BAD THERAPY: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up

No matter how profoundly they've failed, their response is always:
"Give us more money. Give us more power. Let us do more."
Abigail Shrier

How Bad Therapy Hijacked Our Nation's Schools - Free Press

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If you want to climb a mountain, don't go two steps and ask, 'How do I feel?'

Nearly all public schools offer some type of counseling, mental health or "wellness" lessons, writes Abigail Shrier in Free Press. But kids are more troubled than ever. Often, these interventions "target the healthy, inadvertently exacerbating kids' worry, sadness and feelings of incapacity."
In her new book, Bad Therapy: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up, Shrier complains that social-emotional learning has gone far beyond teaching students how to disagree respectfully or "get a grip." It's become "a curricular juggernaut that devours billions in education spending each year."

Teachers are encouraged to start the school day with an "emotions check-in." At a conference for California teachers, counselor Natalie Sedano shared her check-in: "How are you feeling today? Are you daisy-bright, happy and friendly? Or am I a ladybug? Will I fly away if we get too close?"

What could possibly go wrong? Maybe something like this?

A Salt Lake City mother told her about an "emotions check-in" for fifth graders in which the teacher asked: What "is making you really sad right now?"

. . . one boy began mumbling about his father's new girlfriend. Then things fell apart. "All of a sudden, he just started bawling. And he was like, 'I think that my dad hates me. And he yells at me all the time,' " said Laura, a mom of one of the other students.
Another girl announced that her parents had divorced and burst into tears. Another said she was worried about the man her mother was dating. Within minutes, half of the kids were sobbing. It was time for the math lesson, but no one wanted to do it.

See more, plus references, at the link.

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When Every Day is a Mental Health Day

Via J.J. Sefton's Morning Report, Feb. 28, Kay S. Hymowitz reviews Abigail Shrier's new book, Bad Therapy: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up

Abigail Shrier's first book, 2020's Irreversible Damage, launched the mother of all cancel campaigns. Because the book attributed the sudden and inexplicable rise in juvenile gender anxiety to social contagion rather than the activist-approved explanation of social progress, Shrier, an occasional contributor to City Journal, was branded a "transphobe." Amazon employees demanded the company remove the book from its virtual shelves. Unlike the suits at Target, who briefly did exactly that, Amazon stopped short of cancelling the book and settled for banning any paid advertising. Despite growing questions about juvenile transgender treatment, including among practitioners, many libraries continue to treat Irreversible Damage as radioactive. Only last month, a Japanese publisher reneged on plans to publish the book, proving that, whether or not transgenderism is contagious, the urge to cancel those out of line with approved ideas unquestionably is.
Shrier's new book Bad Therapy, an astute and impassioned analysis of the mental-health crisis now afflicting adolescents, may cause a similar emotional meltdown in some corners of American culture. Shrier's target is more expansive than it was in Irreversible Damage; she aims her fire at the therapeutic mindset that pervades not just the offices of psychologists and counsellors, but elementary, middle, and high school classrooms, best-seller lists, middle-class homes, and government agencies. It's a pernicious development because a therapeutic mindset easily paralyzes kids' natural defenses and resilience, hence the crisis we confront today. Assuming a Bad Therapy backlash comes, it is unlikely to be as heated as it was in the case of Irreversible Damage -- therapists, who have the most to lose if Shrier's analysis were to win out, are a more sedate crowd than trans activists -- but one hopes that for the sake of the rising generation, any pushback won't prevent people from heeding the warnings of this important book.
Shrier's general thesis is that Gen Z's distress is iatrogenic in origin. That is, it is caused in large part by the treatment -- in this case, bad therapy -- meant to cure it. . .

I'm not sure that the academic set and the federal bureaucracy supporting it are easy opponents. They may not be pushing the end of all that is "normal" like proponents of Queer Theory, but the left is the left. They already have a history of pushing the more traditional psychologists (say, those who do not support pathologizing maleness) out of universities.

Shrier's chapters on the schools' contribution to this era of bad therapy make the most compelling case for iatrogenesis. Schools are now wedded to Social and Emotional Learning, one of the latest of the recurring fads that regularly excite American educators. SEL has the effect of promoting "unceasing attention to feelings" and nourishes hyper vigilance and, she argues, anxiety. Teachers schedule "mindfulness minutes" (to bring attention back to the present moment) and "emotion check ins" (how are we feeling today?) Though untrained and without any thought-out theory of the juvenile mind, teachers encourage kids to share thoughts making them sad or angry -- their parents' divorce, a fight with a father -- in front of other kids. Woe to the shy or introverted child: educators seem intent on subjecting their students to the stares and gossip of their classmates, though they may be effectively preparing them for the TMI spirit of social media.
Moreover, as in the case of the nurse with the child-suicide inventory, SEL-inspired professionals are quick to insert themselves between parents and children. In a number of states, laws allow 13-year-olds to go to a counsellor without notifying their parents. In a number of school districts, a similarly misguided deference for juvenile privacy applies to kids who ask teachers to change their pronouns and names in an effort to change their sex with no parental input. "Social-emotional learning," Shrier quips, "turns out to be a lot like the Holy Roman Empire, neither social, nor good for emotional health, nor something that can be learned."
When fragility is adults' default assumption about children, when trauma is assumed to be omnipresent -- Atlantic writer Derek Thompson notes that the TikTok hashtag #Trauma has more than 6 billion views -- it has a pernicious effect on children's perceptions. It frames their expectations and understanding of their experience, denying them opportunities to learn how to exercise their natural resilience. By the time they are in high school, they are walking psychiatric manuals, casually reciting all their friends' maladies. . .

Yipes!!!!

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Getting out in front of censorship of Shrier's new book

Her message is hopeful. This is one thing we can change!

Gemini cannot decide who affected civilization more negatively, Abigail Shrier or Mao.

American kids are the freest, most privileged kids in all of history. They are also the most anxious, depressed, and medicated generation on record.
What's going on?

Bari Weiss (podcast included)

In California, if you take your son to the doctor for a stomachache, a large man with a clipboard comes in and asks you to leave.
When you exit the room, the large man starts asking your son whether he ever considered whether his family would be better off if he were dead.
Richard Hanania

It's called The Joe Rogan Experience for a reason. There's nothing like it.
Thank you, @joerogan, for this incredible opportunity.
Abigail Shrier

Elon Musk checks in.

Put "Never Went to Therapy" on my gravestone

“How did the first generation to raise kids without spanking produce the first generation to declare they never wanted kids of their own?

“How did kids raised so gently come to believe that they had experienced debilitating childhood trauma?

“How did kids who received far… pic.twitter.com/FzUIsJTKFC
— Moms for Liberty (@Moms4Liberty) February 28, 2024

Long interview with Coleman Hughes

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Music and Dance

Dancing can be pretty good therapy sometimes.

Does this look like West Coast Swing to you?

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, February 24, Why all good Americans must be afraid of "Christian Nationalists"

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:04 AM

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1 First?

Posted by: lin-duh at March 02, 2024 11:05 AM (PZo5T)

2 Good morning Hordemates!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 02, 2024 11:08 AM (W/lyH)

3 French?

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 11:09 AM (LX56V)

4 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 11:11 AM (fwDg9)

5 It doesn't improve therapy when confused kids are told to get themselves mutilated.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 11:11 AM (xcrUy)

6 So little trust for education and medical fields.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 02, 2024 11:11 AM (BNkCC)

7 No one is going to confront it, but the reality is if we hate this generation, who were their parents? I know the world I grew up in my parents didn’t tell me to do or think anything they just led by example. I guess I could’ve gone lefty, but to be honest that wasn’t possible why would I have even thought of such a thing? No one wants to be to blame for their kids, but we keep talking about these young generations, as if they didn’t have parents.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 11:11 AM (LX56V)

8 Hi Skip,

Good Morning, Horde

Posted by: KT at March 02, 2024 11:12 AM (rrtZS)

9 All this therapy in school horsepuckey reminds me of the saying about perfection being the enemy of excellence.

Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 11:12 AM (86W+h)

10 Just give the kid a "smart phone"....."here, distract yourself".

Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2024 11:13 AM (AwYPR)

11 We have turned the kids into mental patients, their every issue magnified and not sorted by parents. Then we medicate the fuck out of them.

Why are we surprised?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2024 11:13 AM (di6C2)

12 6 good, most doctors couldn’t tell you a good diet to try if they were paid to do so. The average teacher couldn’t tell you anything about this country if their job was on the line. In education degree as I’ve been told is basically not having a degree at all, it is a copout.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 11:13 AM (LX56V)

13 So little trust for education and medical fields.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

They've worked hard to earn that amount of trust.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 02, 2024 11:14 AM (xWxaX)

14 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2024 11:14 AM (T4tVD)

15 Everything is fucked.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 02, 2024 11:16 AM (BNkCC)

16 OT- anyone know why my mouse won't scoll on AoSHQ? It works fine on any other page/website. Been this way for days.

Posted by: free tibet at March 02, 2024 11:17 AM (DQlPT)

17 anyone know why my mouse won't scoll on AoSHQ? It works fine on any other page/website. Been this way for days.
Posted by: free tibet
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I assume you tried to slap a hot iron to it.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 02, 2024 11:19 AM (PZo5T)

18 I thought that was the standard explanation for why more women are depressed than men - women tend to be more introspective, which is not necessarily a good thing.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 11:19 AM (YAtuc)

19 OT- anyone know why my mouse won't scoll on AoSHQ? It works fine on any other page/website. Been this way for days.
Posted by: free tibet at

It's all the cat lovers.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 11:19 AM (xcrUy)

20 10 Just give the kid a "smart phone"....."here, distract yourself".
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2024 11:13 AM (AwYPR)

Ok, setting aside porn (which impact cannot be missed) there are other things about cell phones I have a problem with at that age.

