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FBI Director: The Assassin's Gun Was Legally Bought and Then Sold to Him

Which only serves as proof to Democrat gun-grabbers that all guns, legally or illegally purchased, must be outlawed.


In a testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, FBI Director Christopher Wray revealed that Thomas Crooks' family had over a dozen firearms in their Bethel Park, Pennsylvania home. Fox News reported that Matthew Crooks, Thomas' father, legally sold the AR-style rifle to his son, which was later used in the assassination attempt on former President Trump.

"We located a number of firearms associated with the shooter and his family," Wray stated, noting there were a total of 14 guns in the house. "The weapon that he used for the attempted assassination was an AR-style rifle that was purchased legally," Wray added. "We believe, based on what we've seen, that his father, after purchasing the gun, legally sold the gun to his son."

...

Thomas Crooks was described as a "fairly avid shooting enthusiast" by Wray during his testimony. In addition to the AR-15 and magazines for the rifle, law enforcement found a bulletproof vest and crude explosive devices in his car after he was neutralized by a Secret Service sniper.

The FBI director mentioned that the agency is still searching for a manifesto or other writings that could shed light on the 20-year-old Crooks' motive.

lol, sure


...

"The attempted assassination of the former president was an attack on our democracy," Wray emphasized on Wednesday, acknowledging the significant public and congressional interest in the case. He noted that the FBI has already conducted over 400 interviews as part of their extensive investigation.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:22 PM




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1 willowed

The media will try to make Kamala the new Obama 2008, but there are factors working against them that they can't fix.

Such as: In 2008, people were exhausted by Bush in general, Iraq in particular, and Republicans sort of got swept up in that all around, especially once the housing bubble broke.

Obama was a blank slate with speeches that the media held up as JFK meets MLK. He preached hope and change and not much else, policy wise, and he went up against John McCain who basically campaigned with the message "if you vote for me, that's nice and all, but that Obama guy really is something, isn't he?"

Kamala is the incumbent VP. She is saddled with the failures of the past four years and none of her empty promises will ring true to people who have to deal with high prices of everything.

If Trump can stay on message, he will win. Kamala might help if she gets too many chances to talk off the cuff, but otherwise, hit the message and don't let up.

Posted by: Shenanigans at July 25, 2024 12:22 PM (pZ0Mr)

2 Hi Ace

New info!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2024 12:23 PM (t/2Uw)

3 2nd

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 25, 2024 12:23 PM (qvYge)

4 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 25, 2024 12:23 PM (QNSds)

5 Mornin' Ace.

Posted by: Heirloominati at July 25, 2024 12:23 PM (ycfri)

6 400 interviews?

Mostly with SS agents, presumably

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 25, 2024 12:23 PM (M3n+u)

7 Also, good morning Ace. thanks for fighting.

Posted by: Shenanigans at July 25, 2024 12:23 PM (pZ0Mr)

8 I got nothin'.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:24 PM (DRSnL)

9
The FBI is so exhausting under Christopher Wray.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 25, 2024 12:24 PM (+oR7L)

10 You can call him Wray. You can call him Jay. But you don't have to call him competent.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2024 12:24 PM (63Dwl)

11 Good afternoon, Ace.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 12:24 PM (v6JzV)

12 I suspect that the parents know a whole lot more about their kid and his plans than we are being told. That's why they deemed this a domestic terrorist crime. If someone is convicted of helping him in any way they can get 30 years in prison. They did that to make this guy keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (QNSds)

13 How long until we hear there was Fibbie involvement in the planning for the shooting attempt?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (M3n+u)

14 8 I got nothin'.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:24 PM (DRSnL)

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Right there too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (JeYYB)

15 "there were a total of 14 guns in the house."

an arsenal!!!!

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (AwYPR)

16 Funny thing, I received an email from Gab which claims Crooks appears to have had an account and that account was mostly pro Joe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (tT6L1)

17 1. And she is not charming or charismatic at all.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (aVudl)

18 I'm pretty sure his motive was to kill Trump. Beyond that, who gives a fuck.

Posted by: huerfano at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (VGOMa)

19 What's the deal with this stuff I'm seeing about JD Vance having sex with a couch?

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (xPl2J)

20 "The attempted assassination of the former president was an attack on our democracy," Wray emphasized on Wednesday...

Why can none of these dipshits say "republic"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (dZVON)

21 Something is aWray in the FiB.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (kQgoX)

22 What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (B1dzx)

23 The attack on the president is an attack on democracy, he explained. Trying to throw the man in jail on bullshit charges, cool. All good.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (DWqKI)

24 Good afternoon Ace
I was surprised that Congress voted to look into the assassination attempt, but then the gun grabbers will use it as well

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (6GBRs)

25 I suspect that the parents know a whole lot more about their kid and his plans than we are being told.

Absolutely. They called the police the day of the shooting because they were worried about him.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (xCA6C)

26 I don’t even know what to say. We will never know for sure, but I can’t imagine all of our gut instincts are completely off base. We aren’t dumb people.

Posted by: Piper at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (pRpzT)

27 How much did his folks get paid for their "trouble?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (Q4IgG)

28 I'm curious why the media keeps running the picture of Crooks from middle school rather than more recent ones. A similar thing happened with pics of Trayvon Martin, although I understood why the media did that with Martin.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (CwhoI)

29 Well, seeing how the FBI (and the rest of the DOJ) has been trustworthy and forthright so far...

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (gP18x)

30 Motivation: do what handler tells you (?)

Posted by: High tech at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (37cEZ)

31 Why can none of these dipshits say "republic"?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310


Their marxist programming demands that they say 'dEmOcRaCy~'. The Revolution will perfect democracy and then it won't be necessary. ... Straight up marx.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (IG4Id)

32 A timely companion piece from Miranda Devine. This is really scathing.

@mirandadevine
🚨🚨🚨Column’s up: The FBI’s shameful agenda. Local cops refuse to share info with FBI as agency suffers ‘crisis of confidence’ with partisan political bias and DEI hires, damning whistleblower report reveals

https://tinyurl.com/fa7e5evd

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (LkLld)

33 Sorry he didn’t say AR 15 but just AR. Was it not a .223 caliber weapon?

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (B1dzx)

34 Good afternoon all!

Re-watching the footage from Butler reinforces how incredible it was that PDT survived—a true miracle. Even Newt called it a "providential moment"

Posted by: jmel at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (bVhJi)

35 I wonder if FBI search strings include a ‘-FBI -federal’ addition. They’ve got to have a way to ensure they don’t detect their own involvement.

Posted by: Advo at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (jO4mz)

36 Pond scum >> Chris Wray

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (HSp7+)

37 Crooks was not a "fairly avid" shooting enthusiast, else he'd have used something just a bit larger on PDT.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

38 The FBI director mentioned that the agency is still searching for a manifesto or other writings that could shed light on the 20-year-old Crooks' motive.

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Homicidal Tranny Manifestos get memory-holed faster than you can say "Afghanistan," "Maui," and now "Butler."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (WlJra)

39 The only way to protect a republican, conservative or anyone not a prog is to start arresting and charging these mentally ill people. If you won’t recognize that they are mentally ill, some needing more than treatment/medication, needing lifetime mental health incarceration this will continue to happen. I might add protecting school children from a mentally ill tranny in Nashville TN. As we all know it’s not the gun, knife, bomb or car/truck that commits murder it’s the mentally ill or evil person. I still struggle on how you can differentiate between the two.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (5rbBj)

40 More specifically, the assassin's failure to complete his mission was an attack on Our Democracy.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (v9JpZ)

41 This story just got considerably weirder. 14 guns? His parents were social worker and psychologist? Or was this ever confirmed? Saw a picture of supposed father who look liked a fat shit pushing a loaded grocery cart accompanied by a woman completely covered wearing a mask. Were his parents nuts? What about their social media?
Story that their house was cleansed of trash and silverware(?).
Why after all this time do we know nothing about this family.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (t/2Uw)

42 Current picture with longer hair makes him look more radical and less like the kid next door.

Posted by: High tech at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (37cEZ)

43 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news /article-13642719/Thomas-Crooks- picture-trump-assassin-shooting.html

It's b/c he looks gender non-specific in current photos...they are here...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (exHjb)

44 there were a total of 14 guns in the house."

an arsenal!!!!
Posted by: BignJames


My dearly departed Pappymayhem say.... That's adorable. Now when are you planning to get serious about your defense situation?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (4XwPj)

45 What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (B1dzx)

Lotsa' plastic w/a "thing" that goes up...usually black.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (AwYPR)

46 Why can none of these dipshits say "republic"?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (dZVON)

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Thank you! I get enraged the idiots can't get anything right.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (JeYYB)

47 Pond scum >> Chris Wray

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (HSp7+)

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YOU, sir, will be hearing from our lawyers!

Posted by: Pond Scum Local 451 at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (WlJra)

48 26 I don’t even know what to say. We will never know for sure, but I can’t imagine all of our gut instincts are completely off base. We aren’t dumb people.

Posted by: Piper at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (pRpzT)

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YES YOU ARE

Posted by: The people who think men can get pregnant and fetuses aren't actual people at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (N66D6)

49 If only we could figure out a motive!

I guess "Trump's rhetoric" didn't play well as a "motive" during field testing.

Obviously they never planned for him to get hit and survive.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (v9JpZ)

50 19 What's the deal with this stuff I'm seeing about JD Vance having sex with a couch?
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I think its some BS from his book, but as soon as I heard about it i started laughing.... "We finally got our couch f*cking candidate!" Can we get a ficus in the cabinet?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (qvYge)

51 With the FBI in control of the scene and all information about the shooting, only one thing is absolutely certain:

We'll never know what happened.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (woPEM)

52

the fbi wont crack this case

until it is to their advantage to do so

it necessarily follows

that if they never crack it (see also las vegas)

they were in on it

Posted by: sound awake at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (g7ym/)

53 What's the deal with this stuff I'm seeing about JD Vance having sex with a couch?
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 25, 2024 12:25 PM (xPl2J)

=====

Somebody lied and said he wrote about it in his book, and everyone else picked it up and ran with it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (DRSnL)

54 Lotsa' plastic w/a "thing" that goes up...usually black.
Posted by: BignJames

The Paolo has no plastic but yes, how you say, a thing that goes up. Way up.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (5Seyi)

55 What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (B1dzx)

Lotsa' plastic w/a "thing" that goes up...usually black.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (AwYPR)

----------------

Often seen with the chainsaw attachment.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (WlJra)

56 They will get a better bead on the motive once they figure out what happened in Benghazi.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (v9JpZ)

57 Ok. So he bought it legally. I'm not sure what that means other than you don't have to hunt down whoever it was stolen from to return it to them.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (N1DT3)

58 What's the deal with this stuff I'm seeing about JD Vance having sex with a couch?
-----------
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 4h
Based on a hoax about something in his book, but I'd be lying if I said it isn't funny.
[andy: And what a source...]

ex-republican @SiestaKeyFL1 Jul 22 Replying to @deliclit
JD Vance is a couch fucker

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (wse2C)

59 His current photo also shows a person who looks suspicious at a Trump rally...so it would play even more into the "why didn't you stop him at any point" narrative that Dems (and their media lapdogs) are trying to squash...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (exHjb)

60 I've never heard of a father selling a gun to offspring.
Giving it, yes.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (MeG8a)

61 We'll never know what happened.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (woPEM)

...officially

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (v9JpZ)

62 Their marxist programming demands that they say 'dEmOcRaCy~'. The Revolution will perfect democracy and then it won't be necessary. ... Straight up marx.
Posted by: weft cut-loop


Say the magic word and you can get a prize!

Posted by: Zombie Groucho Marx at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (vcOmj)

63 What's the deal with this stuff I'm seeing about JD Vance having sex with a couch?

A change is as good as a rest.

Posted by: The Chicken at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (Q0kLU)

64 The Nazi and the Couch F*cker

Has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (JeYYB)

65 > A timely companion piece from Miranda Devine. This is really scathing.
---------
Heh... I was just about to post that.

But, really, it's nothing we already didn't suspect or know.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)

66 Somebody lied and said he wrote about it in his book, and everyone else picked it up and ran with it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (DRSnL)

---------------

Maybe Jimmy Carter started that rumor as a little payback ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (WlJra)

67 So they're trying to go with this now-
Newsweek
@Newsweek
Donald Trump might not have been shot after all

https://tinyurl.com/bde8j5cn

Posted by: redridinghood at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (NpAcC)

68 ""The attempted assassination of the former president was an attack on our democracy," Wray emphasized"

Given that Wray says that about the (DeepState orchestrated) J6 "Insurrection", it just indicates the FBI/CIA also had a hand in this attack. Certainly they had a "Stand Down" hand in it, the rest is protected by the "Our Precious Sources and Methods" and "Can't ever comment on an ongoing investigation" clauses of the constitution.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (Cus5s)

69 >>> Often seen with the chainsaw attachment.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:31 PM (WlJra)

=====

I hear the newest attachment is a cocaine shark.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (JfxgE)

70 What, the infamous Gun Show Loophole was not used? I am disappoint.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2024 12:33 PM (Aqu9a)

71 ...Homicidal Tranny Manifestos get memory-holed faster than you can say "Afghanistan," "Maui," and now "Butler."
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (WlJra)



In the absence of such an authenticated "manifesto" being found in Crook's electronics, or a printout being offered up by family or feebs...

I do now hereby Propose and Petition, that a Substitute Manifesto be written and published, herewith. By the Babylon Bee.

Or, by Ace.

Whoever can be bothered as to get to it first, I suppose?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 25, 2024 12:33 PM (kQgoX)

72 28 I'm curious why the media keeps running the picture of Crooks from middle school rather than more recent ones. A similar thing happened with pics of Trayvon Martin, although I understood why the media did that with Martin.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (CwhoI)

Because the more recent photos make him look like an antifa wannabe. Which he apparently was.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at July 25, 2024 12:33 PM (MkuC5)

73 Jan 20,2025, noon: Trump Sworn in

Jan 21, 2025 12:01: First line of inaugural address- Chris Wray, you are fired.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:33 PM (d9LQi)

74 I've never heard of a father selling a gun to offspring.
Giving it, yes.
Posted by: gourmand du jour


Crooks was 20. He could have bought it himself.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (t8fhO)

75 It's funny how Vance's history is literally an open book but the scum are trying to make him out to be this very shadowy figure.

I haven't decided if he's a good conservative or not but I don't think he's nefarious.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (JeYYB)

76 I'm curious why the media keeps running the picture of Crooks from middle school rather than more recent ones. A similar thing happened with pics of Trayvon Martin, although I understood why the media did that with Martin.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

I brought that up last week. Crooks was a Freshman and approx. 4-15 years old in the picture. Crooks was a 20 year old when this incident happened but no recent pictures within even the last year? The gaslighting continues.

