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What happens when journalists from the left decide they can criticize the left?

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Dave Brown

It really seems to hurt the feelings of mainstream journalists when people they thought they knew stop following the herd

Are they just jealous? Or is there more?

April Harding:

Matt Taibbi was asked "why doesn't he pay much attention to the sins (or threats) from "the right"?"

He gave a great answer:

Why I don't spend a lot of time on the Republicans:

1) There is a enormous army of MSM reporters already going after them from every angle, with most major news organizations little more than proxies for the DNC, to the point where stations hire Biden spokespeople as anchors;

Humorous timing for this observation, don't you think?

2) The Republicans have very little institutional power nationally. It's not their point of view prevailing in schools, on campuses, in newsrooms (where over 90% of working reporters vote blue), and especially in the intelligence and military apparatus, which has openly aligned itself with Democrats. Even if Donald Trump were a "threat to Democracy" he lacks the institutional pull to do much damage, which can't be said of Democrats;

Clarity.

3) The Democrats' ambitions are significantly more dangerous than those of the Republicans. From digital surveillance to censorship to making Intel and enforcement agencies central players in domestic governance -- all plans being executed globally as well as in our one country -- they are thinking on a much bigger and more dangerous scale than Republicans. I lived in third world countries and the endless criminal indictments of people like Trump and ongoing lawfare efforts to prevent even third party challenges are classic authoritarian symptoms. The Republicans aren't near this kind of capability;

He covers a lot of issues here. How is it that so many people do not seem to see problems with any of them, given that army of reporters out there?

4) Last and most important, the Democrats are being organized around a more potent but also much dumber, more cultlike ideology. People like Yuval Harari and his Transhumanist "divinity" concept scare me a lot more than the Rs, and I was once undercover in an apocalyptic church in Texas. Ask your average Russian or Cuban what overempowered pseudo-intellectuals are capable of.

I have a pretty good record of picking dangerous phenomena ahead of time. I feel confident on this one, and that's before we get to the demographic/class shifts in the parties.

I can't find anything in the text above that seems mushy-headed.

Thoughts? There are some interesting comments in the thread at the link above.

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Contrast: A Blast from the Past

Here's where I find mushy-headed thinking:

Heh.

More on Taylor Lorenz:

This is a perfect reading of her nonsense.

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Something happened to Bill Maher, too

Taibbi and Weiss aren't the only ones:

Can you think of other people in media who have started criticizing the left unexpectedly?

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He's not in media, but here, the President of Guyana pushes back against the media narrative:

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Easter Weekend

Quotes

Respect was invented to cover the empty place where love should be.

Leo Tolstoy

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Music

Hallelujah Chorus in case you need a little wake-up tomorrow.

Here's the entire Handel's Messiah with lyrics (Tabernacle Choir and Orchestra) in case you want to sing along at home.


The Story Behind Handel's Messiah:

Handel deliberately kept the dramatic content of his Messiah understated - it was in church after all. He created a piece based on three concepts: the story of the nativity and its prophecy; that of the crucifixion and redemption of mankind; and a commentary on the Christian soul and its victory over death. In each of these three parts, the chorus is absolutely at the heart of the work, complemented by four vocal soloists and an orchestra.

Those forces deliver some of Handel's most heart-stopping music - gobsmackingly dramatic and effective, profoundly touching and spiritual. He used all his old tricks and learned some new (pretty good) ones too.

Handel composed Messiah in just 24 days without getting much sleep and or eating much food. While writing the 'Hallelujah' chorus Handel's servant discovered him with tears in his eyes, and he exclaimed, "I did think I did see all Heaven before me, and the great God Himself seated on His throne, with His company of Angels."

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Russian Easter Festival Overture

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, March 23, So you thought you understood Ireland?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 11:11 AM




Comments

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1 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:12 AM (fwDg9)

2 Wait, what happened?

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:17 AM (fwDg9)

3 It was blank again, honest

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:18 AM (fwDg9)

4 Not first.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 30, 2024 11:18 AM (7dS7s)

5 Handel composed Messiah in just 24 days without getting much sleep and or eating much food. While writing the 'Hallelujah' chorus Handel's servant discovered him with tears in his eyes, and he exclaimed, "I did think I did see all Heaven before me, and the great God Himself seated on His throne, with His company of Angels."

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Another great story is Beethoven and his Ninth Symphony. By the time he wrote it, he was completely deaf. He wrote an entire symphony based on what he knew it should sound like in his head.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 30, 2024 11:18 AM (lTGtQ)

6 You can lead a person to a thread but you can't make them post

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:19 AM (fwDg9)

7 Just for the weekend! Thanks for the laugh KT...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 11:20 AM (6rao7)

8 Actually saw, didn't read it, that Beethoven wasn't as deaf as reported.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:21 AM (fwDg9)

9 Hi, Skip! Happy Easter Weekend, everybody!

Posted by: KT at March 30, 2024 11:21 AM (rrtZS)

10 Whoa

Posted by: Jamaica at March 30, 2024 11:21 AM (IG7T0)

11 If Taylor Lor3nz met an actual poor person she would swat the guy.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 30, 2024 11:21 AM (zARpI)

12 Yeah, I walked right into the punchline

Posted by: Jamaica at March 30, 2024 11:23 AM (IG7T0)

13 Lots of Guyanese in Queens. They like trucks, Modelo and cricket

Posted by: Jamaica at March 30, 2024 11:25 AM (IG7T0)

14 My son-in-law, who majored in opera singing, is going to be paid $400 to sing selections from Handel's Messiah at a church in a few weeks. So that's working out better than I thought.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:25 AM (FVME7)

15 Bill Maher as usual makes great points but has to end it with Trump is a bad Orangeman who is bad and Orange. He comes so close to getting it but never crossed the line fully.

Oh well. He’s still 100% spot on with Covid and has been saying this for a long time.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:25 AM (hxe/1)

16 Wow. Bill Maher actually used the term "Main Stream Media" correctly. I'm shocked.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

17 14 My son-in-law, who majored in opera singing, is going to be paid $400 to sing selections from Handel's Messiah at a church in a few weeks. So that's working out better than I thought.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:25 AM (FVME7)

I have a friend who minored in music in college. She has a nice side gig during the summer playing the violin in weddings. $200-300 for an hour’s work. Sometimes she does 2 weddings on the same day.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:27 AM (hxe/1)

18 New York Post
@nypost
Religious-themed designs banned from White House Easter egg art contest

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You know, Biden is a severe Catholic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:27 AM (FVME7)

19 That interview with Guayana’s president should be required viewing for every Republican. That’s how you treat scumbags in the media.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:28 AM (hxe/1)

20 "for two years we had to get nostil-f*cked everytime we left the house". Wow, He's funnier than I remember.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

21 18 New York Post
@nypost
Religious-themed designs banned from White House Easter egg art contest

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You know, Biden is a severe Catholic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:27 AM (FVME7)

severe...whatever does that mean?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:29 AM (ynpvh)

22 Leftists do turn on each other eventually, that only thing can think of why. Sometimes it's a out Lefting another, or trying to change the direction.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:29 AM (fwDg9)

23 Can you think of other people in media who have started criticizing the left unexpectedly?



This isn’t unexpectedly from Maher. He has been saying this for a long time. He has said this very thing 100 times on his podcast as well.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:30 AM (hxe/1)

24 Maher is like Camille Paglia: she can write 1,000 words utterly destroying Hillary and the Clintons and then she bravely voted for Jill Stein.

It's all for show.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 11:31 AM (llXky)

25 New York Post
@nypost
American YouTube star kidnapped in Haiti while attempting to meet gang leader ‘Barbecue’

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I wonder if they're demanding the ransom be paid in after dinner mints.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:32 AM (FVME7)

26 It is pretty ironic how the Dems unfettered immigration is starting to backfire. All these potential voters are not actually voters yet but in the meantime they are losing their long time consituencies. Chicago prime example. Read a story today of people chanting at Council meeting about voting Red. Calling on Trump to come save the city.
All that potential reparation money now being spent on illegals.
Karma.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:32 AM (t/2Uw)

27 24 Maher is like Camille Paglia: she can write 1,000 words utterly destroying Hillary and the Clintons and then she bravely voted for Jill Stein.

It's all for show.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 11:31 AM (llXky)

So what? A video like this goes viral millions of people see it and get a new perspective. Why shit on it?

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:33 AM (hxe/1)

28 New York Post
@nypost
American YouTube star kidnapped in Haiti while attempting to meet gang leader ‘Barbecue’

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I wonder if they're demanding the ransom be paid in after dinner mints.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

It is almost like Haiti isn't a safe place isn't it?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 11:34 AM (6rao7)

29 24 Maher is like Camille Paglia: she can write 1,000 words utterly destroying Hillary and the Clintons and then she bravely voted for Jill Stein.

It's all for show.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 11:31 AM (llXky)

As someone mentioned, Maher still has to do his digs on Trump. He's a safe vote for Biden, no matter how many little girls Biden sniffs and fondles, no matter how he showered with his daughter to the point she says in her diary it led to her sexual behaviors, no matter what word salad comes out of his mouth or how much proof he has dimentia; Orange Man BAD!!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

30 Been reading up on "sports gambling"....everything is now ....wrestling.

Posted by: BignJames at March 30, 2024 11:34 AM (AwYPR)

31 Dementia.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

32 27 24 Maher is like Camille Paglia: she can write 1,000 words utterly destroying Hillary and the Clintons and then she bravely voted for Jill Stein.

It's all for show.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 11:31 AM (llXky)

So what? A video like this goes viral millions of people see it and get a new perspective. Why shit on it?

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:33 AM (hxe/1)

'cause he's still a piece of shit?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

33 The President of Guyana is a rock star. I'd like to see him as President of the United Nations.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2024 11:36 AM (TQc0R)

34 28 New York Post
@nypost
American YouTube star kidnapped in Haiti while attempting to meet gang leader ‘Barbecue’

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I wonder if they're demanding the ransom be paid in after dinner mints.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

It is almost like Haiti isn't a safe place isn't it?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 11:34 AM (6rao7)

Reminds me of that joke of the African version of Russian roulette...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

35 Maher still supporting Biden.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:36 AM (t/2Uw)

36

'cause he's still a piece of shit?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

And like always on the right it has to be all or nothing. Either Maher agrees with me 100-% or he’s a piece of shit.

You’ll never win long term battles with this attitude man. You need allies where you can get them.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:37 AM (hxe/1)

37 Lizzo says she’s quitting the music industry

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I guess she's going to be spending more time with her Krispy Kremes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:37 AM (FVME7)

38 If Beethoven had opted for a pair of those hearing aids Joe Namath has been shilling, maybe he would have made better use of his time.

Posted by: Beethoven's Last Movement at March 30, 2024 11:37 AM (V5BDR)

39 Here's the name of the insufferable prig:

Stephen Sackur speaks to Guyana’s President Mohamed Irfaan Ali. Vast offshore oil and gas reserves are transforming the Guyanese economy. But amid territorial tension with neighbouring Venezuela and environmental concerns, will oil prove to be a blessing or a curse?

Posted by: m at March 30, 2024 11:38 AM (o3SCB)

40 Will it be a blessing or a curse to find natural resources worth trillions of dollars in your country.

Hmmm that’s a tough one BBC. 🤣

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:39 AM (hxe/1)

41 The President of Guyana is a rock star. I'd like to see him as President of the United Nations.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2024 11:36 AM


That was epic.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 30, 2024 11:39 AM (Wnv9h)

42 Hmmm that’s a tough one BBC. 🤣
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:39 AM


Beeb's gonna beeb.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 30, 2024 11:40 AM (Wnv9h)

43 Yes Maher hates Trump. And yes he will vote for Biden. But on Covid and the fight against woke he is saying good stuff and has been for a long time.

Don’t make it all or nothing with him,

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:41 AM (hxe/1)

44 36

'cause he's still a piece of shit?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

And like always on the right it has to be all or nothing. Either Maher agrees with me 100-% or he’s a piece of shit.

You’ll never win long term battles with this attitude man. You need allies where you can get them.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:37 AM (hxe/1)

No need to shit on me man. Just making a joke of your shitty observation. Just like this comment: a joke.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:41 AM (ynpvh)

45 All of Sen. John Fetterman's Top Communications Staffers Have Resigned in the Past Month

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They didn't sign on to represent someone making sense!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:41 AM (FVME7)

46 That Maher riffing on the covid crap was great. Too bad Maher is a giant donkey’s ass and he went off the rails in the last 10 seconds (TDS… sigh). But even he sees that pretty much all the “conventional wisdom” on covid was total BS

My favorite observation: playing baseball in front of cardboard cutouts of people. I’d forgotten about that particular piece of lunacy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 11:41 AM (xT8gx)

47 What happens when journalists from the left decide they can criticize the left?

I will let you know.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 11:42 AM (CsUN+)

48 Hasn't Venezuela tried to grab part of Guyana? Tension with neighboring Venezuela? Think it's a bit more serious than that.
Noticed French President Macron visiting LuLa in Brazil. How naive do you have to be to think that communist dictators care anything for "Climate Change" or other WEF elitist ideas. Do they really think that they would give up the money their oil brings to Save the Planet?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:44 AM (t/2Uw)

49 All the shithead democrats need to move to Guyana and start a little town and work in the rainforest with the heat, bugs, snakes, diseases, rape, fungus, mold, moisture everywhere even in the cracks of they asses and rape and name it Joe's Town or Jamestown or Jonestown, well maybe not Jonestown as that one is taken already and enjoy the 4th world climate and all of it's joys.

Pack a lot of Flavor Aid and they are all set...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2024 11:44 AM (R/m4+)

50 All of Sen. John Fetterman's Top Communications Staffers Have Resigned in the Past Month

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They didn't sign on to represent someone making sense.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:41 AM (FVME7)

Sure hasn't gotten much media attention.

Posted by: BignJames at March 30, 2024 11:45 AM (AwYPR)

51 47 What happens when journalists from the left decide they can criticize the left?

