House Democrats Tell Their Media Allies to Put Out the Word: Don't Worry About Kamala's Communist Grocery-Price-Fixing Scheme, We'll Never Go Full Communist

We should take Communists at their word on this.

Why should anyone ever have to commit to a position publicly? Just leak your (alleged) position to your media allies to propagate.

Under pressure to defend Kamala Harris' grocery price gouging plan, some Democratic lawmakers are delivering a quiet message to anxious allies: Don't worry about the details. It's never going to pass Congress.
The Harris campaign's proposal, unveiled as part of her first big economic policy speech, has become a focal point for her presidential rival, Donald Trump, and fellow Republicans, who claim she's pushing "communist price controls." It has also alarmed food industry officials and even some left-of-center economists, who've warned such policies can hurt more than they help.
While much in Harris' price gouging plan remains vague, a central piece is simply a call for Congress to pass the first-ever federal ban on price gouging in the food and grocery sectors, which largely mirrors legislation reintroduced by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) earlier this year.
But such a bill has no chance of passing Congress anytime soon, even if Democrats win the White House and Congress this November, according to six Democratic lawmakers and five Democratic aides who were granted anonymity to discuss the matter candidly. These people said Democrats in Congress have privately been telling critics that this part of the Harris plan is not viable.
Rather, they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered.

In other words, it's a hustle and a lie and everyone understands this. But if you don't, then Politico is here to spread the news to the insiders.

"It's clear to me these are very general, very lofty goals," said one of the Democratic lawmakers, who was granted anonymity to candidly discuss the proposal.

They're also reassuring their tech bro billionaire donors: Don't worry, her proposal to put more money into antitrust actions won't pass either.

And Politico is here to tell the insiders not to worry while Kamala and the Democrats lie to the outsiders. Or vice versa -- who knows what their actual policies are.

It's all Yasser Arafat politics now, speaking in one language to the base and another language -- with different rhetoric -- for the outside world media.

We are all Palestinians now. #FreePalestine. I mean, we're metaphorically Palestinians and need to be freed.

Frank Luntz
@FrankLuntz
This might be why http://KamalaHarris.com doesn't have a single page of policy on it -- she can't even get Democratic lawmakers to support her proposals.

Oh, they support them -- they just want to lie people into communism.

Remember "you can keep your plan"? Remember Baracky Obammy telling you he was in favor of male-female marriage only?

They lie until they get enough power to do what they want, which they keep hidden from the public until it's time to strike.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:47 PM

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1 1st

Posted by: GF at August 26, 2024 01:46 PM (6oen/)

2 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 26, 2024 01:46 PM (IHOjG)

3 first comrade?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (vyHIp)

4 promising nothing but the tip, I see...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

5 Just The Tip

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (FnneF)

6 So it's FINE that the nominee wants to go Marxist. NOTHING to worry about!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (N1DT3)

7 House Democrats Tell Their Media Allies to Put Out the Word: Don't Worry About Kamala's Communist Grocery-Price-Fixing Scheme, We'll Never Go Full Communist.

Other words of wisdom they tell you....
1) I love you
2) The check is in the mail
3) I promise not to .......

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (N39Ws)

8 Kamala's Kommisars' - "why do you need to eat so much?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (vyHIp)

9 Why should anyone ever have to commit to a position publicly? Just leak your (alleged) position to your media allies to propagate.
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It's a beautiful system. If you're on the inside of it. And only until your lies and theft finally catch up to you. That last bit happens all at once, so the underlying bet is "I'm dead before that happens."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (HnUIn)

10 Rather, they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered.
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Sure, Jan.

Press 'X' to Doubt.

Etc.

When a man tells you he wants you dead, it behooves you to believe him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:48 PM (HnUIn)

11 I really wish I had the space to grow vegetables. Or have some berry vines.

Maybe I'll build a still instead.

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 26, 2024 01:48 PM (IHOjG)

12 ""Rather, they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered.

"It's clear to me these are very general, very lofty goals," said one of the Democratic lawmakers, who was granted anonymity to candidly discuss the proposal.""

OHHHH, so it's to let people know she understands the problems... but has no idea how to deal with them. How comforting.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (N1DT3)

13 An amazing public statement by Hakeem Jeffries this morning, safe to say that this is the Official Party Response to RFK Jr’s endorsement:

“Trump and RFK Jr. are unhinged conspiracy-peddling demagogues who deserve each other.
The American people deserve better.
Vote Harris-Walz!”

(Well that’ll make those stupid RFK voters support Kamala!)

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (gBVkZ)

14 Maybe I'll build a still instead.
Posted by: nurse ratched

You got a bathtub.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (CIS44)

15 >>> 8 Kamala's Kommisars' - "why do you need to eat so much?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2024 01:47 PM (vyHIp)

I've lost 100 pounds and three kids on the Uncle Joe Diet. Thanks Comrade Stalin!

Posted by: paraphrasing some other Moron from years ago at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (FnneF)

16 11 I really wish I had the space to grow vegetables. Or have some berry vines.

Maybe I'll build a still instead.
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Can you skin and smoke otters?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (FmapG)

17 They're also reassuring their tech bro billionaire donors: Don't worry, her proposal to put more money into antitrust actions won't pass either.
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That one I believe, and it's important. Kamala is Silicon Valley's girl. There is a zero percent chance she will go after them. That said, I *do* expect some antitrust action out of her administration - but highly selective. Think 'X' and 'SpaceX' and not the rest of the majors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (HnUIn)

18 They're also reassuring their tech bro billionaire donors: Don't worry, her proposal to put more money into antitrust actions won't pass either.

And Politico is here to tell the insiders not to worry while Kamala and the Democrats lie to the outsiders. Or vice versa -- who knows what their actual policies are.

It's all Yasser Arafat politics now, speaking in one language to the base and another language -- with different rhetoric -- for the outside world media.

Which is exactly what Lenin did.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 01:50 PM (xCA6C)

19 And I'm reading a biography of Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson. It's very good. Very, very good.

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 26, 2024 01:50 PM (IHOjG)

20 We need commonsense price control control.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at August 26, 2024 01:50 PM (JSF6W)

21 Just the tip.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 01:50 PM (krQz2)

22 >>But such a bill has no chance of passing Congress anytime soon

Don't believe them.
Just like the Green New Deal. Price controls will never pass, it will be called the "Family Nutrition Act" and do the same thing.

Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 01:50 PM (EboyK)

23 I think the real takeaway from this is not "Democrap speak with forked tongue." Of course they do. Water is wet and all. The real takeaway is that even hardcore Democraps realize how terrible this putang is and how poisonous policy proposals are. This is consistent with my strong belief that their internal polls have her polling just barely above "Jerking Off With Sandpaper Gloves."

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (iFTx/)

24 yeah, i don't believe them.

i'm sure they'll manage to make it happen once she's elected.

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (v6XNT)

25 Under pressure to defend Kamala Harris' grocery price gouging plan, some Democratic lawmakers are delivering a quiet message to anxious allies: Don't worry about the details. It's never going to pass Congress.

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Since when do such things have to pass Congress?

Kommie-la will have a girlboss pen and phone.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (qKecr)

26 Why is she promising things that not even her Democrat allies in Congress are willing to back?

Is it because they're so popular?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (tLPLv)

27 OHHHH, so it's to let people know she understands the problems... but has no idea how to deal with them. How comforting.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (N1DT3)

The logical end to such a price gouging rule is for stores to close in areas where costs are high, to avoid products that might trigger such a claim. So the government might make a buck, but the customers will likely not have any food to buy.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (n7h9X)

28 I, for one, would take anything as fact that a candidate will not say themselves while everyone else trumpets what they really mean. It's worked out well for the Commie Pope.

Posted by: Ribbed at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (Ectld)

29 price gouging = keeping up with inflation, with 2% profit margins

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (c39uV)

30 heh, pretty funny, Democrats claiming they won't go full commie.

Well, which is it? Are you telling the truth and throwing Kamala under the bus or are you lying and will support Kamala's commie goals?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (tT6L1)

31 Anyone here read The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (FmapG)

32 And I'm reading a biography of Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson. It's very good. Very, very good.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August . 26, 2024 01:50 PM (IHOjG)

Some people don't like Isaacson but I thought his biography on Leonardo DaVinci was very good

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (B1dzx)

33 Your ration of the whole salami has increased to just the tip.

Posted by: Haffhowershower at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (O4iqq)

34 In the US, around the time of the Revenue Act of 1913, people were very nervous they would be affected by the new federal taxes. The US government undertook a huge PR campaign. One part of that campaign was to send out a mass mailing in which they assured people the tax would only apply to the top 1% of income earners. Their proposal would top out at 7% rate for income over $500,000.

It was bullshit then and this is bullshit now.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (Odg76)

35 Baghdad Bob is ashamed of the democrats.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (/U5Yz)

36 "What the F? Seriously, just tell us what to feel and think already!" - Your average dem voter

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (KbCG3)

37 Kamala - Make the US Holdomor!

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (vyHIp)

38 From the concrete to the brick
Kamala sucked another dick

Posted by: XTC at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (UnA8+)

39 I never understood this mindset.

Democrats have bent us over and screwed us for at least four years. They are ruining the country. They have consistently voted to show their disdain for you. But we totally won’t do it again. Even though we said this last time and still voted against you.

I’m looking at you, Montana and Pennsylvania.

Oh but they’re “just like us”.

* makes jerking motion*

Posted by: Vengeance at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (mC3iL)

40 (D-Mass.)

= deranged mass, just like the current troll

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (naKkV)

41 25
Since when do such things have to pass Congress?

Kommie-la will have a girlboss pen and phone.
Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 01:51 PM (qKecr)

Sure. All the while squealing and cackling that the evil republicans won't pass legislation she wants.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (N39Ws)

42 It's all Yasser Arafat politics now, speaking in one language to the base and another language -- with different rhetoric -- for the outside world media.
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Good comparison. This is how it works in academia. The contemporary academy doesn't speak English anymore. That's what all the "woke" language is. The form of it that leaks out into the press and onto social media is, for the most part, a pidgin form of the language, a debased hybrid. Within the ivory tower, they speak the pure form of it.

The words are mostly English, but the language itself is distinct - and distinctly ecclesiastical. It's a class and group marker. If you can speak and understand the Postmodern language of the elite, you're an insider. The fellow travelers speak the debased version of it. Pig Latin vs. Latin. Like English in Jamaica. The elites can all speak real, actual, Queen's English. Many of the poor cannot, they speak only the pidgin form of English that is distinctly Jamaican.

The elites' Postmodern language not only acts as a class signal, it allows them to speak and plan in plain sight because it's so inscrutable to outsiders.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (HnUIn)

43 >>Or vice versa -- who knows what their actual policies are.

The shit they say to make sane people calm down and not panic... that's the lie. We are the ones being sold a line of bullshit, not their base. Their base always gets what they only dare to hint at during campaigns.

Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (EboyK)

44 >>> 11 I really wish I had the space to grow vegetables. Or have some berry vines.

Maybe I'll build a still instead.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 26, 2024 01:48 PM (IHOjG)

Lots of books like this:
https://shorturl.at/mMh08

I have berries in XL tubs.

I want a still...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (FnneF)

45 "We're not actually going to fix the cost of living, but we're not going to tell you that" -- The Democrats' vote strategy.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (krQz2)

46 a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans
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That damn President Trump for the past four years!!!

It's time to boot him out!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (c39uV)

47 nurse have you considered bathtub gin? I understand it was thing about 100 years ago.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 01:54 PM (tT6L1)

48 The logical end to such a price gouging rule is for stores to close in areas where costs are high

What makes you think that they will allow stores to close?

Posted by: Chuck C at August 26, 2024 01:54 PM (5wvSX)

49 Why would anyone think Harris would stoop to going through Congress to implement price controls when she's got the power to issue executive orders?

Posted by: 29Victor at August 26, 2024 01:54 PM (x7ywA)

50 Maybe I'll build a still instead.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo

Good shine is a great barter item.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 01:54 PM (/U5Yz)

51 Democrats need to be crushed like the cockroaches they are.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 26, 2024 01:54 PM (mC3iL)

52 17 They're also reassuring their tech bro billionaire donors: Don't worry, her proposal to put more money into antitrust actions won't pass either.
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That one I believe, and it's important. Kamala is Silicon Valley's girl. There is a zero percent chance she will go after them. That said, I *do* expect some antitrust action out of her administration - but highly selective. Think 'X' and 'SpaceX' and not the rest of the majors.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Don't count on it. Kamala is purely situational.

Mega Corps Inc and wealthy assholes have pretty much shit in their nest with the bases of both parties which leaves corporate friendly Dems and GOPe uniparty types subject to being defenestrated by their political opponents on the left and right respectively.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 01:55 PM (kW+z9)

53 We are all Palestinians now. #FreePalestine. I mean, we're metaphorically Palestinians and need to be freed.

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Metaphoric Palestinians for Trump!

Where do I get my red MAGA keffiyeh?

