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"Far-Right" Parties Make Big GAINZZZ in European Parliament and the Leftwing Media Is Angry

Biden wonders:

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The AP is sad.

And when the AP is sad, freedom advances.

Far-right parties made big gains in the European Parliament in election results that rattled the traditional powers and made French President Emmanuel Macron call snap legislative elections.

By "far-right" they mean "supporting limits on immigration."

Which everyone except the woke left does.

So everyone apart from the hardcore extremists of the woke left are now "far-right."

Macron's party suffered a heavy defeat from the far-right National Rally party, while in Germany support for Olaf Scholz's center-left Social Democrats sank to a projected 14%, behind the extreme-right Alternative for Germany, which surged into second place.

Millions of Europeans voted for candidates to serve five-year terms in a new European Parliament, the legislative branch of the 27-member trade bloc. Provisional results from the voting that ended Sunday showed the Christian Democrats would have 189 seats, up 13, the Social Democrats 135, down 4 and the pro-business Renew group 83, down 19. The Greens slumped to 53, down 18.

Emmanuel Macron, who was forced to greet American veterans while "Doctor" Jill Biden wiped Joe's ass of the poppie, has called for snap elections to try to strengthen his grasp.

The EU Parliament elections don't have anything to do (directly) with the French National Assembly, but I guess he wants a show of force against the "far-right."


In an address to the nation from the Elysee presidential palace, Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly." The vote will take place in two rounds on June 30 and July 7, he said.

The move comes as first projected results from France on Sunday put the far-right National Rally party well ahead in the European Union's parliamentary election, defeating Macron's pro-European centrists, according to French opinion poll institutes.

Correction: I initially wrote under the mistaken premise that Macron was calling for a presidential election. He's not. The French system has a vote for the National Assembly and an entirely separate vote for President. The NR could make gains in the Assembly.

I confused it with the British system in which the parliamentary vote produces a national leader -- the majority coalition picks the PM. In the French system, the president is installed by a separate vote for that office. Then the president picks the PM.

It's the presidency I don't think they can win.


Germany has ruled the AfD a threat to democracy and its spy agencies claim a right to surveil the party and interfere in elections. But they increased their representation in the EU Parliament, too.

Huh -- a popular party that refutes the claims made by the unpopular leftwing coalition is a "threat to democracy" and must be subverted by the intelligence agencies. Where have I heard this before?

It's all done to Save Muh Democracy, remember.

Germany's unpopular governing parties sank to feeble results and the far-right Alternative for Germany made gains in Sunday's vote for the European Parliament, while the mainstream conservative opposition was the country's strongest political force by a distance, projections showed.

Projections for ARD and ZDF public television, based on exit polls and partial counting, showed support for Chancellor Olaf Scholz's center-left Social Democrats at around 14%, below the 15.8% they managed in 2019 -- already their worst post-World War II result in a nationwide vote. After a campaign in which Scholz played a prominent role, the Social Democrats fell more than 10 points short of their showing in Germany's last national election in 2021.

Alternative for Germany, or AfD, was seen winning just over 16% of the vote for a probable second-place finish. That's better than its showing of 11% in 2019 but still some way short of its poll ratings at the beginning of the year. The party has seen a string of setbacks since then, including scandals surrounding its two lead candidates for the European Parliament.

Italy's Georgia Meloni has been strengthened by the vote.

Italian Premier Giorgia Meloni hosts this week's summit of the Group of Seven industrialized nations as the most stable European Union leader.

Meloni's German and French counterparts were shaken by European parliamentary elections that fortified Meloni's far-right Brothers of Italy as the strongest in Italy, setting her up as a possible bridge maker, if not kingmaker, in Europe.

Meloni's solid results create a rare stability in Italian politics, as far-right parties rattled both French President Emmanuel Macron, who called snap elections after his party was eclipsed by Marine Le Pen's National Rally, and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, whose authority suffered a jolt after the far-right Alternative for German finished second, beating his Social Democrats.

"I am proud that this nation presents itself at the G7, and in Europe, as the strongest government of all,'' Meloni told supporters early Monday. "This is something that has never happened in the past, and which is happening now. It is a satisfaction, and also a great responsibility.''

The "centrist" Polish PM barely clinged to power but the populist right gained in support.

Many viewed Tusk's return to power last year as a rare case of a democratic party prevailing over populist and authoritarian forces. However, while Sunday's win solidified his position, the results also showed that his lead is small, and that support for the far right is rising.

There's that "far right" again.

In Belgium, the "far right" party failed to garner the most votes, being held off by the "right wing" party.

Flemish nationalist parties dominated general elections in Belgium on Sunday as Prime minister Alexander De Croo’s liberal party took a hit, with difficult coalition talks to form a new government now looming.

Despite polls predicting that the far-right, anti-immigration Vlaams Belang party would become the main political force in the country with 11.5 million inhabitants, the right-wing nationalist New Flemish Alliance (N-VA) retained its first spot, with an expected 22% of the votes, according to provisional results provided by the Interior ministry.

The Vlaams Belang came in second position, with a share of 17.5%, ahead of the Socialist Voruit party, which garnered about 10.5% of the votes.

I think the "far right" party (this is AP's term) was probably hurt by a surge in voting for Flemish separatist parties. You can imagine that voters sick of the system might skip right past the "far right" alternative and just vote for a National Divorce from the Regime.

The populist leader of Hungary won another election with 44% of the vote and with a majority of the representatives in parliament, but the AP brands it a loss.

The AP calls the loss by Orban's main challenger a "major win."

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's nationalist party took the most votes in Sunday's European Parliament elections but sharply underperformed its past dominance in a race that pitted the long-serving leader against a new challenger that has upended Orbán's grip on Hungarian politics.

With 85% of votes counted, Orbán's Fidesz party had 44% of the vote, enough to send 11 delegates of Hungary's 21 total seats in the European Union's legislature.

While Fidesz took a plurality of votes, it was down sharply from 52% support in 2019 EU elections and looked set to lose two seats in what was widely seen as a referendum on Orbán's popularity.

"Down sharply" from a majority to a large plurality.

Cope and seethe, AP. Cope and seethe.

Still, while speaking to supporters at a party event Sunday, Orbán claimed victory over his opponents.

He claimed victory. I mean, he actually won, but the AP thinks his opponent won a moral victory, so he's lying when he "claims" a victory.

Dee you lying vicious bitch.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:02 PM




Comments

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1 FIrst

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:02 PM (MvF+J)

2 In Europe, anybody to the right of Joe Biden is "far right"

Posted by: SMOD at June 10, 2024 04:02 PM (RHGPo)

3 First.

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:02 PM (IHRQq)

4 Seats

Centre-right EPP: 192 (+14)
Centre-left S&D: 137 (-3)
Liberal RE: 85 (-17)
National-conservative ECR: 78 (+10)
Right-wing ID: 62 (+3)
Greens/EFA: 51 (-21)
Left: 39 (+2)
Non-Inscrits: 76 (+27)

+/- vs. current composition

Posted by: SMOD at June 10, 2024 04:02 PM (RHGPo)

5 So when do the nazi comparisons begin?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 10, 2024 04:02 PM (QNSds)

6 Drudge red hed: "FAR RIGHT ROCKS EUROPE"

People who don't want their countries invaded are now FAR RIGHT.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:02 PM (MvF+J)

7 GAINZ?

I gained a year today.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

8 "Far-Right" == "Not on the Left Pole"

That's all.

Euroskeptic? Far right.
Not all-in on "climate?" Far right.
Nationalist? Far right.
Border-protectionist? Far right.
Non-feminist? Far right.
Capitalist? Far right.

It's a joke.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (d04cU)

9 So everyone apart from the hardcore extremists of the woke left are now "far-right."

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So, there's no danger of becoming a Nazi by being far-right, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

10 5 So when do the nazi comparisons begin?


all over X, all day today already

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (s3qiR)

11 I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

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Hey, happy birthday, fellow Gemini!

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (DRSnL)

12 Be careful of labels, on Europe "Far Right" will be labeled Fascists but will be closer to 70s Democrats

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2024 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

13 GAINZ?

I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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HBD.

Posted by: scampydog at June 10, 2024 04:04 PM (2bFN5)

14 Macron's party suffered a heavy defeat from the far-right National Rally party, while in Germany support for Olaf Scholz's center-left Social Democrats sank to a projected 14%, behind the extreme-right Alternative for Germany, which surged into second place.
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"National Rally" is the old "National Front," right?

And AfD is about as far from "extreme-right" as it can get while still being somewhere on the four-dimensional contemporary political spectrum. It's a nationalist, anti-EU, closed-border, capitalist, largely libertarian party as far as I can tell. It's basically UKIP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:04 PM (d04cU)

15 I'm far far right. I'm far out far right man.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2024 04:05 PM (FQmDC)

16 So when do the nazi comparisons begin?

What part of far right and extreme right was unclear?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:05 PM (xCA6C)

17 The Bee might be a bit too close to the truth there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 10, 2024 04:06 PM (Q4IgG)

18 Why did people in the Soviet Union never pay attention to the news???

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:07 PM (PCK5/)

19 Do you want to be Far Right or Far Wrong?

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:07 PM (Ectld)

20 "Why don't you want to live under Shari'ah? Why don't you want to be a Muslim?", asks the left.

"Because F*ck You, that's why", is the answer.

Posted by: XTC at June 10, 2024 04:07 PM (UnA8+)

21 Won’t someone rid me of these pesky voters?

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 10, 2024 04:07 PM (BVhyw)

22 The EU Parliament elections don't have anything to do (directly) with the French National Assembly, but I guess he wants a show of force against the "far-right."
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Europarl and its elections are pointless theater and most people seem to know that. The only reason to vote in one is to "send a message." Whoever is seated in Brussels or Strasbourg (depends on the seasons and the alignment of planets) has no bearing whatsoever on the operations of the European Union. Thanks to the EU's "Community Method of Legislation," it serves no purpose but a rubber stamp. It's a joke. Half of its own members don't bother showing up to work because there's no point. It's a low-stakes sinecure.

But its elections are an excuse to make displeasure known, which apparently Europeans have done. Good. Macron's spooked. Also good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:07 PM (d04cU)

23 Barbecue? Cocktail party? Blue check? Depends!

Posted by: 80's music fan at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM (1oMKu)

24 Why did people in the Soviet Union never pay attention to the news???
Posted by: tubal


"There's no truth in the News and no news in the Truth."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM (v6JzV)

25 I hope he loses, but he probably won't. As the last 15 years should have taught everyone, Le Pen's National Rally party simply does not have majority support. The NR will make it to the run-off, then lose.
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That's my bet. I'll also bet that NR and AfD pick up meaningful numbers of seats but are ultimately sent to the back bench as usual.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM (d04cU)

26 Hey! How did the people get their way?!

Posted by: Champions of Democracy at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM (krQz2)

27 Huh -- a popular party that refutes the claims made by the unpopular leftwing coalition is a "threat to democracy" and must be subverted by the intelligence agencies. Where have I heard this before?
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At this point, it's probably easier to draw up a list of where you *haven't* heard it. Across, time, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM (d04cU)

28 I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

So the drinks are on you today, right?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:09 PM (v6JzV)

29 Happy Birthday TheJamesMadison!

Posted by: washrivergal at June 10, 2024 04:09 PM (4SnFm)

30 Hickory Dickory.,,. Wrong one
Is the pendulum finally swinging right?

Posted by: TC at June 10, 2024 04:09 PM (cHOHf)

31 25 I hope he loses, but he probably won't. As the last 15 years should have taught everyone, Le Pen's National Rally party simply does not have majority support. The NR will make it to the run-off, then lose.
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That's my bet. I'll also bet that NR and AfD pick up meaningful numbers of seats but are ultimately sent to the back bench as usual.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM (d04cU)

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They'll get 40-45%, a plurality, no one will caucus with them, and it'll be a horrible cobbling of tiny parties forming a government which will collapse within a year.

