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Mistrial Declared in Karen Read Trial as Jury Deadlocks

I haven't followed this at all, but I see commenters are interested.

Mistrial. Jury can't decided between guilty or not guilty.

Karen Read's murder-or-conspiracy murder trial, scripted like a TV drama, ends in a mistrial.

The Massachusetts jury, which has been deadlocked for days, didn't come to a unanimous decision about Karen Read's innocence or guilty after nearly 26 hours of deliberations.

Read was accused of killing her Boston police officer boyfriend in January 2022. Read claimed she was framed in an elaborate cover-up to protect the Alberts, an influential family with deep law enforcement ties.

The jurors said in a note that they were"deeply divided" because of "deeply held convictions" and a "consensus is unattainable."

Read is accused of purposely backing into John O'Keefe with her SUV during a booze-infused fight in January 2022 and letting him die on the front lawn of a Canton, Massachusetts, home during a nor'easter.

O'Keefe's body was found in several inches of snow outside the home of Boston police officer Brian Albert.

She pleaded not guilty to charges of second-degree murder, motor vehicle manslaughter while driving under the influence and leaving the scene of a collision causing injury and death.

Jurors heard 74 witnesses and examined over 700 pieces of evidence. The jury has sent multiple notes to the judge, saying they have been deadlocked since late last week.


One single holdout, maybe?

Aidan Kearney
@DoctorTurtleboy

Juror #7 took a deep breath and looked up to the ceiling when Judge Cannone instructed them to go back in and deliberate. Either she's really frustrated with one or more of the other jurors who is holding out with "guilty," or she is the lone guilty vote. She is acting noticeably different from all other jurors who are not showing any emotions.

That guy is a "controversial blogger" who supports Read.

I'll leave the commentary to the commenters -- I have no idea what's going on in this case, at all.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:36 PM




Comments

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1 I have no idea about this case

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:37 PM (N1DT3)

2 I'll leave the commentary to the commenters -- I have no idea what's going on in this case, at all.

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What's a trial?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

3 You go Ace.
I have no idea about this case nor do I care.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 03:37 PM (at8hB)

4 I know nothing about this case.

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 03:38 PM (UnA8+)

5 No idea, either -

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies' Brigade plucky comic relief at July 01, 2024 03:38 PM (SRRAx)

6 I vaguely recall Turtleboy being arrested.

He claimed he was investigating, the FNM claimed he was "harassing" the people involved in the case.

As he is the only reporter I've ever heard of being arrested for annoying people I assume he's telling the truth...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:39 PM (oZhjI)

7 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

There's always the 1967 Phillies we could talk about.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:39 PM (GBKbO)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Where are the controversial fucking bloggers when you need them?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 01, 2024 03:39 PM (ZtgZZ)

10 didn't come to a unanimous decision about Karen Read's innocence or guilty after nearly 26 hours of deliberations.


Are there no editors anymore?

Goodness......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

11 She looks guilty to me. To the pyre!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:40 PM (xCA6C)

12 Obama got away with murder.

Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2024 03:40 PM (x22hb)

13 I think the Land of the Bean and the Cod is more of a confederacy of tribes than it is a "commonwealth".

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (rj6Yv)

14 2 I'll leave the commentary to the commenters -- I have no idea what's going on in this case, at all.

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What's a trial?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Trials are like shelves--finish with one, you have more to follow.

Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (/0X3E)

15 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

That's a barrelling.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (oZhjI)

16 Judge C. Blazey Ford!

She and Merchan need to do an OnlyFans show.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (ZtgZZ)

17 >>> 11 She looks guilty to me. To the pyre!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:40 PM (xCA6C)

Did she turn you into a newt?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (llON8)

18 14 What's a trial?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=======
Trials are like shelves--finish with one, you have more to follow.
Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (/0X3E)

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Sounds dangerous. Probably requires high-tech equipment.

Do they make drills that go both ways now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

19 Who?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (K861k)

20 Boobs

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (u73oe)

21 Did she kill the manager?

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (xPl2J)

22 So, how long does this mean Trump will be in jail?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

23 16 Judge C. Blazey Ford!

She and Merchan need to do an OnlyFans show.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (ZtgZZ)

There's already enough exploding heads because of the SCOTUS ruling on Presidential Immunity, we don't need more (and for the very wrong reason!) today, .

Posted by: Thrawn at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (uGhsv)

24 >>>7 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

25 She looks guilty to me. To the pyre!

She raped me in a busy Boston Department Store.

When? How would I know.

But it is etched in my memory!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (oZhjI)

26 15 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

That's a barrelling.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (oZhjI)

=======

I'm just happy that I can't copy and paste the whole thread anymore.

Sure, I have to cut down what I want to say more, but damn...if I didn't turn CBD against me for a while by doing it twice...in the same morning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

27 Can she claim immunity? I hear that's a thing now, apparently.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (B9Prs)

28 >>> 22 So, how long does this mean Trump will be in jail?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

For as long as I want!

Posted by: Judge Merchan, I am da law at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (llON8)

29 innocence or guilty after nearly 26 hours of deliberations.
Are there no editors anymore?

Goodness......
Posted by: Sponge

Of course they're editors they went to the same scholars.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (at8hB)

30 Guns

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (u73oe)

31 24 >>>7 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

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So, Star Trek...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

32 16 Judge C. Blazey Ford!

She and Merchan need to do an OnlyFans show.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (ZtgZZ)

Judge Bill de Blaseyford?

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (UnA8+)

33 Willowed:

I'd just like to point out that pretty much every option facing the Dems is bad, and yet we're here fighting with each other about it.

I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

34 kind of surprised anyone would not see the "reasonable doubt" all over the place on this one. DA already put out statement they will retry the case ....

Posted by: Lady McCabe at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (RzUqr)

35 Afternoon.

So...good? Bad? I've seen the name pop up but I have no idea what's going on here. She getting railroaded? Huge cvnt what's guilty as sin? *Shrugs*

OT and willow'd-ish...

Remember this link I posted yesterday about the Chinese rocket going splodey kaboom?

https://instapundit.com/657707/

Follow-up.

Next Big Future: Incomplete Tianlong-3 Ripped Off Parts of Rocket in Accident

https://tinyurl.com/4fz3f7vx

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (+c9z7)

36 33 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

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No we don't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

37
not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (KRtlO)



But, it's well written, so there's that...

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)

38 >>> 24 >>>7 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

Could be worse.

Posted by: that commenter who hates Disney posts at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (llON8)

39 AOC says she's going to impeach SCROTUS. Or something.

https://tinyurl.com/p8s2vvpu

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (woPEM)

40 The Turtle guy is pretty funny, but I couldn't GAFF about the trial.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (IG4Id)

41 Every defense lawyer ought to invoke a police cover-up as their defense.

The trust in the machine of "justice" is dropping and people from both the left and the right are willing to believe this easily.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (N1DT3)

42 I know nothing about this case, but women have a blank check to kill men if they can trot out some sort of abuse allegations.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (STGfL)

43 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

——————-

WHAT HE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN!?!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (u73oe)

44 Trying to kill a police officer in a Deepest Blue town and a guilty verdict?
Sure

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (fwDg9)

45 not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM

Meh. South shore problem.

(sorry bluebell)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (bJGD1)

46 I know a little about the case. I would not have voted guilty based on police misconduct when investigating the case alone.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (LkLld)

47 Boobs
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (u73oe)

No doubt Karen Read has some, but I don't feel a need to look at the video to see them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (oUxZc)

48 >>> 36 33 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

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No we don't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

You're both wrong.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (llON8)

49 I haven't been following this case.

I do think the Vogue cover with Jill makes me think she's the president or thinks she is, the hand that rocks the cradle.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (6gSPY)

50
not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace

When has the content in a thread ever had an effect on the commentary here?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (at8hB)

51 11 She looks guilty to me. To the pyre!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:40 PM (xCA6C)

Did she turn you into a newt?


