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THE MORNING RANT: No Internet Edition
My apologies, but I have no computer access to the internet at the moment, so this is being typed on my phone. Here are a few quick thoughts to fill the time until Ace gets here with a real post.
What are some known truths that you once accepted at face value, that might be worth rethinking? I'm not talking about the usual conspiracy-ish topics such as JFK, I mean things such as: - Smoot-Hawley caused the Depression. My circle of generally conservative friends has for decades accepted that as being the cause of the Depression. We never questioned it. I question it now. - Post WWII peace and prosperity was due to The Marshall Plan. Or, maybe the civilizational rebirth had more to do with the industriousness of the people digging out of the rubble. Marshall Planning the countries of our wars in the past 35 years hasn't seemed to help. - Tariffs are a tax on consumers. Or maybe it's a little more complicated than that. By the same logic, the abolition of slave labor is a tax on consumers. - Helen Keller: Inez Stephan tweeted out a while ago that her husband Jarrett is a Helen Keller truther. I never gave Ms Keller much thought in the first place, but it is rather convenient that this one person, Anne Sullivan, had a unique ability to communicate with Keller, and coincidentally enough, Ms. Keller had the same passionate political opinions as Ms Sullivan. On a lighter note, and as I have mentioned before, Mrs Throckmorton has the charming talent of unintentionally creating portmanteaus and mixed metaphors. Here are a couple of her recent ones. They may not be actual words, but their meanings are clear. Efflusive Bi-polar opposite Blindlessly [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 17, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2024 11:02 AM (iRX3h)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:02 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:03 AM (J2vNu)
Step 1 of the Marshall plan is to achieve an unconditional surrender which, generally, requires a significant number of dead civilians.
We've skipped that in ever conflict since WW2 and failed every time as a result.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:03 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2024 11:02 AM (iRX3h)
Sir, I offended by this accusation.
I mean
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Posted by: Stevie Wonder at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (xPJvm)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Jonestown Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (YIxO9)
Posted by: Ross Gellar from Friends at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (dg+HA)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (T+Iwg)
Tariffs are a tax on rapacious international trading partners that leverage slave labor.
FIFY, mostly.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (MkuC5)
she's not REALLY going to do that thing i like and one we get married / move in it'll all stop...
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (UCRjB)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (cCVOS)
That's my truth.
there's a song in there somewhere.
and a dance.
Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: BignJames at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
All taxes are, essentially, taxes on consumers. The only questions are how obfuscated is that fact and how damaging is the mechanism used.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2024 11:02 AM (iRX3h)
Him catching the falling microphone stand was enough for me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus
How did Roy Orbison know that the woman was pretty? Hmmm?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (qZEuM)
Posted by: BignJames at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
She didn't play pinball, tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (kTDNu)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (zhWvq)
Posted by: The Flat Moon Society at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (dg+HA)
Posted by: Ross Gellar from Friends at June 17, 2024
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Ross. I love ya, man. But that's my line!
Posted by: Joey Tribbiani at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
That's my truth.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)
So i have you reserved with a seat next to mine in the limo to hell.
we're not using the handbasket, we're going in comfort and style...
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (UCRjB)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 17, 2024 11:06 AM (v6JzV)
We've skipped that in ever conflict since WW2 and failed every time as a result.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:03 AM (U7wke)
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So, I've decided to rewatch The Fog of War this morning while I work. It's the interview with Robert McNamara made into a film by Errol Morris.
He talks pretty extensively about his involvement with LeMay's firebombing of Japan, and he has an interesting series of thoughts about how much of Japan was destroyed through the firebombing (51% of Tokyo was a start), and how they still had to drop two nukes to convince them to surrender unconditionally.
He's right about one thing for sure: the human race needs to think more about killing as a tool of statecraft.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
The Federal Reserve Bank inadvertently contracted the money supply, causing the Great Depression.
Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman! at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (uxCna)
Rosa Parks spontaneously making a stand on bus seating. Apparently, that was planned.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (cCVOS)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (qZEuM)
He could see, just not very well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (bYkx0)
Read "A Monetary History of the United States".
Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman! at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (uxCna)
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (MkuC5)
Pinball Wizard / Tommy?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (J2vNu)
They died, as eventually happens to all humans.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (U7wke)
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Tell me about it!
Posted by: zombie Washoe the chimp at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (ZdexC)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (T+Iwg)
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Of course, with that supple wrist!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:08 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024
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He could see, just not very well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024
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I recall a John Belushi SNL skit where he played Orbison, and everybody was trying to get him to move while singing onstage.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:09 AM (J2vNu)
Rosa Parks spontaneously making a stand on bus seating. Apparently, that was planned.
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The Scopes 'Monkey Trial' too.
[sock kept on intentionally]
Posted by: zombie Washoe the chimp at June 17, 2024 11:09 AM (ZdexC)
Pinball Wizard / Tommy?
little known fact: helen keller communicated primarily through beans.
Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2024 11:09 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (J2vNu)
Well, Floyd Smoot moved to Hooterville.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 17, 2024 11:09 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:03 AM (J2vNu)
"effluent".....talkin' shit
Posted by: BignJames at June 17, 2024 11:09 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:04 AM (T+Iwg)
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Of course, with that supple wrist!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:08 AM (8rTZX)
Has to be a twist!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (T+Iwg)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (W/lyH)
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Unfortunately, that's not what's being done here. Just another extended "round."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (8rTZX)
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Tell me about it!
Posted by: zombie Washoe the chimp at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (ZdexC)
Neigh! I tell you. Neigh!
Posted by: Hans the Counting Horse at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (ynpvh)
Nonetheless, I think it's what's going to happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
Took poor Spark's body down to the vet to have them do a postmortem. They let us know there was no foreign objects seen in the X-ray. So it may have been an embolism or cardiac arrest. The latter is a heritable trait and if that's what's found, his siblings will need testing and maybe medication.
Depressed. When we loaded the body bag into the car, HM began sobbing goodbye to him. An old dog, you have warm memories of their youth and energy. But to lose a seven-month old puppy with its life ahead of it is particularly hard.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (MoZTd)
Republicans are conservative.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (f5vQ9)
Nonetheless, I think it's what's going to happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
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Any...day...now...
And...now...
No...Now...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
If they are going to swap out Biden they need to work fast. Presuming of course that rules matter and Hawaiian judge doesn't allow Democrat Calvin-ball.
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (xhfG9)
>>Step 1 of the Marshall plan is to achieve an unconditional surrender which, generally, requires a significant number of dead civilians.
Don't forget devastation and having a base morality and civility.
We've tried to bomb Mohamadans into civility, can't work, they're impervious to that sort of thing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (UCRjB)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (xcxpd)
Oof, that's tough one, Hadrian. Condolences to you and your wife.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2024 11:12 AM (cCVOS)
FDR was a great president.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:12 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
😢
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:12 AM (f5vQ9)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
sure it can work.
we just need to use more bombs...
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:12 AM (UCRjB)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:12 AM (xcxpd)
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What I learned yesterday. The word oxymoron is itself an oxymoron. Oxymoron is ancient Greek for sharp and moron for dull..
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (L/fGl)
Higher labor costs certainly result in higher cost to the consumers but that's not the same thing as a tax (which a tariff is by definition) nor is either necessary wrong. Conflating the two is a rhetorical ploy.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:12 AM (UCRjB)
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They need to lose ground, permanently.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (n17eQ)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (qZEuM)
Posted by: Ross Gellar from Friends at June 17, 2024
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Ross. I love ya, man. But that's my line!
