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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

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Trust. I don't have it any more.

I used to trust the police. I used to trust my representatives and senators (at least a little). I used to trust the president to be at least minimally competent and patriotic. I used to trust the town employees. I used to trust clerks at stores. I used to trust the people around me as I walked or drove. I used to trust the governor to run the state halfway decently. I used to trust Washington D.C. to fumble around and screw things up but eventually find a decent solution that didn't get too many Americans killed. I used to trust the legal system to be screwed up but ultimately interested in the law.

But not any more.

The shift from minimally patriotic and focused a bit on the success and safety and security of our country, to a self-serving drive to maximize wealth and power at the expense of literally everyone seems to be complete. And that extends from the president selling influence, and destroying America in the process, down to the village clerk lining his pockets with the change from our parking meters (true story), or the building inspector taking bribes (another true story).

American Exceptionalism is many things, but one of the most profound differences was the shared commitment to our country and its greatness. We could trust the guy across the street or across the state or across the country to be dedicated to approximately the same things. Love of country. Patriotism. The belief that we were going to be better tomorrow. Even the great schism of The Civil War healed after shockingly few years. There are countries that had less profound and destructive internal differences 1,000 years ago that are still fighting! But we moved on.

No more. Our trust in each other has been so eroded by a never-ending cascade of disappointments and betrayals and lies that we no longer trust in the inherent goodness...the inherent superiority...of American Exceptionalism. We have devolved into a wealthier version of Yugoslavia or Sudan or Ukraine.

Who do we trust? Our friends. Our families. Our tribes.

Sound familiar?

[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM




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1 On prison watch

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:00 AM (rdISq)

2 Trust. I don't have it any more.

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I have trust. Plenty of it.

I trust institutions to lie to me constantly in an effort to increase their own wealth and power at my expense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

3 And dutifully called em

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:01 AM (rdISq)

4 Has the Dow been shutdown ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 11:01 AM (Akjoo)

5 My trust is largely gone

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:02 AM (rdISq)

6 Trust?.....just don't lose your faith.

Posted by: BignJames at May 30, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

7 Related and from the end of last thread Althouse has this story today:

"Young voters overwhelmingly believe that almost all politicians are corrupt and that the country will end up worse off than when they were born..."
"... according to new polling from Democratic firm Blueprint obtained exclusively by Semafor.... A whopping 65% agreed either strongly or somewhat that 'nearly all politicians are corrupt, and make money from their political power'


I mean...duh? I guess the yutes can see the same things everyone else can see.

The question is what the hell are they going to do about it. Vote for Dems and GOPers and this pattern will continue. Vote for socialists and it will get *worse*.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (ibTVg)

8 I trust very few anymore sad to say

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (Akjoo)

9 A low-trust society is not a good thing. But here we are.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (v6JzV)

10 NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA v.
VULLO looks like a big fucking deal

Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (RHGPo)

11 U.S. Calls for Rapid Deployment to Haiti Following Murder of Two Missionaries

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I thought the Clintons already fixed Haiti.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (L/fGl)

12 Patriotism leaves a bitter taste when we find out it means love of the state.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (ogTiX)

13 7 The question is what the hell are they going to do about it. Vote for Dems and GOPers and this pattern will continue. Vote for socialists and it will get *worse*.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (ibTVg)

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Socialists promise better. Republicans stand for nothing.

Vote D.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

14 Heritage America was an amazing thing to see. Perfect? No. But it was the best form of government mankind has seen.

Soviet America? When the politicians running this dystopia aren't looting you they are trying to inject you with literal poison.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:04 AM (ibTVg)

15 Trust. I don't have it any more.

I used to trust the police. I used to trust my representatives and senators (at least a little). I used to trust the president to be at least minimally competent and patriotic. I used to trust the town employees. I used to trust clerks at stores. I used to trust the people around me as I walked or drove. I used to trust the governor to run the state halfway decently. I used to trust Washington D.C. to fumble around and screw things up but eventually find a decent solution that didn't get too many Americans killed. I used to trust the legal system to be screwed up but ultimately interested in the law.

But not any more.

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Hmmm.

I'm a bit different, I think. I didn't ever really trust. I did have a now-shattered expectation of basic competence, but I didn't assume trustworthiness.

But I have nonetheless undergone a similar shift to yours. Mine was not "trust before, not-trust now" but rather "not-trust before, distrust now."

I now assume untrustworthiness. I distrust by default.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:05 AM (d04cU)

16 High trust society devolving to low trust society. Yugoslavia is probably an apt reference. Maybe we can avoid the worst of the slaughter involved in their dissolution.

Posted by: IronDave at May 30, 2024 11:05 AM (k3crU)

17 Walmart locking up deodorant on the shelves . . . a requirement to show ID wherever you go . . . the constant advice that "the police are not your friends" (because they aren't) . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)

18 We are no more than a year out from people seeing General Jack D. Ripper talk about fluoridation and wonder why he's supposed to be crazy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)

19 Anybody here seen my old friend Donald?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill
With Abraham, Martin, and John...

Posted by: Dion DiMucci at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (od9zZ)

20 Biden Campaign Co-Chair: Americans Have Too Many ‘Struggles’ Right Now to Understand Biden’s Incredible Achievements

Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (RHGPo)

21 Yeah, that 'Trust' thing - Regarding individuals, I generally start off trusting and will continue that until they abuse it. Organizations? That's more complicated for me. Even the organizations I belong to I view with a dose of skepticism. Oh sure, most of those orgs have large portions that are good and wholesome BUT, there also are sections of them that I don't trust at all.

Sad but it is what it is.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)

22 13 Socialists promise better. Republicans stand for nothing.

Vote D.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

The gross part of it is, that _is_ where all the Fighters are.

Posted by: XTC at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (6Uni8)

23 The universal vilification of "the narc" as a result of 90's fake-urban culture, gangster movies, or whatever, is partly to blame.

"That guy just popped the top off a spray can in the store and sprayed the actual merchandise and racking just to see if he likes the color...."

"Dude, just ignore it."

From trivial shit to massive traitorous geopolitical shit, a culture of "Dude just ignore it" is never going to lead to a high trust society.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (VoAdT)

24 Biden Campaign Co-Chair: Americans Have Too Many ‘Struggles’ Right Now to Understand Biden’s Incredible Achievements

Fox Butterfield, call your office.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)

25 Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (RHGPo)

At least I can always trust you to ignore the work of the cobloggers and try to derail the discussion onto what you feel like discussing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:07 AM (d9fT1)

26 Trust me, I won't....
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Yea, no. Hardly anyone's on the up-and-up anymore. Every institution has been corrupted. The country won't last under those conditions. The people living here will, but there won't be any cohesiveness or sense of unity.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 30, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

27 Socialists promise better. Republicans stand for nothing.

Vote D.

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The Dems are socialist now, too. That's not a solution.

Posted by: IronDave at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (k3crU)

28 After Covid, trust in the medical community/CDC
Gone.
Trust in the DOD leadership after Afghanistan
Gone
Trust in my state elections process since 2000
Gone
Trust in media
Gone
Trust in judicial system
Gone
And the list grows

Posted by: Diogenes at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (W/lyH)

29 And speaking of trust...someone mentioned a truth commission on COVID.

And...that makes a lot of sense. If you assume the government did the things it did out of a mistaken sense of trying to help people. Then of course you'd want to examine what went wrong, allow people that were wronged to have their say, and make sure that decision makers fully understood everything that happened.

But nothing about COVID was done for a positive reason. Which is why the powers that be will bury any discussions about it as much as they can.

And really, I can't think of a more perfect example of Soviet America then American bureaucrats creating a disease in China, having it come back to America, and then having people injected with poison to enrich those bureaucrats' best clients (and lower those darn healthcare costs!)

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (ibTVg)

30 We have devolved into a wealthier version of Yugoslavia or Sudan or Ukraine.
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Which means we will not be wealthier for long.

Broad-spectrum wealth requires trust and depends on vicarious trust (I trust you because Person X, whom I trust, trusts you) or trust enforcement (I trust you because Government X, which I trust, will keep you honest).

Nobody can know everything and everyone. Trust structures allow that not to matter, which lets people focus on doing their best in whatever their available scope happens to be. The result is more wealth for people because everyone can be more productive.

Without trust, your scope narrows to those you can know personally, and that which you can defend directly. The tribe, as you put it, is just about the largest workable boundary. So your scope and capability collapse, as does your productivity. Goodbye wealth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (d04cU)

31 So Dr. Jill says Joe "talked" to Walmart and Target and they are lowering prices because he "asked" ? Could it be some prices are being lowered because people can't afford to buy the stuff ? Walmart had good numbers but that is from grocery sales from what I read

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (Akjoo)

32
Trust. I don't have it any more.

Almost as if it were planned.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

33 At least our food supply is top notch.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 11:09 AM (ogTiX)

34 I haven't been able to "trust" a fart since I turned 60.

Posted by: Preznit Depends at May 30, 2024 11:09 AM (V5BDR)

35 "Dude, just ignore it."

From trivial shit to massive traitorous geopolitical shit, a culture of "Dude just ignore it" is never going to lead to a high trust society.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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Broken Windows

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (0ZYe2)

36 If you think your trust in those institutions has fallen, check in with a Gen Z'er. These kids have had their worlds turned upside down by hysterical and tyrannical adults for years now (Covid and then some.)

I'll give you a recent example of how f'd adults with authority have gotten: My niece attended an ECE-8th grade public school. Last week she went on her 8th grader trip to San Diego, something she was really looking forward to. Then the surprise: the organizers decided for some unknown reason that the kids needed to expand their social circles and intentional grouped the kids in a way that *separated them from their friends*. After up to 10 years together in school and they can't even enjoy a few days with friends on the trip.

I doubt Gen Z will EVER trust institutions -- and adults better prepare for when they come into power, it may not be pretty for them.

*Before you comment "should have done private school" - she's joining her sister in private, Christian HS next fall. It was a battle between parents to do this, and the smart parent won

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (cCVOS)

37 Does this place count as a tribe?

Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (nCaYE)

38 While I don't discount the loss of trust in this country, it's far worse in other countries, e.g. China. Everyone there is on the make, and those that can, move their ill-gotten gains out of the country. Which country? Why, here, of course.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)

39 Almost as if it were planned.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 11:08 AM (63Dwl)
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I really don't think so. The power-mad elites were banking on trust remaining in place. All of their schemes depend on it. It's why, despite their abject failure to comprehend the causes of current conditions, the WEF is so fixated on trust restoration.

They *need* trust restoration in order to keep their game running.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (d04cU)

40 Trust. I don't have it any more.

Almost as if it were planned.


I really doubt the idiots destroying the country are capable of that level of planning.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)

41 no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts. But this , this you can trust.

Posted by: Conan the Barbarian, Sr at May 30, 2024 11:11 AM (EaEMG)

42 Oh and in addition to the government screwing over the population most other nominally independent groups joined them - the medical establishment, both political parties, big business, and even much of the religious leadership.

