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AARP Poll: Trump Is Thumping Biden in Pennsylvania By Five Points

Interesting.

He's winning the Boomers. He's winning Gen X, aka "The New Greatest Generation," by 16. (Even though I'm not yet 29, I identify as a Gen Xer.)

He's winning all other age groups, including the very young, by a point.

Strom comments:

If Trump actually wins, Pennsylvania Biden's path to victory will be extraordinarily difficult to find. Arizona looks out of reach, as does Georgia. North Carolina could be a blowout, and even Nevada looks out of reach. That leaves Wisconsin and Michigan as competitive.

He also notes:

[I]f you look at the timing of the polls, a clear trend emerges. Trump does better each week. That likely means there is a trend. It's not proof of one, but it sure looks like one.

Regarding Nevada, Hot Air had a headline about a group called Inside Elections, who had been keeping Nevada as "leans Biden" for months despite, you know, Trump actually being head in Nevada, and not by just a couple of points, either. The Real Clear Politics average has Trump ahead by +4.5.

So Inside Elections finally decided to check the polls, and now rate Nevada as... A Toss-Up!

Biden currently trails in the six most important states, including Arizona (Trump +3.2), Georgia (Trump +5.9), Michigan (Trump +1.4), Nevada (Trump +5.1), Pennsylvania (Trump +1. and Wisconsin (Trump +2.7), according to the FiveThirtyEight averages through Tuesday afternoon. Biden won all of those states narrowly in 2020 but may not carry any of them in 2024, if current trends hold up.

Considering Republicans' struggle in presidential cycles, Nevada was the only state not rated as a Toss-up by Inside Elections up to this point. While the GOP won big races in 2022 and 2014, former Sen. Dean Heller was the last Republican to win statewide in Nevada in a presidential cycle, and that was back in 2012. The GOP presidential nominee hasn't won the Silver State since President George W. Bush's reelection in 2004.

But Biden won Nevada by just 2.4 points against an unpopular incumbent and is at significant risk of losing Nevada in November as the unpopular incumbent himself. Considering the current president's struggle generally and with Hispanic voters specifically, Biden doesn't have a distinguishable advantage in Nevada.

Inside Elections is therefore changing Nevada's rating in the presidential race from Tilt Democratic to Toss-up.

538 has it at Trump +5.1, and RCP has it at Trump +4.5. So it's a Toss Up.

As the Black Knight said, "All right, we'll call it a draw."

LOL. Cope and seethe, cope and seethe.

In the below chart, we can see that Biden has lost ground with every single group save two. The chart is actually wrong in a couple of places, and claims, for example, Biden's lead climbed by +13 with 30-49 year olds when actually Trump gained +13. Biden still has a small lead (allegedly), but Trump reduced that lead to nothing.

Similarly they wrongly claim that Biden gained +7 with Hispanics. No. Looking at their own information, Biden had led with Hispanics by +14 and is now down to +7. So Trump gained +7 with Hispanics.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:15 PM




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1 Nap time wake up in time1

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 04:15 PM (ZdexC)

2 1

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:15 PM (N1tpc)

3 First!

Posted by: PabloD at May 09, 2024 04:15 PM (PW3im)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 09, 2024 04:15 PM (T4tVD)

5 Ace, you seem awfully worldly for someone who's yet to reach the mature age of 29.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:15 PM (tT6L1)

6 Dang, not even close...

Posted by: PabloD at May 09, 2024 04:15 PM (PW3im)

7 It doesn't matter who votes. All that matters is who counts the votes.

Philly and Pittsburgh will prove that again this year.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:16 PM (N1tpc)

8 Those Philly precincts have a lot of ballots to "find"

Posted by: brak at May 09, 2024 04:16 PM (AR07F)

9 Ours is CARP, BTW.

And, get off my lawn!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 04:16 PM (ZdexC)

10 Let's hope this all matters

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 09, 2024 04:16 PM (xcxpd)

11 FJB

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at May 09, 2024 04:17 PM (Yvx+v)

12 *thinks about black pill MP4 tribute comment, decides against it*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2024 04:18 PM (di6C2)

13 He's winning all other age groups, including the very young, by a point.
++++
What's the margin of error>

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:18 PM (d04cU)

14 No. Looking at their own information, Biden had led with Hispanics by +14 and is now down to +7.
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Joe beaten inflation down to only 3%!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 04:18 PM (ZdexC)

15 With a few more "newcomer" rapes of young American women, maybe Trump could win them too.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 09, 2024 04:18 PM (7mSw0)

16 Standard point about being six months out from the election and polls in general.

That said, assuming the methodology in this one is sound (no reason to do so), the reason for this probably rhymes with "inflation" and "terrorist children."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (d04cU)

17 538 has it at Trump +5.1, and RCP has it at Trump +4.5. So it's a Toss Up.

As the Black Knight said, "All right, we'll call it a draw."

=======

1. The final polls in 2020 overestimated Biden's support by 7.

2. I watched that earlier today. So funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

18 117%. Bitches.

Posted by: Philly precincts at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (R4t5M)

19 It doesn't matter who votes. All that matters is who counts the votes.

Philly and Pittsburgh will prove that again this year.


Now that we have the obligatory preliminaries out of the way, perhaps we can say something new and interesting.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (CsUN+)

20 The poll will tell the narrative the outfit that commissioned the poll wants to push.

The narrative will change.

So will the polls.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (Q4IgG)

21 Otters called.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (ZdexC)

22 It doesn't matter who votes. All that matters is who counts the votes.

Philly and Pittsburgh will prove that again this year.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:16 PM (N1tpc)

Additionally, Michigan legalized voter fraud, so +1.8 is a 10 point loss.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (N1tpc)

23 And the "best" news for Biden on the chart (Millennials) is an error that actually favors Trump:
_______
Karen didn't major in math.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (1bNHn)

24 Hatches are battened. Pumps are primed. We have severe storms in my AO and they are stacked and about 1 hour apart.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (nFo4U)

25 If Trump actually wins, Pennsylvania Biden's path to victory will be extraordinarily difficult to find. Arizona looks out of reach, as does Georgia. North Carolina could be a blowout, and even Nevada looks out of reach. That leaves Wisconsin and Michigan as competitive.
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AZ is not out of reach for Biden. The steal is in good shape there in case he can't win legitimately. Ditto Pennsylvania. Georgia is probably not out of reach. Not sure about North Carolina.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (d04cU)

26 Trump is competitive in Wisconsin. *lol* And the Brewers will win the Super Bowl this year

-Milwaukee County vote tabulation

Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (LX4y3)

27 10 Let's hope this all matters
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 09, 2024 04:16 PM (xcxpd)

======

No harm in hoping.

Privately.

Behind closed doors. With signs that say, "the courts will just do it all again."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

28 This Biden victory is gonna cost Zuckerberg a shit ton of money.

Posted by: pudinhead at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (/UtnQ)

29 Please enjoy the "Rage Ritual," a ceremony in which women scream and beat stuff with sticks

https://shorturl.at/bvFS6

-
And we accuse them of being too emotional.

P.S. Where's a good bear when you need one?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (L/fGl)

30 I currently hold two diametrically-opposed ideas in my head, and it's giving me a migraine.

1 - They're going to cheat their balls off again, and none of this matters.

2 - Trump was never really leading in any significant way during the run-up to the 2020 election. It's easy to cheat your way to victory when you only need to move the needle a skosh. It's far, far harder to cheat at the level that this kind of polling indicates would be required, and can therefore be overcome by a large enough margin of victory.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (/nCD+)

31 This is why they are starting to panic.

You really can't steal an election if you have Walter Mondale's numbers.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (uxCna)

32 Biden: I won't rest until the hostages are home with their families. They have my word. Now let's go get something to eat.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (0gguK)

33 I think everybody should refuse to vote and come here everyday to say "Voting doesn't matter." That will show them. /s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (XkYcA)

34 It still sucks to think that a thumping is taking 10 people and having six of them agree with you.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 09, 2024 04:21 PM (KbCG3)

35 @10

>>Let's hope this all matters

Listen, it all comes down to who has the apparatus and who can stuff more real or conjured paper into the tabulators, that's it, that's the game at this point.

Oh and also, the post election counting and certification is probably going to go in till January 5th 2025.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2024 04:21 PM (XV/Pl)

36 19 It doesn't matter who votes. All that matters is who counts the votes.

Philly and Pittsburgh will prove that again this year.

Now that we have the obligatory preliminaries out of the way, perhaps we can say something new and interesting.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (CsUN+)
_______
"New and interesting" is for idiots. True is where it's at.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 09, 2024 04:21 PM (1bNHn)

37 25 AZ is not out of reach for Biden. The steal is in good shape there in case he can't win legitimately. Ditto Pennsylvania. Georgia is probably not out of reach. Not sure about North Carolina.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (d04cU)

========

One day voting and purple fingers, I imagine Trump would win by 200 electoral votes.

That we have to talk about "the margin of cheat" and have been for so long is a disgrace.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

38 Hatches are battened. Pumps are primed. We have severe storms in my AO and they are stacked and about 1 hour apart.

What is AO? Area of Operation?

I think everybody should refuse to vote and come here everyday to say "Voting doesn't matter." That will show them. /s

They don't already?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 04:22 PM (CsUN+)

39 aarp poll. They are a heavily left leaning organization of old people that vote.


They are anti gun, anti freedom and pushed medicare for all for the last decade. If they are running a poll of their members that has trump up by 5 he is most likely up by way more than that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2024 04:22 PM (QNSds)

40 >>LOL. Cope and seethe, cope and seethe.

Holy crap is that video gay.

Posted by: Liberace's Cabana Boy at May 09, 2024 04:22 PM (Vmfts)

41 The democrat party must be holding off until late October in instructing the AARP to drop another set of their boilerplate, "REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA TAKE YOUR RETIREMENT AND MURDER YOU!!1" adverts.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 09, 2024 04:22 PM (DTX3h)

42 Personally, I'm pretty confident about NC, which is where I live.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 09, 2024 04:22 PM (1bNHn)

43 Biden currently trails in the six most important states, including Arizona (Trump +3.2), Georgia (Trump +5.9), Michigan (Trump +1.4), Nevada (Trump +5.1), Pennsylvania (Trump +1. and Wisconsin (Trump +2.7)
++++
Arizona: dead letter. Cheating is a way of life. Margins are irrelevant.
Georgia: Who knows. They passed new laws recently. If they help, it might be competitive. I doubt they will help, but I acknowledge the possibility.
Michigan: Inside traditional margins for fraud
Pennsylvania: dead letter. Cheating is a way of life. Margins are irrelevant.
Wisconsin: Tough, but doable. Madison will deliver the ballots

This could all widen, of course, and it could also all be bullshit public polling (my default assumption). But if it doesn't, Trump doesn't win unless the Party approves it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:22 PM (d04cU)

44 That Ballot Counting Center (PA?) that covered it's windows with paper and cardboard in 2020?

Yeah. "Observers" should come equipped with axes and sledgehammers.

