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Dana Bash and Jake Tapper (!!!!!) Will "Moderate" First Debate ?!?!
It is lunacy for Trump to have agreed to this! Madness! CNN isn't even hiding their intent or pretending at moderation by inviting a token Country Club Republican like Hugh Hewitt. It's just a full-on Trump Derangement Syndrome Murderer's Row. Does he want to lose? I hope he at least is on-the-ball enough to bring Jake Tapper's book alleging the 2000 election was stolen and brings it with him and shows it to the cameras when Tapper begins his 60 minute harangue on "election denial:"
So, President Joe Biden puts out a 13-second video challenging Donald Trump to a debate, Trump accepts, and CNN already has it scheduled for June 27. There won't be an audience ... that was one of the Biden camp's demands. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will also be absent, per Biden's demands -- which works out, because co-moderator Jake Tapper has said he would NOT host a town hall with Kennedy because of his lies about vaccines.
Tapper's co-moderator will be Dana Bash ... this Dana Bash:
CNN's Dana Bash claims she's never spoken to a Democrat that's for late-term abortions.
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) August 8, 2023
"I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth." pic.twitter.com/1vviUaV96n
Comments
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I doubt DeSantis would’ve agreed to this.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 12:02 PM (jbnUc)
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The only subject will be Trump's indictments.
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:04 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:05 PM (t/2Uw)
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>>>2 The only subject will be Trump's indictments.
and the finding of liability in the E. Jean Carroll bogus "sexy rape" allegation.
and the finding of liability in the E. Jean Carroll bogus "sexy rape" allegation.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:05 PM (KRtlO)
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Maybe SNL will satirize the debate.
Posted by: mr tmz at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (rJ48h)
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Corgis called
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (yL/az)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
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We will never know who brought Hunter's coke to the Capital Building.
-FBI
-FBI
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>>This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Who among the Newsarati would be better? They're ALL scum, and if we're going to have debates at all with Biden, we're going to have to tolerate the scum. I still feel that it'd be worse for Trump to NOT agree to this than it is to walk into the asylum as it is.
Posted by: American Hawkman at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (skAOD)
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Inquisition.
Posted by: Eromero at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (o2ZRX)
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Then after the debate Trump will whine about his treatment to NYT's Maggie Haberman.
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (xPl2J)
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This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
Posted by: sharon
What's the cope going to be when he gets rhetorically raped on live TV?
This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
Posted by: sharon
What's the cope going to be when he gets rhetorically raped on live TV?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (IG4Id)
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What could possibly go wrong? 😑
Posted by: Archer at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (rskKm)
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"I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth."
They don't really want it, but they must have it. You know, to stick it to the Republicans and show them who is boss.
Just like transsexuality. This shows how much better they are, how virtuous they are, how progressive they are, so they can't give it up.
They don't really want it, but they must have it. You know, to stick it to the Republicans and show them who is boss.
Just like transsexuality. This shows how much better they are, how virtuous they are, how progressive they are, so they can't give it up.
Posted by: PG at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (gQbO4)
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Trump genuinely thinks he can take on Biden and the moderators.
I think he’s dumb for not holding out for some balance but what do I know?
Trump genuinely thinks he can take on Biden and the moderators.
I think he’s dumb for not holding out for some balance but what do I know?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (jbnUc)
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it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
And Trump will return with facts on Biden's failed policies destroying the country.
Like any debate stays on topic, no matter the 'narrator.'
it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
And Trump will return with facts on Biden's failed policies destroying the country.
Like any debate stays on topic, no matter the 'narrator.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)
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So it will be 3 on 1.
Sounds about right the cowards.
President Trump should take it out and smack all three across the face with it.
Sounds about right the cowards.
President Trump should take it out and smack all three across the face with it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (IebSC)
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The Art of the Deal, Yo~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (IG4Id)
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>>>11 Who among the Newsarati would be better? They're ALL scum, and if we're going to have debates at all with Biden, we're going to have to tolerate the scum. I still feel that it'd be worse for Trump to NOT agree to this than it is to walk into the asylum as it is.
Trump did not have to agree to all of Biden's demands. Let me remind you, Trump is ahead. Biden needs the debates to shake up the campaign -- Trump doesn't.
Trump had all the leverage here and decided to surrender to the man with no leverage.
Trump did not have to agree to all of Biden's demands. Let me remind you, Trump is ahead. Biden needs the debates to shake up the campaign -- Trump doesn't.
Trump had all the leverage here and decided to surrender to the man with no leverage.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump is stupid. Vote Biden.
He's the man we need.
Posted by: Sponge
Biden Biden he's our man!
If he can't fuck us, Hunter can!
He's the man we need.
Posted by: Sponge
Biden Biden he's our man!
If he can't fuck us, Hunter can!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (yL/az)
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Trump is so stupid sometimes, honestly.
I'll vote for him, but at this rate of poor decision making, he's now more likely to lose.
He can appoint Kristi Noem his chief of staff and will likely do so, or someone worse.
I'll vote for him, but at this rate of poor decision making, he's now more likely to lose.
He can appoint Kristi Noem his chief of staff and will likely do so, or someone worse.
Posted by: hamitchell at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (kE/nb)
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Look, I'm not saying Trump is playing 4D chess or anything but if you want to continue to show yourself as a sympathetic figure being crushed by an oppressive regime, agreeing to a debate featuring two hostile moderators certainly keeps up with that strategy.
The majority of people already think Trump is being railroaded. This will further that notion.
Not going to say it's a stroke of brilliance or anything, but the optics might work out in Trump's favor far more than having a Tucker Carlson type.
The majority of people already think Trump is being railroaded. This will further that notion.
Not going to say it's a stroke of brilliance or anything, but the optics might work out in Trump's favor far more than having a Tucker Carlson type.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (KbCG3)
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>>>2 The only subject will be Trump's indictments.
and the finding of liability in the E. Jean Carroll bogus "sexy rape" allegation.
And January 6. Special guest moderator for that section will be Luz Cheney
and the finding of liability in the E. Jean Carroll bogus "sexy rape" allegation.
And January 6. Special guest moderator for that section will be Luz Cheney
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (dvzhA)
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13D chess?
Posted by: Archer at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (rskKm)
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (h4Cdp)
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Every tapper asks about the fake rape , Trump should pull out Ashley's diary and read a few passages
Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (6M5v9)
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>>"I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth."
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Bull SHIT
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Bull SHIT
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: anon at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (lDq8n)
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Trump's chomping at the bit to get back on the stage. It might prove to be worthwhile entertainment because its political use is shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)
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I've may have been thinking about the June debate all wrong.
First I thought it was a test for Biden to see if he could change the dynamics of the race. If not, the DNC would pull him at the convention.
My current thinking is the coordination between the HW and Judge Merchan is so deep that they are guaranteeing a conviction and Biden/CNN/Tapper want to hammer Trump over the head with "convicted felon" in a debate, possibly only days after a verdict.
First I thought it was a test for Biden to see if he could change the dynamics of the race. If not, the DNC would pull him at the convention.
My current thinking is the coordination between the HW and Judge Merchan is so deep that they are guaranteeing a conviction and Biden/CNN/Tapper want to hammer Trump over the head with "convicted felon" in a debate, possibly only days after a verdict.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (G0vdT)
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"I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth."
Oregon has legal abortion up to the time of birth, and there is no shortage of local Democratic politicians promising to protect that.
Oregon has legal abortion up to the time of birth, and there is no shortage of local Democratic politicians promising to protect that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (uxCna)
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I hope that Trump at least gets prepped about Jake Tapper's own book alleging the 2000 election was stolen. He should bring the book and hold it in a jacket pocket and show it to the camera when Tapper begins his hour long harangue on election denial.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (KRtlO)
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Out: Any press is good press.
In: Trump is a f*cking stupid moron who has no clue about anything!!!!!
In: Trump is a f*cking stupid moron who has no clue about anything!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's 16D chess!
Posted by: Just here for the spin at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (R4MCD)
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A lot of spinning wheels here I think.
Biden needed debates, Trump didn't so accepting was not a good move...unless...it was a Dem bluff, and Trump called it, hence all the "rules."
Or...
The fix is in with NY and they know the judge will jail Trump before the debate so go ahead and issue the challenge.
Or...the dems know the Biden will be a no show.
Or...Trump is playing to the nation as the continuing victim of a corrupt judiciary.
Or... insert your thoughts here.
Biden needed debates, Trump didn't so accepting was not a good move...unless...it was a Dem bluff, and Trump called it, hence all the "rules."
Or...
The fix is in with NY and they know the judge will jail Trump before the debate so go ahead and issue the challenge.
Or...the dems know the Biden will be a no show.
Or...Trump is playing to the nation as the continuing victim of a corrupt judiciary.
Or... insert your thoughts here.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (W/lyH)
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Kristi Noem will be there to put down the moderators.
Posted by: Archer at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (rskKm)
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Trump has many virtues. But turning the question on the biased questioner isn't one of them. Meatball was much better at that; Gingrich was excellent.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (1bNHn)
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If he hasn’t have agreed to the debate the media would have roasted him worse. This is the lesser of two evils. YMMV
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (17s+e)
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Trump is stupid. Vote Biden.
He's the man we need.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe
Joe Biden, A Man For All People
He's the man we need.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe
Joe Biden, A Man For All People
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (CIS44)
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Too bad Trump didn't go with Univision so he could have a Mexican weather girl on stage with him as translator.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (h4Cdp)
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CNN's Dana Bash claims she's never spoken to a Democrat that's for late-term abortions.
"I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth." pic.twitter.com/1vviUaV96n
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) August 8, 2023
She's never interviewed Hillary Clinton?
"I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth." pic.twitter.com/1vviUaV96n
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) August 8, 2023
She's never interviewed Hillary Clinton?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)
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13
‘ NYT's Maggie Haberman’
He really interviewed with that bitch? Yeah, he’s elevating some pretty poisonous people. Probably, because he knew them personally before he became the left’s hate figure.
‘ NYT's Maggie Haberman’
He really interviewed with that bitch? Yeah, he’s elevating some pretty poisonous people. Probably, because he knew them personally before he became the left’s hate figure.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (jbnUc)
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Debates won't win the election for Trump.
What will win the election is Republican poll-watchers stopping the steal. And it's the only thing that will.
What will win the election is Republican poll-watchers stopping the steal. And it's the only thing that will.
Posted by: creeper at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (cTCuP)
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Trump could have agreed to a debate, but without all the extreme pro-Joe conditions
he has to know this whole thing is geared against him
he has to know this whole thing is geared against him
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (yL/az)
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Is this as bad as McCain suspending his campaign to fix the economy?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (63Dwl)
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it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
And Trump will return with facts on Biden's failed policies destroying the country.
Like any debate stays on topic, no matter the 'narrator.'
Trump's strength is not factual recall, it's showmanship. These "moderators" know this.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
And Trump will return with facts on Biden's failed policies destroying the country.
Like any debate stays on topic, no matter the 'narrator.'
Trump's strength is not factual recall, it's showmanship. These "moderators" know this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (CsUN+)
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Pope to hold press conference on aliens and the supernatural...
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Hopefully, Sully and Mulder are free that day.
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Hopefully, Sully and Mulder are free that day.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 16, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
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Anyone who has not made up their mind months ago would have to have a sub 85 IQ.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (l1/ge)
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40 If he hasn’t have agreed to the debate the media would have roasted him worse. This is the lesser of two evils. YMMV
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (17s+e)
The problem is, both Trump and Biden portray themselves as tough guys. Trump could've easily attempted to goad Biden into accepting less favorable conditions. Instead, Trump planted the flag first and at that point, he basically had to say yes to whatever.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (17s+e)
The problem is, both Trump and Biden portray themselves as tough guys. Trump could've easily attempted to goad Biden into accepting less favorable conditions. Instead, Trump planted the flag first and at that point, he basically had to say yes to whatever.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (KbCG3)
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anyway, see you on the next Trump thread
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (/7KEl)
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Donald wants to play the "everybody is stacked up against me" card, instead of stacking the deck himself.
Stop the pity party dude. Go on offense.
Stop the pity party dude. Go on offense.
Posted by: bskb at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (+gI2R)
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Don't think we need to set our hair on fire just yet.. Joe might stroke out or Trump may be in jail or convicted of a felony... We can always look forward to that
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (Akjoo)
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I wonder if Trump agreed to this so people can see how blatantly bias it will agist him while the mfm will protect Biden by "debating" Trump on Biden's behalf.
I wonder if Trump agreed to this so people can see how blatantly bias it will agist him while the mfm will protect Biden by "debating" Trump on Biden's behalf.
Posted by: Potato Of The United States at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (OgWfa)
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i linked Tapper's book in the article
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (KRtlO)
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10 >>>This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
______
Not at all. He'll ask about insurrection and Russian collusion too.
it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Not at all. He'll ask about insurrection and Russian collusion too.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (1bNHn)
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Unrelated: Capitol Hill police discovered a bag of cocaine in the Capitol Building.
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In unrelated news, Glitch McConnell was seen being evacuated to nearby Bethesda Naval Hospital by a Flight-for-Life helicopter.
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In unrelated news, Glitch McConnell was seen being evacuated to nearby Bethesda Naval Hospital by a Flight-for-Life helicopter.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (h4Cdp)
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51 Anyone who has not made up their mind months ago would have to have a sub 85 IQ.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Well, they watch TV too.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Well, they watch TV too.
Posted by: Dana Bash at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (gKWVE)
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The debate will be three Democrat clowns vs Donald Trump for the whole world to see.
Popcorn futures anyone?
Popcorn futures anyone?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (rYeYI)
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No audience?? Well, CNN should feel right at home.
Posted by: dantesed at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (DHHFk)
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Creepy Pervy won't be there but his stand-in will be one of the animantrobic rats from Chuckie Cheese's... covered with a thousand year old mummy skin.
Nobody would know it's not Joe until you realize he hadn't gone after the little girl back in the 8th row yet.
Nobody would know it's not Joe until you realize he hadn't gone after the little girl back in the 8th row yet.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (riU2q)
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Hi Ace
This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:05 PM (t/2Uw)
Is this a troll socking a regular ?
This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:05 PM (t/2Uw)
Is this a troll socking a regular ?
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (MNhXM)
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"Why would Trump agree to this?"
I explained this yesterday. What choice did Trump have? Biden made this "offer" expecting and hoping that Trump would say no. It was a bluff. Trump called it.
If he didn't, then the media would have universally been screeching that Trump was afraid to debate Biden. (And a lot of comments here would be to the effect that Trump blundered by not calling the bluff.) Any later agreement to debate would be seen as capitulation.
What difference does fighting over the terms mean anyway? No matter what the GOP candidate does, the terms always suck. Always. It's either accept the sucky terms, or don't debate at all.
Oh and I think it's 50/50 that this debate happens at all.
I explained this yesterday. What choice did Trump have? Biden made this "offer" expecting and hoping that Trump would say no. It was a bluff. Trump called it.
If he didn't, then the media would have universally been screeching that Trump was afraid to debate Biden. (And a lot of comments here would be to the effect that Trump blundered by not calling the bluff.) Any later agreement to debate would be seen as capitulation.
What difference does fighting over the terms mean anyway? No matter what the GOP candidate does, the terms always suck. Always. It's either accept the sucky terms, or don't debate at all.
Oh and I think it's 50/50 that this debate happens at all.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
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>>>He really interviewed with that bitch? Yeah, he’s elevating some pretty poisonous people. Probably, because he knew them personally before he became the left’s hate figure.
he was on the phone with her five nights a week. She's a Brand Name, in his world.
he was on the phone with her five nights a week. She's a Brand Name, in his world.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (KRtlO)
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These debates aren't going to happen anyway.......
I will be absolutely shocked if they do. The ONLY way they do is if they're both in separate rooms and Biden is replaced with AI Biden.
I will be absolutely shocked if they do. The ONLY way they do is if they're both in separate rooms and Biden is replaced with AI Biden.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)
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Don't think we need to set our hair on fire just yet.. Joe might stroke out or Trump may be in jail or convicted of a felony... We can always look forward to that
My hair is unpyrolyzed. However, this is an unforced error on Trump's part.
My hair is unpyrolyzed. However, this is an unforced error on Trump's part.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (CsUN+)
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We need a new Saint, responsible for aliens !
*any suggestions...?
*any suggestions...?
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (V13WU)
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Trump boxed himself-in by challenging Slow Joe to a debate 'Anytime, Anywhere!', with zero conditions. Win some, lose some.
Trump can show Slow Joe is a chump but he made his task much harder to achieve by agreeing to two debates controlled by Lap Dog Media clowns. Clowns who will no-doubt ask the questions Team Joe gives them. CNN and ABC won't have to slip the questions to Joe; Joe will slip them the questions he wants posed to both him and OrangeManBad.
Go Trump!
FJB!
Trump can show Slow Joe is a chump but he made his task much harder to achieve by agreeing to two debates controlled by Lap Dog Media clowns. Clowns who will no-doubt ask the questions Team Joe gives them. CNN and ABC won't have to slip the questions to Joe; Joe will slip them the questions he wants posed to both him and OrangeManBad.
Go Trump!
FJB!
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 12:14 PM (5fDan)
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When these two deep state Moderators keep asking questions about abortion, trans rights and universal health care, all Trump has to do is say is:
“When are we going to talk about the issues the actual voters care about - the economy, inflation, jobs, the crisis at the border, crime and the campus Nazis?”
He will win in a landslide.
“When are we going to talk about the issues the actual voters care about - the economy, inflation, jobs, the crisis at the border, crime and the campus Nazis?”
He will win in a landslide.
Posted by: Czech Chick at May 16, 2024 12:14 PM (I6NNh)
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Watching three people screeching their hatred at Trump may not be the dream scenario the DNC imagines.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2024 12:14 PM (l1/ge)
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50 Pope to hold press conference on aliens and the supernatural...
Well he's probably the human expert on Amal probing so it would make sense.
50 Pope to hold press conference on aliens and the supernatural...
Well he's probably the human expert on Amal probing so it would make sense.
Posted by: Archer at May 16, 2024 12:14 PM (rskKm)
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***t won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims.***
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Jake, I wouldn't F Stormy with your dick.
_Trump
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Jake, I wouldn't F Stormy with your dick.
_Trump
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (lCWOD)
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**...unless St. Joseph of Cupertino wants to take it on...
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (V13WU)
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In unrelated news, Glitch McConnell was seen being evacuated to nearby Bethesda Naval Hospital by a Flight-for-Life helicopter.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (h4Cdp)
Good. Hope they toss him out of it.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (h4Cdp)
Good. Hope they toss him out of it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (IebSC)
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Fun Fact:
Dana Bash's husband was the COS for the CIA.
The Deep State is one gigantic human centipede.
Dana Bash's husband was the COS for the CIA.
The Deep State is one gigantic human centipede.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (JIdXK)
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Possibly Biden will embarrass himself during the debate. Full stop. Wait for applause. Exclamation mark. Continue.
Posted by: PG at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (gQbO4)
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Anyone who has not made up their mind months ago would have to have a sub 85 IQ.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Not everyone is a political junkie, And there are a lot of potential voters that don’t like either candidate.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Not everyone is a political junkie, And there are a lot of potential voters that don’t like either candidate.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (MNhXM)
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There is a small path for Trump to manage the debate terms. His challenge was only "any place, any time". That challenge didn't include "any moderators" or many other terms.
Just brain storming here.
Just brain storming here.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (G0vdT)
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Does Joe pardon Hunter if covicted of his gun charges?
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
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Pope Frankie IS an alien
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (rYeYI)
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Anyone who has not made up their mind months ago would have to have a sub 85 IQ.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (l1/ge)
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+1
[And to reprise my comment from yesterday:]
"Just Circuses on the Titanic.
The "Debates" will have no effect on The Steal 2: Already-in Progress Boogaloo."
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (l1/ge)
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+1
[And to reprise my comment from yesterday:]
"Just Circuses on the Titanic.
The "Debates" will have no effect on The Steal 2: Already-in Progress Boogaloo."
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (h4Cdp)
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City of Kansas City apologizes after doxing Chiefs’ Harrison Butker following faith-based commencement speech
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (wtvvX)
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Out: Any press is good press.
In: Trump is a f*cking stupid moron who has no clue about anything!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge
Out: all doofus Trump talks about is the 2020 steal.
In: egotistical Trump jumps at any opportunity to talk about himself.
In: Trump is a f*cking stupid moron who has no clue about anything!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge
Out: all doofus Trump talks about is the 2020 steal.
In: egotistical Trump jumps at any opportunity to talk about himself.
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (F3Dlr)
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i linked Tapper's book in the article
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (KRtlO)
Thank you for your support!!!
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:12 PM (KRtlO)
Thank you for your support!!!
Posted by: Jake "The Fake" Tapper at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)
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59
‘ Flight-for-Life helicopter.’
To the helicopter pilot: would it be asking too much to open the door and let McConnell roll out?
‘ Flight-for-Life helicopter.’
To the helicopter pilot: would it be asking too much to open the door and let McConnell roll out?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (jbnUc)
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Has Trump confirmed he agreed to this CNN debate?
I mean they wouldn't just roll all this out prematurely would they?
I mean they wouldn't just roll all this out prematurely would they?
Posted by: Inogame at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (53oGX)
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I explained this yesterday. What choice did Trump have? Biden made this "offer" expecting and hoping that Trump would say no.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Bull-fucking shit. He should have released his own requirements last fucking year. Challenge your opponent first, how fucking stupid are you? Holy fuck, this tactics 101. Bullshit top to bottom.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Bull-fucking shit. He should have released his own requirements last fucking year. Challenge your opponent first, how fucking stupid are you? Holy fuck, this tactics 101. Bullshit top to bottom.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (IG4Id)
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Do you subscribe to the shadow debate theory, where Trump's convicted in NY, is scheduled to be booked that day or is restricted from leaving the state, and Biden stands on stage alone?
We're in full banana republic mode (a la mode?) so why not.
We're in full banana republic mode (a la mode?) so why not.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (YIxO9)
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The ONLY way they do is if they're both in separate rooms and Biden is replaced with AI Biden.
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I can see a Biden head talking-glitching like Max Headroom. Joefredo ain’t that far from that right now.
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I can see a Biden head talking-glitching like Max Headroom. Joefredo ain’t that far from that right now.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (17s+e)
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Does Joe pardon Hunter if covicted of his gun charges?
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
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Joe will pardon Hunter from all past and future crimes.
I mean, who would stop him?
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
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Joe will pardon Hunter from all past and future crimes.
I mean, who would stop him?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (h4Cdp)
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Debates do not change minds. Everyone who hates Trump will still hate Trump no matter how well he does or doesn't do. Everyone who thinks Biden is a blithering idiot will still think he is a blithering idiot no matter if he wanders off the stage during the debate or if we get dark Brandon.
Biden is IS a blithering idiot who has brought the country to the brink of disaster and no debate is going to change that.
Biden is IS a blithering idiot who has brought the country to the brink of disaster and no debate is going to change that.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (JIdXK)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (dvzhA)
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I explained this yesterday. What choice did Trump have? Biden made this "offer" expecting and hoping that Trump would say no.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Bull-fucking shit. He should have released his own requirements last fucking year. Challenge your opponent first, how fucking stupid are you? Holy fuck, this tactics 101. Bullshit top to bottom.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (IG4Id
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CRY MORE
Posted by: Elric Blade
Bull-fucking shit. He should have released his own requirements last fucking year. Challenge your opponent first, how fucking stupid are you? Holy fuck, this tactics 101. Bullshit top to bottom.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (IG4Id
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CRY MORE
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (iFTx/)
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Of course Trump agreed : "Shortly after the Biden campaign had announced that they would consider invitations from news organizations seeking to host the debates, Mr. Biden posted on X that he had accepted an invitation from CNN for a debate with Mr. Trump on June 27 in Atlanta.
“Over to you, Donald. As you said: anywhere, any time, any place,” Mr. Biden wrote.
Mr. Trump quickly responded, telling Fox News Digital that he would “be there” and was “looking forward to being in beautiful Atlanta.”
“Over to you, Donald. As you said: anywhere, any time, any place,” Mr. Biden wrote.
Mr. Trump quickly responded, telling Fox News Digital that he would “be there” and was “looking forward to being in beautiful Atlanta.”
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (V13WU)
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DJT in a closed and locked theatre with a chainsaw, against two media whores and a guy with a full diaper.
Somebody gonna get cut up.
Somebody gonna get cut up.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (MkuC5)
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Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
No you present your own terms when you accept . You put the ball back in their court,
Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.
No you present your own terms when you accept . You put the ball back in their court,
Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (MNhXM)
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On a first order approximation, I get why this seems stupid for Trump to do. But I wonder if he's got some specific plan to combat the moderators. Biden absolutely cannot think on his feet, so all Trump needs to do is to get him off the script that the moderators intend to provide.
I guess I'm less pessimistic than Ace on this one. What Trump's got in his favor is he absolutely knows he's walking into a trap, so if he's got some way to neutralize it, this could be fatal to Biden's campaign.
I guess I'm less pessimistic than Ace on this one. What Trump's got in his favor is he absolutely knows he's walking into a trap, so if he's got some way to neutralize it, this could be fatal to Biden's campaign.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (B9Prs)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (IG4Id)
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After more than three billion doses (not in the US), the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is being withdrawn.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (RHGPo)
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Trump did not have to agree to all of Biden's demands. Let me remind you, Trump is ahead. Biden needs the debates to shake up the campaign -- Trump doesn't.
Trump had all the leverage here and decided to surrender to the man with no leverage.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO
You think playing like he's ahead is the SMART play? Because of "polling" six months out? I know you won't like me saying this but Hillary trusted the polls and played like she was ahead, too.
Whatever else you think Trump may be doing wrong, playing like you're ahead when you're not the incumbent and the global media is aligned against you is NOT the smart play.
Trump had all the leverage here and decided to surrender to the man with no leverage.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO
You think playing like he's ahead is the SMART play? Because of "polling" six months out? I know you won't like me saying this but Hillary trusted the polls and played like she was ahead, too.
Whatever else you think Trump may be doing wrong, playing like you're ahead when you're not the incumbent and the global media is aligned against you is NOT the smart play.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (8ebbP)
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CRY MORE
Posted by: Elric Blade
Child.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (IG4Id)
_________
CHUD
Posted by: Elric Blade
Child.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (IG4Id)
_________
CHUD
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
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Also, I didn't watch the 2nd debate in 2020. Some folks are saying that Trump melted down a second time against Biden, but everyone I know who saw it told me that Trump owned Biden
It was so late in the cycle and so many ballots had been manufactured it was a lost cause.
