Ukranian Troll Farm Employee Confesses: I Was Paid to Inject Pro-Ukraine Propaganda Into American Social Media. But For Some Reason, We Were Told to Propagandize for Joe Biden.

She suspects that this troll farm was funded by the CIA, which would mean the CIA was running yet another psyop targeting the citizens of the United Fucking States who pay these scumbags their salaries.

Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0
BREAKING: CIA Operates Troll Farms in Kyiv to Influence American Voters and To Assure Biden's 2024 Win.
A former employee of one of the Kyiv troll factories owned by the head of Zelensky's office, Andriy Yermak, spoke about how the interference in the upcoming American elections is taking place in Ukraine with the help of the CIA. According to the source, the purpose of the interference is to ensure Biden's victory over Trump. A former employee showed a video taken inside a troll factory, as well as several photos, guidelines and a list of accounts that trolls use to influence the American voters.
"Long story short we were asked to do everything to prevent Donald Trump from winning the elections. So basically, this topic was added to our main lines of work.
Since then, each of us had to post at least 3 to 5 posts daily posing as the Americas and Europeans, criticizing Donald Trump and praising Biden.
The Americans have even organized a few lectures for us to get a better understanding of American politics, the American mindset the main social and political issues.
Then we were occupied with the topics for the job which sounded like this:
1.Unlike Trump, Biden is a smart and experienced politician.
2. Unlike Trump, Biden will never betray NATO partners. Trump will alienate our partners.
3. Biden will not abandon Ukraine. Biden will protect democracy, while Trump is Putin's puppet.
I honestly tried to convince myself it's Okay since Biden is clearly a better option for Ukraine, but it was just too much for me... One thing is to work for the best interests of my country, but interfering in US politics is a whole other thing."

Here are some posts one of the trolls: pic.twitter.com/AWKQRuU5eu
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) April 25, 2024

I heard this on Jimmy Dore. The Ukranian trolls were posting positively about Joe Biden's position on transgenderism. Weird, huh?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:20 PM

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1 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2024 01:21 PM (Wnv9h)

2 First, comrade!

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 02, 2024 01:21 PM (vtyCZ)

3 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (Wnv9h)

4
Kiev.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (MzbCS)

5 close!

Posted by: DanMan at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (8uzBS)

6 She suspects that this troll farm was funded by the CIA, which would mean the CIA was running yet another psyop targeting the citizens of the United Fucking States who pay these scumbags their salaries.

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I hope we get a letter from Grassley about this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

7
#FJB

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (xG4kz)

8 You are guilty of crimes against the Workers, RedMindBlueState, and my First reinstated.

And comrade sea otters called!

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (vtyCZ)

9 Sid? Blago? You there?

Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM (DKHqY)

10 spoke about how the interference in the upcoming American elections is taking place in Ukraine with the help of the CIA.

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Sure, but that's GOOD interference because it stops populism. Or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men: "Men like these things" Women: "No, you're wrong" at May 02, 2024 01:23 PM (YsjiM)

11 She suspects that this troll farm was funded by the CIA, which would mean the CIA was running yet another psyop targeting the citizens of the United Fucking States who pay these scumbags their salaries.
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And which legally is forbidden from operating on American soil.

The IC is thoroughly post-law now. Most of the government is to some degree, but in the IC it is total.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:23 PM (HnUIn)

12 The IC is the enemy of the American people.
Purge them or kneel to them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:23 PM (xcxpd)

13 ... The Americans have even organized a few lectures for us to get a better understanding of American politics, the American mindset the main social and political issues.
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Of course. Every company trains its workforce.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:23 PM (HnUIn)

14 4. No more drama!

Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (DKHqY)

15 What the hell is a troll farm? And what's the pay like?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (DRSnL)

16 Seriously, I think the United States can survive without spy agencies. I don't think it will survive with them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (xcxpd)

17 Slight modification. Also the punctuation is wreaking havoc.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men- "Men like these things" Women- "No, you men are wrong" at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (YsjiM)

18 Yet people still think the Left is super divided and ready to let go of the levers of power? To throw (however little of) it back to Trump?

Reminds me of the people who insisted repeatedly that Biden and Kamala were going away. Do you see them going away yet?

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (ekpFK)

19 16 Seriously, I think the United States can survive without spy agencies. I don't think it will survive with them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (xcxpd)

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But then China will steal American IP!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (GBKbO)

20 The overlords are such benevolent people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (R4t5M)

21 No one will ever hear about this... At least not from the MSM

Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (Akjoo)

22 You are guilty of crimes against the Workers, RedMindBlueState, and my First reinstated.

And comrade sea otters called!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 02, 2024 01:22 PM

*slowly rotates selector switch to FAFO*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (Wnv9h)

23 I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (MaPMa)

24 18 Yet people still think the Left is super divided and ready to let go of the levers of power? To throw (however little of) it back to Trump?

Reminds me of the people who insisted repeatedly that Biden and Kamala were going away. Do you see them going away yet?
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (ekpFK)

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I think my favorite scenario that I have invented in my head is the left being unable to come up with the right amount of cheat for any reason and then calling for a do-over election because the election results can't be trusted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

25 I honestly tried to convince myself it's Okay since Biden is clearly a better option for Ukraine, but it was just too much for me... One thing is to work for the best interests of my country, but interfering in US politics is a whole other thing."
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Oy vey.

Forgive me for going out on a limb and making assumptions, but this sounds rather a lot like, "I did bad things that I knew at the time were bad because thought it served my interests and the ends justified the means. It turned out that far from serving my interests, it got my country invaded and my countrymen killed and so now I will lament in public."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (HnUIn)

26 Reminds me of the people who insisted repeatedly that Biden and Kamala were going away. Do you see them going away yet?

The prediction was usually that they'd do the switch at or after the convention. That isn't until August.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (CsUN+)

27 And which legally is forbidden from operating on American soil.

Our contractors never set foot on American soil! And we promise they'll stop posting after they get airlifted as refugees to the United States.

Posted by: The CIA at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (pEcHx)

28 She suspects that this troll farm was funded by the CIA, which would mean the CIA was running yet another psyop targeting the citizens of the United Fucking States who pay these scumbags their salaries.

Thank goodness none of this came out before Congress was able to re-authorize and fully fund all of the anti-American elements of the US government.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (IUd0M)

29 So who goes to jail for these illegal campaign contributions made illegally by Gov't agencies on behalf of the current corrupt administration?

Yeah, I crack myself up.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

30 Says hi to ace. Sees even if he notices different with sharon involved s

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (Os74q)

31
What the hell is a troll farm? And what's the pay like?
Posted by: Jordan61

Its denizens spend all day on line trolling by shitposting on those sites whose viewpoints are deemed by your bosses as not being "of the body".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (xG4kz)

32 Here are some posts one of the trolls:
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I've seen 'em all. Saw 'em all at the time. My assessment then remains true: the left can't meme.

That it was paid for with my money is just icing on the cake.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (HnUIn)

33 The cool people come right out and say Ukraine sucks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (YsjiM)

34 >>BREAKING: CIA Operates Troll Farms in Kyiv to Influence American Voters and To Assure Biden's 2024 Win.

I guess we now know where at least some of the freakin' Billions being sent to Ukraine is being spent, and why it was so very important to pass the latest ~~Biden campaign~~ Ukraine funding, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (cCVOS)

35 Added benefit of using Ukrainians in your troll farms: they're several hours closer in time than India is to the US!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (wtvvX)

36 Salami Ukulele!

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (aJLEr)

37 What are the odds Blago shows up for this thread?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (2UnvF)

38 Old MacDonald had a farm. C I C I A

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (63Dwl)

39 None of things are even true about Biden. He’d sell out Ukraine as soon as it’s beneficial for him.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (JTwsP)

40 I'm shocked that I'm not shocked by this Ukrainian's allegations.

Not really, I believe there are no depths to the dishonesty of spies and politicians, repub and dem.

Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (VGOMa)

41 (He would have to woth all the typos)

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:27 PM (Os74q)

42 But then China will steal American IP!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (GBKbO)

Instead of having it gifted to them?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:27 PM (xcxpd)

43 >>>15 What the hell is a troll farm? And what's the pay like?

1. This site.

2. It's not good.

Posted by: ace at May 02, 2024 01:27 PM (KRtlO)

44 How you gonna keep them down on the Macedonian Content Farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:27 PM (aJLEr)

45 I'd dismiss this out of hand, except, I no longer believe the CIA serves anything but itself.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 02, 2024 01:27 PM (tT6L1)

46 Congress will probably react to this by forwarding a bill that makes it illegal to type the letter "U".

Posted by: banana Dream at May 02, 2024 01:27 PM (Y6IkP)

47 This person is probably paid by Russia to say this.

/s

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (sv929)

48 Well, Trump told Johnson to give Biden all the Ukraine money he needs.

Eventually, Trump will stand up to the deep state, I just know it.

Posted by: Benchmark at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (RKkAM)

49 I think my favorite scenario that I have invented in my head is the left being unable to come up with the right amount of cheat for any reason and then calling for a do-over election because the election results can't be trusted.

I think that's almost a certainty at this point. They won't necessarily call for a do-over, because (hopefully) the GOP would use that as a reason to call for massive upgrades in election security, which the left does not want. But they'd use accusations that the election was fraudulent to justify throwing sand in the gears of Trump II.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (CsUN+)

50 Forgive me for going out on a limb and making assumptions, but this sounds rather a lot like, "I did bad things that I knew at the time were bad because thought it served my interests and the ends justified the means. It turned out that far from serving my interests, it got my country invaded and my countrymen killed and so now I will lament in public."
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Even a person posting this with motives of not being punished for what they did is doing a good thing. Public repentance and repudiation, whether real or not for the person, is preferable to them keeping silent. Confession is good for the soul regardless of the motive.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (peJ7P)

51 The Ukrainian troon had switched back again IIRC.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (cf/0E)

52 Ukranian Troll Farm Employee Confesses: I Was Paid to Inject Pro-Ukraine Propaganda Into American Social Media. But For Some Reason, We Were Told to Propagandize for Joe Biden.

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HAHAHAHAH!! tell me again about glorious Uke victories Uke democratic values, and the ghost of Kiev!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (V13WU)

53

What a surprise.

Posted by: four seasons at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (PisyI)

54 I'm shocked that I'm not shocked by this Ukrainian's allegations.

Not really, I believe there are no depths to the dishonesty of spies and politicians, repub and dem.
Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (VGOMa)
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Two decades ago: This is unthinkable and CIA needs to be purged from the top
One decade ago: This is outrageous and the people running this op need to be fired
Five years ago: Yeah, sounds about right
Today: Sure, sure. No question. After all, they've been doing this shit for decades.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (HnUIn)

55 It's always bizzare when one notices its paid for propaganda from our own government. t

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (Os74q)

56 Why is the CIA pretending that the election isn’t rigged? That’s what I’d like to know.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (JTwsP)

57 52 HAHAHAHAH!! tell me again about glorious Uke victories Uke democratic values, and the ghost of Kiev!
Posted by: runner at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (V13WU)

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Russia was so ill-equipped that Ukraine steam-rolled to Moscow with tanks made of digital American dollars over a year ago.

Russia fell. The war is over. It's old news.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

58 Troll farming is easy. Anyone can be a troll farmer.

Posted by: Mike Bloomberg at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (XUJ4L)

59 So. The Ghost of Kiev wasn't real?

Is that what you are telling me?

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (aJLEr)

60 I think my favorite scenario that I have invented in my head is the left being unable to come up with the right amount of cheat for any reason and then calling for a do-over election because the election results can't be trusted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Far likely a repeat of 2020 in which election officials and governors just rewrite election law on the fly because OrAnGe MaN bAD~! The courts just let it go without any push back, so why bother with a new kind of fraud?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (IG4Id)

61 And which legally is forbidden from operating on American soil.

The IC is thoroughly post-law now. Most of the government is to some degree, but in the IC it is total.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:23 PM (HnUIn)

Ah, but they're not operating on US soil. They're operating on Ukrainian soil. Total coincidence that Americans see this stuff. We've added a new training module to troll training. -- CIA

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (IUd0M)

62 CIA Operates Troll Farms in Kyiv to Influence American Voters and To Assure Biden's 2024 Win

Sorry. I'm on Team America. I want both to lose.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (+98Vn)

63 Are the trolls in the room with us now?

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (as3uC)

64 Even a person posting this with motives of not being punished for what they did is doing a good thing. Public repentance and repudiation, whether real or not for the person, is preferable to them keeping silent. Confession is good for the soul regardless of the motive.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (peJ7P)
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I don't disagree. I'd just like to see some exposure happen *before* the op is broken at some point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (HnUIn)

65 I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
Posted by: She Hobbit

Your winnings, Ma'am.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (9yWhg)

66 60 Far likely a repeat of 2020 in which election officials and governors just rewrite election law on the fly because OrAnGe MaN bAD~! The courts just let it go without any push back, so why bother with a new kind of fraud?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (IG4Id)

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I just said it was my favorite. I didn't say that I thought it was at all likely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

67 What the hell is a troll farm? And what's the pay like?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (DRSnL)

How many hryvnia does a tube of monkeypox salve cost? Because it's that much per week.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (0l8OY)

68 hello willow!

Posted by: ace at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

69 Russia was so ill-equipped that Ukraine steam-rolled to Moscow with tanks made of digital American dollars over a year ago.

Russia fell. The war is over. It's old news.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

the only thing left is Uke parade in the Red Square

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (V13WU)

70 My assessment then remains true: the left can't meme.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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Maybe this explains it -- they can't meme because they are all foreigners with poor grasp of the culture and language doing it for money.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (sv929)

71 Ah, but they're not operating on US soil. They're operating on Ukrainian soil. Total coincidence that Americans see this stuff. We've added a new training module to troll training. -- CIA
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (IUd0M)
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It was an op targeting Americans. Not permitted. Not that it matters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (HnUIn)

72 What the hell is a troll farm? And what's the pay like?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (DRSnL)

1. I assume they grow those dolls with the stupid hair.
2. You don't have to join the Ukrainian army.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (IUd0M)

73 quick, send them some more billions of tax dollars

if you object you must be a russian puppet and hate freedom

Posted by: brak at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (AR07F)

74 Trump going wussy on the JFK stuff strikes again.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (Z8Yh2)

75 People keep trying to find the source, the central point of the movement to destroy this country.

Is it universities? The media? Democrat Party? Foreign agents?

At this point I just assume it's the CIA, and they make most of the rest of those entities dance to their tune, one way or another.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (dGCAG)

76 That candid camera interview where a CIA operative said they were part of pushing families to sue Alex Jones is maybe the most disturbing thing I’ve heard the cia engaging in when it comes to domestic politics.

Really hope discovery shines a light on this if true.

Posted by: Benchmark at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (RKkAM)

77 Sean Connery explaining what he thinks of women is not funny by itself.
Sean Connery, completely relaxed while Barbara Walters winds up more and more is hysterical.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (cf/0E)

78 Maybe this explains it -- they can't meme because they are all foreigners with poor grasp of the culture and language doing it for money.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (sv929)
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The trolls were writing the posts, but I doubt they were making the memes. CIA graphics guys were probably doing most of it if I had to guess (and I do, not having any direct knowledge).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (HnUIn)

79 Are the trolls in the room with us now?
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (as3uC)

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Well, TJM is here...

