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The Hollywood Reporter Wonders If This Time, Hollywood Really Is In Trouble

You can't survive long on costly failure after costly failure.

The Summer Box Office Crisis: Is the Sky Really Falling This Time?

With fewer big movies out as a result of the strikes, theatrical revenue is plummeting every week as fans grow accustomed to staying at-home.

ComicsGate had a good point about the word fans: Don't call them "fans."

Call them what they are: Customers, or potential customers.

"Fans" suggests that people love you so much they will show up for whatever crap you churn out. t "Customers" suggests you have to woo them and provide them with good value for money.

Hollywood would do well to correct its mindset. No one needs what they're selling. It's not fuel or food. It's a diversion.

They need to stop thinking they're stars and "creators" and start thinking that they work in a customer-service industry.

...


Toward the end of the SAG-AFTRA talks, studio chiefs were accused of being disingenuous when saying their 2024 release calendars were in danger every day the four-month strike dragged. Now the impact of those warnings is coming into view.

Dee you bitch.

Without the usual parade of tentpoles, including a Marvel superhero pic to kick things off over the first weekend of May, the early summer box office is in tatters after a tough winter and spring. Domestic box office revenue year-to-date is $2.68 billion, down a whopping 24 percent over the same corridor last year and 42 percent behind 2019, the last normal year before the COVID-19 crisis, according to Comscore. In fact, every week has been down this year from 2023; the smallest gap was 11 percent, when Dune: Part Two and Godzilla v. Kong: The New Empire opened.


The deficit has reignited the sky-is-falling debate over the future of theatrical, and whether it can survive the post-pandemic world and the rise of streaming. Box office observers agree that the ecosystem is incredibly fragile but hang on to the hope that moviegoing will pick up in the coming weeks when all-audience tentpoles Inside Out 2, Despicable Me 4 and Deadpool & Wolverine come out, followed by Beetlejuice Beetlejuice in early September. But there won't be a steady volume of product until 2025. Nor does it help that many movies are opening behind expectations (all eyes will be on Bad Boys: Ride or Die this weekend to see if it can clear $48 million to $50 million in its launch). "We are concerned," says one studio insider. "You'd be a fool to not be thinking about that. People are not in the moviegoing habit and are firmly ensconced in appointment viewing, which is a huge problem. But there hasn't been a real igniter."

Movies like The Fall Guy or Memorial Day's Furiosa were never intended to be all-audience summer tentpoles that could generate huge grosses, but people expected them to be merely because of when they were dated. The Apes franchise, which saw Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes released in May, has never risen to the full-blown tentpole level since it is sci-fi and targeted at older and younger males.

Oh, so you do understand that some genres naturally appeal more to males.

Weird how Hollywood keeps remaking male-appealing genres for the sake of appeasing women.


Except for one installment, all the films have grossed less than $500 million globally....

[W]ith every movie that disappoints and underperforms, whether Furiosa or The Fall Guy, studio insiders are growing more and more alarmed. "It's mind-numbing that Furiosa hasn't grossed $50 million domestically," says another studio exec. "My worry is that studios will put on the brakes and make fewer movies, which will further contribute to the problem."

The May 31 to June 2 weekend is a terrifying snapshot of what can happen when there isn't a series of tentpoles waiting to unfurl during the summer.

Well, there used to be a few franchises that men would turn out to see, but you decided to remake them all into Girlboss Princess movies.

Dee you bitch, I am not going bankrupt because of your lack of grace.

..

To date, Apes is the only summer film to have cracked $100 million domestically even if it, along with IF, are considered moderate successes in their own right (IF has grossed $80.2 million domestically). At the same time last year, The Little Mermaid had grossed $206 million and Guardians $328 million.

"When The Little Mermaid opened to $118 million, people called that soft," reminds one studio source. "Can you imagine?"

Is this something?

Another Alien movie. Yayyy.

It looks good. Most Alien movies look good. (Alien 3 came out during that really bad phase of CGI when everyone was determined to use it but most of it looked awful.

So it looks good. So did Prometheus. (Shots fired.)

I don't know how many times people will pay to see the same basic story.


M. Night Shayamalan produced another weird horror movie with a complicated premise:

Here's another Shayamalan movie with an overly-complicated premise: A guy takes his daughter to a pop concert but learns the whole concert is a trap for wanted criminals. And the "hero" is some kind of super serial killer the cops are trying to catch.

And I guess we're supposed to root for him...? Why would we root for a serial killer who chops people up?

Or is he chopping people up?

Is that he's a vampire hunter and society is controlled by vampires and the cops are just the vampires' self-defense forces?

Something like that? Did I guess the Big Twist?

The fact that the pop star is called "The Raven Queen" suggests some kind of gothic supernatural element.

I don't know. I feel the same way about Shayamalan's overly-complex, hard-to-explain premises the way Elaine feels about Puddy's attempt to make up his own "move."

Dee you bitch, you're barely even trying anymore.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:23 PM




Comments

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1 Yes.

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at June 07, 2024 04:24 PM (ytSiK)

2 Dee you bitch.

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She's such a bird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

3 So it looks good. So did Prometheus. (Shots fired.)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

4 Is this something?

Another Alien movie. Yayyy.

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I get distinct The Force Awakens vibes:

This is safe Alien territory. Please like us again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

5 As movie-threads go, I finished "The Loved Ones". There was a girlboss lead!
About time the Dahmer genre had one of those. (With a touch of The Road.)
Anyway, um... I probably erred in watching that as late at night on a weekday as I did.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 07, 2024 04:25 PM (gKWVE)

6 Watching the RLM people and their dumbass commenters try to figure out "what happened" to Hollywood was amazing.

Lots of theories. None of them right.

Posted by: ... at June 07, 2024 04:26 PM (+yplR)

7

Hey let’s have a Mad Max movie with no Mad Max. Replace him with a skinny chick that doesn’t say a word the entire movie.

Imagine the cash haul if they had Mel run his Interceptor one last time.

Idiots. Fucking pedo idiots.

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at June 07, 2024 04:27 PM (/PNdu)

8 Not to worry, biden will shower them with federal grant $$$$$ to make up for their losses when he wins again in November.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2024 04:28 PM (QNSds)

9 They need to stop thinking they're stars and "creators" and start thinking that they work in a customer-service industry.

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Ugh...the star system.

The star system was created by Irving Thalberg when he took over MGM in the mid-20s. It was an explicit way to try and ape the assembly line.

The star was designed as a marketing tool to help tell people what kind of movie they're getting into. Greta Garbo meant one thing. John Barrymore meant something similar. Errol Flynn meant something else entirely. The Marx Brothers were something else.

It was about typecasting.

I think the only "star" today who understands that at all is Tom Cruise. All of the others think that they're actors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

10 My aunt loves movies and went to the movies at least once a week for decades. She's not able now, but I don't think that if she could go she would. She says movies are mostly crap.

Posted by: huerfano at June 07, 2024 04:28 PM (VGOMa)

11 @4

>>This is safe Alien territory. Please like us again.

Actually, the director is a horror director and is going to take Alien back to it's horror roots and make it less actiony.

I'm not a big fan of horror, but Alien is easily one of the greatest horror films and if this can even be a pale imitation, it might make some money as horror films seem to be very popular.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 04:28 PM (XV/Pl)

12 ace: the Game Stop situation has been really weird today. Might be Quick Hit worthy.

Roaring Kitty gave a strange Livestream and the stock PLUNGED.

Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (Hucnr)

13 Customers, huh?

Posted by: Mickey Spillane at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (wVbP8)

14 11
Actually, the director is a horror director and is going to take Alien back to it's horror roots and make it less actiony.

I'm not a big fan of horror, but Alien is easily one of the greatest horror films and if this can even be a pale imitation, it might make some money as horror films seem to be very popular.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 04:28 PM (XV/Pl)

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I mean...I'd call your description, "safe Alien territory". It's what you loved before...again. Nothing new. Nothing challenging.

Also, I don't really like Fede Alvarez.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

15 They're no Prometheii, that's for sure.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (uPqZl)

16 Is the Sky Really Falling This Time?
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Try putting out movies with story.

Try that.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (krQz2)

17 Last movie I went to was Top Gun Maverick.
No plans to return

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (W/lyH)

18 17 Last movie I went to was Top Gun Maverick.
No plans to return
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 04:29 PM (W/lyH)

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I'm seeing Furiosa on Sunday!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

19 I don't know how many times people will pay to see the same basic story.
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Aliens never disappoint.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (RIvkX)

20 Watched Get Shorty for the first time in years last night. It was pretty fun.

Posted by: Xander Crews at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (rEmVK)

21 M. Night Shayamalan produced another weird horror movie with a complicated premise:

Written and directed by his daughter. Yay, nepotism!

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (DRSnL)

22 Actually, the director is a horror director and is going to take Alien back to it's horror roots and make it less actiony.

I'm not a big fan of horror, but Alien is easily one of the greatest horror films and if this can even be a pale imitation, it might make some money as horror films seem to be very popular.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 04:28 PM (XV/Pl)
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I prefer Aliens. Which was a bit more of an actioner. (With Walter Hill as tactical consultant!)

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM (krQz2)

23 >>>She's such a bird.

Lately I've been thinking *fish.*

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

24 “Black Stump Bordeaux” is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good “Sydney Syrup” can rank with any of the world’s best sugary wines.

“Chateau Bleu”, too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.

“Old Smokey, 1968” has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian wino society thouroughly recommends a 1970 “Coq du Rod Laver”, which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: 8 bottles of this, and you’re really finished – at the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.

Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is “Perth Pink”. This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is BEWARE!. This is not a wine for drinking – this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.

Another good fighting wine is “Melbourne Old-and-Yellow”, which is particularly heavy, and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.

Quite the reverse is true of “Chateau Chunder”, which is an Appelachian controle, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation – a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.

Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM (RHGPo)

25 With 4K TV, sound bars, and streaming that gives me decades of old content that I know I like, in my living room ?

It better be something special to get me out. DUNE got me out ... but the 2nd ensured I won't be out for the 3rd. Only time I bothered with movies in the last few years.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM (U6Sn/)

26 19 I don't know how many times people will pay to see the same basic story.
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Aliens never disappoint.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (RIvkX)

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The first four Alien movies are effectively the same story repeated.

A group of working-class everymen get into a spacey environment and have to fight off an xenomorph. Also, there's Ripley.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

27 Saw Skyfall. Liked it.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:32 PM (krQz2)

28 Written and directed by his daughter. Yay, nepotism!

Sometimes it works.

Posted by: the Coppolae at June 07, 2024 04:32 PM (gKWVE)

29 Don't call them "fans."

And don't call yourselves "creators". You're accountants, marketers, and sales people.

Posted by: t-bird at June 07, 2024 04:32 PM (GCKiK)

30 28 Written and directed by his daughter. Yay, nepotism!

Sometimes it works.
Posted by: the Coppolae at June 07, 2024 04:32 PM (gKWVE)

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"I have no relation to these people."
-Nicholas Cage

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

31 I saw Alien with my dad at some duplex on the East side and we were the only ones not smoking weed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2024 04:32 PM (RIvkX)

32 "I have no relation to these people."
-Nicholas Cage


Word.

Posted by: Joe Hill at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (gKWVE)

33 @22

>>I prefer Aliens. Which was a bit more of an actioner. (With Walter Hill as tactical consultant!)

They're both masterpieces and essential films one's horror, one's and action adventure.

Basically, there are only two Alien films.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (XV/Pl)

34 A group of working-class everymen get into a spacey environment and have to fight off an xenomorph. Also, there's Ripley.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
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But Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn were only in one movie.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (krQz2)

35 The Summer Box Office Crisis: Is the Sky Really Falling This Time?

Anecdotal data point:

All 5 Alamo Drafthouses in the DFW area are closing. For those not in the know, this chain began in Austin in the 1990s; it's a theater where you can order food and drinks, and pretty well regarded in Texas.

Posted by: This Seems Ominous at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (+RNLW)

36 34 But Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn were only in one movie.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (krQz2)

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False!

Biehn's picture was in 3.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

37 I thought Fall Guy was really good, basically what a fun big screen experience is supposed to be.

Garfield was also a pleasant surprise in that the theme revolves around the importance of fathers, which is not something you'd expect from hollywood.

Posted by: the dandy at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (ImXfC)

38 Domestic box office revenue year-to-date is $2.68 billion, down a whopping 24 percent over the same corridor last year

Presumably not inflation-adjusted, either. Ouchie. Couldn't have happened to a nicer cult.

Posted by: mikeski at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (DgGvY)

39 Word.
Posted by: Joe Hill at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (gKWVE)

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With that face you're not fooling anybody.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (DRSnL)

40 Did anyone else watch Dinner in America based on the Red Letter Media recommendation. It's very much not for everyone, but I thought it was great. I also went in knowing it was going to be bizarre and profane.

Posted by: Xander Crews at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (rEmVK)

41 @26

>>A group of working-class everymen get into a spacey environment and have to fight off an xenomorph. Also, there's Ripley.

You've just described every Western ever made.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (XV/Pl)

42 2 Dee you bitch.

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She's such a bird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

You know, TJM, lately I've been thinking fish. Because her eyes are so far apart...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (KbCG3)

43 >>But Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn were only in one movie.

Yeah, they showed pictures of Biehn and Newt and said "Oh they died offscreen. Very sad."

Dee you bitch.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

44 Basically, there are only two Alien films.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (XV/Pl)
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I have no problem with that. Even though the third was made by David Fincher, who I would actually put in front of Cameron for long-term quality.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (krQz2)

45 Hahaha, last movie I saw in a theater was ' The Sound of Music "

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (v/nZx)

46 The local theaterplex here in Galveston, undertook to expand their building by a measure of about 50%, maybe more.

I hadn't though there's be that much demand for extra screens. And, I was right.

They added a Bowling Alley to the complex.

Because Bowling is more exciting and entertaining than today's movies.

I'm not much of a bowler, but I might go give it a look. What, do you think that the odds are though, that they've found a way to make Bowling look fake, gay and lame?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (e6UQI)

47 I see ace is embracing his inner Dennis Reynolds....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (7fElN)

48 When it comes to Highlander films, there can be only one.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (uPqZl)

49 >>> I thought Fall Guy was really good, basically what a fun big screen experience is supposed to be.

i'm waiting for the price to drop on PPV. Maybe next week?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

50 I saw Aliens by myself in a packed theater in downtown Newark. One of the best movie experiences I've ever had. Let's say the audience was "high involvement."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (RIvkX)

51 37 I thought Fall Guy was really good, basically what a fun big screen experience is supposed to be.