It was so late in the cycle and so many ballots had been manufactured it was a lost cause.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (YIxO9)
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I hope the SS has enough sense to shakedown Jack for weapons before Trump comes out. And chain both legs to floor to keep him from lunging.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (riU2q)
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""I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth."
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Bull SHIT
Posted by: Don Black"
Well, that's the thing. Most of them would never admit it in so many words up front because they know full well it makes them sound like monsters.
But if you ask them questions about specifically what restrictions they would allow, they won't agree to any of them.
A reasonable, logical person would then conclude that they are in favor of abortion-on-demand up to birth. But, again, that makes them sound like monsters, and they know it.
They're good people, therefore they can't be monsters, so that leaves them with the choice of either not admitting that that's exactly what they want in those words (it's saying the exact words that makes it true) or they have to convince themselves that what they want is a good thing and not monstrous at all.
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Bull SHIT
Posted by: Don Black"
Well, that's the thing. Most of them would never admit it in so many words up front because they know full well it makes them sound like monsters.
But if you ask them questions about specifically what restrictions they would allow, they won't agree to any of them.
A reasonable, logical person would then conclude that they are in favor of abortion-on-demand up to birth. But, again, that makes them sound like monsters, and they know it.
They're good people, therefore they can't be monsters, so that leaves them with the choice of either not admitting that that's exactly what they want in those words (it's saying the exact words that makes it true) or they have to convince themselves that what they want is a good thing and not monstrous at all.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (ou9hh)
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..think of it this way, Trump can always say that pre conditions (whatever they are) were not met were and he is not participating
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (V13WU)
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Meh, an early debate is unlikely to do much to move the needle either way but it will give the political pundits orgasms to talk about it endlessly.
The election is still likely to come down (aside from cheating) to a referendum on the current administration. For the most part, any 'bad' information about Trump is already baked into the cake which reduces any downside (but also any upside) to a debate. For Biden, a good performance will not quell unease about his mental and physical wellbeing nor will it reverse inflation, possible loss of Ukraine too, and other hideous unpopular Democrat initiatives.
So spazz away about the debate--Trump's judgment, etc.
Still leaves us in a hole of the Biden junta's making and hides the fact that Ukraine is collapsing and Europe is teetering. The recent couple of attempted assassinations in Euroland always leads to more violence. The left is losing in Euroland and them losing their shit will cause more political violence there.
Same thing in Latin America land--the great lefty takeovers in Chile, Brazil, and Colombia are leading to repudiation by the economic devastation that the lefties inevitably bring about.
The election is still likely to come down (aside from cheating) to a referendum on the current administration. For the most part, any 'bad' information about Trump is already baked into the cake which reduces any downside (but also any upside) to a debate. For Biden, a good performance will not quell unease about his mental and physical wellbeing nor will it reverse inflation, possible loss of Ukraine too, and other hideous unpopular Democrat initiatives.
So spazz away about the debate--Trump's judgment, etc.
Still leaves us in a hole of the Biden junta's making and hides the fact that Ukraine is collapsing and Europe is teetering. The recent couple of attempted assassinations in Euroland always leads to more violence. The left is losing in Euroland and them losing their shit will cause more political violence there.
Same thing in Latin America land--the great lefty takeovers in Chile, Brazil, and Colombia are leading to repudiation by the economic devastation that the lefties inevitably bring about.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (8QJ54)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 16, 2024 12:19 PM (L/fGl)
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Ace,
How dare you? Don’t you know Trump is always playing 17-D chess? it will be the most incredible fantastic debate ever. You won’t believe how good it will be.
How dare you? Don’t you know Trump is always playing 17-D chess? it will be the most incredible fantastic debate ever. You won’t believe how good it will be.
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Do you subscribe to the shadow debate theory, where Trump's convicted in NY, is scheduled to be booked that day or is restricted from leaving the state, and Biden stands on stage alone?
We're in full banana republic mode (a la mode?) so why not.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (YIxO9)
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The ultimate absurdity I now wish to see in our banana-in-the-tailpipe republic:
Come November 5th:
. one candidate is in prison; and
. the other Didn't Kill Himself a day or two before.
We're in full banana republic mode (a la mode?) so why not.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (YIxO9)
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The ultimate absurdity I now wish to see in our banana-in-the-tailpipe republic:
Come November 5th:
. one candidate is in prison; and
. the other Didn't Kill Himself a day or two before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (h4Cdp)
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This is getting nasty. Be back later
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (Akjoo)
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Maybe one of those dog training collars but set up with a near lethal charge.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (riU2q)
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>>> 84 City of Kansas City apologizes after doxing Chiefs' Harrison Butker following faith-based commencement speech
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)
Whoops! Whoopsie!!
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)
Whoops! Whoopsie!!
Posted by: City of Kansas City at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (llON8)
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Trapper's first question to Trump
Trapper: "Donnie, do you think you are going enjoy anal sex when you are in prison?"
Trapper: "Donnie, do you think you are going enjoy anal sex when you are in prison?"
Posted by: Lost in Space at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (k13a0)
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It's as if the democrats are doing everything in their power to force Trump to refuse to debate joe biden, things that make you go hmmm.........
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (QNSds)
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No one will be watching the debates. They will find out who "won" by checking with their news media of choice. The lefty media crowd will find out Biden won, as they totally expected. The righty media crowd will find out that Trump won bigly as they totally expected.
Who the moderators are will be completely immaterial to the outcome.
Who the moderators are will be completely immaterial to the outcome.
Posted by: Just Lily at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (vivhj)
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>>> "I have not talked to a Democrat who wants abortion-on-demand til time of birth."
They don't really want it, but they must have it. You know, to stick it to the Republicans and show them who is boss.
Just like transsexuality. This shows how much better they are, how virtuous they are, how progressive they are, so they can't give it up.
Posted by: PG at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (gQbO4)
Also, democrats employ cultish control methods, like those of African warlords where you coerce people into committing barbarous inhuman acts which isolate them from civilization and make them more dependent on the support of and allegiance to the cult.
They don't really want it, but they must have it. You know, to stick it to the Republicans and show them who is boss.
Just like transsexuality. This shows how much better they are, how virtuous they are, how progressive they are, so they can't give it up.
Posted by: PG at May 16, 2024 12:07 PM (gQbO4)
Also, democrats employ cultish control methods, like those of African warlords where you coerce people into committing barbarous inhuman acts which isolate them from civilization and make them more dependent on the support of and allegiance to the cult.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (Y6IkP)
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Trump is a fool or out of touch with reality. Neither is a good look,
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (Y6Wgg)
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"Trump, the victim" seems to be his strategy.
Posted by: toddg at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (AXJ6N)
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I don’t think you win voters over in a debate but you can turn them off.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (17s+e)
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No audience ... I wonder if there will be a delay, so they can censor both Trump's strong points and Biden's goofs.
Only "good" reason for going into the enemy's den?
Well, maybe this gets Trump a wider viewing by the middle he needs to win over.
Maybe he thinks viewers will realize how unfairly he is treated, as they have seen will all the prosecutions?
But yeah, Biden needed the shake up, and he needed it to be a completely unfair setting. Crazy.
Only "good" reason for going into the enemy's den?
Well, maybe this gets Trump a wider viewing by the middle he needs to win over.
Maybe he thinks viewers will realize how unfairly he is treated, as they have seen will all the prosecutions?
But yeah, Biden needed the shake up, and he needed it to be a completely unfair setting. Crazy.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (Cus5s)
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Borrowing to pay for college is about to get more expensive: The interest rate on new federal student loans for undergraduates during the upcoming 2024-25 academic year will be the highest in 12 years. The federal student loan interest rate will be 6.53% for undergraduate students, up from 5.5% for the current year.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM (RHGPo)
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wonder if he's got some specific plan to combat the moderators. Biden absolutely cannot think on his feet, so all Trump needs to do is to get him off the script that the moderators intend to provide.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (B9Prs)
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The moderators will answer the questions for Biden and call any Trump answer as "disinformation".
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (B9Prs)
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The moderators will answer the questions for Biden and call any Trump answer as "disinformation".
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (G0vdT)
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I wouldn't worry about the debate's, we haven't had a real debate in decades, plus, debates don't really matter, the idea that debates alter the trajectory of elections is speculative at best.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (JIdXK)
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Trump has to play the game as if there will be a debate, but there's no way it's actually going to happen. Biden needs every card in his favor to have a prayer and some of those cards will be so outrageous it will be easy to end up with a deadlock.
So I'm not setting my hair on fire at anything which happens. It's all theater.
Trump has to play the game as if there will be a debate, but there's no way it's actually going to happen. Biden needs every card in his favor to have a prayer and some of those cards will be so outrageous it will be easy to end up with a deadlock.
So I'm not setting my hair on fire at anything which happens. It's all theater.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (RKVpM)
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (V13WU)
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>>> 82 Pope Frankie IS an alien
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (rYeYI)
Maybe, but he is *not* really the pope.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (rYeYI)
Maybe, but he is *not* really the pope.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (llON8)
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"Also, democrats employ cultish control methods, like those of African warlords where you coerce people into committing barbarous inhuman acts which isolate them from civilization and make them more dependent on the support of and allegiance to the cult."
That too.
That too.
Posted by: PG at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (gQbO4)
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>>>So spazz away about the debate--Trump's judgment, etc.
I know, Trump is 19th-dimensional Brain Jedi and he must never, ever be questioned. He always knows the right thing to do, like not suing the state of PA for changing election rules *before* the election, and we must all scruntinize his decisions only to understand better how perfect and brilliant they all are.
I know, Trump is 19th-dimensional Brain Jedi and he must never, ever be questioned. He always knows the right thing to do, like not suing the state of PA for changing election rules *before* the election, and we must all scruntinize his decisions only to understand better how perfect and brilliant they all are.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (KRtlO)
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84 City of Kansas City apologizes after doxing Chiefs’ Harrison Butker following faith-based commencement speech
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)
The NFL didn’t apologize after condemning him. I don’t understand how anyone on the Right can still watch the NFL.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)
The NFL didn’t apologize after condemning him. I don’t understand how anyone on the Right can still watch the NFL.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (96z/x)
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (AwYPR)
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Some people are missing that bone in their head that should tell them to STOP! This poor decision will not be good for you in the long run.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (aFNOf)
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Last week: Trump is going to wipe the floor with Biden. I can’t wait
Now: Cone to think of it the debates don’t really matter
Now: Cone to think of it the debates don’t really matter
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:13 PM (iFTx/)
No you present your own terms when you accept . You put the ball back in their court,
Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (MNhXM)
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Usually true, yes. But only when the other side has a real interest in accepting terms. When they don't, then there is no countering. The other side will take their marbles and go home.
If anyone thinks that Biden would have accepted any counter by Trump, or even entertained any counter, then I don't know what to tell you.
Trump wants a debate. Biden doesn't. 90% of the people here last week were sure that no debate would happen at all. Now there supposedly will be. Supposedly. We'll see.
No you present your own terms when you accept . You put the ball back in their court,
Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (MNhXM)
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Usually true, yes. But only when the other side has a real interest in accepting terms. When they don't, then there is no countering. The other side will take their marbles and go home.
If anyone thinks that Biden would have accepted any counter by Trump, or even entertained any counter, then I don't know what to tell you.
Trump wants a debate. Biden doesn't. 90% of the people here last week were sure that no debate would happen at all. Now there supposedly will be. Supposedly. We'll see.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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Trump is a stupid doodyhead who said pussy.
Biden is better because he's spent his entire life in DC and knows how to play the games. He's the man we need.
Vote Biden FTW.
Biden is better because he's spent his entire life in DC and knows how to play the games. He's the man we need.
Vote Biden FTW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
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123 I don’t think you win voters over in a debate but you can turn them off.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
*bug eyed cackling*
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
*bug eyed cackling*
Posted by: Hillary! at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (gKWVE)
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Biden has debts of up to $815,000...and no one bought his books last year, financial records show
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (RHGPo)
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it was wrong of me to say that Trump's decision to surrender to Biden was a poor judgment. I must never question Trump, only praise his multiphasic genius.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (KRtlO)
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Biden has less brain to work with in the 2024 debate compared to the 2020 debate.
Biden has less brain to work with in the 2024 debate compared to the 2020 debate.
Posted by: Potato Of The United States at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (OgWfa)
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Trump did not have to agree to all of Biden's demands. Let me remind you, Trump is ahead. Biden needs the debates to shake up the campaign -- Trump doesn't.
Trump had all the leverage here and decided to surrender to the man with no leverage.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)
When I watched W's press conferences, I would cringe waiting for the moment that he would make a verbal slip-up. Trump has never - never - done that. He's had years of extemporaneous speaking experience at the WH. They had to preempt his C-19 conferences with Andy Cuomo because he was doing so well with a hostile crowd.
This isn't 2020. He knows what to expect, and he's going in as the publicly perceived victim. The optics of a 2.5-on-1 will be there for all to see. He doesn't need an audience there (it's a distraction anyway). He doesn't need RFKJ there. He navigated a debate where they seeded the crowd with women (the Welker debate) and he was fine.
I'm not concerned about this at all.
Trump had all the leverage here and decided to surrender to the man with no leverage.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)
When I watched W's press conferences, I would cringe waiting for the moment that he would make a verbal slip-up. Trump has never - never - done that. He's had years of extemporaneous speaking experience at the WH. They had to preempt his C-19 conferences with Andy Cuomo because he was doing so well with a hostile crowd.
This isn't 2020. He knows what to expect, and he's going in as the publicly perceived victim. The optics of a 2.5-on-1 will be there for all to see. He doesn't need an audience there (it's a distraction anyway). He doesn't need RFKJ there. He navigated a debate where they seeded the crowd with women (the Welker debate) and he was fine.
I'm not concerned about this at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (IG4Id)
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My current thinking is the coordination between the HW and Judge Merchan is so deep that they are guaranteeing a conviction and Biden/CNN/Tapper want to hammer Trump over the head with "convicted felon" in a debate, possibly only days after a verdict.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (G0vdT)
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In addition, Biden WH might have intel that a couple of SCOTUS decisions will be in Trumps favor so get the debate done before the decisions are released.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (G0vdT)
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In addition, Biden WH might have intel that a couple of SCOTUS decisions will be in Trumps favor so get the debate done before the decisions are released.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (G0vdT)
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No one will be watching the debates. They will find out who "won" by checking with their news media of choice. The lefty media crowd will find out Biden won, as they totally expected. The righty media crowd will find out that Trump won bigly as they totally expected.
Who the moderators are will be completely immaterial to the outcome.
Posted by: Just Lily at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM
Come on man, everyone knows that joe biden won the debates.
Who the moderators are will be completely immaterial to the outcome.
Posted by: Just Lily at May 16, 2024 12:21 PM
Come on man, everyone knows that joe biden won the debates.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (QNSds)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (jbnUc)
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Last week: Trump is going to wipe the floor with Biden. I can’t wait
Now: Cone to think of it the debates don’t really matter
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Y6Wgg)
Please. Enlighten the class on when the presidential debates had an effect on the election whatsoever.
Now: Cone to think of it the debates don’t really matter
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Y6Wgg)
Please. Enlighten the class on when the presidential debates had an effect on the election whatsoever.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (Y6Wgg)
Could you please stop? We get it. In every thread about Trump you remark what an awful person and candidate he is. You've been doing this for months. It's boringly redundant. You are changing nobody's mind.
Could you please stop? We get it. In every thread about Trump you remark what an awful person and candidate he is. You've been doing this for months. It's boringly redundant. You are changing nobody's mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
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The moderators will answer the questions for Biden and call any Trump answer as "disinformation".
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (G0vdT)
And you're certain that a response of something like "I'm sorry, which of the three people in this room am I running against?" wouldn't play well against that sort of tactic?
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (G0vdT)
And you're certain that a response of something like "I'm sorry, which of the three people in this room am I running against?" wouldn't play well against that sort of tactic?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (B9Prs)
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Whatever U.S. Elites Are Defending In Ukraine, It Isn’t Democracy
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (RHGPo)
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it was wrong of me to say that Trump's decision to surrender to Biden was a poor judgment. I must never question Trump, only praise his multiphasic genius.
For some reason, I doubt your sincerity.
For some reason, I doubt your sincerity.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)
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A reasonable, logical person would then conclude that they are in favor of abortion-on-demand up to birth. But, again, that makes them sound like monsters, and they know it.
The Dem base has been getting closer to just admitting they work for Satan. There have been protest signs like "Satan respects pronouns!" But the elected oldsters aren't quite ready for that yet.
The Dem base has been getting closer to just admitting they work for Satan. There have been protest signs like "Satan respects pronouns!" But the elected oldsters aren't quite ready for that yet.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (2ocoG)
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142 it was wrong of me to say that Trump's decision to surrender to Biden was a poor judgment. I must never question Trump, only praise his multiphasic genius.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (KRtlO)
There you go.
142 it was wrong of me to say that Trump's decision to surrender to Biden was a poor judgment. I must never question Trump, only praise his multiphasic genius.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (KRtlO)
There you go.
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Why do all the people who call Trump an idiot and stupid etc think the *only* alternative is Trump being a Godly Master of Everything? I don't understand it.
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
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145 CHUD
Posted by: Elric Blade
You've just outed yourself, commie. Amazing how simple this is.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (IG4Id)
Oooh, sorry. The correct answer was, "CHOAD."
Posted by: Elric Blade
You've just outed yourself, commie. Amazing how simple this is.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (IG4Id)
Oooh, sorry. The correct answer was, "CHOAD."
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (KbCG3)
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FJB has hit all the HUGE donors for now.
Congress is upping domestic spending for votes and the Executive Branch preparing its FY 2025 budget. Heh.
Joe's pocket (Pennsylvania) is already being prepped for the worse: PENNLIVE Opinion, May 16, 2024
'The price of rebuilding Ukraine goes up each day − but shirking the bill will cost even more | The Conversation'
But FJB gets 6 weeks of index cards of questions, pat answers with a dash of anger, and practice before his clan and White House team. And, all the while, the U.S. Jr. ICC unit grinds away at Trump & the uniparty keeps rolling.
Don't see the 1st debate as winning, and the second will be held while components of the Fed 2025 budget are undergoing approval. 🤷♀️
(But I could easily be wrong, too.)
Congress is upping domestic spending for votes and the Executive Branch preparing its FY 2025 budget. Heh.
Joe's pocket (Pennsylvania) is already being prepped for the worse: PENNLIVE Opinion, May 16, 2024
'The price of rebuilding Ukraine goes up each day − but shirking the bill will cost even more | The Conversation'
But FJB gets 6 weeks of index cards of questions, pat answers with a dash of anger, and practice before his clan and White House team. And, all the while, the U.S. Jr. ICC unit grinds away at Trump & the uniparty keeps rolling.
Don't see the 1st debate as winning, and the second will be held while components of the Fed 2025 budget are undergoing approval. 🤷♀️
(But I could easily be wrong, too.)
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (NFX2v)
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>>> 133
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The NFL didn't apologize after condemning him. I don’t understand how anyone on the Right can still watch the NFL.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (MNhXM)
But they had a giant flag and country star Reba McEntire sang the anthem at the latest Superb Owl!
(Reba, who earlier had made some stupid ass remark in support of "trans" "rights")
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The NFL didn't apologize after condemning him. I don’t understand how anyone on the Right can still watch the NFL.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:22 PM (MNhXM)
But they had a giant flag and country star Reba McEntire sang the anthem at the latest Superb Owl!
(Reba, who earlier had made some stupid ass remark in support of "trans" "rights")
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (llON8)
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It's a shame Karl Marx is dead, he would be another good moderator
Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (CSSPV)
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Please. Enlighten the class on when the presidential debates had an effect on the election whatsoever.
Nixon v. Kennedy
Nixon v. Kennedy
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (CsUN+)
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Tapper and Bash take a big risk if they are planning on haranguing Trump regarding the indictments. Trump will hit back hard and bring up Biden's many crooked deeds, his son's crooked deeds and lifestyle, etc. if they try to cut him off he will fight back as he has in the past. He will also bring up the mainstream media's obvious biased reporting and the public's distrust of the media while they continue circling the drain.
Be careful of what you wish for CNN.
Be careful of what you wish for CNN.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (oiNtH)
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156 Why do all the people who call Trump an idiot and stupid etc think the *only* alternative is Trump being a Godly Master of Everything? I don't understand it.
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
It's almost as if there's two cults...
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
It's almost as if there's two cults...
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (KbCG3)
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Could you please stop? We get it. In every thread about Trump you remark what an awful person and candidate he is. You've been doing this for months. It's boringly redundant. You are changing nobody's mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
I’m sorry. Trump is a genius and does no wrong. He will win 50 states in the greatest landslide ever.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
I’m sorry. Trump is a genius and does no wrong. He will win 50 states in the greatest landslide ever.
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Trump should have refused to share a space with the criminal Joe Biden.
Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (OwmWb)
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Does anyone think tfg will actually go through with debating President Biden? My gut says he won't.
Joe's got a great sense of humor. He'll tear trump apart with a few quick quips. the MAGAts are going to shit their pants by how calm and deadly serious Joe Biden is.
The magats will only watch selected segments fed through the Fux masticator. They know they shouldn't watch the raw presentation or they may have to deal with their cognitive dissonance.
We'll see. Trump still has plenty of time to make demands or make excuses for not showing up.
Probably do the 1st one, then be critical of the process and say it's not worth it. He'll complain the moderators were biased and Joe was incompetent. Not worth his time or effort to do the 2nd one.
He, and the entire cult, actually believe the caricature of President Biden they’ve created is real.
He'll debate when hell freezes over. He can’t put a sentence together. They can’t risk him saying Jimmy Connors instead of Jimmy Carter. Or confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. Or thinking Barack Obama is president.
Joe's got a great sense of humor. He'll tear trump apart with a few quick quips. the MAGAts are going to shit their pants by how calm and deadly serious Joe Biden is.
The magats will only watch selected segments fed through the Fux masticator. They know they shouldn't watch the raw presentation or they may have to deal with their cognitive dissonance.
We'll see. Trump still has plenty of time to make demands or make excuses for not showing up.
Probably do the 1st one, then be critical of the process and say it's not worth it. He'll complain the moderators were biased and Joe was incompetent. Not worth his time or effort to do the 2nd one.
He, and the entire cult, actually believe the caricature of President Biden they’ve created is real.
He'll debate when hell freezes over. He can’t put a sentence together. They can’t risk him saying Jimmy Connors instead of Jimmy Carter. Or confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. Or thinking Barack Obama is president.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 16, 2024 12:27 PM (JCZqz)
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Trump changed the discussion from Stormy to Dana.
It really doesn't matter if there is a debate(s).
Trump is being discussed today as the legitimate gop candidate and I guess that's bad??
It really doesn't matter if there is a debate(s).
Trump is being discussed today as the legitimate gop candidate and I guess that's bad??
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 12:27 PM (F3Dlr)
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You are changing nobody's mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
Least of all his own. But everyone else is a "cultist".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
Least of all his own. But everyone else is a "cultist".
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:27 PM (8ebbP)
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>>> Tapper and Bash take a big risk if they are planning on haranguing Trump regarding the indictments. Trump will hit back hard and bring up Biden's many crooked deeds, his son's crooked deeds and lifestyle, etc.
Chris Wallace talked over Trump and wouldn't let him talk about that.
But Jake Tapper is going to let Trump actually bring up Biden's corruption?
Chris Wallace talked over Trump and wouldn't let him talk about that.
But Jake Tapper is going to let Trump actually bring up Biden's corruption?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:27 PM (KRtlO)
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Mitt Romney: There’s 'No Question' That Joe Biden's Economy Is Strong and ‘Doing Well'
.. and Republicans had him as the 2012 presidential nominee
This is where "the Stupid Party" comes from.
.. and Republicans had him as the 2012 presidential nominee
This is where "the Stupid Party" comes from.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (RHGPo)
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72 Watching three people screeching their hatred at Trump may not be the dream scenario the DNC imagines.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2024 12:14 PM (l1/ge)
He should just ignore the two morons with the mics and immediately go Thunderdome on President Poopy.
And stay Thunderdome for a long time.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2024 12:14 PM (l1/ge)
He should just ignore the two morons with the mics and immediately go Thunderdome on President Poopy.
And stay Thunderdome for a long time.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (MkuC5)
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CNN: Let's see if we can get Trump during the debate to violate a gag order or further "slander" Jean Carroll! Tee hee!
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (qUkBO)
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@RNCResearch
REPORTER: Are you looking forward to debating President Trump?
BIDEN (confused): "I am, come on!"
*handlers force press from room*
https://shorturl.at/tKQX0
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Sharp as a tack.
REPORTER: Are you looking forward to debating President Trump?
BIDEN (confused): "I am, come on!"
*handlers force press from room*
https://shorturl.at/tKQX0
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Sharp as a tack.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (L/fGl)
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Please. Enlighten the class on when the presidential debates had an effect on the election whatsoever.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
The first televised debates. But the debates don’t have an effect on 80% of the voters. They are partisans that have made up their mind no matter what. You’re looking at it as a partisan.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
The first televised debates. But the debates don’t have an effect on 80% of the voters. They are partisans that have made up their mind no matter what. You’re looking at it as a partisan.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (MNhXM)
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I'd like Biden to demand the debate be seated and Trump agrees but only with a post-debate drug test.
That's how you deadlock this thing.
I'd like Biden to demand the debate be seated and Trump agrees but only with a post-debate drug test.
That's how you deadlock this thing.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (RKVpM)
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I'm not concerned about this at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
And why is Tapper now a brilliant erudite opponent. He's weak and derivative and droning.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
And why is Tapper now a brilliant erudite opponent. He's weak and derivative and droning.
Posted by: GOP sux at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (Zzbjj)
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There is just no way that a debate will be a pivotal moment in the campaign. Let's ignore inflation, open borders, Israel, Ukraine, China, Terrorism and concentrate on who can best the moderator in a debate.
That is my point.
There are lines being drawn.
Milei, Orban, Geert Wilder, Bukele
or
Erdogen, Petro, Maduro
That is my point.
There are lines being drawn.
Milei, Orban, Geert Wilder, Bukele
or
Erdogen, Petro, Maduro
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (t/2Uw)
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All debates are staged yankee propaganda to show the rethuglican as a bad honky who wants to lynch all the black folks, make all women have 8 chirruns and how the federal government will save errbody from the grand wizard of the KKK whomever it is at the moment.
We have not had any real debates since TV came along. Cannot be allowed.
We have not had any real debates since TV came along. Cannot be allowed.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM (IebSC)
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the MAGAts are going to shit their pants by how calm and deadly serious Joe Biden is.
