Four-Hour Long Viral Video Exposes the Colossal, Cheap-Out Failure of Disney's $3,000+ Per Night Star Wars Hotel

One of Bob Iger's biggest failures -- the list is crowded -- is getting fresh attention thanks to a four hour long deep dive viral video.

Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.

The video by snarky nerd Jenny Nicholson has gotten over five million views. She was one of the few people who actually went to the $6,000+ for one room for two nights boondoggle, and describes it as a cashgrabby-yet-cheapskate failure in almost every single vector.

She's a big fan of expensive theme hotels but says this piece of crap was worth no more than 40% of what Disney was charging, at most.

Her latest video, her first in a year, is a four-hour achingly precise dissection of Star Wars Galactic Cruiser, an immersive role-playing experience that was nicknamed the Star Wars hotel. Galactic Starcruiser was a two-night event where guests paid a high four figures to board a fake spaceship and live as though they were part of a story set in the Star Wars galaxy. It opened on March 1, 2022, and closed on September 30, 2023, which should give you an indication of how popular it was. Eight months after its closure, Nicholson detailed her experience visiting the resort. She paid over $6,000 for her two-night stay and broke down with laser-like focus why her experience was so underwhelming. It's a great piece of work and a curiously tragic video, one where an enthusiast who was the target demographic for this ultimately niche attraction found herself left underwhelmed by a poorly executed corporate folly. It's 100% worth four hours of your time.

The internet agreed, and as of the writing of this piece, Nicholson's video has earned over 5 million views in one week. It's gone wildly viral beyond Nicholson's own niche, where she's already a big deal.

The Disney shills, including Screen Rant, are out with their typical Disney-approved talking points.

But it's hard to argue with Nicholson -- not only did Disney itself determine the $500 million hotel was a total loss, but they pulled the plug on it after a year. They didn't even try to save it -- they knew it was doomed.

But the Disney shills in the media say it was totally awesome.

The unexpected side of this is how it seems to have made a lot of people freak out.
Screen Rant, a content mill I used to write for, published a curiously defensive piece on the attraction, written by a former employee who seemed aggrieved with points that Nicholson never actually made in her video. While it doesn't name Nicholson or directly reference her video, it's obvious that the piece is a response to her work. Largely, it's SEO bait from a site that is ruthlessly efficient at creating it. They saw Nicholson's video doing well, wanted to cash in on it, but also wanted to stay on the good side of Disney.
The defensiveness over an attraction that, may I remind you, has shuttered is curious, to say the least. It's also evident that neither the writer nor their editors watched Nicholson's video (or at least the entire thing) because Nicholson rails against the ways that the attraction was dominated by corporate marketing lingo that depersonalized the experience, and the article is full of the exact same rhetoric. It reads like a press release hyping up something that no longer exists, damage control to poorly balance out the sheer number of mainstream media headlines Nicholson got for her video going viral. Nobody bought it.
It wasn't just them, though. Many Disney fans and content creators seemed truly furious with Nicholson for vlogging about her visit to an attraction she paid real money to attend. They mocked her for taking the attraction too seriously despite the fact that it was sold as an immersive experience where people were encouraged to roleplay.

The "immersive experience" cost $6,000 to $12,000 for a single room for two days.

Was she supposed to treat it as a blow-off?

Screen Rant's Disney Corporate Client Service article is here.

Nichoslon roasted the Disfluencers in her video, pointing out that many of the "influencers" pushing the hotel from the start were compensated and given free passes to the "experience."

Sort of. They were given a free four-our mini-"experience" and told what would be happening during the other 20 hours of the "experience." But many of them lied and just said they saw the entire two-day "show."

She was accused of somehow being both anti-Disney and a corporate shill. They said she was overtly critical and trying to take down the good people at the House of Mouse.

As she herself is, she's is the perfect target audience for this sort of thing. She did a two hour (positive) deep dive on Disney's Avatar attraction. And she's a huge Disney and Star Wars fan and a progressive.

Viewers of the video might wonder why she keeps calling an R2-D2-like droid "them;" I assume it's because she doesn't know the droid's chosen pronouns. (Or Disney specified that it was a they/them in marketing material -- I wouldn't put it past them.)

So she's no conservative. She's evaluating Disney objectively, and the shills will not have that.

The video is here. I hate to admit I watched the whole thing over Memorial Day weekend.

Is it worth it? Well I watched at 1.5x speed so it was "only" two and a half hours for me, and of course this subject is very interesting to me, so it was worth it for me. I think most of you may find this a little excessive.

It is very thorough, though. She points out how incredibly small the rooms at this "luxurious" hotel are. She also points out that on a real cruise ship, where space (and weight) are limited, the rooms are actually much bigger than at the landlocked fake "cruise" hotel that Disney tried to peddle for $6,000 to $12,000 per room for a two day "experience."

Why so small? You have all the space you want out in that Florida swamp.

Because Disney thinks it can constantly escalate its prices and parents will keep on coming to please their children, she concludes.

I think the tide is turning on that calculation.

Nicholson deploys an interesting comparison. She compares Spirit Airlines to luxury cruises. Now, Spirit Air offers you a rockbottom low price for a ticket -- but then they nickel-and-dime you and charge you for each bag you bring on board, including even a purse, and for every mini-can of Coke or bag of peanuts.

Luxury cruises, on the other hand, charge a huge upfront cost -- but then almost everything is free for the actual cruise.

Disney has created a hybrid model in its parks, she argues, not just with the Star Wars hotel but with all of its theme parks, in which they charge ludicrously high upfront costs -- but then also nickel-and-dime you for every possible incidental amenity.

The Spirit Air model works. The all-in all-inclusive luxury model works.

The Disney model which blends the worst aspects of both pricing models does not work.

There is evidence for that: Publicly-available information for wait times at Disney rides reveals that very few people were in the park on Memorial Day, one of the biggest amusement park days of the year. In this clip, they discuss rides that often have waits of an hour or more having barely any wait time at all -- sometimes no more than it physically takes to walk from an attraction's entrance to the actual attraction.

Beyond Disney's woes, Hollywood is experiencing a "full-scale depression." I mentioned this article before, but just to refresh your recollection:

Hollywood Contraction Hits Entertainment Executive Jobs: "This Is A Full-Scale Depression"
LinkedIn is usually used by professionals for networking with people in their field, posting updates when they get a new job or congratulating friends on their promotions.
These days, as one former industry type put it, "it's become a therapy site for unemployed entertainment executives" who share their frustrations over the lack of opportunities in Hollywood amid a major contraction.
"I've seen lots of downturns, lots of job losses but I've never seen anything like this," one veteran top TV executive said. "This is a full-scale depression for the entertainment industry."
Over the past year, there have been waves of layoffs at Disney, Warner Bros Discovery, Paramount, NBCUniversal, Amazon MGM Studios, Lionsgate (which acquired eOne), Netflix, Sony, Fifth Season and most talent agencies including CAA and UTA.
The dire situation, "bordering on worst-case scenario," the seasoned TV executive said, was created by a perfect storm of Covid, strikes and "poor management decisions coming home to roost" driven by short-sighted moves by media companies aimed at goosing their quarterly reports to appease Wall Street.
Those venting about their experiences on LinkedIn say that they have sent hundreds of job applications and never got a response to the majority of them, not even from HR. Some have been on the sidelines for more than a year while trying to pick up consulting and other part-time gigs to pay the bills.
The more senior executives turn to headhunters.
"I have certainly an influx of executives that reach out and say, they're looking for their next [job]," said top Hollywood executive recruiter Jamie Waldron, Senior Partner, Global Head of Sports, Media + Entertainment, at Modern Executive Solutions. His "conservative estimate" is that "a good 20%" of the VP-and-above executive workforce in media and entertainment is out of work from a year ago.
Based on his observations, legal and marketing executives have been heavily impacted, followed closely by development execs.
"There is no doubt a contraction," Waldron added. "It just makes it tough in the short term I feel like, with a lot of good executives. I can't meet everybody that wants to meet to talk about that they're about to be unemployed or this layoffs now happening."
For many newly unemployed execs it's been a major adjustment, losing a lofty salary with bonuses and stock but also perks such as company cars and expense accounts.
Most of those that have met with Waldron have put on a brave face, saying they feel great about taking a break and are happy to spend time with their kids. "And some are honest, 'No, I'm scared,' " he said.
During the strikes, Waldron, whose father, 91, is a former writer and still a WGA member, said he was "looking at the fear and listening to all the stories of the writers and actors that are losing their houses."
"What was kind of lost in the story was executives were doing the same thing, executives that were laid off were losing their houses and the private school tuition for their kids, and those jobs didn't come back because either the contraction of the industry, or they're waiting for them to come back," he said.

Hollywood often turns to cheap low-budget, non-union reality TV when times are tough. (Or when strikes have delayed normal scripted shows.)

But now reality TV is in a recession, too.

Many veteran unscripted producers and sellers, who asked to remain anonymous in a bid to protect future sales, say the downturn is mirroring what's happening in the scripted TV space as budgets there, too, are being squeezed across the board, and especially on broadcast. Unscripted shows, which historically have been cheaper to make and faster to produce, are feeling the same fiscal pinch as their scripted counterparts as media companies right-size their slates and spending. "It's the same problem as scripted, and it's really depressing," says one veteran reality executive.
The overall contraction and M&A have also meant fewer buyers for unscripted fare. Max, for example, no longer has its own unscripted department after incorporating Discovery's vast portfolio of programming into the streamer. "At the legacy companies, you have massive fiscal pressure going on -- just look at the stock prices. Those are the traditional buyers. It's the same reasons you've seen in scripted, just leading to unscripted as well," says one longtime seller.
Budgets for the shows that are being greenlit, meanwhile, are getting slashed, which is trickling down to affect the salaries that are being offered, according to sources. Some particularly noteworthy examples have made the rounds in online reality communities: One longtime reality producer, who says seasoned story producers used to be able to make $2,800 a week, shares a job posting starting May 31 and offering $350 to $450 a day, which amounts to $1,750 to $2,250 a week; a story producer sends a screenshot of a job starting in January that offered $1,800 to $2,200 a week for the same role. "Unfortunately, there's a lot more supply than demand right now" when it comes to available workers, adds the veteran reality TV producer. As a result, "Everybody's Scrooge McDucking it."

Oh well!

This industry -- and many others -- has been at hostile, nasty hot war with half of its former customer base since 2015. (It was in a cold war with half the population before that.)

Did they think that would never cost them their jobs?

Related: California has a big problem with thieves stealing catalytic converters, for the precious metals it's made of. They have this problem because they don't punish thieves.

California Democrats, on the other hand, say that California has this problem because car manufacturers make it too easy to steal these parts. The part is underneath the car in about the center of the car's body and is welded to the frame. You know, easy-peasy to just take on an impulse.

Even Ana Kasparian has wised up to the lunacy of blaming car makers for car theft. California legislators say they don't want the "easy" solution of sending thieves to jail. They want to instead confront the "root causes" of the crime, which is that car makers are building cars with these devices. (Which the government mandates them to install, of course.)

Not only does Nitya Ramen not want to punish thieves -- she even voted against a provision that would require proof-of-lawful-purchase for anyone attempting to sell a used catalytic converter. She is affirmatively fighting to keep this crime viable.

Promoting thievery and criminality has consequences.

Over the weekend, an actor appearing on General Hospital saw some Gentle Giants Who Were Starting Their Rap Careers screwing with his car.

When he intervened, they murdered him.

A nationwide crime trend plaguing car owners has gained renewed focus amid the unsolved killing of "General Hospital" actor Johnny Wactor who was gunned down when he caught thieves in Los Angeles ripping off the catalytic converter of his Toyota Prius.
The automotive part meant to reduce smog caused by combustion engines has become a preferred target for criminals as the prices of the precious metals inside the component -- rhodium, platinum and palladium -- have skyrocketed in recent years.
Rhodium, for instance, currently goes for $4,750 a troy ounce, the measurement for precious metals, or about twice the cost of gold, according to Trading Economics, a website that tracks economic indicators. Platinum is currently priced at $1,046 per troy ounce, while palladium is going for $957.

According to the National Automobile Dealers Association, a stolen catalytic converter can fetch between $20 and $350 on the black market.
Jim McDonnell, a former Los Angeles County Sheriff, told ABC News the quick money thieves are getting on the black market for the part outweighs the risk of getting caught because penalties have been historically low and the priority law enforcement agencies place on such crimes takes a back seat to violent crime.

But let's get at the "root causes" of this murder -- a law-abiding citizen attempting to stop thieves from robbing him.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:26 PM

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

2 1st

Posted by: GF at May 31, 2024 04:25 PM (tUCgX)

3 The post is as long as the video!

Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2024 04:26 PM (OguvZ)

4 But the Disney shills in the media say it was totally awesome.

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I saw some videos. Well, snippets of some videos.

It looked like some kind of nightmare.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

5 Top 5?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at May 31, 2024 04:26 PM (iSfV4)

6 Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.

Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.
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Bears repeating.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:27 PM (krQz2)

7 Burn mouse, burn.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 31, 2024 04:27 PM (JMAcK)

8 Nood sent.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at May 31, 2024 04:27 PM (iSfV4)

9 Willowed:

376 Trump campaign warns other GOP candidates not to use guilty verdict to solicit campaign donations

https://tinyurl.com/5d4aehnh

I guess they want to keep all the cash for themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:27 PM (xCA6C)

10 >>>Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.

>>>Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.

Say what?

Posted by: No Name Today at May 31, 2024 04:29 PM (vlXMQ)

11 Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.

Disney's Star Wars hotel, a half-billion dollar failure written off completely for a $300 million tax break in 2023 after operating for a little over a year, is back on everyone's radar again.

--- Jimmy Two Times

Posted by: Tonypete at May 31, 2024 04:29 PM (WXNFJ)

12 Disney has created a hybrid model, she argues, not just with the Star Wars hotel but with all of its theme parks in cruises, in which they charge ludicrously high upfront costs -- but then also nickel-and-dime you for every possible incidental amenity.

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I have done...ahem...some Disney cruises.

It's not quite right. All of the regular food is free. There are regular meals and even a patio area where there are a la carte eateries by the pool where everything is free through lunch. There's a big breakfast area, too. There's free Coke everywhere. All of the entertainment is free.

