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Trump Tied With Biden in Virginia, 42-42; Biden Won Virginia (Allegedly) by 10 Points in 2020
It's almost as if Biden is a Failed Fake President.
There is a snag, however. That snag is RFKJr.A recent Roanoke College poll indicates a tie between former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden in Virginia--a state Biden won by a significant margin in 2020. Key Details: Even Match: Trump and Biden each garnered 42% support among likely voters in Virginia, with a significant 16% opting for other candidates or remaining undecided. Third-Party Influence: Including third-party candidates, Biden slightly leads Trump 40% to 38%. Independent Robert F. Kennedy Jr. emerges as a notable contender with 8% support. Historical Context: Virginia, traditionally a blue stronghold since 2008, shows unexpected competitiveness in current polling.As you may know, Biden will be nominated "virtually" before the convention so that he can meet Ohio's deadline to be on the ballot. But, as Ed Morrissey points out -- that means that the Democrats can't pull a convention Torricelli Option and remain on the ballot, right?
So much for all those Chicago Switcheroo scenarios! Political analysts will have to set aside months of speculation about a convention surprise, thanks to the DNC's inability to research state deadlines for ballot access -- and Ohio Democrats' desire for foreign money in ballot-issue campaigns. As Jazz noted earlier, the dream is over. Rather than wait for the convention to nominate Joe Biden as their presidential nominee, the DNC will hold a "virtual roll call" to nominate Biden in time for Ohio's August 7 ballot deadline:Well, maybe. Remember, New Jersey also had a ballot deadline which Torricelli's last minute replacement Frank Lautenberg did not meet. But Democrats ran to a friendly judge to get Lautenberg put on the ballot, in defiance of state law. So that could happen again. The DNC has no mechanism to replace a candidate once votes have been cast? So what? What does the law matter when we have Muh Democracy at stake?!?! But Biden would need a lot of friendly judges in a lot of swing states, right? Or he could file with one friendly liberal Hawaiian federal judge who issues a command to all states to change the ballots.[NYT:] Democratic Party leaders said Tuesday that they would nominate President Biden for a second term in office via a virtual roll call of delegates to the party's national convention, bypassing a glitch in Ohio law that had threatened to keep Mr. Biden off the November ballot in the state. Ohio law requires all candidates to be legally certified by Aug. 7, but Mr. Biden was not scheduled to be officially nominated until after the Democratic National Convention begins on Aug. 19. The virtual roll call will be completed before the Ohio deadline. ... The chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Jaime Harrison, issued a statement on Tuesday denouncing the Republican lawmakers for their inaction. "Joe Biden will be on the ballot in Ohio and all 50 states, and Ohio Republicans agree," he said. "But when the time has come for action, they have failed to act every time, so Democrats will land this plane on our own."... At any rate, the net result of this new strategy all but eliminates any convention switcheroo for a failing Biden. Before this plan, the possibility existed (unlikely as it was) that the DNC could change the rules to release all delegates on the first ballot and have a real open convention for the nomination.... They're stuck with Biden now because they will have no mechanism to replace him once that virtual vote takes place.
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Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (B1FKF)
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As I said, Trump will select Youngkin as his VP, this will put VA in play, his only shot at winning runs through VA, so this will be a good move.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (XV/Pl)
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Top 150!
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (rmVUs)
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*regurgitates my opinions of polls*
*contributes nothing to discussion*
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*contributes nothing to discussion*
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Or he could file with one friendly liberal Hawaiian federal judge who issues a command to all states to change the ballots.
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that would go to the supreme court
Who i would assume after dicking around like the asshats they are with election law cases, might finally occur to them that gee them democrats really are trying to burn electoral integrity to the ground and dissolve the entire government, ay?
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that would go to the supreme court
Who i would assume after dicking around like the asshats they are with election law cases, might finally occur to them that gee them democrats really are trying to burn electoral integrity to the ground and dissolve the entire government, ay?
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (DBZuM)
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‘Everything is proceeding according to plan.’
- darth soros
- darth soros
Posted by: Eromero at May 30, 2024 01:26 PM (o2ZRX)
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:: checks calendar ::
:: checks book ::
If the number of months until the election is greater than or equal to three, polling results are significantly less trustworthy than in the period within three months of the election, irrespective of the level of late-period trustworthiness.
:: checks book ::
If the number of months until the election is greater than or equal to three, polling results are significantly less trustworthy than in the period within three months of the election, irrespective of the level of late-period trustworthiness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:26 PM (d04cU)
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"The Conservative Case for Letting Democrats Replace Joe Biden on the Ballot in Spite of the Law."
...coming to the Bulwark near you. Look for it in our next issue.
...coming to the Bulwark near you. Look for it in our next issue.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:26 PM (tT6L1)
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Who i would assume after dicking around like the asshats they are with election law cases, might finally occur to them that gee them democrats really are trying to burn electoral integrity to the ground and dissolve the entire government, ay?
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (DBZuM)
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After Dobbs, I'm more hopeful that Alito and Thomas are effectively in charge of SCOTUS.
My fingers are crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
Who i would assume after dicking around like the asshats they are with election law cases, might finally occur to them that gee them democrats really are trying to burn electoral integrity to the ground and dissolve the entire government, ay?
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (DBZuM)
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After Dobbs, I'm more hopeful that Alito and Thomas are effectively in charge of SCOTUS.
My fingers are crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:26 PM (GBKbO)
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As I said, Trump will select Youngkin as his VP, this will put VA in play, his only shot at winning runs through VA, so this will be a good move.
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I dont know, he called Youngkin a weenie before
I also think Youngkin is a weenie with a bit of a poofsie spine, just a slightly better weenie than the typical RINO
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I dont know, he called Youngkin a weenie before
I also think Youngkin is a weenie with a bit of a poofsie spine, just a slightly better weenie than the typical RINO
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (DBZuM)
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oh my
so biden and harris run again, if they win and can pull it off, sloppy second gets to resign and become a federal judge, someone like newsome or half whitmer or even moochelle becomes vp, then biden can slink off into the sunset. presuming they can get dr jill to let it all happen. maybe they make her se c of the dept of edjumacation
so biden and harris run again, if they win and can pull it off, sloppy second gets to resign and become a federal judge, someone like newsome or half whitmer or even moochelle becomes vp, then biden can slink off into the sunset. presuming they can get dr jill to let it all happen. maybe they make her se c of the dept of edjumacation
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (B1FKF)
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Willowed but an important observation on why the two lawyers were allowed to serve on the jury:
"There are two lawyers on the jury, they understand the burden of proof and what elements need to be satisfied to make everything seem legit."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2024 01:23 PM (XV/Pl)
"There are two lawyers on the jury, they understand the burden of proof and what elements need to be satisfied to make everything seem legit."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2024 01:23 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (ONUvy)
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Thank for the new thread, Ace. The last one was turning into a discussion of funky smelling nethers.
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (v6Olo)
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4 *regurgitates my opinions of polls*
*contributes nothing to discussion*
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
What a joke.
*contributes nothing to discussion*
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
What a joke.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (KbCG3)
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7 :: checks calendar ::
:: checks book ::
If the number of months until the election is greater than or equal to three, polling results are significantly less trustworthy than in the period within three months of the election, irrespective of the level of late-period trustworthiness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:26 PM (d04cU)
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It used to be, "Oh shit, we have to actually try now...come up with a reason why polls six months out are bullshit."
Now it's, "We're just narrative. Keep it going."
:: checks book ::
If the number of months until the election is greater than or equal to three, polling results are significantly less trustworthy than in the period within three months of the election, irrespective of the level of late-period trustworthiness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:26 PM (d04cU)
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It used to be, "Oh shit, we have to actually try now...come up with a reason why polls six months out are bullshit."
Now it's, "We're just narrative. Keep it going."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (GBKbO)
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TJM, Prometheus promised Alien thrills and chills, but delivered squat. There's a good GOP analogy in there somewhere.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (rmVUs)
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Third-Party Influence: Including third-party candidates, Biden slightly leads Trump 40% to 38%. Independent Robert F. Kennedy Jr. emerges as a notable contender with 8% support.
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Assuming any of the polling is not bullshit, it appears to shake out as, "RFK, Jr. causes some heartburn for Trump in blue states that are within margin of error without him, but in red states or blue states outside the margin of error, he is not a significant factor."
No idea if that's a sane take or not.
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Assuming any of the polling is not bullshit, it appears to shake out as, "RFK, Jr. causes some heartburn for Trump in blue states that are within margin of error without him, but in red states or blue states outside the margin of error, he is not a significant factor."
No idea if that's a sane take or not.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (d04cU)
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14 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
What a joke.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (KbCG3)
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Hurtful!
What a joke.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (KbCG3)
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Hurtful!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (GBKbO)
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Hi Ace.
Back from my granddaughter's preschool graduation. The most important part....the ice cream truck.
Meant to ask How was the birthday party?
Back from my granddaughter's preschool graduation. The most important part....the ice cream truck.
Meant to ask How was the birthday party?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (t/2Uw)
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The people who most wail for "Our Democracy" want their candidate hand picked by elite stooges without the People getting any say in the matter.
Huh.
Huh.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (RlXwv)
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They've figured out lawfare isn't working to bring Trump's numbers down, so they're resorting to the "N-word".
https://t.ly/EBwgJ
https://t.ly/EBwgJ
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (dZVON)
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It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (xh+ZO)
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Thank for the new thread, Ace. The last one was turning into a discussion of funky smelling nethers.
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (v6Olo)
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I saw Funky Nethers open for Tone Loc back in the day.
Interesting show, I'll tell you.
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (v6Olo)
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I saw Funky Nethers open for Tone Loc back in the day.
Interesting show, I'll tell you.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (tT6L1)
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That snag is RFKJr.
The protest vote for him is gonna bury Biden the same way Jimmy Carter got buried when John Anderson got 8% of the vote in 1980.
History doesn't exactly repeat, or rhyme, but it's the same story.
Shitty incumbent, lousy economy, opportunity to toss the vote away.
That snag is RFKJr.
The protest vote for him is gonna bury Biden the same way Jimmy Carter got buried when John Anderson got 8% of the vote in 1980.
History doesn't exactly repeat, or rhyme, but it's the same story.
Shitty incumbent, lousy economy, opportunity to toss the vote away.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (RKVpM)
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wolfus beat me to it but i nooded too. what do i win, a party with hunter biden's current bit of flooz?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (B1FKF)
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I have no idea about Virginia vote fraud
Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (rdISq)
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Why doesn't the DNC simply deem Old Joe to be the nominee, today?
Posted by: Gref at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (5fDan)
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"At any rate, the net result of this new strategy all but eliminates any convention switcheroo for a failing Biden."
*The Grim Reaper has entered the chat.*
*The Grim Reaper has entered the chat.*
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (qUkBO)
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As Jazz noted earlier, the dream is over. Rather than wait for the convention to nominate Joe Biden as their presidential nominee, the DNC will hold a "virtual roll call" to nominate Biden in time for Ohio's August 7 ballot deadline:
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1. The "switcharoo" was not a likely outcome regardless.
2. If the DNC wants a "switcharoo," it can still get one - it just has to do all the bribery and deal-making and threats and whatnot before August 7 and do it with the "roll call."
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1. The "switcharoo" was not a likely outcome regardless.
2. If the DNC wants a "switcharoo," it can still get one - it just has to do all the bribery and deal-making and threats and whatnot before August 7 and do it with the "roll call."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (d04cU)
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22 It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (xh+ZO)
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"Sure, things are bad, but Trump will make it worse. He'll start a war in Ukraine. He'll explode federal spending and drive up inflation. We need Biden's strong leadership to keep us on the right track, which we're not on."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (xh+ZO)
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"Sure, things are bad, but Trump will make it worse. He'll start a war in Ukraine. He'll explode federal spending and drive up inflation. We need Biden's strong leadership to keep us on the right track, which we're not on."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (GBKbO)
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11 oh my
so biden and harris run again, if they win and can pull it off, sloppy second gets to resign and become a federal judge, someone like newsome or half whitmer or even moochelle becomes vp, then biden can slink off into the sunset. presuming they can get dr jill to let it all happen. maybe they make her se c of the dept of edjumacation
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (B1FKF)
Or more likely...
They run again. "Win." Biden is embalmed. They spend four years accelerating the catastrophe that is the current state of the US. Everyone pretends like it's totally normal that we have a corpse for a president.
so biden and harris run again, if they win and can pull it off, sloppy second gets to resign and become a federal judge, someone like newsome or half whitmer or even moochelle becomes vp, then biden can slink off into the sunset. presuming they can get dr jill to let it all happen. maybe they make her se c of the dept of edjumacation
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (B1FKF)
Or more likely...
They run again. "Win." Biden is embalmed. They spend four years accelerating the catastrophe that is the current state of the US. Everyone pretends like it's totally normal that we have a corpse for a president.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (KbCG3)
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So that could happen again. The DNC has no mechanism to replace a candidate once votes have been cast? So what? What does the law matter when we have Muh Democracy at stake?!?!
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It never has.
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It never has.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (d04cU)
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I don't see RFK taking potential Trump votes
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (Akjoo)
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Did you see that pedo fag the fake "libertarians" nominated? Very, very left-wing. Anyone remember the result of the stupid weld/johnson 2020 ticket? Hint: they quit and endorsed biden.
Ponder this: President Trump was much better received by the typical residents of Bronx, NY than he was at the fake "libertarian" "convention."
Did you see that pedo fag the fake "libertarians" nominated? Very, very left-wing. Anyone remember the result of the stupid weld/johnson 2020 ticket? Hint: they quit and endorsed biden.
Ponder this: President Trump was much better received by the typical residents of Bronx, NY than he was at the fake "libertarian" "convention."
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (BdDcY)
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Probability Trump is convicted > Probability Trump wins VA
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (xT8gx)
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26 I have no idea about Virginia vote fraud
Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (rdISq)
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The VA GOP and RNC actually tried to hold back fraud in 2021 for the governor's race, and it worked. It was the main source of my optimism for 2022.
They haven't tried since.
Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (rdISq)
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The VA GOP and RNC actually tried to hold back fraud in 2021 for the governor's race, and it worked. It was the main source of my optimism for 2022.
They haven't tried since.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)
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25 I beat you both, and I can attest from experience, there's no nood prize.
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (MvF+J)
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re torricelli and lautenberg c 1998 or was it 2002: the nj judge(s) ruled that not letting the dems run someone else would deny the people their right to vote for the candidate they wanted to vote for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (B1FKF)
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Before the sink dribbled in Atlanta, Trump was tied with PedoJoe in VA.
I'm sure its just a coincidence basically all the votes counted after that were for PedoJoe...
I'm sure its just a coincidence basically all the votes counted after that were for PedoJoe...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (ibTVg)
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Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (AwYPR)
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Actually Hillary wasn't picked by The People either.
Didn't she get picked by winning 17 perfectly fair coin flips in a row?
Didn't she get picked by winning 17 perfectly fair coin flips in a row?
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (RlXwv)
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'It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"'
That's 142%, pal.
That's 142%, pal.
Posted by: Federal Workers of Northern Virginia at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (qUkBO)
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Yeah Hawaiian judge is going to let the Dems do whatever the hell they want and you will have no standing.
But the Ohio Dysfunction (they were an indie band never opened for anyone) forced this outcome on the Dems and it makes them squirm a little. It is more difficult to replace Biden on the ballot. Unless, well, EVENTS.
But the Ohio Dysfunction (they were an indie band never opened for anyone) forced this outcome on the Dems and it makes them squirm a little. It is more difficult to replace Biden on the ballot. Unless, well, EVENTS.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (xhfG9)
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Ohio Dems: Those jerk Republicans won't help us get Biden on the ballot.
**Colorado has entered the chat.**
**Colorado has entered the chat.**
Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (2cQ7F)
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Thank for the new thread, Ace. The last one was turning into a discussion of funky smelling nethers.
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (v6Olo)
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I saw Funky Nethers open for Tone Loc back in the day.
Interesting show, I'll tell you.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (tT6L1)
YES! Blake took the bait. I was wondering how long it would take for an "I saw funky [smelling] nethers open for..." comment. Only 2 minutes before a bite!!
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:27 PM (v6Olo)
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I saw Funky Nethers open for Tone Loc back in the day.
Interesting show, I'll tell you.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:29 PM (tT6L1)
YES! Blake took the bait. I was wondering how long it would take for an "I saw funky [smelling] nethers open for..." comment. Only 2 minutes before a bite!!
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (v6Olo)
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Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (AwYPR)
Because the CIA told him to?