"Calm" and "deadly serious" are not descriptions anyone with an IQ over 65 would use about Joe Biden.
"Calm" and "deadly serious" are not descriptions anyone with an IQ over 65 would use about Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
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It's like a game of chicken. Will the potato-in-chief cancel at the last possible moment? Will the bad orange man walk out when the moderators jump in to the save Potato?
Heck, how will the moderators manage asking the questions in the exact order to facilitate Potato's reading of pre-arranged answer cards?
Heck, how will the moderators manage asking the questions in the exact order to facilitate Potato's reading of pre-arranged answer cards?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (fxCK2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (XkYcA)
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How to rig an election 101...
Allow the flu season to be converted into a plandemic.
Use this fake plandemic to scare the citizens.
Use the scared citizens to lock down the nation, shut down businesses and keep people locked in their homes.
Send trillions of dollars out to people to stay in their homes.
Pay states to convert to mass vote by mail.
Tell your voters that they cannot trust mass vote by mail and to not mail their ballots in.
Tell your scared locked in their homes voters to only go and vote in person on election day.
Then watch as the opponents mass vote by mail ballots over whelm your stay at home non voters and declare the election rigged!
By the way, if you did not notice, it ws Trump who rigged the election against himself...
Allow the flu season to be converted into a plandemic.
Use this fake plandemic to scare the citizens.
Use the scared citizens to lock down the nation, shut down businesses and keep people locked in their homes.
Send trillions of dollars out to people to stay in their homes.
Pay states to convert to mass vote by mail.
Tell your voters that they cannot trust mass vote by mail and to not mail their ballots in.
Tell your scared locked in their homes voters to only go and vote in person on election day.
Then watch as the opponents mass vote by mail ballots over whelm your stay at home non voters and declare the election rigged!
By the way, if you did not notice, it ws Trump who rigged the election against himself...
Posted by: MarineVet at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (VcZlJ)
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Tapper and Bash take a big risk if they are planning on haranguing Trump regarding the indictments. Trump will hit back hard and bring up Biden's many crooked deeds, his son's crooked deeds and lifestyle, etc. if they try to cut him off he will fight back as he has in the past. He will also bring up the mainstream media's obvious biased reporting and the public's distrust of the media while they continue circling the drain.
Be careful of what you wish for CNN.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (oiNtH)
they'll cut his mic
Be careful of what you wish for CNN.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (oiNtH)
they'll cut his mic
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (AwYPR)
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I'm not concerned about this at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
And why is Tapper now a brilliant erudite opponent. He's weak and derivative and droning.
So is Candy Crowley, but she had a profound impact on the 2012 election.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
And why is Tapper now a brilliant erudite opponent. He's weak and derivative and droning.
So is Candy Crowley, but she had a profound impact on the 2012 election.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)
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Why do all the people who call Trump an idiot and stupid etc think the *only* alternative is Trump being a Godly Master of Everything? I don't understand it.
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
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It's the "false dichotomy" logical fallacy. Only the two extremes are presented as options without ever considering or presenting third, fourth, or fifth options.
It's a very lazy debating tactic.
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
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It's the "false dichotomy" logical fallacy. Only the two extremes are presented as options without ever considering or presenting third, fourth, or fifth options.
It's a very lazy debating tactic.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (BpYfr)
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The NFL didn't apologize after condemning him. I don’t understand how anyone on the Right can still watch the NFL.
Posted by: polynikes
It's the same so called conservative douchebags and baggettes that still support NASCAR, still shop at Target, and drink Bud Light. They're everywhere.
Posted by: polynikes
It's the same so called conservative douchebags and baggettes that still support NASCAR, still shop at Target, and drink Bud Light. They're everywhere.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (aFNOf)
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If debates don’t matter at all then campaigning doesn’t matter either.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (MNhXM)
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Trump thinks that no matter how self-handicapping he is WRT debates, he'll win anyway.
That's foolish even with Biden. He's not going to be debating Biden; he's going to be debating the moderators and the entire infrastructure of Never Trump in a regulated arena established by enemies.
Trump seems to just never learn. It's an own goal that may well make his currently widening voting advantage lose momentum. He needs it all because he's going to need down-ballot supporters to back him up in Congress. If even one extra percent of the electorate sit home because he got screwed during the debate, he will surely lose some turnout voting that others on the GOP ticket must have.
That's foolish even with Biden. He's not going to be debating Biden; he's going to be debating the moderators and the entire infrastructure of Never Trump in a regulated arena established by enemies.
Trump seems to just never learn. It's an own goal that may well make his currently widening voting advantage lose momentum. He needs it all because he's going to need down-ballot supporters to back him up in Congress. If even one extra percent of the electorate sit home because he got screwed during the debate, he will surely lose some turnout voting that others on the GOP ticket must have.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (aXxgO)
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Bait Biden, bait him with his sons, bait him with his exploits; not in an unpleasant way but good cop way. Encourage those lies.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (lCWOD)
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Trumps whole argument this year is that he is the victim of a corrupt system. Letting them set the terms lets any reasonable person see he is arguing with three people not one.
No veneer of Chris Wallace Fox News respectability to carry the day is NOT a good look from the people prosecuting him in court as their entire campaign.
But yes he's just a big huge dummy.
No veneer of Chris Wallace Fox News respectability to carry the day is NOT a good look from the people prosecuting him in court as their entire campaign.
But yes he's just a big huge dummy.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (8ebbP)
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What's funny about all this debate talk is that there's really, REALLY no need for it.
We have two guys who have served as president running against each other.
You know what they'll do.
You've seen the results.
If you still need convincing, you're dumber than a bag of hair.
We have two guys who have served as president running against each other.
You know what they'll do.
You've seen the results.
If you still need convincing, you're dumber than a bag of hair.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (KbCG3)
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I would think that this is Trump's way to get Biden out in public, forced to spend an hour or two talking, exposing his lack of faculties.
But Trump is too stupid for that. He's an out of touch imbecile that is a threat to democracy.
Biden FTW. Smart power.
But Trump is too stupid for that. He's an out of touch imbecile that is a threat to democracy.
Biden FTW. Smart power.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's the "false dichotomy" logical fallacy. Only the two extremes are presented as options without ever considering or presenting third, fourth, or fifth options.
It's a very lazy debating tactic.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (BpYfr)
third, fourth and fifth options are racist
It's a very lazy debating tactic.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (BpYfr)
third, fourth and fifth options are racist
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Just Lily at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (vivhj)
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Kristi Noem will be there to put down the moderators.
Posted by: Archer at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (rskKm)
Trump to Tapper/Biden: You lie like a dog!
BLAM!
Posted by: Archer at May 16, 2024 12:10 PM (rskKm)
Trump to Tapper/Biden: You lie like a dog!
BLAM!
Posted by: pookysgirl can hope at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (dtlDP)
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That's foolish even with Biden. He's not going to be debating Biden; he's going to be debating the moderators and the entire infrastructure of Never Trump in a regulated arena established by enemies.
Precisely.
Precisely.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (CsUN+)
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150 Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (Y6Wgg)
Could you please stop? We get it. In every thread about Trump you remark what an awful person and candidate he is. You've been doing this for months. It's boringly redundant. You are changing nobody's mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
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You're wasting your time. What he needs is an exorcist.
Could you please stop? We get it. In every thread about Trump you remark what an awful person and candidate he is. You've been doing this for months. It's boringly redundant. You are changing nobody's mind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (XkYcA)
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You're wasting your time. What he needs is an exorcist.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (1bNHn)
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This is all one big excuse for Biden to throw down the "Go away! 'batin!" meme.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)
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Trump has an uncanny ability to get under people's skin. *biden's skin is so thin the second Trump snarks on him, and you know he will, slow joe will pop-off bigly.
The only question is whether CNN will show it.*
*They won't show it.
The only question is whether CNN will show it.*
*They won't show it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)
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Trump is a stupid doodyhead who said pussy.
Biden is better because he's spent his entire life in DC and knows how to play the games. He's the man we need.
Vote Biden FTW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Biden is better because he's spent his entire life in DC and knows how to play the games. He's the man we need.
Vote Biden FTW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (PDruL)
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Dana lives in a bubble where she and her girlfriends sit at an upper East side restaurant, bitch about their husbands while sipping on their Chardonnay. They talk about their plans for the Summer in the Hamptons and talk about how chic, smart and fabulous they are - circular AWFL meeting.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (oiNtH)
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Please. Enlighten the class on when the presidential debates had an effect on the election whatsoever.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
If they don't , why did Trump agree to them ??
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
If they don't , why did Trump agree to them ??
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (V13WU)
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A bright point? BP, "The Democratic Party will select its presidential nominee at the 2024 Democratic National Convention, which will take place from August 19-22, 2024, in Chicago, Illinois. Joe Biden (D) crossed the majority delegate threshold necessary to win the Democratic nomination on March 12, 2024, making him the presumptive Democratic nominee."
If debate #1 is awful, could Joey be replaced? (Rhetorical) There's time between the debate and the above convention.
If Trump is terrible.....
If debate #1 is awful, could Joey be replaced? (Rhetorical) There's time between the debate and the above convention.
If Trump is terrible.....
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (NFX2v)
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Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th? There is a reason or reasons. The only one can think of is doing it shortly after or before the typical end-of-session SCOTUS rulings on big cases, such as Chevron.
Anything else you can think of?
Anything else you can think of?
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (MkuC5)
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I would think that this is Trump's way to get Biden out in public, forced to spend an hour or two talking, exposing his lack of faculties.
You are correct. That is his plan.
Plans often go awry. What we're discussing here is the possibility of things going very seriously (and unnecessarily) awry for Trump.
You are correct. That is his plan.
Plans often go awry. What we're discussing here is the possibility of things going very seriously (and unnecessarily) awry for Trump.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (CsUN+)
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Why would Trump agree to this?"
I explained this yesterday. What choice did Trump have? Biden made this "offer" expecting and hoping that Trump would say no. It was a bluff. Trump called it.
Oh and I think it's 50/50 that this debate happens at all.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Agreed.
However, Biden needed something to fi the summer and the first debate will be it.
Georgia Fani is dead in the water.
Jack Smith is still trying to get a trial going.
Everyone assumes Trump will be found guilty in Manhattan, but if not what does Biden do?
After commencement exercises, what do the Pali Piss People do? Go BLM?
Given no court "drama" the June debate "gotcha " will be all there is given the above. No rate reductions are coming in June unless May numbers shit the bed.
I explained this yesterday. What choice did Trump have? Biden made this "offer" expecting and hoping that Trump would say no. It was a bluff. Trump called it.
Oh and I think it's 50/50 that this debate happens at all.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Agreed.
However, Biden needed something to fi the summer and the first debate will be it.
Georgia Fani is dead in the water.
Jack Smith is still trying to get a trial going.
Everyone assumes Trump will be found guilty in Manhattan, but if not what does Biden do?
After commencement exercises, what do the Pali Piss People do? Go BLM?
Given no court "drama" the June debate "gotcha " will be all there is given the above. No rate reductions are coming in June unless May numbers shit the bed.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (JkCto)
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You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (PDruL)
Mary Cloggenstein has had an effect.
You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (PDruL)
Mary Cloggenstein has had an effect.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
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You're wasting your time. What he needs is an exorcist.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (1bNHn)
enema
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (1bNHn)
enema
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (AwYPR)
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Heh...the competence of the Kansas City government:
"We apologies [sic] for our previous tweet. It was shared in error," the post read.
"We apologies [sic] for our previous tweet. It was shared in error," the post read.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (W/lyH)
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"And Trump will return with facts on Biden's failed policies destroying the country."
Constant interruptions from the "moderators" + mic shut off since Trump agreed not to interrupt Biden* will take care of that. And Biden* will be allowed to filibuster while the moderators sit silently like dreamy star-struck cult members. Which they are.
Constant interruptions from the "moderators" + mic shut off since Trump agreed not to interrupt Biden* will take care of that. And Biden* will be allowed to filibuster while the moderators sit silently like dreamy star-struck cult members. Which they are.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (qUkBO)
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ace no one is saying you can't criticize Trump. Well, maybe someone is but i haven't seen that person here.
Trump has obviously exhibited poor judgment in the past. This may well be an example of it. But then again it might not be. I take the decision as more one of confidence than strategy.
And I remember that Trump chose to do a CNN townhall instead of participating in a debate with other candidates and this was roundly criticized as well. They will gang up on him and make him look like a fool!
But he did so well all the Left got mad at CNN for their failure to destroy him. AND he defeated all comers in that primary. That he didn't debate him.
So yes Team Biden may have called Trumps bluff. But the possibility exists that he has called Team Biden's bluff.
Trump has obviously exhibited poor judgment in the past. This may well be an example of it. But then again it might not be. I take the decision as more one of confidence than strategy.
And I remember that Trump chose to do a CNN townhall instead of participating in a debate with other candidates and this was roundly criticized as well. They will gang up on him and make him look like a fool!
But he did so well all the Left got mad at CNN for their failure to destroy him. AND he defeated all comers in that primary. That he didn't debate him.
So yes Team Biden may have called Trumps bluff. But the possibility exists that he has called Team Biden's bluff.
Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (96z/x)
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If debates don’t matter at all then campaigning doesn’t matter either.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (MNhXM)
Ummmmmm...Yes. It is all media driven to get the sheeple moving from one end of the enclosure to the other. I vote against the federal government, but the federal government is still there.
Like a boot on the face.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (MNhXM)
Ummmmmm...Yes. It is all media driven to get the sheeple moving from one end of the enclosure to the other. I vote against the federal government, but the federal government is still there.
Like a boot on the face.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (IebSC)
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We have not had any real debates since TV came along. Cannot be allowed.
There have been at least two instances of the media losing control of the narrative during a debate just with Trump. The one where he kept circling Hillary like a shark and it threw her off, and the one where he pretty much ran over the CNN moderator and the audience took his side.
So while I doubt any theories of super-genius, Trump *can* handle this stuff. The Biden demand that there not be an audience is an attempt to cut off one of those tactics, but we'll see.
There have been at least two instances of the media losing control of the narrative during a debate just with Trump. The one where he kept circling Hillary like a shark and it threw her off, and the one where he pretty much ran over the CNN moderator and the audience took his side.
So while I doubt any theories of super-genius, Trump *can* handle this stuff. The Biden demand that there not be an audience is an attempt to cut off one of those tactics, but we'll see.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (2ocoG)
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According to her 2023 financial disclosures, Harris's 2019 memoir, “The Truths We Hold,” earned just $234.13 in royalties last year. It isn't a new book, of course, but judging by the rapid decline of Harris' royalties, the book had a shelf life shorter than the appeal of its purported author's laugh.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (RHGPo)
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132 >>>So spazz away about the debate--Trump's judgment, etc.
I know, Trump is 19th-dimensional Brain Jedi and he must never, ever be questioned. He always knows the right thing to do, like not suing the state of PA for changing election rules *before* the election, and we must all scruntinize his decisions only to understand better how perfect and brilliant they all are.
Posted by: ace
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Please demonstrate for us that any June debate will have meaningful impact on a presidential race in November. Show your work using past polling, etc.
Never get emotional about politics--it upsets the digestion and makes one ill humored.
Those on the right that think Trump has bad judgment will continue to do so and whether or not Trump does 'well or not' in a debate is beside the point.
I personally consider whether Trump or allied groups are doing anything about scrubbing voter lists as more important than a debate and I have pretty large amount of data that show debates rarely affect much of anything even the Lincoln Douglas debates did not help underdog Lincoln from losing to Stephen Douglass in IL way back when. That is leaving out that this debate is ahistorically early.
I know, Trump is 19th-dimensional Brain Jedi and he must never, ever be questioned. He always knows the right thing to do, like not suing the state of PA for changing election rules *before* the election, and we must all scruntinize his decisions only to understand better how perfect and brilliant they all are.
Posted by: ace
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Please demonstrate for us that any June debate will have meaningful impact on a presidential race in November. Show your work using past polling, etc.
Never get emotional about politics--it upsets the digestion and makes one ill humored.
Those on the right that think Trump has bad judgment will continue to do so and whether or not Trump does 'well or not' in a debate is beside the point.
I personally consider whether Trump or allied groups are doing anything about scrubbing voter lists as more important than a debate and I have pretty large amount of data that show debates rarely affect much of anything even the Lincoln Douglas debates did not help underdog Lincoln from losing to Stephen Douglass in IL way back when. That is leaving out that this debate is ahistorically early.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (8QJ54)
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If debate #1 is awful, could Joey be replaced? (Rhetorical) There's time between the debate and the above convention.
If Trump is terrible.....
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (NFX2v)
If Poopy has the Big One on national TV?
If Trump is terrible.....
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (NFX2v)
If Poopy has the Big One on national TV?
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (MkuC5)
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That's foolish even with Biden. He's not going to be debating Biden; he's going to be debating the moderators and the entire infrastructure of Never Trump in a regulated arena established by enemies.
Precisely.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (CsUN+)
And the average "undecided" person will be too dumb to see that??
Why the fuck would they see it any more clearly with Trump Terms setting the day in a fairer looking fight?
Precisely.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (CsUN+)
And the average "undecided" person will be too dumb to see that??
Why the fuck would they see it any more clearly with Trump Terms setting the day in a fairer looking fight?
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (8ebbP)
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201 Dana lives in a bubble where she and her girlfriends sit at an upper East side restaurant, bitch about their husbands while sipping on their Chardonnay. They talk about their plans for the Summer in the Hamptons and talk about how chic, smart and fabulous they are - circular AWFL meeting.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (oiNtH)
Here's the thing about people like Dana, she'll say that nobody supports late-term abortion on demand. This is also her way of saying she doesn't support it.
But the second she catches wind of a dem supporting it, she'll be at the front of the line supporting it with all her might.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (oiNtH)
Here's the thing about people like Dana, she'll say that nobody supports late-term abortion on demand. This is also her way of saying she doesn't support it.
But the second she catches wind of a dem supporting it, she'll be at the front of the line supporting it with all her might.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th? There is a reason or reasons. The only one can think of is doing it shortly after or before the typical end-of-session SCOTUS rulings on big cases, such as Chevron.
Anything else you can think of?
Posted by: Gref
buried in the summer season when people arent paying attention, can be buried and long forgotten before election, forced by D powers to force an ouster for just a couple
Anything else you can think of?
Posted by: Gref
buried in the summer season when people arent paying attention, can be buried and long forgotten before election, forced by D powers to force an ouster for just a couple
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (CIS44)
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If they don't , why did Trump agree to them ??
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (V13WU)
To get Biden to go off script. He wants Biden in public, speaking, as much as possible.
If they don't , why did Trump agree to them ??
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (V13WU)
To get Biden to go off script. He wants Biden in public, speaking, as much as possible.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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Trump had no choice ! Also, Trump - "The public knows who I am & what a successful Presidency I had.... I will therefore not be doing the debates."
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (V13WU)
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This is reminiscent of my youth:
Guy 1: "Oh yeah?"
Guy 2: "Yeah."
Guy 1: "Settle this after school?"
Guy 2: "Yeah, be there."
Neither shows up.
This is reminiscent of my youth:
Guy 1: "Oh yeah?"
Guy 2: "Yeah."
Guy 1: "Settle this after school?"
Guy 2: "Yeah, be there."
Neither shows up.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (RKVpM)
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Noem will shoot the moderators and then seize the mic to tell you how Smile Texas can fix your smile.
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (xPl2J)
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You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (PDruL)
Mary Cloggenstein has had an effect.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Not enough, it seems. You're not misspelling enough words
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:32 PM (PDruL)
Mary Cloggenstein has had an effect.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Not enough, it seems. You're not misspelling enough words
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (PDruL)
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When Noem give you pet name, be very afraid..
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (V13WU)
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>>> 225 Noem will shoot the moderators and then seize the mic to tell you how Smile Texas can fix your smile.
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (xPl2J)
Oh no, the poor moderators!
Anyway...
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (xPl2J)
Oh no, the poor moderators!
Anyway...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (llON8)
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Not enough, it seems. You're not misspelling enough words
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (PDruL)
I've done a good job suppressing my public education.
Not enough, it seems. You're not misspelling enough words
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (PDruL)
I've done a good job suppressing my public education.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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To get Biden to go off script. He wants Biden in public, speaking, as much as possible.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Boom. Nailed it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Boom. Nailed it.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (MkuC5)
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184 I'm not concerned about this at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
And why is Tapper now a brilliant erudite opponent. He's weak and derivative and droning.
So is Candy Crowley, but she had a profound impact on the 2012 election.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)
She absolutely did, but that was then. She wouldn't have, BTW, but Romney was a stiff. That's not Trump.
Crowley started this debate moderator interference with her one remark. Wallace expanded upon it greatly with his performance - which exceeded even the norm-breaking that Crowley did at the time. Crowley 'won', but that was the end of her career. Same with Wallace.
We know what is coming. Trump is well aware of it as well - remember that this is the guy that went straight up to Harlem after spending the day in a courthouse. People thought that keeping Trump in NYC would have destroyed his campaign, but of course it did not.
I don't have blind faith in Trump in this regard. I now have years of evidence that this guy is a once in a century political talent. Again, I'm not worried about this at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:24 PM (aoBEM)
And why is Tapper now a brilliant erudite opponent. He's weak and derivative and droning.
So is Candy Crowley, but she had a profound impact on the 2012 election.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)
She absolutely did, but that was then. She wouldn't have, BTW, but Romney was a stiff. That's not Trump.
Crowley started this debate moderator interference with her one remark. Wallace expanded upon it greatly with his performance - which exceeded even the norm-breaking that Crowley did at the time. Crowley 'won', but that was the end of her career. Same with Wallace.
We know what is coming. Trump is well aware of it as well - remember that this is the guy that went straight up to Harlem after spending the day in a courthouse. People thought that keeping Trump in NYC would have destroyed his campaign, but of course it did not.
I don't have blind faith in Trump in this regard. I now have years of evidence that this guy is a once in a century political talent. Again, I'm not worried about this at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (aoBEM)
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Constant interruptions from the "moderators" + mic shut off since Trump agreed not to interrupt Biden* will take care of that. And Biden* will be allowed to filibuster while the moderators sit silently like dreamy star-struck cult members. Which they are.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (qUkBO)
And anyone with even half a brain - read: reachable people - will be able to detect that. People don't like to watch an unfair fight. It's in us.
Trump the Insensitive Bully Dictator is not what people are going to be seeing while watching him get beat on by three people. People naturally like an underdog.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (qUkBO)
And anyone with even half a brain - read: reachable people - will be able to detect that. People don't like to watch an unfair fight. It's in us.
Trump the Insensitive Bully Dictator is not what people are going to be seeing while watching him get beat on by three people. People naturally like an underdog.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (8ebbP)
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I also was surprised and disappointed with Trump agreeing to this side show. Why did Biden insist on no audience? He didn't want to see audience members who are Gold Star families? Audience members whose loved ones were killed by an illegal alien? And the list goes on.
There should be an audience and the moderators are a joke but Trump will handle them. No, I don't think that he should have agreed to this and if this turns out to be a big mistake, then Trump will have to deal with it.
There should be an audience and the moderators are a joke but Trump will handle them. No, I don't think that he should have agreed to this and if this turns out to be a big mistake, then Trump will have to deal with it.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (oiNtH)
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This is reminiscent of my youth:
Guy 1: "Oh yeah?"
Guy 2: "Yeah."
Guy 1: "Settle this after school?"
Guy 2: "Yeah, be there."
Neither shows up.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (RKVpM)
***
Sounds like my first date in high school.
Guy 1: "Oh yeah?"
Guy 2: "Yeah."
Guy 1: "Settle this after school?"
Guy 2: "Yeah, be there."
Neither shows up.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (RKVpM)
***
Sounds like my first date in high school.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (W/lyH)
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Boom. Nailed it.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (MkuC5)
Couldn't have. Trump is too stupid and said pussy. He has no clue about anything.
Boom. Nailed it.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (MkuC5)
Couldn't have. Trump is too stupid and said pussy. He has no clue about anything.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
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3 Hi Ace
This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:05 PM (t/2Uw)
Right because who is elected President is completely unrelated to the world being on fire.
This is all so silly. The world is on fire. But let's talk about debate moderators.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:05 PM (t/2Uw)
Right because who is elected President is completely unrelated to the world being on fire.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (4+3qm)
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Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?
In case Joe's killed by Hamas-tifa going in or out of the convention? Last I saw he was going to be the only in-person speaker there to try and short-circuit the protests, but that seems dumb because he's specifically the person the protesters are calling out.
In case Joe's killed by Hamas-tifa going in or out of the convention? Last I saw he was going to be the only in-person speaker there to try and short-circuit the protests, but that seems dumb because he's specifically the person the protesters are calling out.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (2ocoG)
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Mitt Romney: There’s 'No Question' That Joe Biden's Economy Is Strong and ‘Doing Well'
.. and Republicans had him as the 2012 presidential nominee
This is where "the Stupid Party" comes from.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM
romney is positioning himself for a cabinet position if biden wins a second term. After all he isn't running for a second senate term. Seriously, unless you are going to get your a$$ beat nobody gives up that cushy job.
.. and Republicans had him as the 2012 presidential nominee
This is where "the Stupid Party" comes from.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:28 PM
romney is positioning himself for a cabinet position if biden wins a second term. After all he isn't running for a second senate term. Seriously, unless you are going to get your a$$ beat nobody gives up that cushy job.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (QNSds)
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I think Trump's outlook is just that Jake Tapper can't say anything worse than has already been blared from every loudspeaker in the land for eight years, and Joe Biden will have a lousy debate. It's certainly mine. I think that nobody who'd consider voting for him takes CNN seriously, and Joe is a shambling husk who may even crap himself or die on TV.
It's a gamble, certainly. But I don't think he's necessarily crazy for this.
It's a gamble, certainly. But I don't think he's necessarily crazy for this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (0FoWg)
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the MAGAts are going to shit their pants by how calm and deadly serious Joe Biden is.
"Calm" and "deadly serious" are not descriptions anyone with an IQ over 65 would use about Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
Drugged and nearly comatose are more accurate
"Calm" and "deadly serious" are not descriptions anyone with an IQ over 65 would use about Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
Drugged and nearly comatose are more accurate
Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (N6S7G)
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On CNN tonight: The Box Canyon Debate! Will Trump's campaign fail to survive the night, or merely leave mortally wounded? Tune in to find out!
Posted by: The Grand Old Pussy Party Possee Rides Again! at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (qUkBO)
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It occurs to me that Trump loves to spar with a combative press. Whatever rules are in place for this shit show I'm pretty sure Trump's got his own set to proverbially whip out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)
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Rush Limbaugh used to say that the biggest mistakes are made in a fearful mindset. (Remember that he and DJT were friends.)
