Is Cultural Power Moving To The States?

The Deep State^TM has conspired with the progressive movement to shift the focus of our federal government from its traditional function (wasting our money and doing a half-assed job of running the country), to a radical reimagining of America.

Trans lunacy, insane racial favoritism, abortion-on-demand until (or maybe including) birth, open borders, demonization of traditional America, destruction of our God-given, natural right to self defense, and that's just the short list.

But there is pushback, and it isn't coming from our feckless, corrupt, amoral leaders in Washington. It is coming from the states...those wonderful laboratories of liberty that have come to realize that the federal government is not our friend. Not all of them of course...California leads the way to our new and glorious Socialist Peoples Democratic States of America, followed by the usual suspects of Oregon and Illinois and New York and New Jersey and Massachusetts and...

But there are states that are disgusted by what is happening in the halls of federal power, and they are taking the 10th Amendment very, very, seriously!

Ohio House Passes Transgender Bathroom and Locker Room Ban

And here is blue Pennsylvania doing something smart!

Pennsylvania plans to pilot a program that would see teens' smartphones locked away during the school day

And because the states now have control over abortion law, the hysteria on the national stage may be losing its power, and perhaps losing it's influence over elections. I'm not holding my breath, but this is a very good thing.

Abortion: Democrats' Lead on Issue Thinner Than Ever

The future of America is in the state houses, not Congress.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:01 PM (fwDg9)

2 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:01 PM (ilFrm)

3 Hope and change?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 30, 2024 12:01 PM (w6EFb)

4 OMG! Is this debate excerpt for real????????

https://tinyurl.com/5n85fssm

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:02 PM (ilFrm)

5 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:01 PM (fwDg9)
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Or dinner time.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:03 PM (ilFrm)

6 Being of a skeptical mind, I wonder if the phone locking up has more to do with avoiding radical teachers being recorded.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:05 PM (pZEOD)

7 At Doug Ross Journal- Mayorga claims the power to re-admit illegals thrown out of the country.
If that isn't reshaping America what is?

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:05 PM (fwDg9)

8 OMG! Is this debate excerpt for real????????

https://tinyurl.com/5n85fssm
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:02 PM (ilFrm)
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Yes it is. I watched it live.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:07 PM (NpAcC)

9 1 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at

Only 11 here, Skip. And I ate 2 pieces of toast with almond butter and figs off my neighbors tree for breakfast. Not sure lunch is even going to happen.

Just the figs came off the tree, not the toast.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:07 PM (pZEOD)

10 #4 I think his mouth was on autopilot running without his slow brain.
It was a WTF? moment

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:08 PM (fwDg9)

11 I was going to grill a couple hot dogs bit looks like might rain any second so inside instead

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:09 PM (fwDg9)

12 Only 11 here, Skip. And I ate 2 pieces of toast with almond butter and figs off my neighbors tree for breakfast. Not sure lunch is even going to happen.

Just the figs came off the tree, not the toast.
Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:07 PM (pZEOD)

Does your neighbor know?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at June 30, 2024 12:09 PM (iODuv)

13 I saw the headline and thought, "Hope not."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:09 PM (hLUfO)

14 I think before Illinois turned Socialist, most of the counties (particularly below I-80) would secede. Champaign, East St.Louis and the other very few blue counties would have to decide how to go, but staying blue would not be viable.

----- my 2 cents

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #08 at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (qfLjt)

15
Yeah, once the Clinton school uniform policy is in place things will start to straighten up.

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (j4U/Z)

16 >> The future of America is in the state houses, not Congress.

I agree with this as an aspiration…. But at the moment and for the foreseeable future I’m afraid that what happens in DC very much matters. That huge and powerful administrative state is burrowed in like a stubborn tick. States should really start pushing the 10th amendment aggressively…. But we also need a Trump and then a Vance in DC to work things on that end (like firing millions of federal workers)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (SlNuN)

17 12.
Does your neighbor know?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice
Ha! Yes. He brought them over. Fresh figs taste much better than grocery bought ones.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (pZEOD)

18 https://tinyurl.com/5n85fssm

What more proof do you need how perverted this ...thing is?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:11 PM (hLUfO)

19 #4 I think his mouth was on autopilot running without his slow brain.
It was a WTF? moment
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:08 PM (fwDg9)
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Imagine had CCCPNN's moderator not intervened.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:11 PM (ilFrm)

20 "Not all of them of course...California leads the way to our new and glorious Socialist Peoples Democratic States of America,"

We've got Gavin Newsom waiting in the wings to make America California.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:12 PM (NpAcC)

21 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:01 PM (fwDg9)
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Or dinner time.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:03 PM (ilFrm)
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Just finished breakfast.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2024 12:12 PM (W/lyH)

22 Does your neighbor know?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice
Ha! Yes. He brought them over. Fresh figs taste much better than grocery bought ones.
Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (pZEOD)

Bring us our figgy pudding and bring it out here; we won’t go until we get some 🎶

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:13 PM (SlNuN)

23 The problem is the statehouses in most red states are controlled by the blue cities within.
e.g. Pennsylvania, Oregon

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:13 PM (hLUfO)

24 OMG! Is this debate excerpt for real????????

https://tinyurl.com/5n85fssm

Biden's chin cleft appears to be migrating. We need federal, common-sense, chin cleft control. The states cannot be trusted to properly implement such an important bill.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:13 PM (xCA6C)

25
We've got Gavin Newsom waiting in the wings to make America California.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:12 PM (NpAcC)

Yes MACA

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:13 PM (IyPmt)

26 I agree with this as an aspiration…. But at the moment and for the foreseeable future I’m afraid that what happens in DC very much matters.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (SlNuN)

Agreed. It is the future...the current climate is driven by D.C.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2024 12:13 PM (d9fT1)

27 I'm kinda fuzzy on the history of it all, but I seem to recall something about the states creating the feral gubmint, and not the other way around.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 12:14 PM (dg+HA)

28 22 Does your neighbor know?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice
Ha! Yes. He brought them over. Fresh figs taste much better than grocery bought ones.
Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (pZEOD)

We have a fig tree ripe right now... Sliced fig with goat cheese... Yum

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:14 PM (IyPmt)

29 18 What more proof do you need how perverted this ...thing is?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024

He starts by sounding like he is saying the person assaulted by an immigrant is lying, and then goes off the rails of his crazy train into the rest of the mess.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:14 PM (pZEOD)

30 "We've got Gavin Newsom waiting in the wings to make America California."

Oh goody.....

https://tinyurl.com/5fv9pawr

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:14 PM (a1415)

31
Yeah, once the Clinton school uniform policy is in place things will start to straighten up.
Posted by: Auspex

Uniforms by Boss Hugo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 30, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)

32 We've got Gavin Newsom waiting in the wings to make America California.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:12 PM (NpAcC)

Bill Ackman on X this morning: We know Trump is gonna win. Then in response to a question: what if it’s Newsom won’t you support him? Ackman said: Are you kidding?? Newsom is a huge disaster and has ruined CA

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:15 PM (SlNuN)

33 One cleft a month ought to be enough for anybody.

Posted by: Karen next door at June 30, 2024 12:15 PM (dg+HA)

34 > Is Cultural Power Moving To The States?
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Probably not. The alphabet people hold sway over culture right now. A lot of sway.

Sanity might be rearing it's head in some states though...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 12:16 PM (Q4IgG)

35 Biden is apparently meeting with family today to discuss whether or not to drop out.

I predict he will.

I think the Dems do not yet realize the damage they've done to their national project. The states will be glad to point it out.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)

36 "and then goes off the rails of his crazy train into ~~the rest of the mess~~ a discussion of his families sexual relations*.

* Suggested edit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:17 PM (a1415)

37 9am here,Skip. Cloudy and 60 here in the beach.
Just finished my first cuppa and got mauled by Lucy the Fink who tempted me with the promise of tummy rubs and then got me pretty good. Only minor bloodletting.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 12:17 PM (8nL0V)

38 Washington DC is a petri dish that needs sterilizing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:17 PM (ImxiA)

39 Here's the other problem, states like Rhode Island elect some local hack from East Cranston to the U.S. Senate while more populous states send arguably more luminary intellects such as John Kennedy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:17 PM (hLUfO)

40 35 Biden is apparently meeting with family today to discuss whether or not to drop out.

I predict he will.

I think the Dems do not yet realize the damage they've done to their national project. The states will be glad to point it out.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)

So Newsom, Witless , or Moochele ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:18 PM (IyPmt)

41 I think the Dems do not yet realize the damage they've done to their national project. The states will be glad to point it out.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)
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I think the opposite. Since any other Dem candidate is better than FJB, it will make the cheat easier if Biden drops ~~dead~~ out.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 12:18 PM (ilFrm)

42 We have a fig tree ripe right now... Sliced fig with goat cheese... Yum
Posted by: It's me donna at June 30

Throw halved figs on the grill for about 30 seconds.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 12:18 PM (8nL0V)

43 17 12.
Does your neighbor know?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice
Ha! Yes. He brought them over. Fresh figs taste much better than grocery bought ones.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (pZEOD)
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Green or black figs? I love both but here in S. IL I've never seen them. Same with persimmons. Last time I had was 1973 in Rome, Italy.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #09 at June 30, 2024 12:18 PM (qfLjt)

44 So Newsom, Witless , or Moochele ?

Beats me. All I know is that comparing Biden's record and affect with, say, DeSantis' does the national project no favors.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:19 PM (xCA6C)

45 Throw halved figs on the grill for about 30 seconds.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 12:18 PM (8nL0

Sounds good

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:19 PM (IyPmt)

46 There was a comment on Twitter yesterday. Picture of a very pregnant woman's midsection. She said she is healthy and the baby is healthy. And in her state, she could still get an abortion. There have also been tweets of very cute Down's babies, saying "this child is worthy of life". The right has lost the culture war so long that they've forgotten how to fight it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:19 PM (xjTDL)

47 He starts by sounding like he is saying the person assaulted by an immigrant is lying, and then goes off the rails of his crazy train into the rest of the mess.
Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:14 PM (pZEOD)

I thought he was beginning to talk about the Biden family Christmas.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2024 12:19 PM (W/lyH)

48
"We've got Gavin Newsom waiting in the wings to make America California."

Oh goody.....

https://tinyurl.com/5fv9pawr
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

No one was arrested, police said.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 30, 2024 12:19 PM (63Dwl)

49 Grilled figs topped with goat cheese and crushed pistachios drizzle of honey

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (hLUfO)

50 Bidet, "women being raped their sisters."

WTEF Joey?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (ImxiA)

51 49 Grilled figs topped with goat cheese and crushed pistachios drizzle of honey
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (hLUfO)

That sounds good too

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (IyPmt)

52 Newsom’s viability ended when California sank into megabillion deficits. And has everyone forgottten that non-telegenic Ron DeSantis completely kicked Gavin’s ass in their debate? Newsom owes his position to his connections with California’s ruling families. That won’t work nationally.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (S6gqv)

53 I like to call Newsom as Nuisance. It fits.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #10 at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (qfLjt)

54 "No one was arrested, police said."

No skid marks on a PRIDE crosswalk.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:21 PM (a1415)

55 On Mayorkas, that to me is a symptom of the Deep State, Mayorkas has a fiefdom and being a good Cultural Marxist knows what his job is

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:21 PM (fwDg9)

56 37 9am here,Skip. Cloudy and 60 here in the beach.
Just finished my first cuppa and got mauled by Lucy the Fink who tempted me with the promise of tummy rubs and then got me pretty good. Only minor bloodletting.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June

It’s 90 here already and Sabi just plopped his furry self on my lap. Nothing like a 102 degree hairy creature on a hot day. He is really cute, though.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:21 PM (pZEOD)

57 Frau Gretchen 2024!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:21 PM (ImxiA)

58 Today is the big pride parade downtown Seattle. This whole month has been fairly subdued in comparison to years past. Even in my super gay neighborhood, there's only a small handful of flags, and the majority of those are up all year.