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (AwYPR)
Because the CIA told him to?
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (RlXwv)
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@10
>>I also think Youngkin is a weenie with a bit of a poofsie spine, just a slightly better weenie than the typical RINO
You can never fully trust a former CEO of The Carlyle Group but as they say, politics makes strange bedfellows.
Or alternatively...
Ersatz Al Davis: Just Win Baby!
>>I also think Youngkin is a weenie with a bit of a poofsie spine, just a slightly better weenie than the typical RINO
You can never fully trust a former CEO of The Carlyle Group but as they say, politics makes strange bedfellows.
Or alternatively...
Ersatz Al Davis: Just Win Baby!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (XV/Pl)
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Happy real birthday to JJ Sefton, a man we can all support for Secretary of Something Or Other.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (xh+ZO)
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Early polls generally favor the incumbent
Carter was ahead of Reagan for most of the election year, then cratered towards the end as it started to finally dawn on people what Carters second term would have looked like
If Biden is doing this poorly now, its only going to get worse
Carter was ahead of Reagan for most of the election year, then cratered towards the end as it started to finally dawn on people what Carters second term would have looked like
If Biden is doing this poorly now, its only going to get worse
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (DBZuM)
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39 Before the sink dribbled in Atlanta, Trump was tied with PedoJoe in VA.
I'm sure its just a coincidence basically all the votes counted after that were for PedoJoe...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (ibTVg)
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"This was expected because our base are terrified of covid, won't turn out to elections, will all vote by mail, and their ballots won't get counted until after the election day totals are counted. Trust us, it's a failproof system."
I'm sure its just a coincidence basically all the votes counted after that were for PedoJoe...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (ibTVg)
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"This was expected because our base are terrified of covid, won't turn out to elections, will all vote by mail, and their ballots won't get counted until after the election day totals are counted. Trust us, it's a failproof system."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
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If it's close, some of those RFK voters will go for Biden or Trump. They know it's a throw away vote for RFK.
And I think there are at least two jurors disagreeing. Easier to stay strong if you are not the only one.
And I think there are at least two jurors disagreeing. Easier to stay strong if you are not the only one.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 30, 2024 01:32 PM (xjTDL)
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They need a virtual candidate.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 01:32 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 01:32 PM (MvF+J)
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@40
>>Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Because that was the programming his CIA minders uploaded into his brain pan.
Or alternatively...
MKUltra is real and it's spectacular.
>>Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Because that was the programming his CIA minders uploaded into his brain pan.
Or alternatively...
MKUltra is real and it's spectacular.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (XV/Pl)
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'It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"'
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The worst Pedo Joe can ever do I think would still give him 30%+ support
1/3rd of the country needs to be fumigated out of existence
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The worst Pedo Joe can ever do I think would still give him 30%+ support
1/3rd of the country needs to be fumigated out of existence
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (DBZuM)
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re 30: "Sure, things are bad, but Trump will make it worse. He'll start a war in Ukraine. He'll explode federal spending and drive up inflation. We need Biden's strong leadership to keep us on the right track, which we're not on."
except for the 'sure thing are bad' that's pretty much the dems' talking point(s). also the dems will blame the repubs for all they flies in the katsup
except for the 'sure thing are bad' that's pretty much the dems' talking point(s). also the dems will blame the repubs for all they flies in the katsup
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (AwYPR)
58
52 They need a virtual candidate.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 01:32 PM (63Dwl)
They have one... Joe... He's not running anything
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 01:32 PM (63Dwl)
They have one... Joe... He's not running anything
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (Akjoo)
59
48 Happy real birthday to JJ Sefton, a man we can all support for Secretary of Something Or Other.
miscellaneous czar
miscellaneous czar
Posted by: anachronda at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (v3pYe)
60
Please. The Democrats care about rules? They do whatever they want and come up with after-the-fact justifications. There's no force in nature yet to be found that stops them.
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (tf4XU)
61
Early polls generally favor the incumbent
Carter was ahead of Reagan for most of the election year, then cratered towards the end as it started to finally dawn on people what Carters second term would have looked like
If Biden is doing this poorly now, its only going to get worse
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (DBZuM)
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Early polls serve narrative purposes, not data purposes.
*No* public polling, regardless of timing, serves a data-related purpose. Public polling is, without exception, propaganda.
Carter was ahead of Reagan for most of the election year, then cratered towards the end as it started to finally dawn on people what Carters second term would have looked like
If Biden is doing this poorly now, its only going to get worse
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (DBZuM)
++++
Early polls serve narrative purposes, not data purposes.
*No* public polling, regardless of timing, serves a data-related purpose. Public polling is, without exception, propaganda.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (d04cU)
62
Virginia law has been changed in a way that seems to have actually improved the security of elections. BUT there is still the capability. When Spannberger lost her race they managed to find a thumb drive that had 84000 votes that were ALL - as in every single one - for Spannberger. And she won.
Not much can be done about that level of fraud.
Not much can be done about that level of fraud.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (xhfG9)
63
YES! Blake took the bait. I was wondering how long it would take for an "I saw funky [smelling] nethers open for..." comment. Only 2 minutes before a bite!!
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (v6Olo)
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And what song is Tone Loc known for?
...Funky Cold Medina
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (v6Olo)
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And what song is Tone Loc known for?
...Funky Cold Medina
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (tT6L1)
64
After four years of the Junta march to civilizational destruction, even Never Trump Republicans sound like they will vote Trump.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (xh+ZO)
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55 The worst Pedo Joe can ever do I think would still give him 30%+ support
1/3rd of the country needs to be fumigated out of existence
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (DBZuM)
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Most people are just kind of low-key partisan about politics. They choose not to think about it. Their political party is just kind of baked into the cake by the time they're in their 20s. They don't know or understand the connection between their voting preferences, their side winning or losing, and the effects of policy.
1/3rd of the country needs to be fumigated out of existence
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:33 PM (DBZuM)
==========
Most people are just kind of low-key partisan about politics. They choose not to think about it. Their political party is just kind of baked into the cake by the time they're in their 20s. They don't know or understand the connection between their voting preferences, their side winning or losing, and the effects of policy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (GBKbO)
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59 48 Happy real birthday to JJ Sefton, a man we can all support for Secretary of Something Or Other.
Happy Birthday ! For real this time ?
Happy Birthday ! For real this time ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (Akjoo)
67
Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM
Because he was a 'Christian' from Syria.
That should explain it.
Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM
Because he was a 'Christian' from Syria.
That should explain it.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
68
So the president might've said the thing anyone can and will hear almost any time they leave their suburban homes, often while sitting in traffic.
Oh no, not that.
Oh no, not that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (ONUvy)
69
***-Party Influence: Including third-party candidates, Biden slightly leads Trump 40% to 38%.***
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That's some deep bullshit right there. Kennedy is not pulling votes from Trump.
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That's some deep bullshit right there. Kennedy is not pulling votes from Trump.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (0ZYe2)
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It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM
You need to remember that 42% of Virginia works in DC. Northern Virginia is literally a suburb of Washington DC because no one wants to live in DC.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM
You need to remember that 42% of Virginia works in DC. Northern Virginia is literally a suburb of Washington DC because no one wants to live in DC.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
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Ima call bullshit on the three way race.
Just because RFK Jr was correct on the covid "vax" doesn't mean he will steal many republican voters.
Just because RFK Jr was correct on the covid "vax" doesn't mean he will steal many republican voters.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (17s+e)
72
Early polls serve narrative purposes, not data purposes.
*No* public polling, regardless of timing, serves a data-related purpose. Public polling is, without exception, propaganda.
As it was told to me here, "All polls are push polls."
*No* public polling, regardless of timing, serves a data-related purpose. Public polling is, without exception, propaganda.
As it was told to me here, "All polls are push polls."
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (dZVON)
Posted by: pawn at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (BdDcY)
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73 King Harv is holding a gun and a bowling ball.
Is this some kind of reference or something?
buy my coffee or i'll shoot this ball?
Is this some kind of reference or something?
buy my coffee or i'll shoot this ball?
Posted by: anachronda at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (v3pYe)
76
And what song is Tone Loc known for?
...Funky Cold Medina
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (tT6L1)
In this context, a parody called Funky Old Vagina is in order
...Funky Cold Medina
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (tT6L1)
In this context, a parody called Funky Old Vagina is in order
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (v6Olo)
77
And what song is Tone Loc known for?
...Funky Cold Medina
Posted by: blake - semi lurker
Ain't no plans with a man
...Funky Cold Medina
Posted by: blake - semi lurker
Ain't no plans with a man
Posted by: Tone Loc - Canceled! at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (hCzfy)
78
The spirit of aloha and pupu platters demands that Joe Biden be on the ballot in all states.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (JTwsP)
79
As it was told to me here, "All polls are push polls."
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (dZVON)
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I don't think I've ever been asked an open ended question in a poll.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (dZVON)
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I don't think I've ever been asked an open ended question in a poll.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (tT6L1)
80
You need to remember that 42% of Virginia works in DC. Northern Virginia is literally a suburb of Washington DC because no one wants to live in DC.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
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DC is a third-world city. There is a hyper-rich elite and a hopeless and often violent underclass.
Most of the drones live outside of DC and commute in for the same reason that most of the drones live in places like San Jose and commute in to San Francisco.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
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DC is a third-world city. There is a hyper-rich elite and a hopeless and often violent underclass.
Most of the drones live outside of DC and commute in for the same reason that most of the drones live in places like San Jose and commute in to San Francisco.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (d04cU)
81
73 King Harv is holding a gun and a bowling ball.
Is this some kind of reference or something?
Posted by: pawn at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QB+5g)
His bowling League has some strict rules ?
Is this some kind of reference or something?
Posted by: pawn at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QB+5g)
His bowling League has some strict rules ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (Akjoo)
82
OT-Unrelated note. Somebody i know works at college (He's not a professor) and a number of his colleagues belong to GLOW-"Gay, Lesbian OR whatever". I told him that f course, I'd be pleasant and nice to them as we worked together, but if I were by myself I'd probably laugh and roll my eyes at GLOW which sounds like an old fashioned word for women perspiring. Men GLOW, men perspire.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (XkYcA)
83
There are lot - though less and less with time - people who take their vote seriously and like to "decide for themselves". They're mostly dumbshits but they are what make these things interesting.
Otherwise there would be no point in elections, polling etc. We would always know the outcome.
Otherwise there would be no point in elections, polling etc. We would always know the outcome.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (RlXwv)
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Happy Birthday ! For real this time ?
Posted by: It's me donna
All of JJ's birthdays are real. That's why he's 64,522 years old.
Posted by: It's me donna
All of JJ's birthdays are real. That's why he's 64,522 years old.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (v6JzV)
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69 ***-Party Influence: Including third-party candidates, Biden slightly leads Trump 40% to 38%.***
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That's some deep bullshit right there. Kennedy is not pulling votes from Trump.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (0ZYe2)
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It's important to remember that Trump's base is not the traditional GOP base.
It includes a lot of older Democrats who don't like the Democrat Party anymore, have never trusted the party of the rich, the GOP, and feel like they have no political home.
Older voters also have shown in the aggregate tendency to show that fear of covid is a deciding factor.
I can easily imagine a sliver of Trump voters who prefer RFK because of covid and nostalgia for the Democrat Party as it "was"...Camelot.
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That's some deep bullshit right there. Kennedy is not pulling votes from Trump.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (0ZYe2)
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It's important to remember that Trump's base is not the traditional GOP base.
It includes a lot of older Democrats who don't like the Democrat Party anymore, have never trusted the party of the rich, the GOP, and feel like they have no political home.
Older voters also have shown in the aggregate tendency to show that fear of covid is a deciding factor.
I can easily imagine a sliver of Trump voters who prefer RFK because of covid and nostalgia for the Democrat Party as it "was"...Camelot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (GBKbO)
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I am at a complete loss as to how RFK pulls more support from Trump than Biden. That makes ZERO sense. He's a radical leftist with a couple libertarian-esque leanings.
Posted by: deadrody at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (OeYsY)
87
The spirit of aloha and pupu platters demands that Joe Biden be on the ballot in all states.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (JTwsP)
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"Spirit of Aloha" is a touchstone for modern America.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (JTwsP)
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"Spirit of Aloha" is a touchstone for modern America.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (d04cU)
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It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM
You need to remember that 42% of Virginia works in DC. Northern Virginia is literally a suburb of Washington DC because no one wants to live in DC.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
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*SMH*
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM
You need to remember that 42% of Virginia works in DC. Northern Virginia is literally a suburb of Washington DC because no one wants to live in DC.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
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*SMH*
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (xh+ZO)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (P9xGM)
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4 *regurgitates my opinions of polls*
*contributes nothing to discussion*
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing
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Deborah Kerr-Trimmer in Helensburgh, Scotland, on September 30, 1921,
she was first trained as a dancer at her aunt's drama school in Bristol, England.
After winning a scholarship to the Sadlers Wells Ballet School, Kerr made her London stage debut at age 17 in Prometheus.
*contributes nothing to discussion*
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing
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Deborah Kerr-Trimmer in Helensburgh, Scotland, on September 30, 1921,
she was first trained as a dancer at her aunt's drama school in Bristol, England.
After winning a scholarship to the Sadlers Wells Ballet School, Kerr made her London stage debut at age 17 in Prometheus.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (0ZYe2)
91
Mystery '80's lyrics:
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Mystery '80's lyrics:
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (BdDcY)
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Men GLOW, men perspire.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (XkYcA)
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Especially me, if I meet the right man!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 01:36 PM (XkYcA)
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Especially me, if I meet the right man!
Posted by: Mayor Pete at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (d04cU)
93
Some other good news in case no one else poat'd it earlier:
@CommishSmith 2h
A 9-0 slapdown of New York's effort to intimidate people out of any association with the NRA. A very important win for the First Amendment!
"Justice Sonia Sotomayor authored the opinion of the Court, with Neil Gorsuch and Ketanji Brown Jackson issuing concurring opinions. All nine of the justices agreed that the Second Circuit Court of Appeals was wrong to dismiss the NRA's First Amendment claims, and they sent NRA v. Vullo back to the appellate court for further review in light of their findings. " - BearingArms.com
@CommishSmith 2h
A 9-0 slapdown of New York's effort to intimidate people out of any association with the NRA. A very important win for the First Amendment!
"Justice Sonia Sotomayor authored the opinion of the Court, with Neil Gorsuch and Ketanji Brown Jackson issuing concurring opinions. All nine of the justices agreed that the Second Circuit Court of Appeals was wrong to dismiss the NRA's First Amendment claims, and they sent NRA v. Vullo back to the appellate court for further review in light of their findings. " - BearingArms.com
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (IG4Id)
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If you have guns and bowling balls, here's a vid that will show you what you're supposed to do with them:
youtube.com/watch?v=b_L46reGiq0
youtube.com/watch?v=b_L46reGiq0
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (MvF+J)
95
OT-Unrelated note. Somebody i know works at college (He's not a professor) and a number of his colleagues belong to GLOW-"Gay, Lesbian OR whatever". I told him that f course, I'd be pleasant and nice to them as we worked together, but if I were by myself I'd probably laugh and roll my eyes at GLOW which sounds like an old fashioned word for women perspiring. Men GLOW, men perspire.
GLOW = "Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling", IIRC.
GLOW = "Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling", IIRC.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (dZVON)
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Because he was a 'Christian' from Syria.
That should explain it.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
Guessing that's snark but for those not up on ancient history:
Sirhan Sirhan whose family was Rosicrucian Lebanese was afraid that RFK would support Israel too much.
It's not a conspiracy - that is what Sirhan Sirhan said. And his writings were full of anti-Semitic hate.
That should explain it.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
Guessing that's snark but for those not up on ancient history:
Sirhan Sirhan whose family was Rosicrucian Lebanese was afraid that RFK would support Israel too much.
It's not a conspiracy - that is what Sirhan Sirhan said. And his writings were full of anti-Semitic hate.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (xhfG9)
97
So RFK is in it to bring in more ballots, eh?
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (RlXwv)
98
NPR/PBS
Biden 50 Trump 48 in 2 way
Trump 44 Biden 40 in 5 way.
Left leaning poll obviously but Kennedy takes the votes from Biden.
Biden 50 Trump 48 in 2 way
Trump 44 Biden 40 in 5 way.
Left leaning poll obviously but Kennedy takes the votes from Biden.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (t/2Uw)
99
Good thing I'm so dumb that I think that RFK is a sensible "middle-of-the-road" option and he's a Kennedy, SQUEEEE!
