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The Torricelli Option Is On the Table: Leftwing Bloomberg Begins Polling Trump v. Kamala Harris, Anticipating a Biden Departure

Hilarious.

Obviously, Trump thumps Kumala.

But why even ask? What are they hearing?

One number I don't like is the tie in Nevada (between Trump and Biden, not Kumala). They're tied at 47%-- but then Trump goes out to a five point lead when RFKJr. and "others" are included. Trump is definitely losing some of his blue-collar white former-Democrat voters to RFKJr.

MXMNews:

Former President Donald Trump is leading Joe Biden in key battleground states, according to the latest Bloomberg/Morning Consult poll. Voters overwhelmingly trust Trump to handle the economy and immigration over Biden.

Key Details:

Trump leads Biden in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, and North Carolina.

Top voter issues: economy (35%) and immigration (14%).

Voters trust Trump more on the economy (50% vs. 37%) and immigration (51% vs. 34%).

Reminder:

I don't expect that publicizing this will win back Trump-to-RFKJr. voters, because they're Democrats and probably don't like the Tea Party.

Jim Geraghty considers Biden's line that #ThePollsAreSkewed and wonders: But if they're not skewed...?

Biden's up by a percentage point in Michigan, 46 percent to 45 percent. Perhaps the best news for the president is that this survey shows a tie in Nevada, where previous polling has had Trump ahead, sometimes by a wide margin.

But at the very end of the article, it reads, "The statistical margin of error is plus or minus 1 percentage point across the seven states; 3 percentage points in Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania; 4 percentage points in Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin, and 5 percentage points in Nevada."

Ah. So they barely called any Nevada voters, and the MOE Is large.

He recaps the Biden spin that the polls are skewed, and the claim that there's a Secret Surge for Scranton Joe that the media are hiding.


Does that sound right to you? That the press doesn't want to write about a Democratic incumbent having momentum against Donald Trump?

Now, both nationally and in swing states, there are a lot of pollsters in business. Indisputably, some are better than others. And you can definitely find outliers that have Biden in better shape here and there.

But every pollster has Biden's job-approval rating in lousy shape. This morning, the new national Reuters-Ipsos poll "showed just 36 percent of Americans approve of Biden's job performance as president, down from 38 percent in April. It was a return to the lowest approval rating of his presidency, last seen in July 2022."

If only a bit more than a third of Americans think Biden is doing a good job, would you expect him to have a lot of momentum in the presidential race? Yes, Trump is a deeply flawed candidate, but he's also the most likely alternative.

Ezra Klein is among those on the left side of the aisle trying to sound the alarm for the Biden campaign: "To the extent polls have been wrong in recent presidential elections, they've been wrong because they've been biased toward Democrats. Trump ran stronger in 2016 and 2020 than polls predicted."

Is Biden campaigning like a guy who's well ahead? Maybe Biden's latest round of race demagoguery is standard-issue for the man who told African Americans that Mitt Romney was going to put them back in chains. Does cutting off aid to Israel seem like the kind of move you make when everything's going well? Does the administration's obsession with forgiving student-loan debt suggest confidence in the likely turnout among young voters?


I know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:25 PM




Comments

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1 Obviously, Trump thumps Kumala.


You're just not setting her up for success.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 22, 2024 02:26 PM (OYxA4)

2 First?

Posted by: Henry O at May 22, 2024 02:26 PM (X5Mi4)

3 OK, second.

Posted by: Henry O at May 22, 2024 02:26 PM (X5Mi4)

4 Obviously, Trump thumps Kumala.


Eww.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 02:27 PM (DRSnL)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

6 I think we need a centralization.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

7 Word is that Kamala has blown the competition in prior head-to-head matchups.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (nOjd9)

8 In before CBD fixes it

Posted by: Joe at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (5fDan)

9 Kumswala swallas kum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (Zz0t1)

10 I'm in the middle on this...

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (53oGX)

11 I like the Disney posts. Watching that homo companies stock Peter Pan off a cliff has been hugely entertaining. Knowing that failure is all they have to look forward to as they cater to hairy bearded fucks who provide nothing to society wearing dresses cosplaying as different genders. Keep going Disney, put more of those gender bending life failures front and center in front of kids, if you keep going it will be the new normal as your perverted minds want! It really will work keep going!

Posted by: Mr pink at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (mzH4n)

12 Oh please, please, please make it rain with Candidate ,La for President.

Posted by: lost in space at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (glxRK)

13 8 In before CBD fixes it

Posted by: Joe at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (5fDan)


Me too!

Posted by: Gref at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (5fDan)

14 I'm feeling very centered right now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (v6JzV)

15 Trump thumps Kumala

PHRASING!

Posted by: pookysgirl thought this place had rules at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (dtlDP)

16 Word is that Kamala has blown the competition in prior head-to-head matchups.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (nOjd9)

=====

"You forgot to say 'away' again."

- Michael Bluth

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (DRSnL)

17 I've heard Trump complete a non-remedial sentence.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (krQz2)

18 James Traficant > Bob Torricelli

Posted by: Bigger Asshole Than at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (R/m4+)

19
I've heard of Harris polls.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (krQz2)

20 I like this.

Posted by: Wes Anderson at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (PiwSw)

21 5 sisters means 5 extra chances!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

22 Obviously, Trump thumps Kumala.

I thought she worked on her knees...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

23 When I hear a new Marvel or Star Wars movie is coming out the first thing I think is “wow I sure as fuck all hope they put some dick tucking fucking Buffalo bill guy in it! WOW so stunning and brave”

Posted by: Mr pink at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (mzH4n)

24 I like the Disney posts. Watching that homo companies stock Peter Pan off a cliff has been hugely entertaining. Knowing that failure is all they have to look forward to as they cater to hairy bearded fucks who provide nothing to society wearing dresses cosplaying as different genders. Keep going Disney, put more of those gender bending life failures front and center in front of kids, if you keep going it will be the new normal as your perverted minds want! It really will work keep going!
Posted by: Mr pink at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (mzH4n)
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I don't mind the Disney posts, either. Politics, as they say, is downstream from culture. I think it's important for us to know what's going on in the broader culture.

Disney just happens to be the "face" of culture right now because its tendrils extend all throughout media.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (si1C0)

25 It's like a Who's Who of Who Farted?

I don't even know what that means!


Stick with the blogging gig.

Posted by: SeniorCenterBusDriver at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (FhXTo)

26 Um...something's different with the boxes...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

27 The Torricelli Option Is On the Table: Leftwing Bloomberg Begins Polling Trump v. Kamala Harris, Anticipating a Biden Departure
_______________

(sniffs the air) Is that desperation I detect?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 02:31 PM (YqDXo)

28 I still think Biden will be on the ticket, but it's interesting to speculate about scenarios in which he is not. If he isn't on the ticket, it has to look like it was his idea. Some heroic, selfless gesture in which he agrees to step down and pass the torch. The problem is that there really isn't anyone to pass it to. Popcorn!

Posted by: Frasier Crane at May 22, 2024 02:31 PM (bNf8H)

29 FARMING is EASY!!!

Posted by: Bloomburg at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

30 One number I don't like is the tie in Nevada (between Trump and Biden, not Kumala). They're tied at 47%-- but then Trump goes out to a five point lead when RFKJr. and "others" are included. Trump is definitely losing some of his blue-collar white former-Democrat voters to RFKJr.
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I think that should be "Biden is definitely losing ......'

Posted by: Ciampino - awkward to decide for Ds at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (qfLjt)

31 14 I'm feeling very centered right now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:29 PM (v6JzV)

This post is making Centrists of the lot of us...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (ynpvh)

32 Ah, f*ck it.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

33 8 In before CBD fixes it

Posted by: Joe at May 22, 2024 02:28 PM (5fDan)


Be thankful that Pixy doesn't fix it !

We'll be cast into the darkness.

AGAIN !

Posted by: JT at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (T4tVD)

34 Gross Speculation - UniParty will launch false flag physical attack on Creepy Pervy . Attackers will be kitted out as credibly as Jusse Smollet's. Uncle Joe will withdraw due to PTSD after dropping meatball sub. Democrats will 'come home' and vote for Kumdumpster out of sympathy.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (CiKCe)

35 It's always been on the table.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (JMAcK)

36 The worse the race gets for dems, the more likely they try again to assassinate Trump.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (lTGtQ)

37 This fits right in with some other articles I have read and some talk on AM radio from the other day.


They are going to wait and see how biden does at the debate and then they can replace him if they feel the need to. That's why the debate was scheduled before the convention.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (QNSds)

38 Another post from the Central Committee.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (YqDXo)

39 I guess the attempt to get leftists to sour on RFK will be taking off even more now. He really did say some crazy stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (XkYcA)

40 At this point, it's more likely Trump goes to jail and gets kicked off the ballot than Biden gets dumped.

The only way the Dems would run Harris while Biden is still kicking is if they could be assured of her winning without fortification against Nikki Haley.

Posted by: smeltwwrapper at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (mxEar)

41 21 5 sisters means 5 extra chances!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

My G-Grandma had 3 sisters marry 3 brothers...which is to say, her three sisters married 3 brothers from A DIFFERENT family. They weren't from Arkansas...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (ynpvh)

42 CIA Prevented Hunter's Hollywood Tax Sugar Daddy From Becoming Federal Witness: Whistleblower

"They could not pursue Hollywood lawyer Kevin Morris as a witness based on information received from the CIA."

In a Wednesday statement, the House Ways and Means Committee wrote that whistleblower documents indicate "In 2021, Assistant U.S. District Attorney Leslie Wolf told investigators they could not pursue Hollywood lawyer Kevin Morris as a witness based on information she received from the CIA. Investigators were never provided the same information that AUSA Wolf received."

"From whistleblower-provided evidence, we know Hunter Biden and his business associates made millions from selling access to Joe Biden and the quote ‘brand’ that is Joe Biden around the world. We know President Biden’s denials of any knowledge or involvement are not true," reads the letter. "We know the Department of Justice tried to undermine, stonewall, and block the investigation into the Biden family, including President Biden."

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (RHGPo)

43 FAAARTTT!!!

I'm steadily losing control over my bodily functions!

Just imagine what I'll be like in 2028!

Posted by: Fartin' Joe Biden! at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (uxCna)

44 Be thankful that Pixy doesn't fix it !

We'll be cast into the darkness.

AGAIN !
Posted by: JT

The return of the unihash?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (v6JzV)

45 29 FARMING is EASY!!!

Posted by: Bloomburg at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

It's how you make a small fortune...when you start with a large one.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:33 PM (ynpvh)

46 pmurTTrump

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 02:34 PM (tXFoB)

47 But why even ask? What are they hearing?
++++
Probably nothing. Stray voltage, is my guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:34 PM (d04cU)

48 And just like that, we're left justified.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

49 I enjoy your Disney posts. I like all of your pop culture posts. I follow that stuff on X as well.

Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 02:34 PM (PwgSL)

50 Do they ever poll about Biden's social unrest or nah bro?

Seems to me if Trump wa president and his voters were out blocking roads, beating Jews, and calling for their death, there might be a survey or two about it.

But probably nah bro.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (7aRnr)

51 >>>They are going to wait and see how biden does at the debate and then they can replace him if they feel the need to. That's why the debate was scheduled before the convention.

Spoiler alert: there won't be a debate.

Posted by: Max Power at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (q177U)

52 Leftwing Bloomberg Begins Polling Trump v. Kamala Harris, Anticipating a Biden Departure

WAIT JUST A MINUTE, BUSTER!

YOU THINK **I'M** GOING ANYWHERE?

THINK AGAIN!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (uxCna)

53 Trump thumps Kumala.

...

ace is coyly referring to the old headline about Trump thumping Hillary.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (z/ifB)

54 Trump is definitely losing some of his blue-collar white former-Democrat voters to RFKJr.

-

Unpossible!
Oh wait no that is possible and very predictable since RFK makes a lot of sense to those voters. He’s the only one ever addressing real issues like the corporatization of housing. Has Trump ever said anything about it?

Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (Y6Wgg)

55 One number I don't like is the tie in Nevada (between Trump and Biden, not Kumala). They're tied at 47%-- but then Trump goes out to a five point lead when RFKJr. and "others" are included. Trump is definitely losing some of his blue-collar white former-Democrat voters to RFKJr.
++++
Then how does he go out to a five-point lead when "others" are included? Or are the other "others" peeling off more Democrat votes than RFK pulls off Republican votes?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (d04cU)

56 The worse the race gets for dems, the more likely they try again to assassinate Trump.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:32 PM


I fear that is exactly what is going to happen. And I suspect that the doj would not have shed a tear if Trump had been in residence and got shot during last years raid at mar a largo.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (QNSds)

57 51 >>>They are going to wait and see how biden does at the debate and then they can replace him if they feel the need to. That's why the debate was scheduled before the convention.

Spoiler alert: there won't be a debate.

Posted by: Max Power at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (q177U)

Why? Are neither of them master debaters?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

58 Dr. David Morens, an Ex-NIAID senior scientific adviser to Dr. Mengele, American Edition Fauci, was coached by the NIH "FOIA lady" about how to avoid having to comply with "smoking gun" FOIA requests by using GMail, deleting emails, hand delivering documents, and the always go to method of destroying evidence. All in the name of "The Science" related to Covid.

