Mid-Morning Art Thread

Red Sea
Marianne North

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 cool

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 09:30 AM (ENQN6)

2 Dome in 1 minutes

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 09:30 AM (hnSZX)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Pink.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

5 I like it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 09:30 AM (IyPmt)

6 Dull.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 09:31 AM (1bNHn)

7 A glitch in the force.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

8 Red sky at night; sailor's delight.
Red sky in morning, you're screwed.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 09:31 AM (PrOMo)

9 No dogs.

No boobs.

Not art.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

10 My wife painted a piece almost exactly like that.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 09:32 AM (AwYPR)

11 Looks like it was done by some View-watching, Facebooking AWFL who took a 6-week art class at the community center after yoga.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 01, 2024 09:32 AM (sJHOI)

12 Red sky at night; sailor's delight.
Red sky in morning, you're screwed.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 01, 2024 09:31 AM (PrOMo)

You asked for it.......

https://youtu.be/cit17Si-Vts

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:32 AM (Zz0t1)

13 Mos def would hang!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at July 01, 2024 09:32 AM (hOUT3)

14 Looks like it was done by some View-watching, Facebooking AWFL who took a 6-week art class at the community center after yoga.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

Couldn't have described it better myself.

$.25 at the garage sale.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 01, 2024 09:33 AM (WXNFJ)

15 My wife painted a piece almost exactly like that.
Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 09:32 AM (AwYPR)

Can she sell it for $200k? If not, she sucks.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at July 01, 2024 09:33 AM (Zz0t1)

16 Looks like it was done by some View-watching, Facebooking AWFL who took a 6-week art class at the community center after yoga.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 01, 2024 09:32 AM (sJHOI)

Bob Ross episode...srsly.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 09:34 AM (AwYPR)

17 This painting feels like a rapidly completed homework assignment by a student who spent all her time drinking instead of studying.

Posted by: Gentlewoman's C at July 01, 2024 09:34 AM (ohEAP)

18 She painted over 800 paintings.

My guess this is of the Red Sea.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 09:35 AM (ENQN6)

19 I predict a bright future for her in dentists' office decorating.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:35 AM (ZdexC)

20 Can she sell it for $200k? If not, she sucks.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at July 01, 2024 09:33 AM (Zz0t1)

She doesn't have friends like yours.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 09:35 AM (AwYPR)

21 Hmmm. I usually like seascapes. But this one is just...boring.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (v6JzV)

22 Art in the lobby of the dentist's waiting room.

Posted by: dantesed at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (Oy/m2)

23 Reminds me of sunrise over the Atlantic ocean.
Lovely.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (+oRno)

24 If you turn it upside down it looks like a meteor entering the atmosphere. Would hang though

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (NMNWr)

25 She painted over 800 paintings.

My guess this is of the Red Sea.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 09:35 AM (ENQN6)

No vag.

No art.

Posted by: Georgia O'Keeffe at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

26 Also, too pastely.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (v6JzV)

27 Too boring even to plaster on the side of my "Free Candy" van. Needs a wolf, or at least a pelican.

Posted by: Uncle Pervy at July 01, 2024 09:36 AM (V5BDR)

28 >>Looks like it was done by some View-watching, Facebooking AWFL who took a 6-week art class at the community center after yoga.

True

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2024 09:37 AM (+oRno)

29 Community College Art 101 level crap.
No wait, 7th grade art class honorable mention at an art fair level crap.
"If I can do it, it's not art."

I think that's a Rush quote.

Posted by: Reforger at July 01, 2024 09:37 AM (xcIvR)

30 Not THE Red Sea, though. I should know.

Posted by: Moses at July 01, 2024 09:37 AM (J2vNu)

31 Red sky at night; sailor's delight.
Red sky in morning, you're screwed.
Posted by: rickb223

"When the Dugaks pick their noses,
There'll be rain ere daylight closes."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:37 AM (v6JzV)

32
Looks like the Blue Charmin last time the hemorrhoids were flaring up.

Posted by: Auspex at July 01, 2024 09:37 AM (j4U/Z)

33 A view like that will frighten the cabin boys. They will need much comforting.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:37 AM (Cv/v8)

34 It's a bloodbath.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 09:38 AM (NpAcC)

35 Marianne North was also a biologist and famed botanical artist per Wikipedia. She has her own gallery at the Botanical Gardens at Kew. Anyone here been there?

Posted by: Tuna at July 01, 2024 09:38 AM (oaGWv)

36 Royal Botanical Garden Kew

More than 800 remarkable paintings cover the walls of the Marianne North Gallery.

A vivid collection of 19th century botanical art, the gallery is a treat for both art lovers and adventurous minds. As a woman who defied convention, North travelled the world solo to record the tropical and exotic plants that captivated her.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 09:38 AM (ENQN6)

37 Red sky at night; sailor's delight.
Red sky in morning, you're screwed.
Posted by: rickb223

***
Red sky at night, sailor's delight;
Red sky at morning, you're screwed before night.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 09:39 AM (J2vNu)

38 Painted in Australia .
The picture is hung upside down.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 09:39 AM (J8LnB)

39 A vivid collection of 19th century botanical art, the gallery is a treat for both art lovers and adventurous minds. As a woman who defied convention, North travelled the world solo to record the tropical and exotic plants that captivated her.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Bet she painted lots of nekkid plants' naughty bits.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:39 AM (v6JzV)

40 Needs a shark.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 01, 2024 09:39 AM (NpAcC)

41 Under that water lies the Egyptian Army and Pharoah, along with his best chariots.

Posted by: Miriam and Zipporah at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (V5BDR)

42 Kew the critics and Kew you guys too!

https://tinyurl.com/mr269b9u

Non-Wiki bio.

Biography.

Biology.

A bio-bio.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (ZdexC)

43 "Needs a shark. "

Or a dogfish, at minimum.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (a1415)

44 Tough crowd this morning. I’ve seen this work before but can’t quite remember whether it was the dentist office or the holiday inn.

Posted by: Pete Bog at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (cXGnu)

45 red sky at night
sailor's delight
sea is like glass
this painting sucks ass

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (sJHOI)

46 Needs a shark.
Posted by: redridinghood

You called?

Posted by: Israeli Ministry of Laser-Headed Sharks at July 01, 2024 09:41 AM (v6JzV)

47 I like it. Very pacific.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 09:41 AM (ZANHd)

48 >>Hmmm. I usually like seascapes. But this one is just...boring.

Yup. Here are a couple ones I like:
https://tinyurl.com/mvb7cajx
https://tinyurl.com/49bm3x3y

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2024 09:41 AM (+oRno)

49 27 Too boring even to plaster on the side of my "Free Candy" van. Needs a wolf, or at least a pelican.
Posted by: Uncle Pervy

At your service!

Posted by: Nasty aggressive evil river otter at July 01, 2024 09:41 AM (gBTzV)

50 Tough crowd this morning. I’ve seen this work before but can’t quite remember whether it was the dentist office or the holiday inn.
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (cXGnu)

Tough crowd, yet this is the "going in for the kill" comment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:41 AM (Zz0t1)

51 "Needs a shark. "

Or a dogfish, at minimum.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM

We got ill-tempered sea bass. Deal.

Posted by: Number Two at July 01, 2024 09:41 AM (ZANHd)

52 Under that water lies the Egyptian Army and Pharoah, along with his best chariots.
Posted by: Miriam and Zipporah

Nah. Yul Brynner survived.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:42 AM (v6JzV)

53 Bet she painted lots of nekkid plants' naughty bits.
--
She was a real pistil in bed, I bet!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:42 AM (ZdexC)

54 This isn't one I would hang but it's interesting. I was surprised it was painted in the 1800s since it made me think of a mid-1900s abstract. The breaks in the clouds really catch my eye.

Looking through the Marianne North Wiki page was a surprise. Compared to this subtle blending of colors, many of them are detailed botanicals and landscapes.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2024 09:42 AM (zudum)

55 I’ve seen this work before but can’t quite remember whether it was the dentist office or the holiday inn.
-----
Camp Ramada??

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:43 AM (ZdexC)

56 red sky at night
sailor's delight
sea is like glass
this painting sucks ass
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (sJHOI)

Nice poem! I LOL'd.
Now I'll attempt some poetry...

This particular piece
is a waste of paint,
with all the appeal
of a sweaty taint.

Posted by: Doof at July 01, 2024 09:43 AM (RhGG0)

57 6 Dull.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2024 09:31 AM (1bNHn)

This. Looks like something everyone paints at a coffee house Learn to Paint class.

Posted by: Artsy Fartsy at July 01, 2024 09:43 AM (vwMQp)

58 Bet she painted lots of nekkid plants' naughty bits.
--
She was a real pistil in bed, I bet!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024

***
Or, as she used to tell the guys:

"Stay, men!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 09:44 AM (J2vNu)

59 Looking through the Marianne North Wiki page was a surprise. Compared to this subtle blending of colors, many of them are detailed botanicals and landscapes.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2024 09:42 AM (zudum)

Glad it's not a self portrait.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 09:44 AM (AwYPR)

60 She was a real pistil in bed, I bet!
Posted by: andycanuck

Yep. Not many guys had the stamena to keep up with her.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:44 AM (v6JzV)

61 Welp, off to the doctor to get yelled at. Later, Peeps.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:44 AM (v6JzV)

62 red sky at night, cabin's boys take fright
red sky in morning, cabin boys heed warning

Posted by: Cap'n Ned, Maritime Comforting Enthusiast at July 01, 2024 09:45 AM (ohEAP)

63 Morning.

Very nice colors.