Posted by: Cheri at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (oiNtH)

77
Why can none of these dipshits say "republic"?
Posted by: Blanco Basura


We couldn't keep it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (63Dwl)

78 The "sale" might also be b/c if dad "sold" it awhile ago, he's off the hook completely for its care and use. If it was still dad's going into the rally shooting, questions could be asked on why dad lent him the gun (b/c that was the initial story - that dad lent it to him)...and dad could be criminally and civilly liable...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (exHjb)

79 "Newsweek
Donald Trump might not have been shot after all"


Everybody know an AR will take your head clean off.

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2024 12:35 PM (9BzN2)

80 73 Jan 20,2025, noon: Trump Sworn in

Jan 21, 2025 12:01: First line of inaugural address- Chris Wray, you are fired.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:33 PM (d9LQi)

=======

I'd love for a blanket declassification decree, along with a pledge that any administrative function out of alignment with Loper is going to be eliminated within the first 100 days.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

81 JD Vance has my support and my vote!

Posted by: Toaster Fucker at July 25, 2024 12:35 PM (Aqu9a)

82 Jan 20,2025, noon: Trump Sworn in

Jan 21, 2025 12:01: First line of inaugural address- Chris Wray, you are fired.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:33 PM (d9LQi)


I'd prefer "Joseph Robinette Biden, you are under arrest for treason," but I'll accept your version.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2024 12:35 PM (Q0kLU)

83 A timely companion piece from Miranda Devine. This is really scathing.

@mirandadevine
🚨🚨🚨Column’s up: The FBI’s shameful agenda. Local cops refuse to share info with FBI as agency suffers ‘crisis of confidence’ with partisan political bias and DEI hires, damning whistleblower report reveals

https://tinyurl.com/fa7e5evd

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (LkLld)

--------------

Bongino said that, after the Secret Cervix initially kept trying to throw local LEOs under the bus, they were (unexpectedly!) incentivizing future local LEOs to tell them to pound sand and refuse to cooperate with them in the future.

Top. Women.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (WlJra)

84 Why can none of these dipshits say "republic"?
Posted by: Blanco


Because they don't know we are a republic.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (t8fhO)

85 I'm reading Vance's book. He doesn;t hide anything. I am only half way through and his honesty about his family, upbringing and the culture is breathtaking. It is depressing and triumphant. And I've only read half so far.
I understand why they made the movie but not going to watch til I finish the book.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (t/2Uw)

86 Have any congressmen asked why no close pics or detailed information has been released about the rifle?

Posted by: SamIam at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (oasF3)

87 The FBI director mentioned that the agency is still searching for a manifesto or other writings that could shed light on the 20-year-old Crooks' motive.

---------------

Homicidal Tranny Manifestos get memory-holed faster than you can say "Afghanistan," "Maui," and now "Butler."
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (WlJra)

Yes, and the feds have learned you don't tell anyone you found a manifesto, so no one thinks to go looking for it.

They probably bring a shredder van with them to the crime scenes.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (XYrDz)

88 28 I'm curious why the media keeps running the picture of Crooks from middle school rather than more recent ones. A similar thing happened with pics of Trayvon Martin, although I understood why the media did that with Martin.
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Tranny. Allegedly.

https://tinyurl.com/5ey5u33z

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (wse2C)

89 I've never heard of a father selling a gun to offspring.

Giving it, yes.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (MeG8a)

receipt? bill of sale?

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (AwYPR)

90 "The attempted assassination of the former president was an attack on our democracy"

Wtf is with these shitmongers' pathological pervy fetish for duckspeaking this vapid "attack on our democracy" meme for literally every single thing that happens in the country? It's become the new general, all-purpose boogeyman for anything.

Trump shot? Attack On Democracy. Kumala's fake name pronounced wrong? Attack On Democracy. No donuts for Tater? Attack On Democracy. Obama's ED in the back seat of a car with a junkie faggot? Attack On Democracy!

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

91 This couch fucker stuff is why we need people like Trump.

Horrible Harris can pretend to rise above this stuff (when they go low we go high) while the entire media broadcast the most vicious vulgar low rent DNC focus grouped attacks).

Only someone like Trump can come out and say "I have no problem down there, believe me" or "Nasty woman". Otherwise the play along Republicans get put through the meat grinder and us along with them.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (v9JpZ)

92 Everything out of the FBI should be met with the 'Ok, Jan' meme.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (xcxpd)

93 "What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?"
***********
Just calling it a Ruger AR-556 people might miss that it's the deadly AR 15 rifle.

Posted by: Cosda at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (zLPqn)

94 Oh FFS, I've said it before but even if Trump was not hit by a bullet TO THE FACE, it would still be an assasination attempt on Trump.

PLUS, A MAN DIED THAT DAY. Intent was proven.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (JeYYB)

95 Democracy is a government system designed to oppress the minority with state violence.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (ogTiX)

96 22 What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?
Posted by: polynikes

If you want to split hairs. Technically, the adjustable stock, etc. make it more an M4gery after the technical package of adjustments to the M-16 A2 into a short barrel carbine with an adjustable stock and removing the carry handle completely from the older AR designs.

In part, it was to make the original AR design more suitable for urban combat and to ease getting in and out of transport with minimal effects on its short range lethality.

Has some issues due to changes in the original design and since this is not a gun thread, not worthy of further discussion.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (qdbNv)

97 We'll never know what happened.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 25, 2024 12:30 PM (woPEM)


I suspect that, because we know not to believe reports from "officials" and we heard from eyewitnesses, we actually have a pretty good idea what happened.

Posted by: Emmie at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (Sf2cq)

98 The media loves sharing that 2021 photo of Crooks because he's wearing a shirt with an American flag motif, thus they can insinuate SEEEEEE HE'S AN EVIL REICHWINGER and pretend that the decades of cultural rot and smart phone/social media contagion and non stop for nearly a decade propaganda that Orange Man was the baddest, most evil man who must be killed is NOT the motivating factor of the assassination attempt.

Posted by: Ravenmother at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (oiHdz)

99 The Newsweek thing doesn't surprise me. For some reason the progs think it matters whether Trump was singed by a bullet or from shrapnel caused by a bullet and they want to see the medical records. Those records will not answer this question and none can tell us why it matters.

They're lost, and their parents should be very ashamed of them.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (DWqKI)

100 Leftists do not use the word “republic” because it is a form of democracy, a Republican Democracy. At least that’s according to them.

Posted by: JROD at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (wBBqq)

101 The "sale" might also be b/c if dad "sold" it awhile ago, he's off the hook completely for its care and use. If it was still dad's going into the rally shooting, questions could be asked on why dad lent him the gun (b/c that was the initial story - that dad lent it to him)...and dad could be criminally and civilly liable...
Posted by: Nova


Because 20 yr olds never lie and say, "oh, I'm going to the range".

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (t8fhO)

102 The "couch fucker" is such obvious staged focus group imagery. You can see it on Vance and can't get away from it even when it's "debunked".

It haunts and tars a candidate like "Lyin Ted" or "Low energy Jeb". Honesty these typical lefty attacks make Trump seem quite tame in comparison.

Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (v9JpZ)

103 92 Everything out of the FBI should be met with the 'Ok, Jan' meme.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (xcxpd)

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100%

I actually hear that (Sure, Jan) in my head when anyone for the FBI speaks.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (JeYYB)

104 Crooks was 20. He could have bought it himself.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (t8fhO)

Or stolen it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2024 12:39 PM (zTh/f)

105 The motive remains a mystery...

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2024 12:39 PM (HJ9BW)

106 Vance should start his next speech with one of those mattress tags hanging from his mouth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2024 12:39 PM (Q0kLU)

107 @32

From the article:
Ultimately the whistleblower group says the only way to restore the FBI’s reputation and repair the damage is to force the resignation of Wray as “an extreme measure of last resort.

I disagree. It's a first step at best.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (xCA6C)

108 Because they don't know we are a republic.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (t8fhO)

Remember it's not that they don't know anything, it's that they know so much that isn't so.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (v9JpZ)

109 I'm amazed at how much the MSM are trying to convince us that nothing unusual has occurred in the last couple of weeks. They really are that brazen.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (MeG8a)

110 So really, the biggest victim her is Our Democracy, not Trump?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (Hkcdp)

111 So . . . how soon until some dopey drunk bimbo comes crawling out of the swamp to accuse JD Vance of vague sex crimes? Serious question.

I'm thinking it will be right after the DNC convention.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (iFTx/)

112 "Legally sold the gun to his son" means that Wray is helping the traitor rats with their agenda of banning all sales of guns without a "background check."

I don't trust a single word spilling out of Wray. He is absolutely untrustworthy and plainly opposed to any perceived enemy of the D.C. Swamp. The sooner we are rid of him and his ilk the better.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (ous9O)

113 The Newsweek thing doesn't surprise me. For some reason the progs think it matters whether Trump was singed by a bullet or from shrapnel caused by a bullet and they want to see the medical records. Those records will not answer this question and none can tell us why it matters.
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (DWqKI)

Newsweek going full bullet truther doesn't surprise me, but the FBI director is practically advertising the fact that yes, Crooks was one of their windup toys. Assuming the real Antifa thuglet didn't take the shot.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (AKKkq)

114 Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:38

Wait, that is a real rumor? I thought it was a joke!

Posted by: Piper at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (PRqXW)

115 It's funny how Vance's history is literally an open book but the scum are trying to make him out to be this very shadowy figure.

I haven't decided if he's a good conservative or not but I don't think he's nefarious.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (JeYYB)

Apparently his rise is almost entirely due to being promoted and supported by Peter Thiel.

Take that for what it is. Thiel is a figure who people have opinions on, but I don't know enough to know exactly what that means.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (XYrDz)

116 The "couch fucker" is such obvious staged focus group imagery. You can see it on Vance and can't get away from it even when it's "debunked".

It haunts and tars a candidate like "Lyin Ted" or "Low energy Jeb". Honesty these typical lefty attacks make Trump seem quite tame in comparison.

Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: ..



"Say what, Willie Brown's cockholster?"

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (t8fhO)

117 If, big If, a bullet hit a teleprompter and then a fragment of glass hit Trump I'd that not still an assassination attempt
Christopher Wray is like a Mafia consigliare.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (JLq/1)

118 Did the Crooks guy have a job? was he in school? What?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (XeU6L)

119 Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: ..


Love is love, h8rs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (v6JzV)

120 Oh FFS, I've said it before but even if Trump was not hit by a bullet TO THE FACE, it would still be an assasination attempt on Trump.

PLUS, A MAN DIED THAT DAY. Intent was proven.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:37 PM (JeYYB)

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Beat me to it. Even if it was shrapnel or glass or whatever (which it wasn't), who gives a shit? HE WAS SHOT AT.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (DRSnL)

121 How about people read Vance's book and show where exactly the couch fucking took place.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (JeYYB)

122 Kamala's inaugural address: This is the greatest day of your lives, that I have become your ruler.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (d9LQi)

123 Props to the first governor who tells state cops not to cooperate with the FBI.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (rJ48h)

124 The Newsweek thing doesn't surprise me. For some reason the progs think it matters whether Trump was singed by a bullet or from shrapnel caused by a bullet and they want to see the medical records. Those records will not answer this question and none can tell us why it matters.
Posted by: spongeworthy


I want to see Biden's REAL unredacted medical records while he was POTUS.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (t8fhO)

125 Maybe the Secret Service need to dispatch a special team to protect Our Democracy?
Where would they go to do that? Maybe surveil the internet and smash any dissent?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (Hkcdp)

126 there were a total of 14 guns in the house."

an arsenal!!!!
Posted by: BignJames


My dearly departed Pappymayhem say.... That's adorable. Now when are you planning to get serious about your defense situation?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 25, 2024 12:29 PM (4XwPj)
***

I'd call that a good start.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (W/lyH)

127 Director Wray...

The world turns its eyes to big gay King Kong.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (0h/0q)

128 OK, I know the libs are being disingenuous when they use the term "democracy," but isn't a republic in fact a form of democracy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (v6JzV)

129 So really, the biggest victim her is Our Democracy, not Trump?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2024 12:40 PM (Hkcdp)

Nor the guy whose brains were splattered on the bleachers.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (XYrDz)

130 125 Maybe the Secret Service need to dispatch a special team to protect Our Democracy?
Where would they go to do that? Maybe surveil the internet and smash any dissent?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (Hkcdp)

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Amen, Lizzy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (JeYYB)

131 Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:38

"Don't call my wife a couch!"

There is some kind of desperation on the left, but for Gargler I'm not surprised. Vance should be able to bat this aside easy.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (AKKkq)

132 How about people read Vance's book and show where exactly the couch fucking took place.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (JeYYB)

Doesn't work. I still know people that think (or claim to think) Sarah Palin said "I can see Russia from my house".

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (v9JpZ)

133 "Newsweek
Donald Trump might not have been shot after all"

Everybody know an AR will take your head clean off.

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2024 12:35 PM (9BzN2)

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"It'll rip your lungs out, Jack!"

-- F. Joe Biden

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (WlJra)

134 Wtf is with these shitmongers' pathological pervy fetish for duckspeaking this vapid "attack on our democracy" meme for literally every single thing that happens in the country? It's become the new general, all-purpose boogeyman for anything.

I, for one, am glad to see it. I'm just plain tired.

Posted by: War on women at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (xCA6C)

135 Did the Crooks guy have a job? was he in school? What?
Posted by: Mike Hammer


He picked up dirty food trash at the local old folk's home.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (t8fhO)

136 {90} ... Wtf is with these shitmongers' pathological pervy fetish for duckspeaking this vapid "attack on our democracy" meme for literally every single thing that happens in the country? It's become the new general, all-purpose boogeyman for anything. ...

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 25, 2024 12:36 PM (iFTx/)


Whatever replaced "JournoList" (where these leftists all seem to get their talking points) obviously made this the buzz-phrase of the month, and the use of the phrase becomes reflexive.

It's pretty much exactly like this:
https://youtu.be/bNTGSKsTdHQ

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (O7YUW)

137 The attack on the president is an attack on democracy, he explained. Trying to throw the man in jail on bullshit charges, cool. All good.
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (DWqKI)


"The temper of the conversation has reached dangerous levels, and it is important that the tone of political discourse has caused this unfortunate situation. It is time for Hitler Trump to cease his democracy destructive lies, and admit his responsibility in the upswing in political and cultural violence, and accept this punishment meekly."