No big fag beach party this year. No huge turnout for the fag rollerskate along the beachfront (which has been pretty funny in years past). It's like the whole of fagdom told them to chill out this year.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 12:22 PM (ZmTY1)

59 Did move outside, humid but sun is out

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:22 PM (fwDg9)

60 I think the Dems do not yet realize the damage they've done to their national project. The states will be glad to point it out.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)
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I think the opposite. Since any other Dem candidate is better than FJB, it will make the cheat easier if Biden drops dead out.

We don't really disagree. It will make the cheat easier, but I believe still nigh impossible given the givens. What I meant was that the emperor's nudity is now on full display, and it will be difficult to convince most people to buy into what are now the obvious lies of the left. Dems are not interested in state power, they want the whole kahuna, but they have so beclowned themselves that it will be a long time, if ever, before they recover.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:22 PM (xCA6C)

61 Does anyone seriously think Dr! Jill will let the vegetable drop out of the race?

Posted by: Old Blue at June 30, 2024 12:22 PM (Pxa/w)

62 Stand strong Joe!

Don't let them force you out!

You, Jill, and Hunter deserve the Democratic nomination!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 30, 2024 12:22 PM (uxCna)

63 We need to move power out of DC to the states; conservatives (like me) need to get the hell out of blue states; and red states need to STOP ELECTING RINOS FOR EFFING CRYING OUT LOUD WHAT IS THE EFFING MATTER WITH YOU DO YOU REALIZE WHAT TIME IT IS???!!!

Posted by: Fred Up at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (qUkBO)

64 You, Jill, and Hunter deserve the Democratic nomination!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 30, 2024 12:22 PM (uxCna)

Yes

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (IyPmt)

65 51 49 Grilled figs topped with goat cheese and crushed pistachios drizzle of honey
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:20 PM (hLUfO)

That sounds good too
Posted by: It's me donna at June

Fig and goat cheese ice cream is also yummy, if you have an ice cream maker.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (pZEOD)

66 is this an open thread

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (/7KEl)

67 I need a second term to stop the epidemic of women being raped by their sisters!

Posted by: Joe Biden, Man Of Steel! at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (uxCna)

68 We have a true coscksucker here in TX for Speaker of house elected by getting all the (D)ouchebags to vote for him along with about 10 (R)inos.
He is controlled by the Bush cabal that thinks they will own the state for the next 100 years.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (ENQN6)

69
I predict he will.

I think the Dems do not yet realize the damage they've done to their national project. The states will be glad to point it out.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)

So Newsom, Witless , or Moochele ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:18 PM (IyPmt)

I still believe he’ll refuse to drop out. What incentive does he have? He has 90+% of the pledged delegates…. All he has to do is stand pat until the convention in early August. Those who want him out can only grit their teeth in frustration or create a huge election-losing ruckus at their convention. In addition to which Kamala is his ace in the hole. Dems are stuck and it’s hilarious. Hoisted on their own DEI petard

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (SlNuN)

70 Continuing my observations from earlier of the Media/DNC war going on...

Washington Post article: "Biden aides plotted debate strategy for months. Then it all collapsed."

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (5p7BC)

71 I remember Rick Perry saying when he was a Presidential candidate that he would make the federal government insignificant in our lives as possible. The screeching from the media was almost autistic level.

Notice that every attempt to make the feds less important will be met with "But what about (insert cause here)? Who will run it?"

As for that clip about Biden, I'm not surprised that CNN saved him from himself on that one. But they were about 20 seconds too late.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2024 12:24 PM (lXCUP)

72 Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (5p7BC)

Dave !

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:24 PM (IyPmt)

73 is this an open thread
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (/7KEl)
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My attention span is way shorter than 100 comments.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (hLUfO)

74 Update!!!

Hubbymayhem got the job as Wal-Mart truck driver!
We got a bunch of ditches filled in with dirt yesterday and today we are getting rid of an old water spigot that has become a mowing dammit.
The garden center where we get fill dirt is closed today so we will have to do the rest this week. Hubbymayhem has all week off!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (4XwPj)

75 Bill Ackman on X this morning: We know Trump is gonna win. Then in response to a question: what if it’s Newsom won’t you support him? Ackman said: Are you kidding?? Newsom is a huge disaster and has ruined CA
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:15 PM (SlNuN)
*******
My fear is that Newsom will be able to fool a lot of people with his charm and looks.
I watched him debate DeSantis and was shocked at how well he could lie through his teeth with ease.
There are many people that aren't that much into politics and don't even know who he is or what he's done to ruin California.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (NpAcC)

76 Dems are not interested in state power, they want the whole kahuna, but they have so beclowned themselves that it will be a long time, if ever, before they recover.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30

But if you read their insane sites, the realization Biden is 4 fries short of a happy meal isn’t making a difference. They would vote for an old shoe running as a democrat.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (pZEOD)

77 Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (4XwPj)

Good news

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (IyPmt)

78 >>>>Washington Post article: "Biden aides plotted debate strategy for months. Then it all collapsed."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (5p7BC)
********
Everyone has a plan until you’re punched in the face.

Posted by: Some Boxer Guy at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (llQcU)

79 Notice that every attempt to make the feds less important will be met with "But what about (insert cause here)? Who will run it?"

The Constitution lays out very clearly what are Federal responsibilities. If they're doing other things now, they need to stop.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:26 PM (xCA6C)

80 Dave's not here ;-)

Posted by: Old Blue at June 30, 2024 12:27 PM (Pxa/w)

81 We got a bunch of ditches filled in with dirt yesterday and today we are getting rid of an old water spigot that has become a mowing dammit.

I hate those!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2024 12:27 PM (W/lyH)

82 Does anyone seriously think Dr! Jill will let the vegetable drop out of the race?

NO WAY, BUSTER!

I HAVE CONTROL OF OUR NATION'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM!

I HAVE AN ICBM POINTED AT CHAPPAQUA, AND IF THAT BITCH HILLARY MAKES ONE FALSE MOVE, SHE'LL GET TO TASTE NUCLEAR FIRE!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at June 30, 2024 12:27 PM (uxCna)

83 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy." - some dead Prussian dude.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:27 PM (ImxiA)

84 I predict the immunity case will go Trump's way. And I think we are at that inflection point of a change election, where public opinion accelerates against the current administration.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:27 PM (xjTDL)

85 "No plan survives contact with the enemy."

-some wartime guy probably

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:27 PM (/7KEl)

86 But if you read their insane sites, the realization Biden is 4 fries short of a happy meal isn’t making a difference. They would vote for an old shoe running as a democrat.

Eh, the sites aren't necessarily representative. They tend to attract the most interested and passionate (sound familiar?). They are numerous, but not enough to elect a president.

Just to be clear, I hope Biden IS the candidate.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:28 PM (xCA6C)

87 Oh Anna beat me to it

I think it was von Clauswitz

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:28 PM (/7KEl)

88 The right has lost the culture war so long that they've forgotten how to fight it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:19 PM (xjTDL)

They know how to fight it. But they think doing so is "being judgmental" and they will reply "But we're better than that!" Thankfully, younger conservatives are getting wise and punching back. Now we need more of it and when the media screeches about how doing that is not Christian, you punch them too.

As for the Dem mess right now:

1. I don't think Biden will drop out.
2. Even if he does or he's suicided, Kamala won't leave which means Hairgel can't be the VP. Michelle has said she's not interested in running so Whitmer is probably the lead candidate.

But let's be honest: These fuckers would vote for Hitler if it kept Trump out of the Presidency.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2024 12:28 PM (lXCUP)

89 Hi Donna

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:29 PM (5p7BC)

90 "61 Does anyone seriously think Dr! Jill will let the vegetable drop out of the race?"

It has been widely reported that Jill hates hates hates Kamala because during a primary debate in 2019 she called Joe (correctly) a racist. I think Jill can get to "Joe needs to go" but can't get past "and Kamala takes over." Jill may be trying to positions things so Joe gets officially nominated in August, then drops out, and The Party then picks whoever they want to take over (not Kamala). This would be a disaster for the Dems in multiple respects, though perhaps giving the nomination to Big Mike would overcome that.

Posted by: Fred Up at June 30, 2024 12:29 PM (qUkBO)

91 89 Hi Donna
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:29 PM (5p7BC)

We missed you !

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:29 PM (IyPmt)

92 They will need an M-88 to pull Jill out of the White House.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:30 PM (ImxiA)

93 I read recently that other states are now refusing to follow CA's lead on ICE and other mandates. It used to be that CA set the pace for the nation, but I think those days are done.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:30 PM (xCA6C)

94 >Michelle has said she's not interested in running

a lot of people say a lot of things

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:30 PM (/7KEl)

95 If somehow Kamala succeeds FJB and I stop commenting, remember you have no idea who I am.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 12:30 PM (hLUfO)

96 I put a lot of observations and discussion on the logistics for changing candidates in the Pixy thread, if anyone is interested. Starts around 289 I think.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:31 PM (5p7BC)

97 Speaking of counter counter culture, hubs rewatching Oppenheimer and I just really don't like the character as portrayed in the movie.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 30, 2024 12:31 PM (Ka3bZ)

98 Notice no one is trotting Hillary out as a candidate.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:31 PM (ImxiA)

99 Just look at the still shot of Jill during her Howard Dean moment. This is not the look of a quitter. That is the look of a power-mad fanatic.

That look could make the Palestinians bury themselves in their tunnels.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 12:32 PM (QB+5g)

100 79 The Constitution lays out very clearly what are Federal responsibilities. If they're doing other things now, they need to stop.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:26 PM (xCA6C)

I have had this debate with my father. He's basically what you would think of as a "classical liberal." One discussion went like this.

"Who would handle this?"
Me: "The states. Article One, Section Eight says what the feds can do."
"But what about-"
"Dad, it doesn't matter how many variations you give me. My answer will never change. Article One, Section Eight. Everything else has to be handled by the states."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2024 12:32 PM (lXCUP)

101 I don't think Joe trusts them to protect Hunter. Do they threaten Joe with pulling all protection for him if he doesn't leave?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:32 PM (xjTDL)

102 Miss everyone here as well. Hoping I can come back a little more often. Starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel at work.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:32 PM (5p7BC)

103 DOCTOR Jill Biden!

Fun fact - DOCTOR Jill's personal account on X is literally:

Dr. Jill Biden
@DrBiden

My friends and I once observed that the only PhDs who demand to be called "Doctor" and make a big deal of having the PhD are people who never have accomplished anything else with their lives, other than getting the PhD.

DOCTOR Jill of course has done only a small fraction of the work required to get an actual PhD (as opposed to an EdD).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 30, 2024 12:33 PM (uxCna)

104 vmom, why

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:34 PM (/7KEl)

105 Notice no one is trotting Hillary out as a candidate.

Bets?

Posted by: Tanned, Rested, and Ready! at June 30, 2024 12:34 PM (uxCna)

106 >>>our federal government ... its traditional function (wasting our money and doing a half-assed job of running the country)

heh

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 12:34 PM (NHMTR)

107 97 Speaking of counter counter culture, hubs rewatching Oppenheimer and I just really don't like the character as portrayed in the movie.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 30, 2024 12:31 PM (Ka3bZ

Me either

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:34 PM (IyPmt)

108 Has anyone seen Amy Bishop and Jill Biden in same room?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:34 PM (ImxiA)

109 Starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel at work.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:32 PM (5p7BC)

DON'T LOOK INTO THE LIGHT!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2024 12:35 PM (d9fT1)

110 57 Frau Gretchen 2024!
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:21 PM (ImxiA)

Exactly! Think of all the reich-wing crossover votes a pure Aryan will bring!

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 12:35 PM (j4U/Z)

111 If we are headed for the future of states with the power, them we need to put our best people there. We can't take effective governors or senators out to serve as Vice President. Let them move into Federal service as they are term limited out in the states.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:35 PM (xjTDL)

112 Somewhere this morning read a article with quotes from Jill's X that he thinks Jill wants to be surrogate President, at least enough to live in the White house another term

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:36 PM (fwDg9)

113 Auspex

The horses whinny in affirmation or terror?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:36 PM (ImxiA)

114 10th Amendment

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 12:36 PM (NHMTR)

115 Heh, I follow an X account called Reddit Lies on X. He does the same thing our Dem Underground reporter does, only in Reddit.

This one is a gem.

"Republicans clearly poisoned Biden before the debate, because that's what Putin does to his enemies."

