Is This Something?

Kevin Costner's two part (at least!) would-be epic western opens today:

Part one opens today, part two in August. And they're already filming part three in Utah. Costner intends to make it a four parter.

Assuming any of these make money.

Then again, he's largely funding this with his own Mad Stacks of money. Maybe he's willing to do part four even if the first three parts wind up losing him money.

Is it any good? This British reviewer says it is.

Good news! Remember the film everyone keeps begging Hollywood to make? The one that returns to old-fashioned values of layered storytelling and real-world spectacle? Created by a seasoned, impassioned artist rather than a soulless business model?
That goes out of its way to cater to the older audiences typically not that well-served outside of awards season? And in which voguish political agendas are nowhere to be found? That film? Well, someone has finally made it. And the industry is convinced it's going to flop.
Kevin Costner's uber-traditional western epic Horizon: An American Saga canters into cinemas this Friday, following a much-memed premiere last month at Cannes. (It received a seven-minute standing ovation, during which the stoic face of its director and star grew streaked with manly tears.) The film is its director-star's first foray behind the camera in 21 years -- and by all accounts, he was prompted by the success of the contemporary western streaming series Yellowstone, in which he starred until recently, and which in the United States draws more than 12 million regular viewers.
Unfortunately, though, that audience doesn't yet appear to have bought many tickets. According to the latest figures, Horizon is likely to take around $10 million at the US box office on its opening weekend: around a fifth of Bad Boys: Ride or Die's opening a few weeks ago, and two thirds of the gen-Z love triangle tennis drama Challengers. Here in Britain, where westerns are relatively niche, that suggests it is likely to open on the wrong side of the talismanic 1m [pounds] mark.
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Studios are less willing than ever to underwrite big swings, as Costner found to his literal cost. He sunk $38 million of his own money into Horizon, and scared up the rest of its $100 million-plus budget from private investors. That means if it bombs, a lot of spreadsheety types will look back at Hollywood's recent creatively conservative swerve and think to themselves: phew, smart move.

Here's something: While the Indian characters are written with depth and humanity, the film does not resort to liberal virtue signalling about it:

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Horizon's ambling pace and classical perspective were both sticking points at Cannes -- especially when an Apache raid on Frances's township is portrayed as a straightforwardly savage attack, without any of the anti-colonial karmic rib-prodding you might expect in 2024. The film's Native American characters are written and played with as much depth as its white ones, but its lack of overt moral signposting here did feel like an intentional bucking by Costner and his co-writer Jon Baird of current Hollywood mores.
These sorts of choices should intrigue us. But for a younger generation of critics and cinema-goers, who are used to having films' messages spelled out for them, and drawn from an approved list, they can be reason enough to write them off.
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Hollywood take note. On the surface, Costner's film might be a misty-eyed throwback, but it's just the sort of thing that drives cinema forward.

I'm debating whether or not to see it. I like Costner's westerns. I am a big fan of Wyatt Earp, which is an epic about not just Earp and the OK Corral but of all the old west and its various heroes. I think people got hung up on the fact that Costner tried to play Earp as a sixteen year old, and yeah, he was way too old for that, but what are you going to do? He was telling Earp's life story, not just the bit about the Clantons and Cowboys, so he could either cast another actor who looked little like him, or play the young Earp himself.

Did everyone believe the actor with the completely different facial structure playing Clark Kent at 16 suddenly turned in Christopher Reeve playing Clark Kent at 21? No, no one did.

It's a movie. You need a little suspension of disbelief, yeah?

Open Range was good, too.

On the other hand, it's three hours long, and I don't mean part one is 90 minutes and part two is 90 minutes. I mean part one is 181 minutes long.

TJM just linked this: Mark Wahlberg in Flight Risk. Directed by Mel Gibson. I do like a plane thriller. Ooh, Mark Wahlberg is the villain. Plot twist. And he seems to be having a lot of fun with it.

Robert Zmeckis directed another special-effects-heavy drama, again with Tom Hanks. It uses de-aging technology to show the progress of time, with Tom Hanks going from Bosom Buddies age to Joe Biden age.

Eh. I mean, it's a cute gimmick, but what do I care?

How about this one? Is this something?

On one hand, Hugh Grant is really leaning in to what he calls the "Scoundrel Phase" of his career, and he's great at it. I like the girls, I like how they figure out they're in danger (he says there's a pie in the oven, but one girl notices all he's done is lit a blueberry pie scent candle). And the premise is interesting.

But can you trust Hollywood not to make a movie that winds up asking the question, "Sure, this guy is a vicious murderous psychopath, but who's the real lunatic here? The psychopathic killer, or the Christians who believe in God? Hmmm? Hmmmm?!"

I don't really trust it. I don't think that Huge Grant would sign up for a movie like that, but then, I also didn't think that my former favorite Doctor would become a mad proponent of child mutilation, and tell one of the only black women in Parliament to "shut up" because she's sounding notes of caution on experimental trans surgeries.

Here he is accepting an award from the (checks notes) "British LGBT" organization, for the (checks notes) "Best Ally" award.

This is what Pride has become. An elitist white man telling a black woman to "shut up". The actor David Tennant showed us all just how tolerant his tolerance is at the LGBT Awards. #davidtennant #LGBT This is the modern Left. pic.twitter.com/JikvU1EKjO
— Lyn Hurst (@LynHurst20) June 25, 2024

More of pro-child-mutilation zealot David Tennant here.

WTF is wrong with Scotland? And Ireland? And the UK?

They've always been more leftwing and "progressive" than the US, and they've prided (pun intended) themselves on that. So now they see the US going absolutely insane, and they all think, "Wow, if we want to keep virtue signalling as sicker than the US, we've really got to up our game!"

On August 30, Reagan premieres. Dennis Quaid says he supports Trump so maybe this won't be a hatchet job.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:33 PM

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Posted by: GF at June 28, 2024 04:32 PM (BSlKJ)

2 Noodified

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 28, 2024 04:32 PM (O7YUW)

3 I'm feeling that center balance thing going on again.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 28, 2024 04:33 PM (O7YUW)

4 fourth

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2024 04:33 PM (8sMut)

5 why is everything centered?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2024 04:34 PM (8sMut)

6 It's been more than four hours. Should I call a doctor?

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 28, 2024 04:34 PM (VGRuw)

7 Ace, I tried to get this to your attention a couple of days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojC9JBuccJA

Flight Risk, new film directed by Mel Gibson.

I think it's something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

8 Costner playing his "Open Range" character in another movie?

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 04:35 PM (AwYPR)

9 I generally don't like Costner as a director.

Plodding and dull.

Yeah, Open Range is fine, but everything else is way too long and way too uneventful for what actually happens.

He thinks he's John Ford. He's much closer to Michael Cimino.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

10 centralia, PA

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 28, 2024 04:36 PM (gPsAl)

11 Front and center!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at June 28, 2024 04:36 PM (e4lQj)

12 This isn't the center, this is the far right.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 04:37 PM (wyMQY)

13 I haven't seen Costner in anything in theaters since Thirteen Days.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2024 04:37 PM (8sMut)

14 E
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Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2024 04:37 PM (fwDg9)

15 Well, you don't go view a Costner film expecting it to be short... so at least expectations are set in that regard.

Now if it's really that good, the time is worth it and well spent.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 28, 2024 04:37 PM (O7YUW)

16 8 Costner playing his "Open Range" character in another movie?
Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 04:35 PM (AwYPR)

Doesn't Costner only ever play one character?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2024 04:37 PM (8sMut)

17 thanks TJM, i added it

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (KRtlO)

18 I like Kevin Costner but didn't like Dances with Wolves

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (fwDg9)

19 A standing ovation at Cannes is usually a red flag for me, but I'll give Costner some slack. I like most of what he has done and will see this. He does westerns well.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (W/lyH)

20 Horizon's ambling pace and classical perspective were both sticking points at Cannes -- especially when an Apache raid on Frances's township is portrayed as a straightforwardly savage attack, without any of the anti-colonial karmic rib-prodding you might expect in 2024

The cognitive dissonance of this sort of thing is hilarious.

