In the UK, Reform Vaults Ahead of the Collapsing Tories

The "Conservatives" in the UK enjoyed the same advantage that the pseud-right GOPe enjoys in the US: People hate the party, but won't split from it, because they feel that voting for a minor party would be throwing their vote away.

But now it appears that right-leaning voters are realizing something: The "Conservatives" themselves are now a minor party. Therefore, voting for them is throwing away a vote, and they're also awful on top of that.

So why not vote for the slightly less minor party, Reform?

Matt Goodwin
@GoodwinMJ
NEW BOMBSHELL poll
Labour 35%
Reform 24%
Conservatives 15%
Liberal Democrats 12%
Greens 8%
SNP 3%
PeoplePolling/GBN Jun 18th
Sample: 1,228 British adults

The right will lose the battle, but if they destroy the fake "Conservative" Party that acts as the handmaiden of race-based Marxism, they might wind up winning the war.

Later.

Sometimes, things happen that completely knock you sideways. And today is one such moment. My firm People Polling, on behalf of its client GB News, surveyed a nationally representative sample of 1,228 British adults. We asked them how they plan to vote at the UK general election on July 4.
Here are our numbers:
Labour 35%
Reform 24%
Conservatives 15%
Liberal Democrats 12%
Greens 8%
SNP 3%
That's right. Nigel Farage and Reform are on 24%, in second place, and some 9-points clear of Rishi Sunak and the Tories.
Were the above numbers to appear at the general election, in only fifteen days time, then the result would be, well, seismic in more ways than one.
Keir Starmer and the Labour Party would win the election comfortably, with a Labour majority of around 240 seats.
The Tories would crash and burn, falling to only around 45 seats. The Lib Dems would finish with more seats than the Tories, on around 64. Nigel Farage and Reform would not be far behind, on around 50. And the Greens would win two.

Other polls don't yet show Reform pulling ahead of the "Conservatives:"

Furthermore, this evening several MRP polls are likewise pointing to a large Labour majority and putting the Tories on only around 50-108 seats.
One, by YouGov, puts Reform on 15% of the vote and gives Farage & Co. five seats.

But this pollster points out they were the first to detect the collapse of the "Conservatives," which everyone else now confirms:

Matt Goodwin
@GoodwinMJ
Do read the Substack. I've been as open & transparent as poss. We were widely criticised by established pollsters months ago for showing a Tory collapse. We were ahead of the curve. Now we are showing a big Reform surge. Who knows, maybe we're ahead of the curve now

If more polls come out confirming this result, expect most right-leaning voters to dump the sure losers of the "Conservative" Party and vote instead for a better party with a more realistic chance of success.

And if that does happen, then maybe American conservatives will take heart and find the courage to do likewise.

Or maybe the GOP will have the smarts and wisdom to see this outcome coming, and change directions before it's too late.

LOL, just kidding. The GOP will never, ever do that, and never, ever see an obvious disaster coming before it has already befallen them.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:00 PM

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1 Called the others.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2024 02:01 PM (O7YUW)

2 You can't fix the country if you haven't fixed at least one party.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:01 PM (cf/0E)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

4 Lincoln did not fret or weep at the death of the Whig party.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:02 PM (cf/0E)

5 You should link to the Paul Joseph Watson rant about this, Ace.

He's getting excited about it. Seems something is happening. It might be moving.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

6 LOL, just kidding. The GOP will never, ever do that, and never, ever see an obvious disaster coming before it has already befallen them.

It's suicide; the GOP are the agents of their own demise.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

7 You can't fix the country if you haven't fixed at least one party.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:01 PM (cf/0E)

Tanned, rested and high as a kite!

Posted by: Libertarian Party at June 21, 2024 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

8 4 Lincoln did not fret or weep at the death of the Whig party.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:02 PM (cf/0E)

The whigged-out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:03 PM (ynpvh)

9 Has the polling been any good in Britain for the last 8 votes? I swear the Left are always ahead. Remain was ahead. Always a bombshell when the Right wins for the 20th time in a row.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:03 PM (JdL1m)

10 But now it appears that right-leaning voters are realizing something: The "Conservatives" themselves are now a minor party. Therefore, voting for them is throwing away a vote, and they're also awful on top of that.
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Not so here. Here, the GOP is a major party - it is just also worse than useless. It's just the junior wing of the other major party. It isn't that it has lost relative scale or import, just that it has exposed itself for what it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:04 PM (C19Uv)

11 2 You can't fix the country if you haven't fixed at least one party.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:01 PM (cf/0E)

They have surgery options for fixing. I say both parties need to be neutered.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:04 PM (ynpvh)

12 The weekend is coming The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:04 PM (aYuPc)

13 The right will lose the battle, but if they destroy the fake "Conservative" Party that acts as the handmaiden of race-based Marxism, they might wind up winning the war.

Later.
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If Labour can't (or already hasn't - I don't know how Britain's deep state works) capture the government in its post-battle victory. If Reform actually works in Parliament to block them effectively (procedures, interference, etc. - normal parliamentary chicanery and whatnot) and handles the press well enough to keep some form a check, it can work out well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (C19Uv)

14 The real observation from those poll numbers is that the SNP is getting kilt.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (Xh+WD)

15 I'd love for this to happen, but I don't think it will. For the same reason the GOPe is a parasitic intestinal worm that we true Americans can't get rid of -- no matter how hard we try and no matter how optimistic polls may be -- the UK "Conservative" party is the same. I am skeptical that Reform will finish ahead of them in the actual election.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (iFTx/)

16 The weekend is coming The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:04 PM (aYuPc)

Don't come.

Posted by: Kumswala Harris at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)

17 12 The weekend is coming The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:04 PM (aYuPc)

Just got off my last zoom meeting. The weekend can be now.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (T+Iwg)

18 10 But now it appears that right-leaning voters are realizing something: The "Conservatives" themselves are now a minor party. Therefore, voting for them is throwing away a vote, and they're also awful on top of that.
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Not so here. Here, the GOP is a major party - it is just also worse than useless. It's just the junior wing of the other major party. It isn't that it has lost relative scale or import, just that it has exposed itself for what it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:04 PM (C19Uv)

https://youtu.be/RqfLOJGS_7o&t=85s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

19 @GoodwinMJ
Do read the Substack. I've been as open & transparent as poss. We were widely criticised by established pollsters months ago for showing a Tory collapse. We were ahead of the curve. Now we are showing a big Reform surge. Who knows, maybe we're ahead of the curve now.
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Pollsters riding on reputation is a bad sign. Most accuracy in polling appears to be luck rather than methodology.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (C19Uv)

20 14 The real observation from those poll numbers is that the SNP is getting kilt.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (Xh+WD)

Well, they act like a bunch of sporran.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

21 Link to the PJW video:

https://youtu.be/RpqAAPOaIgY

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)

22 "PM Farage" would be amazing and piss off all the right people.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (cf/0E)

23 Or maybe the GOP will have the smarts and wisdom to see this outcome coming, and change directions before it's too late.

LOL, just kidding. The GOP will never, ever do that, and never, ever see an obvious disaster coming before it has already befallen them.
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They've been bouncing from traitorous disaster to another like a ping pong ball in an otherwise empty clothes dryer for decades.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (C19Uv)

24 The right will lose the battle, but if they destroy the fake "Conservative" Party that acts as the handmaiden of race-based Marxism, they might wind up winning the war.

Later.
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If Labour can't (or already hasn't - I don't know how Britain's deep state works) capture the government in its post-battle victory. If Reform actually works in Parliament to block them effectively (procedures, interference, etc. - normal parliamentary chicanery and whatnot) and handles the press well enough to keep some form a check, it can work out well.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:05 PM (C19Uv)
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Lotta really big "ifs" in that formulation. If my mom had a dick she'd be my dad. But otherwise, I don't disagree.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (iFTx/)

25 The Conservatives are going the way of the Liberals in the '30s and '40s.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (3Fz6p)

26 Someone very well placed in the GOPe confided to me that the GOP will be at Whig Party status soon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (u82oZ)

27 "PM Farage" would be amazing and piss off all the right people.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

The Frenchy last name bothers me, but I guess it's no worse than "Sunak."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (v6JzV)

28 American politics:
https://youtu.be/Ll3iyvbsRDM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (C19Uv)

29 25 The Conservatives are going the way of the Liberals in the '30s and '40s.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (3Fz6p)

I certainly don't want to conserve whatever this crap we currently call Gov't is; I want to go back to the radical vision of our founders.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

30 "PM Farage" would be amazing and piss off all the right people.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (cf/0E)

I don't know how much pull the muslham population of Britain has, but they're growing in numbers quite rapidly and would do everything to prevent that from happing, I think.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

31 If only we could have that happen here.

BOTH parties need to be killed and replaced.