I think about the number of times I went with my Mom to the public library and she showed me how to look up answers to questions that she or Dad could not answer. Asking Dad about cars while 'helping' him change the oil or spark plugs. It's not just that that got me out of the house or improved socialization (with parent training wheels) but that it also added context to info you do not get by merely asking the black square a question.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2024 11:21 AM (di6C2)

21 13 So little trust for education and medical fields.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

They've worked hard to earn that amount of trust.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 02, 2024 11:14 AM (xWxaX)

This. Dear Lord, this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2024 11:22 AM (di6C2)

22 Wonderful dance! Ice dancing without the ice. Thank you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 02, 2024 11:24 AM (MIKMs)

23 1) can’t define the two sexes

2) your country is a racist, colonizing society

3) practicing Christians are evil

4) men can marry men and women can marry women

5) governments should be able to see your every move, every interaction

You grow up in a society like that and there is a good chance you’d be f’ed up too.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 02, 2024 11:24 AM (++4z6)

24 Gonna buy Abigail's new book. Not sure I'll read it, just like her last one, but I buy the books to support the author. She's doing the Lord's work.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2024 11:24 AM (xdFOQ)

25 Nearly all public schools offer counseling to be mental health deficient

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 11:25 AM (fwDg9)

26 I think many people who had kids, they're not really "parents" in the traditional sense, discovered that parenting is hard and outsourced it to the government (schools, therapists, etc.)

That, and the 24x7 drumbeat from the left about transgenderism being the new normal, sexual relations between children and adults is OK and so on really poisoned childhood.

It's a generation that will suicide itself out of existence.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 11:25 AM (Q4IgG)

27 The Cultural Marxist Seminaries have totally failed children

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 11:25 AM (fwDg9)

28 OT- anyone know why my mouse won't scoll on AoSHQ? It works fine on any other page/website. Been this way for days.
Posted by: free tibet at March 02, 2024 11:17 AM (DQlPT)

I just changed the battery in mine, it's been spotty for a while, but just up and said "nope" literally 5 minutes ago.

If it's just this site, there's no logical reason I can think of why that would be, but the battery dying is my best guess.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2024 11:27 AM (xdFOQ)

29 One of the creepiest things about all this SEL stuff in schools is how much stuff about kids, their families and friends gets reported up "through the system".

Posted by: KT at March 02, 2024 11:27 AM (rrtZS)

30 OT- anyone know why my mouse won't scoll on AoSHQ? It works fine on any other page/website. Been this way for days.
Posted by: free tibet

Well.

Free Tibet
Chinese built mouse.
Kinda sums it up.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 02, 2024 11:27 AM (W/lyH)

31 Local Jesuit run grade-school added the emotional support learning or whatever it's called. Most of the parents are leftists and even they are unhappy about it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 11:27 AM (fs1hN)

32 Loved this poast, KT! I fret about the youth of today, having so much reality stolen from them. What can be done to redeem them from the horrors of their institutions?

I'm in a thoughtful frame of mind today, having just read "Political Conflict in the Age of Psychic Warfare" on the Postcards From Barsoom substack. I strongly encourage you all to wallow in this one-hour read (more if you follow the links within the text). If you don't have the time or inclination today, please set it aside for later. https://tinyurl.com/fe6r47b9

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 02, 2024 11:28 AM (w6EFb)

33 Oh what a sweet dance! Thx KT!

Posted by: Derak at March 02, 2024 11:30 AM (RuGae)

34 OT- anyone know why my mouse won't scoll on AoSHQ? It works fine on any other page/website. Been this way for days.
Posted by: free tibet at March 02, 2024 11:17 AM (DQlPT)

Did it drink water from a filthy hoof print ?

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2024 11:30 AM (T4tVD)

35 Happy Texas Independence Day, y’all!

Posted by: Eromero at March 02, 2024 11:32 AM (khxKA)

36 I used to hate the French like San franpsycho Then I woke up, and I realized the French are just like us. They will never be on our side.

The thing about the French is they don’t move here they don’t try to break our laws and immigrate here or act as illegal. Aliens as we used to call them. As many Americans want to go to France for whatever reason as French people that want to come here. That is what makes us so bitter, we both think we are the be all and end all. if someone questions my American bona fides because I say that they’re just wrong. I’m the most hard-core right wing American you’ll ever find, but I finally understood this thing about the French that many Americans do not. By the way, this is not some type of protection of the French politicos. I think they suck Chirac, Macron, all of them, legit jagoffs. They say Mitterand was the most pro American president. He was awful, but I think they were right.

By the way, they hate all our presidents and all Europeans hate our presidents. Never listen to a European talking about an American president, they are dimwhities and they want us to be weak

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 11:32 AM (LX56V)

37 Well.

Free Tibet
Chinese built mouse.
Kinda sums it up.

Yeah, and Whirled Peas

Posted by: free tibet at March 02, 2024 11:32 AM (DQlPT)

38 Thursday at work as usual pop into AoSHq a few times a day yet couldn't get anything here even using history to get Tech thread. Finally tried a few other sires and worked so feared some shut down here. Home all was fine all day and Friday made lots of comments.

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 11:34 AM (fwDg9)

39 Nothing will change inasmuch as the "child welfare industrial complex" is too deeply entrenched. That is, the refusal to accept the "diagnosis" of some 22 year old, education "professional" is deemed prima facie evidence warranting state intervention. It's been going on for fifty years. Put this in the same category as the child sex abuse hysteria of the Eighties.

Posted by: RS at March 02, 2024 11:34 AM (E7m29)

40 Been waiting for an opening to get my taxes done. Of course, they lost my appointment. Wife's Dr appointment last week-same thing. Fucking assclowns.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 02, 2024 11:34 AM (BNkCC)

41 ‘And we was swangin’…..’

Posted by: Eromero at March 02, 2024 11:36 AM (khxKA)

42 That dance video was special and the background music amazing. Thank you K.T.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 02, 2024 11:36 AM (8e0w3)

43 It's a simple rule. The rapists are "experts". And if you want to hear something 100% wrong, ask an expert.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 02, 2024 11:37 AM (1bNHn)

44 I said it in the other thread, but my cousin and I used to go to the Texas Embassy in London. It was the restaurant. The restaurant was within a block of the actual Texas Embassy, that Texas had with London after gained independence..

The food was just OK but it was a really cool place and I’m sorry to hear that has been closed down. I went to a couple Tex-Mex places in England because I was there a long time, and every Texan needs some chips, salsa and margaritas once in a while. Also went to some TexMex places in Paris and those were actually better. They all sucked because let’s be honest why wouldn’t they?

I love small town America, but it is shocking but people think it’s good Mexican food. I am legit biased as hell and I do think Texas and California do it way better than anyone else. And I’m not talking about “Authentic Mexican” whatever that means I’m talking about legit TexMex and I guess Cali-Mex.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 11:38 AM (LX56V)

45 If it keeps raining, I'm gonna hafta build an Arc.

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2024 11:38 AM (T4tVD)

46 BAD THERAPY: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up

C'mon, Jack! Last thread you were just discussing how I'm helping solve this problem!

470 WaPo: Biden Asked Aides for Advice on How Young People "Make Love" During Pandemic
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Dude, does your computer not have a PornHub button?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 10:41 AM (FVME7)

There's a whole section on young women/old men.
Posted by: BurtTC

The mainstream sites don't allow the "old man/REALLY young girl" stuff I like. Helping little girls become women, one at a time. I'm a real humanitarian!

Posted by: Resident Joe Biden at March 02, 2024 11:38 AM (JCZqz)

47 The local public school is having a job fair next week. I will be out of town, but I'm sure I'm qualified to be a substitute, but why would anyone want to be a teacher or substitute with the way the schools are now unless they were a rabid leftist?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2024 11:40 AM (Ki//m)

48 Cali-Mex was great. I miss it.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 02, 2024 11:41 AM (w6EFb)

49 For some reason, when I see the name Abigail Shrier, my brain wants to think Amity Shlaes. Stupid brain. What's it done for me lately?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 02, 2024 11:41 AM (sNc8Y)

50 Norfolk Southern freight train derails in Pennsylvania

https://tinyurl.com/434skz5d

Posted by: Ciampino - Casey & The Train at March 02, 2024 11:41 AM (qfLjt)

51 Local Jesuit run grade-school
Posted by: Chuck Martel

I see the problem and it starts with a J.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 02, 2024 11:42 AM (xWxaX)

52 If you think the problems that government creates are bad wait until you see the solutions to those problems that government comes up with.

Government is doom spiral into destruction of humanity.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 02, 2024 11:48 AM (17s+e)

53 Im listening to the album Screaming For Vengeance this morning for gun cleaning music, because the whole thing is totally awesome.

But Electric Eye always gives me the heebie jeebies. Why, of all people, was it an English dungeon queer who foretold the slide of Western democracies into technocratic police states decades before it happened, and many years before it was even technically feasible?

It's like some time traveler told Rob Halford that we'd one day, soon, elect people to imprison us all in an immortal digital panopticon. It all happened just like in the song.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 02, 2024 11:50 AM (0FoWg)

54 I blame the combination of smart phones and lack of education, particularly English. Lack of capitalization, punctuation, etc. Here's an example from today's 'News'.

The sheriff’s office describes skimmers as devices that are placed on fuel pumps, ATMs, and other machines that accept credit/debit cards to steal account information.