Putting aside the insanity, why does it have to be Republicans? Why not Putin directly?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:36 PM (5p7BC)

116 Putting aside the insanity, why does it have to be Republicans? Why not Putin directly?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:36 PM (5p7BC)

Or Kamala

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:37 PM (IyPmt)

117
For example:

Well said, but I hope you’re wrong. One thing we need to keep in mind is, that it’s not just Biden we’re voting for but the Biden administration and policies. And the job of president is nothing like what we saw on Thursday night.

We voters are preparing to “hire” someone to run the country. One of the “job applicants” will lie to the boss (us), steal from the company (us) and use his position to enrich himself and further his own agenda (fascism). The other “applicant” is a smart, fair, honest, compassionate person who wants everyone to have a better life.

What respectable HR department would take a chance on a potential employee who would rip off the company and abscond with the profits before running the business into the ground

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:38 PM (pZEOD)

118 Heh, CBD ... It is probably a train

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:38 PM (5p7BC)

119 Sharp political insight from Politico.

Mark Hemingway
@Heminator
Behold, the most remarkable sentence in the annals of polling.

'President Biden was hurt badly by the debate, but Donald Trump didn’t benefit on any measure, except the vote.'

-
Just getting votes. That's all. Just getting votes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 30, 2024 12:39 PM (L/fGl)

120 Because the moldy cheese has slipped completely off their stale cracker Dave

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:39 PM (ImxiA)

121 DiF-let me add my best wishes on your return. From the Pixy thread:

The logistics of replacing Biden right now, even if Biden were to withdraw, are disastrous. They purposely locked everyone out of the primaries, so Biden has all the pledged delegates. They have to vote for Biden on the first ballot. Biden gets the nomination no matter what.

This is why I've always assumed he'd be made the nom, and then drop out for health reasons, or be 25thed.

Also, the time to get on the ballot in Wisconsin and Nevada are now past. If they replace Biden, then those two states will go to Trump by default.

Yeah, wanna bet that some Hawaiian judge would say "you can't disenfranchise the people", and make his own rule?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:39 PM (xCA6C)

122 Is it too early in the season for clan Bush to start crawling out from under their rocks?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 12:40 PM (aFNOf)

123 > Somewhere this morning read a article with quotes from Jill's X that he thinks Jill wants to be surrogate President, at least enough to live in the White house another term
--------
Wants? She is a surrogate president now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 12:40 PM (Q4IgG)

124 Michelle has said she's not interested in running

a lot of people say a lot of things

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:30 PM

While I understand that a metric a$$ ton of liberals want her to be joe biden's replacement it ain't gonna happen. Frau Doktor Professor jill biden is not going to let him be replaced.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 30, 2024 12:40 PM (QNSds)

125 Heh, CBD ... It is probably a train

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:38 PM (5p7BC)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2024 12:41 PM (d9fT1)

126 A crazy train?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:41 PM (ImxiA)

127 Continuing my observations from earlier of the Media/DNC war going on...

Washington Post article: "Biden aides plotted debate strategy for months. Then it all collapsed."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (5p7BC)
*********
You've been missed.

He was at Camp David for over a week with 16 aides preparing him to debate Trump with a mock stage, practicing standing for 90 minutes and probably all the CNN questions.
That's what is so laughable.

The aides had to have known that it more than likely wasn't going to go well at the debate.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (NpAcC)

128 74 Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June

Congratulations! I am very happy for both of you.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (pZEOD)

129 Also, the time to get on the ballot in Wisconsin and Nevada are now past. If they replace Biden, then those two states will go to Trump by default.

Our opposition is not a political party. It's a crime syndicate. There really are no rules.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (qZEuM)

130 Surprised that , since they said he had a cold, they didn't claim he was on cold medicine that made him drowsy...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (IyPmt)

131 If we are headed for the future of states with the power, them we need to put our best people there. We can't take effective governors or senators out to serve as Vice President. Let them move into Federal service as they are term limited out in the states.

Disagree, at least for now. We need to put state-based pols into the presidency so that they have the chance to implement the changes that they so clearly see need to be done. Vance, DeSantis, Youngkin all fit the bill.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (xCA6C)

132 so who here knows things about red hot chili peppers?

NOT the band, the peppers

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (/7KEl)

133 132 so who here knows things about red hot chili peppers?

NOT the band, the peppers
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:42 PM (/7KEl)

Be careful when you eat them ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:43 PM (IyPmt)

134 The Babylonian Empire fell in one night. Is Trump our Darius?

Posted by: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin at June 30, 2024 12:43 PM (V5BDR)

135 The aides had to have known that it more than likely wasn't going to go well at the debate.

I'm sure they did, but what choice did they have?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:43 PM (xCA6C)

136 You know what that damn Trump is up to now?

Jennifer Gunter
@DrJenGunter
You will also lose many therapies for heavy bleeding and pelvic pain.
You will not get cancer care if you have ovaries and are of reproductive age.

-
HE'S GOING TO DEPRIVE WOMEN WITH CANCER OF TREATMENT!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 30, 2024 12:43 PM (L/fGl)

137 They let an elderly guy with cold go out and meet other people?

Isn't that a criminal act in these post COVID fays?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:43 PM (ImxiA)

138 >The aides had to have known that it more than likely wasn't going to go well at the debate.

by then it was too late
roll the old man out there and see what happens

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:44 PM (/7KEl)

139 Putting aside the insanity, why does it have to be Republicans? Why not Putin directly?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:36 PM (5p7BC)

Because Republican do Putin's bidding directly!

Mueller and his team as much as said so!

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 12:44 PM (j4U/Z)

140 I am constantly asking now
What would Mooch have to do differently than Sundowner does now?

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (fwDg9)

141 specifically, the habenero

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (/7KEl)

142 Joey looked so pleased when he made it to the podium without falling.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (ImxiA)

143 Or this gem (the cannibal part is my favorite):

As Nancy Pelosi pointed out this morning on CNN: (paraphrasing) “Several medical experts say that Trump has dementia”.

Yet, somehow the media has failed to acknowledge Trump’s obvious mental deterioration issues, or to cite his possible dementia, his 34 felony convictions, his public promises to jail—or kill—political opponents—as a clear and present danger to this country. Nor have they, in concert, like their current attacks on Biden, called for Trump to step down.

The republicans’ candidate is a 78 year old psychopath, who frequently and randomly talks about a fictional cannibal, and sharks, and batteries--and promises retribution on his political opponents, media people, etc. and who has openly revealed his plan to set up an Unconstitutional ‘christian’ nationalist theocracy, if elected

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (pZEOD)

144 I suspect there would be an emergency legislative session in WI to put whoever the Dems want on the ballot. There would also be legal challenges, ironically lead by RFK, since he has been denied ballot access in the state (I think).

Nevada they would probably ignore, the Dems are close to writing that state off. But they can't win without WI.

However, Hawaiian judge can't do squat. It is a state law.

We will see, I'm probably 50/50 on whether or not Biden stays in our not. But if he does drop, I think it has to be Harris they run.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (5p7BC)

145 Former democrat Speaker Granny Winebox on the debate - No comment

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 12:46 PM (aFNOf)

146 It’s been a good week. Hold Fast.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 30, 2024 12:47 PM (Aoykm)

147 Only Kamala has a worse laugh than Fran Drescher

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:47 PM (ImxiA)

148 Piper ... I'm already voting for Trump, you don't have to keep selling me on it

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:47 PM (5p7BC)

149 At least Biden has his full professorship at UPenn to fall back on.

Posted by: Pomp AND Circumstance at June 30, 2024 12:47 PM (V5BDR)

150 141 specifically, the habenero
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (/7KEl)

It's hot.. We have one planted and also one Carolina Reaper... Not sure any of us are gonna actually eat that one

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:47 PM (IyPmt)

151 Mark Hemingway
@Heminator
Behold, the most remarkable sentence in the annals of polling.

'President Biden was hurt badly by the debate, but Donald Trump didn’t benefit on any measure, except the vote.'

==

Babylon Bee!

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 12:48 PM (V13WU)

152 145 Former democrat Speaker Granny Winebox on the debate - No comment
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 12:46 PM

Her response was it wasn’t great but Trump has dementia. Truly we live in bizarro world.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:48 PM (pZEOD)

153 If Trump has dementia then what does Joey have?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:48 PM (ImxiA)

154 149 At least Biden has his full professorship at UPenn to fall back on.
Posted by: Pomp AND Circumstance

and golf! He's a 6 handicap you know.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 12:48 PM (aFNOf)

155 >>openly revealed his plan to set up an Unconstitutional ‘christian’ nationalist theocracy, if elected

Do we get capes? I want a cape.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 12:48 PM (LkLld)

156 Also, the time to get on the ballot in Wisconsin and Nevada are now past. If they replace Biden, then those two states will go to Trump by default.

Yeah, wanna bet that some Hawaiian judge would say "you can't disenfranchise the people", and make his own rule?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:39 PM (xCA6C)
---

Here in WI, this ballot access issue will go straight to WI Supreme Court which now has a liberal majority.

They won't hesitate to order the new candidate on to the Ballot.

Posted by: WisRich at June 30, 2024 12:48 PM (Qgr0I)

157
The greatest thing about last week is that the great Biden unmasking stepped all over the Supreme Court rulings in the news.

Mobs with placards demanding more federal administrative control hit hardest.

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 12:49 PM (j4U/Z)

158 However, Hawaiian judge can't do squat. It is a state law.

You underestimate us, haole.

Posted by: Judge Leper Colony at June 30, 2024 12:49 PM (xCA6C)

159 74 Update!!!
Hubbymayhem got the job as Wal-Mart truck driver!
Hubbymayhem has all week off!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (4XwPj)
*******
Congratulations!
Start making your honey-do list for the week.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 12:49 PM (NpAcC)

160 "No capes!" - Edna Mode

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:49 PM (ImxiA)

161 153 If Trump has dementia then what does Joey have?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30,

A bad night.

But we are the cultists.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (pZEOD)

162 Here in WI, this ballot access issue will go straight to WI Supreme Court which now has a liberal majority.

They won't hesitate to order the new candidate on to the Ballot.

Correct. Hawaiian judges don't have to reside in Hawaii.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (xCA6C)

163 As Nancy Pelosi pointed out this morning on CNN

-
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Keith Olbermann calls for CNN to "literally" be burned to the ground because CNN moderators didn't do enough to assist the President.
Someone needs to do a wellness check on this man.
"The decision to not fact check any one of those lies by CNN was one of the most immoral decisions in the history of the free press in this country."
"Literally, I am suggesting that at some point tonight, CNN should... go off the air in shame. Fire everybody. Seal off the buildings. Make sure everybody's out and burn the godd*mn place to the ground."

-
I'm not saying you're wrong, Keith, but you're not right for the right reasons.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)

164 well, I'm making burritos today, and I thought I might dice up one habanero pepper into the beef and bean and onions and spices matrix

It would be like one pepper spread out in half a dozen burritos

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (/7KEl)

165 sorry don't mean to threadjack

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:51 PM (/7KEl)

166 Somebody noted on X how bad the government's case was in overturning Chevron.

A fishing company was being charged $700 a day to be regulated by the National Marine Fisheries Service.

Congress never passed a law saying that the NMFS was allowed to charge companies for its "regulatory" services - that was something that NMFS decided to do on its own. (After all, it's easier to extract money from private companies than ask for an appropriation from Congress.)

NMFS can charge whatever it wants, and there is no appealing that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 30, 2024 12:51 PM (uxCna)

167 DeSantis was a Representative before he was Governor. Which position had the most impact?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:51 PM (xjTDL)

168 It would be like one pepper spread out in half a dozen burritos
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (/7KEl)

Should be okay if your guests like hot

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:51 PM (IyPmt)

169 "Kristian Nationalismmmmm" 11!!1

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 12:52 PM (V13WU)

170 The Democrats shouldn't be able to recover from this.

They replace Joe with a younger shinier candidate, the obvious line of attack is: "How can you trust what anyone says about the new candidate?"

The DNC keeps Joe, "Do you really think Joe is running things?"

