Notes on Newsom and the Pax Americana

Sunset, Farm Country, Central California

Perhaps Joe Biden's "Feisty" and "Firey" State of the Union will keep his party from replacing him on the presidential ballot, but if not, Gavin Newsom is waiting in the wings, eager to serve. Here are a few reminders and new details concerning his actions both on the domestic and international fronts:

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Non-disclosure agreements concerning California State business policy discussions

You probably remember the story about Gavin Newsom's suspected involvement in arranging a carve-out for his friend, the owner of several Panera bakeries, from California's new minimum wage law for fast food restaurants.

Well, NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker has alerted us to a new twist on this story, which she has seen reported on local news: Non-disclosure agreements were used in negotiations of California's landmark fast food worker law

SACRAMENTO, Calif. --
We may never know what exactly happened in the final negotiations of California's controversial fast food minimum wage law because the groups involved signed non-disclosure agreements, multiple sources on all sides of the issue have confirmed to KCRA 3.
That law, which takes effect on April 1, has been at the center of intense scrutiny as Gov. Gavin Newsom faces allegations that he pushed for a special exemption in the law for bakeries to help benefit one of his billionaire donors who is also a Panera franchisee, Greg Flynn. Newsom has said the claim is absurd, and the franchisee said he never asked for special treatment.

The reporter here did some real work, and it's a fairly detailed piece. At the end:

Republican leaders call for Newsom to release documents about the bakery exemption
California Assembly Republican Leader James Gallagher and Senate Minority Leader Brian Jones on Thursday called for Newsom to voluntarily release records from his office about negotiations that led to the bakery carve out in the fast food bill.
A letter to Newsom called for the release of records related to the exception and communications between his administration and Flynn.
"While we realize some of the documents requested may be exempt from disclosure, we believe that in the interest of transparency, the public interest would be served by your voluntary disclosure of these records," the letter said.
Republican lawmakers previously called for California Attorney General Rob Bonta to investigate the governor's involvement in the special exemption for bakeries.
Bonta said his office is reviewing that letter.

Here's a video covering much of the information above.

And here's one from yesterday, with reactions from lawmakers.

An assemblyman named Fong from Bakersfield is proposing legislation to invalidate all laws involving non-disclosure agreements.

If City Councils can't set up non-disclosure agreements and must follow strict rules concerning public access, why not the favorites of the bigwigs?

Meanwhile, the State of California is chipping away at the rights of employers to have employees sign non-disclosure agreements.

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Gavin Newsom's Visit to China

Don't forget that Newsom visited China in late October. The visit was touted as focusing on environmental issues, but some other issues, such as fentanyl, were also broached.

He stopped off in Israel for a day on the way. An update on responses to his visit later.

Dan Walters, one of the last old-time "real journalists" who didn't go to J-school, wrote this about his trip in Gavin Newsom's trip to Israel and China was tinged with hypocrisy:

So what should Californians glean from their governor's global gallivanting last week?
We learned that Gavin Newsom won't let tinges of hypocrisy impede his obsession with becoming a national, or even international, political figure.
Newsom's hastily arranged first stop was in Israel, where he spent a day commiserating about the bloody assault by Hamas terrorists. His visit included a chat with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, some conversation with victims' families about living with the constant threat of violence, and watching a video that depicted the carnage. . .

It should be noted, however, that Newsom's show of solidarity with Israelis occurred just days after he signed legislation that, among other things, makes it illegal for Californians with concealed weapons permits to carry guns in their own synagogues, for example, to defend themselves against terrorists' attacks.
That's not an imaginary threat. Just four years ago on the last day of Passover, a man armed with a rifle burst into a synagogue in Poway, near San Diego, fatally shot one woman and injured three other congregants, including the synagogue's rabbi.
A year before, an even more horrific attack on a Pittsburgh synagogue left 11 dead.
In the aftermath of the attack on Israel, many American Jews are arming themselves. But in California, not only will Jews and worshippers in other faiths be banned from protecting themselves in their houses of worship, but would-be killers will know that potential victims in "sensitive" areas will be unarmed.

After his quick trip to Israel, Newsom continued to China for events that were supposed to highlight common interests in battling climate change.
Newsom said he wanted to sidestep the growing frictions between the U.S. and China over the latter's imperialistic ambitions, its harsh repression of political dissenters in Hong Kong, its ethnic cleansing of Uyghurs in Xinjiang and other economic issues. . .

"Divorce is not an option," Newsom also said. "The only way we can solve the climate crisis is to continue our long-standing cooperation with China."
That said, China's autocratic regime is not fundamentally different from Vladimir Putin in Russia or Hamas in Palestine. All want more power, all trample on human rights - often with indiscriminate violence - and all see the United States as the major impediment.
Moreover, as Newsom was extolling Xi and other Chinese leaders for their commitment to climate change, he was ignoring the fact that they are building coal-burning power plants as fast they can.
Finally, his soft-pedaling approach to China stands in stark contrast to his drumbeat of harsh rhetoric - which continued during his travels - directed at Republican politicians in America.

It's a great piece. Worth reading and even sharing.

Most of the mainstream media was complimentary about the trip, of course. For a maybe more balanced view, Fox in Los Angeles, did an extended video about the trip. There may be some additional useful information on the trip to China here.

You might also recall that this happed soon after Newsom's trip: San Francisco cleans up filthy streets as Xi Jinping visits from China to meet with Team Biden.

They could have cleaned up the filthy streets any time they wanted to clean them up.

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Update on Newsom and Israel

After his short visit to Israel in October, things didn't stay as straightforward for Newsom as he might have wanted. CalMatters, January 3: 90 days in, California politicians keep trying to navigate the Israel-Hamas war

As he promised, Newsom met with leaders of California Muslim and Arab communities on Dec. 16. The hour-long Zoom meeting, included 15 leaders from various chapters of the Council on American Islamic Relations, from mosques and from Palestinian Christian and Muslim communities. . .
Attendees described it as a positive meeting -- one in which their concerns were not dismissed or rejected, unlike experiences some California residents have had with elected officials.
"He listened, he expressed empathy and sympathy . . . and understands our concern," said Ahmed Soboh, chairperson of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, an advisory board for mosques in the region.
Attendees had six requests of Newsom, including to call for an immediate ceasefire and humanitarian aid, and to address civil rights violations and of freedom of speech of Californians who spoke in support of Palestinians. . .
Basim Elkarra, executive director of the Sacramento and Central Valley chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations -- whose parents were born in Gaza -- said he shared with the governor that he had lost 73 members of his extended family, and that Palestinians in Gaza are starving and have limited access to water.
But he acknowledged that the governor is in a difficult situation politically.
"It's very difficult for him to say anything or put out an announcement that can contradict Biden's stance at the moment," Elkarra said. "We still hope that somehow he'll come out stronger."
He also acknowledged that Newsom delivered on his promise to send medical and other aid to Gaza.
At the meeting, attendees asked the governor to "utilize his relationship with the president and other lawmakers to bring awareness to our sentiment and demands," according to the Shura Council.
But for Assembly Republicans, the state's response against Hamas has not been strong enough. . .

So, Newsom is expressing sympathy and sending token aid to both sides, apparently. Muslim leaders in California are understanding.

Students and activist groups, maybe not so much.

The Black Agenda Report calls Newsom a Zionist in Waiting

Those who want to cast a vote against Israel's war on Gaza in next year's presidential election have no choices except Dr. Jill Stein and Dr. Cornel West . Biden is 1000% behind Israel, as are Trump and all his Republican competitors, and independent RFK Jr. may be the worst pro-Zionist contender among them. Biden's seeming heir apparent, California Governor Gavin Newsom, had the colors of the Israeli flag projected on the state capitol building on October 9, then flew off to Israel to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog and grandstand about how personal Israeli anguish had become to him after meeting with survivors of the October 7 Hamas attack. His official statement said nothing about Gaza or Palestine.
In late November, Newsom chastised the Oakland City Council for passing a resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza without condemning Hamas.
Several years back, when the California Department of Education (CDE) released a draft curriculum for high school ethnic studies classes in 2019, it mentioned BDS and activists like Linda Sarsour. Jewish groups then accused the CDE and the governor of anti-Semitism, after which Newsom assured Jewish News of Northern California that the draft "will never see the light of day" and called it "offensive in so many ways." In the rewrite, there was no exploration of Palestine to be found. . .

Interesting that this would be on the "Black Agenda".

Earlier, Newsom skipped lighting the official Christmas tree because of protesters against Israel.

Do you see any notable differences from what Biden is facing?

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Pax Americana, South America

Why are the taxpayers of the United States borrowing money in the name of their unborn grandchildren for their Navy to send $500,000 to Chile for, �STEAM AND GENDER STRENGTHENING THE TRAJECTORIES OF GIRLS AND YOUNG PEOPLE FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN VILLA ALEMANA CHILE.�

Really? https://t.co/XMJyJTmR7e
— cdrsalamander (@cdrsalamander) February 19, 2024

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Pax Americana, Djibouti

Reuters, London:

Container ship MSC Sky II was continuing its voyage to Djibouti on Tuesday after being hit by a missile a day earlier near Yemen's port city of Aden, its operator MSC said.
MSC Sky II was hit by a missile about 85 miles southeast of Aden and 170 miles east-southeast of the Bab al-Mandab Strait while it was sailing from Singapore to Djibouti, the Swiss-headquartered MSC said in a statement.

Crew from attacked ship evacuated to Djibouti

A National Guard unit from Utah is being deployed to Djibouti, the largest deployment in a decade.

The French Foreign Legion is also sending a company to djibouti. But just for four months.

Pentagon official underscores defense ties with Djibouti.

The army has been helping locals care for goats in Djobouti

Fact sheet on the U.S. government school there.

Tech in Djibouti - Looks like a site primed for development.

