Wednesday Morning Rant

Theater

No, not the debate. Between the live threads yesterday and the analysis that is sure to follow, I probably have little to contribute on that topic. But debates are not the only theatrics this season, or even this week. There is another grand show going on, partially (or even largely) overshadowed by the debate. It's an old show. It's a tired old franchise with yet another in an interminable series of sequels.

That show is called "The Budget." The Budget: Episode XXIV (or whatever number - it doesn't matter) is out of pre-production and the live show is currently underway. As usual, Congress has failed to pass a budget. As usual, it is pursuing a continuing resolution. As usual, the amounts of money involved are staggering. As usual, the deficits are deep and broad. As usual, there are soundbites and passionate speeches. As usual, there are hostages in the form of riders. As usual, there are phony carrots and phonier sticks.

This time, the big carrot is the "Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act," abbreviated as the "SAVE Act." SAVE is supposed to prevent illegal aliens from voting. Whether it would work or not is beside the point. Election integrity measures - regardless of efficacy or implementation potential - are important to large numbers of Americans. On paper, they're particularly important to the GOP. So of course, it is used as the prop in a game of "keep-away" in yet another pseudo-budget "showdown."

That's the gimmick, and that's the play this time 'round. "Dodge the budget yet again, vote for a huge CR yet again, deliver nothing on spending yet again, and we'll give you a rider about election integrity." It's the kind of deeply cynical play that defines this particular brand of theater. The Democrats will vote against it. The Republicans will vote for it. It will deadlock between the houses. The final negotiated deal - which will come at the 11th hour, just before a Dread Government Shutdown would happen - will involve virtually everything on the spending wish list and the SAVE act will will be either neutered or stripped entirely.

After the CR or the inevitable omnibus to follow, the Democrats will screech that the Republicans won because some particular program for some particular interest group didn't get funded, and the Republicans will screech that the Democrats won because the SAVE act had to be sacrificed to obtain a deal. The soundbites and passionate speeches will continue until Biden's auto-pen signs the "compromise deal" and the perennial "crisis" of a Dread Government Shutdown will have been avoided. The deficit will continue to skyrocket. Everybody except the American People will go home happy. The beltway will congratulate itself on keeping the wheels of state in motion.

This episode in the franchise, however, has had some great soundbites. The best so far have come from Thomas Massie (R-KY). He described it as "Groundhog Day" and called out that SAVE act is merely a "bright shiny object." He even calls the whole mess what it is: theater.

"We always get a CR in September and then we get an omnibus," he said, with the only real difference being that some years the latter comes before Christmas, and sometimes after.

This is political theater. We all know where it ends up. I've been here 12 years. I've seen it 12 times. I refuse to be a thespian in this failure theater.

Fair enough. As far as the "passionate speeches and soundbites" stage of this episode, it's been pretty good and Massie has done very nicely. He isn't even wrong (which is what makes for the best soundbites).

But Massie's accurate description doesn't change what it is, and doesn't change how it will go. We're in Theater Season, and the stage is crowded.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

2 I guess Joe's been a bit absent from the comments because of "work" and "job".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

3 Don't you know you hafta' block the monkey
Block the monkey
Blockin' the monkey tonight

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2024 11:00 AM (IG4Id)

4 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at September 11, 2024 11:00 AM (STrjs)

5 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 11:01 AM (CF1sl)

6 Next time, guys! We'll get 'em next time.

Posted by: Washington Generals' Head Coach at September 11, 2024 11:01 AM (L7y9/)

7 All this, and we get to pay for it.

Who's the sucker?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2024 11:01 AM (Q4IgG)

8 "Don't you know you hafta' block the monkey
Block the monkey
Blockin' the monkey tonight"

Phrasing?

Posted by: Washington Generals' Head Coach at September 11, 2024 11:02 AM (L7y9/)

9 Blah

Posted by: Ribbed at September 11, 2024 11:02 AM (L7y9/)

10 remember when Congress actually passed budgets?

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2024 11:02 AM (NGHTx)

11 Excellent post. Thank you.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (NFX2v)

12 If it wasn’t going to be so deadly and painful, I’d laugh when the entire house of cards folds.

Posted by: RI Red at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (CTjQI)

13 , there are phony carrots

In phony chill.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (20rp9)

14 Johnson sucks. Not sure what Trump sees in him. The guy even made sure we won’t pass the March 30th date where an across the board 1% cut kicks in. Republicans couldn’t negotiate their way out of a paper bag. Democrats are certainly worse, but this is pathetic to watch.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (zvo7E)

15 He can refuse all he wants, but if he has no power to strongarm anyone into doing what he wants, he's still just an actor playing a role.

Posted by: XTC at September 11, 2024 11:04 AM (UnA8+)

16 "Whether it would work or not is beside the point."

Spoiler alert: it would not work. The GOP knows it won't work. The Dums know it won't work. The GOP doesn't want it to work. The Dums don't want it to work.

This is pure failure theater and fundraising chum.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 11, 2024 11:04 AM (iFTx/)

17 Good rant CBD

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 11:04 AM (CF1sl)

18 Seems like 9-11 has been forgotten already by the media.
RIP Rick Rescorla

Posted by: Some Stupid With A Flaregun at September 11, 2024 11:05 AM (OTSRH)

19 1i7 Sorry, Joe

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 11:05 AM (CF1sl)

20 Speaking of failure theater

I was somewhat shocked to see Trump standing alongside the pedo in chief and cackles mcsuckacommiedick at the 9/11 ceremony in a fake show of unity the way we always used to do it before the country turned into a fucking clown show

Isnt this the MUHHH NORRRMZZZZZ the TDS psycho crowd always wanted?

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at September 11, 2024 11:05 AM (M7vhK)

21 I remember watching US debtclock once for 10 months or so when the debt ballooned from 13 to 14 Trillion.

The US was in trouble then....

We had "Doom!" Threads

Posted by: Stateless at September 11, 2024 11:05 AM (jvJvP)

22 The stage may be crowded, but the audience is dwindling, and their attention has lapsed.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 11, 2024 11:06 AM (Nmmyc)

23 Work? Job? It's a joyful time!

Posted by: David Muir at September 11, 2024 11:06 AM (Il2vc)

24 This also looks like Johnson is setting up his own party to lose the House over this. With an election less than two months away. A future-defining election.

Posted by: RI Red at September 11, 2024 11:06 AM (CTjQI)

25 This is why inflation cannot be fixed.

The fed is fooked. Can't raise rates to fix inflation. Can't lower rates to please the bankers because our debt load is crippling and about to topple our monetary system, ala Zimbabwe.

This spending is by design and will end when we all have to agree to just wipe our debts and use a central fixed currency like the Euro but under the WBO.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 11:06 AM (aPY1X)

26 Here’s an idea, Johnson. Propose cuts to every single agency that’s been using their power against the American people. How about cuts to every agency giving funds to illegal aliens, you simp.

It’s as if they have no idea what the American people want.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:06 AM (zvo7E)

27 This time, the big carrot is the "Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act," abbreviated as the "SAVE Act."

Any legislator who proposes a bill that can be abbreviated to some cutesy acronym should be put up against a wall and shot.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2024 11:07 AM (Q0kLU)

28 Johnson sucks. Not sure what Trump sees in him. The guy even made sure we won’t pass the March 30th date where an across the board 1% cut kicks in. Republicans couldn’t negotiate their way out of a paper bag. Democrats are certainly worse, but this is pathetic to watch.

Posted by: Vengeance

You're assuming they want it to happen. They don't. The GOP is a fraud, pure and simple. It deserves to go on the ash-heap with the Whigs, but it's become the minor league franchise of the Uniparty, so it gets its existence unnaturally prolonged at our expense.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 11, 2024 11:07 AM (OUMaO)

29 Hey, Mannix! How's the new job going?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 11:08 AM (v6JzV)

30 It’s as if they have no idea what the American people want.

*************

He's too busy sucking Ukrainian ding ding to know what the American people want

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at September 11, 2024 11:08 AM (M7vhK)

31 As usual, Congress has failed to pass a budget. As usual, it is pursuing a continuing resolution. As usual, the amounts of money involved are staggering. As usual, the deficits are deep and broad.

Budget is a word that holds no meaning in that arena. We might as well be living in midiaeval England under King John.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 11, 2024 11:08 AM (1nmyl)

32 Whoa fat! The market was spooked by something this morning. Prolly Trump.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2024 11:09 AM (Il2vc)

33 The cast is out working the field with only 1 porta-potty.

Posted by: DaveA at September 11, 2024 11:09 AM (FhXTo)

34 If it wasn’t going to be so deadly and painful, I’d laugh when the entire house of cards folds.
Posted by: RI Red at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (CTjQI)

This has been said and foretold for decades. But yet........