Heritage America distributed power across all level of government and civic and religious groups to make this sort of tyranny impossible but...Heritage America has been dead for a long time now

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:11 AM (ibTVg)

43 This is why, as a new widow, I'm doing my shotgun drills quite often.

With props, of course. Sadly, we lost our guns in a boating accident a few years back.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at May 30, 2024 11:11 AM (JCLJi)

44 Does this place count as a tribe?
Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (nCaYE)

Ummmmmmm...Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2024 11:11 AM (od9zZ)

45 Almost as if it were planned.

I don't think it was. I think all the little factions running things ... many times with cross purposes ... are surprised and stunned that their top-down edicts aren't working.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 30, 2024 11:11 AM (CBkic)

46 Aside from the government (which I don't trust) I don't really think about who I trust and who I don't, except that I trust my husband and I trust my son-both of them to love me and put up with me. I'm pretty good about knowing when people are trying to pull things over on me or when they have some kinds of issues that affect their dealings with me and I deal with them as best I can.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 11:12 AM (XkYcA)

47 Does this place count as a tribe?

Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (nCaYE)

If you ignore the factions (9mm vs. .45ACP, etc.) then...yes!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:12 AM (d9fT1)

48 Consider that, as long as they are getting payment from the government, that person will trust the government and demand others do so as well.

So, despite what the 4th Turning folks suggest, retirees are not going to take a cut to save the country.
Note how Biden and the rest of his age group are desperately trying to buy the youth vote to join their Loot Americans Coalition?

Consent of the governed at the business end of a gun barrel ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 11:12 AM (g9W3m)

49 If you wonder why regular people no longer trust police, check out Lackluster Channel and Audit the Audit on YouTube. It's not a few rare screwup, It's hundreds of unedited videos of interactions where the cop escalates and stomps all over the rights of mostly Normies.

One of my employees was threatened with violence (shooting) 2 weeks ago by a delivery driver. I called local cops. They had two witnesses fill out statements. While we waited, his tubby partner explained to me how when the 1st amendment was written, the Founders couldn't have predicted TV or the internet. Thus, it shouldn't apply to those mediums.

Those cops left without giving my employee a business card, a phone number, or a case number.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 30, 2024 11:12 AM (iRPtN)

50 31 So Dr. Jill says Joe "talked" to Walmart and Target and they are lowering prices because he "asked" ? Could it be some prices are being lowered because people can't afford to buy the stuff ? Walmart had good numbers but that is from grocery sales from what I read

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I believe Target continues to be hurt by the boycott (During Pride Month???!!!!!!) and they and Walmart are fighting for customers, as they should.

Posted by: IronDave at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (k3crU)

51 >>So Dr. Jill says Joe "talked" to Walmart and Target and they are lowering prices because he "asked" ?


How could this be considered a good thing?

A POTUS shouldn't dictate prices, that's fascism.
A POTUS during an election year "asking" biggest retailers to lower prices is election tampering.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (cCVOS)

52 While I don't discount the loss of trust in this country, it's far worse in other countries, e.g. China.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)


You are absolutely correct. But think about how far we have fallen...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (d9fT1)

53 While I don't discount the loss of trust in this country, it's far worse in other countries, e.g. China. Everyone there is on the make, and those that can, move their ill-gotten gains out of the country. Which country? Why, here, of course.

A small part of the explosion of housing costs in the US is caused by Chinese nationals parking money here in real estate. They do it because even if they piss off the Chinese government it really can't seize their assets in the US (at least for now).

I know a real estate agent who has mentioned speaking Mandarin is considered a plus in a number of leading markets...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (ibTVg)

54 A low-trust society is not a good thing. But here we are.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 30, 2024 11:03 AM (v6JzV)


That's one reason I love visiting Japan and feel very comfortable there. It's still a high-trust society. In a lot of ways it feels like 60s America.

By and large people still try to do their jobs properly there and are polite.

As a stupid example, if you see a poster for a new sandwich or hamburger at some fast-food place,
the sandwich/hamburger will come to you looking like the poster version. Not some smashed, thrown together piece of shit.

Although, Their Betters have adopted the same leftist retardation of America and the West and are trying to destroy that trust.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (eDfFs)

55 47 Does this place count as a tribe?

Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (nCaYE)

If you ignore the factions (9mm vs. .45ACP, etc.) then...yes!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:12 AM


If you desire a LARGE tribe, then you must allow for a certain number of factions!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (HlyYF)

56 I have some family members and a few close friends I would trust with my life and have. That's about it but that was always the way.

I don't trust institutions, I trust individuals but only after they prove they are worthy of my trust.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (LkLld)

57 So, despite what the 4th Turning folks suggest, retirees are not going to take a cut to save the country.

I would if I were convinced that my cut wouldn't immediately be wasted on bribing some Dem interest group, but would actually to to solving the problem. That's gonna be a heavy lift, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

58 Nicole Brown Simpson Doc Exposes OJ's Homophobic Rage...

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OMG! Murder I can understand but homophobia?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (L/fGl)

59 While I don't discount the loss of trust in this country, it's far worse in other countries, e.g. China.

--

Diversity is our strength.

I wonder if that's related?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Except for religious obedience, name one benefit marriage provides to U.S. men at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (ONUvy)

60 Trust, the tie that binds.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (0ZYe2)

61 50 I believe Target continues to be hurt by the boycott (During Pride Month???!!!!!!) and they and Walmart are fighting for customers, as they should.
Posted by: IronDave at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (k3crU)

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Capitalism cannot be given any good press.

It must be the will of the centralized power.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)

62 ... As a stupid example, if you see a poster for a new sandwich or hamburger at some fast-food place, the sandwich/hamburger will come to you looking like the poster version. Not some smashed, thrown together piece of shit. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (eDfFs)
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Man, this hits close to home.

Posted by: Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down' at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (d04cU)

63 It is my practice to base trust on predictability. If you can predict how someone will act or respond, you can put controls in place to protect yourself or use their predictability to provoke a desirable result.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:15 AM (Ectld)

64

Family. Clan. Tribe.

Everyone else is food.

Or, in certain cases, harem candidates...

Posted by: Rod Porkmore at May 30, 2024 11:15 AM (DWmJG)

65
I would if I were convinced that my cut wouldn't immediately be wasted on bribing some Dem interest group, but would actually to to solving the problem. That's gonna be a heavy lift, though.


How will Ukrainian bureaucrats pay for early retirement if *you* don't accept a loss in your retirement benefits right now?

Posted by: Your government in action at May 30, 2024 11:15 AM (ibTVg)

66 Jill Biden says 'polls are going to turn' in favor of Biden. On "The View" Wednesday, “As time goes on and as people start to focus a little bit more about what’s at stake and start to become educated on the issues and the differences between the two men, I believe that Americans are going to choose good over evil,” she said.

I'm curious who is suffering in this economy and for what reason. We always hear about high prices but that hasn't stopped people from spending. Biden's economic policies are pretty inclusive. If someone is left behind, our party probably has a policy or plan to help them too. That needs to be made known to the voters.

The one thing that I think is hurting us now is the price of groceries and the things at drugs stores. I don't know what President Biden can do about that but I remember him talking about how it is not inflation so much as it is companies taking advantage of former inflation and just keeping their prices high.

Jill said on "The View" that Biden has been meeting with the CEOs of Target, Walmart and grocery stores about bringing down prices and they have responded!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2024 11:16 AM (JCZqz)

67 I would if I were convinced that my cut wouldn't immediately be wasted on bribing some Dem interest group, but would actually to to solving the problem. That's gonna be a heavy lift, though.

How will Ukrainian bureaucrats pay for early retirement if *you* don't accept a loss in your retirement benefits right now?

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We've already been shown that taxes are meaningless and are entirely punitive at this point. Of course they're going to take it and launder it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Except for religious obedience, name one benefit marriage provides to U.S. men at May 30, 2024 11:16 AM (ONUvy)

68 I don't trust institutions, I trust individuals but only after they prove they are worthy of my trust.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (LkLld)

Yes. Perhaps I should have expanded on what I mean by "trust."

[But what about the Mets?]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:16 AM (d9fT1)

69 57 So, despite what the 4th Turning folks suggest, retirees are not going to take a cut to save the country.
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Take SS and Medicare out of the General Fund then come talk about it.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:17 AM (0ZYe2)

70 Trust in God.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 30, 2024 11:17 AM (xIMxO)

71 On "The View" Wednesday, “As time goes on and as people start to focus a little bit more about what’s at stake and start to become educated on the issues and the differences between the two men, I believe that Americans are going to choose good over evil,” she said.

I don't think that statement means what she thinks it means.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:17 AM (xCA6C)

72 Jill said on "The View" that Biden has been meeting with the CEOs of Target, Walmart and grocery stores about bringing down prices and they have responded!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2024 11:16 AM (JCZqz)

And that's a good thing when the Government strong arms companies ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 11:17 AM (Akjoo)

73 66 I'm curious who is suffering in this economy and for what reason. We always hear about high prices but that hasn't stopped people from spending. Biden's economic policies are pretty inclusive. If someone is left behind, our party probably has a policy or plan to help them too. That needs to be made known to the voters.

The one thing that I think is hurting us now is the price of groceries and the things at drugs stores. I don't know what President Biden can do about that but I remember him talking about how it is not inflation so much as it is companies taking advantage of former inflation and just keeping their prices high.

Jill said on "The View" that Biden has been meeting with the CEOs of Target, Walmart and grocery stores about bringing down prices and they have responded!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2024 11:16 AM (JCZqz)

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The idea that Biden can talk CEOs into not being greedy is hilarious. Why were CEOs not greedy under Trump?

Did Trump talk to them and Biden just needed 4 years to figure that out?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:17 AM (GBKbO)

74 63 It is my practice to base trust on predictability. If you can predict how someone will act or respond, you can put controls in place to protect yourself or use their predictability to provoke a desirable result.
Posted by: Ribbed
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Very reasonable.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:18 AM (PkS4e)

75 63 It is my practice to base trust on predictability. If you can predict how someone will act or respond, you can put controls in place to protect yourself or use their predictability to provoke a desirable result.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:15 AM


Agreed. That works well in a "liberal" society where I am free to make all of my own choices.

That does NOT work in an authoritarian society! I can accurately predict what Biden and the rest of the Democrat Fascists are going to do. However, I am having increasing difficulty in evading the consequences.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:18 AM (HlyYF)

76 >>We always hear about high prices but that hasn't stopped people from spending.


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO EAT.
B#TCH

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 30, 2024 11:18 AM (cCVOS)

77 >>[But what about the Mets?]

I absolutely trust the Mets will disappoint me. Annually.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:18 AM (LkLld)

78 If you desire a LARGE tribe, then you must allow for a certain number of factions!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (HlyYF)

True...but 9mm? Really? Isn't that beyond the pale?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM (d9fT1)

79 Man, this hits close to home.
Posted by: Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down' at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (d04cU)

Mike Douglas...Oh Mike Douglas! You know Mike Douglas used to make me moist when I watched his show. I'll admit it I used to get moist when I watched his show. Only white man ever did that to me was Mike Douglas.

