Estimate: Only 50 of Hamas' 116 Hostages Haven't Been Murdered Yet

The US estimates that Hamas has murdered all but 50 of the hostages they took on October 7th.

US officials believe that as few as 50 of the 116 hostages held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip are still alive, according to a new report.
The assessment, based in part on Israeli intelligence, indicated that 66 of the remaining hostages are now dead, mediators in the hostage talks and a US official told the Wall Street Journal.
Israel previously estimated that 41 remaining hostages were no longer alive, while Hamas has insisted that it does not know how many hostages are alive or dead.

A "peace activist" taken hostage by Hamas and then released says she's not in favor of "peace" any longer.

An Israeli peace activist who was kidnapped and held hostage for 53 days in Gaza said the horrifying experience shattered her longstanding belief that there could be peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
"I don't believe in peace, I don't, sorry. I changed my mind," Ada Sagi, who was captured by Hamas on Oct. 7, at the start of the Israel-Hamas war, told the BBC.
For decades, Sagi, 75, lived in the Nir Oz kibbutz near the Israel-Gaza border and taught Israelis Arabic so that they could speak to their neighbors.
Now, she's urging the Israeli government to agree to a ceasefire and release the other 116 hostages who remain captive by Hamas.

I know that seems to be a contradiction, but she wants the ceasefire just to get the other 116 hostages freed.

Of course, we now estimate that 66 of them have been murdered already.

"For many years, I believed in peace. It's the reason why I started to teach Arabic at school. Maybe it will bring peace between the Arab people in Israel and the Jewish people," she recalled thinking. "But from year to year, I understand Hamas don't want it."
Sagi, who turned 75 while in captivity, was among 105 hostages released in November in exchange for a week-long ceasefire and the release of some 240 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.

Ugh. And so the terrorists and kidnappers are right back in action.

I hope Israel killed a lot of them in action.

💥WH Spox John Kirby on Netanyahu's video attacking Biden: "It was embarrassing. It was vexing and disappointing as much as it was incorrect [especially] given the amount of support that we have and will continue to give." https://t.co/FYsgeZGoTy
— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) June 20, 2024

Jake Tapper, who attacks any right-leaning critics of the media as lying fabulists and fascists, has the audacity to (gently) criticize his fellow media propagandists as down-playing the fact that five Americans remain hostage in Gaza.

Rachel Goldberg-Polin: "Of the 120 remaining hostages, they are representatives of 24 different nations. They are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists." pic.twitter.com/pdLYOJvkyO
— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) June 20, 2024

But Jake! You're criticizing the media! That means you support disinformation and lies! And the fascist suppression of "journalists"!

Isn't that what you always claim whenever someone criticizes you for your blatant, toxic bias?

By the way, Fake Jake, you can take this up with CNN management and your fellow "journalists," you know.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:00 PM

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1 Come on, IDF, finish the job.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2024 04:01 PM (2UnvF)

2 Called em.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2024 04:01 PM (2UnvF)

3 So the rest of the living hostages are being used as sex slaves?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 21, 2024 04:02 PM (QNSds)

4 An Israeli peace activist who was kidnapped and held hostage for 53 days in Gaza said the horrifying experience shattered her longstanding belief that there could be peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
"I don't believe in peace, I don't, sorry. I changed my mind," Ada Sagi, who was captured by Hamas on Oct. 7, at the start of the Israel-Hamas war, told the BBC.

No Stockholm Syndrome in sight !

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 04:02 PM (SHMXB)

5 awe damn, coulda been first but i read the content.

and good to see the peace activist has opened her eyes to reality.

prayers for those remaining. and the soldiers rooting out the evil of hamas.

and may the terrorists die in a fire of their own making...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 21, 2024 04:03 PM (UCRjB)

6 Can we trade them for the entire Columbia University administration?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2024 04:03 PM (guGkK)

7 The best thing to do with savages is to put them down like the vermin they are.

Unfortunately, Israel is not going to be allowed to do that.

The cycle continues, rinse repeat for 80 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2024 04:04 PM (XV/Pl)

8 These cucks suck Zelensky’s dick when he whines that the US isn’t given Ukraine enough money and military help. In front of Congress .

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 04:04 PM (SHMXB)

9 I'd be shocked if that many were alive

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 04:04 PM (N1DT3)

10 Eh, they should have shot every Palestinian prisoner in Israel on October 8th. Then said "return them alive, or we'll kill every Palestinian, period."

Then, whether or not they returned the hostages, kill them all anyway.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:05 PM (0FoWg)

11 How many of these hostages are Americans?

Posted by: Maybe I missed it at June 21, 2024 04:05 PM (dg+HA)

12 An Israeli peace activist who was kidnapped and held hostage for 53 days in Gaza said the horrifying experience shattered her longstanding belief that there could be peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
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The old addage that a conservative is just a liberal who was raped by Hamas is applicable.

Honestly, this is pretty rare. Most will vow allegiance right to the point the rusty machete hacks through their clavicle.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (0cJyK)

13 I'm hoping Trump calls him "Fake Tapper" at the debate

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (RIvkX)

14 Eh, they should have shot every Palestinian prisoner in Israel on October 8th. Then said "return them alive, or we'll kill every Palestinian, period."

Then, whether or not they returned the hostages, kill them all anyway.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

From the river to the sea, Palestinians will cease to be.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (x5Ry2)

15 Have to admit, I was surprised that the IDF rescued 4 last week. I figured they were all dead.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (2UnvF)

16

All we are saying
is give war a chance

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (/7KEl)

17 Hamas delenda est
From the jump.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (vZp/+)

18 Hostages? What hostages?

That seems like that would be something talked about nightly like back in the 70s.

Especially since it's Iran again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (LjVn6)

19 US officials believe that as few as 50 of the 116 hostages held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip are still alive, according to a new report.
The assessment, based in part on Israeli intelligence, indicated that 66 of the remaining hostages are now dead,

mediators in the hostage talks and a US official told the Wall Street Journal.

Israel should walk into the room, ask the "hamass talkers shere the hostages are and when the refuse, shoot them in the face.

Rinse.

Repeat.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (5g81t)

20 A "peace activist" taken hostage by Hamas and then released says she's not in favor of "peace" any longer.

Huh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (qZEuM)

21 How about this negotiating position: "You have no negotiating position. We hold all the cards. We can kill your people at will, down to the last one, and there is nothing whatsoever you can do to avert that degringolade. Return them now, or you're all fucking dead. When you get to hell, say hello to disco for us... we Israelis love to DANCE."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:09 PM (0FoWg)

22 I wouldn't guess this many. Though recently read one woman was being kept as a housekeeping sex slave

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:09 PM (fwDg9)

23 10 Eh, they should have shot every Palestinian prisoner in Israel on October 8th. Then said "return them alive, or we'll kill every Palestinian, period."

Then, whether or not they returned the hostages, kill them all anyway.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:05 PM (0FoWg)

Agree 100%

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:09 PM (CbDvl)

24
How long does it take to cross-train a regular C-130 crew into an AC-130?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 21, 2024 04:10 PM (n+4am)

25 peace activist" taken hostage by Hamas and then released says she's not in favor of "peace" any longer.