Since it's my side, I am most concerned about the demise of the republican party, but the Democratic party is clearly sclerotic, too.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (N1DT3)

32 Someone very well placed in the GOPe confided to me that the GOP will be at Whig Party status soon.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Good. F those Quisling Lite Dems.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (5g81t)

33 Lotta really big "ifs" in that formulation. If my mom had a dick she'd be my dad. But otherwise, I don't disagree.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (iFTx/)
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Yes there are. Time will tell. I think Britain is just as lost and primed for collapse as the rest of the West, but I am entirely open to being surprised.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (C19Uv)

34 The GOPe thinks it all went to hell for the Tories when the Queen died. Charles is such a wanker /s

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (kdLq+)

35
The percentage has only the haziest correlation with the number of seats Reform might win.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (MoZTd)

36 Why does it seem like other countries still have a legitimate voting system? Unlike our fake votes.

Posted by: Max Power at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (q177U)

37 31 If only we could have that happen here.

BOTH parties need to be killed and replaced.

Since it's my side, I am most concerned about the demise of the republican party, but the Democratic party is clearly sclerotic, too.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (N1DT3)

Kill them both, position the bodies in an erotic embrace, put guns in their hands.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

38 Why does it seem like other countries still have a legitimate voting system? Unlike our fake votes.
Posted by: Max Power at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (q177U)
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Either:
1. They do.
2. They only appear to do, because you don't live steeped in its obvious corruption every day.

I dunno.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (C19Uv)

39 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i

* points at jim's collar *

Your tags are showing.

Posted by: cheap fake mikeski at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (urw1v)

40 Lotta really big "ifs" in that formulation. If my mom had a dick she'd be my dad. But otherwise, I don't disagree.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (iFTx/)

Bob's your uncle!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)

41 34 The GOPe thinks it all went to hell for the Tories when the Queen died. Charles is such a wanker /s

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (kdLq+)

He's more of a douche or a tampon.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

42 maybe in england some pedos can form the 'churchill project'

and just seen at twixxer:

The Lincoln Project
@ProjectLincoln
A booming economy, record job growth, and promises delivered. Biden produces results, see for yourself.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (CWTWj)

43 No true Scotsman thinks Vegemite > Marmite.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (Xh+WD)

44 The Conservatives are going the way of the Liberals in the '30s and '40s.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (3Fz6p)

I certainly don't want to conserve whatever this crap we currently call Gov't is; I want to go back to the radical vision of our founders.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (ynpvh)
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I'm talking about the British political parties, but, yes, I share your sentiment.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (3Fz6p)

45 Or maybe the GOP will have the smarts and wisdom to see this outcome coming, and change directions before it's too late.

LOL, just kidding. The GOP will never, ever do that, and never, ever see an obvious disaster coming before it has already befallen them.

Yes, but...
The old guard are slowly being replaced. If we install a new crop of GOP pols who have the wit to realize which way the wind is blowing, then is it the same party?

It's not happening fast enough, but it is happening.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (xCA6C)

46 Well, they're certainly playing my tune.

And no - voting for the GOP, is not "throwing your vote away." It is much, much worse than that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (0FoWg)

47 Lotta really big "ifs" in that formulation. If my mom had a dick she'd be my dad. But otherwise, I don't disagree.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (iFTx/)

Not in the clown-world we live in now.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (N1DT3)

48 Farage has been able to get past the Tories in just a few weeks. There is about two weeks left until the election and if Labour is really down to 35 and Reform at 24 maybe Reform can catch them. In the last election the Conservatives one over a lot of Labour voters. Maybe those voters are now looking at Farage.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (xPl2J)

49 39 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i

* points at jim's collar *

Your tags are showing.

Posted by: cheap fake mikeski at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (urw1v)

Damn.
::: lifts pants over speedo tags :::

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (ynpvh)

50 What's hilarious is that for the first couple weeks, Tory leaders were demanding Farage unite with them and claiming that "a vote for Reform is a vote for Labour".

Payback sucks, huh?

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (jGGMD)

51 "In March 2009, the heir to the British throne predicted that the world had 100 months "before we risk catastrophic climate change," as pointed out by Climate Depot's Marc Morano"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (CWTWj)

52 The Frenchy last name bothers me, but I guess it's no worse than "Sunak."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (v6JzV)

"Politicians who were invented by George Lucas" is a list that would grow hugely if I started with Newt Gingrich and worked forward.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (cf/0E)

53 All the GOP would have to do is take a hard line on immigration. Thats all Trump does and people pretend he’s some Uber conservative

Posted by: Olympian at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (FN3Zf)

54 @ProjectLincoln
A booming economy, record job growth, and promises delivered. Biden produces results, see for yourself.

Oh, I'm seeing. Rising homeless population. New home sales declining. Everyday groceries are more expensive than ever. High fuel prices. High unemployment for AMERICANS.

Booming, alright. Assholes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

55 as it was explained to me:

the SNP mostly makes the greens look moderate, and also exists because fnck Thatcher.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (D7oie)

56 Kill them both, position the bodies in an erotic embrace, put guns in their hands.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM

* scribbles furiously *

Posted by: R. Khan Side at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (Xh+WD)

57 Lotta really big "ifs" in that formulation. If my mom had a dick she'd be my dad. But otherwise, I don't disagree.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:07 PM (iFTx/)
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Yes there are. Time will tell. I think Britain is just as lost and primed for collapse as the rest of the West, but I am entirely open to being surprised.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (C19Uv)
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Demographics is destiny. And those demographics are murdering the West before our very eyes, with the open and active participation of the West's elites and leaders. I see no chance to reverse that.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (iFTx/)

58 He's more of a douche or a tampon.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

Portrait says tampon. Used.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

59 56 Kill them both, position the bodies in an erotic embrace, put guns in their hands.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM

* scribbles furiously *

Posted by: R. Khan Side at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (Xh+WD)

LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:13 PM (ynpvh)

60 Kill them both, position the bodies in an erotic embrace, put guns in their hands.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

*walks in*

*observes scene*

*walks out*

I'm not taking that case.

Posted by: Lieutenant Columbo at June 21, 2024 02:13 PM (OguvZ)

61 Posted by: gnats local 678

We've had this gnat flying around in our living room for a few days. Tried to squish him several times, but he always gets away.

Can your organization please order him to leave already?

Thank you.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:13 PM (v6JzV)

62 "In March 2009, the heir to the British throne predicted that the world had 100 months "before we risk catastrophic climate change," as pointed out by Climate Depot's Marc Morano"
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (CWTWj)

dude, believe your eyes and don't be a refusnik. Go. Outside. It is really muggy right now. PROOF! These are facts!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2024 02:13 PM (D7oie)

63 My firm People Polling

Is this, how you say, a pride month thing? There should be only one person doing the "firm poling."

Posted by: Paolo at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (urw1v)

64 The old guard are slowly being replaced. If we install a new crop of GOP pols who have the wit to realize which way the wind is blowing, then is it the same party?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM

Ahem.

Posted by: zombie Tea Party at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (Xh+WD)

65 He's more of a douche or a tampon.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)[/s[/i at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

Yes that's it, he's like a bipedal tampon.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (JdL1m)

66 @ProjectLincoln
A booming economy, record job growth, and promises delivered. Biden produces results, see for yourself.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (CWTWj)
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The "booming economy" is barely growing and is actually in recession if you subtract deficit spending from it (e.g., the portion of GDP put on the FedGov's credit card). The "record job growth" isn't once the "restatements" come in like clockwork, and much of the limited job growth is coming from employing illegal aliens at the expense of actual Americans. The promises delivered include a wasteful, useless, unproductive and deficit-financed "inflation reduction act" and a wasteful, unproductive, deficit-financed "CHIPS act" and a wasteful, unproductive, deficit-financed "bipartisan infrastructure act." Beyond those failures (though promised failures, so there's that), the administration has lurched from failure to failure domestically and internationally in an unending stumble akin, ironically, to Biden's own unstable gait.

Suck it, Lincoln Project.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (C19Uv)

67
The GOP is like the post-Vatican II Church. The lib squishes are older and dying and the Trads are younger and growing. The amount of rage that the lib establishment has for the upstarts has to be seen to be believed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (MoZTd)

68 54 @ProjectLincoln
A booming economy, record job growth, and promises delivered. Biden produces results, see for yourself.

Oh, I'm seeing. Rising homeless population. New home sales declining. Everyday groceries are more expensive than ever. High fuel prices. High unemployment for AMERICANS.

Booming, alright. Assholes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

Booming like a Hamass munitions dump at a hospital.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (ynpvh)

69 so if I have it right, in the UK, 'conservative' is like our 'RINO", and their 'reform' is our 'MAGA'

Yes?

Posted by: Don Black- reporting from London at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (/7KEl)

70 Booming, alright. Assholes.
Posted by: Sponge

Are talking about Biden, Nadler, or Swawell?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:15 PM (v6JzV)

71
Suck it, Lincoln Project.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (C19Uv)

They should simply GASLIGHT HARDER........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

72 The real observation from those poll numbers is that the SNP is getting kilt.
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Put your hand up there again, lassie, and it'll grew some more.