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (DRSnL)

80 79 Are the trolls in the room with us now?
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (as3uC)

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Well, TJM is here...
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (DRSnL)

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I've never denied it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

81
What the hell is a troll farm? And what's the pay like?

1. This site.

2. It's not good.
Posted by: ace

Yes, this is the Endorian Troll Farm

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (xG4kz)

82 26 Reminds me of the people who insisted repeatedly that Biden and Kamala were going away. Do you see them going away yet?

The prediction was usually that they'd do the switch at or after the convention. That isn't until August.
Posted by: Archimedes

Doesn't work well if their alternatives are polling about as poorly as FJB. Mooch and Newsome were two trial ballons that worked about as well as a lead zeppelin (homage to Keef Moon btw).

(Jimmy) Page says Moon fathered Led Zeppelin's name: "It was a name that Keith Moon had mentioned back then. He was talking, 'Wouldn't it be fun to have a band called Led Zeppelin?'"

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:31 PM (peJ7P)

83 Trump going wussy on the JFK stuff strikes again.

If you aren't a troll, then take the time to post a link so people know wth you're talking about.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (CsUN+)

84 Funny how everything is upside down from my youth when CIA were the bad guys in Hollywood movies but we all thought they were the good guys. Now the left and Hollywood love the CIA and we hate them for being the bad guys. It also shows that Hollywood has not been on the peoples' side for decades.

Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (unUNN)

85 >>At this point I just assume it's the CIA, and they make most of the rest of those entities dance to their tune, one way or another.

The State Department has been trying to undermine the Constitution for decades.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (aJLEr)

86 Troll farming is easy. Anyone can be a troll farmer.
Posted by: Mike Bloomberg

I prefer being a lead farmer.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (+98Vn)

87 Willow?!!!

Hey, good to see you, kiddo. Miss you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (xcxpd)

88 Tee hee!

Posted by: Speaker MAGA Mike at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (Hn5Yb)

89 The CIA is as right-wing as you can get. Took out Jimmy Carter, ran Iran Contra through their puppet, Reagan, and ran guns to right-wing death squads in South America. Why would they help President Biden? It is to laugh.

Posted by: Sid at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (5OhfB)

90 The State Department has been trying to undermine the Constitution for ~~decades~~ centuries.
Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (aJLEr)
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FIFY

State broke first, and almost immediately.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (HnUIn)

91 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (HnUIn)

While still claiming that the person most responsible for the likely end of Ukraine is, somehow, better for Ukraine.

Blink twice if you're being held captive.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (IUd0M)

92 Are the trolls in the room with us now?
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 02, 2024 01:29 PM (as3uC)

Tap once on the ceiling for no, tap twice for yes...

*tap tap*

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (dGCAG)

93 The prediction was usually that they'd do the switch at or after the convention. That isn't until August.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:25 PM (CsUN+)

Revising history a little. The people I'm referring to have been predicting his removal or otgerwise since *before* he won the nomination in 2020. Remember how he would never even make it to a debate?

Others have been contradicting it all along. The others have been right for four years.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (ekpFK)

94 Yes, this is the Endorian Troll Farm
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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Well, when you put it that way, I am outta here.

Just more proof that the Internet Is Dead Thesis is correct.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (peJ7P)

95 I don't know how much of what that CIA guy told O Keefe was true, or a bit of truth sprinkled with disinformation. I don't trust it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (3CVIc)

96 Ukranian Troll Farm Employee Confesses: I Was Paid to Inject Pro-Ukraine Propaganda Into American Social Media. But For Some Reason, We Were Told to Propagandize for Joe Biden.
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So that guy who says everything is fake and gay, everything is an op...is 100% right?

Sure seems that way.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (FCbAQ)

97 Has the CIA ordered their Ukie troll farms to switch to spreading anti-Israeli propaganda in the US? If not, ValJar and the self-hating Jooos in the Junta are off their game for some reason.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (5fDan)

98 >>Sean Connery explaining what he thinks of women is not funny by itself.
Sean Connery, completely relaxed while Barbara Walters winds up more and more is hysterical.

That's because, while this was happening, Sean Connery was leaking out of her vag and running down he thigh.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (aJLEr)

99 The worst part of that troll farm is how shitty their trolls and memes were. It's like not one second of thought went into any of them. They might as well just have repeated "ORANGE MAN BAD" over and over.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

100 Yup. Whatcha gonna do about it?

Posted by: CIA at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (Yg/ZT)

101 The prediction was usually that they'd do the switch at or after the convention. That isn't until August.
Posted by: Archimedes

Doesn't work well if their alternatives are polling about as poorly as FJB. Mooch and Newsome were two trial ballons that worked about as well as a lead zeppelin (homage to Keef Moon btw).

I didn't say it was a GOOD strategy.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (CsUN+)

102 Posted back on Apr 25th, I see. I wonder how long she's been dead?

Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (5IEcl)

103 Posted by: Sid at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM

Shut up, the adults are talking.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (dGCAG)

104 Posted by: Sid at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (5OhfB)

========

1. All of those events are decades ago.
2. You're really kind of dumb.
3. Why did Democrats go full fascist in 2009 to pass the ACA, a giant payout to Big Insurance Companies, rather than socialist by passing Single Payer with 60 senators?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

105 While still claiming that the person most responsible for the likely end of Ukraine is, somehow, better for Ukraine.

Blink twice if you're being held captive.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (IUd0M)
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I read it as "at the time" based on how it is written - that at the time, he thought Biden was better for Ukraine.

Two very different interpretations. I have no idea which is correct.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (HnUIn)

106 Posted by: Sid at May 02, 2024 01:32 PM (5OhfB)

LMAO I don't know if there ever was a real sid or not but whoever you are I love these.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (ekpFK)

107 Yeah but these are ETHICAL troll farms! They're all free-range trolls!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (wtvvX)

108 IIRC, this is exactly what they accused Trump of doing in the Russia Collusion special investigation, right?

Yes: https://tinyurl.com/2mwc3xkb

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (cCVOS)

109 A million Chinese trolls, in just one city, pounding away on cloned PC's... laugh at Ukraine's "troll farm."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (Q4IgG)

110 Omgoodness! Ace I missed you . Hope all things in your life are wonderful. Missed you. Still laugh at how you fave me a beat down when we met.
Srsly want only everything for you for your courage in less than courageous times.

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (Os74q)

111 I've seen 'em all. Saw 'em all at the time. My assessment then remains true: the left can't meme.

That it was paid for with my money is just icing on the cake.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (HnUIn)

Yup, I've seen all that stuff "naturally" and even pointed to it as examples of the left being unable to meme. Known DNC paid spokesliars also were sometimes posting the exact same things.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (2ocoG)

112 The CIA ran a public ad for recruits featuring a bunch of blue haired, pierced, obese face tattooed young people.
Sounds real conservative, right?
They are advertising for misfits.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (MeG8a)

113 Everything is An Op until proven otherwise beyond a shadow of a doubt. Even then, it's probably still An Op.

Posted by: ballistic at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (oqH4h)

114 Joe Biden mine much potassium. Joe Biden potassium is best potassium.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (3CVIc)

115 This is my shocked face

Oops sorry that was my O face

Now this is my shocked face

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (5C4od)

116 You're still the bomb.

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (Os74q)

117 (Jimmy) Page says Moon fathered Led Zeppelin's name: "It was a name that Keith Moon had mentioned back then. He was talking, 'Wouldn't it be fun to have a band called Led Zeppelin?'"

I'd always assumed "going over like a lead balloon" was a purely American saying. I guess not.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)

118 Posted back on Apr 25th, I see. I wonder how long she's been dead?
Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (5IEcl)

Let's ask Gina Haspel.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (dGCAG)

119 Not to worry. Now the troll farms are funded by Congress. So CONGRESS is paying for Biden's campaign advertising.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (iFMeW)

120 Troll farms are much superior to Yooper farms.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (9yWhg)

121 Yes, this is the Endorian Troll Farm
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Endora!
Mother!
Posted by: The Darrin & Samantha Stevens

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (+98Vn)

122 >>Everything is An Op

Psyop Kitty doesn't lie.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (aJLEr)

123 The trolls were writing the posts, but I doubt they were making the memes. CIA graphics guys were probably doing most of it if I had to guess (and I do, not having any direct knowledge).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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Oh, so I was wrong. I am sure the CIA graphics guys are professional comedians and very funny. Sorry.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (sv929)

124 How is this CIA-funded Ukraine troll farm legal?

WASHINGTON – The Justice Department’s special counsel announced the indictment Friday of a notorious Russian troll farm – charging 13 individuals who allegedly were involved in a scheme to criminally interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

The Internet Research Agency, which is based in St. Petersburg, Russia, was named in the indictment.

“From in or around 2014 to the present, defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the grand jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016,” the indictment states. . .

Every dang thing they accuse Trump of doing they've been doing themselves.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (cCVOS)

125 Yet people still think the Left is super divided and ready to let go of the levers of power? To throw (however little of) it back to Trump?

Reminds me of the people who insisted repeatedly that Biden and Kamala were going away. Do you see them going away yet?
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (ekpFK)

Does it make you feel good to tell people that everything is doomed and surrender is the only option? I mean, the endorphins for you to do that must be enormous to counteract the "I have failed" meme it must generate with ever post.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (D7oie)

126 Well, Trump told Johnson to give Biden all the Ukraine money he needs.

Well, lots of media outlets who don't support Trump have certainly said so.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (IUd0M)

127 Snakeoil peddlers did this 150 years ago.

Posted by: Eromero at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (o2ZRX)

128 Sid, you should look into AI to up your game.

Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (5IEcl)

129 Outrageous!!!!
Our angry letter to the deputy assistant director of the CIA will be scathing. Please send $50!!
-GOP

Posted by: Montec at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (Y6Wgg)

130 Biden is not better for Ukraine. He's using the war for political purposes. Trump, I believe, would try to get some sort of agreement between the two.

Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (Akjoo)

131 That's because, while this was happening, Sean Connery was leaking out of her vag and running down he thigh.
Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM

* shrieks *

Say it isn't so!

Posted by: Alex T.'s mom at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (a3Q+t)

132 I expect that Trump will be kinder to Ukraine than they deserve.

Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (unUNN)

133 The CIA ran a public ad for recruits featuring a bunch of blue haired, pierced, obese face tattooed young people.
Sounds real conservative, right?
They are advertising for misfits.

They're advertising for people they can blackmail.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (2ocoG)

134 so this is sid and paul's coming out party?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (nXhwP)

135 So a professional troll only has to make 3-5 posts a day? I would have expected something like 10-20 per hour. Sounds like a pretty cushy job.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (/y8xj)

136 Reminds me of the people who insisted repeatedly that Biden and Kamala were going away. Do you see them going away yet?
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (ekpFK)

Same people who have been convinced Biden would have a stroke on live TV for the past 5 years.

Posted by: Montec at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (Y6Wgg)

137 Remember kids! Whatever the demoncrats accuse you of doing, it's just projection.

Posted by: Kestrel.987 at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (wyl5F)

138 The CIA ran a public ad for recruits featuring a bunch of blue haired, pierced, obese face tattooed young people.
Sounds real conservative, right?
They are advertising for misfits.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (MeG8a)
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When I was in college, the CIA recruiters on campus did performance art instead. Dudes in black suits and wearing earpieces would skulk around in the shadows and hand out little recruitment cards to some of the passers-by (I have no idea what their criteria were). Sometimes, they'd do shit like execute a shoulder-roll from behind a fountain or other hiding place, pop up in front of you, and give you a recruitment card.

They were, just like today, selling an image of the CIA to aid recruitment. It was just a different image.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (HnUIn)

139 Blinken twice if you're in danger

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (YsjiM)

140
Troll farm woman
I'll be your hired hand
Troll farm woman
I'll let my offer stand
Troll farm woman
Don't you hear my keyboard clacking
Click clack click clack

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (0l8OY)

141 "Well, lots of media outlets who don't support Trump have certainly said so."

Step 1: Johnson passed the Ukraine funding.
Step 2: Trump did a photo op with Johnson.

But, we have to recognize that Trump probably was given bad advice to do so by the deep staters he constantly surrounds himself with.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (iFMeW)

142 They are just a bunch of zealous patriots who are only guilty of loving their country too much.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (3CVIc)

143 I honestly tried to convince myself it's Okay since Biden is clearly a better option for Ukraine, but it was just too much for me... One thing is to work for the best interests of my country, but interfering in US politics is a whole other thing.

Any bets this guy very soon dies of a "sudden illness"

Posted by: Chuck C at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (yOPBE)

144 @6

>>I hope we get a letter from Grassley about this.

All of the money the CIA gets is black book so, Grassley can ask for all of the accounting he wants, the CIA is going to bring him into a SCIF and show him what's what.

As was noted, the only way any of this changes is if their are leaders who are willing to be Sic Semper Tyrannised.

Anything less is masturbation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (XV/Pl)

145 Don't forget the lovely Ms. Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent.

Funny, that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (YsjiM)

146 Water is dry

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (63Dwl)

147 Oh, so I was wrong. I am sure the CIA graphics guys are professional comedians and very funny. Sorry.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (sv929)
++++
LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (HnUIn)

148 In other news, Nine Toe Sheila is back at Dumb Deacon's, eating pizza and drinking water in a fluffy bathrobe.

Meanwhile,Stuffy Steffy is being catty with Interesting Aussie Ivy, because Ivy is sniffing around Puppy Dig Liam. At least her dress is slinky, and her small boobs are nearly falling out, so...

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (ufFY8)

149 128 Sid, you should look into AI to up your game.
Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (5IEcl)

And Valtrex. AI and Valtrex, but mostly Valtrex.

Posted by: Sid is Gay at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (XUJ4L)

150 Same people who have been convinced Biden would have a stroke on live TV for the past 5 years.

I was never one of those. They are distinct sets, with a bit of overlap.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (CsUN+)

151 The Democrats Propaganda Ministry is really reaching out to everyone to do their dirty work

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (fwDg9)

152
Damnit. Don't the Ukes know that they can't influence American elections. Only WE can influence American elections!

Posted by: The United Kingdom at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (n+4am)

153 I have a dream to one day see bureaucrats hanging from streetlights all along the beltway.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (1bNHn)

154 Revising history a little. The people I'm referring to have been predicting his removal or otgerwise since *before* he won the nomination in 2020. Remember how he would never even make it to a debate?

Others have been contradicting it all along. The others have been right for four years.
Posted by: ...

I can understand part of it--my mother has vascular dementia along with some Alzheimers. Dementia that is predominately Alzheimers has a relatively short period before a person is no longer able to function. Vascular dementia is more focused on specific brain regions and common among those with heart and stroke problems---you can last for years with that sort of dementia because it doesn't progress at the same rate that the more generalized Alzheimer appears too.