There will be new elections, the "far right" parties will be blamed for everything since they are "in charge" with the most seats in the Parliament, and the Le Pen party will collapse to 20% again.

And then things get real bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

32 By "far-right" they mean "supporting limits on immigration."

Really? Because I see little evidence the Republican Party (excluding Trump), by and large, supports meaningful limits. It may be less YOLO than The Turnip, but that's about it.

Posted by: If Trump Were To Win, Bet We'd See A "Bipartisan" Immigration Proposal Hit His Desk at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (ohEAP)

33 I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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29?

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (krQz2)

34 33 I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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29?
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (krQz2)

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Almost.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

35 Meloni's solid results create a rare stability in Italian politics ...
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"Non-communists bucking a multi-decade trend of continuous establishment-left failure and instability see increased support" is bad spin, I guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (d04cU)

36 >>>They'll get 40-45%, a plurality, no one will caucus with them, and it'll be a horrible cobbling of tiny parties forming a government which will collapse within a year.

oh right this is an election for the Assembly, not the presidency. I got that wrong.

Posted by: Dee (a bitch) at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (KRtlO)

37 Meloni means bewbs in Italian.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

38 When are they going to start using AI deepfakes to cut Biden campaign commercials?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (rsqyi)

39 Happy Birthday, TJM.

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (Srw7t)

40 Happy Birthday, TJM!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (tT6L1)

41 I think the "far right" party (this is AP's term) was probably hurt by a surge in voting for Flemish separatist parties. You can imagine that voters sick of the system might skip right past the "far right" alternative and just vote for a National Divorce from the Regime.
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Belgium is on the cusp of breakup more often than it isn't. Belgium is a fake country, shoehorned together by the British and it's never been a paragon of internal harmony.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (d04cU)

42 All my life I read books about democracy, which I learned was desdained even by the Greeks who invented it, apparently.
Now it is become some sort of virtue I suppose...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (MeG8a)

43 The only way to save Democracy is to crush populism.

Posted by: ... at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (b155j)

44 🚨 Since January 6, 2021, Nancy Pelosi spent 3+ years and nearly $20 million creating a narrative to blame Donald Trump.

NEW FOOTAGE shows on January 6, Pelosi ADMITTED:

"I take responsibility."

https://x. com/OversightAdmn/status/1800207258514575730

Posted by: SMOD at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (RHGPo)

45 "Meloni's solid results"

She's been letting the invaders in, just like the rest of western Europe leaders do. She's a big disappointment. Still MILFy, but that's it.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (MvF+J)

46 33 I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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29?
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (krQz2)

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Almost.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
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After you turn 29 a dozen or so years in a row, it kind of loses its novelty...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (7fElN)

47 I love how the "populist" candidates are cast as "non-democratic".

Because giving the populace what it wants is the antithesis of democracy.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (N1tpc)

48 These 'journalists' and their word choice.
Rattled
Shaken
Suffered a jolt
Sounds more like a bad cocktail. The are predictably annoying in their never-ending slant/reporting.

Posted by: scampydog at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (2bFN5)

49 Every time the pendulum swings back to the Right anymore, it’s just just a little closer to the Left than it used to be… we are stuck in a shitty Paradigm…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (PCK5/)

50 "Down sharply" from a majority to a large plurality.

Cope and seethe, AP. Cope and seethe.

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LOL. They're not even trying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (d04cU)

51 When are they going to start using AI deepfakes to cut Biden campaign commercials?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (rsqyi)
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That's assuming they haven't already started.

Maybe they have to keep telling the AI, "Nevermind how Joe would actually say or do that!"

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (krQz2)

52 "Non-communists bucking a multi-decade trend of continuous establishment-left failure and instability see increased support" is bad spin, I guess.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (d04cU)
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I'm sure they had another 5 year plan in place but, the voters weren't patient enough for it to be implemented.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (tT6L1)

53 "Our" Democracy.

They mean permanent rule by Democrats. Their democracy, not yours or mine. They decry "populist" or "populism" - but that's what Democracy is. Mob rule, leads to license, agitation discontent. Otherwise known as Mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic.

Sound familiar? The word "Democracy" is not found in the Declaration of Independence. Nor the Constitution, nor the bill of rights.

The concept of the founding fathers was - secure individual liberties first. Then voting, in that order.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (KFGcC)

54 47 I love how the "populist" candidates are cast as "non-democratic".

Because giving the populace what it wants is the antithesis of democracy.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (N1tpc)

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Remember, democratic socialism is never tyrannical because it has democratic in its name.

But democratic republicanism is fascism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

55 Belgium is on the cusp of breakup more often than it isn't. Belgium is a fake country, shoehorned together by the British and it's never been a paragon of internal harmony.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Hmmm. Maybe I could start a running debate here, similar to crossbows v. longbows, of Flemings v. Walloons.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (v6JzV)

56 He claimed victory. I mean, he actually won, but the AP thinks his opponent won a moral victory, so he's lying when he "claims" a victory.
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"He claimed victory in a contest he won."

Incisive commentary there, AP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (d04cU)

57 "I gained a year today."

I lost a day today.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (MvF+J)

58 i corrected:

Correction: I initially wrote under the mistaken premise that Macron was calling for a presidential election. He's not. The French system has a vote for the National Assembly and an entirely separate vote for President. The NR could make gains in the Assembly.

It's the presidency I don't think they can win.


Posted by: ace at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (KRtlO)

59 The Left has managed to make "democracy" a dirty word.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (4SnFm)

60 This is a serious question:

What does populism even mean? What does it mean in etymological reality? And what is the media pretending to use it to mean (I know they are attempting to use it connotatively as a slur and devoid of denotative meaning, though I'm not sure why it should have any negative connotations).

Posted by: .87c at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (oQzCI)

61 that pitted the long-serving leader against a new challenger that has upended Orbán's grip on Hungarian politics

Indicates the hold the EU bureaucratic dictatorship has.

The EU has withheld billions of dollars of funding from Hungary, because it doesn't like Orban.

Péter Magyar, the new challenger, is running on the platform that if he is elected, the EU will release those billions of dollars to Hungary.

In other words, kiss the EU boot, and the money will start flowing again.

This strategy worked in Poland, so it is not surprising that the EU thinks they can do it again in Hungary.

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (uxCna)

62 After you turn 29 a dozen or so years in a row, it kind of loses its novelty...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 10, 2024 04:12 PM (7fElN)
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I long for the days I was only on the 12th anniversary of my 29th birthday....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

63 Huey Long was a populist…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (PCK5/)

64
>>>Belgium is a fake country

tu mens!

Posted by: Hercule Poirot at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (KRtlO)

65
Hey, happy birthday, fellow Gemini!
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 10, 2024

Yay Geminis! We are the sweetest. Until we aren’t. ☺️

Posted by: Piper at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (p4NUW)

66 gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

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Hey, happy birthday, fellow Gemini!
Posted by: Jordan61

Ditto!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (4XwPj)

67 I guess by using "Far Right" they try to make people think ... "Just like Hitler was Far Right". But Hitler was an authoritarian socialist, not "Right" at all.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (Cus5s)

68 They'll get 40-45%, a plurality, no one will caucus with them, and it'll be a horrible cobbling of tiny parties forming a government which will collapse within a year.

There will be new elections, the "far right" parties will be blamed for everything since they are "in charge" with the most seats in the Parliament, and the Le Pen party will collapse to 20% again.

And then things get real bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
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They're already real bad. They get really *exciting* a bit after that happens. In European terms, that usually means "generational war."

But time will tell in the national elections as they happen. I suspect you have the line on it, and will not choose to bet against you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (d04cU)

69 65
Hey, happy birthday, fellow Gemini!
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 10, 2024

Yay Geminis! We are the sweetest. Until we aren’t. ☺️
Posted by: Piper at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (p4NUW)

You are the best… both of you.

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (PCK5/)

70 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (d04cU)

71 Gemini are the best!

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (Srw7t)

72 Jordan Bardella running with Marine Le Pen is 28 and- not surprisingly-good with social media. I would think that would appeal to young voters:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (XkYcA)

73 "I hope he loses, but he probably won't. As the last 15 years should have taught everyone, Le Pen's National Rally party simply does not have majority support. The NR will make it to the run-off, then lose."
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Macron's party Ensemble only won 245 seats of 577 in the 2022 elections for France's National Assembly, with a leftist coalition winning 131 seats, Marine Le Pen's National Rally winning 89 seats, and the Gaullist Republican party winning 64 seats (and 48 for smaller parties). It seems unlikely that any one party will win a majority of seats in the new elections, and Ensemble could fall considerably from its current number.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (p84lk)

74 Yay Geminis! We are the sweetest. Until we aren’t. ☺️
Posted by: Piper

So you have a birthday coming up soon, Piper?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:16 PM (v6JzV)

75 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (d04cU)
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Why? Does the idea of MadamMayhem, Jordan and Piper going after you scare you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 10, 2024 04:16 PM (tT6L1)

76 Correction: I initially wrote under the mistaken premise that Macron was calling for a presidential election. He's not. The French system has a vote for the National Assembly and an entirely separate vote for President. The NR could make gains in the Assembly.

It's the presidency I don't think they can win.
Posted by: ace at June 10, 2024 04:13 PM (KRtlO)
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Right. Parliament. But I doubt NR wins the parliament, just like AfD won't win in Germany.

I don't know about France and whether the presidency actually matters or not. In Ireland, the presidency is damn near a pointless office and it's all about the Prime Minister. Not sure about France.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:16 PM (d04cU)

77 70 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:15 PM (d04cU)

Next you will be ripping on Numerology…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (PCK5/)

78 Switzerland may have provided the founders part of their model for government.

I pointed out in class that if you want Citizenship in Switzerland, one of the final hurdles - there a few - your neighbors vote on it. Now that's Democratic!

The Democrats are not truly Democratic, because deep down, they know they would get voted off the island for all the deviant underhanded shit they want to do. Everything they do is with an eye towards power, but they have to act like they are Liberals for a little while.

As someone once said, Democracy is like riding the bus, once you get to your destination you get off...

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (KFGcC)

79 >>>This is a serious question:
What does populism even mean? What does it mean in etymological reality? And what is the media pretending to use it to mean (I know they are attempting to use it connotatively as a slur and devoid of denotative meaning, though I'm not sure why it should have any negative connotations).

I think it's used to mean the politics of discontent, especially when that discontent is directed at a ruling junta which it is claimed is running the country for its own profit and for the ill of the people. Those in the Regime, of course, cannot abide this latter part. They don't mind some politics of discontent, like racial identarianism, because that program requires Managers and Bureaucrats to implement the left's demands -- that kind of discontent is bureaucrat-empowering, not bureaucrat-diminishing.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (KRtlO)

80 So.

What is the world going to do with all the immigrants? Send them back to their home shitholes?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (GiPYS)

81 I almost fell for the Babylon Bee story up top. It wasn't until they began to quote F. Joke as mumbling and groping for words, which our "press" would never do, that I tumbled to it. Good work, Bee, and Ace.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (J2vNu)

82 "Our" Democracy.

They mean permanent rule by Democrats. Their democracy, not yours or mine. They decry "populist" or "populism" - but that's what Democracy is. Mob rule, leads to license, agitation discontent. Otherwise known as Mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic.
_________________

A lynch mob is the ultimate in democracy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (YqDXo)

83 Macron probably thinks because the incumbents have name recognition, they'll still win since elections are so soon. That or his steal mechanics are good enough to be ready by ther 30th.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (1LeAx)

84 The NR could make gains in the Assembly.

Possibly - fringe parties tend to do well in the European Parliament, because the European Parliament has no real power.

The unelected European Commission has all the power.