Joe Biden's team (the CIA) has proposed these debates because they are fearful.
DJT has accepted because he is not.
Valiant men never ask why a coward does what he does, because a coward lives inside even the most brave of men.
But a coward never understands the motivations of the valiant.
Joe Biden's team (the CIA) has proposed these debates because they are fearful.
DJT has accepted because he is not.
Valiant men never ask why a coward does what he does, because a coward lives inside even the most brave of men.
But a coward never understands the motivations of the valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (JQiMb)
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How do these states keep passing laws allowing late term abortions when Dana Bash assures me no one supports it?
Posted by: Wally at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (hqVaF)
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With a Coke and a smile
Yes sir that's my baby
No sir don't mean maybe
That's my cokehead smile
_Hunta Viden
Yes sir that's my baby
No sir don't mean maybe
That's my cokehead smile
_Hunta Viden
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (lCWOD)
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To get Biden to go off script. He wants Biden in public, speaking, as much as possible.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Then he should have made debate requirements that would assist in that goal.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Then he should have made debate requirements that would assist in that goal.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (MNhXM)
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>>> I think Trump's outlook is just that Jake Tapper can't say anything worse than has already been blared from every loudspeaker in the land for eight years, and Joe Biden will have a lousy debate. It's certainly mine. I think that nobody who'd consider voting for him takes CNN seriously, and Joe is a shambling husk who may even crap himself or die on TV.
"It is always wise to underestimate your opponents, especially in life-or-death struggles." -- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
"It is always wise to underestimate your opponents, especially in life-or-death struggles." -- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (KRtlO)
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Afternoon Ace. Don't know if anyone saw this but I got home from golf and Jared Bernstein was on Fox business with Cavuto. Much to my surprise Cavuto ripped him a new one for Biden's lying about inflation. He later apologized to his audience but it was a pleasant surprise
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (aF2b4)
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242 It occurs to me that Trump loves to spar with a combative press. Whatever rules are in place for this shit show I'm pretty sure Trump's got his own set to proverbially whip out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)
My favorite were his outside, impromptu pressers where he'd talk in a suit for an hour with reporters standing there complaining about the heat.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)
My favorite were his outside, impromptu pressers where he'd talk in a suit for an hour with reporters standing there complaining about the heat.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (KbCG3)
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Not enough, it seems. You're not misspelling enough words
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (PDruL)
I've done a good job suppressing my public education.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)
You supplemented that education with Hooked on Phonics, eh?
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (PDruL)
I've done a good job suppressing my public education.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)
You supplemented that education with Hooked on Phonics, eh?
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (PDruL)
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They don't want an audience for several reasons, chief among them that Trump is great in front of an audience and it much easier to fake a certain tut tut atmosphere without one. Trump knows how to make people laugh and that's powerful shit. I would like to see one but I think Trump is strong enough and Biden weak enough to do it without one.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (8ebbP)
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When you tell a Democrat their party is for late term abortion, they tend to not believe you or hand wave it away.
And, Dana is an idiot. If she ever spoke with Barbara Boxer, she spoke with someone who was all in on abortion at any stage of a pregnancy.
And, Dana is an idiot. If she ever spoke with Barbara Boxer, she spoke with someone who was all in on abortion at any stage of a pregnancy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (tT6L1)
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Still leaves us in a hole of the Biden junta's making and hides the fact that Ukraine is collapsing and Europe is teetering.
You'll never guess who is responsible for the impending fall of Kharkov to the Russians.
You are, of course.
"The whole world is to blame for what is happening now in Kharkiv, not just the United States," Zelensky said.
"This is the fault of the whole world. The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
You'll never guess who is responsible for the impending fall of Kharkov to the Russians.
You are, of course.
"The whole world is to blame for what is happening now in Kharkiv, not just the United States," Zelensky said.
"This is the fault of the whole world. The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
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think how unusual it is that you have two Presidents running against each other. They both have records. Biden is try8ing to pretend that the last three years never happened and he is going to fix things. He is currently President and has the power to fix things and hasn't. Meanwhile Trump actually fixed things. He can run on his record. No inflation. No wars. Polls already showing people longing for the return of the good times.
I don;t see how anything can change this trajectory and make anyone think that Biden deserves a second term.
I don;t see how anything can change this trajectory and make anyone think that Biden deserves a second term.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (t/2Uw)
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Or........It's the democrat version of Network and Trump is Howard Beale.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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Drugged and nearly comatose are more accurate
Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (N6S7G)
And stinky.
Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (N6S7G)
And stinky.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who doesn't have to change the DOTUS at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (PiwSw)
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>>> Don't know if anyone saw this but I got home from golf and Jared Bernstein was on Fox business with Cavuto. Much to my surprise Cavuto ripped him a new one for Biden's lying about inflation. He later apologized to his audience but it was a pleasant surprise
thanks, I'll look for it.
thanks, I'll look for it.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
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243 Rush Limbaugh used to say that the biggest mistakes are made in a fearful mindset. (Remember that he and DJT were friends.)
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Scared money never wins.
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Scared money never wins.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (lCWOD)
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210 You're wasting your time. What he needs is an exorcist.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (1bNHn)
enema
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (AwYPR)
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I don't know. He's already spewing plenty.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:31 PM (1bNHn)
enema
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:33 PM (AwYPR)
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I don't know. He's already spewing plenty.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (1bNHn)
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You supplemented that education with Hooked on Phonics, eh?
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (PDruL)
Speak n' Spell v 2.0
You supplemented that education with Hooked on Phonics, eh?
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (PDruL)
Speak n' Spell v 2.0
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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200 Trump is a stupid doodyhead who said pussy.
Biden is better because he's spent his entire life in DC and knows how to play the games. He's the man we need.
Vote Biden FTW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Posted by: Doof
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Not necessarily true here. Biden's prezzie approval hit 38.7 in Gallup polling last month and I don't see economic skies brightening very much for him going forward. Same with the border, crime, protests, and so on. I think Nixon post Watergate, Harry Truman in his final year, and GWB in 2008 after the meltdown had lower Presidential approval rates at this point in a term.
Biden is better because he's spent his entire life in DC and knows how to play the games. He's the man we need.
Vote Biden FTW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
You've summed up at lest 40% of the nation
Posted by: Doof
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Not necessarily true here. Biden's prezzie approval hit 38.7 in Gallup polling last month and I don't see economic skies brightening very much for him going forward. Same with the border, crime, protests, and so on. I think Nixon post Watergate, Harry Truman in his final year, and GWB in 2008 after the meltdown had lower Presidential approval rates at this point in a term.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (8QJ54)
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Biden was half right when he said he beat Trump in two debates. He did beat him once. Or rather, he benefited and Trump was harmed, mostly due to Trump's excessively (even by his own standards) over the top behavior. Trump is nearly alone in the ability to lose a debate in this day and age to Joe Biden. But he's proven the ability to do so. I do fear he is setting himself up to do that again.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:41 PM (4+3qm)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 16, 2024 12:41 PM (J8LnB)
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When Noem give you pet name, be very afraid..
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (V13WU)
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LOL
Muldoon-worthy ...
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 12:35 PM (V13WU)
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LOL
Muldoon-worthy ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (h4Cdp)
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this is like a parlor game where you take whatever bad decision Trump has made and try to think up clever ways to justify it, including "Joe Biden might just collapse on stage"
the game gets old. really really old.
this is like a parlor game where you take whatever bad decision Trump has made and try to think up clever ways to justify it, including "Joe Biden might just collapse on stage"
the game gets old. really really old.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (KRtlO)
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>>> 255
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I don;t see how anything can change this trajectory and make anyone think that Biden deserves a second term.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (t/2Uw)
Who cares what the people think.
==
I don;t see how anything can change this trajectory and make anyone think that Biden deserves a second term.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (t/2Uw)
Who cares what the people think.
Posted by: Stalin's Vote Counters at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (llON8)
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"The whole world is to blame for what is happening now in Kharkiv, not just the United States," Zelensky said.
"This is the fault of the whole world. The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
There are reports on X that Z-Man and freinds already spent the aid money on themselves instead of fortifying Kharkiv. And it's not like there are many combat-capable men in Ukraine now anyway.
"This is the fault of the whole world. The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
There are reports on X that Z-Man and freinds already spent the aid money on themselves instead of fortifying Kharkiv. And it's not like there are many combat-capable men in Ukraine now anyway.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (2ocoG)
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Come November 5th:
. one candidate is in prison; and
. the other Didn't Kill Himself a day or two before.
Posted by: ShainS
And, for The Good of the Nation, a 'bipartisan' Congress votes to suspend elections indefinitely while putting a Mandarin Council in charge.
. one candidate is in prison; and
. the other Didn't Kill Himself a day or two before.
Posted by: ShainS
And, for The Good of the Nation, a 'bipartisan' Congress votes to suspend elections indefinitely while putting a Mandarin Council in charge.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (riU2q)
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We know what is coming. Trump is well aware of it as well - remember that this is the guy that went straight up to Harlem after spending the day in a courthouse. People thought that keeping Trump in NYC would have destroyed his campaign, but of course it did not.
Bash and Tapper (Basher?) are even now discussing series of Trump questions based on knowing obscure facts and loaded questions which admit of no right answer. Given enough time for the moderators to prepare, and they have it, it would be difficult for anyone to deal with such a scenario. If anyone can, largely by bluster and sheer force of personality, it's Trump, but I am not optimistic.
Bash and Tapper (Basher?) are even now discussing series of Trump questions based on knowing obscure facts and loaded questions which admit of no right answer. Given enough time for the moderators to prepare, and they have it, it would be difficult for anyone to deal with such a scenario. If anyone can, largely by bluster and sheer force of personality, it's Trump, but I am not optimistic.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (CsUN+)
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Sticks head back in... Is it safe ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
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Now: Anyone that claims there was even a smidgen of a question of the integrity of our holy elections in our sacred democracy is a science denying white supremacist NAZI.
Then: The elections of 1980, 2000, 2004, 2016 were all stolen
Then: The elections of 1980, 2000, 2004, 2016 were all stolen
Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (ibTVg)
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38.7% is a goosed number IMO. Probably near 30%.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (2QA3G)
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (MNhXM)
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The Z man is not inaccurate in what he's saying. The world allowed the US to screw around on the borders of Russia and do things in Ukraine we certainly wouldn't tolerate Russia doing in Mexico.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (tT6L1)
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The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
send ca$h
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
send ca$h
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (AwYPR)
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I've may have been thinking about the June debate all wrong.
First I thought it was a test for Biden to see if he could change the dynamics of the race. If not, the DNC would pull him at the convention.
My current thinking is the coordination between the HW and Judge Merchan is so deep that they are guaranteeing a conviction and Biden/CNN/Tapper want to hammer Trump over the head with "convicted felon" in a debate, possibly only days after a verdict.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (G0vdT)
There's that, but the Dems are going to be doing that anyway. Might as well fight the 2024 Battle of Gettysburg face to face with the foe in the same studio. As for a 'conservative' moderator on the panel, meh. Those idiots usually want to prove how above the fray they are. "I'm not biased" and proceed to ask questions just as stupid as the commies.
First I thought it was a test for Biden to see if he could change the dynamics of the race. If not, the DNC would pull him at the convention.
My current thinking is the coordination between the HW and Judge Merchan is so deep that they are guaranteeing a conviction and Biden/CNN/Tapper want to hammer Trump over the head with "convicted felon" in a debate, possibly only days after a verdict.
Posted by: WisRich at May 16, 2024 12:09 PM (G0vdT)
There's that, but the Dems are going to be doing that anyway. Might as well fight the 2024 Battle of Gettysburg face to face with the foe in the same studio. As for a 'conservative' moderator on the panel, meh. Those idiots usually want to prove how above the fray they are. "I'm not biased" and proceed to ask questions just as stupid as the commies.
Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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248 Afternoon Ace. Don't know if anyone saw this but I got home from golf and Jared Bernstein was on Fox business with Cavuto. Much to my surprise Cavuto ripped him a new one for Biden's lying about inflation. He later apologized to his audience but it was a pleasant surprise
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (aF2b4)
I saw it. I usually have Fox Business running all day, but make a point to change it when Cavuto comes on because he is such a fathead bloviating dimwit. But I forgot today, and did see him give it pretty good to Bernstein, one of the handful of people who is much, much dumber and more useless than Cavuto even.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (aF2b4)
I saw it. I usually have Fox Business running all day, but make a point to change it when Cavuto comes on because he is such a fathead bloviating dimwit. But I forgot today, and did see him give it pretty good to Bernstein, one of the handful of people who is much, much dumber and more useless than Cavuto even.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (4+3qm)
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"This is the fault of the whole world. The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
Should we queue up Sally Struthers to beg for money? Or how about the RNC with their "matching funds" pitches we all remember?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
Should we queue up Sally Struthers to beg for money? Or how about the RNC with their "matching funds" pitches we all remember?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (N39Ws)
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So is Candy Crowley, but she had a profound impact on the 2012 election.
Posted by: Archimedes
The issue was more that Romney was a weak candidate that played by the rules of decorum and accepted it. Trump, for good and bad, doesn't have this particular issue.
Trump has obviously exhibited poor judgment in the past. This may well be an example of it. But then again it might not be. I take the decision as more one of confidence than strategy.
I generally think most of Trump's calls look like the wrong decision...but they usually end up working out well for him, especially in PR/showmanship stuff. Is it luck, crazy work after the fact? Dunno. This announcement gets positive attention on him for now, and he has time and ability to adjust the debate if he wants.
Posted by: Archimedes
The issue was more that Romney was a weak candidate that played by the rules of decorum and accepted it. Trump, for good and bad, doesn't have this particular issue.
Trump has obviously exhibited poor judgment in the past. This may well be an example of it. But then again it might not be. I take the decision as more one of confidence than strategy.
I generally think most of Trump's calls look like the wrong decision...but they usually end up working out well for him, especially in PR/showmanship stuff. Is it luck, crazy work after the fact? Dunno. This announcement gets positive attention on him for now, and he has time and ability to adjust the debate if he wants.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (JCZqz)
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But the second she catches wind of a dem supporting it, she'll be at the front of the line supporting it with all her might.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
Nailed it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
Nailed it.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (oiNtH)
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"Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?"
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
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>>> 272 Now: Anyone that claims there was even a smidgen of a question of the integrity of our holy elections in our sacred democracy is a science denying white supremacist NAZI.
Then: The elections of 1980, 2000, 2004, 2016 were all stolen
Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (ibTVg)
Hey, what about me?
Then: The elections of 1980, 2000, 2004, 2016 were all stolen
Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (ibTVg)
Hey, what about me?
Posted by: 1984 Reagan Landslide at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (llON8)
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How many people thought Trump would still be standing let alone the gop nominee for President in the summer of 2024?
How many times has he been written off since 2020?
How many times has he been written off since 2020?
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (F3Dlr)
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Sticks head back in... Is it safe ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
What do you think? 😂
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
What do you think? 😂
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (8ebbP)
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221 Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th? There is a reason or reasons. The only one can think of is doing it shortly after or before the typical end-of-session SCOTUS rulings on big cases, such as Chevron.
Anything else you can think of?
Posted by: Gref
buried in the summer season when people arent paying attention, can be buried and long forgotten before election, forced by D powers to force an ouster for just a couple
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (CIS44)
Yeah. Plus looking at the calendar, June 27 is the Thursday before a long 4th of July weekend. The 4th is the following Tuesday; many people will begin their 4th of July vacations on Friday, June 28th. Team Joe must expect a break-even debate at best.
Anything else you can think of?
Posted by: Gref
buried in the summer season when people arent paying attention, can be buried and long forgotten before election, forced by D powers to force an ouster for just a couple
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 16, 2024 12:34 PM (CIS44)
Yeah. Plus looking at the calendar, June 27 is the Thursday before a long 4th of July weekend. The 4th is the following Tuesday; many people will begin their 4th of July vacations on Friday, June 28th. Team Joe must expect a break-even debate at best.
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 12:44 PM (5fDan)
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suck a dick, Keyboard Kommando
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
suck a dick, Keyboard Kommando
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)
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Don't worry, Ace, it's nine dimensional chess. Trump never makes any mistakes and if you think he does, that's because you're not a brilliant strategist. Maybe try reading Art of the Deal dummy.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (7zRkJ)
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263 Biden was half right when he said he beat Trump in two debates. He did beat him once. Or rather, he benefited and Trump was harmed, mostly due to Trump's excessively (even by his own standards) over the top behavior. Trump is nearly alone in the ability to lose a debate in this day and age to Joe Biden. But he's proven the ability to do so. I do fear he is setting himself up to do that again.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:41 PM (4+3qm)
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That is plausible. But far from certain. That's what gets me about all this. It's as if everyone knows just what is going to happen.
I don't.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:41 PM (4+3qm)
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That is plausible. But far from certain. That's what gets me about all this. It's as if everyone knows just what is going to happen.
I don't.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (1bNHn)
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Chris Wallace talked over Trump and wouldn't let him talk about that.
But Jake Tapper is going to let Trump actually bring up Biden's corruption?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:27 PM (KRtlO)
Yes. Just like PA and MI and WI and AZ will not cheat this time around because reasons.
Chris Wallace talked over Trump and wouldn't let him talk about that.
But Jake Tapper is going to let Trump actually bring up Biden's corruption?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:27 PM (KRtlO)
Yes. Just like PA and MI and WI and AZ will not cheat this time around because reasons.
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Democrats are going for that Godfather's 1 ending.
That or they'll ice Biden.
With any other VP I could see them placing a call to Hillary's suicide hotline for Joe and then having a big McCain/Wellstone funeral about how we must all vote for the VP to continue his legacy, but that's completely inoperative with Kamala. She may be even more obviously off-putting than Hillary.
That or they'll ice Biden.
With any other VP I could see them placing a call to Hillary's suicide hotline for Joe and then having a big McCain/Wellstone funeral about how we must all vote for the VP to continue his legacy, but that's completely inoperative with Kamala. She may be even more obviously off-putting than Hillary.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (2ocoG)
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Speak n' Spell v 2.0
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
OOOOH - fancy!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
OOOOH - fancy!!
Posted by: Doof at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (PDruL)
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Biden has refused, by the way, the third debate, which was to air on Fox.
That's the real "Art of the Deal."
That's the real "Art of the Deal."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (KRtlO)
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I know, Trump is 19th-dimensional Brain Jedi and he must never, ever be questioned. He always knows the right thing to do, like not suing the state of PA for changing election rules *before* the election, and we must all scruntinize his decisions only to understand better how perfect and brilliant they all are.
Posted by: ace
Why is it that Trump needed to do this? The whole point of having a party is that they will do the work that you can't because you're busy...running the country. For four years it was Trump against the Dems, Trump against the media, Trump against the Deep State...the GOP...the RNC...etc. etc. Let's not forget that the national Bar associations forbade any competent lawyers from working on any of this stuff for Trump.
No, Trump's not a 19th-Level Jedi Master. He's simply better than the lot of mediocrities, grifters and mid-wits that have constituted the Republican Party for pretty much my entire adult life. Trump spoiled us, but only because he was the first one who showed any common sense, and a willingness to win.
Posted by: ace
Why is it that Trump needed to do this? The whole point of having a party is that they will do the work that you can't because you're busy...running the country. For four years it was Trump against the Dems, Trump against the media, Trump against the Deep State...the GOP...the RNC...etc. etc. Let's not forget that the national Bar associations forbade any competent lawyers from working on any of this stuff for Trump.
No, Trump's not a 19th-Level Jedi Master. He's simply better than the lot of mediocrities, grifters and mid-wits that have constituted the Republican Party for pretty much my entire adult life. Trump spoiled us, but only because he was the first one who showed any common sense, and a willingness to win.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (aoBEM)
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It occurs to me that Trump loves to spar with a combative press. Whatever rules are in place for this shit show I'm pretty sure Trump's got his own set to proverbially whip out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)
My favorite were his outside, impromptu pressers where he'd talk in a suit for an hour with reporters standing there complaining about the heat.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM
Mine as well. He could talk to the press pretty much anytime without notes or a teleprompter. If Trump stays in his lane and doesn't pull that stupid $hit he did in the 2020 debates always talking over biden he will do fine.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)
My favorite were his outside, impromptu pressers where he'd talk in a suit for an hour with reporters standing there complaining about the heat.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM
Mine as well. He could talk to the press pretty much anytime without notes or a teleprompter. If Trump stays in his lane and doesn't pull that stupid $hit he did in the 2020 debates always talking over biden he will do fine.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (QNSds)
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And yeah I am a cultist because Trump set the conditions to make this a win either way. He issued the challenge and Biden looked like a chicken. Suddenly Biden has changed his position - not Trump.
I would have said either way it goes was a good move for Trump. No debate under Biden conditions is a "safe" move. And what ace considers the only move. Okay.
But going to the debate is riskier. Yes, could turn out to be foolish. But if it doesn't, the greater the risk the greater the reward.
I would have said either way it goes was a good move for Trump. No debate under Biden conditions is a "safe" move. And what ace considers the only move. Okay.
But going to the debate is riskier. Yes, could turn out to be foolish. But if it doesn't, the greater the risk the greater the reward.
Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (96z/x)
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282 "Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?"
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Wasn't that the very day that Beau died in [insert location here]?
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Wasn't that the very day that Beau died in [insert location here]?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (PiwSw)
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We have the truth on our side. An early debate where Trump can get his/our message out (he's kind of good at that or is he a dumbshit at that too?) while all the prosecutions etc are ramping up is not a bad thing. Sorry.
The average idiot is not watching his rallies.
The average idiot is not watching his rallies.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (8ebbP)
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Rush Limbaugh used to say that the biggest mistakes are made in a fearful mindset. (Remember that he and DJT were friends.)
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Scared money never wins.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (lCWOD)
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You have to admire Trump's (and El Rushbo's) interminable & indefatigable optimism. He's bound and determined here to make lemonade out of lemons.
No surprise really, given that he was raised with Dr. Norman Vincent Peale (AKA "The Power of Positive Thinking") as his pastor.
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Scared money never wins.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (lCWOD)
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You have to admire Trump's (and El Rushbo's) interminable & indefatigable optimism. He's bound and determined here to make lemonade out of lemons.
No surprise really, given that he was raised with Dr. Norman Vincent Peale (AKA "The Power of Positive Thinking") as his pastor.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (h4Cdp)
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>>>Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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The world gave Putin the opportunity to occupy our country, but now, right now, the world can help us," Zelensky said in an interview with an ABC journalist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
send ca$h
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (AwYPR)
"I could really go for an estate in the Maldives too."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
send ca$h
Posted by: BignJames at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (AwYPR)
"I could really go for an estate in the Maldives too."
Posted by: spindrift at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (OguvZ)
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There are reports on X that Z-Man and freinds already spent the aid money on themselves instead of fortifying Kharkiv.
All the money allocated for defensive fortifications around Kharkov was stolen - there was an article a couple of days ago in Ukrainskya Pravda explaining in detail how this was done.
The BBC interviewed a Ukrainian commander confirming that there are no defensive fortifications in the area.
All the money allocated for defensive fortifications around Kharkov was stolen - there was an article a couple of days ago in Ukrainskya Pravda explaining in detail how this was done.
The BBC interviewed a Ukrainian commander confirming that there are no defensive fortifications in the area.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (uxCna)
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He's showing strength fwiw.
Will they ask Joe why he pulled out of the 88 run?
Fuckin ridiculous.
He's showing strength fwiw.
Will they ask Joe why he pulled out of the 88 run?
Fuckin ridiculous.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (et1vG)
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suck a dick, Keyboard Kommando
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)
How'd you do?
Shot a 117.
Oof.
Yeah, but you should've seen my drive on 17. Slight draw, 300 yards out. Dead center of the fairway.
Oh yeah? How'd it turn out?
Chunked my next two and then three-putt.
suck a dick, Keyboard Kommando
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)
How'd you do?
Shot a 117.
Oof.
Yeah, but you should've seen my drive on 17. Slight draw, 300 yards out. Dead center of the fairway.
Oh yeah? How'd it turn out?
Chunked my next two and then three-putt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KbCG3)
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Forget the debate. This is a huge win for their side.
The announcement itself casts doubt on Trump's judgement.
The announcement itself casts doubt on Trump's judgement.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (RIvkX)
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Just imagine Trump waxing extemporaneously on the debate stage and distracting from the issues.
All Grandpashitmypants has to do is string together a few coherent sentences and not look like the caricature Trump has fostered for the last three years and he wins. Then we're back to the Orange Man Bad days.
All Grandpashitmypants has to do is string together a few coherent sentences and not look like the caricature Trump has fostered for the last three years and he wins. Then we're back to the Orange Man Bad days.
Posted by: Vengeance at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (8/E19)
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280 I generally think most of Trump's calls look like the wrong decision...but they usually end up working out well for him, especially in PR/showmanship stuff. Is it luck, crazy work after the fact?
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The fact that he's not the president right now is a pretty big indication that he didn't make the best choices in 2020.
I know: stolen blah blah blah. But if that's the excuse, then why are we even having this conversation. He's going to get creamed again.
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The fact that he's not the president right now is a pretty big indication that he didn't make the best choices in 2020.
I know: stolen blah blah blah. But if that's the excuse, then why are we even having this conversation. He's going to get creamed again.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (7zRkJ)
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Sigh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (2QA3G)
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300 >>>Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Whoa. Maybe I'll check back later
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Whoa. Maybe I'll check back later
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (Akjoo)
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I recall all the times we set our hair on fire over something Trump said or did during his presidency and then it would turn out that he knew what he was doing. Then at the next nerve-wracking incident, we'd set our hair on fire again. It's like we never learned.
I've really enjoyed Trump's jiu jitsu moves during his NY trials, turning them into campaign opportunities and gaining support. He's got mental and emotional strength.
I've really enjoyed Trump's jiu jitsu moves during his NY trials, turning them into campaign opportunities and gaining support. He's got mental and emotional strength.
Posted by: Emmie at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (Sf2cq)
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Still think anything before Aug convention is jumping the gun, I an still thinking he will get the hook
Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (CSSPV)
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300 >>>Like that one shot in golf that keeps you coming back........
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Not sure he was doing that but I do appreciate how valiantly you told him to suck it.
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Not sure he was doing that but I do appreciate how valiantly you told him to suck it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (KbCG3)
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Shove that 50 year farmer in the recruitment van so that he may fight for his freedom!
Posted by: Zeeeeelinskeee at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (V58iV)
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From Jeff Clark on Twitter:
Good grief.
When Cohen applying for supervised release:
He used AI to do legal research and just admitted to Todd Blanche AI made up three fictional cases.
