Supreme Court Rules on Presidential Immunity, Requiring a New Hearing to Determine Which Acts of Trump's Were "Official" Acts

The Supreme Court did what many expected it would do: It recognized that presidential immunity exists, but only for certain official actions taken by the president.

First of all, the Court notes that previous decisions have held there is no presidential immunity when it comes to subpoenas for evidence. But the Court rules that these precedents are limited to the case of subpeonaeing records, and do not rule out immunity to criminal prosecution.

It broke the scheme of presidential acts into three categories:

"Core" official acts, which I assume are presidential actions taken in furtherance of the president's specified duties in the Constitution. So a President could never be prosecuted for conducting foreign policy or directing the military.

"Official" acts, which may or may not qualify for immunity. Which acts are "official" and which of those "official" acts will qualify for immunity has to be decided on a case-by-case basis.

Finally, "unofficial" acts are those that the president undertakes not in furtherance of a presidential power, but only in his capacity as an individual. These never qualify for immunity.

From the syllabus (the quick summary) of the decision:

Article II of the Constitution vests "executive Power" in "a President of the United States of America." 1. The President has duties of "unrivaled gravity and breadth." Trump v. Vance, 591 U. S. 786, 800. His authority to act necessarily "stem[s] either from an act of Congress or from the Constitution itself." Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U. S. 579, 585. In the latter case, the President's authority is sometimes "conclusive and preclusive." Id., at 638
(Jackson, J., concurring). When the President exercises such authority, Congress cannot act on, and courts cannot examine, the President's actions. It follows that an Act of Congress--either a specific one targeted at the President or a generally applicable one--may not criminalize the President's actions within his exclusive constitutional power. Neither may the courts adjudicate a criminal prosecution that
examines such Presidential actions. The Court thus concludes that the President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution for conduct within his exclusive sphere of constitutional authority. Pp. 6--9.

That doesn't really apply here, though. At least I don't think it does.

(2) Not all of the President's official acts fall within his "conclusive and preclusive" authority. The reasons that justify the President's absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for acts within the scope of his exclusive constitutional authority do not extend to conduct in areas where his authority is shared with Congress. To determine the President's immunity in this context, the Court looks primarily to the Framers' design of the Presidency within the separation of powers, precedent on Presidential immunity in the civil context, and criminal case where a President resisted prosecutorial demands for documents.
(The Framers designed the Presidency to provide for a "vigorous" and "energetic" Executive. The Federalist No. 70, pp. 471--472 (J. Cooke ed. 1961) (A. Hamilton). They vested the President with "supervisory and policy responsibilities of utmost discretion and sensitivity." Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 457 U. S. 731, 750.

Trump's lawyers will seize on this to try to argue that he has a supervisory role in guaranteeing that elections are conducted properly.

Appreciating the "unique risks" that arise when the President's energies are diverted by proceedings that might render him "unduly cautious in the discharge of his official duties," the Court has recognized Presidential immunities and privileges "rooted in the constitutional tradition of the separation of powers and supported by our history." Id., at 749, 751, 752, n. 32. In Fitzgerald, for instance, the Court concluded that a former President is entitled to absolute immunity from "damages liability for acts within the 'outer perimeter' of his official responsibility." Id., at 756.

The term "outer perimeters" helps Trump here. Even if Trump's actions were performed in the "outer perimeters" of his authority, he'd still be owed immunity.

But he'll have to make that argument. And Chutkan will rule against him.

The Court's "dominant concern" was to avoid "diversion of the President's attention during the decisionmaking process caused by needless worry as to the possibility of damages actions stemming from any particular official decision." Clinton v. Jones, 520 U. S. 681, 694, n. 19.

Thanks, Bill Clinton, for that precedent!

The Court then turns to analyzing prior decisions which rejected absolute immunity in cases where the president wished to shield papers (and auditapes) from discovery at trial. After summarizing those precedents, the court announces they don't apply here:

Criminally prosecuting a President for official conduct undoubtedly poses a far greater threat of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch than simply seeking evidence in his possession. The danger is greater than what led the Court to recognize absolute Presidential immunity from civil damages liability--that the President would be chilled from taking the "bold and unhesitating action" required of an independent Executive. Fitzgerald, 457 U. S., at
745. Although the President might be exposed to fewer criminal prosecutions than civil damages suits, the threat of trial, judgment, and imprisonment is a far greater deterrent and plainly more likely to distort Presidential decisionmaking than the potential payment of civil damages. The hesitation to execute the duties of his office fearlessly and fairly that might result when a President is making decisions un-
der "a pall of potential prosecution," McDonnell v. United States, 579 U. S. 550, 575, raises "unique risks to the effective functioning of government," Fitzgerald, 457 U. S., at 751. But there is also a compelling "public interest in fair and effective law enforcement." Vance, 591 U. S., at 808.
Taking into account these competing considerations, the Court concludes that the separation of powers principles explicated in the Court's precedent necessitate at least a presumptive immunity from criminal prosecution for a President's acts within the outer perimeter of his official responsibility. Such an immunity is required to safeguard the independence and effective functioning of the Executive Branch, and to enable the President to carry out his constitutional duties without undue caution. At a minimum, the President must be immune from prosecution for an official act unless the Government can show that applying a criminal prohibition to that act would pose no "dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive
Branch." Fitzgerald, 457 U. S., at 754. Pp. 12--15.

More helpful language: Biden's political prosecutors will have to prove that their prosecution will not chill future presidents from acting according to their judgement.

(3) As for a President's unofficial acts, there is no immunity. Although Presidential immunity is required for official actions to ensure that the President's decisionmaking is not distorted by the threat of future litigation stemming from those actions, that concern does not support immunity for unofficial conduct. Clinton, 520 U. S., at 694,
and n. 19. The separation of powers does not bar a prosecution predicated on the President's unofficial acts. P. 15.
(b) The first step in deciding whether a former President is entitled to immunity from a particular prosecution is to distinguish his official from unofficial actions. In this case, no court thus far has drawn that distinction, in general or with respect to the conduct alleged in particular. It is therefore incumbent upon the Court to be mindful that it is "a court of final review and not first view." Zivotofsky v. Clinton, 566
U. S. 189, 201. Critical threshold issues in this case are how to differentiate between a President's official and unofficial actions, and how to do so with respect to the indictment's extensive and detailed allegations covering a broad range of conduct. The Court offers guidance on those issues. Pp. 16--32.

It offers guidance on these issues, but not a ruling on them. Thus, lower courts will have to review the facts in light of the Court's guidance.

...
In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President's motives. Such a "highly intrusive" inquiry would risk exposing even the most obvious instances of official conduct to judicial examination on the mere allegation of improper purpose. Fitzgerald, 457 U. S., at 756. Nor may courts deem an action unofficial merely because it allegedly violates a generally applicable law. Otherwise, Presidents would be subject to trial on "every allegation that
an action was unlawful," depriving immunity of its intended effect.

Via Ed Morriseey, more guidance from the Court. Morrissey summarizes...

Roberts has already cut off a couple of arguments from Smith. The indictment alleged that Trump used the Department of Justice to perform a "sham" election-fraud probe in an effort to overturn the election. However, the DoJ falls entirely within the president's constitutional authority...

...and then goes back to quoting the Court:

The indictment's allegations that the requested investigations were "sham[s]" or proposed for an improper purpose do not divest the President of exclusive authority over the investigative and prosecutorial functions of the Justice Department and its officials. App. 186--187, Indictment Paragraph 10(c). And the President cannot be prosecuted for conduct within his exclusive constitutional authority. Trump is therefore absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials.

But while Trump has immunity for discussions with federal officials under a president's control and supervision, his calls with state officials are not necessarily immune:

Unlike the allegations describing Trump's communications with the Justice Department and the Vice President, these remaining allegations involve Trump's interactions with persons outside the Executive Branch: state officials, private parties, and the general public. Many of the remaining allegations, for instance, cover at great length events arising out of communications that Trump and his co-conspirators initiated with state legislators and election officials in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin regarding those States' certification of electors. See App. 192--207, Indictment paragraphs 13-- 52. ...
Unlike Trump's alleged interactions with the Justice Department, this alleged conduct cannot be neatly categorized as falling within a particular Presidential function. The necessary analysis is instead fact specific, requiring assessment of numerous alleged interactions with a wide variety of state officials and private persons. And the parties' brief comments at oral argument indicate that they starkly disagree on the characterization of these allegations. The concerns we noted at the outset--the expedition of this case, the lack of factual analysis by the lower courts, and the absence of pertinent briefing by the parties--thus become more prominent. We accordingly remand to the District Court to determine in the first instance--with the benefit of briefing we lack--whether Trump's conduct in this area qualifies as official or unofficial.

So: We need a hearing, and the lower court never had one.

It looks to me like the arguments which will now be heard will concern whether Trump's calls to governors on election night were "official" acts -- he can argue the president has the right to make sure federal election laws are being followed -- and which are unofficial acts he took simply as an individual/as a candidate for office.

As for retaining government documents -- this was plainly done as a private citizen. He wasn't president any longer, so it can't be said he was holding on to documents as part of his official duties as president.

So this decision will slow the hyperpartisan leftwing DC judge, Tanya S. Chutkan, overseeing the January 6th prosecution against Trump.

These arguments will require a hearing, and then a judge's written decision.

The DC judge is a gungho partisan who barely attempts to conceal it. I assume she will call for hearings as soon as possible, schedule two days for arguments, and then publish her decision -- which she's already writing now, ahead of arguments -- a day or two later.

But judge's decision will presumably then be appealable, first to the DC Circuit of Appeals and then the Supreme Court. I don't expect Trump to win in the trial court or the DC Court of Appeals. He might win in the Supreme Court.

But this should cause enough delay to push the DC trial past the elections.

Amy Coney Barrett, of course, only concurs with part of the opinion, and adds that in her mind, presidential immunity should have been construed "very narrowly."

On remand [re-deciding the case after being rebuked by the Supreme Court], the lower courts will have to apply that standard to various allegations involving the President's official conduct.2 Some of those allegations raise unsettled questions about the scope of Article II power, see ante, at 21--28, but others do not. For example, the indictment alleges that the President "asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing" about election fraud claims. App. 193. The President has no authority over state legislatures or their leadership, so it is hard to see how prosecuting him for crimes committed when dealing with the Arizona House Speaker would unconstitutionally intrude on
executive power.

Update: Thanks to FenelonSpoke, Professor William Jacobsen of Legal Insurrection decides, on the whole, that this is a [blockquote caps in original] "A VERY GOOD DAY FOR TRUMP."

Below, a parody of the Wise Latina's hyperbolic dissent:

I'm not going to comment on the Supreme Court's immunity decision until I've had a chance to read the entire thing but I will say that this part of Sotomayor's dissent was very compelling to me pic.twitter.com/5aXYn0qlJ4
— Jarvis (@jarvis_best) July 1, 2024

Apparently the dissent by Sotomayor (and by Jackson) made stupid claims like "this means the president can commit murder!" All the lefties are citing this as if it's the real decision of the court, rather than the dissenters offering a tendentious re-interpretation of their words to make them sound absurd.

Every single left-wing account on Twitter right now. pic.twitter.com/CxBYR5B7xk
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) July 1, 2024

Stop listening to people who are wrong about everything and have been for the last decade.
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) July 1, 2024

During oral arguments, some justices (I believe Gorsuch and Alito) mocked the DOJ's insistence that attorneys general, grand juries, and other interests would prevent a cycle of criminal prosecution of predecessors by successors.

Lol pic.twitter.com/k3f0YO19ks
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) July 1, 2024

Hysterical bitches: This "Hill staffer" says she feels, get this, unsafe.

Stephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera

Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:34 PM

Comments

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1 First!

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 12:34 PM (ZRbQD)

2 Corgis called.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2024 12:34 PM (O7YUW)

3 Boldly.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2024 12:34 PM (O7YUW)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)

5 How's the schadenboner, Ace?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 12:34 PM (1bNHn)

6 Top O' the past noon to ya, Ace!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)

7 Yeah, but what does primidi mean?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

8 Morning.

Good to see that you're alive, Ace.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 12:35 PM (Uajlr)

9 Hi Ace
Was starting to worry.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 01, 2024 12:35 PM (t/2Uw)

10 jack smith's case is over. This coupled with last weeks ruling that nothing that happened on jan 6th rose to the level of disrupting an official proceeding make all of his charges DIW.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 01, 2024 12:36 PM (QNSds)

11 Very Bold

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 12:36 PM (qZEuM)

12 A bold decision!

Posted by: Zombie Breitbart at July 01, 2024 12:36 PM (p5OII)

13 Let me see if I can shut this boldness off...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2024 12:36 PM (O7YUW)

14 I see that the Wide Latina had to weigh in on this case.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 01, 2024 12:36 PM (hUEhQ)

15 ... Maybe?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2024 12:36 PM (O7YUW)

16 Nope. Gonna require a COB.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2024 12:37 PM (O7YUW)

17 Andy McCarthy of National Google Review was wrong about something?

I shan't believe it!

