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California Is Set to Approve Government-Subsidized Loans of $150,000 to Help Illegal Aliens Purchase Homes in the US

Kamala Harris is a lifelong California politician, of course.

I saw someone point out that Kamala's DNC speech deliberately omitted naming her home town: Berkeley, California.

I sure would like to hear her thoughts on this in an interview with literally any of the 1000 friendly media figures who want to help her win the election.

But she's too afraid and too incompetent to sit down even with Jim Acosta.


Lawmakers in California could soon make the Golden State the first in the country to make undocumented immigrants eligible for up to $150,000 in state-supported home loans.

The Democratic supermajority in the California state legislature is likely to pass a measure this week that would make undocumented immigrants eligible for the "California Dream for All" loan program, a state-funded program that provides 20% in down payment assistance up to $150,000, according to a report for Politico.

Participants in the program must be first-time homebuyers, and at least one must be a first-generation homebuyer, while income levels must be below certain limits depending on the county where the recipient lives.

The measure comes amid the backdrop of a national election in which immigration has taken center stage, the report notes, with the Trump campaign attempting to tie Vice President Kamala Harris to Biden administration border policies that have proven unpopular with voters.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has been one of President Biden's and now Harris' top surrogates on the campaign trail, has not said whether he will sign the bill into law if it clears the legislature before the Aug. 31 deadline.

He's as mum about this as his fellow traveler KA-ma-la.

...

Meanwhile, Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt told Politico the bill is "fundamentally unfair but typical Democrat policy."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:14 PM




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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:13 PM (GBKbO)

2 where does CA get the funding for this if they don't have a money printer like the Feds?

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 27, 2024 03:14 PM (V6W16)

3 So, another source of residents to be deported.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (FnneF)

4 Top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (J2vNu)

5 I sure would like to hear her thoughts on this in an interview with literally any of the 1000 friendly media figures who want to help her win the election.

=======

"I would, you see. I would sit with the nice people in the press. The press that makes, you know, the press that does the pressing of the press. It's just that, you see, in the press. When you press, you have to have a press that is willing to press."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

6 What are they buying for 150k in California?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (xZQNu)

7 If'n this passes... my home here in Calif will skyrocket in price...

Yeah, it'll go on the market toot sweet.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (xaFKb)

8 Who wants to bet California has a law against discriminating based on immigration status?

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (wej9e)

9 >>> 5 I sure would like to hear her thoughts on this in an interview with literally any of the 1000 friendly media figures who want to help her win the election.

=======

"I would, you see. I would sit with the nice people in the press. The press that makes, you know, the press that does the pressing of the press. It's just that, you see, in the press. When you press, you have to have a press that is willing to press."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

Kamalaladingdong's haiku sucks.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (FnneF)

10 Great news. Hope all the illegals go to California to get taxpayer paid housing, and leave the rest of the country.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (pohLc)

11 I heard Kamala is going around saying she grew up in Oakland to middle class parents...looking for the ghetto vibe I suppose.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (ZtyUu)

12

They know this is unpopular, but go ahead and do it anyway.

Is it just to give them free shit? Get them voting D, like they have another choice?

Seems to be other things at play here.

It's happening all across the globe at the same time.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (et1vG)

13 They are all ready getting free healthcare in CA and have since January. Citizens? Go see what garbage plan healthcare dot Gov has for you!

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (pZEOD)

14 Also, the Secretary of State is sending observers to Harris County to monitor the third-world Houston elections this year.

I suspect a whole bunch of Dems are going to lose this year.

Really unexplainable.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (VAkB9)

========

Trump will outright win Houston but lose PA, and the GOPe will blame it on Trump's not being a quality candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

15 6 What are they buying for 150k in California?
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (xZQNu)

The loan is one with no interest, and you don't have to pay it back until you sell the home.

And it's for the down payment of up to 20%... so homes up to $750K.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (xaFKb)

16 A hundred and fifty grand does not sound like much of a down payment, considering the utterly insane home prices being demanded in CA now. But then, the illegals are nto going to make any payments anyway,

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (J2vNu)

17 It isn't like the house prices will go up by $150,000 to cash in on this free money from the State or anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 27, 2024 03:16 PM (QNSds)

18 Willowed:

hank you! I will put the exercise of the day in the next thread.
Posted by: Piper

I thought that now our exercise was kowtowing to our new Imperial Majesty, Empress and Autocrat of all the AoSHQ Threads? (Ya know, you.)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (v6JzV)

19 >>But she's too afraid and too incompetent to sit down even with Jim Acosta.

As the now odious Quinten Tarantino has opined, why sit down for an interview when you don't have to?

The MSM and the rest of the NPCs will be more than happy to carry Kambala The Horrible's Water for as long as it takes to win one for the team.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (XV/Pl)

20 If you are an illegal with any business sense this is a gold mine.

Apply to the program with a dozen fake identities and now you've got a small real estate empire to rent out to people.

Oh and of course this will dramatically raise the cost of housing for people in CA...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (oZhjI)

21 What are they buying for 150k in California?
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM (xZQNu)

The loan is one with no interest, and you don't have to pay it back until you sell the home.

And it's for the down payment of up to 20%... so homes up to $750K.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024


***
Oh, so a shack down under the freeway.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (J2vNu)

22 >>The loan is one with no interest, and you don't have to pay it back until you sell the home.


Damn.
Think of what actual American Citizens could do with that kind of leg up?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (xZQNu)

23 They really aren't hiding it that they are trying to replace the unruly population with a more malleable one.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (zjgNU)

24 "another source of residents to be deported."

Soon we'll be able to return California to Mexico and be done with them.

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (wej9e)

25 11 I heard Kamala is going around saying she grew up in Oakland to middle class parents...looking for the ghetto vibe I suppose.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024

I wonder how many people know she grew up in Canada? And not just anywhere Canada. I forget people aren’t like us, who are political junkies, so I am guess not many.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (pZEOD)

26 So happy we left CA for TX this year.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (ZtyUu)

27 >>> 23 They really aren't hiding it that they are trying to replace the unruly population with a more malleable one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (zjgNU)

We're *fortifying* the population of Our Precious Democracy!

Posted by: TIME Magazine at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (FnneF)

28 The policy is that they hate real American's guts.

Really, that's all it is - they want you to die, and hopefully you'll just be alienated and dispirited enough to do it by your own hand.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (ssz2a)

29 When your government cares more for illegals than they do for you, they’re not your government anymore.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (u73oe)

30 I still don't understand the true purpose of this program. No illegal will ever be able to get a mortgage for a new home, making a free 20% subsidy irrelevant. Banks are subject to fairly strict lending requirements. No illegal will qualify.

So what's this program really about? I'm sure it's some kind of graft or slushfund or sleazy way to stuff cash in Democrap donors' filthy pockets. But I'm just not sure how it will work in practice.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

31 where does CA get the funding for this if they don't have a money printer like the Feds?
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything
____________

I bet this is under some HHS program involving fed matching funds.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (Dm8we)

32 What are they buying for 150k in California?
Posted by: garrett

2003 Winnebago Freedom 40 footer.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * unburdened at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (jC7hV)

33 The GOPe couldn't field a quality candidate if they had 5 years to get primed. They came up with shit. Nothing but shit. Trump is the highest quality candidate to come out of the GOP since Reagan, and he didn't come out of the GOPe.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (pohLc)

34 @12

>>Is it just to give them free shit? Get them voting D, like they have another choice?

It's all of those things and to simply get money moving.

As money moves, the well connected dip their beaks, some of it falls out of the truck, and in the end, perhaps 10pct get to the final recipient of what the entire endeavor was supposed to be about.

See Ukraine and ever other government program as an analog.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (XV/Pl)

35 30 I still don't understand the true purpose of this program. No illegal will ever be able to get a mortgage for a new home, making a free 20% subsidy irrelevant. Banks are subject to fairly strict lending requirements. No illegal will qualify.

So what's this program really about? I'm sure it's some kind of graft or slushfund or sleazy way to stuff cash in Democrap donors' filthy pockets. But I'm just not sure how it will work in practice.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

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An NGO will take it upon itself to somehow front the process for the disaffected illegals. They will fill out so many paperworks. So few illegals will get homes. Those at the NGO will get the money, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

36 "Participants in the program must be first-time homebuyers, and at least one must be a first-generation homebuyer, while income levels must be below certain limits depending on the county where the recipient lives."

Some of these type loans (Seattle?) were available ONLY for illegals. This one ... it's not clear, sounds like citizens could also participate?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (Cus5s)

37
I wonder how many people know she grew up in Canada? And not just anywhere Canada. I forget people aren’t like us, who are political junkies, so I am guess not many.


When I got to lefty forums catering to dot Indians Kamala is the most Indian Indian to ever Indian

When I go to lefty forums catering to black people Kamala is a forum hood rat who is down with the struggle

When I go to lefty forums catering to AWFLs she is the most AWFL AWFL to ever AWFL.

And for the record the last one is the only one that's actually true...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (oZhjI)

38 150k in CA might get you a double wide trailer somewhere in death valley.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (ZtyUu)

39 Oh, so a shack down under the freeway.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (J2vNu)

I live in Central Valley Calif.

Home was built in 1958... 2000 sq ft... built in swimming pool.

Due to this being an economically depressed area, Zillow say my house is worth about $425K. With closing costs of about 35K... I can't move most nicer places and replace my Paid for home.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (xaFKb)

40 Lawmakers in California could soon make the Golden State the first in the country to make undocumented immigrants eligible for up to $150,000 in state-supported home loans.
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So this is an example of yet another White Wing blogger, raging in his basement as he misconstrues everything about a program designed to help our people. It isn't for "illegal aliens." Setting aside that deeply problematic and othering language, this is a general program run by the State of California to help its residents. All they are doing is modifying the acceptance criteria to help those who live in California achieve the American Dream in California.

He also leaves out various conditions for the loan. This is a hand up, not a hand out. The loan is in fact repayable. It is repaid when the property is sold later. The loan is also not "free." A piece of the property's appreciation is remitted to the state when the loan is repaid.

What we have here is a sensible, safe program to promote California's greater social good, which is structured to give both the buyer and the state an interest in the property. This is how you build stable communities and help everyone at once.

Be better, all of you.

Posted by: Your Kid's Public Policy Professor at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (HnUIn)

41 23 They really aren't hiding it that they are trying to replace the unruly population with a more malleable one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 27, 2024

A here is the rub - anyone who has been to someplace other than Cancun knows how “malleable” this contingent is. We are importing some very scary things. I live in Alabama and we are not the designation of choice for illegals for a lot of reasons, but even here, we had a young child killed by a drunk driver who shouldn’t be here (don’t get me started on her mom) and just yesterday, a dispute was resolved by one cutting the other’s neck.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:21 PM (pZEOD)

42 What are they buying for 150k in California?

Nothing. It's a down payment. On a wooden shipping crate.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 27, 2024 03:21 PM (/y8xj)

43 It's not government subsidized loans, it's tax payer subsidized.

Otherwise great post

Posted by: Your at August 27, 2024 03:21 PM (341s2)

44 33 The GOPe couldn't field a quality candidate if they had 5 years to get primed. They came up with shit. Nothing but shit. Trump is the highest quality candidate to come out of the GOP since Reagan, and he didn't come out of the GOPe.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (pohLc)

========

"You were tough shit in your little pond of WI, but if you want to swim with the sharks, you will be for open borders, bitch."
-GOPe donors

"Yes, sir."
-bitch Scott Walker

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:21 PM (GBKbO)

45 >>> 24
==
Soon we'll be able to return California to Mexico and be done with them.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (wej9e)

No thanks, the CCP would be building bases in no time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:21 PM (FnneF)

46
I walked away from settlement on my first home with less then twenty five dollars left in my checking account. Nobody gave me anything.

I'm pretty sure this will bankrupt Californication in the end and Trump can tell them to go to hell.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (RKVpM)

47 When your government cares more for illegals than they do for you, they’re not your government anymore.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (u73oe)
________

True, but they don't care about illegals. They care about what illegals can do for them. And they can do a lot. Illegal Invader Inc. is a multi-billion dollar business. A very high percentage of that gets sluffed off the top by Democraps and their donors. It's a very lucrative racket.

Then there are the extra votes, increased voter rolls, and a generally very pliable new electorate.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

48 Meanwhile, Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt told Politico the bill is "fundamentally unfair but typical Democrat policy."
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He ain't wrong.

But he should leave it at that. This is a CA issue, and he is running for Federal office. Unless he has a policy proposal in mind to deal with places like CA and WA who do this crap - like cutting *all* federal funding to "sanctuary" jurisdictions altogether, or punitive measures for spending taxpayer money on illegals - he should just leave it at a simple comment that it's all bullshit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (HnUIn)

49 "No thanks, the CCP would be building bases in no time."

But at least I won't be paying for them.

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (wej9e)

50 The GOPe couldn't field a quality candidate if they had 5 years to get primed. They came up with shit. Nothing but shit. Trump is the highest quality candidate to come out of the GOP since Reagan, and he didn't come out of the GOPe.

Non-leftist voters want the opposite of a GOPe candidate. Socially liberal, pro-corporate, and expensive drawn out wars are not going to get you to a majority of the vote.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (oZhjI)

51 Hacienda CDC is the front for these loan offers. They are all over the country.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (qLP0s)

52 It just passed the Senate, heading back to the Assembly because some changes were made.

>>What are they buying for 150k in California?