What costs you is the elite dining (Michelin star level restaurants), the extra stuff when you port (pretty much everything), and booze.

It's a similar experience to other comparable cruise lines, except on Royal you have to buy the Coke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

13 My wife and I had an entire Hawaiian vacation- 8 days, 7 nights- for $6000.*

TWO nights in a hotel for that price???

Yeah, thanks. I'll do something actually fun for that price.

*might be a little more, might be a little less. But it was comparable

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (JMAcK)

14 Star Wars Hotel? $6k/night? I'm w/Obama on this...some people have too much money.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (AwYPR)

15 I just got this email. I am not making this up. Verbatim:

"House Republicans have been in the trenches with President Trump since the beginning, and we know you have been too, Friend. It’s times like these where we have to fight back harder than EVER to preserve the America we know and love."

I don't know which party to hate more.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (vFG9F)

16 This industry -- and many others -- has been at hostile, nasty hot war with half of its former customer base since 2015. (It was in a cold war with half the population before that.)

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On top of all that is the streaming fiasco, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

17 >>>It's not quite right. All of the regular food is free. There are regular meals and even a patio area where there are a la carte eateries by the pool where everything is free through lunch. There's a big breakfast area, too. There's free Coke everywhere. All of the entertainment is free.

She was talking about the parks, I guess I said parks and cruises. I'll fix that.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

18 What kinda weirdo would pay to stay at a Star Wars motel?

Adult children, that's what kind.

Turn the Star Wars Motel into a Strip Club/Whorehouse and watch the money pile up.

Your welcome!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 04:31 PM (LWWqx)

19 Disney has created a hybrid model, she argues, not just with the Star Wars hotel but with all of its theme parks in cruises, in which they charge ludicrously high upfront costs -- but then also nickel-and-dime you for every possible incidental amenity.

It would have worked if only Disney had had it's rides and ships built by Boeing.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:32 PM (xCA6C)

20 Movie theaters will die and all movies will go direct to streaming. The tide has turned. You're not getting Gen Z to willingly go without their phones for 2 to 3 hours for a movie theater experience.

Posted by: brak at May 31, 2024 04:32 PM (SNljJ)

21 17 She was talking about the parks, I guess I said parks and cruises. I'll fix that.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

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Well, the parks do nickel and dime the crap out of you, for sure.

But so does every park. Bring water bottles and snacks. Buy a popcorn bucket and get those refill prices.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

22 and the priority law enforcement agencies place on such crimes takes a back seat to ~~violent crime~~ pronoun infringement.

Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (OguvZ)

23 20 Movie theaters will die and all movies will go direct to streaming. The tide has turned. You're not getting Gen Z to willingly go without their phones for 2 to 3 hours for a movie theater experience.
Posted by: brak at May 31, 2024 04:32 PM (SNljJ)

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If movie theaters were going to die they would have died during covid. They came back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

24 "Root cause" was a term coined by ... Karl Marx.

'Nuff said.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

25 Propaganda works.

In the 1960s the government started an anti-theft PSA ad campaign (in those days everybody left the car keys in the car.)

“Help keep a Good Kid from going bad” it intoned, and remove those keys from the ignition.

The outcry from the public was intense, and the advertisement was pulled. There were enough people who knew what was what back then.

Today, the usual suspects will claim you DESERVE to have your car stolen if the keys are in the ignition. Or even idling in your driveway. Somehow, nobody has any agency, no free will, and no one can be expected to control themselves.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (I8Xka)

26 >>>But so does every park. Bring water bottles and snacks. Buy a popcorn bucket and get those refill prices.

no other parks charge what Disney charges just to get in the door.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (KRtlO)

27 Not only does Nitya Ramen not want to punish thieves...

Worst Ramen I Ever had.

Posted by: Cannibal that Ate Biden's Uncle at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (ynpvh)

28 3 The post is as long as the video!

i read it at 1.5x speed so it didn't seem that long to me.

Posted by: anachronda at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (v3pYe)

29 "There is evidence for that: Publicly-available information for wait times at Disney rides reveals that very few people were in the park on Memorial Day, one of the biggest amusement park days of the year. In this clip, they discuss rides that often have waits of an hour or more having barely any wait time at all -- sometimes no more than it physically takes to walk from an attraction's entrance to the actual attraction."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The one area of Disney that hadn't yet tanked is showing signs of weakness.

Burn mouse, Burn. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(Mine is an evil laugh)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (JMAcK)

30 On a related note I went shopping for shirts today. I used to buy my shirts from Bass Pro but they quit carrying the kind I liked. We went to multiple places with no luck and I said, hey let's try target I bought shirts there 10 years ago.

What a fvcking mistake. Walking back to the mens department was like walking into a gay disco clothing store. The *gayness* was so in your face it was disgusting. I abandoned the cart and left.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

31 Well, the parks do nickel and dime the crap out of you, for sure.

But so does every park. Bring water bottles and snacks. Buy a popcorn bucket and get those refill prices.

When my kids were young, and we went to DW, the wife and I brought in sandwiches and drinks in our knapsacks. I remember eating furtively in some out of the way nook, just in case the Mouse police were watching. I think that was the beginning of my hatred for DW.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (xCA6C)

32 If movie theaters were going to die they would have died during covid. They came back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

Haven't been to a movie theater since 2011.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (AwYPR)

33 Bears repeating.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:27 PM (krQz2)

It was actually ace doing the repeating.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 31, 2024 04:35 PM (JMAcK)

34 Theaters didn't fully come back. And as older generations age out of going, they will become a niche thing at best. People don't want to silence their phones and put them away for 3 hours.

Posted by: brak at May 31, 2024 04:35 PM (SNljJ)

35 Burn mouse, Burn. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(Mine is an evil laugh)

That was implied from the context.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:35 PM (xCA6C)

36 I don't really follow the Disney stuff too closely (as I am not in the target demo for any of their shows or other services/products and have not been for decades). But that 4-hour video is really interesting. The chick who does it is not an inveterate Disney hater (quite the opposite) and she just lays out, very convincingly, what a terrible, overpriced product that hotel was and shows how fake/astroturf the marketing for it was.

Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (cNrpt)

37 We watched this over a few days when it dropped...oh, wow, it's only been two weeks. Well, it's been a LONG two weeks for me.

Nicholson's stuff is really entertaining. There's another long video on the Evermore theme park. And I think it works because she =really= wants to like all these places, and she's rooting for them to succeed. She's also reasonably forgiving.

But then she points out, for her these are business expenses, and who can afford to drop that kind of money--for crud--when it isn't?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (FTfch)

38 22 and the priority law enforcement agencies place on such crimes takes a back seat to ~~violent crime~~ pronoun infringement.

Fixed for accuracy.

good thing trump instructed his folks to use the correct pronouns in the fake paperwork. dodged a hate crime multiplier there.

Posted by: anachronda at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (v3pYe)

39 35 Burn mouse, Burn. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(Mine is an evil laugh)

That was implied from the context.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:35 PM (xCA6C)

Reminds me of a meme I saw:
"I beat a giant mouse to death with a baseball bat; I don't know why the rest of the folks at Disneyland screamed."

Posted by: Cannibal that Ate Biden's Uncle at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (ynpvh)

40 If movie theaters were going to die they would have died during covid. They came back.

We've had this discussion before. All I can say is that I wouldn't invest a penny in movie theaters.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (xCA6C)

41 Theaters didn't fully come back. And as older generations age out of going, they will become a niche thing at best. People don't want to silence their phones and put them away for 3 hours.
Posted by: brak

Let's all go to lobby. . . .
https://youtu.be/lm6IU6V-dE8?si=fax4UHJV5ZbJpEYo

Posted by: Tonypete at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (WXNFJ)

42 I can't imagine cleaning toilets at the Star Wars Hotel. Those damned Stormtroopers' aim is terrible!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (991eG)

43 The theaters that are coming back are including dinner and cocktails.

This means less seats.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (IFNME)

44 "There is evidence for that: Publicly-available information for wait times at Disney rides reveals that very few people were in the park on Memorial Day, one of the biggest amusement park days of the year. In this clip, they discuss rides that often have waits of an hour or more having barely any wait time at all -- sometimes no more than it physically takes to walk from an attraction's entrance to the actual attraction."

I recall being able to buy a "super pass" some years back at disney parks that would allow you head of the line privileges on certain rides. It was expensive but saved a ton of waiting in line time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (QNSds)

45 "But let's get at the "root causes" of this murder -- a law-abiding citizen attempting to stop thieves from robbing him."

From what I read earlier, he wasn't even trying to stop them.

He came upon them as he was walking a lady to her car and asked them what they were doing because he honestly didn't understand what was going on. They shot him for stumbling upon them.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (JMAcK)

46 Disney has created a hybrid model in its parks, she argues, not just with the Star Wars hotel but with all of its theme parks, in which they charge ludicrously high upfront costs -- but then also nickel-and-dime you for every possible incidental amenity.
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They're not the only ones, but they are probably one of the better examples of it.

High-end domestic hotels, especially in places like Las Vegas, also do this. The room is expensive. Then you get to pay for Wi-Fi. Forgot your toothbrush? That'll be charged to your room. There is no such thing as "complimentary" anything. But the Super8 down the road is cheaper, much less nice, and includes Wi-Fi and if you need a shitty razor because you forgot to pack yours, the front desk will hand you one gratis.

This is fairly normal, in my experience, in the hospitality industry specifically. The more you pay, the less you get. You pay a lot for the fancy room in the swank hotel, and then get nickled-and-dimed for the rest of the stay.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (d04cU)

47 39 35 Burn mouse, Burn. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(Mine is an evil laugh)

That was implied from the context.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:35 PM (xCA6C)

Reminds me of a meme I saw:
"I beat a giant mouse to death with a baseball bat; I don't know why the rest of the folks at Disneyland screamed."

Posted by: Cannibal that Ate Biden's Uncle at May 31, 2024 04:37 PM (ynpvh)

Found it:
http://tiny.cc/40fbyz

Posted by: Cannibal that Ate Biden's Uncle at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (ynpvh)

48 6 Bears repeating.

bears repeating > men repeating

Posted by: tiktok influencers at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (v3pYe)

49 What a fvcking mistake. Walking back to the mens department was like walking into a gay disco clothing store. The *gayness* was so in your face it was disgusting. I abandoned the cart and left.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

WalMart has the Ben Hogan line of slacks, collared shirts and dress shorts that are well made, last, good prices and you look like a heterosexual adult while wearing as well as being comfortable with enough room for The Package to relax.

Your Welcome!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (LWWqx)

50 digging and re-laying my sewer line was quoted out at $10K, just for perspective. The nice thing about both experiences would be that I could crap on both of them for the rest of my life

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (D7oie)

51 LOL Muldoon.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (vFG9F)

52 This is basically a type/delete situation.
On the other hand if we can get mining settlements on asteroids, rhodium and platinum costs should go down here, so those honorstudents and choirboys will at least not bother our cars.

Posted by: spacex fanboi at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (gKWVE)

53 I love my family, but I have a couple of siblings and in-laws who would LOVE to stay at any kind of Star Wars themed hotel.

I never criticize them: Hell, my favorite TV show ever is Mystery Science Theater 3000 (not the new ones - fuck Patton Oswalt), so I have no room to talk. But their level of devotion is weird. See also Harry Potter.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (hZc6Q)

54 Over the weekend, an actor appearing on General Hospital saw some Gentle Giants Who Were Starting Their Rap Careers screwing with his car.

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Oh dang, he died for a catalytic converter (or, as the Trayvon and Floyd-Georges say, a "cadillac coverter")

There's not even a "be on the lookout for a man."

That case is closed. Tough luck, sir.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a razist at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (LijfE)

55 I watched it all at speed as well over the Memorial Day weekend. It was something to do waiting for the rain to stop for the Indy race.

The only real critique against her critique is she obviously didn't know what to do to enjoy the adventure. She says this multiple times, and her point if she, a cosplay fan of Star Wars, can't figure it out, then how is the average person? I think her point is valid. Do you have to do research before trying to enjoy your $6,000 vacation, or as she notes $4/min of entertainment?

She is also the only critic of the endeavor that pointed out that Disney should have modelled the experience off their cruise line, and how much the experience of the onland, windowless resort, failed to compare dollar to dollar on hotel room, amenities, and dining along with length of stay and "immersive experience".

Also as Ace notes, I watched her other stuff, and she's a progressive. She drove several hours to buy a 4' Porg that was sold by Target. Fucking Porgs...

Posted by: Leland at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (KVDMz)

56 53 I love my family, but I have a couple of siblings and in-laws who would LOVE to stay at any kind of Star Wars themed hotel.

I never criticize them: Hell, my favorite TV show ever is Mystery Science Theater 3000 (not the new ones - fuck Patton Oswalt), so I have no room to talk. But their level of devotion is weird. See also Harry Potter.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (hZc6Q)

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Did they actually go? Did they plan on going?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

57 I can't imagine cleaning toilets at the Star Wars Hotel. Those damned Stormtroopers' aim is terrible!
Posted by: Muldoon

Heh.

Can you image the carnage if some yelled "Fire!" in there?

Stormtroopers shooting up the place!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (WXNFJ)

58 I recall being able to buy a "super pass" some years back at disney parks that would allow you head of the line privileges on certain rides. It was expensive but saved a ton of waiting in line time.

I assume that's the same as a "Fast Pass". It's just a way to extract more money from the monied classes. I kind of expected a revolt from the masses and the implementation of guillotines.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (xCA6C)

59 This is fairly normal, in my experience, in the hospitality industry specifically. The more you pay, the less you get.

Right. People traveling for business and expensing everything, plus people "splurging " on luxury and willing to pay.

Posted by: brak at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (SNljJ)

60 Today, the usual suspects will claim you DESERVE to have your car stolen if the keys are in the ignition. Or even idling in your driveway. Somehow, nobody has any agency, no free will, and no one can be expected to control themselves.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (I8Xka)
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Quebec already put that message out.