Garfield was also a pleasant surprise in that the theme revolves around the importance of fathers, which is not something you'd expect from hollywood.
Posted by: the dandy at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (ImXfC)

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Fall Guy's biggest problem is probably that it was simply too expensive.

It was most likely never going to be a half-billion dollar monster, and the idea that Ryan Gosling is some huge box office draw is laughable.

At best, it could have been another John Wick sleeper, but John Wick was damn near indy levels of funding compared to Fall Guy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

52 Sure, movies aren't doing so hot right now, but the word on the street is that The Acolyte is excellent.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (guGkK)

53 Cliff Booth for president. Attitude and fewer dead bodies.

Posted by: 80's music fan at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (as3uC)

54 >>>47 I see ace is embracing his inner Dennis Reynolds....

more mac.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

55 But Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn were only in one movie.

Yeah, they showed pictures of Biehn and Newt and said "Oh they died offscreen. Very sad."

Dee you bitch.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (KRtlO)
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I'll respond in Parks and Rec: Thanks, Jerry!

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (krQz2)

56 Simone remarked that the cast of the new Alien movie looks like college interns. No adults and every fucking diversity check box on screen. Bet you the main character is a girl. Sure, so we're the first three films, but come on!

Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (Hucnr)

57 31 I saw Alien with my dad at some duplex on the East side and we were the only ones not smoking weed.

Well yeah. Everyone knows you need to watch that on acid.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (gKWVE)

58 The first two "Alien" films were brilliant concepts; a horror movie set in space, then a war movie set in space. The following ones were dumb plots with dumb characters. The Xenomorphs are arguably the most terrifying movie monsters ever, and could still be compelling entertainment if handled right.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (tRd71)

59 Until they get out of the mindset of "well, it was successful before, so let's do it again" (sequels, pre-quels, reboots, regurgitating old TV shows, regurgitating older movies that aren't even collecting dust yet), they've lost a significant number of customers. Add to that the constant and insistent agenda messaging of untalented "creators" and you have a recipe for mediocrity.

Bring back the creative, entertaining, new ideas that stand out on their merits.

Posted by: Orson at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (dIske)

60 I'm not much of a bowler, but I might go give it a look. What, do you think that the odds are though, that they've found a way to make Bowling look fake, gay and lame?


PRO TIP: Topless bowling for women will never lose its appeal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (guGkK)

61 43 >>But Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn were only in one movie.

Yeah, they showed pictures of Biehn and Newt and said "Oh they died offscreen. Very sad."

Dee you bitch.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

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Do you know about the tortured route Alien3 took to production?

Farking Vincent Ward was going to direct from his script where the ship crashed on a wooden planet populated by monks at one point. He went on to make What Dreams May Come...eventually. That dude was going to make an Alien movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

62 At the end of the first Terminator movie, the last credit says "I'll be back."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (uPqZl)

63 "Dee?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (d9fT1)

64 They could stop making the hyper expensive movies and make a lot of quality smaller movies instead.

Posted by: Allen at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (lFLgt)

65 60 I'm not much of a bowler, but I might go give it a look. What, do you think that the odds are though, that they've found a way to make Bowling look fake, gay and lame?


PRO TIP: Topless bowling for women will never lose its appeal.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (guGkK)

I see you've never been to a bowling alley.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (KbCG3)

66 >> i'm waiting for the price to drop on PPV. Maybe next week?


I saw it at a matinee which is cheaper than the PPV rental I think.

Posted by: the dandy at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (ImXfC)

67 I believe it was The Replacements who said,

Movies are for retards like me and Maybeline.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (6d8kz)

68 Here's another Shayamalan movie with an overly-complicated premise: A guy takes his daughter to a pop concert but learns the whole concert is a trap for wanted criminals. And the "hero" is some kind of super serial killer the cops are trying to catch.

Huh, I watched the trailer and it looks kinda good. I like Josh Hartnett.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (DRSnL)

69 64 They could stop making the hyper expensive movies and make a lot of quality smaller movies instead.
Posted by: Allen at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (lFLgt)

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Blumhouse makes shit.

But they're able to keep making shit because they make cheap shit.

A24 is similar, except they have a better batting average and are artsy fartsy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

70 Saw the recent Planet of the Apes movie.

Still haven't decided what I think about it.

I think it falls into the area of "good", but I just wonder if maybe in my mind, I've given up on movies.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (krQz2)

71 "Movies like The Fall Guy or Memorial Day's Furiosa were never intended to be all-audience summer tentpoles that could generate huge grosses, but people expected them to be merely because of when they were dated."

...and yet they need to gross $500M or more to break even so by definition they have to be a tentpole! These idiots couldn't make a Godzilla Minus 1 if their lives depended on it, which of of course they do.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (zdYK9)

72 The Summer Box Office Crisis: Is the Sky Really Falling This Time?

With fewer big movies out as a result of the strikes, theatrical revenue is plummeting every week as fans grow accustomed to staying at-home.


One gets the sense that the concept of a baseline eludes these people.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (xCA6C)

73 Sure, movies aren't doing so hot right now, but the word on the street is that The Acolyte is excellent.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 07, 2024 04:35 PM (guGkK)
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You need to move to a different street...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (7fElN)

74 Romulus looks like it was cut and pasted from other Alien films. Entirely derivative. *yawns*

I would have been interested in Watchers. But knowing M. Night. Shalamadingdong is involved, my interest waned pretty quickly.

Posted by: I'm Gonna Miss This One at June 07, 2024 04:37 PM (+RNLW)

75 There will be a renaissance in movie going at some time. Nostalgia is a powerful emotion.


.

Posted by: filler at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (78cK7)

76 The following ones were dumb plots with dumb characters.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:36 PM (tRd71)


I sort of liked the 3rd and 4th, but that's because I like monster films and suspend critical thinking.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (d9fT1)

77 Loyal customers + fans and Pervywood said "FUCK YOU LOYAL CUSTOMERS!"

It is a bold strategy and from retail to beer to EV cars to movies and TV we have seen it fail.... but maybe this time it will work.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (17s+e)

78 >>I see ace is embracing his inner Dennis Reynolds....


It's almost Summer...so.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (6d8kz)

79 "I have no problem with that. Even though the third was made by David Fincher, who I would actually put in front of Cameron for long-term quality"

That movie was also studio fucked so bad Fincher almost quit directing.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (tRd71)

80 Maybe they should focus more on diversity.

Posted by: Jim at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (zhWvq)

81 79 "I have no problem with that. Even though the third was made by David Fincher, who I would actually put in front of Cameron for long-term quality"

That movie was also studio fucked so bad Fincher almost quit directing.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (tRd71)

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I think he still refuses to talk about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

82 Is that he's a vampire hunter and society is controlled by vampires and the cops are just the vampires' self-defense forces?

That sounds suspiciously like hate speech comrade.

Posted by: Christopher A. Wray at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (ibTVg)

83 It is a bold strategy and from retail to beer to EV cars to movies and TV we have seen it fail.... but maybe this time it will work.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (17s+e)


Dunno. It's been working for us.

Posted by: Boeing Aircraft Corp. at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (guGkK)

84 The studios have to convince me to spend the considerable incremental dollars and about an extra hour to go to the theater to see their movies, versus watching at home a few weeks later. (Not to mention dealing with the theater experience, including the behaviors of other customers while watching the movie.) That's a high bar.

Plus, I'm already highly skeptical of their products, even when touted. I had planned to see Dune 2 in a theater, but RL intervened. My wife and I watched it last weekend on Max, and we were underwhelmed. I really liked Dune, but the 2 was weak. Still looked great but otherwise, meh.

Posted by: Kreskin at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (ecbNb)

85 "They'll probably chew me out for this. I've been chewed out before."

Posted by: Aldo Raine at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (as3uC)

86 They could stop making the hyper expensive movies and make a lot of quality smaller movies instead.

Yes, but those cheaper movies don't require a trip to a theater to enjoy. About the only thing that does anymore is a big budget spectacle. Otherwise, just watch it at home.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (xCA6C)

87 What, do you think that the odds are though, that they've found a way to make Bowling look fake, gay and lame?
Posted by: Jim


No idea what you're on about.

Posted by: Cosmic Bowling at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (DgGvY)

88 Aliens 1 was a great horror movie

Aliens 2 was a great action movie.

And every one since then has sucked.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (ibTVg)

89 Maybe they should focus more on diversity.
Posted by: Jim at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (zhWvq)



True. Everybody loves seeing themselves on the screen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (guGkK)

90 that they've found a way to make Bowling look fake, gay and lame?

Alternatively, fabulous?

Posted by: Lancey McLanceface at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (uPqZl)

91 We ever going to get the A.C.E. system?

Or is ace more of a swimming in Dennis' wake kind of blogger?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:40 PM (KbCG3)

92 Plus, I'm already highly skeptical of their products, even when touted. I had planned to see Dune 2 in a theater, but RL intervened. My wife and I watched it last weekend on Max, and we were underwhelmed. I really liked Dune, but the 2 was weak. Still looked great but otherwise, meh.

My experience exactly.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:40 PM (xCA6C)

93 But Bill Paxton and Michael Biehn were only in one movie.

Yeah, they showed pictures of Biehn and Newt and said "Oh they died offscreen. Very sad."

Dee you bitch.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:34 PM (KRtlO)
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Wasn't Alan Smithee available to take final billing?

But at least that restores a bit of appreciation for the director of Se7en, The Game and Fight Club (among others).

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:41 PM (krQz2)

94 I watched "Land of Bad" recently. I really liked it in spite of how they got almost every military part egregiously wrong. You guys seen it?

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:41 PM (tRd71)

95 >> Plus, I'm already highly skeptical of their products, even when touted. I had planned to see Dune 2 in a theater, but RL intervened. My wife and I watched it last weekend on Max, and we were underwhelmed. I really liked Dune, but the 2 was weak


At least they stayed true to the series, there.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:41 PM (6d8kz)

96 Maybe they should focus more on diversity.
Posted by: Jim at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (zhWvq)


True. Everybody loves seeing themselves on the screen.


Ugly dullards need love too.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:41 PM (xCA6C)

97 Maybe I'll watch Casablanca this weekend.

Yes, I'm old and long for the days of self-sacrifice, good versus evil, men loving women, and dialog made for adults.

Yeeeesh, I am old.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:42 PM (JeYYB)

98 I really do have to take a look at what I think I'm pasting:
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That movie was also studio fucked so bad Fincher almost quit directing.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (tRd71)

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I think he still refuses to talk about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (GBKbO)
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Wasn't Alan Smithee available to take final billing?

But at least that restores a bit of appreciation for the director of Se7en, The Game and Fight Club (among others).

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:42 PM (krQz2)

99 "Male power fantasies are bad. They're toxic and unrealistic."

"Okay, here is control of a major franchise."

"Sweet, I'm turning this into a female power fantasy."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

100 I really liked it in spite of how they got almost every military part egregiously wrong.

I suppose that's a thing.
We needed more seasons.

Posted by: Space: Above and Beyond at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (gKWVE)

101 >>>Or is ace more of a swimming in Dennis' wake kind of blogger?

i'm here for JJ Sefton's scraps

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (KRtlO)

102 97 Maybe I'll watch Casablanca this weekend.

Yes, I'm old and long for the days of self-sacrifice, good versus evil, men loving women, and dialog made for adults.

Yeeeesh, I am old.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:42 PM (JeYYB)

Just watched an oldy on Prime called The Third Man. Great old school picture.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (KbCG3)

103 The Endless was made for about $1M and it was...amazing.

I think these ridiculous budgets have gotten Hollywood lazy...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (ibTVg)

104 98 Wasn't Alan Smithee available to take final billing?

But at least that restores a bit of appreciation for the director of Se7en, The Game and Fight Club (among others).
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:42 PM (krQz2)

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It was his first feature film. Taking his name off of it might have been career suicide.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

105 The only reason I go to my local movie theater is to see the live UFC pay per view. I would go more often as I enjoy seeing films in a theater but the only thing that seems to be on the marquee anymore is the 47th sequal to the 3rd reboot of some comic book character. Plus my 75" TV coupled to the rapid release of films on streaming and not having to worry about some asshole talking through the film, well, it should come as no surprise why I don't go anymore.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (Te7BW)

106 I'm seeing Furiosa on Sunday!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)


I'll be on the golf course.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (W/lyH)

107 103 The Endless was made for about $1M and it was...amazing.

I think these ridiculous budgets have gotten Hollywood lazy...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (ibTVg)

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The guys who made that have gotten sucked into the Disney machine.

They directed the second season of Loki (which I think I heard was good?).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (GBKbO)

108 Is that he's a vampire hunter and society is controlled by vampires and the cops are just the vampires' self-defense forces?

That sounds suspiciously like hate speech comrade.
Posted by: Christopher A. Wray at June 07, 2024 04:39 PM (ibTVg)
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Concur.

Posted by: Admiral That's So McRavin' at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (krQz2)

109 The theater setup is, at best, marginally better then what I have at home.

And at home I can pause, turn on subtitles, and go make snacks...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (ibTVg)

110 Maybe I'll watch Casablanca this weekend.

Yes, I'm old and long for the days of self-sacrifice, good versus evil, men loving women, and dialog made for adults.

Yeeeesh, I am old.


It's okay to admit you want to watch Ingrid Bergman. We understand.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (xCA6C)

111 >>>Just watched an oldy on Prime called The Third Man. Great old school picture.

I'm going to watch that this weekend.

Last weekend I watched The Man Who Knew Too Much. Meh!

Maybe I'm just not into Alfred Hitchock. I really only liked Rear Window. Everything else has been a shrug.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

112 Congress bailed out Chrysler. They bailed out the banks. They bailed out covid business. They will bail out Hollywood.

Posted by: torabora at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (0Gnoc)

113 Also I don't think making a terrible product for another segment of a imagined customer base and telling your loyal customers if they don't like it they racists, bigots, homophobes, and misogynists if you don't buy it is a good sales pitch.

