Judge: "Geofence" Data, of the Kind Used by Federal Investigators to Mass-Surveil Anyone In the Capital on January 6th, Is Protected by the Fourth Amendment

"Geofence data" refers to data about what phones were in a certain place. I guess the term comes from the idea that you can mark out a virtual "geofence" around the area you want to surveil, then demand that cell phone carriers turn over the phone data for everyone inside that "geofence."

This was used extensively to surveil, harass, and then prosecute J6 political prisoners.

And a judge has just ruled that such data is protected by the Fourth Amendment, and that warrants to grab the data on everyone inside such a "geofence" is unconstitutional.

Notice he's saying that even with a warrant, grabbing all of this data so promiscuously about thousands of people whose names you don't even know and therefore have no actual reason to suspect of any crime is unconstitutional. He's saying you cannot just get a mass-warrant to invade the privacy of everyone in a place.

Just knowing that a crime was committed somewhere inside a large area is not sufficiently particularized information enough to sustain a warrant.

Note that this case is not about the J6 political prisoners, but such a ruling would be extremely helpful to them, if it's upheld on review by the Supreme Court.

Via DougP. at Twitchy:

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
Interesting--Fifth Circuit just ruled that geofence warrants violate 4A. Recall the FBI sought and received a Google geofence warrant on Jan 6, 2021.
INTO MY VEINS JUDGE HO (Trump appointee, on short list for SCOTUS, Trump chose ACB instead)

The important language there:

Geofence warrants are powerful tools for investigating and deterring crime. The defendants here engaged in a violent robbery--and likely would have gotten away with it, but for this new technology. So I fully recognize that our panel decision today will inevitably hamper legitimate law enforcement interests. But hamstringing the government is the whole point of our Constitution. Our Founders recognized that the government will not always be comprised of publicly-spirited officers--and that even good faith actors can be overcome by the zealous pursuit of legitimate public interests. "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." THE FEDERALIST No. 51, at 349 (J. Cooke ed. 1961). "If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." Id. But "experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions." Id. It's because of "human nature" that it's "necessary to control the abuses of government." Id.

The Fifth Circuit says this kind of mass-warrant is illegal, but the 4th Circuit gave its blessing to mass-demanding personal information about thousands at once. And maybe millions of people -- once you bless this kind of warrant, you can make the "geofence" as big as you like. Why not make it the size of an entire city? Or state?

Or country?

With the circuits splitting, it will be up to the Supreme Court to resolve the circuit split.

Which means ACB and John Roberts will once again team up to shred the Constitution.

ACB is the Sandra Day O'Connor of John Roberts of David Souters.

The full ruling is here.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:33 PM

Comments

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1 So everyone will be freed from the gulag, right?

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:34 PM (BgmlQ)

2 Oh, and SPONGE!

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:35 PM (BgmlQ)

3 ITS A TAX!!!!

Posted by: Redenzo at August 15, 2024 05:36 PM (V/pbu)

4 This should get a lot of people out of jail or their convictions vacated. Should.

Posted by: huerfano at August 15, 2024 05:36 PM (VGOMa)

5 Oh good, now the pipe bomb story can be dropped.

Whew!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:36 PM (mnOhf)

6 Trying to understand this and what it means

Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2024 05:37 PM (fwDg9)

7 put that highlighted text on a tshirt

Posted by: brak at August 15, 2024 05:37 PM (NGHTx)

8 I’m supposed to yell “But Gorsuch!”

Posted by: electronic means at August 15, 2024 05:37 PM (yAL3Q)

9 I'm not defending her but I think the left successfully intimidated her

Posted by: steevy at August 15, 2024 05:38 PM (HJ9BW)

10 Top 17?!?

Posted by: Grayman27 at August 15, 2024 05:39 PM (pgwxJ)

11 INTO MY VEINS JUDGE HO (Trump appointee, on short list for SCOTUS, Trump chose ACB instead)

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Crap, that sucks.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (wITY7)

12 Wait, a court actually came out and said hamstringing government was the whole purpose of the Constitution?

when did the obvious become discernible to a judge?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (tT6L1)

13 Good.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (WTFYU)

14 But hamstringing the government is the whole point of our Constitution.

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: blaster at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (QfvaV)

15 Imagine if there was a gang shooting in a black neighborhood, and the police department did this type of thing on everyone who was in the area. Think liberals would be so sanguine about that?

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (tRd71)

16 Trying to understand this and what it means
Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2024 05:37 PM (fwDg9)

Sound and fury, told by idiots, signifying BOHICA.

Even if this shit were 100% illegal and punishable by death, they'd still do it anyway as a surveillance and intelligence tool, and find some other bullshit to pad their kangaroo cases with in their kangaroo trials.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (BAEGB)

17 I'm not defending her but I think the left successfully intimidated her

yep

Posted by: brak at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (NGHTx)

18 I read this earlier but I am still confused. If this ruling sticks with SCOTUS does it mean that everyone that was not inside the capitol on January 6th and was located using the geofence stuff has their convictions overturned?

I seem to recall that if someone takes a plea deal and new evidence comes to light they are fvcked because they have already plead guilty to a crime.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (QNSds)

19 Which might not mean anything to the DC courts and their Court of Appeals.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (krQz2)

20 INTO MY VEINS JUDGE HO (Trump appointee, on short list for SCOTUS, Trump chose ACB instead)

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Crap, that sucks.

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I don't remember the exact timing but I'd almost guarantee it was during the #MeToo nonsense.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (mnOhf)

21 Willowed:
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Biden is telling supporters to find Republicans and "beat the shit out of them".

Posted by: gourmand du jour
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In a mostly peaceful way, no doubt!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (krQz2)

22 Lauren Boebert's tat's just scream of *over-reaction*.

At least we have confirmation she's female.

Posted by: Crusader at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (U4ek1)

23 Just look at ACB’s eyes. All too often the litmus test is “Has she crazy eyes?”

Posted by: electronic means at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (yAL3Q)

24 Certain appeals court judges are also leaning toward declaring the use of pole cameras without a SW as a 4th Amendment violation.

Posted by: Grayman27 at August 15, 2024 05:42 PM (pgwxJ)

25 Some of us sounded the alarm on ACB. But too many others were desperate to win the abortion issue, and that was that. How’s that working out for you? Never pick single-issue jurists. Never.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 15, 2024 05:42 PM (MRyHq)

26 1 So everyone will be freed from the gulag, right?
Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:34 PM (BgmlQ)

I think SCOTUS will have to resolve the split first.

Expect John Roberts to try and split the baby - “in normal circumstances it’s unconstitutional, but in extreme circumstances it’s ok”. But then not give any test or guidelines about what “extreme” means. Never mind the contradiction about it being unconstitutional in normal but not extraordinary circumstances.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at August 15, 2024 05:42 PM (WTFYU)

27 Don't geofence me in

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 15, 2024 05:43 PM (Aqu9a)

28 "Geofence" Data, of the Kind Used by Federal Investigators to Mass-Surveil Anyone In the Capital on January 6th, Is Protected by the Fourth Amendment

Ace, I initially thought that your headline was confusing. I initially that the mass surveillance was "protected," and therefore constitutional. My eye skipped over the word "data."

Perhaps consider rewording? Or maybe, per Doof, I'm just obtuse,

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 15, 2024 05:43 PM (v6JzV)

29 There is a reason ACB got comfirmed.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:43 PM (BAEGB)

30 Draw a geo fence around the Acela Corridor.

You don't need judges and cops to spot the criminals. Just a pair of eyes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 15, 2024 05:43 PM (0FoWg)

31 "But Hamstringing the Government is the whole point of our Constitution." I'll be damned.

Posted by: Why Are You Surprised at August 15, 2024 05:41 PM (K7lOr)
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And that is precisely what the rest of the whole fascist world hates.

The government should NEVER be limited for the GOOD of the PEOPLE!

Look at the People's Republic of China!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (krQz2)

32 we all damn well the government spooks will not respect any barriers to their means and methods to spy on us

Posted by: DanMan at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (8uzBS)

33 So now what?

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (8pW8Z)

34 >> Some of us sounded the alarm on ACB.
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She’s going to be a real problem going forward. Corporatist from southern aristocratic stock.

Posted by: electronic means at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (yAL3Q)

35 How do they think Geofencing gets around a Terrry stop?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (HrzNk)

36 all know damn well

Posted by: DanMan at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (8uzBS)

37 If ACB is intimidated, she's a pussy. Someone came to Kavanaugh's house to assassinate him, and he still has marginally more spine than her.

