California, Oregon Offer Free Loans for Home Buyers -- But Only If They're Illegal Aliens

Everything for aliens, nothing for actual citizens.

California's Senate Appropriations Committee has moved forward with a bill that would allow illegal aliens to access the state's zero-down, no-payment home loan program, a move raising concerns about significant cost pressures.
Key Details:
The bill, AB 1840, prevents the state's California Dream for All Shared Appreciation Loans program from denying applicants based on immigration status.
The program offers loans up to 20% of a home's purchase price with no down payment or monthly payments, repayable when the home is refinanced, sold, or transferred.
The expansion could create "significant cost pressures," with unknown costs potentially in the millions annually.

In other words, all the free money going into the housing market -- for illegal aliens -- will drive up prices for the disfavored group: US citizens. The illegals will do fine because the huge subsidies will offset the inflationary effect on prices, but people not receiving the subsidies will just get hit by housing inflation.

According to Just the News, California's Senate Appropriations Committee has advanced a controversial bill aimed at expanding the state's zero-down, no-payment home loan program to illegal aliens. The legislation, known as AB 1840, authored by Assembly member Joaquin Arambula (D-Fresno), seeks to make the California Dream for All Shared Appreciation Loans program accessible to all residents, regardless of immigration status.

Actually, the subsidies do depend on immigration status: US citizens need not apply.

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The program currently allows eligible applicants to receive a state-backed loan covering up to 20% of the home's purchase price--essentially the typical down payment--without requiring any down payment or monthly payments. Borrowers are expected to repay the original loan amount plus 20% of any increase in property value when the home is refinanced, sold, or transferred.
However, critics are raising alarms about the financial impact of this expansion. The Appropriations Committee's analysis highlighted "unknown significant cost pressures" that could reach into the millions annually to fund the program's broader eligibility.
The expansion comes amid an already strained housing market in California, where the median home price hovers near $1 million. The high cost of housing means that the typical household needs an income of over $200,000 to afford a home--more than three times the median household income in the state.

Say, didn't we try giving free houses -- no down payment, no job, no income -- to poor people who could not possibly pay the mortgage costs before?

And didn't that collapse the entire world economy?

Now we're adding a NC to NINJA -- No income, no job, no citizenship.

This development recalls the home down payment assistance programs from the George W. Bush administration, which have been widely criticized for contributing to the 2007-2008 global financial crisis by inflating housing prices and lowering loan recipient quality. Critics warn that expanding California's program to undocumented immigrants could exacerbate existing housing market pressures, making it harder for all residents to afford homes.

Meanwhile, in communist Oregon, a taxpayer funded corporation is giving away $30,000 in free subsidies for buying a home.

But, again -- only if you're an illegal alien.
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Hacienda Community Development Corp. is participating in a taxpayer-funded down payment assistance program that gives money to non-citizens to buy homes in Oregon while excluding American citizens from eligibility, according to records provided to the Daily Caller.
Hacienda CDC is reportedly offering $30,000 for down payment assistance for eligible new homebuyers through their Camino a Casa program, according to a screenshot first reported by X user Oregon Citizen. "Clients work closely with financial coaches and HUD-certified housing counselors throughout the entirety of the homebuying process. In addition to mortgage readiness and financial fitness workshops, we provide various opportunities for down-payment assistance," the organization states.
The eligibility requirements include being a non-citizen. Republican Oregon state Rep. Ed Diehl told the Daily Caller he received confirmation from Business Oregon that Hacienda CDC is using these funds for non-citizens while excluding American citizens.
"American citizens in Oregon are struggling to find and buy a home. We have a severe housing shortage in this state. I am appalled that the hard-earned, limited tax dollars of Oregonians are being used to prioritize home ownership for certain non-US citizens. Oregon can't end this state-sponsored discrimination soon enough," Diehl told the Daily Caller.

Oregon is now giving $30,000 for new home buyers. The only requirement?

You can't be an American citizen.pic.twitter.com/85BEjjBvbW
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1 !

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 04:43 PM (v0R5T)

2 The pendulum swinging back will be like the opening scene in "Ghost Ship" ...2002..

Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 04:43 PM (jvJvP)

3 If OrangeManBad is elected (not holding my breath, thanks Stalin's Vote Counters) he ought to put those fckers under military rule for this alone.

You're PAYING the invaders to come in with state tax funds.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 04:43 PM (FnneF)

4 I'm sure it will work out just fine. People who come here illegally for free shit from the government will pay back their loans. They are the ones getting the jobs these days.

Posted by: huerfano at August 23, 2024 04:44 PM (VGOMa)

5 - missed the RFK Jr thread, by a couple threads.
In case nobody mentioned it while you were reading the comments, the Tucker interview you brought up about processed foods and microplastics was likely the one with Calley and Casey Means.
I'd grab ya a link but don't care to get threatened with the ban hammer for not using tiny url.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 23, 2024 04:45 PM (aCV/b)

6 I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like something that can be challenged.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at August 23, 2024 04:45 PM (FC3uE)

7 How can I apply for this so I can be included in the Lawsuit that's gonna come, Might as well get some of that Taxpayer money

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 23, 2024 04:45 PM (FCrpy)

8 Yeah, reading more of the content, I'm fine with pendulum scythe.

Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 04:45 PM (jvJvP)

9 How is this not literal, actual treason?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (+1mJK)

10 So, can I renounce my citizenship, illegally come back, and then get freebies?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (0jOr6)

11 The world the AWFLs made.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (CHHv1)

12 Aaaaand...

there goes the neighborhood.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (Be630)

13 I don't think Democrats understand economics, at all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (XV/Pl)

14 Will the banks ask for proof of citizenship, oops, I mean non-citizenship.

Posted by: WisRich at August 23, 2024 04:47 PM (G0vdT)

15 Unfortunately, we won’t have John McCain around to steer us out of the coming disaster!

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 23, 2024 04:47 PM (rbKZ6)

16 /pretends to be shocked

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 23, 2024 04:47 PM (JMAcK)

17 So they get free money for a 20% down payment on a house.
Then they fall behind on the mortgage, the house gets repossessed, they move back to Honduras to sell tortillas.
Sounds like a plan.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 04:48 PM (v0R5T)

18 Cali and Oregon are gone. Kick 'em out, build a wall. Eastern Oregon better get with Idaho quick. Ditto norther Cal. Declare your independence asap

Posted by: Ex GOP at August 23, 2024 04:48 PM (GpUII)

19 I really hope the people of England realize that the immigrants aren't the main enemy.

I mean, they are a conquering force, but it's their "elites" that hate them and want them dead.

They have to deal with the "elites" before they can deal with their imported murderous hordes.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 23, 2024 04:48 PM (JMAcK)

20 And the honest American working homeless get screwed harder.

I'm sure none of the money gone into buying those homes will buy craptastically built houses where what's saved from cutting corners gets donated back to certain parties. Absolutely certain.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 23, 2024 04:49 PM (OUMaO)

21 So illegal aliens will be competing with and given enough money to *beat* the 25K Kamala is giving select young-marrieds.

Yeah, this is *not* going to cause inflation of house prices. Sure it won't.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 04:49 PM (krQz2)

22 Correction the 2008 Economic Crisis was caused by Bendover Barney Frank (D-Masshoe) who pushed through rules to force/incent bankers to give loans to people who could never possibly pay the loans back.

These junk loans were bundled with normal loans and bought by Freddie Mac. Ultimately US taxpayers paid off the loans because W had to save the banks.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 23, 2024 04:49 PM (wBaIH)

23 What's funny is this makes an easy list of people to be deported and never allowed back in the US.

... well duh, that includes the people who claimed houses under this program, not just the people who started the policy.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 04:49 PM (FnneF)

24 We aren't a serious state and this is embarrassing. They really hate us. I'd love to know how poor citizens feel about this.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 04:49 PM (6IAhu)

25 Great! I only had to do six years in the Corps to qualify for a 0% down mortgage.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 23, 2024 04:49 PM (2UnvF)

26

Under these programs the Illegals DO have to give up their daughters back door to the seller and loan officer but since the coyotes have already been there the Illegals don't really care...

Posted by: Just Sayin at August 23, 2024 04:50 PM (Iynsv)

27 We need to shove all the illegals into Cali, Oregon, and Washington, and then put an impenetrable military barrier between them and the rest of the states.

Sorry, Nurse, Diogenes, CaliGirl, and other members of the Horde who live there. Either get out now, or we can Underground Railroad you out.

Then, we'll work on similarly fortifying the East Coast, from DC north.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 23, 2024 04:50 PM (v6JzV)

28 "We've quietly replaced sober principles of responsible government with insane cargo cult reasoning. Let's see if anyone notices!"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:50 PM (vtRd1)

29 Wow, beer thirty must have struck early!

See, the DNC DID have lasting effects!

Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 04:50 PM (jvJvP)

30 So they get free money for a 20% down payment on a house.
Then they fall behind on the mortgage, the house gets repossessed, they move back to Honduras to sell tortillas.
Sounds like a plan.

Posted by: wth

And the money gets donated back to Democrats, while the address remains on record for vote harvesting. Win all around for certain groups.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (OUMaO)

31 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that house or town. I assure you: It will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town. Mathew 10:14-15

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (/U5Yz)

32 Could you imagine the fraud.

Hilarious....

Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (jvJvP)

33 kinda makes you wonder why an illegal immigrant would be *interested* in a pathway to citizenship. it would cut them off from all the bennies.

Posted by: anachronda at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (oY6Yp)

34 Renouncing your citizenship is basically illegal. I think several have tried. It doesn't ever end well.

You would be better off faking your death, getting fake papers from some dubious hellhole like Senegal or Belgium, and then walking back in.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (BAEGB)

35 >>> 27 We need to shove all the illegals into Cali, Oregon, and Washington, and then put an impenetrable military barrier between them and the rest of the states.

Sorry, Nurse, Diogenes, CaliGirl, and other members of the Horde who live there. Either get out now, or we can Underground Railroad you out.

Then, we'll work on similarly fortifying the East Coast, from DC north.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 23, 2024 04:50 PM (v6JzV)

Nope.

The commies don't get to keep *any* US territory. They'll just keep stealing more. Our Morons and 'Ettes can leave if they want, but if they stay, they'll be good sources for ... information.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (FnneF)

36 I remember when my newlywed wife and I lived in a roach-infested apartment and ate box spaghetti every night to save a down payment for a house.

We were idiots, apparently.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (vtRd1)

37 I'd say this is crazy but for them it isn't. How do we lose to these "people"?

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (J071t)

38 "According to Just the News, California's Senate Appropriations Committee has advanced a controversial bill aimed at EXPANDING the state's zero-down, no-payment home loan program to illegal aliens."

Sooooo, the program already exists it's being expanded to include criminally trespassing aliens. Don't get me wrong I don't think it should exist at all for anyone but stating it's only for CTA's isn't correct.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (PWI4f)

39 wrt Tim Chinese Walz...
Minnesota, wtf?? Turn in your American cards.

Posted by: Ex GOP at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (GpUII)

40 The Juan de Fuca plate and the San Andreas Fault have been nothing but a disappointment, IMO.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (Be630)

41 No federal money for those states who are discriminating against American citizens.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (w6EFb)

42 Sorry, Nurse, Diogenes, CaliGirl, and other members of the Horde who live there. Either get out now, or we can Underground Railroad you out.
.......

Will it be High Speed underground rail?

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (v0R5T)

43 There are US citizens so fn retarded they support these geniuses.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (J071t)

44 >>So they get free money for a 20% down payment on a house.
Then they fall behind on the mortgage, the house gets repossessed, they move back to Honduras to sell tortillas.

Not without gutting the house for salvage metal.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (Be630)

45 Seriously. This sort of shit in the housing market, with the year I've had, has become my Official Big Issue. You want to do right on this, you get a listen. You don't, get fucked.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (OUMaO)

46 What if I just put my citizenship on pause? Don’t think anything says that’s illegal.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (0jOr6)

47 >>> 37 I'd say this is crazy but for them it isn't. How do we lose to these "people"?
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 04:52 PM (J071t)

It's amazing what you can get away with if you have absolutely no fcking conscience at all. Eventually, normal people do get tired of your shit; then things get "interesting".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (FnneF)

48 It's idiotic. It's California.

Ronald Reagan must be turning over in his grave.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (oCQkM)

49 The application files will be a good source of addresses for the Trump deportations.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (2UnvF)

50 36 I remember when my newlywed wife and I lived in a roach-infested apartment and ate box spaghetti every night to save a down payment for a house.

We were idiots, apparently.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (vtRd1)

Ditto

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (6IAhu)

51 Honestly, I see their point.

The Gang Violence does nothing for them until it reaches the Suburbs.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (Be630)

52 I really hope the people of England realize that the immigrants aren't the main enemy.

I mean, they are a conquering force, but it's their "elites" that hate them and want them dead.

They have to deal with the "elites" before they can deal with their imported murderous hordes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 23, 2024 04:48 PM (JMAcK)

Good thing we don't have to worry about anything like that.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (JMAcK)

53 LIV: Why can't I afford housing any more?

Lefties: And you illegal alien get a free house and you illegal alien get a free house and you illegal alien get a free house!

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (oZhjI)

54 No Border Marxism for you
Only Olly All in Free

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (fwDg9)

55 kinda makes you wonder why an illegal immigrant would be *interested* in a pathway to citizenship. it would cut them off from all the bennies.
Posted by: anachronda
.....

and then they will pay federal TAXES

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (v0R5T)

56 Then they fall behind on the mortgage, the house gets repossessed, they move back to Honduras to sell tortillas.
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 04:48 PM (v0R5T)

And who winds up with the deed?

Blackrock.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (BAEGB)

57 Could you imagine the fraud.

Hilarious....
Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (jvJvP)

California already found a way to buy $40 tents for the homeless at $120,000 a pop. Seems it's just a matter of inserting the right politically-connected NGOs into the process.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (vtRd1)

58 >> I'd say this is crazy but for them it isn't. How do we lose to these "people"?

By not throwing them out of Helicopters.

Posted by: The Ghost of Augusto Pinochet at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (Be630)

59 >>> 56 Then they fall behind on the mortgage, the house gets repossessed, they move back to Honduras to sell tortillas.
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 04:48 PM (v0R5T)

And who winds up with the deed?

Blackrock.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 04:54 PM (BAEGB)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Larry Fink at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (FnneF)

60 It's almost like the communists hate American citizens and want illegals to have everything.

Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (kIwCj)

61 and with the coming interest rate cuts ... THAT should really tame inflation.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (Cus5s)

62 Local town to mine posted an article that they now have the schools "focusing on educating our newcomers" which boils down to spending a shit ton more money and teaching in 100 different languages.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (oZhjI)

63 The amazing thing is that California (and probably Oregon, too) is broke already. So let's pile on some ridiculous spending; that'll help the state's finances.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (oCQkM)

64 These commies are trying to see what it takes to start a war. This is treason because they are funding invaders with citizens money.

A gross violation of The Social Contract.

They're so cute.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (LaNzR)

65 I get that there are good people in these states who aren't voting for the marxist madness. But they are vastly outnumbered. Time to get a lightbulb, pick a good state, there are plenty of them, and move yourself and your loved ones. The separation times are coming.

Posted by: Ex GOP at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (GpUII)

66 It's almost like the communists hate American citizens and want illegals to have everything.

Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (kIwCj)
______________

You got it in one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (oCQkM)

67 I used to think my Dad was nuts when he would expound that no one was as dumb as the pols.

Then I grew up.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (mC3iL)

68 >>> 63 The amazing thing is that California (and probably Oregon, too) is broke already. So let's pile on some ridiculous spending; that'll help the state's finances.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (oCQkM)

Given all the unfunded state pensions looming, which if any states are even close to being solvent?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (FnneF)

69 How is this not a violation of the Equal Protection Act?

Secondly, the ILLEGAL immigrants are here illegally. It is a violation of the law to give someone money when you are aware that the money will be used to commit a crime. Essentially the very presence of these individuals is a crime and assisting them in continuing that act is a crime committed by the provider (State government).

Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (dIske)

70 Nurse. We'll need more Leeches.

Posted by: Dr Democrat at August 23, 2024 04:57 PM (Be630)

71 Could you imagine the fraud.

A common bit of investment advice if you have enough for a down payment is to go buy a rental property.

Now imagine you don't need a down payment - uncle sugar will just give you the down payment and mortgage for free.

What's to stop you from building a real estate empire each property under a different name?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 04:57 PM (oZhjI)

72 What happens when they're deported?

Posted by: enough BS at August 23, 2024 04:57 PM (2NXcZ)

73 The amazing thing is that California (and probably Oregon, too) is broke already. So let's pile on some ridiculous spending; that'll help the state's finances.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (oCQkM)

Just wait until California pays off black people at seven figures each for being black. "Reparations" they're calling it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:57 PM (vtRd1)

74
Is it me or does Rich Lowry look nothing like Rich Lowry of 10 years ago?

btw, aren't we overdue for Ace to dump on fat jonah goldberg and fat fake "professor" tom nichols?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 23, 2024 04:57 PM (vxs1i)

75 It's almost like the communists hate American citizens and want illegals to have everything.

In the UK they are taking houses from the citizens to give to the invaders.

That's what CA is doing here just with a couple extra steps.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (oZhjI)

76 Remind again, why aren't Californian and Oregonian residents aren't giving their "representatives" some physical encouragement?