Right now, mother is going on five years with that sort of dementia predominating. It does take something more than the quickie type of testing to indicate and requires an expensive PET scan to more or less confirm the diagnosis. Neither vascular or Alzheimers is curable so generally docs don't make the effort. It does mean that some drugs that work well with Alzheimers alone don't work with those with vascular.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (peJ7P)

155 At this point I just assume it's the CIA, and they make most of the rest of those entities dance to their tune, one way or another.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (dGCAG)

It's probably the RNC honestly. Wouldn't *that* be something.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (ekpFK)

156 I just said it was my favorite. I didn't say that I thought it was at all likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Fair enough. Ok, how about the Feebs arresting every red state election official under VRA grounds and asking the DOJ to adjust the election results? Man, there are so many avenues of pseudo-law that can be employed before they just cancel the election. Heck, why not insert 3rd party ballot oversight that delays all GOP voting districts until Jan. 21st.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (IG4Id)

157 I just find it funny that Ukraine is still coming to the US and NATO for supporting. They had our support when they lost the Crimea. They had it now that they’ve lost 1/5th of their country.

Smart Ukrainians would be beefing for us to stop “helping” them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (JTwsP)

158 If you want to score a job in the CIA straight out of college, you better to go an Ivy.

They've recruited almost exclusively from the Ivies since Wild Bill Donovan created the OSS. It's always, at its core, been a club for the scions of the elites. The difference is that back in the day, being the son of a millionaire with a Harvard education at least had the chance at giving you a leg up in the world. Now the entire university system is nothing more than a credentialing facility for these same kids, but now they're all dumb and useless.

Posted by: ballistic at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (oqH4h)

159 "He's using the war for political purposes."

In all fairness, so is Zelensky.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (Ectld)

160 Mark all goodness hoping for you.

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (Os74q)

161 In other news, Nine Toe Sheila is back at Dumb Deacon's, eating pizza and drinking water in a fluffy bathrobe.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (ufFY8 )

=====

What happened to her 10th toe?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (DRSnL)

162 145 Don't forget the lovely Ms. Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent.

Funny, that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I never found her particularly lovely nor appealing.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (peJ7P)

163 Has the CIA ordered their Ukie troll farms to switch to spreading anti-Israeli propaganda in the US? If not, ValJar and the self-hating Jooos in the Junta are off their game for some reason.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2024 01:33 PM (5fDan)

I realize there are a lot of people jumping in and out of bed with each other on these matters, so I don't know if anyone really has a clear read on whose side the Deep State is on, with regards to Israel.

Is it a money laundering scheme? Almost certainly.

Are they wanting disorder in the Middle East to continue? Almost certainly.

Do they hate the Palis as much as anyone else, and hope they die? Almost certainly.

So then, where does the conflict come in? Seems to me it's at the point of the politicians, rather than the bureaucrats, so I'm guessing the bureaucrats are gonna win, and any worries anyone has that the U.S. of A. won't keep pumping money into Israel is probably overblown.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (dGCAG)

164 But $100,000 in Facebook ads bought by Russia "hacked our election" in 2016.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (yikga)

165 150 Same people who have been convinced Biden would have a stroke on live TV for the past 5 years.

I'm guilty. I was sure he'd kick the metaphorical bucket in his first year

Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (Akjoo)

166 Gonna find out Harry Sisson is a fat, 50 year old ukranian dude.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (3CVIc)

167 They were, just like today, selling an image of the CIA to aid recruitment. It was just a different image.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (HnUIn)
________

In 2030, they'll be showcasing agents having gay sex with each other in the quad.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

168 Seriously, I think the United States can survive without spy agencies. I don't think it will survive with them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:24 PM (xcxpd)

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CIA has not been right about anything that I can remember, they have been taken by surprise by every world crisis, the most notable being the fall of Soviet Union and 9/11. With that sort of record they are not needed and need to be abolished.

Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (unUNN)

169 I honestly tried to convince myself it's Okay since Biden is clearly a better option for Ukraine, but it was just too much for me... One thing is to work for the best interests of my country, but interfering in US politics is a whole other thing."

---------------

ONE PERSON with a conscience our of perhaps tens of thousands.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (2fIO4)

170 They're advertising for people they can blackmail.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (2ocoG)

Joke's on them. You can't blackmail people who have no shame.

Posted by: Emmie at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (Sf2cq)

171 Beefing, seriously, spell check thought the word was beefing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (JTwsP)

172 Go away Sid, try all you want there's no way you're pledging.

Posted by: Jugdesh at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (gKWVE)

173 Blinken twice if you're in danger
Posted by: Moron Robbie

(chuckles) I'm in danger.

Posted by: Ralph Wiggum at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (+98Vn)

174 The others have been right for four years.
Posted by: ...

Ellipsis for the win. It took me a long time to realize we have total control of Joe and/or he's fully cooperating. Some of the Left see it.

Posted by: t-bird at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (pJkex)

175 If you want to score a job in the CIA straight out of college, you better to go an Ivy.

They've recruited almost exclusively from the Ivies since Wild Bill Donovan created the OSS. It's always, at its core, been a club for the scions of the elites. The difference is that back in the day, being the son of a millionaire with a Harvard education at least had the chance at giving you a leg up in the world. Now the entire university system is nothing more than a credentialing facility for these same kids, but now they're all dumb and useless.
Posted by: ballistic at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (oqH4h)
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I wasn't at an Ivy, but there were CIA recruitment activities at my first college, which was the state university system's flagship campus. I don't doubt that they are very focused on the Ivies and other top elite institutions, but they clearly weren't opposed to recruiting out of state anchor schools (at least, they weren't at mine).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (HnUIn)

176 They're advertising for people they can blackmail.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (2ocoG)

On the other hand, highly unstable people can be useful.

Posted by: Emmie at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (Sf2cq)

177 156 I just said it was my favorite. I didn't say that I thought it was at all likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Fair enough. Ok, how about the Feebs arresting every red state election official under VRA grounds and asking the DOJ to adjust the election results? Man, there are so many avenues of pseudo-law that can be employed before they just cancel the election. Heck, why not insert 3rd party ballot oversight that delays all GOP voting districts until Jan. 21st.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (IG4Id)

=======

All good, but a do-over because the election results can't be trusted? *chef's kiss*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

178 I read it as "at the time" based on how it is written - that at the time, he thought Biden was better for Ukraine.

Two very different interpretations. I have no idea which is correct.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:34 PM (HnUIn)

Biden is better for *his* Ukraine - corrupt, run by literal Nazis and Nazi supporters, a tool of others. The Ukraine that is being shelled and missiled to pieces along with its people he cares nothing about. Trump wasn't going for the war with Russia game at all.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (eoQWY)

179 In 2030, they'll be showcasing agents having gay sex with each other in the quad.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (iFTx/)
++++
You think it'll take that long?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:41 PM (HnUIn)

180 @141

>>But, we have to recognize that Trump probably was given bad advice to do so by the deep staters he constantly surrounds himself with.

Seriously, what is Trump to do?

The GOP is mainly composed of treacherous, corrupt goofballs, overweening moralizers, closeted homosexuals, freaks, geeks, dog killers and other assorted flotsum and jetsum.

You send one packing and another simply rises to take their place like an unending human centipede of failure.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (XV/Pl)

181 What happened to her 10th toe?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (DRSnL)

She cut it off to fake her death.
The story was a bear ate her, except for the toe.

My word as a fashion cop.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (ufFY8)

182 Don't forget the lovely Ms. Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent.

Funny, that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (YsjiM)

Also William F. Buckley.

And either Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward. I forget which. I don't much care which, but one of them was/is.

Oh, and Bill Barr.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (dGCAG)

183 Don't forget the lovely Ms. Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent.

Funny, that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
--------

I never found her particularly lovely nor appealing.
Posted by: whig

--

YOU'RE ANTI-WOMEN!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (YsjiM)

184 On the other hand, highly unstable people can be useful.

That too.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (2ocoG)

185 CIA has not been right about anything that I can remember, they have been taken by surprise by every world crisis, the most notable being the fall of Soviet Union and 9/11. With that sort of record they are not needed and need to be abolished.

any politician who even tried would end up blackmailed out of that position or suicided, or both

Posted by: brak at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (AR07F)

186 Does it make you feel good to tell people that everything is doomed and surrender is the only option? I mean, the endorphins for you to do that must be enormous to counteract the "I have failed" meme it must generate with ever post.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (D7oie)

I don't preach doom. The opposite. I know we win in the end - although that might not be for some time.

(Please do your research before leveling a personal accusations - I got 2020 spectacularly wrong thinking they couldn't outcheat Trump's impending margin of victory even though they were going to try their damndest)

That all said I consider many people here my friends and forewarned is forearmed.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (ekpFK)

187 >>> I'd always assumed "going over like a lead balloon" was a purely American saying. I guess not.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)

They say "down a tin biscuit" but it means the same.

Posted by: banana Dream's untrue facts at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (Y6IkP)

188 Seriously, what is Trump to do?

The GOP is mainly composed of treacherous, corrupt goofballs, overweening moralizers, closeted homosexuals, freaks, geeks, dog killers and other assorted flotsum and jetsum.

You send one packing and another simply rises to take their place like an unending human centipede of failure.

The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (CsUN+)

189 The major aspect of this process is NOT the trolling substance. I brain damaged monkey could whip up this stereotypical nonsense.

The true purpose is to give the impression of mass. It is the door opener for election fraud so that when the guy in the oval office gets "81 Million votes" despite only a handful of people showing up at his campaign events, they can refer to the voluminous presence on the internet providing support. It's just a cog in the election fraud cycle. Bogus polls are also a part of this.

Posted by: Orson at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (dIske)

190 I'll have to expand my prior belief. The next Republican president should after getting undercovers and informants to safety, dump the entire FBI and CIA databases onto the web. Nuke it from orbit so to speak

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (JfVRc)

191 This pale, braided bikini brunette was recruited by the CIA, but she would rather go into a more wholesome business like being a pharmaceutical salesman:
http://tiny.cc/mowwxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (HnUIn)

192 180 Seriously, what is Trump to do?

The GOP is mainly composed of treacherous, corrupt goofballs, overweening moralizers, closeted homosexuals, freaks, geeks, dog killers and other assorted flotsum and jetsum.

You send one packing and another simply rises to take their place like an unending human centipede of failure.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (XV/Pl)

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Trump is playing the game of politics. He's a reformer, not a Cromwell. He's trying to bridge divides within the party, and Ukraine funding is SUPER important to a lot in the party. So, he backed them publicly.

Trump is not a wrecking ball, no matter the press. He wants to operate within the rules and play the game.

Look elsewhere for a Cromwell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

193 138 When I was in college, the CIA recruiters ... Sometimes, they'd do shit like execute a shoulder-roll from behind a fountain or other hiding place, pop up in front of you, and give you a recruitment card.

unnecessary action heroes!

Posted by: anachronda at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (v3pYe)

194 I have a dream to one day see bureaucrats hanging from streetlights all along the beltway.
Posted by: Eeyore

Some say we don't have enough streetlights.
Pshaw. We have National Forests. I'm more worried about running out of rope.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (+98Vn)

195 54 I'm shocked that I'm not shocked by this Ukrainian's allegations.

Not really, I believe there are no depths to the dishonesty of spies and politicians, repub and dem.
Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2024 01:26 PM (VGOMa)
++++
Two decades ago: This is unthinkable and CIA needs to be purged from the top
One decade ago: This is outrageous and the people running this op need to be fired
Five years ago: Yeah, sounds about right
Today: Sure, sure. No question. After all, they've been doing this shit for decades.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:28 PM (HnUIn)

Tomorrow: The CIA is doing this and this is GREAT!

Posted by: Inogame at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (53oGX)

196 At this point I just assume it's the CIA, and they make most of the rest of those entities dance to their tune, one way or another.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:30 PM (dGCAG)

It's probably the RNC honestly. Wouldn't *that* be something.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (ekpFK)

That would sorta be like the mafia don, who wandered around New York in his jammies, acting like he's an imbecile.

Was he really an imbecile, or a supergenius?

We don't know!!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (dGCAG)

197 CIA has not been right about anything that I can remember, they have been taken by surprise by every world crisis, the most notable being the fall of Soviet Union and 9/11.

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Because you're looking at it as an American that loves America and not someone who is trying to make world connections to benefit the agency.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (YsjiM)

198 She cut it off to fake her death.
The story was a bear ate her, except for the toe.

I'd heard it was a lion. Hence the expression "Toe the lion".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (CsUN+)

199 ... The true purpose is to give the impression of mass. It is the door opener for election fraud so that when the guy in the oval office gets "81 Million votes" despite only a handful of people showing up at his campaign events, they can refer to the voluminous presence on the internet providing support. It's just a cog in the election fraud cycle. Bogus polls are also a part of this.
Posted by: Orson at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (dIske)
++++
It needs to appear to be not only larger than it is, but unquestionably dominant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (HnUIn)

200 Thomas wh your bucket is full of crabs. How can one notice which is the unwholesome climber

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (Os74q)

201 I have hoped Sundowner would stroke out on live TV, but then Jimmy is disappointed me daily as well.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (fwDg9)

202 When I was in college, the CIA recruiters ... Sometimes, they'd do shit like execute a shoulder-roll from behind a fountain or other hiding place, pop up in front of you, and give you a recruitment card.

unnecessary action heroes!
Posted by: anachronda

The ambiguously gay duo?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (+98Vn)

203 I expect that Trump will be kinder to Ukraine than they deserve.
Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (unUNN)

That Hilary, to name but one, still draws breath suggests you are correct.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (IUd0M)

204 I heard this on Jimmy Dore. The Ukranian trolls were posting positively about Joe Biden's position on transgenderism. Weird, huh?

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I watch Jimmy Dore on YouTube, 90% of his stuff is anti-Biden and though he has to constantly say he doesn't like Trump he sees someone getting railroaded and comes across that Trump is far better than Biden though he can't say that for some reason.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (2fIO4)

205 Two C-eye-A stories in one day.

I smell fear.

Posted by: Reforger at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (7N/Zu)

206 Katy Tur flubbed the response. So in steps the MSNBC recovery team:

First, Biden does, in fact, deserve credit. Hardly anyone expected the U.S. economy to be this strong, for such a sustained period, when the Democratic incumbent was first inaugurated, but the White House’s economic agenda has produced impressive results. Indeed, the United States has seen the strongest post-pandemic economic recovery on the planet thanks in large part to the success of Biden’s policies.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (3CVIc)

207 The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.

Like Tillerson?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (/y8xj)

208 Sure puts a new light on why the left was so insistent Musk continue to give them free Starlink, doesn't it?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (yikga)

209 @180

I don't care what Trump is to do at this point. The discussion is moot. I'm not making excuses for weak politicians who make decisions and then blame others when they turn out poorly. Just quit pretending every fact that paints Trump in a bad light is someone else's fault. We're all grown ups here who have to take responsibility for our lives. I think the president should have to act like it.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (Ectld)

210 117 (Jimmy) Page says Moon fathered Led Zeppelin's name: "It was a name that Keith Moon had mentioned back then. He was talking, 'Wouldn't it be fun to have a band called Led Zeppelin?'"

I'd always assumed "going over like a lead balloon" was a purely American saying. I guess not.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Lot of American sayings and culture were exported to the UK during WWII and during the post Cold War aftermath due to GIs.

