Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh Join John Roberts and the Liberals to Uphold the Biden Administration's Persistent Unconstitutional Censorship of Americans

I forgot: Hello everyone! Welcome to Wednesday. Wednesday comes from "Wotan's Day," Wotan being the German name for the Norse god Odin. He had a lot of similar names: Odin, Wotan, Woden, Othin.

The Romans called the day Wodansday because they considered Odin, for some reason, to be the Germanic analogue of Mercury.

Via Google:

Old English Wōdnesdæg 'day of Odin', named after the Germanic god Odin or Woden, the supreme god; translation of late Latin Mercurii dies, Odin being equated with the Roman god Mercury. Compare with Dutch woensdag .

How does that work? I dunno, they seem completely different to me. Mercury was the messenger god, and Odin was the god of... hmm, apparently he's the god of wisdom, poetry, magic, and death. A Reddit guy explains they have some similarities in the lesser-known parts of their portfolios:

That being said, Odin and Mercury do have a few things in common. They are both associated with magic, words and language, knowledge, trickery and disguise, and traveling between different realms.

It's strange to have the father-god not be a god of war or the sky.

But that was Thor. Tyr/Tiw was the god of war, from where we get "Tuesday."

So Odin would have to have a different portfolio.

This guy, a sort of comparative mythology researcher, thinks the strangeness of Odin is due to him not being originally part of the Norse pantheon. He's an import, this guy says, a late addition, a god picked up from some shamanistic Scandanavian tribe and combined into the Norse pantheon, and given the backstory that he's the father of Thor.

On to the "very disappointing" news from the Supreme Court, as Matt Gaetz called it.

Amy Coney Barrett is a problem. She will haunt us for 50 years, like Sandra Day O'Connor.

She and her fellow liberals ruled that those bringing the lawsuit against the government for violating the First Amendment's prohibition against censorship lacked, get this, standing to bring the suit.

Kavanaugh, of course, is also a weak sister.

We fought for this guy?

Why are we nominating liberals to serve for life on the Supreme Court?!?!

In Murthy v. Missouri, the Court's decision underscores the stringent requirements for establishing standing in federal court regarding social media censorship claims. Justice Barrett's opinion highlights that neither the individual plaintiffs nor the state plaintiffs demonstrated a sufficiently concrete injury directly traceable to the actions of federal officials. "The need for a concrete and particularized injury cannot be overstated," wrote Barrett. "Speculative or generalized grievances do not meet the threshold for judicial intervention."
Justice Alito, in dissent, painted a stark picture of government overreach, describing the alleged coercion as a "far-reaching and widespread censorship campaign" against Americans expressing certain views on social media. This division within the Court reflects the ongoing debate over the role of government in regulating speech on digital platforms and the extent to which private companies' actions can be attributed to state influence.
Sean Davis, founder of The Federalist, reacted strongly to the ruling, tweeting, "The Supreme Court's ruling and opinion on the widespread federal government campaign to censor and banish accounts that shared factual information about ongoing government operations is an abomination that ignores both the facts and the law. I never thought I would see the Supreme Court rubber stamp the most egregious and illegal censorship campaign in American history, but here we are. What a joke."

They have not released the ruling on presidential immunity yet and, based on this ruling, I'm not at all hopeful.

But liberals are worried, for the moment, so maybe I'll take some solace in that.

Speculation is building about the possibility of the Supreme Court delivering a favorable ruling to former President Trump as he claims immunity from prosecution.
Even the current conservative-majority court would balk at finding that all presidents have unconstrained immunity, most experts believe.
But some kind of caveat-laden ruling that tosses the arguments about Trump's legal exposure back to lower courts remains a strong possibility.
That scenario is enough to alarm many liberals.
Eric Holder, who served as attorney general in the Obama administration, sounded a warning during a recent interview with Nicolle Wallace of MSNBC.
Holder alluded to the prospect of the justices ruling that a president can be prosecuted for private acts but not for "official" acts undertaken in the course of his duties.
In Trump's case, this pertains to alleged offenses in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. A mixed ruling would mean lower courts would be asked to adjudicate which of Trump's actions fit into either official or nonofficial category.
In practical terms, such a process would almost surely extend the case beyond November's election. If Trump wins the election, he could simply instruct the Justice Department to abandon its prosecution of him -- a move that would elicit howls of protest.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:03 PM

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1 Just another step toward tyranny

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 26, 2024 01:03 PM (JMAcK)

2 st

Posted by: RUReadingthis at June 26, 2024 01:03 PM (aQ25I)

3 Oh, hey and sponge!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 26, 2024 01:03 PM (JMAcK)

4
Wotan had a posse, the self-styled "Wotan Clan".

Posted by: Xokrebs v Xocarnot: My Authenticity is Off the Charts (TM)! at June 26, 2024 01:06 PM (xG4kz)

5 Scotus is asshoe.

Posted by: BignJames at June 26, 2024 01:06 PM (AwYPR)

6 Every f'n citizen in this country has standing fukwits.

Posted by: fd at June 26, 2024 01:06 PM (vFG9F)

7 "In Trump's case, this pertains to alleged offenses in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election."

Ah yes. Attempting to stop the blatant fraud is "overturning" an "election".

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 26, 2024 01:06 PM (JMAcK)

8 It's looking more and more like there will need to be nationwide "Battles of Athens, TN".

(That was from when corruption was mainly localized. Like everything else, the Democrats have nationalized it.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 26, 2024 01:08 PM (JMAcK)

9 Wow, 4 of the top ten. Maybe I should nood

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (JMAcK)

10 If Trump wins the election, he could simply instruct the Justice Department to abandon its prosecution of him -- a move that would elicit howls of protest.

And howls of laughter.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (WnooC)

11 Not first, and i can live with that.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (pohLc)

12 Overturning Fraud is an official duty. Even challenging the results of the overflowing toilet stoppage of the count in six states ... seems like an official duty.

In any case, imo, the current lawfare against Trump is Exhibit A in why Presidents need broader immunity from political enemies.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (Cus5s)

13 One-Trick Coney cares about nothing but abortion. Which she has turned out to be.

Posted by: S CT is Worthless at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (1wdUl)

14 "In Trump's case, this pertains to alleged offenses in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election."

Ah yes. Attempting to stop the blatant fraud is "overturning" an "election".
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

--

Like Pelosi helpfully admitted a month or so ago:

Everyone knows it happened. The problem was Trump complained about it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (pCGKd)

15 This ruling is not surprising to me.

Its like the Obama birch cert case, we don't want to deal with it so we will just say you 'don't have standing' on an issue that CLEARLY impacts every person in the nation.

The Supremes put themselves into the position of being final arbiter of the Constitution... and then... won't do the fucking job.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (xaFKb)

16 But muh Federalist Society or Heritage Foundation or whatever. Fuck.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (HWur+)

17 Thor is where we get Thursday.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (5IFb9)

18 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

19 The Supremes put themselves into the position of being final arbiter of the Constitution... and then... won't do the fucking job.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (xaFKb)

They mysteriously will when it can help the Left.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (HWur+)

20 I for one do not ------- anything this ruling ------- says and furthermore, ------- and ------ can take their ruling and -------it where the ------ -------- shine. ------ your censorship you ----------- asshats.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (W/lyH)

21 I have neither the legal nor intellectual chops to comment on this thread, so I think I'll call it a day. I'll be back on Friday for JJs after-action report on Stinkfinger's 'debate.'

Hope you all have a lovely week.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (Q0kLU)

22 Knew Kavanaugh was weak while watching his confirmation process. Never liked Barret. She and Kav answer to Roberts, who is a big POS.

1st Amendment 1791-2024. Had a good run...?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (K861k)

23 Whig had a good writeup on this earlier and should repost it.

He's not spraying up and lighting his hair on fire over this......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

24 The no standing is on brand though... only tells me that the IC has the goods on the SC majority.
Barrett's kids are probably her soft point.
Kavanaugh... maybe some of the beach friend stories are true?

Posted by: Inogame at June 26, 2024 01:11 PM (53oGX)

25 Yeah, let's make the govt the arbiter of "truth." What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Halfhand at June 26, 2024 01:11 PM (T4iZG)

26 Thor is where we get Thursday.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge"

I'm always thor after Saturday nights at Mary's.

Posted by: Pawl at June 26, 2024 01:11 PM (vFG9F)

27 It's looking more and more like there will need to be nationwide "Battles of Athens, TN".

(That was from when corruption was mainly localized. Like everything else, the Democrats have nationalized it.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

I'm afraid that if I'm forced to start shooting, I won't want to stop. 40+ years of pent up anger towards the dems.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2024 01:11 PM (WnooC)

28 I'm confused. I thought the proper term was "humpteenth"?

or in this particular case the "Wednesday following humpteenth" or "Humptwentysixteenth".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2024 01:11 PM (oUxZc)

29 "Neither US citizens nor the US Constitution have standing. Next!'

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 26, 2024 01:12 PM (BPchf)

30 Prediction: Trump's "excellent S Ct picks" will manage to f-up the immunity case too. Law Review Nerds are wrecking this country.

Posted by: S CT is Worthless at June 26, 2024 01:12 PM (1wdUl)

31 Shoulda bribed Sotomayor with a burrito.

Posted by: wth at June 26, 2024 01:12 PM (v0R5T)

32 23 Whig had a good writeup on this earlier and should repost it.

He's not spraying up and lighting his hair on fire over this......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

=========

Well...

"The ruling in the court case is about a preliminary injunction against the federal government for censorship. What the court implies is that the plaintiffs which are the states and individuals have not successfully indicated through evidence that a preliminary injunction is warranted. The court case in the district court will continue as far as damages to the individuals involved in the case but there will be no ban on the federal government exercising censorship of social media until the court case concludes and the remedy is issued by the district court if the plaintiffs win.

The standard for a preliminary injunction is that the plaintiffs must show that they are likely to prevail and that they suffer irreparable harm from the actions of the defendant.
Posted by: whig at June 26, 2024 11:53 AM (pT08h)"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)

33 Remember, this is the 'ultra conservative' Supreme Court!

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (i7Q7S)

34 The Supremes put themselves into the position of being final arbiter of the Constitution... and then... won't do the fucking job.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (xaFKb)

How's that working out for ya? Effing John Marshall and Marbury.

Posted by: Zombie Jimbo Madison at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (K861k)

35 ACB has made right calls in the past but she is far from consistent. Kavanaugh has always been squishy.

I’d consider 1. Gorsuch 2.ACB 3. Kavanaugh out of the Trump appointees.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (tAhMh)

36 Seems like it was a standing issue ? They didn't rule on the merits, correct ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (NtVYv)

37 36 Seems like it was a standing issue ? They didn't rule on the merits, correct ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (NtVYv)

=======

Yeah.

The trial continues in the 5th Circuit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

38 Hope you all have a lovely week.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Have a wonderful day and come back because I'd miss you if you didn't.

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (F3Dlr)

39 at some point they stopped being judges and became Ephors

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (D7oie)

40 It's important to remember that ACB went through her confirmation hearing without relying on notes...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (KbCG3)

41 Somewhat apropos, I am back in NYC for the first time since June of '21.

Looking out the panoramic window from the top floor of Hudson Yards and gazing down at the city, it's hard to fight the spirit of Rorschach taking over me.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (qQky4)

42 >>>If Trump wins the election, he could simply instruct the Justice Department to abandon its prosecution of him -- a move that would elicit howls of protest.

They can still have the trial after the election even if Trump wins.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (xPl2J)

43 The Supremes put themselves into the position of being final arbiter of the Constitution... and then... won't do the fucking job.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:10 PM (xaFKb)

I was just teaching this lesson to my children.