Among other things, the European Parliament can only vote on bills proposed by the European Commission - the European Parliament has no ability to propose bills on its own.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (uxCna)

85 Steve Cortes
@CortesSteve
Watch CBS host Margaret Brennan be completely shocked and in denial about her own network’s new poll that shows 62% of all Americans support a new government program to deport all illegal aliens in our country:
“What exactly do people think they’re supporting!?”

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I know you TV "journalists" are not what's traditionally known as smart, more what's traditionally known as stupid, but even you should be able to figure this out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (L/fGl)

86 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

If you do it, you must include some drama-stirring sign in your nic. No, I don't know which that would be.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (e2k3W)

87 I long for the days I was only on the 12th anniversary of my 29th birthday....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 10, 2024 04:14 PM (tT6L1)
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You are protected by the unpopularity of Math on this board.

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (krQz2)

88 What is the world going to do with all the immigrants? Send them back to their home shitholes?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (GiPYS)
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That's what the nations of the west *should* do.

What they *will* do is embrace being colonized to shore up their demography under the short-sighted and devastatingly arrogant assumption that the "newcomers" will take up the banner of what was there before.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (d04cU)

89 7 GAINZ?

I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

Cool. I hope the year was 1994. That was a pretty good year as far as movies go, and not anything from this latest decade.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (eZILv)

90 "Next you will be ripping on Numerology…"

Or Essential Oils!

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (IHRQq)

91 88 Concur.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (MvF+J)

92 Watch CBS host Margaret Brennan be completely shocked and in denial about her own network’s new poll that shows 62% of all Americans support a new government program to deport all illegal aliens in our country:
“What exactly do people think they’re supporting!?”
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Local story.

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (krQz2)

93 I know you TV "journalists" are not what's traditionally known as smart, more what's traditionally known as stupid, but even you should be able to figure this out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (L/fGl)
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But, we have evidence which suggests otherwise.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (tT6L1)

94 Hey, happy birthday, fellow Gemini!
Posted by: Jordan61

I'm of two minds (at least!) about being a Gemini.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (WXNFJ)

95 Gemini are the best!
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech

Yes we are!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (4XwPj)

96 It's Europe. People don't work, don't wash, don't have access to quality dental care and love their NATO welfare from the US. Hopefully, Putin will nuke a few of their cities and eliminate a few muzzie rape gangs along the way.

Fuck them all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 10, 2024 04:20 PM (XRpj3)

97 What is the world going to do with all the immigrants? Send them back to their home shitholes?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 10, 2024 04:17 PM (GiPYS)
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That's what the nations of the west *should* do.

What they *will* do is embrace being colonized to shore up their demography under the short-sighted and devastatingly arrogant assumption that the "newcomers" will take up the banner of what was there before.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (d04cU)

If news of that leaked out, the UN and the usual suspects would scream "illegal."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:20 PM (0eaVi)

98 Gemini are the best!
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Yes we are!
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Nobody needs that drama in their lives.

Posted by: The Waterbearer at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (IHRQq)

99 The only way to get rid of the illegals is by force, at gunpoint, if you will. That is simply not going to happen.

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (PCK5/)

100 My limited understanding is that the EU extorted (and lawfare) Poland to open borders, combined with a propaganda program that resulted in more centrist party to winning a while back. As soon as that happened the EU released funds and Poland started to drop their "zero" policy.

So how is this election going to change things? Is it too late for Poland? Anyone know?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (IJmjy)

101 Orange Hitler is coming! Orange Hitler is coming!!

Posted by: Alexandra Occasional Cortex at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (7tUHB)

102
74 Yay Geminis! We are the sweetest. Until we aren’t. ☺️
Posted by: Piper

So you have a birthday coming up soon, Piper?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at

Just had one, May 25th. But today is also J.J’s birthday, and the kidlettes 13th birthday

Posted by: Piper at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (p4NUW)

103 Gemini are the best!
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech

Yes we are!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 10, 2024 04:19 PM (4XwPj)
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A Pollux on their houses!

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (krQz2)

104 Conservatives are always "Far right" and Loony Libs are never far left... Why is that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (Akjoo)

105 70 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Now it's a Shatner thread?

Posted by: Auspex at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (j4U/Z)

106 I guess by using "Far Right" they try to make people think ... "Just like Hitler was Far Right". But Hitler was an authoritarian socialist, not "Right" at all.
Posted by: illiniwek


Hitler himself was kind of sui generis. He certainly wasn't right-wing in the sense that he wanted to restore the Hohenzollerns or the Prussian junker nobility. And as I understand it, he went along with the truly socialist stuff in the Nazi Party platform, but didn't really much subscribe to it himself. He was mostly about his crackpot bullshit racial theories, and whatever else he could use to forward that cause, he used.

His tactics were nearly identical to those of Lenin, but I don't think that Hitler as a person can be definitely classified as either "left" or "right." He was just "Hitler."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (v6JzV)

107 Among other things, the European Parliament can only vote on bills proposed by the European Commission - the European Parliament has no ability to propose bills on its own.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:18 PM (uxCna)
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Yup. It's pointless. At least a quorum and often a majority of its own members don't bother going to work even to keep up appearances.

Boy did I piss off an Italian professor when I was in college about that. I described the EU as "undemocratic and unrepublican" and she countered with "Europarl is the largest democratically-elected body in the world." True. But it's pointless and does nothing and has no power. It can vote down shit from the Commission if it wants to, but then the Commission can just send it back until Europarl gets bored and everyone decides to go on a ski weekend, then pass it with a minority. It's preposterous. It's "democratic" window-dressing and nothing more.

She was displeased in the extreme when I explained exactly why I thought the EU system's claims of "democracy" were bunk. I don't think she expected a stupid American to have any clue about the macro-scale mechanisms of EU government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (d04cU)

108 @CortesSteve
Watch CBS host Margaret Brennan be completely shocked and in denial about her own network’s new poll that shows 62% of all Americans support a new government program to deport all illegal aliens in our country:
“What exactly do people think they’re supporting!?”
____________________

Did they use a word she didn't know?

They. Want. All. Illegal. Aliens. Deported. Bye Bye.

Got it now, Margaret?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)

109 Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

110 The only way to get rid of the illegals is by force, at gunpoint, if you will. That is simply not going to happen.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (PCK5/)

Or, you could stop giving them money and free places to live. But, the GOPe....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (0eaVi)

111 I was far right before it was cool.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (LkLld)

112 Starting to wonder if Islam was G-d's Punishment to us for being misbehaving children that couldn't live up to His standards.

Posted by: XTC at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (UnA8+)

113 I gained a year today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Happy birthday.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (d04cU)

114 Happy belated birthday to you, Piper, and timely Happy Birthday to Kidette.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (v6JzV)

115 Hitler was fascist, practically speaking.

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (PCK5/)

116 99 Concur.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:23 PM (MvF+J)

117 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!

Well if it isn’t real, why do Geminis act like that? 😂

Posted by: Piper at June 10, 2024 04:23 PM (p4NUW)

118 I also did not complete my workout today.

Just wasn't feeling it. Wasn't my vibe this morning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

119 Left/right paradigms don't make much sense, nor the circular models.

It is top down. All the authoritarian control freaks at the top, and the rest of us down in the cheap seats.

The wealthy ordinarily use the teeming poor to crush the great middle. I think American liberals are agnostic on the poor, but they fucking hate the middle class with the passion of a thousand white-hot Suns. I think it's kind of a self-loathing thing, or a death wish.

But it's transferred to others - they lack the courage - or put another way they are willing to sacrifice you and yours, to maintain a defective world view. Dalrymple put it as "Your Death, Before Their Dishonor" which encapsulates their world view nicely. You might have to die, to protect their nice delusions. See it every day.

They believe - "There is no right or wrong"

They also believe "I'm right, and you're wrong"

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:23 PM (KFGcC)

120 "Next you will be ripping on Numerology…"

Or Essential Oils!
Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight

Just don't touch climate crisis!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (L/fGl)

121 Why did people in the Soviet Union never pay attention to the news???
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"There's no truth in the News and no news in the Truth."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:08 PM


"Hey, you got your Pravda in my Izvestia!" A
"You got your Izvestia on my Pravda!"

Posted by: Chuck C at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (yOPBE)

122 "Starting to wonder if Islam was G-d's Punishment to us for being misbehaving children that couldn't live up to His standards."

The invasion of the barbarian hordes is a well documented judgement in the Bible.

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (IHRQq)

123 I also did not complete my workout today.

Just wasn't feeling it. Wasn't my vibe this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:23 PM (GBKbO)
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I did mine!

But I skipped yesterday, so it's really not an accomplishment I can use to make you feel bad...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (d04cU)

124 Orban has steadfastly refused to take the illegal hordes.

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (Srw7t)

125 118 I also did not complete my workout today.

Just wasn't feeling it. Wasn't my vibe this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

Quick, someone hire a drill sergeant to call him a worthless Nancy Boy Maggot and make implications about his sexuality until he gets his ass in the gym!

Posted by: XTC at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (UnA8+)

126 EU Parliament
EU Commission

Council of Europe control the EU.

Posted by: 13times at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (ZZR/f)

127 The only way to get rid of the illegals is by force, at gunpoint, if you will. That is simply not going to happen.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (PCK5/)
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Not true. They came here for economic opportunity and handouts. Dry those up, and they'll self-deport.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

128 "I also did not complete my workout today."

Come mow my lawn this evening, so I don't have to.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (MvF+J)

129 Strange: given a chance, the peons vote for folks who say that that they respect their countries, and don't vote for the folks that want to swamp the natives with foreign colonists.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (pJWtt)

130 I also did not complete my workout today.

Just wasn't feeling it. Wasn't my vibe this morning.


I am getting over a bout of Covid. I felt pretty good yesterday, so went out to do a little pruning in the yard. I did it for about 20 minutes, then came back in and felt like I'd run a marathon.
Today isn't much better. Sometimes, you just have to listen to your body.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (xCA6C)

131 123 I did mine!

But I skipped yesterday, so it's really not an accomplishment I can use to make you feel bad...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (d04cU)

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I did my 10 minute core, and halfway I was all, "This is bullshit."

I'll be back to it tomorrow.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

132 So how is this election going to change things? Is it too late for Poland? Anyone know?

Poland is currently accepting the masses of "migrants" that the old government had refused to take in before, purged all the conservatives from the state broadcaster, and is in the process of removing all the crucifixes located inside public buildings.

Your call.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (uxCna)

133 Democracy now is how the %51 pillage the %49

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (fwDg9)

134 I guess by using "Far Right" they try to make people think ... "Just like Hitler was Far Right". But Hitler was an authoritarian socialist, not "Right" at all.
Posted by: illiniwek

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Anybody who wasn't making moving plans to relocate in Marx's imagination was considered "right": You were against the progress of history.

It's literally the Left or Everybody Else (Right)

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (krQz2)

135 What does populism even mean? What does it mean in etymological reality? And what is the media pretending to use it to mean (I know they are attempting to use it connotatively as a slur and devoid of denotative meaning, though I'm not sure why it should have any negative connotations).
Posted by: .87c


The plain meaning is just a system of government which derives its power from the People. But, of course, it's used as a pejorative to describe rule derived from mad mobs. Which is what the Founding Fathers considered 'democracy.'

The post-modern Left has molested our language to hide their insane plans.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (IG4Id)

136 127 The only way to get rid of the illegals is by force, at gunpoint, if you will. That is simply not going to happen.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:21 PM (PCK5/)
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Not true. They came here for economic opportunity and handouts. Dry those up, and they'll self-deport.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

And that, also, will simply nevr happen.

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (PCK5/)

137 Watch CBS host Margaret Brennan be completely shocked and in denial about her own network’s new poll that shows 62% of all Americans support a new government program to deport all illegal aliens in our country:
“What exactly do people think they’re supporting!?”
____________________

Did they use a word she didn't know?

They. Want. All. Illegal. Aliens. Deported. Bye Bye.

