The Secret Service's Performance Was Worse Than We Suspected

Happy Preekend!

Inflexible Secret Service protocols, overworked special agents, and a decision against deploying more counter snipers to President Trump's rally in Pennsylvania all contributed to creating the opening for a gunman to wound Trump, kill a bystander, and seriously injure two others, according to several sources in the Secret Service community.

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Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi denied that Secret Services resources were diverted to the first lady's event from Trump's but declined to provide answers to several emailed questions about that charge and several other questions being raised about potential security lapses on Saturday.
"[T]his is very wrong," Guglielmi tweeted. "We did not divert resources from FPOTUS Trump, & protection models don't work that way."
Another factor, according to these sources within the Secret Service community, was that the agency was relying heavily on supplemental special agents (not Trump's regular team of special agents) and local law enforcement because many special agents in Trump's regular protective detail were overburdened and needed to take time off after working several consecutive seven-day weeks.
The site agent, who is in charge of putting all security measures for a particular event in place, was a relatively new agent from the Pittsburgh field office with limited experience, a Secret Service source told RCP.

"Trump has a permanent detail, however, it's much smaller in the number of bodies than the president's," the source explained. "His detail has been worked so hard with all the travel that they're working seven days a week with shift changes, so headquarters sends in temporary agents to supplement. Not a good scenario."

Apparently Trump is assigned no more Secret Service agents than ex-presidents like Clinton and Obama are -- despite the fact that he is the leading candidate to become president again, and has more threats against him than anyone else in the world.

This is not unusual for a former president to experience, but the threats against Trump, the only former president in modern political history to run again and one who has faced prosecutions and comparisons to Hitler from Democrats, are obviously greater than most ex-commanders in chief whose profiles have tended to decline after leaving public office.
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Trump allies, including his former acting DHS Director Chad Wolf, are also questioning whether the Secret Service is using similar resources that it would use for past presidents Obama or Bill Clinton, instead of a more robust protective detail.
"At the end of the day, this is a complete security failure," Wolf told Fox News Sunday afternoon. "Is it because of a lack of resources? They are using what they normally would for a former president, but President Trump is not a normal former president."
Secret Service officials in charge of the event provided only two counter-sniper officers when such an exposed outside rally would normally call for the use of two to three two-man teams, the source continued.

The Secret Service won't say if their sniper was greenlighted to take out the assassin, or who made that decision.

Which tells me that they did not greenlight the sniper, and they want to hide who was responsible for this. As usual.

"Did any member of the Secret Service or any other law enforcement member request permission to engage the shooter?" Ricketts asked in a letter obtained by RCP. "Were any such requests denied?"
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A source within the Secret Service community told RCP that the agency's rules of engagement in this situation are for a counter sniper who suspects an armed threat to radio the lead agent in charge and wait for a green light or wait until the president is fired upon to return fire.

Does that sound like BS to you? Well good, because it is:

But others suggested that that policy may apply only to the White House, and that counter snipers are allowed to fire upon armed targets threatening the president. Ricketts also demanded to know whether anyone within the Secret Service raised concerns prior to the rally about the building used by the shooter.

This rule may make sense at the White House. The White House is well-protected, and if someone is hanging out by the fence with a weapon, you can just tell the president to remain in interior rooms without windows. Or, if it's a serious threat, go to the bunker.

Point is, you don't have to kill someone who's at the White House fence. The chances they could hurt the president are very low.

But when the president is outdoors and the shooter is a Pass, Punt, and Kick away from the president? Then you do have to kill him.

But the Secret Service won't say what orders they gave. Because they were lethally-incompetent orders.

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One of the Secret Service sources told RCP that a paper trail likely exists about how many counter snipers and special agents the agency advance team, which plots out detailed security plans for events ahead of time, requested. The lead advance agent usually submits a manpower request to headquarters, which includes the number of counter snipers, post-standers, and magnetometers needed for a particular event.
"We always make sure that our requests are in writing so we would have a paper trail in case of the present scenario we have in Butler," the source said. But the same source complained that there was always "a do-more-with-less mentality."
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Warning signs about the Secret Service emerged months before the attempted assassination attempt against Trump. Earlier this year, the agency came under scrutiny for its diversity, equity, and inclusion policies after a female agent's apparent mental breakdown and physical attack on her superiors at Joint Base Andrews in April.

Crabtree also relays this: The Secret Service agents are fighting back against the claim that they were assigned to guard the roof, but abandoned their posts, because it was "too hot."

They say no one was ever assigned to guard the roof, period.

Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS SAY THEY DID NOT LEAVE THEIR POSTS BC IT WAS "HOT."
Local law enforcement sources dispute Sen. Hawley's charge that local police left their post at the building where shooter Thomas Crooks perched to fire off his shot. A Hawley-sourced report posted yesterday accused the local law enforcement officers of leaving their post at the AGR building because it was hot.

But local law enforcement officers say that's ridiculous -- that USSS never assigned them to the rooftop.
"The assignments received by the local Emergency Service Units (ESUs) were to be inside of the building at windows to begin with," said one officer. "The purpose of being in the building was to have a vantage point to scan for suspicious persons in the crowd. When a suspicious person was identified command was notified. That suspicious person ended up shooting Trump. No one was told they were supposed to be on the roof."
They also say their assignments are memorialized in writing so they have proof.

The House voted unanimously to impanel a task force to investigate the Secret Service's criminal incompetence.

This isn't over just because Cheatle was forced out, say Republicans.

Barely minutes elapsed between the breaking news that Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle had resigned in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and a leading lawmaker promising that her departure would have no impact on investigating the incident.
"There will be more accountability to come," House Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky, vowed in a statement. "While Director Cheatle's resignation is a step toward accountability, we need a full review of how these security failures happened so that we can prevent them going forward."

Politically, Cheatle was a uniter, not a divider -- at least in Congress, which has thrown itself behind investigating Trump's near-murder with unusual bipartisan fervor.

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Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson and Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries on Tuesday jointly announced the creation of a task force to investigate the "shocking" security failures, comprising seven Republicans and six Democrats.
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Johnson told reporters Cheatle's resignation was "overdue -- she should have done this at least a week ago." And, like Comer, he suggested she might not be the last Secret Service official to be held accountable.
"There may be others in the line of authority who were also culpable in what happened and the errors and mistakes there," Johnson said. "I think our task force's work just got even more important."

Crabtree makes still more news: The "site agent" responsible for spotting likely sniper's nests and lines of fire?

An "inexperienced woman."

Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
ON THE TOPIC OF DRONES AT TRUMP RALLIES: Sen. Josh Hawley now saying that a local law enforcement entity offered drones to Secret Service before the really, but the SECRET SERVICE declined.
As I reported in the 48 hours after the assassination attempt, the. use of drones has been controversial within the Secret Service dating back to at least 2016.
From a source within the Secret Service community: "If we need an overhead [i.e. a drone], we call GEO SPATIAL, and they send it to us," the source said. "If the location is important enough to have active drone flyovers, it's important enough to have the location posted."
Meaning, that there should have been someone assigned to the roof, and that building should have been included inside the official perimeter -- meaning it should have been manned by Secret Service counter-sniper teams, not local law enforcement.
The person making those decisions would have been the site lead, but there would have been other superiors signing off on it.
We know from my sources/reporting, the "site lead" inexperienced woman special agent from the Pittsburgh field office, but someone from the Pittsburgh field office would have had to sign off on all the security plan, including that key perimeter/AGR building decision -- Tim Burke is the SAIC in charge of the Pittsburgh field office -- but it was likely his deputy that walked the site and signed off on the plan that day, I'm told that deputy position likely would be an assistant special agent in charge of the Pittsburgh field office.

Instead of an "inexperienced woman" checking lines of fire, how about hiring a man? Not just any man -- how about a man who spent years in the military as a sniper and counter-sniper, who would therefore be able to look at a field and say, "If I were going to shoot someone, I'd hide myself right on that roof"?

Women do not serve as snipers in the military, ergo, it would be discrimination to require actual experience as a sniper or counter-sniper to serve as site agent.

So instead Buffy was tasked with giving the site a once-over and making her decisions based on "vibes."

🚨🚨BREAKING: Whistleblower tells @HawleyMO that local law enforcement partners offered drones to Secret Service before Butler, PA Trump rally. Secret Service DECLINED.

This comes after news that the shooter was flying his own drone around the site the day of the rally. pic.twitter.com/9XThBe7Txn
— Abigail Jackson 🇺🇸 (@abigailmarone) July 25, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:00 PM

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1 I NOODED

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 26, 2024 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

2 Hah! I was first AND I NOODED.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 26, 2024 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

3 Well slap my ass and call me Sally.

Posted by: wth at July 26, 2024 01:04 PM (v0R5T)

4 3 Well slap my ass and call me Sally.

Posted by: wth at July 26, 2024 01:04 PM (v0R5T)

Not my kink.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

5
Any relation to famous teacher Miss Crabtree?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (x0n13)

6 According to Bongino, Cheatle's replacement is actually worse.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (MeG8a)

7 6 According to Bongino, Cheatle's replacement is actually worse.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (MeG8a)

I wouldn't be surprised; no matter how bad, they can always find someone worse.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 26, 2024 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

8 Hard to believe the performed worse than I suspected since I suspected they were trying to kill the president without actually putting a gun to his head themselves.

And I do not rule out them doing that either.

Trump needs his own private security.

Posted by: Redbanzai at July 26, 2024 01:06 PM (RkSNw)

9 Trump gets the same number of SS agents as Obama or Clinton? Bullshit.

Posted by: davidt at July 26, 2024 01:07 PM (i0F8b)

10 Malicious incompetence.

Wonder if every agent assigned to Trump that day has a paper trail of donating to Democrars.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 26, 2024 01:07 PM (CW5Z7)

11 It seems to sound like the officer who was supposed to be on the roof had come down because it was hot up there and to look for a suspicious character (Crooks) seen near the building, whereupon Crooks used a ladder he brought with him to go up to an empty roof.
From there, I surmise that the rest of the security staff (drawn from multiple organizations) probably thought Crooks was the person assigned to cover the roof (explains why nobody got concerned that people were pointing to a guy on the roof and the reaction of the sharpshooter visible behind Trump) ... until he started shooting at the stage where Trump was speaking.

new video shows officer counting 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 5 casings near the body

Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

12 LIHOP

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (DTX3h)

13 LonnHourichi defense?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (CW5Z7)

14 It is amazing how the mistakes all drive events one way

Posted by: Jamaica at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (eTs4n)

15 So instead Buffy was tasked with giving the site a once-over and making her decisions based on "vibes."

it's called intuition, you sexist pig

*chugs chardonnay*

Posted by: Buffy at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (NGHTx)

16 Fedgov, including all law enforcement, has become nothing but a jobs program/pension provider.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (7PziG)

17 "Which tells me that they did not greenlight the sniper, and they want to hide who was responsible for this. As usual."

That would be the Agent in charge of the site. Period.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (D7oie)

18 The Secret Service is a shell of its former self. Remember the tell all book of the Clinton WH by a former agent and the hit job the MSM did on him?

And this was even before the South American whores stories.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:09 PM (B1dzx)

19 Would you please repeat the security deficiencies for Trump's
detail?

Posted by: Iran at July 26, 2024 01:09 PM (v3aCv)

20 So we can blame women, and there are women snipers by the way, or we can blame dumb people. Because I am a woman. I have never served in the military, I have never been a cop, and while I have been around a lot of guns, I am probably the least experienced with them on this site. With all of that, I promise you, I would know to secure roof tops. Why? Because I am not stupid.

Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (pZEOD)

21 There's this nebbish-looking old guy who sits on the corner around from my apartment selling "Biden-Harris" pins and bumper stickers, etc. He's got a big table set up festooned with "Vote Biden" campaign dogshit.

I know nothing about him, but given the location (upper west side) and his appearance I'd say he's a leftwing Jew. Possibly a homo. Maybe even probably a homo.

Anyway: yesterday I noticed that he had hastily covered up all the mentions of Biden and replaced them with Harris. He just covered them up. Total half-ass job.

I had to laugh. Last week, he was all in for Biden. Now he's all-in for the whore. If the whore drops out, he's all-in for whoever else it may be.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (iFTx/)

22 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

23 DIE almost got our President assassinated.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (N/G37)

24 wait until the president is fired upon
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LMAO I know literally nothing about anything, and even *I* know the "one free shot" rule is not how security has ever worked on any planet in any galaxy or for that matter on any level of the infinite multiverse. This is as lunatic as saying a man is a woman or that I am the Queen of England sometimes.