If a group of native born white Americans showed up at a "refugee" facility and brutally murdered a bunch of crimigrants I'm pretty sure the FNM would not cover it as a dry exercise in "anti-colonialism"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (oZhjI)

21 Damn, we were just getting into a good discussion of Camelot on the previous thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (v6JzV)

22 Missed the whole day getting my wife back and forth to tests.

Apparently the whole world knows Biden is an empty shell.
What I don't know is whom the left is blaming.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2024 04:39 PM (1bNHn)

23 I knew before the debate Sundowner would mention Trump is a felon

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)

24 "I watched the Biden-Trump debate alone in a Lisbon hotel room, and it made me weep," writes Thomas L. Friedman. "I cannot remember a more heartbreaking moment in American presidential campaign politics in my lifetime."

HAHAHA

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 28, 2024 04:39 PM (NtVYv)

25 Kostner peaked in The Untouchables.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:39 PM (v6JzV)

26 Robert Zmeckis directed another special-effects-heavy drama, again with Tom Hanks. It uses de-aging technology to show the progress of time, with Tom Hanks going from Bosom Buddies age to Joe Biden age.

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As long as Zemeckis' last film isn't Pinocchio, I'm happy. Pinocchio was dreadful.

Supposedly, Here tested through the roof, and the cowriter, Eric Roth, has been talking it up like crazy for months.

Hopefully, it'll be better than Pinocchio.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

27 17 thanks TJM, i added it
Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (KRtlO)

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No problemo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

28 And, BTW, has anyone expressed outrage that Trump should beat Biden IN PRIDE MONTH?

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (1bNHn)

29 good afternoon

Posted by: Outside. In my garage. at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (89Sog)

30 Three hours sounds like a short Costner movie.

Point of fact: Tombstone was more historically accurate than Costner's version.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (lTGtQ)

31 Interesting to see all that on Mr. Tennant. That explains why he was used again in Doctor Who Cares, just before introducing En-cutie Gatwa.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (8sMut)

32 19 A standing ovation at Cannes is usually a red flag for me, but I'll give Costner some slack. I like most of what he has done and will see this. He does westerns well.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2024 04:38 PM (W/lyH)

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It's standard, and it's a stupid game people play about how beloved a film is.

"Oh, only a 5 minute standing ovation? They didn't like it very much."

"Oh, he got 11 minutes? When he was here 30 years ago, he got 15 minutes."

They do standing ovations for every film outside of things that just piss everyone off (like The Brown Bunny).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

33 thanks TJM, i added it
Posted by: ace

A Prometheus clip?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (v6JzV)

34 28 And, BTW, has anyone expressed outrage that Trump should beat Biden IN PRIDE MONTH?
Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (1bNHn)

I have.

Posted by: There Is Nothing More Important Than Being Gay at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (8sMut)

35 The award was up his ally.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (ZdexC)

36 That's too bad about David Tennant, because he can act.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2024 04:41 PM (d9fT1)

37 TJM just linked this: Mark Wahlberg in Flight Risk. Directed by Mel Gibson. I do like a plane thriller.

i'm'a guess the risk involves snakes.

Posted by: anachronda at June 28, 2024 04:41 PM (sGtp+)

38 Interesting to see all that on Mr. Tennant. That explains why he was used again in Doctor Who Cares, just before introducing En-cutie Gatwa.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2024 04:40 PM (8sMut)
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Yeah, he was good as the Tenth Doctor, but as we've seen since, he's all on board with the Leftist nonsense, so he's basically dead to me now. I don't care to watch anything else he's been in.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2024 04:41 PM (BpYfr)

39 36 That's too bad about David Tennant, because he can act.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2024 04:41 PM (d9fT1)

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*breathes heavily through teeth to display any emotion*
-David Tennant

I've honestly never thought too much of him as an actor. I was always a Chris Eccleston guy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

40 Movie thread!
Watched The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare last night.
It has Superman & Reacher in it.
Very stabby. I like it.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 28, 2024 04:42 PM (T1rlM)

41 The fetching Mrs Beartooth and I have tickets to Horizon for Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 28, 2024 04:42 PM (ivVQZ)

42 I suspect Mr Tennant did his time on the casting couch and wants to make sure that he can give others the same experience now that he's a big name - I mean that is how the BBC works right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (oZhjI)

43 I thought the Hanks movie looked interesting. Will I go to a theater to see it? Probably not. My ongoing "condition" from last night makes it difficult to go out in public, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (xCA6C)

44 >>>Watched The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare last night.

i want to see that, have they finally dropped the price from $20?

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (KRtlO)

45 No, this is not something. Kevin Costner is a terrible actor, and I've only liked some movies he's in only because of the subject (Field of Dreams, Tin Cup).

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (XMwZJ)

46 Reagan trailer looks good. Jon Voight is in it.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (wGerL)

47 "That's too bad about David Tennant, because he can act."

I wonder what he traded for that ability?

Posted by: Satan at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (89Sog)

48 Gibson is one of the best directors working today. If he wasn't politically right wing he'd be one of Hollywood's biggest power brokers. And yes even with his uh...instability.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (oZhjI)

49
WTF is wrong with Scotland? And Ireland? And the UK?"

My feeling about Scotland and the UK is that they got used to being the center of a Great Empire, the center of the World, really, and suddenly it was all gone - all lost - and overnight they turned into Canada with Castles. Where did it all go? Psychologically, this was huge - they were on the winning side in the World Wars, how come it felt like they lost? So they have frantically searching for meaning and that old feeling of importance ever since, and since they all decided to ditch Christianity they bought into the new feel good religion of radical wokism and leftism. It's all going to collapse in tears and fire, but til then they can all feel virtuous and pride themselves on how Wonderful they all are.

Now all I will say about the Irish is that they've always been fucked in the head, the Scots and the English always knew that, and Oliver Cromwell dealt with them better than anyone since.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (wyMQY)

50 44 >>>Watched The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare last night.

i want to see that, have they finally dropped the price from $20?
Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (KRtlO)

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According to justwatch.com, it seems to have dropped to a $10 rental through streaming.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (GBKbO)

51 No, this is not something. Kevin Costner is a terrible actor, and I've only liked some movies he's in only because of the subject (Field of Dreams, Tin Cup).

He was very good in The Highwaymen.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (xCA6C)

52 The one that returns to old-fashioned values of layered storytelling and real-world spectacle? Created by a seasoned, impassioned artist rather than a soulless business model?
That goes out of its way to cater to the older audiences typically not that well-served outside of awards season?

So. Catering to dumbass libs for Oscar's. This means it will suck moose Cock. I'm calling it now.

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (LwSpU)

53 Ace, the dvd is out; borrowed it from the library

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (T1rlM)

54 Did everyone believe the actor with the completely different facial structure playing Clark Kent at 16 suddenly turned in Christopher Reeve playing Clark Kent at 21?