Posted by: just the punchline at June 21, 2024 02:15 PM (ZdexC)

73
MESA

Make England Splendid Again

Posted by: Don Black- reporting from London at June 21, 2024 02:15 PM (/7KEl)

74 as tweety bird said in his first cartoon: "he faw down go boom!"

early tweety was quite violent

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:15 PM (CWTWj)

75 Farage has been able to get past the Tories in just a few weeks. There is about two weeks left until the election and if Labour is really down to 35 and Reform at 24 maybe Reform can catch them. In the last election the Conservatives one over a lot of Labour voters. Maybe those voters are now looking at Farage.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2024 02:11 PM (xPl2J)

I'm not that sanguine. Reform is too new organizationally, and the election is too short, for the party to fully replace the Tories this cycle.

The top prediction I've seen in terms of seats is twelve, though I would not be surprised if it goes higher. Either way, the goal for now appears to be "replace the Conservatives as the true opposition party in the future Labour-majority Parliament."

And Reform's well on its way to pulling that off.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (jGGMD)

76 The promises delivered include a wasteful, useless, unproductive and deficit-financed "inflation reduction act" and a wasteful, unproductive, deficit-financed "CHIPS act" and a wasteful, unproductive, deficit-financed "bipartisan infrastructure act."
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You left out destruction of domestic oil production.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (3Fz6p)

77 I know the Brits voted for Brexit twice, but I believe the Conservatives never enacted it. Or did they?

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (f1kZG)

78 Suck it, Lincoln Project.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (C19Uv)

Only if you're a ten-year-old.

Posted by: Lincoln Project at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (xPl2J)

79 We've had this gnat flying around in our living room for a few days. Tried to squish him several times, but he always gets away.
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Mrs Ellipsis whips them out of the air with a towel. It's pretty hot.

Years of practice in unisex swimming locker rooms.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (JdL1m)

80 so if I have it right, in the UK, 'conservative' is like our 'RINO", and their 'reform' is our 'MAGA'

Yes?
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We called our failed Progressive Conservative party "red Tories" although I don't think that's used in the UK.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 21, 2024 02:17 PM (ZdexC)

81 What is our "Reform" party ?

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2024 02:17 PM (9pFgx)

82 Farage wants to revoke the BBC fee, and now they will hold a debate with 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th place parties. If he is smart he will go on some talk show and get better ratings because he is more interesting.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:17 PM (cf/0E)

83 Symbolic of collapse of the Conservative Party is the collapse of the "Economist" magazine, which used to be a great magazine, and now is at best a newsletter for the WEF.

But now, they have apparently started to take hallucinogens:

The exponential growth of solar power will change the world

An energy-rich future is within reach
Within 10 years, solar cells will be the single biggest source of electrical power on the planet, with the cost of electricity about half of today’s current rates.

Does anyone - anyone - seriously believe this?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (uxCna)

84 MESA

Make England Splendid Again
Posted by: Don Black- reporting from London at June 21, 2024 02:15 PM (/7KEl)
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Well, the country is not just England. It would have to be
MTUKOGBANISA.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (3Fz6p)

85 re 61: get his membership card number and we'll get right on it.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (CWTWj)

86 You left out destruction of domestic oil production.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (3Fz6p)
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Ah, fair enough. Big promise kept.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (C19Uv)

87 The GOP has the smell of vulture shit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (aFNOf)

88 >>>The real observation from those poll numbers is that the SNP is getting kilt.

Hm, maybe the Scots have figured out that the SNP is a lackey of Brussels globalists, and not actually a nationalist/independence party in any meaningful sense of the word.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (jGGMD)

89 Bulgaroctonus

Yes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (u82oZ)

90 Which side does House Baratheon support?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (cf/0E)

91
SEFFA

Stop England From Faggotry Again

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (JdL1m)

92 87 The GOP has the smell of vulture shit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (aFNOf)

Well, they are the catchers in their bromance with the Dems...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

93 Oh, don't forget, in the dem debates, Biden promised a surge at the border.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

94 MESA

The party of Jar Jar Binks?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (xCA6C)

95 ProjectLincoln
A booming economy, record job growth, and promises delivered. Biden produces results, see for yourself.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (CWTWj)
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Suck it, Lincoln Project.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (C19Uv)
________

"You're a male, so that sounds promising. But how old are you? My anaconda don't want none unless you way young, hun."

-- John Weaver

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

96
Stop England From Faggotry Again
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (JdL1m)

They're Brits. Unpossible.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

97 re 83: yes. they didn't say what kind of change, did they?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (CWTWj)

98 93 Oh, don't forget, in the dem debates, Biden promised a surge at the border.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

of illegals?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

99 ... The exponential growth of solar power will change the world
An energy-rich future is within reach ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (uxCna)
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Uhhh, who wants to tell them that we live in an energy-rich *present* and that the standard of living enjoyed by everyone the world over regardless of level of absolute or relative wealth is due to an energy-rich past, and that energy richness is actual richness - and that green energy is so low-density that it can never be rich?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (C19Uv)

100 The purpose of the GOP is to prevent any type of reform from ever happening.

It is the only role they play. It is the only reason they are a political party.

Attempting to reform it is like saying "we really need to replace this buggy whip with a gas pedal - that will make the horse go much faster."

Shoot the horse and buy a car.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (0FoWg)

101 94 MESA

The party of Jar Jar Binks?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (xCA6C)

Naw, that'd be MEESA.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

102 "You're a male, so that sounds promising. But how old are you? My anaconda don't want none unless you way young, hun."

-- John Weaver
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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Damn, son.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (C19Uv)

103 I think here, in the US, both the left and right stand a pretty good chance of being co-opted by any number of outside groups; Central/South American illegals with political aspirations, Middle Easterners with similar ideas, Africans, etc. We're flooding the country with them.

Not all are going on the dole, not all are going to leave either. Many have the idea that here, they can run for office and force changes they (and their constituents) want. Some places are already doing that.

We'll follow Europe's path, but be behind by at least a decade.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (Q4IgG)

104
Scotland, like Quebec, will never secede. As an economic basket case, they'll just use the threat to wring more moolah from the Sassenachs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (MoZTd)

105 He's more of a douche or a tampon.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Yes that's it, he's like a bipedal tampon.
Posted by: ...

White, uptight & outta sight!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (5g81t)

106 96
Stop England From Faggotry Again
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (JdL1m)

They're Brits. Unpossible.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

They truly love their faggots.
https://youtu.be/gt8IAJZTc-w

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:21 PM (ynpvh)

107 They have surgery options for fixing. I say both parties need to be neutered.
_____

Adhering to the Constitution is the best way to neuter them.

Too bad we don't try that option.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 21, 2024 02:21 PM (fs1hN)

108 I know the Brits voted for Brexit twice, but I believe the Conservatives never enacted it. Or did they?
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 21, 2024 02:16 PM (f1kZG)

England, Scotland and Wales got a partial (but not full) Brexit, and are now bombarded with daily media stories on how it's been a disaster, because reasons.

Northern Ireland didn't get Brexit at all. Don't ask me how that works.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:21 PM (jGGMD)

109 make britain sort of important again

mbsoia

sounds like the kind of graduate degree dr jill would have

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:21 PM (CWTWj)

110 Breaking: Justice Roberts gives Biden three days to respond to Bannon's emergency appeal.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 21, 2024 02:21 PM (aFNOf)

111 "Why does it seem like other countries still have a legitimate voting system? Unlike our fake votes."

Rumor is CIA has used the same system in other countries, to overturn elections. But some of them don't have the mail-ins, or the drop boxes, or outsiders collecting unverified ballots.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2024 02:22 PM (Cus5s)

112
of illegals?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

Yep.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

113 think here, in the US, both the left and right stand a pretty good chance of being co-opted by any number of outside groups; Central/South American illegals with political aspirations, Middle Easterners with similar ideas, Africans, etc. We're flooding the country with them.

Not all are going on the dole, not all are going to leave either. Many have the idea that here, they can run for office and force changes they (and their constituents) want. Some places are already doing that.

We'll follow Europe's path, but be behind by at least a decade.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (Q4IgG)
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Yep. And the Left thinks they will still be in charge when that happens. Too bad we won't be around to see their *shocked* face when their "allies" betray them in favor of their own interests.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 02:22 PM (7fElN)

114 I know the Brits voted for Brexit twice, but I believe the Conservatives never enacted it. Or did they?

They did.

Upper-class Brits now whine that they have to stand in the passport line with the filthy Americans and Canadians when they visit the EU, instead of just flashing their passports without stopping, like EU passport holders can.

Submitting to the dictates of the unelected EU bureaucratic dictatorship is obviously well-worth spending less time at passport control.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (uxCna)

115 I would think British polls are even more useless than American polls.

You elect your local parliament members. If you are "polling" at 25% nationally, isn't it still possible you'll have enough seats in the parliament, that you effectively control it? Even if you have to form a coalition government?

Or you just wait for some bint to toss you a sword from the bottom of a lake.

What a fruity country they are.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (dGCAG)

116 We'll follow Europe's path, but be behind by at least a decade.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

I'll be lucky to have two decades left.
Trust and believe, I'm looking at lifetime warranties a whole lot differently.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (5g81t)

117 Scotland, like Quebec, will never secede. As an economic basket case, they'll just use the threat to wring more moolah from the Sassenachs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (MoZTd)
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I read that some enormous percentage of Scots, like on the order of 85%, receives some kind of gubmint handout. Can anyone confirm?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (3Fz6p)

118 115 I would think British polls are even more useless than American polls.