Heh. This morning I read a story about a guy who has been arrested for smuggling rare salamanders. One wonders at what point he decided that's what he wanted to do with his life?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (xCA6C)

52 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

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No we don't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

That's not an argument, its just a contradiction.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (B9Prs)

53 I am tired of jurors using the justice system to pursue their personal and political hobbyhorses. They’ve made a joke out of a jury of your peers and ignored the law to pursue fame, money or accolades from their fellow subversives. Die in a fire, losers.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (s798l)

54 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

Your mother! *Flies into an incoherent rage*

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (+c9z7)

55 Aside from a headline on my start-up page, I had no clue this was happening.

So, I guess I am commenting "present."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (hZc6Q)

56 Boston. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

Posted by: Obi Won Kenobi at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (oZhjI)

57 I keep seeing lawtube thumbnails on the case, hinting that there's a whole lotta malarkey going on with the investigation and case, I start to listen...then get bored and stop. Not sure why...I followed the Zimmerman, Rittenhouse, one even Amber Heard cases pretty closely, but this one? Just didn't click.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (JCZqz)

58 41 - especially with cops like these ....

"the crime scene" spoke to one

the ATF guy destroyed his phone and sim card and disposed at a national guard station

it was such a farce

Posted by: Lady McCabe at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (RzUqr)

59 I got nothing

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (IyPmt)

60 Ok, so they accused her of drunkenly backing him over and leaving him to die.

She claims frame job. What was the prosecution's declared motivation for her to murder him? I see nothing in the articles about WHY she allegedly murdered him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)

61 22 So, how long does this mean Trump will be in jail?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

Drumpf isn't getting jail now. Apparently the SCOTUS ruling means that Biden, to "protect democracy", can now order drone strikes on Trump's Florida stronghold and nothing will happen to him...according to lefty legal-beagle retards.

Posted by: Thrawn at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (uGhsv)

62
Her name is Karen?

Guilty!

Jeez, this one's not hard, folks.

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (FVUW0)

63 Never heard of this case, or crime.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (JtA2+)

64 Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs
Democratic National Committee is considering formally nominating Biden as early as mid-July to ensure that the president is on November ballots, while helping to stamp out intra-party chatter of replacing him after his poor debate performance,
@MarioDParker
and
@gregorykorte
report.
A potential date for Biden’s nomination is July 21, when the Dem convention’s credentials committee meets virtually. The panel is meeting to finalize procedures before the convention in Chicago starts Aug. 19.

-------

This is apparently proof that Dems are dumping Biden, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (GBKbO)

65 Boobs
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 03:41 PM (u73oe)

No doubt Karen Read has some, but I don't feel a need to look at the video to see them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (oUxZc)
============
There are boobs on the video?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (mvxlw)

66 I'm surprised. A dead Irish cop in Boston, and the suspect took a walk? I'd figure the conviction would be a slam dunk, even if they charged a completely fictitious person like Captain Ahab.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (0FoWg)

67 52 No we don't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

That's not an argument, its just a contradiction.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (B9Prs)

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No, it isn't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

68 I never heard of this case, but I already know she didn't do it.

Everything she said about her being framed? She's telling the truth, and they're lying.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (dGCAG)

69 31 24 >>>7 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

=======

So, Star Trek...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

I think everyone loves the TOS movies more than the series.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (+c9z7)

70
Your mother! *Flies into an incoherent rage*
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (+c9z7)




https://youtu.be/XpyRM4tW39U

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

71 57 I keep seeing lawtube thumbnails on the case, hinting that there's a whole lotta malarkey going on with the investigation and case, I start to listen...then get bored and stop. Not sure why...I followed the Zimmerman, Rittenhouse, one even Amber Heard cases pretty closely, but this one? Just didn't click.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July

The Johnny Depp trial was highly entertaining and that lying b didn't get away with it. So it was a win for men everywhere that have been accused of horrible abuse by crazy women.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 03:48 PM (6gSPY)

72
No, it isn't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

An argument is a collected series of statements to establish a definite proposition!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 03:48 PM (B9Prs)

73 Ok, now I've read a single article on the trial so I'm the expert now.

It looks like the story is a jealous admirer (of Karen) lured the boyfriend to the party and accidentally hurt him too much.

That admirer was a police officer, so the blue line closed ranks and took his side.

That's the defense case from my EXPERT opinion.

The prosecution's case is that she said she hit him and they have a lot of hearsay saying so.

It seems like a pretty messed up case all around.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:48 PM (N1DT3)

74 1 Every defense lawyer ought to invoke a police cover-up as their defense.

The trust in the machine of "justice" is dropping and people from both the left and the right are willing to believe this easily.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (N1DT3)

———-

When you kill someone, dump the body on the police chief’s lawn. Then if they come after you, tell everyone it is a police conspiracy.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 03:48 PM (W49vR)

75 72 An argument is a collected series of statements to establish a definite proposition!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 03:48 PM (B9Prs)

=========

Look, if I argue with you, I must take the contrary position.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

76 I miss flame wars.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

77 I think everyone loves the TOS movies more than the series.
Posted by: Robert


Star Trek Generations was garbage, so, obviously, no.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (IG4Id)

78 I watched bits of this, not the whole thing. But just Trooper Proctor's testimony under oath was enough for reasonable doubt.

Posted by: It was bad. Really bad. The guy needs fired. at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (mIzto)

79 Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (mvxlw)

My guess if she appears in the video she will indeed have some, but probably isn't displaying them-boobette style- in the courtroom.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (oUxZc)

80 Sounds dangerous. Probably requires high-tech equipment.

Do they make drills that go both ways now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Law tomes require heavy duty shelves.

Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (/0X3E)

81 Aside from a headline on my start-up page, I had no clue this was happening.

So, I guess I am commenting "present."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM


I have no idea who these people are or what is going on. All I remember is that I drove a truck into Boston when they were doing the Big Dig. That was enough to drive anyone insane.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 01, 2024 03:50 PM (QNSds)

82 Is anybody following the YSL trial in GA? A couple of weeks ago, the judge held an ex parte meeting with the DA (an employee of Fani Willis), a key witness, and the witness's attorney to pressure the witness into not taking the 5th. Notably absent from the meeting was the defense. When the defense attorney asked the judge why he wasn't included, the judge instead demanded to know who told him about the meeting and held him in contempt when he refused to answer.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 01, 2024 03:50 PM (/y8xj)

83 If the SUV doesn't fit! You must acquit!

Posted by: Zombie Johnnie Cochran at July 01, 2024 03:50 PM (K861k)

84 Maybe the jurors have dementia? Have any of the jurors been to the Shivering Isles lately?

Posted by: Syl, Dutchess of Dementia at July 01, 2024 03:50 PM (Ybyk2)

85 there is one other answer to the replacing joe biden on the ballot conundrum. get some other candidate to legally change their name to joe biden.

Posted by: anachronda at July 01, 2024 03:50 PM (sGtp+)

86 Whoa. Victoria Taft finds a gem in Justice Thomas' Immunity Case opinion:

" Thomas's concurrence also provides legal firepower to Trump's argument before Florida federal Judge Aileen Cannon that Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel is illegal. "

LINK (PJMEDIA): https://tinyurl.com/ykypk2fh

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (rj6Yv)

87 I'm surprised. A dead Irish cop in Boston, and the suspect took a walk? I'd figure the conviction would be a slam dunk, even if they charged a completely fictitious person like Captain Ahab.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM


South of Boston. This whole thing has been a shit show from the start.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (ZANHd)

88 She looks guilty to me. To the pyre!
Posted by: Archimedes
......

That's basically what I said to get out of jury duty once.

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

89 Will I get in trouble if I threadjack?

There's always the 1967 Phillies we could talk about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:39 PM (GBKbO)

In the middle of the '66 season they traded Fergie Jenkins to the Cubs for Adolfo Phillips.

Any team that dumb deserves to lose.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (dGCAG)

90 Having been on an attempted murder case some time ago, I will tell you reading the jury is useless.
Each juror has their own set of problems/desires.

