Disney's Value Plunges $20 Billon After Iger's Earnings (Losings) Report

The Disney shills at CNN have to admit: Disney stock just had its worst day in eighteen months.

Even though Iger claims, through recherché numerical manipulations unknown outside of Bistromath*, that Disney Minus is now profitable, the rest of the news was so bad that Disney's share price dropped 10% and its overall market cap fell by $20 billion.

Walt Disney's (DIS.N) surprise profit in its streaming entertainment division was eclipsed by a drop in its traditional TV business and weaker box office, sending its stock tumbling 10%, on track for its deepest one-day drop in 17 months.
Like other media companies, Disney has been trying to adapt to consumer migration from cable television to streaming entertainment, and had promised Wall Street that its streaming operation would become profitable by September.
The division has been losing money since Disney+ debuted in 2019 in a major push by the company to compete with Netflix.
However, revenue from the traditional television business declined 8% to $2.77 billion and operating profit fell 22% from a year ago.

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"The initial market reaction is showing that there are more questions than answers for earnings over the next couple of quarters," said Brian Mulberry, client portfolio manager at Zacks Investment Management.
The direct-to-consumer entertainment division, which includes the Disney+ and Hulu streaming services, reported operating income of $47 million for the January-March period, compared with a loss of $587 million a year earlier.

I imagine Hulu is responsible for almost all of the increase.

By the way, the Hulu deal is going to cost them more than they want to pay. I think their own banker -- who is paid to do their bidding -- offered a laughably low estimation of Hulu's value. Comcat's banker figured a 1/3 stake in Hulu is worth $40 billion plus. The matter will go to a third bank to figure out whose valuation, the ballpark accurate one or Disney's, is correct.

Valliant Renegade noted that Bob Iger, uncharacteristically, stayed a long time to answer (or "answer") questions. His surmise is that Disney's big investors called Iger and told them they wanted some answers.

However, his answers -- "answers" -- seem to not have appeased the investors. Probably because while he was technically "answering questions," what he was actually doing was filibustering to avoid actually answer difficult questions.

Midnight's Edge has an example of this -- a questioner wanted to know what Iger was doing to get Star Wars and Marvel producing money again, and Iger filibustered for five minutes blabbing about how pleased he was with ESPN's performance, before then listing a handful of upcoming movies he claims he has "confidence" in. Then he repeated his bullshit that all Star Wars and Marvel need to rehabilitate themselves is fewer projects with a focus on "quality." Listen starting at around 8:00 for that.

So the investors, having told Disney they wanted some reassurance, got none of it at the question and "answer" session, and Disney's shares dropped.

The news that Disney's shill corporate partners want to push is that everything is good now that Marvel is producing fewer movies and Star Wars is producing none at all.

Disney will release no more than three Marvel films and up to two Disney+ shows each year going forward as it works to place more focus on quality output.
The announcement by CEO Bob Iger comes as Disney shares plunged 8% in Tuesday trading following the release of the entertainment giant's quarterly earnings. ...

"I've been working hard with the studio to reduce output and focus more on quality," Iger said on the company's earnings call Tuesday.

Disney produce 4 of the 5 biggest money-losing flops of 2023. The only non-Disney megaflop on the list was WB's doomed Flash movie. The others were The Marvels, Indiana Jones and the Annoying Mary-Sue, Wish, and The Haunted Mansion. Ant-Man: Quantumania also lost money, but, thanks to applying the Bistromath operation known as the Finageler's Constant, it supposedly only lost $38 million.

Sure, Jan.

Oh, and Bob Iger lied in his last disclosure to Con the Rubes into keeping him in the CEO's office.

Now that Disney management has won its proxy battle with activist investor Nelson Peltz, let's take a look at the Big Lie the company told to help keep shareholders on management's side.
Last month, the Mouse House released a detailed, 67-page report for investors "singing the praises of its chief executive Bob Iger in a bid to convince stockholders to side with him in a battle with activist investors," as Forbes' Caroline Reid put it. I included the link because Reid did in her write-up, but the PDF file is no longer there, perhaps flushed down the memory hole.
Reid's article is a bit technical but the upshot is that when calculating the studio's return on investment for franchises like The Avengers and Star Wars, Disney didn't factor in the multibillion-dollar acquisition costs of buying Marvel and Lucasfilm.
"Calculating ROI on revenue rather than profit ignores the costs so artificially inflates the result," Reid explained. Well, yes. It's really easy to show a profit when you include revenues but conveniently leave out major expenses.
Reid concluded that "Disney hasn't misled investors as the methodology is in the fine print." But the methodology itself is a scam, a way to calculate returns on investment that no reputable firm would ever use. The Avengers movies made boatloads of money (at least until recent years) but Star Wars is probably still in the red -- despite what Disney told investors.
The board won its proxy battle against Peltz, so I guess it was all worth it.

During his terrible earnings report, Bob Iger highlighted Disney's slate of films coming in 2024 and 2025. For some reason he omitted mentioning the Rachel Ziegler disaster-in-the-making Snow White.

Has it been Quiet Cancelled? Or are they planning to release it on Disney Minus, so they can charge the film's losses against Disney Minus, and not against the film division? It may seem like six of one half a dozen of the other but everyone expects Disney Plus to be a permanent loss anyway.

Alan Ng reviewed the Disney Minus show "Tales of the Empire." He said that last season's show featured ten episodes about women in the Star Wars universe solving women's problems with women's wisdom, and this new series offers six episodes of women fixing the galaxy with stronk and brave womanhood.

I don't know if he's counting the They/Thems as women. This is a real scene from the new season, in which bad guys -- I assume -- cut down a They/Them and debate "letting Them die."

Even though they're killing this pyrsyn, they sure don't want to misgender Them!

Gotta love how the villains will stab someone in the back, but respect their pronoun choices. https://t.co/wNZbiYdN2z
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) May 6, 2024

WDW_Pro has some news: he has it from multiple sources who are in a position to know that Disney is finally admitting -- well, admitting internally -- that the push to turn Star Wars and Marvel into female-focused girl brands is a disaster. He says that when Marvel was still profitable, Disney shrugged off the collapse of Girl Star Wars, telling themselves: "Well, Marvel's still bringing in money. If we take both studios together, we're still grinding out a profit."

But since Marvel has also collapsed, Disney cannot reassure itself that all is well. Now they're forced to confront the fact, that they had long pretended away, that Star Wars is dead, and the M-She-U is almost dead.

WDW_Pro said he has not heard anything about Kathleen "Kockroach" Kennedy being fired, but Disney now accepts they will have to retool both studios to make them entertainment studios, not Unceasing Feminist Propaganda and Morality Plays studios.

But here's the even better news: This won't work, and both brands are DEAD and not coming back.

The magic of both Star Wars -- pre-1990 -- and Marvel was that they took something that was inherently childish and silly and gave both a small dose of plasubility. So that even though viewers know that watching very expensive Juvenile Boy Power Fantasies is pretty dumb and indulgent and that the whole premise of the movies they're watching is just dumb, pre-1990 Star Wars and pre-2020 Marvel made their silly boys' adventure stories just barely on the right side of the plausibility (not to mention "coolness") line, allowing people to actually buy into these fantasies and have a great time with them.

But since the prequels and certainly since the Disney sequels, Star Wars is just stupid and, as the kids used to say, "gay." All of it's coolness -- it never had much coolness, just enough to cross the line so that you didn't feel uncool for liking Star Wars -- is now gone.

The same for Marvel.

This kind of magic is like a soap bubble -- it's delicate and easily popped.

And there is no way to put a soap bubble back together after it's popped. The terribleness of Star Wars and Marvel is now making everyone reevaluate what they found so charming in the pre-terribleness franchises -- were they always this uncool? This stupid? This preachy? This gay?

It reminds me of Members Only jackets. Not that I remember them. I'm not even 29 years old yet. But I've heard tales.

I've heard that Members Only jackets were ubiquitous for a couple of years in the 1980s. Men -- well, very young men, like middle schoolers to 23 year olds -- bought those Members Only jackets and wore them around and thought the were so cool. And other people seemed to think they were cool too, because no one laughed at the guys wearing them.

Until they did. Until Members Only jackets suddenly became the lamest, cheesiest, stupidest, gayest things a guy could wear.

And I'm sure Members Only tried to "retool the brand," maybe "focusing on quality." Trying to put the soap bubble back together.

But they didn't. Because one a soap bubble is gone, it's gone forever.

Huh, according to that, there's been a nostalgic revival of the brand.

So I guess Disney only has to wait 30-40 years before a much-smaller form of the soap bubble can be reconstructed.

* Per the Hitchhiker guide series, Bistromath is an exotic branch of mathematics based on the fact that waiters in bistros enter different numbers on checks than what the menu specifies. It's an area of math based entirely on human imagination and the reality-bending power of grift.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:18 PM

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1 first?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 08, 2024 04:18 PM (J2vNu)

2 But Disney+ turned a profit for the first time!

Through accounting tricks!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

3 >>>2 But Disney+ turned a profit for the first time!

Streaming supposedly turned a profit, which includes Hulu, which has always made some money.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (KRtlO)

4 Has it been Quiet Cancelled? Or are they planning to release it on Disney Minus, so they can charge the film's losses against Disney Minus, and not against the film division? It may seem like six of one half a dozen of the other but everyone expects Disney Plus to be a permanent loss anyway.

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I assume it's getting so massively redone that they have no idea when it's getting released.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

5 If Disney's streaming made money, that's because they stopped making Disney Minus TV shows.

But how long can this "produce nothing and just collect checks for producing nothing" strategy work?

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (KRtlO)

6 3 >>>2 But Disney+ turned a profit for the first time!

Streaming supposedly turned a profit, which includes Hulu, which has always made some money.
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (KRtlO)

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I loved Iger taking credit for Shogun, which was produced well before Disney took control of Hulu.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

7 WDW_Pro has some news: he has it from multiple sources who are in a position to know that Disney is finally admitting -- well, admitting internally -- that the push to turn Star Wars and Marvel into female-focused girl brands is a disaster. He says that when Marvel was still profitable, Disney shrugged off the collapse of Girl Star Wars, telling themselves: "Well, Marvel's still bringing in money. If we take both studios together, we're still grinding out a profit."

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Boys don't like Star Wars. Never have. It was always girls wishing Luke was a girl.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

8 5 If Disney's streaming made money, that's because they stopped making Disney Minus TV shows.

But how long can this "produce nothing and just collect checks for producing nothing" strategy work?
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (KRtlO)

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They cut costs and increased prices.

Not a long term strategy at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

9 >>>
I loved Iger taking credit for Shogun, which was produced well before Disney took control of Hulu.

well all he knows how to do is buy successful operations for ludicrously overlarge costs (and then destroy them).

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

10 Derp, derp, derp:

@IsraelWarRoom
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6m
#BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

11 I don't know diddle about corporate earnings/finance, but if some dude cost me 20 billion, I'd take it personally.

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (AwYPR)

12 9 >>>
I loved Iger taking credit for Shogun, which was produced well before Disney took control of Hulu.

well all he knows how to do is buy successful operations for ludicrously overlarge costs (and then destroy them).
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

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"Shogun 2: This time gay and lame"
-2027

Bank on it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

13 >>>
@IsraelWarRoom
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6m
#BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza.

I had absolutely no idea the Palestinians would (inevitably) do this!