Should've happened THAT NIGHT in 2020, in fact.

And NO OBSERVER gets "sent home" at midnight, while counts continue on. They'd have to get their State Police to take me out cuffed, and the hell raising would have only begun.

Yes, OBSERVERS need to be willing to suffer arrest, as THAT is true "harm" for the subsequent lawsuits. They'd have standing, too.

Counting Ballots. Ain't for sissies, anymore.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (e6UQI)

45 It's shocking that people want to be able to buy food.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (yqqF2)

46 We looked at the Nevada polls and declare that Biden has won Nevada.

-Fox News

Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (LX4y3)

47 30 2 - Trump was never really leading in any significant way during the run-up to the 2020 election. It's easy to cheat your way to victory when you only need to move the needle a skosh. It's far, far harder to cheat at the level that this kind of polling indicates would be required, and can therefore be overcome by a large enough margin of victory.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (/nCD+)

=======

And the final polls were very wrong, but it got swept under the rug because they predicted a Biden victory.

So, they were right, even though they were very wrong, and six states shut down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall.

My only question is: do the people of AZ accept Maricopa counting for 3 weeks in batches that make no sense?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

48 This is why they are starting to panic.

You really can't steal an election if you have Walter Mondale's numbers.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (uxCna)

You certainly can. It just becomes REALLY obvious.

The ruling class MIGHT be afraid of making it too obvious.

Or might just YOLO it and say "What are you going to do about it!?" to the rest of the country.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (N1tpc)

49 Following by a rousing chorus of "America is finished!! No hope" and then we can all have a massive cookout followed by a communal wrist slitting/s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (XkYcA)

50
The Boomer data is no surprise at all since-

they are the group most familiar Senile Corrupt Sniffy Joe. He's been around since the 70s.

Biden has been considered, at best, The Village Idiot of the Senate.

Even if he weren't senile, he'd be a nightmare president.

I truly can't understand why anyone in that ae group would've voted for that retard.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (eDfFs)

51 That we have to talk about "the margin of cheat" and have been for so long is a disgrace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
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It is, but it's also delightfully anachronistic. It's the last war. The old battle. It doesn't matter anymore.

The entire premise behind the "margin of fraud" concept was wrong. I don't know *when* it became wrong (it probably wasn't always), but 2020 demonstrated it to be a false concept. The "margin of fraud" does not exist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (d04cU)

52 Hatches are battened. Pumps are primed. We have severe storms in my AO and they are stacked and about 1 hour apart.

What is AO? Area of Operation?

I think everybody should refuse to vote and come here everyday to say "Voting doesn't matter." That will show them. /s

They don't already?
Posted by: Archimedes


AO - yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (nFo4U)

53 f you look at the timing of the polls, a clear trend emerges. Trump does better each week. That likely means there is a trend. It's not proof of one, but it sure looks like one.

-

The neat part is remembering that Trump is in a courtroom and barred from actively campaigning AND is being slapped with fines and penalties for speaking out about the injustices, with the threat of jail a very real thing.

And normal people support him.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (yqqF2)

54 I am going to git me one of them "Believe" t-shirts...

Posted by: runner at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (V13WU)

55 dangit ace

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (yqqF2)

56 48 You certainly can. It just becomes REALLY obvious.

The ruling class MIGHT be afraid of making it too obvious.

Or might just YOLO it and say "What are you going to do about it!?" to the rest of the country.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (N1tpc)

=======

It was wildly obvious in 2020. That's why they had to make it effectively illegal to talk about it.

It will be worse in 2024. How will America react?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

57 Sorry, dangit pixy. Ace is pretty blameless in these things.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (yqqF2)

58 I watched that earlier today. So funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

...

Movie came out quite a while ago.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (z/ifB)

59 That Ballot Counting Center (PA?) that covered it's windows with paper and cardboard in 2020?

Yeah. "Observers" should come equipped with axes and sledgehammers.

Should've happened THAT NIGHT in 2020, in fact.

And NO OBSERVER gets "sent home" at midnight, while counts continue on. They'd have to get their State Police to take me out cuffed, and the hell raising would have only begun.

Yes, OBSERVERS need to be willing to suffer arrest, as THAT is true "harm" for the subsequent lawsuits. They'd have standing, too.

Counting Ballots. Ain't for sissies, anymore.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (e6UQI)

The cardboard windows was Detroit. One of the places with massive fraud going on.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (N1tpc)

60 LOL @ "Cope-a-Cabana." And the spoof guy sings better than Manilow. But then, so does a crow.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (0FoWg)

61 I saw a poll the other day that Trump is now splitting almost evenly, suburban women .. the key to Joe winning Pennsylvania in 2020.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (RHGPo)

62 Biden's up +99 with vans full of mail-in ballots, though.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (okcpZ)

63 aarp poll. They are a heavily left leaning organization of old people that vote.


They are anti gun, anti freedom and pushed medicare for all for the last decade. If they are running a poll of their members that has trump up by 5 he is most likely up by way more than that.


I thought about that, but it could be a motivational thing to get Biden's voters to the polls. One thing is certain: the AARP is not to be trusted.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (CsUN+)

64 Doubling down.

Ben Rhodes
@brhodes
This is the right decision by Biden - to condition aid and do it publicly. There cannot be a blank check for the Israeli government to escalate a humanitarian catastrophe that is making no one safer. Backs up words with actions and aligns with US and intl law.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (L/fGl)

65 51 The entire premise behind the "margin of fraud" concept was wrong. I don't know *when* it became wrong (it probably wasn't always), but 2020 demonstrated it to be a false concept. The "margin of fraud" does not exist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (d04cU)

=======

I think the margin was just an understanding. No one cheats too much too often, and no one says too much about it. Let's just have this pillow fight about voter ID instead.

And then Democrats crossed the imaginary line in 2020, Republicans gave no pushback, and Democrats realized that the line was imaginary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

66 Or might just YOLO it and say "What are you going to do about it!?" to the rest of the country.

Worked for me!

Posted by: Alexander Grigoryevich Lukashenko! at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (uxCna)

67 26 Trump is competitive in Wisconsin. *lol* And the Brewers will win the Super Bowl this year

-Milwaukee County vote tabulation
Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (LX4y3)
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-Don't forget Madison. Oh, and Zuckerberg running Green Bay elections.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (G0vdT)

68 Who knew Trump would be the Democrats own personal tar baby...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (+3UD9)

69 With a few more "newcomer" rapes of young American women, maybe Trump could win them too.

If you mean the newcomers, maybe. If you mean young, single women, no chance in hell.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (/y8xj)

70 I truly can't understand why anyone in that ae group would've voted for that retard.
Posted by: naturalfake

Trump said pussy.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (R4t5M)

71 Wait, are auto close tags automatic now?

I take back 40% of my dangit pixy if so.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (yqqF2)

72 58 I watched that earlier today. So funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

...

Movie came out quite a while ago.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (z/ifB)

=======

The Blu-ray is very pretty, though!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

73 >>(Even though I'm not yet 29, I identify as a Gen Xer.)

Ok boomer.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (LkLld)

74 It was wildly obvious in 2020. That's why they had to make it effectively illegal to talk about it.

It will be worse in 2024. How will America react?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

It was wildly obvious to those not willing to delude themselves.

My wife has friends that are happily "non-political". They don't believe the election was stolen.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

75 This is funny:

Comedian VS Biden staffer:

https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/178863758
4182104313

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (eDfFs)

76 ⚡️ AO = Alpha and Omega!!! ⚡️

🌧️
☔️

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (ZdexC)

77 Pa is going to have street dumpster ballot drops, they know the Democrats/ Marxists are going to get lots of votes against what is happening. And they will work to wipe out votes for Trump

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (fwDg9)

78 The Blu-ray is very pretty, though!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

...

The Historian dies btw.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (z/ifB)

79 Biden is giving money to college kidz, but he is taking appliances and gas cars away from everyone. Joe is taking away kids innocence, especially young girls forced to shower with males. He is taking away women's sports and inserting trannies. Big Guy is taking away lives with his friendly China fentanyl.

And everything costs more and rates are higher, so he has taken away home ownership. Can't walk downtown in many cities now, and he wants to take your guns. He has taken lower/middle class jobs and given them to foreign invaders.

Joe is not really a giver ... he is a taker, including his 10%.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (Cus5s)

80 Off topic but I am surprised. Here is Lindsey Graham of all people making his point in a cogent way and ending with a righteous speech.
https://tinyurl.com/yrxpyxdx

I actually wanted to applaud at the end.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (t/2Uw)

81 It's 6 months away from the election day but somehow, Democrats running in other races will soon be separating themselves from Joe Biden

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (RHGPo)

82 “Shame about the pipes leaking in ever swing state biggest city, huh?”

— 2024 Election Night

Posted by: Lizzy at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (Hkcdp)

83 Yes, OBSERVERS need to be willing to suffer arrest, as THAT is true "harm" for the subsequent lawsuits. They'd have standing, too.

Counting Ballots. Ain't for sissies, anymore.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (e6UQI)

--------------------

I'm surprised select secretaries of state and various voting officials haven't gotten anonymous letters explaining they will "get it" if observers are kicked out and counting "stopped".

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (7mSw0)

84
I want all the Eeyore's to tell me how they are prepping for another four years of Biden. Without that info they're nothing but trolls.

If you really really think that Biden can win you'd be doing some serious shit. Daily.

I don't think Biden can win, I don't think they can cheat to the level required, but I am preppin' my ever-living ass off.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (RKVpM)

85 “Who knows, Trump might be dead next month?”

Posted by: Jen Psaki at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (Hkcdp)

86 43 Yeah Madison has got near 100% Dem voting down pat. Seriously. The real problem is Milwaukee, as that is where they have cars with magic trunks that seem to be were all the Dem votes are put instead of counted at once, only to magically appear when needed.

Walker won when Milwaukee had thought it was sage in magic ballots only to discover the Waukesha clerk failed to send in all the votes, too late for Milwaukee to swing the election.

Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (LX4y3)

87 I'll grant that Gen X is better than the other living generations. But then - so are crows.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (0FoWg)

88 Joey has six more months to screw things up even worse. And he will.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (+3UD9)

89 I think the RNC was caught flat footed with the cheat in 2020 and relied to heavily on the courts.

This time around, I suspect the RNC, because Ronna is gone, will make sure they do a better job of keeping an eye on the counting process.

For instance, in AZ, I think they'll make sure signature verification is done from the start rather than claiming foul after the fact. Once the deed is done, it's a lot harder to challenge than making sure the rules are enforced going in.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (tT6L1)

90 Okay, if Trump can take PA, AZ, and GA, that's 281 electoral votes and he will be the next president.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (d9fT1)

91 November is a long way off.

Poles are for strippers. Strippers who hopefully sani wipe in between performances. Did I tell you about the gals who came in with the same staph infections who worked at the same strip joint?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (kzq+c)

92 Oh, and Zuckerberg running Green Bay elections.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (G0vdT)

I am so dang tired that I read that as "Zoidberg" and thought, "It's probably an improvement."

Posted by: pookysgirl knows that everything's coming up Zoidberg at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (dtlDP)

93 One man deserves the credit.

One man deserves the blame.

Nikolai Ivanovitch Lobachevsky is his name.

Posted by: Tom Lehrer at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (mSufQ)

94 74 It was wildly obvious to those not willing to delude themselves.

My wife has friends that are happily "non-political". They don't believe the election was stolen.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (N1tpc)

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And DU doesn't believe it either.

But active efforts to make people pariahs for talking about a stolen election don't happen because not very many people are talking about it. Those efforts happen because a lot of people are talking about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

95 He's winning Gen X, aka "The New Greatest Generation," by 16.
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It's a shame there aren't more of us.

Posted by: Methos at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (Dnobf)

96
Once you've claimed Trump is an existential threat to the country, then what measures aren't justified to thwart him?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (MoZTd)

97 The craziest thing about 2024 will be that Maryland will elect a GOP senator and Arizona won't.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (xPl2J)

98 Yeah Zoidberg would be

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (+3UD9)

99 78 The Blu-ray is very pretty, though!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

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The Historian dies btw.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2024 04:27 PM (z/ifB)

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Spoilers! He was my favorite!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

100 I want all the Eeyore's to tell me how they are prepping for another four years of Biden. Without that info they're nothing but trolls.

-

I don't have any more room for buying, so I'm mainly just rotating stock.

I have been buying some silver for fun, but I don't think it's going to be of any significant use unless it's truly burning times.

The most important thing someone can do is join a church and build relationships / community. Because that is mostly dead in our age.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (yqqF2)

101 Well Romney and Ryan aren't voting for Trump so that seals it for me! To vote for Trump.

Posted by: Cheri at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (oiNtH)

102 ... And then Democrats crossed the imaginary line in 2020, Republicans gave no pushback, and Democrats realized that the line was imaginary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Right, and demonstrated in the process that the "margin of fraud" doesn't exist. The entire concepts rests on the assumption that it is possible to go too far - that fraud can and does happen, but needs to be kept reasonable so as to not too badly strain credibility.

In 2020, the Party went YOLO and threw credibility out the window - and, as you mention, got away with it - and proceeded along. If the cheating can be transparent to the point of tedium and at such a large scale that it cannot be believed and the *only* consequence was a bunch of analysts and thinkpieces talking about how weird and unlikely it is, then credibility no longer matters. It's purely a power and propaganda question at that point.

And so the "margin of fraud" is a null value. It doesn't exist. The concept has been disproven. The "margin of fraud" is in fact undefined (e.g., there is no limit and therefore no margin).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (d04cU)

103 Oh. And the talking points are circling back to Jan 6.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (kzq+c)

104 Thank you from me and I imagine the other 'Ettes for the Copcabana video.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (t/2Uw)

105 New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan has got to be taking blowback from his trial in NYC of Trump.

At this moment, Judge Merchan is the gating factor between Trump winning in November and the Republicans walking all over the Democrats in November. The judge has to walk softly.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (RHGPo)

106 If somehow Pa goes for Trump, just like in 2016 it's over and a done deal.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 04:31 PM (fwDg9)

107 I truly can't understand why anyone in that ae group would've voted for that retard.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (eDfFs)

I know an Old democrat Boomer Fart who's crippled up layabout husband is a retired federal judge. She voted for Joe Biden to keep her and her shithead husband rolling in the dough of the federal retirement and health care tax payer swindles.

I told her if her old man would just croak her problems were over.

She didn't like that one.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 09, 2024 04:31 PM (4a+k3)

108 Sorry, dangit pixy. Ace is pretty blameless in these things.
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Have we met??

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 04:31 PM (ZdexC)

109 Krispy Kreme Kristie won't vote for Trump either.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 09, 2024 04:31 PM (+3UD9)

110 89 I think the RNC was caught flat footed with the cheat in 2020 and relied to heavily on the courts.

This time around, I suspect the RNC, because Ronna is gone, will make sure they do a better job of keeping an eye on the counting process.

For instance, in AZ, I think they'll make sure signature verification is done from the start rather than claiming foul after the fact. Once the deed is done, it's a lot harder to challenge than making sure the rules are enforced going in.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (tT6L1)

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They brought cases before the election because secretaries of state were changing voting laws without input from legislatures. That was outright illegal.

The courts just sided with Democrats because covid.

I'm sure the RNC team was inept and didn't have their hearts in it. I'm also sure that the courts were happy to just help Democrats break the law. The former might have changed. The latter has not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

111 Ben Rhodes
@brhodes
This is the right decision by Biden - to condition aid and do it publicly. There cannot be a blank check for the Israeli government to escalate a humanitarian catastrophe that is making no one safer. Backs up words with actions and aligns with US and intl law.

Conditioning aid was impeachable just a few years ago, you dickhead-looking pile of shit.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 09, 2024 04:32 PM (/nCD+)

112 And so the "margin of fraud" is a null value. It doesn't exist. The concept has been disproven. The "margin of fraud" is in fact undefined (e.g., there is no limit and therefore no margin).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (d04cU)

Not just 2020... 2022, senate races and governors.
I feel like since 2018, enough house races are arranged to keep the "in" in... They switched from low level cleating to make sure our people are in.

Posted by: Stanky Janky at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (53oGX)

113 102 And so the "margin of fraud" is a null value. It doesn't exist. The concept has been disproven. The "margin of fraud" is in fact undefined (e.g., there is no limit and therefore no margin).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (d04cU)

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Well, unless you think that 2020 was just normal amounts of fraud that happen all the time and Trump was just not a quality candidate like Joe Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

114 He's winning all other age groups, including the very young, by a point.
......

Little girls must be tired of being sniffed by President Old Man Balls.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (v0R5T)

115 I don't think Biden can win, I don't think they can cheat to the level required, but I am preppin' my ever-living ass off.
Posted by: Divide by Zero


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The truth is that it just doesn't matter. Trump needs a super majority of far right extremists in both houses, and he needs half the judges in the country to come down with bubonic plague or he will be unable to do a damn thing besides slow the decline.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (Vmfts)

116 I am still thinking in August we will find who is running against Trump, and think Sundowner or the Ho probably won't be the pick

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (fwDg9)

117 I think at this rate the options are to let Big D win, and spend four more years in open insurrection, or steal it again at a time when virtually *nobody* will be believe the result is legit.

There are upshots to both of those of scams, but both are mostly downside. Either way, as always, the regime will see to it that we suffer for inconveniencing them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (0FoWg)

118 This time around, I suspect the RNC, because Ronna is gone, will make sure they do a better job of keeping an eye on the counting process.

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Since it seems you are in the market, I have a gently-used bridge in Baltimore that I think you would be interested in.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at May 09, 2024 04:34 PM (B9Prs)

119 I want all the Eeyore's to tell me how they are prepping for another four years of Biden. Without that info they're nothing but trolls.

If you really really think that Biden can win you'd be doing some serious shit. Daily.

I don't think Biden can win, I don't think they can cheat to the level required, but I am preppin' my ever-living ass off.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM


Same here. I am buying silver as fast as I can afford it at today's prices. For the last 5 years we have been making double mortgage payments to get that debt off of our backs so we can free up that cash for the inflation that will kick into high gear if biden wins and the dems keep the senate. At this point the house is irrelevant. biden spends pretty much whatever he wants to spend without them saying a word.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

120 115 The truth is that it just doesn't matter. Trump needs a super majority of far right extremists in both houses, and he needs half the judges in the country to come down with bubonic plague or he will be unable to do a damn thing besides slow the decline.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (Vmfts)

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I think a Trump win combined with a slim majority in the Senate could do amazing things. That majority would need to be led, however, by someone willing to put the chamber in recess for just a few days, though.

Recess appoint like crazy for five business days. Then get those recess appointees to fire and cut like crazy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

121 ... I want all the Eeyore's to tell me how they are prepping for another four years of Biden. Without that info they're nothing but trolls. ...
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 09, 2024 04:28 PM (RKVpM)
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1. Dramatically reduced my spending, so I can save the difference
2. (Correlating to the first) dramatically increased my savings
3. Diversified investments, including into physical assets, in the hope that I can financially survive ten years of reduced employment/wages and higher costs. Beyond that, no point in planning
4. I'm improving my health. Poor health is going to be a serious detriment if he gets back in.
5. I'm improving my support network - both support I can offer and people I can ask for help

I battening down the hatches. If things turn out okay, I have literally lost *nothing* and some of it is shit I should have been doing anyway (only the financial pieces are related to political risk, the personal stuff is because I am trying to generally improve). If the shit hits the fan, I might be okay for a bit longer.

And I also don't think Trump winning alleviates many if any of the political risks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:34 PM (d04cU)

122 BLM Global Network files $33 million lawsuit against group helping fund college protests

... this has the feel of a "who is the greatest victim" contest

No ... Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is claiming that the Tides Foundation withheld more than $33 million in donations.

They must need to Buy Large Mansions

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:34 PM (RHGPo)

123 But trump has no path to victory!!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 09, 2024 04:35 PM (P9xGM)

124 We can vote, and we can act as if voting doesn't matter. We will have to do both to un-fuck the country.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (cf/0E)

125 >>> With a few more "newcomer" rapes of young American women, maybe Trump could win them too.

