THE MORNING RANT: Kamala and Fracking - Can She Successfully Pull Off The <i>“Trust Me, I’m Lying”</i> Gambit?

THE MORNING RANT: Kamala and Fracking - Can She Successfully Pull Off The “Trust Me, I’m Lying” Gambit?

One of the most entertaining political moves when a left-wing politician has secured a nomination and must appeal to an audience beyond the far-left base is the “Trust me, I’m lying” gambit. It gets employed when a candidate has a position that is toxic to the general public, yet is a foundational issue for the Democrats’ base. Thus, the candidate needs to make a statement that, if effective, will fool mainstream voters, with the intention that the activist base understands that the statement is just a politically necessary lie. It often blows up on the candidate.

In Kamala Harris’ case, she just rolled out the “Trust me, I’m lying” strategy on the issue of fracking for oil. The Democrat party in general is hostile to the petroleum industry, and its coastal left-wing base is religious about its desire to destroy the oil and gas industry, and bring a halt to all new drilling.

In Kamala’s own words at a CNN townhall meeting during the 2020 presidential primaries, “There’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking.”

Unfortunately, Pennsylvania is a must-win state for Kamala, and it has an oil boom going on. Promising to kill off all those high-paying, blue collar, oilfield jobs is a winning message in San Franciso and Boston, but it doesn’t play so well in western Pennsylvania. So Kamala is trying the always difficult “Trust me, I’m lying” approach, hoping she can fool the blue-collar voters in Pennsylvania, while also hoping her radical left-wing base knows she is just lying to get elected, and that they’ll still vote for her despite Kamala now being on the record as pro-fracking.

“Harris courts swing voters with fracking reversal” [The Hill – 8/01/2024]

Vice President Harris has reversed her position on fracking, signaling a move to the center on the issue. The rightward shift comes as she tries to court swing voters in states like Pennsylvania.

A few years ago I wrote about how difficult it has become to pull off the “Trust me, I’m lying” charade, focusing especially on the 2018 Tennessee Senate race in which “moderate” Democrat Phil Bredesen and Republican Marsha Blackburn were vying for the open US Senate seat formerly held by Republican Bob Corker. Polling showed the race to be tight, and the media was ecstatic about the chances of a Democrat flipping a Senate seat in deep red Tennessee.

Then the Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination happened, and it just kept dragging on, getting uglier and ever more preposterous. Throughout it all, Bredesen kept trying to straddle the top political issue of the day. He kept refusing to say how he’d vote on the Kavanaugh nomination, indicating to both sides that he was inclined - but not yet committed - to vote their way. Meanwhile, Blackburn was quite emphatic about her support for Kav, and the polls started breaking toward Blackburn. Bredesen could no longer wait until after the vote to declare his stand.

So Bredesen rolled out the “Trust me, I’m lying” strategy, stating that if he were currently a Senator, he would vote to confirm Kavanaugh. With that, his campaign quickly imploded.

Unfortunately for him, it played out exactly the opposite of how “Trust me, I’m lying” is supposed to work. Everyone knew he was lying, except for the left-wing activists who form the base of the Democrat party. They took Bredesen at face value. And they revolted against him.

“Volunteers bolt Bredesen over Kavanaugh support” [Politico – 10/11/2018]

For Kamala to succeed in her fingers-crossed-behind-her-back “support” of fracking, she needs the anti-carbon, net-zero zealots to play along. That’s a little like asking a religiously devout person to deny his faith in service to a greater cause.

Kamala’s faux-support of fracking is also causing problems for other Democrats who cannot acknowledge that her shifting position is a transparently phony political maneuver.

Sherrod Brown, a left-wing Democrat who is hostile to the petroleum industry, is running for re-election in Ohio, and was asked by the media about Kamala’s new “support” for fracking.

“Kamala Harris’ fracking flip-flop is affecting races for other Democrats” [NY Post – 8/02/2024]

“My focus is on my state and my work,” a flustered Brown mumbled on his way toward an elevator. “I’ve endorsed Vice President Harris … I don’t know what she said on fracking.”

Let me paraphrase what Sen. Brown was trying to say, “Trust me, Kamala is lying.”

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Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: BruceWayne at August 05, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)

2 Commenting present

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2024 11:00 AM (um7CG)

3 First!

Posted by: Mark in South Jordan Utah at August 05, 2024 11:00 AM (kMTsG)

4 nd

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 05, 2024 11:00 AM (/HDaX)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

6 Damnit!

Posted by: Mark in South Jordan Utah at August 05, 2024 11:01 AM (kMTsG)

7 Just Stop Oil needs a baseball bat to the inside of the knee.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

8 Keep seeing more articles Shapiro will be her VP.
No idea how that works in Pa

Posted by: Skip at August 05, 2024 11:02 AM (um7CG)

9 She is such a godless commie cocksucker.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 05, 2024 11:02 AM (ufFY8)

10 “My focus is on my state and my work,” a flustered Brown mumbled on his way toward an elevator. “I’ve endorsed Vice President Harris … I don’t know what she said on fracking.”

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"I don't know my preferred candidate's position on one of the most important issues affecting the region that I represent."

Can Ohio please, for the love of Pete, send this guy to the private sector to make millions off of NGOs?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)

11 Unfortunately, Pennsylvania is a must-win state for Kamala, and it has an oil boom going on. Promising to kill off all those high-paying, blue collar, oilfield jobs is a winning message in San Franciso and Boston, but it doesn’t play so well in western Pennsylvania.
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And?

Joe Biden said the same thing in 2020 and Donald Trump said the opposite to a crowd of over 10,000 people in western PA on the eve of the election.

Philadelphia and Pittsburgh delivered the state to Biden anyway, by hook or by crook.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:03 AM (HnUIn)

12 11 Philadelphia and Pittsburgh delivered the state to Biden anyway, by hook or by crook.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:03 AM (HnUIn)

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Yeah, but the RNC had an army of lawyers in 2020, so obviously the results were legit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

13 The “Trust me, I’m lying” charade only works when you and the media are owned by the same people.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2024 11:03 AM (aD39U)

14 A UK judge just sentenced five members of Just Stop Oil to a total of 21 years in prison. But they used a new novel law passed in 2023 to do it so I expect if I read the law it would be full on Fascist.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:04 AM (yTqdG)

15 We have a primary election tomorrow (MI).

Going to vote against my incumbents going to Washington. Fuck em.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 05, 2024 11:04 AM (ufFY8)

16 For Kamala to succeed in her fingers-crossed-behind-her-back “support” of fracking, she needs the anti-carbon, net-zero zealots to play along. That’s a little like asking a religiously devout person to deny his faith in service to a greater cause.
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They will. This isn't some state race in a peripheral province with only modest chances anyway.

They know the truth, and will vote. More important, those who control the elections will not have some crisis of the faith because Harris is lying to the rubes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:04 AM (HnUIn)

17 Did *Harris* actually reverse ?
or was it just a staffer pushing send on a tweet ?

Posted by: McCool at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (Vm5ir)

18 "everything that woman has said is bullshit."

Posted by: BignJames at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

19 Just Stop Oil needs a baseball bat to the inside of the knee.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

I would be infuriated if one of those assholes defaced art in my presence.

I am stunned that nobody has knocked the snot out of one of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (d9fT1)

20 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

***
Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

21 The "Trust me, I'm lying" gambit only works if you have a smooth-talking sax playing con artist like Bill Clinton.

Kamala ain't Bubba Clinton

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (yTqdG)

22 All politicians lie. All of them.

It's why people gave Trump a chance in 2016. He ended up being the only guy in decades that didn't seem to be openly lying to their faces.

And he kept his campaign promises.

But you must hate him and trust that Kumswala, who's been a part of the destruction of the world for the past 3.5 years, will fix everything her and Biden did.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

23 Let me paraphrase what Sen. Brown was trying to say, “Trust me, Kamala is lying.”
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There's another side to this entire premise.

Those opposed to Harris trust that she is lying, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)

24 It's 11:06 am EDT

do you know who your President is?

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:06 AM (/7KEl)

25 That’s a little like asking a religiously devout person to deny his faith in service to a greater cause.
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:04 AM (HnUIn)

Like Shapiro?

Posted by: BignJames at August 05, 2024 11:06 AM (AwYPR)

26 Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

You are a man of quality, and good breeding!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (0eaVi)

27 I would be infuriated if one of those assholes defaced art in my presence.

I am stunned that nobody has knocked the snot out of one of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (d9fT1)

At Stonehenge, they were doing whatever they wanted until an OLD WOMAN started pushing the one around and trying to get him to stop. ONLY THEN did a dude step in to 'assist' the old broad.

Feminism has ruined EVERYTHING. There are VERY FEW men left in the world.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

28 People are not fooled by any of this, they are simply on one team or another and that's how they vote.

There are simply more people on team donkey than team elephant.

It really just all comes down to that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (XV/Pl)

29
Her nut job base know who she really is.They know she's not a pragmatist but a far leftist. They will allow her to lie her ass off to look moderate. She is one of them. They know it. The problem is the moderate squish idiots who might fall for it.

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (+oR7L)

30 "It's the economy stupid."

Classic double standard political cartoon example of the media using the economy as a club to pummel only Republicans.

https://tinyurl.com/bddjsy2d

"The ever vigilante media"

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (yTqdG)

31 Just Stop Oil needs a baseball bat to the inside of the knee.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024

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And while he's waiting for the ambulance, you tell him that the item he had in his hands in the pic was made using oil.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (J2vNu)

32 At Stonehenge, they were doing whatever they wanted until an OLD WOMAN started pushing the one around and trying to get him to stop. ONLY THEN did a dude step in to 'assist' the old broad.

Feminism has ruined EVERYTHING. There are VERY FEW men left in the world.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden a

Also they are European soooooo

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (CIS44)

33 Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)
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If I'm sweating and getting dirty working on the yard or doing a project and I find that I - of course - suddenly need a fine-cut saw blade or a new spool of trimmer string, I'm going to grumble all my way directly to Ace Hardware and back home. I'm not changing my clothes and creating more laundry to avoid a trip to the hardware store in shorts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)

34 28 There are simply more people on team donkey than team elephant.

It really just all comes down to that.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (XV/Pl)

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Then why do they have to cheat to brazenly?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

35 I have shorts on right now Even went out in public felt great and Im past 29 by a bit

Posted by: doug at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (8/lc0)

36 And yet the criminal media calls Trump a liar.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (FfSAJ)

37 But you must hate him and trust that Kumswala, who's been a part of the destruction of the world for the past 3.5 years, will fix everything her and Biden did.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

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If only Comrade Biden and Comrade Harris knew what their minions were doing in their name!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (3Sugj)

38 I trust Democrats to always lie to gain power. Power is their Holy Grail, "By Any Means Necessary" is their dogma.

Posted by: geoffb at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (r//c2)

39

Frack me! Dry hole!

Posted by: Tranni Tilapiatwat at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (Wdohh)

40 The "Trust me, I'm lying" gambit only works if you have a smooth-talking sax playing con artist like Bill Clinton.

Kamala ain't Bubba Clinton

Yup. It surprisingly takes verbal dexterity and the wit to keep the lies straight in order to pull off this strategem. Kamala has neither.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2024 11:09 AM (xCA6C)

41 She is such a ~~godless commie~~ cocksucker.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 05, 2024

***
Omit needless words.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:09 AM (J2vNu)

42
Also they are European soooooo
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 05, 2024 11:07 AM (CIS44)

Your point is valid. But it's spreading in the US like gangbusters.......

Of course, it doesn't help that the liberal legal system arrests you and ruins your life if you actually stand up to the leftist scumbags.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

43 There are simply more people on team donkey than team elephant.

It's hard to beat Santa Claus...

Posted by: McCool at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (Vm5ir)

44 >>The “Trust Me, I’m Lying” Gambit

...is as old as politics itself
politicians are always running away from positions and statements should anything in their records become politically inconvenient
and if you are Democrat, the press will provide cover, or whitewash as the case may be

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (/7KEl)

45 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
*
Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

***
Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

Quick -- there's a cloud outside that has yet to have a fist shaken at it. You guys should remedy that!

Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (RhGG0)

46 This will be a good test case for how much the uninformed masses can be fooled.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (N1DT3)

47 Some British news outlet traced Just Stop Oul funding to a charity (money laundering org) founded by Hillary Clinton. Someone should ask her about that, but we don't have a news media anymore.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2024 11:11 AM (KnSjc)

48 Please review the Newspeak section on doublethink

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (/7KEl)

49 Every western country is overflowing with illegals thanks to our globalist leaders. And those same globalist leaders thought it would be a good idea to spend billions housing and feeding them.

And now we are about to hit a deep recession which is going to cost a lot of jobs. Should be interesting to watch how citizens react when there is no safety net left for them.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (LkLld)

50 If I'm sweating and getting dirty working on the yard or doing a project and I find that I - of course - suddenly need a fine-cut saw blade or a new spool of trimmer string, I'm going to grumble all my way directly to Ace Hardware and back home. I'm not changing my clothes and creating more laundry to avoid a trip to the hardware store in shorts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024

***
Of course there can be exceptions like that. But I wouldn't want to get that sweat, dirt, or tiny little blades of shorn grass on my nice-looking car seats.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (J2vNu)

51 If Kamala is installed as White House Resident, I'll take it to mean God's covering Hand has been removed from the US.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (tT6L1)

52 Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

I have little issue with shorts.

Flip flops, on the other hand......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

53 And yet the criminal media calls Trump a liar.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at August 05, 2024 11:08 AM (FfSAJ)
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Trump *is* a liar. He says one thing and does another.

Vice President Harris' evolution on various topics is not an indicator of deceit, but is rather an indicator of experience and flexibility. The right-wing pillorying of adaptation as "flip-flopping" is itself dishonest.

She believed one thing based on one set of assumptions. As she achieved greater insight and experience, her position shifted. Such shifts are rarely full reversals, but that doesn't stop the White Wingers from crying "flip-flop! flip-flop!" every time somebody integrates new information and experience into her knowledge base.

What you're seeing is maturity, intelligence and flexibility. To cast that as "lying" is profoundly dishonest.

Posted by: Your Kid's Journalism Professor at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)

54 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

A Gentleman or, indeed, any adult of either gender, is aware of who they are, comfortable in their own skin, and doesn't give a flying rat's ass if someone else tsks at them for wearing clothing they find comfortable.

Now, certainly, shorts to a formal occasion would be improper but just out and about town? I wear what I want. It's not revealing, it's not obscene, it doesn't affect you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (U7wke)

55 This will be a good test case for how much the uninformed masses can be fooled.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (N1DT3)

B...but, we want to be fooled.