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Posted by: K.T. at 11:22 AM

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1 Howdy, KT!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 09, 2024 11:29 AM (u73oe)

2 Called em

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 09, 2024 11:29 AM (u73oe)

3 Wonder what chyna gave newscum for kalifornia?

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2024 11:30 AM (NxC5+)

4 Seems to have a firm grip on Biden's foreign policy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:30 AM (FVME7)

5 Sharp as a tack!

RNC Research
@RNCResearch
BIDEN: "Pennsylvania, I have a message for you: send me to Congress!" 😬

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:31 AM (FVME7)

6 There we go

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 11:32 AM (fwDg9)

7 I tend to give credit where it's due and call it Pax Atomica instead. Mark my words, if/when reliable counters to nuclear weapons are developed and successfully tested there will be an orgy of violence not seen since the classical age as everyone settles multiple generations of grudges in one fell swoop.

Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 11:33 AM (PZvjL)

8 At the meeting, attendees asked the governor to "utilize his relationship with the president and other lawmakers to bring awareness to our sentiment and demands," according to the Shura Council.

Oh, I think we're fully aware of your sentiment and demands. How about this. GFY, you savages.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:34 AM (CsUN+)

9 5 Sharp as a tack!

RNC Research
@RNCResearch
BIDEN: "Pennsylvania, I have a message for you: send me to Congress!" 😬
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:31 AM (FVME7)

Feisty! Fiery !F'd in the head

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 11:34 AM (Akjoo)

10 So now they can use AI to makeup the entire grant proposal for secret operations instead of just the name.

Posted by: DaveA at March 09, 2024 11:34 AM (FhXTo)

11 If AI wrote that speech it was obviously short circuited like Joe's brain

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 11:36 AM (Akjoo)

12 I assume that both Newsom and the Panera guy are lying. Both are Democrats, after all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 11:38 AM (tkR6S)

13 An hour of shrieking has to be hard on a fragile dementia patient.
Somebody needs to be charged with elder abuse.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 11:38 AM (rWwta)

14 Perhaps Joe Biden's "Feisty" and "Firey" State of the Union will keep his party from replacing him on the presidential ballot

I just don't see it. Are they really anticipating a campaign in which he never leaves his basement?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:38 AM (CsUN+)

15 I don't care what Newsome thinks or wants, I don't believe he's ever going to be President.

That being said, I find it amusing, when people talk about the bad things being done by Chi Nah, or other places, whether they're worried about phony climate change bullshit, or whatever else, and the throwaway line at the end "they view the U.S. as a major impediment."

You know why? BECAUSE THE U.S. IS A MAJOR IMPEDIMENT!! Everyone around the world, no matter how good or bad they are, see the U.S. as a threat, because... we are!

Whatever nonsense people believe about this country being some kind of force for good in the world, you need to stop doing that. Everything gets much clearer when you do.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:38 AM (j2eHY)

16 I just don't see it. Are they really anticipating a campaign in which he never leaves his basement?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:38 AM (CsUN+)

Worked last time

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 11:39 AM (Akjoo)

17 What the hell is wrong with Utah. In celebration of International Women's Day, REPUBLICAN Lt. Governor tweeted . . .

Deidre Henderson
@DeidreHenderson
OTD in 1917, tens of thousands of Russian women gathered in Petrograd (Saint Petersburg) to protest terrible working conditions and the high price of bread. A few days later, Tsar Nicholas II abdicated his throne and Russia was in full Revolution. #InternationalWomensDay

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:39 AM (FVME7)

18 What an embarrassment.

Fuck Joe Biden.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 09, 2024 11:39 AM (fA2bf)

19 I just don't see it. Are they really anticipating a campaign in which he never leaves his basement?

I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be the first one, but at least back in '20 he could point at Covid, and there were enough self-deluders who could persuade themselves that he wasn't hopelessly compromised. Neither condition obtains now.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:39 AM (CsUN+)

20 Worked last time

See my #19.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:40 AM (CsUN+)

21 20 Worked last time

See my #19.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:40 AM (CsUN+)

They'll just try to keep us distracted with all Trump's lawsuits and probably a war or two

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 11:41 AM (Akjoo)

22 In a sane world a psychiatric nurse would have come out to calm Joe down

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 11:41 AM (rWwta)

23 An hour of shrieking has to be hard on a fragile dementia patient.
Somebody needs to be charged with elder abuse.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 11:38 AM (rWwta)

The thing about that speech, no matter what else one thinks about who is putting the words in his mouth, he's capable of letting the words come out of his mouth.

So whatever else one thinks of Biden, the sentient part of his brain is evidence he's as culpable as anyone else for the evil being perpetrated by this nation's government.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:42 AM (j2eHY)

24
The thing about that speech, no matter what else one thinks about who is putting the words in his mouth, he's capable of letting the words come out of his mouth.

Sometimes

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Akjoo)

25 Collin Rugg @CollinRugg Mar 7
NEW: Democrat voter Charles Barkley says Democrats only care about black people every 4 years & says black people who wear Trump’s mugshot are “freaking id*ots”

Voting Democrat while knowing they only care about you every 4 years makes *you* the id*ot.

Even more remarkably, Barkley said the only time he voted Republican was for John Kasich even though Barkley knew he never had a chance.

“The reason I think the Democratic Party and president Biden is losing black votes is they only care about black people every four years.”

“I voted Democratic every time just 'cause I thought it was gonna help black people and poor people.”

“If you're wearing a black person and you are wearing a Donald Trump mugshot, you are a freaking id*ot.”

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:42 AM (2yu8s)

26 “If you're wearing a black person and you are wearing a Donald Trump mugshot, you are a freaking id*ot.”
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:42 AM (2yu8s)

Someone's an idiot Charles

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 11:43 AM (Akjoo)

27 For Reforger and Burt TC -

I put up an abridged (Cliff's Notes) summation of the Curious Disappearance up to the present at #369 on the coffee thread.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (991eG)

28 What the hell is wrong with Utah. In celebration of International Women's Day, REPUBLICAN Lt. Governor tweeted . . .

Deidre Henderson
@DeidreHenderson
OTD in 1917, tens of thousands of Russian women gathered in Petrograd (Saint Petersburg) to protest terrible working conditions and the high price of bread. A few days later, Tsar Nicholas II abdicated his throne and Russia was in full Revolution. #InternationalWomensDay
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:39 AM (FVME7)

Salt Lick City is a nest of vipers, just like every other "big" city in America. I would assume Republicans there are no different than, say, the Mitt Romney and Lindsey Grahams of the world.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (j2eHY)

29 Good morning! The potato is in ATL today. Yay.

Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (ZdaMQ)

30 >>> Tech in Djibouti - Looks like a site primed for development.

Probably good for the satellite phones everyone has overthere.
Maybe charging up the Tesla overnight before heading to the next waypoint. Like the old west missions.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (cOq4q)

31 For Reforger and Burt TC -

I put up an abridged (Cliff's Notes) summation of the Curious Disappearance up to the present at #369 on the coffee thread.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (991eG)

Thanks, I saw the recap. I appreciate it. I wasn't sure the context of it all, and now that I do, I wonder, what do you think about the accuracy/reliability of cadaver dogs?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:45 AM (j2eHY)

32 “I voted Democratic every time just 'cause I thought it was gonna help black people and poor people.”

“If you're wearing a black person and you are wearing a Donald Trump mugshot, you are a freaking id*ot.”
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:42 AM (2yu8s)

The only thing that helped Charles Barkley is the fact that he grew up to be really tall, and could do tricks with a ball.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 11:46 AM (tkR6S)

33 So Charles Barkley just very publicly demonstrated how and why the donkey plantation does what it does?

Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 11:46 AM (PZvjL)

34 Sen. Ron Johnson: If Everything’s So Great, Why Is Biden So Angry?

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"Shut up!" MSNSDAP explained.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:47 AM (FVME7)

35 Sorry that I had to delete the YouTube video embeds. When I saved the post, it went back to the Tech Thread, wiping out the two later threads.

Remember the Lost in Space incident a few months ago? It was due to YouTube formatting.

Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 11:48 AM (rrtZS)

36 Forget it, Jake. It's California.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 09, 2024 11:48 AM (dg+HA)

37 “The reason I think the Democratic Party and president Biden is losing black votes is they only care about black people every four years.”

“I voted Democratic every time just 'cause I thought it was gonna help black people and poor people.”

“If you're wearing a black person and you are wearing a Donald Trump mugshot, you are a freaking id*ot.”
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:42 AM (2yu8s)

No, Charles, the Democrat party doesn't care about you every four years.

They never care about you. They cull your votes, because they can. Either because those "idiots" you so affectionately call them, think Democrats care, or they're not voting at all, but the Democrat party is casting ballots for them anyway.

You're being used. Which makes you... wait for it...... the idiot.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:49 AM (j2eHY)

38 See my vest! See my vest!
It's made from real black person chest!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:49 AM (FVME7)

39
Remember the Lost in Space incident a few months ago? It was due to YouTube formatting.
Posted by: KT

If only Google wasn't evil.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 11:50 AM (B8kct)

40 Irony, thy name is third parties.

1. No Labels group announces it plans to put forward a bipartisan 2024 presidential ticket, with one Republican and one Democrat. So much for the No Labels name.

