Secret Service Girlboss Kim Cheatle: We Didn't Have Anyone On the Obvious Sniper Position on the Roof Because the Roof Had a "Slope" and It Was Too Dangerous to Our Girlbosses to Send Them Up There!

Kim Cheatle -- who Jill Biden fought to get installed as the Secret Service Girlboss -- told ABC "News" that she decided not to put anyone on the roof, because a Secret Service agent could have fallen and twisted an ankle!

They're not paid to take those kind of extreme risks!

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
NEW: Secret Service director Kim Cheatle, good friend of Jill Biden and the new face of America's competency crisis, didn't post snipers on the roof where Trump was shot at because it was a sloped roof and she was afraid someone might slip and fall.
You can't make this stuff up.

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Unbelievable. Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle now admits that the USSS knew the building 125 yards from President Trump was a huge vulnerability, but didn't station an agent there because it had a "sloped roof."
"That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside."
This is "safetyism" run amok at its absolute worst.
Cheatle shouldn't be trusted with protecting the food court of a shopping mall, let alone the US president. She should resign or be fired IMMEDIATELY.

The mantra of our age is "It gets worse." It's a cliche. But it's true -- it gets worse.

The Security Expert Kim Cheatle did have three counter-snipers inside the building whose roof the sniper used as an obvious, easy sniper's position.

Inside the building? What a perfect place for counter-snipers whose main ability is to shoot at long distances. You know -- outside.

Perfect, Kim! I'm going to nominate you for a DEI = Death award!

Three law enforcement officers were stationed inside the building where a gunman shot former President Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally Saturday.
Two days after the failed assassination attempt, BeaverCountian.com reported that an officer confirmed "there were three counter-snipers" stationed underneath the same roof where the assailant blew off part of President Trump's right ear. Officers notified the "command center" about the threat before the gunman fatally shot a rallygoer and injured three others, including the Republican presidential nominee.
"A Beaver County police officer warned a command center of seeing a man with a rangefinder before former President Donald Trump was shot on Saturday," reported the website. "The officer had also warned the man was scoping out the roof of the building he was stationed in as a counter-sniper, and that the man returned with a backpack before ultimately scaling the building."
According to CBS, law enforcement even took a picture of him before the gunfire.
"Contrary to reports in national news outlets, officers say the building just outside the security perimeter established by Secret Service was in fact occupied by law enforcement," added BeaverCountian.com.
Federalist CEO Sean Davis summed up the situation on X: "Who gave the order to do nothing until after the assassin shot Trump, killed an innocent man on that stage, and fired round after round after round after round?"

Collin Rugg

@CollinRugg
BREAKING: A police counter sn*per team was *inside* the building that Thomas Crooks shot from *during* the sho*ting according to the New York Post.
This just keeps getting more insane.
According to sources who spoke with the Post, Crooks was literally climbing on top of the building where the "watch post" for the sn*pers was located.
"The building, the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania, was being used by local police as a "watch post" for sn*pers to scan for threats as the former president spoke onstage only 130 yards away," the Post reported.
Crooks was reportedly spotted at the building 26 minutes before the incident.

But remember, Kim Cheatle had her eyes on the real priority -- protecting her DEI Retard Squad from slipping off a roof with a vicious, widow-maker "slope."

Just look at this slope! I didn't know angles could be that impossibly steep!

Robby Soave
@robbysoave
Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle, on why they weren't stationed on the roof where the assassin fired from: "That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof."
But... the Secret Service officers who killed the assassin were on a different, sloped roof.
This excuse makes no sense. None whatsoever.

And yet, it gets even worse.

It always gets even worse.

Because Jill Biden's very good friend Kim "Frito Bandito" Cheatle might also be allocating more Secret Service agents to protect Jill Biden at one of her little-attended rallies than the likely next president of the United States:

Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
A key Secret Service resources question that lawmakers need to drill down in their investigations is what type of resource allocation did Secret managers provide between Trump's Butler Rally and a nearby Jill Biden dinner in Pittsburg that night:
I'm told that Secret Service managers signed off on only two counter snipers for the Butler rally. The USSS spokesman has yet to dispute this, although he's readily tried to dispute my assertion that resources were diverted from Trump to Jill Biden.
Bear with me for this scenario because it's important:
I just got off the phone with Bill Gage, a senior security consultant with Safe Haven Security Group who was a Secret Service agent under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama and a lead tactical advance agent for multiple national security events. He told me it is not normal operating procedures to have counter snipers at a first lady dinner held inside a building -- not out of the question, but not usual. It would certainly be unusual to have two two-man counter sniper teams (4 counter snipers altogether) at such a dinner.
If we find out that Jill Biden dinner had more counter snipers and/or a lopsided amount of agents assigned to it compared to Trump's outdoor rally (taking into account the usual number allocated for each type of events) that attracted 50,000 people, then we know that the Secret Service is allocating resources based on an outmoded calculus that a sitting president and a first lady automatically should be given more priority/resources than a former president.

"It's a valid question," Gage told me. "If you research and you find that [Jill Biden] had 30 agents and two CS teams at this dinner, and then you have this event that's outdoors, and they only gave, you know, a skeleton crew, that's definitely a question to ask on who made that decision and why. So it's a valid, valid question." It's not merely a numbers game, though.
Of course it would depend on the normal levels of resources provided to each type of event and the threat level -- and I'm sure you could put a lot of bureaucratic spin on that.
It also depends on if there were any specific recent threats to Jill Biden compared to Trump, but some of this is basic commonsense.
Who doesn't think Trump has more threats than Jill Biden on a regular basis?

Doctor President Jill Biden sure does love the trappings of power that come with the non-job of being First Nursemaid to an invalid.

This is so bad that some people are resorting to suggesting a criminal conspiracy was responsible for the nearly-successful assassination attempt.

I don't believe that, for the usual reason. If you told me that one Secret Service agent had conspired with an assassin, I could consider that possibly a plausible theory, because it's certainly possible that one person is a turncoat ready to conspire to murder a president.

But in this case, we have so many Secret Service agents making baffling decisions that you'd pretty much have to speculate that the entire team, including Kim Cheatle, was part of the plot.

As usual: How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States? Think about the risks you run by merely hinting to someone about such a scheme, in an effort to recruit him.

But Sean Davis thinks it's possible. I report, you decide.

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Nobody wants to hear this because of the implications, but oh well: Joe Biden's security regime deliberately and with malice aforethought created the conditions that led to an assassin shooting Donald Trump in the head. It is by the grace of God that he lived and our nation is not currently in the midst of a violent civil war.
They deliberately starved Trump's security team of the resources it needed. And they did it repeatedly, over many weeks and months.
With Trump's security detail understaffed, under-resourced, and stretched to its limits, Biden's security regime diverted even more resources to a hastily planned Jill Biden event that just happened to be in the area.
Biden's security regime then ordered the most obvious assassination perch in the entire area to remain outside the main security perimeter.
Furthermore, Biden's Secret Service director ordered law enforcement and counter-snipers OFF the roof that the assassin used.
If that weren't enough, Biden's security regime also refused to block line of sight from the assasssin's perch to Trump's location.
When law enforcement radioed in a suspicious person using a laser range finder at the building and even took photos of him, nothing was done to detain the assassin.
The assassin was so obviously a threat that bystanders at the event begged law enforcement to stop him, but nothing happened.
And even as snipers on the roof near Trump saw a gunman on the roof, Biden's security regime refused to have agents immediately surround Trump and remove him from the stage to protect him from being shot.
Given the lies and nonsense from both Biden's DHS secretary and his Secret Service director, it's increasingly difficult to believe this was a just a series of independent mistakes. In contrast, when you look at the entire picture, what you see better resembles a deliberate plan to make Trump vulnerable but to appear at first glance to be just a couple of innocent mistakes.
And when you add in how little information we've been given about the about the shooter--apparently the only person on earth not on the Internet--you begin to wonder if maybe a group of people at a different three-letter agency might have been working on a parallel track to find and encourage people to take action against Trump at the very same time he was kept vulnerable by Biden's regime.
We know this happens, because the FBI did it with Gretchen Whitmer: it recruited and urged disturbed individuals to buy weapons and put together a plan to kidnap her. In that case, the FBI wanted a story it could use to slime right-wingers. So it created the story itself.
What happens when an agency like that, or maybe even another three-letter agency, decides instead that it's had enough of Trump? Some former FBI employees might even call it an "insurance policy."
So who was the shooter talking to in the hours, days, and weeks ahead of the event? Who was he meeting with? Did anyone suggest or nudge or urge him to go to the Trump rally in Butler? Did anyone suggest or point out to him the building he eventually used? Was he told at any time to not worry about security?
The FBI told us almost immediately that while it couldn't open the assassin's phone, it knew he acted alone. That's kind of strange, when you think about it. They told us almost immediately that they identified him by DNA, despite him having no criminal record. They also said they found explosives in his car. Why didn't they just identify him by his plates or registration or next of kin identification? That's pretty weird, too.
At some point you just have to say enough with the lies. We saw what they did with the Russia hoax. We saw the Kavanaugh hoax. We saw the COVID origin hoax. We saw the Ukraine hoax, the stolen election, the J6 op, and then the armed Mar-a-Lago raid and the myriad illegal cases against Trump.
They called him Hitler. They said he was an existential threat. They said he would destroy democracy. They said he was the most dangerous person on earth.
Then the denied him security. The kept the rooftop open. They watched the shooter and did nothing. They kept Trump on that stage. And they didn't do a damn thing until after he had been shot in the head.
And we're all supposed to believe it was just an innocent oopsie?

I think Sean Davis hasn't quite come to grips with the even-more-horrifying theory that explains this: That DEI and leftist subversion has so polluted and poisoned our most vital institutions that this is now the Secret Service working at their peak possible performance.

But I'm posting his theory anyway. I want the Secret Service to know that if they have another "oopsie," or continue sending more snipers to protect Jill Biden at a small indoor event than to protect the Once and Future President at an outdoor event, murder and conspiracy to commit murder charges are in the offing, and reasonable people like me will vote to convict you of murder even if what we really believe you're guilty of is gross negligence and woke incompetence.

At the very least, we will demand everyone involved be impeached and have all of their pension payments cancelled and zeroed out.

A friend writes that the leftwinger Girlboss's political biases contributed to the failure, on a subliminal level:

Again these people legitimately believe that only the right is a threat, or ever dangerous.

The idea that Trump would be targeted was probably both desirable to them in a sense and in other ways utterly inconceivable. The Left has no problem holding competing ideas at the same time.

Educated Hillbilly has some thoughts:

EducatedHillbilly
@RobProvince
No... 125 meters is not a long shot. If you're going to be a shooter that's a free throw. Yes I'm aware a lot of gun owners couldn't hit a 4" plate with 4 tries but I don't care my point stands.
Yes the secret service looked like shit on a stick. Sure they worked hard to get hired. Sure they try. Sure they passed all the tests. Still had a massive failure and looked like hot butter shit and I'm ashamed we as a country look like THAT at a critical moment. And I'm going to rail them harder than Ginger Lynn for that embarrassment of a shit show. And I'm not going to pretend better, bigger more physically qualified people were probably not offered the job for "reasons".
I have eyes.
We are for damn lucky a 20 year old used a garbage rod and choked on mom's spaghetti because the chick in charge of the SS sucks and put the C-team on the biggest target in political history. Only to have body positive diversity hire DUCK OUT OF THE GOD DAMN WAY at the critical moment and then couldn't holster her gun through her fat roll!!! And I'm supposed to be proud of this? I'm supposed to think this was a good and professional operation? This was well planned and organized by the one chick who's one job it is to make sure this doesn't happen?

That's what I'm to accept? That's where we are? That THIS is the best we can do? The best we have? The best protection we can give to the one guy the world all knows is the biggest target in 2024 in politics?
And the after action report we just got was fucking mission accomplished? Really? Everybody in charge just slaps each other on the back, says "good job" and we go back to hoping the next guy uses a Century Arms CETME???

We all make fun of the fat bubbas who can't get to their holster through their gut and thinks he's going to be a super soldier in CW2 The Electric Boogaloo, but I'm supposed to not notice the chicks fupa is maybe an issue in doing her duty as a god damn Secret Service agent?!?

More at the link. Educated Hillbilly also notices that Trump's handpicked prosecutor Jack Smith has men guarding him, not "fat middle aged women" like Kim Cheatle assigned to the Trump detail:

Notice he doesn�t have any short fat middle aged woman guarding him. https://t.co/hOdmc79Ffk
— Educat�dHillbilly� (@RobProvince) July 15, 2024

Kim Cheatle is refusing to resign -- of course. Leftwing girlbosses have no shame, nor any sense of what excellence or merit is. Resigning in shame is for Republicans only.

Her boss, DHS Secretary Mayorkas, who has repeatedly perjured himself insisting that "the border is secure," says he has 100% confidence in Cheatle and her Fox Force Five of chubby, clumsy short women.

What would have to happen for this guy to lose confidence? https://t.co/fsxtxNfkk6
— Brit Hume (@brithume) July 16, 2024

I can�t 🤣 pic.twitter.com/ep5AuGZDD5
— Karli Bonne� 🇺🇸 (@KarluskaP) July 16, 2024

MUST WATCH VIDEO: Listen to Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle explain how much DEI has distracted her and the agency from its mission to protect the president. Cheatle needs to resign and be held accountable. pic.twitter.com/3ticAFWVIL
— @amuse (@amuse) July 14, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:22 PM

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1 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 16, 2024 03:22 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Boldly commenting.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 16, 2024 03:22 PM (Wnv9h)

3 I just looked at photos of the surrounding area. The damn handicapped ramp is steeper than that roof.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 16, 2024 03:22 PM (pohLc)

4 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 16, 2024 03:23 PM (Wnv9h)

5 #HangKimCheeto

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:24 PM (VavZF)

6 She will be "resigned" within the week. Dr. Jill will sacrifice her to save her own skin. The Dems can't force out Biden, but they can force out this person. She will be given a nice pay package to be head of security at another company. She's gone.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 16, 2024 03:24 PM (sX1BW)

7 "Security Expert Kim Cheatle."

Sounds like Rust's "expert" armorer.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (v6JzV)

8 Kim has forgotten the first rule of holes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (dZVON)

9 I predict she'll even get fired by Biden because she said the most stupid thing ever for why the Secret Service failed.

Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (wMRY8)

10 And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside."

And how did that work ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (IyPmt)

11 And I'm going to rail them harder than Ginger Lynn for that embarrassment of a shit show

*snort*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (Wnv9h)

12 Willowed

It's being reported-DHS received Intel on Iranian plot to assassinate Trump not connected with the Wisconsin shooter.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 16, 2024 02:53 PM (NpAcC)

Delay, deflect, deny.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (JRP2U)

13 What percent of roofs don't have a slope?

I must have missed the world famous Secret Service is Only Allowed to Protect Rooftop Gardens rule.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (77JBp)

14 Damn Ace! TL;DR.

Yes or no, should I watch the movie?

Posted by: tbodie Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at July 16, 2024 03:26 PM (c5Itv)

15 That's not sloped

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 16, 2024 03:26 PM (FUHCU)

16 One can't really walk safely on a sloped metal roof in heels. I can see why she refused to let them on it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:26 PM (lTGtQ)

17 It's being reported-DHS received Intel on Iranian plot to assassinate Trump
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Sure they did

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:26 PM (77JBp)

18 And when you add in how little information we've been given about the about the shooter--apparently the only person on earth not on the Internet

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Because he's a tranny.

You know it's true.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at July 16, 2024 03:26 PM (/CRIM)

19 The IED USSS Agent couldn't even re-holster her pistol into an OWB holster. Love to see her reloads and failure drills.... Clown world at it's finest.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (K861k)

20 #HangDOCTORJill

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (VavZF)

21 >>>6 She will be "resigned" within the week. Dr. Jill will sacrifice her to save her own skin. The Dems can't force out Biden, but they can force out this person. She will be given a nice pay package to be head of security at another company. She's gone.

disagree! the left doesn't admit error, ever. Furthermore, if this DEI Girlboss falls, that endangers all the other DEI hires throughout government.

They are going to just force us to accept that DEI means a much lesser standard of service, and make us agree to accept incompetence as racial/gender "justice"

Posted by: ace at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (KRtlO)

22 Better a President be assassinated than one female agent risk injury.

As Insty stated, this is the perfect DEI standard: Pathetic, dishonest and evasive.

It's the roof's fault, never the DEI hires utterly lacking in qualifications or ability.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (pYl7Q)

23 Ya start with the slightly sloped roofs and it's a slippery slope from there.

Posted by: Cheater at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (krQz2)

24 No way she gets fired by Biden though that would be a good move politically. It would also be admitting fault and drawing attention to the whole fucked up operation, and that shit ain't happening in a millennium of Sundays.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (77JBp)

25 We need to ban all books on the tactics of Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington for their terroristic advice on the use of reverse slopes of e.g. ridges in concealment warfare too!

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (wse2C)

26 Damn Ace! TL;DR.

Yes or no, should I watch the movie?

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In sum, "You fucked up, you trusted us."

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (sX1BW)

27 Anyone want to say that they didn't know he wasn't a law enforcement counter sniper?

THEY DON'T WEAR T-SHIRTS AND SHORTS!!!

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (Wt5CP)

28 ~~Genetics~~
~~Medieval Climatology~~
~~Islamic Origins~~
~~Sexual Dimorphism~~
Trigonometry

Posted by: time to edit the textbooks again at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (gKWVE)

29
Disney "News"

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (FlZoV)

30 Girlbossing a little too close to the sun there, Cheatle.

The Bidens don't fire anyone, so she thinks she's safe. But there are so many red flags about how she botched this, that they may have to force her out eventually.

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (Eng1Z)

31 I have seen at least one legal observer say that, based upon just what's known, the Secret Service is--in theory--open to be sued for damages by Trump (and presumably those hit in the crowd and/or their families).

This is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, even if you don't believe they got a "stand down" order of some sort.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (OUMaO)

32 Ace!
Check out this DEI another day meme

https://x.com/WereChihuahua/status/
1813221526486831116

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (FUHCU)

33 Plum Creek got bought by Weyerhauser in 2014.

Largest landowner in the US now.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (ufFY8)

34 The Security Expert Kim Cheatle did have three counter-snipers inside the building whose roof the sniper used as an obvious, easy sniper's position.

Inside the building? What a perfect place for counter-snipe
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Say, you know what's REALLY loud?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (/CRIM)

35 Ace, a red flag nobody's talking about:

Both CNN and BBC were covering this relatively tiny rally. CNN and BBC aren't known for covering even the biggest Trump rallies.

Also the photographer with the ultra high speed camera who just happened to catch the vapor trail -- I'm wondering if he or she meant to catch the assassination. Such timing. Unless it's typical for photogs to use super high speed cameras for campaign speeches. Hell I don't know.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (iRX3h)

36 Intentional or incompetence, all this just makes me think Trump and Vance should never be in the same state at the same time.

Posted by: I identify as a Hippopotamus at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (eXKZU)

37 They are going to just force us to accept that DEI means a much lesser standard of service, and make us agree to accept incompetence as racial/gender "justice"
Posted by: ace at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (KRtlO)

Not only that, a firing is also a pathway to demands for a real investigation and I'm thinking they don't want that. They will conduct an "internal review" and release the findings in 2029.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (77JBp)

38 Why you say "rooftop slope"?

You got problem with rooftop slope?

Posted by: Rooftop Korean at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (f4l+T)

39 That rood is a 3/12 pitch, if that, which means it's essentially flat.

F**k these f**king f****t's straight in their f**king hearts.

This was an Op to kill Trump, period.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (XV/Pl)

40 I said this the other day.

Conservatives have this frankly weird idea that when leftists start suffering the consequences of DEI it will go away.

NO

IT

WON'T

This organization, the Secret Service, serves LITERALLY NO PURPOSE other than to safeguard the lives of the people pushing DEI.

They are willing to corrupt an organization whose only mission is to protect their OWN lives, why do people think that they aren't willing to sacrifice the lives of the peasants to push their DEI nonsense?

Realize where the left is and act accordingly.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (setIA)

41 Corey Mills was interviewed by some ditsy cnn tart…and let’s just say “methinks thou doth protest too much” applies when Mills merely suggested that there was too many failures for this to be random happenstances.

Posted by: Crazy at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (7kR0x)

42 Weren't there local PD snipers posted on the roof of a library in Spokane a few years back, to "defend" it from some local moms who were pissed about a ~~tranny~~ pedo story hour?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (VavZF)

43 disagree! the left doesn't admit error, ever. Furthermore, if this DEI Girlboss falls, that endangers all the other DEI hires throughout government.