Posted by: Low Info Voter at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (PJaTp)
100
Mystery '80's lyrics:
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (BdDcY)
Mystery???? C'mon Dave - give us a break
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (BdDcY)
Mystery???? C'mon Dave - give us a break
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (v6Olo)
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86 I am at a complete loss as to how RFK pulls more support from Trump than Biden. That makes ZERO sense. He's a radical leftist with a couple libertarian-esque leanings.
Posted by: deadrody at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (OeYsY)
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I would suspect that RFK pulls more from Biden than Trump, for sure.
I wouldn't look to public polling to demonstrate it, though. Public polling, ESPECIALLY on fringe candidates, is bullshit.
Even if the polling firm is actually trying to measure reality, the margin for error can account for pretty much all of a fringe candidate position. It's probably why third party candidates pretty much always outpoll their results.
Posted by: deadrody at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (OeYsY)
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I would suspect that RFK pulls more from Biden than Trump, for sure.
I wouldn't look to public polling to demonstrate it, though. Public polling, ESPECIALLY on fringe candidates, is bullshit.
Even if the polling firm is actually trying to measure reality, the margin for error can account for pretty much all of a fringe candidate position. It's probably why third party candidates pretty much always outpoll their results.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)
102
RFK Jr is for late term abortion and "trans" child chopping. That's gonna cost Biden votes, not Trump.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (rmVUs)
103
What's the over/under on how many days until Biden begins screaming to blacks, "They'll put y'all back in chains!"
Posted by: Gref at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (5fDan)
104
You need to remember that 42% of Virginia works in DC. Northern Virginia is literally a suburb of Washington DC because no one wants to live in DC.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
When I was last in Winchester, I met lots of folks that commuted to DC.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (QNSds)
When I was last in Winchester, I met lots of folks that commuted to DC.
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (AwYPR)
105
Mystery '80's lyrics:
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Chains, Van Halen
At least I think that was the name of the song, too lazy to look it up.
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Chains, Van Halen
At least I think that was the name of the song, too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (dZVON)
106
With these "head-to-head vs three-way" polls, how are they executed? Do they allow a "I wouldn't vote in a head-to-head, my 3rd-party candidate is my man and if I can't vote for him, I'm not voting at all" response?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (d04cU)
107
I guess Torricelli must be some kind of pasta.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (ogTiX)
108
I’ve been to Helensburgh, Scotland. Just the pubs, really. I’ve been to 2 pubs there.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (JTwsP)
109
There were plenty of people who wanted to vote for the "first black president" in '08.
There are probably those same fools who want to vote for a "Kennedy".
There were plenty of people who wanted to vote for the "first black president" in '08.
There are probably those same fools who want to vote for a "Kennedy".
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (BdDcY)
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106 With these "head-to-head vs three-way" polls, how are they executed? Do they allow a "I wouldn't vote in a head-to-head, my 3rd-party candidate is my man and if I can't vote for him, I'm not voting at all" response?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (d04cU)
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I'd guess they get pulled from the denominator of the 2-way results.
I'd bet that the denominator of the mutli-way and 2-way polls are different.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (d04cU)
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I'd guess they get pulled from the denominator of the 2-way results.
I'd bet that the denominator of the mutli-way and 2-way polls are different.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)
112
86 I am at a complete loss as to how RFK pulls more support from Trump than Biden. That makes ZERO sense. He's a radical leftist with a couple libertarian-esque leanings.
Posted by: deadrody at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (OeYsY)
I don't think he pulls from rump. Anyway, people aren't looking at his record, they're just listening to him NOW. And in recent interviews he comes off as common-sense. And very few interviewers question his past record.
Posted by: deadrody at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (OeYsY)
I don't think he pulls from rump. Anyway, people aren't looking at his record, they're just listening to him NOW. And in recent interviews he comes off as common-sense. And very few interviewers question his past record.
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (tf4XU)
113
One impact of all these positive polls will be to ramp up the pressure on Sotomayor to retire.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (xh+ZO)
114
>>>I can easily imagine a sliver of Trump voters who prefer RFK because of covid and nostalgia for the Democrat Party as it "was"...Camelot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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The older contingent that fear covid want the shot. They fear Kennedy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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The older contingent that fear covid want the shot. They fear Kennedy.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (0ZYe2)
115
Guessing that's snark but for those not up on ancient history:
Sirhan Sirhan whose family was Rosicrucian Lebanese was afraid that RFK would support Israel too much.
It's not a conspiracy - that is what Sirhan Sirhan said. And his writings were full of anti-Semitic hate.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM
Yeah, it was snark. The middle east version of Christianity is unrecognizable to me which is why I scary quoted it.
Guessing that's snark but for those not up on ancient history:
Sirhan Sirhan whose family was Rosicrucian Lebanese was afraid that RFK would support Israel too much.
It's not a conspiracy - that is what Sirhan Sirhan said. And his writings were full of anti-Semitic hate.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM
Yeah, it was snark. The middle east version of Christianity is unrecognizable to me which is why I scary quoted it.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (RKVpM)
116
Chains, Van Halen
At least I think that was the name of the song, too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (dZVON)
I'm giving you Fair Warning that if you look it up you'll see that it is called "Unchained"
At least I think that was the name of the song, too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:39 PM (dZVON)
I'm giving you Fair Warning that if you look it up you'll see that it is called "Unchained"
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (v6Olo)
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Just because RFK Jr was correct on the covid "vax" doesn't mean he will steal many republican voters.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (17s+e)
Charlie Kirk explained yesterday on his show that there’s a contingent of young males in the country… they work out a lot, listen to Joe Rogan and hated the Covid op. Otherwise they’re LIVs… in their mind Trump = Lockdowns + covid vax….. for this cohort who hate Biden, RFKJr is the natural choice…… note that I’m not claiming Trump supported lockdowns but that belief is out there widely
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 30, 2024 01:35 PM (17s+e)
Charlie Kirk explained yesterday on his show that there’s a contingent of young males in the country… they work out a lot, listen to Joe Rogan and hated the Covid op. Otherwise they’re LIVs… in their mind Trump = Lockdowns + covid vax….. for this cohort who hate Biden, RFKJr is the natural choice…… note that I’m not claiming Trump supported lockdowns but that belief is out there widely
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (xT8gx)
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There are probably those same fools who want to vote for a "Kennedy".
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (+oR7L)
Even the "Kennedy's" don't want to vote for this Kennedy
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (+oR7L)
Even the "Kennedy's" don't want to vote for this Kennedy
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (Akjoo)
119
GLOW = "Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling", IIRC.
LOL. I'll tell him that.
I meant Women "Glow". Men perspite.
LOL. I'll tell him that.
I meant Women "Glow". Men perspite.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (XkYcA)
120
78 The spirit of aloha and pupu platters demands that Joe Biden be on the ballot in all states.
this is about me, isn't it?
this is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: amber heard at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (v3pYe)
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There are probably those same fools who want to vote for a "Kennedy".
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (+oR7L)
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Huh. Maybe I should get out of the news racket. The money is better in politics.
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2024 01:40 PM (+oR7L)
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Huh. Maybe I should get out of the news racket. The money is better in politics.
Posted by: Kennedy (Fox News commentator) at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (d04cU)
122
I live in a purple county on the southern-most outskirts of what could generously be called 'Northern Virginia.' Past election results are:
2021 - Youngkin
2020 - Biden
2018 - Kaine
2017 - Gillespie
2016 - Trump
2014 - Gillespie
2013 - Cuccinelli
People here will crawl over flaming, broken glass to vote for Trump. EVERYONE, even the reliable lefty teachers union, is furious at inflation, gas prices, and illegal immigration.
I don't believe for an instant that Virginia is actually in play, but if Biden is forced to defend here, he's not spending in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.
Losing VA by a point or two could directly lead to winning MI, WI, and PA by a point or two - a trade I'd gladly make.
2021 - Youngkin
2020 - Biden
2018 - Kaine
2017 - Gillespie
2016 - Trump
2014 - Gillespie
2013 - Cuccinelli
People here will crawl over flaming, broken glass to vote for Trump. EVERYONE, even the reliable lefty teachers union, is furious at inflation, gas prices, and illegal immigration.
I don't believe for an instant that Virginia is actually in play, but if Biden is forced to defend here, he's not spending in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.
Losing VA by a point or two could directly lead to winning MI, WI, and PA by a point or two - a trade I'd gladly make.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (/nCD+)
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114 >>>I can easily imagine a sliver of Trump voters who prefer RFK because of covid and nostalgia for the Democrat Party as it "was"...Camelot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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The older contingent that fear covid want the shot. They fear Kennedy.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (0ZYe2)
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But they can be mad about Trump for covid while also wanting the return of the Democrat Party as it was. That's the connection I was implying (that I should have made more explicit.)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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The older contingent that fear covid want the shot. They fear Kennedy.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 01:41 PM (0ZYe2)
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But they can be mad about Trump for covid while also wanting the return of the Democrat Party as it was. That's the connection I was implying (that I should have made more explicit.)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO)
124
Guessing that's snark but for those not up on ancient history:
Sirhan Sirhan whose family was Rosicrucian Lebanese was afraid that RFK would support Israel too much.
It's not a conspiracy - that is what Sirhan Sirhan said. And his writings were full of anti-Semitic hate.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (xhfG9)
OK...I was in JrHigh then....didn't follow current events as closely.
Sirhan Sirhan whose family was Rosicrucian Lebanese was afraid that RFK would support Israel too much.
It's not a conspiracy - that is what Sirhan Sirhan said. And his writings were full of anti-Semitic hate.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (xhfG9)
OK...I was in JrHigh then....didn't follow current events as closely.
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (AwYPR)
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40 Why did Sirhan shoot RFK? Anyone remember?
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (AwYPR
Palestine.
Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 01:30 PM (AwYPR
Palestine.
Posted by: Eromero at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (o2ZRX)
126
Oh, the state law is glitched.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (P9xGM)
It never took into account that retarded Democrats can't schedule a convention ahead of state deadlines. Totally unconstitutional.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 01:37 PM (P9xGM)
It never took into account that retarded Democrats can't schedule a convention ahead of state deadlines. Totally unconstitutional.
Posted by: spindrift at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (OguvZ)
127
Fair Warning was best Van Halen.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (xPJvm)
128
OT-Unrelated note. Somebody i know works at college (He's not a professor) and a number of his colleagues belong to GLOW-"Gay, Lesbian OR whatever"
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Part of what is so off-putting about adults who are fascinated by their genitalia is that everything has to be super gay.
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Part of what is so off-putting about adults who are fascinated by their genitalia is that everything has to be super gay.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 01:43 PM (ONUvy)
129
A large percentage of Libertarians will be voting Trump rather than supporting the lefty the party nominated. I can't wait to see how that impacts the VA numbers.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 01:43 PM (ogTiX)
130
The funniest thing about Torricelli is that he lived in Bucks County (Pa.) the entire time he was a Senator from NJ
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:43 PM (xh+ZO)
131
106 With these "head-to-head vs three-way" polls, how are they executed?
by flinging them from the carousel and seeing who survives
by flinging them from the carousel and seeing who survives
Posted by: anachronda at May 30, 2024 01:44 PM (v3pYe)
132
Fair Warning was best Van Halen.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (xPJvm)
Impossible for me to pick a best. However -- the opening track "Mean Street" is insanely good and so much better than a lot of their singles/hits
Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 30, 2024 01:42 PM (xPJvm)
Impossible for me to pick a best. However -- the opening track "Mean Street" is insanely good and so much better than a lot of their singles/hits
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:44 PM (v6Olo)
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I'm giving you Fair Warning that if you look it up you'll see that it is called "Unchained"
I'll trust you on that. Your knowledge of 80's rock is better than mine.
I'll trust you on that. Your knowledge of 80's rock is better than mine.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (dZVON)
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129 A large percentage of Libertarians will be voting Trump rather than supporting the lefty the party nominated. I can't wait to see how that impacts the VA numbers.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 01:43 PM (ogTiX)
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I suspect that the LP's historical average of 1% of the national vote will be replicated in 2024.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 01:43 PM (ogTiX)
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I suspect that the LP's historical average of 1% of the national vote will be replicated in 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)
135
Tied, close, within the margin of error, slightly ahead: these are all just ways of saying not enough to beat the margin of fraud. I assume the purpose of these polls is just to show a close enough race to explain Biden's win in November. Gird your loins for the comeback stories.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (PoEmG)
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116 Hey Doof! Unchained opens with epic tapped harmonics even Joe Satriani finds difficult to do.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (rmVUs)
Posted by: Kamala Harris in a Pensive Mood at May 30, 2024 01:46 PM (woPEM)
138
Dang it, I mean Mean Street. Not unchained.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:46 PM (rmVUs)
139
The funniest thing about Torricelli is that he lived in Bucks County (Pa.) the entire time he was a Senator from NJ
Posted by: Huck Follywood
As funny as 4th stage syphilis. This country needs remediation.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
As funny as 4th stage syphilis. This country needs remediation.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 01:46 PM (IG4Id)
140
105 Mystery '80's lyrics:
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do
Van Roth. Better than Van Hagar. Probably because I am old.
Kidding! I am 29.
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do
Van Roth. Better than Van Hagar. Probably because I am old.
Kidding! I am 29.
Posted by: Piper at May 30, 2024 01:47 PM (pRpzT)
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128 Part of what is so off-putting about adults who are fascinated by their genitalia is that everything has to be super gay.
gay-el, kal-el's fabulous cousin
gay-el, kal-el's fabulous cousin
Posted by: anachronda at May 30, 2024 01:47 PM (v3pYe)
142
135 Tied, close, within the margin of error, slightly ahead: these are all just ways of saying not enough to beat the margin of fraud. I assume the purpose of these polls is just to show a close enough race to explain Biden's win in November. Gird your loins for the comeback stories.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (PoEmG)
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Polling is deeply broken.
Last year, the final polls of the Louisiana governor's race showed the race neck and neck at 40-40, guaranteed to go to a runoff.
The Republican won 51-25 (the other two candidates getting the bulk of the rest).
At this point, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to the outlawing of public polling. I mean, free speech and all, but come on.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (PoEmG)
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Polling is deeply broken.
Last year, the final polls of the Louisiana governor's race showed the race neck and neck at 40-40, guaranteed to go to a runoff.
The Republican won 51-25 (the other two candidates getting the bulk of the rest).
At this point, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to the outlawing of public polling. I mean, free speech and all, but come on.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)
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I'll trust you on that. Your knowledge of 80's rock is better than mine.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (dZVON)
Appreciate the deference!! BTW - my use of "Fair Warning" was a reference to the album on which the song "Unchained" appeared. I'm sure a few morons caught that
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 30, 2024 01:45 PM (dZVON)
Appreciate the deference!! BTW - my use of "Fair Warning" was a reference to the album on which the song "Unchained" appeared. I'm sure a few morons caught that
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:48 PM (v6Olo)
144
140 Come on Dave, gimme a break
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:48 PM (rmVUs)
145
It's good to remember that third party candidates jill stein and gary johnson literally cost hillary the states of Michigan and Wisconsin during the election in 2016.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:48 PM (QNSds)
146
In my opinion, I think the Dem's Torricelli option is to be played post election, not pre election. E.g. Hand over the Presidency to Kamala.
No other Dem polls better than Joe so they're going to ride him to the election, and lie, cheat, and steal to try to put over the top.
Then the switch-a-roo.
No other Dem polls better than Joe so they're going to ride him to the election, and lie, cheat, and steal to try to put over the top.
Then the switch-a-roo.
Posted by: WIsRich at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (G0vdT)
147
RFK Jr is for late term abortion and "trans" child chopping. That's gonna cost Biden votes, not Trump.
Posted by: callsign claymore
Also, his numerous allegiances for the destruction of the coal and oil industry needs to be front and center when anyone seriously suggests he is a candidate, let alone a viable one.
Posted by: callsign claymore
Also, his numerous allegiances for the destruction of the coal and oil industry needs to be front and center when anyone seriously suggests he is a candidate, let alone a viable one.
Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (F3Dlr)
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The funniest thing about Torricelli is that he lived in Bucks County (Pa.) the entire time he was a Senator from NJ
Posted by: Huck Follywood
When Senator Rick Santorum from Pennsylvania was in office the lefties claimed he was never living here in the state.
The funniest thing about Torricelli is that he lived in Bucks County (Pa.) the entire time he was a Senator from NJ
Posted by: Huck Follywood
When Senator Rick Santorum from Pennsylvania was in office the lefties claimed he was never living here in the state.
Posted by: Rick Santorum at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (RKVpM)
149
Dang it, I mean Mean Street. Not unchained.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:46 PM (rmVUs)
Knew what you meant -- all good!