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 11:09 AM (g8Ew8)

35 32 Whoa fat! The market was spooked by something this morning. Prolly Trump.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2024 11:09 AM (Il2vc

The fed can't and won't drop rates enough to please the investors.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 11:09 AM (aPY1X)

36 Look...I don't understand why this isn't obvious, or why we pretend it isn't what it is.

The GOP is not our friend. It only ever has been accidentally. When good folk have arisen there, they have been marginalized and run off.

They will never be a fit vessel for the will of the American people.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 11, 2024 11:10 AM (OUMaO)

37 Seems like 9-11 has been forgotten already by the media.

Along with probably half the country.

9/11 really has become the 'some people did something' day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2024 11:10 AM (Q0kLU)

38 2 I guess Joe's been a bit absent from the comments because of "work" and "job".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 10:59 AM (GBKbO)
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No excuse for failing to give us at least on pic.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 11:10 AM (1bNHn)

39 Next time, guys! We'll get 'em next time.
Posted by: Washington Generals'

2026.

Big Red Tsunami

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at September 11, 2024 11:10 AM (taEhc)

40 You're assuming they want it to happen. They don't. The GOP is a fraud, pure and simple

********************

It's going to take a few cycles to exterminate them from the party once and for all, unfortunately you got the Koch Cucks funding RINO shitbags in the primaries so that the only choice you have a is still a demonrat or a RINO in some of the election districts

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at September 11, 2024 11:10 AM (M7vhK)

41 We're in Theater Season, and the stage is crowded.

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"Every Season is Theater Season now ..."

In a time of universal deceit, conspiracy theories are an evolutionary act.

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 11:11 AM (CtN1t)

42 @Brother Tim

Time to replace the GOP.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 11, 2024 11:11 AM (L7y9/)

43 We might as well be living in midiaeval England under King John.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 11, 2024 11:08 AM (1nmyl)

Hey, that guy kept England going though some rough times while his crappy brother cosplayed his way through the greater eastern Mediterranean. And he had some gang of nasty crossdressing commie terrorists to deal with, on top of it all!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 11:11 AM (nPLkK)

44 No excuse for failing to give us at least on pic.
Posted by: Eeyore

I cadged a couple of modestly-dressed, pretty-women pics out of Fen yesterday.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 11:11 AM (v6JzV)

45 It's going to take a few cycles to exterminate them from the party once and for all, unfortunately you got the Koch Cucks funding RINO shitbags in the primaries so that the only choice you have a is still a demonrat or a RINO in some of the election districts

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom

Got a plan for extirpating them from the machinery at the local and state levels? Because otherwise Sisyphus says hi.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 11, 2024 11:12 AM (OUMaO)

46 It’s as if they have no idea what the American people want

Oh, they know exactly what the sane part of citizenry wants ... they are just going to continue playing their shell game until heads start appearing on pikes.

Posted by: Wingnutt at September 11, 2024 11:12 AM (6h5Mz)

47 My guess is the inflation fake numbers means the fed wont cut rates as dramatically as the WEF/Wall Street crowd hopes

2.5%, lol fuck off assholes with your cooked bullshit fucking numbers

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at September 11, 2024 11:12 AM (M7vhK)

48 2026-Illegals are breaking into our zoos and eating the animals!

*shrugs*-America

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at September 11, 2024 11:12 AM (taEhc)

49 Joe Mannix....

So young, yet so jaded.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2024 11:13 AM (H70Wm)

50 Got a plan for extirpating them from the machinery at the local and state levels? Because otherwise Sisyphus says hi.

*************

I have a friend putting together a rag tag band of MAGAs to challenge and drive out the fucking anti-trump RINO morons heading the local and state parties here with some success, and Kock fuckers have a huge presence here so thats something?

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at September 11, 2024 11:14 AM (M7vhK)

51 SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:15 AM (CIS44)

52 13 , there are phony carrots

In phony chill.

transcarrots and transchili, h8r

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 11:15 AM (oY6Yp)

53 45 Got a plan for extirpating them from the machinery at the local and state levels? Because otherwise Sisyphus says hi.
Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 11, 2024 11:12 AM (OUMaO)

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I think it's obvious that the party is very, very slowly changing from the ground up. It's unevenly distributed and only obvious in certain centers right now, but the hard right some place like FL has taken is a sign.

It's more than likely that the GOPe in states like MS are more intrenched than the GOPe is at the federal level. In places like that, they actually have control of state government apparatuses that do their bidding. It's a harder job and one that is hard to see from the outside.

But, sometimes it's as simple as SC finally passing constitutional carry after literally decades of the GOP in the state killing it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)

54 2.5%, lol fuck off assholes with your cooked bullshit fucking numbers
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump Ho And Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at September 11, 2024 11:12 AM

--

The courtier press notes that those pesky core inflation figures -- you know, trivial things like food and heat -- remain pesky.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 11, 2024 11:16 AM (wzAuc)

55 Time to replace the GOP.

Posted by: Ribbed

I said as much long ago. But it's clear now it's just an appendage of the larger adversary we're faced with. They won't tolerate a legitimate opposition party--look at what's been happening in Europe, or even just when third parties try to get on the ballot here.

This is not a simple situation to undo. Not to say it can't be, but I don't think enough people are ready for it yet.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 11, 2024 11:16 AM (OUMaO)

56 Don't you know you hafta' block the monkey
Block the monkey
Blockin' the monkey tonight

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2024 11:00 AM (IG4Id)

-------------

Misheard lyrics: I always thought that was "fock the monkey."

/Imagining that sung in the voice of Dieter (Mike Myers character) of SNL's "Sprockets" sketch fame ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 11:16 AM (c/07G)

57 18 Seems like 9-11 has been forgotten already by the media.
RIP Rick Rescorla
Posted by: Some Stupid With A Flaregun at September 11, 2024 11:05 AM (OTSRH)

+1

There are many many more heroes from that day. But may all the victims from this dark day rest in His peace and mercy.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2024 11:16 AM (N39Ws)

58 er, NON-core inflation figures.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 11, 2024 11:17 AM (wzAuc)

59 Any legislator who proposes a bill that can be abbreviated to some cutesy acronym should be put up against a wall and shot.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing a

It's litterally all they do anymore, even if it isnt accurate Inflation Reduction Act

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:17 AM (CIS44)

60 transcarrots and transchili, h8r
Posted by: anachronda

No, just veggie stock.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2024 11:17 AM (IG4Id)

61 Each time they pass a CR and push the problem down the road it makes the inevitable collapse that much more painful. Might make it so bad that the pampered government drones will have to be fired by the thousands. That would be a nice change.

It's like when you are a fan of a bad team. Comes a point in the season when you hope they lose every game left in the season so they will get higher draft picks.

Posted by: 1962 Mets Fan at September 11, 2024 11:18 AM (CV8a5)

62 And for those of you working where you are to improve the situation, salut! My sad ass isn't in a good position to do much these days other than bitch and moan, but I have great respect for those fighting the good fight.

My hope is that it's at least enough to start the ball rolling in our favor. Stranger miracles have happened, after all.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at September 11, 2024 11:19 AM (OUMaO)

63 Hey, that guy kept England going though some rough times while his crappy brother cosplayed his way through the greater eastern Mediterranean. And he had some gang of nasty crossdressing commie terrorists to deal with, on top of it all!
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Both Richard and John were feckless in their own ways. John reluctantly saw the light when his northern batons said we feel like marching into London and putting your head on a pike. Unfortunately for us, there are few renegade barons and there is no Magna Carta in our future.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 11, 2024 11:19 AM (1nmyl)

64 Trump media plunges 15% this morning, after disastrous debate performance last night.

Posted by: Stock Market Update at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (KF2Wj)

65 Harris/Biden team has so depleted shredded carrots strategic reserve, I'm having trouble making my chili up to snuff.

Posted by: Oh, The Huge Manatee! at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (CV8a5)

66 If DeSantis was president none of the bad things would have ever happened.

Posted by: Ribbbbed at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (1FWWQ)

67 It's going to take a few cycles to exterminate them from the party once and for all, unfortunately you got the Koch Cucks funding RINO shitbags in the primaries so that the only choice you have a is still a demonrat or a RINO in some of the election districts
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger

Start putting in the Dem.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (CIS44)

68
But Massie's accurate description doesn't change what it is, and doesn't change how it will go. We're in Theater Season, and the stage is crowded.