A society that cannot expect you to control yourself, cannot expect to stay in control. Because like Jan-6 they lash out at the breech of self-control they want to.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (krQz2)

61 Shit product + Bidenomics, what a combo.

Posted by: uniparty Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (gxokI)

62 This is fairly normal, in my experience, in the hospitality industry specifically. The more you pay, the less you get. You pay a lot for the fancy room in the swank hotel, and then get nickled-and-dimed for the rest of the stay.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM

Resort fees, valet, everyone has their hand out for a tip. Pro tip though in Vegas, you can ask security/lost and found for a phone charger, they have boxes of them. I forgot a charger one time and went and asked someone and they had a lot of them. I just left it in the room.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (uHd5d)

63 Today, the usual suspects will claim you DESERVE to have your car stolen if the keys are in the ignition. Or even idling in your driveway. Somehow, nobody has any agency, no free will, and no one can be expected to control themselves.

--

Remember the Summer of Love?

You've got insurance.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a razist at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (LijfE)

64 Largely, it's SEO bait from a site that is ruthlessly efficient at creating it.
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What does "SEO" stand for?

Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (1bNHn)

65 17 >>>It's not quite right. All of the regular food is free. There are regular meals and even a patio area where there are a la carte eateries by the pool where everything is free through lunch. There's a big breakfast area, too. There's free Coke everywhere. All of the entertainment is free.

She was talking about the parks, I guess I said parks and cruises. I'll fix that.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

Yeah, at one point she actually compares it unfavorably with Disney cruises, noting how high-end a cruise was for the same price point.

Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (cNrpt)

66 >>>The only real critique against her critique is she obviously didn't know what to do to enjoy the adventure. She says this multiple times, and her point if she, a cosplay fan of Star Wars, can't figure it out, then how is the average person? I think her point is valid. Do you have to do research before trying to enjoy your $6,000 vacation, or as she notes $4/min of entertainment?

well as you saw it, you know she did everything within her power to get the game system to recognize her and start giving her tasks and sending her on missions, but it never did. The system ghosted her, and apparently it did this to a lot of other people too.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

67 55 Also as Ace notes, I watched her other stuff, and she's a progressive. She drove several hours to buy a 4' Porg that was sold by Target. Fucking Porgs...

hmmm. *scribbles note*

Posted by: chinese sexbot developer at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (v3pYe)

68 Not "you" as in tater, but "you" as in people that own things.

It's expected of you to let it go. After all, it's not costing you anything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a razist at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (LijfE)

69 geez. off sock. Gotta remember to change my socks.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2024 04:42 PM (ynpvh)

70 55 The only real critique against her critique is she obviously didn't know what to do to enjoy the adventure. She says this multiple times, and her point if she, a cosplay fan of Star Wars, can't figure it out, then how is the average person? I think her point is valid. Do you have to do research before trying to enjoy your $6,000 vacation, or as she notes $4/min of entertainment?

Posted by: Leland at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (KVDMz)

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What I've seen in different videos was just an assault on the sense in an enclosed space while random cast members walk up to asking if you want an adventure.

That really feels like high stress to me, but I'm an introvert.

So, the ideal experience is an extroverted Star Wars geek who prefers the newer movies and has no problem being cooped up inside for 2 days. Maybe if they had made the thing outside it might have worked better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

71 For many newly unemployed execs it's been a major adjustment, losing a lofty salary with bonuses and stock but also perks such as company cars and expense accounts.

Most of those that have met with Waldron have put on a brave face, saying they feel great about taking a break and are happy to spend time with their kids. "And some are honest, 'No, I'm scared,' " he said.
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You should be. The single most dangerous thing you can do if you're a high-earner is live at - or, even worse, beyond - your means. High-income jobs are rare and hard to find. If you depend on that high income because you assumed it would always be there, you're much more likely to wind up fucked regardless of industry. At best, you will find another job paying as much or more than your old one, but it is going to take a long time.

With the right experience and skills, it's relatively easy to find something paying within 25% of the median. If you're up in 90% above median territory, it ain't gonna be quick. The odds of moving into something that pays less after losing a high-income job are pretty good. You'd better be able to afford to do that, which means being disciplined when you *are* making a lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:42 PM (d04cU)

72 Disney can die fast enough and thankfully they have the right people to speed death up running Disney.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 31, 2024 04:42 PM (17s+e)

73 64 Largely, it's SEO bait from a site that is ruthlessly efficient at creating it.
_______

What does "SEO" stand for?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (1bNHn)

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Search Engine Optimization.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

74 I feel like we should all make reservations for Disney World, to cancel them.

But that probably runs into money.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (krQz2)

75 59 This is fairly normal, in my experience, in the hospitality industry specifically. The more you pay, the less you get.

Right. People traveling for business and expensing everything, plus people "splurging " on luxury and willing to pay.

Posted by: brak at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (SNljJ)

Sounds like eating out these days...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (ynpvh)

76 66 well as you saw it, you know she did everything within her power to get the game system to recognize her and start giving her tasks and sending her on missions, but it never did. The system ghosted her, and apparently it did this to a lot of other people too.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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There's a small system on the Disney cruises that seems to be similar. I couldn't get it to work all the way through for Junior. It stopped working at step 9 of 12 or thereabouts.

I found it odd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

77 Did they actually go? Did they plan on going?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

No, but if they won a contest or something, oh yeah. But they have spent a lot of money visiting Disney World and Universal. Blech.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (hZc6Q)

78 What I've seen in different videos was just an assault on the sense in an enclosed space while random cast members walk up to asking if you want an adventure.

That really feels like high stress to me, but I'm an introvert.

Yup. I'd have busted out of there like Capt. America out of his "hospital" room.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (xCA6C)

79 @23

>>If movie theaters were going to die they would have died during covid. They came back.

I think the days of the megalith multiplexes are about to come to an end and what we will get are triplexes, niche single screen theaters that will show multicast events and porno theaters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (XV/Pl)

80 61 Shit product + Bidenomics, what a combo.

Posted by: uniparty Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at May 31, 2024 04:40 PM (gxokI)

Depends stock up...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (ynpvh)

81 77 Did they actually go? Did they plan on going?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

No, but if they won a contest or something, oh yeah. But they have spent a lot of money visiting Disney World and Universal. Blech.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (hZc6Q)

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So, they say they would be the ideal customers, but they never bothered to actually try. It's just interesting to hear such examples.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (GBKbO)

82 "it's become a therapy site for unemployed entertainment executives"

"a full-scale depression for the entertainment industry."

"And some are honest, 'No, I'm scared,' "

"looking at the fear and listening to all the stories of the writers and actors that are losing their houses."

"executives that were laid off were losing their houses and the private school tuition for their kids, and those jobs didn't come back because either the contraction of the industry,"

Oh God, I know it's wrong, but this is intoxicating! I haven't tasted schadenfreud like this since 2016!

Well, perhaps they will use the gift of this time for heartfelt introspection and reconsider the many errors of their ways.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (0Uf+z)

83 well as you saw it, you know she did everything within her power to get the game system to recognize her and start giving her tasks and sending her on missions, but it never did. The system ghosted her, and apparently it did this to a lot of other people too.
Posted by: ace

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I bet she needed to find the shopkeeper and go exterminate six rats in a basement somewhere first.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a razist at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (LijfE)

84 Related: California has a big problem with thieves stealing catalytic converters, for the precious metals it's made of. They have this problem because they don't punish thieves.
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I have a co-worker who lives in San Francisco. On a call sometime last year, he mentioned how annoyed he was with FedEx because they left a package at the bottom of the stairs instead of bringing it up to the door. He saw the delivery on his security camera and by the time he walked outside to get it, it had been stolen. Then he followed it up with, "at least my catalytic converter hasn't been stolen. My neighbor had the cat stolen off his Prius three times in six months. After the third time, he just gave up and got rid of it and he doesn't bother owning a car anymore."

He was pretty blase about it. Just life in the big city, I guess. People can get used to anything.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (d04cU)

85 63 Today, the usual suspects will claim you DESERVE to have your car stolen if the keys are in the ignition. Or even idling in your driveway. Somehow, nobody has any agency, no free will, and no one can be expected to control themselves.

--

Remember the Summer of Love?

You've got insurance.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a razist at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (LijfE)

Except the insurance didn't cover the cost of clean-up, or lost revenues.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (ynpvh)

86 >>>Why are the rooms so small?

https://youtu.be/WVgLLGQT6lE?t=157

Anyone who would pay $6,000 for a two day star wars themed hotel experience, certainly would pay $6.000 for a two day star wars themed hotel experience in a tiny room.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (uoTQC)

87 There's free Coke everywhere.

Count me in!

Posted by: Nick R*ki*ta at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (yOPBE)

88 76 66 well as you saw it, you know she did everything within her power to get the game system to recognize her and start giving her tasks and sending her on missions, but it never did. The system ghosted her, and apparently it did this to a lot of other people too.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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There's a small system on the Disney cruises that seems to be similar. I couldn't get it to work all the way through for Junior. It stopped working at step 9 of 12 or thereabouts.

I found it odd.

i blame agile.

not that i'm bitter or anything.

Posted by: anachronda at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (v3pYe)

89 24 "Root cause" was a term coined by ... Karl Marx.

'Nuff said.

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Ooh, I'm gonna need a cite on that. It's not that it's not possible--it is after all a redundant, semi-dumb phrase (since it's either the cause or it isn't)--but I feel like it's been around since the 18th century.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (dEeNY)

90 79 @23

>>If movie theaters were going to die they would have died during covid. They came back.

I think the days of the megalith multiplexes are about to come to an end and what we will get are triplexes, niche single screen theaters that will show multicast events and porno theaters.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 04:44 PM (XV/Pl)

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I have no crystal ball, and the theatrical model is obviously contracting. I don't know what form it will take, but it's obvious that there will be a form and movies in theaters will still be a thing.

The biggest reason is that the theater experience makes more money for studios than streaming does. They need it to thrive. They thought they could kill it, and then they realized how much they needed it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

91 I feel like we should all make reservations for Disney World, to cancel them.

But that probably runs into money.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (krQz2)

Do they require a deposit?

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (AwYPR)

92 Disney has been very clear for years that normal Americans are not who they serve, and they're increasingly insulted at the implication that Christian white people even should be served.

Jenny Nicholson isn't merely in Disney's base, as one of their (former) top influencers they bent over backwards to appease her good social credit. And she still disliked the experience, never mind its price point.

But they're extremely confident that Disney is too big to fail. Maybe they're right.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (AKKkq)

93 California Democrats, on the other hand, say that California has this problem because car manufacturers make it too easy to steal these parts. The part is underneath the car in about the center of the car's body and is welded to the frame. You know, easy-peasy to just take on an impulse.
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But easy to steal. Slide under, use your battery-powered cutter or grinder to slice it right out of the exhaust system. You don't even need to be careful, because you're not going to be the one fixing it.

I am surprised that more people don't just kick out the jack stands when they see sparks flying out from under a car jacked-up on the street.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (d04cU)

94 Except the insurance didn't cover the cost of clean-up, or lost revenues.

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Ain nobody give a damn bout no cleanups or reviews. Theys TVs to take.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a razist at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (LijfE)

95 $6000 for 2 nights? That's quite the rate. Then you get to pay extra for the "immersive experience"?!!!

For that kind of money, I'd expect to be comped some liquor and snacks, and be treated like minor royalty.

I don't get the whole Star Wars thing. People I work with really get into it, but the attraction escapes me. Yes, I watched the original movie quite few times, but I was 17 years old. I tried to watch it recently and gave up after 30 minutes -- it really is rubbish (Alec Guiness was right).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (pJWtt)

96 Stealing a car in California used to get 1 to 10 at San Quentin.

I bet the cops aren’t allowed to come out and file a report. “Like Us On Facebook!” online I betcha. The saboteurs behind all the “fundamental transformation” are wicked, but they do have chaos and anarchy down to a science. Lots of practice.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (I8Xka)

97 On a related note I went shopping for shirts today. I used to buy my shirts from Bass Pro but they quit carrying the kind I liked. We went to multiple places with no luck ...

Posted by: Mister Scott
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It sucks getting past 29 and clothes you've worn your whole life being discontinued. I've been buying Levis 560s off ebay since they quit making them ten years ago.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (Dm8we)

98 You'd better be able to afford to do that, which means being disciplined when you *are* making a lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Best economic advice I have received was:

1. When 10 years old, a family friend said put 10% of all you make in a savings account.

2. When I graduated college and started making good money a guy 5-6 years older had just bought is second house. He said live for awhile like you did in college and rathole your salary.

3. When I was consulting another consultant said it is feast or famine. So when you are feasting live down from what you are making.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (17s+e)

99 Bears repeating.

bears repeating > men repeating
Posted by: tiktok influencers at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (v3pYe)
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Fuck that!

Posted by: Leonardo at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (krQz2)

100 Jim McDonnell, a former Los Angeles County Sheriff, told ABC News the quick money thieves are getting on the black market for the part outweighs the risk of getting caught because penalties have been historically low and the priority law enforcement agencies place on such crimes takes a back seat to violent crime.
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Which is where the "kick out the jack stands" part should come into play.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (d04cU)

101 91 I feel like we should all make reservations for Disney World, to cancel them.

But that probably runs into money.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:43 PM (krQz2)

Do they require a deposit?
Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:45 PM (AwYPR)

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If it's anything like the cruise tickets, they have it very clear in the cancelation policy that there are no refunds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

102 I watched the entire video, didn’t even speed it up!

She’s genuinely funny in multiple spots, and as a fan absolutely understands why the company as a whole is struggling.

Worth a watch if you’re into the downfall of the mouse.

Posted by: Cashin at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (CiitM)

103 he just gave up and got rid of it and he doesn't bother owning a car anymore

Excellent! It's working as planned.

Posted by: W.E.F. at May 31, 2024 04:47 PM (yOPBE)

104 As a wise man once said… politics is downstream from culture…

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 04:47 PM (PCK5/)

105 Once the oldsters kick the bucket, no one will go to movie theaters any longer.

They will be turned into State museums to showcase how far we have come since The Color Revolution with displays, art and paper mache displays of Donald Trump in handcuffs and Barack Mugabe calming the Seas.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (LWWqx)

106 98 3. When I was consulting another consultant said it is feast or famine. So when you are feasting live down from what you are making.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (17s+e)

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Our financial consultant recommended that I up my 401k contributions to hit the max.