Posted by: Joey Tribbiani
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No, it was Chandler using it as example of his impossibly-high standards for dating seriously... something like, "What if she always says 'supposably' and I dump her for that?"
Joey does repeat it to himself several times though after Chandler has left the apartment as if it's a perfectly good word.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (ZdexC)
He's right about one thing for sure: the human race needs to think more about killing as a tool of statecraft.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
In Ye Olden Days, invaders killed as many people as needed to reach the King and then kill them. In the modern era, we kill soldiers who are unrelated to the national leaders and about whom those leaders care not at all in order to convince the leaders to do what we want.
The only way to make a nation change course is to make the people of that nation desire it and that requires pain, same as it always has.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:13 AM (L/fGl)
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Now do "utopia."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (MoZTd)
Suck.
Sorry, man. That blows.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)
So freedom meant the inefficiency of mgt of inputs to each slave was transferred to each freeman.
Millions of them. So costs for production of goods and services by former slaves had to rise.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
They've been heckling the Muppets for years under their stage names Statler and Waldorf. They were Helen Keller's favorite characters on the show.
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (u/Zei)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM
This being AosHQ, and TJM being TJM, an actual quote that ended up being used in a movie might be in order:
"No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country."
-- Gen. George S. Patton
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (bYkx0)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (xcxpd)
Ugh.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
Press Your Luck at 90% volume.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (qZEuM)
we're not using the handbasket, we're going in comfort and style...
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Just don't phone either of them on ironing day to set up the game!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (ZdexC)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (qZEuM)
If you're rich and famous, some women will allow you to use the braille technique.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: Jim
???
Connect your phone to your desktop with a usb cable.
On phone enable desktop to use phone's connection to access internet.
Cost = 0
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (pUmP9)
Posted by: Kenny Keller, little bro' at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (V5BDR)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2024
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It is. When Tatiana the Wonder Siberian passed in '10, it was an extra sad shock that she wasn't even four years old.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (xcxpd)
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What about when he's sung by Dean Stockwell?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
Yeah, that's the reason. Not that you're a shallow, vapid, poser who never should have been anywhere near power. You're just sensitive, and stuff.
Blow me.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (RHGPo)
"Yeah, about that....."
- FanDuel
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (T+Iwg)
Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman
Hmmm... looks at recent M2 numbers.
DOH!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (pUmP9)
On other hand, can't wait to see if knowing he isn't going to last much longer will they stick with the Ho.
Good time to stick in Mooch
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (kTDNu)
If that is correct then I am shocked. I thought for sure the Dems would eliminate Selective Service before they would include women.
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (xhfG9)
Press Your Luck at 90% volume.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (qZEuM)
Right now, it's Who Wants to be A Millionaire.
Regis Philbin is yelling at me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Kenny Keller, little bro'
Re-arrange the furniture.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (qZEuM)
I always liked that.
(I'm also a big fan of "supposebly," so take that as you will."
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (mSufQ)
We were told that all those icky jobs were better outsourced to places that had no environmental controls or OSHA, nor workers comp, social security, sex change operations for illegal aliens on death row.
The old school "Republicans" talked about "Free Trade" when it was nothing of the sort. A level playing field is one thing, but hollowing out millions of good paying "unskilled" jobs AND importing low-skilled "workers", this mess has been going on for 50 years.
I can't believe it took this long for anyone to notice. Why is that, don't ask me. This was predictable and it was predicted. Anyone sounding the alarm was branded a kook back then. Nothing has changed I guess, except the penalties for pointing out the obvious have increased substantially ....
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (8RZMB)
Joey does repeat it to himself several times though after Chandler has left the apartment as if it's a perfectly good word.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024
***
I do believe youse is right.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu)
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VAT is a tax on consumers also. Most European countries plus Canada don't seem to have a problem with that. And some US conservatives have proposed a VAT to replace income tax. Maybe time to re-think the objections to tariffs?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (n17eQ)
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (xhfG9)
The birthing people must be disposed of if The Planet is to be saved.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (MkuC5)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
I'm not sure I trust Robert MacNamara's ideas on statescraft. He sure as fuck screwed up the killing part as well. If you're going to do war, do it right. That guy's face needs to be hung in every proctologist's office as a reminder to never do anything half-assed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (LHPAg)
The sugar plantation owners in the Caribbean and Brazil used to just work their slaves to death, then get another batch. It seems like a really stupid way to run a plantation. It had to be cheaper to take at least minimal care of them.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (Z8Yh2)
Regis Philbin is yelling at me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)
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IS THAT YOUR FINAL ANSWER???
Posted by: Regis Philbin at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (7fElN)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
I truly feel for you and your family. I had to say goodbye on the 3rd to my Yellow Lab Bella. 15 years, 8 months is a long time of love and companionship to end. We had it done at home and same thing, as she was loaded into the vehicle, my daughter and I wept. I know and I hope that you know that their life with you on earth was heaven for them. Such a feeling of emptiness in the house.
Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:15 AM (qZEuM)
Right now, it's Who Wants to be A Millionaire.
Regis Philbin is yelling at me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
That's awful.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (qZEuM)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Regardless at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (dg+HA)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (xcxpd)
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He obviously didn't learn enough from LeMay until long after he left the SecDef position.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (XeU6L)
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Yep. You should meet his son.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (n17eQ)
Alex Orbison? I don't know much about him. Maybe that's a good thing...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
Nonetheless, I think it's what's going to happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
In order to save Our Precious Democracy, we must throw out the results of a series of votes in which we rigged the game to ensure this putz got selected because he really isn't that popular and replace him with someone who was never voted on.
Now, how do you get rid of Harris? She's not senile, just stupid.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (U7wke)
So freedom meant the inefficiency of mgt of inputs to each slave was transferred to each freeman.
Millions of them. So costs for production of goods and services by former slaves had to rise.
Posted by: torabora
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Now do transfer payments and the welfare state.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (/0X3E)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (0Gnoc)
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Hey, don't you know we have to fight a ground war in Russia?
-Dems
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:20 AM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2024 11:20 AM (jbnUc)
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Specifically those close to the levers of power. If that doesn't get the message across, then go after them.
The left is fond of using political killings to make a point.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2024 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:20 AM (ZdexC)
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2024 11:21 AM (xhfG9)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Pendulating Richard at June 17, 2024 11:21 AM (4wPQ8)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:21 AM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
We haven't. We've dropped bombs on their military, we've dropped bombs on their jihadists. Start obliterating major cities and people start questioning their priorities.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (f5vQ9)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (xcxpd)
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He obviously didn't learn enough from LeMay until long after he left the SecDef position.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO)
I just don't get him. He's very intelligent but maybe he's also an example of intellect not equalling good decision making. Or maybe he's talking from hindsight? I dunno. I could see him running Operation Python Wolf though, that's for sure.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (n17eQ)
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We've more than just thought about it.
-ATF
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (fs1hN)
Have you considered buying him Bluetooth earbuds?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)
He has hearing aids, just doesn't like them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Archimedes
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Death rates from sugar plantations was off the charts due to working in a fetid swamp filled with mosquitoes filled with all sorts of tropical diseases that mosquitoes carry. Plus the work was quite literally unskilled labor.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:23 AM (/0X3E)
Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2024
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I did the at-home thing for Chekov, the Ailing Codger Cat, in early '22. It was so much easier on him than bringing him to a strange place to have strange humans poke at him.