Nothing. The money from the state, up to 150K, is for "down payment assistance".

How you like them apples, California citizens?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:22 PM (LkLld)

53 >>> 26 So happy we left CA for TX this year.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 03:18 PM (ZtyUu)

Have I pestered you to come to the TX MoMee this year?

You should come to the TX MoMee this year.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (FnneF)

54 40 . It is repaid when the property is sold later

You are really good at this and should work in political coms! 😂. You left off the part where the pay back is up to 20% on a sliding scale based on income. So not the whole thing.

Sometimes I wonder what channeling the left’s thought processes does to our brains.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (pZEOD)

55
Old: A chicken in every pot!

New: A 3 bedroom 1 1/2 bath for everyone!

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (+oR7L)

56 Rich boomers using tax payer money to subsidize their home values and politicians using poor people to buy votes. A great match until the money runs out. So far the money has not run out.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (sX1BW)

57 Elect a government that loves you as much as Democrats love illegal aliens

Posted by: Shenanigans at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (ZSNhk)

58 So what's this program really about? I'm sure it's some kind of graft or slushfund or sleazy way to stuff cash in Democrap donors' filthy pockets. But I'm just not sure how it will work in practice.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

Something is going on with the Banking industry, because illegals ARE getting car loans and such.

And I've seen evidence of them getting business loans, that regular citizens don't qualify for. So, like their rent, someone is subsidizing them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (xaFKb)

59 Have I pestered you to come to the TX MoMee this year?

You should come to the TX MoMee this year.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (FnneF)

I'm shy.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 03:24 PM (ZtyUu)

60 Nice and hard you douchebags Nice and hard.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 27, 2024 03:24 PM (/U5Yz)

61 Part of this is buying the votes of illegals, but I guarantee CA's Four Families have positioned themselves to take advantage.

Since this will explode the cost of real estate there are several ways you could do it all mostly legal...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:24 PM (oZhjI)

62 Having collected the Country's Homeless...California embarks on a scheme to attract the Country's Newest Gangs.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:24 PM (xZQNu)

63
Will the last tax paying worker in California please shut off the lights when you leave?

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 27, 2024 03:24 PM (+oR7L)

64 where does CA get the funding for this if they don't have a money printer like the Feds?
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything

The taxpaying productive class. Some idiot said about Musk moving his HQ out of SanFran to TX, "Good riddance!" Go ahead and hate him but that has got to hurt an already hurt situation. Say good riddance and flounce out of the room as your saying it - you are killing what was once a beautiful, wealthy state where even lower income people could live a decent and safe life.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2024 03:25 PM (oiNtH)

65 Government Subsidized
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Taxpayer Subsidized

Posted by: ... at August 27, 2024 03:25 PM (4DWWO)

66 $150K will get you a fortified cardboard box home in a 12x12 alley lot. Plumbing will consist of a composting toilet and a bucket.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (/U5Yz)

67 >>> 41
==
A here is the rub - anyone who has been to someplace other than Cancun knows how “malleable” this contingent is. We are importing some very scary things. I live in Alabama and we are not the designation of choice for illegals for a lot of reasons, but even here, we had a young child killed by a drunk driver who shouldn’t be here (don’t get me started on her mom) and just yesterday, a dispute was resolved by one cutting the other’s neck.
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:21 PM (pZEOD)

There is a reason - several reasons - that Michael Yon refers to these cultures as HIGHLY PREDATORY.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (FnneF)

68 It seems like just yesterday the missus and I were scrimping and saving and sacrificing so that we could scrape together $20k for a down payment on the worst house on the block which had had a fire in the kitchen, needed a roof, and windows, and copper and then pay Private Mortgage Insurance for another decade.
Oh yeah, interest rate for our first loan?
12.75 percent.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (MeG8a)

69 kamala can't answer questions now, her thoughts are up there in the cloud.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (CWTWj)

70 I still don't understand the true purpose of this program. No illegal will ever be able to get a mortgage for a new home, making a free 20% subsidy irrelevant. Banks are subject to fairly strict lending requirements. No illegal will qualify.

So what's this program really about? I'm sure it's some kind of graft or slushfund or sleazy way to stuff cash in Democrap donors' filthy pockets. But I'm just not sure how it will work in practice.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

=======

An NGO will take it upon itself to somehow front the process for the disaffected illegals. They will fill out so many paperworks. So few illegals will get homes. Those at the NGO will get the money, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:20 PM (GBKbO)
______

Maybe, but the real money's not in paperwork. It's in stealing the $150k. I think more likely the scam will involve doing just that. I'm just not sure how. Possibly they can somehow get their hands on the money before closing, without a bank commitment, without the sale ever closing or being expected to. The "seller" then keeps the deposit.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (iFTx/)

71 57 Elect a government that loves you as much as Democrats love illegal aliens


that is a FANTASTIC tag line! hope whoever monitors us for PDJT swipes it!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (s3qiR)

72 Part of this is buying the votes of illegals, but I guarantee CA's Four Families have positioned themselves to take advantage.
Posted by 18-1

Which families are those?

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2024 03:26 PM (oiNtH)

73 Free down payments. Must be nice.

And the way this scheme is structured, CA gets paid back when the house is sold. In lieu of interest, the state gets a piece of the appreciation.

So assuming a $500k house, the "buyer" will get $100k for the down payment. He does not have to make payments on that loan. When he sells the house, the $100k is repaid to the state. If the house is now worth $600k, the state gets 20% of the $100k in appreciation, so the total repayment to the state is $120k. Sometime in the future. Eventually.

But what happens during foreclosure? I bet a lot of these end in foreclosure. What happens if there's a market downturn?

Well, then the state doesn't get made whole. The money is just gone. The risk belongs to the state. They take that risk on. For illegals and "first-generation" citizens. This is a *big* handout with lots of balance sheet risks that are wished away through accounting fiction, made available even to those who have been here illegally.

What a program. Makes a man proud to be a Californian, eh?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (HnUIn)

74 6 What are they buying for 150k in California?
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An abandoned miners shack out towards 29 Palms.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (FmapG)

75 Does the Constitutional guarantee that "No state shall... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" strike a familiar note?

How can illegals get bennies that citizens cannot?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (Wh0jq)

76 I live in Alabama and we are not the designation of choice for illegals for a lot of reasons

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Nick Saban retiring?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (sX1BW)

77 The $150,000 is not to buy a home. It is down payment money.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (LkLld)

78
Sorry CA Morons.

Then Californians, and ONLY Californians need to be the Other People's Money that inevitably bails this cluster fuck out when it fails.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (MsrgL)

79 Have two friends who live together in LA. They pay more for a one bedroom apartment each month than we pay for our four bedroom house payment in Georgia. One of them had to drain his 401K to pay the bills the past two years. Of course, they will never have enough money for a down payment on a home there, ever.

They vote Democratic.

I told then to move to Georgia, but they are in "show biz" and still think they will have their big break someday. They are delusional.

Posted by: joseph dickerson at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (JTyPA)

80 "They really aren't hiding it that they are trying to replace the unruly population with a more malleable one."

MS-13, Venezuelan gangs, China gangs, Muslims, etc. They aren't always malleable.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (Cus5s)

81 on the bright side, maybe when trump is pres again and his party controls both houses of congress, we can let california go off on its own and then they can have their own central bank that can print all the money they could possibly need. they can call it the federal deserve system

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (CWTWj)

82 The 150K (which is up to 20% of home pric) is to put illegals in cheaper rural areas and thereby negate any R winning.

These illegals aren't going to be in Beverly Hills, Brentwood or San Jose. Already D areas.

And these D area won't have to worry about illegals in their neighborhoods.

It's that simple

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (FxH7T)

83 So what's this program really about? I'm sure it's some kind of graft or slushfund or sleazy way to stuff cash in Democrap donors' filthy pockets. But I'm just not sure how it will work in practice.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

Something is going on with the Banking industry, because illegals ARE getting car loans and such.

And I've seen evidence of them getting business loans, that regular citizens don't qualify for. So, like their rent, someone is subsidizing them.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:23 PM (xaFKb)
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Yes, but car loans are a different animal. Many of the low-income, high-risk loans are private lender's money, often the dealer's own money. That's how it was done when I was in the car business. There are no restrictions on that kind of lending.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (iFTx/)

84 32 What are they buying for 150k in California?
Posted by: garrett

2003 Winnebago Freedom 40 footer.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * unburdened at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (jC7hV)

The state has paid for old winnebagos for sex offenders to live in. They keep moving the camper and park it next to rural properties on Highway 1, the sex offenders have 24 hour guards watching them. So this doesn't surprise me at all.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (tMjDM)

85 78
Sorry CA Morons.

Then Californians, and ONLY Californians need to be the Other People's Money that inevitably bails this cluster fuck out when it fails.
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May I introduce you to High Speed Rail?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (FmapG)

86 I'm still waiting for my BAMA phone !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (NtVYv)

87 Looking at the CA budget its largest source of income is the income tax on residents.

I suspect Bidenflation is actually helping them here since it will push you up into higher brackets even if your actual purchasing power is flat.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:29 PM (oZhjI)

88 Texas AG Ken Paxton Launches Election Fraud Raids on Latino Democrats’ Homes, Including State House Candidate and a Local Mayor — Officers Seized 65 Cellphones and 41 Computers

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 27, 2024 03:29 PM (/U5Yz)

89 82 The 150K (which is up to 20% of home pric) is to put illegals in cheaper rural areas and thereby negate any R winning.

These illegals aren't going to be in Beverly Hills, Brentwood or San Jose. Already D areas.

And these D area won't have to worry about illegals in their neighborhoods.

It's that simple
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (FxH7T)

VERY good point.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (xaFKb)

90 80 "They really aren't hiding it that they are trying to replace the unruly population with a more malleable one."

MS-13, Venezuelan gangs, China gangs, Muslims, etc. They aren't always malleable.
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Would they make suitable jerky?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (FmapG)

91 So what's this program really about? I'm sure it's some kind of graft or slushfund or sleazy way to stuff cash in Democrap donors' filthy pockets. But I'm just not sure how it will work in practice.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)
++++
1. Developer slaps up "subsidized housing" with some taxpayer gimmies to prop up his bottom line
2. Properties are sold to buyers with down payment assistance, ensuring the developer makes his money back
3. Properties are financed through "special circumstances" lenders (subprime vultures) with pals in the Party who help them fast-track the paperwork through the byzantine program. Unnavigable for those not connected
4. The mortgage originator gets the down payment
5. The loan is securitized with the primary risk offloaded into the subprime market
6. Everyone in the chain soaks his beak and a sub-standard property is delivered to an illegal alien who doesn't know how to care for it
7. Foreclosure
8. The substandard property is flipped through the "low-income housing" initiatives
9. CA writes off the unrepayable down payment
10. Deficit grows

Just a guess

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (HnUIn)

92 >>> 88 Texas AG Ken Paxton Launches Election Fraud Raids on Latino Democrats’ Homes, Including State House Candidate and a Local Mayor — Officers Seized 65 Cellphones and 41 Computers

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 27, 2024 03:29 PM (/U5Yz)

FACISTS!!!

REEEEE!!!!!

Posted by: leftists at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (FnneF)

93 Buying illegals with taxpayers money
Way to go Kalifornia.
Hope every illegal goes there

Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (fwDg9)

94 If you are an illegal with any business sense this is a gold mine.

Apply to the program with a dozen fake identities and now you've got a small real estate empire to rent out to people.

Oh and of course this will dramatically raise the cost of housing for people in CA...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:17 PM (oZhjI)


This is a slush fund for NGOs and strip mall douchebags with "Immigracion Abogado" stickers on their windows.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (y9nCu)

95 I still don't understand the true purpose of this program. No illegal will ever be able to get a mortgage for a new home, making a free 20% subsidy irrelevant. Banks are subject to fairly strict lending requirements. No illegal will qualify.



Maybe, but the real money's not in paperwork. It's in stealing the $150k. I think more likely the scam will involve doing just that. I'm just not sure how.

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The government is handing out $150,000. Default on housing are born by the taxpayer. So the taxpayer gives the down payment and then absorbs the default.

I'm fairly certain banks will figure it out.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at August 27, 2024 03:31 PM (sX1BW)

96 82 The 150K (which is up to 20% of home pric) is to put illegals in cheaper rural areas and thereby negate any R winning.

I'm in CA... 150 thousand won't buy you anything.. Is it for down payment on a house ? Hope they can afford the other 600 thousand

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 03:31 PM (IyPmt)

97 >>> 93 Buying illegals with taxpayers money
Way to go Kalifornia.
Hope every illegal goes there
Posted by: Skip at August 27, 2024 03:30 PM (fwDg9)

DeSantis and Abbott should send ALL the busses there.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (FnneF)

98 18 Willowed:

hank you! I will put the exercise of the day in the next thread.
Posted by: Piper

I thought that now our exercise was kowtowing to our new Imperial Majesty, Empress and Autocrat of all the AoSHQ Threads? (Ya know, you.)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27

That is the warmup.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (p4NUW)

99 I still don't understand the true purpose of this program. No illegal will ever be able to get a mortgage for a new home, making a free 20% subsidy irrelevant. Banks are subject to fairly strict lending requirements. No illegal will qualify. ...
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Yet illegals regularly get bank accounts. And leases. And phones. And utilities.