You elect your local parliament members. If you are "polling" at 25% nationally, isn't it still possible you'll have enough seats in the parliament, that you effectively control it? Even if you have to form a coalition government?

Or you just wait for some bint to toss you a sword from the bottom of a lake.

What a fruity country they are.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (dGCAG)

She has to be a watery tart, as I recall.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (ynpvh)

119 john cleese was on the tonight show one time like 30 years ago and the matter of british vs american english came up. cleese mentioned that he had a friend who got in an elevator at the nbc building (whatever it's called now i forget) and his friend asked the elevator operator "mind if i have a fag?"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (CWTWj)

120 Trust and believe, I'm looking at lifetime warranties a whole lot differently.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (5g81t)
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"Lifetime guarantee?" Who's lifetime? Not mine. I haven't that much time left. Let's make it *yours.*

Posted by: William Shatner at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (C19Uv)

121 Why does it seem like other countries still have a legitimate voting system? Unlike our fake votes.
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Having multiple parties helps. They want to see that every vote for their [smaller] party counts because winning an election in a riding gets you a seat in the House of Commons that can have an out of proportion influence if the Party that wins the election doesn't have a majority of the seats.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (ZdexC)

122 30 "PM Farage" would be amazing and piss off all the right people.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:06 PM (cf/0E)

I don't know how much pull the muslham population of Britain has, but they're growing in numbers quite rapidly and would do everything to prevent that from happing, I think.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

All is proceeding as Tony Blair arranged it 30 years ago.

Posted by: That guy who's always saying 'you know the rules'. at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (nHZzb)

123 On the sidebar, the pitch meeting about the Temple of Doom:

Mythbusters did an episode on the "magical liferaft" and discovered to their shock that it could actually work.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (N1DT3)

124 Uhhh, who wants to tell them that we live in an energy-rich *present* and that the standard of living enjoyed by everyone the world over regardless of level of absolute or relative wealth is due to an energy-rich past, and that energy richness is actual richness - and that green energy is so low-density that it can never be rich?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:20 PM (C19Uv)
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If we were allowed to exploit nuclear power like we could and should, we'd be giving energy away like candy. But we don't live in a serious world.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 02:25 PM (7fElN)

125 john cleese was on the tonight show one time like 30 years ago and the matter of british vs american english came up. cleese mentioned that he had a friend who got in an elevator at the nbc building (whatever it's called now i forget) and his friend asked the elevator operator "mind if i have a fag?"
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (CWTWj)
++++
I have an English friend who described the difference between the two as, "In Britain, 100 miles is a long way. In America, 100 years is a long time."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:25 PM (C19Uv)

126 john cleese was on the tonight show one time like 30 years ago and the matter of british vs american english came up. cleese mentioned that he had a friend who got in an elevator at the nbc building (whatever it's called now i forget) and his friend asked the elevator operator "mind if i have a fag?"
Posted by: gnats local 678

My wife brought home a bag of chips from Wegman's today that was labeled "potato crisps." A sure sign the Apocalypse is nigh.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:25 PM (v6JzV)

127 On the sidebar, the pitch meeting about the Temple of Doom:

Mythbusters did an episode on the "magical liferaft" and discovered to their shock that it could actually work.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (N1DT3)
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Poor Buster...last seen surfing down the Himalayas in a life raft after falling 3000 feet out of a plane.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2024 02:26 PM (7fElN)

128 126 john cleese was on the tonight show one time like 30 years ago and the matter of british vs american english came up. cleese mentioned that he had a friend who got in an elevator at the nbc building (whatever it's called now i forget) and his friend asked the elevator operator "mind if i have a fag?"
Posted by: gnats local 678

My wife brought home a bag of chips from Wegman's today that was labeled "potato crisps." A sure sign the Apocalypse is nigh.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:25 PM (v6JzV)

Neigh.

Posted by: Horses of the Apocalypse at June 21, 2024 02:26 PM (ynpvh)

129 @TageSundin:As things stand, the Tories should now withdraw their candidates from several constituencies. If they don't, it will only benefit Labour!

@poontapp3r: Sorry (Farage) but your medievil stance on cannabis is holding you back from full potential. Please reconsider otherwise you'll find a lot of young people voting for Green party again.

@EmpowerdConsumr:The inflection point is a crucial factor in encouraging people to support candidates from @reformparty_uk. Many people doubt that their vote can make a difference. By expanding beyond the Conservatives, it offers hope and draws individuals from other parties to join in.

@EdSolomon: The Conservatives are no longer conservative and have not been since Cameron swung the party decisively to the left and embraced technocracy to become Blair 2.0. We don’t want pretend conservatism, we want real conservatism, not wokeness, not insanely high immigration and taxes.

Funny cartoon on Lefty capitulation to Jihadists: https://tinyurl.com/ys4mbfp9

Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (JCZqz)

130 and that green energy is so low-density that it can never be rich?

I gave up on the Economist a few years ago when it stated that wind and solar power were cheaper than coal and natural gas. That "fact" was so self-evident that it didn't require any actual analysis.

So, we can install square miles of solar farms in the central United States, which will be functional until the next hailstorm comes through.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (uxCna)

131 ... The exponential growth of solar power will change the world
An energy-rich future is within reach ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (uxCna)
++++
Uhhh, who wants to tell them that we live in an energy-rich *present* and that the standard of living enjoyed by everyone the world over regardless of level of absolute or relative wealth is due to an energy-rich past, and that energy richness is actual richness - and that green energy is so low-density that it can never be rich?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
====
If post 9-11 we dumped money into building a shitload of nuke plants instead of raining our wealth on every shithole in the world we would probably have cheap enough and abundant enough electricty to make electric vehicles viable.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (cOq4q)

132 I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (Aoykm)

133 > Trust and believe, I'm looking at lifetime warranties a whole lot differently.
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No doubt. Me too. Last thing I want to happen is to suddenly croak with a full tank of gas in the truck.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (Q4IgG)

134 Let's be honest - the Tories have been led for years by effeminate, rich prep schoolers (Think Lindsay Graham, but with a weirder accent). Over time, that group's priorities grew further and further from their voters. Where they once looked at us as noble savages in need of saving, they now view as as gross "breeders," consumed by religion and women, and an embarrassment to good old Eton or Cheltenham.
We have nothing in common anymore and even if we did, they'd change their position just to avoid being seen with us. So sayonara, homos!

Posted by: Lesbian Space Witches at June 21, 2024 02:28 PM (hqVaF)

135 >>>Scotland, like Quebec, will never secede. As an economic basket case, they'll just use the threat to wring more moolah from the Sassenachs.

Or Greece and the EU. Or southern Italy and Italy. Or Catalonia and Spain. Being socialist is only sustainable when daddy pays your bills.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 21, 2024 02:28 PM (CwhoI)

136 And yet, almost half the country will vote for him.

an Associated Press/University of Chicago poll shows that two thirds of Americans believe Joe Biden did something illegal or unethical.

https://tinyurl.com/2zuxpv66

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:28 PM (xCA6C)

137 Or you just wait for some bint to toss you a sword from the bottom of a lake.

What a fruity country they are.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 21, 2024 02:23 PM (dGCAG)

Dennis the peasant had it wrong; that's a way better political system than what we've got.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:28 PM (jGGMD)

138 LOL, just kidding. The GOP will never, ever do that, and never, ever see an obvious disaster coming before it has already befallen them.
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Sure it has an unparalleled track record of failing every time and every where it's tried but .... "if we don't nominate a moderate/liberal we will lose the suburban women vote!"

I mean, you could poll every member of Congress on "why did conservative voters want McCarthy removed as Speaker."
You'll get the 8 that voted for that with mostly correct.

But all the rest will have a variation on "cause doo-doo head Trump told them too."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 02:29 PM (sklOS)

139 At a meeting between Brits and Americans, a speaker introduced himself as a graduate of University of Alabama. Every American immediately murmured, "Roll Tide." The Brits were baffled.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2024 02:29 PM (4GhzG)

140 If post 9-11 we dumped money into building a shitload of nuke plants instead of raining our wealth on every shithole in the world we would probably have cheap enough and abundant enough electricty to make electric vehicles viable.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (cOq4q)
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FWOWF!

Posted by: A Burning Tesla at June 21, 2024 02:29 PM (3Fz6p)

141 132 I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (Aoykm)

Songs for the mood:
"Disco Inferno"
"Eternal Flame"
"Girl on Fire"
"We Didn't Start the Fire"
"Fire and Rain"
"Burning Down the House"
"Set Fire to the Rain"
"Great Balls of Fire"
...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

142 High-Profile Republicans Set To Appear Alongside Left-Wing Activists At Dark Money-Backed Media Festival

Republicans attending include Texas Reps. Dan Crenshaw, Tony Gonzales, and Michael McCaul, former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, political consultant Karl Rove, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.