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (sztWj)

25 Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

My understanding is there was no ladder.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:11 PM (B1dzx)

26 The USSS didn't need more drones, they are fully staffed with them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 26, 2024 01:11 PM (CW5Z7)

27 That would be the Agent in charge of the site. Period.

She was on the rag? that might explain a lot.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:11 PM (v6JzV)

28 It is amazing how the mistakes all drive events one way
Posted by: Jamaica at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (eTs4n)

and that is odd, isn't it, it always seems to err in one direction only? Don't you think that is odd? I think that's odd.

since I have some experience in this, I can tell you why, you have idiots thinking there will be not problem with making the errors in one direction only, and failure as a way of making things better for your team. Firing is probably the main remedy there

Posted by: Kindltot at July 26, 2024 01:11 PM (D7oie)

29 According to Bongino, Cheatle's replacement is actually worse.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (MeG8a)

To be expected, especially if it's a Cheatle hire or protege.

Posted by: spindrift at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (OguvZ)

30 My local Buick/GMC dealer is offering $16,000 off MSRP on a GMC Crew Cab. To my 1970s way of thinking, that should mean the truck is free.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (J2vNu)

31 Add SS to the long list of alphabet agencies that have to be decimated and rebuilt (or, in the case of FIB, just shut down).

Posted by: Ex GOP at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (GpUII)

32 When a suspicious person was identified command was notified. That suspicious person ended up shooting Trump. No one was told they were supposed to be on the roof."

They also say their assignments are memorialized in writing so they have proof.

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Local law enforcement is probably being thrown under the bus by USSS but this guy’s defense of LE says the LE were at the windows overlooking the roof!!?!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (xt5tS)

33 The Secret Service hasn't been the same since they had to stand there and get yelled at for not carrying luggage fast enough by Naked Hillary.

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (sztWj)

34
Barely minutes elapsed between the breaking news that Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle had resigned in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and a leading lawmaker promising that her departure would have no impact on investigating the incident.

She should be tried, convicted and hanged for treason.

But, she resigned and will face NOTHING a-la Lois Lerner.

We're so incredibly f*cked, it's no longer entertaining.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

35 When you absolutely need your protectee not protected, we offer our C level detail.

Posted by: Secret Service at July 26, 2024 01:13 PM (v3aCv)

36 This all goes back to Cheatle. Cheatle micro managed the security arrangements and was also called for permission to engage the person who shot at PDT. Cheatle either didn't get the call, ignored the agent or dismissed any concerns presented by the inexperienced agent.

And you bet crossing Cheatle was worth your career.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:13 PM (tT6L1)

37 I liked Buffy as a Vampire Slayer, but as a Secret Service agent, she sucks...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 26, 2024 01:13 PM (TGPs7)

38 Of all the bullshit agencies and bureaus and grabasstic three-letter reacharounds in the swamp, the Secret Service is the one place where you don't get to make excuses.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:13 PM (BAEGB)

39 Happy Preekend!

Preekend is derived from the ancient Slobovian, 'pre' , meaning what one has previously been burdened with, and 'ekend', from the (middle) Latvian meaning a Venn diagram.

Colloquially, then this means 'throw out your old Venn diagrams because White Boys for Kamala is coming'.

Posted by: Candidus at July 26, 2024 01:14 PM (ykv4u)

40
Happy Preekend!

Preekness

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2024 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

41 She was on the rag? that might explain a lot.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:11 PM (v6JzV)

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LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (16NmB)

42 But, she resigned and will face NOTHING a-la Lois Lerner.

We're so incredibly f*cked, it's no longer entertaining.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

Buh... she had to get talked at!

... by MEN.

.... on TELEVISION!!!

Have you no empathy, sir?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (BAEGB)

43 Also, while I think some people on here go a bit over the top with the women can’t do jack taco except fold laundry, I am NOT one to say anything a man can do, we can do better. I am pretty strong / fairly fit for a female my age. But cheese and crackers, I am 5’1. I am not big enough to guard much of anyone, I am not carrying a full grown man out of a burning building, I am not taking down someone who grabs me from behind making me a liability and not an asset in any battle/ fight situation. The only thing I would be good at in this space is bait.

Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (pZEOD)

44 This is supposed to be a 'appy occasion. Let's not bicker about 'oo tried to kill 'oo…

Posted by: Tonypete at July 26, 2024 01:16 PM (5Seyi)

45 Women do not serve as snipers in the military

Well, we need to fix THAT toot suite, as soon as we get those MOH medals from 1890 revoked!

Posted by: Lloyd A. at July 26, 2024 01:16 PM (OsWVp)

46 43 The only thing I would be good at in this space is sharkbait.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (pZEOD)

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Sharkbait, hoo ha ha!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

47 The Secret Service announced new sniper protocols. Moving forward, agents are authorized to immediately shoot FPOTUS Trump if anyone threatens our sacred democracy.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 01:16 PM (+zNfy)

48 Any relation to famous teacher Miss Crabtree?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (x0n13)

GO AWAY! BATE'N!!!

Posted by: Alfalfa at July 26, 2024 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)

49 Pass, Punt and Kick.

Memories and several 2nd place trophies.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 26, 2024 01:17 PM (JkCto)

50 So Agent Diversity Barbie was the agent in charge?

And made the decision to:
1) not guard the roof
2) not cooperate with local law enforcement
3) forbid preemptive counter shots
4) assign Agent Dwarf and Agent Gunt to the protective detail
5) send all of Trump's regular detail to Pittsburgh

That's off the top of my head, how many more?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 26, 2024 01:17 PM (N/G37)

51 In civil law, there is no practical difference between gross negligence and intent. The decided to leave the roof unprotected, and they decided to send Trump out on the stage anyway.

I call that intent, but if you call that gross neglect, same thing. In either event, punitive measures are called for

Posted by: Ex GOP at July 26, 2024 01:17 PM (GpUII)

52 How do you jack a taco? That makes no sense.

Posted by: Kratwurst at July 26, 2024 01:17 PM (nIRE6)

53 The only thing I would be good at in this space is bait.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (pZEOD)

I don't know.

Flash a titty and wink, and Ree Tardy Oswald might have swooned over the edge and broke his bastarding neck.

You'd be a national hero.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:17 PM (BAEGB)

54 >>I think some people on here go a bit over the top with the women can’t do jack taco except fold laundry

I'd have to see your Sammich Skillz before I considered letting you fold my laundry.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (zKx9/)

55 25 My understanding is there was no ladder.

Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI

Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)

56 The only thing I would be good at in this space is bait.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (pZEOD)
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Give our thousand yard shooting club 6 months of your time and we'll probably have you able to hit a very small target at that distance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (tT6L1)

57 I’ve seen maybe two photos of the sniper and neither recently taken.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (B1dzx)

58 How much more do you need to see or hear before you conclude the unthinkable?

You're witnessing a massive cover up.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (bILdU)

59 The site commander was on the roof. She reported by radio it was too hot, left the roof (and probably her rifle), Crooks got on the roof, took the rifle and started shooting.

Nobody knows what to do, the site commander isn’t responding to calls and they see a body on the roof which could be her.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (xt5tS)

60 Also, while I think some people on here go a bit over the top with the women can’t do jack taco except fold laundry
Posted by: Piper

I'm pretty sure everyone here thinks that they can make sandwiches, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (v6JzV)

61 The more that comes out, the more convinced I am that my initial reaction to this was correct: this was an intentional plot by SS and other Deep State rats to murder their chief political rival.

There's no other way to explain it. Even a race of supernaturally stupid and incompetent deaf, dumb, and blind aliens with IQs below 75 would do a better job than SS did.

Incredibly, the most lunatic leftists actually agree. All those morons screaming "it was staged by Trump" are looking at the same evidence we are, and saying "There's no way mere stupidity or incompetence can explain this. It must have been planned." They just disagree on who planned it. But they aren't wrong that it was planned.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 26, 2024 01:19 PM (iFTx/)

62 This whole cluster**k was a travesty of a mockery of a sham. The more layers you peel back the more slimy nasty crap emerges. All of them should be fired.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2024 01:19 PM (9Lk6I)

63 The only thing I would be good at in this space is bait.

As easy as that may sound, it's not something just anyone can master.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 26, 2024 01:19 PM (OsWVp)

64 60 I'm pretty sure everyone here thinks that they can make sandwiches, too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (v6JzV)

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Ugh. Carbs.

Soft boiled eggs (3), baked chicken, steamed broccoli, cup of peanuts.

Gotta get swol.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

65 Has the agent in charge been named? How do we know he or she is a Buffy?

Posted by: Ex GOP at July 26, 2024 01:20 PM (GpUII)

66 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)

Receipt but no ladder. He climbed up the ac system.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:20 PM (B1dzx)

67 "His detail has been worked so hard with all the travel that they're working seven days a week with shift changes, so headquarters sends in temporary agents to supplement. Not a good scenario."

Have I missed all the commentary about being unable to keep up with Trump's schedule... because he's so active? Are those only used to cover to the dead and infirm?

Posted by: Inogame at July 26, 2024 01:20 PM (53oGX)

68 Suboptimal results, again.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 26, 2024 01:20 PM (rJ48h)

69 67 "His detail has been worked so hard with all the travel that they're working seven days a week with shift changes, so headquarters sends in temporary agents to supplement. Not a good scenario."

Have I missed all the commentary about being unable to keep up with Trump's schedule... because he's so active? Are those only used to cover to the dead and infirm?
Posted by: Inogame at July 26, 2024 01:20 PM (53oGX)

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Also...he'd been at home for a couple of weeks. This line has never made a whole lot of sense to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

70 Director PepsiCop assigned Agent Diversity Barbie to protect the most hated man in America?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (N/G37)

71 >>The more that comes out, the more convinced I am that my initial reaction to this was correct: this was an intentional plot by SS and other Deep State rats to murder their chief political rival.

They wanted a bit more than that.

The CIA leak re. Iran indicates they had another War planned.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (zKx9/)

72 The assassin fire at least eight aimed rounds from his rifle. Wray, in his testimony, said the assassin "probably" had a rifle scop attached to his weapon. We were told that 50 cartridges were purchased with 24 hours of the shooting, but there's no confirmation I've read that ammunition from that purchase matched the cartridge casings found on or near the roof. The assassin also purchased a 5'5" ladder around the same time as the ammo, but does that description match the ladder found at the shooting site?

Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (rj6Yv)

73 54 I'd have to see your Sammich Skillz before I considered letting you fold my laundry.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024

I am the mama of 3. I can do this with my eyes closed standing on one foot.

Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (pZEOD)

74 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD

Farcebook Marketplace:

For sale: one 12 foot ladder. Used only once. $20, same as in town. Cash only no lowball offers - I know what I have. Pick up only - Butler Fairgrounds.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (5Seyi)

75 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)

Whoa - its almost like he expected to submit the invoice in a DD 1155 - government reimbursement for expenditures.

Posted by: Boswell at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (K+UlC)

76 This DEI shit has GOT to go.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

77 There is a place for women agents. We just need competent ones.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (xjTDL)

78 I'm pretty sure everyone here thinks that they can make sandwiches, too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (v6JzV)
----------
Hey, it took until me to think them up.

Posted by: Gerald, Earl Sandwich at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (3Fz6p)

79 The ROE should be

if you see someone taking aim at a target: green light

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (/7KEl)

80 The CIA leak re. Iran indicates they had another War planned.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (zKx9/)

Chinese National...RAWWWWK!

Posted by: Warai-otoko wants a cracker at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (BAEGB)

81 Vice President Kamala Harris, who was tapped to lead the administration’s rural broadband expansion, "Internet For All", failed to connect one person with high-speed internet despite having $42.5 billion from the so-called infrastructure bill.

Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (RHGPo)

82 At this point, I wouldn't trust USSS to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.

Posted by: pookysgirl at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (dtlDP)

83 Women do not serve as snipers in the military, ergo, it would be discrimination to require actual experience as a sniper or counter-sniper to serve as site agent.

So instead Buffy was tasked with giving the site a once-over and making her decisions based on "vibes."

Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (+Wnnh)

84 67 "His detail has been worked so hard with all the travel that they're working seven days a week with shift changes, so headquarters sends in temporary agents to supplement. Not a good scenario."

Have I missed all the commentary about being unable to keep up with Trump's schedule... because he's so active? Are those only used to cover to the dead and infirm?
Posted by: Inogame at July 26, 2024 01:20 PM (53oGX)

———-

Probably 2/3 of Trump’s travel activity this year was in response to the lawfare.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (xt5tS)

85 I've been thinking about drones lately. I'm kind of surprised that someone hasn't tried to take out a public figure with a drone equipped like a bomb, a la Ukraine. It's the obvious way to bypass security, and also allows the would be assassin the opportunity to escape, assuming they're interested in such.

I don't know what techniques, if any, the SS uses to foil such attempts, but it seems like that's a gaping security hole.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (xCA6C)

86 If there was supposed to be an agent on the roof I can understand why the other snipers were hesitant in taking a shot without approval.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (B1dzx)

87 I'm going to take my victory lap, by the way. Though, it's not much of a victory, being as a husband and father was killed.

I said at the outset it was probably due to a small team of agents that were overworked.