But again maybe this time it will work.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (17s+e)

114 Just watched an oldy on Prime called The Third Man. Great old school picture.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (KbCG3)

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I'm going to check that out. Thanks.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (JeYYB)

115 I have one more Friedkin, and then I'm going back in time to watch Preston Sturges movies.

Old movies are fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

116 The Alien movie looks like it's just another reboot of the original. Better special effects, maybe.

The Watchers might be kind of interesting, but I'd hate to have it with a "twist" as dumb as The Village or The Happening....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (7fElN)

117 I see ace is embracing his inner Dennis Reynolds....


It's almost Summer...so.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:38 PM (6d8kz)
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Better than his inner Debbie Reynolds.

Posted by: Admiral That's So McRavin' at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (krQz2)

118 Going to see all three Lord of the Rings movies this weekend. After that, I'm pretty sure I'll never enter a theater again.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (XPM1I)

119 The first four Alien movies are effectively the same story repeated.

A group of working-class everymen get into a spacey environment and have to fight off an xenomorph. Also, there's Ripley.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:31 PM


Hey Ripley's underpants should have been good for at least a half dozen spin offs. Especially after she got the boob job for that Galaxy Quest movie.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (QNSds)

120 101 >>>Or is ace more of a swimming in Dennis' wake kind of blogger?

i'm here for JJ Sefton's scraps

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (KRtlO)

Man, that scene where Frank tells Dennis he's "got the AIDs, big time!" as a way to break down Dennis' latest conquest will never not be funny.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (KbCG3)

121 Just watched an oldy on Prime called The Third Man. Great old school picture.

The most zither movie ever made.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (xCA6C)

122 @61 Do you know about the tortured route Alien3 took to production?

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I'm not familiar with that, but I've seen the William Gibson (iirc) script. It was during a period when Weaver wasn't planning on coming back, so Ripley's not in it. Hicks is the main character, instead. I enjoyed reading it

Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (TRmu9)

123 Premis sounds stupid to me

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (fwDg9)

124 Rear Window is one of my favorites.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (JeYYB)

125 114 Just watched an oldy on Prime called The Third Man. Great old school picture.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (KbCG3)

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I'm going to check that out. Thanks.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (JeYYB)

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Wait...have neither of you heard of The Third Man before?

I always thought it was one of the most famous of older movies...Weird.

But yes, check it out. Welles appeared in it to secure more funding for his Othello movie...in the middle of production of his Othello movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

126 We're writing a movie about a detective who grafts a dog's nose on to his face so he can Smell Crime. It's called The Fifth Sense.

Posted by: Charlie and Mac at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

127 The Watchers might be kind of interesting, but I'd hate to have it with a "twist" as dumb as The Village or The Happening....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (7fElN)
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I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Lady In The Water at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (krQz2)

128 >> I really only liked Rear Window.


I could watch Grace Kelly wear cute outfits for eternity.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (6d8kz)

129 Will they new Alien movie feature a cast of thousands pouring through gaps in the Wall?

Posted by: torabora at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (0Gnoc)

130 Ripley's underpants > Fani's underpants

Posted by: noseplugs for sale at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (gKWVE)

131 Prime is offering me American Fiction. I’m leery about jumping in until some of you folks can clue me in. Is it woke or anti-woke? Is it any good?

Posted by: Blutarski at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (Cp1vk)

132 103 The Endless was made for about $1M and it was...amazing.

I think these ridiculous budgets have gotten Hollywood lazy...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:43 PM (ibTVg)
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I have admit, that had a pretty wild premise when it got going. The pacing at the beginning was slow, but then it started getting really interesting once stuff started happening...Don't want to give away spoilers...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (7fElN)

133 Maybe I'm just not into Alfred Hitchock. I really only liked Rear Window. Everything else has been a shrug.
Posted by: ace

Grace Kelly alone is with the watch. Meow.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (Te7BW)

134 >>Better than his inner Debbie Reynolds.


Don't rush him.

Winter is Coming.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (6d8kz)

135 The Watchers might be kind of interesting, but I'd hate to have it with a "twist" as dumb as The Village or The Happening....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (7fElN)

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M. Night is just the producer. His daughter is the writer & director.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (DRSnL)

136 Rear Window is one of my favorites.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (JeYYB)
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I can't wait for Backup Camera.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (krQz2)

137 The guys who made that have gotten sucked into the Disney machine.

They directed the second season of Loki (which I think I heard was good?).


They did a series of good low budget movies over 6 years:

2014 Spring
2017 The Endless
2019 Synchronic
2020 She Dies Tomorrow

and I've heard that 2022's Something in the Dirt was good too but they've been doing Disney work since then I have no interesting in seeing.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (ibTVg)

138 122 @61 Do you know about the tortured route Alien3 took to production?

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I'm not familiar with that, but I've seen the William Gibson (iirc) script. It was during a period when Weaver wasn't planning on coming back, so Ripley's not in it. Hicks is the main character, instead. I enjoyed reading it
Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (TRmu9)

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I think that was the earliest script. Then Ward took over, scrapped Gibson's script entirely, and made it monk-focused.

The final script takes most of Ward's script and puts it on a prison planet instead of the wooden world. I think some of the dialogue makes no sense in the context of the prison but makes more sense in the context of a floating monastery in space.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (GBKbO)

139 111 >>>Just watched an oldy on Prime called The Third Man. Great old school picture.

I'm going to watch that this weekend.

Last weekend I watched The Man Who Knew Too Much. Meh!

Maybe I'm just not into Alfred Hitchock. I really only liked Rear Window. Everything else has been a shrug.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

Well damn, I was actually going to watch that this weekend.

I may watch Rear Window again. That really was excellent.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (KbCG3)

140 The studios also fail to understand the foundation of economics -- scarcity. We're swimming in "content" - new, old, free, on-demand, included on streams, etc. Like newspapers when the Internet exploded, good luck to them figuring out a new business model after they've basically marginalized their own assets and changed the price expectations of their customers. But spending more and more to produce a single piece of "content" seems counter-intuitive given how $$, especially the incremental $$, are being generated.

Posted by: Kreskin at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (ecbNb)

141 1) The home movie experience is infinitely superior to the theater experience.
2) Even if Hollywood shut down tomorrow, there are already so many good movies (and TV shows) in the can (from all over the world, for over a century now) that a person couldn't even possibly see them all in a lifetime. It's not like there's nothing good to watch.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (MvF+J)

142 Amazon now has Anatomy of a Murder on for free. It's really good. Very modern-feeling movie from 1958. Courtroom thriller with Jimmy Stewart and George C. Scott battling. Stewart plays the "aw shucks, I'm just a country lawyer" act really well, and George C. Scott is incredibly annoyed that it's working. He seethes the whole movie.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

143 Maybe Hollywood could do a documentary about the Marubo porn watching.

Posted by: torabora at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (0Gnoc)

144 139 Last weekend I watched The Man Who Knew Too Much. Meh!

Maybe I'm just not into Alfred Hitchock. I really only liked Rear Window. Everything else has been a shrug.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

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Which Man Who Knew Too Much?

Jimmy Stewart or Peter Lorre?

Hitchcock made it twice. I prefer the earlier one with Lorre.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)

145 I have admit, that had a pretty wild premise when it got going. The pacing at the beginning was slow, but then it started getting really interesting once stuff started happening...Don't want to give away spoilers...

Each one of their movies has an interesting twist...like Shalmalan when he isn't being over the top...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (ibTVg)

146 I watched that Atlas, so you don't have to.

It's bad.

I don't know which is worse: The plot holes, the laughable science, the bad horrible stereotype dialog, or the predictability.
Every part was in competition to exceed the stupidity of the other.

And no T-n-A to at least give some payment for your time.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (g9W3m)

147 126 We're writing a movie about a detective who grafts a dog's nose on to his face so he can Smell Crime. It's called The Fifth Sense.
Posted by: Charlie and Mac at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

Question: Will there be any full penetration?

Also, it's about a super smart, hunky scientist.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (KbCG3)

148 Calling it now. In that Trap movie the *daughter* is the butcher not the father

Posted by: Gman at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (DFJYi)

149 Man, that scene where Frank tells Dennis he's "got the AIDs, big time!" as a way to break down Dennis' latest conquest will never not be funny.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (KbCG3)
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"The D.E.N.N.I.S. System" is one of the funnier episodes and establishes Dennis as a certified psychopath...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (7fElN)

150 Grace Kelly was impossibly beautiful.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (DRSnL)

151 146 I watched that Atlas, so you don't have to.

It's bad.

I don't know which is worse: The plot holes, the laughable science, the bad horrible stereotype dialog, or the predictability.
Every part was in competition to exceed the stupidity of the other.

And no T-n-A to at least give some payment for your time.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (g9W3m)

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I watched Critical Drinker's review. Is that close enough?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

152
You can't survive long on costly failure after costly failure.

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Collectivism appears to be the exception to the rule ... until it isn't.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (5PbMj)

153 Stewart plays the "aw shucks, I'm just a country lawyer" act really well


Gahhhhh. I cannot STAND Stewart and his cornpone stutter.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (xCA6C)

154 I may watch Rear Window again. That really was excellent.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (KbCG3)
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Real men watch Rope.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (krQz2)

155 I recently started using my local library for movies...they have a surprisingly large selection. And unlike Netflix or its competitors I don't have to worry about the movie being on someone else's service...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (ibTVg)

156 Amazon now has Anatomy of a Murder on for free. It's really good. Very modern-feeling movie from 1958. Courtroom thriller with Jimmy Stewart and George C. Scott battling. Stewart plays the "aw shucks, I'm just a country lawyer" act really well, and George C. Scott is incredibly annoyed that it's working. He seethes the whole movie.
Posted by: ace

Plus no friggin commercials.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (Te7BW)

157 148 Calling it now. In that Trap movie the *daughter* is the butcher not the father
Posted by: Gman at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (DFJYi)

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According to the screening review I've read (which may or may not be genuine)...nope.

There's pretty much no twist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

158 "Alien 3 came out during that really bad phase of CGI when everyone was determined to use it but most of it looked awful."

Oh boy. This shit again.

Alien 3's creature is not CGI. IT'S. NOT. CGI. I've been hearing this crap for decades, and it still persists. It was a rod puppet shot against blue-screen. If you don't like the visual effects of Alien 3, fine, but they are TRADITIONAL optical effects you are complaining about.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (VxbvY)

159 149 Man, that scene where Frank tells Dennis he's "got the AIDs, big time!" as a way to break down Dennis' latest conquest will never not be funny.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:45 PM (KbCG3)
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"The D.E.N.N.I.S. System" is one of the funnier episodes and establishes Dennis as a certified psychopath...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (7fElN)

"Wrong! Wrong! You let her get stabbed!"

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (KbCG3)

160 The trailers for Atlas just looked tired and weak. And if the trailer is bad so usually is the movie...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (ibTVg)

161 158 "Alien 3 came out during that really bad phase of CGI when everyone was determined to use it but most of it looked awful."

Oh boy. This shit again.

Alien 3's creature is not CGI. IT'S. NOT. CGI. I've been hearing this crap for decades, and it still persists. It was a rod puppet shot against blue-screen. If you don't like the visual effects of Alien 3, fine, but they are TRADITIONAL optical effects you are complaining about.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (VxbvY)

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There are, like, 2 CGI shots of the alien, and they're both laughably bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

162 Grace Kelly was impossibly beautiful.

And yet was apparently quite a round heels.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (xCA6C)

163 Look, remaking movies is almost always a waste of time now because:

1) They remake great movies. Hence, they can't re-make it better - the best they can do is approximately equal the great movie they are remaking.

2) So, they decide to do the "same but different" That is almost always when the stupid "girl boss" thing gets inserted. Or the "the same, but now they are black...Or the same now they are gay." (as an aside, my wife's term for this is "Now with added gayness", just like soap is "Now with added pine scent."

3) Audiences, seeing this happens so many times, have gotten wise to this ploy, and are just bored with it. In fact, it is a sign of, get this, nonmisogynistic and nonracist attitudes. They don't see the old version as being white and male, and therefore don't see the new version as being anything "new". If the new John McClaine is black...so? Or a woman is now Darth Vader...so? It is not, in of and of itself, interesting.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (nLFEI)

164 >>>Jimmy Stewart or Peter Lorre?

the later one, 1956.

I looked up whether Foul Play was inspired by it. The consensus seems to be that it was.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (KRtlO)

165 When you look at the percentage of the population, last weekend's $67 million TOTAL ticket sales (total, not the top 10), less than 1.8% of folks in the US went to a movie.

Hollywood's audience just got more selective, I guess.

So, YES, Hollywood is in deep deep trouble.

Good.

Posted by: joe d at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (JTyPA)

166 154 I may watch Rear Window again. That really was excellent.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:47 PM (KbCG3)
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Real men watch Rope.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (krQz2)

Watched that the other night. Was okay. Stewart was easily the best part.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (KbCG3)

167 >>Grace Kelly was impossibly beautiful.


Yep. Even extremely attractive women that shared the screen with her went almost unnoticed.

Also, heard she had a great head game. Which never hurts a girls reputation.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (6d8kz)

168 >>> 112 Congress bailed out Chrysler. They bailed out the banks. They bailed out covid business. They will bail out Hollywood.
Posted by: torabora at June 07, 2024 04:44 PM (0Gnoc)

2500 jobs saved!

Posted by: GOPe at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (llON8)

169 "If you don't like the visual effects of Alien 3, fine,"

I dislike it because it's a shit movie.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (MvF+J)

170 We like the novels of Chris Bohjalian, who wrote among others, "The Flight Attendant," "The Guest Room," and his newest, one I am just near finishing, "The Princess of Los Vegas."

All are thrillers, involving innocent people unwittingly getting involved with some really bad guys, some very sharp women and men, murders, guns, in other words, thrillers.

"The Flight Attendant" was done as a vehicle for Kelly whatshername, and it was serialized, with the ensuing additional seasons not from the book. It was OK but would have been better if totally true to the book.

The other two, "Guest Room," and "Princess" would make terrific films, but the problem with Hollywood is they'd wreck them with woke. There are no minorities, no POCs, no LGs or Bs or Ts, so nothing there to give it the diversity demanded by the studios today.