Posted by: Granny Klump at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM (od9zZ)

80 Tying in the tail of the last thread, the biggest decline in trust is within the marriage.

And not just "trust that he/she won't cheat," that's skyrocketing.

But also, trust that she won't ruin me financially.

And I mean "she." Because there are no state agencies devoted to ensuring the finances of the father in divorce, no non-profit legals to advocate, no "in practice" laws that let him out with equal assets.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM (g9W3m)

81 Man, this hits close to home.

Posted by: Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down' at May 30, 2024 11:14 AM (d04cU)


That movie always felt like two movies awkwardly put together.

One in which an everyman is tired of being screwed over by the government/society at every turn and just refuses to keep turning the other cheek.

And then another where old white men and their sense of entitlement are the problem...

If you really pay attention there are gems too like Douglas's wife getting a bullshit restraining order on him, or a younger black man dressed just like Douglas also getting the heavy hand of government/society f*cking him over

If they remade this movie again Douglas would be a child abusing white supremacist that would get along great with the Neo-Nazi character...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM (ibTVg)

82 I absolutely trust the Mets will disappoint me. Annually.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:18 AM (LkLld)

Perfect!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:20 AM (d9fT1)

83 Then I volunteer to lead the Mary Ann, .45, long bow faction.
Can faction leaders demand tribute?

Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:20 AM (nCaYE)

84 62 ... As a stupid example, if you see a poster for a new sandwich or hamburger at some fast-food place, the sandwich/hamburger will come to you looking like the poster version. Not some smashed, thrown together piece of shit. ...
Posted by: naturalfake
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I've been saying this. The Big Mac or double Mac's beef patty is just a little bit bigger than their old Dollar Burger. No way does it touch either side of the bun. However, the picture has it extending out past the bun - all sides.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (0ZYe2)

85 >>The idea that Biden can talk CEOs into not being greedy is hilarious. Why were CEOs not greedy under Trump?


IIRC, the margin for grocery stores is slim.

Businesses are dealing with all sorts of increases - cost of goods, cost of transportation, increased rent, increased labor (all due to Democrat policies). How is it *they* are expected to eat the costs for all these increases? It's not greed, it's survival for small businesses.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (cCVOS)

86 I'm curious who is suffering in this economy and for what reason. We always hear about high prices but that hasn't stopped people from spending. Biden's economic policies are pretty inclusive. If someone is left behind, our party probably has a policy or plan to help them too. That needs to be made known to the voters. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2024 11:16 AM (JCZqz)
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Bonkers.

Of course people are still spending. They still have to live, and living requires stuff, and stuff requires spending. Inflation means they're spending *at least* the same number of dollars as before, too.

But those dollars buy less per dollar and if the number of dollars you earn do not grow enough to match the inflation rate, your consumption falls (standard of living declines), you go into debt (increase personal risk), or both.

But spending still happens, so all is well, right?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (d04cU)

87 78 If you desire a LARGE tribe, then you must allow for a certain number of factions!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (HlyYF)

True...but 9mm? Really? Isn't that beyond the pale?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM


My wife has a .380 pistol. I suppose you are really going to boot me from the tribe now?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (HlyYF)

88 I don't have a tribe.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (dGCAG)

89 I trust that the GOP likes little boys.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (aFNOf)

90 We've already been shown that taxes are meaningless and are entirely punitive at this point. Of course they're going to take it and launder it.

If there was an opposition party they'd be turning the punitive powers of taxation on the left.

I mean Trump did in a couple of cases, but you could shut down large portions of the left's funding model with a few regulations making sure they "pay their fair share"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (ibTVg)

91 Socialists promise better (for the upper echelon). Republicans stand for nothing (for the masses).
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The gross part of it is, that _is_ where all the Fighters are.
Posted by: XTC at May 30, 2024 11:06 AM (6Uni


The fighters in Congress are lining their pockets, the fighters on the streets are disposable idiots, as always.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (U7wke)

92 87 But those dollars buy less per dollar and if the number of dollars you earn do not grow enough to match the inflation rate, your consumption falls (standard of living declines), you go into debt (increase personal risk), or both.

But spending still happens, so all is well, right?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (d04cU)

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They don't talk much about the explosion in personal debt much, for some reason.

Probably just an oversight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)

93 Of course people are still spending. They still have to live, and living requires stuff, and stuff requires spending. Inflation means they're spending *at least* the same number of dollars as before, too.

But those dollars buy less per dollar and if the number of dollars you earn do not grow enough to match the inflation rate, your consumption falls (standard of living declines), you go into debt (increase personal risk), or both.

But spending still happens, so all is well, right?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

-

It's like pointing to the 40K DOW while ignoring 50% inflation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Except for religious obedience, name one benefit marriage provides to U.S. men at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (ONUvy)

94 Also saying my Double Jack has big beef patties that actually taste like beef.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (0ZYe2)

95 True...but 9mm? Really? Isn't that beyond the pale?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM (d9fT1)
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Those beyond the pale are, by definition, not in the tribe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (d04cU)

96 That movie always felt like two movies awkwardly put together.

One in which an everyman is tired of being screwed over by the government/society at every turn and just refuses to keep turning the other cheek.

And then another where old white men and their sense of entitlement are the problem...


Watch the Big Short. It's an excellent movie, but in the end, it completely whiffs on the causes of the 2008 crash, and mocks people who attribute it to poor people and immigrants. Left unsaid is who, for political reasons, pushed poor people and immigrants into houses they couldn't afford and weren't prepared to treat as a first obligation on their money.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

97 My wife has a .380 pistol. I suppose you are really going to boot me from the tribe now?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (HlyYF)

My current favorite pistol is a 9mm.

But don't tell anyone!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (d9fT1)

98 I've been saying this. The Big Mac or double Mac's beef patty is just a little bit bigger than their old Dollar Burger. No way does it touch either side of the bun. However, the picture has it extending out past the bun - all sides.


Shrinkflation. Allows them to raise prices less.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (ibTVg)

99 So they did close down the Dow

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (Akjoo)

100 Cordell & Cordell-Domestic issues law firm on behalf of men:

https://cordellcordell.com/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (XkYcA)

101 91 I mean Trump did in a couple of cases, but you could shut down large portions of the left's funding model with a few regulations making sure they "pay their fair share"
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM (ibTVg)

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What if the (effective) repeal of the SALT deduction ends up being the single greatest policy change to modify the makeup of America in the past century?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

102 CBD you've caused me to think about it (damn you!).

I find that I have a distrust gov because I grew up in CA and watched the State gov destroy the States future.
We moved out after just 9 years of marriage to a State I thought was proof against what happened there.
And then I watched the AZ gop(bastards) kill the trust in this State too.
""They"" don't deserve anyone's trust.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 30, 2024 11:23 AM (VwGj+)

103 I've been saying this. The Big Mac or double Mac's beef patty is just a little bit bigger than their old Dollar Burger. No way does it touch either side of the bun. However, the picture has it extending out past the bun - all sides.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (0ZYe2)

Almost makes you want to fall down.

Posted by: William Foster at May 30, 2024 11:23 AM (dGCAG)

104 We are no more than a year out from people seeing General Jack D. Ripper talk about fluoridation and wonder why he's supposed to be crazy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Like the good General, I do not avoid women TJM, but I do deny them my essence.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 30, 2024 11:23 AM (WXNFJ)

105 >>But spending still happens, so all is well, right?

DOCTOR Jill Biden is an educator.
Of course she doesn't understand economics.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (cCVOS)

106 Tying in the tail of the last thread, the biggest decline in trust is within the marriage.

The left spent a lot of effort on making a large cohort of women HATE men. And they succeeded.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (ibTVg)

107 32
‘ Almost as if it were planned. ’

If that is someone’s plan, it is a stupid one. Lack of trust increases the difficulty of any transaction by a factor of 10. This will make coordination of any but the smallest of scale’s impossible. That includes whatever it is you’re implying as the goal of the elites.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (jbnUc)

108 >>I'm curious who is suffering in this economy and for what reason. We always hear about high prices but that hasn't stopped people from spending

2024 Q1 GDP was just revised downward from an already lackluster 1.6% to 1.3%.

You are suffering, dumbass.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (LkLld)

109 98 My wife has a .380 pistol. I suppose you are really going to boot me from the tribe now?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (HlyYF)

My current favorite pistol is a 9mm.

But don't tell anyone!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:22 AM


No Morons EVER read the comments.

Your secret is safe with me!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (HlyYF)

110 Does this place count as a tribe?
Posted by: RI Red

For the Cleveland Horde, it's more of a 'Guardian'.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (WXNFJ)

111 Yes, I think WM has cut some prices. Usually their own brand of woven-wheat crackers, 9 oz. size, is $2.49, and the similar box of Triscuit name brand (8 oz., though) is $3.75. This weekend they were out of the house brand, but the Triscuits were "rolled back" to $2.99.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (J2vNu)

112 A high trust society is necessary for a LOT of the things we take for granted.

We've been slowly losing that over the past 50 years.

Japan is a high-trust society. It's also VERY homogenous.

U.S. used to be a high trust society which being heterogenous. But we decided to kill the "melting pot" idea that allowed that high-trust society.

I've been teaching my children that you can't have any idea what a random stranger will do. (They are young teenagers who think that teasing random strangers outside the restaurant window is funny.) 50 years ago, I'd have likely just been embarrassed by that instead of worried for their safety.

Imagine how much worse it's going to get.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (N1DT3)

113 109 2024 Q1 GDP was just revised downward from an already lackluster 1.6% to 1.3%.

You are suffering, dumbass.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (LkLld)

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If I remember correctly, that was almost all driven by government spending, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

114 So they did close down the Dow

For a 1% drop? That seems a bit premature.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)

115 We have devolved into a wealthier version of Yugoslavia or Sudan or Ukraine.

Yugoslavia was relatively wealthy for the time, and really is a fascinating story of a fairly successful, mostly benevolent dictatorship under a mostly Communist government. Much like the early US, it was composed of states with some level of individual sovereignty, but the Federal government was always strong enough to wrangle them when necessary.
The lessons they DIDN’T learn from the US experiment that ultimately doomed them, however:

1- no good succession plan. When Tito died, it created a scramble for power. Our system is usually more orderly and less destructive

2- Keep the federal capital independent and self sufficient. Their capital is in Serbia, the largest and most powerful state of the bunch. When Tito's successor (Milosevic, a Serb) had problems with the Congress, he had swarms of angry, rioting Serbs outside Congress threatening people until he got his way.

Posted by: Military Moron at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (JCZqz)

116 Trust is one of those core ideals that has a level of analysis problem. What is true for the individual is not true for society as a whole and vice versa.

Our governing institutions in the US were specifically set up where no branch of government needs to trust or work with another to function. Unfortunately, bureaucracy has tied up each of these branches into a network and this has the consequence of removing useful feedback for each of the branches to be able to govern.

