THE MORNING RANT: Another Prominent Atheist Discovers the Civilizational Importance of Christianity

Another prominent atheist has apparently come to the realization that atheism - at least as conspicuously practiced in the West – serves as a destructive form of anti-Christianity, and that the eradication of Christianity does not result in an absence of religion. Instead, it creates an environment where other religions can thrive, including those which are incompatible with western enlightenment.

Richard Dawkins is the British professor who authored “The God Delusion” in 2006. He has made a successful career out of being a professional atheist, heaping much mockery on believers, be they Protestant fundamentalists or Mother Theresa.

Having seen the collapse of Christianity in western Europe, and the rise of Islam as its replacement, he is now starting to miss what he helped destroy, with his recent pronouncement that he is a “Cultural Christian.”

“Famous atheist says he identifies as a 'cultural Christian' and is 'horrified' by promotion of Islamic holiday; Richard Dawkins says he would choose Christianity over Islam 'every single time'“ [Fox News - 4/02/2024]

A famous atheist and evolutionary biologist, Richard Dawkins, explained he identifies as a "cultural Christian" in an interview after learning Ramadan lights were hung on a street in the UK as opposed to hanging lights to celebrate Easter.
"I must say I'm slightly horrified to hear that Ramadan is being promoted instead," Dawkins said in an interview with Rachel S. Johnson of LBC Sunday. "I feel that we are a Christian country."
"It's true that statistically, the number of people who actually believe in Christianity is going down and I'm happy with that, but I would not be happy if, for example, we lost all our cathedrals and our beautiful parish churches. So, I count myself a cultural Christian.”

Being happy about the collapse in the number of practicing Christians while simultaneously despairing the loss of what practicing Christians bring to the culture is quite the “Chesterton’s Fence” moment. Dawkins clearly did not understand the importance of the protective fence provided by Christian culture before seeking to clear it out.

Dawkins said that if he had to choose between Christianity and Islam, he would choose Christianity "every single time."
"I'm not talking about individual Muslims, who, of course, are all quite different, but the doctrines of Islam, the Hadith and the Quran, it's fundamentally hostile to women, hostile to gays and, I find that I like to live in a culturally Christian country, although I do not believe a single word of the Christian faith."

Welcome back to the radiant glow of the chapel, Richard! I hope you will ultimately repent of the damage you have done, seek the forgiveness of those you once mocked, and perhaps one day even walk through those chapel doors and join the body of believers who are the foundation of the civilization that you see slipping away.

It was just a few months ago that another prominent atheist, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, announced that she had decided to become a practicing Christian. I wrote about it at the time, noting that, “As Ms. Ali makes clear, she is making a calculated decision – a decision that is somewhat political - to become a practicing Christian.”

Ms. Ali received some criticism for her politically-motivated decision regarding her religious affiliation, to which I wrote, ”I pray that the rational decision process that has led Ms. Ali through the chapel doors will blossom into genuine faith with all of its rewards.” But even if as a practicing Christian Ms. Ali has doubts about the faith, she and society will be better off for her living a Christian life, promoting the Christian faith, and perpetuating Christian culture.

I pray that Mr. Dawkins’ awakening regarding the importance of Christian culture will allow him to follow the path of Ms. Ali. Yet I also understand the frustration of so many Christians toward Mr. Dawkins for the damage he has done, and for not fully understanding the dissonance of desiring a “cultural Christianity” that lacks actual practicing Christians.

“Richard Dawkins’ ‘Cultural Christianity’ Is Thin Gruel: There is no such thing as Christianity without Christians” [The American Conservative – 4/05/2024]

Having actively persecuted the church, Dawkins finds he is sad to see it go. We cannot pretend this is anyone’s fault but his own, and that of his compatriots who have crusaded against religion as the root of all social ills. Nevertheless, some of the church’s greatest apologists have come from its worst former persecutors. May the same be true of Dawkins.

Mr. Dawkins might be shocked to learn that in communities where Christianity remains strong and the pews remain full, there are an abundant number of parishioners whose “faith” would fall somewhere between agnostic and atheist if they were forced to be honest. Although these doubt-filled church-goers may not be published philosophers, they have long understood the magnificent importance of maintaining Christian culture and living a Christian life – for their families, for their communities, and for civilization as a whole. They also understand that being a practicing Christian helps inoculate against bad religions. If I may quote myself again from that Ayaan Hirsi Ali piece:

People are inherently religious. It was almost certainly a factor in our evolution and survival as a species, helping to create family units, parenting structures, agricultural practices, forbidden destructive behaviors, etc. which allowed humans to flourish. But being inherently religious, we’ll rapidly adopt evil religious practices where there is a void from good religions. Anti-humanity death cults (the Church of Climate, radical Islam) have filled the void where Judeo-Christianity has retreated.

These agnostic-yet-practicing Christians have understood for generations what Mr. Dawkins is just figuring out.

Nick the church usher – with his wife in the choir and with his children active in church youth programs - may have some doubts about the tenets of the faith, but he also gives generously, prays with his family, volunteers for mission work, reads Bible stories to his children, serves on committees, and actively promotes Christian culture. Christianity and the community benefit from his family’s active commitment to the church and to the faith, despite Nick’s doubts.

Finally, and this may be linguistic semantics, but it seems to me that agnostics are more likely to truly be non-believers than those who call themselves atheist, but the word “atheist” is so toxic that they don’t use it. In fact, the word “atheist” has pretty much become a synonym for “anti-Christian.” I know of plenty of people who identify as atheist who are venomously anti-Christian, yet they are not hostile to other religions, and they are especially sympathetic to Islam. Further, they are hyper-religious about climate and the environment, embracing the most primitive religious belief of all…that human misbehavior is the cause of bad weather.

I also chuckle when “atheists” speculate if we are living in a simulation. Not unlike their forebears gathered around a communal fire many millennia ago, these “non-believers” are sitting around a digital campfire with others in their online tribe, pondering their creator, and trying to formulate a creation story based on the earthly realm they know. In other words, they are trying to write their own Book of Genesis.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:00 AM (4mCEx)

2 Bridesmaid

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024 11:00 AM (V1/1/)

3 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

4 Not 1st.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

5 Was that picture at top dive by some kinda crazed Thomas Kinkade AI?

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:01 AM (4mCEx)

6 Too little, too late there Mr. Dawkins.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2024 11:02 AM (Q4IgG)

7 Was that picture at top dive by some kinda crazed Thomas Kinkade AI?

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:01 AM

Pretty sure the Nuclear reactor powering the Church has gone critical. Or God is sending a message for that guy to come in.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 19, 2024 11:02 AM (QNSds)

8 "... So, I count myself a cultural Christian.”

Won't save you.

Posted by: BignJames at April 19, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

9 Having seen the collapse of Christianity in western Europe, and the rise of Islam as its replacement, he is now starting to miss what he helped destroy, with his recent pronouncement that he is a “Cultural Christian.”

“Famous atheist says he identifies as a 'cultural Christian' and is 'horrified' by promotion of Islamic holiday; Richard Dawkins says he would choose Christianity over Islam 'every single time'“ [Fox News - 4/02/2024]

Fuck you. No take backs.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2024 11:03 AM (sHgnb)

10 I saw Culture Christian open for Fine Young Cannibals at the Manhole Club back in 2002.

Posted by: Pawl at April 19, 2024 11:03 AM (vFG9F)

11 From Dumbass to Damascus

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:04 AM (GkFGh)

12
So, I count myself a cultural Christian.

Welcome!

-- Christmas and Easter Christians

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2024 11:04 AM (RKVpM)

13 "I'm not talking about individual Muslims, who, of course, are all quite different, but the doctrines of Islam, the Hadith and the Quran, it's fundamentally hostile to women, hostile to gays and, I find that I like to live in a culturally Christian country, although I do not believe a single word of the Christian faith."

Douche.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

14 The atheists posit something much easier to believe in and more easily proved than God: infinite parallel universes.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)

15 He's "slightly horrified"?

I'm offended and mortified. I like civilization, and against the promotion of dark ages militaristic anti-religions, like Islam.

Posted by: The Retarded Reflexive Contrarians at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (aMY2p)

16 They will all repent for their anti-Christianity when Islam starts to put them to the sword.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at April 19, 2024 11:06 AM (diMhW)

17 So, I count myself a cultural Christian.

Welcome!

-- Christmas and Easter Christians
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Yeah, we refer to the like as CEO Catholics - Christmas and Easter Only.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2024 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)

18 Now if we could just get a couple Anglicans to start talking this way, too.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:07 AM (GkFGh)

19 Christ / Anti-Christ = Christianity / islham

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

20 The more I study Christianity, the deeper my own faith grows. It's simply *impossible* for it to be any other way.

I sometimes watch atheists attempt to debate Christians during presentations by Christians and it's almost laughable to watch the atheists flail around when the Christian presenter asks very simple questions.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:07 AM (7fElN)

21 "I find that I like to live in a culturally Christian country, although I do not believe a single word of the Christian faith."

I believe that's called a free rider problem.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at April 19, 2024 11:07 AM (diMhW)

22 Richard Dawkins is the perfect example of someone who is brilliant in one limited field of study -- in his case, evolutionary biology -- who then thinks he's an expert in everything and ends up making a fool of himself. The Selfish Gene was brilliant. The God Delusion was idiotic prattle that could have been written by a stoner commie at Berkeley.

Dawkins catastrophic mistake (that he now seems willing to admit) was thinking that just because he personally doesn't believe in God or Judeo-Christian religion/ethics that they have no benefit to the larger society.