I put his best pics up on my computer and played Russian classical music on Yootoob on the TV. That was for Miss Linda's benefit . . . and, if I'm being honest here, for mine too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (MoZTd)
JT The Wonder Dog sends his love. He's very, very good at cheering people up (it's his job).
Posted by: pookysgirl doesn't spoil the dog, she's paying him at June 17, 2024 11:23 AM (dtlDP)
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The same evening there was an argument over it in a morning EMT [last week?], it aired here and by chance I watched it.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:23 AM (ZdexC)
>>Now, how do you get rid of Harris? She's not senile, just stupid.
Well, "tax evasion," worked on Agnew, I'm sure this dipsh*t has more skeletons in her closet than Jeffrey Dahmer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:23 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Pudinhead
My daughter and I watch Below Deck about people that charter luxury yachts in the Mediterranean and all the drama that goes on between the crew and also drama from the charter guests. Roy Orbison Jr. has been on two different episodes with his family. While he is very friendly and nice to the crew, he is a drunken mess and embarrasses his family. It seems the guy has made a career living off of his dad's name.
Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2024 11:23 AM (oiNtH)
Conditions on the transport ships were terrible, too, but apparently the profit margins were such that it didn't matter. (There are ships' manifests that note things like how many were loaded before departure and how many survived the journey, and apparently, like modern shrinkage, below a certain point, it's just part of doing business.)
For a somewhat less egregious and more modern example, there are companies than pay low wages and have relentless turnover (call centers and customer service mostly IIRC) because the training and expectations are low enough it's (apparently) not worth paying higher wages and keeping good workers.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (mSufQ)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (xcxpd)
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I think it's the hindsight thing. I seriously doubt that McNamara of 1963 was nearly as self-reflective and self-aware as McNamara was 40 years later.
I get the sense that he was very full of himself in 1963. He got Ford the make the Falcon and added seatbelts. He could do anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (4780s)
Posted by: Prove me wrong at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (dg+HA)
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Well, they ain't black.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Sponge
Questions kids will ask in 2030.
Posted by: rickb223
Perhaps akin to the line about why there aren't any Muslims in Star Trek?
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (u/Zei)
Re transfer payments and the welfare state.
At bottom it encourages fewer productive citizens by free riding and raises costs by inflicting scarcity of goods and services on everyone by the lack of available labor.
Too many riding in the wagon, too few pulling the wagon
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (0Gnoc)
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Well, they ain't black.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (L/fGl)
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Yeah, but what about their ballots?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (f5vQ9)
Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (q53pD)
Posted by: Sponge
Questions kids will ask in 2030.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:22 AM (f5vQ9)
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Inshallah!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:25 AM (8rTZX)
Unions, obviously the "leadership" was bought off decades ago, to look the other way. Not advocating for or against Unions here, that isn't the point.
The point is the betrayal of Democrats to a loyal core constituent base. Once they were done being useful, well - Under the Bus you go. No longer needed.
Notice the tone change over the years. In the 1960s and 1970s the smart set was running around trying to figure out how we can feed all the hungry people around the world. Norman Borlaug was a hero.
Somewhere along the way, the script was flipped. I recall one of the wack job professors idly mentioning that the rest of the world cannot ever have a "middle class lifestyle" and consumption rates enjoyed by Americans or other developed modern nations.
I thought it was a curious thing to say, and offensive. What I didn't have on my crystal ball, was she was correct in the sense that the suicide cult that runs the West was going to kill it here, because they can't do anything about it over there. They don't want people free and happy, yet they can't even change a car tire.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:25 AM (8RZMB)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Plenty of bones, anyway.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:25 AM (qZEuM)
Posted by: Regardless
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That word is used accrossed the whole country.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024
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A buddy of mine used to say "un-umitigated gall" for "unmitigated gall." I'm pretty sure he knew the difference, he was just being funny.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (BvTrf)
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Sadly, this is something that should be considered. It used to be kings and princes led their troops from the front, exposing themselves to direct risk.
Now, TPTB hide behind layers of security and bureaucracy to keep themselves safe from harm while sending out good men and women to fight on their behalf, believing they fight for "honor and country."
TPTB need to feel personal fear for their own safety or nothing will change. Dropping nukes on cities is one way to get their immediate attention, if nothing else works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (7fElN)
Posted by: Regardless
I'll take most annoying word made up by writer for a million Alex.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (pUmP9)
It's a write off, Jerry. They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (dg+HA)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)
Prolly should be careful making an offer like that to Obama.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea
That and try to figure where Mecca is/pray easterly in deep space.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (f5vQ9)
I'm for a one state solution and they're not going to be part of it.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:27 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea
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Well, they had Tasers.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 17, 2024 11:27 AM (n17eQ)
Prolly should be careful making an offer like that to Obama.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (U7wke)
Reports are, Owebama is usually the blowee, not the blower. He loves strong man hands and a 5 o'clock shadow on his number.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)
Open borders, or Welfare State. Pick one. Well if you want to collapse the system, embrace the power of "And". I think in the Insurance industry they call it an "attractive nuisance".
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (8RZMB)
MacArthur was a republican
That is reflected in the outcomes of the constitution/plan that they wrote.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (bQ/08)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (0Gnoc)
MacArthur was a republican
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (bQ/0
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I don't understand the difference between the two labels anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:27 AM (0Gnoc)
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Like so:
https://tinyurl.com/mr4534yc
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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To some degree, the major way to limit the appetite for more public spending on welfare is to require everyone to pay an obvious tax. For the most part, it is better to tax consumption than income or wealth for such things as it eliminates the free rider problem and if done as something like a national sales tax, the tax is obvious up front rather than hidden behind the compound taxing scheme of VAT.
Income taxes give the illusion that what the gimmedats want is free because only the 'rich' will pay the taxes.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (/0X3E)
Aaaaand what atheism, idolatry, prevarication, murder, theft, evny, unchastity and tyranny produce is what we have now.
Look it up.
Posted by: 80's music fan at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (QSrLX)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
Have you heard
about The Bird?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: 496 at June 17, 2024 11:30 AM (fu61S)
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea at June 17, 2024
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Probably they weren't even on Roddenberry's and Gene Coon's radar back then. If not, the network may have nixed the idea for some reason. "Mr. and Mrs. Middle America doesn't want to see *those* people!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:30 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Aladdin at June 17, 2024 11:30 AM (fs1hN)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Megthered at June 17, 2024 11:30 AM (8hKPY)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: blaster
Operation Wag the Dog.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (ZdexC)
Posted by: As any school child can tell you at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (dg+HA)
Like so:
https://tinyurl.com/mr4534yc
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (8rTZX)
Saw a tattoo shop in Denton, Texas over the weekend that had "from the river to the sea" prominently displayed in their shop window.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Megthered
Her asshole handler was an avowed Marxist. Probably everything is a lie.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (qZEuM)
Gold and silver were almost useless luxuries. Before the 1490's, the supply was much more limited. Once they started bringing it in faster than the systems could handle, bad things happened, apparently.
On the other end of things is the idea that Egyptian grave robbers were doing civilization a favor by helping maintain the supply of gold (as pharaohs and the like were buried with all their stuff).
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (mSufQ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:30 AM (J2vNu)
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Tattoos and piercings are all free?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (v6JzV)
What's the monthly gross?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (f5vQ9)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (kTDNu)
It could work but government appetite for MORE taxes is insatiable so eventually government swallows the economy and everything collapses into BK.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
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Let's count the number of bullets fired per kill.