The start of one case I was on coincided with with an earache.
I can remember biting down hard to try to put the pain out of my mind. This only caused one of the lawyer to repeat her questions, obviously thinking I didn't understand.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (RHGPo)

91 When you kill someone, dump the body on the police chief’s lawn. Then if they come after you, tell everyone it is a police conspiracy.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Dump the body in with the pigs?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (oOc/o)

92 I have some FB friends in the Boston area and this trial has been a riveting sensation in the area. They have followed every word. The overwhelming consensus is -- at least according to them -- that Read is innocent and being framed for the murder.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

93 Look, if I argue with you, I must take the contrary position.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

You could take an adjacent opinion and still argue.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (N1DT3)

94 not at all. it appears I overestimated commenter interest in this story
Posted by: ace

So...maybe Karen Read boobs? https://tinyurl.com/yj6kdfnu

On topic, but also catering to the Horde's more puerile interests? Not the best we've seen, but above average.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (JCZqz)

95 ============
There are boobs on the video?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 03:47 PM (mvxlw)



Well, she has them in the biologist sense, I guess.....


https://is.gd/b28Lzk

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)

96 26 hours of deliberation is not a lot to declare a mistrial. Methinks the judge was skeptical that Read was guilty, and wanted to end this favorably to her.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

97 90 Having been on an attempted murder case some time ago, I will tell you reading the jury is useless.
Each juror has their own set of problems/desires.

The start of one case I was on coincided with with an earache.
I can remember biting down hard to try to put the pain out of my mind. This only caused one of the lawyer to repeat her questions, obviously thinking I didn't understand.
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (RHGPo)

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Juror #8 is a white guilting rabble-rouser who just wants criminals to walk the streets, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

98 The Government brought the case right? The corrupt Gov.?

Would not hang.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

99 60 Ok, so they accused her of drunkenly backing him over and leaving him to die.

She claims frame job. What was the prosecution's declared motivation for her to murder him? I see nothing in the articles about WHY she allegedly murdered him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)


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Well they claim she was drunk. I dunno if drunks need a motive to kill someone in an accident.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (W49vR)

100 82 Is anybody following the YSL trial in GA? A couple of weeks ago, the judge held an ex parte meeting with the DA (an employee of Fani Willis), a key witness, and the witness's attorney to pressure the witness into not taking the 5th. Notably absent from the meeting was the defense. When the defense attorney asked the judge why he wasn't included, the judge instead demanded to know who told him about the meeting and held him in contempt when he refused to answer.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 01, 2024 03:50 PM

I saw that somewhere, didn't the judge jail the defense attorney for refusing to say where he heard about the secret meeting?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (6gSPY)

101 I have lots trust in the guy system.
I suspect it's all Marxism taught in schools the last 50 years

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (fwDg9)

102 93 Look, if I argue with you, I must take the contrary position.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

You could take an adjacent opinion and still argue.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM (N1DT3)

========

It's been five minutes. I'm sorry, but if you want me to continue, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

103 It's always the spouse/partner. Always.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (aFNOf)

104 Ok, so they accused her of drunkenly backing him over and leaving him to die.

She claims frame job. What was the prosecution's declared motivation for her to murder him? I see nothing in the articles about WHY she allegedly murdered him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)
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They had an argument. Apparently, she wanted to go home or something, and he didn't. Naturally, said the prosecution, she decided he had to die.

Of course, he had been feuding with the accused criminally corrupt Albert family for a long time but that didn't matter to the prosecutor who is said to work for the Alberts or the Albert-supported judge.

My daughter follows this case obsessively, s does her primary news source, The Daily Mail.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (AzEXR)

105 Turtle Boy is the Masshole Ace. He's too mean spirited (ie funny) for VDH.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (wBaIH)

106 Star Trek Generations was garbage, so, obviously, no.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 03:49 PM (IG4Id)

That's a TNG film. TOS refers to the original series.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (+c9z7)

107 80
Do they make drills that go both ways now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Drills are no longer binary.

Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (/0X3E)

108 kind of surprised anyone would not see the "reasonable doubt" all over the place on this one. DA already put out statement they will retry the case ....
Posted by: Lady McCabe

I only watched part of the trial when off work. Every time the Prosecution brought up evidence that looked like a smoking gun, her defense team demolished them enough to make a beyond reasonable doubt verdict look iffy. I got hooked on it very quickly. If ever in serious trouble, I would want her legal team although financially I might have to settle for a court appointed dingbat with an anxiety disorder.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (oiNtH)

109 91 When you kill someone, dump the body on the police chief’s lawn. Then if they come after you, tell everyone it is a police conspiracy.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Dump the body in with the pigs?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (oOc/o)

Seems fitting.

Posted by: Thin blue pork line at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (mIzto)

110 In the middle of the '66 season they traded Fergie Jenkins to the Cubs for Adolfo Phillips.

Any team that dumb deserves to lose.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (dGCAG)

Sorry, I shamed myself. He was traded WITH Adolfo Phillips to the Cubs... for Bob Buhl and Larry Jackson.

Which is probably even worse.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (dGCAG)

111 >>It looks like the story is a jealous admirer (of Karen) lured the boyfriend to the party and accidentally hurt him too much.

>>That admirer was a police officer, so the blue line closed ranks and took his side.


I believe everyone at the party was a cop. And the cop who ran the investigation had clearly made up his mind about who he was going to charge before the investigation started.

They read texts he sent to other cops as he was starting the investigation and he was just looking for any evidence possible to charge her, he wasn't looking for anything else.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (LkLld)

112 I saw that somewhere, didn't the judge jail the defense attorney for refusing to say where he heard about the secret meeting?
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (6gSPY)

Attempted to. Higher court stepped in and stopped that IIRC.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (N1DT3)

113 52 That's not an argument, its just a contradiction.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 03:45 PM (B9Prs)

Says you.

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (UnA8+)

114 Anyone need any medical or dating advice?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (u73oe)

115 I have some FB friends in the Boston area and this trial has been a riveting sensation in the area. They have followed every word. The overwhelming consensus is -- at least according to them -- that Read is innocent and being framed for the murder.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2024 03:52 PM


If you listen to the news up here, you cant get away from it. But that does seem to be the consensus.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (ZANHd)

116 I have kinda followed the trial- short version: This woman pretty obviously is crazy and a sociopath, and got inebriated that night. THis dude was tired of her shit and was probbaly int he process of ending things with her and she couldn't handle it.

She probably hit him in her car unknowingly, or hit him blackout drunk and doesn't remember it.

However the cops made quite a few mistakes in the investigation, and the defense has taken what are probably coincidences and typical bonehead cop mistakes and used them to paint some grand conspiracy. In the defense version, the a bunch of cops at this party they were were at beat this guys to death, then left him in the snow to die. They then decided to frame this woman and coordinated the conspiracy between like 4 law enforcement agencies, the fire department, paramedics and the medical examiner. So yeah

Posted by: highsmith at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (enpg6)

117 It's been five minutes. I'm sorry, but if you want me to continue, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

I couldn't remember how long that bit went.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (N1DT3)

118 Often the most exasperated juror is the one who just wants to go home.
You haven't lived until you are at 11-1 and the last guy won't give in. It gets mighty ugly.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (RHGPo)

119 Given that Read's explanation of the events are predicated upon there being corruption in Massachusetts, she is clearly guilty, since we all know there is no corruption there at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (LsXht)

120 117 It's been five minutes. I'm sorry, but if you want me to continue, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

I couldn't remember how long that bit went.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (N1DT3)

=======

I have cheated and looked up the script.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

121 88 She looks guilty to me. To the pyre!
Posted by: Archimedes
......

That's basically what I said to get out of jury duty once.
Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

Say you're psychic. That works.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (6gSPY)

122 I saw that somewhere, didn't the judge jail the defense attorney for refusing to say where he heard about the secret meeting?

He tried to. GA Supremes stayed the order.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (/y8xj)

123 1 holdout and they couldn't "!2 Angry Men" their way to a consensus?