Can't be nearly as silly as swapping out Max Pirkis as young Octavian for Simon Woods.
Woods was... okay, but mostly ended up highlighting the dropoff in script quality between the first season and the last episodes of the second.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (gKWVE)

55 48 Gibson is one of the best directors working today. If he wasn't politically right wing he'd be one of Hollywood's biggest power brokers. And yes even with his uh...instability.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (oZhjI)

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Hollywood would have covered it up and forgiven him.

Polanski raped a 13 year old, and Hollywood gives him standing ovations when his name is mentioned at the Oscars.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

56 I'll see "Horizon" on the big screen as it was meant to be experienced -- in face-melting Feel-a-Round.

I liked Costner and Harrelson in "The Highwaymen". That movie also let the environment itself tell the story, with its endless highways so conducive to a good crime spree.

Costner has successfully made the transition from leading man heartthrob to character actor.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (kpS4V)

57 I've honestly never thought too much of him as an actor. I was always a Chris Eccleston guy.

Huh. And here I thought I was the only one who like the Eccleston Doctor. Cheers.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (/y8xj)

58 22 Apparently the whole world knows Biden is an empty shell.
What I don't know is whom the left is blaming.

mysterious new rhinovirus that putin gave trump to release in the venue. expect lockdowns and experimental vaccines before the election.

Posted by: anachronda at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (sGtp+)

59 Tennant was viewed favorably as the doctor only because Eccleston was so bad at the role, and the show only survived due to goodwill from 40 years of episodes. Matt Smith was probably the closest doctor to what the original series tried to be, and had the best writing in decades.

After Smith left, the show was over. Nothing that came after even tried to follow the canon.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (lTGtQ)

60 Silverado was good.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (xaNfJ)

61 51 He was very good in The Highwaymen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 04:44 PM (xCA6C)

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Ah, John Lee Hancock. He's a good, low-key filmmaker. The Highwaymen was good stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

62 Apparently the whole world knows Biden is an empty shell.
What I don't know is whom the left is blaming.

CNN, among others. No, I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (xCA6C)

63 Ahem, please use "Barely Animatronic Plank of Wood Kevin Costner" when referring to this "actor."

Thank you.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (tczCu)

64 It's hilarious that you called them Indians. If they were Indians, they'd be asking for Apple gift cards.

Posted by: ryukyu at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (hR0kJ)

65 57 I've honestly never thought too much of him as an actor. I was always a Chris Eccleston guy.

Huh. And here I thought I was the only one who like the Eccleston Doctor. Cheers.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (/y8xj)

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My favorite remains #8, though. Paul McGann needed more time to shine!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

66 No, this is not something. Kevin Costner is a terrible actor, and I've only liked some movies he's in only because of the subject (Field of Dreams, Tin Cup).
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

He did a good job as the corpse in The Big Chill.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

67 Hugh Grant was a high point in the already-good D&D movie.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (gKWVE)

68 My ongoing "condition" from last night makes it difficult to go out in public, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (xCA6C)
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"One xtra large tub of popcorn, extra butter please."

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (kpS4V)

69 I like Costner, and heard it’s good from local news reviewer.

Mark Wahlberg and Mel Gibson? Interesting.
If you haven’t seen it, Walberg’s “Father Stu” is a good one.

Posted by: Heather at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (Hkcdp)

70 Did I just see Jussie Smollet in a teethe whitener commercial?

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (AwYPR)

71 64 It's hilarious that you called them Indians.

For extra lols, because they're Apache, call them Canadian immigrants.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (gKWVE)

72 21 Damn, we were just getting into a good discussion of Camelot on the previous thread.

'tis a silly place

Posted by: anachronda at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (sGtp+)

73 67 Hugh Grant was a high point in the already-good D&D movie.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (gKWVE)

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He's a delight in Paddington 2.

Paddington 2 is one of the great family movies.

Also, Paddington in Peru is coming later this year! It's definitely gonna be something!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XmzCGFHKqw

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)

74 >>>According to justwatch.com, it seems to have dropped to a $10 rental through streaming.

good, good

want to see that and the Fall Guy

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

75 Hugh Grant was a high point in the already-good D&D movie.

Pine was great and Grant played great opposite him...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (oZhjI)

76 I also didn't think that my former favorite Doctor would become a mad proponent of child mutilation, and tell one of the only black women in Parliament to "shut up" because she's sounding notes of caution on experimental trans surgeries.
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As Steve Marriott said, I don't need no doctor.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (krQz2)

77 they were selling (not renting) the Beekeeper for $8 on Amazon last week.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

78
MAGAnomics. Trumps on fire. I think he's in VA today.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 28, 2024 04:49 PM (RKVpM)

79 >>>Hugh Grant was a high point in the already-good D&D movie.
Pine was great and Grant played great opposite him...

yes. but wanna say, the movie was filled with high points. They were the best but everything else was good.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:49 PM (KRtlO)

80 Tennant's kid is in the Trans culture, so he's had to go all in for it or lose the relationship with his kid. Absolutely tragic.

Posted by: American Hawkman at June 28, 2024 04:49 PM (rM26B)

81 Hugh Grant was a high point in the already-good D&D movie.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (gKWVE)

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He was unrecognizable in The Gentlemen.

Apparently, he can act.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 04:50 PM (krQz2)

82 they were selling (not renting) the Beekeeper for $8 on Amazon last week.
Posted by: ace

Is that the Peter Fonda movie?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:50 PM (v6JzV)

83 Paddington in Peruvia sees Paddington beat a black Gentle Giant to death then shooting him for good measure.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 28, 2024 04:50 PM (ZdexC)

84 I look forward to the Costner and Quaid films

Dennis Quaid's "Doc Holliday" was far superior to Kilmer's- this of course, is an objective truth*- so I'm interested to see how he plays Reagan (pbuh)

*come at me!

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 04:50 PM (/7KEl)

85 Red Box seems to be circling the drain, by the way.

Apparently, they missed a debt payment and stopped paying for their employees' health insurance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

86 Hugh Grant was a high point in the already-good D&D movie.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:47 PM (gKWVE)

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He was unrecognizable in The Gentlemen.

Apparently, he can act.
Posted by: Axeman

One of the funniest scenes in the movies is the fight scene between Hugh Grant and Colin Firth in "Bridget Jones' Diary."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:51 PM (v6JzV)

87 The wife and I are going to 'Horizon' next weekend. Gonna be a long film (for her) but I have some hopes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 28, 2024 04:52 PM (xcxpd)

88 Once Upon a Time in America opened with one set of youth actors and then transitioned to older actors.

Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2024 04:52 PM (xma02)

89 WTF is wrong with Scotland? And Ireland? And the UK?"

My feeling about Scotland and the UK is that they got used to being the center of a Great Empire, the center of the World, really, and suddenly it was all gone - all lost - and overnight they turned into Canada with Castles. Where did it all go? Psychologically, this was huge - they were on the winning side in the World Wars, how come it felt like they lost? So they have frantically searching for meaning and that old feeling of importance ever since, and since they all decided to ditch Christianity they bought into the new feel good religion of radical wokism and leftism. It's all going to collapse in tears and fire, but til then they can all feel virtuous and pride themselves on how Wonderful they all are.

Now all I will say about the Irish is that they've always been fucked in the head, the Scots and the English always knew that, and Oliver Cromwell dealt with them better than anyone since.
Posted by: Tom Servo

_____________

Living on a Thin Line by the Kinks seems to be all about this. At least for the English.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 28, 2024 04:52 PM (Dm8we)

90 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 28, 2024 04:52 PM (Zz0t1)

91 Is that the Peter Fonda movie?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:50 PM (v6JzV)
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That's "Ulie's Gold".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 28, 2024 04:53 PM (kpS4V)

92 Well, when I was first, and didn't type, it was centered.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 28, 2024 04:53 PM (Zz0t1)

93 62 Apparently the whole world knows Biden is an empty shell.
What I don't know is whom the left is blaming.