Next week's talking points on the various propaganda channels.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (D7oie)

138 One of the best things I've heard, though, was Zuckerberg, in an interview, talking about PDT standing up, bloody and saying, "Fight Fight Fight" "it was the most badass thing I've ever seen."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (tT6L1)

139 I heard that Vance shot the couch and dropped in a pit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (v6JzV)

140 How about people read Vance's book and show where exactly the couch fucking took place.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (JeYYB)

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The guy who stared the rumor cited page numbers and everything, so I guess people thought it was legit. And the description was...oddly specific. I have no doubt that the guy actually did it himself.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (DRSnL)

141 I've never heard of a father selling a gun to offspring.

Giving it, yes.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 25, 2024 12:32 PM (MeG8a)

receipt? bill of sale?
Posted by: BignJames

Agree.
Sell, with a bill of sale, indicates it wasn't a strawman purchase by Dad.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (CeERx)

142 138 One of the best things I've heard, though, was Zuckerberg, in an interview, talking about PDT standing up, bloody and saying, "Fight Fight Fight" "it was the most badass thing I've ever seen."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (tT6L1)

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But it didn't affect the race and Kamala has completely undone all the damage from Biden's debate by just being brown.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (GBKbO)

143 I'm increasingly fascinated that Obama hasn't endorsed Kamala yet.

A theory, which I find plausible, that Obama forced Biden out, probably through blackmail.

Obama intended to then use a "mini-primary" to hand-pick his preferred candidate, but Biden decided to screw Obama by immediately endorsing Kamala, which he wasn't supposed to do.

Biden, and the people around Biden, want Kamala to lose, and lose big, because that shows that the people who forced Biden out of the race were idiots, and they should have kept Biden as the candidate.

This implies that Biden will use any opportunity to "inadvertently" sabotage Kamala's campaign.

Moar popcorn!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (u6/wt)

144 Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: ...


Or, post a picture of the sexiest-looking couch next to a pic of Willie Brown.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (gP18x)

145 I got sucked into a thread on X with a zoomed in video of Comparatore getting shot and the claim was that the blur did not appear to be covering his family like they claim.

Of all the crap, the stupid autistics want to debunk the claim the man died a hero.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (d9LQi)

146 Maybe the parents will come out with the CTE claim like the Louisville shooter's parents did. Except in 6 months we'll find out there was zero CTE and he was just a shit person.

Posted by: nckate at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (4bYb7)

147 The "sale" might also be b/c if dad "sold" it awhile ago, he's off the hook
------

So... there was a bill of sale, right? Right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (XeU6L)

148 I have no doubt that the guy actually did it himself.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (DRSnL)

DO NOT JUDGE

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (v9JpZ)

149 Of all the crap, the stupid autistics want to debunk the claim the man died a hero.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (d9LQi)

Autism is not part of this.

Posted by: Piper at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (PRqXW)

150 Vance is married to his first and only wife and has three young children. They can't tar him with the same sexual peccadillos that they managed to tar Trump with so they have to make something up. WTH does that even mean? I'm sure no one here has ever taken things into their own hands.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2024 12:46 PM (t/2Uw)

151 I don’t really give a crap about the gun except confirmation it was the one that fired the bullets.

I want answers into how he was allowed to get into that position and why Trump was allowed on stage while a suspicious person was knowingly on the loose in the vicinity?

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:46 PM (B1dzx)

152 >>> 123 Props to the first governor who tells state cops not to cooperate with the FBI.
Posted by: mr tmz at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (rJ48h)

...or better yet, to arrest them for impersonating law officers. Not holding my breath, but I expect something like this will be one of the 'mileposts' on the way to Things and Stuff.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2024 12:46 PM (FnneF)

153 "I broached this issue with Mamaw, confessing that I was gay and I was worried that I would burn in hell. She said, "Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?""

I mean, the left should have a really easy time of implying why Vance likes San Francisco, but his wife works there, and at any rate they can't risk making him the next Milo.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 12:46 PM (AKKkq)

154 Trump is scared of Kamala. Rumor is he is going to concede the race on Sat. He knows he can't beat her! She will be president elect the moment she is nominated!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:46 PM (d9LQi)

155 They want to minimize his “victimhood “ status.

See, if he was struck by shrapnel he wasn’t really in danger, just a dumb kid who was a lousy shot.
Which also minimizes the SS f$&@ up.

It’s a distraction and a way to move the conversation away from what Team Coup almost accomplished.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2024 12:46 PM (Hkcdp)

156 But it didn't affect the race and Kamala has completely undone all the damage from Biden's debate by just being brown.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
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Kamala went to an abortion clinic, right? Plenty of blood there. I think Kamala has the blood part right. Now she just has to holler "fight fight fight" in front of an abortion clinic while holding a bloody fetus.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (tT6L1)

157 But it didn't affect the race and Kamala has completely undone all the damage from Biden's debate by just being brown.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (GBKbO)

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Ish.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (DRSnL)

158 So disappointed with this Vance rumor. I had high hopes that we finally found the politician worthy of limitless trust and respect.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (ogTiX)

159 Jan 21, 2025 12:01: First line of inaugural address

My fellow Americans let me just whip this out.... It's the list. My list. It's a huge, beautiful list. You're gonna love my list. The names on this list... Whoo boy, these are some real winners.. Christopher Wray? You're fired! Mayorkas? You're fired! This is gonna take awhile folks.. Did everyone bring water, maybe some snacks?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (4XwPj)

160 I though the parents called to report the gun and son missing?

Posted by: Piper at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (PRqXW)

161 Doesn't work. I still know people that think (or claim to think) Sarah Palin said "I can see Russia from my house".
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (v9JpZ)


Same here. Absolute fools.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (W/lyH)

162 "The temper of the conversation has reached dangerous levels, and it is important that the tone of political discourse has caused this unfortunate situation.

Says the guy who then says this election is an inflection point, a choice between hate and hope.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (xCA6C)

163 115 It's funny how Vance's history is literally an open book but the scum are trying to make him out to be this very shadowy figure.

I haven't decided if he's a good conservative or not but I don't think he's nefarious.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (JeYYB)

Apparently his rise is almost entirely due to being promoted and supported by Peter Thiel.

Take that for what it is. Thiel is a figure who people have opinions on, but I don't know enough to know exactly what that means.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2024 12:41 PM (XYrDz)

Yes, Vance is baby Obama in his rise...he hooked on to the right powerful person (or vice versa - Thiel saw how well Vance could sell)...we'll now see how it goes, and I'll keep saying we chose the wrong Vance, and should have had Lindsay (the lady who, according to the movie, managed to not become a teenage felon, who got married young and stayed married, had kids, AND got their mom sober and functional WHILE holding a job, too, in the community she grew up in that JD was so desparate to leave)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (exHjb)

164 Props to the first governor who tells state cops not to cooperate with the FBI.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (rJ48h)

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This is something I'd like to at least hear from our rural county Sheriff (since our stolen governor's seat is presently held by a Soros Butt-Bitch idiot).

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (WlJra)

165 128 OK, I know the libs are being disingenuous when they use the term "democracy," but isn't a republic in fact a form of democracy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 12:43 PM (v6JzV)

Technically a democratic-republic.

Democracy with a 'middle-man' who coincidentally profits from being a middle-man.

Posted by: davidt at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (i0F8b)

166 How about people read Vance's book and show where exactly the couch fucking took place.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:42 PM (JeYYB)

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The guy who stared the rumor cited page numbers and everything, so I guess people thought it was legit. And the description was...oddly specific. I have no doubt that the guy actually did it himself.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 12:44 PM (DRSnL)
_____

Oh come on now. Who among us hasn't drunk-fucked a couch? The only thing is to make sure you find a good-looking one. You don't wanna be beer-goggling an ugly couch!

But seriously, I'll bet half the leftwing shitheads pouncing on JD for "couch fucking" have had very intimate encounters with the spin cycle.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (iFTx/)

167 Agree.
Sell, with a bill of sale, indicates it wasn't a strawman purchase by Dad.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron


Didn't, or wouldn't be a straw purchase. I haven't seen anything that alluded to the kid being restricted. Straw purchase is only if the recipient is restricted from buying.

Many parents buy their young kids a gun for their birthday. That's not necessarily a straw purchase.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (t8fhO)

168 there were a total of 14 guns in the house."

an arsenal!!!!

even JD Vance's MeeMaw had 22 handguns when she died.

Posted by: Ted Danson at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (BZYCq)

169 Vance just started the rumor himself to goose his book sales!

Posted by: Exploding Teleprompters at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (YuNX7)

170 4Chan has the folks on the autism spectrum.

DU has all the short bus window lickers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (0h/0q)

171 I'd say the "I" in FIB stands for incompetence, but that's giving them too much credit. Still waiting for the tranny shooter manifesto that's supposedly so dangerous (to the Left, at least).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

172 I imagine David French the Apostate is aghast at the couch love.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (JLq/1)

173 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)

174 Ya know...
I think that is the first Willowed First I have ever seen here.
I wonder what other mysteries and wonders this day will bring???

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (W/lyH)

175 Beat me to it. Even if it was shrapnel or glass or whatever (which it wasn't), who gives a shit? HE WAS SHOT AT.

Posted by: Jordan61

Maybe it's a challenge to Trump's heroism in the moment. He was hit by flying glass, not a bullet, therefore he's not particularly brave in that moment.

But, yeah, others were also hit and the whole argument is stupid.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (hCzfy)

176 Dukes of MAGA.
Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/cDOnv6COmYY?si=-weVoqBbFqmI7Aw_

Posted by: Dilley Meme Team at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Kcw7x)

177 That's not a couch, that's my wife!

Posted by: Mr. Doctor Jill Biden at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (YuNX7)

178 Over 400 interviews---shouldn't they be running out of agents soon?

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (hKoQL)

179 170 4Chan has the folks on the autism spectrum.

DU has all the short bus window lickers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (0h/0q)

Well, Kumala has experienced sucking or more knobs that anyone I've heard.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

180 >>> 145 I got sucked into a thread on X with a zoomed in video of Comparatore getting shot and the claim was that the blur did not appear to be covering his family like they claim.

Of all the crap, the stupid autistics want to debunk the claim the man died a hero.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (d9LQi)

You're surprised? Of course the sniveling little rat shit coward soy boys can't cope with someone showing physical courage.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (FnneF)

181 When Wray says "attempted attack on our democracy" he means in the lefty "our democracy" sense - he means "this is bad for the progs", dingbat that he is.

Meanwhile
"and crude explosive devices in his car"

Crude my ass. The detonator the kid had on him has already been ID'ed as part of a professional purpose-built remote detonator control set. I've heard the "explosives" was binary stuff but there is no word yet on whether they were paired with something like real blasting caps, etc.

Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (LZkMk)

182 Generally, back during Obama's rule, you pretty much couldn't touch any model of AR for much less than $1k. Apres le deluge I got one for <$400...still haven't fired it.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (AwYPR)

183 Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (v9JpZ)


"This is wrong, It was sex ON the couch. The coffee table had dinner on it"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (D7oie)

184 173 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)

She's had lots of guys by the balls.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

185 I though the parents called to report the gun and son missing?

They did.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (xCA6C)

186 Jan 21, 2025 12:01: First line of inaugural address- Chris Wray, you are fired.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Nov. 7, 2024: "Don't let me catch you in DC."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (IG4Id)

187
I did not have "couch-fucker" on the 2024 election bingo card.

The October surprise this year is going to be a whopper.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (+oR7L)

188 Wray described the rifle as having a "collapsible stock"

I guess that makes it sound more scary and hideable.

Most of us think of it as an adjustable stock.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (xhfG9)

189 So disappointed with this Vance rumor. I had high hopes that we finally found the politician worthy of limitless trust and respect.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (ogTiX)

------------------

We just need better VP candidates.

/obligatory

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (WlJra)

190 What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:26 PM (B1dzx)


A totally black-colored weapon of war specifically-designed to evaporate children by firing hypersonic hollow-point dum-dum cartridges. It carries 100 bullets in a detachable clip. It has a hand grip like a pistol's that enables its redneck owners who buy them by the dozens through the gun show loophole to fire a million bullets per second. The very-most-lethal models have a folding stock along with a bayonet lug, allowing the fastest-possible killing of children. It is completely useless for hunting deer or any other wild animals.

Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (5fDan)

191 37 Crooks was not a "fairly avid" shooting enthusiast, else he'd have used something just a bit larger on PDT.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)

192 167 Agree.
Sell, with a bill of sale, indicates it wasn't a strawman purchase by Dad.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron


Didn't, or wouldn't be a straw purchase. I haven't seen anything that alluded to the kid being restricted. Straw purchase is only if the recipient is restricted from buying.

Many parents buy their young kids a gun for their birthday. That's not necessarily a straw purchase.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (t8fhO)

Correct. You can buy firearms for immediate family members (it gets fuzzy for cousins) legally. As long as they can legally receive the gun, not a crime.

Also fuck these laws in general.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

193 I heard the "AR-style" rifle had a collapsing stock too, for extra deadliness.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (2xB3Z)

194 My fellow Americans let me just whip this out.... It's the list. My list. It's a huge, beautiful list. You're gonna love my list. The names on this list... Whoo boy, these are some real winners.. Christopher Wray? You're fired! Mayorkas? You're fired! This is gonna take awhile folks.. Did everyone bring water, maybe some snacks?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (4XwPj)

Is it so wrong to want them dragged away Saddam-style? They sponsored a hit on President Trump, they can't cry when they face the hangman.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (AKKkq)

195 > Because the more recent photos make him look like an antifa wannabe. Which he apparently was.
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There was a brief video on X that purported to show Crooks' father in a parking lot, pushing a cart. An antifa type, in full black gear, complete with mask, was accompanying him.

Purported to be the father. Heavyset dude.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (Q4IgG)

196 Come on nurse you’re probably the only conservative left in Seattle, what did you expect?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (5rbBj)

197 I did not have "couch-fucker" on the 2024 election bingo card.

The October surprise this year is going to be a whopper.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (+oR7L)

---------------

BREAKING: JD Vance Broke Into A Furniture Store and Fucked The Entire Living Room Set! Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (WlJra)

198 So disappointed with this Vance rumor. I had high hopes that we finally found the politician worthy of limitless trust and respect.
Posted by: Oglebay


We've never had one. Washington led an army against fellow Americans to quell the Whiskey Rebellion. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (t8fhO)

199 Nurse Ratchet

So they've had a programming update replacing Hero God Bidet with Hero God Kamala.

Ain't they the 'smart' ones.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (0h/0q)

200 143 I'm increasingly fascinated that Obama hasn't endorsed Kamala yet.

...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 25, 2024 12:45 PM (u6/wt)

My theory is that he honestly doesn't give a fuck.

He's always been a lazy grifter who wanted the prestige of having been President, so now he gets all the fame and benefits of relaxing and having conversations with interesting Italians. I don't think he actually cares about being a kingmaker because he's already accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish. He'd endorse Harris if enough of the rest of the party elites nagged him about it, but they're split right and haven't coalesced around Harris or anyone else yet, so he hasn't bothered.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (B9Prs)

201 198 We've never had one. Washington led an army against fellow Americans to quell the Whiskey Rebellion. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (t8fhO)

========

William Henry Harrison was our greatest president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (Zhdbv)

202 At least he didn't eat, or shoot, a dog.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (d9LQi)

203 I expect CNN to interview the couch.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (JLq/1)

204 Lincoln suspended habeus corpus.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods


As did Jefferson Davis.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (v6JzV)

205 197 I did not have "couch-fucker" on the 2024 election bingo card.

