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Unemployment Rises as Americans Lose Jobs to Foreign "Newcomers"
At 4%, the claimed unemployment rate is still low. But it's rising. The claim about Americans losing jobs to illegal "newcomers" isn't just supposition. It's right there in the numbers.The latest Bureau of Labor Statistics report revealed a rise in unemployment to 4.0%, highlighting continued economic struggles under the Biden administration. Significant job losses for native-born workers and gains for foreign-born workers, including illegal immigrants, paint a concerning picture for the American workforce. Key Details: The unemployment rate increased to 4.0% in May, up from 3.9% in April, highlighting ongoing economic instability under President Biden's leadership. Native-born Americans saw a significant decline in employment, losing 663,000 jobs, while foreign-born workers, including illegal immigrants, gained 414,000 jobs. The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta recently revised its GDP growth estimate down from 4.2% to 1.8%, reflecting slowing economic activity and reduced consumer spending as inflation remains steady and prices continue to rise.In the socialist utopia of Califoreign, ten thousand jobs have been lost in the fast food industry alone since the minimum wage was jacked up to $20/hour.
California's recent minimum wage hike to $20 per hour has resulted in nearly 10,000 job cuts across the state's fast food sector, according to a major trade group. The California Business and Industrial Alliance (CABIA) criticized Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom for implementing the law, which took effect on April 1. Tom Manzo, president and founder of CABIA, highlighted the adverse impacts on businesses, including closures and increased prices, in an interview with Fox Business. One notable casualty is Rubio's California Grill, a popular taco chain that shuttered 48 of its 134 locations in late May, citing the rising cost of doing business in the state. The San Diego-based company filed for bankruptcy shortly afterward. Similarly, a Fosters Freeze location near Fresno closed due to the inability to sustain the upgraded wages. Fast food giants like McDonald's, Burger King, and In-N-Out Burger have responded to the wage hike by raising prices. For example, McDonald's has increased the cost of its Quarter Pounder and Double Quarter Pounder burgers, while Taco Bell raised menu prices by 3%. These price adjustments come amid already high inflation, making fast food meals significantly more expensive for consumers. A LendingTree survey revealed that 78% of consumers now view fast food as a "luxury" purchase.This story from January "resurfaced" on social media: Gen Zers are "bringing their whole selves" to job interviews, and by "whole selves," I mean they're bringing their parents. Or 20% are, at least. And word has gotten out about the Failure Factories we call "colleges" -- employers don't want to hire recent college graduates.
Helicopter parenting has reached a new level. Employers are going above and beyond to not hire recent college graduates in favor of older workers, a new survey found. The survey uncovered many reasons why older applicants are preferred -- including that Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews. In December, Intelligent, an online magazine focused on student life, surveyed 800 managers, directors and executives involved in the hiring process. It found that 39% of employers actively avoid hiring recent college graduates for roles they're qualified for. Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview. But that's not the only aspect stopping employers from hiring Gen Z applicants. One in five employers say that recent college graduates are "unprepared" for interviews -- and are often unprofessional. Fifty-three percent of employers surveyed said that recent college graduates struggle with eye contact, 50% said they ask for unreasonable compensation, 47% said they don't dress appropriately for interviews, and 21% said they refuse to turn their cameras on for virtual interviews.That can't all be due to covid; these people were locked down fairly late in their young lives. It's all very worrying: society is churning out broken, fearful people. And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
Additionally, 63% of those involved in hiring claimed tht recent college grads can't manage their workload, 61% said they are frequently late to work, 59% claimed they often miss deadlines, and 53% noted that they are frequently late to meetings. Employers aren't exactly fans of Gen Z's attitudes, either. Fifty-eight percent said Gen Z jobseekers get offended too easily and are unprepared for the workforce in general, 63% said they are entitled, 57% believed they lack professionalism, 55% said they don't respond well to constructive feedback, and 52% claimed they have poor communication skills. Of those surveyed, 47% admitted that they had fired a recent college graduate. Meanwhile, employers are pursuing great lengths to avoid hiring a recent graduate, including offering more benefits for older employees (60%), paying higher salaries to older employees (59%), allowing older workers to work remotely or in a hybrid environment (48%) and hiring older employees for roles they're overqualified for (46%).
CNBC admits jobs are going to illegal immigrants, not Americans in the Biden economy. "There's an immigration piece of this, there are bodies available and there is work for them to do. Whether or not, they're here legally or not is a different story." pic.twitter.com/dMU40Jhy7c
— Alex Pfeiffer (@__Pfeiffer) June 7, 2024
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The claim about Americans losing jobs to illegal "newcomers" isn't just supposition. It's right there in the numbers.
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But the labor market is so strong that we *need* illegals to shore up the numbers. That's what they said, right?
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But the labor market is so strong that we *need* illegals to shore up the numbers. That's what they said, right?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:13 PM (d04cU)
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Morning, Morons.
Posted by: ballistic at June 07, 2024 12:14 PM (oqH4h)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:14 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:15 PM (MoZTd)
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READ THE CONTENT... like a noob.
Posted by: Inogame at June 07, 2024 12:15 PM (53oGX)
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no insult meant to any of our mob but people who work in human resources are among the most dishonest people i've ever dealt with.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 07, 2024 12:16 PM (B1FKF)
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Wish you were coming....
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:14 PM (t/2Uw)
That's what she said...
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:14 PM (t/2Uw)
That's what she said...
Posted by: That's what she said guy at June 07, 2024 12:16 PM (53oGX)
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I'm assuming layers of lies here, so I also doubt the jobs numbers
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 07, 2024 12:16 PM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
Hey, Sharon. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, and having you meet my lovely wife.
Hey, Sharon. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, and having you meet my lovely wife.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 12:17 PM (v6JzV)
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This isn't illegals "doing the jobs Americans won't do". Americans were doing these jobs until they got fired so cheaper illegals could be hired. It's infuriating.
Posted by: spongeworthy at June 07, 2024 12:17 PM (DWqKI)
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no wonder all my neighbors can afford to hire people to do their yard work.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 07, 2024 12:17 PM (B1FKF)
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Called 'em.
*waits for treat*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Your Lena Dunham nude calendar is in the mail.
*waits for treat*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Your Lena Dunham nude calendar is in the mail.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (v6JzV)
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Remember the INTENT from a good dead of the unlimited immigration crowd is to bring salaries down. They've said for years Americans want too much money to work.
And...if there was an opposition party its something they would talk about
And...if there was an opposition party its something they would talk about
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (ibTVg)
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (krQz2)
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"Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview."
That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Possibly this high number is because in some jurisdictions parents must accompany minors on interviews. That wasn't true when I interviewed for my first job -- as a dishwasher -- at 16. But today? Maybe.
That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Possibly this high number is because in some jurisdictions parents must accompany minors on interviews. That wasn't true when I interviewed for my first job -- as a dishwasher -- at 16. But today? Maybe.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
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Here is my HR statement du jour: there is no such thing as over qualified. If you meet the minimum qualifications, that is all that matters. You are qualified.
On that note, I am going to go work out. ☺️
On that note, I am going to go work out. ☺️
Posted by: Piper at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (aT5K/)
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Bidenomics, now with more Brando!
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (tmgMU)
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California's recent minimum wage hike to $20 per hour has resulted in nearly 10,000 job cuts across the state's fast food sector, according to a major trade group.
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After thinking about this for some time, I think that this kind of thing is *also* due to the open border.
Fast food and similar pay low because they don't need to pay high. It's unskilled labor with a very shallow learning curve and is also the kind of work that's great for a bit of pocket money and some experience. This is why those jobs used to be done by teenagers, housewives looking for some coin while the kids are at school, or retirees who are bored or could use pocket money. That's what these kinds of jobs are *for.* No teenager needs $20/hour, and can't command those wages.
But there are two kinds of people who *do* need those kinds of wages. Lucia, the illegal alien with three anchor babies needs that kind of wage. Tony the displaced roofer needs those kinds of wages, too. The *only* reason there is demand for these kinds of wages from these kinds of jobs is because of major dislocation and job scarcity resulting from the open border.
Dunno if it's right, but I think it might be.
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After thinking about this for some time, I think that this kind of thing is *also* due to the open border.
Fast food and similar pay low because they don't need to pay high. It's unskilled labor with a very shallow learning curve and is also the kind of work that's great for a bit of pocket money and some experience. This is why those jobs used to be done by teenagers, housewives looking for some coin while the kids are at school, or retirees who are bored or could use pocket money. That's what these kinds of jobs are *for.* No teenager needs $20/hour, and can't command those wages.
But there are two kinds of people who *do* need those kinds of wages. Lucia, the illegal alien with three anchor babies needs that kind of wage. Tony the displaced roofer needs those kinds of wages, too. The *only* reason there is demand for these kinds of wages from these kinds of jobs is because of major dislocation and job scarcity resulting from the open border.
Dunno if it's right, but I think it might be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (d04cU)
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people who work in human resources are among the most dishonest people i've ever dealt with.
Posted by: gnats local 678
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Little kapos for whatever evil management thinks of. They're not your friends, they're not there to help you, they're there to do the C-Suite's bidding.
people who work in human resources are among the most dishonest people i've ever dealt with.
Posted by: gnats local 678
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Little kapos for whatever evil management thinks of. They're not your friends, they're not there to help you, they're there to do the C-Suite's bidding.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:19 PM (MoZTd)
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Didn't South Park have an episode about "newcomers" from the future that "TOOK UR JERBS!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
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And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
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I don't know how it works at law firms, but if there's one thing that I'm glad that Gen Z is killing it's the expectation that four people will do the amount of work that should be done by eight, sacrificing their nights and weekends, social life and time with their family just to eke out a living.
If I'm working 80 hours a week, I'm going to need a lot more money than you're probably willing to pay me. If your employees are otherwise competent but are frequently putting in long hours, you need to suck it up and hire more people, or take on less work.
As the old saying goes, the only people who will remember all those late nights you worked are your family.
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I don't know how it works at law firms, but if there's one thing that I'm glad that Gen Z is killing it's the expectation that four people will do the amount of work that should be done by eight, sacrificing their nights and weekends, social life and time with their family just to eke out a living.
If I'm working 80 hours a week, I'm going to need a lot more money than you're probably willing to pay me. If your employees are otherwise competent but are frequently putting in long hours, you need to suck it up and hire more people, or take on less work.
As the old saying goes, the only people who will remember all those late nights you worked are your family.
Posted by: ballistic at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (oqH4h)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (9UJHz)
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This isn't illegals "doing the jobs Americans won't do". Americans were doing these jobs until they got fired so cheaper illegals could be hired. It's infuriating.
Posted by: spongeworthy at June 07, 2024 12:17 PM (DWqKI)
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In my teens, the only source of income that was truly mine was picking blueberries.
I never could keep up with the migrants, though.
Here's the thing. A lot of migrants were in those fields--but you saw plenty of white Americans out there as well.
"Jobs Americans won't do" for some definitions of "won't".
Posted by: spongeworthy at June 07, 2024 12:17 PM (DWqKI)
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In my teens, the only source of income that was truly mine was picking blueberries.
I never could keep up with the migrants, though.
Here's the thing. A lot of migrants were in those fields--but you saw plenty of white Americans out there as well.
"Jobs Americans won't do" for some definitions of "won't".
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (krQz2)
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That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
I completely believe it, and even that it's low.
Watch the YouTube "Police Pursuits" channel, that's (almost) all Arkansas State Police video. To a man, every perp immediately demands to call their mother or grandmother as soon as they realize that "I can't breathe" isn't working.
I completely believe it, and even that it's low.
Watch the YouTube "Police Pursuits" channel, that's (almost) all Arkansas State Police video. To a man, every perp immediately demands to call their mother or grandmother as soon as they realize that "I can't breathe" isn't working.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (2ocoG)
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I will say this about immigrants, at least the once I work with in the tech fields...they aren't always good at their jobs but at least they show up and try or make a show of trying.
If I have to choose between working with an Indian new hire or a Zoomer....I'm going India.
If I have to choose between working with an Indian new hire or a Zoomer....I'm going India.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (xcxpd)
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20 Didn't South Park have an episode about "newcomers" from the future that "TOOK UR JERBS!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
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Goobacks, man. I hate Goobacks.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
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Goobacks, man. I hate Goobacks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
You should do the job that you are paid to do but...it is also interesting that with serious increases in productivity over the last 60 years real jobs still are 40+ hours a week, and ones that you spend decades at.
And the answer to this? The government has eaten up all those increases in productivity...
You should do the job that you are paid to do but...it is also interesting that with serious increases in productivity over the last 60 years real jobs still are 40+ hours a week, and ones that you spend decades at.
And the answer to this? The government has eaten up all those increases in productivity...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (ibTVg)
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"Fire One Million" The Fifth Element
Posted by: illiniwek at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (MoZTd)
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I wonder what percent of THOTs offered blowjobs if they got the job? It worked for Kamala Harris!
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (iFTx/)
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Again, we are adding millions of people every couple of months without respite, this is literally going to swamp the system.
I get that the entire world order is predicated around growth, but this growth and the method they are going about it is unsustainable and will ultimately destroy everything.
These people are f**king lunatics.
I get that the entire world order is predicated around growth, but this growth and the method they are going about it is unsustainable and will ultimately destroy everything.
These people are f**king lunatics.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (XV/Pl)
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TBF, it doesn't actually say that 20% brought a parent to an interview, it said 20% of employers have had at least one applicant bring a parent.
Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (FR+I0)
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The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta recently revised its GDP growth estimate down from 4.2% to 1.8%, reflecting slowing economic activity and reduced consumer spending as inflation remains steady and prices continue to rise.
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Just a slight adjustment.
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Just a slight adjustment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (lTGtQ)
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20 Didn't South Park have an episode about "newcomers" from the future that "TOOK UR JERBS!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
And naturally the solution was gay sex. I worry about how Hollywood has warped those two...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
And naturally the solution was gay sex. I worry about how Hollywood has warped those two...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (xcxpd)
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33 The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta recently revised its GDP growth estimate down from 4.2% to 1.8%, reflecting slowing economic activity and reduced consumer spending as inflation remains steady and prices continue to rise.
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Just a slight adjustment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (lTGtQ)
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And that'll end up too high, too.
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Just a slight adjustment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (lTGtQ)
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And that'll end up too high, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
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15 "Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview."
That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Possibly this high number is because in some jurisdictions parents must accompany minors on interviews. That wasn't true when I interviewed for my first job -- as a dishwasher -- at 16. But today? Maybe.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
Actually, that this stat isn't simply a story about a single interview outlier is astounding to me.
If I interviewed someone that brought his parent with him into the room I don't even know what I'd say... I do know I wouldn't hire them.
That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Possibly this high number is because in some jurisdictions parents must accompany minors on interviews. That wasn't true when I interviewed for my first job -- as a dishwasher -- at 16. But today? Maybe.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
Actually, that this stat isn't simply a story about a single interview outlier is astounding to me.
If I interviewed someone that brought his parent with him into the room I don't even know what I'd say... I do know I wouldn't hire them.
Posted by: Inogame at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (53oGX)
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The survey uncovered many reasons why older applicants are preferred -- including that Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews.
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I wonder what it actually said. It's possible it says this, but I suspect it says "parent." This sounds way more like "obsessive single mom" behavior than "two-parent household" behavior.
I also don't get the candidates allowing this to happen. When I was a teenager, I asked my mom for a ride to a job interview. She asked me if I wanted her to come in with me. I reacted with horror. That was *my* fight, not hers - and if I didn't get the job, I didn't need to humiliate myself in front of her, either.
I don't get these people not telling their parents, "huh? No, of course not."
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I wonder what it actually said. It's possible it says this, but I suspect it says "parent." This sounds way more like "obsessive single mom" behavior than "two-parent household" behavior.
I also don't get the candidates allowing this to happen. When I was a teenager, I asked my mom for a ride to a job interview. She asked me if I wanted her to come in with me. I reacted with horror. That was *my* fight, not hers - and if I didn't get the job, I didn't need to humiliate myself in front of her, either.
I don't get these people not telling their parents, "huh? No, of course not."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (d04cU)
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We have not prepared this generation for peace, much less war. And of course the zombie tey will never survive.
‘Ow! Stop biting me’! Why are you biting me? It hurts!’.
-gen z
‘Ow! Stop biting me’! Why are you biting me? It hurts!’.
-gen z
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (o2ZRX)
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Just for the record, in statistical terms, there has not been a single full time job created for a white male since 2019.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (lTGtQ)
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You know if illegal immigrants replace us that's just going to encourage people like Tucker Carlson to think they were right about illegal immigrants replacing us!
(One of my favorite ironies that just rolls off Dem tongues.)
(One of my favorite ironies that just rolls off Dem tongues.)
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (krQz2)
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34 20 Didn't South Park have an episode about "newcomers" from the future that "TOOK UR JERBS!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
And naturally the solution was gay sex. I worry about how Hollywood has warped those two...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (xcxpd)
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Well, the gay sex destroyed the future so there was no future anymore. The real solution was fixing the earth so that the future was better, but that was even more gay.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
And naturally the solution was gay sex. I worry about how Hollywood has warped those two...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (xcxpd)
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Well, the gay sex destroyed the future so there was no future anymore. The real solution was fixing the earth so that the future was better, but that was even more gay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Meanwhile, employers are pursuing great lengths to avoid hiring a recent graduate, including offering more benefits for older employees (60%), paying higher salaries to older employees (59%), allowing older workers to work remotely or in a hybrid environment (48%) and hiring older employees for roles they're overqualified for (46%).
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Maybe my job hunt later this year will be better than I feared.
I doubt it, though.
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Maybe my job hunt later this year will be better than I feared.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (d04cU)
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What are they smoking at the Atlanta Fed. 4+% growth is pipe dream
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (v/nZx)
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Reality
An artificially high minimum wage does not improve the earning power of low income workers and instead causes job loss and businesses to close.
Mandating EVs to save the environment does not save the environment and instead causes more pollution, supply chain disruptions and inflation and will never replace gas powered engines.
Shutting down oil and gas drilling does not save the environment but instead creates inflation, job loss and causes bad foreign actors to take advantage of our stupidity and start wars.
An artificially high minimum wage does not improve the earning power of low income workers and instead causes job loss and businesses to close.
Mandating EVs to save the environment does not save the environment and instead causes more pollution, supply chain disruptions and inflation and will never replace gas powered engines.
Shutting down oil and gas drilling does not save the environment but instead creates inflation, job loss and causes bad foreign actors to take advantage of our stupidity and start wars.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (t/2Uw)
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Lizzo and Lena calendar would ensure zero population growth.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (tmgMU)
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Employment is up!
Posted by: Claudia Sheinbaum, Mexico's Very Mexican President at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (U7Cio)
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Do the parents sit in the lobby or go into the interview?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (63Dwl)
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One thing I truly appreciate about my new area is that you see native kids working at grocery stores, restaurants, etc. No Aztecs.
Where I used to live, these jobs were *all* done by adult Aztecs.
At least my kids will have an opportunity to learn about work at an entry level job here.
Where I used to live, these jobs were *all* done by adult Aztecs.
At least my kids will have an opportunity to learn about work at an entry level job here.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (0FoWg)
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The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta recently revised its GDP growth estimate down from 4.2% to 1.8%, reflecting slowing economic activity and reduced consumer spending as inflation remains steady and prices continue to rise.
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Just a slight adjustment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (lTGtQ)
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Yeah! From prosperity and "bustling" just down to meh.
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Just a slight adjustment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:21 PM (lTGtQ)
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Yeah! From prosperity and "bustling" just down to meh.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (krQz2)
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A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
My lawyer daughter says the same thing about the new lawyers. She's 32.
My lawyer daughter says the same thing about the new lawyers. She's 32.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (xCA6C)
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Well, the gay sex destroyed the future so there was no future anymore. The real solution was fixing the earth so that the future was better, but that was even more gay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
See? California ruins everything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
See? California ruins everything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (xcxpd)
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I really don't know what we can do. A society churning out hordes of economically-useless young people cannot survive.