Posted by: h at June 21, 2024 02:30 PM (aFNOf)

143 Posted by: Wenda

Wenda, you mentioned the other day that you had a medical appointment regarding your hemochromatosis. That's a condition that I also have.

How did the appointment go?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:30 PM (v6JzV)

144 Breaking: Justice Roberts gives Biden three days to respond to Bannon's emergency appeal.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Too bad Biden can use lawyers and not respond personally.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:31 PM (cOq4q)

145 Mass shooting outside of a grocery store in Fordyce, Arkansas.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:31 PM (v6JzV)

146
An energy-rich future is within reach
Within 10 years, solar cells will be the single biggest source of electrical power on the planet, with the cost of electricity about half of today’s current rates.

Some said that about nuclear power back in the 1950s.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (63Dwl)

147 I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (Aoykm)

Good. Keep the recordings, and if that happens, declare martial law and treat them all as enemy combatants. Anyone who gives up peacefully gets a one-way ticket to French Guiana; the rest, a date with Madame La Guillotine.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (jGGMD)

148 144 Breaking: Justice Roberts gives Biden three days to respond to Bannon's emergency appeal.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Too bad Biden can use lawyers and not respond personally.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:31 PM (cOq4q)

"I...uh, uh,..you...Trunalimunumaprzure"--Joey

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (ynpvh)

149 @144 Bannon poopy , er my word as a Biden. No joke

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (kdLq+)

150 Let's be honest - the Tories have been led for years by effeminate, rich prep schoolers

The Tories believe all the global warming crap, have done nothing about mass immigration, and have done nothing as the cops (which the central government controls) prosecute people for mean tweets, while allowing pro-Hamas mobs the run of London, and letting public order collapse.

Can't imagine why they're losing.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (uxCna)

151 But all the rest will have a variation on "cause doo-doo head Trump told them too."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 02:29 PM (sklOS)

Except Trump and McCarthy teamed up to endorse the guy who beat the incumbent leader of the Freedom Caucus who voted to remove McCarthy.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (SHMXB)

152 Trump is now saying any immigrant with a college degree gets an automatic green card.

Here we go again

Posted by: Olympian at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (FN3Zf)

153 energy is like money: leftists will always think you have too much

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (CWTWj)

154 Some said that about nuclear power back in the 1950s.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (63Dwl)

It should have, but no one could have foreseen the absolute INSANITY that sprung up around nuclear power.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (iSfV4)

155 I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (Aoykm)

"WE COME IN PEACE!"

*shoot to kill shoot to kill shoot to kill*

"WE COME IN PEACE!"

*shoot to kill, men!*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)

156 Those guys are "high profile" in the same way the Buffalo Bills are a high profile NFL franchise. Yes, we're familiar with your work. Not impressed with it, but familiar with it.

Posted by: Lesbian Space Witches at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (hqVaF)

157 Republicans attending include Texas Reps. Dan Crenshaw, Tony Gonzales, and Michael McCaul, former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, political consultant Karl Rove, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.
Posted by: h

Rick Perry? He joined that loser uniparty crowd?

I am disappoint.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:34 PM (v6JzV)

158 Some said that about nuclear power back in the 1950s.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (63Dwl)

And it would have been if it wasn’t for the watermelons.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2024 02:34 PM (SHMXB)

159 It should have, but no one could have foreseen the absolute INSANITY that sprung up around nuclear power.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (iSfV4)
------------
A lot of it funded by the USSR.

Posted by: A Burning Tesla at June 21, 2024 02:34 PM (3Fz6p)

160 High-Profile Republicans Set To Appear Alongside Left-Wing Activists At Dark Money-Backed Media Festival

Republicans attending include Texas Reps. Dan Crenshaw, Tony Gonzales, and Michael McCaul, former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, political consultant Karl Rove, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.
Posted by: h

The spice must flow!
The 100 or so top money people that are ostensibly "Republicans" and the top 100 or so money people that are "Democrats" have more in common with each other than they do with us.

Posted by: M'uad Dib at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (vcOmj)

161 >All is proceeding as Tony Blair arranged it 30 years ago.
Posted by: That guy who's always saying 'you know the rules'. at June 21, 2024 02:24 PM (nHZzb)

Academic Agent (Sargon's circle of peers) continuously compares Blair to Palpatine.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (cf/0E)

162 An energy-rich future is within reach
Within 10 years, solar cells will be the single biggest source of electrical power on the planet, with the cost of electricity about half of today’s current rates.

A common fallacy is that solar cells are "tech", like computer chips, and that solar cells therefore follow Moore's Law, and get exponentially better over time.

Hint: that's not true.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (uxCna)

163 One of the Pythons went to school in the US at some point and he asked the teacher if she had a rubber as he'd forgotten his.

BTW, we used 'rubber' for 'eraser' in my grade school days too although 'eraser' was also used.

I don't know what kids say today though.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (ZdexC)

164 Republicans attending include Texas Reps. Dan Crenshaw, Tony Gonzales, and Michael McCaul, former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, political consultant Karl Rove, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.

And not a real Republican among them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

165 The swaggering cocks in the UK are entirely like Hunter Biden. We've seen his genitals. I'll rub some crack cocaine on my balls and we'll see who performs.

Bitches. You can't live without them because you love them.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 21, 2024 02:36 PM (dmXQN)

166 BTW, we used 'rubber' for 'eraser' in my grade school days too although 'eraser' was also used.

I don't know what kids say today though.
Posted by: andycanuck

"Pink thing that make words go away."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:36 PM (v6JzV)

167 Songs for the mood:
"Disco Inferno"
.....
"Great Balls of Fire"
Posted by: jim

Let's broaden our terms here for some variety:

Fire Burning - Sean Kingston
Zoot Suit Riot - Cherry Popping Daddies
It's The End Of The World As We Know It - R.E.M.
Sympathy for the Devil - Rolling Stones
Probably most of Rage Against The Machine's catalog

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 21, 2024 02:36 PM (JCZqz)

168 And not a real Republican among them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)
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Weeell, given what the Republican establishment has become...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (3Fz6p)

169 > I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.
---------
We've got a dozen different demographics here that say that very thing every week.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (Q4IgG)

170 with the cost of electricity about half of today’s current rates.

The enviros have claimed for years that renewables would be "cheaper" than oil, gas, and nuclear.

If that were true, California would have the cheapest electric rates in the country.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (uxCna)

171 Mass shooting outside of a grocery store in Fordyce, Arkansas.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:31 PM (v6JzV)

A. Op Stooge
B. Personal Mental Case
C. Lefty Commie Fag
4. iSlime
5. Tranny

Get your guesses in now!!

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (JdL1m)

172 And not a real Republican among them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

I regret to inform you that they are the real Republicans.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (iSfV4)

173 Does anyone - anyone - seriously believe this?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2024 02:18 PM (uxCna)
A LOT of people do.

They believe rainbows and butterflies will power everything.

They don't have the ability to understand supply issues, secondary environmental pollution and destruction, scarcity of minerals or anything of the like.

SCIENCE IS GOD! SCIENCE WILL SAVE US FROM GLOBULAR WARMING!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (N1DT3)

174 >>>Too bad Biden can use lawyers and not respond personally.

*Shuffles in*
*Mutters*
*Drops a deuce*
*Shuffles out*

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (CwhoI)

175 Trump is now saying any immigrant with a college degree gets an automatic green card.

Here we go again

Link?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (xCA6C)

176 Trump is now saying any immigrant with a college degree gets an automatic green card.

Here we go again
Posted by: Olympian

Well, that's what SHE said!

And really, honestly, do any of us really expect Trump to actually fix anything? He will, once again, be held hostage to the permanent government, ie, the Deep State.

Posted by: Michael Scott! at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (vcOmj)

177 152 Trump is now saying any immigrant with a college degree gets an automatic green card.

Here we go again.

Spool up the sheep skin mills. Stat.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (aFNOf)

178 Bulg, thanks for asking. It went well and also scary. I haven't quite come to terms with it.

For those unfamiliar with the term, hemochromatosis means iron settles in soft tissue (liver, pancreas, etc). High enough saturation and that particular organ ceases to function.

I learned that my saturation status is 37 percent. That sounds high, right? Except I also learned for the first time that my original saturation status was 58 percent. How was I still functioning?

So, scary. I know I was low-energy, but I assumed grief from my husband's death. If I hadn't had a good doc, I wouldn't be typing this. I haven't come to terms with that yet.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (4GhzG)

179 And yet, almost half the country will vote for him.

an Associated Press/University of Chicago poll shows that two thirds of Americans believe Joe Biden did something illegal or unethical.

https://tinyurl.com/2zuxpv66
Posted by: Archimedes

And half of those will vote for him for just that reason.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (cOq4q)

180 Anyone who gives up peacefully gets a one-way ticket to French Guiana
____

WTF?

Posted by: French Guiana at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (fs1hN)

181 Tony Blair, like Jimmy Savile, will be buried in an unmarked grave.

Posted by: bill o'reilly at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (rJ48h)

182 Dan Fucking Crenshaw. What a total tool and Paul Ryan junior. Remember those stupid Super Hero commercials a few years back? I think he really believes that.