We shouldn't be putting women on the Court. There's no guarantee with any nominee, but a woman is more likely to be a compromiser (because women, generally speaking, value consensus and group harmony more than men).

Posted by: Kavanaugh Ain't Exactly A He-Man Jurist at August 15, 2024 05:44 PM (95pnt)

38 This should get a lot of people out of jail

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 15, 2024 05:45 PM (tMaaq)

39 As the song says, as far as scouts picks for Trump goes, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

Posted by: Hey now at August 15, 2024 05:45 PM (Me52O)

40 Some of us sounded the alarm on ACB. But too many others were desperate to win the abortion issue, and that was that. How’s that working out for you? Never pick single-issue jurists. Never.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 15, 2024 05:42 PM (MRyHq)
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Textualism is not a single issue. So, if she wasn't chosen as a textualist, then yeah.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:45 PM (krQz2)

41 This one should be a no-brainer. Such mass collection of data obviously does not meet the 4th amendment requirement for a particularized list of persons, objects, things, etc., to be searched.
So, could be iffy with the dummies on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at August 15, 2024 05:45 PM (XMwZJ)

42 Oh my gosh, I was waiting for a no woman comment! Thanks for not disappointing me.

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (BgmlQ)

43 This should get a lot of people out of jail

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 15, 2024 05:45 PM (tMaaq)
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Eh *crunch crunch crunch* we'll see about that, Doc!

Posted by: DC Court of Appeals at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (krQz2)

44 "Imagine if there was a gang shooting in a black neighborhood..."

Shot spotter technology is very good at locating the whereabouts of a shooter, which why places like Oakland and Los Angeles have restricted its use or have forbade it altogether.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (MeG8a)

45 My guess would be the government would say Honesty they won't do it again but turn around and do it again

Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (fwDg9)

46 45 Oh my gosh, I was waiting for a no woman comment! Thanks for not disappointing me.
Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (BgmlQ)

No LIBERAL women

Posted by: It's me donna at August 15, 2024 05:47 PM (IyPmt)

47 >>> Geofence" Data, of the Kind Used by Federal Investigators to Mass-Surveil Anyone In the Capital on January 6th, Is Protected by the Fourth Amendment

It's a general search.
Not looking for s specific person, but searching everybody in area 'x' regardless of their presumed innocence.

Not at all unlike a cordon and search under martial law.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 15, 2024 05:47 PM (cOq4q)

48 Stop noticing things!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:47 PM (mnOhf)

49 47 The Brits are doing that again! This time with social media

Posted by: steevy at August 15, 2024 05:47 PM (HJ9BW)

50 A climate hysteric was "punched in the face" by a Citibank security guard.

Actually not punched, but dove to the floor like LeBron in a contract year.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (wBaIH)

51 Twitter/X's AI predicting how Harris will explain how inflation works:

Inflation is when your dollar decides to go on a diet, and it loses weight, so it buys less. My plan? We're going to feed those dollars, make them plump again. How? By ensuring every dollar gets a little hat, a tiny hat that says 'I'm worth more now.' And for those who say, 'Kamala, that's not how economics works,' I say, watch me! We'll have a dollar parade, where every dollar feels valued, and voila, inflation's gone! Remember, it's all about the hat."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (avPVA)

52 Supreme Court must immediately uphold legalities of geoduck fencing so that all MAGA insurrectionists can be jailed forever and ever with extra ever.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, VP of Customer Relations, Brattleboro No-Kill Animal Shelter and Abortion Clinic at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (95pnt)

53 take small victories where you can

Posted by: Don Black at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (/7KEl)

54
Won't some Judge in Hawaii make a judgement that will put this on hold?

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (+oR7L)

55
>>>I think she put that out there because Anna Luna was being criticized for a bathing suit picture from 2016 in which she looks mighty good
Posted by: It's me donna
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Pic confirms she looks like a tramp.
Posted by: Braenyard

You really need to stop being a homo.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (URgs5)

56 Stop noticing things!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:47 PM

Your zipper is down.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (avPVA)

57 There are women on this blog?

Fine, I'll put on a tie and comb my hair.

It's the least I can do.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (tT6L1)

58 56 Supreme Court must immediately uphold legalities of geoduck fencing so that all MAGA insurrectionists can be jailed forever and ever with extra ever.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, VP of Customer Relations, Brattleboro No-Kill Animal Shelter and Abortion Clinic at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (95pnt)

At least one has been held since 2021 with no trial

Posted by: It's me donna at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (IyPmt)

59 the idea of the War on Drugs.
Posted by: Why Are You Surprised

"Drugs" is just another word for "people we don't like". At some point, everybody is somebody someone in power doesn't like.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (KAi1n)

60 When a cop wants to search your house or more commonly, your car, only a fool allows them to do so without a warrant. Cops use the old worn out phrase - do you have something that you don't want me to see? If you have nothing illegal in here, you have nothing to worry about. Officer, you and I are strangers and I have no reason to TRUST YOU, so I'll wait while you get a warrant.

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (oiNtH)

61 Ace, I initially thought that your headline was confusing. I initially that the mass surveillance was "protected," and therefore constitutional. My eye skipped over the word "data."

Perhaps consider rewording? Or maybe, per Doof, I'm just obtuse,
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I thought the government was trying to claim fourth amendment rights to keep the data hidden. But then again, I am driving, so it's a little hard to read as deeply as need be.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (HrzNk)

62 >> Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 15, 2024 05:48 PM (avPVA)

Better than what she will actually say.

Posted by: electronic means at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (yAL3Q)

63
Anyone on "our side" who has a problem with a woman in a bikini should just leave and star their own Puritan Party.

Amish fags, the lot of them.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (URgs5)

64 SOMEBODY coated Trumps mic and suit with something that attracted the flies they let loose...

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (5AVMW)

65 Trump is taking questions and answering all of them off the cuff. Very few can do that. Reagan was able to do it, anybody know of another president that could?

Posted by: DanMan at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (8uzBS)

66
And just like the Amish, they're hypocrites.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (URgs5)

67 50 45 Oh my gosh, I was waiting for a no woman comment! Thanks for not disappointing me.
Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (BgmlQ)

No LIBERAL women
Posted by: It's me donna at August 15

I think we found a Halloween costume! We need purple wigs. But I agree, I don’t think the comment was limited to liberals though. Plus, I don’t want a liberal man, either. Merrick Garland? Can you imagine?

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (BgmlQ)

68 29 1 So everyone will be freed from the gulag, right?
Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:34 PM (BgmlQ)

I think SCOTUS will have to resolve the split first.

Expect John Roberts to try and split the baby - “in normal circumstances it’s unconstitutional, but in extreme circumstances it’s ok”. But then not give any test or guidelines about what “extreme” means. Never mind the contradiction about it being unconstitutional in normal but not extraordinary circumstances.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
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Dunno, a search enveloping thousands of people and allowing them to be identified and geo located to find the one criminal runs into general warrant territory (which is forbidden by the 4th).

To get around that, the Court would have to push third party doctrine to the max and even there face specificity requirements for warrant validity.

To split the baby, you might get special places exception for sensitive areas that ordinary citizens can avoid being allowed to geofence search but not allowed outside of those circumstances.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (kW+z9)

69 Women congress critters aren’t allowed to be sexy? I don’t get the Luna issue.

Posted by: Hey now at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (Me52O)

70 Fucking Trumps people HAVE to look out for that fucking shit!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (5AVMW)

71 How do they think Geofencing gets around a Terrry stop?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

"His name wasn't Terry, so it's all good."

Posted by: SFGoth at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (KAi1n)

72 And just like the Amish, they're hypocrites.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (URgs5)

Lighten up, Francis

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (BAEGB)

73 That yellow highlighted sentence gives me wood.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (d9fT1)

74 67
Anyone on "our side" who has a problem with a woman in a bikini should just leave and star their own Puritan Party.

Amish fags, the lot of them.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Depends on what a 'woman' is. Pretty sure that soon, the Dems will put a trans in Congress of one sort or another.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (kW+z9)

75

Posted by: Why Are You Surprised at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM

WTF?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (QNSds)

76 Your zipper is down.

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It distracts from the pistol printing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (mnOhf)

77 (censored)

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 15, 2024 05:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

78 It distracts from the pistol printing.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (mnOhf)

"Open carry"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:52 PM (BAEGB)

79 I wonder if there is something a criminal could do to defeat a geofence search?

Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 05:52 PM (vFG9F)

80 To split the baby, you might get special places exception for sensitive areas that ordinary citizens can avoid being allowed to geofence search but not allowed outside of those circumstances.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (kW+z9)

"Allowed in and around sensitive government facilities."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2024 05:52 PM (d9fT1)

81 To split the baby, you might get special places exception for sensitive areas that ordinary citizens can avoid being allowed to geofence search but not allowed outside of those circumstances.
Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (kW+z9)

“It’s a tax!”