Though, didn't really take a genius to see that one coming. Heck, dial a psychic could have foreseen that future.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (tT6L1)

88 60 I'm pretty sure everyone here thinks that they can make sandwiches, too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (v6JzV)

Well I can, but y’all don’t like the way I eat, either. There is no making y’all happy.

Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (pZEOD)

89 >> Vice President Kamala Harris, who was tapped to lead the administration’s rural broadband expansion, "Internet For All", failed to connect one person with high-speed internet despite having $42.5 billion from the so-called infrastructure bill.

Taht scam has been ongoing since Obama.

He dropped Billions not bringing High-Speed Internet to Rural Americans.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (zKx9/)

90 There is a place for women agents. We just need competent ones.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Kitchen duty making the men agents sammiches!

/jk

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:24 PM (+Wnnh)

91 "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt. That's the first thing they teach you."

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 26, 2024 01:24 PM (JcnCJ)

92 If there was supposed to be an agent on the roof I can understand why the other snipers were hesitant in taking a shot without approval.
Posted by: polynikes

Long hair and shorts should have been a clue.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (+Wnnh)

93 No, actually we have a woman candidate for President. Assign them to be her detail.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (xjTDL)

94 The FBI, SS, and DHS aren't totally stonewalling 13 days later because they did everything right. Or did most things right. Agencies go into maximum stonewall silence mode for weeks on end when they did everything wrong. They can only get away with it when their higher-highers want such a stonewall.

Posted by: Gref at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (5fDan)

95 Wolfus, there's a reason F 150s outsell GMC trucks.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (+zNfy)

96 >>> 20 So we can blame women, and there are women snipers by the way, or we can blame dumb people. Because I am a woman. I have never served in the military, I have never been a cop, and while I have been around a lot of guns, I am probably the least experienced with them on this site. With all of that, I promise you, I would know to secure roof tops. Why? Because I am not stupid.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (pZEOD)

You're not stupid, you're a Moron!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (FnneF)

97 I'm starting to believe that Tom Clancy was a long game psy-op to try and get right leaning people thinking the government was competent.

Posted by: Blanco at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (NNdyk)

98 So we can blame women, and there are women snipers by the way, or we can blame dumb people. Because I am a woman. I have never served in the military, I have never been a cop, and while I have been around a lot of guns, I am probably the least experienced with them on this site. With all of that, I promise you, I would know to secure roof tops. Why? Because I am not stupid.

Okay, if you're going to be silly and ask for the moon, I don't want to talk to you.

Posted by: SS Hiring Manager at July 26, 2024 01:26 PM (xCA6C)

99 And I'd like to hear more about the FBI's "hypothesis" that when the assassin flew his drone just hours before the rally, he "livestreamed' the drone camera's footage. Was the livestreaming restricted to his phone/tablet, or was it also streamed to a private streaming service?

Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:26 PM (rj6Yv)

100 ... From there, I surmise that the rest of the security staff (drawn from multiple organizations) probably thought Crooks was the person assigned to cover the roof (explains why nobody got concerned that people were pointing to a guy on the roof and the reaction of the sharpshooter visible behind Trump) ... until he started shooting at the stage where Trump was speaking.

new video shows officer counting 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 5 casings near the body
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

From anything I've seen, Crooks "bear crawled" his way up to the peak of the roof. I'm not sure what that means, but any picture I've seen shows him kind of slithering up on his belly. If he was with law enforcement, he would have just been walking around upright.

That's not to say the mistake might not have been made - I'm just saying that IF it was made, it wasn't made by anybody actually looking at him. Besides his positioning, he also had long hair, and no uniform - just some sort of T-shirt. Nobody LOOKING at him would mistake him for law enforcement.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 01:26 PM (hOOi9)

101 They did screw up. They were supposed to get him killed.

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:26 PM (sztWj)

102 I've been thinking about drones lately. I'm kind of surprised that someone hasn't tried to take out a public figure with a drone equipped like a bomb, a la Ukraine. It's the obvious way to bypass security, and also allows the would be assassin the opportunity to escape, assuming they're interested in such.

I don't know what techniques, if any, the SS uses to foil such attempts, but it seems like that's a gaping security hole.
Posted by: Archimedes

They probably scramble the frequency they are on.
When a drone loses signal, it returns to where it took off from. Oops.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:26 PM (+Wnnh)

103 Any relation to famous teacher Miss Crabtree?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Miss Crabtree might have been the very last acting job that former starlet June Marlowe ever took. She got married to a businessman in 1933 and never looked back at Hollywood.

Posted by: Zombie Jackie Cooper at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (CV8a5)

104 Well I can, but y’all don’t like the way I eat, either. There is no making y’all happy.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM

This is not true. Y'all's comments are a plus, and contribute to our* happiness alot.

* does not include those who's cynicism is disproportionate to their age.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (OsWVp)

105 Wray, in his testimony, said the assassin "probably" had a rifle scop attached to his weapon.
______

Probably? What does it say on your business card besides your name? Federal Bureau of Investigation, does it say? Are you aware of what the word Investigation means?

Posted by: Sen Kennedy folksy buy ultimately useless at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (XPGKL)

106 The Secret Service cares as much about protecting Trump as Orkin cares about protecting centipedes when called in to get rid of roaches.
To this blob of USG agencies, the prime threat is Trump. Not Islamic terrorists, not antifa, not plain crazed lunatics like Loughner. The threat is to their rice bowls and Fairfax-County contacts.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (gKWVE)

107 101 They did screw up. They were supposed to get him killed.
Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:26 PM (sztWj)

I'm starting to believe that

Posted by: It's me donna at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (IyPmt)

108 The Secret Service couldn't keep up with Trump? Sounds about right. The man has big wallet energy.

Posted by: fd at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (ArbhN)

109 94 Wolfus, there's a reason F 150s outsell GMC trucks.

george soros?

Posted by: anachronda at July 26, 2024 01:27 PM (oY6Yp)

110 With all of that, I promise you, I would know to secure roof tops. Why? Because I am not stupid.

Oh sure, you with your "not stupid" privilege? Do you realize how that makes us feeeeel?
-- DEI agents

Posted by: Oddbob at July 26, 2024 01:28 PM (/y8xj)

111 >>> But others suggested that that policy may apply only to the White House, and that counter snipers are allowed to fire upon armed targets threatening the president

No Shit Sherlock !

At least on paper in every jurisdiction in the US a LEO can shoot first if someone threatens a third party with lethal force. In most jurisdictions non-LEOs may do so too.

///
The more they drag out this shiite the more sure I am that the was a gov conspiracy.
Of not, certain agencies and departments are irredeemable and must be dissolved.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 26, 2024 01:28 PM (m6NVp)

112 96 You're not stupid, you're a Moron!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26

I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.

Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:28 PM (pZEOD)

113 There must be fit, athletic, and competent SS agents who are women. Right? So if SS wants to have the optics of women covering a high-value target, then why weren't these competent female agents chosen to guard Trump?

Why were chubby, short, middle-aged, unattractive, uncoordinated stumblebums chosen instead? It had to be deliberate. See my comment above about them wanting Trump dead.

Or alternatively, maybe the SS wanted to deny Trump the optics of being guarded by tall, fit, attractive Amazon-ish women. That would look too good for Trump. So they sent in the 2 am punch-bowl brigade.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 26, 2024 01:28 PM (iFTx/)

114 I have never served in the military, I have never been a cop, and while I have been around a lot of guns, I am probably the least experienced with them on this site.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:10 PM (pZEOD)

Most men: "Now if you were also drunk - you'd be my kind of woman."

Posted by: Boswell at July 26, 2024 01:28 PM (K+UlC)

115 I'm starting to think Biden's dogs were on to something

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (s3qiR)

116 If there was supposed to be an agent on the roof I can understand why the other snipers were hesitant in taking a shot without approval.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (B1dzx)

AND they thought it was "casual Friday"?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (m6NVp)

117 Lindsey Graham demands FBI's Christopher Wray recant testimony, says it's 'clear' Trump was hit with bullet
GOP Sen Lindsey Graham says it's 'clear to everyone' Trump survived an assassination attempt

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (/7KEl)

118 You do not have to have experience as a sniper to recognize that roof as a problem.

Anyone of slightly above average intelligence who has played at least one FPS video game can tell you exactly where the problem points are going to be based on a few minutes of examination of an overhead view of the site.

It's not rocket science.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (7fElN)

119 Jack Poso
@JackPosobiec
Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible "no" when she tried to get stern on a ceasefire by October, she got visibly nervous and just laughed back, awkwardly

-
Well, I'm feeling more secure already.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (L/fGl)

120 I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:28 PM

Concur.

Posted by: Paul Anka at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (OsWVp)

121 They probably scramble the frequency they are on.
When a drone loses signal, it returns to where it took off from. Oops.

But if, as reported, the shooter had flown a drone over the area before Trump spoke, it would be a relatively simple matter to have it follow a preprogrammed path to the podium, while ignoring any extraneous signals, i.e. an autonomous drone. It's coming, if it isn't already here.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (xCA6C)

122 I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.
Posted by: Piper

Well, we do have our orange Trump-cult robes and fezzes.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (v6JzV)

123 Man, I'm getting a stupid amount of headlines all pushing the phony bullshit that, any day now, Trump is going to drop Vance.
They think they can speak that into reality if they wish hard enough.

And not just the hard left, but every NeverTrump that they can find is getting quoted.
They are really, really butthurt that Trump didn't go with their decades-long formula for failure: Pick a moderate VP.

If there is one thing that would guarantee a Trump loss, it's dumping Vance.
Which is why they are pushing it so hard.
The same FUD spreaders that swore-- even swaying many here-- that Trump was going to pick Nikki.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (N/G37)

124 107 101 They did screw up. They were supposed to get him killed.

IT COULD NOT BE MORE OBVIOUS

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (s3qiR)

125 >>> 82 At this point, I wouldn't trust USSS to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
Posted by: pookysgirl at July 26, 2024 01:22 PM (dtlDP)

"piss"

My dad would replace it with "sand" until... maybe by the time I was in college.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (FnneF)

126
LOL he had his ladder receipt on him?

What, so that we didn't think it was supplied to him by Acme Bricks, Pallets, and Ladders Inc?

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (sztWj)

127 Bongino claimed today, from an inside whistleblower source at the Secret Cervix, that many of Trump's rallies had no Secret Service Counter-Sniper Teams (even if there were local LEO Counter-Sniper Teams because ...

...WAIT FOR IT ...

... the rallies we're not within driving distance of The Swamp.

[You literally can't make this shit up ...]

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (+ZdIS)

128 Much like the turmoil the left went into when Trump beat Hillary, they're in similar turmoil now since the kid they groomed to murder Trump failed.

NONE of this would be happening if he was killed that day.

I would even venture a guess that they would 'postpone' the election because of it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

129 Someone must have recorded this Zoom meeting. These are the "childless, cat ladies JD Vance was referring to."

x.com/ENBrown/status/1816637549328130399
Elizabeth Nolan Brown
@ENBrown·16h
Only caught a few minutes of the ‘white ladies for Harris’ call before the Zoom cut out but it is basically everything you imagined it could be
·16h
There is privilege talk, obviously. And mentions of witches and collective power. And this being like a group therapy session, which is… telling
·16h
Glennan Doyle’s talk premised on the idea that white women want to speak up for Harris but don’t bc they’re raised to please. It’s more of the weird idea
@katrosenfield talked about today, that no one need convincing. As if it’s all just about enough white ladies self actualizing
·15h
“Karens for Kamala,” Connie Britton jokes
·15h
OK, I’m here for Gillibrand talking about drinking toad venom with Connie Britton

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (9aVck)

130 Slightly OT:
Fuck Chrissy Wray. It's funny. The FIB can never seem to comment on anything. You know, "Ongoing investigation" Etc. etc. Yet that piece of shit felt no compunction on saying what hit Trump.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (ewjUl)

131
Well, we do have our orange Trump-cult robes and fezzes.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (v6JzV)

What ! We're not wearing Our white robes now ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (IyPmt)

132 If there was supposed to be an agent on the roof I can understand why the other snipers were hesitant in taking a shot without approval.
Posted by: polynikes

Long hair and shorts should have been a clue.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (+Wnnh)

And pointing his rifle at the former president for several minutes might have given them an inkling of a possible risk.

Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (rj6Yv)

133 I think that Buffy-the Vampire slayer- would do a better job than most of these clownish women on the SS.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (dTTBf)

134 I'm starting to believe that Tom Clancy was a long game psy-op to try and get right leaning people thinking the government was competent.

They were mostly competent prior to DEI and TDS. Or if they actually want to protect the protectee.

However, re-reading Clancy now requires about a thousand times more suspension of disbelief.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (yOPBE)

135 >>Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible "no" when she tried to get stern on a ceasefire by October, she got visibly nervous and just laughed back, awkwardly

'If you sign the Ceasefire, I'll suck your dick.'