The calculation pretty much stays the same, whether or not Joe is removed on 25th Amendment grounds. Which, honestly, Beck is right about. Joe should have been out of office 10 minutes after the debate made obvious to world what we've known for the last few years.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 30, 2024 12:52 PM (tT6L1)

171 168 It would be like one pepper spread out in half a dozen burritos
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (/7KEl)

And remove the seeds and wear a glove when dicing.. I learned the hard way that that is a good idea

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (IyPmt)

172 161 153 If Trump has dementia then what does Joey have?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30

Shrinkage.

Posted by: He was in the pool! at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (dg+HA)

173 "We secretly placed habaneros in Joey's ice cream. Let's see if he notices."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (ImxiA)

174 142 Joey looked so pleased when he made it to the podium without falling.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (ImxiA)
----
Yeah, where was the sandbag when you needed one!

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #11 at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (qfLjt)

175 The calculation pretty much stays the same, whether or not Joe is removed on 25th Amendment grounds. Which, honestly, Beck is right about. Joe should have been out of office 10 minutes after the debate made obvious to world what we've known for the last few years.

Dammit, I need more time to prepare. You can't invade Taiwan with a week's notice!

Posted by: Xi Jinping at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (xCA6C)

176 thanks, it's you donna

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (/7KEl)

177 164 well, I'm making burritos today, and I thought I might dice up one habanero pepper into the beef and bean and onions and spices matrix

It would be like one pepper spread out in half a dozen burritos
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024

Deseed it and roast it first. It will be yummy. A habanero is 3xs hotter than a jalapeño, if that helps.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (pZEOD)

178 Not an expert Don, but I think you will be ok if you use the meat of the pepper, but be sure to not use the seeds.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (5p7BC)

179 Yeah, where was the sandbag when you needed one!
Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #11 at June 30, 2024 12:53 PM (qfLjt)

The rest of the evening was one big sandbag

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (IyPmt)

180 Some like it hot.

Posted by: Also porridge at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (dg+HA)

181 Zombie Frank Lautenberg says Howdy!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (63Dwl)

182 At least Biden has his full professorship at UPenn to fall back on.
Posted by: Pomp AND Circumstance

and golf! He's a 6 handicap you know.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Eyewitness Account Wild Joe Biden Golf Story Has America Asking Questions

https://is.gd/aq3mKc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

183 Thanks Dave
I will proceed with caution

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 12:54 PM (/7KEl)

184 "hubs rewatching Oppenheimer and I just really don't like the character as portrayed in the movie."

Interesting. I bought the book when it came out and couldn't finish it because I disliked Oppenheimer so much. And as I understand it the book is supposed to be sympathetic to him.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 30, 2024 12:55 PM (FEVMW)

185 >>NMFS can charge whatever it wants, and there is no appealing that.

Not anymore.

When tallying up Trump's accomplishments it shouldn't be overlooked that had he not won in 2016 and appointed at least moderately conservative justices Roe wouldn't have happened. Fischer wouldn't have happened. Chevron wouldn't have happened.

As hard to believe as it might seem and if you had told me 8 years ago I would be saying this I would called you nuts, Donald Trump is going to go down as one of the most consequential presidents in history.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 12:55 PM (LkLld)

186 142 Joey looked so pleased when he made it to the podium without falling.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:45 PM (ImxiA)
--------------

As soon as I saw him walk out, I thought to myself "oh my, this could get interesting".

Posted by: WisRich at June 30, 2024 12:55 PM (Qgr0I)

187 Congrats to the Mayhems. Enjoy the week.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 12:55 PM (4780s)

188 Pepper meat?

Hey, we've got an idea...

Posted by: Impossible Industries, Inc. at June 30, 2024 12:55 PM (dg+HA)

189 Newsom is tooooo white. So.... reparations !

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 12:56 PM (V13WU)

190 By the way, according to Megyn, someone mentioned the idea of Nikki Haley for VP to DJT Jr. His response: "Dad would be impeached within 10 seconds of being elected with Nikki as his VP."

It appears the PDT camp is under no illusions about what would happen, should PDT chose a VP the Deep State would prefer.

In other words, it appears the PDT camp is thinking along the lines of impeachment insurance. Which probably rules out Rubio or Scott as the VP choice.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (tT6L1)

191 Straight from the ~~horse's~~ donkey's mouth.

Biden Tells Crowd His Debate Performance Somehow "Won Over More Undecided Voters Than Trump"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (L/fGl)

192 >NMFS can charge whatever it wants, and there is no appealing that.
---------
Because NMFS also controls who can, and who can't fish where and when and how much they can catch and to some degree, how much to charge for the catch.

The legality of that is the problem. The side effect is the graft.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)

193 Is there a drug to treat a schadenboner lasting 72 hours?

Posted by: Eeyore at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (1bNHn)

194 Wondering what the Democrats Propaganda Ministry will do tomorrow, new day so forget about Thursday?
Continue hair on fire?
Circle the wagons and rally around Sundowner?

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (fwDg9)

195 104 vmom, why
Posted by: Don Black

In the movie, Oppie tries to poison his teacher (who does that? psycho), cheats on his wife, basically gives his kid away, and is just a selfish a-hole.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (T1rlM)

196 39
'states like Rhode Island elect some local hack from East Cranston to the U.S. Senate while more populous states send arguably more luminary intellects'

You're making the California argument: We have more people so we should have more representation.
But you do; in the House and the Electoral College.

The Senate is supposed to be made up of entities based on unique geographical and cultural identity rather than population.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (roH4R)

197 >>> 6 Being of a skeptical mind, I wonder if the phone locking up has more to do with avoiding radical teachers being recorded.
Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:05 PM (pZEOD)

Yeah, I'm leaning that way too.

...but, overall I'm optimistic that we're seeing the beginning of "things that can't go on forever, don't"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (llON8)

198 OT — The streaming services are trying to ruin sports. I know it’s a tiny niche but I’ve always enjoyed watching the Tour de France bike race. I’ve done a lot of cycling myself so I appreciate what great athletes these guys are…. Anyway I’ve been able to watch it on my basic cable package for years (USA network or on NBC)… starting this year though it’s exclusively on Peacock with only 3 of the 21 stages available on basic cable. I refuse to pay for Peacock in order to see what I used to for free. They’ll greatly diminish their audience…. The NFL did the same thing; they put one playoff game last winter on Peacock.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (xT8gx)

199 Interesting. I bought the book when it came out and couldn't finish it because I disliked Oppenheimer so much. And as I understand it the book is supposed to be sympathetic to him.

I've read the book and seen the movie. The movie wasn't as bad as I expected, at least until the last hour. Oppy's unending Hamlet routine and the 2-dimensional cartoons of those who thought (correctly) that there were Communists in the government spoiled it to some extent. Even Truman was shown as an ignorant yahoo.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (xCA6C)

200 If Joe is going he better get those pardons going for his grifter Family including himself

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (IyPmt)

201 Also he's a commie

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (T1rlM)

202 Don’t know if it's been posted, but the move to prevent cellphones in school has nothing to do with education. My feeling is that the schools don’t want kids videoing what the teachers are doing in the classroom. Have to hide the trans garbage and the DEI garbage.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (eTkTC)

203 My vapid comment of the week:

Soccer has been on nonstop at Casa de Piper for the last week, both in the living room and by the pool. Soccer players are truly the most handsome in the world of sports. It’s kind of weird.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM (QzINz)

204 So does this Chevron ruling mean we're once again allowed to own toilets that actually flush?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:00 PM (dg+HA)

205 198 OT — The streaming services are trying to ruin sports. I know it’s a tiny niche but I’ve always enjoyed watching the Tour de France bike race. I’ve done a lot of cycling myself so I appreciate what great athletes these guys are…. Anyway I’ve been able to watch it on my basic cable package for years (USA network or on NBC)… starting this year though it’s exclusively on Peacock with only 3 of the 21 stages available on basic cable. I refuse to pay for Peacock in order to see what I used to for free. They’ll greatly diminish their audience…. The NFL did the same thing; they put one playoff game last winter on Peacock.

I'm hearing a lot of the Paris Olympics will be on Peacock too

rrrrr

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 30, 2024 01:01 PM (s3qiR)

206 > And as I understand it the book is supposed to be sympathetic to him.

----

I'm reading the book now, and the author indicates that Oppenheimer could be a dick at times, could be generous and helpful and condescending and dismissive and brilliant and a bit of a philanderer

but mostly a brilliant scientist who could be an asshole at times

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:01 PM (/7KEl)

207 Biden Tells Crowd His Debate Performance Somehow "Won Over More Undecided Voters Than Trump"

Then I'm sure you'll be participating in a second debate, right?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 01:02 PM (xCA6C)

208 >>'states like Rhode Island elect some local hack from East Cranston to the U.S. Senate while more populous states send arguably more luminary intellects'

East Cranston? One of Rhode Island's senators lives a couple blocks from me. The other is right across the Bay.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:02 PM (LkLld)

209 193 Is there a drug to treat a schadenboner lasting 72 hours?
Posted by: Eeyore

Pelosicaine

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 01:02 PM (aFNOf)

210 75/ couldn't agree with you more...I continue to be shocked and disappointed with so many Americans who are just ignorant of what a politician's history is....Newsom is slick, and is very good at talking his way out of everything...and he has his propaganda media to cover for him...Mooch would be no better...Let's face it, the D's are not going to give up the WH, so they'll do whatever needs to be done to keep it, and keep their cheat as "discreet" as possible. Bye bye, Joe...

Posted by: Grateful at June 30, 2024 01:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

211 The Frenchy's have themselves a big election starting today.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (aFNOf)

212 Also he's a commie

No, that's a bridge too far. He wasn't a commie, but he also could just be a colossal asshat because, well, he's smarter than everyone else, dammit. (yes, he really was)

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (xCA6C)

213 Soccer players are truly the most handsome in the world of sports. It’s kind of weird.
Posted by: Piper

*raises eyebrow*

Posted by: Rafa Nadal at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (T1rlM)

214 As hard to believe as it might seem and if you had told me 8 years ago I would be saying this I would called you nuts, Donald Trump is going to go down as one of the most consequential presidents in history.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 12:55 PM (LkLld)

Some men are born great; some men achieve greatness through their deeds; some men have greatness thrust upon them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (S6gqv)

215
Internet says Bidens threaten to keep campaign donations if ousted.

Making dropping out more likely; the kitty has to be north of 50 mill.

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (j4U/Z)

216 First of the post-debate polls are starting to hit. One very good polling firm (Atlas Intel) just dropped a 5-way poll with Trump +5.2.

To win the Electoral College, Biden needs about a 3-point national lead.

Back of the envelop, that would be about an 18M vote shift to Trump.

I'm thinking the options are going to be assassination or passing a law to make someone serving time in jail ineligible.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (5p7BC)

217
Pelosicaine

You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Madge at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (dg+HA)

218 The fundraising is going to determine if Joke stays or goes.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 01:05 PM (uRE6U)

219 Good grief! Jill Biden has ZERO say in Joe staying in or out. IDGAF if she knows where bodies are buried. The Deep State, the Democrat Party DGAF what that stupid f’ing bint wants or doesn’t want for her husband. Jill won’t let it happen…….LMAO. One woman is going to stop the left , LMAO

Posted by: JROD at June 30, 2024 01:05 PM (IlL6s)

220 212 as portrayed in the movie, he came across as a commie

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 30, 2024 01:05 PM (T1rlM)

221 Internet says Bidens threaten to keep campaign donations if ousted.

Making dropping out more likely; the kitty has to be north of 50 mill.

Can he really do that? I would think the DNC controls the money.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 01:05 PM (xCA6C)

222 108 Has anyone seen Amy Bishop and Jill Biden in same room?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 12:34 PM (ImxiA)

Has anyone seen Old Joe and a clothing store mannequin in the same room?