They are going to just force us to accept that DEI means a much lesser standard of service, and make us agree to accept incompetence as racial/gender "justice"

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This is why she will be forced out. Better to get her out of the way and minimize this coverage. She stays, she will get grilled, DEI will be under even more scrutiny and it will make all Dems look bad. They have it bad enough with Biden, they don't need to add this to everything else.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (sX1BW)

44 Both CNN and BBC were covering this relatively tiny rally
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Fuck I knew it

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (77JBp)

45 ace, did you see the video of the tranny shooter screaming at the people on the sidewalk about fascists and murdering people?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (/CRIM)

46 OSHA has already issued citations to those officers on the roof for failing to tie off and to install railings to prevent falls.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (pYl7Q)

47 "Of course no sloped roofs. I said NO ASIAN."

-- Hunter Biden

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (iFTx/)

48 I've walked on old sidewalks that had more of a slope than that roof. What B.S.

Posted by: Tuna at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (oaGWv)

49 If the entire DHS is focused on the terrorist Christians and Nationalists, they might overlook a crazed anti fag with a long gun a hundred yards away from the president.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:30 PM (lTGtQ)

50 "That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point.
__________

Unless it's curved or stepped up, wouldn't the slope be the same throughout?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (NsaTj)

51 I'm with Sean. Too many coincidences not to think conspiracy. Things do not align that way without forethought. Just like every decision and policy the Biden junta and the democrat party being detrimental to America and Americans. Law of averages would say at least one thing would go the other direction but no. None of them have or did.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (17s+e)

52 Has anybody asked what Manchin meant by we'll have to wait till after Sunday to see what we do with Biden?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (XV/Pl)

53 @RobProvince is a brilliant prose stylist. Probably lurks here.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (gKWVE)

54 >>> 33 Plum Creek got bought by Weyerhauser in 2014.

Largest landowner in the US now.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 16, 2024 03:28 PM (ufFY

Does Billy Gates own Weyerhauser?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (VavZF)

55 So Cheatle reads the ONT, and gets her ideas from my sockpuppets? I'm both honored and disgusted.

It defies every security protocol ever written that this rooftop was not secured, and law enforcement personnel were not standing up there.
Posted by: andycanuck

Would be hard to imagine anywhere else nearby as a better sniper location.
Posted by: BurtTC

Are you kidding? Watch some Hollywood movies. Snipers always work from flat rooftops. Nobody snipes from a barn.

Posted by: the SS detail, probably at July 13, 2024 11:26 PM (DgGvY)

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (DgGvY)

56 Elon Musk has just announced that due to Governor Gavin Newsom signing AB1955, which bans schools from making rules requiring parental notification if a child identifies as transgender, among other laws, SpaceX will move its headquarters from California to Starbase near Brownsville, Texas.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (xPl2J)

57 Both CNN and BBC were covering this relatively tiny rally. CNN and BBC aren't known for covering even the biggest Trump rallies.

Trump's rally ? It was huge.. I was watching it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (IyPmt)

58 To be fair it was probably also very hot on that roof, which is really super dangerous. So blame global warming and Republicans.

Posted by: Ripley at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (GUOwU)

59 Just look at this slope! I didn't know angles could be that impossibly steep!
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Ahem!

Posted by: Howard Phillips Lovecraft at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (krQz2)

60 If not for the fact Trump could have died (it was so very close) I'd be laughing my ass off at the incompetence and silliness and obvious affirmative action (female hires) failures at what I thought was a highly trained, serious, professional department.

I was wrong.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (JeYYB)

61 Everybody take your Dilantin.

BREAKING NEWS 38 min(s) ago PINNED
Secret Service increased Trump's security recently over intel of Iranian assassination plot

http://alturl.com/hbhxm

Yes, that whole shitshow in Butler PA is with INCREASED security on Trump.

Kitted out to fight Iranian terrorists, they managed to let some rando just walk up, get on top of their lookout, and shoot a President of the United States.

Time to have the Bobs come in for some consulting.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (xhfG9)

62 Fibber on the Roof. Starring Kim Cheatle.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (ewjUl)

63 That's the best lie they could come up with?

Posted by: Eternity Matters at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (DEsbd)

64 The Security Expert Kim Cheatle did have three counter-snipers inside the building whose roof the sniper used as an obvious, easy sniper's position.

"Hey! what's that noise coming from the roof?"
"Probably nothing. Just outgassing"

Posted by: Stormtrooper school of Security at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (uFHA9)

65 My regular morning walk features a hill that has more slope than that roof.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (dZVON)

66
Anthony Cumia took notice of the other girlboss SS, observing her stupid ponytail going whoosh, whoosh like she's at the beach playing volleyball.

And the 3rd ss girlboss worried more about putting her sunglasses on than anything else.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (FlZoV)

67 They are going to just force us to accept that DEI means a much lesser standard of service, and make us agree to accept incompetence as racial/gender "justice"
Posted by: ace

Diversity is our strength, not bridges or critical thinking.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:32 PM (lTGtQ)

68 It always gets worse. We are being gamed by these fucking retards.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 16, 2024 03:33 PM (Aoykm)

69 Why do women want these jobs?

I have known so many people over my lifetime that had a dream to be a fire fighter, and you wouldnt believe how hard those jobs are to land and then I'll see some woman take that job that couldnt carry a bag of groceries.

All of this nonsense that really will get people killed because girls want to feel special?

Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 03:33 PM (wMRY8)

70 TMZ has a crazy video from the rally, of Crooks on the roof while an unknown woman is screaming "Crooks! Get over here! What are you doing?! Crooooks!!"

https://is.gd/0vJhzI

Video at link to "timesnownews".

Dubbed audio like that funny elk video?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:33 PM (iRX3h)

71 I think Sean Davis hasn't quite come to grips with the even-more-horrifying theory that explains this: That DEI and leftist subversion has so polluted and poisoned our most vital institutions that this is now the Secret Service working at their peak possible performance.

On the third hand:

If you wanted to orchestrate conspiracies, staffing everything with incompetents would (a) ensure that no one was around who has the savvy to detect your machinations; (b) and provide a plausible alternative to intentional misdeeds, namely, incompetence. I don't think DEI is incompatible with conspiracy theories at all.

Posted by: guy who's writing a manifesto in bodily fluids at July 16, 2024 03:33 PM (ohEAP)

72 >>>Both CNN and BBC were covering this relatively tiny rally. CNN and BBC aren't known for covering even the biggest Trump rallies.

I think they might have been there because they expected Trump to make his VP announcement.

Posted by: ace at July 16, 2024 03:34 PM (KRtlO)

73 Were CNN and BBC *airing* the rally, or just present.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:34 PM (77JBp)

74 Today's Ashura and I almost missed it. Now I can't find my flail.

Posted by: gp's Messages From Andromeda at July 16, 2024 03:34 PM (LoGNW)

75 I think it's a combo of DIE zealotry and strategic instability.

If you want a system to fail without obvious, deliberate action leading back to you, you place errors into the system that will eventually lead to failure. That way you can claim incompetence of others as an excuse, blame your opponents, and insist that you're the only one that can fix the problem.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 16, 2024 03:34 PM (IG4Id)

76 Is it possible there is a Supreme Incompetence Award in the federal government these people are competing for?

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2024 03:35 PM (JwHpX)

77 Why do women want these jobs?

I have known so many people over my lifetime that had a dream to be a fire fighter, and you wouldnt believe how hard those jobs are to land and then I'll see some woman take that job that couldnt carry a bag of groceries.

-

You pretty much just summed it up.

If they're a nurse or teacher or some other job that women can traditionally perform well for a reason they're expected to work.

When you can't meet the bare minimum qualifications of the job then the men around you will always have to pick up the slack. And you'll be paid the same until your promotion over the men.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at July 16, 2024 03:35 PM (/CRIM)

78 Either a kid 2 years out of high school outsmarted the premier Federal security agency, or it was an inside job. Shit, if I was the SS, I’d be pushing the conspiracy angle just because it makes them look less incompetent.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2024 03:35 PM (cS7lA)

79 Why do women want these jobs?

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Women are known for working incredibly well under the supervision of other women.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 16, 2024 03:35 PM (sX1BW)

80 She's giving new meaning to the term "Slay Queen" IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:35 PM (Wv0Gp)

81 56 Elon Musk has just announced that due to Governor Gavin Newsom signing AB1955, which bans schools from making rules requiring parental notification if a child identifies as transgender, among other laws, SpaceX will move its headquarters from California to Starbase near Brownsville, Texas.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (xPl2J)
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Newsom quickly working on a exit tax for that.

Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 03:35 PM (G0vdT)

82 19 The IED USSS Agent couldn't even re-holster her pistol into an OWB holster. Love to see her reloads and failure drills.... Clown world at it's finest.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (K861k)
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I've taught literally hundreds of women over the years, probably more women than men if I looked up the numbers, in both Basic Pistol and Defensive Pistol classes. Secret Service Barbie couldn't complete a basic task that any one of my students has to be moderately proficient at after only one day of instruction in order to pass a basic class. I'd bet folding money that half of the DEI Debbies in USSS and every other law enforcement agency not only never have to requalify, but were "exempted" from ever qualifying in the first place.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (QdGJh)

83 Brie Larsen's butt has more slope than that roof.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (v6JzV)

84 Secret Service is also trying to pin this on local law enforcement. That might be the only way the truth comes out as these two agencies duke it out.

So we have a federal agency created to protect Presidents from foreign powers assassinating them, but they outsource protection after 100 yards to some local rural police department?

We could get rid of every federal agency tomorrow and nobody would notice.

Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (wMRY8)

85 Coach Bruce 🐂 @OX_DAO
I used to work in military intelligence. My take on the Trump assassination attempt today:

The guilty parties are definitely (1) the counter-sniper(s) and spotter(s) assigned to cover these specific rooftops and (2) the team leader responsible for all event pre-planning and assigning lines of sight

There is a 0% chance that a standard sniper-spotter team tasked with covering such a critical direct LOS rooftop did not spot a man crawling for over two minutes on an exposed rooftop with a rifle. The shooter's approach was amateurish; it wouldn't even pass basic training. He was fully exposed, easily visible to the public, on a critical rooftop, and extremely slow

Drone surveillance is also standard procedure. Added to this, you have members of the public pointing out the shooter. The only reason not to spot this shooter is that it was willfully ignored by the assigned counter-sniper/spotter, or a portion of the total area to be covered was deliberately excluded by the event team leader, or sniper/spotters were misdirected

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (wse2C)

86 So taking a bullet is okey donkey but standing on a sloped roof is a bridge too far.

Posted by: Megthered at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (rwiQP)

87 name field test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (/CRIM)

88 an unknown woman is screaming "Crooks! Get over here! What are you doing?! Crooooks!!"

Those pudgy agents probably just heard "cooks" and got hungry.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (gKWVE)

89 Coach Bruce 🐂 @OX_DAO
Wilful allowance is much more likely. From the video footage and the audible gunfire, it also appears that the designated counter-sniper had the shooter in his LOS but specifically waited until the first few shots were fired before neutralizing him. It was sheer luck that the shooter missed. Civilian incompetence is always the risk when passive facilitation is chosen

TLDR: The shooter was allowed to do it. Inside job
===
I don't know about the conclusion.

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (wse2C)

90 I think AOS Style Guide needs amending.
48 hour rule goes to 96.

The hits just keep on coming.

Posted by: RI Red at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (CTjQI)

91 I'm still not clear on why a photographer was speed-shooting every moment.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (77JBp)

92 >>> 56 Elon Musk has just announced that due to Governor Gavin Newsom signing AB1955, which bans schools from making rules requiring parental notification if a child identifies as transgender, among other laws, SpaceX will move its headquarters from California to Starbase near Brownsville, Texas.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 16, 2024 03:31 PM (xPl2J)

[X] TX rocket industry
[ ] TX shipbuilding industry

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:37 PM (VavZF)

93 >>> She will be given a nice pay package to be head of security at another company. She's gone.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 16, 2024 03:24 PM (sX1BW)

Celebs may hate guns, but they don't play when it comes to their own security and protection. I don't know if they'd hire her or a firm she oversees.

I hear Alec Baldwin's film crew needs a new armorer.

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 03:37 PM (Eng1Z)

94 Blake Hall @Blake_Hall 37m
I was the Sniper Employment Officer for my battalion and led hundreds of combat missions. There were major security lapses in the security plan that allowed a shooter to engage President Trump from ~130 meters - an easy shot. A 🧵

How can the dude at a cookout spot the shooter before the detail?!? The far rooftop is an obvious firing position. Local police should have been deployed to secure it. Additionally, drones should have been monitoring.

There is a sniper team scanning the rooftop for threats. But, the team only has long guns. You generally want a security element co-located with assault rifles that can engage much faster - especially within 300 meters. They couldn’t engage fast enough.

They neutralized the target. But not before he wounded President Trump, killed an innocent civilian, and seriously wounded two more. Good shooting. But gross failures in the plan meant they were too slow to detect the threat. Mission failure.

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:37 PM (wse2C)

95 I need to get me one of them Secret Service Barbies with the easy twist heels for my collection. Put it right next to Math Barbie and Divorce Barbie.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (/HDaX)

96 Ahat about the 2 snipers who put down Crooks? Their roof was much steeper. Man, that's one dumb DEI whoore.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (+sa6h)

97 I don't believe that, for the usual reason. If you told me that one Secret Service agent had conspired with an assassin, I could consider that possibly a plausible theory, because it's certainly possible that one person is a turncoat ready to conspire to murder a president.

Too vast like getting 18 IC folks to lie to the public without contradiction? Or is this vaster?

Too vast like getting all the relevant governmental players to lie to the public about Covid, anti-pandemic measures, and the vaccine? Or is this vaster?

Too vast like rampant pedophilia/pederasty, likely sanctioned by the government for blackmail purposes (a la Epstein)? Or is this vaster?

You don't really need everyone involved to be in on the conspiracy. Lots of people are just cogs that do whatever they're ordered to do.

Posted by: guy who's writing a manifesto in bodily fluids at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (ohEAP)

98 If it's not completely obvious this was meant to take PDJT out to you, I don't know what to tell you. You have a bunch of newbies/dummies on SS detail that aren't in on it, and the small number of people in charge (which btw, who was the agent in charge? why dont we know that?) who absolutely were. Add to that PA cops who are half decent guys and half donut gobblers and there you are.

Sean Davis is right.

I want the Secret Service to know that if they have another "oopsie," or continue sending more snipers to protect Jill Biden at a small indoor event than to protect the Once and Future President at an outdoor event, murder and conspiracy to commit murder charges are in the offing, and reasonable people like me will vote to convict you of murder even if what we really believe you're guilty of is gross negligence and woke incompetence.

I love the thought. But how. HOW.

they get him, it's too late. for all of us.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (s3qiR)

99 Trump's rally ? It was huge.. I was watching it
Posted by: It's me donna

I said "relatively". He's had much bigger rallies at much more significant venues. But BBC and CNN covered this one?

Were they expecting something?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (iRX3h)

100 Imagine not securing a roof that is at a yardage where some people zero their rifles in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (/CRIM)

101 Of course they diverted resources to Dr. Jill. She is for all intensive purposes, the actual President, not the Pedo.

Posted by: Beartooth at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (86Cb3)

102 I'm still not clear on why a photographer was speed-shooting every moment.
Posted by: ...

Newer cameras are very advanced. The still shots are really high speed video.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (IG4Id)

103
I cued it up.

Here's Ant Cumia's observations on the girbosses:

https://youtu.be/QKHSOWJ67xM?si=9wwcoB1FON8q2Fnp&t=3782

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (FlZoV)

104 First responders of all types should be shaped like a fire plug. Doesn't help on a sloped roof, though.

Posted by: Chubby Chaser at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (V5BDR)

105 The top photo has 4 guys on the roof with the deceased shooter. Two uniformed police officers (one is kneling) and two guys in camo and D-boy helmets with NODS.

I am guessing the camo guys are the local "snipers" (in quotes because they are carrying M4 carbines) who were in the building as they would have obviously been close. They COULD be Crisis Action Team (CAT) because they seem outfitted like the CAT guys on the stage after the shooting.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (xhfG9)

106 Were they expecting something?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (iRX3h)

His VP pick maybe

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (IyPmt)

107 Ms. Cheadle has THE most important qualification of all: she is NETWORKED.

She CANNOT be fired and replaced by someone who, you know, rose through the ranks of the USSS.

Leave her alone.

Posted by: Americans at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (Nt9p1)

108 Someone is pointing out that all the men from the rally were US marshals not US Secret Service and last night all the men were wearing US Marshall badges and they were not US Secret Service link to the pictures
https://tinyurl.com/msycbcbk

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (FCrpy)

109 I'm not saying that DHS organized the attempted assassination, but I am saying they allowed it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (lTGtQ)

110 56 Elon Musk has just announced that due to Governor Gavin Newsom signing AB1955, which bans schools from making rules requiring parental notification if a child identifies as transgender, among other laws, SpaceX will move its headquarters from California to Starbase near Brownsville, Texas.
Posted by: Mark1971

Why is he so transphobic!!!!! I'm quitting X for good this time!

Posted by: AWFLs everywhere at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (JCZqz)

111 Trump is just fine with his core group, and watching all the armchair warriors call the Secret Service fat is comical.

Look, this was a straight up conspiracy by the POTUS to murder a rival, and now he's only sorry it failed. Tough. It would be nice if President Trump got the resources to pay for adequate protection as a political candidate, but when that's a major consideration your country has much bigger problems coming down the line.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (AKKkq)

112 A $300 drone bought at Costco could have effectively monitored the area. You would think it would just be standard procedure at every event like this.

Roofers have these now to use on the job, but Secret Service doesn't ?

Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (wMRY8)

113 >>> 91 I'm still not clear on why a photographer was speed-shooting every moment.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:36 PM (77JBp)

I don't think the photog was doing continuous high-speed stop-motion pictures. There's been some commentary that decent news equipment could get the 'streak' picture. The video of the 'woman behind the stage seemingly waiting for something to happen' seems more odd to me right now, but that could change.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (VavZF)

114 This is "safetyism" run amok at its absolute worst.

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They could have simply worn masks to stay safe!

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (ZoxPj)

115 Ahat about the 2 snipers who put down Crooks? Their roof was much steeper.

--

Yeah, that one guy nearest to the camera almost fell off when the shooting started.

Wait, nevermind. That's probably not what we were supposed to notice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (/CRIM)

116 Former president ??? He is a presidential candidate. WTAF?

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (V13WU)

117 She is a idiot, that roof pitch is less than 1 foot drop in 4 lineal feet

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (fwDg9)

118 Were CNN and BBC *airing* the rally, or just present.
Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:34 PM

Not sure.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (iRX3h)

119 One could slip on that metal roof material and get a nasty rug burn.

Posted by: 13times at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (r4YhQ)

120 Newer cameras are very advanced. The still shots are really high speed video.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (IG4Id)

Fair enough. My camera is unfortunately 10 years old!

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (77JBp)

121 What if the were issues some sort of sloped shoes? Same angle as the roof. Then it’s flat to them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (cS7lA)

122 91 I'm still not clear on why a photographer was speed-shooting every moment.

exactly

and the BBC/CNN coverage

COME ON

wake the F up! this is in Pennsylvania! CORRUPT

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (s3qiR)

123 99 Trump's rally ? It was huge.. I was watching it
Posted by: It's me donna

I said "relatively". He's had much bigger rallies at much more significant venues. But BBC and CNN covered this one?

Were they expecting something?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (iRX3h

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First since the debate, first in a couple of weeks, and in swing state PA.

If the BBC didn't have reporters at previous events, it might call into question, but these news organizations keep people on the beat all the time.

It's just that this time the event was more newsworthy than, "Trump says mean things."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

124 This sounds really bogus, and I would not be surprised to see a totally different set of excuses over the next several days. Maybe she should have referenced climate change?

Posted by: Isophorone at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (42qwK)

125 Oh, you know why so many are swallowing the vile lie that this was staged?

Think about the fact that for 60 f'ing years since Kennedy, all the media and the government have ever reported was that 100% of all political violence comes from the Right.
And that the Left never, ever retaliates.
It's literally impossible to know of leftist political violence.
"Mostly peaceful protests"
In that stew of lies, it makes no sense whatsoever that anyone (but a conservative) would attack Trump.
Thus, it was staged.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (pYl7Q)

126 117 She is a idiot, that roof pitch is less than 1 foot drop in 4 lineal feet

but some of those ladies had high heels on

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (s3qiR)

127 "US authorities obtained intelligence from a human source in recent weeks on a plot by Iran to try to assassinate Donald Trump, a development that led to the Secret Service increasing security around the former president in recent weeks, multiple people briefed on the matter told CNN."

.. so they implemented the PACMAN defensive zone technique

Posted by: SMOD at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (RHGPo)

128
The ponytailed girl...whoosh...whoosh as she's "protecting" the president.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (FlZoV)

129
Just look at this slope! I didn't know angles could be that impossibly steep!

Good G*d Almighty! That is steeper than the South Col route to the top of Mt. Everest!

And far more slippery!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (1CG4q)

130 @91

>>I'm still not clear on why a photographer was speed-shooting every moment.

Because as a film journalist, you never know when you are going to capture an iconic shot, and you shoot as many shots as you can so don't miss THE SHOT.