This sounds like something I'd hear on Watchdog on Wall Street with Chris Markowski.

https://t.ly/TLLyJ

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (63Dwl)

69 >>>Whether it would work or not is beside the point.

Government is not designed to work. Government is designed to perpetuate and expand itself.

Solutions that work are at cross purposes with those goals.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (AYCXd)

70 Orange Veggie Bad!

Posted by: Somebody had to say it at September 11, 2024 11:21 AM (PiwSw)

71 59 Any legislator who proposes a bill that can be abbreviated to some cutesy acronym should be put up against a wall and shot.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing a

It's litterally all they do anymore, even if it isnt accurate Inflation Reduction Act
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:17 AM

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They should literally have a law setting the parameters of a bill's name so that it reflects what it's for, not some touchy-feely sentiment.

I wonder what that bill would be called...

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 11, 2024 11:21 AM (wzAuc)

72 The funny part is Congress acts like people don’t know what the game is. They figure if they keep dishing out a wasting billions of dollars it’s all bread and circuses for the citizens. Methinks they’re going to get a wake up call very soon. But that depends on how quickly the citizens let go of the government cheese they’re getting. They use people’s fear of how much their share will be cut as leverage to keep doing the same thing year after year. It’s all about, yeah cut the government, just not my piece.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:22 AM (hzUuR)

73 It's litterally all they do anymore, even if it isnt accurate Inflation Reduction Act
Posted by: BruceWayne

This was accurate. They will reduce inflation by ransacking your IRAs.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 11, 2024 11:22 AM (AriWS)

74 It's funny that the left would compare Biden of all people to George Washington.

Given the state of things, Trump is Washington leading a bunch of everyday folks in a revolution against a tyrannical power.

The Founders didn't care about political parties. They knew what had to be done and how it could get done. Trump is doing the same.

The GOPe has no future, which is why they're clinging so desperately to the present.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 11:22 AM (KbCG3)

75 They should literally have a law setting the parameters of a bill's name so that it reflects what it's for, not some touchy-feely sentiment.

I wonder what that bill would be called...
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

The 'Name It What The Fuck It Is' bill. NIWTFIIs. It just rolls off the tongue.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:23 AM (CIS44)

76 It's all Kabuki Theatre. Always has been. What has gubmint ever improved? $36 Trillion in debt, plus $200 Trillion in unfunded mandates? Will any of this be paid. Nope.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:24 AM (C26rB)

77 SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:15 AM (CIS44)

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I will never forgive "Mr. Newt" for caving to Bubba Clinton after the faux feral gubmint "shutdowns" at the end of '95 / beginning of '96.

He could have possibly changed the trajectory of insane spending and rid us of the myriad of Failure Theaters since.

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 11:25 AM (2Hnhu)

78 Just cutting the overwhelming redundancy in government would go a long way in cutting spending.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 11:25 AM (g8Ew8)

79 The Soyuz episode is now live butt it says liftoff is in an hour. However it still says 11:23 Eastern. I think someone messed up their clocks.

Posted by: Ciampino - and I thought it was now at September 11, 2024 11:26 AM (qfLjt)

80 If DeSantis was president none of the bad things would have ever happened.

Posted by: Ribbbbed at September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (1FWWQ)

I will point out that if DeSantis were President then Biden wouldn't be. It's possible that DeSantis would be a Bush-like Republican as President but many of the problems we've run into under the current imbeciles wouldn't have happened.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:26 AM (nR2nR)

81 Break the budget into individual departments.

Pass the important ones.

Then when you get to ones that should be ended entirely you either give them massive budget cuts or add things like SAVE.

Then you give the Dems a choice 50% of HUD or none of it. DoE with SAVE or..no DoE.

And so on.

All you need is half the house +1 and look that's exactly what the Rs have...but they won't do this...notice that?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 11:26 AM (oZhjI)

82 Yeah, I'm tired of the shit show. This is what happens when politicians (i.e. mostly lawyers) are involved in legislation meant to create a balanced budget (Graham-Rudman) that had exceptions for extenuating circumstances (which is always).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

83 The Budgie > The Budget

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:26 AM (VdhcA)

84 Congress may be theater for some but it is what we have and as far as this show goes I won't berate the SAVE act. Will it pass? Probably not and the likes of Massie are an impediment to the Trump Republican party. He is one of the ten consistent Party poopers.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:27 AM (u7iQ0)

85 If I have it right, on Bad Blue there was a tweet from Elon the debt payment is more than the military budget.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 11:27 AM (CF1sl)

86 Well, I just woke up to Sonny and Cher singing "You've got me babe" and it's Groundhog Day, again.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 11, 2024 11:27 AM (+H2BX)

87 It's all Kabuki Theatre. Always has been. What has gubmint ever improved? $36 Trillion in debt, plus $200 Trillion in unfunded mandates? Will any of this be paid. Nope.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:24 AM

Plus we spent TRILLIONS of $$$$ that we don't have and 20 years in both Iraq and Afghanistan and they are exactly the same as when we invaded, backward countries ruled by warlords and mullahs. Two wasted decades, countless American military lives dead and ruined all for nothing.

We are our own worst enemy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 11, 2024 11:28 AM (QNSds)

88 The deficit is not sustainable and it will soon implode.

Posted by: Things people have said since the 1980s at September 11, 2024 11:28 AM (KF2Wj)

89 The funny part is Congress acts like people don’t know what the game is.

They keep doing the same thing. By and large, the same people keep getting elected. Could be fraud by Team Red also, or a sufficient segment of the populace can't be made to care until it's too late.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:28 AM (nR2nR)

90 79 The Soyuz episode is now live butt it says liftoff is in an hour. However it still says 11:23 Eastern. I think someone messed up their clocks.

let's do the time warp again

Posted by: dr. frank n. furter at September 11, 2024 11:29 AM (oY6Yp)

91 The GOPe has no future, which is why they're clinging so desperately to the present.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
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I don't disagree, but the "present" can last a very long time. The GOPe is dug in like an Alabama tick. It could take decades to dig them out. Assuming the will to dig them out lasts that long.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 11, 2024 11:29 AM (iFTx/)

92 It's all Kabuki Theatre. Always has been. What has gubmint ever improved? $36 Trillion in debt, plus $200 Trillion in unfunded mandates? Will any of this be paid. Nope.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:24 AM (C26rB)

We are vulnerable to an economic war from China and Russia akin to Reagan's war that brought down the USSR, if we are not already in one.

These failure theater, kick the can down the road GOPers are traitors, same as the commie leftists.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 11, 2024 11:29 AM (AYCXd)

93
Plus we spent TRILLIONS of $$$$ that we don't have and 20 years in both Iraq and Afghanistan and they are exactly the same as when we invaded,

That's true but not even the full story...America is objectively worse now then before we spent the last $20T.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 11:29 AM (oZhjI)

94 The Dems are batshit insane and the GOPe is dumb as a box of rocks, with no clue that the country is dying. But never fear, the GOPe will be replaced by a real one party state with the GOPe being lined up against a wall and shot . And then freedom will reign, oh wait

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 11:30 AM (tKS+g)

95 We are our own worst enemy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 11, 2024 11:28 AM (QNSds)

*They are our own worst enemy. You and I would do right by America and Americans.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 11, 2024 11:30 AM (AYCXd)

96 91 The GOPe has no future, which is why they're clinging so desperately to the present.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
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I don't disagree, but the "present" can last a very long time. The GOPe is dug in like an Alabama tick. It could take decades to dig them out. Assuming the will to dig them out lasts that long.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 11, 2024 11:29 AM (iFTx/)

Trump is the accelerant. I like to believe that Vance is the extension of Trump's everyman, big tent governing style.

If it's 2028 and we're back to business as usual, well, it's all over but the crying.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3)

97 60 transcarrots and transchili, h8r
Posted by: anachronda

No, just veggie stock.

bump stock > veggie stock

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (oY6Yp)

98 We might as well be living in midiaeval England under King John.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 11, 2024 11:08 AM (1nmyl)
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Only if I get a young Olivia deHavilland out of it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (VdhcA)

99 Go check out NPR.

They are going to go blind with all the jacking off.

Posted by: I need a drink at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (R+jVn)

100 There are many many more heroes from that day. But may all the victims from this dark day rest in His peace and mercy.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2024 11:16 AM (N39Ws)

And there were many victims who survived but had their lives changed permanently. Like not being able to work again. Try that change on for size.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (TIizU)

101 78 Just cutting the overwhelming redundancy in government would go a long way in cutting spending.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 11:25 AM (g8Ew

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Yes, there are too many 'Federal' entities in this country. Also too many with a phantom 'Federal' that often appears as 'Department'. Usually they do nothing except spend money. Numero Uno is probably the Department of Energy. It does not produce energy, and in fact probably hinders the private sector. The EPA is another that needs to go to the States.

