fucking fed up with this war and the US govt absolute obsession with it while they play musical chairs with their bills however...

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at September 24, 2024 06:16 PM (M7vhK)

29 >>>Democrats impeached Trump for a phone call with Zelensky. Now, they are autographing ammunition alongside Zelensky on U.S. soil. pic.twitter.com/BfO7bwQTQZ
— ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) September 23, 2024

>>>This is an impeachable offense on the part of Biden-Harris. And dangerously reckless move on Zelensky's part to campaign for Harris in a battleground state on U.S. taxpayer funds. https://t.co/IHfp7vCauk
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) September 23, 2024


Guess what? If Kammie is elected (NO!!!) her DoJ will indict Trump for buying a vote by giving a $100 bill to the woman in a PA grocery store checkout, promising if elected he'll save her lots of money on groceries. Prove me wrong!

If Trump is elected and the Dems win the House, he'll be impeached for the same action (along with 30 others they're working now to set-up Trump for). Prove me wrong!

Posted by: Gref at September 24, 2024 06:16 PM (aBgBM)

30 Please, Mr. Please don't play C-17

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2024 06:17 PM (63Dwl)

31 Personally, I think Ukraine has been the traditional country for laundering money from governments into private pockets for decades and the people who fight the hardest to keep Ukraine intact are the dirtiest fucks of them all.

And I bet it's not only money flowing through Ukraine.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:17 PM (Ud7de)

32 This is an impeachable offense on the part of Biden-Harris. And dangerously reckless move on Zelensky's part to campaign for Harris in a battleground state on U.S. taxpayer funds. https://t.co/IHfp7vCauk

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) September 23, 2024

Impeachable offense. LOL. Wonder if the Repubs have a strongly-worded letter in the works?

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at September 24, 2024 06:18 PM (AYyRz)

33 You can feel badly for the Ukrainian people and still realize their country is a shithole run by a dictator who takes directions from the corrupt mandarins of the Banana Empire.

***********

It's almost like we have something in common with that

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at September 24, 2024 06:18 PM (M7vhK)

34 Shapiro is dirty as hell. PA AG during the COVIDs and steal of 2020.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:18 PM (4Med0)

35 Lil' Z looks like a dime store knockoff of U2's Bono with those silly glasses.

And, man, is that fucker short. Got that syndrome going on, don't he?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (Q4IgG)

36 Give AlaBAMA a cigar. He gets it.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (I1GXe)

37 I will never be on the same side as Soros .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (D6PGr)

38 >>> My feelings about Ukraine had been conflicted

My conflicts:

I believe in Ukraine for Ukrainians, and it's evil of Putin to take it back just because he sees it as Russian holy land with a lot of material riches, and a way to regain some USSR glory.

I also believe in protecting America. And the Ukraine war has become Vietnam 2.0 ; everything the dems hated about Vietnam makes them salivate when it's about Ukraine. We can't destroy our country over this. It's immoral.

Zelensky is completely using us, the oligarchs in Ukraine are using us. Something has to give.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (PMERb)

39 This is the most perilous time in history for Ukrainian grift.

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (dwzrA)

40
Ace isn't exaggerating when he calls that little shit zelensky a dictactor.

zelensky CANCELLED elections in ukraine.

Maduro in Venezuela is also a dictator, but even he doesn't cancel elections. (He just steals them.)

Posted by: Soothsayer: at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (A1wUB)

41 The Republican House could have cut off funds to Ukraine a while ago, but supposedly Trump intervened and didn't come out against the bill because he thought it would hurt his election.

https://tinyurl.com/53k672bj

I wonder if Trump regrets that now seeing as Zelensky is openly campaigning against him.

Posted by: Blago at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (wMRY8)

42 I wonder, is Europe getting this Zelensky tour? Seems they'd be more receptive to this curious tactical appeal for help.

Oh, that's right, they sent him over here.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at September 24, 2024 06:21 PM (aXxgO)

43 >>Zelensky is completely using us, the oligarchs in Ukraine are using us. Something has to give.

I think when the truth of all of this is revealed we will find out the truth is the complete opposite.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:21 PM (LkLld)

44
So while jobs dry up in Pennsylvania, more voters will vote for jamala because she'll give more $upport to ukraine?

Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Soothsayer: at September 24, 2024 06:21 PM (A1wUB)

45 supposedly Trump intervened



Nuff said

Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2024 06:21 PM (IyPmt)

46 Lil' Z looks like a dime store knockoff of U2's Bono with those silly glasses.

And, man, is that fucker short. Got that syndrome going on, don't he?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (Q4IgG)

That and he can play the piano with his pea knis!

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 24, 2024 06:21 PM (89Sog)

47 Did he play the piano with his dick again?

Posted by: Ciampino - imagine having a president that did that! at September 24, 2024 06:22 PM (qfLjt)

48 And I bet it's not only money flowing through Ukraine.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:17 PM (Ud7de)


Not even with outlandish odds...'

Hundreds of thousands of dead Slavs for the grift. Pure evil.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 24, 2024 06:22 PM (KSNKu)

49 Where the hell are the mannix girls when you need one?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 24, 2024 06:22 PM (pohLc)

50 I've never seen such a open willingness to spend taxpayer money on everything BUT the American people. They're not even being shy about it now--its all out in the open.

Posted by: Crusader at September 24, 2024 06:22 PM (TN0g+)

51 If Europe fears further Russia aggression, then let them fund their own defense.

Posted by: WisRich at September 24, 2024 06:23 PM (Qgr0I)

52 This is an impeachable offense on the part of Biden-Harris. And dangerously reckless move on Zelensky's part to campaign for Harris in a battleground state on U.S. taxpayer funds. https://t.co/IHfp7vCauk

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) September 23, 2024


Yeah watch out, Jordan is gonna roll up his sleeves and Comer is gonna hold a hearing. Any minute now.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 06:23 PM (3Ope8)

53
I love that pic of those Democrat pedos smiling with bombs. They look like just like the fucking nazi faggots from 1942.

Posted by: Soothsayer: at September 24, 2024 06:23 PM (A1wUB)

54 Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (PMERb)

I think your opinion of why Putin invaded is much too simplistic and leaves out the main reasons. Reasons the MSM will not report. Another framing issue.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:23 PM (D6PGr)

55 supposedly Trump intervened



Nuff said
Posted by: It's me donna

___

Well, why didn't Trump come out against it?

He opines on everything, why not urge Republicans in Congress to vote against yet another aid bill for Ukraine?

because he wanted Republicans to pass it. he didnt want to get blamed if Ukraine fell.

That's not exactly leadership.

Posted by: Blago at September 24, 2024 06:23 PM (wMRY8)

56 The Ukrainian war would never have happened without successive US administration's pushing NATO membership to countries that border Russia. NATO membership of Ukraine was a red line to Russia.

Posted by: Archer at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (IDphi)

57 >>Zelensky is completely using us, the oligarchs in Ukraine are using us. Something has to give.

I think when the truth of all of this is revealed we will find out the truth is the complete opposite.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:21 PM


I don't know...when you use Ukie oligarchs and their country as the world's money laundromat, they gain a lot of blackmail material on you. Unless we want to drone strike the little shit, he could spill enough about our politicians to end their careers, if not their parties.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (kgE5c)

58
we already have an excess of unfunny Jewish comics. Did we need to fly one in from the literal Borscht Belt?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (x0n13)

59 I've been watching vids and updates on the Uke - Russian war and the Russians are grinding the Ukes into the ground in the Donbas. The Kursk attack is being pushed back. . The Ukes don't have much left and that is why they want to fire long range missiles into Russia proper. Ukes might not be left by our election

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (O8bOp)

60 Anybody remember McVain's big push in Georgia? When that failed they moved on to Ukraine. Too bad that fucker died before he could be exposed.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (I1GXe)

61 Did Zelensky get Secret Service protection?

Posted by: Debbie H. at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (vPplw)

62 56 The Ukrainian war would never have happened without successive US administration's pushing NATO membership to countries that border Russia. NATO membership of Ukraine was a red line to Russia.
Posted by: Archer at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (IDphi)

And I don't blame them

Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM (IyPmt)

63 Did he play the piano with his dick again?
Posted by: Ciampino - imagine having a president that did that! at September 24, 2024 06:22 PM

There's an organ joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM (4Med0)

64 And the Ukraine war has become Vietnam 2.0 ;
Posted by: LizLem


The comparison doesn't really work. Vietnam was the US trying to clean up the mess that France left during the Cold War when Soviet expansion was a very real thing. Further, the failure of Vietnam was a failure of understand the war; it wasn't a set piece battle extension of WWII that the US planners thought it was.