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A society with crashing birth rates can't survive.
A society with an undefended border can't survive.
A society with crippling debt can't survive.
A society with collapsing marriage rates can't survive.
A society where its participants see no hope in the future can't survive.
It's all tied together, of course, and there's much more besides - but this is just another log on the fire.
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A society with crashing birth rates can't survive.
A society with an undefended border can't survive.
A society with crippling debt can't survive.
A society with collapsing marriage rates can't survive.
A society where its participants see no hope in the future can't survive.
It's all tied together, of course, and there's much more besides - but this is just another log on the fire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (d04cU)
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Of all of the jobs created in the past four years, about 70% went to illegals and legal aliens, and the other 30% were part time second and third jobs for people already partially employed. No full time jobs have been created.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)
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Didn't South Park have an episode about "newcomers" from the future that "TOOK UR JERBS!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
People aren't going to like their solution to the problem.
Or they are.
Which... eww.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (7fElN)
People aren't going to like their solution to the problem.
Or they are.
Which... eww.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (9UJHz)
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Do the parents sit in the lobby or go into the interview?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (63Dwl)
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"You're not going to talk to my Brenden like that! Come on Brenden, we're going!"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (63Dwl)
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"You're not going to talk to my Brenden like that! Come on Brenden, we're going!"
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (krQz2)
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And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
You should do the job that you are paid to do but...it is also interesting that with serious increases in productivity over the last 60 years real jobs still are 40+ hours a week, and ones that you spend decades at.
And the answer to this? The government has eaten up all those increases in productivity...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (ibTVg)
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Yea. While I have very low regard for younger workers, it's also unfair for businesses to hire you based on Expectations X and then try to impose more oppressive hours or working conditions. That happens too.
Another problem is there is much less opportunity to move up through the ranks, and thus less incentive to work really hard to move up. Law firms have been hit by this. There is much less room at the top for partners.
You should do the job that you are paid to do but...it is also interesting that with serious increases in productivity over the last 60 years real jobs still are 40+ hours a week, and ones that you spend decades at.
And the answer to this? The government has eaten up all those increases in productivity...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:20 PM (ibTVg)
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Yea. While I have very low regard for younger workers, it's also unfair for businesses to hire you based on Expectations X and then try to impose more oppressive hours or working conditions. That happens too.
Another problem is there is much less opportunity to move up through the ranks, and thus less incentive to work really hard to move up. Law firms have been hit by this. There is much less room at the top for partners.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (iFTx/)
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What is example of inapproriate language? "So, how much is this f'ing job going to pay me?"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
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Califoreign... thats perfect, hope it catches on.
I still work full time at 70, and I must say, the young ones just aren't all that interested in learning and working hard.
I don't get Gen Z at all, but I'm old so I'm probably not supposed to get it.
I still work full time at 70, and I must say, the young ones just aren't all that interested in learning and working hard.
I don't get Gen Z at all, but I'm old so I'm probably not supposed to get it.
Posted by: Ex GOP at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (GpUII)
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Meanwhile, employers are pursuing great lengths to avoid hiring a recent graduate
Graduates this year are prone to doing horrific things to Jewish coworkers, so there's that too.
Graduates this year are prone to doing horrific things to Jewish coworkers, so there's that too.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (2ocoG)
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Meanwhile, employers are pursuing great lengths to avoid hiring a recent graduate, including offering more benefits for older employees (60%),...
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15 years ago: What's going to happen when experienced older employees retire?!
5 years ago: Get rid of all our older employees, they cost too much.
Now: Don't hire any younger employees.
Meanwhile, employers are pursuing great lengths to avoid hiring a recent graduate, including offering more benefits for older employees (60%),...
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15 years ago: What's going to happen when experienced older employees retire?!
5 years ago: Get rid of all our older employees, they cost too much.
Now: Don't hire any younger employees.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (MoZTd)
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I feel like Gen Z is going to be a very tiny generation that doesn't span that many years. My youngest two are what I would call Gen Alpha. They are surprisingly cynical and remind me of Gen Xers.
Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (q177U)
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people who work in human resources are among the most dishonest people i've ever dealt with.
Posted by: gnats local 678
Well then!
There are a few good ones, mainly in operations. We exist. amongst the DEI spewers. I like to to think I was one and maintain the respect in the labor relations community I do because I was honest and knew my job. J is the head HR honcho for his company and he has very little tolerance or patience for those who don’t do HR as intended. He shut down quotas very quickly, he has very high expectations of the HR team under him.
I did tell him to stop calling people 4 levels underneath him and asking questions. That is unnecessarily scary. He loves it when I coach him from downstairs after I quit my job to be the exercise guru to the stars. ☺️
people who work in human resources are among the most dishonest people i've ever dealt with.
Posted by: gnats local 678
Well then!
There are a few good ones, mainly in operations. We exist. amongst the DEI spewers. I like to to think I was one and maintain the respect in the labor relations community I do because I was honest and knew my job. J is the head HR honcho for his company and he has very little tolerance or patience for those who don’t do HR as intended. He shut down quotas very quickly, he has very high expectations of the HR team under him.
I did tell him to stop calling people 4 levels underneath him and asking questions. That is unnecessarily scary. He loves it when I coach him from downstairs after I quit my job to be the exercise guru to the stars. ☺️
Posted by: Piper at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (pZEOD)
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I really don't know what we can do. A society churning out hordes of economically-useless young people cannot survive.
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A society with crashing birth rates can't survive.
A society with an undefended border can't survive.
A society with crippling debt can't survive.
A society with collapsing marriage rates can't survive.
A society where its participants see no hope in the future can't survive.
The same could be said of China, but their border is not undefended, and their young people work extremely hard.
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A society with crashing birth rates can't survive.
A society with an undefended border can't survive.
A society with crippling debt can't survive.
A society with collapsing marriage rates can't survive.
A society where its participants see no hope in the future can't survive.
The same could be said of China, but their border is not undefended, and their young people work extremely hard.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (xCA6C)
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Back in the 80's, the London "Punkers" arouse because these people had to go on job interviews to stay on the dole.
To make sure they didn't actually get the job and get pushed off of the dole, they would dress crazily and color their hair.
To make sure they didn't actually get the job and get pushed off of the dole, they would dress crazily and color their hair.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (RHGPo)
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Well, the gay sex destroyed the future so there was no future anymore. The real solution was fixing the earth so that the future was better, but that was even more gay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Earth fags.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Earth fags.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (krQz2)
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Some time ago, the government got its grubby syphilitic mitts into HR and hiring processes. The ability of a possible employee to Read, Write, and 'Rythmatic could no longer be tested, because. So employers got around that by requiring college degrees, with four years of expenses with limited income, if any.
This created an obvious demand from young Americans, and limited supply from higher tiers of higher education, who could keep increasing the fees. More so when government subsidized the tuition with loans, AND made said loans live past any bankruptcies.
Now? Diplomas aren't even usable to determine if a possible employee can do a damned job. If not, then what are the papers good for? And what is the replacement to identify competency?
This created an obvious demand from young Americans, and limited supply from higher tiers of higher education, who could keep increasing the fees. More so when government subsidized the tuition with loans, AND made said loans live past any bankruptcies.
Now? Diplomas aren't even usable to determine if a possible employee can do a damned job. If not, then what are the papers good for? And what is the replacement to identify competency?
Posted by: Another Anon at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (bvIJe)
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What is example of inapproriate language? "So, how much is this f'ing job going to pay me?"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
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My *guess* would be swearing and generational slang that the interviewers don't understand.
Swearing is crass and using slang or jargon with someone who doesn't understand it indicates poor ability to communicate and assess context.
Just a guess.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
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My *guess* would be swearing and generational slang that the interviewers don't understand.
Swearing is crass and using slang or jargon with someone who doesn't understand it indicates poor ability to communicate and assess context.
Just a guess.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (d04cU)
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The economy is so good My "retired" husband had to get a part time job
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (Akjoo)
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I had a recent flurry of activity with a New York law firm and basically everyone who worked there was incompetent. A diverse mix of incompetents; everyone seemed to be working from their homes. Children playing in the background, inability to transfer a phone call, sending my HIPPA protected abuse report to the wrong person.
In the end I walked away. My claim could have garnered them close to a hundred thousand dollars. Also, because I had to sign off my personal information which included my social security number resulted in identity theft. Anyone working from home with no one looking over their shoulder could jot down my name, address, and ss number. Fvck that. I'm not painting a bulls eye on my back.
I had a recent flurry of activity with a New York law firm and basically everyone who worked there was incompetent. A diverse mix of incompetents; everyone seemed to be working from their homes. Children playing in the background, inability to transfer a phone call, sending my HIPPA protected abuse report to the wrong person.
In the end I walked away. My claim could have garnered them close to a hundred thousand dollars. Also, because I had to sign off my personal information which included my social security number resulted in identity theft. Anyone working from home with no one looking over their shoulder could jot down my name, address, and ss number. Fvck that. I'm not painting a bulls eye on my back.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (RKVpM)
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Being merely normal is the new "extraordinary."
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Well look where we are. Braindead Fetterman says "You know what? Perhaps we *shouldn't* exterminate all the Jews..."
And even *we* oooh and ahhhh at the mystery and wonder of Common Sense Boy, the Astounding Half-Retard.
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Well look where we are. Braindead Fetterman says "You know what? Perhaps we *shouldn't* exterminate all the Jews..."
And even *we* oooh and ahhhh at the mystery and wonder of Common Sense Boy, the Astounding Half-Retard.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (+yplR)
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iirc, the unemployment rate is based on how many collect unemployment benefits. As peoples' eligibility to collect expires and the number of collectors drops so does the unemployment rate.
Posted by: davidt at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (SYTee)
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And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
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I’ve seen this in younger employees, primarily college graduates.
The kids actually have a point. Companies that put you on a salary think they own you. They foist on you more work than can be done in a 40+ hour week (hell my manager straight up said he expected 50 hour work weeks from salaried employees).
What I’ve seen that is bad is younger employees not actually trying to learn skills.
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I’ve seen this in younger employees, primarily college graduates.
The kids actually have a point. Companies that put you on a salary think they own you. They foist on you more work than can be done in a 40+ hour week (hell my manager straight up said he expected 50 hour work weeks from salaried employees).
What I’ve seen that is bad is younger employees not actually trying to learn skills.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (OCX74)
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Whelp...
we are quickly approaching the point where the powers that be will need to cull a good portion of the young and working age folks to compensate for their terrible ideas...
It was a good run.
we are quickly approaching the point where the powers that be will need to cull a good portion of the young and working age folks to compensate for their terrible ideas...
It was a good run.
Posted by: Inogame at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (53oGX)
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Unemployment Rises as Americans Lose Jobs to Foreign "Newcomers"
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Also known as "Parasites" and "UDVs (Undocumented Democrat Voters)" ... but mostly "UDVs (Undocumented Democrat Voters)."
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Also known as "Parasites" and "UDVs (Undocumented Democrat Voters)" ... but mostly "UDVs (Undocumented Democrat Voters)."
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (NGa9E)
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To make sure they didn't actually get the job and get pushed off of the dole, they would dress crazily and color their hair.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (RHGPo)
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Thank you for making me hate punk all the more.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (RHGPo)
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Thank you for making me hate punk all the more.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (krQz2)
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>>>That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Agreed. This is probably a click bait listacle.
Agreed. This is probably a click bait listacle.
Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (q177U)
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Qatar has given Hamas an ultimatum to accept the ceasefire deal proposed by the US and Israel or face expulsion from Doha
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (RHGPo)
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Of all of the jobs created in the past four years, about 70% went to illegals and legal aliens, and the other 30% were part time second and third jobs for people already partially employed. No full time jobs have been created.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)
With all due respect, I live in a community with a high "retired" poopulation. Whenever I go into shops in this town, a VERY high percentage of the employees are brown.
I assume most of them are here legally.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)
With all due respect, I live in a community with a high "retired" poopulation. Whenever I go into shops in this town, a VERY high percentage of the employees are brown.
I assume most of them are here legally.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (9UJHz)
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Afternoon ace. Wonder how many youngins watched those vids where workers in their tech jobs did nothing all day . Better tell them that most of those people are unemployed. No free lunch chidren
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (BWgFn)
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The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta recently revised its GDP growth estimate down from 4.2% to 1.8% ...
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Unexpectedly.
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Unexpectedly.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (NGa9E)
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Another problem is there is much less opportunity to move up through the ranks, and thus less incentive to work really hard to move up. Law firms have been hit by this. There is much less room at the top for partners.
We used to say the same about baby boomer scientists moving up at my lab. There were just too many of them, so very few had an opening to move up. The problem was compounded by the lack of a forced retirement policy, so you'd have fossils clinging to upper management slots literally into their 80s. It was ridiculous.
We used to say the same about baby boomer scientists moving up at my lab. There were just too many of them, so very few had an opening to move up. The problem was compounded by the lack of a forced retirement policy, so you'd have fossils clinging to upper management slots literally into their 80s. It was ridiculous.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (xCA6C)
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They'll keep Medicare. It will be expanded to the young and denied to the old.
youtu.be/MZGwY49TXWs
youtu.be/MZGwY49TXWs
Posted by: gKWVE at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (gKWVE)
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77 Qatar has given Hamas an ultimatum to accept the ceasefire deal proposed by the US and Israel or face expulsion from Doha
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (RHGPo)
Israel ? They accepted this "deal" ?
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (RHGPo)
Israel ? They accepted this "deal" ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (Akjoo)
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It's nice to see America is becoming Venezuela.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (0ZPY9)
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You should do the job that you are paid to do but...it is also interesting that with serious increases in productivity over the last 60 years real jobs still are 40+ hours a week, and ones that you spend decades at.
And the answer to this? The government has eaten up all those increases in productivity...
Posted by: 18-1
Two thirds of illegals are on some sort of welfare, ten percent of Americans are on some sort of disability, and in urban areas close to a third of the residents are on welfare.
Somebody has to do the work to pay for all of these leeches.
We are now in a place where the elites are slaves to take care of the lower classes.
And the answer to this? The government has eaten up all those increases in productivity...
Posted by: 18-1
Two thirds of illegals are on some sort of welfare, ten percent of Americans are on some sort of disability, and in urban areas close to a third of the residents are on welfare.
Somebody has to do the work to pay for all of these leeches.
We are now in a place where the elites are slaves to take care of the lower classes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (lTGtQ)
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Hamas is going off the Doha?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (tmgMU)
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I did tell my son, when he was being interviewed to address the interviewer as "Mr. _____," not for example. "I'm glad you mentioned that, Steve." which seems overly familiar. He probably would have done it anyway, because he's kind of formal person, but I probably wouldn't be surprised at some things some of the young people come out with during an interview.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (XkYcA)
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15 "Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview."
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
Kid still living at home, Zoom interview, parent off camera coaching? I could see that. But I can't believe that parents would come to an in-person interview. Sitting in the car in the parking lot while the kid is inside, sure, but anything else is just crazy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
Kid still living at home, Zoom interview, parent off camera coaching? I could see that. But I can't believe that parents would come to an in-person interview. Sitting in the car in the parking lot while the kid is inside, sure, but anything else is just crazy.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (VGRuw)
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A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
My lawyer daughter says the same thing about the new lawyers. She's 32.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (xCA6C)
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I saw it at the same age. I was hired right out of law school by a top-tier NYC firm. I and all the other junior associates knew the deal: they would work me like a leper slave and in exchange they would pay me tons of money with a small chance of making partner and the millions in income that comes with that. I was working 80+ hours a week, no questions asked.
But not many years later, the new breed of junior associates started balking at long hours, taking instructions, and generally doing their jobs. They wanted the money and prestige. They didn't want to work for it.
My lawyer daughter says the same thing about the new lawyers. She's 32.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:23 PM (xCA6C)
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I saw it at the same age. I was hired right out of law school by a top-tier NYC firm. I and all the other junior associates knew the deal: they would work me like a leper slave and in exchange they would pay me tons of money with a small chance of making partner and the millions in income that comes with that. I was working 80+ hours a week, no questions asked.
But not many years later, the new breed of junior associates started balking at long hours, taking instructions, and generally doing their jobs. They wanted the money and prestige. They didn't want to work for it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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Graduates this year are prone to doing horrific things to Jewish coworkers, so there's that too.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (2ocoG)
Yup. I don't want have to tell young Dakota that standing on my desk and shrieking at me that I'm a kike or whatever isn't employable behavior.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (2ocoG)
Yup. I don't want have to tell young Dakota that standing on my desk and shrieking at me that I'm a kike or whatever isn't employable behavior.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (0FoWg)
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At the debate Trump needs to stress that the jobs and BENEFITS are going to illegals instead of Americans. This especially hurts the legal minorities .
Posted by: redridinghood at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (lEGrV)
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The economy is so good My "retired" husband had to get a part time job
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM
My leftist sister with a near fatal case of TDS is re-mortgaging her home and took on a part time job to make ends meet. She was retired for about four years. Bidenomics gave her such a rich reward.
The economy is so good My "retired" husband had to get a part time job
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM
My leftist sister with a near fatal case of TDS is re-mortgaging her home and took on a part time job to make ends meet. She was retired for about four years. Bidenomics gave her such a rich reward.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM)
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feel like Gen Z is going to be a very tiny generation that doesn't span that many years. My youngest two are what I would call Gen Alpha. They are surprisingly cynical and remind me of Gen Xers.
Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (q177U)
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Z is small. It is also the last "generation" that can be treated as such, although I think they probably can't be and that train derailed with the Millennials because the whole concept was an historical aberration anyway.
But broadly, the Boomers (a mega-generation) begot the Millennials (a mega-generation). Some Silents and a few Boomers begot the Xers (a tiny generation), who begot the Zoomers (a tiny generation).
Alpha is going to be tiny no matter what, even though their broad cohort parents (Millennials, who also begot some of the Zoomers) is a mega-generation, because they just aren't having kids.
Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (q177U)
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Z is small. It is also the last "generation" that can be treated as such, although I think they probably can't be and that train derailed with the Millennials because the whole concept was an historical aberration anyway.
But broadly, the Boomers (a mega-generation) begot the Millennials (a mega-generation). Some Silents and a few Boomers begot the Xers (a tiny generation), who begot the Zoomers (a tiny generation).
Alpha is going to be tiny no matter what, even though their broad cohort parents (Millennials, who also begot some of the Zoomers) is a mega-generation, because they just aren't having kids.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (0ZPY9)
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It found that 39% of employers actively avoid hiring recent college graduates for roles they're qualified for.
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First, bad grammar. Second, by definition recent college grads aren't qualified for anything shy of political activism. Most are little more than feral beasts that wear clothes.
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First, bad grammar. Second, by definition recent college grads aren't qualified for anything shy of political activism. Most are little more than feral beasts that wear clothes.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (o2Ok5)
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Significant job losses for native-born workers and gains for foreign-born workers, including illegal immigrants, paint a concerning picture for the American workforce.
No one should be concerned. Our Glorious People's Revolutionary Government will provide all citizens with all their needs... no need to work... at least until we have a solid lock on the SCOTUS and can do away with pesky elections... then we'll FIND work for you to do. Trust us.
No one should be concerned. Our Glorious People's Revolutionary Government will provide all citizens with all their needs... no need to work... at least until we have a solid lock on the SCOTUS and can do away with pesky elections... then we'll FIND work for you to do. Trust us.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (IUd0M)
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What is example of inapproriate language? "So, how much is this f'ing job going to pay me?"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
He
She
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
He
She
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (+yplR)
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I really, really just can't believe that 20% have taken their parents to a job interview.
It's like telling me a cloud is shitting skittles-- it's just too outrageous to be real.
It's like telling me a cloud is shitting skittles-- it's just too outrageous to be real.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (XrQtz)
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Well look where we are. Braindead Fetterman says "You know what? Perhaps we *shouldn't* exterminate all the Jews..."
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (+yplR)
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I know that Fetterman isn't our kind of guy, that that's not at all a fair assessment of his support of Israel.