Basically, the guy captured the photo of the century, it will live on after him.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (XV/Pl)

131 Even *I've* banged more slope than that roof!

Posted by: Hunter at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (iRX3h)

132 It's not really a conspiracy. If everyone involved in making every decision from top to bottom does not prioritize a certain VIP's safety, it'll work out looking a lot like a conspiracy if you were to follow every link in the chain of causation, when it's really just a general gleichschaltung bearing fruit organically and spontaneously.

It's not a conspiracy. It's hundreds of thousands of potential conspiracies that may or may not materialize based on random chance.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (1UI5n)

133 >>> Posted by: guy who's writing a manifesto in bodily fluids at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (ohEAP)

How many people did it take to have a water leak in an Atlanta toilet shut down vote counting in six, no seven states all the fck at once?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (VavZF)

134 And none of this matters because officers had eyes on the shooter for 26 minutes.

KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK
"Hey guys, is this armed lady on the roof in shorts and a t-shirt with y'all?"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (/CRIM)

135 Trump is just fine with his core group, and watching all the armchair warriors call the Secret Service fat is comical.
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I didn't realize you had to be fit to criticize unfit people in positions that require fitness. Learn something new every day!

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (77JBp)

136 Twitter or X is leaving Cali as well

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (FCrpy)

137 Because Jill Biden's very good friend Kim "Frito Bandito" Cheatle

==

ROTFL, boss !

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (V13WU)

138 And after the election? He wins and some mook takes him out when he's taking the oath?

They're not done yet

Posted by: M. Gaga at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (e/nKX)

139 That's the best lie they could come up with?

Cheatle said she wasn’t waiting for an independent investigation. They’ll keep sending up trial balloons until they settle on the most plausible lie.

Posted by: Unkaren at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (2nlEB)

140

So a half hour?

What if Don Cheatle was made aware and she texted her nasty lesbian buddy Jill Alice Cooper Biden about it?

Is that plausible. Yes. It’s more than enough time for the upper leadership to be informed.

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (mzXlG)

141 This Kim Cheatle crypt keeping alley hag is gonna get thrown under the bus. I feel it coming. They can't hide a monumental fuck-up so monumental it looks like deliberate malfeasance. No, they won't fire her. They are right now negotiating an exit strategy for her. I'll bet money on it. They need this story to go away . . . FAST.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

142 130 Because as a film journalist, you never know when you are going to capture an iconic shot, and you shoot as many shots as you can so don't miss THE SHOT.

Basically, the guy captured the photo of the century, it will live on after him.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (XV/Pl)

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1. With mini SD cards, cameras have effectively infinite storage. Okay, not infinite, but for a 2 hour event, effectively infinite. Just keep shooting.

2. It wasn't even the picture of that day. That's how epic the other shot was.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

143 She's made it past the glass ceiling, only to be foiled by the lightly pitched roof

Posted by: Rex B at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (A4itf)

144 For those on X (formerly Twitter) this is a post from Sean Parnell:

http://alturl.com/z22si

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (xhfG9)

145 double zinger !

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (V13WU)

146 101 Of course they diverted resources to Dr. Jill. She is for all intensive purposes, the actual President, not the Pedo.
_____

Agree with your post. Minor nit-pick though. I thought the phrase was "all in tents and purposes", YMMV

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (fs1hN)

147 It's sounding more and more like, while they didn't participate in the assassination attempt, they allowed it to happen

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (IyPmt)

148 A $300 drone bought at Costco could have effectively monitored the area. You would think it would just be standard procedure at every event like this.

Roofers have these now to use on the job, but Secret Service doesn't ?

Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM (wMRY

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They've all been deployed to monitor Hunter's cocaine distribution network, F. Joe's hair plugs erosion, and Dr. Jill's late-night trysts with Alex Soros.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (NTS63)

149 143 She's made it past the glass ceiling, only to be foiled by the lightly pitched roof
Posted by: Rex B at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (A4itf)

That's gonna leave a mark

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (xhfG9)

150 Trump is just fine with his core group, and watching all the armchair warriors call the Secret Service fat is comical.

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You don't get to choose your adjectives.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (/CRIM)

151 Cheetos is a typical AWFL

AWFLs will never, not in this life or even when they get buttfucked by McCain's shriveled strapon dildo in hell

ever admit that they were wrong

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (DBZuM)

152 So the building the sniper shot from was filled with Secret Service snipers and others? I would love to see a video of what was actually going on inside that building. Probably a party like festive atmosphere with a lot of coffee drinking, joke telling, clowning around, "break dancing" is my guess. Everything but actually performing their jobs.

Posted by: JTSmith at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (FxdZx)

153 I'm fine with the speed shot then, and also fine if BBC and CNN were merely present and not airing it. They have intentionally not aired his rallies for years.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:44 PM (77JBp)

154

Also, who told the media what the pr response would be? They were all coordinated yet again.

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at July 16, 2024 03:44 PM (mzXlG)

155 They had nobody on the water tower overlooking the rally, I do not understand how no one’s fired or resigned

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:44 PM (FCrpy)

156 AWFLs will never, not in this life or even when they get buttfucked by McCain's shriveled strapon dildo in hell

ever admit that they were wrong

correct there was a song about this

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:44 PM (s3qiR)

157 Can’t wait for the next first, trans-agent to be featured in Redbook Magazine!

Posted by: Unkaren at July 16, 2024 03:44 PM (2nlEB)

158
I don't think that 26 minutes is true.

I believe it was less than 3 minutes from the citizens first trying to alert security to shots fired.

Still, way too long for Trump not being removed from the stage immediately upon report of an "unknown" on the roof, which should be their first priority before doing anything else.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (FlZoV)

159 Fibber on the Roof. Starring Kim Cheatle.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (Wt5CP)

160 136 Twitter or X is leaving Cali as well
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (FCrpy)
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Patience grasshopper.

Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (G0vdT)

161 I don't know if she was flat out lying, but I'm inclined not to believe her. Does someone have a different slant on this?

I guess she's being shingled out because she's the Director.

Posted by: muldoon at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (uCfKO)

162 @142

>>It wasn't even the picture of that day. That's how epic the other shot was.

Those two shots combined should be in future history books of the 21st Century.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (XV/Pl)

163 Jill Biden is the queen of AWFLs.

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (V13WU)

164 I love the thought. But how. HOW.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (s3qiR)

No idea. Game's over, boys, the British are coming.

If anything, I'm worried that we still rely on corrupt judges for "justice."

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (AKKkq)

165 http://alturl.com/z22si

omg blaster

see what I mean! that was the perfect spot to KILL HIM

it was a set up!

Jesus thank you Lord. he turned his head.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (s3qiR)

166 144 For those on X (formerly Twitter) this is a post from Sean Parnell:

http://alturl.com/z22si

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (xhfG9)

Yikes

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (IyPmt)

167 MAYORKAS: "I have 100% confidence in the director of the United States Secret Service. I have 100% confidence in the United States Secret Service."

"They are there to protect Democrats, and only Democrats. They are doing the job we hired them to do."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (rx/UX)

168 I'm still not clear on why a photographer was speed-shooting every moment.

Because as a film journalist, you never know when you are going to capture an iconic shot, and you shoot as many shots as you can so don't miss THE SHOT.

Basically, the guy captured the photo of the century, it will live on after him.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:41 PM (XV/Pl)
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Photogs do this at every major event. They shoot video constantly at very high frame rates so the individual frames of the video aren't blurred by motion and can stand on their own as still shots. That's how most still pictures are shot. They aren't "oh here's a good shot, let me take it [snaps pic]." They are culled from rapid-fire video.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (iFTx/)

169 >>> 143 She's made it past the glass ceiling, only to be foiled by the lightly pitched roof
Posted by: Rex B at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (A4itf)

LOL

Can we put Hillary! up there with her?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (VavZF)

170 It's sounding more and more like, while they didn't participate in the assassination attempt, they allowed it to happen

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (IyPmt)

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We prefer to call it "Passive Resistance" and "Leading From Behind."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (NTS63)

171 Maybe she should have referenced climate change?
Posted by: Isophorone at July 16, 2024 03:40 PM (42qwK)

It's worth a shot.

Ooh, I should probably phrase that differently.

Posted by: Kim Cheatle at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (xhfG9)

172 @152

>>Probably a party like festive atmosphere with a lot of coffee drinking, joke telling, clowning around, "break dancing" is my guess. Everything but actually performing their jobs.

You know there was a Donkey Show and midget prostitutes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (XV/Pl)

173 Were they expecting something?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:38 PM (iRX3h)

His VP pick maybe
Posted by: It's me donna

Ah, valid point I hadn't considered.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (iRX3h)

174 If the DEIirector does get fired she can just hang a shingle as a private contractor or consultant.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (/CRIM)

175 121 What if the were issues some sort of sloped shoes? Same angle as the roof. Then it’s flat to them.

Coming soon to a theater near you-- a suspenseful, pulse-pounding story of snipers, roofs, counter-snipers, and the very finest in shoe technology:

OPERATION SIDE-HILL HIDE-BEHIND

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (1Idb6)

176 Someone told me they were airing the rally on Fox. Does Fox usually air them? They had stopped for a while too.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (77JBp)

177 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.

Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (G0vdT)

178
OSHA has already issued citations to those officers on the roof for failing to tie off and to install railings to prevent falls.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

OSHA cowboy

https://tinyurl.com/ycyrkc89

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (63Dwl)

179 Thought it was "all incense and porpoises", although I don't know how porpoises smell.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (gKWVE)

180 177 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.
Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (G0vdT)

Cops shot someone

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (IyPmt)

181 I think we are going to find out that only like two of these guys on scene are actual Secret Service (the two guys who actually knew what the fuck they were doing) and everyone else is a stand in with a suit and sunglasses on from the County.

Doesn't avoid the question of "why were there only two real agents there"

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (5C4od)

182 177 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.

oh great

that is also a hot mess with Milwaukee allowing protestors way, way too close to the venue

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (s3qiR)

183 1. With mini SD cards, cameras have effectively infinite storage. Okay, not infinite, but for a 2 hour event, effectively infinite. Just keep shooting.

2. It wasn't even the picture of that day. That's how epic the other shot was.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024

We just did a Tauck Bridges river cruise and I put a GoPro Windows mount and a 1tb mini sd card and recorded the scenery

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (FCrpy)

184 Does someone have a different slant on this? I guess she's being shingled out because she's the Director.

***************

Are you all huffed up on roofies?

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (DBZuM)

185 >>It wasn't even the picture of that day. That's how epic the other shot was.

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Is it true the epic photo of bloody Trump raising his fist under the American flag that some outlets photoshopped the flag out of the photo when publishing? If so, I hope the photographer sues.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (fs1hN)

186 Agree with your post. Minor nit-pick though. I thought the phrase was "all in tents and purposes", YMMV
Posted by: Chuck Martel

"all intents and purposes"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (v6JzV)

187 20 mins sounds right. I read stories that the LE were watching him, while he, you know, used a rangefinder, then walked around prepping and stuff.

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (V13WU)

188 This is what you get with DIE personal, average at best, just filling out the DIE requirements at worse

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (fwDg9)

189 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.

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Everyone figured out why the left kept chanting "recreate '68" yet?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (/CRIM)

190 So,, you're telling me a random 20 year old just happens to stumble upon a building a hundred yards from the stage with a clear line of sight, which somehow was not being surveilled at the time, and which was occupied by a sniper team, grabs his ladder and gun, climbs up, crawls up the roof, and gets off three shots. That took 20 minutes.

And, the kid lives an hour away, but managed to find out the building was accessible, and to do all this by himself.

Seriously, that is your story?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (lTGtQ)

191 In a thriller movie, the angle and timing of the shots wouldn't quite match up with the odd kid on the roof, who was used with or without his knowledge as a distraction and a fall guy. The real shooter would have been farther back and told to take one shot and vacate as there would be no good cover if he was killed or taken. The good sniper missed cause the President moved. That's how the movie would go.

Posted by: Movie buff at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (cvwZL)

192 Kim it always helps to ask people to clap when you're talking!

Posted by: JEB! at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (Y8lzz)

193 For those on X (formerly Twitter) this is a post from Sean Parnell:

http://alturl.com/z22si

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (xhfG9)

Yikes
Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (IyPmt)

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That is RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (DRSnL)

194 so right so they officially nominated Trump AND Vance yesterday, which is not usual, they crammed both in.

why, do you think?

because they know full well the Left is NOT going to stop trying to do murder

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (s3qiR)

195 8 Kim has forgotten the first rule of holes.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 16, 2024 03:25 PM (dZVON)

Except she’s not even digging her own holes.
The hole was already there after she told somebody to dig it.
Now she’s just laying down in the hole she took credit for, and using it as a foxhole to cover her own ass under return fire.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (6ydKt)

196 >>> 167 MAYORKAS: "I have 100% confidence in the director of the United States Secret Service. I have 100% confidence in the United States Secret Service."

"They are there to protect Democrats, and only Democrats. They are doing the job we hired them to do."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (rx/UX)

#HangMayorkas

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (VavZF)

197 I don't understand how the head of SS is still employed, either. She was supposed to get them a body.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (77JBp)

198 So,, you're telling me a random 20 year old just happens to stumble upon a building a hundred yards from the stage with a clear line of sight, which somehow was not being surveilled at the time, and which was occupied by a sniper team, grabs his ladder and gun, climbs up, crawls up the roof, and gets off three shots. That took 20 minutes.

And, the kid lives an hour away, but managed to find out the building was accessible, and to do all this by himself.

Seriously, that is your story?

Posted by: Thomas Paine

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This should be on the sidebar

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (/CRIM)

199 There should never have been a female SS agent. Ever.
... let alone a SS Department/Agency Head.

Sorry.

Women are made for things and neither of those are it.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 03:49 PM (LL0dp)

200 180 177 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.
Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (G0vdT)

Cops shot someone
Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (IyPmt)
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Local news report says it was Ohio Police officer. Maybe just local crime situation.

Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (G0vdT)

201 This is on a par with "Epstein did not kill himself" now.

1) Secret Service head insisted upon by Jill Biden
2) Jill Biden gives a talk the same day - Secret Service diverted to her event from Trump's. Supposedly others are taking time off because they are "exhausted" (does anybody really buy that?)
3) So Trump's detail is compromised - less then 5 from the usual detail are there.
4) Shooter is Antifa - the militant arm of the Dem party.
5) Shooter is spotted - at the most obvious sniper perch possible - and reported, but the security detail does nothing.
6) Apparently, counter-snipers wouldn't fire until after the sniper shot first. A recipe for getting your protectee dead.

So how is this not the Dem establishment attempting to assassinate Trump - not just some unbalanced youth?

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (hOOi9)

202 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.

I mean, it is Milwaukee.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (Y8lzz)

203 Boffo post, Ace. Those videos, omg, those videos.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (14URa)

204 For those on X (formerly Twitter) this is a post from Sean Parnell:

http://alturl.com/z22si

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (xhfG9)

Yikes
Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (IyPmt)
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I think that's shot using a telephoto lens so it makes the background look closer, but still. That roof was an obvious security risk even if it was further away than it looks in this photo.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (iFTx/)

205 So the assassin had so much time that he could whip out a rangefinder to judge the bullet drop to the stage?

Where does a dishwasher at a nursing home get the cash for that? Using a rangefinder properly requires time and experience to use it effectively. He could dope wind speed from the flag, a rangefinder for exact distance. He's a trained operator.

I watched an interview of one of the assassin's high school classmates. The classmate said that the assassin was constantly bullied at school, and I thought while hearing that, that being bullied in high school would make that kid a prime candidate for recruitment by not nice people.

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (rj6Yv)

206 191 In a thriller movie, the angle and timing of the shots wouldn't quite match up with the odd kid on the roof, who was used with or without his knowledge as a distraction and a fall guy. The real shooter would have been farther back and told to take one shot and vacate as there would be no good cover if he was killed or taken. The good sniper missed cause the President moved. That's how the movie would go.

that's how it went, I think.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (s3qiR)

207 42

1. With mini SD cards, cameras have effectively infinite storage. Okay, not infinite, but for a 2 hour event, effectively infinite. Just keep shooting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)
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I was a news photographer in the days of yore (film), and digital would have been so great. I only ever covered one almost-Prezzy event (candidate Clinton at a fair in 1992) and that took 8 or 10 rolls of film. With digital, just set it to "continuous" and pretty much keep the hammer down the whole time. It's the same reason why wedding photographers have largely ceased to exist for regular-income folks. Cousin Bubba can take 15000 pics with his digital camera, and he's bound to get some good ones.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (QdGJh)

208 You don't get to choose your adjectives.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:43 PM (/CRIM)

You can certainly shape them. Anyways, you know what's up? I guarantee Trump threw, or will throw, one hell of a bash for his core team while quietly asking everyone to write up the whole event from start to end.

The fat and slow are going to get guard duty, which is still a nice gif, while the ones who were on top of things are going to get a major bonus. That's how you reward escaping the JFK special.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (AKKkq)

209 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.

Posted by: WisRich

Outside the security zone is downtown Milwaukee. That could be a daily occurrence.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (lTGtQ)

210 1. With mini SD cards, cameras have effectively infinite storage. Okay, not infinite, but for a 2 hour event, effectively infinite. Just keep shooting.

2. It wasn't even the picture of that day. That's how epic the other shot was.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

512 GB for $70 at amazon.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (Wt5CP)

211 MAYORKAS: "I have 100% confidence in the director of the United States Secret Service. I have 100% confidence in the United States Secret Service."

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And "The border is closed and secure."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (NTS63)

212 What if the were issues some sort of sloped shoes? Same angle as the roof. Then it’s flat to them.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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I had a pair of those in the 70s.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (NsaTj)

213 >>> 161 I don't know if she was flat out lying, but I'm inclined not to believe her. Does someone have a different slant on this?

I guess she's being shingled out because she's the Director.
Posted by: muldoon at July 16, 2024 03:45 PM (uCfKO)

Her lies are going to push me over the edge.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (VavZF)

214 Top House Democrat and the lead voice of the Russia collusion hoax, Rep. Adam Schiff, told donors that he fears if President Biden remains in the race, it will not only cost the Democrats the presidency but also the House and Senate.

.. even a stopped clock is right twice a day

Posted by: SMOD at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (RHGPo)

215

Rooftop Slope. Racist!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (x0n13)

216 I don't know if she was flat out lying, but I'm inclined not to believe her. Does someone have a different slant on this?

I guess she's being shingled out because she's the Director.
Posted by: muldoon

I know this is going to reduce people's truss in the government.

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (DgGvY)

217 112 A $300 drone bought at Costco could have effectively monitored the area. You would think it would just be standard procedure at every event like this.

Roofers have these now to use on the job, but Secret Service doesn't ?
Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 03:39 PM

The cowboys I know use drones to check cattle, I'm shocked a bunch of country hicks are more up to date with equipment than the USSS.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (6IAhu)

218 Seriously, that is your story?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (lTGtQ)

Media was saying he was a Lone Wolf 5 mins after it happened. FBI has already entered the news reports as evidence in the investigation.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (cS7lA)

219 You can certainly shape them. Anyways, you know what's up? I guarantee Trump threw, or will throw, one hell of a bash for his core team while quietly asking everyone to write up the whole event from start to end.

The fat and slow are going to get guard duty, which is still a nice gif, while the ones who were on top of things are going to get a major bonus. That's how you reward escaping the JFK special.
Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire

--

Did you see the "Wage gap" meme?

I'll try to find it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (/CRIM)

220 Pretty convincing case.

The jury finds them guilty, guilty, very fucking guilty.

Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (9wkhT)

221 With everything else what gets me here is that some rando found out about this rally a few days beforehand, spent a couple of days building a bomb, going to the range, and buying a ladder, then just drives up to some place 40 miles away figuring that he could just climb up somewhere and shoot.

This is the easiest and shittiest plan ever - and even with the most sophisticated VIP protection organization in the world - it worked.

Posted by: Kim Cheatle at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (xhfG9)

222 MAYORKAS: "I have 100% confidence in the director of the United States Secret Service. I have 100% confidence in the United States Secret Service."

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Pallets of Fritos nationwide hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (NTS63)

223 We've reached the point with stuff like this where the 48 hour rule means the initial reporting under played just how bad it actually was.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (tT6L1)

224 210 512 GB for $70 at amazon.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (Wt5CP)

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And photogs at that level will have a bunch with them.

8K pictures for days.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

225 Thought it was "all incense and porpoises", although I don't know how porpoises smell.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 16, 2024 03:47 PM (gKWVE)
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With their noses. Geez.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (3Fz6p)

226 They could have got some nice aquarium shoes.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (77JBp)

227 >>> The Security Expert Kim Cheatle did have three counter-snipers inside the building whose roof the sniper used as an obvious, easy sniper's position. Inside the building? What a perfect place for counter-snipe

Clearly she thought the building worked according to Fortnite rules. Get a sniper position in the building. Sense a shooter on the roof above you? Just bust the roof, knock them down into your space, and shoot them dead! Problem solved.