Either she's really frustrated with one or more of the other jurors who is holding out with "guilty," or she is the lone guilty vote.

oh it's a she, never mind

Posted by: this is just flamebait at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (25k9m)

124 48 >>> 36 33 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

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No we don't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

You're both wrong.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (llON


This is not an argument, it's simple contradiction.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (3dgmq)

125 It's been five minutes. I'm sorry, but if you want me to continue, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

TJM confirmed to be a phonesex operator.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (+c9z7)

126 What is the YSL trial in GA? Yves St. Laurent got in trouble?

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (oiNtH)

127
That's a TNG film. TOS refers to the original series.
Posted by: Robert


Was Kirk in it?? HMMMMM??? Was he???

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (IG4Id)

128 74 witnesses, 600+ pieces of evidence. They've been 'lost' for weeks.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (NFX2v)

129 I saw some old Taco Bell videos on youtube yesterday - I wonder if the food looked as good then as it did in the commercials because it sure doesn't now.

Any guesses as to how much a Taco Bell Taco was in the 80s?

I checked their website to compare and as of today it is $1.79.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:57 PM (oZhjI)

130 They then decided to frame this woman and coordinated the conspiracy between like 4 law enforcement agencies, the fire department, paramedics and the medical examiner. So yeah

———-

Nothing like that would ever happen in government.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 03:57 PM (W49vR)

131 I believe everyone at the party was a cop. And the cop who ran the investigation had clearly made up his mind about who he was going to charge before the investigation started.

They read texts he sent to other cops as he was starting the investigation and he was just looking for any evidence possible to charge her, he wasn't looking for anything else.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (LkLld)

Everything about that guy was wrong. The texts were vile and displayed pretty much everything you would NOT want in an investigating police officer, if you are an ordinary person of good will.

Posted by: Scum and turds also rise to the top at July 01, 2024 03:57 PM (mIzto)

132 BREAKING: Vogue just dropped their cover and it's incredible. Very nice photo of Dr. Jill Biden.

That's our FLOTUS, beautiful and smart! So happy to have her and her husband in the WH! I know it really pissed off Mel and Don that they never put her on their cover.

She was when she got married to Trump. She was in that hideous wedding dress.
https://tinyurl.com/yc7uz8w6

Melons would not be interviewed which is why she wasn’t on the cover of Vogue as FLOTUS. Melons is a GD liar just like Trump. She would have to explain that she doesn’t really have a degree in architecture, doesn’t speak five languages, that she got here on an Epstein Visa and not an Einstein Visa (as fking if!), why she hates Christmas, why she fked-up Jackie Kennedy’s rose garden, that she “Really doesn’t care” about the migrant children her husband put into cages, and that she fking hates Trump. That’s why.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2024 03:58 PM (JCZqz)

133 [i[]Given that Read's explanation of the events are predicated upon there being corruption in Massachusetts, she is clearly guilty, since we all know there is no corruption there at all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM

I see you've been to MA.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 03:58 PM (ZANHd)

134 If we are drifting from the topic at hand I actually got around to reading the plot to Game of Thrones after years of my cow-workers raving about it.

Spoilers!

So its bloodthirsty insane incest lady plunges kingdom into civil war and gets replaced by bloodthirsty insane slightly less into incest dragon lady?

I guess the appeal must have been the ahhh, topless scenery?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:58 PM (oZhjI)

135
129 I saw some old Taco Bell videos on youtube yesterday - I wonder if the food looked as good then as it did in the commercials because it sure doesn't now.

Any guesses as to how much a Taco Bell Taco was in the 80s?

I checked their website to compare and as of today it is $1.79.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 03:57 PM (oZhjI)


———

Back in the early 90’s it was 59 cents for a taco.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 03:58 PM (W49vR)

136 82 Is anybody following the YSL trial in GA? A couple of weeks ago, the judge held an ex parte meeting with the DA (an employee of Fani Willis), a key witness, and the witness's attorney to pressure the witness into not taking the 5th. Notably absent from the meeting was the defense. When the defense attorney asked the judge why he wasn't included, the judge instead demanded to know who told him about the meeting and held him in contempt when he refused to answer.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Georgia's legal system is piling on one embarrassment upon another. Douglas County probate judge was just removed from bench for all sorts of misbehavior culminating in a drunken obstruction of a police officer in Buckhead.

Due to racial politics, the GOP State Supreme Court and the Court of Appeals are doing little to nothing to rein in the misbehavior in the ATL area of Dem lawyers and judges going wild and living their best lives.

Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 03:59 PM (/0X3E)

137 Any guesses as to how much a Taco Bell Taco was in the 80s?

in the 90s it was 59 cents I think. They used to have 10 tacos for like 3 dollars on sundays sometimes.

Posted by: brak at July 01, 2024 03:59 PM (25k9m)

138 131 I believe everyone at the party was a cop. And the cop who ran the investigation had clearly made up his mind about who he was going to charge before the investigation started.

They read texts he sent to other cops as he was starting the investigation and he was just looking for any evidence possible to charge her, he wasn't looking for anything else.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 03:54 PM (LkLld)

Everything about that guy was wrong. The texts were vile and displayed pretty much everything you would NOT want in an investigating police officer, if you are an ordinary person of good will.
Posted by: Scum and turds also rise to the top at July 01, 2024 03:57 PM

How stupid of the cop to put things like that in writing. You know the defense has access to everything you do, why would you put things in a text, say it, don't write it. He should be fired for being stupid.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 03:59 PM (6gSPY)

139 Given that Read's explanation of the events are predicated upon there being corruption in Massachusetts, she is clearly guilty, since we all know there is no corruption there at all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 03:55 PM (LsXht)

Is Whitey Bulger's brother still running the state?

Nothing says clean living like having the Bulger family in charge. Except maybe the Pritzker family.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2024 03:59 PM (dGCAG)

140 Dirty testilying cop liars.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 01, 2024 03:59 PM (luaqR)

141 End stage democracy. The public is now too stupid to sit on juries. In Massachusetts anyways.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (qUkBO)

142 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2024 03:58 PM (JCZqz)

What a nasty, and obviously blind , group of pinheads

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (IyPmt)

143 Many seem to be living in the past when we thought the system worked. Please apply, OJ,Covid,911,election,Trump,and Biden lessons.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

144 Yahoo/Miami Herald: They were secret for 16 years. Now a judge has released the Epstein grand jury records

https://tinyurl.com/duan23zs

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (+c9z7)

145 I wish you had followed it Ace - a lot of the people following it were blown away by the weak case the prosecution made.

Posted by: Amy R. at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (PdrEU)

146 >>How stupid of the cop to put things like that in writing. You know the defense has access to everything you do, why would you put things in a text, say it, don't write it. He should be fired for being stupid.

In MA that qualifies him to be Police Commissioner.

Do you know why they filmed The Departed in Boston? Because it's true.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (LkLld)

147 Wasn't Trump framed for not rape?
Yep. He was framed for not rape and when he complained about the con job they ran on him they made him pay something like 90 million more. Really.
So far he hasn't paid but that's where it's at.

Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (x22hb)

148 I’ve never heard anything about this.
But I’m glad it happened. We need more jury nullification. It’s one of the few tools average people have in fighting the fascists.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (Upff2)

149 And for Euro Cup fans, Slovenia and Portugal are scoreless at the half.

Posted by: RS at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (E7m29)

150 74 witnesses, 600+ pieces of evidence. They've been 'lost' for weeks.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
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The jury should just return a "Trump is guilty" verdict and they can go home. In Massachusetts, who would argue with that?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (AzEXR)

151 148 - it is really nullification if the judge ruled a mistrial? They can just try her again.

Posted by: Gaff at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (jPS2y)

152 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (IG4Id)

153 They found his little footsteps in the snow.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (luaqR)

154 "Any guesses as to how much a Taco Bell Taco was in the 80s?"

10 minutes on the shitter per.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (qUkBO)

155 >>> 150 74 witnesses, 600+ pieces of evidence. They've been 'lost' for weeks.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
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The jury should just return a "Trump is guilty" verdict and they can go home. In Massachusetts, who would argue with that?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (AzEXR)

Well, he DID say 'pussy'.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (llON8)

156 Wow I wonder how much the defense lawyer is charging?

Jurors heard 74 witnesses and examined over 700 pieces of evidence. The jury has sent multiple notes to the judge, saying they have been deadlocked since late last week.