CNN, among others. No, I'm not kidding.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 04:46 PM (xCA6C)

Once the tweet from Obama went out, the position was clear - this is about Party Loyalty, not reality. The Party says Support Biden no matter what, and pretend last night did not happen. Watch all analysis and talk about it in the Media be shut down completely; they had a 24 Time of Landru where they all went nuts, but now the controls are back in place.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 04:55 PM (wyMQY)

94
Realistic characters with complicated backstories, a compelling plot, rising tension, challenging dialogue, beautiful locations and expert camerawork. These all combined to make porn great.

Now it's just down to three hole monte with anonymous players.

The golden era is gone, except for the showers.

Posted by: Auspex at June 28, 2024 04:55 PM (j4U/Z)

95 84 I look forward to the Costner and Quaid films

randy quaid?

Posted by: anachronda at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (sGtp+)

96 >>Is that the Peter Fonda movie?

no the newish Jason Statham action/revenge movie. solid actioner. Not sure if it's worth $8. $6 or $7, yes. 8? I don't know how many times i'd actually rewatch it.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

97 As for Doctor Who...it's trash and has always been British pacifist trash. I like Tom Baker but even he isn't enough to bring me over to tolerating Doctor Who.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

98 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge

I think we need to start designating posts as "BS" ("before Sponge") and "AS" ("after Sponge").

So, Sponge clocked in at Comment 90 on this thread. So, taking Comment 90 as "Sponge Zero," Comment 1 (ostensibly) would become Comment 89 BS.

Just a suggestion.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (v6JzV)

99 Flight Risk, new film directed by Mel Gibson.

I think it's something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

This is the one with Mark Walberg as the pilot/assassin?

It's definitely something. Walberg hasn't played a hilarious bad guy since he played Melvin Smiley in the very underappreciated gem The Big Hit way back in 1998.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (tczCu)

100 how to make a blockbuster movie trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjqyG37A

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2024 04:57 PM (D7oie)

101 Interesting five minute video from Dave Portnoy. Bottom line: the Donks would never have sent Joe out to crash and burn unless they intended to defenestrate him.

https://is.gd/zz91Ah

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 28, 2024 04:57 PM (L/fGl)

102 The Beekeeper is a typical Jason Stratham movie, where he’s a criminal of some sort (retired assassin) who has principles, then is wronged by criminals of no principles, so he seeks revenge.

And it’s totally watchable. Bonus points for making the bad guy “ripped from the headlines,” lol.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2024 04:58 PM (Hkcdp)

103 Mel Gibson is a nut.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:58 PM (v6JzV)

104 Realistic characters with complicated backstories, a compelling plot, rising tension, challenging dialogue, beautiful locations and expert camerawork. These all combined to make porn great.

Now it's just down to three hole monte with anonymous players.

The golden era is gone, except for the showers.
Posted by: Auspex at June 28, 2024 04:55 PM (j4U/Z)

The parody porns are still good, the Star Wars parody and the Batman parodies have good sex and surprisingly faithful adaptations of the characters.

Otherwise, it's all amateurs of varying degrees of skill with terrible camera work or CGI video game porn. Which I like.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 28, 2024 04:58 PM (xcxpd)

105 Am I the only person that liked Bull Durham?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 28, 2024 04:59 PM (xjTDL)

106 103 Mel Gibson is a nut.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:58 PM (v6JzV)

He knows how to make a movie and how to act in one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 28, 2024 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

107 It's definitely something. Walberg hasn't played a hilarious bad guy since he played Melvin Smiley in the very underappreciated gem The Big Hit way back in 1998.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (tczCu)

I thought he did a smallish, but good turn in "The Departed."

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 04:59 PM (AwYPR)

108 My guess is Roberts uses ChatGTP to write a completely incoherent 93 page 0-9 decision in which all 9 justices disagree with the other 8 stating that a President has complete immunity, except when he doesn't. By doing so, he cements his self view as a modern day Solomon - having divided the legal baby into 9 equal parts. The decision cites both Kramer vs Kramer and Brosie vs Cannibals .

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 28, 2024 05:00 PM (CecP5)

109 Wasn't on to talk about this earlier, but we're definitely past the "It's Not Happening" phase with Joe Biden.

However, I did find signs that although it seems that many have moved past the "It's Minor And Temporary" phase, some people are saying "I'ts one debate".

I was watching part of the post-game on CNN, and they were doing a "debunking" segment. And while Trump *may* have made some inaccurate claims, it's not like the lies that Biden told invoking long dead and debunked *slanders* about Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:00 PM (krQz2)

110 >>>. Walberg hasn't played a hilarious bad guy since he played Melvin Smiley in the very underappreciated gem The Big Hit way back in 1998.

i thought you were going to say "since Pain and Gain," which I've heard is okay

though I bailed out after five minutes. sometimes michael bey is just too much bey

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:01 PM (KRtlO)

111 re Portnoy, could be the Dems are as sick of Dr Jill's shit as we are. Dems actually have to sit in with her at meetings. Even if I was a total soyswilling eunuch it would take everything I had, not to lose my temper and shout "who the hell voted for you, 'doctor of my ASS'".

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 05:01 PM (gKWVE)

112 Walburg was good in "Pain and Gain", although The Rock stole the show.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 28, 2024 05:01 PM (kpS4V)

113 Interesting five minute video from Dave Portnoy. Bottom line: the Donks would never have sent Joe out to crash and burn unless they intended to defenestrate him.

Just spit ballin here.... I think that's a telling mark that there is a serious schism in big D. I'm pretty sure the meat puppet is Barky's third term and the re-election is the key to his 4th. If what Dave says is true, team Skankles is making the play for leadership out of fear of what could come when PDTS returns.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (YRsIm)

114 OT

Sitting on the 2nd floor of the B terminal here at the Denver airport. Some Moron has put stickers of electrical outlets on the pillars and people have clearly tried to plug in based on the scratches.

Which one of you magnificent bastards did this?

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (9hv2t)

115 97 As for Doctor Who...it's trash and has always been British pacifist trash. I like Tom Baker but even he isn't enough to bring me over to tolerating Doctor Who.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 28, 2024 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

what I liked about the Tom Baker era was that it showed that you could do good sci-fi as long as you had good writing, even if you did have foam rubber monsters.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (wyMQY)

116 103 Mel Gibson is a nut.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:58 PM (v6JzV)

A violence fetishist.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (GFoyL)

117 nteresting five minute video from Dave Portnoy. Bottom line: the Donks would never have sent Joe out to crash and burn unless they intended to defenestrate him.

https://is.gd/zz91Ah
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 28, 2024 04:57 PM (L/fGl)
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That's why we had a "Presidential Debate" in June, before either of the noms or conventions.