Not spelled out in the NY Post article is who, besides Dr. David Morens, was also involved with stonewalling probes into Covid, but it should be noted he worked under Dr. Fauci from 1998 to 2022. So it would be premature to state that Dr. Fauci was involved with the creation of Covid, beyond funding the research, the subsequent coverup, and that he was the key figure in the death of millions. That would be just wrong as would thinking he should be hung after given Trump style show trial.

https://tinyurl.com/2s46bs4a

Posted by: lost in space at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (glxRK)

59 Someone commissioned this poll, and it wasn't Kumala.

Posted by: He's tan, rested and ready: Jimmah 2024 at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (wGerL)

60 I don't mind the Disney posts..... at all..... and I don't mind polling posts either........ just saying!

Posted by: Monica at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (y8w0W)

61 I enjoy your Disney posts. I like all of your pop culture posts. I follow that stuff on X as well.
Posted by: Biergood


Brownnose much?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (v6JzV)

62 I'm not seeing Kamala as viable. However, just voting Democrat is in millions and millions of people's DNA, as it's been put. Not so, of course, with Republicans.

My guess is that there might just be enough turned off Democrats that would not vote for Biden or Harris to lead to a narrow win for Trump.

But I also think if you plug virtually ANY Democrat at the top of the ticket other than one of these two, they would win.

Not easy to accomplish with the politics involved, but just watch them work.

Posted by: RM at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (urbih)

63 He recaps the Biden spin that the polls are skewed, and the claim that there's a Secret Surge for Scranton Joe that the media are hiding.
+++++
/me shrugs.

Public polling is dishonest in all cases. The purpose and goal of the dishonesty can vary.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (d04cU)

64 What happens when Trump is convicted by a jury of his oppressors in NY?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (7aRnr)

65 I know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:25 PM


Come on Marvel post!!

Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (h0Z+I)

66 >>I enjoy your Disney posts. I like all of your pop culture posts. I follow that stuff on X as well.
__
Same. Almost as enjoyable as the posts are the predictable whining comments about them.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (bNf8H)

67 64 What happens when Trump is convicted by a jury of his oppressors in NY?
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (7aRnr)

=========

The same thing that happened when he had his mugshot?

He raises a shit ton of money?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (cD1dp)

68 Or are the other "others" peeling off more Democrat votes than RFK pulls off Republican votes?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (d04cU)

Others includes more than RFK. There’s Jill stein,
Cornel west and a few others.

Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (Y6Wgg)

69 Wait until I start offering blow jobs for votes

Posted by: Kamala at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (cHOHf)

70 I enjoy your Disney posts. I like all of your pop culture posts. I follow that stuff on X as well.
Posted by: Biergood


Brownnose much?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I enjoy the posts.

Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (PwgSL)

71 JFK Jr has been on all sides of the Israel question, and by that I mean he has apparently been pro- con- and doubtful on all elements of the results of Oct 2023 in the last 12 months.

"thank goodness we have a well rounded politician, for once"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (D7oie)

72 63 He recaps the Biden spin that the polls are skewed, and the claim that there's a Secret Surge for Scranton Joe that the media are hiding.
+++++
/me shrugs.

Public polling is dishonest in all cases. The purpose and goal of the dishonesty can vary.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (d04cU)

========

I still haven't heard why I should trust public polling from anyone.

Or what incentive public polls have to be accurate.

They were horrendously wrong in 2020, and we're supposed to forget it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (cD1dp)

73 62 I'm not seeing Kamala as viable. However, just voting Democrat is in millions and millions of people's DNA, as it's been put. Not so, of course, with Republicans.

My guess is that there might just be enough turned off Democrats that would not vote for Biden or Harris to lead to a narrow win for Trump.

But I also think if you plug virtually ANY Democrat at the top of the ticket other than one of these two, they would win.

Not easy to accomplish with the politics involved, but just watch them work.

Posted by: RM at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (urbih)

I think Kumala is also familiar with the DNA of millions of people..

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (ynpvh)

74 I like the Disney posts.

Posted by: LazyGepid at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (oiYMF)

75 Does that sound right to you? That the press doesn't want to write about a Democratic incumbent having momentum against Donald Trump?

I think I've seen that line of delusional thinking on DU:

NYT inadvertently indicates that Biden is probably pulling away. The New York Times must have access to some data showing that Biden is starting to pull away (or perhaps that Trump is falling behind), because their Saturday online “front page” is working hard to drag Biden down. Here are the “above the fold” stories up right now:

Headline: In His Beloved Philadelphia, Biden Faces Wariness From Black Voters
Headline: Biden Flipped Georgia in 2020. This Year Could Be Different.
And the top Opinion piece is: Why the Manhattan Trial Is Probably Helping Trump

Sulzberger must be getting nervous….

Sunday morning now, and the top Opinion piece is from Ezra Klein, Seven Theories for Why Biden Is Losing (and What He Should Do About It). The NYT is definitely nervous that this race is turning into a boring and non-profitable landslide.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (JCZqz)

76 I know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.

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Especially those 30 something Karens. They hate polls. Which is why they can't get dates.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (dGCAG)

77 I'm still in the cynical camp of Trump pulling this off, but I have never seen an incumbent President polling this bad since I've been following politics. I also think there is a hidden Trump voter that always seem to come out near the end, so very plausible Trump's lead goes up.

but what most worries me is RFK being in the mix, I just think all those numbers basically need to be discarded. I bet he ends up with like 2-3% of the vote. I just wonder if its a lot of pissed off Democrats because they're mad at inflation making life so expensive that come back into the fold on Election Night.

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (2E+DV)

78 64 What happens when Trump is convicted by a jury of his oppressors in NY?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM (7aRnr)

He add another point or two over Joey.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (ynpvh)

79 Wait until I start offering blow jobs for votes
Posted by: Kamala at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (cHOHf)


Hey, this is MY corner, bitch.

Posted by: Madonna at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (nOjd9)

80 Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:35 PM (Y6Wgg)

Do you plan to vote for RFK is he's still in the race?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (XkYcA)

81 I don't think Joe is agreeable to stepping aside. This, according to his wife, who isn't agreeable to him stepping aside.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (Q4IgG)

82 Does anyone believe that Trump will win in PA and WI?

I don't. That makes VA and NV very important.

This is still an uphill electoral college map.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (d9fT1)

83 68 Others includes more than RFK. There’s Jill stein,
Cornel west and a few others.
Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (Y6Wgg)

========

Kanye ran in 2020. Remember that?

He got less than 68,000 votes.

Fucking Kanye, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (cD1dp)

84 Nearly 70% Of Gaza Aid From US-Built Pier Stolen

"They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels..."

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (RHGPo)

85 Don't these non-Biden voters remember the Mean Tweets and the fact that Trump said "p*ssy"?

Posted by: AWFLs at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (a3Q+t)

86 Others includes more than RFK. There’s Jill stein,
Cornel west and a few others.
Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (Y6Wgg)
++++
Right, that was my question. If Trump goes up 5 points with "others" then either RFK isn't pulling Trump voters or the non-RFK candidates pull more Biden voters than RFK pulls Trump voters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (d04cU)

87 Spoiler alert: there won't be a debate.

Posted by: Max Power


Given that we now know that the FBI was sent to his house with authorization to use lethal force and were told to not wear identifying clothing, I think we can safely assume that they hoped to either kill him, or to blame a gunfight on him.

With that as a talking point, I don't think they want a debate anymore.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (lTGtQ)

88
Hey, this is MY corner, bitch.
Posted by: Madonna at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (nOjd9)




Wait.....I called for a pussy strike damn it!!! That includes blowjobs!!!

Posted by: Jane Fonda at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

89 Brownnose much?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I enjoy the posts.
Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (PwgSL)

That's what SHE said.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (dGCAG)

90 76 I know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.

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Especially those 30 something Karens. They hate polls. Which is why they can't get dates.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (dGCAG)

They use stripper poles in their 30's? Sounds a bit old for that job.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

91 75 NYT inadvertently indicates that Biden is probably pulling away. The New York Times must have access to some data showing that Biden is starting to pull away (or perhaps that Trump is falling behind), because their Saturday online “front page” is working hard to drag Biden down. Here are the “above the fold” stories up right now:

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (JCZqz)

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Love it.

"The NYT is pushing negative stories about Biden, which means they have secret access to polls showing he's way far ahead."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (cD1dp)

92 I'm still in the cynical camp of Trump pulling this off,

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (2E+DV)

I'm glad I was sitting down for that shocker.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (53oGX)

93 I am not certain Trump thumps the 1st female pres, let alone the first female of color president.

Maybe I'm too cynical.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (Vvh2V)

94 ========

Kanye ran in 2020. Remember that?

He got less than 68,000 votes.

Fucking Kanye, man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (cD1dp)



That's because he changed his name to Ye and no one knew who he was.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

95 Has anyone compiled a list of celebrities who will be moving should Trump win?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (JLq/1)

96 93 I am not certain Trump thumps the 1st female pres, let alone the first female of color president.

Maybe I'm too cynical.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (Vvh2V)

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If woman was a real asset, Kamala would have actually won the presidential primary in 2020 instead of never rising about 3rd tier and then getting completely forgotten while being thumped by two old white men.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (cD1dp)

97 88
Hey, this is MY corner, bitch.
Posted by: Madonna at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (nOjd9)



Wait.....I called for a pussy strike damn it!!! That includes blowjobs!!!

Posted by: Jane Fonda at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

A mouth is a pussy? I'm confused. Does that make a fart-clam a pussy too?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (ynpvh)

98 That's what SHE said.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (dGCAG)



Preach!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)

99 I know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:25 PM

Come on Marvel post!!
Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:36 PM


Has ace commented on how they seemed to actively try to make Sydney Sweeny unsexy in Madame Web? Preferably with side by side comparisons.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (OYxA4)

100 I know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.

We've disappointed you even more than usual, haven't we Ace?

* scuffs ground with foot *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (a3Q+t)

101 I'm glad I was sitting down for that shocker.
Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (53oGX)

=====

*snort*

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (DRSnL)

102 A mouth is a pussy? I'm confused. Does that make a fart-clam a pussy too?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (ynpvh)
++++
You mean "bonus hole"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (d04cU)

103
A mouth is a pussy? I'm confused. Does that make a fart-clam a pussy too?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (ynpvh)



Anal protects virginity.

Posted by: Liberal Teachers at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

104 How can PA be so close aren blacks embracing Trump ? Or so I’ve been told.

Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (Y6Wgg)

105 Maybe I'm too cynical.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (a3Q+t)

106 Go on and kiss him goodbye, now

Na-na-na-na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (RHGPo)

107
Given that we now know that the FBI was sent to his house with authorization to use lethal force and were told to not wear identifying clothing, I think we can safely assume that they hoped to either kill him, or to blame a gunfight on him.

With that as a talking point, I don't think they want a debate anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (lTGtQ)

Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (53oGX)

108 =========

If woman was a real asset, Kamala would have actually won the presidential primary in 2020 instead of never rising about 3rd tier and then getting completely forgotten while being thumped by two old white men.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (cD1dp)




Racist Americans failed to set her up for success.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

109 Especially those 30 something Karens. They hate polls. Which is why they can't get dates.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (dGCAG)

They use stripper poles in their 30's? Sounds a bit old for that job.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

What kind of clubs are YOU going to? The ones I go to, the strippers get real excited when it's Bring Your Granddaughter To Work Day.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (dGCAG)

110 Trump thumps Kumala.
...
ace is coyly referring to the old headline about Trump thumping Hillary.
Posted by: TexasDan
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Schlong!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (CiKCe)

111 84 Nearly 70% Of Gaza Aid From US-Built Pier Stolen

"They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels..."
Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (RHGPo)

Reports are that NONE of the aid is getting to civilians.... NONE of it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (xaFKb)

112 108 Racist Americans Democrats failed to set her up for success.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

==========

FIFY.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (cD1dp)

113 107
Given that we now know that the FBI was sent to his house with authorization to use lethal force and were told to not wear identifying clothing, I think we can safely assume that they hoped to either kill him, or to blame a gunfight on him.

With that as a talking point, I don't think they want a debate anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (lTGtQ)

Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (53oGX)

That's what I read the other night: authority to use deadly force, don't wear uniforms.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

114 ---
I don't mind the Disney posts, either. Politics, as they say, is downstream from culture. I think it's important for us to know what's going on in the broader culture.

Disney just happens to be the "face" of culture right now because its tendrils extend all throughout media.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 22, 2024 02:30 PM

I agree. This is Ace's blog anyway, he's free to write whatever he likes and I'm just as free to ignore it if it's a topic that I'm not interested in. Easy peasy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (mDaqy)

115 How can PA be so close aren blacks embracing Trump ?

They don't have a photo ID so they won't answer their phones

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (RHGPo)

116 109 Especially those 30 something Karens. They hate polls. Which is why they can't get dates.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM (dGCAG)

They use stripper poles in their 30's? Sounds a bit old for that job.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

What kind of clubs are YOU going to? The ones I go to, the strippers get real excited when it's Bring Your Granddaughter To Work Day.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (dGCAG)

I don't.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

117 103
A mouth is a pussy? I'm confused. Does that make a fart-clam a pussy too?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (ynpvh)


Anal protects virginity.
Posted by: Liberal Teachers at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

That's what you think.