Everyone should read "Learning To Eat Soup With A Knife" It explains what an utter CF the US planning was.

The only comparison maybe in that the average Viet didn't care who ran the country and we insisted we knew better.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM (IG4Id)

65 60 Anybody remember McVain's big push in Georgia? When that failed they moved on to Ukraine. Too bad that fucker died before he could be exposed.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (I1GXe)


See also his and Hillary's gun-running scheme to Syria that resulted in Benghazi and 4 dead Yanks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM (x0n13)

66
Did Zelensky get Secret Service protection?
Posted by: Debbie H.


I noticed that, too.
Sure looks like it.

Posted by: Soothsayer: at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM (A1wUB)

67 I don't know...when you use Ukie oligarchs and their country as the world's money laundromat, they gain a lot of blackmail material on you. Unless we want to drone strike the little shit, he could spill enough about our politicians to end their careers, if not their parties.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2024 06:24 PM (kgE5c)


It is a given the USG will kill Zelensky at some point. He seems blithely unaware of it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM (KSNKu)

68 By the way...did you guys see this? A Haitian group in Ohio has filed citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance. Unfreaking real. Link goes to ABC news.

https://tinyurl.com/ucvehx8e

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:26 PM (iODuv)

69 By the way...did you guys see this? A Haitian group in Ohio has filed citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance. Unfreaking real. Link goes to ABC news.

https://tinyurl.com/ucvehx8e
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:26 PM (iODuv)

ACLU attorneys?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (D6PGr)

70
Anyone who drills down into the murder case that Shapiro and Associates conspired to squash knows he is as terrible a human being as exists on this planet. If I was the father of the murdered girl I would be like Captain Bligh as he entered the lifeboat on 'Mutiny on the Bounty'.

"No matter what corner of the world, I will be one step behind you, hangman's noose in hand." Close as I remember.

Shapiro being a shit he proved again this week. It could end up firing up enough outrage that Pennsylvania turns blood red in November.

Maybe it's his revenge on Kamala and Associates.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (RKVpM)

71 68 By the way...did you guys see this? A Haitian group in Ohio has filed citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance. Unfreaking real. Link goes to ABC news.

Normally the courts would toss this out but Trump so......

Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (IyPmt)

72 Sure does seem like some 80 year old assholes want a nuclear war with Russia.

If Ukraine fires missiles into Russia, all bets are off. Putin has said as much. He considers all of this foreign attacks.

Just like Bush Jr said. You help our enemies, you are our enemy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (Ud7de)

73 PAY ME

Posted by: Z-Dog at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (v0R5T)

74 >>> I think when the truth of all of this is revealed we will find out the truth is the complete opposite.

I'm confused; are you saying Piano dick is the good guy? His houses and boats say otherwise. Those were clearly paid for by our money. It's corruption all the way down and we're being used. By Ukraine and by our own government.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (fLKRe)

75 Note that Zelinsky has never denied conspiring to assassinate Trump.
;P

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (Tw+JN)

76 F*** Ukraine.

---------------

Can we haz Flaming Z-Man Skull Draped in Ukrainian Flag?

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at September 24, 2024 06:28 PM (ptrID)

77 ...He further went on to hint that Vance, if elected, "should be held responsible for potentially starting a global war" if his ideas are put into practice...


Yeah, totally!


Posted by: joe 'minor incursion' biden at September 24, 2024 06:28 PM (NMT5x)

78 I believe in Ukraine for Ukrainians, and it's evil of Putin to take it back just because he sees it as Russian holy land with a lot of material riches, and a way to regain some USSR glory.
______

Ukraine east of the Donbass is largely ethnic Russian. The borders were drawn up by Kruschev (IIRC) without any particular regard for any possible consequences, it was the USSR after all and every one was the glorious new Sovier man and unburdened by what has been with regard to ethnic background. My preference would have been that Ukraine treated all their citizens equally and that the ethnic Russians in the Donbass didn't agitate (or feel the need to) agitate for autonomy or return of the Donabass to Russia. But that ship has sailed.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:28 PM (fS9Q1)

79 If Ukraine fires missiles into Russia, all bets are off. Putin has said as much. He considers all of this foreign attacks.

Just like Bush Jr said. You help our enemies, you are our enemy.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (Ud7de)

October surprise, maybe.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:29 PM (4Med0)

80 >>I don't know...when you use Ukie oligarchs and their country as the world's money laundromat, they gain a lot of blackmail material on you. Unless we want to drone strike the little shit, he could spill enough about our politicians to end their careers, if not their parties.

There is no doubt the dirt that both sides have on each other is enough to build a mountain the the moon but the power in this relationship has always emanated from DC.

There's little doubt in my mind that much if not most of the blinding hate toward Trump from the uniparty and the deep state that started with the Russia hoax is over the Ukraine issue which is the cornerstone of a much larger foreign policy goal. Ukraine is an important pawn but our bad guys are running the show.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:29 PM (LkLld)

81 Archer: "The Ukrainian war would never have happened without successive US administration's pushing NATO membership to countries that border Russia. NATO membership of Ukraine was a red line to Russia."

I think that's a pretty good synopsis of the genesis. I'm sure it's a lot longer in developing and lots of nuance layered with competing interests, but fundamentally, that was the contemporary trigger.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at September 24, 2024 06:29 PM (aXxgO)

82 34 Shapiro is dirty as hell. PA AG during the COVIDs and steal of 2020.

Hes also the ass who ignored the law to tar Bill Cosby so badly that the liberal PA Supreme Court reversed the conviction since charges should never even have been filed let alone prosecuted.

Not saying it was a test run for alvin bragg, since it was the same plan used to take out an Alaskan senator

Posted by: Bensdad00 at September 24, 2024 06:30 PM (F/35S)

83 How many southern border walls could we have built with what we spent on Ukraine?

Remember Democrats saying it was just too much money and it would be a complete waste?

Posted by: Blago at September 24, 2024 06:30 PM (wMRY8)

84

Parody, RIP

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (rj6Yv)

85 Still Rootin' for Putin over here, boss.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (wBaIH)

86 By the way...did you guys see this? A Haitian group in Ohio has filed citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance. Unfreaking real. Link goes to ABC news.

https://tinyurl.com/ucvehx8e
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:26 PM (iODuv)

ACLU attorneys?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (D6PGr)

Info in the link.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (iODuv)

87 Where the hell are the mannix girls when you need one?
Posted by: Xipe Totec
......

I was hoping for a busty bikini brunette or two earlier today.

Posted by: wth at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (v0R5T)

88 There is the "we are the (evil) conquistadors" versus the "We must remain the global superpower" lines of thought.

I'd like US to remain the global power, but align with nations that push liberty, not slavery/communism. We would provide a lot of intel and other support, but free nations provide the on the ground forces.

This is still (mostly) true in Israel, but Ukraine was more a war of aggression, chosen by US pushing Ukraine into the NATO thang. And because of evil globalists, we have India and Russia aligning more with China ... and other countries in South America.

It seems to me our globalists want to destroy American (and Western) Liberties First, then maybe they have some plan, idk. But they really hate "US" the most, for daring to challenge Their Hegemony. ("They" being the oligarchs/plutocrats, whatever pagan egomaniacs are partaking).

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (Cus5s)

89 Mannix is probably pulling people over on the freeway for speeding right now.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (Ud7de)

90 Mannix is probably pulling people over on the freeway for speeding right now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
......

I'm pretty sure he's not a cop.