Completely so that the Dems had regrouping time.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (krQz2)

118 Obama just issued a statement backing Biden. That's it. Joe's gonna weather the storm.

Posted by: mediapostate at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (miciY)

119 about the Tom Baker era was that it showed that you could do good sci-fi as long as you had good writing

*buffs nails*

Posted by: Douglas Adams at June 28, 2024 05:03 PM (gKWVE)

120 At this point, any Western that's not remotely woke would probably be worth watching. Woke and Western are probably polar opposites, but that doesn't mean P3d0wood wouldn't do it, if they already haven't. *

* I don't watch much video these days as it seems to be mostly propaganda disguised as "entertainment."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 28, 2024 05:03 PM (Q4IgG)

121 Party loyalty is a Marxist trait

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (fwDg9)

122 My feeling about Scotland and the UK is that they got used to being the center of a Great Empire, the center of the World, really, and suddenly it was all gone - all lost - and overnight they turned into Canada with Castles. Where did it all go? Psychologically, this was huge - they were on the winning side in the World Wars, how come it felt like they lost? So they have frantically searching for meaning and that old feeling of importance ever since, and since they all decided to ditch Christianity they bought into the new feel good religion of radical wokism and leftism. It's all going to collapse in tears and fire, but til then they can all feel virtuous and pride themselves on how Wonderful they all are.

--

So the body dysmorphia is actually a symptom of civilization dysmorphia

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (B9Prs)

123 Obama just issued a statement backing Biden. That's it. Joe's gonna weather the storm.

Methinks you give him too much credit.

Posted by: That guy who always says "methinks" at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)

124 Just spit ballin here.... I think that's a telling mark that there is a serious schism in big D. I'm pretty sure the meat puppet is Barky's third term and the re-election is the key to his 4th. If what Dave says is true, team Skankles is making the play for leadership out of fear of what could come when PDTS returns.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (YRsIm)

That would explain why Obama stuck his head out today and personally endorsed Biden, and said forget about the debate.
There's another point about not replacing Biden now - every day that goes by, it gets harder and harder to do tit at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (wyMQY)

125
It's never Something.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (dHY2e)

126 Obama who?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 28, 2024 05:05 PM (QSrLX)

127 what I liked about the Tom Baker era was that it showed that you could do good sci-fi as long as you had good writing, even if you did have foam rubber monsters.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:02 PM (wyMQY)

they had Douglas Adams and a couple other masters writing and producing, and that is what put the whole "we have worse sets and props than those children shows featuring marionettes" production quality over.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2024 05:05 PM (D7oie)

128 I can't understand why there is no love for Alec Baldwin and his authentic, hack fucking western film, Rust.

When the film crew needs to employ a rescue toboggan to place your New York, murdering ass on the back of a pony, you know this is Oscar worthy art.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 28, 2024 05:06 PM (dmXQN)

129 Dumb title with nothing that suggests any tie to the story. I’ll watch it when it comes out on 4K. But I, really getting tired of these endlessly long movies.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 28, 2024 05:06 PM (0xS3U)

130 i thought you were going to say "since Pain and Gain," which I've heard is okay

though I bailed out after five minutes. sometimes michael bey is just too much bey
Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:01 PM (KRtlO)

Have you seen 13 Hours? It's very...un-Bay in many ways

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 28, 2024 05:06 PM (xcxpd)

131 Obama is publicly backing Joe to portray the good guy while his people work to replace Joe behind the scenes.

TFG just wants us to “let him be clear, “ as “he’s always said,” Joe is his candidate!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2024 05:06 PM (Hkcdp)

132 I like Kevin Costner but didn't like Dances with Wolves

Posted by: Skip

I liked the movie but the Big Lie in the voice-over at the end really pissed me off:

"And the great horse culture of The Plains was over . . ."

Huh? You mean the great horse culture that only began when the Spanish brought horses to North America only a couple hundred years before? That horse culture?

Before the Spanish, there probably weren't any Injuns on the Great Plains. Were the tribes following the buffalo herds on foot? Yeah, no.

I hate Injun propaganda.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2024 05:07 PM (tczCu)

133 Obama is publicly backing Joe to portray the good guy while his people work to replace Joe behind the scenes.

You know it. I know it. Bob Dole knows it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 05:07 PM (xCA6C)

134 Did you say "oy, Bey" ace?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2024 05:07 PM (D7oie)

135 Hugh Grant was a scream in Wonka.

I still wany Cliff Booth for President. He's been chewed out before,

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 28, 2024 05:07 PM (QSrLX)

136 Mel Gibson is a nut.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Don't care. If the movie is good I'll go see it. He'll get a pass from me. Also, I have a thing for the young Mel Gibson ( see "The Year of Living Dangerously"). Of course there's "Braveheart" too. "FREEDOM!"

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2024 05:07 PM (oaGWv)

137 Mel Gibson is a nut.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 04:58 PM (v6JzV)
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Who has balls.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (krQz2)

138 Did I just see Jussie Smollet in a teethe whitener commercial?
Posted by: BignJames
.......

Wouldn't be surprised. TV is chock full of fags.

Posted by: wth at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (v0R5T)

139 123 Obama just issued a statement backing Biden. That's it. Joe's gonna weather the storm.

Methinks you give him too much credit.
Posted by: That guy who always says "methinks" at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)

No, I don't think so. Because this was not just a statement of support, this was a Party Order telling all good Party Members to shut up about the debate, pretend it never happened, and back Joe all the way. Being the good Party Members that they are, I believe you will see the end of all discussion of the debate and its meaning overnight in all mainstream media outlets, and any Dem who dares to say Joe isn't Viable is going to be out the door immediately.

They've collectively decided to give this campaign a Thelma and Louise ending, with Joe and Kamala laughing and cackling in the front seat as it goes off the cliff.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (wyMQY)

140 TFG. Obama? Oh that one.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (QSrLX)

141 how to make a blockbuster movie trailer

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Well, if we're going to talk movies, two things. This 1957 Brit movie contains a remarkable number of before they were stars. Hell Drivers!

https://is.gd/Pko1f7

And there is a series of evil, sinful pre Hayes Code films.

https://is.gd/GeFHpt

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (L/fGl)

142 Oh, I liked Bull Durham, Notsothoreau.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (Hkcdp)

143 From the clip, the Randy Quaid movie about Reagan looks pretty positive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:09 PM (oUxZc)

144 I watched those 'prequels' to Yellowstone, and I enjoyed them. I watched a little bit of Yellowstone with Costner and turned it off.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 28, 2024 05:09 PM (YRsIm)

145 "Good news! Remember the film everyone keeps begging Hollywood to make? The one that returns to old-fashioned values of layered storytelling and real-world spectacle?"
*****************************************

I don't recall audiences begging for more westerns, but for some reason lack of broad interest in supposedly "conservative" or "old-fashioned" western films is employed as evidence that Hollywood is right not to make good films.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at June 28, 2024 05:09 PM (EkM38)

146 Sitting on the 2nd floor of the B terminal here at the Denver airport. Some Moron has put stickers of electrical outlets on the pillars and people have clearly tried to plug in based on the scratches.

Which one of you magnificent bastards did this?
Posted by: BifBewalski

Now that's just cruel. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2024 05:10 PM (oaGWv)

147 I'll probably watch Horizon. I like westerns and Costner

Posted by: Ex GOP at June 28, 2024 05:10 PM (GpUII)

148 this Samsung tablet wants to install some photo editing software

it won't let me decline
I can say 'yes' or 'not now'
wtf

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:10 PM (/7KEl)

149 No, I don't think so. Because this was not just a statement of support, this was a Party Order telling all good Party Members to shut up about the debate, pretend it never happened, and back Joe all the way. Being the good Party Members that they are, I believe you will see the end of all discussion of the debate and its meaning overnight in all mainstream media outlets, and any Dem who dares to say Joe isn't Viable is going to be out the door immediately.

They've collectively decided to give this campaign a Thelma and Louise ending, with Joe and Kamala laughing and cackling in the front seat as it goes off the cliff.