I'm agnostic myself. But I recognize the obvious benefits that Judeo-Christian religion/ethics has brought to Western society, and especially compared to the savage barbarism of the Muslim world.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)

23 No one is really an atheist when the house is empty and it's just them and their thoughts.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM (3CVIc)

24 Without religion, people become nihilistic, hedonistic narcissists. That alternative is preached unceasingly in the media.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM (FVME7)

25 When people "warn" me that the Midwest Is "heavily Christian," I say, "I'd rather live around them than around Moslems, cartels, and gang-bangers."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM (J2vNu)

26 I heard a long time ago that all societies/cultures are theocracies. You just have to figure out who Theo is.

If the apostle Paul can be used to further the Gospel, I'm sure God can use someone like Dawkins as well. I would love to see the fallen return to Christ, but that is an individual choice. Maybe Dawkins will have a "road to Damascus" moment as well. Who knows? God does.

Posted by: AnchorPoint at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM (qgPFD)

27 It's okay. We need all the allies we can get and if he can change once, he can change again.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (yeEu9)

28 People are inherently religious. It was almost certainly a factor in our evolution and survival as a species, helping to create family units, parenting structures, agricultural practices, forbidden destructive behaviors, etc. which allowed humans to flourish. But being inherently religious, we’ll rapidly adopt evil religious practices where there is a void from good religions. Anti-humanity death cults (the Church of Climate, radical Islam) have filled the void where Judeo-Christianity has retreated.

I agree with this. People, unlike animals, can foresee the consequences of random bad things happening, so the loss of control over their lives leaves them with dread. Religion allows us to maintain our sanity.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (CsUN+)

29
I would not be happy if, for example, we lost all our cathedrals and our beautiful parish churches.

They won't be lost, they'll just be converted into mosques with a back door for women to enter. Minor structural modification m-fer.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (RKVpM)

30 The atheists posit something much easier to believe in and more easily proved than God: infinite parallel universes.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)
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Except that there is ZERO experimental proof that infinite parallel universes exist. And even if they do, that still means we live a bleak, meaningless existence (our alternate selves are rich, powerful, and banging an endless supply of hotties while we are stuck HERE).

Where's the spiritual fulfillment in that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (7fElN)

31 I believe that's called a free rider problem.
Posted by: ruralcounsel at April 19, 2024 11:07 AM (diMhW)

Not exactly....

Believe or don't, as the Spirit prompts you, but at least don't shit on the institution that tolerates your unbelief, and do what you can to defend it as an ally of sorts, if not a member.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (GkFGh)

32 The painting makes me think of the night I attended my first AA meeting, in a well-lit church. Not in cold weather and not out in the country, but otherwise quite a bit like this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (J2vNu)

33 17 So, I count myself a cultural Christian.

Welcome!

-- Christmas and Easter Christians
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Yeah, we refer to the like as CEO Catholics - Christmas and Easter Only.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2024 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)
_____

Three Day Jews

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 19, 2024 11:10 AM (iFTx/)

34 Without religion, people become nihilistic, hedonistic narcissists. That alternative is preached unceasingly in the media.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM

Even with religion that still happens. We just have to look around us on a daily basis. I call those people plastic Christians. They claim they are good Christians but act the exact opposite of what Christ taught. Take joe biden, nancy pelosi and most democrats for example.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 19, 2024 11:10 AM (QNSds)

35 Militant atheists aren't treated well by militant Muslims.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2024 11:10 AM (rj6Yv)

36 Dawkins clearly did not understand the importance of the protective fence provided by Christian culture before seeking to clear it out.
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Atheism is as often practiced, and as you point out, is its own religion. It isn't a disbelief in G-d, it's a hatred of faith.

But that comes with problems, because faith structures are a human imperative. Some are better than others, but everyone - and every civilization - has one. Atheism is anathema, and it depends on the faithful to provide buttresses. Atheism can only survive when supported by the presence of the faithful, because the deference - sincere or merely for show (e.g, real or the "Pascal's Wager" variety) - of the faithful to G-d and the resulting moderation of their behavior provides a rubric for their own behavior. Atheism can only survive as a going concern when it is areligious rather than antireligious. Pure atheistic morality has no anchor and therefore imposes no limits.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (HnUIn)

37 I'm glad they are waking up to the destruction their are and have caused to our society, but my earnest prayer is that they would start to question their initial stance.

IF Christianity is clearly a superior "civilizational" good, since it reflects God's ordering of his creation, MAYBE you should also reflect on the central truth of Christ.

That would be far more important than simply trying to continue a "cultural" Christianity.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (JMAcK)

38 "I would not be happy if, for example, we lost all our cathedrals and our beautiful parish churches."

We got that covered.

Posted by: Canada at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (mt9oT)

39 Where's the spiritual fulfillment in that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:09 AM (7fElN)

There is none. And I've seen where this is becoming a false doctrine for some Christians. Right up there with reincarnation to 'learn more things' like this life is just kindergarten.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (3CVIc)

40 What does that even mean-"I don't believe a word of the Christian faith?" meaning he doesn't believe that Jesus was the son of God, or that he died and was resurrected or that he doesn't believe in Apostle's Creed, or that doesn't believe in of the words about how we should behave found throughout the New Testament, because for a scientist, Dawkins use very imprecise language.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (XkYcA)

41 Pretty sure the Nuclear reactor powering the Church has gone critical...
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 19, 2024 11:02 AM (QNSds)

Can't quite decipher what you're saying here so I'll just throw out that, in the case of nuclear reactors, the term "critical" means "has achieved a stable chain reaction". It is not, inherently, a bad thing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (nR2nR)

42 I keep picturing this Richard Dawkins guy, whenever I read his name, as being actor/game show host Richard Dawson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (J2vNu)

43 Maybe it's a Cyrus moment, if not a Paul moment....

Hey, I may not be Jewish, but these Jews are pretty great to have around, aren't they?

That sort of thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (GkFGh)

44 * Zombie Christopher Hitchens has entered the post *

https://is.gd/klUtkj

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 19, 2024 11:12 AM (q8LR6)

45 The atheists posit something much easier to believe in and more easily proved than God: infinite parallel universes.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)
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Except that there is ZERO experimental proof that infinite parallel universes exist.

Yeah, that was my point. They can't explain the universe any other way, but to me, IPUs are just handwaving, with no more foundation than any other religion.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:12 AM (CsUN+)

46 42 I keep picturing this Richard Dawkins guy, whenever I read his name, as being actor/game show host Richard Dawson.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (J2vNu)

So I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:12 AM (GkFGh)

47 They will all repent for their anti-Christianity when Islam starts to put them to the sword.

Posted by: ruralcounsel

Most of them will die bleating "But-but-but-I was on your side!"

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 19, 2024 11:12 AM (OUMaO)

48 First Jordan Peterson, now this.
God is subtle and powerful.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 19, 2024 11:12 AM (xcxpd)

49 Special Advisor to SBA: Obama and Hillary Clinton Are Running Biden Admin

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Ahh, a brain trust

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:13 AM (FVME7)

50 I think it is probably very hard for people who have attained a certain level of celebrity and are used to fawning attention from people eagerly wanting to hear their next brilliant brain fart to actually take the first step towards being a Christian, which is say, "I am flawed. I am a sinner."

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2024 11:13 AM (991eG)

51 2 Bridesmaid
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024 11:00 AM (V1/1/)

Where? Is she cute?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 19, 2024 11:13 AM (xcxpd)

52 Dawkins isn't a scientist. He's barely even a philosopher.

He's nuts-to-butts with being a stand up comedian.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:13 AM (GkFGh)

53 The atheists posit something much easier to believe in and more easily proved than God: infinite parallel universes.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)

1. Absolutely everything is the result of a chain of random chances.
2. There is not such thing as free will, We are slaves to the chemical processes in our brain.
3. The "man" is keeping me down.

Fundamentally unserious thinking.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 19, 2024 11:13 AM (nR2nR)

54 So is Dawkins taking the CS Lewis path?

Wasn't Lewis an atheist before making a public conversion to Catholicism?

How long before Dawkins does something similar? Can we expect him to write the next Lion, Witch and Wardrobe?

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (Xn6DF)

55 Thank you, Buck.

For those of us who do not have the 'gift of faith' (whichever philosopher coined that phrase), I do not want to deny anyone that true gift. Old agnostic that I am, I raised my kids as Roman Catholics and hope that my grandchildren will be raised in faith as well.

Beautiful essay.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (MIKMs)

56 Isn't this the story of John Cleese?

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (f1kZG)

57 I watched the film "Freuds Last Session" about a supposed meeting between C.K. Lewis and Freud weeks before his death. I thought it was a beautifully written movie. Both had doubts about their belief in God but neither was afraid to discuss those doubts. Neither preached to each , just discussed their reasons for believing. There were so many layers to the movie I'll have to watch it again.

Posted by: Megthered at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (BolxK)

58 I keep picturing this Richard Dawkins guy, whenever I read his name, as being actor/game show host Richard Dawson.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024
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So I'm not the only one.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024

***
I want to stroll up to Dawkins and ask, "So, Richard, what was Bob Crane really like?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu)

59 At first I thought those trees were columns of billowing black smoke from a church on fire.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (991eG)

60 If there are infinite parallel universes, how did we wind up with this one?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (FVME7)

61 The more I study Christianity, the deeper my own faith grows. It's simply *impossible* for it to be any other way.

I sometimes watch atheists attempt to debate Christians during presentations by Christians and it's almost laughable to watch the atheists flail around when the Christian presenter asks very simple questions.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

There's a very good website that I follow called "History for Atheists." It's done by a guy named Tim O'Neill, who is himself an atheist. But he is also a historian, and believes that, if atheists are going to claim that they follow facts and logic, that they need to get those facts straight. So his site is all about taking various claims that atheists make about Christian history (the burning of the library at Alexandria, the Chruch's attempt to suppress science by persecuting Galileo, etc.) and showing how these claims are just wrong, or at any rate grossly exaggerated to further the atheist cause. I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:15 AM (9yWhg)

62 What does John Cleese count himself as?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2024 11:15 AM (63Dwl)

63 Wasn't Lewis an atheist before making a public conversion to Catholicism?

How long before Dawkins does something similar? Can we expect him to write the next Lion, Witch and Wardrobe?
Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM (Xn6DF)

Lewis converted to the CoE, much to the consternation of his Catholic friend JRR Tolkien.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2024 11:15 AM (rj6Yv)

64 The atheists posit something much easier to believe in and more easily proved than God: infinite parallel universes.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)
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Except that there is ZERO experimental proof that infinite parallel universes exist.