Posted by: wth at September 24, 2024 06:32 PM (v0R5T)

91 One corrupt oligarchy propping up corrupt oligarch..

Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2024 06:32 PM (PCK5/)

92 ACLU attorneys?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM


Subcontinental commie.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2024 06:32 PM (kgE5c)

93 The kiffness also posted that he's going to stop singing the song so much bc it keeps running through his head and keeping him up at night, lol.

Posted by: PJU at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (RRCAT)

94 91 Mannix is probably pulling people over on the freeway for speeding right now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
......

I'm pretty sure he's not a cop.


that's what he *wants* you to think

Posted by: anachronda at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (sGtp+)

95

Ukraine is dirty, dirty, dirty.

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (rj6Yv)

96 Mannix is probably pulling people over on the freeway for speeding right now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
......

I'm pretty sure he's not a cop.
Posted by: wth at September 24, 2024 06:32 PM


That's exactly what a cop would say!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (kgE5c)

97 I'm so naive. I used to believe that millionaires and billionaires used their own money to donate to politicians. Maybe some do a little, but by and large it's our money, just laundered through all these schemes and grifts.

Like a lot of things, I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

I should write a book: Women Don't Fart and Other Myths I Used to Believe.

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (NMT5x)

98 I mean, really slow news day, eh ?

Posted by: jsg at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (hBlxk)

99 When we kill the Grecian Formula hair, and eat his heart, he will know Magua wiped out his seed.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at September 24, 2024 06:33 PM (wBaIH)

100 16 I know a Russian women and spoke with her about Ukraine. She says the US media is 100 percent full of shit and the reason Putin attacked Russia is because Ukraine was attacking Russian citizens living in the Donbas. Putin had to respond to save them.


She says Zelensky is a puppet and literally a paid actor for European powers.

--------

I know that last sentence is 100% true. It really can't be argued. The first part, I'm about 95% certain it's true.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (JeYYB)

101 So again, little Z has his "war costume" on and can't wear a suit whether it is in front of Congress or to shill for Democrats. I don't know why this bothers me so much when obviously there is so much else to be bothered about, but it does. Disrespect - there it is.

Posted by: Cheri at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (oiNtH)

102 I was hoping for a busty bikini brunette or two earlier today.

Posted by: wth at September 24, 2024 06:31 PM (v0R5T)

Here ya go...https://tinyurl.com/4p72cvh4

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (3Ope8)

103 Methinks that Zelenskyy is all-in on Commie-la's election.

Posted by: Big Daddy D-Thrax at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (a3Q+t)

104 Sebastian, I'm a Moron. I totally admit there is so much to unpack, both in the Ukrainian/Russian relations and history, and our interference and our cooperation with both countries. It's complex and dense and I don't pretend to understand everything.

I do know it's messed up, and something has to give. And I know that for Putin, getting that land back is deeply personal to him.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (V/ykC)

105 I think it is the shameless hypocrisy that bothers me the most.

Posted by: Ella Emhoff at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (RIvkX)

106 By the way...did you guys see this? A Haitian group in Ohio has filed citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance. Unfreaking real. Link goes to ABC news.

https://tinyurl.com/ucvehx8e
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:26 PM (iODuv)

ACLU attorneys?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:27 PM (D6PGr)

Was that lawsuit paid for by the Trump/Vance 2024 campaign?

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (rj6Yv)

107 Subsequent to the Ukrainian coup in 2014 , where previously the coup leaders had rejected an offer of international monitored elections , the first thing they did was to outlaw the use of the Russian language in all manners.

I believe they poked the Bear intentionally to start this war knowing that their US connections would provide billions in aid which some would be distributed to the key players.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (D6PGr)

108 "F*** Ukraine"

Not even with Hunter's dick....

Posted by: jsg at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (hBlxk)

109 So, is Z man going to have to pay us back for all the munitions and support and cash money we have given him over the last three years?

Will he have to provide a spreadsheet detailing how he has spent the billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars given?

I'm so sick of his green crew neck shirts. He's a very rich man, becoming richer while his country gets leveled. The money laundering alone is reason for the Deep State here to want to protect him, no matter the cost.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (W2Pud)

110 There's little doubt in my mind that much if not most of the blinding hate toward Trump from the uniparty and the deep state that started with the Russia hoax is over the Ukraine issue which is the cornerstone of a much larger foreign policy goal. Ukraine is an important pawn but our bad guys are running the show.
Posted by: JackStraw
_____

A significant clue was when Vindman complained that Trump was going against 'our policy'. When someone other than the president directs foreign policy, we have a problem.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (fS9Q1)

111 98 You have made my day.
Ace, make that man a COB!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (wBaIH)

112 What are the safety glasses for ? He thinks that if something goes kaboom, the glasses will protect him? Just another prop.

Posted by: Cheri at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (oiNtH)

113 /nasty girl sock off

Posted by: San Franspycho at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (RIvkX)

114 (Dons tin foil hat)

The left was in love with Russia all the way through the 2012 election (see Obama's hot mic comment about having more flexibility after the election to the Russian government official). It wasn't until after the 2012 election that the anti-Russian articles were coming out (and even before Trump through his hat in the ring). I think the powers that follow the WEF (Western Europe, US, and the like) and are all on board with the Great Reset/New World Order/"You will own nothing and be happy" invited Russia to the party, and Putin gave them a big fat Nyet (As a side not, I think China says they're in, but are just waiting for the west to slit their own throat and take over). Ever since then, the western powers have antagonized Russia through the means of Ukraine (who said tak to the WEF) ever since, to the point of trying to spark WWIII.

(Removes TF hat)

Hey guys, what's new?

Posted by: Crazy at September 24, 2024 06:35 PM (EES2L)

115 So again, little Z has his "war costume" on and can't wear a suit whether it is in front of Congress or to shill for Democrats. I don't know why this bothers me so much when obviously there is so much else to be bothered about, but it does. Disrespect - there it is.
Posted by: Cheri at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM


I'm a little disappointed that he's not in an Adidas track suit with a lit cigarette in his hand. Legions of gopniks weep...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2024 06:36 PM (kgE5c)

116 There's an organ joke in there somewhere.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:25 PM


Longer pipes produce a deeper and richer experience.

Posted by: Big Daddy D-Thrax at September 24, 2024 06:36 PM (a3Q+t)

117 She says Zelensky is a puppet and literally a paid actor for European powers.

--------

I know that last sentence is 100% true. It really can't be argued. The first part, I'm about 95% certain it's true.
Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (JeYYB)


Well, of course Zelensky is a Yooropean puppet. That's where his "retirement fund" is stashed.

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:36 PM (rj6Yv)

118 If you hum a few bars, he'll play it on the piano.

Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2024 06:36 PM (9SBJU)

119 The US started this war. Nuland was the instigator .

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:37 PM (I1GXe)

120 If Zelensky is controlled by European powers why has the US contributed more than all of the EU countries combined to the Ukraine war effort?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:37 PM (LkLld)

121 What are the safety glasses for ? He thinks that if something goes kaboom, the glasses will protect him?

If he's going to the same parties I am, they're very helpful.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at September 24, 2024 06:38 PM (33Cgj)

122 Was that lawsuit paid for by the Trump/Vance 2024 campaign?
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (rj6Yv)

Did you guys read the article?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (iODuv)

123 The only upside here is that Ivan is getting his ass beaten off, being shown as the 3rd world military they are. The decades of corruption in all ranks is showing. Ukraine has been the beneficiary of NATO training and they've paid attention, it shows. Russia will be a long time recovering, if they ever do, without a drastic change in all facets of their military structure.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (hKoQL)

124 That lil' Z can play piano with his dick makes him 10x more useful that anyone in our Congress.

As they have no dicks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (Q4IgG)

125 112 The goggles! They do nothing!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (wBaIH)

126 63 Did he play the piano with his dick again?
Posted by: Ciampino - imagine having a president that did that! at September 24, 2024 06:22 PM

There's an organ joke in there somewhere.


there was a music place in the mall near a former domicile. every now and then, they'd put up a sign in the mall offering "adult organ classes". cracked us up every time.

Posted by: anachronda at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (sGtp+)

127 If Zelensky is controlled by European powers why has the US contributed more than all of the EU countries combined to the Ukraine war effort?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:37 PM (LkLld)

Because Ukraine is where legislator campaign cash from all over the world is laundered, starched, and folded.