They have recently started attending a charter school after being homeschooled for 7 years.

Even in this charter school, the teachers are applying collective punishments for the misbehavior of single children.

I explained that this is what our world has become. EVERYONE with authority is scared to death of the consequences of rightfully wielding that authority- so they shirk their duties, and become unjust because of it.

Supreme Court is just the largest example of how cowardly our culture has become.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (JMAcK)

44 So, unless the junta's censorship regime ACTUALLY TAKES PHYSICAL FORM AND PUNCHES YOU IN THE FACE, you have no standing.

Okay.

And it seems the skirt Barrett is in fact a stealth liberal.
And Roberts has no spine.

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (/7KEl)

45 "Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh Join John Roberts and the Liberals to Uphold the Biden Administration's Persistent Unconstitutional Censorship of Americans"

Friendly edit suggestion:
From "Liberals" to "other Liberal gurlz"

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (gxokI)

46 The court case in the district court will continue as far as damages to the individuals involved in the case but there will be no ban on the federal government exercising censorship of social media until the court case concludes and the remedy is issued by the district court if the plaintiffs win.

So, they punted.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

47 ACB really *does* bake with margarine, doesn't she?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (llON8)

48 If any news deserves a Flaming Skull this does

Posted by: Notstrodumbass at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (dzZCL)

49 More whig
"Preliminary injunctions have a high legal threshold. Essentially the district court and the 5th concluded without a formal trial record that the damage of government censorship made it likely for the plaintiffs to win and that they are experiencing irreparable harm from that.

I would argue that the court is ignoring past precedent on first amendment issues and am unclear about States acting on behalf of their citizens against the federal government I would need to research those precedents.

what Barrett is arguing is that the supreme Court acts as an appellate court not as a trial court. The proper place to introduce evidence is at the district court level but by issuing a preliminary injunction based on a couple of Court hearings and submissions by the plaintiff is being rejected by the supreme Court as insufficient to warrant a sweeping ban on government communications with social media. Again I think it is unwarranted by the court and cowardly but this is also the cost of appointing those with judicial restraint as their primary influence on their Court opinions. Judicial restraint becomes a ratchet where the left wins and consolidates its opinion"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

50 36 Seems like it was a standing issue ? They didn't rule on the merits, correct ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (NtVYv)

But, as they ruled they do not have standing, then the case will get thrown out by the lower court, as the lawsuit is not valid, because of a lack of standing.

A lack of standing affects all courts. Case is done.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)

51 Can we just eliminate from Supreme Court consideration all Womyn? JFC. She was supposed to be the most "constitutionalist" of all the choices?

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (xaNfJ)

52 25 Yeah, let's make the govt the arbiter of "truth." What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Halfhand at June 26, 2024 01:11 PM (T4iZG)

This worked for us! Citizens cannot be trusted and forfeited our confidence in any case.

Posted by: German Democratic Republic at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (tAhMh)

53 Remember, Nancy Pelosi only recently said that the Court 'has gone rogue.'

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (/7KEl)

54 And Roberts has no spine.
Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:14 PM (/7KEl)

Remember, shortly after Roberts was confirmed as Chief Justice, he had some freak accident on a pier where his head was smashed and he spent some time in the hospital, I believe...........

Likely not an accident as reported.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)

55 whig is not an attorney

Posted by: runner at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (V13WU)

56
Amy Coney Island -- whitefish

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (x0n13)

57 50 But, as they ruled they do not have standing, then the case will get thrown out by the lower court, as the lawsuit is not valid, because of a lack of standing.

A lack of standing affects all courts. Case is done.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)

========

There was no standing for the injunction which was the only thing in front of SCOTUS. The case itself continues in the lower court.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

58 Kavanaugh, of course, is also a weak sister. We fought for this guy?

Said it at the time ... you can't trust a man that cries that profusely in public.

Posted by: It Is What It Is at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (tez6A)

59 White supremacists sad
Can’t spread hate

Posted by: Troll at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (fLTrP)

60 A few more comments on Norse mythology:

1. It's not unusual for the father-god to be a late addition to pantheons. Zeus himself was probably a late addition. The reason he is in so many stories with different women is probably that he took over from an existing god in the pantheon, and the stories -- including the earlier god's woman -- were modified to include him.

2. The Norse mythology is unusual in that the god of beauty is a man, Baldur. (In some tales there is a goddess of beauty as well, Freya.) This always seemed odd to me because the Norse (unlike some ancient cultures) were fierce heteros.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (iFTx/)

61 I am hoping Trump learned something about making poor appointments. He needs to have a team working right now to vet possible candidates for a multitude of appointments. He won last time while expecting to lose, so was caught flat footed, he doesn't have any excuses this time. He should have a list of good candidates with their resumes attached for every major government position, save the ones he is eliminating, and a strategy for the elimination of said departments.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (pohLc)

62 "Why are we nominating liberals to serve for life on the Supreme Court?!?!"

===========

Kind of amazing that GW Bush went from Harriet Miers to Justice Alito.

It certainly is a crap shoot.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (i7Q7S)

63 We needed fire breathers on the court. The problem is our fire breathers aren't willing to lie as hard and for as long as the Left's.

Our fire breathers are more about reality and the truth and the integrity of the law. Theirs are phony deceitful scum which makes them perfect for the nominating process and service of a political party.

Our fire breathers are fair, theirs will rule for themselves and their people 500 times in a row and never even blink.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (HWur+)

64 Troll is asshoe.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)

65 Dumb bitch needs to bone up on her Constitutional knowledge. Something about a 1st Amendment?

When the Big Supremes punt a case, essentially granting The State power to censor speech they don't like, it's pretty clear that we are in a post-Constitutional age. They aren't even bothering to pretend anymore.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (7wpxI)

66 46 The court case in the district court will continue as far as damages to the individuals involved in the case but there will be no ban on the federal government exercising censorship of social media until the court case concludes and the remedy is issued by the district court if the plaintiffs win.

So, they punted.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

No, they as always, sided with the Government, against the Citizen.

Funny how a Group who have always worked for the Government (all are long time Judges)... are selected by Politicians, and are paid for by the Government.... pretty much always agree WITH the Government...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (xaFKb)

67 64 Troll is asshoe.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)

=======

I've never denied it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)

68 2. The Norse mythology is unusual in that the god of beauty is a man, Baldur. (In some tales there is a goddess of beauty as well, Freya.) This always seemed odd to me because the Norse (unlike some ancient cultures) were fierce heteros.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (iFTx/)

I am Baldur than I used to be

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (NtVYv)

69 I withdraw my consent

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (hF4JZ)

70 33 Remember, this is the 'ultra conservative' Supreme Court!
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (i7Q7S)

All but three Justices were appointed by members of an illegal political party,

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (tAhMh)

71
Amy Coney Island -- whitefish
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (x0n13)

Everything going ok so far?

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (HWur+)

72 59 White supremacists sad
Can’t spread hate
Posted by: Troll at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (fLTrP)

You can't spread hate, so you stick with bullshit.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (pohLc)

73 Conservative Supreme Court picks just like Congressional picks too often are sheep in wolves clothing.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (ZDsBk)

74 This always seemed odd to me because the Norse (unlike some ancient cultures) were fierce heteros.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Just like Cory Booker!

Posted by: Kratwurst at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (nIRE6)

75 "They have not released the ruling on presidential immunity yet and, based on this ruling, I'm not at all hopeful."

No standing.

Posted by: SCOTUS at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (VGRuw)

76 MAGA ban from social media
Scotus says OK
American wins

Posted by: Troll at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (fLTrP)

77 Amy Coney Island -- whitefish
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (x0n13)

Amy Coney Island --- Weiner

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 26, 2024 01:19 PM (NtVYv)

78 We fought for this guy?

---

One of the most successful tactics of the left is that they never seem to have to pick their battles. They'll fight you on *everything.* So you never even know what they're actually afraid of. Pretty hard to figure out that it's not a battle you need to fight when your opponents throw out multiple stupid and laughable false rape accusations in the way to stop you.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 26, 2024 01:20 PM (B9Prs)

79 51 Can we just eliminate from Supreme Court consideration all Womyn? JFC. She was supposed to be the most "constitutionalist" of all the choices?
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June

Neither Kavanaugh nor Roberts are women.

Posted by: Piper at June 26, 2024 01:20 PM (pZEOD)

80 DURING PRIDE MONTH???

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 26, 2024 01:20 PM (qO9hU)

81 61 I am hoping Trump learned something about making poor appointments. He needs to have a team working right now to vet possible candidates for a multitude of appointments. He won last time while expecting to lose, so was caught flat footed, he doesn't have any excuses this time. He should have a list of good candidates with their resumes attached for every major government position, save the ones he is eliminating, and a strategy for the elimination of said departments.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 26, 2024 01:17 PM (pohLc)

The biggest problem Trump had in 2017 was that he didn’t have an army of his own people to appoint as other Presidents have had. If he learns from that and wins in November it’s possible his second term will be better than his first.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 26, 2024 01:20 PM (tAhMh)

82 22
‘ Kavanaugh was weak while watching his confirmation process’

Cried during his testimony . That’s when I realized he was a puss

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (4N+fF)

83 Why are we nominating liberals to serve for life on the Supreme Court?!?!

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Because Mitch McConnel and the legal beagles all so-called conservatives turn to for their judicial recommendations are part of the uniparty.

Always have been.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (dGCAG)

84 Just an aside, but why do we have to say all three names of these prominent women? Why not just Amy Barrett, or Marjorie Green?
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Sincerely, Pugsley van der Schnabel Mahon

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (xPJvm)

85
I think it was the Germanic languages that substituted the local gods for the Roman/Greek gods and weekday names.

In Latin, the weekdays were dies Solis, dies Lunae, Martis, Mercurii, Iovis (Jupiter), Veneris, Saturni.

French and the Romance languages preserved that mostly, expect for Sunday and Saturday.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (w6EFb)

86 No, they as always, sided with the Government, against the Citizen.

Yep. Folks ... most of you here simply are not "typical" Republicans. Typical Republicans agree with Democrats that Government should control things. The argument is over what that control should look like and ultimately produce.

You are the RINOs. Roberts, Kav, and ACB are not.

Posted by: It Is What It Is at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (tez6A)

87 I think many knew it was over with the bs Obamacare ruling. Throw in tranny cake and "marriage" and people had to have figured out it wasn't all 4D chess to get Romney elected.

Nor does Roberts give a shit about the "integrity" or "reputation" of the court. That train sailed with It's a Tax. Roberts does what's good for Roberts and his paymasters.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (HWur+)

88 Coney Hatch > Amy Coney Barrett

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (xPl2J)

89 It’s worth remembering that Sandra Day O’Connor was OK at first…but became more lib as time went on. (But hey, she was the first woman justice! Yay!)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (tAhMh)

90 If Trump wins the election, he could simply instruct the Justice Department to abandon its prosecution of him -- a move that would elicit howls of protest.

And howls of laughter.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2024 01:09 PM (WnooC)

And when the rent-a-mobs riot in the streets over it, machine-gun them, in droves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (ZE4/d)

91 There needs to be a different word for "liberal". It doesn't mean "objects to imposed behavior standards and open to trying new things" any more. It means "using whatever means possible to impose things upon people"

Posted by: Azjaeger at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (dkm23)

92 I'll be honest though, the Court is part of the problem too.

Always has been. The people will rise up to fight back on tyranny, or we won't. Expecting a top down "ruling" to save us was never going to work.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (dGCAG)

93 82
I’m not meaning crying over a bad day is weak. Just save it for the car ride home like us real men.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (4N+fF)

94 Trump made his picks from the Heritage list which many thought was the best idea. Him being a builder, one who reads schematics and plans ahead, will make better choices this time. One prays.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (ZDsBk)

95 That whole integrity and reputation thing is a scripted cover story for Skunk Roberts. Not unlike straight shootin Comey and all the ham and eggers.