Without determining whether they were real he sent them to his lawyer for use in an official filing.
This is legal negligence on steroids.
And it shows that he’s asleep to general cultural and legal news as well. Any lawyer worth his salt knows AI can’t write real legal briefs and that several lawyers have been sanctioned for using AI for that very reason.
This man wanted to be Attorney General or White House Counsel. Take that in.
He uses ChatGPT or the like to find legal authorities. Not Westlaw, not LEXIS, not FindLaw, not Cornell’s website. He uses AI.
Just jaw dropping.
http://tiny.cc/qwi4yz
Good grief.
When Cohen applying for supervised release:
He used AI to do legal research and just admitted to Todd Blanche AI made up three fictional cases.
Without determining whether they were real he sent them to his lawyer for use in an official filing.
This is legal negligence on steroids.
And it shows that he’s asleep to general cultural and legal news as well. Any lawyer worth his salt knows AI can’t write real legal briefs and that several lawyers have been sanctioned for using AI for that very reason.
This man wanted to be Attorney General or White House Counsel. Take that in.
He uses ChatGPT or the like to find legal authorities. Not Westlaw, not LEXIS, not FindLaw, not Cornell’s website. He uses AI.
Just jaw dropping.
http://tiny.cc/qwi4yz
Posted by: bonhomme at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (Odg76)
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Trump: "I really wanted a deal. A big beautiful deal. But Sleepy Joe Biden wanted to sit through the debate. He gets tired easily, everyone can see that. So I like to deal. Big deals, the biggest. So I said if he pees in a bottle after the debate then he has a deal. But a nurse has to watch. He likes to be watched apparently. Ask that Secret Service agent. I heard she laughed all day. So there's no big beautiful debate."
Trump: "I really wanted a deal. A big beautiful deal. But Sleepy Joe Biden wanted to sit through the debate. He gets tired easily, everyone can see that. So I like to deal. Big deals, the biggest. So I said if he pees in a bottle after the debate then he has a deal. But a nurse has to watch. He likes to be watched apparently. Ask that Secret Service agent. I heard she laughed all day. So there's no big beautiful debate."
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (RKVpM)
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Trump doesn't understand that not a single supporter can stomach watching this, and all those who hate him want to see him squirm.
If Trump thinks this will convert a single viewer, he's dumber than we already think he is.
In which case, all he has going for him is chutzpah and stamina and money.
If Trump thinks this will convert a single viewer, he's dumber than we already think he is.
In which case, all he has going for him is chutzpah and stamina and money.
Posted by: Coki at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (Wkrcf)
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>>Not sure he was doing that but I do appreciate how valiantly you told him to suck it.
He literally said "the coward cannot understand the mind of the valliant."
What do you think he was saying, dude?
He literally said "the coward cannot understand the mind of the valliant."
What do you think he was saying, dude?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (KRtlO)
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He's going to get creamed again.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (7zRkJ)
Heh.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (7zRkJ)
Heh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (2QA3G)
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Still think anything before Aug convention is jumping the gun, I an still thinking he will get the hook
Posted by: Skip
Trump? Oh, yeah. I approve.
Posted by: Skip
Trump? Oh, yeah. I approve.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (IG4Id)
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Immoderate Debates.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (d04cU)
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282 "Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?"
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
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Bulwark wives like three-on-one, too.
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
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Bulwark wives like three-on-one, too.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (1bNHn)
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Sticks head back in... Is it safe ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
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[Laughs hystericall]
It is kinda amusing, though, to see people that pretty much agree on 99% on policy get all hot and bothered and pull knives and blackjacks and "I know you are but what am I"-ing in each other's faces whenever Trump is discussed.
I was called a "commie," FFS, merely for saying I don't think this was some blunder by Trump. A commie! Me! The most devout capitalist and commie-hater there is.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
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[Laughs hystericall]
It is kinda amusing, though, to see people that pretty much agree on 99% on policy get all hot and bothered and pull knives and blackjacks and "I know you are but what am I"-ing in each other's faces whenever Trump is discussed.
I was called a "commie," FFS, merely for saying I don't think this was some blunder by Trump. A commie! Me! The most devout capitalist and commie-hater there is.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (iFTx/)
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I am curious if people who are now so skeptical of Trump were similarly skeptical of Bush and Romney.
I was skeptical of both. Bush: a not fully recovered alcoholic plus nepotism; Romney: said all the right things, but too slick, just like Kerry.
Anyway, if people are more skeptical of Trump now than of Romney then, I am curious about the reason for the difference. Could it be the relentless press campaign about Trump? Or is Trump, finally, the second coming of Hitler?
I was skeptical of both. Bush: a not fully recovered alcoholic plus nepotism; Romney: said all the right things, but too slick, just like Kerry.
Anyway, if people are more skeptical of Trump now than of Romney then, I am curious about the reason for the difference. Could it be the relentless press campaign about Trump? Or is Trump, finally, the second coming of Hitler?
Posted by: PG at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (gQbO4)
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All DJT has to do is have someone in the audience with a "device" disruput Joe's earpiece feed.
Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (rj6Yv)
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>>> 185 Why do all the people who call Trump an idiot and stupid etc think the *only* alternative is Trump being a Godly Master of Everything? I don't understand it.
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
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It's the "false dichotomy" logical fallacy. Only the two extremes are presented as options without ever considering or presenting third, fourth, or fifth options.
It's a very lazy debating tactic.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (BpYfr)
Hey, wait a minute...
Yes we used to joke about God Emperor and there were way too many "trust the process" people when things looked better - I argued with them and got insulted repeatedly for not approving of certain Trump decisions like Barr - but I'm sorry there *is* an in between and pretending there isn't is just basic bitch trolling.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:26 PM (8ebbP)
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It's the "false dichotomy" logical fallacy. Only the two extremes are presented as options without ever considering or presenting third, fourth, or fifth options.
It's a very lazy debating tactic.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2024 12:30 PM (BpYfr)
Hey, wait a minute...
Posted by: 9mm vs .45, Marianne vs Ginger, longbows vs crossbows at May 16, 2024 12:48 PM (llON8)
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"it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate, it's an argument at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (qfLjt)
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298 We have the truth on our side. An early debate where Trump can get his/our message out (he's kind of good at that or is he a dumbshit at that too?) while all the prosecutions etc are ramping up is not a bad thing.
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None of that precludes him from saying that he wants one of the debates to be on Foc. Like he could have proposed a very reasonable deal where Biden picks any network he wants for one debate and Trump picks the second but he didn't even try
298 We have the truth on our side. An early debate where Trump can get his/our message out (he's kind of good at that or is he a dumbshit at that too?) while all the prosecutions etc are ramping up is not a bad thing.
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None of that precludes him from saying that he wants one of the debates to be on Foc. Like he could have proposed a very reasonable deal where Biden picks any network he wants for one debate and Trump picks the second but he didn't even try
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (7zRkJ)
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Posted by: Coki at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (Wkrcf)
Have you ever posted on non Trump threads, because that's all I recall of your name?
Have you ever posted on non Trump threads, because that's all I recall of your name?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (XkYcA)
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So is Candy Crowley, but she had a profound impact on the 2012 election.
Posted by: Archimedes
Objection, facts not in evidence. If you care to go back to the head to head comparison, Romney took the RCP lead in October when the three debates occurred and held it until just before election day. Scant evidence that debates hurt Romney and perhaps all three helped him. He gained the RCP lead over Obama for most of October. Link goes to RCP polling summary data chart of 2012 presidential race including timing https://tinyurl.com/4cxu5at6
Posted by: Archimedes
Objection, facts not in evidence. If you care to go back to the head to head comparison, Romney took the RCP lead in October when the three debates occurred and held it until just before election day. Scant evidence that debates hurt Romney and perhaps all three helped him. He gained the RCP lead over Obama for most of October. Link goes to RCP polling summary data chart of 2012 presidential race including timing https://tinyurl.com/4cxu5at6
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (8QJ54)
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The X account "Zionists in Film" has called out Keanu Reeves — the poster child for Hollywood civility — for transgressions: Attending a 2014 Malibu party where Benjamin Netanyahu was also in attendance, and being trained by an ex-Mossad agent for combat scenes in the “John Wick” franchise.
Need more? Reeves failed to speak out when the Israeli government used a pic from “The Matrix” in an X post last year. Never mind that the actor didn’t actually “like” or endorse the post and probably has no idea it even exists.
... boo hoo
There was a ceasefire in effect on 6-Oct-2023 but the next day a group of barbarians broke that deal.
Need more? Reeves failed to speak out when the Israeli government used a pic from “The Matrix” in an X post last year. Never mind that the actor didn’t actually “like” or endorse the post and probably has no idea it even exists.
... boo hoo
There was a ceasefire in effect on 6-Oct-2023 but the next day a group of barbarians broke that deal.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (RHGPo)
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293 Biden has refused, by the way, the third debate, which was to air on Fox.
That's the real "Art of the Deal."
Posted by: ace
Why? I thought Fox was GOPe Nevertrump controlled opposition that wants to help Biden and hurt Trump behind the scenes?
That's the real "Art of the Deal."
Posted by: ace
Why? I thought Fox was GOPe Nevertrump controlled opposition that wants to help Biden and hurt Trump behind the scenes?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (JCZqz)
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317 >>Not sure he was doing that but I do appreciate how valiantly you told him to suck it.
He literally said "the coward cannot understand the mind of the valliant."
What do you think he was saying, dude?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (KRtlO)
His full comment mentioned Biden being fearful. That's who he was calling a coward.
He literally said "the coward cannot understand the mind of the valliant."
What do you think he was saying, dude?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (KRtlO)
His full comment mentioned Biden being fearful. That's who he was calling a coward.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:50 PM (KbCG3)
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First question for Trump will be: “You fucking goddamn asshole. You are not a member of the political party with the sole, exclusive right to rule the United States as it and it alone sees fit. Now, you fucking goddamn asshole, why aren’t you thanking the President for not throwing you in jail for life for belonging to an illegal political party, you fucking goddamn asshole?”
For Biden: “Mr. President, even your farts are sweet! Will you continue your policy of personally ensuring the sun will rise and set every day? Seeing that you are the one in charge of making thy happen.”
What, was John Harwood not available?
For Biden: “Mr. President, even your farts are sweet! Will you continue your policy of personally ensuring the sun will rise and set every day? Seeing that you are the one in charge of making thy happen.”
What, was John Harwood not available?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 16, 2024 12:50 PM (84PaW)
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Not necessarily true here. Biden's prezzie approval hit 38.7 in Gallup polling last month and I don't see economic skies brightening very much for him going forward. Same with the border, crime, protests, and so on. I think Nixon post Watergate, Harry Truman in his final year, and GWB in 2008 after the meltdown had lower Presidential approval rates at this point in a term.
Posted by: whig
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There's always the 30% on either end. What's unusual is that the undecided middle, that's always late, has made up its mind.
Not necessarily true here. Biden's prezzie approval hit 38.7 in Gallup polling last month and I don't see economic skies brightening very much for him going forward. Same with the border, crime, protests, and so on. I think Nixon post Watergate, Harry Truman in his final year, and GWB in 2008 after the meltdown had lower Presidential approval rates at this point in a term.
Posted by: whig
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There's always the 30% on either end. What's unusual is that the undecided middle, that's always late, has made up its mind.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 12:50 PM (lCWOD)
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"Now that we've wrapped up our first 30 minutes on the subject of Racism and White Supremacy in America, we'll move on to the next half hour segment on the Climate Crisis. As a reminder, candidates, we will have to stop after 30 minutes so we can leave the remaining hour for a discussion of Reproductive Freedom and Abortion Rights. There will be no interruptions or off-topic discussion, unless someone wishes to talk about how fragile Our Precious Democracy is, and was almost lost on January 6."
Really can't wait for this.
Really can't wait for this.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:50 PM (4+3qm)
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And it's not like there are many combat-capable men in Ukraine now anyway.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (2ocoG)
True, a good chunk of them are in Iowa now. (Not kidding, I've talked here before about a missionary who is resettling able-bodied men and their families here.)
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:42 PM (2ocoG)
True, a good chunk of them are in Iowa now. (Not kidding, I've talked here before about a missionary who is resettling able-bodied men and their families here.)
Posted by: pookysgirl has mixed feeling about this at May 16, 2024 12:50 PM (dtlDP)
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Who was President when Putin annexed the Crimea and did nothing? That guy was an idiot. What? Whoops. Whoopsie!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (PiwSw)
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329 Objection, facts not in evidence. If you care to go back to the head to head comparison, Romney took the RCP lead in October when the three debates occurred and held it until just before election day. Scant evidence that debates hurt Romney and perhaps all three helped him. He gained the RCP lead over Obama for most of October. Link goes to RCP polling summary data chart of 2012 presidential race including timing https://tinyurl.com/4cxu5at6
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (8QJ54)
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I think only the politically committed care about debates.
I think those who watch debates and are "persuaded" were looking for reasons for choices they were already going to make.
I think elections have been intentionally broken by the elite, and the concentrated, nationwide effort started after the 2010 midterms.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (8QJ54)
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I think only the politically committed care about debates.
I think those who watch debates and are "persuaded" were looking for reasons for choices they were already going to make.
I think elections have been intentionally broken by the elite, and the concentrated, nationwide effort started after the 2010 midterms.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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When you have the truth on your side any chance to tell it directly to the voters is a good thing. If he was a regular lying grifting shitass Republican who is terrible on his feet I would say this is a shitty idea.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (8ebbP)
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As for a 'conservative' moderator on the panel, meh. Those idiots usually want to prove how above the fray they are. "I'm not biased" and proceed to ask questions just as stupid as the commies.
Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (rj6Yv)
Good point, that. Better to have "moderators" that are known Commie cocksuckers.
Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (rj6Yv)
Good point, that. Better to have "moderators" that are known Commie cocksuckers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (Bijxa)
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I wish it was DeSantis. I wished it was Cruz.
But we got Trump and for all his faults, the economy was good, we were energy independent, the world was at peace, sort of. We had money to burn on ridicuous things like green energy.
In three years that has all gone down the drain.
Normal people have had it and if Trump is hte only choice, you know, the lesser of two evils, the polls are starting to show the answer.
But we got Trump and for all his faults, the economy was good, we were energy independent, the world was at peace, sort of. We had money to burn on ridicuous things like green energy.
In three years that has all gone down the drain.
Normal people have had it and if Trump is hte only choice, you know, the lesser of two evils, the polls are starting to show the answer.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (t/2Uw)
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Trump at the very least needs to insist that CNN get a different moderator other than Jake Tapper.
Tapper despises Trump and he talks about his disgust for Trump every time he opens his mouth.
Tapper despises Trump and he talks about his disgust for Trump every time he opens his mouth.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (NpAcC)
343
Thanks to Bidenflation, Dow passes 40,000 for first time
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (RHGPo)
344
Next debate should be on The Young Turks with Cenk and Rachel Maddow hosting.
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (Y6Wgg)
345
117 Trapper's first question to Trump
Trapper: "Donnie, do you think you are going enjoy anal sex when you are in prison?"
Posted by: Lost in Space at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (k13a0)
Do you like Gladiator movies?
Trapper: "Donnie, do you think you are going enjoy anal sex when you are in prison?"
Posted by: Lost in Space at May 16, 2024 12:20 PM (k13a0)
Do you like Gladiator movies?
Posted by: Inogame at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (53oGX)
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For the slower amongst us:
CNN will control not only the mike but the ability to frame every point as an attack on Trump. There will be no questions of Bidet presidency, his corruption, his senility.
There's nothing to stop CNN from inserting AI speech into Trump's replies. You people have no idea what's coming.
CNN will control not only the mike but the ability to frame every point as an attack on Trump. There will be no questions of Bidet presidency, his corruption, his senility.
There's nothing to stop CNN from inserting AI speech into Trump's replies. You people have no idea what's coming.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (IG4Id)
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282 "Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?"
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Hey! That’s MY day!!!
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Hey! That’s MY day!!!
Posted by: Shirley Jackson at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (84PaW)
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Yeah, but you should've seen my drive on 17. Slight draw, 300 yards out. Dead center of the fairway.
Oh yeah? How'd it turn out?
Chunked my next two and then three-putt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KbCG3)
You and I have played together?
Yeah, but you should've seen my drive on 17. Slight draw, 300 yards out. Dead center of the fairway.
Oh yeah? How'd it turn out?
Chunked my next two and then three-putt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KbCG3)
You and I have played together?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)
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297 282 "Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?"
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Wasn't that the very day that Beau died in [insert location here]?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (PiwSw)
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Beau died in Fani's snizz?
I hadn't heard that.
Because he's behind in the polls and because three-on-one is Democrat fun.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Wasn't that the very day that Beau died in [insert location here]?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (PiwSw)
______
Beau died in Fani's snizz?
I hadn't heard that.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (1bNHn)
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Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KbCG3)
I like Ray Romano’s quip when he was on Golf Channel.
‘ The good news is I blasted that drive 280 into the fairway. The bad news is it was another hole’s fairway.
I like Ray Romano’s quip when he was on Golf Channel.
‘ The good news is I blasted that drive 280 into the fairway. The bad news is it was another hole’s fairway.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (MNhXM)
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>>>Why? I thought Fox was GOPe Nevertrump controlled opposition that wants to help Biden and hurt Trump behind the scenes?
It's Biden showing that he will pick the time and place of battle, whereas Trump surrenders this power to Biden.
Classic Sun Tzu move!
It's Biden showing that he will pick the time and place of battle, whereas Trump surrenders this power to Biden.
Classic Sun Tzu move!
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (KRtlO)
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There will be no interruptions or off-topic discussion, unless someone wishes to talk about how fragile Our Precious Democracy is, and was almost lost on January 6."
Really can't wait for this.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA
I was going to mention you left off "Stopping the Ukranian and Gazan genocides", but both wars may be done by then.
Really can't wait for this.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA
I was going to mention you left off "Stopping the Ukranian and Gazan genocides", but both wars may be done by then.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (JCZqz)
353
The Mirage Hotel and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip, and its instantly recognizable volcano, is soon shutting down after more than three decades in business. The 3,000-room resort will cease operations on July 17 as it undergoes a three-year renovation that wipes away any markings of the Mirage and its tropical theme.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
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350 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KbCG3)
I like Ray Romano’s quip when he was on Golf Channel.
‘ The good news is I blasted that drive 280 into the fairway. The bad news is it was another hole’s fairway.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (MNhXM)
Short grass is short grass. Just say something like, "That's a good angle in," and you're all set.
I like Ray Romano’s quip when he was on Golf Channel.
‘ The good news is I blasted that drive 280 into the fairway. The bad news is it was another hole’s fairway.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (MNhXM)
Short grass is short grass. Just say something like, "That's a good angle in," and you're all set.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (KbCG3)
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No, I don't think that he should have agreed to this and if this turns out to be a big mistake, then Trump will have to deal with it.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (oiNtH)
Name one Trump voter you know who would change votes based on whatever may occur in Thunderdome.
I don't know any. He literally has nothing to lose.
Donnie gets to Captain Queeg Joetard on national TV with no judge to gag him. The worst they can do is cut to commercial and shut him up.
Total win-win.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 12:37 PM (oiNtH)
Name one Trump voter you know who would change votes based on whatever may occur in Thunderdome.
I don't know any. He literally has nothing to lose.
Donnie gets to Captain Queeg Joetard on national TV with no judge to gag him. The worst they can do is cut to commercial and shut him up.
Total win-win.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (MkuC5)
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Fox right now is so anti-Trump he's taking revenge. He does that, in case no one else noticed. No show, no ratings bump for Fox.
Fox right now is so anti-Trump he's taking revenge. He does that, in case no one else noticed. No show, no ratings bump for Fox.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RKVpM)
357
So either Trunp is going to beat up on a senile Biden or nobody cares about debates so if Tapper beats up Trunp it’s no big deal.
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (Y6Wgg)
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I just tried to explain why you don't understand Donald Trump. And why you're at odds with most of your readers.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
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Fox is a terrible place for a debate, for us.
Everyone and their grandmother knows CNN hates Trump. The smart play for Biden would be to go into purported enemy territory.
But he can't make the smart play because he lives in a world of fear and lies. And one second off script could end him.
Everyone and their grandmother knows CNN hates Trump. The smart play for Biden would be to go into purported enemy territory.
But he can't make the smart play because he lives in a world of fear and lies. And one second off script could end him.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (8ebbP)
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The Mirage Hotel and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip, and its instantly recognizable volcano, is soon shutting down after more than three decades in business. The 3,000-room resort will cease operations on July 17 as it undergoes a three-year renovation that wipes away any markings of the Mirage and its tropical theme.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
Sad.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
Sad.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (2QA3G)
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A debate between these two should look more like a debate between the PM and the Leader of the Opposition in the UK House of Commons.
Posted by: Catch Thirty- Thr33 at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (84PaW)
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358 I just tried to explain why you don't understand Donald Trump. And why you're at odds with most of your readers.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
Sorry ace, I take it back.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
Sorry ace, I take it back.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (KbCG3)
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I honestly don't see how this serves any beneficial purpose for PDT.
Posted by: Anything's possible but...geez at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (Wc83a)
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The guy's already being railroaded with fake prosecution, I doubt CNN being evil, and biased, cocksuckers rises to the level of shock or surprise.
This is about getting his face, and Biden's stroke-induced face, in front of LIV.
This is about getting his face, and Biden's stroke-induced face, in front of LIV.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
365
Taking flak cause I'm right over the target.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (JQiMb)
366
Biden has refused, by the way, the third debate, which was to air on Fox.
That's the real "Art of the Deal."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (KRtlO)
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I suppose on strategy that could have been employed is Trump insisting on not bypassing (which is what the Junta did here) the "nonpartisan" Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) that has organized and hosted general election presidential debates for decades.
In lieu of that, he could have still decided to these two -- although I can't imagine Biden will be the nominee after the DNC Convention in August unless they're absolutely certain they can Steal it again and rub our faces in feces with this decomposing potted plant again.
That's the real "Art of the Deal."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:45 PM (KRtlO)
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I suppose on strategy that could have been employed is Trump insisting on not bypassing (which is what the Junta did here) the "nonpartisan" Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) that has organized and hosted general election presidential debates for decades.
In lieu of that, he could have still decided to these two -- although I can't imagine Biden will be the nominee after the DNC Convention in August unless they're absolutely certain they can Steal it again and rub our faces in feces with this decomposing potted plant again.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (h4Cdp)
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I have instructed Donald to turn the other cheek.
Posted by: The Voice of God at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (DsA2n)
368
"Why does Joe want a debate on June 27th?"
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Hey! That’s MY day!!!
Posted by: Shirley Jackson at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (84PaW)
I can't believe I got that reference.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 16, 2024 12:43 PM (qUkBO)
Hey! That’s MY day!!!
Posted by: Shirley Jackson at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (84PaW)
I can't believe I got that reference.
Posted by: pookysgirl didn't like the ending but thought it was well-written at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (dtlDP)
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For the slower amongst us:
CNN will control not only the mike but the ability to frame every point as an attack on Trump. There will be no questions of Bidet presidency, his corruption, his senility.
There's nothing to stop CNN from inserting AI speech into Trump's replies. You people have no idea what's coming.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM
Skynet? Judgement Day?
CNN will control not only the mike but the ability to frame every point as an attack on Trump. There will be no questions of Bidet presidency, his corruption, his senility.
There's nothing to stop CNN from inserting AI speech into Trump's replies. You people have no idea what's coming.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM
Skynet? Judgement Day?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (QNSds)
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'A police source describes the coke bag as "larger than Don Henley's discreet on-stage coke snifter" but "smaller than Hunter Biden's weekender crack satchel."'
This made me laugh
This made me laugh
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (xcxpd)
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I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Oh I'm not bashing you. Your way with words is legendary.
Even when I get dragged by you it's a slight honor for you do dig into your bag and throw epic teardowns......
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Oh I'm not bashing you. Your way with words is legendary.
Even when I get dragged by you it's a slight honor for you do dig into your bag and throw epic teardowns......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)
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President Trunp, the day you led an insurrection against our democracy was a sad day in history. Do you feel remorse for literally attacking our country?
-Dana
-Dana
Posted by: Montec at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (Y6Wgg)
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337 Who was President when Putin annexed the Crimea and did nothing? That guy was an idiot. What? Whoops. Whoopsie!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (PiwSw)
Never happened, you liar.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 16, 2024 12:51 PM (PiwSw)
Never happened, you liar.
Posted by: U,S. Media at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (84PaW)
374
Fox right now is so anti-Trump he's taking revenge. He does that, in case no one else noticed. No show, no ratings bump for Fox.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RKVpM)
*******
I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RKVpM)
*******
I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (NpAcC)
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302 There are reports on X that Z-Man and freinds already spent the aid money on themselves instead of fortifying Kharkiv.
All the money allocated for defensive fortifications around Kharkov was stolen - there was an article a couple of days ago in Ukrainskya Pravda explaining in detail how this was done.
The BBC interviewed a Ukrainian commander confirming that there are no defensive fortifications in the area.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (uxCna)
Building and manning fortifications all along a 500-mile front is impossible for Ukraine. They have to rely on intel to provide the most likely near-future Russian attack points, in-time to adequately mine, fortify, and man against them. Predict wrong, and the Russians gain an advantage. The Russians were and probably still remain masters of battle zone maskirova.
All the money allocated for defensive fortifications around Kharkov was stolen - there was an article a couple of days ago in Ukrainskya Pravda explaining in detail how this was done.
The BBC interviewed a Ukrainian commander confirming that there are no defensive fortifications in the area.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (uxCna)
Building and manning fortifications all along a 500-mile front is impossible for Ukraine. They have to rely on intel to provide the most likely near-future Russian attack points, in-time to adequately mine, fortify, and man against them. Predict wrong, and the Russians gain an advantage. The Russians were and probably still remain masters of battle zone maskirova.
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (5fDan)
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"It is always wise to underestimate your opponents, especially in life-or-death struggles." -- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (KRtlO)
I don't view it as a struggle of any importance, let alone life-or-death importance. I just think he isn't underestimating these people. I think even if he has a lousy performance it will be better than theirs. That's all. That's my bet.
"It is always wise to underestimate your opponents, especially in life-or-death struggles." -- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:39 PM (KRtlO)
I don't view it as a struggle of any importance, let alone life-or-death importance. I just think he isn't underestimating these people. I think even if he has a lousy performance it will be better than theirs. That's all. That's my bet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
377
Isn't it about time for Mannix and Fenelon to post dueling hot babe pics?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (1bNHn)
378
Trump always sees things superficially. He sees dementia man tripping over his dick all day long and thinks he's easy pickings. But the fact is if Joe Doots get through his performative debate without visibly shitting himself or sucking his thumb, he wins. Whether it's ego, or hubris, Trump fails to understand those type of tangential, yet important issues.