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (f1kZG)

77 kinda makes you wonder why an illegal immigrant would be *interested* in a pathway to citizenship. it would cut them off from all the bennies.

--

We're close to the point where it won't matter. Hispanic? Black? White? Gay? Tranny? Each will receive (or not receive) gov't benefits based solely on their race/orientation/victim hierarchy.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (N2zvp)

78 Secondly, the ILLEGAL immigrants are here illegally. It is a violation of the law to give someone money when you are aware that the money will be used to commit a crime. Essentially the very presence of these individuals is a crime and assisting them in continuing that act is a crime committed by the provider (State government).

Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 04:56 PM (dIske)
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Agree. How can you give money to people who have no legal presence, as the Court has repeatedly found?!

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (krQz2)

79 They're not dumb.

They're evil.

They do want you to say that they're dumb so that the actually dumb people can then say "you're just mean!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (BAEGB)

80
Shame I don't own a home in Oregon as the price just went up $30,000. Sweet equity without the sweat.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (RKVpM)

81 So how would the illegal alien qualify for a mortgage from a FDIC regulated bank?

I'm thinking that there are serious KYC problems.
Also, is the I9 for employment no longer a thing and anyone from anywhere with any immigration status can pull down a gig that can make the four figure a month minimum monthly mortgage payment?

This would be news for green card holders and immigrants requiring sponsors to know that you can have a well paying gig that no longer requires TINs or sponsorships.

The bottom line, this is all just click-bait for stupid people to lose their minds over.

The CA legislators are trolling y'all.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (TfEvu)

82 I have sent these videos and articles over the past few days to several people I know and they are probably more pissed off at this than anything else.

If more black Americans knew that these Democrat run states are doing this and that this will continue if they elect a Democrat as POTUS, I think more of them would vote for Trump instead of Kamala.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (NpAcC)

83 Local town to mine posted an article that they now have the schools "focusing on educating our newcomers" which boils down to spending a shit ton more money and teaching in 100 different languages.
Posted by: 18-1

The high school for the district that we moved from decided to paint the national flag of every country of origin of it's student body. Guess which one they missed? You know, the flag of the largest number of students in the school?

You know this. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (mC3iL)

84 57 Could you imagine the fraud.

Hilarious....
Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (jvJvP)

California already found a way to buy $40 tents for the homeless at $120,000 a pop. Seems it's just a matter of inserting the right politically-connected NGOs into the process.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (vtRd1)

That's all leftism seems to be to me. Full employment program for useless people. The clipboard people. They pass laws, NGOs get grants to help the homeless. There's lots of money to be skimmed and their shock troops to keep employed.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (6IAhu)

85 >>> 75
==
In the UK they are taking houses from the citizens to give to the invaders.

That's what CA is doing here just with a couple extra steps.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 04:58 PM (oZhjI)

Not just the UK, I know the cvnts in the Netherlands started that, so it's probably in other eurotrash countries as well.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (FnneF)

86 Time to return to City States. Any community over, say, 700,000 in population (or a certain %age of the state population) becomes its own state. They get one congressman and one senator. No more bullying the rest of their state into their bullshit un-American policies.
If they resist, build a fence around them.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (W/lyH)

87 Local town to mine posted an article that they now have the schools "focusing on educating our newcomers" which boils down to spending a shit ton more money and teaching in 100 different languages.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (oZhjI)
________________

Why teach? Just have the parasites use Duolingo at school. Or, just set them down in front of a TV with English only. See the actions of people, hear what they say, put closed captioning on.

They'll learn. Hell, I pick a little Spanish from five minutes of watching a Tijuana TV station.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (oCQkM)

88 >> Remind again, why aren't Californian and Oregonian residents aren't giving their "representatives" some physical encouragement?

Make Tar and Feathers Great Again

Posted by: Dr Democrat at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (Be630)

89 36 I remember when my newlywed wife and I lived in a roach-infested apartment and ate box spaghetti every night to save a down payment for a house.

We were idiots, apparently.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:51 PM (vtRd1)

Ditto
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 04:53 PM (6IAhu)

Wow, I totally forgot about the box spaghetti. That brings back some memories.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (NtVYv)

90 The amazing thing is that California (and probably Oregon, too) is broke already. So let's pile on some ridiculous spending; that'll help the state's finances.

--

Add in reparations!

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (N2zvp)

91 When all these blue states go bankrupt, they should revert to territories and the people there be forced to stay and unfuck them.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (3Ope8)

92 So how would the illegal alien qualify for a mortgage from a FDIC regulated bank?

Yep. Good luck proving your ability to earn an income when you can't (at least on paper) legally work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 05:00 PM (vtRd1)

93 California already found a way to buy $40 tents for the homeless at $120,000 a pop. Seems it's just a matter of inserting the right politically-connected NGOs into the process.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (vtRd1)

I miss $10,000 toilet seats......
Sad.....in so many ways....

Posted by: Stateless at August 23, 2024 05:00 PM (jvJvP)

94 Agree. How can you give money to people who have no legal presence, as the Court has repeatedly found?!

Went to get my license renewed recently and they had signs all over the walls that if you don't have every form of ID they want they'll tell you to FO and go book another appointment.

However there were newer signs saying if you were, uh, undocumented they'd take any documentation you have or...none...and give you a license. The loudspeaker was announcing the same thing in English...and Spanish...and I believe in a bunch of languages I don't speak

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 05:00 PM (oZhjI)

95 California already found a way to buy $40 tents for the homeless at $120,000 a pop. Seems it's just a matter of inserting the right politically-connected NGOs into the process.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (vtRd1)
______________

Not to mention the apartments California provides to the "homeless" - at $600,000 a pop.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:00 PM (oCQkM)

96 How is any of this even remotely legal?

The Oregon one is particularly egregious because they are flat out transferring wealth from taxpaying citizens to non-citizens.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (7fElN)

97 @RonFilipkowski Fmr Fox & Newsmax host Eric Bolling w/an epic rant today: “We’re losing the race! We’re losing the presidency..The enthusiasm level on the Left is overwhelming..They’re trying to say Democrats are the patriots! They’re wearing camo hats with Harris’ name on it! Camo-that’s ours!” (X link has video)

You can always buy more camo, but you can't buy decency, sincerity, humanity, talent and courage. God help you all as this sinks in with more voters!

He's so damn angry he could just start sending out dick pics...... Oh wait, too late

FYI "Patriots" don't crap on overturning free and fair elections and torching the peaceful transfer of power. These are some special assholes.

Guess what Eric. The American Flag is ours too! Move over cry babies. The REAL Patriots are back in town!

I don't think 'camo' is trade marked by anyone (except for 'RealTree" and nonsense like that), and camo looks soo much better that that red shit you folks seem to like storing on your empty heads.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (JCZqz)

98 You know the "safety net" that Democrats used to lie about was thy reason we had to have welfare?

Here's the thing:
You're not eligible.

Go ahead. Try and find just one white, middle class male who lost his job but qualified for food stamps, housing assistance and unemployment.

You won't find one.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (POTzq)

99 13 I don't think Democrats understand economics, at all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (XV/Pl)
—-
They’re evil, not stupid. They understand exactly what they’re doing. They know it hurts us; that’s why they’re doing it. It’s like people still haven’t internalized that, yes, they really are replacing us and working to destroy us.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (lCs48)

100 Local town to mine posted an article that they now have the schools "focusing on educating our newcomers" which boils down to spending a shit ton more money and teaching in 100 different languages.
Posted by: 18-1

Guess they forgot about the time CA schools needed more students in their language programs so they shifted poor black English speakers into these other glasses and taught them in a foreign language.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (n7h9X)

101 Go ahead. Try and find just one white, middle class male who lost his job but qualified for food stamps, housing assistance and unemployment.

That's what the fentanyl is for

Posted by: The head of DHS at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (oZhjI)

102 I'd grab ya a link but don't care to get threatened with the ban hammer for not using tiny url.
Posted by: TeeJ at August 23, 2024 04:45 PM (aCV/b)

Just put tinyurl up in your browser tool bar. Then, when you visit a site you want to link, just click on the tinyurl icon in your tool bar. A tinyurl will be created that you just copy and paste into your comment here. Easy.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (iODuv)

103 The CA legislators are trolling y'all.

Have you ever interacted with a CA legislator?

They're the stupidest bunch of freaks you'll ever met.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (vtRd1)

104 Newsweek is reporting a poll that has Kamalala up 8 points nationally.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 05:02 PM (J071t)

105 Seems to me that if you give illegals documents, you really can't call them "undocumented" any more.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:02 PM (krQz2)

106 >>> 105 Seems to me that if you give illegals documents, you really can't call them "undocumented" any more.
Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:02 PM (krQz2)

I can still can them invaders.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 05:02 PM (FnneF)

107 Four legs good, two legs bad.

At least they're not confiscating citizens' homes and transferring ownership to 10 illegal alien families ... yet.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 23, 2024 05:02 PM (EE4b6)

108 Are you useless? Worthless? Lazy? Stupid? Bereft of skills? Then come here to us, we'll give you everything you want, free of charge!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (oCQkM)

109 I don't think Democrats understand economics, at all.

Somehow they become multi millionaires "working" gubmint jobs that nominally pay 100K or less a year and spending like drunk sailors their whole lives.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (oZhjI)

110 >> Newsweek is reporting a poll that has Kamalala up 8 points nationally.