I shan't!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 01, 2024 12:37 PM (uxCna)

18 Good afternoon Ace

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 12:37 PM (hnSZX)

19 Wouldn't be surprised if the Lower Courts try to fast tract these cases

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 12:37 PM (IyPmt)

20 So does the former Speaker of the House have immunity for treason?

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 01, 2024 12:37 PM (n17eQ)

21 I see the point where the HTML fail happened.

No one fix this. NO ONE.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

22 A few more Marxists on the court this wouldn't be so

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (hnSZX)

23 Cliff's Notes?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (PrOMo)

24 Social media case is out...it's a punt, but an overall broader win for us, since the tech lobby is livid (I think they thought with Kagan writing, they were getting a win)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (exHjb)

25 *tanned*

*rested*

*ready*

Posted by: Lamont The REAL Big Dummy at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

26 Damn, now we can't try Obama for murder for droning American citizens without any legal process.

Oh wait - let me look at the decision again...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (uxCna)

27 I see that the Wide Latina had to weigh in on this case.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
.......

willowed:
521 Gee, I hope Sotomayor doesn't choke on a burrito.
Posted by: wth

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

28 Auto close tags FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (PrOMo)

29 Interesting? Bold!

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (K861k)

30 forty-second!

Posted by: deep thought at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (sGtp+)

31 Seems to me to be a good day, again. This Court did I think really well overall. And you cannot call them (not that the Left won't) a partisan Court.

Measured is fair to say. I'm no super-fan of govt immunity in general so I don't mind the reasonable restrictions on it.

Smith is done, definitely, but that one in DC keeps insisting she is going forward no matter what. Hopefully someone reins her in.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (s3qiR)

32 And to no surprise, the universal lefty reaction on social media is to start making wish lists of everyone they want Biden to give Kill Orders on.

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (UnA8+)

33 Missed it...

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (K861k)

34 Damn, now we can't try Obama for murder for droning American citizens without any legal process.

Oh wait - let me look at the decision again...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 01, 2024 12:38 PM (uxCna)

Murder is murder, no matter who does it.

Posted by: Lamont The REAL Big Dummy at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

35 Within 5 years ACB will be voting with Kagan 90% of the time. What’s fucking disaster she’s turned out to be.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (Upff2)

36 Construed broadly, Presidential Bowel Movements, are official acts.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (XV/Pl)

37 Damn.

Strike one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

38 Are you not entertained!?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (LkLld)

39 "Government's promises of good faith"

Yeah, sure.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (AwYPR)

40 I believe holding on to Presidential papers has become precedent besides the fact that they are collected while being President.

Anyway that case should be dismissed for unequal application of the supposed law.

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (SHMXB)

41 you guys are really negative - I'd love to see a little happiness around here! so many rulings that keep the govt in check!

I guess I'll be happy all alone lol

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (s3qiR)

42 Does it matter anymore? The Left just does what it wants.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (b+7kE)

43 If the SC keeps this up, the Government will be limited on what it can do and how it functions.

We can't have that......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)

44 It's frustrating that the Supreme Court won't smack all of this down and instead wants to just let it go on when it's clearly meant to hamstring a political opponent. Jack Smith should have been formally stripped of any power as well.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (wMRY8)

45 Smith is done, definitely, but that one in DC keeps insisting she is going forward no matter what. Hopefully someone reins her in.
Posted by: BlackOrchid
_______

She'll probably enter a new scheduling order this afternoon.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (Dm8we)

46 The dissent’s legal analysis is a joke. It’s barely a legal opinion at all. It’s a leftwing political rant that regurgitates the most hysterical leftwing J6 talking points.

The gist of the dissent seems to be that they are pissed that the unwritten rule governing Democrap presidents -- they can do anything they want and never face any prosecution -- has been codified at least for official acts for GOP presidents as well.

The Dumb Latina is so tone-deaf that her dissent reads like a parody. She’s worried about presidents selling pardons for bribes? Clinton did this openly, including with Marc Rich. He barely faced any criticism, let alone prosecution.

She’s also worried about a president using Seal Team 6 against political rivals? Obama ordered the military to kill American citizens with drone strikes. And a drone operator complied and killed an American citizen. The Democraps cheered.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

47 "Government's promises of good faith"

Yeah, sure.
Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (AwYPR)

I'm from the government and I'm here to help, really I mean it this time.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (AiZBA)

48 41 you guys are really negative - I'd love to see a little happiness around here! so many rulings that keep the govt in check!

I guess I'll be happy all alone lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (s3qiR)

Oh, I'm also very, very, happy! It's been a great week for the Supreme Court and the USA...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (exHjb)

49 38 Are you not entertained!?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (LkLld)

Bigly.
Christmas in July.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (hUEhQ)

50 Popcorn! Get your popcorn!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (/8Il0)

51 41 you guys are really negative - I'd love to see a little happiness around here! so many rulings that keep the govt in check!

I guess I'll be happy all alone lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (s3qiR)

I want to be happy but I can't figure out where this leaves Trump.. too vague for me

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 12:42 PM (IyPmt)

52 Ace, I am disappoint!
Where is the flaming skull/scalpweasel?!

Posted by: RI Red at July 01, 2024 12:42 PM (T9WMp)

53 >>>Morning.
Good to see that you're alive, Ace.
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 12:35 PM (Uajlr)

9 Hi Ace
Was starting to worry.

this took me a little while.

Re: a shadenboner, while this is a decent opinion for Trump, and about what we were expecting, it's not better than decent, and not better than what we were expecting.

Posted by: ace at July 01, 2024 12:42 PM (KRtlO)

54 As I mentioned in the previous thread, as I read through the immunity dissents, my take away is they are incensed the unwritten rule of immunity for Democrat Presidents have been codified for both Democrat AND Republican Presidents.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 12:43 PM (G0vdT)

55 If it keeps on rainin', levy gonna break.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 01, 2024 12:43 PM (xcxpd)

56 you guys are really negative - I'd love to see a little happiness around here! so many rulings that keep the govt in check!

I guess I'll be happy all alone lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid

_____

It's been a great week for conservatives, no question. The other SC rulings like Chevron are absolutely massive, no bill could have possibly been passed to have such a win against Big Government.

But if you want to know what I'm worried about, it's whether Biden drops out.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 12:43 PM (wMRY8)

57 51 41 you guys are really negative - I'd love to see a little happiness around here! so many rulings that keep the govt in check!

I guess I'll be happy all alone lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 01, 2024 12:40 PM (s3qiR)

I want to be happy but I can't figure out where this leaves Trump.. too vague for me
Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 12:42 PM (IyPmt)

Avoiding federal prosecution until after the election (and likely inauguration) when he confers immunity on his whole family, Biden's whole family, and every previous president's whole family to try to put this lawfare behind us.

Yes, this is what I see on January 20...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 12:43 PM (exHjb)

58 The blue state urban centers will be on fire shortly.

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (SHMXB)

59 @38

>>Are you not entertained!?

Not really.

The only thing that will make me happy is a Trump victory in November and to finally pot some of these animals in the ground.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (XV/Pl)

60 35 Within 5 years ACB will be voting with Kagan 90% of the time. What’s fucking disaster she’s turned out to be.
Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:39 PM (Upff2)

You can say that again. The overmatched mousy Karen without a shred of trial experience or conservative creds gets a pass to the highest court in the land. That's what comes from "listening to the experts."

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (b+7kE)

61 If it keeps on rainin', levy gonna break.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at July 01, 2024 12:43 PM (xcxpd)

"George Bush hates black people."

- - - Ye Before He was Ye

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)

62 Jack Smith should have been formally stripped of any power as well.

He's been all but formally stripped. He's done.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (FD5dr)

63 I'm from the government and I'm here to help, really I mean it this time.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 01, 2024 12:41 PM (AiZBA)

Just the tip.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (AwYPR)

64 From the Vogue article that dropped today:

“I If you want to know what power feels like, try to get yourself driven around in a motorcade. Flashing police chaperone lights form a perimeter as you blaze down an empty highway, waiting cars backed up on entry ramps as you pass. It’s as if the world is holding its breath. For you. Also, rules don’t apply.”

“At Nine Mile, an entourage of 30 or so are noisily hustling to follow a trim, blond woman in a pristine white suit as she strides nonchalantly past clanging, gurgling brewing vats, aiming for a back office. This is my first glimpse of first lady Dr. Jill Biden: Exiting the sealed chamber of power into the middle of America, a vision of calm amid utter cacophony.”

YOU THINK I'M GIVING THAT UP, BUSTER?

I'LL PUT JOE IN A CRYOGENIC VAT ON LIFE SUPPORT IF I HAVE TO TO KEEP POWER!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)

65 From the syllabus
......

oh yeah syll-a-bus
I want it I want it I want it
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (v0R5T)

66 I think the decision also mentioned that consulting with the VP was within his official duties as well as DOJ.
Now that the SC has downgraded the "occupation" of the capital on J6 to a misdemeanor offense, I would think it pretty hard to convict Trump on starting an insurrection.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)

67 But if you want to know what I'm worried about, it's whether Biden drops out.

DOCTOR Jill is on the cover of the new Vogue this morning. Biden's not going anywhere.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (FD5dr)

68 The left scotus: gay marriage is the law of the land for now and forever to never be questioned.

The rights scotus: well Trump sort of kind of ha/ immunity, Maybe. Maybe not. On Tuesdays mainly. Come back in a year and we’ll discuss it some more.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (Upff2)

69 I don't care if Andy McCarthy is right about anything. He's a nevertrumper to the core and his opinions are bought and paid for by a left wing billionaire.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (tT6L1)

70 Didn't George III go made because of syllabus?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (v6JzV)

71 67 But if you want to know what I'm worried about, it's whether Biden drops out.

DOCTOR Jill is on the cover of the new Vogue this morning. Biden's not going anywhere.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (FD5dr)

========

I've been assured that every public display of loyalty to Biden is assurance that he's already gone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (GBKbO)

72 I hadn't considered the argument that Trump talking to state officials in an attempt to open an inquiry doesn't fall under the purview of official acts. I suspect that'll be the focus of the left's efforts.

I mean, he was just asking questions. It was my understanding that that's the hallmark of a patriot.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (xCA6C)

73 Go made or go home.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

74 Now that the SC has downgraded the "occupation" of the capital on J6 to a misdemeanor offense, I would think it pretty hard to convict Trump on starting an insurrection.

For those who wanted something actually done, at least one of the J6 lawyers has already filed to overturn their client's conviction based on the SC decision.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (FD5dr)

75 *go mad*

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:47 PM (v6JzV)

76 ========

I've been assured that every public display of loyalty to Biden is assurance that he's already gone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (GBKbO)

So, you're saying it's the dreaded "owner vote of confidence."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:47 PM (Zz0t1)

77 YOU THINK I'M GIVING THAT UP, BUSTER?

I'LL PUT JOE IN A CRYOGENIC VAT ON LIFE SUPPORT IF I HAVE TO TO KEEP POWER!
Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)

Yo Go Girl!

Posted by: Edith Wilson at July 01, 2024 12:47 PM (K861k)

78 I mean, he was just asking questions. It was my understanding that that's the hallmark of a patriot.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (xCA6C)
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Better yet, they can't factor in "intent".

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 12:47 PM (G0vdT)

79 The blue state urban centers will be on fire shortly.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (SHMXB)

So a typical summer day.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:47 PM (Upff2)

80 So while the left and the media are trying to downplay this and claim its not as broad, all we really need to do is look at the dissent whine:
Gives Trump everything he asked for and more.

Right you are, Ken.
Let's ride.
Yee-haw!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (KKOmD)

81 I read some of that gobbledygook and it just made me glad I'm not a lawyer.

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (v0R5T)

82 He's been all but formally stripped. He's done.
Posted by: Ian S.
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I mean, Smith's legitimacy was questioned, but it wasn't "decided".

It seems the SC is just delaying the inevitable or hoping Trump gets elected and just pardons himself.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (wMRY8)

83 I've been assured that every public display of loyalty to Biden is assurance that he's already gone.

There's pretty clearly a pretty entertaining Obama vs. Biden fight going on (the NYT is on Obama's side, of course) but Obama can't actually win. Joe has to step down, he can't be forced to.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (FD5dr)

84 "We do not ordinarily decline to decide significant constitutional questions based on Government's promises of good faith."