Posted by: Ciampino - The Dept of Education does no such thing at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (qfLjt)

102 Tough, manly conservatives just had to go to Eye-rak and kick some Mesopotamian ass. On top of that, had to enshrine such dystopian terms as "Homeland Security" and "Patriot Act" into law. Just sad.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:32 AM (KAi1n)

103
A few years ago, the big shots weren't concerned about shutting things down, throwing people out of work, causing businesses to go bankrupt and workers to go on unemployment. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the poor Federales.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2024 11:32 AM (1Nxff)

104 79 The Soyuz episode is now live butt it says liftoff is in an hour. However it still says 11:23 Eastern. I think someone messed up their clocks.
Posted by: Ciampino -
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Space affairs has some fellow yapping at the link that's supposed to be Soyuz. Is there another link?

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:33 AM (u7iQ0)

105 102 Tough, manly conservatives just had to go to Eye-rak and kick some Mesopotamian ass. On top of that, had to enshrine such dystopian terms as "Homeland Security" and "Patriot Act" into law. Just sad.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:32 AM (KAi1n)

Are you forgetting the really cheap gas and oil we got out of it?!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 11:33 AM (KbCG3)

106 BTW, if Congress is a theater, Massie is Macbeth.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:33 AM (hzUuR)

107 The Budgie > The Budget

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:26 AM (VdhcA)

Budgie - Turned to Stone

https://youtu.be/Ua2wFKlDv2U

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 11, 2024 11:33 AM (AYCXd)

108 Well, it's been nice to learn that "continuing resolution" is what it's called after "Just the tip!?"

Goes on forever too...

Posted by: Stateless at September 11, 2024 11:34 AM (jvJvP)

109 BTW, if Congress is a theater, Massie is Macbeth.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:33 AM (hzUuR)
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Aaah! Hot potato, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends!

Oooow!

Posted by: Keanrick and Mossop at September 11, 2024 11:34 AM (VdhcA)

110 Plus we spent TRILLIONS of $$$$ that we don't have and 20 years in both Iraq and Afghanistan and they are exactly the same as when we invaded...

This is demonstrably false. Not only is the Taliban significantly better armed, we left behind pallets of $100 so they're better funded as well.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:34 AM (nR2nR)

111 Plus we spent TRILLIONS of $$$$ that we don't have and 20 years in both Iraq and Afghanistan and they are exactly the same as when we invaded, backward countries ruled by warlords and mullahs. Two wasted decades, countless American military lives dead and ruined all for nothing.

We are our own worst enemy.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 11, 2024 11:28 AM (QNSds)

Plus all the wunderwaffen weapons systems provided by the MIC, that don't work and are too expensive. F-35, Ford Carriers, and LCS to name a few. Now, $50K drones and cheap missiles that Houthi and the Blowfish have used, chased off the US Navy in the Red Sea. Using an SM3 missile (latest cost I found was $9 mil per copy?? could be less) vs $50K drone, who wins the salvo competition?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:34 AM (C26rB)

112 They should literally have a law setting the parameters of a bill's name so that it reflects what it's for, not some touchy-feely sentiment.

I wonder what that bill would be called...

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

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The BULLSHIT (Bring Us Less Literal Shitty Ignominy and Terminology) Act.

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (2Hnhu)

113 Tough, manly conservatives just had to go to Eye-rak and kick some Mesopotamian ass. On top of that, had to enshrine such dystopian terms as "Homeland Security" and "Patriot Act" into law. Just sad.

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If we don’t fight them there they’ll come here and do bad stuff.

Posted by: Conservatives in 2003 at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (KF2Wj)

114 Break the budget into individual departments.

Pass the important ones.
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'Important' being constitutionally named.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (eRfHZ)

115 They are going to go blind with all the jacking off.
Posted by: I need a drink at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (R+jVn)

There's probably a medical code for that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (nR2nR)

116 It's going to take a few cycles to exterminate them from the party once and for all,

no, the uniparty is waiting to get rid of Trump once and for all, and then anyone not on board with the uniparty will be the ones exterminated

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (NGHTx)

117 If we don’t fight them there they’ll come here and do bad stuff.

Posted by: Conservatives in 2003 at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (KF2Wj)

Oh shit they were right!

Posted by: Some cat running from a Haitian guy with a knife at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (oZhjI)

118 “ $50K drone, who wins the salvo competition?
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:34 AM (C26rB)”

Tactical, small warhead nukes.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (hzUuR)

119 78 Just cutting the overwhelming redundancy in government would go a long way in cutting spending.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 11:25 AM (g8Ew

That's their bread and butter right there; they'll never do that. That an Amendment to the Constitution limiting pay raises to Congress took over 200 years to pass says a bunch (that it even got ratified amazes me).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

120 FIRST comment of mine for the day...

Howdy, y'all.

Will there be a 9/11/2001 memorial thread today?

Posted by: mindful webworker - remembers at September 11, 2024 11:37 AM (fverx)

121 If Congressional Acts were Accurate in name:
The Secure Housing for Illegal Troublemakers Act: The SHIT Act...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

122 It's like when you are a fan of a bad team. Comes a point in the season when you hope they lose every game left in the season so they will get higher draft picks.
Posted by: 1962 Mets Fan

Literally the story of the 2023 Washington Commanders who had an epic collapse and secured the #2 pick.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:38 AM (KAi1n)

123 Will there be a 9/11/2001 memorial thread today?
Posted by: mindful webworker - remembers at September 11, 2024 11:37 AM (fverx)
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I'm wearing my 9/11 memorial shirt, so I'm covered.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:38 AM (VdhcA)

124 They are going to go blind with all the jacking off.
Posted by: I need a drink at September 11, 2024 11:31 AM (R+jVn)

There's probably a medical code for that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (nR2nR)

F98.8 - excessive masturbation.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Q0kLU)

125 Literally the story of the 2023 Washington Commanders who had an epic collapse and secured the #2 pick.
Posted by: SFGoth

I am unfamiliar with that team.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)

126 That an Amendment to the Constitution limiting pay raises to Congress took over 200 years to pass says a bunch (that it even got ratified amazes me).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

1. Why would state legislatures give a shit about Congress not being able to give themselves another pay raise every week?
2. Congressional pay is chump change. The real money is playing the market with advanced knowledge of where you're about to dump a few billion dollars of taxpayer money.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (nR2nR)

127 Will there be a 9/11/2001 memorial thread today?
Posted by: mindful webworker

I know I'll have a 9/11 Memorial workout today.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)

128 The WOT made sure we gave up freedom for security.

Oops.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (tT6L1)

129 Remember the point of the government is to get as much money for the people running the government as possible. That's it. Anything else they do is incidental.

Hell, I mean its like one of those big evil companies in movies

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (oZhjI)

130 I am unfamiliar with that team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)
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It's "Redskins" spelled differently.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (VdhcA)

131 If we don’t fight them there they’ll come here and do bad stuff.
Posted by: Conservatives in 2003 at September 11, 2024 11:35 AM (KF2Wj)

Effing neocons pushing that BS. They are already here, in their sleeper cells, and waiting for the day? Schlichter wrote a book on this topic, attack of fire and forget terrorist cells attacking here. The Al Qaeda cellular model would probably apply here.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (C26rB)

132 Seems like 9-11 has been forgotten already by the media.
RIP Rick Rescorla

Fox was running their annual "9/11 as it happened" thing this morning.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (2ocoG)

133 I am unfamiliar with that team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)

Joe Biden's dog is on it. When he snaps the ball, he really snaps the ball.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (m0ILq)

134 122 It's like when you are a fan of a bad team. Comes a point in the season when you hope they lose every game left in the season so they will get higher draft picks.
Posted by: 1962 Mets Fan

Literally the story of the 2023 Washington Commanders who had an epic collapse and secured the #2 pick.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:38 AM (KAi1n)

I WAS a (nominal) Chargers fan until the owners got greedy and left SD. I so hoped the Raiders, before their move to Las Vegas, would've had their temporary location here and play their annual game with the Chargers here in San Diego. It used to be the stands were filled with a fan distribution of about 50/50, but in that case, it would've been a glorious 90/10 for the Raiders (50% Raiders fans, 40% former Chargers fans that wanted to see the Chargers lose)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (ynpvh)

135 Are you forgetting the really cheap gas and oil we got out of it?!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

I am! But not nearly as cheap as the stuff we have right effing here.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (KAi1n)

136 F98.8 - excessive masturbation.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Q0kLU)

How is that defined? I'm thinking of going for disabled status.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (nR2nR)

137 I am unfamiliar with that team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)
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It's "Redskins" spelled differently.
Posted by: Captain Obvious,

Oh I know who the Redskins are.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:41 AM (CIS44)

138 75 They should literally have a law setting the parameters of a bill's name so that it reflects what it's for, not some touchy-feely sentiment.