Posted by: Kamala Harris at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM (zKx9/)

136 " I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.
Posted by: Piper"

Codeword: Kaboom

Posted by: fd at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM (ArbhN)

137 Wray, in his testimony, said the assassin "probably" had a rifle scop attached to his weapon.
------------
YOU HAVE! THE FUCKING! WEAPON! YOU CAN'T TELL WHETHER IT HAD A SCOPE OR NOT!!!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM (3Fz6p)

138 One of the keys to this smart military blog is it's balance. We have Fen, who tries to bring goodness, Piper with her Up With People attitude, MP4 with the unending doom, and hard-boiled cases Like CBD.

Even Steven.

Posted by: On Borrowed Time at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM (CV8a5)

139 @JackPosobiec
Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible "no" when she tried to get stern on a ceasefire by October, she got visibly nervous and just laughed back, awkwardly

The best the Democrats have to offer, ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

140 72 The assassin fire at least eight aimed rounds from his rifle. Wray, in his testimony, said the assassin "probably" had a rifle scop attached to his weapon. We were told that 50 cartridges were purchased with 24 hours of the shooting, but there's no confirmation I've read that ammunition from that purchase matched the cartridge casings found on or near the roof. The assassin also purchased a 5'5" ladder around the same time as the ammo, but does that description match the ladder found at the shooting site?
Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (rj6Yv)

————

You know something is up when they won’t even show a photo of the weapon. Wray was extremely loose in his testimony related to the gun. One asked him about the ballistic matching, “oh ATF handles that” as if he was talking about passing the mash potatoes around at dinner. Not to mention I’m sure the FBI has its own labs for weapon testing. Ultimately he didn’t answer the question. So no confirmation that the shells matched matches the weapon.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (xt5tS)

141 YouTube- Chad Prather.

Two elite snipers analyze Trump Assassination Attempt

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (+Wnnh)

142 Any relation to famous teacher Miss Crabtree?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (x0n13)

Wasn't Darrin and Samantha's nosey neighbor Mrs. Crabtree or Crabapple too?

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (JCLJi)

143 Glennan Doyle’s talk premised on the idea that white women want to speak up for Harris but don’t bc they’re raised to please. It’s more of the weird idea
@katrosenfield talked about today, that no one need convincing. As if it’s all just about enough white ladies self actualizing
·15h
“Karens for Kamala,” Connie Britton jokes
·15h
OK, I’m here for Gillibrand talking about drinking toad venom with Connie Britton
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (9aVck)
------------------

"Karen's for Kamala" in 3,2,1......

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (tT6L1)

144 What happened to everybody wearing a particular uniform so as not to be mistaken for a perp

those jackets or vests with POLICE or FBI in big letters

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (/7KEl)

145 There must be fit, athletic, and competent SS agents who are women. Right?

this is the government we're talking about

Posted by: brak at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (NGHTx)

146 128 Much like the turmoil the left went into when Trump beat Hillary, they're in similar turmoil now since the kid they groomed to murder Trump failed.

yes they are flailing a bit now

not enough tho

the right needs to keep at them

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (s3qiR)

147 >>I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.

When you see the Ewok wearing a crop top and carrying a Messenger Bag, roll up on the Vespa...you will know it is Ace.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (zKx9/)

148 Yes, tell us feeble fat old demented Orange Man outpaces an entire agency of trained killers on a daily basis, before you tell us how feeble and fat and old and demented he is.

Tell us that while you spin like a Speed Queen someone threw a cinder block into.

Fucking hell, i think half the cretins on DU must work in DC offices with leather chairs and have "Director" in their job title.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (BAEGB)

149 Seriously if the ladder receipt thing is true, that might be the most suspicious part of this whole operation... I mean event... EVENT!!!!

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (sztWj)

150 Wasn't Darrin and Samantha's nosey neighbor Mrs. Crabtree or Crabapple too?
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question

Gladys Kravitz

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (v6JzV)

151 YOU HAVE! THE FUCKING! WEAPON! YOU CAN'T TELL WHETHER IT HAD A SCOPE OR NOT!!!

right but that's just the patsy's weapon

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (s3qiR)

152 Well, we do have our orange Trump-cult robes and fezzes.

OMMMMM
OMMMMM
OMMMMMGGGGGGG
OMG, it's Trumppppp

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (xCA6C)

153 >>> 117 Lindsey Graham demands FBI's Christopher Wray recant testimony, says it's 'clear' Trump was hit with bullet
GOP Sen Lindsey Graham says it's 'clear to everyone' Trump survived an assassination attempt
Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (/7KEl)

Is he up for re-election this year?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (FnneF)

154 Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible "no" when she tried to get stern on a ceasefire by October, she got visibly nervous and just laughed back, awkwardly

The Giggler.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (+Wnnh)

155 The Guys Get Shirts.

Everybody wears the Shirt. No confusions.

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (/7KEl)

156 153 >>> 117 Lindsey Graham demands FBI's Christopher Wray recant testimony, says it's 'clear' Trump was hit with bullet
GOP Sen Lindsey Graham says it's 'clear to everyone' Trump survived an assassination attempt
Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (/7KEl)

Is he up for re-election this year?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (FnneF)

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No. 2026.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

157 Wasn't Darrin and Samantha's nosey neighbor Mrs. Crabtree or Crabapple too?
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM

Mrs. Kravtz?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (ewjUl)

158 Any progress on buying, rehabbing the tramp steamer to escape on when the SHTF? An old Liberty ship could fit the bill. When you're on a cruise to nowhere, 11 knots is plenty fast enough.

Posted by: Navel Gazer at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (CV8a5)

159 The USSS needs to go on an integrity kick.

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (/7KEl)

160 Not even Bibi will position her for success.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (Y8lzz)

161 They wanted either Rubio or Burgum for VP. The last person the RINOs wanted to see was Vance.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (xjTDL)

162 There must be fit, athletic, and competent SS agents who are women. Right?

Big boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:34 PM (v6JzV)

163 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)
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That is a pretty odd detail. Who keeps those receipts? A 20-year-old kid sure wouldn't.

I only keep them long enough to record them into my monthly balance sheet. Then I let the kitties play with them...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (7fElN)

164 19 Would you please repeat the security deficiencies for Trump's detail?
Posted by: Iran at July 26, 2024 01:09 PM (v3aCv)

Maybe that's the plan, get Hezbollah so worn out listing all that's wrong with America's security that they don't have time to plan anything.
"What, we can just walk up, climb a ladder, and hang out on a slightly hot sloped roof? We're Persians, we *live* on hot mountains. It can't be that easy. Go through that list again"

Posted by: gKWVE at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (gKWVE)

165 >>> 128 Much like the turmoil the left went into when Trump beat Hillary, they're in similar turmoil now since the kid they groomed to murder Trump failed.

NONE of this would be happening if he was killed that day.

I would even venture a guess that they would 'postpone' the election because of it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

I wouldn't be all that surprised if they try that anyway. Zelensky got away with it, why can't they.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (FnneF)

166 If you sign the Ceasefire, I'll suck your dick.'
Posted by: Kamala Harris at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM (zKx9/)

"Just kidding, I'll do it for nothing."

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (sztWj)

167 I say it was Miss Scarlet in the kitchen with the candlestick!

(I just wanted to get in on all the AoS conspiracy theory posts.)

Posted by: mnw at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (NLIak)

168 163 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)
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That is a pretty odd detail. Who keeps those receipts? A 20-year-old kid sure wouldn't.

I only keep them long enough to record them into my monthly balance sheet. Then I let the kitties play with them...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (7fElN)

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Maybe he just left it in the car when he first bought it. I dunno. I've been known to just drop a receipt into the space beneath the middle dash and leave it there for a few weeks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

169 How do you jack a taco? That makes no sense.
Posted by: Kratwurst at July 26, 2024

***
Slide a fork under the taco to act as a lever, and press down

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (J2vNu)

170 Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible "no" when she tried to get stern on a ceasefire by October, she got visibly nervous and just laughed back, awkwardly

so you're saying he rejected her bossiness, mansplained with a "no" and her internalized sexism forced her to laugh in response for fear of rejection by our patriarchal society?

Posted by: MSM at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (NGHTx)

171 " I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.
Posted by: Piper"

Codeword: Kaboom
Posted by: fd

Tennis Wrist Sweat Band with an embroidered T or AoS.

(for Trump or the HQ)

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (+Wnnh)

172 Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible "no" when she tried to get stern on a ceasefire by October, she got visibly nervous and just laughed back, awkwardly

She's accustomed to libtard "men", who kiss her ass after every ejaculation from her mouth.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (xCA6C)

173 One of the keys to this smart military blog is it's balance. We have Fen, who tries to bring goodness, Piper with her Up With People attitude, MP4 with the unending doom, and hard-boiled cases Like CBD.

Even Steven.
Posted by: On Borrowed Time at July 26, 2024 01:31 PM

I do try to contribute a certain caution against excessive emotional exuberance from time to time.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (OsWVp)

174 "Why does Steve get to wear shorts today? And why is his hair so long? And why is he pointing his rifle at the asset?"

"We're not paid to ask questions, Bill."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (BAEGB)

175 Abbott and Costello had a nosy neighbor Mrs. Crumbcake. Lou went on trial for perforating her galvanized bucket.

Posted by: Hillary Brooke at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (CV8a5)

176 Listening to Bongino this morning he put the offer out to consult on security for Trump. I am going to predict that Trump does bring in a private security element. Now I am going to pick on an ette. I will preface it with ,like all of the ettes here, you are a sweetheart and I greatly appreciate your presence here. In regards to the ability to protect Trump, in the context of event security, the SS or the US Marshalls do not have any special rules which allow them to use deadly force that a private team would not have. Whether Fed or private, they are held to protocols whose foundation is codified.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:36 PM (GVv8N)

177 He was obviously planning to return the ladder when he was done. Every penny counts.

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (sztWj)

178 ...
new video shows officer counting 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 5 casings near the body
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

I'd be interested to see that video.

It seems very clear to me right now that the first three shots occurred within about two seconds, and were all from the 20-yr-old shooter.

The first shot is the one that hit Trump, and apparently it went on to injure someone else too, further away from the shooter than Trump. I'd guess the next shot was in the same basic direction, hitting the guy next to the first spectator hit. By the third shot, Trump was ducking down. The shooter apparently aimed lower because of that, and hit the retired fireman, who was closer to the shooter than Trump.

All the victims were along a straight line that leads straight beck to where the shooter was positioned. So a decent theory that there would have been a second shooter, who was a pro sniper, isn't supported by the facts.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (hOOi9)

179 >>so you're saying he rejected her bossiness, mansplained with a "no" and her internalized sexism forced her to laugh in response for fear of rejection by our patriarchal society?

She instinctively retreated to the kitchen to bake his favorite dessert.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (zKx9/)

180 Kemela appeals to exactly two groups:
1) Party insiders.
2) those voters who wore pearls last inauguration day.

As to #2, if you have any of those in your life, they are overwhelmingly:
Insufferable matched only by their entitlement only outstripped by their lack of actual accomplishments.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (N/G37)

181 >>This DEI shit has GOT to go.

Whaaaa?

Every police procedural series I've watched over the last few years on the streaming services has Girlbosses in all the positions of command.

They are highly-intelligent, no-nonsense, tough-as-nails decision-makers who thrive under the pressures of the moment. And the lowly male subordinates are all in awe of their girlboss' command presence.

Posted by: bed head at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (Y1sOo)

182 Wasn't Darrin and Samantha's nosey neighbor Mrs. Crabtree or Crabapple too?
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM
*
Mrs. Kravtz?
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 26, 2024

***
Gladys Kravitz. Her long-suffering husband was Abner.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (J2vNu)

183 I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.

Hat, bow tie and no pants like Yogi Bear.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM (/y8xj)

184 So instead Buffy was tasked with giving the site a once-over and making her decisions based on "vibes."
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This was a very emotional time for me. My shoes were all wrong. My cats were upset I was gone all day. I ran out of granola. My gun just doesn't look right. The other agents were mean to me.

Posted by: Buffy from Pittsburgh at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM (YIGq2)

185 180 Kemela appeals to exactly two groups:
1) Party insiders.
2) those voters who wore pearls last inauguration day.