I will let you know.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 11:42 AM (CsUN+)

that's exactly what happened to Matt Taibbi. That's why even though he's the last true journalist working in America today, and he usually has great insights, there isn't a single media outlet that will publish his work and you have to go searching for him on substack.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 11:45 AM (q3gwH)

52 Some of the stuff coming out of Fetterman is old style Democrat, maybe his staffers being hard core Marxists are leaving because he is a loose cannon.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:45 AM (fwDg9)

53 gotta run.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:46 AM (ynpvh)

54 I can't link from my phone and not sure if you can still find it but Jim Brewers Someone Had to Say it is a really good takedown of Covid BS.

Posted by: Reforger at March 30, 2024 11:47 AM (B705c)

55 shit

Posted by: vic at March 30, 2024 11:47 AM (A5THL)

56 You’ll never win long term battles with this attitude man. You need allies where you can get them.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:37 AM (hxe/1)
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He's not my ally and never will be. The reason we lose is because conservatives are such cheap dates - we swoon for McCain, the Bushes, and any hard-left reporter who hints at a truth.

Maher has not and will not stand for actual truth. He'll do a monologue like this and then vote (and campaign for!) the same people he's attacking today.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 11:48 AM (llXky)

57 I don't know which thought creeps me out more - knowing that Anne Coulter willingly slept with Bill Maher, or knowing that Bill Maher willingly slept with Anne Coulter.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 11:48 AM (q3gwH)

58 In every Marxist revolution, and that is what we are living through, as soon as the true believers take complete power the first people put up against the wall are the quislings who carried their water. They have no value and once power is consolidated they can only be a liability.

History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 11:48 AM (LkLld)

59 If you remember, a bunch of Congressional staffers staged a walkout in support of Hamas.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:49 AM (t/2Uw)

60 Two points:

I have no doubt that most of the clapping seals in Maher's audience were the ones pushing all the asinine steps he now ridicules, but of course now they clap for the ridicule, but do not admit their gullibility.

Trump ignored Covid like it's the dinner check. Oh, f*** off. I have my problems with Trump, but this is an outright lie.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)

61 It's safe to rag on Covid now because no one cares anymore. Immigration, Inflation, Transmania are the only relevant topics right now and the left is still touting how wonderful all this is ,you are just too stupid to realize how great you have it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:52 AM (t/2Uw)

62 severe...whatever does that mean?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 11:29 AM (ynpvh)


Once it meant "as Catholic as Torquemada"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 11:53 AM (D7oie)

63 I don't know which thought creeps me out more - knowing that Anne Coulter willingly slept with Bill Maher, or knowing that Bill Maher willingly slept with Anne Coulter.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 11:48 AM (q3gwH)
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Oh man, I just had lunch.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 11:53 AM (llXky)

64 Yeah, that's NYC's biggest problem, lack of self-driving cars.

NYC Mayor Eric Adams Greenlights Self-Driving Cars With Supervision

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:53 AM (FVME7)

65 Trump ignored Covid like it's the dinner check. Oh, f*** off. I have my problems with Trump, but this is an outright lie.
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Assigned to his VP, Pence, who predictably performed as well as current VP, Harris.

Amazing how Pence has escaped his rightful calumny.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 30, 2024 11:54 AM (MIKMs)

66 People generally have no idea how dangerous Democrats are. They believe it's hyperbole and politics. It isn't. If you've been on any flights lately you know the threats are real. The invasion of illegals immigrants is well organized and planned. The logistics could only be accomplished with government resources. These people are given money, shelter, healthcare, schooling and legal assistance. Many are carrying instructions on where to go and how to continue staying in the country- some even on how to vote. Many carry laminated instructions in several languages. They are given priority on many flights with some even in the premium sections eating the best in flight meals. It's insidious and horrifying at the same time. It's paid for completely with your money. It's ignored by the media because it's meant to replace you. To steal your services and rights as citizens. To make you less healthy, even dispose of you faster. To make your kids less educated. To steal your property. Until I saw this for myself, I believed it was overblown. It isn't, and I dare say Democrats will never give up power in November. They are completely undermining that entire process. It ends in an ugly way.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2024 11:54 AM (NjrsW)

67 t's safe to rag on Covid now because no one cares anymore. Immigration, Inflation, Transmania are the only relevant topics right now and the left is still touting how wonderful all this is ,you are just too stupid to realize how great you have it.

It's always the same playbook with leftists. Push some idiotic policy based on your imbecilic ideology, then when it predictably goes pear-shaped, deny all involvement and say it was the Republicans.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 11:54 AM (CsUN+)

68 57 there are a few couples like that.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 11:55 AM (fwDg9)

69 Trump ignored Covid like it's the dinner check. Oh, f*** off. I have my problems with Trump, but this is an outright lie.

It was such a strange comment after all that complaining about how we overreacted. To end it on complaining that Trump didn’t overreact enough is… well, it’s what I expect from the Left. It reminds me of a book I read about how horrible our health care system is by a guy named David Goldhill (wow, almost a decade ago now) that was spot on all the way to the end… where he then recommended doubling down on everything he’d complained about in the first 90% of the book.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2024 11:57 AM (EXyHK)

70 New Boeing CEO Candidate Pushed DEI

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At least their airliner crashes will be diverse, inclusive, and equitable.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:57 AM (FVME7)

71 Seriously people. Covid is over. No one is going to be held accountable. Hindsight is 20/20. We can't go back a nd change what happened. No retribution wil compensate for how it was handled and the after effects.
If the current crises of illegal immigration,inflation, and the corrupt DOJ's lawfare against innocnet civilians aren't dealt with, nothing else will matter.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:57 AM (t/2Uw)

72 The BBC interviewer comes across as a woke, upper-class twit from central casting.

Posted by: Paco at March 30, 2024 11:58 AM (njExo)

73 Leftists do turn on each other eventually, that only thing can think of why. Sometimes it's a out Lefting another, or trying to change the direction.
Posted by: Skip

When do they get their guillotine out?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Unsynchronized at March 30, 2024 11:58 AM (dVoh+)

74 28 New York Post
@nypost
American YouTube star kidnapped in Haiti while attempting to meet gang leader ‘Barbecue’
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Week before last woman volunteer raped, was it?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 11:59 AM (BhlQm)

75 New Boeing CEO Candidate Pushed DEI
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At least their airliner crashes will be diverse, inclusive, and equitable.


A report from CNN says that the middle seats in the last row of a plane are typically the safest. TIME Magazine, who is also quoted by CNN, said that by looking at row position, they found that the middle seats in the rear of the aircraft had the best outcomes, with a 28% fatality rate.

Where will they sit the black passengers? In the rear? Bad optics.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 11:59 AM (CsUN+)

76 Speaking of Trump, didja see this?

Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7)

77 Maher is a POS. He's a blindly loyal "dissenter" so he get to smoke weed but still hang out with the cool kids. His job is to make people feel like they a protesting while they blindly vote democrat.

Posted by: Tom at March 30, 2024 12:00 PM (ZvGil)

78 >>Even if Donald Trump were a "threat to Democracy" he lacks the institutional pull to do much damage, which can't be said of Democrats;

Disagree. Like most in the media Taibbi still has a blind spot about who wields power in a (barely) free country. Like all leftists Taibbi might criticize big government institutions but he will never stop worshipping them.

This deep state cabal didn't happen overnight. It has been growing for decades and seeping into every institution. It was 30 years ago that the CIA/NSA helped create Google and other social media to spy on us, create narratives and control us. But it wasn't until Trump came along and started talking about it that tens of millions of people started waking up to what has been going on. I think much of the insanity we are seeing from the left right now is an attempt to speed up the timeline because the movement that Trump is currently leading and others around the world like Milei have joined is an existential threat to them.

Institutional power only exists when we allow them to have power and every day more are seeing that the institutions have become the threat. Trump is absolutely a threat to what they call democracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:00 PM (LkLld)

79 You’ll never win long term battles with this attitude man. You need allies where you can get them.
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:37 AM (hxe/1)


This is the story of the Libertarian party, too. this is in fact the very thinking that had them promote Gary Johnson for multiple cycles.

They failed to get any real traction of course, because in the end it turns out that building a coalition with sociopaths means they take what you built from you and use your reputation to make themselves more powerful than ever and leave you out in the cold, on the very same trash heap where you tossed out your foundational principals when you decided to ditch them for power yourslef.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 12:01 PM (D7oie)

80 76 Speaking of Trump, didja see this?

Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7)

So about 5 or 10 burgers?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 12:02 PM (ynpvh)

81 I keep coming back to this; the left's ideology is their religion. They are very, very rabid about it, much like jihadi's are about Islam.

Both want you to adhere to their ideology or die.

There is no room in either for any sort of middle ground. Neither will submit to anything but complete and total dominance.

People who think this is a political problem, resolved via voting and elections have their heads up their proverbial ass.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:02 PM (Q4IgG)

82 Maher slept with Ann Coulter? She's so scrawny that's got to be like, what, two-dimensional sex?

Posted by: Paco at March 30, 2024 12:02 PM (njExo)

83 82 Maher slept with Ann Coulter? She's so scrawny that's got to be like, what, two-dimensional sex?

Posted by: Paco at March 30, 2024 12:02 PM (njExo)

That went over flat...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 30, 2024 12:03 PM (ynpvh)

84 The Democrats' ambitions are significantly more dangerous than those of the Republicans

This is the absolute most important thing that people without strong ideological views should consider.

If Trump and the Rs were to sweep the coming elections at best/worst you might get a return to the America of say...1992.

If the Junta has similiar power it will take us to some combination of the various classic dystophias like The Giver, 1984, and Brave New World and the left is *open* about this.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2024 12:04 PM (ibTVg)

85 Maher is a POS. He's a blindly loyal "dissenter" so he get to smoke weed but still hang out with the cool kids. His job is to make people feel like they a protesting while they blindly vote democrat.

He may indeed be a POS, but he now frequently goes off the reservation. I suspect he knows that what he and the rest of the left have been pushing is electoral poison, and he wants to save himself by sometimes playing the moderate. He also wants to save the left from its own worst impulses.

OTOH, he may be suffering from cognitive dissonance. He's a smart guy, and he knows what the left is doing doesn't work, but he can't quite bring himself to draw the obvious conclusion.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:04 PM (CsUN+)

86 Institutional power only exists when we allow them to have power and every day more are seeing that the institutions have become the threat. Trump is absolutely a threat to what they call democracy.
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It's the Chicago Way.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 30, 2024 12:05 PM (MIKMs)

87 Martini Farmer I do agree Marxism is a Religion, like Islam its submit or pay the price.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 12:05 PM (fwDg9)

88 � COVID came from a lab
� Ivermectin worked
� Masks� pic.twitter.com/4w1oxeHQCO


We went from "we are so sure we are right we have the right to force you to do these things because COVID will kill us all" to "oh well it was just a best guess can't blame us for being wrong about this old news about something unimportant like COVID right?"

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2024 12:06 PM (ibTVg)

89 Amazing how Pence has escaped his rightful calumny.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 30, 2024 11:54 AM (MIKMs)


Calumny is ok, but I prefer a good Jambalaya or a gumbo.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 12:07 PM (D7oie)

90 People who think this is a political problem, resolved via voting and elections have their heads up their proverbial ass.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:02 PM (Q4IgG)
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Yes, I've long accepted that there's a 50/50 shot at there being elections at all. Too many people holding levers of power will end up in prison, and they will provoke a war rather than meekly submitting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:07 PM (llXky)

91 >>People who think this is a political problem, resolved via voting and elections have their heads up their proverbial ass.

Don't tell the Argentinians. Seems to be working there.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:07 PM (LkLld)

92 I do agree Marxism is a Religion, like Islam its submit or pay the price.

They aren't quite the same. You can still get bacon under Marxism, it's just not available often.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:07 PM (CsUN+)

93 63 I don't know which thought creeps me out more - knowing that Anne Coulter willingly slept with Bill Maher, or knowing that Bill Maher willingly slept with Anne Coulter.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 11:48 AM (q3gwH)
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How do you "know" either of these things? Have either said so? Did anyone catch them "doing it"?

Posted by: noam sayen at March 30, 2024 12:07 PM (NsZNC)

94
61 It's safe to rag on Covid now because no one cares anymore. Immigration, Inflation, Transmania are the only relevant topics right now and the left is still touting how wonderful all this is ,you are just too stupid to realize how great you have it.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 11:52 AM (t/2Uw)

Bil Maher has been talking about Covid for 2-3 years. And he’s been talking about the insanity of then trans movement wokism in general as well.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:08 PM (hxe/1)

95 It's safe to rag on Covid now because no one cares anymore. Immigration, Inflation, Transmania are the only relevant topics right now and the left is still touting how wonderful all this is ,you are just too stupid to realize how great you have it.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

This is why Maher doesn't get much credit in my book. Hindsight, armchair quarterback in my opinion. Get out in front of something Billy, and I'll give you some credit. As far as " winning arguments " with the opposition goes, I am well past that. In the immortal words of our esteemed Mr. Andrews, buy more ammo.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Unsynchronized at March 30, 2024 12:08 PM (dVoh+)

96 Yet another destructive Biden proposal (from the ONT):
204 Biden to cap rent rises at 10% in new affordable housing ploy: White House to unveil plan that could stop landlords upcharging on millions of homes

https://mol.im/a/13253279
Posted by: Ciampino - The rent is roo damn high at March 29, 2024 11:36 PM (qfLjt)

Another "feel good" policy. Experience and research shows that rent control policies inevitably lead to reduced housing supply, lower property values and decreased quality of available properties.

Great, FJB. let's reduce the housing supply. Who does that benefit,?
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Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 30, 2024 12:09 PM (7Dq6u)

97 Yet another destructive Biden proposal (from the ONT):
204 Biden to cap rent rises at 10% in new affordable housing ploy: White House to unveil plan that could stop landlords upcharging on millions of homes


In the parlance of the political consultant class, this is what is known as "flailing".