Seems believable enough for a time but it's intended to keep you from seeing what is otherwise right in front of your face.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (HWur+)

96 I suspect a lot of pagan gods were originally real warlords/chiefs.

So perhaps Odin, or Thor, was a particularly successful bronze age warlord and claimed a relation to the other...

I did like American God's take on Odin though their take on Thor was really really dark.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (oZhjI)

97 There was no standing for the injunction which was the only thing in front of SCOTUS. The case itself continues in the lower court.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

If I understand the procedure correctly, the injunction was put in place, in an existing Lawsuit, because the Judge said there was a very good chance the Government was continuing to deny 1st Amendment protections.

The Government then elevated this all the way to the Supremes, to get that order rescinded... but the base case and plaintiffs are still the same.

So if the Supremes throw out the order, due to a lack of standing (ie, can't show damage} how does that NOT impact the lower case, as the Supremes just said they have no right to sue.... due to a lack of proof of damage.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (xaFKb)

98 Eric Holder, who served as attorney general in the "Obama administration, sounded a warning during a recent interview with Nicolle Wallace of MSNBC.

Holder alluded to the prospect of the justices ruling that a president can be prosecuted for private acts but not for "official" acts undertaken in the course of his duties."

That's standard Federal personnel practice. There's no alluding from Holder necessary.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (NFX2v)

99 And when the rent-a-mobs riot in the streets over it, machine-gun them, in droves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

That's a terrible thing to say!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (qZEuM)

100 Nor does Roberts give a shit about the "integrity" or "reputation" of the court. That train sailed with It's a Tax. Roberts does what's good for Roberts and his paymasters.
Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (HWur+)

Roberts acts as if he is President of the HS student council and only wants to do what is necessary to appeal to the cool kids. Which you know who those are in DC.

If he isn’t getting invites to the cool inside the beltway cocktail parties he will be very sad. Doing the right thing takes a back seat to that objective.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (tAhMh)

101 Roberts would be perfectly happy if the Court didn't take any cases

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (/7KEl)

102 Seriously? WTF on "lack of standing"? The First Amendment is pretty black and white law. Either the government is abridging speech or not. There is no lack of standing to "the people".

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (xT7BI)

103 In all honesty ... the best justice appointed yet not confirmed, in my lifetime, was a woman. Janice Rogers Brown.

Posted by: It Is What It Is at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (tez6A)

104 92 I'll be honest though, the Court is part of the problem too.
Always has been. The people will rise up to fight back on tyranny, or we won't. Expecting a top down "ruling" to save us was never going to work.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Court is more afraid of them than us.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (ZDsBk)

105 If someone was vaxxed and suffered side effects, would they have standing to sue? Experts were deplatformed at state behest, preventing victims from being fully informed about the dangers of the mrna poison.

What about Trump? In addition to widespread fraud, state suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story cost him the election.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (ogTiX)

106 Hung for a sheep as a lamb. Might as well be a jackal this time. Be what they say you are. Be worse. That's what I'd like to see but I don't think it's possible.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (HWur+)

107 Just an aside, but why do we have to say all three names of these prominent women? Why not just Amy Barrett, or Marjorie Green?
--
Sincerely, Pugsley van der Schnabel Mahon
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (xPJvm)

Your misogyny is just dripping, like my cooch for several days a month.

Posted by: Alexandra Occasional Kotex at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (dGCAG)

108 about hetero norsemen and Beautiful Balder..

well, gods have to be flexible to fit into existing beliefs

and norsemen have to be flexible when at sea for long stretches...

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 01:24 PM (s3qiR)

109 You are the RINOs. Roberts, Kav, and ACB are not.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (tez6A)

Uh, I'm not a Republican... have not been for decades.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (xaFKb)

110 106 Hung for a sheep as a lamb. Might as well be a jackal this time. Be what they say you are. Be worse. That's what I'd like to see but I don't think it's possible.

well not yet, anyway

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (s3qiR)

111 In honor of the upcoming day linked with the God of Thunder, this John Boardman classic, in which Thor enjoys a dalliance with a comely maid:

Thor's glances strayed unto a maid with hair as gold as grain,
A lisp so shy, a downcast eye, and not a trace of brain.
He swept her charms into his arms and to an upstairs bower,
And did not cease or give her ease for three days and an hour.

When he arose and donned his clothes she looked like one near death.
Her limbs were weak, she could not speak, and scarcely gasped for breath.
"You ought to know, before I go, I'm Thor," he bade adieu.
"You 're thore!" said she. "Conthider me! I'm thorer; thir; than you!"

Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (ENHQb)

112 Off the top of my head, I think about the only circumstance where a man is justified in crying is when their dog dies. Other than that, stoicism..

Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (JwHpX)

113 97 So if the Supremes throw out the order, due to a lack of standing (ie, can't show damage} how does that NOT impact the lower case, as the Supremes just said they have no right to sue.... due to a lack of proof of damage.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (xaFKb)

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Everything is right up until here.

The case continues to be argued in the 5th. The injunction was denied, but there's no order to kill the case.

The 5th seems like a honey badger and will probably just keep going even if SCOTUS may be signaling that it doesn't want any more of it, but the end of an injunction is never an end to an underlying trial anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

114 Back during the cold war the left would complain, endlessly, if there was any operational security on anything the government did to stop communism down to the names of the people involved.

And now of course they and their junta claim not only to not need to share that sort of information, but full control of the mass media so no details of say its COVID or Ukraine operation come to light

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (oZhjI)

115 There needs to be a different word for "liberal". It doesn't mean "objects to imposed behavior standards and open to trying new things" any more. It means "using whatever means possible to impose things upon people"
Posted by: Azjaeger at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (dkm23)

How about Marxist or Tyranny? Seems to fit your second quote?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminator, LTD. at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (K861k)

116 Nor does Roberts give a shit about the "integrity" or "reputation" of the court. That train sailed with It's a Tax. Roberts does what's good for Roberts and his paymasters.
Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (HWur+)

Not the same scope of negative consequences but his ruling that casinos could open while churches had to remain closed during the pandemic is where I knew he was defective in every way.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (SHMXB)

117 ace, the Vanir and the Aesir are the two houses of the Norse pantheon, the indication is that there was a synthesis of two mythologies that combined their pantheons, with a fair amount of jostling.
This is considered to be a valid argument for two cultures co-mingling, and in support of this is the appearance in Germanic languages of non-indo-european words, these being words like Oak, Sheep/ewe, Horse, Deer, and some others.
wild handwaving and lack of any real evidence has pushed the idea that this is either an example of the post-Yamnaya pastoralist migration in to northern Europe combining with the farming cultures already there, or something picked up on the way.

Odin is interesting in that he is not the lead warrior whom all the other gods follow, or the lawgiver who directs the correct path, but the planner and schemer who directs the rest from his cruelly achieved wisdom, his memory and thought, and his cold machinations

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (D7oie)

118 I read the decision and the dissent. The majority got it wrong. The dissent got it right. That being said, this is another case where I think the procedural posture made it very difficult for the plaintiffs to win.

This appeal was from grant of a broad preliminary injunction. Such injunctions are difficult to get -- and are supposed to be -- because they impose relief against a defendant before there has been a full consideration of the case. It's sometimes harder to get a preliminary injunction than it is to win the case itself.

That, plus the fact that the conduct the plaintiffs were complaining about took place during Covid, gave the weaklings on the court all the cover they needed to make this bad decision.

I'm not sure what happens next. Do the plaintiffs get to replead to include more of the kind of links the majority claims is necessary for standing?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (iFTx/)

119 All those people who said if they knew the laptop was real they would have voted for Trump instead and he would have won by 10 points. Where are they again? Or were those "polls" just more bs?

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (HWur+)

120 ***In practical terms, such a process would almost surely extend the case beyond November's election. If Trump wins the election, he could simply instruct the Justice Department to abandon its prosecution of him -- a move that would elicit howls of protest.***
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They couldn't protest any louder if his dismantled the DOJ.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (ZDsBk)

121 "It’s worth remembering that Sandra Day O’Connor was OK at first"

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So was John McCain.

They all "grow" in office.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (i7Q7S)

122 I have to wonder how a case like this made it all the way to the Supreme Court only to be shot down because it was more or less incomplete. So, it goes back to 5th Circuit to get completed?

What a clown show.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (Q4IgG)

123 122 I have to wonder how a case like this made it all the way to the Supreme Court only to be shot down because it was more or less incomplete. So, it goes back to 5th Circuit to get completed?

What a clown show.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (Q4IgG)

========

The case did not go.

The 5th's ruling on the injunction went.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

124 My favorite "lack of standing" moment was when the SC argued in succession that in event of a stolen election none of the following had grounds to sue:

The candidate the election was stolen from
The states
The citizens

So...whose "sacred democracy" is it anyway?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (oZhjI)

125 Off the top of my head, I think about the only circumstance where a man is justified in crying is when their dog dies. Other than that, stoicism..
Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (JwHpX)

What the hell?

Posted by: Moms everywhere at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (SHMXB)

126 While I don't like saying it, the truth is that the 2 best justices came to us courtesy of the Bush family.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (1bNHn)

127 Not the same scope of negative consequences but his ruling that casinos could open while churches had to remain closed during the pandemic is where I knew he was defective in every way.
Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 01:26 PM (SHMXB)

That one's pretty freakin bad.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (HWur+)

128 we got zips in the wire again
don't these people ever give up

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (/7KEl)

129 I'm not sure what happens next. Do the plaintiffs get to replead to include more of the kind of links the majority claims is necessary for standing?

I'm not sure either, but it sounds like the case is proceeding according to plaintiffs on X

just no injunction. I dunno.

Berenson says his case is The Best One and mayhaps he's right. he can be annoying, however.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (s3qiR)

130 96 I suspect a lot of pagan gods were originally real warlords/chiefs.

So perhaps Odin, or Thor, was a particularly successful bronze age warlord and claimed a relation to the other...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:23 PM (oZhjI)

So you're saying that if the Leftists are allowed to continue ruling us with an iron fist, we'll soon have Crazy Horse-day instead of Wednesday, and Che Guevara-day instead of Sunday, and so on?

Posted by: Gref at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (5fDan)

131 Just call them communists.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (qZEuM)

132 125 What the hell?
Posted by: Moms everywhere at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (SHMXB)

========

I make sure to send my old doctor a nice note on Mother's Day.

He was the one who delivered me, you know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

133 So was John McCain.

He was purchased early on as a Senator - in fact he was the only R in the Keating 5...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (oZhjI)

134 well, look at it this way, if hillary had won, the sup court would have ruled that the 2nd amendment only protects your right to keep and bear arms when you are actively serving in an official state militia. otherwise no gun, hunny

you can imagine how a hillary supreme court might have ruled during the whole covid thing.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (CWTWj)

135 Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Roberts are not Liberals, They are GOPe.

GOPe doesn't want to be constrained any more than the Dems do when it comes to Free Speech, etc.

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (SYTee)

136
Amy Coney Barrett is a Roman religionist, so see what that got ya? Yup. Mafia.

Posted by: Auspex at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (j4U/Z)

137 133 He was purchased early on as a Senator - in fact he was the only R in the Keating 5...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (oZhjI)

=======

"We'll get you into trouble and then get you out."