Do better Texas. Do Better.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (Aoykm)

183 I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.

==

that is soo 2006....

Posted by: runner at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (9pFgx)

184 Get your guesses in now!!
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (JdL1m)

It’ll be B, C, and 5

(You really messed up your numbered list)

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (iSfV4)

185 from abc news a couple of hours ago:

Former President Donald Trump's campaign on Friday clarified his immigration proposal to give green cards to all noncitizen college students who graduate from American universities, arguing there would be an "aggressive vetting process."

"He believes, only after such vetting has taken place, we ought to keep the most skilled graduates who can make significant contributions to America," Karoline Leavitt, national press secretary for the Trump campaign, said in a statement to ABC News on Friday. "This would only apply to the most thoroughly vetted college graduates who would never undercut American wages or workers."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:39 PM (CWTWj)

186 What is Biden (his lawyers) supposed to respond to? Or are they just to make some statement?

I'd guess Bannon says "hey, Garland (and others) walk, this is just election interference, going after the Trump team."

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2024 02:39 PM (Cus5s)

187 171 Mass shooting outside of a grocery store in Fordyce, Arkansas.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:31 PM (v6JzV)

A. Op Stooge
B. Personal Mental Case
C. Lefty Commie Fag
4. iSlime
5. Tranny

Get your guesses in now!!
Posted by: ...

I select op stooge with a MAGA tat for effect.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (aFNOf)

188 It's a tranny.

Posted by: Just a guess at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (dg+HA)

189 A. Op Stooge
B. Personal Mental Case
C. Lefty Commie Fag
4. iSlime
5. Tranny

Get your guesses in now!!

Rabid Trump Supporter!!!

Posted by: The Media! at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (uxCna)

190 https://tinyurl.com/y67rs3af

Trump responded: "What I want to do and what I will do is you graduate from a college. I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma a green card to be able to stay in this country, and that includes junior colleges."

Posted by: Olympian at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (FN3Zf)

191 The Weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (fwDg9)

192 This NYT headline is soooo hotttt

"Much of Rafah Lies in Ruins as Israeli Forces Push Deeper Into the City"

https://tinyurl.com/yk5x9vem

Posted by: Oglebay at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (ogTiX)

193 Someone very well placed in the GOPe confided to me that the GOP will be at Whig Party status soon.
---
I don't doubt for a second that they really believe this.

They are completely unable to conceive of the party as Trump is building it: multiracial, middle-class, America first.

To them, it's always been "the lower tax party for Democrats." That they are the last line holding the party in power.
They are the indispensable men.

So the Trump GOP is their death.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 02:40 PM (sklOS)

194 The GOP is already in the process of being taken over - they can move with it or be voted out. Or if they are safe, watch their GOPe brethren voted out and their own important committee assignments shrink and their opportunity for graft disappear.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2024 02:41 PM (GZYu7)

195 So, scary. I know I was low-energy, but I assumed grief from my husband's death. If I hadn't had a good doc, I wouldn't be typing this. I haven't come to terms with that yet.
Posted by: Wenda

Prayer up, Wenda.

My doc has me going into donate blood twice a month to get rid of the excess iron. Except, they have to discard my blood due to hepatitis antibodies in it.

At least I get to eat all the chips and cookies I want after I donate.

Be of good cheer, Ma'am.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:41 PM (v6JzV)

196 182 Dan Fucking Crenshaw. What a total tool and Paul Ryan junior. Remember those stupid Super Hero commercials a few years back? I think he really believes that.

Do better Texas. Do Better.
Posted by: Jak Sucio

See this middle finger?

Posted by: John Cornyn at June 21, 2024 02:41 PM (aFNOf)

197 Songs for the mood:
"Disco Inferno"
"Eternal Flame"
"Girl on Fire"
"We Didn't Start the Fire"
"Fire and Rain"
"Burning Down the House"
"Set Fire to the Rain"
"Great Balls of Fire"
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

"Cities on Fire" - BOC

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:41 PM (cOq4q)

198 England has a Muslim problem

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:41 PM (fwDg9)

199 Somebody on Trump's staff didn't think the green card/college degree thing through. You'll end up Jajapal/AOC idiots with Marxist lesbian underwater basket weaving gender study degrees. Maybe I can understand STEM degrees but it doesn't say that from what I saw

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2024 02:42 PM (kdLq+)

200 Push deeper into? I like the sound of that?

Posted by: Pete BootyGig at June 21, 2024 02:42 PM (dg+HA)

201 198 England has a Muslim problem
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:41 PM (fwDg9)

“Cultural Enrichment is not a problem!”

~ Your Betters

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2024 02:42 PM (iSfV4)

202 Supreme Court blows. Why don't they just dump all their rulings today and go home? Instead they're dribbling them out. Plus it looks like they left a loophole for Dems to tax unrealized asset growth. If true, they are idiots.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (fs1hN)

203 Good. Keep the recordings, and if that happens, declare martial law and treat them all as enemy combatants. Anyone who gives up peacefully gets a one-way ticket to ~~French Guiana~~ Algeria; the rest, a date with Madame La Guillotine.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2024 02:32 PM (jGGMD)

Keep that crap out of the Western Hemisphere, please.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (N1DT3)

204 So, what happened to Rick Perry?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (v6JzV)

205 199

Exactly

Imagine the diploma mills to get a green card

But Trump is super smart, remember

Posted by: Olympian at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (FN3Zf)

206 i think the repubs since the time of fdr have generally believed that we will always be moving to the left, it's inevitable, no point in fighting it, just try to hang on for some of the power and tax dollar pie.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (CWTWj)

207 When it comes to the number of turncoat politicians, even then everything's bigger in Texas.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (cf/0E)

208 "Wildfire"

Posted by: Michael Murphey at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (dg+HA)

209 (You really messed up your numbered list)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2024 02:38 PM (iSfV4)

Did I though?

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (JdL1m)

210 Weeell, given what the Republican establishment has become...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:37 PM (3Fz6p)

Your point is incredibly valid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)

211 hey, the whigs gave us millard fillmore!

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:44 PM (CWTWj)

212 Obama said marriage was only between a man and a woman. Let's wait and see before we diarrhea ourselves again.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:44 PM (JdL1m)

213 "The Motor City is Burning"

Posted by: zombie john lee hooker at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (rJ48h)

214 Cornyn is another pos. He won't run again, now that his true self emerged. At least I got to primary his ass last time.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (Aoykm)

215 Except Trump and McCarthy teamed up to endorse the guy who beat the incumbent leader of the Freedom Caucus who voted to remove McCarthy.
---
Exactly my point.
Most of the idiots in Congress have no idea what conservatives want and just default to whatever the NYT and WaPo say they day.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (sklOS)

216 204 So, what happened to Rick Perry?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Shot his dick off while jogging?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (aFNOf)

217 So, what happened to Rick Perry?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:43 PM (v6JzV)

Well, it started with his selling out of the Texas energy industry to the Owebama administration and started dismantling all the coal fire plants in the state.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)

218 It is a shame that the UK will have to go back into the EU because of the malfeasance of the tories, but that is the goal of labor, and the tories fought Brexit like their pocketbooks depended upon it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (lTGtQ)

219 What do you want from me, a Wilkie button?

Posted by: Home Alone at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (dg+HA)

220 Trump responded: "What I want to do and what I will do is you graduate from a college. I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma a green card to be able to stay in this country, and that includes junior colleges."
___

Well, this will prop up Big University and all their pathologies. Too bad. They should be left to wither.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 21, 2024 02:45 PM (fs1hN)

221 What is the Left going to do if Trump wins and doesn't give green cards to all the people he promised them to? Cry?

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:46 PM (JdL1m)

222 >>And really, honestly, do any of us really expect Trump to actually fix anything? He will, once again, be held hostage to the permanent government, ie, the Deep State.

His administration had some of the lowest levels of illegal immigration since the border patrol started keeping stats. He helped negotiate multiple peace deals win the Middle East. He lowered taxes. He presided over a fantastic economy. He got rid of NAFTA and other crap trade deals and leveled the playing field. He tariffed the hell out off China. He didn't start any new wars and ended the wars of his predecessor. All while fighting off the deep state.

I'd take a repeat of that.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2024 02:46 PM (LkLld)

223 hey, the whigs gave us millard fillmore!
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:44 PM (CWTWj)
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It was the last time the country had a ticket with guys named Zachary and Millard.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:46 PM (3Fz6p)

224 Anyone who gives up peacefully gets a one-way ticket to French Guiana
____

WTF?
Posted by: French Guiana

====

Think of it cheap protein.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (cOq4q)

225 @202 talked about that case yesterday. Some of the dicta from kavanaugh seems to suggest the opposite , specifically if that question comes before then they'd rule against it.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (kdLq+)

226 The absolute only reason Trump became president was taking a hardline on immigration.

You take that away and he’s worse then the GOP establishment on expanding government

Posted by: Olympian at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (FN3Zf)

227 From SCOTUSblog.com:

In that case, New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, the majority emphasized that courts should uphold gun restrictions only when there is a tradition of such regulation in U.S. history.