She should have done the rally's battle royale mode in build mode, she could have built platforms on top of the sloped roof. Another problem solved.

(That does give me a thought...has anyone used Minecraft or Fortnite creative modes to recreate the rally scene yet? It sounds macabre. But there's a really good D-Day recreation game in Fortnite. It's been done before.)

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (Eng1Z)

228 Off DEI powered sock.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (xhfG9)

229 >>Rooftop Slope. Racist!!!!!

How do those Koreans DO IT!?

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (LL0dp)

230 >>>
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Photogs do this at every major event. They shoot video constantly at very high frame rates so the individual frames of the video aren't blurred by motion and can stand on their own as still shots. That's how most still pictures are shot. They aren't "oh here's a good shot, let me take it [snaps pic]." They are culled from rapid-fire video.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:46 PM (iFTx/)

D'OH!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (VavZF)

231 DC_Draino @DC_Draino Jul 15
Remember when Secret Service agents were so frustrated at DEI policies infecting their organization and lowering standards that they started an internal petition?

Yeah that was just 2 months ago and now Trump gets shot in the ear

USSS needs a MAJOR overhaul

DC_Draino @DC_Draino
Check this infuriating 🧵about Secret Service incompetence:

-Trump had temporary USSS agents for the PA rally

-would normally have 3 sniper teams but only had 1

-sniper team only had 1 day to prep (usually need multiple)

-more USSS resources were diverted to Jill Biden

Susan Crabtree @susancrabtree 19h
My latest compilation of reporting: GOP Was Investigating Secret Service Before Assassination Attempt | RealClearPolitics realclearpolitics.com

https://tinyurl.com/4xk8uahz
whole thread as normal webpage

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (wse2C)

232 I can’t believe this is true. They are saying that the shooter carried a ladder 1 mile from his home to the rally

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (FCrpy)

233 The have plenty of incompetence, but the willingness to leave Trump at great risk is not part of it. They knew the risk, had men on other sloped roofs, had people inside the building that was used instead of outside (where they could have observed someone climbing on the roof).

"The System Worked" Janet Nepolitano said. Cheatle seems to be bragging the same way. But there does seem to be clear intent, imo. How they got this particular "Republican" to go to that spot with a rifle, where he took his sweet time to shoot ... idk, but CIA has the means and methods in their toolbox.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (Cus5s)

234 "all intents and purposes"
____

Hah! that doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (fs1hN)

235 m'uh sloped roof
(yea, it's a pitch)

Posted by: Big Star at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (Modkf)

236 "The assassin was so obviously a threat that bystanders at the event begged law enforcement to stop him, but nothing happened."

A Hot Tip that I need to follow myself beginning today -
ALWAYS carry a LOUD survival whistle on you and one in your vehicles. If one or more of the persons at the rally who spotted the scumbag had blown survival whistles it may have gotten more and faster attention than yelling at cops nearby.

May have made the counter-sniper teams and the SS team on-stage ask WTF? Might have awakened the armed sniper team sitting in comfort directly below the scumbag.

Also good for emergencies in parking lots and on streets, and in and outside around your home if you suffer a bad accident and cell phone is out of reach. Get plastic ones - metal may burn or freeze to your lips.

Posted by: Gref at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (5fDan)

237 You really wouldn't need that many people on it. Somebody to recruit and tip the kid, a couple somebodies to ignore him until he fired and then immediately engage to shut him up. I don't think it's a coincidence that an inexperienced shooter was allowed to get basically as close as he could to give him the best chance at pulling it off.

They want Trump dead. There's no way around it, and they would have been perfectly willing to take the flak from the security lapses as long as it worked.

They framed him, spied on him, harassed him, impeached him, rigged an election, impeached him again, and then within three days of his reelection announcement in 2022: Jack Smith was appointed, Colangelo resigned DOJ to go work for Bragg, and Nathan Wade was in the White House.

Lawfare didn't work, the Biden "sharp as a tack" hoax fell apart, and this was the last option to take him out before he could name a successor.

Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 03:52 PM (L+5ng)

238 189 I'm hearing about a Shooting outside RNC security zone just now.

Could just be normal Milwaukee, doesn't HAVE to be political at all

Posted by: Former resident at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (cvwZL)

239 For those on X (formerly Twitter) this is a post from Sean Parnell:

http://alturl.com/z22si

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (xhfG9)

Holy fuckballs.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (14URa)

240 Intel of a coming Iranian plot, yet no one said let's wait and find out if the Iranians are involved?

🤔

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (77JBp)

241 So,, you're telling me a random 20 year old just happens to stumble upon a building a hundred yards from the stage with a clear line of sight, which somehow was not being surveilled at the time, and which was occupied by a sniper team, grabs his ladder and gun, climbs up, crawls up the roof, and gets off three shots. That took 20 minutes.

And, the kid lives an hour away, but managed to find out the building was accessible, and to do all this by himself.

Seriously, that is your story?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 03:48 PM (lTGtQ)
_________

I said from Day One that this was no lone wolf. I agree with you that the facts leave almost no room for any other conclusion other than there were others involved in the assassination plot.

I strongly suspect this was an FBI entrapment plot. Do I think the FBI would murder their main political opponent? You're goddamn right I do.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

242 I don't know if she was flat out lying, but I'm inclined not to believe her. Does someone have a different slant on this?

I guess she's being shingled out because she's the Director.
Posted by: muldoon

Her lies are going to push me over the edge.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Proof that the "modified limited overhang" never works.

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (DgGvY)

243
Should Trump be elected I have no doubt she chains herself to her desk and declares she can't be fired.

Posted by: Auspex at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (j4U/Z)

244 So,, you're telling me a random 20 year old just happens to stumble upon a building a hundred yards from the stage with a clear line of sight, which somehow was not being surveilled at the time, and which was occupied by a sniper team, grabs his ladder and gun, climbs up, crawls up the roof, and gets off three shots. That took 20 minutes.

And, the kid lives an hour away, but managed to find out the building was accessible, and to do all this by himself.

Seriously, that is your story?

Posted by: Thomas Paine

Yes.

Who was identified by DNA. That they just immediately had on hand.

It all tracks, citizen.

Posted by: guy who's writing a manifesto in bodily fluids at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (ohEAP)

245

Secret Cervix or Service?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (x0n13)

246 211 MAYORKAS: "I have 100% confidence in the director of the United States Secret Service. I have 100% confidence in the United States Secret Service."

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And "The border is closed and secure."
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (NTS63)

Literally one job to do and it was done by Trump miraculously turning his head.

But hey, let's award points because it was only an attempted assassination that saw a presidential candidate get shot.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (KbCG3)

247 241 I strongly suspect this was an FBI entrapment plot. Do I think the FBI would murder their main political opponent? You're goddamn right I do.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

========

When you strike at the king, you best not miss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

248
The local 1093 Assassins Snipers Union said the slope or pitch of the roof was not a problem for them.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (+oR7L)

249 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 14h
Why on earth is the House GOP allowing the Secret Service and FBI to investigate themselves?!

We need a special committee

The FBI spied on Trump’s campaign & raided his house - no way they’ll be fair

Secret Service put a bunch of 5’5” women to protect Trump & snipers just watched the shooter

The House GOP needs to DO ITS JOB and hold the Biden executive accountable with a real committee investigation

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (wse2C)

250 Anytime a bunch of democrats show up to the same place, there’s going to be a shooting or two.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (cS7lA)

251
I guess she's being shingled out because she's the Director.
Posted by: muldoon

We shouldn't truss her judgement.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (qZEuM)

252 I wonder who had to give ok for the Overwatch team to remove the threat since obviously they fired 2nd

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (fwDg9)

253 Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ @realchrisrufo 19h
The Secret Service has separate physical standards for men and women agents. They are admitting that DEI is more important than competence. This is a recipe for disaster—and, if he is elected, President Trump must abolish DEI from the federal government.
city-journal.org/

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
The Dilbert Filter predicts that all management ideas that sound good on paper, such as improving diversity, eventually devolve into pure stupidity.

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (wse2C)

254 Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (9wkhT)

It was Saturday this is Tuesday... Any minute now... Taps foot... any minute they'll be coming down from the hills... Looks at watch... Any....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (IyPmt)

255 When that many factors line up in favor of the bad guy ... that's not incompetence. It's enemy action.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (+RsAS)

256 232 I can’t believe this is true. They are saying that the shooter carried a ladder 1 mile from his home to the rally
_____

Reportedly, his car was full of explosives, so of course he had to carry the ladder.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (fs1hN)

257
Might I remind The Horde that this very same administration summoned the political will to appropriate funds to put tens of thousands more IRS agents in the field, but is okay with an underfunded and undermanned Secret Service?

Priorities, people!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2024 03:54 PM (1CG4q)

258 I said from Day One that this was no lone wolf. I agree with you that the facts leave almost no room for any other conclusion other than there were others involved in the assassination plot.

I strongly suspect this was an FBI entrapment plot. Do I think the FBI would murder their main political opponent? You're goddamn right I do.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

If you had to pick a patsy out of a lineup, this kid would be a top choice.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 03:55 PM (KbCG3)

259 Did you see the "Wage gap" meme?

I'll try to find it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:51 PM (/CRIM)

I've seen it. Look, Trump only needs so many people immediately on top of him at once- actually, a pile of ten couldn't guarantee being safe from a hunting rifle. If girly guard was going anywhere but where she needed to be, President Trump will let her know.

I mean, it ticks me off a little that the guy who got shot is so calm about this while queefs like Jim Treacher are blah-blahing like Tacticool Experts.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 03:55 PM (AKKkq)

260 Someone here (or maybe just quoting someone else) suggested Trump and Biden switch SS teams. If there’s no funny business Biden should have no objections.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 16, 2024 03:55 PM (E8U3X)

261 155 They had nobody on the water tower overlooking the rally, I do not understand how no one’s fired or resigned
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 03:44 PM (FCrpy)

This.
But you know why nobody got fired.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

262 The Decisive Moment: What Henri Cartier-Bresson Actually Meant

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 16, 2024 03:55 PM (jBXWv)

263 We've reached the point with stuff like this where the 48 hour rule means the initial reporting under played just how bad it actually was.
Posted by: blake

Yeah. We are at 48 hours and it's only getting worse.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (Wt5CP)

264 the USSS knew the building 125 yards from President Trump was a huge vulnerability, but didn't station an agent there because it had a "sloped roof."
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That and putting an agent up there would have gotten in the way of the assassin.

Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (Dnobf)

265 Nobody involved will ever be held accountable for jack shit. Book it.

Posted by: ballistic at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (oqH4h)

266 >> I can’t believe this is true. They are saying that the shooter carried a ladder 1 mile from his home to the rally

I saw a pic of that building and there was a Roof Access Ladder shown.
Had one of those 'No Climb' panels that are super easy to climb around on it.
Pretty sure you can see it in photos. It is between buildings. But there.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (LL0dp)

267 I have theory that Star Wars storm troopers, who always get their asses kicked no matter their numerical, technical or strategic superiority, have a very strong DEI program.

Posted by: Ripley at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (GUOwU)

268 But.... there were two counter snipers on a steeper-sloped roof. So, clearly she is lying.

Posted by: Brian at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (iK8a4)

269 I've seen it. Look, Trump only needs so many people immediately on top of him at once- actually, a pile of ten couldn't guarantee being safe from a hunting rifle. If girly guard was going anywhere but where she needed to be, President Trump will let her know.

--

Sure. And she also deserves to be ridiculed and humiliated by the public because she shouldn't be in that position and is only there because she's got a vagina.

Easy as that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (/CRIM)

270 I watched an interview of one of the assassin's high school classmates. The classmate said that the assassin was constantly bullied at school, and I thought while hearing that, that being bullied in high school would make that kid a prime candidate for recruitment by not nice people.
Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (rj6Yv)

They also said he tried to join the rifle club at school and was so comically bad they not only kicked him off the team but banned him from trying out ever again. That was his freshman year, he must have gotten better.

The range finder is an interesting twist. That presumes he knows how to use it and the data it provides.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (xhfG9)

271 The first time I heard the racist use of "slope" was a couple of weeks ago when I was watching "The Sand Pebbles" on TCM. The Steve McQueen character referred to the Chinese as "Slopeheads."

I had never heard it used that way before then. And now it's everywhere in the jokes on this site.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (v6JzV)

272 I cannot think of an agency I trust less to investigate this than the FBI. They are proven crooks, liars, and partisans. We will NEVER get the truth from those hacks.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (pohLc)

273 Baffin Island agents and understaffed for the event.

As Insty likes to say: We're in the very best of hands.

The initial claim by agents about lack of staffing wasn't just throwing the White House under the bus, no, Cheatle had to open her stupid mouth and let everyone know the problems were far worse than what the field agents were saying.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (tT6L1)

274 266 >> I can’t believe this is true. They are saying that the shooter carried a ladder 1 mile from his home to the rally

I saw a pic of that building and there was a Roof Access Ladder shown.
Had one of those 'No Climb' panels that are super easy to climb around on it.
Pretty sure you can see it in photos. It is between buildings. But there.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 03:56 PM (LL0dp)

Immaterial how he specifically accessed the roof. He "somehow" knew he could do it with no resistance.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (KbCG3)

275 >>> 243
Should Trump be elected I have no doubt she chains herself to her desk and declares she can't be fired.
Posted by: Auspex at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (j4U/Z)

Set the desk on fire.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (VavZF)

276 Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood

We aren't there yet. Vlose.
But not there yet.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (Wt5CP)

277 I said from Day One that this was no lone wolf. I agree with you that the facts leave almost no room for any other conclusion other than there were others involved in the assassination plot.

I strongly suspect this was an FBI entrapment plot. Do I think the FBI would murder their main political opponent? You're goddamn right I do.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

If you had to pick a patsy out of a lineup, this kid would be a top choice.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 03:55 PM (KbCG3)
_____

He's either the only Gen Z on the planet with no social media presence whatsoever or his social media was professionally scrubbed in the days or hours leading to the attempted murder. Which is more likely?

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (iFTx/)

278 I've seen wheelchair access ramps with steeper slopes than the pitch of that roof.

Posted by: sierra at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (IqvKf)

279 If there were guys in the building wouldn't they hear the clambering around on a metal roof.

I hear the roofers on our building at work

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (NtVYv)

280 I said this morning with Eff Bee Eye in possession of the trashes phone we won't ever hear from it again

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (fwDg9)

281 *Cheatle needs to resign and be held accountable.*

Cheatle will neither resign, nor held accountable. Nor will anyone else. Hell, they'll probably all get medals for this.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (PWI4f)

282 We'll find out tomorrow that the shooter asked the cops if he could borrow their ladder.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (+RsAS)

283 Someone really needs to come up with a muffin-top-friendly holster.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (14URa)

284 They also said he tried to join the rifle club at school and was so comically bad they not only kicked him off the team but banned him from trying out ever again. That was his freshman year, he must have gotten better.

The range finder is an interesting twist. That presumes he knows how to use it and the data it provides.

--

I assume antifa training, which comes with official support from professionals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (/CRIM)

285 232 I can’t believe this is true. They are saying that the shooter carried a ladder 1 mile from his home to the rally

He lived over 40 miles away.

It is reported that his car was a half mile away. That would be the distance he carried the ladder.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (xhfG9)

286 I wonder if there are rafter effects of walking on a sloped roof...

Posted by: muldoon at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (uCfKO)

287 This was a preplanned set up to assassinate Trump. No way that roof shouldn't have been covered from multiple angles. The perp dwelled around the place for over an hours taking ranges. Why were the agents hanging out inside the damn building? Free coffee? Donuts?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (/U5Yz)

288 Rapid DNA analysis can be completed within minutes to a few hours to identify a body

As long as the suspect's DNA is in a database like CODIS

So how does a 20 year old's DNA wind up in such a database

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (DBZuM)

289 As usual: How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States? Think about the risks you run by merely hinting to someone about such a scheme, in an effort to recruit him.
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Recruit among federal employees.

There's no risk at all.

Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (Dnobf)

290 283 Someone really needs to come up with a muffin-top-friendly holster.
Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (14URa)

Hey I'm right here!

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (xhfG9)

291 But in this case, we have so many Secret Service agents making baffling decisions that you'd pretty much have to speculate that the entire team, including Kim Cheatle, was part of the plot.

Russia Hoax

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (U8kCF)

292 For those on X (formerly Twitter) this is a post from Sean Parnell:

http://alturl.com/z22si

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:42 PM (xhfG9)

Holy fuckballs.
Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (14URa)

Mmhmm. I do have a LOT of questions for the two officers with rifles on the roof. I could have spotted that fool just by looking where they were looking when filmed!

Which is why a lot of the media's attention is on the "fat chicks."

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (AKKkq)

293 Had one of those 'No Climb' panels that are super easy to climb around on it.

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A sign with a "don't climb" pictogram

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (/CRIM)

294 Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Without evidence, as they say.

Pulled straight out of their asses. Fiction.

Posted by: Rooftop Korean at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (yxhux)

295 Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Norm MacDonald redux.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (iRX3h)

296 Why were the agents hanging out inside the damn building? Free coffee? Donuts?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (/U5Yz)

Because "it was hot."

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (xhfG9)

297 We had a loser Governor nicknamed the Grey Satan. He got recalled and some ex Austrian army corporal named Ahnuld borrowed a shit ton of money to paper over what the Grey Satan did wrong. Then Moonbeam Brown got installed and he paid off what Ahnuld borrowed but mostly by cheating students not paving roads destroying the state ventilator stash and letting 70000 inmates go free. And then comes the Newsatan who rekt the economy with ridiculous covid rules he wouldn't go by and bought a shit ton of fake medical supplies from his communist Chinese buddies and now is slumming to be Mattress Back's vice president. And the best goes on.

Posted by: torabora at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (V5wPg)

298 That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof

She should be fired for "stupidest excuse of the twenty first century" If the dead shooter's body slid off the roof after being shot you might be able to make that argument.

Also, if you are so scared of putting someone on the roof, couldn't you secure it by placing a few agents on the ground around it to make sure someone who isn't frightened by a one degree slope doesn't climb to the roof.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (yOPBE)

299 Incompetence is the easy way out. Mostly free country, so carry on.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

300 I have theory that Star Wars storm troopers, who always get their asses kicked no matter their numerical, technical or strategic superiority, have a very strong DEI program.

At least in the first one, the stormtroopers were *letting* the heroes get away so Tarkin could follow them to the secret Rebel base.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, pedant at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (1Idb6)

301 Cheatle will neither resign, nor held accountable. Nor will anyone else. Hell, they'll probably all get medals for this.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (PWI4f)

you are too young to be this cynical

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:00 PM (xhfG9)

302
My educated guess is after the recent Supreme Court decision to split the baby and they decided that there are 'Official Acts' a President can make and have immunity and there are less then official acts with no immunity, that no one had the balls to tell Dementia Joe he had to watch what he said. Nope. Nobody told him so he went ahead with the 'bullseye' comment that got Trump shot within five days. If I were Trumps legal team I would be preparing the greatest lawsuit ever, the best, you'll get tired of reading how good this lawsuit is.

Play to win and never get tired of winning.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (RKVpM)

303 The first time I heard the racist use of "slope" was a couple of weeks ago when I was watching "The Sand Pebbles" on TCM. The Steve McQueen character referred to the Chinese as "Slopeheads."

I had never heard it used that way before then. And now it's everywhere in the jokes on this site.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Except here, everyone means the pitch of the roof. With the play on words vs Steve McQueen's character using it as a pejorative.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (Wt5CP)

304 I assume antifa training, which comes with official support from professionals.
____

Unofficial support, citizen.

Posted by: Three Letter Agency at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (fs1hN)

305 Set the desk on fire.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (VavZF)

Those desks have historical value. Grab the belt sander.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (AKKkq)

306 278 I've seen wheelchair access ramps with steeper slopes than the pitch of that roof.

Posted by: sierra at July 16, 2024 03:58 PM (IqvKf)

Including that one they lambasted Trump for holding handrail by navigating in his non-grippy shoes in the rain.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (14URa)

307 It's ok. She'll "take full responsibility" like Janet Reno.

And, just like Janet Reno, she'll pretend that saying those words is a magic spell that makes everything fine and continue to fail at her job and get more people killed.

And be lauded for it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (N1DT3)

308 Cousin Bubba can take 15000 pics with his digital camera, and he's bound to get some good ones.

That’s my strategy for vacation and food photos. I take crappy photos but you take hundreds and some are going to be awesome. I’ve only owned one film camera in my life and that was a study in frustration.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (EXyHK)

309 So how does a 20 year old's DNA wind up in such a database

I either read or heard Sunday they initially identified him through the rifle, so if they had a preliminary ID through that they could just get samples from his parents.

But the FIBs are in CYA mode so who knows.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (Y8lzz)

310 Clearly there are some Democrats with decent political instincts and realize she must resign to show at least some credibility.