2. Third Way group urges No Labels NOT to run a slate for 2024, and wants only the two major party candidates on the ticket. So much for the Third Way.

what a bunch of dimwits.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 11:50 AM (991eG)

41 >>> Sen. Ron Johnson: If Everything’s So Great, Why Is Biden So Angry?
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"Shut up!" MSNSDAP explained.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

He is reverting to his second childhood.
Not happy the first time, won't be happy this time.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 11:51 AM (cOq4q)

42 on the ticket >> on thee ballot

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 11:51 AM (991eG)

43 Parents Outraged After Investigation Ordered by City of Uvalde Exonerates Uvalde Police

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They did nothing wrong! Hell, they did nothing at all!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (FVME7)

44 Don't forget Newson has deep ties to USA based China gangsters and the Chinese Triads, who are really behind the Fentanyl attack on America by China. Ditto Glock Switches and marijuana cultivation, and real estate deals and money laundering. Peter Schweitzer has the goods in his new book. Newsom would be the successor to the Biden China dynasty in DC if elected president.

Posted by: Dantes at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (z63lP)

45 The only thing that helped Charles Barkley is the fact that he grew up to be really tall, and could do tricks with a ball.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 11:46 AM (tkR6S)

I don't pay any attention to sportsball, and have never paid attention to professional basket ball.

Seems to me though, Barkley remains "famous" because of his post-playing career. If I recall, he was a minor star during his career, never won a championship, and because he says things now, people remember him.

If he didn't continue to say things, he'd have been forgotten, along with 99% of the rest of the people who played sportsball for a living.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (j2eHY)

46 No Labels group announces it plans to put forward a bipartisan 2024 presidential ticket, with one Republican and one Democrat. So much for the No Labels name.

Potential "Republican" candidates include Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, and Nikki Haley. No word on Adam Kinzinger. Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (CsUN+)

47 And Biden also said that in Congress he would see that Roe vs. Wade would become the law of the land again.

WTF??

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (2yu8s)

48 “I voted Democratic every time just 'cause I thought it was gonna help black people and poor people.”

“If you're wearing a black person and you are wearing a Donald Trump mugshot, you are a freaking id*ot.”

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The only president that's helped black people and poor people has been President Trump. Multiple statistics proved this out.

It's a shame Barkley is such a moron (not the good kind).

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (mupln)

49 2. Third Way group urges No Labels NOT to run a slate for 2024, and wants only the two major party candidates on the ticket. So much for the Third Way.

what a bunch of dimwits.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 11:50 AM (991eG)

Didn't Mussolini's Fascists tout themselves as the Third Way?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (tkR6S)

50 37 You're being used. Which makes you... wait for it...... the idiot.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:49 AM (j2eHY)

He's not just an idiot, but a useful one since he so eagerly chastises and threatens other black people for even thinking about supporting a non-Democrat.

Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 11:53 AM (PZvjL)

51 Remember the Lost in Space incident a few months ago? It was due to YouTube formatting.
Posted by: KT

Lost in Cyberspace.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:53 AM (FVME7)

52 So whatever else one thinks of Biden, the sentient part of his brain is evidence he's as culpable as anyone else for the evil being perpetrated by this nation's government.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 09

Brings to mind the guy who only beats his wife when he's drunk. But he's drunk all the time.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 11:53 AM (rWwta)

53 Third Way group urges No Labels NOT to run a slate for 2024, and wants only the two major party candidates on the ticket.

Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 09, 2024 11:54 AM (CsUN+)

54 Admit it! You just like saying the word 'Djibouti'!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2024 11:55 AM (IG4Id)

55 He is reverting to his second childhood.
Not happy the first time, won't be happy this time.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 11:51 AM (cOq4q)

Truly, the two things he's capable of are 1. Reading a teleprompter, and B. Feigning anger/outrage.

He's built a career on those two things, and with the right drug combo, can be summoned to do them still.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:55 AM (j2eHY)

56 House Republicans Defend Use of Earmarks as Congress Passes Spending Bills With $13 Billion of Pork

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Of course they do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:56 AM (FVME7)

57 But don't we all like to Sheik Djibouti??

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:57 AM (2yu8s)

58 Has there ever been a SOTU by ta Republican that the idiotic and predictable media did not label ad angry and divisive?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 11:58 AM (rWwta)

59 I am happy with the Newsom Crime Syndicate's new minimum wage law.

I look forward to hiring lots of ilegales at lower than minimum wage to bake bread at my Arby's stores so I can toss the inedible loaves to the homeless as I drive around L.A., point and laugh with my hard on in the wind.

Hahahahaha!

Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at March 09, 2024 11:58 AM (R/m4+)

60 Warner Bros. Discovery Chief DEI Officer Endorses Discriminating Against Employees Who Disagree With DEI Ideology: “They’ll Leave Themselves, Which Is Great”

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They'll de-export themselves the hell outta here!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:58 AM (FVME7)

61 He's not just an idiot, but a useful one since he so eagerly chastises and threatens other black people for even thinking about supporting a non-Democrat.
Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 11:53 AM (PZvjL)

As annoying as these people are, it's rather funny, the Elites are pulling out they're few remaining hairs, and saying "who do we have, who can we send out there to save our democracy?? I know! Let's get Barles Charkley and Jon "Don't Call Me Jimmy" Steward!"

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 11:59 AM (j2eHY)

62 weft cut-loop at March 09, 2024 11:55 AM

Yes, Djibouti is a fun word.

I did not learn about Djibouti in elementary school, either.

Have you ever tried saying "Nicaragua" phonetically in English?

Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 11:59 AM (rrtZS)

63 We are saved!

Arizona Gov. Hobbs Appoints Nation’s First "Chief Heat Officer"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7)

64 I'm surprised Joe didn't turn his head around to the back and vomit green pea soup.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 12:00 PM (rWwta)

65 Maybe if they can fraud Sundowner in again he will become a Artificial Intelligence

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:00 PM (fwDg9)

66 So Charles Barkley just very publicly demonstrated how and why the donkey plantation does what it does?
Posted by: CppThis

You're being used. Which makes you... wait for it...... the idiot.
Posted by: BurtTC

Charles Barkley is a lot wealthier than you or I. I doubt he is actually an idiot. But he (and a lot of other black folks) continue to do what they do because it's a cultural habit. Face it, most politicians don't give a damn about black people, and generally, don't give a damn about anybody. They are up there (in Washington) to do FOR THEMSELVES.
It's a sham, a travesty, a mockery. A travishamockery. The government doesn't work like some Civics class discussion. Most of these people are shitweasels. All of them.
The correct response from Barkley should be "I'm mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore.!"
If more people adopted that attitude, and started electing people that were actually AFRAID of their constituents, something MIGHT change.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:00 PM (tjZg/)

67 29 Good morning! The potato is in ATL today. Yay.

Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (ZdaMQ)
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After all the drugs, is it baked or fried?

Posted by: Ciampino - The FJB line at March 09, 2024 12:00 PM (qfLjt)

68 Have you ever tried saying "Nicaragua" phonetically in English?
Posted by: KT

"Nigh Cara Gooah"?

It's no match for Lake Titicaca.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2024 12:02 PM (IG4Id)

69
Back when I was in elementary school, Djibouti was French Somalialand.

Then he became a Sheik.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 09, 2024 12:02 PM (xG4kz)

70 But don't we all like to Sheik Djibouti??
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 11:57 AM (2yu8s)

Speaking of, I watched the "highlights" of the boxing "match" between Anthony Joshua and Francis "Lighten Up" Ngannou.

All the towel heads in the stands, I'm assuming boxing is going to no longer controlled by black and white American mobsters, and is now controlled by Arab mobsters.

Ngannou stood there and let Joshua slam his fist into his face... almost as if he threw the fight.

But that's not possible... is it? A boxing "match" being fixed???

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:03 PM (j2eHY)

71 Have you ever tried saying "Nicaragua" phonetically in English?
Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 11:59 AM (rrtZS)[/i

NICK-uh-rayg-wa.

They make good PUP-uh-saws and TAKE-owes there

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 12:03 PM (D7oie)

72 Clash of the Titans.

Eddie Van Halen's son Wolfgang hits back at David Lee Roth after singer trashes him in wild rant

https://tinyurl.com/7uycbz6r

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:04 PM (FVME7)

73 what do you think about the accuracy/reliability of cadaver dogs?
Posted by: BurtTC

**********

A lot of factors come into play, such as length of time the remains have been there, amount of remains, prevailing soil and climate factors, etc.

But, in this case, four separate dogs working independently (dogs and handlers both blinded to any results from the other three teams), each dog/handler team on the property alone, ALL triggered on a piece of ground about one meter by three meters in size. That rendders it statistically improbable that all four were false positives, and the search team estimated upward of 95% likelihood that there are human remains in that location. The dogs are not distracted by animal remains. There are somee 600 substances that are known to emanate from human corpses, and it is not known which one or combination of more than one substance it is that the dogs recognize. (And the dogs aren't telling,). In addition, the layout of the four responses delineates a linear arrangement suggestive of a trench or linear grave.

As I said, in my mind it is a compelling set of data.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:05 PM (991eG)

74 How in the hell is Utah's NG being sent to DaBooty? How do they justify this deployment?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 09, 2024 12:05 PM (17s+e)

75 Ha! I wondered if the tin foil link would what it was.

Posted by: Emmie, rock'n'roll widow at March 09, 2024 12:06 PM (Sf2cq)

76 Charles Barkley is a lot wealthier than you or I. I doubt he is actually an idiot.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:00 PM (tjZg/)

You're right about one thing, he's a lot wealthier than I.

Rich people can be idiots too, and if you are a slave to the masters who pay you, telling flat out lies that hurt the people you pretend to care about, you're an idiot.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:06 PM (j2eHY)

77 Parents Outraged After Investigation Ordered by City of Uvalde Exonerates Uvalde Police

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They did nothing wrong! Hell, they did nothing at all!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

But people will probably lay down and accept it. Instead of actually doing something about it, like marching down to attend the investigation committee, and shoot all of them. That's just hypothetical, of course.
What will the police do then? Well, they will act to prevent losing their phoney-baloney jobs and pensions.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:06 PM (tjZg/)

78 So, the Democrats' choice is between "fiery and feisty" and "slithering and oleaginous"? Tough call.

Posted by: Paco at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (njExo)

79 It's a human failing of the modern right that Charles Barkley is now 'their' asshoe and not 'our' asshoe. Years ago right here on this page, we used to speculate about how soon he'd put an R after his name. Used to spout off, sometimes halfway cleverly, about more or less conservative themes. This side of the aisle just didn't have a space for him, so he wandered back. Kind of a shame, but, loose cannon anyway, so at least you don't have his agreements to worry about. Maybe he's safer where he is.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (zdLoL)

80 Back when I was in elementary school, Djibouti was French Somalialand.

Then he became a Sheik.