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (rj6Yv)

128 The Babylon Bee is a national treasure.

Posted by: Cheri at September 24, 2024 06:40 PM (oiNtH)

129 >>>https://x.com/AlexanderSoros/status/1838662515124789692

His home looks sterile and ugly, like his soul.

There was a diff pic of Alex hosting political lizard people with Huma, and she was wearing this bright orange dress. In Kamala's interview with Oprah, Oprah was wearing the same bright orange color. Like, the exact shade.

Two people wearing a currently fashionable color isn't weird. But if keeps popping up, my brain is going to want to see if there's a pattern, because it's dumb that way.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 06:40 PM (V/ykC)

130 "Ukraine" is currently about the size of Texas. When the war is finally over, the south and east will be part of Russia. The Russians need to capture every inch of the coastline, whether they want to or not, to keep their Black Sea ports safe from NATO mischief.

Poland, Hungary, and Romania will grab chunks of the western part that are ethnically part of their people.

The remaining country of "Ukraine" centered around Kiev, containing ethnic Ukrainians, will be about the size of Ohio.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 24, 2024 06:40 PM (cLUev)

131 Who does this Zelensky guy think he is? Only Israel gets to interfere in our elections!

Posted by: Eric Dale at September 24, 2024 06:41 PM (Vtyv1)

132 Russia will be a long time recovering, if they ever do, without a drastic change in all facets of their military structure.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA
_____

All is going according to plan.
‐ China

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:41 PM (fS9Q1)

133 Greg Price @greg_price11 Sep 23
Kamala's campaign is using fake news headlines from a liberal dark money funded organization that does political work on behalf of Democrats by operating phony news outlets.

Here's how Soros funded propaganda moves in real time:

Earlier today, Kamala HQ and Kamala Wins posted a headline earlier claiming that the Polish Community in PA supposedly endorsed her. But it turned out to just be a letter that was written by a bunch of partisan Democrat politicians.

The letter was published by some news outlet called "Keystone Newsroom." It sounds like a local PA media outlet. But in reality, it's part of Courier Newsroom, which is a Democrat dark money funded media project founded by Democrat operatives that operates websites claiming to be news outlets in key swing states.

The idea is to make them seem like non-partisan local outlets when in reality they exist to give glowing coverage to Democrats.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (CEzQx)

134 Zelensky is scheduled to meet with Trump.

I don't understand why he wouldn't just push away that question. He's setting himself up for possibly having a bad time.

Posted by: Harun at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (IuIym)

135 Greg Price @greg_price11 Sep 23
In addition, Courier Newsroom also spends millions of dollars on targeted ads on social media and doesn't have to register with the FEC as a political group even though their explicit purpose is to elect Democrats.

George Soros, Reid Hoffman, and other liberal billionaires all fund Courier Newsroom. They are doing blatant political activities on behalf of Democrats while registered as a tax exempt organization.

Should be an FEC violation.

https://tinyurl.com/5fedj8t5
screencaps

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (CEzQx)

136 IRONGRAMPA, love ya but Putin is laughing his ass off as we pour more billions we don't have down this sewer

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (I1GXe)

137 Wait. Does Zelensky have a weather machine, too?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (dg+HA)

138 >>> 122 Was that lawsuit paid for by the Trump/Vance 2024 campaign?
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (rj6Yv)

Did you guys read the article?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (iODuv)

Wait, you mean there's content there???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (FnneF)

139 Robby Starbuck @robbystarbuck Sep 23 Replying to @harris_wins
No, she was endorsed by 3 Democrat reps who happen to be Polish. The Polish community were big supporters of Trump in 2016 and 2020.

Shaun Maguire @shaunmmaguire Sep 23 Replying to @harris_wins
What is your source on this? Who speaks for the Polish Community in Pennsylvania?

Savannah @BasedSavannah Sep 23 Replying to @harris_wins
This is an absolute LIE. One man gave his endorsement. Michael Blichasz does NOT speak for 800K Polish Pennsylvanians. This needs @communitynotes.

Dweller @One_Way_Home Sep 23 Replying to @harris_wins
Kamala and the “Polish” community....
https://tinyurl.com/ybdsphaw
IMAGE

Related:
DC_Draino @DC_Draino
Look at this crowd near where Trump is visiting in PA today

You’ve never seen this once during Biden & Kamala’s term

Yet you see it almost everywhere Trump goes

https://tinyurl.com/463yjf9t
15 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 24, 2024 06:42 PM (CEzQx)

140 131 Who does this Zelensky guy think he is? Only Israel gets to interfere in our elections!
Posted by: Eric Dale at September 24, 2024 06:41 PM (Vtyv1)



Yeah. So crafty they installed a regime that is openly Islamist and anti-Semitic.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (x0n13)

141 Was that lawsuit paid for by the Trump/Vance 2024 campaign?
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:34 PM (rj6Yv)

Did you guys read the article?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:39 PM (iODuv)

Oh, I read the article. The ACLU must have received a big donation from the Trump/Vance 2024 for filing that lawsuit.

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)

142 " I know a Russian women and spoke with her about Ukraine. She says the US media is 100 percent full of shit and the reason Putin attacked Russia is because Ukraine was attacking Russian citizens living in the Donbas. Putin had to respond to save them."

But what was Russia's involvement in pushing those "Russian citizens" into conflict? idk, what do "our experts" say on this?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (Cus5s)

143 Putin and Xi giggle themselves to sleep every night.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:44 PM (4Med0)

144 136 IRONGRAMPA, love ya but Putin is laughing his ass off as we pour more billions we don't have down this sewer
Posted by: Ben Had
______

This is also part of the plan.
- China

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:44 PM (fS9Q1)

145 I have a preference that Ukraine not be politically interfered with by foreigners
__________

That seems to be their lot, and always has been. Turks, Russians, Poles, Lithuanians, Mongols...

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 24, 2024 06:45 PM (Dm8we)

146 There are no good guys in this war....I just am tired of my tax dollars being spent in the slaughter..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2024 06:45 PM (YxrfU)

147 132 Russia will be a long time recovering, if they ever do, without a drastic change in all facets of their military structure.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA
_____

All is going according to plan.
‐ China
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:41 PM (fS9Q1)



"I give you velly best Broferd!"

- - XI

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 06:45 PM (x0n13)

148 Who does this Zelensky guy think he is? Only Israel gets to interfere in our elections!
Posted by: Eric Dale at September 24, 2024 06:41 PM (Vtyv1)

You mean like the US / Obama giving support to an an Israeli Anti -Netanyahu PAC ?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:45 PM (D6PGr)

149
"I need bullets, not a ride"

Looks like he got both, and a couple hundred billion dollars as well.

The I.C. wants Russia out of the great game for good. Considering the trouble they've caused for the last couple hundred years I'm sympathetic.

Posted by: Auspex at September 24, 2024 06:45 PM (j4U/Z)

150 Eric Dale, go piss up rope. Your stupidity is showing.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:46 PM (I1GXe)

151 This is also part of the plan.
- China
Posted by: Chuck Martel


888x this.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 24, 2024 06:46 PM (IG4Id)

152 The I.C. wants Russia out of the great game for good. Considering the trouble they've caused for the last couple hundred years I'm sympathetic.
Posted by: Auspex at September 24, 2024 06:45 PM (j4U/Z)

LOLOLOL That's not how it works.

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (rj6Yv)

153 143 Putin and Xi giggle themselves to sleep every night.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 24, 2024 06:44 PM (4Med0)



Somehow I picture Mayor Pete and Chasten. Eww.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (x0n13)

154 Oh, I read the article. The ACLU must have received a big donation from the Trump/Vance 2024 for filing that lawsuit.
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)

It was another local Civil Rights firm that filed it. I couldn’t find any cooperation between them and the ACLU.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (D6PGr)

155 I don't see Ivan getting his ass beaten off, rather than just grinding down his enemy in the normal soviet fashion. Third world military? Maybe not. They've shown that they're pretty reactive and adaptable to the tactics used by 'lil Z and the CIA.