"What if I don't get into trouble in the first place?"

"Then we'll destroy you."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

138 you need to fight when your opponents throw out multiple stupid and laughable false rape accusations in the way to stop you.
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I believe her! Well, me, actually.

Posted by: Psycho Christine Blasey Ford at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (XeU6L)

139 What the hell?
Posted by: Moms everywhere at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (SHMXB)
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Hmmm.... let me see... mother died....

Nope. Not on the list.

Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (JwHpX)

140 122 I have to wonder how a case like this made it all the way to the Supreme Court only to be shot down because it was more or less incomplete. So, it goes back to 5th Circuit to get completed?

the fedgov pushed for this, not sure why

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (s3qiR)

141 So you're saying that if the Leftists are allowed to continue ruling us with an iron fist, we'll soon have Crazy Horse-day instead of Wednesday, and Che Guevara-day instead of Sunday, and so on?

TGIF

Thank Gaia its Fauciday!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (oZhjI)

142 The 5th seems like a honey badger and will probably just keep going even if SCOTUS may be signaling that it doesn't want any more of it, but the end of an injunction is never an end to an underlying trial anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

So a lawyer will go to the 5th, and say that the Supremes have said this case is moot, as the Supremes, ie the highest court, have decreed they have no standing to sue.

So unless the 5th then says F U to the Supremes... how does this case continue?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (xaFKb)

143 Coney was part of a pseudocatholic cult that " The affidavit, which was detailed in a report by The Guardian published Monday, also described alleged instances in which the founder of People of Praise and his wife took part in "sexual displays" in front of children and others."

The bitch is severely compromised and wants to avoid videos?

Posted by: enough BS at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (2NXcZ)

144 Hell I get misty when the grandma finally receives the call from her smart military grandson overseas in those old AT&T commercials. But I don't think that's the same as wailing like a girl.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (HWur+)

145 All lack of standing means, practically, is that a court doesn't want the headache of dealing with an issue and potentially get blowback.

So SCOTUS is going to let the inferior courts do the dirty work.

Bunch of fa**ot a** fa**ot's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (qQky4)

146 Troll is asshoe.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)

They all are. And they all believe the asshoe is a sex organ.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (ZE4/d)

147 Chevron would be the biggest get. The commerce clause is just over the horizon.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (ogTiX)

148
"What if I don't get into trouble in the first place?"

"Then we'll destroy you."

Madison Cawthorn (sp?) said after election he got invited to parties where sex and drugs were on the menu.

I assume he said no because the GOPe worked harder against him then the Dems in the next election cycle.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (oZhjI)

149 "Justice Jackson's dissent"

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Jackie Chiles would be a better justice.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (i7Q7S)

150 142 So a lawyer will go to the 5th, and say that the Supremes have said this case is moot, as the Supremes, ie the highest court, have decreed they have no standing to sue.

So unless the 5th then says F U to the Supremes... how does this case continue?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (xaFKb)

=======

SCOTUS did not rule on the case.

They ruled on the injunction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

151 also i don't know if it's still there but someone posted the whole ring cycle from the royal opera house c 2006 in 10 minute bites. some of it was very entertaining. the fire god in rheingold looked like a character straight out of a charles dickens novel

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2024 01:31 PM (CWTWj)

152 ACB has made right calls in the past but she is far from consistent. Kavanaugh has always been squishy.

I’d consider 1. Gorsuch 2.ACB 3. Kavanaugh out of the Trump appointees.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM (tAhMh)

We could have had Garland instead.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2024 01:31 PM (D7oie)

153 If you view the Feds as duty appointed representatives of rhe People who act with good faith to best serve the Citizen, then I can see why a judge would choose to punt on this and let it continue through the court process.

If however you view the Feds as money grubbing, power hungry, usurpers of inalienable rights at every opportunity in order to more harshly rule over and punish their subjects, like I do, then I can see why a judge would want to smack the Feds down as hard as possible.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:31 PM (nIBG7)

154 This Odin guy had some interesting ideas...some very interesting ideas...

Posted by: Michael Hutchence at June 26, 2024 01:31 PM (oZhjI)

155 I'm not sure what happens next. Do the plaintiffs get to replead to include more of the kind of links the majority claims is necessary for standing?

I'm not sure either, but it sounds like the case is proceeding according to plaintiffs on X

just no injunction. I dunno.

Berenson says his case is The Best One and mayhaps he's right. he can be annoying, however.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (s3qiR)
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The prelim injunction was for future and ongoing conduct. The government conceded that the plaintiffs were injured by past conduct, but denied any ongoing injury. So I think, yea, the case itself goes on. But I'm not sure how the court's decision on standing impacts the overall case.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

156 Breaking: Supreme Court rules that Macy Gray has plenty of standing to ban the flag.

The American Flag is now a tranny taking a dump on a white person's face on one half and the silhouette of a baby's head with a pair of medical scissors through it on the other.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:32 PM (HWur+)

157 They just need to censor for one more election, then perhaps "resistance will be futile"? ... as if Google alone is not effective enough at warping reality, bending facts to form The Narrative.

Google is still like 90+% of the search traffic, and with Facebook and YouTube censoring and shadow-banning, they have most of the country shielded from those "racist deplorable haters".

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2024 01:33 PM (Cus5s)

158 154 This Odin guy had some interesting ideas...some very interesting ideas...
Posted by: Michael Hutchence at June 26, 2024 01:31 PM (oZhjI)

Odin >> Onan

Posted by: SCOTUS at June 26, 2024 01:33 PM (VGRuw)

159 I make sure to send my old doctor a nice note on Mother's Day.

He was the one who delivered me, you know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

When my birthing person went into labor, my father fired up the Oldsmobile, and hauled her arse to the hospital.

I send a card to GM the second Saturday, before the second Sunday in May ever year.

I'd send my dad a card, but he ded.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:33 PM (dGCAG)

160 SCOTUS did not rule on the case.

They ruled on the injunction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

The injunction is part of the case... its an order IN the case.... it does not have separate plaintiffs.

How can you say the injunction is not valid, due to the plaintiffs not having standing... and then somehow argue they will still HAVE standing in the original suit?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (xaFKb)

161 Sitting here and typing
Fuck Justice Barrett's opinion
While I still can.

Posted by: DaveA at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (FhXTo)

162 150 142 So a lawyer will go to the 5th, and say that the Supremes have said this case is moot, as the Supremes, ie the highest court, have decreed they have no standing to sue.

So unless the 5th then says F U to the Supremes... how does this case continue?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (xaFKb)

=======

SCOTUS did not rule on the case.

They ruled on the injunction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)
_______

Yes, but the decision on standing arguably affects the entire case. See my comments above.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

163 So, who would have standing?

That's the absolutely infuriating part of their ever shifting "standing" bullshit:
It's always changing to always end in the same spot--big government gets bigger.

BTW: this roundtable of blacks in Atlanta is awesome. Trump just called in.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (dAS6g)

164 Yeah, but would anyone screw ACB?

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (vF7gj)

165 Hmmm.... let me see... mother died....

Nope. Not on the list.
Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2024 01:29 PM (JwHpX)

I've had some of the toughest men on the planet in my office. The vast majority of them end up crying at some point.

Mainly because it's not socially frowned upon, like it is by people who don't understand humans.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (dGCAG)

166 While I don't like saying it, the truth is that the 2 best justices came to us courtesy of the Bush family.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2024 01:27 PM (1bNHn)

And Harriet Miers would not have been as good as Alito has been but she would have been better than the rest of the GOP justices except Thomas.

She would also have been the only justice in recent memory where I would give credit or blame to the President who selected them. Usually the selections are just recommendations and the President doesn’t know them in a personal way.

I do give a little credit to Bush Sr for Clarence Thomas. The easy thing to do would have been to abandoned him. Instead he dug in and gave 100% support. Thank God.

Posted by: Moms everywhere at June 26, 2024 01:35 PM (SHMXB)

167 160 The injunction is part of the case... its an order IN the case.... it does not have separate plaintiffs.

How can you say the injunction is not valid, due to the plaintiffs not having standing... and then somehow argue they will still HAVE standing in the original suit?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (xaFKb)

Yes, but the decision on standing arguably affects the entire case. See my comments above.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

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And then you have the actual defendants in the case saying that the trial is moving forward.

As you said, the prelim injunction was for future relief, not past. Why would that affect the trial over past behavior?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

168 Men will cry when one of their hero athletes makes their retirement announcement.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:36 PM (xPl2J)

169 Just an aside, but why do we have to say all three names of these prominent women? Why not just Amy Barrett, or Marjorie Green?
--
Sincerely, Pugsley van der Schnabel Mahon
-----

It started with Helen Gahagan Douglas, somehow dignified her affair with Lyndon Baines Johnson.

We should come up with a TLA, or abbrevaition that refers to such.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2024 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

170 Another inadvertent posting on the SC website.

They need to find the person responsible for leaking SC rulings in advance because the entire court looks foolish.

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 01:37 PM (F3Dlr)

171 Men will cry when one of their hero athletes makes their retirement announcement.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:36 PM (xPl2J)

I have never done this.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

172 * 'abbreviation', dammit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2024 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

173 NEW: Pioneering internet messenger ICQ shuts after 28 years

They were still around?

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:38 PM (xPl2J)

174 Off former washer of my socks .

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 01:38 PM (SHMXB)

175 And then you have the actual defendants in the case saying that the trial is moving forward.

As you said, the prelim injunction was for future relief, not past. Why would that affect the trial over past behavior?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

Uh, all laws are there to control future behavior, by punishing past behavior.

How can the Supremes then say, well, we're not going to stop this murder from happening, because no one is dead yet....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:38 PM (xaFKb)

176 Ron Swanson said it was acceptable to cry at funerals and the Grand Canyon

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:39 PM (/7KEl)

177 Men will cry when one of their hero athletes makes their retirement announcement.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:36 PM (xPl2J)

I have never done this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

Are you the one? F you!! F the F out of your F'n F!!!

Everyone cried for Mariano, but there had to be one... ONE person who didn't cry for me.

WAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: D Jeter at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

178 Yes, but the decision on standing arguably affects the entire case. See my comments above.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

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And then you have the actual defendants in the case saying that the trial is moving forward.

As you said, the prelim injunction was for future relief, not past. Why would that affect the trial over past behavior?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Because standing is a prerequisite to prosecute a case. If you don't have standing, you can't prosecute the case. It normally wouldn't matter what the procedural posture was. The majority's opinion seems deliberately vague in what it was actually deciding. Looks like the case will go back to the lower courts for them to figure it out.

At a minimum, I expect the defendants to now bring a motion to dismiss the case on the basis of standing. If they win that -- and the SC's decision if nothing else will help with that -- then the entire case is definitely gone.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

179 175 Uh, all laws are there to control future behavior, by punishing past behavior.

How can the Supremes then say, well, we're not going to stop this murder from happening, because no one is dead yet....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:38 PM (xaFKb)

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Can you find an example of an instance where injunction was denied and the case just stopped? I'm curious if it's actually happened because it seems like it would be really weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (GBKbO)

180 84 Just an aside, but why do we have to say all three names of these prominent women?

It's not like they're clowns or nothin'.

Posted by: John Wayne Gacy (D) at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (gKWVE)

181 Add plaintiffs to the suit who have standing according to SCOTUS’ ridiculous ruling. Refile the case.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (HicSp)

182 I will choke up at stories of ultimate sacrifice.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (SHMXB)

183 Men will cry when one of their hero athletes makes their retirement announcement.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 01:36 PM (xPl2J)

Never done that.