Instead, the three branches are tied together into an amorphous fedgov blob that oozes, envelopes, and dissolves any obstacle in its path. What we are seeing with the Trump trials is such a blob action.

Instead of trust binding our institutions together, we get greed for money and power. Naturally in such a situation, smart individuals simply either avoid the blob as much as possible or they surf on the blob's surface hoping to get what they can while the getting is good before the blob absorbs them.

In neither case, do they 'trust' the fedgov blob.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:26 AM (PkS4e)

117 Well, Salesforce has lost 20% today. That's fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)

118 I don't have a tribe.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (dGCAG)

Make one up or combine several and you too can before the head of the MET museum Native American wing, except that your name would probably have to be "Bertha" and not "Burt" .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2024 11:26 AM (XkYcA)

119 >>Left unsaid is who, for political reasons, pushed poor people and immigrants into houses they couldn't afford and weren't prepared to treat as a first obligation on their money.

It wasn't the white, frat boy, douchebags responsible for all those stupid loans to strippers and the unemployed as they depicted in the movie?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:26 AM (cCVOS)

120 Left unsaid is who, for political reasons, pushed poor people and immigrants into houses they couldn't afford and weren't prepared to treat as a first obligation on their money.

It wasn't the white, frat boy, douchebags responsible for all those stupid loans to strippers and the unemployed as they depicted in the movie?


But now I have a boat!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:27 AM (xCA6C)

121 118 Well, Salesforce has lost 20% today. That's fun.


oh that does make me smile

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 11:27 AM (s3qiR)

122 What if the (effective) repeal of the SALT deduction ends up being the single greatest policy change to modify the makeup of America in the past century?

I know a lot of wealthy lefty LIVs. They are in the top 20% bracket or higher...

They tell be with absolutely certainty that:

1) The rich aren't paying enough in taxes and all our economic problems could be solved by making them "pay their fair share"

2) That they can't afford any more taxes - do you know what the mortgage on a $5M house is? And the cost for a nanny, and two luxury SUVs, and two trips to Europe a year and...on and on...why how are middle class people like us supposed to make ends meet?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:27 AM (ibTVg)

123 I just did a shed deal on a hand shake. Payment upon completion. Gives me a warm feeling just thinking about it. Good money spent for quality work. Shook hands to start, shook hands at finish.

Posted by: Neil P at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (Z8Yh2)

124 CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten explained on Thursday that the reason for young voters shifting from President Joe Biden to former President Donald Trump is likely due to their desire for significant change in the country.

Some polling has suggested Biden’s plunge in young voter support is related to his perceived support of Israel in its conflict with terrorist organization Hamas, but the movement away from the president began well before the October 7 Hamas attacks. Enten on “CNN News Central” said that the true reason for Biden’s loss of young voters is that they want “major change,” and believe Trump is the one to deliver on that desire.

“Remember, John, those voters under the age of 25 right now were at best born in 2000,” Enten added. “They were probably born later than 2000. They don’t remember 9/11. They really don’t remember the Bush years. They barely remember the Obama years. It’s perhaps time that we’re going to see a change like we saw earlier in the 21st century.”

Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (RHGPo)

125 Take SS and Medicare out of the General Fund then come talk about it.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 11:17 AM (0ZYe2)
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Yep. They're taxes. They show up that way on your pay stub. They are not an investment, just another slush fund from which votes are purchased from the old and infirm.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (iRPtN)

126 [A "trip" down memory lane:]

"So after they drove the car into the ditch, made it as difficult as possible for us to pull it back, now they want the keys back.

No! You can’t drive! We don’t want to have to go back into the ditch! We just got the car out!"


-- President DogEater

Posted by: ShainS -- New Trump Standard of Justice: Guilty Until Proven Guilty at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (bu09+)

127
I trust you and my dog ... and I have doubts about you.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (xG4kz)

128 What if the (effective) repeal of the SALT deduction ends up being the single greatest policy change to modify the makeup of America in the past century?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin at May 30, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

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NO!!! Bringing back SALT is TOP PRIORITY! This is the one thing we blue state residents ask in exchange for carrying the red states on our backs!

Posted by: Trustworthy Blue State Guy at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (ogTiX)

129 My wife has a .380 pistol. I suppose you are really going to boot me from the tribe now?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Nope. First rule of gunfights says you’re good

Posted by: Kratwurst at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (fcDpY)

130 ... Our governing institutions in the US were specifically set up where no branch of government needs to trust or work with another to function. Unfortunately, bureaucracy has tied up each of these branches into a network and this has the consequence of removing useful feedback for each of the branches to be able to govern. ...
Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:26 AM (PkS4e)
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"Balance of power" systems are designed because of the problems with institutional trust - so make sub-institutions compete in order to move the institution as a whole, and make the process extremely difficult and adversarial.

The "blob" as you put it can be laid at the feet of the Congress. They spent a few decades signing enabling acts to shirk their responsibility and skim off the top while outsourcing their own jobs to the executive.

Goodbye balance of power.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (d04cU)

131 111 Don't get me started on that. Naming a baseball team after some ugly statues on the world's longest bridge (goes all the way from Africa to Puerto Rico) just to be woke kinda sucks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (V5eKu)

132 .. As a stupid example, if you see a poster for a new sandwich or hamburger at some fast-food place, the sandwich/hamburger will come to you looking like the poster version. Not some smashed, thrown together piece of shit. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2024 11:13 AM (eDfFs)


They have those at nicer restaurants also. It's handy because you can just point to the thing you want, or use the menu number and know that you're not getting surprised when your food arrives.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (U7wke)

133 113 A high trust society is necessary for a LOT of the things we take for granted. We've been slowly losing that over the past 50 years.

Born in early 70s, poverty level. I have NEVER seen this "Heritage America". Seriously.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (CBkic)

134 I trust this girl when she tells me her breasts are natural.

https://tinyurl.com/42wn92tf

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (aFNOf)

135 Patriotism, like Chivalry has been destroyed by the left with major help from deeply stupid and thoughtless women.

Posted by: Xipe Tptec at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (kzHlT)

136 I just did a shed deal on a hand shake. Payment upon completion. Gives me a warm feeling just thinking about it. Good money spent for quality work. Shook hands to start, shook hands at finish.

Posted by: Neil P at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (Z8Yh2)

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"Try that in a small town."

Oh wait, you probably did ...

Posted by: ShainS -- New Trump Standard of Justice: Guilty Until Proven Guilty at May 30, 2024 11:30 AM (bu09+)

137 But spending still happens, so all is well, right?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (d04cU)

It would probably take graphs and charts to show, but I'm guessing people are reacting to the world's volatility with excess spending. Not everybody, but enough that it probably is showing up in various ways.

History has shown collapsing civilizations engaging in all kinds of frivolity and excess, and I think we see some of that here. Poor people buying I phones and fancy rims for the tires on their 1995 Chevy Cavaliers, rich people buying expensive liquor and vacations, middle class buying tattoos and beard wax.

All while the world burns around us.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:30 AM (dGCAG)

138 I never had this trust, I was jealous of people (like my husband) who did have it.

his parents are still together and happy.

mine divorced acrimoniously when I was in middle school, after years of obviously cheating on each other.

so, I think the behavior of the generation before us - slightly selfish, no Greatest Gen they - has something to do with it.

plus importing tons of people from coutries with low trust systems, of course.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 11:30 AM (s3qiR)

139 I used to trust the media to tell me the truth.

Posted by: Geoff Tate at May 30, 2024 11:30 AM (OguvZ)

140 trust this girl when she tells me her breasts are natural.

https://tinyurl.com/42wn92tf
Posted by: Maj. Healey


I'd trust her. They're not that big.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 30, 2024 11:31 AM (v6JzV)

141 90 I trust that the GOP likes little boys.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (aFNOf)
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That's why so many of their voters seek to protect them from Pedocrats. So, fair point.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 30, 2024 11:31 AM (iRPtN)

142 >>“Remember, John, those voters under the age of 25 right now were at best born in 2000,” Enten added. “They were probably born later than 2000. They don’t remember 9/11. They really don’t remember the Bush years. They barely remember the Obama years.


Did he say that with a straight face?
How can they remember 9/11 if they were born after it? How could they remember the Bush years if they were ages 8 and under during those years?

[insert quote about being stupider for having heard this utterance, from that Adam Sandler movie, here]

Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:31 AM (cCVOS)

143
No! You can’t drive! We don’t want to have to go back into the ditch! We just got the car out!"

-- President DogEater
Posted by: ShainS -- New Trump Standard of Justice: Guilty Until Proven Guilty


Was that his imaginary world where those who failed to agree with him were described as carousers having a gay old time clowning around in the car's back seat and guzzling Icees as they did so?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 30, 2024 11:31 AM (xG4kz)

144 plus importing tons of people from coutries with low trust systems, of course.

One of the many many stupid examples of leftist double think around immigration:

1) Massive numbers of immigrants will make us more diverse and diversity is our strength!

2) If you believe immigrants will bring the political culture and views they had back home with them here you are racist.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:31 AM (ibTVg)

145 I only wonder if 30% of this country are Marxists, but 80% of *them* are concentrated in the high population zones, then maybe most of us can still trust the guy across the street? Or at least trust but verify...

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 11:32 AM (RlXwv)

146 I'm curious who is suffering in this economy and for what reason. 
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I've been saying for a while now, the left has so isolated themselves inside a bubble, they don't know what they don't know--because they don't want to know.

They think folks are attending Trump rallies cause they're cultists enthralled by a con man.
They don't want to know that it's ordinary people who are suffering and ignored by both parties.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 11:32 AM (g9W3m)

147 Arby's is the greatest offender when showing sammiches on TV that will disappoint when picked up. Also gyros and wraps.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 30, 2024 11:32 AM (V5eKu)

148 Agreed. That works well in a "liberal" society where I am free to make all of my own choices. That does NOT work in an authoritarian society!
---------
Sometimes you have to take the hits as they come. You can't control everything, but you can limit the consequences. It is what it is, but also, you can work on subtle resistance and throwing sand in the cogs.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:33 AM (Ectld)

149 Arby's is the greatest offender when showing sammiches on TV that will disappoint when picked up. Also gyros and wraps.

I would think the prize goes to dating sites.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)

150 I trust that the GOP likes little boys.

Like? Seems a little bit of a weak term for it...

Posted by: Denis Hastert at May 30, 2024 11:33 AM (ibTVg)

151 Born in early 70s, poverty level. I have NEVER seen this "Heritage America". Seriously.
Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (CBkic)

Chickens and eggs.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 11:33 AM (VoAdT)

152 >>U.S. used to be a high trust society which being heterogenous. But we decided to kill the "melting pot" idea that allowed that high-trust society.

When I was in grammar school we lived in a small community not far from NYC. We walked to school, it was only a couple blocks away despite it being uphill both ways.

After school and particularly on weekends we roamed the town on our bikes playing whatever games we wanted or just went exploring. The only rule was be home by dinner time.