Yuh -huh.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (Be630)

111 I don't think Democrats understand economics, at all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (XV/Pl)
—-
They’re evil, not stupid. They understand exactly what they’re doing. They know it hurts us; that’s why they’re doing it. It’s like people still haven’t internalized that, yes, they really are replacing us and working to destroy us.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (lCs4

No they are criminal AND stupid. They take because somehow things will work out, somebody will fix it. Just not them., and they get paid regardless.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (n7h9X)

112 One thing Communist Marxism failed in America is the middle class is its best value, Marxism was to bring up workers in poor countries to equal but it can only drag everyone except the elite to the minimum common denomination

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (fwDg9)

113 Just put tinyurl up in your browser tool bar. Then, when you visit a site you want to link, just click on the tinyurl icon in your tool bar. A tinyurl will be created that you just copy and paste into your comment here. Easy.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy

Simple solutions to common problems shall not be tolerated here!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (mC3iL)

114 I don't think Democrats understand economics, at all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 23, 2024 04:46 PM (XV/Pl)
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There is no reason to understand an inherently evil practice that you are going to replace someday.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (krQz2)

115 I can still can them invaders.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 05:02 PM (FnneF)
______________

I go with the tried and true "wetbacks."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (oCQkM)

116 I'm just amazed there are issues Americans care more about than this. Like abortion.

Posted by: Blago at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (0IVzc)

117 >>> 109 I don't think Democrats understand economics, at all.
==
Somehow they become multi millionaires "working" gubmint jobs that nominally pay 100K or less a year and spending like drunk sailors their whole lives.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (oZhjI)

Silly 18-1. That's a special type of economics which we normal types call "graft".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (FnneF)

118 Remind again, why aren't Californian and Oregonian residents aren't giving their "representatives" some physical encouragement?

Make Tar and Feathers Great Again
Posted by: Dr Democrat at August 23, 2024 04:59 PM (Be630)
***

The names, and business addresses and phone numbers of every state agency doing this needs to be made public.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (W/lyH)

119 Newsweek is reporting a poll that has Kamalala up 8 points nationally.

The cat ladies I know are excited.

The other lefties? They seem pretty down.

I suspect it took a +20 or +25D sample to have Harris up 8.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (oZhjI)

120 This is sure to endear more Democrats looking for homes.

Seriously. Those people are insane.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (Q4IgG)

121 Newsweek is reporting a poll that has Kamalala up 8 points nationally.

Yuh -huh.
Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (Be630)

I think America liked what it saw last night. Back to you, Dan Rather.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (vtRd1)

122 Socialism is theft.

Posted by: torabora at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (IlLvo)

123 The Ho's father was a Marxist economic analyst

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (fwDg9)

124 Next you'll be telling me that they're giving free college tuition to illegals.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (EE4b6)

125 Smh

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (ytSiK)

126 Rules? Requirements? Don't be naive.

They'll put a little check mark box labeled "EXEMPT" on the form and poof, liability gone.

And they'll get a tidy little kickback from the printers to do it, too.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (BAEGB)

127 Kennedy stated the polls are being skewed to help Kamalala.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (J071t)

128 So what happens when they won't make the payments? Because we know that is gonna happen.

My prediction is that nothing will happen and they will be allowed to remain in their house and the State (taxpayer) will be on the hook for the bad loan.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 23, 2024 05:05 PM (QNSds)

129 This is sure to endear more Democrats looking for homes.

Seriously. Those people are insane.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (Q4IgG)
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They'll just whine about it when it hits them. Another "Failure of late-stage Capitalism" or something.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:05 PM (krQz2)

130 Kennedy stated the polls are being skewed to help Kamalala.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (J071t)
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I shannot believe that.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:05 PM (krQz2)

131 The Ho's father was a Marxist economic analyst
Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (fwDg9)

So she gets her being a cocksucker from her father's side.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:06 PM (BAEGB)

132 This is about keeping/not losing congressional seats.

X number of home owners * Y variable = number of illegals.

Added together = Z population for apportionment.

In the future: You're actually going to vote against the party that gave you free money to buy a house for your family?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 23, 2024 05:06 PM (FxH7T)

133 If you sneak into Mexico and say three times, I'm not an American, you can sneak back into America and get free wonderful things.

Posted by: torabora at August 23, 2024 05:06 PM (IlLvo)

134 You paranoid white supremacists conspiracy wingnuts with your replacement derangement!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 23, 2024 05:06 PM (7xWEH)

135 >>The Ho's father was a Marxist economic analyst

Chocolate Rations Expert

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (Be630)

136 This is sure to endear more Democrats looking for homes.

Seriously. Those people are insane.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (Q4IgG)

It will make no difference. Even if they had balanced information, Dem voters completely lack the ability to connect cause to effect.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (vtRd1)

137 Making NINJA Loans and The Resultant 2008 Financial Collapse Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (EE4b6)

138 Afternoon.

Well it would make for an easy way for the Feds to hunt down illegals. Just find out who qualifies for these programs. Granted Biden-Harris wouldn't do it but an enterprising Republican could.

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (NdHSF)

139 You know the "safety net" that Democrats used to lie about was thy reason we had to have welfare?
_______________

But the "safety net" turned into a "hammock" for all too many people. Some "families" are on what? The fifth generation of welfare recipients now?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (oCQkM)

140 This shit is just blowing my mind.

Americans can't afford food, gas, insurance, car note, mortgage, etc.

And the Democrats are all, "but abortion and white supremacists!"

Da fuk does that matter when I'm hungry, bitch?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (POTzq)

141 My prediction is that nothing will happen and they will be allowed to remain in their house and the State (taxpayer) will be on the hook for the bad loan.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 23, 2024 05:05 PM (QNSds)

What does Blackrock care if some beaners are squatting in their house? They ain't ever gonna set foot there. And they'll get far more return on investment trading on the mere existence of that deed in their portfolio than some square-ass humps actually paying on their mortgages.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:08 PM (BAEGB)

142 The price of houses just went up $30,000 magically. Just like college did when the gov't took over loans.

Posted by: Real Estate Agent at August 23, 2024 05:08 PM (lmKVt)

143
I walked away from my first home purchase with less then $25.00 left in my checking account. A month later the agent in charge of closing called me and said he forgot to charge me a $300.00 fee.

I agreed to pay him over the next six months. Tried to write that fee off on my taxes and it was a no go.

I got no sympathy. Just anger.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 23, 2024 05:08 PM (RKVpM)

144 Reconquista! New and improved !

Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2024 05:08 PM (o2ZRX)

145 Nurse. We'll need more Leeches.
Posted by: Dr Democrat at August 23, 2024 04:57 PM (Be630)
......

Careful. Nurse is a certified weirdo.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:09 PM (v0R5T)

146 Kennedy stated the polls are being skewed to help Kamalala.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 23, 2024 05:04 PM (J071t)
_______________

Stop press!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:09 PM (oCQkM)

147 EVERYTHING FROM CITIZENS
EVERYTHING TO ILLEGALS

The new democrat Marxism saying.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 23, 2024 05:09 PM (17s+e)

148 No they are criminal AND stupid. They take because somehow things will work out, somebody will fix it. Just not them., and they get paid regardless.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (n7h9X)
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Yeah, keep telling yourself that. They’re so stupid that they managed to seize control of every institution in society and change the demographics of nation to guarantee their ultimate victory. And CoNsErVaTiVeS are apparently so brilliant that they sat there and let it happen.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at August 23, 2024 05:09 PM (lCs48)

149 Have you ever interacted with a CA legislator?

They're the stupidest bunch of freaks you'll ever met.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 05:01 PM (vtRd1)

________________________________

I was just reading about an ordinance that will likely pass in San Fran that allows residents to sue grocery stores that "close down too quickly." They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.

Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 05:10 PM (dIske)

150 What happens when they're deported?
Posted by: enough BS
......

Dibs on their stuff.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

151 And the Democrats are all, "but abortion and white supremacists!"

Da fuk does that matter when I'm hungry, bitch?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

I'm hungry, homeless, broke.

And I'm looking at these oxygen thieves with their multiple houses, fancy food, tons of cash.