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 01:55 PM (qKecr)

54 They can whisper sweet nothings to the press all they want; however, we've seen big-ears and dementia boy sic the AG on corps they don't approve of... elon for example.

The press will change their tune to let their LIV know that price controls will really work this time.
**** liars.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 01:55 PM (+VpC3)

55 "they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered."

so, either they're lying now by saying the feel the pain and WILL do something about it, or they're lying in the future and don't actually give a shit and won't do anything about it.

how can anyone see this and still vote dem?

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 26, 2024 01:55 PM (v6XNT)

56 "It has also alarmed food industry officials and even some left-of-center economists, who've warned such policies can hurt more than they help."

What a weasel phrase from the writer. Please take a moment to explain how price controls have ever "helped" an economy. What are the examples you'd like to weigh against the damage they invariably cause?

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (hCzfy)

57
I saw Metaphysical Palestinians open for Spirit at the Fillmore West in '72.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (eDfFs)

58 Right, sort of like if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Posted by: Trip at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (0DiSE)

59 Also, yesterday Senator Cotton had to point out to "journalist" Jonathan Karl that yes, KamelToe wants to ban private health insurance.

Karl denied it then tried to minimize it.

https://tinyurl.com/5n7xwsrz

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (i7Q7S)

60 The elites' Postmodern language not only acts as a class signal, it allows them to speak and plan in plain sight because it's so inscrutable to outsiders.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:53 PM (HnUIn)

The reverse is also true in the military, where non-coms report to DEI administrators by speaking in acronyms.

Posted by: Auspex at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (j4U/Z)

61 Rather, they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered.
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Let's apply some Occam to this.

If this is supposed to be a signal that she "understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans," then why didn't she say *that* instead of talking about price controls? If groceries are too expensive and she both understands *and* acknowledges that, then why is her message coded? Why is her coded message about price controls instead of broader inflation management?

I can't think of a reason one would do this, and I think the rational explanation is that it *wasn't* a coded message to get across a level of "understanding" about the issue at hand. Viable or not, this was her idea of what to do.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (HnUIn)

62 I guess a promise of reparations is a bridge too far
for the Dems. That's a position that has to be presented at lower levels. Like Obama campaigning being against Gay marriage. It's all lies all the time.

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (B1dzx)

63 a central piece is simply a call for Congress to pass the first-ever federal ban on price gouging in the food and grocery sectors
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That's the stupidest part to me: "a ban on gouging".

How does one "ban" an excess?

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 01:57 PM (krQz2)

64 "Trust Us"? After eight years of screaming, "burn it all down" and 4 years of screaming, "pack the court, get rid of filibuster rules, make Democrat strongholds into states"?
No, I will never trust a Democrat politician for the rest of my life.

Posted by: wferrin at August 26, 2024 01:57 PM (Fpdiz)

65 Should we believe lying liar Kamala or a group of Democrat lying liars in Congress?

I'm sick of the continual lying by Democrats and The Lapdog Media. Hopefully enough other Americans will also be in this Voting Season.

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2024 01:57 PM (aBgBM)

66 Can you skin and smoke otters?
Posted by: Pudinhead

You can try; but, they are really hard to keep lit.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 01:57 PM (+VpC3)

67 how can anyone see this and still vote dem?
Posted by: SturmToddler

I'll ask the Karen walking by with her purse rat on a leash while wearing colorful mask what she thinks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 01:57 PM (/U5Yz)

68 It's straight in our faces. Reminds me of the movie, "Blink twice"? Billionaire on island killin people or whatever.

They want the USA commie.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (Z8Yh2)

69 Don't count on it. Kamala is purely situational.

Mega Corps Inc and wealthy assholes have pretty much shit in their nest with the bases of both parties which leaves corporate friendly Dems and GOPe uniparty types subject to being defenestrated by their political opponents on the left and right respectively.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 01:55 PM (kW+z9)
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Sure. That's how fascism works. But since Silicon Valley - with the notable exceptions of Musk and Theil - is firmly on Team State and Party, they have nothing to worry about and they know it. It's situational, but the situation isn't going to change unless they change it - which they won't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (HnUIn)

70 You trusted me?

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (qZdIZ)

71 - nurse

Container gardening.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (aCV/b)

72 Trump is too extreme!! Reee!!

Democrats have undermined our First Amendment and conspired to silence anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They have opened up the border, in violation of federal law, and caused an invasion of crime and a raid on our treasury. They have weaponized our justice system against their opponents. They have destroyed our economy by handing out our tax money to their supporters and illegal aliens. And much more.

But, Trump. Reeeer!!

Posted by: Vengeance at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (mC3iL)

73 What a weasel phrase from the writer. Please take a moment to explain how price controls have ever "helped" an economy. What are the examples you'd like to weigh against the damage they invariably cause?
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 26, 2024 01:56 PM (hCzfy)

Price controls mean that either production goes down, or quality goes down. And good sawdust isn't cheap.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (naKkV)

74 Under pressure to defend Kamala Harris' grocery price gouging plan, some Democratic lawmakers are delivering a quiet message to anxious allies: Don't worry about the details. It's never going to pass Congress.
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Wow. That's pretty demeaning towards a joyful, strong, empowered woman like Harris. Having to have men go behind her to try and reassure their allies that she is all talk and not to worry. My stars and garters!

Posted by: Cheri at August 26, 2024 01:58 PM (oiNtH)

75 Sure, it's Bunkum.

Just like gay marriage -- never happen.
Or open borders -- never happen
Or trying to end ICE cars -- never happen
Or shutting down US energy production -- never happen
Or electricity prices "necessarily skyrocket"ing. -- never happen

Wait a sec., this shit that the "moderates" tell us will never happen keeps happening.

Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 01:59 PM (EboyK)

76 It has also alarmed food industry officials and even some left-of-center economists, who've warned such policies can hurt more than they help.
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Can hurt? There is no "can" as in might also work. Price controls always fail. Always. There is no wiggle room on this.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 01:59 PM (tT6L1)

77 "how can anyone see this and still vote dem?
Posted by: SturmToddler"

You could ask my dad.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 26, 2024 01:59 PM (Z8Yh2)

78 I am looking forward to a simpler selection that price fixing will bring. Who really needs twenty+ different kinds of bread to choose from anyway.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 26, 2024 01:59 PM (pXjLS)

79 What makes you think that they will allow stores to close?
Posted by: Chuck C

Even totalitarian states have to bend to the market. When the owners go bankrupt and suppliers are not paid, a store will close. The only solution is what some leftist cities are proposing which is government operated stores. Those too will go under in turn unless the government takes over supply industries, which then too fail unless they wipe out all competition and kill the kulaks.

Then everyone except the nomenklatura starve to death. That is why Hungary is so anti Commie for the most part--Bela Kun's short lived reign post WWI. Nasty, brutish, and short was Kun's epitaph.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (kW+z9)

80 "how can anyone see this and still vote dem?
Posted by: SturmToddler"

You could ask my dad.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 26, 2024 01:59 PM

Or my mom.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (QNSds)

81 Does she have a plan to stop taxpayer gouging? No? That's funny...

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (HYrf+)

82 how can anyone see this and still vote dem?
Posted by: SturmToddler

Um, she has a vagina. Apparently stunning and brave.

At least according to some of my acquaintances. You know, "It's Time!", or "I'm with her!"

It will surprise no one that one of those gals is named "Bambi". For reals.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (WXNFJ)

83 Communist, especially American communists, would never lie to gain power. NEVER!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (17s+e)

84 Rather, they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered.
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And "we're not going to actually fix anything".

That's why they hate Trump. "Messaging" isn't his forte.

He weirdly believes in doing something.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (krQz2)

85 Even totalitarian states have to bend to the market. When the owners go bankrupt and suppliers are not paid, a store will close. The only solution is what some leftist cities are proposing which is government operated stores. Those too will go under in turn unless the government takes over supply industries, which then too fail unless they wipe out all competition and kill the kulaks. ...
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (kW+z9)
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It's like you have a crystal ball!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

86
Hard to believe that anyone believes the Democrats after the Obamacare fiasco.

That was one lie after another.

The BONUS! was the resulting Pile O'Crap of Obamacare.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 26, 2024 02:01 PM (eDfFs)

87 >>>We are all Palestinians now.

I mean, we're not.

Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:01 PM (64Zez)

88 Best case - they have no intention of pushing this legislation.

That still means they are moving the Overton Window and that means it *will* happen at some point in future unless we turn things around.

Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 02:01 PM (EboyK)

89 Commie House Democrats: That thing in your mouth? Don't worry, we won't do that. It'll be just the tip, we promise!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2024 02:02 PM (Aqu9a)

90 Kamala's messaging is this: Trust us, government is the solution to the problem we created.

Sure, prices are higher because we put too much money into the economy, but, trust us, we can fix the problem through more government intervention.

It's always more government with these people, never less.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:02 PM (tT6L1)

91 Some people don't like Isaacson but I thought his biography on Leonardo DaVinci was very good

Posted by: polynikes at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (B1dzx)

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+1

Also liked his biography of Benjamin Franklin.

Am curious but haven't read his biographies of Jobs & Musk -- although I have read other biographies written about those two.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 02:02 PM (tJKE4)

92 I'm totally in favor of freeing that party from all political presence in this nation. It's well past time the adults were in charge.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 26, 2024 02:02 PM (hKoQL)

93 Can hurt? There is no "can" as in might also work. Price controls always fail. Always. There is no wiggle room on this.
Posted by: blake

OPM wage and price controls plus rationing during WWII were a natural experiment in the US. Post hoc, most economic historians regard it as a negative to the war effort. Same and even more desperate measures in the UK which left it much weaker over the next 20 years than its literally devastated Euro counterparts.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:03 PM (kW+z9)

94 You could just as easily say Speed Limits are "bans on speeding".

But that would be stupid.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:03 PM (krQz2)

95 Attention, Komrads! The chocolate rations have been increased from 3oz to 2oz.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2024 02:03 PM (g8Ew8)

96 >>> 92 I'm totally in favor of freeing that party from all political presence in this nation. It's well past time the adults were in charge.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 26, 2024 02:02 PM (hKoQL)

The commies identify as adults.

(They are mistaken)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:03 PM (FnneF)

97 how can anyone see this and still vote dem?
Posted by: SturmToddler

I'll ask the Karen walking by with her purse rat on a leash while wearing colorful mask what she thinks.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 01:57 PM (/U5Yz)

i could ask the kids staying with us, but the mrs gets upset when we talk politics. thinks it shouldn't be discussed... i said that's the problem, the ids never had to think critically about their positions, they can just go with whatever "feels good" to them and damn the consequences.

but i might figure out how to sneak this in tonight...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 26, 2024 02:03 PM (v6XNT)

98 78 I am looking forward to a simpler selection that price fixing will bring. Who really needs twenty+ different kinds of bread to choose from anyway.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 26, 2024 01:59 PM (pXjLS)

Right on! You could all afford to drop a few pounds and walk away from the dinner table a little hungry as well.

Posted by: Auspex at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (j4U/Z)

99 I often say that Democrats prefer their candidates to be liars. That's why they finally learned to love Biden. He was so blatant about it.

One wonders who the target for the price control lie is then? If everyone hates the idea, why does she make the proposal?

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (QfvaV)

100
It's okay, you can trust us! Everything we're saying is a lie!

Incidentally, I made the mistake of listening to about 20 minutes of 2WAY this morning, thinking that even Mark Halperin would see the significance of RFK and Trump teaming up. Nope! Blackpilled again.

And happy Monday to you all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (I87yH)

101 "We'll never go full communist," say people who keep trying to saddle non-college graduates with college debt.

Posted by: "Sure, Jan" - as the Ewok likes to say at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (CzMNg)

102 Patrick Webb @RealPatrickWebb 2h
BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (c39uV)

103 Conducator Ceausescu rises, and all Romania joins him!

Conducator Ceausescu reads the news, and all Romania joins him!

Conducator Ceausescu eats breakfast, and all Romania wishes him a good appetite!

Posted by: Ted Torgerson Trump/Vance 2024 at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (wGerL)

104 It's like you have a crystal ball!
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Heh. Economics is the dismal science, history is the tragic science. Both have plentiful examples of how dogs return to their vomit as Kipling says.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (kW+z9)

105 Joseph Stalin after the purge: "C'mon, can't you guys take a joke?"

Posted by: Paco at August 26, 2024 02:05 PM (njExo)

106 Has the "throw the borders open" ever passed congress? Has the print money like drunken sailors ever passed congress?

EOs, baby. That's where it's at.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 26, 2024 02:05 PM (wBaIH)

107 You can buy a quality copper still, frankly, for less expense than if you tried to build one yourself.

https://tinyurl.com/4v3k7zad

Charred White Oak NEW aging barrels are also available in sizes ranging from 1 gal, all the way to full distillery sized.

Pro Tip. Buy your grains, sugars, yeast and other such, from sources separated by dozens or a hundred miles or more. For cash. And never buy from the same source twice in a single year.