The rest of the remarks said about them could be applied equally to us. We're in no shape or in any way prepared to prosecute a war like that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (3Ope8)

156 The Junta is so desperate to retain power, they've forgotten, or don't care, every move they make is closely watched by foreign powers.

How is this not provoking things further with Russia? The same people who scream at Israel think nothing of sticking their thumb in the eye of Russia.

It's almost unbelievable how rotten the power structure in DC is. Are there no adults left who might tell Kamala this isn't a good look, in any way shape or form?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (tT6L1)

157 Oh, I read the article. The ACLU must have received a big donation from the Trump/Vance 2024 for filing that lawsuit.
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)

Where did you come up with that?

"The Haitian Bridge Alliance files the suit through their attorney Subodh Chandra of the Cleveland based Chandra Law Firm".

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (iODuv)

158 Zelensky just made a very big bet - that Trump will not be re-elected.

Because if he re-elected, he's going to hang Zelensky out to dry.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2024 06:48 PM (zeX4K)

159 Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)

That said I understood your snark.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:48 PM (D6PGr)

160 Why? Putin is a standard run of the mill dictator (with nukes). He has interests, some of which align with US (against jihad, against China far east expansion). Why the hate? Is it the borscht?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:12 PM (fS9Q1)
_________________

It was his not letting faggots adopt Russian infants.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2024 06:49 PM (zeX4K)

161 All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Posted by: Big Penguin at September 24, 2024 06:49 PM (a3Q+t)

162 Russia will be a long time recovering, if they ever do,

They've excised the Azov cancer and the bioweapons labs. They'll 'recover' from victory just fine.

Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2024 06:49 PM (D9hgC)

163 >>A significant clue was when Vindman complained that Trump was going against 'our policy'. When someone other than the president directs foreign policy, we have a problem.

That was a clue alright. Also impeaching Trump over a harmless phone call to Ukraine. Also the fact that the fake dirt that took down Manafort along with a lot of the fake dirt that almost took down Trump came from Ukraine. And on and on.

During McCain's funeral, the first one, he had a very interesting person attended, Petro Poroshenko the former president of Ukraine. McCain was the point person in Congress working with Biden to rebuild Ukraine after we ran the 2014 color revolution. Shockingly, McCain also was one of the people given the fake Steele dossier that he then handed to the FBI.

Oh and long before Steele was writing fake dossiers to take down opponents of the US foreign policy in Ukraine, he was writing intelligence reports for the US State Department. On Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 06:50 PM (LkLld)

164 IRONGRAMPA: "Ukraine has been the beneficiary of NATO training and they've paid attention, it shows."

I think it has more to do with Ukranian ability to adapt in asymmetric warfare. It's revolutionary and the US had better take note.

The Soviets remain mired in old war tactics. Ukraine hasn't - and I guess NATO could have been their encyclopedia, I dunno - but the relatively resource light Ukraine has used tech and drone warfare like no one before. Extremely cost-effective and very powerful against fixed heavy assets. Their rate of attrition is much lower than Russia's.

I'm almost thinking that had "we" not helped subsidize Russian aggression with "our" energy policy (and especially the Europeans'), Putin wouldn't have the bank account to sustain this war.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at September 24, 2024 06:50 PM (aXxgO)

165 Oh, I read the article. The ACLU must have received a big donation from the Trump/Vance 2024 for filing that lawsuit.
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)

It was another local Civil Rights firm that filed it. I couldn’t find any cooperation between them and the ACLU.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (D6PGr)

"ACLU?" Doesn't matter. It helps Trump anyways.

Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:50 PM (rj6Yv)

166 The I.C. wants Russia out of the great game for good. Considering the trouble they've caused for the last couple hundred years I'm sympathetic.
_____

That our low IQ I.C. wants it makes it suspect. They should read up on Machiavelli before they make anymore stupid decisions.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 24, 2024 06:51 PM (fS9Q1)

167 Russia is not 35 TRILLION dollars in debt.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:51 PM (I1GXe)

168 Its not like Zelensky had any choice in the matter, then or now. If he wants weapons to continue to fight to maintain his country's territorial integrity from invading Russians after its oil and ports, he has to say what Biden wants him to say.

After the election, I imagine he also has reams of documents and receipts showing Biden family corruption going back a decade, that he will happily share with the incoming Trump administration.

Zelensky doesn't want a taxi he wants to fight, I can respect that, and I understand he is between a corrupt rock and a corrupt hard place. Good luck everybody..

Posted by: Sixiron at September 24, 2024 06:51 PM (c4Wfm)

169 I agree, Ace. I pretty much would be happy to see Ukraine get its ass kicked now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2024 06:51 PM (S6gqv)

170 It's almost unbelievable how rotten the power structure in DC is. Are there no adults left who might tell Kamala this isn't a good look, in any way shape or form?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (tT6L1)
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I don't think they care. They believe--with considerable justification--that every other government on Earth is just as corrupt and rotten as they are. They are all part of a very evil, wicked club and we aren't in it. They delight in rubbing our faces in their vile debauchery.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 24, 2024 06:52 PM (BpYfr)

171 I believe in Ukraine for Ukrainians, and it's evil of Putin to take it back just because he sees it as Russian holy land with a lot of material riches, and a way to regain some USSR glory.

I also believe in protecting America. And the Ukraine war has become Vietnam 2.0 ; everything the dems hated about Vietnam makes them salivate when it's about Ukraine. We can't destroy our country over this. It's immoral.

Zelensky is completely using us, the oligarchs in Ukraine are using us. Something has to give.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 06:19 PM (PMERb)


I expect that after Trump is sworn-in, one of the things he does that afternoon is call Z-Man. To tell him, "Hey, we know all the accounts around the world where you've stashed money skimmed from the billions Dumb Joe sent you. Be a real shame if all those accounts were locked or just vanished, wouldn't it? Make a deal, buddy, or you'll be broke before you know it."

Posted by: Gref at September 24, 2024 06:52 PM (aBgBM)

172 I don't think they care. They believe--with considerable justification--that every other government on Earth is just as corrupt and rotten as they are. They are all part of a very evil, wicked club and we aren't in it. They delight in rubbing our faces in their vile debauchery.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 24, 2024 06:52 PM (BpYfr)
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Fair and depressing observation.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 06:53 PM (tT6L1)

173 If Putin wanted to he could flatten Kiev with conventional bombing. Just like we could have done to Hanoi ( we had them on the verge of surrender with the bombing we were doing . And it would have worked if it wasn’t for those damn kids)

IIRC , only 10% of our military participated in Vietnam.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:53 PM (D6PGr)

174 Didn't Russia start backing the rubel with gold?

I don't know what is really happening between Russia and Ukraine, except our country is getting ass raped paying for it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2024 06:54 PM (JeYYB)

175 Z Man is playing his role to perfection. There was a peace plan on the table, which I think Z man was party to, and DC scuttled it.

Z Man may be squirreling away millions if not billions, but, he survives only as long as he does what he's told.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 06:55 PM (tT6L1)

176
Considering the centuries-long history of Russia slaughtering Ukes and repeatedly invading Ukeland, I had serious sympathy for Ukraine.

And then the Ukes pissed it away by being the Western World's cash laundromat and fucking around with our elections.

Both nations are fucking worthless, with the only Slav exports worth a damn being petroleum, 70 year old assault rifles and strippers who do butt stuff.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 24, 2024 06:55 PM (y9nCu)

177 Zalensky can pucker up and kiss my butt.
Fu*k him and the horse he rode in on.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 24, 2024 06:56 PM (W/lyH)

178 It was another local Civil Rights firm that filed it. I couldn’t find any cooperation between them and the ACLU.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 06:47 PM (D6PGr)

"ACLU?" Doesn't matter. It helps Trump anyways.
Posted by: mrp at September 24, 2024 06:50 PM (rj6Yv)

We can thank zombie Ted 'the swimmer' Kennedy for most of this. Close the border for 40 years, as was done in 1925 and be done with it.

We're closed. Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 24, 2024 06:56 PM (iODuv)

179 we already have an excess of unfunny Jewish comics. Did we need to fly one in from the literal Borscht Belt?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Where have you gone, Morty Gunty! We need you!