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 30, 2024 01:46 PM (rmVUs)
Knew what you meant -- all good!
Posted by: Doof at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (v6Olo)
150
Polling is deeply broken.
No, like everything else in America, it is manipulated to show a result someone wants to support a narrative.
No, like everything else in America, it is manipulated to show a result someone wants to support a narrative.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (PoEmG)
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145 It's good to remember that third party candidates jill stein and gary johnson literally cost hillary the states of Michigan and Wisconsin during the election in 2016.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:48 PM (QNSds)
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Detroit not cheating enough cost Hillary the election in 2016.
In Jill Stein's lawsuit against Michigan in 2017, it was discovered that Detroit said there were ballot boxes with 1,000 ballots in it that only had 10.
How long has Detroit been doing that? Have they stopped? What is the actual politics of Michigan?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:48 PM (QNSds)
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Detroit not cheating enough cost Hillary the election in 2016.
In Jill Stein's lawsuit against Michigan in 2017, it was discovered that Detroit said there were ballot boxes with 1,000 ballots in it that only had 10.
How long has Detroit been doing that? Have they stopped? What is the actual politics of Michigan?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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That disgusting cross between Alcie Cooper and Howard Stern Mrs Dr Biden is hinting again that the fix is in.
Same as last time.
That disgusting cross between Alcie Cooper and Howard Stern Mrs Dr Biden is hinting again that the fix is in.
Same as last time.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 30, 2024 01:50 PM (et1vG)
153
Saying polling is broken is like saying US immigration policy is broken. It isn't. It does exactly what the people in charge intend it to do.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:50 PM (PoEmG)
154
I only found out this, from Rick Beato, I think, that the very beginning of Hot For Teacher is not drumming at all, but Eddie's Ferrari stuttering along at idle.
Posted by: spindrift at May 30, 2024 01:50 PM (OguvZ)
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150 Polling is deeply broken.
No, like everything else in America, it is manipulated to show a result someone wants to support a narrative.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (PoEmG)
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Well, it's that too.
But polling is an expensive, difficult process in modern times where pick up rates are very low and area code long ago stopped reflecting physical location.
And media polls won't pay to fix that sort of thing, so they bake in a mountain of assumptions about how the election will go in order to make up for it.
So, even when they do try, they're working a broken system.
No, like everything else in America, it is manipulated to show a result someone wants to support a narrative.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:49 PM (PoEmG)
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Well, it's that too.
But polling is an expensive, difficult process in modern times where pick up rates are very low and area code long ago stopped reflecting physical location.
And media polls won't pay to fix that sort of thing, so they bake in a mountain of assumptions about how the election will go in order to make up for it.
So, even when they do try, they're working a broken system.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:51 PM (GBKbO)
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Virginia law has been changed in a way that seems to have actually improved the security of elections. BUT there is still the capability. When Spannberger lost her race they managed to find a thumb drive that had 84000 votes that were ALL - as in every single one - for Spannberger. And she won.
Not much can be done about that level of fraud.
Posted by: blaster
Do you have a cite for that?
Not much can be done about that level of fraud.
Posted by: blaster
Do you have a cite for that?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 01:52 PM (xCA6C)
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How long has Detroit been doing that? Have they stopped? What is the actual politics of Michigan?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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There are gadsden flags all over the place. South Detroit must be the Dem stronghold.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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There are gadsden flags all over the place. South Detroit must be the Dem stronghold.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 01:52 PM (ogTiX)
158
Speaking of the switcheroo…. It can be done if you have access to George Costanza’s unique brand of dementia. Will the Dems consult with George? Will they end up in a menage a trois?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 30, 2024 01:52 PM (xT8gx)
159
Just a reminder: most of the big Kennedy fans are dead. Boomers were kids. Both my grandmother and aunt loved JFK, both passed on.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 30, 2024 01:52 PM (xjTDL)
160
48 Happy real birthday to JJ Sefton, a man we can all support for Secretary of Something Or Other.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (xh+ZO)
This! I believe that today is his actual birthday
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (xh+ZO)
This! I believe that today is his actual birthday
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM (AyiRE)
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To give RFK his due, he's mostly widely known as "anti vax" but this is part of a much broader, well articulated platform of dismantling the Chronic Illness industry known more popularly as Big Pharma.
And he's viscerally, burn-down-the-deep-state-intelligence apparatus.
He's also a genuine environmentalist, who sees that our beautiful country is getting even more pieced up and degraded than it needs to be by the "Green energy" and "carbon" scams
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be doing all we can to get DJT in the White House, but the appeal to thoughtful conservatives is more than superficial.
And he's viscerally, burn-down-the-deep-state-intelligence apparatus.
He's also a genuine environmentalist, who sees that our beautiful country is getting even more pieced up and degraded than it needs to be by the "Green energy" and "carbon" scams
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be doing all we can to get DJT in the White House, but the appeal to thoughtful conservatives is more than superficial.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM (5FPX4)
162
This is obviously a dumb question, but what happens if Biden doesn't make it to November?
As much as I loath the Democrat party, I don't imagine there wouldn't be calls to place a replacement.
Or at least have a mechanism to do so.
Does Biden stay on the ballot and it become Harris?
As much as I loath the Democrat party, I don't imagine there wouldn't be calls to place a replacement.
Or at least have a mechanism to do so.
Does Biden stay on the ballot and it become Harris?
Posted by: Inogame at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM (53oGX)
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135 Tied, close, within the margin of error, slightly ahead: these are all just ways of saying not enough to beat the margin of fraud. I assume the purpose of these polls is just to show a close enough race to explain Biden's win in November. Gird your loins for the comeback stories.
Posted by: This is Bad News
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Trump tends to perform better than polling suggests--a variant on the Bradley effect and Shy Tory polling patterns.
For the most part, historically presidents with 38 percent approval rating do not win reelection.
Best way right now to take polls as simply trend indicators. The tide is rolling out for Biden-Harris and he has about two months or so to change the tide. Lawfare has failed as a political tactic (remains to be seen how it falls out in appellate courts or whether he is put in jail). Then you have the various invade the world, invite the world scenarios--Ukraine, China, the border, etc. that all promise unpleasant results.
Then there is cheating---it helps that Ronna and the legal all is well creeps have been expelled from the RNC, it also helps that third parties that are ostensibly non political are suing to get voter lists purged in many states.
Posted by: This is Bad News
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Trump tends to perform better than polling suggests--a variant on the Bradley effect and Shy Tory polling patterns.
For the most part, historically presidents with 38 percent approval rating do not win reelection.
Best way right now to take polls as simply trend indicators. The tide is rolling out for Biden-Harris and he has about two months or so to change the tide. Lawfare has failed as a political tactic (remains to be seen how it falls out in appellate courts or whether he is put in jail). Then you have the various invade the world, invite the world scenarios--Ukraine, China, the border, etc. that all promise unpleasant results.
Then there is cheating---it helps that Ronna and the legal all is well creeps have been expelled from the RNC, it also helps that third parties that are ostensibly non political are suing to get voter lists purged in many states.
Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM (PkS4e)
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Does Biden stay on the ballot and it become Harris?
Posted by: Inogame
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Probably what happened in Missouri in the Ashcroft-Carnahan race. Carnahan stayed on the ballot and Ashcroft lost to a dead man.
Posted by: Inogame
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Probably what happened in Missouri in the Ashcroft-Carnahan race. Carnahan stayed on the ballot and Ashcroft lost to a dead man.
Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 01:54 PM (PkS4e)
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Leftist CA Senator has had it with CA Democrats. "I'm done with us protecting people who would buy and abuse our children." She's leaving the Senate and she finally finds the guts to stand up for the victims. Even as she's saying "enough," she has to make assurances she's against jailing black and brown people.
http://tiny.cc/1xyayz
http://tiny.cc/1xyayz
Posted by: bonhomme at May 30, 2024 01:54 PM (R38qh)
166
We'll know who thinks JFK Jr. will take votes from by the political hit jobs aired.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (WBEOS)
167
The funniest thing about Torricelli is that he lived in Bucks County (Pa.) the entire time he was a Senator from NJ
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Wait until you find out where I live!
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Wait until you find out where I live!
Posted by: Cory Booker, Manhattanite! at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (uxCna)
168
hahaha
A quick search yields comedy gold:
"Claire Woodall-Vogg, Milwaukee’s chief election official, briefly misplaced a flash drive containing vote counts on Election Night, she said in a Nov. 9 letter to the Wisconsin Elections Commission...
She called a member of her team, who retrieved the flash drive from the machine, and a police officer delivered it shortly afterward.
“I believe it is important to document that the flash drive was never left unattended and that the staff had remained in the room throughout the process,” Woodall-Vogg said, adding, “The incident bears no impact on the validity of the results.”
https://tinyurl.com/26qdy7bo
It was always in possession of election officials or police, conspiracy theorists!!!
A quick search yields comedy gold:
"Claire Woodall-Vogg, Milwaukee’s chief election official, briefly misplaced a flash drive containing vote counts on Election Night, she said in a Nov. 9 letter to the Wisconsin Elections Commission...
She called a member of her team, who retrieved the flash drive from the machine, and a police officer delivered it shortly afterward.
“I believe it is important to document that the flash drive was never left unattended and that the staff had remained in the room throughout the process,” Woodall-Vogg said, adding, “The incident bears no impact on the validity of the results.”
https://tinyurl.com/26qdy7bo
It was always in possession of election officials or police, conspiracy theorists!!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (ONUvy)
169
I told you that RFKJr pulls more Trump support than Biden.
When you have a ruling class nominee vs two outsider nominees, guess how that vote total baby is split?
When you have a ruling class nominee vs two outsider nominees, guess how that vote total baby is split?
Posted by: Defenestratus at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (xcUue)
170
This is obviously a dumb question, but what happens if Biden doesn't make it to November?
As much as I loath the Democrat party, I don't imagine there wouldn't be calls to place a replacement.
Or at least have a mechanism to do so.
Does Biden stay on the ballot and it become Harris?
Posted by: Inogame at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM
It depends on the State and how late in the process they are. We had a guy who was running for district commissioner who pulled out of the race at the last minute due to health reasons. His name was still on the ballot and he got a crap ton of votes.
As much as I loath the Democrat party, I don't imagine there wouldn't be calls to place a replacement.
Or at least have a mechanism to do so.
Does Biden stay on the ballot and it become Harris?
Posted by: Inogame at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM
It depends on the State and how late in the process they are. We had a guy who was running for district commissioner who pulled out of the race at the last minute due to health reasons. His name was still on the ballot and he got a crap ton of votes.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (QNSds)
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Virginia law has been changed in a way that seems to have actually improved the security of elections. BUT there is still the capability. When Spannberger lost her race they managed to find a thumb drive that had 84000 votes that were ALL - as in every single one - for Spannberger. And she won.
Not much can be done about that level of fraud.
Posted by: blaster
Do you have a cite for that?
I assume this is what you're referring to, but it doesn't really line up with what you say. That is certainly not to say that it isn't highly suspicious.
https://tinyurl.com/2p89vt56
Not much can be done about that level of fraud.
Posted by: blaster
Do you have a cite for that?
I assume this is what you're referring to, but it doesn't really line up with what you say. That is certainly not to say that it isn't highly suspicious.
https://tinyurl.com/2p89vt56
Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 01:56 PM (xCA6C)
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My 2024 election prediction: Shenanigans.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 01:56 PM (5FPX4)
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Part of what is so off-putting about adults who are fascinated by their genitalia is that everything has to be super gay.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Women in pussy hats wailing their lungs out in fear that Trump would somehow vanquish all birth control from the planet enter the conversation.
Sex sells on aoshq.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Women in pussy hats wailing their lungs out in fear that Trump would somehow vanquish all birth control from the planet enter the conversation.
Sex sells on aoshq.
Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 01:56 PM (F3Dlr)
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It would be a tragedy if Biden were to pass away post convention thus throwing the Dems into turmoil. Yup a real tragedy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 30, 2024 01:57 PM (wu1+q)
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I wonder if it's starting to dawn on some folks that convicting Trump is their ENTIRE reelection strategy?
That they have nothing else?
It's:
1) convict Trump
2) ...??
3) victory!
NB: His State of the Union was to be the launch (re-launch?) of his reelection. Not just laying out his super awesome record but the great bag of gimmies he was gonna hand out.
And it flopped.
Flopped hard.
No one saw it, no one cared and all the King's horses and all the King's men all saturating the airways with effusive praise ... flopped even harder. So badly that no one was talking about it even 2 days later.
That they have nothing else?
It's:
1) convict Trump
2) ...??
3) victory!
NB: His State of the Union was to be the launch (re-launch?) of his reelection. Not just laying out his super awesome record but the great bag of gimmies he was gonna hand out.
And it flopped.
Flopped hard.
No one saw it, no one cared and all the King's horses and all the King's men all saturating the airways with effusive praise ... flopped even harder. So badly that no one was talking about it even 2 days later.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 01:57 PM (g9W3m)
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I'm not saying that we shouldn't be doing all we can to get DJT in the White House, but the appeal to thoughtful conservatives is more than superficial.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM
I suspect that thoughtful conservatives can see the good 5% and say, "No fvcking way" to the other 95% which is basically the fourth term of Obama/Biden.
I'm not sure what the real playbook is in this but if this is a leftist idea it's like everything else - they done fvcked up.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be doing all we can to get DJT in the White House, but the appeal to thoughtful conservatives is more than superficial.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 01:53 PM
I suspect that thoughtful conservatives can see the good 5% and say, "No fvcking way" to the other 95% which is basically the fourth term of Obama/Biden.
I'm not sure what the real playbook is in this but if this is a leftist idea it's like everything else - they done fvcked up.
Posted by: Rick Santorum at May 30, 2024 01:58 PM (RKVpM)
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The spirit of aloha and pupu platters demands that Joe Biden be on the ballot in all states.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
That fuckin' Haole?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
That fuckin' Haole?
Posted by: some Moke at May 30, 2024 01:58 PM (v0R5T)
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Kennedy is an op.
His purpose is to help explain Biden's win: either by claiming he siphoned off Trump votes or by a late withdrawal after which his supporters break for Biden. The other side is working backward from a preordained result. It doesn't matter whether that's actually true in terms of voting, it's what the counting will show.
His purpose is to help explain Biden's win: either by claiming he siphoned off Trump votes or by a late withdrawal after which his supporters break for Biden. The other side is working backward from a preordained result. It doesn't matter whether that's actually true in terms of voting, it's what the counting will show.
Posted by: This is Bad News at May 30, 2024 01:59 PM (PoEmG)
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The amazing thing about JFK was that when he was unalived, it upset people on both sides.
Can't see that shit ever happening again.
Can't see that shit ever happening again.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:00 PM (RlXwv)
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I'm not saying that we shouldn't be doing all we can to get DJT in the White House, but the appeal to thoughtful conservatives is more than superficial.
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Hopefully thoughtful conservatives have the brainpower to figure out 200% food inflation. Thoughtfully.
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Hopefully thoughtful conservatives have the brainpower to figure out 200% food inflation. Thoughtfully.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 02:00 PM (ONUvy)
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Fake convention for a fake candidate. The Bidens are the best at what the do.
Posted by: lost in space at May 30, 2024 02:00 PM (37MVd)
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Tied is not enough to beat the cheat.
Posted by: who is John Gault ? at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM (fFFrU)
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I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
Anyways back to work.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM (5FPX4)
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Judge Juan Merchan is allowing his daughter’s clients access inside his lawfare trial against President Donald Trump.
It appears we found the criminal in this case. He’s the one in the robe.
It appears we found the criminal in this case. He’s the one in the robe.
Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM (S3cbw)
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It was 15,000 ballots, and the explanation is that they were 'absentee' ballots which the machine didn't initially count.
https://tinyurl.com/ybfwa7pd
https://tinyurl.com/ybfwa7pd
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (/nCD+)
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Wait until you find out where I live!
Posted by: Cory Booker, Manhattanite! at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (uxCna)
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Right where I lived when I was NJ governor
Posted by: Cory Booker, Manhattanite! at May 30, 2024 01:55 PM (uxCna)
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Right where I lived when I was NJ governor
Posted by: John Corzine at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (4gvj9)
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There will be plenty of mail in ballots, but election day, when the (R)'s show up? Oops, ran out.