Got it now, Margaret?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)
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Must be some.powerful koolaide to be that stupid.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:26 PM (W/lyH)

138 Not true. They came here for economic opportunity and handouts. Dry those up, and they'll self-deport.

We used to be told that the El Salvadorans were here in huge numbers because of the crime and turmoil at home. Now that's pretty much a thing of the past. How many have left?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:26 PM (xCA6C)

139 "They came here for economic opportunity and handouts. Dry those up, and they'll self-deport."

Any foreigners should not be eligible for any form of government assistance. That right there should be enough to fix our problem.

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:26 PM (IHRQq)

140 And that, also, will simply nevr happen.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:25 PM (PCK5/)

Yep. Not if we can help it.

Posted by: GOPe at June 10, 2024 04:26 PM (0eaVi)

141 "Babylon Bee" has a good headline. I wonder when Garland's goons will go into arrest them all?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2024 04:27 PM (XkYcA)

142 On their left-mainstream to far right axis socialism is not a variable. It seems to be willingness to groom and limitless aliens.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 10, 2024 04:27 PM (cOq4q)

143
The press prefix party avoids the precision readers should demand.

Specifically, the descriptions of the "right" include:

Far
Extreme
Radical
Crazy
Religious
White
Violent

An explanation of why Nazis are a peculiar type rather than just conservative would be helpful.

Posted by: Auspex at June 10, 2024 04:27 PM (j4U/Z)

144 Yeah, well Joe Biden grew up a poor, black, French child in Hungary.

So stuff that in your cap, fat!

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 10, 2024 04:27 PM (i7Q7S)

145 Not true. They came here for economic opportunity and handouts. Dry those up, and they'll self-deport.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)
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We should have never worn that provocative dress!

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (krQz2)

146 Right is right and left is sinister so there

Posted by: It's me donna at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (Akjoo)

147 96 It's Europe. People don't work, don't wash, don't have access to quality dental care and love their NATO welfare from the US. Hopefully, Putin will nuke a few of their cities and eliminate a few muzzie rape gangs along the way.

Fuck them all.


death by snusnu?

Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (sGtp+)

148 The plain meaning is just a system of government which derives its power from the People. But, of course, it's used as a pejorative to describe rule derived from mad mobs. Which is what the Founding Fathers considered 'democracy.'

Populism means government by deplorables.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (xCA6C)

149 Today must be useless poll day at RCP. Apparently Biden is up by five in Minnesota.

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (IHRQq)

150 and is in the process of removing all the crucifixes located inside public buildings.

Oh, and the new Polish foreign minister is married to rabid neo-conservative Anne Applebaum, and thanked the US for blowing up the Nordstream pipelines.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (uxCna)

151 "Any foreigners should not be eligible for any form of government assistance."

Unlikely to happen. Heck, they're gonna vote by the millions later this year.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (MvF+J)

152 "Babylon Bee" has a good headline. I wonder when Garland's goons will go into arrest them all?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2024 04:27 PM (XkYcA)
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Especially because they sound less like a satire site all the time, and seem to be doing real news.

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (krQz2)

153 Must. Resist. Temptation. To. Snark. About. Astrology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

In high school (and college), I had a crush on this extremely hot girl from my hometown. She would follow the astrology stuff, but from a psychological perspective. She maintained that if you read the personality profiles of people born under the various signs of the Zodiac, they very often were broadly accurate.

She used me as an example. I am a Scorpio, and she said that Scorpios had a tendency to be very highly sexed, which was certainly accurate in my case.

Well, duh. I was also a teenage boy, and she was as hot as all get out. A lot of other teenage boys thought she was hot, too, and I doubt that they were all Scorpios. LOL.

A very smart young woman, but come on...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)

154 I guess by using "Far Right" they try to make people think ... "Just like Hitler was Far Right". But Hitler was an authoritarian socialist, not "Right" at all.
Posted by: illiniwek


So if they consider me to be far right, they must, be definition be far left since they cannot name one centrist. And far left has as its goal, the destruction of the US.
Ok. It's clear to me.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (W/lyH)

155 Especially because they sound less like a satire site all the time, and seem to be doing real news.
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:28 PM (krQz2)
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I've been referring to it as the "Paper of Record" for years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (d04cU)

156 I once mused about writing a fiction book - Freud, Lenin, and Hitler all lived in Vienna at the same time.

Maybe they hung out at the same places and ran with the same nutbars. Freud probably didn't, or maybe he did like the "rough boys" IYKWIM.

Hitler, the anti-tobacco vegetarian with questionable ... sex drive ... socialist... He would fit in at Berkely pretty good. I pointed this out to my lefty loosey Uncle high school history professor (a WWII veteran) and he got a look on his face like he had swallowed a lemon. He already knew that, he didn't think anybody else did, apparently. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (KFGcC)

157 "Any foreigners should not be eligible for any form of government assistance."
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Unlikely to happen.
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Why? Why can't we start peeling back government assistance? It's our tax dollars. Seems like a winning plank.

Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (IHRQq)

158 Gemini are the best!
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Yes we are!
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Nobody needs that drama in their lives.
Posted by: The Waterbearer at June 10, 2024


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One half-brother, Pollux, was immortal, being the son of Zeus and Leda, and the other, Castor, was not, being the son of Leda and her mortal husband. Methinks there would have been some favoritism and sibling rivalry there. Though we're told they were inseparable throughout their lives, and Pollux asked Zeus to share his immortality with his brother. That was how they came to be the constellation Gemini.

Helen, she of the big dustup over Troy, was their sister. She too was sired by Zeus (that "swan incident"). Plenty of drama in that family, even for the Greeks. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (J2vNu)

159 The plain meaning is just a system of government which derives its power from the People. But, of course, it's used as a pejorative to describe rule derived from mad mobs. Which is what the Founding Fathers considered 'democracy.'
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Ironically, that's not what put the Nazis into power.

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (krQz2)

160 153 Well, duh. I was also a teenage boy, and she was as hot as all get out. A lot of other teenage boys thought she was hot, too, and I doubt that they were all Scorpios. LOL.

A very smart young woman, but come on...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)

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Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode about astrology is really good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

161 99 The only way to get rid of the illegals is by force, at gunpoint, if you will. That is simply not going to happen.
Posted by: tubal
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What can be done:
-Cut off all funds. No welfare for 20 years if immigrant. No SNAP, no EBT, no section 8, nothing.
-strict deportation for any lawbreaking, including driving without license, uninsured, .....
- Make them register like sex offenders with local PD, and if they don't, make it a felony.
- No int. travel. You leave the country, you can not come back in for any border jumpers or visa overstays
- No security clearance or work in secure jobs, or federal or state employment,... (right now they get jobs in government!) Cut funds to cities that employ them.


These are all reasonable controls, and the international norm, and I think most would have large majority support, except among those who want to destroy the USA.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (IJmjy)

162
123 I also did not complete my workout today.

Just wasn't feeling it. Wasn't my vibe this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with

And that is okay.

Posted by: Piper at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (p4NUW)

163 To 99% of Americans, 'Far Right' == 'Hitler.' Your taxonomic hair-splitting isn't going to convince them otherwise.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (MvF+J)

164 ... In high school (and college), I had a crush on this extremely hot girl from my hometown. She would follow the astrology stuff, but from a psychological perspective. She maintained that if you read the personality profiles of people born under the various signs of the Zodiac, they very often were broadly accurate. ...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)
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Under either a very broad or very narrow umbrella - and astrology uses *extremely* broad umbrellas - any assertion can be broadly accurate within that context.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (d04cU)

165 The fascist leader in Poland has been arresting opposition figures on bullshit charges just like Biden. Democratic? In the old Warsaw Pact sense of the word.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (ibTVg)

166 162 Just wasn't feeling it. Wasn't my vibe this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with

And that is okay.
Posted by: Piper at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (p4NUW)

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I ate a King Sized Triple Whopper meal instead!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

167 I was far right before it was cool.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 10, 2024 04:22 PM (LkLld)
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I was hoping you would see this thread, Mr. Cool.

Posted by: bluebell at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (bS+DD)

168 157 "Any foreigners should not be eligible for any form of government assistance."
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Unlikely to happen.
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Why? Why can't we start peeling back government assistance? It's our tax dollars. Seems like a winning plank.
Posted by: Ribbed - Still Straight at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (IHRQq)

I have not heard national politicians talk much about getting rid of welfare, of any sort.. seems like a taboo topic.

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

169 Mandate prison time for company management for each illegal employed.

$100,000 fine for each illegal employee.

50% tariff on all funds wired from the US to south America.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (rsqyi)

170 What can be done:

Let me add - prosecute any government bureaucrat involved with giving them aid.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (ibTVg)

171 169 Mandate prison time for company management for each illegal employed.

$100,000 fine for each illegal employee.

50% tariff on all funds wired from the US to south America.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (rsqyi)

That's a good plan

Posted by: It's me donna at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (Akjoo)

172 The Leftists on both sides of the Atlantic are reaping what they sowed. More and more people who pay taxes and want to left alone by government and media scolds are sick of the Left's ever-expanding 'Didn't Earn It' legions.

Posted by: Gref at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (5fDan)

173 We used to be told that the El Salvadorans were here in huge numbers because of the crime and turmoil at home. Now that's pretty much a thing of the past. How many have left?
Posted by: Archimedes


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More came. Now if they return with tats, they go to prison. They seek asylum from persecution. seriously.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (IJmjy)

174 A report from the Tennessee Star indicates that Audrey Hale, the 28-year-old transgender woman who shot and killed six people on March 27, 2023, bought her guns with federal Pell grant money.

... this is why they were suppressing the manifesto's release

what use are new laws when the federal government is funding the gun buy

Posted by: SMOD at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (RHGPo)

175 Anne Applebaum

Her latest article in the Atlantic is:

How “Democracy Is Losing the Propaganda War”

Applebaum reports that autocratic regimes are making common cause with MAGA Republicans to undermine liberalism and freedom around the world.

Pretty rich coming from someone who is at the center of efforts by Western intelligence agencies to engage in "information warfare" (their term) against anyone opposing the Deep State.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (uxCna)

176 "Seems like a winning plank."

You can find politicians who will run on that plank, but they won't follow through. All campaign promises expire on Inauguration Day.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (MvF+J)

177 The Leftists on both sides of the Atlantic are reaping what they sowed. More and more people who pay taxes and want to left alone by government and media scolds are sick of the Left's ever-expanding 'Didn't Earn It' legions.
Posted by: Gref at June 10, 2024 04:32 PM (5fDan)
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They are reaping power. They are not being meaningfully opposed yet, though these signals from the EU are promising.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (d04cU)

178
It's just like here and the Tea Party. The Euro Uniparties ignored and had their state-run media sneer at those most affected by their technocratic authoritarianism. They've sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (MoZTd)

179 175 How “Democracy Is Losing the Propaganda War”

Applebaum reports that autocratic regimes are making common cause with MAGA Republicans to undermine liberalism and freedom around the world.

Pretty rich coming from someone who is at the center of efforts by Western intelligence agencies to engage in "information warfare" (their term) against anyone opposing the Deep State.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (uxCna)

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How are secure borders anti-democratic?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

180 Today the Jury in Delaware found Trump Guilty on all counts on the Hunter Biden Gun Trial. Trump could face 1,000 years in GITMO if found guilty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (Mig/N)

181 Applebaum reports that autocratic regimes are making common cause with MAGA Republicans to undermine liberalism and freedom around the world.


So let me get this straight. The leftist leaders that locked people in their homes, closed churches, and forced people to take experimental gene therapies against their will are NOT the autocratic regimes in this statement?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:34 PM (ibTVg)

182 She used me as an example. I am a Scorpio, and she said that Scorpios had a tendency to be very highly sexed, which was certainly accurate in my case.

Well, duh. I was also a teenage boy, and she was as hot as all get out. A lot of other teenage boys thought she was hot, too, and I doubt that they were all Scorpios. LOL.