I wonder what that bill would be called...
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

The 'Name It What The Fuck It Is' bill. NIWTFIIs. It just rolls off the tongue.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:23 AM (CIS44)
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I wonder how much money was wasted in trying to come up with SAVE?

Posted by: Ciampino - so this is a SPEND bill at September 11, 2024 11:41 AM (qfLjt)

139 119 78 Just cutting the overwhelming redundancy in government would go a long way in cutting spending.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 11:25 AM

--

Are you saying we can't have our own SWAT enforcement arm? We're just supposed to go kick down doors with just our dick in our hands?

Posted by: The United States Geological Survey at September 11, 2024 11:41 AM (wzAuc)

140 102 Tough, manly conservatives just had to go to Eye-rak and kick some Mesopotamian ass. On top of that, had to enshrine such dystopian terms as "Homeland Security" and "Patriot Act" into law. Just sad.
Posted by: SFGoth at September
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Going to Iraq wasn't bad. Letting the bureaucrats take over was.
Of course, we didn't know that we had an Administrative Bureaucrat for a president at the time.

If we had a real president he would have let them run the show and Iraq and Iran would be pacified and Afghanistan neutered with our military well taken care of heroes.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:41 AM (u7iQ0)

141 126 That an Amendment to the Constitution limiting pay raises to Congress took over 200 years to pass says a bunch (that it even got ratified amazes me).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

1. Why would state legislatures give a shit about Congress not being able to give themselves another pay raise every week?
2. Congressional pay is chump change. The real money is playing the market with advanced knowledge of where you're about to dump a few billion dollars of taxpayer money.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (nR2nR)

And yet it STILL took over 200 years to ratify. Remember, quite a few Congresscritters got their start in their state legislatures...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:42 AM (ynpvh)

142 Trump disappointed us, what else is new?

"the analysis that is sure to follow"

...

That's a weird way to spell "fake-ass victory lap".

Ignore what annoys you. Do not become demoralized.

Posted by: Tom Perry at September 11, 2024 11:42 AM (MX0bI)

143 135 Are you forgetting the really cheap gas and oil we got out of it?!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

I am! But not nearly as cheap as the stuff we have right effing here.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (KAi1n)

You colonizers. Why must you destroy and disturb our lands when we can simply do that where a bunch of brown people are?!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 11:42 AM (KbCG3)

144 Are you saying we can't have our own SWAT enforcement arm? We're just supposed to go kick down doors with just our dick in our hands?
Posted by: The United States Geological Survey at September 11, 2024 11:41 AM (wzAuc)
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We kind of assume you'll stop kicking in doors once a few of you get shot by enraged home owners.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 11:42 AM (tT6L1)

145 130 I am unfamiliar with that team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)
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It's "Redskins" spelled differently.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (VdhcA)

the Crimson Pallor would've been an acceptable alternative...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:43 AM (ynpvh)

146 And yet it STILL took over 200 years to ratify.

I think it just got forgotten until that guy who found it made it his mission to get it ratified.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:43 AM (nR2nR)

147 If it wasn’t going to be so deadly and painful, I’d laugh when the entire house of cards folds.
Posted by: RI Red at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (CTjQI)

Yeah, the whole of these last 3.5 years would've made a brilliant dark comedy.

Plenty of laughs with a horrifying "Day of the Locust" or "Dr Strangelove" ending.

But, having to live through it, with only the narrowest path to escape (ie. the upcoming election)...

Ugh. Do not want.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2024 11:43 AM (eDfFs)

148 136 F98.8 - excessive masturbation.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Q0kLU)

How is that defined? I'm thinking of going for disabled status.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:40 AM (nR2nR)

I don't think most workplaces (save brothels and "massage" parlors) would allow that as a work excuse...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 11:44 AM (ynpvh)

149 Tactical, small warhead nukes.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 11, 2024 11:36 AM (hzUuR)

Do they work? A while back, a Minuteman III missile was launched from Vandenburg as a test, had to blow it up because it was veering off course badly? The nuke weapon delivery systems may not be all that and a bag of chips. Competency crisis is real in the military and MIC.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:44 AM (C26rB)

150 the Crimson Pallor would've been an acceptable alternative...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I saw Crimson Pallor open for Redd Kross at UC/SD in 1987.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:45 AM (KAi1n)

151 2. Congressional pay is chump change. The real money is playing the market with advanced knowledge of where you're about to dump a few billion dollars of taxpayer money.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 11, 2024 11:39 AM (nR2nR)

3. Money laundering thru war materials expenditures. Also using a country at war to launder cartel drug money. Those commissions must be in the hundreds of millions.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 11:45 AM (g8Ew8)

152
Someone in Springfield, Ohio asked an employee of the DMV how the Haitians are able to get a license, do they have to take a test?

DMV person: "I'm not allowed to answer."

https://is.gd/MW1JZD

/ what the hell is going on? Locals say they can't drive for shit

Posted by: Hungry Haitian at September 11, 2024 11:47 AM (RKVpM)

153 Georgetown University, which has received $934 million from Arab-Muslim sources is facing accusations of promoting pro-Hamas propaganda and fomenting antisemitism through its Gaza Lecture Series

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:47 AM (u7iQ0)

154 If it wasn’t going to be so deadly and painful, I’d laugh when the entire house of cards folds.
Posted by: RI Red at September 11, 2024 11:03 AM (CTjQI)

When? You're soaking in it.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 11:48 AM (U/CEs)

155 152
Someone in Springfield, Ohio asked an employee of the DMV how the Haitians are able to get a license, do they have to take a test?

DMV person: "I'm not allowed to answer."

https://is.gd/MW1JZD

/ what the hell is going on? Locals say they can't drive for shit
Posted by: Hungry Haitian at September 11, 2024 11:47 AM (RKVpM)

We called the City Manager and that is false !

Posted by: ABC Moderators at September 11, 2024 11:48 AM (IyPmt)

156 I saw Houthi and the Blowfish open for The Mad Mullahs at Eichenring in 2001.

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 11:49 AM (2Hnhu)

157 SAVE Act in the CR
Dems are on record as opposing a citizenship test for voting in a federal election
GOP sez "no SAVE Act, no CR"
Dems vote down SAVE Act and CR on roll call vote
GOP sez "no SAVE Act, no CR"

Posted by: mrp at September 11, 2024 11:49 AM (rj6Yv)

158 Critics have baselessly alleged the gold pearl loops - which Harris, 59, has worn before and are believed to be from Tiffany's - are actually a pair of smart audio earrings engineered by German start-up company NOVA.
_DM

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:50 AM (u7iQ0)

159 I saw Houthi and the Blowfish open for The Mad Mullahs at Eichenring in 2001.
Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 11:49 AM (2Hnhu)
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Does anyone know what the Houthis used to blow up that Greek tanker last week? The explosion was huge.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:50 AM (VdhcA)

160 Still see no reason to not support the SAVE Act as part of the CR now. This whole line of "this is theater and I won't be a part of theater" BS is a convenient way of sounding moral and conservative without actually voting for a moral and conservative measure. If they strip the SAVE Act out later, don't vote for it. If you know it'll pass after being compromised out, why not support it now and not later after it's stripped out? If you're not willing to support it now when you know it'll fail and thus requires no courage to support it, why would anyone believe you'll have the courage support it later when (if?) Repubs have both houses & the executive and can actually pass it?

Posted by: bearski at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (Bhsk7)

161 Posted by: Hungry Haitian

New Milton Bradley game just in time for Christmas:

Hungry Hungry Haitian

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (eHh36)

162 >>> Seems like 9-11 has been forgotten already by the media.

I never would have believed it back in 2001, I was much more naive (and hadn't found this site yet), but the media and the far left hate America so much they emotionally sided with the terrorists, even back then. "Chickens coming home to roost, it's sad but we deserve it" kind of nonsense.

Why mourn something you see as a good thing?

The sad thing is the importance of this day isn't being passed down to the next generations, like how Pearl Harbor and D-Day were passed down to mine. By design.