There is no such thing as TOO paranoid in such endeavors.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2024 02:05 PM (kQgoX)

108 "Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event."

================

Spoiler alert: A bunch of left wing imbeciles will take to X to call her a traitor.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:05 PM (i7Q7S)

109 It's okay, you can trust us! Everything we're saying is a lie!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (I87yH)
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Isn't that how you can sum up the entire Harris 2024 campaign?

It's all takebacks.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:05 PM (krQz2)

110
The Metaphysical Palestinians were originally called the-

Metaphorical Palestinians until they added Joe Walsh on guitar to their line-up,

then they became the Metaphysical Palestinians.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (eDfFs)

111 "Under pressure to defend Kamala Harris' grocery price gouging plan, some Democratic lawmakers are delivering a quiet message to anxious allies: Don't worry about the details. It's never going to pass Congress."

So what if it's never gonna pass Congress? It will never get to Congress. It will be done by EO or federal agency or some other shady executive-only sham.

Congress did to itself done something that nobody else has been able to do in 200 years: Make Congress irrelevant. These impotent shitbags willingly ceded their authority to Gay Lightbringer the Magical Negro, and they never got it back.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (iFTx/)

112 Spoiler alert: A bunch of left wing imbeciles will take to X to call her a traitor.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:05 PM (i7Q7S)
---
"Proof" that Russia wants Trump to win!

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (krQz2)

113 AmericanPapaBear @AmericaPapaBear 57m
President Trump just used Obama's DNC speech as a campaign ad.

🔥🔥🔥

https://tinyurl.com/4fnykf6v
18 seconds; antidote to Kamala campaigning against her own Vice Presidency.

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (c39uV)

114 I am looking forward to a simpler selection that price fixing will bring. Who really needs twenty+ different kinds of bread to choose from anyway.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

And the real ration will be no-bread on the shelves.
No flour.
No electricity to bake your own if you had any flour.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (+VpC3)

115 >>>We are all Palestinians now.

I got dibs on the name Muhammad al-Muhammad.

Posted by: one hour sober at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (Y1sOo)

116 Patrick Webb @RealPatrickWebb 2h
BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.
Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (c39uV)

I'm still waiting for John Fetterman to endorse Trump. I believe it might just happen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (naKkV)

117 Dog Vomit is a little spit of a town in Texas.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 26, 2024 02:07 PM (VVvwK)

118 Heh. Economics is the dismal science, history is the tragic science. Both have plentiful examples of how dogs return to their vomit as Kipling says.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (kW+z9)
------------

Toss in Ozymandias and the bases are covered.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:07 PM (tT6L1)

119 they've argued it's a messaging tactic -- a way to show that she understands food prices remain an economic burden for many Americans and to redirect voters' anger about inflation to corporations, in a way that progressives in particular have cheered.

This may be the dumbest thing I'll hear all week - though the week is, indeed, still very young.

Posted by: Paco at August 26, 2024 02:07 PM (njExo)

120 Ace, read the Politico article. Outside of Governor Whitmer who said about the plan " don't read too much into this" their is not a single Dem congresscritter who would go on the record against price controls. That horror show Jayapal is in favor as is Sen Casey and Warren. Every Republican candidate should pin this in their opponents

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 26, 2024 02:07 PM (aYl1o)

121 >>> 116 Patrick Webb @RealPatrickWebb 2h
BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.
Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (c39uV)

I'm still waiting for John Fetterman to endorse Trump. I believe it might just happen.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:06 PM (naKkV)

But who will the lump endorse???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:07 PM (FnneF)

122 I’m looking at you, Montana and Pennsylvania.

I think we did our part. Trump was up 700,000 by the time we went to bed. We might have made it if we'd blown the bridges over the Delaware.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (LbnIB)

123 116 Patrick Webb @RealPatrickWebb 2h
BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.
Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (c39uV)

This one is not a surprise

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (IyPmt)

124 i could ask the kids staying with us, but the mrs gets upset when we talk politics. thinks it shouldn't be discussed... i said that's the problem, the ids never had to think critically about their positions, they can just go with whatever "feels good" to them and damn the consequences.

but i might figure out how to sneak this in tonight...
Posted by: SturmToddler

A few truth bombs and where they might be corroborated is a tactic I used against ideologues. Doesn't work with the hard core believers but those that can be saved by reason and evidence it does. Amity Schlaes Forgotten Man is one example; Fleming's The New Dealer's War is even more potent. Remember kids are largely post literate nowadays so point them to the audible versions if such exists.

Most young people believe history begins with year zero when they were born and everything is possible. True history including economic history fixes that belief in a hurry.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (kW+z9)

125 It will be hard to save America from the politically incontinent.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (krQz2)

126 I give you my word as a pro-market Democrat I would never vote to enact communism.

Posted by: Bart Stupak 2024 at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (73voq)

127 "Has the "throw the borders open" ever passed congress? Has the print money like drunken sailors ever passed congress? EOs, baby. That's where it's at."

It requires Congress. ... UNLESS there is an "EMERGENCY" status that demands immediate action.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (Cus5s)

128 "So what if it's never gonna pass Congress? It will never get to Congress. It will be done by EO or federal agency or some other shady executive-only sham."

=================

Want a good laugh?

Ask a TRUMP IS A DICTATOR!! left winger what power the President has to set grocery store prices.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (i7Q7S)

129 OHHHH, so it's to let people know she understands the problems... but has no idea how to deal with them. How comforting.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 26, 2024 01:49 PM (N1DT3)

Kitten, just say, "I feel your pain" and bite your lower lip. Practice in the mirror until it sounds and looks convincing.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (Aqu9a)

130 It was amazing to see all the lefty LIVs I know go from:

1) Inflation is Trump's fault

2) There is no inflation. Prices have not gone up

3) The inflation is a sign of a growing economy you should thank Biden

4) All the food/rent/energy/etc/etc companies have increased prices at the exact same time because they suddenly became greedy and we need the government to protect us from them

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (oZhjI)

131 @121 Fetterman's lump will endorse Quaid

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (aYl1o)

132 130 It was amazing to see all the lefty LIVs I know go from:

1) Inflation is Trump's fault

2) There is no inflation. Prices have not gone up

3) The inflation is a sign of a growing economy you should thank Biden

4) All the food/rent/energy/etc/etc companies have increased prices at the exact same time because they suddenly became greedy and we need the government to protect us from them
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (oZhjI)

======

Often in the same thread from DU.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

133 "It's clear to me these are very general, very lofty goals," said one of the Democratic lawmakers, who was granted anonymity to candidly discuss the proposal.
--------

This calls into question the definition of 'lofty'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (XeU6L)

134 BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.

I bet Kyrsten Synema (sp?) will also join. And one or more of the Fettermen.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (LbnIB)

135 we need LOTS of helicopters for these commie friends of ours. Gravity works!!!

Posted by: yumper at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (phkng)

136 They lie until they get enough power to do what they want, which they keep hidden from the public until it's time to strike.

Which is something, unfortunately, a disturbingly large swath of the electorate is too stupid to ever understand.

Posted by: Paco at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (njExo)

137 The ONLY way to stop Harris-flation is to stop Harris-spending

Give her another 4 years and grocery prices will again at LEAST double.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (oZhjI)

138 Same and even more desperate measures in the UK which left it much weaker over the next 20 years than its literally devastated Euro counterparts.
Posted by: whig

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Yes, but did rationing help them during the war?
Granted that they kept rationing after the war, and voted in a commie, and they were bombed to shit so it is hard to tease out what caused problems 20 years later.

I never really thought about if rationing helped or hurt, but I tend to assume it was good for moral knowing that no one else was getting butter or bacon. Not sure.

Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (EboyK)

139 Do you think Fetterman owes Trump for pushing Oz?

Man when you read that out loud it's kind of poetic.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (73voq)

140 And the real ration will be no-bread on the shelves.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Because they hired Ace to install the shelving, and they fell down?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (v6JzV)

141 Toss in Ozymandias and the bases are covered.
Posted by: blake
=======
Thanks Blake for the reminder, many a year since I read Shelley's poem.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (kW+z9)

142 I have many friends who are die hard Dems. So ask "what would Stalin do?"

Answer: Make them all die hard.

Thanks Uncle Joe!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (wBaIH)

143 "34 In the US, around the time of the Revenue Act of 1913, people were very nervous they would be affected by the new federal taxes. The US government undertook a huge PR campaign. One part of that campaign was to send out a mass mailing in which they assured people the tax would only apply to the top 1% of income earners. Their proposal would top out at 7% rate for income over $500,000.

It was bullshit then and this is bullshit now.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2024 01:52 PM (Odg76)"

Bunch of my peers making 200k/yr and up with several recent years of six figure bonuses and miscellaneous payouts are all cheerleading this shit, happy that the Dems are gonna "stick it to the rich people". The frustrating part is that 20 years from now if they're still alive most will never admit to being fucking retarded.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (vWeTL)

144 ... 4) All the food/rent/energy/etc/etc companies have increased prices at the exact same time because they suddenly became greedy and we need the government to protect us from them
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (oZhjI)
++++
I *love* this one.

If corporations are evil Trumpists, why didn't they jack up prices under Trump when they could be confident that their pal wouldn't call them on it? Why did they give up *billions* - probably hundreds of billions - in extra profits when they didn't have to? They love Trump and Trump loves them, so why did they wait to squeeze cash out of the American People when it could blow back on them?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (HnUIn)

145 Most young people believe history begins with year zero when they were born and everything is possible. True history including economic history fixes that belief in a hurry.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (kW+z9)

I have 2, 20 year old Grandsons and an 19 year old grandDaughter .. The boys are voting Trump the Girl Kamala... Grrrrrl power

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2024 02:11 PM (IyPmt)

146 @121 Fetterman's lump will endorse Quaid

Yeah but the Quaid in our timeline went back to working for the bad guys and stupping his maid...but mostly stupping his maid.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:11 PM (oZhjI)

147 "All the food/rent/energy/etc/etc companies have increased prices at the exact same time because they suddenly became greedy"

=============

I asked some of my LIV friends on Facebook: "If inflation is caused by corporate greed, why didn't these companies jack up prices from 2017-2020 when Trump was in office?"

They couldn't answer.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:11 PM (i7Q7S)

148 "It's clear to me these are very general, very lofty goals," said one of the Democratic lawmakers, who was granted anonymity to candidly discuss the proposal.
--------
This calls into question the definition of 'lofty'. - Mike Hammer

I think they mean Kamala was high when she floated this idea.

Posted by: Paco at August 26, 2024 02:11 PM (njExo)

149 KumAllah is going to go full DIRECTIVE 10-289.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 26, 2024 02:11 PM (17s+e)

150 Bunch of my peers making 200k/yr and up with several recent years of six figure bonuses and miscellaneous payouts are all cheerleading this shit, happy that the Dems are gonna "stick it to the rich people". The frustrating part is that 20 years from now if they're still alive most will never admit to being fucking retarded.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (vWeTL)

Trump's SALT cap ripped off a lot of masks.

Not one freaking dem noticed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (KbCG3)

151 "Yes, but did rationing help them during the war?
Granted that they kept rationing after the war, and voted in a commie, and they were bombed to shit so it is hard to tease out what caused problems 20 years later.

I never really thought about if rationing helped or hurt, but I tend to assume it was good for moral knowing that no one else was getting butter or bacon. Not sure.
Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (EboyK)"

Contrast the UK recovery to other nations, especially axis/unaligned ones, and it becomes very evident that their decline was almost entirely self-inflicted.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (vWeTL)

152 "...But such a bill has no chance of passing Congress anytime soon, even if Democrats win the White House and Congress this November, according to six Democratic lawmakers and five Democratic aides who were granted anonymity to discuss the matter candidly."

No. They've been granted anonymity so that the press doesn't need to go back to them when it turns out that they lied to the press to get Kamala elected POTUS.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (0CU3H)

153

Democrat voter base is so stupid that any policy platform isn't needed.

They've created illiterate pod people. Reading is hard!

ABORTION!

Wee.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (et1vG)

154 The ONLY way to stop Harris-flation is to stop Harris-spending

I will put an end to fellation once I reach the highest office!

Posted by: Kommie-la at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (LbnIB)

155 Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.
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*?*

But will Command Sergeant Major (Ret.) endorse this?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (XeU6L)

156 >>> 144 ... 4) All the food/rent/energy/etc/etc companies have increased prices at the exact same time because they suddenly became greedy and we need the government to protect us from them
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (oZhjI)
++++
I *love* this one.

If corporations are evil Trumpists, why didn't they jack up prices under Trump when they could be confident that their pal wouldn't call them on it? Why did they give up *billions* - probably hundreds of billions - in extra profits when they didn't have to? They love Trump and Trump loves them, so why did they wait to squeeze cash out of the American People when it could blow back on them?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (HnUIn)

"... because they were AFRAID of Trump the Tyrant. Vote Tyranny for low prices. Vote Trump." -- TJM, paraphrased

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (FnneF)

157 seen at bloomberg x/economics: more joy and fascism:

In a new book, Nicola Twilley says we need to rethink the impact refrigeration is having on the planet.