A very smart young woman, but come on...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)
***

'Bulgar's failed line:
Hey Sweetie, up until now your analysis has all been theoretical. Let's head to my place for a bit of, oh shall we say, lab work?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:34 PM (W/lyH)

183 The fascist leader in Poland has been arresting opposition figures on bullshit charges just like Biden. Democratic? In the old Warsaw Pact sense of the word.

Poland managed 35 years of freedom before dictatorship took over again.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:34 PM (uxCna)

184 We are between a rock and hard place on giving them assistance. What they don't have they will be more willing to steal. The government isn't so much helping them as buying them off.

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:34 PM (Srw7t)

185 ... Applebaum reports that autocratic regimes are making common cause with MAGA Republicans to undermine liberalism and freedom around the world.

Pretty rich coming from someone who is at the center of efforts by Western intelligence agencies to engage in "information warfare" (their term) against anyone opposing the Deep State.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (uxCna)
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State-sponsored propaganda in a vacuum created by a censorship regime is the height of democracy, comrade!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (d04cU)

186 As a Gemini, I always felt we got shorted on the astrological symbols. Other folks got cool signs like a bull or a scorpion; we got two guys holding hands.

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (cct0t)

187 I once mused about writing a fiction book - Freud, Lenin, and Hitler all lived in Vienna at the same time.
Posted by: Common Tater

Not Lenin, Trotsky. Stalin was there, too, for a time. Roomed with Trotsky, I believe.

Ant Tito was there, too. Worked in a factory IIRC.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (v6JzV)

188 181 So let me get this straight. The leftist leaders that locked people in their homes, closed churches, and forced people to take experimental gene therapies against their will are NOT the autocratic regimes in this statement?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:34 PM (ibTVg)

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Democracy is doing what your unelected elites demand you do without any input from your own experience or opinions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

189 I was far right before it was cool.
Posted by: JackStraw


I was far right before it was far right.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (OUMaO)

190 Getting politicians to cut budgets is hard because they derive power by using the money in their budgets.

Essentially you are asking these people to weaken themselves and it is always easy to find a reason to go back on the promises you made during the election once they are "your" dollars.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (ibTVg)

191
In high school (and college), I had a crush on this extremely hot girl from my hometown. She would follow the astrology stuff, but from a psychological perspective.

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*cough, cough* Rationalization *cough*

Well, did she go out with you?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (MoZTd)

192 This busty brunette in cutoff shorts wishes Europe's various "far-right" parties the best of luck:
http://tiny.cc/edliyz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (d04cU)

193 As a Gemini, I always felt we got shorted on the astrological symbols. Other folks got cool signs like a bull or a scorpion; we got two guys holding hands.

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (cct0t)
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Or a "II".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (hYDNe)

194 No form of politics which changed as a result of the Weimar Republic ever reverted to the form it had under the Kaiser.

The Nazis mainly kept the form of the Republic and wanted to add to that by changing the entire culture, including holidays and Churches--and not *back* to what they were in the Empire, but to a *new* alternative.

Not exactly "conservative".

Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (krQz2)

195 Some posters here have a lot of expertise which I don't have regarding Europe's fractured, opaque system of governance.

My only observation is, no matter who wins the elections in Europe, the march toward Eurabia always seems to go on uninterrupted.

Meloni won, & she hasn't been able to change this at all from what I've read, at least so far.

Posted by: mnw at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (NLIak)

196 Yeah. Anne Applebaum is a very nasty piece of work.

She wrote GULAG, then went full Soviet.

Posted by: 13times at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (ZZR/f)

197 "She would follow the astrology stuff, but from a psychological perspective."

Cripes.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (MvF+J)

198 Far right in 2024 would be called center left in 1994...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (ibTVg)

199 'Bulgar's failed line:
Hey Sweetie, up until now your analysis has all been theoretical. Let's head to my place for a bit of, oh shall we say, lab work?

Posted by: Diogenes


And pancakes and wood carvings.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (OUMaO)

200 It's the various court opinions that baked this cake.

Right to a "free and compulsory education" was one of them. Was it a state supreme court decision? I think it was in Texas. Texan taxpayers rightly said "We ain't payin' for illegals to go to school".

And the courts said yes you is. And that, as they say, was the end o that. I don't think the SCOTUS visited that one.

Truth be told, even legal migration is one huge corrupt scam of epic proportion, but the illegal migration hordes dwarf it, so nobody pays much attention to it.

The real howlers are all the people clutching to the civic nationalist magic dirt theory "Oh, I don't mind LEGAL migration!"

Or eleventy dimensional chess thinkers - the "reason" for letting in all the hordes, is they will pay for Social Security. Ya gotta be smokin' some really good shit to believe that.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (KFGcC)

201 A report from the Tennessee Star indicates that Audrey Hale, the 28-year-old transgender woman who shot and killed six people on March 27, 2023, bought her guns with federal Pell grant money.

Posted by: SMOD at June 10, 2024 04:33 PM (RHGPo)

This is an example of them getting tricksy. It used to be that trans=fake, meaning you would read this and think it was a guy pretending to be a chick. But she was a chick pretending to be a guy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (DRSnL)

202 'Bulgar's failed line:
Hey Sweetie, up until now your analysis has all been theoretical. Let's head to my place for a bit of, oh shall we say, lab work?
Posted by: Diogenes

LOL. She knew how I felt about her. But I had that "nice guy" vibe, which never did me any favors.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (v6JzV)

203 People do not like welare, or government assistance, or whatever euphemism itgoes by… unless it is what They benefit from, or stand to benefit from. That is another story altogether. We have been increasing government dependency for a long, long time now, and it would take a revolution to turn that around… I just don’t know where that revolutionary force would come from…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (PCK5/)

204 Democracy is doing what your unelected elites demand you do without any input from your own experience or opinions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)
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It's respecting your institutions, civilian!

Posted by: Admiral That's So McRavin' at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (krQz2)

205 "Meloni won, & she hasn't been able to change this at all from what I've read, at least so far."

See 176.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (MvF+J)

206 And pancakes and wood carvings.
Posted by: Brother Tim

Norwegian wood?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (v6JzV)

207 ... My only observation is, no matter who wins the elections in Europe, the march toward Eurabia always seems to go on uninterrupted. ...
Posted by: mnw at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (NLIak)
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So far, with the notable exception of Hungary. As things stress even further, the odds of an "accident" in one of the member states - unilateral withdrawal and eviction of EU enforcers, outright refusal of mandates from Brussels, forcible evictions within the country leading to a crisis of EU internal power projection (or even an outright war), etc. - go up.

Time will tell. I don't think the tank is empty yet, but American politics are more singularly powerful than in many EU countries.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:38 PM (d04cU)

208 As a Gemini, I always felt we got shorted on the astrological symbols. Other folks got cool signs like a bull or a scorpion; we got two guys holding hands.

Posted by: Toad-0


I am fortunate. As an Aquarius, I get to claim the universal sign for Bacon.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at June 10, 2024 04:38 PM (OUMaO)

209 Did we cover the recent Nazi march in South Dakota? Theylook like Feds.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 10, 2024 04:38 PM (xjTDL)

210 And pancakes and wood carvings.
Posted by: Brother Tim

Norwegian wood?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (v6JzV)
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Morning.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 10, 2024 04:38 PM (hYDNe)

211 No form of politics which changed as a result of the Weimar Republic ever reverted to the form it had under the Kaiser.

True Hitler's relations with the former Kaiser were cold. He did not want to bring the Kaiser's Empire back but to build something new based on "scientific racial socialism"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:39 PM (ibTVg)

212 Well, did she go out with you?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

We dated platonically. I was a clueless wretch around women, though, so nothing ever happened.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:39 PM (v6JzV)

213 Damn it. I came home from errands, let Val out and followed him and he started running around like a fool, just what I was trying to avoid. I calmed him down immediately and hustled him back inside but now he's coughing up blood again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:39 PM (MoZTd)

214 This leggy woman, daughter of a well-known businessman, gives you a view of additional areas of her skin

https://tinyurl.com/4252t8xe

Posted by: Not Joe Mannix at June 10, 2024 04:40 PM (5fDan)

215 During Pride Month?????????

Posted by: brak at June 10, 2024 04:40 PM (/H8L5)

216 David French pitching another sissy fit for attention. Canceled by his church or something becuz Trump??! Such a hopelessly confused "man".

Posted by: Simplemind at June 10, 2024 04:40 PM (NwukS)

217 Hadrian. Fresh blood or old?

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:41 PM (Srw7t)

218 No form of politics which changed as a result of the Weimar Republic ever reverted to the form it had under the Kaiser. ...
Posted by: Axeman at June 10, 2024 04:36 PM (krQz2)
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No, of course not. It never will and never can. Germany is one example, but there are countless others.

"Status Quo Ante" does not and never has existed. It cannot exist. The United States after the War Between the States did not revert back to pre-war practices and norms. It couldn't even if people wanted it to. Whatever comes next will always be different. The clock cannot be wound back. Not then, not now, not ever.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:41 PM (d04cU)

219 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:39 PM (MoZTd)

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Oh no!

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 10, 2024 04:41 PM (DRSnL)

220 LOL. She knew how I felt about her. But I had that "nice guy" vibe, which never did me any favors.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (v6JzV)

You should have treated her like dirt... then, bingo!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:41 PM (0eaVi)

221 David French pitching another sissy fit for attention. Canceled by his church or something becuz Trump??! Such a hopelessly confused "man".

Wait cancelled for opposing Trump or for spreading his "good word" to a teenaged boy in a skirt?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:41 PM (ibTVg)

222 Some posters here have a lot of expertise which I don't have regarding Europe's fractured, opaque system of governance.

I doubt this.

Keeping track of our own government and culture is a full time job, and we're stewing in it.

Posted by: Pretending to be Experts is Just What People Do on the Internet at June 10, 2024 04:41 PM (+RNLW)

223 OT-For some comic relief. I was not familiar with Triumph, the insult comic dog. Here he insults college students on political correctness:

https://tinyurl.com/2hbu5skf

I should have put it on the thread about clueless young voters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2024 04:42 PM (XkYcA)

224 True Hitler's relations with the former Kaiser were cold. He did not want to bring the Kaiser's Empire back but to build something new based on "scientific racial socialism"
Posted by: 18-1

Wilhelm II wrote kiss-up letters to Hitler from his exile in the Netherlands. He died after the Germans had conquered Holland, and Hitler and Goebbels mostly quashed the news, despite mucking up the funeral with Nazi paraphernalia, contrary to the Kaiser's request. The WWI general August Mackensen defied Hitler and attended the funeral.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:42 PM (v6JzV)

225 The criminal media doesn't acknowledge the existence of a far left, which makes the concept of a far right absurd. Idiots.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 10, 2024 04:42 PM (JLq/1)

226 These are all reasonable controls, and the international norm, and I think most would have large majority support, except among those who want to destroy the USA.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 10, 2024 04:30 PM (IJmjy)

I like the idea of using the 82nd Airborne, topple the government of any LatAm government, setting up a protectorate, and ship all the illegals there.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:42 PM (W/lyH)

227 Sane people will do sane things every once in awhile. Gee, guess I'm Far Right now.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (Aoykm)

228
Hadrian. Fresh blood or old?
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC

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Good question. It looks old. Not bright red. And only a small amount. Not a murder scene's worth like last week.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (MoZTd)

229 People do not like welare, or government assistance, or whatever euphemism itgoes by… unless it is what They benefit from, or stand to benefit from. That is another story altogether. We have been increasing government dependency for a long, long time now, and it would take a revolution to turn that around… I just don’t know where that revolutionary force would come from…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (PCK5/)
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Bankruptcy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (YqDXo)

230 David French pitching another sissy fit for attention. Canceled by his church or something becuz Trump??! Such a hopelessly confused "man".
Posted by: Simplemind at June 10, 2024 04:40 PM (NwukS)

I read that, but is there a story somewhere?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (0eaVi)

231 The party that wins the election is clearly anti-democracy unless that party is communist globalists.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (17s+e)

232 These idiots are " losing the propaganda war" because

What they're fighting against is people's informed opinions. Not propaganda.