Posted by: Corbett Monica at September 24, 2024 06:57 PM (CV8a5)

180 Allright guys, can we please leave the horses out of fuck them too dept. These asshole don't deserve a horse.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 06:58 PM (I1GXe)

181 Haitian Bridge Alliance files the suit through their attorney Subodh Chandra of the Cleveland based Chandra Law Firm".

It's wogs all the way down.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 24, 2024 06:58 PM (xeH36)

182 @177 That’s not the part of you he wants to kiss.

Posted by: Allen at September 24, 2024 06:59 PM (kiEWv)

183 I knew work would go to 7pm now long drive home

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2024 06:59 PM (2LcDi)

184 I just think Ukraine is one of the biggest scams of all time.

Biggest: Chinese Lung AIDS.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:00 PM (PDf99)

185 >>Because Ukraine is where legislator campaign cash from all over the world is laundered, starched, and folded.

Always has been. The owner of Burisma also used to own a bank called PrivatBank. It was THE go to source for international money laundering in Ukraine. In fact, it's where much of the money that went to the Biden crime family from Burisma flowed from.

One of the last things Biden did before Trump took office was to tell the Ukrainians to have the government takeover PrivatBank so Trump would be unable to access the records.

The CIA, Soros and other US agencies ran the 2014 color revolution in Ukraine that toppled a duly elected government that was steering toward Russia and away from NATO and installed a pro-western government. We weren't about to give that up to Europeans. The CIA has been running it ever since. Putin knows this. It's why he took Crimea and it's why the people in the Donbas wanted closer ties to Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russian.

Then Trump came into office and Ukraine completely fell out of the news for most of the next 4 years. Biden fixed that with his push for NATO membership and here we are.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 07:00 PM (LkLld)

186 169 I agree, Ace. I pretty much would be happy to see Ukraine get its ass kicked now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2024 06:51 PM (S6gqv)



I have no love lost for either Russia or Ukraine. My dad's side of the family came from the latter and those that didn't make it here at the turn of the 20th century were either butchered in Ukrainian pogroms or were slaughtered by Einsatzgruppe D.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:00 PM (x0n13)

187 "I don't understand being "fanatically " devoted to the Ukrainian cause in the war."

Because the 3 letter agencies that control just about everything created the conditions in Ukraine which became the reason Putin invaded. The color revolution, NATO at Russia's doorstep, the secret bio labs, the money laundering, the spy craft, the sex slavery, etc.
That's why these evil turds are all in for war.
Just my opinion, of course.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 24, 2024 07:01 PM (MeG8a)

188 already have an excess of unfunny Jewish comics

Has zombie Lenny Bruce entered the chat?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 24, 2024 07:01 PM (xeH36)

189 Just learned that Trump has received the coveted Danica Patrick endorsement.

Cool ... and I didn't know that she resides a little south of me somewhere in the Phoenix Valley -- probably S
Paradise Valley in Scottsdale.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (rWYlb)

190 Can you find some more stories from MSN on things Trump did? Because I totally believe them.

War would have been over long ago if Boris Johnson hadn't scuttled the talks

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (MpVUb)

191 JackStraw, great summation.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (I1GXe)

192 188 already have an excess of unfunny Jewish comics

Has zombie Lenny Bruce entered the chat?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 24, 2024 07:01 PM (xeH36)

Allan Sherman to the white courtesy phone.
The white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (PDf99)

193 Aetius451AD Work Laptop: "Biggest: Chinese Lung AIDS."

I dunno. I'm pretty big and unburdened by truth.

Posted by: Kamalamadingdong at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (aXxgO)

194 It's like you people haven't even read the Constitution.

The "Trump Said Pussy" Clause makes all acts to defeat Trump legal.
Any silly law that gets in the way of defeating Trump is void.

That's right dum-dums: Read your Constitution.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (BWPTx)

195 I dunno. I'm pretty big and unburdened by truth.
Posted by: Kamalamadingdong at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (aXxgO)

Yeah, but you're not fooling anyone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:03 PM (PDf99)

196 Weft, my comparison of the Ukraine war to Vietnam is less an apples to apples comparison, and more of using the left's moral argument about war against them. (If it's far too simplistic, well, that's the left for you.)

It's not our war to fight, even if it's to preserve "democracy" around the world
Lack of clear victory
Escalating cost of the war
War is bad and we need to be doves, not eagles

The moral reasons they screamed for having us pull out of Vietnam, the left has used the opposite to justify staying in Ukraine. Three major differences are that we don't have a draft for it of our own people--yet--the media hasn't soured on the war yet, and the congressional purse hasn't soured on it yet. The latter two I don't know if they ever will. They seem to get off on it.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 07:03 PM (Eng1Z)

197 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 24, 2024 06:55 PM (y9nCu)

The part that made me accept some of the military aid initially was Russia’s history of aiding our enemies by proxy in Korea and Vietnam. Putin was part of the system that did it even though he didn’t start with the KGB until 1975.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:03 PM (D6PGr)

198 And of course this was done to try an goad Trump or Vance into saying anything so they could go into high dungeon mode about "attacking foreign leaders and weakening our alliances!!!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 24, 2024 07:04 PM (BWPTx)

199 Has Archimedes weighed in on the oppressed Ukrainians yet?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:05 PM (v6JzV)

200 Anybody remember McVain's big push in Georgia?

==


nnnnno...what was it ??

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:06 PM (V13WU)

201 People seem to have forgotten that Zelensky was listed with 12 off shore companies in the Pandora Papers. When he took office he removed himself from those companies......(drum roll) .....and turned them over to his wife.

He's a piece of shit like every other politician. I'm pretty sure he, also, purchased a choice piece of real estate in London in the last few years.

Posted by: Orson at September 24, 2024 07:06 PM (dIske)

202 I've never been more ashamed to be a resident of this state then I was when 'Josh' signed that deadly weapon.

Pathetic, but it only proves the assertion that Shapiro is dirty as hell.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2024 06:14 PM (RKVpM)

Putin now has just cause for whacking Shapiro.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 24, 2024 07:06 PM (75bSB)

203 179 we already have an excess of unfunny Jewish comics. Did we need to fly one in from the literal Borscht Belt?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Where have you gone, Morty Gunty! We need you!
Posted by: Corbett Monica at September 24, 2024 06:57 PM (CV8a5)


He and Woody Allen are fellow alumni of Midwood HS. To our great shame so is Hakeem Jeffries.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:06 PM (x0n13)

204 Can you find some more stories from MSN on things Trump did? Because I totally believe them.

War would have been over long ago if Boris Johnson hadn't scuttled the talks
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2024 07:02 PM (MpVUb)

I think Britain is far mor invested in Ukraine and anti Putin than even we are. At least at a personal level.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:06 PM (D6PGr)

205 Looks like Nebraska isn't gonna fix their shit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 24, 2024 07:06 PM (Ud7de)

206 ...publicly criticizing former President Donald Trump and Republican Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance.


STFU and get the fu*k outta my country you little shit stain. Artillery units in my army are short ammo to train just so you can piss it away with your bullshit war and outdated tactics.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 24, 2024 07:07 PM (W/lyH)

207 Please never call Stanley Myron Handelman unfunny. I thought he was a hoot.

Posted by: Zombie Dean Martin at September 24, 2024 07:07 PM (CV8a5)

208 "Just learned that Trump has received the coveted Danica Patrick endorsement"

Motorsports legend Danica Patrick?

Posted by: zombie Jim Hall at September 24, 2024 07:08 PM (vFG9F)

209 Jewish comedians are great comedic actors/writers. Stand up not so much imo.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:09 PM (D6PGr)

210 207 Please never call Stanley Myron Handelman unfunny. I thought he was a hoot.
Posted by: Zombie Dean Martin at September 24, 2024 07:07 PM (CV8a5)

Henny Youngman, please send your wife to the white courtesy phone.
The white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:09 PM (PDf99)

211 >>> 192 188 already have an excess of unfunny Jewish comics


Stop looking at meeeee! Wait, don't stop looking at me.