We can never forget, at least, and we won't, even if the media want us to.

Posted by: LizLem at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (LijrP)

163 You'll know the Trump Curse is real if we see a headline soon saying "SHOCK: Springfield City Manager Eaten By Haitian Cannibal Gang"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (0FoWg)

164 Investors on Wednesday appeared to reassess the risks that Kamala Harris could win the presidential contest, sending the major stock indexes plunging on the morning after the debate between Harris and Donald Trump.

_Kamala Harris/No Confidence

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (u7iQ0)

165 158 Critics have baselessly alleged the gold pearl loops - which Harris, 59, has worn before and are believed to be from Tiffany's - are actually a pair of smart audio earrings engineered by German start-up company NOVA.
_DM
Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:50 AM (u7iQ0)

Maybe, but I guarantee she had a listening device. I watched the debate.. Have a hang over to prove it, and it was obvious she was getting fed answers

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 11:52 AM (IyPmt)

166 Any journalist using the phrase "believed to be" should be shot on principle.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 11:52 AM (nPLkK)

167 "If we don’t fight them there they’ll come here and do bad stuff."

If we don't fight them there, the neocons will bring them here to fight.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 11, 2024 11:52 AM (L7y9/)

168 You'll know the Trump Curse is real if we see a headline soon saying "SHOCK: Springfield City Manager Eaten By Haitian Cannibal Gang"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (0FoWg)
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I did not have "Haitian cannibals in Ohio" on my dance card for 2024.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (VdhcA)

169 Any journalist ~~using the phrase "believed to be"~~ should be shot on principle.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 11:52 AM (nPLkK)

FIFY

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (0FoWg)

170 Kabuki.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (FuCE/)

171 She could have had three people behind her speaking audibly into her ear and they'd be saying "They were just sharing daiquiri recipes, you stupid conspiracy theorists!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (nPLkK)

172 168 I did not have "Haitian cannibals in Ohio" on my dance card for 2024.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (VdhcA)

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Funnily enough, I did.

It was a write-in.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (GBKbO)

173 If you haven't seen Megan Kelly's rant about last night, you should and here it is.

https://tinyurl.com/2aphx4ry

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 11, 2024 11:54 AM (89Sog)

174 excessive masturbation.

Onan on and on and on.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 11, 2024 11:54 AM (BGeGB)

175 Funnily enough, I did.

It was a write-in.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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I guess you win a year's worth of Rice-A-Roni, then.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:54 AM (VdhcA)

176 167 "If we don’t fight them there they’ll come here and do bad stuff."

If we don't fight them there, the neocons will bring them here to fight.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 11, 2024 11:52 AM (L7y9
Ain’t that the truth?!?

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 11:55 AM (FuCE/)

177
Why are you all not accepting your World Citizenship with Joy?

Posted by: Auspex at September 11, 2024 11:55 AM (j4U/Z)

178 The sad thing is the importance of this day isn't being passed down to the next generations, like how Pearl Harbor and D-Day were passed down to mine. By design.

We can never forget, at least, and we won't, even if the media want us to.
Posted by: LizLem at September 11, 2024 11:51 AM (LijrP)

What is very sad to me is that 9/11 spawned two wars… you can argue both were strategic defeats for us. It was great that we eventually got Bin Laden… other than that, I can’t think of any positives out of Afghanistan or Iraq. Neither did we collectively learn any lessons about the “religion of peace”….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2024 11:55 AM (5MZNC)

179 175 I guess you win a year's worth of Rice-A-Roni, then.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:54 AM (VdhcA)

======

Dolley used to eat that stuff all the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

180 Plus all the wunderwaffen weapons systems provided by the MIC, that don't work and are too expensive. F-35, Ford Carriers, and LCS to name a few. Now, $50K drones and cheap missiles that Houthi and the Blowfish have used, chased off the US Navy in the Red Sea. Using an SM3 missile (latest cost I found was $9 mil per copy?? could be less) vs $50K drone, who wins the salvo competition?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 11, 2024 11:34 AM

It's pretty simple actually, don't fight the drones. Blow the fvck out of the places they make and launch them, problem solved. But we don't have the balls to do that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 11, 2024 11:56 AM (QNSds)

181 I guess you win a year's worth of Rice-A-Roni, then.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Good stuff but not keto-friendly.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:56 AM (KAi1n)

182 Boy, that guy over there, he's a great fellow. Masturbates the exact right amount. What a mensch.

Posted by: said nobody ever at September 11, 2024 11:56 AM (nPLkK)

183 Debate Moderators Bringing Up J6 But Not Trump Assassination Attempt Tells You Everything About Media Corruption
_theFederalist

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:57 AM (u7iQ0)

184
Kabuki.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM

Judges would also accept 'Bukkake'.

Posted by: Hungry Haitian at September 11, 2024 11:57 AM (RKVpM)

185 Dolley used to eat that stuff all the time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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Even as a kid, hearing that the consolation prized was years' worth of Rice-A-Roni, I thought, "What the heck does that look like??"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:57 AM (VdhcA)

186 181 Good stuff but not keto-friendly.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:56 AM (KAi1n)

=======

I like salads.

Gluten-free, low carb, and all natural.

It's bacon. I like bacon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

187 It's pretty simple actually, don't fight the drones. Blow the fvck out of the places they make and launch them, problem solved. But we don't have the balls to do that.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Good ol' strategic, industrial bombing. Worked in Dub-Dub 2.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (KAi1n)

188 The sad thing is the importance of this day isn't being passed down to the next generations, like how Pearl Harbor and D-Day were passed down to mine. By design.

We can never forget, at least, and we won't, even if the media want us to.
-

What is very sad to me is that 9/11 spawned two wars… you can argue both were strategic defeats for us. It was great that we eventually got Bin Laden… other than that, I can’t think of any positives out of Afghanistan or Iraq. Neither did we collectively learn any lessons about the “religion of peace”….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

--

I suspect the two of those are connected.

Especially after the PATRIOT Act and the same folks later releasing a bioweapon to murder elderly people in pursuit of stealing an election and then jailing political opponents before shooting the wildly popular ousted President in the head.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Christians are the most persecuted, oppressed, and murdered religious group at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (qXu2E)

189 Kabuki.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM

Judges would also accept 'Bukkake'.

Posted by: Hungry Haitian at September 11, 2024 11:57 AM (RKVpM)

Noh, thanks.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (nPLkK)

190 Reading the post debate reactions it sounds like the media is crowing about Kamala's success but the undecideds are either still undecided or as with the Reuters focus group, breaking for Trump (6 in 10). Speaking as a woman, I found her facial expressions - the smirks, smiles, etc. - very condescending and bitchy.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (ZtyUu)

191 Even as a kid, hearing that the consolation prized was years' worth of Rice-A-Roni, I thought, "What the heck does that look like??"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:57 AM (VdhcA)

One box.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (m0ILq)

192 >>> what the hell is going on? Locals say they can't drive for shit

The city managers are keeping mum so Trump won't have talking points. But what can't be disguised are the insurance rates.

One Springfield guy says his insurance is going up $100 a month for his cars, he'll basically have the insurance bills of owning three cars when he only has two. He tried to switch and all the insurance companies are charging that price or more for Springfield residents. Because the new Haitian drivers are terrible and are getting into accidents all over place, driving the rates up.

Haitians won't apply for insurance and honestly a lot of them probably don't have licenses anyway. What's the worst that happens if they are caught without one? Jail with free food, bed, and TV?

Posted by: LizLem at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (0uPDg)

193 190 Reading the post debate reactions it sounds like the media is crowing about Kamala's success but the undecideds are either still undecided or as with the Reuters focus group, breaking for Trump (6 in 10). Speaking as a woman, I found her facial expressions - the smirks, smiles, etc. - very condescending and bitchy.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (ZtyUu)

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The best is a headline saying, "Pundits say Kamala won, but Undecided Voters are not quite so sure."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

194 Doctor: you need to stop masturbating.
Patient: why?
Doctor: because I'm trying to examine you.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (xPJvm)

195 25 Lies Kamala Harris Told In Her Debate Against Trump
https://tinyurl.com/2skh6544

_theFederalist

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (u7iQ0)

196 Even as a kid, hearing that the consolation prized was years' worth of Rice-A-Roni, I thought, "What the heck does that look like??"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:57 AM (VdhcA)

A twentieth of a box of rice-a-roni?

Posted by: Warai-otoko hasn't had it in at least 20 years at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (nPLkK)

197 Headline from an article in the NYT today.

Pundits say Harris won the debate. Undecided voters weren't so sure.