As to #2, if you have any of those in your life, they are overwhelmingly:
Insufferable matched only by their entitlement only outstripped by their lack of actual accomplishments.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 26, 2024 01:37 PM (N/G37)

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So, partisans. She appeals to partisans because she's as close as they can get to Generic Democrat considering the situation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

186 Those who think the jews will support Trump need only wander into Seth Mandel's twitter feed. The dude is balls deep into Kamala. He and Bethany must not talk politics at home.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM (d9LQi)

187 Long hair and shorts should have been a clue.
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 01:25 PM (+Wnnh)

And pointing his rifle at the former president for several minutes might have given them an inkling of a possible risk.
Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:30 PM (rj6Yv)

——-

1) long hair would fit for a woman agent supposed to be on the roof

2) best videos I got show him on the roof no earlier than two minutes before the shooting starts. crooks actually was low on the roof and I don’t think they had a good view of him.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM (xt5tS)

188 Her long-suffering husband was Abner.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

The great George Tobias. Originally, they wanted Jim Backus for the role.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (v6JzV)

189 Most Police Chiefs in your larger urban centers are DEI hires.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (B1dzx)

190 I was annoyed Trump gave lavish praise to the Secret Service. What they did was a sort of passive aggressive "doing the bare minimum" because the leadership of that shit organization wanted to make his life harder in every way possible.

Posted by: Highlander at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (kRhM/)

191 Hat, bow tie and no pants like Yogi Bear.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM

Would you settle for 2 out of 3?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (ewjUl)

192 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)
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That is a pretty odd detail. Who keeps those receipts? A 20-year-old kid sure wouldn't.

It's not a "pretty odd detail". You've never thrown the receipt in the center console when you get into the car after shopping?

Posted by: Chuck C at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (yOPBE)

193 190 I was annoyed Trump gave lavish praise to the Secret Service. What they did was a sort of passive aggressive "doing the bare minimum" because the leadership of that shit organization wanted to make his life harder in every way possible.

Posted by: Highlander at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (kRhM/)

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He praised the agents who surrounded him, risking their lives.

That's not exactly the same thing as praising the organization as a whole or its leadership.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

194 We now have Paula Blart and Buffy the USSS agent at the PDT PA event.

Way to inspire confidence, USSS!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (tT6L1)

195 I was annoyed Trump gave lavish praise to the Secret Service. What they did was a sort of passive aggressive "doing the bare minimum" because the leadership of that shit organization wanted to make his life harder in every way possible.

And yet...his life will depend on them for the next 4 years and beyond. It's like being nice to your waiter, so he doesn't spit in your food.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (xCA6C)

196 Slide a fork under the taco to act as a lever, and press down
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

There is no limit to the breadth of expertise found here.

Posted by: Kratwurst at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (nIRE6)

197 Hat, bow tie and no pants like Yogi Bear.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM

Well. there goes the Book Thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (v6JzV)

198 I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.
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Leopard print onesies would work.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (iZbyp)

199 Hat, bow tie and no pants like Yogi Bear.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM

Another Book Thread scofflaw.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (OsWVp)

200 Every police procedural series I've watched over the last few years on the streaming services has Girlbosses in all the positions of command.
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True even for Person of Interest, where the AI was pitched as "female"

Posted by: Buffy from Pittsburghd at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (YIGq2)

201 189 Most Police Chiefs in your larger urban centers are DEI hires.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (B1dzx)

No way.

Posted by: Lee "Crown Heights" Brown at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (gKWVE)

202 Gillibrand is my other senator and she's a complete non entity. Went from an NRA supporting congresscritter to a prog moron senator. The fact that she keeps getting reelected shows how left NY is and how weak the NY GOP is

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (9Lk6I)

203 Kamahaha will never forgive or forget that "no".

Posted by: Jamaica at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (FjEs9)

204 I've never ever heard in my entire life that snipers protecting a current or former President are ordered to NOT FIRE at anyone with a weapon pointed at said President.

"Sir. We've spotted an individual on a roof with a rifle pointed at the President!"

"Ok. Keep an eye on him and lets see what he does......"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

205 Point is, you don't have to kill someone who's at the White House fence.

Unless they're driving.

Posted by: DaveA at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (FhXTo)

206 I wonder if Crooks knew he was on a suicide mission? In fact, I wonder if he was surprised he lived long enough to get off a shot at PDT?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (tT6L1)

207 Leopard print onesies would work.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (iZbyp)

Yikes.

Talk about striking fear into the hearts of the enemy....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (BAEGB)

208 It's not a "pretty odd detail". You've never thrown the receipt in the center console when you get into the car after shopping?
Posted by: Chuck C at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (yOPBE)

Hah ! I have a few Home Depot receipts in mine right now. Actually in my cup holder.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (B1dzx)

209 203. Something tells me she isn’t a fan of Bibi and Israel. Cant figure out the reason though…hmmm…

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (QyLHS)

210 Maybe the cops shouldn't wear body armor. Problem solved. They need to be vulnerable anyway.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (8sMut)

211 There are two pieces to this story, but each piece is being reported separately.

1) Security failure
2) Crooks actions, equipment, and capabilities

What is not being discussed, and I suspect on purpose, is how you ended up with a perfect storm of a massive security failure leading up to and during the event at the SAME TIME that a shooter with unexplained skills and capabilities shows up to assassinate Trump.

The odds of these two things happening at the same time as random chance are much lower than it being intentional.

And I keep coming back to the woman behind the president filming who looks a lot like one of the higher up in the FBI.

We are not going to get answers until the Trump administration can do it's own investigation.

Which in and off itself tells you it was intentional.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (5p7BC)

212 Leopard print onesies would work.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (iZbyp)
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Love it!

Posted by: Totally not gay Pajama Boy at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (tT6L1)

213 206 I wonder if Crooks knew he was on a suicide mission? In fact, I wonder if he was surprised he lived long enough to get off a shot at PDT?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:41 PM (tT6L1)

Did he care if he was on a suicide mission or not?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (8sMut)

214 Gillibrand is my other senator and she's a complete non entity. Went from an NRA supporting congresscritter to a prog moron senator. The fact that she keeps getting reelected shows how left NY is and how weak the NY GOP is

She was a very attractive woman for awhile, but the years have not been kind. She's only 57, but looks older and fatter.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (xCA6C)

215 > I was annoyed Trump gave lavish praise to the Secret Service.
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he needs those guys - bad-mouthing them achieves nothing

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (/7KEl)

216 I just want to point out that not ALL assassins and would be assassins are evil.

Shout out to Mark David Chapman. The man who saved us all from John Lennon's solo career.

Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (zKx9/)

217 There's a receipt in my console for a McMuffin from Clinton's last term.

Posted by: Lazy Detailer at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (CV8a5)

218 Leopard print onesies would work.
Posted by: screaming in digital

The 'Ettes should all dress in Josie and the Pussycats costumes.

The 'Rons should wear OshKosh B'Gosh bib overalls.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (v6JzV)

219 And not just the hard left, but every NeverTrump that they can find is getting quoted.
They are really, really butthurt that Trump didn't go with their decades-long formula for failure: Pick a moderate VP.

If there is one thing that would guarantee a Trump loss, it's dumping Vance.
Which is why they are pushing it so hard.
The same FUD spreaders that swore-- even swaying many here-- that Trump was going to pick Nikki.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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It kills the assassination subplot by the NT'ers. They know that Nikki is electoral poison similar to Kamala and that the only way she could become president is via the VP slot.

We are in very dangerous waters here now as the corrupt uniparty is beginning to fracture and desperate people do desperate things.

Under the radar is that Murdoch and Lachlain are trying to ditch the other two even more leftist and globalist Murdoch spawn from NewsCorp's decision making. Goes to a probate court in Nevada.

Weirdness will continue with us only getting glimpses here and there of the battles going on off stage between different Deep State factions.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (qdbNv)

220 216 I just want to point out that not ALL assassins and would be assassins are evil.

Shout out to Mark David Chapman. The man who saved us all from John Lennon's solo career.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (zKx9/)

========

*dies*
-Ed Driscoll

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

221 I'm amazed the shooter was a Zoomer and wasn't livestreaming it on youtube or trying to make a tik tok out of it. Pretty suspicious.

Posted by: brak at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (NGHTx)

222 Her long-suffering husband was Abner.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
The great George Tobias. Originally, they wanted Jim Backus for the role.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024

***
I'd never heard that about Backus!

Part of why the show worked as well as it did was those old-hand character actors like Tobias, Alice Pearce, Paul Lynde, and Marion Lorne, plus top-flighters like Maurice Evans and Agnes Moorehead. They knew how to deliver a line and make it work. Even the very young Richard Dreyfuss, who was on an early episode of the show, was good. Liz's husband William Asher had made those silly-but-popular Beach Party movies a few years before, and he knew how to assemble a good crew.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (J2vNu)

223 This was a very emotional time for me. My shoes were all wrong. My cats were upset I was gone all day. I ran out of granola. My gun just doesn't look right. The other agents were mean to me.
Posted by: Buffy from Pittsburgh at July 26, 2024 01:38 PM

Would you be interested in an OOD role in the Seventh Fleet?

Posted by: COMSEVENTHFLT at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (OsWVp)

224 I just want to point out that not ALL assassins and would be assassins are evil.

Shout out to Mark David Chapman. The man who saved us all from John Lennon's solo career.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (zKx9/)

HA! Ouch. Very ouch!

I feel kind of bad for laughing at this. But not very.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (xPJvm)

225 ...
new video shows officer counting 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 5 casings near the body
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

I'd be interested to see that video (continued).

The remaining questions about the shots fired are regarding the subsequent shots, after the first 3. They sound different from the first 3, but audio analysis seems to be telling us that the first 2 originated at the same distance as the shooter. Was it a second volley, from the shooter, and didn't hit anybody? That video might indicate "yes". There was also a witness who said the shooter made 5 shots.

OTOH, there were supposedly law enforcement in the building complex, and if they stuck their heads out the window (which they would have) maybe they took a couple of shots at the shooter.

There were at least a couple more shots before the one that took out the shooter. Audio analysis says the first of those 800 feet away, which is how far away the water tower was. That would seem a logical place for a counter-sniper, and supposedly many (unnamed) witnesses saw shots from there. The next shot seems to have been from almost twice a far away. Perhaps a counter-sniper on a building at a distance.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (hOOi9)

226 The 'Rons should wear OshKosh B'Gosh bib overalls.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (v6JzV)
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Makes you look handy, too!

Posted by: Red Green at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (tT6L1)

227 We are in very dangerous waters here now as the corrupt uniparty is beginning to fracture and desperate people do desperate things.

You are correct, sir!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (xCA6C)

228 It's not a "pretty odd detail". You've never thrown the receipt in the center console when you get into the car after shopping?
Posted by: Chuck C at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (yOPBE)

Not when I'm shopping for stuff I'm going to use to kill someone. But I guess that's just me.

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (sztWj)

229 According to Bongino, Cheatle's replacement is actually worse.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM

Sounds like it. During an interview with the WSJ, the acting Director, Ronald Rowe said this about Cheatle:

"When you're in the midst of a crisis, it takes toughness. It takes intelligence. And it takes also a little bit of strategy." He went on to say: "And she is demonstrating all of those traits at this time."

WTF?

Posted by: Cheri at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (oiNtH)

230 johnny maga
@_johnnymaga

Kamala Harris activists showed up to harass and intimidate Trump volunteers in Philadelphia today

Completely unacceptable behavior, especially after Trump was nearly assassinated two weeks ago

Paid union alcoholic thugs. A tale as old as time in Philadelphia

tinyurl.com/4chvbjkt

Posted by: redridinghood at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (NpAcC)

231 Crooks buys Home Deport Ladder in Butler July 8th, and brings the receipt with him on July 13th to shooting according to Christopher Wray of FBI
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:18 PM (RHGPo)
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That is a pretty odd detail. Who keeps those receipts? A 20-year-old kid sure wouldn't.

It's not a "pretty odd detail". You've never thrown the receipt in the center console when you get into the car after shopping?
Posted by: Chuck C

There was no ladder. Wray addressed that in his testimony and Bongino's sources confirmed that. He discussed that prior to Wray's testimony. The issue Bongino ripped them on was the fact that they didn't have a means to access that roof. The cop who confronted him was boosted by another cop. They had to scramble to find a ladder. How he got access to roof hasn't been answered. The supposed ladder purchase at HD is a distraction.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (GVv8N)

232 I'm starting to think Biden's dogs were on to something
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (s3qiR)

Snort!

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (JCLJi)

233 Somebody at the top said ‘Let’s him the JV team and put a girl in charge of the important shit. It’s just Trump anyway.’

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (o2ZRX)

234 The conspiracy I accept right now is that the powers to be have been intentionally setting up Trump’s security with the minimal quality and quantity they can get away with and whatever happens happens.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (B1dzx)

235 @_johnnymaga

Kamala Harris activists showed up to harass and intimidate Trump volunteers in Philadelphia today

Trump volunteers should've beat the shit out of them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

236 On topic comedy rant by Andrew Schultz (no idea who he is)

https://x.com/Lytsout193/status/
1816254987946844192

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (FUHCU)

237 We are not going to get answers until the Trump administration can do it's own investigation.

Which in and off itself tells you it was intentional.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Honesty has been off the table for at least one century involving the nat sec issue. The consistent argument is that revealing past mistakes and evil acts by gubmit agents/military/etc will cause a loss of faith by the public in the regime.