She has 20 plus years, maybe more federal "service", so she has a golden parachute awaiting. It makes sense from a political perspective. It's no skin of her nose. Democrats can try to look tough, if only from a distance.

She'll be gone before the week is over.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (sNauO)

311 Nobody involved will ever be held accountable for jack shit. Book it.

It's becoming increasing more difficult to not believe this was an op. I'm not even sure they care if it's proven to be true anymore.

Posted by: Halfhand at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (uFHA9)

312 Yesterday the Trump Family was still thanking the Secret Service

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (IyPmt)

313 289 As usual: How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States? Think about the risks you run by merely hinting to someone about such a scheme, in an effort to recruit him.
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Recruit among federal employees.

There's no risk at all.
Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (Dnobf)

You don't need that many. You hire enough idiots and it's easy to lead them down a path where something like this could happen.

They were all just taking orders or something.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (fDp3w)

314 I can set my go Pro at 5k 120 frames per second and with a 1tb sdMini I can shoot over 14 hours of video

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (FCrpy)

315 They also said he tried to join the rifle club at school and was so comically bad they not only kicked him off the team but banned him from trying out ever again. That was his freshman year, he must have gotten better.

The range finder is an interesting twist. That presumes he knows how to use it and the data it provides.
Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (xhfG9)

If he had the desire (demonstrated) and the training (TBD), then there's every possibility for him to get "better".

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (rj6Yv)

316 124 This sounds really bogus, and I would not be surprised to see a totally different set of excuses over the next several days. Maybe she should have referenced climate change?
Posted by: Isophorone

Uh...the lead Secret Service agent for the security plan was suffering from a cold, and was jet-lagged from recent international travel?

Posted by: KJP, trial ballooning alternate excuses at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (JCZqz)

317 I have theory that Star Wars storm troopers, who always get their asses kicked no matter their numerical, technical or strategic superiority, have a very strong DEI program.

Well, they are definitely over-represented at the USSS.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (Wt5CP)

318 >> Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood

76 million+ Trump voters, mostly with guns and a trillion rounds of ammo, and there wasn't even a single Dem office or campaign HQ that took a pot shot on Saturday night.

Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (L+5ng)

319 >>> 293 Had one of those 'No Climb' panels that are super easy to climb around on it.

--

A sign with a "don't climb" pictogram
Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 03:59 PM (/CRIM)

If only they'd put up "ASSASINATION FREE ZONE" signs!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (VavZF)

320 >>That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof

No consideration that the Slope combined with the Peak would make it an awesomely perfect spot for a sniper to get a look at the stage without exposing more than the barrel and the scope.

Fucking woman should be gibbeted.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (LL0dp)

321 Apparently social media is trying to push a narrative that MAGA is just now finding out Vance's wife is Indian an a Hindu, and are turning on Vance as VP because of course MAGA = racist.

Bite. Me.

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (Eng1Z)

322 Except here, everyone means the pitch of the roof. With the play on words vs Steve McQueen's character using it as a pejorative.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (Wt5CP)

Young Candace Bergen, be still my heart

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (NtVYv)

323 A survival whistle? For fukksake get an Aztec Scream Whistle.

Posted by: Ray Patriarca at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (wBaIH)

324 Except here, everyone means the pitch of the roof. With the play on words vs Steve McQueen's character using it as a pejorative.
Posted by: rickb223

Yes, I know. I just think it's weird that a term I just learned a few weeks ago is suddenly all over the place on the blog.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (v6JzV)

325 As usual: How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States? Think about the risks you run by merely hinting to someone about such a scheme, in an effort to recruit him.
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From the hundreds of leftist "school psychologists" who have identified recruits,hooked weak minded students on drugs, convinced them they are victims and contort their value system to murder.

Posted by: Rooftop Korean at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (yxhux)

326 Yesterday the Trump Family was still thanking the Secret Service
Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (IyPmt)

Why not?

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (rj6Yv)

327 you're telling me a random 20 year old just happens to stumble upon a building a hundred yards from the stage with a clear line of sight, which somehow was not being surveilled at the time, and which was occupied by a sniper team, grabs his ladder and gun, climbs up, crawls up the roof, and gets off three shots. That took 20 minutes.

And, the kid lives an hour away, but managed to find out the building was accessible, and to do all this by himself.
===
So many coincidences needed, to avoid an obvious conspiracy.
See the liklihood of a conspiracy is greater than these coincidence strings. Seriously who puts snipers INSIDE the only flat topped roof in 150 yards. Kid put on Instagram SKVMLORD made me do it. Then SKVMLORD posts never send an antifa pussy to do CIA wetwork. unlock the kids phones and computers. He was being handled. Kid was seen on his phone right before he took out laser range finder.

Conspiracies are real. Happen All the time. Ask your local prosecutor. Or just watch the sopranos.

Posted by: Don't be intimidated by labels. at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (/7EJg)

328 Hell, they'll probably all get medals for this.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese

*Ted Cruz enters the vlog

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (/U5Yz)

329 76 million+ Trump voters, mostly with guns and a trillion rounds of ammo, and there wasn't even a single Dem office or campaign HQ that took a pot shot on Saturday night.

Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (L+5ng)

Or any night, ever.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (14URa)

330 So how does a 20 year old's DNA wind up in such a database

I either read or heard Sunday they initially identified him through the rifle, so if they had a preliminary ID through that they could just get samples from his parents.

But the FIBs are in CYA mode so who knows.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 16, 2024 04:01 PM (Y8lzz)
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I'm sure a quick thinker just called payroll for the name.

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (JwHpX)

331 Are they trying to blame Iran now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (63Dwl)

332 Kamala holding an event in Philadelphia on Saturday.

Compare those.

Posted by: Goatweed at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (KRyeA)

333 They were going to have the Fashion Police guard Dr. Doctor Jill, MD, but they would have shot her dead.

Posted by: Wally at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (Uz/yw)

334 It's possible to tie a 12 foot ladder on a car

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

335 318 >> Ace, to add rueful insult to Trump's injury, did you see Politico says DHS is today warning of impending "right wing retaliatory attacks"?
Posted by: Huck Follywood

76 million+ Trump voters, mostly with guns and a trillion rounds of ammo, and there wasn't even a single Dem office or campaign HQ that took a pot shot on Saturday night.
Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 04:03 PM (L+5ng)

A dem office will be fire bombed.

At a time when no one is inside.

And all the cameras are turned off.

You'll just have to take their word for it that it was totally right-wing retaliation and not the second version of the Jan. 5 DNC pipe bomb.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (fDp3w)

336
That's how most still pictures are shot. They aren't "oh here's a good shot, let me take it [snaps pic]." They are culled from rapid-fire video.
Posted by: Elric Blade

I shoot video on my phone of the gKids and extract stills from them to get far better pictures of them than still shots would ever be. No cheesy, "Say, cheese!" faces, either.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (1CG4q)

337 You don't get kicked off a school activity for being bad at it.

If he was kicked off the rifle team, it's because he was a mentalcase and skeeved out the coach.

Could be worth looking into. If only there was a profession where people looked into things like this and then told everyone what they found out.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (1UI5n)

338 @302

>>Play to win and never get tired of winning.

Well, the Left said that the SCOTUS immunity decision meant that Biden could kill his opponent, so... they tried.

CASE. CLOSED.

Remember, when asked recently about what they were going to do about Biden, Manchin said, we have to wait till after Sunday.

Now why would he say something like that?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (XV/Pl)

339 Evil intent through deliberate incompetence is not off the table.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (U0ECT)

340 Young Candace Bergen, be still my heart
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

Yes, very pretty.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (v6JzV)

341 76 million+ Trump voters, mostly with guns and a trillion rounds of ammo, and there wasn't even a single Dem office or campaign HQ that took a pot shot on Saturday night.

What keeps us docile is hope. Once that is lost, I'm not sure what happens next.

Posted by: Halfhand at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (uFHA9)

342 Elon Musk to move the headquarters of X and Space X from California to Texas.

Adios, douchebags.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (BtTPD)

343 "Charlie Kirk
Unbelievable. Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle now admits that the USSS knew the building 125 yards from President Trump was a huge vulnerability, but didn't station an agent there because it had a "sloped roof."

"That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside."

This is "safetyism" run amok at its absolute worst.

Cheatle shouldn't be trusted with protecting the food court of a shopping mall, let alone the US president. She should resign or be fired IMMEDIATELY."

>Repeating what I wrote multiple times earlier today -
The counter-sniper teams behind the stage - put there by the SS - were on roofs with a greater slope than the scumbag's roof! POOF goes that excuse, Kim.

The temperature on the metal roofs the SS counter sniper teams were on behind the stage and the scumbag's roof had to be the same temperature or within a few degrees F, after all afternoon on a sunny day! POOF goes the 'roof was too hot' excuse by the Sheriff.

Posted by: Gref at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (5fDan)

344 I am just going to point out that when your agents are women in high heels, sloped rooftops are now a concern.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (LL0dp)

345 "... not when he (Trump) hasn't been challenged in a way that he is about to be challenged." Biden in Stephanopoulos interview just a few days ago.

George responds that "you (Biden) have had months to challenge him". Biden says he's been busy. But my question would have been "What New Challenge is about to come Trump's way?"

Blowhard Biden brags about getting the Ukraine prosecutor fired, or when asked about the bribes he "jokes" "Where's the Money?" ... he just can't help himself, feels untouchable, and has been to date.

If there was some physical challenge coming to Trump (like an assassination), doubtful they would tell dementia Joe I guess. But the "Stand Down" concept sure has been useful to the left ... on prosecuting Hillary, or Biden, or Antifa, etc. Stand Down on security for Trump is also in play. Wonder if we ever find out what meds Crooks was on, and what contacts he had in the weeks prior. Or have they already bleach bit and hammered that phone?

Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (Cus5s)

346 I'll flat out say the SS has been compromised, I don't care if it's malice or incompetence or a bit of both.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (xcxpd)

347 Why would anyone need a range finder on a 150m shot? Just aim center mass.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (n17eQ)

348 275 >>> 243
Should Trump be elected I have no doubt she chains herself to her desk and declares she can't be fired.
Posted by: Auspex at July 16, 2024 03:53 PM (j4U/Z)

Set the desk on fire.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 03:57 PM (VavZF)

On a sloped roof....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (wtvvX)

349 At least in the first one, the stormtroopers were *letting* the heroes get away so Tarkin could follow them to the secret Rebel base.
Posted by: Lance McCormick

Also, they slaughtered Luke's family, the Jawas, and maybe the sand people involved. They were at least moderately threatening.

Posted by: Movie Moron at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (JCZqz)

350 Uh...the lead Secret Service agent for the security plan was suffering from a cold, and was jet-lagged from recent international travel?
Posted by: KJP, trial ballooning alternate excuses at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (JCZqz)

Ooh, ooh, do that! We like it!

Posted by: Clapping Media Seals at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (xhfG9)

351 Early report at DM said there was ongoing construction around the building and the ladder was already there.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (5MvGY)

352 Nobody involved will ever be held accountable for jack shit. Book it.
Posted by: ballistic

I hope you're wrong, I hope to witness the Multi-Gallows Deluxe after President Lincoln was shot.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (iRX3h)

353 346 I'll flat out say the SS has been compromised, I don't care if it's malice or incompetence or a bit of both.
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Hint - Its malice.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (n17eQ)

354 Earning your truss daily! - Today's Secret Service

Posted by: Rex B at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (eCnv0)

355 Yesterday the Trump Family was still thanking the Secret Service
Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 04:02 PM (

Nice doggy

Posted by: to the pit bull glaring at me with the bared teeth at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (gKWVE)

356 +3 to EH for the Ginger Lynn mention.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (CwhoI)

357 Both the dead perps parents are counselors. Figures.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (/U5Yz)

358 Had one of those 'No Climb' panels that are super easy to climb around on it.

A sign with a "don't climb" pictogram
Posted by: Moron Robbie

A plaque with OSHA's ladder regulations.

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (DgGvY)

359 Well, according to the Fat Latina the Supreme Court did just say a president has immunity for killing his political rivals . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

360 Young Candace Bergen, be still my heart
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

Yes, very pretty.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 04:05 PM (v6JzV)

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/candice-bergen-2015/

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (NtVYv)

361 George responds that "you (Biden) have had months to challenge him". Biden says he's been busy.

But my question would have been

With what? Not according to your schedule.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (Wt5CP)

362 I will totally miss the Ho as will be way out of town and busy, will be interesting how many show up.

Last article read on Sundowner's Parkinsons Dementia is they don't want large crowds if they could get them. It would trigger a episode.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (fwDg9)

363 It's possible to tie a 12 foot ladder on a car
Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

And toss a rifle case and a rangefinder on the back seat.

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (rj6Yv)

364 Also, in before FUD Troll starts defending the SS.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (xcxpd)

365 Yes, I know. I just think it's weird that a term I just learned a few weeks ago is suddenly all over the place on the blog.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

_________

Christopher Walken also used it in Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (NsaTj)

366 And the 3rd ss girlboss worried more about putting her sunglasses on than anything else.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I think 3rd SS GirlBoss is getting a bad rap because of the other two, Agent Beach Volleyball Girl and Agent Body Positive.

She was still the wrong pick for the detail, due to her size, but she's the only one of the three I saw that actually looked like she knew how to do the job.

Posted by: Oedipus at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (Z6vKV)

367 Kamala holding an event in Philadelphia on Saturday.
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The Unburdened By the Past Tour.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (yxhux)

368 351 Early report at DM said there was ongoing construction around the building and the ladder was already there.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2024 04:06 PM (5MvGY)

I read he bought 50 rounds of ammo and a ladder....We'll never get the truth

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (IyPmt)

369 You don't get kicked off a school activity for being bad at it.
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That's a really great point. Those programs are usually happy to have all the kids involved that they can.

I think you're right on target (ha) with him getting kicked off because he was a nutjob.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (/CRIM)

370 Pepsi Cop is going to hire Disney PR to whine she's only being attacked because she is a woman.

I mean, come on: Who is saying she's incompetent, deadly incompetent?
Old, white men who can't stand women in power.
Ex-snipers and former Secret Service agents don't know how hard it is to be a woman.
They're not qualified to tell her how to do get job.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (pYl7Q)

371 >>> Well, according to the Fat Latina the Supreme Court did just say a president has immunity for killing his political rivals . . . .

Nixon resigned for a lot less, just saying...

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (Eng1Z)

372 Where did this fuckward put in his range time and where did he get the explosive materials?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (5MvGY)

373 Should Trump be elected I have no doubt she chains herself to her desk and declares she can't be fired.

A modest suggestion - trebuchet

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (U0ECT)

374 "That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof."

--

What, were the SS agents on roller skates? This is utter insanity and the lamest excuse I've ever heard on just about anything. This DEI buddy of Jill Biden needs her a** canned, like this very minute. I'm not going to call her incompetent, because I truly believe malice was involved. That's where we are with nearly every gov't agency.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (mupln)

375 If he was kicked off the rifle team, it's because he was a mentalcase and skeeved out the coach.

Exactly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 16, 2024 04:09 PM (qZEuM)

376 Agent Body Positive
--

hahaha

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 04:09 PM (/CRIM)

377 "So the assassin had so much time that he could whip out a rangefinder to judge the bullet drop to the stage?

Where does a dishwasher at a nursing home get the cash for that? Using a rangefinder properly requires time and experience to use it effectively. He could dope wind speed from the flag, a rangefinder for exact distance. He's a trained operator.

..."
Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 03:50 PM (rj6Yv)

Very interesting point.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 16, 2024 04:09 PM (hOOi9)

378 My only problem with the conspiracy theory of this being an inside job is that everyone knows it creates the ultimate martyr.

If you kill him, he becomes larger than life in the way JFK was. If you miss, you give him the most massive political boost ever and assure his election.

I have zero doubt elements in our government would have no problem killing Trump, it just seems to backfire on every goal.

I'm in the "DEI incompetence" camp.

Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 04:09 PM (wMRY8)

379 212 What if the were issues some sort of sloped shoes? Same angle as the roof. Then it’s flat to them.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
___________

I had a pair of those in the 70s.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Me too! Mine had clear plastic soles and heels with sparkles. Laced up my calf. You could also buy hollow ones you could put goldfish in. I miss those days.

Posted by: Disco Inferno at July 16, 2024 04:09 PM (V5BDR)

380 Someone shot outside RNC?

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (PUVOR)

381 353 346 I'll flat out say the SS has been compromised, I don't care if it's malice or incompetence or a bit of both.
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Hint - Its malice.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (n17eQ)

I'm prepared to believe it

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (xcxpd)

382 >>I'll flat out say the SS has been compromised, I don't care if it's malice or incompetence or a bit of both.

They have been compromised since the 60's if not earlier.

JFK and RFK wanted to get rid of them entirely. Not doing so probably cost both of them their lives.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (LL0dp)

383 She was still the wrong pick for the detail, due to her size, but she's the only one of the three I saw that actually looked like she knew how to do the job.
Posted by: Oedipus at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (Z6vKV)

I agree, she looked like she handled her shit pretty good

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (NtVYv)

384 +3 to EH for the Ginger Lynn mention.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 16, 2024 04:07 PM (CwhoI)

Born in '62. Well, time flies.

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (rj6Yv)

385 There's no such thing as a conspiracy theory. It's a term to shut down conversations.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (/CRIM)

386 347 Why would anyone need a range finder on a 150m shot? Just aim center mass.
Posted by: Pudinhead

I assume he thought Trump may have some kind of body armor on, so he wanted a headshot. As we saw, just a couple of inches can make a BIG difference with headshots, so he may have wanted to be sure.

I've done a decent amount of competitive shooting with the military using iron sights, and the change in point of impact between 100, 200 and 300 yards is enough that, for a headshot, you'd want to know the distance as closely as possible, and adjust accordingly

Posted by: Military Moron at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (JCZqz)

387 331 Are they trying to blame Iran now?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (63Dwl)

No. This is a wildcard. Looks like it is coming from DHS, so likely it is a "hey all you MAGATs shut up and back our blue because the Iranians are coming and don't be criticizing us!"

Posted by: Clapping Media Seals at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (xhfG9)

388 Could have been a collapsible ladder. I have one, it collapses down to about 30 inches tall and is 12 ft extended.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (/U5Yz)

389 Unless Mayorkas fires her, or is it Wray ? there is no way to get her fired?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (Zy6LG)

390 Yesterday the Trump Family was still thanking the Secret Service

When my barber has a blade to my face she is always the greatest barber, ever.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (EXyHK)

391 What, were the SS agents on roller skates? This is utter insanity and the lamest excuse I've ever heard on just about anything. This DEI buddy of Jill Biden needs her a** canned, like this very minute. I'm not going to call her incompetent, because I truly believe malice was involved. That's where we are with nearly every gov't agency.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (mupln)

Every foreign adversary who may wish harm on our elected leaders, and there are hundreds pouring over the border every day, was just told that the SS can do nothing to overcome slightly sloped roofs.

But we can't release J6 footage because it may compromise national security.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (fDp3w)

392 >>> 325 As usual: How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States? Think about the risks you run by merely hinting to someone about such a scheme, in an effort to recruit him.
-------/-

From the hundreds of leftist "school psychologists" who have identified recruits,hooked weak minded students on drugs, convinced them they are victims and contort their value system to murder.
Posted by: Rooftop Korean at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (yxhux)

If you have patsies, or even competent recruits, stashed all over the country, then you can use them if / when the 'opportunity' presents itself.
You don't have to tell the recruit what they're going to do until the last minute; if they're willing great, if not, oh well...
You are saving Our Precious Democracy from a Grave Threat, just like.... *how* many people were counting votes in all those states that stopped counting all at once?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (VavZF)

393 I hope you're wrong, I hope to witness the Multi-Gallows Deluxe after President Lincoln was shot.
----------------------
For some, not all. My 5x or 6x cousin ran all the spies in Southern Maryland and DC during the Caine and Abel war. He was holding Booth's horse outside Ford's theater. He also got Booth across the Potomac and then beat feet to Cuba, then England. He was never arrested nor prosecuted. My guess is he was executing a plan requested by the hardcore Pub partisans that were worried Lincoln would go soft on the Confederates. They wanted and got the complete destruction of the South and Lincoln was a matyr.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (n17eQ)

394 Mmhmm. I do have a LOT of questions for the two officers with rifles on the roof. I could have spotted that fool just by looking where they were looking when filmed!

Which is why a lot of the media's attention is on the "fat chicks."

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire

They were looking for Christian Nationalists, not anti fags.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (lTGtQ)

395 There was one mass shooter who used his COVID money to buy the gun.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (U0ECT)

396 off stupid sock

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (xhfG9)

397 Apparently social media is trying to push a narrative that MAGA is just now finding out Vance's wife is Indian an a Hindu, and are turning on Vance as VP because of course MAGA = racist.