The October surprise this year is going to be a whopper.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (+oR7L)

---------------

BREAKING: JD Vance Broke Into A Furniture Store and Fucked The Entire Living Room Set! Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (WlJra)

Bedroom sets were safe, thank God.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

206 Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (exHjb)

Did Vance shoot your dog or something? You have a bee in your bonnet and have never posted anything that supports your concerns about him. You seem just to be pissed Trump didn’t select Youngkin.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (B1dzx)

207 Piper, is the fitness community still wearing their leggings at half-staff in honor of Richard Simmons, or is the official mourning period over?

Posted by: Vic Tanny's Ghost at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (CV8a5)

208 "This is wrong, It was sex ON the couch. The coffee table had dinner on it"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (D7oie)


"And it was just 18 times. You understand, you've seen my wife. "

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (D7oie)

209 143 I'm increasingly fascinated that Obama hasn't endorsed Kamala yet.


--
Journolists are saying he is expected to rndorse her soon

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (EGSGm)

210 191 37 Crooks was not a "fairly avid" shooting enthusiast, else he'd have used something just a bit larger on PDT.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)
---
My theory now is that it was Crooks' aim that resulted in multiple people in the crowd getting hit, and a 2nd experienced shooter who grazed Trump's ear with a missed headshot.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (2xB3Z)

211 201 198 We've never had one. Washington led an army against fellow Americans to quell the Whiskey Rebellion. Lincoln suspended habeus corpus.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (t8fhO)

========

William Henry Harrison was our greatest president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (Zhdbv)

Short and to the point Presidency.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

212 Is it so wrong to want them dragged away Saddam-style? They sponsored a hit on President Trump, they can't cry when they face the hangman.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 12:51 PM (AKKkq)

-----------------

Waterboarding at Club Gitmo for long lists of other names, followed by military tribunals finding them each guilty of treason, followed by public executions on PPV TV.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (WlJra)

213 Afternoon Ace. Wray is a creature of the imperial city, nothing more, nothing less. Trump was convinced by Barr another imperial city creature to appoint Wray . Hopefully Trump has learned a lesson about people who are by the imperial city, for the imperial city and nothing else. Trust none of them

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (9Lk6I)

214 I feel like we did the couch-fucker thing with Kavanaugh already.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (B9Prs)

215 From previous thread:

372 Forgot that 92% of Kamal's staff left because she's such a dumb, bitch.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 25, 2024 12:13 PM (JeYYB)

Consider also the fact that being on staff to a VP or P should be such a resume-enhancer/dream job that people would do anything to get/keep it makes it all the more revealing.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (QGaXH)

216 Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but media (Newsweek and others) now running with "Donald Trump might not have been shot after all." Citing Wray said it was not clear if he was shot or "hit by shrapnel".

Because of course they are.

Posted by: DaisyB at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (AbL8c)

217 Crude my ass. The detonator the kid had on him has already been ID'ed as part of a professional purpose-built remote detonator control set. I've heard the "explosives" was binary stuff but there is no word yet on whether they were paired with something like real blasting caps, etc.
Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (LZkMk)


So yeah I have interest in the "explosives" question because this story has evolved from explosive materials to bomb parts to crude bombs. And he had more than one.

BUT - what had for a remote control was NOT a professional purpose built remote detonator. It was a remote control switch not all that different from a garage door opener.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (xhfG9)

218 "182 Generally, back during Obama's rule, you pretty much couldn't touch any model of AR for much less than $1k. Apres le deluge I got one for
Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (AwYPR)"

If the rifle was bought during the 2013 panic as seems likely, even if it was some shit brand it was probably $1300-2000 bucks when the dad bought it.

Even with inflation, perhaps because of it and prices not catching up, we are still in the golden age of cheap AR's. A cheap AR 15 years ago was a total piece of shit. Now you can get one for $500 that actually works fine and shoots straight, albeit a bit rough around the edges.

Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (LZkMk)

219 10
‘ You can call him Wray. You can call him Jay. ’
Blast from the 1970s

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (jbnUc)

220 *stares into camera*
*raises finger*
*waves finger*

"I did not have sex with that couch!"

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (W/lyH)

221 >143 I'm increasingly fascinated that Obama hasn't endorsed Kamala yet.

Theater, waiting for the big moment at the convention/coronation.

Posted by: davidt at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (i0F8b)

222 BREAKING: JD Vance Broke Into A Furniture Store and Fucked The Entire Living Room Set! Developing ...

And he refuses to take responsibility for the horde of little ottomans he sired.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (xCA6C)

223 Okay Vance is a couch fucker and Kamala is a Blow Job Queen.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (B1dzx)

224 208 "This is wrong, It was sex ON the couch. The coffee table had dinner on it"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:49 PM (D7oie)

"And it was just 18 times. You understand, you've seen my wife. "

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (D7oie)

Right after I was married, the entire house was...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

225 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)
---
I understand bedpans make a satisfying ringing sound when smacked against a skull.

But, not sure of metal bedpans are still a thing. If plastic it might make more of a hollow "DOOT" sound. Might still work.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (xPJvm)

226 Was he on their radar? Usually that's heard before the corpse cools.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (/8Il0)

227 106 Vance should start his next speech with one of those mattress tags hanging from his mouth.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 25, 2024 12:39 PM (Q0kLU)

Just stopping in for a peek during lunch, and I landed on this. Hahahaha!

Thanks, MP3!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (OX9vb)

228 210 191 37 Crooks was not a "fairly avid" shooting enthusiast, else he'd have used something just a bit larger on PDT.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)
---
My theory now is that it was Crooks' aim that resulted in multiple people in the crowd getting hit, and a 2nd experienced shooter who grazed Trump's ear with a missed headshot.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (2xB3Z)

And Trump planned it all! /s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

229 Kamala doesn't really like electric vehicles because there's no muffler to suck

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (JLq/1)

230 JD Vance, on the Ottoman?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (0h/0q)

231 I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)
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A head shot would be lethal, yes. However, even at 130 yards, the head is a hard target to hit. Hitting PDT in the body with 5.56 at 130 yards, decent chance it's not lethal, unlike, say, .308, which will pretty much destroy the chest cavity with the right round.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (tT6L1)

232 Obama will endorse at the DNC. He will want to have his moment.

Like when Neil Armstrong died so he stared at the moon.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (v9JpZ)

233 102 The "couch fucker" is such obvious staged focus group imagery. You can see it on Vance and can't get away from it even when it's "debunked".


Huh ? What did I miss...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (IyPmt)

234 still searching for a manifesto or other writings that could shed light on the 20-year-old Crooks' motive.

... if anybody heard him yell "Allahu Akbar", the motive will never be found

Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (RHGPo)

235 I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)
---
My theory now is that it was Crooks' aim that resulted in multiple people in the crowd getting hit, and a 2nd experienced shooter who grazed Trump's ear with a missed headshot.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (2xB3Z)


Was there a grassy knoll near this rally perchance?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (B9Prs)

236 >>>The FBI director mentioned that the agency is still searching for a manifesto or other writings that could shed light on the 20-year-old Crooks' motive.

>>>lol, sure

I don't get it.

Posted by: m at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (64Zez)

237 My theory now is that it was Crooks' aim that resulted in multiple people in the crowd getting hit, and a 2nd experienced shooter who grazed Trump's ear with a missed headshot.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (2xB3Z)


first shot was on, second and third were missed because Trump was following training and ducking, and the last five were frustrated hail marys like any first-person shooter gamer would do. You know, because you can respawn.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (D7oie)

238 > I'm increasingly fascinated that Obama hasn't endorsed Kamala yet.
-----------
His price has not yet been met.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (Q4IgG)

239 I expect CNN to interview the couch.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (JLq/1)

--------------

"Join Brian Stelter tonight on CNN for the Couch Potato interview!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (WlJra)

240 216 Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but media (Newsweek and others) now running with "Donald Trump might not have been shot after all." Citing Wray said it was not clear if he was shot or "hit by shrapnel".

Because of course they are.
Posted by: DaisyB at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (AbL8c)


This is what happens when people like Wray are loosey goosey with their talk. Wray says Trump was struck by a bullet or shrapnel. So people are like see he wasn't hit by a bullet.

Of course for it to be shrapnel, the bullet would have to have struck something to create fragments. As the bullet did NOT strike something else like the teleprompter which plainly visible fully intact, it has to be the bullet.

But have to keep feeding talking points to their supporters

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (xhfG9)

241 Tune in next week to another exciting episode of Sex Lives of the Politically Connected...

Posted by: Melodramatic Narrator Voice at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (3b0p6)

242 I read in the first hours after Trumps shooting that Crooks took his father's gun from the house.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (Rl/HN)

243 "So yeah I have interest in the "explosives" question because this story has evolved from explosive materials to bomb parts to crude bombs. And he had more than one.

BUT - what had for a remote control was NOT a professional purpose built remote detonator. It was a remote control switch not all that different from a garage door opener.
Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (xhfG9)"

Nope. AlphaFire distributed remote firing system from Remotech. That was a real deal setup. The garage door angle is probably disinfo being pushed by fed shills.

Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (LZkMk)

244 Waterboarding at Club Gitmo for long lists of other names, followed by military tribunals finding them each guilty of treason, followed by public executions on PPV TV.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (WlJra)

I don't much favor the tribunals headed by Milley types, but the program is overall sound. Still, don't underestimate the simplicity of quick work.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (AKKkq)

245 220 *stares into camera*
*raises finger*
*waves finger*

"I did not have sex with that couch!"

Posted by: Diogenes

======

I'm gonna get drug into this eventually.

Posted by: Tijuana Donkey at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (UbQmE)

246 223 Okay Vance is a couch fucker and Kamala is a Blow Job Queen.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:54 PM (B1dzx)

We wrote Dancing Queen, not Blow-Job Queen...

Posted by: ABBA at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

247 Did the FBI interview Ray Epps due to his involvement with the shooter?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (d9LQi)

248 NYPost: Local cops refusing to share info with FBI as agency suffers ‘crisis of confidence’ with DEI hires, damning whistleblower report reveals

Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (RHGPo)

249 this discussion has become a Disney cartoon.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (t/2Uw)

250 It wasn't a couch, it was a davenport.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (d9LQi)

251 Let's talk about Chip Roy's question to Wray, where he asked if any FBI employees displayed disappointment that the gun shot missed the former president.

Apparently, there were a few who responded in that fashion. They weren't fired. They were referred to the internal investigative process of the FBI.

The important thing here is that these "few" felt comfortable enough within the FBI to display such opinions. That should give pause.

Posted by: Orson at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (dIske)

252 *** Wray added. "We believe, based on what we've seen, that his father, after purchasing the gun, legally sold the gun to his son."***
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I read, in quotes, that the son asked his father for the gun to take to the range.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (B/d6U)

253 It seems to sound like the officer who was supposed to be on the roof had come down because it was hot up there and to look for a suspicious character (Crooks) seen near the building, whereupon Crooks used a ladder he brought with him to go up to an empty roof.
From there, I surmise that the rest of the security staff (drawn from multiple organizations) probably thought Crooks was the person assigned to cover the roof (explains why nobody got concerned that people were pointing to a guy on the roof and the reaction of the sharpshooter visible behind Trump) ... until he started shooting at the stage where Trump was speaking.

Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (RHGPo)

254 229 Kamala doesn't really like electric vehicles because there's no muffler to suck

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (JLq/1)

She prefers stick to automatic cars...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

255 207 Piper, is the fitness community still wearing their leggings at half-staff in honor of Richard Simmons, or is the official mourning period over?
Posted by: Vic Tanny's Ghost at July 25, 2024

Ha! Say what you will, that guy got people moving.

Speaking of, I have my noon class to teach. 🙂

Posted by: Piper at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (PRqXW)

256 and the last five were frustrated hail marys like any first-person shooter gamer would do. You know, because you can respawn.
Posted by: Kindltot


Because he was trying to duck his head down below the edge of the roof.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (t8fhO)

257 Not Disney

Hasn't broken down or caught fire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (0h/0q)

258 First I f*ck you couch
Then I f*ck your your candidate

Posted by: JD Vance ready to rumble at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (oZhjI)

259 William Henry Harrison was our greatest president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (Zhdbv)

The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to put Silent Cal at the very top. I’m not kidding

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (HSp7+)

260 Trump: Grab them by the pussy....

JD: Grab them by the ottoman...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (d9LQi)

261 >> It wasn't a couch, it was a davenport.

Well, any davenport in a storm.

Posted by: electronic means at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (rjJqk)

262 Huh ? What did I miss...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (IyPmt)

There is a meme going around about JD Vance that he admitted he was a "couch fucker" in his book. I'm sure it'll hit SNL soon.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (v9JpZ)

263 249 this discussion has become a Disney cartoon.

Gay and lame.

Posted by: With a girlboss at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (3b0p6)

264 Piper, is the fitness community still wearing their leggings at half-staff in honor of Richard Simmons, or is the official mourning period over?
Posted by: Vic Tanny's Ghost


That's raw. Funny as hell. But raw.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (t8fhO)

265
I miss the VP wars of '08 with Sarah Palin.

couch fuckers are no fund to defend.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (+oR7L)

266 Obama will endorse at the DNC. He will want to have his moment.

Like when Neil Armstrong died so he stared at the moon.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (v9JpZ)

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I hope he stares at the sun for a good, long time after AlGore dies.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (WlJra)

267 51 Let's talk about Chip Roy's question to Wray, where he asked if any FBI employees displayed disappointment that the gun shot missed the former president.

Apparently, there were a few who responded in that fashion. They weren't fired. They were referred to the internal investigative process of the FBI

And then promptly added them to Trump's SS unit...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (IyPmt)

268 But have to keep feeding talking points to their supporters
Posted by: blaster
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I would say the media's role is keeping lefties in the dark and feeding shit to them just like mushroom farmers do.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (qdbNv)

269 236 I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)
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My theory now is that it was Crooks' aim that resulted in multiple people in the crowd getting hit, and a 2nd experienced shooter who grazed Trump's ear with a missed headshot.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (2xB3Z)


Was there a grassy knoll near this rally perchance?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (B9Prs)
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If you spot any shifty men on the grassy knolls ping me!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (2xB3Z)

270 Good point, I said strawman; but AFAIK, it doesn't apply to the attempted assassin.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (CeERx)

271 37 Crooks was not a "fairly avid" shooting enthusiast, else he'd have used something just a bit larger on PDT.
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Yep. A 303 or something similar would have been a very flat shot. There would be next to no rise over that distance.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (n17eQ)

272 173
‘ throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala. ’
Glad that I don’t live on the left coast.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (jbnUc)

273 Now they're saying Trump got hit by a couch and Vance fucked a teleprompter.

They can't even keep their lies straight.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (v9JpZ)

274 Black lives matter yesterday had a long screed about the DNC picking the nominee instrad of tye voters

https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/
1816276360593084606

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (EGSGm)

275 Nobody gives a crap about Obama least of all the democraps

Posted by: Lord Percy at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (/cBnn)

276
It was on the divan.
And it was divine.

Posted by: Luvie Howell at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (3b0p6)

277 There is a meme going around about JD Vance that he admitted he was a "couch fucker" in his book. I'm sure it'll hit SNL soon.
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (v9JpZ)

I read the book and I don't remember that part

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (IyPmt)

278 "I don't know about that. The 5.56 nato at 130 yards is more than lethal enough.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 25, 2024 12:50 PM (TIizU)"

A simple center-mass hold and that would have been that. It would not likely have been survivable at that distance, given the same offset from point of aim to point of impact. Especially given the angle it was coming in.

Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (LZkMk)

279 If we don't have couch lint mixed with Vance's DNA it never happened.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (9Lk6I)

280 263 249 this discussion has become a Disney cartoon.

Gay and lame.

Posted by: With a girlboss at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (3b0p6)

Where are the lesbians?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

281
Trump: Grab them by the pussy....

JD: Grab them by the ottoman...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (d9LQi)

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LOL. That there is meme-worthy ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (WlJra)

282 The Republicans passed a resolution today condemning Kamal Harris's handling of the border crisis.

It passed, with six Democrats voting with the Republican majority.

Posted by: mrp at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (rj6Yv)

283 A head shot would be lethal, yes. However, even at 130 yards, the head is a hard target to hit. Hitting PDT in the body with 5.56 at 130 yards, decent chance it's not lethal, unlike, say, .308, which will pretty much destroy the chest cavity with the right round.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (tT6L1)


Opening Trump's giant melon and spattering his brains and blood over the first row would have been must-see TV and if it were a planned assassination and not a lone troon acting troonish, then it would have been the full message, paragraph, stop. Oppose us and die.

Is it true this hick little rally was the first time CNN showed up to broadcast live?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (D7oie)

284 253 It seems to sound like the officer who was supposed to be on the roof had come down because it was hot up there and to look for a suspicious character (Crooks) seen near the building, whereupon Crooks used a ladder he brought with him to go up to an empty roof.
From there, I surmise that the rest of the security staff (drawn from multiple organizations) probably thought Crooks was the person assigned to cover the roof (explains why nobody got concerned that people were pointing to a guy on the roof and the reaction of the sharpshooter visible behind Trump) ... until he started shooting at the stage where Trump was speaking.
Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (RHGPo)

This makes sense to me.

Posted by: m at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (64Zez)

285 I read, in quotes, that the son asked his father for the gun to take to the range.
Posted by: Braenyard


Always remember 2 things.
1. The left always projects. Whatever they accuse you of, they are doing 10x worse.
2. The left lies when the truth would actually be better.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:02 PM (t8fhO)

286 Let phrase that properly: 6 Democrats who fear they're going to lose their jobs if they don't do something to prove their border bona fides.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 01:02 PM (tT6L1)

287 277 There is a meme going around about JD Vance that he admitted he was a "couch fucker" in his book. I'm sure it'll hit SNL soon.

That's better than having sex with Willie Brown

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:02 PM (IyPmt)

288 Sex in Davenport?
No way!

Posted by: We're Iowans at July 25, 2024 01:02 PM (3b0p6)

289 Black lives matter yesterday had a long screed about the DNC picking the nominee instrad of tye voters

https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/
1816276360593084606
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (EGSGm

They want their pound of flesh from Kamala.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 01:02 PM (v9JpZ)

290 249 this discussion has become a Disney cartoon.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (t/2Uw)

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With today's Disney anything goes.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (2xB3Z)

291 The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to put Silent Cal at the very top. I’m not kidding
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
====
Silent Cal has his own mess. He knew that the market bubble was building in 1928 and did little or nothing to stop it because he viewed it as beyond his purview.

By and large he was a good president in his term but left office before the market crash in 1929 came seven months into Hoover's term.

Sort of like how Billy Jeff enabled 9/11 by doing nothing about bin Ladin.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (qdbNv)

292 The killer's house was reportedly sanitized like a lab prior to the authorities search of the premise. Now why would the owners (?) do that assuming it was the owners and not the FBI. Remember what the FNIO did at Waco and to TWA flight 600 Long Island.

Posted by: Jane at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (bXvrr)

293
I once saw a chaise lounge that was mildly arousing, but I'd never fuck it.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (+oR7L)

294 an attack on our democracy," Wray emphasized

Our constitutional Republic, dipshit.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (ufFY8)

295 284 253 It seems to sound like the officer who was supposed to be on the roof had come down because it was hot up there and to look for a suspicious character (Crooks) seen near the building, whereupon Crooks used a ladder he brought with him to go up to an empty roof.
From there, I surmise that the rest of the security staff (drawn from multiple organizations) probably thought Crooks was the person assigned to cover the roof (explains why nobody got concerned that people were pointing to a guy on the roof and the reaction of the sharpshooter visible behind Trump) ... until he started shooting at the stage where Trump was speaking.
Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (RHGPo)

This makes sense to me.

Posted by: m at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (64Zez)

How'd Crooks get back in after the rangefinder incident? Incompetence? All white soy-boys look the same?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

296 "Yep. A 303 or something similar would have been a very flat shot. There would be next to no rise over that distance.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (n17eQ)"

Drop isn't relevant for any centerfire rifle caliber at that distance. 130 yards is well within point blank envelope for 5.56 and at that range it will have more speed and thus less drop than larger calibers - the 5.56 will run out of steam farther on due to being lighter - until you get into stupidly big stuff. Getting the firearm into the venue was likely a bigger consideration than ballistics.

Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (LZkMk)

297 If we don't have couch lint mixed with Vance's DNA it never happened.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 25, 2024 01:00 PM (9Lk6I)

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Old & Busted: Monica Lewinski's Blue Dress.
New Hotness: JD Vance's Couch Wrap.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (WlJra)

298 "Did the Crooks guy have a job? was he in school? What?"

The kid was told a line of bullshirt by some deceitful, well compensated eff bee eye mole.

If Crooks believed that he'd be leaving the shooting site in a hearse, he would have dressed better for the cameras.

Posted by: Ju at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (aTmM/)

299 These are the six Dems voting to condemn Harris's border control pollcy:

Yadira Caraveo of Colorado
Henry Cuellar of Texas
Don Davis of North Carolina
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington
Jared Golden of Maine
Mary Peltola of Alaska

Posted by: mrp at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (rj6Yv)

300 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)


Eh, just respond blandly, "she seems nice but I am concerned about her supposed record of imprisoning blacks at a higher rate than other races when she was a DA, so I am still researching"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)

301 I'm thinking when Harris speaks in that nonsensical gibberish style a certain group of NWO elitists understand what she means.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (Rl/HN)

302 occam says head shot because assumed vest.

Posted by: davidt at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (i0F8b)

303 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)

I'd prescribe a strong, fast acting laxative....just because.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (AwYPR)

304 @293 Al Gore you banged the hell out of that lock box

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (9Lk6I)

305 At least it wasn't a 9mm.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (d9LQi)

306 When I hear them say "our democracy" I hear it with a slight Sicilian accent as if to say "our thing".

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (MeG8a)

307 300 Eh, just respond blandly, "she seems nice but I am concerned about her supposed record of imprisoning blacks at a higher rate than other races when she was a DA, so I am still researching"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)

=======

"I like her style, but combine her eager application of weed laws against black men against her bailing out of BLM protestors, I'm just not sure where she stands on the important issues."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

308 Opening Trump's giant melon and spattering his brains and blood over the first row would have been must-see TV and if it were a planned assassination


Why do you think the broad behind Trump was sitting there smiling and filming and when shots rang out and everyone was shitting themselves, she STILL sat there cool as a cucumber filming everything on her iPhone? She was privy to the hit.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (t8fhO)

309 he was a "couch fucker" in his book.

*whew!*
*wipes brow*

Posted by: The Toaster at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (ufFY8)

310 "302 occam says head shot because assumed vest.
Posted by: davidt at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (i0F8b)"

It's a fair assumption, although I'm not aware of anyone routinely spotted wearing hard armor since GWB.

Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (LZkMk)

311 Is it true this hick little rally was the first time CNN showed up to broadcast live?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (D7oie)

I do wonder why the NYT had an ultra high speed camera at a political rally. Oh wait, I don't wonder at all.

And Crooks' dad must be the gayest man in Butler if he didn't have at least one hunting rifle. If Crooks had used proper .308 center mass, the President would be gone.

But then, so would a lot of other people.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (AKKkq)

312 Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 12:58 PM (RHGPo)

I think it’s been confirmed that Crooks didn’t use a ladder to access the roof.

But this is not a 48 hour rule story. We may have conflicting ‘facts’ forever.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (B1dzx)

313 Did someone actually accuse Vance of having carnal relations with a couch?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (JLq/1)

314 Just thought about this note from the sidebar:

@SenWarren on Harris' biggest accomplishment as VP: She was the "first vice president in history to visit an abortion clinic"
Posted by: rhennigantx

What are the odds Harris "visited" an abortion clinic before being VP? Lol. And, if she had an abortion, would she announce it? Yeah, probably...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (B3pV/)

315 [Per Bongino:]

1. The shooter did not bring a ladder.
2. He used A/C Units to somehow access the roof.
3. The ladder subsequently seen at the scene was law enforcement's using it to access the roof.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (WlJra)

316 Mary Pelota is a reminder to stay away from ranked choice voting. But also what pieces of shit the republican party is.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (d9LQi)

317 Is it true this hick little rally was the first time CNN showed up to broadcast live?
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Their alibi is that PDT might have named his VP candidate at the rally.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (wse2C)

318 Agent Cocksucker Wray said that Trump might not have been hit by a bullet at all !
I believe nothing that the government tells me. Nothing.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (/U5Yz)

319 To be fair to the FiB, all their agents are still busy tracking down grandmothers from J6. They don’t have time to investigate this assassination attempt all that thoroughly.

Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (sc/Rh)

320 291 The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to put Silent Cal at the very top. I’m not kidding
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
====
Silent Cal has his own mess. He knew that the market bubble was building in 1928 and did little or nothing to stop it because he viewed it as beyond his purview.

By and large he was a good president in his term but left office before the market crash in 1929 came seven months into Hoover's term.

Sort of like how Billy Jeff enabled 9/11 by doing nothing about bin Ladin.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (qdbNv)

BJ Bill did worse than that; he cut off communications between various Gov't agencies to cover up his illegal Chinese money funneled through Buddhist monks in AZ...that lead DIRECTLY to Gov't agencies NOT communicating with each other in the lead-up to 9-11 and then the coverup having Gorelick (who was involved in the communcation cut) sit on the 9-11 commission, like having Nancy Pelosi involved in the Jan 6 investigations...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

321 Who among us hasn't spent a wild passionate night with a wing back chair?

Posted by: J. Peterman at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (3b0p6)

322 Remember the TARP crisis 2008 Mccain suspended hie campaign and Bush money men forced the banks to take huge loans. Obama kept campaigning and said If you need my help call -------- Well nobody called. He was a puppet just like FJB. Read the teleprompter.

Posted by: Lord Percy at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (/cBnn)

323 [Per ShainS:]

4. The shooter hid the AR-15 in a cow atop the sloped roof.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (WlJra)

324 300 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)

Eh, just respond blandly, "she seems nice but I am concerned about her supposed record of imprisoning blacks at a higher rate than other races when she was a DA, so I am still researching"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)

Sound like Tulsi!

Posted by: m at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (64Zez)

325 > Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.
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On the plus side she's not a senile as *biden. But that's about it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (Q4IgG)

326 Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched

I'd prescribe a strong, fast acting laxative....just because.
Posted by: BignJames


Along with sprinkling black pepper around the room.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (t8fhO)

327 Vance was a Marine. Marines don't need no stinkin' couches.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (W/lyH)

328 "I would love a woman president too but I hear she slept her way to the top. Look up Willie Brown, it's gross."

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (v9JpZ)

329 Yesterday, Wray testified that the FBI was seriously investigating a "hypothesis" that the assassin was livestreaming video from his drone in the area of the rally a day or two before the shooting.

Posted by: mrp at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (rj6Yv)

330 293
I once saw a chaise lounge that was mildly arousing, but I'd never fuck it.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (+oR7L)

Probably because it had no good way of releasing your Chakras.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

331 216 Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but media (Newsweek and others) now running with "Donald Trump might not have been shot after all." Citing Wray said it was not clear if he was shot or "hit by shrapnel".

Because of course they are.

Posted by: DaisyB at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (AbL8c)


They'd love to say the scumbag wanted to kill someone in the crowd, not Trump. Then they'll say Trump is no hero or potential martyr, just another bystander who happened to be nicked by shard of a bleacher handrail or bench that one of the shooter's bullets hit. A bullet aimed 50 feet away from Trump. Then they'll ridicule him for falling to the stage floor and cowering under a pile of ultra-brave SS agents, when he was in no danger at all.

Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (5fDan)

332 You fuck one couch and all of a sudden you’re a couch-fucker?

Posted by: bed head at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (Y1sOo)

333 286 Let phrase that properly: 6 Democrats who fear they're going to lose their jobs if they don't do something to prove their border bona fides.
Posted by: blake

Dem (or GOP) party leaders in Congress 'allow' defectors in order to keep those seats in an ensuing election. Enrages the party activists but that is the sort of log rolling that party leaders are expected to do. We get pissed when GOP members in leftist states defect too. Our problem is like McCain, they defect when the matter is important and likely to pass---the Dems do it on do nothing resolutions, bills headed for no where, etc.

When the chips are down and the stakes are important, there always seems to be Arlen Spectors on the GOP side and Dems that walk the plank to support idiocy (Manchin is a perfect example as is Sinema).

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (qdbNv)

334 By and large he was a good president in his term but left office before the market crash in 1929 came seven months into Hoover's term.

Sort of like how Billy Jeff enabled 9/11 by doing nothing about bin Ladin.
Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (qdbNv)

I was influenced by Amity Schlaes bio. She has a more positive take. She also argues that it was Hoover (and then FDR) caused the Great Depression by continually trying govt intervention

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (HSp7+)

335 Who among us hasn't spent a wild passionate night with a wing back chair?

Posted by: J. Peterman at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (3b0p6)

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Well-played.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (WlJra)

336 The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to put Silent Cal at the very top. I’m not kidding
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 12:59 PM (HSp7+)


Coolidge, then Jefferson. Jefferson was a great man who also felt he had to bend to political winds and the opinions of his peers.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (D7oie)

337 Did someone actually accuse Vance of having carnal relations with a couch?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 25, 2024 01:05 PM (JLq/1)

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I don't know if "accuse" is the right word. Someone basically said, "hey look at this passage from his book where he talks about f*cking a couch!" And it was not true, obviously.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (DRSnL)

338 302 occam says head shot because assumed vest.