- John Roberts

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at August 15, 2024 05:52 PM (WTFYU)

82
Have we mentioned the 19th amendment yet? Don't wanna disappoint anyone who thinks we mention it in every thread.

Posted by: Not AWOLz at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (RKVpM)

83

Posted by: Why Are You Surprised at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM

What a dumb-dumb you are. Go away.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (5AVMW)

84 So, could be iffy with the dummies on the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

The libs of SCOTUS should want this if they weren't so politically compromised.

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (oiNtH)

85 There are women on this blog?
Fine, I'll put on a tie and comb my hair.
It's the least I can do.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM

Dood. You're not new here. They muchly prefer that first you bathe with Axe Body Wash, and then apply Lume deodorant, and then Hai Karate to strategic spots, before that.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (avPVA)

86 Posted by: Why Are You Surprised at August 15, 2024 05:46 PM (K7lOr)
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Speaking of Brits, saw this Brit, even at this hour, deriding Americans for thinking that *we* alone have Freedom of Speech.

He explained that in 19xx resolution passed by Parliament, British citizens were promised "Freedom of Speech", and here's the point where he again calls Americans childish. Because we refuse to realize that with the freedom comes a responsibility not to use it irresponsibly.

Sounds like the guy does not know the different between a right and a privilege.

He also doesn't understand that if the government reserves the power to classify your speech as having violated your "responsibility", then it's more like a tolerance of speech. Not a freedom.

Parliament *may* have written the words "freedom of speech", but that doesn't make it freedom.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (krQz2)

87 83 I wonder if there is something a criminal could do to defeat a geofence search?
Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 05:52 PM (vFG9F)

Don't bring your stupid phone to the crime place.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (BAEGB)

88 "83 I wonder if there is something a criminal could do to defeat a geofence search?"

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Turn off their cell phone and put it in a Faraday bag.

Posted by: Grayman27 at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (pgwxJ)

89 There are women on this blog?
Fine, I'll put on a tie and comb my hair.
It's the least I can do.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM
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What about pants?

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (krQz2)

90 At least one has been held since 2021 with no trial
Posted by: It's me donna

In Buffalo hat, guy is guilty as sin, and free as a bird.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (HrzNk)

91 69 Trump is taking questions and answering all of them off the cuff. Very few can do that. Reagan was able to do it, anybody know of another president that could?
Posted by: DanMan

Nixon and Kennedy come to mind. Even LBJ or Clinton. Ike was cagey enough at press conferences to confuse the issue but he was definitely in control. Even FDR and Truman did ok.

Mentally, the Dems have resorted more and more to fakery starting with Obama. Accelerated with Killary and put in on steroids with Biden and now Kamala. The Press and the DNC comm department are essentially synonymous.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (kW+z9)

92 There are women on this blog?

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Do any of them have long hair?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (mnOhf)

93 To get around that, the Court would have to push third party doctrine to the max and even there face specificity requirements for warrant validity.

To split the baby, you might get special places exception for sensitive areas that ordinary citizens can avoid being allowed to geofence search but not allowed outside of those circumstances.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM

My issue with the entire geo fence thingy was there was no warning and no indication that there was a restricted zone around the capitol building. The people assembled there had no idea they were committing a crime just by standing within XX yards of the capitol building inside of some invisible unmarked fence.

That information only came to light after the fact. IMO all of this should have been tossed based on that fact alone.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (QNSds)

94 The Marxists will just find another judge if one let's Jan6 Ralliers free.

Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (fwDg9)

95 Don't bring your stupid phone to the crime place.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (BAEGB)

Bring your enemy’s phone to the crime place!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (WTFYU)

96 Rule 37 of the internet. It’s real.

Posted by: electronic means at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (yAL3Q)

97 We have more specific intel that the FBI/SS were involved in an attempted assassination. Can we therefore collect their phones?

Oh, no, they have probably already smashed those pertinent phones with hammers, after bleach bitting them. Besides, the smashed remnants must be kept secret so as not to reveal "Our Precious Sources and Methods".

even more important to keep those sources/methods secret if they involve assassination planning.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (Cus5s)

98 It distracts from the pistol printing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (mnOhf)

Everybody knows you carry a .22LR.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (d9fT1)

99 A smart criminal would leave their phone on, at home.

Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (vFG9F)

100 if we nationalize the cell phone service, the government will own the data and won't need warrants!

Posted by: commiela at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (oY6Yp)

101 "Recall the FBI sought and received a Google geofence warrant on Jan 6, 2021."

Amazing the proficiency of the FBI there and not, say, when a President of the United States is shot in an assassination attempt.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 15, 2024 05:55 PM (aXxgO)

102 Plus, I don’t want a liberal man, either. Merrick Garland? Can you imagine?
Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM

What???? Give up on all that sensitivity AND the ability to intelligently discuss the difference between taupe and fawn?

P'shaw!

Posted by: Merrick G., HMFIC "I AM The Law!" at August 15, 2024 05:56 PM (avPVA)

103 I'm not defending her but I think the left successfully intimidated her

Posted by: steevy at August 15, 2024 05:38 PM (HJ9BW)

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Kavanaugh too.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 15, 2024 05:56 PM (wITY7)

104 Let's go Ho !

Let's go Ho !

Let's go Ho !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 15, 2024 05:56 PM (NtVYv)

105 I recall the SCOTUS saying in the immunity decision something about how they are not going to rely on the pinky promise of the DOJ to decide the issue fairly

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 15, 2024 05:56 PM (fVaTp)

106 And just like the Amish, they're hypocrites.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM (URgs5)
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Shhhh. You don't want to incite a wave of Amish terrorism!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:56 PM (krQz2)

107 Even if this shit were 100% illegal and punishable by death, they'd still do it anyway as a surveillance and intelligence tool, and find some other bullshit to pad their kangaroo cases with in their kangaroo trials.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2024 05:40 PM (BAEGB)

They'll still do it, it just can't be directly introduced as evidence. So they'll argue inevitable discovery, or use parallel construction or some other trick to get it in, as they already do for illegal searches.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 15, 2024 05:57 PM (VGRuw)

108 What about pants?
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (krQz2)
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Let's not be too hasty.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:57 PM (tT6L1)

109 102 We have more specific intel that the FBI/SS were involved in an attempted assassination. Can we therefore collect their phones?

Oh, no, they have probably already smashed those pertinent phones with hammers, after bleach bitting them. Besides, the smashed remnants must be kept secret so as not to reveal "Our Precious Sources and Methods".

what bugs me about the "big messaging system changeover" is that should be documents about lying around. contracts. all-hands e-mails reminding them of the switch. other foia-ble stuff like that. *somebody* should be asking for it. where's judicial watch when you need them?

Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 05:57 PM (oY6Yp)

110 I wonder if there is something a criminal could do to defeat a geofence search?"

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Turn off their cell phone and put it in a Faraday bag.
Posted by: Grayman27

Leave it at home, and carry a disposable burner.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 15, 2024 05:57 PM (HrzNk)

111 Plus, I don’t want a liberal man, either. Merrick Garland? Can you imagine?
Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 05:50 PM

What???? Give up on all that sensitivity AND the ability to intelligently discuss the difference between taupe and fawn?

P'shaw!
Posted by: Merrick G., HMFIC "I AM The Law!" at August 15, 2024 05:56 PM (avPVA)
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Snort.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:57 PM (tT6L1)

112
Don't get me started on the Amish.
And Mennonites.

Fcking weirdos.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (URgs5)

113 What a dumb-dumb you are. Go away.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 05:53 PM (5AVMW)

Is "Why are you surprised?" the man with many handles back again?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (dTTBf)

114 110 What about pants?
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (krQz2)
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Let's not be too hasty[/b.

for some reason, i read that as "pasty"

Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (oY6Yp)

115 d'oh!

Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (oY6Yp)

116
Fine, I'll put on a tie and comb my hair.

It's the least I can do.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (tT6L1)

________

*pssst!*

Pants too!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (1Nxff)

117 I pray, Heavenly Father, you keep this nation under Your abundant blessing and care through Your Son, our Lord and Savior. Amen.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (gxokI)

118
And the Jews with the curly-q's. Them, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (URgs5)

119 They ought to just draw perimeters around the Chesapeake Bay, Manhattan, Chicago, San Francisco, and parts of Los Angeles, and then just carpet bomb the rest of the country until nothing of it remains. That's really their dream.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (0FoWg)

120 anachronda with the save!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (tT6L1)

121 If you carry a cell phone you have zero expectation of privacy. Same for a smart watch. They have your location, your activities, maybe even your heart rate and pulse.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (MeG8a)

122 112 Leave it at home, and carry a disposable burner.

have you considered all the options burna has to offer?