Huh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (qZEuM)

Peace with Hamas. She’s on the ‘ Kill them all and let God sort them out’ wagon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 04:10 PM (SHMXB)

26 I’m amazed even that many hostages are alive. I’m glad but quite surprised…. I’ve assumed for awhile they’d all been murdered months ago by the savages….. I guess they’re keeping some alive as some kind of leverage pawns

The more the junta criticizes Bibi the more I like him. Actually I’ve admired Netanyahu for quite awhile. I know Israeli politics is totally different than ours but he seems Trumpian in some ways. The deep state in Israel seems to hate and fear him as much as ours does Trump

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2024 04:10 PM (xT8gx)

27 I have a great idea! Let’s build them a pier, give them tons of money and supplies, and maybe a hug.

Honestly, how do the people running the show look at themselves in the mirror?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2024 04:11 PM (pZEOD)

28 Afternoon.

So can we assume the reason those forty are still alive is because they're thick with Hamas's terrorist seed?

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:11 PM (hGjAx)

29 Have to admit, I was surprised that the IDF rescued 4 last week. I figured they were all dead.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (2UnvF)
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Yeah, I'm a bit surprised any of them are alive at this point.

Though I think most of them are probably young women that are being held as sex slaves, since that's permissible--nay, *expected*--in Islam. It's definitely in the Koran.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 04:11 PM (7fElN)

30
Israel should walk into the room, ask the "hamass talkers shere the hostages are and when the refuse, shoot them in the face.

Rinse.

Repeat.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (5g81t)

Ah yes, the Corbin Dallas Doctrine of Diplomacy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 21, 2024 04:12 PM (n+4am)

31 21 How about this negotiating position: "You have no negotiating position. We hold all the cards. We can kill your people at will, down to the last one, and there is nothing whatsoever you can do to avert that degringolade. Return them now, or you're all fucking dead.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:09 PM (0FoWg)

In 3….2…..1…

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2024 04:12 PM (pZEOD)

32 23 10 Eh, they should have shot every Palestinian prisoner in Israel on October 8th. Then said "return them alive, or we'll kill every Palestinian, period."

Then, whether or not they returned the hostages, kill them all anyway.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:05 PM (0FoWg)

Agree 100%

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:09 PM (CbDvl)

Yup.

Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2024 04:12 PM (14URa)

33 I think this has dragged on long enough. Either wrap it up or call it quits. Israel doesn't need the junta's permission.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 04:12 PM (Q4IgG)

34 From the river to the sea, Palestinians will cease to be.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 21, 2024 04:06 PM (x5Ry2)

Stealing this.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:13 PM (hGjAx)

35 Israel should walk into the room, ask the "hamass talkers shere the hostages are and when the refuse, shoot them in the face.

Rinse.

Repeat.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (5g81t)
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THAT'S how you negotiate.

Posted by: Korben Dallas at June 21, 2024 04:13 PM (7fElN)

36 Eh, they should have shot every Palestinian prisoner in Israel on October 8th. Then said "return them alive, or we'll kill every Palestinian, period."

Then, whether or not they returned the hostages, kill them all anyway.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

-

Philistine prisoner, or in general?

Also have you considered a VP nomination?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:14 PM (LjVn6)

37 So can we assume the reason those forty are still alive is because they're thick with Hamas's terrorist seed?
Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:11 PM (hGjAx

If so? Then kidnap 500 Arab babies from the hospitals, and promise the Palis they will be raised exclusively for the purpose of killing Arabs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:14 PM (0FoWg)

38 21 How about this negotiating position: "You have no negotiating position. We hold all the cards. We can kill your people at will, down to the last one, and there is nothing whatsoever you can do to avert that degringolade. Return them now, or you're all fucking dead.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:09 PM (0FoWg)
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It's really difficult to negotiate with a death cult. They LOVE death and they all aspire to become "martyrs." Of course, I'm totally on board with making them choke on it, so I have no problem with this negotiating tactic as long as they have the stones to follow through with it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 04:15 PM (7fElN)

39 28 28 Afternoon.

So can we assume the reason those forty are still alive is because they're thick with Hamas's terrorist seed?
Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:11 PM (hGjAx)

And to add to the trauma, if that is even possible, they will take the babies. Despite what we hear from the Dems, when you create life, you love that little life. The origin is horrific, but that is not the fault of that baby.

Death is too good for these cretins.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2024 04:15 PM (pZEOD)

40 If so? Then kidnap 500 Arab babies from the hospitals, and promise the Palis they will be raised exclusively for the purpose of killing Arabs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

+1

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 04:15 PM (5g81t)

41 Honestly, how do the people running the show look at themselves in the mirror?
Posted by: Piper

They're fucking pigs with no sense of shame.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 21, 2024 04:15 PM (qZEuM)

42 Ah yes, the Corbin Dallas Doctrine of Diplomacy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 21, 2024 04:12 PM (n+4am)

where... where did her learn to negotiate?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 21, 2024 04:16 PM (UCRjB)

43 Israel Defense Forces @IDF Jun 20
ELIMINATED: A Leading Hamas Sniper and Nukhba Forces Commander who Participated in the Oct. 7 Massacre

IAF aircraft conducted a precise and targeted strike to eliminate the Hamas terrorist Ahmed Hassan Salame Alsauarka in the area of Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza.

Alsauarka was a squad commander in the Nukhba Forces who infiltrated into and carried out attacks on communities in southern Israel during the Oct. 7 Massacre. Alsauarka led and directed sniper activity in the area of Beit Hanoun and took part in Hamas' attacks on IDF troops.

Prior to the strike, a number of steps were taken in order to mitigate harm to civilians during the operation. As a result, no civilians were injured during the strike.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 21, 2024 04:16 PM (ZdexC)

44 So can we assume the reason those forty are still alive is because they're thick with Hamas's terrorist seed?
Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:11 PM (hGjAx)

And to add to the trauma, if that is even possible, they will take the babies.

Arab babies blow up so quickly.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 04:16 PM (5g81t)

45 I have a great idea! Let’s build them a pier, give them tons of money and supplies, and maybe a hug.

Honestly, how do the people running the show look at themselves in the mirror?

Posted by: Piper

-

It's extremely simple, although it's so difficult to accept that American brains continue to refuse the obvious.

Spoilers: We're the baddies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:17 PM (LjVn6)

46 >>But Jake! You're criticizing the media! That means you support disinformation and lies! And the fascist suppression of "journalists"!

See, I’m a reasonable, measured and fair journalist worthy of hosting the Trump-Biden debates!!

Posted by: Fake Ass Tapper at June 21, 2024 04:17 PM (8u1Ia)

47 BTW Anybody want to pick up that quarter off the floor?

*zip*

Posted by: Fake Ass Tapper at June 21, 2024 04:18 PM (8u1Ia)

48 Honestly, how do the people running the show look at themselves in the mirror?

Posted by: Piper
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They laugh gleefully while rolling around in big piles of money stolen from the American taxpayer.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 04:18 PM (7fElN)

49 Prior to the strike, a number of steps were taken in order to mitigate harm to civilians during the operation. As a result, no civilians were injured during the strike.

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So there is no motivation by civilians to insist that this comes to an end.

Interesting tactic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:18 PM (LjVn6)

50 Does anyone know if that Baby that was stolen is still alive? I really don’t give a crap is Israel bombs Gaza into rubble.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (FCrpy)

51 >>A "peace activist" taken hostage by Hamas and then released says she's not in favor of "peace" any longer.

"Experience keeps a dear school, yet fools will learn at no other"

Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (w9hCp)

52 I can't fathom the agony of the families waiting when
things such as this routinely go through my mind: Times of Israel, 19 February 2024, 'IDF finds video of Bibas family in Gaza, ‘very concerned’ for mother, youngest hostages
Footage from day of kidnapping showing mom, toddler and baby wrapped in sheet and being forced into car is first proof of life since three were dragged into Gaza on October 7'

I would personally volunteer to water board Sinwar who scurried through the tunnels like a rat to save his family.