It's weird having nearly a quarter of my pre-tax income poofing away before even the tax man sees it. I mean, he'll see his share eventually, but still.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)

107 I'm telling you, these two clips I link (here and in above comment) are each much more worthwhile than any 4 hour hotel review video, and they are only a tens of seconds long each!

LEAKED --
The disney executives figuring out the price of the hotel stay:

https://youtu.be/GOfql6Uj7C8?t=135

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (uoTQC)

108 70 That really feels like high stress to me, but I'm an introvert.

That's another thing about her, she's an extrovert. She even created a role playing character for her 2-day experience, which seemed to also screw up her adventure (as she explains, the crew apparently know their real names and was confused by her "character" name). Considering they are playing characters, I get that they should catch a clue what she is doing.

For me, that's too much work to be pretend to be someone else on a vacation. That would stress me too. I'm an introvert that has learned to handle large groups as part of my job, but I get paid for that experience. I'm not going to pay others to make me do it. Hell, I get annoyed when Carnival cruise line wants me to join in the Lido deck parties.

Posted by: Leland at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (KVDMz)

109 If it's anything like the cruise tickets, they have it very clear in the cancelation policy that there are no refunds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)
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That's kind of what I figured.

Since Disney thinks of itself as too big to fail.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (krQz2)

110 Dear Hollywood and all of those unemployed and soon-to-be-unemployed execs, Sound of Freedom showed you the way.

Willing to follow?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (KbCG3)

111 The biggest reason is that the theater experience makes more money for studios than streaming does. They need it to thrive. They thought they could kill it, and then they realized how much they needed it.

I don't think "but we need the money" is going to persuade a lot of people to become customers. The theater owners and studios aren't in control; the customers are, and they increasingly don't want to go to a theater.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (xCA6C)

112 Best economic advice I have received was:

1. When 10 years old, a family friend said put 10% of all you make in a savings account.

2. When I graduated college and started making good money a guy 5-6 years older had just bought is second house. He said live for awhile like you did in college and rathole your salary.

3. When I was consulting another consultant said it is feast or famine. So when you are feasting live down from what you are making.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 31, 2024 04:46 PM (17s+e)
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All solid. Even if you're not in feast-or-famine mode, #3 is still good advice. There's no downside other than ruling out instant gratification. Even if bad times don't come, you've amassed working capital and maintained discipline and financial hygiene.

Being affluent and broke is not a good combination. You get *really* skull-fucked and lose everything the moment something goes wrong.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (d04cU)

113 108 For me, that's too much work to be pretend to be someone else on a vacation. That would stress me too. I'm an introvert that has learned to handle large groups as part of my job, but I get paid for that experience. I'm not going to pay others to make me do it. Hell, I get annoyed when Carnival cruise line wants me to join in the Lido deck parties.
Posted by: Leland at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (KVDMz)

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I got Dolley and I spots in a cooking class next weekend (right before my birthday), and the only thing that held me back was the notice that we would be in a group of 4. I don't want to talk to other people. That's not why I'm going out to be around other people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

114 Houston was having a catalytic converter theft problem . The city finally put a LE task force on it and they busted a couple of rings that slowed it down significantly,

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 04:50 PM (SHMXB)

115 Ha-ha!

A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down!
In a most delightful way!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2024 04:50 PM (dmXQN)

116 "Root causes" are more a danger signal than "holistic".

Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2024 04:50 PM (1bNHn)

117 "But let's get at the "root causes" of this murder -- a law-abiding citizen attempting to stop thieves from robbing him."

From what I read earlier, he wasn't even trying to stop them.

He came upon them as he was walking a lady to her car and asked them what they were doing because he honestly didn't understand what was going on. They shot him for stumbling upon them.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (JMAcK)

This isn't new, really. When I lived in Chicago in the late 80s the backseat door on my Nova was ripped off. It was a 4 door hatchback so it was a rare item. When I was going to the repair place the dude their said it was pretty common, and mentioned a few days before someone had tried to intervene when they were stealing his hood and they killed him.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 04:50 PM (eoQWY)

118 Martin Luther: the original catholytic converter.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 31, 2024 04:50 PM (991eG)

119 105 Once the oldsters kick the bucket, no one will go to movie theaters any longer.

They will be turned into State museums to showcase how far we have come since The Color Revolution with displays, art and paper mache displays of Donald Trump in handcuffs and Barack Mugabe calming the Seas.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (LWWqx)

I go maybe once or twice a year, HBC… the last time was to watch Season 4 of The Chosen… seeing it on a huge screen with great sound was satisfying… plus, I gave money to Angel Studios.

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (PCK5/)

120 111 The biggest reason is that the theater experience makes more money for studios than streaming does. They need it to thrive. They thought they could kill it, and then they realized how much they needed it.

I don't think "but we need the money" is going to persuade a lot of people to become customers. The theater owners and studios aren't in control; the customers are, and they increasingly don't want to go to a theater.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (xCA6C)

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Eh. A couple of bombs doesn't mean that it's all over.

Deadpool 3, Inside Out 2, and Despicable Me 4 are all about to make a billion each in the next couple of months, and all the stories will change from "theaters are dying" to "the rumor of theaters' death has been greatly exaggerated."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

121 15 I just got this email. I am not making this up. Verbatim:

"House Republicans have been in the trenches with President Trump since the beginning, and we know you have been too, Friend. It’s times like these where we have to fight back harder than EVER to preserve the America we know and love."

I don't know which party to hate more.
Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (vFG9F)

I can't believe it took the GOP that long to start sending fundraising emails based on Trump's conviction. I was sure they'd be out last night.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (oCS0o)

122 Best economic advice I have received was:

1. When 10 years old, a family friend said put 10% of all you make in a savings account.

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This would be a good thread idea.

Mine was to keep the first hour of every days wages for savings. It's not easy to do, but it works shockingly well to be so simple.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (McPjL)

123 Memorial Day is historically one of the best days to go to DL and WDW. Small crowds. WDW in May is already hot and humid. Senior Nights at MK suck. Park closes early for Normies. It’s great at DL, but California sucks.

Posted by: Oso loco at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (ILafk)

124 121 Wait … Trump gets convicted of 34 counts of felony and Ace decides to do a Disney takedown?

This site has lost its way,
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (cuS3i)

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So, Ace should only post Trump news? The story that started the day isn't enough? The stories from yesterday weren't enough?

I guess you have a great handle on what makes a great blog. You should start one.

Give us the link so we can constantly talk politics all of the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (GBKbO)

125 =

I got Dolley and I spots in a cooking class next weekend (right before my birthday), and the only thing that held me back was the notice that we would be in a group of 4. I don't want to talk to other people. That's not why I'm going out to be around other people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO
Don’t you remember the TxMoMe? Lotta cooking, lotta people, lotta drinking?

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (o2ZRX)

126 When I was out of town for work or seminars, when we went out at night I was a staffer for a Senator I couldn’t name for security purposes.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (SHMXB)

127 "House Republicans have been in the trenches with President Trump since the beginning, and we know you have been too, Friend. It’s times like these where we have to fight back harder than EVER to preserve the America we know and love."

I don't know which party to hate more.
Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (vFG9F)
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That's easy: the GOP.

The Democrats are straightforward. They want you dead, and they tell you so. They make their motives, goals and desired otucomes clear. They're awful, but they aren't bullshitting you.

The GOP says they love you and then stabs you in the back and claims they didn't and you just misunderstand that searing pain near your kidneys, and blame it on someone else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (d04cU)

128 >>>
There's a small system on the Disney cruises that seems to be similar. I couldn't get it to work all the way through for Junior. It stopped working at step 9 of 12 or thereabouts.

she mentioned that disney is terrible at building apps and all of its apps glitch and fail.

But for $3000 a night, when the app is at the very center of the "experience" they've promised you, you'd think that maybe...

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

129 Wait … Trump gets convicted of 34 counts of felony and Ace decides to do a Disney takedown?

This site has lost its way,
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (cuS3i)

I think this is called a "breather"...or "palette cleanser".

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (AwYPR)

130 Shut down the government at every level and I'll consider donating, Republicans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (McPjL)

131 "House Republicans have been in the trenches with President Trump since the beginning, and we know you have been too, Friend. It’s times like these where we have to fight back harder than EVER to preserve the America we know and love."

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Bull. shit, GrOPe.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (krQz2)

132 126 Don’t you remember the TxMoMe? Lotta cooking, lotta people, lotta drinking?
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (o2ZRX)

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I've never been to a MoMe, but I have met a few Morons in real life (DaveInFla and the Mrs, Doof, VIA and Mrs. VIA).

I almost met Mark once, but I moved cities right before to avoid it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

133 "House Republicans have been in the trenches with President Trump since the beginning, and we know you have been too, Friend. It’s times like these where we have to fight back harder than EVER to preserve the America we know and love."

I don't know which party to hate more.
Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 04:30 PM (vFG9F)

I can't believe it took the GOP that long to start sending fundraising emails based on Trump's conviction. I was sure they'd be out last night.

It seems the GOP did not read my #9. Idiots.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (xCA6C)

134 Nobody tell max about yesterday.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (McPjL)

135 I don't know what else you can say about the verdict. If you've got something though, speak up.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (vFG9F)

136 Shut down the government at every level and I'll consider donating, Republicans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (McPjL)
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Culture is upstream of politics.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (krQz2)

137 Viewers of the video might wonder why she keeps calling an R2-D2-like droid "them;" I assume it's because she doesn't know the droid's chosen pronouns. (Or Disney specified that it was a they/them in marketing material -- I wouldn't put it past them.)

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I thought the R2-D2-like droid's chosen pronouns were Beep/Boop/Bop?

[h/t Gina Carano]

Posted by: ShainS -- 'Guilty Until Proven Guilty' Future 'Convicted Felon' at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (6NbPa)

138 129 she mentioned that disney is terrible at building apps and all of its apps glitch and fail.

But for $3000 a night, when the app is at the very center of the "experience" they've promised you, you'd think that maybe...
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

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Yeah, the cruise app isn't good. It's base functional for showing the map and keeping up with the schedule, but anything more interactive is kind of terrible.

Putting it at the center and not QA testing it to death feels like a mistake.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

139 I hate traditional vacations in general. I don't get the "I've got a week off, let's spend it being frantic" mentality. So, even if the hotel was good at doing what it promised (it wasn't), it would just be soulcrushingly awful experience for me.

One of the funnier bits about that hotel was that they effectively got booted to the park for the day as part of this package, where they had to wander around scanning QR codes to receive a prompt from the AI. But whether you received the prompt or not, it appeared to have no in-game effect. It was just busy work to keep them occupied and out of the hotel staff and actors' hair for a block of several hours. Scanning QR codes.

Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (cNrpt)

140 The biggest reason is that the theater experience makes more money for studios than streaming does. They need it to thrive. They thought they could kill it, and then they realized how much they needed it.

I don't think "but we need the money" is going to persuade a lot of people to become customers. The theater owners and studios aren't in control; the customers are, and they increasingly don't want to go to a theater.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (xCA6C)

Streaming as currently set up can't make a ton of money like the studio wants it to. People aren't going to accept a constant entertainment bill of any real size long term. They will pick one, and the cheapest one aside from rare big events. This won't float the bloated studio administrative wing and the hordes of hangers on and never will.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (eoQWY)

141 Here's the really neat part. Not many people are distraught, because it's fairly meaningless.

Happy warriors all.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:55 PM (McPjL)

142 Nobody tell max about yesterday.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (McPjL)
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You mean where we had threads on minimal posts zooming to 700+ posts?

No, I won't tell him that.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:55 PM (krQz2)

143 1. When 10 years old, a family friend said put 10% of all you make in a savings account.
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I opened a savings account after that and the fucking bank took a $3 fee every month. The guy that said that to went down and chewed them a new asshole about the stupidity of disincentivizing new savers. The bank changed their policy of savings account fees for people under 18 right after that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 31, 2024 04:55 PM (17s+e)

144 137 Used to love Ace but his Trump hate did me in. He’ll probably block me now.
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (cuS3i)

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Trump could hate Reagan's puppies for all I care. He's funny and allows some fun discussion and argument.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

145 CGI, motherfuckers! And AI. Disney is dead. Dead! Lock'em up like Trump, you hear me? They're like Hitler.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2024 04:55 PM (dmXQN)

146 Wait … Trump gets convicted of 34 counts of felony and Ace decides to do a Disney takedown?

This site has lost its way,
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (cuS3i)

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There is just so many ways you can repeat the same comments about a subject. By the way I didn’t notice any of your posts on the 4 or 5 threads where the Trump conviction was discussed. I guess ace should have waited for when you were ready to discuss it.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (SHMXB)

147 Shut down the government at every level and I'll consider donating, Republicans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (McPjL)
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Culture is upstream of politics.
Posted by: Axeman

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Oh, absolutely.

I'm looking for them to start listening from 25 years ago.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (McPjL)

148 121 Wait … Trump gets convicted of 34 counts of felony and Ace decides to do a Disney takedown?

This site has lost its way,
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (cuS3i)

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Trump was going to get convicted of 34 counts the moment Merchan took the case and refused to step aside. The rest is a lot of words unless you want to get into action. The only action that will be effective and matter occurs on November 5th. How many more words do you want between now and then?

Take a moment off and enjoy watching progressives piss on each other.

Posted by: Leland at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (KVDMz)

149 Disney and the Trump verdict have something in common. I hate them both

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (Akjoo)

150 This site has lost its way,
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:51 PM (cuS3i)

Okay, smart guy: list those 34 felonies. or is it 34 counts of one felony?

I'll wait.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (hZc6Q)

151 >>>Used to love Ace but his Trump hate did me in. He’ll probably block me now.

Correct. I'm sick of the Trump Justice Warriors telling me what we HAVE TO TALK ABOUT 24/7.

Goodbye, you fucking loser moron with nothing going for you but a crush on a 76 year old man.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

152 As far as a non Trump trial thread is concerned, life goes on, and it will continue to do so. What happened is appalling, but I personally have a life to live and a Disney thread just helps me keep balanced.