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It! at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (o3Uyl)

157 143 Many seem to be living in the past when we thought the system worked. Please apply, OJ,Covid,911,election,Trump,and Biden lessons.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

The "system" has proven itself to be a total steaming pile. They just can't propagandize us as successfully anymore.

Posted by: Guy who used to fervently believe in the system at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (mIzto)

158 MA is arguably the most corrupt state in America.

The crooks just all have degrees and fancy titles.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (oZhjI)

159 >>> 152 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (IG4Id)

You mean *besides* Brandon's super awesome performance at the debate?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (llON8)

160 146 >>How stupid of the cop to put things like that in writing. You know the defense has access to everything you do, why would you put things in a text, say it, don't write it. He should be fired for being stupid.

In MA that qualifies him to be Police Commissioner.

Do you know why they filmed The Departed in Boston? Because it's true.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 04:00 PM

So corrupt and stupid. Sad.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (6gSPY)

161 "152 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?"

Doesn't want to stomp the Biden campaign suicide party.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (qUkBO)

162 MA is arguably the most corrupt state in America.

The crooks just all have degrees and fancy titles.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (oZhjI)

Tribal justice.

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (rj6Yv)

163 Everything about that guy was wrong. The texts were vile and displayed pretty much everything you would NOT want in an investigating police officer, if you are an ordinary person of good will.
Posted by: Scum and turds also rise to the top at July 01, 2024 03:57 PM

How stupid of the cop to put things like that in writing. You know the defense has access to everything you do, why would you put things in a text, say it, don't write it. He should be fired for being stupid.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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It is generally wise to be prudent in one's written communications with others even if you consider them 'private' regardless of your actual job.

Self defense cases often turn on state of mind issues for example and communications with others by a defendant are often introduced to show character evidence and general behavior.

Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (/0X3E)

164 "Are there no editors anymore?

Goodness......

Posted by: Sponge"


Editors????

Editors and buggy whip makers learned to code about ten coon ages ago.

Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (fV+MH)

165
" Thomas's concurrence also provides legal firepower to Trump's argument before Florida federal Judge Aileen Cannon that Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel is illegal. "

LINK (PJMEDIA): https://tinyurl.com/ykypk2fh
Posted by: mrp

"By keeping the ability to create offices out of the President’s hands, the Founders ensured that no President could unilaterally create an army of officer positions to then fill with his supporters. Instead, our Constitution leaves it in the hands of the people’s elected representatives to determine whether new executive offices should exist"

--

He did more than skewer Smith. Obama created personal army of that answers to the president by arming all of the Fed agencies.
Maybe Congress and the SC hasn't noticed...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (at8hB)

166 So, if it was just murder charges, if this came out in court, yeah, I'm thinking it should have been a Not Guilty slam dunk...from People magazine...

"Meanwhile, Read’s defense attorney David Yanetti claimed that evidence shows someone inside Albert’s home the night O’Keefe died had made an online search for “Ho[w] long to die in cold,” according to a news release previously cited by PEOPLE.

"This evidence unequivocally exonerates Karen, because it establishes that individuals who were in the house… that night were aware that John was dying in the snow before Karen even knew he was missing," the press release said.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (exHjb)

167 161 "152 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?"

Doesn't want to stomp the Biden campaign suicide party.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (qUkBO)

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But we had heard from anonymous sources!

Anonymous sources, especially those around Trump, are NEVER wrong!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

168 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM


He never said he was going to do that, someone in the media made up a story saying he was going to reveal his pick and everyone ran with it. The last thing I recall seeing in regards to Trump's VP pick is that he has made up his mind and no one else but him knows who it is.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (QNSds)

169 Would not hit BTW.

Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (fV+MH)

170
Doesn't want to stomp the Biden campaign suicide party.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (qUkBO)

Today they are having a tizzy fit over the immunity ruling even though it actually helps Joe

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (IyPmt)

171 What is the YSL trial in GA? Yves St. Laurent got in trouble?

I don't even remember what YSL stands for. Basically, Willis is trying to make her reputation by pressing a RICO case against a bunch of rappers who may or may not have killed a guy. The guy on trial at the moment, one of dozens of defendants, is known as "Young Thug." The star witness is "Lil Woody" and he claims that he was too stoned for the last decade or so to remember anything.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (/y8xj)

172 Nothing says clean living like having the Bulger family in charge. Except maybe the Pritzker family.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2024 03:59 PM (dGCAG)
****
What am I ? Chopped liver?

Posted by: One Smidgeon, the Bathhouse Barry at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (x22hb)

173 What's going on in this case is no actual evidence that her vehicle going 24 mph did any damage to the victim at all and no evidence of her involvement.

There is, however, evidence of corruption out the wazoo and one of the women at the party googling "how long to die in the cold" at 2AM that night.

Posted by: deadrody at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (OE0xN)

174 163 It is generally wise to be prudent in one's written communications with others even if you consider them 'private' regardless of your actual job.


Posted by: whig at July 01, 2024 04:03 PM (/0X3E)

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K.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (GBKbO)

175 And I suspect it's been that way for a long time, they just were able to keep more of their incompetence and corruption out of the public eye. Now we can watch it almost in real time.

Posted by: Guy who used to fervently believe in the system at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (mIzto)

176 152 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (IG4Id)

I was thinking since the debate shake up. Trump may hole back until after the Dem convention to see who they run OR He may hold off until 7/11 to see what his sentence is.. just sayin..

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It! at July 01, 2024 04:04 PM (o3Uyl)

177 127 That's a TNG film. TOS refers to the original series.
Posted by: Robert

Was Kirk in it?? HMMMMM??? Was he???


nice try.

Posted by: anachronda at July 01, 2024 04:05 PM (sGtp+)

178 PS - She might have hit him, but I don't think she killed him...I think someone took advantage of an opportunity, seeing the quick evidence from the case...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 04:05 PM (exHjb)

179 124 48 >>> 36 33 I'm beginning to conclude that maybe we just like arguing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (xCA6C)

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No we don't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

You're both wrong.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 03:44 PM (llON


This is not an argument, it's simple contradiction.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 01, 2024 03:56 PM (3dgmq)

Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLlv_aZjHXc&t=46s

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 01, 2024 04:05 PM (wtvvX)

180 2 MA is arguably the most corrupt state in America.

The crooks just all have degrees and fancy titles.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 04:02 PM (oZhjI)

And badges

Posted by: Guy who used to fervently believe in the system at July 01, 2024 04:05 PM (mIzto)

181 Yeah, sure DUmmies, tell us you guys prefer Triggly Puff to Melania.

Or, is this your way of accepting Triggly Puff is the best you can do in your sad little lives?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:05 PM (tT6L1)

182 182 comment in and still arguing? No personal insults?

Slackers.

Be better.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

183 Back when I was a poor in AZ, working as a stocker at a Safeway, I could get 6 tacos and a coke at Taco Bell for less than 5 bucks. Kept me alive and fairly well-nourished.

Payday meant Carl's Jr. and a sixer of Michelob.

then I joined the Army.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (hZc6Q)

184 Yves St Laurent is on trial in Georgia?

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (Upff2)

185 What's going on in this case is no actual evidence that her vehicle going 24 mph did any damage to the victim at all and no evidence of her involvement.

There is, however, evidence of corruption out the wazoo and one of the women at the party googling "how long to die in the cold" at 2AM that night.

... This and why the 2nd degree murder charge? Why did the homeowners "rehome" the dog, dig up and replace the basement floor? Odd

Posted by: Lady McCabe at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (RzUqr)

186 It has to be Kirk AND Spock to be
TOS.


I decided.

Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (fV+MH)

187 I haven't followed the case at all, so whether she's guilty or not I have no idea, but I know that all the people that seem to support her online are fucking crazy, so that makes me lean toward guilty.

Posted by: Synnerman at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (aCe4G)

188 186 It has to be Kirk AND Spock to be
TOS.