He papered his office with every missing Israeli hostage. And he's been clear about how IDF should eradicate Hamas.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (+yplR)
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I know that Fetterman isn't our kind of guy, that that's not at all a fair assessment of his support of Israel.
He papered his office with every missing Israeli hostage. And he's been clear about how IDF should eradicate Hamas.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (krQz2)
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We're witnessing the collapse of our civilization in real time.
These idiots won't be able to maintain the trappings of the technical/civil society those before them have built. They're incapable. Perfect serfs for the protected classes.
These idiots won't be able to maintain the trappings of the technical/civil society those before them have built. They're incapable. Perfect serfs for the protected classes.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (Q4IgG)
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Do the parents sit in the lobby or go into the interview?
... way way back I had gotten a ride to an interview with a parent, but they never got out of the car.
... way way back I had gotten a ride to an interview with a parent, but they never got out of the car.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM (RHGPo)
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I can understand leaving the camera off if you have disqualifying tincture.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM (wzAuc)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM (T4tVD)
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>>>My leftist sister with a near fatal case of TDS is re-mortgaging her home and took on a part time job to make ends meet. She was retired for about four years. Bidenomics gave her such a rich reward.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
And she'll still vote Biden. SMH
Posted by: Divide by Zero
And she'll still vote Biden. SMH
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM (0ZPY9)
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And like every economic indicator put out by this administration, in two weeks, the numbers will be quietly revised, late on a Friday afternoon, to reflect and even worse picture. But no one will report on it.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM (W/lyH)
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We are now in a place where the elites are slaves to take care of the lower classes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (lTGtQ)
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Not the elites but the upper middle class, yeah. The elites are serviced by the lower classes and aren't wage slaves.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:28 PM (lTGtQ)
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Not the elites but the upper middle class, yeah. The elites are serviced by the lower classes and aren't wage slaves.
Posted by: ballistic at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM (oqH4h)
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Joey Ramone wept.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (0ZPY9)
I Wanna be sedated.. No.. seriously
Joey Ramone wept.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (0ZPY9)
I Wanna be sedated.. No.. seriously
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (Akjoo)
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Who can answer a DIY question?
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (/7KEl)
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We're witnessing the collapse of our civilization in real time.
... refer to "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" for hints as to what is next
... refer to "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" for hints as to what is next
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (RHGPo)
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I did tell my son, when he was being interviewed to address the interviewer as "Mr. _____," not for example. "I'm glad you mentioned that, Steve." which seems overly familiar. He probably would have done it anyway, because he's kind of formal person, but I probably wouldn't be surprised at some things some of the young people come out with during an interview.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (XkYcA)
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Always open with formality. Every time I have done this - "I'm pleased to meet you, Mr. Jones" - I've been told, "oh, please just call me Jim." That's fine. But you open with formal courtesy. If given different direction, accept it. But never open familiarly. You're not familiar.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (XkYcA)
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Always open with formality. Every time I have done this - "I'm pleased to meet you, Mr. Jones" - I've been told, "oh, please just call me Jim." That's fine. But you open with formal courtesy. If given different direction, accept it. But never open familiarly. You're not familiar.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (d04cU)
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Thank you for making me hate punk all the more.
Posted by: Axeman
Joey Ramone wept.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (0ZPY9)
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"Johnny Ramone", though, would not try to get out of a job. And he's perhaps the only punker I could care about.
Posted by: Axeman
Joey Ramone wept.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (0ZPY9)
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"Johnny Ramone", though, would not try to get out of a job. And he's perhaps the only punker I could care about.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (krQz2)
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The kids actually have a point. Companies that put you on a salary think they own you. They foist on you more work than can be done in a 40+ hour week (hell my manager straight up said he expected 50 hour work weeks from salaried employees).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (OCX74)
I've been doing what I do for a long time now. I get paid well, and I should. What I see is females in my line of work who seem to think it's their responsibility to engage in all sorts of activities that don't really make much difference in the long run, but allow them to tell everyone they're working 10-12 hour days (getting paid for
, and working through lunch.
To hell with that. This really is a female problem. They're people pleasers, and bosses know that, so they exploit it.
Hire more people or don't, but I'm not staying longer than I'm paid to be there.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:27 PM (OCX74)
I've been doing what I do for a long time now. I get paid well, and I should. What I see is females in my line of work who seem to think it's their responsibility to engage in all sorts of activities that don't really make much difference in the long run, but allow them to tell everyone they're working 10-12 hour days (getting paid for
, and working through lunch.
To hell with that. This really is a female problem. They're people pleasers, and bosses know that, so they exploit it.
Hire more people or don't, but I'm not staying longer than I'm paid to be there.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (9UJHz)
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21% said they refuse to turn their cameras on for virtual interviews.
Most GenZ I see these days cannot take their eyes off TikTok long enough for an interview anyway.
Most GenZ I see these days cannot take their eyes off TikTok long enough for an interview anyway.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (IUd0M)
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Hey, Wyatt, good to see you. Survived the recent fun in PA, I take it?
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (YdEcD)
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Qatar has given Hamas an ultimatum to accept the ceasefire deal proposed by the US and Israel or face expulsion from Doha
Posted by: SMOD
They'll just go to Turkey. They've already been there a few times and Erdogen is o their side. The ceasefire requires them to give us their weapons which is their whole reason to exist.
Posted by: SMOD
They'll just go to Turkey. They've already been there a few times and Erdogen is o their side. The ceasefire requires them to give us their weapons which is their whole reason to exist.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (t/2Uw)
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Jeez, the stupid auto-smiley insert.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (9UJHz)
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This story from January "resurfaced" on social media: Gen Zers are "bringing their whole selves" to job interviews, and by "whole selves," I mean they're bringing their parents. Or 20% are, at least.
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Do illegal alien invader Gen Zers get to bring their entire extended families with them to job interviews?
Out: Chain migration.
In: Chain stagflation.
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Do illegal alien invader Gen Zers get to bring their entire extended families with them to job interviews?
Out: Chain migration.
In: Chain stagflation.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (NGa9E)
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Can the demented, load dropping degenerate explain the fundamental principles of Bidenomics?
Posted by: Northernlurker at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (JLq/1)
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But broadly, the Boomers (a mega-generation) begot the Millennials (a mega-generation). Some Silents and a few Boomers begot the Xers (a tiny generation), who begot the Zoomers (a tiny generation).
Alpha is going to be tiny no matter what, even though their broad cohort parents (Millennials, who also begot some of the Zoomers) is a mega-generation, because they just aren't having kids.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (d04cU)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Alpha is going to be tiny no matter what, even though their broad cohort parents (Millennials, who also begot some of the Zoomers) is a mega-generation, because they just aren't having kids.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (d04cU)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
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BREAKING: Trump announces his campaign raised $400 MILLION post-conviction
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (tmgMU)
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (v/nZx)
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I know that Fetterman isn't our kind of guy, that that's not at all a fair assessment of his support of Israel.
He papered his office with every missing Israeli hostage. And he's been clear about how IDF should eradicate Hamas.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (krQz2)
Appreciate your attention to accuracy but in context my point wasn't remotely to summarize his position, it was to differentiate it from everyone else in his party.
He papered his office with every missing Israeli hostage. And he's been clear about how IDF should eradicate Hamas.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (krQz2)
Appreciate your attention to accuracy but in context my point wasn't remotely to summarize his position, it was to differentiate it from everyone else in his party.
Posted by: ... at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (+yplR)
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These idiots won't be able to maintain the trappings of the technical/civil society those before them have built. They're incapable. Perfect serfs for the protected classes.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (Q4IgG)
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Don’t worry all that will be off shored to India or China. /s
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 07, 2024 12:30 PM (Q4IgG)
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Don’t worry all that will be off shored to India or China. /s
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (OCX74)
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>But you open with formal courtesy. If given different direction, accept it. But never open familiarly. You're not familiar.
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if you want to get downright Victorian:
never offer your hand to a Lady. Wait for her to offer. Don't just assume she wants your dirty mitts on her delicate skin.
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if you want to get downright Victorian:
never offer your hand to a Lady. Wait for her to offer. Don't just assume she wants your dirty mitts on her delicate skin.
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (/7KEl)
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One of the questions I have heard is "when does the US start copying the USSR's problems with 'tafta'"
Tafta if you remember is the idea that you just show up and do as little as possible to get paid: They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work was how it was put. It was a reflection of the concealed inflation the USSR was dealing with.
I think we are getting there, remember we are all "working for the future and that eventual pension" which of course is worth little now and will be worth less in the future.
You work hard and watch the promotions and the plum jobs go to BFFs and management pets, and your reward is a retirement benefit that is about 3/4 of the rent on a trailer park spot, 0-care that puts you in line with the meth heads and illegals for check-ups and heart stents and transplants, and no protection from crime.
truly the Radiant Future for All Mankind is achievable with just one more grand effort.
Tafta if you remember is the idea that you just show up and do as little as possible to get paid: They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work was how it was put. It was a reflection of the concealed inflation the USSR was dealing with.
I think we are getting there, remember we are all "working for the future and that eventual pension" which of course is worth little now and will be worth less in the future.
You work hard and watch the promotions and the plum jobs go to BFFs and management pets, and your reward is a retirement benefit that is about 3/4 of the rent on a trailer park spot, 0-care that puts you in line with the meth heads and illegals for check-ups and heart stents and transplants, and no protection from crime.
truly the Radiant Future for All Mankind is achievable with just one more grand effort.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:35 PM (D7oie)
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120 BREAKING: Trump announces his campaign raised $400 MILLION post-conviction
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (RHGPo)
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Narrator:
GOP campaign consultants have secured $450 million worth of TV advertising in Columbus, Ohio.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (RHGPo)
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Narrator:
GOP campaign consultants have secured $450 million worth of TV advertising in Columbus, Ohio.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Hey, Wyatt, good to see you. Survived the recent fun in PA, I take it?
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (YdEcD)
This!
How ya doing?
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (YdEcD)
This!
How ya doing?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
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My parents are boomers, and old ones at that (though I was also unintended).
Virtually my entire cohort has Boomer parents. Most Millennials came from the Boomers. Before the cutesy name was developed in the late 90s, the "Millennial" generation were called the "Echo Boomers."
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
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My parents are boomers, and old ones at that (though I was also unintended).
Virtually my entire cohort has Boomer parents. Most Millennials came from the Boomers. Before the cutesy name was developed in the late 90s, the "Millennial" generation were called the "Echo Boomers."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:35 PM (d04cU)
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Joe Biden turns his back when Taps is played
... not sure what is up with this as Macron turns too.
... not sure what is up with this as Macron turns too.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (tmgMU)
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I really don't know what we can do. A society churning out hordes of economically-useless young people cannot survive.
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Maybe we should rename them "Generation Omega", and just give up. Embrace anti-natalism, and let some other species run the world.
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Maybe we should rename them "Generation Omega", and just give up. Embrace anti-natalism, and let some other species run the world.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (1bNHn)
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>>>I don't know how it works at law firms, but if there's one thing that I'm glad that Gen Z is killing it's the expectation that four people will do the amount of work that should be done by eight, sacrificing their nights and weekends, social life and time with their family just to eke out a living.
I hear that but about 20% of deadlines are going to come on a Monday, and if it's not done by Friday, someone is going to have to work over the weekend.
Fair point, though.
My friend isn't unreasonable, though. The stories he told me... these people just don't feel like working and have no compunction about calling mental health days a couple of times per month.
You can't do that in a law firm. Everything is on deadline.
I hear that but about 20% of deadlines are going to come on a Monday, and if it's not done by Friday, someone is going to have to work over the weekend.
Fair point, though.
My friend isn't unreasonable, though. The stories he told me... these people just don't feel like working and have no compunction about calling mental health days a couple of times per month.
You can't do that in a law firm. Everything is on deadline.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
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Speaking of Newcomers, how it t hat executive order going with shutting down the border? Are not we already at 2500/day arrivals so there should be automatic shutdown, right?
No, it hasn't. Even that pathetic attempt to pretend to show that something was being done was bullshit. BTW, it does not include illegals that use the Biden phone app to make an appointment, so they are waved in. Dems are treasonous viper.s
No, it hasn't. Even that pathetic attempt to pretend to show that something was being done was bullshit. BTW, it does not include illegals that use the Biden phone app to make an appointment, so they are waved in. Dems are treasonous viper.s
Posted by: Ripley at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (JojsZ)
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130 Joe Biden turns his back when Taps is played
... not sure what is up with this as Macron turns too.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (RHGPo)
Joe is still there ?
... not sure what is up with this as Macron turns too.
Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (RHGPo)
Joe is still there ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (Akjoo)
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And she'll still vote Biden. SMH
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM
Of course. She's in FL and hates DeSantis with a passion. Apparently they're trying to deal with the homeless so the state doesn't become a Kensington. She's opposed, of course.
And she'll still vote Biden. SMH
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 07, 2024 12:31 PM
Of course. She's in FL and hates DeSantis with a passion. Apparently they're trying to deal with the homeless so the state doesn't become a Kensington. She's opposed, of course.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (RKVpM)
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I've been doing what I do for a long time now. I get paid well, and I should. What I see is females in my line of work who seem to think it's their responsibility to engage in all sorts of activities that don't really make much difference in the long run, but allow them to tell everyone they're working 10-12 hour days (getting paid for , and working through lunch.
To hell with that. This really is a female problem. They're people pleasers, and bosses know that, so they exploit it.
Hire more people or don't, but I'm not staying longer than I'm paid to be there.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (9UJHz)
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I didn’t mention the sex but, yes, women are particularly prone to “40 and out”.
I've been doing what I do for a long time now. I get paid well, and I should. What I see is females in my line of work who seem to think it's their responsibility to engage in all sorts of activities that don't really make much difference in the long run, but allow them to tell everyone they're working 10-12 hour days (getting paid for , and working through lunch.
To hell with that. This really is a female problem. They're people pleasers, and bosses know that, so they exploit it.
Hire more people or don't, but I'm not staying longer than I'm paid to be there.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:32 PM (9UJHz)
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I didn’t mention the sex but, yes, women are particularly prone to “40 and out”.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (OCX74)
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My leftist sister with a near fatal case of TDS is re-mortgaging her home and took on a part time job to make ends meet. She was retired for about four years. Bidenomics gave her such a rich reward.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM)
Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM)
Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (9UJHz)
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136 Of course. She's in FL and hates DeSantis with a passion. Apparently they're trying to deal with the homeless so the state doesn't become a Kensington. She's opposed, of course.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (RKVpM)
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Doesn't she know that DeSantis is a quality candidate?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (RKVpM)
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Doesn't she know that DeSantis is a quality candidate?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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if you want to get downright Victorian:
never offer your hand to a Lady. Wait for her to offer. Don't just assume she wants your dirty mitts on her delicate skin.
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (/7KEl)
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Nope. For two reasons:
1. We're ostensibly all equal now, so courtesy also applies equally.
2. If I'm at a job interview or in a professional setting, she's not a woman. She's the boss, or she's a client, or she's a peer, or whatever. Business courtesy applies no matter what. That is a sexless consideration.
never offer your hand to a Lady. Wait for her to offer. Don't just assume she wants your dirty mitts on her delicate skin.
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (/7KEl)
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Nope. For two reasons:
1. We're ostensibly all equal now, so courtesy also applies equally.
2. If I'm at a job interview or in a professional setting, she's not a woman. She's the boss, or she's a client, or she's a peer, or whatever. Business courtesy applies no matter what. That is a sexless consideration.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (d04cU)
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Dunno if it's right, but I think it might be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Analysis seems sound. What employers like about open borders for cheap labor is basically a tragedy of the commons. They offload the costs of these illegals on society but gain the individual advantage for their company for cheaper labor than otherwise would be the case. As a result, welfare costs spiral along with ancillary government costs such as spending on schools, roads, prisons, etc. to accommodate the illegals.
So taxes must rise on all of us to support those Americans who lose their jobs. There is a reason that Milton Friedman said that "It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state"
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Analysis seems sound. What employers like about open borders for cheap labor is basically a tragedy of the commons. They offload the costs of these illegals on society but gain the individual advantage for their company for cheaper labor than otherwise would be the case. As a result, welfare costs spiral along with ancillary government costs such as spending on schools, roads, prisons, etc. to accommodate the illegals.
So taxes must rise on all of us to support those Americans who lose their jobs. There is a reason that Milton Friedman said that "It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state"
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (WwRol)
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They will repudiate Social Security and Medicare the moment they have a working majority to do so. They can barely support themselves, they're not going to support the older generations.
I have always made my CFP crazy by insisting that no retirement projections should ever include social security. They'll tell me that worst case it'll only go to 72%. I smile and say, "still, don't include it."
I have always made my CFP crazy by insisting that no retirement projections should ever include social security. They'll tell me that worst case it'll only go to 72%. I smile and say, "still, don't include it."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (IUd0M)
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As someone who used to hire young people for jobs, I would receive the standard applications and then, as one of my subordinates put it, Facebook stalk them.
Basically, I started looking into candidates social media presence to see what they were really like. Weeded out quite a few that way. I told one girl I hired, afterwards, that I screened folks' social media, and the expression on her face was priceless. Ohhhhh...
Basically, I started looking into candidates social media presence to see what they were really like. Weeded out quite a few that way. I told one girl I hired, afterwards, that I screened folks' social media, and the expression on her face was priceless. Ohhhhh...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (MZ+PY)
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this is kind of pissing me off sorry - mine work hard and are normal and I have one guy STILL looking for a summer job of any kind after a month of endless interviews (for fast food!?!?!)
the place he used to work at is struggling so down to bare bones, and a lot of places won't hire college students in the summer bc they have plenty of adults who will stay in the job - including dishwashing freaking jobs.
I feel so bad for him he's had probably 20 interviews. so far we are not at all helping him but if this last one (he's had three interviews and one in-person, for part time at a Wawa) falls thru (there are apparently 15 candidates) I have no choice but to pull favors. Which btw is what all the other parents do - out of necessity it seems like!
tons of previous summer kid jobs are now all illegals btw
the place he used to work at is struggling so down to bare bones, and a lot of places won't hire college students in the summer bc they have plenty of adults who will stay in the job - including dishwashing freaking jobs.
I feel so bad for him he's had probably 20 interviews. so far we are not at all helping him but if this last one (he's had three interviews and one in-person, for part time at a Wawa) falls thru (there are apparently 15 candidates) I have no choice but to pull favors. Which btw is what all the other parents do - out of necessity it seems like!
tons of previous summer kid jobs are now all illegals btw
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (s3qiR)
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131 Far more serious and personal fare -
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (tmgMU)
I'm sorry.. I know how tough that is
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (tmgMU)
I'm sorry.. I know how tough that is
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (Akjoo)
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... way way back I had gotten a ride to an interview with a parent, but they never got out of the car.
Posted by: SMOD
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I recently rode shotgun with RefugeeDaughter for an interview 8 hours away by car. Could she have done it on her own? Yeah.
... way way back I had gotten a ride to an interview with a parent, but they never got out of the car.
Posted by: SMOD
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I recently rode shotgun with RefugeeDaughter for an interview 8 hours away by car. Could she have done it on her own? Yeah.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (fvCJX)
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I saw it at the same age. I was hired right out of law school by a top-tier NYC firm. I and all the other junior associates knew the deal: they would work me like a leper slave and in exchange they would pay me tons of money with a small chance of making partner and the millions in income that comes with that. I was working 80+ hours a week, no questions asked.
But not many years later, the new breed of junior associates started balking at long hours, taking instructions, and generally doing their jobs. They wanted the money and prestige. They didn't want to work for it.
Elric-
That is her experience as well. Sure, they work you like a slave, but you knew that going in. If you didn't, you probably aren't smart enough to work there.
The kids actually have a point. Companies that put you on a salary think they own you. They foist on you more work than can be done in a 40+ hour week (hell my manager straight up said he expected 50 hour work weeks from salaried employees).