Posted by: Gref at June 30, 2024 01:05 PM (5fDan)

223 IMHO, Joe is going into a Nursing Home by the end of the week. We won't be told anything. He will just disappear.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 01:06 PM (VuZH8)

224 I think history shows that Oppenheimer tip-toed up to the line on communism, but never crossed it

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:06 PM (/7KEl)

225 On school phones
Maybe two years ago at o small office a co-worker and me put in a phone locker that we understood the workers were to lock phones in daily. I assume it was chronic they wouldn't do anything without phone in hand. Often wonder if it worked or was abandoned

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 01:06 PM (fwDg9)

226 I'm thinking the options are going to be assassination or passing a law to make someone serving time in jail ineligible.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (5p7BC)

That's what I'm afraid of... Nikki Haley no doubt would get the nod and I will not vote for her.... I'm in CA so I can do that

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 01:06 PM (IyPmt)

227 Dems want to dump Biden because he has a stutter?

Such cruelty

Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2024 01:06 PM (cvZX6)

228 200 If Joe is going he better get those pardons going for his grifter Family including himself
Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM

That's why he's at Camp David.
With writer's cramp.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:06 PM (dg+HA)

229 Wondering what the Democrats Propaganda Ministry will do tomorrow, new day so forget about Thursday?
Continue hair on fire?
Circle the wagons and rally around Sundowner?
Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (fwDg9)
***

In for a penny, in for a pound.
Perhaps the dems will double down. Repeat the lies of Chattanooga, Vindeman, and the suckers and losers. Find "new evidence" that he said all that. Scream louder. Media will back them. Create as much doubt in the minds of the voters as possible.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2024 01:07 PM (W/lyH)

230 They all keep campaign funds

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 01:07 PM (fwDg9)

231 specifically, the habenero
Posted by: Don Black

Open a jar of dill pickles. Hamburger slices, spears, kosher, whatever. Cut one habanero pepper in half. Insert one half of the pepper (seeds too) into jar of pickles and, using a spoon, shove that spicy bitch down as close to halfway in the jar as you can. Put jar in the farthest corner of the fridge for two weeks. After two weeks, you can either thank me or swear at me!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 01:07 PM (4XwPj)

232 If you too believe in the importance of states in cultural and political matters and think you need to move, check out Ascend West Virginia. Just heard about their program where if you have a remote work job and if you move to one of 5 places in the state, they will give you $10,000 in year one and $2,000 in year two. Areas include: New River Gorge, Greenbrier Valley, Morgantown, Eastern Panhandle, and Greater Elkins.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at June 30, 2024 01:07 PM (zudum)

233 Then, the "Torriccelli Gambit."

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 01:08 PM (VuZH8)

234 219 Good grief! Jill Biden has ZERO say in Joe staying in or out. IDGAF if she knows where bodies are buried. The Deep State, the Democrat Party DGAF what that stupid f’ing bint wants or doesn’t want for her husband. Jill won’t let it happen…….LMAO. One woman is going to stop the left , LMAO
Posted by: JROD at June 30, 2024 01:05 PM

But she's a doctor.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:08 PM (dg+HA)

235 I could be wrong, but I don't think invoking the 25th Amendment helps the Dems with their candidate problem. The primary votes were cast for Joe Biden, not for "the current POTUS." Even if they oust him as Prez, he's still got the nomination unless HE voluntarily withdraws. For the same reason, I don't think Kamala succeeds to the nomination--just to the presidency for the remainder of the term.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 30, 2024 01:08 PM (FEVMW)

236 Carmelized figs in brown butter sauce over homemade ravioli. Yummy.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at June 30, 2024 01:09 PM (eTkTC)

237 >>> 163 As Nancy Pelosi pointed out this morning on CNN

-
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Keith Olbermann calls for CNN to "literally" be burned to the ground because CNN moderators didn't do enough to assist the President.
Someone needs to do a wellness check on this man.
"The decision to not fact check any one of those lies by CNN was one of the most immoral decisions in the history of the free press in this country."
"Literally, I am suggesting that at some point tonight, CNN should... go off the air in shame. Fire everybody. Seal off the buildings. Make sure everybody's out and burn the godd*mn place to the ground."

-
I'm not saying you're wrong, Keith, but you're not right for the right reasons.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 30, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)

For starters, "Make sure everybody's out"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:09 PM (llON8)

238 >Put jar in the farthest corner of the fridge for two weeks. After two weeks, you can either thank me or swear at me!
---

I gather this procedure is meant to tame the pepper's powers of heat?

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:09 PM (/7KEl)

239 Carmelized figs in brown butter sauce over homemade ravioli. Yummy.

What time should I get there?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 01:09 PM (xCA6C)

240 32 We've got Gavin Newsom waiting in the wings to make America California.
Posted by: redridinghood
=====
Newsom has no demonstrated appeal to minorities and Kamala is already pissed about not be considered for top of the Biden replacements. She is the only one that can actually use Biden raised campaign funds if Biden drops out.

If Biden is replaced, we shall have to sit back and wait for the DNC's Red Wedding to figure out who. The Dems are just as divided into factions without a dominant figure as the GOP is and it takes time to make the political deals between factions so that open civil war does not break out.

Mooch might be able to get the nod from everyone but no clear indication she wants to do so nor that she would win.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:09 PM (/0X3E)

241 Some men are born great; some men achieve greatness through their deeds; some men have greatness thrust upon them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (S6gqv)

Trump is in the last category, no?

I did not think of Trump as great until circa end of 2023…. As the deep state persecution took off, he’s definitely risen to the occasion. Lots of lesser men would’ve folded. I’m surprised when I think about it honestly

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 01:10 PM (xT8gx)

242 Even with all of the efforts, I still haven't seen a really good explanation of what the Chevron Ruling did, possibly because no one realizes how bad the system we've been living with was.

The Chevron Precedent had said that NOT ONLY did Federal Agencies have the right to interpret Congressional Statutes any way that they saw fit, but ALSO that as a citizen, you had NO RIGHT to challenge them in any Federal Court for doing so, even if it was a horrible interpretation!

So the ruling this week doesn't change any actual interpretations of anything, but it DOES allow you to finally go to a Court and sue and get a Judge to decide if the Agency's interpretation was rational and in keeping with the actual law. We have not had that right for 40 years.
(and this is why the crying about how terrible a decision this is is so pathetic and hollow)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:10 PM (S6gqv)

243 235 I could be wrong, but I don't think invoking the 25th Amendment helps the Dems with their candidate problem. The primary votes were cast for Joe Biden, not for "the current POTUS." Even if they oust him as Prez, he's still got the nomination unless HE voluntarily withdraws. For the same reason, I don't think Kamala succeeds to the nomination--just to the presidency for the remainder of the term.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey
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25th Amendment removal of Biden even temporarily would make Kamala the Dem nominee by default as she would be the acting president unless Biden actually resigned. Then she would be the president and needing to fill the vacant VP position.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:11 PM (/0X3E)

244 A white pizza with fig, proscuitto and a white truffle drizzle.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 01:11 PM (uRE6U)

245 (and this is why the crying about how terrible a decision this is is so pathetic and hollow)

One wonders how the Federal government ever functioned prior to 1984, if Chevron deference was so critical to the functioning of the government.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 30, 2024 01:12 PM (uxCna)

246 It would be like one pepper spread out in half a dozen burritos
Posted by: Don Black

Half of one habenero would probably be enough. Wear latex gloves when you chop them or you could wind up with "burns" on your hands.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 01:12 PM (4XwPj)

247
It's like the final scene of Götterdämmerung. Joe and the family retreat to Valhalla - sorry, Camp David. As it goes up in flames, the Rheintrump grabs the golden ring. Curtain. Applause.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 30, 2024 01:13 PM (1Nxff)

248 So does this Chevron ruling mean we're once again allowed to own toilets that actually flush?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:00 PM (dg+HA)

Heh.
Have seen a lot of toilets in the back of trucks coming down from BC.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2024 01:13 PM (W/lyH)

249 I did not think of Trump as great until circa end of 2023…. As the deep state persecution took off, he’s definitely risen to the occasion. Lots of lesser men would’ve folded. I’m surprised when I think about it honestly
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 01:10 PM (xT8gx)

In a rational timeline, Trump would have continued to be a wealthy hotel owner and reality TV star, and would never have seen any need to get involved in politics. But then the Republican Party committed suicide, and the Democrats went completely insane.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:13 PM (S6gqv)

250 madam, that's what I was thinking

half of one pepper, and see how it goes

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:14 PM (/7KEl)

251
Former democrat Speaker Granny Winebox on the debate - No comment
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 30, 2024 12:46 PM

Her response was it wasn’t great but Trump has dementia. Truly we live in bizarro world.
Posted by: Piper

She was not outraged that Trump pinned the absence of National Guard troops at The Capitol on her? I find that hard to believe.

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 30, 2024 01:14 PM (xG4kz)

252 The most surprising thing about Chevron to me: That 1984 decision came from the mind of Antonin Scalia IIRC. Wow! Goes to show you even the greats can have a bad day or two…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 01:14 PM (xT8gx)

253 They are boarding up windows in France in anticipation of the riots after Le Pen's party wins today.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:15 PM (5p7BC)

254 >>> 240
=====
Newsom has no demonstrated appeal to minorities and Kamala is already pissed about not be considered for top of the Biden replacements. She is the only one that can actually use Biden raised campaign funds if Biden drops out.

If Biden is replaced, we shall have to sit back and wait for the DNC's Red Wedding to figure out who. The Dems are just as divided into factions without a dominant figure as the GOP is and it takes time to make the political deals between factions so that open civil war does not break out.

Mooch might be able to get the nod from everyone but no clear indication she wants to do so nor that she would win.
Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:09 PM (/0X3E)

I'm already looking forward to the (D) clusterfck if or when Brandon is pushed off the cliff, you don't have to sell it to me.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:16 PM (llON8)

255 253 They are boarding up windows in France in anticipation of the riots after Le Pen's party wins today.

drama reines over there

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 30, 2024 01:16 PM (s3qiR)

256 253 They are boarding up windows in France...

I think that's called Wednesday.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:17 PM (dg+HA)

257 So the ruling this week doesn't change any actual interpretations of anything, but it DOES allow you to finally go to a Court and sue and get a Judge to decide if the Agency's interpretation was rational and in keeping with the actual law. We have not had that right for 40 years.
(and this is why the crying about how terrible a decision this is is so pathetic and hollow)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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That is not quite accurate. Chevron carved out a deference to agencies regarding how the agency carried out its mission. In theory, not in actuality, it meant that agency interpretations of its own authorizing statutes would be presumptively correct. Not all agency actions that were clearly beyond the authorizing statutes were allowed but it was a situation where it created unpredictable actions by the courts where some agency idiocies like the EPA declaring carbon dioxide as a pollutant to be allowed.

Scotus has been chipping away at Chevron for about a decade and ironically most of the Chevron deference dealt with agency authorizing statutes written before Chevron when the administrative state was not a big political issue. Took Reagan to do that.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:17 PM (/0X3E)

258 In Joe's defense, in his family sex with "brothers and sisters and in-laws" is apparently quite common.

A Politico "journalist" wrote that the debate was good for Biden "except for with the voters", which sounds like an admission that the cheat is on.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2024 01:17 PM (FD5dr)

259 >>> 245
==
One wonders how the Federal government ever functioned prior to 1984, if Chevron deference was so critical to the functioning of the government.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 30, 2024 01:12 PM (uxCna)

There's a meme to the effect that the US had schools, roads and all sorts of cool things long before we had an income tax.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:18 PM (llON8)

260 65 Fig and goat cheese ice cream is also yummy, if you have an ice cream maker.
Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:23 PM (pZEOD)

YUM!

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 01:18 PM (NHMTR)

261 Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom
(From Meet the Press today)

@DougBurgum: The biggest lie that has been foisted on the American public was seen on Thursday night. People can't unsee what they saw.

Two weeks ago, the White House was attacking journalists, including your friends, saying, "No, you can't say these stories about the Joe Biden isn't search isn't capable of serving right now." Then all of America saw, and you know, who else saw? Our adversaries saw it.

tinyurl.com/4zthvvtc

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

262 It's like the final scene of Götterdämmerung. Joe and the family retreat to Valhalla - sorry, Camp David. As it goes up in flames, the Rheintrump grabs the golden ring. Curtain. Applause.