We'll call it a.... kill ratio.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (bQ/08)
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If I was one of the movers and shakers running the country I'd keep her in. I've got too much time invested in wars, unlimited immigration, tanking the economy, and conning the rubes to train a newbie. She'll do as she's told. Same policies. Different face. Plus I get to leverage her womanhood, blackness and her affinity for the alphabet people to further piss off the conservatives.
It's either that, or she's expendable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: It's TAXPAYER money! at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (dg+HA)
Posted by: Megthered
Why were Helen Keller's shoes yellow?
Because her dog was blind too.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)
I know, rules, judges, etc.
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (xhfG9)
MacArthur was a republican
That is reflected in the outcomes of the constitution/plan that they wrote.
Posted by: Braenyard
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The Army, in general, has always had a socialist streak of paternalism running through it and not in a good way.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (/0X3E)
Well, "tax evasion," worked on Agnew, I'm sure this dipsh*t has more skeletons in her closet than Jeffrey Dahmer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Floated this last week: If they're certain Biden is going to lose beyond the margin of cheat and it looks like getting a sub on all of the ballots will be a problem, then he just withdraws and the dems throw all their support behind RFK. Harris can be told sorry, but it's just too late to sub you in. They'd take RFK over a sure loss to Trump in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (Dm8we)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)
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Tattoos and piercings are all free?
(Pay no attention to the main behind the curtain in comment 182)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024
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In his Operation Chaos fix-up novel about a world where magic is the essential force of civilization, Poul Anderson had the hero, a werewolf, and his future wife, a witch, fighting in World War II against "the Caliphate" rather than Germans or Japanese. He wrote the first of those stories, I think, in the late Fifties or early Sixties.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (SYTee)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (xCA6C)
Efflusive
Bi-polar opposite
Blindlessly
[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM
A real man would shamelessly steal those and give her no credit whatsoever.
You know. For the patriarchy.
/s
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (8rTZX)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:25 AM
You must mean that allegorically, because humans, unlike bats, raccoons, and many other Terran species, don't have a baculum.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (MF+Cu)
You morons play nice with each other and not so nice with Marxists. Buy ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (xcxpd)
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Sadly, this is something that should be considered. It used to be kings and princes led their troops from the front, exposing themselves to direct risk.
Now, TPTB hide behind layers of security and bureaucracy to keep themselves safe from harm while sending out good men and women to fight on their behalf, believing they fight for "honor and country."
TPTB need to feel personal fear for their own safety or nothing will change. Dropping nukes on cities is one way to get their immediate attention, if nothing else works.
I forget the title and am way too lazy to look it up, but there was a classic Star Trek episode about a planet that waged war by computer. Losses were computed and then people were randomly selected to go to gas chambers.
It's one of those interesting but also really stupid ideas Star Trek was able to actually make into compelling TV.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (mSufQ)
Posted by: Don't read the waffle iron at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (dg+HA)
For tge first 129 years, the federal government subsisted mainly on tariffs of foreign goods. This changed with the 16th amendment in 1913.
That's the key to rolling back feudalist tyranny. You cannot argue in good faith about how best to forcibly confiscate and redistribute the wealth of others.
Repeal the 16th amendment and you cut off their power at its source, the spigot from which all the gibzmedats are purchased in trade for votes.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (Z9YJK)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (xCA6C)
He sure played a mean pinball.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (FCbAQ)
But they didn't have an economy to suit. The short answer I betcha, without looking it up, is they ran out of money. Without regard to that, all of the unpleasantness we are going through would not be possible without financial chicanery smoke and mirrors. Gold may not be the answer, but then what is the question. A currency untethered to much of anything will cause misery, but that's not news.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (8RZMB)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:26 AM (BvTrf)
I'm a horrible enough person that I've never understood why anyone ever gave a single damn what Helen Keller thought about anything.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (U7wke)
You morons play nice with each other and not so nice with Marxists. Buy ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (xcxpd)
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Funny. I'll be going on a road trip around the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Megthered
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Substantially yes. The idea of Plato's guardians being able to substitute noble lies instead of truth for the masses just will not die among the elite. Logos in the form of the Bible is far superior than any Plato and their damned caves.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (/0X3E)
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:33 AM (/0X3E)
Military people being conservatives is a relatively new phenomonon.
The Army was chock full of FDR Democrats for decades. It wasn't until the Reagan years that started to turn.
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (xhfG9)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (U7wke)
I am in this camp.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Instead of insidious at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (dg+HA)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (v6JzV)
LOL the scam is she was communicating in her own special language that only her lying Marxist birm handler could understand.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (BvTrf)
They pay me 35k year to load and that's about half before taxes when I pretended to work for it. I've got taxable extras to make it work.
It's not as easy as it was working for it because I have to be careful spending the loot.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (0Gnoc)
You morons play nice with each other and not so nice with Marxists. Buy ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (xcxpd)
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Yes, and build your own guns.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (Z9YJK)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)
Germany rebuilt itself by adopting free market principles. Very high rate of growth. They then started adopting the welfare state in the 60s and their growth slowed.
Posted by: Don at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (2GPfT)
It's one of those interesting but also really stupid ideas Star Trek was able to actually make into compelling TV.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (mSufQ)
"A Taste of Armagedon" featuring the shmokin' Barbara Babcock.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (T+Iwg)
The former president was found guilty on 34 charges related to a hush money payment made before the 2016 election. A Politico-Ipsos poll released on Monday showed that among some independents, the guilty verdict is leaving them less likely to support Trump in November.
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (7keno)
Auto cucumber
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)
funny, he always struck me as being the bottom, like the little bitch he is...
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (UCRjB)
She needs one hand to moan.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (ZdexC)
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 17, 2024 11:34 AM (MF+Cu)
Shut it!!
Posted by: Stuart MacKenzie at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
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Those lovers should get that tattoo on a prominent place so that we all may know.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (bQ/08)
It's one of those interesting but also really stupid ideas Star Trek was able to actually make into compelling TV.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:35 AM (mSufQ)
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Yep. I remember that episode. People just walked into the disintegration chamber and were vaporized. It was painless, yet also inhumane. Life has no value under that system, which was the point of the episode.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (7fElN)
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Funny. I'll be going on a road trip around the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
*takes a risk*
East side meets west side downtown.
*cringes in anticipation*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)
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Had they no Xbox?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Common Tater
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Spain had the same problem as African agriculture had when the West began dumping excess subsidized crops there. You dump a bunch of gold in a country and it destroyed Spain as a super power because it destroyed in the domestic economy along with any work ethic.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (/0X3E)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (BvTrf)
It's one of those interesting but also really stupid ideas Star Trek was able to actually make into compelling TV.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024
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"A Taste of Armageddon."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (J2vNu)
Thou Shalt Not Steal, Except By Majority Vote.
I recall a YT screed or somebody, "I got 6 kids. Who's gonna pay for them!??" They were incensed at the whole thing.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (8RZMB)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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There are plenty of pics floating around the internet that show women in the 60's and 70's from Egypt, Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan going to university and well dressed like any western woman of the time. So that depiction was entirely plausible.