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (KRtlO)

14 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Nelson Peltz at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (827rY)

15 Even though Iger claims, through recherché numerical manipulations unknown outside of Bistromath*
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Deep cut, Ace. I haven't seen that particular reference maybe anywhere else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (HnUIn)

16 Streaming supposedly turned a profit, which includes Hulu, which has always made some money.
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (KRtlO)

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I was doing a rewatch of Community on Hulu, and they yanked it last week. F*ckers.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (DRSnL)

17
Trash post, would not recommend to a friend.

Posted by: The Members Only Fashion Club at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (KRtlO)

18 Good. More Please.

I point and laugh.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (4a+k3)

19 $20 billion? They will make it up in volume, or the federal government will come in and bail them out under the cowboy poetry clause of the constitution.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (QNSds)

20 Iger filibustered for five minutes blabbing about how pleased he was with ESPN's performance, before then listing a handful of upcoming movies he claims he has "confidence" in.

OK Bob, name three of those upcoming movies in which you have confidence. If they don't make big bucks, you're out on your ass. Do we have a deal?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (CsUN+)

21 The mouse needs to die.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (R4t5M)

22 I have to make a confession:

I started Andor. It's surprisingly good.

It just took about 2 years and RLM finally recommending it for me to get around to it.

I remember when the idea of reams of Star Wars content would have excited the shit out of me. I was 15. I was also a boy, and not a girl. Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

23 In electronics, they often refer to the "magic smoke" that comes out of an integrated circuit package. Once it is out, the magic is gone with the smoke.

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (RHGPo)

24 Hamas intentionally causing a humanitarian crisis be destroying the US made pier?

I did not see that coming!!

Posted by: Nelson Peltz at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (827rY)

25 Posted by: Nelson Peltz

That guy who has the derisive laugh on The Simpsons?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (9yWhg)

26 Walt Disney's (DIS.N) surprise profit in its streaming entertainment division
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The wonders of creative accounting, most likely. They should put their accountants in charge of generating new movie ideas.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

27 16 I was doing a rewatch of Community on Hulu, and they yanked it last week. F*ckers.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (DRSnL)

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It's on Peacock now. Produced by NBC, it was only licensed to HULU.

I own the DVDs of the first three seasons, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

28 >>By the way, the Hulu deal is going to cost them more than they want to pay. I think their own banker -- who is paid to do their bidding -- offered a laughably low estimation of Hulu's value. Comcat's banker figured a 1/3 stake in Hulu is worth $40 billion plus.

Was that estimation run by Latitia James and Judge Engoron, did they approve that?

Also, was it recorded and documented properly?

I hear this is all a big deal.

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (XV/Pl)

29 The direct-to-consumer entertainment division, which includes the Disney+ and Hulu streaming services, reported operating income of $47 million for the January-March period, compared with a loss of $587 million a year earlier.
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Yeah, buying a profitable business and bolting it on to an unprofitable division can have that effect.

But even Disney says it won't last, and they'll be back into losses in no time at all.

The amount of sunk cost in D+ is staggering. Even if it becomes solidly profitable, it is going to take many years before Disney recoups its capital. The opportunity costs are breathtaking.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (HnUIn)

30 >>>I was doing a rewatch of Community on Hulu, and they yanked it last week. F*ckers.

the dvds are worth it. I did subscribe ot Hulu mostly forCommunity, though. (I'm lazy and thought I could boost their value and hurt Disney.)

So I need to cancel that. I guess right now I'm pretending I'll someday watch Shogun.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (KRtlO)

31 He said that last season's show featured ten episodes about women in the Star Wars universe solving women's problems with women's wisdom,

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wut ?

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (V13WU)

32 I know Fox News stinks now. But Rupert Murdoch conned Iger. He totally cashed out of movies and other revenue pits all at Disney’s expense. Its almost as if he knew….

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (7PziG)

33 btw, I keep hearing Lucas is coming back to direct something starwars for Lucasfilm...

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (V13WU)

34 WDW_Pro said he has not heard anything about Kathleen "Kockroach" Kennedy being fired

Maybe after the last 75 times of reporting that Kathleen Kennedy was definitely being fired he feels a little burned?

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (xhfG9)

35 Bob Iger?

It's pronounced "I-gore."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (9yWhg)

36 ... a questioner wanted to know what Iger was doing to get Star Wars and Marvel producing money again, and Iger filibustered for five minutes blabbing about how pleased he was with ESPN's performance, before then listing a handful of upcoming movies he claims he has "confidence" in.
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Well, he *is* a politican.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (HnUIn)

37 Not misgendering someone they just killed?
Priceless

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (827rY)

38 So I need to cancel that. I guess right now I'm pretending I'll someday watch Shogun.

You really, really should. The Japanese heroine is absolutely smoking. She has a perfect nose.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (CsUN+)

39 Fox also bought Tubi, which I think has nearly as many viewers as Disney Minus. It was a cheap buy and it is profitable.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (KRtlO)

40 btw, I keep hearing Lucas is coming back to direct something starwars for Lucasfilm...
Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (V13WU)

That doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (XPM1I)

41 It's just a flesh would.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (63Dwl)

42 @12 "Shogun 2: This time gay and lame"
-2027

Bank on it.

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"And has African-American samurai."

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (/9Tks)

43 "I've been working hard with the studio to reduce output and focus more on quality," Iger said on the company's earnings call Tuesday.
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It doesn't show.

You can say that word - "quality" - all you want, but it doesn't make a lick of difference if you don't have anyone who actually knows what it means.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (HnUIn)

44 33 btw, I keep hearing Lucas is coming back to direct something starwars for Lucasfilm...
Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (V13WU)

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He backed Iger for a reason. To make more Star Wars?

I dunno.

I just know that he's never made the little independent movies he said he always wanted to make. His friend, Francis Ford Coppola, on the other hand, sold his winery to fund a $100 million indie film, Megalopolis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jwmeJq8384

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

45 It's on Peacock now. Produced by NBC, it was only licensed to HULU.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

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I may or may not be using my sister's Peacock login to watch the rest.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (DRSnL)

46 Iger filibustered for five minutes blabbing about how pleased he was with ESPN's performance, before then listing a handful of upcoming movies he claims he has "confidence" in.

Other than actual games, espn has become pretty much unwatchable.

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (AwYPR)

47 recherché??

* looks for French dictionary in the bookcase *

* realizes that I don't have one*

Posted by: dantesed at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (MwQsd)

48 45 It's on Peacock now. Produced by NBC, it was only licensed to HULU.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

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I may or may not be using my sister's Peacock login to watch the rest.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (DRSnL)

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Also, the movie may end up happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

49 Gotta love how the villains will stab someone in the back, but respect their pronoun choices.

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Speaking of villains, Governor Jerry the Fairy of Colorado has enacted a law that teachers must use the students' ~~preferred~~ pretend pronouns.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (L/fGl)

50 33 btw, I keep hearing Lucas is coming back to direct something starwars for Lucasfilm...
Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (V13WU)

Carnac the Magnificent: What's worse than having Star Wars without George Lucas?

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (xhfG9)

51 Lucas is what- 85? 90?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (R4t5M)

52 But here's the even better news: This won't work, and both brands are DEAD and not coming back.
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Probably, yes. It's possible - distantly - that Marvel could be saved. I don't think Star Wars can. Not this generation. In fifteen years, with skilled people at the helm? Maybe, but only maybe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (HnUIn)

53 @22

>>I remember when the idea of reams of Star Wars content would have excited the shit out of me. I was 15. I was also a boy, and not a girl. Weird.

I thought Star Wars was unkillable, I was wrong.

Although there have been a number of recent Star Wars Video Games that pretty awesome like Jedi Survivor, so we might want to add a caveat.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (XV/Pl)

54 i hate NBC but Peacock has The Office, Monk, and Psych, and I guess community now.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (KRtlO)

55 In the new remake of "The Iger Sanction", Clint Eastwood, hobbling on his walker, kills, maims and otherwise disembowels Miles Mellough (played by Bob Iger) and the rest of the Disney board of directors.

Posted by: Dragon at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (vcOmj)

56 Let's not forget the dark storm on the horizon - the debt laden donkey that is ESPN. NBA down. Almost no share of NFL. College football in chaos and ACC on the verge of demotion or collapse, ESPN's portfolio is shrinking (though they did win a no-bid extension for the playoffs).

The multi year, multi billion dollar contracts are a bubble just waiting to burst, mostly due to all the poison that Dusney itself has injected into sports programming.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (hCzfy)

57 Hollywood accounting makes bistromath look like pre-algebra.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (7fElN)

58 Did Members Only jackets fall out of favor because they were everywhere -- they became nowhere near as exclusive as their name implied? Or was it just the fickleness of the American consumer?

I had one, not in the leather, in gray I think. It wasn't very warm even in mildly cool temps, and wasn't very waterproof, so it was hardly protection against the elements.

They were sort of sharp-looking though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (J2vNu)

59 There is a scene in Shallow Hal
"Is that a Members Only jacket?"
"Yes it is"
"You must be the last member"

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (FQmDC)

60 @34 Maybe after the last 75 times of reporting that Kathleen Kennedy was definitely being fired he feels a little burned?

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Isn't that Doomc@@k at Overlord that's constantly reporting that she's about to be fired?

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (/9Tks)

61 "And has African-American samurai."
Posted by: junior

Actually, there was some black guy who was some grade of warrior in Japan. Some henchman of a samurai, I think. Brought there by the Portugees.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (9yWhg)

62 “Recherché.” Made me look it up. And worth it.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (as3uC)

63 Die Mouse Die 🐁 🔪

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (fwDg9)

64 53 Although there have been a number of recent Star Wars Video Games that pretty awesome like Jedi Survivor, so we might want to add a caveat.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (XV/Pl)

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I played through Jedi Outcast. Fun soulslike for babies. I look forward to getting Jedi Survivor...on sale...the entire thing with DLC (I assume there is)...for $10.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

65 Also, the movie may end up happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

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It's listed on all the main cast's IMDB pages. Except Chevy Chase, of course.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (DRSnL)

66 He backed Iger for a reason. To make more Star Wars?

I dunno.

I just know that he's never made the little independent movies he said he always wanted to make. His friend, Francis Ford Coppola, on the other hand, sold his winery to fund a $100 million indie film, Megalopolis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jwmeJq8384
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

1) re - Lucas ..could beeee....
2) Megapolis features TWO Star Wars alumni - Driver and Giancarlo Esposito.
Maybe a dis....

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (V13WU)

67 I would laugh and laugh if the Palis blow up our 'humanitarian" pier

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (FQmDC)

68 I've been watching Monk, but not the top episodes I've rewatched five times. Instead i'm watching the lesser episodes I don't remember much about.

They're still pretty good.

I did re-watch Mr. Monk is Up All Night which has always been a top episode but I never rewatched it.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

69 Do you know what is funny?
My phone knew what to write

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (fwDg9)

70 He said that last season's show featured ten episodes about women in the Star Wars universe solving women's problems with women's wisdom,
______________

Female problems?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

71 13 >>>
@IsraelWarRoom
·
6m
#BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza.

I had absolutely no idea the Palestinians would (inevitably) do this!

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024

You know what we need around this place? A fainting couch.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (p4NUW)

72 And there is no way to put a soap bubble back together after it's popped. The terribleness of Star Wars and Marvel is now making everyone reevaluate what they found so charming in the pre-terribleness franchises -- were they always this uncool? This stupid? This preachy? This gay?
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Short answer: no.

Longer answer: but they have been for longer than people realized.