I decided.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (fV+MH)

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So, Star Trek V qualifies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

189 That's a TNG film. TOS refers to the original series.
Posted by: Robert

Was Kirk in it?? HMMMMM??? Was he???

nice try.
Posted by: anachronda at July 01, 2024 04:05 PM (sGtp+)

Exactly. Spock was in a bunch of TNG episodes. Did they become TOS episodes?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (N1DT3)

190 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (IG4Id)

The media lied?

Posted by: ... at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (LW74x)

191 So basically with the Taco Bell taco metric, money is worth 1/3 of what it was 30 years ago.

That really pisses me of because it means I’m only making about the same money as when I started my first engineering job after an almost 30 year career (and I got a big raise with a new company 2 years ago).

I’ve long felt that my standard of living has not gone up for decades. Some of that is the money sink of having kids but I’m sure a significant portion is economic shit from governmental malfeasance.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (W49vR)

192 190 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (IG4Id)

The media lied?
Posted by: ... at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (LW74x)

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But the next anonymous source near Trump will be 100% accurate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

193 182 182 comment in and still arguing? No personal insults?

Slackers.

Be better.
Posted by: blake


BLAM BLAM BLAM

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (qtgHq)

194 Doctor Turtle Boy is not liked by some in MA government. I await Kirche's take on this, being a refugee from Taxasstooshits and a follower of Doctor Turtle Boy.

I have no idea about this case but it sounds really weird.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (IerVx)

195 141 End stage democracy. The public is now too stupid to sit on juries. In Massachusetts anyways.

we're gonna need more soma

Posted by: big pharma at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (sGtp+)

196 185 What's going on in this case is no actual evidence that her vehicle going 24 mph did any damage to the victim at all and no evidence of her involvement.

There is, however, evidence of corruption out the wazoo and one of the women at the party googling "how long to die in the cold" at 2AM that night.

... This and why the 2nd degree murder charge? Why did the homeowners "rehome" the dog, dig up and replace the basement floor? Odd
Posted by: Lady McCabe at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (RzUqr)

-Forensic Files entered the chat

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It! at July 01, 2024 04:09 PM (o3Uyl)

197 The star witness is "Lil Woody" and he claims that he was too stoned for the last decade or so to remember anything.
Posted by: Oddbob

Thanks.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 04:09 PM (oiNtH)

198 >>> 191 So basically with the Taco Bell taco metric, money is worth 1/3 of what it was 30 years ago.

That really pisses me off because it means I'm only making about the same money as when I started my first engineering job after an almost 30 year career (and I got a big raise with a new company 2 years ago).

I've long felt that my standard of living has not gone up for decades. Some of that is the money sink of having kids but I'm sure a significant portion is economic shit from governmental malfeasance.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (W49vR)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Fed Reserve, printing machines going brrrrrrrr at July 01, 2024 04:09 PM (llON8)

199 This case has been 24/7 on Howie carr"s show up here in New England. I haven't followed it and anytime he or his staff start talking about it I remind myself that nobody will ever replace Rush, and that my YouTube music supermix is two button presses away on my truck's stereo.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 01, 2024 04:09 PM (MJZHa)

200 ... This and why the 2nd degree murder charge? Why did the homeowners "rehome" the dog, dig up and replace the basement floor? Odd
Posted by: Lady McCabe at July 01, 2024 04:07 PM (RzUqr)

All I can tell from this thread is that my wife would be very interested in the drama of this case.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 04:09 PM (N1DT3)

201 The Libs heads are really exploding over this ruling... It's like they think trump is exonerated or something.. he should have been be he's not.... Sorry I have nothing on this trial

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 04:09 PM (IyPmt)

202
But the next anonymous source near Trump will be 100% accurate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)
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anonymous sources cannot be trusted. However, sources say is reliable.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM (tT6L1)

203 I see you've been to MA.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 03:58 PM (ZANHd)

Heh! Nope.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM (LsXht)

204 202
But the next anonymous source near Trump will be 100% accurate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)
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anonymous sources cannot be trusted. However, sources say is reliable.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM (tT6L1)

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That's what the experts say, at last.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

205 Any guesses as to how much a Taco Bell Taco was in the 80s?
****
In the early 70's they were 19¢
We used to stop for a taco and coke after our daily summer motorcycle rides.

Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM (x22hb)

206
then I joined the Army.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

You didn't add "and starved".

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 04:11 PM (at8hB)

207 The Departed is a great film, even though the actors fake Boston accents can be jarring.

Worst accents, ranked:

1. The shrink. She hardly even tries.
2. Martin Sheen.
3. Alec Baldwin

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 04:11 PM (ACREu)

208 Doctor Turtle Boy is not liked by some in MA government. I await Kirche's take on this, being a refugee from Taxasstooshits and a follower of Doctor Turtle Boy.

I have no idea about this case but it sounds really weird.


Turtle Boy ha ha. Ace used to warn that the Daily Mail website would give your computer aids ... I advise you NOT to try Turtle Boy's site ')

Posted by: Lady McCabe at July 01, 2024 04:11 PM (RzUqr)

209 I'm sure a significant portion is economic shit from governmental malfeasance.

It takes $1.25 in today's money to have the purchasing power of $1.00 in 2019. The Fed is a scam.

Posted by: brak at July 01, 2024 04:11 PM (25k9m)

210 "MANCHESTER, N.H. —
A new poll shows President Joe Biden trailing former President Donald Trump among New Hampshire registered voters by two points.

The St. Anselm College Survey Center polled more than 1,700 registered voters in the first two days after the recent presidential debate.

In the poll, 44% said they support Trump, compared to 42% who said Biden was their choice. Another 4% said they planned to vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.

"I think it's now conclusive that New Hampshire is really a competitive state in the presidential election," said Neil Levesque, of the New Hampshire Institute of Politics.

The results show a significant swing since the last St. Anselm College poll in December, which showed Biden up by 10 percentage points."

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 01, 2024 04:12 PM (V6W16)

211 It was a fascinating case. I don't think she was guilty. The cops involved are themselves under a current Federal Investigation. Every cop involved should be fired, but won't be.

Posted by: Ktgreat at July 01, 2024 04:12 PM (ei7q6)

212 Taco Bell is a bit too arbitrary . You need something more universal and stable like a gallon of milk or a gallon of gas to compare prices relative to incomes over time.

How many gallons of gas could your salary buy 30 years ago vs today. That’s a good way to gauge if you’re making more today vs then.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 04:12 PM (Upff2)

213 Anyone need any medical or dating advice?
Posted by: Duke Lowell
......

Nah, I'm good. Got my iron heating up and my WM doll in the closet.

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 04:13 PM (v0R5T)

214 The Departed is a great film, even though the actors fake Boston accents can be jarring.

I'm da guy who does his fackin job - you must be da odder guy!

Posted by: the only line i remember at July 01, 2024 04:13 PM (25k9m)

215 But the next anonymous source near Trump will be 100% accurate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)
--------------

anonymous sources cannot be trusted. However, sources say is reliable.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM


Personally, I suspect the Trump campaign knows who he has picked for the VP slot. What I think he is doing is setting a trap to find a leaker(s). He knows that jack smith and other federal agencies have moles in his campaign and he is trying to make them show themselves.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 01, 2024 04:13 PM (QNSds)

216 >>Worst accents, ranked:

>>1. The shrink. She hardly even tries.
2. Martin Sheen.
3. Alec Baldwin

Best was Wahlberg cause he wasn't acting.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 04:13 PM (LkLld)

217 Somebody once claimed, and it wouldn't come as a surprise to me that like everything else, the "jury of one's peers" has been twisted around to mean the opposite of the original intent. Something something about you want people who know you on your jury if you go to trial.

Provided you didn't commit the crime, perhaps. Or maybe not if you did, all sorts of interesting possibilities. Anyway the notion of 12 people who don't know anything about anything is just a silliness that screws everything up.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 01, 2024 04:13 PM (sih2d)

218 152 Also, wasn't Trump supposed to nominate his Veep pick? Whut happened?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 04:01 PM (IG4Id)

Trump will (smartly) wait until after his sentencing to announce a VP pick, to knock the sentencing out of the news cycle.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 01, 2024 04:14 PM (V6W16)

219 >>> 209 I'm sure a significant portion is economic shit from governmental malfeasance.
==
It takes $1.25 in today's money to have the purchasing power of $1.00 in 2019. The Fed is a scam.
Posted by: brak at July 01, 2024 04:11 PM (25k9m)

Taco Bell prices have PLUMMETED from $1.30 to $1.25!