Bureaucracies always act like cats--they want to shit and cover it up because it stinks all in the name of protecting the US public from inconvenient truths.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 01:47 PM (qdbNv)

238 Maybe he just left it in the car when he first bought it. I dunno. I've been known to just drop a receipt into the space beneath the middle dash and leave it there for a few weeks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 26, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

I was just re-reading accounts of the shooting. The ladder receipt was "bloodied". It was in the personal possession of the assassin on the roof.

Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:47 PM (rj6Yv)

239 The reason that evidence is not being discussed is because there are too many cellphones with cameras anymore. They can't tell a story and then have it disproved within an hour with video evidence.

They need to see all of the witness evidence before they come up with a story that fits it all.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 26, 2024 01:47 PM (lTGtQ)

240 What is not being discussed, and I suspect on purpose, is how you ended up with a perfect storm of a massive security failure leading up to and during the event at the SAME TIME that a shooter with unexplained skills and capabilities shows up to assassinate Trump
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At the same time CNN is broadcasting a Trump rally live, at the same time Jill is right across town decked out in Trump Protest White.

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:47 PM (sztWj)

241 Standing around in cheap suits rubbing their dicks and front holes is overworked. Got it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (/U5Yz)

242 Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (GVv8N

I’ve read earlier that he accessed the roof by climbing up the A/C system . Photos show that it could be done.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (B1dzx)

243 I'm starting to think Biden's dogs were on to something
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024 01:29 PM (s3qiR)

Smelling a whole lot of malarkey?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (v6JzV)

244 It's not a "pretty odd detail". You've never thrown the receipt in the center console when you get into the car after shopping?
Posted by: Chuck C at July 26, 2024

***
Heck no. If it was a credit card receipt, I keep it at home until the card statement/bill comes, to check. If it was a big item, I keep it until I'm sure the purchase has worked out. If it was a check or debit pay, I hang on to it until the bank statement comes.

If it was a cash buy for something small, say at Dollar Tree, I leave it in one of the bags and toss it after I get home. This way, no clutter in the car.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (J2vNu)

245 New FOX News state polls to be released 6pm EST today.

Posted by: mnw at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (NLIak)

246 8 Hard to believe the performed worse than I suspected since I suspected they were trying to kill the president without actually putting a gun to his head themselves.

--

Me, you, and I am guessing a whole buncha ppl

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (FUHCU)

247 200 Every police procedural series I've watched over the last few years on the streaming services has Girlbosses in all the positions of command.
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True even for Person of Interest, where the AI was pitched as "female"

i was young and needed the money

Posted by: chatgptrina at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (oY6Yp)

248 I’ve read earlier that he accessed the roof by climbing up the A/C system . Photos show that it could be done.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (B1dzx)

I thought there were photos out pretty quick of a ladder posted up near that roof as well.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

249 They had to scramble to find a ladder. How he got access to roof hasn't been answered. The supposed ladder purchase at HD is a distraction.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (GVv8N)

It's a distraction to us, for sure. Has the FBI located the Home Depot ladder yet?

Posted by: mrp at July 26, 2024 01:49 PM (rj6Yv)

250 245 New FOX News state polls to be released 6pm EST today.
Posted by: mnw

I'll believe the opposite of what they claim.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 01:49 PM (/U5Yz)

251 I was annoyed Trump gave lavish praise to the Secret Service.
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he needs those guys - bad-mouthing them achieves nothing
Posted by: Don Black

Consider that what he says publicly is one thing, but what he does behind the scenes is probably completely different. The man is shrewd and I think he knows who his true enemies are and what they're intentions are.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:50 PM (GVv8N)

252 Jimmy Dore had the video of people walking around on the roof that was "too dangerous to be on" according to Cheatle.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)

253 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (J2vNu)
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Don't forget Bernard Fox as Dr. Bombay!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 01:50 PM (3Fz6p)

254 245 New FOX News state polls to be released 6pm EST today.

Fox News has officially called Arizona for Harris

Posted by: brak at July 26, 2024 01:50 PM (NGHTx)

255 Jimmy Dore had the video of people walking around on the roof that was "too dangerous to be on" according to Cheatle.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)

The FBI was walking around the roof SPRAYING IT WITH WATER.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)

256 The AI in the movie version of I, Robot was Vickie. A girl boss to save mankind.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (9Lk6I)

257 Trump volunteers should've beat the shit out of them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

I expect it's coming to that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (9Eyyt)

258 245 New FOX News state polls to be released 6pm EST today.
Posted by: mnw
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You really need to stop using Fox polling for much of anything as they have been abysmal in performance since the Obama years.

They are proven unreliable by their past performance and are there mainly to give narrative talking points to its news team and commenters.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (qdbNv)

259
“Karens for Kamala"

Harridans for Harris

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (xG4kz)

260 When you see the Ewok wearing a crop top and carrying a Messenger Bag, roll up on the Vespa...you will know it is Ace.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:32 PM (zKx9/)

*shudders at the visual*

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (JCLJi)

261 Vance is so deeply unpopular in the midwest that Trump voters are flocking to Kamala in recode numbers! His campaign is doooooomed! He has no path to victory! The walls are closing in!!! He should have listened to us conservative commentariat who have done nothing but trash him the last 8 years and picked a moderate!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (d9LQi)

262 I am starting to wonder if it wasn't a plot to let anyone who wanted to take a shot at DJT

And the weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (F5WKh)

263 I thought there were photos out pretty quick of a ladder posted up near that roof as well.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

The 12 foot ladder that LE used .

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (B1dzx)

264 All of these "embarrassing" "revelations" are just to feign incompetence after their deliberate Serpico setup went wrong. Trump was supposed to be dead, and all of this was supposed to be swept under the rug during the national celebrations.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (0FoWg)

265 Gladys Kravitz
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:33 PM (v6JzV)

That's it!!! Thank you.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (JCLJi)

266 The FBI was walking around the roof SPRAYING IT WITH WATER.........
——————

This just shows our heroic agents dedication regardless of the danger.

Posted by: Crissy Wray at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (Y8lzz)

267 Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (GVv8N

I’ve read earlier that he accessed the roof by climbing up the A/C system . Photos show that it could be done.
Posted by: polynikes

I trust Bongino's assessment. Having listened to him for awhile, he doesn't make statements he can't produce receipts for.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (GVv8N)

268 Shout out to Mark David Chapman. The man who saved us all from John Lennon's solo career.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (zKx9/)

He wasn't the real target.

Posted by: Anton Cermak at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (0eaVi)

269 I wish Trump would nickname her "Cuntala Whorris"

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (sztWj)

270 "Harridans for Harris"

Whores for Harris !

Posted by: Next2Nothing at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (tA1/w)

271 226 The 'Rons should wear OshKosh B'Gosh bib overalls.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 01:44 PM (v6JzV)
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Makes you look handy, too!
Posted by: Red Green at July 26, 2024 01:45 PM (tT6L1)

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Is that a roll of duct tape in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

Posted by: Just Lily at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (RLLZj)

272 216 I just want to point out that not ALL assassins and would be assassins are evil.

Shout out to Mark David Chapman. The man who saved us all from John Lennon's solo career.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (zKx9/)
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He is indeed evil, perhaps the greatest evil of all time. He made Yoko Ono into a Lennon martyr and inflicted upon the world her horrible, talentless "art".

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (9aVck)

273 Well slap my ass and call me Sally.
Posted by: wth at July 26, 2024 01:04 PM (v0R5T)

*slaps wth's ass*

You love it don't you Sally?

Posted by: Guy that slaps ass and calls them Sally at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (lRx9h)

274 ...
new video shows officer counting 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 5 casings near the body
Posted by: SMOD at July 26, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

I'd be interested to see that video (last part).

The security authorities might be trying to hide information just because they don't want a potential adversary to know what they might be up against.

The FBI Director said that there were "8 cartridges" found at the shooter, but casings are what matters. Probably he wanted us to think he misspoke, and think all 8 shots were from the shooter.

This video (which I haven't seen) says 5 actual casings. That would mean 5 shots by the shooter. Is it for-real, or fake? Are they just trying to hide the embarrassment of the shooter being positioned right under their noses?

How could the shooter not hit SOMEBODY, with more shots?

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (hOOi9)

275 I forgot to mention, the video Jimmy Dore showed...there was a nice window available for LEO to look out of and keep an eye on the roof, all while in the comfort of AC.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (tT6L1)

276 Within the last 20 minutes Trumps polls have cratered! He is only at 1% nationally! Kamala is inevitable! Everybody loves her!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (d9LQi)

277 "Just heard Bibi laughed in Kamala’s face and blurted an audible 'no'..."

I really, really wanna see this! Would so make my weekend.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (JCLJi)

278 OT-Even "Teen Magazine" weighs in on Vance. I am obviously not a teen. This just comes in my internet feed of articles that Bing thinks I might be interested in:

"Vance doesn't want all women to be "trad wives". Just white ones."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (dTTBf)

279 Vary vary Chitmahs!

Posted by: Yoko at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (Y8lzz)

280 The closest, most vulnerable, elevated position was left unmanned-PERIOD! What else needs clarifying? What am I failing to understand?
I’m no military expert by any means. Never served. While I do have a shotgun, and am familiar with hunting tactics, I’m not especially familiar with security protocol, I knew immediately that there was something terribly wrong with the assassins ability to easily get into position to shoot from that location.

Posted by: Unkaren at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (2nlEB)

281 Son of a friend of mine is a SS agent. The rank and file lean decidedly right, and they have been disgusted and demoralized for some time due to the DEI nonsense. Like so many of the rest of us, they are hoping for better times come January, 2025.

Posted by: Charles Martel at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (6Gpcl)

282 Honesty has been off the table for at least one century involving the nat sec issue. The consistent argument is that revealing past mistakes and evil acts by gubmit agents/military/etc will cause a loss of faith by the public in the regime.

Bureaucracies always act like cats--they want to shit and cover it up because it stinks all in the name of protecting the US public from inconvenient truths.
Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 01:47 PM

Jerry Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy:

https://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (OsWVp)

283 Shout out to Mark David Chapman. The man who saved us all from John Lennon's solo career.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:43 PM (zKx9/)
===

But Double Fantasy

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (JvZF+)

284 266 The FBI was walking around the roof SPRAYING IT WITH WATER.........
——————

The roof was hot. They had to cool it down.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (d9LQi)

285 As was noted, the best way to analyze this is by watching two video by Tim Kennedy, one is a stand alone video that's 11 minutes and the other is a conversation with Chris Williams that's an hour.

Also there is a video by Robert Barnes that lays out the Deep State angle on this.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (11tN9)

286 Vance doesn't want all women to be "trad wives". Just white ones."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2024 01:53 PM (dTTBf)

"Oh. Well that's alright then. "

- the five not white girls who read Teen Magazine

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:54 PM (BAEGB)

287 242 Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (GVv8N

I’ve read earlier that he accessed the roof by climbing up the A/C system . Photos show that it could be done.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (B1dzx
Either did that or ‘somebody’ held the ladder for him and then moved it.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (o2ZRX)

288 … at the same time the other candidate is in serious trouble and clearly going to lose to Trump.
And right before the RNC for maximum confusion and a rush to replace ( no doubt to trigger a poor replacement choice).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (Hkcdp)

289 If Harris picks Buttigieg will their campaign slogan be "Free Oral and Anal for All"!!!?

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (9aVck)

290 Any relation to famous teacher Miss Crabtree?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 26, 2024 01:05 PM (x0n13)

Too bad she couldn't have been the inquisitive busy body Mrs. Kravitz, right?

Posted by: Boswell at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (K+UlC)

291 I trust Bongino's assessment. Having listened to him for awhile, he doesn't make statements he can't produce receipts for.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM (GVv8N)

And he said he doesn’t know. Others have claimed the A/C system. He does know and confirmed there was no ladder.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:56 PM (B1dzx)

292 287 I’ve read earlier that he accessed the roof by climbing up the A/C system . Photos show that it could be done.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (B1dzx
Either did that or ‘somebody’ held the ladder for him and then moved it.

i have an alibi

Posted by: skinwalker at July 26, 2024 01:56 PM (oY6Yp)

293 Gash supersedes competence.

Posted by: Probably votes with her lady parts too at July 26, 2024 01:56 PM (lRx9h)

294 262 I am starting to wonder if it wasn't a plot to let anyone who wanted to take a shot at DJT
Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2024 01:51 PM (F5WKh)

Sounds like a free-enterprise opportunity. Set up one queue for rally attendees, another queue for shooters. But to protect the attendees you only get one shot. Then you have to give up your snipernest to the next yahoo.