Well, we'll know soon enough. The good thing is that no matter what they do, I think they're screwed.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 05:10 PM (xCA6C)

150 136 Mel Gibson is a nut.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Don't care. If the movie is good I'll go see it. He'll get a pass from me. Also, I have a thing for the young Mel Gibson ( see "The Year of Living Dangerously"). Of course there's "Braveheart" too. "FREEDOM!"
Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2024 05:07 PM (oaGWv)

Sometimes you feel like a nut - sometimes you don't!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:10 PM (wyMQY)

151 >>>they had Douglas Adams and a couple other masters writing and producing, and that is what put the whole "we have worse sets and props than those children shows featuring marionettes" production quality over.

he was only there a brief time

though in ep 2 of the first New Who season, they took a line from one of his scripts of an unmade series, which Douglas adams had already stolen for the Hitchhiker's Guide, Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

Rose: Will there be people here?
Doctor: Of course. Wait, when you say people, do you mean...?
Rose: I mean people. When *you* say people, what do *you* mean?
Doctor: Aliens.

the similar joke in Restaurant goes:
Arthur: The people... the *things*...
Ford: The things are also people.
Arthur: The people... the... *other* people...

That episode also involved an exclusive resort for watching the end of something. In Restaurant, they watched the actual end of the universe, in doctor who, they watched the end of the earth. Both involved the resort/restaurant being in a time bubble that was always at the moment of the death of the universe/the earth.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:10 PM (KRtlO)

152
Obama? When gas is $3.75 a gallon and groceries are 25% higher then a few years ago, and Herve is on the corner selling drugs to your kids who GAF what he says?

He had his 15 minutes of knob polishing.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 28, 2024 05:11 PM (RKVpM)

153 Wow, even that far left pro-perversion audience cringed when that annoying poofter Doctor told the lady to “shut up.” I hope this prick dies from suffocating on oozing monkeypox pustules in his mouth.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 28, 2024 05:11 PM (0xS3U)

154 Obama just issued a statement backing Biden. That's it. Joe's gonna weather the storm.

Methinks you give him too much credit.
Posted by: That guy who always says "methinks" at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)
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That's like an NFL denial. Almost proof that the opposite is going to happen.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:11 PM (krQz2)

155 Obama is publicly backing Joe to portray the good guy while his people work to replace Joe behind the scenes.

TFG just wants us to “let him be clear, “ as “he’s always said,” Joe is his candidate!!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2024 05:06 PM (Hkcdp)

Would you really want that gay kenyan to be standing behind you?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 28, 2024 05:11 PM (0eaVi)

156
I watched a little bit of Yellowstone with Costner and turned it off.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 28, 2024 05:09 PM (YRsIm)

_________

You'd have to go well down the cast list to find someone you wouldn't mind seeing die in a fire.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2024 05:11 PM (dHY2e)

157 >>>Have you seen 13 Hours? It's very...un-Bay in many ways

yeah I got to see it at a special premier for Conservative (ahem) Influencers. I wrote about it here, long ago.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

158 Polanski raped a 13 year old, and Hollywood gives him standing ovations when his name is mentioned at the Oscars.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursui

Ass-raped. He ass-raped a 13 year old. And he was a notorious pervert long before that. G-d only knows how many girls that malignant little goblin violated over the years.

It's a damn shame he was out of town when the Manson Family came around with their knives. It would have been nice if *something* good could have come out of all that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2024 05:13 PM (0FoWg)

159 I just thought of something.....

If you have a cold, why are you going to waffle house to infect everybody else just so you can shove calories into your face?

Has the coof taught you nothing?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:13 PM (rT03i)

160 Obama is publicly backing Joe to portray the good guy while his people work to replace Joe behind the scenes.

TFG just wants us to “let him be clear, “ as “he’s always said,” Joe is his candidate!!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2024 05:06 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yup. That's how I took it as well.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:13 PM (krQz2)

161 Dennis Quaid

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (/7KEl)

162 The only Mel Gibson flick I liked was “Gallipoli.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (v6JzV)

163 Obama just issued a statement backing Biden. That's it. Joe's gonna weather the storm.

Methinks you give him too much credit.
Posted by: That guy who always says "methinks" at June 28, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)
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That's like an NFL denial. Almost proof that the opposite is going to happen.

Just remember that Obama is the author of this catastrophe for the Dems. He wanted 2 more terms, and Biden was his ticket to getting them. Now it has all collapsed, and there are no good options for the Dems. Why would they care what the author of such a CF thinks? It's "everyone into the lifeboats" time for active politicians.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (xCA6C)

164 I wouldn’t want to be near any of the prominent Democrats, gay or not.

Seem to recall a Hillary email where staffers were complaining about her BO and smelled like piss. That’s above and beyond her being a raging, condescending beyooooootch.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (Hkcdp)

165 Ace, have I got a "scoop" for you (if you happen to read this). I'm just now getting around to watching the debate, and I have to listen with headphones on because I don't want to disturb my toddler daughter's nap.

On Youtube go to "The CNN Presidential Debate: President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump."
Go to 1 hour 16 minutes 20 seconds. Both candidates' microphones are hot. With the volume turned up, you will clearly hear a liquid squirt that sounds suspiciously like a bodily function. There is little question that Biden is relieving his bowels.

Posted by: Bach in Black at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (+oqUV)

166 I just thought of something.....

If you have a cold, why are you going to waffle house to infect everybody else just so you can shove calories into your face?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:13 PM (rT03i)
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His lie writers didn't spec that one out.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (krQz2)

167 >>> 159 I just thought of something.....

If you have a cold, why are you going to waffle house to infect everybody else just so you can shove calories into your face?

Has the coof taught you nothing?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:13 PM (rT03i)

OrangeManBad needs a "Joe is a SUPER-SPREADER" commercial.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 28, 2024 05:15 PM (llON8)

168 Wow, Quaid nails the Dutch voice.

Might be good. Might not. But I predict there's dialogue written solely for the benefit of the ignoramuses in the audience that will ruin multiple scenes. That's a hallmark of unsatisfying movies for me.

(e.g. Apollo 13, when NASA scientists are explaining *to each other* that a damaged heat shield would cause the crew to burn up on re-entry.)

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 28, 2024 05:15 PM (wzAuc)

169 >>>With the volume turned up, you will clearly hear a liquid squirt that sounds suspiciously like a bodily function. There is little question that Biden is relieving his bowels.

oof

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:15 PM (KRtlO)

170
The Biden's went out to a restaurant.
The waiter serving them asked Jill Biden for her order first.
"To start, I'll have the french onion soup. Then the prime rib, medium-rare, with a baked potato, with butter and sour cream."
"Excellent, Doctor. What about the vegetable?"
"Oh, he'll have the same thing."

Posted by: DAN at June 28, 2024 05:15 PM (rn2/h)

171 Obama doesn't give a shit if Biden wins or loses. Either way he gets to go on living as the guy who was the First Black President. He's just the kind of person who is so narsassistic that he'll say and do whatever they tell him because his life is good and will keeep on being good no matter what happens. Trump didn't threaten his legacy the first time, he won't threaten it this time either, he's got bigger problems to deal with.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 28, 2024 05:16 PM (B9Prs)

172 Saw some Dem float Bootygig as a Joe replacement...do, do it, please.

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 05:16 PM (AwYPR)

173 Also, Kamala was apparently Obama's idea. Good one there, chief.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 05:17 PM (xCA6C)

174 Apollo 13, when NASA scientists are explaining *to each other* that a damaged heat shield would cause the crew to burn up on re-entry.)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 28, 2024 05:15 PM (wzAuc)

They could have written in an intern or something

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:17 PM (rT03i)

175 Huh? You mean the great horse culture that only began when the Spanish brought horses to North America only a couple hundred years before? That horse culture?