The early British invasion groups were pretty much UK yute's reaction to American blues, jazz, and rock.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (peJ7P)

211 I never found her particularly lovely nor appealing.
Posted by: whig

As a kid in the early 70s, I thought she was pretty. Long blonde hair and glasses, like the girl I had my first crush on in 7th grade.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (9yWhg)

212 Katy Tur flubbed the response. So in steps the MSNBC recovery team:

First, Biden does, in fact, deserve credit. Hardly anyone expected the U.S. economy to be this strong, for such a sustained period, when the Democratic incumbent was first inaugurated, but the White House’s economic agenda has produced impressive results. Indeed, the United States has seen the strongest post-pandemic economic recovery on the planet thanks in large part to the success of Biden’s policies.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:45 PM (3CVIc)
++++
LOL. Is that true? Is this out of the same group that always "corrects" or "clarifies" Biden's statements?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:46 PM (HnUIn)

213 The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (CsUN+)

The business community that can't stop talking about gay shit, thinks trans marketing is great, and depicts every white guy as being married to black women who know best in commercials?

Posted by: If Corporate America is the Answer ... at May 02, 2024 01:46 PM (XUJ4L)

214 I realize there are a lot of people jumping in and out of bed with each other on these matters, so I don't know if anyone really has a clear read on whose side the Deep State is on, with regards to Israel.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:39 PM (dGCAG)

The Deeps are by no means monolithic so you shouldn't look at them that way. Tons of people and NGOs and UN commissions have made tons of money taking aid and diverting it to weapons and fortifications and doing nothing for Gazans. Other tons of people have made money and kickbacks and favors by shunting stuff in Israel's direction. Each clique has entrenched into the deep state a group of ranking bosses that coordinate it - just like Ukraine with Newland and the fat colonel who tried to get Trump impeached.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 01:46 PM (eoQWY)

215
I'm guilty. I was sure he'd kick the metaphorical bucket in his first year
Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (Akjoo)

But you are willing to revise any stance with the appearance of new information instead of trebling down. Except honestly the guy could go at any time, I'm more referring to people insisting he will be taken out by his own party.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:47 PM (ekpFK)

216 I knew people at UVa who when into the CIA. Including one really cute girl. (She didn't age well, though. A friend, after a reunion party, said we should think of her as the Studebaker stock we didn't buy.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 02, 2024 01:47 PM (1bNHn)

217 I hope you understand that the internet has to be destroyed, or this nation will perish, and all of us with it.

We can't stop our enemies (including our own government) from using it as a weapon against us.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 02, 2024 01:47 PM (w6EFb)

218 The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (CsUN+)
++++
That's why they had to ruin so many Trump associates. Make it clear that if you work for Trump on any terms other than theirs, they will destroy you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:47 PM (HnUIn)

219
interfering in US politics is a whole other thing."

===========

Srsly, what "whole other thing"? Like it's wrong? Dangerous? I'm not detecting a conscience in this person.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 01:47 PM (T3es0)

220 Trump could hire from us. We know how to stop leaks, from "whistleblowers" anyway

Posted by: Boeing at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (gKWVE)

221 But you are willing to revise any stance with the appearance of new information instead of trebling down. Except honestly the guy could go at any time, I'm more referring to people insisting he will be taken out by his own party.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:47 PM (ekpFK

I think if there is anyway they could they would

Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (Akjoo)

222 2 Bureaucracies enter, one Bureaucracy leaves.

Posted by: Tina in Chain Mail at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (PMJuY)

223 Zero surprise at all. No wonder this admin has such a hard-on for throwing our money at Ukraine.

Posted by: Yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's verified fact at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (Wc83a)

224 When I was in college, the CIA recruiters on campus did performance art instead.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (HnUIn)

I knew someone once who almost worked for the CIA as a secretary. She went in for the "skills" test - which was just typing but, before they started they were told "no talking in this room". Okay, she took the test, all the people were filing out, someone asked her the time... she told them and wasn't hired.

They want people who will follow orders slavishly. They get to think as they get higher in the org.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (IUd0M)

225 Surprise how dozens of Cultural Marxists Seminaries are all on Hamas' side and for killing Israel

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (fwDg9)

226 RIBBED SURE BUT I HAVE YET TO WITNESS
..The others shits ad.itting to their role in the fall of america

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (Os74q)

227 Ha, flashback of Nine Toe Sheila getting captured by doppelganger Ten-Toed Sheila ( "Sugar"), now croaked, before she went off to kill Stuffy, but Stuffy whacked her.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (ufFY8)

228 The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.

Like Tillerson?

Again, I didn't say it was a GOOD strategy. Anyway, the problem may have been Trump's need for "loyalty", which led him to make bad hires of people who stroked his ego, but who stabbed him in the back after that. I'm not trying to start another war with the OTers, but come on, that was a problem for him.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (CsUN+)

229 197 CIA has not been right about anything that I can remember, they have been taken by surprise by every world crisis, the most notable being the fall of Soviet Union and 9/11.

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Because you're looking at it as an American that loves America and not someone who is trying to make world connections to benefit the agency.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (YsjiM)
______________________

Essentially, the analyst desks in the intelligence agencies are "manned" by the same ilk teaching college courses at places like Columbia University. That was one of the first "March through the Institution" targets.

Posted by: Orson at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (dIske)

230 Don't forget the lovely Ms. Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent.

Funny, that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:38 PM (YsjiM)

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Who said that?

Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (unUNN)

231 CIA has not been right about anything that I can remember, they have been taken by surprise by every world crisis, the most notable being the fall of Soviet Union and 9/11. With that sort of record they are not needed and need to be abolished.
Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:40 PM (unUNN)

This is a view that fundamentally misses the point of the CIA.

The CIA's cover was to engage in covert ops around the globe, to protect American interests, and influence foreign entities to side with the U.S. of A.

That was what people thought their job was. That wasn't their job. Their job was to control and influence the American people, to protect deep pocket entities, and keep the bureaucracy running and the money flowing, without politicians being able to get in their way.

And when a politician tried to get in their way, or some American citizen got too uppity?

Put a patsy in a window, or in a hotel hallway, and bang. Problem solved.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (dGCAG)

232 Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:37 PM (iFMeW)

You've convinced me. I'm voting for RFK.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (IUd0M)

233 192 180 Seriously, what is Trump to do?

The GOP is mainly composed of treacherous, corrupt goofballs, overweening moralizers, closeted homosexuals, freaks, geeks, dog killers and other assorted flotsum and jetsum.

You send one packing and another simply rises to take their place like an unending human centipede of failure.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2024 01:42 PM (XV/Pl)

========

Trump is playing the game of politics. He's a reformer, not a Cromwell. He's trying to bridge divides within the party, and Ukraine funding is SUPER important to a lot in the party. So, he backed them publicly.

Trump is not a wrecking ball, no matter the press. He wants to operate within the rules and play the game.

Look elsewhere for a Cromwell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Based on past actions, I would agree with both astute analyses.

But, at a certain point, even Cromwell was a politician until he became a somewhat reluctant dictator.

Politics is always the art of the possible and expecting virtuous politics at the highest level is about like expecting chastity in a whorehouse.

People that are ideologues are always disappointed in political processes.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (peJ7P)

234 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:46 PM (HnUIn

As jobs soar under Biden, Trump claims ‘the job numbers are fake’
May. 2, 2024, 1:20 PM EDT

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (3CVIc)

235 I pretty much figure anyone whom I don't know well that goes about asking me certain questions is actually interrogating me, albeit softly. I've been around spooks. This is typical spy craft 101.

It's amazing O'keefe manages to snag some of the very people who should know better.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (Q4IgG)

236 As a kid in the early 70s, I thought she was pretty. Long blonde hair and glasses, like the girl I had my first crush on in 7th grade.

BIG concurrence.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:50 PM (CsUN+)

237 I heard this on Jimmy Dore. The Ukranian trolls were posting positively about Joe Biden's position on transgenderism. Weird, huh?

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I watch Jimmy Dore on YouTube, 90% of his stuff is anti-Biden and though he has to constantly say he doesn't like Trump he sees someone getting railroaded and comes across that Trump is far better than Biden though he can't say that for some reason.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (2fIO4)

It's the first, second and third rail for the reality based leftists who break with the woke. Can't be seen as a Trump supporter or you are dead.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 01:50 PM (eoQWY)

238 Who said that?
Posted by: Decaf

She did herself in an interview a while back.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:50 PM (peJ7P)

239 Some say we don't have enough streetlights.
Pshaw. We have National Forests. I'm more worried about running out of rope.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 01:44 PM (+98Vn)

Rope is reusable. Very eco-friendly

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (FCbAQ)

240 A Cromwell seems like too much to ask for. I would settle for a Milei

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (5C4od)

241 If Trump wins these federal bureaucrats are going to sabotage him worse than ever before.

He's going to have to clean house, but it's going to be almost impossible to get rid of all these creeps.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (NpAcC)

242 And when a politician tried to get in their way, or some American citizen got too uppity?

Put a patsy in a window, or in a hotel hallway, and bang. Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC

Or a slow-moving car in Dealey Plaza.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (9yWhg)

243 When their minions show up here making excuses, this place gives them a ration of shit, too. How long did we talk about McCain's death year and that porker daughter of his?

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (Ectld)

244 @188

>>The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.

Actually, on the whole, Trumps picks were solid, he tried to go outside the box with Tillerman for SOS, as well as others, but ultimately the most consequential picks were circumscribed by who the Senate would allow to be confirmed.

If he gets another shot, basically he's got to pull the first 100 names out of the phone book as appointments, at lease he'll have a 50/50 shot at not getting a backstabbing POS in a position.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (XV/Pl)

245 The idea was that he would recruit from different pools, e.g. the business community.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (CsUN+)

The business community that can't stop talking about gay shit, thinks trans marketing is great, and depicts every white guy as being married to black women who know best in commercials?

I think most of us have been unpleasantly surprised at what has happened to business execs in the last few years. Sure, maybe they were lying before about their proclivities, but I sure didn't think they'd become what they have.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:52 PM (CsUN+)

246 from the troll:

"I honestly tried to convince myself it's Okay since Biden is clearly a better option for Ukraine, but it was just too much for me... One thing is to work for the best interests of my country, but interfering in US politics is a whole other thing. "

killing off half the men in your country is a good option then.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 02, 2024 01:52 PM (B1FKF)

247 she did some work for the national students association in vienna, I rather doubt it came to much,

Posted by: no 6 at May 02, 2024 01:52 PM (PXvVL)

248 235 I pretty much figure anyone whom I don't know well that goes about asking me certain questions is actually interrogating me, albeit softly. I've been around spooks. This is typical spy craft 101.

It's amazing O'keefe manages to snag some of the very people who should know better.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Secret Kings of the gamma subtype are always glad to post about their 'wins' and 'importance'. Same for lambdas which is why both are security risks regardless of their iq.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:52 PM (peJ7P)

249 I think if there is anyway they could they would
Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (Akjoo)

Maybe. But they lifted him up knowing what he was. And doesn't the fact that his family seems to "coincidentally" be the political epicenter of foreign corruption (notably Ukraine) give you pause?

JB is a made guy - and quite clearly still under their thumb. He can't even speak out against people who openly want to kill Jews. He's basically Obama but with more brains.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:52 PM (ekpFK)

250 Who said that?
Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (unUNN)
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She did.

What is often missed, or mischaracterized, however, is the work she did as a CIA agent: Steinem was a spook.

CIA agents are tight-lipped, but Steinem spoke openly about her relationship to The Agency in the 1950s and ’60s after a magazine revealed her employment by a CIA front organization, the Independent Research Service.

While popularly pilloried because of her paymaster, Steinem defended the CIA relationship, saying: “In my experience The Agency was completely different from its image; it was liberal, nonviolent and honorable.”
https://tinyurl.com/bduhf8t7

She was a CIA asset working on American soil. Feminism's leading light was run as a part of series of ops rooted in studying the "land reform" movement in India. She was a revolutionary communist and peddled her communism dressed up as feminism (it's all feminism ever was) to destroy the bulwark against it: the family.

And she did it with active assistance from the CIA. On American soil. More than 60 years ago.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:53 PM (HnUIn)

251 People need to be hanged.

Lots of people.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 02, 2024 01:53 PM (BPIlW)

252 The Deeps are by no means monolithic so you shouldn't look at them that way. Tons of people and NGOs and UN commissions have made tons of money taking aid and diverting it to weapons and fortifications and doing nothing for Gazans. Other tons of people have made money and kickbacks and favors by shunting stuff in Israel's direction. Each clique has entrenched into the deep state a group of ranking bosses that coordinate it - just like Ukraine with Newland and the fat colonel who tried to get Trump impeached.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 01:46 PM (eoQWY)

I think that's an out of date perspective. That was to assume the State Department was operating its own Deep State op, as was the Justice Department.

While those entities are not completely dead, they are to a much greater extent than most people realize, controlled by Intelligence. They've been infiltrated and overrun, and the extent to which there appears to be dissention, it's either from people have didn't get the memo, or it's a way to keep everyone in the dark. In other words, the illusion of there being factions, is just another op.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (dGCAG)

253 The US government has become a domestic enemy. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Walks, looks, acts and quacks at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (Wc83a)

254 properly disgusted but not surprised, sadly specially after 2020 take Roger Goodell, and give him the old yella treatment,

Posted by: no 6 at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (PXvVL)

255 It's amazing O'keefe manages to snag some of the very people who should know better.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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One can't help but notice they're almost all flaming homosexuals.

Almost like obsessive deviant sexual behavior is a security risk or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (YsjiM)

256 Who said that?
Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (unUNN)

I think she did.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:55 PM (ekpFK)

257 >I expect that Trump will be kinder to Ukraine than they deserve.
Posted by: Decaf at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (unUNN)

The current US government has extended the war, bored the country hollow, and it will take longer to recover than Chernobyl. Anything would be kinder than that.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 02, 2024 01:55 PM (cf/0E)

258 Posted by: whig

Sorry to hear about your mother.
I understand it is very difficult as I have similar experience.
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I never thought Biden would make it this far.
Failure of imagination -- I could not imagine the country would allow this spectacle we see each time he steps in front of a camera. We have fallen, and he is our sad clown as symbol of that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:55 PM (sv929)

259 "The US government has become a domestic enemy. Prove me wrong."

Evil is a point of view, Anakin.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (iFMeW)

260 251 People need to be hanged.

Lots of people.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 02, 2024 01:53 PM (BPIlW)

#Truth

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (xcxpd)

261 She was a CIA asset working on American soil. Feminism's leading light was run as a part of series of ops rooted in studying the "land reform" movement in India. She was a revolutionary communist and peddled her communism dressed up as feminism (it's all feminism ever was) to destroy the bulwark against it: the family.

And she did it with active assistance from the CIA. On American soil. More than 60 years ago.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:53 PM (HnUIn)

If she's still alive, she's still an agent, and she's still doing it.

Nobody leaves the agency. Except in canoe accidents, and other such odd ways.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (dGCAG)

262 Someone please tell me again, what was Gloria Steinem's lifelong pursuit and social movement?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (YsjiM)

263 ... but they clearly weren't opposed to recruiting out of state anchor schools (at least, they weren't at mine).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Somebody has to do the 'work'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (50n2b)

264 A functioning justice system is a bullwork to this garbage. But hey, let's re-up FISA and give them more power.

Posted by: Roberto at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (rdhk2)

265 CIA -- Controlling and/or Destroying American Presidents since WW2.

Are they just the continuation of the Globalist Cabal?
Did we bring German PsyOp men into the fold after WW2? idk ... but they must be part of the border invasion, probably part of the Covid fiasco, perhaps in at least some ways part of standing down and watching 9/11 happen. Perhaps at the heart of the Global Warming Insanity.