Posted by: davidt at July 25, 2024 01:04 PM (i0F8b)

His razor gives very fine shaves; I highly recommend it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

339 Nope. AlphaFire distributed remote firing system from Remotech. That was a real deal setup. The garage door angle is probably disinfo being pushed by fed shills.
Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (LZkMk)


The alphatec is for pyrotechnics. The transmitter costs all of $15 and available for sale without restriction.

https://tinyurl.com/2tjcufhk

Scroll down to see photo of transmitter.

Here it is for sale:

https://tinyurl.com/nya83t8t

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (xhfG9)

340 You haven't lived until you've had Sectional Sex.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (W/lyH)

341 From Monkey-thread:

428 Who the H ever looked at a woman and found her arms to be desirable???

Bless you.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 25, 2024 12:27 PM (xCA6C)

SNORTED!

Thank you Ach...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (QGaXH)

342
Breaking: JD Vance had sexual relationship with underage Sofa. Furniture specialist confirms Sofa was only 8 years old.

Posted by: MSNBC at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (+oR7L)

343
There's good.
And there's sofa king good.

Posted by: My teen age self at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (3b0p6)

344 Why would any male VP (read: any other VP) visit an abortion clinic in an official capacity without looking like a sick creepy ghoul?

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (v9JpZ)

345 244 Waterboarding at Club Gitmo for long lists of other names, followed by military tribunals finding them each guilty of treason, followed by public executions on PPV TV.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (WlJra)
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And extreme fees for personal attendance.

All proceeds toward the national debt.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (B/d6U)

346 I was influenced by Amity Schlaes bio. She has a more positive take. She also argues that it was Hoover (and then FDR) caused the Great Depression by continually trying govt intervention
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (HSp7+)
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If memory serves, Coolidge didn't think much of Hoover.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (tT6L1)

347 342
Breaking: JD Vance had sexual relationship with underage Sofa. Furniture specialist confirms Sofa was only 8 years old.

LOL... You win

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (IyPmt)

348 *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)
_________

I'm sure two weeks ago this same patient would have been like "Kamala who? Was that Willie Brown's whore?" The NPC programming has been downloaded and the clapping seals are clapping.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (iFTx/)

349 Garfield vetoed a bill that would pay war widows money because he didn't think it was the government's place to send tax money to individuals.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (d9LQi)

350 At my grandparents' house, you couldn't impregnate the couch.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (YIxO9)

351 I once saw a chaise lounge that was mildly arousing, but I'd never fuck it.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (+oR7L)

Probably because it had no good way of releasing your Chakras.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

A little wooden straight backed chair in the Mexican restaurant was giving me a look.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (ufFY8)

352 What’s an AR -15 ‘styled’ rifle ?
Posted by: polynikes

'Colt's Manufacturing Company holds the trademark for the AR-15 name, and is the only manufacturer that can legally label their firearms as such. ArmaLite originally sold the patent and trademarks for the AR-15 to Colt'.

'AR-15' is a trademark, like Lego or Kleenex. If another company makes that design of rifle they can't call it an AR-15. So a brand other than Colt can be described as an 'AR-15 styled rifle'.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (bFId9)

353 Just wondering, was JD's couch a two-seater or a three-seater?

Posted by: Sir-Mix-A-Lot at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (i0F8b)

354 I submit that it’s impossible to have sexual relations with furniture…. A more accurate term would be masturbation. If I was more clever I could figure out how to say that without using the m-word a la Seinfeld’s The Contest

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (HSp7+)

355 Viva Frei
@thevivafrei·4m
Post-Congressional Assassination Attempt ANALYSIS with Chris Martenson! 2 Shooters? Viva Frei Live!
x.com/thevivafrei/status/1816518847392022772

Post-Congressional Assassination Attempt ANALYSIS with Chris Martenson! 2 Shooters? Viva Frei Live!
Live from Rumble Studio
https://t.co/u989l1OY9N
Discussing the assassination attempt in light of the info from the congressional hearings.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (9aVck)

356 She also argues that it was Hoover (and then FDR) caused the Great Depression by continually trying govt intervention
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Absolutely. Hoover went full Keynesian and turned what would have been a 12 Month downturn into a 10 year downturn. FDR just took the baton and ran with it.

Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (sc/Rh)

357 Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom

BREAKING: The U.S. House of Representatives just voted to condemn the Biden administration's open border policy & Border Czar
@KamalaHarris

*6 Democrats voted to condemn it. lol

https://tinyurl.com/369tteft

Posted by: redridinghood at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (NpAcC)

358
Remember "nobody likes Kamala"?

Well that was a waste of a perfectly good 4 years.

Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (v9JpZ)

359 I think those plastic slip covers were on because everyone smoked. And then when you had people over, everyone smoked and/or spilled their Manhattans.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (YIxO9)

360 Heartbeat, It's a Loveseat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (63Dwl)

361 >>> 283 A head shot would be lethal, yes. However, even at 130 yards, the head is a hard target to hit. Hitting PDT in the body with 5.56 at 130 yards, decent chance it's not lethal, unlike, say, .308, which will pretty much destroy the chest cavity with the right round.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 12:55 PM (tT6L1)

Opening Trump's giant melon and spattering his brains and blood over the first row would have been must-see TV and if it were a planned assassination and not a lone troon acting troonish, then it would have been the full message, paragraph, stop. Oppose us and die.

Is it true this hick little rally was the first time CNN showed up to broadcast live?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:01 PM (D7oie)

I don't know if it was the first *ever* but I think it was the first this year. It's been suggested that they were there because they thought he would announce his VP pick, but in light of what we've learned since then, I find this less and less plausible.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (FnneF)

362 Breaking: JD Vance had sexual relationship with underage Sofa. Furniture specialist confirms Sofa was only 8 years old.
Posted by: MSNBC'

Then as soon as he paid it off it collapsed and died.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (bFId9)

363 332 You fuck one couch and all of a sudden you’re a couch-fucker?

Posted by: bed head at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (Y1sOo)

::: smiles sheepishly :::

Posted by: Muhhamed at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

364 335 Who among us hasn't spent a wild passionate night with a wing back chair?

Posted by: J. Peterman at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (3b0p6)

------------

Well-played.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (WlJra)
----
I got a pitch for you. A coffee table book... of fuckable couches!

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (2xB3Z)

365 Many parents buy their young kids a gun for their birthday. That's not necessarily a straw purchase.
Posted by: rickb223
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Or a Christmas present!

Posted by: 10 year-old Mike Hammer at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (XeU6L)

366 346 If memory serves, Coolidge didn't think much of Hoover.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2024 01:09 PM (tT6L1)

======

Hoover went against the advice of his own Commerce Secretary on how to deal with the crash.

Hoover had recommended non-intervention with Harding as Commerce Secretary during a crash under Harding's presidency. That crash was corrected within a year or so, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

367 One couch let me rip off its tag.

Posted by: JD Vance at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (ufFY8)

368 Eh, just respond blandly, "she seems nice but I am concerned about her supposed record of imprisoning blacks at a higher rate than other races when she was a DA, so I am still researching"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)

I'm still researching too, (wink, wink) Did you know she was personally responsible for keeping only black men in prison past their release date so they could provide cheap labor for the state? I think it's because she is a decendant of one of the biggest slave owners in Haiti.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (RLLZj)

369 Clown World is just so tiresome.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (A2E7p)

370
There's stuffed.
And there's overstuffed.

Posted by: NoWutImSayin at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (3b0p6)

371 "Hey Jack, lay off of Vance. There's a reason I have Jill dress up like a couch wherever we go." - Good Ol' Joe

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (KbCG3)

372 qdbNv)

I was influenced by Amity Schlaes bio. She has a more positive take. She also argues that it was Hoover (and then FDR) caused the Great Depression by continually trying govt intervention
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (HSp7+)

According to Friedman it was because Hoover listen to advice NOT to intervene by using the Fed to back up the banks that the crisis was set up to turn into the Great Depression.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (B1dzx)

373 It had to come around to blaming the gun. It had to. The left can’t waste this opportunity.

Posted by: Eromero at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (o2ZRX)

374
Wray is full of shit. High resolution video shows the teleprompters untouched. What a piece of shit. He's just throwing a bone to the left to gnaw on forever.

He's gotta be near the tippity top of those who have to be gone in January next year.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (RKVpM)

375 Nope. AlphaFire distributed remote firing system from Remotech. That was a real deal setup. The garage door angle is probably disinfo being pushed by fed shills.
Posted by: somedood at July 25, 2024 12:57 PM (LZkMk)

The alphatec is for pyrotechnics. The transmitter costs all of $15 and available for sale without restriction.

https://tinyurl.com/2tjcufhk

Scroll down to see photo of transmitter.

Here it is for sale:

https://tinyurl.com/nya83t8t

Posted by: blaster



Sportsmoke.com
Electric remote fire
Electric Fire Systems
Sport Smoke Electric FireRemote detonate your smoke grenades from over 600 feet away with Sport Smoke Electric Fire! Easy peasy. Hardly a piffle.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (t8fhO)

376 It was a very long couch IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: JD Vance at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (v9JpZ)

377 Was it fine Corinthian leather?

Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (3b0p6)

378 the agency is still searching for a manifesto or other writings that could shed light on the 20-year-old Crooks' motive
......

We may never know the motiva.....
Aw, fuggit.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (v0R5T)

379 Breaking: JD Vance had sexual relationship with underage Sofa. Furniture specialist confirms Sofa was only 8 years old.

LOL... You win
Posted by: It's me donna

What do you mean "underage"? That's certified Grade A mish right there!!!

Posted by: Prophet Muhammad (and Joe Biden) at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (B3pV/)

380 Hate to see Vance's response to one of those vibrating loungers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (Q4IgG)

381 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

Just the opposite.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (B1dzx)

382 "The attempted assassination of the former president was an attack on our democracy,"

"Which is fine when you're shooting Republicans. We just have to make sure the Democrats are fully protected...so we can have democracy."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (WPL6O)

383 Is it true this hick little rally was the first time CNN showed up to broadcast live?
Posted by: Kindltot
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We just lucked out...you know...like at Roger Stone's house.

Posted by: CNN at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (XeU6L)

384 206 Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (exHjb)

Did Vance shoot your dog or something? You have a bee in your bonnet and have never posted anything that supports your concerns about him. You seem just to be pissed Trump didn’t select Youngkin.
Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (B1dzx)

I call an opportunist when I see one. When he actually does something that might change that view, I'll let you know.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (exHjb)

385 Don't even get me started about pool floats.
Guy who was sentenced to attend Pool Float Fuckers Anonymous after being arrested at a municipal pool

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (9Lk6I)

386 I’m researching as well. I heard she grew up in Canada and was raised by her single mother who is Indian not black. Which would make her nowhere near a true African American woman.

But lots of research still needed.

Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (sc/Rh)

387 Jamaica not Haiti.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 25, 2024 01:14 PM (wse2C)

388 364 335 Who among us hasn't spent a wild passionate night with a wing back chair?

Posted by: J. Peterman at July 25, 2024 01:06 PM (3b0p6)

------------

Well-played.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 25, 2024 01:07 PM (WlJra)
----
I got a pitch for you. A coffee table book... of fuckable couches!

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at July 25, 2024 01:10 PM (2xB3Z)

Ones with lots of nooks and crannies...and a centerfold sectional!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

389 Who among us hasn't spent a wild passionate night with a wing back chair?

Posted by: J. Peterman
......

Or an ottoman.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2024 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

390 386 I’m researching as well. I heard she grew up in Canada and was raised by her single mother who is Indian not black. Which would make her nowhere near a true African American woman.

But lots of research still needed.
Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (sc/Rh)

Just cut to the chase... She's an imbecile

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:14 PM (IyPmt)

391 The Deep State wanted his brains blown out on live, global feed. They were going for a global psychological terroristic trauma on par with 9/11 and the lockdowns. The fact that Lee Harvey Asperger missed in a "miraculous" fluke should not take away from the evil revealed.
https://shorturl.at/dcu3I
Ann B is not a fan of Trump and mentions the word kayfabe a lot, but she is even less a fan of Clown World.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2024 01:14 PM (FnneF)

392 I call an opportunist when I see one. When he actually does something that might change that view, I'll let you know.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (exHjb)

So you got nothing .

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (B1dzx)

393 One pool noodle a month ought to be enough for anybody.

Posted by: Karen McAwfl at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (3b0p6)

394 I like big cushions and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Laz-Z-Boy at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY8)

395 Eh weekend before the RNC, yeah I can see CNN broadcasting a rally live hoping the VP is announced.

Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (sc/Rh)

396 Was it fine Corinthian leather?
Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (3b0p6)

=====

Corinth is famous for its leather!

- Sterling Archer

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (DRSnL)

397 Florida Department of Law Enforcement Loses in Court Over It Delaying Gun Purchases

Red Florida my ass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (/U5Yz)

398 380 Hate to see Vance's response to one of those vibrating loungers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2024 01:12 PM (Q4IgG)

He'd use it if he were a Mormon... You're soaking in it, JD!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

399 F plunging on big earnings miss as they take huge charge ($5.5 B with a B) related to EVs....according to nice-looking lady in blue on Charles Paine's show....

Warms the cockles of my black little ICE-loving heart....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (QGaXH)

400 394 I like big cushions and I cannot lie.
Posted by: Sir Laz-Z-Boy at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY

LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (IyPmt)

401 Vance says he fucked a couch in his book

No, it does not. That is not in there.

Prove it!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (d9LQi)

402 Duckface Wray raises my blood pressure when I see him.

You know how I know Wray is a POS? He was approved by all the other POS's.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

403 295 How'd Crooks get back in after the rangefinder incident? Incompetence? All white soy-boys look the same?

... the building was not in the USSS' controlled zone

Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (RHGPo)

404 Vance is a gentleman.
First he wined her.
Then dined her.
Then he reclined her.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (W/lyH)

405 One time there was that discarded couch along the side of the road...

Posted by: Penthouse Forum Author JD V at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (i0F8b)

406 381 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

Just the opposite.
Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (B1dzx)

=======

Well, if you call cutting taxes in the Revenue Act of 1921 intervention, sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

407 Nobody knew nothing.

The zoomer has no digital footprint, and never wrote a single thing down. No friends, no pictures on his phone. Zip and zero. It's a real cypher.

Guess we'll never know what motivated this lone gunman, right? Just like we 'll never know what motivated the Las Vegas shooter, right?

Posted by: El Mariachi at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (nLFEI)

408 394 I like big cushions and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Laz-Z-Boy at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY

LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

409 392 I call an opportunist when I see one. When he actually does something that might change that view, I'll let you know.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (exHjb)

So you got nothing .
Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (B1dzx)

I got him for years absolutely destroying Trump and his team...and then turning on a dime.