He's no man.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (NFX2v)

53 So far, despite the wreckage and death inflicted back on them for what they did Oct 7 I haven't seen ANY white flags.
I don't think there's enough pain being inflicted.

Even on Okinawa there were civilians surrendering. This bunch wants death. Mete death out.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (vZp/+)

54 "I don't believe in peace, I don't, sorry. I changed my mind," Ada Sagi, who was captured by Hamas on Oct. 7, at the start of the Israel-Hamas war, told the BBC.
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No, Ada, >I'm< sorry you're such a stupid bint that the other hostages never got a chance to "change their minds" because of your selfish, slow-witted, and simplistic view of the world.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (RIvkX)

55 I do think that every Palestinian/Hamas who comes into Israeli hands should be castrated. Live or die decision I leave to others.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (4GhzG)

56 Prior to the strike, a number of steps were taken in order to mitigate harm to civilians during the operation. As a result, no civilians were injured during the strike.

--

So there is no motivation by civilians to insist that this comes to an end.

Interesting tactic.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:18 PM (LjVn6)
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This is why the IDF will lose. With anyone else, avoiding civilian casualties is a good thing. With the Palis, causing MAXIMUM civilian casualties should be the point. THEY don't care about their civilians, so why should the IDF? If enough Gazans are killed, maybe they'll stop allowing the leaders to hide among them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 04:20 PM (7fElN)

57 They have American Hostages. They have declared themselves to be our enemy.

Biden Administration is giving them food...

How is that NOT giving Aid and Comfort, to an enemy, with is the Constitutional Definition of Treason.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2024 04:21 PM (xaFKb)

58 Prior to the strike, a number of steps were taken in order to mitigate harm to civilians during the operation. As a result, no civilians were injured during the strike.

And that's the bullshit that Israel puts on itself.

Look ... they put an alarm in taxis, close to Gaza, that go off based on GPS whenever the driver is taking you into Gaza. Why ?

Because the "civilian" is driving you into Gaza. And once you go in, you don't go out. There are very few "civilians" in Gaza. Just an hourglass, full of sand at the top that never goes empty, trickling down dudes and chics dressed in green killing Western Whites.

Israel is going through the guilt we go through, close to a century later, about nuking Japan. I would have nuked Japan at the time. They earned it.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:21 PM (+uTtZ)

59 How many hostages are trans? Or gay?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2024 04:22 PM (63Dwl)

60 This is why the IDF will lose. With anyone else, avoiding civilian casualties is a good thing. With the Palis, causing MAXIMUM civilian casualties should be the point. THEY don't care about their civilians, so why should the IDF? If enough Gazans are killed, maybe they'll stop allowing the leaders to hide among them.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Gazans overwhelmingly voted for it.

Fuck. Them.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 04:23 PM (5g81t)

61 The deep state in Israel seems to hate and fear him as much as ours does Trump
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2024 04:10 PM (xT8gx)
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There is only one junta.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:23 PM (RIvkX)

62 54 "I don't believe in peace, I don't, sorry. I changed my mind," Ada Sagi, who was captured by Hamas on Oct. 7, at the start of the Israel-Hamas war, told the BBC.
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No, Ada, >I'm
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:19 PM (RIvkX)

She is a little hard to take, isn't she? The story has a "Jew Placed on Train Develops Concerns" quality. I hope more of the hostages are as fortunate as her though.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes Had At Least One Good Idea at June 21, 2024 04:23 PM (JghT2)

63 WILLOWED
254 231
Now let us ask ... is it always a "binary choice" ? Is a Repub always better than a Demoncrat ? Every single time ? Yet we get this, every election season, and that season never stops
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I would have argued loudly a bad republican is better than a good democrat. Kinzinger and Mz. Cheney took a little wind out of my sails. Of course the argument could be made they aren’t even RINOs, they are full fledged Dems.

I do not ever envision voting for a Dem, though. There is just too great a chasm between them and me. I don’t fall into the perfect Republican trap, either. That person doesn’t exist.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2024 04:05 PM (pZEOD)

the "binary" choice scenario only works if the binary choice is led by the majority of the party.
The GOP hates their base and has been moving farther away from it for years, decades even... the leadership reflect none of the base priorities and they are proud of that fact.
If the GOP leadership backed the base, RINOs would be tolerable.. that is not the world we live in.

Posted by: Inogame at June 21, 2024 04:23 PM (53oGX)

64 Even on Okinawa there were civilians surrendering. This bunch wants death. Mete death out.
Posted by: torabora

The Japanese are an honorable people.

Gazans are pigs and will lie and then turn and kill you in your sleep.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (BZLGW)

65 Oh, and broadcast photos of those 500 babies being circumcised by mohels, wearing little yarmulkes with forelocks sewn in to them, and also big Flava Flav style Star of David medallions. Really grind their faces in it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (0FoWg)

66 Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2024 04:12 PM (14URa)
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Holy moly a Peaches sighting! I hope you are well.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (RIvkX)

67 20 A "peace activist" taken hostage by Hamas and then released says she's not in favor of "peace" any longer.

Huh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 21, 2024 04:07 PM (qZEuM)

My understanding is that everyone Israeli living near Gaza is an Ultra Liberal and they believed in living side by side with them and Oct 7 was a wake up call for them when the workers they had enter their homes and villages wrote detailed maps on how to murder and Kidnap them

It’s why they had the Concert near Gaza because Peace but the Pali’s wanted them in pieces

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (FCrpy)

68 Sinwar needs waterboarded until he just craps out.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2024 04:25 PM (vZp/+)

69 After 9-11 we went into Iraq and Afghanistan to murder every motherfucker that had anything to do with it. The ROE’s were meant to minimize civilian casualties, as they always are, but without kneecapping the guys trying to do their jobs in the battle space. If you were harboring dirtbags, you might as well call yourself an irregular. When we executed Neptune Spear, we told a whole bunch of people to fuck off, including an entire sovereign nation because we were getting UBL, whom they had been hiding. Whether or not the ISI knew, subject for another day. Point being, we went after people and smoked every one we could find no matter who got in the way. One of these is not like the other…

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 04:25 PM (33Ta2)

70 The Japanese are an honorable people.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (BZLGW)

Read about the "Bataan Death March".

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:25 PM (+uTtZ)

71 It's increasingly looking like the IDF will be initiating military action in southern Lebanon soon as well.

Things are going to get more spicy this summer.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 04:26 PM (Q4IgG)

72 Oh, and broadcast photos of those 500 babies being circumcised by mohels, wearing little yarmulkes with forelocks sewn in to them, and also big Flava Flav style Star of David medallions. Really grind their faces in it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (0FoWg)

I'm not Jewish but I would totally wear a Flava Flav sized Star Of David medallion.

Booooiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:26 PM (hGjAx)

73 58 Prior to the strike, a number of steps were taken in order to mitigate harm to civilians during the operation. As a result, no civilians were injured during the strike.

And that's the bullshit that Israel puts on itself.

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Wrong. That’s the bs we, and the world, put on Israel. We are supposed to be the leaders of the free world. We should be telling Hamas “Palestine? We don’t know her.” We should be saying if civilians get killed, that is on you, Hamas. We should be saying war is ugly. Very ugly. And while you started it, we are going to help Israel finish it.