The fact that their admitted counter-propaganda is, you know, actual propaganda makes everything they say look and sound phony and stupid.

Fighting against what people know and can see with their own eyes is fighting against reality itself and that will always lose. Unless ruthlessly enforced by state police thuggery.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (eDfFs)

233 This leggy woman, daughter of a well-known businessman, gives you a view of additional areas of her skin


Those are very toned legs? They look skinny to me.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:44 PM (xCA6C)

234 Fighting against what people know and can see with their own eyes is fighting against reality itself and that will always lose. Unless ruthlessly enforced by state police thuggery.

Telling people there is no inflation as they pick up things in the grocery and find they can no longer afford them? I mean the old joke about "don't believe your lying eyes" in the flesh right here.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:44 PM (ibTVg)

235 Hadrian. As long as it isn't fresh I think you are on the mend.

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:45 PM (Srw7t)

236 Thanks Ace, all. None of their purported uses stand up stand up to any scrutiny. If populism is mere mob rule--base democracy--than how can the Democrats (who are DEMOcrats not REPUBLICans in name and action) every oppose that? Why should laws or constitution get in the way of what the people want? From their perspective.

And if it means as Ace said, the politics of (widespread/cross-demographic) discontent, then its very existence indicts the current ruling system as a violation of our representative system. How can the people be so frustrated at not being represented by their government unless our representative government has failed to be representative?

I wonder how effective it is as a slur though, to the common man I mean. Are the hoi polloi offput by the populist label?

Posted by: .87c at June 10, 2024 04:45 PM (oQzCI)

237 229 People do not like welare, or government assistance, or whatever euphemism itgoes by… unless it is what They benefit from, or stand to benefit from. That is another story altogether. We have been increasing government dependency for a long, long time now, and it would take a revolution to turn that around… I just don’t know where that revolutionary force would come from…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:37 PM (PCK5/)
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Bankruptcy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 10, 2024 04:43 PM (YqDXo)

That would get the attention of the middle and upper middle class, perhaps… the bottom and top of the economic scale are immune. So, societal collapse…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:45 PM (PCK5/)

238 Joe's Ass of The Poppie open for Dexys Midnight Runners at the Romulus Club in '79.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 10, 2024 04:46 PM (HV/gM)

239 Wilhelm II wrote kiss-up letters to Hitler from his exile in the Netherlands. He died after the Germans had conquered Holland, and Hitler and Goebbels mostly quashed the news, despite mucking up the funeral with Nazi paraphernalia, contrary to the Kaiser's request. The WWI general August Mackensen defied Hitler and attended the funeral.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:42 PM (v6JzV)

He's still laying there in the Netherlands, waiting to be buried in a revivified Imperial Germany.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:46 PM (0eaVi)

240 I read an article yesterday about Sweden in crisis as violent crime from "youths" keeps increasing. Rapes, assaults, murder, theft, vandalism... and the article correctly states that this is due to mass of immigrants from the Middle East and Africa who bring their shit-hole mentality with them.

Tell that to a leftist when they argue about Sweden being a perfect society and one we should model the US after.

Posted by: Cheri at June 10, 2024 04:46 PM (oiNtH)

241 223 FWIW, the arm up Triumph's butt belongs to Robert Smigel, a far-leftist AFAIK. Funny guy though.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:46 PM (MvF+J)

242 You should have treated her like dirt... then, bingo!
Posted by: OrangeEnt

I was one of those "chivalrous" guys who tended to put women on pedestals based on their looks and/or their brains.

Led to a lot of agony in my youth. But eventually I met and married a woman who had both beauty and brains, so it worked out in the end.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

243 The criminal media doesn't acknowledge the existence of a far left, which makes the concept of a far right absurd. Idiots.
Posted by: Northernlurker at June 10, 2024 04:42 PM (JLq/1)
++++
There's "normal, good, decent people" and "extremists." That's it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (d04cU)

244 Watch CBS host Margaret Brennan be completely shocked and in denial that 62% of all Americans support a new government program to deport all illegal aliens in our country:
“What exactly do people think they’re supporting!?”
____________________
They. Want. All. Illegal. Aliens. Deported. Bye Bye.
Must be some.powerful koolaide to be that stupid.
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To be fair, she is really just worried about Paolo...

Posted by: Simplemind at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (NwukS)

245
As long as it isn't fresh I think you are on the mend.
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC

_________

Here's hoping. He's lying comfortably right now and he's bright eyed and alert. I'll have to use a leash now to get him out the door.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (MoZTd)

246 I read an article yesterday about Sweden in crisis as violent crime from "youths" keeps increasing. Rapes, assaults, murder, theft, vandalism... and the article correctly states that this is due to mass of immigrants from the Middle East and Africa who bring their shit-hole mentality with them.

Tell that to a leftist when they argue about Sweden being a perfect society and one we should model the US after.


No need. We already did it here. See Minneapolis.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (xCA6C)

247 I was one of those "chivalrous" guys who tended to put women on pedestals based on their looks and/or their brains.

Led to a lot of agony in my youth. But eventually I met and married a woman who had both beauty and brains, so it worked out in the end.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

Good.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (0eaVi)

248 He's still laying there in the Netherlands, waiting to be buried in a revivified Imperial Germany.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

I doubt that the coming German Caliphate will agree to that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:48 PM (v6JzV)

249 "unless it is what They benefit from"

Don't touch my Social Security. Don't worry, I won't need it in a few more years.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:48 PM (MvF+J)

250 So it's Far Right but Centrist Left...got it.

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farms at June 10, 2024 04:49 PM (66qcP)

251 247 I was one of those "chivalrous" guys who tended to put women on pedestals based on their looks and/or their brains.

Led to a lot of agony in my youth. But eventually I met and married a woman who had both beauty and brains, so it worked out in the end.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

That is how you get the best ones...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 10, 2024 04:49 PM (exHjb)

252 Oh boy... The G 7 is this week... More embarrassments from Joe...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 10, 2024 04:49 PM (Akjoo)

253 I doubt that the coming German Caliphate will agree to that.

The Ottomans argued that they were the legal successors to the Byzantines/Romans so you never know...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:49 PM (ibTVg)

254 236 Thanks Ace, all. None of their purported uses stand up stand up to any scrutiny. If populism is mere mob rule--base democracy--than how can the Democrats (who are DEMOcrats not REPUBLICans in name and action) every oppose that? Why should laws or constitution get in the way of what the people want? From their perspective.

And if it means as Ace said, the politics of (widespread/cross-demographic) discontent, then its very existence indicts the current ruling system as a violation of our representative system. How can the people be so frustrated at not being represented by their government unless our representative government has failed to be representative?

I wonder how effective it is as a slur though, to the common man I mean. Are the hoi polloi offput by the populist label?

Posted by: .87c at June 10, 2024 04:45 PM (oQzCI)


My Leftist Decoder Ring says:
Democracy is voting to be ruled by Your Know-it-all Betters.
Populism is voting to end the reign of Your Know-it-all Betters.

Posted by: Gref at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (5fDan)

255 187 Not Lenin, Trotsky. Stalin was there, too, for a time. Roomed with Trotsky, I believe.

kept stealing trotsky's icepick though. trotsky didn't get it back until he had pestered stalin about returning it for a long time.

Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (sGtp+)

256 I didn't know TJM and JJ shared a birthday.

Am I the first one to make that joke?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (KbCG3)

257 Was it last year that *all* sexual crimes in Norway were committed by "immigrants"?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (ibTVg)

258 I did not know that.

A xylophone and glockenspiel differ only in the material of which their bars are made.

The xylophone's bars are made of wood, while the glockenspiel's are metal plates or tubes.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (xCA6C)

259 I read an article yesterday about Sweden in crisis as violent crime from "youths" keeps increasing. Rapes, assaults, murder, theft, vandalism... and the article correctly states that this is due to mass of immigrants from the Middle East and Africa who bring their shit-hole mentality with them.

Tell that to a leftist when they argue about Sweden being a perfect society and one we should model the US after.
Posted by: Cheri at June 10, 2024 04:46 PM (oiNtH)
***

Better to give them a practical exercise by arranging transportation for them and once there, remover the bag from their heads and kick them out of the car.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (W/lyH)

260 Europeans voting "far right" is great but since Americans pay no attention to European voting, it is in no way a harbinger of what might happen over here this fall.

Posted by: Cosda at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (o9gPs)

261 David French pitching another sissy fit for attention. Canceled by his church or something becuz Trump??! Such a hopelessly confused "man".
Posted by: Simplemind at June 10, 2024 04:40 PM (NwukS)

I read that, but is there a story somewhere?
==
Morning Joe clip with Mika. Between her dilated pupils and his wet nosed lisping I thought I was watching Gollum trying to lure Frodo into the spiders cave.

Posted by: Simplemind at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (NwukS)

262 BREAKING: John Fetterman and Wife Injured in Car Crash, Hospitalized After Fetterman Slams Into Chevy Impala


I wonder if he hit a lump in the road?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (aFNOf)

263 Phrenology is the one science I still have faith in.

Posted by: Karl von Kopf at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (V5BDR)

264 The Ottomans argued that they were the legal successors to the Byzantines/Romans so you never know...
Posted by: 18-1

Well, Mehmed II, the actual conqueror of Constantinople, did. But he was a Philhellene, supposedly.

I think that sentiment died out pretty quickly among his successors.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (v6JzV)

265 Hadrian has Val's appetite improved?

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (Srw7t)

266 Ill believe there is a far right takeover in Europe when 1) the EU ceases to exist and 2) the Islamic invaders are returned to their homelands. Till then it's nice but a small first step

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (FTjSO)

267 Phrenology is the one science I still have faith in.
Posted by: Karl von Kopf at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (V5BDR)
++++
It's foolproof.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (d04cU)

268 Morning Joe clip with Mika. Between her dilated pupils and his wet nosed lisping I thought I was watching Gollum trying to lure Frodo into the spiders cave.
Posted by: Simplemind at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (NwukS)

No clicks for them. Guess I'll have to wait for another source to pick it up.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (0eaVi)

269 1/2
Unfortunately, the AfD, or Alternative für Deutschland (for Germany), is in no way merely a conversative party on the receiving end of the traditional media malpractice.

One of the AFD top candidates for the EU elections this turn around, one of the faces, is Maximilian Krah. Or was, because the AFD dumped him as even the AfD is not openly right wing enough to tolerate someone making calls to rehabilitate the reputation of the SS. That little faux pas saw the AfD kicked from the right wing EU coalition of various national far right wing parties.
He (Krah) also bucks prevailing trends for AfD politicians to literally jump into Putin pockets - Bystrom, one of the other great leading AfD lights of this lection cycle is currently one of many AfD pols needing to explain mysterious payments and/or questionable trips in realtion to Russia - but only by either in China pocket or by being very willfully blind as to who paid one of his key staff.
The current AfD, not really but refered as such by public opinion, leader Bernd (actually Björn but the weasel is infuriated by the name swap) Höcke makes a game out of using forbidden german phrases.

Posted by: DoesNotMatter at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (ovlew)

270 Telling people there is no inflation as they pick up things in the grocery and find they can no longer afford them? I mean the old joke about "don't believe your lying eyes" in the flesh right here.

Posted by: 18-1
===

They lie to us.
We know they are lying to us.
Still they lie to us.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 10, 2024 04:52 PM (17s+e)

271 Led to a lot of agony in my youth. But eventually I met and married a woman who had both beauty and brains, so it worked out in the end.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

That is how you get the best ones...
Posted by: Nova Local

Absoutely!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:53 PM (v6JzV)

272
BREAKING: John Fetterman and Wife Injured in Car Crash, Hospitalized After Fetterman Slams Into Chevy Impala

I wonder if he hit a lump in the road?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 10, 2024 04:51 PM (aFNOf)


A bad stroke of luck there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 04:53 PM (MoZTd)

273 256 I didn't know TJM and JJ shared a birthday.