Posted by: Pauly Shore at September 24, 2024 07:09 PM (Eng1Z)

212 208 "Just learned that Trump has received the coveted Danica Patrick endorsement"

Motorsports legend Danica Patrick?
Posted by: zombie Jim Hall at September 24, 2024 07:08 PM (vFG9F)

What about the golf thots?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (PDf99)

213 What's the difference between the Ukraine and Israel again?

Posted by: Head Scratching GOP Voter at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (hFIdm)

214 Is Carrot Top Jewish?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (PDf99)

215 213 What's the difference between the Ukraine and Israel again?
Posted by: Head Scratching GOP Voter at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (hFIdm)

Israel seems to have fewer porn/e-girl/thots.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (PDf99)

216 214 Is Carrot Top Jewish?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (PDf99)



Carrot Cake is. Close enough.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (x0n13)

217 Recently Danica hosted a Townhall with RFKj and Tulsi. It's on utube.

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (V13WU)

218 My wife is trying to fatten me up. Should I be worried?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (v6JzV)

219 runner, McVain was working overtime to push Georgia into a war with Russia. The parallels of Russian troops massed on the Georgian border are disturbingly similar.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (I1GXe)

220 What's the difference between the Ukraine and Israel again?
Posted by: Head Scratching GOP Voter at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (hFIdm)

Snark fail

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (D6PGr)

221 trolls love them some Israel

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:12 PM (V13WU)

222 When Biden had that plane on the runway for Zelensky to escape he decided to be a hero. Then being a hero was difficult. Then the Acronym had a chat with him and that was it.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 24, 2024 07:12 PM (Mr3X0)

223 Carrot cake in chili?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:12 PM (v6JzV)

224 218 My wife is trying to fatten me up. Should I be worried?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (v6JzV)


Is her copy of To Serve Man opened up to the Fattening up Hubby recipe?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:13 PM (x0n13)

225 Hmmm, I see that I really get no respect, no respect at all. Seriously.

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at September 24, 2024 07:13 PM (SSuxC)

226 223 Carrot cake in chili?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:12 PM (v6JzV)

That is horrific.

*golfclap*

I think Marshmallows in chili would be worse. Carrot cake would be kind of like skyline.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (PDf99)

227 My wife is trying to fatten me up. Should I be worried?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (v6JzV)
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Are there recipe tips from Cannibal Bob in her email inbox?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (tT6L1)

228 Carrots should be in neither chili nor cake.

Posted by: San Franspycho at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (RIvkX)

229 218 My wife is trying to fatten me up. Should I be worried?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Not unless she's Haitian.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (Mr3X0)

230 came across Sinatra roast hosted by Dean Martin. Rickles was there. funny dude !

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (V13WU)

231 Carrot cake is fine. Raisins in carrot cake. No.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (tT6L1)

232 Rodney Dangerfield left Stanley Myron Handelman some money in his will and a monthly stipend for life. Stanley passed on in 2007.

Posted by: Happy Harry at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (CV8a5)

233 F*** Ukraine./i]

I was there about the time the war started. Lil Z's machinations were already known and his ethnic cleansing in eastern Ukraine as well.

Vlad is a despot, but unlike lil Z he isn't making my life as an American worse...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (oZhjI)

234 225 Hmmm, I see that I really get no respect, no respect at all. Seriously.
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at September 24, 2024 07:13 PM (SSuxC)

One of my examples of a great comedic actor. The vaudeville stand up is just okay IMO.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (D6PGr)

235 >>> Carrot cake in chili?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:12 PM (v6JzV)

Carrot cake in chili > carrots in chili

Posted by: banana Dream at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (Y6IkP)

236 227 My wife is trying to fatten me up. Should I be worried?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (v6JzV)
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Are there recipe tips from Cannibal Bob in her email inbox?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (tT6L1)

Biden's uncle in a giant vat or with an apple in his mouth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (x0n13)

237 Texas carrot cake always has beans.

Posted by: zombie Jim Hall at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (vFG9F)

238 Do you live in a gingerbread cottage?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (D7oie)

239 220 What's the difference between the Ukraine and Israel again?
Posted by: Head Scratching GOP Voter at September 24, 2024 07:10 PM (hFIdm)

Snark fail
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (D6PGr)

=======================

I understand you don't have a serious answer.

Does anybody else?

Posted by: Head Scratching GOP Voter at September 24, 2024 07:16 PM (hFIdm)

240 229 She’s definitely not Haitian.

She is a redhead, however.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:16 PM (v6JzV)

241 came across Sinatra roast hosted by Dean Martin. Rickles was there. funny dude !
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (V13WU)
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Craig Ferguson had Don on a few times. Those are some good interviews, too.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 07:16 PM (tT6L1)

242 Rickles was there. funny dude !
Posted by: runner
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He was a Marine.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 24, 2024 07:16 PM (Mr3X0)

243 Then: What is war good for? Absolutely nothing

Now: What is war good for? My bank balance

Posted by: The left at September 24, 2024 07:16 PM (oZhjI)

244 Can't wait for Vance to respond to that idiot Zelenskii. If he even cares. Vance has a lot to do between now and Nov 5.

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:17 PM (V13WU)

245 228 Carrots should be in neither chili nor cake.
Posted by: San Franspycho at September 24, 2024 07:14 PM (RIvkX)



Wait, you're Jewish and never even tasted carrot cake? I prefer a nice cinnamon or chocolate babka, but carrot cake will suffice in a pinch.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:17 PM (x0n13)

246 Craig Ferguson was the last good late night host.

I never watched his shows but I've seen clips and his flirting with various starlets was hilarious.

Posted by: The left at September 24, 2024 07:17 PM (oZhjI)

247 Posted by: Head Scratching GOP Voter at September 24, 2024 07:16 PM (hFIdm)

Just asking questions right. Go sell that on DU.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (D6PGr)

248 “The CIA has been running it ever since. Putin knows this. It's why he took Crimea and it's why the people in the Donbas wanted closer ties to Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russian.”

You left out a few things. The Russians have also been meddling in Ukraine for a long time. The government was turning towards Russia because the KGB was more successful than the Agency. The Agency basically intervened to take that victory away from the Russians. Just as dubious and undemocratic. Russia did all of this to ensure that Ukraine didn’t move towards NATO. That was just a security issues, it’s that Putin is an asshole who had large territorial ambitions. He used those ambitions which he sold to the Russian people as restoring mother Russia. Are both sides to blame for this? You bet they are and the whole thing is corrupt and insidious. I don’t support the war, but no matter what you hear it’s bleeding Russia and right now it’s a stalemate and war of attrition. By the way, the Putin Russians aren’t our friends at all.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (7PRou)

249 Chocolate dedka !

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (V13WU)

250 >>runner, McVain was working overtime to push Georgia into a war with Russia. The parallels of Russian troops massed on the Georgian border are disturbingly similar.

Russia did invade Georgia, right after the NATO 2009 Bucharest Summit where W first broached the idea of inviting both Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO.

Didn't get all that much attention in western media, shockingly.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (LkLld)

251 A Cannibal is a person who walks into a restaurant and orders a waiter.

Hey, what do you expect? I'm dead!

Posted by: zombie Morey Amsterdam at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (vFG9F)

252 @246 Craig really was great.

Posted by: Allen at September 24, 2024 07:19 PM (uCXHa)

253 Carrot is a vegetable dammit!

Also, latkes are gross.

Posted by: San Franspycho at September 24, 2024 07:19 PM (RIvkX)

254 251 A Cannibal is a person who walks into a restaurant and orders a waiter.

Hey, what do you expect? I'm dead!
Posted by: zombie Morey Amsterdam at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (vFG9F)



Oh Seth Brundle, there's a waiter in my soup! Yum!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:19 PM (x0n13)

255 " What's the difference between the Ukraine and Israel again?"

I don't get any spam email asking me if I am interested in meeting single Israeli girls.

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 24, 2024 07:20 PM (89Sog)

256 By the way, the Putin Russians aren’t our friends at all.

Vlad is less of a danger to the average American then our own government.