The stories about colonialism and Zionist this or that that have suddenly become mainstream are absolutely disgusting and the people who are behind it (the left) should be shunned into next century.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2024 04:27 PM (pZEOD)

74 50 Does anyone know if that Baby that was stolen is still alive? I really don’t give a crap is Israel bombs Gaza into rubble.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

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Realistically, I had been against a Gaza genocide for a lot of reasons but without having any good ideas of what alternative options were viable.

Now I am starting to come around to the idea that Gaza and all inhabitants must be destroyed. This is a very harsh statement and I do not say it lightly, but how else to discourage such an act? Gaza and Gazans must be marked down in history as a lesson of what not to do. How not to survive. Failure in thinking.
10,000 years from now when a cult arises and says "let's wipe such and such country off the map," others must remind them of Gaza and their dreadful fate.

Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at June 21, 2024 04:27 PM (w9hCp)

75 Biden: Um, we have er new plun, new plan, a new please pan. But folks, I'm gonna get, gonna let Ophra come on up, come on erp Opa, in she'll tell you awl abut it!

Oprah: How about every Palestinian gets a NEW CAR!?

Posted by: Michigan Arab League at June 21, 2024 04:27 PM (qUkBO)

76 This makes me so flipping angry. I am going to go teach my last class and pray for Israel.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2024 04:27 PM (pZEOD)

77 Israel needs to finish Gaza as soon as possible so they can pivot to smack Hezbollah before they're facing a two front war.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 21, 2024 04:28 PM (ivVQZ)

78 "I don't believe in peace, I don't, sorry. I changed my mind," Ada Sagi, who was captured by Hamas on Oct. 7, at the start of the Israel-Hamas war, told the BBC.

Yeah that'll do it.

-The Goblin King down down down in goblin town

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:28 PM (o3Uyl)

79 The Japanese are an honorable people.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (BZLGW)

Read about the "Bataan Death March".
Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:25 PM (+uTtZ)

Or just look at the painting Dream Of The Fisherman's Wife.

Japanese are a bit on the kooky side.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2024 04:28 PM (hGjAx)

80 I hope the Gaza Strip is turned into the world's largest parking lot.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 04:29 PM (Aoykm)

81 70 The Japanese are an honorable people.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (BZLGW)

Read about the "Bataan Death March".
Posted by: Its Always

I like the Japs. I really do. But they sure didn't acquit themselves honorably in the most recent Pacific unpleasantness. Based on a very superficial and underinformed view of their history, I'd say that, historically, they've been easier to admire from a safe viewing distance.

Posted by: I'd Like to Visit Someday at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (JghT2)

82 The Japanese are an honorable people.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:24 PM (BZLGW)

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My uncle was in the South Pacific from Guadalcanal to Iwo Jima. His opinion was a bit different.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (2UnvF)

83 When Hamas went on a Rape and pillage spree on Oct 7 they don't do it like a military operation with a higher command taking prisoners, it's every man for himself to grab who they want, take what they want and kill who they want. Better described as a gang working together then high tail it back to their home with captives to use, sell or kill as they wish. Hostages often change hands many times being sold to other Hamas members or handed over to bosses.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (fwDg9)

84 I wouldn't be surprised if Blinken is giving targeting information to the Iranians who then give it to their proxys.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (vZp/+)

85 IMO
Hamas wont release any remaining hostages. They can't. Bargaining chip. Those poor people will have to escape or be rescued.

And if/when Hamas is faced with its 'bunker in Berlin' moment, when they know it's over, who knows what happens to any living prisoners then

again, all IMO

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (/7KEl)

86 Wrong. That’s the bs we, and the world, put on Israel.

I'll wrong you right back. One of the first things Rand Paul did, upon winning a Senate seat from Kentucky ... was speak in front of the Knesset. Where he informed them to get used to the idea of paying for their own defense, without American aid.

If Israel paid their own way ? They wouldn't have to care about Joey Biden's advisor's views on Israeli security.

Rand Paul was, of course, roundly criticized here at the time ... by all the usual players ... for his statements.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (+uTtZ)

87 My take is Japanese were honorable to other Japanese, any prisoners were not honorable because they didn't die fighting.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:31 PM (fwDg9)

88 When Hamas went on a Rape and pillage spree on Oct 7 they don't do it like a military operation with a higher command taking prisoners, it's every man for himself to grab who they want, take what they want and kill who they want. Better described as a gang working together then high tail it back to their home with captives to use, sell or kill as they wish. Hostages often change hands many times being sold to other Hamas members or handed over to bosses.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (fwDg9)
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Sounds a lot like pogroms in Czarist Russia.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:33 PM (RIvkX)

89 All that Gaza rubble should be bulldozed into the Mediterranean as a nice port breakwater and then the land made into a resort casino.
Don't worry about the Palestinians. There won't be any.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2024 04:33 PM (vZp/+)

90 Has the left started protesting any attempt by the Israelis to rescue the hostages?

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 21, 2024 04:33 PM (JLq/1)

91 Someone go look at the Geneva Conventions these idiots keep referring to and let me know if a non nation state who is not a signatory, and who employs irregulars, not in uniform are covered.

I’ll be right here. It shouldn’t take long.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 04:33 PM (33Ta2)

92 After 9-11 we went into Iraq and Afghanistan to murder every motherfucker that had anything to do with it. The ROE’s were meant to minimize civilian casualties, as they always are, but without kneecapping the guys trying to do their jobs in the battle space. If you were harboring dirtbags, you might as well call yourself an irregular. When we executed Neptune Spear, we told a whole bunch of people to fuck off, including an entire sovereign nation because we were getting UBL, whom they had been hiding. Whether or not the ISI knew, subject for another day. Point being, we went after people and smoked every one we could find no matter who got in the way. One of these is not like the other…

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And all entirely because al-Qaeda was too weak and unorganized to secure those nations themselves. They needed us to do it for them, and we did, and then celebrated handing the conquered people over to the terrorists.

We're seeing the continuation of that exact same foreign policy right now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:34 PM (LjVn6)

93 Christians don't realize, I on the other hand having been schooled by Catholics in Parochial School until age 12 have a perspective different of people who have not experienced being taught religion as a subject along with the three R's.

When you have people called to prayer 5 times a day the 'religion' becomes their reality. You will not. can not "change their minds"

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:34 PM (o3Uyl)

94 Liberals and reality don't mix well together.

Like oil and unicorn urine.

Posted by: Stateless at June 21, 2024 04:34 PM (jvJvP)

95 My take is Japanese were honorable to other Japanese, any prisoners were not honorable because they didn't die fighting.

I would advise you, instead of reading about "Bataan", to read anything about the dynastic changes that constantly occurred in Japan - when they weren't busy trying to conquer Korea or China.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:34 PM (+uTtZ)

96 Bibi has the only answer. Collateral damage BE DAMNED!!

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:36 PM (o3Uyl)

97 The Japanese were a terrible enemy, but a wonderful friend.

The exact opposite of Biden's America.

Drops mic.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at June 21, 2024 04:36 PM (wBaIH)

98 I have read 2 books on The Rape of Nanking

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:36 PM (fwDg9)

99 I’ll be right here. It shouldn’t take long.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 04:33 PM (33Ta2)

At a minimum, a non-signatory is covered if they at least uniform up to the level of a color or sash or something. Hamas has that covered. But they're also supposed to go through the motions of prisoner exchange and such.

So ... no. To Hell with Hamas. And the population that supports them.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:36 PM (+uTtZ)

100 Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:30 PM (+uTtZ)

And they've decided to build much of their own military equipment. They were getting 3 billion in aid per year prior to 10/7. We've given Ukraine close to 200 billion .