Not sure if would hang.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 09:45 AM (gj+NS)

64 Olden days cavemen men would paint stick figures on a cave wall then wack off.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 09:46 AM (J8LnB)

65 Hmm. Considering the hotness of the tourists, maybe we should consider a class field trip to the Royal Kew Gardens??

https://tinyurl.com/bddyassv

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:46 AM (ZdexC)

66 View-watching, Facebooking AWFL who took a 6-week art class at the community center after yoga.

Now look up who she really was. You're doin' great bubba. Try farting even harder, and you might really impress somebody.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 01, 2024 09:46 AM (zdLoL)

67 Looks like something slapped together between waking up, and the first cup of coffee.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 09:46 AM (a1415)

68 I’ve seen this work before but can’t quite remember whether it was the dentist office or the holiday inn.

Posted by: Pete Bog at July 01, 2024 09:40 AM (cXGnu)

Tough crowd!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 01, 2024 09:47 AM (d9fT1)

69
She was a real pistil in bed, I bet!
Posted by: andycanuck

Yep. Not many guys had the stamena to keep up with her.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2024 09:44 AM (v6JzV)

And she petaled her ass all over town.

Posted by: Artsy Fartsy at July 01, 2024 09:47 AM (vwMQp)

70 Yep. Not many guys had the stamena to keep up with her.
-------
She was a great pluck.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:47 AM (ZdexC)

71 Now look up who she really was. You're doin' great bubba. Try farting even harder, and you might really impress somebody.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 01, 2024 09:46 AM (zdLoL)

I'm quite sure the comment was on this particular piece and not a reflection of her entire body of work.

But hey, your hash is LoL, so there's that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:48 AM (Zz0t1)

72 https://tinyurl.com/bddyassv
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:46 AM (ZdexC)

Whatever they've put in the food supply I'm just happy that the result is bountiful breasts.

Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2024 09:48 AM (+asYF)

73 58 Bet she painted lots of nekkid plants' naughty bits.
--
She was a real pistil in bed, I bet!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024

***
Or, as she used to tell the guys:

"Stay, men!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Give me your hairy stamen NOW, baby.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:49 AM (oOc/o)

74 Tough crowd!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 01, 2024 09:47 AM (d9fT1)

Lol. I admire you even bringing art to us reprobates.

Posted by: Artsy Fartsy at July 01, 2024 09:49 AM (vwMQp)

75 Red Sea
Marianne North

Date: 1880
Style: Impressionism
Genre: marina

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 09:50 AM (RHGPo)

76 Nah. Yul Brynner survived.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Not the first and only time Hollywood told a big lie!

Posted by: Pharoah Drownded! at July 01, 2024 09:50 AM (V5BDR)

77 >>And she petaled her ass all over town.

Heard she had great stems!
And a rosy personality.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2024 09:50 AM (+oRno)

78 Her boyfriend was a real fungi.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:50 AM (ZdexC)

79 Not the first and only time Hollywood told a big lie!
Posted by: Pharoah Drownded!

Yeah!

Posted by: Fifteen Commandments, Indeed! at July 01, 2024 09:51 AM (V5BDR)

80 No; She didn't watch "The View" She was English, lived from 1830-1890 and was a biologist and botanical painter. This is rather different from her usual works, which are extremely detailed pictures of plants and flowers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 09:52 AM (oUxZc)

81 A hardy gal, she was!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2024 09:52 AM (+oRno)

82 I admire you even bringing art to us reprobates.

Posted by: Artsy Fartsy at July 01, 2024 09:49 AM (vwMQp)

I should probably just toss in the towel and post dogs playing poker. On velvet of course!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 01, 2024 09:52 AM (d9fT1)

83 A hardy gal, she was!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2024 09:52 AM (+oRno)

She deserves a laurel!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:53 AM (Zz0t1)

84 I admire you even bringing art to us reprobates.

Posted by: Artsy Fartsy at July 01, 2024 09:49 AM (vwMQp)

I should probably just toss in the towel and post dogs playing poker. On velvet of course!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

The naked lesbians in bed was pretty great.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 09:53 AM (ZRbQD)

85 I like it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 09:53 AM (LkLld)

86 But I like this too. It's restful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 09:53 AM (oUxZc)

87 At 26 years old, Marianne North visited Kew with her father on a trip that was to inspire her life-long fascination with far-flung plants and flowers.

After his death, she set off on a series of trips to some of the world’s most remote jungles and forests.

Next
As a wealthy, unmarried woman, North travelled to areas that the 'establishment' thought she should not visit – from Borneo to Japan, South Africa to South America.

Her journeys became one of the most reported subjects in the British newspapers of the period. Despite having no formal training, North’s talent gained the admiration of notable scientists, including Charles Darwin.

After thirteen years of travel, North had an idea – to exhibit the paintings in the Gardens where her passion began. In 1879, she offered to build a gallery here if Kew Director Joseph Hooker would agree to display her life’s work.

The gallery was completed in 1882 and is open to explore her legacy today.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:54 AM (ZdexC)

88 Red Horizon

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2024 09:54 AM (63Dwl)

89 Good morning. Why is the Red Sea blue? Or greyish-greenish-blue?

Posted by: Ribbed at July 01, 2024 09:54 AM (Ectld)

90 81 A hardy gal, she was!
-------
A perennial favourite.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 09:55 AM (ZdexC)

91 This is rather different from her usual works, which are extremely detailed pictures of plants and flowers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2024 09:52 AM (oUxZc)

So she has ocean of other work?

Posted by: Artsy Fartsy - I didn't start this at July 01, 2024 09:55 AM (vwMQp)

92 Needs more Houthis shooting rockets at shipping vessels. Would not hang (the painting, not the Houthis).

Posted by: PabloD at July 01, 2024 09:55 AM (n7a9G)

93 CBD,
Being on the west coast, your art thread pops up at 630 am and is my go to in the morning. It's educational and pleasant and brings a smile most mornings. And the morons are mostly somewhat kind of a little bit not misbehaving, so there's that too.

Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:56 AM (T2dxf)

94 "I should probably just toss in the towel and post dogs playing poker. On velvet of course!"

But of course.

A true classic.

By a Master.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 09:56 AM (a1415)

95 Red sky at night.
Give me a light.
Red sky at dawn,
Give me a light, asshole!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 01, 2024 09:56 AM (q7hip)

96 Good morning. Why is the Red Sea blue? Or greyish-greenish-blue?"

Turn it upside down.

Posted by: Outside of Life at July 01, 2024 09:57 AM (89Sog)

97 The clouds kind of look like beads of water sticking to the lens of a snorkeling mask from the perspective of a diver who has just surfaced to greet the sun.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 01, 2024 09:58 AM (bNf8H)

98 This entire thread is dripping with misinformation. As a native New Yorker, I know firsthand that Kew Gardens is a neighborhood in Queens.

Posted by: Sandy Becker at July 01, 2024 09:58 AM (V5BDR)

99 This is actually a painting of the Chinese rocketry static fire test site from a distance. You can just see the explosion.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 09:58 AM (T7iTv)

100 Open challenge to any climate hoaxer: We both spend the winter in Dead Horse Alaska in identical houses. I heat my house with a conventional furnace. You can use as much CO2 as you want in your house to heat it. First person to freeze to death loses.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 01, 2024 09:59 AM (CecP5)

101 Give me your hairy stamen NOW, baby.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:49 AM

Damn it, woman, that was my line!

Posted by: Zombie Robin Williams at July 01, 2024 09:59 AM (ZANHd)

102 And the morons are mostly somewhat kind of a little bit not misbehaving, so there's that too.

Thank you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:56 AM (T2dxf)

Caffeine/drugs haven't fully kicked in.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 09:59 AM (AwYPR)

103 Raskin: Dems Having ‘Serious’ Conversations at ‘Every Level’ About Biden’s Future

Various "Weekend at Bernies" scenarios being considered

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (RHGPo)

104 BREAKING: President [Jill] Biden has decided to stay in the race after a meeting with his family on Sunday.....

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (RHGPo)

105 Billionaire governor JB Pritzker considered as potential Biden replacement [ha ha] failed to deliver promised jobs to black residents: study

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (RHGPo)

106 She deserves a laurel!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 09:53 AM

And hearty handshake!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (ZANHd)

107 Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:56 AM (T2dxf)

Gees, get a room. :-) (puts on helmet)

Thank God for the ettes.

Morning nurse.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (vwMQp)

108 In 2018, a study of aerial photos of 700 Pacific Islands showed that 89% were the same size or growing. This rather destroyed the idea that sea levels were swallowing small nations. The New York Times said nothing. Indeed, the only Pacific things shrinking were deserted sand drifts. No islands bigger than 10 hectares were getting smaller. Measured in square kilometers that’s “0.1”. Despite the media headlines and delegations from Kiribati and Tuvulu begging for money to hold back the tide, no islands with people living on them were shrinking. None, not one island in the Pacific big enough to matter, was disappearing.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (RHGPo)

109 The gallery is a celebration of nature, and a snapshot into the world of a Victorian globe trotter.
------
Not ain't misbehaving, nurse, but Sweet Georgia Brown.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:01 AM (ZdexC)

110 "Raskin: Dems Having ‘Serious’ Conversations at ‘Every Level’ About Biden’s Future "

Jamie Raskin will lie to your face on any topic, including the time of day.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 10:01 AM (a1415)

111 110 "Raskin: Dems Having ‘Serious’ Conversations at ‘Every Level’ About Biden’s Future "

And all of them begin with "We're f**ked...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:02 AM (IyPmt)

112
Insipid

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at July 01, 2024 10:02 AM (xG4kz)

113 Cannibal Bob!!!!

Hi love! Miss you. Hugs to Heidi.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 10:03 AM (Ut3xp)

114 Corner Post, Inc. v. Board of Governors
is only new SCOTUS opinion

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:03 AM (6dm1P)

115 Marianne North's only sibling, her sister Janet, was North's biographer. She herself was married John Addington Symonds, a Victorian era poet famous for advocating man-boy love. Complicated family.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (iIRco)

116 Andycanuck!
Missed you in the GT yesterday. You got a hot date?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (Ut3xp)

117 114 Corner Post, Inc. v. Board of Governors
is only new SCOTUS opinion
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:03 AM (6dm1P)

No Immunity ruling ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (IyPmt)

118 Mariannè was a star student.

-Bob Ross

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It! /George Carlins Pencil at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (o3Uyl)

119 Not saying that Joe is in bad shape, but in a different culture, he would be wrapped in a blanket and drifting out to sea on an ice floe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (a1415)

120 Doctor offices have better art.

Posted by: look whats not at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (nakGR)

121 Gordon Lightfoot has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (qZEuM)

122 Art.

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (ytSiK)

123 114 Corner Post, Inc. v. Board of Governors
is only new SCOTUS opinion
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:03 AM (6dm1P)

Justice Barrett started her announcement with a joke about how this case was not one that we were here to hear.