What became the first phase of the MCU starting with "Iron Man" was good. These mega-franchises always branch off of something real. But a lot of people probably do realize that "Marvel sucks now" is more realistically, "Marvel has sucked for a while longer than I initially thought."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (HnUIn)

73 We need to refer Disney to the prosecutor in NY, since they are so fond of inventing offenses.

Posted by: Introverted Elephocentric Hypochondriac at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (tVy6t)

74 * looks for French dictionary in the bookcase *

* realizes that I don't have one*
Posted by: dantesed

The French keep all their good dictionaries in the brothel libraries.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (9yWhg)

75 >>>62 “Recherché.” Made me look it up. And worth it.

It's a good word, I've always wanted to use it.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

76 Isn't that Doomc@@k at Overlord that's constantly reporting that she's about to be fired?
Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (/9Tks)

They all look alike to me.

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (xhfG9)

77 it's a french word but it should be in an english dictionary, it's part of our language too.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

78 The movies from the thirties and forties had much better writing and only took a few weeks to produce. Still fun to watch today.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (iNp3L)

79 "The board won its proxy battle against Peltz, so I guess it was all worth it."

Nelson Peltz' Trian Partners made anywhere between $300 million and $1 billion on its DIS proxy battle. They are long gone from this mess and have moved on to other matters.

It was all worth it for someone, that's for sure.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (3Hm/H)

80 72 What became the first phase of the MCU starting with "Iron Man" was good. These mega-franchises always branch off of something real. But a lot of people probably do realize that "Marvel sucks now" is more realistically, "Marvel has sucked for a while longer than I initially thought."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (HnUIn)

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Planet of the Apes descended into stupidity with Battle. It went into hibernation, came back with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and we're now 3 movies later.

It can happen, but there needs to be a cooling off period.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

81 @38 You really, really should. The Japanese heroine is absolutely smoking. She has a perfect nose.

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They also reportedly stuck fairly close to the book.

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (/9Tks)

82 78 The movies from the thirties and forties had much better writing and only took a few weeks to produce. Still fun to watch today.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (iNp3L)

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Just got Ninotchka in the mail today.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

83 Until they did. Until Members Only jackets suddenly became the lamest, cheesiest, stupidest, gayest things a guy could wear.

And I'm sure Members Only tried to "retool the brand," maybe "focusing on quality." Trying to put the soap bubble back together.
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At least Members Only didn't wreck a prior brand. They had their moment in the sun and then faded out.

Smart brands like Carhartt (which was briefly in short supply *everywhere* because the hipsters discovered it) look at this kind of bump and say, "it's a fad. It won't last. Stick to our core customers. These hipsters will leave and we pivot the company to cater to them, we're dead." Carhartt is still around. Many, many others are not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)

84 @64

>>I played through Jedi Outcast. Fun soulslike for babies. I look forward to getting Jedi Survivor...on sale...the entire thing with DLC (I assume there is)...for $10.

EA just had a sale on Steam, I picked up Fallen Order, Survivor and Squadrons for $30.00 for all three.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (XV/Pl)

85 Joe Biden: Chicago ain't Black and down in the hood likes me if you does not votes foor me. I be sayin yoo needs to wise ups and tell hat's white honky Trump to f**k off.

Chicago residents expressed frustration and anger with President Biden ahead of his visit to the city, warning that Black voters are turning on the Democratic Party in huge numbers.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (qpLSv)

86 Cherchez, Recherché...

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (V13WU)

87 it's a french word but it should be in an english dictionary, it's part of our language too.
Posted by: ace

Like Gotterdammerung!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (9yWhg)

88 >>>What became the first phase of the MCU starting with "Iron Man" was good. These mega-franchises always branch off of something real. But a lot of people probably do realize that "Marvel sucks now" is more realistically, "Marvel has sucked for a while longer than I initially thought."

right. The stupid jokes are really grating now, all the cutesy crap.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:33 PM (KRtlO)

89 Substitute FJB for Iger, voters for investors, and USA for Disney below. Everything now is a shitshow.

Valliant Renegade noted that Bob Iger, uncharacteristically, stayed a long time to answer (or "answer") questions. His surmise is that Disney's big investors called Iger and told them they wanted some answers.

However, his answers -- "answers" -- seem to not have appeased the investors. Probably because while he was technically "answering questions," what he was actually doing was filibustering to avoid actually answer difficult questions.

Midnight's Edge has an example of this -- a questioner wanted to know what Iger was doing to get Star Wars and Marvel producing money again, and Iger filibustered for five minutes blabbing about how pleased he was with ESPN's performance, before then listing a handful of upcoming movies he claims he has "confidence" in. Then he repeated his bullshit that all Star Wars and Marvel need to rehabilitate themselves is fewer projects with a focus on "quality." Listen starting at around 8:00 for that.

So the investors, having told Disney they wanted some reassurance, got none of it at the question and "answer" session, and Disney's shares dropped.

Posted by: Gref at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (5fDan)

90 70 He said that last season's show featured ten episodes about women in the Star Wars universe solving women's problems with women's wisdom,
______________

Female problems?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

Making sure they have free tampons in all the bathrooms of the latest iteration of the Death Star

Posted by: blaster at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (xhfG9)

91 I remember when the idea of reams of Star Wars content would have excited the shit out of me. I was 15. I was also a boy, and not a girl. Weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)
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I was in high school / college when the Thrawn trilogy came out. I eagerly awaited each of them...

Then the prequels happened...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (7fElN)

92 Planet of the Apes descended into stupidity with Battle. It went into hibernation, came back with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and we're now 3 movies later.

It can happen, but there needs to be a cooling off period.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Yeah. The refractory period on a major franchise like Marvel or Star Wars is probably a decade or maybe even longer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (HnUIn)

93 Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:31 PM (KRtlO

The one with him in the garage truck is pretty good.

Posted by: dantesed at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (MwQsd)

94 23 In electronics, they often refer to the "magic smoke" that comes out of an integrated circuit package. Once it is out, the magic is gone with the smoke.

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (RHGPo)
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Yes, that is known.

Posted by: Ciampino - Felice di stare lass� at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (qfLjt)

95 At least Members Only didn't wreck a prior brand. They had their moment in the sun and then faded out.

I also remember OP (Ocean Pacific, IIRC) and Salt Life.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (CsUN+)

96 You have to admire Iger for one thing, he gets paid huge amounts of money for being a total fucktard.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (pohLc)

97 ‘ that Disney's share price dropped 10% and its overall market cap fell by $20 billion.’

Iger will still never understand that he and his leadership is what ran Disney into the ground.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (jbnUc)

98 6m
#BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza.

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But..a mattress actress spanked Donald Trump with a magazine while humping him missionary style!!11!!

Posted by: CNNBCBSMSNBC at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (+oR7L)

99 I loved Iger taking credit for Shogun, which was produced well before Disney took control of Hulu.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

And it's not even that good. It's just that there is very little good new programming, so people will watch the best stuff out there, even if it is mediocre.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (d9fT1)

100 >>>The one wit him in the garage truck is pretty good.

Definitely, but i've seen that so many times. That and Mr. Monk and The Other Detective, where Jason Alexander plays another detective who is able to make plainly impossible deductions that are somehow 100% correct, and Monk keeps yelling "He's cheating!"

(And actually, Monk was right about that.)

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

101 The terribleness of Star Wars and Marvel is now making everyone reevaluate what they found so charming in the pre-terribleness franchises -- were they always this uncool? This stupid? This preachy? This gay?

Mark Hamill simping for Biden isn't helping much either.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 08, 2024 04:36 PM (yOPBE)

102 Cherchez, Recherché...

Recherche La Femme.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:36 PM (CsUN+)

103 The best line in the call was when Iger said they had " Unrivaled ip to mine"

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:36 PM (FQmDC)

104 Did Iger sanction somebody?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:36 PM (9yWhg)

105 101 Mark Hamill simping for Biden isn't helping much either.
Posted by: Chuck C at May 08, 2024 04:36 PM (yOPBE)

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"Still hate me for killing off Luke?"
-Rian Johnson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

106 Iger will still never understand that he and his leadership is what ran Disney into the ground.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 08, 2024 04:35 PM (jbnUc)
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What reason does he have to understand that? Every time he's gone into battle for his job, he and his pet board of directors have emerged victorious.

Sure, massive enterprise value is being lost and the company is running out of money, but Bob Iger has a perfect track record of success.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (HnUIn)

107 They are moving a lot of Thrawn stuff (and not Thrawn stuff, from "High Republic" novels) from "Legends" into canon.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (V13WU)

108 Yeah. The refractory period on a major franchise like Marvel or Star Wars is probably a decade or maybe even longer.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (HnUIn)
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For Star Wars, I'd say at least a generation...And that even works within the lore, as the Jedi were the guardians of peace throughout the galaxy for "a thousand generations."

Let it cool for that long, and then you could do a PROPER "Rise of Skywalker" for a new generation instead of the dumpster fire we got.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (7fElN)

109 I get 41 channels on air cable. Good enough for me.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (R4t5M)

110 Yeah. The refractory period on a major franchise like Marvel or Star Wars is probably a decade or maybe even longer.

Kudos on "refractory period".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (CsUN+)

111 106 What reason does he have to understand that? Every time he's gone into battle for his job, he and his pet board of directors have emerged victorious.

Sure, massive enterprise value is being lost and the company is running out of money, but Bob Iger has a perfect track record of success.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (HnUIn)

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The cruise line is still profitable. What problems are you talking about?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

112 Another shocker!

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post
BREAKING: UNRWA has been caught stealing and then selling humanitarian aid that came into Gaza that was intended to be given to Palestinian civilians, @UNWatch reported, citing reports published by Palestinians in "an UNRWA-related chatroom."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (L/fGl)

113 If they fired Iger and replaced him with Eastwood they would be profitable within 2 years.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (pohLc)

114 >>>107 They are moving a lot of Thrawn stuff (and not Thrawn stuff, from "High Republic" novels) from "Legends" into canon.

except it's all stupid and gay now and Thrawn is up against a bunch of girlbosses instead of Luke.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (KRtlO)

115 "Still hate me for killing off Luke?"
-Rian Johnson
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
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You broke him...you bought him.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (7fElN)

116 The cruise line is still profitable. What problems are you talking about?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
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Exactly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)

117 it's a french word but it should be in an english dictionary, it's part of our language too.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

Okay...then pronounce it with a thick Brooklyn accent!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (d9fT1)

118 32 I know Fox News stinks now. But Rupert Murdoch conned Iger. He totally cashed out of movies and other revenue pits all at Disney’s expense. Its almost as if he knew….
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (7PziG)

Rupert Murdoch is the smartest person in media. You don't want to be buying when he's selling, because he spots the rubes like nobody's business. He totally fleeced DIS because he knew they had no choice.

Kirk Kirkorian is close, because he was able to acquire MGM (the studio he worked at as a laborer for $250/week) and continually sell then repurchase the property for billions in profit each time.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (3Hm/H)

119 OK, I'll throw this bomb:

Star Trek >>>>>>>>>>> Star Wars.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:39 PM (9yWhg)

120 I don't know if he's counting the They/Thems as women. This is a real scene from the new season, in which bad guys -- I assume -- cut down a They/Them and debate "letting Them die."

Even though they're killing this pyrsyn, they sure don't want to misgender Them!

I think they were calling her they/them in reference to her Chlamydia.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 04:39 PM (eDfFs)

121 92
Yeah. The refractory period ......

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:34 PM (HnUIn)
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I'm surprised The Paolo has not commented ......!