Free People are their enemy ... they have their people placed in every group with influence, it would seem.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (Cus5s)

266 "I honestly tried to convince myself it's Okay since Biden is clearly a better option for Ukraine, but it was just too much for me... One thing is to work for the best interests of my country, but interfering in US politics is a whole other thing. "

killing off half the men in your country is a good option then.
Posted by: gnats local 678
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It is pretty stupid for Putin as well. Ukraine and Russia are not involved in an existential war and as always, the leaders benefit while the poor sobs in the front lines die or are horribly maimed for the rest of their life.

Same idiocy on a small scale for the US in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other shitholes around the world for muh New World Order.

It is stupid for nations involved with a declining birthrate to sacrifice one's best folks into the meat grinder of external war for the interests of the elites or a national leader. France, UK, Germany, never really recovered as a societies from that.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (peJ7P)

267 OT: Daughter has decided she's gonna make me an allergy-friendly Virginia Peanut Pie. Apparently, Virginia at some point decided to take a southern pecan pie recipe and use Virginia peanuts vs pecans. No idea how it will turn out (since vegan butter is gonna have to sub for butter), but that's on her to figure out...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (exHjb)

268 If she's still alive, she's still an agent, and she's still doing it.

Nobody leaves the agency. Except in canoe accidents, and other such odd ways.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (dGCAG)
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Doesn't matter anymore. She's to milquetoast for the modern variety. She did her job, wrecked what she could and set up her descendants to finish the job. Alive or dead, still an asset or cashiered, it doesn't matter. What's done is done.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (HnUIn)

269 Someone please tell me again, what was Gloria Steinem's lifelong pursuit and social movement?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Taking bicycles away from fish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (9yWhg)

270 And when a politician tried to get in their way, or some American citizen got too uppity?

Put a patsy in a window, or in a hotel hallway, and bang. Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC

Or a slow-moving car in Dealey Plaza.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:51 PM (9yWhg)

Right, yeah, I meant the patsy was in the window.

The actual killer might very well have been in the car behind.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (dGCAG)

271 re 244: as sir humphrey said, you must stand behind a man in order to stab him in the back

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (B1FKF)

272 The other funny thing was Steinem getting a scholarship or study grant to travel overseas that no one had ever gotten before or received afterwards.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (YsjiM)

273 SpaceX launch in about 40 minutes:
The 14-minute window opens at 11:36 a.m. PDT,
18:36 UTC, and 20:36 CEST.

https://www.youtube.com/live/q5hf7QpVB_w

Posted by: Ciampino - eye shut got now better at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (qfLjt)

274 Remember the leaked DNC email about "wet work" on the night of Scalia's tangle with Face Under Pillow Syndrome?

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (ekpFK)

275 255 It's amazing O'keefe manages to snag some of the very people who should know better.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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One can't help but notice they're almost all flaming homosexuals.

Almost like obsessive deviant sexual behavior is a security risk or something.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (YsjiM)

Men are very susceptible to the "honey trap" - that's why that technique became cliche...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (exHjb)

276 "But hey, let's re-up FISA and give them more power."

Another Bush implementation, by the way. Starting to see a pattern.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (Ectld)

277 Steinem was also a Playboy Bunny.

I wonder if Hef had some CIA involvement as well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (9yWhg)

278 There was a bit of talk about how biden was refusing arms to Ukraine in order to create a crisis to get the bill through, and possibly because blaming Trump polled really well.

This news has been almost completely squashed in the USA, but I wonder if Ukrainians are reporting how biden was holding back supplies for political reasons. That would bite hard, and explain this confession, I think.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (sv929)

279 Free People are their enemy ... they have their people placed in every group with influence, it would seem.
Posted by: illiniwek

They are losing by the day--their puppet media perverts are viewed with disdain by most of the population, their attempts to have the latest horrific anti science and anti people trannyism adopted as the peak of human society is dying, and the secret kings are making themselves despised by the left and right.

Ultimately, hubris meets nemesis every time.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (peJ7P)

280 Someone please tell me again, what was Gloria Steinem's lifelong pursuit and social movement?

Something about bicycles, wasn't it?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (sNc8Y)

281 Doesn't matter anymore. She's to milquetoast for the modern variety. She did her job, wrecked what she could and set up her descendants to finish the job. Alive or dead, still an asset or cashiered, it doesn't matter. What's done is done.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (HnUIn)

Well if you're saying she doesn't matter anymore, I guess.

But it's not like anything's changed. It's still an op. Whoever may have taken over her slot, the feminazi movement is still an op.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (dGCAG)

282 "I wonder if Hef had some CIA involvement"

The guy who invited all sorts of celebrities and famous people over for sexual trysts? That sort of stuff never happens in reality.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (Ectld)

283 But, at a certain point, even Cromwell was a politician until he became a somewhat reluctant dictator.

Politics is always the art of the possible and expecting virtuous politics at the highest level is about like expecting chastity in a whorehouse.

People that are ideologues are always disappointed in political processes.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 01:49 PM (peJ7P)

I think Cromwell was a soldier first and that led to the rest. Politicians worry about the opposition after the battle is done, I think Cromwell figured that wasn't particularly important next to winning.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (D7oie)

284 Again, I didn't say it was a GOOD strategy. Anyway, the problem may have been Trump's need for "loyalty", which led him to make bad hires of people who stroked his ego, but who stabbed him in the back after that.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2024 01:48 PM (CsUN+)

Maybe. Another possibility was that everyone he selected had to be approved by the Senate. The one controlled by McConnell. Who refused to go into recess because Trump would install the people he wanted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (IUd0M)

285 re 269: trying to convince women that happiness was over rated

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (B1FKF)

286 A willow sighting!

Hello!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (R1Ziy)

287 Steinem was also a Playboy Bunny.

I wonder if Hef had some CIA involvement as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (9yWhg)
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No clue. Maybe. Given that she was there on a sting targeting Hefner, possibly not. Hefner being in on it isn't out of the question, but I'd have trouble explaining why. If the CIA wanted "Playboy" to be successful - possible, I think - why send another asset in to write an expose about its poor labor practices?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

288 "Whoever may have taken over her slot"

Taylor Swift? Also, phrasing!

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (Ectld)

289 >>> Taking bicycles away from fish.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:57 PM (9yWhg)

I think that was her buddy Irina. Not that the poor fish cared.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (Y6IkP)

290
And when a politician tried to get in their way, or some American citizen got too uppity?

Put a patsy in a window, or in a hotel hallway, and bang. Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC

That's the parallax view of things.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (63Dwl)

291 277 Steinem was also a Playboy Bunny.

I wonder if Hef had some CIA involvement as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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It is well known that Hef has massive collection of blackmail tapes and his mansions were riddled with hidden recording cameras.

Kompromat makes the intelligence world go round essentially and they attack people based on sex or money as key vectors to compromise them.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (peJ7P)

292 Old Zelenskyy had a farm, ee, iii, eee, iii, Oh!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (8zz6B)

293 255 It's amazing O'keefe manages to snag some of the very people who should know better.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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One can't help but notice they're almost all flaming homosexuals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (YsjiM)
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And their lives seem so f--cking sad and pathetic. Meeting people in bars and bragging about how "inside" you are.
I lived in the DC area a bit and it was disgusting.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (sv929)

294 Steinem was also a Playboy Bunny.

I wonder if Hef had some CIA involvement as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (9yWhg)

Interesting question. And to ask is probably to answer.

Whether they had blackmail on him, or he was an active employee, he was almost certainly involved with them.

Because yeah, the manner in which Gloria became a bunny would indicate someone got her in, because it sure as hell wasn't her looks.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (dGCAG)

295 But it's not like anything's changed. It's still an op. Whoever may have taken over her slot, the feminazi movement is still an op.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (dGCAG)
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Oh yes. Feminism has been an op from day 1, and it has succeeded beyond anyone's wildest optimistic predictions. It may not even be a true op anymore. It became self-perpetuating by the 90s.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:02 PM (HnUIn)

296 Biden is not better for Ukraine. He's using the war for political purposes. Trump, I believe, would try to get some sort of agreement between the two.
Posted by: it's me donna at May 02, 2024 01:36 PM (Akjoo)

That ship has sailed. Aside from some rump regions near NATO, Russia will not end the war without all regions with significant Russian natives annexed or separated, including Odessa and the Donets basin under control. The shelling of the nuclear reactor repeatedly shows that. The West has already shown it can't be trusted in any way.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:02 PM (eoQWY)

297 191 This pale, braided bikini brunette was recruited by the CIA, but she would rather go into a more wholesome business like being a pharmaceutical salesman:
http://tiny.cc/mowwxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 01:43 PM (HnUIn)

killer body

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 02:02 PM (xcxpd)

298 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Thanks, Joe. I didn't know the background on the incident. I just remember seeing the pics of her in the Bunny outfit.

Not bad. Not as good as many of your girls, but not bad.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:03 PM (9yWhg)

299 And their lives seem so f--cking sad and pathetic. Meeting people in bars and bragging about how "inside" you are.
I lived in the DC area a bit and it was disgusting.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (sv929)
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You have to offer something.

If you can't offer looks, you offer money and power. If you can't offer money and power, you offer your *access* to power - that is, influence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:03 PM (HnUIn)

300 294 Steinem was also a Playboy Bunny.

I wonder if Hef had some CIA involvement as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 01:59 PM (9yWhg)

Interesting question. And to ask is probably to answer.

Whether they had blackmail on him, or he was an active employee, he was almost certainly involved with them.

Because yeah, the manner in which Gloria became a bunny would indicate someone got her in, because it sure as hell wasn't her looks.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (dGCAG)

The Playboy mansion was wired for sound and video. It was a blackmail op but on with a bitching magazine.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 02, 2024 02:03 PM (xcxpd)

301 Because yeah, the manner in which Gloria became a bunny would indicate someone got her in, because it sure as hell wasn't her looks.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:01 PM (dGCAG)
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Meh. She was cute enough to pull off the outfit.
http://tiny.cc/2qwwxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:04 PM (HnUIn)

302 If the CIA wanted "Playboy" to be successful - possible, I think - why send another asset in to write an expose about its poor labor practices?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Intel is often about the carrot and the stick. Steinem would be the stick to play ball or we can destroy you. Same as Hef being driven out of Chicago where he started due to risk of being prosecuted.

Intel is all about coopting and 'persuading' people to fall in with their wishes just like the local cops and Feebs rely upon. Do this, you get rewarded, do that and we lock you up and make sure that you are royally f...cked.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (peJ7P)

303 Miss nurse! Leader of the feminine strengthening. Hello beautiful

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (Os74q)

304 Feminism is so last decade. Women are back to being second class citizens, right where Democrats wanted them all along. Except now their tires are too worn to start families, and their bodies are wrecked from birth control anyway, so the joke is on them.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (ekpFK)

305 Intel is often about the carrot and the stick. Steinem would be the stick to play ball or we can destroy you. Same as Hef being driven out of Chicago where he started due to risk of being prosecuted.

Intel is all about coopting and 'persuading' people to fall in with their wishes just like the local cops and Feebs rely upon. Do this, you get rewarded, do that and we lock you up and make sure that you are royally f...cked.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (peJ7P)
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The web of blackmail, intimidation and power. It explains most of American government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (HnUIn)

306 Ukraine isn't going to "win."

They will only win like every other nation we give a shit ton of money to wins, they will suck our middle class dry while their elite get better vacation homes and FU money.

Fuck off, lefties.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 02, 2024 02:06 PM (JeYYB)

307 Serious question - have their been any studies on the link between prior use of certain birth control and autism in offspring? Talk about two things that rose fairly coincidentally...

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:06 PM (ekpFK)

308 305 The web of blackmail, intimidation and power. It explains most of American government.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (HnUIn)

=======

"I don't get it."
-Mike Johnson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

309 I regret that Ukraine got in bed with Biden. However, it looks like if you want to get anything done in Washington DC, you have to ally yourself with the Democrats. Republicans are pushovers, easily bribed, and practically don't matter. Democrats have a finger in every pie and require substantial bribes and concessions.
Just like US corporations, which have to openly side with the Democrats (DEI offices give them a cell in every organization or enterprise, like the communist party had and still has in e.g. China) or suffer the consequences (as shown by Musk and many others), Ukraine has seen the light. Biden's visit as vice-president must have helped.
I still hope that Trump wins, forms a cabinet with people suggested by DeSantis, and upends all these corrupt calculations --- or at least forms an even more efficient machine on the Republican side, if this is how the game must be played (but I'd rather he dismantles all these corrupt organizations).

Posted by: PG at May 02, 2024 02:07 PM (gQbO4)

310 ... They will only win like every other nation we give a shit ton of money to wins, they will suck our middle class dry while their elite get better vacation homes and FU money. ...
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 02, 2024 02:06 PM (JeYYB)
++++
Are they also called "dachas" in Ukrainian?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:07 PM (HnUIn)

311 And their lives seem so f--cking sad and pathetic. Meeting people in bars and bragging about how "inside" you are.
I lived in the DC area a bit and it was disgusting.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest
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We are in an era of disbelief in virtue so spilling the beans to get laid is perfectly inline with the people we now have in government office and related contractors.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:07 PM (peJ7P)

312 Steam was a strongman muse in how to wreck womanhood and our natural desire for personal strength. Why pay for the milk when it can be had for free..her motto

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 02:07 PM (Os74q)

313 Wow. So some of the same trolls who pose here as Republicans and Americans.

Posted by: Truthbomb at May 02, 2024 02:07 PM (oUoKb)

314 I hate typing or spellcheck.

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 02:08 PM (Os74q)

315 And what about certain birth control and homosexuality in offspring. Another two things that conveniently skyrocketed together.

Sorry I'm just spitballing.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:09 PM (ekpFK)

316 As bad as Gloria Steinem was, she was merely a prototype for a much crazier and more destructive feminazi product to come. Steinem was at least attractive, straight, generally positive in outlook, and despite her feminist politics, she didn't despise men.

Steinem was basically a straight-up communist using women as a Trojan Horse.

Her successors were the more modern and dangerous version of feminism: Radical left ugly dykes who hate the world and despise men. They want to see the world burn. I'll take a dozen Steinems over one of them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:09 PM (iFTx/)

317 262 Someone please tell me again, what was Gloria Steinem's lifelong pursuit and social movement?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:56 PM (YsjiM)

To destroy the family and turn men and women against each other.

Posted by: Just Lily at May 02, 2024 02:10 PM (1ey23)

318 No clue. Maybe. Given that she was there on a sting targeting Hefner, possibly not. Hefner being in on it isn't out of the question, but I'd have trouble explaining why. If the CIA wanted "Playboy" to be successful - possible, I think - why send another asset in to write an expose about its poor labor practices?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

They both had the same goal of dismantling the functional family with the "free love" bullshit.
They just came at it from different angles. They could have been on the same side.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 02, 2024 02:10 PM (FCbAQ)

319 + elric

Posted by: Willow at May 02, 2024 02:10 PM (Os74q)

320 Gloria Steinem was Christian Bale's stepmother for a time. I have.no idea how I know that

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2024 02:10 PM (JfVRc)

321 Too bad there is not an opposition party we could vote in which would put all of these CIA guys in prison for election interference.