Posted by: now we have to decide on a price at July 26, 2024 01:56 PM (gKWVE)

295 251 I was annoyed Trump gave lavish praise to the Secret Service.
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he needs those guys - bad-mouthing them achieves nothing
Posted by: Don Black

Consider that what he says publicly is one thing, but what he does behind the scenes is probably completely different. The man is shrewd and I think he knows who his true enemies are and what they're intentions are.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
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The issue with private security is that they do not have the mantle of gubmint qualified immunity if they shoot some doofus. They also do not have the power to do much to coordinate with local and state leos nor much leverage to make those agencies play ball.

So, Trump is making the best of a bad situation. But, the organized assassination approach is probably off the agenda now for the Deep State agenda. Vance would be likely then to win due to Trump martyrdom and it might have LBJ like effects downballot breaking the uniparty (see Aquino's wife in the PI after Marcos had her husband shot and killed).

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 01:56 PM (qdbNv)

296 239 The reason that evidence is not being discussed is because there are too many cellphones with cameras anymore. They can't tell a story and then have it disproved within an hour with video evidence.

They need to see all of the witness evidence before they come up with a story that fits it all.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 26, 2024 01:47

Oh I suspect you're correct.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 26, 2024 01:56 PM (Go6qm)

297 Gladys Kravitz.

Alice Pearce>>>Sandra Gould

Posted by: TV Facts and Foibles at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (CV8a5)

298 289 If Harris picks Buttigieg will their campaign slogan be "Free Oral and Anal for All"!!!?
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (9aVck)

No Cock Unsucked!

Posted by: No child left behind either at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (lRx9h)

299 266 The FBI was walking around the roof SPRAYING IT WITH WATER.........

It wasn't water. It was Slope Relaxer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (nOjd9)

300
The "site agent" responsible for spotting likely sniper's nests and lines of fire?

An "inexperienced woman."

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local law enforcement partners offered drones to Secret Service before Butler, PA Trump rally. Secret Service DECLINED.m

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"Math is hard." *giggle*

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (d4X7t)

301 Teen magazine, huh?
Of course the understand what Vance meant - don’t all teen girls think rationally and keep their emotions in check???

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (Hkcdp)

302 Go back to the film room. See how many events Trump has done over the years with an obvious lapse in security. Then see who was running those gigs.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (BAEGB)

303
Son of a friend of mine is a SS agent. The rank and file lean decidedly right, and they have been disgusted and demoralized for some time due to the DEI nonsense. Like so many of the rest of us, they are hoping for better times come January, 2025.
Posted by: Charles Martel

===============

I sincerely hope that if the election goes well, they are not let down as they (probably) were before. I never heard of any big cleanup of federal LE during Trump's first term although one was needed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (I87yH)

304 The FBI was walking around the roof SPRAYING IT WITH WATER.........
——————

This just shows our heroic agents dedication regardless of the danger.
Posted by: Crissy Wray at July 26, 2024 01:52 PM

Analysis: TRUE.

Given how slippery a roof with that slope gets when wet, there is no telling what might have happened.

Posted by: Snopes at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (OsWVp)

305 Someone needs to tell the USSS to quit pouring gasoline on the dumpster fire of security that was the PDT PA event.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (tT6L1)

306 Well I can, but y’all don’t like the way I eat, either. There is no making y’all happy.
Posted by: Piper

I’d be very happy with some chocolate frosting sandwiched between 2 slices of chocolate cake …

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Cuisine Critic . . . at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (TX4bP)

307 I’ve read earlier that he accessed the roof by climbing up the A/C system . Photos show that it could be done.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:48 PM (B1dzx
Either did that or ‘somebody’ held the ladder for him and then moved it.
Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (o2ZRX)

If I had used a ladder and I was by myself I would simply pull it up with me.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (B1dzx)

308 And yet...his life will depend on them for the next 4 years and beyond. It's like being nice to your waiter, so he doesn't spit in your food.

That and any of them who were sandbagging and have any shame are likely to work harder to live up to his expectations.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (hB7mE)

309 261...The GOPe Doomers/Never Trumpers are largely recovered from their dangerously close brush with optimism.

Sure, MAGA has some real assholes on their side. But some of these DeSantis dead-enders are just as bad. I wanted Ron to win. He didn't, and he gave a great speech at the RNC in support of Trump. Suck it up.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (mEmYO)

310 Jerry Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy:

https://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Jerry was someone who had done it all and was the epitome of Heinlein's competent man.

As a policy sci prof, political operative (Sam Yorty's campaign) sci fi and tech writer, and tech enthusiast that directly affected Ronald Reagan's Star Wars initiative.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (qdbNv)

311 Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson and Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries on Tuesday jointly announced the creation of a task force to investigate the "shocking" security failures, comprising seven Republicans and six Democrats.
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Pretty sure the long standing tradition of special bi-partisan committees is to let the Democrats pick which Republicans are allowed to sit on the committee.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (fs1hN)

312 Late to the thread, has the TOP. MEN. person done the TOP. MEN.* thing?

*Now to include women.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (JeYYB)

313 I'm starting to think Biden's dogs were on to something
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 26, 2024

Yes. Having one biter out of 3 happens, having two? Having three from the same family? God only knows what those poor pooches have had to witness to get them wired to that point. Definately not trained.

Posted by: Cheri at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (oiNtH)

314 Oh look! Kamala already messed up her first big eyes on me event with Israel! What a shock.

Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (pZEOD)

315 An interesting dynamic in congressional support. A House and Senate full of people who dream of being President some day, all thinking "that could have been me."

Posted by: MartynW at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (sHP7b)

316 Top Men are my favorite kind!

Posted by: Pete Buttigiege at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (Y8lzz)

317 312 Late to the thread, has the TOP. MEN. person done the TOP. MEN.* thing?

*Now to include women.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (JeYYB)

TOP PYRSYNS

FRONT HOLES

Posted by: Useless in any form at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (lRx9h)

318 They put an inexperienced woman in charge for plausible deniability.

As we saw, the one thing Cheatle and Mayorkas responded to was the alleged insults to the small, clueless women.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (Hkcdp)

319 If I had used a ladder and I was by myself I would simply pull it up with me.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:58 PM (B1dzx)

Glares!

Of course you would! You just don't want anyone else succeed!!!

Posted by: Some Leftist at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (0eaVi)

320 If Harris picks Buttigieg will their campaign slogan be "Free Oral and Anal for All"!!!?
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 26, 2024 01:55 PM (9aVck)

No Cock Unsucked!
Posted by: No child left behind either at July 26, 2024 01:57 PM (lRx9h)

~~A chicken in every pot.~~ An STD in every hole!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (eDfFs)

321 David White was very good as Larry Tate, also.

Dick Sargent stank, though.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (v6JzV)

322 Anton Cermak aka "Tony" was wounded by the would-be then president-elect FDR in Florida.

He died after two weeks, about halfway through the trial. They switched midstream into a murder trial, and convicted him.

Total elapsed time from assassination attempt on FDR and killing Tony Cermak, to the conviction and execution of the gun man? I think it was 32 days, total.

They don't even bother with press conferences any longer apparently

Posted by: Common Tater at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (ylQTz)

323 Pretty sure the long standing tradition of special bi-partisan committees is to let the Democrats pick which Republicans are allowed to sit on the committee.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 26, 2024 01:59 PM (fs1hN)

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Dade Phelan, Drinker of the TX House at July 26, 2024 02:01 PM (8sMut)

324 Is all of this still being thought of as accidental here?

Refusing to critically think helps the deep state. The lone gunman shit is the easy way out. That is why it is presented. Government is out to get you is scary.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 26, 2024 02:01 PM (Z8Yh2)

325 I love the fact that a foreign leader just had to literally "LOL No" the vice president to her face in public.

What a fucking clown.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 26, 2024 02:02 PM (BAEGB)

326 Dick Sargent stank, though.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (v6JzV)

Found it hard to play a straight man.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 02:02 PM (B1dzx)

327 289 If Harris picks Buttigieg will their campaign slogan be "Free Oral and Anal for All"!!!?
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe
============
All Orifices are open for business.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 02:02 PM (qdbNv)

328 Mary: "Mother's listening in on the other line..."
Susan Crabtree: "I am not!"

Posted by: Boswell at July 26, 2024 02:02 PM (K+UlC)

329 Most Police Chiefs in your larger urban centers are DEI hires.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (B1dzx)

No way.
Posted by: Lee "Crown Heights" Brown

City of Spokane just hired a white male. Suprised some people. Rumors where that Carmen Best, former Seattle PC , was the lead candidate. Don't know anything about the gentleman, but there might be a glimmer of hope.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 02:02 PM (GVv8N)

330
I sincerely hope that if the election goes well, they are not let down as they (probably) were before. I never heard of any big cleanup of federal LE during Trump's first term although one was needed.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office

Somebody has to staff the new $100M HQ he wants to build.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:03 PM (/U5Yz)

331 Wait - what just happened with Kamal?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2024 02:03 PM (Hkcdp)

332 Dick York.

Dick Sargent.

Sargent. York.

Mind.

Blown.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 02:03 PM (3Fz6p)

333 What did Kamala ask Netanyahu?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 26, 2024 02:03 PM (JeYYB)

334 Supply-side problems including low water in the Panama Canal has led to a shortage of blue ribbons, which are the very basis of Blue Ribbon Commissions and Panels.

Posted by: Nothing To See Here, Go Away at July 26, 2024 02:04 PM (CV8a5)

335 Elizabeth Montgomery or Barbara Eden?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (/U5Yz)

336 If you were on the other side of the front door you’d think my GSD wanted to rip your throat out. Once you’re inside you realize she just wants a hug and maybe an ass scratch.

*sigh*

She is both a good dog but also a disappointment.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (Y8lzz)

337 Teen magazine. Misleading teens since 1983.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (o2ZRX)

338 334 Supply-side problems including low water in the Panama Canal has led to a shortage of blue ribbons, which are the very basis of Blue Ribbon Commissions and Panels.
Posted by: Nothing To See Here, Go Away at July 26, 2024 02:04 PM (CV8a5)

-------

hhhahahahahhhaha

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (JeYYB)

339 If Harris picks Buttigieg will their campaign slogan be "Free Oral and Anal for All"!!!?
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe
============

"I offer this oral, and anal handshake....."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)

340 Dick York.

Dick Sargent.

Sargent. York.

Mind.

Blown.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 02:03 PM (3Fz6p)

Hey! What about Dick Dick, jerk!

Posted by: Dik-dik at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (eDfFs)

341 Elizabeth Montgomery or Barbara Eden?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (/U5Yz)
-----------
Dawn Wells.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (3Fz6p)

342 335 Liz first, then Barbara.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:06 PM (v6JzV)

343 >>> they didn't have a means to access that roof. The cop who confronted him was boosted by another cop. They had to scramble to find a ladder. How he got access to roof hasn't been answered. The supposed ladder purchase at HD is a distraction.
Posted by: Sock Monkey

2nd floor window?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 26, 2024 02:06 PM (m6NVp)

344 318 They put an inexperienced woman in charge for plausible deniability.

As we saw, the one thing Cheatle and Mayorkas responded to was the alleged insults to the small, clueless women.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2024 02:00 PM (Hkcdp)

Right - we'll again rally on "DEI" hire, while the men who planned this to a T get off scot free. We're so gullible...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 26, 2024 02:06 PM (exHjb)

345 All Orifices are open for business.
Posted by: whig at July 26, 2024 02:02 PM (qdbNv)

Bumper Sticker suggestion?

Vote Kamala/Buttigieg - The Orifices of Demphi!

Posted by: Boswell at July 26, 2024 02:06 PM (K+UlC)

346 341 Elizabeth Montgomery or Barbara Eden?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (/U5Yz)
-----------
Dawn Wells.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar

Too perky.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:06 PM (/U5Yz)

347 Anyone have a link to the video with Bibi laughing in camel’s face? I haven’t seen it; need a laugh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 26, 2024 02:07 PM (xT8gx)

348 Too perky.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:06 PM (/U5Yz)
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I like perk.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 02:07 PM (3Fz6p)

349 The Hag and the....

Damn if only something good rhymed with "hag".

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 02:07 PM (sztWj)

350 And yet...his life will depend on them for the next 4 years and beyond. It's like being nice to your waiter, so he doesn't spit in your food.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (xCA6C)

If Trump has the sense G-d gave a goose, they'll be ordered to stay far away from him, and he'lli be guarded by his own people.

This will not be the Party's last attempt to kill him. It probably wasn't even the first.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 26, 2024 02:07 PM (0FoWg)

351 335 Elizabeth Montgomery or Barbara Eden?
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Tina Cole. She had triplets and got her lovely figure back by the very next episode.

Posted by: TV Fax and Figgers at July 26, 2024 02:08 PM (CV8a5)

352 I will taste Trumps food. Cheap.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 26, 2024 02:08 PM (Z8Yh2)

353 So, kid is a gender-uncertain Antifa member with a ready-to-go sweet nerdy middle school pic.
Untrained (and not in on it) woman are used as a smokescreen all throughout the Op. Local forces are also used to take the blame.