If you mean the newcomers, maybe. If you mean young, single women, no chance in hell.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2024 04:26 PM (/y8xj)


Yeah if the whole torn apart by bears VS The Patriarchy silliness has shown us anything it's that they are a lost cause. They're married to the left and will fight to make sure they're cast upon Marx's funeral pyre to burn along with their spouse.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (Y6IkP)

126 I look forward to Trump getting the most votes ever for a challenger...and losing to Biden's 100M totally real vote count that isn't fraudulent

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (ibTVg)

127 Yeah if the whole torn apart by bears VS The Patriarchy silliness has shown us anything it's that they are a lost cause. They're married to the left and will fight to make sure they're cast upon Marx's funeral pyre to burn along with their spouse.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (Y6IkP)
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On the plus side, none of them mean it.

On the minus side, there is social capital to be obtained by pretending they do.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (d04cU)

128 Whoa that's pretty gay.

Posted by: fd at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (vFG9F)

129 Zuckerbucks were on the spring ballot in WI, and they were voted out in WI. NOw money will still be spent of course just not as openly or in the same places.

Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (LX4y3)

130 124 We can vote, and we can act as if voting doesn't matter. We will have to do both to un-fuck the country.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (cf/0E)

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I vote because I don't want my locality to get worse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

131 Hillary! recommends stumping and fundraising in New York and California. It's the clear path to victory.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (PY39Q)

132 I vote because I don't want my locality to get worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
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^^ This. Washington is a dead letter. Your locality and state might not be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (d04cU)

133 Same here. I am buying silver as fast as I can afford it at today's prices. For the last 5 years we have been making double mortgage payments to get that debt off of our backs so we can free up that cash for the inflation that will kick into high gear if biden wins and the dems keep the senate. At this point the house is irrelevant. biden spends pretty much whatever he wants to spend without them saying a word.
Posted by: Mister Scott


Silver $28.54 Up .95c
Gold $2357.90 Up $29.80
Per APMEX

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2024 04:38 PM (nFo4U)

134 Gen X, proving it is the New Greatest Generation - I like the renaming Ace...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2024 04:38 PM (exHjb)

135 Don't get cocky kid... it ain't over until I sing...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 09, 2024 04:38 PM (fQqaC)

136 Clearly, the major media organs (like the kidneys) are floating on Denial that Trump is doing so well.

Will they turn ugly or start practicing journalism ?

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:38 PM (RHGPo)

137 Don't get cocky kid... it ain't over until I sing...

Someone mention cocky kids?

Posted by: John Weaver at May 09, 2024 04:39 PM (ibTVg)

138 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 09, 2024 04:32 PM (/nCD+)
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Glad to see you posting. Status update on how you're getting along?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (ju2Fy)

139 They brought cases before the election because secretaries of state were changing voting laws without input from legislatures. That was outright illegal.

The courts just sided with Democrats because covid.

I'm sure the RNC team was inept and didn't have their hearts in it. I'm also sure that the courts were happy to just help Democrats break the law. The former might have changed. The latter has not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
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The RNC may have done that, but, what did they do to ensure a clean election? I seem to recall the RNC sort of threw up their hands and said, "Well we tried" rather than fight the cheat at the precinct level. Then, once it was obvious, after the fact, then they went back to the well that had already screwed them over.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (tT6L1)

140 Democrats project. What they claimed Trump attempted on January 6th, they are setting up the conditions to do in fact.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (5vxvF)

141 I'm going to vote local/state this time, because I'm not in a rotten borough this time. I think. Who knows?

But no, not for Preezy or Fed Congress.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (0FoWg)

142 132 I vote because I don't want my locality to get worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
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^^ This. Washington is a dead letter. Your locality and state might not be.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (d04cU
You just described Eromero’s ancestors 1861.

Posted by: Eromero at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (o2ZRX)

143 129 Zuckerbucks were on the spring ballot in WI, and they were voted out in WI. NOw money will still be spent of course just not as openly or in the same places.
Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:37 PM (LX4y3)
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Right. I forgot about that.

Hawaiian Judge: "Overruled"

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (G0vdT)

144 139 The RNC may have done that, but, what did they do to ensure a clean election? I seem to recall the RNC sort of threw up their hands and said, "Well we tried" rather than fight the cheat at the precinct level. Then, once it was obvious, after the fact, then they went back to the well that had already screwed them over.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (tT6L1)

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The had an army of lawyers on the ground.

The new RNC has promised an army of lawyers on the ground.

I've heard the promise of armies of lawyers on the ground for a very long time, and I think the only time it actually worked was in 2021 in the VA governor's race.

I'll believe that this army of lawyers on the ground will work when it works. Until then, it's smoke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

145 140 Democrats project. What they claimed Trump attempted on January 6th, they are setting up the conditions to do in fact.

.. they proved in 2020 that once the votes are cast, the courts will do nothing to change it unless you have ironclad proof.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (RHGPo)

146
The Democrats are flogging abortion like a rented mule as an issue to keep the single AWFL constituency in line and voting. Of course, it's no longer a federal issue, but the MSM will parrot any lie they're told to.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (MoZTd)

147 Where PA has lost voters. Hint- it's not losing Repubs

https://tinyurl.com/5442b36m

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (yeEu9)

148 He's winning all other age groups, including the very young, by a point.

That's so cute. You still believe polls.

Posted by: Marc Elias * rubbing his hands together waiting for another big payout at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (i7KoL)

149 I am still thinking in August we will find who is running against Trump, and think Sundowner or the Ho probably won't be the pick
Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 04:33 PM (fwDg9


Meh.

it's probably already in the bag.

All the DNCelite have to do is make sure that Biden is denied the majority of votes 1 or 2 times then "throw the whole thing open", and vote in who they wish.

Maybe.

The trick will be clamping down all the wannabe preezys once the vote opens up.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (eDfFs)

150 141 I'm going to vote local/state this time, because I'm not in a rotten borough this time. I think. Who knows?

But no, not for Preezy or Fed Congress.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (0FoWg)

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But then Jakeem Jeffries will become Speaker and Democrats will get everything they want! Heaven forfend!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

151 The RNC may have done that, but, what did they do to ensure a clean election? I seem to recall the RNC sort of threw up their hands and said, "Well we tried" rather than fight the cheat at the precinct level. Then, once it was obvious, after the fact, then they went back to the well that had already screwed them over.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (tT6L1)

It takes money and leg work to fight it at the precinct level - see how Youngkin won VA. I'm hoping Trump realizes how Youngkin did it, and employs an army across the US...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (exHjb)

152 Trump is competitive in Wisconsin. *lol* And the Brewers will win the Super Bowl this year

-Milwaukee County vote tabulation
Posted by: Bete at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (LX4y3)
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-Don't forget Madison. Oh, and Zuckerberg running Green Bay elections.
Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2024 04:25 PM (G0vdT)

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But don't discount the importance of Beau Biden -- when he was a Catholic school teacher -- being drafted by the Green Bay Packers ... before being gunned down by Kyle Rittenhouse.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (VyURZ)

153 Lasso Guy in New York looks a lot like P.Diddy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (4a+k3)

154 The AARP PA poll looks to be a bit of an outlier. It has Trump +4 in the H2H & Trump +5 in the 5-way.

The RCP avg of all PA polls has Trump +1.8, IIRC. Nobody except AARP has the race in PA with Trump's lead outside the MOE.

AARP uses the Fabrizio Anzalone polling firm to conduct its polls. That firm is generally perceived to be Trump-friendly. Fabrizio is the Trump campaign's private pollster.

God knows I hope the AARP poll of PA is right, but it looks a little 2 gud 2B twue.*

*Madelene Kahn in Blazing Saddles: "It's twue! It's twue!"

Posted by: mnw at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (NLIak)

155 The had an army of lawyers on the ground.

The new RNC has promised an army of lawyers on the ground.

I've heard the promise of armies of lawyers on the ground for a very long time, and I think the only time it actually worked was in 2021 in the VA governor's race.

I'll believe that this army of lawyers on the ground will work when it works. Until then, it's smoke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

VA had the lawyers on the ground b/c Youngkin personally paid for them...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (exHjb)

156 Were it not for massive fraud that we all know is coming, and the untold #s of newly-minted Biden illegal aliens who have been secretly handed voter registrations, Trump may actually pull off a win.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 09, 2024 04:42 PM (mupln)

157 The RNC may have done that, but, what did they do to ensure a clean election? I seem to recall the RNC sort of threw up their hands and said, "Well we tried" rather than fight the cheat at the precinct level. Then, once it was obvious, after the fact, then they went back to the well that had already screwed them over.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:40 PM (tT6L1)

Wait, I thought the RNC had the greatest fighter for Elections ever, so great she should have been leading the RNC... Harmeet the Great!

Posted by: Inogame at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (53oGX)

158 >>Ben Rhodes
@brhodes


Isn't thins the crying faggot from the 2016 Election Night coverage?

One of Obama's Buttboys who mocked the News as puppies to be lead around by the nose?

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (vHu9s)

159 There was a great line in an article linked at Insty earlier. It seems a guy crashed his car in Mass., and his body was thrown from car and then dragged into the woods by a bear.

The police said “Evidence suggests the bear at some point had made contact with the victim’s body.” I assume that means the guys liver was chewed up.

Well most urban/suburban women will not vote R until they have some contact with belt loop guy, and by then it is too late since they will still vote D from the grave.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (Vmfts)

160 cope and seethe.

Holy crap is that video gay.
Posted by: Liberace's Cabana Boy


He could curl a Vespa in each hand but he's still dancing in his underwear.

Posted by: DaveA at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (FhXTo)

161 The beauty of being a leftist/Democrat is not obeying the law and having no morals. I'm going to look at these polls and not give a shit. I will print and fill out ballots to my hearts content, then count them. Who is going to stop me? Who is going to enforce the law when I am caught? A Republican in a "red state"? lolol!!!

I will do this shit right in your face and there isn't a f'ing thing you can do except rage stroke on a blog/comment section.

-a Democrat/leftist

Posted by: JROD at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (IlL6s)

162 >>It takes money and leg work to fight it at the precinct level - see how Youngkin won VA. I'm hoping Trump realizes how Youngkin did it, and employs an army across the US...