*********

Sheik, Sheik, Sheik

Sheik, Sheik, Sheik

Sheik Djibouti

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (991eG)

81 Couple of years ago I learned that eggs are sized by box weight, not individually. A dozen large eggs need to weigh x grams total.
Ever since, I can't help noticing that the egg in the front right corner of the box is either substantially larger or smaller than the others.
Drives me just a little buggy, thought I could share that.

Posted by: From about that Time at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (4780s)

82 Oh, this'll work out well.

California Convicts Can Now Petition to Have Convictions Invalidated or Sentences Reduced Based on "Racial Disparities"

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Apparently, the problem is not enough thug hugs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:08 PM (FVME7)

83
Why did Netanyahu agree to meet with Newsom?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:08 PM (lCaJd)

84 As I said, in my mind it is a compelling set of data.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:05 PM (991eG)

Thanks for the explanation. I've heard of cases where dogs were used to get results that were wanted, and people have been convicted based on cadaver dogs getting "hits" on things.

Sounds like this was well executed (no pun intended... ok, maybe a little intended), and the evidence is quite compelling.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:09 PM (j2eHY)

85 Read some more Reviews of that supposed SotU but seems to be a campaign speech and wanting to see more of it

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:09 PM (fwDg9)

86 At the risk of asking a dumb question, if corpse dogs think there's something at a specific location and the owner of that property is cooperative but the county sheriff is dragging its heels, what prevents the property owner from digging a hole themselves along with House Muldoon agents and maybe some local media witnesses?

Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 12:09 PM (PZvjL)

87 Rich people can be idiots too, and if you are a slave to the masters who pay you, telling flat out lies that hurt the people you pretend to care about, you're an idiot.
Posted by: BurtTC

He is, indeed, a well paid and well trained mouthpiece for the people who pay him. On the plantation. He should be so proud.
As are all the TV network anchors and talking heads, etc. By one measure, they are "useful" idiots, by another measure that are "just following orders".

Where is there a place that actually tries to tell the truth? Well, pretty much nowhere.
We are on our own.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:10 PM (tjZg/)

88 Don't forget Newson has deep ties to USA based China gangsters and the Chinese Triads, who are really behind the Fentanyl attack on America by China.
Posted by: Dantes at March 09, 2024 11:52 AM (z63lP)

I remember when Chang Kang Chang or whatever his name was had the run in with the Chinese Tongs.

Kicked their asses he did.

https://tinyurl.com/nrmytbmh

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 09, 2024 12:11 PM (R/m4+)

89 Whoa! Whoa! Settle down, Big Guy!

Biden: Laken Riley's Alleged Killer "Technically Not Supposed to Be Here"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:11 PM (FVME7)

90 It's a human failing of the modern right that Charles Barkley is now 'their' asshoe and not 'our' asshoe. Years ago right here on this page, we used to speculate about how soon he'd put an R after his name. Used to spout off, sometimes halfway cleverly, about more or less conservative themes. This side of the aisle just didn't have a space for him, so he wandered back. Kind of a shame, but, loose cannon anyway, so at least you don't have his agreements to worry about. Maybe he's safer where he is.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (zdLoL)

So you're saying their whore isn't "our" whore, and that's a bad thing?

Sorry, not seeing it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:11 PM (j2eHY)

91 Newsom's greasy enough to float an aircraft carrier...maybe a whole fleet.

Posted by: BignJames at March 09, 2024 12:12 PM (AwYPR)

92 Djibouti is home to both American and Chinese military bases. Practically right next to each other too.

Interestingly, China has several warships in the region but hasn't gotten involved in the maritime shipping war with the Houthi's even though they themselves depend on the trade routes through the Red Sea as much as anyone.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 09, 2024 12:13 PM (Q4IgG)

93
California Convicts Can Now Petition to Have Convictions Invalidated or Sentences Reduced Based on "Racial Disparities"

*sings*
"I come from the land of Dindu Nuffins ..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 09, 2024 12:13 PM (xG4kz)

94 Arizona Gov. Hobbs Appoints Nation’s First "Chief Heat Officer"

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Why? Is she trying to determine if she is ovulating?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:13 PM (991eG)

95 Lean, mean, fighting machine!

Air Force Memo Exposes Racial Quota System

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:14 PM (FVME7)

96 This side of the aisle just didn't have a space for him, so he wandered back. Kind of a shame, but, loose cannon anyway, so at least you don't have his agreements to worry about. Maybe he's safer where he is.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (zdLoL)

If he wants his ass kissed, he's in the right place.

Posted by: BignJames at March 09, 2024 12:14 PM (AwYPR)

97 Where is there a place that actually tries to tell the truth? Well, pretty much nowhere.
We are on our own.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:10 PM (tjZg/)

I watched the segment Tucker did Thursday night, where he had Alex Jones on. I'm not sure if it was live at the time it was uploaded or if it was an old interview...

Regardless, Alex gave a very touching description of how and why he strives to always tell the truth now, that it was a failing of his that he has worked hard to correct.

Tucker emphasizes truth as vitally important to whatever pathway is going to lead us out of our current darkness, and I think they're both dead on right about it.

Be honest. Be truthful. And as you clearly say, ALL of those people who broadcast for a living, coming from the other side, they are liars, each and every one of them, all the time.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:15 PM (j2eHY)

98 67 29 Good morning! The potato is in ATL today. Yay.

Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 11:44 AM (ZdaMQ)
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After all the drugs, is it baked or fried?
Posted by: Ciampino -

Good question. And great Segway into me making something to eat. I am starving.

Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 12:15 PM (ZdaMQ)

99 NICK-uh-rayg-wa.

They make good PUP-uh-saws and TAKE-owes there
Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 12:03 PM (D7oie)

I never saw tacos there. They do have pupusas, made by Salvadoreans, and they are good. Fried chicken is popular, and rice and beans is a staple. Closest I saw to a characteristic national dish is baho. Pork or beef steamed with plantains and yuca in a pot lined with banana leaves. Yummy, but not fast food in any way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 12:15 PM (tkR6S)

100
They could have cleaned up the filthy streets any time they wanted to clean them up.

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But how long would they stay clean? Sure, you can make the streets of SF sparkle if you have the will and some discretionary funds, but you can't do it every single day.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:16 PM (lCaJd)

101
Biden: Lincoln Riley's logs were the bomb for kids to play with! Why, my sainted Beau loved them above all his other toys! True story!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 09, 2024 12:16 PM (xG4kz)

102 Netanyahu maybe hoping to talk sense into at least 1 Democrat?

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:16 PM (fwDg9)

103 Charles Barkley, stupid is.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 12:17 PM (WEQkv)

104 Swear Sundowner would have wanted to send in humanity aid to Japan's citizens in 1944

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:18 PM (fwDg9)

105 >>"That said, China's autocratic regime is not fundamentally different from Vladimir Putin in Russia or Hamas in Palestine. All want more power, all trample on human rights - often with indiscriminate violence - and all see the United States as the major impediment."

Funny how the U.S. government also wants more power and also tramples on human rights -- often with indiscriminate violence -- and also sees the American people of the United States as the major impediment.

I wonder if the author can even see this.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2024 12:18 PM (/QIWP)

106 At the risk of asking a dumb question, if corpse dogs think there's something at a specific location and the owner of that property is cooperative but the county sheriff is dragging its heels, what prevents the property owner from digging a hole themselves along with House Muldoon agents and maybe some local media witnesses?
Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 12:09 PM (PZvjL)

I don't think it's a dumb question, I suspect (again with the puns!) we're all thinking it. Problem is, what happens if you find something, and those government entities who think it's THEIR job to do these things, and now you've pissed them off for showing them up... what then.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:18 PM (j2eHY)

107 Netanyahu maybe hoping to talk sense into at least 1 Democrat?
Posted by: Skip

I doubt it.
I do think Netanyahu would be stupid *not* to speak to someone who has presidential aspirations (don't insult someone who might sometime be in a position to do you more damage than you can imagine).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 12:19 PM (B8kct)

108 90 So you're saying their whore isn't "our" whore, and that's a bad thing?

Sorry, not seeing it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:11 PM (j2eHY)

A good argument could be made that neocon-era Republicans missed some golden opportunities to make inroads with black voters, who are culturally pretty trad, but were so obsessed with stonks and wars that they didn't have time for much else.

Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 12:19 PM (PZvjL)

109 GENDER STRENGTHENING

Kegels?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 09, 2024 12:20 PM (cVxTx)

110
I'm at a loss here -- what's with this "House Muldoon" neologism?

Posted by: The Guy Who's Always at a Loss For Words at March 09, 2024 12:21 PM (xG4kz)

111 I don't think it's a dumb question, I suspect (again with the puns!) we're all thinking it. Problem is, what happens if you find something, and those government entities who think it's THEIR job to do these things, and now you've pissed them off for showing them up... what then.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:18 PM (j2eHY)

"Unauthorized persons disturbing a crime scene." Particularly if the perp is/was somehow "connected".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 12:22 PM (tkR6S)

112 What does me mean by "wearing a black person?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 09, 2024 12:22 PM (63Dwl)

113 But how long would they stay clean? Sure, you can make the streets of SF sparkle if you have the will and some discretionary funds, but you can't do it every single day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:16 PM (lCaJd)

That was a good "gotcha" story, and everything that shows Newsome to be the hypocritical bastard he is, I'm all for it, but yeah.