Posted by: sean hannity at August 15, 2024 05:59 PM (oY6Yp)

123 Fine, I'll put on a tie and comb my hair.

It's the least I can do.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 05:49 PM (tT6L1)

________

*pssst!*

Pants too!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM (1Nxff)
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Fascist!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 05:59 PM (krQz2)

124
Grown men with Shirley Temple's curly-q's.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 05:59 PM (URgs5)

125 I elect Soothsayer as blog moderator

Posted by: DanMan at August 15, 2024 05:59 PM (8uzBS)

126
Do any of them have long hair?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (mnOhf)

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On their head, yes. This is a far-right blog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 05:59 PM (1Nxff)

127
Is "Why are you surprised?" the man with many handles back again?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 05:58 PM

It's just a little tiring when the 84 year old Joe Paterno supporting peeps reappear all the time.

Posted by: Not AWOLz at August 15, 2024 06:00 PM (RKVpM)

128 I'm not going to deal with this pants-centrism!

I'm going to let the pants fascists know what I think.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:00 PM (krQz2)

129 I've been on hold for 20 minutes trying to schedule a neuter appointment for Buckley...

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at August 15, 2024 06:01 PM (a5Jsm)

130 Fight the Pantstriarchy!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:01 PM (krQz2)

131
you can make the "geofence" as big as you like. Why not make it the size of an entire city? Or state?

Or country?

Or planet?

Posted by: Biggest Brother at August 15, 2024 06:01 PM (63Dwl)

132 This is an incredibly important issue. Like it or not we are entering the nexus of man and machine. If you like your lifestyle you have to accept the digital facts of life.

If people are allowed to interpret passively gathered data from a machine with the intent of taxing or bringing a criminal complaint against an individual then a truly free man must renounce this modern technology.

Posted by: pawn at August 15, 2024 06:01 PM (QB+5g)

133 Trump just went for an hour and a half; most of it without notes.

and no teleprompter

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 15, 2024 06:02 PM (fVaTp)

134 On their head, yes. This is a far-right blog.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 05:59 PM (1Nxff)
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Don't forget the handmaiden hair napkin or whatever it is.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:02 PM (tT6L1)

135 My issue with the entire geo fence thingy was there was no warning and no indication that there was a restricted zone around the capitol building. The people assembled there had no idea they were committing a crime just by standing within XX yards of the capitol building inside of some invisible unmarked fence.

That information only came to light after the fact. IMO all of this should have been tossed based on that fact alone.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Jan 6th is an interesting problem. The buildings and grounds are covered by the special places doctrine but primarily not to catch criminals. The special places distinction is to protect the legislature from harm done by those intent on carrying firearms, etc. to shoot up the place or bomb it like the PR terrorists did in the 50's or some splinter Weatherman Underground did in the 80's.

In that context, a geofence warrant would give protection of the legislature from contraband being used to harm them but simply indicate presence, legal or not, in that location. Then there is the reliability issue of geofencing.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:02 PM (kW+z9)

136 Ken Paxton was prescient to file his lawsuit against GM this week. He must have predicted this. Did y'all see where he boned Google for $1.4 billion last week? That goes to the already solvent general fund. Texas likes Paxton.

Posted by: DanMan at August 15, 2024 06:02 PM (8uzBS)

137 A couple of judges and the DOJ have indicated that if convictions are reversed based on a recent Supreme Court decision that they might increase sentencing based on other convictions. The geo fencing decision will throw a monkey wrench into that. However these totalitarian scum never stop

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 15, 2024 06:03 PM (gXGVH)

138 It distracts from the pistol printing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:51 PM (mnOhf)

Everybody knows you carry a .22LR.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

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Sometimes. A Bobcat to be precise. Mostly in the summertime, though.

Also I just realized my post appears to have been interpreted for something other than it was. I was just pointing out that having your zipper down would be a good distraction from a clip on a belt. Commenting about the other would be very out of character and I doubt an instance could be found.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 06:03 PM (mnOhf)

139
Don't forget the handmaiden hair napkin or whatever it is.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:02 PM (tT6L1)

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Mantilla >>>>> Hood

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (1Nxff)

140 Do any of them have long hair?

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On their head, yes. This is a far-right blog.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

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If anyone didn't see the ONT image last night it's worth a visit.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (mnOhf)

141 57 >>>I think she put that out there because Anna Luna was being criticized for a bathing suit picture from 2016 in which she looks mighty good
Posted by: It's me donna
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Pic confirms she looks like a tramp.
Posted by: Braenyard

anna luna status:

[_] gypsy
[X] tramp
[_] thief

Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (oY6Yp)

142 *Cuts phone wire*

Posted by: Buckley at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (2UnvF)

143 RSBN sure does get some cute reporters

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (fVaTp)

144 ‘ ACB is the Sandra Day O'Connor of John Roberts of David Souters.’

If you’re saying she’s a weak minded twat, I agree.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (PSCMO)

145 Amy Comey Barret is an institutionalist. If there is a way that she can say that an institution has asserted power "X" she will agree with it ON AN INTERLOCUTORY BASIS. However, not so much when the same case is judged on its merits. She is actually able to read and properly interpret the Bill of Rights. In other words she grants government institutions the benefit of the doubt while cases are still pending in the lower courts - like the TX border wire cutting case. But judges on the merits when the case has to be resolved by the Supreme Court.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 15, 2024 06:06 PM (Da7Vv)

146 Sounds like the guy does not know the different between a right and a privilege.

He also doesn't understand that if the government reserves the power to classify your speech as having violated your "responsibility", then it's more like a tolerance of speech. Not a freedom.

Parliament *may* have written the words "freedom of speech", but that doesn't make it freedom.
Posted by: Axeman
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Brits by and large are mentally caged themselves as subjects of the Crown and that attitude is pretty ingrained with rare exceptions.

In the Euro tradition, rights were granted by the king (and later parliament), not by nature. Whiggism and its attitudes are viewed as an aberration in British history over there. Now that Parliament has superceded the monarch as the locus of 'divine rule', parliamentary statute dictates what your rights are (see also PACE act in the 90's regarding rights of the accused).

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:07 PM (kW+z9)

147 >Is "Why are you surprised?" the man with many handles back again?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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IN FAIRNESS, that's him

Posted by: Don Black at August 15, 2024 06:09 PM (/7KEl)

148
anna luna status:

[_] gypsy
[X] tramp
[_] thief
Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (oY6Yp)

someone is crazy/and or blind

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at August 15, 2024 06:09 PM (iNp3L)

149 "But hamstringing the government is the whole point of our Constitution."

Should be tattooed on all law enforcement, personnel.

Posted by: javems at August 15, 2024 06:10 PM (8I4hW)

150 Brits by and large are mentally caged themselves as subjects of the Crown and that attitude is pretty ingrained with rare exceptions.

In the Euro tradition, rights were granted by the king (and later parliament), not by nature. Whiggism and its attitudes are viewed as an aberration in British history over there. Now that Parliament has superceded the monarch as the locus of 'divine rule', parliamentary statute dictates what your rights are (see also PACE act in the 90's regarding rights of the accused).

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:07 PM (kW+z9)
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So there's a well-known solo sexual activity I invite them to.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:10 PM (krQz2)

151 149. Nonsense. She is a pro life statist.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 15, 2024 06:10 PM (vsXBg)

152 PHI v NE 7pm EDT

Posted by: Don Black at August 15, 2024 06:10 PM (/7KEl)

153 148 anna luna status:

[_] gypsy
[X] tramp
[_] thief
Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 06:05 PM (oY6Yp)

someone is crazy/and or blind

or can't check from work

Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 06:11 PM (oY6Yp)

154 Anna Paulina Luna wasn’t in Congress at the time of the video. I didn’t realize this. Thank you, @it’s me Donna. My only very, teeny-tiny issue with it has been alleviated.

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 06:11 PM (pZEOD)

155 Do any of them have long hair?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 15, 2024 05:54 PM (mnOhf)

*raises hand

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 15, 2024 06:12 PM (OX9vb)

156
When you open your mailbox expecting a nine inch by twelve inch envelope with a fat packet of information from Penn State University and instead receive a four inch by six inch postal card with the words, "Hell No!!" on it... you're supposed to get over it.

Scoog never has.