More to come......

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (N39Ws)

124 Another loss for the administrative state.

@bykatiebuehler

BREAKING: A 6-3 Supreme Court says a 6-year deadline to challenge federal agency rules is based on when a company becomes affected by the rule, not when it is issued. Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson dissent.
(Corner Post v. Federal Reserve, No. 22-100

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (LkLld)

125 Past 100 comments so here goes.

For the ham radio folks. Starting tomorrow, I believe, there is the 13 colonies events trying to make contacts with operators in the original colonies. Info is available at 13colonies dot us. I think that includes a log sheet.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (zudum)

126 Hi love! Miss you. Hugs to Heidi.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 10:03 AM (Ut3xp)

Thanks doll. Miss you too! Some day another meeting.

Heidi right here. Sends love!~

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (vwMQp)

127 Summing up: Marianne North was a talented painter, but it's not evident in this selection. If it looks like something I could remotely even come close to copying, it's not good art.

Posted by: Cretin Hop Sing at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (V5BDR)

128 124 Another loss for the administrative state.

@bykatiebuehler

BREAKING: A 6-3 Supreme Court says a 6-year deadline to challenge federal agency rules is based on when a company becomes affected by the rule, not when it is issued. Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson dissent.
(Corner Post v. Federal Reserve, No. 22-100
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (LkLld)

=======

"The people have no recourse from damage done to them by the government if they take too long to complain or get hurt."
-the party of the little guy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:06 AM (GBKbO)

129 The sea was bored, and experiencing ennui that day, my friends.

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at July 01, 2024 10:06 AM (UdzhC)

130 Marianne North's only sibling, her sister Janet, was North's biographer. She herself was married John Addington Symonds, a Victorian era poet famous for advocating man-boy love. Complicated family.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Also, Peter's great grandmother.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:06 AM (qZEuM)

131 "Raskin: Dems Having ‘Serious’ Conversations at ‘Every Level’ About Biden’s Future "

If only there were some mechanism a political party could use to have a lengthy conversation about their prospective nominee. Something which would test their stamina and mettle. A way for voters to chime in on their preferences.

Someone should look into that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 10:07 AM (T7iTv)

132 BREAKING: A 6-3 Supreme Court says a 6-year deadline to challenge federal agency rules is based on when a company becomes affected by the rule, not when it is issued. Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson dissent.
(Corner Post v. Federal Reserve, No. 22-100
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (LkLld)
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Another broadside into the administrative state.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:08 AM (G0vdT)

133 If you turn it upside down it looks like a meteor entering the atmosphere. Would hang though
Posted by: Smell the Glove

But, which way would you hang it?

Posted by: mindful webworker's similar digital art at July 01, 2024 10:08 AM (IvOTC)

134 Meh. It's no Rothko!

Hey, on second thought, maybe it is!

Posted by: Nosmo King at July 01, 2024 10:09 AM (uCfKO)

135 Well, it's pretty.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 01, 2024 10:10 AM (JtA2+)

136 135 Well, it's pretty.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 01, 2024 10:10 AM (JtA2+)

That's what I thought

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:11 AM (IyPmt)

137 And the morons are mostly somewhat kind of a little bit not misbehaving, so there's that too.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 09:56 AM

Name one moron who's misbehaves. Can't be done. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (UdzhC)

138 119 Not saying that Joe is in bad shape, but in a different culture, he would be wrapped in a blanket and drifting out to sea on an ice floe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (a1415)

Huh....

*considers*

Sticks with plans for a Viking Funeral.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (vwMQp)

139 My kid is deployed to Djibouti. That looks like the pictures she sends of the coast near them.

Posted by: Cosda at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (kGFCL)

140 105 Billionaire governor JB Pritzker considered as potential Biden replacement [ha ha] failed to deliver promised jobs to black residents: study

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:00 AM (RHGPo)

Can he make it up Air Force One's short stairs? Without assistance? If he somehow gets up the stairs will he fit through the hatch? If elected POTUS he should play the victim. Use a wheelchair all the time in public, getting his quack doctors to issue a letter stating he has a very rare disease that makes his knees and ankles almost completely useless.

Posted by: Gref at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (5fDan)

141 Stolen from SCOTUSBLOG:

Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (N39Ws)

142 Oh, the liberal tears.

Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (G0vdT)

143 Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (N39Ws)

Isn't that the point?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:13 AM (Zz0t1)

144 But, which way would you hang it?

Posted by: mindful webworker's similar digital art at July 01, 2024 10:08 AM (IvOTC)

Would look better vertical but then all the water would flow out.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2024 10:13 AM (vwMQp)

145 Missed you in the GT yesterday. You got a hot date?
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No; having dinner and playing a proprietary card game [Five Crowns] at my LIV SIL and brother's with our aged LIV cousin.

All upset at Biden's performance, including my brother who had to turn off the debate partway through because he couldn't take it any more. LOL.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:13 AM (ZdexC)

146 Justice Jackson with a very (unintentionally) optimistic dissent:

"At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 10:14 AM (AzEXR)

147 Isn't that the point?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:13 AM (Zz0t1)
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It is and they don't like it one bit.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:14 AM (G0vdT)

148 >>Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

Excellent. All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:14 AM (LkLld)

149 141 Stolen from SCOTUSBLOG:

Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (N39Ws)

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Um...good?

Maybe the federal government does too much, ya know?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

150 Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."
Posted by: WisRich

Fantastic news.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:15 AM (qZEuM)

151 139 My kid is deployed to Djibouti. That looks like the pictures she sends of the coast near them.
Posted by: Cosda at

Prayers for your kiddo and her team.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 10:15 AM (g+HUj)

152
Excellent. All is proceeding as I have foreseen.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:14 AM (LkLld)

Seems you channeled your inner Zod there.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:15 AM (Zz0t1)

153 145 All upset at Biden's performance, including my brother who had to turn off the debate partway through because he couldn't take it any more. LOL.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:13 AM (ZdexC)

=========

"How could you turn it off? Biden was great! He really showed Trump for the liar he is! I was a Trump voter until Biden said that Trump lied."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

154 Excellent. All is proceeding as I have foreseen.
Posted by: JackStraw

Are you wearing a black robe right now?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:16 AM (qZEuM)

155 139 My kid is deployed to Djibouti. That looks like the pictures she sends of the coast near them.
Posted by: Cosda

Does she ever get to phone you? Would that be a Djibouti Call?

Posted by: Long Distance Rates Still Apply at July 01, 2024 10:16 AM (V5BDR)

156 >>Are you wearing a black robe right now?

Now? Always. Sometimes only metaphorically but always.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (LkLld)

157 c
Does she ever get to phone you? Would that be a Djibouti Call?
Posted by: Long Distance Rates Still Apply at July 01, 2024 10:16 AM (V5BDR)

Have they met Sheik Yerbouti?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

158 Name one moron who's misbehaves. Can't be done. Wouldn't be prudent.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 01, 2024 10:12 AM (UdzhC)

There are suspicions that one of us is a spy for Big Penguin.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (T7iTv)

159 ... has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal government.

I'd like to think that Justice Jackson is cheering, but I suppose she's actually bemoaning.

Posted by: Philip at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (fwIBJ)

160 Fux News says the immunity case ruling is also due the morning.

Biden campaign claims they "raised" $33-million plus since the debate.

It'd be a hoot if they do replace Joe and none of the funds raised "by" him can be used for any other campaign!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (ZdexC)

161 Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

... file under "collapse under own weight"

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:18 AM (RHGPo)

162 160 Fux News says the immunity case ruling is also due the morning.

Biden campaign claims they "raised" $33-million plus since the debate.

It'd be a hoot if they do replace Joe and none of the funds raised "by" him can be used for any other campaign!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (ZdexC)

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Until I hear what Trump raised, Biden's numbers are meaningless.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

163
Biden campaign claims they "raised" $33-million plus since the debate.

Sure... From two fundraisers .

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:18 AM (IyPmt)

164 Boring.
Her botanical paintings are quite good but this is crap.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (bFId9)

165 Prayers for your kiddo and her team.
Posted by: nurse ratched
***********
Thank you, Nurse. Coincidently, my daughter is also a nurse both in civilian life and as a National Guard officer.

Posted by: Cosda at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (kGFCL)

166 Wow. Channel 4 in the UK hired an actor to pretend to be a canvasser for Farage's Reform UK party, and had him make racist statements for the camera. They then reported these statements as fact.

Reform UK has now brought suit against Channel 4 for election interference.