There were no parents overtly watching us but at the same time they were all watching us just in case we did something exceptionally stupid. Nobody was worried about a kid getting snatched off the street or abused. Wasn't even a topic. We were masters of the universe. Can't even imagine that happening today.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024 11:33 AM (LkLld)

153 It would probably take graphs and charts to show, but I'm guessing people are reacting to the world's volatility with excess spending. Not everybody, but enough that it probably is showing up in various ways. ...
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:30 AM (dGCAG)
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Surpluses, if any, beg to be spent in inflationary times. "I can get it now, but who knows about tomorrow - and tomorrow, it ain't worth shit anyway."

It also changes demand for durable goods, if you happen to have any capital for them. I am an example of this. Last year, I replaced my aged HVAC system. it worked, but parts were scarce and refrigerant shockingly expensive. The next fault would be its last, and it was over 30 years old - well outside its design life. I opted to buy during the low season and pre-emptively replace it while I could negotiate for it, and to lock in the current price. Its replacement was statistically inevitable within a few years (it was long since on borrowed time), so I opted to negotiate terms and lock in current pricing.

The demand my HVAC replacement represents was not above what it would have been, it was merely pulled forward. Inflation was a factor in that pull-forward.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:34 AM (d04cU)

154 116 Yugoslavia was relatively wealthy for the time, and really is a fascinating story of a fairly successful, mostly benevolent dictatorship under a mostly Communist government.
Posted by: Military Moron
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You left out two key matters. One is that Yugoslavia was able to borrow vast amounts of money from the West under the aegis of penetrating the Soviet bloc. The Ljubljana Gap was a key invasion point into Austria and thus was of strategic interest to the West. Once the Iron Curtain fell, the loans stopped and demands for repayment came.

Second, there was and is deep fissures in Yugoslavia due to history. The Muslims, primarily in big cities, were basically race traitors to the natives and functioned as the Turkish allies in oppressing the Christians under Turkish rule. The other was the split between Orthodox Serbs that looked to Russia for guidance due to Russia support against the Ottomans.

The Croats, Slovenes, etc. that were Catholic and looked to the West--Italy or Austria. The Habsburg Empire had long used both the Croats and Slovenes as border states to shield the core against Turkish invasion.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:34 AM (PkS4e)

155 If that is someone’s plan, it is a stupid one. Lack of trust increases the difficulty of any transaction by a factor of 10. This will make coordination of any but the smallest of scale’s impossible. That includes whatever it is you’re implying as the goal of the elites.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 11:24 AM (jbnUc)

Start with two separate thought experiments:

1. The goal is not order, but chaos.
B. The powerful are as stupid as they appear to be.

Either or both could be true, and are not incompatible with the possibility a planned operation.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

156 124 I just did a shed deal on a hand shake. Payment upon completion. Gives me a warm feeling just thinking about it. Good money spent for quality work. Shook hands to start, shook hands at finish.
Posted by: Neil P at May 30, 2024 11:28 AM (Z8Yh2)
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That's good, civilizing behavior, right there.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 30, 2024 11:34 AM (iRPtN)

157 I trust the person that tells me Lindsey Graham has never had knowledge with a woman.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:35 AM (aFNOf)

158 It would probably take graphs and charts to show, but I'm guessing people are reacting to the world's volatility with excess spending. Not everybody, but enough that it probably is showing up in various ways.
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You will own nothing and like it shows up as "I can't afford nothing so fuck it."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 11:35 AM (g9W3m)

159 We've devolved to a low trust society. Even in small towns like the one in which I live.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2024 11:35 AM (7fElN)

160 134 113 A high trust society is necessary for a LOT of the things we take for granted. We've been slowly losing that over the past 50 years.

Born in early 70s, poverty level. I have NEVER seen this "Heritage America". Seriously.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 30, 2024 11:29 AM (CBkic)

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Both wifey and I were born in the early 60's -- both in poverty (me and my brothers to alcoholic parents and raised by a single mom who never earned more than $10,000/year and refused any welfare) -- and we along with most of our friends & schoolmates achieved the increasingly vanishing "American Dream."

And we most definitely ALWAYS saw that "Heritage America" ... until the 90's, when the Clintons first darkened the White House and nation, and really began the accelerated decline of the nation. *spit*

Posted by: ShainS -- New Trump Standard of Justice: Guilty Until Proven Guilty at May 30, 2024 11:35 AM (bu09+)

161 Those beyond the pale are, by definition, not in the tribe.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

It's not even a dog whistle at this point!! The White supremacists are just out in the open PREACHING their hate!!!

Posted by: Rev Al Sharpton at May 30, 2024 11:36 AM (JCZqz)

162 The demand my HVAC replacement represents was not above what it would have been, it was merely pulled forward. Inflation was a factor in that pull-forward.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Yes, exactly. We are doing the same type of thing; replaced HVAC, Windows, Deck, etc.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 30, 2024 11:36 AM (WXNFJ)

163 There were no parents overtly watching us but at the same time they were all watching us just in case we did something exceptionally stupid. Nobody was worried about a kid getting snatched off the street or abused. Wasn't even a topic. We were masters of the universe. Can't even imagine that happening today.


when I was very young, another doc my parents knew became famous for a horrible incident in Orlando. they were walking to their hotel room on an outside walkway (the older kind of motel things?) with their young son just behind them. they got to the room and he was gone. the doc went back to look, and his son was in another room, and had been beheaded. that quickly.

I think they made a TV movie about it. it was the horror story of our childhood, and parents started doing the "one in the front, one in the back" thing in public.

oh and the killer had just been imported by the US Gov from the Middle East and was criminally insane.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 30, 2024 11:36 AM (s3qiR)

164 The journos are modeling trust for us - trust in the regime, trust in the deep state, trust in the courts...

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

165 Yes, exactly. We are doing the same type of thing; replaced HVAC, Windows, Deck, etc.
Posted by: Tonypete at M

redid the pool because, jesus how much will it cost next year?

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 30, 2024 11:37 AM (CIS44)

166 Trump the buffoon falls for photoshopped Mike Tyson endorsement. Stroke his giant ego and you can get him to believe and do anything.

Posted by: Troll at May 30, 2024 11:37 AM (ISkoV)

167 "Those beyond the pale are, by definition, not in the tribe."

Obscene Irish.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:37 AM (Ectld)

168 The demand my HVAC replacement represents was not above what it would have been, it was merely pulled forward. Inflation was a factor in that pull-forward.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:34 AM (d04cU)

In this sense, there are two different kinds of people: Those who are trying to make sense of things, and acting in ways that would make economic sense, and those who haven't thought through what is going on around them, and are reacting to it.

People with disposable income (whether it is truly disposable or not) will make different kinds of purchases, based on which of those two tribes they belong to.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:38 AM (dGCAG)

169 Our Pride Month selections are just fabulous! Celebrate your non-binary pets with our wonderful catalogue of LGBTQIADNCGFY+-+!

Posted by: Bark box at May 30, 2024 11:38 AM (Y8lzz)

170 I trust in the people around me here on the Ace of Spades blog that we're going to make a difference! Stay the course! Keep fighting the good fight! I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees!

Posted by: Blue$b0y at May 30, 2024 11:38 AM (zViR+)

171 I suspect another thing that made Yugoslavia work in the 50s-70s is the liquidation of a large portion of their male population during and right after WWII.

They lost about a million men out of 15M or so at the start of the war.

Socialism works better when the government has freebies to hand out that were earned before the socialists came to power...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (ibTVg)

172 Keep fighting the good fight! I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
Posted by: Blue$b0y

It's not a bad living.
-Kamala Harris

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)

173 Arby's is the greatest offender when showing sammiches on TV that will disappoint when picked up. Also gyros and wraps.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 30, 2024 11:32 AM (V5eKu)

Hope Solo's Rollo looks better than Arby's sammichs in MeatSpace.

Probably tastes better too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (od9zZ)

174 I trust in the people around me here on the Ace of Spades blog

Well, except that CBD guy. He drinks cheap bourbon.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

175 I do not trust Ron DeSantis and the R congress will do the right thing about the gay flag burnout hate crime.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (aFNOf)

176 And the best part is for Pride Month we are donating proceeds to groups who sponsor the mutilation of children!

Posted by: Bark box at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (Y8lzz)

177 91
‘ If there was an opposition party they'd be turning the punitive powers of taxation on the left. ‘

That’s small potatoes.
If there were a serious opposition presidential candidate, they’d be talking about turning the punitive powers of the Justice Department on the left.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 11:40 AM (jbnUc)

178 In this sense, there are two different kinds of people: Those who are trying to make sense of things, and acting in ways that would make economic sense, and those who haven't thought through what is going on around them, and are reacting to it. ...
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:38 AM (dGCAG)
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It's also contextual, and the size of the transaction matters.

"I have five extra bucks right now, and those flowers my wife would like are on sale for five bucks right now. Might as well buy 'em because tomorrow they'll be more expensive and the five bucks will be worth even less" is a totally different category from "I'm looking at a five-figure expenditure and need to optimize it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:40 AM (d04cU)

179 C'mon - what costs are associated with going from a high-trust society to a low-trust society?

As long as we're getting rich!

Posted by: The Deep State! at May 30, 2024 11:40 AM (uxCna)

180 I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
Posted by: Blue$b0y at May 30, 2024 11:38 AM (zViR+)


I got to be VP by living on my knees!

*inappropriate laugh*

Posted by: Momala Harris at May 30, 2024 11:41 AM (OguvZ)

181 If there were a serious opposition presidential candidate, they’d be talking about turning the punitive powers of the Justice Department on the left.

Which just so happens to be among the recommendations in Schlichter's latest column.

https://tinyurl.com/nhdhy4z7

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:41 AM (xCA6C)

182 You will own nothing and like it shows up as "I can't afford nothing so fuck it."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 11:35 AM (g9W3m)

Yes, I think those are the poorer folk, who make purchases that look strange to those who have mortgages and prefer not to run out of toilet paper.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)

183 So, despite what the 4th Turning folks suggest, retirees are not going to take a cut to save the country.

Everyone wants someone else to take the first hit.

Here's my thought...

1. Admit that everything is fucked up and that government is the reason it's fucked up.
2. Go through and make sure that not one single penny is being paid to non-citizens except as compensation for a necessary goo/service which cannot be otherwise obtained.
3. Get rid of every government agency not specifically named in the Constitution. Get rid of any laws/regulations associated therewith.
4. Stop government pensions. 401k (or equivalent) like the rest of us.
5. Stop foreign aid. That includes funding the security of Europe.

Now come talk to me about SS/Medicare.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2024 11:41 AM (U7wke)

184 People with disposable income (whether it is truly disposable or not) will make different kinds of purchases, based on which of those two tribes they belong to.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:38 AM (dGCAG)

Why, yes, I recently ordered some goods from MidwayUSA that were not in my normal budget.

Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:41 AM (nCaYE)

185 I do not trust anyone that puts carrots in their chili or believes.45 ACP is a good carry round.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:41 AM (aFNOf)

186 He drinks cheap bourbon.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

I prefer to think of it as "inexpensive."

Although I have bought cheap bourbon and have regretted it.