Lots of young people now assume a salary means a 40 hour week. It usually doesn't. They should know better.
But not many years later, the new breed of junior associates started balking at long hours, taking instructions, and generally doing their jobs. They wanted the money and prestige. They didn't want to work for it.
Elric-
That is her experience as well. Sure, they work you like a slave, but you knew that going in. If you didn't, you probably aren't smart enough to work there.
The kids actually have a point. Companies that put you on a salary think they own you. They foist on you more work than can be done in a 40+ hour week (hell my manager straight up said he expected 50 hour work weeks from salaried employees).
Lots of young people now assume a salary means a 40 hour week. It usually doesn't. They should know better.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (xCA6C)
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Also, maybe it's a good thing that enrichers are taking our jobs. If Gen Z is any indication, at least the illegals had the nads to come here. Gen Z would have demanded we provide Ubers to bring them here.
I'm glad I'm old.
I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (1bNHn)
149
***A friend of mine commented: Being merely normal is the new "extraordinary."
I really don't know what we can do. A society churning out hordes of economically-useless young people cannot survive.***
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_Throw all illegals out. (the smart one's will figure out a way to become legal)
_Establish an immigration policy that allows those qualified to do jobs unfulfilled by lazy Z and other open positions.
_Eliminate the money trough for any and all.
I really don't know what we can do. A society churning out hordes of economically-useless young people cannot survive.***
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_Throw all illegals out. (the smart one's will figure out a way to become legal)
_Establish an immigration policy that allows those qualified to do jobs unfulfilled by lazy Z and other open positions.
_Eliminate the money trough for any and all.
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (YdEcD)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Garrison Keillor?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Garrison Keillor?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (D7oie)
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I saw it at the same age. I was hired right out of law school by a top-tier NYC firm. I and all the other junior associates knew the deal: they would work me like a leper slave and in exchange they would pay me tons of money with a small chance of making partner and the millions in income that comes with that. I was working 80+ hours a week, no questions asked.
But not many years later, the new breed of junior associates started balking at long hours, taking instructions, and generally doing their jobs. They wanted the money and prestige. They didn't want to work for it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
I assume what you also gained during that slog was experience, and pulled that at a much faster rate than one would in a 36-40 hour week schedule.
But not many years later, the new breed of junior associates started balking at long hours, taking instructions, and generally doing their jobs. They wanted the money and prestige. They didn't want to work for it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
I assume what you also gained during that slog was experience, and pulled that at a much faster rate than one would in a 36-40 hour week schedule.
Posted by: Inogame at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (53oGX)
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It used to be that when you left for the day, you might as well have gone to another planet. I never got a work call at home.
Now, with cell phones, e-mail and Zoom, they can pester you 24/7.
It used to be that when you left for the day, you might as well have gone to another planet. I never got a work call at home.
Now, with cell phones, e-mail and Zoom, they can pester you 24/7.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (MoZTd)
153
It's me donna, he is supposed to go on to the G7 meeting over there
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (v/nZx)
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143 As someone who used to hire young people for jobs, I would receive the standard applications and then, as one of my subordinates put it, Facebook stalk them.
my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (s3qiR)
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Punk Rock *arrived* in my teens. I didn't get the hair, the antics, the attitude, or the music (for the most part).
Now that I know Brit Punks were trying to stay on the dole, my disgust enters into it.
Had a friend of mine who *loved* the punk and proto-punk scene (for want of a better word for Velvet Underground, etc). He was hyped about seeing the "original punk", GG Allin in concert.
Allin took a shit on stage and smeared in all over himself and went about trying to touch audience members.
Now that I know Brit Punks were trying to stay on the dole, my disgust enters into it.
Had a friend of mine who *loved* the punk and proto-punk scene (for want of a better word for Velvet Underground, etc). He was hyped about seeing the "original punk", GG Allin in concert.
Allin took a shit on stage and smeared in all over himself and went about trying to touch audience members.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (krQz2)
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Qatar has given Hamas an ultimatum to accept the ceasefire deal proposed by the US and Israel or face expulsion from Doha
Posted by: SMOD
They'll just go to Turkey. They've already been there a few times and Erdogen is o their side. The ceasefire requires them to give us their weapons which is their whole reason to exist.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (t/2Uw)
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I suspect a lot of arm twisting by the Administration to call it the "US Peace plan." And I'm not sure Israel has agreed to anything.
Not sure about Turkey. Even Erdogen isn't this stupid.
But who knows?
Posted by: SMOD
They'll just go to Turkey. They've already been there a few times and Erdogen is o their side. The ceasefire requires them to give us their weapons which is their whole reason to exist.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:33 PM (t/2Uw)
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I suspect a lot of arm twisting by the Administration to call it the "US Peace plan." And I'm not sure Israel has agreed to anything.
Not sure about Turkey. Even Erdogen isn't this stupid.
But who knows?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:39 PM (W/lyH)
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Sorry, I'm going to observe the proprieties at all times
this comes from having a mother (rest her soul) born and raised in the UK
this comes from having a mother (rest her soul) born and raised in the UK
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:39 PM (/7KEl)
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I didn’t mention the sex but, yes, women are particularly prone to “40 and out”.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (OCX74)
I'm saying the opposite. Chicks are the ones who are "staying late," solving problems that will still be there in the morning, and bragging about how overwhelmed they are.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (OCX74)
I'm saying the opposite. Chicks are the ones who are "staying late," solving problems that will still be there in the morning, and bragging about how overwhelmed they are.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:39 PM (9UJHz)
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I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: Eeyore
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Wish I were young enough to participate in the play.
Posted by: Eeyore
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Wish I were young enough to participate in the play.
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:39 PM (YdEcD)
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153 It's me donna, he is supposed to go on to the G7 meeting over there
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (v/nZx)
Yikes.. More humiliation for us
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (v/nZx)
Yikes.. More humiliation for us
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)
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I really, really just can't believe that 20% have taken their parents to a job interview.
It's like telling me a cloud is shitting skittles-- it's just too outrageous to be real.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
I believe it knowing a couple that feel it's fine to call their 24yo, live at home daughter's employer to discuss working conditions, schedules, job description, various grips. I wouldn't doubt they went to their kid's initial interview to have an "understanding" with the boss.
It's like telling me a cloud is shitting skittles-- it's just too outrageous to be real.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
I believe it knowing a couple that feel it's fine to call their 24yo, live at home daughter's employer to discuss working conditions, schedules, job description, various grips. I wouldn't doubt they went to their kid's initial interview to have an "understanding" with the boss.
Posted by: old chick at June 07, 2024 12:39 PM (F3Dlr)
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so who knows plumbing?
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (/7KEl)
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Meanwhile, employers are pursuing great lengths to avoid hiring a recent graduate, including offering more benefits for older employees (60%), paying higher salaries to older employees (59%), allowing older workers to work remotely or in a hybrid environment (48%) and hiring older employees for roles they're overqualified for (46%).
++++
Maybe my job hunt later this year will be better than I feared.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024
***
You can bring up your work ethic and productivity, and point to examples from your resume. The employer will be so relieved that you didn't bring your mom to the interview and are not asking for every other Friday off, they'll welcome you!
++++
Maybe my job hunt later this year will be better than I feared.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024
***
You can bring up your work ethic and productivity, and point to examples from your resume. The employer will be so relieved that you didn't bring your mom to the interview and are not asking for every other Friday off, they'll welcome you!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (J2vNu)
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Wish I were young enough to participate in the play.
Lazy Z is creating much opportunity.
Lazy Z is creating much opportunity.
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (YdEcD)
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Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
__________
Now that I'm retired I do much more than you think.
Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
__________
Now that I'm retired I do much more than you think.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (MoZTd)
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GOP campaign consultants have secured $450 million worth of TV advertising in Columbus, Ohio.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Lara Trump fired a bunch of those guys at the RNC in March and also fired the RNC chief counsel, aptly named Spies, that claimed there was no fraud in 2020 plus was big buddies with Marc Elias of Dem Lawfare fame.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Lara Trump fired a bunch of those guys at the RNC in March and also fired the RNC chief counsel, aptly named Spies, that claimed there was no fraud in 2020 plus was big buddies with Marc Elias of Dem Lawfare fame.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (WwRol)
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I had older parents. I am Gen X, but my parents were Greatest Generation (a term I don't care for, but that has become standard now).
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (v6JzV)
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Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (tmgMU)
AP, I hope you're time with him is well spent and long.
AP, I hope you're time with him is well spent and long.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (DIB8X)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Garrison Keillor?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (D7oie)
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I'm a tail-end boomer. I have a millennial and a Gen-Z kid.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Garrison Keillor?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (D7oie)
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I'm a tail-end boomer. I have a millennial and a Gen-Z kid.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (krQz2)
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How many different turds will he drop at the G7?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (tmgMU)
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"73 Whelp...
we are quickly approaching the point where the powers that be will need to cull a good portion of the young and working age folks to compensate for their terrible ideas..."
Umm...it won't be the younger generations that they're culling my friend.
we are quickly approaching the point where the powers that be will need to cull a good portion of the young and working age folks to compensate for their terrible ideas..."
Umm...it won't be the younger generations that they're culling my friend.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (hhO39)
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Now, with cell phones, e-mail and Zoom, they can pester you 24/7.
my favorite recent example of this was getting a Slack message while I was out on vacation
"I'm on vacation. There's an icon on slack indicating that."
'Yes i know, but...."
"yeah this can wait until next week"
Now, with cell phones, e-mail and Zoom, they can pester you 24/7.
my favorite recent example of this was getting a Slack message while I was out on vacation
"I'm on vacation. There's an icon on slack indicating that."
'Yes i know, but...."
"yeah this can wait until next week"
Posted by: brak at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (AR07F)
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144 this is kind of pissing me off sorry - mine work hard and are normal and I have one guy STILL looking for a summer job of any kind after a month of endless interviews (for fast food!?!?!)
the place he used to work at is struggling so down to bare bones, and a lot of places won't hire college students in the summer bc they have plenty of adults who will stay in the job - including dishwashing freaking jobs.
I feel so bad for him he's had probably 20 interviews. so far we are not at all helping him but if this last one (he's had three interviews and one in-person, for part time at a Wawa) falls thru (there are apparently 15 candidates) I have no choice but to pull favors. Which btw is what all the other parents do - out of necessity it seems like!
tons of previous summer kid jobs are now all illegals btw
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (s3qiR)
It's why I'm thankful my daughter got her research job half summer so early this year. All the camp counseling jobs for the 2nd half of the summer fell through, and she's got 2 years of experience doing them...it's rough, even for college kids, now...
the place he used to work at is struggling so down to bare bones, and a lot of places won't hire college students in the summer bc they have plenty of adults who will stay in the job - including dishwashing freaking jobs.
I feel so bad for him he's had probably 20 interviews. so far we are not at all helping him but if this last one (he's had three interviews and one in-person, for part time at a Wawa) falls thru (there are apparently 15 candidates) I have no choice but to pull favors. Which btw is what all the other parents do - out of necessity it seems like!
tons of previous summer kid jobs are now all illegals btw
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (s3qiR)
It's why I'm thankful my daughter got her research job half summer so early this year. All the camp counseling jobs for the 2nd half of the summer fell through, and she's got 2 years of experience doing them...it's rough, even for college kids, now...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (exHjb)
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Boomers and Silents together (advantage: Boomers) also begot Gen X, but X is *tiny.* I suspect this is due to both the advent of legal abortion (it was killed off in utero) and because the Boomers, compared to their parents, waited longer to get started on families. Not anything like today, but a bit longer.
I once saw it put very, very cynically and depressingly as "X are the kids Boomers had, but Millennials are the kids Boomers wanted to have." I don't know how much truth there is to that.
I once saw it put very, very cynically and depressingly as "X are the kids Boomers had, but Millennials are the kids Boomers wanted to have." I don't know how much truth there is to that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (d04cU)
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I'm a boomer, class of '53. We had our 3 kids when we were 30-40. All 3 of them are Millenials. They can't figure out Gen Z either
Posted by: Ex GOP at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (GpUII)
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I really get annoyed when I hear about attorneys who only take their obligations to clients seriously when it's personally convenient for them to do so. It's becoming clearer with each passing year that my concept of "duty" is increasingly outdated.
Posted by: Octochicken at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (oCS0o)
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"Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?"
I've got lots of projects for retirement. All my career I've been fixing other people's shit. I'm looking forward to just working on my own shit.
I've got lots of projects for retirement. All my career I've been fixing other people's shit. I'm looking forward to just working on my own shit.
Posted by: fd at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (vFG9F)
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138
Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (9UJHz)
_______
Time to read.
Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (9UJHz)
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Time to read.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (1bNHn)
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166 GOP campaign consultants have secured $450 million worth of TV advertising in Columbus, Ohio.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Lara Trump fired a bunch of those guys at the RNC in March and also fired the RNC chief counsel, aptly named Spies, that claimed there was no fraud in 2020 plus was big buddies with Marc Elias of Dem Lawfare fame.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (WwRol)
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I know, I know.
But it's going to take a lot to overcome my cynicism. It's up here *reaches up very high*.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Lara Trump fired a bunch of those guys at the RNC in March and also fired the RNC chief counsel, aptly named Spies, that claimed there was no fraud in 2020 plus was big buddies with Marc Elias of Dem Lawfare fame.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (WwRol)
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I know, I know.
But it's going to take a lot to overcome my cynicism. It's up here *reaches up very high*.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (GBKbO)
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My goodness,, I feel great today! Hmm think I'll download that tender app, you know,, see what's out there!
LETS DANCE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nmitAgitGY
LETS DANCE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nmitAgitGY
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (5hfjS)
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>"Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?"
remodel
finally
remodel
finally
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (/7KEl)
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Also, maybe it's a good thing that enrichers are taking our jobs. If Gen Z is any indication, at least the illegals had the nads to come here. Gen Z would have demanded we provide Ubers to bring them here.
I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (1bNHn)
Biden HAS used what is essentially Uber to get the illegals here.
I'm glad I'm old.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (1bNHn)
Biden HAS used what is essentially Uber to get the illegals here.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (D7oie)
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The *only* reason there is demand for these kinds of wages from these kinds of jobs is because of major dislocation and job scarcity resulting from the open border.
Dunno if it's right, but I think it might be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (d04cU)
I suspect that TPTB care no more for the illegals than they do for the native population. What they do care for is that there's a huge segment of economically illiterate people who'll hear that PoliticianX wants to give them a huge raise and say I'm in, baby. Most of them never, ever, figure out that the reason their lives and forever getting worse is because of the policies that they support.
Dunno if it's right, but I think it might be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (d04cU)
I suspect that TPTB care no more for the illegals than they do for the native population. What they do care for is that there's a huge segment of economically illiterate people who'll hear that PoliticianX wants to give them a huge raise and say I'm in, baby. Most of them never, ever, figure out that the reason their lives and forever getting worse is because of the policies that they support.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (IUd0M)
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“50% Asked For Unreasonable Compensation.”
We have raised a whole generation of entitled brats.
We have raised a whole generation of entitled brats.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lEGrV)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
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My parents are boomers, and old ones at that (though I was also unintended).
Virtually my entire cohort has Boomer parents. Most Millennials came from the Boomers. Before the cutesy name was developed in the late 90s, the "Millennial" generation were called the "Echo Boomers."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:35 PM (d04cU)
__________
The problem with the "millennials" is that they have made the age range far too broad and captured big portions of two generations. The whole point of a "millennial" is that they came of age at the turn of the century. That's a major society and cultural "block" of people. So that puts their DoB around 1990.
Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
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My parents are boomers, and old ones at that (though I was also unintended).
Virtually my entire cohort has Boomer parents. Most Millennials came from the Boomers. Before the cutesy name was developed in the late 90s, the "Millennial" generation were called the "Echo Boomers."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:35 PM (d04cU)
__________
The problem with the "millennials" is that they have made the age range far too broad and captured big portions of two generations. The whole point of a "millennial" is that they came of age at the turn of the century. That's a major society and cultural "block" of people. So that puts their DoB around 1990.
Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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This busty redhead in her underwear doesn't understand any of this:
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
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Afternoon.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (1Yy3c)
188
tons of previous summer kid jobs are now all illegals btw
Posted by: BlackOrchid
It's funny how our betters created the situation where it is impractical to hire Americans and then open the border to illegals.
Illegals are much cheaper, no benefits, no OSHA....
Posted by: BlackOrchid
It's funny how our betters created the situation where it is impractical to hire Americans and then open the border to illegals.
Illegals are much cheaper, no benefits, no OSHA....
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
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Sometimes I regret not going to law school . . . but then I recall the horror stories about law firms expecting you to put in 60-70 hour weeks, and I'm glad I didn't. That's my view too: If a job takes two people to do it and they are paying one, that's out.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (J2vNu)
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I saw Disqualifying Tincture open for Silver Jews at Blind Pig in 2006.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (NGa9E)
191
alrighty then
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (tmgMU)
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Diogenes, Erdogan has hosted Haniyeh for an extended stay
He also ended a multi billion trade deal with Israel
He also ended a multi billion trade deal with Israel
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (v/nZx)
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Maybe my job hunt later this year will be better than I feared.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024
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Getting a job is akin to getting a woman. You are more attractive to other women if you are with a woman. First things, take the job.
Then look for the job you want.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024
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Getting a job is akin to getting a woman. You are more attractive to other women if you are with a woman. First things, take the job.
Then look for the job you want.
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (YdEcD)
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This busty redhead in her underwear doesn't understand any of this:
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
____________
I'd boom-her
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
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I'd boom-her
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (iFTx/)
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I've got lots of projects for retirement. All my career I've been fixing other people's shit. I'm looking forward to just working on my own shit.
Posted by: fd at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (vFG9F)
Other than travel, I don't really have anything I want to do, and I'm already doing my share of traveling now.
I mean, sure, I could do more, and probably will. But otherwise, yard work is just work I'm not getting paid to do.
Posted by: fd at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (vFG9F)
Other than travel, I don't really have anything I want to do, and I'm already doing my share of traveling now.
I mean, sure, I could do more, and probably will. But otherwise, yard work is just work I'm not getting paid to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (9UJHz)
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I thought asking for unreasonable compensation would be like 80% .
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (SHMXB)
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I really, really just can't believe that 20% have taken their parents to a job interview.
When I went to college, there was one pay phone in my dorm, and I called my parents about once a month.
I was 600 miles from home, and I had to figure out how to solve problems by myself.
Now, with always-on connectivity, parents can micromanage their adult children's lives to an extent undreamed of by previous generations.
When I went to college, there was one pay phone in my dorm, and I called my parents about once a month.
I was 600 miles from home, and I had to figure out how to solve problems by myself.
Now, with always-on connectivity, parents can micromanage their adult children's lives to an extent undreamed of by previous generations.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)
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Not sure about Turkey. Even Erdogen isn't this stupid.
But who knows?
Posted by: Diogenes
Never underestimate the human capacity for stupid.
But who knows?
Posted by: Diogenes
Never underestimate the human capacity for stupid.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (xCA6C)
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186 This busty redhead in her underwear doesn't understand any of this:
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
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I don't get it.
3/10
Would not bang.
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
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I don't get it.
3/10
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (GBKbO)
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This busty redhead in her underwear doesn't understand any of this:
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
To be fair a girl like that doesn't need to understand anything beyond, "Look hot, put out, get free shit."
http://tiny.cc/zjjgyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)
To be fair a girl like that doesn't need to understand anything beyond, "Look hot, put out, get free shit."
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (1Yy3c)
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Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (9UJHz)
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Well for starters it has been months since I walked through Costco on a weekend.
The dog gets walked four times a day.
I golf whenever I want.
I go where ever I want, when I want.
I haven't driven in traffic in months and that was to go to the damned airport.
I hang out here a lot.
And I consult. Gotta get that beer money somehow.
I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM (9UJHz)
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Well for starters it has been months since I walked through Costco on a weekend.
The dog gets walked four times a day.
I golf whenever I want.
I go where ever I want, when I want.