Posted by: The Uninformed Masses at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (0eaVi)

56 Dude in the store the other day not only wearing shorts but sandals with socks. Abomination.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2024 11:13 AM (HJ9BW)

57 Quick -- there's a cloud outside that has yet to have a fist shaken at it. You guys should remedy that!
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (RhGG0)
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Yeah, well, get off my lawn.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:13 AM (tT6L1)

58 Shoot, now I'm picturing half the horde with cargo shorts, wrinkly boney knees, long white socks with sandals.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2024 11:13 AM (KnSjc)

59 46 This will be a good test case for how much the uninformed masses can be fooled.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (N1DT3)

sadly, the vast majority of the uninformed masses are idiots more interested in the latest 'housewives of new jersey' drama.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 05, 2024 11:13 AM (ZtyUu)

60 94 degrees yesterday with elevated humidity. I'm golfing in shorts. The Fashion Police are going to have to suck it.

Posted by: Wally at August 05, 2024 11:13 AM (hqVaF)

61 I have little issue with shorts.

Flip flops, on the other hand......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

Already prepared to bring 2 pair of flip-flops to Texas. Always room for more!

Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (RhGG0)

62 @12

>>Yeah, but the RNC had an army of lawyers in 2020, so obviously the results were legit.

As has been said, the Donks control enough of the voting apparatuses in enough locales to swing elections.

Seriously, who is going to be able to do anything about the Philly vote counting center when they paper over the windows and kick out the GOP observers?

During 2020, when the GOP Observers tried to get access or demanded audits, they were told in no uncertain terms to f**k off.

And this f**k off came all the up the chain from SCOTUS.

So, again, the only way to really make any substantive change is to overthrow existing governments and install new ones.

What was true in 1776, 1789 and 1989 is true today.

Brits are probably going to get that party started before we do, which would be ironic, don't you think?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (XV/Pl)

63 Ever seen the Chicago Whitesox shorts uniforms? Ye gods those were hideous.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (HJ9BW)

64 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

*July and August in Texas has entered the chat

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (3fGPY)

65 We have some strong feelings about shorts this Monday!

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (pZEOD)

66 People lie. Politicians always lie. The media's got everyone covered. It doesn't matter one bit what Kamala said or says. There's a narrative behind every statement or word salad that she utters.

It's obvious the media has been given their marching orders with regards to her. Prepping the masses for another election steal.

Whether the left is successful remains to be seen.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

67 58 - not that there is anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (KnSjc)

68 Vice President Harris' evolution on various topics is not an indicator of deceit, but is rather an indicator of experience and flexibility. The right-wing pillorying of adaptation as "flip-flopping" is itself dishonest.

She believed one thing based on one set of assumptions. As she achieved greater insight and experience, her position shifted. Such shifts are rarely full reversals, but that doesn't stop the White Wingers from crying "flip-flop! flip-flop!" every time somebody integrates new information and experience into her knowledge base.

What you're seeing is maturity, intelligence and flexibility. To cast that as "lying" is profoundly dishonest.

Posted by: Your Kid's Journalism Professor

Now do J.D. Vance and his opinion of Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

69 All you anti-shorts Luddites can lick my ample leg hair. I never skip leg day and want the ladies to feast their eyes on my muscular, fit calves and thighs.

Posted by: Speedo Rick at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (CV8a5)

70 I do not wear shorts in public. I don't like seeing my skinny old white man legs and if I don't like seeing them, I'm pretty sure neither would the general population.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (tT6L1)

71 When given the option, PGA golfers wear shorts on the course.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

72 Jesse Kelly is my spirit animal. He had a discussion the other day about how communists are always conducting probing attacks. And the Biden 2020 campaign - such as it was - was a probing attack. Could they get away with just not having press conferences, keep the candidate sequestered, and just not answering questions generally.

We know the answer: yes, they could do that, they could still get that candidate elected, and the press would let them get away with it.

So that's how they are going to go with Kamala. It won't even be a "trust me I'm lying" answer. It will simply go unanswered, so the media which isn't that interested in asking the questions to begin with won't bother trying.

Posted by: blaster at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (xhfG9)

73 94 degrees yesterday with elevated humidity. I'm golfing in shorts. The Fashion Police are going to have to suck it.
Posted by: Wally

99 to 105 for the next week.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (3fGPY)

74 >>I have little issue with shorts.

>>Flip flops, on the other hand......

I take them off before getting on a boat.

Some of you guys have weird rules.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (LkLld)

75 Begun the Shorts War has.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (PiwSw)

76 Already prepared to bring 2 pair of flip-flops to Texas. Always room for more!
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (RhGG0)

And everyone things TJM is an asshole.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

77 Now, certainly, shorts to a formal occasion would be improper but just out and about town? I wear what I want. It's not revealing, it's not obscene, it doesn't affect you.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:12 AM (U7wke)

What? Don't you know you're leading some female into a lustful view of your well developed calf muscles?!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (0eaVi)

78 Old Kamala: END OIL NOW!

New Kamala: RAPE MOTHER EARTH FOR OIL!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (L/fGl)

79 94 degrees yesterday with elevated humidity. I'm golfing in shorts. The Fashion Police are going to have to suck it.
Posted by: Wally at August 05, 2024

***
That qualifies as "exercising," though I've heard golf described as "a good way to ruin a nice walk."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (J2vNu)

80 Flip flops are for children at swimming pools and summer backyards

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (/7KEl)

81 62 So, again, the only way to really make any substantive change is to overthrow existing governments and install new ones.

What was true in 1776, 1789 and 1989 is true today.

Brits are probably going to get that party started before we do, which would be ironic, don't you think?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (XV/Pl)

=======

I'm not at that point yet.

I think there are legal means open to us, still. I think the ground has shifted legally and we have an opening.

It's not a large opening, and I doubt the GOP will try to walk through it.

But I don't think we're at revolutionary necessity just yet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)

82 The Don don't wear shorts.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (Te7DI)

83 I do not wear shorts in public. I don't like seeing my skinny old white man legs and if I don't like seeing them, I'm pretty sure neither would the general population.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (tT6L1)
++++
Yup. Shorts in public are an exception. Only the situation I laid out above - mid-project - or if I'm at the beach. The reason you state is a big part of it.

Realistically, the best thing would be for me to wear a hijab, but then people would just misgender me all the time. It's a no-win scenario.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (HnUIn)

84 How is it Barky "won" West Virginia? Campaigning on killing coal careers. "Prices will necessarily skyrocket".

I'm persuaded in my more uncharitable moments the Democrats long ago dusted off the Morgenthau Plan for post-war Germany and have been applying it to the USA for decades now. It actually makes sense, from a globalist perspective as well.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (aOYfI)

85 Anyone knows that black nylon knee socks go best with sandals.

Posted by: Pasty, Fat, German Tourist at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (CV8a5)

86 Bob Grant used to say - " They only lie when their lips move " I used to picture a politician ventriloquist

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (HJ9BW)

87 I'd frack me, I'd frack me hard.

Posted by: Buffalo Oil Field prancing about at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (aD39U)

88 "Boy, if I had known Kamala would be pro-fracking, I wouldn't have voted for her in the primary."

"You didn't vote for her in the primary. No one did."

"Then how did she become the dem nominee?"

"Don't worry about all that. She's the nominee. Now you must vote for her."

"Oh. Okay."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (KbCG3)

89 This should get the blood boiling in Colorado.

TV news station 9 found out on receipts something called a Public Improvement Fund.

Turns out store owners can levy a tax on each transaction in order to fund improvements to the property like fixing potholes,

The PIF in some stores adds Three Cents to the purchase of a 20oz Coca-Cola.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (yTqdG)

90 I take them off before getting on a boat.

Some of you guys have weird rules.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (LkLld)

There are 3 places filp flops (an incredibly uncomfortable footwear anyway) are acceptable and all 3 usually revolve around water: Backyard BBQ's, on the beach or in a boat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

91 @34

>>Then why do they have to cheat to brazenly?

Largely because most people don't actually vote.

I would surmise if you had nationwide vote by television remote, team donkey would come out way ahead.

It's one of the reasons the founders put in the EC.

There are simply more of them than there are of us.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (XV/Pl)

92 I'm persuaded in my more uncharitable moments the Democrats long ago dusted off the Morgenthau Plan for post-war Germany and have been applying it to the USA for decades now. It actually makes sense, from a globalist perspective as well.

Sure, let's call it the Morgenthau Plan. It was actually the Jefferson Plan.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (xCA6C)

93 Vice President Harris' evolution on various topics is not an indicator of deceit, but is rather an indicator of experience and flexibility.

-
And the value of pandering.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)

94 PA knew what Biden was going to do to oil. Trump said it in the debate and in every campaign stop.

And they still "voted" for Biden.

It might--might--have some resonance if their anti-oil stance can be tied directly to higher gas prices.
So far, the average voter has been impervious to the causal relationship there.
And 98% of Philly and Pittsburg voters are certain that higher gas prices are only due to Big Oil price gouging.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (XBPvm)

95 Now, certainly, shorts to a formal occasion would be improper but just out and about town? I wear what I want. It's not revealing, it's not obscene, it doesn't affect you.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

All you really have to do is wear knee-length socks with them and claim they're knickerbockers.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (hB7mE)

96 Saying they aren't Lefties have worked for years. Blue Dog Democrats they were called and in TN and other southern states it worked for years.

Posted by: James Lewis at August 05, 2024 11:17 AM (me36p)

97 Actually, I usually do yard work wearing jeans. Protects the legs from projectiles if I'm mowing, and from mosquitoes and other bugs in general.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (v6JzV)

98 I do not wear shorts in public. I don't like seeing my skinny old white man legs and if I don't like seeing them, I'm pretty sure neither would the general population.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024

***
My legs are pretty well-muscled from years of walking and running. But I don't feel like a grownup in shorts. The Bart Simpson/Bobby Hill approach to clothing? Unh-unh.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu)

99 Forget shorts, let’s talk about yoga pants. They were designed with a certain type of female in mind. I’m not trying to be mean, but if the size of your leggings start with at least three Xs, put them away and wear something else.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (u73oe)

100 Realistically, the best thing would be for me to wear a hijab, but then people would just misgender me all the time. It's a no-win scenario.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (HnUIn)
----------------

We're not all geneticists so, we can just go with the standard, "Hey, weirdo" and be done with it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (tT6L1)

101 There are certain things that the electorate just understands implicitly, and no matter how much you protest, you won't convince them otherwise.

Dems are environmentalists. They will ban fracking. They will reduce the amount of oil we drill in the USA.

People know that. It's baked in. When a Dem candidate tries to say "I favor fracking" or whatever, people just roll their eyes and say "yeah sure."

All the opposition has to do is hammer her on that point (and all her other San Fran liberal ideals) over and over. Keep her on defense. Make her talk without a teleprompter. Watch her shrivel and collapse.

Posted by: Shenanigans at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (pZ0Mr)

102 The Don don't wear shorts.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM (Te7DI)

Trump?....when golfing?....yeah, he does.

Posted by: BignJames at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (AwYPR)

103 Actually, I usually do yard work wearing jeans. Protects the legs from projectiles if I'm mowing, and from mosquitoes and other bugs in general.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (v6JzV)
++++
Yep. Pruning and whatnot, shorts are fine. Mowing is borderline. The string trimmer with shorts is just a bad time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (HnUIn)

104 Short pants as a nod to the heat= okay

but in Colorado*, some men wear shorts year round
I am not kidding, they will wear shorts in a snowstorm
it defies all common sense

*NOTE: though I live among them, I am not one of them

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/7KEl)

105 Now do J.D. Vance and his opinion of Trump.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

Provide me knowledge. As I understand it, Vance said some shit when Trump was a candidate in 2016. Has he spoken ill of Trump since, say, July of 2017? Honest question as I do not know.

That having been said, it would affect my opinion of him in the primaries in 2028 but won't affect my vote this year.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (U7wke)

106 Wait! Kamala just offhandedly admitted she would ban offshore drilling (with a cackle.) That is 15% of current production, would she shut down those existing too? (answer: yes, if she could)

Damn, I wish these leftists could get the polices they advocate without destroying the rest of us.

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (GUOwU)

107 99 Forget shorts, let’s talk about yoga pants. They were designed with a certain type of female in mind. I’m not trying to be mean, but if the size of your leggings start with at least three Xs, put them away and wear something else.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (u73oe)

We're having a Big Sale Today! Come on down!!

Posted by: Omar the Tentmaker at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (PiwSw)

108 So that's how they are going to go with Kamala. It won't even be a "trust me I'm lying" answer. It will simply go unanswered, so the media which isn't that interested in asking the questions to begin with won't bother trying.

Posted by: blaster at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (xhfG9)

If you can, try to find her answer to the question, "What's your plan for solving inflation?"

Was just a day or so ago. Her non-answer doesn't even come close to the non-answer of a politician. It's basically the answer you'd get if you put a janitorial intern in a board meeting and asked them to explain the company's financials.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)

109 94 degrees yesterday with elevated humidity. I'm golfing in shorts. The Fashion Police are going to have to suck it.
Posted by: Wally

99 to 105 for the next week.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (3fGPY)

And?

Posted by: 115 outside and still not wearing shorts outside at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (0eaVi)

110 Already prepared to bring 2 pair of flip-flops to Texas. Always room for more!
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (RhGG0)

And everyone things TJM is an asshole.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

I'm betting you'll still partake of my top-shelf bourbon even if I'm wearing flip-flops

Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (RhGG0)

111 All you anti-shorts Luddites can lick my ample leg hair. I never skip leg day and want the ladies to feast their eyes on my muscular, fit calves and thighs.
Posted by: Speedo Rick

* Fans self *
* Faints *

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (hB7mE)

112 Shoot, now I'm picturing half the horde with cargo shorts, wrinkly boney knees, long white socks with sandals.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2024 11:13 AM (KnSjc)

BLACK socks man. Black.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (N1DT3)

113 Open toed footwear is an invitation to predators. Humanity never progressed a bit until proper shoes were invented. Taming fire, the wheel, closed toe foitwear, the A bomb, walking on the moon...humankind's truly great accomplishments.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (Te7DI)

114 >The Don don't wear shorts.
----

Absolutely G-D right

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (/7KEl)

115 There are 3 places filp flops (an incredibly uncomfortable footwear anyway) are acceptable and all 3 usually revolve around water: Backyard BBQ's, on the beach or in a boat.