Posted by: Not AWOLz at August 15, 2024 06:12 PM (RKVpM)

157 Is "Why are you surprised?" the man with many handles back again?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Apparently. BTW, if your son wants to go to grad school, I recommend Getting What You Came For. Cheap book about 14 bucks or so written by a Stanford professor about the travails of himself and other academic acquaintances.

Helps navigate the cloister rules of academia and the strange world of academics. The student aid portion is out of date but the rest is useful.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:12 PM (kW+z9)

158 Mister Scott: "My issue with the entire geo fence thingy was there was no warning and no indication that there was a restricted zone around the capitol building. The people assembled there had no idea they were committing a crime just by standing within XX yards of the capitol building inside of some invisible unmarked fence."

Even IF there were warnings/indications, they'd be hidden or camouflaged to NOT be seen. Think of meeting the Letter but not Spirit of any Law. Or, even more simply, the tow truck company that hides its posts in the branches of the parking lot tree. Yeah, the law was posted, but it was stillstrategically placed in order to entrap.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 15, 2024 06:13 PM (aXxgO)

159 "But hamstringing the government is the whole point of our Constitution."

Should be tattooed on all law enforcement, personnel.
Posted by: javems at August 15, 2024 06:10 PM (8I4hW)
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Scalia said that he'd given speeches and discussed the law in all kinds of venues across the world.

He said most of these states had "Constitutions" and "Bill of Rights", and many had what they called "representative government". But the thing that baffled them about Americans was: separation of powers.

They don't understand why you would limit government so that it can get things done "for the people".

With that power dynamic as regards State, the World is fascist.

America is the only state in the world that resists fascism.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:13 PM (krQz2)

160 Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:12 PM (kW+z9)

Thanks. He hasn't started looking it to that yet, but I appreciate the suggestion.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:14 PM (dTTBf)

161 "But Hamstringing the Government is the whole point of our Constitution."
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When in doubt, keep the government the hell out!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 15, 2024 06:15 PM (fs1hN)

162 With that power dynamic as regards State, the World is fascist.

America is the only state in the world that resists fascism.
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America is not exceptional.
-The Lightbringer

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 15, 2024 06:16 PM (fs1hN)

163
America is the only state in the world that resists fascism.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:13 PM

Poorly.

Elon is the only summa bitch with a set of balls who said, "Nope."

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 15, 2024 06:16 PM (RKVpM)

164
Mantilla on a man bun.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 15, 2024 06:16 PM (tMaaq)

165
Well well well, guessfuckingwhat,

The fake "Republicans for Harris" on twitter is fake. Shocking, I know!

Yeah, they're just Democrats cos-playing as their deranged idea of Republicans. Look at this faggot pretending to be veteran cowboy:

https://youtu.be/TKpVkkCTRKM?si=nkRnopkr_CKN71Ze&t=82

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:17 PM (URgs5)

166 I hope all of you know that the government does not need a warrant to "tap" any of your cell phone conversations. Cell Phones are RADIOS and anyone with proper receiver can legally listen in to everything you're saying - because you are BROADCASTING it. You have zero expectation of privacy in a cell phone communication.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 15, 2024 06:17 PM (Da7Vv)

167 "Hamstringing the government is the whole point of the Constitution."

Also . . .

"The Constitution is not a suicide pact."

Posted by: Sharkman at August 15, 2024 06:18 PM (/RHNq)

168
They put that Democrat old pervert faggot in a cowboy hat, sitting on the back of pickup truck, with a "farm" in the background.

Turns out he's a life-long cocksucking Democrat just LYING about being a Republican.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:19 PM (URgs5)

169 In my mind there's a reason that the left had to spread the idea that the non-left was "fascist" and spread it hard.

It's because they were so close to fascist, that they could not have that discerned.

Conservatives are fascist? Fascists believe that like everything, Children belong to the State.

Who in America says Children belong to the State?

Not fucking conservatives.

Conservatives and Traditionals think the State should serve them. Not that they should serve the State.

All that lefties are looking at is the social effect when the Nazis came in of shutting down all the perversion as excess (and there *was* quite a lot in Weimar Germany). That's all they care about--the fascists killed their orgy! Plus they were nationalists and dead set against international Marxism.

They were quite willing to implement Marx-like policies for the good of their own working class. But they followed Mussolini's skepticism that dissolving states was a way to a better future. (Mussolini was right.)

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:19 PM (krQz2)

170 166 I hope all of you know that the government does not need a warrant to "tap" any of your cell phone conversations. Cell Phones are RADIOS and anyone with proper receiver can legally listen in to everything you're saying - because you are BROADCASTING it. You have zero expectation of privacy in a cell phone communication.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president

They should be called cellradios instead?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (fs1hN)

171 Posted by: Don Black at August 15, 2024 06:09 PM (/7KEl)

"In fairness" is a different poster, I think. Actually, "Why are you surprised?" seems a little subdued to be Scogg.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (dTTBf)

172
btw, that "farmish" background is just the back parking lot of some place.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (URgs5)

173 They put that Democrat old pervert faggot in a cowboy hat, sitting on the back of pickup truck, with a "farm" in the background.

Turns out he's a life-long cocksucking Democrat just LYING about being a Republican.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:19 PM (URgs5)

OooooH! Tell me more!!!!

Posted by: Pete Butteplug at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (5AVMW)

174 Was there a premature post just now?

It's okay, Ace. It happens.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (kpS4V)

175
Mantilla on a man bun.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle

_________

Went to Mass this morning as it's a Holy Day of Obligation. It's rare to see a lady at my parish without a chapel veil.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 06:21 PM (1Nxff)

176 I had my phone tapped. A friend made a statement about a certain political figure.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 15, 2024 06:21 PM (nDGMq)

177 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (dTTBf)

Maybe stop fixating on trolls and let the moderators do their jobs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2024 06:21 PM (d9fT1)

178 166 I hope all of you know that the government does not need a warrant to "tap" any of your cell phone conversations. Cell Phones are RADIOS and anyone with proper receiver can legally listen in to everything you're saying - because you are BROADCASTING it. You have zero expectation of privacy in a cell phone communication.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president

Ah yes, as explained in the Supreme Court's infamous decision In re Commenter Pulling Things Out of His Ass

Posted by: Le Sigh at August 15, 2024 06:22 PM (95pnt)

179 I had my phone "tapped" at a bar last night!

When I say "phone", I mean my loose asshole......

Posted by: Pete Butteplug at August 15, 2024 06:22 PM (5AVMW)

180 He said most of these states had "Constitutions" and "Bill of Rights", and many had what they called "representative government". But the thing that baffled them about Americans was: separation of powers.

They don't understand why you would limit government so that it can get things done "for the people".

Educate yourselves. Read some Hayek.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 15, 2024 06:22 PM (+myjY)

181
But I'm sure "Christians for Harris" is totes legit, though.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:23 PM (URgs5)

182 Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president

I hope they have a great time listening to my conversations. "Could you please get some milk at the store on your way home. dear?" "I'm sorry about your boss, ___ in the hospital." "Can I come over and see you tomorrow?"" (said to 97 year old former organist.) Earth shaking, subversive stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:23 PM (dTTBf)

183
"into My Veins?"

What? Is that a typo?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 15, 2024 06:24 PM (uz6ub)

184
165
Well well well, guessfuckingwhat,

The fake "Republicans for Harris" on twitter is fake. Shocking, I know!

Yeah, they're just Democrats cos-playing as their deranged idea of Republicans. Look at this faggot pretending to be veteran cowboy:

https://youtu.be/TKpVkkCTRKM?si=nkRnopkr_CKN71Ze&t=82
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06

Wait, he wants us to believe he is 56?

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 06:24 PM (p4NUW)

185 Lookee here - WaPo article from 2019 -

When Americans loved Benito Mussolini — and what it tells us about Donald Trump’s rise
....
Many readers may be surprised to learn of the remarkably positive American response to Mussolini, known as Il Duce, following the 1922 March on Rome, the mass demonstration of Fascist troops that led Italy’s king to appoint Mussolini as prime minister. Even though Mussolini had fierce detractors among American journalists and political commentators, a wide range of powerful individuals and mainstream media outlets publicly voiced their enthusiastic admiration for his governance style and persona.
....