Am I the first one to make that joke?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 10, 2024 04:50 PM (KbCG3)

"IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE EVERYBODY SHARES A BIRTHDAY WITH JJ!!"

- Ben R, prolly

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 10, 2024 04:53 PM (T+Iwg)

274 I got a glockenspiel in Amsterdam in the red light district one time.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 10, 2024 04:53 PM (aFNOf)

275 A Glockenspiel 17 is a nice carry gun…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:54 PM (PCK5/)

276 Telling people there is no inflation as they pick up things in the grocery and find they can no longer afford them? I mean the old joke about "don't believe your lying eyes" in the flesh right here.

Posted by: 18-1
***

I make a derisive comment about inflation and democrats every time I go to the store. And I say it aloud. No one has disagreed yet.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (W/lyH)

277 got a glockenspiel in Amsterdam in the red light district one time.
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Wait is that the one that involves a glass coffee table, or the one with the midgets?

Posted by: David French at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (NwukS)

278 I got a glockenspiel in Amsterdam in the red light district one time.

20 guilders?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (xCA6C)

279 They know We know they are lying to us.
Still they lie to us.

To humiliate us, because they hate our living guts.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (MvF+J)

280 Fetterman in a car crash?

Piss off Hillary with his support for Israel and a closed border?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 10, 2024 04:56 PM (Hkcdp)

281 278 I got a glockenspiel in Amsterdam in the red light district one time.

20 guilders?
Posted by: Archimedes


Ya.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 10, 2024 04:56 PM (aFNOf)

282 You can imagine that voters sick of the system might skip right past the "far right" alternative and just vote for a National Divorce from the Regime.

Hmmmmm

Make it Burn v Let it Burn has been settled

Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2024 04:56 PM (IFNME)

283 To humiliate us, because they hate our living guts.
Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (MvF+J)
++++
And because they hold the whips and can use them if someone doesn't pretend to believe them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:56 PM (d04cU)

284 I got a glockenspiel in Amsterdam in the red light district one time.

20 guilders?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (xCA6C)

Same as in the Marktplatz.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:56 PM (W/lyH)

285 @jimmy_dore

Congratulation to All you fucking morons who put Ukraine Flags in your profile cuz you're too stupid to figure out you're being lied to again by the War Machine. Russia is now sending hypersonic missiles to Cuba (missiles we can not protect against and missiles even the US military don't possess) along with nuclear submarines! HURRAY! you're about to get your WW3!

Posted by: JackStraw at June 10, 2024 04:57 PM (LkLld)

286 Well, Mehmed II, the actual conqueror of Constantinople, did. But he was a Philhellene, supposedly.

I saw the Netflix mini-series they did on Mehmed's war with Vlad the Impaler and they make Radu a fairly major character.

I had wondered why he was so loyal to the Ottomans and did some reading and...he had been raised as Mehmed's sex toy which I guess explained it. Mehmed was an old school lover of Greek ways I guess...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:57 PM (ibTVg)

287 mass of immigrants from the Middle East and Africa who bring their shit-hole mentality with them.

you see hopelessly inbred sub-room temperature IQ degenerates with zero impulse control and a penchant for rape and violence, and we see future doctors, engineers, or whatever, but most importantly voters -- voters who will be easily controlled with handouts and who will outbreed you and help us achieve global domination or something

Posted by: WEF at June 10, 2024 04:57 PM (AR07F)

288 In an address to the nation from the Elysee presidential palace, Macron said: "I've decided to give you back the choice of our parliamentary future through the vote. I am therefore dissolving the National Assembly."

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"We must protect 'our precious democracies' from the outcomes of elections!

-- Lefty Totalitarian Scum (BIRM thrice) everywherezzzz

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 10, 2024 04:57 PM (HV/gM)

289 Populist = Huey Long

See Also: Xenophobic, Isolationist etc.

The groundwork has been laid down for decades, roughly 100 years. They have very carefully curated the acceptable and non-acceptable labels. Nomenclature.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:58 PM (KFGcC)

290 283 To humiliate us, because they hate our living guts.
Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 04:55 PM (MvF+J)
++++
And because they hold the whips and can use them if someone doesn't pretend to believe them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 04:56 PM (d04cU)

I would imagine that their calculus is there will be no substantive pushback by the persecuted and oppressed… they can live with bitching and complaining.. is probably amusing for them.

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:58 PM (PCK5/)

291 A xylophone and glockenspiel differ only in the material of which their bars are made.

The xylophone's bars are made of wood, while the glockenspiel's are metal plates or tubes.
Posted by: Archimedes

Not sure about that. Glockenspiels are vertical, like chimes. Xylophones are horizontal. Also, I think of xylophones as metal. The wooden versions are marimbas.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (v6JzV)

292 289 Populist = Huey Long

See Also: Xenophobic, Isolationist etc.

The groundwork has been laid down for decades, roughly 100 years. They have very carefully curated the acceptable and non-acceptable labels. Nomenclature.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 04:58 PM (KFGcC)

=======

Andrew Jackson was derided similarly a hundred years before that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (GBKbO)

293
I make a derisive comment about inflation and democrats every time I go to the store. And I say it aloud. No one has disagreed yet.


I had one woman ask me "This inflation has to stop at some point right?" I told her. loudly, why would it - the people benefiting from it are still running the country and noticed some nods from fellow shoppers.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (ibTVg)

294 @jimmy_dore

Congratulation to All you fucking morons who put Ukraine Flags in your profile cuz you're too stupid to figure out you're being lied to again by the War Machine. Russia is now sending hypersonic missiles to Cuba (missiles we can not protect against and missiles even the US military don't possess) along with nuclear submarines! HURRAY! you're about to get your WW3!
Posted by: JackStraw at June 10, 2024 04:57 PM (LkLld
***

Did I not say just last week after Biden approved the use of American weapons to attack Russia, "Watch Cuba."?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (W/lyH)

295 The glockenspiel typically has fewer notes, and is higher pitched (15ma). There are 2 types, the flat kind and the marching kind, which is sometimes called a Lyre.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (MeG8a)

296 293 I had one woman ask me "This inflation has to stop at some point right?" I told her. loudly, why would it - the people benefiting from it are still running the country and noticed some nods from fellow shoppers.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (ibTVg)

=======

Yes. When we reach Zimbabwe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (GBKbO)

297 their calculus is there will be no substantive pushback by the persecuted and oppressed… they can live with bitching and complaining.. is probably amusing for them.
===
Let them eat cake *titters*

Posted by: Dr. JILL at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (NwukS)

298 I would imagine that their calculus is there will be no substantive pushback by the persecuted and oppressed… they can live with bitching and complaining.. is probably amusing for them.
Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 04:58 PM (PCK5/)
++++
Surely. And so far, that's been a good bet. It remains a good bet until the nanosecond it isn't. Then it blows up. Systems immune to reform are immune to survival.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (d04cU)

299 290 Concur.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (MvF+J)

300 The xylophone's bars are made of wood, while the glockenspiel's are metal plates or tubes.
Posted by: Archimedes

Not sure about that. Glockenspiels are vertical, like chimes. Xylophones are horizontal. Also, I think of xylophones as metal. The wooden versions are marimbas.


It's Wiki. It's bona fide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glockenspiel

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (xCA6C)

301 Germany has ruled the AfD a threat to democracy and its spy agencies claim a right to surveil the party and interfere in elections.

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[Take 2:] "We must protect 'our precious democracies' from the outcomes of elections!

-- Lefty Totalitarian Scum (BIRM thrice) everywherezzzz

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (HV/gM)

302 It would be darkly amusing if America's left wing urban problem was resolved by Biden provoking a nuclear exchange with Vlad.

All those twitter/reddit/FB posters urging Biden to nuke Vlad to save "democracy" getting exactly what they are asking for as their cities get turned into parking lots...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 05:01 PM (ibTVg)

303 David French pitching another sissy fit for attention. Canceled by his church or something becuz Trump??! Such a hopelessly confused "man".
Posted by: Simplemind


He quit in a big stink years ago because they were 'full of Confederates' and racisty mcracists. This year the church planned a conference and someone invited him. Twitter writers pointed out the idiocy of inviting him, they dis-invited him, and he used his NYT column to play the victim again.

Oh, and the panel he was set to be on was titled "How to Be Supportive of Your Pastor and Church Leaders in a Polarized Political Year." Get that? "You need to bow down to us." How Christian.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 10, 2024 05:01 PM (IG4Id)

304 Remember in the 2020 election Biden opined publicly he didn't need moderate voters.

But...81M votes right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (ibTVg)

305 I had one woman ask me "This inflation has to stop at some point right?" I told her. loudly, why would it - the people benefiting from it are still running the country and noticed some nods from fellow shoppers.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 04:59 PM (ibTVg)
***

When I get told its the fault of the manufacturers, I just laugh and say, "No, it is not. You are confusing Supply and Demand with Inflation."
That's when they wander off.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (W/lyH)

306 Let them eat cake *titters*
Posted by: Dr. JILL at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (NwukS)


I didn't realize cake titters were an option but with Dr Jill Hell No!

Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (IFNME)

307 Where does the US make its tanks? Move away.

Posted by: Hypersonic missile command at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (NwukS)

308 "All those twitter/reddit/FB posters urging Biden to nuke Vlad to save "democracy" getting exactly what they are asking for as their cities get turned into parking lots..."

That means that WE ALSO get what THEY are asking for.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (MvF+J)

309 Diogenes. Yes you did

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (Srw7t)

310 If some war starts against Russia I put at least part of it on Hildabeast rhetoric

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2024 05:02 PM (fwDg9)

311 >>Where does the US make its tanks? Move away.

I know where they make nuclear subs. Right over there.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (LkLld)

312 Tell that to a leftist when they argue about Sweden being a perfect society and one we should model the US after.
Posted by: Cheri at June 10, 2024 04:46 PM

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It's a shame, because in the last 20 years or so Sweden has dialed down a lot of their economic socialism and in some.ways has a freer economy than the US. But they haven't shaken off the social liberal mindset yet.

Posted by: Bigsmith at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (8koAw)

313 Everyone in Europe is a racist hater!!

Posted by: Brihana Joy Gray at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (JfgVN)

314 Could America fight a two “ front” war now???

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (PCK5/)

315 2/2
These phrases were used by various organization and banned due to deep association of various aspects of the Holocaust, think "Arbeit macht frei".
Bernd likes to use them and then claim ignorance as to the history of the phrase. Weaselboy is a historian.

As to Krah? Got kicked ot the AfD EU delegation.

Do not use the AfD as some shining beacon of conversative resurgency in the EU / Germany. Whatever the AfD started out as, a debate for another time, it got infected early on by various actual nazis who are now wearing it like a skinsuit.

And that is ignoring the former AfD delegate currently on trial for participating in the attempted Reichsbürger* coup.

*Their kind is known as sovereign citiziens in the US, as far as overall behavior goes very similar.

Posted by: DoesNotMatter at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (ovlew)

316 That means that WE ALSO get what THEY are asking for.

Yes that is the problem isn't it? I don't think I'm in the immediate blast radius of anything the Russians might want to hit but...I don't want to live Fallout '24 either.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (ibTVg)

317
With my luck and Russian craftsmanship, Vlad will lob one at DC and hit my house instead.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 05:04 PM (MoZTd)

318 311 >>Where does the US make its tanks? Move away.

I know where they make nuclear subs. Right over there.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 10, 2024 05:03 PM (LkLld)

=======

There's a portrait on the wall of Oliver Hazard Perry in courtroom of William Friedkin's The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 10, 2024 05:04 PM (GBKbO)

319 Right to a "free and compulsory education" was one of them. Was it a state supreme court decision? I think it was in Texas. Texan taxpayers rightly said "We ain't payin' for illegals to go to school".