Trump won the presidency. Twice. Largely by outworking everyone. I think he gets it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (LkLld)

163 This feels like I could go back to the noon time thread and cut and paste everything I said then. I won't bother because I am just bored by the negativity about the possibility that the Dems won't succeed no matter how different the circumstances .
2020
Economy was good.
No wars
Pandemic was raging. Mail in ballots and drop boxes
Biden unknown policies because he was hiding in the basement.
BLM and base backing Dems
Lot of dislike for Trump's coarse attitudes,why not try someone else?
Now:
Economy sucks
No excuse for mail in ballots, drop boxes
two wars
Biden senile and getting worse
Biden's policies completely turned off his base including blacks, hispanics and unions.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:44 PM (t/2Uw)

164
My prepping in the past week has entailed buying a compost bin to create rich soil for growing food and lima bean seeds. Lima beans are rich in protein which muscles require. That's this week. The past 52 have been in the same vein.

There is no way that the millions Biden has let over our border are not going to create a critical mass which will kill a hundred million. He knows it... but Delaware beach house for Jill.

History is littered with people this reprehensible. As the line from Trainspotting says, 'Choose life.'

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 09, 2024 04:44 PM (RKVpM)

165 No, you guys....Roevember is coming! A stealth Blue wave is on its way, and all the signs are showing it!

An Republican Ottawa county commissioner has been unseated in Michigan after losing to her Democratic challenger by 20 percentage points. Donald Trump won the county with 61 percent of the vote in 2020.

That is a huge switch in a deep Red area. Amazing! Republicans celebrate polls. Democrats celebrate victories! Onward!

The funny thing is, the trump cult will never get the message. He keeps losing everything, and they cling tighter. Who can explain it?

I can explain it. They're that way because they're stupid and bigoted.

THEY CHEATED!!

Now to find out if this Democrat winner fights for the greater good or is a yellow striped blue dog.

Even a blue dog is better than a fascist, which most elected Republicans are nowadays.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 09, 2024 04:44 PM (JCZqz)

166 162 Trump won the presidency. Twice. Largely by outworking everyone. I think he gets it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (LkLld)

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He may understand it politically under the old rules.

I'm not sure he understands it extralegally under the new "rules".

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

167 Vice President Harris in a new interview expressed concern that the Supreme Court and its conservative majority could “undo recognized rights” after its 2022 ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade. “This court has shown itself to be an activist court,” Harris told The New York Times. “I worry about fundamental freedoms across the board.“ The vice president said she didn’t want to raise any specific legal precedents the court could overturn because she didn’t want to sound “alarmist.” “But this court has made it very clear that they are willing to undo recognized rights,” she told the outlet.

... the SCOTUS merely said in Dobbs that Roe V Wade was not rooted in tradition or the Constitituion. The court is not there to create new rights .. that is for the Congress and states to do through the amendment process.
(notice how there has been no attempt to have an abortion amendment)

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:45 PM (RHGPo)

168 I'll believe that this army of lawyers on the ground will work when it works. Until then, it's smoke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:41 PM (GBKbO)
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New and Improved with the same great flavor!

Fair point. I admit, I'm not nearly as invested as I was in 2020. Mainly because the country is so screwed up, it's hard to imagine it's possible to straighten things out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:45 PM (tT6L1)

169 Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (vHu9s)

Where were you yesterday evening? Steve Albini died!

None of these other chuckleheads knows who he is.

They got Steve, man. You F'n bastards.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 09, 2024 04:46 PM (dGCAG)

170 162 >>It takes money and leg work to fight it at the precinct level - see how Youngkin won VA. I'm hoping Trump realizes how Youngkin did it, and employs an army across the US...

Trump won the presidency. Twice. Largely by outworking everyone. I think he gets it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (LkLld)

But he didn't win the 2nd time. You only win if you are declared the winner.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2024 04:46 PM (exHjb)

171 168 New and Improved with the same great flavor!

Fair point. I admit, I'm not nearly as invested as I was in 2020. Mainly because the country is so screwed up, it's hard to imagine it's possible to straighten things out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:45 PM (tT6L1)

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I want 2024 to be the year that the Republican Party finally starts getting its act together regarding cheating. I mean,...it should have started in 1960 when JFK won by his father delivering Illinois through less than legal means, but 64 years too late is better than never, I guess.

Still, will 2024 be the Cool Ranch flavor of 2020?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

172 I dunno. Scott Pressler registers folks at gun shows, trucker rallies, Trump rallies. People he's taught are out doing the same. It's too bad none of those high paid consultants never considered we could register Republicans in those places.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 09, 2024 04:46 PM (yeEu9)

173 >>He may understand it politically under the old rules.

>>I'm not sure he understands it extralegally under the new "rules".

>>We'll see.

You think a bunch of morons on a blog know more about the stolen election than the guy who had the election stolen from him?

Seems unlikely.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (LkLld)

174 Don't count on Pennsylvania just yet. PA is extremely corrupt and voting is by no means secure or even reflective of actual votes cast.

Democrats control the major cities of Philly and Pittsburgh and both routinely report districts that have more votes for Democrats cast then the district has residents. Democrats are also known to receive 100% + of the votes from nursing homes and assisted living facilities, even of the residents are comatose they seem to be able to vote for Democrats.

Democrats are good at collecting ballots in Pa, not so much getting people to vote for them.

Posted by: Alfred at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (b6c/x)

175 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:44 PM (t/2Uw)

I agree with you, Sharon and I appreciate you posting it. I do think the powers that be will try another Disease Boogaloo for 2024. Whether they get with it. I don't know, but I think there are more favorable signs than in 2020.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (XkYcA)

176 170 162 >>It takes money and leg work to fight it at the precinct level - see how Youngkin won VA. I'm hoping Trump realizes how Youngkin did it, and employs an army across the US...

Trump won the presidency. Twice. Largely by outworking everyone. I think he gets it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (LkLld)

But he didn't win the 2nd time. You only win if you are declared the winner.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2024 04:46 PM (exHjb)

Well, I agree he didn't make sure he had a couple divisions ready to forcibly take over after it was stolen.
Maybe Younkin would have.

Posted by: Inogame at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (53oGX)

177 He could curl a Vespa in each hand but he's still dancing in his underwear.

Posted by: DaveA

Fine by me (-:

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (t/2Uw)

178 Largely by outworking everyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:43 PM (LkLld)

Well, not everyone. Obviously.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (dGCAG)

179 >>Where were you yesterday evening? Steve Albini died!

None of these other chuckleheads knows who he is.


I posted about it first thing in the morning and nobody here seemed to care.

I even dropped Big Black: Kerosene in the Comments.

Huge loss for the music industry. Guy was a fucking legendary producer and awesome musician.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (vHu9s)

180 The Fascists use of the term” Fascist” as a pejorative pretty much sums up their intellectual abilities…

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2024 04:48 PM (PCK5/)

181 173 You think a bunch of morons on a blog know more about the stolen election than the guy who had the election stolen from him?

Seems unlikely.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (LkLld)

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2022 tells me it's very likely he doesn't know as much as we do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)

182 >>But he didn't win the 2nd time. You only win if you are declared the winner.


So you believe that dudes in a dress who call themselves girls are girls because they declares themselves to be?

No, he won the election. It was then stolen. Both things are true.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:48 PM (LkLld)

183 175-Meant "get away with it"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2024 04:48 PM (XkYcA)

184 172 I dunno. Scott Pressler registers folks at gun shows, trucker rallies, Trump rallies. People he's taught are out doing the same. It's too bad none of those high paid consultants never considered we could register Republicans in those places.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 09, 2024 04:46 PM (yeEu9)

GMU grad...just sayin'...if you have to send your kids to college...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (exHjb)

185 >>You think a bunch of morons on a blog know more about the stolen election than the guy who had the election stolen from him?

>Seems unlikely.


That Commentor guy seems to think he knows an awful lot.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (vHu9s)

186 >>2022 tells me it's very likely he doesn't know as much as we do.

Sure thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (LkLld)

187 Republican Ottawa county commissioner has been unseated in Michigan

Ebel faced a recall vote after a was signed by some 3,000 people after she voted in favor of a motion to reverse Adeline Hambley's selection as the top health official in the county on February 28, 2023. Legal concerns had been raised about the motion.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (RHGPo)

188 You think a bunch of morons on a blog know more about the stolen election than the guy who had the election stolen from him?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (LkLld)

You really want an answer to that?

There were people, RIGHT HERE ON THIS VERY WEBZINE, who were screaming for weeks and months prior to the election, that they were going to steal it.

And they did.

So no, I don't think Trump knew. I don't think his brain works that way.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (dGCAG)

189 Yeah, but how is Trump polling among the Newcomers?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 09, 2024 04:50 PM (cOq4q)

190 Might want to keep an eye on the races in OR and WA. Governors race in WA. Lots of pissed off voters in both states.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 09, 2024 04:51 PM (yeEu9)

191 Posted by: Sid at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (51IEj)

You're wrong. He correctly predicted every election going back to Lincoln. He loves his job so much he refuses to die.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2024 04:51 PM (XkYcA)

192 Former Gov. Andrew Cuomo scored another win in his efforts to unravel the state’s new ethics commission, as part of an ongoing spat over his pandemic-era book deal. A mid-level appellate court upheld a lower court judge’s decision to scrap the Commission on Ethics and Lobbying in Government, COELIG, which had ordered the ex-gov to fork over proceeds from his pandemic era memoir.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:51 PM (RHGPo)

193 Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: Or so I've heard at May 09, 2024 04:52 PM (T4d5x)

194 I posted about it first thing in the morning and nobody here seemed to care.

I even dropped Big Black: Kerosene in the Comments.

Huge loss for the music industry. Guy was a fucking legendary producer and awesome musician.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (vHu9s)

Oh, heh. I missed yours, you missed mine. I dropped Jordan, Minnesota in the comments yesterday.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 09, 2024 04:52 PM (dGCAG)

195 >>You really want an answer to that?

>>There were people, RIGHT HERE ON THIS VERY WEBZINE, who were screaming for weeks and months prior to the election, that they were going to steal it.

So, what did you do about it?

Trump was screaming about it for a year, ever since the mass mail in ballots were started. He was in the news constantly talking about how it was a recipe to steal an election.

It was obvious they were going to try. It's one thing to know about it but it's something else to be able to stop 50 individual races in 50 states when your own party is helping sabatoge you.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:53 PM (LkLld)

196 It takes money and leg work to fight it at the precinct level - see how Youngkin won VA. I'm hoping Trump realizes how Youngkin did it, and employs an army across the US...

That sounds like a lot of work. It's easier just to give up.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 04:53 PM (CsUN+)

197 I can't imagine AARP would have a poll favorable to Trump on purpose

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2024 04:53 PM (Akjoo)

198 Georgia has a new law (passed in 2023) that allows the new state Prosecuting Attorneys' Council to depose an errant DA and replace the DA with a DA pro tempore. Dem DAs hate this law (the Council members take their oath of office in July this year). It's possible that with the ongoing GA Senate investigation into Fani Willis' naughty doings, she could be replaced before the November elections.