Yeah, that was my point. They can't explain the universe any other way, but to me, IPUs are just handwaving, with no more foundation than any other religion.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:12 AM (CsUN+)
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My pastor talked about the difference between "evidence" and "proof" recently. There is a mountain of evidence that God exists, should anyone choose to look for it, even if there is no proof. There is some interesting evidence that IPUs *could* exist, but again, there's no proof. And they are far more unreachable than God at this point.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:16 AM (7fElN)

65 If the are infinite parallel universes, who cares?

If they're accessible, they're not parallel.

If they're not accessible, they're trivial.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:16 AM (GkFGh)

66 Bridesmaid
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024
*
Where? Is she cute?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 19, 2024

***
"Hey! Lookit all these good-lookin' bridesmaids runnin' around here! Hel-lo, bay-bee!"
(-- "The Big Bopper's Wedding")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:16 AM (J2vNu)

67 Lewis converted to the CoE, much to the consternation of his Catholic friend JRR Tolkien.
Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2024 11:15 AM (rj6Yv)

Oh, right, Church of Engerlond. Well, close enough.

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:16 AM (Xn6DF)

68 "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. "

Matthew 12:30

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2024 11:17 AM (/PTz1)

69 Also noteworthy: Naomi Wolfe, interviewed by Tucker, confesses that she has gone to serious prayer and Scripture-reading recently after observing the thoroughly anti-religious (secularized?) ambience surrounding the Covid event.

Posted by: dad29 at April 19, 2024 11:17 AM (i4oeh)

70 Atheists can never go back farther than the 'big bang'.

Can't answer why it banged. Can't answer what was before it banged.

All their shit falls apart

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:18 AM (3CVIc)

71 Special Advisor to SBA: Obama and Hillary Clinton Are Running Biden Admin

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Ahh, a brain trust
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

No wonder so much shit is fucked up.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2024 11:18 AM (sHgnb)

72
If there are infinite parallel universes, how did we wind up with this one?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:14 AM

This is the one where you are tested daily and have to pick a side in the battle against evil. If given the choice would you really wanna spend infinity strumming a harp?

I think after a while you'd say, 'Put me back in coach. I'm ready."

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2024 11:18 AM (RKVpM)

73 I don't recall ever seeing an AOSHQ post on religion that stayed on the rails. Let's see where this one goes.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2024 11:18 AM (991eG)

74 Just want to toss this out there:

The eclipse last week is evidence that God exists and that he loves us.

If our moon were a little bigger or a little smaller, if it were a little further away or a little closer, if it were moving in a different orbital direction- if it were not perfectly where it is now, we would never know what an eclipse is.

We have 200ish moons in our solar system. "Somehow" we ended up with one that PERFECTLY covers the sun. If it were bigger, the sun would just disappear. If it were the slightest bit smaller, the sun would still shine. (Think about the difference between 99% coverage and 100%. It was a massive difference in experience.)

It is a wonder.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 19, 2024 11:18 AM (JMAcK)

75 1. Absolutely everything is the result of a chain of random chances.
2. There is not such thing as free will, We are slaves to the chemical processes in our brain.
3. The "man" is keeping me down.

Fundamentally unserious thinking.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 19, 2024 11:13 AM (nR2nR)
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When you start crunching numbers for postulate 1 above, you'll find that the probability of random chance creating everything is such a ludicrously ridiculous number that an intelligent Creator makes more sense.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:19 AM (7fElN)

76 I don't recall ever seeing an AOSHQ post on religion that stayed on the rails. Let's see where this one goes.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2024 11:18 AM (991eG)

Christ is King.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

77 Where to begin...

"It's true that statistically, the number of people who actually believe in Christianity is going down and I'm happy with that, but I would not be happy if, for example, we lost all our cathedrals and our beautiful parish churches. So, I count myself a cultural Christian.”

This isn't even being a cultural Christian. Pretty buildings filled with crosses do not a religion make. You want to admire fine architecture? Great. There's a reason these churches are beautiful and feel beautiful.

And the fact that he can't properly reason why he would rather live in a culturally Christian country undermines everything. Something, something higher power...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:20 AM (KbCG3)

78 Legal Expert Warns “Rust” Armourer’s Sentence Is “Bad News” for Alec Baldwin

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And you can believe him. He's an expert.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:20 AM (FVME7)

79 And the fact that he can't properly reason why he would rather live in a culturally Christian country undermines everything. Something, something higher power...
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:20 AM (KbCG3)

"Well, i don't believe in loving my neighbor, but I'm glad my neighbor does. "

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (GkFGh)

80 I'm agnostic myself. But I recognize the obvious benefits that Judeo-Christian religion/ethics has brought to Western society, and especially compared to the savage barbarism of the Muslim world.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 19, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)

Most people don't grasp the savage barbarism of the pre-Christian world, either.

Rome would have been incomprehensible to people today, and it was one of the better societies.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (JMAcK)

81 -
And you can believe him. He's an expert.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:20 AM (FVME7)

"Word."

- - - Al Gore - Climatologist

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

82 My pastor talked about the difference between "evidence" and "proof" recently. There is a mountain of evidence that God exists, should anyone choose to look for it, even if there is no proof. There is some interesting evidence that IPUs *could* exist, but again, there's no proof. And they are far more unreachable than God at this point.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:16 AM (7fElN)

Or the difference between "discovery" and "creation".

When I get into those kinds of discussions, I simply state that my belief in a Creator is based on the evidence that there is just too much order in the Universe to allow rational argument for an alternative.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (rj6Yv)

83 It's quite entertaining to watch some of these allegedly smart people finally grasp the unfolding horrors of a collapsing Western civilization.

Unfortunately it's too late and speaking or writing words about it is futile.

The Black Shirts are in control and destruction is on the menu.

Remember who enabled them. From Dawkins to Tapper, senior Gope Leadership and the corrupt grifters on the right.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (tN3kf)

84 I keep picturing this Richard Dawkins guy, whenever I read his name, as being actor/game show host Richard Dawson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:11 AM (J2vNu)

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Will never forget the hilarious episode (as related to me by a friend) of "Family Feud" where the question was "Name a famous Rudolf" and after guessing well-known ones like "The Red-Nosed Reindeer" and "Valentino" ... went with "Rudolph Hilter."

Richard Dawson apparently kept a non-believing straight face, looked at the laughing crowd, turned to the board, gave a big sweep of his arm, and said: "SHOW ME THE INFAMOUS "RUDOLPH HILTER!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (q8LR6)

85 Nothing makes Christianity shine so brightly as to compare it to Islam.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 11:22 AM (jbnUc)

86
Rome would have been incomprehensible to people today, and it was one of the better societies.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (JMAcK)

History didn't exist until Owebama was elected.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

87 The cult of Science really let their mask slip, which I think hurts their position re: theism vs atheism.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:22 AM (3CVIc)

88
85 Nothing makes Christianity shine so brightly as to compare it to Islam.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 11:22 AM (jbnUc)

True but you could say the same with any other religion compared to Islam.

Scientology looks great next to Islam.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (3CVIc)

89 The traditional soaring music from the pipe organ, the concert grand piano and, occasionally the choir, reflects our longing for our true home.

Then the sermon brings it all crashing back to earth.

If the church service was primarily the musical program and Christian rituals, e.g., recital of the creed, holy communion, with the sermon replaced by private study and reflection with an Ace of Spades HQ thread for discussion, that would be a very fine thing.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (ogTiX)

90 The eclipse last week is evidence that God exists and that he loves us.

If our moon were a little bigger or a little smaller, if it were a little further away or a little closer, if it were moving in a different orbital direction- if it were not perfectly where it is now, we would never know what an eclipse is.

We have 200ish moons in our solar system. "Somehow" we ended up with one that PERFECTLY covers the sun. If it were bigger, the sun would just disappear. If it were the slightest bit smaller, the sun would still shine. (Think about the difference between 99% coverage and 100%. It was a massive difference in experience.)

It is a wonder.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 19, 2024

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And if Luna were much closer and still had its current mass and density, the Earth would be afflicted by tremendous tides, and possibly more and stronger earthquakes. Our species would have had a hard time surviving.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

91 If our moon were a little bigger or a little smaller, if it were a little further away or a little closer, if it were moving in a different orbital direction- if it were not perfectly where it is now, we would never know what an eclipse is.

Ask the flat earfers, if the earth were flat, why doesn't EVERYONE on earth have night and day at the same time?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (sHgnb)

92
Scientology looks great next to Islam.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (3CVIc)

RAPE!

Posted by: Danny Masterson at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

93 When you start crunching numbers for postulate 1 above, you'll find that the probability of random chance creating everything is such a ludicrously ridiculous number that an intelligent Creator makes more sense.

It's easy to be led astray by this approach, though. Stephen Meyer has made a career out of it, and is very persuasive, but there is a counter. He'll say "what are the odds that x happens in this exact way without intelligent design?" (actually paraphrasing) However, I could say the same thing about my morning bagel. What are the odds that that exact bagel would exist on my plate? I'd have to calculate things like the positions of the various atoms in the bagel, which would generate an astronomical number of zeros. Therefore, my bagel could not exist.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (CsUN+)

94 I keep picturing this Richard Dawkins guy, whenever I read his name, as being actor/game show host Richard Dawson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I've read that he was a real prick when he was in Hogan's Heroes. He thought the show should revolve around his character.