For the lack of two commas (after machines and cards) this sounds like ATMs' purpose is to steal account information.

Posted by: Ciampino - somebody makes these skimmers at March 02, 2024 11:52 AM (qfLjt)

55 Back when I was growing up, we didn't have SEL, we had brothers and sisters and friends and neighbors to kick our asses whenever we became a whiny little bitch. And we liked it.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2024 11:53 AM (EEgXH)

56 Did English Dungeon Queers open for Insane Clown Posse?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 02, 2024 11:53 AM (DeFcY)

57 I like Screaming for Vengeance more than British Steel.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 02, 2024 11:54 AM (BNkCC)

58 For the lack of two commas (after machines and cards) this sounds like ATMs' purpose is to steal account information.
Posted by: Ciampino - somebody makes these skimmers at March 02, 2024 11:52 AM (qfLjt)
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Better just to rearrange the sentence.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 02, 2024 11:54 AM (DeFcY)

59 52 If you think the problems that government creates are bad wait until you see the solutions to those problems that government comes up with.

Government is doom spiral into destruction of humanity.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

Government is, like, all of us, working together. If we, like, raise taxes to hire more government employees, they'll pay more in taxes, so we can, like, hire more government workers, and everyone wins. It's obvious!

Posted by: AOC and the other brain-dead Marxists at March 02, 2024 11:55 AM (JCZqz)

60 I see the problem and it starts with a J.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Jerry Lewis ?

Posted by: JT at March 02, 2024 11:56 AM (T4tVD)

61 I go through Saucon if I have to go to Allentown way for work

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 11:56 AM (fwDg9)

62 I moved out the house about a week after high school graduation. Dad was elated, mother was heartbroken. Didn't go to college right away, kicked around some blue collar jobs (some real stinkers) until I got enough $ to go to college.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 02, 2024 11:57 AM (MeG8a)

63 My kids go to the local leftist public high school. They don't fall for the social emotional and DEI crap. In fact they are adamantly against it.
**pats self on back**
THey have normal issues and I treat them like my parents did mine. They need to learn from their mistakes and understand actions have consequences.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 02, 2024 11:57 AM (PZo5T)

64 Fastball delivered, University of Maryland professor and co-author of just-released White Rural Rage: The Threat To American Democracy Tom Schaller took a swing. He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,” but whatever — then Schaller read off small town America’s charge sheet: rural whites, he said, are the most “racist,” “xenophobic,” “anti-immigrant and anti-gay,” “conspiracist,” “anti-democratic,” they “don’t believe in an independent press or free speech,” and are “most likely to accept or excuse violence,” for starters.

Posted by: SMOD at March 02, 2024 11:57 AM (RovqD)

65 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,”

Remember, Joe Biden left Scranton forever in 1953.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 11:59 AM (YAtuc)

66 I like Screaming for Vengeance more than British Steel.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 02, 2024 11:54 AM (BNkCC)

That's because it's better.

But British Steel kills, too.

Judas Priest was so fucking awesome it practically beggars belief. I know they're not a band that's escaped people's notice - but they're still underrated. Halford, in particular. A prodigious talent. Writing, playing, singing, the works. Just top-tier.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 02, 2024 12:01 PM (0FoWg)

67 Remember, Joe Biden left Scranton forever in 1953.

Scranton had 126,000 people in 1950, and 76,000 now.

The Biden Curse strikes again!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 12:03 PM (YAtuc)

68 Extreme golf.

https://tinyurl.com/3p4vf6sw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:03 PM (FVME7)

69 Legitimate use/need for therapy could be over-run by this shove toward therapy for everything. When my grandson was between nine and ten he started second, third, fourth, and etc guessing himself for some reason over making decisions, even as simple as what shoes he wanted. He saw a (male) therapist for a few months. He's eleven now and no longer having trouble.

Posted by: Lirio100 at March 02, 2024 12:03 PM (I5U35)

70 >>>Posted by: SMOD

>This author you speak of, Tom Schaller, is insane.

Heavy is the burden.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2024 12:04 PM (EEgXH)

71 Back when I was growing up, we didn't have SEL, we had brothers and sisters and friends and neighbors to kick our asses whenever we became a whiny little bitch. And we liked it.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2024 11:53 AM (EEgXH)

Concur. Learned to keep one's mouth shut unless you knew the shot. Eyes and ears open. Took a beating now and then and deserved them when they came my way.

Too many people today are made of cardboard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 02, 2024 12:04 PM (R/m4+)

72 Scranton had 126,000 people in 1950, and 76,000 now.

The Biden Curse strikes again!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 12:03 PM (YAtuc)
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Scranton was the "bindlestiff city" in Blish's "Cities In Flight".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 02, 2024 12:04 PM (DeFcY)

73
Followed a JackStraw link and discovered the 2020 ballots in Fulton County were not signature verified. Trump won Georgia. Period.

Even though it's not exactly the accurate quote, "Methinks thou doth protest too much" is in play. Will the Judge throw everything out? He should. But we'll see. All the evidence points to a cluster of f of historic proportions in that state.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:05 PM (RKVpM)

74 Another one from SfV that freaks me out is Devil's Child. I used to bang chicks to that song when I was a kid... But ever since Rob confirmed the rumors, I can never hear it the same way again.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 02, 2024 12:06 PM (0FoWg)

75 The best therapy? No therapy.

And school is for reading, writing, and ‘rithmetic (keep everything else out). That approach worked for awhile

I hate the touchy-feely crap

Great stuff. Thanks, K.T.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 02, 2024 12:06 PM (xT8gx)

76 63, I looked back at my life because it’s pretty obvious that many kids of conservatives have become a liberal for whatever reason. I Think About how my parents raised me, and a kid figure out exactly what they might’ve done or I might’ve done to change things. my parents lead by example, they just live their lives, and that was enough.

I don’t take this slightly because I truly believe many conservative people have raised leftist kids and I don’t understand why. I do understand we all have to go our own way. But I am not going to pretend to understand why conservative parents raise leftist kids. I think people should delve into that. I think it’s an important issue.

I am not blaming the parents, but at the same time that world is so far from the one I grew up in it is very difficult to understand.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 12:08 PM (LX56V)

77 Someone shook up the snow globe.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 02, 2024 12:10 PM (DeFcY)

78 65 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,”

If you don't vote Biden you ain't rural.
I don't believe Biden could pronounce rural.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 12:11 PM (xcrUy)

79 Kinda funny. Conservatives hijack #WhiteRuralRage hashtag.

https://tinyurl.com/3p4vf6sw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:12 PM (FVME7)

80 33 Oh what a sweet dance! Thx KT!
Posted by: Derak at March 02, 2024 11:30 AM (RuGae

Looked like swing, but didn't sound like it. The closest thing to Fred and Cyd, since Fred and Cyd. Thanks.

Posted by: GOP sux at March 02, 2024 12:13 PM (Zzbjj)

81 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,”

When you live in New York City, any city of less than 100,000 people is "rural".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 12:13 PM (YAtuc)

82 I wouldn't trust bai-din ti pick eggs in a chicken house.

Posted by: Eromero at March 02, 2024 12:13 PM (khxKA)

83 The best therapy? No therapy.

-
Not tire iron therapy?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:14 PM (FVME7)

84 Remember, Joe Biden left Scranton forever in 1953.

They should have an annual day of celebration.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2024 12:15 PM (Ki//m)

85 If I ran Ft. Meade or Utah Data Center, I'd pipe in Electric Eye at the start of every shift.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 02, 2024 12:15 PM (0FoWg)

86 My spawn have attended the same small town school that I did. Boy spawn was National honor society and commander of his Navy Junior ROTC unit. Army after graduation and college after Army. He's getting married in June.
Girl spawn is graduating in May. First from Ivy Tech with a general associates degree, then from h.s. She will be attending Vincennes University in the fall.
SEL hasn't been a thing for them. Why? Because they get emotional support at home. They don't feel compelled to constantly share their feels on social media because we kept them away from that crap.
Kids need structure and guidance. George Carlin said, "If your kid needs a hero or a role model and you ain't it, then you're both fucked.". He was right.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 02, 2024 12:16 PM (cRrcX)

87 78 65 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,”

If you don't vote Biden you ain't rural.
I don't believe Biden could pronounce rural.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 12:11 PM (xcrUy)

———

Biden has been a DC denizen for over 50 years. Thinking he is close to rural people is ridiculous.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 02, 2024 12:16 PM (++4z6)

88 82 I wouldn't trust bai-din ti pick eggs in a chicken house.
Posted by: Eromero

I wouldn't trust him to be alone with any barnyard animal, although it might be best to keep him in a locked pen with an absorbent bedding.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 02, 2024 12:17 PM (sgLUP)

89 You know who else had rural roots?
Joe Stalin

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 12:18 PM (fwDg9)

90 The best therapy? No therapy.

-
Not tire iron therapy?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:14 PM (FVME7)

My dad used to employ “the strap” when I got out of line as a kid. If I gave lip to my mom, for example, off came his belt and a few thwacks across my backside were an effective form of therapy. My recidivism rate for specific offenses was very small!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 02, 2024 12:18 PM (xT8gx)

91 "Scranton had 126,000 people in 1950, and 76,000 now.

The Biden Curse strikes again!"
*************
There was still a viable coal mining industry in Scranton and Wilkes-Barre in 1950. After that died out there's been not much going in the area.

Posted by: Cosda at March 02, 2024 12:18 PM (9qeXR)

92 Biden is like Hemingway except with no talent. France claims Hemingway, Spain claims him, and then there is Cuba and Florida. There are other places as well. When someone has talent, everyone claims you.