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 15, 2024 06:24 PM (fs1hN)

186 Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:23 PM (URgs5)

The one I liked was "Evangelicals for Harris/Walz" Uhh huh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:25 PM (dTTBf)

187 177 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (dTTBf)

Maybe stop fixating on trolls and let the moderators do their jobs.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2024 06:21 PM (d9fT1)

Nobody is fixating on anything, just a comment or two about a fool, not like anyone pasted its foolishness.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:25 PM (5AVMW)

188
I hope all of you know that the government does not need a warrant to "tap" any of your cell phone conversations. Cell Phones are RADIOS and anyone with proper receiver can legally listen in to everything you're saying - because you are BROADCASTING it. You have zero expectation of privacy in a cell phone communication.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 15, 2024

I know. When the stupid DIE/DEI woman from the NY law firm "representing me" in the Boy Scouts of America sexual abuse case called from her home - with children playing in the background - to ask for my SS number over the cell phone I decided the so-called 'award' was less then the risk. Sorry, one third of nothing is nothing - and that law firm gets nothing. I got nothing. Better then being forever insulted with some pittance when they (BSA) had more then enough assets to make it right. But decided not to.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 15, 2024 06:25 PM (RKVpM)

189 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2024 06:21 PM (d9fT1)

Just interested in the writing style.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (dTTBf)

190
Wait, he wants us to believe he is 56?
Posted by: Piper

That's the only part that's true!

Really.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (URgs5)

191 165
Well well well, guessfuckingwhat,

The fake "Republicans for Harris" on twitter is fake.
___

So even their Fake Republicans are fake -- Fake Fake Republicans.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (qUkBO)

192 Hampstering the government is the whole point of the Constitution.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (tMaaq)

193 Many readers may be surprised to learn of the remarkably positive American response to Mussolini, known as Il Duce, following the 1922 March on Rome, the mass demonstration of Fascist troops that led Italy’s king to appoint Mussolini as prime minister. Even though Mussolini had fierce detractors among American journalists and political commentators, a wide range of powerful individuals and mainstream media outlets publicly voiced their enthusiastic admiration for his governance style and persona.
....
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 15, 2024 06:24 PM (fs1hN)
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Historical literacy score: 0

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (tT6L1)

194 "White Dudes for Harris"...

Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

195 SSBN, past performance is indicative of future results

Posted by: Ben Had at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (nDGMq)

196
When Americans loved Benito Mussolini — and what it tells us about Donald Trump’s rise

_________

Mussolini was your standard-issue post-WWI strongman that Europe produced in great numbers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 06:27 PM (1Nxff)

197
Mantilla on a man bun.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty

You want fries with that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 15, 2024 06:27 PM (63Dwl)

198 Was there a premature post just now?

It's okay, Ace. It happens.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 15, 2024 06:20 PM (kpS4V)

And some bloggers can't get a post up at all.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 15, 2024 06:27 PM (+myjY)

199 195 SSBN, past performance is indicative of future results
Posted by: Ben Had at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (nDGMq)

Very true!

And yet, your mileage may vary!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:28 PM (5AVMW)

200 America is the only state in the world that resists fascism.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:13 PM

Poorly.

Elon is the only summa bitch with a set of balls who said, "Nope."

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 15, 2024 06:16 PM (RKVpM)
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Poorly.

But if I think of the main hurdle to correcting that course, it's that our intelligencia decided to propagandize that the most horrendous regime ever seen on the planet was a type of conservatism.

But you can see the pattern over and over. Jim Jones was an atheist socialist, but they never stopped emphasized "Reverend". The Democrats presided over the Red Scare for almost 50 years, started off shortly after Wilson left office, from my recent reading.

But when they found a single Republican they could pin it to, it became "McCarthyism" that was the problem.

McCarthy's end was going after embedded "communists" in the military. Recently I read an open letter from a guy who says he went into the military despising McCarthy as over-the-top. However, the quickly found out the military was rife with commies.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:28 PM (krQz2)

201
The one I liked was "Evangelicals for Harris/Walz" Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I have no doubt they'll be telling Jesus would vote for harris, just like they told Jesus would want obamacare, and Jesus would want the green new deal.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:28 PM (URgs5)

202 Many readers may be surprised to learn of the remarkably positive American response to Mussolini...

Why do you suppose that is, WaPo, any guesses?

...wide range of powerful individuals and mainstream media outlets publicly voiced their enthusiastic admiration for his governance style and persona.

I wonder who they were? Maybe WaPo will reveal the names of these powerful individuals and mainstream media outlets? WaPo maybe one of them?

Nope. It was fascist spycraft and toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 15, 2024 06:28 PM (fs1hN)

203 And some bloggers can't get a post up at all.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 15, 2024 06:27 PM (+myjY)
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Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:28 PM (krQz2)

204 So there's a well-known solo sexual activity I invite them to.
Posted by: Axeman

I feel pity for them. A quote by Lord Grey comes to mind, "The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time"

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:29 PM (kW+z9)

205 190
Wait, he wants us to believe he is 56?
Posted by: Piper

That's the only part that's true!

Really.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024

I must be one of those super agers Biden was hoping he is. I am a mere 3 years from that and I look NOTHING like this. Or maybe denial. But I dint think so!

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 06:29 PM (p4NUW)

206 Oven's pre-heated, pizza going in!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:29 PM (5AVMW)

207 "166 I hope all of you know that the government does not need a warrant to "tap" any of your cell phone conversations"

Now do wifi.

Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 06:29 PM (vFG9F)

208 Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

Walter Payton!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (Ad8y9)

209 David French claims to be an evengelical for Harris, I believe.

Of course, David went insane right about 2016 which means the screed Ace linked yesterday is merely that: The ranting of an unhinged mind.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (tT6L1)

210
Oven's pre-heated, pizza going in!
Posted by: SSBN 656

Digiornios?

Mama Celeste?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (URgs5)

211 I thought we were living on a Prison Planet?
The Authorities can suck my balls.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (e4dPB)

212 Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

Walter Payton!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (Ad8y9)
---
Eric Dickerson!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (krQz2)

213 Mussolini said that Italian American women like my Nonna should donate their gold wedding rings to the cause.

Instead she sent her two sons to bomb the shit out of him. One lost both his legs, the other lost his mind (shell shock).

So fuck your own face WaPo and your faggot EU pals.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (wBaIH)

214 W hy would I waste a never to be regained moment of my life on French

Posted by: Ben Had at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (nDGMq)

215 Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Why is it legal for G and A and T to sell the data to Big Govt?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 15, 2024 06:32 PM (gbOdA)

216 Personally, I'm finding The Daily Mail is preferable to Democratic Underground, entertainment-wise.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 15, 2024 06:32 PM (avPVA)

217 Digiornios?

Mama Celeste?
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (URgs5)

DiGiornios, Stuffed Crust!!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:32 PM (5AVMW)

218
When Americans loved Benito Mussolini — and what it tells us about Donald Trump’s rise

When American Liberals loved Hitler (right up until Summer of 1941 and Operation Barbarossa) - and what it tells us about Kamala Harris's rise...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 15, 2024 06:32 PM (y9nCu)

219 Wait, didn't the left try to invalidate the reliance on geofencing when they argued against the findings in 2000 Mules?

They said GPS tracking was not reliable enough within 100 ft to prove someone was within proximity of an outdoor ballot dropbox.

And suddenly it's protected by the 4th amendment?

I guess they just sweep that under the rug because Trump.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (t5Fno)

220 Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

Walter Payton!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (Ad8y9)
---
Eric Dickerson!
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (krQz2)

Anna Navarro

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (NtVYv)

221 212 Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

Walter Payton!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (Ad8y9)
---
Eric Dickerson!
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (krQz2)

Thurman Thomas!!!

Now all of you shut it!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (5AVMW)

222 When Americans loved Benito Mussolini — and what it tells us about Donald Trump’s rise
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Um. FDR is a better parallel.

Assholes.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (krQz2)

223
Oven's pre-heated, pizza going in!
Posted by: SSBN 656

Digiornios?

Mama Celeste?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM

They could be the 'gateway drug' to actual homemade.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (RKVpM)

224 Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:28 PM (URgs5)

Because Jesus is just like a 21st century left. "Let the little children come onto me" reallymeant that he would take them in for their transgender surgery if he lived now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (dTTBf)

225
Step 1: Take shower
Step 2: Fire up grill
Step 3: Cook ribeyes

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (1Nxff)

226
I like the thin-crust Digiornos, the regular crust is gut-busting.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (URgs5)

227 Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

Walter Payton!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (Ad8y9)
---
Eric Dickerson!
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (krQz2)

Anna Navarro
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 15, 2024 06:33 PM (NtVYv)
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The Fridge?

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (krQz2)

228 Tony's is also a great frozen pizza...so cheap, yet so tasty!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (5AVMW)

229 Guess I should spice up the chicken breast. Asparagus, brown rice / quinoa blend and grilled chicken breast over here. Ready in about an hour!