On the other hand, he was married to Diana Dorrs, so there's that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (9yWhg)

95 "Surprised by Joy" is the book by C.S. Lewis about being confirmed in the church as a kid, his rejection of Christianity and his coming back to religious faith. It's subtitle is called "The Shape of MY Early Life"and it contains a lot about his school days, his reading and his coming to Oxford. It was made into a film called "The Most Reluctant Convert"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (XkYcA)

96 Scientology looks great next to Islam.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (3CVIc)

Jim Jones would get at least a sidelong glance...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (GkFGh)

97 Woke Marvel Studios Lays off Staff, Says It’s Reducing Output

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Noooooo!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (FVME7)

98 The cult of Science really let their mask slip, which I think hurts their position re: theism vs atheism.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:22 AM (3CVIc)
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What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (7fElN)

99 FenSpoke should be on this thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)

100 Same reason why people who believed in Santa are nevertheless better people even if they're wrong.

Posted by: cpurick at April 19, 2024 11:25 AM (lNjg1)

101 Screw this cultural Christian crap. Atheists think there is no greater power than themselves, and that the universe revolves around themselves, their beautiful self-ish (to quote the always astute Johnny Rotten).

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 19, 2024 11:25 AM (wBaIH)

102 I would certainly rather live under a regime ordered by the Ten Commandments than any other quasi-ethical system.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 19, 2024 11:25 AM (MIKMs)

103 So Dawkins is exactly like the clergy in the Anglican Church. Atheists that promote Christianity.

Posted by: polynikes at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (MNhXM)

104 I believe that's called a free rider problem.
Posted by: ruralcounsel

I don't think that really is a problem at the end of all things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (IG4Id)

105 \

I've read that he was a real prick when he was in Hogan's Heroes. He thought the show should revolve around his character.

On the other hand, he was married to Diana Dorrs, so there's that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (9yWhg)

He was the go to guy on The Match Game.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

106 What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (7fElN)

That's what I always said. If you're a real scientist or a mathematician, you should be convinced of God.

One study of fractals should do it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (3CVIc)

107 And if Luna were much closer and still had its current mass and density, the Earth would be afflicted by tremendous tides, and possibly more and stronger earthquakes. Our species would have had a hard time surviving.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

Talking with my four-year-old son the other day and he started talking about where we get oxygen. And it just got me thinking how perfectly our world was brought together.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

108 I have always said that some of the most religious people I know are "atheists".

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (lg881)

109 Woke Marvel Studios Lays off Staff, Says It’s Reducing Output

Anyway.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

110 Isn't this the story of John Cleese?
Posted by: Darth Randall

He's done some back-flips into leftism again. So, no. Weak sister syndrome.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2024 11:26 AM (IG4Id)

111 And if Luna were much closer and still had its current mass and density, the Earth would be afflicted by tremendous tides, and possibly more and stronger earthquakes. Our species would have had a hard time surviving.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

Shake, rattle, roll. Shine on harvest moon.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2024 11:27 AM (rj6Yv)

112 "I don't recall ever seeing an AOSHQ post on religion that stayed on the rails."

I'll stay on the rails. I worship trains.

Posted by: Slow Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:27 AM (v3XCI)

113 I've read that he was a real prick when he was in Hogan's Heroes. He thought the show should revolve around his character.

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They could've renamed it Newkirk's Knickerbockers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:27 AM (FVME7)

114 "I'm not talking about individual Muslims, who, of course, are all quite different"

Nonsense.

Practicing muslims are pretty much a known quantity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on being wage slaves until they're 80 years old U GO GIRLS at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (JuA5P)

115 I would certainly rather live under a regime ordered by the Ten Commandments than any other quasi-ethical system.
Posted by: mustbequantum

Amen.
Otherwise, I could be a real prick.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (sHgnb)

116 30
‘ Where's the spiritual fulfillment in that?’

Where’s Mrs. Squirrel’s reaction to your wanting to spend your time banging hotties?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (jbnUc)

117 Atheist don't even believe they are right.

Or they would be the most furiously productive people, to at least leave a legacy, as this is it.

Or absolute hedonists, as this is it.

Instead, they carry on like everyone

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (yikga)

118 What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.

My daughter once asked me how I, a scientist, could believe in God. I replied that it took me months to set up simple experiments that more often than not went wrong, and I'm supposed to believe that the order in the universe just...happens? And yes, I have a reasonable understanding of entropy and statistical mechanics.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (CsUN+)

119 Screw this cultural Christian crap. Atheists think there is no greater power than themselves, and that the universe revolves around themselves, their beautiful self-ish (to quote the always astute Johnny Rotten).

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

Pick one: cultural 'Christian' or programmed marxist.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2024 11:29 AM (IG4Id)

120 I saw Culture Christian open for Fine Young Cannibals at the Manhole Club back in 2002.
Posted by: Pawl at April 19, 2024 11:03 AM (vFG9F)

was that the one with Culture Club as a special guest?

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 19, 2024 11:29 AM (bving)

121 We have 200ish moons in our solar system. "Somehow" we ended up with one that PERFECTLY covers the sun. If it were bigger, the sun would just disappear. If it were the slightest bit smaller, the sun would still shine. (Think about the difference between 99% coverage and 100%. It was a massive difference in experience.)

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Shut up because lightning struck a mud puddle and chaos arranged itself into beautiful order like what you noticed with the eclipse.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on being wage slaves until they're 80 years old U GO GIRLS at April 19, 2024 11:29 AM (JuA5P)

122 30
‘ Where's the spiritual fulfillment in that?’

Where’s Mrs. Squirrel’s reaction to your wanting to spend your time banging hotties?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (jbnUc)
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There is no Mrs. Squirrel in this universe...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:29 AM (7fElN)

123 Dawkins has come around to the same conclusions as Douglas Murray.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (sH3/P)

124 Screw this cultural Christian crap. Atheists think there is no greater power than themselves, and that the universe revolves around themselves, their beautiful self-ish (to quote the always astute Johnny Rotten).

I'll take it. If they start behaving according to Christian principles, that's an unalloyed good.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (CsUN+)

125 Just the structure and design of nothing is amazing beyond comprehension, before you even start putting stuff into it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (GkFGh)

126 Per Dennis Prager and the following PragerU video by Peter Kreeft (atheism requires a greater leap of faith than belief in God):

http://tiny.cc/2w3txz

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (q8LR6)

127 Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:24 AM (CsUN+)

As usual with Leftists they aren’t capable of making logical comparisons.

The argument is not the odds to create an exact replica but to creat any bagel. And the bagel he refers to was created by a intelligent being.

Posted by: polynikes at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (MNhXM)

128 118 What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.

My daughter once asked me how I, a scientist, could believe in God. I replied that it took me months to set up simple experiments that more often than not went wrong, and I'm supposed to believe that the order in the universe just...happens? And yes, I have a reasonable understanding of entropy and statistical mechanics.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:28 AM (CsUN+)

Isn't it as simple as, science explains things.

What explains science?

(Probably a better comment if read stoned)

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3)

129 What does John Cleese count himself as?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2024 11:15 AM (63Dwl)
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John Cleese is very much a "progressive" and pushed for many of the changes that have occurred in England. Then one day he woke up as an old white man and realized that the England he grew up in was gone. That the following generations of people didn't look like him and didn't hold his same values. That as an Old White Man he was now the devil.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (f1kZG)

130 What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.

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(lightning bugs have entered the chat)

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on being wage slaves until they're 80 years old U GO GIRLS at April 19, 2024 11:31 AM (JuA5P)

131 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024 11:31 AM (V1/1/)

132 So, are these people who've had some sort of revelation about their notions of religion, ideology, sexual orientation or whatever being honest, or are they hedging against something?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2024 11:32 AM (Q4IgG)

133 Isn't it as simple as, science explains things.

What explains science?

(Probably a better comment if read stoned)

Duuuuuuude.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:32 AM (CsUN+)

134 When people talk about the wonders of the universe, they always talk about the astronomical phenomena -- planets, stars, galaxies, etc. And it's fine to be in awe of those.

But lately, with my various health issues, I have started to look at equally marvelous phenomena at the opposite end of the scale -- the myriad physical and chemical processes that take place every second inside our own bodies. These are the processes that keep us alive, but they take place, for the most part, without or knowing or thinking much about them. These things are as amazing as the movements of the cosmos, even when, as in my post-29 case, they don't always work as flawlessly as they used to.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:32 AM (9yWhg)

135 On the other hand, he was married to Diana Dorrs, so there's that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Born - Diana Mary Fluck. There's a name for you.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2024 11:32 AM (WXNFJ)

136 40
‘ for a scientist, Dawkins use very imprecise language.’

He hasn’t given his atheism much analysis, hasn’t he?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (jbnUc)

137 I'll take it. If they start behaving according to Christian principles, that's an unalloyed good.
Posted by: Archimedes

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Agreed. Even if people didn't believe in God they recognized that adhering to the 10 Commandments provided an orderly, functional society.

Quick, remove the 10 Commandments from courthouses!

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on being wage slaves until they're 80 years old U GO GIRLS at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (JuA5P)

138 Loved him in Hogan's Heroes.

Posted by: Newkirk at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (LqU2m)

139 Well, here's a religious story.

Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel Breaks Silence with a Powerful Message to Attacker After Stabbing

https://shorturl.at/fhszA

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I must say, I don't agree with everything he says here.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (FVME7)

140
I make a distinction between atheists and Christophobic anti-religious hate bigots. The former are people who don't or can't believe. The latter want to make sure those who do can't practice their faith, at least in public.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (MoZTd)

141 The dihedral angle of the water molecule. Change it a tiny bit either way and life as we know it becomes impossible.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (GkFGh)

142 Isn't it as simple as, science explains things.

What explains science?