Biden is from Deleware, Scranton, and obviously, DC. he claims a lot of other places too, right? But they never claim him.

We are up against the brain dead of 45% that will legitimately vote for a dead horse if they have to appease them because they root against the Cowboys only because they are Redskins fans, nothing will change that.

What kills me about? Biden is his ass stuffed shirt that even Obama used to make fun of. he fell into this and all of his party has pretend this is simply normal, and he is something great when he couldn’t be less.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 12:19 PM (LX56V)

93 Am I the only one who thinks all these conservative commentators are far too optimistic about the Fani/Sweetdick trial?

I keep remembering how, 4 years ago, I was "corrected" for predicting a massive steal on election day. That even happened here - many regulars were confident the courts would never let it happen.

There is no branch of government that rises even to mere hostility toward us. They are our bitter enemies.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 02, 2024 12:25 PM (1bNHn)

94 We Asked 11 Famous Politicians What Their Favorite Bible Verse Was, And Here's What They Said

https://tinyurl.com/3zp4nkne

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:25 PM (FVME7)

95 I think at best Fani will get tossed and the trial will go on
The Trump derailment must go on

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 12:27 PM (fwDg9)

96 This is a serious question.

Are parents allowed to spank their kids now a days?

Posted by: Dave at March 02, 2024 12:27 PM (QB+5g)

97 About That Poll (NY Times). Trump is winning 97% of those who say they voted for him four years ago. In contrast, Mr. Biden is winning only 83% of his 2020 voters, with 10 percent saying they now back Mr. Trump.

That suggests that the main reason Biden is trailing is that his supporters have not come home yet. It makes some sense. Trump has been formally running for president since he announced just after the 2022 midterms. Biden has spent this time governing the country. It’s a good bet that Biden’s supporters will ultimately come back to him as the campaign heats up.

too many Americans are used to to being entertained. They expect a candidate to create a sense of excitement. JFK said that people are attracted to a candidate who has "charisma". Biden seems dull to many people.

Trump doesn't have charisma either. But he knows something about show business. He's always in the news. Remember the old hollywood maxim: "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

Unless people are lying, that quote makes it worse not better.I personally find it hard to believe that 10 percent of people who voted for Biden now support Trump.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 02, 2024 12:28 PM (sgLUP)

98 Thank you KT.

That West Coast swing is really modern dance.

And did his Neru jacket.

She is bendy and oh so sexy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 02, 2024 12:28 PM (u82oZ)

99 Biden is from Deleware, Scranton, and obviously, DC. he claims a lot of other places too, right?

I'm also the most devout Catholic who ever lived!

When I was growing up, Sundays were incredibly busy, because I went to Mass at my parish Catholic church, and at the Black Catholic church, and at the Latinx Catholic church, and at the transgender Catholic church, plus many others!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at March 02, 2024 12:28 PM (YAtuc)

100
My daughter married the son of immigrants from the north side of the Mediterranean. He's pretty much an Area 51 believing, lunar landing disbelieving, sort of leftist. If he wasn't a really good mechanic he'd be working at a sandwich shop.

My son married a savant (formerly 'idiot savant' now labelled 'savant syndrome'), who has the incredible ability to read and retain information, but with a barely 100 IQ - if even that. She's a leftist of course, married to Big Brother through her work. NPR is probably on every one of her car radio presets.

So two conservative parents pretty much had their offspring nullified by their marital mate. I have very little if anything to do with either of them anymore. Last talked to my daughter a year ago, my son five years. I just don't need the conflict at this stage in my life. I'd rather go fishing, make great meals, maintain a great home in a great location. Sit around and stew about my offspring's choices? I'll pass. But just passing along my experience.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM)

101 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:25 PM (FVME7)

LOL. I'm waiting for the entire staff of "The Babylon Bee" to get arrested, and not just the one more unfortunate guy who does movie roles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2024 12:29 PM (Ki//m)

102 If you were on the same continent as Washington DC on January 6th, 2021, you are now potentially subject to arrest.

Posted by: The FBI! at March 02, 2024 12:31 PM (YAtuc)

103 Nice vid of West Coast Swing, but it misrepresents the dance. It's a "showcase" which is a rehearsed routine.

The standard WCS competition is a Jack & Jill, in which a leader is randomly paired with a follower, and they dance to two randomly chosen song excerpts.

Like this (also from BudaFest):

https://tinyurl.com/mrxpbw7m

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 02, 2024 12:32 PM (bo7UB)

104 The press release alone from the Department of Education no less shows us all how bad writing has gotten.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 02, 2024 12:32 PM (m6dV4)

105 There are people who are legitimately insane, but they don't need therapists. They need confinement.

Virtually everyone else's problems derive from the same source: boredom. And droning on about them with some nerd in a suit won't fix that. Find something else to do with your spare time, or change your life up, or whatever. You're just bored, and boring. Be less bored, and be less boring. It'll all clear up.

Posted by: YD, Therapist at March 02, 2024 12:33 PM (0FoWg)

106 96 This is a serious question.

Are parents allowed to spank their kids now a days?
Posted by: Dave

Legally, it's okay in most states to a limited degree. Can't leave marks, cause injury, be excessive, etc. Societal norms wise, if filmed in public, there's certainly a high chance it could go viral and have severe negative ramifications.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 02, 2024 12:33 PM (sgLUP)

107 I think Viva Frei on the Fani Willis trial is not only very smart, but very entertaining.Frei on possible disqualification as well as the unbelievable stupidity of the leftist lawyer supporting someone in the mix. About 20minute video:

https://tinyurl.com/48h6bd3z

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2024 12:33 PM (Ki//m)

108 >>>Judas Priest was so fucking awesome it practically beggars belief. I know they're not a band that's escaped people's notice - but they're still underrated. Halford, in particular. A prodigious talent. Writing, playing, singing, the works. Just top-tier.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

>Wow, you must be old. Now do Paganini.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2024 12:34 PM (EEgXH)

109 I'm also the most devout Catholic who ever lived!

During the week, I'd argue Catholic theology with the priests at Archmere Academy, where I went to school.

They were all agreed that my knowledge of Catholic theology was far greater than theirs!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at March 02, 2024 12:34 PM (YAtuc)

110 They were all agreed that my knowledge of Catholic theology was far greater than theirs!

Why, they didn't even realize that abortion and "gender-affirming surgery" were sacraments!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at March 02, 2024 12:36 PM (YAtuc)

111 The best therapy? No therapy.

-
Not tire iron therapy?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:14 PM (FVME7)

My dad used to employ “the strap” when I got out of line as a kid. If I gave lip to my mom, for example, off came his belt and a few thwacks across my backside were an effective form of therapy. My recidivism rate for specific offenses was very small!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 02, 2024 12:18 PM (xT8gx)
***

Dad used the belt or an open hand.
My mom would grab whatever was handy, and I hated this one metal spoon she had in the kitchen. I finally "lost it" once when i used it digging for worms to go fishing.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 02, 2024 12:36 PM (W/lyH)

112 Fastball delivered, University of Maryland professor and co-author of just-released White Rural Rage: The Threat To American Democracy

He's actually at University of Maryland Baltimore College - the safety school for kids who can't get into University of Maryland.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 02, 2024 12:37 PM (9Ct4Z)

113 The meme, I think, says so much. It says:

2024: School will be closed due to high winds.

1983: Tornado happening. Go in the hall and put a book over your head. Also we are having pizza for lunch.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 02, 2024 12:37 PM (m6dV4)

114 If you were on the same continent as Washington DC on January 6th, 2021, you are now potentially subject to arrest.
Posted by: The FBI! at March 02, 2024 12:31 PM (YAtuc)

I’m mostly serious when I say that sometimes I think the mere act of posting opinions here might earn someone a visit from the FBI….. If they had more staff it would be happening

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 02, 2024 12:37 PM (xT8gx)

115 There is no branch of government that rises even to mere hostility toward us. They are our bitter enemies.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 02, 2024 12:25 PM (1bNHn)

Yup...ain't nothing gonna happen to Fanny.

Be tender with my love
You know how easy it is to hurt me
Fanny, be tender with my love
'Cause it's all that I've got
And my love won't desert me...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 02, 2024 12:37 PM (R/m4+)

116 10O, that is fair comment look I understand that good conservative rays, leftist children it happens. I don’t have kids, so who am I to say anything?

I just know the life I grew up in with my parents. By the way, my dad was a Marine Corps officer, think of the movie the great Santini, other than all the drama and bad stuff. Our lives were idyllic really. But I can’t think of a time, when my father or mother told me what to think politically, but also, there was never a time I wasn’t a hard-core conservative.

I take pride that when I was in third grade, our school voted on Carter versus Ford in 76 and in our school Ford won big time. I wasn’t a subservient kid I love to explore, and I even gotten some trouble only was exploring and nothing else. But I never thought of being anything else, but a conservative, which has been who I’ve always been my entire life. Neither my mother or father told me to do so but for sure the way they live their lives influenced me.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 12:39 PM (LX56V)

117 I’m mostly serious when I say that sometimes I think the mere act of posting opinions here might earn someone a visit from the FBI….. If they had more staff it would be happening

I think that if Biden "wins" again, you're going to see the arrests of many prominent conservatives in the days after Election Day.