But I did well up a little when Walter Payton died.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (xPJvm)

184 Thor. Tyr/Tiw was the god of war, from where we get "Tuesday."

What?
I thought "Thursday" was Thor's day...which is also why the Germans call it "Donnerstag" (Thunder day).

Posted by: Luke Warmwater at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (yHCXl)

185 assassins get 3-named too

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (/7KEl)

186 PSA: I will have this in the GT on Sunday, but GA Arms is having an Independence Day sale - 10% off and free shipping.

Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (JwHpX)

187 OT - not sure if this would be too political for the Food Thread, but since all threads become a food thread - I will pimp Dorot frozen ginger and garlic again because they are tasty and convenient and from Israel, which is to say that with one purchase you can both de-fund CHYna and make a Columbia student cry.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (llON8)

188 84 Just an aside, but why do we have to say all three names of these prominent women?

They’re potential serial killers?

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (SHMXB)

189
I cried when 'ol Yeller died, you heartless bastards.

Posted by: Auspex at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (j4U/Z)

190 President Trump can tell the supreme court they don't have standing to enforce any of their bullpoo. Let's stop pretending politics is civil or orderly anymore. Burn it down and let's move on with the reconstruction

Posted by: FunkySeeFunkyDo at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (O5FBL)

191 178 Because standing is a prerequisite to prosecute a case. If you don't have standing, you can't prosecute the case. It normally wouldn't matter what the procedural posture was. The majority's opinion seems deliberately vague in what it was actually deciding. Looks like the case will go back to the lower courts for them to figure it out.

At a minimum, I expect the defendants to now bring a motion to dismiss the case on the basis of standing. If they win that -- and the SC's decision if nothing else will help with that -- then the entire case is definitely gone.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

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That I could buy, but it requires more steps from the case continuing on.

Not just stopping cold.

However, I find it hard to see the 5th going along with it, especially with vague language in the rejection of the injunction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

192 I could be wrong, but isn't the injunction to prevent the govt from ordering social media companies to censor? If so, the removal of injunction means Biden admin can theoretically fire out 1000s of emails directing social media to remove content while the lower courts are still working through the case.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (nIBG7)

193 Premature leak/posting of ruling was regarding allowing emergency abortions in Idaho.

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (F3Dlr)

194 I suspect a lot of pagan gods were originally real warlords/chiefs.

So perhaps Odin, or Thor, was a particularly successful bronze age warlord and claimed a relation to the other...

Snorri Sturluson, in his Prose Edda, says that the Aesir - that, is, "Men of Asia" - were refugees from Troy who convinced the local chiefs that they were gods.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (hB7mE)

195 Ron Swanson said it was acceptable to cry at funerals and the Grand Canyon
Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:39 PM (/7KEl)

Only reason to cry at the GC is too many rude Chi Nah tourists clogging up the roads and view spots.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (dGCAG)

196 192 I could be wrong, but isn't the injunction to prevent the govt from ordering social media companies to censor? If so, the removal of injunction means Biden admin can theoretically fire out 1000s of emails directing social media to remove content while the lower courts are still working through the case.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (nIBG7)

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The idea that they stopped always seemed silly to me, to be honest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

197 Wo Tan as Kam Fong.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 01:43 PM (98J/K)

198 >>> 196 192 I could be wrong, but isn't the injunction to prevent the govt from ordering social media companies to censor? If so, the removal of injunction means Biden admin can theoretically fire out 1000s of emails directing social media to remove content while the lower courts are still working through the case.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (nIBG7)

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The idea that they stopped always seemed silly to me, to be honest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

Yes. You could extend this to just about *anything* we've heard of, too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 01:43 PM (llON8)

199 I was walking outside with a cutting board full of stuff for the grill, and i bumped the edge of it against the door frame, which drove the opposite corner of it deep and hard into my navel, which made me collapse and double over and start hoping my guts would be kind enough to remain internal.... that brought a tear to my eye, i don't mind saying.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2024 01:43 PM (BpZ5k)

200 How come they get hostages?
J6 guys lives serve the state.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 26, 2024 01:43 PM (J8LnB)

201 There is much boofery on the court.

Posted by: Justice Kavanaugh at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (woPEM)

202 Uh, all laws are there to control future behavior, by punishing past behavior.

How can the Supremes then say, well, we're not going to stop this murder from happening, because no one is dead yet....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2024 01:38 PM (xaFKb)

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Can you find an example of an instance where injunction was denied and the case just stopped? I'm curious if it's actually happened because it seems like it would be really weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (GBKbO)
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It does happen, if the basis for denying the injunction is that the case itself is defective (such as no jurisdiction or standing) or legally meritless. It might take two steps: One, the defendant fights the injunction on the grounds that the case is legally defective. If the court agrees, the next step is Two, the defendant then moves to dismiss the entire case on those grounds. And usually wins.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

203 French and the Romance languages preserved that mostly, expect for Sunday and Saturday.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 26, 2024 01:21 PM (w6EFb)

Except for Portuguese, which is literally Oneday, Twoday, Threeday, Fourday, Fiveday, Sixday, Sabado, DOMINGO!

(segunda-feira, terça-feira, etc)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)

204 I used to get angry at the death of my country but I guess all things pass.

Posted by: ... at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (HWur+)

205 I cried when that decrepit old whore Rose threw the priceless diamond into the sea.

Posted by: spindrift at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (OguvZ)

206 assassins get 3-named too
Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (/7KEl)

No kiddin'.

Posted by: John Wilkes Booth at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (K861k)

207 204 All we can do now is to try to find the humor in it.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 01:45 PM (98J/K)

208 202 It does happen, if the basis for denying the injunction is that the case itself is defective (such as no jurisdiction or standing) or legally meritless. It might take two steps: One, the defendant fights the injunction on the grounds that the case is legally defective. If the court agrees, the next step is Two, the defendant then moves to dismiss the entire case on those grounds. And usually wins.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

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Dammit, Elric.

I try to be not hair on fire guy regarding legal rulings, but you're edging me closer on this.

We'll see, but I have a lingering hope. Dwindling, perhaps.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

209 Premature leak/posting of ruling was regarding allowing emergency abortions in Idaho.

Last I knew Idaho's abortion laws were perfectly reasonable about such things.

And the law about abortion in the case of rape was even more reasonable, as it requires the woman seeking an abortion to have filed a police complaint about the crime committed against her.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 01:45 PM (hB7mE)

210 When I first saw the Grand Canyon, I put in my earbuds and dialed up "Mars, Bringer Of War" on the iPod, and I definitely had A Moment

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:47 PM (/7KEl)

211 Also OT, we have a blob of rain and lightning moving south towards where I am, and it's moving pretty *fast*.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 01:47 PM (llON8)

212 I was walking outside with a cutting board full of stuff for the grill, and i bumped the edge of it against the door frame, which drove the opposite corner of it deep and hard into my navel, which made me collapse and double over and start hoping my guts would be kind enough to remain internal.... that brought a tear to my eye, i don't mind saying.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2024 01:43 PM (BpZ5k)

I once bumped into the door frame as I was coming in with a full rack of ribs. Fell to the ground.

No, it wasn't raining that day. Those were salty freakin' tears coming out of my face.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:47 PM (dGCAG)

213 "Neither US citizens nor the US Constitution have standing. Next!'

Interesting to watch some "conservative" influencers on X opining that this is all okey-dokey and "Trust the plan."

Posted by: DaisyB at June 26, 2024 01:47 PM (AbL8c)

214 Delaware Senate Passes Bill to Legalize Assisted Suicide by One Vote

Thank God

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 01:47 PM (RHGPo)

215 Our country isn't dying. Their country is dying. The fake bullshit skinsuit country they've wrapped around America.

America is still underneath, churning away, making crap, doing jobs, having babies, paying bills...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2024 01:47 PM (BpZ5k)

216 At a minimum, I expect the defendants to now bring a motion to dismiss the case on the basis of standing. If they win that -- and the SC's decision if nothing else will help with that -- then the entire case is definitely gone.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

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That I could buy, but it requires more steps from the case continuing on.

Not just stopping cold.

However, I find it hard to see the 5th going along with it, especially with vague language in the rejection of the injunction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)
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We are basically talking about the same thing. It's only a matter of how many procedural steps are left before the case is (potentially) stopped cold. If the lower courts read the SC opinion as deciding the issue of standing on the merits -- and they well could -- then the case is over, it's just a matter of time.

Indeed, the defendants could conceivably bring a motion to dismiss the case on standing grounds in the next few weeks.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

217
Zulu as Kono

Posted by: Jack Hair Lord at June 26, 2024 01:49 PM (w6EFb)

218 Standing, if you can achieve it.

Posted by: Zombie Ben Franklin at June 26, 2024 01:49 PM (KYUHu)

219 197 Wo Tan as Kam Fong.
Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 01:43 PM (98J/K)

But when it came time to book 'em James McArthur as Danno Williams did the job 'cause White Privilege.

Posted by: Auspex at June 26, 2024 01:49 PM (j4U/Z)

220 The idea that they stopped always seemed silly to me, to be honest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO
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That's why I said "theoretically" start back up, I don't doubt that they ever stopped censoring.

It looks to me the ruling's effect is to say Govt efforts to censor results in no harm to anyone. It's all A-OK!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:50 PM (nIBG7)

221 Looking for non indo European words I found this interesting table: https://shorturl.at/sGHfn. And within the table is the Proto Germanic word for womb which is, wambo.
Some things never really change.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2024 01:50 PM (ZDsBk)

222 FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 01:45

If the SC court doesn't clamp down on these leaks about abortion then they can stay behind their tax payer funded fences till the cows come home.

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 01:50 PM (F3Dlr)

223 218 lol

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 01:50 PM (98J/K)

224 Standing, if you can achieve it.
Posted by: Zombie Ben Franklin
____

Are we talking about the debate now?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (Dm8we)

225 WaPo Poll: Donald Trump Stronger than Joe Biden on Protecting Democracy

Today's SCOTUS ruling on the injunction of Murthy v Missouri should help Trump

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (RHGPo)

226 I've had some of the toughest men on the planet in my office. The vast majority of them end up crying at some point.

Crying is a sign of vulnerability, which literally means "capable of being wounded".

It's not that men shouldn't cry, it's that they need to be careful about where, when, and around whom they cry, lest someone decide to shiv them deeper where they've already been hurt.

"Men don't cry" is purely a matter of not letting your enemies know they've wounded you.

The same is true of women, of course, but women have figured out how to turn crying into a social tac-nuke.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (hB7mE)

227 seen at yahoo news from nbc:

The Covid summer wave is here

[more pagan mythology. covid = cold]

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (CWTWj)

228 My take is that the SC wants to let the district court finish its trial before weighing in. They want to issue a ruling with finality. Hopefully in the right direction.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (DkqYg)

229 215 Our country isn't dying. Their country is dying. The fake bullshit skinsuit country they've wrapped around America.

America is still underneath, churning away, making crap, doing jobs, having babies, paying bills...
---------------
My take is Yankee Land has collapsed and they are doing everything possible to maintain their pimp hand political position over the flyovers. With California bursting, methinks the end is near for Insane Trust Fund Babies.

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 26, 2024 01:52 PM (n17eQ)

230 Only reason to cry at the GC is too many rude Chi Nah tourists clogging up the roads and view spots.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:41 PM (dGCAG)

No point in crying. It's not like there's any chance of filling it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2024 01:52 PM (ZE4/d)

231 assassins get 3-named too
Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 01:40 PM (/7KEl)

No kiddin'.
Posted by: John Wilkes Booth
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What is an ass-ass-in?