In Rahimi, the court reiterated that test, but it emphasized that its Second Amendment cases “were not meant to suggest a law trapped in amber.”

In other words "We didn't really mean it and lower courts should feel free to ignore what we actually said when they feel like it." Granted, Rahimi was/is a scumbag personally but that's not (supposed to be) the point.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (/y8xj)

228 Truck saying 96, and my truck tells temperature very well

First going to change bird bath water since not sure JT's is filled or not

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (fwDg9)

229 95 ProjectLincoln
A booming economy, record job growth, and promises delivered. Biden produces results, see for yourself.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 02:10 PM (CWTWj)
++++

Suck it, Lincoln Project.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:14 PM (C19Uv)

Get in there and HAWK TUAH on that thing

Posted by: New internet sensation at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (og5mY)

230
In March 2009, the heir to the British throne predicted that the world had 100 months "before we risk catastrophic climate change"

You talking about King Tampy the Septic?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2024 02:48 PM (xG4kz)

231 with guys named Zachary and Millard.

*Polite cough*

Posted by: Grover Cleveland at June 21, 2024 02:48 PM (dg+HA)

232 Alternativ für England.

Should probably ban them, huh?

Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2024 02:48 PM (iDNwP)

233 Abraham and Hannibal was a pretty cool name combo.

(Hannibal Hamlin was Lincoln's first VP.)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (v6JzV)

234 This slightly chilly redhead looks forward to the destruction of the treacherous legacy parties:
http://tiny.cc/mvwqyz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (C19Uv)

235 Republicans attending include Texas Reps. Dan Crenshaw, Tony Gonzales, and Michael McCaul, former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, political consultant Karl Rove, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.
Posted by: h

I heard Crenshaw was one of the good guys! He's undercover to keep an eye on all the others.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (JCZqz)

236 Get in there and HAWK TUAH on that thing
Posted by: New internet sensation at June 21, 2024 02:47 PM (og5mY)

Hey, that's my wife's line to our bull!!

Posted by: David French at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (Aoykm)

237 Dan Fucking Crenshaw. What a total tool and Paul Ryan junior. Remember those stupid Super Hero commercials a few years back? I think he really believes that.

Do better Texas. Do Better.
---
Almost impossible if you know his district.
It's solid GOP liberals.
With a crazy gerrymander to dilute rural conservatives.
The TX house in 2031 will be the best chance to get rid of him via redistricting.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (sklOS)

238 Yeah, well my name is on a bridge across the effin' Potomac, bub!

Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at June 21, 2024 02:50 PM (dg+HA)

239 I heard Crenshaw was one of the good guys! He's undercover to keep an eye on all the others.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (JCZqz)
------------
ISWYDT

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:50 PM (3Fz6p)

240 Charles III looks the part. What a shame he is a shitlib.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:51 PM (cf/0E)

241 I see the muzzies in France are raising hell and saying the country will burn if the Right is elected.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:27 PM (Aoykm)

Time to grease up the machinegun ammo with lard, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2024 02:51 PM (6ecJK)

242 England, Scotland and Wales got a partial (but not full) Brexit, and are now bombarded with daily media stories on how it's been a disaster, because reasons.

the people: but the voters voted for Bre...

the ruling class: they voted wrong!!!!!!

Posted by: brak at June 21, 2024 02:51 PM (AR07F)

243 Charles III looks the part. What a shame he is a shitlib.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2024 02:51 PM (cf/0E)

Diana was pretty much a hottie.

Camilla wins the ugly dog contest.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

244 Slightly chilly? In these temps?

Posted by: Gotta Wonder at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (dg+HA)

245 >>>The Weekend is here

Posted by: Skip

>It's time to fire up the smoker and grill some tasty meats.

I have a bad habit of buying more meat than I can eat, so I share with family whenever possible.

All of those foreigners and fugitive aliens can fuck off, - my grilled meats are exclusive, - unless you're female and single then we can have a nice, sit-down, pleasant chat.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (dmXQN)

246 Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

Two thugs race and fight each other to steal a FedEx package just seconds after the package was dropped off on someone's doorstep.

Absolute insanity.

The clip was shared by the homeowner on FB & shows the men jumping out of their cars as they raced to the package.

"Not really worried about the phones… but what if this guy would have hurt one of my family members…. Is this really what the world has come to?" the homeowner posted.

"Also how did they find out these phones were being delivered? Something fishy is going on here."

tinyurl.com/2pkfrxce

Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (NpAcC)

247 So, what happened to Rick Perry?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

He's 74 & pretty much retired.

https://tinyurl.com/3bjcy6rf

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (5g81t)

248 Yeah, well my name is on a bridge across the effin' Potomac, bub!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson

Fun fact: Edith Wilson died the morning of the day when she was supposed to be the guest of honor at the ribbon-cutting for that bridge.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)

249 "And really, honestly, do any of us really expect Trump to actually fix anything? He will, once again, be held hostage to the permanent government, ie, the Deep State."

Choose your appropriately numbered depressive button and vote NOW!!

1. It's all over-The Republic is dead.

2. Nothing good ever happens anytime, anywhere here.

3. What is the point of voting??. Lefties will cheat their way in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (XkYcA)

250 Diana was pretty much a hottie.
------------
Never thought she was particularly attractive, sorry.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (3Fz6p)

251 Get in there and HAWK TUAH on that thing

my god there is no escape from this....

Posted by: brak at June 21, 2024 02:53 PM (AR07F)

252 Does anyone remember when Joey had hair plugs? He's obviously had them removed because it was starting to look like he had a fire break on his scalp. Seems to have been memory holes

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2024 02:53 PM (kdLq+)

253 Republicans attending include Texas Reps. Dan Crenshaw, Tony Gonzales, and Michael McCaul, former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, political consultant Karl Rove, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.
Posted by: h at June 21, 2024 02:30 PM (aFNOf)

...no greater hive of scum and villainy...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2024 02:53 PM (6ecJK)

254 Diana was pretty much a hottie.
Posted by: Sponge

I was a Sarah Ferguson fan. Ginger.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:53 PM (v6JzV)

255 LOL, just kidding. The GOP will never, ever do that, and never, ever see an obvious disaster coming before it has already befallen them.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

They benefit from a monopoly on protest votes against Dems, and happiness of leadership to be a rump, minority party, because there's no alternative, and people don't want to throw their votes away.

Second look at ranked-choice voting? It's probably a loser idea, and has hurt us in the past (Alaska), but it's an easier way to get alternative parties some power and visibility than our current method...and using a Lefty initiative to create a monster to stop them has a poetic satisfaction to it.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 21, 2024 02:54 PM (JCZqz)

256 I was a Sarah Ferguson fan. Ginger.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:53 PM (v6JzV)
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Plus it seemed like she had a good sense of humor.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:54 PM (3Fz6p)

257 234 This slightly chilly redhead looks forward to the destruction of the treacherous legacy parties:
http://tiny.cc/mvwqyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2024 02:49 PM (C19Uv)

Looks to me like she wants to speak to somebody's manager. Right. Now.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:54 PM (T+Iwg)

258 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (XkYcA)

You could have at least included an All of the Above.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:54 PM (JdL1m)

259 4. The wheels are closing in
5. The walls are coming off.

Posted by: Here's two more at June 21, 2024 02:55 PM (dg+HA)

260 Somebody on Trump's staff didn't think the green card/college degree thing through. You'll end up Jajapal/AOC idiots with Marxist lesbian underwater basket weaving gender study degrees. Maybe I can understand STEM degrees but it doesn't say that from what I saw

Properly implemented, and with strong caveats, I'd agree with Trump. The caveats include a real degree in a real subject, preferably STEM, and some other demonstration of proficiency, be it a qualifier test or GRE, and a letter of intent to hire from a company.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:55 PM (xCA6C)

261 @alx
·
5m
BREAKING: A judge has dismissed the charges against the six Alternate Trump 2020 Electors in Nevada

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2024 02:55 PM (LkLld)

262 Trump is now saying any immigrant with a college degree gets an automatic green card.

Here we go again
Posted by: Olympian at June 21, 2024 02:33 PM (FN3Zf)

That's what, 3 people?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2024 02:55 PM (6ecJK)

263 Dear Dan Crenshaw.

Thank you for your service. I appreciate your sacrifice for this once great country.

Unfortunately, you've chosen to be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are now scum.

GFY. Go away.

Sincerely,

Texas

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

264 This slightly chilly redhead looks forward to the destruction of the treacherous legacy parties:
http://tiny.cc/mvwqyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She seems nice but has a Goa'uld coming out her belly button.
So - very bad.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 02:56 PM (cOq4q)

265 The Trump rally will be held at the Liacouras Center at Temple University in Philadelphia tomorrow night.

There hasn't been a Republican rally in the non-historical parts of Philadelphia in so long, no one can find a record.