The "know your customer" laws don't seem to apply when it comes to illegals.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (HnUIn)

100 @91

I think I saw that movie.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (CIS44)

101 "So assuming a $500k house, the "buyer" will get $100k for the down payment. He does not have to make payments on that loan. When he sells the house, the $100k is repaid to the state. If the house is now worth $600k, the state gets 20% of the $100k in appreciation, so the total repayment to the state is $120k. Sometime in the future. Eventually."

Who puts up the money for the rest of the cost of the house? And if the state only gets 20%, the illegal rakes in the rest? Or does that go to pay off the loan?

I don't get it.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (Cus5s)

102 If I were an illegal under this program I'd arrange at least 10 freebies under different names and would high tail it back home and live like a fucking king.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (FmapG)

103 I guess if it comforts you that this will go like most CA programs. Insiders will buy up all the loan money and fake illegals will front. They get 10 grand and default and the government pays.

That's what happened with the Covid support for businesses.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (n7h9X)

104 So they are helping with down payments of up to $150,000 but you have to have an income below a certain amount? Gee, what could go wrong? I'm old enough to remember the last time unqualified people were given loans.

Posted by: ryukyu at August 27, 2024 03:33 PM (lmKVt)

105
Now, here is a program that I would watch!

This mirrors the plot of one of the most popular Soviet comedies: "Ivan Vasilevich Changes His Profession", where a Russian experimenter creates a time machine, and sends his obnoxious apartment manager back to the court of Ivan the Terrible, and brings Ivan the Terrible to modern-day Moscow. (The apartment manager and Ivan the Terrible were played by the same actor.)
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:33 PM (xG4kz)

106 CA's Four Families: Brown, Pelosi, Newsom, Getty

Harris for example got her start having sex with Brown and then suddenly found his political support...and Getty money...earning her political office.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2024 03:33 PM (oZhjI)

107 An abandoned miners shack out towards 29 Palms.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (FmapG)


You asked for it (Sponge TM):

https://youtu.be/wD5qPWHIDPo

Posted by: spindrift at August 27, 2024 03:33 PM (OguvZ)

108 I thought CA was a couple hundred zillion in the whole

where does this money come from

Posted by: Don Black, making copies at August 27, 2024 03:34 PM (/7KEl)

109 99 Yet illegals regularly get bank accounts. And leases. And phones. And utilities.

The "know your customer" laws don't seem to apply when it comes to illegals.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (HnUIn)

=======

Dolley works in fraud in one of the Big Three Banks.

She's mentioned the KYC element, expressing frustrations that it's maintained...purely for regulatory reasons.

She has access to ATM footage showing a line of men at 11 at night at the same machine feeding $20,000 at a time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

110 “We’ve Been Steamrolled”: Fishermen Protest Offshore Wind Following Turbine Failure That Shed Debris Into the Atlantic.
Scores of fishermen took to the seas Sunday to protest offshore wind developments after a damaged wind blade scattered toxic debris off the coast of Massachusetts.

More joy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 27, 2024 03:34 PM (/U5Yz)

111 Didn't the same type of thing lead to the economic bust of 2008?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 27, 2024 03:35 PM (k9OZB)

112 Trump will outright win Houston but lose PA, and the GOPe will blame it on Trump's not being a quality candidate.
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Yup.
Add in that the former election official is under felony indictment; that the suit by the R judge is proceeding after it was found there were enough "questionable" ballots to effect the outcome.

There are 6 million in the Houston MSA.
There are 13 million in all of Pennsylvania.

I've long said that Harris Co Dems put about 100k phantom ballots into the count because every Dem "won" by at least that much. Like way, way down ballot Dems.
I really, really, really hope Paxton is not telling the Dem County Clerks which names have been removed.
Talk about a massive sting operation to roll up the entire TX Dem Party.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:35 PM (VAkB9)

113 79; I told then to move to Georgia, but they are in "show biz" and still think they will have their big break someday. They are delusional.
Posted by: joseph dickerson at August 27, 2024 03

ATL is a hot hub now for showbiz. Not that I want any more dems moving there.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:35 PM (p4NUW)

114
What are they buying for 150k in California?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:15 PM


I had a couple look at my present residence for sale around year Y2K. They were from California and said it would be two million in California.

Zillow thinks it's worth half that. I don't agree. I want two million in Y2K California dollars. At least fifty 'newcomers' could live in this place.

Did I mention I don't like my neighbors that much. I mean Mexican radio at 2 am, and an endless stream of cars in and out all hours of the day and night can't be that bad? Hey neighbors, keep voting for the leftists, okay? 'Cause I gotta surprise for you if I go that route.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 27, 2024 03:35 PM (RKVpM)

115
where does this money come from


** spoken in Donald Trump voice **

Chy-Na. It comes from Chy-Na.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (xG4kz)

116 I saw someone point out that Kamala's DNC speech deliberately omitted naming her home town: Berkeley, California.

Kamala was born in an Oakland hospital, so she pretends she is from Oakland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (uxCna)

117 112 I've long said that Harris Co Dems put about 100k phantom ballots into the count because every Dem "won" by at least that much. Like way, way down ballot Dems.
I really, really, really hope Paxton is not telling the Dem County Clerks which names have been removed.
Talk about a massive sting operation to roll up the entire TX Dem Party.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:35 PM (VAkB9)

=======

TX Democrats have ties to national Democrats...there could be RICO implications...

It'd be fun if Paxton got the DNC into a court on RICO charges.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (GBKbO)

118 >>> 109

=======

Dolley works in fraud in one of the Big Three Banks.

She's mentioned the KYC element, expressing frustrations that it's maintained...purely for regulatory reasons.

She has access to ATM footage showing a line of men at 11 at night at the same machine feeding $20,000 at a time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

Apparently "Know Your Customer" is racist and/or some other -ist when applied to certain people.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (FnneF)

119 Who puts up the money for the rest of the cost of the house? And if the state only gets 20%, the illegal rakes in the rest? Or does that go to pay off the loan?

I don't get it.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (Cus5s)
++++
Same as any other property transaction.

You buy a house with 20% down. You sell it later. The lender gets paid out (mortgage is paid off), you pocket the difference. If the property appreciated, you get your down payment back plus the additional.

This is no different, it's just that there's a "silent second" mortgage at origination. Both lenders (in this case, the mortgage lender and the State of California) get paid off, and the difference belongs to the buyer.

So let's take the example above of the $500k house (100% financed, 80/20 with the 20 as a "silent second") that sells for $600k. Assume no repayment at all to keep the math easy. Of that $600k:
- $400k to the mortgage lender (he is paid back)
- $100k to the State of California (it is paid back)
- $20k to the State of California (appreciation sharing requirement)
- $80k to the original borrower/buyer (profit from appreciation)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (HnUIn)

120 107 An abandoned miners shack out towards 29 Palms.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:27 PM (FmapG)

You asked for it (Sponge TM):

https://youtu.be/wD5qPWHIDPo
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I used to test out there back at the height of the Clinton Mortgage Ponzi Scheme. I met people (LA beings) bragging about buying abandoned miners desert cabins for serious money. California is remarkably stupid.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (FmapG)

121 Dolley works in fraud in one of the Big Three Banks.

She's mentioned the KYC element, expressing frustrations that it's maintained...purely for regulatory reasons.

She has access to ATM footage showing a line of men at 11 at night at the same machine feeding $20,000 at a time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

Apparently "Know Your Customer" is racist and/or some other -ist when applied to certain people.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I prefer the KFC element

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 27, 2024 03:37 PM (CIS44)

122 MS-13, Venezuelan gangs, China gangs, Muslims, etc. They aren't always malleable.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:28 PM (Cus5s)


But they will subjugate and oppress an otherwise unruly population. Look how efficiently they controlled El Salvador and Lebanon

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:37 PM (D7oie)

123 I think, for those of you asking "how is this supposed to work," you need to ask a different question. It's NOT supposed to work.

It's a money laundering scheme. So the only question is, who is getting the money?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:37 PM (dGCAG)

124 CA's Four Families: Brown, Pelosi, Newsom, Getty
Posted by 18-1

Thank you.

Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (oiNtH)

125 Isn't everyone in GA a rapper?

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (Z8Yh2)

126 Stack this program with the insane California stance on squatters rights and you get a free house, with the state fronting the money to clear the current residents from the premises.

Posted by: techsan at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (uNveu)

127 Kamala was born in an Oakland hospital, so she pretends she is from Oakland.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:36 PM (uxCna)


I think she grew up in a swanky neighborhood in Toronto, that is what Viva Frei claims.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (D7oie)

128 CA's Four Families: Brown, Pelosi, Newsom, Getty
Posted by 18-1

What, no Clampetts?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (v6JzV)

129 Participants in the program must be first-time homebuyers, and at least one must be a first-generation homebuyer

That's the killer - the "first-generation" homebuyer is designed to weed out non-immigrants.

Your parents paid $25,000 for a house in Oklahoma in the 1980s? Tough - you don't qualify.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (uxCna)

130 125 Isn't everyone in GA a rapper?
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 27

Don’t confuse GA with ATL.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (p4NUW)

131 >>But they will subjugate and oppress an otherwise unruly population. Look how efficiently they controlled El Salvador and Lebanon

Look at what they are currently doing to Aurora, Colorado.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (LkLld)

132
Didn't the same type of thing lead to the economic bust of 2008?
Posted by: hobbitopoly


You are correct sid!

** gives an Ed McMahon Chuckle of Obsequiousness **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (xG4kz)

133 I prefer the KFC element
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 27, 2024 03:37 PM (CIS44)

I'm more of a Honda guy, but the Element is gay.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

134 I still don't understand the true purpose of this program. No illegal will ever be able to get a mortgage for a new home, making a free 20% subsidy irrelevant. Banks are subject to fairly strict lending requirements. No illegal will qualify. ...
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Yet illegals regularly get bank accounts. And leases. And phones. And utilities.

The "know your customer" laws don't seem to apply when it comes to illegals.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (HnUIn)
_______

All true. But none of those are mortgages. It's not just know your customer. The banks need to confirm that the applicant has credit, a verifiable income, a real job, and can repay the loan. No illegal can do that.

Plus, of all the stories of things that illegals get over the years, I've never once heard of them buying homes. Seriously, when have you ever heard of an illegal buying a home? They live 50 to an apartment in rentals.

There's something else going on with this program. I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that not a single illegal actually gets a home through it.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (iFTx/)

135 Stack this program with the insane California stance on squatters rights and you get a free house, with the state fronting the money to clear the current residents from the premises.
Posted by: techsan at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (uNveu)


well, that will indeed solve most of CA's Prop 13 issues.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (D7oie)

136 Who puts up the money for the rest of the cost of the house? And if the state only gets 20%, the illegal rakes in the rest? Or does that go to pay off the loan?

I don't get it.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:32 PM (Cus5s)

Another wrinkle is that Prop 13 freezes what the property tax is from when you bought the house and rate increases due to value are limited. Getting an old property into a sale means a big kick in the tax assessment.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (n7h9X)

137 I thought CA was a couple hundred zillion in the whole

where does this money come from
Posted by: Don Black, making copies at August 27, 2024 03:34 PM (/7KEl)
++++
It is, and from the same place as the rest of the hole: the capital markets, in two ways.

First is state bonds. CA still sells them and people still buy them.
Second is taxes, which in CA are largely downstream from the capital markets. When the market is hot, CA state government is usually awash in cash as the Silicon Valley guys with loads of stock-based compensation (SBC) cash out. When the market sucks, the tax revenues tend to fall precipitously. CA state revenues are particularly sensitive to the stock market in a way that is not true in other states.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (HnUIn)

138 >Did I mention I don't like my neighbors that much. I mean Mexican radio at 2 am, and an endless stream of cars in and out all hours of the day and night can't be that bad?
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I'd be homicidal


I kid of course 😉

Posted by: Don Black, making copies at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (/7KEl)

139 I think she grew up in a swanky neighborhood in Toronto, that is what Viva Frei claims.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (D7oie)

Yes.. And before that she lived in Berkley not Oakland

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (IyPmt)

140 that would make undocumented immigrants eligible for the "California Dream for All" loan program, a state-funded program that provides 20% in down payment assistance up to $150,000, according to a report for Politico.

Participants in the program must be first-time homebuyers, and at least one must be a first-generation homebuyer, while income levels must be below certain limits depending on the county where the recipient lives.


Now drop in the kicker.

That "up to $150,000 DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PAID BACK until the house is sold plus 20%".


How many are betting that "loan" will be forgotten about in 20 or 25 years. And if they sell it and don't make $150k +20% free and clear, where's the money coming from to pay the state back?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (m5o7j)

141
Awww, crap

... sir

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (xG4kz)

142 It's a money laundering scheme. So the only question is, who is getting the money?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:37 PM (dGCAG

It's a real estate laundering scheme. Money is secondary.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (BAEGB)

143 Texas AG Ken Paxton Launches Election Fraud Raids on Latino Democrats’ Homes, Including State House Candidate and a Local Mayor — Officers Seized 65 Cellphones and 41 Computers
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Damn.