(Probably a better comment if read stoned)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3)
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Science is great about explaining "what" and "how."

It tends to fail miserably when explaining "why."

WHY did the universe come into being?

WHY is it so darn big?

WHY did humans evolve as we did?

WHY do we have consciousness?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (7fElN)

143 National Review: It’s 1892 All Over Again

https://archive.is/W08Td

It's a pretty entertaining read.

From the article: Robert Ingersoll quipped of the two parties that “each side would have been glad to defeat the other, if it could do so without electing its own candidate.”

Sounds familiar.

Via Instapundit.

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:34 AM (ajS0Q)

144 42
‘ game show host Richard Dawson.’

Richard Dawson is the one who already knows whether God is real.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

145 I've met very few actual atheists in my life.

I've met scores of anti-theists. Very different animal.

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (pgwxJ)

146 You can go the rest of your life without breathing.

Posted by: Try and see at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (LqU2m)

147 Just the structure and design of nothing is amazing beyond comprehension, before you even start putting stuff into it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:30 AM (GkFGh)

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Merely studying the anatomy of the miraculous human body is enough to believe in intelligent design, not to mention the Goldilocks Conditions that have allowed life to flourish on Earth as well as the Code of DNA which implies a coder/programmer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (q8LR6)

148 Alex O'Connor, who is the anti-Jordan Peterson (he's a leftwing atheist but a good person at discussing issues as opposed to just yelling racist like most leftists) accidentally made an interesting point in his debate with Jordan Peterson namely:

Of course the sort of Christian society you are talking about is a better one to live in. I just don't believe in God. Do you expect me to live a lie?

And its interesting because then that should prompt some deep reflection on WHY such a society is better. Random chance isn't a good answer.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (ibTVg)

149 Statism, not Islam, replaced Christianity in Europe. Though Islam is making inroads because Statism is soulless.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (nvtOt)

150 Kate Upton is also proof that God exists.

But perhaps that Satan does as well.

Posted by: Wally at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (v3XCI)

151 >>> Nonsense.

Practicing muslims are pretty much a known quantity.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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It's not necessary for them to be practicing muslims. If they are raised in that M.E. mindset (see:MI) that's all that's necessary.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 19, 2024 11:35 AM (Dv2Ug)

152 But lately, with my various health issues, I have started to look at equally marvelous phenomena at the opposite end of the scale -- the myriad physical and chemical processes that take place every second inside our own bodies. These are the processes that keep us alive, but they take place, for the most part, without or knowing or thinking much about them. These things are as amazing as the movements of the cosmos, even when, as in my post-29 case, they don't always work as flawlessly as they used to.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:32 AM (9yWhg)
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This is also true. I can't look at the tip of my finger without being in awe of the mystical atomic/chemical/biological processes that are involved just in that small 1 cubic centimeter of flesh, blood, and bone. Then multiply that by the rest of my body. Then multiply that by all the other humans on earth.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (7fElN)

153 Reuters Reports Iran Mere “Weeks or Days” from Having Enough Nuclear Material for a Bomb

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What's the worst that could happen? The only bright spot is that it is Reuters saying it so it's probably not true.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (FVME7)

154 John Cleese is very much a "progressive" and pushed for many of the changes that have occurred in England. Then one day he woke up as an old white man and realized that the England he grew up in was gone. That the following generations of people didn't look like him and didn't hold his same values. That as an Old White Man he was now the devil.
Posted by: Darth Randall

The fun part of his story is that when he got his cheese he fucked off to Santa Barbara and bought a winery. Someone, not me, should make a parody of his life and grind his story into the ashtray.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (IG4Id)

155 Did you hear about all the atheists rioting several years ago?

They found a blank piece of paper on someone's desk.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (9yWhg)

156 >>>The dihedral angle of the water molecule. Change it a tiny bit either way and life as we know it becomes impossible.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:33 AM (GkFGh)

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Sounds suspiciously close to math.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (s7R54)

157 Which was the first ape in the progression with an eternal soul?

Posted by: I would like to know at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (LqU2m)

158 There is the thought
If you don't believe in God you will believe in anything.
Leftism has making up its own science without a bit of reality

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024 11:37 AM (V1/1/)

159 The dihedral angle of the water molecule. Change it a tiny bit either way and life as we know it becomes impossible.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024

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The very fact that, unlike most substances we know, water *expands* as it freezes, and thus floats. Otherwise the oceans would have frozen from the bottom up. Life would have been impossible too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:37 AM (J2vNu)

160 Nonsense.

Practicing muslims are pretty much a known quantity.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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It's not necessary for them to be practicing muslims. If they are raised in that M.E. mindset (see:MI) that's all that's necessary.
Posted by: Braenyard

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Oh, absolutely. What I meant was that praying/practicing Muslims are very reliable in their desires, and their desires don't involve you living or being submissive if they allow you to live if you're not a Muslim.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on being wage slaves until they're 80 years old U GO GIRLS at April 19, 2024 11:37 AM (JuA5P)

161 We should have nipped the anti Christian shit in the bud and by no in the bud I mean violently ended it. Not modern day Christian wise Old Testament wise.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 19, 2024 11:37 AM (17s+e)

162 When I get into those kinds of discussions, I simply state that my belief in a Creator is based on the evidence that there is just too much order in the Universe to allow rational argument for an alternative.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2024 11:21 AM (rj6Yv)

My Mother told me once that believing is simply and act of faith. One chooses to believe.

Posted by: javems at April 19, 2024 11:37 AM (zMue3)

163 WHY do we have consciousness?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I've always been amazed that our memories are recalled by brain chemicals.

How da **** did that happen?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (WXNFJ)

164 I have to point out that C S Lewis utterly despised the "cultural Christian" posture.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (1bNHn)

165 Sounds suspiciously close to math.
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (s7R54)

It's exactly a hundred and something point something.

Hopefully that's unmathy enough for us.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (GkFGh)

166 Which was the first ape in the progression with an eternal soul?
Posted by: I would like to know at April 19, 2024

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The one who tossed the antelope bone in the air in the prologue to 2001: A Space Odyssey!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)

167 Statism, not Islam, replaced Christianity in Europe. Though Islam is making inroads because Statism is soulless.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

There's a lot in that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (IG4Id)

168 The human body itself is amazing. That this mass of cells actually formed a breathing, walking creature with a brain. And most of the time it works flawlessly. When it doesn't, the brain trys to think of ways to fix it. The only flaw I see is the birthing process. That definitely needs updating.

Posted by: Megthered at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (BolxK)

169 Freedom in the traditional sense only seems to come about in a Christian society. Yes yes you can be some oddball dissenter and do your own thing but when a certain percentage of the population goes atheist, or some malevolent religion like Islam, things go to shit.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (ibTVg)

170 Reuters Reports Iran Mere “Weeks or Days” from Having Enough Nuclear Material for a Bomb

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What's the worst that could happen? The only bright spot is that it is Reuters saying it so it's probably not true.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (FVME7)

At the risk of sounding like an ass I've been hearing that for over 20 years now. I'm pretty much at the point that I'll believe Iran has the bomb when Jerusalem disappears under a mushroom cloud.

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (3HcJ4)

171 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (7fElN)

The body is it’s own universe

Posted by: polynikes at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (MNhXM)

172 I saw Dawkins make this stunning admission on a YT video and my jaw dropped. I shared it at a men's group and they too were stunned.

Dawkins helped light the fires that have pushed Christianity aside in the west. And now he is complaining that the house is on fire. Truly a remarkable conclusion on his part. It's not at all clear there is time to reverse the catastrophe and conflagration he helped ignite.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at April 19, 2024 11:39 AM (mQxC9)

173 168 The human body itself is amazing. That this mass of cells actually formed a breathing, walking creature with a brain. And most of the time it works flawlessly. When it doesn't, the brain trys to think of ways to fix it. The only flaw I see is the birthing process. That definitely needs updating.

Posted by: Megthered at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (BolxK)

Mating process is pretty sweet, though.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:39 AM (KbCG3)

174
It's cute the way evangelical atheists pretend atheism was something developed last week, whereas it has a long and miserable history.

All those "officially atheist" states? They all disappeared without a trace, unmourned, having produced nothing except death and a ruined people.

And now that Europe has largely de-Christianized and de-Judeified itself, it's become a backwater, prey to climate apocalypsm.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2024 11:39 AM (MoZTd)

175 Which was the first ape in the progression with an eternal soul?
Posted by: I would like to know at April 19, 2024

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The one who tossed the ~~antelope~~ bone in the air in the prologue to 2001: A Space Odyssey!

Tapir.

*Tries hard not to be pedantic ass. Fails.*

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:40 AM (CsUN+)

176 The human species is the only one that knows it will one day die.

Posted by: Think about it at April 19, 2024 11:40 AM (LqU2m)

177 Statism, not Islam, replaced Christianity in Europe. Though Islam is making inroads because Statism is soulless.

Statism has tried to become more of a real religion repeatedly with communism of various flavors, environmentalism, and now woke-ism but...its always going to be a poor one and yes even compared to something like Islam.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (ibTVg)

178 My thinking is no matter what Europeans are believing, Muslims are invading and Europeans are not stopping it.
The Marxists here are letting them in, it's just they are not close enough to take over the Invasion.

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (V1/1/)

179 With Gang Chaos Continuing, Haiti Belatedly Creates “Presidential Transition Council”

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Ahh, the main course.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (FVME7)

180 dawkins has long had an animus to islam, but he like maher hitchens et al eroded the foundation,

Islam is a cut and paste inversion of jewish culturat traits, cooked up by a madman,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (PXvVL)

181 Reuters Reports Iran Mere “Weeks or Days” from Having Enough Nuclear Material for a Bomb

Reuters, so I call bullshit on this “reporting.”