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (pZEOD)

230 Did Thurman Thomas.ever.find his helmet for the Super Bowl?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (wBaIH)

231 McCarthy's end was going after embedded "communists" in the military. Recently I read an open letter from a guy who says he went into the military despising McCarthy as over-the-top. However, the quickly found out the military was rife with commies.
Posted by: Axeman
=========
Not surprising. Military life is authoritarian by nature and much of life on post is highly regulated as are social activities. Easy to see how some come to believe that is the way to organized human society.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM (kW+z9)

232 The Fridge?
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (krQz2)

LOLOLOL!!!!

Too bad the big man was a lineman, not a back!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM (5AVMW)

233 So even their Fake Republicans are fake -- Fake Fake Republicans.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM

This truly is the story of David French.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM (ewjUl)

234 "Elon is the only summa bitch with a set of balls who said, "Nope."

"They" still need Elon to rescue their astronauts, stranded by NASA.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM (Cus5s)

235 When Americans loved Benito Mussolini — and what it tells us about Donald Trump’s rise

Wait. Did Mussolini have a first term in office that I missed?

One where he drove down unemployment, reduced Italian taxes, gained control of illegal immigration into Italy, presided over a roaring Italian economy, defanged Italy's enemies and brought peace to the Middle East?

One where he jailed no one, attempted to reign in the rogue state apparatus that was using the arms of government against its political opponents? Eschewed all government collusion in censoring his detractors?

If he did, then I agree with WaPo that Trump is indeed a Mussolini and we must do something about it NOW.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM (+myjY)

236 "INTO MY VEINS JUDGE HO (Trump appointee, on short list for SCOTUS, Trump chose ACB instead)"

Well, *someone* needs to replace Thomas once he retires...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM (SPZSI)

237 230 Did Thurman Thomas.ever.find his helmet for the Super Bowl?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (wBaIH)

Cheap shot, but the facts make me have to allow it......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:36 PM (5AVMW)

238 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (tT6L1)

I haven't read enough of David French to know what his religious opinions are or if he attends a church, but he does seem like an angry fellow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2024 06:36 PM (dTTBf)

239 Piper, top the chicken breast with wilted spinach, basil, mushrooms tossed with shredded parmesan

Posted by: Ben Had at August 15, 2024 06:36 PM (nDGMq)

240 This is what the idiot mayor here has done:

"Macon Mayor Lester Miller announced a partnership with local coalitions Georgia STOMP, Georgia Women and Those Who Stand with Us, along with Macon Periods Easier to provide free hygiene products within women's restrooms of county-owned buildings.

"Period products should not be a luxury," Miller said. "No girl or woman should have to struggle to get the supplies they need each month for something they cannot control. Unfortunately, period poverty is real across the world, and right here in Macon-Bibb County."

Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 06:36 PM (vFG9F)

241 228 Tony's is also a great frozen pizza...so cheap, yet so tasty!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:34 PM (5AVMW)

I haven't had it in a long time, like several years, but I will cop to liking Tombstone.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 15, 2024 06:37 PM (OX9vb)

242 You heard it here first folks. Period poverty is real.

Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 06:37 PM (vFG9F)

243 Invade Ethiopia now!

Posted by: More MAGA Than Thou at August 15, 2024 06:37 PM (95pnt)

244 235 Wait. Did Mussolini have a first term in office that I missed?

One where he drove down unemployment, reduced Italian taxes, gained control of illegal immigration into Italy, presided over a roaring Italian economy, defanged Italy's enemies and brought peace to the Middle East?

don't forget making the trains run on time

Posted by: anachronda at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (oY6Yp)

245 239 Piper, top the chicken breast with wilted spinach, basil, mushrooms tossed with shredded parmesan
Posted by: Ben Had at August 15, 2024 06:36 PM (nDGMq)

Oh, shit, I want that for my pizza!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (5AVMW)

246 Jim Brown

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (gXGVH)

247 I don't know if Trump was so much a federalist when he first threw his hat in the Republican ring.

But I know in his inauguration ("dark speech"), he praised federalism and right-sizing government.

Americans just have to learn that liberals lie about *every* fucking thing. And not just in general, but down to the microscopic level, they coat the molecules in lies.

(At one time, I thought I'd NEVER be the kind of guy to write that above paragraph. But my review of politics and history and all of it leave me without recourse.)

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (krQz2)

248 I hope it only applies to a fishing expedition of possible suspects instead of request for phone records of a specific suspect.

I don’t think anything is wrong with the second scenario while everything is wrong with the first scenario.

Posted by: polynikes at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (B1dzx)

249 I haven't read enough of David French to know what his religious opinions are or if he attends a church, but he does seem like an angry fellow.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
============
Pride goeth before a fall and all that. He has sold out to enemies of the common people and decency and probably it broke him inside when he did that.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:39 PM (kW+z9)

250 239 Piper, top the chicken breast with wilted spinach, basil, mushrooms tossed with shredded parmesan
Posted by: Ben Had at August 15

(Don’t tell anyone, but I hate mushrooms).

The spinach, basil and a little parm is happening, though! Thank you!

Posted by: Piper at August 15, 2024 06:39 PM (pZEOD)

251 I haven't had it in a long time, like several years, but I will cop to liking Tombstone.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 15, 2024 06:37 PM (OX9vb)

Samesies! Tombstone is one step up from Tony, but just as good!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:39 PM (5AVMW)

252
"Elon is the only summa bitch with a set of balls who said, "Nope."

"They" still need Elon to rescue their astronauts, stranded by NASA.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 15, 2024 06:35 PM

Which is exactly why the hard core leftists are being told to STFU and STFD. Which they do not want to do.

I've seen Elon's security. Quite respectable.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 15, 2024 06:39 PM (RKVpM)

253 You heard it here first folks. Period poverty is real.
Posted by: fd at August 15, 2024 06:37 PM (vFG9F)
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Yes. Too many XYs can't get a period.

And you know, there are a lot of people in America who don't even CARE!

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:39 PM (krQz2)

254 so cheap, yet so tasty!

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 15, 2024 06:40 PM (tMaaq)

255 America is the only state in the world that resists fascism.
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:13 PM (krQz2)

Alexander Hamilton's vision of America, and later Henry Clay's American System were all forms that were amenable to fascism, in that they seeked to pull power to the central government, and support industries and develop infrastructure in return for industries's support. As it was conceived, fascism was very similar and in ways much more "efficient"

I recently listened to a lecture that had a side discussion on how the "robber barons" like the Rockefellers, Carnegies and the Harrimans all were boosters of Americans and America under the later development of "the American System", but in part they were being subsidized for their support, right up until they weren't
But it was a system that sought to combine state and private as a single system, as opposed to the Jeffersonian ideal with a weak government and decentralized power focusing on Agriculture and manufacture as far as it could find a market.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 15, 2024 06:40 PM (D7oie)

256 FenelonSpoke: "I hope they have a great time listening to my conversations..."

Still not really the point. Doesn't matter that it's uninteresting stuff. It's not their's to hear. It's mine. I own it. They're my thoughts to words. I have a selected audience that has my permission. The government has no right to hear, intercede, judge, or act on any of it without explicit, justified powers.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 15, 2024 06:40 PM (aXxgO)

257 Piper? Did you get your vacuum cord fixed? It really is quite simple. Here is a short ewetoob video to walk you through it.

https://www.youtube.com / watch?v=f_Fpwp6YbJw

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 15, 2024 06:40 PM (MsrgL)

258 "Americans just have to learn that liberals lie about *every* fucking thing. And not just in general, but down to the microscopic level, they coat the molecules in lies."

Right, you catch them in the one big lie in a statement, but miss the ten other subliminal lies, or nuanced lies, or implied lies.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 15, 2024 06:41 PM (Cus5s)

259 Yes, Franco Harris was one of the best running backs the NFL has ever seen!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 15, 2024 06:26 PM (5AVMW)

Walter Payton!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 15, 2024 06:30 PM (Ad8y9)
---
Eric Dickerson!
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:31 PM (krQz2)

Thurman Thomas!!!

Now all of you shut it!!!
--------------

Good grief. The best running back of all time was Barry Sanders.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:41 PM (tT6L1)

260 Barry Sanders is the Barry Sanders of Barry Sanders.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 15, 2024 06:41 PM (e4dPB)

261 4 so cheap, yet so tasty!

Used to date her.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 15, 2024 06:40 PM (tMaaq)

I remember YOU!!!!

Posted by: Horny Mama Celeste at August 15, 2024 06:41 PM (5AVMW)

262 Mussolini was a ultra Marxist who didn’t think it went far enough and thought nationalizing it would do the trick.

He was also a journalist so do the math.