Posted by: Yujiro Hanma, Booty Warrior at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (Wc83a)

118 Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?

Posted by: Inogame


Yes

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (lTGtQ)

119 I don't think Joe is agreeable to stepping aside. This, according to his wife, who isn't agreeable to him stepping aside.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 02:38 PM


Not to mention Beau's disagreeability.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (a3Q+t)

120 Others includes more than RFK. There’s Jill stein,
Cornel west and a few others.
Posted by: Montec at May 22, 2024 02:37 PM (Y6Wgg)
++++
Right, that was my question. If Trump goes up 5 points with "others" then either RFK isn't pulling Trump voters or the non-RFK candidates pull more Biden voters than RFK pulls Trump voters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM


I think some people are overlooking the fact that rfk came out as a fanatical leftist fan of abortion on demand up to and including partial birth abortion. He is not going to peel away more voters away from trump than he is going to steal from biden.


Granted he tried to walk back those positions later in the week but he left the mask slip and everyone saw his true position on abortion.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (QNSds)

121 Nate Silver has been warning the Junta for weeks about Biden being a loser, but he explains why their polling view has some small chance of turning out correct. The Dems argue Bidens weakest polls are with traditional Democrat core groups, the young, unionized workers, and black/hispanic voters. The Biden campaign says those groups are unhappy with inflation and open borders, but when the election happens, they will all vote for Biden.

That's their story. Personally, I think they are dreaming, because those unhappy voters are more likely not to vote at all if they choose not to go full Trump. They sure as hell aren't voting for Biden if they are this unhappy with his performance.

Trump has a decent shot at 312 EC votes, IMO, if the toilets don't leak.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (p0I4D)

122 That's because he changed his name to Ye and no one knew who he was.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)


Maybe they just couldn't Hear Ye?

Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (h0Z+I)

123 Toricellin Option was my favorite song off of Cream's second album.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (D7oie)

124 know that poll posts are as disliked as Disney posts. I'll post another one more quickly than usual.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:25 PM

The boss is hosting his blog like a boss.

For the record I like the Disney posts.

Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (0CsDL)

125 I'm glad I was sitting down for that shocker.
Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (53oGX)

That's what SHE said!!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (dGCAG)

126 Nearly 70% Of Gaza Aid From US-Built Pier Stolen

"They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels..."
Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (RHGPo)

This method probably gets more of it to actual Gazan civilians than the official delivery to Hamas or NGOs.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (eoQWY)

127 For the record I like the Disney posts.
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (0CsDL)
++++
Me, too!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (d04cU)

128 111 84 Nearly 70% Of Gaza Aid From US-Built Pier Stolen

"They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels..."
Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:39 PM (RHGPo)

Reports are that NONE of the aid is getting to civilians.... NONE of it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (xaFKb)

So, a typical modern relief operation then.

Posted by: Green helmets instead of blue helmets at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (Wc83a)

129 121
Trump has a decent shot at 312 EC votes, IMO, if the toilets don't leak.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (p0I4D)

=======

Nevada already had a "whoopsie" regarding sending out mail in ballots illegally.

The toilets are already leaking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (cD1dp)

130 Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (53oGX)

That's what I read the other night: authority to use deadly force, don't wear uniforms.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

I saw the headlines about deadly force.. I feel like the incognito order is out of the ordinary. However, I am not up on SOPs for estate raids.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (53oGX)

131 127 For the record I like the Disney posts.
Posted by: polynikes at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (0CsDL)
++++
Me, too!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (d04cU)

=======

If only we had one today...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (cD1dp)

132 I agree. This is Ace's blog anyway, he's free to write whatever he likes and I'm just as free to ignore it if it's a topic that I'm not interested in. Easy peasy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (mDaqy)


BOR-ING!!!

Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (h0Z+I)

133 95 Has anyone compiled a list of celebrities who will be moving should Trump win?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM

---

I'd like to see a list of deportations and banishments.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (wzAuc)

134 130 Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:42 PM (53oGX)

That's what I read the other night: authority to use deadly force, don't wear uniforms.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

I saw the headlines about deadly force.. I feel like the incognito order is out of the ordinary. However, I am not up on SOPs for estate raids.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (53oGX)

Apparently the combo of both was NOT the norm.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (ynpvh)

135 I'm more interested in Sienna's NY polling (it looks like a monthly schedule) than the swing states. Biden is ahead of Trump in the latest poll conducted last week by 9 points. Biden isn't gaining in NY despite the wall-to-wall court media coverage.

Posted by: mrp at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (rj6Yv)

136 128 Reports are that NONE of the aid is getting to civilians.... NONE of it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (xaFKb)

So, a typical modern relief operation then.
Posted by: Green helmets instead of blue helmets at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (Wc83a)

=======

Palestinians polled showed 75% approval for them starving in the service of killing Jews.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (cD1dp)

137 Trump has a decent shot at 312 EC votes, IMO, if the toilets don't leak.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (p0I4D)
++++
Trump has a decent shot of winning in the Party permits it. I think the Party might permit it.

But if the Party doesn't permit it then, as TJM pointed out, the toilets are already leaking.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (d04cU)

138 Posted by: Inogame


Yes
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:44 PM (lTGtQ)

My question was phrased poorly, I was not questioning your integrity. I was just surprised at that detail that I missed.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (53oGX)

139 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (QNSds)

I think there are Low info voters on both sides, who really don't know RFKs stances on issues... but dislike both Trump and Biden.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (xaFKb)

140 Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?
Posted by: Inogame
=======
Yes. Speculation is that Lisa Monaco did that.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (PkS4e)

141 I'm glad I was sitting down for that shocker.
Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (53oGX)


Sitting for a shocker?!? Difficult to get 1 in the... much less 2 in the ...

Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (h0Z+I)

142 If Kamala ends up in the top spot, you know she's going to Blow It.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (i9ffA)

143 I am not certain Trump thumps the 1st female pres, let alone the first female of color president.

I mean, he beat Hillary in 2016, so he has a better record of beating women than any other presidential candidate...and tied with many pro athletes.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (zCanN)

144 142 If Kamala ends up in the top spot, you know she's going to Blow It.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (i9ffA)

=======

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (cD1dp)

145 That would be just wrong as would thinking he should be hung after given Trump style show trial.

https://tinyurl.com/2s46bs4a
Posted by: lost in space

True - An ad hoc street trial would be more than justice deserves.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (CiKCe)

146 Sitting for a shocker?!? Difficult to get 1 in the... much less 2 in the ...
Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (h0Z+I)



OOH OOH!!!

Mad Libs, right?

Pink and Stink!!!

Do I win?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

147 125 I'm glad I was sitting down for that shocker.
Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (53oGX)

That's what SHE said!!
Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:45 PM (dGCAG)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE A SHOCKER REFERS TO SIMULTANEOUSLY INSERTING TWO FINGERS INTO THE VAGINA AND ONE FINGER INTO THE ANUS OF A FEMALE SEXUAL PARTNER.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (Wc83a)

148 141 I'm glad I was sitting down for that shocker.
Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM (53oGX)

Sitting for a shocker?!? Difficult to get 1 in the... much less 2 in the ...

Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (h0Z+I)

I guess it depends on the type of chair...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

149 I'm sure Frank is pretty pissed today thinking back.

"Hey Frank... wear this yellow Izod shirt. Looks really good on you!!"

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (7aRnr)

150 They're trying to cover for the fact that the trial went in the tank. Biden is up one hundred eleventy percent!

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (Ectld)

151 BOR-ING!!!
Posted by: Doof


Seriously. What would the Art Thread be without our pissing and moaning about the artwork de jure?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (v6JzV)

152 Has anyone compiled a list of celebrities who will be moving should Trump win?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 22, 2024 02:40 PM

---

I'd like to see a list of deportations and banishments.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (wzAuc)

------------------

I'd like to see -- and contribute to -- the list of Crucifixions and Executions.

In fact, I am here announcing my candidacy for the Future Secretary of Retribution.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (iORDk)

153 My question was phrased poorly, I was not questioning your integrity. I was just surprised at that detail that I missed.

Posted by: Inogame


Julie Kelley posted a screen shot of the order. It specifically told them to not wear identifying clothing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (lTGtQ)

154 =======

I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (cD1dp)



IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SHE HAS HER OWN SET OF LIFE TIME ACHIEVEMENT KNEE PADS.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

155 128 Reports are that NONE of the aid is getting to civilians.... NONE of it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:43 PM (xaFKb)

So, a typical modern relief operation then.
Posted by: Green helmets instead of blue helmets at May 22, 2024 02:46 PM (Wc83a)


They still have American Hostages... taken in a terrorist event...

and we are feeding them... aid and comfort to an enemy... sounds... vaguely... familiar....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:50 PM (xaFKb)

156 The RFKJr candidacy will be a DISASTER from Trump!!!

Posted by: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton at May 22, 2024 02:50 PM (xgbJW)

157 I guess it depends on the type of chair...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (ynpvh)



Taiwan basket.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)

158 I guess it depends on the type of chair...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (ynpvh)


Maybe a mesh-bottom bungee style chair

Posted by: Doof at May 22, 2024 02:50 PM (h0Z+I)

159
Blacks are afraid to show ID at a polling place because they'll be arrested. And if confronted by an electronic voting machine it's a computer and they don't understand those. So having the DNC fill in and mail in their ballot is the only way to prevent racism. Clear enough?

Posted by: Auspex at May 22, 2024 02:50 PM (j4U/Z)

160 So Bloomberg '...anticipates a Biden departure'?

I can't imagine a possible world where Joe Biden and his power-mad shrew of a wife Jill voluntarily step down. The DNC will need to force him out and such a cutthroat struggle for power can't be done entirely behind the scenes, as was done when Bernie was paid off. Joe's senile, which means he lives in a fantasy world, which means no real-word threat can move him.

So if Joe Biden 'departs' the race, then it will almost certainly be on a stretcher. All it would take to achieve that end would be a slightly modified variant of the amphetamine cocktail they've been dosing him with to make it through public appearances.

Oh, look: a stroke. So sad, too bad. Must be so hard on the family.

Posted by: troyriser at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (dsdI5)

161 I think they are running RFK to turn out more ballots IYKWIM

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (7aRnr)

162 Nevada already had a "whoopsie" regarding sending out mail in ballots illegally.

The toilets are already leaking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Silly, they aren't leaking YET...but we're scheduling all the failures for election night.

Posted by: Blue Metro County Election Official at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (zCanN)

163 Harry Shearer then laid out how silly that decision was, which also exposes how silly all of this woke fascism is…

“Back then, [Bill Cosby] was known as the ‘whitest black man on television,’” Shearer explained. “Then, a couple of years ago, I received an email saying they’d employed a black actor, who then copied my voice.”

Here’s the best part: “The result is a black man imitating a white man imitating the whitest black man on TV.”

It’s all so stupid.

But this is how rich and prosperous America has become, so rich and prosperous that we have all kinds of time to worry about things that don’t matter. There’s so little racism in America that, in our desire to pretend we’re the equivalent of marching with Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., we’re forced to turn non-racism into racism.

A white man respectfully voicing a black cartoon character is the opposite of racism.

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (RHGPo)

164 Trump has a decent shot of winning in the Party permits it. I think the Party might permit it.

But if the Party doesn't permit it then, as TJM pointed out, the toilets are already leaking.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (d04cU)

I've been leaning toward the belief they're going to let Trump win, with the belief they can control him. Again.

They figure they'll have enough of their appointees in slots that will allow them to keep The Don from disrupting their game too much. Besides, it's good to wash clean, the various hangers on and grifters from one party, and let the other party's grifters and hangers on get jobs for a few years.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (dGCAG)

165 RFK Jr. would be better off just using a throat kazoo.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (Zz0t1)

166 I know that poll posts are as disliked


I like polls. Ask Willie Brown.

Oh....polls, not poles.

Nevermind

Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (L7SYD)

167 I will wait patiently until after Labor Day to take any of these polls seriously, if even then.

Posted by: No one of any consequence. at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (VuZH8)

168 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE A SHOCKER REFERS TO SIMULTANEOUSLY INSERTING TWO FINGERS INTO THE VAGINA AND ONE FINGER INTO THE ANUS OF A FEMALE SEXUAL PARTNER.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (Wc83a)

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Never ceases to amaze me what I still learn on this here smart military blog.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (iORDk)

169 I think some people are overlooking the fact that rfk came out as a fanatical leftist fan of abortion on demand up to and including partial birth abortion. He is not going to peel away more voters away from trump than he is going to steal from biden.


NOT TRUE!!! RFKJr will peel away votes from Trump, ensuring a Biden second term!!!

Posted by: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (xgbJW)

170 166 I know that poll posts are as disliked


I like polls. Ask Willie Brown.

Oh....polls, not poles.