Posted by: Sponge

If we have to di di mau and un-ass an AO with extreme prejudice, if you are wearing flip flops , you are on your own.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (3fGPY)

116 What? Don't you know you're leading some female into a lustful view of your well developed calf muscles?!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (0eaVi)

Any woman who lusts after MY legs needs to get out more.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (U7wke)

117 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

*July and August in Texas has entered the chat

Get back to me when you find a picture of Sam Houston in shorts.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (v6JzV)

118 I'm betting you'll still partake of my top-shelf bourbon even if I'm wearing flip-flops
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (RhGG0)

I'll be wearing blinders to prevent me from seeing your likely hairy knuckled, veiny man feet........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

119 She believed one thing based on one set of assumptions. As she achieved greater insight and experience, her position shifted. [...]

Posted by: Your Kid's Journalism Professor

Does anyone ever ask the left why greater insight and experience always results in them shifting rightward, not further leftward? Makes you go hmmm, or at least it should.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (/y8xj)

120 .. but in Colorado*, some men wear shorts year round I am not kidding, they will wear shorts in a snowstorm it defies all common sense ...
Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/7KEl)
++++
It's a thing. I never understood it, but it's definitely a thing. The only other time I've seen a similar phenomenon, it has been the "girls wearing short skirts in winter" thing, but the reason for that is obvious.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:21 AM (HnUIn)

121 @102...he shouldn't

Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 05, 2024 11:21 AM (Te7DI)

122
And everyone things TJM is an asshole.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

I'm betting you'll still partake of my top-shelf bourbon even if I'm wearing flip-flops
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (RhGG0)
-----------

Some of us may or may not have plans to make sure the two of you wake up at an obscene hour the morning after.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:21 AM (tT6L1)

123 There are 3 places filp flops (an incredibly uncomfortable footwear anyway) are acceptable and all 3 usually revolve around water: Backyard BBQ's, on the beach or in a boat.

Posted by: Sponge

And at pools.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:21 AM (v6JzV)

124 And everyone things TJM is an asshole.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

Even TJM does!

Posted by: blaster at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (xhfG9)

125 There are 3 places filp flops (an incredibly uncomfortable footwear anyway) are acceptable and all 3 usually revolve around water: Backyard BBQ's, on the beach or in a boat.

Posted by: Sponge

And at pools.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

And anywhere and everywhere at any time and at all times.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (CIS44)

126 104°-109° is San Fernando valley forecast.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (m7sTw)

127 Flip flops are unsafe at any speed.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (HJ9BW)

128 they will wear shorts in a snowstorm it defies all common sense ...
Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/7KEl)

U. of Michigan frat boys have entered the chat.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (v6JzV)

129 Now do J.D. Vance and his opinion of Trump.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

Provide me knowledge. As I understand it, Vance said some shit when Trump was a candidate in 2016. Has he spoken ill of Trump since, say, July of 2017? Honest question as I do not know.

Yeah, that was the point. Vance despised Trump in 2016, then actually learned and observed, and changed his mind. My point is that people can change their minds due to events, but they have to be consistent at the time and be able to explain their rationale for the change. Kamala can't, other than that she wants to be president.

“When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

130 99 to 105 for the next week.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:15 AM (3fGPY)

And?
Posted by: 115 outside and still not wearing shorts outside

I don't stop and render aid to people wearing long pants in 100+ degree heat.
You aren't stupid. And if you are, think of it as thinning the gene pool.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (3fGPY)

131 >>There are 3 places filp flops (an incredibly uncomfortable footwear anyway) are acceptable and all 3 usually revolve around water: Backyard BBQ's, on the beach or in a boat.

Well I live next to the beach, have a BBQ in the backyard and do a lot of boating. I've burned through a lot of flops over the years.

Any of you guys been to Bermuda? Guys proudly wear shorts and blazers to work.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (LkLld)

132 I'll be wearing blinders to prevent me from seeing your likely hairy knuckled, veiny man feet........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

The love of my bourbon is greater than the hate for my feet. Smart decision.

Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (RhGG0)

133 Forget shorts, let’s talk about yoga pants. They were designed with a certain type of female in mind. I’m not trying to be mean, but if the size of your leggings start with at least three Xs, put them away and wear something else.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (u73oe)

I am here for them!

Posted by: Omar, the Tent Maker at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (0eaVi)

134 About the fellow in the art thread painting...

Serious faux pas in wearing the top hat indoors. That's a big nope!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (4XwPj)

135 @81

>>But I don't think we're at revolutionary necessity just yet.

The election of The SCOAMF is what sealed the deal for this country.

His first election set in motion a chain of events that have bared a poisonous fruit.

His second election sealed that deal.

Him being elected the first time was explicable, his second election inexplicable.

If they install a second sock puppet, all bets are off and I would give it 6 months before the wheels come completely off.

The conditions are being set for some serious unpleasantness.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (XV/Pl)

136 On who wears leggings, I think back to what a reasonable HR person once told me (This happened in the last century, when reasonable HR people still existed): They don't make dress codes for attractive people and their clothing choices. They make dress codes for unattractive people and their clothing choices.

Posted by: Wally at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (hqVaF)

137 Wait, is this true?

Kamala has hired Mark "White Males for Kamala" Hamill to actually be a spokesperson for her campaign?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (yTqdG)

138 3 places filp flops

Naw, ghetto slides man, like a mooslum.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (m7sTw)

139 I'd frack me, I'd frack me hard.
Posted by: Buffalo Oil Field prancing about

There was discussion of "brat" last thread and I wasn't familiar with that usage so I looked it up on Urban Dictionary . . .

https://is.gd/7F1rw1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (L/fGl)

140 they will wear shorts in a snowstorm it defies all common sense ...
Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/7KEl)

U. of Michigan frat boys have entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I was always envious that the guys at college ran hot enough to do that.

Though they usually deigned to put on a sweatshirt when it snowed.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (hB7mE)

141
Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

If I worked in an office, I'd absolutely agree. But I always wear shorts at work in the summer, because my shop is a metal building, we don't have A/C (just a portable swamp cooler), and summer temps are 100+. Like working in an oven.

But while I wear shorts at work, I always wear a button-up work shirt, I've retired the t-shirts. Ts will always make you look like shit once the heat and sweat get into them.

Posted by: IllTemperedcur at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (DMS0O)

142 She's a great candidate.

Posted by: The Politburo at August 05, 2024 11:24 AM (DobEs)

143 If we have to di di mau and un-ass an AO with extreme prejudice, if you are wearing flip flops , you are on your own.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (3fGPY)

I still hold that the poor father and firefighter that died at The Ballpark in Arlington attempting to catch the ball for his son that was tossed by Josh Hamilton died because he was wearing flipflops at the ballpark. His foot came out of the useless thing and he tumbled over the railing to his death.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

144 Of course, it doesn't help that the liberal legal system arrests you and ruins your life if you actually stand up to the leftist scumbags.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

I was watching a Lotus Eaters segment on some of the Just Stop Oil activists *finally* facing jail time for their vandalism and disruption of traffic. There must've been a dozen instances they showed, and the only times they were stopped was when authorities were right there already. They stepped out onto a Formula One racetrack and fortunately it was a red flag lap, but if a driver hadn't seen them in time, you know who would get blamed for the fatality!

Posted by: pookysgirl, not a fan of traffic disruption at August 05, 2024 11:24 AM (dtlDP)

145 Flip flops are unsafe at any speed.

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (HJ9BW)

especially if there's moisture present...blowout is inevitable

Posted by: BignJames at August 05, 2024 11:24 AM (AwYPR)

146 Some of us may or may not have plans to make sure the two of you wake up at an obscene hour the morning after.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:21 AM (tT6L1)

I'm an early riser even when I'm up late drinking. There will be coffee waiting for ya!

Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (RhGG0)

147 99 Forget shorts, let’s talk about yoga pants. They were designed with a certain type of female in mind. I’m not trying to be mean, but if the size of your leggings start with at least three Xs, put them away and wear something else.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05

Unless you are exercising. Then put them on. Move your bodies, people, in clothes that make you comfortable.

*disclosure- on the couch in leggings. But fresh ones since I taught cardio twice this morning. 2 classes to go!

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (pZEOD)

148 but in Colorado*, some men wear shorts year round
I am not kidding, they will wear shorts in a snowstorm
it defies all common sense

*NOTE: though I live among them, I am not one of them
Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024

***
Same here in Da Swamp, even when it gets chilly (say,

"Though I live among them, I am not one of them": my new motto!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (J2vNu)

149 There was discussion of "brat" last thread and I wasn't familiar with that usage so I looked it up on Urban Dictionary . . .

https://is.gd/7F1rw1
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (L/fGl)

"Friend: WTF is wrong with you?"

Highly appropriate.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

150 Get back to me when you find a picture of Sam Houston in shorts.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Sorry, Rick. Didn't mean to post my comment over your nic.

Get back to me when you find a picture of Sam Houston in shorts.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (v6JzV)

151 I'm betting you'll still partake of my top-shelf bourbon even if I'm wearing flip-flops
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (RhGG0)

Wouldn't the bourbon be on the booze table? If so, we can pretend someone with real footwear brought it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (U7wke)

152 143 If we have to di di mau and un-ass an AO with extreme prejudice, if you are wearing flip flops , you are on your own.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:20 AM (3fGPY)

I still hold that the poor father and firefighter that died at The Ballpark in Arlington attempting to catch the ball for his son that was tossed by Josh Hamilton died because he was wearing flipflops at the ballpark. His foot came out of the useless thing and he tumbled over the railing to his death.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

While horribly tragic, there's little funnier than watching some flip-flopped bros get into a fight and then see a yard sale of flops strewn about post ruckus.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

153 137 Wait, is this true?

Kamala has hired Mark "White Males for Kamala" Hamill to actually be a spokesperson for her campaign?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (yTqdG)

"Luke, Obi-Wan never told you you were a dumbass."

Posted by: Darth Forman at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (PiwSw)

154 How did we get here ? A month ago Kamala was the lowest rated VP of all time.. Now she's the leading candidate in the race ? It pays to own the media

Posted by: The Lollipop Guild at August 05, 2024 11:26 AM (IyPmt)

155 Kamala has hired Mark "White Males for Kamala" Hamill to actually be a spokesperson for her campaign?
Posted by: Anna Puma

https://is.gd/darLJm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:26 AM (L/fGl)

156 135 If they install a second sock puppet, all bets are off and I would give it 6 months before the wheels come completely off.

The conditions are being set for some serious unpleasantness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (XV/Pl)

========

I understand his first one. W intentionally fucked everything up and McCain continued the tradition. 2012 was stolen (FL, MI, NV, and PA are enough on their own), but 2016 showed that America was ready for a return to normalcy.

If they can get away with it again, it'll be bad.

I'm just waiting to see if they can get away with it again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)

157 Remember folks, those illegals streaming across the border need their $12K food stamp allocations more then you need your 401k so stop being racist and vote for Kamala

Posted by: Kamala 2024 she'll do for the economy what she did for Willie's Willie at August 05, 2024 11:27 AM (oZhjI)

158
I would be infuriated if one of those assholes defaced art in my presence.

I am stunned that nobody has knocked the snot out of one of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Nobody wants to be locked up in a Jan6 dungeon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 05, 2024 11:27 AM (63Dwl)

159 U. of Michigan frat boys have entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I was always envious that the guys at college ran hot enough to do that.

Though they usually deigned to put on a sweatshirt when it snowed.
Posted by: FeatherBlade

Yep. Sweatshirt and shorts.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:27 AM (v6JzV)

160 139 I'd frack me, I'd frack me hard.
Posted by: Buffalo Oil Field prancing about

There was discussion of "brat" last thread and I wasn't familiar with that usage so I looked it up on Urban Dictionary . . .

https://is.gd/7F1rw1
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 probl

Updated definition- likes to party, is a bit messy. Doesn’t really care.

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:27 AM (pZEOD)

161 Thx Buck
With regard to adult males and shorts I just got off the golf course and it's 90 degrees with high humidity. No way would I wear slacks. Even with shorts I'm sweating like a pig

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (kCLO6)

162 The "Just Stop Oil" people would be hilarious if it wasn't for their fervent religious zeal and destructive behavior.

Everything that guy is wearing and carrying is only made possible because of oil.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (7fElN)

163 Bulg you are right

that's it

Men in Colorado dress like frat boys

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (/7KEl)

164 154 How did we get here ? A month ago Kamala was the lowest rated VP of all time.. Now she's the leading candidate in the race ? It pays to own the media

Posted by: The Lollipop Guild at August 05, 2024 11:26 AM (IyPmt)

Malice was on with Rogan last week and Rogan made this same point.

She was an unliked nothing until she became the nominee. Suddenly, poof! Everything in her life before that happened became moot.

Also, Malice throwing out that if you knock her you're ableist. Rogan asks, "Ableist?" "Yeah, because she's a retard."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (KbCG3)

165 The love of my bourbon is greater than the hate for my feet. Smart decision.
Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (RhGG0)

You should recreate the scene in From Dusk Till Dawn with Salma Hayek and the tequila.

Posted by: blaster at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (xhfG9)

166 U. of Michigan frat boys have entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:22 AM (v6JzV)

Make that every northern university frat boys.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (0eaVi)

167 107 99 Forget shorts, let’s talk about yoga pants. They were designed with a certain type of female in mind. I’m not trying to be mean, but if the size of your leggings start with at least three Xs, put them away and wear something else.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (u73oe)

We're having a Big Sale Today! Come on down!!
Posted by: Omar the Tentmaker at August 05, 2024 11:19 AM (PiwSw)

-----------------------------

You should try one of my Tall and Fat stores. No offense!

Posted by: Thornton Melon at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (F4bAW)

168 I understand his first one. W intentionally fucked everything up and McCain continued the tradition. 2012 was stolen (FL, MI, NV, and PA are enough on their own), but 2016 showed that America was ready for a return to normalcy.

I suspect the Dems only did their normal fraud operation in 2012 it was more Romney intentionally tanking his own campaign for a race that should have been a lay up.

Posted by: Kamala 2024 she'll do for the economy what she did for Willie's Willie at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (oZhjI)

169 154 How did we get here ? A month ago Kamala was the lowest rated VP of all time.. Now she's the leading candidate in the race ? It pays to own the media
Posted by: The Lollipop Guild at August 05, 2024 11:26 AM (IyPmt)

=======

I dug into the internals of the latest CBS poll that showed Harris up by 1.

A couple of major issues with their methodology. First, they weight it. Bullshit. Second, they weight it based on electoral models built on 2020 and 2022.