Posted by: John Wesley Hardin at June 26, 2024 01:52 PM (XeU6L)

232
I think in some languages, Saturn's Day got changed to simply "wash day".

Saturday night bath, it's a thing.

Posted by: Jack Hair Lord at June 26, 2024 01:53 PM (w6EFb)

233 216 We are basically talking about the same thing. It's only a matter of how many procedural steps are left before the case is (potentially) stopped cold. If the lower courts read the SC opinion as deciding the issue of standing on the merits -- and they well could -- then the case is over, it's just a matter of time.

Indeed, the defendants could conceivably bring a motion to dismiss the case on standing grounds in the next few weeks.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

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However, it does require the 5th, which was confident enough in the plaintiff's case to grant the injunction to begin with, deciding that the standing argument has enough merit to dismiss everything.

I just have trouble seeing that happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

234
What is an ass-ass-in?
Posted by: John Wesley Hardin at June 26, 2024 01:52 PM (XeU6L)

I can help with that.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at June 26, 2024 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

235 Delaware Senate Passes Bill to Legalize Assisted Suicide by One Vote
Posted by: Dementia Joe

Assisted suicide is ALREADY legal in 10 jurisdictions in the US: Washington, D.C. and the states of California, Colorado, Oregon, Vermont, New Mexico, Maine, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Washington.

That's why I always shrug my shoulders when someone posts about Canada's MAID, it's already here and spreading and it's totally ignored.

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 01:54 PM (F3Dlr)

236 "No standing." What could be more insulting to the citizenry seeking redress from grievances from their government than this statement? It's akin to how the British crown treated the colonialists.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 26, 2024 01:54 PM (b+7kE)

237 Amy Coney Souter strikes again.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat Wears the Emperor's New Clothes at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (bWR5k)

238 Aaron Kheiraty is one of the plaintifs in Murthy v Missouri, and posts on it regularly

https://aaronkheriaty.substack.com/

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (D7oie)

239 It was obvious from the outset that Amy and her husband are too compassionate, given their adoption of multiple minority children. Here on Earth, not in Heaven, this is always an indicator of similar softness aka liberalism.

Kavanaugh? We got played. Mark Judge can go away now.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (s6PBU)

240 One name is a pop star
Two names is a nobody
Three names is an assassin
Four names is a fantasy author
Five our more names is the dude trimming the hedges behind a cape cod in Martha's Vinyard.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (BpZ5k)

241 In exchange for Assange's freedom, Wiki-leaks has to purge all emails obtained from the DNC server leak. Protecting Democracy!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (nIBG7)

242
Dammit, Elric.

I try to be not hair on fire guy regarding legal rulings, but you're edging me closer on this.

We'll see, but I have a lingering hope. Dwindling, perhaps.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)
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I do try to tell it like it is. Sadly, we have a SC with only 3 reliable conservatives. The rest are either hard leftists or leftist-curious.

Part of the reason I'm pessimistic about the case as a whole is that this was obviously and clearly government coercion of private entities to suppress free speech. If the SC couldn't get this slam-bang case right, what hope do we have?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:56 PM (iFTx/)

243 >>>deep and hard into my navel, which made me collapse and double over and start hoping my guts would be kind enough to remain ...

You should get operated on.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2024 01:56 PM (zHK5Q)

244 "Men don't cry" is purely a matter of not letting your enemies know they've wounded you.

The same is true of women, of course, but women have figured out how to turn crying into a social tac-nuke.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (hB7mE)

That's true, and if it need be said, be careful if you are a man, crying in front of your woman. She might... might use it against you.

Not if you have a good woman, but... well, some of us have had the experience of not.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 01:57 PM (dGCAG)

245 However, it does require the 5th, which was confident enough in the plaintiff's case to grant the injunction to begin with, deciding that the standing argument has enough merit to dismiss everything.

I just have trouble seeing that happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
________

I think the case gets sent all the way back to the trial court now. Which also granted the injunction, so maybe you are right that the judge will be reluctant to stop the case now. Maybe. We will see.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 26, 2024 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

246 Trump fell into the same crap of relying on the worthless fed society that hopefully stops now because we've seen enough of this fucking shit

May Cunty Barrett and Boofsie Kav both get ass cancer

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (DBZuM)

247 I can't wait for Trump to appoint more fully vetted originalists to the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (aFNOf)

248 242 Why would the govt give up the 'right' to censor us, now that they've won it? Why would a judge (a govt functionary) throw away that power? Good intentions? Fealty to The Law? Integrity?

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (98J/K)

249 Again I think it is unwarranted by the court and cowardly but this is also the cost of appointing those with judicial restraint as their primary influence on their Court opinions. Judicial restraint becomes a ratchet where the left wins and consolidates its opinion"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

The Left can be as activist as they want, yet because of the 'conserve' root of conservative in ours they box us into exercising the 'judicial restraint' that is part of our DNA.

It's the legal version of bipartisanship. The Left gets to be 'partisan' while the Right has to be 'bi'.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (ZGEjw)

250 "Here on Earth, not in Heaven, this is always an indicator of similar softness aka liberalism."

Mommy syndrome. Adopting umpteen foreign babies says volumes. She's already made a vague statement about the Court's function is not to roil the societal waters. We don't need to be mommied, you insufferable squish, we need clear-eyed rulings.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (b+7kE)

251 Nobody should ever appoint another so-called “constitutional conservative” woman to the court. None exist, it’s like Sasquatch or space aliens.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 02:00 PM (eGA1f)

252 Hollywood star and The Sopranos alum Drea de Matteo says Hollywood is full of “quiet” Trump supporters and questioned how much actors are getting paid to publicly support President Joe Biden ahead of the November election.

de Matteo told Fox News’ Jesse Watters on Monday that she thinks “a lot of quiet Trump supporters” in Hollywood.

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 02:00 PM (RHGPo)

253 In exchange for Assange's freedom, Wiki-leaks has to purge all emails obtained from the DNC server leak. Protecting Democracy!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (nIBG7)

Seems as if someone gave an Order 66 out on the free exchange of information, eh?

X is next. Guaranteed.

Posted by: DaisyB at June 26, 2024 02:00 PM (AbL8c)

254 The Coney-Barret hyphen should have been an early clue to her politics.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 26, 2024 02:00 PM (aFNOf)

255 We don't need to be mommied, you insufferable squish, we need clear-eyed rulings.

****************

Clear eyed rulings cannot be done by women and weak men.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at June 26, 2024 02:00 PM (DBZuM)

256 So Sheldon Whorehouse and his usual gang of asshats threaten Roberts, Thomas and Alito with "ethics" investigations", the WaPo and NYTs join in the chorus.
And suddenly Johnny boy responds with "Yes boss, I got my mind right. Don't beat me no more boss." Anybody want to bet that after Biden coasts to his historic 100,000,000 'vote' reelection, that Thomas and Alito get the Scalia sudden death syndrome?

Posted by: Stacy0311 at June 26, 2024 02:01 PM (G1ktt)

257 My take is that the SC wants to let the district court finish its trial before weighing in. They want to issue a ruling with finality. Hopefully in the right direction.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 26, 2024 01:51 PM (DkqYg)

I hope you're correct but, personally, I would have ruled:

- Given that it is unconstitutional for the government to restrict political speech,
- Given that all speech which touches upon aspect of the government are inherently political,
- Given that the government may not request/require private entities to do that which the government cannot do,
- Given that there is no conceivable circumstance which would permit the government to bypass these restrictions,
- We hold that the injunction is valid, we hold that plaintiffs case is final and we find for plaintiff, we hereby order all members of the current administration to be beaten with a rattan rod until it hurts me,
- Deus Vult.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:01 PM (IUd0M)

258 A very large Fuck You to the Federalist Society, you fucking simps.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 02:01 PM (eGA1f)

259 So, it's not big news that ANOTHER abortion ruling from the SC was inadvertently leaked on their website and then removed, before it was made public?

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 02:01 PM (F3Dlr)

260 259 So, it's not big news that ANOTHER abortion ruling from the SC was inadvertently leaked on their website and then removed, before it was made public?

I'm sick of abortion nonsense - didn't we federalize the baby killing already?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 02:02 PM (s3qiR)

261 A lawsuit has been filed against Disney alleging the company subjected the Village People to a hostile work environment and banned the iconic 70s group.

.. this sort of puts Mickey on his head

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 02:02 PM (RHGPo)

262 258 A very large Fuck You to the Federalist Society, you fucking simps.
Posted by: Truthbomb

Supreme court justice Kavanaugh will have a good cry over you heartless comment.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 26, 2024 02:03 PM (aFNOf)

263 that Thomas and Alito get the Scalia sudden death syndrome?

**************

I dont know why Scalia's death having all the hallmarks of having been smothered by a pillow would suggest his passing was anything other than natural

Also Epstein def killed hisself

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at June 26, 2024 02:03 PM (DBZuM)

264 we hereby order all members of the current administration to be beaten with a rattan rod until it hurts me,
- Deus Vult.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Do you perchance have a newsletter one might subscribe to?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2024 02:03 PM (WnooC)

265 BREAKING: Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican congressman from Illinois, endorsed President Joe Biden for reelection on Wednesday, alleging his unwavering support for democracy as a “proud conservative.”

.. we knew this douche bag would

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (RHGPo)

266 ACB also just completely destroyed the 2A test set forth in Bruen and the only dissent was Thomas. I believe the phrase she used was that the court wasn’t suggesting a law trapped in amber to be analogous in order for it to stand. They’re now back to the corrupt “spirit” of past laws and regulations.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (eGA1f)

267
Hmm. Three-namers.
Keisha Lance Bottoms comes to mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (XeU6L)

268 BREAKING: Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican congressman from Illinois, endorsed President Joe Biden for reelection on Wednesday, alleging his unwavering support for democracy as a “proud conservative.”

There's literally nothing 'proudly conservative' about voting for Joe Biden.

Can't he get hit by a bus already?

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

269 The Court has the same problem that the other branches of government have when controlled by Republicans: potemkin conservatism, an elevation of process over results. This federalist society approach to the law basically allows progressives to use the Court as a one-way ratchet; with occasional pauses, the law inexorably moves leftward. Because one side purports to care about precedent and doctrine, and the other is openly concerned only with the results. Same phenomenon we see on the congressional side of things. The only real question is whether this potemkin conservatism is sincere or disingenuous.

Posted by: Rehnquist Understood the Point of Controlling the Court Is to Move the Law at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (ohEAP)

270 Damn.

Strike one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)

271 ACB also just completely destroyed the 2A test set forth in Bruen and the only dissent was Thomas

good point

if anything that ruling was even worse than this one

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (s3qiR)

272 I'm sick of abortion nonsense - didn't we federalize the baby killing already?

Does tossing the matter to the states count as federalizing it or un-federalizing it?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (hB7mE)

273 >>> 264 we hereby order all members of the current administration to be beaten with a rattan rod until it hurts me,
- Deus Vult.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Do you perchance have a newsletter one might subscribe to?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2024 02:03 PM (WnooC)

I sure hope so.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (llON8)

274 I'm sick of abortion nonsense - didn't we federalize the baby killing already?
Posted by: BlackOrchid

So am I. It's a state's issue now where it belongs.

My point is another leak of a ruling prior to being released. It's becoming old hat for some innocent clerk to post on the SC website and then delete it.