"You really don't need to have a tomato in December," Twilley says on this week's Zero podcast. "Just don't do it."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (CWTWj)

158 "@121 Fetterman's lump will endorse Quaid"

nice

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (Z8Yh2)

159
Bunch of my peers making 200k/yr and up with several recent years of six figure bonuses and miscellaneous payouts are all cheerleading this shit, happy that the Dems are gonna "stick it to the rich people". The frustrating part is that 20 years from now if they're still alive most will never admit to being fucking retarded.

Yep I know a bunch of leftist LIVs making bank that tell me:

1) They are tapped out and need help from the government
2) The rich need to "pay their fair share" with MASSIVE tax increases

And the people saying this live in a multi-million dollar house, have two new cars, take frequent overseas vacations, have "help" at home, and at most 1 kid...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (oZhjI)

160 153 Democrat voter base is so stupid that any policy platform isn't needed.

They've created illiterate pod people. Reading is hard!

ABORTION!

Wee.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (et1vG)

=======

1.7 million ballots without images out of 5 million in GA in 2020.

A full third arguably fraudulent.

They do not need voters. They need a narrative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

161 Looks like Kamala’s open orders is leaking here more and more - the police just nabbed a man in Mobile who cut the throat of another man. Paublo Barrios Maldonado is the suspect. Juan Acuno was the victim.

Posted by: Piper at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (pZEOD)

162 "Most young people believe history begins with year zero when they were born and everything is possible. True history including economic history fixes that belief in a hurry.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:08 PM (kW+z9)"

This is compounded by a generation of teachers who basically stopped teaching US history around 1980 or so, claiming it was "too recent to be worth covering"... then kept doing that for 20+ years.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (vWeTL)

163 150 Bunch of my peers making 200k/yr and up with several recent years of six figure bonuses and miscellaneous payouts are all cheerleading this shit, happy that the Dems are gonna "stick it to the rich people". The frustrating part is that 20 years from now if they're still alive most will never admit to being fucking retarded.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (vWeTL)

Trump's SALT cap ripped off a lot of masks.

Not one freaking dem noticed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:12 PM (KbCG3)

And the moment that the SALT cap passed, you heard nothing more about the argument that Red states were actually freeriding off the Blue states.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (0CU3H)

164 159 And the people saying this live in a multi-million dollar house, have two new cars, take frequent overseas vacations, have "help" at home, and at most 1 kid...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (oZhjI)

=======

"The rich are people who make 10% more than I do."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

165 Yes, but did rationing help them during the war?
Granted that they kept rationing after the war, and voted in a commie, and they were bombed to shit so it is hard to tease out what caused problems 20 years later.

I never really thought about if rationing helped or hurt, but I tend to assume it was good for moral knowing that no one else was getting butter or bacon. Not sure.
Posted by: Gentlemen
========
Both in the UK and the US, rationing and price controls spurred a massive black market. You get a bit of how black marketeers were viewed in some UK series but I'll wager you will not see the same coverage in the US despite its known existence.

Economic historians reviewing the records of the dead OPM and its British counterpart have come to the conclusion that it actually hurt the war effort via the domestic economy more than it helped.

The OPM was based on the foundation that Wilson laid in WWI except the negative effects did not last as long as the US entered the war late.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (kW+z9)

166 Comrade Kamala is the most unqualified person to ever run for President and it isn't even close #KraftDurchFreude #枪杆子里面出政权

Megyn Kelly
@megynkelly
The campaign claims she is going to give an interview but not solo - it will be w/Walz, her Emotional Support Governor.
Quote
Philip Melanchthon Wegmann
@PhilipWegmann·1h
Scheduling: Harris told reporters on August 8th she wanted "to get an interview scheduled before the end of the month." There are five days left, and no word on who gets the first sit-down.
10:46 AM · Aug 26, 2024

Libby Emmons
@libbyemmons
Kamala’s campaign demands seated debate, with notes, for Sept. 10 ABC event: report
From thepostmillennial.com
https://t.co/sLJnF5DFri
7:22 AM · Aug 26, 2024

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (9aVck)

167 Kamala's promises have no teeth.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (4DWWO)

168 163 And the moment that the SALT cap passed, you heard nothing more about the argument that Red states were actually freeriding off the Blue states.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (0CU3H)

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Troll brought it up last week.

Also, trolls never take into account military spending anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

169 "You really don't need to have a tomato in December," Twilley says on this week's Zero podcast. "Just don't do it."

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What impact is her internet usage having on the planet?
She has an iPhone, right?

Why doesn't she just throw out all of her electronics and live on the street to save the planet?

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (i7Q7S)

170 143 Bunch of my peers making 200k/yr and up with several recent years of six figure bonuses and miscellaneous payouts are all cheerleading this shit, happy that the Dems are gonna "stick it to the rich people". The frustrating part is that 20 years from now if they're still alive most will never admit to being fucking retarded.
Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (vWeTL)

Complete Idiocy.

Thinking that because they don't have Jeff Bezos money that they're "the poor".

Posted by: XTC at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (UnA8+)

171 I asked some of my LIV friends on Facebook: "If inflation is caused by corporate greed, why didn't these companies jack up prices from 2017-2020 when Trump was in office?"

They couldn't answer.

Because the honest answer is they don't really care. They are repeating a talking point. What do they actual care about?

The lefty elites: Power. By any means necessary

AWFLs: Status. Supporting lefty causes on nextdoor/facebook/instagram gets you status. What the causes are don't matter

The FSA: Money. Who is going to give me the most money?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (oZhjI)

172 >>> 157 seen at bloomberg x/economics: more joy and fascism:

In a new book, Nicola Twilley says we need to rethink the impact refrigeration is having on the planet.

"You really don't need to have a tomato in December," Twilley says on this week's Zero podcast. "Just don't do it."
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (CWTWj)

Sounds like SOMEBODY wants to eet zee boogz!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (FnneF)

173 Thanks Blake for the reminder, many a year since I read Shelley's poem.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:10 PM (kW+z9)
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I won't claim to be much for poetry but Kipling has some great stuff.

Three poems I truly like, "The Gods of the Copybook Headings", "Ozymandias," and "The Charge of the Light Brigade."

Wait, make it four. "The Wreck of the Hesperus."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (tT6L1)

174 4) All the food/rent/energy/etc/etc companies have increased prices at the exact same time because they suddenly became greedy and we need the government to protect us from them
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (oZhjI)

This is a very powerful meme with the younger voters.

It's all they hear from the "experts". This generation is very susceptible to the Appeal to Authority Fallacy.

Tough to make an argument, even when it's your own kids. Fortunately, they're all smart but it can be frustrating trying to get through to them in a timely manner.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (eDfFs)

175
Sounds like SOMEBODY wants to eet zee boogz!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (FnneF)

I want my bugz ice cold

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (IyPmt)

176 Under pressure to defend Kamala Harris' grocery price gouging plan, some Democratic lawmakers are delivering a quiet message to anxious allies...
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i.e., the press.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (krQz2)

177 Kamala's promises have no teeth.
Posted by: ...

Nice...

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (LbnIB)

178 This is compounded by a generation of teachers who basically stopped teaching US history around 1980 or so, claiming it was "too recent to be worth covering"... then kept doing that for 20+ years.
Posted by: somedood
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Part of that is due to even conservative teachers being leary of discussing contemporary events as opposed to those long ago. A good teacher can interweave current and past events by using past events to explain today. But, that is problematic given the diktats on curriculum that many school districts practice along with teach to the test.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (kW+z9)

179 An evil capitalist is somebody that wants to build a house in nature.

An environmentalist is somebody that already has a house out in nature.

Extrapolate to any subject the left has a hate on for..

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (17s+e)

180 102 Patrick Webb @RealPatrickWebb 2h
BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.
Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (c39uV)

Yay! This will get under Kamala's skin.

Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:17 PM (64Zez)

181 "And the people saying this live in a multi-million dollar house, have two new cars, take frequent overseas vacations, have "help" at home, and at most 1 kid...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (oZhjI)"

Most of my cohort here rent amazingly expensive shithole apartments in rapidly declining areas and blow several hundred dollars a week on takeout (pre-Covid) or Grubhub, a few hundred more on barhopping 5-7 days a week, and the rest on traveling around for the purpose of instagram whoring or attending shitty woke fan conventions.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:17 PM (vWeTL)

182 Come on xers, we're not for mass starvation, just targeted starvation of our political rivals, 1 joyful meal a day for our supporters, and banquets for our friends and family, that's totally not at all communism!

Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2024 02:17 PM (DxKYp)

183
There's a reason that hillbillies build stills. Goes back as far as the Whisky Rebellion. Whisky is a great medium of exchange, but the govt doesn't like it because it's difficult to tax.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (y9nCu)

184 Are Democrats gonna get Tulsi's family to write mean tweets about her?

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (4DWWO)

185 Sounds like SOMEBODY wants to eet zee boogz!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (FnneF)

Waddya bet she still eats coconuts, bananas, and drinks coffee?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (naKkV)

186 And the moment that the SALT cap passed, you heard nothing more about the argument that Red states were actually freeriding off the Blue states.

Years ago I was on a left trending forum and someone superimposed a fat map at the state level on the Bush-Kerry results. Ha ha they all laughed look at those fat Republican rednecks!

Then someone else broke it down by county AND race. And it was the blue voting black areas in those southern states that were all voting D. Now not only was it NOT funny to laugh at fat voters it was rayciss too!

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (oZhjI)

187 "BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.
Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:04 PM (c39uV)"

If this doesn't produce a flurry of extra cheesecake pics attached to internet discussion I'm going to be disappointed.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (vWeTL)

188 >>> 175
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I want my bugz ice cold
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2024 02:16 PM (IyPmt)

I want my boogz consumed by bluebell the hen and her coop-mates, who then produce delicious, nutritious EGGS.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (FnneF)

189 BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard

I bet Kyrsten Synema (sp?) will also join.
Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:09 PM (LbnIB)

yeah, i'm just focusing on the important parts...

i'll be in my bunk...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (v6XNT)

190 "Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event."

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So what?

She never carried an automatic weapon into battle like Tim Walz did!!!!

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (i7Q7S)

191 In a new book, Nicola Twilley says we need to rethink the impact refrigeration is having on the planet.

"You really don't need to have a tomato in December," Twilley says on this week's Zero podcast. "Just don't do it."
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (CWTWj)
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This sets a new benchmark in stupidity and ignorance.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (7fElN)

192 TRUUUMPPPRRRIIITTZZZZ!

Posted by: sen. john fetterman at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (c39uV)

193 They lie until they get enough power to do what they want, which they keep hidden from the public until it's time to strike.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

Kamala's aspirational goals, vibes and emanations for now, are only constrained by the current political moment. Remove those and they become policy and law.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (/VucX)

194 Always remember: when the overfed, dissipated swine Frank Luntz had a stroke, he didn't blame his lifestyle for it.

He blamed - you guessed it! - Donald Trump.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (0FoWg)

195 Don't worry!

Be joyful!

*Dems to LIVs

Posted by: Just Lily at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (yIX1W)

196 Wait, make it four. "The Wreck of the Hesperus."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (tT6L1)

Check out "Gunga Din!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (d9fT1)

197 Wait, make it four. "The Wreck of the Hesperus."
Posted by: blake
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I'm partial to Bobbie Burns myself along with Kipling, Longfellow, some Shelley, Shakespeare's sonnets, etc. To a Louse is simply hilarious and rhetorically true at the same time. Auld Lang Syne is another great one.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (kW+z9)

198 "The Trump campaign on Monday opposed the Harris campaign’s sudden attempt to change the September 10 debate rules on ABC News from muted to unmuted microphones." (Breitbart)

Of course - that'll give her the chance to do the "Excuse me...I'm speaking..." bit.

Posted by: MD_Mike at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (cJWvF)

199 blow several hundred dollars a week on takeout (pre-Covid) or Grubhub

This is one interesting way to identify your right v left leaning coworkers.

Lefties do not cook. Especially the women. And they will pay any amount of money to get takeout/eat out.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (oZhjI)

200 Yep I know a bunch of leftist LIVs making bank that tell me:

1) They are tapped out and need help from the government
2) The rich need to "pay their fair share" with MASSIVE tax increases

And the people saying this live in a multi-million dollar house, have two new cars, take frequent overseas vacations, have "help" at home, and at most 1 kid...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (oZhjI)
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And probably seven figures of debt, with five figures at very high interest.

The greatest error I see day to day is people conflating affluence and wealth. You can earn a lot of money and be broke as shit. Tons of people earn a lot but still live hand-to-mouth because they live at or beyond their means.