Posted by: Ciampino - Felice di stare lassu .... at May 08, 2024 04:39 PM (qfLjt)

122 ShardLake a D- minus show about a humback Lawyer during the Reformation of King Henry IV, Cromwell sends Shardlake to Audit the Monastery because those dirty Catholics are hording wealth, and a Murder happens at one of the Monastery. DEI is on overload, African Bishops, Pakistani and India Monks. Why not have Female Priests? if you aren't going to be Historical.
Sean Bean plays Cromwell, what a waste of an actor for this, show

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 08, 2024 04:39 PM (dKiJG)

123 Disney+ was the chosen vehicle, but due to the massive Kathleen Kennedy's SW failures, they were forced to move Mandalorian to the big screen, sooner rather than later.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:39 PM (V13WU)

124 119 I shit on both of those franchises!
JJ Abrams

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:39 PM (FQmDC)

125 @62 Actually, there was some black guy who was some grade of warrior in Japan. Some henchman of a samurai, I think. Brought there by the Portugees.

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He was a slave. The Portuguese brought him to Ida Nobunaga's court. Nobunaga was shocked to see him, and tried to wash the dark off of his skin. When he realized that the man's skin actually was that dark, he bought him. He kept the man in his court, and made him a samurai. After Nobunaga was betrayed and killed by one of his generals, the man former slave returned to the Portuguese settlement.

Nobunaga's counterpart in the Shogun setting is long-dead. Mariko's father was the general who betrayed him.

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 04:40 PM (/9Tks)

126 @105

>>"Still hate me for killing off Luke?"
-Rian Johnson

No, I hate you for being handed the keys to one of the greatest IP's of the last 50 years and literally winging it.

There are at least 5 people on this blog who could have delivered a better treatment than that pile of sh*t they pulled out of their a**es.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

127 >>>Star Trek >>>>>>>>>>> Star Wars.

Not now, though. That's another IP they've burned to the ground.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:40 PM (KRtlO)

128 So now the Mandalorian and Grogu movie is in pre-prod or something.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:40 PM (V13WU)

129 I'm still shocked that Rey was a white girl with a english accent.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 08, 2024 04:40 PM (+oR7L)

130 Iger will still never understand that he and his leadership is what ran Disney into the ground.

But he takes two showers per day in his office, so...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (ufFY8)

131 >>>ShardLake a D- minus show about a humback Lawyer during the Reformation of King Henry I

huh I just saw a promo for that. Sean Bean looks unwell, unfortunately. (Unless it's make up or something.)

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

132 I know Fox News stinks now. But Rupert Murdoch conned Iger. He totally cashed out of movies and other revenue pits all at Disney’s expense. Its almost as if he knew….
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (7PziG)
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When the books close, I suspect that nobody will have taken Disney for more than Comcast. Comcast's CEO Brian Roberts has been punching Iger in the guts and taking his wallet for years. No single hit as big as the preposterous 20th Century Fox acquisition, but Roberts is doing a "death by a thousand cuts" thing.

I am sure Roberts appreciates Iger buying him the NBA rights, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (HnUIn)

133 Check out the Critical Drinker on Youtube. He says the same things Ace does, but he has a really cool Scottish accent.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (2UnvF)

134 except it's all stupid and gay now and Thrawn is up against a bunch of girlbosses instead of Luke.
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (KRtlO)
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The challenge of writing a villain like Thrawn is that he needs to be used sparingly, or as a behind-the-scenes character moving pieces around the board.

Also, he needs to have a worthy hero (or group of heroes) as his foil. In the Thrawn trilogy, it took the combined wits of Leia, Han, and Lando to try and suss out what Thrawn was really up to. Luke really wasn't involved in that struggle (he was focused on Joruus C'baoth).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (7fElN)

135 I am never going to refer to some person who considers themself non binary as "They/them. I'll just use whatever chosen name they have. Fortunately, I haven't had any prolonged dealings with transgenders or any with people who consider themselves non binary.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (XkYcA)

136 >>>they were forced to move Mandalorian to the big screen, sooner rather than later.

yup.

It's going to bomb on the big screen, too. It just isn't a big movie-level thing.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

137 136 >>>they were forced to move Mandalorian to the big screen, sooner rather than later.

yup.

It's going to bomb on the big screen, too. It just isn't a big movie-level thing.
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

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Assuming it actually gets made.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

138 Check out the Critical Drinker on Youtube. He says the same things Ace does, but he has a really cool Scottish accent.

The way he swallows consonants, I expect him to defecate a dictionary soon.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (CsUN+)

139
So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

I'd rather see a bad high school play. Just like I'd watch a high school sporting event over going to a MLB / NFL event.

Vaudeville died, big movies from all brands will follow suit.

Posted by: Auspex at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (j4U/Z)

140 No, I hate you for being handed the keys to one of the greatest IP's of the last 50 years and literally winging it.

Unbelievable how they could squander that.

What could they have done differently if they INTENDED to kill it? Nothing, that I can see.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (ufFY8)

141 You know what, people, Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet is forever, right ? I am sure there was a crappy production of those two by ...the Comédie-Française in 1799, but did that impact our experience in the 20-21st century ??NO! of course not.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (V13WU)

142 136 >>>they were forced to move Mandalorian to the big screen, sooner rather than later.

Should have moved it to the garbage

Posted by: It's me donna at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (Akjoo)

143 139
So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

I'd rather see a bad high school play. Just like I'd watch a high school sporting event over going to a MLB / NFL event.

Vaudeville died, big movies from all brands will follow suit.
Posted by: Auspex at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (j4U/Z)

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I'm gonna go see Furiousa.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

144 I'm still shocked that Rey was a white girl with a english accent.
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 08, 2024 04:40 PM (+oR7L)
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It was a different time.

That sounds absurd, but it's true. "The Force Awakens" came out in 2015, and started its production process in probably early 2013.

Might as well have happened on a different planet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (HnUIn)

145 Star Trek >>>>>>>>>>> Star Wars.

I would have never agreed with you before but on balance, taking all related TV/film together

you're right

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (s3qiR)

146 Both those universes, SW and ST are going to live on.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (V13WU)

147 huh I just saw a promo for that. Sean Bean looks unwell, unfortunately. (Unless it's make up or something.)
Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

He got old and Fat, it happens to us all

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (dKiJG)

148 The board won its proxy battle against Peltz, so I guess it was all worth it.
_______
Iger seems to be a student of Harry Reid.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (1bNHn)

149 Let's not forget the dark storm on the horizon - the debt laden donkey that is ESPN. NBA down. Almost no share of NFL. College football in chaos and ACC on the verge of demotion or collapse, ESPN's portfolio is shrinking (though they did win a no-bid extension for the playoffs).
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (hCzfy)

All the things that I believed in, for all these years, 50 years of coaching, no longer exist in college athletics.

Posted by: Nick Saban, Got Out While The Getting Was Good at May 08, 2024 04:44 PM (4a+k3)

150 Okay...then pronounce it with a thick Brooklyn accent!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:38 PM (d9fT1)

Re Choich …

Posted by: browndog is awaiting the day of rectification at May 08, 2024 04:44 PM (GiOtB)

151 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

I went to see Talk to Me

it was good!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:44 PM (s3qiR)

152 The only two characters Disney Star Wars created that were embraced are the Mandalorian(basically Boba Fett copy) and Grogu( a "baby" Yoda)

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:44 PM (FQmDC)

153 just finished Picard btw

it was good!

Fallout right now and it kicks ass

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (s3qiR)

154 If I recall correctly, Bistromath is from the "Long, Dark Tea Time of the Soul" - perhaps Douglas Adams' weirdest book.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (HnUIn)

155 Grogu should turn to the dark side and just go ape shit crazy.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (R4t5M)

156 Should have moved it to the garbage
Posted by: It's me donna at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (Akjoo)

I disagree. Disney the Corp destroyed Carano, but they will pay for it. It has nothing to do with what the creatives did.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (V13WU)

157 I figure Letitia James is getting ready to sue Disney on behalf of the good voters of NY for fraudulently valuing Hulu, since that's apparently how things work these days.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (oCS0o)

158 I disagree. Disney the Corp destroyed Carano, but they will pay for it. It has nothing to do with what the creatives did.
Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (V13WU)

Does it have the Disney name ? Then garbage

Posted by: It's me donna at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (Akjoo)

159 154 If I recall correctly, Bistromath is from the "Long, Dark Tea Time of the Soul" - perhaps Douglas Adams' weirdest book.

correct but I didn't want to get all picky

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (s3qiR)

160 I figure Letitia James is getting ready to sue Disney on behalf of the good voters of NY for fraudulently valuing Hulu, since that's apparently how things work these days.
Posted by: Octochicken at May 08, 2024 04:45 PM (oCS0o)
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LOL. If they have a business presence in NY, I hope some troll in a minor office files something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (HnUIn)

161 Different planet indeed.When they made the Harry Potter movies JK Rowling made sure the actors were all British and they were white, like in the books.

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (FQmDC)

162 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Anatomy of a Fall

The child trafficking movie.

Top Gun Maverick

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (ufFY8)

163 @152

>>The only two characters Disney Star Wars created that were embraced are the Mandalorian(basically Boba Fett copy) and Grogu( a "baby" Yoda)

People dug Cara Dune, but they cancelled her.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:47 PM (XV/Pl)

164 145 Star Trek >>>>>>>>>>> Star Wars.

I would have never agreed with you before but on balance, taking all related TV/film together

you're right
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:43 PM (s3qiR)

I'd take away a few of the greater-than signs, but yeah, I'd have to agree.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 08, 2024 04:47 PM (3Hm/H)

165 Methinks people have had enough of the college temper tantrums.

https://tinyurl.com/2yfcucrz

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:47 PM (CsUN+)

166 33 btw, I keep hearing Lucas is coming back to direct something starwars for Lucasfilm...
Posted by: runner

Why not. He has experience with Marvel, too!

Posted by: Howard the Duck at May 08, 2024 04:47 PM (gKWVE)

167 I am sure Roberts appreciates Iger buying him the NBA rights, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:41 PM (HnUIn)

Comcast, ABC, Disney merger has been well over the SEC 30% merger market acquisition rules for many years actually...not that anyone cares right now...except maybe a future Trump admin...just saying.

That split would be - interesting to say the least...

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (K+UlC)

168 161 Different planet indeed.When they made the Harry Potter movies JK Rowling made sure the actors were all British and they were white, like in the books.
Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (FQmDC)

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"Except Hermione! Who could be black! Also Dumbledore is gay!"
-JK Rowling, a few years ago.

JK Rowling is a woke female supremacist who hates white people. She just knows that men can't become women because men aren't as good as women and men are pigs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)

169 Woke had destroyed Disney, and glamorized golf carts are destroying auto makers. Woke is broke. Because wokesters are idiots, and resistant to learning from mistakes they cannot even see because they live in their stupid delusions.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (pohLc)

170 Disney is still way overpriced compared to its peers.

At this point, I’m hoping shareholders get it good and hard. They had a chance to right the ship, but decided they wanted to continue in the same woke direction.

Posted by: Benchmark at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (E9hJx)

171 some reviewer said that Thrawn is supposedly a fifth-dimensional genius, but on the TV show he's a dope always being outwitted by superior girlbosses, so to preserve the fiction that he's a genius, the show always has him say "Failure was always part of my plan."

But he never explains this plan or how it is advanced by failing all the time.

In other words, he's Blue Joe Biden.

Posted by: ace at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

172 All your children are belong to us.

- Disney

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (L/fGl)

173 162 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Anatomy of a Fall

The child trafficking movie.