TFB.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (ZtgZZ)

171 >>>And yet was apparently quite a round heels.

you mean she was a slapper?

Dee you bitch.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (KRtlO)

172 By the way - Dune showed there is good money in re-making Bad or mediocre movies.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (nLFEI)

173 Is Alien 3 the one with the xenomorph dog and convicts or the one with the Alien Giant Baby and Winona Rider?

The former was bad. The latter was one of the worst movies I have ever seen.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (ibTVg)

174 There are comments about Hunter never having met his 5 year old daughter...

You don't want a Biden meeting his young daughter. There is a picture on Hunter's Laptop that appears to be a young Ashley with Hunter doing what appears to be a Bill Clinton White House act.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (CecP5)

175 Don't make too much of my dog mask because I just smell the leather it's made of.

Posted by: Col. Connelly at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (0Gnoc)

176 164 the later one, 1956.

I looked up whether Foul Play was inspired by it. The consensus seems to be that it was.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (KRtlO)

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What of North by Northwest? The ultimate Hitchcock movie (as the writer said was his intention).

Have you opinion on that one?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (GBKbO)

177 I finally looked at the basic plot of Aliens Romulus, and I'm confused.

One of the basic ideas in Aliens is that WeYu doesn't have all of the info on the egg nest on the planet. It's not until Ripley reports what happened that someone can be sent to check on it. And Bad Things Happen(tm), as we all know.

But Romulus is supposed to be set between the first and second movies, and apparently has this group investigating a WeYu research station that's got a xenomorph problem. So where did WeYu get the xenomorphs?

Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (TRmu9)

178 Amazon now has Anatomy of a Murder on for free. It's really good. Very modern-feeling movie from 1958. Courtroom thriller with Jimmy Stewart and George C. Scott battling. Stewart plays the "aw shucks, I'm just a country lawyer" act really well, and George C. Scott is incredibly annoyed that it's working. He seethes the whole movie.
Posted by: ace

Plus no friggin commercials.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Plus Lee Remick.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (Dm8we)

179 106, I think this one of the movies that keeps coming up on my Tubi, playlist.

Btw, there are a bunch of Euro movies from the 90s era I think you should review. There is Mediteranio, also a very underrated film called Summer Lovers. There are many other movies like Mediterraneo that are great films. Summer lovers is not a great film, but to me just a fun one. It has sex history, Greece travel everything really.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (ZSOPI)

180 Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM (nLFEI)

Another caveat is ego. If I simply remake a movie, why would you give me any credit?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (KbCG3)

181 >>>And yet was apparently quite a round heels.

you mean she was a slapper?

Dee you bitch.


I'm several cycles behind in these references.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (xCA6C)

182 I am salivating for Rear Window: iPhone Edition with Lizzo replacing Grace Kelly.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (Te7BW)

183 177 But Romulus is supposed to be set between the first and second movies, and apparently has this group investigating a WeYu research station that's got a xenomorph problem. So where did WeYu get the xenomorphs?
Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 04:52 PM (TRmu9)

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"Consistent lore is for suckers!"
-George Miller

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

184 So, they decide to do the "same but different" That is almost always when the stupid "girl boss" thing gets inserted. Or the "the same, but now they are black...Or the same now they are gay."

The number of movies I am seeing now set in Europe before WWI but with a bunch of black people is...ridiculous.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (ibTVg)

185 You can't be a serious fan of Hitchcock unless you've watched his silents. Like Rich & Strange (which I recommend)

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (krQz2)

186 >>>What of North by Northwest? The ultimate Hitchcock movie (as the writer said was his intention).Have you opinion on that one?

I tried to watch it but got bored. I'll try again but it seems like they were making the script up on the spot every day. It's so random.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (KRtlO)

187 is The Lodger worth watching?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:54 PM (KRtlO)

188 Plus no friggin commercials.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 07, 2024 04:49 PM (Te7BW)

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I thought Amazon had commercials now, unless you pay extra?

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 04:54 PM (DRSnL)

189 185 You can't be a serious fan of Hitchcock unless you've watched his silents. Like Rich & Strange (which I recommend)
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (krQz2)

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I've seen (and reviewed) 'em all!

https://is.gd/T11FLO

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

190 There are, like, 2 CGI shots of the alien, and they're both laughably bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:50 PM

There are two CGI shots in the entire film, and only one is of the alien (when its skull is cracking from the cooling lead).

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 04:54 PM (VxbvY)

191 I really liked the first 30 minutes of Godzilla Minus One. It was about a failed kamikaze trying to come to grips with postwar Tokyo. It was a pity they had to introduce a monster. I'd have preferred they just continued what they were doing.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:55 PM (xCA6C)

192 Garfield was also a pleasant surprise in that the theme revolves around the importance of fathers, which is not something you'd expect from hollywood.
Posted by: the dandy at June 07, 2024 04:33 PM (ImXfC)


I am impressed I suppose, but I never thought that James A. Garfield was a role model for fatherhood, in spite of having five children of his own.
He seemed to me to be more of the story of an aggressive man pushed into the Presidency and from there into a stance of reform by the refusal of his party and his cabinet to get along in the job of actually governing instead of trying to stuff their own pockets - I never thought that Senator John Sherman was responsible for his assassination in revenge for stealing his candidacy, but I would not discount any evidence that was produced today to support the claim, and found the extent of the public mourning to be suspicious.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 04:55 PM (D7oie)

193 Dune showed there is good money in re-making Bad or mediocre movies.

I thought the best part of the new Dune was having Hillary Clinton reprising her Baron Harkonnen Role from the 1984 movie.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 07, 2024 04:55 PM (CecP5)

194 186 >>>What of North by Northwest? The ultimate Hitchcock movie (as the writer said was his intention).Have you opinion on that one?

I tried to watch it but got bored. I'll try again but it seems like they were making the script up on the spot every day. It's so random.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:53 PM (KRtlO)

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Chacun son gout.

If you don't like it, you don't like it, but I get a lot of enjoyment out of those ridiculous thrillers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

195 Just watch The Three Amigos.

It's the pinnacle of American Film and really, the only movie you ever need.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:55 PM (6d8kz)

196 "Is the sky falling?"


Man, I hope so.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (WXNFJ)

197 I thought Amazon had commercials now, unless you pay extra?

They do, and it's painful. I'm going to have to break down and pay them the Danegeld.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (xCA6C)

198 Last film I saw was Avatar 2.

I brought ear plugs. I am so glad I brought ear plugs. My hearing is excellent and I wasn't going to have it damaged for a lousy movie...

Posted by: Stateless at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (jvJvP)

199 >>>Just watch The Three Amigos.

I should watch that again. i think it's on one of the channels for free. Either Amazon or Tubi or pluto.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

200 So the premise of "Trap" is ridiculous. Cops are after a violent killer right? So they send everyone to..a concert with thousands of potential hostages? Okie dokie.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (tRd71)

201 187 is The Lodger worth watching?
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:54 PM (KRtlO)

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It's more gothic mystery than Hitchcock mystery, I think, a distinction that most people won't give any credence too.

It's called his "first" movie (it was, like, his third produced or so, but the first that sort of resembles his later effort).

I mean...you need to like silents to get into it, but I think it's a pretty good little gothic mystery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

202 Dennis is a psychopath. In the two part high school reunion episode he storms out to his car to get his “tools”. Zip ties and duct tape.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 07, 2024 04:57 PM (Cp1vk)

203 > Maybe I'm just not into Alfred Hitchock. I really only liked Rear Window. Everything else has been a shrug.

I also liked The Birds and Psycho, but I have the same response to pretty much everything else. I'm especially surprised whenever someone names Rope as one of their favorite Hitchcock movies. I find that one boring as hell.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2024 04:57 PM (Odg76)

204 okay maybe i'll watch The Lodger.

I watched The Invisible Man. Good performance but also pretty random.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:58 PM (KRtlO)

205 >>>But Romulus is supposed to be set between the first and second movies, and apparently has this group investigating a WeYu research station that's got a xenomorph problem. So where did WeYu get the xenomorphs?

So it's a fucking prequel? What the fuck?

Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 04:58 PM (Hucnr)

206 Maybe stockpile a few DVDs along with the food & ammo …

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic. . . at June 07, 2024 04:58 PM (TX4bP)

207 202 Dennis is a psychopath. In the two part high school reunion episode he storms out to his car to get his “tools”. Zip ties and duct tape.
Posted by: Blutarski at June 07, 2024 04:57 PM (Cp1vk)

He just likes to bind and be bound. What's wrong with that?

His monologue about skinning Dee that nets him actual anti-psychotic drugs is the pinnacle of his psychopathy.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 04:58 PM (KbCG3)

208 I saw Sound of Freedom recently. Now THAT is how you make a movie...

Interesting characters with motivations you can understand and a plot that makes sense.

Of course the only gay characters in it get arrested so I understand why Hollywierd did not approve

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 04:58 PM (ibTVg)

209 >>It's more gothic mystery than Hitchcock mystery


If someone made Brautigan's - The Hawkline Monster into a film, I would watch it.

I'd watch a film version of Willard and His Bowling Trophies, too.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (6d8kz)

210 We probably aren't going to have another Grace Kelly alas.

Beauty standards problematic etal.

Posted by: filler at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (78cK7)

211 "The Hollywood Reporter Wonders If This Time, Hollywood Really Is In Trouble " . In light of the way that Hollywood treats and demonizes conservatives, who gives a shit ? As they say, let it all burn down. I mean, they've worked so hard at it why deny them the results of their efforts ?

Posted by: Edward at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (93DJn)

212 It's called The Fifth Sense.

Posted by: Charlie and Mac at June 07, 2024 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

Only to find out he smells but does not understand the doggie internet always and can't resist the urge to sniff dog butts.

Posted by: Reforger at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (xcIvR)

213 199 >>>Just watch The Three Amigos.

I should watch that again. i think it's on one of the channels for free. Either Amazon or Tubi or pluto.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 04:56 PM (KRtlO)
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Just ask the singing bush.

Posted by: WIsRich at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (G0vdT)

214 203 I also liked The Birds and Psycho, but I have the same response to pretty much everything else. I'm especially surprised whenever someone names Rope as one of their favorite Hitchcock movies. I find that one boring as hell.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2024 04:57 PM (Odg76)

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Hitchcock loved to experiment, and Rope was an experiment first and foremost. He didn't think it was successful because he denied himself the key tool of cinema: the edit. (It's not actually one continuous shot or even one simulated continuous shot, it has 3 or 4 straight edits.)

It's also not his first real experiment with extended takes, either. That was Under Capricorn, a drama that I found extremely underrated but mis-sold as a Hitchcock thriller.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (GBKbO)

215 I also recently watched the French film "Wages of Fear"

Yeah, movies in the west are shit.

It was so horrible. The scenery of the empty desert was the only good part.
A WE teen series canceled before it airs has better dialog.
It's MST3K bad.
Things like taking out soldiers with full auto rifles with a pistol at 100 yards.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (g9W3m)

216 203 > Maybe I'm just not into Alfred Hitchock. I really only liked Rear Window. Everything else has been a shrug.

I also liked The Birds and Psycho, but I have the same response to pretty much everything else. I'm especially surprised whenever someone names Rope as one of their favorite Hitchcock movies. I find that one boring as hell.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 07, 2024 04:57 PM (Odg76)

Two great things about The Birds:

No explanation
No music

Just a damn shame Suzanne Pleshette had an old lesbo haircut. Tsk, tsk.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (KbCG3)

217 199 Tubi, Tubi is underrated inmo.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (ZSOPI)

218 Sound of Freedom is not perfect (I can break down the flaws if you wish), but yeah, it is better than most of the crap I've seen in the last few years.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (VxbvY)

219 Hey, cool, TJM!

You rate Vertigo as one of Hitch's best--just like me!

I love The Trouble With Harry, even though I'll admit it runs like of like a slightly macabre episode of Andy Griffith.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (krQz2)

220 215 I also recently watched the French film "Wages of Fear"

Yeah, movies in the west are shit.

It was so horrible. The scenery of the empty desert was the only good part.
A WE teen series canceled before it airs has better dialog.
It's MST3K bad.
Things like taking out soldiers with full auto rifles with a pistol at 100 yards.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 04:59 PM (g9W3m)

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The new one? I heard that was not very good.

The original from the 50s by Henri-Georges Clouzot is fantastic, though. Friedkin remade it with Sorcerer, which is also great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

221 The way movie distribution is now structured with a mad rush from theaters to streaming, if your schedule is a bit inflexible for a bit .. it’s gone

Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (RHGPo)

222 I thought Amazon had commercials now, unless you pay extra?
Posted by: Jordan61

This is mostly true. Older films, say 30 years old plus, often do not have commercials. These are the only films I watch on Amazon anymore. I'm thinking of canceling my prime subscription cuz I barely use it anymore because of the ads.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (Te7BW)

223 I think in some ways M. Night Shayamalan screwed himself by bursting on to the scene with three really good movies. Yes after Signs he had a several duds but Split and Glass were really good...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 05:01 PM (ibTVg)

224 215 , I’ve been binging French films for a year or so and still don’t know if I actually like them. I do keep watching them though so there is that.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:01 PM (ZSOPI)

225 219 Hey, cool, TJM!

You rate Vertigo as one of Hitch's best--just like me!

I love The Trouble With Harry, even though I'll admit it runs like of like a slightly macabre episode of Andy Griffith.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (krQz2)

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Vertigo being one of his best ain't exactly an unpopular opinion! I've always loved Notorious, though. Nothing can touch it.

I tried to get Dolley to enjoy Trouble with Harry. She did not. It's a delight, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

226 I saw the thought somewhere recently that Three Amigos is Galaxy Quest as a western. Or Galaxy Quest is Three Amigos in space.

Posted by: Open Channel D at June 07, 2024 05:02 PM (7CkHf)

227 These are the only films I watch on Amazon anymore. I'm thinking of canceling my prime subscription cuz I barely use it anymore because of the ads.

I can't cancel it because we use Prime so much for the shipping.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 05:02 PM (xCA6C)

228 Seems like a tentpole is only a tentpole after the fact of it makes a lot of money. Apes and Furiosa see like big movies with big IP behind them. But they aren’t tentpoles because … they underperformed?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:02 PM (bwQbf)

229 They need to stop thinking they're stars and "creators" and start thinking that they work in a customer-service industry.