Nevermind

Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 22, 2024 02:51 PM (L7SYD)

Poll Post or Pol Pot?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (ynpvh)

171 "Right, that was my question. If Trump goes up 5 points with "others" then either RFK isn't pulling Trump voters or the non-RFK candidates pull more Biden voters than RFK pulls Trump voters."

yeah, but Trump gets 44%
Biden 39%
RFK jr 7%
Other 3%

Seems RFK Jr is hurting Biden more, even if the others are all hurting Biden. And just a few ads from Trump (or anyone) exposing RFK's crazy leftist side will make it it even more damaging to Biden.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (Cus5s)

172 You know who else didn't like Poles...?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)

173 168 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE A SHOCKER REFERS TO SIMULTANEOUSLY INSERTING TWO FINGERS INTO THE VAGINA AND ONE FINGER INTO THE ANUS OF A FEMALE SEXUAL PARTNER.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (Wc83a)

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Never ceases to amaze me what I still learn on this here smart military blog.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (iORDk)

It's part of the current Military curricula.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (ynpvh)

174 "I've been leaning toward the belief they're going to let Trump win, with the belief they can control him. Again."

I agree. The general feel is that the party has selected Trump. I don't think the banks appreciate Biden giving away all their money and sinking the economy.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (Ectld)

175 IMHO, the Deep State will not let Trump win.

Posted by: No one of any consequence. at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (VuZH8)

176 An aside:

"Yes, Trump is a deeply flawed candidate, but he's also the most likely alternative."

Is there a law where this caveat - this notion of "deeply flawed" -MUST be included in any mention of Trump? Is it called the Trump Disclaimer Act or something and its passage was never televised?

Good Lord, the the compulsive apologetics are nauseating.

Yes, he's flawed. Turns out he's the least deeply-flawed of all who competed for the job. EVERYONE who is alive is flawed to some measure of depth. Must Trump be marginalized after every mention of his relative success?

Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (aXxgO)

177 Trump has a decent shot of winning in the Party permits it. I think the Party might permit it.

But if the Party doesn't permit it then, as TJM pointed out, the toilets are already leaking.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:47 PM (d04cU)


Why would they risk him getting to choose the next SC justice. Makes zero sense to me. I don't see them allowing anything. They need the court for full destruction.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (7aRnr)

178 You know who else didn't like Poles...?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)
++++
A certain Austrian?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (d04cU)

179 One thing I'd like to see is law enforcement SWAT raids become rare things.
As ridiculous as the raid on Trump was, there were others that were just as crazy and on any measure unnecessary.

Shock and Awe is for military actions not law enforcement actions.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (53oGX)

180
It's part of the current Military curricula.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (ynpvh)



Just not for the Navy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)

181 135 I'm more interested in Sienna's NY polling (it looks like a monthly schedule) than the swing states. Biden is ahead of Trump in the latest poll conducted last week by 9 points. Biden isn't gaining in NY despite the wall-to-wall court media coverage.
Posted by: mrp
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Trends up or down are about the only thing you can derive from polls right now. One problem, aside from organized cheating, is that you will not know who is registered to vote for Fall 2024 until sometime in the middle to late Sept timeframe. So all person polls give way to registered voter polls and those give way at that time to likely voter polls.

Trump, like Ed Bradley in California, or the shy Tory effect in UK at times, creates problems with likely voter screens because he draws more from disaffected casual or new voters that are not picked up by the standard RDD polling frames. GOP voters are increasingly not willing to answer surveys or phone calls as well. That doesn't matter in a national poll but to get an accurate state poll, it can be very difficult and expensive to get a good random sample.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (PkS4e)

182 ++++
A certain Austrian?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (d04cU)



NAYBAAH!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

183
Why would they risk him getting to choose the next SC justice. Makes zero sense to me. I don't see them allowing anything. They need the court for full destruction.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (7aRnr)

If they can't steal the presidency they will steal the senate.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (53oGX)

184 I will believe Trump can overcome the mass mail ballot harvesting/fraud operations when he actually does it, and not before.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (V6W16)

185 "I've been leaning toward the belief they're going to let Trump win, with the belief they can control him. Again."

I agree. The general feel is that the party has selected Trump. I don't think the banks appreciate Biden giving away all their money and sinking the economy.

Posted by: Ribbed



Or they can blame him for the major crash that is coming on like a freight train.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (lTGtQ)

186 Jim Geraghty considers Biden's line that #ThePollsAreSkewed and wonders: But if they're not skewed...?

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What if -- like in past historical poll -- they're actually skewed against Trump?

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (iORDk)

187 You know who else didn't like Poles...?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)

The guy on the ladder?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (dGCAG)

188 "Just not for the Navy."

Sponge is just jealous our ships are bigger.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (Ectld)

189 Obviously, Trump thumps Kumala.

With the way this thread has gone off the rails that phrase conjecture a mental image none of us needs

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (L7SYD)

190 This brunette is voting for Trump because after a few years of Brandon's economy, she can no longer afford to replace her tattered clothing:
http://tiny.cc/tn87yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (d04cU)

191 188 "Just not for the Navy."

Sponge is just jealous our ships are bigger.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (Ectld)

Submariners like being on the bottom...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (ynpvh)

192 I've listened to Clay and Buck-Maybe I haven't listened enough but they have said that RFK hurts Biden more than Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (XkYcA)

193 97
A mouth is a pussy? I'm confused. Does that make a fart-clam a pussy too?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (ynpvh)
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With farts, a fartclam gives real blowjobs.

Posted by: Ciampino - gas or liquid at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (qfLjt)

194 They use stripper poles in their 30's? Sounds a bit old for that job.

Haven't you heard? 30 is the new... 29.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (/y8xj)

195 190 This brunette is voting for Trump because after a few years of Brandon's economy, she can no longer afford to replace her tattered clothing:
http://tiny.cc/tn87yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (d04cU)

I'm glad she survived the bear mauling with damage to her pants only.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (ynpvh)

196 Top voter issues: economy (35%) and immigration (14%).

But...but...I go to leftwing sites and they say the Bidenconomy is the best ever and there is no issue with immigration...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (ibTVg)

197 With all the money and illegals, why these fuckers think they cant win is beyond me.

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (fRFTM)

198 193 97
A mouth is a pussy? I'm confused. Does that make a fart-clam a pussy too?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:41 PM (ynpvh)
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With farts, a fartclam gives real blowjobs.
Posted by: Ciampino - gas or liquid at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (qfLjt)

I feel like there isn't enough THC in the country to follow this thread...

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (53oGX)

199 196 Top voter issues: economy (35%) and immigration (14%).

But...but...I go to leftwing sites and they say the Bidenconomy is the best ever and there is no issue with immigration...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (ibTVg)

========

Also that climate change is going to win the election for Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (cD1dp)

200 Given that we now know that the FBI was sent to his house with authorization to use lethal force and were told to not wear identifying clothing, I think we can safely assume that they hoped to either kill him, or to blame a gunfight on him.

With that as a talking point, I don't think they want a debate anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Come on now...
Advising agents before raiding a location known to have armed security that they can use lethal force, telling them to wear hoodies*, and conceal police gear is routine.

*Hoodie, coveralls, butchers smocks, whatever the he'll it was, it was not "proper police uniform"

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (CiKCe)

201 If they can't steal the presidency they will steal the senate.

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (53oGX)

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* Arizona has entered the chat for the fourth consecutive election cycle *

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (iORDk)

202 191 188 "Just not for the Navy."

Sponge is just jealous our ships are bigger.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (Ectld)

Submariners like being on the bottom...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (ynpvh)

First Mixed Crew Fast Attack Sub is about to deploy.... will be... interesting...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (xaFKb)

203 I do not get the appeal of ripped jeans.

If you are hot put on shorts/skirt.

It just looks low class...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (ibTVg)

204
If they can't steal the presidency they will steal the senate.
Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 02:54 PM (53oGX)

I can buy that.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (7aRnr)

205 I'm glad she survived the bear mauling with damage to her pants only.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (ynpvh)


Chewed off the bottom of her shirt right off, too. That must have been a close call.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (nOjd9)

206 Why would they risk him getting to choose the next SC justice. Makes zero sense to me. I don't see them allowing anything. They need the court for full destruction.
Posted by: ...
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Because some of the smarter Deep State factions realize that the US is very brittle right now and likely to spiral into some very unpleasant times with scant ability to figure out who will 'win'.

Forcing a small minority into camps etc. is possible because people can reason themselves out of doing anything. Try that on a mass scale of half the population that is also substantially armed is a recipe for tremendous blood letting. That is leaving out the whole nuke issue--in part the Soviet Union died peacefully because no one wanted to get nuked to try to keep leaving states in.

Political types are often stupid looking for the next election hit--deep state types are usually not--they just differ on goals and time tables.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (PkS4e)

207 459 RVs?

I wouldn't pay much attention to that poll, especially when the RCP average for NV is +4.5

The only LV poll for NV has Trump up 13, so...

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (CjgNg)

208 But...but...I go to leftwing sites and they say the Bidenconomy is the best ever and there is no issue with immigration...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM (ibTVg)
++++
For them, probably true. Two reasons:
1. It genuinely isn't a problem because they live in peaceful and likely gated suburbs and have comfortable jobs that are unlikely to vanish in the next 36 months
2. It's a huge problem, but when the Party man asks, "who you gonna believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?" they choose the Party man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (d04cU)

209 203 I do not get the appeal of ripped jeans.

If you are hot put on shorts/skirt.

It just looks low class...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (ibTVg)

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She's a bad, bad girlfriend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (cD1dp)

210 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 22, 2024 02:48 PM (zCanN)

Hilary was strongly disliked, and white.

I'm not saying Kamala is popular, but Pantsuit was just flat out unlikeable, terrible abradive personality, e en her flat Midwestern accent was annoying.

Kamala is dumb as a box of tricks, and I find her annoying, but she doesn't have that textbook, pinchfaced scold, Karen vibe.

Plus, person of color.

They will also get abortion issues on the ballot, which will bring t he liberal women out in droves, even if they don't poll well for Biden now. RFK may take some of Bidens votes. Hopefully a lot.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (Vvh2V)

211 She's a bad, bad girlfriend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (cD1dp)

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Great, now THAT is going to stuck in my head.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (DRSnL)

212 This brunette is voting for Trump because after a few years of Brandon's economy, she can no longer afford to replace her tattered clothing:
http://tiny.cc/tn87yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM (d04cU)


Does she have a TikTok meltdown video?

Posted by: spindrift at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (OguvZ)

213 "So having the DNC fill in and mail in their ballot is the only way to prevent racism. Clear enough?"

Didn't they find that in Miami (?) they were not even mailing them ... some ward boss would come around and collect them? It was something illegal like that, but was a long term practice.

I seem to recall from Rokyo's The Boss something similar in Chicago. The ward boss (or block boss, whatever) would make sure all the local votes were collected (and properly marked), or some such illegal procedure.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (Cus5s)

214 Yes, he's flawed. Turns out he's the least deeply-flawed of all who competed for the job. EVERYONE who is alive is flawed to some measure of depth. Must Trump be marginalized after every mention of his relative success?
Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at May 22, 2024 02:53 PM (aXxgO)
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Dude, he said PUSSY!

Posted by: ballistic at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (oqH4h)

215 You know who else didn't like Poles...?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)

Well, the Russians didn't like Solidarity and the Polish priest associated with it, whose last name I won't even try to spell, but his first name was Jerzy. Last name began with a "P"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (XkYcA)

216 Does anyone believe that Trump will win in PA and WI?

I don't. That makes VA and NV very important.

This is still an uphill electoral college map.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
____

This is my issue as well, usually presidential races are about making purple states red, Trump has to flip blue states to pull this off.

WI was trending red but that went off the rails.

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (2E+DV)

217 I do not get the appeal of ripped jeans.

If you are hot put on shorts/skirt.

It just looks low class...
Posted by: 18-1


I agree. Another stupid, ugly "fashion" trend of our time.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (v6JzV)

218 On Nevada - That's the one state where Democrats always outperform their polls. The polls do a lousy job of picking up the blackjack dealer who is sleeping all day and working overnight, but the Dem machine does a great job of getting him to the polls during election month out there.

So Trump +5 sounds like a dead heat to me.

Posted by: Stephen at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (bNOZJ)

219 With all the money and illegals, why these fuckers think they cant win is beyond me.

They went way beyond past endeavors to steal 2020...and they are going to have to go way beyond that in 2024.

Will they do it? I suspect so. But they'd rather produce a few millions votes or less unlike the 20M in 2020 and...40M? in 2024?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (ibTVg)

220 Another yes vote for Disney posts!

Posted by: bearski at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (Bhsk7)

221 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE A SHOCKER REFERS TO SIMULTANEOUSLY INSERTING TWO FINGERS INTO THE VAGINA AND ONE FINGER INTO THE ANUS OF A FEMALE SEXUAL PARTNER.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER

Ben, you transphobe! It works exactly the same if you stick two fingers in the vagina of your trans-male partner!!!!!!

Posted by: Elliot Page at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (zCanN)

222
Does Bob Iger read the Disney posts like he watches that Doomcock show?

if so, some Papal advice for a successful leading lady: "She gotta be a pretty, she gotta be a Catholic, and she gotta have BIG TITS!"

Posted by: Auspex at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (j4U/Z)

223 Im honestly surprised at ther number of RFK signs I've seen in NYC. It won't make a difference here, but it would be hilarious if Trump does end up winning partially because Dems pissed off RFK and he got enough votes to sway PA or WI.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (hsW9d)

224 ***considers Biden's line that #ThePollsAreSkewed***
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Polls are usually skewed Democrat. What if that same bias is present in today's polls? Why would they change the bias in favor of Trump?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (E78bp)

225 Your front yard has heads on pikes,you don't have to prove yourself, Ace.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (J8LnB)

226 213 "So having the DNC fill in and mail in their ballot is the only way to prevent racism. Clear enough?"