Posted by: mrp at May 09, 2024 04:53 PM (rj6Yv)

199 There were people, RIGHT HERE ON THIS VERY WEBZINE, who were screaming for weeks and months prior to the election, that they were going to steal it.

And they did.

So no, I don't think Trump knew. I don't think his brain works that way.
Posted by: BurtTC at


*raises hand*

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 09, 2024 04:53 PM (TC7Gi)

200 So now I read that Kristi Noem’s book contains a completely made-up story of how she met Kim Jung-Un.

Plus, she appears to have a metric shit-ton of plastic surgery.

Woman ain’t right in the head.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 09, 2024 04:54 PM (9yWhg)

201 >>Oh, heh. I missed yours, you missed mine. I dropped Jordan, Minnesota in the comments yesterday.


He was a local boy, here. From Missoula.

Lotta people I know were hit pretty hard yesterday.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:54 PM (vHu9s)

202 Trump was winning, then after midnight and that toilet leak, he lost every battleground state ... every one.

(not counting FL and OH, which were not really battles)

Republicans always lose those late "battles" as Dems just keeping coming up with more ballots, whether in trunks of a Buick, or from under some table after watchers are removed, or in some "secure" storeroom that was not secured, or in boxes that said they had 1000 ballots but only had 10 (that Stein found but then cancelled her investigation).

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2024 04:54 PM (Cus5s)

203 >> now I read that Kristi Noem’s book contains a completely made-up story of how she met Kim Jung-Un.


Wasn't she supposedly fucking Lewindowsky?

He's got a type. And it ain't well adjusted ladies.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:55 PM (vHu9s)

204 202 or in boxes that said they had 1000 ballots but only had 10 (that Stein found but then cancelled her investigation).
Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2024 04:54 PM (Cus5s)

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That sounds familiar!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

205 Republican Ottawa county commissioner has been unseated in Michigan

Ebel faced a recall vote after a was signed by some 3,000 people after she voted in favor of a motion to reverse Adeline Hambley's selection as the top health official in the county on February 28, 2023. Legal concerns had been raised about the motion.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:49 PM (RHGPo)

Sounds complicated, and probably not indicative of a Blue Surge or whatever the DUmmies are calling it.

Posted by: pookysgirl, beyond tired at May 09, 2024 04:55 PM (dtlDP)

206 The police said “Evidence suggests the bear at some point had made contact with the victim’s body.” I assume that means the guys liver was chewed up.

...

I think a lot of the horde are making sure they'll have the last laugh if a bear eats their liver.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2024 04:55 PM (z/ifB)

207 >>The police said “Evidence suggests the bear at some point had made contact with the victim’s body.” I assume that means the guys liver was chewed up.


Or, at least bruised.

Posted by: Leonardo DiCaprio at May 09, 2024 04:56 PM (vHu9s)

208 205 Sounds complicated, and probably not indicative of a Blue Surge or whatever the DUmmies are calling it.
Posted by: pookysgirl, beyond tired at May 09, 2024 04:55 PM (dtlDP)

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Special elections are not predictive. Never have been. This is not the moment they suddenly are.

I could probably pull out some special elections over the past few weeks that went the other way.

Special elections are about local organization and pretty much nothing else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 09, 2024 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

209 Wasn't she supposedly fucking Lewindowsky?

He's got a type. And it ain't well adjusted ladies.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2024 04:55 PM (vHu9s)

There's a joke about Michelle Fields not being well-balanced in here but I don't quite have it. Anyone want to help out an Ette?

Posted by: pookysgirl, beyond tired at May 09, 2024 04:57 PM (dtlDP)

210 Trump "lost" 2020 -- 306 to 232 EVs. Because Biden found a lot of ballots for his 81M votes, while campaigning from his basement. And I believe a lot of Trump votes were switched and dumped.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (Cus5s)

211 Does this nic make my butt look big?

Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (fQqaC)

212 Police suspect fair play.

Posted by: Dennis Miller at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (T4d5x)

213 The worse things look for Biden the Dems will start showing and doing desperate things. Give the incompetent ideologues in this administration WW III wouldn't be a surprise

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (5S+sK)

214 There's a joke about Michelle Fields not being well-balanced in here but I don't quite have it. Anyone want to help out an Ette?

Most people's center of gravity is up/down. Hers is left/right.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (CsUN+)

215 Biden losing all age groups! Historic shifts! Trump barely wins!

Posted by: Lies, Damned Lies, and Polls at May 09, 2024 04:59 PM (qUkBO)

216 Does this nic make my butt look big?
Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (fQqaC)

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Yeah, not going to fall for that one, I don't want spawn of Lin Duh coming for me.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 04:59 PM (tT6L1)

217 You're nic has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Husband remark at May 09, 2024 04:59 PM (T4d5x)

218 Stealing votes from who??

Brenden Dilley @WarlordDilley 1h
RFK Jr. just went full, Governor Ralph Northam in declaring that a woman should be able to abort (murder) a baby at full term.

The worms clearly ate more of his brain that he wants to admit.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 05:00 PM (ZdexC)

219 "That sounds familiar!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

yes, I should have footnoted you. ha

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2024 05:00 PM (Cus5s)

220 205 Republican Ottawa county commissioner has been unseated in Michigan

Hollanders follow what's going on in local gubment and know what day elections are held.

Good riddance to a wine box Karen GOPe.

Posted by: Auspex at May 09, 2024 05:00 PM (j4U/Z)

221 As said above Sundowner will have 100 million votes and think he is the most popular person in history

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 05:01 PM (fwDg9)

222 >>>Trump does better each week. That likely means there is a trend. It's not proof of one, but ...
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Duh,...

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:01 PM (lCWOD)

223 The worse things look for Biden the Dems will start showing and doing desperate things. Give the incompetent ideologues in this administration WW III wouldn't be a surprise

I keep hearing about all the things the Dems are doing to sway the election, e.g. filling the SPR, bribing college students with loan forgiveness, and licking the boots of the muzzies in MI. It is never clear why they would bother if all they need to do is up the cheat.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 05:01 PM (CsUN+)

224 "Votes." That's cute.

Posted by: Dominion Systems at May 09, 2024 05:01 PM (T4d5x)

225 >>The worms clearly ate more of his brain that he wants to admit.


Inbred and Wet Brained is no way to go through life, Son.

Posted by: Dean D. Wormer at May 09, 2024 05:01 PM (vHu9s)

226
So, what did you do about it?

Trump was screaming about it for a year, ever since the mass mail in ballots were started. He was in the news constantly talking about how it was a recipe to steal an election.

It was obvious they were going to try. It's one thing to know about it but it's something else to be able to stop 50 individual races in 50 states when your own party is helping sabatoge you.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:53 PM (LkLld)

Jack, I love ya, man, but sometimes you seem to miss the forest for the trees.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (dGCAG)

227 Margarita time!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (CsUN+)

228 @188

>>And they did.

Ahemm...

Again, polls are bullshit either way.

It's going to come down to what it always comes down to...

A few swing states and districts, who has the better GOTV, and surviving the fraud and malfeasance the Donks are going to unleash nationwide.

My prediction is that Trump wins the same states he won in 2016 and perhaps picks up Minnesota.

But the key is the fraud, he can't only win by the margin of fraud, he's got to win by the margin of fraud cubed.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 31, 2020 04:44 PM (OyBX/)

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (XV/Pl)

229 Yes Sir President Jill, Black swan coming right up!

Posted by: Deep State Dirk at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (26Lj9)

230 211 Does this nic make my butt look big?
Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 04:58 PM (fQqaC)

No no no… your nic is most becoming… flattering, actually…

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (PCK5/)

231 Red Wave!

Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (MvF+J)

232 I keep hearing about all the things the Dems are doing to sway the election, e.g. filling the SPR, bribing college students with loan forgiveness, and licking the boots of the muzzies in MI. It is never clear why they would bother if all they need to do is up the cheat.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2024 05:01 PM (CsUN+)
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They still need a tiny figleaf of credibility that they "won" fair and square by getting more people to vote for them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2024 05:02 PM (7fElN)

233
14 No. Looking at their own information, Biden had led with Hispanics by +14 and is now down to +7.
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Joe beaten inflation down to only 3%!
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC)
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Speaking of trends and sheep. After this election the Dems will lose Blacks and Hispanics for the next 50 years.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (lCWOD)

234 "The worse things look for Biden the Dems will start showing and doing desperate things."

You mean like bringing not one, not two, not three, but four bogus criminal prosecutions against the GOP Presidential candidate? Or throwing our staunchest ally under the bus to appease America-hating muslims in Michigan?

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (qUkBO)

235 So now I read that Kristi Noem’s book contains a completely made-up story of how she met Kim Jung-Un.

Her defense is "Hey, I just wrote it; I didn't read it!"

Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (/y8xj)

236 I like women with big nics, honey!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (ZdexC)

237 On other hand I witnessed Pa vote totals in 2020 and saw negative tallies multiple times for both contestants. They just take thousands of votes off Trump

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (fwDg9)

238 the SCOTUS merely said in Dobbs that Roe V Wade was not rooted in tradition or the Constitituion. The court is not there to create new rights .. that is for the Congress and states to do through the amendment process.
(notice how there has been no attempt to have an abortion amendment)

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:45 PM


obama had two solid years to do anything he wanted to do with a majority in the house and a super majority in the Senate. They could have had abortion on demand codified into federal law in less than a month if they wanted to. He chose to blow that political capitol on socialized health care.


It's all about priorities...

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (QNSds)

239 Cope is so flipping gay I couldn't watch it.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:04 PM (lCWOD)

240
You haven't taken into account the Arlen Spectre endorsement. That's significant.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 09, 2024 05:04 PM (r/fkm)

241 Special elections are about local organization and pretty much nothing else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. A few special elections (Scott Brown's comes to mind) might be important but unlike by elections in a parliamentary system, they don't have much predictive power for presidential races.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:05 PM (peJ7P)

242 Bad Hombre @joma_gc 2h
🚨Stormy Daniels testifies she cheated on her husband with the cameraman filming her documentary.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 05:05 PM (ZdexC)

243 Obama was a lazy-ass with bad ideas who could not be bothered with pushing abortion… socialized medicine was his one big thing… and even that was the work of his controllers.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2024 05:06 PM (PCK5/)

244 Why does Guy Benson sometimes have a beard and mustache and sometimes not?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2024 05:06 PM (63Dwl)

245 Andrew H. Giuliani @AndrewHGiuliani 2h
Stormy Daniels: I am not an attorney and I read this agreement quickly so I signed based on my attorney’s recommendations.