San Francisco is a third world shithole, and there's not much point in trying to clean up a third world shithole, as long as it's going to remain a third world shithole.

Which it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:22 PM (j2eHY)

114 102 Netanyahu maybe hoping to talk sense into at least 1 Democrat?

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 1
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Talking to him is a courtesy. Who knows besides Kalorama who will be the next Democrat candidate for president.
Mossad?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 12:22 PM (WEQkv)

115
Newsom's greasy enough to float an aircraft carrier...maybe a whole fleet.
Posted by: BignJames

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I'm trying to figure exactly how they're going to get him into the Oval Office asap. Biden's "fiery" SOTU blew the Dems' hopes of getting him out before November, so Newsom won't be on the ballot. It's too late to boot Kamala. Maybe the plan is to remove Biden within a decent interval (assuming he gets re-elected) and make Newsom veep to President Kamala? Or somehow maneuver Kamala into staying veep and let Newsom play through?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:22 PM (lCaJd)

116 You can have Pax Americana or you can have democrats.

Did I capture the main point?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 09, 2024 12:23 PM (roH4R)

117 Closest I saw to a characteristic national dish is baho. Pork or beef steamed with plantains and yuca in a pot lined with banana leaves. Yummy, but not fast food in any way.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 12:15 PM (tkR6S)

I think there is something similar to that, rice and whatnot steamed in banana leaves, they call it a tamale I think. I had a discussion with a young lady about this, since to me a tamale is corn meal masa wrapped in a corn husk, and what she was discussing I knew as some sort of "sandwich" from Asian markets that I never learned the name of.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 12:23 PM (D7oie)

118 At the risk of asking a dumb question, if corpse dogs think there's something at a specific location and the owner of that property is cooperative but the county sheriff is dragging its heels, what prevents the property owner from digging a hole themselves along with House Muldoon agents and maybe some local media witnesses?
Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 12:09 PM (PZvjL)

I don't think it's a dumb question, I suspect (again with the puns!) we're all thinking it. Problem is, what happens if you find something, and those government entities who think it's THEIR job to do these things, and now you've pissed them off for showing them up... what then.
Posted by: BurtTC

And you're giving the defense a number of arguments. 1) You can't trust the evidence; it wasn't collected by the experts! 2) This is naked.vigilante-ism! 3) How do we know they didn't plant evidence? Etc. ad infinitum.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:23 PM (FVME7)

119 what prevents the property owner from digging a hole themselves along with House Muldoon agents and maybe some local media witnesses?
Posted by: CppThis

*******

That's been debated here, previously. We are taking the approach that the authorities get the first bite at the forensic apple, on the theory that non-official meddling may taint the admissibility of any findings in case of an eventual criminal trial. Also question of "tampering with a crime scene" or "tampering with a human corpse" charges. But if law enforcement declines to take that first bite in timely fashion, in my view they abdicate their control of the site and I will have no qualms about arranging my own excavation. It has been four and a half months, and the clock is running out.

If we dig, it halts at the first identification of anything recognizable as human remains or clothing and gets kicked to LE.

There is no local news media to speak of. Remote area.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:24 PM (991eG)

120 >>>A good argument could be made that neocon-era Republicans missed some golden opportunities to make inroads with black voters, who are culturally pretty trad, but were so obsessed with stonks and wars that they didn't have time for much else.

Posted by: CppThis
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That's as polite and understated statement that can be made.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 12:25 PM (WEQkv)

121 I would put Gruesome chances in 2024 ahead of Sundowner

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:25 PM (fwDg9)

122 I must've been on vacation or something when Republicans told Charles Barkley, "we have no room for you."

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 09, 2024 12:25 PM (mupln)

123 You can have Pax Americana or you can have democrats.

Did I capture the main point?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Mark Lewis: The Democratic Party Needs Societal Chaos

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Well, today is their lucky day!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:25 PM (FVME7)

124 A good argument could be made that neocon-era Republicans missed some golden opportunities to make inroads with black voters, who are culturally pretty trad, but were so obsessed with stonks and wars that they didn't have time for much else.
Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 12:19 PM (PZvjL)

Absolutely. The never ending shame a LOT of us must carry, is our willingness to let the neocons dominate the party with which we were affiliated.

There were lots of things they did, not least of which was ignoring LARGE segments of the poopulation who shared values with most of its voters, because those neocons were phonies when it came to those issues and those values.

We dropped the ball, we gave them the benefit of the doubt, when they didn't deserve it. And it cost us. It cost us all, great amounts of wealth, and great amounts of moral capital.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:25 PM (j2eHY)

125 119 That's been debated here, previously. We are taking the approach that the authorities get the first bite at the forensic apple, on the theory that non-official meddling may taint the admissibility of any findings in case of an eventual criminal trial.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:24 PM (991eG)

All fair points--I guess everyone involved's just got to wait a while to see what happens next.

Posted by: CppThis at March 09, 2024 12:26 PM (PZvjL)

126 But how long would they stay clean? Sure, you can make the streets of SF sparkle if you have the will and some discretionary funds, but you can't do it every single day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:16 PM (lCaJd)

supposedly there is a drive to push the homeless out of the public areas and make homeless encampments illegal in San Francisco. One of the problems there is that the problem is imposed from above, the courts and the state insist there is no cure that isn't unconstitutional

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 12:27 PM (D7oie)

127 Forty-four minutes of a very pretty guitar-vibraphone duo:
youtube.com/watch?v=C4d2JTLmT3c

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 12:27 PM (MvF+J)

128 In the aftermath of the attack on Israel, many American Jews are arming themselves. But in California, not only will Jews and worshippers in other faiths be banned from protecting themselves in their houses of worship, but would-be killers will know that potential victims in "sensitive" areas will be unarmed.

Self defense is a tenet of my religion.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 09, 2024 12:28 PM (sJSOG)

129 supposedly there is a drive to push the homeless out of the public areas and make homeless encampments illegal in San Francisco. One of the problems there is that the problem is imposed from above, the courts and the state insist there is no cure that isn't unconstitutional
Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 12:27 PM (D7oie)

Isn't there an uninhabited island out in the bay that could be given to the homeless? Alca-something?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2024 12:29 PM (tkR6S)

130 Geraldo Rivera
@GeraldoRivera
Assuming he doesn’t lose a step in the next 8 months, last night President Biden re-established himself as a credible alternative to former President Trump. Sharp, feisty, confident, competent, watch for the polls to move Biden’s way.
He ain’t dead yet.

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BIDEN /HARRIS 2024: HE AIN'T DEAD YET!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:30 PM (FVME7)

131 Fine rain out thar.

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2024 12:30 PM (T4tVD)

132 If we dig, it halts at the first identification of anything recognizable as human remains or clothing and gets kicked to LE.

There is no local news media to speak of. Remote area.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:24 PM (991eG)

Yes, then obviously lots of cameras from all angles, covering the entire operation.

As noted above, don't give a defense team any opportunity to call into question what is discovered, and... don't give the "authorities" any ammunition to use against you.

But I'm in total agreement there, with the concept that government must be accounted for, but when they abdicate their responsibilities... well, we're seeing that elsewhere these days too.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:31 PM (q9nKV)

133 130 He bringeth the feist.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 12:31 PM (MvF+J)

134 62
...
Have you ever tried saying "Nicaragua" phonetically in English?
Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 11:59 AM (rrtZS)

Jalapeño is another. /jäläpēnō/ is how my wife's cousin pronounced it. I was, "What was that!? What kind of peeno?" (while laughing)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 09, 2024 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

135 130 Geraldo Rivera
@GeraldoRivera
Assuming he doesn’t lose a step in the next 8 months, last night President Biden re-established himself as a credible alternative to former President Trump. Sharp, feisty, confident, competent, watch for the polls to move Biden’s way.
He ain’t dead yet.

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BIDEN /HARRIS 2024: HE AIN'T DEAD YET!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:30 PM (FVME7)

I'd like a second opinion on that

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 12:32 PM (Akjoo)

136
the courts and the state insist there is no cure that isn't unconstitutional
Posted by: Kindltot

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I think there's a third negative in there that was meant to be positive -- the states and the courts won't let it happen, is what you mean?

Yes, San Franciscans don't like the results of their voting and London Breed is taking the heat for it -- same as in other blue cities where mayors are trying actions that are characteristically Republican except not when we do it, it's the Republicans' fault we're here! Does anyone think it's going to create lasting, significant change?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:32 PM (lCaJd)

137 I must've been on vacation or something when Republicans told Charles Barkley, "we have no room for you."
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 09, 2024 12:25 PM (mupln)

We all were, apparently.

But then, one would think if one's ideas are right, there's no need to cast invitations to celebrities nitwits to join the cause.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:32 PM (q9nKV)

138
@GeraldoRivera
Assuming he doesn’t lose a step in the next 8 months, last night President Biden re-established himself as a credible alternative to former President Trump. Sharp, feisty, confident, competent, watch for the polls to move Biden’s way.
He ain’t dead yet.

==============

Cool. I can't wait to see him obliterate Trump in debate.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:34 PM (lCaJd)

139 Screaming old guy to get off his lawn is Sharp, Feistyand confident
Yeah sure

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:34 PM (fwDg9)

140 And thanks, folks, for all the prayers this morning. Gonna be a rough go as I'm the one that has to handle his affairs as well, and I'm in Kali, so I have to follow the law vewwy, vewwy cawefully.
Gotta run. Another busy day.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

141 Cool. I can't wait to see him obliterate Trump in debate.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:34 PM (lCaJd)

No doubt Joe would be pumped full of drugs and have all the questions and answers ahead of time with a hidden earpiece

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (Akjoo)

142 Gareldo Ravira, deluded or devious?

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (NxC5+)

143 Adderall-fueled Dark Feist.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (MvF+J)

144 BIDEN /HARRIS 2024: HE AIN'T DEAD YET!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:30 PM (FVME7)

I stole that an replied it to his xweet.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (sJSOG)

145 Geraldo Rivera
@GeraldoRivera
Assuming he doesn’t lose a step in the next 8 months, last night President Biden re-established himself as a credible alternative to former President Trump. Sharp, feisty, confident, competent, watch for the polls to move Biden’s way.
He ain’t dead yet.