I haven't driven in traffic in months and that was to go to the damned airport.
I hang out here a lot.
And I consult. Gotta get that beer money somehow.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (W/lyH)
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The problem with the "millennials" is that they have made the age range far too broad and captured big portions of two generations. The whole point of a "millennial" is that they came of age at the turn of the century. That's a major society and cultural "block" of people. So that puts their DoB around 1990.
Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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That's downstream from the Boomer definition, which is also a 20-year period.
It's one of the reasons the model has collapsed. It was all rooted from an exceptional condition: WWII. Demography was put on hold for half a decade and then everyone restarted all at once and went hard at it. It's historically *very* unusual, but recency bias has kept the "generations" game going past its point of usefulness.
Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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That's downstream from the Boomer definition, which is also a 20-year period.
It's one of the reasons the model has collapsed. It was all rooted from an exceptional condition: WWII. Demography was put on hold for half a decade and then everyone restarted all at once and went hard at it. It's historically *very* unusual, but recency bias has kept the "generations" game going past its point of usefulness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (d04cU)
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Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
Didn't we briefly have a "Gen Y" after GenX at some point? Where'd they go?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
Didn't we briefly have a "Gen Y" after GenX at some point? Where'd they go?
Posted by: Octochicken at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (oCS0o)
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It does sort of lend itself to imagining some darkly comic take on the "worst Interview possible." Guy or gal comes in wearing a pride shirt age uses slang the nterview doesn't know, can't maintain eye contact, asks whether they can leave at 3:00 on Friday, etc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (XkYcA)
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There’s an old mall complex nearby, and over the past few years it got a modernizing facade facelift. The work is all subpar. Basic things like the new stucco work looks like shit. I noticed long runs of newly installed exterior tin ceiling tiles were uneven and irregularly installed; no one knows how to use or snap a straight chalk line.
And despite code inspection - imagine the quality level of the electrical and plumbing work.
And despite code inspection - imagine the quality level of the electrical and plumbing work.
Posted by: 13times at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (iRIR3)
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It's why I'm thankful my daughter got her research job half summer so early this year. All the camp counseling jobs for the 2nd half of the summer fell through, and she's got 2 years of experience doing them...it's rough, even for college kids, now...
he thought he was going to go back to the place he worked at last summer and over college breaks. they kind of ghosted him then gave him the bad news they had to cut back.
lots of his friends still don't have summer jobs it is crazy. places here are struggling tho I don't think they're trying to be mean. the people working are overwhelmed but no one is hiring.
he thought he was going to go back to the place he worked at last summer and over college breaks. they kind of ghosted him then gave him the bad news they had to cut back.
lots of his friends still don't have summer jobs it is crazy. places here are struggling tho I don't think they're trying to be mean. the people working are overwhelmed but no one is hiring.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (s3qiR)
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How much of the 70-80 hour law firm week is driven by generating billable hours versus actual necessary work?
How much of the 70-80 hour law firm week is driven by generating billable hours versus actual necessary work?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (MoZTd)
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The problem with the "millennials" is that they have made the age range far too broad and captured big portions of two generations. The whole point of a "millennial" is that they came of age at the turn of the century. That's a major society and cultural "block" of people. So that puts their DoB around 1990.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Same thing with "boomers". I am a penultimate-year "boomer".
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Same thing with "boomers". I am a penultimate-year "boomer".
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (krQz2)
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I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Age with all its infirmities comes to all of us except those that die young.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Age with all its infirmities comes to all of us except those that die young.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (WwRol)
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my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM
You could help them set up normal pages. Pictures of them playing baseball, baking apple pies, helping little old ladies cross the street.
They don't post anything without your approval. I know employers now consider it 'due diligence' to check social media. Play the game to their benefit.
my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM
You could help them set up normal pages. Pictures of them playing baseball, baking apple pies, helping little old ladies cross the street.
They don't post anything without your approval. I know employers now consider it 'due diligence' to check social media. Play the game to their benefit.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (RKVpM)
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Diogenes, I have a question for you. Turkey and Iran have troops in Syria. Hezbollah, a terrorist organization, is based in Lebanon. Iraq allows Iranian militray to launch attacks from their territory. Yemen has Houthis firing on international shipping. Are any of these actual countries if they allow foreign armies and terrorist groups to usurp their territory and use it to launch attacks?
Does Lebanon actually have a government or their own troops? Does Syria? Do you people know that Turkey has actually taken over a part of Syria?
Hezbollah fired 1000 rockets into Israel in May and has set devastating fires and caused evacuations in the North of Israel.
This is allowed by the Lebanese government? Is their a government?
Does Lebanon actually have a government or their own troops? Does Syria? Do you people know that Turkey has actually taken over a part of Syria?
Hezbollah fired 1000 rockets into Israel in May and has set devastating fires and caused evacuations in the North of Israel.
This is allowed by the Lebanese government? Is their a government?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)
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Anyone who expects to 'get somewhere' working a forty hour week will never get there.
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (YdEcD)
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188 tons of previous summer kid jobs are now all illegals btw
Posted by: BlackOrchid
It's funny how our betters created the situation where it is impractical to hire Americans and then open the border to illegals.
Illegals are much cheaper, no benefits, no OSHA....
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
I'm wondering if these media stories about college kids are fed from self-serving companies who want to continue slave wages and no benefits...b/c it sure doesn't seem to be like posters' college kids...and most of our kids are getting screwed...sucks to a white Christian kid looking for a summer job, male or female...
Posted by: BlackOrchid
It's funny how our betters created the situation where it is impractical to hire Americans and then open the border to illegals.
Illegals are much cheaper, no benefits, no OSHA....
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
I'm wondering if these media stories about college kids are fed from self-serving companies who want to continue slave wages and no benefits...b/c it sure doesn't seem to be like posters' college kids...and most of our kids are getting screwed...sucks to a white Christian kid looking for a summer job, male or female...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (exHjb)
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Time to read.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (1bNHn)
I ain't got time to bleed.
Oh, you said read. I should probably get my eyes checked first.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:41 PM (1bNHn)
I ain't got time to bleed.
Oh, you said read. I should probably get my eyes checked first.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (9UJHz)
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Didn't we briefly have a "Gen Y" after GenX at some point? Where'd they go?
we got lumped in with Millennials -- the name was cuter
Didn't we briefly have a "Gen Y" after GenX at some point? Where'd they go?
we got lumped in with Millennials -- the name was cuter
Posted by: brak at June 07, 2024 12:46 PM (AR07F)
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Ace - Please! Why are you making us do without news about Fani Willis' sniz?
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 07, 2024 12:46 PM (zSyrn)
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Some 48 pages of Nashville tranny school shooter Audrey Hale's musings have finally been released. They're about what you'd expect.
https://tinyurl.com/dp83umpu
https://tinyurl.com/dp83umpu
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 07, 2024 12:46 PM (woPEM)
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Sometimes I regret not going to law school . . . but then I recall the horror stories about law firms expecting you to put in 60-70 hour weeks, and I'm glad I didn't. That's my view too: If a job takes two people to do it and they are paying one, that's out.
It's definitely a choice. Some take it, most don't.
It's definitely a choice. Some take it, most don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:46 PM (xCA6C)
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I'm looking forward to just working on my own shit.
Posted by: fd
I can help ya with that!
-- Joe Biden
Posted by: fd
I can help ya with that!
-- Joe Biden
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (v6JzV)
221
Maybe my job hunt later this year will be better than I feared.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (d04cU)
I suspect it depends a lot on the job area. In tech they certainly don't seem interested in hiring experienced old white guys when a young Indian will almost, sort of make do.
I doubt it, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:22 PM (d04cU)
I suspect it depends a lot on the job area. In tech they certainly don't seem interested in hiring experienced old white guys when a young Indian will almost, sort of make do.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (IUd0M)
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Painting , tennis , hanging with friends and taking care of the kittehs fill all my time in retirement.
Speaking of , I've posted my latest painting, John 8:58 , to my website under Still Life and Other.
Stuppleart.com
Speaking of , I've posted my latest painting, John 8:58 , to my website under Still Life and Other.
Stuppleart.com
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (SHMXB)
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Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024
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I understand it, and am devoutly wishing to make it happen for me soon. Trust me, though, I'd stay off the roads during rush hours if I have any choice at all.
I realize many of them up and die, but the rest of them clog up the roads during rush hour, going to Walgreens, Walmart, or the casino.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024
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I understand it, and am devoutly wishing to make it happen for me soon. Trust me, though, I'd stay off the roads during rush hours if I have any choice at all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (J2vNu)
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Plunked down the $190?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (tmgMU)
Found a coupon code on Reddit. $161 before tax. :B
I've made my bed. And my bed is now covered in Sharon Apple sheets.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:43 PM (tmgMU)
Found a coupon code on Reddit. $161 before tax. :B
I've made my bed. And my bed is now covered in Sharon Apple sheets.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (1Yy3c)
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Generations are like school zones. Your best friend across the street can go to a whole different school than you do.
I had a friend from the neighborhood that I never saw in school until junior high. And I walked to my grade school.
I had a friend from the neighborhood that I never saw in school until junior high. And I walked to my grade school.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (krQz2)
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How much of the 70-80 hour law firm week is driven by generating billable hours versus actual necessary work?
at least half -- it's pretty ridiculous
at least half -- it's pretty ridiculous
Posted by: brak at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (AR07F)
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208
How much of the 70-80 hour law firm week is driven by generating billable hours versus actual necessary work?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Guild system at work. Becoming a doctor or junior faculty member have similar career patterns.
How much of the 70-80 hour law firm week is driven by generating billable hours versus actual necessary work?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Guild system at work. Becoming a doctor or junior faculty member have similar career patterns.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (WwRol)
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"This is kind of pissing me off sorry - mine work hard and are normal and I have one guy STILL looking for a summer job of any kind after a month of endless interviews (for fast food!?!?!)"
There is a Public's by my house that is always supposedly hiring. My son has tried to get a job there a few times but you have to return very persistent and return multiple time and if lucky go through two or even three screening interviews as a friend told us. For $12 bagging groceries.
Seems a little over the top. Same with a lot of the big box stores in my area.
There is a Public's by my house that is always supposedly hiring. My son has tried to get a job there a few times but you have to return very persistent and return multiple time and if lucky go through two or even three screening interviews as a friend told us. For $12 bagging groceries.
Seems a little over the top. Same with a lot of the big box stores in my area.
Posted by: Ripley at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (JojsZ)
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I've made my bed. And my bed is now covered in Sharon Apple sheets.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (1Yy3c)
Kinky
I've made my bed. And my bed is now covered in Sharon Apple sheets.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2024 12:47 PM (1Yy3c)
Kinky
Posted by: It's me donna at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (Akjoo)
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Well for starters it has been months since I walked through Costco on a weekend.
The dog gets walked four times a day.
I golf whenever I want.
I go where ever I want, when I want.
I haven't driven in traffic in months and that was to go to the damned airport.
I hang out here a lot.
And I consult. Gotta get that beer money somehow.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (W/lyH)
I haven't had a dog for some time. I could get one of those. I think it would be cruel for me to have a dog now, I'm not here enough.
Speaking of, I took the day off because it's a travel day. Time to get busy getting not busy.
The dog gets walked four times a day.
I golf whenever I want.
I go where ever I want, when I want.
I haven't driven in traffic in months and that was to go to the damned airport.
I hang out here a lot.
And I consult. Gotta get that beer money somehow.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (W/lyH)
I haven't had a dog for some time. I could get one of those. I think it would be cruel for me to have a dog now, I'm not here enough.
Speaking of, I took the day off because it's a travel day. Time to get busy getting not busy.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (9UJHz)
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219 Sometimes I regret not going to law school . . . but then I recall the horror stories about law firms expecting you to put in 60-70 hour weeks, and I'm glad I didn't. That's my view too: If a job takes two people to do it and they are paying one, that's out.
It's definitely a choice. Some take it, most don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:46 PM (xCA6C)
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My sister went public defender.
She was rewarded by shitty pay, terrible bosses, and clients who threatened to rape her.
Oh, and she succeeded in unionizing the public defenders office which fixed absolutely none of the issues in the office but made her a target to her bosses.
It's definitely a choice. Some take it, most don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 12:46 PM (xCA6C)
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My sister went public defender.
She was rewarded by shitty pay, terrible bosses, and clients who threatened to rape her.
Oh, and she succeeded in unionizing the public defenders office which fixed absolutely none of the issues in the office but made her a target to her bosses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Seriously? There's basically a 32-year difference between those gens. That's smack dab in the middle of marriage/child-bearing age. My sister is a boomer and has millennial kids. I'm technically a boomer and my kids are zoomers.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Seriously? There's basically a 32-year difference between those gens. That's smack dab in the middle of marriage/child-bearing age. My sister is a boomer and has millennial kids. I'm technically a boomer and my kids are zoomers.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (VGRuw)
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Illegals are much cheaper, no benefits, no OSHA....
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
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Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
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Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (NGa9E)
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The only social media I ever used was LinkedIn. It was useful over the years. My status today, though, is 'retired' but the site continues to swamp me with job offers and invitations to connect with recruiters. It's amazing. These are jobs that are (used to be) in my field of expertise, but I get the impression that companies are not finding the people they need.
Of course LinkedIn has gone wholly GenZ woke, too, in the barmy solicitations their media outreach concoct. Truthfully, I'd dump the site in a heartbeat except that it is the only link that I have to Yemeni and Sudanese and Iranian coworkers I've known and have kept in touch with.
Of course LinkedIn has gone wholly GenZ woke, too, in the barmy solicitations their media outreach concoct. Truthfully, I'd dump the site in a heartbeat except that it is the only link that I have to Yemeni and Sudanese and Iranian coworkers I've known and have kept in touch with.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (TOe+Q)
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I'm wondering if these media stories about college kids are fed from self-serving companies who want to continue slave wages and no benefits...b/c it sure doesn't seem to be like posters' college kids...and most of our kids are getting screwed...sucks to a white Christian kid looking for a summer job, male or female...
yep honestly I think it's fake news
my eldest is doing a paid internship at a company that intends to hire her after grad. she's with a group of interns and they are all working very hard - a couple have graduated and hope to be hired so are doing the internship. no snowflakes whatsoever!
the other is working on roofs all summer, which is btw not too fun and it hasn't even gotten hot yet. and that job only happened b/c its his friend's dad's business
if you don't have a connection this summer you are SOL around here
yep honestly I think it's fake news
my eldest is doing a paid internship at a company that intends to hire her after grad. she's with a group of interns and they are all working very hard - a couple have graduated and hope to be hired so are doing the internship. no snowflakes whatsoever!
the other is working on roofs all summer, which is btw not too fun and it hasn't even gotten hot yet. and that job only happened b/c its his friend's dad's business
if you don't have a connection this summer you are SOL around here
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (s3qiR)
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Sharon Apple - "ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU ...."
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (tmgMU)
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207 It's why I'm thankful my daughter got her research job half summer so early this year. All the camp counseling jobs for the 2nd half of the summer fell through, and she's got 2 years of experience doing them...it's rough, even for college kids, now...
he thought he was going to go back to the place he worked at last summer and over college breaks. they kind of ghosted him then gave him the bad news they had to cut back.
lots of his friends still don't have summer jobs it is crazy. places here are struggling tho I don't think they're trying to be mean. the people working are overwhelmed but no one is hiring.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (s3qiR)
Her new job kept her from her being able to do her past counseling job, but she couldn't get the other ones at the same location (it's through the university and they run tons of camps) - just way too many applicants, and she did not have seniority coming in for the new camps, even if she did have experience and with the university...
he thought he was going to go back to the place he worked at last summer and over college breaks. they kind of ghosted him then gave him the bad news they had to cut back.
lots of his friends still don't have summer jobs it is crazy. places here are struggling tho I don't think they're trying to be mean. the people working are overwhelmed but no one is hiring.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (s3qiR)
Her new job kept her from her being able to do her past counseling job, but she couldn't get the other ones at the same location (it's through the university and they run tons of camps) - just way too many applicants, and she did not have seniority coming in for the new camps, even if she did have experience and with the university...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (exHjb)
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Sharon. Lebanon has a small standing army but they are overshadowed by hezbollah
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 12:49 PM (v/nZx)
239
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you get some quality time with him.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you get some quality time with him.
Posted by: scampydog at June 07, 2024 12:49 PM (AnbRd)
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It's funny how our betters created the situation where it is impractical to hire Americans and then open the border to illegals.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
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And that's just it. Many of American children *are* not hirable. They don't get enough perks or participation trophies.
But the one thing they are good at is spreading the rainbow company wide.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)
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And that's just it. Many of American children *are* not hirable. They don't get enough perks or participation trophies.
But the one thing they are good at is spreading the rainbow company wide.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (krQz2)
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If I have to choose between working with an Indian new hire or a Zoomer....I'm going India
You're part of the problem. Indians are racist as fuck, they lie about their job qualifications, which the Indian hiring managers dont care about. For every skilled employee laid off, they bring in 3 or more Indians and yet everyone else has to pick up the slack. They're not going to hire your kids.
If I have to choose between working with an Indian new hire or a Zoomer....I'm going India
You're part of the problem. Indians are racist as fuck, they lie about their job qualifications, which the Indian hiring managers dont care about. For every skilled employee laid off, they bring in 3 or more Indians and yet everyone else has to pick up the slack. They're not going to hire your kids.
Posted by: Kitchner Lesley at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (lw+nn)
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This is allowed by the Lebanese government? Is their a government?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)
Almost no country in the western Med is an actual government, but everyone pretends so they can still use them, and prevent someone else from taking it over.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)
Almost no country in the western Med is an actual government, but everyone pretends so they can still use them, and prevent someone else from taking it over.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (D7oie)
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I put in my extra time when I was younger. I think it's a thing you need to do to get ahead. Not forever though. Not much reward in that.
Posted by: fd at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (vFG9F)
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Awful interviewee . Woman aks" politically correct " question at interview "How is this company addressing DEI?" and "I hope there's training in sexual harassment?. To tell you the truth, Steve, I'm a little leery or working with men over 40 because of the tendency they have to engage in harassment.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (XkYcA)
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There is a Public's by my house that is always supposedly hiring. My son has tried to get a job there a few times but you have to return very persistent and return multiple time and if lucky go through two or even three screening interviews as a friend told us. For $12 bagging groceries.
Seems a little over the top. Same with a lot of the big box stores in my area.
Ripley glad to know it's not just us! he tried all the big box stores, plastered with signs that they're hiring - they weren't. they weren't hiring at all?!?! then why the signs?
then for grocery it's interview after interview ugh
fast food is just as bad
and forget normal restaurants they don't want just summer anymore, or they're hanging on by a thread
Seems a little over the top. Same with a lot of the big box stores in my area.
Ripley glad to know it's not just us! he tried all the big box stores, plastered with signs that they're hiring - they weren't. they weren't hiring at all?!?! then why the signs?
then for grocery it's interview after interview ugh
fast food is just as bad
and forget normal restaurants they don't want just summer anymore, or they're hanging on by a thread
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (s3qiR)
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Some jobs you just don't want, kid.
Posted by: Ship's Hedgehog at June 07, 2024 12:50 PM (Zz86T)
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A society with crashing birth rates can't survive.
A society with an undefended border can't survive.
A society with crippling debt can't survive.
A society with collapsing marriage rates can't survive.
A society where its participants see no hope in the future can't survive.
It's all tied together, of course, and there's much more besides - but this is just another log on the fire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (d04cU)
Wait until people wake up to the fact that it was all done on purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W55W6Zdk0z8 - you only need the first 15 seconds.
A society with an undefended border can't survive.
A society with crippling debt can't survive.
A society with collapsing marriage rates can't survive.
A society where its participants see no hope in the future can't survive.
It's all tied together, of course, and there's much more besides - but this is just another log on the fire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:24 PM (d04cU)
Wait until people wake up to the fact that it was all done on purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W55W6Zdk0z8 - you only need the first 15 seconds.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 12:51 PM (IUd0M)
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Gotta admit, since I retired and went 'back to work' it makes things so much better if you don't really need the job.