So, yeah, I'll wait until it's bad for his political future to be with us...and see if he stays...

We've been burned way too many times to trust a guy who told us who is was...1st...and then changed when the winds of politics changed...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (exHjb)

410 I figured they could have gotten more out of the corpse of J Edgar Hoover than they got out of Wray

Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (RHGPo)

411 I like big cushions and I cannot lie.
Posted by: Sir Laz-Z-Boy at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY
________

Beat me to it. But . . .

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (iFTx/)

412 Question for Wray:
Does the kids bank account have any direct deposits from a federal agency?

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (v0R5T)

413 The alphatec is for pyrotechnics. The transmitter costs all of $15 and available for sale without restriction.

https://tinyurl.com/2tjcufhk

Scroll down to see photo of transmitter.

Here it is for sale:

https://tinyurl.com/nya83t8t

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2024 01:08 PM (xhfG9)

So basically the same tech as a garage door opener, or car remote start, packaged and marketed for pyrotechnics. Not rocket science.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (zTh/f)

414 I believe nothing Christopher Wray says.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (dTTBf)

415 I was influenced by Amity Schlaes bio.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
=========
Amity is not the final word because she is a polemicist. To some degree she benefits from the paucity of biographies on Silent Cal.

If you care to dig it up, Chase Bank's chief economist account who had a ringside seat at the time and even Hoover was not responsible nor was Smoot Hawley. Essentially, the international crisis was building due to international monetary flows freezing up--a crude summary is that the Germans got loans to pay reparations to France and UK which in turn had to pay war loans back to the US.

The domestic crisis in the US is that rural electrification, radio broadcasting, and other up and coming industries had speculative market valuation far in excess of their actual income (like tech today for example). That sort of thing happens when people are desperate for a quick buck and they use debt as a leverage to make money through buying on margin, etc.

Then, the Fed screwed the pooch after Black October by raising interest rates and reserve requirements which froze normal credit markets which then affected Main Street businesses.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (qdbNv)

416 I like big cushions and I cannot lie.
Posted by: Sir Laz-Z-Boy at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY

LOL
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (IyPmt)


Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (W/lyH)

417 I like big cushions and I cannot lie.
Posted by: Sir Laz-Z-Boy


This place.

Posted by: Snort! at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (3b0p6)

418 Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 12:47 PM (exHjb)

Did Vance shoot your dog or something? You have a bee in your bonnet and have never posted anything that supports your concerns about him. You seem just to be pissed Trump didn’t select Youngkin.
Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 12:52 PM (B1dzx)

I call an opportunist when I see one. When he actually does something that might change that view, I'll let you know.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (exHjb)


I am so very glad it was not Youngkin, myself.

Posted by: Redbanzai at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (RkSNw)

419 I’m researching as well. I heard she grew up in Canada and was raised by her single mother who is Indian not black. Which would make her nowhere near a true African American woman.

But lots of research still needed.
Posted by: Kumala Word Salad


Wikipedia lays it all out.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (t8fhO)

420 Their alibi is that PDT might have named his VP candidate at the rally.
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C
That's what I presumed was the reason they were there.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (4XwPj)

421 In today's episode of "Who's Running the Country?", Biden and Harris will meet SEPARATELY with Israeli PM Netanyahu this afternoon. Harris two hours or so later than Biden.

Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (5fDan)

422 Jamaica not Haiti

-------

Got it. Thanks.

That's why I always run my research past morons.

Morons fact checkers are the best fact checkers.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (RLLZj)

423 295 How'd Crooks get back in after the rangefinder incident? Incompetence? All white soy-boys look the same?

... the building was not in the USSS' controlled zone
Posted by: SMOD at July 25, 2024 01:15 PM (RHGPo)

Makes one wonder if the venue's security checkpoint was farther from podium than the assassin's rooftop perch.

Posted by: mrp at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (rj6Yv)

424 We should be skeptical if not outright distrusting of any R who wants our support. They need to earn it. Insanity is trusting them over and over, and honestly it's not good for anyone's health to go through this repeatedly.

Rubio had a lovefest here. As did Ryan. And Dick Cheney. And many others.

Plus I mean it's not like Trump's record of picking people is spotless. Skepticism is good.

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (v9JpZ)

425 even JD Vance's MeeMaw had 22 handguns when she died.
Posted by: Ted Danson

I loved the stories he tells about her. Re: the 22 guns...he explained that as she was elderly and not moving around very well, she wanted guns within arms reach all over the house in case she needed one. A woman after my own heart.

Posted by: Cheri at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (oiNtH)

426 Just cut to the chase... She's an imbecile
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:14 PM (IyPmt)


We know that of course. But telling LIVs that doesn’t work. You have to go with the “I like her but….” approach. I like her but I heard she did such and such which makes me wonder about her.
That gets the LIV to think hmm maybe there’s something there. As opposed to telling the LIV she’s an idiot and the LIV just dismissed you as a Trunper who hates women or whatever.

Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (sc/Rh)

427 Silent Cal has his own mess. He knew that the market bubble was building in 1928 and did little or nothing to stop it because he viewed it as beyond his purview.

By and large he was a good president in his term but left office before the market crash in 1929 came seven months into Hoover's term.

Sort of like how Billy Jeff enabled 9/11 by doing nothing about bin Ladin.
Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:03 PM (qdbNv)


The market crash may have sorted itself out far faster if there had not been all the aid to the banks and big business to try to reduce their losses. The 1929 crash was due to a number of things, a lot of which had to do with far too much money and credit creating a business cycle. Hoover and FDR trying to fix it all made it deeper and longer.

I actually got some info on the boom of agriculture productivity, there is indication that American Ag underwent booms in production due to Federal loans for equipment and land improvement to combat the slump post WWI. This would have created a market glut at the time the business cycle collapsed, and the moves to destroy food and restrict production by udoing the supply side of the business cycle

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (D7oie)

428 I believe nothing Christopher Wray says.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (dTTBf)

I don't even believe that's his real name.

Posted by: BignJames at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (AwYPR)

429 405 One time there was that discarded couch along the side of the road...
Posted by: Penthouse Forum Author JD V


I can change her...

Posted by: Hope springs eternal at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (3b0p6)

430 I'm jealous.

Posted by: JD Vance's toaster at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (v0R5T)

431 421 In today's episode of "Who's Running the Country?", Biden and Harris will meet SEPARATELY with Israeli PM Netanyahu this afternoon. Harris two hours or so later than Biden.
Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (5fDan)

I knew they would have to.. Should we expect some sort of miraculous peace agreement with Hamas ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (IyPmt)

432
Why does the left always come up with candidates of questionable constitutional ability to be President?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (RKVpM)

433 He had a grandma with a cutesy name! He grew up poor. He likes pie!

Don't give a fuck. Show me what you are.

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (v9JpZ)

434 So when the investigation is done, what are the chances the USSS gets hit with dereliction of duty and maybe some murder/manslaughter charges given that, if they'd done their jobs, neither Comperatore nor Crooks would have been killed?

Who am I kidding, we'll be lucky if they don't bring charges against Trump for instigating the whole event by having an open-air campaign event and being Trump.

Posted by: Nutsy at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (+qBlo)

435 415
...
Then, the Fed screwed the pooch after Black October by raising interest rates and reserve requirements which froze normal credit markets which then affected Main Street businesses.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (qdbNv)

Coolidge was no longer President in October of 1929...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (ynpvh)

436 This isn't the first time I've seen all sorts of references to what this kid supposedly had in his car/bike/mini-van.

What is the point of body armor in the car, along with extra ammo/mags?

And whatever happened to the storyline about explosives in a car and at his house and him having a detonator on the roof?

Typical clusterfuck dumbshit government coverrup.

Posted by: ghbucky at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (/xDbx)

437 We've been burned way too many times to trust a guy who told us who is was...1st...and then changed when the winds of politics changed...
Posted by: Nova Local
======
That is pretty much the rule for all politicians. There are a few in hindsight that are statesmen like DJT. Most are opportunists and hungry for power and adulation.

The only way to separate the two is observation and experience.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (qdbNv)

438 435 415
...
Then, the Fed screwed the pooch after Black October by raising interest rates and reserve requirements which froze normal credit markets which then affected Main Street businesses.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:17 PM (qdbNv)

Coolidge was no longer President in October of 1929...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (ynpvh)

======

And the Fed is "independent".

Why are you laughing?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

439 If you care to dig it up, Chase Bank's chief economist account who had a ringside seat at the time and even Hoover was not responsible nor was Smoot Hawley. Essentially, the international crisis was building due to international monetary flows freezing up--a crude summary is that the Germans got loans to pay reparations to France and UK which in turn had to pay war loans back to the US.

Um, why did international monetary flows dry up? Because of the sudden end of free trade due to Smoot Hawley.

Trying to find other culprits other than Smoot Hawley is a Hobby of those who are passionately anti-freedom. Just like minimum wage proponents race to make excuses when minimum wage hikes cause layoffs and businesses to not hire.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (Nt9p1)

440 And let me go further...a celebrity opportunist with no political record or leadership of any import.

If we wanted someone with such a thin record, it should have always been Sanders. Someone who stuck by Trump through thick and thin.

It's not good to put up someone who's made no hard calls on our ticket...but if we were going to do so, then Sanders was the one in the category. Loyalty before celebrity...trust before smooth talker...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (exHjb)

441 even JD Vance's MeeMaw had 22 handguns when she died.
Posted by: Ted Danson

I loved the stories he tells about her. Re: the 22 guns...he explained that as she was elderly and not moving around very well, she wanted guns within arms reach all over the house in case she needed one. A woman after my own heart.
Posted by: Cheri


Most people would just keep one or two on them.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (t8fhO)

442 430 I'm jealous.

Posted by: JD Vance's toaster at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (v0R5T)

That's so hot...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

443 Lol, new poll.

Trump leads Harris in AZ +5, GA +2, PA +2, MI +1; tied in WI.

But, Harris gaining in the all-important yuth vote.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (HxZpr)

444 432
Why does the left always come up with candidates of questionable constitutional ability to be President?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (RKVpM

She was born in Oakland. She’s eligible. End of story. Please I beg the right don’t start with this birther shit again.

Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (sc/Rh)

445 431 421 In today's episode of "Who's Running the Country?", Biden and Harris will meet SEPARATELY with Israeli PM Netanyahu this afternoon. Harris two hours or so later than Biden.
Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (5fDan)

I knew they would have to.. Should we expect some sort of miraculous peace agreement with Hamas ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (IyPmt)

I thought Netenyahu was in Florida today?

Posted by: Redbanzai at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (RkSNw)

446 We should be skeptical if not outright distrusting of any R who wants our support. They need to earn it. Insanity is trusting them over and over, and honestly it's not good for anyone's health to go through this repeatedly.

Rubio had a lovefest here. As did Ryan. And Dick Cheney. And many others.

Plus I mean it's not like Trump's record of picking people is spotless. Skepticism is good.
Posted by: ... at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (v9JpZ)

=====

All of this.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (DRSnL)

447 He'll come back.
He always does.

Posted by: JD Vance's waterbed at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (3b0p6)

448 We've been burned way too many times to trust a guy who told us who is was...1st...and then changed when the winds of politics changed...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (exHjb)

You just described Trump who in his 50’s and 60’s said he wouldn’t ban partial birth abortion, signed a man made climate change petition, supported the AWB and agreed with Kelo.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:22 PM (B1dzx)

449 In today's episode of "Who's Running the Country?", Biden and Harris will meet SEPARATELY with Israeli PM Netanyahu this afternoon. Harris two hours or so later than Biden.
Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (5fDan)

I knew they would have to.. Should we expect some sort of miraculous peace agreement with Hamas ?
Posted by: It's me donna


Watch Bibi walk out of the meeting shaking his head and mumbling, "I can't believe she is that stupid!"

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (t8fhO)

450 I thought Netenyahu was in Florida today? Posted by: Redbanzai at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (RkSNw)

Tomorrow if that's still on.. Bibi needs the weapons Joe's handlers are holding back.. He wouldn't want to anger them by meeting trump

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (IyPmt)

451 NOOD

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

452 You just described Trump who in his 50’s and 60’s said he wouldn’t ban partial birth abortion, signed a man made climate change petition, supported the AWB and agreed with Kelo.
Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:22 PM (B1dzx)

And people weren't skeptical of him?

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (v9JpZ)

453 We should be skeptical if not outright distrusting of any R who wants our support. They need to earn it. Insanity is trusting them over and over, and honestly it's not good for anyone's health to go through this repeatedly.

Rubio had a lovefest here. As did Ryan. And Dick Cheney. And many others.

Plus I mean it's not like Trump's record of picking people is spotless. Skepticism is good.
Posted by: ... at July 25, 2024 01:18 PM (v9JpZ)

=====

All of this.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (DRSnL)

Nova is not skeptical. She’s almost a NeverVance.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (B1dzx)

454 448 We've been burned way too many times to trust a guy who told us who is was...1st...and then changed when the winds of politics changed...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:16 PM (exHjb)

You just described Trump who in his 50’s and 60’s said he wouldn’t ban partial birth abortion, signed a man made climate change petition, supported the AWB and agreed with Kelo.
Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:22 PM (B1dzx)

Yeah, and I did not vote for him in the 2016 primary...but I did in the main election b/c he was no Hillary, and that had to be enough. That was a hope vote, which is what Vance is gonna be.

Trump earned trust through 4 years of governing for an easy 2020 vote.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (exHjb)

455 Well, it was Sofa Vergara. I'd have banged it, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2024 01:24 PM (v6JzV)

456 She was born in Oakland. She’s eligible. End of story. Please I beg the right don’t start with this birther shit again.
Posted by: Kumala Word Salad at July 25, 2024 01:21 PM (sc/Rh)

This.

There is SO MUCH to point out that the Whore is not fit to be President without going all conspiratorial.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 01:24 PM (Nt9p1)

457 And people weren't skeptical of him?
Posted by: ... at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (v9JpZ)

Yeah the NeverTrumpers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:24 PM (B1dzx)

458 She was born in Oakland. She’s eligible. End of story. Please I beg the right don’t start with this birther shit again.
Posted by: Kumala Word Salad


Beg all the fuck you want.
She was two parents who WERE NOT citizens. In 1964.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:24 PM (t8fhO)

459 434 So when the investigation is done, what are the chances the USSS gets hit with dereliction of duty and maybe some murder/manslaughter charges given that, if they'd done their jobs, neither Comperatore nor Crooks would have been killed?

Who am I kidding, we'll be lucky if they don't bring charges against Trump for instigating the whole event by having an open-air campaign event and being Trump.
Posted by: Nutsy at July 25, 2024 01:19 PM (+qBlo)

They'll hit Trump with Accessory to Murder but none of the SS will be charged with anything including murder...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 25, 2024 01:24 PM (QGaXH)

460 I figured they could have gotten more out of the corpse of J Edgar Hoover than they got out of Wray
Posted by: SMOD

Hey you guys! Don't be so mean to Chris. It's July and he has critical business to conduct. He has a private FBI plane to catch to get to his vacation home at Saranac Lake.