Bite. Me.
Posted by: LizLem

I've seen a few of these comments, to be fair. But the left sees a few, and says it's all of us and not ten people on Zerohedge.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (iRX3h)

398 Afternoon.

Something the left *spit* and the NeverTrumpers have been saying is we don't know the shooter's motives so it's not reasonable to say the violent leftwing rhetoric regarding Trump is a proximate cause of the attempted assassination.

Let's just take that for granted for just a moment.

See, the thing is it's not only that leftist rhetoric might encourage someone losing their freakin' mind and trying to do what that little asshole tried to do. It's that leftist rhetoric is likely to encourage, for example, the Secret Service and others doing a half-assed job of protecting the man they're supposed to protect. "Does Trump need so much security? Yeah, what are the odds of someone really trying to commit murder at this event? And anyway it's just Trump, right? Fuck that guy! Orange Hitler fascist motherfucker."

While the motives of the assassin might be difficult to know at the moment, I'd say the motives for USSS ineptitude are much more readily knowable.

Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (1Yy3c)

399 Early report at DM said there was ongoing construction around the building and the ladder was already there.

This has been the subject of much discussion on a gun forum I frequent. All the construction guys said a ladder would never be kept erected off-hours out of liability concerns.

Posted by: Halfhand at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (uFHA9)

400 @378

>>If you kill him, he becomes larger than life in the way JFK was. If you miss, you give him the most massive political boost ever and assure his election.

We are literally dealing with lunatics who think they can get away with pretty much whatever they cook up and in many ways they have.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (XV/Pl)

401 Ginger Lynn was no Hyapatia Lee.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (LL0dp)

402 Could have been a collapsible ladder. I have one, it collapses down to about 30 inches tall and is 12 ft extended.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:10 PM (/U5Yz)

Little Giant !

Posted by: Robert Reich at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (NtVYv)

403 I look at this from the perspective that the poor performance is NOT an isolated incident. My guess is that just about every Trump rally has been run as poorly (fortified by the DHS refusing to increase resources to provide an ready excuse for any incident that may happen). If this behavior has become the norm in an effort to leave open gaps for exploitation, then the security team is not going to think anything amiss....and would not have to be complicit.

What they didn't count on was those ingrate, sister-F*cking MAGA assholes actually keeping their eyes open and reporting their observations to local law enforcement. I really really really want to hear the comms between local law enforcement, PA SP, and the USSS. My guess is it was reported up the line and sat on by the fat chick.

Posted by: Orson at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (dIske)

404 400
We are literally dealing with lunatics who think they can get away with pretty much whatever they cook up and in many ways they have.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (XV/Pl)

=======

The timing would mean candidate Haley.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

405 334 It's possible to tie a 12 foot ladder on a car

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

Many of those type of buildings have an exterior ladder. And, in any case, intrepid security professionals were inside the facility. I'm guessing there were donuts.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (14URa)

406 21 >>>6 She will be "resigned" within the week. Dr. Jill will sacrifice her to save her own skin. The Dems can't force out Biden, but they can force out this person. She will be given a nice pay package to be head of security at another company. She's gone.

disagree! the left doesn't admit error, ever. Furthermore, if this DEI Girlboss falls, that endangers all the other DEI hires throughout government.

They are going to just force us to accept that DEI means a much lesser standard of service, and make us agree to accept incompetence as racial/gender "justice"

Posted by: ace at July 16, 2024 03:27 PM (KRtlO)
==
Ace,
You could be right. But the Secret Service has just opened themselves up to one hell of a civil rights lawsuit. The incompetence is wide open - the hiring done solely on sex reason, not merit. If I was an aspiring Secret Service Agent who didn't get hired, find an attorney and file the lawsuit. The gov is not immune to civil rights lawsuits. I think Justice Thomas would be very interested in using this one to drive the final stake through DEI - Affirmative Action Plans.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (GZYu7)

407 How did the mob pull off the Luftansa heist? It wasn't some brilliant Oceans 11 style break-in. Someone gave them the key. They knew they could get in.

The idea this kid just randomly walked up to a building 60 miles from home confident it was unguarded is the same thing. He knew he'd be able to get up there.

Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (L+5ng)

408 I'm home. Got in last night and might have drunk too much too quickly.

Whoops.

But I think the headache is finally gone.

I need a shower.

Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2024 04:13 PM (1Yy3c)

409 Actually, Uma Thurman and Fox Force Five would have been better. Uma is 5'11"

Posted by: Chuck C at July 16, 2024 04:13 PM (yOPBE)

410 Apparently social media is trying to push a narrative that MAGA is just now finding out Vance's wife is Indian an a Hindu, and are turning on Vance as VP because of course MAGA = racist.

-

Wait, what about the part where we generally think attractive Indian women are really hot?

(but there's not much in between, sadly)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - All the rights and pay of men, but the accountability of children at July 16, 2024 04:13 PM (/CRIM)

411 A few days ago we thought the Trump mug shot was the photo of the decade.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (cf/0E)

412 @401

>>Ginger Lynn was no Hyapatia Lee.

Listen, everyone knows Seka was the best in the biz followed closely by Barbara Dare.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (XV/Pl)

413 Well, according to the Fat Latina the Supreme Court did just say a president has immunity for killing his political rivals . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade

That is, quite probably the most effing stupid take on the ruling, and being promoted by the usual imbeciles.
The President is granted immunity from prosecution while properly executing his tasks as Chief Executive of the Executive Branch and Commander in chief.
That could mean that Obama could not be prosecuted for approving a drone strike (remember this?) that killed an American citizen, while this person was part of an overseas (al Qaeda?) identified terrorist group, acting as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.
It does not mean that a President can do things in contravention of the US Criminal Code inside the United States. That is outside his purview as Chief Executive.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (vcOmj)

414 Speaking of the law of averages, something I thought of the other day while we were still processing this Charlie Foxtrot: How many would-be assassins does the USSS deter every year? Is it that every time there's a public event, someone actively pings their radar and gets handled quietly? How about passive deterrence-do unstable people routinely roll up and realize it's way too much of a hassle to evade all the agents, but the agents make a note of them anyway? I'm curious, because if they knew there was a 90%+ chance that someone would find a hole in their net and immediately take advantage of it, it goes from the realm of sheer incompetence into conspiracy territory.

Posted by: pookysgirl figures she won't get an official answer at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (dtlDP)

415 They are also going after Vance's wife for her 'connections' t a Supreme Court Justice.

The Media, Delenda Est, is desperate and is seeing what will stick.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (U0ECT)

416 As usual: How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States? Think about the risks you run by merely hinting to someone about such a scheme, in an effort to recruit him.
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Do you have to conspire when everyone knows the Fuerer's wishes?
Seriously, 10 years of "Trump is the greatest threat to America ever" isn't gonna just lead to a whole lot of "F that guy, I'll do the bare, absolutely bare minimum to protect him?"
If you hate your boss' guts, what do you care if you "forget " to lock the door at night?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (pYl7Q)

417 Exactly right, Mr. Davis. Let's pretend it's negligence, create an environment and see what happens ! The left are fkng Socialists, ends justify the means.

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (V13WU)

418 >Actually, Uma Thurman and Fox Force Five would have been better. Uma is 5'11"

Her enormous feet practically sticks to roofs.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (cf/0E)

419 >>I've done a decent amount of competitive shooting with the military using iron sights, and the change in point of impact between 100, 200 and 300 yards is enough that, for a headshot, you'd want to know the distance as closely as possible, and adjust accordingly

MilDot Reticle.

Rangefinder and Scope in one convenient package.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (LL0dp)

420 I hope the victims sue like te wind.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (RLLZj)

421 Robert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLamjgP5sU

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (U0ECT)

422 SS girls with really big boobs might be effective bullet stoppers.

But there are much better uses for really big boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 04:16 PM (v6JzV)

423 Ok, this is funny:

"When you see something, say something
Call 1-800-1Vought.
Could be a moocher from the welfare state,
Or your teacher who tries to indoctrinate.
A socialist who says the stars and stripes aren't great.
Keep your eyes open and your ears stay peeled,
But whatever you do, make sure your lips aren't sealed."

Some shit from The Boys.

Tinfoil hat time:
The plotline is about trying to foil the assassination of the President, because the VP is a Supe that wants to take over.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 16, 2024 04:16 PM (ufFY8)

424 6 She will be "resigned" within the week. Dr. Jill will sacrifice her to save her own skin. The Dems can't force out Biden, but they can force out this person. She will be given a nice pay package to be head of security at another company. She's gone.

Perhaps we can promote her? Where can she fail upwards to? We didn't really position her for success, you know...

Posted by: Dr. Jill and her Deep State advisors at July 16, 2024 04:16 PM (JCZqz)

425 Do we know if shooter had a scope?

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:16 PM (fwDg9)

426 420 I hope the victims sue like te wind.
Posted by: Just Lily at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (RLLZj)

Who ? It was Trump's event so Trump ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 16, 2024 04:16 PM (IyPmt)

427 @404

>>The timing would mean candidate Haley.

Manchin saying we will have to wait till after Sunday to see what they are going to do with Biden was the tell that the Donk Borg collective knew something was brewing.

You kill Trump before the RNC and before he names his VP and all hell breaks loose and you don't need to change out The Meat Puppet because his the only person that has a shot at beating him and the cheat is dead.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

428 Lana Lake would be an appropriate SS Agent.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (1Z/FH)

429 You don't get kicked off a school activity for being bad at it.

Tell that to my junior high basketball coach.

If he was kicked off the team, it's because he was a mental case and skeeved out the coach.

Well, okay. When you put it that way...

Posted by: muldoon at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (uCfKO)

430 Someone here (or maybe just quoting someone else) suggested Trump and Biden switch SS teams. If there’s no funny business Biden should have no objections.
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I did but I stole it from someone else!

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (wse2C)

431 >> And, in any case, intrepid security professionals were inside the facility. I'm guessing there were donuts.

It is ENTIRELY possible that he knocked on the door and they let him borrow a fucking ladder at this point.

Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (LL0dp)

432 @401

>>Ginger Lynn was no Hyapatia Lee.

Listen, everyone knows Seka was the best in the biz followed closely by Barbara Dare.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (XV/Pl)

Desiree Cousteau

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (rj6Yv)

433 Ginger Lynn? That's really showing you age. Or has the name been recycled, like Machine Gun Kelly?

Posted by: Toad-0 at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (cct0t)

434 If this was just a fuck up the Head of the Secret Cervix and whoever stationed the agents that day (I assume she didn't ACTUALLY do it) would have both already been fired.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (oZhjI)

435 It does not mean that a President can do things in contravention of the US Criminal Code inside the United States. That is outside his purview as Chief Executive.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (vcOmj)

Dude, this is the internet. This is no place for intelligent discussion.

Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2024 04:17 PM (1Yy3c)

436 That's how most still pictures are shot. They aren't "oh here's a good shot, let me take it [snaps pic]." They are culled from rapid-fire video.
Posted by: Elric Blade

I shoot video on my phone of the gKids and extract stills from them to get far better pictures of them than still shots would ever be. No cheesy, "Say, cheese!" faces, either.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Million frames a second. You can watch the bullet leave the gun and when it enters the apple.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (Wt5CP)

437 "She will be "resigned" within the week. Dr. Jill will sacrifice her to save her own skin. The Dems can't force out Biden, but they can force out this person. She will be given a nice pay package to be head of security at another company. She's gone."

===========

That's not going to happen.

Posted by: Jay in PA at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (i7Q7S)

438 372 Where did this fuckward put in his range time and where did he get the explosive materials?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (5MvGY)

The range: Clairton Sportsmen’s Club

The explosive materials? Unknown. Details are coming out more.

Investigators found a transmitter on the gunman’s lifeless body, CNN reported, citing an anonymous source.

Further examinations of Crooks’ vehicle revealed a receiver with wires connected to a metal box, possibly loaded with explosives, in the boot of his Hyundai Sudan.

I am guessing they meant Hyundai sedan. This says "possibly" loaded with explosives. I have heard it described as "rudimentary" but again this is the media. Afghan goatherders can make radio command detonated IEDs but then again they can literally get parts from the side of the road.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (xhfG9)

439 JFK and RFK wanted to get rid of them entirely. Not doing so probably cost both of them their lives.
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Saw yesterday:
JFK "put the dollar back on the gold standard"; assassinated
Trump: "put the dollar on Bitcoin standard;" nearly assassinated

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (pYl7Q)

440 >Do we know if shooter had a scope?

Iron sights. A shitty weapon.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (cf/0E)

441
I'm sure some will disagree but I think a doctor of education is completely qualified to pay off a billion dollar judgement by performing 'happy endings' at a massage parlor.

Joe done fvcked up so bad it's gonna be days before the legal paperwork is ready.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (RKVpM)

442 >> 425 Do we know if shooter had a scope?

The albeit grainy picture of it from the drone they obviously weren't using until after the crap went down didn't look like it did. You can see enough to know it was an AR, at least.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (Ij2uN)

443 How did the mob pull off the Lufthansa heist? It wasn't some brilliant Oceans 11 style break-in. Someone gave them the key. They knew they could get in.

The idea this kid just randomly walked up to a building 60 miles from home confident it was unguarded is the same thing. He knew he'd be able to get up there.

Walking in with a copy of the guard's key was a robbery of Air France ("Air France made me"); The Lufthansa heist had six armed robbers and inside information from a supervisor.

Your point still stands.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (yOPBE)

444 I've done a decent amount of competitive shooting with the military using iron sights, and the change in point of impact between 100, 200 and 300 yards is enough that, for a headshot, you'd want to know the distance as closely as possible, and adjust accordingly
Posted by: Military Moron

The scope on my AR does have drop etching points on the reticle to indicate (at 100, 200, 300 yards) how much the bullet will drop for a shot.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (vcOmj)

445 Could have been a collapsible ladder. I have one, it collapses down to about 30 inches tall and is 12 ft extended.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

The one in the picture, in the alcove behind the tall shrubs, is just a folded 10 foot aluminum A-frame ladder, leaned against the building. I've had many exactly like it.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (iRX3h)

446 Note that the assassin's social media/internet postings were scrubbed before his name was released.

Or...was it before?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (oZhjI)

447 Ginger Lynn was no Hyapatia Lee.

Listen, everyone knows Seka was the best in the biz followed closely by Barbara Dare.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:14 PM (XV/Pl)

Desiree Cousteau
Posted by: mrp

Aunt Peg taught Hawk Tau everything she knows.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (Wt5CP)

448
Why should we believe DHS about a supposed threat from Iran?

Since when have they told us the truth?

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (FlZoV)

449 Lana KANE

KANE KANE FUCKING THUNBS.

I hate posting from my phone

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (/+SQR)

450 440 >Do we know if shooter had a scope?

Iron sights. A shitty weapon.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (cf/0E)

I'd heard from a semi-reputable YouTuber that he had an Eotech on it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (xcxpd)

451 Oh just fuckitall

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (/+SQR)

452 The roof the Overwatch team was on was steeper than roof the shooter was on and highter

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (fwDg9)

453 Do we know if shooter had a scope?

Iron sights. A shitty weapon.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

A thousand dollar shitty weapon.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (Wt5CP)

454 Superman's other girlfriend Lana Lane?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (U0ECT)

455 LANA!!!!!!!

Posted by: Archer at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (Y8lzz)

456 Seka's little sister was no slouch, either.

Posted by: Cinemaniac at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (V5BDR)

457 New Lie: it was Iran! So I guess Cheatle failed to secure the roof on the Mullahs' orders?
Mayorkas is a very bad liar

Posted by: Enough BS at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (2NXcZ)

458 They need to send those BMI failure agents to the Canadian border looking for counterfeit bills at the Mohawk Casino.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (yxhux)

459 If the Secret Service did such a great job, let's have Biden speak at the same spot with the same security.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (pYl7Q)

460 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLamjgP5sU
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:15 PM (U0ECT)

Yum.

Have you seen this?

Gunship - Doom Dance

https://youtu.be/trF4sGKwfEQ

Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2024 04:20 PM (1Yy3c)

461 425 Do we know if shooter had a scope?
Posted by: Skip

I read earlier it was iron sights. Who knows.

You can be damn sure if it were a MAGA adjacent shooter we would have photos and serial numbers of the evil black gun.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (/U5Yz)

462
#1 Rule of the Federal Government:

They tell us only what They Want us to know.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (FlZoV)

463 Note: the shooter had people aware of what he was going to do. Whether it was Kos, DU, or some other leftist site he was talking about this for months ahead of time.

The job of the FBI right now is to make sure no one knows who those people are.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (oZhjI)

464 Great vid that someone made about Secret Service Barbie and her inability to reholster her weapon. It was done to the song "You had a bad Day"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (zte34)

465 and reasonable people like me

******
Don’t post that shit then. Incompetence all over the place—yes. That negates the grand conspiracy crap right on its face.

Posted by: Allen at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (i2xrd)

466 >> 372 Where did this fuckward...get the explosive materials?

I'm guessing from the same place he was recruited for this mission: the FBI.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (Ij2uN)

467 >>>Nobody involved will ever be held accountable for jack shit. Book it.
Posted by: ballistic

The cover-up fix is in. To my knowledge Mayorkas has still not named the head of the 'totally independent review." When in hell does that happen? How long will it take for all the team to be hired and begin actually reviewing and investigating? Are all buildings and the entire area of the Butler site still as they were nearly 72 hours ago? At this rate all the 'totally independent review' team will be able to do is review the FBI's investigation files, interview witnesses days or weeks after the event, and so on.

NTSB and NASA would have had independent investigation teams for an equivalent screw-up on the site by midnight Saturday.

Posted by: Gref at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (5fDan)

468 Iran?

Before the shooter was reported to be Chinese

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (U0ECT)

469 "I either read or heard Sunday they initially identified him through the rifle, so if they had a preliminary ID "

So they DO keep files on gun purchases.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (Cus5s)

470
I mean really, WTF does Iran have to do with any of this.

Fuckthis fake red herring bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (FlZoV)

471 Candace Bergen was only 52 when Murphy Brown aired. At the time, my much younger self thought she was somewhere in that vague 60-70 age range.

At any rate, she seemed a little too hard looking to me.

Cybil Shepard on the other hand....

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (fs1hN)

472 I'm guessing from the same place he was recruited for this mission: the FBI.

Oh come now...when do things like that ever happen?

Posted by: Armand submitting his receipt for "supplies" at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (oZhjI)

473 Ginger Lynn, when she was young, looked like Meg Ryan. She got into porn because she actually like the sex part of it. Never faked an orgasm, never had to.

She quit when it stopped being fun.*

*(And got sucked back into it again, sadly later)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (xcxpd)

474 They were looking for Christian Nationalists, not anti fags.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 16, 2024 04:11 PM (lTGtQ)

Which is a major problem for guards, unless you're looking for muscly rent boys to gay you up later. I'd be better off if one was a loyal fat girl. At least her eyes would work.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (AKKkq)

475 463 Note: the shooter had people aware of what he was going to do. Whether it was Kos, DU, or some other leftist site he was talking about this for months ahead of time.

The job of the FBI right now is to make sure no one knows who those people are.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:21 PM (oZhjI)

========

The ending of The Batman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

476
They are also going after Vance's wife for her 'connections' t a Supreme Court Justice.

Probably Kavanaugh, for whom she worked. CJ Roberts employed her, too.

Beach People, assemble! Form of ... a howling mob!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (1CG4q)

477 Correction: 12 foot ladder. Ten steps.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (iRX3h)

478 Welcome to the DEI killingfields.
That fat sow couldn’t run down a drunk on a three day bender.

Posted by: Redenzo at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (V/pbu)

479 50 in 2024 looks a lot younger then 50 did in say 1984...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (oZhjI)

480 Apparently social media is trying to push a narrative that MAGA is just now finding out Vance's wife is Indian an a Hindu, and are turning on Vance as VP because of course MAGA = racist.

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They sure love to just make things up out of thin air. It would be comical if I could laugh at their idiocy and complete predictability...which I can't. Delusion doesn't begin to describe these misfits.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (mupln)

481 399. Fox News reported earlier today that the shooting bought the ladder at Home Depot on Friday. Also bought ammo that day.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (uqmXz)

482 450 440 >Do we know if shooter had a scope?

Iron sights. A shitty weapon.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (cf/0E)

I'd heard from a semi-reputable YouTuber that he had an Eotech on it.
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Iron sights within 300m is normal. You don't want much magnification on an assault weapon. Field of View is your friend. Being stove piped in your view can get you killed.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (n17eQ)

483 Wtf was the sniper team inside the building doing while the guy was climbing up? Did they hear the ladder? Were they playing a game of Go Fish?

Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (HJ9BW)

484 Robert

Those two wanna-be chic cat-girls got nothing on Uni-chan and me.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (U0ECT)

485 372 Where did this fuckward put in his range time and where did he get the explosive materials?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2024 04:08 PM (5MvGY)

The range: Clairton Sportsmen’s Club

The explosive materials? Unknown. Details are coming out more.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:18 PM (xhfG9)

The explosive materials might be a whole lotta nothing. Could be a gas can. Could be leftover fireworks from Independence Day.

Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (1Yy3c)

486 So, if Cheeto has to resign, maybe Boeing can hire her as an engineer.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (0Htd1)

487 Do we know if shooter had a scope?
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We don't even know the caliber, do we?

Which I'm also adding as part of the "plot to let whatever happen"

Because a lot of "it wuz staged" folks are running with "it was a small caliber" in the deception that such isn't really deadly.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (pYl7Q)

488
They are desperate to change the regain the Fake News Cycle and change the Narrative, they'll say anything, including "Iran" and "the roof was too steep."

They're fcking with us.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (FlZoV)

489 Question: how do you become the head of the USSS if you're unqualifed?

Answer: you kim cheat'lil

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (NMT5x)

490 The idea this kid just randomly walked up to a building 60 miles from home confident it was unguarded is the same thing. He knew he'd be able to get up there.
Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (L+5ng)

This. The covering officers step down at the exact moment the shooter gets there and the all go inside to cool off and act as antisniper cover FROM IN THE BUILDING. And when every one is screaming at them shooter on the roof it's a total slow walk. Hey Billie how bout you go see what the ruckus is about. DERPTY DERP

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (uBBbP)

491 "I either read or heard Sunday they initially identified him through the rifle, so if they had a preliminary ID "

So they DO keep files on gun purchases.
Posted by: illiniwek

No need.
Call Ruger. Use serial number to find out what FFL it was sent to. Roll up to FFL. Examine the 4473 form to find out who bought it.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (Wt5CP)

492 Do we know if shooter had a scope?
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No. At his age, he wasn't at risk of colon cancer.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 16, 2024 04:23 PM (yxhux)

493 @456

>>Seka's little sister was no slouch, either.

My brother is the repository of all of the families media, if I asked him if had Uncle Harry's, "special 8mm collection, " he'd probably chuckle and ask me if I needed a care package.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (XV/Pl)

494 Wtf was the sniper team inside the building doing while the guy was climbing up? Did they hear the ladder? Were they playing a game of Go Fish?

And...YAHTZEE!!!

Hey did you guys hear something on the roof?

Posted by: Some SS agent at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (oZhjI)

495 Blaster, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (5MvGY)

496 The idea this kid just randomly walked up to a building 60 miles from home confident it was unguarded is the same thing. He knew he'd be able to get up there.
Posted by: the dandy

Did someone else put the ladder in place? It is actually behind some really big evergreen shrubs (arbor vitae??) and not easily visible from the parking lot.
Or did he come up on the roof from another building (roof exit ) next door and walk over that DANGEROUS sloped roof?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (vcOmj)

497 454 Superman's other girlfriend Lana Lane?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Better than Lana Rhodes, girlfriend to a million men.

Posted by: Perv Moron at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (JCZqz)

498 His car was a Hyundai Sonata - which is a sedan.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (xhfG9)

499 Anybody have a link to the national survey where 10% of the respondents said it was morally acceptable to use violence to prevent Trump from becoming President?

It was back a few months ago.

But....10%.

Saying that the events on Saturday would be acceptable.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (a1415)

500 If the Secret Service did such a great job, let's have Biden speak at the same spot with the same security

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And then amass a ton of those Palestinian "activists" to surround the place.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (mupln)

501 470. And they actually enhanced Trump's protection!
Did they finally get that Russia won't work? Or want another war?

Posted by: Enough BS at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (2NXcZ)

502 >> 372 Where did this fuckward...get the explosive materials?

I'm guessing from the same place he was recruited for this mission: the FBI.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser

Probably the same place that idiot Trump vanman in FL got his. They were barely flammable let alone explosive.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (/U5Yz)

503 50 in 2024 looks a lot younger then 50 did in say 1984...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:22 PM (oZhjI)

Yeah, she hit the wall. But younger years wowza. I was obsessed !

Posted by: Robert Reich at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (NtVYv)

504 >>> If you kill him, he becomes larger than life in the way JFK was. If you miss, you give him the most massive political boost ever and assure his election.
I have zero doubt elements in our government would have no problem killing Trump, it just seems to backfire on every goal.
I'm in the "DEI incompetence" camp.
Posted by: Blago at July 16, 2024 04:09 PM (wMRY

Unless it's some weird Hudsucker Proxy-style setup, using the young shooter as a patsy—or like how the Death Eaters used Draco to get into Hogwarts to kill Dumbledore—I don't think the deep state would leave the whole master plan of killing Trump to some untrained loser with bad aim.

I love conspiracy theories, and it's been fun to see all the speculation. But the Secret Service being full of incompetents, and some dumb lone zealot taking advantage of their incompetence, makes more sense.

Though with all the stuff about the deep state and the dems taking out JFK, you never know...

(btw, Trump needs to declassify every JFK document, or I'll be disappointed.)

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (Eng1Z)

505 "Crooks was reportedly spotted at the building 26 minutes before the incident."

And he was ON the roof for at least several minutes, while FBI were IN the building ... playing cards? People were screaming and pointing ... FBI too busy ... or complicit.

Stand Down in face of known shooter is Malice/Complicity as I see it.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (Cus5s)

506 Special agent Mrs. Vindman.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (ewjUl)

507 A spokesperson for Home Depot, where Crooks bought the ladder, said in a statement that “we condemn the violence against former President Trump, and our thoughts are with him, the other victims of Saturday’s horrific events, and their families.”

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (xhfG9)

508 Wtf was the sniper team inside the building doing while the guy was climbing up?

Probably banging one of the Midget Secret Cervix agents.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (Wt5CP)

509 If true, an Eotech is big dollars

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (NtVYv)

510 Fox News reported earlier today that the shooting bought the ladder at Home Depot on Friday.

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What we need is common sense ladder control!

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2024 04:26 PM (mupln)

511 Sanctioned.

Posted by: Eromero at July 16, 2024 04:26 PM (o2ZRX)

512 According to the Tweets collected here the team in the building SAW him and reported him, even took his picture

https://instapundit.com/660877/

Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2024 04:26 PM (HJ9BW)

513 >>> 499 Anybody have a link to the national survey where 10% of the respondents said it was morally acceptable to use violence to prevent Trump from becoming President?

It was back a few months ago.

But....10%.

Saying that the events on Saturday would be acceptable.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (a1415)

10% who *admitted* this to pollsters. How many "moderates" who said no giggled over the attempt?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 04:26 PM (VavZF)

514
>>Seka's little sister was no slouch, either.

OK, I am curious, what was her name?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 16, 2024 04:27 PM (ewjUl)

515 we all knew it was a setup on sunday evening, and not one single thing that has come out since then has done anything but cement that belief in place more firmly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at July 16, 2024 04:27 PM (UWgy2)

516 Better than Lana Rhodes, girlfriend to a million men.
Posted by: Perv Moron at July 16, 2024 04:24 PM (JCZqz)

Hey now...if you don't have to listen to her talk...hard to beat Lana Rhodes...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:27 PM (xcxpd)

517 USSS. Making the Uvalde Police Department look good.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 16, 2024 04:27 PM (yxhux)

518 I can kind of see why they increased security on Dr. Jill. Listening to that screeching voice would tend to make people homicidal.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (0Htd1)

519 The idea this kid just randomly walked up to a building 60 miles from home confident it was unguarded is the same thing. He knew he'd be able to get up there.

Consider the converse argument for a moment.

The first time (this year) an assassin wanders into a Trump rally he picks the one building security had allowed to be free. And this lucky guy manages to crawl into position without anyone doing anything in time and...take a shot. Really? The only "completely independent" assassin and he just gets insanely lucky at each step...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (oZhjI)

520 Almost every extention has rungs at 1 foot increments

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (fwDg9)

521 Oooh, got me on the diagonal again! I'm so bad at those

Posted by: the SS agents playing connect 4 at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (gKWVE)

522 A spokesperson for Home Depot, where Crooks bought the ladder, said in a statement that “we condemn the violence against former President Trump, and our thoughts are with him, the other victims of Saturday’s horrific events, and their families.”
Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM

We need common sense ladder control laws. Nobody should be able to just walk in and buy a ladder. Not to mention it will keep people off slopey roofs.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (ewjUl)

523 How does this bint still have a job?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (gselI)

524 What we need is common sense ladder control!

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You haven't seen the new OSHA standards for ladders have you?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (sX1BW)

525 Also the photographer with the ultra high speed camera who just happened to catch the vapor trail -- I'm wondering if he or she meant to catch the assassination. Such timing. Unless it's typical for photogs to use super high speed cameras for campaign speeches. Hell I don't know.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (iRX3h)

1000th of a second shutter speed was common even in the days of 35mm film cameras My Minolta SRT 100 had it, and I used it quite often. Especially in bright sun. Not uncommon at all. And that was back in the 70's. My digital SLR has even faster "shutter" speeds.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (iODuv)

526

Anthony Cumia, not a wacky "conspiracy theory" guy, very smart and funny, had a few thoughts about Blackrock. Not hard to believe, is all I'll say. The whole stream is good.

https://youtu.be/QKHSOWJ67xM

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (FlZoV)

527 Dow up 730. Record.
They know Trump Vance will will

Posted by: Redenzo at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (V/pbu)

528 How about removing Trump from the podium the moment they discovered the shooter?

Posted by: holygoat at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (fJxfr)

529 Field of View is your friend. Being stove piped in your view can get you killed.
Posted by: Pudinhead

So, still no update on the chupacabra in Piper's stove pipe?

Posted by: Roto Rooter at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (V5BDR)

530 >>> 523 How does this bint still have a job?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 16, 2024 04:28 PM (gselI)

BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (VavZF)

531 According to the Tweets collected here the team in the building SAW him and reported him, even took his picture

But they didn't at the very least allow this to happen!

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (Y8lzz)

532 Watching facts and conspiracies emerge, I'm wondering how this is similar to and different from the JFK event. What kind of evidence and proof is available in each case?

Posted by: Emmie at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (Sf2cq)

533 @236 - my favorite is an Acme Tornado; light, flat, loud

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (UWgy2)

534 That she hasn't been fired is one thing. She should have resigned in disgrace by about 8 o clock Saturday.

Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (HJ9BW)

535 MAYORKAS: "I have 100% confidence in the director of the United States Secret Service. I have 100% confidence in the United States Secret Service."

He and F'in Joe cannot say otherwise in public without immediate, widespread SS and DHS firings. They may or may not be furious behind closed doors and privately not trust the SS to protect the flowers in the Rose Garden. Can't admit it in public. Optics. Illusion of competence and calmness.

Posted by: Gref at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (5fDan)

536 523 How does this bint still have a job?
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Wyatt, you work for Philly. I can't believe you asked this question.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (n17eQ)

537 Secret Service Director Allegedly Didn't Want to Put Snipers on a Sloped Roof

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Well, a Slope roof is racist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (pQLwA)

538
I still think it was a one-in-a-million chance of dumb luck and incompetence. But...not certain.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (FlZoV)

539 Hey now...if you don't have to listen to her talk...hard to beat Lana Rhodes...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

It's not hard at all, from what I've ~~seen~~ heard others say about some of her rougher videos.

Posted by: Perv Moron at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (JCZqz)

540 The motive is too easy. Eliminate Trump before he picks a VP, wait for or stage right wing retaliation and use it to crack down on MAGA like J6 on steroids, make Nikki Haley the nominee and demoralize the base further to depress turnout, and presto, Biden wins, gets pillowed and Harris takes over.

Posted by: the dandy at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (L+5ng)

541 If true, an Eotech is big dollars
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

$500 to $600. The Ruger AR is $1k.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:30 PM (Wt5CP)

542 >>> Yesterday the Trump Family was still thanking the Secret Service

Thank them now, fire all their asses Jan 2025.

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (Eng1Z)

543 10% who *admitted* this to pollsters.
--'
Roughly 35 million makes between 18-34.

3.5 million in this country, military aged.

There are hundreds to thousands of potential assassins the left has radicalized.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (pYl7Q)

544 Iran?

Before the shooter was reported to be Chinese

==

we are this >< close to a Zionist Conspiracy

Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (V13WU)

545 Cop shoots and kills a suspect near RNC.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (xhfG9)

546 By the way, did everyone else enjoy the lack of muzzle discipline displayed by the girlboss agent who couldn't holster her firearm?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (tT6L1)

547 534 That she hasn't been fired is one thing. She should have resigned in disgrace by about 8 o clock Saturday.
Posted by: steevy

Trump DID mention during the debate that Biden is a pushover and doesn't fire people who fail.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (JCZqz)

548 I still think it was a one-in-a-million chance of dumb luck and incompetence. But...not certain.

If the SS/FBI had arrested a few people previously that did get caught wandering onto a site I'd believe it.

But the first guy gets through everything to the point where he gets to take the shot? Sorry...not believable.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (oZhjI)

549 How does this bint still have a job?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Hey, nice kneepads!

Posted by: Joe Biden....President Meat Puppet at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (vcOmj)

550 Her boss, DHS Secretary Mayorkas, who has repeatedly perjured himself insisting that "the border is secure," says he has 100% confidence in Cheatle and her Fox Force Five of chubby, clumsy short women.

That alone is damming coming from Mayorkas who is an admin. stooge and highly incompetent.

Female USSS agent:\

Gum in mouth - Check
Sunglasses on - Check
Pulling Down/straightening blazer - check
Hair in place - Check
Holstering weapon - FAIL
Knowing what's going on - FAIL
Protecting #45/#47 - FAIL
Loss of Life & Injury - Check

Posted by: Cats Everywhere at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (oiNtH)

551 The attempted assassination as it happened.

https://is.gd/mHWAmB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (pQLwA)

552 527 Dow up 730. Record.
They know Trump Vance will will
Posted by: Redenzo

Gold at record high right now.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (/U5Yz)

553 Hey now...if you don't have to listen to her talk...hard to beat Lana Rhodes...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo

Barbara Rhoades was fun to look at back in her day.

Posted by: Statuesque! at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (V5BDR)

554 >>> 549 How does this bint still have a job?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Hey, nice kneepads!
Posted by: Joe Biden....President Meat Puppet at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (vcOmj)

Thanks!

Posted by: Kamala Harris at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (VavZF)

555 546 By the way, did everyone else enjoy the lack of muzzle discipline displayed by the girlboss agent who couldn't holster her firearm?

I think that was the same person that was hiding behind the other SS people when they were getting Trump up.

Posted by: ryukyu at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (lmKVt)

556 529 Field of View is your friend. Being stove piped in your view can get you killed.
Posted by: Pudinhead

So, still no update on the chupacabra in Piper's stove pipe?
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Do we know he had one? Basic marksman can hit a target at 150m from the prone position using iron sights. If he belonged to a rifle club implies he has zeroed the weapon unlike Lee Harvey.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (n17eQ)

557 Over at Insty, Sean Davis and Olivia Rinaldi have a series of tweets of what transpired around the shooter'd building.

Read them and think.

One of the government snipers reported that he saw the assassin (before he climbed the building) looking at his phone.

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:32 PM (rj6Yv)

558 Yesterday the Trump Family was still thanking the Secret Service

Thank them now, fire all their asses Jan 2025.
Posted by: LizLem

Exactly. They're still guarding him lol.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 16, 2024 04:33 PM (JCZqz)

559 I don't blame Trump for not publicly saying anything against the Secret Service

Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2024 04:33 PM (HJ9BW)

560 Off kitty sock!

Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2024 04:33 PM (oiNtH)

561 It's tricky when your fat folds roll over your holster.

The struggle is real.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 16, 2024 04:33 PM (yxhux)

562 Peak Ginger Lynn was in the 1980s.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 16, 2024 04:33 PM (xT7BI)

563 I read he bought a 5ft ladder, but somehow used a taller one?

Posted by: enough BS at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (2NXcZ)

564 557 I posted the link at 512

Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (HJ9BW)

565 we are this >
Posted by: runner

Well, you apparently never wade into the comments at Zero Hedge, do you?

I like to read the articles, but two minutes into the comments, and sometimes I feel like I have to hit my had with a hammer, to distract from what I read.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (vcOmj)

566 It wasn't just "Jill going to Pittsburgh", Kamlalala was in Philly, Joe was in Detroit...the goal was to lock up the major media from the major regional media centers, keeping Trump off the air. Byproduct was a super heavy "Duty" day for all of the SS Protective details, they had to cover both ladies start points, plus airports, their motorcades to the airports, their landing sites, motorcades from those, as well as the trips back out/home...AND the Venues themselves.(Likely had to fly in their armored limos and escort vehicles as well) As well as Joes in Detroit.
Pa State police security details also had to cover all three visitations.

Wanna bet they offered 1 on 1 camera time to the major local networks to INSURE they got solid coverage, and Trump got butkisss.

ALL of the Team Biden events were "suddenly announced", Loooong after Trumps raly was already sceduled and booked.

Posted by: birdog at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (lWs+l)

567 Uh, why was the HEAD of the Secret Service, someone with NO training at all, making tactical decisions?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (xaFKb)

568 Secret Service Director Allegedly Didn't Want to Put Snipers on a Sloped Roof
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I'm guessing she's using this lame excuse as cover because the real reason is even worse.

Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (G0vdT)

569 $2480.00 gold
$31.48 silver

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (Wt5CP)

570
Condemning the SS would be very politically stupid. Trump is saying all the right things.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (FlZoV)

571 Barbara Rhoades was fun to look at back in her day.
Posted by: Statuesque!

Oh yeah. She turned up in a bit role on a Kolchak episode and I did a "Yowza!" take.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (v6JzV)

572 531 According to the Tweets collected here the team in the building SAW him and reported him, even took his picture

But they didn't at the very least allow this to happen!
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 16, 2024 04:29 PM (Y8lzz)

And yet no one stopped him.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (uBBbP)

573 I don't think the Horde is ready for Cheri in her catgirl outfit

Posted by: gKWVE at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (gKWVE)

574 I like to read the articles, but two minutes into the comments, and sometimes I feel like I have to hit my had with a hammer, to distract from what I read.

If you ever want to have fun wade into threads around the left/Junta screwing with Israel.

The posters can't make up their mind who they hate more...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (oZhjI)

575 Shooting by security at RNC convention of a homeless guy swinging knives at cop. I have a feeling this will increase craziness in Milwaukee

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (zte34)

576 Would Jill Biden eliminate Trump in an effort to remain First Lady and acting president? Well, she’s been riding Joe like a rented mule. If she’ll spend Joe’s golden years like that…

Was there a “I’m Jill Biden, and I approved this shooting” moment? It’s hard to rule out.

Posted by: Advo at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (jO4mz)

577 Johnson needs to subpoena every one of these snipers and offer immunity to tell the truth.

I crack myself up.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (/U5Yz)

578 How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States?

That's why it says "Secret" in our name, dummy!

Posted by: USSS at July 16, 2024 04:35 PM (qL8Uu)

579 I noticed on YT streams a definite increase in trolls pushing the "both sides" line "right wing does the sane thing" etc

Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2024 04:36 PM (HJ9BW)

580 Gold at record high right now.
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Really?

F**k.

Posted by: Senator Bob Menendez at July 16, 2024 04:36 PM (yxhux)

581 we are this >
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (V13WU

Well they're going with Iran. On Sunday they started yapping about a "foreign connection". Russia is played out, Biden loves China, so voila, Iran! After all they're paying the Pali protestors too, so why not?

Cheatle is not an Iranian name, so I still think it's a homegrown terror plot.

Posted by: enough BS at July 16, 2024 04:36 PM (2NXcZ)

582 This may have been covered elsewhere, but how did the assassin walk through security and crowds with a ladder and a rifle, not necessarily at the same time?
Secondly, the day before he went to the range and then went to the hardware store to buy a ladder and ammo. So he already knew he needed a ladder. Had he scouted the shooting location prior to this? Or had someone told him he would need a ladder?

Posted by: Ciampino - Tue Update #05 at July 16, 2024 04:36 PM (qfLjt)

583 575 Shooting by security at RNC convention of a homeless guy swinging knives at cop. I have a feeling this will increase craziness in Milwaukee
----------------
Mainstreaming mental illness was a really bad idea.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 16, 2024 04:36 PM (n17eQ)

584 By the way, DHS putting out a "on the lookout for right wing retaliation" is called "setting the narrative" should something happen to Joe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 16, 2024 04:37 PM (tT6L1)

585 A spokesperson for Home Depot, where Crooks bought the ladder, said in a statement that “we condemn the violence against former President Trump, and our thoughts are with him, the other victims of Saturday’s horrific events, and their families.”
Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:25 PM (xhfG9)

POWERFUL

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 04:37 PM (lX8VI)

586 575 Shooting by security at RNC convention of a homeless guy swinging knives at cop. I have a feeling this will increase craziness in Milwaukee
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Great. Now we can have the Lefties freak out about Republicans murdering the unhoused instead of helping them, along with tying it to the recent SCOTUS decision allowing laws to restrict homeless encampments.