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (17s+e)

182 171 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM (7fElN)

The body is it’s own universe
Posted by: polynikes at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (MNhXM)

"And a wonderland"
-John Mayer

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (xcxpd)

183 The one who tossed the ~~antelope~~ bone in the air in the prologue to 2001: A Space Odyssey!

Tapir.

*Tries hard not to be pedantic ass. Fails.*
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024

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Been a long time since I saw the flick. It has never been a favorite of mine.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:41 AM (J2vNu)

184
Tapir.

*Tries hard not to be pedantic ass. Fails.*
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:40 AM (CsUN+)

_________

*rolls eyes*
*shakes head*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (MoZTd)

185 I've only been attending church for the past few months but I will say, I leave each service feeling so much better than I did when I entered.

It's nourishing, even if I don't quite understand or believe everything I hear.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (KbCG3)

186 Nothing an atheist likes to talk about more than God.

Posted by: Have ya ever noticed? at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (LqU2m)

187 yes theyve had 30 years and the best Russian Pakistan scientists and have not gotten around to it,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (PXvVL)

188 Tapir? I never even knew her.

Posted by: Slow Joe Biden at April 19, 2024 11:43 AM (v3XCI)

189 176 The human species is the only one that knows it will one day die.

Posted by: Think about it at April 19, 2024 11:40 AM (LqU2m)

I've often wondered if squirrels were aware of their mortality. And if they suddenly became aware, you think they'd jump from tree to tree with their current state of arrogance?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:43 AM (KbCG3)

190 Now for the deep questions. How does one pronounce desertification? According to Google, it's DESertification.

I've always said deSERTification, but that means the world is turning into eclairs.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+)

191 The human body itself is amazing. That this mass of cells actually formed a breathing, walking creature with a brain. And most of the time it works flawlessly. When it doesn't, the brain trys to think of ways to fix it. The only flaw I see is the birthing process. That definitely needs updating.
Posted by: Megthered at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (BolxK)
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A large part of medicine is NOT repairing the body, but in holding it together long enough for our natural repair mechanisms to take over and do their job.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:44 AM (7fElN)

192 Islam is a cut and paste inversion of jewish culturat traits, cooked up by a madman,
Posted by: no 6

He stole stuff from Christianity, too. Supposedly, the Virgin Mary is pretty popular with Muzzies.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:44 AM (9yWhg)

193 Lotta real dumb experts.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 19, 2024 11:44 AM (R4t5M)

194 Statism is a religion pretending to be form of politics.

Islam is a form of politics pretending to be a religion.

The two are almost identical lies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 19, 2024 11:44 AM (17s+e)

195 186 Nothing an atheist likes to talk about more than God.

Posted by: Have ya ever noticed? at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (LqU2m)

I guess condescending righteousness is a form of talk.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (KbCG3)

196 Everyone knows that Hogan's Heroes should have revolved around my character.

Posted by: Gnadige Frau Linkmeyer at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (V5BDR)

197 I've often wondered if squirrels were aware of their mortality. And if they suddenly became aware, you think they'd jump from tree to tree with their current state of arrogance?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

They apparently like to commit suicide around here. Why else would one wait by the side of the road until a vehicle approaches and then run into the street?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (WXNFJ)

198 Utter hamdouche Mike Johnson calls out White privilege...oh, and another 100+ billion about to fly out the door to be properly laundered and folded.

James Woods noted that they probably have this guy on tape fucking a goat.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (YIxO9)

199 >>>At the risk of sounding like an ass I've been hearing that for over 20 years now. I'm pretty much at the point that I'll believe Iran has the bomb when Jerusalem disappears under a mushroom cloud.
Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:38 AM (3HcJ4)
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Or, more probably when Tehran disappears under a mushroom cloud.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (Z8Xq7)

200 that would seem unlikely,

I know it's in keeping with clarke and kubrick's aesthetic choices, but who would through a jaw bone it's a useful tool right,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (PXvVL)

201 I've only been attending church for the past few months but I will say, I leave each service feeling so much better than I did when I entered.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
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I've had the same reaction since I've started attending a local church. I've also been attending the men's group at church and it's just incredible how good I feel whenever I leave both.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (7fElN)

202 197 I've often wondered if squirrels were aware of their mortality. And if they suddenly became aware, you think they'd jump from tree to tree with their current state of arrogance?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

They apparently like to commit suicide around here. Why else would one wait by the side of the road until a vehicle approaches and then run into the street?
Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (WXNFJ)

No lie, few weeks ago I was driving and within a quarter mile there were four squashed squirrels in the road. Was like their version of Jonestown.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (KbCG3)

203 So, there's anecdotal reports that in the USA, at least, there's been a spike of conversions to Orthodox Christianity.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (dZw/v)

204 What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.
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Charles Darwin.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (MIKMs)

205 I've only been attending church for the past few months but I will say, I leave each service feeling so much better than I did when I entered.

It's nourishing, even if I don't quite understand or believe everything I hear.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

My son once said that you "feel clean" after going to church.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (9yWhg)

206
Or, more probably when Tehran disappears under a mushroom cloud.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (Z8Xq7)

__________

"Push the button, Mohammed!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2024 11:47 AM (MoZTd)

207 James Woods noted that they probably have this guy on tape fucking a goat.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (YIxO9)

A man of culture, I see.

Posted by: Achmed at April 19, 2024 11:47 AM (3QeU/)

208 James Woods noted that they probably have this guy on tape fucking a goat.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM (YIxO9)

If they do, I'll betcha he's the bottom.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:47 AM (GkFGh)

209 It's nourishing, even if I don't quite understand or believe everything I hear.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (KbCG3)

If it's nourishing, it means you are understanding the message.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 19, 2024 11:48 AM (R4t5M)

210 Interest Payments on the National Debt Are Getting Scary

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Thank God I don't believe in math!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:48 AM (FVME7)

211 yes its a terrible retcon of all the previous traditions in the region, how exactly did it gain such currency

yes by the sword, but the byzantines had swords did they not,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:48 AM (PXvVL)

212 I dunno about confession...seeing that the Republican House just pushed through legislation to mandate having to share information with federal agents.

I don't trust any fucking priest any further than I can throw him, and I sing in the choir.

As I mentioned a few days ago, I think we overreacted a tad to 9/11.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 19, 2024 11:48 AM (YIxO9)

213 The human species is the only one that knows it will one day die.

Posted by: Think about it at April 19, 2024

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Little Tatiana the Wonder Siberian was never in great health for her less than four years on the planet. But she played hard and lived intensely, for an indoor cat. It's almost as if she knew she didn't have much time and wanted to fit as much experience and fun into her short life as she could manage.

Of course, this is me, the human, applying my imagination. But it helps me remember her as she was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:49 AM (J2vNu)

214 Fun fact about Hogan's Hero's. Every exterior scene has snow on the ground. The producers never wanted to transmit the messages that the stalag was a pleasant place.

Posted by: Kinda neat at April 19, 2024 11:49 AM (LqU2m)

215 201 I've only been attending church for the past few months but I will say, I leave each service feeling so much better than I did when I entered.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
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I've had the same reaction since I've started attending a local church. I've also been attending the men's group at church and it's just incredible how good I feel whenever I leave both.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM (7fElN)

Haven't quite had the time to explore a further group but probably going to soon. Be interested to know if there are fellow skeptics who can't deny what they feel.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 19, 2024 11:49 AM (KbCG3)

216 The Old Testament is rife with stories of how the Jews turned their backs to God and were punished until they saw the error of their ways. Moses, who showed the glory and power of God to the Israelites over and over again on their way out of Egypt, goes up the mountain for forty days and comes back to see them worshipping a golden calf.

So this is a human condition to make our own Gods to serve us instead of serving God. Been going on for a while.

So laugh all you want at the "sky daddy" while practicing your global warming religion. But don't imagine that you've done anything but replace one for the other.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 19, 2024 11:50 AM (FCbAQ)

217 What is Orthodox Christianity? I have never heard of it. Is it old time religion, fire and brimstone, Latin mass?

Posted by: Megthered at April 19, 2024 11:50 AM (BolxK)

218 Meanwhile, at CNN: "‘I’m actually going to vomit’: Ecstatic Swift fan reacts to new album"

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 19, 2024 11:51 AM (MvF+J)

219 So laugh all you want at the "sky daddy" while practicing your global warming religion. But don't imagine that you've done anything but replace one for the other.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 19, 2024 11:50 AM (FCbAQ)

They love kneeling down in front of Baals, alright.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:51 AM (GkFGh)

220 "I must say I'm slightly horrified to hear that Ramadan is being promoted instead," Dawkins said in an interview with Rachel S. Johnson of LBC Sunday. "I feel that we are a Christian country."

It's almost as if Christianity itself is a Chesterton's Fence.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2024 11:51 AM (2ocoG)

221 yes and he brought them out of Egypt, and they still didn't get the point they were worshiping one of the Old Gods,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:52 AM (PXvVL)

222 176 I am not so sure about that. Animals see others die, elephants especially seem to honor passing family

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024 11:53 AM (V1/1/)

223 >>So laugh all you want at the "sky daddy" while practicing your global warming religion. But don't imagine that you've done anything but replace one for the other.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 19, 2024 11:50 AM (FCbAQ)
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Not really, the adherents to the religion of global warming won’t leave you alone to live in peace. Big difference.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at April 19, 2024 11:53 AM (Z8Xq7)

224 Recommended: David Suchet's NIV audio bible from Audible. Awesome.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 19, 2024 11:53 AM (MvF+J)

225
I dunno about confession...seeing that the Republican House just pushed through legislation to mandate having to share information with federal agents.