Didn't they find that in Miami (?) they were not even mailing them ... some ward boss would come around and collect them? It was something illegal like that, but was a long term practice.

I seem to recall from Rokyo's The Boss something similar in Chicago. The ward boss (or block boss, whatever) would make sure all the local votes were collected (and properly marked), or some such illegal procedure.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (Cus5s).

Only error I see is the use of a past tense...

Posted by: Inogame at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (53oGX)

227 "Must Trump be marginalized after every mention of his relative success?"

What? You want to be labeled unreasonable or something? How dare you.

See homosexual marrige, racism, etc.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

228 Wait.. I didn't see that detail? Is that true?
A raid with non-identifiable uniforms on a place with Secret Service, and private security protection?
Posted by: Inogame

A blood bath was the intent.
Junta does as Junta do.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 03:00 PM (CiKCe)

229 During recent testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Retired General Austin Scott Miller, who had been in charge of our Afghanistan forces at the time, told Congress that he had specifically warned the President what would happen if the pullout was conducted as it was being planned. He was ignored and the results speak for themselves.

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (RHGPo)

230 Does she have a TikTok meltdown video?
Posted by: spindrift at May 22, 2024 02:58 PM (OguvZ)
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Hmmm. Doubt it. 3-5 years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (d04cU)

231 I'm not saying Kamala is popular, but Pantsuit was just flat out unlikeable, terrible abrasive personality, even her flat Midwestern accent was annoying.

Kamala is dumb as a box of tricks, and I find her annoying, but she doesn't have that textbook, pinchfaced scold, Karen vibe.
______________

The cackling alone will sink her.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (YqDXo)

232 ______________

The cackling alone will sink her.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (YqDXo)



SHRIMP AND GRITS!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

233 I saw a story today that a farm worker in Texas now has the bird flu, so I suspect they'll run with the second fake pandemic if things go really dire for Joe.

Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (PwgSL)

234 You can't count on PA. The voting is not even remotely secure and corruption is rampant and accepted. It's been going on for so long it's ingrained into the system. The last honest Presidential election in PA was in 2004. the reason they didn't pull out all the stops in 2016 is because they didn't think they had to cheat. You can tell how vital election corruption is to the Democrats by talking about reform. They go into hysterics because without the corruption PA would be Red from top to bottom.

Posted by: Alfred at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (b6c/x)

235 Well, the Russians didn't like Solidarity and the Polish priest associated with it, whose last name I won't even try to spell, but his first name was Jerzy. Last name began with a "P"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I don't remember that guy. I do remember that there was a Cardinal Glemp who I think was pro-Solidarity.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (v6JzV)

236 231 I'm not saying Kamala is popular, but Pantsuit was just flat out unlikeable, terrible abrasive personality, even her flat Midwestern accent was annoying.

Kamala is dumb as a box of tricks, and I find her annoying, but she doesn't have that textbook, pinchfaced scold, Karen vibe.
______________

The cackling alone will sink her.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (YqDXo)

No gag reflex though..

Posted by: Bubba C at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (53oGX)

237 233 I saw a story today that a farm worker in Texas now has the bird flu, so I suspect they'll run with the second fake pandemic if things go really dire for Joe.

Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (PwgSL)

STOP. F**KING. CHICKENS!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (ynpvh)

238 Hilary was strongly disliked, and white.

I'm not saying Kamala is popular, but Pantsuit was just flat out unlikeable, terrible abradive personality, e en her flat Midwestern accent was annoying.

Kamala is dumb as a box of tricks, and I find her annoying, but she doesn't have that textbook, pinchfaced scold, Karen vibe.

Plus, person of color.

They will also get abortion issues on the ballot, which will bring t he liberal women out in droves, even if they don't poll well for Biden now. RFK may take some of Bidens votes. Hopefully a lot.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor
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In Georgia, the abortion issue was a dud in the State Supreme Court race just yesterday. Dem candidate (officially non partisan race) pushed the limit and got his ass spanked 55-45.

Right now, there are numerous issues out there that we have not even considered before November so a lot of the bloviation on the political press is their particular issue--not voters (or ballots in some cases).

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (PkS4e)

239 Also that climate change is going to win the election for Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM

--

An insurmountable problem requires incompetent solutions.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (wzAuc)

240 I also think Kamala would outperform Biden. Not by a lot, but at least some of Biden's issue is everyone knows Biden he has severe dementia. Kamala is stupid, but she's not literally shitting her pants in front of reporters.

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (2E+DV)

241
STOP. F**KING. CHICKENS!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (ynpvh)



Wayt.......whut?!?

Posted by: West Virginia at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

242 Let me know when they start polling ballots instead of people.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (mSay6)

243 Biden will not be on the Ohio ballot, says the Ohio Sec of State.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (MeG8a)

244 The cackling alone will sink her.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (YqDXo)
++++
Hillary and Kamala have different problems.

Hillary comes across as an extremely evil and unlikable person with an annoying laugh and devastating ideas.

Kamala comes across as an extremely stupid and unlikable person with an annoying laugh and no ideas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (d04cU)

245 239 Also that climate change is going to win the election for Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 02:56 PM

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An insurmountable problem requires incompetent solutions.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (wzAuc)

The ballots done got dissoved by Climate Change, but their feeling better now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (ynpvh)

246 234 You can't count on PA. The voting is not even remotely secure and corruption is rampant and accepted. It's been going on for so long it's ingrained into the system. The last honest Presidential election in PA was in 2004. the reason they didn't pull out all the stops in 2016 is because they didn't think they had to cheat. You can tell how vital election corruption is to the Democrats by talking about reform. They go into hysterics because without the corruption PA would be Red from top to bottom.
Posted by: Alfred at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (b6c/x)

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The fight on election integrity never moved past Voter ID. The GOP would run on it, maybe implement it from time to time, but ultimately, they never moved beyond it except in individual pockets (DeSantis in FL, for instance).

I think that was by design.

The GOP is definitely in on the cheat as well. They don't want clean elections. Voter ID was a small fight that didn't affect much because most of the cheat isn't done by individuals voting for someone else at a polling station.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (cD1dp)

247 The first crewed test flight of Boeing's long-delayed Starliner spacecraft won't take off as planned Saturday and could face a longer postponement as engineers evaluate a stubborn leak of helium from the capsule's propulsion system.

NASA announced the latest delay of the Starliner test flight late Tuesday. Officials will take more time to consider their options for how to proceed with the mission after discovering the small helium leak on the spacecraft's service module.

The space agency did not describe what options are on the table, but sources said they range from flying the spacecraft "as is" with a thorough understanding of the leak and confidence it won't become more significant in flight, to removing the capsule from its Atlas V rocket and taking it back to a hangar for repairs.

Theoretically, the former option could permit a launch attempt as soon as next week. The latter alternative could delay the launch until at least late summer.

... glad I don't own any Boeing stock

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (RHGPo)

248 216 Does anyone believe that Trump will win in PA and WI?

I don't. That makes VA and NV very important.

This is still an uphill electoral college map.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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It all depends on which counties cheat the best.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:04 PM (E78bp)

249 Kamala is stupid, but she's not literally shitting her pants in front of reporters.
Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (2E+DV)

Not for free anyway...

Posted by: Kamala at May 22, 2024 03:04 PM (53oGX)

250 I'm really off the train on so many subjects today. I like my wife in ripped jeans.

I mean I'm a skirt/dress guy (don't like how that sounds) through and through but it works.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:04 PM (7aRnr)

251 "What if -- like in past historical poll -- they're actually skewed against Trump?"

That will help The Narrative when they add 5-10% for Joe late at night, after kicking out R watchers and blocking all the windows.

If only that Atlanta toilet had not overflowed and stopped the vote count in five critical states.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (Cus5s)

252 Kamala doesn't mind being poled.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (krQz2)

253 251 If only that Atlanta toilet had not overflowed and stopped the vote count in five critical states Trump was a quality candidate.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (Cus5s)

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FIFY.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (cD1dp)

254 NASA announced the latest delay of the Starliner test flight late Tuesday. Officials will take more time to consider their options for how to proceed with the mission after discovering the small helium leak on the spacecraft's service module.


BREAKING: NASA was found in it's car in the parking lot with a gunshot wound to the head with an apparent suicide note on the dash.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (Zz0t1)

255 251 "What if -- like in past historical poll -- they're actually skewed against Trump?"

That will help The Narrative when they add 5-10% for Joe late at night, after kicking out R watchers and blocking all the windows.

If only that Atlanta toilet had not overflowed and stopped the vote count in five critical states.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (Cus5s)

Twas a flood of biblical proportions. That happens when Tank Abrams takes a dump...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:06 PM (ynpvh)

256 217 I do not get the appeal of ripped jeans.
If you are hot put on shorts/skirt.
It just looks low class...
Posted by: 18-1
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I agree. Another stupid, ugly "fashion" trend of our time.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Making degradation great. Welcome to new America.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:06 PM (E78bp)

257 Kamala doesn't mind being poled.
Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 03:05 PM (krQz2)



From poll to pole smoke in one election cycle.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

258
I polled Kamala. Plenty of times.

Posted by: Willie Brown at May 22, 2024 03:07 PM (+oR7L)

259 I have been saying that for some time, Sundowner won't make 2024

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:07 PM (fwDg9)

260 During recent testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Retired General Austin Scott Miller, who had been in charge of our Afghanistan forces at the time, told Congress that he had specifically warned the President what would happen if the pullout was conducted as it was being planned. He was ignored and the results speak for themselves.
Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 03:01 PM (RHGPo)

By the time they got to the bugout stage, it was inevitable this thing would go bad, no matter how "carefully" they planned it.

The military deserves all the blame, because they're the ones who were supposedly training the Afghanis to take over once our troops left, and they knew damn well there was no Afghan army. It didn't exist, and the brass should have been warning everyone who would listen this thing was a total loss.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (dGCAG)

261 259 I have been saying that for some time, Sundowner won't make 2024
Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:07 PM (fwDg9)

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And I've been saying that he'd run for re-election in 2024, win in 2024, and live to 2035.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (cD1dp)

262 Lightning just struck the street out front......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

263 I agree. Another stupid, ugly "fashion" trend of our time.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (v6JzV)
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If "our time" means "decades now," then sure. When I was a kid in the 90s, ripped jeans were a thing. They're still a thing. I don't understand the appeal of "distressed" clothing (I suspect it's a girl thing), but it's been around for a long time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (d04cU)

264 258
I polled Kamala. Plenty of times.

Posted by: Willie Brown at May 22, 2024 03:07 PM (+oR7L)

A survey was made of Polish strippers on the use of poles. It was a Pole pole poll.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (ynpvh)

265 237 233 I saw a story today that a farm worker in Texas now has the bird flu, so I suspect they'll run with the second fake pandemic if things go really dire for Joe.

Posted by: Biergood
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The media have tried and failed multiple times with scares including monkeypox, etc. The Govt lies told during Covid and those sins of Big Pharma are biting them in the ass now because a substantial number of people are not going to board SS Quarantine again and you risk systematic breakdown of the federal system this time if you try to force lockdowns again.

Bird flu is simply not that easy to pass to humans that are not in close contact with animals and the differences between it and regular flu are not readily explainable in the media during the time we have left before the election.

Political capital is a thing and the Biden junta have pissed all of their away to do much of anything other than try to distract atttention from their piss poor record.

The GOP in Congress has done a similar thing by not resisting Biden which is why I dunno about congressional races in 2024.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (PkS4e)

266 Lightning just struck the street out front......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

=====

What did you do now?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (DRSnL)

267 Redstate reports that Sweetdick attended Fani Willis' party to celebrate her primary victory.

Posted by: PabloD at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (atzGP)

268 Kelly Rowland is a 1. She also is top right corner hot/crazy matrix

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (fRFTM)

269 Joe needs to be replaced with Hunter. He is the most uniquely qualified to be president in these times.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (seACy)

270
Biden looks more and more like the creepy preacher from Poltergist 2. Emaciated, pasty white, thinning white hair. They look like twins. Almost sound the same too.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (+oR7L)

271 235-It's a very powerful story, Bulgar. He was murdered. He has been declared blessed by the church and if you can find a picture of him, he had IMO, a very thoughtful face. Young priest:

https://tinyurl.com/4xucek4f

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (XkYcA)

272 263 I agree. Another stupid, ugly "fashion" trend of our time.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM (v6JzV)
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If "our time" means "decades now," then sure. When I was a kid in the 90s, ripped jeans were a thing. They're still a thing. I don't understand the appeal of "distressed" clothing (I suspect it's a girl thing), but it's been around for a long time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (d04cU)

I still use ripped jeans for yardwork. They were originally pristine, but with use got holes and rips.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (ynpvh)

273
I'd like to see a trump vs newsom poll.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (BZY6c)

274 The GOP is definitely in on the cheat as well. They don't want clean elections. Voter ID was a small fight that didn't affect much because most of the cheat isn't done by individuals voting for someone else at a polling station.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (cD1dp)

Please ease back on the negativity. The GOP is Fightin for me.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (7aRnr)

275 =====

What did you do now?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (DRSnL)



I told Sponge Bro I wasn't going to sit behind his dad's drum kit for EXACTLY that reason.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

276 274 Please ease back on the negativity. The GOP is Fightin for me.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (7aRnr)

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I'm sorry.