Despite being plagued with an abundance of "pundits" there are a hell of a lot more undecided voters.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (LkLld)

198 The best is a headline saying, "Pundits say Kamala won, but Undecided Voters are not quite so sure."

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hahaha, the Rotten Tomatoes of debate reporting.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Christians are the most persecuted, oppressed, and murdered religious group at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (qXu2E)

199 Someone in Springfield, Ohio asked an employee of the DMV how the Haitians are able to get a license, do they have to take a test?

DMV person: "I'm not allowed to answer.

At my local DMV they had signs everywhere that if you didn't bring all the documentation they wouldn't give you a license.

Except...

The loudspeaker announced in a million different languages that if you were a "newcomer" they would take any documentation you had or none if you didn't have any...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM (oZhjI)

200 They say we can't keep printing money. Seems the printers haven't got the message. The reckoning will come.

Posted by: javems at September 11, 2024 12:00 PM (8I4hW)

201 I did not have "Haitian cannibals in Ohio" on my dance card for 2024.

Scared kitties and ducks are running -
Haitian cannibals in Ohio!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2024 12:00 PM (Q0kLU)

202 hahaha, the Rotten Tomatoes of debate reporting.

I saw someone comparing the Fauci and Reagan movies and it was something like

86 to 2

26 to 98

for the "tomato rating" versus actual site users...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (oZhjI)

203 I just got a call that one of my closest friends passed away - the one I had asked for prayers, he had cancer. I am just gutted. It was not expected this early. Truly gutted right now.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (pZEOD)

204 Ugh. Sorry Piper.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Christians are the most persecuted, oppressed, and murdered religious group at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (qXu2E)

205 Pretty good fact check on the whole debate, put together by Team Trump. Harris and the mods lied and evaded all night.

https://tinyurl.com/3znhhczh

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (Cus5s)

206 Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (pZEOD

So sorry

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (IyPmt)

207 I just got a call that one of my closest friends passed away - the one I had asked for prayers, he had cancer. I am just gutted. It was not expected this early. Truly gutted right now.
Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (pZEOD)

Condolences, Piper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2024 12:02 PM (m0ILq)

208 What's the worst that happens if they are caught without one? Jail with free food, bed, and TV?
Posted by: LizLem at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (0uPDg)

But no cat souvlaki.

*weeps*

Posted by: Haitian in the hoosegow at September 11, 2024 12:02 PM (OguvZ)

209 {{{Piper}}}

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 12:02 PM (VdhcA)

210 Is it five o'clock? I need a drink.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:02 PM (u7iQ0)

211 153 Georgetown University, which has received $934 million from Arab-Muslim sources is facing accusations of promoting pro-Hamas propaganda and fomenting antisemitism through its Gaza Lecture Series
Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:47 AM (u7iQ0)

Holy fuck!!

Posted by: Gambling in Casablanca at September 11, 2024 12:02 PM (KF2Wj)

212
Despite being plagued with an abundance of "pundits" there are a hell of a lot more undecided voters.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2024 11:59 AM

In my opinion, if Independents are now 50% of the voters any poll with more then 25% (R) or (D) is bullshit. Even Rasmussen is guilty of this. IMO again, people in the middle aren't falling for the Harris radical agenda.

Posted by: Hungry Haitian at September 11, 2024 12:03 PM (RKVpM)

213 110 Plus we spent TRILLIONS of $$$$ that we don't have and 20 years in both Iraq and Afghanistan and they are exactly the same as when we invaded...

This is demonstrably false. Not only is the Taliban significantly better armed, we left behind pallets of $100 so they're better funded as well.

joke's on them. inflation has eaten away the value of those $100

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 12:03 PM (oY6Yp)

214 Noh, thanks.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 11:58 AM (nPLkK)

So good.

Posted by: sal at September 11, 2024 12:04 PM (bx3Km)

215 If you haven't seen Megan Kelly's rant about last night, you should and here it is.

https://tinyurl.com/2aphx4ry
Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 11, 2024 11:54 AM (89Sog)

Good rant.

And she makes some very good points about the methodology used by the Coconut Hacks to try and throw the match to Que Mala.

I still think the big take-away from last night's debate is that it took 3 debaters to handle Trump,

Kamala couldn't do it by herself. Great Preezy material, huh?

She is weak and not smart.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2024 12:04 PM (eDfFs)

216 Thanks, y’all. I am just going to let this soak in. I hope you have a good day.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 12:04 PM (pZEOD)

217 There was a man at my local municipal complex who had a large truck with a "Remember 9/11". I will never forget! "and it had a flag on it. I thanked him for his remembrance and we had a good chat about politics. He said that the township would not allow him to put a 9/11 remembrance flag up temporarily because it might be offensive to some people, so he was parking his truck sideways in the municipal complex.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2024 12:05 PM (dTTBf)

218 Sorry to hear that piper. Condolences and prayers.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 11, 2024 12:05 PM (4XwPj)

219 >>She is weak and not smart.

Fredoette. Time to take her fishing.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2024 12:05 PM (LkLld)

220 Budgets? We ain’t got no budgets! We don’t need no budgets! We don’t have to show you any stinking budgets!

Posted by: Uniparty at September 11, 2024 12:05 PM (a3Q+t)

221 My condolences Piper

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2024 12:06 PM (OW907)

222 We should, officially, as a nation, be going out of our way to "offend" anyone who might be offended by a 9/11 memorial.

We should have a SecState who would openly say "Oh, it's offensive to you? Good. Fuck You."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 12:07 PM (nPLkK)

223 I did not have "Haitian cannibals in Ohio" on my dance card for 2024.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 11, 2024 11:53 AM (VdhcA)

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I was close, only mine were from Papua New Guinea.

[h/t "Uncle Bosey" ]

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2024 12:07 PM (3+8Z6)

224 Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 12:01 PM (pZEOD)

What a shock for you and other friends and members of his family. May God be with all of you in the loss of this dear one and surround you with comfort. love and strength.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2024 12:08 PM (dTTBf)

225 I still think the big take-away from last night's debate is that it took 3 debaters to handle Trump,

Kamala couldn't do it by herself. Great Preezy material, huh?

She is weak and not smart.
Posted by: naturalfake

First she needed an emotional support governor for a softball interview and then she needed a team to debate Trump to what may have been a draw.
We can't spare this whore, she cackles.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 11, 2024 12:08 PM (4XwPj)

226 178
It was great that we eventually got Bin Laden…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2024 11:55 AM (5MZNC)
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Did we though? Did we see video of the body? Was it really BL? The haste in which it was dumped at sea was incredible. It should have been put in a body freezer, which I'm sure there are a few.

Posted by: Ciampino - never believe BHO at September 11, 2024 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

227 Wasn't Haiti a big deal during the primaries or something? That whole government collapsing (again) and dudes with machetes taking over?

Why does Haiti keep becoming A Thing when there's electioneering going on?

Is this like that TdA shit? Three-letters just keep a whole bullpen of mutants to trot out and fuck around whenever they need some shit stirred?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 12:09 PM (nPLkK)

228 good thoughts headed your way Piper.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 12:09 PM (CIS44)

229 The “conventional wisdom” that Trump “lost” the debate will quickly prove to be as much BS as is usually contained in conventional wisdom (eg… the Mideast needs a two state solution… total BS)

The ABC talking heads were her emotional support moderators in the absence of her emotional support Governor Walz

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2024 12:09 PM (OW907)

230 When did the USA go from gradual decline to Fall of Rome freefall? I think 9/11. But it may have been the 2008 housing bubble that gave us the Oblahblah Reign of Shittiness

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 11, 2024 12:10 PM (wBaIH)

231 I still contend that people, voters, have to experience some degree of discomfort before they begin to question why that is. The Democrat who'll vote Democrat no matter what isn't going to change even if they're cold, hungry and on the street.

But the Democrat who doesn't always vote along party line and who's hungry, cold and on the street might look at their previous choices and think; "maybe I should try something different."

Same goes for uncommitted voters.

The only variable is the degree of discomfort required to force some introspection. Some people have a very high tolerance to shit. Others don't. We're rapidly approaching the point where the shit really does matter.

Next time you're at the grocery store look at the other shoppers and note what they're buying. Bet it's not a lot of high end meats and processed foods. Those people are beginning to feel "uncomfortable."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2024 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

232 When did the USA go from gradual decline to Fall of Rome freefall? I think 9/11. But it may have been the 2008 housing bubble that gave us the Oblahblah Reign of Shittiness

My take - things started falling apart after the collapse of the USSR because now our elites didn't believe there were any real threats to them.