Barbarism!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 16, 2024 04:37 PM (JCZqz)

587 >>> 584 By the way, DHS putting out a "on the lookout for right wing retaliation" is called "setting the narrative" should something happen to Joe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 16, 2024 04:37 PM (tT6L1)

*cackles*

Posted by: Kamala Harris at July 16, 2024 04:37 PM (VavZF)

588 The ladder thing has been debunked. The shooter accessed the roof from climbing up an air conditioning unit.

Still looking for the counter sniper in the tree though.

Posted by: JROD at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (IlL6s)

589 Uh, why was the HEAD of the Secret Service, someone with NO training at all, making tactical decisions?

And who told her to make this one? (anybody? NSA?)

Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (qL8Uu)

590 "condemn the violence"

He forgot the buzzword "political".

We condemn the political violence.

EMOTIONAL STUFF

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (lX8VI)

591 But the important question is How many SS agents are on Valerie Jarret's Protection Team?!

Posted by: JB1000 at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (lp0ty)

592 >>> They are also going after Vance's wife for her 'connections' to a Supreme Court Justice.

Ooh, I have a new fun theory, since we are all just making up stories on Vance and his wife now.

Vance, his wife, and Vivek Ramaswamy are all friends. Vance and his wife named one of their kids Vivek...

Vivek had a secret love child with Vivek, and names the kid after him!!

It's as stupid as any of the media's other theories, so..

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (Eng1Z)

593 $31.48 silver
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (Wt5CP)

Wow, I see that's had a real run this year.

Posted by: spindrift at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (OguvZ)

594 To be totally honest I worked utilities and you'd be astonished at where you can go carrying a ladder.
I'm not kidding.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (bFId9)

595 584 By the way, DHS putting out a "on the lookout for right wing retaliation" is called ~~"setting the narrative" should something~~ priming the pump, hoping something happens to Joe.

Posted by: blake

Recommended edit.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (JCZqz)

596 The Dems will do what the Dems do whenever they're called to a congressional hearing:

"There's nothing we can add, congressman. This is an ongoing criminal investigation. (shut up so I can finish my shrimp cocktail)"

Posted by: mrp at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (rj6Yv)

597 every thread is 500+ comments

Posted by: Don Black heard things at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (/7KEl)

598 Looking at the way the COVID revelations occurred, can we skip the 2 year saga of all the gaslighting where we weren’t allowed to state the obvious and slow drips of the truth coming out? This was planned, and key players did their best to make it happen, just call it how it is.

Posted by: Crazy at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (7kR0x)

599 I'd snark, "if one counter sniper team is good enough for Trump, it's enough for Biden."

Except Biden hasn't had an outdoor event since the Chrysler Jeep Dodge event of campaign workers honking from the cars in 2020.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (pYl7Q)

600 567 Uh, why was the HEAD of the Secret Service, someone with NO training at all, making tactical decisions?
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (xaFKb)

She wasn't. She was asked a question why the roof wasn't covered. She chose to lie about it. I mean, why not just say whatever ridiculous thing comes to mind, it isn't like the press is going to push back or there are any possible bad consequences.

I mean, you are the head of an agency that's primary mission is to take bullets for protectees and you go with "well it was too dangerous" as an excuse?

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (xhfG9)

601 >>> 592 >>> They are also going after Vance's wife for her 'connections' to a Supreme Court Justice.

Ooh, I have a new fun theory, since we are all just making up stories on Vance and his wife now.

Vance, his wife, and Vivek Ramaswamy are all friends. Vance and his wife named one of their kids Vivek...

Vivek had a secret love child with Vivek, and names the kid after him!!

It's as stupid as any of the media's other theories, so..

Posted by: LizLem at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (Eng1Z)

Vivek R. is the Vances' bull?! He never returns MY calls!!!

Posted by: David French at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (VavZF)

602 The security guy at the RNC who did the shooting was a Columbus Ohio cop apparently on line to Milwaukee. The protesters will be going nuts now

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (zte34)

603 It's tricky when your fat folds roll over your holster.

The struggle is real.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Best belt & holster?
1873 SSA Colt Peacemaker.
Hang is proper. Grab is right where your hand is at rest.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (Wt5CP)

604 38 Why you say "rooftop slope"?

You got problem with rooftop slope?
Posted by: Rooftop Korean at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM

That’s just gold!

Posted by: Advo at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (jO4mz)

605 My guess is he was executing a plan requested by the hardcore Pub partisans that were worried Lincoln would go soft on the Confederates. They wanted and got the complete destruction of the South and Lincoln was a matyr.
Posted by: Pudinhead

If you read The Ghost of Jekyll Island, about the history of the Federal Reserve and national banks in general, the authors are of this very opinion. They thought that Lincoln's "With malice toward none, with charity toward all" talk meant the doom of Northern industrialists' prospects of profiteering off the South. I don't agree with it, but I think that it's an interesting take.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (v6JzV)

606 I think that was the same person that was hiding behind the other SS people when they were getting Trump up.
Posted by: ryukyu

It was and she should be immediately fired for that alone. Work the drive in at Arby's where she might not get someone killed. Maybe.

Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (oiNtH)

607 Nood O'Keefe

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 16, 2024 04:40 PM (eYoxG)

608 >>> 594 To be totally honest I worked utilities and you'd be astonished at where you can go carrying a ladder.
I'm not kidding.
Posted by: LenNeal at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (bFId9)

Have you found that it helps to wear one of those neon SEEFTY vests?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 16, 2024 04:41 PM (VavZF)

609 No matter the cost of the Carbine and scope, doubt the owner will get it back

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:41 PM (fwDg9)

610 Also about the fem-agents...they all kept taking their glasses on and off, even in the middle of the scrum...with their GUN HAND

Posted by: birdog at July 16, 2024 04:41 PM (lWs+l)

611 The ladder thing has been debunked. The shooter accessed the roof from climbing up an air conditioning unit.
-
Source?

Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2024 04:41 PM (Dnobf)

612 Maybe Director Cheatle has attempted to fit the personnel and abilities to the best use as she found them, and realizes that fat people make better bullet sponge

Posted by: Kindltot at July 16, 2024 04:41 PM (D7oie)

613 How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States?

Let me lay out a potential scenario...

On the one side you have the person that leads that particular site - he/she (not sure if it is Cheatle) just...makes sure to leave a location open at each site. If caught you just claim...THAT roof was too sloped or whatever.

On the other side you have the people who deal with the known wolves. The guy who leads the effort in the particular locale Trump is coming to hits the locale forums once the rally it planned. He starts engaging with people talking about taking direct action and...spin them up. If this Armand or whoever was he actually questioned he'd just claim he was getting the confidence of these people...like those feds did with the fake Whitmer kidnapping...

Neither resource has direct knowledge of what the other is doing and so they have perfect deniability.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (oZhjI)

614 every thread is 500+ comments
Posted by: Don Black'

Yeah well I've been here ranting aimlessly before this, so...

...Nyah!

Also I'm getting emails from nervous Eastern European contacts wanting to know 'What It Means' etc. They think it's a revolution and are getting scared as shit.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (bFId9)

615 >DHS putting out a "on the lookout for right wing retaliation"
----

by those right-wing militia groups no one can seem to find

Posted by: Don Black heard things at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (/7KEl)

616 $31.48 silver
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (Wt5CP)

Wow, I see that's had a real run this year.
Posted by: spindrift

Look at buying. It's up in the 37 $38 range.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (Wt5CP)

617 Two counter sniper teams to four counter sniper teams now to three counter sniper teams, shooter walking around with ladder and range finder, shooter accessed roof from air conditioning unit, USSS took pics of the guy walking around, only two counter sniper teams listed on rally sight overlay, counter sniper in tree took out shooter............so much for the 48 hour rule.

Posted by: JROD at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (IlL6s)

618

noood

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (FlZoV)

619 So he already knew he needed a ladder. Had he scouted the shooting location prior to this? Or had someone told him he would need a ladder?
Posted by: Ciampino - Tue Update #05 at July 16, 2024 04:36 PM (qfLjt)

These are good questions. No one has posited how he might have known this area yet.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (xhfG9)

620 I'm not kidding.
Posted by: LenNeal at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (bFId9)

Have you found that it helps to wear one of those neon SEEFTY vests?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket'

Clipboard and a hard hat. Take you ANYWHERE.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (bFId9)

621 Aunt Peg taught Hawk Tau everything she knows.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (Wt5CP)

I see you misspelled "Nina Hartley"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (D7oie)

622 RECALL THE NOOD

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:43 PM (xhfG9)

623 @611 Methos-Matt Walsh video from two hours ago on Youtube.

Posted by: JROD at July 16, 2024 04:43 PM (IlL6s)

624 Nood is gone

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (NtVYv)

625 We been hoodwinked by a blind man!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (pYl7Q)

626 621 Aunt Peg taught Hawk Tau everything she knows.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 16, 2024 04:19 PM (Wt5CP)

I see you misspelled "Nina Hartley"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (D7oie)

She does love to teach...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

627 There was a new thread then it disappeared

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (fwDg9)

628 disappearing nood.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (tT6L1)

629 Nood is back

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (NtVYv)

630 Ace is practicing postus interruptus.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (IG4Id)

631 It wasn't a whole lot of people in on The Plot to Assassinate Trump. It was several not doing a good job of security, leaving some voids. If there was manipulation of Crooks in some way, it would have been by a select few, that have covered up many crimes in the past.

How many people were in on the Fauci/Birx scam, which netted a lot of people a lot of kickbacks (many billions, I forget the number). They killed a half million or so with their terrible advice ... all happily (covertly) took the money.

But the wetwork stuff also happens, lots of "suicides" too.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (Cus5s)

632 I read most of it, it was real

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:44 PM (fwDg9)

633 The Nood is back. Repeat. the nood is back

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2024 04:45 PM (xhfG9)

634 Out: Ghost Guns

In: Ghost Threads

Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2024 04:45 PM (oZhjI)

635 NOOD IS A GO

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2024 04:45 PM (fwDg9)

636
If you put a 'bullseye' on a guy worth a billion dollars and put his life in jeopardy by the remark, proven by an attempt on his life within five days, I think a billion dollar judgement is being kind.

Homeless Jill is best Jill.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 16, 2024 04:45 PM (RKVpM)

637 >Also I'm getting emails from nervous Eastern European contacts wanting to know 'What It Means' etc

yell them 'family feud'
gotta happen every 5 years, ten years
gets rid of the bad blood

Posted by: Don Black heard things at July 16, 2024 04:46 PM (/7KEl)

638 And who told her to make this one? (anybody? NSA?)
Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2024 04:38 PM (qL8Uu)

Probably Mayorkas, her boss. He does not want the border closed, he wants a massive foreign proletariat.

Anyway, nobody could have expected the truth: We decided to take him out, and most NTs don't have drones.
So we found a weird, lonely, loner to be our patsy. Then we wreaked havoc with security that day, left an open line of vision from a slightly sloped roof, and decided to put our best counter sniper in a tree where he could do a lot of not-so-counter stuff, and then kill the patsy. The patsy was white, weird, and worked as a dietary aid, so it was easy to"befriend him". He didn't like Pet Clark, but then we didn't have to drug the fuck outta him and put him in his RV.

Posted by: enough BS at July 16, 2024 04:46 PM (2NXcZ)

639 568 Secret Service Director Allegedly Didn't Want to Put Snipers on a Sloped Roof
-----

I'm guessing she's using this lame excuse as cover because the real reason is even worse.

Posted by: WisRich at July 16, 2024 04:34 PM (G0vdT)
----
Slopey?
https://tinyurl.com/4mpcjxmz

Slopey?
https://tinyurl.com/2jsmejj2

Posted by: Ciampino - Tue Update #06 at July 16, 2024 04:46 PM (qfLjt)

640 ElonMusk's twitter/X posts about this are en fuego. Check it out if you can.

Posted by: Peaches at July 16, 2024 04:47 PM (14URa)

641 nood Disney

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 16, 2024 04:47 PM (wse2C)

642 By the way, DHS putting out a "on the lookout for right wing retaliation" is called ~~"setting the narrative"should something~~ priming the pump, hoping something happens to Joe.

Posted by: blake

Recommended edit.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM

This guy gets it

Posted by: Desert Pete at July 16, 2024 04:47 PM (yOPBE)

643 I see you misspelled "Nina Hartley"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 16, 2024 04:42 PM (D7oie)
She does love to teach...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards'

The Ex, in a deluded moment of thinking our marriage could be rekindled, later told me she got one of Hartley's Oral Surgery videos.
I admit, lady knows her stuff.
Did not save our marriage but it's not like Nina Hartley is Mother Theresa.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 16, 2024 04:48 PM (bFId9)

644 I don't think the Horde is ready for Cheri in her catgirl outfit
Posted by: gKWVE

Hmmm....how did you know I had one?

Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2024 04:48 PM (oiNtH)

645 SS Sniper teams and schools were initiated in 1971...Saturday was the 1st shot ever fired while on duty.
There was a seldom mentioned 3rd "assassination" event with Gerald Ford, he was in a motorcade in Missouri and a rifle was seen aiming through an upstairs window at the route, motorcade stopped, agents swarmed the building ran up the stairs, kicked in the door and found...a 14yo Boy trying to watch the president pass by through his daddy's rifle scope.

Posted by: birdog at July 16, 2024 04:50 PM (lWs+l)

646 Sloped roof, my hinder.

"It's been forty years. Fork it, let's just stay in the A/C"

It's no more complicated than that.

Posted by: SouthCentralPA at July 16, 2024 04:51 PM (6mBpS)

647 Except Biden hasn't had an outdoor event since the Chrysler Jeep Dodge event of campaign workers honking from the cars in 2020.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 16, 2024 04:39 PM (pYl7Q)

Those cars were brand new, and empty. There are grimmer signs of dystopia, but that was a bad one.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at July 16, 2024 04:54 PM (AKKkq)

648 Lester Holt interview...he asked Biden if he had spoken to the Head of SS service...Biden said, "I just got off the phone with HIM"

Posted by: birdog at July 16, 2024 04:54 PM (lWs+l)

649 While I am here for Sean and can't dismiss his theory out of hand, I think you are probably right Ace in that this is just DEI played out to its inevitable conclusion. Trump had C-team protection on Saturday. Notice the difference between then and last night at the convention. If the terrible events of Saturday night can serve as one more nail in the coffin of DEI, then perhaps the death of Corey Comperatore won't have been completely in vain.

Epic and justified rant by Educated Hillbilly.

Posted by: NAB at July 16, 2024 04:54 PM (3sHsl)

650 Must-see video:

https://tinyurl.com/3zmz2rbj

“And yesterday, what happened, I have no doubts in my mind that the shooter had help from somewhere within an agency, an organization, or the government,” the veteran sniper said.

Posted by: Beverly at July 16, 2024 04:58 PM (Epeb0)

651 Ginger Lynn was no Hyapatia Lee.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2024 04:12 PM (LL0dp)

Ginger Lynn had the 'girl next door' look. That's what made her so popular. Or so I've been told. By friends.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 16, 2024 04:59 PM (iODuv)

652 How do you go about recruiting that many people into a plot to murder the president of the United States?

Can't imagine finding enough people who hate Trump that much.

Posted by: ... at July 16, 2024 05:04 PM (lX8VI)

653 "Has all the earmarks of an op."

Posted by: Mr. Barky at July 16, 2024 05:08 PM (gG51d)

654 How do you go recruiting? Don't have to. Just stir up a ton of hate and fear on one hand, then provide terrible security on the other and wait for the inevitable.

Posted by: Tom at July 16, 2024 05:11 PM (8J80s)

655 During a CBS News interview in May 2023, Cheatle stated the Secret Service, which had a 48% departure rate, needed to "attract diverse candidates and give opportunities to everybody in the workforce, particularly women." She said she aims to have 30% women in the agency by 2030.(meaning hiring would have to exceed 60% female:male ratio)

This was upon her RETURN to the agency, she had stepped away to pepsico the year before after being in charge of all recruitment , training and SS educational programs. The system SHE had previously implemented resulted in that 48% departure rate.

Posted by: birdog at July 16, 2024 05:14 PM (lWs+l)

656 Supposed credible Iranian threat.
SS downsizing guard detail.
Third subs put in SS place.
Flat roof* deemed 'too steep'.

Sounds like The Blob was trying to set the stage for success.

*gotta check codes but that roof slope is so shallow it may catagorized as a flat roof under typical building codes.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 16, 2024 05:15 PM (cOq4q)

657 PS: a ponytail in a fight is a ROPE. Your assailant can grab you by it and slam your head into a wall, cracking your skull.

Notice also that the chubby one was photographed ducking BEHIND Trump when the bullets started flying....

Yes, of course it was a Deep State hit. All this DEI crap is just a distraction.

Posted by: Beverly at July 16, 2024 05:17 PM (Epeb0)

658 "If you wanted to orchestrate conspiracies, staffing everything with incompetents would (a) ensure that no one was around who has the savvy to detect your machinations; (b) and provide a plausible alternative to intentional misdeeds, namely, incompetence. I don't think DEI is incompatible with conspiracy theories at all."

Exactly.

Posted by: Beverly at July 16, 2024 05:20 PM (Epeb0)

659 38 Why you say "rooftop slope"?

You got problem with rooftop slope?
Posted by: Rooftop Korean at July 16, 2024 03:29 PM (f4l+T)

Well at least the SS Director didn't offer the explanation that "slope" is racist. So she has that going for her. Which is good.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at July 16, 2024 05:24 PM (gG51d)

660 Iran?

Before the shooter was reported to be Chinese

==

we are this >
Posted by: runner at July 16, 2024 04:31 PM (V13WU)

There are many neocon factions who all want to start a war with somebody.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 16, 2024 05:24 PM (eoQWY)

661 A small correction: That should be *Impeached* DHS Secretary Mayorkas. Granted, the Democratic-controlled Senate tossed the article of impeachment into the round file (it seems that failing to protect our borders is not an impeachable offense to them), he still was and always will have been impeached. So we should use the proper form of his title.

Posted by: Nemo at July 16, 2024 05:26 PM (S6ArX)

662 Secret Service needs to hire more agents from the 10th Mountain Division.

Posted by: Goatweed at July 16, 2024 05:29 PM (KRyeA)

663 The incompetence theory is the comfort food of the right because it fits our preconceived ideas that government is inherently incompetent. COVID demonstrated that when it wants to, government is very competent in using panic to manipulate and control the population. We have had little oopsies like this regularly since 9/11 in which we fool ourselves into thinking that as long as we get the right policies and people in place that everything can go back to normal again.

The fact is that our elites have long since figured out that having a crises every now and again is a great way for them to consolidate and centralize power over the rest of us. If you think that this just happened you're indulging in a dangerous and willful naivete.

Posted by: Eric Dale at July 16, 2024 05:31 PM (CXnGJ)

664 But I'm posting his theory anyway. I want the Secret Service to know that if they have another "oopsie," or continue sending more snipers to protect Jill Biden at a small indoor event than to protect the Once and Future President at an outdoor event, murder and conspiracy to commit murder charges are in the offing, and reasonable people like me will vote to convict you of murder even if what we really believe you're guilty of is gross negligence and woke incompetence.

At the very least, we will demand everyone involved be impeached and have all of their pension payments cancelled and zeroed out.

———

Snort. THAT’LL show em.

You can’t possibly believe that.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 16, 2024 05:42 PM (377Ja)

665 ndbTABrafWg

Posted by: HivJCWPM at July 16, 2024 05:42 PM (Aj8Gf)

666 Hey everybody, lay off. Shit happens.

Posted by: Epstein's Guards at July 16, 2024 05:46 PM (woPEM)

667 Because a lot of "it wuz staged" folks are running with "it was a small caliber" in the deception that such isn't really deadly.
But...but...but, Biden said a .223 would blow your lung out!!!

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 16, 2024 06:11 PM (XMwZJ)

668 The team in that building was locals. The fuckup here on the USSS end was either allowing them to go inside, or not allowing but not verifying they were in place.

If Cheeto lady is making excuses then it sounds like the former, and this screams to me that the USSS agent in charge on site was a diversity hire of some sort if she is ass covering for them.

Posted by: somedood at July 16, 2024 06:26 PM (0Id/K)

669 "That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof."
---------

Echos of "We have a stopped up commode. We must stop the counting..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 16, 2024 06:28 PM (XeU6L)

670 "That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof."
-----

I have a feeling that she does not understand the primary resposibility and function of the SS

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 16, 2024 06:30 PM (XeU6L)

671 and we go back to hoping the next guy uses a Century Arms CETME???

I have a Century Arms CETME, with the correct bayonet btw. It would have made that shot easily. Easier than a 5.56.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 16, 2024 06:46 PM (aD39U)

672 “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,”

News Item;
"Thousands of roofing contractors injured falling off roofs after reading remarks by Kimberly Cheatle and are overcome by fits of laughter. Tree trimmers warned to avoid sloped tree limbs."

Posted by: timactual at July 17, 2024 02:06 PM (krsvl)

673 Avec une interface simple d’utilisation, vous pouvez parier sur les dernières compétitions comme la Ligue 1, Ligue
2, Champions League et bien d’autre.

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