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Outsource it to Bollywood, then!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 05:03 PM (5PbMj)

230 I keep telling myself that one day I won't be able to buy any more movies for whatever reason.

If I had to stop cold right now, I'd be very happy with my collection as my sole source of visual entertainment for the rest of my life.

But...still...I need that copy of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:03 PM (GBKbO)

231 Notorious is mind-blowingly good. But I also put Rope and NxNW on the same shelf.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:03 PM (VxbvY)

232 I still haven't seen Oppenheimer, and it's been almost a year since its release. Netflix wants me to pay big $ to rent it and I refuse.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 05:03 PM (xCA6C)

233
I can't wait for Backup Camera.
Posted by: Axeman


Starring Pete Buttigieg

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (63Dwl)

234 >>> I’ve been binging French films for a year or so and still don’t know if I actually like them. I do keep watching them though so there is that.

Return of the Hero (Le Retour de Heros) is funny. the guy from OSS 117 is in it, as is Melanie Laurent, from Now You See Me and Inglorious Basterds.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

235 >>I keep telling myself that one day I won't be able to buy any more movies for whatever reason.


I have this problem with Records.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (6d8kz)

236 >>>Notorious is mind-blowingly good.

i'll look for that one, I don't think Amazon has it.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

237 To me, the funny thing is that there are screenwriters that could create something good and new, but the studios are generally all about re-treading or retconning a movie story from 10, 20 or 30 years ago.

What a steaming mess of a collapse of imagination. The assumption is the people will eagerly lap up the gruel. Some people obviously will, but most will not.

I stream a lot of movies at home with my wife, but I have seen a TON of movies in my life, and there are not too many GOOD movies left to watch. A lot of real stinkers out there, and not just "B" movies. C-minus or really worse.
Maybe I take up a new hobby to while away the hours instead of watching umpteen episodes of "Jay Leno's Garage" on Youtube, which I think is kind of fun....but that wears out too.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (vcOmj)

238 234 Return of the Hero (Le Retour de Heros) is funny. the guy from OSS 117 is in it, as is Melanie Laurent, from Now You See Me and Inglorious Basterds.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

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I bought a two pack of the OSS117 movies with Jean dujardin a little while back, and I still haven't popped them in...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (GBKbO)

239 I can't cancel it because we use Prime so much for the shipping.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 05:02 PM (xCA6C)

Prime Video is almost unwatchable. Awful interface, and the ads are obnoxious.

But I love the free shipping! Especially when I order one pack of floss for $2.78 and I get it delivered the next morning...for free.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (d9fT1)

240 235 >>I keep telling myself that one day I won't be able to buy any more movies for whatever reason.


I have this problem with Records.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (6d8kz)

Considered buying a record player a bit ago and then saw the price of records.

I'm good.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (KbCG3)

241 >>> 169 "If you don't like the visual effects of Alien 3, fine,"

I dislike it because it's a shit movie.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at June 07, 2024 04:51 PM (MvF+J)

*sits quietly*

Posted by: Highlander 2 at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (llON8)

242 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)
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A little too hard on Marnie, I would say.

Great job I thought by Hedron.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (krQz2)

243 226 I saw the thought somewhere recently that Three Amigos is Galaxy Quest as a western. Or Galaxy Quest is Three Amigos in space.
Posted by: Open Channel D at June 07, 2024 05:02 PM (7CkHf)
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Thinking.....yeah, I could buy that.

Posted by: WIsRich at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (G0vdT)

244
One of fake "comedian" jimmy fallon's many "writers" recently tweeted that the "movie-going public sucks shit." That's a quote, btw.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (PHraW)

245 140 The studios also fail to understand the foundation of economics -- scarcity. We're swimming in "content" - new, old, free, on-demand, included on streams, etc.
Posted by: Kreskin at June 07, 2024 04:48 PM (ecbNb)

YES!

I watched a movie from 2009 called Solomon Kane. Now, is it great, no. Is it good? Yes. Surprisingly so.

The budget for this movie was $40 million in 2009, which is $58.4 million today. And this fucking thing look better than most $150 million movies made today. Better acting, better design, better costumes, better sets, better directing, better acting. A mid budget failure from 2009 looks a shit ton better than most project made today.

Why? Where is all the fucking money going? it sure doesn't end up on screen.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (nLFEI)

246 I stream a lot of movies at home with my wife, but I have seen a TON of movies in my life, and there are not too many GOOD movies left to watch. A lot of real stinkers out there, and not just "B" movies. C-minus or really worse.

Part of the problem may be that there is so much content out there, we've become jaded about all but the best stuff, or at least the stuff with the most over the top spectacle.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 05:06 PM (xCA6C)

247 I still haven't seen Oppenheimer, and it's been almost a year since its release. Netflix wants me to pay big $ to rent it and I refuse.

The half of the movie about making the bomb is pretty good. The half of the movie about poor Oppenheimer being put upon is...not that good and rather one sided.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 07, 2024 05:06 PM (ibTVg)

248 Melanie Laurent

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM (KRtlO)


She is quite attractive.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2024 05:06 PM (d9fT1)

249 242 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)
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A little too hard on Marnie, I would say.

Great job I thought by Hedron.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (krQz2)

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I'd actually seen it twice when I wrote the review. The first time was in college. I remember liking it a good bit.

And then I revisited it, and I found it just completely fake.

It's the use of psychiatry as a magical talisman to fix things. Hitchcock loved that stuff, but that sort of mechanical approach to storytelling can work when it's applied to plot. I find it utterly unconvincing when applied to the human mind.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (GBKbO)

250 I’ll check that out Ace for sure. It is cool that in the French film world you keep running into the same actors and you get to know them a bit. It is kind of like New York Italian actors with the Martin Scorsese films, You see the same guys all the time.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (ZSOPI)

251 i'll look for that one, I don't think Amazon has it.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:04 PM

It's owned by abc Television, so technically Disney. Maybe it's on D+? It did get a very nice blu-ray from the Criterion Collection. The earlier MGM blu-ray isn't bad either.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (VxbvY)

252 But...still...I need that copy of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:03 PM (GBKbO)

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How would you be able to live without Prometheus 2: Predator Versus Terminator Boogaloo?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (5PbMj)

253 >>>I bought a two pack of the OSS117 movies with Jean dujardin a little while back, and I still haven't popped them in...

they're really funny. Way too long for comedies, though -- over 2 hrs each. They wear you down.

There's this great joke in the second one. Early on you see OSS 117 looking at plans for building a wooden boat with a big duck's head and wings. Later on they're lost in the Amazon and they build a boat.

Then you see them having crossed the river, but OSS 117 is angry. The girl he's partnered with says "But we didn't have TIME to build the duck's head!" and he shouts, "Oh we had plenty of time!!!"

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

254 >>Considered buying a record player a bit ago and then saw the price of records.


Yard Sales, Swap Meets and 2nd Hand / Antique Stores are good sources for cheap records.

But, new and collectible records out of a record shop are crazy expensive.

I'd grab a TT off of CList or from a local repair guy and set a max for what you are willing to pay per sleeve and just bargain shop.

The days of people paying you to take their record collections away are long gone, tho.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (6d8kz)

255 Just a damn shame Suzanne Pleshette had an old lesbo haircut. Tsk, tsk.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 07, 2024 05:00 PM (KbCG3)
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Maybe, but some Suzanne Pleshette on screen is better than no Suzanne Pleshette on screen.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (krQz2)

256 The Third Man has better performances than Citizen Kane.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (cf/0E)

257 245 I watched a movie from 2009 called Solomon Kane. Now, is it great, no. Is it good? Yes. Surprisingly so.

The budget for this movie was $40 million in 2009, which is $58.4 million today. And this fucking thing look better than most $150 million movies made today. Better acting, better design, better costumes, better sets, better directing, better acting. A mid budget failure from 2009 looks a shit ton better than most project made today.

Why? Where is all the fucking money going? it sure doesn't end up on screen.
Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (nLFEI)

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It bombed horribly, which is sad. We could have gotten a trilogy of Solomon Kane movies.

And then the director went tranny and cut off his dick to become a lady. Probably unrelated to the failure of the film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (GBKbO)

258 >>>She is quite attractive.

yes I like her a lot.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

259 I watched a movie from 2009 called Solomon Kane. Now, is it great, no. Is it good? Yes. Surprisingly so.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (nLFEI)


Good movie. Everything about it was solid. I finished it and thought, "I was just entertained!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2024 05:08 PM (d9fT1)

260 Confidential to Archimedes:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfhs6v9

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:08 PM (/7KEl)

261 >>> 245
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I watched a movie from 2009 called Solomon Kane. Now, is it great, no. Is it good? Yes. Surprisingly so.

The budget for this movie was $40 million in 2009, which is $58.4 million today. And this fucking thing look better than most $150 million movies made today. Better acting, better design, better costumes, better sets, better directing, better acting. A mid budget failure from 2009 looks a shit ton better than most project made today.

Why? Where is all the fucking money going? it sure doesn't end up on screen.
Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM (nLFEI)

Catering for the stars and um.... stuff.

Posted by: Hollywood accounting at June 07, 2024 05:08 PM (llON8)

262 Part of the problem may be that there is so much content out there, we've become jaded about all but the best stuff, or at least the stuff with the most over the top spectacle.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 05:06 PM (xCA6C)
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It's a problem with almost all entertainment--oversaturation of the market.

Books, movies, music, games, you name it and there's just so much out there that it's nearly impossible to find the good stuff anymore...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 07, 2024 05:08 PM (7fElN)

263 What of North by Northwest? The ultimate Hitchcock movie (as the writer said was his intention).Have you opinion on that one?

I tried to watch it but got bored. I'll try again but it seems like they were making the script up on the spot every day. It's so random.
Posted by: ace

The kind of sad part is that it is a good movie, but it's a period piece, and the America that is in that movie is long dead. I wish we could get that America back, but now there are too many tatttoos to make that happen.
It is also something of a remake of Hitchcock's "The 39 Steps", which was a pre-WWII black and white movie.
But if you don't like it, doesn't mean much...because if you don't like it, you don't.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 07, 2024 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

264 253 they're really funny. Way too long for comedies, though -- over 2 hrs each. They wear you down.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

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I've seen them before, but it's just been too long.

And since they're French, I can't just pop them in while working. I have to actually...you know...pay attention.

Ugh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (GBKbO)

265 Bill Murray in The Man Who Knew Too Little > Jimmy Stewart in The Man Who Knew Too Much

Posted by: Not One of Hitchcock's Better Films at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (+RNLW)

266 Great job I thought by Hedron.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:05 PM

I think she's the film's anchor, personally. It didn't help that Hitch chose source material that the Hayes code couldn't possibly do justice to. But Tippi is in way over her head.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (VxbvY)

267 Prime Video is almost unwatchable. Awful interface, and the ads are obnoxious.

But I love the free shipping! Especially when I order one pack of floss for $2.78 and I get it delivered the next morning...for free.


Right? You never know when you'll have a floss emergency.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (xCA6C)

268 Hitchcock can't be great because he didn't compete with Black directors.

Posted by: Stephen A Smith at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (78cK7)

269
I've been enjoying all the scathing reviews of the garbage "acolyte" series by Lesbian Headlamp.

Everyone is saying what a joke this "murder-mystery" is since the killer (the supposed-to-be-bead-identical evil twin) was revealed in the first few minutes of the first episode.

HOWEVER, it has occurred to (and only me) that there indeed will be a "plot twist" and it's this: There is no evil twin. The one sister, the alive one, is a SCHIZO maniac. Mark my words.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (PHraW)

270 word around the campfire is, there's a 3rd Maverick movie being knocked around

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (/7KEl)

271 268 Hitchcock can't be great because he didn't compete with Black directors.
Posted by: Stephen A Smith at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (78cK7)

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He also didn't think a man could become a woman. Psycho is the most anti-trans piece of film in history.

CANCELED!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (GBKbO)

272 I like Hitchcock movies

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (fwDg9)

273 I haven't been to a movie theater in years.

Last movie I got roped into seeing at a theater was "It's Complicated" with Alec Baldwin. 2009 I think it was.

The movie sucked and so did the broad who made me go with her.

Yeah! Oh Yeah!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (R/m4+)

274 The Third Man has better performances than Citizen Kane.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM (cf/0E)
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The brilliance of Kane is in the cinematography that *any* of us in today's age have seen way too much to notice. But it began with Welles.

The story is not as momentous.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (krQz2)

275 I'm in the biz.

I'll save you a lot of time.

Yes, it's over. It will take 5-10 years to unravel where you'll see quite less physical theaters.

Hollywood will die quicker
They couldn't market 2
really good recent movies, Godzilla Minus One (made us cry) and Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare which is based on true story of WW2 espionage. Both of them are rompers that should have done 150-250 $million. They'll make more off streaming. Sad

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (W+TLY)

276 270 word around the campfire is, there's a 3rd Maverick movie being knocked around
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (/7KEl)

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Top Gun?

Yeah, Paramount's been itching to make another for a couple of years. The problem is that the latest MI movie underperformed, Paramount has used that to try and take Cruise down a peg in terms of his power, it's pissed him off, and he signed a deal with WB to develop stuff since. Also, the next MI movie is wildly overbudget.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:11 PM (GBKbO)

277 The new one? I heard that was not very good.
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Yeah. I had zero expectations going in and it was worse.

The villagers, all 50 of them, praying for .... something? as they stare at the 200 ft plume of black smoke and flame, even though it's a gas well, waiting for the evil oil company to save them (because major oil companies care about gas explosion killing a few dirt farmers in Shitholestan), instead of, you know, getting the fuck out of town?

Just amazing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 05:11 PM (g9W3m)

278 Do Trans Bullets turn you Trans? Wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 07, 2024 05:12 PM (o2zz+)

279 >>>0 word around the campfire is, there's a 3rd Maverick movie being knocked around

i don't know about that but Support Your Local Gunfighter is on one of the channels (Amzon, Tubi, or Pluto)

I want to see it. I really liked James Garner in The Great Escape (which I'd never seen before -- really good! Like mission impossible but at a POW camp)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

280 Bill Murray in The Man Who Knew Too Little > Jimmy Stewart in The Man Who Knew Too Much

Posted by: Not One of Hitchcock's Better Films at June 07, 2024 05:09 PM (+RNLW)
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One of my favorite comedies. I've seen it ~ 20 times.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:12 PM (krQz2)

281 274 vThe story is not as momentous.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (krQz2)

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I love the story of Citizen Kane.