Thanks Joe Biden!!!

Posted by: DUmmies and other leftists at July 01, 2024 04:14 PM (llON8)

220 Nurse, if that was a 45, I'll take it as a compliment.

9mm, insult.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

221
212 Taco Bell is a bit too arbitrary . You need something more universal and stable like a gallon of milk or a gallon of gas to compare prices relative to incomes over time.

How many gallons of gas could your salary buy 30 years ago vs today. That’s a good way to gauge if you’re making more today vs then.
Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 04:12 PM (Upff2)

————

I think a basic loaf of white bread is the best over all metric.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 04:15 PM (W49vR)

222 I just ran an errand. In a women's hair stylist's window there were two signs:

Vote Trump

Joe Biden You're Fired.

Dare I be optimistic?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 04:15 PM (1bNHn)

223 >>> 218
==
Trump will (smartly) wait until after his sentencing to announce a VP pick, to knock the sentencing out of the news cycle.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 01, 2024 04:14 PM (V6W16)

We'll see about that.

Posted by: Judge Merchan, I am da law at July 01, 2024 04:15 PM (llON8)

224 222 I just ran an errand. In a women's hair stylist's window there were two signs:

Vote Trump

Joe Biden You're Fired.

Dare I be optimistic?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 04:15 PM (1bNHn)

========

I was in DC last week, and I keep looking in the little shop spaces just to see what the preponderance of merch was headed towards.

I saw a lot more Trump stuff than Biden stuff. Biden was really limited to one storefront. Trump, usually using the mugshot as revengey type stuff, was in all of the little popups.

Doubt it means much, but that's what I observed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

225 Cygnal (R) – Pennsylvania

President 2-way
Trump 48% (+4)
Biden 44%
Undecided 8%

President Full Field
Trump 42% (+4)
Biden 38%
RFK 9%
Stein 2%
West 2%
Undecided 6%

Senate
Casey 46% (+4)
McCormick 42%
Undecided 12%

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 01, 2024 04:17 PM (V6W16)

226 You know who was actually a bone-deep corrupt Boston cop who was protecting Whitey Bulger, unlike Matt Damon, who just played one in the movies?

Top Man & Boy Scout Robert Mueller.

So much ham & eggs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 01, 2024 04:17 PM (0FoWg)

227 It is tough to figure monetary inflation over long periods of time. Gold at today's prices might overstate it, while government figures are equally absurd. Silver works fairly well for making simple substitutions for things that people bought then and now. If you look at really old prices, two that stuck out as costing a lot of money, were machine tools, and textiles. Clothes were expensive and took a lot of labor to make. And we can see how the New England mills (with tariffs to compete with GB) beat feet down to the southern states.... and now even machine tools beat feet to the "southern states". Mexico is picking up John Deere from the Moline works, looks like.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 01, 2024 04:18 PM (sih2d)

228 226 You know who was actually a bone-deep corrupt Boston cop who was protecting Whitey Bulger, unlike Matt Damon, who just played one in the movies?

Top Man & Boy Scout Robert Mueller.

So much ham & eggs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 01, 2024 04:17 PM (0FoWg)

========

I can't remember if Mueller gets name dropped in Black Mass, the Johnny Depp Bulger movie, but the FBI is front and center through the whole thing.

Too bad the movie is kind of shit, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

229 It has been etched indelibly in my hippogriff.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 01, 2024 04:19 PM (cf/0E)

230 We has not herd anything abouts if the Brattleboro FART Tube case has mades it to the Superreme Court yet? If FART Tubing ruling stands then Global Worming will be redused by a large amont.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 01, 2024 04:19 PM (rcLES)

231 217 Somebody once claimed, and it wouldn't come as a surprise to me that like everything else, the "jury of one's peers" has been twisted around to mean the opposite of the original intent. Something something about you want people who know you on your jury if you go to trial.

Provided you didn't commit the crime, perhaps. Or maybe not if you did, all sorts of interesting possibilities. Anyway the notion of 12 people who don't know anything about anything is just a silliness that screws everything up.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 01, 2024 04:13 PM (sih2d)


———

Seems to me it’s rich people judge rich people, middle class judge middle class people and poor people judge poor people.




Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 04:19 PM (W49vR)

232 Breaking: Palm Beach Clerk Abruzzo Releases Jeffrey Epstein Grand Jury Records!

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 04:20 PM (6dm1P)

233 I hadn't heard of this case, either, so I did a search on YT. I don't know anything about these people, but they appear to make good points: https://youtu.be/SSj2MGQY1IQ?si=-kTpz8a8_0jDhZrO

Posted by: Dodd at July 01, 2024 04:20 PM (VEhs/)

234 Wonder which bands caused the most conceptions?
Not at the concerts you sick fucks.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 04:20 PM (J8LnB)

235 Jocelyn Nungaray, 12, was raped making the two illegal immigrants charged death penalty eligible

https://mol.im/a/13588771

Posted by: Ciampino - Nasty on my mind.. at July 01, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

236 Of course, an iron law in economics is ordinarily things get less expensive over time. Not more expensive.

They don't teach economics in school any longer, so none of the current pinheads on the idiot boxes even know this. But even a "Targeted 2% inflation rate mandate" nonsense they tout, means your savings and investments lose almost half their value in 20 years. Sad.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 01, 2024 04:21 PM (sih2d)

237 Jocelyn Nungaray, 12, was raped making the two illegal immigrants charged death penalty eligible

https://mol.im/a/13588771
Posted by: Ciampino - Nasty on my mind.. at July 01, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

Even if they get the death penalty, it won't be justice.

Hang them in the public square right after the trial and leave them there for a month. As a warning.

But we're too civilized for that.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 04:22 PM (N1DT3)

238 Karen Read - Crazy, hot, or not?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 01, 2024 04:23 PM (cOq4q)

239 Never fuck crazy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 01, 2024 04:23 PM (n17eQ)

240 221 I think a basic loaf of white bread is the best over all metric.

pretty certain we use imperial white bread over on this side of the pond.

Posted by: anachronda at July 01, 2024 04:24 PM (sGtp+)

241 Hang them in the public square right after the trial and leave them there for a month. As a warning.

But we're too civilized for that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 04:22 PM (N1DT3)
--------------

You've got the gist but, location, location, location. The bodies should be prominently displayed at a border crossing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:24 PM (tT6L1)

242 Wonder which bands caused the most conceptions?
Not at the concerts you sick fucks.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 04:20 PM (J8LnB)

Best of Bread album has to rank high.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 01, 2024 04:24 PM (6gW4D)

243 I’ve long felt that my standard of living has not gone up for decades. Some of that is the money sink of having kids but I’m sure a significant portion is economic shit from governmental malfeasance.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 04:08 PM (W49vR)


blue noses like Kunstler and some big name talking heads all pontificate that the Modern world is shabby and cheap because we have turned away from beauty and spirituality, I feel the thing that is making America the land of shabby is that everyone is getting poorer through inflation, and having to settle for stuff our grandparents would have left at the Woolworths and the Five and Dime as too cheap to waste the time on.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2024 04:25 PM (D7oie)

244 All I can tell from this thread is that my wife would be very interested in the drama of this case.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

I'll wait till it comes out on Dateline. Then again, I probably won't pay attention to that either.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 01, 2024 04:25 PM (Tofm4)

245 >You've got the gist but, location, location, location. The bodies should be prominently displayed at a border crossing.