Rand Paul is on the opposite end of being wrong about military aid to allies.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 04:37 PM (SHMXB)

101 Phew! Finished powerwashing the front of the house. Looks 6000% better.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 04:37 PM (3Fz6p)

102 My opinion on Imperial Japan isn't favorable any way you slice it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (fwDg9)

103 Military aid to foreign countries shouldn't be carte blanche ad infinatum

We can't find everyone else's military and continue to ignore our own.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (tHKLd)

104 Christians don't realize, I on the other hand having been schooled by Catholics in Parochial School

Just one note: Catholics are Christians but maybe that's not what you meant.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (XkYcA)

105 The only thing Arabs have ever understood is naked force and terror. Make them shit themselves in fear, and they'll get back in the sand where they belong and grovel in front of you like you were some kind of meteorite. But there is no half measure. Nothing else can ever work.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:39 PM (0FoWg)

106 My take is Japanese were honorable to other Japanese, any prisoners were not honorable because they didn't die fighting.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:31 PM

During WWII the Japanese culture is not close to what it is today. Their entire society operated the Bushido code back then. Warriors were at the top of the pecking order with nearly everyone else* subject to their whims. The Japanese during that time period were brutal to anyone not Japanese and anyone Japanese that were inferior in rank to them. The military was an extreme example of this. Officers and NCO's would routinely beat their men for any reason or no reason and they had to stand there and take whatever punishment they received without complaint.

*Certain classes of educated and skilled people like craftsmen, doctors, skilled laborers, factory workers and the like were outside of normal society and were not usually abused and were for the most part unmolested by the warrior class.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 21, 2024 04:39 PM (QNSds)

107 I would like to take every giggling pink/purple/green haired pierced protesting lesbo and drop them of in a Detroit Muslim NoGo Zone....

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:39 PM (o3Uyl)

108 87 My take is Japanese were honorable to other Japanese, any prisoners were not honorable because they didn't die fighting.
Posted by: Skip

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This has truth in it.

Japan behaved like most countries before the 20th century, and certainly the way most Asians behave even today. War is not a game of cricket (to quote the great Colonel Saito.)

Also, relevant to the current post, most people, honorable or not, are not "Christians" and they fight wars in order to destroy.

We keep expecting the M. E. to act in as good Christians (to quote The Governor) I am only partially joking though -- war is about destroying whatever needs to be destroyed in order to win.

Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at June 21, 2024 04:39 PM (w9hCp)

109 There are eight US citizens still listed as hostages of Hamas. The fact that none of the US media outlets camp out on this story or even outline it in their related stories is absolutely disgusting. The silence from the Biden administration on this issue is disturbing.

It would be negative election coverage, and that's all that matters. Biden really is piece of excrement.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 04:40 PM (dIske)

110 My opinion on Imperial Japan isn't favorable any way you slice it
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (fwDg9)
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The same racism, fascism, and imperialism that drove them also animate the contemporary CCP.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:40 PM (RIvkX)

111 Frankly I dislike Japanese culture very much.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 04:40 PM (SHMXB)

112 There are eight US citizens still listed as hostages of Hamas. The fact that none of the US media outlets camp out on this story or even outline it in their related stories is absolutely disgusting. The silence from the Biden administration on this issue is disturbing.

It would be negative election coverage, and that's all that matters. Biden really is piece of excrement.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 04:40 PM (dIske)
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Are they black lesbian potheads?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:41 PM (RIvkX)

113 The only thing Arabs have ever understood is naked force and terror.

The Morgenthau Plan ... instead of the Marshall Plan. We've been insisting on the Marshall plan for almost a century now.

A War for Oil would have been EXACTLY perfect after 9/11. If that meant the various factions would have been too busy surviving to piss away money training crews to only fly an airplane instead of land it.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:41 PM (+uTtZ)

114 It would be negative election coverage, and that's all that matters. Biden really is piece of excrement.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 04:40 PM (dIske)
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Excrement objects to comparing Joe Biden to excrement.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 04:41 PM (3Fz6p)

115 Just one note: Catholics are Christians but maybe that's not what you meant.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (XkYcA)

Catholics are Christians that NEVER open the bible. On Sunday the Priest will read the Gospel. The rest is ritual many many rituals.

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:42 PM (o3Uyl)

116 It's five American hostages.
What are their names?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2024 04:42 PM (dg+HA)

117 Excrement objects to comparing Joe Biden to excrement.

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DURING PRIDE MONTH?!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:43 PM (LjVn6)

118 The Japanese were the only worthy foe the US ever fought aside from the South. I will give them that. But their concept of honor is so different from ours that it's a meaningless discussion.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 04:43 PM (0FoWg)

119
116 It's five American hostages.
What are their names?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2024 04:42 PM (dg+HA)
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Edan Alexander.
Itay Chen Z”L
Sagui Dekel-Chen
Hersh Goldberg-Polin
Gadi Haggai Z”L
Judith Weinstein Haggai Z”L
Omer Neutra
Keith Siegel

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 04:46 PM (dIske)

120 (Tries to remember who burnt down the University of Alabama library)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:46 PM (LjVn6)

121 >> The ROE’s were meant to minimize civilian casualties,

Here's the problem

The ONLY reason to minimize civilian casualties is to minimize the the knock on effects of being painted as savages.

Yet a lot of people today think you minimize civilians because "they are innocent", or "victims, too"
No. the objective is to destroy the culture that created the threat. If that can be done without wasting bullets on civilians, then OK, but saving civilians and losing the war will only lead to more civilian deaths in the future.

We got confused after we bombed Hiroshima - all the pinko idiots wanted to paint that as "evil," but it was not, it was necessary. It was the point of war - to win. No one fights a war to minimize killing the people on the other side who started it.

Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at June 21, 2024 04:47 PM (w9hCp)

122 Catholics don't open the Bible as much as Protestants, especially evangelicals. To say "never" is ridiculous.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2024 04:47 PM (iS7CT)

123 Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:42 PM (o3Uyl

I wouldn't make a blanket statement about all Catholics and their level of engagement with Scripture. We have a number of Catholics here who seems to attend groups where study of the Scripture is an important part of it, and you can find all sorts of Books and Bible studies that are directed towards Catholics and talks on the internet that have Scripture as their foundation.

I just dislike the infighting among Christians which we sometimes see here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (XkYcA)

124 Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 04:46 PM

Thx.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (dg+HA)

125 The latest CNN ratings are the envy of the producers of The Acolyte.

Woof. Doggy doo-doo.

Should call it a "mid-teir specialty vlog with aging talent" by those ratings.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (btmFm)

126 Odds that Fake Tapper & the other bimbo MDM-MSM sycophantic whore moderator pull a Donna Brazile (with Killary) and provide F. Joe's handlers the debate questions in advance (likely already done)?

The bidding opens at 100% ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (7aYVJ)

127 Lately (past year) I have been streaming footage of several documentaries of the war in the Pacific. A contractor I worked for in FL served on Saipan.... The Pacific campaign started in Guadalcanal. Dear Lord talk about BMF's. just wow.

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:49 PM (o3Uyl)

128 126 Odds that Fake Tapper & the other bimbo MDM-MSM sycophantic whore moderator pull a Donna Brazile (with Killary) and provide F. Joe's handlers the debate questions in advance (likely already done)?