It's like the Nazis waiting for the Enabling Act to pass.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 12:40 PM (YAtuc)

118 >>>Sit around and stew about my offspring's choices? I'll pass. But just passing along my experience.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM
————
DBZ, you are so right. I wish my wife would accept that. Me, like the scene out of the movie The Milagro Beanfield War. I wake up…look around and breathe a sigh of relief.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 02, 2024 12:42 PM (8e0w3)

119 He's actually at University of Maryland Baltimore College - the safety school for kids who can't get into University of Maryland.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 02, 2024 12:37 PM (9Ct4Z)

And Waldman. Why is he dumping so much hate on people not like himself?

Posted by: GOP sux at March 02, 2024 12:42 PM (Zzbjj)

120 111 I was in the go out back and cut me a switch for your beating crowd. Back then, boys had pocket knives.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 02, 2024 12:43 PM (0EOe9)

121 Biden has spent this time filling his depends. It’s a good bet that Biden’s supporters will ultimately riot and burn stuff.

Posted by: AI Commentator at March 02, 2024 12:44 PM (vFG9F)

122 It looks like "western swing" but doesn't sound like it. Very enjoyable except they're dressed so oddly it's distracting.

Posted by: GWB at March 02, 2024 12:44 PM (ANsAt)

123 ----Why is he dumping so much hate on people not like himself? ----

Leftist academics and middle school mean girls have the same model of social hierarchy

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 02, 2024 12:44 PM (9Ct4Z)

124 >>>I’m mostly serious when I say that sometimes I think the mere act of posting opinions here might earn someone a visit from the FBI….. If they had more staff it would be happening

I think that if Biden "wins" again, you're going to see the arrests of many prominent conservatives in the days after Election Day.

It's like the Nazis waiting for the Enabling Act to pass.

Posted by: The ARC of History!

>I will welcome them with open arms much like I welcome border jumpers looking to pick my crops and tend to my landscaping.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 02, 2024 12:45 PM (EEgXH)

125 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,” but whatever — then Schaller read off small town America’s charge sheet: rural whites, he said, are the most “racist,” “xenophobic,” “anti-immigrant and anti-gay,” “conspiracist,” “anti-democratic,” they “don’t believe in an independent press or free speech,” and are “most likely to accept or excuse violence,” for starters.
______

I happen to agree with them about Biden's faults, but really it's unfair to think just because Joe Biden has these faults that it applies to rural whites.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 12:45 PM (fs1hN)

126 Not saying this should be the goal but the reason urban black American pre teens kids often live the life of an adult is because they aren’t babied. It’s a reductio ad Absurdum example but we need to go back to the sweet spot of raising kids.

The recent videos of Dad’s letting their boys be boys and especially the one of the tractor kid tell me we are on the right track.

Dad’s are responsible to teach kid’s to be able to handle the hard stuff in life . Mom’s are there to nurture. Somehow the pendulum swung all the way over to just nurture.

Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 12:46 PM (MNhXM)

127 This is a serious question.

Are parents allowed to spank their kids now a days?
Posted by: Dave

The mental health industry is out of control and was a money loser until they wormed their way into education. Yes, there was a need, but for about 2% of the population. But now, as a quasi government agency, and like typical government, they had to shoe
horn everyone into the same shoe.
Discipline at home??? Don't you dare tread onto their turf. These clowns are right out of the Stalin area.
And the hell of it, the few counselors I know admit it.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 02, 2024 12:47 PM (W/lyH)

128 I’m mostly serious when I say that sometimes I think the mere act of posting opinions here might earn someone a visit from the FBI….. If they had more staff it would be happening
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
_____

We're stuffing the omnibus with loads of additional funding for the FBI.
-Probably half of the GOP caucus

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 12:48 PM (fs1hN)

129 Now do Paganini.
Paganini was responsible for orchestras tuning to A=440 cycles. Or so I've read. It made his particular violin (The Cannon) really sing.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 02, 2024 12:48 PM (MeG8a)

130 A lot of this crap started with the first "guidance counselor" in schools.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 02, 2024 12:49 PM (0EOe9)

131 Mornin'/Afternoon all.
Just having Breakfast: home-made refried beans, chorizo and eggs, corn tortillas.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

132 > I think that if Biden "wins" again, you're going to see the arrests of many prominent conservatives in the days after Election Day.
_____________

Some of the more rabid leftist commentators have already started to suggest just that.

I think that if several prominent Republicans currently in office get pinched and tossed in prison the GOP may (or may not) wake from its stupor and grow a pair.

There is an undercurrent from Democrats that they really do want to rid themselves of Republicans and conservatives in general. They very well may kick off a concerted effort to imprison as many of their opponents and those nominally opposed to them if/when they steal the next "election."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 12:49 PM (Q4IgG)

133 The dancing is good therapy.

I wish I could learn to dance like that.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 02, 2024 12:49 PM (JGlUB)

134 Fastball delivered, University of Maryland professor and co-author of just-released White Rural Rage: The Threat To American Democracy
……

If you look up Projection in the dictionary they would refer you to this book.

Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 12:49 PM (MNhXM)

135
I think that if Biden "wins" again, you're going to see the arrests of many prominent conservatives in the days after Election Day.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 12:40 PM

I'll be more concerned with what he does after the election after being massively repudiated by nearly 50 states. The Supreme Court will soon decide if he can get away with pardoning himself and the other members of the Biden Crime Syndicate while still in office. It's going to be an interesting and unprecedented period of time.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:50 PM (RKVpM)

136 "125 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,” but whatever — then Schaller read off small town America’s charge sheet: rural whites, he said, are the most “racist,” “xenophobic,” “anti-immigrant and anti-gay,” “conspiracist,” “anti-democratic,” they “don’t believe in an independent press or free speech,” and are “most likely to accept or excuse violence,” for starters."
______
New Yorkers do consider Scranton to be hicksville if not exactly rural. Most rural areas would not accept or excuse the level of violence we see in the big urban areas.

Posted by: Cosda at March 02, 2024 12:51 PM (9qeXR)

137 Just follow the shiny pendulum with your eyes as it swings back and forth.

Chris Murphy 🟧
@ChrisMurphyCT
There is no crime surge caused by migrants. It's 100% made up. A right wing invention.
Violent crime is WAY DOWN. The drop in urban murders this year was the largest in the nation's history.
And data shows that migrants commit crimes at rate LOWER than those born here.

-
There is no crime surge caused by migrants. It's 100% made up. A right wing invention.

There is no crime surge caused by migrants. It's 100% made up. A right wing invention.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

138 128 I’m mostly serious when I say that sometimes I think the mere act of posting opinions here might earn someone a visit from the FBI….. If they had more staff it would be happening
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
_____

We're stuffing the omnibus with loads of additional funding for the FBI.
-Probably half of the GOP caucus

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 12:48 PM (fs1hN)

I'm probably on more than a few lists. Decade or so ago, I was telling my wife how they were probably listening in on ever cell call and reading every text (well, at least computers were parsing). Used several keywords I thought at the time they'd be listening to. I guess I was wrong about Jihad and Alahu Snackbar.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

139 96 This is a serious question.

Are parents allowed to spank their kids now a days?

Posted by: Dave at March 02, 2024 12:27 PM (QB+5g)

Not in Kalifornia. If word gets out, CPS can be called, which can lead to losing your kids...to a foster home where they'll be diddled by their gay hosts and told they're the wrong "gender".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

140 And data shows that migrants commit crimes at rate LOWER than those born here.
____

Sleight of hand. He's counting legal immigrants in the 'migrants' number.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 12:53 PM (fs1hN)

141 137 There is no crime surge caused by migrants. Turn in your guns at the designated drop off, colonizer.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 02, 2024 12:53 PM (0EOe9)

142 Now do Paganini.
Paganini was responsible for orchestras tuning to A=440 cycles. Or so I've read. It made his particular violin (The Cannon) really sing.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

He sold his soul to the Devil for violin virtuosity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:54 PM (FVME7)

143 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

1984 is their instruction manual.

Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 12:54 PM (MNhXM)

144 147: Chris Murphy needs to author a bill abolishing CBP given that he believes it’s cool to just stroll across the border and that he is VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY UPSET that passports/visas ARE checked at the border.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 02, 2024 12:54 PM (m6dV4)

145 135
I think that if Biden "wins" again, you're going to see the arrests of many prominent conservatives in the days after Election Day.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 02, 2024 12:40 PM

I'll be more concerned with what he does after the election after being massively repudiated by nearly 50 states. The Supreme Court will soon decide if he can get away with pardoning himself and the other members of the Biden Crime Syndicate while still in office. It's going to be an interesting and unprecedented period of time.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:50 PM (RKVpM)

He doesn't need Congress; he can do what he did with Student Loans, SCOTUS be damned.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

146 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

Ain't that pretty much what Brandon said last week?

Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2024 12:55 PM (AwYPR)

147 137
...

There is no crime surge caused by migrants. It's 100% made up. A right wing invention.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 02, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

True. It's caused by Illegal Immigrants.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

148 And they are MIGRANTS, not “illegal aliens”. They are SWEETHEARTS and infinitely better than the disgusting citizenry we have to put up with. They forfeited our confidence. Fuck them.

Posted by: U.S. govenment at March 02, 2024 12:56 PM (m6dV4)

149 148 And they are MIGRANTS, not “illegal aliens”. They are SWEETHEARTS and infinitely better than the disgusting citizenry we have to put up with. They forfeited our confidence. Fuck them.

Posted by: U.S. govenment at March 02, 2024 12:56 PM (m6dV4)

Compared to most in US Gov't, that is a true statement: sweethearts.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

150 I’m watching a King of the Hill episode from 1998 called Junkie Business that addresses exactly what we are talking about . This crap has been going on for over 25 years.

Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 12:58 PM (MNhXM)

151 This one made me puddle up. The human carnage is incalculable.
10 year old boy found abandoned in the desert.
Link goes to Instagram.

https://tinyurl.com/3apveanc

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 02, 2024 12:59 PM (MeG8a)

152 UPDATE
Thought for the day:
You can whine, bitch, kvetch and moan all you want but you have to admit Yoko Ono's singing back in the day DID in fact make John's vocals sound "better."

Mux
the muck raking Mudder Mukker

Posted by: Ray Mota at March 02, 2024 12:59 PM (sw3xv)

153 Americans are teased so poorly that is almost impossible to try to explain something to them. They say they’re going to leave the country if Trump wins so go for it. Where the hell do these people think they’re going to go? I know they all think they’re going to France or Italy, but nothing could be further from the truth.

Americans have been mentally abused when it comes to history and civics. Reality is none of those countries want you and they will not let you in. They all think America has this incredible burden where they have to let every person who comes in illegally in. France won’t do that, Italy won’t do that, hell Mexico won’t do that and if you think I’m joking, just try them.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:00 PM (LX56V)

154 152 UPDATE
Thought for the day:
You can whine, bitch, kvetch and moan all you want but you have to admit Yoko Ono's singing back in the day DID in fact make John's vocals sound "better."

Mux
the muck raking Mudder Mukker

Posted by: Ray Mota at March 02, 2024 12:59 PM (sw3xv)

Mark David Chapman was aiming for Yoko Ono and missed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

155 "Where the hell do these people think they’re going to go? "

Many already hold multiple passports.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 02, 2024 01:02 PM (MeG8a)

156 And data shows that migrants commit crimes at rate LOWER than those born here.
____

Sleight of hand. He's counting legal immigrants in the 'migrants' number.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 12:53 PM (fs1hN)

And even though his stat is sleight of hand he is also helped by the crime rate of a certain sector of American born citizens . Also his parameter gets to ignore children born here of illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 01:02 PM (MNhXM)

157 These same people vote for democrats to make the rich pay their fair shaaaaaare.

Roughly 25,000 cases involve taxpayers who made over $1 million in income, while around 100,000 pertain to non-filers with incomes between $400,000 and $1 million.

In all cases, the IRS was tipped off by way of third-party information, including through Forms W-2 and 1099s, that these people received incomes within the above ranges between tax years 2017 and 2021.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 02, 2024 01:03 PM (N3GIM)

158 He and Mika first complained rural voters should be supporting Joe Biden, given his roots — you’d have to be pretty high to call Scranton “rural,” but whatever — then Schaller read off small town America’s charge sheet: rural whites, he said, are the most “racist,” “xenophobic,” “anti-immigrant and anti-gay,” “conspiracist,” “anti-democratic,” they “don’t believe in an independent press or free speech,” and are “most likely to accept or excuse violence,” for starters."

They've never actually been in any rural communities, have they?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 01:03 PM (xcrUy)

159 If you were talking illegal immigrants, it is at least been 50 years if not 100. The people on the Texas border in the Rio Grande Valley have thick skin because they’ve been dealing with this forever. Trump said he was going to do something, but he was stopped by the rest of the country. At least he wanted to do it.

But basically, no, Republican or Democrat has been willing to stop the border surge. It is sick that most Americans think this is an Americ problem they don’t know that they’re pouring into Spain, Italy, etc. They don’t know Turks are pouring into Germany. But they all think they’re going to move to some Rando country like New Zealand as if that country will take them and they will not

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:03 PM (LX56V)

160 Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 02, 2024 01:04 PM (9UlRk)

161 157 These same people vote for democrats to make the rich pay their fair shaaaaaare.

Roughly 25,000 cases involve taxpayers who made over $1 million in income, while around 100,000 pertain to non-filers with incomes between $400,000 and $1 million.

In all cases, the IRS was tipped off by way of third-party information, including through Forms W-2 and 1099s, that these people received incomes within the above ranges between tax years 2017 and 2021.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 02, 2024 01:03 PM (N3GIM)

One year I accidentally put the same, large W-2 in my tax forms twice. Got an IRS nasty-gram saying I owed $20K in taxes. Of course, at first you see a letter saying something like that, it's "Wut! Holy Shieser!". Sent a letter back explaining that is was a DUPLICATE W-2, and a month or two later got a reply that the case was closed and I didn't owe anything. Phew!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

162 >>> Americans have been mentally abused when it comes to
------------------------

The Greatfull Dead, just waiting to hear how bad they screw up Fire on the Mountain. - Well, they just got to it, I guess. Thankfully they put the title on something uniquely their own.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 02, 2024 01:06 PM (Qzt2z)

163 155 I seriously doubt that. Are we caulking illegal immigrants or we talking leftists? I’ve only met a few people in my life that hold multiple passports, and most of them were really rich, white South Africans they could buy a passport from Mirando African country. The illegal holds pretty much no passport and any American that thinks they’re going to just move abroad because they hate Trump is in for a serious wake up call. The reality is no one wants them and they’re not going to take them in.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:06 PM (LX56V)

164 163 155 I seriously doubt that. Are we caulking illegal immigrants or we talking leftists? I’ve only met a few people in my life that hold multiple passports, and most of them were really rich, white South Africans they could buy a passport from Mirando African country. The illegal holds pretty much no passport and any American that thinks they’re going to just move abroad because they hate Trump is in for a serious wake up call. The reality is no one wants them and they’re not going to take them in.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:06 PM (LX56V)

Is caulking Illegals illegal? I wouldn't spackle them either.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

165 Rainy day
Dream away
No use in getting up tight
Just let it groove its own way

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:08 PM (fwDg9)

166 Great. Lets add 50,000 new therapists who will diagnose kids with PTSD because dad took the phone away for an hour. Then make the PTSD the defining event of the childs life, and she forever has PTSD and requires weekly therapy, multiple medications, and special treatment and accommodations in all things because she has PTSD. And will never ever ever ever ever ever get past it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 02, 2024 01:08 PM (N3GIM)

167 > ChrisMurphyCT
There is no crime surge caused by migrants. It's 100% made up. A right wing invention.
____________

Wonder how he'd feel if one of these cultural enrichers, a newcomer, killed/raped/tortured his wife or kids?

Because I honestly think that's what it will take for the left to realize what they've unleashed on the country. They need to be "inconvenienced" by it all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 01:08 PM (Q4IgG)

168 163 I've seen interviews with the invaders, and most have a scrap of paper with a phone number to call when they hit the streets paved with gold. No Documentos.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 02, 2024 01:09 PM (0EOe9)

169 Since the Klinton Admin, it's been legal for American citizens to hold passports with other countries. I believe it was done so that Madeleine Albright could be ¿President? in another country.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

170 164, clever. Now refute what I said. I already told the whore that I am using a talk to text app and it doesn’t work very well. Look, I get jokes, but at the same time, do you have something interesting to say?

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:10 PM (LX56V)

171 I can't cure your mental health condition. All I can do is prescribe you medications and talk to you about it weekly so it stays an open festering wound. Now pay me.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 02, 2024 01:10 PM (N3GIM)

172 167 > ChrisMurphyCT
There is no crime surge caused by migrants. It's 100% made up. A right wing invention.
____________

Wonder how he'd feel if one of these cultural enrichers, a newcomer, killed/raped/tortured his wife or kids?

Because I honestly think that's what it will take for the left to realize what they've unleashed on the country. They need to be "inconvenienced" by it all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 01:08 PM (Q4IgG)

Indeed. Texas and Florida should ship a few to his ZIP.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

173 Lovely dance, lovely tune.

Thanks for sharing your experience Divide by Zero.

As always, I recommend homeschooling. Would love to see public schools dismantled and parents form co-ops to teach basic subjects from shared values.

Teaching isn't done in a vacuum and the teacher's values and the curriculum writer's values will come thru and may or may not be shared by the parents.

May God increase parents' love for their children that they will devote themselves to the upbringing of their children, that they see it as their most important work and actively pursue the best methods to do so.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 02, 2024 01:11 PM (S5+ge)

174
I’m watching a King of the Hill episode from 1998 called Junkie Business that addresses exactly what we are talking about . This crap has been going on for over 25 years.

Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 12:58 PM

I'd go back even further then that - the movie 'Dog Day Afternoon' (1975) was about a bank robbery to pay for a sex change operation. The movie 'Car Wash' (1976) has a terrorist, a convert to Islam, a prostitute, a cross-dresser, and other assorted misfits.

Hollywood has been pushing the ball toward the goal-line for nearly half a century. Obama pushed it within a few inches, now they handed the ball to the demented quarterback and hope he runs in the right direction.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 01:11 PM (RKVpM)

175 >>> Chris Murphy needs to author a bill abolishing CBP given that he believes it’s cool to just stroll across the border and that he is VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY UPSET that passports/visas ARE checked at the border.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

They only check passports at established 'ports of entry'.
They also do customs and agricultural inspections at POE too.

And it's not that they are just waving people through at other location - those CBP are helping hold down the concertina wire and other physical barriers, handing out fruit baskets, teddy bears, and soccer balls.... and parole papers, notice to appear years in the future at unspecified loacations, gift cards, and transporation to remote corners of the country.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 02, 2024 01:11 PM (cOq4q)

176 170 164, clever. Now refute what I said. I already told the whore that I am using a talk to text app and it doesn’t work very well. Look, I get jokes, but at the same time, do you have something interesting to say?