A high income doesn't mean you're rich. It's all in what you spend it on - and how much of it you spend. You might *look* rich and even *feel* rich, but you ain't actually rich and a disaster of some kind - "house needs a new roof" or "I got laid off" - will expose that very quickly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (HnUIn)

201 Some other "general, very lofty goals" are getting Republicans to vote Democrat. Of course, coercion is right behind the "lofty goals", so if you don't vote Democrat, you hang.

So much for their horseshit "pay no attention" statements.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (ze9bY)

202 BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard expected to endorse Donald Trump today at National Guard event.

that's not how you get off the no-fly list

Posted by: brak at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (25k9m)

203 >>> 185
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Waddya bet she still eats coconuts, bananas, and drinks coffee?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (naKkV)

And chocolate. *Lots* of chocolate, because she is Important and SMAHHHHHRRRT.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (FnneF)

204 "Jerking Off With Sandpaper Gloves"
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade

If that's not the name of a punk band, it should be

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (Ug3IJ)

205 @173 Blake, I have a scary intuition that "The Gods of the Copybook Headings " are about to show up

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (aYl1o)

206 200 A high income doesn't mean you're rich. It's all in what you spend it on - and how much of it you spend. You might *look* rich and even *feel* rich, but you ain't actually rich and a disaster of some kind - "house needs a new roof" or "I got laid off" - will expose that very quickly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (HnUIn)

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Our mortgage is maybe a quarter of what banks would give us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

207 "You really don't need to have a tomato in December," Twilley says on this week's Zero podcast. "Just don't do it."

Imagine telling Americans in 1984 that in 40 years one political party would be staking out the position that normal people just don't need fresh fruits and veggies.

"How exactly did the Soviets win the cold war?"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (oZhjI)

208 198 "The Trump campaign on Monday opposed the Harris campaign’s sudden attempt to change the September 10 debate rules on ABC News from muted to unmuted microphones." (Breitbart)

Of course - that'll give her the chance to do the "Excuse me...I'm speaking..." bit.
Posted by: MD_Mike at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (cJWvF)

Well, but, PDT is pretty good at holding his fire in debates, and his best shot is letting her speak.

Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (64Zez)

209 They lie until they get enough power to do what they want, which they keep hidden from the public until it's time to strike.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

Hmmm... the dims took their playbook from the muzzies?
That makes sense.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (+VpC3)

210 She never carried an automatic weapon into battle like Tim Walz did!!!!

A National Guard event, you say? Oh, there is going to be SO much trolling today.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (LbnIB)

211 A high income doesn't mean you're rich. It's all in what you spend it on - and how much of it you spend. You might *look* rich and even *feel* rich, but you ain't actually rich and a disaster of some kind - "house needs a new roof" or "I got laid off" - will expose that very quickly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Exactly. If you are worth $2 million, how much of that is liquid? If it's not half, you ain't as rich as you think you are.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (V26+p)

212 Harris wants the mics on so she can interrupt. Only reason.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (QfvaV)

213 "Thinking that because they don't have Jeff Bezos money that they're "the poor".
Posted by: XTC at August 26, 2024 02:15 PM (UnA8+)"

Lots of talk lately about how they're being taken advantage of by management, like they're a 1930's coal miner or something.

We got a sort of bumper crop bonus payout a few years running, where each payout exceeded my gross salary from the first 20 years of my working life combined.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (vWeTL)

214 Check out "Gunga Din!"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

As a kid, I used to read that poem aloud in a Cockney accent. Performed it for my HS Eng.-lit. class once.

Yes, I'm a born ham.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (v6JzV)

215 198 "The Trump campaign on Monday opposed the Harris campaign’s sudden attempt to change the September 10 debate rules on ABC News from muted to unmuted microphones." (Breitbart)

Of course - that'll give her the chance to do the "Excuse me...I'm speaking..." bit.
Posted by: MD_Mike at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (cJWvF)

Reminds me of a baseball coach I once had. Great guy, enjoyed playing on his team. Playing a neutral site game and not sure why this was the case, but their team decided to hit second so we got choice of dugout (apparently).

We were all set up in ours but when coach found this out, he immediately asked to switch. I asked him why and he said, "I don't know. Make them think it means something."

Think we lost anyway.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (KbCG3)

216 "Imagine telling Americans in 1984 that in 40 years one political party would be staking out the position that normal people just don't need..."

....a gas stove.

....girls to be in their own locker rooms without boys/men

....a car that runs on gasoline

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (i7Q7S)

217 A high income doesn't mean you're rich. It's all in what you spend it on - and how much of it you spend. You might *look* rich and even *feel* rich, but you ain't actually rich and a disaster of some kind - "house needs a new roof" or "I got laid off" - will expose that very quickly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (HnUIn)

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Our mortgage is maybe a quarter of what banks would give us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM

Same here the credit union said "you can afford this much mortgage", we said give us 1/3 of that amount. This also has the bonus that we are able to pay off a 30 year mortgage in 10 years by making extra payments every month.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (QNSds)

218 Our mortgage is maybe a quarter of what banks would give us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)
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This one blew my mind. When I started thinking about buying a house, I did some of those "how much house can you afford" calculators online. I knew what I could afford, but I was curious as to what the shills talking their book would tell me.

It was astounding. Most of them came back at 3x what I could actually afford. One came back at 4x.

I could qualify for the loan, yes, and I could pay it if *nothing* ever went wrong. But "I can pay for it" does *not* mean "I can afford it."

How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)

219 Exactly. If you are worth $2 million, how much of that is liquid? If it's not half, you ain't as rich as you think you are.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold &

Always makes me think of Luke in an early Modern Family episode when he is like "im not very liquid right now" and then he goes and gets a huge stack of cash frozen in an ice block out of the freezer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (CIS44)

220 >>> 212 Harris wants the mics on so she can interrupt. Only reason.
Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (QfvaV)

OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)

221 180
Yay! This will get under Kamala's skin.
Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:17 PM (64Zez)

I doubt it, I think it’s expected at this point. What we need is a fettermonster endorsement. That would be awesome. Won’t happen, but would be great.

Posted by: Piper at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (p4NUW)

222 Check out "Gunga Din!"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (d9fT1)

5.

I have now bookmarked "The Poetry Foundation."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (tT6L1)

223 The three greatest poets in the English language:

1 -- Milton
2-- Shakespeare
3 -- Kipling

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (v6JzV)

224 And the people saying this live in a multi-million dollar house, have two new cars, take frequent overseas vacations, have "help" at home, and at most 1 kid...
Posted by: 18-1
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Chances are they are in debt up to their eyeballs due to their conspicuous consumption as Veblen put it.

The Depression in the 30's wiped out a lot of that sort as a class and its repeat in the near future is likely to do the same. Lots of those big houses are likely to be carved up into apartments is my guess just like the 30's and 40's did to a lot of those big houses built before then.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (kW+z9)

225 The Unburdening Times are going to be lit.

Wait. I meant The Burning Times.

Posted by: Gaff at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (jPS2y)

226 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

227 "Our mortgage is maybe a quarter of what banks would give us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)"

Bank was shocked that we were looking for less than half of what we could (on paper) afford.

"This is one interesting way to identify your right v left leaning coworkers.

Lefties do not cook. Especially the women. And they will pay any amount of money to get takeout/eat out.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (oZhjI)"

They see it as a class thing, as unwilling as they are to admit to being snobs. Even the entry-level Cloud People get to drop 100+ bucks a day on lunch and dinner near the office.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:24 PM (vWeTL)

228 I guarantee you there is a deeper reach on this. Just like every other legislation and agency, the enforcement would be selective with the goal of intimidation. No more right leaving businesses or even neutral businesses when it comes to politics. This would be a broad brush push to require DEI using the enforcement of price controls (and essentially ruin) to anyone non-compliant. That doesn't even touch on the extortion of fundraising for elections. The Dem party can't raise money. They end up skirting the law to acquire funds. This would be using the "law" to guarantee funds.

Posted by: Orson at August 26, 2024 02:24 PM (dIske)

229 Used to be the dems had voters vote for candidates and a nominating convention would occur where they would assemble a platform of many planks that would clearly state their goals so an informed electorate could make a rational decision.

Lol. Thanks alot democrats.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (uBBbP)

230 The Unburdening Times are going to be lit.

Well Kamala's not burdened by what has been... She's changed all her positions.. Politically speaking of course

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (IyPmt)

231

OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August
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I think the rumors she wants an “I am speaking” sound bite desperately are accurate.

Posted by: Piper at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (p4NUW)

232 Yep I know a bunch of leftist LIVs making bank that tell me:

1) They are tapped out and need help from the government
2) The rich need to "pay their fair share" with MASSIVE tax increases

And the people saying this live in a multi-million dollar house, have two new cars, take frequent overseas vacations, have "help" at home, and at most 1 kid...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:13 PM (oZhjI)
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Probably high income but also heavy spending habits and debt. It doesn't matter how much you make if you spend more than you bring in. Sure, that can last for a while, but eventually the house of cards will fall.

Income is not wealth. Assets are wealth. A dollar safely invested is worth 5+ dollars in income. The only way to acquire assets is to divert income to buy them. But that reduces the availability of immediate spending and gratification. That's a bridge too far for many high-income earners.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (iFTx/)

233 How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)
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I think far too many how much house can you afford calculators dismiss the cost of utilities.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (tT6L1)

234 223 The three greatest poets in the English language:

1 -- Milton
2-- Shakespeare
3 -- Kipling

0.5 -- Muldoon!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (73voq)

235 "Jerking Off With Sandpaper Gloves"
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade

If that's not the name of a punk band, it should be
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (Ug3IJ)

Sorta like this?
https://youtu.be/xFvAmY3kkO0

Posted by: DEVO at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (Aqu9a)

236 How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)
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How many of those shills are themselves living a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck, lifestyle and thus *need* to get as many as possible to pay for their own fancy house?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (7fElN)

237 How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?
Posted by: Joe Mannix
======
A lot. Costs a lot for those seeking to maintain their social status and economic rectifications are especially harsh for those folks.

Inflationary times can allow some people to surf on the cresting wave for a time, but the smart ones break off before the wave crashes down on them.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (kW+z9)

238 Fuel prices are coming down. It's another Biden miracle.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (/U5Yz)

239 Income is not wealth. Assets are wealth

Not disagreeing but Fed Gov taxes you on income. Those Lefty LIVs *ARE* the rich they demand be taxed more.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (oZhjI)

240 Frank Luntz
@FrankLuntz
This might be why http://KamalaHarris.com doesn't have a single page of policy on it -- she can't even get Democratic lawmakers to support her proposals.
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Maybe they are just confused because their 5 Year Plan doesn't fit in a 4 year term.

Posted by: javems at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (8I4hW)

241 This sets a new benchmark in stupidity and ignorance.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 26, 2024 02:18 PM (7fElN)

It's malfeasance.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (4DWWO)

242 "225 The Unburdening Times are going to be lit.

Wait. I meant The Burning Times.
Posted by: Gaff at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (jPS2y)"

Hard times make strong men
Strong men make good times
Good times let commie skanks into office on their backs
Commie skanks unburden us from what was

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (vWeTL)

243 >>> 231

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I think the rumors she wants an "I am speaking" sound bite desperately are accurate.
Posted by: Piper at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (p4NUW)

I agree. "She persisted!" *pukes*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (FnneF)

244 Buying groceries might as well be eating out all the time. The food's better, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2024 02:27 PM (0FoWg)

245 As soon as they are in power they will, and open the Gulags

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2024 02:27 PM (ZrWog)

246 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)
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No extra ounces on her. And what there is, is well distributed.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2024 02:27 PM (ze9bY)

247 if gabbard is going to endorse trump, maybe she should cry like that puts kinzigger. that really tugged at my heart strings and woodwinds

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 26, 2024 02:27 PM (CWTWj)

248 The three greatest poets in the English language:

1 -- Milton
2-- Shakespeare
3 -- Kipling
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (v6JzV)

Robert W. Service is right up there, too. And he made a very good living selling his books of poetry, too. People really did buy them. And he was anti-Communist. Check out "The Ballad of Lenin's Tomb".

short link: allpoetry.com/The-Ballad-Of-Lenin's-Tomb

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:27 PM (naKkV)

249 The three greatest poets in the English language:

1 -- Milton
2-- Shakespeare
3 -- Kipling

You forgot the Man from Nantucket

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:27 PM (xCA6C)

250 In other words, failure theatre. Republicans ought to be very familiar with that tactic.

Posted by: Mightyclaw at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (gUttb)

251 I remember crunching the numbers and realizing that with a downpayment, the most I could afford on a house was something like $300K.

Went to get pre-approved.

$450K was what some stupid bank would give me.

Yeah, I didn't fall for that bait.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (KbCG3)

252 Fuel prices are coming down. It's another Biden miracle.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

But, for how long?
Libya froze all oil production and shipping.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (+VpC3)

253 "Imagine telling Americans in 1984 that in 40 years one political party would be staking out the position that normal people just don't need..."

....a gas stove.