Yes, I am looking at you, McKenna.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (d9fT1)

187 176 I do not trust Ron DeSantis and the R congress will do the right thing about the gay flag burnout hate crime.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 11:39 AM (aFNOf)

"We swear on a stack of Heather Has Two Mommies that we will find the person who did this! ...Did you do this?"

"No."

"What about you?"

"Nah, dude."

"Welp. I got nothing. "

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (VoAdT)

188 If there were a serious opposition presidential candidate, they’d be talking about turning the punitive powers of the Justice Department on the left.

Oh...its across the board.

The right exists in opposition to the government. Which somewhat limits the left's ability to harm us through the government.

But the left? The left *needs* the government funding and supporting it. Turning the same weapons on them that they turn on us would likely end the current incarnation of the left and in a few years. It really is one of those things that could cause the end of Soviet America.

But it would require courage and competence from "rightwing" elected officials.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (ibTVg)

189 Make sure to put the AOSHQ logo on your plate carrier and vehicle when the burning times come.

We should also have challenge and pass words. I recommend "Manhattan" and "shaken."

Posted by: PabloD at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (qojY3)

190 The "blob" as you put it can be laid at the feet of the Congress. They spent a few decades signing enabling acts to shirk their responsibility and skim off the top while outsourcing their own jobs to the executive.

Goodbye balance of power.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The blob grows as public demand for goodies, regulation, etc. grow. It is society rather than Congress which is at fault. Because of the separated powers, Congress, unlike a parliamentary system, does not have the effective power to remove officials like Mayorkas that simply ignore statutes. In a similar way, Congress has effectively ruled out using its primary power of funding because the public and political donors want their goodies.

If you want to get into collective action problems, Congress has to use a possible unfaithful agent bound to the executive in order to carry out whatever it wishes. As a result, the blob acts to unify governing impulses through organizations like parties and bureaucracies to circumvent constitutional limitations.

The founders by and large publicly eschewed political parties but they formed quickly in the new republic because collective action problems in legislating.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (PkS4e)

191 Things to try in a resturant:

1) ask for a order of world peace

2) tell them you would like a burger exactly like the one in the picture

Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

192 The last time I was at Arby's they tried to charge me 75 cents for an extra tarter sauce, I told them to stuff it.

Also, the group that runs Arbys bought Buffalo Wild Wings and proceeded to destroy it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 30, 2024 11:43 AM (XV/Pl)

193 It's also contextual, and the size of the transaction matters.

"I have five extra bucks right now, and those flowers my wife would like are on sale for five bucks right now. Might as well buy 'em because tomorrow they'll be more expensive and the five bucks will be worth even less" is a totally different category from "I'm looking at a five-figure expenditure and need to optimize it."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:40 AM (d04cU)

Yes, but I bet there aren't that many five buck flowers for my wife purchases, and many more five buck energy drinks purchases.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:43 AM (dGCAG)

194 True...but 9mm? Really? Isn't that beyond the pale?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:19 AM (d9fT1)


Has anyone considered quoting 1 Corinthians 13:11 to them?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2024 11:43 AM (U7wke)

195 Way, Way Downriver

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Missed you last thread.

Still praying for you, brother.

Posted by: Moron Robbie rejects the HQ gay hate and hopes they speak out against their abusers at May 30, 2024 11:44 AM (wfbHH)

196 Speaking of low trust - News from our town yesterday:

Local butthead pulls a knife in the Waffle House and two employees are hurt in the scuffle. Runs out with cops giving chase and ducks into the local Red Roof Inn. Somehow gets into the attic of said establishment and the LEOs grab him there. Apparently, knucklehead has balance issues as he fell down (repeatedly) on the way to the patrol car. His injuries made me laugh.

I honestly don't know how he escaped from the WH with his life. The place isn't dangerous and wide latitude regarding behavior is given but step over the line and the waitressi will beat your ass.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 30, 2024 11:44 AM (WXNFJ)

197 “We’re facing an unfunded, $1 trillion mandate that carries enormous consequences for the American consumer.” At least that’s what Chris Spear, American Trucking Associations President and CEO has to say about one D.C. diktat coming down from on high in particular, and that is the one mandating that the American trucking industry bend to EPA rules requiring all electric fleets and production lines.

Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:44 AM (RHGPo)

198 Ace of Spades HQ is not just a smart military blog, but my tribe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2024 11:45 AM (u82oZ)

199 I recommend "Manhattan" and "shaken."

Posted by: PabloD at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (qojY3)

You disgust me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 30, 2024 11:45 AM (d9fT1)

200 The blob grows as public demand for goodies, regulation, etc. grow. It is society rather than Congress which is at fault. Because of the separated powers, Congress, unlike a parliamentary system, does not have the effective power to remove officials like Mayorkas that simply ignore statutes. In a similar way, Congress has effectively ruled out using its primary power of funding because the public and political donors want their goodies. ...
Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:42 AM (PkS4e)
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This will always be true, no matter what and no matter in what system.

It is the duty of the institution to do the right thing and to maintain balance of power. It failed to do so, through its own greed and cowardice. Yes, absent demand for free stuff and special treatment, the issue would never have come up. But those things will *always* come up. The quest to get something for nothing is a primal thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:45 AM (d04cU)

201 2) If you believe immigrants will bring the political culture and views they had back home with them here you are racist.

I did wonder what left-wing Jews were thinking when they supported mass immigration and opposed Trump's so-called "Muslim ban".

You import people from the most anti-Semitic places on the planet, and what do you think is going to happen?

Posted by: The Deep State! at May 30, 2024 11:46 AM (uxCna)

202 How is it *they* are expected to eat the costs for all these increases?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 30, 2024 11:21 AM (cCVOS)


Assuming Target/Walmart lower food prices a bit, they're doing it because they expect Uncle Sugar to toss them some lettuce. They aren't planning on eating the cost, they're just expecting it to be a bit more obscure that we are.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2024 11:46 AM (U7wke)

203 37 Does this place count as a tribe?
Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM (nCaYE)


Merriam-Webster says YES!

horde (noun) :
1a: a political subdivision of central Asian nomads
1b: a people or tribe of nomadic life

Posted by: Half Dozen at May 30, 2024 11:46 AM (eHovo)

204 I watch a lot of cop channels on YT. Some point out outrageous behavior by cops and others outrageous behavior by citizens. One thing I have noticed is that far too many cops are deathly afraid of cameras. And many cops have little to no understanding of the constitution, law and the confines and limits to their lawful authority. I don't know if this is because more cops are getting more brazen in their interactions with citizens or because we are simply recording more and more such terrible interactions indicating this awful behavior has always been the case. But trust in government, and their minions ought to be relatively low at this point.

Posted by: wareagle82 at May 30, 2024 11:47 AM (mQxC9)

205
When I was in grammar school we lived in a small community not far from NYC. We walked to school, it was only a couple blocks away despite it being uphill both ways. . . .

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2024


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My school days, all of them, were spent in the French Quarter -- which until the early '70s was much more of a neighborhood than it was the theme park it's become today. My brother and I walked to grammar school, about three blocks, and I caught the bus to junior high and high school. When I was twelve, my mother let me go downtown by myself to the library and to shop (model kits and books). And since she worked a lot of nights, she started leaving us without a babysitter around that same time, knowing we'd behave ourselves. (The worst thing we ever did was stay up to watch Johnny Carson.)

Now? Mom would be hauled away by Social Services and my brother and I would bein foster care. Brrrr.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 11:48 AM (J2vNu)

206 Because of the separated powers, Congress, unlike a parliamentary system, does not have the effective power to remove officials like Mayorkas that simply ignore statutes

Disagree.

Wait until the next funding bill comes up for a vote. Tell Biden their will be *no* funding of HUD or DoE or whatever department he has his cronies care about until Mayorkas is gone.

Vote for funding for the other departments and...go home.

Congress would easily win this fight...if it wanted to

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:48 AM (ibTVg)

207 "people or tribe of nomadic life"

Does moving from the couch to the back porch count?

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:48 AM (Ectld)

208 I've accepted that destroying wealth and making young people question the timing or viability of starting a family or having more than one child is part of the population control plan.

Posted by: Moron Robbie rejects the HQ gay hate and hopes they speak out against their abusers at May 30, 2024 11:48 AM (wfbHH)

209 I hear thunder grumbling. I guess I won't be walking to the library on my lunch hour.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 11:49 AM (J2vNu)

210 20 Biden Campaign Co-Chair: Americans Have Too Many ‘Struggles’ Right Now to Understand Biden’s Incredible Achievements
Posted by: SMOD
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Because he hasn't done anything for people, only blow smoke up their asses about his accomplishments. From POLITICO today -

ZOOMING OUT: A pretty clear encapsulation of the campaign’s problem is a recent focus group of Black voters done by the group BlackPAC in North Carolina. The participants — middle-class and low-propensity voters — had all voted for Biden in 2020 but were anticipating staying home or voting third party this time around.

At the root of their dissatisfaction was a feeling that the Biden administration had not made good on any of his policy promises to Black Americans, said ADRIANNE SHROPSHIRE, the executive director of BlackPAC. But what was most alarming to Shropshire was that the voters said they weren’t hearing anything about Biden’s record.

“When you tell people, ‘here’s what the Biden administration has done, particularly related to issues the Black communities care about,’ people are really surprised. They say, ‘I can't believe that I did not know this,’” Shropshire said, describing the results of the focus group.

Posted by: Gref at May 30, 2024 11:49 AM (5fDan)

211 If you believe immigrants will bring the political culture and views they had back home with them here you are racist.
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Okay

Posted by: Moron Robbie rejects the HQ gay hate and hopes they speak out against their abusers at May 30, 2024 11:49 AM (wfbHH)

212 Congress would easily win this fight...if it wanted to
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:48 AM (ibTVg)

Four very important words at the end there.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:49 AM (dGCAG)

213 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:49 AM (rdISq)

214 @Moron Robbie

We are about to be overrun by an unstoppable horde of asians. It's a straight numbers game.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (Ectld)

215 "I don't know what President Biden can do about that but I remember him talking about how it is not inflation so much as it is companies taking advantage of former inflation and just keeping their prices high." -Average DU Intellect


That's... WOW... that's impressive.

KEEPING PRICES HIGH!!! NOW THAT INFLATION IS DOWN!!!

We need the "That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!!!" meme.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (N1DT3)

216 Not there yet.

OTOH a 'Region" PTO lady just ripped off 2 schools worth of charity.

Posted by: DaveA at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (PMJuY)

217 "Does this place count as a tribe?"

More like a troupe of howler monkeys...

Posted by: PabloD at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (qojY3)

218 Well

About to go see myDad in hospital. Now hearing phrases like 'congestive heart failure.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (h8CK2)

219 The blob grows as public demand for goodies, regulation, etc. grow. It is society rather than Congress which is at fault. Because of the separated powers, Congress, unlike a parliamentary system, does not have the effective power to remove officials like Mayorkas that simply ignore statutes. In a similar way, Congress has effectively ruled out using its primary power of funding because the public and political donors want their goodies."