The bidding opens at 100% ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (7aYVJ)

Oh he has them... They're practicing right now

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2024 04:49 PM (Akjoo)

129 115 Just one note: Catholics are Christians but maybe that's not what you meant.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (XkYcA)

Catholics are Christians that NEVER open the bible. On Sunday the Priest will read the Gospel. The rest is ritual many many rituals.
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:42 PM (o3Uyl)

The Bible that Catholic’s translated and put together

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 21, 2024 04:49 PM (FCrpy)

130 Good thing we made Hamas our partners in peace with that donation of, now, near $500 million for a pier to nowhere for nothing to help nobody.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 04:50 PM (btmFm)

131 We got confused after we bombed Hiroshima - all the pinko idiots wanted to paint that as "evil," but it was not, it was necessary. It was the point of war - to win. No one fights a war to minimize killing the people on the other side who started it.

Point of Order - and on this, I'll argue all day. We were confused, as a society, EVEN WHILE WE WERE BUILDING THE BOMBS TO DROP ON HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI. Confused after. Confused ever since.

I get tired of this view of the "Greatest Generation". They were the first of the conflicted generations. This polarized internalization blossomed then.

Most of the scientists at Los Alamos ? Pinkos.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:50 PM (+uTtZ)

132 122 Catholics don't open the Bible as much as Protestants, especially evangelicals. To say "never" is ridiculous.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2024 04:47 PM (iS7CT)

I don't really fall into either category at this point. I don't see too much evidence of greater Bible literacy from Protestants relative to others these days though. Lots of Protestant denominations, churches, and congregations seem to have become shells of what they once were.

Posted by: But I'm Probably Seeing a Nonrandom Sample Too at June 21, 2024 04:51 PM (JghT2)

133 128 126 Odds that Fake Tapper & the other bimbo MDM-MSM sycophantic whore moderator pull a Donna Brazile (with Killary) and provide F. Joe's handlers the debate questions in advance (likely already done)?

The bidding opens at 100% ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (7aYVJ)

Oh he has them... They're practicing right now

The more I think about it I bet Joe's handlers gave CNN the questions for both Biden and Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2024 04:49 PM (Akjoo)

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2024 04:51 PM (Akjoo)

134 The Japanese were the only worthy foe the US ever fought aside from the South. I will give them that. But their concept of honor is so different from ours that it's a meaningless discussion.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Johnny Canuck kicked our asses good and proper in the War of 1812.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2024 04:51 PM (Dm8we)

135 which denomination has the most Jesus in it

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2024 04:52 PM (/7KEl)

136 Catholics are Christians that NEVER open the bible. On Sunday the Priest will read the Gospel. The rest is ritual many many rituals.
Posted by: Im Gumby

Too bad you're full of it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 21, 2024 04:52 PM (UC3nL)

137 >>>Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 04:46 PM

Thx.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (dg+HA)
******
Yes, thank you. like most of the FJB administration, I didn’t know that.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 21, 2024 04:52 PM (clr1x)

138 I don't see too much evidence of greater Bible literacy from Protestants relative to others these days though.

Got my ass whipped, and good, by my Baptist grandparents for having the audacity to imply that I can read the book myself.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:52 PM (+uTtZ)

139 I’m skeptical that even 50 hostages are still alive. I’m also skeptical that there were ever that many hostages taken alive. The Palis (notice I didn’t say “Hamas”

murdered almost all of them, then made up a hostage number.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 04:53 PM (8eKkh)

140 Press Release - President Biden Announces Key Appointments to Boards and Commissions
July 01, 2022

Elizabeth Hirsch Naftali, Commission Member, United States Commission for the Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad

30 November 2023, Hunter Biden art buyer advocated for her great-niece's release from Hamas, By Ben Weingarten, Real Clear Wire

In part, The American kidnap victim released by the terrorist group Hamas during its ongoing ceasefire with Israel is a great-niece of Elizabeth Hirsh Naftali, a major Democratic party donor who paid handsomely for Hunter Biden’s art and won an appointment to a plum cultural post from President Biden.

Hirsh Naftali's Biden connections went all but unmentioned as she advocated in a series of nationally televised interviews for the release of her 4-year-old grandniece, Abigail Mor Idan, a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen whose parents were murdered by marauding jihadists in southern Israel on Oct. 7. She is the only American thus far among the 61 mostly women and children exchanged for Palestinian Arab prisoners in a fragile negotiated truce.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 21, 2024 04:53 PM (NFX2v)

141 Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:50 PM (+uTtZ)

Yes, Scogg; We know you have a "thing" about "The Greatest Generation", Boomers and law enforcement etc..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 04:53 PM (XkYcA)

142 "I don't believe in peace, I don't, sorry. I changed my mind," Ada Sagi, who was captured by Hamas on Oct. 7, at the start of the Israel-Hamas war, told the BBC.

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Old Busted: Mugged By Reality.
New Hotness: Raped By Reality.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 21, 2024 04:53 PM (7aYVJ)

143 Kfir Bibas has spent half of his infant life being held by the mutherfucking sandmaggots.

Fuck winken ,blinken and nod. You are the reason there are still hostages.

Oh, and Ada, why are choosing surrender of your country?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2024 04:54 PM (8i5Iz)

144 136 Catholics are Christians that NEVER open the bible. On Sunday the Priest will read the Gospel. The rest is ritual many many rituals.
Posted by: Im Gumby

Too bad you're full of it.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 21, 2024 04:52 PM (UC3nL)

And yet, oddly, I will debate anyone on any part of the Bible, I know it that well. Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Our Lord and Savior. Catholics are, in fact, rather adamant on that point.

Little tired of the slander, but I guess Jesus said it would be so.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at June 21, 2024 04:55 PM (cPl+1)

145 President Biden Announces Appointees for the United States Holocaust Memorial Council

Leah Pisar

In part, "Dr. Leah Pisar is Chair of Project Aladdin, which seeks to counter anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, hate and extremism by teaching the universal lessons of the Holocaust and building bridges of knowledge among Jews, Christians and Muslims."

BTW, she's Tony Blinken's half sister.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 21, 2024 04:55 PM (NFX2v)

146 I think Muslims differ in their political religion (much like the left) only in how far they're willing to go to maintain dominance. I suspect there's more in common between Islam and the hardcore left than is generally believed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 04:55 PM (Q4IgG)

147 I find myself thinking of the French human shields in Bosnia when they were chained to the doors of ammo bunkers. The French government let it be known they would be honored and remembered in song And monuments for as long as the Republic stood.
They were removed from the bunkers the next morning.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2024 04:56 PM (W/lyH)

148 Only one side has captured civilians, raped them, killed them, holds them in residential houses where they continue to torture and rape them.

The other side is being charged with war crimes.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 04:56 PM (btmFm)

149 But Hunter's art and your kidnapped relatives will be released by Hamas.

It's an inside job.

Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2024 04:56 PM (vZp/+)

150 The Bible that Catholic’s translated and put together
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 21, 2024 04:49 PM (FCrpy)

And that Protestants edited out books from, that they didn't care for.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at June 21, 2024 04:56 PM (cPl+1)

151 The Los Alamos scientists may have been confused, but soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines in the South Pacific were not.

See the difference?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at June 21, 2024 04:56 PM (wBaIH)

152 I think Muslims differ in their political religion (much like the left) only in how far they're willing to go to maintain dominance. I suspect there's more in common between Islam and the hardcore left than is generally believed.

I've, unfortunately, had to work around a few. They remind me, in no small way, of the "Back the Blue" crowd.

They both like to see heads cracked. Most of both don't actually want to crack heads themselves. But as long as the right heads crack ? It's all good in the hood.