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BIDEN /HARRIS 2024: HE AIN'T DEAD YET!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 12:30 PM (FVME7)

I agree with the consensus around these parts, and elsewhere.

Good, go to war with your Alzheimer's patient as your titular leader. You go with that.

Vivek was on Crowder the night of the speech, and he did caution Trump's camp, don't get too focused on fighting Biden as if he's the certain nominee, because they CAN and might pull a bait and switch, and catch the campaign flatfooted, if they make it all about Biden.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (q9nKV)

146 141 Cool. I can't wait to see him obliterate Trump in debate.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:34 PM (lCaJd)

No doubt Joe would be pumped full of drugs and have all the questions and answers ahead of time with a hidden earpiece

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (Akjoo)

Maybe that rectal cheating device used in chess competitions?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

147 Bonta said his office is reviewing that letter.

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!

Oh stop it! You're killing me here!!!!

*wipes tear from eye*

Posted by: Diogenes at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (W/lyH)

148 121
' I would put Gruesome chances in 2024 ahead of Sundowner'

I'd put a fire hydrant's chances ahead of Biden's.

What if the left is intentionally making FJB so unappealing that any democrat replacement looks better by comparison?
Not only unappealing but unappealing in ways that NPCs also associate with Trump (too old, mean, loud mouthed.)

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (roH4R)

149 Maybe that rectal cheating device used in chess competitions?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 09, 2024 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

LOL... I was just thinking about that

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 12:37 PM (Akjoo)

150 Sheik, Sheik, Sheik
Sheik, Sheik, Sheik
Sheik Djibouti
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (991eG)

Abdul and the Gang!

Posted by: Boswell at March 09, 2024 12:37 PM (K+UlC)

151 There are Search and Rescue groups and dog handler organizations that certify cadaver dogs. The official label is Human Remains Detection Dogs (HRDD) and a subspecialty category of Archeologic Human Remains Detection Dogs (AHRDD), who are trained to detect Long-term cadavers/remains. The four dogs in our case were all AHRDDs, coordinated by Colorado Search and Rescue.

There's more to it than just taking your Labradoodle for a walk and having him lift a leg.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:38 PM (991eG)

152 What would happen if Biden's handlers got him to give a happy speech in which he treated people who differently than he does with grace and respect?
I don't think he could do it because grace and respect are not within him

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 12:40 PM (rWwta)

153 56 House Republicans Defend Use of Earmarks as Congress Passes Spending Bills With $13 Billion of Pork

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Of course they do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 09, 2024 11:56 AM (FVME7)
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Do you know the Bill #? I want to see how the votes went.

Posted by: Ciampino - The FJB line at March 09, 2024 12:41 PM (qfLjt)

154 Sheik, Sheik, Sheik
Sheik, Sheik, Sheik
Sheik Djibouti
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 12:07 PM (991eG)

Is sheik pronounced Sheek or Shake ?

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2024 12:41 PM (T4tVD)

155 >>>> But then, one would think if one's ideas are right, there's no need to cast invitations to celebrities nitwits to join the cause.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:32 PM (q9nKV)
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Rush, accepted him as a fellow traveler and gave him accolades for some accurate counter culture observation. Continued to give Barkley entre until stupid over ruled acceptance.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 12:41 PM (WEQkv)

156 The media has never called a Republican feisty.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 12:41 PM (rWwta)

157 156 Pouncy.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 12:42 PM (MvF+J)

158 Cool. I can't wait to see him obliterate Trump in debate.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:34 PM (lCaJd)

The one thing about which I am absolutely certain, as long as Trump remains the R nominee, no matter who the Dems put up, there will be no debates.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:43 PM (q9nKV)

159 Be honest. Be truthful. And as you clearly say, ALL of those people who broadcast for a living, coming from the other side, they are liars, each and every one of them, all the time.
Posted by: BurtTC

I have seen that. It was a repeat (I think) from a previous broadcast. Alex Jones is a weird guy, but I do watch him (on InfoWars) and appreciate that he is TRYING to tell the truth. As is, sometimes, Tucker Carlson. At least trying to question the accepted narrative, which is generally false.
But these guys are pretty much out of the mainstream, and people generally dismiss Alex Jones as a kook. He is not, but sometimes it gets hard to watch him, as his reporting can be very disturbing. He actually has gone down to the border in Texas, and it is really bad. Really bad. The major networks will not touch that, because the "truth" would make most of the country outraged.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:44 PM (tjZg/)

160 Gareldo Ravira, deluded or devious?
Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (NxC5+)

He's a whore. Like the rest of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:45 PM (q9nKV)

161 146 141 Cool. I can't wait to see him obliterate Trump in debate.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 09, 2024 12:34 PM (lCaJd)

No doubt Joe would be pumped full of drugs and have all the questions and answers ahead of time with a hidden earpiece
Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (Akjoo)

Maybe that rectal cheating device used in chess competitions?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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They could have a stand in at the podium and lose. They can't think on their feet. If they can't control a (any) situation they lose. And Trump thinks on his feet and is out of control.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 12:46 PM (WEQkv)

162 Rush, accepted him as a fellow traveler and gave him accolades for some accurate counter culture observation. Continued to give Barkley entre until stupid over ruled acceptance.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 12:41 PM (WEQkv)

Rush of course, was human, and I think one of his less admirable characteristics was the extent to which he loved to rub shoulders with celebrities, and especially, athletes.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:46 PM (q9nKV)

163 I think I officially despise anyone who ever call corrupt and evil Joe decent, kind or honorable.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 12:48 PM (rWwta)

164 Gareldo Ravira, deluded or devious?
Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2024 12:35 PM (NxC5+)

He's a whore. Like the rest of them.
Posted by: BurtTC

He's an asshole. He was on Trump's "Celebrity Apprentice" years ago (2008?) and by the end of the season, most of the other contestants really despised Geraldo. To know him is to loathe him. It was also funny just how much some of the other contestants really wanted Geraldo to fail by the end.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:48 PM (tjZg/)

165 But these guys are pretty much out of the mainstream, and people generally dismiss Alex Jones as a kook. He is not, but sometimes it gets hard to watch him, as his reporting can be very disturbing. He actually has gone down to the border in Texas, and it is really bad. Really bad. The major networks will not touch that, because the "truth" would make most of the country outraged.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at March 09, 2024 12:44 PM (tjZg/)

Out of the mainstream, which of course, is where media and culture are going as well.

It's become quite obvious, mainstream, ain't.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:48 PM (q9nKV)

166 Braenyard @ 155- Rush accepted Barkley as a fellow traveler?
What did Rush really think of Hannity? I loved Rush Limbaugh but Hannity has always been a rino IMO.

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2024 12:49 PM (NxC5+)

167 What the hell is wrong with Utah. In celebration of International Women's Day, REPUBLICAN Lt. Governor tweeted . . .

Deidre Henderson
@DeidreHenderson
OTD in 1917, tens of thousands of Russian women gathered in Petrograd'

That was the first revolution which removed the incompetent and not-too-bright Tsar and installed a typical Euro-style 'liberal' Progressive coalition. The Bolshevik 'Revolution' in October was an armed takeover of that government.

Posted by: LenNeal at March 09, 2024 12:49 PM (9yXr+)

168 I would also put a fire hydrant chances ahead of Sundowner

I wish every day he strokes out

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 12:49 PM (fwDg9)

169 Is sheik pronounced Sheek or Shake ?
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Yes.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 09, 2024 12:50 PM (2yu8s)

170 Still catching up with coffee comments....
We drove through a flood between Casa Eromero and Caddo lake yesterday, and just past Kilgore we noticed the passenger side windshield wiper blade separating. Got to O’Reilleys in Longview, got new blades all around and headed (passing through intersection under construction) back on I-20 east. The on-ramp was flooded with almost 2 feet of water and in the rain would have been hard to see, but we had NEW wipers. Providence!
Posted by: Eromero

Hi-way 31 & I-20? I have to take that route to College station on the 22nd. Spending the 20th and 21st in Longview before i head down to Tx A&M to be a judge at the state science fair for the 7th - 12th grade kids.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 09, 2024 12:50 PM (MsrgL)

171 What happens if Trump isn't cleared of his legal woes prior to election day? I would assume since he's not been convicted (yet) of anything that would preclude a presidential run nothing...

But maybe that's a crutch the Democrats can use to stymie any debate talk.

Might look normal to the sheeple.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 09, 2024 12:51 PM (Q4IgG)

172 I think I officially despise anyone who ever call corrupt and evil Joe decent, kind or honorable.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 12:48 PM (rWwta)

I never hear it in my daily life, but if I did, I have some ready-made responses to anyone who speaks favorably of the guy.

All the usual things that get said around here.

Adam Corolla is fond of saying something to the effect of, treat people with respect, but always have a "go f**k yourself" loaded in the chamber. That's kinda how I think of my meatspace interactions with people who are not as politically connected as everyone here. I'm not gonna start a political conversation, but if you get me started, I'm going to unload some rounds.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:52 PM (q9nKV)

173 >>> We are saved!

Arizona Gov. Hobbs Appoints Nation’s First "Chief Heat Officer"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy

"Chief Heat Officer"?
Awww, she has her own Sweet Dick.