Posted by: Vengeance at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (8/E19)
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328 Posted by: Coki at May 16, 2024 12:47 PM (Wkrcf)
Have you ever posted on non Trump threads, because that's all I recall of your name?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (XkYcA)
I only post when I'm in a bad mood. You won't see many of my posts. This particular decision of Trump's is frustrating.
Have you ever posted on non Trump threads, because that's all I recall of your name?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 12:49 PM (XkYcA)
I only post when I'm in a bad mood. You won't see many of my posts. This particular decision of Trump's is frustrating.
Posted by: Coki at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (Wkrcf)
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>>>There's nothing to stop CNN from inserting AI speech into Trump's replies. You people have no idea what's coming.
Biden insisted thIat the moderators have the power to cut off Trump's mike. Supposedly this is so Trump can't Interrupt Biden. (Biden interrupts every debate opponent like crazy, of course.)
Tapper and Bash will mute Trump's mic when they "correct" his "disinformation.
A lot of you talk about "getting serious about fighting the left" and "throwing the old rules out the window."
You seem unaware that the left actually believes this -- they HAVE thrown all the rules out the window, they don't just talk about it -- and will stop at nothing to "win" the debate, and the election, for Biden.
They'll be praised as heroes by liberals. They will never have to buy their own drinks or dinner again.
Biden insisted thIat the moderators have the power to cut off Trump's mike. Supposedly this is so Trump can't Interrupt Biden. (Biden interrupts every debate opponent like crazy, of course.)
Tapper and Bash will mute Trump's mic when they "correct" his "disinformation.
A lot of you talk about "getting serious about fighting the left" and "throwing the old rules out the window."
You seem unaware that the left actually believes this -- they HAVE thrown all the rules out the window, they don't just talk about it -- and will stop at nothing to "win" the debate, and the election, for Biden.
They'll be praised as heroes by liberals. They will never have to buy their own drinks or dinner again.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (KRtlO)
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374 I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (NpAcC)
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I've never watched FoxNews in any material amount, but throwing out the idea of, "They're doing it for the ratings because being anti-Trump and firing Tucker was a really bad idea" is not a terrible idea.
They're media whores, and I honestly don't care which side they seem to defend on a day to day basis. The whole cable news model is dying, anyway.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (NpAcC)
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I've never watched FoxNews in any material amount, but throwing out the idea of, "They're doing it for the ratings because being anti-Trump and firing Tucker was a really bad idea" is not a terrible idea.
They're media whores, and I honestly don't care which side they seem to defend on a day to day basis. The whole cable news model is dying, anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
382
So. A whore and a fag.
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (v0R5T)
383
just tried to explain why you don't understand Donald Trump. And why you're at odds with most of your readers.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
False choice. You don’t get to choose what is fact to support your conclusion. It’s just opinion and ace rejected it with extreme prejudice.
Frankly my opinion is that Trump is bold but he’s not brave. There is a difference but people seem to see them as synonyms.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
False choice. You don’t get to choose what is fact to support your conclusion. It’s just opinion and ace rejected it with extreme prejudice.
Frankly my opinion is that Trump is bold but he’s not brave. There is a difference but people seem to see them as synonyms.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: DaveA at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (PMJuY)
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I think only the politically committed care about debates.
I think those who watch debates and are "persuaded" were looking for reasons for choices they were already going to make.
I think elections have been intentionally broken by the elite, and the concentrated, nationwide effort started after the 2010 midterms.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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When it is an open seat, possibly debates might make the difference but debates where there is an incumbent tend historically to be a referendum on the incumbent.
Late debates in October (or now in September due to early voting in some states) are more likely to sway the race than in the heat of summer.
Political pundits and political communication types basically believe the public are idiots and will swallow anything. That may work when times are great but trying to shine a turd with purty words doesn't work so well when the incumbent is seen as the source of the ills.
Kind of like primitive belief demonstrated in Excalibur (the movie) that because the king reflected the health of the land--if the health of the realm sucks then the king is at fault and should die/be replaced to restore the health of the realm.
I think those who watch debates and are "persuaded" were looking for reasons for choices they were already going to make.
I think elections have been intentionally broken by the elite, and the concentrated, nationwide effort started after the 2010 midterms.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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When it is an open seat, possibly debates might make the difference but debates where there is an incumbent tend historically to be a referendum on the incumbent.
Late debates in October (or now in September due to early voting in some states) are more likely to sway the race than in the heat of summer.
Political pundits and political communication types basically believe the public are idiots and will swallow anything. That may work when times are great but trying to shine a turd with purty words doesn't work so well when the incumbent is seen as the source of the ills.
Kind of like primitive belief demonstrated in Excalibur (the movie) that because the king reflected the health of the land--if the health of the realm sucks then the king is at fault and should die/be replaced to restore the health of the realm.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (8QJ54)
386
This is about getting his face, and Biden's stroke-induced face, in front of LIV.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
and, never backing down.
I think it's simply Trump has the same smod attitude that keeps so many here getting up in the morning.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
and, never backing down.
I think it's simply Trump has the same smod attitude that keeps so many here getting up in the morning.
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (F3Dlr)
387
That's my bet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
NEVER bet against a guy whose last name is Dice.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
NEVER bet against a guy whose last name is Dice.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (MkuC5)
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365 Taking flak cause I'm right over the target.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (JQiMb)
Take some time from making sure every wall in your house has an 11x16 portrait of Trump and answer me this:
How does this approval of moderators help Trump?
I do want Trump to win but this doesn’t look good.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (JQiMb)
Take some time from making sure every wall in your house has an 11x16 portrait of Trump and answer me this:
How does this approval of moderators help Trump?
I do want Trump to win but this doesn’t look good.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (84PaW)
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President Biden, your popularity seems to have the momentum of a runaway train. To what do you owe your popularity among the voters.
Posted by: Stateless at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (jvJvP)
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376 I don't view it as a struggle of any importance, let alone life-or-death importance. I just think he isn't underestimating these people. I think even if he has a lousy performance it will be better than theirs. That's all. That's my bet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
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What I imagine will happen is that Trump will have a forum to address common media narratives that will get pushed no matter what.
Eh. Democrats will still have to break election laws to cheat at massive, massive scale.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
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What I imagine will happen is that Trump will have a forum to address common media narratives that will get pushed no matter what.
Eh. Democrats will still have to break election laws to cheat at massive, massive scale.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
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I honestly don't see how this serves any beneficial purpose for PDT.
Posted by: Anything's possible but...geez at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (Wc83a)
Voters get to hear his message straight from the horse's mouth. In an *obviously* unfair fight which is something that any reasonable person can detect.
People really don't remember how "impossible" it was going to be for Trump to beat Hillary. And at the time I actually said they wouldn't.
Posted by: Anything's possible but...geez at May 16, 2024 12:54 PM (Wc83a)
Voters get to hear his message straight from the horse's mouth. In an *obviously* unfair fight which is something that any reasonable person can detect.
People really don't remember how "impossible" it was going to be for Trump to beat Hillary. And at the time I actually said they wouldn't.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (8ebbP)
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>>>I just tried to explain why you don't understand Donald Trump. And why you're at odds with most of your readers.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
listen faggot, get the fuck out of here and go back to your usual haunts. I don't have to put up with mewling little nobody 56-year-old hero-worshipping teenagerss calling me a "coward," and I won't.
You could attack or choose introspection. You attacked.
Not very valiant.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (JQiMb)
listen faggot, get the fuck out of here and go back to your usual haunts. I don't have to put up with mewling little nobody 56-year-old hero-worshipping teenagerss calling me a "coward," and I won't.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (KRtlO)
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I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Oh I'm not bashing you. Your way with words is legendary.
Even when I get dragged by you it's a slight honor for you do dig into your bag and throw epic teardowns......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)
It's always nice to be noticed.
And sometimes cruel.
I'm not going to stand for being called a "coward" by some hero-worshipping retard.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
Oh I'm not bashing you. Your way with words is legendary.
Even when I get dragged by you it's a slight honor for you do dig into your bag and throw epic teardowns......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)
It's always nice to be noticed.
And sometimes cruel.
Posted by: Just Lily at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (vivhj)
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Or... or... Trump is actually setting them up by sending an android assassin in his suit to get all those lying commie fuckers at once.
Posted by: Baron Lasers at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (Zz86T)
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I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM
They may be anti-Biden but they are definitely pushing down any avid support for Trump. It comes from the highest office in the organization. Everyone saw what happened to Tucker when he didn't toe the line.
I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM
They may be anti-Biden but they are definitely pushing down any avid support for Trump. It comes from the highest office in the organization. Everyone saw what happened to Tucker when he didn't toe the line.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (RKVpM)
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I was going to mention you left off "Stopping the Ukranian and Gazan genocides", but both wars may be done by then.
I'll be surprised if Gaza isn't over in #twoweeks. Ukraine may take longer, but the dick pianist is definitely on borrowed time.
I'll be surprised if Gaza isn't over in #twoweeks. Ukraine may take longer, but the dick pianist is definitely on borrowed time.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (2ocoG)
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Objection, facts not in evidence. If you care to go back to the head to head comparison, Romney took the RCP lead in October when the three debates occurred and held it until just before election day. Scant evidence that debates hurt Romney and perhaps all three helped him. He gained the RCP lead over Obama for most of October. Link goes to RCP polling summary data chart of 2012 presidential race including timing https://tinyurl.com/4cxu5at6
Hmmmm, I find it difficult to refute your point. You prick.
Hmmmm, I find it difficult to refute your point. You prick.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (CsUN+)
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387 That's my bet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
NEVER bet against a guy whose last name is Dice.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (MkuC5)
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I didn't realize he was THAT kind of loaded.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 16, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
NEVER bet against a guy whose last name is Dice.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (MkuC5)
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I didn't realize he was THAT kind of loaded.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
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359 Everyone and their grandmother knows CNN hates Trump. The smart play for Biden would be to go into purported enemy territory.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (8ebbP)
I agree with you. And it shows IMO that what is really needed is to completely turn these "debates" on their head. Doing away with the "bipartisan debate commission" is a fine first step. But still...it's time to stop pretending that journalists are impartial, disinterested observers. And stop expecting it. Stop praising conservative leaning moderators for being so "fair" which invariably means going easy on the Democrat and using some of their attack lines on the Republican.
No. It's time to stop pretending. Have two respectable partisans from each side ask questions of the other candidate. By "respectable" I mean while clearly biased, not absolute lunatics like Keith Olbermann. Let representative pundits go at the other candidate (or both candidates) from their own actual perspective, rather than trying to hide it and feign indifference and objectivity. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting and productive. I nominate Victor Davis Hanson for us.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (8ebbP)
I agree with you. And it shows IMO that what is really needed is to completely turn these "debates" on their head. Doing away with the "bipartisan debate commission" is a fine first step. But still...it's time to stop pretending that journalists are impartial, disinterested observers. And stop expecting it. Stop praising conservative leaning moderators for being so "fair" which invariably means going easy on the Democrat and using some of their attack lines on the Republican.
No. It's time to stop pretending. Have two respectable partisans from each side ask questions of the other candidate. By "respectable" I mean while clearly biased, not absolute lunatics like Keith Olbermann. Let representative pundits go at the other candidate (or both candidates) from their own actual perspective, rather than trying to hide it and feign indifference and objectivity. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting and productive. I nominate Victor Davis Hanson for us.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (4+3qm)
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Anyone up for a bowl of Kaboom! cereal?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (YIxO9)
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So. A whore and a fag.
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (v0R5T)
*hold envelope to head*
"Secretary Buttigieg."
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (v0R5T)
*hold envelope to head*
"Secretary Buttigieg."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)
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Romney won the election. Only thirty percent of voters wanted Obama, they were sick of him. But the Democrat cheat machine had been perfected.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (lCWOD)
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I only post when I'm in a bad mood. You won't see many of my posts. This particular decision of Trump's is frustrating.
Posted by: Coki
It's good to have a place you can share your opinions and you never know how many luckers that don't ever post appreciate reading thoughts that may differ from theirs.
Posted by: Coki
It's good to have a place you can share your opinions and you never know how many luckers that don't ever post appreciate reading thoughts that may differ from theirs.
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (F3Dlr)
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400 Anyone up for a bowl of Kaboom! cereal?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (YIxO9)
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Too happy. I could use a bowl of sadness to even me out.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (YIxO9)
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Too happy. I could use a bowl of sadness to even me out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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CNN is going to have to do some serious editing to disguise the contrast between Trump's vitality and Biden's decrepitude.
Posted by: Emmie at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (Sf2cq)
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'Mr. Trump, you're not answering the question!!!!!"
"F U. This country's economy is in the crapper. The rich are getting richer and good people are getting killed in the streets. Joe can't get a grip and I have a plan to make America great again."
"F U. This country's economy is in the crapper. The rich are getting richer and good people are getting killed in the streets. Joe can't get a grip and I have a plan to make America great again."
Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2024 01:01 PM (rj6Yv)
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Ok, someone explain it to me like I'm an idiot. What does the actual fail case for this debate look like? Because when I'm picturing it, I'm having a hard time seeing how it can end up as bad as some people are making it out to be.
Let's say that the moderators actually answer all Biden's questions for him and cut Trump's mike when he's halfway through making a good point. So what? As far as I can tell, what we see as the audience just looks like the coverage these news outlets give Trump already. Trump is attacked and doesn't actually get to defend himself back. That happens already, every day, during every 'news' program. What would make this different? If the fail case is the status quo and what is going to happen anyway, what's the actual error here for Trump to roll the dice?
I don't really see how Biden benefits from this sort of arrangement because in no case do I see it as actually him making any sort of a coherent or witty response to Trump. These "news" outlets are already hosting one-sided debates against Trump every day where Trump doesn't get to actually debate back. This kind of just seems like all upside to me.
But again, I'm an idiot. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Let's say that the moderators actually answer all Biden's questions for him and cut Trump's mike when he's halfway through making a good point. So what? As far as I can tell, what we see as the audience just looks like the coverage these news outlets give Trump already. Trump is attacked and doesn't actually get to defend himself back. That happens already, every day, during every 'news' program. What would make this different? If the fail case is the status quo and what is going to happen anyway, what's the actual error here for Trump to roll the dice?
I don't really see how Biden benefits from this sort of arrangement because in no case do I see it as actually him making any sort of a coherent or witty response to Trump. These "news" outlets are already hosting one-sided debates against Trump every day where Trump doesn't get to actually debate back. This kind of just seems like all upside to me.
But again, I'm an idiot. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 01:01 PM (B9Prs)
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How does this approval of moderators help Trump?
I do want Trump to win but this doesn’t look good.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (84PaW)
Because there are no set of moderators that the D's will allow that will give Trump a fair fight. So like many Trump decisions he simply cuts out the middle man and let's them have what they want while he gets to pump out his message direct to people. Which he is kind of good at.
I do want Trump to win but this doesn’t look good.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (84PaW)
Because there are no set of moderators that the D's will allow that will give Trump a fair fight. So like many Trump decisions he simply cuts out the middle man and let's them have what they want while he gets to pump out his message direct to people. Which he is kind of good at.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:01 PM (8ebbP)
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Can you imagine how lethal Donald Trump would be in a debate if he actually read a couple of briefing books and spent 15 or 20 minutes preparing?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:01 PM (7zRkJ)
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Even Barron is smacking his forehead. I'm sure it will be fine.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (Aoykm)
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But the fact is if Joe Doots get through his performative debate without visibly shitting himself or sucking his thumb, he wins
Posted by: Vengeance at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (8/E19)
Wins what, exactly?
A Trump voter's vote?
Posted by: Vengeance at May 16, 2024 12:57 PM (8/E19)
Wins what, exactly?
A Trump voter's vote?
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free State of Florida at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (MkuC5)
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361 A debate between these two should look more like a debate between the PM and the Leader of the Opposition in the UK House of Commons.
Posted by: Catch Thirty- Thr33
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British politicians by and large have shown glibness but utter failures in office going back a very long time indeed with a few exceptions.
The reality is that almost all of the time the result of any debate are predetermined by the number of seats that one holds in the House of Commons.
Want the reality of it, In the Thick of It, or Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister are better descriptions of the British parliamentary system in action than Question Time in the House.
Posted by: Catch Thirty- Thr33
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British politicians by and large have shown glibness but utter failures in office going back a very long time indeed with a few exceptions.
The reality is that almost all of the time the result of any debate are predetermined by the number of seats that one holds in the House of Commons.
Want the reality of it, In the Thick of It, or Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister are better descriptions of the British parliamentary system in action than Question Time in the House.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (8QJ54)
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All President Trump has to do is wait until Biden loses his thread, whip out a pair of joke shop glasses complete with plastic nose and brush mustache, don it, and Biden will be demolished.
All President Trump has to do is wait until Biden loses his thread, whip out a pair of joke shop glasses complete with plastic nose and brush mustache, don it, and Biden will be demolished.
Posted by: Speller at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (pSotA)
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Trump jumping at the bait is just another example of his weakness - EGO. Flatter him and you're hired. Challenge him to a debate where you have everything in your favor and he will puff up and accept, undoubtably assured that he will kick Biden's senile ass. Does he have no one that says, "you're winning in all the polls, this is a hail mary by the dotard, maybe hold out for a little something to even the playing field." Nope, the ego does the talking.
Posted by: Fat Jonah from Krypton at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (T44gN)
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The Mirage Hotel and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip, and its instantly recognizable volcano, is soon shutting down after more than three decades in business. The 3,000-room resort will cease operations on July 17 as it undergoes a three-year renovation that wipes away any markings of the Mirage and its tropical theme.
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
Sad.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (2QA3G)
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That IS sad. Have many fond memories there (grew up in Vegas), including playing Texas Hold'em with Kevin Pollack.
Was going to ask if Steve Wynn still owned it, but from other news stories see that it's being rebranded as (and assumed having been purchased by) "The Hard Rock."
Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2024 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
Sad.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 12:53 PM (2QA3G)
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That IS sad. Have many fond memories there (grew up in Vegas), including playing Texas Hold'em with Kevin Pollack.
Was going to ask if Steve Wynn still owned it, but from other news stories see that it's being rebranded as (and assumed having been purchased by) "The Hard Rock."
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (h4Cdp)
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No. It's time to stop pretending. Have two respectable partisans from each side ask questions of the other candidate. By "respectable" I mean while clearly biased, not absolute lunatics like Keith Olbermann. Let representative pundits go at the other candidate (or both candidates) from their own actual perspective, rather than trying to hide it and feign indifference and objectivity. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting and productive. I nominate Victor Davis Hanson for us.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (
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That amounts to adding one of us to the panel. My own nominee would be Mollie. Unless we could get Ace himself.
No. It's time to stop pretending. Have two respectable partisans from each side ask questions of the other candidate. By "respectable" I mean while clearly biased, not absolute lunatics like Keith Olbermann. Let representative pundits go at the other candidate (or both candidates) from their own actual perspective, rather than trying to hide it and feign indifference and objectivity. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting and productive. I nominate Victor Davis Hanson for us.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 12:59 PM (
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That amounts to adding one of us to the panel. My own nominee would be Mollie. Unless we could get Ace himself.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (1bNHn)
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>>>I just tried to explain why you don't understand Donald Trump. And why you're at odds with most of your readers.
At odds? No they are largely in agreement or aware of the fact Ace's opinions are often ahead of the pack. But you keep sucking that dick, asshole. You and the rest of your crowd that keeps wasting everyone's time here with your bullshit. It's time to beat people like you with a pipe, tie you to a metal chair and throw you down the fire stairs.
At odds? No they are largely in agreement or aware of the fact Ace's opinions are often ahead of the pack. But you keep sucking that dick, asshole. You and the rest of your crowd that keeps wasting everyone's time here with your bullshit. It's time to beat people like you with a pipe, tie you to a metal chair and throw you down the fire stairs.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (wElh/)
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412 Want the reality of it, In the Thick of It, or Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister are better descriptions of the British parliamentary system in action than Question Time in the House.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (8QJ54)
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Taskmaster is the superior demonstration of British politics.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (8QJ54)
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Taskmaster is the superior demonstration of British politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Hey, guys, Imma gonna show this alligator who's boss by sticking my head in it's jaws. That's a power move. The gator won't know what to do~! I'm smert, I'm a boss. Check this crazy shit out!~!!!!!!!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (IG4Id)
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First question, from Dana Bash -
Mr. Trump, how many times did you cheat on each of your three wives? Voters have a right to know.
Mr. Trump, how many times did you cheat on each of your three wives? Voters have a right to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (5fDan)
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People will tune in to see what kind of drug cocktail they will be dialing up for Joey.
Turning off Donald's microphone and scolding him will be a bonus.
People will tune in to see what kind of drug cocktail they will be dialing up for Joey.
Turning off Donald's microphone and scolding him will be a bonus.
Posted by: Auspex at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (j4U/Z)
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I just wish ace would consider Ron DeSantis as the fvcking Attorney General of the USA and crack a smile. Four years in that position, doing great stuff, then 2028 and he's sitting pretty.
I just wish ace would consider Ron DeSantis as the fvcking Attorney General of the USA and crack a smile. Four years in that position, doing great stuff, then 2028 and he's sitting pretty.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (RKVpM)
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That amounts to adding one of us to the panel. My own nominee would be Mollie. Unless we could get Ace himself.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (1bNHn)
"The Masked Moderator"
That amounts to adding one of us to the panel. My own nominee would be Mollie. Unless we could get Ace himself.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (1bNHn)
"The Masked Moderator"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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That amounts to adding one of us to the panel. My own nominee would be Mollie. Unless we could get Ace himself.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (1bNHn)
Mollie would be excellent. They can have Jake Tapper.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (1bNHn)
Mollie would be excellent. They can have Jake Tapper.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (4+3qm)
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listen faggot, get the fuck out of here and go back to your usual haunts. I don't have to put up with mewling little nobody 56-year-old hero-worshipping teenagerss calling me a "coward," and I won't.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (KRtlO)
Somewhere, up in Heaven, Chavez the Hugo is nodding and smiling beneficently.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (KRtlO)
Somewhere, up in Heaven, Chavez the Hugo is nodding and smiling beneficently.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (xcxpd)
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"Let me finish my question," says Wallace.
Go, Trump!
Go, Trump!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (as3uC)
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I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood
Excellent! The rubes are falling for it again!
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood
Excellent! The rubes are falling for it again!
Posted by: Paul Ryan and other "True Conservatives" running Fox at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (Yhzwt)
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427 I am not getting that impression at all.
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood
Excellent! The rubes are falling for it again!
Posted by: Paul Ryan and other "True Conservatives" running Fox at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (Yhzwt)
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"Even Fox News called TX for Biden early! That shows how convincing a win it is!"
They are anti-Biden and the majority seem to be pro-Trump.
Posted by: redridinghood
Excellent! The rubes are falling for it again!
Posted by: Paul Ryan and other "True Conservatives" running Fox at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (Yhzwt)
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"Even Fox News called TX for Biden early! That shows how convincing a win it is!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Mr. Trump, how many times did you cheat on each of your three wives? Voters have a right to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (5fDan)
"How many times did Zucker lock you in his office and attempt to have his way with you?"
Mr. Trump, how many times did you cheat on each of your three wives? Voters have a right to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (5fDan)
"How many times did Zucker lock you in his office and attempt to have his way with you?"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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I don't really see how Biden benefits from this sort of arrangement because in no case do I see it as actually him making any sort of a coherent or witty response to Trump. These "news" outlets are already hosting one-sided debates against Trump every day where Trump doesn't get to actually debate back. This kind of just seems like all upside to me.
But again, I'm an idiot. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Posted by: joe
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People see what they want to see and their past experiences and past commitments usually betray them when trying to scry the future.
The answer to who shaves the Spanish Barber paradox is that observing the event itself is dispositive rather than speculating about it. In other words, we have to see it before determining the shape of things after the event.
But again, I'm an idiot. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Posted by: joe
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People see what they want to see and their past experiences and past commitments usually betray them when trying to scry the future.
The answer to who shaves the Spanish Barber paradox is that observing the event itself is dispositive rather than speculating about it. In other words, we have to see it before determining the shape of things after the event.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (8QJ54)
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they'll cut his mic
Posted by: BignJames
At the very least, I hope that one of Trump's conditions for this debate are that he has videographers (sp?) there to film the entire debate.
Posted by: BignJames
At the very least, I hope that one of Trump's conditions for this debate are that he has videographers (sp?) there to film the entire debate.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (oiNtH)
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402 Romney won the election. Only thirty percent of voters wanted Obama, they were sick of him. But the Democrat cheat machine had been perfected.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (lCWOD)
He definitely won Florida. The polls had Romney up by 5 or 6% the day before the election . Florida had just elected a Republican governor and Tea Party backed Senator. But Romney ended up losing FL by 4 or 5%. The cheat also took down popular incumbent Rep West.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 16, 2024 01:00 PM (lCWOD)
He definitely won Florida. The polls had Romney up by 5 or 6% the day before the election . Florida had just elected a Republican governor and Tea Party backed Senator. But Romney ended up losing FL by 4 or 5%. The cheat also took down popular incumbent Rep West.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
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So a whore, a fag, and a senile old man walk into a bar.
Bartender says: "This isn't the CNN debate".
Bartender says: "This isn't the CNN debate".
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (v0R5T)
434
Politico, White House, today:
White House to Republicans: You’re not getting audio of Biden’s interview with Hur
Robert Hur’s description of those interviews fueled a firestorm over the president’s memory and mental fitness.
White House to Republicans: You’re not getting audio of Biden’s interview with Hur
Robert Hur’s description of those interviews fueled a firestorm over the president’s memory and mental fitness.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (NFX2v)
435
Hey, guys, Imma gonna show this alligator who's boss by sticking my head in it's jaws. That's a power move. The gator won't know what to do~! I'm smert, I'm a boss. Check this crazy shit out!~!!!!!!!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (IG4Id)
Maybe he doesn't think it hurts electorally to show everyone he's up against an alligator. Why make the average idiot do the hard work of figuring that out if they haven't already?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:03 PM (IG4Id)
Maybe he doesn't think it hurts electorally to show everyone he's up against an alligator. Why make the average idiot do the hard work of figuring that out if they haven't already?
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (8ebbP)
436
Trump will have to face off against Putin and Xi, so he might as well warm up against the JV squad.
Posted by: Ries Gorthanes at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (nQLtf)
437
British politicians by and large have shown glibness but utter failures in office going back a very long time indeed with a few exceptions.