Before the Spanish, there probably weren't any Injuns on the Great Plains. Were the tribes following the buffalo herds on foot? Yeah, no.

I hate Injun propaganda.

Posted by: Sharkman

I am constantly pointing this out to people. Indians east of the Mississippi were on foot. The Souix were in Minnesota. There were probably a few bands in the Rockies.

The Pueblo revolt in 1580 something is when it all changed, when the Pueblos got tired of being slave squires for the Spanish, killed them, and then sold the horses and taught the indians who would become the plains indians how to ride.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 28, 2024 05:18 PM (lTGtQ)

176 No, I think the Jug-Eared F***stick really wants that 4th term

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:18 PM (/7KEl)

177 I've come to appreciate Year of Living Dangerously more and more over the years; not just because it's a great movie, but because it's the *only* film I know of that acknowledges one of the great tragedies of recent history, one that has been airbrushed out of our history completely - the great Indonesian Massacre, which is the backdrop of the film. It's believed that the Indonesian military executed between 300,000 to 500,000 civilians in a two week period, sparked by a very murky coup attempt. And it's widely believed that the CIA set the whole thing up, and gave a wink and a nod to the Indonesian Military carrying out the massacres.

Just for comparison - the world is whining about 30,000 civilians killed in Gaza in 6 months (and that number is way high). But everyone has agreed to forget about 500,000 civilians executed by machine gun squads in one two week period.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:18 PM (wyMQY)

178 The Biden's went out to a restaurant.
The waiter serving them asked Jill Biden for her order first.
"To start, I'll have the french onion soup. Then the prime rib, medium-rare, with a baked potato, with butter and sour cream."
"Excellent, Doctor. What about the vegetable?"
"Oh, he'll have the same thing."

Posted by: DAN

hah

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:18 PM (KRtlO)

179 Well, I think they want to get Joe out of the way, to bring in the person who has polled the highest: Generic Democrat.

A different Democrat is the trick!.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:18 PM (krQz2)

180
Go to 1 hour 16 minutes 20 seconds. Both candidates' microphones are hot. With the volume turned up, you will clearly hear a liquid squirt that sounds suspiciously like a bodily function. There is little question that Biden is relieving his bowels.

The 'brown note' is in play?

Nobody wants the brown note in play.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 28, 2024 05:18 PM (RKVpM)

181 I seem to remember Barky making a comment to the effect that no one should underestimate Jotatoe's ability to fuck something up. Maybe he's thinking Kamaltoe is gonna ride the coattails of Joes death into office. Either way, he gets a fourth term.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 28, 2024 05:19 PM (YRsIm)

182 Here's a thought:

If Barack Obama were a super deep down-low Patriot who sought to annihilate progressivism in America.... what would be have done differently?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:19 PM (rT03i)

183 On Youtube go to "The CNN Presidential Debate: President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump."
Go to 1 hour 16 minutes 20 seconds. Both candidates' microphones are hot. With the volume turned up, you will clearly hear a liquid squirt that sounds suspiciously like a bodily function. There is little question that Biden is relieving his bowels.
Posted by: Bach in Black at June 28, 2024 05:14 PM (+oqUV)

okay guess what - I am NOT going to do what you said.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:19 PM (wyMQY)

184 So does Trump delay his Veep pick until the docks reveal who their ticket is going to be?

Posted by: Ex GOP at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (GpUII)

185
The Democrats lost something like 1000 statr and Federal seats during the Obama administration. Why people think he's a political genius is beyond me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (dHY2e)

186 i think the restaurant joke should go,

"And for the vegetable...?"
"Oh just give him the same thing."

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (KRtlO)

187 I zaprudered the debate tape. There was a distinct liquid poot at 1:16:20.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (kpS4V)

188
Randy Quaid stole every "Vacation" movie he was in, but then, Chevy Chase is very easily mugged.

Posted by: Auspex at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (j4U/Z)

189 143 From the clip, the Randy Quaid movie about Reagan looks pretty positive.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:09 PM (oUxZc)

I'm looking forward to it.

I always thought a movie about Reagan at Reykjavik could be good. A fascinating moment in the Cold War.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (GFoyL)

190 So does Trump delay his Veep pick until the docks reveal who their ticket is going to be?

Posted by: Ex GOP at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (GpUII)
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Answer hazy, ask again.

Posted by: Magic 8-ball at June 28, 2024 05:21 PM (krQz2)

191 I zaprudered the debate tape. There was a distinct liquid poot at 1:16:20.
Posted by: All Hail Eris"

Gives a new meaning to "running for President".

Posted by: fd at June 28, 2024 05:22 PM (ArbhN)

192 >Obama doesn't give a shit if Biden wins or loses. Either way he gets to go on living as the guy who was the First Black President.
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First mulatto President

yever notice obama has a perfectly round head? It's like a Charlie Brown head, only smaller

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:22 PM (/7KEl)

193 Chevy Chase is very easily mugged.
Posted by: Auspex at June 28, 2024 05:20 PM (j4U/Z)

He has never not been the supporting actor, even when cast as the lead.

He does his schtick, and the film happens around him.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:22 PM (rT03i)

194 Was watching the video but bailed out a bit over a hour

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2024 05:22 PM (fwDg9)

195 Sorry; Somebody above corrected me. It's Dennis Quaid, not Randy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:22 PM (oUxZc)

196 Saw some Dem float Bootygig as a Joe replacement...do, do it, please.
Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 05:16 PM (AwYPR)

I am wondering if it will be some "compromise" like an Dem ex-governor, or current safe state governor.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2024 05:23 PM (D7oie)

197 They should have nominated Eric Swalwell instead. He knew how to shake a table.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 05:23 PM (gKWVE)

198 >189 143 From the clip, the Randy Quaid movie about Reagan looks ....

DENNIS Quaid

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:23 PM (/7KEl)

199 They could have written in an intern or something
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:17 PM (rT03i)

--

That's one thing The Martian had going for it. Whenever they needed an "idiot in the room," Kristen Wiig was always at hand.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 28, 2024 05:24 PM (2BP+g)

200 Sorry; Somebody above corrected me. It's Dennis Quaid, not Randy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:22 PM (oUxZc)

Didn't Randy do LBJ?

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 05:24 PM (AwYPR)

201 "I hate Injun propaganda."

"Dances With Wolves" is "Gone With the Wind" for the Indians: long on romance, and rather thin on fact. I did appreciate the attempt to use Lakota language in the film, and I liked the romance between the Costner character and Stands With a Fist. Also, I wish I could have seen it projected in 70mm, in which it was shot: the Alberta scenery would have been absolutely amazing.

Also, I must disagree with Mr Madison: "Beowulf" was Robert Zemeckis's worst movie, not "Pinocchio". Granted, this is splitting hairs: they're both dreadful.

Posted by: Nemo at June 28, 2024 05:24 PM (S6ArX)

202
And there is a series of evil, sinful pre Hayes Code films.

https://is.gd/GeFHpt
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 28, 2024 05:08 PM (L/fGl)

I love those films! Babyface with Barbara Stanwyck is a very good movie - and with a morality that is shocking even by todays standards! One of the greatest heartlessly beautiful bitches ever on screen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:24 PM (wyMQY)

203 sorry

we just want to be right about stuff

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:24 PM (/7KEl)

204 Look, Fat, let's see you try standing in one place for over an hour and not popping out some brownie bites!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:25 PM (rT03i)

205 "Beowulf" was Robert Zemeckis's worst movie, not "Pinocchio".