Posted by: polynikes at August 15, 2024 06:42 PM (B1dzx)

263 nood
hot swimwear
NOT admiral akbar commenting

Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 15, 2024 06:42 PM (i0CiB)

264 The running back I would least want to try to tackle was Earl Campbell.

Posted by: polynikes at August 15, 2024 06:43 PM (B1dzx)

265 Good grief. The best running back of all time was Barry Sanders.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:41 PM (tT6L1)

Charlie Brown, AND Charles Schultz, both said that Thomas was the best.......

You want to keep arguing?

Posted by: Horny Mama Celeste at August 15, 2024 06:43 PM (5AVMW)

266 I haven't read enough of David French to know what his religious opinions are or if he attends a church, but he does seem like an angry fellow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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If you could look up "Concern Troll" in the dictionary, if it had a picture, his face would be perfect for it.

He is so disingenuous in politics I doubt he could do it with a clear conscience. So, even though I eschew "judging people's faith", I have no trust that he actually is the Christian that he says he is.

At one time, I was not too much of a Christian. I started reading the Bible and talking to Christians, partly in a way to manipulate them from their own book, if nothing else.

So I know how that works.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:43 PM (krQz2)

267 Alexander Hamilton's vision of America, and later Henry Clay's American System were all forms that were amenable to fascism, in that they seeked to pull power to the central government, and support industries and develop infrastructure in return for industries's support. As it was conceived, fascism was very similar and in ways much more "efficient"

I recently listened to a lecture that had a side discussion on how the "robber barons" like the Rockefellers, Carnegies and the Harrimans all were boosters of Americans and America under the later development of "the American System", but in part they were being subsidized for their support, right up until they weren't
But it was a system that sought to combine state and private as a single system, as opposed to the Jeffersonian ideal with a weak government and decentralized power focusing on Agriculture and manufacture as far as it could find a market.
Posted by: Kindltot
=======
I find corporate robber barons bad but the techlords of today are worse. Both relied on government letting them crush their opponents via fair or foul means but today's techlords are empowering and partnering with government to deny the rights of the people.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:44 PM (kW+z9)

268 Americans just have to learn that liberals lie about *every* fucking thing. And not just in general, but down to the microscopic level, they coat the molecules in lies.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (krQz2)

Do you have a newsletter? May I use your above characterization of liberals?

Posted by: Gref at August 15, 2024 06:44 PM (aBgBM)

269 Period Poverty?

You mean, like, Menstrual Malnutrition?

Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 15, 2024 06:44 PM (nX9Qc)

270 Pizzas almost done... I am satisfied........

Posted by: Horny Mama Celeste at August 15, 2024 06:44 PM (5AVMW)

271 Yeah this ruling if upheld by SCOTUS, a lot of cases will be overturned.

One of the earliest cases using geofencing resulting in conviction happened in the Ninth Circuit. It was only because they did a geofence for a specific time period did they find the murderer of an older woman. But there were a bunch of innocent wedding guests whose data was also scooped up.

Killer turned out to be a handyman she had hired to do some renovations.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 15, 2024 06:45 PM (H9y6N)

272 I hate being willowed .

Posted by: polynikes at August 15, 2024 06:45 PM (B1dzx)

273 Good grief. The best running back of all time was Barry Sanders.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:41 PM (tT6L1)
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As a life-long Lions fan (sympathy accepted) I feel it wasn't my place to mention him.

Plus there *are* downsides to having Barry Sanders on your team when you face off against the Top 3 defenses..

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:45 PM (krQz2)

274 Americans just have to learn that liberals lie about *every* fucking thing. And not just in general, but down to the microscopic level, they coat the molecules in lies.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:38 PM (krQz2)

Do you have a newsletter? May I use your above characterization of liberals?
Posted by: Gref at August 15, 2024 06:44 PM (aBgBM)
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No newsletter, but feel free.

Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:45 PM (krQz2)

275 Turns out he's a life-long cocksucking Democrat just LYING about being a Republican.

rose colored round specs kind of gives it away too

Posted by: DanMan at August 15, 2024 06:46 PM (8uzBS)

276 I put chorizo on my pizza. quite tasty.

Posted by: chango butt at August 15, 2024 06:46 PM (v1eJ7)

277 blake: "Good grief. The best running back of all time was Barry Sanders."

He was as good as there's ever been. Best? Yes. Tied for Best? Also yes, if other historic runners are in the mix. But no one was better.

I wish he didn't retire early even though he was never on "my" team. He was just fun to watch.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 15, 2024 06:47 PM (aXxgO)

278 Charlie Brown, AND Charles Schultz, both said that Thomas was the best.......

You want to keep arguing?
Posted by: Horny Mama Celeste at August 15, 2024 06:43 PM (5AVMW)
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I watched the team I followed, the Vikings, waste a lot of energy trying to stop him. The black and blue division was glad to see him retire.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 15, 2024 06:47 PM (tT6L1)

279 264 The running back I would least want to try to tackle was Earl Campbell.
Posted by: polynikes

Donnie Shell (Steelers safety in the 70s) manage to knock Campbell out of a game once. Nobody remembers the name of the Bengals LB that pretty much ended Bo Jackson's football career on a fluky tackle. Odd things happen in football.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 15, 2024 06:47 PM (gllTv)

280 The running back I would least want to try to tackle was Earl Campbell.

Posted by: polynikes at August 15, 2024 06:43 PM (B1dzx)

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Saw him in person at the Holmes-Cooney fight in Las Vegas.

Each thigh was larger than my 32 in (at the time) waist.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 15, 2024 06:49 PM (nX9Qc)

281 Well, I guess it's true. I belong to the blank generation.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 15, 2024 06:50 PM (VtQP8)

282 271 Yeah this ruling if upheld by SCOTUS, a lot of cases will be overturned.

One of the earliest cases using geofencing resulting in conviction happened in the Ninth Circuit. It was only because they did a geofence for a specific time period did they find the murderer of an older woman. But there were a bunch of innocent wedding guests whose data was also scooped up.

Killer turned out to be a handyman she had hired to do some renovations.
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Scotus specifically can make the ruling apply only to the cases at hand and not to other past cases.

Has to do with US v. Leon that allows searches, even erroneous ones, to be made if they were done in good faith. Geofencing allowed by judges and approved by appellate courts in the past would qualify.

Posted by: whig at August 15, 2024 06:50 PM (kW+z9)

283 Stopping Earl Campbell: Like tackling a fire hydrant.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 15, 2024 06:51 PM (aXxgO)

284 The Chinese used geofencing to ID demonstration participants during their COVID lockdowns.

Posted by: RobertM at August 15, 2024 06:51 PM (+/lOf)

285 America is the only state in the world that resists fascism.
Posted by: Axeman at August 15, 2024 06:13 PM (krQz2)

If you want to hear scholarly takes on Benito Mussolini and Italy, look up on Youtuub Ralph Raico and Mussolini - he has a lot of lectures so specify Mussolini.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 15, 2024 06:51 PM (D7oie)

286 The running back I would least want to try to tackle was Earl Campbell.

Posted by: polynikes at August 15, 2024 06:43 PM (B1dzx)

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Was a huge Vikings fan primarily because of Fran Tarkenton (one of my favorite quotes was from him: "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a steady loser").

I had a jersey with theur colors and the number 44 -- Chuck Foreman! I wore that thing everywhere ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 15, 2024 06:52 PM (A7BQq)

287 286 was supposed to be in response to Blake at 278.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 15, 2024 06:54 PM (A7BQq)

288
Reporter: Earl gets up awfully slow.

Bum Phillips: Goes down awfully slow too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 15, 2024 06:55 PM (1Nxff)

289 Nobody remembers the name of the Bengals LB that pretty much ended Bo Jackson's football career on a fluky tackle. Odd things happen in football.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 15, 2024 06:47 PM (gllTv)

Oh, good, but sad point! It was a sort-of horse collar that just forced Jackson down in an awkward way... SO fucking random!!!!!!

Posted by: Horny Mama Celeste at August 15, 2024 06:56 PM (5AVMW)

290 "Hamstringing the government is the whole purpose of our Constitution."

Nothing that a 15-member SCOTUS can't correct in Obama term 4

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 15, 2024 07:10 PM (a8zTO)

291 Interesting take considering the case where the FBI took all the contents of every safety deposit box because one criminal hid illegal gains seems to be in conflict with a warrant being used for an area and for anonymous people.

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at August 15, 2024 08:16 PM (SRiFu)

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