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:10 PM (CsUN+)

98
This is why Maher doesn't get much credit in my book. Hindsight, armchair quarterback in my opinion. Get out in front of something Billy, and I'll give you some credit. As far as " winning arguments " with the opposition goes, I am well past that. In the immortal words of our esteemed Mr. Andrews, buy more ammo.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Unsynchronized at March 30, 2024 12:08 PM (dVoh+)

Go find some of his podcasts from a year or two ago. He was saying the same thing then. This isn’t new from him.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:11 PM (hxe/1)

99 Fetterman’s top staffers resign because of his position on Israel.

Hope he told them not to let the door hit them in their brains when they leave.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:11 PM (MNhXM)

100 -- >>People who think this is a political problem, resolved via voting and elections have their heads up their proverbial ass.

Don't tell the Argentinians. Seems to be working there.
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I don't think the situation there, as compared to here, is remotely the same. Superficially perhaps, but that's about as far as I'm willing to go.

Our government is much more resilient to change.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

101 Democrats have a massive operation to undermine the next election. They have lawyers, lawsuits and people on the ground in every important state. They have sued and won in numerous cases. In Democrat led states like Michigan they have completely undermined the process using mail in voting and no signature matching. There is zero integrity and it's designed to do one thing, stuff ballot boxes and get those votes over the finish line. That's because they know judges are cowards or in on the scheme. Remember this is about electoral votes and they don't need to run the table. They have an insidious plan to cause chaos, and part of it is falsely claiming Republicans are the "election deniers". They have their mouthpieces in the media peddling that lie. I don't care what the polls say, because in the end that will mean zero.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2024 12:12 PM (NjrsW)

102 Our government is much more resilient to change.

Resistant to change or resilient?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:13 PM (CsUN+)

103 Several videos last couple of days showing FBI agents showing up at people's doors in casual clothes to question occupants about their social media posts. Almost like they are trying to be incognito. Innocuous. Let us just ask a few questions...
WTH is happening to our country?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 12:13 PM (t/2Uw)

104 EC voted in Clinton over Bush as Perot took around 20% of the popular vote.

Posted by: rhennigantx austere religious scholar at March 30, 2024 12:13 PM (ENQN6)

105 Several videos last couple of days showing FBI agents showing up at people's doors in casual clothes to question occupants about their social media posts. Almost like they are trying to be incognito. Innocuous. Let us just ask a few questions...

Gotta warrant? No? Get the f*** off my property.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:14 PM (CsUN+)

106 Taylor Lorenz

Up until about 15 years ago, she and all the other interwebz influencers and the like would have been employed for life as cosmetics counter salespeople in major department stores and similar wage and talent jobs. The once-vaunted "information Superhighway' has mostly become a pothole nightmare two-lane highway lined with shops selling cheap trinkets, fortune tellers and hex-casters, and innumerable places like you see every 50 miles along Interstates that invite you to see "The Mummified THING - Half-Boy, Half-Alligator!"

Posted by: Gref at March 30, 2024 12:15 PM (5fDan)

107 Go find some of his podcasts from a year or two ago. He was saying the same thing then. This isn’t new from him.
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:11 PM (hxe/1)

And he also recently said he would do everything in his power to prevent Trump from becoming President again. That’s some lack of self awareness that only a narcissistic idiot could have in light of his COVID statement.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:15 PM (MNhXM)

108 Up until about 15 years ago, she and all the other interwebz influencers and the like would have been employed for life as cosmetics counter salespeople in major department stores and similar wage and talent jobs. The once-vaunted "information Superhighway' has mostly become a pothole nightmare two-lane highway lined with shops selling cheap trinkets, fortune tellers and hex-casters, and innumerable places like you see every 50 miles along Interstates that invite you to see "The Mummified THING - Half-Boy, Half-Alligator!"

Remind me never to get on your bad side.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:15 PM (CsUN+)

109 OTOH, he may be suffering from cognitive dissonance. He's a smart guy, and he knows what the left is doing doesn't work, but he can't quite bring himself to draw the obvious conclusion.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:04 PM (CsUN+)


I was listening to an old guy talking about "regenerative agriculture" and land management, and it turned out he had a couple of real talking points: Institutional science is wrong headed, the organizations that use the science are wrong and can never admit they are wrong, powerful organizations are incompetent and can only do evil, this is unfortunate in that the only way we can effect change is to create powerful organizations, and that powerful multinational organizations can reverse climate change but only if they are freed from the rules and oversight of national oversight and control.

"government is bad and the only solution is to create greater, more powerful governments to control them"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 12:16 PM (D7oie)

110 That interview with Guayana’s president should be required viewing for every Republican. That’s how you treat scumbags in the media.
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:28 AM (hxe/1)

I'd have liked it better if he had pulled a pistol and shot the BBC asshole in the face. Thing is, he basically gave tacit acceptance to the whole AGW fraud, and then tried to explain why it didn't apply to Guyana because Guyana owns a metric fuckton of jungle. He also repeated a a whole mess of specious nonsense about "lost biodiversity". Basically, he was just baffling a BS artist with the same brand of BS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:16 PM (tkR6S)

111 Why shit on Maher just because he got adjacent to the Right for five minutes?

Because he gets the fvcking causation wrong, that's why.

A guy that agrees with you but still blames you isn't your fvcking ally.

Posted by: McLurkerson at March 30, 2024 12:17 PM (wNDOJ)

112 > Resistant to change or resilient?
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Probably both... but resilient in that even with efforts and conditions to effect change, FedGov remains.

Resistant implies force, and that's probably true as well.

We see both, IMO.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:17 PM (Q4IgG)

113
Don't tell the Argentinians. Seems to be working there.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:07 PM (LkLld)


El Salvador too, President Milei has some very competent people working with him, and so far they seem to be on his side. President Bukele is rumored to have a "kitchen cabinet" of Venezuelans who fled Maduro's regime who are advising him too.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 12:19 PM (D7oie)

114 I'd have liked it better if he had pulled a pistol and shot the BBC asshole in the face. Thing is, he basically gave tacit acceptance to the whole AGW fraud, and then tried to explain why it didn't apply to Guyana because Guyana owns a metric fuckton of jungle. He also repeated a a whole mess of specious nonsense about "lost biodiversity". Basically, he was just baffling a BS artist with the same brand of BS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:16 PM (tkR6S)
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I disagree. What he did was attack the AGW assholes on their own ground, using their own claims to destroy them. He's right: Europe lives it up and then tells the Third World to stay poor "for the planet."

It's good to point out when people are wrong even on their own terms.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:20 PM (llXky)

115 105 Several videos last couple of days showing FBI agents showing up at people's doors in casual clothes to question occupants about their social media posts. Almost like they are trying to be incognito. Innocuous. Let us just ask a few questions...

Gotta warrant? No? Get the f*** off my property.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:14 PM (CsUN+)

Part of me thinks "these must be staged, the FBI can't possibly be that stupid."
The other part of me thinks "well of course they are that stupid!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (q3gwH)

116 Retribution is not for compensation retribution is punishment to help insure that it doesn't happen again.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (BhlQm)

117 I’m not saying you are wrong about the state of the union right now but all the doomsayers need to look back on our history. We’ve been in similar situations many times. Hell , Wall Street was bombed by anarchists first back in the early 1900’s.

Again it does not diminish the problems we have now but rather just a thought not to give up and keep fighting.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (MNhXM)

118 Basically, he was just baffling a BS artist with the same brand of BS.

True, but the BBC "journalists" have been getting more obnoxious with each passing day. They don't ask questions, they deliver lectures, and then demand that you kiss their capacious asses. This guy wasn't having it. Good for him.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)

119 Don’t make it all or nothing with him,
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:41 AM (hxe/1)

He's not an ally. Just a rift in the ranks of the enemy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:22 PM (tkR6S)

120 >>I don't think the situation there, as compared to here, is remotely the same. Superficially perhaps, but that's about as far as I'm willing to go.


Well, yea. They went through a full on military coup and decades of open and aggressive socialist destruction. The state was all powerful and it created nothing but poverty and misery.

We are on the edge of following that path but we aren't fully there yet. The two situations have a lot of differences but the point is that change can come through peaceful means when enough people get tired of the lies and destruction of their way of life.

The fact that Biden is doing so poorly in his reelection bid despite having 99% of the levers of power both within and outside the government tells me people are getting near that point.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:22 PM (LkLld)

121 Because he gets the fvcking causation wrong, that's why.

A guy that agrees with you but still blames you isn't your fvcking ally.

Posted by: McLurkerson at March 30, 2024 12:17 PM (wNDOJ)
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I remember when he had "politically incorrect," and of course it wasn't, he always ended up going along with the left. It's his gig, and its boring as hell.

We're marching towards armed confrontations and I'm supposed to cheer when a washed-up comedian on a little-watched cable channel says something mildly conservative? Sorry, crippling shorts of f*cks to give.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:23 PM (llXky)

122 I’m not saying you are wrong about the state of the union right now but all the doomsayers need to look back on our history. We’ve been in similar situations many times. Hell , Wall Street was bombed by anarchists first back in the early 1900’s.

Again it does not diminish the problems we have now but rather just a thought not to give up and keep fighting.


I couldn't agree more. It is always tempting to assume we have it worse than at any time in history. We don't.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:23 PM (CsUN+)

123 True, but the BBC "journalists" have been getting more obnoxious with each passing day. They don't ask questions, they deliver lectures, and then demand that you kiss their capacious asses. This guy wasn't having it. Good for him.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)
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The bint who interviewed Jordan Peterson comes to mind.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:24 PM (llXky)

124 Maher slept with Ann Coulter? She's so scrawny that's got to be like, what, two-dimensional sex?
Posted by: Paco

Like banging a sack of antlers.
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Yeah, PDJT said covid would just go away, Bill.

Where's covid now, Bill? He was also correct, Bill.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 30, 2024 12:24 PM (/QIWP)

125 Go find some of his podcasts from a year or two ago. He was saying the same thing then. This isn’t new from him.
Posted by: Montec

I'm aware of those. Doesn't move my opinion a single mm.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Unsynchronized at March 30, 2024 12:24 PM (dVoh+)

126 No black suits, no black shiny shoes, instead they're wearing plaid shirts and khakis; we're just folks asking a couple of questions.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:25 PM (BhlQm)

127 The bint who interviewed Jordan Peterson comes to mind.

Yeah, that was one of the most entertaining BBC interviews ever, and catapulted Peterson to stardom.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)

128 Our government is much more resilient to change.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)


Not really, the Peronists (Kirchnerites) have a long history of political murder, and the entire social service and administrative state is built around corruption, intimidation and being the tail that wags the dog. Add in the actual risk of civil war every twenty years and brutal military dictatorships balanced off by a radical communist substrate, you have less stability than a fusion reactor core. Milei is riding the tiger there, and everyone knows it.

Oh, and the US and China is stirring the pot, and for a while there were concerns that some middle east terrorists were trying to set up in the North, so you got that as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 12:26 PM (D7oie)

129 Here's the basic question about Maher, Stewart, Colbert. Do what these midwits have to say about anything influence any minds? They are only talking to devoted followers who will forgive them for apostasy on a particular opinion as long as continue to espose the D party line.
Why should we on the right give a f about what they have to say. It doesn;t move the needle in our direction.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)

130 I’m not saying you are wrong about the state of the union right now but all the doomsayers need to look back on our history. We’ve been in similar situations many times. Hell , Wall Street was bombed by anarchists first back in the early 1900’s.

Again it does not diminish the problems we have now but rather just a thought not to give up and keep fighting.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (MNhXM)
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I see what I see, and if that makes me a "doomsayer," so be it. I believe the Good Guys will win, but I think things are going to get worse before they get better.

I also do not think there can be a peaceful transfer of power at this point. Too many people face prison terms. There will be a confrontation.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:27 PM (llXky)

131 Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7)

So? Maybe enough food for 15 people? Himself, his wife, if she was there, staffers, bodyguards, the Secret Service dudes? BFD.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:28 PM (tkR6S)

132 We’ve been in similar situations many times. Hell , Wall Street was bombed by anarchists first back in the early 1900’s.

*Ft. Sumter has entered the chat*

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:28 PM (CsUN+)

133 122 I’m not saying you are wrong about the state of the union right now but all the doomsayers need to look back on our history. We’ve been in similar situations many times. Hell , Wall Street was bombed by anarchists first back in the early 1900’s.

Again it does not diminish the problems we have now but rather just a thought not to give up and keep fighting.

I couldn't agree more. It is always tempting to assume we have it worse than at any time in history. We don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:23 PM (CsUN+)

but what is different now from all those times is that (except for 1860) we have never had the country squaring off into two opposing sides and openly saying "we no longer want to be part of the same country as those assholes." but look around, both right and left are saying that right now. California, Washington, and Oregon won't accept a Trump Presidency; a lot of our states won't accept another steal that reinstalls Biden.
No, we are headed for a great big crackup no matter how this election turns out, and everyone feels it coming.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:28 PM (q3gwH)

134 >>> Again it does not diminish the problems we have now but rather just a thought not to give up and keep fighting.

Posted by: polynikes
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I don't understand the ready submission.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:29 PM (BhlQm)

135 True, but the BBC "journalists" have been getting more obnoxious with each passing day. They don't ask questions, they deliver lectures, and then demand that you kiss their capacious asses. This guy wasn't having it. Good for him.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)


Soviets used to pull that sort of journalistic activism.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2024 12:29 PM (D7oie)

136 "government is bad and the only solution is to create greater, more powerful governments to control them"
Posted by: Kindltot
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That is why regretfully I can not endorse a 'veteran' running for office over a 'Mr Deeds' type because the mental stranglehold of bigger is better and less expensive overcomes common sense. Also, 'veteran' as a resume checkbox for some of the more establishment politicos.

Check your mindsets.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 30, 2024 12:29 PM (MIKMs)

137 Say often now, Leftists win it will get bleaker, probably into Depression time, the Leftists lose they will be up in arms, the elite fearing their position, the street troops will start riots.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 12:29 PM (fwDg9)

138 >>No, we are headed for a great big crackup no matter how this election turns out, and everyone feels it coming.