Just how red will Texas get?

Now you see why the George W Cuck clan was so desperate to stop Paxton.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (VAkB9)

144 >>I think she grew up in a swanky neighborhood in Toronto, that is what Viva Frei claims.

Toronto? How gauche. It was Montreal.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)

145 I think she grew up in a swanky neighborhood in Toronto, that is what Viva Frei claims.

Kamala grew up in a very left-wing household in Berkeley when her mom was teaching at Cal, and then went to a fancy high school in Montreal when her mom got a teaching position in Quebec.

Kamala likes talking about Montreal even less than she likes talking about Berkeley.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (uxCna)

146 i guess CA does not need any Fed Funds ? they have enough for illegals and reparations, so time to cut. Ciao.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (V13WU)

147
Toronto? How gauche. It was Montreal.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)

That's right...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (IyPmt)

148 CA's Four Families: Brown, Pelosi, Newsom, Getty
Posted by 18-1

Thank you.
Posted by: Cheri at August 27, 2024 03:38 PM (oiNtH)

Where's Geffen?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (dGCAG)

149 >>> 143
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Damn.

Just how red will Texas get?

Now you see why the George W Cuck clan was so desperate to stop Paxton.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (VAkB9)

If the US does end up breaking into smaller entities, I want to see those asshoes deported back to ME or whatever northeast state they came from.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (FnneF)

150 There's something else going on with this program. I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that not a single illegal actually gets a home through it.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (iFTx/)

I'm on your side of that book.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (BAEGB)

151 Awww, crap

... sir
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


I was wondering about that. Have not seen Sid around here recently.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (v6JzV)

152 If the US does end up breaking into smaller entities, I want to see those asshoes deported back to ME or whatever northeast state they came from.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

We could put 'em out on a derelict off shore rig and blow it up.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (CIS44)

153 143 Damn.

Just how red will Texas get?

Now you see why the George W Cuck clan was so desperate to stop Paxton.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (VAkB9)

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His lawsuit against ActBlue which he filed in December forced them to turn on verification earlier this month through a court order.

By contrast, Miyares in VA filed a lawsuit against ActBlue a few days before Paxton's lawsuit actually had results.

I think it's easy to see why Paxton is much, much higher in my estimation than someone like Miyares. It's the difference between results and failure theater.

Also, those who believed the negative stories that led to Paxton's impeachment should really consider how gullible they are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

154
I was wondering about that. Have not seen Sid around here recently.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:41 PM (v6JzV)

Maybe if you say his name 3 times....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (IyPmt)

155 ... All true. But none of those are mortgages. It's not just know your customer. The banks need to confirm that the applicant has credit, a verifiable income, a real job, and can repay the loan. No illegal can do that. ...
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (iFTx/)
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Only traditional lenders like banks and mortgage companies that want to sell the paper on to Fannie Mae. *They* care about standards. The entire subprime market - and in this case, I suspect the "deep subprime" market - is predicated on bending or ignoring the traditional rules.

Which is where I suspect most of profit from this scam winds up. Lenders who are in the club with the CA Party likely have an uncanny ability to "navigate" the program and applicants stacked up three deep for mortgages they have no hope of repaying. Take the down, use it to offset the risk, pocket the big 'ole origination fee, and sell the notes - notes with plenty of equity headroom, thanks to the scam - on to private-label MBS aggregators.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)

156 Kumala sucks. She and her cohorts in Kalifornia have made it suck even worse. I'd rather she be giving out free blowjobs.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (ynpvh)

157 Texas AG Ken Paxton Launches Election Fraud Raids on Latino Democrats’ Homes, Including State House Candidate and a Local Mayor — Officers Seized 65 Cellphones and 41 Computers
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Damn.

Just how red will Texas get?

Now you see why the George W Cuck clan was so desperate to stop Paxton.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (VAkB9)

How much you wanna bet, what gets found on those computers is more than just a Texas operation.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (dGCAG)

158 There's something else going on with this program. I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that not a single illegal actually gets a home through it.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:39 PM (iFTx/)


It *might* clear hedge funds' and investment firms' backlog of underwater properties that they bought when there was zero interest, and now they can't move and are having trouble paying that interest and taxes.

Imagine, BlackRock bought up a quarter of a city and has all these houses they can't move and can't rent at what they need to get.
They "sell" the houses, the houses go into arrears, the taxes don't get paid and then they go on the block, eventually, it is now a business loss, and they have a new assessment for the investment. I am sure I am wrong somewhere, but let me know where so I can do this again.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (D7oie)

159 'fundamentally unfair' ... how can Kameltoe ever survive such harsh criticism of her (ahem) 'plan' to help the illegal 'downtrodden' ... ? Bitch.

Posted by: Dr_No at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (ayRl+)

160
Berkeley. Named for the Anglo-Irish philosopher.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (xG4kz)

161 CA state revenues are particularly sensitive to the stock market in a way that is not true in other states.

Yeah, you can tell tech and Cal state revenues are hurting - the agricultural inspection stations on the Oregon-California border were unmanned for the first time in my decades of crossing the border, and a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (uxCna)

162 Mortgages at the higher end of the giveaway would be upwards of 4k a month, no wetback is going to be able to pay that monthly nut.

It sounds like the government is trying a modified Superman III pennies for everyone scheme.

This is going to end badly for everyone involved.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (XV/Pl)

163 157 How much you wanna bet, what gets found on those computers is more than just a Texas operation.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (dGCAG)

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$5 says there's kiddie pron featuring illegal immigrant children on them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

164 Kamala's '+4 Wineglass of Indifference' is some powerful magikkk....

Posted by: Stateless at August 27, 2024 03:44 PM (jvJvP)

165 159 'fundamentally unfair' ... how can Kameltoe ever survive such harsh criticism of her (ahem) 'plan' to help the illegal 'downtrodden' ... ? Bitch.

Posted by: Dr_No at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (ayRl+)

She's cornering the illegal vote.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:44 PM (ynpvh)

166 Yeah, you can tell tech and Cal state revenues are hurting - the agricultural inspection stations on the Oregon-California border were unmanned for the first time in my decades of crossing the border, and a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (uxCna)
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I remember being outraged the first time I encountered one of those. They are flatly illegal. The State of California is not permitted to interfere with interstate traffic. I refused any questions and drove off with zero consequence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:44 PM (HnUIn)

167 164 Kamala's '+4 Wineglass of Indifference' is some powerful magikkk....

Posted by: Stateless at August 27, 2024 03:44 PM (jvJvP)

But she has other "special" skills, ya know.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:44 PM (ynpvh)

168 Berkeley. Named for the Anglo-Irish philosopher.

Who apparently was a slaveholder.

Berkeley will change its name ten seconds after Yale does.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (uxCna)

169 Yeah, you can tell tech and Cal state revenues are hurting - the agricultural inspection stations on the Oregon-California border were unmanned for the first time in my decades of crossing the border, and a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


Now figure in the underfunded state retirement scam.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (m5o7j)

170 Ah, the old repayment-free gambit… has been tried before by the Gubmint… remember that???

Posted by: tubal at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (PCK5/)

171 Mortgages at the higher end of the giveaway would be upwards of 4k a month, no wetback is going to be able to pay that monthly nut. ...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (XV/Pl)
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No, but 10 probably could. And the house becomes a dilapidated tenement within two years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (HnUIn)

172 Even the mildly retarded voter should be able to figure out what's going on here.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (QH6yF)

173 TX Democrats have ties to national Democrats...there could be RICO implications...

It'd be fun if Paxton got the DNC into a court on RICO charges.
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Oh yeah.
I'd forgot but there's been a whole lot of heavy-hitter Dems on the vote fraud side rolling in and out of Houston.
Houston was/is their Ground Zero of turning TX blue.
They wiped out all Rs and were/are using that as a safe haven to run fraud statewide.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (VAkB9)

174 I remember being outraged the first time I encountered one of those. They are flatly illegal. The State of California is not permitted to interfere with interstate traffic. I refused any questions and drove off with zero consequence.

Hawaii does the same thing.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (uxCna)

175 169 Yeah, you can tell tech and Cal state revenues are hurting - the agricultural inspection stations on the Oregon-California border were unmanned for the first time in my decades of crossing the border, and a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


Now figure in the underfunded state retirement scam.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (m5o7j)

Calpers. Guaranteed 9% return or something like that. Will sure be fun here when that sh*t hits the fan.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (ynpvh)

176 ++++
No, but 10 probably could. And the house becomes a dilapidated tenement within two years.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (HnUIn)

Exactly.. I've seen it firsthand

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (IyPmt)

177 And in our third adoption of The MAGA Way, Kamala opposes the electric vehicle mandate! Even school busses!

Please don’t bring up she was co sponsor of a bill mandating this, you privileged male!

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (p4NUW)

178 Toronto? How gauche. It was Montreal.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)


could be. I will never manage to get there either way, and I couldn't afford the rent no matter what.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (D7oie)

179 Hawaii does the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (uxCna)
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LOLWUT? Across what land border?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (HnUIn)

180 Even the mildly retarded voter should be able to figure out what's going on here.

It's rapey Tuesday?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (t2Ch6)

181 177 And in our third adoption of The MAGA Way, Kamala opposes the electric vehicle mandate! Even school busses!

Please don’t bring up she was co sponsor of a bill mandating this, you privileged male!
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (p4NUW)

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She's doing this because she's trying to run up the score.

I mean, you believe that she's up by 7, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (GBKbO)

182 Did someone from Sinaloa tell the CA General Assembly that the cartels need a new money laundering front?

Posted by: Octochicken at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (oCS0o)

183 179 Hawaii does the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (uxCna)
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LOLWUT? Across what land border?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (HnUIn)

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At airports. I had some pineapples I brought home, and they were technically supposed to be inspected, I think.

The lady working the security looked at the box (Maui Gold, delicious pineapples) and said, "It's all good."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

184 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (v6JzV)

185
Which is where I suspect most of profit from this scam winds up. Lenders who are in the club with the CA Party likely have an uncanny ability to "navigate" the program and applicants stacked up three deep for mortgages they have no hope of repaying. Take the down, use it to offset the risk, pocket the big 'ole origination fee, and sell the notes - notes with plenty of equity headroom, thanks to the scam - on to private-label MBS aggregators.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)
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You could do that 20 or possibly even 10 years ago. Don't think you can do it now. Because without real banks and real bank money, you have a hot potato that you can't hand off. Private investors want profit. They aren't going to take highly risky dogshit loans unless they think they can flip them. The marks 20 years ago that these worthless loans were flipped to were huge banks. Banks aren't doing that any more.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (iFTx/)

186 Mortgages at the higher end of the giveaway would be upwards of 4k a month, no wetback is going to be able to pay that monthly nut. ...
Posted by: Thomas Bender

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No, but 10 probably could. And the house becomes a dilapidated tenement within two years.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Que? No habla insurance.

Homeowner's Associations should have fun.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (m5o7j)

187 Democrats - making being up to your armpits in Instant Martians look good in comparison.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (UE3O1)

188 The lady working the security looked at the box (Maui Gold, delicious pineapples) and said, "It's all good."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

Didn't tax the stash?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (BAEGB)

189 179 Hawaii does the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (uxCna)
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LOLWUT? Across what land border?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (HnUIn)

Biden's trans-Pacific-Indian Ocean train...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (ynpvh)

190 a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.

So soon after glory hole month?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (t2Ch6)

191
Toronto? How gauche. It was Montreal.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 27, 2024 03:40 PM


There is absolutely no reference to Kamala living in Canada on her Wiki page so I must accuse you of misinformation.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (RKVpM)

192 180 Even the mildly retarded voter should be able to figure out what's going on here.

It's rapey Tuesday?


we call it "taco tuesday"

Posted by: lesbian liberation front at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (oY6Yp)

193
I see that Kammie is asking for the debate to be essentially an open book test, eith note cards, no less.

Whatsa wrong wif de sooper schmart Kammie? Can't Kammie bemember anything wiffout notes? Is Kammie just anudder accomplishment-free stronk whymyn candy-date?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (xG4kz)

194 LOLWUT? Across what land border?

You have to declare any agricultural products you bring into Hawaii, and there are huge fines if you fail to declare them (they have X-ray machines to check).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (uxCna)

195 I'm speaking

Posted by: Kamabla at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (ufJfM)

196 This busty bikini brunette on the beach is smiling because she does not live in California:
http://tiny.cc/62wjzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (HnUIn)

197 183 179 Hawaii does the same thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:45 PM (uxCna)
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LOLWUT? Across what land border?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:46 PM (HnUIn)

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At airports. I had some pineapples I brought home, and they were technically supposed to be inspected, I think.

The lady working the security looked at the box (Maui Gold, delicious pineapples) and said, "It's all good."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

I was expecting: "Yup, those there are pineapples!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (ynpvh)

198 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


She can wrap her tongue around it.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (m5o7j)

199 >>Mortgages at the higher end of the giveaway would be upwards of 4k a month, no wetback is going to be able to pay that monthly nut. ...


Do you have any idea how much Marijuana you can grow in a 3500 sq foot house?