And I'm praying Christ's forgiveness for what I'm thinking next.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 23, 2024 05:10 PM (OUMaO)

152 So the CA "loan" is only repaid (with 0% interest) upon resale of the home. Can anyone see an illegal immigrant family selling that home in their lifetimes? It's essentially a govt giveaway of 20% of the value of the home.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at August 23, 2024 05:11 PM (2xB3Z)

153 They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.
Posted by: Orson

Fuck you. Can't get blood out of a turnip. Of stalk of celery. Or potato. etc.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 05:11 PM (mC3iL)

154 Goody. If Trump loses, I'll renounce my citizenship and move into a free winter home in California and a free summer home in Oregon.

Posted by: LASue at August 23, 2024 05:11 PM (YDB6U)

155 I was just reading about an ordinance that will likely pass in San Fran that allows residents to sue grocery stores that "close down too quickly." They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.
Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 05:10 PM (dIske)

I suppose a store can still say it's open even if it has no product on the shelves and has no employees.

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (NdHSF)

156 So the CA "loan" is only repaid (with 0% interest) upon resale of the home. Can anyone see an illegal immigrant family selling that home in their lifetimes? It's essentially a govt giveaway of 20% of the value of the home.

Lucky for us, CA is awash in extra cash and can afford to float interest-free loans forever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (vtRd1)

157 >>They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.

Does it require them to stock anything besides 3 rutabagas?

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (Be630)

158 I have never ever seen a Democrat presidential campaign where it wasn't a swag bag of goodies from Uncle Sam.

Until now.
No minimum wage increases, no targeted tax credits, no shovel ready jobs, no jobs training, and on and on: they used to have a whole Christmas list every 4 years.

Now?

Eat cake, peasants.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (POTzq)

159 Where is Maxwells Silver Hammer when you need it?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (Aoykm)

160 Stupid whooite supremes...

@disclosetv 9m
JUST IN - Mass stabbing in Solingen, Germany. Multiple people reportedly killed and injured. Arab-looking perpetrator is on the run — BILD

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (IG4Id)

161 And I'm praying Christ's forgiveness for what I'm thinking next.
Posted by: Brother Tim

There's a reason 'Love thy neighbor as thyself' is the most difficult commandment to keep.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 05:13 PM (mC3iL)

162 152 So the CA "loan" is only repaid (with 0% interest) upon resale of the home. Can anyone see an illegal immigrant family selling that home in their lifetimes? It's essentially a govt giveaway of 20% of the value of the home.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at August 23, 2024 05:11 PM (2xB3Z)

I foresee many homes in different family member's names who have been advised by taxpayer funded attorneys.

Posted by: Real Estate Agent at August 23, 2024 05:13 PM (lmKVt)

163 Does it require them to stock anything besides 3 rutabagas?
Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2024 05:12 PM (Be630)

Son of a whore, they just stole two rutabagas.

What do we do now?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:13 PM (BAEGB)

164 Holy shit I think there's a guy selling snowcones in the truck lot.

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2024 05:13 PM (NdHSF)

165 It's perfect. You must be unfamiliar. (PA simply sneaks them in.)

The politicians: Live there, not here.

The Teachers' Unions: Yay! But guide potential problems to the most diverse schools and/or those that won't duke it out in the media and court.
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"The legislation, known as AB 1840, authored by Assembly member Joaquin Arambula (D-Fresno), seeks to make the California Dream for All Shared Appreciation Loans program accessible to all residents, regardless of immigration status."

Digital Democracy:
Joaquin Arambula
Democrat, State Assembly
District 31, Fresno
Time in office: Assembly: 2016-present

Dr. Joaquin Arambula, 47, is an emergency room physician from the San Joaquin Valley. Arambula is the son of former Assemblyman Juan Arambula. He led California’s efforts to expand Medi-Cal access regardless of immigration status. Arambala attended Bowdoin College in Maine and the University of Minnesota Medical School. Arambula and his wife have three daughters. In 2019, a Fresno County jury acquitted him of misdemeanor child endangerment.

Drawn to progressivism like a moth to the flame.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too. at August 23, 2024 05:13 PM (NFX2v)

166 Semi related from WaPo.

Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
Yes, but at a social level, it is not good to allow parents to do everything possible to advantage their children over the children of others.

-
What kind of sicko would favor their own children over others?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 23, 2024 05:13 PM (L/fGl)

167 Illegal Alien - Genesis

https://youtu.be/_61hzuGGJX0

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (i24o9)

168 When all these blue states go bankrupt, they should revert to territories and the people there be forced to stay and unfuck them.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
.....

I need a .45 Colt. And a horse.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (v0R5T)

169 147 EVERYTHING FROM CITIZENS
EVERYTHING TO ILLEGALS

The new democrat Marxism saying.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 23, 2024 05:09 PM (17s+e)

Not so new. It's straight out of La Raza.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (pIfcn)

170 No, you cannot possibly loathe uniparty enough.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (gxokI)

171 He's got a setup in the back of a dinky little Ford Ranger. He even had the jingle music going.

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (NdHSF)

172 It is a proven fact that ER docs are fucking psychopaths.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:15 PM (BAEGB)

173 No problem, they just bundle these loans up with a bunch of other trash loans and they get traded as AAA derivatives, or whatever the fuck they call them.

Posted by: Max Power at August 23, 2024 05:15 PM (q177U)

174 The Ho from San Fransickho is a red diaper doper baby.

Posted by: torabora at August 23, 2024 05:15 PM (IlLvo)

175 I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana.

https://youtu.be/eyCEexG9xjw

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 23, 2024 05:15 PM (i24o9)

176 Well it would make for an easy way for the Feds to hunt down illegals. Just find out who qualifies for these programs. Granted Biden-Harris wouldn't do it but an enterprising Republican could.

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2024 05:07 PM (NdHSF)
_________________

Easier way: open offices to hand out the bennies, and bust the people who show up in them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:15 PM (oCQkM)

177 How is this legal

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (YjECI)

178 166 Semi related from WaPo.

Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
Yes, but at a social level, it is not good to allow parents to do everything possible to advantage their children over the children of others.

-
What kind of sicko would favor their own children over others?

the obvious solution is to socialize families; it takes a village, after all.

Posted by: anachronda at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (oY6Yp)

179 "It is a proven fact that ER docs are fucking psychopaths."

Conserbative Crank hardest hit.

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (89Sog)

180 "How do you feel tonight?"

That's the only question Kamala has answered from a "reporter" in about a month

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (AylM0)

181 I honestly don't see how anyone would qualify.

A bank is going to perform a rectal exam to see if a person is even qualified to be entrusted with a 30yr mortgage. Banks are not real-estate firms and don't want to have to sell properties where the lenders default or tear the place up.

How exactly does the illegal get into the country with no or false ID and get a FICA score that green-lights a million dollar mortgage?

Remember, that the cost of housing goes up? So run-down $1MM home is what, $1.5MM? And what is the monthly payment and annual tax and insurance on that? And how does one prove a reliable income in order to qualify?

Lets pretend that the banks go all out and categorically rejects any fiscal responsibility that jeopardizes their FDIC insurance. CA is basically committing to a multi-decade path to insolvency. Lets say that the wise up and go into insolvency how do they claw back the billions in loan guarantees once the illegals are dug in?

What happens if Trump wins and deports the mortgage holder?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (TfEvu)

182 Why are any of these handouts needed? Why do I have to pay for my house and other peoples' house?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (JwQ8M)

183 I may walk across the bridge over the Columbia River and declare I have escaped from Moronistan. Gimme da money!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (W/lyH)

184 I need a .45 Colt. And a horse.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (v0R5T)

I have a .45 Colt Single Action. I need a lever action in the same in a leather scabbard on a TW 200 with a larger tank.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (i24o9)

185 Megan McArdle is proof that you can build a long and prosperous career off of mere "I don't know just say some shit it doesn't fucking matter".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (BAEGB)

186 I was just reading about an ordinance that will likely pass in San Fran that allows residents to sue grocery stores that "close down too quickly." They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.
Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 05:10 PM (dIske)

Immediately after that passes:
1. Notice posted.
2. Meeting held ("We appreciate your suggestions and will take them under advisement.") .
3. "Store Wanted" ad placed in Penny Saver.
4. Store is stripped bare by shoppers and looters -nothing is restocked.
5. Owner sits around 6 months and then skedaddles to a sane state.

Posted by: LASue at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (YDB6U)

187 NY Post: Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo blasted for dismissing grim job revisions as Trump ‘misinformation’ — when figures came from Labor Department

https://tinyurl.com/ctnetvky

Posted by: Robert at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (NdHSF)

188 Semi related from WaPo.

Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
Yes, but at a social level, it is not good to allow parents to do everything possible to advantage their children over the children of others.
_______________

Why does this stupid bitch have any national presence?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (oCQkM)

189 When all these blue states go bankrupt, they should revert to territories and the people there be forced to stay and unfuck them.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
.....