Had one of those before, too.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:30 PM (LkLld)

139 Biden administration bans religious symbols from being used by children of National Guardsmen who want to submit designs for…..Easter eggs in WH contest. Story at Red State.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2024 12:30 PM (ytd6i)

140 Fun to see the leftist assholes on X barking at Taibbi, particularly his remarks on Republicans having little institutional power nationally. They ring the bell about SCOTUS.

Oh, and the House of Reps, which only does kabuki theater with their screeching committee hearings.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 30, 2024 12:31 PM (KiBMU)

141 57 I don't know which thought creeps me out more - knowing that Anne Coulter willingly slept with Bill Maher, or knowing that Bill Maher willingly slept with Anne Coulter.

The personal lives of media figures should tell you that in their public life they are making money. Coulter identified a media niche that nearly no-one else was doing, jumped on it, and made a mint. Kind of like how you will see "men of God" like Osteen hanging with people like Nancy Pelosi. Grifters associate with grifters

Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2024 12:31 PM (3/XaG)

142 " She also has more corrections appended to her articles than most people have socks."

I don't know. I have a LOT of socks.

Posted by: Guy with a LOT of socks at March 30, 2024 12:31 PM (vFG9F)

143 Biden administration bans religious symbols from being used by children of National Guardsmen who want to submit designs for…..Easter eggs in WH contest. Story at Red State.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2024 12:30 PM (ytd6i)
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Good. Nothing earns loyalty like pissing on kids and religion at the same time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:32 PM (llXky)

144 >>>>Bill Maher Drops Stunning Monologue on the COVID Experts Who Got It Wrong

A lot of the dissenting opinions that were suppressed and ridiculed at the time have proven to be CORRECT.

This includes, but is not limited to:

COVID came from a lab
Ivermectin worked
Masks

+++++++++++++++++

The first thing done by the COVID-Big Medicine-Government-Media Complex was intentionally throwing Common Sense out the window.

Posted by: Gref at March 30, 2024 12:32 PM (5fDan)

145 101 Democrats have a massive operation to undermine the next election. They have lawyers, lawsuits and people on the ground in every important state

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I hope you're not right, but 2020 shows they know how to play the game. There's fraud even with in-person voting; this current madness is rile for fraud..Surprise! In Chicago, they just "found" 10,000 mailed ballots - without postmark- in a tight election race. Surprise!

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 30, 2024 12:33 PM (d69z7)

146 >>>> Why should we on the right give a f about what they have to say. It doesn;t move the needle in our direction.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Right. He isn't saying something revelatory to the audience. It doesn't parrot the MSM but it's common knowledge. That's the joke of it for them.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:33 PM (BhlQm)

147 Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2024 12:31 PM (3/XaG)

I guess no one here has a liberal leaning significant other.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:34 PM (MNhXM)

148 138 >>No, we are headed for a great big crackup no matter how this election turns out, and everyone feels it coming.

Had one of those before, too.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:30 PM (LkLld)

If Trump doesn't get JFK'd before the election (they might do it) then I could see not a Civil War like the 1860's, but two groups of States both declaring themselves the winners of the election and both setting up parallel governments, each claiming authority. Especially if Congress breaks down and refuses to certify any winner.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:34 PM (q3gwH)

149 Maher gets very little credit from me…. The people who deserve credit are those that actually fought the insanity in real time. Nurses who lost their jobs because they didn’t want to get the vax after having Covid… the Great Barrington Declaration people…. They got it right in real time. Maher’s riff is funny though

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 12:34 PM (gZ3KO)

150 Had one of those before, too.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 12:30 PM (LkLld)
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Yeah, I hear it was kind of unpleasant for those involved. I still think Spain is a better example - less regional, more ideological.

One of the reasons I don't watch the news (or come here during the week) is because all these events are by themselves inconsequential and find I get more use out of being involved in my community and with my family. If things get sporty, I'm going to rally to my parish, not my online buds.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:34 PM (llXky)

151 Count me in with the group that wants the BBC prick shot.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at March 30, 2024 12:35 PM (17s+e)

152 than most people have socks. pic.twitter.com/8p3lTl8YvP

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 14, 2022



Deliberate irony there?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:35 PM (bFMZX)

153 I disagree. What he did was attack the AGW assholes on their own ground, using their own claims to destroy them. He's right: Europe lives it up and then tells the Third World to stay poor "for the planet."

It's good to point out when people are wrong even on their own terms.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:20 PM (llXky)

It was special pleading. He seems to agree with the AGW premise, but says it doesn't apply to Guyana, because, reasons.

Like Maher, he is no ally of mine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:35 PM (tkR6S)

154 If Trump doesn't get JFK'd before the election (they might do it) then I could see not a Civil War like the 1860's, but two groups of States both declaring themselves the winners of the election and both setting up parallel governments, each claiming authority. Especially if Congress breaks down and refuses to certify any winner.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:34 PM (q3gwH)
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Yes, that's one scenario I've considered. No point in worrying about it, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:36 PM (llXky)

155 If things get sporty, I'm going to rally to my parish, not my online buds.

Awww......
*kicks dirt*

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:37 PM (CsUN+)

156 139 Biden administration bans religious symbols from being used by children of National Guardsmen who want to submit designs for…..Easter eggs in WH contest. Story at Red State.

Posted by: Jen the origina
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White House has gone full pagan. Easter eggs are from the goddess of estrus. The White House is embracing her in full denial of Jesus the Christ.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:38 PM (BhlQm)

157
but what is different now from all those times is that (except for 1860) we have never had the country squaring off into two opposing sides and openly saying "we no longer want to be part of the same country as those assholes." but look around, both right and left are saying that right now. California, Washington, and Oregon won't accept a Trump Presidency; a lot of our states won't accept another steal that reinstalls Biden.
No, we are headed for a great big crackup no matter how this election turns out, and everyone feels it coming.

Posted by: Tom Servo
I agree with this except this is not a 50/50 split. I would say it ismore like a 70/30 split. The difference is that we, the 70%, are starting to finally get it through the heads of the powers that be that we are actually in hte majority. We now have a voice to break through the monopoly the media has had strangling voices of dissent. They just cannot cover up anymore the obvious damage their policies are doing. People are seeing it every day. Crime, addiction, mental illness, skyrocketing costs.
This election is a turning point. Whether for good or ill remains to be seen.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 12:38 PM (t/2Uw)

158 Hiya

Posted by: JT at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (T4tVD)

159
It was special pleading. He seems to agree with the AGW premise, but says it doesn't apply to Guyana, because, reasons.

Like Maher, he is no ally of mine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:35 PM (tkR6S)
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But it wasn't special pleading, it was the opposite. He pointed out that if AGW is a concern, his nation is doing more to stop it than the Europeans, who want to tell him to keep his country poor. Euros talk about biodiversity, and expect it to be provided for nothing.

Yeah, it's all a hoax, but he's calling them out on the fact that they don't actually believe what they say: if biodiversity is precious, PAY FOR IT. If carbon sinks are essential for life, PAY FOR IT.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (llXky)

160 Even during the civil war, did the average northerner want every southerner dead? I don’t think so. But today the average leftists literally wants everyone in the right dead. And they’d be more than happy to pull the trigger if given a chance.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (hxe/1)

161 Yeah, I hear it was kind of unpleasant for those involved. I still think Spain is a better example - less regional, more ideological."

As noted before, the English Civil wars of the 1640's were like that. It's been noted, and there is much truth in the idea, that the English speaking peoples have been refighting the issues of the English Civil Wars for nearly 400 years now; everything was in play. Religion, class, political identity, everything we've ever fought about since came up then.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:40 PM (q3gwH)

162 145 101 Democrats have a massive operation to undermine the next election. They have lawyers, lawsuits and people on the ground in every important state

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I hope you're not right, but 2020 shows they know how to play the game. There's fraud even with in-person voting; this current madness is rile for fraud..Surprise! In Chicago, they just "found" 10,000 mailed ballots - without postmark- in a tight election race. Surprise!


And we FINALLY have a crew at the RNC that seems to understand that we need to match and exceed this effort. Will they succeed? Who knows, but it's better than having Lady LuLuLemon sticking her fingers in her ears and going lalalalala.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:41 PM (CsUN+)

163 > We are on the edge of following that path but we aren't fully there yet. The two situations have a lot of differences but the point is that change can come through peaceful means when enough people get tired of the lies and destruction of their way of life.
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"Enough people get tired of the lies..."

Roughly half the population digs the current environment. They down with the struggle. I'm dubious whether they'll ever get tired of the lies and destruction of their way of life. Because they like what sort of life they have.... currently.

I certainly agree the lies and destruction is, in fact, happening. I presume some people "may" get tired of this shit, I'm just not certain they "will." Or, more to the point, enough people actually do get fed up to effect change. That's a pretty big ask, IMO.

I'm too old to believe I'll see any improvement so I'm obviously a bit jaded in my opinions.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:41 PM (Q4IgG)

164 No black suits, no black shiny shoes, instead they're wearing plaid shirts and khakis; we're just folks asking a couple of questions.

Another reason not to open the door to someone unknown.

Obligatory: disband the fib.

Morning all 🙂

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2024 12:41 PM (S5+ge)

165 Even during the civil war, did the average northerner want every southerner dead? I don’t think so. But today the average leftists literally wants everyone in the right dead. And they’d be more than happy to pull the trigger if given a chance.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (hxe/1)
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Only if they can do it from a safe distance. The one thing that gives me hope that any confrontation will end quickly is that leftists are so physically feeble and mentally fragile.

Kyle Rittenhouse showed more combat capability than the dozens of goons surrounding him. That spoke volumes.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:42 PM (llXky)

166 The Left are like the Muslims, 10% want to kill the infidels, 80% want the 10% to kill the infidels.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:42 PM (bFMZX)

167 I guess no one here has a liberal leaning significant other.

Not yelling at you personally at all, but one of the things that really grates on me is the usage of the terms "left" and "liberal" to describe the social side that mostly consists of the rich and powerful, and those that dream of forcing all society to live according to their personal customs and worldview. People see the Left as being "cool, lovable hippies" like The Dude in that Coen Brothers movie when in reality they are nasty rich and perverted versions of the Church Lady from SNL

Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2024 12:42 PM (3/XaG)

168 As noted before, the English Civil wars of the 1640's were like that. It's been noted, and there is much truth in the idea, that the English speaking peoples have been refighting the issues of the English Civil Wars for nearly 400 years now; everything was in play. Religion, class, political identity, everything we've ever fought about since came up then.

I can't believe you neglected to mention crossbows vs longbows here.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:43 PM (CsUN+)

169 ---
Only if they can do it from a safe distance. The one thing that gives me hope that any confrontation will end quickly is that leftists are so physically feeble and mentally fragile.



Which is why the military has gone woke. Give Antifa a rifle and say go kill the deplorables. If they have the backing of the government they won’t be so feeble.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:43 PM (hxe/1)

170 Even during the civil war, did the average northerner want every southerner dead? I don’t think so. But today the average leftists literally wants everyone in the right dead. And they’d be more than happy to pull the trigger if given a chance.
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (hxe/1)

Concur. You cannot live in peace with today's democrat marxists. They want you dead. Be prepared to make them deader first.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2024 12:44 PM (R/m4+)

171 Hindsight is 20/20.

I think part of the problem is that, in this case, hindsight is not 20/20 among the people who make the decisions. The administrative left is fully prepared to make exactly the same “mistakes” with even flimsier justification next time around.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2024 12:45 PM (EXyHK)

172
Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

A Five Guys value meal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 30, 2024 12:45 PM (63Dwl)

173 Which is why the military has gone woke. Give Antifa a rifle and say go kill the deplorables. If they have the backing of the government they won’t be so feeble.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:43 PM (hxe/1)
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No, its checking out in record numbers. Biden managed to loose a full army corps to retirement and separation. The remainder are overworked and forced to sit through endless struggle sessions. You have hollow units whose equipment was illegally sent to Ukraine.

No one wants to talk about how bad it is, but it's bad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:45 PM (llXky)

174 A couple years ago I asked my nephew and his wife where they get their news. The answer: from you guys.

I wonder what the breakdown is with regard to where people get their news. The question might not be all that relevant though because I think most people are " influenced" into group think.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2024 12:45 PM (S5+ge)

175 Basically, he was just baffling a BS artist with the same brand of BS.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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This. Which is fine, as long as it was bull shit he hadn't personally taken to heart.
As I watched the video, I wasn't convinced this was the case.

Posted by: From about that Time at March 30, 2024 12:46 PM (4780s)

176 Washington Nearsider: How could I order a model? Are you willing to ship them?
Posted by: T at March 30, 2024 11:12 AM (PiAHt)

I'm sorry for not being able to participate in the weekend thread svery often.

You guys are amazing.

Contact me at Washingtonnearsider at gee mail, and we can talk about it. I've also got hundreds of pictures of my past work.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 30, 2024 12:47 PM (12GKv)

177 This. Which is fine, as long as it was bull shit he hadn't personally taken to heart.
As I watched the video, I wasn't convinced this was the case.


I think he was tired of having things whitesplained to him.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 12:47 PM (CsUN+)

178 White House has gone full pagan. Easter eggs are from the goddess of estrus. The White House is embracing her in full denial of Jesus the Christ.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:38 PM (BhlQm)
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And this is a good thing. Clarity is very helpful.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (llXky)

179 It seems slightly odd that I am being barraged with firearm emails on Easter Weekend.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (bFMZX)

180 >>>> but what is different now from all those times is that (except for 1860) we have never had the country squaring off into two opposing sides and openly saying "we no longer want to be part of the same country as those assholes." but look around, both right and left are saying that right now. California, Washington, and Oregon won't accept a Trump Presidency; a lot of our states won't accept another steal that reinstalls Biden.
No, we are headed for a great big crackup no matter how this election turns out, and everyone feels it coming.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Too much NYC/DC television talk. Those states will fall in line. They may bitch but they can't clean the shit off their sidewalks.
It's mouth. Trump wins it will be more mouth.

Ninety percent 90% of America is not for this DeepState push.
Quantity has its own quality

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (BhlQm)

181 I'm not saying that they aren't decent deals but ...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (bFMZX)

182 The military is “bad” if the military’s job is protect the US from foreign enemies. But the new military is not for that. It’s from eradicating domestic enemies of the regime. You don’t need millions of soldiers for that stationed around the world.