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:10 PM (LX56V)

Twas a joke, man. Take it easy. Chill. Have a beer. Get an ice cream.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

177 >>> One year I accidentally put the same, large W-2 in my tax forms twice. Got an IRS nasty-gram saying I owed $20K in taxes. Of course, at first you see a letter saying something like that, it's "Wut! Holy Shieser!". Sent a letter back explaining that is was a DUPLICATE W-2, and a month or two later got a reply that the case was closed and I didn't owe anything. Phew!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
--------------------------------

Got one of those letters, had to do a re-do. Came out that I owed them more money. I went in with the form and the cash. Right then she went over my form and in not pleasant terms told me my figures were incorrect and loudly explained my errors. Then said that I would receive my refund in the mail.
whew

Posted by: Braenyard at March 02, 2024 01:13 PM (Qzt2z)

178 No worries Jim I just got a few too many of those all at once. This app sucks. I wish I could type and do better.

Sorry if I came off hot there

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:13 PM (LX56V)

179 Great. Lets add 50,000 new therapists who will diagnose kids with PTSD because dad took the phone away for an hour. Then make the PTSD the defining event of the childs life, and she forever has PTSD and requires weekly therapy, multiple medications, and special treatment and accommodations in all things because she has PTSD. And will never ever ever ever ever ever get past it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 02, 2024 01:08 PM (N3GIM)

I don't work with kids, and of course there are plenty of cases of real PTSD. It's like everything else though, when terms get into the vernacular, people misuse the term.

What I tend to see in adults is the real thing, and generally when I hear what they experienced as children, I can see why the trauma carries into their adult lives.

The problem with people who self-diagnose though, just like when you hear people say they're "bipolar," more often than not, anyone going around telling you they have it, what they really have is a personality disorder.

Now, PTSD and POs often go hand in hand, but if they're telling you about it, it's a manifestation of the PO.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2024 01:15 PM (GtZ7X)

180 178 No worries Jim I just got a few too many of those all at once. This app sucks. I wish I could type and do better.

Sorry if I came off hot there

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:13 PM (LX56V)

No probs. I've had a shitty year so far, so I understand. Gotta run anyway. Have a good day.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 02, 2024 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

181 Keep your .380 close, your 1911 closer. The buses are running and their drop off is where you live.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 02, 2024 01:16 PM (0EOe9)

182 You as well have a good one

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:16 PM (LX56V)

183 One need look no further than:

Rachel Levine - American professor of pediatrics and psychiatry; United States Assistant Secretary for Health

To grasp the extent of the problem.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2024 01:17 PM (XeU6L)

184 Trump swept MO GOP caucuses today.

You're all welcome!

Best wishes,

The Show Me State

Posted by: mnw at March 02, 2024 01:18 PM (NLIak)

185
https://tinyurl.com/3apveanc
Posted by: gourmand du jour

===============

Sickening, heartbreaking. Of course we'll never know who "they" are who left him behind.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 02, 2024 01:19 PM (lCaJd)

186 Sit around and stew about my offspring's choices? I'll pass. But just passing along my experience.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM
————
DBZ, you are so right. I wish my wife would accept that

I think it is harder for women to accept that, which is why we need a good man to encourage us to let it go and live a good life.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 02, 2024 01:20 PM (S5+ge)

187 And even though his stat is sleight of hand he is also helped by the crime rate of a certain sector of American born citizens . Also his parameter gets to ignore children born here of illegal immigrants.
Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 01:02 PM (MNhXM)

How can you say with a straight face, that Illegal Immigrants commit LESS crime, when just the fact they are in our country, means they are a criminal who broke our laws?

Every... single... fucking... one... Illegal Immigrants are by definition, 100% Lawbreakers.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 02, 2024 01:20 PM (xaFKb)

188 Better go outside and see if it's still raining 🌧

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:21 PM (fwDg9)

189 We can have all the PTSD in the world, but if the other country say so we’re going to have to fight. From my understanding, the army says they’re not capable of fighting anymore they don’t have the numbers.

About 10 years ago, the army gave up using the grenade course for basic training. The argument was young men today didn’t grow up throwing rocks etc.. They were always playing video games and the drill instructors spent way too much time teaching them just to throw something so it wasn’t worth it.

I don’t think the Chinese or Russians have that problem.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:21 PM (LX56V)

190
How can you say with a straight face, that Illegal Immigrants commit LESS crime, when just the fact they are in our country, means they are a criminal who broke our laws?

Every... single... fucking... one... Illegal Immigrants are by definition, 100% Lawbreakers.

Yep, all of this.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 02, 2024 01:23 PM (S5+ge)

191 Sit around and stew about my offspring's choices? I'll pass. But just passing along my experience.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 12:29 PM (RKVpM
————
DBZ, you are so right. I wish my wife would accept that

I think it is harder for women to accept that, which is why we need a good man to encourage us to let it go and live a good life.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 02, 2024 01:20 PM (S5+ge)

All too common an experience. Obviously when one throws in the indoctrination that comes with schooling, it's a crap shoot if your children will turn out alright.

Sad to say, but there it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2024 01:24 PM (GtZ7X)

192 Trump swept MO GOP caucuses today.

He must have done quite well, to call it this early.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 02, 2024 01:24 PM (S5+ge)

193 >>> They were always playing video games and the drill instructors spent way too much time teaching them just to throw something so it wasn’t worth it.

We can just recruit Dominicans.

Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 01:24 PM (86W+h)

194 185
https://tinyurl.com/3apveanc
Posted by: gourmand du jour

===============

Sickening, heartbreaking. Of course we'll never know who "they" are who left him behind.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Thing is.

A majority of stuff posted on Instagram is fake and staged. It's sad if the story is true. But I don't believe it is. It's probably an op to make illegal immigrants look like they are all victims.

Deport every one of them. Even the kids born here if their parents are here illegally.

All of them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 02, 2024 01:26 PM (+zMHf)

195 >>> Trump swept MO GOP caucuses today.
He must have done quite well, to call it this early.

Not many want to support Nikki publicly, apparently.

Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 01:26 PM (86W+h)

196
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 02, 2024 12:28 PM (sgLUP)

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It looks to me like their confidence is waning.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 02, 2024 01:27 PM (lCaJd)

197 Sleight of hand. He's counting legal immigrants in the 'migrants' number.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 02, 2024 12:53 PM (fs1hN)

And even though his stat is sleight of hand he is also helped by the crime rate of a certain sector of American born citizens . Also his parameter gets to ignore children born here of illegal immigrants.
Posted by: Alizarin Crimson at March 02, 2024 01:02 PM (MNhXM)

No, sorry, there's no "even though." The stats are COMPLETELY COOKED by trying to factor in legal immigrants.

The actual numbers, those that are gathered for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS show numbers that are staggeringly higher than any grouping of people who are legal residents in this country.

Including those groups you're hinting at.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2024 01:27 PM (GtZ7X)

198
We can just recruit Dominicans.
Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 01:24 PM (86W+h)
—————-
ISWYDT

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 02, 2024 01:27 PM (8e0w3)

199 I know I mentioned this weeks ago, but it bears repeating; while at the DMV over 3/4 of the people there were Hispanics. Most every one of them had the same piece of paper, filled out by computer; "Application for Driver's License." Some had the "Resident" card given to them by the Feds that (get this) allows them to obtain a "Real ID" license.

And it's not "just" the Hispanics. The Chinese and Middle Eastern single men who flooded over the border by the thousands get one of those "Resident" cards too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 01:28 PM (Q4IgG)

200 Still is

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:28 PM (fwDg9)

201 And it's not "just" the Hispanics. The Chinese and Middle Eastern single men who flooded over the border by the thousands get one of those "Resident" cards too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 01:28 PM (Q4IgG)

But nobody's trying to replace you. No. Saying so is rayciss.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 02, 2024 01:29 PM (GtZ7X)

202 I dunno, I don't cry easily and if that kid was faking it he did a helluva acting job...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 02, 2024 01:30 PM (MeG8a)

203 No doubt he is afraid, he's 10 and shouldn't be anywhere near there

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:30 PM (fwDg9)

204
A 97-year-old family drycleaning business closed in my little town. Rising costs and decreased foot traffic. I get the rising costs, but I can't figure what the decreased foot traffic is all about. I guess people aren't just out driving around and running errands anymore?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 02, 2024 01:32 PM (lCaJd)

205 GARDEN NOOD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9)

206 Garden NOOD.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 02, 2024 01:33 PM (R4t5M)

207 >>> A 97-year-old family drycleaning business closed in my little town. Rising costs and decreased foot traffic.

Remote and hybrid work environments changed our wardrobes.

Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 01:34 PM (86W+h)

208 Dry cleaning businesses got in the crosshairs of the environmental movement some time ago. Plus, if I recall you are in CA (as am I) and CA is especially tough on these types of small businesses.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 02, 2024 01:35 PM (MeG8a)

209
Deport every one of them. Even the kids born here if their parents are here illegally.

All of them.
Posted by: nurse ratched

============

The thing is, I wouldn't put it past these caravans to abandon a little kid, so it's believable to me.

I also agree 100% that EVERY ONE of them should be deported, and if they have citizen-kids, they'll have to take the kids with them or find foster parents in the US. And end birthright citizenship.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 02, 2024 01:36 PM (lCaJd)

210 107 Thank you Fen, that was enjoyable!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 02, 2024 01:38 PM (w6EFb)

211 If Joe Scarborough has experienced hate in a small town he needs to remember that he is, after all, Joe Scarborough. What does he expect?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 01:38 PM (xcrUy)

212
And it's not "just" the Hispanics. The Chinese and Middle Eastern single men who flooded over the border by the thousands get one of those "Resident" cards too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 02, 2024 01:28 PM

The last time I was at the DMV in a 'Main Line' neighborhood (snotty Pennsylvania area outside of Philadelphia) it was like being in a 3rd world country. The outlier was an Amish couple and my wife and I. I heard very little English being spoken. It was all very hushed tones, like a criminal conspiracy at work.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 02, 2024 01:39 PM (RKVpM)

213 Deport every one of them. Even the kids born here if their parents are here illegally.

All of them.