Posted by: Thatch at May 02, 2024 02:10 PM (LLNW4)

322 Steinem was basically a straight-up communist using women as a Trojan Horse.

Her successors were the more modern and dangerous version of feminism: Radical left ugly dykes who hate the world and despise men. They want to see the world burn. I'll take a dozen Steinems over one of them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:09 PM (iFTx/)
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They're not meaningfully different. Feminism has been a revolutionary movement from the start. Steinem and her doctrinaire communism fit the bill in her era, the purple-haired monsters and their doctrinaire neo-Maoism fit the bill in theirs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (HnUIn)

323 Serious question - have their been any studies on the link between prior use of certain birth control and autism in offspring? Talk about two things that rose fairly coincidentally...
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:06 PM (ekpFK)

do you mean like the successful lawsuits over childhood vaccines and autism with the actual science following up the mechanism, leading to several studies following vaccinated and unvaccinated children and their autism?

No, I haven't seen any studies on birth control and autism, only studies looking for links between birth control and sterility.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (D7oie)

324 re mannix girl: looks like she got breast implants. not so pretty either, although she'd probably turn me down, even if i sneezed out ten dollar bills

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (B1FKF)

325 I've been thinking about Rob Reiner and his promise to set himself on fire if Trump gets reelected.
Is there any place I could send tinder?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (flRy+)

326 Almost like obsessive deviant sexual behavior is a security risk or something.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (YsjiM)

Men are very susceptible to the "honey trap" - that's why that technique became cliche...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 02, 2024 01:58 PM (exHjb)

If it's a feygelah, is it still a honey trap? Twinkie trap?

Posted by: Penis pitfall? Anal ambush? at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (Wc83a)

327 The web of blackmail, intimidation and power. It explains most of American government.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Pretty much society as well in corporations, ngos, etc. of any size. Sociopaths gravitate toward such and a dysfunctional society generates a lot of sociopaths.

You want virtue in government and the people, you have to have a relatively poor and homogeneous population that has natural borders and where the ambitious more or less have to live within the community so they can be 'touched' and live with what they do as policy.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:12 PM (peJ7P)

328 The Euro-weenies are super concerned about the carbon emissions from farms. They are shutting them down all over the continent. I think carbon from from trip farms.

Posted by: Roberto at May 02, 2024 02:12 PM (rdhk2)

329 Boner bait?

Posted by: Still spitballing. As it were. at May 02, 2024 02:12 PM (Wc83a)

330 If it's a feygelah, is it still a honey trap? Twinkie trap?
Posted by: Penis pitfall? Anal ambush? at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (Wc83a)
+++
Still a honeytrap, just the alternate us of "honey" as a euphemism for "shit" - as in, "honey bucket."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:12 PM (HnUIn)

331 I think that's an out of date perspective. That was to assume the State Department was operating its own Deep State op, as was the Justice Department.

While those entities are not completely dead, they are to a much greater extent than most people realize, controlled by Intelligence. They've been infiltrated and overrun, and the extent to which there appears to be dissention, it's either from people have didn't get the memo, or it's a way to keep everyone in the dark. In other words, the illusion of there being factions, is just another op.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 01:54 PM (dGCAG)

No, I think it is out of date to think of it as State vs IC vs DoD as monoliths. Each organization has cliques in it fighting for their ideas. State had the destroy Russia by Sanctions vs Newland's War with Russia crowd that had been arming Ukraine for a decade. Defense has always been more reluctant to see its toys exposed as vulnerable in modern war, but factions there pressed for the absurd "drive to the sea" offensive after giving Russia 6 months to build defenses. The offensive that didn't even *reach* those defenses.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:13 PM (eoQWY)

332 Does someone from MSNBC or CNN want to tell this Olyesa that it's pronounced, "KEEEEEEEEEEEVVVV!"

Posted by: Robert Denby at May 02, 2024 02:14 PM (/reaY)

333 Obviously, there is a lot we don't know, but what we do know leads me to believe we're better off without the CIA. Every country wherein they try to control the elections and pick a leader (including our own) becomes a total shit show.

We need to get rid of the CIA and regroup when an actual attack on Ameican soil happens.

The CIA and FBI are not stellar when it comes to preventing shit.

I think they are a net negative. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 02, 2024 02:14 PM (JeYYB)

334 Men are very susceptible to the "honey trap" - that's why that technique became cliche...
Posted by: Nova Local

Works and has worked on women as well especially those less endowed with looks. So does ideological fervor in idiotic causes.

Monetary corruption pretty much works on both sexes.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:14 PM (peJ7P)

335 Still a honeytrap, just the alternate us of "honey" as a euphemism for "shit" - as in, "honey bucket."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Also, "honey dumpers," the guys who used to (maybe still do?) clean out septic tanks.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:14 PM (9yWhg)

336 322 Steinem was basically a straight-up communist using women as a Trojan Horse.

Her successors were the more modern and dangerous version of feminism: Radical left ugly dykes who hate the world and despise men. They want to see the world burn. I'll take a dozen Steinems over one of them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:09 PM (iFTx/)
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They're not meaningfully different. Feminism has been a revolutionary movement from the start. Steinem and her doctrinaire communism fit the bill in her era, the purple-haired monsters and their doctrinaire neo-Maoism fit the bill in theirs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (HnUIn)
______

Eh. While everyone is a product of their time, the modern purple-haired cannibals screeching in favor of lopping off confused girls' boobs and shoving perverted drag shows into kids' faces are much much worse.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)

337 Also, "honey dumpers," the guys who used to (maybe still do?) clean out septic tanks.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:14 PM (9yWhg)
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The company we used to pump the septic tank in my childhood home had a bee as a logo.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (HnUIn)

338
Sorry I'm just spitballing.
Posted by: ...

No, it's a good point and you might be on to something.

I have suspected lack of siblings as a main contributor, which would also explain things the research community often blames on age of parents.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (sv929)

339 I've been thinking about Rob Reiner and his promise to set himself on fire if Trump gets reelected.
Is there any place I could send tinder?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (flRy+)

Think of all the carbon that would release into the atmosphere... it would be glorious.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (IUd0M)

340 Meh. She was cute enough to pull off the outfit.
http://tiny.cc/2qwwxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:04 PM (HnUIn)

You like the gals with beefier shanks. I prefer the slimmer ones.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (dGCAG)

341 No, I haven't seen any studies on birth control and autism, only studies looking for links between birth control and sterility.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (D7oie)

I'd look for a correlation with age of the mother. One thing evolution never intended was having the bulk of the kids coming from 30 year old moms.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:16 PM (eoQWY)

342 do you mean like the successful lawsuits over childhood vaccines and autism with the actual science following up the mechanism, leading to several studies following vaccinated and unvaccinated children and their autism?

No, I haven't seen any studies on birth control and autism, only studies looking for links between birth control and sterility.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (D7oie)

Yes. I think it should be studied. But probably too contentious to study.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:16 PM (ekpFK)

343 Waiting to see more Republicans Cong9walk the plank and jump off to give the Democrats Congress so they can nullify Trump

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (fwDg9)

344 Eh. While everyone is a product of their time, the modern purple-haired cannibals screeching in favor of lopping off confused girls' boobs and shoving perverted drag shows into kids' faces are much much worse.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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Which Steinhem would have been doing, had she been a thing now instead of then. Each subsequent "wave" expands the trail blazed by its predecessors. If the purple-haired cannibals were alive in the 50s, they'd look and act like Gloria Steinem, cutting the path for their equivalents today.

All of them, then or now, seek revolutionary overthrow and destruction. Steinem's era just demanded better window-dressing because the populace hadn't been softened up yet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (HnUIn)

345 Feminism is so last decade. Women are back to being second class citizens, right where Democrats wanted them all along. Except now their tires are too worn to start families, and their bodies are wrecked from birth control anyway, so the joke is on them.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:05 PM (ekpFK)

If you keep talking like this, you're going to bring the REPUBLICANS ARE KILLING THE PARTY OVER ABORTION YOU GUYS trolls out to play.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (dGCAG)

346 The c eye a also has many shell companies. They cover every conceivable market (and make their own.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (Q4IgG)

347 One thing evolution never intended was having the bulk of the kids coming from 30 year old moms.
Posted by: Oldcat

Pfft. My Mom had me when she was 46.

But I was the youngest of six, so she'd already had a lot of practice by then.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (9yWhg)

348 I think they are a net negative. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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A right opinion in my view. Just like C. Parkinson predicted in Parkinson's law. They eventually, like every other bureaucracy become solely concentrating on increasing their own power and wealth and that is irresistible to sociopaths because they can appear to rule without consequences (those eventually occur but sociopaths and psychopaths live in the short run).

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (peJ7P)

349 Space X in 20 minutes or so

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

350 The Euro-weenies are super concerned about the carbon emissions from farms. They are shutting them down all over the continent. I think carbon from from trip farms.
Posted by: Roberto at May 02, 2024 02:12 PM (rdhk2)

Carbon hell. They want to score land development kickbacks for hotels and condos where the farms used to be.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (eoQWY)

351
294 Steinem was also a Playboy Bunny.

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Steinem was not a Playboy bunny. She got a job as one briefly to do an article for "Show" magazine in 1963. It was not flattering.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (T3es0)

352 Carbon hell. They want to score land development kickbacks for hotels and condos where the farms used to be.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (eoQWY)
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Don't forget "migrant housing." Migrant housing safely out of the cities where the elites live.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (HnUIn)

353 352 Carbon hell. They want to score land development kickbacks for hotels and condos where the farms used to be.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (eoQWY)
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Don't forget "migrant housing." Migrant housing safely out of the cities where the elites live.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (HnUIn)

=======

Also solar farms. Gotta remember the solar farm tycoons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

354 343 Waiting to see more Republicans Cong9walk the plank and jump off to give the Democrats Congress so they can nullify Trump
Posted by: Skip
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Cowards like the GOP in office die many deaths because they are always balancing fear and greed in their heads.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:19 PM (peJ7P)

355 341 No, I haven't seen any studies on birth control and autism, only studies looking for links between birth control and sterility.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2024 02:11 PM (D7oie)

I'd look for a correlation with age of the mother. One thing evolution never intended was having the bulk of the kids coming from 30 year old moms.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:16 PM (eoQWY)
__________

This. You'll never see a study confirming it, but baby-making is supposed to be a young woman's -- and young man's -- game.

And it's not just the older biology. It's also that older parents generally have less stamina, less patience, and have been poisoned by decades of idiotic and destructive parenting "advice" from "experts."

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:20 PM (iFTx/)

356 A right opinion in my view. Just like C. Parkinson predicted in Parkinson's law. They eventually, like every other bureaucracy become solely concentrating on increasing their own power and wealth and that is irresistible to sociopaths because they can appear to rule without consequences (those eventually occur but sociopaths and psychopaths live in the short run).
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (peJ7P)

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Good point, I didn't even mention the money that black ops sucks down and cannot be accounted for. Some I understand, but when the pentagon is always "missing" billions, we need to get our heads out of our asses.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 02, 2024 02:20 PM (JeYYB)

357 BREAKING: CIA Operates Troll Farms in Kyiv to Influence American Voters and To Assure Biden's 2024 Win.
----------------

Is this one of the twelve (12) known troll farms that are already in operation or a new one?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:20 PM (lCWOD)

358 One thing evolution never intended was having the bulk of the kids coming from 30 year old moms.
Posted by: Oldcat

Pfft. My Mom had me when she was 46.

But I was the youngest of six, so she'd already had a lot of practice by then.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (9yWhg)

She probably wasn't on the pill the previous decades earlier.

My sister had a child above 40. Poor fellow needed major surgeries to remove tumors around the optic nerves before he was 4. The incidence of this skyrockets the older the mom is.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:21 PM (eoQWY)

359 Carbon hell. They want to score land development kickbacks for hotels and condos where the farms used to be.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (eoQWY)
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Don't forget "migrant housing." Migrant housing safely out of the cities where the elites live.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:18 PM (HnUIn)

I'm sure an increased population with less food production will work out really well.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 02:21 PM (IUd0M)

360 15 minutes and seconds to lift off

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 02:21 PM (fwDg9)

361 Dammit

The Macedonians heard, now they want TWENTY KOPECKS per post!

Posted by: Miklos, shoveling manure into the server/boiler at May 02, 2024 02:22 PM (DhOlS)

362 Is Gloria Steinem still alive?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 02, 2024 02:22 PM (flRy+)

363 Didn't intend to be so late to the conversation but was distracted by
Leonid & Friends.

.youtube.com/results?search_query=leonid+and+friends+

Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:23 PM (lCWOD)

364 My sister had a child above 40. Poor fellow needed major surgeries to remove tumors around the optic nerves before he was 4. The incidence of this skyrockets the older the mom is.
Posted by: Oldcat

Yeesh. I turned out fine, but my Mom had various health issues as a result of birthing me at a later age.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:23 PM (9yWhg)

365 All of them, then or now, seek revolutionary overthrow and destruction. Steinem's era just demanded better window-dressing because the populace hadn't been softened up yet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

It's over, the intel community coup failed whether Trump gets screwed over by them or not. No one believes much in the system nor its politicians anymore and you cannot base a country on sand.

When all leaders are viewed with suspicion and disgust, you can try to kill off the Epsteins, etc. that you used to gain and keep power but all that does is decrease belief in the system that keeps the IC afloat in money and power. Statism eventually kills the state as even the Chi Coms are finding out.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:23 PM (peJ7P)

366 " they have their people placed in every group with influence, it would seem.
Posted by: illiniwek

They are losing by the day--their puppet media perverts are viewed with disdain by most of the population, their attempts to have the latest horrific anti science and anti people trannyism adopted as the peak of human society is dying, and the secret kings are making themselves despised by the left and right.
Ultimately, hubris meets nemesis every time. Posted by: whig

Something tells me they already have assets in the new media, certainly in (still King) Google, WEF and in multiple agencies and NGO's. But perhaps some people are in some Great Awakening.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (Cus5s)

367
With a grift grift here
And a grift grift there

Posted by: Old Z Lint Ski at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (9bv39)

368
Is this one of the twelve (12) known troll farms that are already in operation or a new one?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:20 PM (lCWOD)

——-

Is there a list?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (2fIO4)

369 And it's not just the older biology. It's also that older parents generally have less stamina, less patience, and have been poisoned by decades of idiotic and destructive parenting "advice" from "experts."
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:20 PM (iFTx/)

To raise kids properly remember the three Bs:

Beat
Belittle
Berate

Posted by: Kids are resilient. Beat, demean, and terrorize them. Especially yours. at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (Wc83a)

370 "but when the pentagon is always "missing" billions, we need to get our heads out of our asses."

Support the troops!

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:25 PM (Ectld)

371 Obviously, there is a lot we don't know, but what we do know leads me to believe we're better off without the CIA. Every country wherein they try to control the elections and pick a leader (including our own) becomes a total shit show.

We need to get rid of the CIA and regroup when an actual attack on Ameican soil happens.

The CIA and FBI are not stellar when it comes to preventing shit.