It's about how people are unknowable, carry secrets, and can't be easily explained.

The newsreel that takes up the first ten minutes gets almost as deep into Kane as a man as the rest of the film. I love that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:12 PM (GBKbO)

282 Notorious is mind-blowingly good.

i'll look for that one, I don't think Amazon has it.
Posted by: ace

It's an old B&W movie with Cary Grant and Ingrid Bergman. I saw it years ago. I wouldn't call it mind-blowingly good, but it is a good movie.
The problem is that Hitchcock, Orson Welles and other really good directors, introduced some original story telling techniques, back in the 1930's and 1940's, that have all be widely imitated, so a lot of the originality these movies had when they were new is lost on modern audiences, because they have seen these story techniques before in newer movies (like "Citizen Kane", for instance, which was so good it was wildly imitated).

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (vcOmj)

283 I'm a M:I fan, but only starting with Ghost Protocol

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

284 283 I'm a M:I fan, but only starting with Ghost Protocol
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

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I own them all.

Except 2.

Fuck 2. John Woo is a hack.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (GBKbO)

285 It's the use of psychiatry as a magical talisman to fix things. Hitchcock loved that stuff, but that sort of mechanical approach to storytelling can work when it's applied to plot. I find it utterly unconvincing when applied to the human mind.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:07 PM

I never felt that was Hitchcock's view of psychiatry. But it was DEFINITELY Selznick's view. Psychiatry as something half magical and half logical science is the nonsense Selznick peddled in "Spellbound" because he was having a manic episode after some good sessions with a therapist following one of his breakdowns. Hitch directed the story he was told to.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (VxbvY)

286
Do you know original SHOGUN is better than the new fake Shogun?

Because new Shogun "current-dayed" it a little with the dialogue. And they made Mariko some sort of lethal swordsman ninja because grl power. New, fake Mariko is also a whiny bitch about the "patriarchy."

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (PHraW)

287 He also didn't think a man could become a woman. Psycho is the most anti-trans piece of film in history.

CANCELED!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup. A man dresses like his mama--AND suddenly THAT makes him a murderer they call a "PSYCHO"!!

Robert Bloch sure hated women.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (krQz2)

288 >>>283 I'm a M:I fan, but only starting with Ghost Protocol

3 was really good

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (KRtlO)

289 Been listening to CJN Speaks, normally can listen to podcasts and do other things on phone at same time. It's not having that today, never has done this before

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (fwDg9)

290 ace I meant maverick as in Tom Cruise doing pilot shit

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (/7KEl)

291 I try not to order anything from Amazon because f*ck Jeff Bezos and his skanky Muppet-looking girlfriend. I only keep Prime because my credit card reimburses the fee every year.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (DRSnL)

292 285 I never felt that was Hitchcock's view of psychiatry. But it was DEFINITELY Selznick's view. Psychiatry as something half magical and half logical science is the nonsense Selznick peddled in "Spellbound" because he was having a manic episode after some good sessions with a therapist following one of his breakdowns. Hitch directed the story he was told to.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (VxbvY)

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Oh, Hitchcock definitely loved that stuff, too. It's all over his biography.

It's probably the only thing he and Selznick agreed on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (GBKbO)

293 >>I want to see it. I really liked James Garner in The Great Escape (which I'd never seen before


Really? That's literally the greatest cast ever assembled for a film.

Everyone is in that Movie and it is actually a really enjoyable watch.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (6d8kz)

294 >>>I own them all.
Except 2.

me too.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (KRtlO)

295 >>> 291 I try not to order anything from Amazon because f*ck Jeff Bezos and his skanky Muppet-looking girlfriend. I only keep Prime because my credit card reimburses the fee every year.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (DRSnL)

So you're saying you don't like that guy?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2024 05:15 PM (llON8)

296 >>
Really? That's literally the greatest cast ever assembled for a film.

yes, just saw it last month. It's on Amazon (or was).

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:15 PM (KRtlO)

297 >>Robert Bloch sure hated women.


Unlike Russ Meyer.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:15 PM (6d8kz)

298 I think I would pay to see Bullettrain in a theater again.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:15 PM (krQz2)

299 So it's a fucking prequel? What the fuck?
Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2024 04:58 PM (Hucnr)


The best comment about a prequel: "It is meaningless because it changes nothing"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2024 05:15 PM (D7oie)

300 >>>290 ace I meant maverick as in Tom Cruise doing pilot shit

oh yeah that makes sense. I wondered "Wait there was a Maverick 2??!"

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

301 294 >>>I own them all.
Except 2.

me too.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (KRtlO)

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I take it back. I forgot I haven't bought III yet. I like III fine, but I've just never picked it up.

The MI movies are those kinds of films that Dolley and I can easily watch together. There aren't too many like that.

The Kingsman movies are another little series we can do that with.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:16 PM (GBKbO)

302 It's probably the only thing he and Selznick agreed on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:14 PM (GBKbO)
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Not banging starlets?

Or apart from banging starlets?

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:16 PM (krQz2)

303 @270 word around the campfire is, there's a 3rd Maverick movie being knocked around

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Yes, word has been circulating about this. But the protagonist won't be Maverick (the second movie was pretty emphatic that no matter what happened, the mission in that movie was his last time up in thexair as a naval aviator). It'll be either about Rooster (Goose's son) or Hangman (Glen Powell's character).

Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 05:16 PM (TRmu9)

304 Catch-22 is another film with an insane cast. So many great actors in that one, too.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:16 PM (6d8kz)

305 Notorious is mind-blowingly good.

i'll look for that one, I don't think Amazon has it.
Posted by: ace

imdb says Tubi has it

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (Ka3bZ)

306 302 Not banging starlets?

Or apart from banging starlets?
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:16 PM (krQz2)

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Hitch was too fat to bang starlets. He just wanted to control them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (GBKbO)

307 Hey, the James Madison, have you ever thought about reviewing movies such as career girls And the great Secrets and Lies? There is this time in place with British films in the 90s that rang a cord with me and there were some really unusual movies. Maybe the Brits are still doing this, but I haven’t heard of it, I know the Americans aren’t making great independent films anymore

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (ZSOPI)

308 i loved the kingsman prequel. There's a great scene where the villain is having a Blofeld like meeting with the heads of the Spectre divisions, and it's all people like Lenin, Mata Hari, etc.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

309 Thanks vmom!

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

310 With very few changes Alien 3 could just be a sequel to the first movie.

I don’t think they knew what to do with Aliens.

Posted by: Allen at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (mIRts)

311 307 Hey, the James Madison, have you ever thought about reviewing movies such as career girls And the great Secrets and Lies? There is this time in place with British films in the 90s that rang a cord with me and there were some really unusual movies. Maybe the Brits are still doing this, but I haven’t heard of it, I know the Americans aren’t making great independent films anymore
Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (ZSOPI)

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I need to see Secrets and Lies. Mike Leigh interests me, but I've never gotten too into his work. I do love Topsy-Turvy, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (GBKbO)

312 I want to see it. I really liked James Garner in The Great Escape (which I'd never seen before
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Garner brings character just showing up in a movie.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (krQz2)

313 Unlike Russ Meyer.
Posted by: garrett

Russ Meyer actually got a cameo shot at a Rose Bowl game many years ago, because he was in the grandstands with some incredible looking woman, and I remember that and it must have been 40 years ago, at least.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (vcOmj)

314 I just got here so don;t know if this got posted yet.
Side by side comparison of Biden's speech today with the one Reagan gave in the exact same spot. it is astounding.

https://tinyurl.com/2s3e3zmb

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (t/2Uw)

315 >> There's a great scene where the villain is having a Blofeld like meeting with the heads of the Spectre divisions, and it's all people like Lenin, Mata Hari, etc.


They stole that from the Naked Gun 2 1/2

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (6d8kz)

316 New Alien movie just looks like a slasher movie with college kids getting killed. Doesn't really look like space truckers.

Posted by: brak at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (AR07F)

317 308 i loved the kingsman prequel. There's a great scene where the villain is having a Blofeld like meeting with the heads of the Spectre divisions, and it's all people like Lenin, Mata Hari, etc.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

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I loved it, too.

I do hope Vaughn gets to make one more, but his star seems to be fading, especially after the failure of Argylle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (GBKbO)

318 One of my favorite Hitchcock films was The Lady Vanishes.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (nvKZ7)

319 97 Maybe I'll watch Casablanca this weekend.

Yes, I'm old and long for the days of self-sacrifice, good versus evil, men loving women, and dialog made for adults.

Yeeeesh, I am old.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2024 04:42 PM (JeYYB)

_________________________________

Fun fact. Hollywood actually considered remaking that movie, but eventually decided against it due to the cult following. The main motivator on a remake was Madonna, and she wanted Ashton Kutcher to play Bogart's part. I'd have gone to see that just to throw darts at the screen.

Posted by: Orson at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (dIske)

320 >>> Catch-22 is another film with an insane cast. So many great actors in that one, too.


I tried to watch it and gave up. I'm a huge, huge fan of the book, and the movie just didn't click with me.

If you haven't read the book, it's really worth it. The only warning is this: He has a strange sense of humor, and the book is also written all out-of-order. For about 60-100 pages you might be a little put off by the non-chronological telling, but once you have the general timeline straight, it all gets really good.

Super funny book, laugh-out-loud jokes every three or four pages.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (KRtlO)

321 Russ Meyer actually got a cameo shot at a Rose Bowl game many years ago, because he was in the grandstands with some incredible looking woman, and I remember that and it must have been 40 years ago, at least.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 07, 2024 05:18 PM (vcOmj)
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I'm guessing bustier than Mannix's version of "busty".

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:20 PM (krQz2)

322 So glad Jack Nicholson isn't trying to make movies (or in his case, classics) unlike some other dedicated greed heads I could mention.

No, Jack made great, age appropriate films that demanded exploring new chops right up to retirement: As Good As It Gets and Being Schmidt.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 07, 2024 05:20 PM (wBaIH)

323
Speaking of Vince Vaughn...

Brawl In Cell Block 99 is good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:20 PM (PHraW)

324 320 Super funny book, laugh-out-loud jokes every three or four pages.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (KRtlO)

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"Ah...so you can finish a book..."
-The Hound of the Baskervilles

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:20 PM (GBKbO)

325  A mid budget failure from 2009 looks a shit ton better than most project made today.
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Starship Troopers is still a better movie than Atlas.

And I should mention, they have the audacity in Atlas to have the ending all but demand a sequel.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 07, 2024 05:20 PM (g9W3m)

326 >>>318 One of my favorite Hitchcock films was The Lady Vanishes.

Funny, I want to watch that, and tried watching three (3!!!) different versions of it. They just did a new one a few years ago.

I stopped watching all three. I just got bored.

But I do want to watch ONE of them. I like the premise.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:20 PM (KRtlO)

327 >>>They stole that from the Naked Gun 2 1/2

oh yeah

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (KRtlO)

328
Also recommend: In Bruges


*Bruges, brooj, is a place in Belgium, or somewhere in fag europe

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (PHraW)

329 3rd Aliens wasn't that good, another after that was unwatchable

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (fwDg9)

330 @284 John Woo is a hack.

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The Appleseed movie that Woo made has a plot in which the world government announces a plan to take control of all of the spy satellites owned by the various countries in order to help maintain world peace.

Uh...?

(the world government was not the bad guy)

Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (TRmu9)

331 I want to see it. I really liked James Garner in The Great Escape (which I'd never seen before
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Garner brings character just showing up in a movie.
Posted by: Axeman

Garner made some really good movies.
"Cash McCall"
"Grand Prix"
"The Americanization of Emily"

Did you ever see the very short lived TV Series called "Nichols" where he (Garner) plays this really funny sheriff in the small town of Nichols, Arizona? And his name was "Nichols". Played very much against the typical sheriff type.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (vcOmj)

332 I saw the thought somewhere recently that Three Amigos is Galaxy Quest as a western. Or Galaxy Quest is Three Amigos in space.
Posted by: Open Channel D at June 07, 2024 05:02 PM (7CkHf)

See also A Bug's Life, The Magnificent Seven, and Seven Samurai.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (6gW4D)

333 300, I still havent watched though I Hear it is really good. Everyone seems to have loved it and that is a good sign for sure.

But I don’t think you can re-create top gun because the movie was made in the particular time and place and had a specific meaning. I’m not quite sure kids that grew up thinking Gaza should be free arecexactly the same as the kids that grew up in the Cold War.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (ZSOPI)

334 >>>"Ah...so you can finish a book..."
-The Hound of the Baskervilles

yeah I've read catch-22 like ten times. And I've flipped through it to read my favorite parts more than that.

seriously, some absolutely killer jokes.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (KRtlO)

335 330 The Appleseed movie that Woo made has a plot in which the world government announces a plan to take control of all of the spy satellites owned by the various countries in order to help maintain world peace.

Uh...?

(the world government was not the bad guy)
Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (TRmu9)

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I shall append:

John Woo is a loyalist Chinese filmmaker who wants his communist dictatorship to rule the world hack.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (GBKbO)

336 Also recommend: In Bruges

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (PHraW)

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Awesome movie.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (DRSnL)

337 328, great movie

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:23 PM (ZSOPI)

338 Garner rocks in Support Your Local Gunfighter / Sheriff.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:23 PM (6gW4D)

339 I watched the first half of Godzilla Minus One and was unimpressed. Watched the second half a couple of days later and liked where it went. But I actually like the newer Godzilla movies more. But then I watch Transformer movies.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 05:23 PM (t/2Uw)

340 >>I tried to watch it and gave up. I'm a huge, huge fan of the book, and the movie just didn't click with me.


Oh yeah...the Book is so much better than the Movie it isn't even funny.

But I thought they did about as well as you could do with it without breaking the form of a Hollywood Production. To do it right, it would have had to have been 2x as long, imo.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:23 PM (6d8kz)

341
Awesome movie.
Posted by: Jordan61


Colin Farrell's stock went way up in my book after watching it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:24 PM (PHraW)

342 Also recommend: In Bruges

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (PHraW)
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The single movie that turned me into a fan of Farrell.