Trump D: But you signed this correct?

Stormy: Yes.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 05:07 PM (ZdexC)

246 obama had two solid years to do anything he wanted to do with a majority in the house and a super majority in the Senate. They could have had abortion on demand codified into federal law in less than a month if they wanted to. He chose to blow that political capitol on socialized health care.


It's all about priorities...
Posted by: Mister Scott
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The Dems in the Senate lost their supermajority when Scott Brown was elected in Feb. 2010. That probably prevented amnesty and a bunch of other unpleasantries that the Dems wanted to pass.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:07 PM (peJ7P)

247 244 Why does Guy Benson sometimes have a beard and mustache and sometimes not?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Depends on whose baton he is twirling.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:07 PM (peJ7P)

248 Even if they let Trump win, he still has to fight with congress to get anything done. Do you really think they'll give him any power? At best he's a place holder for a conservative that might be able to get something done the next election. At worse, he's a lame duck scapegoat for everything that has ever gone wrong in the history of the world.

Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 05:08 PM (fQqaC)

249 In order to cheat in all those states, they'll need to write up the fake ballots before the DNC. That means they'll be stuck with Biden in November.

Posted by: Roy at May 09, 2024 05:08 PM (z+ik4)

250 >>>223 The worse things look for Biden the Dems will start showing and doing desperate things. Give the incompetent ideologues in this administration WW III wouldn't be a surprise
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Yes, but the really greedy one's realize that after WWIII there will be nothing. They will stop the totally incompetent ideologues from committing suicide.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:08 PM (lCWOD)

251 The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee 21h
Dead Worm Found In RFK Jr.’s Brain Already Polling Higher Than Biden In 11 States
buff.ly/44z10kA

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 05:08 PM (ZdexC)

252 At worse, he's a lame duck scapegoat for everything that has ever gone wrong in the history of the world.
Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 05:08 PM


Biden in 2024 ? I'll take my chance with Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2024 05:09 PM (Akjoo)

253
So now I read that Kristi Noem’s book contains a completely made-up story of how she met Kim Jung-Un.

Her defense is "Hey, I just wrote it; I didn't read it!"
Posted by: Oddbob


She put a beatdown on Corn pop-Un.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2024 05:09 PM (63Dwl)

254 That one millennial point is my son who just moved there.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 09, 2024 05:09 PM (U8kCF)

255 🚨Stormy Daniels testifies she cheated on her husband with the cameraman filming her documentary.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC)
......

She sounds reliable.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2024 05:09 PM (v0R5T)

256 This idea is not original with me but don’t discount the possibility that TPTB see Brandon for the yuuge public relations disaster he is….. they can get rid of him by not dialing up the cheat to eleventy…. Trump wins. Yeah that’ll stick in their craw but they know how to use the fed bureaucracy to stall and obstruct; we had 4 years of that 2017-21. Biden and Kamala are so bad the “smart set” amongst the Dems realizes 4 more years of his drooling ruins their brand. So we might actually get a legit election this time around….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (xT8gx)

257 200 So now I read that Kristi Noem’s book contains a completely made-up story of how she met Kim Jung-Un.

Plus, she appears to have a metric shit-ton of plastic surgery.

Woman ain’t right in the head.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I've read several commenters here say she's hot. I disagree. Add in the "crazy/hot" matrix consideration, and she's a definite "pass". You're better off banging AOC.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (JCZqz)

258 210 Trump "lost" 2020 -- 306 to 232 EVs. Because Biden found a lot of ballots for his 81M votes, while campaigning from his basement. And I believe a lot of Trump votes were switched and dumped.
Posted by: illiniwek
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Mail in ballots make for fraud filled elections and that is why no other sane nation with elections does it that way.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (peJ7P)

259
What everyone is Forgetting is that biden was not supposed to run again. So what happened?

Well, it wasn't set in stone, but camela harris was supposed to run in '24. Unless she remained a fuckingdunce, which she did. She's so bad that they can't even get the Minimum 60 million votes for her and then cheat to put her over the top.

So, they were left with replacing biden, but with who (or whom?)? And the problem with this is they'd need to tell camela she's shit outta luck and her political "career" is over. This might not sit well with camela, and that's a big risk.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (r/fkm)

260 I'm looking forward to voting for Trump a third time, because (as always) "Fuck you, that's why."

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (w6EFb)

261 "I witnessed Pa vote totals in 2020 and saw negative tallies multiple times for both contestants. They just take thousands of votes off Trump"

It was even shown live on TV. I think they were in the machines switching vote total as they came in, then (often but not always) came up with the fake ballots later.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (Cus5s)

262 >>Even if they let Trump win, he still has to fight with congress to get anything done. Do you really think they'll give him any power?

Trump will just seize it from them, and then pounce. They are lame and incompetent and scared of alpha males.

Posted by: Roy at May 09, 2024 05:11 PM (z+ik4)

263 Yes, but the really greedy one's realize that after WWIII there will be nothing. They will stop the totally incompetent ideologues from committing suicide.
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LOL

Posted by: Amazon's Fallout writers at May 09, 2024 05:11 PM (Dnobf)

264 Biden in 2024 ? I'll take my chance with Trump
Posted by: It's me donna
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Don't get me wrong... I'll crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump again. I just feel like the establishment will hamstring him again. It's still much, much, 1000x better than the alternative.

Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 05:11 PM (fQqaC)

265 What everyone is Forgetting is that biden was not supposed to run again. So what happened?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (r/fkm)

You're one of the few people to point out that Biden RAN as a one-term preznit because he's old.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (w6EFb)

266 Why does Guy Benson sometimes have a beard and mustache and sometimes not?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2024 05:06 PM (63Dwl)

Don’t know but what’s certain is that guy is gayer than Joseph’s technicolor dreamcoat

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (xT8gx)

267 256 This idea is not original with me but don’t discount the possibility that TPTB see Brandon for the yuuge public relations disaster he is….. they can get rid of him by not dialing up the cheat to eleventy…. Trump wins. Yeah that’ll stick in their craw but they know how to use the fed bureaucracy to stall and obstruct; we had 4 years of that 2017-21. Biden and Kamala are so bad the “smart set” amongst the Dems realizes 4 more years of his drooling ruins their brand. So we might actually get a legit election this time around….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Anyone that can predict what will happen before, during, and aftermath of the election in November should place their bets in the market now.

The only bet I have down for fall is that it will be cold, wet, and last the rest of our lives in effects.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (peJ7P)

268 Having seen Ms. Daniels sans a lot of her clothing, all I can say is: That massive bruise of a tattoo is quite offputting.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (tT6L1)

269 You're one of the few people to point out that Biden RAN as a one-term preznit because he's old.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (w6EFb)

And now he's older

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (Akjoo)

270
How does a video sex worker, a.k.a. prostitute, NOT "cheat" on her "husband?"

It's all so fuckingstupid. She's a whore. The idea that her "marriage" is in the state of Fidelity is absurd and only a shithead would entertain the notion.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 09, 2024 05:12 PM (r/fkm)

271 they'd need to tell camela she's shit outta luck and her political "career" is over. This might not sit well with camela, and that's a big risk.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM (r/fkm)

*cackle cackle cackle cackle ca..* Wait... WHAT?

Posted by: Kamalama Ding Dong at May 09, 2024 05:13 PM (v0R5T)

272 trump can't be allowed to win, it would mean the end of democracy and civilization and letting experts decide everything.

jesus and john kerry weep for our country

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 09, 2024 05:13 PM (B1FKF)

273 Not sure about North Carolina.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2024 04:20 PM (d04cU)

_____________________________

I can help out with that. It was just reported yesterday that NC has well over 100k names on the voter rolls that are either dead, moved away, incarcerated etc.

Posted by: Orson at May 09, 2024 05:14 PM (dIske)

274 This idea is not original with me but don’t discount the possibility that TPTB see Brandon for the yuuge public relations disaster he is….. they can get rid of him by not dialing up the cheat to eleventy…. Trump wins. Yeah that’ll stick in their craw but they know how to use the fed bureaucracy to stall and obstruct; we had 4 years of that 2017-21. Biden and Kamala are so bad the “smart set” amongst the Dems realizes 4 more years of his drooling ruins their brand. So we might actually get a legit election this time around….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2024 05:10 PM


covid lockdowns let the democrats cheat on a scale never before seen. Sadly trump went ahead with the recommendations of the cdc and encouraged and supported the lockdowns.


No lockdowns this go around and I have $100 that says biden is not going to win.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2024 05:14 PM (QNSds)

275 538 has it at Trump +5.1, and RCP has it at Trump +4.5. So it's a Toss Up.

-----------------

This is like admitting that they can steal up to 5% of the vote. I say they are being modest, they can steal up to 25% and nobody would bat an eyelid.

I remember somebody in the long distant past said that the media automatically advantaged the Dems by 15% by simply reporting as they do. Now the vote fraud squad is adding another 10% and there you have it, Dems forever.

Posted by: Decaf at May 09, 2024 05:14 PM (unUNN)

276 Even if they let Trump win, he still has to fight with congress to get anything done. Do you really think they'll give him any power? At best he's a place holder for a conservative that might be able to get something done the next election. At worse, he's a lame duck scapegoat for everything that has ever gone wrong in the history of the world.
Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice)

He needs to sign on the teams that clean-up for the Clintons and Boeing.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 09, 2024 05:14 PM (cOq4q)

277 Time to add frequent polling of Virginia, Maine, and Minnesota to the "swing state" list. Maybe check new Jersey more frequently, also.

Posted by: Isophorone at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (42qwK)

278 The fraud is strong & deep in PA.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (3uc2w)

279 The dems have fucked their primary process up so badly that if Joe drops out, there's no one to nominate but Kamala. It's too late for anyone to edge her out of the way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (pbje+)

280 257 Noem used to be hot. But with all the plastic surgery she’s had she’s on the downward curve now.

That, and she’s crazy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (9yWhg)

281 255 🚨Stormy Daniels testifies she cheated on her husband with the cameraman filming her documentary.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC)
......