With massive election rule changes in GA (where they also released results), it's a serious question about why they would assume similar results. Plus, the whole mail in balloting thing is going to be far less.

They're playing games with polls. Just like always. It's not new.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (GBKbO)

170 Also, Malice throwing out that if you knock her you're ableist. Rogan asks, "Ableist?" "Yeah, because she's a retard."
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (KbCG3)

This is true

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (IyPmt)

171 While horribly tragic, there's little funnier than watching some flip-flopped bros get into a fight and then see a yard sale of flops strewn about post ruckus.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

Especially when they all return to retrieve them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

172 If I worked in an office, I'd absolutely agree. But I always wear shorts at work in the summer, because my shop is a metal building, we don't have A/C (just a portable swamp cooler), and summer temps are 100+. Like working in an oven.

But while I wear shorts at work, I always wear a button-up work shirt, I've retired the t-shirts. Ts will always make you look like shit once the heat and sweat get into them.
Posted by: IllTemperedcur at August 05, 2024

***
Extreme heat that cannot be avoided is a good reason for shorts. When in '21 I had no power for two days at my place thanks to Hurricane Whatever, naturally I wore a T-shirt and shorts indoors and out.

(The British in India, Africa, and SE Asia had tropical shorts as part of their daily working gear -- but that was long before A/C.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (J2vNu)

173 I wear shorts all the time. It's rare I wear long pants. Even when it's below freezing, I will be wearing shorts. My leg are (used to be) phenomenal

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (1FWWQ)

174 Yep. Sweatshirt and shorts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:27 AM (v6JzV)
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Minnesota, early spring, standard garb. Sunny with snow on the ground and balmy temperatures in the mid thirties.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (tT6L1)

175 if the size of your leggings start with at least three Xs, put them away and wear something else.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05

Nah. I always wear them as hose under dresses or tunics, not as trousers, but I'd rather wear them and aesthetically offend somebody than deal with heat rash and friction sores.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (hB7mE)

176 168 I suspect the Dems only did their normal fraud operation in 2012 it was more Romney intentionally tanking his own campaign for a race that should have been a lay up.
Posted by: Kamala 2024 she'll do for the economy what she did for Willie's Willie at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (oZhjI)

========

FL went from swing state to solid red because DeSantis cleaned up Broward County and Miami.

I suspect the "normal levels of fraud" are a lot higher than people want to believe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)

177 I suspect the Dems only did their normal fraud operation in 2012 it was more Romney intentionally tanking his own campaign for a race that should have been a lay up.

Posted by: Kamala 2024 she'll do for the economy what she did for Willie's Willie at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (oZhjI)

That first debate was a massive screw up on both sides. Obama couldn't have done worse. Romney couldn't have done better.

They fixed that, right quick.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3)

178 Fourth place shorts are ok.

Fighting in North Africa.

https://tinyurl.com/ynrfbdxa

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (3fGPY)

179 She was an unliked nothing until she became the nominee. Suddenly, poof! Everything in her life before that happened became moot.

-------------

"Every day is the beginning of a New Year Zero, comrade! "

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (XTw2E)

180 Unless you are exercising. Then put them on. Move your bodies, people, in clothes that make you comfortable.

*disclosure- on the couch in leggings. But fresh ones since I taught cardio twice this morning. 2 classes to go!
Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (pZEOD)

SEE!!!?? This is how dangerous exercise is. It makes you a right-wing extremist!

Posted by: Every fat journalist at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (N1DT3)

181 Do any of people that are against men wearing shorts in public live in the Deep South? I almost never wore shorts in public when I lived in the north but can't imagine going around here to parks or outdoor events in 95F temps.

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (GUOwU)

182 heat rash and friction sores.

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (m7sTw)

183 Damn, I wish these leftists could get the polices they advocate without destroying the rest of us.

Posted by: Ripley

I mean, if they had their own separate sandbox that didn't affect us, great. Let them have, call it the People's Republic of Delmarva, and leave the rest for decent folk.

Except that's not how they roll, is it...

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (OUMaO)

184 171 While horribly tragic, there's little funnier than watching some flip-flopped bros get into a fight and then see a yard sale of flops strewn about post ruckus.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

Especially when they all return to retrieve them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

Polos askew, each asking, "This one yours or mine?"

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3)

185 Updated definition- likes to party, is a bit messy. Doesn’t really care.
Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:27 AM (pZEOD)
++++
Yet, if I had to guess, the sense of entitlement is even higher.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (HnUIn)

186 Once again the Roundheads and Crazy Quakers have to get their way cuz tolerance.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (FmapG)

187 Dems aren't bothering to discuss fracking and the environment much, so here's some random nonsense to mock:

@McJesse “How can a black woman also be Indian???”
“If a woman has high testosterone does that make her male???”
-The people trying to ban race and gender studies.

"Just asking questions", and terrified of the answers.

Trump pwned in Daily Kos political cartoon: https://tinyurl.com/3abnn488
Who says the Left can't meme?

Actually, on the topic of the “Trust Me, I’m Lying” gambit, the far Left doesn't trust Kamala, as these Ted Rall cartoons show:
https://tinyurl.com/y9z6747z
https://tinyurl.com/453wcs7s

And, a word of caution from The Bulwark in this article Trump Could Do a Mass Deportation. We’ve Done It Before. Don’t count on the courts to stand in his way.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (JCZqz)

188 If Kamaila picks Shipiro, it's a sign of desperation.

Not that "favored son" as VP wins the state. But, here, it'll give additional "plausibility" to the massive steal they need.
Meaning, they need more than the usual fraud, but not too much more.

If she picks Kelly, it's outright panic.
Because it means he has WI and the only way to stop Trump then is to keep AZ.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (XBPvm)

189 Anyone knows that black nylon knee socks go best with sandals.
Posted by: Pasty, Fat, German Tourist at August 05, 2024 11:16 AM

Oxfords, sir. Oxfords.

Posted by: Bermudians at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (ZANHd)

190 After that first debate they told the Washington Generals(Romney) to take it easy

Posted by: steevy at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (HJ9BW)

191 Another Josh Shapiro problem, too. (He's the mirror image of Harris when it comes to flip-flopping and truthfulness):

Fast Company, 08-02-2024, Impact
Josh Shapiro has become a VP frontrunner—but his history with fracking is a big environmental concern
The potential VP pick was tough on fracking as attorney general. But as governor, he’s courted the oil and gas industry.

Josh absolutely stinks on illegal immigration, too, but notice only NYC, Denver, Chicago play poor us, "we need $" which fits perfectly into the Husk's half witted immigration plan.

PA keeps illegal immigrants and bad actor citizen problem in section 8 rentals & motels mostly immediately outside of the major cities. It's difficult to get honest numbers of how many individuals are involved though crime is ever increasing; it's becoming impossible to get medical appointments in less than months; there are continuous community food collection & distribution programs, and the average K-12 schools are going to hell & vaguely managed by overpaid public administrators.

All public programs needs interpreters & $ despite seeming to p*ss through the wealth of C19 $ & drug settlement distributions.

W/o fracking 🤷

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (NFX2v)

192 While horribly tragic, there's little funnier than watching some flip-flopped bros get into a fight and then see a yard sale of flops strewn about post ruckus.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (KbCG3)
++++
"Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (HnUIn)

193 Piper Sandals....the best Jerusalem cruisers. I have a brown pair, and black pair for formal occasions. I'd wear them at work if I didn't have to go on the floor or climb on the aircraft.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (DIB8X)

194 *disclosure- on the couch in leggings. But fresh ones since I taught cardio twice this morning. 2 classes to go!
Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (pZEOD)

SEE!!!?? This is how dangerous exercise is. It makes you a right-wing extremist!
Posted by: Every fat journalist

Remember: Richard Simmons is dead. Keith Richards still lives. Choose accordingly.

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (OUMaO)

195 Fourth place shorts are ok.

Fighting in North Africa.

https://tinyurl.com/ynrfbdxa
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (3fGPY)

The LRDG and SAS have entered the chat.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (K861k)

196 Commie-La only opens her mouth for two reasons, one of which is to lie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (5Djh4)

197 While horribly tragic, there's little funnier than watching some flip-flopped bros get into a fight and then see a yard sale of flops strewn about post ruckus.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (KbCG3)
++++
"Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Can you describe the ruckus?

Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (OUMaO)

198 183 Damn, I wish these leftists could get the polices they advocate without destroying the rest of us.

Posted by: Ripley
---------------------
Law of Lincoln killed states. So now everything is Brinksmanship. Turning the Constitution into a Suicide Pact has consequences.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (FmapG)

199 And, a word of caution from The Bulwark in this article Trump Could Do a Mass Deportation. We’ve Done It Before. Don’t count on the courts to stand in his way.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

Operation Wetback under Ike.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (3fGPY)

200
If she picks Kelly, it's outright panic.
Because it means he has WI and the only way to stop Trump then is to keep AZ.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (XBPvm)

Is he picks the Minn Gov she's really in trouble

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (IyPmt)

201 Remember: Richard Simmons is dead. Keith Richards still lives. Choose accordingly.
Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (OUMaO)
++++
Yes, absolutely.

Posted by: The entire "27 Club" at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)

202 192 While horribly tragic, there's little funnier than watching some flip-flopped bros get into a fight and then see a yard sale of flops strewn about post ruckus.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

++++
"Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (HnUIn)

Staple of my vernacular. I encourage all to adopt it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (KbCG3)

203 Fourth place shorts are ok.

Fighting in North Africa.

https://tinyurl.com/ynrfbdxa
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024

***
The Rat Patrol agrees

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (J2vNu)

204 Is he picks the Minn Gov she's really in trouble
Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM (IyPmt)

If she... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (IyPmt)

205 Shorts?
What, you work for UPS?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (m7sTw)

206 Project 2025 will mandate fat women cannot wear yoga pants in public.

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (GUOwU)

207 Mollie Hemingway murdered prospective first gentleman Doug Emhoff!

Doug Emhoff
@DouglasEmhoff
I remember when @KamalaHarris called to tell me about the Supreme Court’s decision on Dobbs. The first thing I thought about was my daughter. As a dad and as a husband, I’m going to do everything I can to speak out and help advance reproductive freedom.

Mollie
@MZHemingway
So your first thought was that if your daughter was used by a man like you used her nanny, you'd want to do everything you could so that man would be able to likewise avoid accountability for what he'd done? FATHER OF THE YEAR, there, Doug.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (L/fGl)

208 Ruckus? What does a wireless AP have to do with this conversation?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (tT6L1)

209
Trump pwned in Daily Kos political cartoon: https://tinyurl.com/3abnn488
Who says the Left can't meme?

Narrator voice: "They can't and that's a perfect example."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

210 This warrior brunette in chain mail puts great value on the truth:
http://tiny.cc/nurdzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:34 AM (HnUIn)

211 Mollie
@MZHemingway
So your first thought was that if your daughter was used by a man like you used her nanny, you'd want to do everything you could so that man would be able to likewise avoid accountability for what he'd done? FATHER OF THE YEAR, there, Doug.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (L/fGl)

Perfect

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:34 AM (IyPmt)

212 @MZHemingway
So your first thought was that if your daughter was used by a man like you used her nanny, you'd want to do everything you could so that man would be able to likewise avoid accountability for what he'd done? FATHER OF THE YEAR, there, Doug.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (L/fGl)
++++
Ouch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)

213 I am stunned that nobody has knocked the snot out of one of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (d9fT1)

They all need to be gut-shot, and rolled into a ditch to bleed out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (5Djh4)

214 I'll wear whatever the fuck I want to wear. Clothing nazis can eat shit.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (g8Ew8)

215 Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

It's talk like Festus day!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (m7sTw)

216 I'll admit that the British Eighth Army in N Africa in WWII wore the short pants well

damnably hot, what

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (/7KEl)

217 I wasn't tuned into flip-flops too much. They were, I learned, a necessary part of communal living i.e., not hippie pads (though probably smart) but for Barracks. No matter how much soap or disinfectant is used, Plantar warts and other fungus like Athlete's foot or nail rot ensues.

What I failed to appreciate was the barrel of $1 a pair at the checkout in a Hawaiian 7-11 was apparently the height of the craft of a mature technology. I should have purchased a dozen. This pair lasted about 20 years or more and were comfortable. The replacements are just pale imitation in material and construction. They last less than a year with any use. Jeeze.

Of course one can buy bespoke open toe stuff. Teva and others were big at one time. River rafters and assorted scrofulous desert rats figured that out too.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (aOYfI)

218 Bangladeshi prime minister resigns, flees country as demonstrators storm her official residence

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Sexism! Pure sexism!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (L/fGl)

219 Can you describe the ruckus?
Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling and love the Protestant Reformation at August 05, 2024 11:32 AM

*shakes fist*

You gotta be fast around here.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (ZANHd)

220 209
Trump pwned in Daily Kos political cartoon: https://tinyurl.com/3abnn488
Who says the Left can't meme?

Narrator voice: "They can't and that's a perfect example."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

So, Kamala tried renting an apartment Trump owned?

Is this what we're supposed to believe? Applying for an apartment in a Trump building turns you black?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (KbCG3)

221 Do any of people that are against men wearing shorts in public live in the Deep South? I almost never wore shorts in public when I lived in the north but can't imagine going around here to parks or outdoor events in 95F temps.
Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024

***
I live in one of the foulest climates in the Deep South (unfortunately) and I solve the problem you mention very simply. I don't go to parks or outdoor events from March to December. (Which pretty much means all of them.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

222 When truth becomes a convenience, awareness of the costs and implications of that convenience must be set aside. Those who believe lies with no awareness scream the loudest when truth bites them in the ass.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * unburdened at August 05, 2024 11:36 AM (ZxfOG)

223 215 Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

It's talk like Festus day!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and

Ruckus gets said all the time here. Is it a Deep South thing?

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:36 AM (p4NUW)

224 What, you work for UPS?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (m7sTw)

I did 30 years ago loading trucks. We wore shorts in the middle of winter. 4 hour workout 5 days a week.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 05, 2024 11:36 AM (K861k)

225 Forget shorts, let’s talk about yoga pants. They were designed with a certain type of female in mind.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

https://tinyurl.com/4d4rxk4r

Basic white girl influencers on YouTube and other social media showing off their Kamala toe for views?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 05, 2024 11:37 AM (JCZqz)

226 The Marcellus Shale formation runs into the southern tier of upstate NY. A city like Binghamton would be a boomtown if fracking were allowed in this state . Granny killer Cuomo banned it and Hochul is a corrupt lump of stupid who shows no sign of changing direction

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2024 11:37 AM (kCLO6)

227 Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

It's talk like Festus day!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (m7sTw)

Fracas needs to make a comeback as well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

228 like you used her nanny,

That was no nanny that was Ernest Borgnine.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:37 AM (m7sTw)

229 What is Kamala's version of "I won't cum in your mouth"?

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (qgGJ7)

230 "Trump pwned in Daily Kos political cartoon: https://tinyurl.com/3abnn488
Who says the Left can't meme?"