Mitch spending more money to defeat conservatives in primaries has led to a vigorous GOP fighting for me.

I'd forgotten.

I'm positive now!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (cD1dp)

277 Kamala is dumb as a box of tricks, and I find her annoying, but she doesn't have that textbook, pinchfaced scold, Karen vibe.

They will also get abortion issues on the ballot...


She is a powerful argument for legalized abortion, I'll grant you, but even with her as the figurehead, I don't think the country will go for 231st trimester abortions.

Posted by: Confused Moron at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (zCanN)

278 An insurmountable problem requires incompetent solutions.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 03:02 PM (wzAuc)
__________________

An imaginary problem requires extreme leftist solutions.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

279 When I was a kid in the 90s
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


You may quietly show yourself off my lawn now, whippersnapper.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (v6JzV)

280 The worse the race gets for dems, the more likely they try again to assassinate Trump.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

I have been worried that this is written in some underground lair of the WEF/Democrat cabal as the final solution if all else fails. Multiple entities world-wide are invested in the goal that he never returns to the WH. All they need is a crazed person who won't mind being martyred for the cause.

Posted by: Cheri at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (oiNtH)

281 The polls will remain skewed until the Joementum miracle happens in November.

On a more serious note:

I see RFK Jr. pulling more votes from Joe than from PDT. Voting for Joe is PDT derangement syndrome writ large.

RFK Jr. has the name recognition for older D's and isn't PDT.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (tT6L1)

282 The media have tried and failed multiple times with scares including monkeypox, etc. ...
...
Political capital is a thing and the Biden junta have pissed all of their away to do much of anything other than try to distract atttention from their piss poor record. ...
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (PkS4e)
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They're *still* trying with Monkeypox. My local news channel ran a scare piece earlier this week (or last week, I don't remember) on some new form of hypermonkeypox that will *definitely* get you this time!

And I think you are being too limiting in that very, very good point. The junta hasn't burned through its political capital, the entire system - top to bottom and end to end - has done that. The tank is empty. Political capital doesn't really exist anymore, and neither does trust. All that's left is will to power.

Endgame stuff.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (d04cU)

283 274 The GOP is definitely in on the cheat as well. They don't want clean elections. Voter ID was a small fight that didn't affect much because most of the cheat isn't done by individuals voting for someone else at a polling station.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (cD1dp)

Please ease back on the negativity. The GOP is Fightin for me.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (7aRnr)

FIFY

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (ynpvh)

284 >>>Theoretically, the former option could permit a launch attempt as soon as next week. The latter alternative could delay the launch until at least late summer.

... glad I don't own any Boeing stock
Posted by: SMOD
-------------------------

Glad I'm not designated to ride in that death trap capsule.
Starliner, indeed.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (E78bp)

285 I'd like to see a trump vs newsom poll.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (BZY6c)
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Trump is toast if Generic Democrats decides to run.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (krQz2)

286 Kelly Rowland is a 1. She also is top right corner hot/crazy matrix
Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (fRFTM)
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Facts.

I dunno about anymore, but she absolutely was a 1, anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (d04cU)

287 I know I never took a second look at Kamala. The first look pretty well summed up everything about her vapid self. Now she's just stoned all the time.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (C26rB)

288 No way Trump beats President Biden. Impossible.

Posted by: Sid at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (SLlSo)

289 237. The farm worker was a dairy employee who was feeding cows. The cow was positive for bird flu along with several other cows. Unless this is a different story. This dairy shipped cows to other states, and now a herd in Western Michigan that the cows were assimilated into has tested positive.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (a4kTx)

290 You may quietly show yourself off my lawn now, whippersnapper.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (v6JzV)
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LOL. Noted. I've never pretended to not be one of the Dread Millennials.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (d04cU)

291 284 >>>Theoretically, the former option could permit a launch attempt as soon as next week. The latter alternative could delay the launch until at least late summer.

... glad I don't own any Boeing stock
Posted by: SMOD
-------------------------

Glad I'm not designated to ride in that death trap capsule.
Starliner, indeed.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (E78bp)

Those guys better insurance up, and quickly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (ynpvh)

292 Ripped jeans became a thing in the 80s due to hair bands like Def Leppard. Disappeared for awhile, now have made a resurgence. Bell bottoms disappeared after their peak in the 70s then came back as a fashion trend about 20-25 years later. They're just recycled clothing fads, with people pretending they just invented it.

Posted by: Nothing original under the sun at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (Wc83a)

293 If "our time" means "decades now," then sure. When I was a kid in the 90s, ripped jeans were a thing. They're still a thing. I don't understand the appeal of "distressed" clothing (I suspect it's a girl thing), but it's been around for a long time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (d04cU)



My brother got battery acid on his jeans and after a wash or two, the holes were significant. He was in high school and had multiple girls offer him cash for them. In the 80's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)

294 274 Please ease back on the negativity. The GOP is Fightin for me.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (7aRnr)


They're fighting to be the first in line to jam their XXXX in your ass. That's what they're fighting for.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (aFNOf)

295 218 On Nevada - That's the one state where Democrats always outperform their polls. The polls do a lousy job of picking up the blackjack dealer who is sleeping all day and working overnight, but the Dem machine does a great job of getting him to the polls during election month out there.

So Trump +5 sounds like a dead heat to me.
Posted by: Stephen at May 22, 2024 02:59 PM

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My experience has been that a lot of people in the hospitality business (and I'm quoting here) "fucking hate fucking Democrats" because they are despicably bad tippers. The bartenders and wait staff I've know are mostly conservative about money because they work hard, and way liberal about everything else because they love to drink, toke and schtump. A lot of them don't vote.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (wzAuc)

296 An insurmountable problem requires incompetent solutions.


Pretty sure that is my employer's go to action plan


Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (L7SYD)

297 My brother got battery acid on his jeans and after a wash or two, the holes were significant. He was in high school and had multiple girls offer him cash for them. In the 80's.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)
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I hope he sold them.

Or exchanged them for phone numbers, at least.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (d04cU)

298 290 You may quietly show yourself off my lawn now, whippersnapper.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:10 PM (v6JzV)
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LOL. Noted. I've never pretended to not be one of the Dread Millennials.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (d04cU)

Some reason I thought you wuz older...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (ynpvh)

299 I still use ripped jeans for yardwork. They were originally pristine, but with use got holes and rips.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

It's fine if the rips came about naturally. It's the pre-ripped stuff that the chicks wear in public that I find offensive.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (v6JzV)

300 235-Here's his picture, Bulgar. I think he must have been saying Mass:

https://tinyurl.com/y4jyw7fw

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (XkYcA)

301 259 I have been saying that for some time, Sundowner won't make 2024
Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:07 PM (fwDg9)

========

And I've been saying that he'd run for re-election in 2024, win in 2024, and live to 2035.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Old medical phrase:
GOMERs don't die, they just go to ground.

*GOMER = get out of my emergency room
*ground = the floor

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (w9Wax)

302 I'd like to see -- and contribute to -- the list of Crucifixions and Executions.

In fact, I am here announcing my candidacy for the Future Secretary of Retribution.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 02:49 PM (iORDk)


You are talking about Proscriptions, like Caesar's list.

The question is both "is this wise" and "where do we nail the heads"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (D7oie)

303 269 Joe needs to be replaced with Hunter. He is the most uniquely qualified to be president in these times.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

I promise to clean up the streets of fentanyl, heroin, and every other dangerous, powerful drug! I will use the entirety of the Fed government to seize every gram of these drugs, and store them safely and securely in the White House, under my PERSONAL supervision. This, I pledge, to you.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (zCanN)

304 292 Ripped jeans became a thing in the 80s due to hair bands like Def Leppard. Disappeared for awhile, now have made a resurgence. Bell bottoms disappeared after their peak in the 70s then came back as a fashion trend about 20-25 years later. They're just recycled clothing fads, with people pretending they just invented it.

Posted by: Nothing original under the sun at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (Wc83a)

Did the Navy ever get rid of their bell-bottoms?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (ynpvh)

305 They're *still* trying with Monkeypox. My local news channel ran a scare piece earlier this week (or last week, I don't remember) on some new form of hypermonkeypox that will *definitely* get you this time!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (d04cU)

How many folks do you know that are having buttsex with strangers? I'd have to say my number trends to zero.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (C26rB)

306 Please ease back on the negativity. The GOP is Fightin for donations from me.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:09 PM (7aRnr)
++++
I mean ...

Posted by: ... It's kinda obvious at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (d04cU)

307 When I was a kid in the 90s
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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That's my line.

Posted by: President Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (krQz2)

308 293 If "our time" means "decades now," then sure. When I was a kid in the 90s, ripped jeans were a thing. They're still a thing. I don't understand the appeal of "distressed" clothing (I suspect it's a girl thing), but it's been around for a long time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (d04cU)



My brother got battery acid on his jeans and after a wash or two, the holes were significant. He was in high school and had multiple girls offer him cash for them. In the 80's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)

So they wanted to get into his pants?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

309 They're just recycled clothing fads, with people pretending they just invented it.

Posted by: Nothing original under the sun at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (Wc83a)

Just like teenagers think they invented sex.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (C26rB)

310 Wow, Sid still hasn't died in a hail of gunfire after getting caught in a pedophile sting operation.

There's always tomorrow.

*fingers crossed*

Posted by: spindrift at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (OguvZ)

311 Redstate reports that Sweetdick attended Fani Willis' party to celebrate her primary victory.
Posted by: PabloD

The useless weasel eyed Judge in the case also won.

Posted by: Cheri at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (oiNtH)

312 Posted by: Sid at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (SLlSo)


You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

313 The Donks will pull the lever/print ballots for Harris if they're told to. Set aside these silly notions of her not being liked.

Joe wasn't liked either until he got the nod. He was a racist groping old creepy guy that even Jon Stewart made fun of. He was the butt of everyone's jokes.

Until he got the nod. Now he's The Best EVAR!!!

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (CjgNg)

314 The GOP is definitely in on the cheat as well. They don't want clean elections. Voter ID was a small fight that didn't affect much because most of the cheat isn't done by individuals voting for someone else at a polling station.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Some interesting work is occurring below the media attention. Essentially third party groups are now suing in multiple jurisdictions in federal court forcing states to clean up voting rolls. Even Obama judges are reluctantly having to order SoS offices to comply because the law is clear with no wiggle room.

You can also participate at the local level by joining local groups and challenging absentee ballots being sent to non residential addresses as invalid voter registrations which create a paper record forcing localities to address that or be sued in federal court under HAVA.

Removing Ronna and her useless excuses for workers is also important because the RNC has the legal standing in a lot of cases for election lawfare that individuals simply do not.

Even playing funny games with Dominion is unlikely to go well as once attention is on things like network logs, data transmissions, etc. then it makes fraud more obvious

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (PkS4e)

315 Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:06 PM (E78bp)

----------------

BTW thanks for that link yesterday to the NPR interviewer with Ivan Raiklin -- a good & hopeful read, and hope it comes to more than mere wishcasting (even inspired my updated nic as you can see).

For those who missed it:

https://tinyurl.com/3psz53az

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (+C7Io)

316 They're *still* trying with Monkeypox. My local news channel ran a scare piece earlier this week (or last week, I don't remember) on some new form of hypermonkeypox that will *definitely* get you this time!

Only because taking it in the ass from a homo will become mandatory in the near future.

Posted by: Poxey monkeys at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (Wc83a)

317 How many folks do you know that are having buttsex with strangers? I'd have to say my number trends to zero.
Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (C26rB)
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I strongly suspect it's a small number, possibly zero. I don't make it a point to interrogate acquaintances about their sex lives, but it seems unlikely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (d04cU)

318
So they wanted to get into his pants?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (ynpvh)



He was more than willing to allow it.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

319 They're *still* trying with Monkeypox. My local news channel ran a scare piece earlier this week (or last week, I don't remember) on some new form of hypermonkeypox that will *definitely* get you this time!
__________________

But only if you queer off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (YqDXo)

320 314 Removing Ronna and her useless excuses for workers is also important because the RNC has the legal standing in a lot of cases for election lawfare that individuals simply do not.

Even playing funny games with Dominion is unlikely to go well as once attention is on things like network logs, data transmissions, etc. then it makes fraud more obvious
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:14 PM (PkS4e)

========

I really, really want this all to be true.

I really, really want it to be effective.

However, my cycnicism is *reaches very high*.

*very high*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (cD1dp)

321 At 29, I'm old enough to remember ripped jeans in the 80s.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (CjgNg)

322 Anyone waatch the SpaceX launch from Vandenberg early this AM? There's another tonight:
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-62 - SLC-40 -
Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live

Launch Date: May 22, 2024 (EDT)
Launch Time: 10:33 p.m. EDT
(0233 UTC, 04:33 CEST May 23)
Launch Window: Opens 10:33 p.m. EDT - Closes 2:33 a.m. EDT May 23.

https://www.youtube.com/live/QkRsdmok1oI

Posted by: Ciampino - Reach for the sky at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (qfLjt)

323 It's fine if the rips came about naturally. It's the pre-ripped stuff that the chicks wear in public that I find offensivestupid.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (v6JzV)
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Edited for accuracy.