__________

A good reason to have old-fashioned confessionals.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2024 11:53 AM (MoZTd)

226 I’ve found that most of society’s ill can be traced to narcissism and belligerent atheists

Posted by: SMOD at April 19, 2024 11:54 AM (RHGPo)

227 when you watch the Ten Commandments now, you see how People can delude themselves,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:54 AM (PXvVL)

228 Israel said they will not allow a nuclear Iran.
Iran goes nuclear they are pushing their own button.
I tolla you so.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 19, 2024 11:54 AM (Dv2Ug)

229 Richard Dawkins? That butthole! He's why I have to deal with all of these sea otters!

Posted by: Cartman at April 19, 2024 11:54 AM (yOPBE)

230 The human species is the only one that knows it will one day die.

Posted by: Think about it at April 19, 2024

That is an unverifiable statement, since we can never know for sure what goes on in the minds of animals. However, some animals, such as elephants, have been observed to go through what seem like mourning/funerary rites when one dies, so that would seem to imply some awareness of death on their part.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:54 AM (9yWhg)

231 Trial of Ex-FBI Informant Tied to Biden Bribery Allegations Postponed Until After Election

https://tinyurl.com/mrxtduxc

They're not even hiding it.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (CsUN+)

232 What is Orthodox Christianity? I have never heard of it. Is it old time religion, fire and brimstone, Latin mass?
Posted by: Megthered at April 19, 2024 11:50 AM (BolxK)

In a lot of ways, it's basically catholicism without Rome. Lot of stylistic differences, lots of administrative differences, but doctrinally you kinda have to dig. Outside of the filioque dispute which kicked off the schism in the first place, i don't even know of any actual doctrinal differences in terms of the faith itself and how it works.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (GkFGh)

233 231 Trial of Ex-FBI Informant Tied to Biden Bribery Allegations Postponed Until After Election

https://tinyurl.com/mrxtduxc

They're not even hiding it.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (CsUN+)

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They wouldn't do this if we had a better candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

234 However, some animals, such as elephants, have been observed to go through what seem like mourning/funerary rites when one dies, so that would seem to imply some awareness of death on their part.

Quite a few birds as well.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (2ocoG)

235 I am not so sure about that. Animals see others die, elephants especially seem to honor passing family
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2024

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But can they extrapolate from that to realize the same thing will happen to them? Most animals don't seem to have a strong concept of "the future."

Still, we're finding they are often more intelligent than we've traditionally thought.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (J2vNu)

236 Appreciate this Morning Rant, Buck. Thanks.

I've consider myself a Christian my entire life. I've failed many a time but, hopefully, have been redeemed to some degree, too. Only with age do I get "Let Go and Give it to God," and that it's not easy to follow.

YTG, 'CS Lewis & “What Let Go and Let God” really means' May 18, 2016. In part, "“Let go and let God.”
In part, "It’s likely most people who use this phase have no idea where it came from. The Keswick Convention, begun in the late 19th Century, popularized this phrase. The “let go” means to surrender everything to God. The “let God” means to yield to His guiding and directing of our lives."

IDK. Like I said, more solid belief & internal peace but it has come with age. 🙏💕

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 19, 2024 11:56 AM (NFX2v)

237 Former agnostic here. It’s a sample size of one but I was def not an atheist. Today I am sort of a Christian. Baby steps.

Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2024 11:56 AM (9Z02M)

238 > I am not so sure about that. Animals see others die
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A stray dog killed one of our cats many years ago. We were away when it happened. The other cats were, agitated and kept running over to the body and meowing. It took us awhile to go look.

I think "they know."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2024 11:56 AM (Q4IgG)

239 Not really, the adherents to the religion of global warming won’t leave you alone to live in peace. Big difference.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at April 19, 2024 11:53 AM (Z8Xq7)

Neither will we.

Posted by: Jehovah's Witnesses and Muslims at April 19, 2024 11:57 AM (FCbAQ)

240 ah yes Cartman, the sage of the age,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 11:57 AM (PXvVL)

241 Outside of the filioque dispute which kicked off the schism in the first place, i don't even know of any actual doctrinal differences in terms of the faith itself and how it works.

IIRC, the Filioque Dispute preceded the Rectification of the Vuldronaii.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 11:57 AM (CsUN+)

242 What is Orthodox Christianity?

The Eastern half of the Great Schism of 1054. Eastern Orthodoxy, Russian Orthodoxy, etc.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 11:57 AM (9yWhg)

243 Poor elephants.

Imagine the depth of your grief at a loss if you don't even know what death is.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024 11:57 AM (GkFGh)

244 Meanwhile, at CNN: "‘I’m actually going to vomit’: Ecstatic Swift fan reacts to new album"
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 19, 2024 11:51 AM (MvF+J)

https://tinyurl.com/yuuns2h7

This is the problem with cultivating a fan base of middle aged queers who all wish they were 10 year old girls.

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 11:58 AM (3QeU/)

245 Poor elephants.

Imagine the depth of your grief at a loss if you don't even know what death is.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2024

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Richard Adams's rabbits in Watership Down had the phrase, "My friend stopped running today."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 11:59 AM (J2vNu)

246 Donkey Chompers invents a new oxymoron.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
What is going on here @BarnardCollege @Columbia?
How does a student with no disciplinary record suddenly get to a suspension less than 24 hours after a nonviolent protest?
What merits asymmetric crackdowns on Palestinian human rights protests?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7)

247 The same argument can be leveled at Antifa weenies and socialists in the West. They tear down capitalism and Judeo-Christian values while operating under their protections and with the benefit of their wealth generation. Go to a failed state and implement your socialist utopia (if it isn't already the reason behind the failed state.) See how far you get with a public that responds only to power and works within a godless framework. If you manage to survive at all, let's then compare the result to what America managed -- despite the ruinous factions hellbent on killing its Christian roots.

Posted by: red speck at April 19, 2024 11:59 AM (0Id0S)

248 1. Love one another as your self.
2. An eye for an eye.
3. Kill all infidels.

Two out of three ain't bad.

Posted by: Meat Loaf at April 19, 2024 11:59 AM (ufFY8)

249 Meanwhile, at CNN: "‘I’m actually going to vomit’: Ecstatic Swift fan reacts to new album"

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It's so weird how Tay Tay and Beyoncee don't sell their songs for $2 or $3 apiece, isn't it? With all those fans, imagine how much more money they'd make.

Unless those fans don't really exist and it's all just streaming algorithms promoting the popularity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 19, 2024 12:00 PM (WCiZg)

250 I’ve found that most of society’s ill can be traced to narcissism and belligerent atheists

Posted by: SMOD

And assholes (most assuredly not anyone in good Moron standing here in the Horde) that won't leave people alone when they should.

Queues up Clint Eastwood line "now get off my lawn"

Posted by: BifBewalski at April 19, 2024 12:00 PM (VWqx0)

251 when you think she's a quart low, she comes up with the bucket,

Posted by: no 6 at April 19, 2024 12:01 PM (PXvVL)

252 Also yeah, it's really weird for a grown man to be saying that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 19, 2024 12:01 PM (WCiZg)

253 What does Tay-Tay think about the Iranian situation?

Posted by: I gotta ask at April 19, 2024 12:01 PM (LqU2m)

254 Not really, the adherents to the religion of global warming won’t leave you alone to live in peace. Big difference.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly
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Vegans have entered the conversation.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 19, 2024 12:01 PM (17s+e)

255 The fun part of his story is that when he got his cheese he fucked off to Santa Barbara and bought a winery. Someone, not me, should make a parody of his life and grind his story into the ashtray.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2024 11:36 AM
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Did he really? Last I heard he and his wife were moving to the Bahamas where cultural England from the 60-70s seemed to still exist.

I'm sure he'll love Santa Barbara. When I lived in Cali, Santa Barbara was nothing but very well off white people in gated communities.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 19, 2024 12:02 PM (lw3je)

256 https://images.app.goo.gl/YYofARriYXZ2qM7z8

I wonder if MILF Gina Gannon will try to sell me stuff on the local news today.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 19, 2024 12:02 PM (ufFY8)

257 But can they extrapolate from that to realize the same thing will happen to them? Most animals don't seem to have a strong concept of "the future."

Still, we're finding they are often more intelligent than we've traditionally thought.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Elephants are extremely intelligent. One of my favorite animals.

There's a reason Kipling made Hathi the elephant the ruler of the jungle in his Mowgli stories.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 12:02 PM (9yWhg)

258 Also yeah, it's really weird for a grown man to be saying that.

In this case, "man" is rather loosely defined.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2024 12:02 PM (CsUN+)

259 He can have a church wedding with Mrs. Garrison.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2024 12:02 PM (0FoWg)

260 I’ve found that most of society’s ill can be traced to narcissism and belligerent atheists

Posted by: SMOD

But enough about Hollywood.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals at April 19, 2024 12:02 PM (FVME7)

261 >> What's weird is that there are many scientists who are devout believers in God because they can see the wonders of Creation and marvel at its elegance.

Yes. Have sat next to many in church over the years - aeronautical engineers, famous physicists, etc...

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2024 12:03 PM (cCVOS)

262 What does Tay-Tay think about the Iranian situation?
Posted by: I gotta ask at April 19, 2024 12:01 PM (LqU2m)

Gotta shake it off, shake it off.