I think you mean they'll be in the BidenBunker under the WH, ranting about Steiner.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 01:19 PM (xCA6C)

263 I gather this procedure is meant to tame the pepper's powers of heat?
Posted by: Don Black

Ummmm... No. It makes your pickles hotter than hammered hell!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 01:19 PM (4XwPj)

264 So the ruling this week doesn't change any actual interpretations of anything, but it DOES allow you to finally go to a Court and sue and get a Judge to decide if the Agency's interpretation was rational and in keeping with the actual law. We have not had that right for 40 years.
(and this is why the crying about how terrible a decision this is is so pathetic and hollow)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:10 PM (S6gqv)
***

This.
It's going to take 20 years of court cases to start changing how agencies do things, but overall, this is a huge ruling.
I for one tore the tags off my mattress!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2024 01:20 PM (W/lyH)

265 At some point all powerful and seemingly unbeatable groups fall. Nothing lasts forever and sometimes those that seem the most powerful fall the fastest. The Soviet Union was unbreakable until it shattered in what seemed like an instant.

Newsom, Whitmer, Big Mike, none of them are riding to save the day. Newsom couldn't even manage a softball debate with DeSantis, he melted as fast as Joe. Whitmer is as likable as a rattle snake and Big Mike is a media creation.

Don't look now but we are winning and getting stronger. Pedal down and run through the tape in November.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:20 PM (LkLld)

266 >>> 253 They are boarding up windows in France in anticipation of the riots after Le Pen's party wins today.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:15 PM (5p7BC)

Hmm, who is expected to riot, "white Christian nationalists" or the local klantifa? are pallets full of bricks mysteriously appearing on city sidewalks?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:20 PM (llON8)

267 They are boarding up windows in France in anticipation of the riots after Le Pen's party wins today.

In France, or in Paris? Big difference.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 30, 2024 01:20 PM (xCA6C)

268 Can he really do that? I would think the DNC controls the money.
Posted by: Archimedes
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For a large chunk of it yes. Remember, he isn't the nominee yet, so the money donated has been to his campaign. He doesn't have to turn it over to anyone.

And remember, the Fani Willis precedent says he can just spend it on vacations if he wants (eye roll)

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:21 PM (5p7BC)

269
I think those anticipating that FJB will bow out hugely underestimate the fierceness with which D'Jill will resist the idea. Who else in the Biden crime family carries sufficient pull with FJB, whose regard for anybody else in the family -- 'cepting the Sainted Beau, of course -- is nil, to overcome her avarice?

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 30, 2024 01:21 PM (xG4kz)

270 Probably Paris, to be fair.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:21 PM (5p7BC)

271 Peter Piper picked a peck of hammered Hell pickles...

Posted by: Ok, it needs work... at June 30, 2024 01:21 PM (dg+HA)

272 I tried watching the U.S. Open (golf) on NBC. My antenna does not pick it up from 70 miles away. I tried to get it from nbcsports.com. No can do. Assholes want me to have a cable provider. Uh, if I had a cable provider, why would I want it streaming?

CBS Sports does it right.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 01:21 PM (VuZH8)

273 I'm already looking forward to the (D) clusterfck if or when Brandon is pushed off the cliff, you don't have to sell it to me.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
=====
Apparently, if we trust any media stories, Kamala is already butthurt about attempts to bypass her. Trying to put a white male like Grewsome in front of her and she just might not take it kindly. Then there is the white woman Hillarybot faction wanting a white woman on top. For a variety of reasons, it is much more difficult to pull a Torricelli because you have 50 different states ballot laws involved and Scotus and the feds are unlikely to come to the rescue in time to ensure ballot access in every state.

Heritage, for a change, is already ginned up to oppose in court any attempts to abort existing campaign laws in the states via the courts.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:22 PM (/0X3E)

274 And now I am getting a lecture on how the Swiss team beat Italy because the Swiss bought their team with immigrants. And something about Spain and tourism, with Spain being stupid about crushing their economy. I thought we were watching soccer. I should look up and say “Sir, this is a Burger King”.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 01:22 PM (pZEOD)

275 Trump is no different from any other MAGA Extremist in the room, he is disloyal and will cause inflation with tax cuts I tried to run the this country properly, by the Marxist book, but the MAGA Crowd fought me at every turn. The MAGA crowd wants to keep dirty polluting Fossil Fuel Cars, that's all right, let them fuel Global Warming. Take the War in Ukraine, defective Trump Policy, no more, no less. But they encouraged the country to go around scoffing at me, and spreading wild rumors about Dementia, and then old yellow-strain. I was to blame for Trump's incompetence and poor Leadership. Trump was the perfect POTUS, but not President Biden. Ah, but the strawberries, that's, that's where I had them, they laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the Oval Office icebox did exist, and I've had produced that key if they hadn't sabotage me at the rigged debate. I know now they were only trying to protect some low life MAGA supporter in my Oval Office. Naturally, I can only cover these things from my brain dead memory because Trump is Stealing My Precious Bodily Fluids through Tainted Ice Cream. Trumped lied !

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2024 01:22 PM (hbjSA)

276 for those who wonder about the 25th amendment process - I looked into it in depth when Democrats were talking about it when Trump was in office, and it is actually *easier* - meaning it takes less votes and less time - to Impeach a President than it does to 25th Amendment him out. For starters, the VP has to lead the movement, and call for it in Congress, and a majority of the sitting Cabinet members have to agree.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:22 PM (S6gqv)

277 74 Update!!!

Hubbymayhem got the job as Wal-Mart truck driver!
We got a bunch of ditches filled in with dirt yesterday and today we are getting rid of an old water spigot that has become a mowing dammit.
The garden center where we get fill dirt is closed today so we will have to do the rest this week. Hubbymayhem has all week off!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (4XwPj)

Great news!

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 01:23 PM (NHMTR)

278 I'm near a decade younger than Joey, and move far better. Have golfed, badly, all my life. At this stage, I'd put NY handicap at near 30 plus a stroke for every degree over 80. Six? YGTBKM.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 01:23 PM (4780s)

279 In the movie, Oppie tries to poison his teacher (who does that? psycho), cheats on his wife, basically gives his kid away, and is just a selfish a-hole.
Posted by: vmom

I thought he was a commie... now I see he was a run of the mill lib/dem.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 30, 2024 01:23 PM (07kHz)

280
I think those anticipating that FJB will bow out hugely underestimate the fierceness with which D'Jill will resist the idea. Who else in the Biden crime family carries sufficient pull with FJB, whose regard for anybody else in the family -- 'cepting the Sainted Beau, of course -- is nil, to counteract her avarice?

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 30, 2024 01:24 PM (xG4kz)

281 I think those anticipating that FJB will bow out hugely underestimate the fierceness with which D'Jill will resist the idea. Who else in the Biden crime family carries sufficient pull with FJB, whose regard for anybody else in the family -- 'cepting the Sainted Beau, of course -- is nil, to overcome her avarice?

Right. She's modeled her entire life around attaching herself to Joe so he could become President and she could wear the pelts of sofas. She's never gonna give that up.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2024 01:24 PM (FD5dr)

282 Oh, and you're all such wusses with the habaneros.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 01:25 PM (4780s)

283
*Ah, but the strawberries, that's, that's where I had them, they laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the Oval Office icebox did exist, and I've had produced that key if they hadn't sabotage me at the rigged debate.*

Bravo!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:26 PM (dg+HA)

284 74 Update!!!

Hubbymayhem got the job as Wal-Mart truck driver!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 12:25 PM (4XwPj)

A truckers dream job. Congratulations.

Posted by: javems at June 30, 2024 01:26 PM (8I4hW)

285 Is there a drug to treat a schadenboner lasting 72 hours?
Posted by: Eeyore at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (1bNHn)

Say "Admiral Ackbar" three times.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 30, 2024 01:27 PM (0eaVi)

286 216
I'm thinking ....... or passing a law to make someone serving time in jail ineligible.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (5p7BC)
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Wouldn't that require a Constitutional Amendment?

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #13 at June 30, 2024 01:27 PM (qfLjt)

287 I think those anticipating that FJB will bow out hugely underestimate the fierceness with which D'Jill will resist the idea. Who else in the Biden crime family carries sufficient pull with FJB, whose regard for anybody else in the family -- 'cepting the Sainted Beau, of course -- is nil, to counteract her avarice?
Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 30, 2024 01:24 PM (xG4kz)
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Wouldn't be funny that one of the pardon's for the Biden crime family is Jill herself.

Everybody would be like: "wait what!"

Posted by: WisRich at June 30, 2024 01:28 PM (Qgr0I)

288 And the Supreme Court also ruled this week in Jarkesy, when the SEC charges one with fraud and wants a monetary fine, they can no longer rely on the SEC administrative law judges to support that, you now have the right to insist on a jury trial. Imagine that!

Posted by: Grateful at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

289 >>> 286 216
I'm thinking ....... or passing a law to make someone serving time in jail ineligible.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 01:04 PM (5p7BC)
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Wouldn't that require a Constitutional Amendment?
Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #13 at June 30, 2024 01:27 PM (qfLjt)

HA HA HA HA HA!

I sentence you to 30 day in jail for contempt of court.

Posted by: Judge Merchan, I am da law at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (llON8)

290 One of our creative horde brethren or sisteren came up with a great name for the alleged first lady:

Cruella de Jill

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (dg+HA)

291 All weaned to wrap this debate up is a bunker, a midnight wedding, a couch, and two Jerry cans of petrol.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (a1415)

292 johnny maga
@_johnnymaga

Biden 2020 voter Bill Kristol says Biden has a “health issue” and shouldn’t get 4 more years as president

The rats are fleeing the sinking ship

tinyurl.com/28benv6s

Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (NpAcC)

293 weaned=we need

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (a1415)

294 Oh, and you're all such wusses with the habaneros.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 01:25 PM (4780s)

Habaneros are nothing; please… check out my ghost pepper challenge on my vlog

Posted by: Adam Richman Man Vs Food at June 30, 2024 01:30 PM (xT8gx)

295 > In the movie, Oppie tries to poison his teacher (who does that? psycho),
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in the book, that incident 'maybe it happened, maybe it didn't'

might be anecdotal, could be apocryphal

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:30 PM (/7KEl)

296 Is there a drug to treat a schadenboner lasting 72 hours?
Posted by: Eeyore at June 30, 2024 12:58 PM (1bNHn)

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A picture of Helen Thomas is better than pills.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #14 at June 30, 2024 01:30 PM (qfLjt)

297 One wonders how the Federal government ever functioned prior to 1984, if Chevron deference was so critical to the functioning of the government.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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The Chevron issue was mainly related to power grabs by an agency that were inconsistent with its actual authorizing statutes. It treated agency interpretative rules as presumptively correct (subject to rebuttal) when challenged in court whereas the actual APA (administrative practices act) text required no such judicial deferral to agency interpretations of statutes and guidance legislation.

The whole Chevron decision actually dealt with a Reagan era rule allowing the EPA to treat an entire plant as a stationary source for pollutants (Clean Air Act) rather than each individual component of something like a refinery complex.

Not that big of a deal but Chevron essentially allowed district judges to abrogate disfavored citizen and interest group complaints in favor of agencies which is distinctly opposite of what the APA's intent was. The APA was passed in 1946 to rectify the reckless attitude of FDR era agencies to literally invent the justification on the spot and ignore courts and citizens.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:30 PM (/0X3E)

298 >>> 288 And the Supreme Court also ruled this week in Jarkesy, when the SEC charges one with fraud and wants a monetary fine, they can no longer rely on the SEC administrative law judges to support that, you now have the right to insist on a jury trial. Imagine that!
Posted by: Grateful at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

Appoint more Justices! The Constitution is un-Constitutional!

REEEEEEE!!!

Posted by: leftists at June 30, 2024 01:30 PM (llON8)

299
Dems want to dump Biden because he has a stutter?

Such cruelty
Posted by: blaster

It's far crueler than that -- he had a COLD!

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 30, 2024 01:31 PM (xG4kz)

300 Hubbymayhem got the job as Wal-Mart truck driver!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Great news, congrats to him (and you of course, you get to spend his earnings)!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 30, 2024 01:31 PM (07kHz)

301
So does this Chevron ruling mean we're once again allowed to own toilets that actually flush?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

No. The ratchet only turns one way.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 30, 2024 01:31 PM (63Dwl)

302 292 johnny maga
@_johnnymaga

Biden 2020 voter Bill Kristol says Biden has a “health issue” and shouldn’t get 4 more years as president

The rats are fleeing the sinking ship

tinyurl.com/28benv6s
Posted by: redridinghood at June 30, 2024 01:29 PM (NpAcC)

This is hilarious - Bill Kristol finally starts to realize "hey, maybe I picked the wrong team..."