The reality is that almost all of the time the result of any debate are predetermined by the number of seats that one holds in the House of Commons.
Want the reality of it, In the Thick of It, or Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister are better descriptions of the British parliamentary system in action than Question Time in the House.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (8QJ54)
ONE of the curses on the English is that they mistake wit for wisdom.
The reality is that almost all of the time the result of any debate are predetermined by the number of seats that one holds in the House of Commons.
Want the reality of it, In the Thick of It, or Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister are better descriptions of the British parliamentary system in action than Question Time in the House.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:02 PM (8QJ54)
ONE of the curses on the English is that they mistake wit for wisdom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (xcxpd)
438
Before I head out, I want to apologize for being flippant in my opening remark, Ace.
I hope I made the serious point later on. Reading how the Biden administration is trying to destroy Israel just before coming here to see what the topic of the day was, definitely affected my point of view.
I hope I made the serious point later on. Reading how the Biden administration is trying to destroy Israel just before coming here to see what the topic of the day was, definitely affected my point of view.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (t/2Uw)
439
Somewhere, up in Heaven, Chavez the Hugo is nodding and smiling beneficently.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (xcxpd)
This.
It just reminds me how bad that list on the main page sucks ass.........
Somewhere, up in Heaven, Chavez the Hugo is nodding and smiling beneficently.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:04 PM (xcxpd)
This.
It just reminds me how bad that list on the main page sucks ass.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)
440
432 He definitely won Florida. The polls had Romney up by 5 or 6% the day before the election . Florida had just elected a Republican governor and Tea Party backed Senator. But Romney ended up losing FL by 4 or 5%. The cheat also took down popular incumbent Rep West.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
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And, once DeSantis cleaned up Broward County less than a decade later, FL went from battleground to deep red.
The cheat is the only way Democrats win national elections anymore.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
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And, once DeSantis cleaned up Broward County less than a decade later, FL went from battleground to deep red.
The cheat is the only way Democrats win national elections anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
441
>>>407 Ok, someone explain it to me like I'm an idiot. What does the actual fail case for this debate look like? Because when I'm picturing it, I'm having a hard time seeing how it can end up as bad as some people are making it out to be.
rewatch the Chris Wallace debate, which Trump did in fact lose, because he was barely permitted to speak, and Wallace answered Biden's questions for him. Asserting, for example, that Hunter Biden had NOT made millions from overseas influence-farmers.
If you don't want to bother watching that, then you're not honestly asking a question, you're doing stupid rhetorical questions shit and acting dumb.
rewatch the Chris Wallace debate, which Trump did in fact lose, because he was barely permitted to speak, and Wallace answered Biden's questions for him. Asserting, for example, that Hunter Biden had NOT made millions from overseas influence-farmers.
If you don't want to bother watching that, then you're not honestly asking a question, you're doing stupid rhetorical questions shit and acting dumb.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (KRtlO)
442
Taskmaster is the superior demonstration of British politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I bow to your wide ranging AV knowledge of all kinds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I bow to your wide ranging AV knowledge of all kinds.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:07 PM (8QJ54)
443
People will tune in to see what kind of drug cocktail they will be dialing up for Joey.
.......
Ooh ooh I know!
Goofballs.
.......
Ooh ooh I know!
Goofballs.
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 01:07 PM (v0R5T)
444
Maybe he doesn't think it hurts electorally to show everyone he's up against an alligator. Why make the average idiot do the hard work of figuring that out if they haven't already?
Posted by: ...
* crunch *
Posted by: ...
* crunch *
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:07 PM (IG4Id)
445
I see the fur is flying again
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 01:07 PM (/7KEl)
446
>>>Before I head out, I want to apologize for being flippant in my opening remark, Ace.
it's okay. But this immediate anger whenever Trump's decisions are being questioned has got to go. People act like Trump is a member of their own family and any criticism of him can and should be met with personalized anger.
it's okay. But this immediate anger whenever Trump's decisions are being questioned has got to go. People act like Trump is a member of their own family and any criticism of him can and should be met with personalized anger.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (KRtlO)
447
Are we back to the stupid shit about how Trump supporters are a cult?
Well, I still haven't gotten my orange robe ....
And I even brought tuna casserole to the last meeting!
Well, I still haven't gotten my orange robe ....
And I even brought tuna casserole to the last meeting!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (GZgcn)
448
This debate's a distraction. Debates never change voters minds. A June debate will be completely forgotten by November.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (MvF+J)
449
442 Taskmaster is the superior demonstration of British politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I bow to your wide ranging AV knowledge of all kinds.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:07 PM (8QJ54)
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A haughty man in black rules over his supplicant assistant and insults people eager for his approval in front of an audience.
I mean...aside from the man in black being out in the open, it seems like a perfect fit for modern politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I bow to your wide ranging AV knowledge of all kinds.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:07 PM (8QJ54)
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A haughty man in black rules over his supplicant assistant and insults people eager for his approval in front of an audience.
I mean...aside from the man in black being out in the open, it seems like a perfect fit for modern politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
450
386 This is about getting his face, and Biden's stroke-induced face, in front of LIV.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
and, never backing down.
I think it's simply Trump has the same smod attitude that keeps so many here getting up in the morning.
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (F3Dlr)
You know, that's a good point. Trump is a fighter. He doesn't seem to back away from challenges.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
and, never backing down.
I think it's simply Trump has the same smod attitude that keeps so many here getting up in the morning.
Posted by: old chick at May 16, 2024 12:58 PM (F3Dlr)
You know, that's a good point. Trump is a fighter. He doesn't seem to back away from challenges.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (xcxpd)
451
I'm so pissed, but not surprised. Trump has shown he will step on that rake over and over again.
He surrounds himself with idiots and has thinks he can always outsmart his opponents. He would AGREE to anything because the worse thing to Trump would be he's not the center of attention 24/7. So he agrees to anything media related.
I wouldnt be surprised if he walks off the stage in a fit. These 2 will eat him alive and win Pulitzers for throwing the debate to Biden and be heroes to their peers.
He surrounds himself with idiots and has thinks he can always outsmart his opponents. He would AGREE to anything because the worse thing to Trump would be he's not the center of attention 24/7. So he agrees to anything media related.
I wouldnt be surprised if he walks off the stage in a fit. These 2 will eat him alive and win Pulitzers for throwing the debate to Biden and be heroes to their peers.
Posted by: Blago at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (wMRY8)
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (8ebbP)
Posted by: Hunter at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (ynpvh)
454
448 This debate's a distraction. Debates never change voters minds. A June debate will be completely forgotten by November.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (MvF+J)
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Trump won 2016 less than a month after the pussy tape.
I really don't think media narratives have the weight people put on them because the American people have largely tuned them out.
Hence the months of mail in ballot fraud followed by shutting down ballot counting in six states to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall 4 years later.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (MvF+J)
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Trump won 2016 less than a month after the pussy tape.
I really don't think media narratives have the weight people put on them because the American people have largely tuned them out.
Hence the months of mail in ballot fraud followed by shutting down ballot counting in six states to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall 4 years later.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
455
NPR, Law, today
'Supreme Court upholds funding structure for CFPB'
In part, "The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the manner in which the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is funded.
The opinion was written by Justice Clarence Thomas, who reversed the decision of the 5th Circuit. Justices Neil Gorsuch and Samuel Alito dissented.
...
Then, last year, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the CFPB's structure is unconstitutional because, instead of an annual congressional appropriation, Congress set the agency's funding at a capped amount that comes from banking fees paid to the Federal Reserve System.
The government appealed to the Supreme Court because many other agencies are similarly funded, including the Federal Reserve itself; the FDIC, which insures bank deposits; the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which charters and regulates all national banks; and potentially even Social Security and Medicare, which are funded by a specific tax."
'Supreme Court upholds funding structure for CFPB'
In part, "The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the manner in which the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is funded.
The opinion was written by Justice Clarence Thomas, who reversed the decision of the 5th Circuit. Justices Neil Gorsuch and Samuel Alito dissented.
...
Then, last year, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the CFPB's structure is unconstitutional because, instead of an annual congressional appropriation, Congress set the agency's funding at a capped amount that comes from banking fees paid to the Federal Reserve System.
The government appealed to the Supreme Court because many other agencies are similarly funded, including the Federal Reserve itself; the FDIC, which insures bank deposits; the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which charters and regulates all national banks; and potentially even Social Security and Medicare, which are funded by a specific tax."
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (NFX2v)
456
Moderation in all things.
Posted by: Miklosius the Respected Tribal Elder at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (Mxkdu)
457
The "moderators" are nothing of the sort. They are force multipliers for Democrats, because they are indeed their bought and paid for insurgents. Coupled with the fact that all their leader has to do is show up and look competent in two minute segments, and it's hard to see how you win that battle. IMVHO.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (wElh/)
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (8ebbP)
459
ONE of the curses on the English is that they mistake wit for wisdom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Occasionally you get both--Oxbridge graduates are examples of being designed for glibness. Our Ivy Leagues have tried to emulate that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Occasionally you get both--Oxbridge graduates are examples of being designed for glibness. Our Ivy Leagues have tried to emulate that.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (8QJ54)
460
I think those who watch debates and are "persuaded" were looking for reasons for choices they were already going to make.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Yeah, who hasn't made up their mind yet?
Now a debate between Biden and RFKjr might actually change minds
I think those who watch debates and are "persuaded" were looking for reasons for choices they were already going to make.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Yeah, who hasn't made up their mind yet?
Now a debate between Biden and RFKjr might actually change minds
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (E5ugj)
461
Can you imagine how lethal Donald Trump would be in a debate if he actually read a couple of briefing books and spent 15 or 20 minutes preparing?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete
Or, or, he could have just set the terms of the debate months ago that didn't look like a pummel tunnel. Either or.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete
Or, or, he could have just set the terms of the debate months ago that didn't look like a pummel tunnel. Either or.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (IG4Id)
462
And on cue.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (2QA3G)
463
"Trump could have agreed to a debate, but without all the extreme pro-Joe conditions
he has to know this whole thing is geared against him"
Lots of thoughts but this sums up the most important thing.
he has to know this whole thing is geared against him"
Lots of thoughts but this sums up the most important thing.
Posted by: RM at May 16, 2024 01:11 PM (urbih)
464
In fairness to Trump and his last debate with Shitpants in 2020, Trump had just recovered from COVID AND returned from another yuuuge rally. Those two events impacted his endurance bigly. He was obviously physically not up to par. At least, that's what I perceived.
Posted by: fly gal at May 16, 2024 01:11 PM (6CtMt)
465
409 Can you imagine how lethal Donald Trump would be in a debate if he actually read a couple of briefing books and spent 15 or 20 minutes preparing?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:01 PM (7zRkJ)
If Trump felt the need to prepare, he wouldn't be Trump.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:01 PM (7zRkJ)
If Trump felt the need to prepare, he wouldn't be Trump.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at May 16, 2024 01:11 PM (wGerL)
466
OT but Comcast has THE worst customer service in the known universe
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: t-bird at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (xjAvD)
468
Yeah, who hasn't made up their mind yet?
Now a debate between Biden and RFKjr might actually change minds
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (E5ugj)
Non political people who dislike both men. About 10% of the voters if I had to guess.
Now a debate between Biden and RFKjr might actually change minds
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (E5ugj)
Non political people who dislike both men. About 10% of the voters if I had to guess.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (MNhXM)
469
rewatch the Chris Wallace debate, which Trump did in fact lose, because he was barely permitted to speak, and Wallace answered Biden's questions for him. Asserting, for example, that Hunter Biden had NOT made millions from overseas influence-farmers.
If you don't want to bother watching that, then you're not honestly asking a question, you're doing stupid rhetorical questions shit and acting dumb.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (KRtlO)
Thank you for responding with something tangible. I was actually asking in good faith, so I'll shut up now.
If you don't want to bother watching that, then you're not honestly asking a question, you're doing stupid rhetorical questions shit and acting dumb.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (KRtlO)
Thank you for responding with something tangible. I was actually asking in good faith, so I'll shut up now.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (B9Prs)
470
I love watching the Trump cult somehow defend that letting two CNN partisan hacks that just tweet all day how much they hate Trump moderate a debate is somehow 4D chess.
This election is Trumps to lose and I still think he loses it from sheer stupidity.
This election is Trumps to lose and I still think he loses it from sheer stupidity.
Posted by: Blago at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (wMRY8)
471
I'm a Trump supporter who has faced down insults for it from the let's say less supportiveof Trump... and I've faced down insults from Trump supporters who have taken my criticisms of certain Trump decisions too personally.
So I have a good perspective on this.
My message is to stop taking it all so personally. Also everyone is an idiot but me.
So I have a good perspective on this.
My message is to stop taking it all so personally. Also everyone is an idiot but me.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (8ebbP)
472
459 ONE of the curses on the English is that they mistake wit for wisdom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Occasionally you get both--Oxbridge graduates are examples of being designed for glibness. Our Ivy Leagues have tried to emulate that.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (8QJ54)
https://youtu.be/uycsfu4574w
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Occasionally you get both--Oxbridge graduates are examples of being designed for glibness. Our Ivy Leagues have tried to emulate that.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:10 PM (8QJ54)
https://youtu.be/uycsfu4574w
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)
473
Trump can throw a boat over a hedge.
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 01:12 PM (/7KEl)
474
OT but Comcast has THE worst customer service in the known universe
Posted by: Don
It's all hot garbage.
Posted by: Don
It's all hot garbage.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 16, 2024 01:13 PM (2QA3G)
475
LO fucking L.
The Guardian is sending out emails informing people Elon Musk thinks the Guardian sucks donkey dick.
http://tiny.cc/8zi4yz
The Guardian is sending out emails informing people Elon Musk thinks the Guardian sucks donkey dick.
http://tiny.cc/8zi4yz
Posted by: bonhomme at May 16, 2024 01:13 PM (Odg76)
476
Trump had no choice. He said "anytime, anyplace" a few months ago.
Anyway, who fucking cares who the moderators are? The only way "our side" could make it better is if we get actual conservatives or, hell, anyone nominally on the right that isn't a NeverTrump softcock to moderate. But, if we get that we get told that we're stacking the deck with TRUMP LOYALISTS or whatever stupid narrative Jake Tapper comes up with while he's tugging his hangdown.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter. If you actually have your mind changed between Biden and Trump by a debate, at this point, you're a fucking asshat and you can go screw.
Anyway, who fucking cares who the moderators are? The only way "our side" could make it better is if we get actual conservatives or, hell, anyone nominally on the right that isn't a NeverTrump softcock to moderate. But, if we get that we get told that we're stacking the deck with TRUMP LOYALISTS or whatever stupid narrative Jake Tapper comes up with while he's tugging his hangdown.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter. If you actually have your mind changed between Biden and Trump by a debate, at this point, you're a fucking asshat and you can go screw.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (oqH4h)
477
When are we going to stop calling these Questions & Answers by the term Debate?
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate, it's an argument! at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (qfLjt)
478
You know what matters way more than debate conditions? Whether Americans repent of the current insanity and turn to honoring God and His instructions. If we as a nation continue worshipping baby killing, child mutilating, and various deviancies, calling evil good and good evil, how can we possibly expect peace and prosperity and non-oppressive government?
Posted by: Emmie at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (Sf2cq)
479
Trump can throw a boat over a hedge.
Posted by: Don Black
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The hedge Joe has been stuck in since his morning walk.
Posted by: Don Black
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The hedge Joe has been stuck in since his morning walk.
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (v0R5T)
480
If Trump felt the need to prepare, he wouldn't be Trump.
- sounds better in the original Klingon
- sounds better in the original Klingon
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (riU2q)
481
Look at the undecided in the swing states and do the electoral math. Yes, I know Trump keeps saying it's a big, beautiful poll. But that didn't matter last time.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (wElh/)
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (/7KEl)
483
Trump went ahead with his Jan 6th rally even though I truly believe he was advised repeatedly not to because of the obvious set up coming. The Dems telegraphed what they were going to do . Trump always believes he can overcome whatever they throw at him. Bold to a fault.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (MNhXM)
484
Trump, or someone(s) on his staff must have felt that the circumstances surrounding this "debate" were not necessarily bad for them. Perhaps not perfect (they never are) but they'll get to size up *biden, his handlers and staff and gather some prime intel on the state of his administration. Among other things.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (Q4IgG)
485
466 OT but Comcast has THE worst customer service in the known universe
Posted by: Don Black
Yessiree. Horrible. And will tell you to your face, they don't care, no one cares.
>Before his appointment by President Biden and unanimous confirmation by the U.S. Senate as U.S. Ambassador to Canada, David L. Cohen served as Senior Advisor to the CEO at Comcast Corporation as of January 1, 2020.
Posted by: Don Black
Yessiree. Horrible. And will tell you to your face, they don't care, no one cares.
>Before his appointment by President Biden and unanimous confirmation by the U.S. Senate as U.S. Ambassador to Canada, David L. Cohen served as Senior Advisor to the CEO at Comcast Corporation as of January 1, 2020.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (NFX2v)
486
As I said this morning - if people truly think that Trump will lose you should be buying every prepper book you can get your hands on.
First read about the day to day lives of Venezuelans when the socialists took over for good.
I'm ready. I'll survive. I doubt that many of you will. It will be hell on earth like you've never experienced. Sure, there's a lot of hyperbole around elections, but the left is so close to sealing the deal... you need to take some stock in the reality.
As I said this morning - if people truly think that Trump will lose you should be buying every prepper book you can get your hands on.
First read about the day to day lives of Venezuelans when the socialists took over for good.
I'm ready. I'll survive. I doubt that many of you will. It will be hell on earth like you've never experienced. Sure, there's a lot of hyperbole around elections, but the left is so close to sealing the deal... you need to take some stock in the reality.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (RKVpM)
487
Trump agreed to this. I don't get it. It doesn't look like an eleven-dimensional chess move. It looks like Trump is worn out and fatigued. I hope he proves me wrong.
Trump agreed to this. I don't get it. It doesn't look like an eleven-dimensional chess move. It looks like Trump is worn out and fatigued. I hope he proves me wrong.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (4Aqsh)
488
No matter how manifestly dishonest Bash & Co will be (and they assuredly will be) the only one who can "lose" this debate is DJT. I would butt scoot over flaming glass to vote for him in November, but it annoyed the shit out of me to see him just too amped up and making repeated unforced errors of constant interruptions.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (5FPX4)
489
481 Look at the undecided in the swing states and do the electoral math. Yes, I know Trump keeps saying it's a big, beautiful poll. But that didn't matter last time.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (wElh/)
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Six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night, all at once, to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall mattered last time.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (wElh/)
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Six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night, all at once, to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall mattered last time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
490
475 LO fucking L.
The Guardian is sending out emails informing people Elon Musk thinks the Guardian sucks donkey dick.
http://tiny.cc/8zi4yz
Posted by: bonhomme at May 16, 2024 01:13 PM (Odg76)
Might as well be honest with the world about yourself, Guardian. That, and you have no sense of humor.
The Guardian is sending out emails informing people Elon Musk thinks the Guardian sucks donkey dick.
http://tiny.cc/8zi4yz
Posted by: bonhomme at May 16, 2024 01:13 PM (Odg76)
Might as well be honest with the world about yourself, Guardian. That, and you have no sense of humor.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (ynpvh)
491
it's okay. But this immediate anger whenever Trump's decisions are being questioned has got to go. People act like Trump is a member of their own family and any criticism of him can and should be met with personalized anger.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (KRtlO)
Yes. A little objectivity towards Trump is not a bad thing. Objectively I do not like this decision re: moderators.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:08 PM (KRtlO)
Yes. A little objectivity towards Trump is not a bad thing. Objectively I do not like this decision re: moderators.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 16, 2024 01:15 PM (84PaW)
492
Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
493
OT but Comcast has THE worst customer service in the known universe
Posted by: Don Black
......
Phones are down in India?
Posted by: Don Black
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Phones are down in India?
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (v0R5T)
494
164
‘ Trump is a genius and does no wrong’
If you think Trump is so bad, you should have said something earlier when it would have mattered.
‘ Trump is a genius and does no wrong’
If you think Trump is so bad, you should have said something earlier when it would have mattered.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (jbnUc)
495
ONE of the curses on the English is that they mistake wit for wisdom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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It is one of the Spartans best virtues.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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It is one of the Spartans best virtues.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (MNhXM)
496
> OT but Comcast has THE worst customer service in the known universe
At least they have customer service you can talk to. Try getting eBay or YouTube people on the horn. It's not possible. When you email them, there's a 99.99% probability the email you get back was autogenerated by AI.
At least they have customer service you can talk to. Try getting eBay or YouTube people on the horn. It's not possible. When you email them, there's a 99.99% probability the email you get back was autogenerated by AI.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (Odg76)
497
"if people truly think that Trump will lose you should be buying every prepper book you can get your hands on."
For people who think Trump will win, I'd advise the same. We're doomed either way.
For people who think Trump will win, I'd advise the same. We're doomed either way.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (MvF+J)
498
466 Comcast customer service is never OT.
Posted by: Ries Gorthanes at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (nQLtf)
499
In fairness they probably wont be giving Biden the questions, omitting articles and prepositions.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (5FPX4)
500
Say what you like, but Biden without his pet teleprompter is going to be hilarious (and a disaster). I have no doubt that he will have the questions prior to the debate, but that will only compound the issue. Short term memory is required.
Trump, on the other hand, has been spending his time giving off the cuff speeches to thousands. And, on top of that he has the added qualifier that this is indeed a one sided benefit to Biden. Easily brought home in opening and closing statements.
I think Biden's offer (which was accepted by Trump without edit) was supposed to be denied so they could draw out the process and never have a comparison of the two on the same stage. Trump's team accepted without reservation, and Biden's team was hoping he wouldn't.
Trump, on the other hand, has been spending his time giving off the cuff speeches to thousands. And, on top of that he has the added qualifier that this is indeed a one sided benefit to Biden. Easily brought home in opening and closing statements.
I think Biden's offer (which was accepted by Trump without edit) was supposed to be denied so they could draw out the process and never have a comparison of the two on the same stage. Trump's team accepted without reservation, and Biden's team was hoping he wouldn't.
Posted by: Orson at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (dIske)
501
495 ONE of the curses on the English is that they mistake wit for wisdom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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It is one of the Spartans best virtues.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (MNhXM)
It takes a lot of work to say a lot in very few words
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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It is one of the Spartans best virtues.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (MNhXM)
It takes a lot of work to say a lot in very few words
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (xcxpd)
502
492 Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)
503
Maybe when Trump said any time any place he meant it? Instead of it just being bluster? Is that worth anything to anyone...?
Oh we want strong leaders but only those strong enough to make decisions we personally approve of and would invariably make our smart selves.
Which means maybe we don't want strong leaders. Trump is nothing if not one.
Oh we want strong leaders but only those strong enough to make decisions we personally approve of and would invariably make our smart selves.
Which means maybe we don't want strong leaders. Trump is nothing if not one.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (8ebbP)
504
If you think Trump is so bad, you should have said something earlier when it would have mattered.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
Is this 4-D chess or not?
Posted by: Dr. Claw
Is this 4-D chess or not?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (IG4Id)
505
If Daddy Trump is ok with it, then Weasel is ok with it.
Posted by: Weasel at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (JwHpX)
506
326 "it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate
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That would be a damn clever response. But you know that Trump is just going to call her ugly.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate
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That would be a damn clever response. But you know that Trump is just going to call her ugly.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (KFqMm)
507
486. I'm ready. I'll survive. I doubt that many of you will. It will be hell on earth like you've never experienced. Sure, there's a lot of hyperbole around elections, but the left is so close to sealing the deal... you need to take some stock in the reality.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
I'm in PA.
Won't you be my neighbor?
Posted by: Divide by Zero
I'm in PA.
Won't you be my neighbor?
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (NFX2v)
508
>Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood
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so you're saying his brain will be the key to victory
okay
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood
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so you're saying his brain will be the key to victory
okay
Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (/7KEl)
509
I don't really see how Biden benefits from this sort of arrangement because in no case do I see it as actually him making any sort of a coherent or witty response to Trump. These "news" outlets are already hosting one-sided debates against Trump every day where Trump doesn't get to actually debate back. This kind of just seems like all upside to me.
It's not ideal for Trump, but I also don't see how it could be a disaster either.
It's not ideal for Trump, but I also don't see how it could be a disaster either.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (2ocoG)
510
It takes a lot of work to say a lot in very few words
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
511
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)
******
Tapper will be there to refresh his memory.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)
******
Tapper will be there to refresh his memory.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (XkYcA)
513
Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate
mod will respond with " I am asking the questions here". Then what ?
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate
mod will respond with " I am asking the questions here". Then what ?
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (V13WU)
514
511 He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)
******
Tapper will be there to refresh his memory.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (NpAcC)
No doubt
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)
******
Tapper will be there to refresh his memory.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (NpAcC)
No doubt
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (Akjoo)
515
510 It takes a lot of work to say a lot in very few words
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
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I don't think I understand the intention of what is passing between these two esteemed individuals in the context of this comment thread on this site run by the esteemed ewok.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
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I don't think I understand the intention of what is passing between these two esteemed individuals in the context of this comment thread on this site run by the esteemed ewok.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (GBKbO)
516
I do think DJT deserves credit for calling what was probably a bluff. Biden's handlers just assumed DJT wouldn't agree to the terms, but wanted plausible deniability in refusing to debate.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (5FPX4)
517
456 Moderation in all things.
Posted by: Miklosius the Respected Tribal Elder at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (Mxkdu)
Even moderation
*pours the bourbon*
Posted by: Miklosius the Respected Tribal Elder at May 16, 2024 01:09 PM (Mxkdu)
Even moderation
*pours the bourbon*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (xcxpd)
518
506 326 "it won't seem silly when Jake Tapper grills Trump for 90 minutes on rape claims."
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate
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That would be a damn clever response. But you know that Trump is just going to call her ugly.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (KFqMm)
Yo, Pete! Didya see the Mornin' Report? I think JJ put up the title for ya.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump needs to start his reply with "First of all please define a woman for all of us."
Posted by: Ciampino - It's not a debate
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That would be a damn clever response. But you know that Trump is just going to call her ugly.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (KFqMm)
Yo, Pete! Didya see the Mornin' Report? I think JJ put up the title for ya.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:20 PM (ynpvh)
519
510 It takes a lot of work to say a lot in very few words
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
We need more Calvin Coolidges...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
We need more Calvin Coolidges...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (ynpvh)
520
FWIW I hated the idea of a rally on J6 but at the same time understood why we didn't have to go quietly into the night in the face of a terrible injustice. Which I think was Trump's reasoning.