Nude Angelina Jolie didn't do it for you?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 05:25 PM (xCA6C)

206 What did the black woman say that David Tennant was objecting to?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:25 PM (oUxZc)

207 I liked Dennis Quaid in Independence Day.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 28, 2024 05:25 PM (2BP+g)

208 Jordan Peterson's recent interview with Dennis Quaid was interesting in that unlike most of his interviews, Peterson seemed in awe of his guest.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 28, 2024 05:25 PM (GFoyL)

209 And just what the fuck is with the French, anyway? Why are those frogs so insistent on harboring a fugitive child rapist. Why not just serve him up, like decent human beings would? What's so great about that nasty little midget freak?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2024 05:26 PM (0FoWg)

210 >>>206 What did the black woman say that David Tennant was objecting to?

i think she objected to trans ideology.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2024 05:26 PM (KRtlO)

211 "Beowulf" was Robert Zemeckis's worst movie, not "Pinocchio".

Nude Angelina Jolie didn't do it for you?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 28, 2024 05:25 PM (xCA6C)

I liked it.

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 05:27 PM (AwYPR)

212 What's so great about that nasty little midget freak?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2024 05:26 PM (0FoWg)

It's like Jerry Lewis but with more neo-pubescent squeakholes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:27 PM (rT03i)

213 Dances With Wolves was shot in the US

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:27 PM (/7KEl)

214 From the clip, the Randy Quaid movie about Reagan looks pretty positive.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:09 PM (oUxZc)

I'm looking forward to it.

I always thought a movie about Reagan at Reykjavik could be good. A fascinating moment in the Cold War.
Posted by: Ordinary American
____

Think you all might be confusing a first name there, but the concept is intriguing.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 28, 2024 05:28 PM (Dm8we)

215 Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:24 PM (/7KEl)

No problem.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2024 05:28 PM (oUxZc)

216 Dances With Wolves was shot in the US
Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:27 PM (/7KEl)
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It had about four endings.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 28, 2024 05:28 PM (3Fz6p)

217 And just what the fuck is with the French, anyway? Why are those frogs so insistent on harboring a fugitive child rapist. Why not just serve him up, like decent human beings would? What's so great about that nasty little midget freak?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2024 05:26 PM (0FoWg)

Neil Goldschmidt died 16 days ago.

about 50 years too late

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2024 05:28 PM (D7oie)

218 Maybe Obama would rather his "influence" on American policy during *biden's administration would remain... in the background? Thus, a desire to keep the vegetable in office. It's not like *biden knows who Obama is anymore.

If you subscribe to the notion he's involved in it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 28, 2024 05:29 PM (Q4IgG)

219 Dances With Wolves was shot in the US

Posted by: Don Black at June 28, 2024 05:27 PM (/7KEl)
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So was Rust.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:29 PM (krQz2)

220 you know what else was shot in the US?

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at June 28, 2024 05:29 PM (KRtlO)

221 196 Saw some Dem float Bootygig as a Joe replacement...do, do it, please.
Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 05:16 PM (AwYPR)

I am wondering if it will be some "compromise" like an Dem ex-governor, or current safe state governor.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2024 05:23 PM (D7oie)

There was a tweet early this morning that was very insightful as to what happened, from a big dem donor on Long Island, He wrote that Obama and Ron Klain were headed to a private meeting with Biden to discuss the continuted viability of his campaign; but the Jill Biden was already saying Hell No, he won't drop out, and Kamala was pitching a fit at the suggestion that she not be the automatic nominee if Biden does drop out.

About 4 hours later came Obama's announcement of support for Biden. It seems to me a good guess that since Joe is a vegetable, Jill is making all the decisions, and if Jill says he isn't dropping out, he isn't. Also, if they've got to run Kamala in the lead role since she won't drop out, then they might as well suck it up and run Joe, same chances. That's how I think it played out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2024 05:29 PM (wyMQY)

222 And just what the fuck is with the French, anyway? Why are those frogs so insistent on harboring a fugitive child rapist. Why not just serve him up, like decent human beings would? What's so great about that nasty little midget freak?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

It's the sophistication.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 28, 2024 05:30 PM (L/fGl)

223 .

NOOD: The End of "Pride:" The Wages of Woke Is Death

I say again: NOOD

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 28, 2024 05:30 PM (O7YUW)

224 I'd see Randy Quaid play Hebert Hoover.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2024 05:31 PM (rT03i)

225 you know what else was shot in the US?

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at June 28, 2024 05:29 PM (KRtlO)

I know who else.

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2024 05:31 PM (AwYPR)

226 NOOD, you filthy bums.

Posted by: I'm a Poor Ideologue, Maybe at June 28, 2024 05:31 PM (FzNTb)

227 205 "Beowulf" was Robert Zemeckis's worst movie, not "Pinocchio".

Nude Angelina Jolie didn't do it for you?

nipples cgi-ed away. a tragedy.

Posted by: anachronda at June 28, 2024 05:33 PM (sGtp+)

228 Get thee to a NOODery.

Posted by: Axeman at June 28, 2024 05:33 PM (krQz2)

229 Can't be nearly as silly as swapping out Max Pirkis as young Octavian for Simon Woods.
Woods was... okay, but mostly ended up highlighting the dropoff in script quality between the first season and the last episodes of the second.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 28, 2024 04:45 PM (gKWVE)

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Yup, I remember being extremely impressed by young Pirkis’ performance in Rome - Season One, and was extremely disappointed when he was not Octavian in Season Two,

Season Two seemed so rushed, still great mostly, but rushed so they could fit the rest of the story in. I really wish they’d taken more time, kept Pirkis around and made three seasons.

It would have been ten times better if they had stretched the show out a few more years.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 28, 2024 05:34 PM (6ydKt)

230 She was shooting a movie and the movie shot back.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 28, 2024 05:38 PM (J8LnB)

231 I attended Horizon premiere @ Camp Pendleton Tuesday, Costner was there and held a Q&A. He's definitely not PC, very normal, uncomplicated man. He said he put his $ in to make the film correctly. It was an 8/10, the ending was quite different in that he sped up with scene flashes that was very cool.

Posted by: Jeff E at June 28, 2024 05:40 PM (jybJ9)

232 I'll give Horizon a try- it's on this week here in town.
I sat through 2 of the extended versions of LotR, after all.
Our vintage renovated theater has uncomfortable seats, but I bring a pillow.
And wear a sweater and bring a throw, b/c it's always freezing.
But I do love it...

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at June 28, 2024 05:41 PM (y7DxH)

233 Watching Winston Marshall on YouTube, he says tje Fact checkers at the Communist News Network said Trump lied over twice more than Sundowner

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2024 05:42 PM (fwDg9)

234 The Reagan Biopic looks good, the Tears for Fears abomination in the trailer simply does not belong and is stupid.

Reagan did not want to rule the world, he wanted soviet communism to die, which it did, unfortunately, it's tentacles spread throughout the institutions of the US.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 28, 2024 05:51 PM (XV/Pl)

235 7 Ace, I tried to get this to your attention a couple of days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojC9JBuccJA

Flight Risk, new film directed by Mel Gibson.

I think it's something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 28, 2024 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

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I dunno. I watched "Payback" for about the 50th time last night, though.

Posted by: The_Hoser at June 28, 2024 05:53 PM (N66D6)

236 42 I suspect Mr Tennant did his time on the casting couch and wants to make sure that he can give others the same experience now that he's a big name - I mean that is how the BBC works right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2024 04:43 PM (oZhjI)

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