Top Gun Maverick
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Top Gun Maverick

Posted by: E.T. at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (x0K/Y)

174 163 Yes, I would have included her but they ejected her with extreme prejudice

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (FQmDC)

175 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Posted by: Auspex at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (j4U/Z)

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I honestly don't remember. I do like going to the movies, though. There just isn't anything I want to see.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (DRSnL)

176 162 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

For me it was long ago,

Keanu. I went during a weekday on a day off. I was the only person in the theater.

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (MNhXM)

177 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

"One Life", which is about an English guy who before WWII saved hundreds of Jewish children. Excellent film. Before that "Cabrini", "The Boys In the Boat" and "The Holdovers" Also excellent. I can't recall when I last saw a Disney Film.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (XkYcA)

178 correct but I didn't want to get all picky
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:46 PM (s3qiR)
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Wait, now I'm second-guessing myself.

"Long, Dark Tea Time of the Soul" was the sequel to "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency." IIRC (and clearly I don't), Bistromath underpinned the major development in star drives after the Infinite Improbability Drive, which would indeed make it a "Hitchhiker" book, though I don't remember which one.

Dammit, now I have to go look.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (HnUIn)

179 I did not know Lucas backed Iger. Had to be for a price.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (V13WU)

180 "Except Hermione! Who could be black! Also Dumbledore is gay!"
-JK Rowling, a few years ago.

JK Rowling is a woke female supremacist who hates white people. She just knows that men can't become women because men aren't as good as women and men are pigs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:48 PM (GBKbO)
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yeah, she retconned her entire series to appease the woke crowd, but they found a line she didn't want to cross.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (7fElN)

181 162 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Dune 2. Only the fourth movie I saw in a theater in the past 20 years, and it was worth it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (3Hm/H)

182 168 Oh I agree. Hilarious to see how much the left hates her when she is 99.99% on board with them

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (FQmDC)

183 "Long, Dark Tea Time of the Soul" was the sequel to "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency." IIRC (and clearly I don't), Bistromath underpinned the major development in star drives after the Infinite Improbability Drive, which would indeed make it a "Hitchhiker" book, though I don't remember which one.

Dammit, now I have to go look.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (HnUIn)
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Chapter 7 of Life, the Universe, and Everything

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (7fElN)

184 All true, but Disney’s stock had been on a bull run up until the earnings call. So it’s still way higher than it was 6 months ago and a year ago …

I hate Disney as much as the rest of you, but if youre waiting for the company to cease being a major multi-billion dollar company, youre gonna be disappointed. Current market cap? 200B.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (+vxI1)

185 yeah go look Mannix I really don't remember bistromath as a hitchhikers thing

but it was a thing

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (s3qiR)

186 179 I did not know Lucas backed Iger. Had to be for a price.
Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (V13WU)

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"Storytelling isn't for amateurs."
-Something Lucas actually wrote in support of Iger.

Storytelling needs experts, apparently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

187 >Gotta love how the villains will stab someone in the back, but respect their pronoun choices.

I said about Warhammer that the woke will depict a galactic civil war where both good guys and bad guys are diverse and respect pronouns. That might be a clue to the madness if you wish to dissect it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (cf/0E)

188 Thrawn is a character who cannot be written by dumb writers.

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (FQmDC)

189 Chapter 7 of Life, the Universe, and Everything

I stand corrected!

thanks Professor

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (s3qiR)

190 None of the original Star Wars were really that good.

They were fluff, popcorn movies.

They only were respectable because they were 1st.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (g9W3m)

191 188 Thrawn is a character who cannot be written by dumb writers.

oof well that's a problem then

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (s3qiR)

192 162 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?
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Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker

WORST. STAR WARS. EVER.

I will never get those three hours back.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (7fElN)

193 Chapter 7 of Life, the Universe, and Everything
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (7fElN)
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Now I don't have to go look!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (HnUIn)

194 184 All true, but Disney’s stock had been on a bull run up until the earnings call. So it’s still way higher than it was 6 months ago and a year ago …

I hate Disney as much as the rest of you, but if youre waiting for the company to cease being a major multi-billion dollar company, youre gonna be disappointed. Current market cap? 200B.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (+vxI1)

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If they didn't have a cruise line or the parks, they're be serious bankruptcy talks.

But they do have the parks and the cruise line which seem to be quite in a healthy state overall.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

195 Oh you mentioned Warhammer. They are now making transgender canon in the 40k universe....

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (FQmDC)

196 thanks Professor
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (s3qiR)
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Hitchhiker's Wiki to the rescue!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (7fElN)

197 The last movies I've seen in theaters

Godzilla Minus One
Oppenheimer
Sound of Freedom
Super Mario Brothers

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (XV/Pl)

198 190They only were respectable because they were 1st.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (g9W3m)

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"Say, what, sonny?"
-Buck Rodgers

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (GBKbO)

199 Were Bob Iger honest, he would admit billions in losses are acceptable since Disney's primary purpose isn't making money for its investors. Its primary purpose is the ideological indoctrination of children; thus, Disney will continue producing awful-to-mediocre Woke shit until a stake is driven through its vile, child-corrupting corporate heart.

Posted by: troyriser at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (dsdI5)

200 None of the original Star Wars were really that good.

They were fluff, popcorn movies.

They only were respectable because they were 1st.

The question is always "compared to what". Hollywood at that point was producing downer, anti-American garbage. SW was novel in that you felt good as you left the theater. Otherwise, yeah, it's a terrible movie.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (CsUN+)

201 56 Let's not forget the dark storm on the horizon - the debt laden donkey that is ESPN. NBA down. Almost no share of NFL. College football in chaos and ACC on the verge of demotion or collapse, ESPN's portfolio is shrinking (though they did win a no-bid extension for the playoffs).

The multi year, multi billion dollar contracts are a bubble just waiting to burst, mostly due to all the poison that Dusney itself has injected into sports programming.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (hCzfy)

Clay Travis has an article that's pretty interesting over on Outkick.com theorizing about the upcoming deal(s) for NBA media rights. He continues to call the NBA a niche sport, but he's thinking that Amazon could essentially kill WB/Discovery by bidding the price for broadcast rights to the point where TNT can't afford it, and that's their biggest ratings draw these days. Could be a similar result for ESPN if the price gets too high.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (oCS0o)

202 This busty blonde in a skin-tight dress didn't get all dolled up to go see some Disney movie:
http://tiny.cc/dor0yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (HnUIn)

203 My daughters like watching the original star wars movies. We celebrated "May the Fourth" this year.

She refuses to watch anything other than the first three.. err, sorry, "episodes 4,5 and 6."

You know what the best Disney Star Wars "movie" is? The Phineas and Ferb cartoon one, which was silly and fun and actually well done.

Far better than that abomination about SuperMarySue Rey.

I was thinking: did anyone like Luke Skywalker? Most people enjoyed Leia in her braless white dress, and Han Solo was pretty kick-butt, and Chewbacca stole the show. But Luke was in the desert and whining.

Posted by: SimoHayha at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (N/k1H)

204 Thrawn is more of a "big bad" then a "villain", nyah ?

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (V13WU)

205 Had to be for a price.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:49 PM (V13WU)

He knows that Iger is going to drive Disney into the ground, and then he can buy back LucasFilm for pennies on the dollar!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (d9fT1)

206 People went to streaming bc cable sucked and was full of commercials. So after a while, now that we have to pay to see 20-year-old movies and any decent show, it's just like cable but with crappy content. And the apps are very clunky to use.

Shogun was on cable and CRUSHED it. It was excellent. Hollywood can't produce something this good bc they are lost in their ideology and contempt for their customers. I think Netflix kind of gets is and is trying but the rest is expensive crap.

Posted by: PJ at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (G1dq6)

207 How does Iger still have a job? I've never worked at a place where you could f**k up that consistently and not get fired.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (B9Dv5)

208 I guess it says something about me that I have absolutely no memory of Members Only. My wife does, but I am, as usual, oblivious.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (1bNHn)

209 Can't remember the last movie I saw in the theater, Return of the King? Wanted to rent Dune II last week, $24.99, not happening. Then I saw Zendaya at the Met and thought, nope, double not happening.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (2NHgQ)

210 138
The way he swallows consonants, I expect him to defecate a dictionary soon.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (CsUN+)
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A Serbian dictionary?

Posted by: Ciampino - Felice di stare lassu ... at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (qfLjt)

211 OT - talk to me about nonWP cms options? anyone?

processwire? Joomla? are any of them a good idea?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (s3qiR)

212 Last time I went to a movie was Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (/UtnQ)

213 Thrawn is a character who cannot be written by dumb writers.
Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (FQmDC)
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One of the challenges all writers face is how to write a character that is smarter than they are.

For Hollywood writers, they struggle to write characters of even average intelligence.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (7fElN)

214 Watched the Chris Pine Star Trek remake early this week. I’m no Star Trek geek but I think they did a great job except they should have made Pike a vegetable. They did have him in a wheelchair at the end though .

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (MNhXM)

215

I thought the blacks would save them.

Guess not.

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (kodd8)

216 188 Thrawn is a character who cannot be written by dumb writers.
Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (FQmDC)

True, but I disagree with one of his strengths. According to the canon, his ability to use his understanding of an enemy culture's art (paintings, sculptures) to get to the heart of their fighting strategy to defeat them never rang true for me, even though it's a cool thought. If he was going to go there, I would think that it's a culture's language that does that.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (3Hm/H)

217 @34 Maybe after the last 75 times of reporting that Kathleen Kennedy was definitely being fired he feels a little burned?
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Isn't that Doomc@@k at Overlord that's constantly reporting that she's about to be fired?
Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (/9Tks)

I'm reasonably sure that DoomC@@k and WDPro are the same person. Have you ever seen them together in the same room? I rest my case.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (DR8fH)

218 I think JK Rowling telling everyone that hate-speech-laws can get effed has inspired Scott Adams. Different target but same strategy: Tell me what I can't say, so I can say in on my show every fucking day.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (cf/0E)

219 They are now making transgender canon in the 40k universe....

Always was

Posted by: Slaanesh at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (gKWVE)

220 Oh and we are getting Bladerunner 2099 with Michelle Yeoh...

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (FQmDC)

221 Current market cap? 200B.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (+vxI1)

Look at the market cap five years ago, then tell me what the plan is to return to significant profitability.

Investors don't care about market cap; they care about growth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (d9fT1)

222 Thanks for the Mannix babe, Mannix!

I do love it when Mannix and Fenelon post competing girls. I don't know who wins... actually, I do. We all win when they start competing on showing us pretty females.

Posted by: SimoHayha at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (N/k1H)

223 Can't remember the last movie I saw in the theater, Return of the King? Wanted to rent Dune II last week, $24.99, not happening. Then I saw Zendaya at the Met and thought, nope, double not happening.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (2NHgQ

Same here. For 24.99 they need to provide dinner with the movie.

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (MNhXM)

224 Shogun was on cable and CRUSHED it. It was excellent. Hollywood can't produce something this good bc they are lost in their ideology and contempt for their customers. I think Netflix kind of gets is and is trying but the rest is expensive crap.

Agree. It was really well done.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (CsUN+)

225 He knows that Iger is going to drive Disney into the ground, and then he can buy back LucasFilm for pennies on the dollar!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (d9fT1)

If only....

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (V13WU)

226 DEIsney's stock surged when Peltz announced his proxy fight, and slowly drifted downwards (slightly) after he lost the vote.

Took a shit after this earnings call.

I was expecting DIS to drift down towards 80 this summer and fall, as people wake up to Iger's bullshit.