They formally took over the GOP in 1999 with the ascension of Pedo Hastert to most powerful Republican as House Speaker

Then things went into overdrive after Obama was re-elected. By this point the elites believed they could always have two leftists technocrats as a fake choice for the voters which is why they freaked out in 2016 when Trump beat Bush...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 12:12 PM (oZhjI)

233 The anger burns as brightly 23 years later as it did that day, and the enemity is unyielding. Muslims could disappear from the Earth totally and the relief would be palpable.

Meantime, do you think it would be a definite improvement to have all legislation be stand alone? I (and a bunch of us ) do.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 11, 2024 12:12 PM (hKoQL)

234 Meantime, do you think it would be a definite improvement to have all legislation be stand alone? I (and a bunch of us ) do.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA a

All legislation should fit on one sheet of paper size 16 font minimum.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 11, 2024 12:14 PM (CIS44)

235 One of the best 9-11 memorials is the Tear Drop memorial in NJ. Wish I could see it in person.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
To_the_Struggle_Against_World_Terrorism

(Weird ironic coincidence, it was given to us by Russia/Putin. They've covered up his name I think.)

Posted by: LizLem at September 11, 2024 12:14 PM (0uPDg)

236 9/11 killed any real chance of limited government.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 11, 2024 12:14 PM (7PziG)

237 When did the USA go from gradual decline to Fall of Rome freefall? I think 9/11. But it may have been the 2008 housing bubble that gave us the Oblahblah Reign of Shittiness
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 11, 2024 12:10 PM (wBaIH)

9/11 was certainly the start of the steep downhill fall, but I think the 2012 re-election of the chocolate messiah is when we went over the cliff.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 12:15 PM (g8Ew8)

238 Next time you're at the grocery store look at the other shoppers and note what they're buying. Bet it's not a lot of high end meats and processed foods. Those people are beginning to feel "uncomfortable."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2024 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

Seriously, don't look into shopping carts of others. It's worse than The Barrel in there.

You'll just sit there staring, wondering, then slowly look up and lock eyes with the weirdo, with your face looking like you just watched Eraserhead for the first time...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 12:16 PM (nPLkK)

239 yes the collapse of the USSR was an important trigger. Yet we still pretend the Russians are our greatest enemy.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 11, 2024 12:18 PM (wBaIH)

240 213 110 Plus we spent TRILLIONS of $$$$ that we don't have and 20 years in both Iraq and Afghanistan and they are exactly the same as when we invaded...
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If we had done it right and excluded the bureaucrats we would have their oil and Iran's too.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:19 PM (u7iQ0)

241 Critics have baselessly alleged the gold pearl loops - which Harris, 59, has worn before and are believed to be from Tiffany's - are actually a pair of smart audio earrings engineered by German start-up company NOVA.
_DM
Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 11:50 AM (u7iQ0)

Already being called "right wing conspiracy".

https://tinyurl.com/2534u9p4

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 11, 2024 12:20 PM (iODuv)

242 We could also be selling Afghanistan's opium to China.
They want to use chemical warfare, OK.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:20 PM (u7iQ0)

243 There are those who believe that all of this ugliness in the economy, the anti Jew demonstrations, the tranny and grooming shit, the open borders child sex trafficking and on and on, is the fault of one Barky Oblabo. It started in his first four, continued in the second four, and continues now at his command. I do not agree.

Everything that is going to hell in a hand basket started long before Barky and Big Mike showed up.

It started with warning labels. Stupid people were being stupid and someone decided they must be protected from their own stupidity and started putting warning labels on everything. It even extended to signs, such as the one we saw yesterday. At the end of a DRIVEWAY there was a sign admonishing us to "LOOK BOTH WAYS" before pulling out onto the highway!

TAKE THE FUCKING WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND LET DARWIN DO HIS FUCKING JOB!!! Cull the herd and get the stupidity out of the gene pool!!!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 11, 2024 12:22 PM (4XwPj)

244 >>>Already being called "right wing conspiracy".

https://tinyurl.com/2534u9p4
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
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Yes, the Daily Mail is an authority on Right Wing conspiracies.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:22 PM (u7iQ0)

245 > TAKE THE FUCKING WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND LET DARWIN DO HIS FUCKING JOB!!! Cull the herd and get the stupidity out of the gene pool!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
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This has merit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2024 12:23 PM (Q4IgG)

246 We could also be selling Afghanistan's opium to China.
They want to use chemical warfare, OK.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:20 PM (u7iQ0)

Hmmm. China is also a big producer of top-quality opium. Don't think think the Afghani stuff would sell well there.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 12:24 PM (g8Ew8)

247 >>>TAKE THE FUCKING WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND LET DARWIN DO HIS FUCKING JOB!!! Cull the herd and get the stupidity out of the gene pool!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
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You read the warning labels?

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:24 PM (u7iQ0)

248 The only thing I got out of last night's debate was that David Muir has shown himself to be nothing but a left wing partisan hack!!

Posted by: Bill R. at September 11, 2024 12:24 PM (lgnmY)

249 Love that Madamemayhem. Let's start sinking cruise ships too

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 11, 2024 12:25 PM (wBaIH)

250 Yes, the Daily Mail is an authority on Right Wing conspiracies.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:22 PM (u7iQ0)

WUTT?? They aren't?!? Damn!

Actually, the entire media has already gotten their marching orders on this one. Again, as I stressed earlier, the opposition MUST check for any and all possible communication devices. Or, just say, "nope, not showing up". The left (aided by the gov) will stop at nothing to win the grand prize

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 11, 2024 12:26 PM (iODuv)

251 Philadelphia pledges half a million dollars to Planned Parenthood

_Live Action News

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:26 PM (u7iQ0)

252 >>>Actually, the entire media has already gotten their marching orders on this one. Again, as I stressed earlier, the opposition MUST check for any and all possible communication devices. Or, just say, "nope, not showing up". The left (aided by the gov) will stop at nothing to win the grand prize
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
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Strip search? Or the old favorite, a jamming device that creates an annoying screechy sound. bzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:29 PM (u7iQ0)

253 We don't need OPEC's oil. We have the proven reserves to fulfill our needs for centuries OR long enough to develop an alternative heat/cooling resource.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 11, 2024 12:30 PM (hKoQL)

254 >>>TAKE THE FUCKING WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND LET DARWIN DO HIS FUCKING JOB!!! Cull the herd and get the stupidity out of the gene pool!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Good thing I read the safety instructions on my chain saw the other day as I was about to stop it with my crotch.

Posted by: F. Ferdball at September 11, 2024 12:31 PM (8I4hW)

255 Darwin works perfectly well, the drawback is he takes a long long time.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 11, 2024 12:34 PM (hKoQL)

256 TAKE THE FUCKING WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND LET DARWIN DO HIS FUCKING JOB!!! Cull the herd and get the stupidity out of the gene pool!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Good thing I read the safety instructions on my chain saw the other day as I was about to stop it with my crotch.
Posted by: F. Ferdball at September 11, 2024 12:31 PM (8I4hW)

Yup. That's a very important safety tip.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 12:35 PM (g8Ew8)

257 Actually, the entire media has already gotten their marching orders on this one. Again, as I stressed earlier, the opposition MUST check for any and all possible communication devices. Or, just say, "nope, not showing up". The left (aided by the gov) will stop at nothing to win the grand prize
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Strip search? Or the old favorite, a jamming device that creates an annoying screechy sound. bzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2024 12:29 PM (u7iQ0)

As I stated on a previous thread, a portable spectrum analyzer to check what frequencies are active in the area. Both "moderators" are wearing portable IFB receivers and wireless microphone transmitters. The IFB units are for the control room to communicate with them, either separately or simultaneously. It's not rocket science. Jamming is difficult because of the digital encryption of the carrier frequencies.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 11, 2024 12:45 PM (iODuv)

258 Andrew Cuomo, how very clever! I wish I had thought of doing it that way!

Posted by: Heinrich Himmler at September 11, 2024 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

259 256 TAKE THE FUCKING WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND LET DARWIN DO HIS FUCKING JOB!!! Cull the herd and get the stupidity out of the gene pool!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Good thing I read the safety instructions on my chain saw the other day as I was about to stop it with my crotch.
Posted by: F. Ferdball at September 11, 2024 12:31 PM (8I4hW)

Yup. That's a very important safety tip.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 11, 2024 12:35 PM (g8Ew

Reminds me of a comedian who said he had a solution to speeding: Have knives handing in front of drivers on a string; drivers will be sure to drive slowly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2024 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

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