VP of Production comes out screaming about engineering delays and you can just calmly point out that all the engineering is released and we're just fixin the shit that his guys screwed up.
VP of Production comes out screaming about engineering delays and you can just calmly point out that all the engineering is released and we're just fixin the shit that his guys screwed up.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at June 07, 2024 12:51 PM (DIB8X)
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Well I went to my son Robbie's interview with the FBI. I don't see the problem. And I brought cookies!
Posted by: Marie Barone at June 07, 2024 12:51 PM (qUkBO)
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Just hired a Gen Z as a contractor on our dev team.
After the first week he was assigned a call sign:
{{Brainiac}}
Kid has a frigging chainsaw for a brain and the best C++ chops I've ever seen.
As far as "repudiating Social Security and Medicare" is concerned, this was already accomplished years ago when the "lock box" was raided and treasuries were used to stick the landing.
Any ways, TBH, I have never been able to reconcile 1) Having my money stolen and 2) being held hostage to Mediscare in order to get it back.
After the first week he was assigned a call sign:
{{Brainiac}}
Kid has a frigging chainsaw for a brain and the best C++ chops I've ever seen.
As far as "repudiating Social Security and Medicare" is concerned, this was already accomplished years ago when the "lock box" was raided and treasuries were used to stick the landing.
Any ways, TBH, I have never been able to reconcile 1) Having my money stolen and 2) being held hostage to Mediscare in order to get it back.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (MkuC5)
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Mexico is pretty much run by the cartels, too. At some point the cartels are going to stop trying to bribe/extort the government they want and just do home rule instead.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (XkYcA)
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (krQz2)
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"Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?"
When times were good I bought a big house with lots of land. I grow food, cut grass, trim hedges, split wood, take down trees, and maintain too much interior square footage for two people. It actually is a lot of work.
When I see how much Zillow figures my home has gone up in value every year, that's my paycheck. It's actually more then most years when I was working. Bidenomics - screwing our youth.
"Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?"
When times were good I bought a big house with lots of land. I grow food, cut grass, trim hedges, split wood, take down trees, and maintain too much interior square footage for two people. It actually is a lot of work.
When I see how much Zillow figures my home has gone up in value every year, that's my paycheck. It's actually more then most years when I was working. Bidenomics - screwing our youth.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (RKVpM)
Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (zcPgo)
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Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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That's downstream from the Boomer definition, which is also a 20-year period.
It's one of the reasons the model has collapsed. It was all rooted from an exceptional condition: WWII. Demography was put on hold for half a decade and then everyone restarted all at once and went hard at it. It's historically *very* unusual, but recency bias has kept the "generations" game going past its point of usefulness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (d04cU)
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I don't disagree, but I also think it works more or less for subsequent generations if -- only if -- you use my "definition" of generations that classify them by technological, societal, and cultural milestones:
Boomer: accepted definition
Gen X: generally children of (older?) boomers. Last generation to grow up analog (that part is key)
Millennials: grew up digital but before 24/7 social media
Z: grew up surrounded SM and all the toxicity that comes with it.
Alpha: FUCKED
for the Millennials
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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That's downstream from the Boomer definition, which is also a 20-year period.
It's one of the reasons the model has collapsed. It was all rooted from an exceptional condition: WWII. Demography was put on hold for half a decade and then everyone restarted all at once and went hard at it. It's historically *very* unusual, but recency bias has kept the "generations" game going past its point of usefulness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:44 PM (d04cU)
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I don't disagree, but I also think it works more or less for subsequent generations if -- only if -- you use my "definition" of generations that classify them by technological, societal, and cultural milestones:
Boomer: accepted definition
Gen X: generally children of (older?) boomers. Last generation to grow up analog (that part is key)
Millennials: grew up digital but before 24/7 social media
Z: grew up surrounded SM and all the toxicity that comes with it.
Alpha: FUCKED
for the Millennials
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (iFTx/)
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Almost no country in the western Med is an actual government, but everyone pretends so they can still use them, and prevent someone else from taking it over.
Posted by: Kindltot
That was my thought. Just keep taking the graft and living the life and to hell with the people.
Except for Israel. An the irony is that Israel is the only country that actually cares about it's people and is completely reviled byt he rest.
Posted by: Kindltot
That was my thought. Just keep taking the graft and living the life and to hell with the people.
Except for Israel. An the irony is that Israel is the only country that actually cares about it's people and is completely reviled byt he rest.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (t/2Uw)
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I did a job I hated for almost 35 years to pay the bills because that's just what I was taught you did. I never lived to work but rather worked to live and found satisfaction outside of my job.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (SHMXB)
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my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
I check social media as well before hiring and no social media presence is a positive...
I check social media as well before hiring and no social media presence is a positive...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (ibTVg)
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Boomers begot Millennials? I don't think so. Maybe some very young Boomers begot very old Millennials. But most boomers had kids that were Gen X. I know of no Boomer that has Millennial kids.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Seriously? There's basically a 32-year difference between those gens. That's smack dab in the middle of marriage/child-bearing age. My sister is a boomer and has millennial kids. I'm technically a boomer and my kids are zoomers.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2024
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I was born near the beginning of the Boomer period, Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 at the very end. If we'd had a kid in 1982, say, he'd have turned 18 in 2000 -- thus a millennial, right?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
Seriously? There's basically a 32-year difference between those gens. That's smack dab in the middle of marriage/child-bearing age. My sister is a boomer and has millennial kids. I'm technically a boomer and my kids are zoomers.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2024
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I was born near the beginning of the Boomer period, Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 at the very end. If we'd had a kid in 1982, say, he'd have turned 18 in 2000 -- thus a millennial, right?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (J2vNu)
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Kid has a frigging chainsaw for a brain and the best C++ chops I've ever seen.
honestly CZ=FNG thank you for saying this. I think they're hardworking, sharp kids in the main
I don't know about Women's Studies majors from Columbia lol but mine are all STEM and work freaking hard and are sharp
good job {{Brainiac}}!
honestly CZ=FNG thank you for saying this. I think they're hardworking, sharp kids in the main
I don't know about Women's Studies majors from Columbia lol but mine are all STEM and work freaking hard and are sharp
good job {{Brainiac}}!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (s3qiR)
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I suspect it depends a lot on the job area. In tech they certainly don't seem interested in hiring experienced old white guys when a young Indian will almost, sort of make do.
Posted by: I used to have a different
Our dot friends will 'do the needful'. Hell, that's all I hear in every interaction.
Posted by: I used to have a different
Our dot friends will 'do the needful'. Hell, that's all I hear in every interaction.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (WXNFJ)
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I'm wondering if these media stories about college kids are fed from self-serving companies who want to continue slave wages and no benefits...b/c it sure doesn't seem to be like posters' college kids...and most of our kids are getting screwed...sucks to a white Christian kid looking for a summer job, male or female...
Posted by: Nova Local
Proclaiming the virtue of one's own generation while dissing the yutes is a classic trope. Cicero talked smack about the upcoming generations by his "O Tempora, O Mores" (oh the times--oh the customs) line in speeches.
No different than proclaiming the virtue of the Greatest Generation etc or dumping on the Baby Boomers for everything wrong in current America.
Blame and praise should always be an individual thing rather than of a group but easy generalizations are always a human thing regarding other groups.
Posted by: Nova Local
Proclaiming the virtue of one's own generation while dissing the yutes is a classic trope. Cicero talked smack about the upcoming generations by his "O Tempora, O Mores" (oh the times--oh the customs) line in speeches.
No different than proclaiming the virtue of the Greatest Generation etc or dumping on the Baby Boomers for everything wrong in current America.
Blame and praise should always be an individual thing rather than of a group but easy generalizations are always a human thing regarding other groups.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (WwRol)
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Kid has a frigging chainsaw for a brain and the best C++ chops I've ever seen.
As far as "repudiating Social Security and Medicare" is concerned, this was already accomplished years ago when the "lock box" was raided and treasuries were used to stick the landing.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (MkuC5)
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And it's important to remember not to cast your net too wide.
There are sharp kids that are tireless workers in any generation.
However, I think there is a *trend* toward snowflakes. But this could just be my oldman mode.
As far as "repudiating Social Security and Medicare" is concerned, this was already accomplished years ago when the "lock box" was raided and treasuries were used to stick the landing.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 12:52 PM (MkuC5)
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And it's important to remember not to cast your net too wide.
There are sharp kids that are tireless workers in any generation.
However, I think there is a *trend* toward snowflakes. But this could just be my oldman mode.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:54 PM (krQz2)
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Thanks everyone.
I am three hours away and still working. So things are a bit difficult to coordinate.
I am three hours away and still working. So things are a bit difficult to coordinate.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:54 PM (tmgMU)
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Sharon Apple - "ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU ...."
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (tmgMU)
*Puts the old sheets with the giant hole back on*
Who knew Sharon Apple sheets would be so loud?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:48 PM (tmgMU)
*Puts the old sheets with the giant hole back on*
Who knew Sharon Apple sheets would be so loud?
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2024 12:54 PM (1Yy3c)
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258 I did a job I hated for almost 35 years to pay the bills because that's just what I was taught you did. I never lived to work but rather worked to live and found satisfaction outside of my job.
Posted by: polynikes
Wise.
Posted by: polynikes
Wise.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:55 PM (WwRol)
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-- The real minimum wage is zero.
-- "Growth in GDP that is below the rate of inflation is negative, and indicates a shrinking economy.
-- "Growth in GDP that is below the rate of inflation is negative, and indicates a shrinking economy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 07, 2024 12:55 PM (FCbAQ)
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My nephew is still a teenager but got a job at the booze store.
They liked him so much within a month he had keys to the store....
Good kid, but that was crazy.
They liked him so much within a month he had keys to the store....
Good kid, but that was crazy.
Posted by: Stateless at June 07, 2024 12:55 PM (jvJvP)
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Proclaiming the virtue of one's own generation while dissing the yutes is a classic trope. Cicero talked smack about the upcoming generations by his "O Tempora, O Mores" (oh the times--oh the customs) line in speeches.
No different than proclaiming the virtue of the Greatest Generation etc or dumping on the Baby Boomers for everything wrong in current America.
Blame and praise should always be an individual thing rather than of a group but easy generalizations are always a human thing regarding other groups.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (WwRol)
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I'm technically a Millennial, but I feel no real affinity with the generation. It's a similar situation my mother feels. She was born in 1960, and she feels like the whole portrayal of the 60s in popular culture completely sidesteps her own memories.
The only thing that really appealed to her sense of place for that time period was Apollo 10 1/2, about a 10 year old kid during the summer Apollo 11 launched.
Which is to say: I do not get involved in the generational wars. I don't consider myself part of any of the teams.
Proclaiming the virtue of one's own generation while dissing the yutes is a classic trope. Cicero talked smack about the upcoming generations by his "O Tempora, O Mores" (oh the times--oh the customs) line in speeches.
No different than proclaiming the virtue of the Greatest Generation etc or dumping on the Baby Boomers for everything wrong in current America.
Blame and praise should always be an individual thing rather than of a group but easy generalizations are always a human thing regarding other groups.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (WwRol)
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I'm technically a Millennial, but I feel no real affinity with the generation. It's a similar situation my mother feels. She was born in 1960, and she feels like the whole portrayal of the 60s in popular culture completely sidesteps her own memories.
The only thing that really appealed to her sense of place for that time period was Apollo 10 1/2, about a 10 year old kid during the summer Apollo 11 launched.
Which is to say: I do not get involved in the generational wars. I don't consider myself part of any of the teams.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Hell, when I first broke into IT, I caught catnaps at my desk in the middle of the night waiting for a production run to finish. A 48-hour run at the office was not unusual. It was hellish at times but I just assumed that was what was expected. I was just glad to have a job.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2024 12:56 PM (mH6SG)
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" I'm glad that Gen Z is killing it's the expectation that four people will do the amount of work that should be done by eight, sacrificing their nights and weekends, social life and time with their family just to eke out a living."
The trick is to work remotely 20 hours a week, and convince your employer you are really working over 40. Tech stuff is not like factory work ...hard to quantify how long something takes.
The trick is to work remotely 20 hours a week, and convince your employer you are really working over 40. Tech stuff is not like factory work ...hard to quantify how long something takes.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 07, 2024 12:56 PM (Cus5s)
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With Sharon Apple you should be more concerned about her meglomania.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM (tmgMU)
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Proclaiming the virtue of one's own generation while dissing the yutes is a classic trope.
after years of all these "damn these millennials" stories it's now my turn to join in bashing the next generation
after years of all these "damn these millennials" stories it's now my turn to join in bashing the next generation
Posted by: brak at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM (AR07F)
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Our dot friends will 'do the needful'. Hell, that's all I hear in every interaction.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (WXNFJ)
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Kindly.
Kindly do the needful.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (WXNFJ)
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Kindly.
Kindly do the needful.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM (d04cU)
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My nephew is still a teenager but got a job at the booze store.
They liked him so much within a month he had keys to the store....
Good kid, but that was crazy.
Posted by: Stateless
He's underage? Is it even legal for the liquor store to hire him?
They liked him so much within a month he had keys to the store....
Good kid, but that was crazy.
Posted by: Stateless
He's underage? Is it even legal for the liquor store to hire him?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM (v6JzV)
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Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM
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Some people -- it's not important who -- were cursed to be talented at a dull but marketable skill and have a basement full of blank canvases ready for the blessed day they can start slamming that.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2024 12:37 PM
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Some people -- it's not important who -- were cursed to be talented at a dull but marketable skill and have a basement full of blank canvases ready for the blessed day they can start slamming that.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM (wzAuc)
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I did a job I hated for almost 35 years to pay the bills because that's just what I was taught you did. I never lived to work but rather worked to live and found satisfaction outside of my job.
Posted by: polynikes
Me too. I made a good living and was good at it. But I honestly felt like an imposter the entire time.
Interesting, isn't it?
Posted by: polynikes
Me too. I made a good living and was good at it. But I honestly felt like an imposter the entire time.
Interesting, isn't it?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM (WXNFJ)
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If I ever asked my father to come with me to a job interview not only would i get a slap to the back of the head, but he would have openly acknowledged to have failed to raise me to be an adult or a man.
Unbelievable.
If I ever asked my father to come with me to a job interview not only would i get a slap to the back of the head, but he would have openly acknowledged to have failed to raise me to be an adult or a man.
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (+oR7L)
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Working with India I've found that if you hire good people they will give you exactly what you ask for.
And God help you if you don't ask for exactly what you need. They aren't going to ask "are you sure you want this because it looks like a lot of work vs I could do it this other way for a quarter of the hours". You need Americans for that...
And God help you if you don't ask for exactly what you need. They aren't going to ask "are you sure you want this because it looks like a lot of work vs I could do it this other way for a quarter of the hours". You need Americans for that...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (ibTVg)
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Except for Israel. An the irony is that Israel is the only country that actually cares about it's people and is completely reviled byt he rest.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (t/2Uw)
what is going on in Israel is inevitable. The founding myth (not lie, not made up belief, but the actual founding ideal of the state of Israel) is "no more pogroms"
Live or die, that is their basic assumption in the world, and to turn their backs on it would be to agree to die socially, culturally and in actual dying-dying;
the various Western Med states don't seem to have a foundational myth beyond, "stuff my pockets and keep out of the view of the rulers" which doesn't fill potholes or rebuild sewers.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (t/2Uw)
what is going on in Israel is inevitable. The founding myth (not lie, not made up belief, but the actual founding ideal of the state of Israel) is "no more pogroms"
Live or die, that is their basic assumption in the world, and to turn their backs on it would be to agree to die socially, culturally and in actual dying-dying;
the various Western Med states don't seem to have a foundational myth beyond, "stuff my pockets and keep out of the view of the rulers" which doesn't fill potholes or rebuild sewers.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (D7oie)
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However, I think there is a *trend* toward snowflakes. But this could just be my oldman mode.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:54 PM (krQz2)
No - you're completely correct. My experience simply points out that there are shining bright spots out there.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 12:54 PM (krQz2)
No - you're completely correct. My experience simply points out that there are shining bright spots out there.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (MkuC5)
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Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (ibTVg)
Only social media my son has is a group where they talk about old musicians, primarily The Beatles and Pink Floyd and a group that discusses the movies of Stanley Kubrick.
Only social media my son has is a group where they talk about old musicians, primarily The Beatles and Pink Floyd and a group that discusses the movies of Stanley Kubrick.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (XkYcA)
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Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw) at 212
You cannot take these events as a collective whole. Each is a separate situation with unique circumstances.
Iran and Turkey have troops in Syria (although I'm not sure how many or how deep, and the main reason is the Kurds, who are persistent in their survival and in their ability to be a hinderance.
There is precious little Iraq can do about the Iranians. Iraq is a basket case and has a significant minority of elites who are, at the least, in agreement with Iran.
Yemen does what Iran tells them, while fighting their own little civil war that no one cares about.
Lebanon has always been four enclaves that include, Islamists (Sunni and Shia in about equal numbers), Christians, Greeks of various faiths, and Druze. They got along well until the 70's when Arafat tried to take over. Downhill ever since.
Syria is a mess. Frankly I'm surprised the al-Assad is still in charge.
Sometimes one of the best ways to look at some governments in the ME is to think of gangs in NY. Who controls what turf, who's the biggest dude on the corner, etc. Simplistic, but it can explain a lot.
You cannot take these events as a collective whole. Each is a separate situation with unique circumstances.
Iran and Turkey have troops in Syria (although I'm not sure how many or how deep, and the main reason is the Kurds, who are persistent in their survival and in their ability to be a hinderance.
There is precious little Iraq can do about the Iranians. Iraq is a basket case and has a significant minority of elites who are, at the least, in agreement with Iran.
Yemen does what Iran tells them, while fighting their own little civil war that no one cares about.
Lebanon has always been four enclaves that include, Islamists (Sunni and Shia in about equal numbers), Christians, Greeks of various faiths, and Druze. They got along well until the 70's when Arafat tried to take over. Downhill ever since.
Syria is a mess. Frankly I'm surprised the al-Assad is still in charge.
Sometimes one of the best ways to look at some governments in the ME is to think of gangs in NY. Who controls what turf, who's the biggest dude on the corner, etc. Simplistic, but it can explain a lot.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (W/lyH)
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I do not at all understand people that get "fulfillment" at work.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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However, I think there is a *trend* toward snowflakes. But this could just be my oldman mode.
Well, the old men used to call us in GenX "slackers".
It seems now evident that "whatever, dude" although annoying as a response is a better response than "that's not funny and I feel harassed".
Well, the old men used to call us in GenX "slackers".
It seems now evident that "whatever, dude" although annoying as a response is a better response than "that's not funny and I feel harassed".
Posted by: the 1990s called at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (gKWVE)
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Which is to say: I do not get involved in the generational wars. I don't consider myself part of any of the teams.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I stay out of them as well but it is a very human thing to do regarding in group and out group. Other than GOPe in office which has demonstrated over and over again its treachery, grifting, and overall evil deeds in office, I prefer not to do the whole in group out group thing.
The GOPe and Uniparty Dems don't count as a category because they are lizard people and not properly human at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I stay out of them as well but it is a very human thing to do regarding in group and out group. Other than GOPe in office which has demonstrated over and over again its treachery, grifting, and overall evil deeds in office, I prefer not to do the whole in group out group thing.
The GOPe and Uniparty Dems don't count as a category because they are lizard people and not properly human at all.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (WwRol)
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I saw The Barmy Solicitations open for the Sneaker Pimps at Moe's in '97.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (NGa9E)
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:00 PM (krQz2)
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Embrace anti-natalism, and let some other species run the world.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (1bNHn)
The males of that species will all be named some variant of Mohammed.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (1bNHn)
The males of that species will all be named some variant of Mohammed.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 01:00 PM (IUd0M)
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Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (ibTVg)
Third world countries are that way because of the 'good enough' attitude.
Unfortunately I think the newer generation in the US is starting to have some of that attitude.