As we move into the future, I see two possible paths (and this may take decades) Either an Imperial System, where the leader can use extrajudicial methods to correct imbalances without any oversight, or a breakup into smaller entities and a reformation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (S6gqv)

220 About to go see myDad in hospital. Now hearing phrases like 'congestive heart failure.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (h8CK2)

Prayers for you all

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2024 11:51 AM (Akjoo)

221 before I make any decision, I first check in with Nikki Haley
Posted by: no count at May 30, 2024 11:49 AM (us2H3)

And before Nikki makes any decision, she checks with her pimp.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:51 AM (dGCAG)

222
I did wonder what left-wing Jews were thinking when they supported mass immigration and opposed Trump's so-called "Muslim ban".


The leftwing Jews I know believe:

Muslim anti-semitism is a myth. That Muslims are mad at imperialist western countries and imperialist Jews in Israel.

Since these American/European Jews are not in Israel and they vote for the "good", "anti-imperialist" leftwing parties, the Muslim immigrants will be their allies...since they are both oppressed groups.

And when you try to explain to them that *no other* part of the leftwing victim stack sees western Jews as anything other then bigger white devils they will not listen to you...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2024 11:51 AM (ibTVg)

223 I have never had the tragic fortune of living in a place that has been "fixed" by Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 30, 2024 11:52 AM (cf/0E)

224 BabylonBee: Kangaroos Ask People To Stop Unfairly Comparing Them To U.S. Justice System

Posted by: SMOD at May 30, 2024 11:52 AM (RHGPo)

225 And many cops have little to no understanding of the constitution, law and the confines and limits to their lawful authority.

Twenty-five years ago, you had to be a graduate of a four-year college or have equivalent military experience to be a Portland cop.

Now, you only have to have a GED, since it is so difficult to recruit cops in Portland.

That makes a difference.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 30, 2024 11:52 AM (uxCna)

226 We are about to be overrun by an unstoppable horde of asians. It's a straight numbers game.

-

Racist!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - did anyone ever find one tangible benefit for the male in modern marriage? at May 30, 2024 11:52 AM (wfbHH)

227 Salty I agree 👍

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:53 AM (rdISq)

228 This will always be true, no matter what and no matter in what system.

It is the duty of the institution to do the right thing and to maintain balance of power. It failed to do so, through its own greed and cowardice. Yes, absent demand for free stuff and special treatment, the issue would never have come up. But those things will *always* come up. The quest to get something for nothing is a primal thing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

No disagreement about humans wanting something for nothing. But quite simply, the design of our political system makes it virtually impossible to reform without massive majorities concurrent with control of the executive and courts while parliamentary systems where the legislature and the executive are blended can make austerity cuts much easier plus hold ministers more accountable than the US system. Sweden for example in the 90s, Austria in the 20's, West Germany until unification, etc.

In America, concurrent majorities only existed during the Reconstruction Era and FDR's reign of error. For that reason, we are still running FDR's gubmint model with only minor alterations but with the massive LBJ/Nixon era extensions to gubmint power and spending.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:53 AM (PkS4e)

229 You left out "I used to trust the medical profession and professionals."

Exposing all of these people as untrustworthy frauds was the single biggest contribution Donald Trump has made for this country.

Posted by: JTSmith at May 30, 2024 11:53 AM (FxdZx)

230 According to Boy928, I have terminal Boomer Optimism. I can foresee disaster and am preparing for the worst but, deep down in my heart of hearts I still believe the Republic can be saved with the right ideas and the right leaders. Through out my life, it always has been.

Boy says that I should accept that the Republic is already dead and I should just be planning to survive and shape what comes after.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 30, 2024 11:53 AM (aD39U)

231 Don't you mean "Lacist!"?

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:53 AM (Ectld)

232 156
‘ Posted by: BurtTC’
It may be both but it HAS to be B.
This is suicidal stupidity on the level of sawing off the branch that they’re standing on. It’s like they’re gambling that they’re immune to gravity.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

233 This is suicidal stupidity on the level of sawing off the branch that they’re standing on. It’s like they’re gambling that they’re immune to gravity.

Gravity is a racist construction.

Posted by: Some lefty academic at May 30, 2024 11:54 AM (ibTVg)

234 I think it's insane that anyone trusts the government.

How does $35 trillion in debt get paid back?

I mean, the absolute best, tip-top best, case scenario is "default and massive decades-long inflation."

But sure, student loan forgiveness and a 8% COLA is gonna make things alright.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 30, 2024 11:54 AM (g9W3m)

235 Lacist Ractose Intorolence!

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:54 AM (h8CK2)

236 Twenty-five years ago, you had to be a graduate of a four-year college or have equivalent military experience to be a Portland cop.

Now, you only have to have a GED, since it is so difficult to recruit cops in Portland.

That makes a difference.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 30, 2024


***
In my Golden High School Encyclopedia (ca. 1964), the entry for the FBI said that applicants had to have either a law or accounting degree. Is either of those even remotely true now?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM (J2vNu)

237 Does this place count as a tribe?
Posted by: RI Red



Please no loincloths.
Please no loincloths.

Posted by: DaveA at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM (PMJuY)

238 Good luck Anna

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM (rdISq)

239 228 And many cops have little to no understanding of the constitution, law and the confines and limits to their lawful authority.

Twenty-five years ago, you had to be a graduate of a four-year college or have equivalent military experience to be a Portland cop.

Now, you only have to have a GED, since it is so difficult to recruit cops in Portland.

That makes a difference.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
=====
That is simply a return to the past practice. Cops having college educations was relatively rare until the massive increase in higher ed after the GI Bill and massive student subsidies came about.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM (PkS4e)

240 Muslim anti-semitism is a myth. That Muslims are mad at imperialist western countries and imperialist Jews in Israel.

I can't find the survey now, but something like 96% of Somalis are antisemities.

This is particularly impressive, considering that there are no Jews in Somalia.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM (uxCna)

241 I trust in the Lord, all others pay cash

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM (8Cfeh)

242 This is exciting--NottheBee is reporting that Sotomayor authored a unanimous opinion overturning the dismissal of the NRA's suit against New York for pressuring banks to stop doing business with them. That can't bode well for the social media-related suit against Biden.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 30, 2024 11:56 AM (oCS0o)

243 ‘ Posted by: BurtTC’
It may be both but it HAS to be B.
This is suicidal stupidity on the level of sawing off the branch that they’re standing on. It’s like they’re gambling that they’re immune to gravity.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

It's a theory I'm willing to consider, that our so-called leaders are just that much dumber than they were just a few decades ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2024 11:56 AM (dGCAG)

244 I want a feather headress, no piercing please

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:56 AM (rdISq)

245 Thanks everyone.

Oi is this rough.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:56 AM (h8CK2)

246 JTSmith - I'm not sure Trump is the guy who deserves credit for exposing the medical establishment. Joe Rogan did more on that front than almost anybody, at least early on.

Posted by: PabloD at May 30, 2024 11:56 AM (qojY3)

247 @239 I am in awe, Anna.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 30, 2024 11:56 AM (Ectld)

248 Strong rain here. I hope the spot where I'm parked doesn't flood.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 11:57 AM (J2vNu)

249 241 Does this place count as a tribe?
Posted by: RI Red


Please no loincloths.
Please no loincloths.
Posted by: DaveA at May 30, 2024 11:55 AM


Be VERY careful what you wish for.

You might end up with a naked Moron Horde!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 30, 2024 11:57 AM (HlyYF)

250 222 The blob grows as public demand for goodies, regulation, etc. grow. It is society rather than Congress which is at fault. Because of the separated powers, Congress, unlike a parliamentary system, does not have the effective power to remove officials like Mayorkas that simply ignore statutes. In a similar way, Congress has effectively ruled out using its primary power of funding because the public and political donors want their goodies."

As we move into the future, I see two possible paths (and this may take decades) Either an Imperial System, where the leader can use extrajudicial methods to correct imbalances without any oversight, or a breakup into smaller entities and a reformation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (S6gqv)


The crooks and thieves have found and exploited every loophole in the Constitution. Beginning in 1787. Successive waves of crooks and thieves have widened the loopholes ever since. And here we are, with the current crooks and thieves continuing to widen the loopholes, now beyond the strain the Constitution can take.

Posted by: Gref at May 30, 2024 11:57 AM (5fDan)

251 Muslims are out to destroy Jews, then everyone not Muslims, then the other Muslims are last to be hunted down

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 11:58 AM (rdISq)

252 Very, very well said, CBD. It hurts to agree with all of your points regarding what we've turned into, but agree with them I do.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 30, 2024 11:58 AM (mupln)

253 A Moron Horde on an Ottoman even

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:58 AM (h8CK2)

254 Insty has a headline that Trump is in negotiations for Musk to have a role in the administratration wrt border security and the economy. The link goes to WSJ, which I don't have.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 30, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)

255 This was Barrack Hussein 0bamas fundamental transformation.

Posted by: Fisht at May 30, 2024 11:59 AM (BHEHK)

256 182
‘ Schlichter's latest column.’

Kurt is clearly reading my mind. Let me know whether Kurt ever writes an article where the same candidate sends US Marshals to seize the banks through which federal employees are paid.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 11:59 AM (jbnUc)

257 234 According to Boy928, I have terminal Boomer Optimism. I can foresee disaster and am preparing for the worst but, deep down in my heart of hearts I still believe the Republic can be saved with the right ideas and the right leaders. Through out my life, it always has been.

Boy says that I should accept that the Republic is already dead and I should just be planning to survive and shape what comes after.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
=======
I don't have optimism that the fedgov can be fixed but individually one does what they can to soften the fall for loved ones. Depending on the individual, they might do so profitably regarding their local communities or even states.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:00 PM (PkS4e)

258 Who do we trust? Our friends. Our families. Our tribes.

Sound familiar
Why yes, yes it does.

Posted by: Eromero at May 30, 2024 12:00 PM (o2ZRX)

259 In America, concurrent majorities only existed during the Reconstruction Era and FDR's reign of error. For that reason, we are still running FDR's gubmint model with only minor alterations but with the massive LBJ/Nixon era extensions to gubmint power and spending.
Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 11:53 AM (PkS4e)
++++
We still have the concurrent majority. The former concurrent majority defended itself by converting then integrating its opposition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 12:00 PM (d04cU)

260 So sorry Anna.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 12:00 PM (RlXwv)

261 Moron Horde on an Ottoman even
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:58 AM (h8CK2)

Dammit, Anna! It’s almost lunchtime!

Posted by: RI Red at May 30, 2024 12:00 PM (nCaYE)

262 This was Barrack Hussein 0bamas fundamental transformation.
Posted by: Fisht at May 30, 2024


***
I told everybody I knew, both in '08 and '12, that you couldn't trust that lying jugeared f**k, but did they listen? Not enough, it appears.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 12:01 PM (J2vNu)

263 In England the working class called them Thatcher's Children. It was not a compliment. We are living with Obama's Children.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2024 12:02 PM (RlXwv)

264 You'd be shocked at how many awful cops in my department. Pulling over cars and demanding to search the vehicle without a warrant. We toss a ton of these because they're so ridiculous and unconstitutional.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 30, 2024 12:03 PM (jnnXY)

265 Best wishes Anna Puma.

DadA lived more than a decade after his CHF diagnosis.