There will be plenty of mail in ballots, but election day, when the (R)'s show up? Oops, ran out.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (RKVpM)
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As a thoughtful conservative, I will thoughtfully be voting for Trump while extending said middle finger thoughtfully to RINOs, nevertrumpers, commies, LGBTHVHJKJSIETHSKE+++--- and Seattle Mariner fans everywhere in a thoughtful way
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (DBZuM)
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No other Dem polls better than Joe so they're going to ride him to the election, and lie, cheat, and steal to try to put over the top.
Then the switch-a-roo.
Posted by: WIsRich
That would be admitting that Bidet's candidacy was fraudulent. Kakala as Pres would start a civil war in the Executive Branch. Not to mention it would give China the go ahead on Taiwan, and any other number of impending conflicts around the globe would kick off.
So, that would be the 2nd best outcome of the election if they did.
Then the switch-a-roo.
Posted by: WIsRich
That would be admitting that Bidet's candidacy was fraudulent. Kakala as Pres would start a civil war in the Executive Branch. Not to mention it would give China the go ahead on Taiwan, and any other number of impending conflicts around the globe would kick off.
So, that would be the 2nd best outcome of the election if they did.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (IG4Id)
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CNN
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A third person in the US has tested positive for H5 bird flu in connection to an outbreak in dairy cattle, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said Thursday. This is the second human case reported in the state.
CNN
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A third person in the US has tested positive for H5 bird flu in connection to an outbreak in dairy cattle, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said Thursday. This is the second human case reported in the state.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (63Dwl)
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It's cute that Poppin' Fresh thinks the rule of law matters to Democrats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (GpgfZ)
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I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM (5FPX4)
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He's a loon. A totalitarian loon.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM (5FPX4)
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He's a loon. A totalitarian loon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (4gvj9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (h8CK2)
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He's a loon. A totalitarian loon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (4gvj9)
Agreed
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (4gvj9)
Agreed
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:03 PM (Akjoo)
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Yes, people hate RFK. That's probably it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 02:04 PM (ONUvy)
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"A third person in the US has tested positive for H5 bird flu in connection to an outbreak in dairy cattle, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said Thursday. This is the second human case reported in the state."
If this follows the same path as Mpox it will turn out that three people in the United States have f*cked a chicken. Ok , now really back to work.
If this follows the same path as Mpox it will turn out that three people in the United States have f*cked a chicken. Ok , now really back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:04 PM (5FPX4)
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It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (xh+ZO)
Tribalism. Total adhesion to an ideology. They will never change. Ever.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 01:28 PM (xh+ZO)
Tribalism. Total adhesion to an ideology. They will never change. Ever.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (iODuv)
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Mystery '80's lyrics:
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (BdDcY)
Panama. Van Halen
Woo hoo! Take a look at this!
Hey man, that suit is you!
Woo-whee! You'll get some leg tonight for sure!
Tell us how you do!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 30, 2024 01:38 PM (BdDcY)
Panama. Van Halen
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (FCbAQ)
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Posted by: who is John Gault ? at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM (fFFrU)
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Out of curiosity, is that misspelled on purpose or is it just mistyping? (I ask as a frequent mis-typer myself)
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Out of curiosity, is that misspelled on purpose or is it just mistyping? (I ask as a frequent mis-typer myself)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (4gvj9)
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Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 01:56 PM (F3Dlr)
What's really freaky is those hats were produced for Hillary's anointing and then retconned to be some kind of weapon against Trump.
That is what they planned for Hillary. A vagina parade. It was all part of the fake Women Women Women operation which was intended to crush any dissent to Her Smelly Thighness.
And just a couple short years later like a shot, they turned and immediately began lecturing us that anybody can be a woman if they just want it bad enough.
These people are the most sick disturbed refuse on the planet.
What's really freaky is those hats were produced for Hillary's anointing and then retconned to be some kind of weapon against Trump.
That is what they planned for Hillary. A vagina parade. It was all part of the fake Women Women Women operation which was intended to crush any dissent to Her Smelly Thighness.
And just a couple short years later like a shot, they turned and immediately began lecturing us that anybody can be a woman if they just want it bad enough.
These people are the most sick disturbed refuse on the planet.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (RlXwv)
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> I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
He wanted to jail people for not taking the Covid shot. He's for abortion on demand up to birth. He's all in on environmental totalitarianism. He's a nutbar who should NEVER be in a position of power.
He wanted to jail people for not taking the Covid shot. He's for abortion on demand up to birth. He's all in on environmental totalitarianism. He's a nutbar who should NEVER be in a position of power.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (R38qh)
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"Most of the drones live outside of DC and commute in for the same reason that most of the drones live in places like San Jose and commute in to San Francisco."
When I was in the Navy and stationed in Arlington, VA 30 years ago, we had a female Ensign in our office who insisted on living on Capitol Hill because -- well, I don't know, because she went to [insert name of all-female hoity-toity Massachusetts liberal arts college]. In the next few months both her apartment and car were broken into. I think they took her TV and her car radio. Hilarious.
When I was in the Navy and stationed in Arlington, VA 30 years ago, we had a female Ensign in our office who insisted on living on Capitol Hill because -- well, I don't know, because she went to [insert name of all-female hoity-toity Massachusetts liberal arts college]. In the next few months both her apartment and car were broken into. I think they took her TV and her car radio. Hilarious.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (qUkBO)
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I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM
Not hate, but please spend five minutes reading the Wiki page on RFK Jr and ask yourself how that man represents anything other then the same anti-prosperity policies which Obama and Biden have pushed.
I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM
Not hate, but please spend five minutes reading the Wiki page on RFK Jr and ask yourself how that man represents anything other then the same anti-prosperity policies which Obama and Biden have pushed.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (RKVpM)
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His grand gesture to the Arabs, the pier, was to give them B-roll footage of cheering brown folks, smiling as Mr. U.S Soldier paternally hands out food.
It sunk harder than Stormy for a g-note.
We saw the lament earlier, that if only blacks knew all the great things Biden has done for them.
Except ... notable for its glaring absence is actually listing all the great things.
Oh. And if you can't smell the stink of desperation, we have a acute case if Election-Onset Sudden Recovered Memory:
A unnamed (naturally) "producer " on the Apprentice now is alleging they heard Trump use a racial slur.
It sunk harder than Stormy for a g-note.
We saw the lament earlier, that if only blacks knew all the great things Biden has done for them.
Except ... notable for its glaring absence is actually listing all the great things.
Oh. And if you can't smell the stink of desperation, we have a acute case if Election-Onset Sudden Recovered Memory:
A unnamed (naturally) "producer " on the Apprentice now is alleging they heard Trump use a racial slur.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (g9W3m)
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It is crazy that 42% of any state voters, even federal workers in NoVa, could support the Junta train-wreck of the Biden "presidency"
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It's probably similar to the COVID lockdowns. They are fine. Matter of fact, they're enjoying the vacation. Screw everyone else that has lost a job or can't feed their family.
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It's probably similar to the COVID lockdowns. They are fine. Matter of fact, they're enjoying the vacation. Screw everyone else that has lost a job or can't feed their family.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (ONUvy)
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That would be admitting that Bidet's candidacy was fraudulent. Kakala as Pres would start a civil war in the Executive Branch. Not to mention it would give China the go ahead on Taiwan, and any other number of impending conflicts around the globe would kick off.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (IG4Id)
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Like the Peter Parker Meme:
Dems:"I already told you I'm good with this. No need to sell it to me!"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:02 PM (IG4Id)
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Like the Peter Parker Meme:
Dems:"I already told you I'm good with this. No need to sell it to me!"
Posted by: WIsRich at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (G0vdT)
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They are going to have a hard time pinning covid on Trump.
There are too many clips of him saying - no lock downs, - it's your choice, - there are many alternative medications (not his word), - I took monoclonal antibodies and I feel ten years younger.
There's also the timeline of what was done and what was known when those things were done. In the rush at the time and over time these things become confused but Trump has a good A/V team that can illustrate those events clearly in Trump's favor.
There are too many clips of him saying - no lock downs, - it's your choice, - there are many alternative medications (not his word), - I took monoclonal antibodies and I feel ten years younger.
There's also the timeline of what was done and what was known when those things were done. In the rush at the time and over time these things become confused but Trump has a good A/V team that can illustrate those events clearly in Trump's favor.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:07 PM (0ZYe2)
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"- my use of "Fair Warning" was a reference to the album on which the song "Unchained" appeared. I'm sure a few morons caught that"
Never apologize, never explain. -3
Never apologize, never explain. -3
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at May 30, 2024 02:07 PM (Z8Yh2)
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RFK said NRA members are terrorists.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 30, 2024 02:08 PM (R38qh)
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What's Judge Aberchan up to now?
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:08 PM (RlXwv)
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I wonder if Fake Judge Merchan will replace any jurors with alternates during the "find Trump guilty" phase of the show trial?
Lets say the jury appears to be headed to deadlock, and one juror is the problem, will the corrupt court act corruptly to further subvert the legal system by dumping the recalcitrant juror? Sounds crazy, yes, but this whole mess is crazy.
Lets say the jury appears to be headed to deadlock, and one juror is the problem, will the corrupt court act corruptly to further subvert the legal system by dumping the recalcitrant juror? Sounds crazy, yes, but this whole mess is crazy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:09 PM (4gvj9)
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Sorry folks but, even if Trump wins in a huge, cannot be disputed, landslide..... He can't fix this. The junta in control of this former Republic has poisoned and broken everything to the point that it simply cannot be fixed.
It wasn't Biden, he's just the puppet. The real junta is carefully hidden. They wanted to destroy our country and they did. Even if Trump wins, their poison won't be scrubbed out. There is too much of it, too deeply embedded to clean it out.
It doesn't matter what we the people want. They do not fear us. They wanted power and destruction. They got it.
I really wish I didn't believe this.
It wasn't Biden, he's just the puppet. The real junta is carefully hidden. They wanted to destroy our country and they did. Even if Trump wins, their poison won't be scrubbed out. There is too much of it, too deeply embedded to clean it out.
It doesn't matter what we the people want. They do not fear us. They wanted power and destruction. They got it.
I really wish I didn't believe this.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:09 PM (4XwPj)
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210 What's Judge Aberchan up to now?
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:08 PM (RlXwv)
Destroying what's left of the Judicial system
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:08 PM (RlXwv)
Destroying what's left of the Judicial system
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:09 PM (Akjoo)
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It doesn't matter what we the people want. They do not fear us. They wanted power and destruction. They got it.
I really wish I didn't believe this.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
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Yep. As someone else, maybe you, posted, the problem is that we are at this point. Stolen elections, Trump trial, political prisoners, etc.
There's not a "back" to go back to.
I really wish I didn't believe this.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
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Yep. As someone else, maybe you, posted, the problem is that we are at this point. Stolen elections, Trump trial, political prisoners, etc.
There's not a "back" to go back to.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Did anyone ever manage to think of a benefit to men in marriage? at May 30, 2024 02:10 PM (ONUvy)
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I wonder if Fake Judge Merchan will replace any jurors with alternates during the "find Trump guilty" phase of the show trial?
*************
Oh dont be silly
Of course he will
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Oh dont be silly
Of course he will
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:10 PM (DBZuM)
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There is no such thing as "beat the cheat" or "margin of fraud." The "margin of fraud" does not exist, as was demonstrated in 2020.
The root premise of the "margin of fraud" concept was shown to be incorrect, and therefore the concept is incorrect. The premise underpinning the concept is that in order to win, the non-Party guy has to win by so much that the Party can't steal it without being slap-in-the-face obvious about it, because that was a line that could not be crossed without causing an existential crisis that the Party might not survive. I subscribed to this idea, too, and was given exactly that slap in the face in 2020.
The 2020 cheat was so outrageous, public, obvious and coordinated that its success demonstrated that the line *could* be crossed without significant consequence for the Party. The root premise was incorrect, and as a result so is the entire "margin of fraud" concept.
Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
The root premise of the "margin of fraud" concept was shown to be incorrect, and therefore the concept is incorrect. The premise underpinning the concept is that in order to win, the non-Party guy has to win by so much that the Party can't steal it without being slap-in-the-face obvious about it, because that was a line that could not be crossed without causing an existential crisis that the Party might not survive. I subscribed to this idea, too, and was given exactly that slap in the face in 2020.
The 2020 cheat was so outrageous, public, obvious and coordinated that its success demonstrated that the line *could* be crossed without significant consequence for the Party. The root premise was incorrect, and as a result so is the entire "margin of fraud" concept.
Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (d04cU)
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3rd party candidates never "pull from" anyone. Everyone knows who the 2 major candidates are. Everyone also knows there's no requirement to vote.
If you go through all the trouble of voting to pull the lever for a 3rd party candidate, you never had any real interest in voting for the R or D
If you go through all the trouble of voting to pull the lever for a 3rd party candidate, you never had any real interest in voting for the R or D
Posted by: Wally at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (CIRfI)
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Looks like Youngkin just got one step closer to the VP pick. Does he have any deep state ties?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
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A unnamed (naturally) "producer " on the Apprentice now is alleging they heard Trump use a racial slur.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (g9W3m)
And never came forward with this amazing story because it was really hard to get any criticism or negative stories about Trump out there?
Maybe Mandela Effect but I think I actually kind of remember this l from the original 2016 campaign. It was obvious bs but perhaps they're recycling it now because why not.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (g9W3m)
And never came forward with this amazing story because it was really hard to get any criticism or negative stories about Trump out there?
Maybe Mandela Effect but I think I actually kind of remember this l from the original 2016 campaign. It was obvious bs but perhaps they're recycling it now because why not.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (RlXwv)
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The only pole about which this busty bikini blonde on the beach cares is one that can make her some money:
http://tiny.cc/3yyayz
http://tiny.cc/3yyayz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:12 PM (d04cU)
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Looks like Youngkin just got one step closer to the VP pick. Does he have any deep state ties?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
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Is he prominent politician?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
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Is he prominent politician?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:12 PM (d04cU)
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216 Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (d04cU)
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I mean...I thought I was blackpilled.
I leave open some wiggle room for there to be successful legal efforts to beat things back.
1-3%. Sure, it's not much, but it's something!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (d04cU)
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I mean...I thought I was blackpilled.
I leave open some wiggle room for there to be successful legal efforts to beat things back.
1-3%. Sure, it's not much, but it's something!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:12 PM (GBKbO)
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"on the Apprentice now is alleging they heard Trump use a racial slur."
Didn't this already come out in 2020?
Didn't this already come out in 2020?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:12 PM (Ectld)
Posted by: Ross Perot at May 30, 2024 02:13 PM (AR07F)
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so Democrats will land this plane on our own.
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The plane is a Boeing, so this will definitely turn out well.
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The plane is a Boeing, so this will definitely turn out well.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:13 PM (YqDXo)
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Yeah, RFK's a totalitarian nutcase.
There's nothing in his past or present and I suspect future to appeal to conservatives, thoughtful or no.
He swerved into being correct about the vax. That's it.
Otherwise, he's just one more Democrat dictatorial socialist.
Do. Not. Want.
Yeah, RFK's a totalitarian nutcase.
There's nothing in his past or present and I suspect future to appeal to conservatives, thoughtful or no.
He swerved into being correct about the vax. That's it.
Otherwise, he's just one more Democrat dictatorial socialist.
Do. Not. Want.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2024 02:13 PM (eDfFs)
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I mean...I thought I was blackpilled.
I leave open some wiggle room for there to be successful legal efforts to beat things back.
1-3%. Sure, it's not much, but it's something!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:12 PM (GBKbO)
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When it comes to federal elections - their legitimacy *or* their usefulness - my pill is so black that they need to define a new color for it.
State may be a different story depending on where you live, ditto local.
I leave open some wiggle room for there to be successful legal efforts to beat things back.
1-3%. Sure, it's not much, but it's something!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:12 PM (GBKbO)
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When it comes to federal elections - their legitimacy *or* their usefulness - my pill is so black that they need to define a new color for it.
State may be a different story depending on where you live, ditto local.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:13 PM (d04cU)
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Panama. Van Halen
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (FCbAQ)
Eh. I was wrong.
Happens when you guess
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2024 02:05 PM (FCbAQ)
Eh. I was wrong.
Happens when you guess
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (FCbAQ)
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Looks like Youngkin just got one step closer to the VP pick. Does he have any deep state ties?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
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Carlyle, where he was President, is the money making side of the CIA and DoD. Carlyle is a government front.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
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Carlyle, where he was President, is the money making side of the CIA and DoD. Carlyle is a government front.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (4gvj9)
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223 "on the Apprentice now is alleging they heard Trump use a racial slur."
Didn't this already come out in 2020?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024
Yes. But this time the guy is saying he would never be able to prove it, you just have to trust him.