I need a .45 Colt. And a horse.
Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:14 PM (v0R5T)
****
Well a mare and a Colt 45

Posted by: Zombie George Floyd at August 23, 2024 05:18 PM (IlLvo)

190 Oregon to California "hold my bong"

Posted by: DaveA at August 23, 2024 05:18 PM (FhXTo)

191 [i170 No, you cannot possibly loathe uniparty enough.
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children
It is decidedly so

Posted by: Magic 8 Ball at August 23, 2024 05:18 PM (/U5Yz)

192 Why are any of these handouts needed? Why do I have to pay for my house and other peoples' house?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (JwQ8M)

Because you're privileged because of your (skin color/genitals/mental health), and you need to pay your privilege back to the Society you stole it from.

You Didn't Build That. (little tm in a circle)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:18 PM (BAEGB)

193 I was just reading about an ordinance that will likely pass in San Fran that allows residents to sue grocery stores that "close down too quickly." They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.
Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 05:10 PM (dIske)
________________

Now that'll really encourage companies to open grocery stores in that shithole.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:19 PM (oCQkM)

194 >>> 63 The amazing thing is that California (and probably Oregon, too) is broke already. So let's pile on some ridiculous spending; that'll help the state's finances.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 04:55 PM (oCQkM)

Given all the unfunded state pensions looming, which if any states are even close to being solvent

They will get Fed $$$, yours and mine

So they have it both ways, and we get screwed… both ways

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 23, 2024 05:19 PM (YjECI)

195 I keep seeing McGargle's name but never bothered reading her shit.

Posted by: gKWVE at August 23, 2024 05:19 PM (gKWVE)

196 177 How is this legal
Posted by: Gonzotx at August 23, 2024 05:16 PM (YjECI)
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The same way all of the rest of the outrageous shit they do is “legal”: because they have the power to say it is. That’s why, while the right was busy trying to win spergy arguments, the left was busy accumulating institutional power.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at August 23, 2024 05:19 PM (lCs48)

197 I remember living in a roach infested apartment and eating box spaghetti every night so I could afford drugs.

Posted by: Max Power at August 23, 2024 05:20 PM (q177U)

198 When all these blue states go bankrupt, they should revert to territories and the people there ~~be forced to stay and unfuck them~~ be treated the way the Native Americans were.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

I mean, it's not like they're any more civilized at this stage.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 23, 2024 05:20 PM (OUMaO)

199 168 When all these blue states go bankrupt, they should revert to territories and the people there be forced to stay and unfuck them.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
----

Me and my buddies can unfuck Oregon in about 2 weeks as long as the Feds and the military don't get involved.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 23, 2024 05:20 PM (JwQ8M)

200 This is one of the many reasons our daughter and her family fled California. It took over a decade, but they finally figured out they are the new, second hand citizens in that state. Maybe 3rd hand. There was zero chance they'd survive another year there.

$2500/mo. rent in a house set to be sold EOY
$5/gal gas
costs associated with groceries, services, etc.
intrusive government (local/state/fed)
increasing crime
groomers at public schools

The list goes on and on. Some of the horror stories we're pulling out of them are damn near unbelievable.

But it's coming for all of us eventually unless some fairly drastic changes occur.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 23, 2024 05:20 PM (Q4IgG)

201 MCRGA
Make cattle rustling great again.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:20 PM (v0R5T)

202 Why does this stupid bitch have any national presence?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Something something lolbertarian, something something Reason magazine.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 23, 2024 05:21 PM (IG4Id)

203 I've made no secret that I'm stridently anti-breeding, and even *I* think McArdle is a dumbass for saying something like that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:21 PM (BAEGB)

204 I keep seeing McGargle's name but never bothered reading her shit.

Imagine fat Jonah Goldberg read something other then comic books. And...that's Megan McArdle.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2024 05:21 PM (oZhjI)

205 Megan McArdle is proof that you can build a long and prosperous career off of mere "I don't know just say some shit it doesn't fucking matter".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (BAEGB)

---------------

"Here, hold my gin." -- Kommie-la 2024!

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 23, 2024 05:21 PM (I+YCE)

206 Simple solutions to common problems shall not be tolerated here!
Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 05:03 PM (mC3iL)

Damn. Ya think after 16 years or so, I would have remembered that!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 23, 2024 05:21 PM (iODuv)

207 And what is the monthly payment and annual tax and insurance on that?
________________

As if. Also, you're rayciss.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:22 PM (oCQkM)

208 Should publicize the addresses and get some squatters in those houses when the illegals are out. Then fill them with manure.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at August 23, 2024 05:22 PM (s9EYN)

209 166. Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
Yes, but at a social level, it is not good to allow parents to do everything possible to advantage their children over the children of others.

---
So up with the average children of D.C. and down with Sidwell Friends in D.C. & Bethesda, MD (the school of O & Joe's children, grandchildren) and so on?

Alleged teachers or not, basic 'good for others' is not within those parents & grandparents range of thought.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too. at August 23, 2024 05:23 PM (NFX2v)

210 Then fill them with manure.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at August 23, 2024 05:22 PM (s9EYN)

"Too late."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:23 PM (BAEGB)

211 188 Why does this stupid bitch have any national presence?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:17 PM (oCQkM)

===

I remember when she was a libertarian.

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 23, 2024 05:23 PM (qbei0)

212 IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T GO THERE?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 23, 2024 05:24 PM (JwQ8M)

213 I mean how could a member of the press skip right past an important detail, like favorite ice cream flavor?

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:24 PM (AylM0)

214 Ok, so Shanahan says that RFK's endorsement of DJT depends on the latter denouncing Operation Warp Speed.

I think that's a wrap on the RFK Kremlinology.

Trump wasn't likely to denounce that policy in any event, let alone because an already defeated rival demanded he do it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (0FoWg)

215 Oregon to California "hold my bong"

Posted by: DaveA at August 23, 2024 05:18 PM (FhXTo)
_______________

Great. At least we get a bong out of it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (oCQkM)

216 @disclosetv 9m
JUST IN - Mass stabbing in Solingen, Germany. Multiple people reportedly killed and injured. Arab-looking perpetrator is on the run — BILD

--

Too bad one of the victims couldn't be the reason it happened...Angela Merkel.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (N2zvp)

217 Oregon resident citizen here.. I don't own a home, I can't own a home, the economy is wrecked here. I have no hope of owning a home in the near or distant future.

Posted by: KarlHungus at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (MhCcX)

218 I remember when my newlywed wife and I lived in a roach-infested apartment and ate box spaghetti every night to save a down payment for a house.

We were idiots, apparently.
Posted by: Cicero

So said the Old Folks
Just goes to show you never can tell

Posted by: Chuck Miklos-Berry at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (lSyD7)

219
Now that'll really encourage companies to open grocery stores in that shithole.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:19 PM (oCQkM)

They really don't understand how anything works. This is crazy and I hope it passes so we can get the collapse to happen faster.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (6gSPY)

220 I remember living in a roach infested apartment and eating box spaghetti every night so I could afford drugs.
Posted by: Max Power

That was back when mediocre weed was $50/eighth and had seeds. You can get top-shelf quality eighths for $10 these days (and no semillas). You should never have to live like that to afford your habit again.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2024 05:26 PM (KAi1n)

221 Oregon to California "hold my bong"

Posted by: DaveA at August 23, 2024 05:18 PM (FhXTo)
_______________

Great. At least we get a bong out of it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
......

Nope. They're gonna want it back.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:26 PM (v0R5T)

222 I wonder what's going to happen to all those mortgages to illegal aliens once the law-breakers are deported.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at August 23, 2024 05:26 PM (Rbu5d)

223 I remember when she was a libertarian.

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 23, 2024 05:23 PM (qbei0)
______________

She should have remained a librarian.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:26 PM (oCQkM)

224 I foresee many homes in different family member's names who have been advised by taxpayer funded attorneys.

What is a Family Trust?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 23, 2024 05:26 PM (TfEvu)

225 - For starters, no such thing as a toolbar on my phone.
Second, the threat was over a link that was way shorter that a line of text here, at least on my phone, which is close to as little as they come. And not a single commenter had sad a thing about it.

I have since seen others be told to use a link shortener without the threat, even for a link broken into two lines that likely took less than 25 spaces ea.
The guy is like a cop that never should have been given a badge.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (aCV/b)

226 Nope. They're gonna want it back.

Posted by: wth at August 23, 2024 05:26 PM (v0R5T)
______________

Good luck with that. It's ours, now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (oCQkM)

227 horror stories we're pulling out of them

The Paolo, how you say, has "pulled out" of some horror stories.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (7xWEH)

228 Trump wasn't likely to denounce that policy in any event, let alone because an already defeated rival demanded he do it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 23, 2024 05:25 PM (0FoWg)

$10 says he does now, in some form or another. "We tried to do the right thing and the Deep State hijacked it" or something similar.