I agree that this should be done. I'm glad PDT is talking about it. It should be done like Bukele rounded up the gang members in El Salvador. The disruption to families seeking a better life will be sad but necessary. I do think that many illegals are coming as an invading army that must be taken out.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 02, 2024 01:42 PM (S5+ge)

214
gourmand, Yes, I'm in Cali. I'm aware of all the difficulties small businesses in Cali face, and the supposed evils of dry cleaning solvents.

fluffy, I admit, I strenuously avoid buying anything that says "Dry Clean Only."

And the owner is right about the foot traffic, although I still don't quite get it. I go for a walk on weekends and it looks like a ghost town -- although it isn't one. People just aren't out walking and cruising around? I guess we got used to cocooning, sheltering, distancing, isolating, etc. Weird. It's considered a scenic, touristic place.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 02, 2024 01:42 PM (lCaJd)

215 This generation will be eaten alive.

Gen. Solent Green.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 02, 2024 01:43 PM (7leMO)

216 There's already a bunch of families here seeking a better life.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 02, 2024 01:45 PM (9UlRk)

217 I just had this weird feeling that for some reason young Americans think it is normal to just show up in the country and say well here I am. I knew when I grew up, you couldn’t move to Germany or France or Japan, unless you had some extreme skill that none of their own people had. I seriously doubt this is changed. In fact, it is probably become worse if possible.

I did meet some Americans working in London but if you saw what their job skills were, you would be surprised. They had extremely specific skills that the Brits could use to help Britain. It is weird that they work that way. I honestly believe the biggest issue we have is most Americans are so dumb. They think they can move to any other country, and nothing could be further from the truth. Once they realize that they are not welcome maybe they won’t be so welcoming.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:45 PM (yDe4s)

218 I’m seeking a better life can I go to San Diego in the 1970s?

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:48 PM (yDe4s)

219 Ohhhh, F-1 raced on Saturday in Bahrain because of Ramadan.

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:50 PM (fwDg9)

220 >>> I knew when I grew up, you couldn’t move to Germany or France or Japan, unless you had some extreme skill that none of their own people had.

Japan seems to be exceptional. They have a declining population so they have incentive to bring in young people.

Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 01:50 PM (86W+h)

221 Quint don't forget to wear flowers in your hair

Posted by: Skip at March 02, 2024 01:50 PM (fwDg9)

222 I've come around to thinking that the Scientologists are basically right about the mental-health industry being a bad actor. Most of this neurotic woke shit can be traced back to people being a little bit dysfunctional, going to a shrink to fix what might be wrong, and suddenly they're REALLY dysfunctional and wholly committed to spreading that dysfunction to others.

Posted by: CppThis at March 02, 2024 01:51 PM (PZvjL)

223 221, my understanding is San Diego back, then was pretty dark conservative. I am thinking the TV show Simon and Simon, More than the flower children.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:51 PM (yDe4s)

224 Darn

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:52 PM (yDe4s)

225 Heck, I lived in California in the late 70s in a very right wing area. It was still too lefty for our family. Anyone who says California was conservative. Yes, they had lots of conservatives, but the state itself was already warped that’s for sure.

San Diego has great weather and they always had the military bases. My understanding at least in the early 70s it was a great place to live. There are others I could choose but my point was a lot of the places people like I want to go where in the past. I’m not saying that’s a good way to think but it’s how I think.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 01:56 PM (yDe4s)

226 "Are we caulking illegal immigrants"

For the love of God, Montresor!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 02, 2024 01:59 PM (w6EFb)

227 220, but they will never do that, because Japan is one of the most racist countries in the world. No one calls them out on this because there’s no incentive to do so there are no votes to win by doing so. There is zero chance Americans, or anyone else will move to Japan en masse or be allowed to do so. To think otherwise just did not understand Japanese culture.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 02:01 PM (yDe4s)

228 " I already told the whore that I am using a talk to text app and it doesn’t work very well."

It's working very well! I'm laughing my ass off!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 02, 2024 02:02 PM (w6EFb)

229 228, I will give you the attention you so crave. Do you want to get banned here because keep pushing it with me. But fine you’re making jokes about me to be honest no one else is even paying attention this thread you’re wasting your time dip shit.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 02:04 PM (yDe4s)

230 >>> There is zero chance Americans, or anyone else will move to Japan en masse or be allowed to do so.

En masse, no, but it can be done.

The impression I have is that the government knows the straits they are in, and people acknowledge the issue in the abstract, but not many want to be the employer, neighbor, landlord etc that takes the step.

Posted by: fluffy at March 02, 2024 02:09 PM (86W+h)

231 It is a racist country and I don’t see that lightly. Literally everyone in the international community knows this they just let it go because it’s an island nation. You’re right that they have a dwindling population because they don’t procreate. The last thing they’re going to do is invite other people in I just think many Americans have been taught it is just normal to allow anyone in who wants in and literally every other country that controls its borders thinks otherwise.

Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 02:11 PM (yDe4s)

232 Speaking of mental disorders, my favorite is Tourette's Syndrome.

I'm trying to catch it.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 02, 2024 02:14 PM (CfhNC)

233 The last time I was at the DMV in a 'Main Line' neighborhood (snotty Pennsylvania area outside of Philadelphia) it was like being in a 3rd world country. The outlier was an Amish couple and my wife and I. I heard very little English being spoken. It was all very hushed tones, like a criminal conspiracy at work.

I didn't know you needed a driver's license for a horse and buggy. Sheesh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 02, 2024 02:16 PM (CfhNC)

234 Speaking of mental disorders, my favorite is Tourette's Syndrome.

I'm trying to catch it.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 02, 2024 02:14 PM (CfhNC)

Tourettes is no piss shit treat fuck.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 02:18 PM (xcrUy)

235 It's a cold and snowy day and it's past noon. I'm going for bourbon.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 02, 2024 02:27 PM (xcrUy)

236 >>>It's called The Joe Rogan Experience for a reason. There's nothing like it.
Thank you, @joerogan, for this incredible opportunity.
Abigail Shrier

That was great! Clip here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z72hgYk-5iI

Posted by: m at March 02, 2024 02:37 PM (o3SCB)

237 Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 02:04 PM (yDe4s)

You need to take a break.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 02, 2024 03:03 PM (MNhXM)

238 Posted by: Quint at March 02, 2024 02:04 PM (yDe4s)
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Not cool.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 02, 2024 03:25 PM (RIvkX)

239
I didn't know you needed a driver's license for a horse and buggy. Sheesh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 02, 2024 02:16 PM

It was odd. Now, I may be the worlds worst person for differentiating religious sects, but she was definitely cute as hell - dressed in white and conservatively as possible, and he was as straight laced looking as they come in overalls... but they were on the drivers license side of the DMV.

My wife just told me Mennonite is possible.

Good thing AoS doesn't have a policy on such matters. I'll have to check the ToS again for updates.

Posted by: The Real Marion Barry at March 02, 2024 03:41 PM (RKVpM)

240 >>> How can you say with a straight face, that Illegal Immigrants commit LESS crime, when just the fact they are in our country, means they are a criminal who broke our laws?

Every... single... fucking... one... Illegal Immigrants are by definition, 100% Lawbreakers.
Posted by: Romeo13

The correct term is "illegal alian". An "iimigrant" is one admitted with a valid immigrant class of visa. Any who enter by an means other than presenting for inspection at a point of entry are "illegal aliens".

Illegal aliens are commiting are breaking the law every moment they are here. At best on the level as illegal parking.
If there are ten million illegal aliens here then every day illegal aliens commit ten million crimes as a baseline. It only goes up from there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 02, 2024 04:40 PM (cOq4q)

241 >>> About 10 years ago, the army gave up using the grenade course for basic training. The argument was young men today didn’t grow up throwing rocks etc.. They were always playing video games and the drill instructors spent way too much time teaching them just to throw something so it wasn’t worth it.

Satchel charges.
Closest you can get to bomb belt while pretending its not a suicide bomb. Teach that in basic instead.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 02, 2024 04:44 PM (cOq4q)

242 Sons o bitches Teachers Unions convinced town school boards to shut down schools over covid.

Same sons o bitches AND those school boards scared the bejeesus out of kids , telling them they all will DIE if they get covid.

Sons o bitches finally let kids back into schools, but only if they wear face dipaers that do NOTHING to guard against covid.

THEN the same sons o bitches say school kids are now fucked up and depressed, and they want gobs more $$$ to hire therapists and Special Needs workers.

BASTA!

Posted by: Noam Sayen at March 02, 2024 04:52 PM (cBFcL)

243 Jordan Peterson interviews Abigail on his podcast. Since Peterson is an old-school properly trained clinical psychologist (at least until the college pulls his license for badthink) he's got the solid background on how this all came to be. Definitely worth the listen. https://tinyurl.com/Shrier-podcast

Posted by: Gordon at March 02, 2024 05:26 PM (+kFgc)

244 Gordon at March 02, 2024 05:26 PM

Thanks, Gordon. We all know about the professional problems Jordan Peterson has had because he is a properly trained clinical psychologist. Not many of us are aware how many others have also had problems, and how little proper training is now done.

Posted by: KT at March 02, 2024 07:40 PM (rrtZS)

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