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (F3Dlr)

275 269 Well stated.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 02:06 PM (98J/K)

276 Does tossing the matter to the states count as federalizing it or un-federalizing it?
haha good question (I guess)

it should be clear but maybe not!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 02:06 PM (s3qiR)

277

The Wednesday Dance

https://youtu.be/F3jnymeJof4

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2024 02:06 PM (63Dwl)

278 ugh, states' right

Posted by: old chick at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM (F3Dlr)

279 LOVE the Kenny Loggins sidebar. 'This is It' is one of my favorite songs by him (out of so many). It was also my senior prom theme song. Great clip.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM (mupln)

280 Abortion giant Planned Parenthood announced it will kickback $40 million to prop up 81-year-old President Joe Biden and Democrats in key congressional races ahead of November, The Hill reported.

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM (RHGPo)

281 Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Do you perchance have a newsletter one might subscribe to?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2024 02:03 PM (WnooC)

I sure hope so.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (llON

I hold forth every October in Corsicana.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM (IUd0M)

282 >>> 268 BREAKING: Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican congressman from Illinois, endorsed President Joe Biden for reelection on Wednesday, alleging his unwavering support for democracy as a "proud conservative."
==
There's literally nothing 'proudly conservative' about voting for Joe Biden.

Can't he get hit by a bus already?
Posted by: [somebody left his sock on ;P ] at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

I see that Kinzinger never was able to pass fourth grade.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM (llON8)

283 ACB lacked one minute of trial experience. Total academic. She now sits on the highest court in the land.

I hope no one still has any illusion that the Supreme Court is going to help save this country or that it even recognizes the trouble we're in. With the exception of Thomas and Alito on good days, a bunch of cloistered, effete, equivocal, cowardly eggheads.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM (b+7kE)

284 Any y’all ever heard of a thing called Second Amendment? Maybe y’all need to get a copy, keep it for sentimental purposes.

Posted by: Eromero at June 26, 2024 02:08 PM (o2ZRX)

285 Talking of judges .....
This lady judge reminds me of Rick Moranis. Am I wrong?

https://youtu.be/oUn4gX7E-w0

Also I don't know if I trust the judgement of a Judge who has SHE/HER pronouns. Does she even know what a woman is?

Posted by: Ciampino - looks like a guy at June 26, 2024 02:08 PM (qfLjt)

286 Posted by: [somebody left his sock on ;P ] at June 26, 2024 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

I see that Kinzinger never was able to pass fourth grade.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2024 02:07 PM

LOL. Well played.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

287 tablet running low on electrons
catch you la

Posted by: Don Black at June 26, 2024 02:08 PM (/7KEl)

288 Women having three names is different from serial killers having three names.

Serial killer get all their names listed so that nobody confuses them with innocent people of same first and last names.

Women get all their names listed so that everyone knows that they are not merely their husbands' wives, they are also their fathers' daughters.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:08 PM (hB7mE)

289 Does tossing the matter to the states count as federalizing it or un-federalizing it?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:05 PM (hB7mE)

I believe -

- in the states -- federalized
- in DC -- centralized

Having said that, I pulled that out of my ass and most Americans are ignorant as shit if they aren't positively stupid so...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:09 PM (IUd0M)

290 “ good point

if anything that ruling was even worse than this one”

It gets worse. With ACB and Roberts ridiculous “affray” analogy in play now, they will probably remand cases like the Illinois bans back to the lower courts so they can use that manufacture. At least I have $20 that says they refuse to take them up on that basis. They’re cowards.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 02:09 PM (eGA1f)

291 ACB lacked one minute of trial experience. Total academic. She now sits on the highest court in the land.

I hope no one still has any illusion that the Supreme Court is going to help save this country or that it even recognizes the trouble we're in. With the exception of Thomas and Alito on good days, a bunch of cloistered, effete, equivocal, cowardly eggheads.
Posted by: Ordinary American

Same with Kagan. Total academic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 26, 2024 02:09 PM (qZEuM)

292 The only thing you'll get out of Catholics on the conservative front is the occasional pro-life ruling.

Other than that, they are the same Papists they've always been.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:10 PM (1tRWF)

293 SCOTUS ruling Snyder v United States says that 18 USC 666 prohibits bribes of local and state officials but doesn't prohibit gratuities.

This means you can't pay ahead to get a favor, but you can pay after the favor has been granted.

Makes sense for those trying to payola their way ahead.

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 02:11 PM (RHGPo)

294 292 The only thing you'll get out of Catholics on the conservative front is the occasional pro-life ruling.

Other than that, they are the same Papists they've always been.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:10 PM (1tRWF)

========

*waves*

Nice to see that anti-Catholic bigotry is still alive and well!

Alito and Thomas are both Catholic, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

295 - in the states -- federalized
- in DC -- centralized

Posted by: I used to have a different nic

With a moment of thought, I believe that you and BlackOrchid are correct by the proper definition and use of the word.

Current usage OTOH.... Linguistic drift is a bitch.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:12 PM (hB7mE)

296 "I see that Kinzinger never was able to pass fourth grade."

A sizable majority of voters, despite having graduated from grade school, do not know that the USA is a republic. So the deceptive rhetoric works, and they'll keep using it, no matter how many times it is rebutted.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 02:12 PM (98J/K)

297 Has AOC expressed sadness that she wasn't able to hump Jamaal Bowman to victory?

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 26, 2024 02:12 PM (oY2z2)

298 They were HUNTING Kavenaugh. Maybe he forgot.

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2024 02:12 PM (rTrlu)

299 The only thing you'll get out of Catholics on the conservative front is the occasional pro-life ruling.

Other than that, they are the same Papists they've always been.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:10 PM (1tRWF)

Thomas is a big time Catholic.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:13 PM (SHMXB)

300 At least for today, the old hag Pelosi has moved SCOTUS out of the "rogue" category.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 26, 2024 02:13 PM (mupln)

301 Abortion giant Planned Parenthood announced it will kickback $40 million to prop up 81-year-old President Joe Biden and Democrats in key congressional races ahead of November, The Hill reported.

I'm shocked - shocked! - that they aren't using that money to provide low cost abortions to poor minority women.

It's good to see that they have so much spare money that they won't be at all inconvenienced by having their federal funding withdrawn.

/sarcnotsarc

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:14 PM (hB7mE)

302 The only thing you'll get out of Catholics on the conservative front is the occasional pro-life ruling.

Other than that, they are the same Papists they've always been.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:10 PM (1tRWF)

Even lawyers in private practice are government adjacent. It's a hard thing, in the 21st century, to find someone who will go against the system they worked with/for during their entire adult life in the name of the principle they, supposedly, believe in. And most of these people are "social". They care what others think of them. They're shit. The question is, does better exist?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:14 PM (IUd0M)

303 Thomas is a big time Catholic.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:13 PM (SHMXB)

As are Pelosi and Biden.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (1tRWF)

304 "Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican congressman from Illinois, endorsed President Joe Biden for reelection on Wednesday".

Aw. jeez, we're one Liz Cheney endorsement of Joey away from losing this thing.

Posted by: Auspex at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (j4U/Z)

305 Other than that, they are the same Papists they've always been.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:10 PM (1tRWF)

Two point deduction for not using an appropriately pejorative adjective before "Papists."

Will we never be free of this vile potpourri?!?

Posted by: Something Stinks at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (ohEAP)

306

As are Pelosi and Biden.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (1tRWF)

CINO.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

307 I can’t wait until ACB approves of the gun and magazine bans “for the children”. It’s been awhile since we’ve heard that phrase and the reasoning it’s totes ok to trample the Second Amendment for feely, touchy emanations from your ass.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (eGA1f)

308 293 SCOTUS ruling Snyder v United States says that 18 USC 666 prohibits bribes of local and state officials but doesn't prohibit gratuities.

This means you can't pay ahead to get a favor, but you can pay after the favor has been granted.

Makes sense for those trying to payola their way ahead.
Posted by: Dementia

****
So Bloomberg's $19 million gift was illegal! I knew it! Now I'm holding my breath until he's arrested for bribery.

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2024 02:16 PM (rTrlu)

309 303 Thomas is a big time Catholic.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:13 PM (SHMXB)

As are Pelosi and Biden.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (1tRWF)

========

So, is it the Catholicism that determines if they're pro or anti-government power, then?

Or are you just a bigot?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

310 They're shit. The question is, does better exist?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:14 PM (IUd0M)

To be clear, this comment was not directed at any particular justice or set of justices. It's more an indictment of modern society.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:17 PM (IUd0M)

311 Snorri Sturluson, in his Prose Edda, says that the Aesir - that, is, "Men of Asia" - were refugees from Troy who convinced the local chiefs that they were gods.
Posted by: FeatherBlade

I've often wondered if old Snorri followed the same path as the Brothers Grimm did much later - a bit of editing and revision as well as imposing of order on what was otherwise a disparate and often conflicting elements of oral folk traditions.

That being said, though, there is an interesting parallel with the Trojan refugees to be found in Celtic myth's frequent mention of Egypt in their own faith tradition.

Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 26, 2024 02:17 PM (ENHQb)

312 I know aos is the homeland of pessimists and naysayers but the SC has also issued a lot of good rulings in the past 6 years. I have to remind myself that frequently as well as remind myself of our been there done that history to keep me off the ledge. It’s just a constant fight and has been since our founding.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (SHMXB)

313 Deny women the 19th Amendment and then ask for proof of standing.

Maybe then Barrett will understand that the denial of the Right is the damage itself.

Posted by: Malicious Compliance at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (OBuuS)

314 It's good to see that they have so much spare money that they won't be at all inconvenienced by having their federal funding withdrawn.

--

It's funny how taxpayers pay to fund Democrats. Quite a set up they've got going there.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (mupln)

315 Let's face facts. All 3 of Trump's appointees are in the Roberts bloc. So the court is (left to right) split 3-4-2.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (1bNHn)

316 Prepare for ACW II

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

317 Mommy syndrome. Adopting umpteen foreign babies says volumes. She's already made a vague statement about the Court's function is not to roil the societal waters. We don't need to be mommied, you insufferable squish, we need clear-eyed rulings.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (b+7kE)

I think you give the better description, OA. Amy will Mommy us into a better way of thinking.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (s6PBU)

318 Holy shit is Kathy Hochul stupid. It’s like listening to a donkey try to explain algebra. Forget it, sweety. We can’t all have well functioning brains. Maybe try digging fence posts or macrame.

Posted by: Truthbomb at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (eGA1f)

319 Under the "logic" of Trump attempting to "overturn" the election; any challenge or protest, even in the face of the rampant voter fraud, would be illegal. This can not stand.
If it were illegal for Trump to contest the results, why hasn't Hillary been prosecuted?
Serious question, rhetorical in nature.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (JNTt1)

320 228 My take is that the SC wants to let the district court finish its trial before weighing in. They want to issue a ruling with finality. Hopefully in the right direction.

.. they love to have all of those briefs to cover the various "corner-cases" that their relatively small staffs might miss.

Posted by: Dementia Joe at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (RHGPo)

321 I don't get it either with these two justices. The Trump appointees on the Ninth Circuit are tearing it up--or maybe they just look conservative bc the rest of them are avowed commies?

Posted by: PJU at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (G1dq6)

322
Amy Coney Barrett is a problem.

-------

Curse her cones.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (FPgfB)

323 Oh, and might as well bury your copy of the Constitution,

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (fwDg9)

324 Illegals Are Dying Of Dehydration In The Heatwave caused by Trump's Global Warming Oil Gushing Policies. We must go back to the Stone Age to protect Democracy and save the Planet.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 26, 2024 02:19 PM (hbjSA)

325 In exchange for Assange's freedom, Wiki-leaks has to purge all emails obtained from the DNC server leak. Protecting Democracy!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 26, 2024 01:55 PM (nIBG7)

Shouldn't be a surprise. You knew they had to get something. At this point I'd assume he's a broken man, and poses no further threat to the oligarchy, but purging his files means nobody else can use it, and it's a warning to next guy:

We win. We always win.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 02:20 PM (dGCAG)

326 310-I knew exactly what you meant...maybe.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at June 26, 2024 02:20 PM (Z8Yh2)

327 As are Pelosi and Biden.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (1tRWF)

Damn dude you just pwn’d yourself. Are Pelosi and Biden are the furthest thing from Papists as you can get.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:20 PM (SHMXB)

328 "To be clear, this comment was not directed at any particular justice or set of justices. It's more an indictment of modern society."