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (PCK5/)

153 3 The post is as long as the video!

i read it at 1.5x speed so it didn't seem that long to me.
Posted by: anachronda

That sir, is a special kind of skeeel.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (vcOmj)

154 to love Ace but his Trump hate did me in. He’ll probably block me now.
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM (cuS3i)

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Ban yourself. You just said you were done.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 04:57 PM (SHMXB)

155 142 Streaming as currently set up can't make a ton of money like the studio wants it to. People aren't going to accept a constant entertainment bill of any real size long term. They will pick one, and the cheapest one aside from rare big events. This won't float the bloated studio administrative wing and the hordes of hangers on and never will.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (eoQWY)

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That's why they're trying to bundle again.

Unclear if it'll work. Bundling on cable seems to have started through either necessity or simply having total control of delivery. Streaming is very different.

But, if Disney can't make Disney+ profitable, then no one can make a giant, original content factory profitable through streaming. And they even lucked out by getting Bluey.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:57 PM (GBKbO)

156 I don't think "but we need the money" is going to persuade a lot of people to become customers. The theater owners and studios aren't in control; the customers are, and they increasingly don't want to go to a theater.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:49 PM (xCA6C)

Streaming as currently set up can't make a ton of money like the studio wants it to. People aren't going to accept a constant entertainment bill of any real size long term. They will pick one, and the cheapest one aside from rare big events. This won't float the bloated studio administrative wing and the hordes of hangers on and never will.

I agree, but that doesn't mean they'll go back to theaters. Perhaps it will be more of an a la carte model.

I think the real story here is that the studios are figuring out that they are a business, and they can't keep doing things the way they used to. They're going to have to go on a severe financial diet.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 04:57 PM (xCA6C)

157 “ So, Ace should only post Trump news? The story that started the day isn't enough? The stories from yesterday weren't enough?

I guess you have a great handle on what makes a great blog. You should start one.

Give us the link so we can constantly talk politics all of the time.”

Used to love Ace but his Trump hate did me in. He’ll probably block me now.

Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 04:53 PM

Charles johnson is that you? Flouncing is a thing that you do.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2024 04:58 PM (QNSds)

158 Oh, absolutely.

I'm looking for them to start listening from 25 years ago.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 04:56 PM (McPjL)
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Whoops, that wasn't a reply to you.

I should give up posting for now.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 04:58 PM (krQz2)

159 I hate traditional vacations in general. I don't get the "I've got a week off, let's spend it being frantic" mentality. So, even if the hotel was good at doing what it promised (it wasn't), it would just be soulcrushingly awful experience for me.

Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (cNrpt)

I am that way too, but I make an exception for the day trips some major cities have where they bus you to a few nearby sites, provide admission and give lunch for a flat fee. I did several of those out of London on vacations and felt the convenience of seeing several interesting places outweighed the downside of being shepherded by someone else.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 04:58 PM (eoQWY)

160 But for $3000 a night, when the app is at the very center of the "experience" they've promised you, you'd think that maybe...
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM

At that price, each guest room could have a "cast member" act as a narrator and walk around with a scroll of what adventure happens next if the app breaks down.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 31, 2024 04:58 PM (yOPBE)

161 Not only does Nitya Ramen not want to punish thieves -- she even voted against a provision that would require proof-of-lawful-purchase for anyone attempting to sell a used catalytic converter. She is affirmatively fighting to keep this crime viable.

You are making an assumption that Democrat officials and organized crime members are separate. They are not.

I guarantee the same group stealing local product is also working with the local Dem officials.

There was another CA story where some feminist state senator noted soliciting an underaged hooker was not a felony and found pretty much her whole political party wanted to keep it that way. Why?

They are either clients or getting paid by the people putting kids on the streets...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2024 04:59 PM (ibTVg)

162 pretty obvious MaxiPad here was just shirring stit.

Posted by: obvious troll is obvious at May 31, 2024 04:59 PM (gKWVE)

163 My friend that works for a streaming giant told me she felt guilty that she complaining for being really busy at work when she should be thankful that she still had a job, so many other people are losing theirs.

I had schadenfruede.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2024 04:59 PM (uHd5d)

164 this fucking moron is the same type of guy who screamed that RON DESANTIS SHOULD BE SENDING STATE TROOPERS TO FIGHT THE FBI AT MAR-A-LAGO!!! AAAAARGH! I'M A LUNATIC WITH ZERO IMPACT ON THE WORLD WHO WANTS TO SCREAM AT PEOPLE TO *JUST DO SOMETHING*!!!

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

165 It's weird having nearly a quarter of my pre-tax income poofing away before even the tax man sees it. I mean, he'll see his share eventually, but still.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)

I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions get nationalized to support social security.
I keep getting told it is impossible to do, but the same people told me that mortgage backed securities were bullet proof . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (D7oie)

166 In other happy news, the WSJ is laying off people again.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (ZdexC)

167 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (T4tVD)

168 So what's with the stock market today ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (Akjoo)

169 168 So what's with the stock market today ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (Akjoo)

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It's fake and gay?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

170
Once the oldsters kick the bucket, no one will go to movie theaters any longer.

They will be turned into State museums to showcase how far we have come since The Color Revolution with displays, art and paper mache displays of Donald Trump in handcuffs and Barack Mugabe calming the Seas.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

They will be used as euthanasia centers as in Soylent Green.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (63Dwl)

171 There was another CA story where some feminist state senator noted soliciting an underaged hooker was not a felony and found pretty much her whole political party wanted to keep it that way. Why?

There's nothing left but our friendship.

Posted by: Tom Hagen at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (vtRd1)

172 My friend that works for a streaming giant told me she felt guilty that she complaining for being really busy at work when she should be thankful that she still had a job, so many other people are losing theirs.

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That's a weird thing to think in the best economy ever Jack.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (RRLgz)

173 It's fake and gay?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

I'm starting to think so.. At least the fake part

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (Akjoo)

174 This site has lost its way,
Posted by: Maximillian

I question the veracity of this statement. Saying the site has lost its way implies that Max has been around for awhile. Anyone that has knows that posting something along the lines of his comment is a sure invitation to prolonged, profane abuse.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (xCA6C)

175 Maxipad has a little bit of point. Disney, Disney, Disney. But when's the last time Ace posted about lace wigs. Fuck that guy, and his crocs.

Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (cNrpt)

176 164 this fucking moron is the same type of guy who screamed that RON DESANTIS SHOULD BE SENDING STATE TROOPERS TO FIGHT THE FBI AT MAR-A-LAGO!!! AAAAARGH! I'M A LUNATIC WITH ZERO IMPACT ON THE WORLD WHO WANTS TO SCREAM AT PEOPLE TO *JUST DO SOMETHING*!!!

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

Yep. Just what the hell am I supposed to “do” about it anyway??? Get upset? Okay… bitch and complain? Yeah, okay… fix anything?? That’s a bit tricky.

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (PCK5/)

177 >>>At that price, each guest room could have a "cast member" act as a narrator and walk around with a scroll of what adventure happens next if the app breaks down.

I mean, yeah. They didn't even have some kind of monitoring system to detect when the system was failing to register any inputs or interactions from a guest at all.

It has to be stressed that the whole justification for this exorbitant price was that you would be put into "your very own star wars adventure!" and would be assigned missions by real-life star wars characters who would meet you in out-of-the-way places to scheme.

Take that away, and this was just a very small hotel with all-included "star wars themed food" and a silly, cheap dinner show.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (KRtlO)

178 175 Maxipad has a little bit of point. Disney, Disney, Disney. But when's the last time Ace posted about lace wigs. Fuck that guy, and his crocs.
Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (cNrpt)

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I demand a follow up about Kaboom!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (GBKbO)

179 I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions get nationalized to support social security.
I keep getting told it is impossible to do, but the same people told me that mortgage backed securities were bullet proof . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (D7oie)

Say What!?!

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (AwYPR)

180 Wait. Is Fucking Moron higher than just a standard Moron?

Is there an application process?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (vtRd1)

181 >>>Goodbye, you fucking loser moron with nothing going for you but a crush on a 76 year old man.

77. Turning 78 in #twoweeks.

Posted by: BearCocaine at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (yShoa)

182 I wrote this on my white board at the office:

"Puberty is that awkward phase between infantry and adultery."

interested to see what happens. (full disclosure: my Dad loved that play on words)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (hZc6Q)

183 The biggest reason is that the theater experience makes more money for studios than streaming does. They need it to thrive. They thought they could kill it, and then they realized how much they needed it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin

I have seen a TON of movies at the theater, from silly matinees when I was a kid, to multi hour epics on a big screen. I saw "2001: A Space Odyssey" in Cinerama as a 12 year old in 1968 (many don't know what Cinerama is, because it is now gone), which was an incredible visual experience, regardless of what you thought of it as a movie.
Going to a movie, in a dark room, watching a story unfold with a roomful of strangers (largely) is a hallmark of a real civilization.
The movies today mostly stink, or are pandering remakes of the originals.
Our so-called civilization is crumbling right in front of our eyes.
Star Wars. What a silly concept, yet George Lucas became incredibly wealthy pushing that.
Have you ever seen "The Hidden Fortress", which Star Wars (A New Hope) was allegedly based on?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (vcOmj)

184 At that price, each guest room could have a "cast member" act as a narrator and walk around with a scroll of what adventure happens next if the app breaks down.

At that price, vintage Sophie Marceau and oral sex better be on the menu.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)

185 >>>Yep. Just what the hell am I supposed to “do” about it anyway??? Get upset? Okay… bitch and complain? Yeah, okay… fix anything?? That’s a bit tricky.

that's what I'm saying. I posted about this twice yesterday and once today. A blog runs on New News. Is there some new news I'm supposed to write about?

A lot of times what these people mean is, "I want you to give the Go-Code for the Boogaloo Rebellion." That's what most of these Keyboard Kommandos are really getting at.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

186
I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions get nationalized to support social security.

Do you want my house, too?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (63Dwl)

187 * no comment *

Posted by: zombie Calvin Coolidge at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (a3Q+t)

188 183 Have you ever seen "The Hidden Fortress", which Star Wars (A New Hope) was allegedly based on?
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (vcOmj)

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Of course. I did a full Kurosawa run a couple of years back.

It's good stuff, and Kurosawa's first widescreen film. Fills the frame beautifully the first time out. Compare that to Ford's first widescreen film, The Long Gray Line, a nice film with so much dead space on either side of the frame.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (GBKbO)

189 Welp, I guess I’m banned. Must’ve been something I said.
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (cuS3i)

And yet you’re posting ? Not much of a ban.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (SHMXB)

190 The bear is loose!

(wasn't that some weird gay thing with Obama?)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (RRLgz)

191 This is fairly normal, in my experience, in the hospitality industry specifically. The more you pay, the less you get. You pay a lot for the fancy room in the swank hotel, and then get nickled-and-dimed for the rest of the stay.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (d04cU)

I disagree. I think it is dependent on the chain, and the high-end independents are often incredibly generous with their amenities...

What is always shocking is the food and booze available in the room for people who don't feel like walking 37 seconds to the hotel restaurant or bar.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (d9fT1)

192 It has to be stressed that the whole justification for this exorbitant price was that you would be put into "your very own star wars adventure!" and would be assigned missions by real-life star wars characters who would meet you in out-of-the-way places to scheme.

Take that away, and this was just a very small hotel with all-included "star wars themed food" and a silly, cheap dinner show.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:02 PM (KRtlO)

A fool and his money...

Wtf mission could you have expected? What did they honestly think this would be? Go freaking play some laser tag and make pew pew sounds when you hit the trigger. There, just saved you $5,975.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (KbCG3)

193 168 So what's with the stock market today ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (Akjoo)

Huh. Hadn't really noticed anything, but after being mostly down all day it rebounded in the last hour or so to close on a positive note. Nothing obvious to cause that.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (oCS0o)

194 I always explain to the Keyboard Kommandos that if they're serious about their Red Dawn fantasies, they will get OFF public social media and begin speaking only with members of their Revolutionary Cadre using secure means, usually face-to-face or with burner phones.

But no, they're fucking idiots, they think the Boogaloo Revolution will be planned as a Group Activity on blogs, with bloggers and commenters debating various assassination and kidnapping plans.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

195 This is fairly normal, in my experience, in the hospitality industry specifically. The more you pay, the less you get. You pay a lot for the fancy room in the swank hotel, and then get nickled-and-dimed for the rest of the stay.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2024 04:38 PM (d04cU)

I disagree. I think it is dependent on the chain, and the high-end independents are often incredibly generous with their amenities...

That is also my experience.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 05:06 PM (xCA6C)

196 184 At that price, each guest room could have a "cast member" act as a narrator and walk around with a scroll of what adventure happens next if the app breaks down.

At that price, vintage Sophie Marceau and oral sex better be on the menu.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)

"Hey, what's that ewok doing here? Ah!" - Guy that got blown by an ewok

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 31, 2024 05:06 PM (KbCG3)

197 194 I always explain to the Keyboard Kommandos that if they're serious about their Red Dawn fantasies, they will get OFF public social media and begin speaking only with members of their Revolutionary Cadre using secure means, usually face-to-face or with burner phones.

But no, they're fucking idiots, they think the Boogaloo Revolution will be planned as a Group Activity on blogs, with bloggers and commenters debating various assassination and kidnapping plans.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

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But what about the Red Dwarf scenario?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:06 PM (GBKbO)

198 At that price, vintage Sophie Marceau and oral sex better be on the menu.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM

I'm sorry, Sir. You want the Castle Anthrax experience.

Posted by: C3PO at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (a3Q+t)

199 But, if Disney can't make Disney+ profitable, then no one can make a giant, original content factory profitable through streaming. And they even lucked out by getting Bluey.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:57 PM (GBKbO)

Content is absurdly cheap these days. YT is full of it, home made by guys with 1 or 2 cameras. Some of these make documentaries as good or better than those on TV. Tech has advanced that far. What that doesn't need is a big overhead of well paid drones trying to sell an ideology, and those people are in charge of the studios. Cut deals with other streamers to show their content too at a marginal added cost.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (eoQWY)

200 Good, a Disney post! I enjoy reading these and it's good to take my mind off of other things that I'd rather not think about right now.