Posted by: President Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (krQz2)

324 190 This brunette is voting for Trump because after a few years of Brandon's economy, she can no longer afford to replace her tattered clothing:
http://tiny.cc/tn87yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM

--

Has she considered taking it off and leaving it off? That's an option.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (wzAuc)

325 On election day, go to the voting station at which you're registered (check your voter registration status to find out where you're registered).
Show your green, bar-coded, Voter ID book or a temporary identification certificate to the voting officer.
The voting officer checks that your name appears on the voters' roll. If you are not on the voters' roll, but have proof that you have registered (e.g. registration sticker), the Presiding Officer must validate your proof of registration. If he/she is satisfied with the proof, you must complete a form and will then be allowed to continue as an ordinary voter.
Once the voting officer is satisfied that you have the correct ID, are a registered voter and have not already voted, your name is marked off the roll, your ID is stamped on the second page and your thumbnail is inked.
The voting officer stamps the back of the official ballot papers and gives it to you.
Take your ballot sheet to an empty ballot booth, mark the ballot paper, fold it so that your choice isn't visible and place the ballot paper in the ballot box.

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (RHGPo)

326 Did the Navy ever get rid of their bell-bottoms?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (ynpvh)

Bell bottoms?

No wonder old navy guys are always talking about ringing in the ears.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (dGCAG)

327 However, my cycnicism is *reaches very high*.

*very high*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (cD1dp)
----------------------

Wow, yep, that's way up there.

Posted by: Tom Cruise at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (tT6L1)

328 What's most disturbing is we really should be leading across the board by double digits. Republican Party is really going to need to do some retooling if the worst President in the last 40 years is basically within the margin of error.

I know everyone wants to blame "fraud" for why Republicans dont win every single election, but our issues are showing up in polling. Even with a major headwind with Dems having the worst candidate in the last 100 years, it's a horserace.

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (cFqz1)

329 313 The Donks will pull the lever/print ballots for Harris if they're told to. Set aside these silly notions of her not being liked.

Joe wasn't liked either until he got the nod. He was a racist groping old creepy guy that even Jon Stewart made fun of. He was the butt of everyone's jokes.

Until he got the nod. Now he's The Best EVAR!!!
Posted by: McLurkerson

Parties and voters don't really act like that. It is just that in most cases, the less wealthy view Gubmint as big daddy with a wallet in normal times. Inflation though is making Big Daddy's money worthless and bringing in new faces to share in the looting of the taxpayer is not exactly popular from the older gimme dats.

The older established gimme dats are the ones that run the fraud at the ground level. They sit on their ass and Dems lose--it is as simple as that.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (PkS4e)

330 305 They're *still* trying with Monkeypox. My local news channel ran a scare piece earlier this week (or last week, I don't remember) on some new form of hypermonkeypox that will *definitely* get you this time!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (d04cU)

How many folks do you know that are having buttsex with strangers? I'd have to say my number trends to zero.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (C26rB)

My wife's aunt was so worried she asked my wife if she should get the M-Vax; I told my wife that If her aunt thought she needed the vax, I didn't want to know what kinds of kinky sex she was into...
It was just all the hype.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

331 It's a push-poll, pushing Kamala.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (RIvkX)

332 Old medical phrase:
GOMERs don't die, they just go to ground.

*GOMER = get out of my emergency room
*ground = the floor
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (w9Wax)

British ER doctors have a notation for disposition of non-emergency patients who show up and don't actually need emergency medical treatment: PRATFO

Patient Reassured And Told to Fuck Off

Posted by: Right jolly, old chap at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (Wc83a)

333 She was at Cannes with blonde hair red dress

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (fRFTM)

334 I really despise cut off jeans, especially on men. They look hokie

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (NtVYv)

335 However, my cycnicism is *reaches very high*.

*very high*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (cD1dp)
---
Your cynicism can ride all the rides.

Posted by: President Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (krQz2)

336 He was more than willing to allow it.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

=====

I mean, are there any high school boys who aren't?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

337 I really despise cut off jeans, especially on men. They look hokie
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (NtVYv)

======

Cut off jeans on men look faggy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

338 If I really wanted to know how Kamala is polling...

Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (gf6mn)

339 =====

I mean, are there any high school boys who aren't?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)



I wouldn't know. Never had such offers.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

340 Seeing at Legalinsurrection.com Sundowner is paying college students 7.7Billion dollar bribe to vote for him

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (fwDg9)

341 https://images.app.goo.gl/YCu57z4dzC9WjF4p9

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (fRFTM)

342 321 At 29, I'm old enough to remember ripped jeans in the 80s.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 22, 2024 03:16 PM (CjgNg)
----
Yes and I remember the jokes:
Bride is late to the church. Why? Her new blue jeans are in the wash again as they haven't faded enough yet.

Posted by: Ciampino - Reach for the sky & be spry at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (qfLjt)

343 *documented cases of literally hundreds of thousands of ballots in "purple states" over the past two election cycles each*

Damn...the Democrats are just so strong at elections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (cD1dp)

344 Cut off jeans on men look faggy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

Yes

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (NtVYv)

345 Speaking of Hunter, with 3 of his exes testifying against him in his gun trial ought to be a hoot. They are testifying to his drug use. I believe that I read that Hallie Biden also did drugs with Hunter. I wonder if she will admit to that in court. Hallie was probably just distraught over Beau's multiple deaths.

Posted by: Cheri at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (oiNtH)

346 ======

Cut off jeans on men look faggy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)



Odds on Doof wearing cut off jeans to the TxMoMe just rose 10 points.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)

347 Anybody voting for RFK Jr. should get their hearing checked.

Posted by: wth at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (v0R5T)

348 The Ho isn't running either, unless the DemoMarxists are tossing in the towel and just gone for vote fraud

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (fwDg9)

349 344 Cut off jeans on men look faggy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

Yes
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (NtVYv)

I thought jorts were highly butch.

Posted by: Guess I was wrong at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (Wc83a)

350 /off diminutive sock

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (tT6L1)

351 348 The Ho isn't running either, unless the DemoMarxists are tossing in the towel and just gone for vote fraud
Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (fwDg9)

=========

I mean...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (cD1dp)

352 I have Wrangler Riggs work pants that I patch with fabric cement. 60$/pair, I will wear them for a loooong time.

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (GVUrx)

353 What about the Tortellini option?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (63Dwl)

354 I wore jorts and high top Reeboks in my mullet picture last year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

355 328 What's most disturbing is we really should be leading across the board by double digits. Republican Party is really going to need to do some retooling if the worst President in the last 40 years is basically within the margin of error.

I know everyone wants to blame "fraud" for why Republicans dont win every single election, but our issues are showing up in polling. Even with a major headwind with Dems having the worst candidate in the last 100 years, it's a horserace.
Posted by: Blago
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You won't like the retooling--essentially it is a complete repudiation of the GOP platform since Reagan. No cheap labor, higher taxes on the 20 percent or so investor class, high tariffs, forcing ends to indentured servitude H1B hires, and relinquishing world wide reach by shrinking our active military and its budget. Essentially, a large army needs to become a small cadre force and more money spent on navy and air force for force projection.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (PkS4e)

356 324 190 This brunette is voting for Trump because after a few years of Brandon's economy, she can no longer afford to replace her tattered clothing:
http://tiny.cc/tn87yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 02:55 PM
--
Has she considered taking it off and leaving it off? That's an option.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

This blonde has outgrown her shirt...maybe she should take it off, too?!?
https://tinyurl.com/2s49k2ya

I love Bidenomics!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (zCanN)

357 Only because taking it in the ass from a homo will become mandatory in the near future.
Posted by: Poxey monkeys at May 22, 2024 03:15 PM (Wc83a)
++++
Norm MacDonald has advice for if this happens:
https://youtu.be/zBmIoUO7_Gc?t=476

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (d04cU)

358 346 ======

Cut off jeans on men look faggy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)


Odds on Doof wearing cut off jeans to the TxMoMe just rose 10 points.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)

Crocks are faggy...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (ynpvh)

359 356 This blonde has outgrown her shirt...maybe she should take it off, too?!?
https://tinyurl.com/2s49k2ya

I love Bidenomics!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (zCanN)

========

Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (cD1dp)

360 I know everyone wants to blame "fraud" for why Republicans dont win every single election, but our issues are showing up in polling. Even with a major headwind with Dems having the worst candidate in the last 100 years, it's a horserace.
Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (cFqz1)

check 1. Pretending fraud doesn't exist

check 2. Pretending mass media doesn't exist

check 3. Pretending there's some other Republican that would be doing better in the face of it

What did you miss?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (7aRnr)

361 You can't help but be amazed of the absolute idiocy on the left. It's undefinable:

"Look. If you vote for Biden you get more of the same. Higher prices, foreign turmoil, higher crime, uncertainty, and embarrassment. Oh, and what ever you do don't jump in that barrel of acid over there."

(Leftist waits for you to turn your back and promptly jumps into the barrel of acid)

Posted by: Orson at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (dIske)

362 Odds on Doof wearing cut off jeans to the TxMoMe just rose 10 points.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:19 PM


With a polo shirt, sunglasses....he'll have the young fed look down better than CBD did a couple years ago.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (ZANHd)

363 Crocks are faggy...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (ynpvh)



garrett hardest hit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

364 337 I really despise cut off jeans, especially on men. They look hokie
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (NtVYv)

======

Cut off jeans on men look faggy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)
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Depends on where the cutoff is. Just below the knee is common with poorer fishernen so don't judge.

Posted by: Ciampino - fertilizer quota at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (qfLjt)

365 353 What about the Tortellini option?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (63Dwl)

Well, it's okay. The Ravioli option is good to, so is the Fettucini option.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (ynpvh)

366 Did the Navy ever get rid of their bell-bottoms?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (ynpvh)


Not when I was in it in the 90s. They serve a practical purpose. If you fall into the waters, you can take them off, tie off the ends of the legs, fill them with water, and use them as a flotation device.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:22 PM (v6JzV)

367 356 This blonde has outgrown her shirt...maybe she should take it off, too?!?
https://tinyurl.com/2s49k2ya

I love Bidenomics!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (zCanN)
_______________

Ripped from the pages of Sports Illustrated ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (YqDXo)

368 340 Seeing at Legalinsurrection.com Sundowner is paying college students 7.7Billion dollar bribe to vote for him
Posted by: Skip
======
Curiously though, the 18-34 are moving toward Trump much more than the Boomer generation has been. Buying off one set of voters as seen here pisses off the other so my guess is a net wash.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (PkS4e)

369 This blonde has outgrown her shirt...maybe she should take it off, too?!?

* ^C, ^T *

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar

Hey, waaaiit a minute...

Posted by: Oddbob at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (/y8xj)

370 Only because taking it in the ass from a homo will become mandatory in the near future.
Posted by: Poxey monkeys

It won't be a homo. It'll be a man with a female penis.

Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (PwgSL)

371 337 I really despise cut off jeans, especially on men. They look hokie
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 22, 2024 03:17 PM (NtVYv)

======

Cut off jeans on men look faggy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

Fist bump!

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (vIANe)

372 This blonde has outgrown her shirt...maybe she should take it off, too?!?
https://tinyurl.com/2s49k2ya

I love Bidenomics!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (zCanN)
++++
When did you get the SI subscription?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (d04cU)

373 Here's his picture, Bulgar. I think he must have been saying Mass:

https://tinyurl.com/y4jyw7fw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


OK. I do remember seeing pictures of him now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (v6JzV)

374 The polls are real, if you consider the polls as messages. They want to tell people that Trump is winning, Kamala is worse than Joe, and RFK Jr steals more from Biden than Trump.

WHY they want to tell people that is the question. What are they up to?

Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2024 03:24 PM (DyY8E)

375 Because some of the smarter Deep State factions realize that the US is very brittle right now and likely to spiral into some very unpleasant times with scant ability to figure out who will 'win'.

...
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 02:57 PM (PkS4e)
==
I think there is a faction of the wealthy and powerful that have decided they are going to take on the current ruling faction of the wealthy and powerful, because they have concluded the current faction is dangerous - and bad for business. So we are basically having a wealthy "mob" war. And this time the rest of us have a stake in the outcome.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (GZYu7)

376 What about the Tortellini option?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2024 03:21 PM (63Dwl)


Oh My God, it's full of turtles . . . .

---Dr. Dave Bowman

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (D7oie)

377 Navy got rid of bell bottoms in about 2009. They went to a uniform that looked like a mail man's.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (Ectld)

378 WHY they want to tell people that is the question. What are they up to?
Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2024 03:24 PM (DyY8E)



It doesn't matter who they run. They will manufacture enough ballots to win, no matter what.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (Zz0t1)

379 When did you get the SI subscription?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

They aggregate photos for me, so I don't have to go searching. Complete game changer!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (zCanN)

380 >>> BTW thanks for that link yesterday to the NPR interviewer with Ivan Raiklin -- a good & hopeful read, and hope it comes to more than mere wishcasting (even inspired my updated nic as you can see).