Posted by: Aladdin at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (qZEuM)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (/7KEl)
Labor costs make the world go round. That’s why women having jobs became a corporate priority; doubling the labor pool halves the salaries paid. The part where it was the planned foundation of making the US a communist country probably wasn’t on the radar in the 50s and 60s, but as Chuck Schumer said, it worked, didn’t it?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (3cXfB)
I don't understand the difference between the two labels anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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It was a long time ago.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (bQ/08)
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (UCRjB)
I'm sure he takes it in the ass. I mean, his wife has a dick.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
Germany rebuilt itself by being full of Germans. Same for the Japanese.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (xjTDL)
So the felonies have to be vacated. This isn't hard for me to understand but they're really stupid in New York.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
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Any...day...now...
And...now...
No...Now...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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A clear case of premature ejection.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (T+Iwg)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:27 AM (0Gnoc)
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Like so:
https://tinyurl.com/mr4534yc
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2024 11:29 AM (8rTZX)
This. So much this.
Hamas/Gaza rejected all the other peace agreements. They repeatedly rejected two state solutions offered to them. Then on Oct 7 they decided to FAFO. They found out. Gaza is being conquered by IDF - and with the spoils of war - now becomes Israeli territory. The only two-state solution that should be offered to Gazans is Live or Die.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
1. Automagic
2. Spynoculars
3. Optical delusion
Posted by: Hold my beer at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (EXdVF)
How much time ya got??
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (Wc8sE)
She needs one hand to moan.
Posted by: andycanuck
Clearly not a screamer.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2024 11:41 AM (WXNFJ)
Government of the people, by the people and for the people.
Posted by: TC at June 17, 2024 11:41 AM (FjlUt)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2024 11:41 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Michael Ansara - I dream of Jeannie - Blue Djinn
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:41 AM (f5vQ9)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2024 11:41 AM (V5eKu)
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It's compassionate to build a ticking time-bomb that will destroy your civilization in a few decades.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:42 AM (fs1hN)
Funny. I'll be going on a road trip around the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
How rumors of closets opening get started.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2024 11:42 AM (pUmP9)
gotta think about that one
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (/7KEl)
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Simple, KJP. She's effusively elusive.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (Z9YJK)
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 17, 2024 11:37 AM (UCRjB)
I'm sure he takes it in the ass. I mean, his wife has a dick.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
****
This is about me, isn't it.
Posted by: Barry Soetero, Bottom at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (0Gnoc)
But they didn't have an economy to suit. The short answer I betcha, without looking it up, is they ran out of money. Without regard to that, all of the unpleasantness we are going through would not be possible without financial chicanery smoke and mirrors. Gold may not be the answer, but then what is the question. A currency untethered to much of anything will cause misery, but that's not news.
Well, the idea is that they increased the supply of money without more value. I'm hazy on the mechanics or timeframe, but it's like those news reports of a billion-dollar asteroid. It may technically hold a billion dollars' worth of metal now, but once you actually have it, the increased supply will reduce the price.
Like I said, it's an interesting notion. Calculating how much gold was in circulation in Europe before Columbus, and how much gold was shipped in each year is when I start to zone out.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (mSufQ)
That's what Trump did with this stupid debate. It's Biden that needs the debate, but Trump conceded to the same old rigged-moderator BS terms.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (DdVgN)
Posted by: ragnarokpaperscissors at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (sBGiW)
If the trends continue? All of them. One thing I can be sure of is the weather, right now, when I go outside. I hope I don't lose belief in that, too.
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (QHWjA)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024
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He played Noah, Al Mundy's controller for the SIA. Though he did play a villain in an early U.N.C.L.E. in '65, and he (and a young prince the heroes were trying to protect) wore turbans.
Oh, there was an MfU episode where the locals in the foreign country spoke about Allah on occasion, but they were not fanatics, just crazy villains. And there was a more comic episode called "The Take Me to the Casbah Affair" which featured, you guessed it, a casbah in some Middle Eastern country.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (J2vNu)
Windowseal (for window sill),
Digestive track,
there's lots more but she's right. .
*Ow!!*
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
****
This is about me, isn't it.
Posted by: Barry Soetero, Bottom at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (0Gnoc)
****
He gave as good as he got
Posted by: US Taxpayers at June 17, 2024 11:44 AM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 17, 2024 11:45 AM (BaIXK)
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All parents love their children
the FBI are the good guys
politicians are honest servants of the people
Solo shot first
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:45 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2024 11:45 AM (pZEOD)
They may be despicable humans but they probably know their clientele.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2024 11:45 AM (/y8xj)
Food pyramid is good for you.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (f5vQ9)
They knew, they had to produce things that people wanted to buy. Favorable balance of trade. For America, it went negative about 1974 and never looked back.
Sure, there are areas that tended to do well in isolation - agriculture, and large ticket aircraft like Boeing, but overall negative. American government enjoyed the benefit of being the "reserve currency" used to settle oil contracts around the world, in lieu of gold being removed from world monetary systems.
These are all arrangements made before most of us were born. Bretton Woods 1944, and the Petrodollar in 1974. It's safe to say that many of the people making "policy" have absolutely no idea what any of this portends, and they would invariably do the wrong thing anyway if they were, having been installed for this kind of purpose anyway.
The question for candidates is "how much should we tax the middle class" or whatever, the question is why is anybody liable for income tax at all, unless they make say, 500k a year? They are throwing the peasants corn, and telling them "You fuckers don't know how good you got it. Vote for me!"
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (8RZMB)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (0Gnoc)
Vacated by who?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (BvTrf)
That's all I've ever thought about her, or ever will.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (0FoWg)
That's what Trump did with this stupid debate. It's Biden that needs the debate, but Trump conceded to the same old rigged-moderator BS terms.
Obviously Trump is a seasoned negotiator, and he agreed to the debates because he figured Biden would melt down and destroy his candidacy.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus
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Might as well ask for the moon. Repealing amendments is an exercise in political futility because the relatively homogeneous nation that passed those amendments no longer exists to undo them with the 3/4s of the states and 2/3rds of Congress or even a convention of the states.
We have become, more or less an empire, and as such are developing subnations that will eventually supplant the central government either de facto or de jure. The caveat is whether an all encompassing disaster hits the US or not which in history, often creates space for policy innovation and restoration of efficacy by the central government.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (/0X3E)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:40 AM (0Gnoc)
Vacated by who?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (BvTrf)
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...Ahem...
whom
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
Don't Believe The Hype...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (XRpj3)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (BvTrf)
Posted by: Piper
$450/$500 portable ac unit.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (f5vQ9)
Food pyramid is good for you.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (f5vQ9)
We're from the government and we are here to help.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 17, 2024 11:46 AM (N39Ws)
The Light worker looking at his pinched fingers saying "not one smidgeon"
He should be impeached and then tried for what he did to Ukraine.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:47 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Piper
Demand a lifetime supply of Key Lime pies for your trouble.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 17, 2024 11:47 AM (qZEuM)
But Chico was definitely Italian.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2024 11:48 AM (/y8xj)
You tellin' me that having 4 mansions in 4 states doesn't provide anyo'dat 'finds solace' stuff...??
Just what does it take to make these people happy anymore?
Mmmm-mmmm-mmmm
Posted by: Ju at June 17, 2024 11:48 AM (aTmM/)
Yes, thank you.
Yep. I remember that episode. People just walked into the disintegration chamber and were vaporized. It was painless, yet also inhumane. Life has no value under that system, which was the point of the episode.
Yeah, Classic Trek generally makes much more sense as a series of fables, morality plays, and parables instead of believable fiction.