Peltz might make another run at a seat.

Interesting that an analyst explicitly asked about the CEO succession plan.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (ufFY8)

227 190 None of the original Star Wars were really that good.

They were fluff, popcorn movies.

They only were respectable because they were 1st.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 08, 2024 04:51 PM (g9W3m)
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Actually, I agree. The first wasn't too bad, the 2nd stunk. I've never seen another.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (1bNHn)

228 Star Trek >>>>>>>>>>> Star Wars.

Speaking of ST...

Is 3rd season "Picard" ackshewallee any good?

Or, did they just do a ton of walk-ons with old Star Trek cast members, so the audience would be all lost in their member berries like in the last Spiderman movie?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (eDfFs)

229 For $24.99 Zendaya better give me a happy ending

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (FQmDC)

230 I had a Korean friend who brought me back a "Members Only" jacket from the factory, but the label hadn't been sewn on.

I used to carry the label around in the pocket of the jacket. People'd say, "Is that a Member's Only jacket?" and I'd whip out the label and show it to them.

Er, I mean, my DAD. My dad did all that. Funny guy.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (asXVI)

231 220 Oh and we are getting Bladerunner 2099 with Michelle Yeoh...
Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (FQmDC)

In what role? I'm a fan of Michelle Yeoh, but she's getting on in years to be doing martial arts stuff.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (B9Dv5)

232 228 Is 3rd season "Picard" ackshewallee any good?

Or, did they just do a ton of walk-ons with old Star Trek cast members, so the audience would be all lost in their member berries like in the last Spiderman movie?
Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 04:55 PM (eDfFs)

========

I genuinely enjoyed it after suffering through the first season and skipping the second.

I'm really not one for member-berries.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

233 231 Not familiar with the story but she is the lead I imagine

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:56 PM (FQmDC)

234 Is 3rd season "Picard" ackshewallee any good?

it is really good honestly

but yeah there's a lot of nostalgia

I liked the first two seasons? were they supposedly bad? the second one was kind of funny - that was covid year and they clearly had like two sets

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:56 PM (s3qiR)

235 He knows that Iger is going to drive Disney into the ground, and then he can buy back LucasFilm for pennies on the dollar!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (d9fT1)
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I'm with Ace on this. Disney will *never* sell Lucasfilm, at least not while anyone who had anything even remotely to do with acquisition are still around.

What would they get for Lucasfilm now? What's it worth? It's worth ILM and not much more. Maybe a third of a billion? Half? Not more than that, if I had to guess (and I do).

Nobody at Disney will permit an asset the acquired for $4 billion sell for that little, especially since they've made basically nothing on Star Wars properties on net, and have probably made actual losses. Lucasfilm represents *billions* in destroyed value, and to sell it would be to recognize that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:56 PM (HnUIn)

236 Faster, MickeyMouse! Die! Die!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (YuSCk)

237 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (HnUIn)

I'm sure she didn't get all dolled up if no profit was involved either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (XkYcA)

238 Disney’s stock had been on a bull run up until the earnings call. So it’s still way higher than it was 6 months ago…

Yeah, I sold all my DIS (I used to have Pixar stock) in November. Went to see how much I’d saved by bailing, and they’re still way higher than what I sold it for then. Almost 25% higher.

I don’t mind having gotten rid of it; I don’t like to keep stock that seems to be flailing and has no focus, or at least not one on good long-term product. But there’s a lot of generational value still left in Disney. They’ve got a ways to go before they destroy it all.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (EXyHK)

239 alls I care about is Cobra Kai coming back

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (s3qiR)

240 Can't remember the last movie I saw in the theater, Return of the King?
________
May have been Master and Commander.

But that's only partly loss of interest. As the bladder ages, Hitchcock's rule becomes more and more limiting.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (1bNHn)

241 The Three Percenter, or III%er, Militia Used As An FBI Front Group In 2020 Is Again Proliferating On Facebook

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (RHGPo)

242 >>>Hollywood accounting makes bistromath look like pre-algebra.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:30 PM (7fElN)

This is what I was thinking. These numbers are all made up. The losses are much worse than they admit.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (q177U)

243 One of the challenges all writers face is how to write a character that is smarter than they are.

For Hollywood writers, they struggle to write characters of even average intelligence.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (7fElN)

true, so they write a comical villain a la Blofeld

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (V13WU)

244 Shogun was on cable and CRUSHED it. It was excellent. Hollywood can't produce something this good bc they are lost in their ideology and contempt for their customers. I think Netflix kind of gets is and is trying but the rest is expensive crap.

Agree. It was really well done.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (CsUN+)

The two best streaming shows so far this year both involved Japan.

Shogun, of course.

But, "Tokyo Vice" on Max is also excellent.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (eDfFs)

245 A walk down memory lane courtesy of James Woods.

https://shorturl.at/dlwzD

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (L/fGl)

246 I think the last movie I saw in a theater was Godzilla King of the Monsters

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (FQmDC)

247 Same here. For 24.99 they need to provide dinner with the movie.
Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (MNhXM)

I got sucked in

It was craptastic!!!

A goddamn Chanifest

It bore no resemblance to the book

I hate them

Posted by: browndog is awaiting the day of rectification at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (GiOtB)

248 Uh...hi...my name's Brother Tim...and I had a Member's Only jacket when I was a kid...

/hangs head in shame and shuffles off

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (OUMaO)

249 244 But, "Tokyo Vice" on Max is also excellent.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (eDfFs)

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I'm enjoying The Sympathizer. Vietnam, which is practically Japan, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

250 Yeah, forgot about Godzilla Minus One.
Saw that too.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (ufFY8)

251 True, but I disagree with one of his strengths. According to the canon, his ability to use his understanding of an enemy culture's art (paintings, sculptures) to get to the heart of their fighting strategy to defeat them never rang true for me, even though it's a cool thought. If he was going to go there, I would think that it's a culture's language that does that.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 08, 2024 04:53 PM (3Hm/H)
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I think it was meant to be a lot more subtle than that. he studied art as a means of understanding the culture, yes, but his ability to use their blind spots in battle was a byproduct of studying them rather than the purpose. Thrawn may have been the galaxy's finest art critic, deriving significant pleasure and enjoyment from art. At least one culture was destroyed (by him) before he could fully appreciate their art, which he regrets.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:58 PM (7fElN)

252 139
So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

I'd rather see a bad high school play. Just like I'd watch a high school sporting event over going to a MLB / NFL event.

Vaudeville died, big movies from all brands will follow suit.
Posted by: Auspex at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (j4U/Z)

I think it's John Wick 4 for me (overly long, IMO).

Posted by: Octochicken at May 08, 2024 04:59 PM (oCS0o)

253 The Three Percenter, or III%er, Militia Used As An FBI Front Group In 2020 Is Again Proliferating On Facebook
Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:57 PM (RHGPo)

Emptying the bag of tricks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 04:59 PM (R4t5M)

254 Lucasfilm represents *billions* in destroyed value, and to sell it would be to recognize that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:56 PM (HnUIn)

To bad they're not a pass thru LLC - partners could use the loss - shareholders? Not so much....

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 04:59 PM (K+UlC)

255 The Lady or the Iger?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 04:59 PM (63Dwl)

256 200 None of the original Star Wars were really that good.

They were fluff, popcorn movies.

They only were respectable because they were 1st.

The question is always "compared to what". Hollywood at that point was producing downer, anti-American garbage. SW was novel in that you felt good as you left the theater. Otherwise, yeah, it's a terrible movie.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (CsUN+)

Yeah, my friends and I didn't leave a theater in the 70s feeling terrific about life after watching Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter, all the 70s disaster movies, Godfather 1 and 2, Marathon Man, The Boys from Brazil, The Seven-Ups, The French Connection 2, and so on...

Posted by: Gref at May 08, 2024 05:00 PM (5fDan)

257 I rather loved the Sherlock Holmes movies with Robert Downey Jr.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 08, 2024 05:00 PM (pohLc)

258 I've rewatched the original Star Wars movies many times. They are solid films. They hold up well.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2024 05:00 PM (q177U)

259 I rather loved the Sherlock Holmes movies with Robert Downey Jr.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 08, 2024 05:00 PM (pohLc)

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Me too.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (DRSnL)

260 Have not been to a Movie Theatre in many many years... like... 20?

85 inch 4K TV... Dennon sound system with Klipsch Speakers... and Booze only 10 feet from my couch...

Why theatre?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (xaFKb)

261 260 Have not been to a Movie Theatre in many many years... like... 20?

85 inch 4K TV... Dennon sound system with Klipsch Speakers... and Booze only 10 feet from my couch...

Why theatre?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (xaFKb)

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The lack of a pause button. It makes you pay more attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

262 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

For me, the last "Mission: Impossible." Cruise is probably nuttier than squirrel sh*t but he makes fun flicks to entertain me, not improve me.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (/y8xj)

263 Lucasfilm represents *billions* in destroyed value, and to sell it would be to recognize that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:56 PM (HnUIn)

That's my take as well. For the time being, they can pretend Lucasfilm is worth what they paid, or even more. But all the pretending ends if they sell.

For that to happen everyone involved with the purchase or the management of Lucasfilm has to be gone, and the new top guy would have to have a "bad news quarter" strategy where he admits all those numbers are BS.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 05:02 PM (B9Dv5)

264 The lack of a pause button. It makes you pay more attention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)
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...to your bladder.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 05:02 PM (7fElN)

265 223 Can't remember the last movie I saw in the theater, Return of the King? Wanted to rent Dune II last week, $24.99, not happening. Then I saw Zendaya at the Met and thought, nope, double not happening.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 08, 2024 04:52 PM (2NHgQ

Same here. For 24.99 they need to provide dinner with the movie.
Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (MNhXM)

Ah, give it a few more weeks. The current streaming system seems to initially make a rental more expensive than a movie ticket, then you go through a period when you can only buy it, then the rental price drops to $6-7.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 08, 2024 05:02 PM (oCS0o)

266 Napoleon, and it was at least for historical accuracy very bad

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (fwDg9)

267 264 The lack of a pause button. It makes you pay more attention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)
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...to your bladder.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 05:02 PM (7fElN)

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Go before and don't buy snacks or a drink?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (GBKbO)

268 I've rewatched the original Star Wars movies many times. They are solid films. They hold up well.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2024 05:00 PM (q177U)

Agreed. The third was a little lame with the singing ewoks (sorry Ace), but they were all entertaining.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (d9fT1)

269 Why theatre?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 08, 2024 05:01 PM (xaFKb)

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The popcorn.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (DRSnL)

270 Nobody at Disney will permit an asset the acquired for $4 billion sell for that little, especially since they've made basically nothing on Star Wars properties on net, and have probably made actual losses. Lucasfilm represents *billions* in destroyed value, and to sell it would be to recognize that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

It's like buying a Ducati to look cool speeding on the Autobahn, wrecking it backing out of your driveway, then insisting on selling it for no less than what you paid, even though you turned it into scrap through your own incompetence.

That's Lucasfim and Marvel.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (OUMaO)

271 He's so gone. This is a farce of a sham.

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Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (IG4Id)

272 221 Current market cap? 200B.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 08, 2024 04:50 PM (+vxI1)

Look at the market cap five years ago, then tell me what the plan is to return to significant profitability.