Fiennes, Gleason, and Farrell are top-notch in that movie, but Farrell still is the standout (probably because he's the main character).

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:24 PM (krQz2)

343 The Horn Blows at Midnite with Jack Benny.

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2024 05:24 PM (T4tVD)

344 I never saw Kingsman sequels. I thought the first one was boring, and the anal sex joke was clumsy and oafish to the point of being irritating.

Posted by: It was like Le Femme Nikita, but male and stupider at June 07, 2024 05:24 PM (+RNLW)

345 >318 One of my favorite Hitchcock films was The Lady Vanishes.

Funny, I want to watch that, and tried watching three (3!!!) different versions of it. They just did a new one a few years ago.
I stopped watching all three. I just got bored.
But I do want to watch ONE of them. I like the premise. ace


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I like Margaret Lockwood in it. She was also in another thriller called Night Train to Munich which was directed by Carol Reed.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 07, 2024 05:24 PM (nvKZ7)

346 Colin Farrell's stock went way up in my book after watching it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:24 PM (PHraW)
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Yeah, I don't know if I would have rushed to see Seven Psychopaths if I had not seen In Bruges.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2)

347 >>> Catch-22 . . . If you haven't read the book, it's really worth it. The only warning is this: He has a strange sense of humor, and the book is also written all out-of-order. For about 60-100 pages you might be a little put off by the non-chronological telling, but once you have the general timeline straight, it all gets really good.

Super funny book, laugh-out-loud jokes every three or four pages.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (KRtlO)

First book I ever read where I laughed out loud several times, even to the point of having to put the book down until I stopped. I can't remember another book with that effect, and damn few movies.

Posted by: Kreskin at June 07, 2024 05:25 PM (ecbNb)

348 >>> 335 330 The Appleseed movie that Woo made has a plot in which the world government announces a plan to take control of all of the spy satellites owned by the various countries in order to help maintain world peace.

Uh...?

(the world government was not the bad guy)
Posted by: junior at June 07, 2024 05:21 PM (TRmu9)

========

I shall append:

John Woo is a loyalist Chinese filmmaker who wants his communist dictatorship to rule the world hack.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:22 PM (GBKbO)

Hey, I liked Red Cliff. Also, I thought it was funny that he apparently *had* to have a grrl-boss character.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2024 05:25 PM (llON8)

349 I'm a M:I fan, but only starting with Ghost Protocol
Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

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I own them all.

Except 2.

Fuck 2. John Woo is a hack.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:13 PM (GBKbO)
———-
[coughs]
[vomits]
[gives middle finger]
[scratches TJM off list of reputable movie critics]

Dude, you must be high! Woo is one of the most highly influential directors of the last 40 years. Whether you like the style or not, every modern action film is a homage to him.

Yes, Wild Bunch did it earlier, but Woo took it to the next level and basically revolutionized action films.

That’s like take. If you disagree, you are a poopyhead!!

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (bwQbf)

350
Yeah, I don't know if I would have rushed to see Seven Psychopaths if I had not seen In Bruges.
Posted by: Axeman


Do you recommend Seven Psychopaths?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (PHraW)

351 Why would there be a renaissance in movie going? We've had mass shooting incidents at theaters. Folks are out of the habit of going to the theater.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (xjTDL)

352 In Bruges is a great movie. I actually got to go to Bruges the last time I was in Europe. You can actually go up to the top of the tower if yhou don;t mind waiting in line for hours. (I didn't). it is lovely city though.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (t/2Uw)

353 The only actor who could’ve played Rick Blaine in a Casablanca remake, at least in the 80s or 90s?

Harrison Ford.

Ilsa? Probably Nichole Kidman, who would rock the 40s hair.

Louis Renault? Prob. Gary Oldman.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (v6JzV)

354 Yeah, I don't know if I would have rushed to see Seven Psychopaths if I had not seen In Bruges.
Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2)

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I really liked Seven Psychopaths, too.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (DRSnL)

355 James Gardner is a favorite of mine

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (fwDg9)

356 349 Dude, you must be high! Woo is one of the most highly influential directors of the last 40 years. Whether you like the style or not, every modern action film is a homage to him.

Yes, Wild Bunch did it earlier, but Woo took it to the next level and basically revolutionized action films.

That’s like take. If you disagree, you are a poopyhead!!
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (bwQbf)

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Influential doesn't mean good. Yeah, he's definitely influential.

I just find his whole shtick to be...terrible. He can film people diving in slow motion, but he can't do much else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:27 PM (GBKbO)

357 i could definitely do a book thread on Catch-22.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:27 PM (KRtlO)

358 >>First book I ever read where I laughed out loud several times, even to the point of having to put the book down until I stopped. I can't remember another book with that effect, and damn few movies.


Douglas Adams books were the same way for me.

Also, Woody Allen's first 2 Books had moments like that. His parody of 'My Apology' in particular.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:27 PM (6d8kz)

359 I've seen In Bruge maybe 30 times now. Love that one. Virtually, the whole film is quotable. (My wife turned and stared at me when Fiennes smashed the phone and called her a fucking inanimate object. I wish that movie was slightly less relatable.)

Posted by: Temper, Temper at June 07, 2024 05:27 PM (+RNLW)

360 Do you recommend Seven Psychopaths?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (PHraW)
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I do. One of my favorite movies that year.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:27 PM (krQz2)

361
I might even rewatch Master & Commander.

The nice thing about getting old & senile is I have forgotten most of the movies I had watched.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:28 PM (PHraW)

362 Slightly OT
In what the world is billing as one of the greatest sports upsets in history, the US Cricket team has beaten Pakistan to advance in the World qualifies.
So...one good thing from the open border.
Maybe they'll make a movie about it?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 05:28 PM (W/lyH)

363 Looks like there might be some breaking news re. Trump NY Trial Verdict.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:28 PM (6d8kz)

364 I haven't read the whole thread but my favorite movie is The Commitments.

If that comment is irrelevant to the thread

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 07, 2024 05:28 PM (JLq/1)

365 >>>Dude, you must be high! Woo is one of the most highly influential directors of the last 40 years. Whether you like the style or not, every modern action film is a homage to him.

yeah Woo's hong kong stuff is good. but super-random. Like they just have random ideas that don't really connect with the plot or theme but they thought it would look good.

the action stuff is good and started that whole Bullet Fu genre.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (KRtlO)

366 Then there is Necessary Roughness, Major League, Slap Shot, The Replacements, ...

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (6gW4D)

367 AceofSpadesHQ: Book Club 2 - Eclectic Boogaloo

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (6d8kz)

368 Margaret Lockwood was also in a very good film called -Cast a Dark Shadow with (I think) Dirk Bogarde. She did it when she was older and the British didn't want to see her as an older woman. Was kind of slow also.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (nvKZ7)

369 For me, the big problem with going to a theater to see a movie is, the other people there


people used to know how to behave in public, how to not be assholes

that's gone

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (/7KEl)

370 I haven't read the whole thread but my favorite movie is The Commitments.

If that comment is irrelevant to the thread
Posted by: Northernlurker at June 07, 2024 05:28 PM (JLq/1)
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Ah'm black and Ah'm prood!

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (krQz2)

371 >>> 366 Then there is Necessary Roughness, Major League, Slap Shot, The Replacements, ...
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (6gW4D)

I'm listening to the fcking song!

Posted by: Hanson bro at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (llON8)

372 338, A great actor for sure you’ll find many that think the Rockford files is basically the best TV show ever. The guy was multi talented. But in my opinion support, your local sheriff was so much better than the sequel that it’s really absurd. The sequel was just that one more example of people trying to make money off of something that happened prior.

I think support your local sheriff is one of the 20 or 30 best movies of the last hundred years it is perfect with the comedy drama and the fact that the audience is in on everything. The people in charge of Holly weird today could never make a movie like that, even though they showed them the script as you say

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:29 PM (ZSOPI)

373 That’s like take. If you disagree, you are a poopyhead!!
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:26 PM (bwQbf)

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Influential doesn't mean good. Yeah, he's definitely influential.

I just find his whole shtick to be...terrible. He can film people diving in slow motion, but he can't do much else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Watch his earlier HK movies with CYF. Every action director since then has ripped him off mercilessly. And not just with diving slo mo shots. His HK movies were more complex and masterfully shot. On comparatively shoestring budgets.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (bwQbf)

374 >>Then there is Necessary Roughness, Major League, Slap Shot, The Replacements, ...


Youngblood and Bloodsport need an Honorable Mention

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (6d8kz)

375 > Looks like there might be some breaking news re. Trump NY Trial Verdict.

Posted by: garrett



don't tease
what

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (/7KEl)

376
The best thing about In Bruge for me is that I had no idea what it was about and I didn't expect to even keep watching after a while.

I didn't even understand the title.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (PHraW)

377 Directors who use pigeons as their visual signature are hacks.

As of now, that list has only two people (Woo and John Glen), but it tracks so far.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:31 PM (VxbvY)

378 I can watch Dune 2 for $3.75. Is it worth 2 1/2 hours of my life?

And yes, the Prime ads are obnoxious and there are way more of them than on FreeVee. They also seem to get more frequent as you reach the end of what you are watching which makes it even worse. And if you;re bored, you can;t fast forward.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 05:31 PM (t/2Uw)

379 The best thing about In Bruge for me is that I had no idea what it was about and I didn't expect to even keep watching after a while.

I didn't even understand the title.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (PHraW)
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Think I can say ditto to all that.

I kinda thought it would be more of a spy thriller.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:31 PM (krQz2)

380 >>don't tease
what


I'm not the Blogger, here. Man.

Apparently something to do with potential Juror Miconduct, maybe?

It's just starting to get out there, apparently.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2024 05:31 PM (6d8kz)

381 "Judge Merchan issued a letter to all parties today stating:

Today, the Court became aware of a comment that was posted on the Unified Court System’s public Facebook page and which I now bring to your attention. In the comment, the user, “Michael Anderson,” states:

‘My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted. Thank you folks for all your hard work!!!!" From GWP

Posted by: whig at June 07, 2024 05:31 PM (WwRol)

382 Garfield is the summer movie to see if you have to bring your kids to something.

If you don't, Garfield is probably still the movie to see.

Skip all Disney theatrical movies til they apologize and reform...(this does mean Alien movies on top of Deadpool and Inside Out 2)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 07, 2024 05:32 PM (exHjb)

383 373 Watch his earlier HK movies with CYF. Every action director since then has ripped him off mercilessly. And not just with diving slo mo shots. His HK movies were more complex and masterfully shot. On comparatively shoestring budgets.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (bwQbf)

=========

I've been planning on doing a Woo run at some point, despite my disdain. He's just, you know, still alive and making movies. I resist that because revisiting old lists when a new movie comes out is a pain.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:32 PM (GBKbO)

384 @375 juror misconduct.

Posted by: Allen at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (mIRts)

385
Oh!

And I just watched the 2000 tv miniseries DUNE.
First time watching any Dune.

Good show.

Children of Dune, on the other hand....meh.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (PHraW)

386 Today, the Court became aware of a comment that was posted on the Unified Court System’s public Facebook page and which I now bring to your attention.

The comment, left on May 29, one day prior to Trump’s conviction, reads: “My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted 🎉 Thank you folks for all your hard work!!!! ❤️”

Posted by: SMOD at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (RHGPo)

387 I don't know how many times people will pay to see the same basic story.
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Aliens never disappoint.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (RIvkX)

Friday the 13th parts 1 to 10000 say that the number could be large.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (eoQWY)

388 Well, you can certainly say, "Dee, you bitch" It's your blog.
But I didn't know anything about the series until I read about it online. I gather it is- or- was a pretty popular show.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (XkYcA)

389 387 Friday the 13th parts 1 to 10000 say that the number could be large.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (eoQWY)

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Part VI is genuinely good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (GBKbO)

390 @375 juror misconduct.
Posted by: Allen at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (mIRts)
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Huh? They weren't sequestered. Wonder how that happened.

Posted by: Axeman at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (krQz2)

391 i don't know about that but Support Your Local Gunfighter is on one of the channels (Amzon, Tubi, or Pluto)

I want to see it.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

Save yourself the time and disappointment, Ace. Don't bother. It's not very good.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (0eaVi)

392 320 >>> Catch-22 is another film with an insane cast. So many great actors in that one, too.


I tried to watch it and gave up. I'm a huge, huge fan of the book, and the movie just didn't click with me.

If you haven't read the book, it's really worth it. The only warning is this: He has a strange sense of humor, and the book is also written all out-of-order. For about 60-100 pages you might be a little put off by the non-chronological telling, but once you have the general timeline straight, it all gets really good.

Super funny book, laugh-out-loud jokes every three or four pages.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (KRtlO)

So, when I quit on page 72 b/c the whole dang thing was unreadable, I should have just skipped ahead to page 101 and continued...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (exHjb)

393
Also recommend: SISU

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (PHraW)

394 Nood rigging

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (rsqyi)

395 See Legalinsurrection.com
https://legalinsurrection.com/merchan alerts da-trumps lawyers of facebook-user-claiming he knew jury would-convict trump

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2024 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

396 >>> 384 @375 juror misconduct.
Posted by: Allen at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (mIRts)

Obviously bribed by OrangeManBad. This will be included in sentencing.

Posted by: Judge Merchan, I am da law at June 07, 2024 05:35 PM (llON8)

397 >>> Funny, I want to watch that, and tried watching three (3!!!) different versions of it. They just did a new one a few years ago.
I stopped watching all three. I just got bored.
But I do want to watch ONE of them. I like the premise. ace

I love the original. The modern plane retelling with Jodie Foster was ok. But I kept wanting Miss Froy to pop up, and the barmy duo who only care about cricket. The funny bits make the darker parts have more bite.

Original is also unabashedly patriotic, and dismissive of neutralism or opportunism in the face of evil. The line about not judging people based on their government is one of my fave political lines in all cinema:

"I never think you should judge any country by its politics. After all, we English are quite honest by nature, aren't we?"