Be prepared for anything for the next 4 months.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (lTGtQ)

167 Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson biotchslap

The Board and the dissent vastly overread—in fact, they
misread—Crown Coat. The Court did not suggest that the same words “right of action first accrues” in a single statute should mean different things in different contexts—which is how the Board and the dissent would have us interpret §2401(a). Rather, the Court made its observation in the course of distinguishing §2401(a) from a statutory scheme that departed from the traditional accrual rule.7 386 U. S., at 516–517. Moreover, as we have already explained, the
Court interpreted §2401(a)—the very statute at issue in
this case—to start the clock when the plaintiff is “legally
entitled” to file suit. Id., at 515. It also specifically rejected the Government’s position that the time can run even before a plaintiff ’s “civil action against the United States matures.”

They argued the clock starts...NOW. But wait, what races are we running and where is the racetrack.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (ENQN6)

168 ESPN has chosen 'Prince' Harry to receive the Pat Tillman Award.

Pat Tillman's mom is not too happy about it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (Zz0t1)

169 Biden campaign claims they "raised" $33-million plus since the debate.

It'd be a hoot if they do replace Joe and none of the funds raised "by" him can be used for any other campaign!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (ZdexC)
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It's actually a veiled threat. The Bidens have said non of their campaign money will go to a "new candidate".

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (G0vdT)

170 >>Biden campaign claims they "raised" $33-million plus since the debate.

How much of that came funneled through Act Blue?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (LkLld)

171 >>Are you wearing a black robe right now?

Now? Always. Sometimes only metaphorically but always.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:17 AM (LkLld)

I hope you are metaphorically wearing underwear under your robe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (vwMQp)

172 BREAKING: A 6-3 Supreme Court says a 6-year deadline to challenge federal agency rules is based on when a company becomes affected by the rule, not when it is issued. Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson dissent.
(Corner Post v. Federal Reserve, No. 22-100
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (LkLld)

Very good. Otherwise, the Deep State could have just not enforced the rule for 6 years and then no one would have any recourse *ever*. Somehow, I doubt that arrangement was a mistake in the writing.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (XjtdB)

173 If the Supreme Court's vote about immunity goes in Trump's favor, I will need ear plugs to drown out the screaming.

That is something I am willing to endure.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 01, 2024 10:20 AM (/8Il0)

174 Until I hear what Trump raised, Biden's numbers are meaningless.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

Last I heard it was around 10 million in less than 24 hours... And unlike Joe it was from the folks not Hollywood fundraisers

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:20 AM (IyPmt)

175 161 Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

... file under "collapse under own weight"
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:18 AM (RHGPo)

Now do finding almost 2000 J6ers that might have been in DC.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 10:20 AM (ENQN6)

176 Looks like a perfect home for the Israeli people! Thos should not be taken as a threat against them, either!

Posted by: Totally not antisemitic, peace-loving Hamas at July 01, 2024 10:20 AM (JCZqz)

177 "I watched the debate, and I thought Biden did a terrible job, and I was miserable. But then Rachel Maddow said he actually did great! My Biden vote is secure."

--Typical brain dead Democrat.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 01, 2024 10:20 AM (JtA2+)

178 Not saying that Joe is in bad shape, but in a different culture, he would be wrapped in a blanket and drifting out to sea on an ice floe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 10:04 AM (a1415)

Why waste a blanket?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 01, 2024 10:21 AM (XjtdB)

179 177 "I watched the debate, and I thought Biden did a terrible job, and I was miserable. But then Rachel Maddow said he actually did great! My Biden vote is secure."

--Typical brain dead Democrat.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 01, 2024 10:20 AM (JtA2+)

=========

"I knew in 2020 that I was voting for a machine, for a party, not a man. The man doesn't matter, only the party. Why would 2024 be any different? Also, you can't vote for Trump because he's a bad man."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:21 AM (GBKbO)

180 Why waste a blanket?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 01, 2024 10:21 AM (XjtdB)

THat's the first thing I thought LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:22 AM (IyPmt)

181 Sure... From two fundraisers .
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That's why I used the "raised"

because I'm sure it was big corporate and rich-guys cutting cheques and not 100s of 1000s of small donors as for PDT after the arrest if the figure is even true.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:22 AM (ZdexC)

182 North seems like she did great botanical records, then for whatever reason tried to juice up the presentation by including background landscapes, not sure why, maybe to 'give context' to the main subject?
Problem here is, without the plants, which she was undeniably good at, her landscape work is amateurish at best. It doesn't look like an AWFL art class, it looks like a retired church secretary bought a Walter T. Foster book at the Salvation Army.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 01, 2024 10:23 AM (bFId9)

183 Justice Jackson in her conclusion: "At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

[ SeinfeldVoice ]
That's a shame.
[ /SeinfeldVoice ]

Posted by: Oddbob at July 01, 2024 10:24 AM (/y8xj)

184 I'm on the verge of starting a John Landis run, and this morning, I see this:

https://x.com/cambregabriel19/status/1807736357327913190

I mean, I knew that Landis was most likely culpable (though the courts said not legally) for the deaths of three people on the set of the Twilight Zone movie, but holy crap...he seems insane. His son, Max, makes so much more sense now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (GBKbO)

185 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Sunrise? Sunset? Swiftly flow the years.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (W/lyH)

186 ”The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

Barack Obama hardest hit. By Big Mike.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (c+OJ/)

187 Does anybody have a good list of what the Democrats (and MSM) are claiming are Trump lies in the debate.

I've seen references to MSM and others grumbling about a huge number.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (RHGPo)

188 Let’s just stop that in case.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 10:26 AM (c+OJ/)

189 It doesn't look like an AWFL art class, it looks like a retired church secretary bought a Walter T. Foster book at the Salvation Army.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 01, 2024 10:23 AM (bFId9)

LOL. Perfect 'gives with one hand'...'picks up a hammer with the other'. Nicely done!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2024 10:26 AM (vwMQp)

190 That's why I used the "raised" because I'm sure it was big corporate and rich-guys cutting cheques and not 100s of 1000s of small donors as for PDT after the arrest if the figure is even true.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:22 AM (ZdexC)

Actblue is a real scam. Once Mrs Ida Jones sends her 25 buck she becomes a mule. Then they write code to take 10 to 20 million in illegal donations and distribute it across thousands of Idas. It is how Obama got millions from Arab states.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2024 10:26 AM (ENQN6)

191 Dems can't get past JAN 6. They have been programmed to believe it was the darkest day in American history and the capital was at risk of burning to the ground. No amount of fact producing will get them to even consider differently.

They will never vote for Trump. And that's probably 40% of the population.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 01, 2024 10:27 AM (nm+1f)

192 ESPN has chosen 'Prince' Harry to receive the Pat Tillman Award.

Pat Tillman's mom is not too happy about it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:19 AM (Zz0t1)

Espn continues it's slide into irrelevancy.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 10:27 AM (AwYPR)

193 Does anybody have a good list of what the Democrats (and MSM) are claiming are Trump lies in the debate.

I've seen references to MSM and others grumbling about a huge number.

Posted by: SMOD

If they listed them, people would laugh. Better to just repeat that there were a lot of lies.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 01, 2024 10:27 AM (lTGtQ)

194 the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."

Throw more sand in the gears!!

Posted by: Goodbury and Graves, Ltd. at July 01, 2024 10:28 AM (V5BDR)

195 Donna Brazille is already waving the race flag.

I keep saying, there is only one replacement for Joe: Kamala
1) they lose 20%-40%+ of black women. They'll stay home. "Pass us over, we'll pass on you."
2) they lose the donated funds. Yes they have unlimited funds when they need them. But, that takes time. And asking those who already maxed out their usual this cycle to double down on a candidate that none of them chose and has no national network of kickbacks? No matter who they choose, some vital faction is going to be massively offended and pissed.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:28 AM (9IRPR)

196 Does anybody have a good list of what the Democrats (and MSM) are claiming are Trump lies in the debate

CNN had a list of 50 alleged lies before the debate, which I assume is what the DNC sent around. It included things like “Trump said the cocaine in the White House had a street value of hundreds of thousands and it’s more like 1 or 2 thousand”.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 10:28 AM (c+OJ/)

197 Justice Jackson with a very (unintentionally) optimistic dissent:

"At the end of a momentous Term, this much is clear: The tsunami of lawsuits against agencies that the Court's holdings in this case and Loper Bright have authorized has the potential to devastate the functioning of the Federal Government."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024

***
Come on! I just took a little blue pill -- what more do you want!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 10:28 AM (J2vNu)

198 Very nice. Would hang without hesitation.

The artist has a beautiful body of work. Thank you.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 10:29 AM (NFX2v)

199 195 2) they lose the donated funds. Yes they have unlimited funds when they need them. But, that takes time. And asking those who already maxed out their usual this cycle to double down on a candidate that none of them chose and has no national network of kickbacks? No matter who they choose, some vital faction is going to be massively offended and pissed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:28 AM (9IRPR)

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Knife fight at the top in the middle of the general election, out in public.

Fun. I mean, I'm not rooting against it, but it's not going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:29 AM (GBKbO)

200 They argued the clock starts...NOW. But wait, what races are we running and where is the racetrack.

Posted by: rhennigantx

They wanted it to be either "too early for standing" or "too late for action".

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 01, 2024 10:29 AM (OUMaO)

201 195 Donna Brazille is already waving the race flag.

I keep saying, there is only one replacement for Joe: Kamala
1) they lose 20%-40%+ of black women. They'll stay home. "Pass us over, we'll pass on you."
2) they lose the donated funds. Yes they have unlimited funds when they need them. But, that takes time. And asking those who already maxed out their usual this cycle to double down on a candidate that none of them chose and has no national network of kickbacks? No matter who they choose, some vital faction is going to be massively offended and pissed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:28 AM (9IRPR)
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We all knew that was coming.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:29 AM (G0vdT)

202 And asking those who already maxed out their usual this cycle to double down on a candidate that none of them chose and has no national network of kickbacks? No matter who they choose, some vital faction is going to be massively offended and pissed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Gift cards!