I simply cannot imaging spending $6000/night for a hotel room. I'd blanche at having to spend $6000 for an entire vacation.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (XPM1I)

201 So what's with the stock market today ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:01 PM (Akjoo)

Huh. Hadn't really noticed anything, but after being mostly down all day it rebounded in the last hour or so to close on a positive note. Nothing obvious to cause that.

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Because it's not real. Those are hedge fund algorithms triggering other algorithms to make money and then take new positions. It was confirmed that the white house contacts the big boys with news about potential problems before it is released so they can act accordingly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (RRLgz)

202 >>>Wtf mission could you have expected? What did they honestly think this would be? Go freaking play some laser tag and make pew pew sounds when you hit the trigger. There, just saved you $5,975.

apparently most missions involved "smuggling luggage" into the "cargo hold." Though you also could rat out Chewbacca or "break him out of the brig."

Jenny Nicholson actually got assigned that randomly, even though she tried and tried to get recruited by the imperials. When she showed up five minutes early for the "break Chewbacca out of the brig" mission, she discovered it was already over and had begun 15 minutes earlier than the stated time.

I mean...

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

203 Between Netflix, Amazon Prime, and a bookcase (small, admitedly) of DVDs I have no need of any Hollywood product. I went to three movies last summer. Two were awful ( thank you, Kathleen Kennedy) and the third wasn't too bad, but not good enough to make me want to go to the movies this summer.

Posted by: Livia Drusilla at May 31, 2024 05:08 PM (zbGp6)

204 Content is absurdly cheap these days. YT is full of it, home made by guys with 1 or 2 cameras. Some of these make documentaries as good or better than those on TV. Tech has advanced that far. What that doesn't need is a big overhead of well paid drones trying to sell an ideology, and those people are in charge of the studios. Cut deals with other streamers to show their content too at a marginal added cost.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (eoQWY)

Have you seen some of the sci-fi stuff that Corridor Crew is putting on on YT? Not quite Hollywood level, but for a dozen guys working with off the shelf stuff it's impressive.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 31, 2024 05:08 PM (oCS0o)

205 Jenny releasing this now is odd. It would have actually mattered a year ago.

Eh, she liked the Disney reboot Star Wars so she lost a lot of cred in my eyes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:08 PM (xcxpd)

206 199 Content is absurdly cheap these days. YT is full of it, home made by guys with 1 or 2 cameras. Some of these make documentaries as good or better than those on TV. Tech has advanced that far. What that doesn't need is a big overhead of well paid drones trying to sell an ideology, and those people are in charge of the studios. Cut deals with other streamers to show their content too at a marginal added cost.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (eoQWY)

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I think the only streaming model that makes sense (without being an approximate open forum like Youtube) is the curator method. Criterion and Shudder are (mostly) like this. I think Shudder's been paying for some original content, but it may be more like buying stuff at festivals than paying for production (which can represent different levels of investment).

It's mostly a licensing cost to maintain along with the tech. That feels like a much smaller financial burden than original content every month.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:09 PM (GBKbO)

207
Joe: "No one is above the law."

Hunter: Except us, pops.

Posted by: Duncanthrax (channelling his inner Col. Kurz) at May 31, 2024 05:09 PM (a3Q+t)

208 Welp, I guess I’m banned. Must’ve been something I said.
Posted by: Maximillian at May 31, 2024 05:03 PM (cuS3i)

And yet you’re posting ? Not much of a ban.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (SHMXB)
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I am dissappoint.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 05:09 PM (qj7zO)

209 apparently most missions involved "smuggling luggage" into the "cargo hold." Though you also could rat out Chewbacca or "break him out of the brig."

At six thousand bucks I'd at least expect a mission that involved Princess Leia, a bikini and a leash.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:09 PM (vtRd1)

210 There was a story a few months ago about a private company selling tickets to a Willie Wonka Chocolate Factory experience. It was a bouncy house in a warehouse with about a dozen fake cardboard lollipops spread out . Hilarious and infuriating to those who bought high priced tickets. I think the company reimbursed the ticket holders IIRC.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (SHMXB)

211 What is always shocking is the food and booze available in the room for people who don't feel like walking 37 seconds to the hotel restaurant or bar.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM

Some hotels go above and beyond in the service category. We were on vacation and the hotel set up a day trip. The guide took our picture and when we got back to the hotel the photo they took was in the room, framed with a nice note and a bottle of wine. Sometimes the small details matter and you remember those kind of things.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (uHd5d)

212 Jenny Nicholson actually got assigned that randomly, even though she tried and tried to get recruited by the imperials. When she showed up five minutes early for the "break Chewbacca out of the brig" mission, she discovered it was already over and had begun 15 minutes earlier than the stated time.

I mean...
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

They were like, "Oh, you were serious about this mission stuff?"

This is all so bizarre to me.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (KbCG3)

213 When she showed up five minutes early for the "break Chewbacca out of the brig" mission, she discovered it was already over and had begun 15 minutes earlier than the stated time.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

This makes me a bad person, but I laughed a lot at this.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (XPM1I)

214 I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions get nationalized to support social security.
I keep getting told it is impossible to do, but the same people told me that mortgage backed securities were bullet proof . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:00 PM (D7oie)

crap

"I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions DON'T get nationalized"

sorry to be a typo prone idiot. I am not trolling

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (D7oie)

215 Until there is some kind of news regarding the Trump verdict there's no point in re-hashing what we know..Makes anger and tediousness....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (Akjoo)

216 It's good stuff, and Kurosawa's first widescreen film. Fills the frame beautifully the first time out. Compare that to Ford's first widescreen film, The Long Gray Line, a nice film with so much dead space on either side of the frame.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin

"The Long Gray Line" is such a sentimental movie, harkening back to an era where such men were thought of as icons to be looked up to.
Funny, I was looking on Roku for "The Unforgiven" (Clint Eastwood), and found a Japanese version of it (reverse Kurosawa!) about the same premise, moved to Japan and brought forward in time.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (vcOmj)

217 Might I suggest the Ewok Balls en croûte, monsieur??

Posted by: disney hotel waiter at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (ZdexC)

218 205 Jenny releasing this now is odd. It would have actually mattered a year ago.

Eh, she liked the Disney reboot Star Wars so she lost a lot of cred in my eyes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:08 PM (xcxpd)

I had the opposite reaction. She's drunk the Kool-Aid so much she's an addict. She probably has a tramp stamp that says OH YEAH! But they finally made a dog food even she would not eat.

Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 05:11 PM (cNrpt)

219 Might I suggest the Ewok Balls en croûte, monsieur??
Posted by: disney hotel waiter at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (ZdexC)

Bring me a bucket.

Posted by: Mr. Creosote at May 31, 2024 05:11 PM (vtRd1)

220 I haven't been to a theater since they closed the Culver City drive-in cinema in 1993. Good riddance, fuckos!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2024 05:11 PM (dmXQN)

221 When she showed up five minutes early for the "break Chewbacca out of the brig" mission, she discovered it was already over and had begun 15 minutes earlier than the stated time

You have rather high expectations for a peon who is only paying $6000?

Posted by: Bob Iger at May 31, 2024 05:11 PM (yOPBE)

222 I was finally able to order my 4K limited edition of Crimson Peak from Arrow.

Should be here by the end of next week along with 4Ks of Exorcist III, the original Italian Job, eXistenz, and Witness.

Happy birthday to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (GBKbO)

223 I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions get nationalized to support social security.

Do you want my house, too?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (63Dwl)

Really....I've got a pension that I worked 40 years for...I draw SS...that I contributed to for 45 years...I've got a 401k/IRA that I haven't had to tap yet...I've got a paid for house and property cause I didn't piss my earnings away on frivolous things....if someone tries to take them away...somebody...besides me..is gonna' get hurt.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (AwYPR)

224 maybe this was the pretext Iger used to get Chapek fired -- wasn't he in charge of parks before becoming CEO (for nine months)?

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

225 Joe: "No one is above the law."

Hunter: Except us, pops.
Posted by: Duncanthrax (channelling his inner Col. Kurz)

Damn straight!

Posted by: Joe Biden....President Meat Puppet at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (vcOmj)

226 215 Until there is some kind of news regarding the Trump verdict there's no point in re-hashing what we know..Makes anger and tediousness....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (Akjoo)

All you, or I, can or will do about it is seethe and brood… I have a daily allotment of seething and brooding, I am topped off for the day…

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (PCK5/)

227 Spending money like that is obscene.

Posted by: Coki at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (Wkrcf)

228 224 maybe this was the pretext Iger used to get Chapek fired -- wasn't he in charge of parks before becoming CEO (for nine months)?
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

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I thought the pretext was Chapek not fighting the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida hard enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:13 PM (GBKbO)

229 Last movie I went to see in a theater was Keanu at a mid week mid day matinee. I was the only one in the theater.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:13 PM (SHMXB)

230 Sidebar re Beekeeper - fun movie, just pay no attention to the plotholes

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 31, 2024 05:13 PM (P5Da8)

231 I watched Jenny's video yesterday after it showed up on my recommendations list on YouTube.

I thought I'd watch a few minutes and get a laugh out of it and stop, but honestly, she had me hooked from the start and I ended up watching the whole thing in three sections over the course of about 8 hours.

She nails Disney hard, but in a surprisingly honest, kind, funny way, combined with a very analytical approach about the whole failed endeavor from start to finish.

And she's cute and nice and sweet and snarky and on occasions, mad as hell...

I laughed my ass off at the fact they sat her and her sister behind a pole during the dinner service so she couldn't watch the live alien singer performance which was like the second biggest show after the finale. She ends the video by giving Disney one last ribbing for doing that to her.

She had me at the Porg costume, and I had to look up that name.

Posted by: WhatACoincidence at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (6ydKt)

232 >>>I thought the pretext was Chapek not fighting the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida hard enough.

well that was part of it, but it would be nice to have an actual business reason to scheme to get him fired.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (KRtlO)

233 maybe this was the pretext Iger used to get Chapek fired -- wasn't he in charge of parks before becoming CEO (for nine months)?
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

I heard that the Galactic Clusterfark and the Galaxy's Edge (non-Star Wars) design were solely the brainchildren of the estimable Kathleen Kennedy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (vtRd1)

234 Do you want my house, too?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:04 PM (63Dwl)

I am an idiot who can't proof before hitting post.
Yell at me all you want, but not for wanting people to lose everything to the government

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (D7oie)

235 222 I was finally able to order my 4K limited edition of Crimson Peak from Arrow.

Should be here by the end of next week along with 4Ks of Exorcist III, the original Italian Job, eXistenz, and Witness.

Happy birthday to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (GBKbO)

And to JJ Sefton

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (xcxpd)

236 232 >>>I thought the pretext was Chapek not fighting the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida hard enough.

well that was part of it, but it would be nice to have an actual business reason to scheme to get him fired.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (KRtlO)

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With this board of directors? "He's trying to make us more money" would be a good enough reason at this point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM (GBKbO)

237 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (GBKbO)

But seriously, if it is your birthday, Happy Birthday.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (xcxpd)

238 The coworker who walked with the actor to his car and encountered the thieves said that the actor was calm about it, and had his hands open in peace. I took this to mean he showed he had no weapon and wasn't going to physically confront anyone, a smart move when dealing with thugs, muggers, car thieves, etc.

Posted by: Coki at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (Wkrcf)

239 But for $3000 a night, when the app is at the very center of the "experience" they've promised you, you'd think that maybe...
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 04:52 PM

At that price, each guest room could have a "cast member" act as a narrator and walk around with a scroll of what adventure happens next if the app breaks down.
Posted by: Chuck C at May 31, 2024 04:58 PM (yOPBE)
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At that price, they better guarantee that every personal story comes with a "happy ending."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (BpYfr)

240 Should be here by the end of next week along with 4Ks of Exorcist III, the original Italian Job, eXistenz, and Witness.

Happy birthday to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM

You do have the 4K Director's Cut of Prometheus, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax (channelling his inner Col. Kurz) at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (a3Q+t)

241 237 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (GBKbO)

But seriously, if it is your birthday, Happy Birthday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (xcxpd)

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Well, next next Monday. Just buying my own presents here, boss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (GBKbO)

242 When she showed up five minutes early for the "break Chewbacca out of the brig" mission, she discovered it was already over and had begun 15 minutes earlier than the stated time.
Posted by: ace

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She should've asked to speak to the woman in charge.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (LijfE)

243 Happy birthday to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin

Happy Birthday James Monroe !

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (T4tVD)

244 Nicholson is a hardcore Disney shill. She was a full throated defender of The Last Jedi. EFAP roasted her in a 12 hour video and all her fans lost their minds at "How dare they spend 12 hours attacking a girl!"

So the fact of her just slamming the Star Wars hotel is glorious schadenfreude. I did not watch her video instead I watched Drunk3P0's 7 hour breakdown of her video.

Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (aRLgQ)

245 240 You do have the 4K Director's Cut of Prometheus, correct?
Posted by: Duncanthrax (channelling his inner Col. Kurz) at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (a3Q+t)

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I have actually never picked up the 4K. I have the 3D Blu-ray, though I've never had a 3D TV.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (GBKbO)

246 237 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (GBKbO)

But seriously, if it is your birthday, Happy Birthday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (xcxpd)

How old is he now, like 250?..

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (PCK5/)

247 Which is better Disney Orlando or Universal ?

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (SHMXB)

248 ... a smart move when dealing with thugs, muggers, car thieves, etc.
Posted by: Coki at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (Wkrcf)

but it didn't work.

Posted by: Coki at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (Wkrcf)

249 Have you seen some of the sci-fi stuff that Corridor Crew is putting on on YT? Not quite Hollywood level, but for a dozen guys working with off the shelf stuff it's impressive.
Posted by: Octochicken at May 31, 2024 05:08 PM (oCS0o)

No, but I'll check it out. Plus, one of my favorite SF shows was the old Blake's 7 where the effects were just above the high school stage play, but the writing and acting were very good. Ditto Star Trek TOS.

I did see a Star Trek TOS-like extension series that was very close in quality to the TOS itself.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (eoQWY)

250 >>>All you, or I, can or will do about it is seethe and brood… I have a daily allotment of seething and brooding, I am topped off for the day…

i think it's Kick the Dog syndrome. Like a guy who gets reamed out by his boss but he can't talk back to his boss so he comes home and smacks his wife and kicks the dog.