_________________________________

Yeah? What about the censorship case(s)? The very fundamental basis of their sign off was taking Government at their word.

Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (dIske)

85 I will say this again, ACB is a believer in the Jan 6 rhetoric and as such is problematic. What we can do about it is nothing. We can hope we get another bite at the apple during a Trump term and if the Turtle recommends, the exact opposite action should be taken.

Posted by: Piper at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (/sySz)

86 I'LL PUT JOE IN A CRYOGENIC VAT ON LIFE SUPPORT IF I HAVE TO TO KEEP POWER!
Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)

Yo Go Girl!
Posted by: Edith Wilson at July 01, 2024 12:47 PM (K861k)
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Like Pelosi's book "Know Your Power". She certainly does.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 12:49 PM (G0vdT)

87 If Trump reads that parody tweet he might just walk into SCOTUS with his schadenboner fully exposed….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 01, 2024 12:49 PM (SlNuN)

88 Van Jones on suicide watch,

Posted by: Redenzo at July 01, 2024 12:49 PM (V/pbu)

89 oh oh oh zempic say all the lefties on twitter (via twitchy), so biden can now declare martial law to stop trump from winning the election? so biden can have trump assassinated? these are the same people who though that 9-11 would have never happened if gore had been president.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 12:49 PM (CWTWj)

90 > "Ace, I am disappointed!
Where is the flaming skull/scalpweasel?!"

There has been a more judicious deployment of the flaming skull as of late.

But I suspect that is going to change as we get closer to the election.

Posted by: Just reporting at July 01, 2024 12:49 PM (scll+)

91 79 The blue state urban centers will be on fire shortly.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (SHMXB)

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I just can't imagine the establishment wanting this. The idea in 2020 was that Trump was chaos, here's the chaos, vote for Biden to stop the chaos.

Having chaos under Biden as a warning against the guy who is not in power sends all the wrong messages.

But, the left has been given so much leash without any pullback for so long that individual elements are acting out. It's more about intra-party fighting, what we see now, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (GBKbO)

92 Now that the SC has downgraded the "occupation" of the capital on J6 to a misdemeanor offense, I would think it pretty hard to convict Trump on starting an insurrection.

For those who wanted something actually done, at least one of the J6 lawyers has already filed to overturn their client's conviction based on the SC decision.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM

From my very limited standing once a person pleads guilty to an offense it is extremely difficult to withdraw that plea deal. So I suspect the ones who plead to those charges will have those charges remain and the very few who took trials will get their charges dismissed.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (QNSds)

93 Hey guys, what really matters is that Vogue magazine put Jill Biden, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden on its cover with the headline: Dr. Jill Biden, a First Lady for all of us.

By 'For all of us' they mean those that vote Dem and aren't part of the Maggots.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (oiNtH)

94 A poll over the weekend showed trump beating Biden and every other potential Dem. Harris, Newsom, Whitmer and a few others. Trump beat them all by 2-3 points.

It really looks like it doesn’t matter who the Dem is. It’s either Trump or not Trump. The not Trump option is almost irrelevant now.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (Upff2)

95 The trial Chutkan has to determine if Trump's acts were official will be shorter than the trial the Romanian mob had for Ceausescu and his wife before they took them out to the firing squad.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (xPl2J)

96 70 Didn't George III go made because of syllabus?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (v6JzV)
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No, I think it was too much syllabub.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (1bNHn)

97 @83

>>There's pretty clearly a pretty entertaining Obama vs. Biden fight going on (the NYT is on Obama's side, of course) but Obama can't actually win. Joe has to step down, he can't be forced to.

There is another way.

--
Scalia's Wandering Pillow.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (XV/Pl)

98 At least Dr. Jill doesn't look like she's wearing a pot-luck tablecloth in that Vogue pic.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (v6JzV)

99 The left scotus: gay marriage is the law of the land for now and forever to never be questioned.

The rights scotus: well Trump sort of kind of ha/ immunity, Maybe. Maybe not. On Tuesdays mainly. Come back in a year and we’ll discuss it some more.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished

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And don't forget, if someone doesn't issue a gay marriage license weeks after the ruling, they get to rot in a prison cell until they bend the knee.

Somehow conservative courts never have such clarity, if the shoe was on the other foot, a Jack Smith type prosecuting an Obama would probably be in prison until he formally resigned.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (wMRY8)

100 93 Hey guys, what really matters is that Vogue magazine put Jill Biden, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden on its cover with the headline: Dr. Jill Biden, a First Lady for all of us.

Sound of retching

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (IyPmt)

101 83 I've been assured that every public display of loyalty to Biden is assurance that he's already gone.

There's pretty clearly a pretty entertaining Obama vs. Biden fight going on (the NYT is on Obama's side, of course) but Obama can't actually win. Joe has to step down, he can't be forced to.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (FD5dr)

=======

Biden never listened to Obama anyway. Obama's delusions of power over the party are meaningless as long as someone not loyal to him is president. Obama desperately wants Kamala to be president.

And he's been trying to push Biden out since the 2020 primary, unsuccessfully.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)

102 while this is a decent opinion for Trump, and about what we were expecting, it's not better than decent, and not better than what we were expecting.

About the best you can say for it is that it probably delays resolution until after the election.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 12:51 PM (xCA6C)

103 Remember, Joe answered all the questions. Doctuh Jill said so during that after debate rally.

Joe's good to go for another 4 years, baby!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 12:51 PM (tT6L1)

104 So Trump can't be held accountable for trying to overthrow the government?! ROFL so biased! Biden needs to stack it now!!!

Posted by: Sid at July 01, 2024 12:51 PM (mkn5w)

105 Hey guys, what really matters is that Vogue magazine put Jill Biden, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden on its cover with the headline: Dr. Jill Biden, a First Lady for all of us.

Thank god they didn't let her dress herself. She's wearing something not unlike actual fashion instead of a tablecloth.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:51 PM (FD5dr)

106 Seal Team Six may try to kill my Lilliputian penis, but they won't get my balls... because they haven't dropped yet.

Posted by: Harry Sissy, sucking his thumb at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (Ybyk2)

107 If PDT doesn't start playing "Hit the Road, Jack" by Ray Charles at rallies, I will lose faith in the rally entertainment people.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (V5eKu)

108 A poll over the weekend showed trump beating Biden and every other potential Dem. Harris, Newsom, Whitmer and a few others. Trump beat them all by 2-3 points.

It really looks like it doesn’t matter who the Dem is. It’s either Trump or not Trump. The not Trump option is almost irrelevant now.
Posted by: Biden Is Finished
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Honestly, that's not very reassuring if someone 90% of the public doesnt even know is within the margin of error.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (wMRY8)

109 94 A poll over the weekend showed trump beating Biden and every other potential Dem. Harris, Newsom, Whitmer and a few others. Trump beat them all by 2-3 points.

It really looks like it doesn’t matter who the Dem is. It’s either Trump or not Trump. The not Trump option is almost irrelevant now.
Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:50 PM (Upff2)

========

If Biden was popular before the debate, and then his popularity tanked with the debate, another candidate could (could) fix that.

But he was unpopular before the debate. The debate just made it worse. Another candidate doesn't fix that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

110 85. ACB is a socially conservative statist. This was known before Mitch said she was the “only” nominee who could be confirmed so quickly. At no point, ever in her life, was she “Scalia in a skirt” as some dubbed her. She is a better version of Anthony Kennedy.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (HZszs)

111 So while the left and the media are trying to downplay this and claim its not as broad, all we really need to do is look at the dissent whine:
Gives Trump everything he asked for and more.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (KKOmD)

I didn't think injecting your personal feelings about the case in front of you as an SC judge was how it worked up there.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)

112 Professor William Jacobson of "Legal Insurrection" site weighs in:

https://tinyurl.com/3rv6f5nm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (oUxZc)

113 72 I hadn't considered the argument that Trump talking to state officials in an attempt to open an inquiry doesn't fall under the purview of official acts. I suspect that'll be the focus of the left's efforts.

I mean, he was just asking questions. It was my understanding that that's the hallmark of a patriot.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (xCA6C)
________
Wouldn't there still be a presumption against his having a mes rea?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (1bNHn)

114 Damn, now we can't try Obama for murder for droning American citizens without any legal process.

Oh wait - let me look at the decision again...
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We can't.
But ONLY if he had his PENIS out.
It's the Presidential Penis of Immunity clause in the Constitution.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (KKOmD)

115 Obama desperately wants Kamala to be president.

And he's been trying to push Biden out since the 2020 primary, unsuccessfully.

Obama's been unsuccessful there because he's literally the only person who wants Kamala to be president. Even Big Mike thinks it's a bad idea.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (FD5dr)

116 That week of prep had to include practice sessions in the evening. So either he somehow did well enough in those, or they had to see this coming. Puzzling.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (Dm8we)

117 Posted by: Sid at July 01, 2024 12:51 PM (mkn5w)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

118 Trump's only options are blanket immunity for all his enemies, or absolute scorched earth, locking up every single motherfucker in the Uniparty for anything worse than a parking ticket.

It's like that little vignette from the early Roman Republic, where the Samnite (?) general's father first recommended killing all the Roman captives, then the next day recommended releasing them all unharmed, and of course the guy releases them after beating them up and taking their stuff and making them pass under the yoke....

And now no one knows what the hell a Samnite even is.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (VoAdT)

119 115 Obama's been unsuccessful there because he's literally the only person who wants Kamala to be president. Even Big Mike thinks it's a bad idea.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (FD5dr)

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Which shows you where he has actual power.

He can get backroom deals done...sometimes, like getting Kamala to be VP, but he can't do anything else.

His ego is so unmatched with his actual ability, it's crazy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (GBKbO)

120 Meanwhile, in Seattle . . .

Seattle Pride Parade led by Boy Scouts, with Megan Rapinoe as grand marshal

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (L/fGl)

121 Seattle Pride Parade led by Boy Scouts, with Megan Rapinoe as grand marshal
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (L/fGl)

Pride is one of the 7 deadly sins. This is an example of why.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 01, 2024 12:54 PM (Zz0t1)

122 120 Meanwhile, in Seattle . . .

Seattle Pride Parade led by Boy Scouts, with Megan Rapinoe as grand marshal
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 12:53 PM (L/fGl)

WTAF….

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 01, 2024 12:54 PM (iSfV4)

123 I've always said it's a delusional folly to count on the Supreme Court to save this country or even to fully recognize the peril we're in. They're f*cking lawyers and under Roberts operate in consuming fear and avoidance of the ruthless, patriotic Constitutional clarity we desperately require.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (b+7kE)

124 Sid, please go back to your coloring books and try to stay inside the lines, m'kay?

Then, from there, maybe take a nap and have a cookie. You know, do something that falls within your rather limited abilities.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (tT6L1)

125 CRAP.

Strike two.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)

126 Obama’s team wants Kamala. Obama is still the lazy figurehead that couldn’t figure out a complex political move if his life depended on it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (SHMXB)

127 And now no one knows what the hell a Samnite even is.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Delilah's husband?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (v6JzV)

128 126 Obama’s team wants Kamala. Obama is still the lazy figurehead that couldn’t figure out a complex political move if his life depended on it.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (SHMXB)

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$5 says that Obama thinks that Kamala is the only person he's ever met who can match wits with him intellectually.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

129 The only downside of this is that it takes the spotlight off Biden and puts it back on Trump. Ot is it?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (t/2Uw)

130 Trump v US (although not unanimous) is a case of import like Brown v Board and Plessy. It may not seem it, but the majority have now set a standard for Article II of the constitution. Trump's name will live forever now (and the liberals must be apoplectic.

Thomas made an error by concurring on a side issue instead of joining the majority on the basics of presidential immunity.

CJ Roberts is a failure by not corralling the wise latina and biologically unfamiliar woman and Kagan into joining an obvious interpretation of Pres. Immunity. Dissenting opinions here serve no purpose.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (ntk8v)

131 He can get backroom deals done...sometimes, like getting Kamala to be VP, but he can't do anything else.

His ego is so unmatched with his actual ability, it's crazy.

I'm pretty sure the Kamala deal was done before it was known how bad she was. Like people who buy a car and *then* get it inspected.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (FD5dr)

132 How, exactly, did Trump try to overthrow the government, anyway?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

133 A poll over the weekend showed trump beating Biden and every other potential Dem. Harris, Newsom, Whitmer and a few others. Trump beat them all by 2-3 points.

It really looks like it doesn’t matter who the Dem is. It’s either Trump or not Trump. The not Trump option is almost irrelevant now.
Posted by: Biden Is Finished
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Honestly, that's not very reassuring if someone 90% of the public doesnt even know is within the margin of error.