Posted by: Fettermonster and Lump at July 01, 2024 10:29 AM (qZEuM)

203 Also on the lie list: “Trump said cocaine was in the White House last month. It was actually a year ago”.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 01, 2024 10:29 AM (c+OJ/)

204 John Landis can be summed up in two words: Animal House.

I suppose some people might throw in The Blues Brothers.

Next!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (JtA2+)

205 Wow. Channel 4 in the UK hired an actor to pretend to be a canvasser for Farage's Reform UK party, and had him make racist statements for the camera. They then reported these statements as fact.

Reform UK has now brought suit against Channel 4 for election interference.

Be prepared for anything for the next 4 months.
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ITV News Politics @ITVNewsPolitics
‘I promise you - this guy is a set up’

Nigel Farage tells ITV's Loose Women the Reform campaigner who used racist slurs isn't a real activist

Andrew Parker has confirmed he is a part-time actor, but separately campaigned for Reform

https://tinyurl.com/k45uteav
1:54 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (ZdexC)

206 Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature
of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity
from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no
immunity for unofficial acts.
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The left can now begin wailing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (+UMhJ)

207 So far immunity decision is looking good. Need more details.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (G0vdT)

208 201 195 Donna Brazille is already waving the race flag.

I keep saying, there is only one replacement for Joe: Kamala
1) they lose 20%-40%+ of black women. They'll stay home. "Pass us over, we'll pass on you."

LOL... VP's are important...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (IyPmt)

209 SCOTUS: Immunity Ruling. President has immunity from prosecution for official acts. Devil is in the details.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (ZRbQD)

210 Trump immunity decision is in!!!

The court holds that a former president has absolute immunity for his core constitutional powers.

6-3.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (N39Ws)

211 I want to report a burglary at the Super 8 motel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (m6YJY)

212 Former presidents are also entitled to at least a presumption of immunity for their official acts.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:31 AM (N39Ws)

213 209 SCOTUS: Immunity Ruling. President has immunity from prosecution for official acts. Devil is in the details.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:30 AM (ZRbQD)

=======

Dissent is Sotomayor, Jackson, and Kagan.

So, it's probably decent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:31 AM (GBKbO)

214 There is no
immunity for unofficial acts.

That part is vague

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:31 AM (IyPmt)

215 There is no immunity, the court holds, for unofficial acts.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:31 AM (N39Ws)

216 Here comes the screeching.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (qZEuM)

217 Which Marxism is controlling America?
European Marxism?
American?
Chinese?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (J8LnB)

218 Immunity ruling. Official acts are immune. Others questionable

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (NMNWr)

219 I want to report a burglary at the Super 8 motel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

The line forms outside the office. Bring water and a sun hat.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (ZRbQD)

220 218 Immunity ruling. Official acts are immune. Others questionable
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (NMNWr)

Like I thought.. Limited immunity

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (IyPmt)

221 More great rulings from the SC!!

Posted by: Winning! at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (V5BDR)

222 The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Donald Trump -- immune for his official acts. CJ Roberts writing. Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh joining all. Barrett joining all but one part of the majority opinion.

The three liberal justices dissented.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (3ImbR)

223 "Why waste a blanket?"

Old ways are best ways.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (a1415)

224 My first impression is that the case will now be bogged down in litigation over what is and what isn't an official act.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (xPl2J)

225 184 I'm on the verge of starting a John Landis run, and this morning, I see this:

https://x.com/cambregabriel19/status/1807736357327913190

I mean, I knew that Landis was most likely culpable (though the courts said not legally) for the deaths of three people on the set of the Twilight Zone movie, but holy crap...he seems insane. His son, Max, makes so much more sense now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (GBKbO)

I know little about him.

Those twitter takes strike me as being business as usual for twitter though. Maybe he's a monster. But there are other possibilities for his poor funeral behavior: guilty conscience, trying to hide from God by giving the death some meaning. Still crazy? Yes. But a different kind of crazy maybe.

Twitter always makes me a little skeptical because it's a platform filled with experts on everything who are morally beyond reproach who understand what irredeemable sinners everyone else is.

Posted by: Even they agree he was hysterical (thus maybe not in his right mind) at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (ohEAP)

226 It should now go back to the court where the leftist judge will side with leftist experts in finding nothing was official. Rinse repeat

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (NMNWr)

227 Like I thought.. Limited immunity
Posted by: It's me donna

If it wasn't limited you would get a dictator. Or Joe Biden.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (ZRbQD)