Third world countries are that way because of the 'good enough' attitude.
Unfortunately I think the newer generation in the US is starting to have some of that attitude.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:00 PM (SHMXB)
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Back in the early 90's we once had a guy show up for an interview wearing shorts. My boss looked at him and told him "go interview for a lifeguard".
We still laugh about that idiot.
Back in the early 90's we once had a guy show up for an interview wearing shorts. My boss looked at him and told him "go interview for a lifeguard".
We still laugh about that idiot.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 07, 2024 01:00 PM (+oR7L)
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my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM
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Absolutely not. 99% of employer scrutiny of social media is looking for disqualifiers. Almost nothing good can come of it assuming all relevant experience and qualifications are on their resumes.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM
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Absolutely not. 99% of employer scrutiny of social media is looking for disqualifiers. Almost nothing good can come of it assuming all relevant experience and qualifications are on their resumes.
Posted by: Bigsmith at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (MiYte)
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I'm technically a Millennial, but I feel no real affinity with the generation. It's a similar situation my mother feels. She was born in 1960, and she feels like the whole portrayal of the 60s in popular culture completely sidesteps her own memories.
The only thing that really appealed to her sense of place for that time period was Apollo 10 1/2, about a 10 year old kid during the summer Apollo 11 launched.
Which is to say: I do not get involved in the generational wars. I don't consider myself part of any of the teams.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:56 PM
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As a late Boomer, I endorse this. Big difference between Boomers who were "of age" in the '60s and those of us who were little kids.
The only thing that really appealed to her sense of place for that time period was Apollo 10 1/2, about a 10 year old kid during the summer Apollo 11 launched.
Which is to say: I do not get involved in the generational wars. I don't consider myself part of any of the teams.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 12:56 PM
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As a late Boomer, I endorse this. Big difference between Boomers who were "of age" in the '60s and those of us who were little kids.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (wzAuc)
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287 I stay out of them as well but it is a very human thing to do regarding in group and out group. Other than GOPe in office which has demonstrated over and over again its treachery, grifting, and overall evil deeds in office, I prefer not to do the whole in group out group thing.
The GOPe and Uniparty Dems don't count as a category because they are lizard people and not properly human at all.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (WwRol)
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I've never felt the need to be part of a group, like, ever.
I can think back to grade school when I was perfectly fine being the only kid in class who read Star Wars Expanded Universe books. It didn't matter that no one else read it or that I didn't have anyone to talk about them with, I was happy to enjoy what I did on my own.
That seems to extend to my sense of community, which is very narrow. I'm a member of my family and my church, and that's kind of it. Heck, even within my family, I don't need to enjoy the same things as the rest.
The GOPe and Uniparty Dems don't count as a category because they are lizard people and not properly human at all.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (WwRol)
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I've never felt the need to be part of a group, like, ever.
I can think back to grade school when I was perfectly fine being the only kid in class who read Star Wars Expanded Universe books. It didn't matter that no one else read it or that I didn't have anyone to talk about them with, I was happy to enjoy what I did on my own.
That seems to extend to my sense of community, which is very narrow. I'm a member of my family and my church, and that's kind of it. Heck, even within my family, I don't need to enjoy the same things as the rest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Labor laws and liability laws have totally altered the summer job and initial (first job) hiring. You can't hire and fire.
Today it's hire forever or hire and be sued.
Employees are running the factory which is not a productive system.
Today it's hire forever or hire and be sued.
Employees are running the factory which is not a productive system.
Posted by: Braenyard - at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (YdEcD)
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@155 to be fair GG Allin was a lunatic. A friend saw him and Allin was doing the Daltrey mike lasso and he lost control and the mike hit him in the nuts. He was taken from the venue in an ambulance. OD 'd a few weeks later
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (BWgFn)
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U.S. adds a much-better-than-expected 272,000 jobs in May, but unemployment rate edges up to 4%
Corporate media have a sad, although they will find something to blame Pres Biden.
"Unemployment SKYROCKETS. Biden DOOMED" /s
"wage inflation". Biden is hurting our hard working job creators somehow. "nobody wants to work anymore"
Wage growth 4.1% year over year. +0.4% just in March. Fed isn't going to like people making more money.
Especially with a Democrat running for re-election. All - or most - of those rate hikes in 2022-23 were designed to "Gore" Biden - that is, to slow the economy just enough to give even the worst, most clownish GOP candidate a real chance at winning.
Just like Greenspin did to Gore in '99-2000.
People are working, people have money, people are spending, the economy does great when this is happening. ALL their praying for a recession isn't going to work because this economy is buiot by working people, the US economy always is. And working people are doing better now
Corporate media have a sad, although they will find something to blame Pres Biden.
"Unemployment SKYROCKETS. Biden DOOMED" /s
"wage inflation". Biden is hurting our hard working job creators somehow. "nobody wants to work anymore"
Wage growth 4.1% year over year. +0.4% just in March. Fed isn't going to like people making more money.
Especially with a Democrat running for re-election. All - or most - of those rate hikes in 2022-23 were designed to "Gore" Biden - that is, to slow the economy just enough to give even the worst, most clownish GOP candidate a real chance at winning.
Just like Greenspin did to Gore in '99-2000.
People are working, people have money, people are spending, the economy does great when this is happening. ALL their praying for a recession isn't going to work because this economy is buiot by working people, the US economy always is. And working people are doing better now
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (JCZqz)
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Folks are talking about the "Western Med," when what they really seem to mean is the "Eastern Med." The Western Med is Spain, Morocco, etc. The Eastern Med is Turkey, the Levant, Egypt, etc.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (v6JzV)
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And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
So does he not fire them because this is the best he can hire?
I've been a lawyer for a bit over two decades now. It's definitely not a career path that features a lot of free time (outside maybe some gov't gigs).
So does he not fire them because this is the best he can hire?
I've been a lawyer for a bit over two decades now. It's definitely not a career path that features a lot of free time (outside maybe some gov't gigs).
Posted by: I'd Fire Them at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (+RNLW)
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15 "Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview."
That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Possibly this high number is because in some jurisdictions parents must accompany minors on interviews. That wasn't true when I interviewed for my first job -- as a dishwasher -- at 16. But today? Maybe.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
I think that the way to read that is "19% of the people surveyed said that they had at least one interviewee (out of all the ones they had) bring momsie or daddah at some point" NOT that fully 19% of interviewees bring them.
I hope.
That can't possibly be right. 20%? Come on now. I'm sure a few limpdicks with overbearing parents do show up at interviews with parents. But 20%?
Possibly this high number is because in some jurisdictions parents must accompany minors on interviews. That wasn't true when I interviewed for my first job -- as a dishwasher -- at 16. But today? Maybe.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
I think that the way to read that is "19% of the people surveyed said that they had at least one interviewee (out of all the ones they had) bring momsie or daddah at some point" NOT that fully 19% of interviewees bring them.
I hope.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (9DX0S)
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Gotta admit, I don't really understand the concept of retirement. What do people do?
Whatever I want. Go to bed when I want. Get up when I want. It's freedom. I needed my job to pay the bills, not define my life.
Whatever I want. Go to bed when I want. Get up when I want. It's freedom. I needed my job to pay the bills, not define my life.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (IUd0M)
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Big difference between Boomers who were "of age" in the '60s and those of us who were little kids.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (wzAuc)
^^^^^^^^^^^
This.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (wzAuc)
^^^^^^^^^^^
This.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (MkuC5)
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I don't need to enjoy the same things as the rest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Prometheus has entered the chat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Prometheus has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (v6JzV)
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It's a similar situation my mother feels. She was born in 1960, and she feels like the whole portrayal of the 60s in popular culture completely sidesteps her own memories. . . .
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Your Mom was born in 1960?!
I have shoes older than you!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Your Mom was born in 1960?!
I have shoes older than you!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (WXNFJ)
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Lebanon has always been four enclaves that include, Islamists (Sunni and Shia in about equal numbers), Christians, Greeks of various faiths, and Druze. They got along well until the 70's when Arafat tried to take over. Downhill ever since.
Syria is a mess. Frankly I'm surprised the al-Assad is still in charge.
Sometimes one of the best ways to look at some governments in the ME is to think of gangs in NY. Who controls what turf, who's the biggest dude on the corner, etc. Simplistic, but it can explain a lot.
Posted by: Diogenes
Umm, there was a spot of trouble in Lebanon in 1958 requiring US intervention far before the PLO.
Basically Lebanon is a perfect example of how demographic diversity literally destroys a country internally. The Maronite Christians got the upper hand after teh Ottoman Empire was expelled post WWI and uses its western connections to take a whip hand in government over the other groups. Due to a difference in birthrates among groups and outflows to Europe, the position of Lebanese Christians got more and more precarious at the same time that the Constitution guaranteed their ability to stymie any political reform to recognize facts on the ground.
Syria is a mess. Frankly I'm surprised the al-Assad is still in charge.
Sometimes one of the best ways to look at some governments in the ME is to think of gangs in NY. Who controls what turf, who's the biggest dude on the corner, etc. Simplistic, but it can explain a lot.
Posted by: Diogenes
Umm, there was a spot of trouble in Lebanon in 1958 requiring US intervention far before the PLO.
Basically Lebanon is a perfect example of how demographic diversity literally destroys a country internally. The Maronite Christians got the upper hand after teh Ottoman Empire was expelled post WWI and uses its western connections to take a whip hand in government over the other groups. Due to a difference in birthrates among groups and outflows to Europe, the position of Lebanese Christians got more and more precarious at the same time that the Constitution guaranteed their ability to stymie any political reform to recognize facts on the ground.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (WwRol)
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Lazy white Americans won’t work. Hard working brown people have to pickup the slack.
Posted by: Troll at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (bQ6nh)
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"Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old."
And yet you think that someone born in 1946 has a lot in common with someone born in 1964.You'd call them both Boomers
And yet you think that someone born in 1946 has a lot in common with someone born in 1964.You'd call them both Boomers
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (xjTDL)
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I do not at all understand people that get "fulfillment" at work.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
And then for people like me (who had and still have very low self-esteem), it helps provides some level of self-esteem and respect from others.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
And then for people like me (who had and still have very low self-esteem), it helps provides some level of self-esteem and respect from others.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 01:04 PM (NGa9E)
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305 Your Mom was born in 1960?!
I have shoes older than you!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (WXNFJ)
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As Dolley says, y'all are old and weird.
I have shoes older than you!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (WXNFJ)
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As Dolley says, y'all are old and weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:53 PM (ibTVg)
Only social media my son has is a group where they talk about old musicians, primarily The Beatles and Pink Floyd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (XkYcA)
Let us know when he's ready to get serious about music.
Only social media my son has is a group where they talk about old musicians, primarily The Beatles and Pink Floyd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 12:58 PM (XkYcA)
Let us know when he's ready to get serious about music.
Posted by: Frank Zappa Fans at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (1Yy3c)
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Nobody's got any quatloos on the newcomers?
How do we know quatloos are spelled with "qua" instead of "kwa"?
It's never spelled out in the episode. Did some nerd get his hands on a script once, or has it just become the convention because it looks more exotic?
How do we know quatloos are spelled with "qua" instead of "kwa"?
It's never spelled out in the episode. Did some nerd get his hands on a script once, or has it just become the convention because it looks more exotic?
Posted by: spindrift at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (OguvZ)
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I did a job I hated for almost 35 years to pay the bills because that's just what I was taught you did. I never lived to work but rather worked to live and found satisfaction outside of my job.
Posted by: polynikes
Me too. I made a good living and was good at it. But I honestly felt like an imposter the entire time.
Interesting, isn't it?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM
My wife gets a little angry with me when I said I'd never want to live the life I endured over again. I did it because there was no choice. My worst nightmares put me back behind the desk again dealing with an endless stream of problems.
Puking on the way into work out of fear of what the day would bring? That was me. OSHA and the IRS were just two of my combatants. There were a lot more. In the mail every day, the state vs DBZ.
I did a job I hated for almost 35 years to pay the bills because that's just what I was taught you did. I never lived to work but rather worked to live and found satisfaction outside of my job.
Posted by: polynikes
Me too. I made a good living and was good at it. But I honestly felt like an imposter the entire time.
Interesting, isn't it?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 12:57 PM
My wife gets a little angry with me when I said I'd never want to live the life I endured over again. I did it because there was no choice. My worst nightmares put me back behind the desk again dealing with an endless stream of problems.
Puking on the way into work out of fear of what the day would bring? That was me. OSHA and the IRS were just two of my combatants. There were a lot more. In the mail every day, the state vs DBZ.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (RKVpM)
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305 It's a similar situation my mother feels. She was born in 1960, and she feels like the whole portrayal of the 60s in popular culture completely sidesteps her own memories. . . .
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Your Mom was born in 1960?!
I have shoes older than you!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (WXNFJ)
It's not that weird. Mine was born in 1959.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Your Mom was born in 1960?!
I have shoes older than you!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (WXNFJ)
It's not that weird. Mine was born in 1959.
Posted by: XTC at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (UnA8+)
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@155 to be fair GG Allin was a lunatic. A friend saw him and Allin was doing the Daltrey mike lasso and he lost control and the mike hit him in the nuts. He was taken from the venue in an ambulance. OD 'd a few weeks later
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (BWgFn)
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But he was a "legendary punk", or something.
Yeah, I remember when he passed. I think I was in a Hampton Inn Breakfast room.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (BWgFn)
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But he was a "legendary punk", or something.
Yeah, I remember when he passed. I think I was in a Hampton Inn Breakfast room.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (krQz2)
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Let us know when he's ready to get serious about music.
Posted by: Frank Zappa Fans at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (1Yy3c)
"Bicycle People" was as serious as it gets.
Posted by: Frank Zappa Fans at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (1Yy3c)
"Bicycle People" was as serious as it gets.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (MkuC5)
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>>Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM
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They go to their "corporate media" canard like a dog to its own vomit.
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They go to their "corporate media" canard like a dog to its own vomit.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:06 PM (wzAuc)
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Well, when most of your daily "interactions" with people don't involve eye contact, it's not too surprising. Even if someone has to do a presentation in front of a group, they can focus on their screen for it.
Posted by: pookysgirl, interacting with the grey boxes at June 07, 2024 01:06 PM (dtlDP)
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whig,
Spot on.
I had a prof from Beruit who would talk up the ability of the groups there to get along. But if you got a couple of beers into him, he'd admit there was trouble brewing and had been for a long time.
Spot on.
I had a prof from Beruit who would talk up the ability of the groups there to get along. But if you got a couple of beers into him, he'd admit there was trouble brewing and had been for a long time.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 01:06 PM (W/lyH)
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As a late Boomer, I endorse this. Big difference between Boomers who were "of age" in the '60s and those of us who were little kids.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
"Generation Jones" is the term that has been coined for the late Boomers and the early Xers. My wife is a late Boomer, and I am an early Xer, and generally we have more cultural references in common with each other than with our older Boomer siblings.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
"Generation Jones" is the term that has been coined for the late Boomers and the early Xers. My wife is a late Boomer, and I am an early Xer, and generally we have more cultural references in common with each other than with our older Boomer siblings.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 01:06 PM (v6JzV)
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In a way by tolerating these terrorist factions on their soil, they can be antagonistic towards Israel without any of the negative reesults such as inability to trade and seem benevolent on the word stage and Israel can;t go to war with the "country". So, it never ends.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 01:06 PM (t/2Uw)
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Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
I get fulfillment from my work. Not being Joel Osteen it's not as if I'm rolling in money from it.
I get fulfillment from my work. Not being Joel Osteen it's not as if I'm rolling in money from it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 01:06 PM (XkYcA)
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re 267: j s bach had four sons who were musicians. in the middle was c p e bach, considered the father of what we call the symphony. he once said about his younger brother johann 'he lives to write music, i write music to live'
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 07, 2024 01:07 PM (B1FKF)
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That seems to extend to my sense of community, which is very narrow. I'm a member of my family and my church, and that's kind of it. Heck, even within my family, I don't need to enjoy the same things as the rest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Inward focusing individuals versus those that focus outward is a thing since humans were created. Been amusing myself recently re-watching the 1960's Prisoner TV series which is a metaphor for individual versus community conflict.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Inward focusing individuals versus those that focus outward is a thing since humans were created. Been amusing myself recently re-watching the 1960's Prisoner TV series which is a metaphor for individual versus community conflict.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 01:07 PM (WwRol)
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The Western Med is Spain, Morocco, etc. The Eastern Med is Turkey, the Levant, Egypt, etc.
Wow. Do go on!
Wow. Do go on!
Posted by: Emperor Diocletian at June 07, 2024 01:07 PM (gKWVE)
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I remember in the 80's the punkers were going to legislatures to get anti discrimination laws passed so they could work.
There were provisions for hair cuts and tattoos that are all gone now as discriminatory.
BTW. Huge tits tattooed on your forearm will still get you discriminated against, just for other reasons.
I had an acquaintance that did that. The cover up tattoo looked like a 3rd grader drawn picture of Shamoo and didn't help his prospects much.
There were provisions for hair cuts and tattoos that are all gone now as discriminatory.
BTW. Huge tits tattooed on your forearm will still get you discriminated against, just for other reasons.
I had an acquaintance that did that. The cover up tattoo looked like a 3rd grader drawn picture of Shamoo and didn't help his prospects much.
Posted by: Reforger at June 07, 2024 01:07 PM (xcIvR)
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Black Orchid ... Suggestion for your son ... Register with at least one local temp agency ... Many corporations contract with temp agencies to fill positions for short-term projects ... Many corporations also use temp agencies to simply screen potential employees (rather than bringing them into their H.R. Departments) ... And even if your son doesn't get a job for this summer, the experience of being tested at the agency and provided much position feedback about his skills will be a great confidence-booster. ...
Posted by: Kathy at June 07, 2024 01:08 PM (p69D5)
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@155 to be fair GG Allin was a lunatic. A friend saw him and Allin was doing the Daltrey mike lasso and he lost control and the mike hit him in the nuts. He was taken from the venue in an ambulance. OD 'd a few weeks later
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (BWgFn)
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But he was a "legendary punk", or something.
Yeah, I remember when he passed. I think I was in a Hampton Inn Breakfast room.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (krQz2)
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There's a fairly interesting documentary on GG called "Murder Junkies." Directed by Todd Philips. Yes, that Todd Philips. GG was seriously mentally ill.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 07, 2024 01:02 PM (BWgFn)
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But he was a "legendary punk", or something.
Yeah, I remember when he passed. I think I was in a Hampton Inn Breakfast room.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:05 PM (krQz2)
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There's a fairly interesting documentary on GG called "Murder Junkies." Directed by Todd Philips. Yes, that Todd Philips. GG was seriously mentally ill.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 01:08 PM (iFTx/)
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j s bach had four sons who were musicians. in the middle was c p e bach, considered the father of what we call the symphony. he once said about his younger brother johann 'he lives to write music, i write music to live'
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 07, 2024 01:07 PM (B1FKF)
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I think I've heard of PDQ Bach.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 07, 2024 01:07 PM (B1FKF)
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I think I've heard of PDQ Bach.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:09 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2024 01:09 PM (mH6SG)
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thanks Kathy I will tell him!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 01:09 PM (s3qiR)
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Working with India I've found that if you hire good people they will give you exactly what you ask for.
And God help you if you don't ask for exactly what you need. They aren't going to ask "are you sure you want this because it looks like a lot of work vs I could do it this other way for a quarter of the hours". You need Americans for that...
In my experience, the really good Indian programmers are all here in the US. Your observation that you have to ask for EXACTLY what you want matches what I've seen. I've seen near zero motivation to make sure code makes sense in the program ecosystem or that it's the best solution possible. You asked for X, I jammed ~X in there sideways and it doesn't compile but here you go.
Also, every team in India I've ever worked with WILL blow you off and disappear when they feel like it without notice. You'll find out three days later there was a wedding or a local festival or something, but they won't think to let you know beforehand.
They also won't think anything of taking a second job and really half-assing both.