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2024 02:56 PM (RHGPo)

266 Also how did they find out these phones were being delivered? Something fishy is going on here."

tinyurl.com/2pkfrxce

Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (NpAcC)

FedEx guy was in a huge hurry. One possibility is that he's tipping off their is on high value items. The other is that these CHUDs are following his van all the time and every package he sets down in certain neighborhoods immediately get jacked.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2024 02:56 PM (0FoWg)

267 She seems nice but has a Goa'uld coming out her belly button.

???

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:56 PM (v6JzV)

268 *I was a Sarah Ferguson fan. Ginger.*

I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.

Posted by: Mary Ann at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (dg+HA)

269 You could have at least included an All of the Above.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 02:54 PM (JdL1m)

Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (XkYcA)

270 - I seem to remember when not feeding the trolls was a thing around here.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (aDAOz)

271 Somebody on Trump's staff didn't think the green card/college degree thing through. You'll end up Jajapal/AOC idiots with Marxist lesbian underwater basket weaving gender study degrees. Maybe I can understand STEM degrees but it doesn't say that from what I saw

Properly implemented, and with strong caveats, I'd agree with Trump. The caveats include a real degree in a real subject, preferably STEM, and some other demonstration of proficiency, be it a qualifier test or GRE, and a letter of intent to hire from a company.

However, it's Trump, and this sort of shoot from the hip stuff is going to happen.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (xCA6C)

272 >>>Choose your appropriately numbered depressive button and vote NOW!!

1. It's all over-The Republic is dead.

2. Nothing good ever happens anytime, anywhere here.

3. What is the point of voting??. Lefties will cheat their way in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

>4. Can you handle a hot charcoal grill? We're bringing in another 50 lbs. of beef to feed the troops before the bloodbath.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 21, 2024 02:58 PM (dmXQN)

273 I've got a couple of racks of ribs and a nice pork tenderloin I'll throw on the smoker tomorrow.

It's totally halal.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 21, 2024 02:58 PM (Aoykm)

274 Trump has said several things recently that I think is just pandering to certain groups.
- Urban renewal efforts in the capitol city and NYC
- This "green card" nonsense
- Keeping the FBI in DC

He says these things but I don't know that they're actually his policy positions or just idle thoughts. If they're actual policy positions he's got a couple screws loose.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2024 02:58 PM (Q4IgG)

275 I seem to remember when not feeding the trolls was a thing around here.
Posted by: TeeJ at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (aDAOz)
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*checks pockets for Purina Troll Chow*

*pockets seem to be empty*

*continues doing part not to feed trolls*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 02:58 PM (3Fz6p)

276 However, it's Trump, and this sort of shoot from the hip stuff is going to happen.
Posted by: Archimedes

Yep, it's what he does.

Not turning in my cult membership card just yet.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2024 02:59 PM (v6JzV)

277 I seem to remember when not feeding the trolls was a thing around here.
Posted by: TeeJ at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (aDAOz)

It gets harder to accomplish when the regulars become trolls.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

278 >>However, it's Trump, and this sort of shoot from the hip stuff is going to happen.

He ran on it in 2016 as well.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2024 02:59 PM (LkLld)

279 Songs for the mood:
"Disco Inferno"
"Eternal Flame"
"Girl on Fire"
"We Didn't Start the Fire"
"Fire and Rain"
"Burning Down the House"
"Set Fire to the Rain"
"Great Balls of Fire"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2024 02:30 PM

Simple is best: "Fire"

Posted by: Crazy World of Arthur Brown at June 21, 2024 02:59 PM (Xh+WD)

280 I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.
Posted by: Mary Ann at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (dg+HA)

I can hire a chef with my fat stacks of movie cash, whore.

Posted by: Ginger at June 21, 2024 03:00 PM (OguvZ)

281 3. What is the point of voting??. Lefties will cheat their way in.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I want the vote total to not only exceed total number of registered voters but to exceed the nuumber a residents in the country.
Makes the fake totals more obvious.

/of course some of us thought that in 2020.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2024 03:00 PM (cOq4q)

282 >>Does anyone remember when Joey had hair plugs? He's obviously had them removed because it was starting to look like he had a fire break on his scalp.

He's done no favors to the hair restoration business.
With more money than anyone and that's the best you can look?

Posted by: No, thanks at June 21, 2024 03:00 PM (dg+HA)

283 246 Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

Two thugs race and fight each other to steal a FedEx package just seconds after the package was dropped off on someone's doorstep.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2024 02:52 PM (NpAcC)

Our replacements at work.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 21, 2024 03:00 PM (DTX3h)

284 English Royals have seemed quite leaning Leftists for a few decades, George loves Global warming side

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 03:01 PM (fwDg9)

285 However, it's Trump, and this sort of shoot from the hip stuff is going to happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2024 02:57 PM (xCA6C)

It's completely risk free to say it, there are people always waiting to jump on every little thing he says to prove they are right. I sincerely commend you for not being one of them.

He can always just say sorry I didn't have time to get to that with all these impeachments and rioting. Maybe in my third term.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 03:01 PM (JdL1m)

286 re 261: julie kelly at twixxer reports same

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 03:01 PM (CWTWj)

287 English Royals have seemed quite leaning Leftists for a few decades, George loves Global warming side
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2024 03:01 PM (fwDg9)

Prince Andrew molests children.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2024 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

288 Nood Kinzinger

Posted by: SimoHayha at June 21, 2024 03:02 PM (FthWa)

289 new newt: kinziger

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 21, 2024 03:02 PM (CWTWj)

290 Well, I've been stalling about going out and power washing the front steps and walkways. Toodles.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 21, 2024 03:02 PM (3Fz6p)

291 Thou shalt never, ever point to or mention anything Trump does or says that in any way reveals he may not be what his adoring fans have painted him in their minds to be.

- 1st Rule of AoS "Regulars" Commenting

Posted by: Son of Dad at June 21, 2024 03:04 PM (8JB5s)

292 Biden Regime Declares Trump Supporters Domestic Terror Threats in Newly Released Internal Documents, Sought to Set Up DHS Intel Unit to Target Them

John Brennan and James Clapper are constitutional kāfirs

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2024 03:05 PM (RHGPo)

293 Dear Dan Crenshaw.

Thank you for your service. I appreciate your sacrifice for this once great country.

Unfortunately, you've chosen to be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are now scum.

GFY. Go away.

Sincerely,

Texas
Posted by: Sponge

Twice.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 03:05 PM (5g81t)

294 nood cheap fakes

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 21, 2024 03:06 PM (ZdexC)

295 Biden Regime Declares Trump Supporters Domestic Terror Threats in Newly Released Internal Documents, Sought to Set Up DHS Intel Unit to Target Them

Posted by: SMOD

Nope. Not gonna say it. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 21, 2024 03:06 PM (5g81t)

296 The GOPe is a one trick pony. As soon as a viable 3rd party pops us and shows promise the GOPe will team up with the Democrats to label that new party a bunch of racist bigots. Same strategy every single time.

Should a new party pop up and gain traction despite false narratives trying to tear it down...then their usual plan B gets initiated. That being infiltration and dilution just like they did with the Tea Party.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2024 03:07 PM (dIske)

297 It would have been nice if Trump could have created his own third party (I know he was involved at one time with Perot's Reform Party) -- but The UniParty here has made it virtually impossible forany serious competitor political party to emerge.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 21, 2024 03:10 PM (kfTpm)

298 Ex-FBI confidential human source Derek Myers risks years of jail time for saying too much about his former employer. Yet despite the potential legal ramifications, Myers insists the FBI ran an operation involving hundreds of undercover informants on Jan. 6 to entrap and incriminate Trump supporters.

He would know. He was recruited for the assignment.

Just a few months into a new secret agent gig, Myers went from being enamored at the prospects of "taking down the bad guys" with the nation’s premier law enforcement agency to being alarmed over working with an organization weaponized against the newly elected Republican president and his supporters.

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2024 03:15 PM (RHGPo)

299 The other view over here is that it always said that not voting for Tory meant you'd get Labour.
Well, we're getting Labour anyway so no point voting Tory.
Farage was cut out of the UK version of the debates on Question Time, complaints were made about it to OfCom who waffled their justifications for it. However, he's making massive headways online.
Interesting times.

Posted by: PoliticalMcguffin at June 21, 2024 03:30 PM (uTzkn)

300
Just a few months into a new secret agent gig, Myers went from being enamored at the prospects of "taking down the bad guys" with the nation’s premier law enforcement agency to being alarmed over working with an organization weaponized against the newly elected Republican president and his supporters.
Posted by: SMOD

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"Newly elected"? Then it didn't start with J6.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at June 21, 2024 03:38 PM (RsVIV)

301 Posted by: Son of Dad at June 21, 2024 03:04 PM (8JB5s)

What amnesties did he do when he was president, shithead? Or you can just drvieby blanket comment instead of arguing the meat. You seem good at that.

Posted by: ... at June 21, 2024 03:40 PM (JdL1m)

302 "Conservative" Party and vote instead for a better party with a more realistic chance of success.

And if that does happen, then maybe American conservatives will take heart and find the courage to do likewise.

That's not how first past the post works.

Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2024 03:59 PM (FhXTo)

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