228 Dissent is Sotomayor, Jackson, and Kagan.
So, it's probably decent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:31 AM (GBKbO)
~~~~~

Thomas wrote a Concurrence, so yeah.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (3ImbR)

229 Fux News says court rules PDT immune from criminal prosecution!

I can hardly wait until he orders the SEALs to start shooting Dems and RINOs now that he can do anything!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (ZdexC)

230 I have racked my brain to explain Biden's low approval ratings and came to a conclusion. Even in a country as deluded by social media babble as this one, you simply couldn't get an economy humming this well and be this unpopular. It just isn't possible. My conclusion is that polling is critically flawed.

The economy, as a whole, is not the basis on which people living paycheck to paycheck make their decisions. Paychecks have not gone up as quickly as groceries and rent. When people's paychecks aren't covering the bills anymore, how healthy the stock market is for other people's money is just not relevant.

We have to find a way to address that reality - rather than acting puzzled that people who aren't making ends meet can't see the bigger picture.

This economy is historically good. Carter is the only incumbent to lose with positive GDP growth.

Too many citizens are helping to make these polling results with a lack of accurate information or knowledge of about how the economy works. Basically, in America, if you don't like something, "blame the President!"

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (JCZqz)

231 If it wasn't limited you would get a dictator. Or Joe Biden.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:33 AM (ZRbQD)

True

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (IyPmt)

232 The court explains that it does not need to decide in this case whether immunity for official acts is presumptive or absolute.
21

The court in Part III of its opinion indicates that in this case "no court has thus far considered how" to distinguish between official and unofficial acts.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (G0vdT)

233 I'm on the verge of starting a John Landis run...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (GBKbO)

If you let him know, maybe he'll see you next Wednesday

Posted by: Doof at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (RhGG0)

234 I have racked my brain to explain Biden's low approval ratings and came to a conclusion. Even in a country as deluded by social media babble as this one, you simply couldn't get an economy humming this well and be this unpopular. It just isn't possible. My conclusion is that polling is critically flawed.

This mental defective is priceless.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:35 AM (qZEuM)

235 Reminds me of Lawrence of Arabia beginning, the sea is a mirage

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2024 10:35 AM (hnSZX)

236 This economy is historically good. Carter is the only incumbent to lose with positive GDP growth.

LOL... What a whopper

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:35 AM (IyPmt)

237 From SCOTUSblog:
The court in Part III of its opinion indicates that in this case "no court has thus far considered how" to distinguish between official and unofficial acts.

This will be back at SCOTUS.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:35 AM (xPl2J)

238 The core constitutional powers are things like appointing ambassadors and foreign governments.
The court explains that it does not need to decide in this case whether immunity for official acts is presumptive or absolute.
The court in Part III of its opinion indicates that in this case "no court has thus far considered how" to distinguish between official and unofficial acts.
Moreover, Roberts continues, "the lower courts rendered their decisions on a highly expedited basis" and "did not analyze the conduct alleged in the indictment to decide which of it should be categorized as official and which unofficial" -- and it wasn't briefed before the Supreme Court.
So the Supreme Court isn't going to make that determination now. Instead, it will send the case back to the lower courts for further proceedings, although it does offer some guidance.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:36 AM (N39Ws)

239 237 From SCOTUSblog:
The court in Part III of its opinion indicates that in this case "no court has thus far considered how" to distinguish between official and unofficial acts.

Way to kick the can down the road

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:36 AM (IyPmt)

240 SCOTUS sending case back to lower courts to determine which acts were official and not official.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:36 AM (G0vdT)

241 SCOTUS punts the ball on first down once again.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (fv27Y)

242 This economy is historically good. Carter is the only incumbent to lose with positive GDP growth.

LOL... What a whopper

Posted by: It's me donna

Not a one of those people have any exposure to the strains of the 2024 economy. Not. A. One.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (OUMaO)

243 230
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2024 10:34 AM (JCZqz)

========

Just...so much.

Firstly, they finally admit that wages aren't as high as inflation? You keep bringing us quotes where they brag about how some measure of wage growth is higher than inflation, even though it was always nonsense. Guy probably gonna get banned.

Also, they seem really trapped in between this idea that people determine the strength of the economy based on numbers they see, so it's either they don't see the right numbers or the wrong numbers are put in front of them. It doesn't matter their own experiences, just that the government says the economy is good and that's enough (because they are moral and would never lie) while anyone with an oppositional opinion is just misinformation. It's just fascinating to see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (GBKbO)

244 Looks like Trump just dodged another trial before the election.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (xPl2J)

245 240 SCOTUS sending case back to lower courts to determine which acts were official and not official.
Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:36 AM (G0vdT)

Lower Courts... Trump ?... Unofficial !

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (IyPmt)

246 "the lower courts rendered their decisions on a highly expedited basis" and "did not analyze the conduct alleged in the indictment to decide which of it should be categorized as official and which unofficial"
===================
Roberts to Democrat Judges: Take a few years to decide these cases. Don't rush back.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (+UMhJ)

247 Start sending empty soup cans to the USSC.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:38 AM (qZEuM)

248 Log Entry 07/01/24:

Lat. 1.7 S. Long 143 W.
"Tenth day in the doldrums. We're on half rations for water."

Posted by: James Cook at July 01, 2024 10:38 AM (XeU6L)

249 Breaking News: Jack Smith was seen being lowered into an ice bath.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:38 AM (ZRbQD)

250 Not an opinion but this is probably why...

Prince Harry created the Invictus Games, an international sporting event for wounded, injured and sick Servicemen and women, and how they have grown over the years.

[In 2014 inspired by the U.S Warrior Games.]

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:38 AM (ZdexC)

251 132 BREAKING: A 6-3 Supreme Court says a 6-year deadline to challenge federal agency rules is based on when a company becomes affected by the rule, not when it is issued. Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson dissent.
(Corner Post v. Federal Reserve, No. 22-100
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:05 AM (LkLld)
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Another broadside into the administrative state.
Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:08 AM (G0vdT)

This seems obvious.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:38 AM (exHjb)

252 241 SCOTUS punts the ball on first down once again.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (fv27Y)

As written by Roberts - the lower courts did not consider what was "official" and what was "unofficial". So that should be argued back down in the lower court if they choose to.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:38 AM (N39Ws)

253 But later in the opinion, the court does weigh in on some aspects. "Trump is ... absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials."

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:39 AM (xPl2J)

254 Another broadside into the administrative state.
Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:08 AM (G0vdT)

Kinda makes ya think that maybe, just maybe, folks (including the Court) are waking up to the fact that the government has over reached. Waaayyyy over reached.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2024 10:39 AM (W/lyH)

255 253 But later in the opinion, the court does weigh in on some aspects. "Trump is ... absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials."
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:39 AM (xPl2J)

That's good

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:39 AM (IyPmt)

256 I can't prove it now but I'll swear I was thinking the Court would rule how it did:
Immunity for official act but not decide whither Trump was engaged in official acts.

It just seemed like the easier way out.

And, I was thinking, who hasn't wrote an opinion? Oh, right. Traditionally the CJ issues the last opinion.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:39 AM (75y46)

257 220 218 Immunity ruling. Official acts are immune. Others questionable
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (NMNWr)

Like I thought.. Limited immunity
Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:32 AM (IyPmt)

Also seems like the right call - will kick this now post election, so win for Trump...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:40 AM (exHjb)

258 Also seems like the right call - will kick this now post election, so win for Trump...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:40 AM (exHjb

Looks like it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:40 AM (IyPmt)

259 Sotomayor, Kagan & Jackson dissent.

—

Why do these 3 even bother showing up for arguments? It’s always the same outcome. Just have a template ready to fill out.

Posted by: Biden Is Finished at July 01, 2024 10:40 AM (Upff2)

260 253 But later in the opinion, the court does weigh in on some aspects. "Trump is ... absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials."
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:39 AM (xPl2J)

A better decision than the headline call...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:41 AM (exHjb)

261 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:37 AM (GBKbO)

.....and these are the "smart" ones...vis Daily Kos...does that still exist?

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 10:41 AM (AwYPR)

262 I've got CNBC on in the background and some talking head is rambling on about the immunity decision. I looked up and, holycrap it's Peter Strzok!

This fukkin' guy.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 01, 2024 10:41 AM (pIfcn)

263 While it might not be a knockout victory for Trump, this decision plus the overturning of Chevron and the findings in other admin cases are causing insanity in Dems (more than usual) and that is a good thing

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (NMNWr)

264 Roberts writes that "Trump asserts a far broader immunity than the limited one we have recognized."
-----

I certainly don't like that language.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (G0vdT)

265 Immunity Ruling: Would hang. I am now in compliance with the ethos and criminal statutes governing the Morning Art and Cultural Enlightenment Post and subsequent discussion.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (ZRbQD)

266 Trump gave Sotomayor diabetes, and he's not fat positive, and now the monster is immune for these crimes.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's Desiccated Womb at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (ohEAP)

267 "As for the dissents," Roberts writes, "they strike a tone of chilling doom that is wholly disproportionate to what the Court actually does today--conclude that immunity extends to official discussions between the President and his Attorney General, and then remand to the lower courts to determine 'in the first instance' whether and to what extent Trump's remaining alleged conduct is entitled to immunity.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (G0vdT)

268 Way to kick the can down the road
Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:36 AM (IyPmt)

Frustrating, but the correct Constitutional choice. They aren't *supposed* to consider anything no other court has considered.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (XjtdB)

269 Roberts seems determined to make all SCOTUS rulings as ambiguous as possible

"PLEASE LEAVE US OUT OF THIS!"

Posted by: Don Black at July 01, 2024 10:43 AM (/7KEl)

270 My take, the president isn't immune if he commits murder or some such crime. Carrying out his official duties of the executive branch means immunity. Of course the usual suspects will start parsing what are official duties. No matter what, smith won't be prosecuting PDT any time soon.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 01, 2024 10:43 AM (2NHgQ)

271 Stzrok should have been feed to sharks in international waters.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:43 AM (qZEuM)

272 249 Breaking News: Jack Smith was seen being lowered into an ice bath.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram

There's a decent sized community of YouTube channels dedicated to cute girls in bikinis taking ice baths that are almost as enjoyable to watch.

https://tinyurl.com/2z8vz3ru

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (JCZqz)

273 Supreme Court Rules Trump Immune From Criminal Charges For Official Actions

He's not immune from unofficial acts.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (RHGPo)

274 Trump gave Sotomayor diabetes, and he's not fat positive, and now the monster is immune for these crimes.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's Desiccated Womb at July 01, 2024 10:42 AM (ohEAP)

The womb is more highly educated than it's owner.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (Zz0t1)

275 My take, the president isn't immune if he commits murder or some such crime. Carrying out his official duties of the executive branch means immunity.

You mean like Obama droning an American citizen?

Posted by: Trump's Position Was the Correct One at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (ohEAP)

276 271 Stzrok should have been feed to sharks in international waters.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:43 AM (qZEuM)

slowly

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (pIfcn)

277 Roberts writes that "Trump asserts a far broader immunity than the limited one we have recognized."
-----

I certainly don't like that language.
Posted by: WisRich

matters not with this language: ""In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives,"

They just quartered every Hawaiian judge with that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (IG4Id)

278 They got the immunity decision right for the most part.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (sX1BW)