And God help you if you don't ask for exactly what you need. They aren't going to ask "are you sure you want this because it looks like a lot of work vs I could do it this other way for a quarter of the hours". You need Americans for that...
In my experience, the really good Indian programmers are all here in the US. Your observation that you have to ask for EXACTLY what you want matches what I've seen. I've seen near zero motivation to make sure code makes sense in the program ecosystem or that it's the best solution possible. You asked for X, I jammed ~X in there sideways and it doesn't compile but here you go.
Also, every team in India I've ever worked with WILL blow you off and disappear when they feel like it without notice. You'll find out three days later there was a wedding or a local festival or something, but they won't think to let you know beforehand.
They also won't think anything of taking a second job and really half-assing both.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2024 01:10 PM (Odg76)
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I've been doing some sort of tech support since the DOS days. I'm tired of it. I hate all the new crappy software I have to use, that has less functionality than the homegrown stuff. I do not want to work with third world customer service reps that don't understand they are supposed to troubleshoot these calls. I'm tired of sitting in a chair and staring at a screen all day. I have better things to do with my time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 07, 2024 01:10 PM (xjTDL)
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303 Big difference between Boomers who were "of age" in the '60s and those of us who were little kids.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (wzAuc)
^^^^^^^^^^^
This.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (MkuC5)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This :-)
The circumstances of my birth had nothing to do with the end of WWII (my parents were themselves kids during the war) so why am I a boomer? I have more in common with Gen-X. But we weren't born in batches so generational labels are meaningless.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:01 PM (wzAuc)
^^^^^^^^^^^
This.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at June 07, 2024 01:03 PM (MkuC5)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This :-)
The circumstances of my birth had nothing to do with the end of WWII (my parents were themselves kids during the war) so why am I a boomer? I have more in common with Gen-X. But we weren't born in batches so generational labels are meaningless.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2024 01:11 PM (VGRuw)
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319 whig,
Spot on.
I had a prof from Beruit who would talk up the ability of the groups there to get along. But if you got a couple of beers into him, he'd admit there was trouble brewing and had been for a long time.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The Ottoman Empire used divide and conquer tactics for internally suppressing rebellions. In every country that the Ottomans ruled in the past, you see a similar pattern of internal demographics hating and despising the other groups and seeking an external 'parent' to come in on their side to win.
Essentially in 1970, that was the PLO upsetting the apple cart, in 1958, it was the U.S. Marines. And so on.
Spot on.
I had a prof from Beruit who would talk up the ability of the groups there to get along. But if you got a couple of beers into him, he'd admit there was trouble brewing and had been for a long time.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The Ottoman Empire used divide and conquer tactics for internally suppressing rebellions. In every country that the Ottomans ruled in the past, you see a similar pattern of internal demographics hating and despising the other groups and seeking an external 'parent' to come in on their side to win.
Essentially in 1970, that was the PLO upsetting the apple cart, in 1958, it was the U.S. Marines. And so on.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 01:11 PM (WwRol)
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It's possible some of those parents showing up at interviews were simply providing a ride. A lot of younger people don't drive, which is also a big problem.
Posted by: Crotalus Atrox at June 07, 2024 01:11 PM (25QY+)
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I remember an ad for some bank that was sucking up to the Boomers, saying "We're the generation of love and Woodstock," words to that effect, and then, "We put men on the moon..."
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...the f**k you did.
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...the f**k you did.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 07, 2024 01:11 PM (wzAuc)
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Puking on the way into work out of fear of what the day would bring? That was me. OSHA and the IRS were just two of my combatants. There were a lot more. In the mail every day, the state vs DBZ.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
The job I was in longer than any other (even longer than I was in the Navy) made me miserable. Sometimes almost unbearably so.
There's a big difference between not finding your work particularly fulfillling and being tortured by it.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
The job I was in longer than any other (even longer than I was in the Navy) made me miserable. Sometimes almost unbearably so.
There's a big difference between not finding your work particularly fulfillling and being tortured by it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 01:11 PM (v6JzV)
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Yet the accepted age range goes 10 years younger than this. Someone who turned 20 in 2000 ain't in the same generation as someone who turned 10. The 20 year old grew up in a different world than the 10 year old.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
I'd suggest it's even more narrow than this.
I was born in 1980, my sister in 1985. We may as well have grown up on different planets. Her entire age group is full of people who have spent the entirety of their lives expecting things to appear for them.
It's bonkers.
On the '20% have had a parent come to a job interview,' I concur. In my past life, I was hiring federal agents and associated administrative staff. On three separate occasions, an applicant brought a parent.
In a different case, an employee reached the time in grade to make GS-13 and asked for consideration. I responded with a list of duties I'd like to see her start picking up and courses I'd like her to attend and told her we'd revisit the issue in 8 months.
Her dad called me the next day and wanted to fight about it. She never did get that -13.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
I'd suggest it's even more narrow than this.
I was born in 1980, my sister in 1985. We may as well have grown up on different planets. Her entire age group is full of people who have spent the entirety of their lives expecting things to appear for them.
It's bonkers.
On the '20% have had a parent come to a job interview,' I concur. In my past life, I was hiring federal agents and associated administrative staff. On three separate occasions, an applicant brought a parent.
In a different case, an employee reached the time in grade to make GS-13 and asked for consideration. I responded with a list of duties I'd like to see her start picking up and courses I'd like her to attend and told her we'd revisit the issue in 8 months.
Her dad called me the next day and wanted to fight about it. She never did get that -13.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 07, 2024 01:11 PM (/nCD+)
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They go to their "corporate media" canard like a dog to its own vomit.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
Proverbs 26:11: As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Help! I'm being ChristFascisted!!! Separation of Church and State!!!! Freedom of Religion includes freedom FROM religion!!!!
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
Proverbs 26:11: As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Help! I'm being ChristFascisted!!! Separation of Church and State!!!! Freedom of Religion includes freedom FROM religion!!!!
Posted by: Totally Rational, normal Leftist at June 07, 2024 01:12 PM (JCZqz)
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OT but I think Horizon American Saga will be good and that Cannes criticized it because it shows American Exceptionalism through violence and good vs evil. Just a guess. Hope I'm right and it's not another Dances with Wolves.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:12 PM (SHMXB)
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There's a fairly interesting documentary on GG called "Murder Junkies." Directed by Todd Philips. Yes, that Todd Philips. GG was seriously mentally ill.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 01:08 PM (iFTx/)
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Ask me why that doesn't surprise me.
Oh, and I asked my punk friend "So, how was GG Allin?"
And he beamed back to me: "I kicked the Living, Breathing Emblem of Punk Rock in the stomach".
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 01:08 PM (iFTx/)
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Ask me why that doesn't surprise me.
Oh, and I asked my punk friend "So, how was GG Allin?"
And he beamed back to me: "I kicked the Living, Breathing Emblem of Punk Rock in the stomach".
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:12 PM (krQz2)
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341 OT but I think Horizon American Saga will be good and that Cannes criticized it because it shows American Exceptionalism through violence and good vs evil. Just a guess. Hope I'm right and it's not another Dances with Wolves.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:12 PM (SHMXB)
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From what I've read, it's the first episode of a mini-series...and Dances with Wolves levels of dull.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:12 PM (SHMXB)
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From what I've read, it's the first episode of a mini-series...and Dances with Wolves levels of dull.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, when most of your daily "interactions" with people don't involve eye contact, it's not too surprising.
Posted by: pookysgirl
Excellent point. Not having a cell phone it still amazes me when I see the humped over shoulders and not the faces of the people that stare at a screen constantly. You're right, it's not the least bit surprising most people don't make eye contact especially with a stranger in an interview.
Hell, even the older crowd at the local bar only look up to hold their glass up for a refill.
Posted by: pookysgirl
Excellent point. Not having a cell phone it still amazes me when I see the humped over shoulders and not the faces of the people that stare at a screen constantly. You're right, it's not the least bit surprising most people don't make eye contact especially with a stranger in an interview.
Hell, even the older crowd at the local bar only look up to hold their glass up for a refill.
Posted by: old chick at June 07, 2024 01:14 PM (F3Dlr)
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337 I remember an ad for some bank that was sucking up to the Boomers, saying "We're the generation of love and Woodstock," words to that effect, and then, "We put men on the moon..."
...
...the f**k you did.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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Advertising and marketing in general provide full employment for functional ignoramuses because it takes one to know one.
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...the f**k you did.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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Advertising and marketing in general provide full employment for functional ignoramuses because it takes one to know one.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 01:15 PM (WwRol)
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And the younger generations have been lazy for a while. A friend of mine owns a lawfirm and complains that he, the owner, has to work through the weekend because his young attorney employees will routinely blow off writing motions due on Monday morning because they decided to go on a road trip or just want to "set parameters for my work-life balance."
So does he not fire them because this is the best he can hire?
My daughter's firm is very highly rated and hires from the best schools. Until a few years ago, they had no procedure for firing people, because it wasn't needed. Now, they're developing one.
So does he not fire them because this is the best he can hire?
My daughter's firm is very highly rated and hires from the best schools. Until a few years ago, they had no procedure for firing people, because it wasn't needed. Now, they're developing one.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:15 PM (xCA6C)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
If true that will suck.
If true that will suck.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (SHMXB)
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I do not at all understand people that get "fulfillment" at work.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
Same for scientists. You don't go into it for the money.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
Same for scientists. You don't go into it for the money.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)
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Being born after the apex of the Boomer generation is markedly different for those born on the front side of the wave. This probably describes your mother's POV.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (pZ64F)
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There are a few good ones, mainly in operations. We exist. amongst the DEI spewers. I like to to think I was one and maintain the respect in the labor relations community I do because I was honest and knew my job. J is the head HR honcho for his company and he has very little tolerance or patience for those who don’t do HR as intended. He shut down quotas very quickly, he has very high expectations of the HR team under him.
I did tell him to stop calling people 4 levels underneath him and asking questions. That is unnecessarily scary. He loves it when I coach him from downstairs after I quit my job to be the exercise guru to the stars. ☺️
Posted by: Piper at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (pZEOD)
The rot started when personnel departments became "Human Resources" departments.
I did tell him to stop calling people 4 levels underneath him and asking questions. That is unnecessarily scary. He loves it when I coach him from downstairs after I quit my job to be the exercise guru to the stars. ☺️
Posted by: Piper at June 07, 2024 12:26 PM (pZEOD)
The rot started when personnel departments became "Human Resources" departments.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2024 01:17 PM (BfydD)
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I'm tired of sitting in a chair and staring at a screen all day. I have better things to do with my time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 07, 2024 01:10 PM (xjTDL)
Wasn't working for me either so I quit. Yesterday.
Now to tell the wife and go do some of those interview things I won't bring my mom too.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 07, 2024 01:10 PM (xjTDL)
Wasn't working for me either so I quit. Yesterday.
Now to tell the wife and go do some of those interview things I won't bring my mom too.
Posted by: Reforger at June 07, 2024 01:17 PM (xcIvR)
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In a different case, an employee reached the time in grade to make GS-13 and asked for consideration. I responded with a list of duties I'd like to see her start picking up and courses I'd like her to attend and told her we'd revisit the issue in 8 months.
Her dad called me the next day and wanted to fight about it. She never did get that -13.
That is some next level helicoptering.
Her dad called me the next day and wanted to fight about it. She never did get that -13.
That is some next level helicoptering.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:17 PM (xCA6C)
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347 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
If true that will suck.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (SHMXB)
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It's also tracking for about a $10 million opening.
So, good or bad, Costner's not getting any more funding for any more entries in the series, and he's probably not going to sink any more of his own money into it. Parts 1 and 2 will be it, not his prospective 3 and 4 (which he's apparently already shot tiny bits of before his money ran out).
If true that will suck.
Posted by: polynikes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (SHMXB)
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It's also tracking for about a $10 million opening.
So, good or bad, Costner's not getting any more funding for any more entries in the series, and he's probably not going to sink any more of his own money into it. Parts 1 and 2 will be it, not his prospective 3 and 4 (which he's apparently already shot tiny bits of before his money ran out).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)
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Clearly the conspiracy theory of replacement is total sham you rubes.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 07, 2024 01:19 PM (17s+e)
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Just waiting for all of the painted parts to dry and then final assembly will begin and the RestoModded Wheelbarrow will be complete.
Only a two day project and it will be ready for the weekend.
Only a two day project and it will be ready for the weekend.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 01:19 PM (XV/Pl)
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I do not at all understand people that get "fulfillment" at work.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
Same for scientists. You don't go into it for the money.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)
____________
[Laughs hysterically]
-- Anthony Fauci
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
Same for scientists. You don't go into it for the money.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)
____________
[Laughs hysterically]
-- Anthony Fauci
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 01:19 PM (iFTx/)
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That is some next level helicoptering.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:17 PM (xCA6C)
It was absolutely insane to me. To bring in my other point, my sister thought her dad went 'a little too far,' but generally agreed with him trying to look out for his kid. Who was nearly 30.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:17 PM (xCA6C)
It was absolutely insane to me. To bring in my other point, my sister thought her dad went 'a little too far,' but generally agreed with him trying to look out for his kid. Who was nearly 30.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 07, 2024 01:19 PM (/nCD+)
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Same for scientists. You don't go into it for the money.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)
____________
[Laughs hysterically]
-- Anthony Fauci
Fair.
Same for scientists. You don't go into it for the money.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)
____________
[Laughs hysterically]
-- Anthony Fauci
Fair.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 01:20 PM (xCA6C)
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What is some slang which some millennials might use that a person the age of their parents wouldn't understand? I am going to add this to my "worst interview ever" skit.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 01:20 PM (XkYcA)
Posted by: Stateless at June 07, 2024 01:21 PM (jvJvP)
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I do not at all understand people that get "fulfillment" at work.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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I dunno. I get a certain amount of satisfaction from helping the faculty and students. They appreciate our services and tell us so quite often.
And yeah, there's also satisfaction from seeing a project through from start to completion, and for solving challenging problems.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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I dunno. I get a certain amount of satisfaction from helping the faculty and students. They appreciate our services and tell us so quite often.
And yeah, there's also satisfaction from seeing a project through from start to completion, and for solving challenging problems.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 01:21 PM (7fElN)
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Her dad called me the next day and wanted to fight about it. She never did get that -13.
I...don't understand. That's how I got all my best paying jobs!
I...don't understand. That's how I got all my best paying jobs!
Posted by: Hunter Biden at June 07, 2024 01:21 PM (JCZqz)
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One of the classic Soviet jokes was "they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work". Or you could quote the Pistols. "When there's no future, how can there be sin?". Blow up tradition and you don't get traditional results.
Posted by: Azjaeger at June 07, 2024 01:23 PM (dkm23)
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For engineer-types, the challenges that come with successfully identifying & solving problems -- and creating material systems from ideas -- can be a real rush that demands a lot of drive and focus.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 01:04 PM (NGa9E)
As an engineer, I can confirm. I definitely don't hate my job; most days I actually enjoy it. Still, I don't live to work, and though I could probably continue working for another decade, I will be retiring soon.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 01:04 PM (NGa9E)
As an engineer, I can confirm. I definitely don't hate my job; most days I actually enjoy it. Still, I don't live to work, and though I could probably continue working for another decade, I will be retiring soon.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 07, 2024 01:23 PM (VGRuw)
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As "Formerly known as Skeptic" pointed out, those stats only say that some percentage of employers have had at least one applicant do such-and-such. Not that the percentage applies to all applicants.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 07, 2024 01:23 PM (XMwZJ)
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Far more serious and personal fare -
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (tmgMU)
Sorry to hear that, Anna.
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2024 12:36 PM (tmgMU)
Sorry to hear that, Anna.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2024 01:23 PM (BfydD)
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No, he's 19.
Posted by: Stateless
The Giant supermarkets here in NoVa won't even let underage checkout people check out your beer or wine. They have to call over an of-age employee to work some jiggery-pokery on the register so that they can do it.
Posted by: Stateless
The Giant supermarkets here in NoVa won't even let underage checkout people check out your beer or wine. They have to call over an of-age employee to work some jiggery-pokery on the register so that they can do it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 01:24 PM (v6JzV)
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Nood.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 07, 2024 01:26 PM (T+Iwg)
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Hell, even the older crowd at the local bar only look up to hold their glass up for a refill.
Posted by: old chick at June 07, 2024 01:14 PM (F3Dlr)
The rougher bars have an unspoken rule, and that is you look at your drink or the TV.
Eye contact with strangers is an invitation to fight
Posted by: old chick at June 07, 2024 01:14 PM (F3Dlr)
The rougher bars have an unspoken rule, and that is you look at your drink or the TV.
Eye contact with strangers is an invitation to fight
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 07, 2024 01:26 PM (FCbAQ)
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I do not at all understand people that get "fulfillment" at work.
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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I do get some fulfillment at work. But that's because I'm in a job that pays me for my brain.
However, there are frustrations that dampen that level of fulfillment and that is bullshit rules.
I still try to maintain rules and jump through hoops because of who my Lord is. However, it still dampens the purity of that feeling of fulfillment.
However, I understand that my employer did not give me this job and the customers do not give me this business for my own fulfillment. So I balance my frustration with realization.
But overall, an increment in delivering quality to my customer does yield a fulfillment. Whereas the primal joy is writing some "really neat, and sometimes tricky, code".
I do a job, I get paid. So I can afford to do the things I want.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)
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I do get some fulfillment at work. But that's because I'm in a job that pays me for my brain.
However, there are frustrations that dampen that level of fulfillment and that is bullshit rules.
I still try to maintain rules and jump through hoops because of who my Lord is. However, it still dampens the purity of that feeling of fulfillment.
However, I understand that my employer did not give me this job and the customers do not give me this business for my own fulfillment. So I balance my frustration with realization.
But overall, an increment in delivering quality to my customer does yield a fulfillment. Whereas the primal joy is writing some "really neat, and sometimes tricky, code".
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 01:26 PM (krQz2)
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366 Far more serious and personal fare -
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Prayers for you, your family, and your father.
They are moving my father into hospice care.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Prayers for you, your family, and your father.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 01:26 PM (WwRol)
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my boys have zero social media presence. do you think that is hurting them with hiring?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (s3qiR)
Wouldn't think so. Not everyone puts their best efforts into an job application, so that in and of itself is a tell, but I also learned that people tend not to put other things in an application. I did not want bring toxicity into my work, and that is most often revealed in social media posts.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 07, 2024 12:38 PM (s3qiR)
Wouldn't think so. Not everyone puts their best efforts into an job application, so that in and of itself is a tell, but I also learned that people tend not to put other things in an application. I did not want bring toxicity into my work, and that is most often revealed in social media posts.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 07, 2024 01:27 PM (MZ+PY)
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so who knows plumbing?
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (/7KEl)
Wassup? You counting ballots in Atlanta?
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 12:40 PM (/7KEl)
Wassup? You counting ballots in Atlanta?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2024 01:27 PM (BfydD)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2024 01:28 PM (mH6SG)
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College teaches kids how to protest and march. That's about it. And apparently their parents put up with it.
I think we need King Randall, who teaches young black boys how to shake hands and generally behave, to start giving classes at Harvard.
I think we need King Randall, who teaches young black boys how to shake hands and generally behave, to start giving classes at Harvard.
Posted by: PJ at June 07, 2024 01:36 PM (G1dq6)
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Easy fix; Tap into the power of key labor unions (auto, aerospace, transport, trades) and put the globalist corporatists and management in the cross hairs but that makes our base of jingo neocons and/or 'MURICA!!!! brainwashed flag wavers butt hurt.
Posted by: Iggy at June 07, 2024 01:59 PM (90A/O)
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Poorly prepared for interviews? Understandable since it's a skill few schools address.
I did practice interviews with my kids for both jobs and programs in their schools that required them. Trying to understand the perspective needs of the company/interviewer, common questions, how to dress, how to talk, how to STFU and listen. How to deal with surprise questions, etc. Understanding time is valuable, get to the point and not ramble on etc.
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