....girls to be in their own locker rooms without boys/men

....a car that runs on gasoline

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (i7Q7S)

....to let your children live long enough to draw their first breath.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (yIX1W)

254 Kamala is looking for her "I'm speaking" moment?

I can see it now, Kamala interrupts PDT and when he tries to point this out, we get the "I'm speaking" sound bite.

Of course, the mods will let it slide.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (tT6L1)

255 If she pulls the "I am speaking" card, Trump will just say "go ahead, go ahead, go ahead".

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (4DWWO)

256 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

Lean and built for speed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2024 02:28 PM (Aqu9a)

257 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz

You're about 1/2" of black fabric from getting banned.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (xCA6C)

258 Saw a Harris-Walz yard sign last week
HARRIS/WALZ
underneath
Obviously (in italics)

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (JrYM1)

259 "When The Widow Gives The Party" you can't refuse the card.

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (c39uV)

260 I have a scary intuition that "The Gods of the Copybook Headings " are about to show up
Posted by: Smell the Glove

It will but remember Aesop's fable about the Ant and the Grasshopper. An ant prepares for both good and bad times--grasshoppers don't. One is more likely to survive than the other and it ain't the grasshopper.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (kW+z9)

261 233 How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)
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I think far too many how much house can you afford calculators dismiss the cost of utilities.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (tT6L1)

Go listen to Tim Dillon. Comedian now but used to work at a place selling sub-prime mortgages. He has things to say.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (KbCG3)

262 House Democrats Tell Their Media Allies to Put Out the Word: Don't Worry About Kamala's Communist Grocery-Price-Fixing Scheme, We'll Never Go Full Communist
______________

1917: Vladimir Lenin assures Russia that he'll never go full communist

1926: Josef Stalin assures the USSR that he'll never terrorize the population

1945: Kim Jong Il assures North Korea that he'll be sensible, never start any wars, and will make life better

1959: Fidel Castro assures Cuba and the world that he is no communist

1975: Pol Pot assures Cambodia that life will soon be much better (albeit shorter)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (YqDXo)

263 "The Trump campaign on Monday opposed the Harris campaign’s sudden attempt to change the September 10 debate rules on ABC News from muted to unmuted microphones." (Breitbart)

Of course - that'll give her the chance to do the "Excuse me...I'm speaking..." bit.
Posted by: MD_Mike at August 26, 2024 02:19 PM (cJWvF)

Well, but, PDT is pretty good at holding his fire in debates, and his best shot is letting her speak.
Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (64Zez)

i expect she'll interrupt him and try to use this line when she's speaking on him time...

and the "moderator" will defend her interruption...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (v6XNT)

264 They lie until they get enough power to do what they want, which they keep hidden from the public until it's time to strike.

They need toe very careful. The millions who won't like it are very likely to strike back.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (W/lyH)

265 I've always enjoyed a little Trollope!

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (c39uV)

266 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

It's not to impress her favorite 11th grade English teacher from last year who told her his favorite book is "A Clockwork Orange"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (dTTBf)

267 They see it as a class thing, as unwilling as they are to admit to being snobs. Even the entry-level Cloud People get to drop 100+ bucks a day on lunch and dinner near the office.
Posted by: somedood

One person I do envy? My cousin. He knew what he wanted to be when he grew up. He went to culinary school and became a chef. At 61, I'm just beginning to enjoy cooking (more than just the everyday food) and wished I done it sooner.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (V26+p)

268 around april 2020 during all the lock downs, i was standing in line to get into a supermarket and thought that that was good practice for when sanders became president. i guess kamaala has her road laid out.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (CWTWj)

269 1995: Bill Clinton assures Monica he won't do that thing in her mouth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

270 Btw, not for nothing but I have my four-year-old using the word "kerfuffle."

And he's using it properly.

I am beaming with pride.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (KbCG3)

271 Kamala: "I'm speaking!"

Trump: "I don't care. You're wrong."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (J2vNu)

272 Kamala is looking for her "I'm speaking" moment?

Yup. There was also a report that Trump declined to get a National Intelligence briefing because he figured they'd leak it and blame him. There is no length to which they will not go to keep power.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (xCA6C)

273 The media is mirr pro Democrat than most Democrats.
I suppose that's an exaggeration.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at August 26, 2024 02:31 PM (FfSAJ)

274 So many commies, so few helicopters.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 26, 2024 02:31 PM (LaNzR)

275 Only one of those was true fidel and the company bought it

Yes positions ...phrasing

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 26, 2024 02:31 PM (PXvVL)

276 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She looks like a young Jennifer Aniston.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 02:31 PM (/U5Yz)

277 Hard times make strong men
Strong men make good times
Good times let commie skanks into office on their backs
Commie skanks unburden us from what was
Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:26 PM (vWeTL)

We unburden ourselves from the commie skank.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:32 PM (W/lyH)

278 Fed Gov taxes you on income.
Posted by: 18-1

The 'Wealth Tax' on unrealized income is their plan.
If you have assets you will be taxed on them until the friends-of-the-feds own everything.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:32 PM (+VpC3)

279
This is compounded by a generation of teachers who basically stopped teaching US history around 1980 or so, claiming it was "too recent to be worth covering"... then kept doing that for 20+ years.
Posted by: somedood
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Moreover 'Civics' was ditched completely, in favor of 'Sociology'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (XeU6L)

280 Harris wants the mics on so she can interrupt. Only reason.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2024 02:21 PM (QfvaV)
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Harris interrupts Trump.

Trump: "I'd like to finish my point"

Harris: "I'm speaking here!"

"Moderator": "Mr. Trump, would you please let Vice President Harris finish?"

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (krQz2)

281 We unburden ourselves from the commie skank.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:32 PM (W/lyH)
++++
Not so far...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (HnUIn)

282 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She looks like a young Jennifer Aniston.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 02:31 PM (/U5Yz)
***

She looks a lot like the roommate of Granddaughter of Diogenes #1.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (W/lyH)

283 233 How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?

which has caused home builders to build only those type of houses, the HGTV ready "mcmansion" built with illegal labor and shoddy construction but with all the latest trendy finishes that look good in those HDR zillow pics

good luck finding a well built "starter home"

Posted by: brak at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (25k9m)

284 Kamala: I'm speaking!

Trump: No, you're emitting a series of random sounds. That's not the same thing.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (xCA6C)

285 278 Fed Gov taxes you on income.
Posted by: 18-1

The 'Wealth Tax' on unrealized income is their plan.
If you have assets you will be taxed on them until the friends-of-the-feds own everything.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:32 PM (+VpC3)

"Not taxing unrealized capital gains has cost our government billions--possibly trillions! We must correct this at once by implementing these taxes, as well as retroactive taxes so as to claw back what the American taxpayer has gotten away with." - The true lib fantasy

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (KbCG3)

286 I think that Commie La is just going to make demand after demand and then finally just say she won't debate with a fan of Nazis or something like that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (dTTBf)

287 Not so far...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (HnUIn)

True, but it all has the feel of inevitability.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (W/lyH)

288 Moreover 'Civics' was ditched completely, in favor of 'Sociology'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

One thing I'll give Richrd Dreyfus credit for is that he was calling for the restoration of Civics to the school curriculum.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (v6JzV)

289 How many people do these shills guide into a high-stress, paycheck-to-paycheck life and even eventual bankruptcy?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)
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I think far too many how much house can you afford calculators dismiss the cost of utilities.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (tT6L1)

Go listen to Tim Dillon. Comedian now but used to work at a place selling sub-prime mortgages. He has things to say.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:29 PM (KbCG3)
___

People don't listen even to people they should listen to. 3x in the last year younger family friends were looking for their first houses/apartments. Rentals. I was shocked at how high their target rents were. I knew about what their income was. It seemed obvious they needed to be looking at something significantly cheaper. They didn't listen to me and signed for those leases.

Guess what happened? Two out of three ended up in disputes with the LL because they couldn't afford the rent. The third is now being subsidized by Daddy.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (iFTx/)

290 When the cackling starts Trump's reaction will be lit

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (ze9bY)

291 which has caused home builders to build only those type of houses, the HGTV ready "mcmansion" built with illegal labor and shoddy construction but with all the latest trendy finishes that look good in those HDR zillow pics

good luck finding a well built "starter home"
Posted by: brak at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (25k9m)
++++
It'll be bad when some of the contemporary Levit Towns turn into slums. They're *really* not built for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (HnUIn)

292 Yup. There was also a report that Trump declined to get a National Intelligence briefing because he figured they'd leak it and blame him. There is no length to which they will not go to keep power.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM

And that's an excellent reason to not get a briefing from the deep state. He knows they will leak it and blame it on him and they will feed him disinfo as well.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (QNSds)

293 Wow, we just had the first serious thunderstorm in what feels like months here in Nova, and there's another, bigger one coming at 4. I love it.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (xCA6C)

294 Cheryl Hines is taking a lot of crap from progs on X.

Some complain that they can no longer watch Curb Your Enthusiasm.

It's illustrative of the fact that progs want *all* and every bit of power to go their way.

She couldn't stop her husband from endorsing Trump, so she's poopy.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (krQz2)

295 Economic historians reviewing the records of the dead OPM and its British counterpart have come to the conclusion that it actually hurt the war effort via the domestic economy more than it helped.

Posted by: whig
-----------------
I'm not saying you are wrong, only that your argument is unconvincing.
My question is whether it was valuable for cohesiveness. I agree that long run it not only hurt their economy but it got the British accustomed to the whip which led to even more problems.

I am not sure this is something that can be revealed by looking at numbers though. Another point is that I always viewed it as just another tax - gov. makes butter unavailable to the public so they can buy it up for the troops at a lower price. This taxes producers and those who buy on the black market at a higher price. The goal is not to stop people from eating butter, but to reduce costs for gov. All taxes harm the economy (more or less) so saying it caused harm is not really informative.

Posted by: Gentlemen, whatever at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (EboyK)

296 Nurse,

Get The Kitchen Ecosystem by Eugenia Bone. I think you'll find it interesting

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (dDSBl)

297 I was shocked at how high their target rents were. I knew about what their income was. It seemed obvious they needed to be looking at something significantly cheaper. They didn't listen to me and signed for those leases.

Guess what happened? Two out of three ended up in disputes with the LL because they couldn't afford the rent. The third is now being subsidized by Daddy.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (iFTx/)

Dumb landlords. Last thing you want is to get into litigation with a deadbeat tenant.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (KbCG3)

298
The 'Wealth Tax' on unrealized income is their plan.
If you have assets you will be taxed on them until the friends-of-the-feds own everything.
Posted by: AZ
--------

In the book, 'The Forsyte Saga', Soames Forsyte makes the comment, 'If they find a way to tax capital, we are done for'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (XeU6L)

299 She looks a lot like the roommate of Granddaughter of Diogenes #1.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (W/lyH)

And hopefully granddaughter's roomate will have the sense not to greet you dressed like that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (dTTBf)

300 There's a funny line in Malcolm Muggeridge's autobiography, in which (during his short-lived pro-Soviet phase) he is touring a school and, in one classroom of young children, the teacher asks, "Now, class, today is the 15th anniversary of what event?"

A small boy volunteers, "The Five-Year Plan?"

Posted by: Paco at August 26, 2024 02:36 PM (njExo)

301 Hillary could at times control her cackle, Kamala is incapable of controlling hers. She sounds like a Hyena choking on a fur ball. All. The. Time.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 02:36 PM (/U5Yz)

302 294 Cheryl Hines is taking a lot of crap from progs on X.

Some complain that they can no longer watch Curb Your Enthusiasm.

It's illustrative of the fact that progs want *all* and every bit of power to go their way.

She couldn't stop her husband from endorsing Trump, so she's poopy.
Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (krQz2)

========

My only hope is that soft-progressives, those who don't really think of politics as their religion just as some sort of cultural marker on their identity, see this incident and wonder why such vitriol is being sent her way over something so small.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

303 "Not taxing unrealized capital gains has cost our government billions--possibly trillions! We must correct this at once by implementing these taxes, as well as retroactive taxes so as to claw back what the American taxpayer has gotten away with." - The true lib fantasy

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM

I can imagine they want to tax all of those 401k's sitting around with almost 2 trillion dollars in them just sitting there doing nothing.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:36 PM (QNSds)

304 Democrats pre-2024 Election: Price control legislation is a non-starter.

Democrats post-2024 Election "Winning" White House and Congress: We've evolved on price control legislation.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 26, 2024 02:37 PM (CVIL7)

305 This slightly chilly and quite exposed blonde is wearing orange because she doesn't like or support communists:
http://tiny.cc/lbsjzz

Evgeniia Soloveva

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2024 02:37 PM (Odg76)

306 Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 22h
Merrick Garland, flanked by Obama henchman and key Russia collusion architect Lisa Monaco, cites growing J6 caseload to warn Americans not to "interfere" in the certification of the 2024 election. (h/t @wendyp4545)

First, the transfer of power happens on January 20 not January 6. (And DOJ let off the hook hundreds of 2017 inaugural rioters.)