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (xZQNu)

200 How much you wanna bet, what gets found on those computers is more than just a Texas operation.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (dGCAG)

$5 says there's kiddie pron featuring illegal immigrant children on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

Among the basic tenets one must adopt, and remember: If you see a news item, somewhere outside corporate media, and you think to yourself "Self, this seems like a big deal, I wonder why the corporate media isn't covering it," the answer is: Because they're in on it.

285,000 missing children?

Seems kinda important, don't it?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (dGCAG)

201 184 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (v6JzV)

I hear she does something with her mouth, tongue and throat...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (ynpvh)

202 Which is where I suspect most of profit from this scam winds up. Lenders who are in the club with the CA Party likely have an uncanny ability to "navigate" the program and applicants stacked up three deep for mortgages they have no hope of repaying. Take the down, use it to offset the risk, pocket the big 'ole origination fee, and sell the notes - notes with plenty of equity headroom, thanks to the scam - on to private-label MBS aggregators.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)

I forget which of the bailout minicrashes was on bundled assets back in the early 2000s. EU is reportedly on shaky ground since their banks have loads of similar bad, overvalued assets.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (n7h9X)

203 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?

She went to an Anglophone high school.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (uxCna)

204 This busty bikini brunette on the beach is smiling because she does not live in California:
http://tiny.cc/62wjzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Nice rack. Now if she'd just ditch the belly-button piercings.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (v6JzV)

205 @171

>>No, but 10 probably could. And the house becomes a dilapidated tenement within two years.

A 750k to around 1M dollar house in most of California is a shack that ain't going to fit 10 bread earners.

As I said, this is going to end badly for everyone involved, could be the lunatics in charge are trying to engineer another banking system meltdown.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (XV/Pl)

206 196 This busty bikini brunette on the beach is smiling because she does not live in California:
http://tiny.cc/62wjzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (HnUIn)

If you're drowning out at sea, are you allowed to access the flotation devices?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (ynpvh)

207 You could do that 20 or possibly even 10 years ago. Don't think you can do it now. Because without real banks and real bank money, you have a hot potato that you can't hand off. Private investors want profit. They aren't going to take highly risky dogshit loans unless they think they can flip them. The marks 20 years ago that these worthless loans were flipped to were huge banks. Banks aren't doing that any more.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (iFTx/)
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Subprime, "shadow bank" lending is still very much alive. The free down payment from CA offsets a ton of the risk involved, and then the bundling and risk waterfall structure work the same way they did in the subprime boom in the early to mid aughts. One of these loans in a special investment vehicle with 99 other loans? Manageable risk. Nobody would bat an eye.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (HnUIn)

208 Do you have any idea how much Marijuana you can grow in a 3500 sq foot house?
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (xZQNu)

.... subtract 500 for living space.... 30gal containers with blue mats.... allow for canopy room...

Dassa ladda nuggs.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (BAEGB)

209 Also, those who believed the negative stories that led to Paxton's impeachment should really consider how gullible they are.
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They hemmed him up for what, a year, over pure political BS that didn't even pass the laugh test.

And yes, the cell phones and computers he seized are guaranteed to led to even more crimes.

And all this before, IIRC, the constitutional amendment that let's him prosecute vote fraud goes into effect.

He's using the tools he has now, instead of the evergreen whine from the GOPe cucks that they need new laws, more seats, more judges, etc. before they can act.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (VAkB9)

210 Yeah, you can tell tech and Cal state revenues are hurting - the agricultural inspection stations on the Oregon-California border were unmanned for the first time in my decades of crossing the border, and a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (uxCna)


In 2018 I had a need to ask a question of the California Labor and board about contract farm labor, and wound up talking the the assistant director of the agency, because the employees had been sent home due to budgetary shortfalls, and he was one of the few salaried employees available to answer the helpline.

Pleasant guy, but he couldn't answer my question, so I had to go without that information.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (D7oie)

211 "- $400k to the mortgage lender (he is paid back)"
Mannix

But that means the mortgage lender put up the $400k with no return till house is sold, at which point he just gets the principle back, unless the interest is back end loaded?. The initial owner of the house has to get paid in full.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (Cus5s)

212 a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.
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So soon after glory hole month?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (t2Ch6)

Somebody's got to get in there with a mop.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (dGCAG)

213 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?


Et Cette petite fille, c'etait moi

Posted by: Kamala at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (IyPmt)

214 >>Mortgages at the higher end of the giveaway would be upwards of 4k a month, no wetback is going to be able to pay that monthly nut. ...


Do you have any idea how much Marijuana you can grow in a 3500 sq foot house?
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (xZQNu)

CA is in the pot business now. They had to recreate all the police forces they supposedly would not need to protect their turf. There was a funny scandal a while back that pot stores were buying street weed and not government weed to make extra money.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (n7h9X)

215 This busty bikini brunette on the beach is smiling because she does not live in California:
http://tiny.cc/62wjzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (HnUIn)
_________

You do know the odds are high that pic was taken on a CA beach, right? LOL. There's a 75% chance it's either CA or FL.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

216 209 He's using the tools he has now, instead of the evergreen whine from the GOPe cucks that they need new laws, more seats, more judges, etc. before they can act.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (VAkB9)

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"I signed an EO telling people to follow the law. Praise me."
-Governor Youngkin of VA, in comparison

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

217 yeah, lots of first time buyers going into a 7-8 figure contract. That doesn't spell DOOM at all.

Posted by: JayInAmes at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (OlOaW)

218 285,000 missing children?

Seems kinda important, don't it?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (dGCAG)

You mean like the blatant child slavery going on in the Middle East and Africa?

Seems like the Left would think that was a big deal.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (xaFKb)

219 190 a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.

So soon after glory hole month?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM

Finally a crisis that hits in Pete Buttigiegs wheelhouse.

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (+oR7L)

220 217 yeah, lots of first time buyers going into a 7-8 figure contract. That doesn't spell DOOM at all.
Posted by: JayInAmes at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (OlOaW)

Especially as they are all undocumented... lots of Fake or no ID folks out there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (xaFKb)

221 $150K won't buy you shit in CA.

Posted by: wth at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

222 Nothing makes a woman look more feminine or desirable than a hog ring in her nose and two sleeves of tattoos.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (pohLc)

223 But that means the mortgage lender put up the $400k with no return till house is sold, at which point he just gets the principle back, unless the interest is back end loaded?. The initial owner of the house has to get paid in full.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (Cus5s)
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No, it's a normal mortgage. I said to assume no repayment so I wouldn't have to go do the amortization over some period of time for a hypothetical example. The structure is no different as far as the mortgage lender is concerned.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (HnUIn)

224 161 Yeah, you can tell tech and Cal state revenues are hurting - the agricultural inspection stations on the Oregon-California border were unmanned for the first time in my decades of crossing the border, and a number of the rest stops on the California part of I-5 were closed.

i drive between here and utah fairly frequently. they've been usually unmanned for most of the last decade, at least. when i first moved here *mumble* years ago, there was usually at least someone in the boot waving you along.

Posted by: anachronda at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (oY6Yp)

225 You do know the odds are high that pic was taken on a CA beach, right? LOL. There's a 75% chance it's either CA or FL.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (iFTx/)
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Not in my mind, Elric.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (HnUIn)

226 I always have the urge to call Cali a failed state… but it’s an odd sort of failed state I guess…

Posted by: tubal at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (PCK5/)

227 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (v6JzV)


Of course not, only the plebs are required to be bilingual in Canada

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (D7oie)

228 BTW, all of Israel is celebrating because the IDF freed a Israeli Arab hostage who was being held underground in Gaza.

Hamas claimed that they voluntarily "let him go" - apparently it took them ten months to notice that he was an Arabic-speaking Muslim.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (uxCna)

229 You could do that 20 or possibly even 10 years ago. Don't think you can do it now. Because without real banks and real bank money, you have a hot potato that you can't hand off. Private investors want profit. They aren't going to take highly risky dogshit loans unless they think they can flip them. The marks 20 years ago that these worthless loans were flipped to were huge banks. Banks aren't doing that any more.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:47 PM (iFTx/)
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Subprime, "shadow bank" lending is still very much alive. The free down payment from CA offsets a ton of the risk involved, and then the bundling and risk waterfall structure work the same way they did in the subprime boom in the early to mid aughts. One of these loans in a special investment vehicle with 99 other loans? Manageable risk. Nobody would bat an eye.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:50 PM (HnUIn)
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Nah. I'm still of the opinion that not a single illegal will get a home through this program. The graft and scam and pocket-stuffing lies somewhere else in the program; somewhere that does not involve an actual loan or closing on a house.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

230 This gift is like the GI Bill after WWII. But in this case nobody lifted a finger to do anything.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (wBaIH)

231 >>CA is in the pot business now. They had to recreate all the police forces they supposedly would not need to protect their turf. There was a funny scandal a while back that pot stores were buying street weed and not government weed to make extra money.


That whole trend toward legalization is filled with Case Study re. Black Markets.

It's hysterical.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (xZQNu)

232 This insanity is another good reason to subdivide California into smaller states.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (UE3O1)

233 221 $150K won't buy you shit in CA.

didn't know it was marketable. should i be saving it up?

Posted by: anachronda at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (oY6Yp)

234 I guess they agreed to debate rules. And they ..same as CNN debate rules. ANd No notes.

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (V13WU)

235 Finally a crisis that hits in Pete Buttigiegs wheelhouse.

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (+oR7L)

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Rumor is that the nickname for Bootygag's ass in the bath houses was "The Wheelhouse."

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (qmIr/)

236 226 I always have the urge to call Cali a failed state… but it’s an odd sort of failed state I guess…
Posted by: tubal at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (PCK5/)

That's like calling someone who was mugged in a Publix parking lot a "failed shopper".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (BAEGB)

237 6 What are they buying for 150k in California?

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Votes.

Posted by: stuckInCalifornia at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (uxKkj)

238
Somebody's got to get in there with a mop.
Posted by: BurtTC


It's not the mopping that's the beeyotch ... it's enduring the decontamination burn with a full throttle flame thrower afterward that the cleaners dread.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (xG4kz)

239 15
The loan is one with no interest, and you don't have to pay it back until you sell the home.

And it's for the down payment of up to 20%... so homes up to $750K.
Posted by: Romeo13
........

Good luck collecting the mortgage payments from Honduran tortilla vendors.

Posted by: wth at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

240 234 I guess they agreed to debate rules. And they ..same as CNN debate rules. ANd No notes.
Posted by: runner at August 27, 2024 03:54 PM (V13WU)


Kamala's gonna get covid or they'll try to finish the job on Trump

Posted by: at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (IyPmt)

241 There was a funny scandal a while back that pot stores were buying street weed and not government weed to make extra money.

The taxes are high, and there is no enforcement of the marijuana laws, so most of the marijuana being sold now in California is illegal.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (uxCna)

242 $150K won't buy you shit in CA.

didn't know it was marketable. should i be saving it up?
Posted by: anachronda

And we're back to the Cologuard discussion from the last thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (v6JzV)

243 >>Nothing makes a woman look more feminine or desirable than a hog ring in her nose and two sleeves of tattoos.


It's like looking at the 'Birth of Venus'.

If Venus were being born from a Municipal Wastewater Facitlity.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (xZQNu)

244
He's using the tools he has now, instead of the evergreen whine from the GOPe cucks that they need new laws, more seats, more judges, etc. before they can act.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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GOPe uses the same fraudsters in open primaries in many states to prevent election of populists. That is why they don't want to crack down on them. They are complicit in voter fraud. Ratshitburger got his job for a reason in GA.

Pretty much the only explanation that fits the observable data in Red states that persist in allowing voter fraud activities by Dems across the US. Wyoming's GOPe governor vetoed a regulation that required proof of living in Wyoming to vote for example.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (kW+z9)

245 No way this will go bad...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (IyPmt)

246 https://i.yt___.com/vi/OpPF-0Wycp8/maxresdefault.jpg

This busty miss does not live in California.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (t2Ch6)

247 But in this case nobody lifted a finger to do anything.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (wBaIH)

Are you kidding?

These poor bastards have to be... *shudder* Not White.

That's enough to suffer on its own, we think.

Posted by: The DNC at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (BAEGB)

248 yeah, lots of first time buyers going into a 7-8 figure contract. That doesn't spell DOOM at all.

Posted by: JayInAmes

I don't get it.

Posted by: California at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (hCzfy)

249 Subsidizing demand. That shouldn't have much effect on housing prices. /sarc

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (VGRuw)

250 The taxes are high, and there is no enforcement of the marijuana laws, so most of the marijuana being sold now in California is illegal.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:55 PM (uxCna)

Another genius level leftard idea right out through the rat's butthole.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (pohLc)

251 They voted for it. Let it happen. Not my circus not my monkey,

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (smVi0)

252 Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 03:56 PM (kW+z9)

Uniparty is Uniparty for a reason. Republicans after all aren't the only team "playing a part".

Posted by: ... at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (4DWWO)

253 https://i.yt___.com/vi/OpPF-0Wycp8/maxresdefault.jpg

This busty miss does not live in California.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism


Again, doesn't work for me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (v6JzV)

254 Nah. I'm still of the opinion that not a single illegal will get a home through this program. The graft and scam and pocket-stuffing lies somewhere else in the program; somewhere that does not involve an actual loan or closing on a house.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (iFTx/)
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Most of the recipients will probably not be illegals, but perhaps there will be a non-trivial number. Regardless, though, if this expansion passes then they'll make sure there are a few token illegals who get them, at least, for PR purposes. Otherwise, the same people who are skimming off the current program will continue to skim.