That doesn't mean he's a good guy. That means we should be focused on dealing with the people that mean us harm here and worry about Vlad later...if at all.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2024 07:20 PM (oZhjI)

257 Jewish food fight!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:20 PM (v6JzV)

258 McVain was working overtime to push Georgia into a war with Russia. The parallels of Russian troops massed on the Georgian border are disturbingly similar.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 07:11 PM (I1GXe)

geez Ben Had, I thought the State of Georgia! And I am like "WHAAT??"

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:20 PM (V13WU)

259 Ukraine has provided taxpayer money to be funneled back to US politicians, provided bio labs for nefarious purposes and black sites.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (I1GXe)

260 253 Carrot is a vegetable dammit!

Also, latkes are gross.
Posted by: San Franspycho at September 24, 2024 07:19 PM (RIvkX)


As I told a friend who became a Jew for Jesus, "Give Back your bar mitzvah money!"

;-)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (x0n13)

261 137 Wait. Does Zelensky have a weather machine, too?

hmm. a few years ago odessa was hit with snowfalls that the press were calling things like snegageddon or snegpocalypse or something like that; i forget the details. makes ya wonder...

Posted by: anachronda at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (sGtp+)

262 Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 07:18 PM (LkLld)

They were able to negotiate a treaty fairly quickly.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (D6PGr)

263 US interests are most of my framework for issues like this, and any serious (as opposed to inertial, or stupid) approach proceeding on that basis would have produced radically different approaches to Europe and NATO starting in the 90s.

Of course now, when foreign policy is in the hands of toxic clowns, and typically discussed in terms with little relation to reality by people mired in the past or simply clueless, hard to know where to start.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (SSuxC)

264 The Georgia conflict is an interesting one.

Vlad took the opportunity to take areas that were friendly to Russia and NOT the areas that weren't. Which...makes a lot of sense really.

But then the FNM tells us that if we don't stop Vlad in Eastern Ukraine he'll be in Paris...Texas...by Christmas.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (oZhjI)

265 >>> Hmmm, I see that I really get no respect, no respect at all. Seriously. Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at September 24, 2024 07:13 PM (SSuxC)

The Trump/gopher golf explosion memes have made me want to rewatch Caddyshack. Loved him in that!

The left have turned into the stuffed shirt Elihu Smails and the right the chill Al Czervicks.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 07:22 PM (Eng1Z)

266 258 Kemp v. Putin!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:22 PM (v6JzV)

267 As I told a friend who became a Jew for Jesus, "Give Back your bar mitzvah money!"

;-)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 24, 2024 07:21 PM (x0n13)
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But, did he give up his keys to the weather machine? That's what's important.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 24, 2024 07:22 PM (tT6L1)

268 café is arrived

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 24, 2024 07:22 PM (CEzQx)

269 Jewish food fight!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 24, 2024 07:20 PM (v6JzV)
'
Saying stuff like that just isn't kosher.

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 24, 2024 07:22 PM (89Sog)

270 255 " What's the difference between the Ukraine and Israel again?"

I don't get any spam email asking me if I am interested in meeting single Israeli girls.


and youtube has not yet tried to sell me any israeli women.

Posted by: anachronda at September 24, 2024 07:23 PM (sGtp+)

271 Sorry, but not sorry, Ukraine can eff off. The US has no strategic interest in that country. If they can't fight and win their little war with Roosia then they can become the 22nd Roosian republic.

Posted by: Fed Up to Here at September 24, 2024 07:23 PM (VcHM+)

272 and then McVain is McCain...and I got all confusded...

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:23 PM (V13WU)

273 The difference between Ukraine and Israel is that the latter is full of genuine refugees who have nowhere else to go - at least half of Israel's population.

Ukraine is a fake country of bullshit artists, grifter migrants, and backward peasants - more like 'Palestine' really.

Posted by: jillyjilly at September 24, 2024 07:24 PM (/4YL1)

274 and then McVain is McCain...and I got all confusded...

John McCain = McVain

Meghan McCain = McLard

Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2024 07:24 PM (oZhjI)

275 I saw Toxic Clowns open for Arrested Development at Red Rocks back in 2015 !

Posted by: runner at September 24, 2024 07:24 PM (V13WU)

276 >>You left out a few things.

I left out a lot of things. It's comment section on a blog.

Sure, Russia doesn't have clean hands either. But they have a lot more claim to interests in their backyard in countries they have long standing relations with than we do.

I also left out that NATO promised Russia, well the Soviet Union to be precise, that it would not expand eastward toward Russia beyond the original 12 countries. There are 32 now. We kind of lied on that one.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2024 07:25 PM (LkLld)

277 >>> Rodney Dangerfield left Stanley Myron Handelman some money in his will and a monthly stipend for life. Stanley passed on in 2007. Posted by: Happy Harry at September 24, 2024 07:15 PM (CV8a5)

Interesting, I wonder why. That was kind of him.

Posted by: LizLem at September 24, 2024 07:25 PM (Eng1Z)

278 “Vlad is less of a danger to the average American than our own government.”

People have no idea about the many things Putin was doing to undermine our country. He was trying to break the status quo which has kept the peace for a long time. One good thing about the war is that op has taken a back seat. He can fly all the bomber missions he wants with China. There are a lot of people around Putin who see that relationship as dangerous and damaging to Russian pride and sovereignty- and they’re right.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 24, 2024 07:27 PM (7PRou)

279 She is a redhead, however.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Any sudden interest in various threads, twines, ropes, knots or magic tricks?

Posted by: Braenyard at September 24, 2024 07:28 PM (Mr3X0)

280 I'm out. Be safe and sleep well, good people.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 24, 2024 07:28 PM (hKoQL)

281 280 I'm out. Be safe and sleep well, good people.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA
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Ima have a couple of drinks first then I'm out the door too.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 24, 2024 07:30 PM (Mr3X0)

282 Coming soon to theaters - The Lowlander! “I am Meghan McLard, of the clan McLard! Fear my bulk!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2024 07:31 PM (izPaR)

283 I align with Putin more than Zelensky.

Doesn't mean I like either.

I align more with AOC than Ilhan Omar. They are both trash.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2024 07:43 PM (JeYYB)

284 F*** Ukraine

Ditto X 1000.

Posted by: Voter theater. at September 24, 2024 07:48 PM (FCPbW)

285 Piper, hahahaha. I love it.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 07:52 PM (I1GXe)

286 "Of course now, when foreign policy is in the hands of toxic clowns, and typically discussed in terms with little relation to reality by people mired in the past or simply clueless, hard to know where to start." Posted by: rhomboid

thanks for contributing

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2024 07:52 PM (Cus5s)

287 Welcome to the party pal! I mean Ace…

Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at September 24, 2024 08:01 PM (l5yVc)

288 Hell yeah Ace. Ukrainian War Lies: Go Fuck Yourself

Posted by: Kyle Coplen at September 24, 2024 08:02 PM (tsyjm)

289 People have no idea about the many things Putin was doing to undermine our country.
Posted by: Marcus T

Compared to the American Teachers Union Putin is a piker.

I’ll worry about him after the gays are back in the closets and the illegals have been sent home.

Not until.

Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at September 24, 2024 08:03 PM (l5yVc)

290 The best way forward for this is Russia loses, Ukraine wins, and in there meantime Zelensky's bank account is uncovered and the Ukranian people give him the Ghadaffi treatment.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 24, 2024 09:04 PM (p7lkE)

291 There is no ukrain, is only divided russia, has always been russia, fuck so called ukraine, little russia will rejoin great russia no matter.

Posted by: Peter v. at September 24, 2024 09:39 PM (ngq4I)

292 Didn't Russia start backing the rubel with gold?

I don't know what is really happening between Russia and Ukraine, except our country is getting ass raped paying for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at September 24, 2024 06:54 PM (JeYYB)
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They have to back it with something. With the exception of huge swings as the Ukrainian war started, its sinking against the dollar.

Putin has forever wanted to reinstitute the Soviet footprint. He has typically found ways to create support against a standing government, find a reason to inflame it and come to the rescue. Did it in Georgia. Was doing it in Ukraine, is currently trying to do it in Moldova. The trouble in Ukraine is delaying that. NATO promises based upon Russian problems. No good guys here.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 24, 2024 10:17 PM (9j0Kf)

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