Second, there is no law guaranteeing the "peaceful transfer of power." Which is why the Constitution provides several weeks between election day and inauguration day with both a state and congressional certification process and opportunities to contest the results.

Third, as he brags about the nearly 1,500 J6ers arrested and charged so far for January 6--including at least seven last week during the DNC--most face misdemeanors.

Fourth, SCOTUS overturned how this thuggish DOJ used 1512c2 and his prosecutors in most cases are now sheepishly dismissing the count. And we are still awaiting a long delayed opinion by DC appellate court on DOJ's most common misdemeanor on Jan 6 cases.

Every time I see Lisa Monaco I fume that 48 Republican senators confirmed her appointment as deputy AG.

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:37 PM (c39uV)

307 Income is not wealth. Assets are wealth. A dollar safely invested is worth 5+ dollars in income. The only way to acquire assets is to divert income to buy them. But that reduces the availability of immediate spending and gratification. That's a bridge too far for many high-income earners.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:25 PM (iFTx/)
______________

THIS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

308 Dumb landlords. Last thing you want is to get into litigation with a deadbeat tenant.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (KbCG3)
++++
I am sure they had the cash needed to sign and the credit report came back okay. That means all is well.

This was a benefit of the "old way" of community banking as opposed to modern integrated finance: the lender (or landlord or whatever) did a lot more homework, would check references, etc. or even actually knew you or at least your reputation.

Now so much of it is outsourced, integrated and consolidated that this isn't possible. The upside of it is higher efficiency and lower costs to transact. The downside is the loss of context. The credit report says what it says, and you make your decision.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (HnUIn)

309 304 Democrats pre-2024 Election: Price control legislation is a non-starter.

Democrats post-2024 Election "Winning" White House and Congress: We've evolved on price control legislation.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 26, 2024 02:37 PM (CVIL7)

=======

Nah.

It'll be an omnibus spending package that must pass or else the grannies who work at the Pentagon will have to sell apple pies to make their pensions, inside of which will be spending for corporate handouts.

There is no actual policy anymore at the federal level. There is only an increasing level of graft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (GBKbO)

310 which has caused home builders to build only those type of houses, the HGTV ready "mcmansion" built with illegal labor and shoddy construction but with all the latest trendy finishes that look good in those HDR zillow pics

good luck finding a well built "starter home"

Posted by: brak

===

I've never heard it put that way, but yeah that matches what I'm seeing.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (LPomY)

311 from historytoday.com :

Castro's final stop on the caravana was Camp Columbia. His speech there was more sombre than triumphant. There were many challenges, but social democracy would prosper. Elections would be held. 'It is not fair that the cult of personality and ambition endanger the destiny of the revolution' he said. 'We cannot become dictators.'

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (CWTWj)

312 293 Wow, we just had the first serious thunderstorm in what feels like months here in Nova, and there's another, bigger one coming at 4. I love it.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (xCA6C)

Crazy, right? Looks like the next cell is rolling in on Hagerstown.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (LxER7)

313 who told her his favorite book is "A Clockwork Orange"?

Saved by the "L".

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (cMh4F)

314 Unrealized cap gains - paid for house.

So, do the feds go after gramma and grandpa before they kick the bucket so the kids cannot inherit?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (tT6L1)

315 I was shocked at how high their target rents were. I knew about what their income was. It seemed obvious they needed to be looking at something significantly cheaper. They didn't listen to me and signed for those leases.

Guess what happened? Two out of three ended up in disputes with the LL because they couldn't afford the rent. The third is now being subsidized by Daddy.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (iFTx/)

Dumb landlords. Last thing you want is to get into litigation with a deadbeat tenant.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (KbCG3
_______

Landlords eventually let them off the hook. They could have made it ugly -- the leases had co-signers on the hook -- but decided to let them leave and get better tenants. I don't think either of these rentals lasted 4 months before the dumb tenants realized they couldn't afford the rent.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (iFTx/)

316 Just got here. Why the Montana bashing. PDT took MT in 2020. And no, I'll never be able to explain Tester accept for military vets loving him and we have a fair number of them.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 26, 2024 02:39 PM (2NHgQ)

317 roommate of Granddaughter of Diogenes #1.
Posted by: Diogenes

Granddaughter must be older than I thought... Since you are Diogenes #2?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:39 PM (+VpC3)

318 Know why Harris crossed the road?
To tax a chicken all the way to Hell.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 26, 2024 02:39 PM (VVvwK)

319 And that's an excellent reason to not get a briefing from the deep state. He knows they will leak it and blame it on him and they will feed him disinfo as well.

All these heads of state coming to visit Trump and not Biden... He's being briefed plenty, and he's getting the real stuff.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (HYrf+)

320 Trump ! Tulsi should be in charge of the Veterans Administration!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (4XwPj)

321 "i expect she'll interrupt him and try to use this line when she's speaking on him time..."

maybe she has been watching the old Joe Biden VP debate videos? Bellicose and constant interrupting.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (Cus5s)

322 I thought Byron York did a good summary of the debate guff.

1. Trump said that the debates with Harris would have be be renegotiated.
2. The DNC accused him of "being scared".
3. Trump said, fine. Rules as negotiated.
4. Harris camp said, except for live mics.
5. Now, because Trump wants the original terms, as not renegotiated, he's "scared" again.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (krQz2)

323 She looks a lot like the roommate of Granddaughter of Diogenes #1.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:33 PM (W/lyH)

And hopefully granddaughter's roomate will have the sense not to greet you dressed like that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (dTTBf)
***

At least while Mrs D is around anyway.
Actually she's very nice girl.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (W/lyH)

324 “How exactly did the Soviets win the cold war?"
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (oZhjI)”

Remember the very last scene in Animal Farm - where the pigs running the Animal Farm meet the men running the other farms, and they all look exactly the same.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (gBVkZ)

325 316 Just got here. Why the Montana bashing. PDT took MT in 2020. And no, I'll never be able to explain Tester accept for military vets loving him and we have a fair number of them.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 26, 2024 02:39 PM (2NHgQ)

=======

It's Tester.

And Bozeman.

But mostly Tester. If Montanans are easily tricked by commercials with a Chuck Schumer rubber stamp holding a gun, then Montanans in general deserve some mockery.

Just like South Carolinians and Graham, Texans and Cornyn, and Arizonians and McCain (gonna take a while to live that one down).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

326 I am beaming with pride.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM (KbCG3)

I taught the brats the lyrics to "Beat On The Brat," and "Frigging In The Rigging," with the hope that they would sing it in school.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (d9fT1)

327 "Not taxing unrealized capital gains has cost our government billions--possibly trillions! We must correct this at once by implementing these taxes, as well as retroactive taxes so as to claw back what the American taxpayer has gotten away with." - The true lib fantasy

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM

I can imagine they want to tax all of those 401k's sitting around with almost 2 trillion dollars in them just sitting there doing nothing.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:36 PM (QNSds)
_____________

401k's just sitting around, being wasted on the people who earned them, when we (Democrats) could do so much [damage -ed.] with them.

I also love the Dems railing against billionaires. You know, the billionaires who lavishly support the Dems.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:41 PM (YqDXo)

328 roommate of Granddaughter of Diogenes #1.
Posted by: Diogenes

Granddaughter must be older than I thought... Since you are Diogenes #2?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:39 PM (+VpC3)
***

Ahh...good point.
I was kinda all excited there for a second.
I meant to say Granddaughter #1 of Diogenes.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:41 PM (W/lyH)

329 Bader brewing.com. In Vancouver WA and has homebrew supplies

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 26, 2024 02:41 PM (dDSBl)

330 220 OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)

Tell her to calm her ... what?

Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:41 PM (64Zez)

331 I taught the brats the lyrics to "Beat On The Brat," and "Frigging In The Rigging," with the hope that they would sing it in school.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 26, 2024 02:40 PM (d9fT1)
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I think Mis Hum defines those as "tax deductions" not brats.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 26, 2024 02:42 PM (tT6L1)

332 From Insty:

@JackPosobiec

BREAKING: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden skip Arlington Memorial Ceremony for the 13 troopers who died in Afghanistan on the 3rd anniversary

Only 1 former president showed up

His name is Donald Trump

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:42 PM (0CU3H)

333 Harris probably wants to accuse Trump of interrupting and mansplaining.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (FfSAJ)

334 220 OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)
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Thereby guaranteeing every female vote in America for Harris

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (ze9bY)

335 "'ll never be able to explain Tester accept for military vets loving him "

============

Would be nice if those vets understood how badly the party that Tester caucuses with hates them.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (i7Q7S)

336 I am not sure this is something that can be revealed by looking at numbers though. Another point is that I always viewed it as just another tax - gov. makes butter unavailable to the public so they can buy it up for the troops at a lower price. This taxes producers and those who buy on the black market at a higher price. The goal is not to stop people from eating butter, but to reduce costs for gov. All taxes harm the economy (more or less) so saying it caused harm is not really informative.
Posted by: Gentlemen
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Led to massive distortions in investments and allocation of goods while black marketing undermined cohesiveness if you read accounts of ordinary lives during that time.

Basically both parties in charge during WWII got rude shocks post war. The GOP seized Congress in the US from 46-48 and the continuing inflationary spike from excessive catering to labor unions, severe housing and durable goods shortages, and massive US debt from WWII caused Truman not to try to run in 1952. In UK, they went to Labor postwar for goodies for much of the same reasons and soon regretted it because Labor had no goodies really to give them. Even the NHS was very spartan at first.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (kW+z9)

337 Tulsi officially endorsed Trump.

Posted by: Piper at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (p4NUW)

338 They have planted seed pods in montana

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (PXvVL)

339 OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)
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LOL. If he did that, it could guarantee a loss. But it would be funny.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (HnUIn)

340 "I was shocked at how high their target rents were. I knew about what their income was. It seemed obvious they needed to be looking at something significantly cheaper. They didn't listen to me and signed for those leases.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:34 PM (iFTx/)"

Couple of things going on here. At some level they understand where they don't want to live, and who they don't want to live near. But - they can't afford it. The younger crowd has an unrealistic expectation for standards of living vs. their parents. Not just their parents' current standard of living, but even what they enjoyed when they were young, as wages have completely gone to shit since the early 70's and the "make up the difference with housing bubbles" scam has a limited lifespan.

The simple fact of the matter is they can only afford to live around what many of them have voted for. The only cheaper housing is the legit ghetto. They're basically getting priced out of civilized neighborhoods.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (vWeTL)

341 “How exactly did the Soviets win the cold war?"
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2024 02:20 PM (oZhjI)”
______________

It's like the final scene of so many post-apocalyptic nuclear war scenarios in movies: we paste the Soviets, but they get off a final nuclear salvo that vaporizes us.

The same thing happened in Cold War propaganda. We won, but the Soviets had already planted the seeds of rot here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (YqDXo)

342 OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)

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"Cool your tits, honey!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (T1jzx)

343 292 Yup. There was also a report that Trump declined to get a National Intelligence briefing because he figured they'd leak it and blame him. There is no length to which they will not go to keep power.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 26, 2024 02:30 PM

And that's an excellent reason to not get a briefing from the deep state. He knows they will leak it and blame it on him and they will feed him disinfo as well.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:35 PM (QNSds)

To those that may think that Trump doesn't learn from his mistakes, I present this as Exhibit #1 that this is not the case.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (0CU3H)

344 OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)
---------------
Thereby guaranteeing every female vote in America for Harris
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Not my wife's. She's a misogynist, and proud of it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (v6JzV)

345 @JackPosobiec

BREAKING: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden skip Arlington Memorial Ceremony for the 13 troopers who died in Afghanistan on the 3rd anniversary

Only 1 former president showed up

His name is Donald Trump
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:42 PM (0CU3H)
***

And then promptly gets accused of politicizing it.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

346 Speaker Johnson’s Dire Warning on Harris: ‘The Only Person Our Adversaries Fear Less Than Biden’

Honestly Mike I fear you and the rest of your GOPe cocksuckers more than I fear our 'Adversaries .'

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (/U5Yz)

347 They made the same promises about the income tax. My 14 year old son had to pay income taxes this year.

Posted by: Jane at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (bXvrr)

348 A "wealth tax" would require a constitutional amendment. The government would be taking property without compensation. Just like the income tax required the 16th amendment, so would a wealth tax. Of course the commies would just say f**k constitution

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (aYl1o)

349 "Cool your tits, honey!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (T1jzx)

He needs to throw her a dildo-shaped pacifier.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (naKkV)

350 Not my wife's. She's a misogynist, and proud of it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (v6JzV)

Ditto. I'd vote harder for Trump if he did that, laughing all the way.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (k9OZB)

351 Tulsi should be in charge of the Veterans Administration!

But first ...