Which is probably the point. The originators who hand out loans subsidized with this program probably have opportunities all lined up with illegals, and want the expansion so they can write more paper and increase their fees.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (HnUIn)

255 $150,000 down payment = about a $2.9 million dollar home.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (m5o7j)

256 You do know the odds are high that pic was taken on a CA beach, right? LOL. There's a 75% chance it's either CA or FL.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (iFTx/)
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Not in my mind, Elric.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (HnUIn)

__________

The majority of these THOTs are in CA or FL. They are the THOT Capitols of the World. NV too but since this is a beach pic . . . .

If anyone has the guts to google lens it, we might find out exactly where it was taken.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

257
Do you have any idea how much Marijuana you can grow in a 3500 sq foot house?
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (xZQNu)


With a twenty cent per kilowatt hour electric bill for a humongous bank of 24/7 grow lights?

Show your work.

/ Kidding officers, I know nothing of the practice. Seriously. I had a PA State Trooper enter my house once and paused at the threshold and warned me. I just laughed. Come on in.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (RKVpM)

258 This gift is like the GI Bill after WWII. But in this case nobody lifted a finger to do anything.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (wBaIH)

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"Yo, signin' up for ALL those FREE SHIT benefits be hard, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (Lg0gq)

259 285,000 missing children?

Seems kinda important, don't it?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (dGCAG)


I had a thought about bodies,since it is hard to get rid of human remains. I believe it was reported that most of the bones of the dead at Waterloo and a few other massive Napoleonic battles were collected and ground down for fertilizer and for the additives to crystallize white sugar in the West Indies through the 1800's. I may give up sugar

this is the sort of thing I think about so I apologize for sometimes being surly and unpleasant.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (D7oie)

260 House address -> CA driver's license -> motor-voter

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (UE3O1)

261 How you like them apples, California citizens?
Posted by: JackStraw

"Residents" - citizens is a national thing. I guess it helps drive up the value of my condo. I wonder if anyone will challenge this on equal protection grounds.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (KAi1n)

262 You do know the odds are high that pic was taken on a CA beach, right? LOL. There's a 75% chance it's either CA or FL.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (iFTx/)
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Not in my mind, Elric.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:53 PM (HnUIn)

__________

The majority of these THOTs are in CA or FL. They are the THOT Capitols of the World. NV too but since this is a beach pic . . . .

If anyone has the guts to google lens it, we might find out exactly where it was taken.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade


Who said it had to have been taken in the US?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (v6JzV)

263 203 Does Kamala speak Canadian French, then?

She went to an Anglophone high school.


iphone > anglophone

Posted by: anachronda at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (oY6Yp)

264 Can't think of a better way for some big banks to get some very expensive property dirt cheap.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (KbCG3)

265 Another genius level leftard idea right out through the rat's butthole.

You'd think that since tax money is now involved, California would be sending in SWAT teams to bust the marijuana operations that aren't paying taxes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (uxCna)

266 OT-and today's stupid link from MSNBC-They need to let me know that 50 years ago the first transgender character appeared in a sitcom. I didn't click on it because it is so dumb and the link is from "GLaad", but they have a picture of the cast of "The Jeffersons" Nobody on the Jeffersons was transgender and the Jeffersons would have been horrified to think about such a thing.

The indoctrination never stops.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (dTTBf)

267 Another genius level leftard idea right out through the rat's butthole.

You'd think that since tax money is now involved, California would be sending in SWAT teams to bust the marijuana operations that aren't paying taxes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (uxCna)

They are

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (n7h9X)

268 Again, doesn't work for me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:57 PM (v6JzV)
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The letters "IMG" in lower-case are censored and replaced with underscores. I am sure there is a historical reason for this, but I don't know it.

___
IMG

When you see a URL with three underscores, replace the underscores with the letters I, M and G in the address bar, and it will work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (HnUIn)

269 The amount of fraud this will unleash will be staggering.

Organized crime groups will buy houses with the money and, surprise, never sell them. The CCP is going to own 10% of housing within a year.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (IG4Id)

270 There's no money to pay for this.

Posted by: Max Power at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (q177U)

271 CA's Four Families: Brown, Pelosi, Newsom, Getty
Posted by 18-1

You forgot the Manson family.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (KAi1n)

272 Turley via Rantingly: Zuckerberg is suddenly very, very sorry... tinyurl.com/3sh3v7sf

Exactly.

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (Ectld)

273 They voted for it. Let it happen. Not my circus not my monkey,
Posted by: Write it off Jerry


Until national banks take the hit. Wells Fargo, Bank of America, etc.

Then we all pay.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 04:00 PM (m5o7j)

274 Maybe I can flip it… a Citizen of Missouri, a Resident of America… only in my mind I suppose…

Posted by: tubal at August 27, 2024 04:00 PM (PCK5/)

275 >>With a twenty cent per kilowatt hour electric bill for a humongous bank of 24/7 grow lights?


You hooked up to the wrong side of the Meter Pan, esse.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 04:00 PM (xZQNu)

276 270 There's no money to pay for this.
Posted by: Max Power at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (q177U)


Money ? We don't need no stinkin money

Posted by: California Banditos at August 27, 2024 04:00 PM (IyPmt)

277 You'd think that since tax money is now involved, California would be sending in SWAT teams to bust the marijuana operations that aren't paying taxes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (uxCna)

Lots easier and less dangerous to perpwalk grannies praying outside a baby murder "clinic".

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:00 PM (pohLc)

278 All this does is make housing in California even more expensive. So all the 26 year olds complaining about rent… yah buddy keep voting Democrat.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (smVi0)

279 You'd think that since tax money is now involved, California would be sending in SWAT teams to bust the marijuana operations that aren't paying taxes.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Ever heard of regulatory capture?

Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (KAi1n)

280 The amount of fraud this will unleash will be staggering.

Organized crime groups will buy houses with the money and, surprise, never sell them. The CCP is going to own 10% of housing within a year.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 27, 2024 03:59 PM (IG4Id)

The CCP middle men who want purge insurance pay cash, they don't need these tricks. This is CA insiders milking the state treasury.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (n7h9X)

281 The majority of these THOTs are in CA or FL. They are the THOT Capitols of the World. NV too but since this is a beach pic . . . .

If anyone has the guts to google lens it, we might find out exactly where it was taken.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade


Who said it had to have been taken in the US?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 03:58 PM (v6JzV)
________

It doesn't but many (most?) are. Another tell is that it's a normal average water pic. No exotic islands or atolls or landmarks in the background that would show it was taken in an exotic foreign locale. The THOTs in the water in Dubai all have the recognizable Dubai architecture in the background.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (iFTx/)

282 Nothing makes a woman look more feminine or desirable than a hog ring in her nose and two sleeves of tattoos.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
......

I don't know. Put a long sleeve t-shirt on her, tie the nose ring to a corral fence and commence breeding.

Posted by: wth at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

283 When you see a URL with three underscores, replace the underscores with the letters I, M and G in the address bar, and it will work.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


All that trouble for another damn cow pick.
Mr. Commissar is now on the same list as Ackbar.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (v6JzV)

284
Nothing makes a woman look more feminine or desirable than a hog ring in her nose and two sleeves of tattoos.
Posted by: Xipe Totec


I swear, all the ink some people sport makes them look like they just emerged from a hog wallow and they did not bother to wash up afterward. It is especially revolting for an otherwise decent looking woman to have destroyed her appearance in that way.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 04:02 PM (xG4kz)

285 >>> 200 How much you wanna bet, what gets found on those computers is more than just a Texas operation.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (dGCAG)

$5 says there's kiddie pron featuring illegal immigrant children on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

Among the basic tenets one must adopt, and remember: If you see a news item, somewhere outside corporate media, and you think to yourself "Self, this seems like a big deal, I wonder why the corporate media isn't covering it," the answer is: Because they're in on it.

285,000 missing children?

Seems kinda important, don't it?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2024 03:49 PM (dGCAG)

285,000 that we know of.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 04:02 PM (FnneF)

286 I fully expect the Kali democrats to put a price control on homes so the $150K is not passed on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 27, 2024 04:02 PM (17s+e)

287 You get 4, 5, 6 people together at $150K each and there's the entire house paid for.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2024 04:02 PM (KAi1n)

288 Making it even cheaper for the cartels to be the largest real estate owner in Cali.

Thanks to us, the suckers and chumps. Er I mean taxpayers.

Posted by: Haffhowershower at August 27, 2024 04:03 PM (O4iqq)

289
I don't know. Put a long sleeve t-shirt on her, tie the nose ring to a corral fence and commence breeding.

She ain't already stump broke?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 04:03 PM (t2Ch6)

290 Why doesn't California just evict the white people from their homes and gift the newcomers with them?

That's where the left is headed anyway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 27, 2024 04:03 PM (Q4IgG)

291 $150 K for what 25 votes? Aren't votes from dead folk and dementia patients cheaper?

Posted by: Eromero at August 27, 2024 04:03 PM (LHPAg)

292 Cute that they call these “loans”. If more than 20% of the money is ever paid back I’ll be shocked.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at August 27, 2024 04:03 PM (smVi0)

293 "I signed an EO telling people to follow the law. Praise me."
-Governor Youngkin of VA, in comparison
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Believe it or not, evidence shows that even minor hurdles to criminals often deters at least some of them. Giuliani used James Q Wilson's Broken Windows thesis to help restore NYC pretty fast by prosecuting all crimes, even small ones like fare jumpers and squeegee tramps.

DeSantis and Florida legislature recently passed a bill making hospitals that accept Medicaid are required to ask patients their legal status at admission or in the emergency room.

Not surprisingly, the number of illegals seeking medical care dropped in Florida hospitals immediately afterward despite no criminal penalties attached to the illegals for their answers.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:03 PM (kW+z9)

294 From the sidebar:

This guy just fulfilled everyone's childhood dream [Hat Tip: TC] [CBD]


My disappointment in learning this had absolutely NOTHING to do with Bo Derek and Phoebe Cates is beyond my ability to express it. Why so cruel? Why?

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 27, 2024 04:04 PM (bqDim)

295 193
I see that Kammie is asking for the debate to be essentially an open book test, eith note cards, no less.

Whatsa wrong wif de sooper schmart Kammie? Can't Kammie bemember anything wiffout notes? Is Kammie just anudder accomplishment-free stronk whymyn candy-date?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 27, 2024 03:48 PM (xG4kz)

She doesn't know what her positions are until she reads them. Insert Obvious "position" joke here.

Posted by: javems at August 27, 2024 04:04 PM (8I4hW)

296 LOL, Mexico freezes relations with the US because our Government is bitching at them about how they want to make their Judiciary, just like most State Judiciaries in the US... ie elected not appointed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 04:04 PM (xaFKb)

297 two sleeves of tattoos.

Lampshades.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 27, 2024 04:04 PM (t2Ch6)

298 $150K in California will get you a toolshed in Imperial County.

Posted by: Simon Jester at August 27, 2024 04:05 PM (BSu3l)

299 290 Why doesn't California just evict the white people from their homes and gift the newcomers with them?

That's where the left is headed anyway.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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California has not yet shorn all of those sheep of their money via payroll and income taxes yet. If I was a retiree living in the state, I would sell and get the hell outta there before the state does as you say.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:05 PM (kW+z9)

300 "The structure is no different as far as the mortgage lender is concerned."

Except they collect no payments for years. So they just put up 80% of the principle for free.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (Cus5s)

301 220 217 yeah, lots of first time buyers going into a 7-8 figure contract. That doesn't spell DOOM at all.
Posted by: JayInAmes at August 27, 2024 03:51 PM (OlOaW)

Especially as they are all undocumented... lots of Fake or no ID folks out there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 03:52 PM (xaFKb)

Shades of 2007-2008.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (ynpvh)

302 Kamala has agreed to 9/10, standing, no notes, mics muted on ABC.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (p4NUW)

303 @287

>>You get 4, 5, 6 people together at $150K each and there's the entire house paid for.

If Californian's think housing is too expensive now, wait till this program goes into full swing, the average price of a California home will be around 3million dollars.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (XV/Pl)

304 302 Kamala has agreed to 9/10, standing, no notes, mics muted on ABC.
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (p4NUW)

=======

So, she made demands, got nothing, and backed down?

That's amusing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

305 It doesn't but many (most?) are. Another tell is that it's a normal average water pic. No exotic islands or atolls or landmarks in the background that would show it was taken in an exotic foreign locale. The THOTs in the water in Dubai all have the recognizable Dubai architecture in the background.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 04:01 PM (iFTx/)

The small, but not ocean sized waves could be from one of the great lakes. A small lake would have less 'surf' and possibly land on the horizon.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (n7h9X)

306 @298 - it's for down payment assistance up to 20% and or 150k. So up to a 750k house.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (bqDim)

307 $150K in California will get you a toolshed in Imperial County.
Posted by: Simon Jester


$150k is the 20% down payment.