Transporter accident splitting Kirk into "evil" (aggressive) and "good" (passive) doubles is great TV but really bad for worldbuilding and a coherent future history.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:48 AM (mSufQ)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (Z9YJK)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (xjTDL)
Hah, shows what you know. FDR single-handedly beat the GD, because he was such a financial whiz.
(Yes, an entire nation once believed that nonsense)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (BvTrf)
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Vaccinations.
The number of 'recommended' increased at least three-fold since the 00's. Plus they now seem to be stacked closer together and reduced age. This is what I'm hearing anyway, haven't made up my mind. But the question was is it worth rethinking, and I'm in the "yes" category for this one.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (bQ/08)
Gold and silver were almost useless luxuries. Before the 1490's, the supply was much more limited. Once they started bringing it in faster than the systems could handle, bad things happened, apparently.
On the other end of things is the idea that Egyptian grave robbers were doing civilization a favor by helping maintain the supply of gold (as pharaohs and the like were buried with all their stuff).
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:32 AM (mSufQ)
Well at least that gold and silver helped chuck the moors out of Spain.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (LHPAg)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (V5eKu)
Posted by: Caiwyn
It didn't. The Fed raised interest rates and kept raising them despite massive business and bank failures everywhere. Caused a massive dip in the money supply at the time when it was most needed. Then you had idiotic FDR admin ideas that raising prices for goods and labor would counteract deflation.
Panics (the old style depressions) rarely lasted more than a year or two.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (/0X3E)
(Yes, an entire nation once believed that nonsense)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (xCA6C)
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"FDR personally gave my granddaddy a job during the Great Depression and saved my family from starvation."
-Lots o peeps
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Tyrone Greene at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (0FoWg)
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That could never happen here in the US.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (L/fGl)
That merit and hard work would be always be repaid fairly by one's employer. And, chicanery and treachery would necessarily cause negative outcomes.
Wow, was I naïve.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2024
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Well, it's been 95 years now. I guess the whole question is Smoot.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (J2vNu)
The push is to junk old AC. just start new and stop waiting for the next thing to break. Or go get license ( still free) buy the stuff and do it yourself.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2024 11:38 AM (7fElN)
Ah, that was the episode where they violated the Prime Directive.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (U7wke)
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And the English captured one of the annual treasure ships from Cuba too!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (ZdexC)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2024 11:05 AM (cCVOS)
If we accept that, there's no telling where that will lead.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (VGRuw)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (BvTrf)
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He said "anytime anywhere", and he's stuck to that.
Eh. I don't think debates matter much anymore with a 24 hour news cycle and both candidates constantly on TV and on the Internet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)
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They are befuddled that he agreed to do them and are fearful that he will expose Joe.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:51 AM (bQ/08)
But they didn't have an economy to suit. The short answer I betcha, without looking it up, is they ran out of money. Without regard to that, all of the unpleasantness we are going through would not be possible without financial chicanery smoke and mirrors. Gold may not be the answer, but then what is the question. A currency untethered to much of anything will cause misery, but that's not news.
Posted by: Common Tater
Henry Kamen has a fantastic book on this -Empire: How Spain Became a World Power, 1492–1763. He argues that it was something akin to a miracle that Spain achieved the amount of wealth, influence, and imperial domains during the Siglo de Oro -something along the lines of Hooterville creating the Cern Hadron Collider.
One factor remains common in his and other works of Spanish history, however - there was such a stigma attached to business and manual labor in Early Modern Spanish society that there was, at best, only a rudimentary framework for those so very vital endeavors.
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea at June 17, 2024 11:51 AM (u/Zei)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:51 AM (/7KEl)
Bitter clingers
Typical white person
Of course, the JEF knows that short term memory for people is bad.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2024 11:52 AM (99eI0)
‘ I'm sure this dipsh*t has more skeletons in her closet than Jeffrey Dahmer.’
You’re so silly. I didn’t keep the skeletons . I tossed those trash bags in the dumpster across the street.
Posted by: J. Dahmer at June 17, 2024 11:52 AM (jbnUc)
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Not splitting the Red Sea??
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:52 AM (ZdexC)
-Lots o peeps
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024
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Replace "FDR" with "Huey Long" and you'd hear that from certain Lousy-ana dwellers for a long time after he died in '35. His whiskey-swiggin' brother Earl got elected on the strength of that, and his son Russell probably benefited from it too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:52 AM (J2vNu)
Silver was the "easy money" of the day, if you want to look at it that way. A little too large and cumbersome to haul around for large transactions. Nickles, dimes, quarters and halves circulated till they wore out, though. The dollars mouldered in bank basements and vaults for years, part of their required reserves, till the spot price of silver started rising in the 1950s. By 1964, they reneged on silver and demonetized silver coinage.
That's why it is legal to scrap or sell silver coinage. Ordinarily that kind of thing is unlawful. Kinda wacky.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:52 AM (8RZMB)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:52 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:49 AM (BvTrf
Yeah well Biden will need to endure 90 minutes standing behind a podium without a tele prompter, notes, help from aids, and water. Something is not right with the Dems agreeing to these guidelines. I didn't read anything about disallowing an earpiece ..
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 17, 2024 11:53 AM (7keno)
It's an interesting conundrum for Tapper and Bash. Of course they want to destroy Trump, and will do their best, but they have to know that if they're too obvious about it, they'll actually discredit themselves and generate sympathy for Trump. They also have to develop questions for Biden that he can handle but that also don't make them look completely in the tank (which they are). It's a matter of tone and degree and I'm not sure if they'll manage it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 11:53 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2024 11:42 AM (fs1hN)
The important thing is that it got me elected many times and I was out of office before the SHTF. -- early - post war - German socialists
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM (ZdexC)
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Anson captured the Manila Galleon in the early 1740s. Even the common seamen got enough prize money to retire comfortably on.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (3Fz6p)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (aFNOf)
Jake Tapper: So, Mr. Trump, when did you stop cheating on your wife?
Trump: When I became a Republican.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (/y8xj)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (V5eKu)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:50 AM
If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
Posted by: Oliver Smoot at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (ZANHd)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:55 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Former Chef at June 17, 2024 11:55 AM (V5BDR)
A new Des Moines Register/Ann Selzer poll released today shows Trump beating Biden by 18 points, in a 4-way poll that includes RFK,Jr. & the Libertarian nominee.
Hopefully, that dramatic expansion of Trump's lead in IA portends something similar for WI & MI.
The poll is unusual in that it omits the Green Party candidate Jill Stein, & also omits Cornell West.
The good ole Libertarian Party is attracting 2%, which is harmless in IA, but could get Biden re-elected if the LP polls the same in swing states.
Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2024 11:55 AM (NLIak)
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 17, 2024 11:55 AM (CecP5)
Jake Tapper: So, Mr. Trump, when did you stop cheating on your wife?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe
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After I fucked your wife I said, no more strange.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2024 11:55 AM (bQ/08)
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Well, yeah... When Arabs run your country for that long, work is an alien concept.
Here's a joke for you.
An Arab walks into a club, but doesn't know it's a gay club. After a little while, a guy walks up to him and says "hey buddy, you want a blowjob?" The Arab freaks out, and beats him down to the floorboards.
The bouncer comes over and says "what the hell is going on here? What did that guy say to you?!"
The Arab replies "I dunno. Something about a job."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (0FoWg)
Maybe it's because the difference between the picture they paint of Trump is so stark from reality.