I think they are a net negative. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 02, 2024 02:14 PM (JeYYB)

Most organizations have a similar lifetime to people. Start out with energy, end up with arthritis and senility. If you think we need intelligence orgs or not, the ones we have are unreformable. Better to kill them all and start new ones with the people and directives you want.

You can't remake a rotted, hollow tree. Just plant a new one.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:25 PM (eoQWY)

372 ... When all leaders are viewed with suspicion and disgust, you can try to kill off the Epsteins, etc. that you used to gain and keep power but all that does is decrease belief in the system that keeps the IC afloat in money and power. Statism eventually kills the state as even the Chi Coms are finding out.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:23 PM (peJ7P)
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I'm less optimistic than you. Not about the US eventually petering out - that will happen - but about it being "over" in terms of the continuation and acceleration of damage. The brilliance of the feminist movement (and to a lesser degree, at least so far, the racial movement) has been that they got large enough to self-perpetuate and advance without oversight.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

373 344 Eh. While everyone is a product of their time, the modern purple-haired cannibals screeching in favor of lopping off confused girls' boobs and shoving perverted drag shows into kids' faces are much much worse.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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Which Steinhem would have been doing, had she been a thing now instead of then. Each subsequent "wave" expands the trail blazed by its predecessors. If the purple-haired cannibals were alive in the 50s, they'd look and act like Gloria Steinem, cutting the path for their equivalents today.

All of them, then or now, seek revolutionary overthrow and destruction. Steinem's era just demanded better window-dressing because the populace hadn't been softened up yet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:17 PM (HnUIn)
___________

Nah. Steinem was a different breed, for the reasons I pointed out earlier. Oh and she's still around. And she was preaching against trannies and the encroachment of men into women's activities. She of course was forced to abdicate this position by the modern cannibals, but I think her true position is her original one.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

374 Good point, I didn't even mention the money that black ops sucks down and cannot be accounted for. Some I understand, but when the pentagon is always "missing" billions, we need to get our heads out of our asses.
Posted by: Seems Legit

The financial iceberg for the US is coming on fast and the US ship of state under FJB is trying to speed up to hit it.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:26 PM (peJ7P)

375 Is this one of the twelve (12) known troll farms that are already in operation or a new one?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:20 PM (lCWOD)

——-

Is there a list?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (2fIO4)

CIA has it in a locked secure room with biometric locks, pressure sensors and temperature sensors. You can only get in through a vent in the ceiling.

Posted by: And a French guy has to hold the rope. Dodgy. at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (Wc83a)

376 I'm sure an increased population with less food production will work out really well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 02:21 PM (IUd0M)

No heating in the winter either, since they blew up the pipelines and are warring against their energy supplier.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (eoQWY)

377 SpaceX launch in about 9 minutes

The 14-minute window opens at 11:36 a.m. PDT, 18:36 UTC, and 20:36 CEST.

https://www.youtube.com/live/q5hf7QpVB_w

Posted by: Ciampino - eye shut got now better at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (qfLjt)

378 Where can I get a clean image of that first meme - the one with Trump draped in a flag and cross?

I kind of want it for my wallpaper. Or maybe a banner outside my house.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (sv929)

379 Nah. Steinem was a different breed, for the reasons I pointed out earlier. Oh and she's still around. And she was preaching against trannies and the encroachment of men into women's activities. She of course was forced to abdicate this position by the modern cannibals, but I think her true position is her original one.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:26 PM (iFTx/)
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I am sure it is. And if she had come up 40 years later, her true position would be the current one. There is no "different breed" when it comes to leftist revolutionaries, only a difference in milieu and therefore in effective tactics.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)

380 You want virtue in government and the people, you have to have a relatively poor and homogeneous population that has natural borders and where the ambitious more or less have to live within the community so they can be 'touched' and live with what they do as policy.
Posted by: whig

If I could pick, I'd want a society in which all of the opportunities for wealth and power were in the private classes, and one in which opportunities for wealth and power were a frustrating exercise in the public classes. Government employment should be seen as a loser's game, not the on-ramp to wealth and power. Which I have to imagine was the Founder's goal.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (IG4Id)

381

President Biden called Japan and India ‘xenophobic’ at an off-camera campaign fundraiser in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, lumping the U.S. allies in with China and Russia while making the argument that the United States is right to welcome in immigrants.

“This election is about freedom, America and democracy. That’s why I badly need you. You know, one of the reasons why our economy is growing is because of you and many others. Why? Because we welcome immigrants,” the president said.

“The reason — look, think about it. Why is China stalling so badly economically? Why is Japan having trouble? Why is Russia? Why is India? Because they’re xenophobic. They don’t want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong. Not a joke; that’s not hyperbole. Because we have an influx of workers who want to be here and want to contribute,” he added, according to a pool report.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (63Dwl)

382 Hi Blondie.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (ekpFK)

383 Republicans in the house and senate have approved every payment to Ukraine, including the payments that funded this op.

Republicans have not cut any funding to any of the agencies involved, and rather have increased funding to those agencies.

They will keep raising the debt ceiling, increasing the burden on your family, you children's family,
your grandchildren's family, and your great-grandchildren's family, in the event your children survive the LGBTQ indoctrination and aborticide programs, also funded by Republicans without abatement.

Donald Trump has promised to keep sending money, he'll just call it a loan instead.

There is no difference in the two parties.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (fpujf)

384 Posted by: Kids are resilient. Beat, demean, and terrorize them. Especially yours. at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (Wc83a)

Insomniac, is that you? If so, I assume you didn't do any of that with your kids. I haven't done any of that with my kid either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (XkYcA)

385 Hi Blondie.
Posted by: ... at

You know who else said that?

Posted by: Miklos, thinking you do at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (DhOlS)

386 379 Nah. Steinem was a different breed, for the reasons I pointed out earlier. Oh and she's still around. And she was preaching against trannies and the encroachment of men into women's activities. She of course was forced to abdicate this position by the modern cannibals, but I think her true position is her original one.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:26 PM (iFTx/)
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I am sure it is. And if she had come up 40 years later, her true position would be the current one. There is no "different breed" when it comes to leftist revolutionaries, only a difference in milieu and therefore in effective tactics.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)
___________

I see I'm not convincing you. Nor vice versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

387 ... “The reason — look, think about it. Why is China stalling so badly economically? Why is Japan having trouble? Why is Russia? Why is India? Because they’re xenophobic. They don’t want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong. Not a joke; that’s not hyperbole. Because we have an influx of workers who want to be here and want to contribute,” he added, according to a pool report.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (63Dwl)
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What a fucking idiot.

China and Japan have a demographic crisis coupled with a debt crisis - a story that with which we in this country will become intimately familiar - and India has too much debt and corruption but doesn't share the same problems with China and Japan.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)

388 When is planting season on the troll farm?

Posted by: And how much does it pay? at May 02, 2024 02:30 PM (9bv39)

389 I see I'm not convincing you. Nor vice versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Works for me.

I think it's against the rules of the blog, though...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

390 386 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)
___________

I see I'm not convincing you. Nor vice versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

=======

False.

*opens gate to Thunderdome*

In you go.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)

391 Kids are resilient. Beat, demean, and terrorize them. Especially yours. at May 02, 2024 02:24 PM (Wc83a)

Insomniac, is that you? If so, I assume you didn't do any of that with your kids. I haven't done any of that with my kid either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

For the kids he used Nerf tire irons.

At first.

Posted by: Miklos, spare the tire iron, spoil the child at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (DhOlS)

392 Hope the Russians take Kiev and burn it to the ground.

Like Berlin in 1945.

But first, The Rape.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (4a+k3)

393 When is planting season on the troll farm?
Posted by: And how much does it pay? at May 02, 2024 02:30 PM (9bv39)
++++
It's always planting season. Between the constant cycle of quarterly estimated taxes and US Treasury bond auctions, the spice always flows.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (HnUIn)

394 I'm less optimistic than you. Not about the US eventually petering out - that will happen - but about it being "over" in terms of the continuation and acceleration of damage. The brilliance of the feminist movement (and to a lesser degree, at least so far, the racial movement) has been that they got large enough to self-perpetuate and advance without oversight.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

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Selective pressures are undermining the feminist movement as well because their goals are not in congruence with humanity.

Basically all the social sciences and those using it in power try to work against human nature instead of working with it. The invisible hand does not just apply to economics and like in the case of the Soviet Union, a critical mass will go around, below, and so on to get around any barriers that the state may try to put up.

It is a fools errand in the long run by self extinguishing feminists, gays, and other people that have adopted existential despair as their cause, will die off. You cannot kill bad ideas but you sure as hell can push them back for generations when the burnt hand learns to avoid the fire.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (peJ7P)

395
Hi Blondie.
Posted by: ... at

You know who else said that?
Posted by: Miklos

Dagwood?
Tuco?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (63Dwl)

396 387 ... “The reason — look, think about it. Why is China stalling so badly economically? Why is Japan having trouble? Why is Russia? Why is India? Because they’re xenophobic. They don’t want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong. Not a joke; that’s not hyperbole. Because we have an influx of workers who want to be here and want to contribute,” he added, according to a pool report.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 02:28 PM (63Dwl)
++++
What a fucking idiot.

China and Japan have a demographic crisis coupled with a debt crisis - a story that with which we in this country will become intimately familiar - and India has too much debt and corruption but doesn't share the same problems with China and Japan.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)
_______

Japan has no problems that can't be fixed with more advanced sex robots. I'm only half-joking.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

397 Where can I get a clean image of that first meme - the one with Trump draped in a flag and cross?

I kind of want it for my wallpaper. Or maybe a banner outside my house.
Posted by: Gentlemen

Billboards up & down freeways.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (+98Vn)

398 As disgusting as this is along with everything else the deep state does, what kind of drooling, ignorant and ill informed American do you have to be to let memes and posts influence that way you think about candidates and the future of America. I know, I know, they are out there.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (oiNtH)

399 385 Hi Blondie.
Posted by: ... at

You know who else said that?
Posted by: Miklos, thinking you do at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (DhOlS)

Hitler?

Posted by: Or Donald Trump. Same depending who you ask. at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (Wc83a)

400 I am sure it is. And if she had come up 40 years later, her true position would be the current one. There is no "different breed" when it comes to leftist revolutionaries, only a difference in milieu and therefore in effective tactics.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)

Yup. In Steinem's day the idea was to denigrate moms and get young girls out into businesses to remove them from the support of the family. Same time there was a movement to not breast feed babies. That one was not as successful as the first one.

The next phase was the man hating one.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (eoQWY)

401 396
Japan has no problems that can't be fixed with more advanced sex robots. I'm only half-joking.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

======

Will they look like Lucy Liu?

I think I saw an informational film about the dangers of such a situation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

402 Ukraine's "democracy" is only slightly less democrat and representative then ours.

Note...that isn't a compliment.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (ibTVg)

403
Hi Blondie.
Posted by: ...

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Hi ...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (T3es0)

404 ou know who else said that?
Posted by: Miklos

Dagwood?
Tuco?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Debby Harry's (mmmmmm...) husband?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (9yWhg)

405 390 386 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)
___________

I see I'm not convincing you. Nor vice versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

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False.

*opens gate to Thunderdome*

In you go.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, I've been told I look like a younger Mel Gibson, so . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

406 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (63Dwl)

That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the word
Blondie"- Tuco in TGTBATU. Blooooondiiiiiee!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (XkYcA)

407 You know who else said that?
Posted by: Miklos, thinking you do at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (DhOlS)

LOL I had to look it up

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (ekpFK)

408 what kind of drooling, ignorant and ill informed American do you have to be to let memes and posts influence that way you think about candidates and the future of America?

Average.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (fpujf)

409 Blondieeeeeeeee

Wha wha wha wha

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (x1l63)

410 405 Well, I've been told I look like a younger Mel Gibson, so . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

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Confirmed. Elric thinks that Joe Mannix looks either like Master or Blaster.

Further investigation required.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

411 As disgusting as this is along with everything else the deep state does, what kind of drooling, ignorant and ill informed American do you have to be to let memes and posts influence that way you think about candidates and the future of America. I know, I know, they are out there.
Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (oiNtH)

Helloooooo!

Posted by: Drooling, Ignorant And Ill Informed democrat at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (4a+k3)

412 Selective pressures are undermining the feminist movement as well because their goals are not in congruence with humanity. ...
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:31 PM (peJ7P)
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Yes, but that doesn't mean a good outcome.

Feminism directly attacked the single most powerful structural support for civilization: marriage, sex and children. Successful civilizations spent literal millennia honing systems to regulate those things, because they are for all the marbles. Do it right, and you'll conquer a continent. Do it wrong, and you collapse into ash.

They have cut down major supports holding up the entire edifice. Even when it fails - and it will, for the reasons you point out - that doesn't mean we survive the failure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (HnUIn)

413 Well, I've been told I look like a younger Mel Gibson, so . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade

You rock the woad, dude.

Posted by: Miklos, impressed at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (DhOlS)

414 Mel Gibson's like 70, so that makes sense.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (Ectld)

415 Because they’re xenophobic. They don’t want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong.

I suspect if you put a real lifetime ban on any public or semi-public (eg NGOs) aide going to immigrants that would be tru-ish.

Then you would actually get the people that want to work for a living.

You would still have the problem that they would make the US more like their own countries. And since their countries are mostly shitholes that's an issue.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (ibTVg)

416 What a fucking idiot.

China and Japan have a demographic crisis coupled with a debt crisis - a story that with which we in this country will become intimately familiar - and India has too much debt and corruption but doesn't share the same problems with China and Japan.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)

India is hardly a monolith of one people being xenophobic. There's probably as many languages there in use as 10 Europes.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:35 PM (eoQWY)

417 401 396
Japan has no problems that can't be fixed with more advanced sex robots. I'm only half-joking.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

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Will they look like Lucy Liu?

I think I saw an informational film about the dangers of such a situation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
____________

"Are you talking about me?"

-- Priss

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:35 PM (iFTx/)

418
In Steinem's day the idea was to denigrate moms and get young girls out into businesses to remove them from the support of the family.

Posted by: Oldcat

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Steinem was actually a champion of the housewife and was anti-denigration. "Oh, she's a housewife? So she doesn't work" was the sort of thing she combatted. She preached that it was hard and difficult work that people improperly dissed. Go back and take a look, you'll see.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:35 PM (T3es0)

419 Mel Gibson's like 70
Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (Ectld)

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Still would.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 02:35 PM (DRSnL)

420 413 Well, I've been told I look like a younger Mel Gibson, so . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade

You rock the woad, dude.
Posted by: Miklos, impressed at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (DhOlS)

He's The Woad Wawwiow

Posted by: Wascawwy. Vewy wascawwy. at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (Wc83a)

421 419 Mel Gibson's like 70
Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (Ectld)

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Still would.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 02:35 PM (DRSnL)

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Women are pigs.

/jk

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

422 Xenophobic in this context means standing in the way of the CCP.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (iFMeW)

423 Unexpectedly!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (EXN0A)

424 Norm did a bit on how he was having an argument with his doctor friend. And so Norm said I guess well just have to agree to disagree.

And the friend said no. I won't agree to disagree because I don't agree.