That'll get you a $2.9 million house.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (m5o7j)

308 It doesn't but many (most?) are. Another tell is that it's a normal average water pic. No exotic islands or atolls or landmarks in the background that would show it was taken in an exotic foreign locale. The THOTs in the water in Dubai all have the recognizable Dubai architecture in the background.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq.
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Is your Doctoratal thesis about THOTs perchance?

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (kW+z9)

309 Kamala has agreed to 9/10, standing, no notes, mics muted on ABC.
Posted by: Piper


Wonder if there's any symbolic significance in that fact that they're holding it on the eve of 9/11.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (v6JzV)

310 So, she made demands, got nothing, and backed down?

That's amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (GBKbO)


Bet she finds a way out of it

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (IyPmt)

311 Bet she finds a way out of it
Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (IyPmt)

My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:08 PM (pohLc)

312 It doesn't but many (most?) are. Another tell is that it's a normal average water pic. No exotic islands or atolls or landmarks in the background that would show it was taken in an exotic foreign locale. The THOTs in the water in Dubai all have the recognizable Dubai architecture in the background.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq.
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Is your Doctoratal thesis about THOTs perchance?
Posted by: whig

He's an attorney. Probably practices THOT law.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 27, 2024 04:08 PM (v6JzV)

313 It doesn't but many (most?) are. Another tell is that it's a normal average water pic. No exotic islands or atolls or landmarks in the background that would show it was taken in an exotic foreign locale. The THOTs in the water in Dubai all have the recognizable Dubai architecture in the background.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq.
=============
Is your Doctoratal thesis about THOTs perchance?
Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (kW+z9)

_______

Yes. Yes it is. Highly recommended. Very lucrative.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 27, 2024 04:08 PM (iFTx/)

314 309 Kamala has agreed to 9/10, standing, no notes, mics muted on ABC.
Posted by: Piper


Wonder if there's any symbolic significance in that fact that they're holding it on the eve of 9/11.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August

Harris is too tone deaf to plan like that. It was the previously agreed to date with Biden.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:08 PM (p4NUW)

315 NINJA NICE loans:

No Income, No Job or Assets ... No Interest, Citizenship, or English required.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 27, 2024 04:08 PM (Lg0gq)

316 So MI is keeping RFK on the ballot

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (IyPmt)

317 304 302 Kamala has agreed to 9/10, standing, no notes, mics muted on ABC.
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (p4NUW)

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So, she made demands, got nothing, and backed down?

That's amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

She got a few headlines that Trump was trying to back out.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (KbCG3)

318 If Californian's think housing is too expensive now, wait till this program goes into full swing, the average price of a California home will be around 3million dollars.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (XV/Pl)
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Probably not. It's not a new program, it's a modification to expand the qualification for the program. I haven't seen that the bill also expands *funding* for the program, which means the program will remain essentially the same size that it is today. The only difference is that illegals are suddenly able to qualify for it, which will crowd out non-illegals.

It could, however, cause a shift in allocation within the state. Instead of being largely for Coastal California, access by illegals could move more payments to Interior California (illegals in agricultural labor, for example), which could cause some local distortions. Overall, though, I doubt it will move the needle any more than the original program already has.

That doesn't, however, make it right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (HnUIn)

319 RCP has MD +32 for Harris. Good grief.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (p4NUW)

320 287 You get 4, 5, 6 people together at $150K each and there's the entire house paid for.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2024 04:02 PM (KAi1n)

This is what they'll do. It won't be one person purchasing the house, it will be a group.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (6gSPY)

321

Bet she finds a way out of it
Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (IyPmt)

Agreed. Floating a headline. Totally out of ideas that aren't straight out of middle school.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (bqDim)

322
You hooked up to the wrong side of the Meter Pan, esse.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 04:00 PM


LOL. I sometimes give advice to people with an extraordinary high electric bill to throw their MAIN switch on their service panel and see if their meter still spins. Or if their neighbors lights go out.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (RKVpM)

323 If Californian's think housing is too expensive now, wait till this program goes into full swing, the average price of a California home will be around 3million dollars.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2024 04:06 PM (XV/Pl)

Yup, and I'll finally be able to sell this dang house for enough to replace it somewhere nice in another state.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (xaFKb)

324 She got a few headlines that Trump was trying to back out.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (KbCG3)

And once again she was lying

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:10 PM (IyPmt)

325 So, she made demands, got nothing, and backed down?

That's amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Shows she needs the debate worse politically than Trump does.

Harder to demonize someone if your candidate is repeating the basement campaign that Biden did despite no Covid epidemic going on to explain it.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:10 PM (kW+z9)

326 317 She got a few headlines that Trump was trying to back out.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (KbCG3)

=======

That will completely undo Trump standing up from being shot in the head with his fist up high and blood running down his temple.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

327 Agreed. Floating a headline. Totally out of ideas that aren't straight out of middle school.
Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (bqDim)


Maybe she will call in a bomb threat

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (D7oie)

328 It doesn't but many (most?) are. Another tell is that it's a normal average water pic. No exotic islands or atolls or landmarks in the background that would show it was taken in an exotic foreign locale. The THOTs in the water in Dubai all have the recognizable Dubai architecture in the background.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq.
=============
Is your Doctoratal thesis about THOTs perchance?
Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (kW+z9)

Probably in the top half of usefulness in degree research if it were.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (n7h9X)

329 319 RCP has MD +32 for Harris. Good grief.
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (p4NUW)

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Biden won MD by 33 in 2020.

So, she's running kind of even with Biden in a deep blue state.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

330 >>So MI is keeping RFK on the ballot


If RFK and Tulsi are serious...
all this will do is force Team Trump to send Surrogates there. A lot.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (xZQNu)

331 Me: "No hablo ingles."

One of my fluent buddies: "Now where is his $150,000?"

I cannot determine any fault in this plan yet.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (HlyYF)

332 319 RCP has MD +32 for Harris. Good grief.
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (p4NUW)


But the Dem and Rep are tied in the Senate race granted Hogan is more Dem than Rep

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (IyPmt)

333 325 Shows she needs the debate worse politically than Trump does.

Harder to demonize someone if your candidate is repeating the basement campaign that Biden did despite no Covid epidemic going on to explain it.
Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:10 PM (kW+z9)

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Blago assured me that Kamala was taking on all of Trump's campaign issues because she was so strong electorally, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

334 Gavin would LOVE to tank her campaign.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (RIvkX)

335 o MI is keeping RFK on the ballot


If RFK and Tulsi are serious...
all this will do is force Team Trump to send Surrogates there. A lot.
Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (xZQNu)

LOL, JD Vance was there today!

Posted by: runner at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (V13WU)

336 Probably in the top half of usefulness in degree research if it were.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (n7h9X)
++++
The prime benefit is learning how to identify proto-THOTs so that they can be avoided.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (HnUIn)

337 She ain't already stump broke?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle
......

Don't want her running off when she gets a look at that shplib.

Posted by: wth at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

338 I hope she comes to the debate well liquored up.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (ZtyUu)

339 Kamala is scared to death to debate Trump. She is like a lamb to the slaughter, and she knows it. Political death awaits her on the debate stage, and she is sweating blood. I don't see how she goes through with it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (pohLc)

340
Maybe she will call in a bomb threat
Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 04:11 PM (D7oie)

Cherry Bomb. Freshman toilets.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (bqDim)

341 Yes. Yes it is. Highly recommended. Very lucrative.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq.
============
I look forward to your penetrating analysis. Pictoral documentation is required for peer review to take place.

The group that passed Ackbar's doctorate engaged in gross negligence to pass his thesis.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (kW+z9)

342 307 $150K in California will get you a toolshed in Imperial County.
Posted by: Simon Jester


$150k is the 20% down payment.

That'll get you a $2.9 million house.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 04:07 PM (m5o7j)

San Diego average home prices are about $1M. Imperial Valley is more like $350K.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (ynpvh)

343 334 Gavin would LOVE to tank her campaign.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (RIvkX)

He is counting on it; he has his eye on 2028.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 04:13 PM (ZtyUu)

344 "all this will do is force Team Trump to send Surrogates there."

Trump is doing a lot better job of picking reliable people he can trust to speak for him this time around. He's got a team. It's not just him and his family.

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 04:13 PM (Ectld)

345 A dozen ways Harris can back out of the debate…

Posted by: tubal at August 27, 2024 04:13 PM (PCK5/)

346 332 319 RCP has MD +32 for Harris. Good grief.
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:09 PM (p4NUW)


But the Dem and Rep are tied in the Senate race granted Hogan is more Dem than Rep
Posted by: It's me donna at August 27

My dad, sister and brother live there. While I miss them terribly, I could not leave here to move there. Ever.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:13 PM (p4NUW)

347 345 A dozen ways Harris can back out of the debate…

Posted by: tubal at August 27, 2024 04:13 PM (PCK5/)

She has laryngitis; a c**k is in her mouth at the moment.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (ynpvh)

348 This is what they'll do. It won't be one person purchasing the house, it will be a group.
Posted by: CaliGirl


Yeah. The Sinoloa Cartel.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (m5o7j)

349 I hope she comes to the debate well liquored up.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (ZtyUu)


Yes, it's important to stick to routine.

Posted by: spindrift at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (OguvZ)

350 I want to see RFKJ actively campaign against himself in MI, just for a goof... make a little spectacle out of it, have some fun.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (BAEGB)

351 The prime benefit is learning how to identify proto-THOTs so that they can be avoided.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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I assume you are applying for research grants to undertake an in depth investigation of the topic with proper statistical controls over sampling. Requires a real hands-on effort.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (kW+z9)

352 "up to $150,000"

Haha like anyone is going to ask for less free money. And yes, it is free money. If you think the 'loans' will ever be paid back, I have a bridge to sell you.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (CwhoI)

353 338 I hope she comes to the debate well liquored up.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (ZtyUu)


Just a little sauv blanc to take the edge off.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (6gSPY)

354 Yup, and I'll finally be able to sell this dang house for enough to replace it somewhere nice in another state.
Posted by: Romeo13

Unfortunately, Prop. 13 is a CA-only thing.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (KAi1n)

355 Backing out after all the tough guy trash talk is going to make her look scared. She really thinks she can bluff Trump at his own game.

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 04:15 PM (Ectld)

356 >>> 339 Kamala is scared to death to debate Trump. She is like a lamb to the slaughter, and she knows it. Political death awaits her on the debate stage, and she is sweating blood. I don't see how she goes through with it.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (pohLc)

Trump's sentencing is on September 18th, so too late for Judge Merchan to save her.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 04:15 PM (FnneF)

357 A dozen ways Harris can back out of the debate…
Posted by: tubal


...then go forward, then back up, then go forward, then back up, then...

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 27, 2024 04:15 PM (m5o7j)

358 Sidebar:
"Biden-Harris national security spokesman John Kirby, asked about the optics of blowing off the commemoration of the 13 dead Afghan servicemen while Trump laid wreaths in their honor: We can never repay them for their sacrifice so we're not even going to fucking bother trying
Gee I guess people should just blow off all funerals and memorials, then. We can never do enough to honor the memory of the fallen, so why fucking even bother. Just stay home and watch TV.
This from the (fake) president who promised the nation that he would always bring us honor and never let us down. Everyone remember how much niceties, graces, and social obligations meant in campaign season 2020? Well Biden's old and tired now so to hell with honor."

========

So...we can stop honoring George Floyd, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

359 339 Kamala is scared to death to debate Trump. She is like a lamb to the slaughter, and she knows it. Political death awaits her on the debate stage, and she is sweating blood. I don't see how she goes through with it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (pohLc)

A whole lot of moxie and white zin.

But mostly white zin. Oh, and a lifetime of unearned ego.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

360 Just a little sauv blanc to take the edge off.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 27, 2024 04:14 PM (6gSPY)

if she starts her crazed cackling, we know

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (ZtyUu)

361 334 Gavin would LOVE to tank her campaign.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (RIvkX)

So would Shapiro, Moore, and Whitmer.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (EgCB/)

362 This is hilarious.

CA voters are getting exactly what they voted for.

Enjoy paying higher taxes and more taxes to provide homes for illegals that you yourself can't afford.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (eDfFs)

363 355 Backing out after all the tough guy trash talk is going to make her look scared. She really thinks she can bluff Trump at his own game.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024

Nothing will happen. She started by tough talking this debate when Trump said he agreed with Biden, not her. Then he said fine, whatever. And she came back with calling him a coward again because NOW she wanted to change the rules and he wouldn’t.

But joy is in the air!

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:17 PM (p4NUW)

364 361 334 Gavin would LOVE to tank her campaign.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (RIvkX)

So would Shapiro, Moore, and Whitmer.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (EgCB/)

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Then they should fucking do it.

Work with the RNC to make sure that elections are clean.

Except, oh wait...Detroit only hired 50 Republicans to poll watch. Sure, Whitmer would love to be the candidate in 2028, but the party isn't laxing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:17 PM (GBKbO)

365 Blago assured me that Kamala was taking on all of Trump's campaign issues because she was so strong electorally, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=======
Less annoying than Zombie Montec or BSG posting here. More amusing than Scoggie Doggie or N on political topics.

MSM addict is my guess.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:17 PM (kW+z9)

366 >>So would Shapiro, Moore, and Whitmer.


along with 80+% of the people that have ever worked for her.