Didn't this already come out in 2020?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024
Yes. But this time the guy is saying he would never be able to prove it, you just have to trust him.
Posted by: Piper at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (pRpzT)
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But the Kennedys seemed so decent and moral and sane.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (RlXwv)
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229 Looks like Youngkin just got one step closer to the VP pick. Does he have any deep state ties?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
I like JD Vance
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Ectld)
I like JD Vance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (Akjoo)
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RFK is a nut, sure. His voice will drive me to drink.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (Z8Yh2)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix
Her left arm is weird. For arm looks to be the same diameter as her upper arm. Is she a mutant?
Her left arm is weird. For arm looks to be the same diameter as her upper arm. Is she a mutant?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (4XwPj)
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227 When it comes to federal elections - their legitimacy *or* their usefulness - my pill is so black that they need to define a new color for it.
State may be a different story depending on where you live, ditto local.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:13 PM (d04cU)
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There is a color for that!
Fuligin.
A cloak in fuligin will be “darker than black, admirably erasing all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is concerned, showing only a featureless dark.”
State may be a different story depending on where you live, ditto local.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:13 PM (d04cU)
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There is a color for that!
Fuligin.
A cloak in fuligin will be “darker than black, admirably erasing all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is concerned, showing only a featureless dark.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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But the Kennedys seemed so decent and moral and sane.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (RlXwv)
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Compared to Joe they are.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (RlXwv)
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Compared to Joe they are.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (14DrZ)
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But the Kennedys seemed so decent and moral and sane.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (RlXwv)
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That's right!
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (RlXwv)
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That's right!
Posted by: Charlie Manson at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (4gvj9)
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Her left arm is weird. For arm looks to be the same diameter as her upper arm. Is she a mutant?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (4XwPj)
Lucky bitch
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (4XwPj)
Lucky bitch
Posted by: Michelle Fields at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (RlXwv)
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Moose County is the bellwether for the Michigan vote. While the XYZ company has a lot of influence, it really comes down to whether the Moose County Something chooses a side.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (ogTiX)
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A vagina parade. It was all part of the fake Women Women Women operation which was intended to crush any dissent to Her Smelly Thighness.
Posted by: ...
This is a very astute comment. Again, it recognizes that gender/sex before any other defining qualification is paramount to many.
If belonging to a group that defines their worth as gay, lesbian, trans, straight, etc then nothing else matters or should even be considered in some people's eyes.
Posted by: ...
This is a very astute comment. Again, it recognizes that gender/sex before any other defining qualification is paramount to many.
If belonging to a group that defines their worth as gay, lesbian, trans, straight, etc then nothing else matters or should even be considered in some people's eyes.
Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (F3Dlr)
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There is a color for that!
Fuligin.
A cloak in fuligin will be “darker than black, admirably erasing all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is concerned, showing only a featureless dark.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Man. I could use clothes that color.
Fuligin.
A cloak in fuligin will be “darker than black, admirably erasing all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is concerned, showing only a featureless dark.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Man. I could use clothes that color.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (d04cU)
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When it comes to federal elections - their legitimacy *or* their usefulness - my pill is so black that they need to define a new color for it.
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they did, Vantablack!
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they did, Vantablack!
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (DBZuM)
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"Yes. But this time the guy is saying he would never be able to prove it, you just have to trust him."
Anonymous sources say...
"I like JD Vance"
Trump doesn't need Ohio. I don't think Vance stands any chance of getting the VP pick.
Anonymous sources say...
"I like JD Vance"
Trump doesn't need Ohio. I don't think Vance stands any chance of getting the VP pick.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Ectld)
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I like JD Vance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (Akjoo)
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I do too, but Youngkin might be a help in winning Virginia.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:14 PM (Akjoo)
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I do too, but Youngkin might be a help in winning Virginia.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:17 PM (4gvj9)
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As to the Virginia poll, I bet a lot of folks didn't answer their phones for it. I think I got a text about it - but I don't respond to polls or answer my phone for anyone not in my contacts. And I think there's a lot of folks down here who don't respond to those calls.
Posted by: GWB at May 30, 2024 02:17 PM (AWrpC)
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242 Fuligin.
A cloak in fuligin will be “darker than black, admirably erasing all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is concerned, showing only a featureless dark.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Man. I could use clothes that color.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (d04cU)
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Learn to be comfortable with torture.
A cloak in fuligin will be “darker than black, admirably erasing all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is concerned, showing only a featureless dark.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Man. I could use clothes that color.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (d04cU)
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Learn to be comfortable with torture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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"Carlyle, where he was President, is the money making side of the CIA and DoD. Carlyle is a government front."
I'd say that's a big 10-4.
I'd say that's a big 10-4.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Ectld)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (s3qiR)
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Learn to be comfortable with torture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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As the perpetrator, or as the victim?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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As the perpetrator, or as the victim?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (s3qiR)
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244 Trump doesn't need Ohio. I don't think Vance stands any chance of getting the VP pick.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Ectld)
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I did an analysis a few years ago.
VP picks don't move votes in their home states.
It's a myth.
VP picks are about appeasing insider groups and nothing else.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Ectld)
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I did an analysis a few years ago.
VP picks don't move votes in their home states.
It's a myth.
VP picks are about appeasing insider groups and nothing else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (d04cU)
I assume they must carefully calibrate how far they can push Americans. They are always pushing, but they may decide to push less volatile things that still promote their agenda. They lay low for a bit and revisit the opportunity later after they've softened their "marks" a bit more.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:11 PM (d04cU)
I assume they must carefully calibrate how far they can push Americans. They are always pushing, but they may decide to push less volatile things that still promote their agenda. They lay low for a bit and revisit the opportunity later after they've softened their "marks" a bit more.
Posted by: Emmie at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (Sf2cq)
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@Joe Mannix, that's an uncontested easy layup of a "yes."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (tT6L1)
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VP needs to be ready to unleash hell when they off the boss. That is not Youngkin. They would off Trump to get that squish in charge.
Kamala for VP, its working for Joe.
Kamala for VP, its working for Joe.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (Z8Yh2)
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251 Learn to be comfortable with torture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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As the perpetrator, or as the victim?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (d04cU)
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Perpetrator. There's a guild and everything.
On the plus side, you may become Autarch of the whole planet one day. On the other: living in a disused rocket ship.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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As the perpetrator, or as the victim?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:18 PM (d04cU)
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Perpetrator. There's a guild and everything.
On the plus side, you may become Autarch of the whole planet one day. On the other: living in a disused rocket ship.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)
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252 TJM did Wolfe invent fuligin?
I guess he did
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (s3qiR)
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He made up a lot of terms, and I think that's one of them.
I guess he did
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (s3qiR)
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He made up a lot of terms, and I think that's one of them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)
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RFK Jr. ain't getting elected to shit. His whole schtick is to play off of his family name shaking down law firms, corporations and other dummies into giving him money and resources, which they do to get close to "power", his last name and to head off mass torts designed to shake them down ever further.
He's just a better bred Mike Cohen.
He's just a better bred Mike Cohen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (od9zZ)
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Uh-oh, Somebody didn't like Biden inflation, oops, I mean the $18 Big Mac Meal.
NYP
"1 injured in reported machete attack at Times Square McDonald’s"
NYP
"1 injured in reported machete attack at Times Square McDonald’s"
Posted by: WIsRich at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (G0vdT)
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VP picks are about appeasing insider groups and nothing else.
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I trust a pick that wont upset Trumps ego more than that then.
Burghum all the way!
Or was it Burgum?
Bergim?
Bo.... something, anyway that governor of that state I cant remember
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I trust a pick that wont upset Trumps ego more than that then.
Burghum all the way!
Or was it Burgum?
Bergim?
Bo.... something, anyway that governor of that state I cant remember
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (DBZuM)
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I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM
Not hate, but please spend five minutes reading the Wiki page on RFK Jr and ask yourself how that man represents anything other then the same anti-prosperity policies which Obama and Biden have pushed.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (RKVpM)
I can see how Zek feels that way about RFK... the media and likely his campaign are going to pains to frame him as centrist.
This is reimaging his past...
Evidence is his abortion slip up where he was strongly up until birth.
He's also not just a love America environmentalist, he said climate change skeptics should go to jail.
I see that I tapped into a deep vein of RFK hate here. I'm not saying I'm going to vote for him, but I respect him.
Anyways back to work.
Posted by: Zek at May 30, 2024 02:01 PM
Not hate, but please spend five minutes reading the Wiki page on RFK Jr and ask yourself how that man represents anything other then the same anti-prosperity policies which Obama and Biden have pushed.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 30, 2024 02:06 PM (RKVpM)
I can see how Zek feels that way about RFK... the media and likely his campaign are going to pains to frame him as centrist.
This is reimaging his past...
Evidence is his abortion slip up where he was strongly up until birth.
He's also not just a love America environmentalist, he said climate change skeptics should go to jail.
Posted by: Inogame at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (53oGX)
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DeSantis dropped out so quietly and turned around so quickly to endorse, I think the deal is done.
Sensible Unity Move by Trump and possibly some you know what insurance and the obvious next in line becomes the no-work shoo-in for 2028.
Sensible Unity Move by Trump and possibly some you know what insurance and the obvious next in line becomes the no-work shoo-in for 2028.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (RlXwv)
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"They would off Trump to get that squish in charge."
Which is why I asked about his deep state ties. I have no doubt Trump is being pressured hard for a deep state neocon. I think that's what all the push and pull about Nikki Haley is about.
Which is why I asked about his deep state ties. I have no doubt Trump is being pressured hard for a deep state neocon. I think that's what all the push and pull about Nikki Haley is about.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (Ectld)
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I wonder if Trump will pick a Democrat, or a former Democrat (Gabbard? Sinema?). Just to roil the waters further. If it's Sinema, I'm hoping she wears thigh-high boots and a mini-skirt to the election night win.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (4gvj9)
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It was 15,000 ballots, and the explanation is that they were 'absentee' ballots which the machine didn't initially count.
That's the link I provided earlier at #171. Nowhere does it say that every vote was for Spanberger.
We need to be careful about the claims we make. It's too easy to become discouraged.
That's the link I provided earlier at #171. Nowhere does it say that every vote was for Spanberger.
We need to be careful about the claims we make. It's too easy to become discouraged.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (xCA6C)
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Why isn't there common sense machete control?
THERE OUTTA BE A LAW!!
THERE OUTTA BE A LAW!!
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (ufFY8)
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263 DeSantis dropped out so quietly and turned around so quickly to endorse, I think the deal is done.
Sensible Unity Move by Trump and possibly some you know what insurance and the obvious next in line becomes the no-work shoo-in for 2028.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (RlXwv)
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I'm pretty sure the Bulwark came out with more than one article about how while Trump is a dangerous authoritarian who will never yield power, DeSantis is even worse.
Well, it was either the Bulwark or Vox. Hard to tell the difference.
Sensible Unity Move by Trump and possibly some you know what insurance and the obvious next in line becomes the no-work shoo-in for 2028.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (RlXwv)
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I'm pretty sure the Bulwark came out with more than one article about how while Trump is a dangerous authoritarian who will never yield power, DeSantis is even worse.
Well, it was either the Bulwark or Vox. Hard to tell the difference.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
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I assume they must carefully calibrate how far they can push Americans. They are always pushing, but they may decide to push less volatile things that still promote their agenda. They lay low for a bit and revisit the opportunity later after they've softened their "marks" a bit more.
Posted by: Emmie at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (Sf2cq)
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That's a part of it, but I think a small part. They've removed accountability at this point, so that is less of a concern.
Transactionally, though, a Trump win would have some upsides for the Party. They could claim everything is honest and above-board, for one thing, and use it as a cudgel for *decades* (if we have that long) whenever questions about election integrity come up. More important, it would solve their Joe Biden and Kamala Harris problems and them groom the next candidate for four years. It will also put Trump in place as the bag holder for the economic trouble that's coming down the pike (which they could help accelerate, but cannot avoid), creating desirable conditions for '28. And, of course, Trump is not a real risk for the Party because they can contain him like last time.
There are potentially significant Party upsides.
Posted by: Emmie at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (Sf2cq)
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That's a part of it, but I think a small part. They've removed accountability at this point, so that is less of a concern.
Transactionally, though, a Trump win would have some upsides for the Party. They could claim everything is honest and above-board, for one thing, and use it as a cudgel for *decades* (if we have that long) whenever questions about election integrity come up. More important, it would solve their Joe Biden and Kamala Harris problems and them groom the next candidate for four years. It will also put Trump in place as the bag holder for the economic trouble that's coming down the pike (which they could help accelerate, but cannot avoid), creating desirable conditions for '28. And, of course, Trump is not a real risk for the Party because they can contain him like last time.
There are potentially significant Party upsides.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (d04cU)
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State may be a different story depending on where you live, ditto local.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
We're gonna take a little of this midnight black, A bit of pitch black, and just a touch of blacker than the deepest pits of hell black. Now mix those really well with the old pallet knife and we can go up here to the canvas to put in the Mannix pill. There we go. Just a happy little pill. I like that. Shoot, let's do another one. Right over here.
Zombie Bob Ross
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
We're gonna take a little of this midnight black, A bit of pitch black, and just a touch of blacker than the deepest pits of hell black. Now mix those really well with the old pallet knife and we can go up here to the canvas to put in the Mannix pill. There we go. Just a happy little pill. I like that. Shoot, let's do another one. Right over here.
Zombie Bob Ross
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (4XwPj)
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Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Another sharp comment that is appreciated.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Another sharp comment that is appreciated.
Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (F3Dlr)
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"1 injured in reported machete attack at Times Square McDonald’s"
Loosely related, Critical Drinker just did a review on Falling Down.
Loosely related, Critical Drinker just did a review on Falling Down.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (Ectld)
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>>>The 2020 cheat was so outrageous, public, obvious and coordinated that its success demonstrated that the line *could* be crossed without significant consequence for the Party. The root premise was incorrect, and as a result so is the entire "margin of fraud" concept.
Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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The cheat was public in that it was available to be seen. However, it was not covered by the MSM therefore it was not validated at the time. Since then, so much apparent corruption has occurred and so much of the election information has been so widely disseminated that the cheat that was obvious to us then is now in the public consciousness and is amplified by the public family corruption.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Trump might win in November, but if he does, it's because the Party opted to permit it - not that the Party couldn't overcome it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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The cheat was public in that it was available to be seen. However, it was not covered by the MSM therefore it was not validated at the time. Since then, so much apparent corruption has occurred and so much of the election information has been so widely disseminated that the cheat that was obvious to us then is now in the public consciousness and is amplified by the public family corruption.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
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Perpetrator. There's a guild and everything.
On the plus side, you may become Autarch of the whole planet one day. On the other: living in a disused rocket ship.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)
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So I can punish my enemies and get free housing no matter what, with potentially significant upside from there?
Sign me up...
On the plus side, you may become Autarch of the whole planet one day. On the other: living in a disused rocket ship.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)
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So I can punish my enemies and get free housing no matter what, with potentially significant upside from there?
Sign me up...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (d04cU)
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I like J.D. Vance and Trump doesn't need somebody to bring a state.
He needs someone articulate who can relate to the base. Remember Vance wrote Hillbilly Elegy.
He needs someone articulate who can relate to the base. Remember Vance wrote Hillbilly Elegy.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (t/2Uw)
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h-oh, Somebody didn't like Biden inflation, oops, I mean the $18 Big Mac Meal.
NYP
"1 injured in reported machete attack at Times Square McDonald’s"
Posted by: WIsRich at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (G0vdT)
Lots of urban savages live off of what they can obtain at places like Mickey D's, they would starve otherwise. They are driven over the edge not only by the price but by the mystery of how the food appears as if by majick, as their feral brains cannot connect how this is possible.
NYP
"1 injured in reported machete attack at Times Square McDonald’s"
Posted by: WIsRich at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (G0vdT)
Lots of urban savages live off of what they can obtain at places like Mickey D's, they would starve otherwise. They are driven over the edge not only by the price but by the mystery of how the food appears as if by majick, as their feral brains cannot connect how this is possible.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (od9zZ)
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The cheat was public in that it was available to be seen. However, it was not covered by the MSM therefore it was not validated at the time. Since then, so much apparent corruption has occurred and so much of the election information has been so widely disseminated that the cheat that was obvious to us then is now in the public consciousness and is amplified by the public family corruption.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Concur.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Concur.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (xCA6C)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)
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In before the willowed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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Think about it - what is the best way for Trump to bring possible Trump Holdouts in every single possible state back to the plantation? It's more than decent strategery.