That makes no sense or is humorous on any level that I can discern. That did not help their cause.

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (GUOwU)

231 210 This warrior brunette in chain mail puts great value on the truth:
http://tiny.cc/nurdzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:34 AM (HnUIn)

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OK, I like a cheesecake photo as much as the next guy, but I just can't get past the impracticality of that armor in battle.

Posted by: No One Of Consequence at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (F4bAW)

232 "Every day is the beginning of a New Year Zero, comrade! "
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at August 05, 2024 11:30 AM (XTw2E)

It's frightening how the media pushes this.

If history is inconvenient, it doesn't exist.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (N1DT3)

233 227 Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

It's talk like Festus day!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (m7sTw)

Fracas needs to make a comeback as well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

A kerfuffle invariably leads to a ruckus, which can devolve into a fracas.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (KbCG3)

234 This warrior brunette in chain mail puts great value on the truth:
http://tiny.cc/nurdzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:34 AM (HnUIn)

I'd share my foxhole with her.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (g8Ew8)

235 I put the odds of a Trump-Harris debate at 0%.

1) She absolutely cannot be allowed to speak off-script. Yes, she can have the questions in advance. Yes, she can give pre-scripted responses to all. But, she still comes of so extremely stupid.

2) Trump is the only Republican that will ever say the following, "your party has said they'll give reparations to families of slaves. But your family hasn't given back a dime they made off of their slaves."
She can't afford the issue of her family owing slaves to be brought up--Trump will bring it up.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (XBPvm)

236 OK, I like a cheesecake photo as much as the next guy, but I just can't get past the impracticality of that armor in battle.
Posted by: No One Of Consequence at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (F4bAW)
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I figured that this one was ideal for the Horde for exactly this reason.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (HnUIn)

237 Why does every single female anchor on CNN has resting bitch face?

Posted by: Jim Rose at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (miqrx)

238
So, Kamala tried renting an apartment Trump owned?

Is this what we're supposed to believe? Applying for an apartment in a Trump building turns you black?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (KbCG3)

Trump owns high rent facilities. Democrats keep the black community down and poor so they can't afford to pay high rent.

Trump is bad.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

239 135
‘ If they install a second sock puppet, all bets are off and I would give it 6 months before the wheels come completely off’

If that happens, the wheels ought to come off.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (jbnUc)

240 Doug Emhoff
@DouglasEmhoff
I remember when @KamalaHarris called to tell me about the Supreme Court’s decision on Dobbs. The first thing I thought about was my daughter. As a dad and as a husband, I’m going to do everything I can to speak out and help advance reproductive freedom.

Have you SEEN your daughter? She's safe, dude.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (U7wke)

241 What is Kamala's version of "I won't cum in your mouth"?
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 1

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"I promise I won't nip"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (J2vNu)

242 I also like fracas.

Attorney: "And were you wounded in the fracas?"
Client: "Well, actually, between the fracas and the belly button."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (xPJvm)

243 206 Project 2025 will mandate fat women cannot wear yoga pants in public.
Posted by: Ripley

All fat women or are there age limitations? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (NFX2v)

244
A kerfuffle invariably leads to a ruckus, which can devolve into a fracas.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (KbCG3)

What a load of shenanigans!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

245 Ruckus" deserves greater usage than it receives.

It's talk like Festus day!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:35 AM (m7sTw)

Fracas needs to make a comeback as well.
Posted by: Sponge

Donnybrook & knock down drag out.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (3fGPY)

246 Him being elected the first time was explicable, his second election inexplicable.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:23 AM (XV/Pl)

I've wondered about that. The Obama voters I knew stuck with him and simply refused to acknowledge any of his disasters. We had a relative who knew about our financial situation and told us how great ObamaCare was going to be for people like us. She knew about it when our health insurance costs QUADRUPLED and my employer had to cut hours by 20% because they couldn't afford to provide the newly-required insurance, and she still thought it was wonderful how Obama was "helping" people afford their healthcare.

Posted by: Emmie at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (5kCS7)

247 Mabe England can get their Parliament to flee to Bangladesh

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (yTqdG)

248 Ruckus was an early 80's movie with Dirk Benedict playing a Vietnam vet who gets hassled by some small town cops and fights back. Came out a couple of years before First Blood.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (xPl2J)

249 Shorts are also popular for hiking even at altitude, and when it gets fairly cold too, or it works out that way. Down to about freezing. So long as there is no wind. During heavy exertion and hiking qualifies when carrying a pack, very little clothing is required to maintain the correct temperature. The idea is to avoid sweating and subsequent chill, that is pretty much deadly. Some hikers are more responsive through the day, always putting on or taking stuff off to suit conditions.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (aOYfI)

250 @DouglasEmhoff
I remember when @KamalaHarris called to tell me about the Supreme Court’s decision on Dobbs. The first thing I thought about was my daughter. As a dad and as a husband, I’m going to do everything I can to speak out and help advance reproductive freedom.

I thought his daughter was a unitard and wouldn't be having sex at any point anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

251 Do any of people that are against men wearing shorts in public live in the Deep South? I almost never wore shorts in public when I lived in the north but can't imagine going around here to parks or outdoor events in 95F temps.
Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024

Fine. Show me the pictures of John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Sam Houston et al. wearing shorts.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (v6JzV)

252 194 Remember: Richard Simmons is dead. Keith Richards still lives. Choose accordingly.
Posted by: Brother Tim learned to stop quibbling

The Lord does work in mysterious ways. I will take my chances on the side of exercise. 😀

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (p4NUW)

253 That makes no sense or is humorous on any level that I can discern. That did not help their cause.
Posted by: Ripley

These are key elements in Lefty political cartoons. If you can make the artwork ugly and off-putting, you've got the unholy trinity for syndication.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (JCZqz)

254 218 Bangladeshi prime minister resigns, flees country as demonstrators storm her official residence

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Sexism! Pure sexism!
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Will Maduro join her?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (FmapG)

255 Ruckus was an early 80's movie with Dirk Benedict playing a Vietnam vet who gets hassled by some small town cops and fights back. Came out a couple of years before First Blood.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (xPl2J)

FACE!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

256 Going to stores and seeing women in pajama pants and fuzzy house slippers makes my stomach flip a little, but seeing XXXL ladies wearing yoga pants when their ass is two axe handles wide has permanently burned my retinas.

Posted by: Delicate Disposition at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (CV8a5)

257 This warrior brunette in chain mail puts great value on the truth:
http://tiny.cc/nurdzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:34 AM (HnUIn)

I am second to none in my admiration for chainmail bikinis but I question the effectiveness of this.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (U7wke)

258 I was in a waiting room the other day and a gray haired but not very elderly gentleman walked in wearing a plaid shirt, a different plaid pair of shorts black mid calf socks and a pair of black tie on Florsheims. It was disturbing to my sensibilities.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (fHlDq)

259 OK, here's the rule. You can wear shorts if you're carrying a machine gun.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (L/fGl)

260 Apparently, Sherrod Brown has announced that he will not be attending the DNC

Posted by: SMOD at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (RHGPo)

261 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (J2vNu

LOL

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (qgGJ7)

262 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE!

390,000,000 Americas were surveyed;

Question: Who is the bestest, most wonderfullest, awesomest, presidential canidate of 2024!!

Kamala Harris: 11,000%

Orange Man Bad: 0.0000%

Posted by: SEriOus poLlinG grOuP InC! at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (5hfjS)

263 Attorney: "And were you wounded in the fracas?"
Client: "Well, actually, between the fracas and the belly button."
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM

Nora: It says you were shot twice in the tabloids.

Nick: Nonsense, he didn't hit anywhere near my tabloids.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (ZANHd)

264 Who is Barry going to pick for his VP candidate?

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (rj6Yv)

265 Fine. Show me the pictures of John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Sam Houston et al. wearing shorts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (v6JzV)

When you have to go back to the 1800's fashion to make your case........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

266 Bangladeshi prime minister resigns, flees country as demonstrators storm her official residence

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Sexism! Pure sexism!

She was not positioned for success. Maybe Kumala could've given her a few pointers?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (K861k)

267 Have you SEEN your daughter? She's safe, dude.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (U7wke)
++++
She's 25. That's still in prime territory. It doesn't matter that she's homely. If she wants it, she can *easily* get it. She can saunter into any bar in the land between midnight and one o'clock and find someone who is more than willing to take her home and throw a bone into her. Getting someone to marry her is a different story - and one that is not entirely due to her looks - but getting a hot beef injection? She'll struggle not at all.

Thus part of daddy's concern, I'm sure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (HnUIn)

268 264 Who is Barry going to pick for his VP candidate?
Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (rj6Yv)

My monies on the bald fat astronaut from AZ

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (IyPmt)

269 20 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

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Thirded. Shorts are for exercising or working in one's yard (I guess, never having had a "yard" of my own). If you go to a store or out to lunch or dinner? Pants, even if they're jeans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

I have refused to wear 'shorts' either in public or private since sometime around 7th grade.

I am considerably older than 29....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (QGaXH)

270 Some hikers are more responsive through the day, always putting on or taking stuff off to suit conditions.
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I do that while driving except I use my A/C and Heater.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (FmapG)

271 This warrior brunette in chain mail puts great value on the truth:
http://tiny.cc/nurdzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024
*
I am second to none in my admiration for chainmail bikinis but I question the effectiveness of this.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024

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Oh, it's effective, all right. Just not in actual warfare.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (J2vNu)

272 forget the polls: You'll know how well Kamala's campaign is doing based on her moves.

Who she picks as VP, what states she visits the most between now and November, how often she/her campaign changes their slogans and tactics against Trump.

No unstable campaign has ever won. A few stable ones have lost, but you'll never see one win that spent the election season flailing and trying anything to make something stick.

Posted by: Shenanigans at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (pZ0Mr)

273 We had a relative who knew about our financial situation and told us how great ObamaCare was going to be for people like us. She knew about it when our health insurance costs QUADRUPLED and my employer had to cut hours by 20% because they couldn't afford to provide the newly-required insurance, and she still thought it was wonderful how Obama was "helping" people afford their healthcare.
Posted by: Emmie

Article on Daily Kos right now: Obamacare is stronger than ever. Trump and Vance vow to kill it
by Joan McCarter
Daily Kos Staff

Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (JCZqz)

274 The thing about the Trump rentals is Fred Trump was sued for not renting to black tenants in NY in the 70's and because DJT was part of the organization they change it to "Donald Trump Refused to Rent to Black People".

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (qgGJ7)

275 Can She Successfully Pull Off The “Trust Me, I’m Lying”

Given that the media is ready to spring into action and explain away everything to keep you from believing your lying eyes, yes.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (99eI0)

276 OK, I like a cheesecake photo as much as the next guy, but I just can't get past the impracticality of that armor in battle.
Posted by: No One Of Consequence at August 05, 2024 11:38 AM (F4bAW)

It's to stop the guys from fighting her and start fighting over her.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (0eaVi)

277 Hrumpf!

Posted by: Anti-shorts old gumps at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (Y1sOo)

278 Going to stores and seeing women in pajama pants and fuzzy house slippers makes my stomach flip a little, but seeing XXXL ladies wearing yoga pants when their ass is two axe handles wide has permanently burned my retinas.
Posted by: Delicate Disposition at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (CV8a5)

When your ass looks like all the star constellations at once, you should avoid showing it off......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

279 @207

>>So your first thought was that if your daughter was used by a man like you used her nanny, you'd want to do everything you could so that man would be able to likewise avoid accountability for what he'd done? FATHER OF THE YEAR, there, Doug.

Dude, they are running ads in PA of a "concerned father," fretting that his daughter won't have the ability to murder his grandchild in utero.

The people are evil and completely out of their f**king minds.

And that's half of our country.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (XV/Pl)

280 Shorts?
What, you work for UPS?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 11:33 AM (m7sTw)

***

I am a Bermudan at heart

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (1FWWQ)

281 Colorado Politics: Willie Brown thinks Harris should keep people ‘guessing’ about her ideology, Jack Birle, Washington Examiner Jul 31, 2024

Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown offered his advice for Vice President Kamala Harris as she battles former President Donald Trump, including keeping people "guessing" about her ideology.

Harris and Brown dated in the 1990s, and around the time the two were in a relationship, she was appointed to two California boards. Brown has also supported Harris in subsequent races. The former mayor told Politico that while he is no longer directly in touch with the vice president, he has several suggestions as she seeks to win the presidency.

Brown said that President Joe Biden should step down to allow her to show how she would be as president prior to the election, to avoid making her identity her central campaign pitch, and to embrace her unclear ideological tilt.

“If she keeps people continually guessing, then she can adjust the interpretation of your guess every time she sees you,” Brown said.
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June 12, 2024, America250 Debuts New “Ambassador Circle”

It includes Willie Brown, San Francisco CA

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (NFX2v)

282 Actually, I usually do yard work wearing jeans. Protects the legs from projectiles if I'm mowing, and from mosquitoes and other bugs in general.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (v6JzV)

Did a lot of weed whacking yesterday. Wore jeans, and high leather work boots, jeans outside the boot tops. Protected my legs and feet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (5Djh4)

283 All Kamala has to do is west a plaid shirt in an ad and she will easily win the blue collar vote. It works for Manchin and Tester every election.

Posted by: How it is at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (JpMki)

284 225 Basic white girl influencers on YouTube and other social media showing off their Kamala toe for views?
Posted by: Moron Analyst

That is very bad. Yikes. I will definitely do a squat test, but this is something else entirely.

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (p4NUW)

285 260 Apparently, Sherrod Brown has announced that he will not be attending the DNC
Posted by: SMOD at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (RHGPo)

=======

Damn.

Imagine a Midwest where elections were secure like in OH.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (GBKbO)

286 Yo Skip.

In 15 minutes it can be lunchtime.

Posted by: Lady Who Lives Her Life in 2-Hour Increments at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (JCLJi)

287 Actual photo of Albert Einstein dressed as a man living in Colorado

https://tinyurl.com/yt69e8tt

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (/7KEl)

288 #KamalaCrash is trending No. 1 on X.