Posted by: garrett at August 27, 2024 04:17 PM (xZQNu)

367 When was Kammie's last debate in 2020? Didn't she drop out pretty early?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 04:17 PM (FnneF)

368 361 334 Gavin would LOVE to tank her campaign.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (RIvkX)

So would Shapiro, Moore, and Whitmer.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (EgCB/)

Idiots should've grabbed at the ring when they had the chance. Now they get to sit back and worry that the machine will deliver eight years of Kammy, rendering them all obsolete.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (KbCG3)

369 But joy is in the air!
Posted by: Piper
========
That ain't joy I am smelling.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (kW+z9)

370 367 When was Kammie's last debate in 2020? Didn't she drop out pretty early?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2024 04:17 PM (FnneF)

Yes... Before a single primary State

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (IyPmt)

371 Is the race in California this close that they have to push and advertise this nonsense?

Posted by: Jeff Roy at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (wI3DK)

372 So...we can stop honoring George Floyd, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 27, 2024 04:15 PM (GBKbO)


Not while we are still in the midst of John McCain's memorial!

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (D7oie)

373 According to the Bee, 97% of Kamala's staff quit because they couldn't handle all the joy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (pohLc)

374 Kamala is scared to death to debate Trump. She is like a lamb to the slaughter, and she knows it. Political death awaits her on the debate stage, and she is sweating blood. I don't see how she goes through with it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (pohLc)

A whole lot of moxie and white zin.

But mostly white zin. Oh, and a lifetime of unearned ego.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

She should just relax, she's dead anyway. If she wins the election she won't be able to escape the deep state and DNC treating her like a pawn much like Biden with less pants pooping.

She's always been someone's prop, and this wont change.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (n7h9X)

375 Kamala is scared to death to debate Trump. She is like a lamb to the slaughter, and she knows it. Political death awaits her on the debate stage, and she is sweating blood. I don't see how she goes through with it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (pohLc)

A whole lot of moxie and white zin.

But mostly white zin. Oh, and a lifetime of unearned ego.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

-----------------

Counting on getting the questions in advance in the moderators helping her.

[The only reason they didn't protect F. Joe in that last debate is that Obama had ordered the Code Red on him.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (Lg0gq)

376 My mom would be truly disgusted with Bush.
So we need to check him out. Check his financials.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (aGIYg)

377 Special counsel Jack Smith has charged former President Donald Trump in a superseding indictment in his federal election interference case.


For the love of Pete, when does this end?

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (p4NUW)

378 >>>I remember being outraged the first time I encountered one of those. They are flatly illegal. The State of California is not permitted to interfere with interstate traffic. I refused any questions and drove off with zero consequence.

Maybe California, but you do NOT want to piss off the agricultural inspectors in the state of Hawaii when arriving on a flight from overseas.

I can personally attest to that one.

Posted by: one hour sober at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (Y1sOo)

379 CA cut back on solar subsidies due to the cost. So, what do they do? They turn around and decide to give away even more money.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 27, 2024 04:20 PM (tT6L1)

380 339 Kamala is scared to death to debate Trump. She is like a lamb to the slaughter, and she knows it. Political death awaits her on the debate stage, and she is sweating blood. I don't see how she goes through with it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (pohLc)


Yep. Trump should agree to every condition she wants. If she wants mics on, fine. Trump remained silent over 95 precent of the time Joe spoke in the debate with Joey. Does Kammie have that discipline? I think Trump will be the first one able to say, "I'm speaking now, not you." She wants notes? Fine. Trump will use none and point-out every time she has to shuffle paper and read verbatim from her notes. And so on.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2024 04:20 PM (aBgBM)

381 First: yank all of California's federal funding. For everything.

Second: Participants in the program must be first-time homebuyers, and at least one must be a first-generation homebuyer,

Are they going to count the homes they owned or bought in their country of origin? Magic Eight ball says "No"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 27, 2024 04:20 PM (hB7mE)

382 https://tinyurl.com/ypauy87v

Link to ABC, sorry.

Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:20 PM (p4NUW)

383 "Special counsel Jack Smith has charged former President Donald Trump in a superseding indictment in his federal election interference case."

Shocking precisely nobody. Did anyone determine whether he has any authority yet or are we going to just let him ride that one out?

Posted by: Ribbed at August 27, 2024 04:20 PM (Ectld)

384 How can it even be legal

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 27, 2024 04:20 PM (YjECI)

385 Counting on getting the questions in advance in the moderators helping her.

[The only reason they didn't protect F. Joe in that last debate is that Obama had ordered the Code Red on him.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (Lg0gq)

She still won't make any sense. Trump can just sit back and ask why she didn't implement any of her "policies" over the last four years.

He should just dare her to throw Joe under the bus.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (KbCG3)

386 Enjoy paying higher taxes and more taxes to provide homes for illegals that you yourself can't afford.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 27, 2024 04:16 PM (eDfFs)
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You don't sound very enthusiastic, comrade/

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (RIvkX)

387 What are they buying for 150k in California?
Posted by: garrett


A nice mansion back in their home country.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (hB7mE)

388 The obvious move here is to use an illegal as a front to buy a house and then rent it out.

No down payment rental houses for below market mortgages. Just have to have an arrangement with the illegal frontman. Pay him a few pesos now and then.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (6mZoW)

389 Except, oh wait...Detroit only hired 50 Republicans to poll watch. Sure, Whitmer would love to be the candidate in 2028, but the party isn't laxing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You left out that Detroit is getting sued over it. State law prohibits what the Dems did there but the RNC is at least proactive enough to sue well before the election day. The RNC is suing Detroit over the conduct of the MI primary election and asking for relief for the fall election. Good lawfare that.

"Under Michigan law, commissioners "shall appoint at least one election inspector from each major political party and shall appoint an equal number, as nearly as possible, of election inspectors in each election precinct from each major political party."

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (kW+z9)

390 Nood, OJ Simpson

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (6gSPY)

391 373 According to the Bee, 97% of Kamala's staff quit because they couldn't handle all the joy.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (pohLc

Endless, non stop orgasms sound amazing....

Posted by: Stateless at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (jvJvP)

392 Bizarre NOOD

Posted by: It's me donna at August 27, 2024 04:22 PM (IyPmt)

393 Is the race in California this close that they have to push and advertise this nonsense?
Posted by: Jeff Roy at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (wI3DK)


Someone said recently that "Outrage is a finite resource" and this might be a part of that philosophy. Like drugs and anything to do with sex, and transgenderism and other violations of norms, this is to get everyone riled up and forget the illegals, the illegal elections, the failures of our intelligence community and foreign adventuring, and the utter illegality we have with no president and the cabinet heads running the most powerful government in history.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 04:22 PM (D7oie)

394 Is the race in California this close that they have to push and advertise this nonsense?

Posted by: Jeff Roy at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (wI3DK)

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They're trying to induce and hope to register to vote another 10 million illegal aliens before the election -- with the condition that they register in a battleground state first.

)only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 27, 2024 04:23 PM (Lg0gq)

395 Bulgar-

Here's a picture of a pretty girl for you because you were apparently taken in by some jokesters here. This one is actually showing a little bit of cleft in her blouse, but her boobs aren't hanging out like some of the pictures of internet gals which we have on here and she doesn't need to more fully show her breasts in order to prove she "like totally" supports conservative politics.

https://tinyurl.com/3aaaxb69

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 27, 2024 04:23 PM (dTTBf)

396 For the love of Pete, when does this end?
Posted by: Piper at August 27, 2024 04:19 PM (p4NUW)

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1/20/2025

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 27, 2024 04:24 PM (u73oe)

397 NOOD ALERT

Posted by: Max Power at August 27, 2024 04:25 PM (q177U)

398 Yep. Trump should agree to every condition she wants. If she wants mics on, fine. Trump remained silent over 95 precent of the time Joe spoke in the debate with Joey. Does Kammie have that discipline? I think Trump will be the first one able to say, "I'm speaking now, not you." She wants notes? Fine. Trump will use none and point-out every time she has to shuffle paper and read verbatim from her notes. And so on.
Posted by: Gref

The fact that Trump held firm is more likely because he needs the debate less than she does politically. The problem with what the Dems did is that Kamala never got to define herself with voters even at the DNC. Thus, the devastating ads that Trump is hitting her with and her basement campaign relying on media to defend her is not apparently working.

Kallisto remarked that this election seemed more like 1988 and Dukakis than recent ones. Different personality types but both Dukakis and Kamala (even more) were left undefined by conventions focusing on identity instead of policy.

Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:25 PM (kW+z9)

399 Is the race in California this close that they have to push and advertise this nonsense?
Posted by: Jeff Roy at August 27, 2024 04:18 PM (wI3DK)

Someone said recently that "Outrage is a finite resource" and this might be a part of that philosophy. Like drugs and anything to do with sex, and transgenderism and other violations of norms, this is to get everyone riled up and forget the illegals, the illegal elections, the failures of our intelligence community and foreign adventuring, and the utter illegality we have with no president and the cabinet heads running the most powerful government in history.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2024 04:22 PM (D7oie)

More likely it is Gavin Newsom fortifying himself for his next election as Senator or something. His term is up in 2025, and he needs some influence to get appointed to the position.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:26 PM (n7h9X)

400 Kallisto remarked that this election seemed more like 1988 and Dukakis than recent ones. Different personality types but both Dukakis and Kamala (even more) were left undefined by conventions focusing on identity instead of policy.
Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:25 PM (kW+z9)

Dukakis defined himself with the photo in a tank and about him not wanting to kill someone who murdered his wife.

You can be the most progressive thing in the world and everyone would understand if you said, "Yes, I would want to kill such a person, but my personal feelings shouldn't be national policy" and slide right by.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 27, 2024 04:29 PM (n7h9X)

401 "Under Michigan law, commissioners "shall appoint at least one election inspector from each major political party and shall appoint an equal number, as nearly as possible, of election inspectors in each election precinct from each major political party."
Posted by: whig at August 27, 2024 04:21 PM (kW+z9)

Wondering if Detroit is balking because they have had very few Repub election inspectors in the past. But, with 2020 cheating visibility, many more Repub election inspectors have now signed up, and they aren't used to that. An unintended consequence, so to speak.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at August 27, 2024 04:37 PM (3TH2o)

402
Fundamentally unfair? It's totally fair. Californians voted for this shyte.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at August 27, 2024 04:42 PM (I87yH)

403 Werner is puzzled that no one in the media has yet to mention the contingent of Frau Harris's campaign staff from Miskatonic University. It is not as if they were not prominent during the DNC. One need only look at the campaign platform which, between a pledge to supply every woman with a cat and mandatory free piggy back rides for every undocumented alien which the US citizens must take upon, includes the telling phrase "Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn." along with calls for a volume called the Necrinomicon in every grade school library. When Werner inquired about this, he was told to take it up with the "Mad Arab" Abdul Alhazred, but he was notably absent. My inquiries about the fleshy appendages eminating from the mouths of the 'Lovecraft Project" members led only to a lecture about respecting the dignity of tentacled-Americans.

Werner ks somewhat confused, uncertain why someone named Dagon is slated to become Secretary of the Navy, or the meaning of someone dreaming in his house R'lyeh such that what is not dead can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die. Has this been focused-grouped, I inquired of the Harris minions? Ach.

Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at August 27, 2024 04:42 PM (tmPIh)

404 I hope she comes to the debate well liquored up.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 27, 2024 04:12 PM (ZtyUu)

Me too. Drunk/drugged out Harris is the most entertaining. I think she really thinks she's pulling it off.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 27, 2024 04:47 PM (JCLJi)

405 Perhaps what I'm missing is that banks only need 10% in reserve, so they can write a check for $400K with only the 20% down payment in reserve ... the rest is they hold the note. So as long as the home holds its value, they come out OK.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 04:49 PM (Cus5s)

406 It seems illegal. It is illegal to discriminate on the basis of nationality, IIRC.

Posted by: Baldy at August 27, 2024 04:57 PM (8u+k4)

407 Wyoming's GOPe governor vetoed a regulation that required proof of living in Wyoming to vote for example.
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South Dakota us the same way. Noem signed a bill that you have to have a physical residence in SD. Pissed a lot of RVers who moved their "residence" to SD. She did this after promising to not do it. Florida gained a lot if residents after that.

Posted by: Megthered at August 27, 2024 04:59 PM (XR9vR)

408 So, people are going to be locked into a home for a loooong time.

Unless inflation raises the price of homes a lot.

Buy $750K home with $150k down.

Want to move in 5 years. Say the price of housing stayed flat. How can you repay the $150k?

And your next home? You don't get $150k again.

Posted by: Harun at August 27, 2024 04:59 PM (IuIym)

409 "Perhaps what I'm missing is that banks only need 10% in reserve, so they can write a check for $400K with only the 20% down payment in reserve"

no, that doesn't work either. The bank doesn't get the 20% down, that goes to the seller.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 27, 2024 05:17 PM (Cus5s)

410 OK. Cali gives you ("lends) the $150K.

You, Juan Wetback, show up at the bank seeking a mortgage on a piece of property.

The bank asks you to prove you can meet the monthly payments.

What then?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 27, 2024 07:50 PM (Wh0jq)

411 What could go wrong doing this?
Let me count the ways......

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