Agree. How many times have we heard "I don't like either candidate. I wish someone else was running"? There is plenty of time for another Dem to make up lost ground.

I guess it doesn't really matter, though, since I've been assured that voting is irrelevant.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (xCA6C)

134 56...But if you want to know what I'm worried about, it's whether Biden drops out.
Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 12:43 PM (wMRY

He won't drop out, Dr Mrs Homwrecker Jill won't let him. He'll have to drop dead.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)

135 Delilah's husband?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (v6JzV)

1) Samson, not Samnite

2) Delilah was most definitely not his wife.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (iSfV4)

136 Afternoon ace. Reading about the celebs and Dems onTwitter reacting to the decision is awesome. Projection and out and out calling for Biden to drone Trump or the six SC judges. Scratch a progressive find a murderous tyrant

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (NMNWr)

137 Took a quick jog over to Insty: Javier Milei (Argentina) just disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of the employees. The other 15% were transferred to the Department of Gender Protection, which has been renamed the Department of Family Protection.

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (rj6Yv)

138 58 The blue state urban centers will be on fire shortly.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 12:44 PM (SHMXB)

Yeah, the order probably went out this morning...

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (Rbu5d)

139 How, exactly, did Trump try to overthrow the government, anyway?

He grabbed the steering pussy of The Beast from 3 rows back. Madison Cornbread's word as a Cornbread.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (FD5dr)

140 $5 says that Obama thinks that Kamala is the only person he's ever met who can match wits with him intellectually.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

LOL... And he'd be right.. They're both intellectual powerhouses.....I laughed out loud when I typed that.

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (IyPmt)

141 Can we try Sotomoyer for the murder of all those straw men?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (B9Prs)

142 I ,for one am , eager to see Donald Trump kill his political opponents with his penis.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (jbnUc)

143 131 I'm pretty sure the Kamala deal was done before it was known how bad she was. Like people who buy a car and *then* get it inspected.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (FD5dr)

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She was AG in CA. She was a sitting Senator.

People talked with her. Donors rubbed elbows with her. People talked policy with her.

She didn't suddenly become rock-bottom stupid and incomprehensible. She's always been like this (I believe San Franpsycho has some tangential connections to people who worked with her in SF who verify). It's not a surprise to anyone. They knew. They wanted her anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

144 But he was unpopular before the debate. The debate just made it worse. Another candidate doesn't fix that.
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Turns out Karen was lying when she said her primary concern was equality and world peace. Her real concern was primacy and cheap wine.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (IHRQq)

145 Those Vogue magazines were in distributors hands days ago. Could they have tried to stop them hitting the shelves, probably, however that's a sunk cost in an industry that's floundering. If nothing else they might sell a few more to brain dead leftists then they typically would have.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (2NHgQ)

146 136 Afternoon ace. Reading about the celebs and Dems onTwitter reacting to the decision is awesome. Projection and out and out calling for Biden to drone Trump or the six SC judges. Scratch a progressive find a murderous tyrant
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (NMNWr)

Save democracy by killing your political opponents.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (Upff2)

147 141 Can we try Sotomoyer for the murder of all those straw men?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (B9Prs)

“No standing!”

~ CJ Roberts

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (iSfV4)

148 Took a quick jog over to Insty: Javier Milei (Argentina) just disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of the employees. The other 15% were transferred to the Department of Gender Protection, which has been renamed the Department of Family Protection.

And they're going to be required to help male victims of domestic violence for the first time. I'm gonna guess many of them are very angry about that.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (FD5dr)

149 114
It's the Presidential Penis of Immunity clause in the Constitution.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (KKOmD)
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I thought Clinton's argument was he didn't stick it in all the way, and he didn't enjoy it.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (1bNHn)

150 And now no one knows what the hell a Samnite even is.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Don't be silly. Samnite Gamgee was one of the main characters in LOTR.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (xCA6C)

151 Does this mean that Mike Johnson is still a weak man?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (aFNOf)

152 Hey ACB, I got an official act for you! Right here!

Posted by: President Donald J. Trump at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (kT4OI)

153
He won't drop out, Dr Mrs Homwrecker Jill won't let him. He'll have to drop dead.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)

She can't ! She's on the cover of Vogue !

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (IyPmt)

154 >>> ... the President must be immune from prosecution for an official act unless the Government ...

The President is the "Government" and what they are calling the "Government" here are individuals with some authority deligated from the President such as a prosecutor.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (2fO6t)

155 93 Hey guys, what really matters is that Vogue magazine put Jill Biden, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden on its cover with the headline: Dr. Jill Biden, a First Lady for all of us.

Can't tell whether that's a sexual proposition or a threat.

Posted by: Maybe a Threatening Sexual Proposition at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (DctLG)

156 I keep having a question running through my feeble mind. If Obama and Jarret and the rest of the Kalorama Kids are running Biden, who are they getting orders from? Not exactly a think tank there.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (V5eKu)

157 For example, the indictment alleges that the President "asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing" about election fraud claims.

I'm gonna need one of you legal types to explain to me how someone saying, "Hey, officeholder, please do this thing" - absent bribes or threats - can be classified as a crime. Further, given that his was request was merely that they investigate hinky shit that was going on in their state, it's not even an unreasonable request.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (T7iTv)

158 Hey guys, what really matters is that Vogue magazine put Jill Biden, excuse me, Dr. Jill Biden on its cover with the headline: Dr. Jill Biden, a First Lady for all of us.

The lady running the check out stand at the store yells at me when I put FJB stickers on the Vogue magazines.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (W/lyH)

159 I ,for one am , eager to see Donald Trump kill his political opponents with his penis.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

I made a killing with mine.
-- V. Zelenskyy

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (v6JzV)

160 64.
hustling to follow a trim, blond woman

Geez, no editors at Vogue any more?
1. no need for the comma.
2. it's "blonde" for Dr Mrs Homewrecker Jill

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (Rbu5d)

161 His ego is so unmatched with his actual ability, it's crazy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

And that is the real story of his life.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (oiNtH)

162 156 I keep having a question running through my feeble mind. If Obama and Jarret and the rest of the Kalorama Kids are running Biden, who are they getting orders from? Not exactly a think tank there.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (V5eKu)

=======

They don't run Biden. They run parts of the administration despite Biden.

It's a Politboro, and different factions want the top job for better control of patronage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

163 Nice to know leftists are allowed to call for violence without risking a visit from the FBI.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (tT6L1)

164 Samnite or Differenite?

Posted by: TMI From gp at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (tK8Kz)

165 Impeachment is what the constitution allows . Simple as that.

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (SHMXB)

166 I have a friend from northern cali who said watch out for Kamala Harris. She may be president some day. This was long before she was on the National scene.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (Upff2)

167 Geez, no editors at Vogue any more?
1. no need for the comma.
2. it's "blonde" for Dr Mrs Homewrecker Jill
-------
Why do you hate women, misogynist?

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (IHRQq)

168 I keep having a question running through my feeble mind. If Obama and Jarret and the rest of the Kalorama Kids are running Biden, who are they getting orders from? Not exactly a think tank there.

The usual answer is "Klaus Schwab". Daniel Greenfield this morning posited that the Deep State has become a self-licking ice cream cone where no one person issues orders.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 01:00 PM (FD5dr)

169 115 Obama desperately wants Kamala to be president.

And he's been trying to push Biden out since the 2020 primary, unsuccessfully.

Obama's been unsuccessful there because he's literally the only person who wants Kamala to be president. Even Big Mike thinks it's a bad idea.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:52 PM (FD5dr)

_________________________________

I disagree with this. Harris is firmly in the Clinton camp. He choice as running mate was a consolation to Hillary. Ironically, Newsom is, also, in the Clinton camp. That's what makes it so precarious for Obama. He needs to by-pass a sitting VP, overlook the most applicable replacement (Newsom) and find someone else....which is why Whitmer's name keeps coming up. She is a shit governor, has minimal recognition nationally, and doesn't present herself well publicly. When Obama tried to run his wife's name out there, she quickly ran and did an interview highlighting her battle with depression. Michele Obama wants nothing to do with politics. Dems are in a tough spot.

Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (dIske)

170 hustling to follow a trim, blond woman

Geez, no editors at Vogue any more?
1. no need for the comma.
2. it's "blonde" for Dr Mrs Homewrecker Jill
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (Rbu5d)

3. That horrid old skank hasn't qualified as "trim" in decades.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (VoAdT)

171 "Nice to know leftists are allowed to call for violence without risking a visit from the FBI."

This would make a fantastic Saturday Night Live skit if they were interested in being funny.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (IHRQq)

172 So a President could never be prosecuted for conducting foreign policy or directing the military.

I remember during the Shrub years the left/FNM told me the president could be arrested for "war crimes" like allowing American soldiers to shoot at enemies.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (oZhjI)

173 I thought Clinton's argument was he didn't stick it in all the way, and he didn't enjoy it.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (1bNHn)

You show some empathy for one fat chick, and suddenly you're a scoundrel.

Posted by: William Jefferson Clintoon at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (DctLG)

174 A lot of the crazy ones over on X after the ruling are calling for Trump's assassination because this ruling means Biden can kill his political opponents now.

Posted by: Biergood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (PwgSL)

175 71...DOCTOR Jill is on the cover of the new Vogue this morning. Biden's not going anywhere.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:45 PM (FD5dr)

========

I've been assured that every public display of loyalty to Biden is assurance that he's already gone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:46 PM (GBKbO)

Magazine covers are decided months in advance.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (Rbu5d)

176 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC

The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

177 Ace sure must love legal arguments to list them in such copious detail. Is Ace a lawyer?
Once upon a time, I would have found them fascinating too. But seeing the regularity with which judges, juries and prosecutors ignore them, they seem as valid as D & D rules now.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 01, 2024 01:02 PM (jbnUc)

178 Presidents can violate the law as long as it’s within the “outer perimeter” of official acts. And right-wing stacked courts decide where that line falls. The SCOTUS decision states questionable POTUS acts are presumed immune until SCOTUS decides otherwise.

None of this is in the Constitution, btw. As I said, “zany nightmare”.

Democratic Party Presidents are screwed. Republicon presidents will have carte blanche to do whatever they want, because Dems will abide by right and wrong. Republicon Presidents will not. If there was ever a time for a power grab by a President, it is now. Time for some political jujitsu President Biden.

The Obama administration claimed the absolute authority of the executive branch to target and kill American citizens outside the US who they considered to be national security threats. The courts agreed.

Link?!

AN -- as in 1 -- American citizen based on a Republican introduced LAW. This has zero to do with immunity, so what’s your point?

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2024 01:02 PM (JCZqz)

179 We can't.
But ONLY if he had his PENIS out.
It's the Presidential Penis of Immunity clause in the Constitution.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024

***
OMG
That "constitution" thing
So patriarchal and misogynist
I can't even

Posted by: AWFLs Everywhere at July 01, 2024 01:02 PM (J2vNu)

180 176 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC

The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

=======

How about doing what SCOTUS is asking you to do and write better laws?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

181 For example, the indictment alleges that the President "asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing" about election fraud claims.

I'm gonna need one of you legal types to explain to me how someone saying, "Hey, officeholder, please do this thing" - absent bribes or threats - can be classified as a crime. Further, given that his was request was merely that they investigate hinky shit that was going on in their state, it's not even an unreasonable request.

Yeah, that occurred to me. If his request wasn't an official act, then it has no more teeth than someone writing in to the governor and demanding a hearing.

They'll have to prove that Trump used some sort of presidential leverage, and AFAIK, there is absolutely no evidence of that.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:02 PM (xCA6C)

182 143 She was AG in CA. She was a sitting Senator.

oh. misread that. thought it might be about me.

Posted by: amber heard at July 01, 2024 01:03 PM (sGtp+)

183 This would make a fantastic Saturday Night Live skit if they were interested in being funny.

It would work really really well like that Tom Brady Sexual Harassment Skit...

Only instead of Tom in his undies telling Tina Fey he wants to do the horizontal mambo with her and it NOT being sexual harassment you could have some Antifite literally burning someone to death labeled as "mostly peaceful protesting"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 01:03 PM (oZhjI)

184 I'm gonna need one of you legal types to explain to me how someone saying, "Hey, officeholder, please do this thing" - absent bribes or threats - can be classified as a crime.

The left is projecting again. When *they* make a polite request, it's always to be understood as "do this under penalty of death". They don't understand that the rest of the world doesn't work that way.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 01:03 PM (FD5dr)

185 All the sudden I’m as paranoid as Costanza (God wouldn’t let me be successful…

. It’s been such a good week, I hope we haven’t peaked too soon. It’s like marathon training…. Go hard but not too hard and then taper before the contest so you’re strong in the last 10K on race day (that’d be early November for this prez contest)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 01, 2024 01:03 PM (SlNuN)

186 Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (dIske)

I agree in that I think Obama has trouble figuring out how to open a child proof container.