I think her honeymoon is over.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (LkLld)

289 My monies on the bald fat astronaut from AZ
Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (IyPmt)

I sincerely doubt it due to the whole "weird" thing.

That guy is weirder than a barrel of monkeys playing parcheesi.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (qgGJ7)

290 251 Do any of people that are against men wearing shorts in public live in the Deep South? I almost never wore shorts in public when I lived in the north but can't imagine going around here to parks or outdoor events in 95F temps.
Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024

Fine. Show me the pictures of John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Sam Houston et al. wearing shorts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (v6JzV)

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I put that into an AI image generator. The results were... disappointing. The faces were downright horrifying.

Posted by: No One Of Consequence at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (F4bAW)

291 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
*
Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024
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Ah, the George Will/Charlie Sykes gambit.
Take a strong "fight me" stance on an issue of no importance whatsoever and claim that anyone who disagrees is a lesser.
George had his pants issue like you two.
Sykes had fake Christmas trees.

Titans of conservatism, so good company

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (FCbAQ)

292 The problem with shorts are biting insects and prickly plants.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (rj6Yv)

293 All Kamala has to do is west a plaid shirt in an ad and she will easily win the blue collar vote. It works for Manchin and Tester every election.
Posted by: How it is at August 05, 2024 11:45 AM (JpMki)
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Until someone didn't. All it requires is a bit of contrast. The Iowa state fair during the 2016 campaign was illustrative. All the candidates from all the parties showed up in their brand new blue jeans and starched flannel shirts to pretend like they were people, when Trump landed in his helicopter and stepped out in his New York suit.

Immediately provided visceral evidence of just how phony the rest of the field was.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:47 AM (HnUIn)

294 I distinctly heard a ruckus.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:47 AM (qgGJ7)

295 Fine. Show me the pictures of John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Sam Houston et al. wearing shorts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:40 AM (v6JzV)

I assume, then, that you wear a coat and boots at all times and only travel via horse?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:47 AM (U7wke)

296
Dude, they are running ads in PA of a "concerned father," fretting that his daughter won't have the ability to murder his grandchild in utero.

The people are evil and completely out of their f**king minds.

And that's half of our country.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2024 11:44 AM (XV/Pl)

Some dem PAC in Texas is running ads with 2 female nurses stating how they can't vote for Ted Cruz because he agrees with the Texas abortion ban and they just don't feel safe being a woman in Texas anymore.

Because they might get raped, or become a victim of incest and evil Ted Cruz would force them to flee Texas to get an abortion.

Because we should be worried about that .01% chance of that happening........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

297 256 Going to stores and seeing women in pajama pants and fuzzy house slippers makes my stomach flip a little, but seeing XXXL ladies wearing yoga pants when their ass is two axe handles wide has permanently burned my retinas.
Posted by: Delicate Disposition at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (CV8a5)

Shop at Walmart much?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2024 11:47 AM (N39Ws)

298 266 Bangladeshi prime minister resigns, flees country as demonstrators storm her official residence

An Asian woman removed from political power? You don't see that much these days, do you?

Posted by: The DNC at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (pIfcn)

299 No one ever said, 'there stands Jackson in Bermuda shorts.'

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (FmapG)

300 Gilligan's Island is on....

I don't see any of the men wearing shorts.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (QGaXH)

301 I distinctly heard a ruckus.
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:47 AM

Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

Posted by: Brian at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (ZANHd)

302 Some dem PAC in Texas is running ads with 2 female nurses stating how they can't vote for Ted Cruz because he agrees with the Texas abortion ban and they just don't feel safe being a woman in Texas anymore.

Doesn't feel safe in TX? Move. GTFO. Problem solved.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (N39Ws)

303 Sykes had fake Christmas trees.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

If he was against them, I can support him in that. My family in Michigan had a Christmas-tree farm. We hated the fake trees.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (v6JzV)

304 Who is Barry going to pick for his VP candidate?
Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 11:42 AM (rj6Yv)

Finally. Someone who recognizes the true candidacy.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (g8Ew8)

305 I dug into the internals of the latest CBS poll that showed Harris up by 1.

A couple of major issues with their methodology. First, they weight it. Bullshit. Second, they weight it based on electoral models built on 2020 and 2022.

With massive election rule changes in GA (where they also released results), it's a serious question about why they would assume similar results. Plus, the whole mail in balloting thing is going to be far less.

They're playing games with polls. Just like always. It's not new.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
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Did you find the partisan breakdown? I skimmed looking for it and it was not in the typical places I find them in poll data.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (GZYu7)

306 The problem with shorts are biting insects and prickly plants.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (rj6Yv)

And sliding into second base

Posted by: Former Chicago White Sox Player at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (xPl2J)

307 STG, that's the tragedy of all this. Modern politics is scripted almost completely revolving around myriad issues that have all been artificially contrived.

All of them. It is literally insane to operate this way, but here we are. Energy is of course a huge component, and has been for years because it is a lynchpin or keystone to so much that follows.

Safe to say that America the US of A is the envy of the world in so many ways. Food production - farmland alone is priceless. Then the timber, oil, coal, gas, minerals. America is the Saudi Arabia of Coal. Known and proven reserves of high quality coal are probably 500 years. Alaska is a whole nother subject.

Our leaders though, are talking about eating bugs, transfer payments to people living in pods who have no jobs (Sure, Jan) rechargeable cars, and fine-tuning the weather 100 years from now.

None of this is necessary. None of this is inevitable, but nobody seems too inclined to try and stop any of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (aOYfI)

308 Gilligan's Island is on....

I don't see any of the men wearing shorts.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (QGaXH)

Holy shit!!!!! I BETTER GO BURN ALL MY PAIRS OF SHORTS NOW!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

309 Thanks for the essay, Buck. The comments veered off pretty quickly to "flip flops are an abomination after age 12" and the "shorts/long pants wars". I had no idea the male hordians were so fashion conscious.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (dTTBf)

310 "Do any of people that are against men wearing shorts in public live in the Deep South?"

Yes.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (MkuC5)

311 Yo Skip.

In 15 minutes it can be lunchtime.
Posted by: Lady Who Lives Her Life in 2-Hour Increments at August 05, 2024

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Half an hour for me. And since I had to fast this morning for a blood draw, and only ate breakfast at 8:15, this lunch seems like an early one!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (J2vNu)

312 305 Did you find the partisan breakdown? I skimmed looking for it and it was not in the typical places I find them in poll data.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (GZYu7)

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That's what I was looking for. I couldn't find it, but I didn't read it that closely.

It's, like, 100 pages.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

313 Let he who hasn't boffed a nanny, maid, cleaning lady, or other domestic help throw the first stone.

Posted by: Uncle Pervy at August 05, 2024 11:50 AM (CV8a5)

314 Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2024 11:18 AM (u73oe)

I buy churidar instead. Admittedly, modern churidar made from elasticized knit fabric are functionally identical to yoga pants.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 05, 2024 11:50 AM (s9EYN)

315 Kamala commercial here says that she will fight until reproductive rights are restored in every state in the nation. Because apparently the SC no longer allows people to reproduce.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (fHlDq)

316 With 5 out of 5 black barbers stating they're voting Trump make me think the polls are all bullshit.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (FmapG)

317 FL went from swing state to solid red because DeSantis cleaned up Broward County and Miami.

I suspect the "normal levels of fraud" are a lot higher than people want to believe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Excluding 2020 which is the current high mark for fraud, my scientific wag is normal fraud in a general election is about ten to fifteen percent. 2020, my guess it was roughly 20 percent.

That includes paying actual voters to hand over their ballot to be filled in, inserting fraudulent votes by harvesting mail in ballots from the USPS dead letter office that have no valid address nor resident, capturing mail in ballots sent en masse to large apartment buildings, dorms, etc. Scanning existing ballots over and over again election night, and possibly some jiggery pokery on electronic voting tabulation. No one has ever had a credible explanation other than the Code Ninja findings in 2020 Georgia elections where Edison (the media feed from the tabulators--the other went to SoS offices) showed votes being subtracted and added in real time. That can never happen according to the tabulator software folks as votes are additive--not something subtracted.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (qdbNv)

318 I think her honeymoon is over.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (LkLld)

What would make the honeymoon crash? Some more people actually looked into her record?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (dTTBf)

319 Some dem PAC in Texas is running ads with 2 female nurses stating how they can't vote for Ted Cruz because he agrees with the Texas abortion ban and they just don't feel safe being a woman in Texas anymore.

Because they might get raped, or become a victim of incest and evil Ted Cruz would force them to flee Texas to get an abortion.

Because we should be worried about that .01% chance of that happening........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024

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Then they can drive or fly to a state that does permit that. Where's the problem?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (J2vNu)

320 No one ever said, 'there stands Jackson in Bermuda shorts.'
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:48 AM (FmapG)

Rumor has it that Jackson wore shorts at Chancellorsville. Big mistake!

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (rj6Yv)

321 20 Willowed: A gentleman does not wear short pants in public.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
*
Or any adult male.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024

and men in jeans!!! in public???? uggggggghhhh!!!!

*faints"

Posted by: George Will at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)

322 I live in the AZ desert and I'm against men wearing shorts in public.

I'm also against guys with basketball size beer guts going shirtless in public.

But, I see it anyway.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:52 AM (tT6L1)

323 303 Sykes had fake Christmas trees.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

If he was against them, I can support him in that. My family in Michigan had a Christmas-tree farm. We hated the fake trees.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August

Do you know how difficult it is to keep 2 cats who are 40% African Serval out of real trees? It’s bad enough with a fake one.

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 11:52 AM (p4NUW)

324 258 I was in a waiting room the other day and a gray haired but not very elderly gentleman walked in wearing a plaid shirt, a different plaid pair of shorts black mid calf socks and a pair of black tie on Florsheims. It was disturbing to my sensibilities.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 05, 2024 11:41 AM (fHlDq)

On casual Friday's I would routinely go to work wearing a plaid, buttoned cotton shirt and a flannel over-shirt - I had a female co-worker who would routinely chastise me for my selection of attire...I didn't care....(I was a senior engineer)

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:52 AM (QGaXH)

325 If Emhoff is so concerned with protecting his daughter, what did he ever do to the person who beat her with the Ugly Stick? Cuz that attack must have lasted for days.

Posted by: Wally at August 05, 2024 11:52 AM (hqVaF)

326 288 #KamalaCrash is trending No. 1 on X.

I think her honeymoon is over.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 11:46 AM (LkLld)

So she's going to take it on the chin? Almost like to old days?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (N39Ws)

327 With 5 out of 5 black barbers stating they're voting Trump make me think the polls are all bullshit.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024

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I heard about one of the MSM outlets interviewing several black men at a barbershop. The interviewer didn't get the answer he wanted (i.e., "KH all the way"), so the interviewees were not allowed to talk any more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (J2vNu)

328 316 With 5 out of 5 black barbers stating they're voting Trump make me think the polls are all bullshit.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Right now, they are mainly useful to determine whatever the fake narrative that the media will be employing in the next week. Trends are about the only thing you can get from them and even there most media partnered polling is simply atrocious. Wait for the likely voter screens after Labor Day for a glimpse of what trends are out there.

If you cannot access the polling methodology used for a particular polling outfit and its polls, then it is trash, pure and simple.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (qdbNv)

329 I was starting to worry about Skip on Saturday. His normal "it can be lunchtime" is between 11:04 AM and 11:45 AM. On Saturday, I think it was after 1 PM!

Posted by: Keeping Score at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (CV8a5)

330 Then they can drive or fly to a state that does permit that. Where's the problem?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (J2vNu)
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New Mexico proudly proclaims they're an abortion rights state on their border signs. Yeah, those nurses might have to drive 10 hours to get there, but, it can be done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (tT6L1)

331 PA is among the abortion sanctuary states. Airports abound.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (NFX2v)

332 ***
Then they can drive or fly to a state that does permit that. Where's the problem?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (J2vNu)

But Texas is a BIG STATE and they might have to drive for HOURS to murder the unborn!!! That's just cruel and unusual.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

333 Article on Daily Kos right now: Obamacare is stronger than ever. Trump and Vance vow to kill it
by Joan McCarter
Daily Kos Staff
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (JCZqz)

Exactly.

It's stronger alright. The funneling of people into Medicaid was what allowed the government to require "rundeathisnear" treatment for Covid patients even though it was killing so many of them. If a hospital didn't follow the deadly Covid protocol the fedgov would withhold Medicare/Medicaid payments. The government yanked providers around by the purse strings. There is much blood on their hands, including Obama's.

Posted by: Emmie at August 05, 2024 11:53 AM (5kCS7)

334 The people on the SS Minnow had an amazing wardrobe for a three hour tour.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (kCLO6)

335 I heard a ruckus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEHczKoBM5s&t=1s

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (iODuv)

336 Etymology:

"Donnybrook Fair dates from a charter of King John of England in 1204 and was held annually until 1855. It began as a fair for livestock and agricultural produce but later declined, growing into more of a carnival and funfair. Drunkenness, fighting, and hasty marriages became commonplace."

650 years, pretty good run.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (XeU6L)

337 Wait for the likely voter screens after Labor Day for a glimpse of what trends are out there.
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And we haven't seen the bottom of the sell off yet.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (FmapG)

338 267 Have you SEEN your daughter? She's safe, dude.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 11:39 AM (U7wke)
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She's 25. That's still in prime territory. It doesn't matter that she's homely. If she wants it, she can *easily* get it. She can saunter into any bar in the land between midnight and one o'clock and find someone who is more than willing to take her home and throw a bone into her. Getting someone to marry her is a different story - and one that is not entirely due to her looks - but getting a hot beef injection? She'll struggle not at all.

Thus part of daddy's concern, I'm sure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (HnUIn)

Didn't she come out as trans or gay or some such trendy alt-gender?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (QGaXH)

339 i[]Let he who hasn't boffed a nanny, maid, cleaning lady, or other domestic help throw the first stone.
Posted by: Uncle Pervy at August 05, 2024 11:50 AM

Er, ah...I'm right heah, you know.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (ZANHd)

340 Reproductive Rights is one of my fave commie formulations.

As always, is the exact opposite of what it means.

But they can't call it Termination Rights. Doesn't sound very appealing. I wonder why that name doesn't appeal to people. Someone should ask.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (qgGJ7)

341 Market crashes are always fueled by self fulfilling prophecies. First you have the true sky is falling Ivy league numbskulls who start it and then their machines which exasperates it and then the smart guys who take advantage of it making it worse .