Investors don't care about market cap; they care about growth.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 04:54 PM (d9fT1)
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Five years ago? Before Covid and at the height of the streaming bubble and in Trump’s economy? Not a fair comparison. Many companies will never have valuations like they did then. Yes, investors care about growth. And the stock is much higher than a year ago and 6 months ago, even after the correction described here. So investors are at least reasonably happy with the company’s results. It doesn’t matter that everyone here hates Disney. The investors don’t.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (+vxI1)

273 The last movie I saw in the theater was Black Panther, which I was more or less forced into seeing. The special effects were great. The politics they injected into it were execrable.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (B9Dv5)

274 268 Agreed. The third was a little lame with the singing ewoks (sorry Ace), but they were all entertaining.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (d9fT1)

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Return of the Jedi is weird. I don't think it works. It feels safe...and the derailment (Mark Andrew Edward's word) of Han Solo is all wrong.

And it was my favorite as a kid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (GBKbO)

275 George Lucas and JJ Abrams low-key hate Star Wars. It never had a chance.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (cf/0E)

276 I’ve been watching some of the over 5,000 free movies available on Comcast’s On Demand .

Admittedly I have probably watched 80% of the ones I picked for only 20 to 25 minutes before I bailed. Lot and lot of crappy movies out there.

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (MNhXM)

277 I thought Disney got rid of all their problems when they got rid of the ABC DEI hire president. Must have a lot more problems

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (5S+sK)

278 Last new movie I watched? Top Gun Maverick in a theater. Unfrosted at home.

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (/9Tks)

279 Napoleon, and it was at least for historical accuracy very bad
Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (fwDg9)
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It was in all respects bad. If you want to see Ridley Scott do the Napoleonic era, watch "The Duellists."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (Be/+i)

280 279 Napoleon, and it was at least for historical accuracy very bad
Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (fwDg9)
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It was in all respects bad. If you want to see Ridley Scott do the Napoleonic era, watch "The Duellists."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (Be/+i)

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It's certainly not good, but I find it hard to dismiss the production values and spectacle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:05 PM (GBKbO)

281 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Wall-E

Posted by: Ciampino - Felice di stare lassu .. at May 08, 2024 05:05 PM (qfLjt)

282 268 I've rewatched the original Star Wars movies many times. They are solid films. They hold up well.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2024 05:00 PM (q177U)

Agreed. The third was a little lame with the singing ewoks (sorry Ace), but they were all entertaining.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (d9fT1)

My biggest complaint is Hamill's acting in the first one. He was a markedly better actor by the third.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 05:06 PM (B9Dv5)

283 Luke, refraining from killing the Emperor, is after a contrived sainthood or maybe martyrdom. And he is betraying his friends who are fighting in a more-literal sense.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2024 05:06 PM (cf/0E)

284 If anything, Disney got a sensational deal on the IP for LucasFilm and marvel. They just drove it into the ground with their woke nonsense.

Posted by: Benchmark at May 08, 2024 05:06 PM (E9hJx)

285 Hello fellow Patriots,

Anyone have a pointer or two to some reasonably priced khaki pants or tiki torches?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Fibbert Glowie at May 08, 2024 05:06 PM (a3Q+t)

286 It's certainly not good, but I find it hard to dismiss the production values and spectacle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:05 PM (GBKbO)
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That's kind of like saying, "This copy of 'The Thoughts of Chairman Mao' has a really nice cover." The contents are still crap.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (Be/+i)

287 Y'all need to read the movie threads more. I won't steer ya wrong. TJM might...he's kinda twitchy.*

You wanna see a GOOD movie? Go see "Hundreds of Beavers". You want some quality nostalgia? Go see "Late Night with the Devil". (These are both streaming now, too.)

They're out there, ya just gotta be...selective.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (asXVI)

288 TheBlaze
@theblaze
Man accused of kidnapping teenager and raping her for months in his Chicago basement had been arrested 52 times previously

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Yeah? Well, I wonder what she was wearing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (L/fGl)

289 The Internet is free crap heaven.

Like you died and went to the Big Red Box in the sky.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (fV+MH)

290 Even for Napoleon, the local theater is really very cheap now it was dropped by the big theater chain

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (fwDg9)

291 286 It's certainly not good, but I find it hard to dismiss the production values and spectacle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:05 PM (GBKbO)
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That's kind of like saying, "This copy of 'The Thoughts of Chairman Mao' has a really nice cover." The contents are still crap.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (Be/+i)

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Nah. That'd be like overpraising the poster.

The spectacle is part of the package. Again, the film is not good, but the spectacle is something within the package of the film that is worthwhile.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (GBKbO)

292 Dead reckoning was good i was in a theatre where the seats echoed the motion

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 08, 2024 05:08 PM (PXvVL)

293 I was at Disneyland last month. Kids wanted to go together before Marine got married.

The Star Wars section was unbelievable. Jaw dropping. I felt like I was a kid again.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 08, 2024 05:08 PM (qF+Bw)

294 287 Y'all need to read the movie threads more. I won't steer ya wrong. TJM might...he's kinda twitchy.*

You wanna see a GOOD movie? Go see "Hundreds of Beavers". You want some quality nostalgia? Go see "Late Night with the Devil". (These are both streaming now, too.)

They're out there, ya just gotta be...selective.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (asXVI)

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Kaiju have an effect over time. Something akin to radiation poisoning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:08 PM (GBKbO)

295 Last new movie I watched? Top Gun Maverick in a theater. Unfrosted at home.
Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (/9Tks)

I enjoyed it but you have to admit they should have titled it

Top Gun Ethan Maverick

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 05:08 PM (MNhXM)

296 Bob Iger is the most magnificently incompetent boob I have ever seen.

He's the gift that just keeps spewing clown juice.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (fV+MH)

297 278 Last new movie I watched? Top Gun Maverick in a theater. Unfrosted at home.
Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 05:04 PM (/9Tks)
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How was Unfrosted.

Posted by: WisRich at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (G0vdT)

298 My biggest complaint is Hamill's acting in the first one. He was a markedly better actor by the third.||

Only the most powerful actors in the world can be saved from Lucas' direction. That's why literally everyone but Alec Guinness and James Earl Jones' voice blows in the first movie, even though they showed their chops elsewhere.

Hamill is just fine in "Corvette Summer" (with Annie Potts). As Harrison Ford said, "You can write these lines, George, but you can't read 'em!"

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (asXVI)

299 >>So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Sound of Freedom. Also the best movie I've seen in many years prior to seeing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (LkLld)

300 The spectacle is part of the package. Again, the film is not good, but the spectacle is something within the package of the film that is worthwhile.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Spectacle (per Aristotle) is part of the package, but only part.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (Be/+i)

301 Y'all know why the first SW trilogy was so good , right ? His editor - Marcia Lucas. His wife.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (V13WU)

302 Lucas should have stopped after Star Wars or, released them in order not 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (w0gh0)

303 A man who was arrested for allegedly kidnapping a teenager and repeatedly raping her in his basement had been previously arrested 52 times, according to Illinois police.

Cook County prosecutors said 48-year-old Derek Swift drove up to the 15-year-old girl on Dec. 6 while she was walking to her home in Chicago.

--

Seems like there's a couple of other elements to this story.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (uo86X)

304 That's Lucasfim and Marvel.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (OUMaO)

Yeah - it's the rich dude's LLC mentality vs a public company he ought to be accountable but could give a crap less about - "hey, so it loses money! Write it off thru your LLC's like me!" says the wealthy buffoon in six separate ownership LLC's.

And you? the little guy? You're selling at a loss and can't make next week's mortgage - Iger could give a shit less...

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (K+UlC)

305 300 The spectacle is part of the package. Again, the film is not good, but the spectacle is something within the package of the film that is worthwhile.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Spectacle (per Aristotle) is part of the package, but only part.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (Be/+i)

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And I never said it was all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (GBKbO)

306 Forgot my footnote.

* Actually, TJMP and I seem to agree on almost everything. It's a little spooky.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (asXVI)

307 At least he wasn't a Mexican, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (uo86X)

308 DIS parks are seeing slowdowns.
Rumors are that discounts are rising.
Rides are out of order.
More people out there are starting to hate the Mouse.
Cap spending on Disney World (the prime profit center) is low, compared to cap spending on overseas properties.

PLUS, Universal is eating Disney's lunch in Orlando.

Their cruise lines are doing very well.

Bottom line, profitability will be weak until they start making fundamental changes.

The reduction in new IP (movies, series) is a start of this change (stopping some of the crazy spending). They need to start making shit people want to see.

There is potential, but they need to change.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 05:11 PM (ufFY8)

309 306 Forgot my footnote.

* Actually, TJMP and I seem to agree on almost everything. It's a little spooky.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM (asXVI)

========

We could be real friends.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:11 PM (GBKbO)

310 Secret Service ‘Must Provide Protection’ to Trump If He’s Jailed: Spokesperson

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 05:11 PM (RHGPo)

311 I challenge anyone to name a Harrison Ford movie where he smiles or laughs. And that shitty smirk and sarcastic chuckle doesn’t count. He’s got resting man bitch face.

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 05:11 PM (MNhXM)

312 FBI Confirms It’s Restarting Online Censorship Efforts Ahead Of 2024 Election

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 05:11 PM (RHGPo)

313 I'm sure they'll settle and continue doing it, but just once I hope for ruinous penalties.

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Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (IG4Id)

314 Isn’t it a well established rumor that Bob Iger wants to run for president?

How much of this woke nonsense is just to help him in a Democrat Primary?

So who cares if investors lose billions, it gives Iger his street cred.

Posted by: Benchmark at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (E9hJx)

315 If you want to see Ridley Scott do the Napoleonic era, watch "The Duellists."
Posted by: Captain Obvious
__________

Hell yes. Harvey Keitel.

The movie is based on a book by Conrad, which is also very good.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (Dm8we)

316 Heh

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Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (LkLld)

317 Once they broke up...well, you see what happened. There is a theory that the following trilogy is his personal story. He went where Marcia could not follow....I was not a fan of 1-3 , but rewatching now, with all the drek that came since, I am ok with it. Lame dialogues aside. The world building is exceptional.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (V13WU)

318 naturalfake

Also loved Tokyo Vice. They were smart not to drop all the episodes on one day.

And Godzilla Minus One was great too.

I think Asia has not sunk into self-loathing and is producing good, classical movies.

Posted by: PJ at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (G1dq6)

319 And I never said it was all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM

You know what else you haven't mentioned in this Thread?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (a3Q+t)

320 Y'all know why the first SW trilogy was so good , right ? His editor - Marcia Lucas. His wife.||

Yes, but not JUST his wife. He had a team of people who would push back in the first movie, and the second he left mostly alone (so he could focus on the "Star Wars Holiday Special"), but by the third, his ewok-squeezin-happy-meal-stuffin' fingers are all over it.

It's a shame, really. The guy's a hell of a producer. If he had just been willing to let other people shine, that could've been a classic series instead of a flash-in-the-pan.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:13 PM (asXVI)

321 You know what else you haven't mentioned in this Thread?

==

The Devil Wears Prada ??

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 05:13 PM (V13WU)

322 And I never said it was all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 05:10 PM

You know what else you haven't mentioned in this Thread?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (a3Q+t)
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Penguins?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:13 PM (Be/+i)

323 Only the most powerful actors in the world can be saved from Lucas' direction.

I remember being completely surprised by Hayden Christiansen’s performance in Shattered Glass, given his “performance” in Attack of the Clones.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 08, 2024 05:14 PM (EXyHK)

324 Never was a big Star Wars or Star Trek fan. What I have learned though is that females much prefer Star Wars over Star Trek. Anecdotal and Observation based.

Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 05:14 PM (MNhXM)

325 Posted by: polynikes at May 08, 2024 05:11 PM (MNhXM)

"Witness".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 05:14 PM (XkYcA)

326 57m
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (LkLld)

So, scorpion/frog thing? Aesop fable in real time...

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (K+UlC)

327 He's so gone. This is a farce of a sham.

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CNN is done carrying water for Biden.
twitter.com/JammieWF/status/1788313158756491329
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 05:03 PM (IG4Id)
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Nothing is showing up on his twitter post?

Posted by: WisRich at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (G0vdT)

328 willowed *(dealing with transient landscapers):

They tore down the American Flag and replaced it with a Palestinian flag.
They tore down the American Flag and replaced it with a Palestinian flag.

800 'Profs' wrote a letter in approval.
800 'Profs' wrote a letter in approval.

*when they come to your door tell them to go away

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (lCWOD)

329 Yes, but not JUST his wife. He had a team of people who would push back in the first movie, and the second he left mostly alone (so he could focus on the "Star Wars Holiday Special"), but by the third, his ewok-squeezin-happy-meal-stuffin' fingers are all over it.

It's a shame, really. The guy's a hell of a producer. If he had just been willing to let other people shine, that could've been a classic series instead of a flash-in-the-pan.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:13 PM (asXVI)

sure, there were others, like Kasdan who directed..well , maybe he'll be back

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (V13WU)

330 I was not a fan of 1-3 , but rewatching now, with all the drek that came since, I am ok with it.
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7-9 make 1-3 look like Fritz Lang.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (Be/+i)

331 Lucas not Kasdan...

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (V13WU)

332 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

lesse...

It was the Spy X Family movie.

It was good not great. However-

Have you ever attended something like a movie, and about half-way thru you suddenly realize that you don't want to be associated at all with the other people attending that same movie?

Yeah, like that. Everyone else besides the elegant and sophisticated Mrs naturalfake and myself was cooing like little children over the little cute things, and practically crying when the dog didn't get restaurant food, and repeating the Japanese onomatopoeia words back to the screen and giigling about it. Talking thru the whole thing natch.

And these were folks in their mid 20s to 40s. Yikes.

Anyway....that made me aware that I have to...uh...reevaluate my choices.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (eDfFs)

333 Spectacle (per Aristotle) is part of the package,

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My definition of a great movie is that it must be eye-popping, mind-blowing, and heart-tugging.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (L/fGl)

334 How was Unfrosted.
Posted by: WisRich at May 08, 2024 05:09 PM (G0vdT)

I found it mildly amusing and inoffensive. Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 08, 2024 05:16 PM (DR8fH)

335 I remember being completely surprised by Hayden Christiansen’s performance in Shattered Glass, given his “performance” in Attack of the Clones.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 08, 2024 05:14 PM (EXyHK)
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He was also good in "Gosford Park." The whole cast was stellar in that one.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 05:16 PM (Be/+i)

336 >>So, scorpion/frog thing? Aesop fable in real time...

Literally the least suprising thing I've read in days. It was also be completely ignored by the pro Hamas caucus while they whine about Israel preventing aid from getting to civilians.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2024 05:17 PM (LkLld)

337 ||I think Asia has not sunk into self-loathing and is producing good, classical movies.||

This is why I go see Korean flicks. Makes me proud to be Korean. (Shut up. I could pass. I just have to lose a hundred pounds, tan, and get some eye surgery. And shave...shit, I probably need laser this face hair off...)

But you know what? It's exclusively the west and primarily the US. The British and French don't have it this bad.

What kills me is Russia. Russia will make a movie about WWII-pride and never even mention they were on the Nazi's side.

|| We could be real friends.

"I regret that we meet in this way. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend."

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:17 PM (asXVI)

338 So what was the last movie anyone went to a theater to see?

Posted by: Auspex at May 08, 2024 04:42 PM (j4U/Z)

"Triumph Of The Will"

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at May 08, 2024 05:17 PM (d9fT1)

339 || Russia will make a movie about WWII-pride and never even mention they were on the Nazi's side.

I mean, you come out of "T43" with just "God (or Stalin or Marx, whavever) bless Mother Russia!"

Sucks that every American movie has to have some covert if not overt anti-America message.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:19 PM (asXVI)

340 Makes me proud to be Korean. (Shut up. I could pass. I just have to lose a hundred pounds, tan, and get some eye surgery. And shave...shit, I probably need laser this face hair off...)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:17 PM (asXVI)

I knew a few Korean chicks in college who were total smokeshows, and rather skilled at some things....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 05:19 PM (d9fT1)

341 Yeah DIS is enjoying the benefits of a grossly overvalued market. It will come to a bad end.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 08, 2024 05:19 PM (wBaIH)

342 #BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza
Posted by: JackStraw

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 05:19 PM (w0gh0)

343 That's funny that Hamas would rocket the gift horse in the mouth.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:19 PM (fwDg9)

344 Hamas wants the world to burn, because they believe they will be standing when the fire is finally out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2024 05:20 PM (d9fT1)

345 >>>Nothing is showing up on his twitter post?
Posted by: WisRich at May 08, 2024 05:15 PM (G0vdT)

Yeah, I saw nothing as well.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2024 05:20 PM (q177U)

346 There are still a lot of grown damned men that love star wars sexually. Now I'm an engineer and am used to being exposed to a steady stream of nerds. But just today I heard some young intern give a presentation talking about himself and how into star wars he was.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 08, 2024 05:20 PM (Y6IkP)

347 It's a shame, really. The guy's a hell of a producer. If he had just been willing to let other people shine, that could've been a classic series instead of a flash-in-the-pan.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:13 PM (asXVI)

A flash-in-the-pan that's still selling toys and getting argued over 45 years later?

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 05:20 PM (B9Dv5)

348 #BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza
Posted by: JackStraw

They're applying peer pressure.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 05:21 PM (L/fGl)

349 nood

Posted by: banana Dream at May 08, 2024 05:21 PM (Y6IkP)

350 @297 How was Unfrosted

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Amusing, but it felt more silly than funny. Also, about the only thing historical in the entire movie was probably a factoid at the end of the movie about Amy Schumer's character. Apparently the former female CEO of Post used to own Mar a Lago.

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2024 05:22 PM (/9Tks)

351 Heh
@IsraelWarRoom
57m
#BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza
Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (LkLld)
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Blind man in Philly saw that coming.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 08, 2024 05:22 PM (3ImbR)

352 326 57m
#BREAKING: Hamas recently launched two rounds of rocket fire at the American-made humanitarian aid pier for Gaza
Posted by: JackStraw
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Doing the job so IDF doesn't have to. I hope they blow the whole thing up. It's not my place to say that they don't deserve to live but I will say they should all be shipped to Egypt and let al-Sisi determine what should be done with them.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:23 PM (lCWOD)

353 naturalfake

Also loved Tokyo Vice. They were smart not to drop all the episodes on one day.

And Godzilla Minus One was great too.

I think Asia has not sunk into self-loathing and is producing good, classical movies.
Posted by: PJ at May 08, 2024 05:12 PM (G1dq6)

Yeah, over there. They all mostly love their countries and believe in them.

Korea has really come to the fore as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2024 05:23 PM (eDfFs)

354 Nothing is showing up on his twitter post?
Posted by: WisRich

Sorry, it was the post above that one:

twitter.com/TheKevinDalton/status/1788308597757419595

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 05:24 PM (IG4Id)

355 I knew a few Korean chicks in college who were total smokeshows, and rather skilled at some things....||

I did not realize until late in life that I wasn't attracted to Asian girls so much as Korean girls.

||A flash-in-the-pan that's still selling toys and getting argued over 45 years later?||

YOU HEARD ME!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at May 08, 2024 05:24 PM (asXVI)

356 Blind man in Philly saw that coming.
Posted by: IrishEi
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I thought it would be IDF frogmen but they probably knew the Gazans would take care of it.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:25 PM (lCWOD)

357
@TheKevinDalton 19m
CNN is done carrying water for Biden.
twitter.com/JammieWF/status/1788313158756491329
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Nothing is showing up on his twitter post?
Posted by: WisRich

Try this:

https://tinyurl.com/4fasrtct

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 05:25 PM (63Dwl)

358 Is there a situational comedy show that makes fun of the ass kissing North Koreans?
If not, I'll become a producer.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 08, 2024 05:25 PM (J8LnB)

359 I thought it would be IDF frogmen but they probably knew the Gazans would take care of it.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:25 PM (lCWOD)
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Just too irresistible a target.

I just don't want a single drop of American blood to be shed.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 08, 2024 05:28 PM (3ImbR)

360 Try this:

https://tinyurl.com/4fasrtct
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Not that 'they're done carrying the water for Biden'
It's they are pulling the plug on Biden.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:28 PM (lCWOD)

361 Remember this Hamas suppy pier was not going to have any American on the ground

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:29 PM (fwDg9)

362 She's a 1.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:29 PM (lCWOD)

363 Star Trek >>>>>>>>>>> Star Wars.

Yes

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 08, 2024 05:30 PM (iNp3L)

364 What's the downside for Bob Iger? If Disney makes lots of money, he gets paid millions. If Disney loses lots of money, he gets paid millions. If Disney wakes up and fires his ass, he gets paid millions to go away. Besides, he is only waiting around for 2026 when he will start running for President. He just needs to keep on the correct side of the Super-leftists in California until then.

Posted by: JB1000 at May 08, 2024 05:30 PM (sF2Vq)

365 I did not realize until late in life that I wasn't attracted to Asian girls so much as Korean girls.

Same here. Had a Korean gf who was quite attractive.

Unfortunately Korean girls, as a group, have a deficit in trustworthiness.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2024 05:32 PM (B9Dv5)

366 Hamas is out to destroy the USA of they could. Or will when they get here thanks to the Sundowner/ Barky administration

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 05:33 PM (fwDg9)

367 Disney bought too much into the 'VAST UNTAPPED FEMALE MARKET' crap.

They bought Star Wars and Marvel brands because their public image was too 'princess-centric' (to use the words of their own brand managers).

They bought Marvel and then Star Wars specifically because they wanted boy franchises.

And then they let the woke activists turn them into female-centric nonsense, which have been abandoned by the vast majority of male fans. And even after their female-centric nonsense, a movie like The Marvels STILL HAD MORE MALE VIEWERS THAN FEMALE VIEWERS.

They drank the Kool-Aid that was being pushed at the time. They went after both movies and video games trying to claim that there was this vast untapped marked of women that just needed to be catered to, to DOUBLE THE AUDIENCE.

Of course anybody in the actual communities knew that was crap from the start, but the entire reason it worked was because the suits in charge of these franchises are not actual consumers of the content they produce.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 08, 2024 06:08 PM (AjL/0)

368 >The magic of both Star Wars [...] was that they took something that was inherently childish and silly and gave both a small dose of plausibility

There's an interesting theory that the reason the 1977 Star Wars was such an international phenomenon was that it came out at a time when the US' self___ had suffered body-blow after body-blow: Vietnam, stagflation, malaise, police corruption, Watergate, etc., etc. Star Wars was a simple tale of good guys vs. bad guys, it was family friendly, you knew who the good guys and bad guys were and you were encouraged to cheer the good guys and boo the bad guys. America needed that and latched on to it. So the theory goes, had Star Wars come out at any other time it would have disappeared without notice because it is, really, just a mid-budget space pulp serial.

I think there's a lot of merit to the theory and as further evidence note how much money Top Gun: Maverick made despite being a fairly silly remake of the original.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at May 09, 2024 12:24 AM (0Go0g)

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