These people know what they’re doing. They’ve pushed out all the normies. They may not have replaced all of them yet with Antifa trannies. But they don’t have to. Even if they replace 60% it’s enough to kill millions of Americans.

That’s the end goal.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (hxe/1)

183 Oh, they want to save democracy, all right.

Much as the German Democratic Republic was a democracy.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 12:49 PM (8sMut)

184 178 White House has gone full pagan. Easter eggs are from the goddess of estrus. The White House is embracing her in full denial of Jesus the Christ.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 12:38 PM (BhlQm)
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And this is a good thing. Clarity is very helpful.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March


Agreed. And the more Pope Francis pushes his satanic bs, the more people are waking up.

I'd love to see an African Pope follow him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (7U1Wr)

185 Was just thinking, when the shit hits the fan an politicians are hanging off lampposts everywhere, at least they won't be whining that women are underrepresented.

Posted by: From about that Time at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (4780s)

186 Been awhile
Show me a Leftist and I will show you someone who wants the Gulags opened

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (fwDg9)

187 Much as the German Democratic Republic was a democracy.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 12:49 PM (8sMut)

It’s right there in the name, dude.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (hxe/1)

188 The military is “bad” if the military’s job is protect the US from foreign enemies. But the new military is not for that. It’s from eradicating domestic enemies of the regime. You don’t need millions of soldiers for that stationed around the world.

These people know what they’re doing. They’ve pushed out all the normies. They may not have replaced all of them yet with Antifa trannies. But they don’t have to. Even if they replace 60% it’s enough to kill millions of Americans.

That’s the end goal.

Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (hxe/1)
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Okay, you're utterly delulsional. The military can't even stage convoys, there are regular "stand downs" for aircraft that don't function. It is falling apart. You think people that are staring at a calendar waiting to get out are going to open fire on civilians???

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (llXky)

189 I tend to think that a lot of the people involved in queering the last election were just in it for the money. Not idealists, just flunkies getting paid who prefer Ds because that is their supply of graft. With the money now flowing to illegals, Zuckbucks being curtailed and more scrutiny on elections, I wonder if the motivation to support the democrats will be diminshed.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 30, 2024 12:51 PM (t/2Uw)

190 Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

He probably fed the crew and folks who were with him.

So what?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2024 12:52 PM (7U1Wr)

191 Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2024 12:42 PM (3/XaG)

I understand what you’re saying . I was just using your comment to point out Coulter not the only conservative to , unexplainable to me, get into a relationship with a liberal.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:52 PM (MNhXM)

192 Agreed. And the more Pope Francis pushes his satanic bs, the more people are waking up.

I'd love to see an African Pope follow him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (7U1Wr)
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Yeah Fiducia Supplicans really radicalized the cardinals. Cardinal Zen is even circulating an "anonymous" discussion of who should follow Francis. Has that ever happened before? Open statements of "Yeah, so when this guy goes to hang with St. Peter, who should we pick? Can't be long now..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:52 PM (llXky)

193 But it wasn't special pleading, it was the opposite. He pointed out that if AGW is a concern, his nation is doing more to stop it than the Europeans, who want to tell him to keep his country poor. Euros talk about biodiversity, and expect it to be provided for nothing.

Yeah, it's all a hoax, but he's calling them out on the fact that they don't actually believe what they say: if biodiversity is precious, PAY FOR IT. If carbon sinks are essential for life, PAY FOR IT.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (llXky)

Guyana is doing nothing to stop Global Warming (for those who accept the premise that burning fossil fuels causes Global Warming). The jungle was there and thriving, long before the first drill began turning on Guyanese oilfields. The carbon sink was sinking all the carbon it could without benefit of man-made CO2. Is it possible that the growth rate of the jungle amped up a bit with the increase of CO2 from 300 ppm to 400 ppm? Maybe, but we will never be able to prove that, because good pre-industrial data for its growth rate does not exist.

His exact argument could be used by Canada, or the USA, or Russia, all have forests.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 12:53 PM (tkR6S)

194 Kyle Rittenhouse showed more combat capability than the dozens of goons surrounding him. That spoke volumes.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:42 PM (llXky)

Not to mention the legal machine deployed against him turned out to be incompetent.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 12:54 PM (8sMut)

195 "Yeah, so when this guy goes to hang with St. Peter, who should we pick? Can't be long now..."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:52 PM (llXky)

I wouldn't be counting on St. Peter if I were him

Posted by: It's me donna at March 30, 2024 12:54 PM (Akjoo)

196 These people know what they’re doing. They’ve pushed out all the normies. They may not have replaced all of them yet with Antifa trannies. But they don’t have to. Even if they replace 60% it’s enough to kill millions of Americans.

That’s the end goal.
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 12:48 PM (hxe/1)


Perhaps it is Boomer Optimism as my son suggests but, I just can't see it going that far. The Army has around 475K personnel total, the Marines less than 200K. The Airforce has 300K but they are services heavy. I don't see the Navy or the Coast Guard playing a significant role in fighting Americans.

It isn't a large number in a nation this armed and this populous.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:55 PM (bFMZX)

197
It was special pleading. He seems to agree with the AGW premise, but says it doesn't apply to Guyana, because, reasons.

I would prefer push back against the AGW lie, but any resistance is helpful in my mind, especially when that resistance is spirited as his was.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2024 12:55 PM (S5+ge)

198 Agreed. And the more Pope Francis pushes his satanic bs, the more people are waking up.

I'd love to see an African Pope follow him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (7U1Wr)
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The priest at the Catholic church I infrequently attend is from Nigeria (I think). I haven't attended Mass since he took over the parish, but I hear he's very conservative.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at March 30, 2024 12:55 PM (MvA9C)

199 I understand what you’re saying . I was just using your comment to point out Coulter not the only conservative to , unexplainable to me, get into a relationship with a liberal.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 12:52 PM (MNhXM)
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Dated a lot of liberal girls. Sort of comes with living in a college town. They had a certain amount of moral flexibility that the conservative ones lacked. I very much channeled St. Augustine: "Lord make me chaste, but not just yet."

Married a conservative gal from Appalachia.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:55 PM (llXky)

200 Okay, you're utterly delulsional. The military can't even stage convoys, there are regular "stand downs" for aircraft that don't function. It is falling apart. You think people that are staring at a calendar waiting to get out are going to open fire on civilians???
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:50 PM (llXky)

Also, the US military has been allowed to wither, and is not nearly as big as it appears. When you first look up some numbers, you'll see that "The US has 1.3 million active duty military personell!". But drill down and you find that only 168,000 are combat troops, the rest do other stuff.

168,000 men, even well armed, cannot control 350 million.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:56 PM (q3gwH)

201 168,000 men, even well armed, cannot control 350 million.

*cough*

Posted by: The Raj at March 30, 2024 12:57 PM (CsUN+)

202 nurse point was $200 means he had no more than 7 - 8 people with him with the price red of hamburgers

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 12:58 PM (fwDg9)

203 The priest at the Catholic church I infrequently attend is from Nigeria (I think). I haven't attended Mass since he took over the parish, but I hear he's very conservative.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at March 30, 2024 12:55 PM (MvA9C)
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Our bishop says 620 people will enter the Church in our diocese this weekend. That's the highest in 10 years and 30% more than last year.

The current crop of seminarians are VERY conservative. They've done surveys going back decades among them to see how liberal vs orthodox they are and the "very liberal" are all but extinct. Some 80% identify as orthodox, which bodes well for the future.

Plus, we've got lots of them. Biggest classes in years! God is providing for us!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:58 PM (llXky)

204 We have way more experienced combat troops outside the military than we have in it. Which way are Iraq and Afghan veterans going to jump if things get spicy?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:58 PM (bFMZX)

205 When you think of democrat marxists, don't think of the cool hippie like The Dude from The Big Lebowski.

Think of the khmer rouge girl with the plastic bags from The Killing Fields.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 30, 2024 12:59 PM (R/m4+)

206 168,000 men, even well armed, cannot control 350 million.

*cough*

Posted by: The Raj at March 30, 2024 12:57 PM (CsUN+)
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Most of India had indigenous rulers with considerable autonomy.

Plus the Indian Army, so wrong there as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:59 PM (llXky)

207 Maher gets very little credit from me…. The people who deserve credit are those that actually fought the insanity in real time. Nurses who lost their jobs because they didn’t want to get the vax after having Covid… the Great Barrington Declaration people…. They got it right in real time. Maher’s riff is funny though
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 12:34 PM (gZ3KO)

People often want to compare Maher to Jon Stewart, and they seem to preface the comments by saying one or the other is funny, but....

I don't care about that, neither of them ever appealed to me as performers, but what these guys are, they're pseudo-intellectuals, and they serve as a bellwether for what is acceptable criticism of the regime. They'll smugly proclaim what is right, and of course you're a fool if you don't agree with them, and then the casually step over the line, when it's allowed.

At least the ladies of The View let you know they're fully bought and paid for.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 12:59 PM (UxriW)

208 201 168,000 men, even well armed, cannot control 350 million.

*cough*
Posted by: The Raj at March 30, 2024 12:57 PM (CsUN+)

heh. The Raj always did a great job convincing all parties, most notably the Hindu's, the Muslims, and the Sikhs that All Hell was going to break loose if they didn't keep them standing in the middle as a referee.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 01:00 PM (q3gwH)

209 >>>What happens when journalists from the left decide

That sorta presumes that they have free agency, which, I dunno.

Posted by: m at March 30, 2024 01:00 PM (o3SCB)

210 My Constitutional Republic has not been in safe hands for the past 100 plus years.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2024 01:00 PM (o2ZRX)

211 To that BBC reporter:
Go to China and lecture Xi about carbon.
Go to the Middle East and lecture the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia about carbon.
Go to Iran and lecture the Imams and Mullahs about carbon.
Then you can come back to Guyana and lecture.
Otherwise, shut up and get out.

Posted by: JB1000 at March 30, 2024 01:00 PM (7Gxzj)

212 We have way more experienced combat troops outside the military than we have in it. Which way are Iraq and Afghan veterans going to jump if things get spicy?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 30, 2024 12:58 PM (bFMZX)
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The defeat in Afghanistan was the tipping point. Our troops getting killed in Jordan and Syria for no reason is only making it worse.

And the fact that these people can't stop themselves from crapping on veterans, who must be evicted to make room for migrants. The Easter Egg thing is just icing on the cake.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:01 PM (llXky)

213 Yeah, it's all a hoax, but he's calling them out on the fact that they don't actually believe what they say: if biodiversity is precious, PAY FOR IT. If carbon sinks are essential for life, PAY FOR IT.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 12:39 PM (llXky)

One of the reasons France has no interest in cutting French Guiana loose is because its rain forests give it a “carbon offset” that it can use all the while ignoring whatever international agreements are out there on whatever they will call global warming next in the name of marketing. (Climate change is dumb; climate ALWAYS changes.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:01 PM (8sMut)

214 Yep…. Even if our military is in bad shape right now it’s way more powerful than it needs to be to kill many American citizens if it were turned inward. I honestly don’t think that’ll happen even with Milli Vanilli and Austin type people in charge. However long term…. If they continue to fill out the ranks with lefties and illegals and drive away the normies there could come a time where that Army would happily follow orders to kill or arrest all “insurrectionists” and “white Christian nationalists”…. I don’t think we’re close to that threshold now. Another decade of Brandon type junta? Maybe

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 01:01 PM (gZ3KO)

215 207 the ladies of The View let you know they're fully bought and paid for
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 12:59 PM (UxriW)

ewwww

Posted by: m at March 30, 2024 01:02 PM (o3SCB)

216 My Constitutional Republic has not been in safe hands for the past 100 plus years.
Posted by: Eromero

The League of Nations was supposed to work!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 01:02 PM (DAb3/)

217 Most of India had indigenous rulers with considerable autonomy.

Plus the Indian Army, so wrong there as well.


Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:02 PM (CsUN+)

218 Here's a link for the Tabernacle Choir's Easter program tomorrow morning: https://tinyurl.com/mr26uf6n

And yes, the Hallelujah Chorus will be the last number in our program.

Posted by: Half Dozen at March 30, 2024 01:04 PM (eHovo)

219 If it ever does go hot I believe the military will have a lot of desertions if they are ordered into action regard to a political divide .

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 01:04 PM (MNhXM)

220 One of the reasons France has no interest in cutting French Guiana loose is because its rain forests give it a “carbon offset” that it can use all the while ignoring whatever international agreements are out there on whatever they will call global warming next in the name of marketing. (Climate change is dumb; climate ALWAYS changes.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:01 PM (8sMut)
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Yes, but if AGW is the frame, you have to stay in that frame or have a different discussion. It is often useful to stay in a false frame if you can win using the existing rules. Again, I grew up in and live in a liberal college town, and I've found it very useful to argue against leftists *from the left* to show them how selfish and mean they are.

What that guy did was brilliant, because reporter was basically saying Guyana had a sacred duty to be poor and he said "No. You first."

IF the carbon is important and IF biodiversity is essential, Bill Gates needs to start writing checks to third world kleptocrats.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:04 PM (llXky)

221 Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake.

It was a good sale for the drive-in's daily receipts, good publicity for the drive-in going forward and the burgers were no doubt shared with Trump's entourage many of which probably miss meals due to his scheduling.
A simple gesture that probably made a few people's day.

Posted by: old chick at March 30, 2024 01:05 PM (sOete)

222 168,000 men, even well armed, cannot control 350 million.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 12:56 PM (q3gwH)

900,000 cops say you are wrong.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:05 PM (8sMut)

223 If it ever does go hot I believe the military will have a lot of desertions if they are ordered into action regard to a political divide .

Agree. A military unit is often said to lose combat effectiveness after losing 15% of its personnel. I think a lot more than that would either leave, or turn their guns on the people trying to run a coup.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:05 PM (CsUN+)

224 >>Roughly half the population digs the current environment. They down with the struggle. I'm dubious whether they'll ever get tired of the lies and destruction of their way of life. Because they like what sort of life they have.... currently.