Mayorkas and some folks in the deep state pull off an assassination with none the wiser...only a Higher power made them fail...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 26, 2024 02:09 PM (exHjb)

354 Damn if only something good rhymed with "hag".
Posted by: ...

mag, vag...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:09 PM (v6JzV)

355 Paul Fussell, I think it was in his book Wartime and the inter-war transition of Washington from a sleepy little southern town where the sidewalks were rolled up at night, to this .... thing, mentioned that it was routine for summer thunderstorms to roll through DC.

The White House was perfect to drive your car up to, underneath the Portico and get out of the rain for 15 or 20 minutes. Nobody cared, nobody tried to blow up the White House or break-in and attack anybody.

Now they have barriers around it, and fences and surveillance and snipers on the roof and guys with Stingers, iirc. One of the big, glaring humongous outright BS lies was when Condoleeza Rice claimed "nobody saw this coming, people flying planes into buildings". They knew, this was an open secret in DC and scared the shit out of everybody since about 1985 or before.

Each incident, and the one like in Butler, Penn., just means an already aloof and isolated government becomes even more isolated.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 26, 2024 02:09 PM (ylQTz)

356 One vote here for Barbara Eden…. But Samantha Stevens and Mary Ann were also hot. What about Samantha’s bad girl sister? Whoa

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 26, 2024 02:10 PM (xT8gx)

357 Damn if only something good rhymed with "hag".
Posted by: ...

mag, vag...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:09 PM (v6JzV)
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Agrajag!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 26, 2024 02:10 PM (3Fz6p)

358 The Hag and the....

Damn if only something good rhymed with "hag".
Posted by: ... at July 26, 2024 02:07 PM (sztWj)

Tea bag.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 02:10 PM (0eaVi)

359 The Hag and the....

Damn if only something good rhymed with "hag".
Posted by: ...

Fag
Slag
Nag

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 02:10 PM (+Wnnh)

360 >The roof was hot. They had to cool it down.

also, brain matter and skull fragments are messy

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 02:11 PM (/7KEl)

361 Tina Cole. She had triplets and got her lovely figure back by the very next episode.
Posted by: TV Fax and Figgers

Tina Cole...mmmmmm...she did things to young Bularoctonus.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:11 PM (v6JzV)

362 What about Samantha’s bad girl sister? Whoa
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 26, 2024

***
Serena, Smantha's cousin. The story goes that Bill Asher took one look at Liz in the black wig, and they had to stop at a motel on the way home that evening. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 26, 2024 02:12 PM (J2vNu)

363 86 If there was supposed to be an agent on the roof I can understand why the other snipers were hesitant in taking a shot without approval.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:23 PM (B1dzx)

Don't these people have binoculars?? Did the long-haired freak LOOK like an agent?

Posted by: kathysaysso at July 26, 2024 02:12 PM (MYecY)

364 Tina Cole...mmmmmm...she did things to young Bularoctonus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:11 PM (v6JzV)

Did she make your full nic grow back?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 02:12 PM (0eaVi)

365 >>Elizabeth Montgomery or Barbara Eden?

Embrace the power of the "and" or however that bit here is worded.

Posted by: bed head at July 26, 2024 02:13 PM (Y1sOo)

366 Tina Cole...mmmmmm...she did things to young Bularoctonus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:11 PM (v6JzV)

Did she make your full nic grow back?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Ha! No.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:14 PM (v6JzV)

367 Fag hag and the fag.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

368 Elizabeth Montgomery, very much

https://tinyurl.com/2dhe2pzc

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 02:14 PM (/7KEl)

369 201 189 Most Police Chiefs in your larger urban centers are DEI hires.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2024 01:39 PM (B1dzx)

No way.
Posted by: Lee "Crown Heights" Brown at July 26, 2024 01:40 PM (gKWVE)

Except for the commanding general of the SAPD, McManus. I think he's still there. But he has the attutide of most cops: pick and choose what laws to enforce. He gets very upset at the idea of enforcing laws on people who cheerfully break our immigration laws to begin with. He considers them a protected class of people.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 26, 2024 02:15 PM (8sMut)

370 Fag hag and the fag.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

Updated for 2024:
Hag and the Drag

Posted by: Boswell at July 26, 2024 02:15 PM (K+UlC)

371
https://tinyurl.com/2dhe2pzc
Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2024 02:14 PM (/7KEl)

That seems photoshopped.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 26, 2024 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

372 Elizabeth Montgomery, very much

https://tinyurl.com/2dhe2pzc
Posted by: Don Black

Yowza!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:15 PM (v6JzV)

373 Barbara Eden. Don't forget the Catwoman, she was a smokeshow extraordinaire.

Susan Oliver starred in the Star Trek pilot episode, I liked her. That was basically her only film role and retired from acting. Ellie May was pretty easy on the eyes as well. It would have been tough to be around Dolly Parton back in the day as well. She was downright dangerous. Some gals are just not capable of handling too much attention, it certainly isn't any more "fair" than gals (or guys) who got hit by the ugly stick. Dolly must have been quick on her feet! LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at July 26, 2024 02:15 PM (ylQTz)

374 Kamala does not support new innovative drugs from Big Pharma.

https://tinyurl.com/5fydu6nz

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:16 PM (/U5Yz)

375 Most Police Chiefs in your larger urban centers are DEI hires.
Posted by: polynikes
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Our hyper-Progressive City Council hired a lesbian chief. Within a year, neighbors placed a 'domestic dispute' call, as the chief and her 'friend' were having a violent fight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2024 02:18 PM (XeU6L)

376 Dolly must have been quick on her feet! LOL
Posted by: Common Tater at July 26, 2024 02:15 PM (ylQTz)

Never really cared for Dolly. There was always a couple things about her that seemed shady to me.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 02:18 PM (0eaVi)

377 The Hag and the....

Damn if only something good rhymed with "hag".
Posted by: ...

Fag
Slag
Nag
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 02:10 PM (+Wnnh)

Dag.

Posted by: Mickey the Pikey at July 26, 2024 02:19 PM (xPJvm)

378 Never really cared for Dolly. There was always a couple things about her that seemed shady to me.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

A couple of things that provided a lot of shade.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:19 PM (v6JzV)

379 MI poll claims 0% support for trump among blacks in the state.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 26, 2024 02:20 PM (d9LQi)

380 Yvonne Craig, of the Batman show and as a bonus, one of the green Orion women of Star Trek. (Also cute in a Elvis movie at the time, IIRC)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 26, 2024 02:20 PM (fs1hN)

381 @372

>>Yowza!

She's got some heavies.

The other thing about the actresses back in the day is they all had to be able to dance as well, so they all have these banging dancer hardbodies.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 26, 2024 02:20 PM (11tN9)

382 A couple of things that provided a lot of shade.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:19 PM (v6JzV)

That's right.

And left, too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 02:21 PM (0eaVi)

383 This is like a mag dump of propaganda.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 26, 2024 02:21 PM (d9LQi)

384 Wilbur's wife on Mr. Ed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:21 PM (v6JzV)

385 Kamala does not support new innovative drugs from Big Pharma.

https://tinyurl.com/5fydu6nz
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Big Pharma will take out a hit.
That'll cost them billions.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 26, 2024 02:23 PM (+Wnnh)

386 And let's not forget Laura Petrie.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:23 PM (v6JzV)

387 The other thing about the actresses back in the day is they all had to be able to dance as well, so they all have these banging dancer hardbodies.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 26, 2024 02:20 PM (11tN9)

All the golden age hollywood types had to do that. George Raft, the gangsterish gangster in movies was a dancer too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 02:23 PM (0eaVi)

388 Elizabeth Montgomery or Barbara Eden?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 26, 2024 02:05 PM (/U5Yz)

As a woman? Either. Could you imagine being able to cross your arms or twitch your nose, and all your work would be DONE instantly?!

Btw I've been told more than once that I look like Barbara Eden, which I didn't always think was a great compliment. I always thought here face was a little... off. Like her eyes were going to permanently cross at any moment.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 26, 2024 02:24 PM (JCLJi)

389 Btw I've been told more than once that I look like Barbara Eden
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question

You know the rules, Lady Who. Pics.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 26, 2024 02:25 PM (v6JzV)

390 Judy Tyler might have been one of the most beautiful and talented ladies that was an Elvis co-star. She had been in a very successful Broadway play, was cast in Jailhouse Rock, one of the best Presley movies. She signed to do Broadway again, had some time to kill until it started. She and her husband bought a new car in California and started driving East. They were killed in a traffic accident on the way. I think she was 26 or 27. She might have become a huge star.

Posted by: Hollywood Fables at July 26, 2024 02:26 PM (CV8a5)

391 Gee, there's another thread up. Been up for thirty minutes, and no one said....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 26, 2024 02:33 PM (0eaVi)

392 ...
What is not being discussed, and I suspect on purpose, is how you ended up with a perfect storm of a massive security failure leading up to and during the event at the SAME TIME that a shooter with unexplained skills and capabilities shows up to assassinate Trump.

The odds of these two things happening at the same time as random chance are much lower than it being intentional.

And I keep coming back to the woman behind the president filming who looks a lot like one of the higher up in the FBI.
...
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (5p7BC)

On the one hand, you could say that the shooter spotted the opportunity when the guard on the roof left; so not really a coincidence.

On the other hand, the path for the shooter was magically cleared right in front of him, right under security's noses.

The shooter seemed to have a number of options he could have gone with, considering the detonator he had on him.

As far as his "skills", I hear that it was a pretty easy shot, and he had practiced shooting on a regular basis.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 02:35 PM (hOOi9)

393 There was no ladder. Wray addressed that in his testimony and Bongino's sources confirmed that. He discussed that prior to Wray's testimony. The issue Bongino ripped them on was the fact that they didn't have a means to access that roof. The cop who confronted him was boosted by another cop. They had to scramble to find a ladder. How he got access to roof hasn't been answered. The supposed ladder purchase at HD is a distraction.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Atavistic at July 26, 2024 01:46 PM (GVv8N)

I saw a photo (taken from the air) of the building, and there was very clearly a ladder there. It went up to that corridor-like structure that connects that building to the next. It was behind tree or shrubs. Once on top of that "corridor", the roof was only a foot or two higher.

Other people trying to access the roof would not necessarily have been able to see that ladder.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 02:41 PM (hOOi9)

394 USSS incompetence is the ruse to get us to stop talking about the 2nd (at least) shooter.

Posted by: TA at July 26, 2024 02:49 PM (xTinh)

395 Also, while I think some people on here go a bit over the top with the women can’t do jack taco except fold laundry, I am NOT one to say anything a man can do, we can do better. I am pretty strong / fairly fit for a female my age. But cheese and crackers, I am 5’1. I am not big enough to guard much of anyone, I am not carrying a full grown man out of a burning building, I am not taking down someone who grabs me from behind making me a liability and not an asset in any battle/ fight situation. The only thing I would be good at in this space is bait.
Posted by: Piper at July 26, 2024 01:15 PM (pZEOD)

I think a woman should be able to do fine doing a site coverage map and plan given some information on ranges of guns, some 3-d models to see if X can be seen from Y. Since you are presumably erring on the side of caution, you see a big building 100 yards from the President, you put at least one person on it. Or two.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2024 03:15 PM (eoQWY)

396 As far as his "skills", I hear that it was a pretty easy shot, and he had practiced shooting on a regular basis.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 26, 2024 02:35 PM (hOOi9)

I saw a video on YT where a dude recreated the shot on a range and the he, who had shot a few times with a rifle hit the target about 90 percent.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2024 03:17 PM (eoQWY)

397 And I keep coming back to the woman behind the president filming who looks a lot like one of the higher up in the FBI.
...
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 26, 2024 01:42 PM (5p7BC)

that seems like a red herring. She was in the worst place of all if there were multiple shooters, right at ground zero.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2024 03:19 PM (eoQWY)

398 >>The more that comes out, the more convinced I am that my initial reaction to this was correct: this was an intentional plot by SS and other Deep State rats to murder their chief political rival.

They wanted a bit more than that.

The CIA leak re. Iran indicates they had another War planned.
Posted by: garrett at July 26, 2024 01:21 PM (zKx9/)

Marvellous. Lets pick a fight with ANOTHER continental power that can't be blockaded, to go with Russia and China. This one is mountainous too, so we have even less use for our 70 ton tanks.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 26, 2024 03:24 PM (eoQWY)

399 I think we need shirts so we recognize each other in the wild.
Posted by: Piper

I have a hat that says: "AoS Moron Horde"

Good enough?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 26, 2024 04:00 PM (5Seyi)

400 Who in the world Trained these bunch of screwballs in the first place?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 26, 2024 04:55 PM (wGqjj)

401 8 presumably identical shell casings yet at least 2 different guns. But whatever.

At this point, I don’t believe Crooks even fired a shot.

I think it was ALL Government Assassins.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 27, 2024 03:28 PM (cCgyq)

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