He's a dealmaker first, an asshole second, and an ideologue around 10,457th

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (BAEGB)

229 > Why does this stupid bitch have any national presence?

McCardle's what happens when somebody's stuck so far up the asshole of their own political theory they portaled into a parallel universe.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (Odg76)

230 Why does this stupid bitch have any national presence?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

At the WaPo she's a Profit ??? Center.

Posted by: 5 Minute Miklos Manager at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (lSyD7)

231 The only money these states have is money they have collected from citizens.
And this is what they do with it...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 23, 2024 05:28 PM (MeG8a)

232 One of the issues is that people living in sane states don't understand how bad it is in these blue states. Just talking to my stepson on the OR coast about how much cheaper everything is here. I sometimes wonder if I'd have had an easier life if my husband and I hadn't started out on the West Coast.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 23, 2024 05:28 PM (dDSBl)

233 For starters, no such thing as a toolbar on my phone.
Second, the threat was over a link that was way shorter that a line of text here, at least on my phone, which is close to as little as they come. And not a single commenter had sad a thing about it.

I have since seen others be told to use a link shortener without the threat, even for a link broken into two lines that likely took less than 25 spaces ea.
The guy is like a cop that never should have been given a badge.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (aCV/b)

Is this aimed at me? I was just offering a suggestion.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 23, 2024 05:29 PM (iODuv)

234 JUST IN - Mass stabbing in Solingen, Germany. Multiple people reportedly killed and injured. Arab-looking perpetrator is on the run — BILD
________________

No way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:29 PM (oCQkM)

235 California called. The law makers want their bong back.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:29 PM (AylM0)

236 I have since seen others be told to use a link shortener without the threat, even for a link broken into two lines that likely took less than 25 spaces ea.
The guy is like a cop that never should have been given a badge.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (aCV/b)

Link length may not be the only issue. Exposing a link directly to webcrawlers as plaintext may also cause headaches for the Establishment behind the scenes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:29 PM (BAEGB)

237 5 - missed the RFK Jr thread, by a couple threads.
In case nobody mentioned it while you were reading the comments, the Tucker interview you brought up about processed foods and microplastics was likely the one with Calley and Casey Means.
I'd grab ya a link but don't care to get threatened with the ban hammer for not using tiny url.
Posted by: TeeJ at August 23, 2024 04:45 PM (aCV/b)

I missed the RFK jr thread, too. When I read it a couple minutes ago, I thought of the same interview.

Ace, I think you should look at it, maybe it's a post.
Here's the YT link, in case no one above has provided it:
https://tinyurl.com/4zzvc8vk

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at August 23, 2024 05:29 PM (Rbu5d)

238 Oregon to California "hold my bong"
Posted by: DaveA

Bongs are so 20th century. The cool thing is a Volcano.
www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/volcanohybrid

I like to set it to 360F. Just hot air and fun vapor.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2024 05:29 PM (KAi1n)

239 14 Will the banks ask for proof of citizenship, oops, I mean non-citizenship.

Posted by: WisRich at August 23, 2024 04:47 PM (G0vdT)

Good question.

My name Jose Jimenez and I wish to have a loan

Posted by: javems at August 23, 2024 05:30 PM (8I4hW)

240 209 166. Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
Yes, but at a social level, it is not good to allow parents to do everything possible to advantage their children over the children of others.
_________________________

Does this troglodytical thinking apply to all aspects of society? Because my neighbor has an awesome lawn mower. And, mine is pretty average. It gets the job done, but the turning radius is crap.

Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (dIske)

241 The only money these states have is money they have collected from citizens.
And this is what they do with it...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 23, 2024 05:28 PM (MeG8a)
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Turns out, money is the most expensive toilet paper.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (AylM0)

242 > I was just reading about an ordinance that will likely pass in San Fran that allows residents to sue grocery stores that "close down too quickly." They created a whole laundry list of things the stores have to do before they can close. It's called the Neighborhood Grocery Protection Act. It requires the store to give 6 months notice; hold community meetings, and help search for a replacement.

Grocery stores are already on a razor thin 1.5-3% margin. Now they have to float for six months while locals loot them blind and they conform to all the commie exit red tape?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (Odg76)

243 CA continues to roll out the illegal welcoming mat.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (tT6L1)

244 Turns out, money is the most expensive toilet paper.
Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (AylM0)

Not for long at this rate

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (BAEGB)

245 217 Oregon resident citizen here.. I don't own a home, I can't own a home, the economy is wrecked here. I have no hope of owning a home in the near or distant future.

That sucks. Former Oregon resident here, enjoying life in FL. Most of my family left, it was too crazy. We are spread out now--ID, Dakotas, AL, FL Lots of good places left in the former usa. Its a pita to move, but well worth it.

Posted by: Ex GOP at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (GpUII)

246 I remember when my newlywed wife and I lived in a roach-infested apartment and ate box spaghetti every night to save a down payment for a house.

We were idiots, apparently.
Posted by: Cicero
—-
You’re living in a different country now. The rules aren’t the same anymore. People need to understand that.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at August 23, 2024 05:32 PM (lCs48)

247 My name Jose Jimenez and I wish to have a loan
Posted by: javems
......

Yo quiero Taco Bell.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at August 23, 2024 05:32 PM (v0R5T)

248 209 166. Megan McArdle
@asymmetricinfo
Yes, but at a social level, it is not good to allow parents to do everything possible to advantage their children over the children of others.
_____________

Please tell me she hasn't reproduced. Please. Lie, if necessary.

Thanks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:32 PM (oCQkM)

249 > Oregon to California "hold my bong"
----------
US Bongs had a facility in Rockville, MD back in the day. One of their "top shelf" acrylic, multi-chamber bongs was called "The Capitol Hill." With a gatling bowl on it, you didn't stand a chance.

https://tinyurl.com/35jr7e9k

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 23, 2024 05:32 PM (Q4IgG)

250 Megan McCArdle...when Jen Rubin just isn't enough stupid.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:33 PM (tT6L1)

251 > Mass stabbing in Solingen, Germany.

Damn, that's some wicked-sharp irony. Solingen is world famous for making edged tools like razors and knives.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2024 05:33 PM (Odg76)

252 @EX GOP

We're trying to get out in the next few years, but that involves selling a business, which involves a business in Oregon being prosperous, it will be a challenge.

Posted by: KarlHungus at August 23, 2024 05:34 PM (MhCcX)

253 Michigan Alabama Rose Bowl is on. I am looking for the plays where Michigan cheated.

Posted by: Jamaica at August 23, 2024 05:34 PM (IG7T0)

254 Grocery stores are already on a razor thin 1.5-3% margin. Now they have to float for six months while locals loot them blind and they conform to all the commie exit red tape?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (Odg76)
________________

What's to stop the grocery store from just padlocking the place and leaving? How can SF enforce a city ordinance on some outfit now located somewhere else?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:34 PM (oCQkM)

255 can pixy introduce some way to turn links into [link] text maybe with a tooltip explaining where the link goes?
I see why long strings are annoying to phones, but I don't want some cat lady from Manhattan (say) dropping by here with some gay porn links hidden in the tinyurl.

Posted by: gKWVE at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (gKWVE)

256 I should change my name to Puta Majon.

No. Wait. Scratch that. I'll just keep on being the Bad White Man. In my double wide mobile home and 13 year old vehicles.

I have my pride.

I am seriously sick of this shit. Happy Friday, you guys!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (Ad8y9)

257 Megan McCArdle...when Jen Rubin just isn't enough stupid.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:33 PM (tT6L1)
---
And you know you can't endure a full Kohn.

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (AylM0)

258 My name Jose Jimenez and I wish to have a loan
Posted by: javems

FOR TRAINING PURPOSES ONLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUrtO75pPU

Posted by: Senor Mikloso at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (lSyD7)

259 I remember my first bong. Got it in college at UC/SD in 1985. Simple thing with a purple neck that angled back. I named it Merlin. Ahhh, the days of being a carefree college student in the mid-80's.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (KAi1n)

260 I don't want that bong back, anyway. Your girlfriend has lip chancres.

Posted by: Oregon at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (v0R5T)

261 I see why long strings are annoying to phones, but I don't want some cat lady from Manhattan (say) dropping by here with some gay porn links hidden in the tinyurl."

Turn on the preview function of tinyurl and it tells where it goes before you go.

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at August 23, 2024 05:36 PM (89Sog)

262 "What's to stop the grocery store from just padlocking the place and leaving? How can SF enforce a city ordinance on some outfit now located somewhere else?"