Should try to make the name a little more subtle.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 12:54 PM (cOq4q)

174 What happens if Trump isn't cleared of his legal woes prior to election day? I would assume since he's not been convicted (yet) of anything that would preclude a presidential run nothing...

But maybe that's a crutch the Democrats can use to stymie any debate talk.

Might look normal to the sheeple.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 09, 2024 12:51 PM (Q4IgG)

Some states, including Georgia, are making noises about not certifying their electors.

You know, the thing everyone got their panties in a bunch about, claiming it was evidence Trump was engaging in an insurrection.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 12:55 PM (q9nKV)

175 173 Minister of Heat. Caloric Coordinator. Cold-Dispersal Deputy.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 12:56 PM (MvF+J)

176 “I voted Democratic every time just 'cause I thought it was gonna help black people and poor people.”

“If you're wearing a black person and you are wearing a Donald Trump mugshot, you are a freaking id*ot.”
Posted by: andycanuck'

Did I misread this? It reads to me like Barkley is stating that Democrats have failed him, finally, one too many times and that people displaying an anti-Trump image demanding/expecting that Trump be jailed are idiots. It's Barkley saying he's had enough and Trump isn't a Black People Hating Devil.
Again, did I misread this statement?

Posted by: LenNeal at March 09, 2024 12:57 PM (9yXr+)

177 Chief Heat Officer? I thought AZ had plenty of heat to go around.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 09, 2024 12:58 PM (DeFcY)

178 173 >>> We are saved!

Arizona Gov. Hobbs Appoints Nation’s First "Chief Heat Officer"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy

"Chief Heat Officer"?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 12:54 PM (cOq4q)
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That's the menopause officer right? Has a big fsn .....

Posted by: Ciampino - The ventilator czar at March 09, 2024 01:00 PM (qfLjt)

179 BifBwewalski @ 170, you could meet some morons at Country Tavern in Kilgore on Wednesday 20th March?

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2024 01:00 PM (NxC5+)

180 1) I have never noticed Putin using violence 'indiscriminately'. Using violence, absolutely. Indiscriminate violence? Not so much.

2) Perhaps California's Jews need to tell their Democrat 'friends' they've voted for, forever, to go fuck themselves and carry guns in their synagogues anyway.

Posted by: LenNeal at March 09, 2024 01:00 PM (9yXr+)

181 HVAC Czar.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:00 PM (MvF+J)

182
Isn't there an uninhabited island out in the bay that could be given to the homeless? Alca-something?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Plop plop fizz fizz

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 09, 2024 01:01 PM (63Dwl)

183 166 Braenyard @ 155- Rush accepted Barkley as a fellow traveler?
What did Rush really think of Hannity? I loved Rush Limbaugh but Hannity has always been a rino IMO.

Posted by: Eromero
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By my recollection Rush and Hannity were in the same building working for the same radio station in NY. When Rush was no longer affiliated with that station Hannity never subbed for Rush again.
I am of the opinion that Rush didn't think much of Hannity.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 01:01 PM (WEQkv)

184 Had a hint of rant this morning at work, but wife is asking about it.
Supervisor ( from Texas) tossed out plastic moldings I needed to finish as if it was in anyone's way and other trash was everywhere. So he had to go to Homey Depot to get me more. And I did a nice job on FRP in bathrooms and he put handicap bars in the wrong spots and had to move them to code so had holes all over my nice job.
Had a 1/2 tube of white silicone left over so gave it to him to fill his holes he made all over.

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:02 PM (fwDg9)

185 178
fan

Posted by: Ciampino - The ventilator czar? at March 09, 2024 01:02 PM (qfLjt)

186 Again, did I misread this statement?
Posted by: LenNeal at March 09, 2024 12:57 PM (9yXr+)

Yes, I believe you are. The Trump "mug shot" shirts refer to the extent to which Trump's mug shot have been VERY popular with black people who are now claiming Trump is "one of us." As in, we've been hounded by the law for years, we know what that's like.

It's mostly a troll, a joke, but Barkley, being the piece of shit he is, doesn't like black people leaving the plantation.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:03 PM (q9nKV)

187 Slaynews says Trump has narrowed his choice:

"A Republican strategist claims that Trump is down to three senators: J.D. Vance (R-OH), Katie Britt (R-AL), and Marco Rubio (R-FL)."

Not a strong slate if you ask me. None of them excite me.

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:03 PM (u3NjE)

188 Our new Heat Czar, The Kelvinator, absolutely will not stop until you are hot.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:03 PM (MvF+J)

189 "A Republican strategist claims that Trump is down to three senators: J.D. Vance (R-OH), Katie Britt (R-AL), and Marco Rubio (R-FL)."

Not a strong slate if you ask me. None of them excite me.
Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:03 PM (u3NjE)

Vance is outstanding in my book

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 01:04 PM (Akjoo)

190 Isn't there an uninhabited island out in the bay that could be given to the homeless? Alca-something?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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How about the Farallons?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 09, 2024 01:05 PM (DeFcY)

191 Heat Czar

********

Calorie Jarrett?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 01:05 PM (991eG)

192 Vance: I would say mediocre and I would be surprised to find his political influence expands Trump's.

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:05 PM (u3NjE)

193 Skip at March 09, 2024 01:02

Is he gonna drink water from a hollowed out hoofprint now ?

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2024 01:06 PM (T4tVD)

194 Uninhabited island?

*******

Atlantis

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2024 01:06 PM (991eG)

195 Vance is outstanding in my book
Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 01:04 PM (Akjoo)

Vance might be a smart choice, but it all still sounds like NFL mock draft nonsense to me.

Either you know, and you're not saying, or you don't, and you're speculating like the rest of us.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:07 PM (q9nKV)

196 I don't get how companies get jobs 1/2 the country away and send people to run them.

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:08 PM (fwDg9)

197 And "anonymous republican strategist" might not even be associated with Trump and might be some Bulwark flunkie trying to influence the selection.

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:08 PM (u3NjE)

198 Either you know, and you're not saying, or you don't, and you're speculating like the rest of us.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:07 PM (q9nKV)

Rubio is from FL and Britt ruined her chances with her SOTU rebuttal I hear even though I thought it was fine

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 01:08 PM (Akjoo)

199 Run into it a few jobs a year.

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:09 PM (fwDg9)

200 Trump's an idiot if chooses an existing politician as VP. They are way too easy to blackmail.

As we've seen. Out of the 3 named... I would think all carry some sort of political/personal baggage that can be leveraged.

He'd be better served by picking a random name out of a phone book.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 09, 2024 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)

201 That's what makes me think I could be wrong, Donna. You liked Britt's rebuttal. I thought it was terrible. You like Vance. He is very off-putting to me. Maybe they've got reach I don't understand. I don't see it, though,

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:10 PM (u3NjE)

202
Uninhabited island?
*******
Atlantis

Isn't that where Donovan's Reef is?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 09, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)

203 201 That's what makes me think I could be wrong, Donna. You liked Britt's rebuttal. I thought it was terrible. You like Vance. He is very off-putting to me. Maybe they've got reach I don't understand. I don't see it, though,
Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:10 PM (u3NjE)

LOL.. I'm in the minority when it comes to Britt's rebuttal but I think most Conservatives like Vance

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 01:11 PM (Akjoo)

204 Mark the date: I went to Dollar General and dental floss WAS IN STOCK! (Not anymore.) It's been a lonnnng floss dry spell at DG.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:11 PM (MvF+J)

205 There's not the slightest possibility Rivera would have said any different. His tweet requires absolutely no thought or reflection. He could have written it a week before the speech.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 01:12 PM (rWwta)

206 I can't forget Vance came out hard against Trump until it became politically expedient to turn around.

But Trump doesn't have to convince conservatives. He has to convince women across the spectrum.

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:12 PM (u3NjE)

207 Anybody read Vance's book?

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:14 PM (MvF+J)

208 Northernlurker he probably did, at least before the screaming started

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:14 PM (fwDg9)

209 I remember when Charles Barley was thrown out of the Republican National Convention last year. Robert Byrd got things rolling when he showed up with a "No Knee Grows" t-shirt and began singing "Dixie". Then Joe Biden came onto the stage and said no one wanted a racial jungle in the republican party. Then Bill Clinton said Charles should be bringing him coffee not getting all uppity about being a republican. Hillary finished it off by escorting Charles to the exits and told him she was gonna hit him in the crack of his ass with her bottle of hot sauce as she was no ways tarrd if he din int git.

Remember it like yesterday. Oh wait...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 09, 2024 01:15 PM (R/m4+)

210 Rubio is from FL and Britt ruined her chances with her SOTU rebuttal I hear even though I thought it was fine
Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2024 01:08 PM (Akjoo)

Rubio is a joke, and shouldn't be taken seriously by anybody.

I didn't see the Britt speech, and don't care, but she's a good looking woman. And if that matters, then I guess she's competing with Noem and Kari Lake for the job.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:17 PM (3Cni0)

211 I went to Dollar General and dental floss WAS IN STOCK! (Not anymore.) It's been a lonnnng floss dry spell at DG.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's

*********

I sense a disturbance inn the floss.

Posted by: Young Jedi stock boy at March 09, 2024 01:18 PM (991eG)

212 209
Remember it like yesterday. Oh wait...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 09, 2024 01:15 PM (R/m4+)
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Do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Ciampino - The ventilator... at March 09, 2024 01:18 PM (qfLjt)

213 Anybody read Vance's book?
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:14 PM (MvF+J)

No, but I ordered some books recently, and when they arrived, among them was Rand Paul's book on the Fauci scam.