🤣

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (ekpFK)

425
Blondieeeeeeeee

Wha wha wha wha
Posted by: Skip

============

Whoo whoo whooooooo!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (T3es0)

426 The best part of feminism?

Every metric of female happiness has cratered since the implementation of second generation feminism and it has gotten worse with third generation.

The current fourth generation - trannyism - looks like it will make things far, far worse...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (ibTVg)

427 Still would.
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This has to be really awkward for Elric.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (Ectld)

428 India is hardly a monolith of one people being xenophobic. There's probably as many languages there in use as 10 Europes.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:35 PM (eoQWY)

And half the shitters.

People still shitting on the beach at low tide so high tide washes it all away.

Great fishing, however.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (4a+k3)

429 Liftoff in seconds

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (fwDg9)

430 410 405 Well, I've been told I look like a younger Mel Gibson, so . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

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Confirmed. Elric thinks that Joe Mannix looks either like Master or Blaster.

Further investigation required.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
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WHO RUN BARTERTOWN?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (iFTx/)

431 Ukraine's "democracy" is only slightly less democrat and representative then ours.

Note...that isn't a compliment.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:32 PM (ibTVg)

Well all oppo parties were banned soon after the war started. And then there's the third of the army that are Nazis shooting the ethnic group they don't like.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (eoQWY)

432 427 This has to be really awkward for Elric.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (Ectld)

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I'm suddenly reminded of the bit in the movie Game Night when the black wife admits that she slept with Denzel, but the picture of the guy she slept with looks nothing like Denzel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

433 If I could pick, I'd want a society in which all of the opportunities for wealth and power were in the private classes, and one in which opportunities for wealth and power were a frustrating exercise in the public classes. Government employment should be seen as a loser's game, not the on-ramp to wealth and power. Which I have to imagine was the Founder's goal.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Wealth and power in the private world inevitably spills over to governance and the aims of society. Late feudalism, in part like in France, was an attempt to pull the teeth out of the wealthy using wealth for political power. As practiced by Louis XIV, he made them strive for court recognition in society rather than political power. He did such things by allowing the wealth to buy into the aristocracy and requiring the existing aristocracy to spend ruinous amounts of their wealth competing with others for royal favor at Versailles rather than at their own estates fomenting trouble.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (peJ7P)

434 Early feminism helped break up the traditional family, or even break the family. At the least it started the two worker family, with kids more and more turned over to the state. (It takes a village to raise a child)

I'd guess it was also the start of fewer children in general. Many other bad things, when women had to become "equal" to men, even if it required government preferences in hiring of school admissions.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (Cus5s)

435 Confirmed. Elric thinks that Joe Mannix looks either like Master or Blaster.

Further investigation required.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
++++
He thinks I look that good?

Dude, Elric, as a friend, I think you should go get your eyes checked.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:38 PM (HnUIn)

436 It's gone, looks good

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2024 02:38 PM (fwDg9)

437 To be such a doofus, how did Dagwood end up with such a hot wife?

Posted by: My 14 year old self at May 02, 2024 02:38 PM (9bv39)

438 Every metric of female happiness has cratered since the implementation of second generation feminism and it has gotten worse with third generation.

The current fourth generation - trannyism - looks like it will make things far, far worse...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:36 PM (ibTVg)

When the trannys drive the feminists out of all the influential jobs, and sports they might have nowhere to go but to the family.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:39 PM (eoQWY)

439 China and Japan have a demographic crisis coupled with a debt crisis - a story that with which we in this country will become intimately familiar - and India has too much debt and corruption but doesn't share the same problems with China and Japan.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

China and Japan are not comparable situations. China has a billion and a half of ruin to rest upon. Japan could disappear in a generation.

That's not to say I believe in the demographic catastrophe that everyone seems exercised about. I don't; our post-industrial age does not need replacement programs. The fact that a shit-ton of people are seriously suggesting UBI and 15 minute cities proves we don't need immigrant feeder programs. We don't need Population Uber Alles idiocy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2024 02:39 PM (IG4Id)

440 >>>You like the gals with beefier shanks. I prefer the slimmer ones.
Posted by: BurtTC
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She wrote something in one of her books about guys with skinny legs.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:39 PM (lCWOD)

441 Early feminism helped break up the traditional family, or even break the family. At the least it started the two worker family, with kids more and more turned over to the state. (It takes a village to raise a child)

I was reading a female critique of 1st generation feminism and it was interesting. The author argued that giving women the vote was dumb because either they would vote the same way as their husband, so it makes no difference, or they'd vote the opposite and then cancel her family's say in government.

It was an interesting perspective. The key to understanding it being the focus on the family as the core social unit versus the individual.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (ibTVg)

442 To be such a doofus, how did Dagwood end up with such a hot wife?
Posted by: My 14 year old self

Never bothered her with "make me a sammich".

Posted by: Miklos, guessifying at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (DhOlS)

443
My sister had a child above 40. Poor fellow needed major surgeries to remove tumors around the optic nerves before he was 4. The incidence of this skyrockets the older the mom is.
Posted by: Oldcat

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What are women supposed to do, stop having sex after 30? 40? Or get their tubes tied? I believe that in natalist cultures, women have babies until they can't anymore.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (T3es0)

444 You like the gals with beefier shanks. I prefer the slimmer ones.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:15 PM (dGCAG)

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Beefier Shanks is the name of my new band.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (DRSnL)

445 To be such a doofus, how did Dagwood end up with such a hot wife?
Posted by: My 14 year old self

He came from money. And she was just a flapper. He married down, and his family disowned him.

That was back when the strip started, in the 1920s.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (9yWhg)

446 To be such a doofus, how did Dagwood end up with such a hot wife?
Posted by: My 14 year old self at May 02, 2024 02:38 PM (9bv39)

He liked to eat. You'll understand that in a few years.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 02:41 PM (IUd0M)

447 I'd guess it was also the start of fewer children in general. Many other bad things, when women had to become "equal" to men, even if it required government preferences in hiring of school admissions.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (Cus5s)

high school and college started delaying lots of kids. In pioneer days you might be paired up helping on your parents or another farm at 16 or so.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:41 PM (eoQWY)

448 426
The current fourth generation - trannyism - looks like it will make things far, far worse...

Posted by: 18-1 at May

Fourth is full circle where men are better at everything, including being women.

Posted by: Piper at May 02, 2024 02:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

449 (At least) 3 Presidential elections in a row. Screw this corrupt country. They're no better than Russia - just the other side of a rotten coin.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (xaNfJ)

450 448 Fourth is full circle where men are better at everything, including being women.
Posted by: Piper at May 02, 2024 02:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

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Just like in Elizabethan theater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

451 >>> Beefier Shanks is the name of my new band.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (DRSnL)

I saw you open for Captain Beef heart. Great show.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (Y6IkP)

452
When the trannys drive the feminists out of all the influential jobs, and sports they might have nowhere to go but to the family.

When you show current career women what life looked like in the 50s a significant percentage of them will ask why the hell their grandmothers threw it all away.

I mean seriously as a man I get no "life satisfaction" out of working at a corporate job, just a pay check. And thanks to feminism (and the left in general) you need two of those paychecks to buy what one did in the 50s.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (ibTVg)

453 443
My sister had a child above 40. Poor fellow needed major surgeries to remove tumors around the optic nerves before he was 4. The incidence of this skyrockets the older the mom is.
Posted by: Oldcat

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What are women supposed to do, stop having sex after 30? 40? Or get their tubes tied? I believe that in natalist cultures, women have babies until they can't anymore.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (T3es0)

Damn, you really torched that straw man.

Posted by: Quite a "whoompf" sound as it incinerated at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (Wc83a)

454 Pompeo is a fat treasonous POS.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (aFNOf)

455 454 Pompeo is a fat treasonous POS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2024 02:42 PM (aFNOf)

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False.

He's not fat anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

456
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (ibTVg)

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This nation is founded on the concept of individual rights. Individuals will cast votes that will help their tribe, their affinity group, theirselves, their industry, whatever.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:44 PM (T3es0)

457 Interesting to me-fact

Before serving in the medical corps in WWII, Brooklyn born Eli Wallach went to the University of Texas at Austin. Being in TX was where he first learned to ride a horse.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2024 02:44 PM (XkYcA)

458 They have cut down major supports holding up the entire edifice. Even when it fails - and it will, for the reasons you point out - that doesn't mean we survive the failure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Society will be populated by the survivors after any cataclysm and rectification of society is never a pleasant process to live through. But, aside from global biological or nuclear war, bad ideas not in congruence with human nature die and ideas based on actual human nature become predominant. The people on the other side of teh cataclysm will be poorer but wiser.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:44 PM (peJ7P)

459 He did such things by allowing the wealth to buy into the aristocracy and requiring the existing aristocracy to spend ruinous amounts of their wealth competing with others for royal favor at Versailles rather than at their own estates fomenting trouble.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:37 PM (peJ7P)

Draining wealth to buy political/social access versus applying it to the production of goods and services (food/shelter in those times) directly led to the French revolution...gee, I wonder what the parallels are for that idiotic misuse of wealth might be for America right now?

Posted by: Boswell at May 02, 2024 02:44 PM (K+UlC)

460 She wrote something in one of her books about guys with skinny legs.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:39 PM (lCWOD)

One of her books? She "wrote" more than one??

For heaven's sake, why... and why would anyone read one.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2024 02:44 PM (dGCAG)

461 Nood. Unsurprising.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2024 02:45 PM (IUd0M)

462 nood

Soros

Posted by: banana Dream at May 02, 2024 02:45 PM (Y6IkP)

463 ============

What are women supposed to do, stop having sex after 30? 40? Or get their tubes tied? I believe that in natalist cultures, women have babies until they can't anymore.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (T3es0)

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I have read that it's women who have their FIRST child later that have problems.

But I don't know. My policy is children are a blessing. Period. It's parents who screw it up.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 02, 2024 02:45 PM (JeYYB)

464 He's not fat anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 02, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

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Oh-oh-oh-Ozempic!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 02, 2024 02:45 PM (DRSnL)

465 False.

He's not fat anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda a

I bet he's at the donut bar since his presidential aspirations were squashed. They'll need a piano case to bury his fat ass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2024 02:45 PM (aFNOf)

466 I watched a modern "Stepford Wives" type movie called Don't Worry Darling and it was unintentionally hilarious.

Basically the villain has found a way to force women to live in a perfect version of the 50s. And in watching the movie you can't help but ask who the hell wouldn't want to live there?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:45 PM (ibTVg)

467 Society will be populated by the survivors after any cataclysm and rectification of society is never a pleasant process to live through. But, aside from global biological or nuclear war, bad ideas not in congruence with human nature die and ideas based on actual human nature become predominant. The people on the other side of teh cataclysm will be poorer but wiser.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:44 PM (peJ7P)
++++
They often die by conquest, with the survivors entering the system of the victor. This is why my bet has been in Islam over the next century.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2024 02:46 PM (HnUIn)

468 For heaven's sake, why... and why would anyone read one.
Posted by: BurtTC
-------------------------

It was quoted by a faddist.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:47 PM (lCWOD)

469 I was reading a female critique of 1st generation feminism and it was interesting. The author argued that giving women the vote was dumb because either they would vote the same way as their husband, so it makes no difference, or they'd vote the opposite and then cancel her family's say in government.

It was an interesting perspective. The key to understanding it being the focus on the family as the core social unit versus the individual.
Posted by: 18-1

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Women suck at logic. What it does is it cancels out all dysfunctional marriages, and doubles the ones where wife and husband agree. That is something.

But an interesting perspective anyway. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 02:48 PM (sv929)

470 What are women supposed to do, stop having sex after 30? 40? Or get their tubes tied? I believe that in natalist cultures, women have babies until they can't anymore.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at May 02, 2024 02:40 PM (T3es0)

No idea how people in the past handled that. Just that the current total ignorance of modern women these days that you can just have kids above 35 with no risks, or that they can freeze eggs and have kids later isn't rational. I knew that stuff off the streets as a kid.

It isn't a subject I follow but I do see women on YT bringing into question the effects on women of our current birth control chemicals. I would not be at all surprised if these are actual problems that the medical industry isn't interested in because of the social pressure.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2024 02:49 PM (eoQWY)

471 This nation is founded on the concept of individual rights. Individuals will cast votes that will help their tribe, their affinity group, theirselves, their industry, whatever.

But at founding women didn't have the right to vote...and I believe it was exactly because of the anti-suffrage argument I was talking about...

Note: To head off a potential argument let me clarify I'm not saying that you could just drop women's suffrage BECAUSE as a culture we've gone far from that family first cultural view.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:49 PM (ibTVg)

472 They often die by conquest, with the survivors entering the system of the victor. This is why my bet has been in Islam over the next century.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I think Christianity was/is man's best hope for a free and prosperous society. The conquest will always award the oppressors.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 02, 2024 02:50 PM (sv929)

473 Draining wealth to buy political/social access versus applying it to the production of goods and services (food/shelter in those times) directly led to the French revolution...gee, I wonder what the parallels are for that idiotic misuse of wealth might be for America right now?
Posted by: Boswell
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Louis XIV and his descendants blew most of the state treasury on personal luxury and foreign wars. It was one of Louis XIV's dying admissions that he got France into too many expensive and unnecessary wars. Louis XV and XVI did not listen and spent ruinous amounts trying to stop the Brits from worldwide colonies rather than trying to be the predominant power in Europe. Including spending a lot of money for very little benefit to the French state by subsidizing and fighting for American Independence. We came out all right, the French debt bomb exploded which led to Louis and his wife among others being executed in part because of this massive debt crisis.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2024 02:51 PM (peJ7P)

474 No idea how people in the past handled that. Just that the current total ignorance of modern women these days that you can just have kids above 35 with no risks, or that they can freeze eggs and have kids later isn't rational. I knew that stuff off the streets as a kid.

Fertility does decline as you age and even absent modern birth control there are ways to make sure you don't get preggers.

Though your point on women not understanding the risks of having children late in life is spot on. I think it was on a segment of the Whatever podcast where one person told a group of women their fertility starts declining in their late 20s and none of them would believe him. One of the female guests brought up a celebrity that had a kid at 40 and they all started arguing that means there are no drawbacks to waiting that long...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:53 PM (ibTVg)

475 Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:53 PM (ibTVg)

The "example" fallacy 😂

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2024 02:54 PM (ekpFK)

476 The "example" fallacy 😂

One of the conservative guests, perhaps Mary Morgan, did point out the celeb in question didn't tell anyone about her pregnancy until she had given birth...why?...because the celeb knew the risks.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2024 02:56 PM (ibTVg)

477 At the founding one had to own real property to vote.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 02, 2024 02:58 PM (lCWOD)

478 The threat is right here on home soil.

Posted by: rechill at May 02, 2024 03:58 PM (Q1LXu)

479 Jimmy Dore is legitimately an anti-Semite. I wouldn't cite him as a source if I were you. It makes you look racist, like citing the KKK.

Posted by: Brandon at May 02, 2024 04:52 PM (szwmn)

480 Gobbel's would enjoy this kind of stuff Biden the Worst

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 02, 2024 04:59 PM (wGqjj)

481 True story: I had lunch with Mel Gibson when he made Mad Max. In real life he did not look like his film image. He was tall, gawky, awkward and very shy. Films are illusion.

Posted by: pakisa at May 02, 2024 06:44 PM (a2Zpi)

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