They're angry at Alvin Bragg and Merchan. Join the club. But they can't do anything about that so they reach out to someone who reads the comments and yell at them to be angry.

I am angry. I'm also running a blog where the goal is to provide novel information every hour, not just keep saying the same three things over and over forever.

This isn't "Hannity."

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

251 they will get OFF public social media and begin speaking only with members of their Revolutionary Cadre using secure means, usually face-to-face or with burner phones.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

Good God, you'd trust a cadre bigger than yourself? I wouldn't trust anyone I haven't known about for ten years, who is capable of communicating through normal and currently well-established meetings.

But the extremists have value all their own. And a whole social media sphere to meet- TruthSocial, Rumble, other sites. They'll be just fine.

Now, people relying on anonymity from an urban setting, they'll have a worse time of it, but I'll let them worry about them.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (AKKkq)

252 He came upon them as he was walking a lady to her car and asked them what they were doing because he honestly didn't understand what was going on. They shot him for stumbling upon them.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

But for a catalytic converter on a Prius Hybrid? I mean, they're really small converters. Not that much platinum and palladium in them. Steal a converter off of an F-150.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (vcOmj)

253 250 They're angry at Alvin Bragg and Merchan. Join the club. But they can't do anything about that so they reach out to someone who reads the comments and yell at them to be angry.

I am angry. I'm also running a blog where the goal is to provide novel information every hour, not just keep saying the same three things over and over forever.

This isn't "Hannity."
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

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Time for the return of the Book Club!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (GBKbO)

254 >>>247 Which is better Disney Orlando or Universal ?

the theme park bloggers all seem to say that Universal has stepped up and is now Disney's equal. But I listen to anti-Disney people so they might all just be very biased.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

255 "I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions DON'T get nationalized"

sorry to be a typo prone idiot. I am not trolling

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (D7oie)

I wish you wouldn't do that.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (AwYPR)

256 So the fact of her just slamming the Star Wars hotel is glorious schadenfreude. I did not watch her video instead I watched Drunk3P0's 7 hour breakdown of her video.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM (aRLgQ)

I'll wait for Red Letter Media to release a 15-hour analysis of Drunk 3PO's 7-hour breakdown of Nicholson's four-hour video.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (vtRd1)

257 Time for the return of the Book Club!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Stay in your lane, Movie Guy!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (BpYfr)

258 I'm also running a blog where the goal is to provide novel information every hour, not just keep saying the same three things over and over forever.

This isn't "Hannity."
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

We also appreciate elbows and movie reviews from you too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (xcxpd)

259 >>>Time for the return of the Book Club!

let me finish Hound of the Baskervilles and I'll pencil it in.

I should finish that up right after Phas3

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (KRtlO)

260 I am angry. I'm also running a blog where the goal is to provide novel information every hour, not just keep saying the same three things over and over forever.

This isn't "Hannity."
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

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Time for the return of the Book Club!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:17

Don't do the Gainzzz thing... I'm ashamed about my recent eating habits.. LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (Akjoo)

261 I am angry. I'm also running a blog where the goal is to provide novel information every hour, not just keep saying the same three things over and over forever.

I read that as "navel information"

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (T4tVD)

262 Yell at me all you want
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:14 PM

What, a pre-Pride Month Festivus Festival?

Ok, I'll start.

YOU REALLY DISAPPOINTED ACE 10 WEEKS AGO!!!! WHY D'JA DO IT?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (a3Q+t)

263 254 >>>247 Which is better Disney Orlando or Universal ?

the theme park bloggers all seem to say that Universal has stepped up and is now Disney's equal. But I listen to anti-Disney people so they might all just be very biased.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

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I prefer Universal, but they're really for different audiences.

Disney is very much more kiddie. Universal is more like a teen-centric experience. It's more thrill than Disney.

My experience has also been that the crowds at Universal are easier to deal with.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (GBKbO)

264 At that price, they better guarantee that every personal story comes with a "happy ending."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2024 05:15 PM

It's based on the sequels. Your female choices are Rey, Adm. Holdo, or Rose Tico. There is no slave Leia.

(Why do I know these character names? My last SW movie was Ep I, which I almost walked out of)

Posted by: Chuck C at May 31, 2024 05:19 PM (yOPBE)

265 "I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions DON'T get nationalized"

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No need to.

They're worth half of their 2020 value already. By 2030 they'll be at 25% of the 2020 value.

There is no real point in seizing the money unless you just want to stick it to whitey.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 31, 2024 05:19 PM (LijfE)

266 259 >>>Time for the return of the Book Club!

let me finish Hound of the Baskervilles and I'll pencil it in.

I should finish that up right after Phas3
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (KRtlO)

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Shouldn't be much longer now, right?

A line a day? Just like Virgil?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:19 PM (GBKbO)

267 Die Mouse Die 🐁 🔪

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 05:19 PM (fwDg9)

268 263

I prefer Universal, but they're really for different audiences.

Disney is very much more kiddie. Universal is more like a teen-centric experience. It's more thrill than Disney.

My experience has also been that the crowds at Universal are easier to deal with.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (GBKbO)

Wingardium Leviosa, dammit!!!

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:19 PM (PCK5/)

269 "It's the same problem as scripted, and it's really depressing," says one veteran reality executive."

Not one of these whores have the common sense to understand that as long as they make shit normies don't want to watch, then normies won't watch the woke shit.

They call all go eat a bag of dicks, then die in a fire.

Anyway. What's for dinner?

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (MsrgL)

270 He came upon them as he was walking a lady to her car and asked them what they were doing because he honestly didn't understand what was going on. They shot him for stumbling upon them.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

I think it was reported that he stepped in front of the lady to protect her also. So we lost an innocent and a true gentleman.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (oaGWv)

271 Which is better Disney Orlando or Universal ?

the theme park bloggers all seem to say that Universal has stepped up and is now Disney's equal. But I listen to anti-Disney people so they might all just be very biased.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

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I prefer Universal, but they're really for different audiences.

Disney is very much more kiddie. Universal is more like a teen-centric experience. It's more thrill than Disney.

My experience has also been that the crowds at Universal are easier to deal with.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (GBKbO)

Universal Florida has butterbeer, hot and cold, alcoholic and not. Advantage to them. But Disney has better landscaping.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (xcxpd)

272 Her skirt was too short so he had to rape the catalytic converter?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (MvM3W)

273 "I hope the 401K and IRAs and pensions DON'T get nationalized"

sorry to be a typo prone idiot. I am not trolling
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:10 PM (D7oie)

The good news is that hoping won't matter one way or the other.

The bad news is that people relying on electronic non-crypto wealth may as well hand it over to the regime in a suitcase.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (AKKkq)

274
Was one of the SW fantasy roles the assignment to pick up the scores of corpses left behind by an angry Darth Vader? 'Cause that would really suck -- do not complain or you will be the next "package".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (oqu0U)

275 This isn't "Hannity."

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

Amen for that.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (AwYPR)

276 271 Universal Florida has butterbeer, hot and cold, alcoholic and not. Advantage to them. But Disney has better landscaping.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (xcxpd)

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I've never seen Butterbeer sold alcoholic. Maybe it's in one of the restaurants and you have to ask for it.

Still, it's better to bring in a water bottle of vodka, pour that in until it's about a quarter vodka, and have a good time.

Dolley and I have done that twice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (GBKbO)

277
#learntoUber

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (oqu0U)

278 I’m sure Nicholson’s video is good. But it’s not necessary to watch to fully understand how cheap and cheaply pathetic this woefully-named “Galactic Cruiser” was. How do I know? Because Disney’s own promotional video for the shitfest makes that clear.

And what’s with the name? Disney had the full SW universe to draw from, and they chose that banal stupidity? They would have been much better off naming it after a ship in one of the movies, best of all one of the imperial ships.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (L7q0f)

279 Which is better Disney Orlando or Universal ?

the theme park bloggers all seem to say that Universal has stepped up and is now Disney's equal. But I listen to anti-Disney people so they might all just be very biased.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

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I prefer Universal, but they're really for different audiences.

Disney is very much more kiddie. Universal is more like a teen-centric experience. It's more thrill than Disney.

My experience has also been that the crowds at Universal are easier to deal with.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:18 PM (GBKbO)

I asked because I’ve read that their Harry Potter attraction is top notch. I’m not a Potter fan so meh but I do like that their attractions are all movie themed obviously.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (SHMXB)

280 OT---

But I've got an idea.

Fuck Joe Biden Day.

Pick a Sat or Sunday coming up in June and invite everyone to the Whitehouse to yell "Fuck Joe Biden" as long as they want. Doesn't even have to be the WH. The Mall is good. Maybe the sacred steps to the Capitol.

Make it a party. Bring your kids.

Posted by: Delta Dan at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (QB+5g)

281 *throws things*

FML

Veep Kamala Harris is going to be in MY FUCKING NEIGHBORHOOD TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (W2Pud)

282 278 I’m sure Nicholson’s video is good. But it’s not necessary to watch to fully understand how cheap and cheaply pathetic this woefully-named “Galactic Cruiser” was. How do I know? Because Disney’s own promotional video for the shitfest makes that clear.

And what’s with the name? Disney had the full SW universe to draw from, and they chose that banal stupidity? They would have been much better off naming it after a ship in one of the movies, best of all one of the imperial ships.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (L7q0f)

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I still wonder if it would have been better had it been like other Disney resorts: you know, outside.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (GBKbO)

283 >>>This isn't "Hannity."

Posted by: ace

>The Hannity of Spades has a nice ring to it.

Don't ban me, just busting you chops.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (dmXQN)

284 Off sock

Posted by: pawn at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (QB+5g)

285 No need to.

They're worth half of their 2020 value already. By 2030 they'll be at 25% of the 2020 value.

There is no real point in seizing the money unless you just want to stick it to whitey.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger

I put a large amount of my employer 401K into a precious metals IRA a little over a year ago.
Gold prices went down for a few months, bottoming out around Oct 1.
Ask me how I feel about this today?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (vcOmj)

286 the theme park bloggers all seem to say that Universal has stepped up and is now Disney's equal. But I listen to anti-Disney people so they might all just be very biased.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

Well also remember, Universal is getting Nintendo, a bigger Harry Potter land, I think things like How to Train Your Dragon, and a Universal Monsters land. Disney, turned Splash Mountain into a shitty swamp because racism, and neutered Pirates of the Caribbean.

Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (aRLgQ)

287 There is evidence for that: Publicly-available information for wait times at Disney rides reveals that very few people were in the park on Memorial Day, one of the biggest amusement park days of the year. In this clip, they discuss rides that often have waits of an hour or more having barely any wait time at all -- sometimes no more than it physically takes to walk from an attraction's entrance to the actual attraction.

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Last year our family was talking about vacations and the kids brought up going to Disney World. The last time we were there was about 16 years ago. I wouldn't want to go because of the woke stuff but I told my wife and kids that I would check it out. After getting the ticket pricing I told them no way it will happen. The price was about $2000 for six people for TWO days. That didn't include food or any other spending. Fuck that.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (2fIO4)

288 Which is better Disney Orlando or Universal ?
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:16 PM (SHMXB)

Any I-4 Overpass with Johnny Methcook and Lisa Glasspipe doing the horizontal tango while Joe Shit The Ragman does play by play.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 05:23 PM (R/m4+)

289 279 I asked because I’ve read that their Harry Potter attraction is top notch. I’m not a Potter fan so meh but I do like that their attractions are all movie themed obviously.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (SHMXB)

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Yeah, it's probably the best part of the parks. Both parks, really, though I do love the Velocicoaster in Islands of Adventure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:23 PM (GBKbO)

290 And what’s with the name? Disney had the full SW universe to draw from, and they chose that banal stupidity? They would have been much better off naming it after a ship in one of the movies, best of all one of the imperial ships.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (L7q0f)
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Hmmm....

"I'm not a Grand Admiral, but I did stay at Chimaera Inn last night."

Has a nice ring to it....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2024 05:23 PM (BpYfr)

291 Over the weekend, an actor appearing on General Hospital saw some Gentle Giants Who Were Starting Their Rap Careers screwing with his car.

When he intervened, they murdered him.

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Sounds like these catalytic converters are more worth killing for than even Air Jordans!

Posted by: ShainS -- 'Guilty Until Proven Guilty' Future 'Convicted Felon' at May 31, 2024 05:23 PM (QjjcC)

292 Time for the return of the Book Club!

let me finish Hound of the Baskervilles and I'll pencil it in.

I should finish that up right after Phas3
Posted by: ace

Still working on The Hound ace? When you finish let us know. We've been waiting patiently for a long time. A little longer won't won't hurt.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 05:23 PM (oaGWv)

293 Veep Kamala Harris is going to be in MY FUCKING NEIGHBORHOOD TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

Which street corner?

Posted by: UPGRAYED at May 31, 2024 05:23 PM (gKWVE)

294 205 Jenny releasing this now is odd. It would have actually mattered a year ago.

Eh, she liked the Disney reboot Star Wars so she lost a lot of cred in my eyes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:08 PM (xcxpd)

I had the opposite reaction. She's drunk the Kool-Aid so much she's an addict. She probably has a tramp stamp that says OH YEAH! But they finally made a dog food even she would not eat.
Posted by: 4 Hours Well Spent, Not Kidding at May 31, 2024 05:11 PM (cNrpt)

She's never really been a hot of the presses content maker that I know of, so the year delay doesn't shock me that much. I agree she has/had a lot of emotional investment in Disney stuff (witness her pilgrimage to get a giant Porg stuffed thing larger than she is), so i think your take is probably correct.

I haven't watched her latest yet myself, though I will probably.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:24 PM (eoQWY)

295 286 Well also remember, Universal is getting Nintendo, a bigger Harry Potter land, I think things like How to Train Your Dragon, and a Universal Monsters land. Disney, turned Splash Mountain into a shitty swamp because racism, and neutered Pirates of the Caribbean.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (aRLgQ)

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Epic Universe, which will be a few miles from the other two parks which are literally next door to each other with City Walk in between. Apparently there will be a bus system, or something.

They're just ramping up promotion now (I saw some merch a couple of weeks ago there), and it should be open next year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:24 PM (GBKbO)

296 @253

>>Time for the return of the Book Club!