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:33 PM (S6gqv)

303 >Oh, and you're all such wusses with the habaneros.

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lemme guess
you put them on your Cheerios

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:33 PM (/7KEl)

304
Soccer players are truly the most handsome in the world of sports. It’s kind of weird.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 12:59 PM

Never ask my wife about legs on men. I mean what woman talks about them? But she will go on a rave about my legs. Other women will say 'So and so has chicken legs but your husband? OMG."

I've become very attached to them myself.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)

305 Is there a drug to treat a schadenboner lasting 72 hours?
Posted by: Eeyore

I'd use the video circulating of Jill praising Brandon the morning after.
N.B. Watch it too often my have a longer lasting effect than you would like...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 30, 2024 01:35 PM (07kHz)

306 There is an "interview" out there in point of order, where the "It was The Ny-Quil, Guys" explanation of his poor debate performance. seriously

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:35 PM (UvJyL)

307 Don’t know if it's been posted, but the move to prevent cellphones in school has nothing to do with education. My feeling is that the schools don’t want kids videoing what the teachers are doing in the classroom. Have to hide the trans garbage and the DEI garbage.

==

yep, great point

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 01:35 PM (V13WU)

308 Cruella de Jill

I am stealing that.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 01:35 PM (VuZH8)

309 One of the best tweets of the week was from Kurt Schlichter: "This has been the worst week for Democrats since Appomattox."

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:35 PM (S6gqv)

310 Our pup came back from Gaza. He did a show & tell at home for Mrs. BD and myself today. He flew one of these around the house, while the Mrs. and I donned the goggles:

https://tinyurl.com/3km34y73

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:36 PM (ilFrm)

311
Never ask my wife about legs on men. I mean what woman talks about them? But she will go on a rave about my legs.

I initially thought that this was going to be a parody take on FJB's hairy legs.

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 30, 2024 01:36 PM (xG4kz)

312 288 And the Supreme Court also ruled this week in Jarkesy, when the SEC charges one with fraud and wants a monetary fine, they can no longer rely on the SEC administrative law judges to support that, you now have the right to insist on a jury trial. Imagine that!
Posted by: Grateful
======
Constitutional governance requires administrative agencies to be subordinate to the three constitutional branches and to the Constitution itself. The administrators have forgotten that.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:36 PM (/0X3E)

313 One of the best tweets of the week was from Kurt Schlichter: "This has been the worst week for Democrats since Appomattox."

That's a nice polish on the older joke "The Democrats haven't been this angry since Lincoln freed their slaves".

Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2024 01:37 PM (FD5dr)

314 Georgia beat Portugal. In the world of soccer that is a VBD!

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 01:37 PM (V13WU)

315 305 Is there a drug to treat a schadenboner lasting 72 hours?
Posted by: Eeyore

"Bailiff, whack his peepee!"
(for those who remember the Golden Age of Cheech and Chong)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:37 PM (S6gqv)

316 Pretty sure ghosts are just a (really hot) haha hero variety.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 01:37 PM (4780s)

317 >>> 316 Pretty sure ghosts are just a (really hot) haha hero variety.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 01:37 PM (4780s)

*smirks*

Posted by: autocucmber at June 30, 2024 01:38 PM (llON8)

318 310 Our pup came back from Gaza. He did a show & tell at home for Mrs. BD and myself today. He flew one of these around the house, while the Mrs. and I donned the goggles:

https://tinyurl.com/3km34y73
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:36 PM (ilFrm)

I'm sure that was quite a joy to see him. Amazing little gadget.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:38 PM (S6gqv)

319 There's over 10million illegals in this country. Prolly closer to 20 million.

They will be voting.

Game over.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 01:39 PM (6+bWn)

320 Do not trust autocorrect

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:39 PM (/7KEl)

321 304
Women are into thighs, thunder-thighs in particular. Rugby players in huge advantage though I think ice-hockey players win.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #15 at June 30, 2024 01:40 PM (qfLjt)

322 "When Did the Democrats Know Joe was Unfit" is kind of the question. Weren't the tapes or transcripts still being with held from the Tur counsel report?

Because he was a vegetable in 2023 at times, right? So how is he fit to lead now? He isn't fit to last 4 more years, or even run for re-election.

Democrats are famous for shitting in their mess kit, but this is a real doozy. I noticed a lot more people praying now, I'm feeling it too.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:40 PM (UvJyL)

323 I find it amusing/sad that it took a televised debate to cast some sort of doubt about *biden's health. Just a week ago we were being told all the videos of him stumbling, mumbling and glitching were "cheap fakes."

Where's the outrage at the press/media over this? I get that *biden's a disaster, but the media helped foster a false (fake) image of the vegetable.

All I've seen over the last couple days is talk about removing *biden from the ticket. Not a goddamn bit of introspection from the media... which I expect, but the public ought to be livid with them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 01:40 PM (Q4IgG)

324 >>I could be wrong, but I don't think invoking the 25th Amendment helps the Dems with their candidate problem. The primary votes were cast for Joe Biden, not for "the current POTUS." Even if they oust him as Prez, he's still got the nomination unless HE voluntarily withdraws. For the same reason, I don't think Kamala succeeds to the nomination--just to the presidency for the remainder of the term.

Funny, amidst all the media/Democrat consultant chatter since Thursday night, not one I've heard or read acknowledged this -- it's all "we must replace him!!"

Now, we all know the Democrats make these decisions in backrooms while pretending the primary voters made the decision (see Bernie voter class action lawsuit in 2016). Interesting to me that they don't even bother pretending right now.

All while insisting Our Democracy(tm) is a sacred, precious thing that the Christin Nationalists/Trump/GOP are trying to destroy. Look in the mirror, jerks.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 01:40 PM (+oRno)

325 >>> 319 There's over 10million illegals in this country. Prolly closer to 20 million.

They will be voting.

Game over.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 01:39 PM (6+bWn)

That's a lot of voters, or ballots, whichever the commies want.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:40 PM (llON8)

326 Oh, and you're all such wusses with the habaneros.
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lemme guess
you put them on your Cheerios
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 01:33 PM (/7KEl)
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I love hot peppers. But the Carolina Reaper spiked vodka my friend let me taste a few months ago was more of a firewater than any Hekawi Indian ever tasted!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:41 PM (ilFrm)

327 I love hot peppers. But the Carolina Reaper spiked vodka my friend let me taste a few months ago was more of a firewater than any Hekawi Indian ever tasted!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:41 PM (ilFr

We have one of those peppers in our garden.. I'm thinking none of us are stupid, I mean brave enough to try it

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 01:42 PM (IyPmt)

328 LOL.

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
Why do people say Michelle Obama might step in but they never say Jill Biden?

I mean, Michelle Obama never ran a country for 3.5 years.

Jill Biden is the experienced one. Is she being passed over for some kind of DEI reason?

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 30, 2024 01:42 PM (ZdexC)

329 307 Don’t know if it's been posted, but the move to prevent cellphones in school has nothing to do with education. My feeling is that the schools don’t want kids videoing what the teachers are doing in the classroom. Have to hide the trans garbage and the DEI garbage.

=============
Its is actually a bit of both. Too many students are entranced by social media, texting other students, etc. and simply are not "there" in the classroom when they have access to their phones.

That includes college as well btw.

It is a serious issue that should be addressed at the local level so that the costs and the benefits can be measured up by the parents of students attending those schools.

Posted by: whig at June 30, 2024 01:43 PM (/0X3E)

330 I make a relish out of a variety of hot peppers, cherries as a base, the usually problanos, jalepenos, and habeaneros, including Carolina and ghosts. 40-20-20-20.
Put spoonfuls of that into most anything with meat.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 01:43 PM (4780s)

331 I'm sure that was quite a joy to see him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:38 PM (S6gqv)
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Always grateful. He goes back and forth more than many others who remain in Gaza for much greater lengths.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:44 PM (ilFrm)

332 Cruella de Jill

I am stealing that.
Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 01:35 PM (VuZH

Everybody should. It's that good. Thanks, Wolfus.
I plan to put it on a whiteboard sign tomorrow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 30, 2024 01:44 PM (oUxZc)

333
At this point I'd flip a coin and have either Beavis or Butthead be president.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 01:45 PM (RKVpM)

334 Remember, these are people who in most cases don't know how anything works. "Just swap out the candidate, what's the problem?" is their problem. They have to explain all this shit.

I really found it notable that these discussions were going on 6 months to a year ago easily, and both hard core liberals and conservatives on different forum discussions were agreed on this point. They are stuck with this dumpster fire. This is the only point I've seen in agreement. I didn't understand it then, but I sure am getting the flavor of it now. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:45 PM (UvJyL)

335 The Babylon Bee has acquired the short list:
Top 10 Candidates Democrats Are Considering To Replace Joe Biden
https://shorturl.at/ac92V

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:46 PM (llON8)

336 Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 30, 2024 01:42 PM (ZdexC)
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I'm a big Scott Adams fan. He's not always right and I don't nod my head in agreement with everything he says. But he's smart, whether you like him or not.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:46 PM (ilFrm)

337 >>Where's the outrage at the press/media over this? I get that *biden's a disaster, but the media helped foster a false (fake) image of the vegetable.

On Friday, the WSJ ran an excerpt in their "Notables and Quotables" section of a Monday NYT story (with three authors - why can't just one person write a story nowadays?) all about the cheap fakes designed to make Biden look old, confused. They were obviously taking a swipe at their competitor for publishing embarrassing propaganda.

The comments online? Could have been AoSHQ. Everyone ridiculed the NYT, wondered what's taken so long for the media to admit the obvious.

The outrage might be there, but I think most readers have moved on from outrage to indifference. See Wash Post's readership - the readers have moved own, not enough interest to be outraged.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 01:46 PM (+oRno)

338 James Clyburn on CNN just this morning insists that he and all Dems are “fully confident” in Biden. He’s one of the party power brokers that engineered Brandon’s win of the nom in 2020…. He’s not gonna admit he was wrong. Just one more indication that ‘ol Joe ain’t going nowhere. Lots of Dems can wish and scream at the sky but nothing really they can do about it. Even Obama was circling the wagons yesterday

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (xT8gx)

339 ha, having fun on twitter. I just had someone take me seriously when I wrote that of course Trump lied at the debate, because he said that Jan 6 wasn't actually as bad as the Battle of Antietam and 9/11 put together.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (S6gqv)

340 If Democrats were confident in their ability to cheat enough to win they wouldn't be having a very public meltdown about Joe.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (LkLld)

341 >>> 339 ha, having fun on twitter. I just had someone take me seriously when I wrote that of course Trump lied at the debate, because he said that Jan 6 wasn't actually as bad as the Battle of Antietam and 9/11 put together.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (S6gqv)

Well duh, it was worse than 9/11 AND the whole Civil war AND the exit from the Paris Accords!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:48 PM (llON8)

342
Cruella de Jill

She's a puppy thief, right? I could use some spares. For science. Trust the science.

Posted by: Doctor F at June 30, 2024 01:49 PM (RKVpM)

343 Donna! No matter what wear latex gloves when chopping hot peppers! That shit can burn your hands.

I can handle serious heat from peppers. It literally doesn't bother me. But people not named mayhem can be very sensitive to those things.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 30, 2024 01:49 PM (4XwPj)

344 I like Melinda's Ghost Pepper Hot Sauce - I use it on almost anything except sweet food. From WalMart. Very hot but that is probably my limit.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #16 at June 30, 2024 01:49 PM (qfLjt)

345 Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (LkLld)

My personal opinion is that this is all a distraction from the D's policies: inflation, war, crime, and open borders.
The nation is talking about Jpe's age, not his policies.
Whichever D becomes prez again one day will have the exact same darn policies.

Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2024 01:50 PM (2O9Sc)

346 I have Carolina Reaper cheese in the frig. Yum.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 30, 2024 01:50 PM (qZEuM)

347 Nobody thought the Democrats wouldn't want to pull the ole switcharoo 4 years ago though, at some point? I guess I'm jaded enough to think everybody thought that. I thought it was painfully obvious.