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (B1dzx)

342 >>I was in a waiting room the other day and a gray haired but not very elderly gentleman walked in wearing a plaid shirt, a different plaid pair of shorts black mid calf socks and a pair of black tie on Florsheims.

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do do do doot
da doot
da doot
can't touch this

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (/7KEl)

343 Watching WW2 videos of British troops fighting in shorts in Burma and North Africa sets my teeth on edge.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (MkuC5)

344 There's a sign on I-70 in Missouri saying come to Illinois for all your abortions. Abortion tourism, if you will.

Posted by: brak at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (25k9m)

345 The comments veered off pretty quickly to "flip flops are an abomination after age 12" and the "shorts/long pants wars". I had no idea the male hordians were so fashion conscious.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2024

***
I grew up with Robert Vaughn's Napoleon Solo as my fashion hero. Hell, McCallum's Illya with his turtleneck under a suit was better dressed than many people today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (J2vNu)

346 343 Watching WW2 videos of British troops fighting in shorts in Burma and North Africa sets my teeth on edge.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (MkuC5)

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Did the King not demand decorum from his troops?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO)

347 So where are all the Trump commercials effectively eviscerating Harris? This is a once-in-a-generation, target-rich candidate, yet all I see are lame GOP attack ads that look like the same losing efforts we've seen for the last thirty years.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (qUkBO)

348
Thus part of daddy's concern, I'm sure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:43 AM (HnUIn)

Didn't she come out as trans or gay or some such trendy alt-gender?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (QGaXH)

Like I said, I thought she came out as a unitard some time ago and there was no chance of her having reproductorial sex.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)

349 326 288 #KamalaCrash is trending No. 1 on X.

I think her honeymoon is over.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Weird DNC photo with Kamala just dropped inserted into a crowd waving Michelle signs.

Could be from 2012 but dunno. Weird. If not a past photo then , the Dems might be ready for switcheroo no. 3 to Mooch at the convention. That would also account for Kamala getting all of Obama's reruns taking over key positions in the campaign. I don't think Kamala has such a thing as loyalists because of her awful personality.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (qdbNv)

350 The oil shocks, the embargos, the devaluation of the dollar in the 1970s really set the stage for the untethered currency markets. Deficit borrowing and spending.

"Deficits don't matter". Cheney was talking about them as they pertain to political campaigns. That's the context.

When was the last time any politician talked about balance of trade, favorable or otherwise? The US went negative in 1974 or thereabouts and never looked back.

Wages have been stagnant since 1974 too. Nobody could have seen this coming, recall. They were insistent at the time, the "experts" that a combination of high monetary inflation and unemployment could not exist together. Impossible.

You'll never guess what happened!

America should be sending tourist flights to the Moon and back as routine by now. Instead, they squandered everything.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (aOYfI)

351 Didn't she come out as trans or gay or some such trendy alt-gender?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (QGaXH)
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Even if she did, that makes no difference. Such crap is for public consumption. If she's interested in some sexy time, you can be sure she won't mention it to the dude who has his beer goggles strapped on.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (HnUIn)

352 and men in jeans!!! in public???? uggggggghhhh!!!!

*faints"
Posted by: George Will at August 05, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)

I don't wear dungarees either, but I don't care if others do. Just no jorts.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (0eaVi)

353 Flip flops are for the beach or shower.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2024 11:57 AM (y1Cv5)

354 The people on the SS Minnow had an amazing wardrobe for a three hour tour.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (kCLO6)

Only the women. Skipper, Professor and Gilligan wore the same shit every day.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

355 ... When was the last time any politician talked about balance of trade, favorable or otherwise? The US went negative in 1974 or thereabouts and never looked back. ...
Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (aOYfI)
++++
Ross Perot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:57 AM (HnUIn)

356 Then they can drive or fly to a state that does permit that. Where's the problem?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024
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New Mexico proudly proclaims they're an abortion rights state on their border signs. Yeah, those nurses might have to drive 10 hours to get there, but, it can be done.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024

***
And I'll bet, being nurses, they could even relocate and find jobs in NM pretty fast. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:57 AM (J2vNu)

357 The people on the SS Minnow had an amazing wardrobe for a three hour tour.
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I read an interesting article online about that not long ago. According to Bob Denver, they were originally going to have an episode in which they found a sunken cruise liner that they were able to salvage all their stuff from. But then the producers decided that it would be funnier if they just let the castaways have all this stuff without explaining how they came by it, and just let the members of the audience come up with their own explanations.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (v6JzV)

358 Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (qdbNv)

That lazy bint wants to be on permanent vacation. She ain't signing up for this.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (qgGJ7)

359 >I was in a waiting room the other day and a gray haired but not very elderly gentleman walked in wearing a plaid shirt, a different plaid pair of shorts black mid calf socks and a pair of black tie on Florsheims. ---

Sounds like the Progressive commercial where the guy is trying to teach young adults not to act like their old parents.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (B1dzx)

360 281 Colorado Politics: Willie Brown thinks Harris should keep people ‘guessing’ about her ideology, Jack Birle, Washington Examiner Jul 31, 2024

Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown offered his advice for Vice President Kamala Harris as she battles former President Donald Trump, including keeping people "guessing" about her ideology.

Harris and Brown dated in the 1990s, and around the time the two were in a relationship, she was appointed to two California boards. Brown has also supported Harris in subsequent races.
Brown said that President Joe Biden should step down to allow her to show how she would be as president prior to the election, to avoid making her identity her central campaign pitch, and to embrace her unclear ideological tilt.

“If she keeps people continually guessing, then she can adjust the interpretation of your guess every time she sees you,” Brown said.
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June 12, 2024, America250 Debuts New “Ambassador Circle”

It includes Willie Brown, San Francisco CA
Posted by: L - If they'll do it

I see they delicately avoid mentioning that Willie Brown was married at the time...Republicans should hit (emphasize) that hard.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (QGaXH)

361 The people on the SS Minnow had an amazing wardrobe for a three hour tour.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2024 11:54 AM (kCLO6)
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Only the women. Skipper, Professor and Gilligan wore the same shit every day.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2024 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
It's odd how TV used to reflect reality - a distorted reflection, to be sure, akin to a funhouse mirror, but a reflection nonetheless - rather than try to redefine it...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (HnUIn)

362 325 If Emhoff is so concerned with protecting his daughter, what did he ever do to the person who beat her with the Ugly Stick? Cuz that attack must have lasted for days.
Posted by: Wally

C'mon now: https://tinyurl.com/a8b93je9

She's a model! Repeated, extended sessions on the receiving end of the Ugly Stick are a bit exaggerated.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (JCZqz)

363 340 Reproductive Rights is one of my fave commie formulations.

As always, is the exact opposite of what it means.

But they can't call it Termination Rights. Doesn't sound very appealing. I wonder why that name doesn't appeal to people. Someone should ask.
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2024 11:55 AM (qgGJ7)

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I've been watching shows on Pluto.tv, and frequently get this asinine political ad. Surprisingly, it refers to "abortion rights", and not "reproductive rights". Of course, it's never very specifc. Just "republicans voted against abortion rights" and "I want to protect my abortion rights"

Posted by: No One Of Consequence at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (F4bAW)

364 And Navy guys don't wear those giant bell-bottom dungarees anymore, do they

and the jaunty white cap is gone

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)

365 I was in a waiting room the other day and a gray haired but not very elderly gentleman walked in wearing a plaid shirt, a different plaid pair of shorts black mid calf socks and a pair of black tie on Florsheims. ---

***
If I ever dressed like that, in public or at home, it would be cognitive test time for me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 11:59 AM (J2vNu)

366 55 years ago they orbited the fucking Moon on Christmas Eve, and read from the Bible, just to stick it in the eye of the godless Commie bastards.

Today? Who the fuck knows. I guess the latest astronauts are stuck at the space station, and nobody will say anything other than weasel word bullshit.

I noted when doing a deep dive on the administrators at NASA, they were tough. Rocco Petrone was known to fire people on the spot when giving a briefing. Literally pick them up and remove them from the podium. He would ask a question. If you knew the answer, that's fine. If you don't the answer, that's fine too. But you better not try to bullshit your way out of a tough question.

Does that sound like what they are doing with Starliner?

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 11:59 AM (aOYfI)

367 Apparently male horde members dress like the gentleman in this morning'a art thread to post here

Posted by: brak at August 05, 2024 11:59 AM (25k9m)

368 x.com/jimcramer/status/1820449457688948997
Remember this is more of a crisis in confidence NOT in data
Aug 5, 2024 · 1:19 PM UTC

Posted by: Jim Cramer at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (gKWVE)

369 Crash Dummy has a new meaning this morning.
She's done.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (/U5Yz)

370 Only the women. Skipper, Professor and Gilligan wore the same shit every day.
Posted by: Sponge

Thurston Howell didn't, though. And the Professor did have a sports jacket that he would wear on occasion.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (v6JzV)

371 But then the producers decided that it would be funnier if they just let the castaways have all this stuff without explaining how they came by it, and just let the members of the audience come up with their own explanations.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (v6JzV)

You mean like Col. Hans Landa's meerschaum pipe in Inglorious Basterds?

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (MkuC5)

372 >I was in a waiting room the other day and a gray haired but not very elderly gentleman walked in wearing a plaid shirt, a different plaid pair of shorts black mid calf socks and a pair of black tie on Florsheims. ---

Sounds like the Progressive commercial where the guy is trying to teach young adults not to act like their old parents.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (B1dzx)

He should have worn the Imperial Cordovans for maximum effect.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (rj6Yv)

373 So where are all the Trump commercials effectively eviscerating Harris? This is a once-in-a-generation, target-rich candidate, yet all I see are lame GOP attack ads that look like the same losing efforts we've seen for the last thirty years.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (qUkBO)

yep, the one that goes over all her offices is ripe for ridicule. haven't seen one yet.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (0eaVi)

374 Just no jorts.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM

Wait, whut?!

Posted by: Glowies everywhere at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (ZANHd)

375 Apparently male horde members dress like the gentleman in this morning'a art thread to post here
Posted by: brak at August 05, 2024

***
No top hat or walking stick for me, but not a bad idea.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (J2vNu)

376 347 So where are all the Trump commercials effectively eviscerating Harris? This is a once-in-a-generation, target-rich candidate, yet all I see are lame GOP attack ads that look like the same losing efforts we've seen for the last thirty years.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
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If you are not in a state that is a swing state--it is foolish to waste money on commercials. I am in such a state and am seeing them on streaming channels like Sleuth no less. Effective ads.

My guess is that the GOP and Trump since dumping the awful Ronna and cronies is focusing intently on the lowest propensity voters--young males and occasional working class voters and turning them out.

So you won't see the crappy mass mailers, robocalls, wasteful broad ads across the country, etc. that enriched campaign consultants at the expense of the candidate's voter outreach. Targeted is the name of the game and mass media is no longer where the low propensity voters are. They are on social media, streaming channels, etc.

This ain't your campaign from the 80's like the GOP liked to run well into the 2020's. That era is dead and so is its politics.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (qdbNv)

377 Kookoonut Kommie-la.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (iRT5g)

378 I grew up with Robert Vaughn's Napoleon Solo as my fashion hero. Hell, McCallum's Illya with his turtleneck under a suit was better dressed than many people today.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Good thing you weren't a The Real McCoys fan or you'd be sauntering about in overalls.

Posted by: Senor Grandpa at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (CV8a5)

379 She's a model! Repeated, extended sessions on the receiving end of the Ugly Stick are a bit exaggerated.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (JCZqz)
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Only slightly exaggerated. She is not a good-looking woman, which is actually kind of hard to pull off at her age. She was in the mid-level ranks of genetic lottery losers in the looks department, then leaned into it by making herself look deliberately worse.

She is a model because everything is subversive politics.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (HnUIn)

380 234
‘ I'd share my foxhole with her.’
But would she share hers with you?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (jbnUc)

381 Even if she did, that makes no difference. Such crap is for public consumption. If she's interested in some sexy time, you can be sure she won't mention it to the dude who has his beer goggles strapped on.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Dude....don't say "strap on" when I'm checking this they/them out. NOT COOL.

Posted by: Dude with Beer Goggles looking at Ella Emhoff at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (JCZqz)

382 The comments veered off pretty quickly to "flip flops are an abomination after age 12" and the "shorts/long pants wars". I had no idea the male hordians were so fashion conscious.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2024

Flip flops/sandals maybe if you are camping and you have to go to the communal showers.

Shorts. Guilty. Cargo shorts at that. Side pockets are great at protecting the sciatica nerve.

Crocs on the other hand......

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (N39Ws)

383 Kamala Harris may not be truly black but she sure fits in with the intelligence ,governing ability and immoral character of the Dem Black Caucus.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (B1dzx)

384 the Kamala popularity and position flip flop should be seen for what is is: an op to justify massive cheating to get her into office.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (tT6L1)

385 yep, the one that goes over all her offices is ripe for ridicule. haven't seen one yet.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
====
If you happen to be in a swing state, turn on your streaming tv to more obscure male oriented channels. The ads are running. If you aren't, then you probably won't see many ads.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (qdbNv)

386 And Navy guys don't wear those giant bell-bottom dungarees anymore, do they

and the jaunty white cap is gone
Posted by: Don Black

Really? The reason for both the bell-bottoms and the dogbowl hat were that they could be used as flotation devices in a nautical emergency.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (v6JzV)

387 Any poll with Kamala up +1 means Trump is winning +3

Posted by: Shenanigans at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (pZ0Mr)

388 x.com/jimcramer/status/1820449457688948997
Remember this is more of a crisis in confidence NOT in data
Aug 5, 2024 · 1:19 PM UTC
Posted by: Jim Cramer at August 05, 2024 12:00 PM (gKWVE)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, we're screwed.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (N1DT3)

389 Apparently male horde members dress like the gentleman in this morning'a art thread to post here
Posted by: brak at August 05, 2024 11:59 AM

I'm surprised MP4 hasn't commented yet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (ZANHd)

390 I will compromise and stop wearing shorts in public when all the muffin tops are covered up in the latest sharia wear.

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (GUOwU)

391 375 Apparently male horde members dress like the gentleman in this morning'a art thread to post here
Posted by: brak at August 05, 2024

***
No top hat or walking stick for me, but not a bad idea.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (J2vNu)

I don't even like wearing my shirt untucked to cover my sidearm and mags. 5-11 has some very nice shirts for that purpose, however.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (MkuC5)

392 Hi Mr. Doof! We *love* flip-flops.

Posted by: TX fire ants at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (FnneF)

393 My dad was a Florsheim enthusiast. He had, and I may yet have today, a few sets of Cedar shoe trees. You youngsters don't know what "shoe trees" are for. Ha!