SF isn't so great at law enforcement. It excels at passing laws, tho'.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 23, 2024 05:37 PM (MeG8a)

263 What's to stop the grocery store from just padlocking the place and leaving? How can SF enforce a city ordinance on some outfit now located somewhere else?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

What's to stop SF from trying all kinds of fucked up things and making the status quo worse? Absolutely nothing.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2024 05:37 PM (KAi1n)

264 257 Megan McCArdle...when Jen Rubin just isn't enough stupid.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:33 PM (tT6L1)
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And you know you can't endure a full Kohn.
Posted by: Axeman
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Museum grade exhibits of AWFLs that have a platform. Taylor Lorenz is another.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2024 05:38 PM (kW+z9)

265 Speaking of stupid . . .

The Hill
@thehill
"Trump’s spectacle is no match for Harris’s substance"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 23, 2024 05:38 PM (L/fGl)

266 It's the MO of the gutless lolbertarian.

Start with a great big steaming caveat ("at a societal level"), then say something assholish and easily tap-danced around ("...*everything* possible)....

Well no shit. You can't "allow" some cranked up tiger mom to kill every other kid in the class so their own kid gets the highest grade. You can't bribe the coach to make your shithead kid the starting quarterback.

It's a thoughtless, weaselly proposition gussied up in that "i can see up your nostrils now" pseudo-intellectual snobbery, and it's the prime reason i stopped reading most "conservatives" and "libertarians". They're carnival barkers and shit-stirrers pretending they have something interesting to say.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (BAEGB)

267
That sucks. Former Oregon resident here, enjoying life in FL. Most of my family left, it was too crazy. We are spread out now--ID, Dakotas, AL, FL Lots of good places left in the former usa. Its a pita to move, but well worth it.
Posted by: Ex GOP at August 23, 2024 05:31 PM (GpUII)

My family is all leaving California too, it really makes me sad they ruined such a beautiful state with all the resources we have and they mismanaged it into a hellhole, unless you're rich.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (LJ9Iy)

268 > What's to stop the grocery store from just padlocking the place and leaving? How can SF enforce a city ordinance on some outfit now located somewhere else?

Grocery chains with multiple city locations would be in trouble. I suppose if you only own one location in the city you'd be OK. I'm not a lawyer though, so I don't know what sort of trickery they can perform to enforce their city ordinances elsewhere.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (Odg76)

269 I remember my first bong. Got it in college at UC/SD in 1985. Simple thing with a purple neck that angled back. I named it Merlin. Ahhh, the days of being a carefree college student in the mid-80's.
Posted by: SFGoth

If you weren't there to experience it, college during the 70's simply can not be adequately described to you.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (mC3iL)

270 They are serving their constituents.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (RIvkX)

271 You reichwingers all say how you can't wait for Jesus to get here. While, now Jesus is coming with his entire familia and guess what? You're paying for his house!

Posted by: Your Friends at the CA Legislature at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (vtRd1)

272 $10 says he does now, in some form or another. "We tried to do the right thing and the Deep State hijacked it" or something similar.

He's a dealmaker first, an asshole second, and an ideologue around 10,457th
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:27 PM (BAEGB)

Ok. You're on, pal

He'd back down if RFK came to him personally... but this is a public call-out. I think RFK is using his VP as a proxy to deliver an ultimatum everyone knows can't be met, so Trump can decline it and let everyone save face.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 23, 2024 05:39 PM (0FoWg)

273
DROP THE CHALUPA!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 23, 2024 05:40 PM (7xWEH)

274 What's to stop the grocery store from just padlocking the place and leaving? How can SF enforce a city ordinance on some outfit now located somewhere else?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:34 PM (oCQkM)

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Probably the class action law suit filed by the residents pointing to the ordinance violation as documentation of their "inconvenience." Personally, I don't know how a plaintiff could show damages other than mileage costs. Who knows,...it's San Francisco. They probably have a adendum for punitive damges.

Posted by: Orson at August 23, 2024 05:40 PM (dIske)

275 The Hill
@thehill
"Trump’s spectacle is no match for Harris’s substance"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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The Hill is owned by Bloomberg (sold from original owner about 2020 or so) and that is all you need to know about it.

Pap for the hivemind while Bloomberg and his cronies loot the country of remaining assets.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2024 05:40 PM (kW+z9)

276 Michigan Alabama Rose Bowl is on. I am looking for the plays where Michigan cheated.
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The only one I remember is the no call for running into the Alabama kicker that would've been a first down. That was absolutely a game changing moment on the part of the officials.

But still, it makes me proud of that worst Alabama team in years being the equal to the best Michigan team in decades WITH the plays. That's pretty awesome to consider.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at August 23, 2024 05:40 PM (Wyak8)

277 The quality of San Francisco's laws isn't very good.

But they make it up in volume!

Posted by: Axeman at August 23, 2024 05:41 PM (AylM0)

278 SF passes ordnance prohibiting grocery store from closing.

Grocery store responds by leaving the store open, removing employees and merchandise.

Store is burned down by irate thieves. After the ash cools, chain puts up "open for business" sign in the midst of the rubble.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:41 PM (tT6L1)

279 You could put a url in the "url" field of your nic, and then say "link in nic".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:41 PM (BAEGB)

280 >>>SF passes ordnance prohibiting grocery store from closing.

Close anyway. What are they going to do?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 23, 2024 05:42 PM (i24o9)

281 Way OT
Just watched the RFK speech en toto.
Damn. Other than being a Global Warmering nut, he's spot on.
Where's he go? FDA? CCD?

Posted by: MkY at August 23, 2024 05:42 PM (cPGH3)

282 Completely OT but I thought it was interesting. Japanese study of life during the lockdown finds playing video games improves general mental /emotional health.

https://is.gd/v7m1Vg (go to 17:00)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 23, 2024 05:42 PM (L/fGl)

283 college during the 70's

Dorms with labels like "Alco-Hall"?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 23, 2024 05:42 PM (7xWEH)

284 259 I remember my first bong. Got it in college at UC/SD in 1985. Simple thing with a purple neck that angled back. I named it Merlin. Ahhh, the days of being a carefree college student in the mid-80's.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2024 05:35 PM (KAi1n)

I believe I've seen that same bong in every college kids apartment. They must issue them at freshman orientation.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 23, 2024 05:42 PM (LJ9Iy)

285 Is immigration law such that one can not discriminate on the basis of English proficiency? Nor can they check immigration status?

Posted by: Jamaica at August 23, 2024 05:43 PM (IG7T0)

286 It's a thoughtless, weaselly proposition gussied up in that "i can see up your nostrils now" pseudo-intellectual snobbery, and it's the prime reason i stopped reading most "conservatives" and "libertarians". They're carnival barkers and shit-stirrers pretending they have something interesting to say.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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They are paid by others to say what they do and that is why they continue to exist. Billionaires usually.

If the reader ain't paying for it, then they don't get to call the dance tunes for the organ grinder.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2024 05:43 PM (kW+z9)

287 Nood walz

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 23, 2024 05:43 PM (Ydd86)

288 I grew up in a fishing town. Finding bamboo to make a bong was easy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:44 PM (tT6L1)

289 Japanese study of life during the lockdown finds playing video games improves general mental /emotional health.

And those bitches still squak about Manzanar?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 23, 2024 05:44 PM (7xWEH)

290 The Hill
@thehill
"Trump’s spectacle is no match for Harris’s substance"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 23, 2024 05:38 PM (L/fGl)
_____________

Whoa.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 23, 2024 05:44 PM (oCQkM)

291 Holy Lamb - Yes

https://youtu.be/Tno-uymF-9c

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 23, 2024 05:44 PM (i24o9)

292 Alabama's center may be the one person most responsible for the loss.

Posted by: Jamaica at August 23, 2024 05:44 PM (IG7T0)

293 The Hill needs to step away from the bong. The pot might be laced with something just a bit stronger than the weed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 23, 2024 05:45 PM (tT6L1)

294 Kumala turned me into a NOOD

NOOD Kumala

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 23, 2024 05:46 PM (ynpvh)

295 Some of those Bryce Young teams were bad.

Posted by: Jamaica at August 23, 2024 05:48 PM (IG7T0)

296 It's interesting that Washington State isn't part of this silliness. It means either that they've already passed similar legislation, or that the Dems are afraid that the rest of the counties would vote to join Idaho, too.

Posted by: mrp at August 23, 2024 05:50 PM (rj6Yv)

297 WA state is waiting till Fergueson is gov

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 23, 2024 05:58 PM (dDSBl)

298
It is a proven fact that ER docs are fucking psychopaths.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 23, 2024 05:15 PM

I would like to confirm your assertion without being sued.

So I got nothing to say, 'cept maybe it's not him but who he married who is the issue.

But maybe the 'vax' destroyed this family. Heartbreaking story.

It's somewhere between he and she. I won't mention Fauci who should be tarred and feathered and run out on a rail.

Multiply the story by a million other people who don't wanna point fingers.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 23, 2024 06:06 PM (RKVpM)

299 The whole point of this is to blow up the residential housing market and create lots of foreclosed properties that are available for purchase by the mega-real estate investors like Black Rock.

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