Is this that time, though. Is this dumpster fire going to Democrat plans?

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:51 PM (UvJyL)

348 The phones in school thing is because the little shits get a call to go pop open an exterior door to let their drug dealer in.

I'm not even exaggerating.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 30, 2024 01:51 PM (BAEGB)

349 If Democrats were confident in their ability to cheat enough to win they wouldn't be having a very public meltdown about Joe.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (LkLld)
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I appreciate your optimism but not all Dems are in on the cheat, nor do those who are in want to deploy it any more than necessary.

Any software driven electronic voting machine or electronic tabulator is hackable.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 30, 2024 01:51 PM (ilFrm)

350 She's a puppy thief, right? I could use some spares. For science. Trust the science.

==

Just shoot them !

Posted by: Gov. Noem at June 30, 2024 01:52 PM (V13WU)

351
I have Carolina Reaper cheese in the frig. Yum.

(Don't fear) the reaper

Posted by: Blue Oyster Cult at June 30, 2024 01:52 PM (RKVpM)

352 304 I've become very attached to them myself.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June

Haha! I am glad you don’t skip leg day! I am partial to shoulders and backs, if this is true confession time. Though a nice set of abs is also….nice. Those Transversus Abdominis (v cut abs) are called sex lines for a reason.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 01:52 PM (pZEOD)

353 Is this that time, though. Is this dumpster fire going to Democrat plans?
Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:51 PM (UvJyL)

Most of the time, dumpster fires are exactly that and nothing more or less. Sometimes everyone sees the iceberg and the ship steers into it at full speed anyways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 01:54 PM (S6gqv)

354 I'm a big Scott Adams fan. He's not always right and I don't nod my head in agreement with everything he says. But he's smart, whether you like him or not.
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I'm about 70:30 with him but plenty of funny stuff to agree with like a shot at DR Jill and Big Mike. both.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 30, 2024 01:54 PM (ZdexC)

355 >>My personal opinion is that this is all a distraction from the D's policies: inflation, war, crime, and open borders.
The nation is talking about Jpe's age, not his policies.
Whichever D becomes prez again one day will have the exact same darn policies.

I agree. But let's not forget that even before the debate, with all the lawfare, the media lies, the constant harassment of Trump and his supporters, Trump was still winning. And that is because of the policies.

They are in a lose lose position right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:54 PM (LkLld)

356 A nice meaty thigh is ... Distracting.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:55 PM (UvJyL)

357 Biden will win by a 300 million vote margin; most of which will be discovered between midnight and 4 am two nights after the election.

Posted by: Who is John Galt ? at June 30, 2024 01:56 PM (9X60i)

358 It is literally too hot to proof bread outside right now. Blech.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 30, 2024 01:56 PM (BAEGB)

359 296
'A picture of Helen Thomas is better than pills.'

Especially, a current picture.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 30, 2024 01:57 PM (roH4R)

360 309 One of the best tweets of the week was from Kurt Schlichter:
"This has been the worst week for Democrats since Appomattox."

Heh.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 30, 2024 01:57 PM (dg+HA)

361 340 If Democrats were confident in their ability to cheat enough to win they wouldn't be having a very public meltdown about Joe.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 01:47 PM (LkLld)

Even if they cheated Joe into office, wouldn't they then have the very serious problem of having Joe in office?

Posted by: Emmie at June 30, 2024 01:57 PM (Sf2cq)

362 >>Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
Why do people say Michelle Obama might step in but they never say Jill Biden?. . .
- - - - -
So I am sick of Obama's wife. Yeah. This isn't some republican rant either. It's just the first lady in general. You know. I don't know what it is. All throughout of my life, which each presidency, like these first ladies. They got more and more like chatty. You know. More and more chiming in. Like leaning into the frame, spitting out there ideas. It's like why are you talking? Right? You weren't even elected. Shut-up. Your husband is not running a lemonade stand, here. He is running the country. You just don't chime in.

Let me guess. It's considered sexist. It is? Why? OK. Let me ask you this. Let say you have a leak in your house. OK. You call the plumber up. He shows up, and he goes, "Yeah, the leaks coming from the upstairs bathroom. We got to shut off the valve." All of a sudden his wife walks in, who isn't a plumber. And she goes, "Yeah, I think it actually coming from the outside." What you be like, "With all due respect, shut the f**k up. I need a plumber in this moment."

Posted by: Bill Burr, in a moment of clarity at June 30, 2024 01:57 PM (+oRno)

363 So this is an engineered thing. They want this to happen? And, have a plan for it? Wargamed it out and every thing.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 01:58 PM (UvJyL)

364 Not only do we have voting season, but counting week as well

Posted by: A dude in MI at June 30, 2024 01:58 PM (/6GbT)

365 115 Heh, I follow an X account called Reddit Lies on X. He does the same thing our Dem Underground reporter does, only in Reddit.

This one is a gem.

"Republicans clearly poisoned Biden before the debate, because that's what Putin does to his enemies."

++++

Still with the Republican poison in his system, Joe and the missus went to the Waffle House.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 30, 2024 01:59 PM (4SnFm)

366 word on the street is if Trump wins, Melania will not be moving into the White House

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 02:00 PM (/7KEl)

367 >>I appreciate your optimism but not all Dems are in on the cheat, nor do those who are in want to deploy it any more than necessary.

The absence of pessimism does not equal optimism. It's just reality.

Joe is bleeding support, from the media, from influential pundits and from ordinary people. Trump's lead is expanding and Joe isn't showing any signs of getting younger and less senile.

We aren't quite North Korea yet. Nobody is going to believe Joe somehow puled off a miraculous win if he is way down in the polls given he can barely complete a coherent sentence. The country would be over. Half the country believes the 2020 election was stolen because it was. What happens when that number gets close 100%?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 02:00 PM (LkLld)

368 Sir, that's noon

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 02:00 PM (/7KEl)

369 He's a superspreader too, right? I mean using their logic. Says he "had a cold" and that's why he was all wacked out. Not so sick though to shake hands with people at the Waffle House. How do they keep all this bullshit straight and expect people not to laugh?

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 02:01 PM (UvJyL)

370 The Democrat faoth9only watch and listen to the Democrats Propaganda Ministry so they all thought Sundowner was fit as a 20yo

NOOD BTW

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 02:01 PM (fwDg9)

371 366 word on the street is if Trump wins, Melania will not be moving into the White House
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 02:00 PM (/7KEl)

She wasn't at the debate so I'm thinking that's true

Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2024 02:02 PM (IyPmt)

372 word on the street is if Trump wins, Melania will not be moving into the White House
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 02:00 PM (/7KEl)

I heard that in 2016, too,. They were wrong before, and I'm not sure how anyone on the street would know that.

Posted by: LASue at June 30, 2024 02:02 PM (Gq9/0)

373 It's not hard to sit in for your husband in his elected office. Trust me.

Posted by: Lurleen B. Wallace at June 30, 2024 02:02 PM (dg+HA)

374 Nood, 1st world.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 30, 2024 02:03 PM (4780s)

375 We aren't quite North Korea yet. Nobody is going to believe Joe somehow puled off a miraculous win if he is way down in the polls given he can barely complete a coherent sentence. The country would be over. Half the country believes the 2020 election was stolen because it was. What happens when that number gets close 100%?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 02:00 PM (LkLld)

There were two things Dems didn't count on - first, Joe was much much worse than they thought he could be - apparently they had all started to believe their own bullshit, a fatal error. Also, Trump was much, much better than they thought he'd be. I wouldn't say it was great, but it was a sold performance; not a home run, but a good triple (to use a baseball metaphor) Most of all, Trump looked calm and in command, unrattled by any of Biden's mad rambling. The contrast was Yuuuuuuge!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 02:04 PM (S6gqv)

376
Haha! I am glad you don’t skip leg day! I am partial to shoulders and backs, if this is true confession time. Though a nice set of abs is also….nice. Those Transversus Abdominis (v cut abs) are called sex lines for a reason.

Posted by: Piper at June 30, 2024 01:52 PM

Hard to skip leg day when three hour soccer practices five days a week.

True story: My daughter went to high school with some hot guy who made it as NY fashion model. I found an issue of a magazine of male NY fashion models while working late one night. He was in it. But the really interesting thing is in the 'stats' of height and weight there was a certain crazy consistency. I later figured it out. Two and one half pounds of weight for every inch of height. I am within seven pounds of that. Those seven pounds will not give it up.

I call it my 'Buddha Belly'. Everything else is good. Why the hell did seven pounds of fat park there?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 02:04 PM (RKVpM)

377
325 >>> 319 There's over 10million illegals in this country. Prolly closer to 20 million.

They will be voting.

Game over.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 01:39 PM (6+bWn)

That's a lot of voters, or ballots, whichever the commies want.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 30, 2024 01:40 PM (llON

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Remember that 11M number that never changed? I've been keeping tabs since the early 2000s. Estimated by now we have had about 65M come in illegally. Don't know how many may have gone back and how many managed to get citizenship.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #17 at June 30, 2024 02:05 PM (qfLjt)

378 States differ and SHOULD differ on more life-or-death issues than abortion.

Should convicted murderers be executed? Some states do, and some don't.

Does a women, threatened with rape but not explicitly threatened with death have the right to use deadly force to defend her body? Some states say "no". Some say otherwise.

If you're threatened in your living room, do you have the duty to retreat from the threat -- into a bedroom, say -- before you can defend your own life? Different states, different laws.

Federal issues should be rare. And arguably, the more important the issue, the more nearly local and customized to the local voters should pertinent laws be.

Posted by: pouncer at June 30, 2024 02:05 PM (9tdGi)

379 "The future of America is in the state houses, not Congress."

That's been true for quite a while. The military is now being paid with deficit borrowing. That's one third of total budget (i.e. roughly in thirds: military, federal bureaucracy, entitlements). In five years borrowing will be used to fund two thirds of total budget. Ten years or less, we become the Wiemar Republic V2.0 with citizens that have no understanding of prior history of powerful countries turning extreme during hard economic times.

Any rational American would eliminate the lion's share of the federal bureaucracy and give states more power.

Posted by: Levin at June 30, 2024 02:10 PM (AMlQI)

380 252 The most surprising thing about Chevron to me: That 1984 decision came from the mind of Antonin Scalia IIRC. Wow! Goes to show you even the greats can have a bad day or two…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 30, 2024 01:14
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Ummm, no.

John Paul Stevens wrote the 6-0 opinion, joined by Burger, Brennan, White, Blackmun, Powell.

Marshall (sick?), Rehnquist (sick?) and O'Connor (recused self) took no part in the decision of the case.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 30, 2024 02:27 PM (hoCmQ)

381 "hubs rewatching Oppenheimer and I just really don't like the character as portrayed in the movie."

vmom, I see your point, though I really like the movie. Oppenheimer was a world-class genius, and a very complex man -- subtle and humorous, and capable of herding the cats at Los Alamos, yet at times amazingly naive. I don't see how any actor, no matter how gifted (and Cillian Murphy is a very good actor) could capture the real Oppenheimer. I haven't read "American Prometheus", but Richard Rhodes' two books on the Bomb ("The Making of the Atomic Bomb" and "Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb") present a rich portrait of Oppenheimer; they are well worth reading.

Posted by: Nemo at June 30, 2024 03:14 PM (S6ArX)

382 Does anyone seriously think Dr! Jill will let the vegetable drop out of the race?

Does Joe get his full POTUS Pension if he quits his job?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 03:19 PM (rHxhM)

383 Any rational American would eliminate the lion's share of the federal bureaucracy ~~and give states more power.~~

I prefer liberty over redistribution of tyrannical power.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 03:23 PM (rHxhM)

384 Our pup came back from Gaza. He did a show & tell at home for Mrs. BD and myself today. He flew one of these around the house, while the Mrs. and I donned the goggles:
https://tinyurl.com/3km34y73
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs...
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And now the CCCP has a pretty good map of the interior of your house.

http://tiny.cc/z63xyz

Posted by: buddhaha at June 30, 2024 06:12 PM (ttjGU)

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