At your throat or at your feet.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (+uTtZ)

153 Instead of z"l may his memory be a blessing, in the case of murdered hostages, it would be more proper imho to denote h"yd may hashem avenge his blood.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (RIvkX)

154
I wouldn't make a blanket statement about all Catholics and their level of engagement with Scripture. We have a number of Catholics here who seems to attend groups where study of the Scripture is an important part of it, and you can find all sorts of Books and Bible studies that are directed towards Catholics and talks on the internet that have Scripture as their foundation.

I just dislike the infighting among Christians which we sometimes see here.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 04:48 PM (XkYcA)

My school was founded in the 1860's by an Irish order from Notre Dame. Silence was the word of the day.... They ruled with fear. Many tenents in the Catholic religion are nowhere to be found in the bible.
Mortal vs venial sin
purgatory
confession to a priest
the seven sacraments
first Friday mass
novenas
plenary indulgence
The Priests and Bishops in Europe would take cash payments to absolve criminal family leadesr of their sins. So meh I own a RED LETTER Bible Anything Jesus said is in red...
Martin Luther spilled the beans.... heh heh

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (o3Uyl)

155 It would appear at this point there are five American hostages, all male:

1. Keith Siegel, 65
2. Sagui Dekel-Chen, 35
3. Omer Neutra, 22
4. Edan Alexander, 20
5. Hersh Goldberg-Polin, 23

This is about five weeks old
https://tinyurl.com/2p86hz94

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (dg+HA)

156 Hamas wants a 2 state solution and a ceasefire.
Both things they had until Oct. 7 2023.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (MeG8a)

157 Peaceful Protestors on Jan 6: JAIL THEM ALL. FOREVER. LET THEM ROT

Murders and Rapists on Oct 7: Israel holding them is a crime against humanity

Posted by: The left at June 21, 2024 04:58 PM (oZhjI)

158 156 Hamas wants a 2 state solution and a ceasefire.
Both things they had until Oct. 7 2023.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (MeG8a)

Which proves they don't want either of those things... They want a one State ultimate solution... The death of Israel

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2024 04:59 PM (Akjoo)

159 It would appear at this point there are five American hostages, all male:

Heritage America would have made war on their kidnappers and burned Gaza until they were returned.

Soviet America though? Meh f*ck those guys.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2024 04:59 PM (oZhjI)

160 Peaceful Protestors on Jan 6: JAIL THEM ALL. FOREVER. LET THEM ROT

Murders and Rapists on Oct 7: Israel holding them is a crime against humanity
Posted by: The left

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Like Pelosi accidentally admitted a few weeks ago, the J6 folks didn't follow the pre-approved script.

The Philistines are behaving the way they're supposed to.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 04:59 PM (LjVn6)

161 >> And all entirely because al-Qaeda was too weak and unorganized to secure those nations themselves. They needed us to do it for them, and we did, and then celebrated handing the conquered people over to the terrorists.

Entirely incorrect. The Tali were in league with AQ and harboring UBL and his fighters. Same with the Paki’s who we’re letting them roam back and forth over the mountains to winter and receive aid in Pakistink. The Tali only paid a price because of their support for AQ. Nobody really gave a big fig about them and AFG before that happened. They were a minor player in a proxy war. The mission objective was to drive AQ out, and we did, twice. The Tali were just at first supplementing AQ, then became a relative non factor, then got pissed off because we stayed too long when the dunces at State decided we should take the Tali out of power and install a friendly government. You have to understand, the Tali may be 12th century shitbag extremist but they have a decent amount of support from many of the tribes. The people at State, as fucking usual, stepped on their dicks with their idealist nation building bullshit. We met the mission objective. State is still f’ing it up

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 05:00 PM (npuv0)

162 The Los Alamos scientists may have been confused, but soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines in the South Pacific were not. See the difference?

Of course. Percentage of the American Populace that joined the military during WW II ? Slightly less than 10% at the end.

The scientist weren't the only ones confused. The seeds of the 60s were sown in the 40s.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 05:00 PM (+uTtZ)

163 150 The Bible that Catholic’s translated and put together
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 21, 2024 04:49 PM (FCrpy)

And that Protestants edited out books from, that they didn't care for.
Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at June 21, 2024 04:56 PM (cPl+1)

I don't know that this is a reasonable criticism. It didn't show up as the Bible. The books were selected in the first instance.

Posted by: Men Have Always Had a Hand in Deciding What is Canon at June 21, 2024 05:00 PM (JghT2)

164 Hate to say it, but big hostage exchanges get you … more hostages taken.

What else does Hamas have to keep Israel from flattening Gaza? Ok, the protests here and in Europe makes it less politically viable, but Hamas is an existential threat.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2024 05:00 PM (Hkcdp)

165 Hilarious.

@thestustustudio

>>Code Pink is now targeting CNN's
@jaketapper
. In a hilarious development, Tapper's children waved to Code Pink from the porch and played the Star-Spangled Banner for the protestors.

Check out the video.

https://tinyurl.com/4836h2w7

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2024 05:01 PM (LkLld)

166 We met the mission objective.
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The problem is not accepting the objective of the actual mission of securing those nations for our friends who couldn't do it themselves.

We saw it in real life. We watched it happen. We're watching something similar happen right now.

We're on the side of the terrorists. We're acting (and, when needed, fighting) for their benefit.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 05:02 PM (LjVn6)

167 You need MOUNT ops to drive out Hamas. The IDF knows it. Hell, our advisors know it. There is no easy, clean way to do this and the delay will only cost lives, not save them.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 05:02 PM (npuv0)

168 We're on the side of the terrorists. We're acting (and, when needed, fighting) for their benefit.

Now do Syria.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 21, 2024 05:03 PM (+uTtZ)

169 I feel exactly as bad for the innocent Palies killed by Israel as the left feels for the 1,400 murdered and raped on 10/7/23.

None.

Not even a blip.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 05:03 PM (btmFm)

170 >> You need MOUNT ops to drive out Hamas.

MOUT. Fuck You spellcheck.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 05:03 PM (npuv0)

171 77 Israel needs to finish Gaza as soon as possible so they can pivot to smack Hezbollah before they're facing a two front war.
Posted by: Beartooth at June 21, 2024 04:28 PM (ivVQZ)

That seems to be the plan.

"Israel will announce soon that Hamas military wing in Gaza has been defeated,
@kann_news reports; terror battalions in Rafah degraded as IDF moves closer to completing operation; next, Israeli forces will shift to phase 3 of war: Limited ops against remaining terror pockets."

https://x.com/IsraelRadar_com/status/1804235617338802186

And someone knows "something" is brewing soon.

"The Canadian military is drawing up plans to evacuate 45,000 people from Lebanon should a full-scale war break out between Israel and Hezbollah, Canada's FM tells Israel's FM "

https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1804221211712590121

Posted by: Thrawn at June 21, 2024 05:03 PM (uGhsv)

172 Ok, the protests here and in Europe makes it less politically viable, but Hamas is an existential threat.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2024 05:00 PM (Hkcdp)

Meh, Europe has been irrelevant for 80 years and America is a paper tiger. The West can be safely disregarded. Israel seems to be slowly awakening to this fact, which is nice.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 05:04 PM (0FoWg)

173 Martin Luther spilled the beans.... heh heh
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 04:57 PM (o3Uyl)

Martin Luther was a heretic and an antisemite. He regretted his schism on his deathbed. I probably wouldn't look to Luther for a model of Christian behavior and language. You might want to read his actual writings, rather than his hagiographies.

What you know about Christianity is very limited, Sport, and while it is probably not my place to school you, if you really wish to climb out of your ignorance you might read the Early church Fathers.