Posted by: LizLem at June 07, 2024 05:35 PM (QAK8m)

398 I don't know how many times people will pay to see the same basic story.
====

Aliens never disappoint.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 07, 2024 04:30 PM (RIvkX)

Friday the 13th parts 1 to 10000 say that the number could be large.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:33 PM (eoQWY)

Rocky I - VIIish

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:35 PM (6gW4D)

399 Watch his earlier HK movies with CYF. Every action director since then has ripped him off mercilessly. And not just with diving slo mo shots. His HK movies were more complex and masterfully shot. On comparatively shoestring budgets.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:30 PM (bwQbf)

=========

I've been planning on doing a Woo run at some point, despite my disdain. He's just, you know, still alive and making movies. I resist that because revisiting old lists when a new movie comes out is a pain.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:32 PM (GBKbO)
———-

I have a response but I have to go and get ready for a hot date. I’ll respond on. Monday. Have a good weekend, all!

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 07, 2024 05:36 PM (bwQbf)

400 Part VI is genuinely good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM

The horror genre can always benefit from an auteur now and again. Tom McLaughlin spoiled them rotten. In return they gave him... Don Behrns. Oh well.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:36 PM (VxbvY)

401 I recall some friends that were friends’s kids and they talked about how much they love Dune and that was like 1979. I still haven’t watched any movie film or product called Dune and I still have no idea what it’s about though. I think it’s about some weird where everything is brown. I remember hearing that the first Dune was bust and did not do well but I think that may have been in the late 70s or early 80s. What they have done since then eludes me because what they did before eluded me.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:36 PM (ZSOPI)

402 lightly OT
In what the world is billing as one of the greatest sports upsets in history, the US Cricket team has beaten Pakistan to advance in the World qualifies.
So...one good thing from the open border.
Maybe they'll make a movie about it?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 07, 2024 05:28 PM (W/lyH)

While sending in Apache gunships was a tad over the line, you have to admit it made the game more interesting.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:36 PM (eoQWY)

403 Save yourself the time and disappointment, Ace. Don't bother. It's not very good.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2024 05:34 PM (0eaVi)

I do not understand these words in this particular order.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:37 PM (6gW4D)

404 It's happened again:

Bailey Anne Kennedy is first trans Miss Maryland USA

https://tinyurl.com/5c9ad88d

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:37 PM (/7KEl)

405 >>> 387 I don't know how many times people will pay to see the same basic story.

Oh, you sweet summer child...

Posted by: Hallmark channel Christmas movies, and every romance novelist says what at June 07, 2024 05:37 PM (QAK8m)

406 and he/she is married to a Marine

Posted by: Don Black at June 07, 2024 05:38 PM (/7KEl)

407
What about Heaven's Gate?

I have it, but not sure I'd enjoy it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:38 PM (PHraW)

408 I recall some friends that were friends’s kids and they talked about how much they love Dune and that was like 1979. I still haven’t watched any movie film or product called Dune and I still have no idea what it’s about though. I think it’s about some weird where everything is brown. I remember hearing that the first Dune was bust and did not do well but I think that may have been in the late 70s or early 80s. What they have done since then eludes me because what they did before eluded me.
Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:36 PM (ZSOPI)

Dune was the only book in a big box of SF stories sent by my grandpa I didn't finish and read over and over. All I can remember is the boy sticking his hand in a box and it hurt and his mom being worried about it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:39 PM (eoQWY)

409 Quint at 372, absolutely correct. Local Sheriff is damn near perfect, and worth an annual re-watch at a minimum. Local Gunfighter is such a disappointment even with Suzanne Pleshette. Its tone was so much different and not in a good way.

In fact, I'd argue the following on the miss of tone: Gunfighter is to Sheriff as The Wild Wild West Revisited is to The Wild Wild West.

Which is weird and maybe explained since Burt Kennedy directed both Sheriff and Gunfighter, and a few years last also WWW Revisited.

Posted by: Kreskin at June 07, 2024 05:39 PM (ecbNb)

410 402, not being a dick here, but let’s be honest. The reality is we get 10 times as many great cricket players here moving here as transients Then any other country.

99% of Americans couldn’t tell you one thing about cricket. Sure, we are beating other countries, but that’s because the most enterprising people from their nation came here.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:39 PM (ZSOPI)

411 >>>I can watch Dune 2 for $3.75. Is it worth 2 1/2 hours of my life?

I would say yes, the visual design is very good, but it's slow, and the chosen one storyline is played out. you might want to plan on watching it in two viewings.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:39 PM (KRtlO)

412 What about Heaven's Gate?

I have it, but not sure I'd enjoy it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 07, 2024 05:38 PM

Do you like Cimino at his most self-indulgent? Is The Deer Hunter or The Sicilian among your favorite films? If so, you may enjoy Heaven's Gate.

Otherwise, sell that fucker still sealed.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 07, 2024 05:40 PM (VxbvY)

413 I do not understand these words in this particular order.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 07, 2024 05:37 PM (6gW4D)

He made it to finish his contract. Rehash of Sheriff from a different angle. The only good part was his relationship with Jack Elam, and the self shooting of Chuck Conners. Anyway, thread's done, so nobody cares what I think now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 07, 2024 05:41 PM (0eaVi)

414 409, sequels are hard and usually bad. The original was a masterpiece. Every time I watch that film, it makes me smile and I know that’s true for millions of others.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:41 PM (ZSOPI)

415 I like Murphy's Romance. One of my favorite movies

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 07, 2024 05:41 PM (xjTDL)

416 If you haven't read the book, it's really worth it. The only warning is this: He has a strange sense of humor, and the book is also written all out-of-order. For about 60-100 pages you might be a little put off by the non-chronological telling, but once you have the general timeline straight, it all gets really good.

Super funny book, laugh-out-loud jokes every three or four pages.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:19 PM (KRtlO)

If you expect your book characters to be real people you will be constantly thrown off. Thinking of these crazy things happening in a real world is the joke. Like Milo funding both sides in the war for business and hiring out bomb missions to the Germans. Or Major Major Major Major.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:43 PM (eoQWY)

417 Thanks Ace. Good advice.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 07, 2024 05:43 PM (t/2Uw)

418 >>>So, when I quit on page 72 b/c the whole dang thing was unreadable, I should have just skipped ahead to page 101 and continued...

it is tough going at first because you're a bit lost in all the changing timelines.

This may help: Throughout Yossarian's career in the Army Air Force, he keeps getting close to the number of missions required before he can take a non-combat job. It starts at like 30, but they keep hiking it up so that he can never actually stop risking his life.

You can tell where an anecdote is in the timeline by how many missions Yossarian is complaining he has to complete. 30 -- early. 40-50 -- middle. More than 50 -- getting towards the end of the narrative. (I won't say how high it gets.)

It's really worth it so I would recommend just pushing through the parts where you're confused and out to see and trust that it's all going to come together at about page 100.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:43 PM (KRtlO)

419 402, not being a dick here, but let’s be honest. The reality is we get 10 times as many great cricket players here moving here as transients Then any other country.

99% of Americans couldn’t tell you one thing about cricket. Sure, we are beating other countries, but that’s because the most enterprising people from their nation came here.
Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:39 PM (ZSOPI)

Its weird baseball. Back in the day baseball teams would barnstorm around in Europe and kick the butts of all the cricket teams. Of course then they were used to playing with small or no gloves.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:45 PM (eoQWY)

420 I'd also say that you're not supposed to really "get it" at first, the nonchronological telling is deliberately confusing and disorienting, so if you're disoriented, you're reading the book right. You haven't missed anything, that's the effect he's going for.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:45 PM (KRtlO)

421 in fact there are close readers who say that Heller got confused in his own timeline and is inconsistent about exactly when some things happened. Some analysts made up a theory that this was intentional, and Heller said, "Nah, I just made a mistake."

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:47 PM (KRtlO)

422 FWIW...POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT!!!
Dune Two:



Dune 2 price dropped to $5.95 on amazon...rented it. Liked it a lot, though just having read the 1st 4 books the films have differed from the original, 2 more than one.(leaving out Paul and Chani having a son, that is then killed by the Harkonens/Emperor is...a pretty big deal, as is the difference between the Paul/Princess betrothal events in the book from those in the film)
2 ends well short of where I thought it would, meaning 3 will have to make a BIG movie from a small part of the book(or maybe it will extend into "Children of Dune"???)

Posted by: birdog at June 07, 2024 05:50 PM (+Fkyb)

423 btw once you've read it all of the different pieces of the story fall into place more or less. It's only on first reading that this is disorienting.

The general plot is dead simple: Yossarian starts out brave, then sees a death from close up, then becomes a terrible coward determined to preserve his life at any cost. Meanwhile, the Army Air Force just keeps jacking up the number of bombing runs he has to go on until he can take a desk job.

The book starts out when he's already become a coward. You don't see the event that triggered his horrible fear of death until near the end.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:52 PM (KRtlO)

424 Our town just said goodbye to its only movie theater, which -- up until a couple years ago -- was a $4 mom-n-pop shop, showing movies on the cheap, long after their original release. The model worked fine for decades, but then COVID ruined their volume business. It got bought out by new management, started showing new movies with the accompanying high prices, and lo and behold... no one wants to pay $16 to see some (ought to be) direct-to-DVD crap like "Knuckles" or Fast and Furious XXVIII.

So they're closed now. Hollywood is bereft of ideas and completely out of step with normal people. Good riddance.

Posted by: red speck at June 07, 2024 05:54 PM (0Id0S)

425 419, I am happy we won at cricket. I am glad we beat Pakistan. That is something to be applaud.

I recall a line in the not well known TV series rules of engagement, When the South African born, Indian person said about cricket that every country other than America plays it.

Walk, I’m Glad, We won, but is winning a major international cricket match in American thing? It’s not for me to answer because you know what I think about it. I recall when NFL football games meant everything to men and women, young and old and that alone doesn’t exist today. Will cricket and soccer supplant those things? My guess is yes.

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:54 PM (ZSOPI)

426 I want to see it. I really liked James Garner in The Great Escape (which I'd never seen before -- really good! Like mission impossible but at a POW camp)
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

If you liked that you should read about Colditz Prison Camp, there's a couple books about life there written by the escape director in the early years. It was in a castle and there were more guards than prisoners. Since it was on a rock crag you had to dig way down just to get to ground level.

One plan they were working on was building a glider in the attic. It was nearly done by the end of the war. The guards were gobsmacked after they surrendered - - which the prisoners helped with because both sides were wondering if a kill order was coming.

The author was very critical of the G. E. saying that it was so crazy it demanded the Germans go wild stopping it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 05:58 PM (eoQWY)

427 Remember eons ago, when Tom Cruise resurrected a patriotic, traditional male/female story of sacrifice and heroism and legacy in Maverick? And all the usual suspects trashed it -- and the rubes who'd see such garbage -- as soon as the trailers dropped? And then the frigging thing went on to get extended month after month for almost a year because people couldn't get enough?

So what was their response to this winning formula?

Gayest Star Wars ever. Evermore prurient or evil rehashes of the same themes the always do. Church bad/antihero good.

Screw em. Let em collapse on themselves.

Posted by: red speck at June 07, 2024 05:58 PM (0Id0S)

428 I think as a population We have become about absurd. You look at the French and the Italians and the one thing about them is they never bash their own history as a group I’m not talking about one or two people but as a group and a nation, they never bast their own history.

What we have created is millions of young people who know nothing of history and what they do know is wrong to paraphrase Reagan. You never see the Italians talking about tearing down monuments how did we become this way?

Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:59 PM (ZSOPI)

429 Walk, I’m Glad, We won, but is winning a major international cricket match in American thing? It’s not for me to answer because you know what I think about it. I recall when NFL football games meant everything to men and women, young and old and that alone doesn’t exist today. Will cricket and soccer supplant those things? My guess is yes.
Posted by: Quint at June 07, 2024 05:54 PM (ZSOPI)

The only international sport I would like to see us get is Aussie Rules Football. Think of a cross between basketball and Football field goals on a huge field (a cricket pitch)

Posted by: Oldcat at June 07, 2024 06:00 PM (eoQWY)

430 >>>If you liked that you should read about Colditz Prison Camp, there's a couple books about life there written by the escape director in the early years. It was in a castle and there were more guards than prisoners. Since it was on a rock crag you had to dig way down just to get to ground level.

sounds interesting, thanks.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2024 06:02 PM (KRtlO)

431 We liked Dune 1 and 2. But, I didn't like homely Zendaya as Chani. Or a black woman playing Kynes. And Paul's mother was weakly played also.

Posted by: SamIam at June 07, 2024 06:24 PM (oasF3)

432 At quick glance, it looks like the lawfare leftists have created an emergency exit.

Wich is a win win because now they can give their buddies in the streets "room to destroy" and otherwise keep that rage flame going.

Trouble is, the very retard in the WH that started this whole thing is fucking up so bad, that they not only have to deal with replacing his crooked ass, but also cross the victim DEI hire Rubicon and shove Kamala off the ticket too.

Biden and his Twitter regime will hopefully send another Reagan era our way.

Of course, leftists cheating with mail in fraud, abandoned cars found with ballot boxes in them, or the occasional USB flash drive of extra votes... Notwithstanding

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at June 07, 2024 06:25 PM (XLfSN)

433 Earlier in the week I got a Youtube ad that was the trailer for that 'Trapped' movie. I watched most of the trailer, then rage-quit when they revealed the 'protagonist' as some demented killer. I've got no patience vile or evil 'protagonists.' And if the twist is that he has some reason for having a guy tied up in his basement....I don't care, I've got better things to do than wait for a second subversion-of-expectations to undo the first subversion...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 07, 2024 07:42 PM (Lhaco)

434 "Shots fired"? My dude, I can think of few other opinions less controversial than "Prometheus looked promising but it turned out to suck."

Posted by: Garth Vader at June 07, 2024 09:29 PM (UgC6c)

435 Personally, I think it'd be funnier to quote the old SNL line, "Jane, you ignorant slut".

Posted by: Jamie Walker at June 07, 2024 11:32 PM (/t1JJ)

436 Daniel Thrasher's commercials are more entertaining than anything Hollywood Inc. has put out in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Persnickety at June 07, 2024 11:51 PM (6fdSm)

437 How about making movies where no one dies, nothing explodes or catches fire, has a plot you can follow, is genuinely entertaining etc. Maybe try educational documentary stuff in view of K12 institutional failage.

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