For those who missed it:

https://tinyurl.com/3psz53az
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate
---------------------------

I was shocked. Haven't heard anyone speak so clearly and demonstrably and in command of facts as him. He's a bit heavy on self promotion but when you're independent and dependent on cash flow you've got to get out there.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (E78bp)

381 Cut off jeans on men look faggy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2024 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

Fist bump!
Posted by: CaliGirl


Jorts aren't any better.

And cargo shorts with black socks?

Those guys should be shot on sight

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (MA7rL)

382 She has stretch marks cause getting fit to be a hottie

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (Ladpy)

383 For the record, I like my faded jeans with holes. My husband can't believe they came that way but he's not as fashionable as I am.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (vIANe)

384 At work I get a daily email brief on potential emergencies - infectious disease reports, hurricanes, fires, etc. There was a brief recently about M-Pox where they were talking about the uptick in cases especially in SanFran and NYC. They said the rise in cases is due to people not getting the vaccine.

Um, no. It is due to gay men having group sex, one night stands, and high promiscuity rates among gay men where they put their naughty bits inside another man's naughty bits.

Posted by: Cheri at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (oiNtH)

385 They aggregate photos for me, so I don't have to go searching. Complete game changer!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (zCanN)
++++
Ah. Congratulations on amplifying your efficiency!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (d04cU)

386 LOL. Noted. I've never pretended to not be one of the Dread Millennials.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:12 PM (d04cU)

Some reason I thought you wuz older...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:13 PM (ynpvh)
===

He writes "old"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (RIvkX)

387 V neck tshirts on men are also super faggy

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (MA7rL)

388
Jorts aren't any better.

And cargo shorts with black socks?

Those guys should be shot on sight
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 03:25

Another fist bump! Yes yes yes.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (vIANe)

389 Jorts aren't any better.

And cargo shorts with black socks?

Those guys should be shot on sight
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (MA7rL)
++++
What about cargo shorts with hiking boots?

Posted by: Sensitive 90s Man at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (d04cU)

390 The polls are real, if you consider the polls as messages. They want to tell people that Trump is winning, Kamala is worse than Joe, and RFK Jr steals more from Biden than Trump.

WHY they want to tell people that is the question. What are they up to?
Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2024 03:24 PM (DyY8E)
----
Although they'd never admit it in public, there are some upsides for the Dems if Trump is "allowed" to win. They can foist all the blame for FJB's screwups going forward on Trump, rather than FJB. Then they can continue to use the Deep State to keep Trump from having any measurable effect on the country. Slows down the destruction a bit, but doesn't stop it at all.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (si1C0)

391
Those guys should be shot on sight
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 03:25



*takes off socks*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

392 They HAVE to float this trial balloon because Trump agreed to the debates.

He's inside their OODA loop and he ain't leaving.

The moves just get more and more desperate.

Posted by: Oschisms at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (JQiMb)

393 Anybody voting for RFK Jr. should get their hearing checked.
Posted by: wth at May 22, 2024 03:20 PM (v0R5T)

To be fair, a lot of what he says does get mischaracterized, on purpose.

Personally, I think there are people still stuck in the two-party paradigm, and think he somehow doesn't deserve to be considered honestly.

My thing is simple: He's a classic liberal Democrat, which means even when he's right on issues, and he is right on some, his solution is going to be more government.

It's a fatal flaw in the mindset, one he shares with most of the Republican Party too, but that's another discussion for another day.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (dGCAG)

394 370 Only because taking it in the ass from a homo will become mandatory in the near future.
Posted by: Poxey monkeys

It won't be a homo. It'll be a man with a female penis.

Posted by: Biergood at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (PwgSL)

An everted vagina.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

395 382 She has stretch marks cause getting fit to be a hottie
Posted by: Jamaica

In line with the previous thread, my ladies all know they're 10s, and beautiful at any size.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:27 PM (zCanN)

396 "V neck tshirts on men are also super faggy"

Holy crap. Next you're going to say straight guys aren't allowed to wear heels or sequinned unikitty t-shirts.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 22, 2024 03:28 PM (Ectld)

397 They aggregate photos for me, so I don't have to go searching. Complete game changer!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 22, 2024 03:25 PM (zCanN)
---
AI does have its uses...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 22, 2024 03:28 PM (si1C0)

398 nood border

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 22, 2024 03:28 PM (cD1dp)

399 >>Joe wasn't liked either until he got the nod.

He's still not liked. He's the incumbent president with a fawning media that would make a 3rd world dictator blush with embarrassment and he's getting smoked by a guy who has had nothing but negative press for 7 years and is obviously a Russian agent.

We've lived for so long with rigged elections some are starting to believe that Democrats are just do gash darn popular. They aren't. Very few are fond of $4/gallon gas and 8$/dozen eggs, open borders, crime, wars and all the other bullshit Democrats bring.

Joe went to NH yesterday for a rally and it resembled a funeral home for a vaguely unpopular sanitation worker. If they were so popular they wouldn't have to cheat so much.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 03:29 PM (LkLld)

400 I think tank tops on dudes not at the beach look faggy too.

I have a friend that I cannot understand unless my husband translates what he says. He mumbles. He was on vacay with his wife in Hawaii and wore a tank top into what I believe was a gay bar and he made a friend, the new friend stuck his tongue in my friend's ear and I told him he needs to stop wearing the tank tops, people are getting the wrong idea, NTTAWWT

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:29 PM (vIANe)

401 check 1. Pretending fraud doesn't exist

check 2. Pretending mass media doesn't exist

check 3. Pretending there's some other Republican that would be doing better in the face of it

What did you miss?
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I have no love for the GOP as a party as I consider it brain dead in office for quite some time. But a lot of the GOP problem is that its donor class and their creatures in office want things that the GOP base voter don't. The donor class is fine with trannies, sexual perverts, human trafficking, importing cheap labor when you cannot outsource it, loving on China trade, endless wars, refusing to reform institutions like higher ed, the bureaucracy, the military, the judiciary, and so on.

All the GOP donor class wants is to Invade the World and Invite the World and cheap taxes for them. Plus lots of grift from FedGov.

I despise them and yet I recognized that they have clear majorities in the House and Senate in the GOP caucuses. So, I have turned all of my care and attention to my home patch and don't give much of a damn about politics beyond the local and at times state level.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:29 PM (PkS4e)

402 Clear off 10,000 - 20,000 debt if you vote for Sundowner, 0 if you vote for Trump?

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 03:30 PM (fwDg9)

403 While tempting to bag on Georgia and democrats, I offer three words: Mitch McConnel, Kentucky. There are other three word combo's that also get the point across.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 22, 2024 03:30 PM (Z8Yh2)

404 There was a brief recently about M-Pox where they were talking about the uptick in cases especially in SanFran and NYC.
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You astonish me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

405 383 For the record, I like my faded jeans with holes. My husband can't believe they came that way but he's not as fashionable as I am.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM

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I like this trend because I've gone through the knees of about three pairs of jeans building a huge retaining wall in our backyard. They're perfectly broken in otherwise so I still wear them. Thirty years ago I'd have been mistaken for a bum.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 03:32 PM (wzAuc)

406 The GOP in Congress has done a similar thing by not resisting Biden which is why I dunno about congressional races in 2024.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:08 PM (PkS4e)
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I expect the congressional polling to get closer, as GOP voters are currently being pissed at the GOP in DC leadership and showing it in answers to pollsters. I would bet the Senate will flip, because the dem's map sucks, and the House to have a narrow GOP majority. But I would want better odds to take the GOP house control side of that bet.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 22, 2024 03:32 PM (GZYu7)

407 For the record, I like my faded jeans with holes. My husband can't believe they came that way but he's not as fashionable as I am.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (vIANe)

I'm gonna settle this, so people can stop listening to all the George Wills on this thread: Torn jeans on a woman can be hot... provided the skin that shows through is smooth and tight. If it's bulging through the hole, it's disgusting. If it looks like a football, or the sands of the Gobi desert, then cover it up, lady.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2024 03:33 PM (dGCAG)

408 The first crewed test flight of Boeing's long-delayed Starliner spacecraft won't take off as planned Saturday and could face a longer postponement as engineers evaluate a stubborn leak of helium from the capsule's propulsion system.

... glad I don't own any Boeing stock
Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 03:03 PM (RHGPo)

What is He doing in a propulsion system? That's an inert gas.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 03:33 PM (eoQWY)

409 Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 03:29 PM (LkLld)

It's not so much that Democrats are popular it's that Republicans are unpopular.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 03:34 PM (7aRnr)

410 For the record, I like my faded jeans with holes. My husband can't believe they came that way but he's not as fashionable as I am.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 03:26 PM (vIANe)

I remember when my sisters used to have to cut their own holes and fray them realistically. Now you can buy them pre holed.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 03:35 PM (eoQWY)

411 And I think you are being too limiting in that very, very good point. The junta hasn't burned through its political capital, the entire system - top to bottom and end to end - has done that. The tank is empty. Political capital doesn't really exist anymore, and neither does trust. All that's left is will to power.

Endgame stuff.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2024 03:11 PM (d04cU)
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And as GOP voters begin to realize the "norms" don't mean squat, more GOP candidates who get the message are going to fill up local slots. I think state nullification of fed actions are going to increase. If Biden wins I can see states saying the president doesn't have constitutional authority to do this - so we aren't going to.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 22, 2024 03:35 PM (GZYu7)

412 What is He doing in a propulsion system? That's an inert gas.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 03:33 PM (eoQWY)

Coolant.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2024 03:35 PM (d9fT1)

413 Seeing at Legalinsurrection.com Sundowner is paying college students 7.7Billion dollar bribe to vote for him
Posted by: Skip
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Curiously though, the 18-34 are moving toward Trump much more than the Boomer generation has been. Buying off one set of voters as seen here pisses off the other so my guess is a net wash.
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:23 PM (PkS4e)

When I was that age I would have pocketed the bribe and still voted for Reagan if Carter had tried it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 03:38 PM (eoQWY)

414 All the GOP donor class wants is to Invade the World and Invite the World and cheap taxes for them. Plus lots of grift from FedGov.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:29 PM (PkS4e)

At least back in the days of Rome when your army got wiped out it might take a few Senators and their kids out with it, since they insisted that the elites lead from the front.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 03:39 PM (eoQWY)

415 I think there is a faction of the wealthy and powerful that have decided they are going to take on the current ruling faction of the wealthy and powerful, because they have concluded the current faction is dangerous - and bad for business. So we are basically having a wealthy "mob" war. And this time the rest of us have a stake in the outcome.
Posted by: Black JEM
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Venice and its slide into civil and political warfare among the Guelphs and Ghibbelines comes to mind. The common people were used as footsoldiers for the two parties along with known thugs, etc. John Adams has an interesting historical take on them in his Defense of the Constitutions of the United States series which really should be rated as one of the more important works of the Founders than it is.

Madison gets better press but Adams was more prescient than either Madison or Hamilton.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:40 PM (PkS4e)

416 Admiral Ackbar, you've outdone yourself, I'll never go back.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 22, 2024 03:42 PM (E78bp)

417 At least back in the days of Rome when your army got wiped out it might take a few Senators and their kids out with it, since they insisted that the elites lead from the front.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Yes, lead from behind, do as I say, not as I do, and other such dubious 'virtues' like sexual deviancy and infidelity constitute our ruling class in the West.

But the ancient Greeks predicted that when republics die, it is the fault of the ruling aristos not being able to restrain their appetites.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 03:43 PM (PkS4e)

418 wth: "Anybody voting for RFK Jr. should get their hearing checked."

BurtTC: "To be fair, a lot of what he says does get mischaracterized, on purpose..."

However (mis)characterized, one literally needs to get their hearing checked. I think that's where wth was going. Can a nation survive that gravel on a chalkboard throat scraping for four years?

Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at May 22, 2024 03:52 PM (aXxgO)

419 That Math doesn't make ANY sense...
Margin of error in three of seven states is Three Points.
Margin of error in three of seven states is Four points.
Margin of error in One of seven states is Five points.
But margin of error over all seven it is only ONE point???
Average them it is 3.7%
I have worked in Politics, have NEVER seen any poll with a 1% margin of error...never. Very seldom if ever is there even an actual election with only a 1% margin of error.

Posted by: birdog at May 22, 2024 04:58 PM (+Fkyb)

420 I like the Disney posts. I know, 'Don't be a hater.'

Posted by: Norrin Radd at May 22, 2024 05:19 PM (lY/NM)

421 Did anyone poll the people that count the votes? because those are the people that matter

Posted by: bob in houston at May 22, 2024 05:24 PM (YBLgY)

422 "Didn't they find that in Miami (?) they were not even mailing them ... some ward boss would come around and collect them? It was something illegal like that, but was a long term practice."
What happened was that the DC/NYC/National Dems flew in and took over from the locals in the last several days in the Miami area, they still hosted the annual "Vote Party" get togethers, fed them all breakfast, lunch, or dinner, loaded all of the oldsters from the condo canyons onto busses and drove them en masse to the pols..but... The ballots lines/listings order had been altered, by the local Dem Election chief, and the palm cards the National Dem bigwigs handed out to "Vote by the numbers" had the seniors voting for Buchanan rather than Gore

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