You can say VP pick doesn't matter but this is a case where conservatives who despise Trump too much to vote for him but love DeSantis might be motivated to get off their ass and do it. More than any other possible pick.
You can say VP pick doesn't matter but this is a case where conservatives who despise Trump too much to vote for him but love DeSantis might be motivated to get off their ass and do it. More than any other possible pick.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:25 PM (RlXwv)
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The cheat was public in that it was available to be seen. However, it was not covered by the MSM therefore it was not validated at the time. Since then, so much apparent corruption has occurred and so much of the election information has been so widely disseminated that the cheat that was obvious to us then is now in the public consciousness and is amplified by the public family corruption.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
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They still control most organs of information. I see no indication that they can't be just as blase and suppressive this time around.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
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They still control most organs of information. I see no indication that they can't be just as blase and suppressive this time around.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:25 PM (d04cU)
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273 The cheat was public in that it was available to be seen. However, it was not covered by the MSM therefore it was not validated at the time. Since then, so much apparent corruption has occurred and so much of the election information has been so widely disseminated that the cheat that was obvious to us then is now in the public consciousness and is amplified by the public family corruption.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
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This was how I thought 2022 would play out. I was really buoyed by Musk buying Twitter which happened just a few months before the midterms.
Still, 2022 happened where Katie Hobbs, Secretary of State of AZ, was able to effectively turn off signature verification on mail in ballots, a move that was so outrageous that 10 months after the election a federal court said that it was an illegal move.
Guess who's governor of AZ now.
They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
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This was how I thought 2022 would play out. I was really buoyed by Musk buying Twitter which happened just a few months before the midterms.
Still, 2022 happened where Katie Hobbs, Secretary of State of AZ, was able to effectively turn off signature verification on mail in ballots, a move that was so outrageous that 10 months after the election a federal court said that it was an illegal move.
Guess who's governor of AZ now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)
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no idea if Vance gets Trump any more votes, but he seems like someone who can smell throne-sniffing swamp types a mile away. And Trump needs that, he's too susceptible to flattery.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 30, 2024 02:26 PM (V6W16)
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275 I like J.D. Vance and Trump doesn't need somebody to bring a state.
He needs someone articulate who can relate to the base. Remember Vance wrote Hillbilly Elegy.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (t/2Uw)
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Vance's Uncle Teaberry seemed a little too close to Uncle Teardrop from Winter's Bone. It made the book feel a little fake to me.
He needs someone articulate who can relate to the base. Remember Vance wrote Hillbilly Elegy.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (t/2Uw)
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Vance's Uncle Teaberry seemed a little too close to Uncle Teardrop from Winter's Bone. It made the book feel a little fake to me.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 02:26 PM (ogTiX)
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Gonna get willowed, but....
The only people at the Biden black people really like me rally in Philly were the people standing behind him. The gym was empty except for a press table otherwise.
https://tinyurl.com/4wext4fr
The only people at the Biden black people really like me rally in Philly were the people standing behind him. The gym was empty except for a press table otherwise.
https://tinyurl.com/4wext4fr
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 02:26 PM (P9xGM)
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How did we do against The Cheat in 2022? I seem to remember there was a lot of bullshit in places it mattered.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:26 PM (RlXwv)
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Hi Sponge.👋
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (t/2Uw)
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They will not be able to steal the election in such an obvious fashion as they did in 2020.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
I disagree with this, but for reasons which may not be readily apparent.
They will absolutely be able to steal the election in just as obvious a fashion as they did in 2020. They have been shown that SCOTUS will not (absolutely will not) mediate any debates between the Several States.
Barring that, they need only fear We the People, and We the People have proven we need not be feared. Even our 'insurrection' was unarmed.
They can steal it because there are no consequences for doing so.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM (0ZYe2)
I disagree with this, but for reasons which may not be readily apparent.
They will absolutely be able to steal the election in just as obvious a fashion as they did in 2020. They have been shown that SCOTUS will not (absolutely will not) mediate any debates between the Several States.
Barring that, they need only fear We the People, and We the People have proven we need not be feared. Even our 'insurrection' was unarmed.
They can steal it because there are no consequences for doing so.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (/nCD+)
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DeSantis dropped out so quietly and turned around so quickly to endorse, I think the deal is done.
Sensible Unity Move by Trump and possibly some you know what insurance and the obvious next in line becomes the no-work shoo-in for 2028.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (RlXwv)
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Note a good idea to choose a candidate from the same state if election is going to be close due to electoral votes.
Sensible Unity Move by Trump and possibly some you know what insurance and the obvious next in line becomes the no-work shoo-in for 2028.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:21 PM (RlXwv)
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Note a good idea to choose a candidate from the same state if election is going to be close due to electoral votes.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (NpAcC)
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Vance's Uncle Teaberry seemed a little too close to Uncle Teardrop from Winter's Bone. It made the book feel a little fake to me.
Vance is a threat to the Dems, because he was the people the Dems claim to represent. I'm sure they looked to see if there was anything they could use to discredit him.
Vance is a threat to the Dems, because he was the people the Dems claim to represent. I'm sure they looked to see if there was anything they could use to discredit him.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (xCA6C)
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The only people at the Biden black people really like me rally in Philly were the people standing behind him. The gym was empty except for a press table otherwise.
people here are really sick to death of Kamala and Joe constantly coming to town
they are a huge PITA and not at all well-liked
then there's the constant NOTAMs for Bidens to go back and forth to the shore in jets! ugh
people here are really sick to death of Kamala and Joe constantly coming to town
they are a huge PITA and not at all well-liked
then there's the constant NOTAMs for Bidens to go back and forth to the shore in jets! ugh
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (s3qiR)
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289 Note a good idea to choose a candidate from the same state if election is going to be close due to electoral votes.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (NpAcC)
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"I live in NJ now," is effectively all Trump has to do to avoid that, by the way.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (NpAcC)
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"I live in NJ now," is effectively all Trump has to do to avoid that, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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So Roberts finally found his nuts:
@KaelanDC 19m
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts declines Sen. Durbin and Whitehouse invitation for a meeting regarding their concerns and calls for Justice Samuel Alito to recuse over flags raised at his homes.
@KaelanDC 19m
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts declines Sen. Durbin and Whitehouse invitation for a meeting regarding their concerns and calls for Justice Samuel Alito to recuse over flags raised at his homes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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Just accept the fact that the VP pick is going to be terrible.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (P9xGM)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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Her left arm is weird. For arm looks to be the same diameter as her upper arm. Is she a mutant?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (4XwPj)
Ohhh, I hope so!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:15 PM (4XwPj)
Ohhh, I hope so!
Posted by: Igor - pronounced eyegore at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (iODuv)
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294 Just accept the fact that the VP pick is going to be terrible.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (P9xGM)
As long as it's not Nikki Haley I'm okay
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (P9xGM)
As long as it's not Nikki Haley I'm okay
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (Akjoo)
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Note a good idea to choose a candidate from the same state if election is going to be close due to electoral votes.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (NpAcC)
Trump can afford to move. And he wouldn't do it in advance of the pick, for obvious reasons.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:27 PM (NpAcC)
Trump can afford to move. And he wouldn't do it in advance of the pick, for obvious reasons.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (RlXwv)
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How did we do against The Cheat in 2022? I seem to remember there was a lot of bullshit in places it mattered.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:26 PM (RlXwv)
Hello!!!!
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:26 PM (RlXwv)
Hello!!!!
Posted by: Mike Pence, Traitor at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (od9zZ)
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A quick internet search says RFK is not yet on the Virginia ballot.
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Kennedy has officially gained ballot access in seven states—Utah, Michigan, California, Delaware, Oklahoma, Hawaii and Texas—according to his campaign, which said it has collected enough signatures to be placed on the ballot in nine others—New Hampshire, Nevada, North Carolina, Idaho, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio, New Jersey and New York.
~~ Forbes
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Kennedy has officially gained ballot access in seven states—Utah, Michigan, California, Delaware, Oklahoma, Hawaii and Texas—according to his campaign, which said it has collected enough signatures to be placed on the ballot in nine others—New Hampshire, Nevada, North Carolina, Idaho, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio, New Jersey and New York.
~~ Forbes
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (4gvj9)
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293 So Roberts finally found his nuts:
@KaelanDC 19m
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts declines Sen. Durbin and Whitehouse invitation for a meeting regarding their concerns and calls for Justice Samuel Alito to recuse over flags raised at his homes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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Nah. SCOTUS is its own power center which jealously guards its power while trying to take more power from the legislative branch, which has been effectively ceding its power to both the judicial and executive branches for decades.
The only proper response from anyone in government to a "request" from Congress is the hand-jerking motion.
That is, until Congress decides to use its power of the purse, the only real power it has.
@KaelanDC 19m
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts declines Sen. Durbin and Whitehouse invitation for a meeting regarding their concerns and calls for Justice Samuel Alito to recuse over flags raised at his homes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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Nah. SCOTUS is its own power center which jealously guards its power while trying to take more power from the legislative branch, which has been effectively ceding its power to both the judicial and executive branches for decades.
The only proper response from anyone in government to a "request" from Congress is the hand-jerking motion.
That is, until Congress decides to use its power of the purse, the only real power it has.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Just accept the fact that the VP pick is going to be terrible.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So it's Mike Pence again.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So it's Mike Pence again.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (4XwPj)
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So Roberts finally found his nuts:
@KaelanDC 19m
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts declines Sen. Durbin and Whitehouse invitation for a meeting regarding their concerns and calls for Justice Samuel Alito to recuse over flags raised at his homes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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Meh. The Court is *his* empire, not theirs, and he isn't going to take orders from them on how to run the affairs of his domain.
No Chief Justice would. If they use whatever cudgel they have to threaten him into *voting* the right way on some issue, they can do so - but he won't let them publicly humiliate him.
@KaelanDC 19m
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts declines Sen. Durbin and Whitehouse invitation for a meeting regarding their concerns and calls for Justice Samuel Alito to recuse over flags raised at his homes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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Meh. The Court is *his* empire, not theirs, and he isn't going to take orders from them on how to run the affairs of his domain.
No Chief Justice would. If they use whatever cudgel they have to threaten him into *voting* the right way on some issue, they can do so - but he won't let them publicly humiliate him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (d04cU)
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Keep popping in to see of any news yet
Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (fwDg9)
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love DeSantis might be motivated to get off their ass and do it. More than any other possible pick.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:25 PM (RlXwv)
I have no idea if it is sound political strategy, but I would be thrilled with DeSantis as VP. I like both men.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:25 PM (RlXwv)
I have no idea if it is sound political strategy, but I would be thrilled with DeSantis as VP. I like both men.
Posted by: Emmie at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (Sf2cq)
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RFK Jr. ain't getting elected to shit. His whole schtick is to play off of his family name shaking down law firms, corporations and other dummies into giving him money and resources, which they do to get close to "power", his last name and to head off mass torts designed to shake them down ever further.
He's just a better bred Mike Cohen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (od9zZ)
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I didn't think I'd ever hear anyone speak favorably about the Kennedys' breeding. They're basically trailer trash with name-recognition and a lot of ill-gotten money.
He's just a better bred Mike Cohen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2024 02:20 PM (od9zZ)
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I didn't think I'd ever hear anyone speak favorably about the Kennedys' breeding. They're basically trailer trash with name-recognition and a lot of ill-gotten money.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo)
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"I live in NJ now," is effectively all Trump has to do to avoid that, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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The MSM would destroy him for that. It's just not something Trump needs right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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The MSM would destroy him for that. It's just not something Trump needs right now.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (NpAcC)
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Biden can still be replaced according to DNC Rules. Let’s say he’s “incapacitated” or otherwise physically unable to run. He can then be replaced. Their problem is not the rules, it’s Kamala.
Posted by: Vengeance at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (o33NW)
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"1 injured in reported machete attack at Times Square McDonald’s"
Loosely related, Critical Drinker just did a review on Falling Down.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM
Whammy Burger, not McDonalds
Loosely related, Critical Drinker just did a review on Falling Down.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 02:24 PM
Whammy Burger, not McDonalds
Posted by: D Fens at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (yOPBE)
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307 "I live in NJ now," is effectively all Trump has to do to avoid that, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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The MSM would destroy him for that. It's just not something Trump needs right now.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (NpAcC)
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He's in court RIGHT NOW for fake charges that the media has played up as the end of Democracy.
And Trump's numbers haven't suffered at all.
The media's shooting blanks at this point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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The MSM would destroy him for that. It's just not something Trump needs right now.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (NpAcC)
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He's in court RIGHT NOW for fake charges that the media has played up as the end of Democracy.
And Trump's numbers haven't suffered at all.
The media's shooting blanks at this point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
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I didn't think I'd ever hear anyone speak favorably about the Kennedys' breeding. They're basically trailer trash with name-recognition and a lot of ill-gotten money.
huh that sounds so family-yer
huh that sounds so family-yer
Posted by: Biden Trash at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (s3qiR)
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In a surprise move, Trump has selected himself to be his own vice president, as, in the event he is violently removed from office, he will return to life through sheer otherworldly hatred as a reanimated power litch and resume the duties of office.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (VoAdT)
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Meanwhile, at Gateway Pundit: 'In a statement from the Dutch airline KLM, the airline said “A fatal incident took place at Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine. Sadly, this person has died”'
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
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I would actually support Trump picking himself to be VP
and also picking himself to head the FBI, CIA, Fed Reserve, Disney, etc
and also picking himself to head the FBI, CIA, Fed Reserve, Disney, etc
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (DBZuM)
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313 Meanwhile, at Gateway Pundit: 'In a statement from the Dutch airline KLM, the airline said “A fatal incident took place at Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine. Sadly, this person has died”'
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
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Cover story for a guy who found out about the gremlin on the wing of the plane.
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
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Cover story for a guy who found out about the gremlin on the wing of the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (VoAdT
Don't tease me.
Don't tease me.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:33 PM (4XwPj)
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Just accept the fact that the VP pick is going to be terrible.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So it's Mike Pence again.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (4XwPj)
Montec lives!!!!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So it's Mike Pence again.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (4XwPj)
Montec lives!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:33 PM (DBZuM)
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No Chief Justice would. If they use whatever cudgel they have to threaten him into *voting* the right way on some issue, they can do so - but he won't let them publicly humiliate him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (d04cU)
Oh yeah?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:30 PM (d04cU)
Oh yeah?
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 30, 2024 02:33 PM (/nCD+)
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Was Joe Kennedy the irish gangster in Peaky Blinders?
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (Z8Yh2)
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308 Biden can still be replaced according to DNC Rules. Let’s say he’s “incapacitated” or otherwise physically unable to run. He can then be replaced. Their problem is not the rules, it’s Kamala.
Posted by: Vengeance
In light of what just happened in Ohio, Democrats have NO RULES. They do whatever tf they want and dare anyone to challenge them.
Posted by: Vengeance
In light of what just happened in Ohio, Democrats have NO RULES. They do whatever tf they want and dare anyone to challenge them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (Qg+KP)
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Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:33 PM (Zz0t1
That's not nice. I may be in a gloomy mood today but I'm not a troll.
That's not nice. I may be in a gloomy mood today but I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (4XwPj)
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Meanwhile, at Gateway Pundit: 'In a statement from the Dutch airline KLM, the airline said “A fatal incident took place at Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine. Sadly, this person has died”'
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
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This is so unlikely that if it happened, someone - probably the person who got converted into mist by the engine - wildly violated safety protocols.
So the odd wording, if I had to guess, is because either:
1. It was lost in translation from Dutch
2. The airline doesn't want to blame the victim or prematurely assign blame to someone else who egregiously violated safety procedures, so crafted a very weird statement to avoid doing so.
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
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This is so unlikely that if it happened, someone - probably the person who got converted into mist by the engine - wildly violated safety protocols.
So the odd wording, if I had to guess, is because either:
1. It was lost in translation from Dutch
2. The airline doesn't want to blame the victim or prematurely assign blame to someone else who egregiously violated safety procedures, so crafted a very weird statement to avoid doing so.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (d04cU)
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The 2020 race never showed Trump leading. Biden up by 5 pts nationwide at this point. It was the only thing that allowed them to make the cheat seen believable. After all the stunts they've pulled completely ignoring the rule of law, their antics have become too noticeable.
They have also lost the constituency that actually did the work because of their open borders catering to illegals.