279 Final substantive paragraph: "The president enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law. But Congress may not criminalize the President's conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution."

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (G0vdT)

280 First Daily Kos immunity missive: "Well. They punted it, the cowardly assholes."

Ha!

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (ZRbQD)

281 The justices, voting 6-3 along ideological lines, said a federal appeals court was too categorical in rejecting Trump’s immunity arguments, ruling for the first time that former presidents are shielded from prosecution for some official acts taken while in office. The majority ordered the lower courts to revisit the case to decide the extent of the allegations that are off limits to prosecution.

.. Barack Obama can sleep tonight

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (RHGPo)

282 273 Supreme Court Rules Trump Immune From Criminal Charges For Official Actions

He's not immune from unofficial acts.
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (RHGPo)

You wouldn't want him to be, or Briben Biden would becone the presidential norm...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (exHjb)

283 CNBC first guest after the ruling?

PETER STRZOK

ISYN

Posted by: mediapostate at July 01, 2024 10:46 AM (THLv1)

284 matters not with this language: ""In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives,"

They just quartered every Hawaiian judge with that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (IG4Id)
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Oh, that's good.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:46 AM (G0vdT)

285 Roberts writes that "Trump asserts a far broader immunity than the limited one we have recognized."
---
Non-binding dicta.

Roberts wanted 6-3.
He didn't have the votes for limited immunity.
And he won't when it comes back, if it does.

So, it's absolute immunity for now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:46 AM (75y46)

286 Their damn fault!

Of COURSE: Biden Family Pushes Bag of Brain-Dead Biden to FIRE Advisers After TERRIBLE Debate Performance

https://is.gd/2qQyus

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 10:46 AM (L/fGl)

287 Stzrok should have been feed to sharks in international waters.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:43 AM (qZEuM)

Plenty of sharks in the Chesapeake...no need to travel.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 10:47 AM (AwYPR)

288 Supreme Court Rules Trump Immune From Criminal Charges For Official Actions

He's not immune from unofficial acts.

------------

Makes sense in theory. Obviously, then comes down to what is an official act and what is unofficial. A president should be immune in carrying out his executive function duties. But why should Clinton be immune from harassing an intern? Some grey areas for sure.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 10:47 AM (sX1BW)

289 286 Their damn fault!

Of COURSE: Biden Family Pushes Bag of Brain-Dead Biden to FIRE Advisers After TERRIBLE Debate Performance

https://is.gd/2qQyus
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 10:46 AM (L/fGl)

========

This is proof that Biden is leaving! Or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:47 AM (GBKbO)

290 I'm no legal expert, even though I have seen My Cousin Vinnie

So I'll wait to hear what others more knowledgable than me have to say

such as F Lee Levin today

Posted by: Don Black at July 01, 2024 10:47 AM (/7KEl)

291 282 273 Supreme Court Rules Trump Immune From Criminal Charges For Official Actions

He's not immune from unofficial acts.
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:44 AM (RHGPo)

You wouldn't want him to be, or Briben Biden would becone the presidential norm...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (exHjb)

I do in fact want total immunity. Because here's how this plays out: deep state prosecutors always come up with reasons to not prosecute Dems, and the distinction between official/unofficial is endlessly litigated as lawfare against Trump et al.

Posted by: Trump's Position Was the Correct One at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (ohEAP)

292 I still say it's vague

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (IyPmt)

293 282
You wouldn't want him to be, or Briben Biden would becone the presidential norm...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 10:45 AM (exHjb)

And yet Briben Biden is immune from prosecution because of his infirmity and that no jury in their right minds would convict him because of his infirmity.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (N39Ws)

294 The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.

There are a number of quotes like this and they are all slightly wrong.

The problem in this area is the large group of people who believe learning is "being told what to believe by experts" and that's it. You aren't allowed to question the experts because you aren't one. Who determines who the experts are? The other experts.

This isn't learning and it certainly isn't science - it is dogma enforced by a clerisy.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (oZhjI)

295 If only there were some mechanism a political party could use to have a lengthy conversation about their prospective nominee. Something which would test their stamina and mettle. A way for voters to chime in on their preferences.

Someone should look into that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 01, 2024 10:07 AM (T7iTv)

If Biden walks away, THEY HAVE TO GIVE THE DONATIONS BACK AND THE MONEY IS ALL SPENT

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (D7oie)

296 He's not immune from unofficial acts.
Posted by: SMOD

Yeah, and SCUMUS just said no court or Congress can make the distinction. Sucks to be a cuffin' leftie.

"Whenever the President and Vice President discuss their official responsibilities, they engage in official conduct."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (IG4Id)

297 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (u82oZ)

298 And yet Briben Biden is immune from prosecution because of his infirmity and that no jury in their right minds would convict him because of his infirmity.

Can you imagine what the Junta would do to a prosecutor that brought charges or a juror that voted to convict?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (oZhjI)

299 From the Sotomayor dissent, which is joined by both Kagan and Jackson: Today's ruling "reshapes the institution of the Presidency" and "makes a mockery of the principle . . . that no man is above the law." The decision "gives former President Trump all the immunity he asked for and more. Because our Constitution does not shield a former president from answering for criminal and treasonous acts, I dissent."
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Kagan doesn't "respectively dissent". She's mad.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (G0vdT)

300
such as F Lee Levin today
Posted by: Don Black at July 01, 2024 10:47 AM (/7KEl)

I would still love to see him as press secretary.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (Zz0t1)

301 295 If Biden walks away, THEY HAVE TO GIVE THE DONATIONS BACK AND THE MONEY IS ALL SPENT

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (D7oie)

======

And Whitmer literally knifes Newsom in the kidney as they pass during a backroom meeting with donors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (GBKbO)

302 >matters not with this language: ""In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives,"

They just quartered every Hawaiian judge with that.

---

"Yeah, no."
-Hawaiian judges

Posted by: Don Black at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (/7KEl)

303 Dr. Cruelly de Jill.

https://is.gd/lCTowK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 10:50 AM (L/fGl)

304 Kagan doesn't "respectively dissent". She's mad.

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Oh, is that how this works?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 10:50 AM (sX1BW)

305 s/b respectfully

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:50 AM (G0vdT)

306 Kagan doesn't "respectively dissent". She's mad.
Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:49 AM (G0vdT)

Isn't she the one who goes home and cries about the rulings that don't go her way?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:50 AM (N39Ws)

307 What a couple of weeks.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:50 AM (LkLld)

308 Trump is winning all over the place.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (q7hip)

309 I think this is going to be one of those days where Sotomayor goes back to her office and cries.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (xPl2J)

310 In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives,"
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So basically, everything the president does is an official act.
And every official act is immune.
Even improperly motivated acts.

Only unofficial acts that overcome the presumption that it was official could possibly subject the president to prosecution.

Bottom line: Sounds a lot like absolute immunity in all but name.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (75y46)

311 309 I think this is going to be one of those days where Sotomayor goes back to her office and ~~cries~~ eats donuts.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (xPl2J)

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FIFY.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

312 Breaking News: Jack Smith was seen being lowered into an ice bath.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01,

Head firdt$?

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (JLq/1)

313 Isn't she the one who goes home and cries about the rulings that don't go her way?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 01, 2024 10:50 AM (N39Ws)

Sotomayor.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (xPl2J)

314 All in all, a freaking awesome last week of the SCOTUS term.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (G0vdT)

315 If only there were some mechanism a political party could use to have a lengthy conversation about their prospective nominee. Something which would test their stamina and mettle. A way for voters to chime in on their preferences.

Watching Democrat campaigns are fascinating in an odd way. It never has much to do with who actual Dem voters want - it always comes down to the power brokers picking. Sometimes with super delegates, sometimes with bribes, and sometimes with fraud.

But I guess it makes sense because the voters in the Dem party are in turn fine with "their" nominees "winning" office in the same way

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 10:52 AM (oZhjI)

316 It's like lawyers and 'billable hours'

just wear your President hat when you discuss anything

Posted by: Don Black at July 01, 2024 10:52 AM (/7KEl)

317 ruling for the first time that former presidents are shielded from prosecution for some official acts taken while in office

.. actually, this seems rather obvious

presently, it is assumed that judges and prosecutors have some level of immunity, so it goes by simple extension that the PTOUS would have at least as much immunity.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:52 AM (RHGPo)

318 314 All in all, a freaking awesome last week of the SCOTUS term.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (G0vdT)

=====

If Thomas and Alito stay on through another term...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:52 AM (GBKbO)

319 Looks like a bearclaws day.

Posted by: The Rotund Latina at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (qZEuM)

320 Apparently, non unanimous court decisions might be problematic. Well, gosh, NBC news, how 'bout you take those goal posts and shove them?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (pIfcn)

321 BTW, Queers for Palestine type psychos stopped Toronto's 'pride' parade partway though so the 'parade' wasn't finished.

And funny how "Pride Weekend" used to the second-last weekend in June to avoid Canada's July 1st and the States' July 4th holidays but now it's held in the last weekend in June.

Totally coincidental I'm sure just like that fag thing timed for Easter.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (ZdexC)

322 Donald Trump posting on Truth Social.

>>Big win for our Constitution and Democracy. Proud to be an American!

Orange Man Good!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (LkLld)

323 Breaking : Jack Smith declares that since Trump was not My president, none of his acts were official acts. Has added 143,389 additional felony charges.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (evvc2)

324 I still say it's vague

Posted by: It's me donna at July 01, 2024 10:48 AM (IyPmt)

Lawyerspeak....always contradictory and vague...clear as mud.

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (AwYPR)

325 Trump is winning all over the place.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (q7hip)

Just give me a few more days to end the streak.

Posted by: Judge Marchan rubbing hands together gleefully at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (pPQAV)

326 Trump is winning all over the place.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (q7hip)

Heh.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (Zz0t1)

327 "gives former President Trump all the immunity he asked for and more. Because our Constitution does not shield a former president from answering for criminal and treasonous acts, I dissent."

———/

Don’t start none, won’t be none BITCH!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (W49vR)

328 315 Watching Democrat campaigns are fascinating in an odd way. It never has much to do with who actual Dem voters want - it always comes down to the power brokers picking. Sometimes with super delegates, sometimes with bribes, and sometimes with fraud.

But I guess it makes sense because the voters in the Dem party are in turn fine with "their" nominees "winning" office in the same way
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 10:52 AM (oZhjI)

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2020 proved the limits of how much they could move that needle anymore. The uniparty control of primaries has pretty much collapsed.

I think it's the schedule. They can't do it all at once, which decreases the power of places where they uniformly control election machinery.

SC being early ruins everything because SC elections are pretty clean.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

329 Looks like a bearclaws day.
Posted by: The Rotund Latina at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (qZEuM)

Please no not that gooey little tub of beady eyed shit. I'd rather listen to Peter Strzrzerkoff.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (VoAdT)

330 320 Apparently, non unanimous court decisions might be problematic. Well, gosh, NBC news, how 'bout you take those goal posts and shove them?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (pIfcn)

========

Like Obergfell?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

331 All in all, a freaking awesome last week of the SCOTUS term.

Posted by: WisRich

Eh, pretty cowardly of them to boot the State's First Amendment case. Remanding it back isn't going to deter the most consequential actions of the Administrative Evil that is our Federal beast.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2024 10:55 AM (IG4Id)