Now and then I was tasked to shine them up, maybe a little edge dressing and whatnot. Bermuda shorts. He was no fashion maven, though I think he was smart enough to wear black socks - the gold toes were de rigeur.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 12:03 PM (aOYfI)

394 >>Apparently male horde members dress like the gentleman in this morning'a art thread to post here

The highly-cultured, sophisticated types who step out of the shower to go pee in thee toilet.

Posted by: bed head at August 05, 2024 12:03 PM (Y1sOo)

395 Just keep that seat warm for me, Kamillia...

Posted by: Hillary! at August 05, 2024 12:03 PM (Lh/d2)

396 I know a guy that always wears shorts, he doesn't care if it is thirty degrees outside.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (NtVYv)

397 But then the producers decided that it would be funnier if they just let the castaways have all this stuff without explaining how they came by it, and just let the members of the audience come up with their own explanations.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

1965 battery technology where the radio batteries never die.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (3fGPY)

398 >>What would make the honeymoon crash? Some more people actually looked into her record?

Well she is running for the job of leader of the free world and right now the free world is in free fall. At some point she is going to have answer questions.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (LkLld)

399 The highly-cultured, sophisticated types who step out of the shower to go pee in thee toilet.
Posted by: bed head

What?!?!? How do you keep the toe-rot off?!?!

Posted by: Old Army NCO at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (JCZqz)

400 Buck, this is a super-great essay. I hope it gets widely linked. Everyone should read it.

Posted by: m at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (64Zez)

401 Where is Terry Thomas when we need him?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

At the dentist having that gap in his front teeth repaired.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (v6JzV)

402 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, we're screwed.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (N1DT3)
++++
It amazes me that Jim Cramer has a job. Like, any job. With his track record, he shouldn't be trusted for anything, however menial. The retarded person who corrals carts at the supermarket is more rational, smarter and far more effective than Jim Cramer. Can you imagine Cramer trying to collect shopping carts? I can't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (HnUIn)

403 >Apparently male horde members dress like the gentleman in this morning'a art thread to post here
----

that's crazy
I wear a bowler hat

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 12:04 PM (/7KEl)

404 She's a model! Repeated, extended sessions on the receiving end of the Ugly Stick are a bit exaggerated.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at August 05, 2024 11:58 AM (JCZqz)
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Only slightly exaggerated. She is not a good-looking woman, which is actually kind of hard to pull off at her age. She was in the mid-level ranks of genetic lottery losers in the looks department, then leaned into it by making herself look deliberately worse.

She is a model because everything is subversive politics.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:01 PM (HnUIn)

I guess you can say it's politics but it's more just about a Leftists mindset. Just like men are women , models now are supposed to be ugly or fat and you're are demanded to accept it.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 12:05 PM (B1dzx)

405 I guess you can say it's politics but it's more just about a Leftists mindset. Just like men are women , models now are supposed to be ugly or fat and you're are demanded to accept it.
Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 12:05 PM (B1dzx)
++++
Everything is politics now. We can thank the Left for that, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (HnUIn)

406 404 I guess you can say it's politics but it's more just about a Leftists mindset. Just like men are women , models now are supposed to be ugly or fat and you're are demanded to accept it.
Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 12:05 PM (B1dzx)

=======

I keep noticing that female mannequins can be any size, but male mannequins are ripped. Always.

Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (GBKbO)

407 Remember the Abortion-Mouse?
Read that the installed dem is considering az gov Hobbs.
Please let it be so!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (D/KNX)

408 Jim Cramer is the Dick Morris of stock touts

Posted by: Don Black at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (/7KEl)

409 Any poll with Kamala up +1 means Trump is winning +3

Posted by: Shenanigans at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (pZ0Mr)
==
Or more.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (GZYu7)

410 I noted when doing a deep dive on the administrators at NASA, they were tough. Rocco Petrone was known to fire people on the spot when giving a briefing. Literally pick them up and remove them from the podium. He would ask a question. If you knew the answer, that's fine. If you don't the answer, that's fine too. But you better not try to bullshit your way out of a tough question.

Does that sound like what they are doing with Starliner?
Posted by: Common Tater
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DEI happened to the extent that white males in an organization have to keep their ass shut about gubmint pets not performing well or they will file a complaint on that white male for isms.

And that person's career will be over as I suspect the NASA guy's career who wore the shirt with cartoon women in lingerie on it has flatlined.

All because of the Karens in the world that want other people to be as miserable as they are.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (qdbNv)

411 Don't underestimate the Republican's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Archer at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (IDphi)

412 If you happen to be in a swing state, turn on your streaming tv to more obscure male oriented channels. The ads are running. If you aren't, then you probably won't see many ads.
Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (qdbNv)

I have a roku tv. only watch classic this old house and bob ross. See kammie ads all the time, only a few sam brown. no Trump at all.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (0eaVi)

413 I keep noticing that female mannequins can be any size, but male mannequins are ripped. Always.

Weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
++++
We have yet to defeat the Female Gaze.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (HnUIn)

414 Hi Mr. Doof! We *love* flip-flops.
Posted by: TX fire ants at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM

Doof, would you care to borrow my flammenwerfer, or are you more of a molten aluminum guy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (ZANHd)

415 So where are all the Trump commercials effectively eviscerating Harris? This is a once-in-a-generation, target-rich candidate, yet all I see are lame GOP attack ads that look like the same losing efforts we've seen for the last thirty years.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 05, 2024 11:56 AM (qUkBO)

For one thing, Kamala is only the putative nominee. She won't 'officially' be coronated until she formally accepts the nomination from Barry.

For a second thing, we're dealing with one of duplicitious politcal organizations on the planet. One can never be too sure what might emerge from the Dem primordial goo in Chicago.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (rj6Yv)

416 Heard once standing on a tee box waiting for the fairway to clear:

"That guy's so tight he won't even piss in the shower..."

[Old crusty New England accent]

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (MkuC5)

417 he who hasn't boffed a nanny, maid, cleaning lady, or other domestic help

What is this, a plantation?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (m7sTw)

418 Er, NOT to wear black socks and shorts. But I think he probably did.

I'm always fascinated how fashion trends evolve. The 60s skinny ties and crew cuts somehow morphed into bushy hair, sideburns, porn staches, wide ties with paisley shirts as a sort of business attire. Even Gene Kranz let his hair grow out to 3/8ths or so by 1972. Insanity! Wide ties were of the devil, it reminds me too much of Avocodo appliances, "mood rings" and other assorted 70s strangeness.

Recall the joy of a new POS car from Detroit! The first thing one noticed, is that it stank like high heaven. Rotten eggs. Catalytic convertors.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (aOYfI)

419 The highly-cultured, sophisticated types who step out of the shower to go pee in thee toilet.
Posted by: bed head
*
What?!?!? How do you keep the toe-rot off?!?!
Posted by: Old Army NCO at August 05, 2024 1

***
I used to take care of that in the shower. But the rubber bathmat complained.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu)

420 Let he who hasn't boffed a nanny, maid, cleaning lady, or other domestic help throw the first stone.
Posted by: Uncle Pervy at August 05, 2024 11:50 AM (CV8a5)
++++
:: winds up ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (HnUIn)

421 Philadelphia and Pittsburgh delivered the state to Biden anyway, by hook or by crook.

Mostly by crook. Remember a black voter who doesn't vote is a ballot for a Democrat.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (Da7Vv)

422 Ace is here, everyone put your shorts on!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (U7wke)

423 Nood is declared.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (MkuC5)

424 413 We have yet to defeat the Female Gaze.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (HnUIn)

========

I'm leaning into it.

I love the switch to eating to gain weight. Eggs, chicken, broccoli, tuna...

I'm eating so much, but gaining so little weight. No bad weight, but the good weight is slow.

It's nice to eat a really big lunch and not worry about inflating like a hot air balloon after a couple of days.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

425 Hi Mr. Doof! We *love* flip-flops.
Posted by: TX fire ants at August 05, 2024 12:02 PM (FnneF)

Noted. Alternate plans shall be developed!

Posted by: Doof at August 05, 2024 12:07 PM (RhGG0)

426 It amazes me that Jim Cramer has a job. Like, any job. With his track record, he shouldn't be trusted for anything, however menial. The retarded person who corrals carts at the supermarket is more rational, smarter and far more effective than Jim Cramer. Can you imagine Cramer trying to collect shopping carts? I can't.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

The media in general has become all Baghdad Bobs. Bu, Cramer is the very epitome of an analyst where you immediately assume the opposite opinion of what he is saying on any given subject.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:08 PM (qdbNv)

427 forget the polls: You'll know how well Kamala's campaign is doing based on her moves.

Similarly, you can look at Hillary's ~~rally~~ book tour schedule to see when she'll be taking over.

https://www.hillaryclintonlive.com/

Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2024 12:08 PM (B46kE)

428 Belted golf shorts, collared shirt, and Jerusalem cruisers. Maybe a 1/4 zip up if it's cold.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at August 05, 2024 12:09 PM (DIB8X)

429 Kids (males) around hear wear shorts all year long. You can see teen boys waiting for the bus in 20 degree weather. I think it is a macho thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2024 12:09 PM (dTTBf)

430 noodace

Posted by: m at August 05, 2024 12:09 PM (64Zez)

431 413 I keep noticing that female mannequins can be any size, but male mannequins are ripped. Always.

Weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM

Don’t even. The whole dad bod movement? And if you want to claim society is easier on aging women than men, I got a whole lot of fat thigh posts to share with you. 😂

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2024 12:09 PM (p4NUW)

432 I was on of first people in High School to wear boot cut jeans with regular shoes or tennis shoes when everyone else was wearing bell bottoms or flairs. The others who did were part of the rodeo club.

Posted by: polynikes at August 05, 2024 12:10 PM (B1dzx)

433 >>> 410
=======
DEI happened to the extent that white males in an organization have to keep their ass shut about gubmint pets not performing well or they will file a complaint on that white male for isms.

And that person's career will be over as I suspect the NASA guy's career who wore the shirt with cartoon women in lingerie on it has flatlined.

All because of the Karens in the world that want other people to be as miserable as they are.
Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:06 PM (qdbNv)

I read somewhere or other that his shirt was designed by a woman artist who was a friend of his, and he wanted to give her free advertising.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2024 12:12 PM (FnneF)

434 This ain't your campaign from the 80's like the GOP liked to run well into the 2020's. That era is dead and so is its politics.
---
Yup.
TV ads are as useless as cable news.

Never forget that one of the biggest reasons the NeverTrump hate him so is that he's cut them off from their usual pig trough of huge commissions made from stupidly expensive TV ads, mailers, radio ads, etc.

Recall one of the big moves by the NeverTrump was an ad in Times Square? The commission on that would have likely paid off most of us here's mortgages.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2024 12:12 PM (XBPvm)

435 I have a roku tv. only watch classic this old house and bob ross. See kammie ads all the time, only a few sam brown. no Trump at all.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Try Westerns, Sleuth, etc. Trump team is apparently using micromarketing and Elon is actually helping with the GOTV effort.

Mass ads are like carpet bombing and very costly for the results---micro targeted ads which were first rolled out by Obama in 2012 back when cable was a thing used a similar tactic and was targeting minority voters on channels that most non minorities never watched. Then shows like Golden Girls, in rerun channels like TV Land etc. for the women.

As we get toward the election, the local news is a prime target for ads but they will probably be targeted even there to appeal to the low propensity voter to turn out rather than red meat for the policy voters.

Basically, most of the ad expenses are wasted on the committed which is about 43-45 percent of the Trump Vote and likewise on the Dem advocates which is about the same base size. The scarce 5-10 percent of swing voters is where the action is and turning out voters that rarely if ever vote. Old guard GOP type hate that.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:15 PM (qdbNv)

436 And that person's career will be over as I suspect the NASA guy's career who wore the shirt with cartoon women in lingerie on it has flatlined.

I'll bet he's working for Elon.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 05, 2024 12:15 PM (3fGPY)

437 Did the King not demand decorum from his troops?!
------

Patton required 3rd Army soldiers to wear a tie in the European theater, in a combat zone. He could and did issue fines for being unshaved, boots not polished, bad haircuts and similar, if I recall correctly.

In those days, a private made maybe $20 a month, and getting busted down a grade or two, getting a $50 fine really stung.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2024 12:17 PM (aOYfI)

438 Kids (males) around hear wear shorts all year long. You can see teen boys waiting for the bus in 20 degree weather. I think it is a macho thing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

It's the metabolism. I used to do the same thing because I wasn't cold. Can't do it anymore.

Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2024 12:20 PM (bkfCY)

439 Never forget that one of the biggest reasons the NeverTrump hate him so is that he's cut them off from their usual pig trough of huge commissions made from stupidly expensive TV ads, mailers, radio ads, etc.

Recall one of the big moves by the NeverTrump was an ad in Times Square? The commission on that would have likely paid off most of us here's mortgages.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
=========
Yep. Ad placement brings in a much higher percentage commission to the campaign managers than managing volunteers and GOTV.

It also strokes the ego of the whale donors as they see the useless ads themselves and sometimes have input into them, and the campaign staff does not have to deal with the smelly people--only the ad professionals of the media.

That is why a lot of the GOPe strength is the professional staffers and their desire is to get paid--not to produce results.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:20 PM (qdbNv)

440 I'll bet he's working for Elon.
Posted by: rickb223
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I should hope. The best hires are often ones that have been burned by the system and ain't got no place else to go.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2024 12:21 PM (qdbNv)

441 And, a word of caution from The Bulwark in this article Trump Could Do a Mass Deportation. We’ve Done It Before. Don’t count on the courts to stand in his way.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2024 11:31 AM (JCZqz)

It.moved.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2024 12:28 PM (aD39U)

442 the classic was Obama and same sex marriage ... he was lying when he said he opposed it ... the left knew he was lying ... the right knew he was lying ... some in the middle got suckered into voting for him ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at August 05, 2024 12:42 PM (DBAaD)

443 We all know the Demon-Rats are in the pockets of the Big Green Radicals and Eco-Freaks and those idiots from Just Stop Oil some who just got five years in Prison over in the UK

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 05, 2024 04:24 PM (wGqjj)

444 My former party hates us all. That much is dreadfully clear. We are beset by a party that has nothing to offer but lies. Sad.

Posted by: XRRdemocrat at August 05, 2024 08:10 PM (eWfDT)

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