Posted by: Tay Tay at April 19, 2024 12:03 PM (3QeU/)

263 Not really, the adherents to the religion of global warming won’t leave you alone to live in peace. Big difference.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly
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Vegans have entered the conversation.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 19, 2024

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Yeah, but they're 25 light-years away. They're commenting on our stuff from 1974.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)

264 What does Tay-Tay think about the Iranian situation?

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I assume that Biden is handling it great and anyway it's Trump's fault for putting the world in this situation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 19, 2024 12:04 PM (WCiZg)

265 Ha, Blinked wants to de-escalate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 19, 2024 12:04 PM (ufFY8)

266 265 Ha, Blinked wants to de-escalate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 19, 2024 12:04 PM (ufFY

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Impoverish Iran by preventing them from selling oil on the international market, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 19, 2024 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

267
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They wouldn't do this if we had a better candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 19, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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They've got something up their sleeve.
They're not going to just run Biden out there on a natural.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 19, 2024 12:04 PM (Dv2Ug)

268 I don’t know if my dogs understand death, even if they have experienced one of their dog friends in death. But I do know they know mourning of their loss.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (17s+e)

269 Ha, Blinked wants to de-escalate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

He blinked?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (9yWhg)

270 Blinken, dammit.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (ufFY8)

271 Dawkins helped light the fires that have pushed Christianity aside in the west. And now he is complaining that the house is on fire. Truly a remarkable conclusion on his part. It's not at all clear there is time to reverse the catastrophe and conflagration he helped ignite.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at April 19, 2024 11:39 AM (mQxC9)

I'll go a step further and posit that admitting that "cultural Christianity" is a societal good is as far as the people who give him voice will let him go.
IF he were to actually have his road to Damascus moment and want to tell the world about it, he'd be uninvited to all the shows which currently have him on and helped build his name and reputation.

Sure, he'd be a guest on many Christian shows and sites, but really, he'd just be preaching to the choir and not the athiests who need to hear it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (FCbAQ)

272 Ha, Blinked wants to de-escalate.

His side (Islam) is losing, so of course he does.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (2ocoG)

273 Running Biden on a natural is a lot different than Ona Zee.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (Dv2Ug)

274 143 National Review: It’s 1892 All Over Again

https://archive.is/W08Td

It's a pretty entertaining read.

From the article: Robert Ingersoll quipped of the two parties that “each side would have been glad to defeat the other, if it could do so without electing its own candidate.”

Sounds familiar.

Via Instapundit.
Posted by: Robert
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Like most of the NRO drivel, it is full of half truths to serve an agenda--aka anti tariffs and kow towing to financial interests. It is also flawed in its analysis of elections in a party era--contested conventions were a thing back then and did not demonstrate widespread public dislike of a candidate. By all accounts, Harrison was a cold person and apparently had a limp dead fish handshake. On the other hand, Cleveland had pretty good political skills but was at sea regarding government finances. There is also the distortion regarding government finances in the NRO piece--simply put--the Union pensions for troops were an issue as in the 1890's--those vets were aging and many were unable to work at the time making them dependent on the government to do the right thing. Many of them were also drafted into service.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (nWD6/)

275 Ha, Blinked wants to de-escalate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

He blinked?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 12:05 PM (9yWhg)

Blinken blunk.

Posted by: Robert at April 19, 2024 12:06 PM (3QeU/)

276 WHIG! Good to see you

(although I haven't been around much so it might just be me)

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 19, 2024 12:06 PM (WCiZg)

277 So, there's anecdotal reports that in the USA, at least, there's been a spike of conversions to Orthodox Christianity.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 19, 2024 11:46 AM

*makes beckoning motion*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2024 12:06 PM (Wnv9h)

278 Elephants are extremely intelligent. One of my favorite animals.

There's a reason Kipling made Hathi the elephant the ruler of the jungle in his Mowgli stories.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024

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And Tarzan and Tantor the elephant were always good friends. The one time in his life Tarzan ate elephant meat, he had not hunted for a long time, the stuff came out of a Gomangani cookpot, and he didn't know what it was. (The animal had also been sick before it died or was killed, and a semi-poisoned Tarzan wound up having nightmares!)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu)

279 Richard Dawkins is an example of what my first college history teacher (an agnostic) said about atheists who pushed for secularization of universities, hospitals, etc. "They're like fleas on a dog, cheering on their host's death."

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 19, 2024 12:07 PM (fxCK2)

280 nood

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at April 19, 2024 12:07 PM (MvF+J)

281 Blinken, dammit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 19, 2024

***
Winken, Blinken, and Nod one night
Sailed off on a river of crystal light!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2024 12:08 PM (J2vNu)

282 Too bad there's a nood. This has been a most interesting thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2024 12:09 PM (9yWhg)

283 249 Meanwhile, at CNN: "‘I’m actually going to vomit’: Ecstatic Swift fan reacts to new album"

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It's so weird how Tay Tay and Beyoncee don't sell their songs for $2 or $3 apiece, isn't it? With all those fans, imagine how much more money they'd make.

Unless those fans don't really exist and it's all just streaming algorithms promoting the popularity.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Bandwagon effect and it affects people that like to be in a herd. Ironically, it also has a sell by date as well as eventually everyone not a rabid fan gets disgusted with the hype machine and turns into a curmudgeon regarding the latest fad and the kids will always find a new faddish singer and then make fun of the folks adhering to previous faddish singer.

Takes about two to three generations before you figure out who sticks or not music wise.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2024 12:10 PM (nWD6/)

284 227
‘ watch the Ten Commandments ’

Whenever Edward G Robinson’s character came on the screen bitching about something, I always say “Look kids, history’s first democrat.”

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2024 12:10 PM (jbnUc)

285 237 >>Former agnostic here. It’s a sample size of one but I was def not an atheist. Today I am sort of a Christian. Baby steps.

Good for you. The most important moment of my life was the admission: "God is." Everything since then is refinement. And it's so refreshing to see in the last few years how three different men -- coming from entirely, wildly different backgrounds -- have moved toward God: Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, and Russell Brand. And they've all done it simply by asking questions and being genuinely open to the answers, wherever the logic led, and no matter what they previously thought.

Guys like Dawkins tend to be incapable of being honest with themselves, because they've got it all figured out -- everything in its cubby. Life isn't like that. And we're supposed to come to the realization sometimes that "I don't know" is a perfectly valid conclusion.

Posted by: red speck at April 19, 2024 12:11 PM (0Id0S)

286 The multiverse / infinite parallel universes concept is the atheist concession speech. There is zero evidence for it, and even if true it would just shift the goalposts, as it would require a greater being to have created them. The moral, teleological, and cosmological arguments, among others, point to the truth of a creator god, and the evidence for the Bible points to the real God.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at April 19, 2024 12:11 PM (MTm8X)

287 The b*tch still has NO chest.

Posted by: Sapwolf at April 19, 2024 12:33 PM (pQQ5j)

288 Or, more probably when Tehran disappears under a mushroom cloud.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at April 19, 2024 11:45 AM

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This. The Iranians suck at weapons delivery.

Posted by: Bigsmith at April 19, 2024 12:37 PM (w2IUI)

289 Ps 11:3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”

Posted by: lyford at April 19, 2024 12:45 PM (gb+vr)

290 Dawkins is the worst sort of social loafer, worse than pacifists. He benefits from that which he has helped to destroy then mourns its loss. He can go horse fuck.

Posted by: Butch at April 19, 2024 01:02 PM (0APJ3)

291 Thank you for the beautiful essay, Buck.
Per The Morning Report, please pray for the young soldiers stranded by the Biden junta in Niger. It's hard to believe the callousness of this admin against its citizens, but you only need to look anywhere in the Western World to see it repeated over and over.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 19, 2024 01:02 PM (s6PBU)

292 Believers...of any faiths "Know" there is god(s), and their actions/thoughts based upon those beliefs range from simple personal comfort, to violent evangelism.
Agnostic's, real ones...Just don't "Know", and are open to research, study, comparative applications, but it doesn't drive their lives.
Atheists, real ones..."Know" there is no god(s) and it is not a big deal, similar to the santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny, myths. It is not something that drives their lives.

ANTI Theists are those who are evangelical in their "Knowing" there is NO GODS!, any one who proffers or promotes God belief is evil incarnate, and insist upon preaching their own personal superiority of intellect and morality to one and all.
I was once an evangelical atheist, an anti theist.

Posted by: birdog at April 19, 2024 02:03 PM (+Fkyb)

293 Things changed...Today?
I do not believe in God, I do not believe I am six foot one, I do not believe my eyes are blue..these are absolute, incontrovertibly FACTS, beyond disputation. I belong to the worlds smallest congregation, no one but me in it...but the worlds largest cathedral...it IS the world.
I do my best every single hour of every day to be "good" in the world, to DO good in the world, to bring kindness and helpfulness to every person and thing that crosses my path, to be grateful for the lives I have been given, praying only for knowledge of gods will for me, the power to carry that out, the willingness to do so...and the opportunities to attempt to make up for some of the harms I have done in the past, that I may be able to live comfortably within my own skin.

Posted by: birdog at April 19, 2024 02:15 PM (+Fkyb)

294 Somebody should tell Richard, to quote the late Noel Coward, "You can't have your cake and sit in it, too."

Posted by: Beverly at April 19, 2024 02:19 PM (Epeb0)

295 Some fellow to talk about the six Miracles that atheists believe in. That order came out of chaos. That something came out of nothing. That life came out of non-life. Etc.

Posted by: Beverly at April 19, 2024 02:32 PM (Epeb0)

296 How come no ones burning those Black Churches anymore?! Can we say No Big News Coverage?!

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 19, 2024 05:36 PM (wGqjj)

297 Wake me when he realizes that it's a lot more than treating women and gays nice. The very central concepts of Christianity are what allow what we call "civilization." Without them, it's nothing more than regulated barbarity.

All of Progressivism is about tearing out Christianity - at the heart of Western Civilization - so that people can be their own gods. That doesn't bring about the utopia they think it might.

Posted by: GWB at April 19, 2024 08:56 PM (1zxQh)

298 I believe you meant Christopher Hitchens when you mentioned Dawkins mocking Mother Teresa. Hitchens wrote a whole book - "Missionary Position" about Mother Teresa. I don't recall Richard Dawkins ever mocking her.

Posted by: A Reasonable Man at April 20, 2024 11:17 AM (X0G1P)

299 Im an atheist. Its not a difficult choice, muslims want to murder atheists. I respect people and their beliefs.

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