In the meantime, a little humility always works before Our Lord.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at June 21, 2024 05:04 PM (C26rB)

174 The Canadian military is drawing up plans to evacuate 45,000 people from Lebanon should a full-scale war break out between Israel and Hezbollah, Canada's FM tells Israel's FM "

https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1804221211712590121
Posted by: Thrawn at June 21, 2024 05:03 PM (uGhsv)

Damn almost the entire Canadian population lives in Lebanon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 05:05 PM (SHMXB)

175
Too bad you're full of it.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 21, 2024 04:52 PM (UC3nL)

And yet, oddly, I will debate anyone on any part of the Bible, I know it that well. Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Our Lord and Savior. Catholics are, in fact, rather adamant on that point.

Little tired of the slander, but I guess Jesus said it would be so.
Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at June 21, 2024 04:55 PM (cPl+1)

My point exactly. IE: Muslims praying five times a day to Allah will CAN NOT be integrated into civil society . Muslims are barbarians of the highest order. Bibi going though them like crap through a goose. Collateral damage be damned.

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 05:05 PM (o3Uyl)

176 We met the mission objective.
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The problem is not accepting the objective of the actual mission of securing those nations for our friends who couldn't do it themselves.

We saw it in real life. We watched it happen. We're watching something similar happen right now.

We're on the side of the terrorists. We're acting (and, when needed, fighting) for their benefit.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 05:02 PM (LjVn6)

We used to be moderately on the side of the terrorists with all the crap with the PLO and Arafat. But each year we put more and more UN money on the side of Hamas and more obstacles in the way of Israel.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 21, 2024 05:06 PM (eoQWY)

177 “ We're on the side of the terrorists. We're acting (and, when needed, fighting) for their benefit.”

Whose “we”, white man?

State, Dementia Douchebag and the Democrat Party are the ones supporting the terrorists, mostly to try and win a domestic election.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 05:06 PM (npuv0)

178 We're on the side of the terrorists. We're acting (and, when needed, fighting) for their benefit.

Now do Syria.
Posted by: Its Always Been This Way

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Ha. Remember when Trump told the military "get out of Syria" and the Obedient Generals ignored his commands?

Seems like there's a word for that, but oh well.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 05:07 PM (LjVn6)

179 Is Canada evacuating 45k locals or Canadian nationals?

Egypt should take the Palis, seeing as they were content to host the tunnels in/out of Israel for Hamas weapons smuggling. We still doing that “Pottery Barn” rule thingy?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2024 05:07 PM (Hkcdp)

180 174 The Canadian military is drawing up plans to evacuate 45,000 people from Lebanon should a full-scale war break out between Israel and Hezbollah, Canada's FM tells Israel's FM

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Is removing 45,000 Lebanese supposed to be some kind of threat? Please don't throw Israel in that briar patch, eh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 05:07 PM (0FoWg)

181 Nood scary pic.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2024 05:08 PM (Dm8we)

182 “ We're on the side of the terrorists. We're acting (and, when needed, fighting) for their benefit.”

Whose “we”, white man?

State, Dementia Douchebag and the Democrat Party are the ones supporting the terrorists, mostly to try and win a domestic election.
Posted by: Marcus T

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The United States. These guys:

"...When we executed Neptune Spear, we told a whole bunch of people to fuck off, including an entire sovereign nation because we were getting UBL, whom they had been hiding. Whether or not the ISI knew, subject for another day. Point being, we went after people..."

We did it for the terrorists. It's okay to accept it. It's the only way to get past it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Images of perfect women created with AI aren't being created with tattoo prompts. at June 21, 2024 05:09 PM (LjVn6)

183 Those Code Pink girls in the video seem nice.

How much are they being paid to stand on the sidewalk of a quiet residential street and disturb the peace?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2024 05:09 PM (dg+HA)

184 Ever notice how the Christian critics who like the stupid old saw of, "why does God allow suffering, evil and death?" never seem to get around to asking that of the muzzie god?

Not that anyone who makes that argument is a deep thinker (looking at you Neil Tyson), but they sure aren't consistent.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 05:10 PM (btmFm)

185 Agreed, YD. I’d support Bibi’s plans over Biden’s simply because Bibi understands what’s at stake. Biden doesn’t even know where he is half the time, and is directed by a Palestinian advisor.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2024 05:11 PM (Hkcdp)

186 ...The people at State, as fucking usual, stepped on their dicks with their idealist nation building bullshit. We met the mission objective. State is still f’ing it up
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 05:00 PM (npuv0)
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*President Thieu has entered the chat*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 05:11 PM (RIvkX)

187 “ Ha. Remember when Trump told the military "get out of Syria" and the Obedient Generals ignored his commands?”

CiNC commanded a withdrawal which was arguably slow walked because he also wanted to keep the Syrian oil fields, which we still
Own mainly with SF. There were some complex objectives that needed to be met in order to ensure proper force protection. This is one where I kind of go, meh and let it slide.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2024 05:12 PM (npuv0)

188 Organized Religion is like every other organization. Eventually it’s taken over by those who try to change it 180 degrees from its original mission statement.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 05:12 PM (SHMXB)

189 Johnny Canuck kicked our asses good and proper in the War of 1812.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 21, 2024 04:51 PM (Dm8we)

That was England, and just a campaign not a war. Canada was not even self ruled at that time. We had an invasion of the area repelled in the Revolution as well, but even before we blasted Wellington's men who beat Napoleon in Spain into ruin outside of New Orleans England was getting out of the mess with as little damage as possible. No way they wanted their rear colonies in the Caribbean under threat from the US whenever war broke out in Europe.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 21, 2024 05:16 PM (eoQWY)

190 Martin Luther was a heretic and an antisemite. He regretted his schism on his deathbed. I probably wouldn't look to Luther for a model of Christian behavior and language. You might want to read his actual writings, rather than his hagiographies.

What you know about Christianity is very limited, Sport, and while it is probably not my place to school you, if you really wish to climb out of your ignorance you might read the Early church Fathers.

In the meantime, a little humility always works before Our Lord.
Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at June 21, 2024 05:04 PM (C26rB)

It's nice of you to read the facts I posted. Thank you
The Catholic religion is based Soley on politics and hierarchy. It is quite obvious when you delve into the convoluted teachings of the elitist "theologians" all puffed up with approval of the group spewing theories and "teachings" the "common man" didn't have access to until Guttenberg. sport

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 21, 2024 05:17 PM (o3Uyl)

191 Ever hear of the Warsaw Ghetto?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2024 05:19 PM (fvaUq)

192 I'm into my 3rd 6.1% 710ml beer right now as the painter is finishing up. Drinking very slowly.

So us Canadians have something to offer the world.

Day drinking.

None of you would have ever figured that out without us probably...

Posted by: Stateless at June 21, 2024 05:21 PM (jvJvP)

193 My opinion on Imperial Japan isn't favorable any way you slice it
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 04:38 PM (fwDg9)
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The same racism, fascism, and imperialism that drove them also animate the contemporary CCP.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2024 04:40 PM (RIvkX)

The removal of colonizing Europeans they triggered sounded good to some Asians, until they actually arrived in-country. Then they learned that bad as the colonists were, the Japanese were worse and disputing them was a death sentence.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 21, 2024 05:24 PM (eoQWY)

194
That picture of David French could be used as a form of birth control.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 21, 2024 06:10 PM (+oR7L)

195 If there is a ray of hope, it's that history tells us that the American Intelligence services don't know shit.

Posted by: STV at June 22, 2024 11:48 AM (P5JRd)

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