Posted by: Cheri at July 25, 2024 01:26 PM (oiNtH)

461 The handlers cut Biden's pre-Oval Office photo op with Bibi meeting very very short just now so Biden wouldn't need note cards, No cover-up, nope not at all. All Biden said was welcome we have lots to talk about, you know, the first Israeli PM I met with was Golda Meir.

Posted by: Gref at July 25, 2024 01:27 PM (5fDan)

462 My dearly departed Pappymayhem say.... That's adorable. Now when are you planning to get serious about your defense situation?

Average Moron stopped on the way to TxMoMe:

"Do you have any guns in the car?"

"Do you need an itemized list or is a rough guess good enough?"

Posted by: Oddbob at July 25, 2024 01:27 PM (/y8xj)

463 Yeah, and I did not vote for him in the 2016 primary...but I did in the main election b/c he was no Hillary, and that had to be enough. That was a hope vote, which is what Vance is gonna be.

Trump earned trust through 4 years of governing for an easy 2020 vote.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (exHjb)

Yes, and this was why I voted for Alfred E. Neuman in 2016. I was pilloried here for it, but sorry, I was not good with either candidate. Why did I vote Trump in 2020? His track record. What he did in office. His foreign policy left me pleasantly surprised. His going after SALT exemptions, and this forcing people to feel the true cost of government, was another pleasant surprise, and so on. I voted DeSantis in the primary, but as I said, if Trump gets the nomination, I vote for him no problem.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 01:28 PM (Nt9p1)

464 Coolidge was no longer President in October of 1929...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
=====
Who appointed most of the governors of the Fed board at that time? It was not Hoover but Harding and Coolidge.

For the most part, the old economists believed in burning all the rottenness out of the economy (see Andrew Mellon) was the way to recover and the way to end speculation was to raise interest rates and curb bank lending. Did not work and that is the problem sometimes---a truly laissez faire approach resulted in what were called panics before the Fed existed.

The severe contraction post WWI resulted from a collapse in foreign markets for the US and a domestic collapse in war demand from Uncle Sam. As the economy shifted back to more normality by ending war production, Harding benefitted over the Dems and it was relatively short lived. The Fed did nothing much during that crash.

But, post 1929, they did and they screwed the pooch. I happen to like Silent Cal and for the most part he was a decent president as Harding really was (apart from Albert Falls as Sec. of Interior). But neither Cal or Harding did anything to prevent the market crash of 29 from coming.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:28 PM (qdbNv)

465
"Do you have any guns in the car?"

"Do you need an itemized list or is a rough guess good enough?"
Posted by: Oddbob at July 25, 2024 01:27 PM (/y8xj)

“Why so many guns? Who are you afraid of?”

“Nobody.”

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 01:28 PM (Nt9p1)

466 Trump earned trust through 4 years of governing for an easy 2020 vote.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:23 PM (exHjb)

Ironic that you only criticize Vance for being skeptical of Trump like you were in 2016. His conservative positions have been consistent.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:29 PM (B1dzx)

467 Beg all the fuck you want.
She was two parents who WERE NOT citizens. In 1964.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:24 PM (t8fhO)

That’s nice.

Where was she born?

If in the U.S., jus soli. She’s a citizen.

The end.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 01:30 PM (Nt9p1)

468 >>>Then, the Fed screwed the pooch after Black October by raising interest rates and reserve requirements which froze normal credit markets which then affected Main Street businesses.
Posted by: whig
-------------------

Jackson was right.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2024 01:31 PM (B/d6U)

469 Plus I mean it's not like Trump's record of picking people is spotless. Skepticism is good.
Posted by: ...
=====
Always. Even Trump had his political expedient moments--cough bump stock ban where he ordered the ATF to do something becuz Vegas and the media drumbeat about bump stocks.

A statesman has the wisdom to choose when to be expedient on minor things (and yes, the bump stock ban was a minor thing relatively speaking versus a new AWB) and when to hold their ground on important issues of the day.

Politicians, by and large, represent who gives them power and money.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:32 PM (qdbNv)

470 No one needs a semi-ottoman that holds more than 10 fat naked dudes to kill a deer.

Posted by: Everytown for Communism at July 25, 2024 01:33 PM (Ybyk2)

471 Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:28 PM (qdbNv)

The Fed was there to back up the banks from failing and Hoover was advised not to intervene and allow them to fail. At least that’s the over simplistic summary of what Friedman wrote.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:34 PM (B1dzx)

472 {173} *throws things*

Just had another patient SWOONING over Kamala.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2024 12:48 PM (Xu8xw)


This was me screaming at the sky nine years ago when too many women (and some men) were idiotically swooning over how "dreamy" Justin Trudeau was...

*eye-twitch*

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 25, 2024 01:35 PM (O7YUW)

473 The fact that nobody in Homeland Security, FBI, and SS is speaking to anyone means that they are covering up and almost certainly involved. When it shows how good they are information flows like a geyser.

Even the most incompetent to sabotaged "defense" can't count on someone with a rife moseying up to the gap in the defenses. Therefore, they knew an assassin was coming.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:36 PM (eoQWY)

474 *eye-twitch*
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
--------------------

Here, I'll light that for you.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2024 01:37 PM (B/d6U)

475 This was me screaming at the sky nine years ago when too many women (and some men) were idiotically swooning over how "dreamy" Justin Trudeau was...

*eye-twitch*
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 25, 2024 01:35 PM (O7YUW)

Commies have to swoon over the dear Leader, it is more healthy that way.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:37 PM (eoQWY)

476 I'm curious why the media keeps running the picture of Crooks from middle school rather than more recent ones. A similar thing happened with pics of Trayvon Martin, although I understood why the media did that with Martin.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

I brought that up last week. Crooks was a Freshman and approx. 4-15 years old in the picture. Crooks was a 20 year old when this incident happened but no recent pictures within even the last year? The gaslighting continues.
Posted by: Cheri at July 25, 2024 12:34 PM (oiNtH)

School Yearbooks should be available for every year till senior, just a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:39 PM (eoQWY)

477 Jackson was right.
Posted by: Braenyard

Jackson was also fortunate enough not to be in office when his VP Martin van Buren inherited a severe economic contraction after the Second Bank of the US lost its charter in 1836 due to Jackson's veto. That probably cost van Buren reelection in 1840 along with definitely being a slippery political operative type from NY. Van Buren is more or less responsible for the mass party system in the US to get Jackson elected in 1828. Van Buren picked the majority faction in states to make deals with on federal patronage when Jackson was running which is in part why the spoils system originated.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:39 PM (qdbNv)

478 I call an opportunist when I see one. When he actually does something that might change that view, I'll let you know.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 25, 2024 01:13 PM (exHjb)


what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence

I am not saying you are wrong, I just want a reason to go along with you, or at least make up my own mind.
I will point out this also describes Kamalol to a "T", as well as quite a number of other politicians, some of whom we both have voted for.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:40 PM (D7oie)

479 My theory now is that it was Crooks' aim that resulted in multiple people in the crowd getting hit, and a 2nd experienced shooter who grazed Trump's ear with a missed headshot.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2024 12:53 PM (2xB3Z)

first shot was on, second and third were missed because Trump was following training and ducking, and the last five were frustrated hail marys like any first-person shooter gamer would do. You know, because you can respawn.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 12:56 PM (D7oie)

8 shots. Anyone on the countersniper team should be arrested and jailed. They had to have a stand down order.

And the one in all the pictures watching the guy for minutes took ZERO shots?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:42 PM (eoQWY)

480 When they let him within the perimeter, leave their position on the roof the shooter will use, take pictures of him, turn their backs and now know nothing.

Something's up.

Representative Eli Crane on the roof
https://tinyurl.com/yc7nmf4a

CBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVIh0uyhgrU

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2024 01:42 PM (B/d6U)

481 >>>it's not like Trump's record of picking people is spotless.

Very stable genius! 92% turnover, clearly a master of personnel. No wonder his company is mostly family and small potatoes.

Posted by: Deep State Coconut at July 25, 2024 01:45 PM (ygSr3)

482 The Fed was there to back up the banks from failing and Hoover was advised not to intervene and allow them to fail. At least that’s the over simplistic summary of what Friedman wrote.
Posted by: polynikes
==========
The Fed was created primarily as a way to finance the national government (happened after the severe downturn in Cleveland's second term where Cleveland and his Treasury secretary had to wait literally for whether JP Morgan would bail the national government out.

The original decentralized design of the Fed was more to stabilize the country's monetary system from a systemic collapse due to regional imbalances. Soon though, market operations and the reserve requirement by the Fed for member banks ended up making the New York branch first among equals due to NY city being a banking and finance hub. Power then flowed more to the NY branch and the Fed national board as a result during the 20's and the large international flows of capital due to WWI and its repercussions magnified their power.

Posted by: whig at July 25, 2024 01:46 PM (qdbNv)

483 I'm surprised that the Left would have a problem with couchf*cking.

I admit it seems tame in comparison, but it seems like the next logical sexual identity to add to the Alphabet soup after transers, kidf*ckers and animalf*ckers.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 25, 2024 01:47 PM (hB7mE)

484 I loved the stories he tells about her. Re: the 22 guns...he explained that as she was elderly and not moving around very well, she wanted guns within arms reach all over the house in case she needed one. A woman after my own heart.
Posted by: Cheri


Most people would just keep one or two on them.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (t8fhO)

I did the same thing with reading glasses, one by every chair.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:47 PM (eoQWY)

485 I did the same thing with reading glasses, one by every chair.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:47 PM (eoQWY)

Same here. Including Kitchen and bathrooms.

Posted by: polynikes at July 25, 2024 01:48 PM (B1dzx)

486 The fucking left is all reading from the same "our democracy" script.

It was simple. Crooks wanted to kill Trump. He did not have a thought about democracy.

Trump ought to be mocking the "our democracy" crowd in every utterance before a mic. It's their code word for single-party despotic rule, no justice for elites and their victim-class sycophants, trials and prison for you.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 25, 2024 01:49 PM (TJQqd)

487 I did the same thing with reading glasses, one by every chair.
Posted by: Oldcat
---------------------

Still do, and a couple of 400's for splinters.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2024 01:49 PM (B/d6U)

488 The Newsweek thing doesn't surprise me. For some reason the progs think it matters whether Trump was singed by a bullet or from shrapnel caused by a bullet and they want to see the medical records. Those records will not answer this question and none can tell us why it matters.

They're lost, and their parents should be very ashamed of them.
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (DWqKI)

There's nothing to hit from the direction of fire. The idiots think that because the camera is from the front, that's where the bullet came from so "glass from prompter" bull.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:50 PM (eoQWY)

489 I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:38

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2024 01:52 PM (dTTBf)

490 Trying to find other culprits other than Smoot Hawley is a Hobby of those who are passionately anti-freedom. Just like minimum wage proponents race to make excuses when minimum wage hikes cause layoffs and businesses to not hire.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (Nt9p1)


If it wasn't smoot-Hawley it would have been something else to trigger it, just saying that it was is like blaming a pebble for a landslide. They way the system had been leveraged to support economies in the depression following wwI, the massive dislocation of capital during and after the war, the political chaos everywhere as the victors played Napoleon with the world made it a disaster waiting to happen. If it hadn't been protective tariffs, (admittedly they were one of the sparks of the Civil war, too) it would have been Weimar reoccupation of Schleswig-Holstein or the Gran Chaco war.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:52 PM (D7oie)

491 This isn't the first time I've seen all sorts of references to what this kid supposedly had in his car/bike/mini-van.

What is the point of body armor in the car, along with extra ammo/mags?

And whatever happened to the storyline about explosives in a car and at his house and him having a detonator on the roof?

Typical clusterfuck dumbshit government coverrup.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 25, 2024 01:20 PM (/xDbx)

I keep hearing different stories about the car/bike/van ladder/no ladder/climbed the AC.

And all of these different stories have to be coming from the SS/FBI. So at this point I think they guided him in.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2024 01:54 PM (eoQWY)

492 Sooo...yeah Kamlalala was born here, to non-citizen parents that had over stayed their student visa's, then took off for Montreal for a decade, but were ALLOWED to file for citizenship and return because..."Anchor Baby"

Posted by: birdog at July 25, 2024 02:36 PM (lWs+l)

493 Fbee eyes say Crook flew a drone...do not say they found and recovered a drone.
Explosive devices were apparently commercial fireworks, in this case "Tools of Terror!" when used on the streets of DC and dozens of other cities, mainly targeted, fired at, or thrown at Police? "No charges filed" , no bail required, or Charges dismissed.

Posted by: birdog at July 25, 2024 02:54 PM (lWs+l)

494 So he left his body armor in the car? What the heck?

Posted by: GWB at July 25, 2024 02:58 PM (wEW5X)

495 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news /article-13642719/Thomas-Crooks- picture-trump-assassin-shooting.html

I get this - but it wasn't actually Van Buren's fault that Congress, split much like the US is now along the Whig vs Dems party lines, could not get consensus on how to reign in any executive expansion. Jackson was an executive branch expansionist - no doubt about it.

But Congress was the weak branch of government, then as now - they just took advantage of it.

Posted by: Boswell at July 25, 2024 03:12 PM (K+UlC)

496 If it wasn't smoot-Hawley it would have been something else to trigger it, just saying that it was is like blaming a pebble for a landslide. They way the system had been leveraged to support economies in the depression following wwI, the massive dislocation of capital during and after the war, the political chaos everywhere as the victors played Napoleon with the world made it a disaster waiting to happen. If it hadn't been protective tariffs, (admittedly they were one of the sparks of the Civil war, too) it would have been Weimar reoccupation of Schleswig-Holstein or the Gran Chaco war.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2024 01:52 PM (D7oie)

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. And most of those other things would have, like the Crash, triggered a deep recession. The destruction of the free trade regime in the 1930s caused a depression.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 25, 2024 03:33 PM (Nt9p1)

497 Now find out how he acquired 1.5 million in three overseas bank accounts.

Posted by: rechill at July 25, 2024 03:48 PM (Q1LXu)

498 The guy's 'manifesto' was the mainstream media and all the anti-Trump rhetoric.

Hidden in plain sight.

Posted by: jillyjilly at July 25, 2024 04:04 PM (oMMws)

499 Here comes the Gun Control Confiscation Freaks and that annoying little brat Hogg and his March for Our Lives jerks

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 25, 2024 04:29 PM (wGqjj)

500 Vance's best way of fighting this one is to lean right into it and shake it off. Something like "I did not have sex with any couch. It was a loveseat".
Posted by: .. at July 25, 2024 12:38 PM (v9JpZ)

"I've never had sex with any of Jill Biden's dresses."

Posted by: GWB at July 25, 2024 05:07 PM (7sBMQ)

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Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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