Really? Did I order that? Why?? I don't drink, so I can't use that as an excuse.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:20 PM (3Cni0)

214 My teeth look like shit, but they're still all mine. I had one dentist tell me I flossed too much. Wish I had started doing it earlier in life fer sure.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:20 PM (MvF+J)

215 I don't like any of them. I don't like women who use their sex appeal as a defense and then scream about misogyny when everyone disagrees with them.

https://tinyurl.com/3v75xfvz

Alexei Navalny's letter from prison as read by Benedict Cumberbatch.

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:20 PM (u3NjE)

216 Not that anyone should care, yesterday Peggy Noonan write a real suck up piece on FJ
B's SOTU. The thing is, she was a former Presidential speech writer. For Ronald Reagan.

I hope the cocktail circuit is worth it to you, Peggy

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2024 01:21 PM (u3gQw)

217 >>>Anybody read Vance's book?
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:14 PM (MvF+J)
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Hillbilly Ellergy, yes it’s a good read. Some woke crap at the end but a good story.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 09, 2024 01:21 PM (r8NKP)

218 "Rand Paul's book on the Fauci scam."

Sounds like it might be a good'un.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:21 PM (MvF+J)

219 It's amazing how relevant Reagan's 1964 speech for Goldwater still is.

Posted by: Ribbed at March 09, 2024 01:21 PM (u3NjE)

220 Did Biden's hour of screaming give Jennifer Rubin a screaming orgasm?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 01:23 PM (rWwta)

221
Well Morons I just got through with a visit from 2 of my brothers and their wives drove up from Dublin, Ga. They just left to go back It was a good visit.

Posted by: vic at March 09, 2024 01:23 PM (A5THL)

222 "Rand Paul's book on the Fauci scam."
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Sounds like it might be a good'un.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:21 PM (MvF+J)

I just don't want to read what any politician writes... whether they write it or someone else writes it for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:23 PM (3Cni0)

223 207 Shimmy

I read "Hillbilly Elegy."

I thought it was an interesting story-- how he overcame his difficult childhood. He credits his military service with showing him that he could take control of his oen life.

In short, I was impressed by his book.

Posted by: mnw at March 09, 2024 01:25 PM (NLIak)

224 223 I just now read the Wikipedia capsule on it. I see there's a movie adaptation.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:27 PM (MvF+J)

225 How many trees have been mercilessly been slaughtered by the likes of Hillary and the Obamas?
Where are the Ents when we need them?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 09, 2024 01:29 PM (rWwta)

226 Sharp, feisty, confident, competent, watch for the polls to move Biden’s way.

Then Biden is perfectly capable of being charged and standing trial for his intended top secret document theft / selling over the course of 30 years.
The jury can not possible see him as a kindly, muddled old man if he's sharp, feisty and competent, right?

Posted by: old chick at March 09, 2024 01:29 PM (sOete)

227 nood

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:29 PM (MvF+J)

228
I just don't want to read what any politician writes... whether they write it or someone else writes it for them.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 09, 2024 01:23 PM (3Cni0)

I respect your opinion, but I think Rand Paul, like his father, is not a typical politician. In fact, I'm surprised he didn't give it up.long ago. Or after being shot. And he's a MD criticizing Fauci.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2024 01:29 PM (u3gQw)

229 192 Ribbed

I'd be curious to know what caused you to form a negative opinion about Vance.

He IS smart, you know (Yale & Wall Street, IIRC). And conservative/MAGA. And he's proud of his military service, I think rightly so.

I just don't see the problem myself.

Posted by: mnw at March 09, 2024 01:30 PM (NLIak)

230 Trump is not going to lose a senator to gain a VP.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 01:30 PM (WEQkv)

231 228 I don't trust pols, but I distrust RP the least, can't explain why. I expect to be disappointed in any case.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at March 09, 2024 01:31 PM (MvF+J)

232 Happy birthday to one of the original commenters here, Vic. I miss you when you aren't around.
Happy birthday tomorrow, Puddleglum.
Happy birthday, Sharon.

and, to Muldoon, how I hope your fil will someday soon be home and that he and his/your family will finally be able to be at peace.

Posted by: old chick at March 09, 2024 01:34 PM (sOete)

233 GOOD NEWS ...

F-35A Becomes First Certified 5th-Gen Fighter To Carry Thermonuclear Gravity Bombs
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"This move is part of the US expanding effort in and among the US and NATO allies to counter... "

Posted by: Victoria Nuland at March 09, 2024 01:35 PM (RovqD)

234 vic,

I'm glad you have family you get along with.

There's noting left in my family other than women and they all hate me.

Posted by: pawn at March 09, 2024 01:35 PM (QB+5g)

235 I don't recall any "woke crap" at the end of Vance's book, but I did read it several years ago & can't remember all the details.

I'd like to know WHAT "woke crap" exactly.

This being a dead thread, I doubt there'll be much further discussion about Vance, though.

Posted by: mnw at March 09, 2024 01:36 PM (NLIak)

236 I'll just leave this here for anyone who is interested:

"It’s horrific when a political opponent dies in jail.

But it’s also never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

Navalny in this video is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is why he was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration."

https://tinyurl.com/2avsdn6y

Posted by: Nikki Haley's luxuriously hairy nipples - Alex Jones Was Right at March 09, 2024 01:49 PM (AIJ3L)

237 I'm sure it's just money laundering. Some pig at CIA or State has an asset in Chile who wanted half a mil in graft for himself or his village, so the Navy says "blah blah blah discretionary budget blah blah gender and fag stuff blah blah here's your payoff, Joachim."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, Snow Roach at March 09, 2024 01:49 PM (J+Y20)

238 Things are proceeding as we have foreseen.

* wings flap in unison *

Posted by: Big Penguin at March 09, 2024 01:54 PM (a3Q+t)

239 >>> Then Biden is perfectly capable of being charged and standing trial for his intended top secret document theft / selling over the course of 30 years.
The jury can not possible see him as a kindly, muddled old man if he's sharp, feisty and competent, right?
Posted by: old chick

His statement about premeditated vote fraud to overthrow what should have been an open and free election is enough proof of a coup/treason for me. Just need a prosecutor and jury...
They can replay his own statements every hour in case he cannot remember why he is locked up.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 01:59 PM (cOq4q)

240 Things are proceeding as we have foreseen.

* wings flap in unison *
Posted by: Big Penguin

Watch it, you stupid bird.

Posted by: Otter 841 at March 09, 2024 02:02 PM (tjZg/)

241 Biden was daft before the last election, always bragging on his high crimes like it was clever.
But, you know what, they worked.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 02:03 PM (cOq4q)

242 Vic glad it was a good time and a Big Happy Birthday from me.
Do stay around here

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 02:07 PM (fwDg9)

243 His statement about premeditated vote fraud to overthrow what should have been an open and free election is enough proof of a coup/treason for me. Just need a prosecutor and jury...

--

Did he admit to a recent one that I haven't heard or is this one of his two or three caught on film back in 2020?

Posted by: Nikki Haley's luxuriously hairy nipples - Alex Jones Was Right at March 09, 2024 02:11 PM (AIJ3L)

244 Sundowner always was a blowhard lier

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

245 I still every day have to make myself believe he won from by Coup D'etat

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 02:19 PM (fwDg9)

246 Good God man! Do people not realize that Gavin Newsom is just Willard Romney's hair piece molded around William Jefferson Clinton's Peyronie-diseased cock?

Gavin's intelligence and work ethic are on the same level as Nancy Pelosi's 75 year old nipples.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 09, 2024 02:20 PM (EEgXH)

247 Yesterday was International Women's Day, the same date as the start of the Russian revolution. Utah's Republican Lt. Governor thinks it a great day because the Russian Rev was started by women. This is the current state of the dogshit GOP folks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 09, 2024 02:21 PM (eYF7X)

248 Did he admit to a recent one that I haven't heard or is this one of his two or three caught on film back in 2020?

2020

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 02:34 PM (cOq4q)

249 246 Good God man! Do people not realize that Gavin Newsom is just Willard Romney's hair piece molded around William Jefferson Clinton's Peyronie-diseased cock?

Gavin's intelligence and work ethic are on the same level as Nancy Pelosi's 75 year old nipples.

Posted by: Dr. Bone
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So, Barry Soetoro in white face.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2024 02:36 PM (WEQkv)

250 I am pretty well up on my Russian Revolution history, women didn't start it.
Unless women want to own up in murdering thousands at the start

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 02:36 PM (fwDg9)

251 Nancy's nipples are 83, just like the rest of her.

Posted by: Hammer Time! at March 09, 2024 02:51 PM (V5BDR)

252

Indiana Republican Sen. Todd Young, who said earlier this year that he was not sure whether or not he would support former president Donald Trump should he become the Republican nominee for president, said Friday, as the presidential race took a clearer shape after Super Tuesday, that he would not endorse Trump’s candidacy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 09, 2024 02:53 PM (63Dwl)

253 Local public radio was playing all women artists yesterday because of International Women’s Day. I asked my coworker if she felt honored, affirmed, and validated, and she just laughed.

Posted by: kallisto at March 09, 2024 03:19 PM (0q/LC)

254 252

Young was re-elected in '22, so he has a long runway before he has to worry about MAGA blowback-- he's not up again until '28.

Altho he says he has a "long list" of objections to Trump, his #1 complaint seems to be that Trump is insufficiently supportive of UKR.

Many posters here might be surprised at how well DEMs have made Liz Cheney into a Joan of Arc-like martyr.

He joins Murkowski, & Romney (lame duck) as anti-Trump GOP senators. Maybe Collins too, I dunno.

Posted by: mnw at March 09, 2024 03:24 PM (NLIak)

255 "Many posters here might be surprised at how well DEMs have made Liz Cheney into a Joan of Arc-like martyr."

Ewww. I'd rather watch Freddie Krueger hack and slash than Liz Cheney impersonate Joan of Arc.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 09, 2024 06:46 PM (KAi1n)

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