And the courts said yes you is. And that, as they say, was the end o that. I don't think the SCOTUS visited that one."

Plyler vs Doe, 1982, Supreme Court Decision. States have to pay to send illegal alien kids to school.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 10, 2024 05:04 PM (wyMQY)

320 Mayor Bowser of DC announces she is proud that it's the gayest city in the world.

No. Really.

Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2024 05:04 PM (IFNME)

321 Could America fight a two “ front” war now???

America hasn't won a one front war since 1991...and that was a pretty restrained victory.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 10, 2024 05:04 PM (ibTVg)

322 320 Mayor Bowser of DC announces she is proud that it's the gayest city in the world.

Hurrah for perversion !

Posted by: It's me donna at June 10, 2024 05:05 PM (Akjoo)

323 Mayor Bowser of DC announces she is proud that it's the gayest city in the world.

No. Really.


San Fran would like a word.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 05:05 PM (xCA6C)

324 320 Mayor Bowser of DC announces she is proud that it's the gayest city in the world.

No. Really.
Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2024 05:04 PM (IFNME)

She forgot to include the violent and murderous part tho’…

Posted by: tubal at June 10, 2024 05:05 PM (PCK5/)

325
With my luck and Russian craftsmanship, Vlad will lob one at DC and hit my house instead.


Quantity has its own quality you know?

Posted by: Vlad Putin not worrying about just how accurate his nukes are at June 10, 2024 05:05 PM (ibTVg)

326 OMG nooooooo!

Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe Claims Top FBI Officials Preparing to Flee U.S. if Trump Wins

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (L/fGl)

327 Where does the US make its tanks? Move away.

I think they use Alibaba now. They're no longer Prime on Amazon so DoD switched.

Posted by: brak at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (AR07F)

328 tubal, we can't fight a one front war. We missed over 2/3 of the missiles Iran fired at Israel

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (Srw7t)

329 306 Let them eat cake *titters*
Posted by: Dr. JILL at June 10, 2024 05:00 PM (NwukS)

I didn't realize cake titters were an option but with Dr Jill Hell No!


cake titter = hostess snowball with a hershey's kiss on top?

Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (sGtp+)

330 "I don't want to live Fallout '24 either."

It's not just fallout. It's the complete breakdown of society. Banking, supply chains, comms, LE. Everything. Any of you guys with fortified redoubts out in the sticks think you can survive off the grid, you'll find out different.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (MvF+J)

331
Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe Claims Top FBI Officials Preparing to Flee U.S. if Trump Wins
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (L/fGl)

__________

The guilty flee when none pursueth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 05:07 PM (MoZTd)

332 Bowser of DC announces she is proud that it's the gayest city in the world.
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Proud of being the gayest seems redundant.

Posted by: priDEMONth at June 10, 2024 05:07 PM (NwukS)

333 you see hopelessly inbred sub-room temperature IQ degenerates with zero impulse control and a penchant for rape and violence, and we see future doctors, engineers, or whatever, but most importantly voters -- voters who will be easily controlled with handouts and who will outbreed you and help us achieve global domination or something
Posted by: WEF at June 10, 2024 04:57 PM (AR07F)
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Kind of weird to be importing a bunch of breeders when you are hellbent on human extinction....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (7fElN)

334 Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe Claims Top FBI Officials Preparing to Flee U.S. if Trump Wins
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (L/fGl)


I wonder why these assholes keep saying this stuff? It makes them look both guilty, and like wimps.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (W/lyH)

335 Apparently Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 is well underway.
Russian warships are docking in Cuba and are setting up operations.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (MeG8a)

336 Don't tease me Andy, I was already voting for him anyway

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (KFGcC)

337 It's Nazis and Fascists everywhere we look.

Posted by: Reuters and AP at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (VuZH8)

338 In (Unnamed Country) while drinking myself stupid on a porch a visitor made some crack about me being a Fascist and my host went into the house and brought out a bottle, poured us all too much booze, and then stuck a gun in the guys mouth and forced him to mumble an apology to me.

Posted by: LenNeal at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (43xH1)

339 OMG nooooooo!

Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe Claims Top FBI Officials Preparing to Flee U.S. if Trump Wins
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (L/fGl)

What a crybaby pussy he is. His panties must be in a wad

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 10, 2024 05:09 PM (NtVYv)

340 Ukraine and the Kinzhal: Don’t believe the hypersonic hype

On May 4, 2023, Ukraine used a U.S.-supplied Patriot battery to down a Russian Kinzhal missile, which Russian President Vladimir Putin had announced in 2018 was a “hypersonic” weapon that could overcome all existing air defense systems. Russia’s state news agency tried to maintain this claim by arguing that the shootdown was a fake report. Yet just 12 days afterward, Ukraine shot down six Kinzhals that Russia fired in an assault on Kyiv. Both shootdowns have been verified by U.S. government sources. Is this story, in which a Cold War-era defense system defeated one of Russia’s most advanced conventional systems, a sign that the hypersonic hype bubble has finally burst?

https://tinyurl.com/mr83adez

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 05:09 PM (xCA6C)

341
Russian warships are docking in Cuba and are setting up operations.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

_________

Mr. Monroe to the courtesy phone please, Mr. James Monroe.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 10, 2024 05:09 PM (MoZTd)

342 "Apparently Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 is well underway.
Russian warships are docking in Cuba and are setting up operations."

Exactly what Biden's puppeteers want: to make him War President. Can't change horses in midstream. They will get us all killed.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at June 10, 2024 05:09 PM (MvF+J)

343 The top echelons of CIA and DOJ should be seeking refuge elsewhere.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 10, 2024 05:10 PM (VuZH8)

344 Maybe the Russians will bring the Cubans some food and medicine

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 10, 2024 05:10 PM (Srw7t)

345 Nood laptop

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 10, 2024 05:10 PM (e2k3W)

346 Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe Claims Top FBI Officials Preparing to Flee U.S. if Trump Wins
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 10, 2024 05:06 PM (L/fGl)

Then they forfeit their pensions and healthcare plans.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 10, 2024 05:11 PM (gU5fc)

347 Kind of weird to be importing a bunch of breeders when you are hellbent on human extinction....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel'

Any Home Center by me is stacked with smoking little Mexican girls. And not horror-show Cholas either, respectable women.

Posted by: LenNeal at June 10, 2024 05:11 PM (43xH1)

348 They will get us all killed
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: US State dept at June 10, 2024 05:11 PM (NwukS)

349 None of it adds up to their own propaganda. It's all schizophrenic.

Why import sub literate peasants, by the millions, and then publish stories about Robotics taking away all the unskilled labor jobs that used to formerly provide decent jobs (and a dignified life)

Why express concern about "the environment" here in the US? Don't millions and millions of people cause resource depletion and pollution?

Watch what they say, not what they do - and it becomes clear everything they say is bullshit.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 10, 2024 05:11 PM (KFGcC)

350 Russian warships are docking in Cuba and are setting up operations.
Posted by: gourmand du jour


Anyone got a link for this? The Russian navy regularly docks in Cuba. What do we really know that is different?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 05:12 PM (W/lyH)

351 I wonder why these assholes keep saying this stuff? It makes them look both guilty, and like wimps.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 05:08 PM (W/lyH)

They are the beginning of generations of Americans who never got punched in the nose on the playground, never got into bar fights in college, never defended themselves against...anything.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 10, 2024 05:13 PM (d9fT1)

352 They are the beginning of generations of Americans who never got punched in the nose on the playground, never got into bar fights in college, never defended themselves against...anything.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 10, 2024 05:13 PM (d9fT1)


Concur.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2024 05:13 PM (W/lyH)

353 Justice Alito is under yet another attack, this time from Rolling Stone.

Some Karen, Lauren Windsor by name, secretly recorded a Q & A with him, where she pretended to care about America, asking him how the left could be dealt with. He responded in a neutral way, saying the two political sides probably aren't in a mood to compromise.

Windsor presents her secret tape as if Alito is responding as a moron of the horde, and Rolling Stone is Wah-Wah-Wahing about him all anew.

Evil people. Secret recordings. Mis-stated words. It all sounds very TDS, now extended to Alito.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 10, 2024 05:13 PM (AizHY)

354 I got banned from twitter. I responded to the tweet about De Niro wanting to punch Trump with "I would like to kick De Niro in the balls. But he is so short that I would probably hit his head."

I appealed the ban saying "It was a joke. Men of his stature are in short supply."

I remain banned. Fuck em.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 10, 2024 05:13 PM (VuZH8)

355 37 Meloni means bewbs in Italian.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2024 04:11 PM (v0R5T)
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Well, melons actually but is also slang for bewbs as in English.

Posted by: Ciampino - Mon Update #05 at June 10, 2024 05:14 PM (qfLjt)

356 Oh my. When Rolling Stone comes after you, you are in big trouble, mister.

LOL

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 10, 2024 05:14 PM (VuZH8)

357 193 As a Gemini, I always felt we got shorted on the astrological symbols. Other folks got cool signs like a bull or a scorpion; we got two guys holding hands.

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 10, 2024 04:35 PM

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I remember some humorist joked that he used to write the horoscope for the local newspaper, and at one point he randomly decided to start writing terrible forecasts under Capricorn. He said the publisher started asking why the paper's readership had suddenly collapsed by one-twelfth.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 10, 2024 05:15 PM (wzAuc)

358 Just do a search on Russian warships or war games in the Caribbean. About a hundred links come up.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 10, 2024 05:18 PM (MeG8a)

359 350 Russian warships are docking in Cuba and are setting up operations.
Posted by: gourmand du jour


Anyone got a link for this? The Russian navy regularly docks in Cuba. What do we really know that is different?


pretty sure i saw something about russia announcing they would be doing exercises in the carribean recently.

Posted by: anachronda at June 10, 2024 05:21 PM (sGtp+)

360 Just do a search on Russian warships or war games in the Caribbean. About a hundred links come up.

The question was what was new.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 10, 2024 05:23 PM (xCA6C)

361 What's new?
Hypersonic missiles.
For which we have no defense, last I've read about them.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 10, 2024 05:31 PM (MeG8a)

362
Any of you guys with fortified redoubts out in the sticks think you can survive off the grid, you'll find out different.

I'll ask the old man in the cave what to do.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 10, 2024 05:33 PM (63Dwl)

363 This is a battle between populists and elites. Elites spend their time worrying and fussing over non-issues, DEI, climate change, racism, pronouns, making us eat bugs, etc. and the people worry about actual issues - immigration, war, inflation, energy costs, etc.

Everything not elite is declared "far right".

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 10, 2024 05:37 PM (nLFEI)

364 I honestly wondered exactly what the Babylon Bee article asked. Doesn't Europe even have a Deep State that can say Fuck You to the people like ours routinely does?

I seriously wondered this.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 10, 2024 06:00 PM (iRX3h)

365 Euro Jews are a lot more afraid of the right wing Christians than the 5% of the population that are rightwing Muslims.
The "populist" (as Ace calls him) leader of Hungary eas silent when another member of his party called for registering all Jews in Hungary as a matter of national security.

Posted by: Paul banned at June 10, 2024 06:56 PM (rTHA4)

366 Euro Jews are a lot more afraid of the right wing Christians than the 5% of the population that are rightwing Muslims.
The "populist" (as Ace calls him) leader of Hungary eas silent when another member of his party called for registering all Jews in Hungary as a matter of national security.
Posted by: Paul banned at June 10, 2024 06:56 PM (rTHA4)
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They'd be rather foolish then.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 10, 2024 09:13 PM (UVyKP)

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Posted by: audience at June 11, 2024 03:39 AM (UWbFD)

368 Right so far!

Posted by: rechill at June 11, 2024 02:37 PM (Q1LXu)

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