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (SHMXB)

187 Heh. PDT at his next rally. "Hey, gang, wanna see an elephant imitation?"

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (V5eKu)

188 I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

Of the SCOTUS ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (IyPmt)

189 178 Democratic Party Presidents are screwed. Republicon presidents will have carte blanche to do whatever they want, because Dems will abide by right and wrong. Republicon Presidents will not. If there was ever a time for a power grab by a President, it is now. Time for some political jujitsu President Biden.

The Obama administration claimed the absolute authority of the executive branch to target and kill American citizens outside the US who they considered to be national security threats. The courts agreed.

Link?!

AN -- as in 1 -- American citizen based on a Republican introduced LAW. This has zero to do with immunity, so what’s your point?
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2024 01:02 PM (JCZqz)

======

Oh, this is fun. There are parts of the left that think Obama didn't kill an American citizen (and his American citizen son)? Who was also brown, by the way? And that it's just right-wing misinformation?

Oh, someone's getting banned at DU for this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

190 143
She didn't suddenly become rock-bottom stupid and incomprehensible. She's always been like this (I believe San Franpsycho has some tangential connections to people who worked with her in SF who verify). It's not a surprise to anyone. They knew. They wanted her anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

In their zeal to get a woman (Biden promised a female VP, IIRC) and a woman of color - they narrowed down the number of candidates available. Plus, they needed "life and impeachment insurance" for Biden.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (N39Ws)

191
I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.

That should go over like a drinking night Taco Bell binge fart in church.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)

192 I'm sure Obama will be as successful at influencing the candidate selection process as he was in bringing the Olympics to Chicago.

Posted by: Remember, He's a Tard at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (DctLG)

193 DU is is an amazing cesspool of lunacy and legal illiteracy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (tT6L1)

194 From my very limited standing once a person pleads guilty to an offense it is extremely difficult to withdraw that plea deal. So I suspect the ones who plead to those charges will have those charges remain and the very few who took trials will get their charges dismissed.

No, my understanding is that when a law is found to be improperly applied, it is as though there was no legal charge in the first place. While people who were coerced into accepting a plea on different charges have a more difficult path, the government essentially committed fraud in extracting the plea. Its like there was a threat to charge you with murder when nobody died.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (CecP5)

195 I thought Clinton's argument was he didn't stick it in all the way, and he didn't enjoy it.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 12:58 PM (1bNHn)

He didn't inhale, either.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (AwYPR)

196 > "And now no one knows what the hell a Samnite even is.

Isn't that a brand of durable and innovative luggage?

Posted by: Just reporting at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (scll+)

197 191
I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.

That should go over like a drinking night Taco Bell binge fart in church.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)

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The fundraising email with that line will raise tens of thousands of dollars, though.

And they'll go right to the establishment's back pocket, because AOC is an establishment tool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

198 176 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC

The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

Okay, go ahead. Can’t we get someone semi competent to run against her?

Posted by: Piper at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (/sySz)

199 182 143 She was AG in CA. She was a sitting Senator.

oh. misread that. thought it might be about me.
Posted by: amber heard at July 01, 2024 01:03 PM (sGtp+)

Well as a sitting Senator, we all know what she was seated on. Willy Brown.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (N39Ws)

200 Samnite or Differenite?
Posted by: TMI From gp at July 01, 2024

***
Samnite. But then, I'm hardly impartial. I dated a girl called Caudine Forks once.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (J2vNu)

201 156 I keep having a question running through my feeble mind. If Obama and Jarret and the rest of the Kalorama Kids are running Biden, who are they getting orders from? Not exactly a think tank there.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 12:59 PM (V5eKu)

[buffs fingernails]

Posted by: Stan at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (Rbu5d)

202 His ego is so unmatched with his actual ability, it's crazy.
---
Maybe I'm wrong but he's been the most invisible former President I've seen.

Never seen anywhere.
Except on vacation.
But never near or meeting with power figures.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (KKOmD)

203 198 176 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC

The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

Okay, go ahead. Can’t we get someone semi competent to run against her?
Posted by: Piper at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (/sySz)

Not sure if the Rs even put a candidate up to run for that seat.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (eYoxG)

204 And they'll go right to the establishment's back pocket, because AOC is an establishment tool.

She's so middle-of-the-establishment-road that her claims of being radical are hilarious.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (FD5dr)

205 203 Okay, go ahead. Can’t we get someone semi competent to run against her?
Posted by: Piper at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (/sySz)

Not sure if the Rs even put a candidate up to run for that seat.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (eYoxG)

======

Well, NY GOP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

206 @visegrad24
·
Follow
BREAKING:

Javier Milei has disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of its employees.

The rest were redirected to work in the old Department of Gender Protection, which will now be renamed as the “Department of Family Protection”

https://instapundit.com/657846/

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (v+pQp)

207 Geez, no editors at Vogue any more?
1. no need for the comma.
2. it's "blonde" for Dr Mrs Homewrecker Jill

We aren't British.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (xCA6C)

208 I'm thinking that the who controls whom speculation is becoming irrelevant. The temple walls are coming down no matter where the fingers are pointed.

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (rj6Yv)

209 AOC

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

So your outraged but, mmm, I'm on vaca right now so it'll have to wait.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (G0vdT)

210 I wonder if AOC posts at DU? She certainly seems to know the DU talking points quite well.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (tT6L1)

211 Samnite. But then, I'm hardly impartial. I dated a girl called Caudine Forks once.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Was she a prong star?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (v6JzV)

212 All the lefties now screaming "Biden can nuke Trump," better save those tweets for when Trump wins, and hopefully enacts their wish of presidents taking out their opponents. I mean if it's fair game and all now.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (C09IE)

213 BREAKING:

Javier Milei has disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of its employees.

The rest were redirected to work in the old Department of Gender Protection, which will now be renamed as the “Department of Family Protection”

https://instapundit.com/657846/
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (v+pQp)

This guy for king of everything.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

214 from a leftwing group's email today:

The ruling in Donald J. Trump v. United States is nothing less than a judicial coup. This is not jurisprudence; it is judicial tyranny orchestrated by justices who have forsaken their oath to the Constitution and shredded any pretense of neutrality to wield their collective power as a political weapon for a far-right, extremist, authoritarian agenda.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (CWTWj)

215 "I wonder if AOC posts at DU? She certainly seems to know the DU talking points quite well."

She just reads the little cards they put in front of her.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (IHRQq)

216 I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.

Okay, but only if you're topless.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (xCA6C)

217 214 from a leftwing group's email today:

The ruling in Donald J. Trump v. United States is nothing less than a judicial coup. This is not jurisprudence; it is judicial tyranny orchestrated by justices who have forsaken their oath to the Constitution and shredded any pretense of neutrality to wield their collective power as a political weapon for a far-right, extremist, authoritarian agenda.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (CWTWj)

========

"The judiciary continuing established precedent for Trump is a coup."
-Translation

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

218 The Idea! That a President can just wave his Penis and kill someone!
The Idea that Kagen will gaze longingly upon the Penis!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (KKOmD)

219 150 And now no one knows what the hell a Samnite even is.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Don't be silly. Samnite Gamgee was one of the main characters in LOTR.

samsonite > samnite

Posted by: the gorillas moving your luggage at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (sGtp+)

220 Why do you hate women, misogynist?
Posted by: Ribbed
.......

How can I hate them when I have no idea what they are?

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

221 The ruling in Donald J. Trump v. United States is nothing less than a judicial coup. This is not jurisprudence; it is judicial tyranny orchestrated by justices who have forsaken their oath to the Constitution and shredded any pretense of neutrality to wield their collective power as a political weapon for a far-right, extremist, authoritarian agenda.

They do wind themselves up, don't they?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (xCA6C)

222 I kinda like the DailyKos interpretation of todays SCOTUS ruling:

The Supreme Court just gave convicted felon Donald Trump everything he wanted. In a 6-3 decision issued Monday, the court’s six conservative justices granted him sweeping immunity from key elements of the federal Jan. 6 case against him, all wrapped up in a flimsy conceit that the lower courts need to take it back to reconsider precisely what conduct he can be prosecuted for.

Posted by: President Donald J. Trump at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (kT4OI)

223 It's been observed here before, but how are the Dems unable to recognize that perverting and weaponizing the federal government against political opponents almost guarantees that it will boomerang against them when the balance of power is altered?

Posted by: John Drake Is Somewhat Impressed By The Astrakhan Kremlin at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (JFyq7)

224 She didn't suddenly become rock-bottom stupid and incomprehensible. She's always been like this (I believe San Franpsycho has some tangential connections to people who worked with her in SF who verify). It's not a surprise to anyone. They knew. They wanted her anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

====
I dunno she always struck me as a bright lady but I guess I was wrong.

I wasn't wrong about Gavin. He has always come across like what he is, an empty suit.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (RIvkX)

225

Was she a prong star?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (v6JzV)

Don't think she was in the band.......

https://youtu.be/KjCQ7tJlDIk

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

226 I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

Of the SCOTUS ?
Posted by: It's me donna

What a deep thinker she is. I am pretty sure that she was a lousy bartender as well. Probably sat behind the bar on her phone, ignoring customers, screwing up drinks when she did work, and constantly badgering co-workers to cover her shifts for her.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (oiNtH)

227 222 I kinda like the DailyKos interpretation of todays SCOTUS ruling:

The Supreme Court just gave convicted felon Donald Trump everything he wanted. In a 6-3 decision issued Monday, the court’s six conservative justices granted him sweeping immunity from key elements of the federal Jan. 6 case against him, all wrapped up in a flimsy conceit that the lower courts need to take it back to reconsider precisely what conduct he can be prosecuted for.
Posted by: President Donald J. Trump at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (kT4OI)

========

"Actually following the law is fascism. The establishment should be able to jail whomever they wish to protect their power at all times. That's democracy."
-Translation

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

228 In case you're wondering...this almost guarantees that on July 11th Trump is going to get put in prison in NY.

They are all in, and while the original plan may have been to move multiple trials in before the election, that has since fallen through. So, Plan B. They will put Trump in jail and hope for massive unrest from the supporters to use to sway moderates and independents.

Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:10 PM (dIske)

229
So "Dicks out for Harambe!" was the foreshadowing for this case?

Good to know!

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at July 01, 2024 01:10 PM (xG4kz)

230 224 I dunno she always struck me as a bright lady but I guess I was wrong.

I wasn't wrong about Gavin. He has always come across like what he is, an empty suit.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (RIvkX)

=======

Maybe I'm mixing up my stories. Weren't you a source for tales of her being massively abusive? I'm trying to sort through my mind thoughts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

231 Javier Milei has disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of its employees.

The rest were redirected to work in the old Department of Gender Protection, which will now be renamed as the “Department of Family Protection”

https://instapundit.com/657846/
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 01:07 PM (v+pQp)
====
All public employees should be transferred to the Department of Central Services.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (RIvkX)

232 227
When her 15 minutes are up in the House, she'll open an OnlyFans account. Don't need brains for that.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (N39Ws)

233
How can I hate them when I have no idea what they are?

Posted by: wth at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM

Try my method to be sure.

Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (RKVpM)

234 Maybe I'm mixing up my stories. Weren't you a source for tales of her being massively abusive? I'm trying to sort through my mind thoughts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)
===

Abusive to me? Yeah.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (RIvkX)

235 My 3 year old, Jaden, looked up from the MSNBC broadcast he was watching this morning, and with tears in his eyes asked, "Does this really mean Trump can impose prima nochta and ravish mommy in front of us again and again and again, forcing her to repeatedly orgasm against her will and have a MAGA baby with no chance of an abortion?" I didn't know what to say. Jaden and I just held each other and wept.

Posted by: Soy Patrol at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (DctLG)

236 re 195: as i recall, he said that 'i wasn't having sex with her, she was having sex with me'

he also claimed he didn't enjoy it, didn't he?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (CWTWj)

237 all wrapped up in a flimsy conceit that the lower courts need to take it back to reconsider precisely what conduct he can be prosecuted for.

Do they even read what they write? Heaven forfend that we identify the conduct for which someone should be prosecuted.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (xCA6C)

238 The ruling in Donald J. Trump v. United States is nothing less than a judicial coup. This is not jurisprudence; it is judicial tyranny orchestrated by justices who have forsaken their oath to the Constitution and shredded any pretense of neutrality to wield their collective power as a political weapon for a far-right, extremist, authoritarian agenda.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 01:08 PM (CWTWj)

Psychopaths with no self awareness. Everything is emotion .

Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (SHMXB)

239 228 In case you're wondering...this almost guarantees that on July 11th Trump is going to get put in prison in NY.

They are all in, and while the original plan may have been to move multiple trials in before the election, that has since fallen through. So, Plan B. They will put Trump in jail and hope for massive unrest from the supporters to use to sway moderates and independents.
Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:10 PM (dIske)

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I still remember Letita James overshooting, getting smacked down several times in a row (lowering the bond, and then accepting the bond company she didn't want to accept), and Trump losing none of his buildings, like she had publicly threatened to do.

Why pull back if they're at that stage of uncaring about the look of things?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

240 Maybe I'm mixing up my stories. Weren't you a source for tales of her being massively abusive? I'm trying to sort through my mind thoughts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

White mind thoughts go on the left side of the thought drawer, black thoughts on the right, and red thoughts in the middle.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (v6JzV)

241 Stephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera

Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

Haven't caught up but, this 'lady' (I'm not assuming anything!) should obviously quit her current position and find one where she feels 'safe'.
Maybe Hunter or Harvey W. can help her.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (omzh6)

242 In case you're wondering...this almost guarantees that on July 11th Trump is going to get put in prison in NY.

Of course.

My question is: can Merchan order Trump to prison right from the courtroom, or can Trump delay being imprisoned while he pursues appeals?

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (uxCna)

243 213
‘ Javier Milei has disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of its employees. ’

It would be funnier if he kept the department but fired all the women.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (jbnUc)

244 234 Abusive to me? Yeah.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (RIvkX)

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So, people who are abusive to you end up in high power in the US government?

Well, you are a smelly person of questionable taste in shoe laces.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)

245 The combination to all my Samnite luggage is 12345.

Posted by: President Skroob at July 01, 2024 01:13 PM (Ybyk2)

246 I dunno she always struck me as a bright lady but I guess I was wrong.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (RIvkX)

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Are you talking about Nancy Pelosi?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:13 PM (JeYYB)

247 The left: The Constitution is a worn out old document from 250 years ago.

Also the left: This is not jurisprudence; it is judicial tyranny orchestrated by justices who have forsaken their oath to the Constitution

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:13 PM (IHRQq)

248
If Biden was popular before the debate, and then his popularity tanked with the debate, another candidate could (could) fix that.

But he was unpopular before the debate. The debate just made it worse. Another candidate doesn't fix that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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At least part of the reason Biden is unpopular is he's the guy in charge when things got worse.

Also, the debate showed the world he has completely lost his faculties. Another Democrat is not going have that same headwind.

It would be a big win if the Dems can swap him out, Biden is the absolute weakest Democrat.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 01:14 PM (wMRY8)

249 I'm trying to sort through my mind thoughts.

Heh. I suspect many here don't remember the origin of that phrase. IIRC, it was some soldier who waxed on about his deep thoughts.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:14 PM (xCA6C)

250 I'd love to see a little happiness around here!
Posted by: BlackOrchid

https://is.gd/4zSP9w

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 01:14 PM (T7iTv)

251 241 Stephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera

Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

Seriously ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 01:14 PM (IyPmt)

252 There is a lot of penis in that dissent !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 01, 2024 01:15 PM (NtVYv)

253 In case you're wondering...this almost guarantees that on July 11th Trump is going to get put in prison in NY.

They are all in, and while the original plan may have been to move multiple trials in before the election, that has since fallen through. So, Plan B. They will put Trump in jail and hope for massive unrest from the supporters to use to sway moderates and independents.
Posted by: Orson

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I agree, the SC needs to intervene before this happens. A former President will be cuffed and escorted into a prison cell over like an $8k tax dispute.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 01:15 PM (wMRY8)

254 My question is: can Merchan order Trump to prison right from the courtroom, or can Trump delay being imprisoned while he pursues appeals?
Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (uxCna)
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NY Courts told PDT he had to pay a fine before he could appeal the judgement.

I'm betting judge Marchan is cut from similar cloth and will try to order PDT directly to jail.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:15 PM (tT6L1)

255 I think this was about the best he could have hoped for from this court.

Posted by: steevy at July 01, 2024 01:15 PM (HJ9BW)

256
Why pull back if they're at that stage of uncaring about the look of things?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM

One word, 'January 21, 2025'.

If they can't see the new Sheriff on the horizon loading his six shooter before heading into town, then no sympathy for them.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (RKVpM)

257 Why pull back if they're at that stage of uncaring about the look of things?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

______________________________________

At that point the DOJ case and the Georgia indictments were all still very much on the table to reach fruition prior to election day. That's no longer the case.

Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (dIske)

258 re 235: at a wedding does the president of mexico get prima nachos?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (CWTWj)

259 So soon after pride month?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (bQfSd)

260 It would be a big win if the Dems can swap him out, Biden is the absolute weakest Democrat.

Agreed - but the D's problem is there is no obvious replacement, and the knife fighting breaks out immediately if they can get rid of Joe.

You're really going to install straight white male Newsom instead of Kamala?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (uxCna)

261 @242

>>My question is: can Merchan order Trump to prison right from the courtroom, or can Trump delay being imprisoned while he pursues appeals?

Trump can be remanded to custody immediately.

We will definitely get the sense of what these maniacs have in store in the next week, as if they do intend on imprisoning him, the details are going to have to be hashed out with the Secret Service and the fact that those discussions are going on are going to leak quicker than The Meat Puppets overburdened Depends.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (XV/Pl)

262 She was my assigned city attorney when I was in the mayor's office, and I helped her get elected DA.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (RIvkX)

263 I believe the Supreme Court is attempting to use kid gloves and demonstrate restraint in the hope that it inspires others. As the left gets more aggressive, they are taking away their toys, one by one.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (IHRQq)

264 I'd love to see a little happiness around here!
Posted by: BlackOrchid

https://is.gd/4zSP9w

That picture must be 25-30 years old. She's now 50.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)

265 There is a lot of penis in that dissent !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

You have to read it in depth, though, and not just glans at it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (v6JzV)

266 231 All public employees should be transferred to the Department of Central Services.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM (RIvkX)

No. They should be transferred to the "Department of Be Homeless and Starve To Death".

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (UnA8+)

267 They're two smart by half.

>UK Guardian, Kosovo, 28 Feb 2018: top war crimes prosecutor forced to leave amid US state department inertia
David Schwendiman said he is being made to leave the job at a critical stage of the tribunal’s work with no designated successor

>WaPo,'How Jack Smith charged Kosovo’s president and blew up a Trump meeting' As a war crimes prosecutor in The Hague, Smith pursued the case despite pressure to halt it, questions about legitimacy of his role, By Devlin Barrett and Rosalind S. Helderman, Updated January 24, 2023 at 9:38 a.m. EST|Published January 20, 2023 at 12:15 p.m. EST

>NACIONALE, POLITIKË
The Biden Administration fell into the trap it set for the Trump Administration, N Berat Buzhala
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Remember Bill's bombing, Beau in Kosovo the end of the 1990s, Kosovo Awards Posthumous Presidential Medal To Beau Biden...

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (NFX2v)

268 235: Heh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (qZEuM)

269 @ItsStephPerera

Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

The only ones at risk on that day were those brutally attacked and murdered by capitol police, dipshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

270 Okay, go ahead. Can’t we get someone semi competent to run against her?
Posted by: Piper at July 01, 2024 01:05 PM (/sySz)

Not sure if the Rs even put a candidate up to run for that seat.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 01, 2024 01:06 PM (eYoxG)
*******
Nancy Pelosi said that the Democrats could put up a glass of water in her district and it would win.
She won her primary so she's a lock.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (NpAcC)

271 262 She was my assigned city attorney when I was in the mayor's office, and I helped her get elected DA.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01

Well thanks a heck of a lot!

Posted by: Piper at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (/sySz)

272 Are you talking about Nancy Pelosi?
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:13 PM (JeYYB)
===

Kamala Harris

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (RIvkX)

273 That picture must be 25-30 years old. She's now 50.

I mean, don't get me wrong, she's not a leprous prostitute like that Madhuri Dixit.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:17 PM (xCA6C)

274 I'm betting judge Marchan is cut from similar cloth and will try to order PDT directly to jail.

I'm sure he'll do that if he has the authority to do that.

I'm just wondering if Trump has any ability to delay the execution of sentence, pending appeals.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (uxCna)

275 I turned on NPR solely to hear the lamentations of Nina Totenberg,, and was not disappointed.

Posted by: epador at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (+IHFo)

276 it appears that biden and kamala are an albatross around the other's neck. they both stink.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (CWTWj)

277 Stephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera

Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
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Effing cities were burned down before J6 by the left, Americans are being killed by illegals and government agents and this twit is worried about her safe space?

"deep breath, deep breath, deep breath"

One of the most infuriating things I've read in a while.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (tT6L1)

278 Bannon goes to prison and Garland is guilty as hell yet free as a bird for the same offense. The GOP is weaker than Biden.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (aFNOf)

279 257 At that point the DOJ case and the Georgia indictments were all still very much on the table to reach fruition prior to election day. That's no longer the case.
Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (dIske)

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That's not why they pulled back on the bond stuff.

They pulled back because Hochul was getting panicked calls from other NY billionaires about the abuse of power that could be trained upon them ("Oh, no, this is just a Donald Trump thing," Hochul lied).

Everything was going hot on all fronts. It was get him on everything in the hope of getting something to stick. It wasn't a court order that got James to stop with the bond games. It was internal politics.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)

280 This excrement is worse than Citizen's Band radio.

Posted by: 80's music fan at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (QSrLX)

281
More helpful language: Biden's political prosecutors will have to prove that their prosecution will not chill future presidents from acting according to their judgement.

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Worse, F. Joe Mugabe's criminal felonious, & treasonous political spying, prosecutions, bankruptcies, imprisonments, & career cancellations of anybody associated with the Trump campaign & presidency -- from Trump & Flynn, to Bannon & Navarro, to Page & Manafort, to Giuliani & all other Trump lawyers, to the thousands of poor J6 attendees -- will chill MANY individuals from participating in "civil" politics ever again.

*spit*

HEADS ON PIKES!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 01, 2024 01:19 PM (qCacp)

282 If Trump goes to jail is there any bump left to get from undecideds and independents?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:19 PM (JeYYB)

283 From the Jarvis parody, I wonder is the carpet matches the drapes.

Posted by: Crazy at July 01, 2024 01:19 PM (C6gRK)

284 280 This excrement is worse than Citizen's Band radio.

10-4 good buddy

Posted by: 11 long-haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus at July 01, 2024 01:19 PM (sGtp+)

285 the President "asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing" about election fraud claims.

Asked! Asking is a crime? Only if you are intending to persecute a political opponent into prison. Just like skateboarding, asking, is not a crime.

Now, if Trump, said he would bomb the Arizona legislature if they didn't flip the election in his favor, or even more clear, actually had the Arizona legislature bombed by the US Airforce, well, that is a whole different matter. But he didn't. He asked because he was legally contesting an election, an election the was arguably fraudulent.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (ZRbQD)

286 You're really going to install straight white male Newsom instead of Kamala?
Posted by: The ARC of History!

____

But do black voters even like Kamala? I dont think this is as big a roadblock as some people do.

I remember when Obama beat Hillary, there was some prediction of female voters jumping ship from the Democrat Party. They didn't.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (wMRY8)

287 Brandon and Kamala. Its whats for dinner.

Posted by: 80's music fan at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (QSrLX)

288 Stephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera

Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

-

The same press that told you about Biden also told you about J6.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (FgLs1)

289 275 I turned on NPR solely to hear the lamentations of Nina Totenberg,, and was not disappointed.
Posted by: epador at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (+IHFo)

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"SCOTUS has found ways to make itself more powerful, which is in alignment with what RBG wanted but doesn't help the current political argument of the day."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

290 I still remember Letita James overshooting, getting smacked down several times in a row (lowering the bond, and then accepting the bond company she didn't want to accept), and Trump losing none of his buildings, like she had publicly threatened to do.

Why pull back if they're at that stage of uncaring about the look of things?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

Merchan has already crossed his Rubicon. Everything else the Dems have tried has gone belly-up, and Republicans are fascist terrorists, so, why not? Who cares if NY votes Trump in November?

Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

291 Joe has to step down, he can't be forced to.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 12:48 PM (FD5dr)

I cannot even imagine what inducement they could offer. He holds the highest office in the land, he's dying, he doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but himself, and he can pardon everyone in his family (for federal crimes anyway) and lefties are unlikely to go after them since it would lessen loyalty among the street soldiers hoping to become a capo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 01:21 PM (T7iTv)

292 290 Merchan has already crossed his Rubicon. Everything else the Dems have tried has gone belly-up, and Republicans are fascist terrorists, so, why not? Who cares if NY votes Trump in November?
Posted by: mrp at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

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Because it's not about votes, it's about donation money and maintaining the tax base in the state?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

293 251 241 Stephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera
Are all the Hill staffers who lived through J6 ok right now? Asking because as one of them I am very much not.

Seriously ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 01:14 PM (IyPmt)

https://x.com/itsstephperera

Posted by: Stan at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (Rbu5d)

294 Faxxists taking round after round:

@robbystarbuck 34m
Incredible. A Federal Jury has determined that Blue Cross BlueShield of Tennessee must pay $700,000 to an employee that was fired for refusing the COVID vaccine.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (IG4Id)

295 One of the most infuriating things I've read in a while.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:18 PM (tT6L1)

I would say "you ought never feel safe again you petty tyrant", but then i'd just delete it before posting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (VoAdT)

296 off, evil sock

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (Rbu5d)

297 This excrement is worse than Citizen's Band radio.

10-4 good buddy
Posted by: 11 long-haired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus at July 01, 2024 01:19 PM (sGtp+)

Hunter gets to be the Snowman.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (qZEuM)

298 291 I cannot even imagine what inducement they could offer. He holds the highest office in the land, he's dying, he doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but himself, and he can pardon everyone in his family (for federal crimes anyway) and lefties are unlikely to go after them since it would lessen loyalty among the street soldiers hoping to become a capo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 01:21 PM (T7iTv)

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Also.

In five weeks, when he's the official nominee after the zoom call to meet the Ohio deadline, it all goes away and everyone backs him again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

299
"SCOTUS has found ways to make itself more powerful, which is in alignment with what RBG wanted but doesn't help the current political argument of the day."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

What part of Supreme Court don't they get ? Supreme is Supreme...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (IyPmt)

300 How is "the President 'ask[ing] the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing' about election fraud claims" a crime?

What is the law prohibiting the President from asking that question?

Posted by: Tar Bae at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (uR4Tu)

301 Would be surprised to see Trump get 90 days in jail on 7/11. That will be stayed pending appeal.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (NMNWr)

302 But do black voters even like Kamala? I dont think this is as big a roadblock as some people do.

Black women do, because if she isn't selected, it's dissing them. They don't care if she's a sure loser, which she is.

The Dems absolutely cannot lose the black female vote.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:23 PM (xCA6C)

303 237 all wrapped up in a flimsy conceit that the lower courts need to take it back to reconsider precisely what conduct he can be prosecuted for.

Do they even read what they write? Heaven forfend that we identify the conduct for which someone should be prosecuted.

identifying the conduct for which one is being prosecuted is one of the hallmarks of white supremacy

Posted by: alvin bragg at July 01, 2024 01:23 PM (sGtp+)

304 My 3 year old, Jaden, looked up from the MSNBC broadcast he was watching this morning, and with tears in his eyes asked, "Does this really mean Trump can impose prima nochta and ravish mommy in front of us again and again and again, forcing her to repeatedly orgasm against her will and have a MAGA baby with no chance of an abortion?" I didn't know what to say. Jaden and I just held each other and wept.
Posted by: Soy Patrol at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM

Comment of the week nomination, right here.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 01, 2024 01:23 PM (iRX3h)

305 @robbystarbuck 34m
Incredible. A Federal Jury has determined that Blue Cross BlueShield of Tennessee must pay $700,000 to an employee that was fired for refusing the COVID vaccine.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

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HE KILLED MY GRANDMA!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at July 01, 2024 01:23 PM (FgLs1)

306 Anyone what dun something I no like has committed an undemoncracy is the first degree. Better believe I'll be leaving a negative recoew on Yelp.

Posted by: AOC, who is smart, not dumb like everyone says at July 01, 2024 01:23 PM (DctLG)

307 The difference between engineering and the legal profession. Physical law only works one way - violate it and reality punishes you. Man made laws are whatever you can convince a judge and jury they are.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:23 PM (CecP5)

308 But do black voters even like Kamala? I dont think this is as big a roadblock as some people do.

Black women do, because if she isn't selected, it's dissing them. They don't care if she's a sure loser, which she is.

The Dems absolutely cannot lose the black female vote.
Posted by: Archimedes

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(lays $100 on table)

Only 20% or so of black women vote.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at July 01, 2024 01:24 PM (FgLs1)

309 307 Yup. The law is a ass.

Posted by: TMI From gp at July 01, 2024 01:24 PM (tK8Kz)

310 260... and the knife fighting breaks out immediately if they can get rid of Joe.
...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (uxCna)

Politics IS a blood sport, they say.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 01, 2024 01:24 PM (Rbu5d)

311 Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (IG4Id)

BWahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Iasonas at July 01, 2024 01:25 PM (2O9Sc)

312 There has been a more judicious deployment of the flaming skull as of late.

But I suspect that is going to change as we get closer to the election.
Posted by: Just reporting at July 01, 2024 12:49 PM (scll+)

Ace is a sober and adult blogger who eschews hyperbole.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 01:25 PM (T7iTv)

313 I thought knife fights were the mexicans?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at July 01, 2024 01:25 PM (FgLs1)

314 Black women do, because if she isn't selected, it's dissing them. They don't care if she's a sure loser, which she is.

The Dems absolutely cannot lose the black female vote.
Posted by: Archimedes

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But they aren't voting Trump over this, and Kamala will still be on the ticket. Black women are like 97% reliable Democrat voters no matter what.

I think the next 2 weeks are crucial to what happens next. I really, really want Biden to be the nominee, but Dems are really good about getting people out of the way.

Posted by: Blago at July 01, 2024 01:25 PM (wMRY8)

315 "forcing her to repeatedly orgasm against her will"

I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:25 PM (JeYYB)

316 @301

>>Would be surprised to see Trump get 90 days in jail on 7/11. That will be stayed pending appeal.

You don't hang 136 years worth of felony counts around an Ex-Presidents neck to then give them a tap on the wrist.

He'll get 7.5 to 13 years at a minimum and if they are really feeling sporty, 25 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM (XV/Pl)

317 The assumption here is that Merchan wants DJT murdered in prison.

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM (UnA8+)

318 Mean girls diplomas: roll the presses

Posted by: 80's music fan at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM (QSrLX)

319 Black women do, because if she isn't selected, it's dissing them. They don't care if she's a sure loser, which she is.

Let me tell you, the Burger King parking lot will be angry on that day, my friends.

Posted by: Charbroiled Wisdom at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM (DctLG)

320 313 Never been to a three day Finnish wedding?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM (V5eKu)

321 I'd love to see a little happiness around here!
Posted by: BlackOrchid

https://is.gd/4zSP9w

That picture must be 25-30 years old. She's now 50.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)
=================
Still....

I guess its not AtC with Victory Tits but I really applaud the effort here!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 01:27 PM (JrJiW)

322 Let me tell you, the Burger King parking lot will be angry on that day, my friends.
Posted by: Charbroiled Wisdom at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM (DctLG)

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Charbroiled Wisdom

You guys are killing it today.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:27 PM (JeYYB)

323 Black women do, because if she isn't selected, it's dissing them. They don't care if she's a sure loser, which she is.
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Black women in America could use a good dissing. 10% of the population is not even worth unmuting to listen to.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:27 PM (IHRQq)

324 They pulled back because Hochul was getting panicked calls from other NY billionaires about the abuse of power that could be trained upon them ("Oh, no, this is just a Donald Trump thing," Hochul lied).

Everything was going hot on all fronts. It was get him on everything in the hope of getting something to stick. It wasn't a court order that got James to stop with the bond games. It was internal politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:18

__________________________________

The Lawfare group(s) is not concerned with the minutia off State's economic ramifications. Hell, based on their actions relative to business in general, I'd say NY isn't even concerned about their own economic status. Hochul offered up a response basically saying, "Don't worry about it....this application of the law is only for Trump." It wasn't a mea culpa to NY in general....only to the high end donors to the party. The code words saying...if you stick it out, you have nothing to worry about.

They are all in. Everything they have done over the last half decade confirms that. Trump WILL NOT win re-election no matter what.

Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:27 PM (dIske)

325 Not that I think, want, or desire, to see Trump in prison while accepting the Republican nomination, winning in the biggest landslide since Reagan and being inaugurated, I do find the whole bread and circus aspect of all that oddly appealing.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 01:28 PM (ZRbQD)

326 But they aren't voting Trump over this, and Kamala will still be on the ticket. Black women are like 97% reliable Democrat voters no matter what.

True, but they can just stay home.

Even if Kamala were still on the ticket, and that's an unproven assertion, she'd still have been passed over, and that they would not forgive.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:28 PM (xCA6C)

327 I thought knife fights were the mexicans?
-

Never been to a three day Finnish wedding?

Posted by: bill in arkansas,
-

Ha. No, there was some (D) politician or news personality that said something like "it's cultural for mexicans to have knife fights and it should be celebrated"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at July 01, 2024 01:28 PM (FgLs1)

328 324 The Lawfare group(s) is not concerned with the minutia off State's economic ramifications. Hell, based on their actions relative to business in general, I'd say NY isn't even concerned about their own economic status. Hochul offered up a response basically saying, "Don't worry about it....this application of the law is only for Trump." It wasn't a mea culpa to NY in general....only to the high end donors to the party. The code words saying...if you stick it out, you have nothing to worry about.

They are all in. Everything they have done over the last half decade confirms that. Trump WILL NOT win re-election no matter what.
Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2024 01:27 PM (dIske)

========

If that's the case, then they would have rejected the bond and taken Trump Tower.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

329 Where does using spy agencies to monitor presidential campaigns fall? Is that personal or can any President do ot? Asking for someone in the future who is looking for payback.

Posted by: Bete at July 01, 2024 01:29 PM (LX4y3)

330 Only 20% or so of black women vote.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

The most important ones do 90% of the fraud on voting day, and during the month-long recount, though, since nobody is allowed to question their imperious DMV asses.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 01, 2024 01:29 PM (iRX3h)

331 But do black voters even like Kamala? I dont think this is as big a roadblock as some people do.

Posted by: Blago

Supposedly the same reason black men wouldn't vote for Big Mike. They ain't voting for a mouthy bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 01:29 PM (PrOMo)

332 Finally we have justice and equity. I can't count the number of times Melania was on the cover of Vogue!

Posted by: Debil Wears Prada at July 01, 2024 01:29 PM (V5BDR)

333 I am pretty sure Tthe Hanging Judge will sentence Trump to jail

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 01:30 PM (hnSZX)

334 Finally we have justice and equity. I can't count the number of times Melania was on the cover of Vogue!

I'm sure she's heartbroken.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024 01:30 PM (xCA6C)

335 Supposedly the same reason black men wouldn't vote for Big Mike. They ain't voting for a mouthy bitch.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 01:29 PM (PrOMo)

----

Yeah, they get that at home.

But a strong pimp hand is effective.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:30 PM (JeYYB)

336 If you wear a sombrero, knife fights can be culturally enriching.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 01:30 PM (qZEuM)

337 tephanie Perera
@ItsStephPerera
·
Jan 5, 2022
Replying to
@ItsStephPerera
It makes me so angry sometimes. Because I know if 1/6 hadn’t happened I’d probably still be there. But I’m not.

----
So she left. Good for her, now she can move back to NorCal and be a good cat mom (from her X sig).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 01:31 PM (omzh6)

338 "since nobody is allowed to question their imperious DMV asses."

White people need to grow a spine when dealing with black people. They are all bluff and bluster and white people get scared off when challenged or threatened. Not saying one won't every now and then knife someone, but it's not likely that sort of person would be working at a polling location.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 01:31 PM (IHRQq)

339 >>> 226 I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

Of the SCOTUS ?
Posted by: It's me donna

What a deep thinker she is. I am pretty sure that she was a lousy bartender as well. Probably sat behind the bar on her phone, ignoring customers, screwing up drinks when she did work, and constantly badgering co-workers to cover her shifts for her.
Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 01:09 PM (oiNtH)

Sarah Hoyt had a meme the other day with a pic of Ms. Occasional-Cortex captioned "MABA" Make Alexandria Bartend Again"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 01:31 PM (llON8)

340 Ha. No, there was some (D) politician or news personality that said something like "it's cultural for mexicans to have knife fights and it should be celebrated"
Posted by: Moron Robbie

I have 50 centavos on Jose!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 01:31 PM (PrOMo)

341
Does the "Penis Out Clause" for exception to prosecution under the law apply to the rest of us?

Cuz if so I'd like to use it in my Jaywalking case in court today.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 01, 2024 01:31 PM (TVwkS)

342 Are one-way helicopter rides official acts? I think they are.

Posted by: Ripley at July 01, 2024 01:32 PM (GUOwU)

343 @332

>>Finally we have justice and equity. I can't count the number of times Melania was on the cover of Vogue!