She sounds reliable.
Posted by: wth
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Went porn shopping for Stormy Daniels when this started last time.
She is a C list at best. There are literally thousands of women on the A list and tens of thousands on the B list. She is rank.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (lCWOD)

282 Could pornography be a major contributor to our lower birth rate?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (lCWOD)

283 266 Why does Guy Benson sometimes have a beard and mustache and sometimes not?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2024 05:06 PM (63Dwl)

Don’t know but what’s certain is that guy is gayer than Joseph’s technicolor dreamcoat
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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This is true and I have my suspicions about a lot of Conservative Media TM personalities. Not all of them are English.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (peJ7P)

284 Plus, she appears to have a metric shit-ton of plastic surgery.

Woman ain’t right in the head.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

She looked great just a few years ago...presumably before the surgery: https://tinyurl.com/2usxhhe3

Maybe just lack of confidence due to aging, advice from campaign managers looking to higher office and an increased media profile? Sad really.

Posted by: Trap spelled normally is still trap at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (JCZqz)

285 Can we all agree that no one knows for sure how the election will turn out?

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (PCK5/)

286 Biden has to have an incident so they can replace him. I just hope it is a fake health incident, and they don't pull a JFK on him.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at May 09, 2024 05:16 PM (wGerL)

287 What about the ballot harvesting?
The Republican version as seen in Virginia appears to be get some Republicans to vote by mail, ignoring that for Democrats it is about casting ballots. You have to pick up their ballots too.

Posted by: MikeN at May 09, 2024 05:16 PM (XygMV)

288 Went porn shopping for Stormy Daniels when this started last time.
She is a C list at best. There are literally thousands of women on the A list and tens of thousands on the B list. She is rank.
Posted by: Braenyard
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The Grinch song comes to mind;
"Stink, Stank, Stunk!"

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:16 PM (peJ7P)

289 280 257 Noem used to be hot. But with all the plastic surgery she’s had she’s on the downward curve now.

That, and she’s crazy.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Plastic surgery is a signal that 'you are of the body'.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (lCWOD)

290 They were ALWAYS going to stick with Biden. Getting rid of him was always neverending fantasy but some people are too consumed with their own opinions to catch on. On the same note, they're not getting rid of Kamala either.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (lX8VI)

291 Many older White men (especially retirees) in PA benefited from: WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden's administration on Thursday announced the infusion of nearly $36 billion to shore up a financially troubled union pension plan, preventing severe cuts to the retirement incomes of about 350,000 Teamster workers and retirees across the United States.Dec 8, 2022.

(And the securing - at least during their lifetimes - other pension systems, too.) However, as they lose access to timely medical care, their taxes soar, and their families face more 'new' issues, that'll change, but will it be too late?

Posted by: L - If you do it with them, they'll do it to you, too at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (NFX2v)

292 re 270: the technical term is "pimp"

or gigolo

or former male porn actor

or soy boy

or hillary

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (B1FKF)

293 nood


Fatsos

Posted by: banana Dream at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (Y6IkP)

294 282 Could pornography be a major contributor to our lower birth rate?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 09, 2024 05:15 PM (lCWOD)

Well, that and soy, and divorce laws, and the public school system, and….

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (PCK5/)

295 obama had two solid years to do anything he wanted to do with a majority in the house and a super majority in the Senate. They could have had abortion on demand codified into federal law in less than a month if they wanted to. He chose to blow that political capitol on socialized health care.

It's all about priorities...

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2024 05:03 PM (QNSds)

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They can kill a lot more deplorables with socialized healthcare than abortion.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 09, 2024 05:17 PM (XsvC5)

296 I hope Trump has a FU attitude and the fortitude to follow through this time. If a general tells him no, strip him of his rank. If Congress won't push through his agenda, do it anyways. If the Courts issues an injunction, ignore it. Play Calvin Ball like the left for once...

F*ck You, WAR!!!!
- some dead white guy

Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's(willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 09, 2024 05:19 PM (fQqaC)

297 want 2024 to be the year that the Republican Party finally starts getting its act together regarding cheating.

Evidence to give one hope or just faith? I see little evidence of action and I have zero faith in corporate GOPe.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * more curious than George at May 09, 2024 05:19 PM (i7KoL)

298 How does a video sex worker, a.k.a. prostitute, NOT "cheat" on her "husband?"

By not getting paid?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2024 05:19 PM (/y8xj)

299 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 09, 2024 05:19 PM (ZdexC)

300
The theft of the election was simple:
Blank ballots + Voting machines + Unsupervised Democrat poll workers = Millions of fraudulent "votes" for biden.

Trump's tally was likely correct.

Democrats CANNOT be trusted with blank ballots and voting machines.

Why do you think there was such a battle to check ballots and voter rolls? Why do you think poll watchers were being thrown out of the polls?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 09, 2024 05:20 PM (r/fkm)

301 285 Can we all agree that no one knows for sure how the election will turn out?
Posted by: tubal
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Good luck with that one. It has never happened at AOS in any particular election except mebbe 2008 because it was obvious that McCain and the GOP craved to lose that one. GOPe shivving Palin for daring to make the race briefly competitive was just the cherry on top of that shit sunday.

Pualie Ryan did the same for the GOP in the House and Mitch the Bitch has thrown a lot of winnable Senate races since 2010 because he did not like the cut of a lot of candidate's jib. Yet he always props up dried up and coked up Murcow and her weak sister, Susan Collins with megabucks.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2024 05:21 PM (peJ7P)

302
Biden has to have an incident so they can replace him. I just hope it is a fake health incident, and they don't pull a JFK on him.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024


When the worm turns.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2024 05:22 PM (63Dwl)

303 They give Sundowner a offer he can refuse and he bows out

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 05:25 PM (fwDg9)

304 There's a joke about Michelle Fields not being well-balanced in here but I don't quite have it. Anyone want to help out an Ette?

She likes a man with a disarming smile.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 09, 2024 05:28 PM (dZVON)

305 Vice President Harris in a new interview expressed concern that the Supreme Court and its conservative majority could “undo recognized rights” after its 2022 ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade.
________________

Now do the Dred Scott decision.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 09, 2024 05:30 PM (YqDXo)

306 And NO OBSERVER gets "sent home" at midnight, while counts continue on. They'd have to get their State Police to take me out cuffed, and the hell raising would have only begun.

Yes, OBSERVERS need to be willing to suffer arrest, as THAT is true "harm" for the subsequent lawsuits. They'd have standing, too.

Counting Ballots. Ain't for sissies, anymore.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (e6UQI)

Two days before the election, using burner phones with DC area codes, call up all the known (and suspected) implementers of The Steal, and say, "hey, Bucky, word just came down from the DNC. The Steal is off. Hear me? The steal is off. Things are going to get so bad in the next month or two, that we want Trump elected so he can be blamed for it. If Biden wins, he will be the fall guy, and he, and a whole lot of us, will be going to the gallows. So play it straight: The Steal is off. Let Trump win fair and square, and he gets to carry the can. DNC out." (click)

Same message to hundreds or thousands of the Donk apparatchiks poised to carry out The Steal. So some go public, or call the cops. What can they do? The burner phones are shredded.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2024 05:31 PM (8zz6B)

307 Or might just YOLO it and say "What are you going to do about it!?" to the rest of the country.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2024 04:23 PM (N1tpc)
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They also might be starting to realize that the red states are starting to just say no to federal authority - and realizing that in reality the feds have limited responses they can use to force compliance. We aren't talking about forcing the south to allow black students to go to school.

We are talking about say letting a mentally ill boy bash your daughter's face in on some playing field or court. It doesn't have the same ummph the former has.

And now Trump can focus all his legal efforts on NY, where everyone knows nothing will stick, and where the upper courts are waiting for an opportunity to declare a mistrial and throw it all out. The document and Georgia cases are finished.

Maybe the dem power brokers are making a deal with the GOP power brokers saying we will let Trump win, and he can spank around these people - the rest of the stuff stays and he is term limited anyone.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 09, 2024 05:33 PM (GZYu7)

308 The neat part is remembering that Trump is in a courtroom and barred from actively campaigning AND is being slapped with fines and penalties for speaking out about the injustices, with the threat of jail a very real thing.

And normal people support him.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 09, 2024 04:24 PM (yqqF2)
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His campaign manager needs to remember this for when the Donald can talk.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 09, 2024 05:34 PM (GZYu7)

309 Willowed again

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2024 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

310 New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan has got to be taking blowback from his trial in NYC of Trump.

At this moment, Judge Merchan is the gating factor between Trump winning in November and the Republicans walking all over the Democrats in November. The judge has to walk softly.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2024 04:30 PM (RHGPo)
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He's going to get spun so hard by the fed courts after this that he will probably retire. But he will have done his duty.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 09, 2024 05:40 PM (GZYu7)

311 I look forward to Trump getting the most votes ever for a challenger...and losing to Biden's 100M totally real vote count that isn't fraudulent
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2024 04:36 PM (ibTVg)

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We should start a book to see who will get the closest to Biden's vote "count".

Posted by: Decaf at May 09, 2024 05:45 PM (unUNN)

312 You think a bunch of morons on a blog know more about the stolen election than the guy who had the election stolen from him?

Seems unlikely.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 09, 2024 04:47 PM (LkLld)
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No. We don't. For the most part.

But people who do know and have commented elsewhere have said he didn't do squat to really help himself.

SO - no I don't think he knows how to do it, unless he is willing to listen to someone he does know and open up the checkbook.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 09, 2024 05:51 PM (GZYu7)

313 Meh. Trump was up more than 700,000 in Pennsylvania before they stopped counting.

And then, poof! Three hours later Biden was up.

Polls don't mean shit if the fraud isn't fixed. And it hasn't been fixed.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at May 09, 2024 05:54 PM (Qt4kF)

314 Wasn't Fatso Softcock a character in From Here to Eternity?

Posted by: Mishdog at May 09, 2024 06:05 PM (dSDpc)

315 I identify as an individual. I wish we could stop pigeonholing people, but this is America, where individuality is frowned upon.

(Plus, absurdly, no one can make up their mind if I am Gen X or not, so fuck everyone on that topic anyway.)

Let's hold the election anyway to double check if the poll is right.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2024 09:22 PM (8sMut)

316 It does not matter if Trump wins the Electoral College. The Dems are planning on taking the House and they will not certify the election. Bank on it.

Posted by: Robin Banks at May 09, 2024 10:58 PM (cgks5)

317 Don't worry Biden will carry the undead vote, the illegal vote, the Hamas vote, the zombie vote.

Posted by: Fred at May 10, 2024 01:18 AM (bXvrr)

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