Fewer every day this goes on. I travel to NYC in business fairly frequently and the mood has become considerably less favorable toward Democrat policies. Tens of thousands of people are leaving blue states because they do not like the policies.

And if we had an actual free press I think the reporting would show that Biden isn't nearly as popular as they lie to us now and he has the worst polling of any incumbent president since WWII.

I think the real number of true believers is pretty small. A cult even.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 01:06 PM (LkLld)

225 My first thought was ‘ There’s a South American country run by a Muslim?’

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 01:06 PM (MNhXM)

226 I honestly don’t think that’ll happen even with Milli Vanilli and Austin type people in charge. However long term…. If they continue to fill out the ranks with lefties and illegals and drive away the normies there could come a time where that Army would happily follow orders to kill or arrest all “insurrectionists” and “white Christian nationalists”…. I don’t think we’re close to that threshold now. Another decade of Brandon type junta? Maybe

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 01:01 PM (gZ3KO)
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Milley is gone. Brown is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Air Force, Texas A&M ROTC grad.

Leftists aren't joining the military. Most of them are too fat or drug-addled to get in. The core of both active and reserve is military families and they are taking a break. Look at the numbers: the Army is down 10% in two years. That means many units are incapable of operation because the losses aren't evenly distributed.

I suspect most units will call in sick.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:08 PM (llXky)

227 the ladies of The View let you know they're fully bought and paid for
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 12:59 PM (UxriW)

ewwww
Posted by: m at March 30, 2024 01:02 PM (o3SCB)

Sorry, may we contrast that with the notion that Sydney Sweeney's boobs are yearning to be free?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:08 PM (UxriW)

228 heh. The Raj always did a great job convincing all parties, most notably the Hindu's, the Muslims, and the Sikhs that All Hell was going to break loose if they didn't keep them standing in the middle as a referee.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 01:00 PM (q3gwH)

Heh. The Raj is why there is a guy named Mohammed Isaan Ali as president of Guyana. Guyana used to be British Guiana, a sugar-cane colony in South America. The local Indians proved to be unsuitable canefield workers, so the Brits imported a lot of manpower from Bengal or other parts of India.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 30, 2024 01:08 PM (tkR6S)

229 900,000 cops say you are wrong.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:05 PM (8sMut)
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That doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:10 PM (llXky)

230 Okay, you're utterly delulsional. The military can't even stage convoys, there are regular "stand downs" for aircraft that don't function. It is falling apart. You think people that are staring at a calendar waiting to get out are going to open fire on civilians???

I do believe this is why we haven't been disarmed and crushed by the "elite". Simply not enough reliable force to do so. They could nuke and bomb but wrecking their own fiefdom isn't really their goal. Why we see harassment of certain people in the hopes of sending a message and discouragement. If they push too hard they risk an uprising like what got rid of the Warsaw Pact dictatorships.

Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2024 01:10 PM (3/XaG)

231 208 I read somewhere that the Raj of Bhopal is the rightful inheritor of the throne of France, supposedly documented by DNA and stuff. I have some friends, Indian ancestry, total Americans, own a motel (go figure) and I brought that up BSing with the guy and wife. He chuckled and said a Raj can have any damn DNA he wants as long as the bank is open.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 30, 2024 01:11 PM (0EOe9)

232 Sorry, may we contrast that with the notion that Sydney Sweeney's boobs are yearning to be free?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:08 PM (UxriW)
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These are hills worth dying on.

Full article (by me): https://tinyurl.com/2998ns87

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:12 PM (llXky)

233 I think the real number of true believers is pretty small. A cult even.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2024 01:06 PM (LkLld)

There is an almost impenetrable bubble around those who have zero interest in any of these things happening around them, and nobody really knows how many people are inside the bubble.

What we do know is, ballots are cast on behalf of large swaths of those bubble people, and those in power count on, not just harvesting those ballots, but people OUTSIDE the bubble blaming the people inside the bubble for the decisions of the power-harvesters.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:13 PM (UxriW)

234 900,000 cops say you are wrong.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:05 PM (8sMut)
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That doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed

LEOs show up after the fact and try to figure out what happened.
They do not go in guns blazing if there isn't a prep being stupid.
CIA, FBI, ATF, ED, IRS, Homeland Security(barf), yeah they do.
And to counter them there are many vets who are hunters.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 01:13 PM (DAb3/)

235 Nothing happened to Bill Maher, other than recognizing the media (no blame was put on the govt in his monologue) got COVID almost completely wrong and has retracted nothing. He absolved Biden of responsibility for inflation (it was all due to the pandemic response you see), and then ironically attacked Trump for ignoring COVID at the end of the clip.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at March 30, 2024 01:13 PM (snyZJ)

236 One of the reasons France has no interest in cutting French Guiana loose is because its rain forests give it a “carbon offset” that it can use all the while ignoring whatever international agreements are out there

It still surprises and amazes me that this kind of thinking has moved from the theoretical and countries are willingly complying with agreements that are nonsensical.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 30, 2024 01:14 PM (S5+ge)

237 online:

Suspected NYC cop-killer held without bail in murder of Officer Jonathan Diller

Well, there's that, at least.

Posted by: m at March 30, 2024 01:14 PM (o3SCB)

238 Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

Was that just burgers or did it include fries and shakes? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at March 30, 2024 01:14 PM (JRP2U)

239 I don't even know what I could do, coloring an Easter egg, that would render it "religious," other than painting a cross on it, and in my long Catholic life, have never heard of or seen Easter eggs displaying crosses.

But what about coloring them the colors of the gay flag, which seems to have been construed as encompassing the tranny "community," also. LGB is followed by a T.

Did the Biden admin ban eggs displaying that color scheme from its Easter egg roll event? LGB is certainly as "religious" a community as the RC church.

And the term "Easter," with its capital "E." Is it some pagan holiday celebrating the arrival of spring? Is that how we are to think of it? Really?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (KiBMU)

240 People who think this is a political problem, resolved via voting and elections have their heads up their proverbial ass.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 12:02 PM (Q4IgG)

You tell em! STOP PARTICIPATING IN ELECTIONS. This worked for us. Maduro is gone now!

Posted by: Venezuelan opposition at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (8sMut)

241 it was all due to the pandemic response you see

I read that in Critical Drinker's voice. He often says "you see".

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (CsUN+)

242
I do believe this is why we haven't been disarmed and crushed by the "elite". Simply not enough reliable force to do so. They could nuke and bomb but wrecking their own fiefdom isn't really their goal. Why we see harassment of certain people in the hopes of sending a message and discouragement. If they push too hard they risk an uprising like what got rid of the Warsaw Pact dictatorships.

Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2024 01:10 PM (3/XaG)
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The National Guard troops were pulled out of DC because they were close to mutiny. Uncooked food, making them sleep on the floor, utter disregard for their welfare - the message was clear from the start. That's why the mission went away: there was no authority for a call-up, and they were technically volunteers who decided they were done.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (llXky)

243 > If it ever does go hot I believe the military will have a lot of desertions if they are ordered into action regard to a political divide .
Posted by: polynikes
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Yeah, probably. But some will want to go bash heads and shoot people. My hope is that if it gets to that point the military is totally in disarray. If not, and they're ordered to engage civilians I think the number of ideological sympathetic Soldiers who'll obey is significant enough to be a concern.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (Q4IgG)

244 Trump ordered $200 worth of burgers from Long Island drive-in for flight home after NYPD officer’s wake

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

It was just a standard value meal and the owner still won't make rent this month.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:16 PM (EweFd)

245 With the pay increase kicking in in CA, $200 at a burger joint should feed a family of four.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 30, 2024 01:16 PM (0EOe9)

246 My said-out-loud commentary on that deadbeat who shot that NY cop is vacillating between "What an ***hole" and "What a complete ***hole."

Posted by: m at March 30, 2024 01:17 PM (o3SCB)

247 Milley is gone. Brown is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Air Force, Texas A&M ROTC grad.

Leftists aren't joining the military. Most of them are too fat or drug-addled to get in. The core of both active and reserve is military families and they are taking a break. Look at the numbers: the Army is down 10% in two years. That means many units are incapable of operation because the losses aren't evenly distributed.

I suspect most units will call in sick.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:08 PM (llXky)

Oh I agree it’s not something that would happen now. But if years down the road you get an army with most normies gone and large numbers of illegals added…. All bets are off. You know how many millions of illegal military age men have entered the country in only the last 3 years. Some of our overlords would love to get them in the army. I don’t worry about now, I worry about what could be if we continue to get America hating totalitarians in control of our military over decades of time

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 01:17 PM (gZ3KO)

248 Thinking is the Bolsheviks were a minor minority yet took over Russia

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 01:17 PM (fwDg9)

249 It is an eater egg hunt. Easter.

You can shoot fireworks of the 4th of July, but don't say anything about independence!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:17 PM (EweFd)

250 You tell em! STOP PARTICIPATING IN ELECTIONS. This worked for us. Maduro is gone now!

Posted by: Venezuelan opposition at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (8sMut)
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Michigan's voting system is badly rigged. Not sure if it matters at this point.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:18 PM (llXky)

251 >>>His exact argument could be used by Canada, or the USA, or Russia, all have forests.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The positive deal is that he used the interviewers talking points against him. He made it clear to the audience that the interviewer is a fool; Therefore, the premise is foolish. The fact that he is able to use their huge unmanaged forest against them is humorous.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 01:18 PM (BhlQm)

252 Nothing happened to Bill Maher, other than recognizing the media (no blame was put on the govt in his monologue) got COVID almost completely wrong and has retracted nothing. He absolved Biden of responsibility for inflation (it was all due to the pandemic response you see), and then ironically attacked Trump for ignoring COVID at the end of the clip.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at March 30, 2024 01:13 PM (snyZJ)

Maher has been to the island. Just like Stewart.

They serve a role, dictated to them. Whatever droll comedy they toss at the masses, that's just their place in the machine, unlike for example, the ones who claim to bring people the news. I'm sure it's fun for them, up to a point, but make no mistake. Neither of these two men are allowed to say anything that isn't approved for them to say.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:18 PM (UxriW)

253 Oh I agree it’s not something that would happen now. But if years down the road you get an army with most normies gone and large numbers of illegals added…. All bets are off. You know how many millions of illegal military age men have entered the country in only the last 3 years. Some of our overlords would love to get them in the army. I don’t worry about now, I worry about what could be if we continue to get America hating totalitarians in control of our military over decades of time

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 01:17 PM (gZ3KO)
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We don't have years to wait. The election is where the clash will happen, if not before.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:19 PM (llXky)

254 ---
That doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:10 PM (llXky)

Sure it does. One guy says 168k people cannot control a country of 330 million. 900k is still not a lot in the face of 330 million but a group of people that is trained to turn their guns on its own citizenry seems to do just fine. And the cops aren’t as heavily armed as soldiers are yet.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:20 PM (8sMut)

255 I suspect most units will call in sick.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:08 PM (llXky)

As they did during the 1932 Veterans Bonus March in Washington DC.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 30, 2024 01:20 PM (iODuv)

256 It would be well to remember that muslims do what the say.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2024 01:21 PM (o2ZRX)

257 Maher is a libertarian, always willing to find common ground with the left because they agree on some social issue, but the right can burn in Hell because of a minor policy disagreement.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:21 PM (EweFd)

258 >>>>But if years down the road you get an army with....
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We have no idea what's going to be years down the road. We don't know what's going to happen November 5 much less years down the road.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 01:22 PM (BhlQm)

259
We have no idea what's going to be years down the road. We don't know what's going to happen November 5 much less years down the road.
Posted by: Braenyard

4 years of no BLM/Pantifa riots now.
Whatever will Jane LIV think when they start up again at the beck and call of the Dems?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (DAb3/)

260 Yeah, probably. But some will want to go bash heads and shoot people. My hope is that if it gets to that point the military is totally in disarray. If not, and they're ordered to engage civilians I think the number of ideological sympathetic Soldiers who'll obey is significant enough to be a concern.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 01:15 PM (Q4IgG)
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I think I see the problem. A lot of you are fast-forwarding to the finale, where a line of troops faces Trumpian protestors. You're skipping a lot.

For example, the WARNORD, which tells units to prepare for action. In almost every unit ever, this will mean shuffling people around because everything is so understrength. That right there will be the first signal something is up because word will get out. This is when people will question the order, resign, desert, and call in sick.

You'll probably see a Covid-like crackdown, so the military will be devouring itself long before any rifles are issued.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (llXky)

261 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."

Matthew 7:15-20

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (oZhq1)

262 Cops: No way I am standing against my fellow citizens l!

Mayor: Pension

Cops: Who should we shoot first, boss??

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (EweFd)

263 @245 I need to get out first, but I think the best thing that can happen long term is for California to become part of Mexico. The US would just need to build a new border wall as migrants pour into the new Mexican state. China taking it over would be a disaster for the US because they would make it vibrant and solvent and build 10-20 military bases there.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (snyZJ)

264 You know, once upon a time a group of Americans tried to manage Guyana’s rain forests for them. Didn’t work out too well.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (8sMut)

265 Oh I agree it’s not something that would happen now. But if years weeks down the road you get an army with most normies gone and large numbers of illegals added….

Fify

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at March 30, 2024 01:25 PM (JRP2U)

266 We don't have years to wait. The election is where the clash will happen, if not before.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:19 PM (llXky)

And if the junta “wins” the election, don’t you think they’ll continue to mold the military to their liking? Time doesn’t stop after Nov 5… whoever wins gets to govern. Brandon didn’t really win last time but he’s been in office and look how much damage in such a short period of time

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 01:25 PM (gZ3KO)

267 All Hell is going to break loose if trump wins.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:25 PM (EweFd)

268 4 years of no BLM/Pantifa riots now.
Whatever will Jane LIV think when they start up again at the beck and call of the Dems?


That's the last thing they want, because it will remind voters of the chaos their moronic policies have caused. Pity about the DNC convention, but sow the wind...