Trying to think of the most recent book I've read, it's either Guns, Germs and Steel or something from Crichton.

Much like the movie business, there hasn't been anything of true merit in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 05:24 PM (XV/Pl)

297 "When she showed up five minutes early for the "break Chewbacca out of the brig" mission, she discovered it was already over and had begun 15 minutes earlier than the stated time.
Posted by: ace "

I had a dentist appointment and had to get out of there early.

Posted by: Chewbacca at May 31, 2024 05:25 PM (vFG9F)

298 296 Trying to think of the most recent book I've read, it's either Guns, Germs and Steel or something from Crichton.

Much like the movie business, there hasn't been anything of true merit in the last 20 years.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 05:24 PM (XV/Pl)

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I'm nearing the end of The Eyes of the Dragon.

Pure King on cocaine. Rambling, undirected, and overlong, taking what might have been a pretty good novella and stretching it to the breaking point in novel form.

Easier to read than Rob Roy, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:25 PM (GBKbO)

299 I read a lot of theology books… yeah, that boring, I am..

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:25 PM (PCK5/)

300 Disney as a corporation has actively come out against most of my core beliefs.
They offer no room for discussion or disagreement.

So *uck you bastards if you think I will spend a nickel towards anything you produce.

Go back to Bejing, traitors.

And die, slowly and painfully.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2024 05:26 PM (2ds6i)

301 I put a large amount of my employer 401K into a precious metals IRA a little over a year ago.
Gold prices went down for a few months, bottoming out around Oct 1.
Ask me how I feel about this today?
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM

Having a piece of paper that says "A. Face owns 20 oz of gold" is going to be worth as much as a pile of hundreds - nothing.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 31, 2024 05:26 PM (yOPBE)

302
It's a trap!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 31, 2024 05:27 PM (oqu0U)

303 ========

I still wonder if it would have been better had it been like other Disney resorts: you know, outside.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (GBKbO)

Nobody is sleeping outside for 6000 dollars.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:27 PM (eoQWY)

304
I am an idiot who can't proof before hitting post.
Yell at me all you want, but not for wanting people to lose everything to the government
Posted by: Kindltot

Heck, everybody makes mistakes. I sure do. Many times right here!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:27 PM (63Dwl)

305 Easier to read than Rob Roy, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:25 PM (GBKbO)

The Rob Roy the movie is based on?

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:27 PM (SHMXB)

306
Nobody is sleeping outside for 6000 dollars.
Posted by: Oldcat

Glamping

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (63Dwl)

307 I should finish that up right after Phas3
Posted by: ace

Don't forget us in your quest for unique content!

Posted by: Ph4se Planning & Pha5e Conceptualizing at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (a3Q+t)

308 305 Easier to read than Rob Roy, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:25 PM (GBKbO)

The Rob Roy the movie is based on?
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:27 PM (SHMXB)

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Rob Roy the man, Rob Roy the novel, and Rob Roy the movie have precious little to do with each other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (GBKbO)

309 Universal Florida has butterbeer, hot and cold, alcoholic and not. Advantage to them. But Disney has better landscaping.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:20 PM (xcxpd)

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I've never seen Butterbeer sold alcoholic. Maybe it's in one of the restaurants and you have to ask for it.

Still, it's better to bring in a water bottle of vodka, pour that in until it's about a quarter vodka, and have a good time.

Dolley and I have done that twice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (GBKbO)

#Wisdom

Jah, the boozy butterbeer was in one of the resturants. Good stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (xcxpd)

310 After getting the ticket pricing I told them no way it will happen. The price was about $2000 for six people for TWO days. That didn't include food or any other spending. Fuck that.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM

You can save up for the trip by starving yourselves now. And you can get a lot of money for donating plasma.

Posted by: M. Mouse at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (yOPBE)

311 244 Nicholson is a hardcore Disney shill. She was a full throated defender of The Last Jedi.

Oh, I get the impression she's seems to be a typical millennial California progressive.

I'll skip her Last Jedi vid, but I watched her review of The Rise of Skywalker and she's changed her tune obviously. She hated it, and went after that one the same way she did Star Wars Hotel.

If you're losing California 30-something women who have LOVED your product their entire lives because your constant screw-ups have ruined everything they paid good money for... well then you've lost just about everybody who put your company in the black every year.

Disney is running on the fumes of fond memories.

Posted by: WhatACoincidence at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (6ydKt)

312 Rob Roy the man, Rob Roy the novel, and Rob Roy the movie have precious little to do with each other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (GBKbO)

How about the cocktail?

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (AwYPR)

313 Movies I have watched lately…
Quigley Down Under
The Bounty
Schlindler’s List
Sixteen Candles

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (PCK5/)

314 312 Rob Roy the man, Rob Roy the novel, and Rob Roy the movie have precious little to do with each other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (GBKbO)

How about the cocktail?
Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (AwYPR)

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The cocktail and the novel are practically twins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (GBKbO)

315 Trying to think of the most recent book I've read, it's either Guns, Germs and Steel ...

... aka "Why Africa Is a Train Wreck, and It's Not Because of Africans"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (YqDXo)

316 I just re-read Tides of War by Steven Pressfield. It’s about Alcibiades and the Peloponnesian War .

History does indeed rhyme.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (SHMXB)

317 For me, Jenny's career lowlight is apologizing for having a giant stuffed Harry Potter giant spider (Aragog) and declaring, in full seriousness, that she's buying an indulgence by donating to a trans charity.

With that said, she's the matchless wunderkind in the field of incredibly painstaking exploration of a trivial cultural topic with endearingly authentic enthusiasm. She's also legitimately tolerant of other viewpoints. Her 80 minute review of a series of church plays contains maybe 2 minutes where you would know she's not a Christian.

Posted by: Funkotron at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (dV6hr)

318 Putting it at the center and not QA testing it to death feels like a mistake.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

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"QA Testing is a social construct tool of the white cisheteropatriarchal oppressor, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- 'Guilty Until Proven Guilty' Future 'Convicted Felon' at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (QjjcC)

319 @316

>>I just re-read Tides of War by Steven Pressfield. It’s about Alcibiades and the Peloponnesian War .

It came out in 2000 which proves the point that nothing of true merit has been written in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM (XV/Pl)

320 Oh, I get the impression she's seems to be a typical millennial California progressive.
_______________

Why is it progressives never make any progress?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM (YqDXo)

321 If movie theaters were going to die they would have died during covid. They came back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

Haven't been to a movie theater since 2011.
Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (AwYPR)

That's you. Many people still attend for the experience of the big screen, sound and seeing the feature with a few hundred others who enjoy movies. I still "go to the movies" in our area at least once a month. I've always been a movie fan since I was a kid back in the 50's. Hell, I even worked as a relief projectionist in the 70's through the early 90's.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 31, 2024 05:32 PM (iODuv)

322 If you're losing California 30-something women who have LOVED your product their entire lives because your constant screw-ups have ruined everything they paid good money for... well then you've lost just about everybody who put your company in the black every year.

Disney is running on the fumes of fond memories.

Posted by: WhatACoincidence at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (6ydKt)

This is the problem with modern hucksters - to some extent you have to understand your victims and even like them, so that you give them enough of what they want to keep them coming back without skinning them to death.

The hatred leftists have for everything - enemies, strangers, themselves and even life itself makes it impossible for them to do this.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:33 PM (eoQWY)

323 Rob Roy the man, Rob Roy the novel, and Rob Roy the movie have precious little to do with each other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (GBKbO)

Doesn't Roy get tired of being robbed ?

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2024 05:33 PM (T4tVD)

324 Haven't been to a movie theater since 2011.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 04:34 PM (AwYPR)

That's you.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 31, 2024 05:32 PM (iODuv)

Yes it is, I wasn't speaking for anyone else.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (AwYPR)

325 Hollywood often turns to cheap low-budget, non-union reality TV when times are tough. (Or when strikes have delayed normal scripted shows.)

But now reality TV is in a recession, too.

This is because there's an even cheaper form of entertainment production than reality TV, that's as likely to retain eyeballs. And that's online programming (YouTube, Twitch, Rumble, etc). Endless volumes of stuff to watch. No cost beyond the bandwidth.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (s4RAz)

326 I just re-read Tides of War by Steven Pressfield. It’s about Alcibiades and the Peloponnesian War .

It came out in 2000 which proves the point that nothing of true merit has been written in the last 20 years.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM (XV/Pl)

I guess I would have to agree with you because Pressfield’s last two books I’ve read has him going woke and girl power.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (SHMXB)

327 Watched 16 Candles maybe 6 months ago, think it was holding up well

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (fwDg9)

328 I'll skip her Last Jedi vid, but I watched her review of The Rise of Skywalker and she's changed her tune obviously. She hated it, and went after that one the same way she did Star Wars Hotel.

I think part of the reason she hated The Rise of Palpatine is because it "ruined The Last Jedi." There are a number of Star Wars shills that hate it for ruining Rian Johnson's "genius"

Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (aRLgQ)

329 326 It came out in 2000 which proves the point that nothing of true merit has been written in the last 20 years.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM (XV/Pl)

I guess I would have to agree with you because Pressfield’s last two books I’ve read has him going woke and girl power.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (SHMXB)

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I dunno...I think my books are pretty good...

*kicks dust*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (GBKbO)

330 That's you. Many people still attend for the experience of the big screen, sound and seeing the feature with a few hundred others who enjoy movies. I still "go to the movies" in our area at least once a month. I've always been a movie fan since I was a kid back in the 50's. Hell, I even worked as a relief projectionist in the 70's through the early 90's.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 31, 2024 05:32 PM (iODuv)

I would say that 50 years ago it was most, 30 years ago it was many, but in the last few years this view has been increasingly fading as the movies themselves gets bad. Its one thing to pay for an experience for something good, but to pay for getting garbage? I prefer watching people mock the movies for free.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (eoQWY)

331 Why is it progressives never make any progress?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM

Because the kulaks, H8rs, and extreme cispatriarchal white supremacists are always sabotaging us!

Posted by: Social Democrats at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (a3Q+t)

332 327 Watched 16 Candles maybe 6 months ago, think it was holding up well
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (fwDg9)

Outstanding movie. Would not be made now in any recognizable form..

Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (PCK5/)

333 Watched 16 Candles maybe 6 months ago, think it was holding up well
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (fwDg9)

Except Molly Ringwald was never ever cute much less pretty.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (SHMXB)

334 Israeli military says they've uncovered Hamas rocket launchers and tunnels in central parts of Rafah. [No shit?!]

Israel puts forward new proposal for Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal that includes three phases.

First phase of Israeli proposal would include 6-week ceasefire and withdrawal of troops from populated areas of Gaza.

Second phase of Israeli proposal includes release of all living hostages and permanent end to hostilities.

Third phase of Israeli ceasefire proposal would see the rebuilding of Gaza begin.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (ZdexC)

335 Watched 16 Candles maybe 6 months ago, think it was holding up well
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (fwDg9)

Outstanding movie. Would not be made now in any recognizable form..
Posted by: tubal at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (PCK5/)

The Donger need food. !!!

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:37 PM (SHMXB)

336 The Pressfield book I read was "gates of fire" and I agreed with the reviewer who said it belongs on the shelf next to Homer.

I'm pretending that's his only book.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 31, 2024 05:37 PM (gKWVE)

337 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 31, 2024 05:37 PM (ZdexC)

338 282 278 I’m sure Nicholson’s video is good. But it’s not necessary to watch to fully understand how cheap and cheaply pathetic this woefully-named “Galactic Cruiser” was. How do I know? Because Disney’s own promotional video for the shitfest makes that clear.

And what’s with the name? Disney had the full SW universe to draw from, and they chose that banal stupidity? They would have been much better off naming it after a ship in one of the movies, best of all one of the imperial ships.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2024 05:21 PM (L7q0f)

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I still wonder if it would have been better had it been like other Disney resorts: you know, outside.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Yea, like an alien landscape thing. They could have done almost anything. Yet they did this. I swear it was another money-laundering scheme, or some kind of tax write off.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2024 05:38 PM (L7q0f)

339 I dunno...I think my books are pretty good...

*kicks dust*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (GBKbO)

Corstae is for sure

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (xcxpd)

340 Yea, like an alien landscape thing. They could have done almost anything. Yet they did this. I swear it was another money-laundering scheme, or some kind of tax write off.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2024 05:38 PM (L7q0f)

you can do less embarrassing schemes, so I think they really wanted it to work, but they don't know how.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (eoQWY)

341
I prefer watching people mock the movies for free.
Posted by: Oldcat

MST3K

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:40 PM (63Dwl)

342 Pressfield book I read was "gates of fire" and I agreed with the reviewer who said it belongs on the shelf next to Homer.

I'm pretending that's his only book.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 31, 2024 05:37 PM (gKWVE)

His other Historic fiction books are almost or just as good. He also wrote The Legend of Bagger Vance if you’re a golfer. One of my favorite books.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM (SHMXB)

343 And in today's manufactured news item:

"Clip of crowd celebrating Trump conviction is edited video of 2016 soccer win"

Oooookay then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2024 05:51 PM (XkYcA)

344 Veep Kamala Harris is going to be in MY FUCKING NEIGHBORHOOD TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

*types*
*deletes*
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (W2Pud)

If they have to drum up support in Seattle, then they are in a world of hurt.

Dad said the first time he got on the front page of the paper was when he was in a crowd shot of the campaign stop by Harry Truman to Tacoma. He was scowling at the cameraman.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 05:57 PM (D7oie)

345 Trying to think of the most recent book I've read, it's either Guns, Germs and Steel ...

... aka "Why Africa Is a Train Wreck, and It's Not Because of Africans"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (YqDXo)

Carlo Cipolla wrote on this subject in 1968, and had the benefit of being both an economist and an historian- and not a top-notch ornithologist with a focus on island fauna - Guns, Sails and Empires: Technological Innovation and the Early Phase of European Expansion 1400-1700

It very much covers the same eras, and points out that technological change is also cultural change, which is resisted fiercely

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (D7oie)

346 if someone tries to take them away...somebody...besides me..is gonna' get hurt.

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:12 PM (AwYPR)

Do you need overwatch? Because I have something that can reach out from a very long way away.

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