Exactly. The entire nation has turned corrupt and wicked, top to bottom. Everybody is just trying to get over. There is not even one innocent left in Sodom.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at June 26, 2024 02:20 PM (98J/K)

329 Posted by: Malcolm Tent

Please post your religion so we may point out the rod in your eye.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (UC3nL)

330 standard for a preliminary injunction is that the plaintiffs must show that they are likely to prevail and that they suffer irreparable harm from the actions of the defendant.
Posted by: whig at June 26, 2024 11:53 AM (pT08h)"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 01:13 PM
****
Ohhh don't forget the balancing of the equities stuff or the likelihood of harm to the parties.
Yikes. Forget it James. It's D.C..

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (rTrlu)

331 So, is it the Catholicism that determines if they're pro or anti-government power, then?

Eh.

Thomas is more like one of those African bishops.

He is ardently hard-line because one of the American Jesuits tried to call him a pervert and he has never forgiven it.

But yes, in general papists prefer the law to be interpreted by the elite, not the laity. That carried over to their government roles as well.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (1tRWF)

332 Mommy syndrome. Adopting umpteen foreign babies says volumes. She's already made a vague statement about the Court's function is not to roil the societal waters. We don't need to be mommied, you insufferable squish, we need clear-eyed rulings.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 26, 2024 01:58 PM (b+7kE)

I would argue that she's not wrong in that statement. She's wrong in it's application. The oil which will calm the troubled waters of American society is the Constitution. And for it to work, it must be unchanging. To adjust the law to what the mob is screeching for TODAY is precisely the opposite of "not roiling waters".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (IUd0M)

333 Do you know why Jews and Catholics are represented on the SC out of all proportion to their demographics?

It's because their religious upbringing - the way they are taught their religions - is far more precise and lawyerly than the religious upbringing given to your average mushy-headed evangelical (said as someone who was raised as a mushy-headed evangelical).

You want more evangelicals on the Supreme Court, start catechizing them better.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (hB7mE)

334 Even the Scriptures talk about the Most High appointing His princes (spiritual beings) according to the People.

Lets say that prior to the flood when there was a lot of Demonic activity (origins of the Titans stories) at Babel, the spiritual princes were all together to unite against the Most High until the languages were confounded and the spiritual beings followed the break-up of people as they spread across the Earth.

Brings a whole meaning to "Our" in the statement "Diversity is Our Strength" when you consider that what is happening to the former United States is a Bringing The Band Back Together function with wide open borders and people from around the world who are bringing in their "appointed spiritual princes".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 26, 2024 02:22 PM (rHxhM)

335 327 As are Pelosi and Biden.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:15 PM (1tRWF)

Damn dude you just pwn’d yourself. Are Pelosi and Biden are the furthest thing from Papists as you can get.
Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:20 PM (SHMXB)

=======

There's this idea that Catholics are rabidly Democrat partisan as a group, and it seems to be mostly fed by conservatives in Dem strongholds with lots of Catholics in it. You know, high concentrations of Democrats pretty much everywhere in sight locally.

As a whole, though, Catholics are kind of evenly split between the two parties in America.

It also seems to be some kind of archaic leftover of Southern opinion of Catholics that animated a lot of people for decades. It's not as potent as some other bigotries, but the tendrils are still present.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

336 Volokh Conspiracy is calling it a Blue June. We are truly and well f*cked.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 26, 2024 02:22 PM (aFNOf)

337 This means you can't pay ahead to get a favor, but you can pay after the favor has been granted.

Works for Bill & Hil, O & Joe, the Cheneys, Mad Max, Nan & clan...

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 26, 2024 02:22 PM (nYJpT)

338 Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (hB7mE)

FU too.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (SHMXB)

339 There is not even one innocent left in Sodom.

Me.

Posted by: SWIDT at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (og5mY)

340 331 Thomas is more like one of those African bishops.

He is ardently hard-line because one of the American Jesuits tried to call him a pervert and he has never forgiven it.

But yes, in general papists prefer the law to be interpreted by the elite, not the laity. That carried over to their government roles as well.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (1tRWF)

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"All Catholics are scum except the few exceptions. My best friend is Catholic."

As a Catholic, I can tell you that your worldview of Catholic thought is incorrect.

If it makes you feel better to reduce people to groups and then blame those groups for all that's wrong in the world, you do you. Just like activists blaming white people, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

341 NOOD Tranny!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (UC3nL)

342 There's this idea that Catholics are rabidly Democrat partisan as a group

wellllll.....

Posted by: irish Catholics at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (s3qiR)

343 Let's face facts. All 3 of Trump's appointees are in the Roberts bloc. So the court is (left to right) split 3-4-2.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2024 02:18 PM (1bNHn)

And the two aren't getting any younger.

It was amazing seeing them go after Alito's wife. How the hell can you call yourself a liberal democratic republic, when you attack justices and their families at these most basic level?

All while the other side forces the leading candidate to be the next president from uttering a discouraging word about a lowly corrupt judge and his family.

And yet that 3-4-2 is going to be called upon to keep the candidate for president out of prison. You know they're going to sentence him to prison. No way they can't at this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (dGCAG)

344 337 This means you can't pay ahead to get a favor, but you can pay after the favor has been granted.

Works for Bill & Hil, O & Joe, the Cheneys, Mad Max, Nan & clan...
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 26, 2024 02:22 PM (nYJpT)
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Old and Busted: Pay for Play

New Hottness: Play then Pay.

Posted by: WisRich at June 26, 2024 02:25 PM (G0vdT)

345 342 There's this idea that Catholics are rabidly Democrat partisan as a group

wellllll.....
Posted by: irish Catholics at June 26, 2024 02:24 PM (s3qiR)

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In Boston.

Bostonians are Democrat Partisans? Knock me over with a feather.

Leave the northeast, and it's very different.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

346 236 "No standing." What could be more insulting to the citizenry seeking redress from grievances from their government than this statement? It's akin to how the British crown treated the colonialists.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 26, 2024 01:54 PM (b+7kE)

“I agree!”

~ Dred Scott

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 26, 2024 02:26 PM (9mfKN)

347 The great orator Monica Lewinsky has spoken that she thinks Judge Aileen Cannon should be impeached because she hasn't thrown Trump in a Gulag yet. I may made the gulag part up but the rest is true. Actually, I don't blame Lewinsky for not knowing the law surrounding Presidential privilege re: documents after his term has ended as she was too busy acting as Clinton's entertainment director. She has no clue at how dumb and irrelevant she is. As DJT would say, sad.

Posted by: Cheri at June 26, 2024 02:26 PM (oiNtH)

348 Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:21 PM (hB7mE)

FU too.
Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024

Except for Polynikes. He apparently can't think well enough to recognize a compliment and a defense from the outside.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:26 PM (hB7mE)

349 Leave the northeast, and it's very different.

sure sure sure I'm just saying the NE peeps do have outsize influence, at least for now.

And anyway around me the Irish - Catholic and otherwise - are super duper Blue. The Irish Catholics think their religious belief is the same as the Democratic Party, and they are super serious about it. Hopefully changing I dunno.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 02:27 PM (s3qiR)

350 349 And anyway around me the Irish - Catholic and otherwise - are super duper Blue. The Irish Catholics think their religious belief is the same as the Democratic Party, and they are super serious about it. Hopefully changing I dunno.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 26, 2024 02:27 PM (s3qiR)

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I've been raised Catholic and around Catholics my whole life.

Outside of blue enclaves.

It's more of a geography question than anything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 26, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

351 Just like activists blaming white people, I guess.

lol.

Papists criticizing the othering of people is just so rich in its irony.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at June 26, 2024 02:28 PM (1tRWF)

352
Except for Polynikes. He apparently can't think well enough to recognize a compliment and a defense from the outside.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 26, 2024 02:26 PM (hB7mE)

Yeah me dumb you smarht. Me not get you name calling as compliment .

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2024 02:30 PM (SHMXB)

353 Quinnipiac before Trump trial - Biden +1
Quinnipiac today - Trump +4

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 26, 2024 02:33 PM (xPl2J)

354 The Founders did many things well but lifetime appointment for judges was a YUGE mistake. This will have to be corrected in the Constitution 2.0 after the breakup with absolutely NO lifetime appointments to anything, anywhere, ever.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at June 26, 2024 02:33 PM (PWI4f)

355 Of course, this is a sexist comment but I think women are more prone to wanting the approval of other women. In this case looks like the women Amy is hanging with are all raving left wingers. I think she is trying to hard to show she has her own mind. She pretty much admitted that this or a simiar case will come back again because they didn't decide anything. Classic punt.

Posted by: JohnnyL at June 26, 2024 02:34 PM (EmbIt)

356 And when the rent-a-mobs riot in the streets over it, machine-gun them, in droves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2024 01:22 PM (ZE4/d)
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Website, newsletter?

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 26, 2024 02:37 PM (JNTt1)

357 When, not if I start shooting 2 things will make me stop, either I am dead or out of ammo. Nothing less will suffice.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 26, 2024 02:45 PM (hKoQL)

358 Since the 1A has been fully and effectively sh!tcanned now they might as well just go ahead and endorse locking up the opposition leader too.

There is no other possible end to the path we are on.

Apparently EVERYONE being injured and having their rights violated by a widespread censorship campaign results in NO ONE having standing.

Piss on these people.

Posted by: Thatch at June 26, 2024 02:48 PM (bbi0+)

359 it was a "No Standing" call ... not on merits

Posted by: The Dark Lord at June 26, 2024 02:55 PM (DBAaD)

360 She shouldn't be allowed to vote let alone sit on the SCOTUS.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 26, 2024 03:18 PM (50VAR)

361 SCOTUS isn't a 9 man Super Legislature. Quit acting like it is.

Posted by: hurricane567 at June 26, 2024 03:23 PM (WCWLA)

362 The Privaleged Liberal Democrat Pigs(Animal Farm)show their true side

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 26, 2024 04:57 PM (wGqjj)

363 She’s a ‘ho for big government.

Posted by: Turnin Tricks for Big Daddy at June 26, 2024 05:00 PM (1wdUl)

364 On the off chance that no one has said it yet, it's "Amy Phony Barrett" for all future reference.

Posted by: desertgardens at June 26, 2024 06:10 PM (KQ24u)

365 Way willowed as usual but I must post this about the Idaho opinion that was "inadvertantly" posted to the SCOTUS website. I don't think it's good news like Dobbs. The leaked opinion concerns two cases heard in April concern whether Idaho’s Defense of Life Act, which prohibits abortions unless necessary to save the life of the mother, is preempted by the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act. It holds that medical professionals will be allowed to continue providing abortions in emergency situations in Idaho, meaning the Defense of Life Act is no longer effective.

In addition, after the Murthy "no standing" decision today, the original injunction was by the district trial court, not the Fifth Circuit, so I believe the case goes back to the district court for further proceedings, pending a motion to dismiss by the defendants, which will likely be granted now that all of the plaintiffs have been determined to have no standing.

I am a retired lawyer so take this FWIW.

Posted by: jayhawkone@att.net at June 26, 2024 06:26 PM (9rPx3)

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