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:26 PM (CsUN+)

269 Sure it does. One guy says 168k people cannot control a country of 330 million. 900k is still not a lot in the face of 330 million but a group of people that is trained to turn their guns on its own citizenry seems to do just fine. And the cops aren’t as heavily armed as soldiers are yet.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:20 PM (8sMut)
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Those 900k are divided into a vast patchwork of jurisdictions, most far from the scene of action. If you think that all the cops in all the town are going to move as one, you're as nutty as the leftist who dream of this weird power fantasy.

All cops are local. Period.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:26 PM (llXky)

270 All Hell is going to break loose if trump wins.

In the cities, perhaps. The rioters will be in for a surprise if they try to head out to the burbs and beyond.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:27 PM (CsUN+)

271 We have no idea what's going to be years down the road. We don't know what's going to happen November 5 much less years down the road.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 01:22 PM (BhlQm)

The other day I went on a mini rant at work, over transportation breakdowns, and how this is connected to the overall collapse that is coming.

I don't know, it was a good rant, I don't remember exactly what I said, but I do remember the people hearing me, it was like talking to a house plant. They say you can affect the health of the plant, if you talk to it, but how would you know?

It's just amazing to realize, the disconnect between people in meat space and reality. When The Thing comes, whatever The Thing is, the vast swath of the populace will be completely blindsided by it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:28 PM (Zhmrx)

272 And if the junta “wins” the election, don’t you think they’ll continue to mold the military to their liking? Time doesn’t stop after Nov 5… whoever wins gets to govern. Brandon didn’t really win last time but he’s been in office and look how much damage in such a short period of time

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2024 01:25 PM (gZ3KO)
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I've gone on record saying its even money that there even is one.

I expect the result to be disputed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:28 PM (llXky)

273 There’s no way to prepare for what we are about to see. We know it’s going to be bad, what with BLM/Antifa, cartel gangs, jihadis, chinese infiltrators, and leftist brownshirts. They are all here, been here some time.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2024 01:29 PM (o2ZRX)

274 The rioters will be in for a surprise if they try to head out to the burbs and beyond.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:27 PM (CsUN+)

Where?
— Media

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at March 30, 2024 01:29 PM (JRP2U)

275 I expect the result to be disputed.

I've forgotten, is that patriotic or not?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:29 PM (CsUN+)

276 269 Our Sheriff is one of the most pro 2A in the country. When Arkansas finally formalized its constitutional carry laws he considered it a force multiplier.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 30, 2024 01:30 PM (0EOe9)

277 In the cities, perhaps. The rioters will be in for a surprise if they try to head out to the burbs and beyond.
Posted by: Archimedes

That's when people really learn if they voted for the right Sherriff. The good ones will defend the norms and deputize people as needed to stop the mayhem.
Woe be to those who voted poorly.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2024 01:30 PM (DAb3/)

278 All Hell is going to break loose if trump wins.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:25 PM (EweFd)

If you're talking about an actual election, and the response of the "voters," I find that highly unlikely.

If what you mean is the Deep State and the collective elites will ramp up their efforts to undermine the will of the people, well sure.

But that's the hell we're already living in.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:30 PM (Zhmrx)

279 You and me we keep walking around and we see
All the bullshit around us
You try and keep your mind on what's going down
Can't help but see the rhinoceros around us

You say it's healing but nobody's feeling it
Somebody's dealing—somebody's stealing it
You say you don't see and you don't
You say you won't know and you won't let it come

Suddenly everyone will look surprised
Stars spinning wheels in the skies
Sun is scrambled in their eyes
While the moon circles like a vulture

Castles on the cliffs vanish
Cliffs like heaps of rubbish
Seen from the stars hour by hour
As splintered scraps and black powder

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 01:31 PM (BhlQm)

280 There’s no way to prepare for what we are about to see. We know it’s going to be bad, what with BLM/Antifa, cartel gangs, jihadis, chinese infiltrators, and leftist brownshirts. They are all here, been here some time.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2024 01:29 PM (o2ZRX)
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Sure there is. Get offline and out into your community. Built up your actual physical networks. Stay in non-electronic (phone, personal) contact with friends and family. Check up on each other.

Get involved in your church, get to know the pastor, and the people who run the thing. Buy supplies and reach out to friends with skills and equipment.

Plant a vegetable garden.

Not only is it good preparation, it leads to a better quality of life.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:31 PM (llXky)

281 Tea leaves! Get your tea leaves right here.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 30, 2024 01:32 PM (fntvd)

282 1. Maher is asshole. Just because he's said some things that might help us, doesn't change that. Hell, Joe Stalin DID helpful things in the 40s. Still an enemy afterward.

2. It's an interesting question whether the military would be as useful to the left as they'd like. It's a big effort to change the kind of military we have into a kind of gendarmerie. But then, Stalin managed both.

3. I still expect riots to depress our sides turnout. E.g., in precincts with lots of old people.

4. If Trump wins, and they want to secede, I say let them, provided their counties are allowed to self-determine. See West Virginia's creation.

Happy Easter!

Posted by: Eeyore at March 30, 2024 01:33 PM (1bNHn)

283 I've forgotten, is that patriotic or not?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2024 01:29 PM (CsUN+)
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When Dems dispute an election, it is 100% pure patriotism. When Republicans do it, it's treason.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:33 PM (llXky)

284
It's just amazing to realize, the disconnect between people in meat space and reality. When The Thing comes, whatever The Thing is, the vast swath of the populace will be completely blindsided by it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:28 PM (Zhmrx)

that's true - but on the other hand, it has amazed me this year as to how many people I know who were formerly nonpolitical, will talk openly about the fear they have about what's coming. And many others have closed themselves up completely to hide from the fear. I've never seen such a widespread sense of dread for the future in my life.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 01:33 PM (q3gwH)

285 Tea leaves! Get your tea leaves right here.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion


Pffffft.

Posted by: Cracks on turtle shells at March 30, 2024 01:34 PM (CsUN+)

286 There’s no way to prepare for what we are about to see. We know it’s going to be bad, what with BLM/Antifa, cartel gangs, jihadis, chinese infiltrators, and leftist brownshirts. They are all here, been here some time.
Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2024 01:29 PM (o2ZRX)

Meanwhile, I read a story, just this morning, about a marijuana cartridge deal that went bad, resulted in two people dead, and three people charged with second degree murder.

The story talked about "men." The ages of all involved seemed to range from 17-19. And I'm guessing, of the participants, at least five of the seven were white boys from "good" homes.

These are the young men a healthy nation would be recruiting to defend itself against threats, foreign and domestic, and they're killing each other over marijuana cartridges.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:34 PM (Zhmrx)

287 2. It's an interesting question whether the military would be as useful to the left as they'd like. It's a big effort to change the kind of military we have into a kind of gendarmerie. But then, Stalin managed both.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 30, 2024 01:33 PM (1bNHn)
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Totally different situation. The Red Army (which Trotsky built, btw), was hardened in a massive civil war and then remained under arms to do Lenin's will. Our military is puny and demoralized by comparison.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:35 PM (llXky)

288 280 Always keep vehicles gassed up, never below 3/4 of a tank. Besides mobility, you have a charging station for cells, lap tops, etc.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 30, 2024 01:35 PM (0EOe9)

289 You know, Biden is a severe Catholic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:27 AM (FVME7)

severe...whatever does that mean?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Maybe it's "severed"

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 30, 2024 01:36 PM (TirNb)

290 These are the young men a healthy nation would be recruiting to defend itself against threats, foreign and domestic, and they're killing each other over marijuana cartridges.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:34 PM (Zhmrx)
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M-J remains illegal at the federal level, so none of these folks are eligible to serve.

Congress won't repeal it because it's too useful for bribes and protection money.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:36 PM (llXky)

291 that's true - but on the other hand, it has amazed me this year as to how many people I know who were formerly nonpolitical, will talk openly about the fear they have about what's coming. And many others have closed themselves up completely to hide from the fear. I've never seen such a widespread sense of dread for the future in my life.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 01:33 PM (q3gwH)

Yes, the dread is real, it's palpable. Everyone senses it, and I suppose some of those people who weren't really paying attention now are. That's a good thing, but as you said, many are shutting down to it, harder and harder each day, people who sense what's coming are tightening their eyes to avoid seeing it, putting more and more cotton in their ears to avoid hearing it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:37 PM (Zhmrx)

292 that's true - but on the other hand, it has amazed me this year as to how many people I know who were formerly nonpolitical, will talk openly about the fear they have about what's coming. And many others have closed themselves up completely to hide from the fear. I've never seen such a widespread sense of dread for the future in my life.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 01:33 PM (q3gwH)
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At the same time, you see Christian communities mobilizing as never before. People sense something coming, and they are responding in their own different ways.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:38 PM (llXky)

293 Illegals in the military...

The Army has, or had a program to get foreign nationals into the ranks under a program called "MAVNI."

Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest (MAVNI) was a recruitment program by the United States Department of Defense, through which legal non-immigrants (not citizens or legal permanent residents of USA) with certain critical skills are recruited into the military services of US. Certain health care professionals and experts in certain languages relevant to the US military.

Many of these recruits went AWOL and were never found.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

294 M-J remains illegal at the federal level, so none of these folks are eligible to serve.

Congress won't repeal it because it's too useful for bribes and protection money.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:36 PM (llXky)

When I was in, they routinely did random piss tests, and guys who popped dirty could and would be taken away in chains.

I strongly suspect most military units these days are avoiding the testing of those who are regularly imbibing in the devil's weed. I wouldn't begin to guess how many active duty personnel are using, but I'm absolutely certain it's no small number. And recruiters are NOT going to exclude someone from serving, because of a little puffy puffy problem.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:40 PM (Zhmrx)

295 Those 900k are divided into a vast patchwork of jurisdictions, most far from the scene of action. If you think that all the cops in all the town are going to move as one, you're as nutty as the leftist who dream of this weird power fantasy.

All cops are local. Period.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:26 PM (llXky)

Yet they are effective in enforcing the law even in a patchwork of institutions, no?

And no, I don’t think ALL the cops will move together as one, but enough of them will and will do so cheerfully. “We’re just following orders” is a justifiable defense as cops and their sycophants will happily tell you. At the very least, there will be chaos as different jurisdictions in some places fight it out, but if you think the cops are a bunch of sweethearts who do their jobs out of the love they have for their fellow citizens and will not turn their guns on the people at the first excuse, you’re a blithering idiot. Or woefully naive. Take your pick.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:41 PM (8sMut)

296 >>>I don't know which thought creeps me out more - knowing that Anne Coulter willingly slept with Bill Maher, or knowing that Bill Maher willingly slept with Anne Coulter.

Posted by: Tom Servo

>I'd give her the mandingo and you'd hear her bones rattling all the way over in Kalamazoo.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 30, 2024 01:42 PM (WtvCN)

297 Many of these recruits went AWOL and were never found.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)
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In order to integrate lots of illegals into the military, we'd have totally revamp the training because they would be closer to conscripts than the volunteers we are used to.

Again, people on the outside don't see that, but conscripts you basically have to treat like prisoners - fenced in barracks, guard posts, frequent roll calls. We're two generations away from that, and the bases themselves have evolved away from it.

So first, you'd have to build new facilities, or upgrade them, which takes time, and our current military cannot do anything fast. Basically, all the steps folks are saying are really difficult to perform. You don't just give and order and 10,000 troops show up ready to play.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:42 PM (llXky)

298 I strongly suspect most military units these days are avoiding the testing of those who are regularly imbibing in the devil's weed. I wouldn't begin to guess how many active duty personnel are using, but I'm absolutely certain it's no small number. And recruiters are NOT going to exclude someone from serving, because of a little puffy puffy problem.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:40 PM (Zhmrx)

I had to monitor piss tests recently, so no.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:42 PM (8sMut)

299 The other day I went on a mini rant at work, over transportation breakdowns, and how this is connected to the overall collapse that is coming.

I don't know, it was a good rant, I don't remember exactly what I said, but I do remember the people hearing me, it was like talking to a house plant. They say you can affect the health of the plant, if you talk to it, but how would you know?

It's just amazing to realize, the disconnect between people in meat space and reality. When The Thing comes, whatever The Thing is, the vast swath of the populace will be completely blindsided by it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:28 PM (Zhmrx)

Yep. Been there as well. You may as well be yelling at a wall. It's the same response. Sadly, the vast majority of the public is not as aware, OR involved with politics as we are. When it all comes to their door and bites them on the ass, they will be totally shocked. In more ways than one.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 30, 2024 01:42 PM (iODuv)

300 Thank you for the link on "Messiah". I once saw the manuscript for "Messiah", in the British Museum's manuscript room. (Also on display was the manuscript for "Beowulf".) It's clear that Handel wrote that music as quickly as he could move his pen over paper. It was like he was taking dictation, and writing as fast as he could to take it all down. It was his genius talking to him -- in the literal sense of the word, that is, a guiding spirit.

Posted by: Nemo at March 30, 2024 01:43 PM (S6ArX)

301 Ehhhhh.... i don't know about that. That is 8 million pounds.

BREAKING: MV DALI IS POTENTIALLY SITTING ATOP HIGH PRESSURE UNDERWATER GAS LINE

Source at ICS reports ship salvage effort will likely be delayed while line is surveyed and additional risk can be assessed

— John Ʌ Konrad V (@johnkonrad) March 30, 2024
He said, "The weight of steel/concrete pinning down bow of the vessel is estimated to be 3-4 thousand tons."

weight of steel/concrete pinning down bow of the vessel is estimated to be 3-4 thousand tons

— John Ʌ Konrad V (@johnkonrad) March 30, 2024

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 01:43 PM (EweFd)

302 GARDEN NOOD

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2024 01:45 PM (IJlXh)

303 At the very least, there will be chaos as different jurisdictions in some places fight it out, but if you think the cops are a bunch of sweethearts who do their jobs out of the love they have for their fellow citizens and will not turn their guns on the people at the first excuse, you’re a blithering idiot. Or woefully naive. Take your pick.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:41 PM (8sMut)
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Okay, so what local elected official is going to turn his police on his constituents? I mean, we saw this with the pandemic - huge swaths of law enforcement said "yeah, not my problem." The same will happen here. A single barber violated the lockown and they had to send State Troopers in to arrest him because the city and county said "Nah."