But the people who didn't know it was over by November 19th I felt really sorry for.
I'm not sure how many people predicted antifa would be there. And most of us laughed at it all day long.
But the people who didn't know it was over by November 19th I felt really sorry for.
I'm not sure how many people predicted antifa would be there. And most of us laughed at it all day long.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (8ebbP)
521
I like this debate rule Trump agreed to - "The debates will not have audiences and the candidate who is not recognized to speak will have his microphone cut".
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (V13WU)
522
516 I do think DJT deserves credit for calling what was probably a bluff. Biden's handlers just assumed DJT wouldn't agree to the terms, but wanted plausible deniability in refusing to debate.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (5FPX4)
Let's be fair here, these guys knew Trump would accept.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (5FPX4)
Let's be fair here, these guys knew Trump would accept.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (KbCG3)
523
That would be a damn clever response. But you know that Trump is just going to call her ugly.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pet
Answer to every question,
"You Fugly!"
"Next question, please."
...
You Fugly!"
Etc.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pet
Answer to every question,
"You Fugly!"
"Next question, please."
...
You Fugly!"
Etc.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (riU2q)
524
Pithy.
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
What? Thumtimes I wake up in a bad mood......
We like pithy.
Posted by: Miklos, admiring Silent Cal at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM (Mxkdu)
What? Thumtimes I wake up in a bad mood......
Posted by: Mike Tython at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
525
I don't have lots of money to being some big prep endeavor. I am concerned about my son and others, but finally...
"If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord."
Romans 14:8
"If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord."
Romans 14:8
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (XkYcA)
526
516 I do think DJT deserves credit for calling what was probably a bluff.
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If you really think he's bluffing, you don't call. You raise.
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If you really think he's bluffing, you don't call. You raise.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (KFqMm)
527
520 FWIW I hated the idea of a rally on J6 but at the same time understood why we didn't have to go quietly into the night in the face of a terrible injustice. Which I think was Trump's reasoning.
But the people who didn't know it was over by November 19th I felt really sorry for.
I'm not sure how many people predicted antifa would be there. And most of us laughed at it all day long.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (8ebbP)
The thing that annoyed me most is that he walked people into a trap of sorts but just gave the same stump speech had had been giving. It was all recycled material. No reason to show up for it.
But the people who didn't know it was over by November 19th I felt really sorry for.
I'm not sure how many people predicted antifa would be there. And most of us laughed at it all day long.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (8ebbP)
The thing that annoyed me most is that he walked people into a trap of sorts but just gave the same stump speech had had been giving. It was all recycled material. No reason to show up for it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (KbCG3)
528
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
AI-generated Joe will be playing on an in-studio monitor. (covid precautions, ya know). AI Joe can read very well.
AI-generated Joe will be playing on an in-studio monitor. (covid precautions, ya know). AI Joe can read very well.
Posted by: t-bird at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (xjAvD)
529
Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM
I have some experience with dementia patients. Prep doesn't work.
The processing of information into long term memory no longer occurs. Even ancient memories (the last to go) that he should remember he is mangling now. At this point it is actual elder abuse and the left should hang their heads in shame.
Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM
I have some experience with dementia patients. Prep doesn't work.
The processing of information into long term memory no longer occurs. Even ancient memories (the last to go) that he should remember he is mangling now. At this point it is actual elder abuse and the left should hang their heads in shame.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (RKVpM)
530
502 492 Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna
I'd be more worried if I didn't know Biden needs picture books and step by step instructions on cards to stumble through routine meet and greet events in order to not make a complete jackass out of himself.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna
I'd be more worried if I didn't know Biden needs picture books and step by step instructions on cards to stumble through routine meet and greet events in order to not make a complete jackass out of himself.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (Yhzwt)
531
Truth is none of Us know the "why" or what will happen.. We're all just guessing.. I just don't like when it turns personal here...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (Akjoo)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (xPJvm)
533
I’m hoping Biden was bluffing because I only see the down side to the debate. If Biden does well then those who were worried he is too old and possibly senile will be relieved of that excuse not to vote for him. I was hoping for a low Dem turnout.
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (MNhXM)
534
Debate moderators matter, Chris Wallace destroyed Trump at that debate.
But sure, let the network Trump whined about his whole administrations call the shots.
"Art of the Deal" my ass. The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
But sure, let the network Trump whined about his whole administrations call the shots.
"Art of the Deal" my ass. The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
Posted by: Blago at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (wMRY8)
535
Is this 4-D chess or not?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (IG4Id)
No I explained it above. It's a cut out the middle man decision. Trump gets to broadcast his message and force people to see Biden's unfiltered condition. Have you seen the difference between their respective states of being?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 16, 2024 01:17 PM (IG4Id)
No I explained it above. It's a cut out the middle man decision. Trump gets to broadcast his message and force people to see Biden's unfiltered condition. Have you seen the difference between their respective states of being?
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (8ebbP)
536
512 Posted by: Emmie at May 16, 2024 01:14 PM (Sf2cq)
Very true.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (XkYcA)
I concur. We are most likely getting what we deserve as a nation.
Sad.
Very true.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (XkYcA)
I concur. We are most likely getting what we deserve as a nation.
Sad.
Posted by: Just Lily at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (vivhj)
537
Tapper : Mr. Trump you are not recognized !
Trump walks off stage. Within seconds, the propaganda machine kicks in and Trump is "erratic, chaotic, temperamental" and "lost the debate". Biden cinches that undecided vote.
Trump walks off stage. Within seconds, the propaganda machine kicks in and Trump is "erratic, chaotic, temperamental" and "lost the debate". Biden cinches that undecided vote.
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (V13WU)
538
The processing of information into long term memory no longer occurs. Even ancient memories (the last to go) that he should remember he is mangling now. At this point it is actual elder abuse and the left should hang their heads in shame.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (RKVpM)
++++
Being a leftist means never having to say you're sorry.
There is no shame. They're utterly shameless. They are, in fact, anti-shame.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (RKVpM)
++++
Being a leftist means never having to say you're sorry.
There is no shame. They're utterly shameless. They are, in fact, anti-shame.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (d04cU)
539
516 I do think DJT deserves credit for calling what was probably a bluff. Biden's handlers just assumed DJT wouldn't agree to the terms, but wanted plausible deniability in refusing to debate.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (5FPX4)
__________________________________
Exactly. If Trump was a brand new candidate, his comments and takes would be the main focus of the debate. But, everyone already know his capabilities (he's had results). So, the focus switches to the comparison of the candidates from a health perspective. The debate substance means little....how it's delivered, on the other hand, will be what people evaluate.
Posted by: Zek at May 16, 2024 01:19 PM (5FPX4)
__________________________________
Exactly. If Trump was a brand new candidate, his comments and takes would be the main focus of the debate. But, everyone already know his capabilities (he's had results). So, the focus switches to the comparison of the candidates from a health perspective. The debate substance means little....how it's delivered, on the other hand, will be what people evaluate.
Posted by: Orson at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (dIske)
540
Hunter's gonna need that stashed coke. He just lost another appeal for his tax evasion court hearing.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (Y6IkP)
541
536 Concur.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (NFX2v)
544
What Trump is failing to appreciate is that it's not only about him. These sham debates are degrading to the nation and to the idea of of honest discourse, and reinforce the narrative primacy and armaments of the Left. To sell out so easily without even an effort at negotiating the terms is pathetic, and raises doubts if Trump has learned anything.
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 16, 2024 01:24 PM (tf4XU)
545
nood
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 16, 2024 01:25 PM (MvF+J)
546
"Art of the Deal" my ass. The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
Posted by: Blago at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM
Trump is a stupid doodyhead who said pussy.
Biden is the man we need. He is DC and can bring the world together.
"Art of the Deal" my ass. The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
Posted by: Blago at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM
Trump is a stupid doodyhead who said pussy.
Biden is the man we need. He is DC and can bring the world together.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 16, 2024 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)
547
497 "if people truly think that Trump will lose you should be buying every prepper book you can get your hands on."
For people who think Trump will win, I'd advise the same. We're doomed either way.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage
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Nah, not doomed, life will go on for at least some of us, probably most of us.
I do think though that the republic of the Constitution is functionally dead and has been dead for some years and that is society as a whole that chose that outcome.
For people who think Trump will win, I'd advise the same. We're doomed either way.
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage
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Nah, not doomed, life will go on for at least some of us, probably most of us.
I do think though that the republic of the Constitution is functionally dead and has been dead for some years and that is society as a whole that chose that outcome.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2024 01:25 PM (8QJ54)
548
"Art of the Deal" my ass. The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
Posted by: Blago"
You should run for President and show us how it's done.
Posted by: Blago"
You should run for President and show us how it's done.
Posted by: fd at May 16, 2024 01:25 PM (vFG9F)
549
The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
Posted by: Blago
Really?
Now you believe Cohen?
Wow.
Posted by: Blago
Really?
Now you believe Cohen?
Wow.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 16, 2024 01:25 PM (aiOam)
550
504
‘ Is this 4-D chess or not?’
Are you asking generally if Trump is playing 4-D chess or if I am playing it with my comment?
If the second, yeah. I’m trying to goad never Trumpers into a rage stroke .
‘ Is this 4-D chess or not?’
Are you asking generally if Trump is playing 4-D chess or if I am playing it with my comment?
If the second, yeah. I’m trying to goad never Trumpers into a rage stroke .
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2024 01:25 PM (jbnUc)
551
530 502 492 Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna
I'd be more worried if I didn't know Biden needs picture books and step by step instructions on cards to stumble through routine meet and greet events in order to not make a complete jackass out of himself.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (Yhzwt)
Orwellian double speak:
Economy is good
Inflation is under control
Unemployment is low
AND they'll juice him up like they did for the SOTU
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
He just has to be able to read them and that could be difficult for Joe..
Posted by: It's me donna
I'd be more worried if I didn't know Biden needs picture books and step by step instructions on cards to stumble through routine meet and greet events in order to not make a complete jackass out of himself.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (Yhzwt)
Orwellian double speak:
Economy is good
Inflation is under control
Unemployment is low
AND they'll juice him up like they did for the SOTU
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:26 PM (ynpvh)
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I'm not sure how many people predicted antifa would be there. And most of us laughed at it all day long.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (8ebbP)
Everyone who paid attention to the Trump inauguration knew Antifa infiltrators would be there.
Lot of people here yelled Traaaap !!
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:21 PM (8ebbP)
Everyone who paid attention to the Trump inauguration knew Antifa infiltrators would be there.
Lot of people here yelled Traaaap !!
Posted by: polynikes at May 16, 2024 01:26 PM (MNhXM)
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In light of all this...
https://tinyurl.com/4p64p5be
Jimmy Fallon mocking the 11 second tape.
And Ace, I actually agree with you about Trump. I was dissing the topic, not your post.
https://tinyurl.com/4p64p5be
Jimmy Fallon mocking the 11 second tape.
And Ace, I actually agree with you about Trump. I was dissing the topic, not your post.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 01:26 PM (t/2Uw)
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I really don't think media narratives have the weight people put on them because the American people have largely tuned them out.
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The Trump win has already been set.
That's the long-term trend that's locked in.
Everything you hear now and going forward is noise, static.
It's like a stock that's in a 6-month run and panicking because of a 5-minute drop of 3%.
Sure, get upset about this, the shitty VP choice, the lackluster convention, this poll up/down:
Then, after you've sat outside in the sun and eaten an apple, ask, "has anything really change? Is the economy better? Is Joe more likable, coherent? Ukraine winning? Israel losing?"
Win is locked in, boys. Read the charts.
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The Trump win has already been set.
That's the long-term trend that's locked in.
Everything you hear now and going forward is noise, static.
It's like a stock that's in a 6-month run and panicking because of a 5-minute drop of 3%.
Sure, get upset about this, the shitty VP choice, the lackluster convention, this poll up/down:
Then, after you've sat outside in the sun and eaten an apple, ask, "has anything really change? Is the economy better? Is Joe more likable, coherent? Ukraine winning? Israel losing?"
Win is locked in, boys. Read the charts.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (BkNo8)
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I've been reading the smart military blog for 20 years now and every election, without fail, everyone's always complaining about the quality of the moderator, the moderator isn't letting the Republicans be, how the moderator is helping the Democrat..
But now when Trump picks the same old leftist moderator, suddenly the moderator doesn't matter or in fact it's good that the moderator wants to help the Democrat because of nine-dimensional chess or something.
Just stop. Trump is arrogant and impulsive and that is his downfall.
But now when Trump picks the same old leftist moderator, suddenly the moderator doesn't matter or in fact it's good that the moderator wants to help the Democrat because of nine-dimensional chess or something.
Just stop. Trump is arrogant and impulsive and that is his downfall.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (KFqMm)
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The guy can't even close a deal to get a hooker to keep her mouth shut after paying her six figures.
Posted by: Blago
Really?
Now you believe Cohen?
Wow.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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Do I think Trump fucked Stormy Daniels and then paid her to keep quiet? Of course.
Why would Trump pay someone that amount for an NDA otherwise? You think Trump just hands out money like that to sleazebags that hang around his casino for no reason?
Posted by: Blago
Really?
Now you believe Cohen?
Wow.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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Do I think Trump fucked Stormy Daniels and then paid her to keep quiet? Of course.
Why would Trump pay someone that amount for an NDA otherwise? You think Trump just hands out money like that to sleazebags that hang around his casino for no reason?
Posted by: Blago at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (wMRY8)
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537 Tapper : Mr. Trump you are not recognized !
Trump walks off stage. Within seconds, the propaganda machine kicks in and Trump is "erratic, chaotic, temperamental" and "lost the debate". Biden cinches that undecided vote.
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (V13WU)
They'll cut his mike when Biden's speaking. Biden's mike won't be cut.
Trump walks off stage. Within seconds, the propaganda machine kicks in and Trump is "erratic, chaotic, temperamental" and "lost the debate". Biden cinches that undecided vote.
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2024 01:23 PM (V13WU)
They'll cut his mike when Biden's speaking. Biden's mike won't be cut.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)
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Trump should be prepared to walk out and leave them to cover dead air.
Trump should be prepared to walk out and leave them to cover dead air.
Posted by: the Craw at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (PVITw)
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"Hey, Joe, let's just make it you and me. Take your earpiece out and tell us what YOU really think about the border crisis."
"Hey, Joe, let's just make it you and me. Take your earpiece out and tell us what YOU really think about the border crisis."
Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (rj6Yv)
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NOOD BIDEN
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 16, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)
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Trump (again)won't be allowed to speak.
Biden won't be able to speak.
should be interesting ... or like the last 4 years, just more shadowy DeepState manipulation of everything.
Biden won't be able to speak.
should be interesting ... or like the last 4 years, just more shadowy DeepState manipulation of everything.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 16, 2024 01:28 PM (Cus5s)
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I'd be more worried if I didn't know Biden needs picture books and step by step instructions on cards to stumble through routine meet and greet events in order to not make a complete jackass out of himself.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (Yhzwt)
I recall Biden "winning" a debate against Ryan by laughing like a hyena to drown out Ryan's informed statements, insulting Ryan while Ryan was as respectful as a Boy Scout, and Biden never addressing the issues himself. (Not saying Ryan was a good choice, but Ryan attempted to actually debate the issues, unlike Biden.) But Biden was declared the winner because he was willing to be a ridiculous jerk.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (Yhzwt)
I recall Biden "winning" a debate against Ryan by laughing like a hyena to drown out Ryan's informed statements, insulting Ryan while Ryan was as respectful as a Boy Scout, and Biden never addressing the issues himself. (Not saying Ryan was a good choice, but Ryan attempted to actually debate the issues, unlike Biden.) But Biden was declared the winner because he was willing to be a ridiculous jerk.
Posted by: Emmie at May 16, 2024 01:31 PM (Sf2cq)
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At this point it is actual elder abuse and the left should hang their heads in shame.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (RKVpM)
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If you're waiting for the left to have any sense of shame you're going to be waiting a while.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:22 PM (RKVpM)
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If you're waiting for the left to have any sense of shame you're going to be waiting a while.
Posted by: ballistic at May 16, 2024 01:31 PM (oqH4h)
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I'm in PA.
Won't you be my neighbor?
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM
I'd like to but this is something my wife and I have already discussed and a four neighbor cooperative is my max. Although, sitting at the top of the hill I may, by a series of garden hose connections be able to gravity feed about 20 homes down my hill with water. I'm deadly serious about how serious this election is. I've read of the day to day lives of people in Venezuela who had to walk miles to a river to collect water in order to flush their toilets. Socialism only works until everybody else's money is gone and Joe is wiping people out.
But I like you and enjoy your comments fellow PA person.
I'm in PA.
Won't you be my neighbor?
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 16, 2024 01:18 PM
I'd like to but this is something my wife and I have already discussed and a four neighbor cooperative is my max. Although, sitting at the top of the hill I may, by a series of garden hose connections be able to gravity feed about 20 homes down my hill with water. I'm deadly serious about how serious this election is. I've read of the day to day lives of people in Venezuela who had to walk miles to a river to collect water in order to flush their toilets. Socialism only works until everybody else's money is gone and Joe is wiping people out.
But I like you and enjoy your comments fellow PA person.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 16, 2024 01:34 PM (RKVpM)
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Biden is going to be prepared.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood
Biden's handlers can try this but remember, Biden has note cards whenever he talks and these cards tell him what to do - Pause - sit - stand here, etc. He fights with a teleprompter to read his answers. Biden is not going to remember his preparations without an earpiece, a lot of note cards with instructions, and a kick ass drug cocktail. Biden's performance at a debate is a wild card - it can go either way.
He is going to have the questions and the answers to memorize before the debate.
Posted by: redridinghood
Biden's handlers can try this but remember, Biden has note cards whenever he talks and these cards tell him what to do - Pause - sit - stand here, etc. He fights with a teleprompter to read his answers. Biden is not going to remember his preparations without an earpiece, a lot of note cards with instructions, and a kick ass drug cocktail. Biden's performance at a debate is a wild card - it can go either way.
Posted by: Cheri at May 16, 2024 01:34 PM (oiNtH)
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In the before times the media had the veneer of being objective and fair and we ached to prove they were "biased" while they were busy handing questions to the D beforehand.
And where CNN and Trump are concerned, they don't have this veneer. True or False?
Don't bother answering.
And where CNN and Trump are concerned, they don't have this veneer. True or False?
Don't bother answering.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2024 01:37 PM (8ebbP)
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I'm sure Trump will handle this situation as he did with the earlier CNN interview that the same folks said that he shouldn't do.
We have too many bedwetter commentators in the "conservative" movement. Should get their undies unbunched.
We have too many bedwetter commentators in the "conservative" movement. Should get their undies unbunched.
Posted by: Scoob at May 16, 2024 02:00 PM (/ypIK)
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On a first order approximation, I get why this seems stupid for Trump to do. But I wonder if he's got some specific plan to combat the moderators. Biden absolutely cannot think on his feet, so all Trump needs to do is to get him off the script that the moderators intend to provide.
I guess I'm less pessimistic than Ace on this one. What Trump's got in his favor is he absolutely knows he's walking into a trap, so if he's got some way to neutralize it, this could be fatal to Biden's campaign.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (B9Prs)
Its trivial. Just say to Biden - Look, we don't need these saps getting in the way, let's just ask questions of each other. Are you afraid of debating me without these two helping you?
then let the chaos begin.
I guess I'm less pessimistic than Ace on this one. What Trump's got in his favor is he absolutely knows he's walking into a trap, so if he's got some way to neutralize it, this could be fatal to Biden's campaign.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2024 12:18 PM (B9Prs)
Its trivial. Just say to Biden - Look, we don't need these saps getting in the way, let's just ask questions of each other. Are you afraid of debating me without these two helping you?
then let the chaos begin.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2024 02:12 PM (eoQWY)
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D=1
Posted by: VAR1ABLE at May 16, 2024 02:12 PM (r8F6l)
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Run Away Run Away seems to be the pundits first choice here at AOS ... some true warriors here ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at May 16, 2024 02:13 PM (DBAaD)
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step back bedwetters and think ...
Biden ABSOLUTELY didn't want any debates ...
He offered to debate with conditions he hoped would cause Trump to decline ... (just like the bedwetters want)
what do you ALWAYS want to force you opponent to do ? The thing he DOESN'T WANT to do ... (like debate)
A hour of Trump bashing will only increase his poll lead ... and hour of even handed questions will hammer Biden (and increase Trmps lead) ...
seems like a win-win ... and thats before Trump (WHO ALWAYS HAS a hostile interviewer in all appearances) turns the tables on the moderators once or twice or trice during the debate ...
Biden ABSOLUTELY didn't want any debates ...
He offered to debate with conditions he hoped would cause Trump to decline ... (just like the bedwetters want)
what do you ALWAYS want to force you opponent to do ? The thing he DOESN'T WANT to do ... (like debate)
A hour of Trump bashing will only increase his poll lead ... and hour of even handed questions will hammer Biden (and increase Trmps lead) ...
seems like a win-win ... and thats before Trump (WHO ALWAYS HAS a hostile interviewer in all appearances) turns the tables on the moderators once or twice or trice during the debate ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at May 16, 2024 02:21 PM (DBAaD)
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I'm not one for the "four dimensional chess" BS - but I think I see the outline of an actual strategy here. Trump's numbers have gone up with every piece of lawfare aimed at him, and he is very good at selling the victimhood persona (required in 2024). I think they have made a choice to lean in to the persecution.
My theory then is that the Trump camp wants the debate to be so incredibly unfair to Trump, that your average normie can't deny it, and he can use the experience to further ingratiate himself to voters who feel shit on by the elites.
Not saying it's a good strategy, but I think this is the play.
My theory then is that the Trump camp wants the debate to be so incredibly unfair to Trump, that your average normie can't deny it, and he can use the experience to further ingratiate himself to voters who feel shit on by the elites.
Not saying it's a good strategy, but I think this is the play.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at May 16, 2024 02:32 PM (5C4od)
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>>407 Ok, someone explain it to me like I'm an idiot. What does the actual fail case for this debate look like? Because when I'm picturing it, I'm having a hard time seeing how it can end up as bad as some people are making it out to be.
rewatch the Chris Wallace debate, which Trump did in fact lose, because he was barely permitted to speak, and Wallace answered Biden's questions for him. Asserting, for example, that Hunter Biden had NOT made millions from overseas influence-farmers.
If you don't want to bother watching that, then you're not honestly asking a question, you're doing stupid rhetorical questions shit and acting dumb.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (KRtlO)
The election hinges on a very small number of people in the swing States and swing precincts who are very susceptible to assholery and asshats like Tapper/CNN.
The instant agreement by Trump to ALL debate terms set by Biden was / is unnecessary . Trump did not negotiate. He agreed instantly to Biden's first debate proposal. VERY un- Trumpian to agree wholeheartedly with the first proposal to anything.
rewatch the Chris Wallace debate, which Trump did in fact lose, because he was barely permitted to speak, and Wallace answered Biden's questions for him. Asserting, for example, that Hunter Biden had NOT made millions from overseas influence-farmers.
If you don't want to bother watching that, then you're not honestly asking a question, you're doing stupid rhetorical questions shit and acting dumb.
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2024 01:06 PM (KRtlO)
The election hinges on a very small number of people in the swing States and swing precincts who are very susceptible to assholery and asshats like Tapper/CNN.
The instant agreement by Trump to ALL debate terms set by Biden was / is unnecessary . Trump did not negotiate. He agreed instantly to Biden's first debate proposal. VERY un- Trumpian to agree wholeheartedly with the first proposal to anything.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at May 16, 2024 02:33 PM (s74Xr)
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Yeah it's entirely possible that Trump and his people are just overconfident - in both Trump's ability and in Biden's senescence - and it's as simple as that.
I hope not because I agree that Joe will perform well at the debates - and by "well" I mean he will shuffle over the incredibly low bar that everyone will have set for him.
And if Biden's sponsors don't believe he will, then we will see the much anticipated medical emergency shortly before the debates.
I hope not because I agree that Joe will perform well at the debates - and by "well" I mean he will shuffle over the incredibly low bar that everyone will have set for him.
And if Biden's sponsors don't believe he will, then we will see the much anticipated medical emergency shortly before the debates.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at May 16, 2024 02:45 PM (5C4od)
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I love how so many commenters think that having a debate on even ground or a home field advantage will show up if they keep digging into the pile of sh*t that is th MSM/Dem Party ...
so no debates is what they wold end up with ... Tell me again how undecided voters swing to Trump with no debates ???
the extra hour of Trump bashing in the debate will be a tny tiny fraction of the non stop Trump bashing that happens every night on the MSM ...
but how much time does the MSM allow voters to see of Biden mumbling his way thru press conferences/interviews or public appearances ... an hour in a debate will expose voters to t10 times the amount of Biden gaffs as they are exposed too now ...
so no debates is what they wold end up with ... Tell me again how undecided voters swing to Trump with no debates ???
the extra hour of Trump bashing in the debate will be a tny tiny fraction of the non stop Trump bashing that happens every night on the MSM ...
but how much time does the MSM allow voters to see of Biden mumbling his way thru press conferences/interviews or public appearances ... an hour in a debate will expose voters to t10 times the amount of Biden gaffs as they are exposed too now ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at May 16, 2024 03:08 PM (DBAaD)
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The one thing I would like to see Trump ask for is that the moderators mic's get cut off once a candidate starts to answer a question ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at May 16, 2024 03:10 PM (DBAaD)
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Mr. President, don't touch that hot stovetop! It'll burn you!
Trump: "Yah I think I'll rest my balls on that stove, it looks comfy! Where's Maggie Haberman, I need help with my fly."
Trump: "Yah I think I'll rest my balls on that stove, it looks comfy! Where's Maggie Haberman, I need help with my fly."
Posted by: Smoothbrain McShitlib at May 16, 2024 03:26 PM (N/oGZ)
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94 Debates do not change minds. Everyone who hates Trump will still hate Trump no matter how well he does or doesn't do. Everyone who thinks Biden is a blithering idiot will still think he is a blithering idiot no matter if he wanders off the stage during the debate or if we get dark Brandon.
Biden is IS a blithering idiot who has brought the country to the brink of disaster and no debate is going to change that.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (t/2Uw)
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At this point you have the current President (LOL) and the former President. Both are complete known quantities. We have their track records to compare.
Biden is IS a blithering idiot who has brought the country to the brink of disaster and no debate is going to change that.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 16, 2024 12:17 PM (t/2Uw)
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At this point you have the current President (LOL) and the former President. Both are complete known quantities. We have their track records to compare.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 16, 2024 04:39 PM (2fIO4)
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