332 ruling for the first time that former presidents are shielded from prosecution for some official acts taken while in office

Trump being prosecuted for taking classified documents...when the President has complete authority to declassify documents was always pretty amazing to me.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 10:55 AM (oZhjI)

333 If only there were some mechanism a political party could use to have a lengthy conversation about their prospective nominee. Something which would test their stamina and mettle. A way for voters to chime in on their preferences.

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Funny, how the parties long ago abandoned the convention system for selecting a nominee in favor of the more "democratic" primary system, which isn't all that democratic. But it is still a bit more democractic than closed door cigar smoked rooms. I don't know which one is necessarily better, in today's age, probably the primary system as it does give the people more of a say. The convention system served a different time and place and electorate. But the convention system would allow them to get out of the hole they are currently in.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 10:55 AM (sX1BW)

334 You want a good doctor?

https://is.gd/LFIQsy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 01, 2024 10:56 AM (L/fGl)

335
Eh, pretty cowardly of them to boot the State's First Amendment case. Remanding it back isn't going to deter the most consequential actions of the Administrative Evil that is our Federal beast.

If Trump does win it will be fascinating to watch a bunch of courts argue that the president can't tell social media to censor people starting...on Trump's inauguration date.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2024 10:56 AM (oZhjI)

336 Excellent. All is proceeding as I have foreseen.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:14 AM

Leftists...let the butthurt flow through you!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 10:57 AM (ZANHd)

337 Five days ago, Latin America was shaken by what can only be described as one of the most incompetent attempts at a ‘coup d’état’ in history.

A few units of the Bolivian army, led by supposedlt rebelling Generals, converged upon the Presidential palace in La Paz and rammed their way in with an armored car, with the stated goal of deposing the controversial Socialist goon Luis Arce – only to receive no support from other army formations, and retreat in shame after just a few hours.

Upon his arrest, the leader of the coup, General Commander of the Army Juan José Zúñiga, declared that all the fuss was actually a fake plot led by Arce himself, in an attempt to boost his popularity with the Bolivian people.

.. the demand for coups far outstrips the availability of coups

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 10:57 AM (RHGPo)

338 Obama should be thanking the Supreme Court. Droning American citizens without any legal justification is kind of a no no.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2024 10:57 AM (LkLld)

339 Leftists...let the butthurt flow through you!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 10:57 AM (ZANHd)

It only hurts the first couple times. Then you get stretched out and used to it.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (Zz0t1)

340 Apparently, non unanimous court decisions might be problematic. Well, gosh, NBC news, how 'bout you take those goal posts and shove them?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 01, 2024 10:53 AM (pIfcn)

========

Like Obergfell?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM

Shut up! That's (D)ifferent!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (ZANHd)

341 ruling for the first time that former presidents are shielded from prosecution for some official acts taken while in office

Trump being prosecuted for taking classified documents...when the President has complete authority to declassify documents was always pretty amazing to me.
Posted by: 18-1

The Dems still have a shot at prosecuting him for taking office supplies home.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (ZRbQD)

342 Please no not that gooey little tub of beady eyed shit. I'd rather listen to Peter Strzrzerkoff.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 01, 2024 10:54 AM (VoAdT)

Isn't there two of 'em? Identical twins?

Posted by: BignJames at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (AwYPR)

343 Can we get a flaming scalpweasel?

Posted by: Iasonas at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (2O9Sc)

344 I think this is going to be one of those days where Sotomayor goes back to her office and ~~cries~~ eats a box of Twinkies.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (J2vNu)

345 this SCOTUS ruling makes me want to smoke a cigarette

Posted by: Don Black at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (/7KEl)

346 I saw this on Twitter. I don't know if it's real or not.

Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (xPl2J)

347 So if this ruling was applied to Biden his crapping his pants is not an official act

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (NMNWr)

348 ruling for the first time that former presidents are shielded from prosecution for some official acts taken while in office

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Because until now, such a ruling was unnecessary.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 10:59 AM (sX1BW)

349 Benghazi and Fast and Furious have entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:59 AM (qZEuM)

350 To give you all an idea of how high a hurdle it is when the Court says "presumed "

You all recall in Heritage America where we had presumed innocent?

But, it's like proving libel by a public figure and it's presumed no malice, so makes it near impossible to prove the necessary malice.
Meaning public figures never win libel suits.
Hogan was the extreme exception.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 01, 2024 10:59 AM (75y46)

351 346 I saw this on Twitter. I don't know if it's real or not.

Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (xPl2J)
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SCOTUSBLOG didn't mention it during their streaming event.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:59 AM (G0vdT)

352 Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (xPl2J)

I AM the LAW!!!!!

Posted by: Judge Merrick Dredd at July 01, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

353 Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."

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Whether he wrote it or not, Jack Smith is arguably not an officer of the US and therefore has no power to bring such an action as he was not properly confirmed.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 11:00 AM (sX1BW)

354 Why do 'they' say Trump lies? Just like Zelenskyy, Biden is a creation. Every single thing about Joe Biden - but for his folky, whimsical tales that now show he's just a harmless, elderly statesman with much humanity - by whoever are, and have been, his backers for half a century. ('The Lies We Have Lived Through,' by Victor Davis Hanson, today, were included by J.J. as one of The Morning Report articles.)

While democracy dies in darkness works on:
Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years
The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › ... › Fact Checker 32
Jan 24, 2021 — When The Washington Post Fact Checker team first started cataloguing President Donald Trump's ... 2 alone, the day before the 2020 vote, Trump ...

And,

Trump is averaging more than 50 false or misleading ...
The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › ... › Fact Checker 32
Oct 22, 2020 — In the final weeks of the election, the president is in hyperdrive — and is on track to exceed 25000 false or misleading claims by Election ...

We better get the ground game in operation NOW. (Some things - like RFJ, Jr.'s campaign - are entirely too quiet in the press.)

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 01, 2024 11:00 AM (NFX2v)

355 Roberts' decision also says that the President's motives cannot be used to determine if an act is official or not. That seems like a big deal.

Posted by: No one at July 01, 2024 11:00 AM (CQ3Qb)

356 It only hurts the first couple times. Then you get stretched out and used to it.
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM

*ignites lightsaber*

*hands it to the Baby-Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (ZANHd)

357 Can we get a flaming scalpweasel?
Posted by: Iasonas at July 01, 2024 10:58 AM (2O9Sc)

Now there's a nic I have not seen in a long time! Welcome back!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (KmEIw)

358 SCOTUSBLOG:

The court also notes in a footnote that the district court "if necessary" should consider whether two of the charges brought by Jack Smith against Trump in Washington, involving the obstruction of an official proceeding, can go forward in light of the court's ruling last week in Fischer v. United States, narrowing the scope of that law.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (G0vdT)

359 Benghazi and Fast and Furious have entered the chat.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 10:59 AM (qZEuM)

What difference, at this point, does the movie franchise make?!?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

360 Does anyone know what impact the SCOTUS ruling will have on the New York trial? Sentencing is next week.

Posted by: StefanH at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (dO+hR)

361 LOL.
ABC is wetting themselves over today's SCOTUS ruling.

End of America yo!

Posted by: Bananamerica at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (MB784)

362 Roberts' decision also says that the President's motives cannot be used to determine if an act is official or not. That seems like a big deal.

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Note that a VP has no such immunity and actions Joe took as a VP are fair game. Go get the big man.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (sX1BW)

363 The decision "gives former President Trump all the immunity he asked for and more.
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So, Kagan, et al make it personal . What a surprise.

Posted by: James Cook at July 01, 2024 11:02 AM (XeU6L)

364 360 Does anyone know what impact the SCOTUS ruling will have on the New York trial? Sentencing is next week.

Posted by: StefanH at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (dO+hR)

It means he'll probably get the death penalty in New York.

Posted by: No one at July 01, 2024 11:02 AM (CQ3Qb)

365 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2024 11:01 AM (KmEIw)

Thank you!

Posted by: Iasonas at July 01, 2024 11:02 AM (2O9Sc)

366 These prosecutors who all have immunity screeching about the president is ridiculous. Oh, and Sotomayor is an imbecile.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 01, 2024 11:02 AM (U8kCF)

367 We haven't reached the crescendo of screeching.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 01, 2024 11:02 AM (qZEuM)

368 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 01, 2024 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

369 318 314 All in all, a freaking awesome last week of the SCOTUS term.

Posted by: WisRich at July 01, 2024 10:51 AM (G0vdT)

=====

If Thomas and Alito stay on through another term...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:52 AM (GBKbO)

If we vote Rs, so a D Senate can't hamstring any future SC pick by Rs...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2024 11:03 AM (exHjb)

370 Upon his arrest, the leader of the coup, General Commander of the Army Juan José Zúñiga, declared that all the fuss was actually a fake plot led by Arce himself, in an attempt to boost his popularity with the Bolivian people.
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He stole my move, Jerry!

Posted by: Recep Tayyip Erdogan at July 01, 2024 11:03 AM (ZdexC)

371 According to Newsweek, CNN, AP, etc. At yesterday's family meeting at the WH, the Biden family urges Joe to remain in race with Hunter being especially adamant.

They want to drag Joe's skeleton around to keep the grift going. Of course the deep state's media will maintain that this is to fight for democracy against the evil orange man. Sick people.

Posted by: Cheri at July 01, 2024 11:03 AM (oiNtH)

372 Jill hates Kamala because Kamala called Joe (correctly) a racist in a 2019 primary debate. No way Jill lets Kamala take the helm. So either Joe stays in all the way to the election or gets out only after he has officially been nominated, in which case the Party can pick who they want (not Kamala). Either way, it's another Democrat Party Shit Show.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 01, 2024 11:03 AM (qUkBO)

373 Does anyone know what impact the SCOTUS ruling will have on the New York trial? Sentencing is next week.

None.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 01, 2024 11:04 AM (U8kCF)

374 The court indicates that the president's immunity for official acts "extends to the outer perimeter of the President's official responsibilities, covering actions so long as they are not manifestly or palpably beyond his authority."

So, a pretty broad brush there.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 01, 2024 11:04 AM (fv27Y)

375 Note that a VP has no such immunity and actions Joe took as a VP are fair game. Go get the big man.
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And Senator; and his biographer.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at July 01, 2024 11:05 AM (ZdexC)

376 184 I mean, I knew that Landis was most likely culpable (though the courts said not legally) for the deaths of three people on the set of the Twilight Zone movie, but holy crap...he seems insane. His son, Max, makes so much more sense now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at July 01, 2024 10:25 AM (GBKbO)

Max used to post on a message board I used to read.

He pretended to be his ex-girlfriend, and most of the shit he posted either made no sense, or was just "OMG, isn't Max Landis great?".

Posted by: XTC at July 01, 2024 11:06 AM (UnA8+)

377 Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."

.. don't see those exact words in Justice Thomas' concurring opinion, but it is essentially what he said.
More importantly, Justice Thomas maps out how Judge Cannon should review the appointment of Jack Smith .. invalid

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 11:17 AM (RHGPo)

378 Wait .. hee it is on page 2 of the Thomas concurring opinion ...

No former President has faced criminal prosecution for
his acts while in office in the more than 200 years since the
founding of our country. And, that is so despite numerous
past Presidents taking actions that many would argue con-
stitute crimes. If this unprecedented prosecution is to pro-
ceed, it must be conducted by someone duly authorized to
do so by the American people. The lower courts should thus
answer these essential questions concerning the Special
Counsel’s appointment before proceeding.

Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2024 11:20 AM (RHGPo)

379 Jack Smith seems demonic.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 01, 2024 11:27 AM (JLq/1)

380 According to Newsweek, CNN, AP, etc. At yesterday's family meeting at the WH, the Biden family urges Joe to remain in race with Hunter being especially adamant.

Did the slack jawed dementia patient know they were talking to him?

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