Vlad Dracul of Walachia likes the cut of your jib.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 01, 2024 04:26 PM (cf/0E)

246 Hang them in the public square right after the trial and leave them there for a month. As a warning.

But we're too civilized for that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2024 04:22 PM (N1DT3)
--------------

You've got the gist but, location, location, location. The bodies should be prominently displayed at a border crossing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 04:24 PM (tT6L1)

Make American Gibbeting Again!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 01, 2024 04:26 PM (6gW4D)

247 "Breaking News" ........ In a mysterious explosion at the
Palm Beach County Court House Today all Epstein records were destroyed....

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at July 01, 2024 04:27 PM (rcLES)

248 Wonder which bands caused the most conceptions?
Not at the concerts you sick fucks.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 04:20 PM (J8LnB)

Best of Bread album has to rank high.
Posted by: Count de Monet
________

Side I of Led Zeppelin IV.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 01, 2024 04:27 PM (Dm8we)

249 Hang them in the public square right after the trial and leave them there for a month. As a warning.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian

A month? You seem like a nice, fair person. However, it is clear you are not cut out to be my Minister of Justice once I am elected your King. so Sorry.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 01, 2024 04:27 PM (WXNFJ)

250 Wonder which bands caused the most conceptions?
Not at the concerts you sick fucks.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 04:20 PM (J8LnB)

Best of Bread album has to rank high.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Only If.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 04:28 PM (qZEuM)

251 Oh the answer to how much was a taco bell taco in the 80s? 42 cents. And I see it was still only 69 cents in 2001. It was $1.19 in 2018. But that's a 50% increase in only 6 years when the FNM is saying inflation over that period has only been something like 10%.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 04:28 PM (oZhjI)

252 Who did, Don't Fear The Reaper?
That did the trick.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (J8LnB)

253 AOC threatens to IMPEACH all six conservative Supreme Court Justices after Trump immunity ruling

https://mol.im/a/13587795

Posted by: Ciampino - Nasty on my mind. at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (qfLjt)

254 Trump will (smartly) wait until after his sentencing to announce a VP pick, to knock the sentencing out of the news cycle.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at July 01, 2024 04:14 PM (V6W16)

But Trump isn't smart, he just gets lucky sometimes.

Posted by: ... at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (LW74x)

255 Any guesses as to how much a Taco Bell Taco was in the 80s?
****
In the early 70's they were 19¢
We used to stop for a taco and coke after our daily summer motorcycle rides.
Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2024 04:10 PM (x22hb)
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I remember the 19 cent tacos.

I think Bell Burgers were 25 cents.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (3Fz6p)

256 Never trust anyone named Karen

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (IyPmt)

257 A vast majority of registered voters think President Biden lacks the mental capacity for the presidency, according to a new CBS News poll conducted after the first presidential debate.

In total, 72% of registered voters surveyed said have the "metal and cognitive health" needed to serve as president. In addition, 72% of respondents said Biden should not be running for re-election, which is an increase from 63% in February.

Among Democratic registered voters, 45% said Biden should step aside and not continue his presidential campaign while 55% said he should keep running.


https://tinyurl.com/5ddr6trw

And yet, in PA:
Cygnal (R) – Pennsylvania

President 2-way
Trump 48% (+4)
Biden 44%
Undecided 8%


Trump is only winning by 4 points. Half of all Democrats would rather put someone mentally compromised in office than vote for a Republican.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (xCA6C)

258 If her Balloon Knot Leaks, we'll re-try it in another few weeks.

Posted by: garrett at July 01, 2024 04:30 PM (eWzyH)

259 then I joined the Army.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

You didn't add "and starved".
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 04:11 PM (at8hB)

Nah, man. Fort Sill had a great chow hall. I ate like a king. Gained 20 pounds, all muscle. Best decision I ever made.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 01, 2024 04:30 PM (hZc6Q)

260 Never trust anyone named Karen
Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (IyPmt)


what about "Becky"? Can we trust someone named Becky?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2024 04:31 PM (D7oie)

261 >>> 257
==
Trump is only winning by 4 points. Half of all Democrats would rather put someone mentally compromised in office than vote for a Republican.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (xCA6C)

Yeah but I don't think that's a new thing.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 04:31 PM (llON8)

262 Cygnal (R) – Pennsylvania

President 2-way
Trump 48% (+4)
Biden 44%
Undecided 8%

Trump is only winning by 4 points. Half of all Democrats would rather put someone mentally compromised in office than vote for a Republican.
Posted by: Archimedes
________

That's just about the right margin to keep Jill fighting. So good news.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 01, 2024 04:31 PM (Dm8we)

263 Nood poles

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 04:32 PM (4XNv4)

264 President 2-way
Trump 48% (+4)
Biden 44%
Retarded 8%


FTFY.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 01, 2024 04:32 PM (gKWVE)

265 I feel the thing that is making America the land of shabby is that everyone is getting poorer through inflation,

Yep. The real inflation rate (1990 standard) prior to Biden was about 6%. Since Biden its been above 10% per year.

Are you getting a 10% raise per year?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 04:33 PM (oZhjI)

266 253 AOC threatens to IMPEACH all six conservative Supreme Court Justices after Trump immunity ruling

https://mol.im/a/13587795
Posted by: Ciampino - Nasty on my mind. at July 01, 2024 04:29 PM (qfLjt)

That insipid braying nincompoop...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 04:33 PM (IyPmt)

267 Now, does this lady have a Boston accent? (YT Bunker Hill adventure).

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/22vsmrmr

She starts at the Charlestown neck!

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 04:33 PM (rj6Yv)

268 Nood poles
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 04:32 PM (4XNv4)

Nekkid Polish wimmens?

*trudges upstairs, prepared to be disappointed*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 01, 2024 04:33 PM (hZc6Q)

269
A very important PSA about senior abuse.

https://is.gd/HHUcE8

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2024 04:47 PM (63Dwl)

270 I knew more about the band Bread than any 10 year old boy should ever know.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 01, 2024 05:05 PM (Z8Yh2)

271 Turtleboy used to mostly cover the bad behavior of what he called "ratchets." It was funny and intelligent. It was like a townie who was on the straight and narrow path ridiculing the ones who had gone full ratchet.

Then he went all in on the Karen Read case. It's a lot of information to take in, and humor is more scarce. I have no idea whether he's right or not, but my guess would be yes. The people he's up against seem like dicks.

Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2024 05:09 PM (hmKaK)

272 Lord Woodstone (Toss all MAPS out the airlock) on X: "Hey, @alexthechick, assume you were working as a defense attorney. How would you react to finding out the cops collected blood samples in red Solo cups and then stored them in a used paper grocery bag which they didn't bother sealing with tape?" / X
https://x.com/EricMertz_KC/status/1807872114508357773

Apparently incompetent dicks...

Posted by: Voyager at July 01, 2024 05:53 PM (t9gtU)

273 They also apparently searched for evidence with a leaf blower.

I have no idea what she did or did not do, but dear god that entire police department needs to be fired, burned to the ground, exorcised, and the new building built somewhere else...

Posted by: Voyager at July 01, 2024 05:55 PM (t9gtU)

274 Police coverup. Period.

Look up the details, folks. It’ll piss you off. The shit pulled by Canton and MA State police does nothing to combat the ACAB shit out there.

Posted by: Khiri at July 01, 2024 06:13 PM (Rt6VP)

275 The FBI is investigating the Karen Read investigation. They of course don’t disclose who exactly they are investigating, but the FBI is the reason the Defense had access to over 3,000 pages of documents, including full cellbrite logs of Trooper Proctor and Jenn McCabe’s (the one who googled “hos long to die in cold” at 2:27 AM, over 3 hours before O’Keefe’s body was found) cell phones.

The FBI-hired accident reconstructionists from ARCCA (company that investigated space shuttle crash, designed IED-surviving humvee seats, etc.) testified for the Defense, for free (paid by feds), stating there is no chance that the incident happened as purported by the commonwealth. There is no evidence the SUV struck anyone, and there is no evidence a car caused O’Keefe’s injuries.

If you want a laugh, search for Lally’s cross-examination of Dr. Andrew Rentschler. I promise it’s worth it.

The fact Karen Read was not found Not Guilty is a travesty of justice.

Posted by: KSB at July 01, 2024 10:15 PM (jw5yW)

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