Posted by: DaveA at May 30, 2024 12:04 PM (PMJuY)

266 In my Golden High School Encyclopedia (ca. 1964), the entry for the FBI said that applicants had to have either a law or accounting degree. Is either of those even remotely true now?


Nope. 4-year degree for the Special Agent 1811 job is still required, but numerous academic and life experience backgrounds are now the norm. Intel back ground, military, foreign language speaker, STEM, etc.

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at May 30, 2024 12:04 PM (pgwxJ)

267 Bath house towel boi is back

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 12:04 PM (h8CK2)

268 I use believe, all aliens were smarter than us.
Not any more. Any dumb fuck could just be a passenger in a smart space ship.

Hey stupid. Land here. X

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 30, 2024 12:05 PM (J8LnB)

269 Anna, prayers for you and your father.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 30, 2024 12:05 PM (jnnXY)

270 I trust the Hord

I trust Mrs VIA

I trust our son


I trust Donald Trump to love this country, and do his best to-preserve and improve it for all Americans.

I trust our local Police force with specific exceptions.

And I place my faith and trust in God.

I tend to give organized Churches the side-eye at this point.

I don't trust the GOP, nor the Boy Scouts of America, and have limited trust in educators.

I could go on....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 30, 2024 12:06 PM (a1415)

271 I trust that Joe has crapped himself at least twice today.

Posted by: wth at May 30, 2024 12:06 PM (v0R5T)

272
The Big Mac or double Mac's beef patty is just a little bit bigger than their old Dollar Burger. No way does it touch either side of the bun. However, the picture has it extending out past the bun - all sides.
Posted by: Braenyard


Where's the BEEF?

https://youtu.be/u0aKKFybRNM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2024 12:06 PM (63Dwl)

273 I trust that Ted Cruz felt content after awarding the Jan 6 cops their medals of honor.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 12:06 PM (aFNOf)

274 I trust that Joe has crapped himself at least twice today.
Posted by: wth

twice before noon? man hes a real go getter today.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 30, 2024 12:06 PM (CIS44)

275 You'd be shocked at how many awful cops in my department.

Second City Cop makes the same complaint about Chicago, and how low the recruiting standards have gotten.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 30, 2024 12:07 PM (uxCna)

276 As we move into the future, I see two possible paths (and this may take decades) Either an Imperial System, where the leader can use extrajudicial methods to correct imbalances without any oversight, or a breakup into smaller entities and a reformation.

Posted by: Tom Servo
=====
Politics is downstream from society. The society that created the US Constitution no longer exists. So due to the demands of society, our government no longer pays much attention to the Constitution nor fidelity to the tenets of limited powers. That goes for courts, Congress, the bureaucracy, the executive, AND the American people.

So, we have adopted the unwritten constitutional amendments in order to do things prohibited directly by the US Constitution. We have adopted the British system of an unwritten Constitution in order to keep the form of the federal government intact, if not the intention. Form no longer dictates function.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:07 PM (PkS4e)

277 >>>Second City Cop makes the same complaint about Chicago, and how low the recruiting standards have gotten.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


Lots of millennial who think they know everything the second they get out of the academy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 30, 2024 12:09 PM (jnnXY)

278 I trust that Joe has crapped himself at least twice today.
Posted by: wth

twice before noon? man hes a real go getter today.
Posted by: BruceWayne
.......

Had an omelette instead oatmeal. Big mistake.

Posted by: wth at May 30, 2024 12:10 PM (v0R5T)

279 You'd be shocked at how many awful cops in my department.

One of the problems in Portland is that good cops get hired by the Portland Police Bureau, get a few years experience, and then lateral to a suburban police department.

It's a sorting mechanism.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 30, 2024 12:10 PM (uxCna)

280 Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:07 PM (PkS4e)

Whig — I always appreciate your insightful comments

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 30, 2024 12:10 PM (EJ1D2)

281 I trust that a teacher that carries a firearm legally in the classroom will eventually either shoot themselves or a conservative student.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 12:11 PM (aFNOf)

282 221
‘ About to go see myDad in hospital’

I hope it ends up being better than it sounded. I’ll be thinking of you, Anna Puma.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 30, 2024 12:11 PM (jbnUc)

283 We still have the concurrent majority. The former concurrent majority defended itself by converting then integrating its opposition.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
--------
Agree to disagree. The uniparty is deeply conservative (traditional sense) in that it seeks to thwart change in how fedgov operates but it lacks the power itself to change to a new paradigm unlike the Reconstruction or Depression era federal governments. That part, at least, was consistent with what the Founders wanted--very little ability to change the original Constitution formally.

So, what has happened is that like Bagehot describes the unwritten British Constitution at its time, what the formal description of Fed Gov differs greatly from how Fed Gov actually operates. Parkinson's Iron Law of bureaucracy has essentially destroyed the written Constitution and political parties have done the rest. That is why the Fedgov is so worried about stomping on disaffected citizens within---it threatens the destruction of the Fedgov paradigm which has operated since the FDR days.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:15 PM (PkS4e)

284 Nope. Sorry. I never trusted a single government employee. I grew up in south Jersey and it was understood that anyone connected to the government -- federal down to town council -- was dirty in one way or another. It was fine to trust your neighbors and the people who worked in local businesses, but government? Never.

The situation here in Nebraska seems to be better. There have been a few incidents, but nothing compared to south Jersey.

Posted by: Livia Drusilla at May 30, 2024 12:15 PM (zbGp6)

285 Wyatt you know most countries the cop pulls you over looking for a bribe, and if you don't you get hauled in for a bogus reason to see a judge who wants a bigger bribe

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2024 12:15 PM (rdISq)

286 287 I trust that a teacher that carries a firearm legally in the classroom will eventually either shoot themselves or a conservative student.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 30, 2024 12:11 PM (aFNOf)

"He started saying nice things about Clarence Thomas so i discharged my firearm until i felt the threat was ended."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2024 12:15 PM (VoAdT)

287 I lost trust when they wanted to ship my young ass 6000 miles away to kill commies when there were plenty 90 miles south of Key West.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 30, 2024 12:16 PM (MeG8a)

288 zzzzz zzzzzz zzzzzzz

Posted by: Braenyard at May 30, 2024 12:16 PM (0ZYe2)

289 I lost trust when they wanted to ship my young ass 6000 miles away to kill commies when there were plenty 90 miles south of Key West.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at

or within the borders

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 30, 2024 12:16 PM (CIS44)

290 American Exceptionalism is many things, but one of the most profound differences was the shared commitment to our country and its greatness

———-

I’m pretty sure that we are under God’s judgment. Years of demanding Him to bless us while also shooting a middle finger at Him policy-wise.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 30, 2024 12:16 PM (8YDBV)

291 286 Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:07 PM (PkS4e)

Whig — I always appreciate your insightful comments
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
------
Thanks. Unfortunately, I am a poor communicator as I struggle to fix my thoughts quickly to fit gray box limits and often grammar and structure suffers. Makes me opaque and too fiddly in sentence structures at times.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:17 PM (PkS4e)

292 noooooood

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 30, 2024 12:17 PM (CIS44)

293 Noodus Ace (no title yet)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 30, 2024 12:17 PM (J2vNu)

294 I used to trust religious institutions to be trying, albeit imperfectly, to ascertain and follow God's will. Watching them all align with our enemies over the last 4 years shattered that completely.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at May 30, 2024 12:17 PM (Ij2uN)

295 221 Well

About to go see myDad in hospital. Now hearing phrases like 'congestive heart failure.'
Posted by: Anna Puma
====
Prayers sent.

Posted by: whig at May 30, 2024 12:19 PM (PkS4e)

296 Wyatt you know most countries the cop pulls you over looking for a bribe, and if you don't you get hauled in for a bogus reason to see a judge who wants a bigger bribe
Posted by: Skip

Absolutely. When stationed in Southern Italy, I would keep cartons of Marlboros and American whiskey in my trunk. I would get pulled over for no reason by either Carabinieri or Polizia and played the game as the officers went away happy with their new smokes and booze. Price of business.

Posted by: Cheri at May 30, 2024 12:20 PM (oiNtH)

297 Some proudly leave the price sticker on coffins in some of the cheaper countries.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 30, 2024 12:27 PM (J8LnB)

298 221 Well
About to go see myDad in hospital. Now hearing phrases like 'congestive heart failure.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2024 11:50 AM (h8CK2)


My sincere prayers for you and your, Anna. I know exactly how you feel at this difficult time.

Posted by: goozer at May 30, 2024 12:32 PM (aWAkn)

299
We should also have challenge and pass words. I recommend "Manhattan" and "shaken."
Posted by: PabloD


Challenge: Crocks are for fags
Response: Not according to garrett

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 30, 2024 12:33 PM (MsrgL)

300 116
Yugoslavia

Posted by: Military Moron at May 30, 2024 11:25 AM (JCZqz)
----
The difference to the US is that those states were composed of 'tribes', Serbs, Croats, etc. Our States are on the whole similar in cross-section if not in numbers. Thus we may have more Latinos in Florida compared to Maine but both have Latinos.

Posted by: Ciampino - The rocks don't care if you show up late! at May 30, 2024 12:49 PM (qfLjt)

301 My ancestors, both sides, abandoned a perfectly good little empire and came here to never have to be part of a God damned tribe again.

If tribalism is what you aspire to, there is something really dark wrong with you, way down deep where your soul should be.

And if you think your 'religion' goes along with this tribal shit, you're even sicker. It's a rock, and you've crawled under it.
You can't have thought this over before claiming it, but then again thinking things over is no longer what we do here.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 30, 2024 12:57 PM (zdLoL)

302 I really don't think so. The power-mad elites were banking on trust remaining in place. All of their schemes depend on it. It's why, despite their abject failure to comprehend the causes of current conditions, the WEF is so fixated on trust restoration.

They *need* trust restoration in order to keep their game running.


Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 30, 2024 11:10 AM

Not really. No one -- at least no ordinary person -- has trusted the WEF for years. That has not stopped them from infiltrating every institution in the world and enacting all their policies, with local politicians and elites forcing them on the local population.

The WEF does not need anyone outside of positions of power to trust it. Power and influence in institutions which enact policies is all they need. And they have it.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 30, 2024 01:13 PM (P5BPp)

303 The Civil War schism never healed

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 30, 2024 01:43 PM (qtABE)

304 CBD, try speaking English. You started off with a word I have never seen in any language and you kept using it. What is this t-r-u-s-t thing?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 30, 2024 02:58 PM (8sMut)

305 "Trust. I don't have it any more."
Yeah.
I can't trust them any more.
But they can't trust me any more either...
FJB

Posted by: jbspry at May 30, 2024 05:16 PM (t7jw5)

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