They have also lost the constituency that actually did the work because of their open borders catering to illegals.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (t/2Uw)
325
I would actually support Trump picking himself to be VP
and also picking himself to head the FBI, CIA, Fed Reserve, Disney, etc
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (DBZuM)
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And commissioner of MLB, so he can get rid of all of Rob Manfred's idiotic rule changes.
and also picking himself to head the FBI, CIA, Fed Reserve, Disney, etc
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 02:32 PM (DBZuM)
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And commissioner of MLB, so he can get rid of all of Rob Manfred's idiotic rule changes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (YqDXo)
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Transactionally, though, a Trump win would have some upsides for the Party. They could claim everything is honest and above-board, for one thing, and use it as a cudgel for *decades* (if we have that long) whenever questions about election integrity come up. More important, it would solve their Joe Biden and Kamala Harris problems and them groom the next candidate for four years. It will also put Trump in place as the bag holder for the economic trouble that's coming down the pike (which they could help accelerate, but cannot avoid), creating desirable conditions for '28. And, of course, Trump is not a real risk for the Party because they can contain him like last time.
There are potentially significant Party upsides.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (d04cU)
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That being said, they can never, ever bring themselves to hand the right a win on anything, much less the presidency, so it ain't happening.
There are potentially significant Party upsides.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (d04cU)
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That being said, they can never, ever bring themselves to hand the right a win on anything, much less the presidency, so it ain't happening.
Posted by: smeltwwrapper at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (mxEar)
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Early polls generally favor the incumbent
Carter was ahead of Reagan for most of the election year, then cratered towards the end as it started to finally dawn on people what Carters second term would have looked like
If Biden is doing this poorly now, its only going to get worse
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (DBZuM)
I was there. Nobody believed these polls and knew that Carter was going to get his ass kicked. These were 100 percent push polls. Everyone was counting the days until we could kick his ass out.
Carter was ahead of Reagan for most of the election year, then cratered towards the end as it started to finally dawn on people what Carters second term would have looked like
If Biden is doing this poorly now, its only going to get worse
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 30, 2024 01:31 PM (DBZuM)
I was there. Nobody believed these polls and knew that Carter was going to get his ass kicked. These were 100 percent push polls. Everyone was counting the days until we could kick his ass out.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (eoQWY)
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I just love that "he ended up in there."
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:36 PM (MvF+J)
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That's not nice. I may be in a gloomy mood today but I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (4XwPj)
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I hope your day improves!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (4XwPj)
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I hope your day improves!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:36 PM (4gvj9)
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I was there. Nobody believed these polls and knew that Carter was going to get his ass kicked. These were 100 percent push polls. Everyone was counting the days until we could kick his ass out.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (eoQWY)
I'm ashamed to say I voted for him. It was the last Dem I ever voted for
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (eoQWY)
I'm ashamed to say I voted for him. It was the last Dem I ever voted for
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 02:36 PM (Akjoo)
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328 I just love that "he ended up in there."
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:36 PM (MvF+J)
"I was just looking for the shitter and then PBTHBKTRPBTTH!!!!!"
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:36 PM (MvF+J)
"I was just looking for the shitter and then PBTHBKTRPBTTH!!!!!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (VoAdT)
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I'm ashamed to say I voted for him. It was the last Dem I ever voted for
Posted by: It's me donna at May
I voted for bill Clinton his first go round.
Posted by: It's me donna at May
I voted for bill Clinton his first go round.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Qg+KP)
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That's not nice. I may be in a gloomy mood today but I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (4XwPj)
Not really suggesting you're a troll, but pushing the idea that Trump didn't learn a damn thing from his time in DC and the actions taken during the last election is very "Trump is a stupid poopiehead and can't win."
Just reminded me of him. That's all.
That's not nice. I may be in a gloomy mood today but I'm not a troll.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 30, 2024 02:34 PM (4XwPj)
Not really suggesting you're a troll, but pushing the idea that Trump didn't learn a damn thing from his time in DC and the actions taken during the last election is very "Trump is a stupid poopiehead and can't win."
Just reminded me of him. That's all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)
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Vote Harder!!
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Aoykm)
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I didn't think I'd ever hear anyone speak favorably about the Kennedys' breeding. They're basically trailer trash with name-recognition and a lot of ill-gotten money.
huh that sounds so family-yer
Posted by: Biden Trash at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (s3qiR)
They tried to sell that Camelot nonsense for decades in the 60s and 70s.
huh that sounds so family-yer
Posted by: Biden Trash at May 30, 2024 02:31 PM (s3qiR)
They tried to sell that Camelot nonsense for decades in the 60s and 70s.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (4gvj9)
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Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine
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Guess the Schiphol really hit the fan.
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Guess the Schiphol really hit the fan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (2UnvF)
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I'm ashamed to say I voted for him. It was the last Dem I ever voted for
Posted by: It's me donna at May
I voted for bill Clinton his first go round.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Qg+KP)
Hell, I WORKED for Mark Warner during his gubernatorial run.
Posted by: It's me donna at May
I voted for bill Clinton his first go round.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Qg+KP)
Hell, I WORKED for Mark Warner during his gubernatorial run.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (/nCD+)
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336 No one supports Kristen Sinema for Veep?
More likely than Trump changing state residency.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024
She is a democrat who occasionally gets lucky with a good outfit, but more often than not, it’s a miss.
More likely than Trump changing state residency.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024
She is a democrat who occasionally gets lucky with a good outfit, but more often than not, it’s a miss.
Posted by: Piper at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (pRpzT)
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337 Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine
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Guess the Schiphol really hit the fan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Remains scattered.
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Guess the Schiphol really hit the fan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Remains scattered.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (Qg+KP)
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Transactionally, though, a Trump win would have some upsides for the Party. They could claim everything is honest and above-board, for one thing, and use it as a cudgel for *decades* (if we have that long) whenever questions about election integrity come up. More important, it would solve their Joe Biden and Kamala Harris problems and them groom the next candidate for four years. It will also put Trump in place as the bag holder for the economic trouble that's coming down the pike (which they could help accelerate, but cannot avoid), creating desirable conditions for '28. And, of course, Trump is not a real risk for the Party because they can contain him like last time.
There are potentially significant Party upsides.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (d04cU)
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That being said, they can never, ever bring themselves to hand the right a win on anything, much less the presidency, so it ain't happening.
Posted by: smeltwwrapper at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (mxEar)
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The fly in the ointment: Trump will then probably get to nominate at least one more Supreme Court Justice.
There are potentially significant Party upsides.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:23 PM (d04cU)
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That being said, they can never, ever bring themselves to hand the right a win on anything, much less the presidency, so it ain't happening.
Posted by: smeltwwrapper at May 30, 2024 02:35 PM (mxEar)
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The fly in the ointment: Trump will then probably get to nominate at least one more Supreme Court Justice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (YqDXo)
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Trump will not pick a VP from the House or the Senate.
Even if they are just a warm body he needs them there.
Even if they are just a warm body he needs them there.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (0ZYe2)
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336 No one supports Kristen Sinema for Veep?
More likely than Trump changing state residency.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (4gvj9)
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The woman so unpopular in AZ that her own party dumped her and she dropped out of her 3rd party attempt at the seat she currently holds because she was polling at 9%?
That Kristen Sinema?
More likely than Trump changing state residency.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (4gvj9)
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The woman so unpopular in AZ that her own party dumped her and she dropped out of her 3rd party attempt at the seat she currently holds because she was polling at 9%?
That Kristen Sinema?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
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The fly in the ointment: Trump will then probably get to nominate at least one more Supreme Court Justice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (YqDXo)
Who the Party has to confirm....
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (YqDXo)
Who the Party has to confirm....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (VoAdT)
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I'd hate to see any fiery conservative with name brand and ambition end up in obscurity by being a vp for 4 years.
Better it be someone like Burgum that is in his element in being the spokesperson for Trump. He's a good CEO.
Better it be someone like Burgum that is in his element in being the spokesperson for Trump. He's a good CEO.
Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (F3Dlr)
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DooM and GlooM and agg-o-knie on all!
Posted by: Outside of Life at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (89Sog)
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I voted for Bill Jeff the first time. I even attended a campaign rally in Montana. Gotta say, the dude could work a room.
Fooker.
On the plus side the Hildebeest was not in attendance.
Fooker.
On the plus side the Hildebeest was not in attendance.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (xPJvm)
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what happened to the biden turning out the vote thing
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 02:40 PM (B1FKF)
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That Kristen Sinema?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
DC NEEDS more hooker boots and dumbshittery, you see.
That Kristen Sinema?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
DC NEEDS more hooker boots and dumbshittery, you see.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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I'm ashamed to say I voted for him. It was the last Dem I ever voted for
Posted by: It's me donna at May
I voted for bill Clinton his first go round.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Qg+KP)
Hell, I WORKED for Mark Warner during his gubernatorial run.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (/nCD+)
Ironically Bill Clinton while trying to dodge impeachment and disgrace was probably a better president for the country than Dole and the GoPe would have been.
Posted by: It's me donna at May
I voted for bill Clinton his first go round.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Qg+KP)
Hell, I WORKED for Mark Warner during his gubernatorial run.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (/nCD+)
Ironically Bill Clinton while trying to dodge impeachment and disgrace was probably a better president for the country than Dole and the GoPe would have been.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2024 02:40 PM (eoQWY)
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NOODlum.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 30, 2024 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)
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nood
Posted by: gp Abides at May 30, 2024 02:41 PM (MvF+J)
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The minimum commitment for an Air Force Academy (AFA) education is five years of active duty service, and the AFSCs that obligate cadets for the least amount of payback time represent the second most popular job selections in the aggregate. The act is known among cadets as “dive in five,” and it is borne of disillusionment and the realization that DEI entrenched military leadership, quota-based promotions, and falling standards are not what they signed up for.
Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 02:41 PM (RHGPo)
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new threat twicet in one minute
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 30, 2024 02:41 PM (B1FKF)
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The fly in the ointment: Trump will then probably get to nominate at least one more Supreme Court Justice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (YqDXo)
++++
They've spent Biden's term piloting the "ignore SCOTUS" strategy, and the results have been decent.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2024 02:38 PM (YqDXo)
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They've spent Biden's term piloting the "ignore SCOTUS" strategy, and the results have been decent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 02:41 PM (d04cU)
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That Kristen Sinema?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
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My, you are picky today!
Trouble with Chapter 2? Kill off a character, just out of spite, and see if that helps.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
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My, you are picky today!
Trouble with Chapter 2? Kill off a character, just out of spite, and see if that helps.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2024 02:41 PM (4gvj9)
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Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky's office has instructed officials and lawmakers to publicly criticize US President Joe Biden and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping for their reluctance to attend a conference on Ukraine to be held in Switzerland on June 15-16, the Financial Times reported, citing a document.
Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 02:42 PM (RHGPo)
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In 2020 all the public cared about was getting rid of Trump. Ow they know what they got was a disaster. No one, no one is enthusiastic about Biden or Kamala. There has to be foot soldiers to make a cheat of the required scale to defeat someone. My take is he has lost that constituency. Biden is polling badly with POC s, young people, Muslims etc. There is no longer anything for them to win in a Biden administration.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 30, 2024 02:42 PM (t/2Uw)
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Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine
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Guess the Schiphol really hit the fan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (2UnvF)
Wonder if it was some climate protestor. Seems to be too many tears for a criminal but not enough for a tragic accident.
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Guess the Schiphol really hit the fan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 30, 2024 02:37 PM (2UnvF)
Wonder if it was some climate protestor. Seems to be too many tears for a criminal but not enough for a tragic accident.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2024 02:42 PM (eoQWY)
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Why do I keep thinking of Fargo when I read about the plane engine fiasco?
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 30, 2024 02:43 PM (Aoykm)
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Ugh, off SOCTUS-humiliating sock
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 30, 2024 02:43 PM (/nCD+)
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They meant to say he got upended into it
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 02:45 PM (RlXwv)
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Vance's Uncle Teaberry seemed a little too close to Uncle Teardrop from Winter's Bone. It made the book feel a little fake to me.
Posted by: Oglebay
Were they both eaten by cannibals?
Vance's Uncle Teaberry seemed a little too close to Uncle Teardrop from Winter's Bone. It made the book feel a little fake to me.
Posted by: Oglebay
Were they both eaten by cannibals?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 02:46 PM (63Dwl)
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>>> @CommishSmith 2h
A 9-0 slapdown of New York's effort to intimidate people out of any association with the NRA. A very important win for the First Amendment!
We aren't a complete totalitarian state just yet. The left forgets that if the supremes don't strike this down, this could be applied to them too with their own pet causes, and they'd hate it. Imagine the government saying a bank shouldn't work with unions, or green peace, or planned parenthood.
A 9-0 slapdown of New York's effort to intimidate people out of any association with the NRA. A very important win for the First Amendment!
We aren't a complete totalitarian state just yet. The left forgets that if the supremes don't strike this down, this could be applied to them too with their own pet causes, and they'd hate it. Imagine the government saying a bank shouldn't work with unions, or green peace, or planned parenthood.
Posted by: LizLem at May 30, 2024 02:49 PM (QAK8m)
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No matter the name picked for vp they will be tarnished thru their association with Trump. Whether they serve 4 years or step into the presidency sooner.
If people believe Trump can't turn the ship around why expect or want a future star to go down with it?
I hope the vp pick is a staunch ally that will support Trump (my bias, I love Trump) and also, someone that can be instrumental in getting new blood elected as president in 2028.
If people believe Trump can't turn the ship around why expect or want a future star to go down with it?
I hope the vp pick is a staunch ally that will support Trump (my bias, I love Trump) and also, someone that can be instrumental in getting new blood elected as president in 2028.
Posted by: old chick at May 30, 2024 02:54 PM (F3Dlr)
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>>> 147 RFK Jr is for late term abortion and "trans" child chopping. That's gonna cost Biden votes, not Trump.Posted by: callsign claymore
Also, his numerous allegiances for the destruction of the coal and oil industry needs to be front and center when anyone seriously suggests he is a candidate, let alone a viable one.
I was surprised how reasonable RFK's VP sounded in her acceptance speech; I nodded along with her carefully crafted words several times. Digging into her actual beliefs made me realize we are on VERY different pages, as far as how to execute outcomes for that which we agree on.
RFK is the same. Sounds good until I dug into the particulars. Then he's a hard pass.
I wonder how much the Kennedy compound clans throwing RFK under the bus will hurt him with the boomers that actually attach value to the Kennedy brand. They are all throwing in their lot with senile old Joe.
Also, his numerous allegiances for the destruction of the coal and oil industry needs to be front and center when anyone seriously suggests he is a candidate, let alone a viable one.
I was surprised how reasonable RFK's VP sounded in her acceptance speech; I nodded along with her carefully crafted words several times. Digging into her actual beliefs made me realize we are on VERY different pages, as far as how to execute outcomes for that which we agree on.
RFK is the same. Sounds good until I dug into the particulars. Then he's a hard pass.
I wonder how much the Kennedy compound clans throwing RFK under the bus will hurt him with the boomers that actually attach value to the Kennedy brand. They are all throwing in their lot with senile old Joe.
Posted by: LizLem at May 30, 2024 02:54 PM (QAK8m)
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I don't understand why this prevents the Democrats from replacing Biden at the convention.
They have zero chance of winning Ohio anyway -- so they'll gladly sacrifice a spot on the Ohio ballot.
If anything, their unwillingness to accept the Ohio RINOs' mild compromise (banning foreign financing of Ohio ballot issues in the future, to get Biden on the ballot by changing state law) is evidence that the Dems have written Ohio off completely, not evidence that they've abandoned the idea of replacing Biden, as the original HotAir author claimed.
They might justify the switcharoo with a Biden health crisis, or even death, but that will just be a bit of stagecraft to make things more dramatically compelling.
They have zero chance of winning Ohio anyway -- so they'll gladly sacrifice a spot on the Ohio ballot.
If anything, their unwillingness to accept the Ohio RINOs' mild compromise (banning foreign financing of Ohio ballot issues in the future, to get Biden on the ballot by changing state law) is evidence that the Dems have written Ohio off completely, not evidence that they've abandoned the idea of replacing Biden, as the original HotAir author claimed.
They might justify the switcharoo with a Biden health crisis, or even death, but that will just be a bit of stagecraft to make things more dramatically compelling.
Posted by: Pastafarian at May 30, 2024 02:54 PM (wb+Cg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 03:43 PM (XkYcA)
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Well, the problem with this theory is still the electors.
They could get all the Biden electors to vote for whoever for President, including Cackling Kamala...
They could get all the Biden electors to vote for whoever for President, including Cackling Kamala...
Posted by: Naqamel at May 30, 2024 03:52 PM (PUJLA)
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What happens if the Dems 'virtual' nomination fails to nominate Biden?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at May 30, 2024 04:03 PM (TOe+Q)
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