There's no reason for state or local authorities to get involved, so they won't. If there are riots, it will be in blue zones where they will get what they deserve.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 01:45 PM (llXky)

304 I had to monitor piss tests recently, so no.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:42 PM (8sMut)

How many years have you been out?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:46 PM (Zhmrx)

305 “Defeatist cynicism is the arrogance that we know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us.”

- Robert Pratt, “Pratt on Texas”

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:47 PM (8sMut)

306
How many years have you been out?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:46 PM (Zhmrx)

Zero.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:47 PM (8sMut)

307 The Bill Maher story is interesting in a “now that it’s over, the truth can be told” sort of way. At any time in this revelatory monologue did he mention, “and I helped, of my own free will and with great vigor?”

Posted by: Advo at March 30, 2024 01:48 PM (VHN21)

308 WeThePeople @people_wee
And Trump was right...again...as usual... [about using UV light to treat Covid]
https://tinyurl.com/yc72xj4p
News report screencaps.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 30, 2024 01:49 PM (2yu8s)

309 Yep. Been there as well. You may as well be yelling at a wall. It's the same response. Sadly, the vast majority of the public is not as aware, OR involved with politics as we are. When it all comes to their door and bites them on the ass, they will be totally shocked. In more ways than one.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 30, 2024 01:42 PM (iODuv)

I know this thread is coming to an end, but it fills my head and heart every day. I don't know what's coming, I'm trying to do what I can to live each day, but it's not easy.

I have a son who completely depends on me, and if something goes down, he won't survive it. Which means I won't either. I'm strangely ok with that.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:49 PM (Zhmrx)

310 263 @245 I need to get out first, but I think the best thing that can happen long term is for California to become part of Mexico. The US would just need to build a new border wall as migrants pour into the new Mexican state. China taking it over would be a disaster for the US because they would make it vibrant and solvent and build 10-20 military bases there.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at March 30, 2024 01:24 PM (snyZJ)

Better idea: have the state reorganized into a territory. Start over.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:50 PM (8sMut)

311 >>> And no, I don’t think ALL the cops will move together as one, but enough of them will and will do so cheerfully. “We’re just following orders” ...
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30
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Vote your mayor....carefully.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 01:51 PM (BhlQm)

312 Zero.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:47 PM (8sMut)

Not sure I believe you, but whatever.

If you are currently in the military, either you only know what's going on in your little AO, or you aren't going to reveal the truths that are happening around you, and you shouldn't.

The military is a rotted institution, just like everything else.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (Zhmrx)

313 Since its an open thread, I got a question for the horde. Does anybody have any experience with the drug Amiodarone? They gave it to me for a few weeks after the bypass surgery. From everything I have read its supposed to continue for a short period after surgery. My discharge papers had it listed to expire on march 15. My jerkoff cardiologist seems bent on keeping me on it. Its for Afib, and I don't have afib, but what I got lately is a shit load of side effects. I get sudden shortness of breath, and a few other things listed in the side effects. I was doing great up until week 5, and then this shit started kicking in, and from what I read it takes a few weeks to really get into your system, which is what I'm probably feeling now. I was walking 1/2 mile a day while gabbing on the phone with zero shortness of breath, now this crap is starting. My instincts are telling me stop taking it and telling the cardiologist to fuck off and die. Every time I call I get one of the brain dead office minions and never him. Opinions??

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (VwHCD)

314 A single barber violated the lockown and they had to send State Troopers in to arrest him because the city and county said "Nah."

And yet the State Troopers still did it. They violated the law and the barber’s civil liberties, but hey, THEY WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (8sMut)

315 My instincts are telling me stop taking it and telling the cardiologist to fuck off and die. Every time I call I get one of the brain dead office minions and never him. Opinions??
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (VwHCD)

Go over his head. It's possible the medication is doing exactly what it needs, and is helping you stay alive, but it's your life. No one else cares about it as much as you do, and if you're not getting the answers you need from his office, people above him need to know that.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:56 PM (Zhmrx)

316 I was walking 1/2 mile a day while gabbing on the phone with zero shortness of breath, now this crap is starting. My instincts are telling me stop taking it and telling the cardiologist to fuck off and die. Every time I call I get one of the brain dead office minions and never him. Opinions??
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (VwHCD)

I do not know anything about that drug specifically, but I have learned through the years to never ignore your instincts. I have seen many instances where the drugs prescribed to a patient cause much more trouble than the original problem itself.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2024 01:58 PM (q3gwH)

317 Not sure I believe you, but whatever.

If you are currently in the military, either you only know what's going on in your little AO, or you aren't going to reveal the truths that are happening around you, and you shouldn't.

The military is a rotted institution, just like everything else.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (Zhmrx)

What you believe or don’t believe doesn’t matter to me. I’m in, and I was sent to monitor a piss test this year. Out here in the real world, that happened. But if you don’t want to believe it because it doesn’t align with your world view, I can’t help you. Maybe Santy Claus will have lots of neat gifts under their tree this year for you too.

But what I will agree with you on is that there are problems in the military, and IMHO, it is because it is so focused deeply and intensely on exactly the wrong things. Having to do training on “extremism” is one of them.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:59 PM (8sMut)

318 And yet the State Troopers still did it. They violated the law and the barber’s civil liberties, but hey, THEY WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (8sMut)
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Whoa, keep the volume down, dude. You said that there were 900k cops ready and eager to open fire, and I pointed out that no, that wasn't the case. The State Police had to be called in because all the local agencies said no.

The State Police cannot dominate Michigan. They can't even support their own road patrols - they contract those to county sheriffs.

And yeah, he got arrested and let go, and the law authorizing the lockdown was struck down AND repealed, so in that case, the system somewhat worked.

But that was one dude in the entire state, and it took the entire machinery of the state to do that because all other police organizations said "No, we won't enforce your silly state mandate."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 02:01 PM (llXky)

319 They’ve pushed out all the normies. They may not have replaced all of them yet with Antifa trannies. But they don’t have to. Even if they replace 60% it’s enough to kill millions of Americans.

That’s the end goal.

Posted by: Montec

And when they begin doing so, that's when the bonds of civility drop from me and many like me. I may be olde, and somewhat well nourished, but my spine is straight, my eyes are clear, and my conscious untroubled with what needs to be done at that point.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 30, 2024 02:02 PM (MsrgL)

320 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 30, 2024 01:52 PM (VwHCD)

Get a second opinion stat.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2024 02:02 PM (MNhXM)

321 All Hell is going to break loose if trump wins.

Fīat iūstitia ruat cælum used to be kind of a popular attitude around here. What changed? Our Latin got worse?

"You're not going to vote your way out of this" does not mean incitement to insurrection and a call to civil war, suddenly?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 30, 2024 02:02 PM (zdLoL)

322 Berserker-Dragonheads Division, a friend was on it and didn't like it.
They give you the afib medication because of the high potential after an operation like yours.

There are other equally as efficacious medications, multaq and I'm looking for the other one. Tell your cardiologist to sample you a different one. I'll be back.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 02:07 PM (BhlQm)

323 I do honestly think that if by some miracle Trump wins in November the left will not abide. There will be a real insurrection between November and January. At a minimum, massive rioting and violence in an attempt to sway public opinion.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2024 02:08 PM (Q4IgG)

324 They’ve pushed out all the normies. They may not have replaced all of them yet with Antifa trannies. But they don’t have to. Even if they replace 60% it’s enough to kill millions of Americans.

That’s the end goal.

Posted by: Montec
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And an impossible one on any kind of useful time frame for them.

The Pentagon is in deep denial over the manning crisis, and so they are holding phantom units in place because disbanding them means removing command positions. That they will not willingly do. Generals like being generals.

That in turn means that units are understrength and incapable of fulfilling basic tasks. As I said before, the first step will be orders from on high requiring units to prepare themselves and this will require cannibalizing troops from other formations to reach operational capability. That will take time and cause a stir, and will give advanced warning to everyone else about what will happen next. It may even precipitate action within the military.

In the meantime, people are still leaving, so the remaining troops have to work harder and also want to get out, leaving less even less capability.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 02:08 PM (llXky)

325 Flecainide is the other one.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 02:09 PM (BhlQm)

326 " I do honestly think that if by some miracle Trump wins in November the left will not abide. There will be a real insurrection between November and January. At a minimum, massive rioting and violence in an attempt to sway public opinion."
**********
Yeah. That's going to change my mind.

Posted by: Cosda at March 30, 2024 02:10 PM (8liGs)

327 "You're not going to vote your way out of this" does not mean incitement to insurrection and a call to civil war, suddenly?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 30, 2024 02:02 PM (zdLoL)
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A national trucker strike would be one alternative to civil war. Or farmers withholding their products. Plumbers and electricians closing up shop.

No demonstrations, no easy arrests, just staying at home until one side caves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 30, 2024 02:10 PM (llXky)

328 >>>> In the meantime, people are still leaving, so the remaining troops have to work harder and also want to get out, leaving less even less capability.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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At the same time driving capable men and women into civilian society.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 30, 2024 02:12 PM (BhlQm)

329 But what I will agree with you on is that there are problems in the military, and IMHO, it is because it is so focused deeply and intensely on exactly the wrong things. Having to do training on “extremism” is one of them.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 01:59 PM (8sMut)

Dead thread, but I just came back, so I'll say this, if you're still here. What I said was, I have no way of knowing how many active duty personnel are currently using cannabis, but I'm sure it's not an insignificant number.

And then you said you monitor piss tests, so no, that's not true.

You realize the flaw in your logic, do you not?

How many rapes have you personally monitored in the military? You do realize there are not an insignificant number of rapes going on, right? Sorry to be so harsh, but you're going to dismiss what I'm saying if I don't lay it out for you.

Your institution is rotten. I'm sure you know that. Even if you can't say.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 02:29 PM (rrQHL)

330 Berserker, tell the brain dead minions you believe you are having a serious adverse reaction to the medication.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 30, 2024 02:36 PM (TirNb)

331 That interview with Guayana’s president should be required viewing for every Republican. That’s how you treat scumbags in the media.
Posted by: Montec at March 30, 2024 11:28 AM (hxe/1)

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Amen to that.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 30, 2024 02:41 PM (xT7BI)

332 I'm sick of hearing about how Trump fucked up on Covid. He had the whole medical bureaucracy telling him what to do, including the designated people in charge of responding to medical emergencies. He did everything that Fauci told home to do - what else could he do?!

Any doctor that disagreed with Fauci was excommunicated, so how could Trump do anything but follow the experts? Anytime he showed the slightest tendency for independent thought, he was torn to pieces by the media!

Trump was so controlled by the medical establishment that he's ashamed of it now, but what choice did he have? Hey, I know, let's play back all of Mahre's contemporaneous pronouncements and see how they stand up now!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 30, 2024 03:16 PM (fvaUq)

333 Liberals: "If we could just jail Trump, get rid of MAGA, end the Electoral College, stack the Supreme Court, ban voter ID, and censor free speech we could save democracy."

You forgot to add "... for our plaything." at the end of that!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 30, 2024 03:19 PM (fvaUq)

334 >>>Liberals: "If we could just jail Trump, get rid of MAGA, end the Electoral College, stack the Supreme Court, ban voter ID, and censor free speech we could save democracy."

You forgot to add "... for our plaything." at the end of that!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune

>These people are insane. Listen. Listen closely. This concept of "Democracy" is so fleetingly fragile like "Climate Change." All of these psychos, when you actually listen, pushing this nonsense, are evil.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 30, 2024 03:29 PM (WtvCN)

335 New York Post
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Religious-themed designs banned from White House Easter egg art contest

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You know, Biden is a severe Catholic.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 30, 2024 11:27 AM (FVME7)


Joe Biden needs to repent of his sins in the worst way. Sadly, neither his family (who are just a bad) or his bishop love him enough to care about his eternal soul.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 30, 2024 03:39 PM (pJWtt)

336 Posted by: Nemo at March 30, 2024 01:43 PM (S6ArX)

Thanks for the post .I appreciated your thoughts and do think Handel was spirit led, so his vision after completing the Messiah seems very believable.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 30, 2024 03:45 PM (XkYcA)

337 My instincts are telling me stop taking it and telling the cardiologist to fuck off and die. Every time I call I get one of the brain dead office minions and never him. Opinions??
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

Amio can cause pulmonary problems. But it is more than just for afib. See your cardiologist to discuss it before you just stop.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 30, 2024 04:35 PM (EweFd)

338 How many rapes have you personally monitored in the military? You do realize there are not an insignificant number of rapes going on, right? Sorry to be so harsh, but you're going to dismiss what I'm saying if I don't lay it out for you.

Your institution is rotten. I'm sure you know that. Even if you can't say.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2024 02:29 PM (rrQHL)

Here's the problem: If I had to observe piss tests, and the letters for them have gone out every week at my unit the entirety of the time I have been here, and other people that I talk to in other units are doing the same...well, what do you want me to conclude? Oh, I am to agree with BurtTC and disavow everything I see and hear, because BurtTC. OK, got it. See your own flawed logic?

People love to bitch at me about how things are going, and assure me that i am lying and don't know what I am talking about, from the comfort of their perch above the trench I am in.

My biggest ballache with your posts is that while I do not buy that the military is full of potheads, I do totally agree the military has its share of problems. I see it. Every damned day.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 04:45 PM (8sMut)

339 continued from 338: you know what I'd rather be doing? Hitting the range. Doing real activities that prepare me and my colleagues for things we might see downrange. Instead, we get to do DEI lectures and training on "extremism". There's a lot of misplaced priorities I see out there that I have problems with.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 30, 2024 04:48 PM (8sMut)

340 Way willowed but: Dear Berserker, I was put on Amiodarone after a series of arrythimias in 11-23, and a heart ICD (debrillator) in 9-23. I have not have any side effects so far, but Amiodarone has a lot of contraindications, so please check with your cardiodiologist or arrymthia doctor! Good luck!

Posted by: jayhawkone at March 30, 2024 06:31 PM (s0Obl)

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