Delta Ki's grade point average is greater than the number of times Melania has appeared on the cover of Vogue.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2024 01:33 PM (XV/Pl)

344 340 Post cock fight knife fights are always the best. Even when "Little Jerry" wins.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 01, 2024 01:33 PM (V5eKu)

345 Merchan is not going to send Trump to jail. He is going to send him directly to prison; there is a big difference.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:33 PM (CecP5)

346
The assumption here is that Merchan wants DJT murdered in prison.

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 01:26 PM

The assumption on my part is that Merchan is one of many of these characters who are getting a steady stream of death threats. Fanni's boyfriend made a point of appearing in photograph with a holster on his hip. It's a dangerous game they're playing and with Joe on the ropes I recall the famous words of a Philadelphia Eagle football player criticized for not going up in the air to bring down a pass, "For who, for what?" was what he said.

At this point I'd say the same thing to all of these characters... For who, for what? The clock is running out and you're going to lose.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2024 01:33 PM (RKVpM)

347 Deadline: Hunter Biden Sues Fox News Over Mock Trial Series

https://tinyurl.com/mryyy4sa

"Biden’s attorneys are not suing Fox News for defamation, but for violations of the state’s civil rights law, restricting the nonconsensual disclosure of sexually explicit images and videos, or “revenge porn.” The lawsuit also claims intentional infliction of emotional distress and unjust enrichment.

“The unlawful publication and dissemination of the Intimate Images by Fox was not made for a legitimate public purpose, where the miniseries featuring a mock trial is not accurately reporting on newsworthy events but rather, is a fictionalized trial of a nonexistent case against Mr. Biden, produced for entertainment purposes,” the lawsuit stated."

It's a nuisance from a junkie who was careless enough to let his sex and masturbation videos leak out to the world. Cry moar, bitch.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 01:34 PM (z8fpR)

348 sotomayor's statement was written by ChatGPT or some similar LLM, right? That is a joke?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2024 01:34 PM (D7oie)

349 I’ve come by to translate the dissent by ourSupreme Court’s Three Stooges into layman’s language.

Using the justice system to follow clearly articulated constitutional foundational principles is a “threat to democracy”. Second, using the courts against a political opponent in violation of those principles is totes ok.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2024 01:35 PM (FpXzY)

350 Finally we have justice and equity. I can't count the number of times Melania was on the cover of Vogue!
Posted by: Debil Wears Prada

They are the same people that did a huge spread with Hillary and Chelsea.

My apologies to the horde for using huge, spread, and Hillary in the same sentence.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 01:35 PM (oiNtH)

351 I'm trying to sort through my mind thoughts.

Heh. I suspect many here don't remember the origin of that phrase. IIRC, it was some soldier who waxed on about his deep thoughts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024

***
Sounds like something out of Dune, or its parody Doon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 01:35 PM (J2vNu)

352 Merchan is not going to send Trump to jail. He is going to send him directly to prison; there is a big difference.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:33 PM (CecP5)
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Think they tried to put PDT in pre trial detention? Because pre trial detention has some of the worst of the worst.

Seriously, though, you are correct. Jail is for 90 day drunk driving offenses, etc. Prison is much harsher.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 01, 2024 01:35 PM (tT6L1)

353 304 My 3 year old, Jaden, looked up from the MSNBC broadcast he was watching this morning, and with tears in his eyes asked, "Does this really mean Trump can impose prima nochta and ravish mommy in front of us again and again and again, forcing her to repeatedly orgasm against her will and have a MAGA baby with no chance of an abortion?" I didn't know what to say. Jaden and I just held each other and wept.
Posted by: Soy Patrol at July 01, 2024 01:11 PM

Jaden starts the puberty blockers next week, his well reasoned choice.

Posted by: Auspex at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (j4U/Z)

354 So, one sham prosecution derailed. Chevron. Hell, it sounds like a bourbon may be needed already.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (Aoykm)

355 I’m old enough to remember when questioning the wisdom of scouts was unpatriotic and a threat to democracy. Like in 2015.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (Upff2)

356 Has that idiot, Hunter Biden, ever heard of the Streisand Effect?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (JeYYB)

357 286.
But do black voters even like Kamala?
Posted by: Blago

Try to think beyond.

SF Gate, May 8, 2024, "One of Friday’s Bay Area events will reportedly be held at the Portola Valley home of wealthy venture capitalist Vinod Khosla, the billionaire co-founder of Sun Microsystems and the founder of Khosla Ventures. Tickets to that event are said to range between $6,600 and $100,000."

Yes, she makes a difference. (And, in as far as average US income, both "Whites" and "Blacks" are far exceeded.)

Black is a bonus. But Kamala was more adapted to her mother's (a child of Indian diplomats) teachings.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (NFX2v)

358 345 Merchan is not going to send Trump to jail. He is going to send him directly to prison; there is a big difference.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:33 PM (CecP5)

Exactly.

Jail is easy.

Prison is where you get sent to get Raped, Beaten, and Shivved.

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (UnA8+)

359
It's a nuisance from a junkie who was careless enough to let his sex and masturbation videos leak out to the world. Cry moar, bitch.
Posted by: Robert

But, the laptop was fake so they were not of Hunter!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2024 01:36 PM (omzh6)

360 My apologies to the horde for using huge, spread, and Hillary in the same sentence.
Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 01:35 PM (oiNtH)
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Hey, that "huge spread" was some of my best work!

Posted by: Omar's tent and mumu emporium at July 01, 2024 01:37 PM (tT6L1)

361 From one of the early quotes: "In the latter case, the President's authority is sometimes "conclusive and preclusive." Id., at 638 (Jackson, J., concurring). When the President exercises such authority, Congress cannot act on, and courts cannot examine, the President's actions. It follows that an Act of Congress--either a specific one targeted at the President or a generally applicable one--may not criminalize the President's actions within his exclusive constitutional power."

That effectively erases the first so-called "impeachment" of Trump, since that involved Democrats claiming that Trump should be impeached for contacting a foreign government (plenipotentiary diplomatic authority) to assist in the criminal investigation being carried out in the US (enforcement of all laws). The fact that these exclusive powers are Constitutional in nature put them beyond any reach of Congressional investigation. (Clinton was impeached not for carrying out his required duties, but for lying under oath in an investigation of his acts prior to becoming President and obstructing justice, using his authority in an illegal fashion.)

Posted by: Drumwaster at July 01, 2024 01:37 PM (uqpWt)

362 If you wear a sombrero, knife fights can be culturally enriching.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 01:30 PM (qZEuM)

And Colombian neckties are a serious statement about proper comportment and loyalty.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2024 01:37 PM (D7oie)

363 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 01, 2024 01:37 PM (u73oe)

364 Breitbart: 17-Year-Old Chinese Badminton Player Suffers Cardiac Arrest, Dies During Match

https://tinyurl.com/35s27x86

Playing with your shuttlecock all day is bad, mmmkay?

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 01:37 PM (z8fpR)

365 Jail is for people awaiting trial or people convicted of low-level offenses that have short sentences.
Prison is usually for felony convictions or sentences over a certain length of time.

Posted by: Iasonas at July 01, 2024 01:38 PM (2O9Sc)

366 298 291 I cannot even imagine what inducement they could offer. He holds the highest office in the land, he's dying, he doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but himself, and he can pardon everyone in his family (for federal crimes anyway) and lefties are unlikely to go after them since it would lessen loyalty among the street soldiers hoping to become a capo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 01:21 PM (T7iTv)

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Also.

In five weeks, when he's the official nominee after the zoom call to meet the Ohio deadline, it all goes away and everyone backs him again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

If you thought you saw the ultimate in Basement Campaigning by Joe in 2020, you ain't seen nothing yet!

(As best I can tell, Joe has NO foreign trips scheduled between now and the election. So that flank is already covered.)

Posted by: Gref at July 01, 2024 01:38 PM (5fDan)

367 Too many experts. Too many experts claiming their opinion and only their opinion is the correct one.

Quit it.

Posted by: Outside of Life at July 01, 2024 01:39 PM (89Sog)

368 >>> 351 I'm trying to sort through my mind thoughts.

Heh. I suspect many here don't remember the origin of that phrase. IIRC, it was some soldier who waxed on about his deep thoughts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 01, 2024

***
Sounds like something out of Dune, or its parody Doon.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 01:35 PM (J2vNu)

istr "mind thoughts" being part of a twatter post from that sooper geneus Chelsea Webb Clinton.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2024 01:39 PM (llON8)

369 Do you ever wonder if the left, in their hidden moments, wail and despair "how is Trump surviving all this?"

Or are they addicted gamblers tossing their car and house keys on the table, sure they will beat the mob this time?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 01:41 PM (KKOmD)

370 I am swimming in a pool filled with Liz Cheney and Adam Crybabys tears right now.

Ahhh, that feels good.

Take that up the squeakhole you traitorous fuckers.

Posted by: mpfs, Jooish Spy Dolphin reporting for duty at July 01, 2024 01:41 PM (c4NPH)

371 It is hard to see how it is a crime for a President to ask for a hearing on election fraud. That being said, the President has a duty to make sure laws are faithfully executed. There are a myriad of federal voting laws. Ensuring valid Presidential elections is within his duties. Note ACB did not say that President Trump asked the AZ legislature to commit election fraud.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 01:41 PM (sX1BW)

372 >"There has been a more judicious deployment of the flaming skull as of late.

But I suspect that is going to change as we get closer to the election."
Posted by: Just reporting

>>"Ace is a sober and adult blogger who eschews hyperbole."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

If I were to predict, I'd say the next use of the flaming skull will be on July 11 when Trump is scheduled to be sentenced.

Unless World War III breaks out before that.

Posted by: Just reporting at July 01, 2024 01:41 PM (scll+)

373 Hysterical bitches: This "Hill staffer" says she feels, get this, unsafe.

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Too bad she wasn't living in downtown Minneapalestine on the inaugural 2020 night of mostly peaceful Love, Burning, Looting, and Murdering.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 01, 2024 01:42 PM (qCacp)

374 Since the "laws" that Trump was convicted of violating are actually misdemeanors, and have no felony level punishment enhancements written in the statutes, what is the statutory punishment that can be applied to him?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:43 PM (CecP5)

375 There really are no serious people on the left. Some are seriously sociopathic or worse; but none have adult-level reasoning power.

Posted by: setnaffa at July 01, 2024 01:44 PM (nOVGb)

376
I am swimming in a pool filled with Liz Cheney and Adam Crybabys tears right now.

Steve Bannon went into prison today, those are tears of joy. Priest blessed him and offered to come visit at any time.

Steve Bannon is good people.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2024 01:45 PM (RKVpM)

377 Do you ever wonder if the left, in their hidden moments, wail and despair "how is Trump surviving all this?"

Or are they addicted gamblers tossing their car and house keys on the table, sure they will beat the mob this time?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 01:41 PM (KKOmD)

----------------

Psychopaths are death cultists with a perverse, nihilistic and distorted sense of reality with no concept of the damage & destruction they can wrought -- eventually to themselves and their own. They make the genocides happen.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 01, 2024 01:47 PM (qCacp)

378 Since the "laws" that Trump was convicted of violating are actually misdemeanors, and have no felony level punishment enhancements written in the statutes, what is the statutory punishment that can be applied to him?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:43 PM (CecP5)

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And the statute of limitations on those misdemeanors had expired.

But we live in a post post post post post post-Constitutional country now ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 01, 2024 01:49 PM (qCacp)

379 Steph needs to file a disability claim.

Posted by: pawn at July 01, 2024 01:52 PM (QB+5g)

380 Also since the NY Trial judge didn't require the jury to specify what the second crime Trump committed was, no potential sentence for any of those crimes can be applied either.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 01:58 PM (CecP5)

381 Monday now is being renamed

“Trump Day”

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 01, 2024 02:17 PM (MwHgU)

382 "They will put Trump in jail and plan for massive unrest from the supporters to use to invoke the Insurrection Act and cancel the election."

FTFY.

Posted by: SDN at July 01, 2024 02:18 PM (2gqBa)

383 Clinton(Bill)seems to be immune and Obama to wahy cant Trump be Immune can it because he is a Republican not a Privalaged Democrat

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 01, 2024 05:27 PM (wGqjj)

384 Am I wrong in seeing this as a big win for Biden? The Supreme Court just said that Trump can't do to Biden what Biden did to Trump. That should be a great relief for the Big Guy, no?

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