Posted by: mel gibson's id at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (CzMNg)

352 At some level they understand where they don't want to live, and who they don't want to live near.
_________________

Rayciss! Savor the diversity, the vibrancy of living near the ghetto.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (YqDXo)

353 Landlords eventually let them off the hook. They could have made it ugly -- the leases had co-signers on the hook -- but decided to let them leave and get better tenants. I don't think either of these rentals lasted 4 months before the dumb tenants realized they couldn't afford the rent.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Man, if the landlord capitulated less than halfway through the lease despite having a co-signer (which explains a part of why the landlord agreed to contract), the paperwork, time and stress involved must be *totally* not worth it if the landlord thinks he can get a new occupant into the unit quickly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (HnUIn)

354 345 And then promptly gets accused of politicizing it.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

=======

Everything a politician does from getting up in the morning to going to bed at night is inherently political.

Of course it is.

Trump going to the ceremony was political. Kamala not going to the ceremony was political.

This is like complaining about people making education political when it's publicly funding. No fucking shit, it's political. It's part of politics.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 26, 2024 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

355 @306

>>Every time I see Lisa Monaco I fume that 48 Republican senators confirmed her appointment as deputy AG.

I can't wait till Trump nominates Bobby Kennedy for CIA Director.

It's going to be a laugh riot.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2024 02:46 PM (XV/Pl)

356 “There’s plenty of money in the country, it’s just in the wrong hands.” - Bill de Blasio
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And there you have it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2024 02:46 PM (XeU6L)

357 How come "fact checkers" haven't said anything about whether or not a nation of stores with a 1-3% profit margin are "gouging" the American consumer?

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (krQz2)

358 OrangeManBad can politely tell her to stop interrupting him, then when she throws a fit, tell her to calm down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 26, 2024 02:23 PM (FnneF)
---------------
Thereby guaranteeing every female vote in America for Harris
Posted by: Huck Follywood
______________

If Trump brings up Willie Brown I will die of ecstasy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (YqDXo)

359 "I can imagine they want to tax all of those 401k's sitting around with almost 2 trillion dollars in them just sitting there doing nothing.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:36 PM (QNSds)"

One of the faster ways to redpill someone under 40 or so is to explain how their SS taxes would fare in just about any index fund vs the stupid bullshit the government does with it.

Not a dime in 401K's, don't give a shit about employer matching. If I can't throw it in a suitcase and take it with me it's not all that useful.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (vWeTL)

360 Basically both parties in charge during WWII got rude shocks post war. The GOP seized Congress in the US from 46-48 and the continuing inflationary spike from excessive catering to labor unions, severe housing and durable goods shortages, and massive US debt from WWII caused Truman not to try to run in 1952.
*********************************************

Truman's decision in 1952 not to run for what would effectively have been a third term might not have been entirely unrelated to an ongoing war, which happened to be the least popular in American history. As a consequence of which, Truman himself had become deeply unpopular.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (HRai7)

361 so, the only position she has floated is being spun as unserious posturing by her allies because it is too insane to take seriously. Thank you for the clarification.

Posted by: SamIam at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (oasF3)

362 They made the same promises about the income tax. My 14 year old son had to pay income taxes this year.

Posted by: Jane at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM

I got a job as a stock boy at woolworths in 1974. When you combine all of the taxes that I had to pay the government got more of my $$$ than I did.

Federal income tax, social security, county tax and city tax. That $2.00 an hour didn't go very far after they got their claws on it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (QNSds)

363 BREAKING: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden skip Arlington Memorial Ceremony for the 13 troopers who died in Afghanistan on the 3rd anniversary

--

If only Beyonce or Taylor Swift was there...

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (N2zvp)

364 If Trump brings up Willie Brown I will die of ecstasy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (YqDXo)

That's slut shaming...I mean, I am all for it but most women would be pissed.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (ZtyUu)

365 How come "fact checkers" haven't said anything about whether or not a nation of stores with a 1-3% profit margin are "gouging" the American consumer?
Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:47 PM (krQz2)
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Because it has the potential to raise difficult questions about relative return on capital vs. the "risk-free rate" of buying Treasury bonds to finance the profligate spending that fuels inflation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (HnUIn)

366 Not my wife's. She's a misogynist, and proud of it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (v6JzV)

Why would she be proud of being a misogynist, rather than
just being a person who doesn't like Kamala or leftist women, or that's what you meant?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (dTTBf)

367 "348 A "wealth tax" would require a constitutional amendment. The government would be taking property without compensation. Just like the income tax required the 16th amendment, so would a wealth tax. Of course the commies would just say f**k constitution
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (aYl1o)"

With how civil forfeiture is going, and how eminent domain went, I don't believe any such amendment is necessary. They'll just do as they please.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (vWeTL)

368 Not my wife's. She's a misogynist, and proud of it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
#metoo!

And I would laugh my ass off if he said that.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (4XwPj)

369 345 @JackPosobiec

BREAKING: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden skip Arlington Memorial Ceremony for the 13 troopers who died in Afghanistan on the 3rd anniversary

Only 1 former president showed up

His name is Donald Trump
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:42 PM (0CU3H)
***

And then promptly gets accused of politicizing it.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

Posobiec was kind. He didn't include Clinton, Obama or W, either. Jimmah is, of course, otherwise occupied.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (0CU3H)

370 To those that may think that Trump doesn't learn from his mistakes, I present this as Exhibit #1 that this is not the case.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (0CU3H)

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Before JD, his Campaign Motto should have been:

Trump/Mulder 2024 -- TRUST NO ONE!

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (T1jzx)

371
I was kinda all excited there for a second.

Posted by: Diogenes

In your defense, there was a really good reason for your excitement... actually 2 reasons, the pic, and the roommate!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (+VpC3)

372 If only Beyonce or Taylor Swift was there...

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 26, 2024 02:48 PM (N2zvp)

Harris couldn't find some singer to twerk at Arlington?

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (ZtyUu)

373 @343

>>To those that may think that Trump doesn't learn from his mistakes, I present this as Exhibit #1 that this is not the case.

There is also an ongoing an active Counter Intelligence Investigation open against Trump which means the IC/LE can spy on him and his associates or anyone he or they talk to.

He should be instructing everyone in his orbit not to talk to anyone, especially gadfly Russian ambassadors.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (XV/Pl)

374 Why is this race even close? This is what scares me about our citizens. You can’t be this time and remain viable.

Posted by: Piper at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (p4NUW)

375 Honestly, reverting HI and AK to territory status would likely be a good thing in the House and Senate. Making a rule that Rhode Island is not a state would be a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (FmapG)

376 nood.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (QNSds)

377 The 'Wealth Tax' on unrealized income is their plan.
If you have assets you will be taxed on them until the friends-of-the-feds own everything.
Posted by: AZ

And when assets have to be sold to pay the taxes on the assets' unrealized income, they will be fire sales, and the prices will plummet.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (qUkBO)

378 332 From Insty:

@JackPosobiec

BREAKING: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden skip Arlington Memorial Ceremony for the 13 troopers who died in Afghanistan on the 3rd anniversary

Only 1 former president showed up

His name is Donald Trump
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2024 02:42 PM (0CU3H)

THAT'S MY PRESIDENT!

Posted by: m at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (64Zez)

379 Landlords eventually let them off the hook. They could have made it ugly -- the leases had co-signers on the hook -- but decided to let them leave and get better tenants. I don't think either of these rentals lasted 4 months before the dumb tenants realized they couldn't afford the rent.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Man, if the landlord capitulated less than halfway through the lease despite having a co-signer (which explains a part of why the landlord agreed to contract), the paperwork, time and stress involved must be *totally* not worth it if the landlord thinks he can get a new occupant into the unit quickly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (HnUIn)
______

LL were worried the tenant would just say "fuck you" and stop paying rent in total. Very hard to get rid of deadbeat tenants. This is blue-state NJ. Sure, the LL could chase down and even sue the co-signers, but that's a long process. So better to let sleeping dogs lie and just find a new tenant.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (iFTx/)

380 They have planted seed pods in montana

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (PXvVL)
______________

Universities are the planting sites, invariably.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

381 There’s plenty of money in the country, it’s just in the wrong hands.”

=================

I actually agree. Our "CEO class" is a bunch of greedy morons with the morality of reptiles. And, people like the Obama's, the Clinton's, Zuckerburg, Bill Gates, and everyone in Hollywood have way too much money.

Posted by: Jay in PA at August 26, 2024 02:50 PM (i7Q7S)

382 “There’s plenty of money in the country, it’s just in the wrong hands.” - Bill de Blasio
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And there you have it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2024 02:46 PM (XeU6L)
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And when we elect All-Your-IP-Are-Belong-to-Us for President, they'll be shut out from even less.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2024 02:50 PM (krQz2)

383 He needs to throw her a dildo-shaped pacifier.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2024 02:45 PM (naKkV)

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LOL

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 02:51 PM (T1jzx)

384 Truman's decision in 1952 not to run for what would effectively have been a third term might not have been entirely unrelated to an ongoing war, which happened to be the least popular in American history. As a consequence of which, Truman himself had become deeply unpopular.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan

He nearly lost in 1948 due to the economy and the Korean War and its losses plus the cost to the economy made it worse. It was both Korean War AND the economy as the GOP swept the presidency and congressional elections for the first time since Herbert Hoover.

Read up on the Youngstown Sheet and Tube decision in part as to why people said 'To Err is Truman'.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:51 PM (kW+z9)

385 Honestly, reverting HI and AK to territory status would likely be a good thing in the House and Senate. Making a rule that Rhode Island is not a state would be a step in the right direction.
Posted by: Pudinhead a

But Rhode Island already isn't a real place.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 26, 2024 02:51 PM (CIS44)

386 Bryan Hernandez @bryanhTV 23h
UPDATE: President Biden and his family arrived to Vandenberg Space Force Base.

They then boarded Air Force One and are en route to Rehoboth, Delaware.

A reporter can be heard asking the president about Israel-Hamas ceasefire talks.

Miranda Devine @mirandadevine 17h
Now for another NINE-day vacation in Delaware.
Taxpayers are spending millions of dollars on planes and helicopters and motorcades and Secret Service to ferry POTUS Biden and his family all over the country on this endless vacation.
Do none of them have a job?

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:52 PM (c39uV)

387 Not my wife's. She's a misogynist, and proud of it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:44 PM (v6JzV)

Why would she be proud of being a misogynist, rather than
just being a person who doesn't like Kamala or leftist women, or that's what you meant?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Fen, she got teased a lot by girls in school when she was young. And she has more of a guy brain, and thinks that women in general are pretty flighty. She (and I) are glad that she's not like that. Though I do have to deal with her redheadedness from time to time.

Her Mom was a mispgynist too, for different reasons.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2024 02:53 PM (v6JzV)

388 nood Bobby

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 26, 2024 02:53 PM (c39uV)

389 He nearly lost in 1948 due to the economy and the Korean War and its losses plus the cost to the economy made it worse.
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Korean War started in 1950; Eisenhower was elected in 1952 to end it.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at August 26, 2024 02:53 PM (HRai7)

390
Posobiec was kind. He didn't include Clinton, Obama or W, either. Jimmah is, of course, otherwise occupied.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Jimmah politicking from a hospice bed is hard work. He doesn't want to pine for the fjords until after he gets to vote for Kamala to complete his destructive work on Earth.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:53 PM (kW+z9)

391 Another thing on the taxing of unrealized income: if they take, say 25% of the asset's increase in value (unrealized capital gain), the basis is reset, yes? So there would be lots of such taxes paid in Year 1 (on all unrealized capital gains up to that point), but dramatically fewer taxes each year thereafter...?

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 26, 2024 02:54 PM (qUkBO)

392 They have planted seed pods in montana

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 26, 2024 02:43 PM (PXvVL)
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Universities are the planting sites, invariably.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 26, 2024 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

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Truth. Even formerly conservative, smaller cities (e.g. Flagstaff) are destroyed by the presence of a university and the Communist Nihilistic Death Cult Cancer they engender and spread.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 26, 2024 02:56 PM (T1jzx)

393 Korean War started in 1950; Eisenhower was elected in 1952 to end it.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan
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Actually he wasn't so direct. What Eisenhower said in the 52 campaign was "I Will Go to Korea" period.

Go back and look at the economic stats for the era and public polling was relatively decent in that era. Truman and Dems lost as much for his handling of the economy as they did over Korea.

Taft was the one arguing that Truman's War was unconstitutional due to the way it evolved. And Taft lost the GOP nomination race to Ike who was seen as being more favorable to intervene abroad to stop Communism.

Things are complicated in history and rarely is there one overriding reason for the way things were.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2024 02:56 PM (kW+z9)

394 The Dumb-O-Crats the Stupid Jackass Party(Liberal Democrats)and their Partners in crime the M.S. Media Bottom Feeders

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 26, 2024 04:30 PM (wGqjj)

395 JD Vance was getting pushback from Jonathan Karl during a recent interview about the price controls comment. Karl didn’t offer who told him Kam didn’t mean it FRFR. Vance pointed out Kamala hasn’t spoken to anyone on the record and said something along the lines of, “Says who Jon? I’m not talking about your late night Friday phone calls from the campaign”

Posted by: 4341 at August 26, 2024 07:03 PM (ywISO)

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