They can't help someone like Romney because he's a slimy scuzzball.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (BvTrf)
We all know a government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take away everything as well. So when I saw liberals in the early 00s whinging about how some corporations took in more money than entire governments, and that somehow made corporate power more dangerous than those governments, I just rolled my eyes, because a corporation doesn't make laws and therefore can't control you, right? A corporation can't use the threat of force to take your rights away, so it will never be able to curtail your basic constitutional rights.
Well, I've moved back from that a bit. Seeing how woke corporations have behaved, especially investment groups like Blackrock who use capital as leverage for an ideological agenda, or tech companies staffed entirely by leftwingers who are actively trying to censor large swathes of the internet, has really opened my eyes to the dangers of corporate power. Some of these companies really *are* trying to diminish our basic constitutional rights, and they don't need guns to do it.
Posted by: Caiwyn at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (BaIXK)
In Obama's case, naked young men.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2024 11:54 AM (aFNOf)
That's HOT!
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)
no one seems to be acknowledging this possibility
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Then he shall debate in the shade!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (ZdexC)
There are two political parties.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (KbCG3)
S-H made the shock worse because it retarded cash flow that might have softened the blow. But a Depression was baked in the cake in 1919.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (zrlyb)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2024 11:43 AM (DdVgN)
Pretty sure we've already been over the "Trump is such an idiot viz the debate" topic. Ace even had an entire thread on it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (xCA6C)
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
Seriously, though, one episode (I think it's the Klingon proxy war arms race one) asserts that the Prime Directive only applies to developing worlds, not stagnating or declining ones. (That rule is applied very inconsistently.)
Then TNG expanded it to "don't interfere with anyone one else ever" and Jesus Christ they took a defensible guideline into one of the dumbest things ever.
In this
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (mSufQ)
The push is to junk old AC. just start new and stop waiting for the next thing to break. Or go get license ( still free) buy the stuff and do it yourself.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 11
It’s a commercial unit on a roof in a commercial (tall) building. It’s old. It’s the fan motor, and at the risk of upsetting all the feminists, I am a 5’1 girly girl. I am not climbing on a roof in the Alabama summer heat to replace a fan motor on a commercial unit while watching a YouTube video showing me how. Though, that in and of itself might be the viral video that pays for the new unit. 😂
Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2024 11:57 AM (pZEOD)
Ultimately all taxes take money from people and give it to the government. This acts as a punishment that makes people want to do whatever activity is taxed.
Tariffs? They make people buy less from other countries
Sales taxes? They make people consume less
Income taxes? They make people work less
Investment taxes? They make people invest less
Now looking at this list is should be clear that taxes of the last two are stupid and destructive.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2024 11:58 AM (ibTVg)
Germany re-industrialized in the 50’s, aided by the British giving them a labor/management model that worked out of the box.
Thank you Paul Johnson for those insights.
Posted by: Cowboy Wally at June 17, 2024 11:58 AM (9mJiB)
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That could never happen here in the US.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 17, 2024 11:58 AM (L/fGl)
I'm not saying she didn't have a disability. But I think it was greatly exaggerated to the point of being misleading.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: 80's music fan at June 17, 2024 11:59 AM (QSrLX)
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (ZdexC)
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Where is Polynikes when you need him?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 17, 2024 11:59 AM (3Fz6p)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2024 11:59 AM (V5eKu)
Posted by: Paul Ryan climbing out from under Obama's desk and reaching for a towel at June 17, 2024 11:59 AM (ibTVg)
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM (BvTrf)
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Rmoney is a more polished turd than Michael Cohen.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 12:00 PM (0Gnoc)
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They will be handed questions by the WH. They ain't developing shit.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2024 12:00 PM (BvTrf)
He called me an "elitist".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2024 12:00 PM (XRpj3)
There are two political parties.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2024 11:56 AM
Threadwinner material.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2024 12:01 PM (ZANHd)
No; I don't think so and the irrational level of anger he sometimes has sounds like a person with dementia.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2024 12:01 PM (XkYcA)
Aristotle posited on what makes good money. Anything can be used as money. Wheat, corn, hides, big round stones, cigarettes, eggs, small bottles of whisky, salt, you name it. Gold, and silver to a lesser extent, fulfill just about all the good attributes. Portable, durable, divisible, homogenous, rare though not too rare, and difficult to counterfeit. Nobody spends any effort trying to locate some long lost monarch's checkbook from 2000 years ago. But if you find a Roman Denarius or gold doubloon - you can spend it anywhere in the world, after a fashion. In that sense, gold has long been considered the currency par excellance, rightly or wrongly.
But it is inconvenient to try and carry farmland around, or cattle.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 12:01 PM (8RZMB)
Posted by: Jean Luc-Picard at June 17, 2024 12:01 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 17, 2024 12:01 PM (uzjGf)
He called me an "elitist".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2024 12:00 PM (XRpj3)
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"The regular people should be allowed to find their own solutions."
-Elitist
"The government should have complete control over every aspect of the people's lives because the elite know better than the plebeians."
-Not an elite
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (kTDNu)
They won't let Trump rebut the dumbshit spewed by Biden because they KNOW if Trump does his standard routine, Biden will go into dementia rage.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2024 11:09 AM (v3pYe)
"Stand by for a report from the Interior."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (BfydD)
has finalized the rules for the first presidential debate of the 2024 election cycle, which is less than two weeks.
Both candidates accepted the network's invitation to debate last month, agreeing to certain rules and formats that were outlined in CNN letters to their respective campaigns.
CNN said there will be two commercial breaks during the debate, and candidates are not allowed to consult with other members of their campaign during that time.
The network also noted that candidates' podiums and positions will be determined by a coin flip, their mics will be muted outside of speaking time, and that candidates will be provided only with a pen and a pad of paper.
Candidates will not be allowed to bring props or prepared notes
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (7keno)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (0Gnoc)
Blow me.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)
Ooooh. Name the place, big boy!
Posted by: Barry Bath houae at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (iODuv)
There are good people in politics.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (WPL6O)
Interaction between the debate moderators and the campaign? You are far too cynical.
Posted by: Donna "White Boy" Brazille at June 17, 2024 12:02 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Common Tater
I think carrying cattle around for trade was the topic of a Far Side cartoon.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 17, 2024 12:03 PM (v6JzV)
Investment taxes? They make people invest less
Now looking at this list is should be clear that taxes of the last two are stupid and destructive.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2024 11:58 AM
You're right. Let's tax unrealized capital gains!
Posted by: Democrats at June 17, 2024 12:03 PM (ZANHd)
Yup. And, it'll get him and sonny into a nice little deal, I just wonder where and when. (They probably own half a foreign nation somewhere.) The family succession is already in play & he and Jill will never, ever go away, similarly to Bill & Hill, Barack and Michelle, etc.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at June 17, 2024 12:03 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2024 12:03 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 17, 2024 12:04 PM (Z9YJK)
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No; I don't think so and the irrational level of anger he sometimes has sounds like a person with dementia.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2024
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Yes; he's not that good an actor. He's been "acting" for decades, of course, pretending to be a caring servant of the people. But he keeps dropping out of character and getting caught, as in that plagiarism business.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 12:04 PM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 17, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024
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Uncle Joe at the Shady Rest in Hooterville >>>> "Uncle" Joe Stalin and F. Joke
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 12:06 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 12:06 PM (0Gnoc)
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 17, 2024 12:06 PM (9acZN)
Honestly, completely "free trade" should only be by allies with very close ties and similar gdp statistics, so that there's little incentive to undercut and undermine one of the parties. NAFTA was fine, except for Mexico, who wasn't (still isn't) quite there.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 17, 2024 12:07 PM (zrlyb)
"How Immigrants Are Helping Keep Job Growth Hot While Inflation Cools"
So there. We peons have got it all wrong. Everything. We should thank God for open borders & be grateful for the success of the Inflation Reduction Act too.
Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2024 12:07 PM (NLIak)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024
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Trump just needs to nail him down on that. "Tell us, exactly where and when did your son Beau die, Mr. Biden? Iraq? No, he didn't; you're lying. Afghanistan? Try again."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu)
Our farmland alone, is practically the envy of the world having a large percentage of the very best soil for growing crops, and favorable precipitation.
Resources of untold riches. Timber, oil, gas, minerals, coal - hundreds of years worth, and they are always finding more. Surveys done in the 1960s identified oil shale deposits alone in Utah and Colorado as off the charts. We won't even mention Alaska.
The biggest mind virus to come to terms with - just about every problem we run into today is completely and utterly artificial, effected by government. "Can you imagine....." Yes. Yes I can, and it makes me sad. They are destroying everything before our eyes, to "help" us.
They caused all these problems, but people are starting to discover that the "solutions" by government to government mismanagement always tends to worsening the situation.
Everybody learns at their own pace, I always say.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 12:08 PM (8RZMB)
I can see Trump's signal being lost due to a "failed connection" or "buffering error" or whatever Tapper and Co. want to call it. The signal delay would also hamper effective come-backs.
Either that or there's a camera crew in the holding area with Trump, who's wearing the traditional prison garb. Either way, the whole thing could be stage-managed to Biden's benefit.
Posted by: John Drake Is Now At The Caspian Sea at June 17, 2024 12:08 PM (u/Zei)
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2024 12:06 PM (0Gnoc)
Got good at that when I had to change diapers for 8 years straight.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 17, 2024 12:09 PM (zrlyb)
For a while, silver was *incredibly* important and useful. That was after photography was invented but before digital cameras.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 17, 2024 12:10 PM (mSufQ)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2024 11:07 AM (cCVOS)
Amazing how a camera was at that event...
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at June 17, 2024 12:10 PM (Rbu5d)
These are the same people who think gasoline should be taxed at 10 bucks a gallon. They insist on "transitioning" the entire economy to rechargeables. Whether a city bus, sno plows, etc etc. Nobody gets to vote on this.
"Our Precious Democracy". Sure.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 12:11 PM (8RZMB)
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2024 11:18 AM (8RZMB)
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You are making it way too complicated. It's multi-faceted. One, it was cheaper, and businesses are always going to go for cheap. Part of that reason is because even though we are a very competitive country, enough additional costs had been leveraged on it to make it non-competitive in some situations. Obviously CHina dumped liked crazy, making cost even more of an issue.
Two, money men realized this movement of material world wide gave them an excellent way to get fees to manage all the info flows. It was kind of a hidden cost I guess, but it was clean and easy and very profitable. Much easier to take something off the top than to actually make something. The environment for all for that is changing - and DC is the epitome of money men central. It's another reason Trump is so hated.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 17, 2024 12:13 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (MoZTd)
I'm so sorry.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at June 17, 2024 12:13 PM (Rbu5d)
‘ What are some known truths that you once accepted at face value, that might be worth rethinking?
Government of the people, by the people and for the people.’
Democracy. Definitely democracy. There’s no moral basis for criminal parasites to hold power over the productive and law abiding.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2024 12:13 PM (jbnUc)
Bankruptcy tends to propagate because businesses that go under no longer provide business for other businesses, and they don't pay their creditors. Fed policy can reduce this propagation by providing liquidity (loans). But the Fed at that time did the opposite.
For instance, post-depression it is recognized that a key role of the Fed is to act as lender of last resort to keep banks afloat in the face of runs by depositors. But at that time the government was focused on fiscal conservatism and did not want to lend! Holy cow.
With fractional reserve banking, bank failures and people pulling their money out of banks created serious shrinkage of the money supply, which forced banks to greatly contract lending, just when businesses needed to increase borrowing to survive.
It was Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz who figured out how monetary policy made the depression "great." That's where Friedman made his bones as a great economist.
Posted by: Alec Rawls at June 17, 2024 12:13 PM (YwWCT)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
The people who are bombed must value human life.
Unfortunately, they do not.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at June 17, 2024 12:15 PM (Rbu5d)
Nonetheless, I think it's what's going to happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
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The problem is the dems have no options. Absolutely none, and they know it or FJB would already be gone. Harris is less popular. Newsome is sitting on the budget time bomb of hell in California. Maybe Whitmer in Michigan. Hochul in NY is despised and the money hates her guts. Pritzker is a fat guy who won't translate well on National TV.
They are totally screwed.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 17, 2024 12:16 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 17, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)
Yeah, every time I drive by it, I want to huck a few cement blocks
Posted by: goozer at June 17, 2024 12:17 PM (aWAkn)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2024 11:14 AM (U7wke)
And Kings used to lead the men into battle.
Now the "kings" hide in their bunkers while sending the children of their domestic enemies to the front lines to be slaughtered.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at June 17, 2024 12:18 PM (Rbu5d)
He pulled this act in 2020: he acted all addle brained up until the debate, and his performance at the debate was so much better than his day to day act, that he looked fine to people who had only heard he was feeble minded.
Biden is a very clever and evil person - he is the one directing the prosecution of Trump to tie him up and keep him from campaigning. Don't underestimate him. I can pretty much promise you he will NOT be the dopey Joe we've been seeing day to day, at the debates.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 17, 2024 12:34 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: Northernlurker at June 17, 2024 12:39 PM (3Qlx4)
Posted by: LKP at June 17, 2024 12:42 PM (ITxV8)
Post-WWII peace and prosperity were due to the military-industrial complex keeping employment high despite the usual post-war depression, which did occur. The Marshall Plan merely extended that complex globally. Modern attempts at it have failed for numerous reasons, including extreme cultural differences, lack of local infrastructure, and failure to properly "de-nazify" the places it was attempted.
Tariffs are a tax on consumers. So is dependence on imports. Calculating which one is worse is the hard part, particularly when you have to factor in pandering to economic interest groups, essential security, and ideological purity.
Posted by: Sam at June 17, 2024 01:01 PM (7jMef)
Posted by: OBAGeezer at June 17, 2024 01:09 PM (C8ve7)
Posted by: ICLshmpdGXNPR at June 17, 2024 01:25 PM (esR1I)
I question you a conservative because at every single turn you show that you hate free trade. Which also shows that your REAL problem is with freedom. In fact, I'd argue you will not be happy until the United States is more isolated from the world than, say, Albania in 1980.
The problem you ultimately have is that free people do what they want and buy what they want instead of what Buck Throckmorton thinks they OUGHT to want. (And you want to use police power to force people to see things your way.) Underpinning your arguments against Smoot-Hawley causing the depression and your arguments aganst free trade (and your mocking people who support free trade as Principled Free Traders) is your lack of belief in freedom itself. (h/t, Friedman) Hell, you don't even want freedom defended in any way.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 17, 2024 03:06 PM (8sMut)
And why do you question it now ? What data points of facts or policies brought you to that ?
Posted by: The Dark Lord at June 17, 2024 03:23 PM (DBAaD)
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