McConnell Advises Republican Senators to Vote "No" on Amnesty Bill He Personally Negotiated

This party must be abandoned. We cannot continue like this, where we never even get to fight the Democrats -- we're constantly having to fight our own "leaders" to please, please, for once, take our side in a debate.

But they won't: The GOP Establishment loathes, detests, hates, despises its own voters. We are, in fact, Deplorables in their eyes.

Facing a torrent of criticism from conservatives, Senate Republicans on Monday resisted advancing on a bipartisan proposal intended to clamp down on illegal border crossings, signaling a likely defeat in Congress that would leave leaders with no clear path to approve wartime aid for Ukraine.
In a dramatic turnaround, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell recommended to GOP senators in a closed-door meeting that they vote against the first procedural vote Wednesday, according to two people familiar with the meeting who were not authorized to talk publicly about it and spoke anonymously.
It came just hours after the Kentucky Republican had urged colleagues on the Senate floor that "it's now time for Congress to take action." But McConnell has struggled to marshal his conference to support the package of $118 billion package of border enforcement policy and funding for Ukraine, Israel and other U.S. allies.
Senate negotiators on Sunday night released the text of the bill, hoping that the details would win over skeptics. The carefully negotiated deal represented a rightward shift in Senate negotiations over border measures, yet the backlash was still intense from conservatives. They savaged the border policy proposal as insufficient, with former President Donald Trump leading the charge.
"This is a gift to the Democrats. And this sort of is a shifting of the worst border in history onto the shoulders of Republicans," Trump, the likely Republican presidential nominee, said Monday on "The Dan Bongino Show." "They want this for the presidential election so they can now blame the Republicans for the worst border in history."

Via Jazz Shaw at Hot Air, who adds:

Lankford is the missing piece of the puzzle here. As recently as yesterday, he went on Fox and Friends and continued to defend the bill, criticizing Republicans who were opposing it. He was generous enough to say that if conservatives were fighting against the idea of allowing 5,000 illegal aliens to be released into the country each day, "We can do 3,000." The backlash against his plan back in his home state led some members of the Oklahoma Republican Party to hold a meeting to discuss censuring him, though the measure was not officially passed. Others took to social media calling on Lankford to resign.

McConnell's determination to ram through yet another Comprehensive Amnesty will have several terrible aftereffects.

On the strictly political side, it gives Biden and Schumer what they actually wanted all along: A way to blame Republicans for the Democrats' border catastrophe. Democrats will claim the solution to the open border crisis was at hand, but Republicans rejected it for political reasons.

Indeed, turncoat "Republican" liberal James Lankford is going out on all the political talk shows making exactly that case.

On the policy side, Democrats will now insist that this weak "deal" establish the contours of any future "deal." In other words: The Republicans have announced that they seek only the tiniest breadcrumbs in exchange for mass amnesty; why would Democrats ever agree to offer more than breadcrumbs in any "deal"? McConnell has committed us, out to the medium future, to sharing the Democrats' Amnesty First, Security Last (or Never) agenda.

The "deal," by the way, contained a Very Special Betrayal for conservatives: The bill would make the ultra-liberal DC Circuit Court the only court empowered to decide questions about immigration and border enforcement. We've seen some good rulings coming out of the Fifth Circuit on the border; this "deal" would take all cases away from any conservative-tilted court and give them all to the leftwing DC circuit.

This is a "deal." You guys are excited by this "deal," right?

Sean Davis on McConnell's walkback:

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
Let this be a lesson to any Republican stupid enough to go out on a limb to do McConnnell's dirty work: he will leave you out to dry, then cut off the limb you're standing on to save his own behind.
Make no mistake: McConnell picked Lankford for this kamikaze mission because 1) Lankford isn't up for re-election until 2028, and 2) Lankford didn't have the experience or wits to accomplish anything substantive against Schumer and Biden, whose goals on immigration and Ukraine perfectly align with McConnell's.
It was vintage Mitch McConnell: work feverishly behind the scenes on behalf of his donors and the Uniparty to fleece taxpayers, pick an unsuspecting dupe to bear the public burden of carrying McConnell's slop bucket, then throw the poor dupe right under the bus when everything goes sideways.

Dinesh D'Souza
@DineshDSouza
I hear @SenatorLankford used to be a Bible study leader. A worthy calling, but maybe we shouldn't be sending Bible study guys to negotiate with the mafia. That's like sending a dance instructor to negotiate with Xi Xinping. Is it any surprise Lankford got eaten alive?

I don't think that's it. This paints Lankford as some good-hearted innocent and naif. He's quite the opposite: He's a conniving, Gollum-like servitor of the Regime, dressing up his gonzo devotion to transnational progressivism and the WEF as "Christian" missionary work.

My thoughts exactly:

Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC
James Lankford must be politically destroyed for this border bill. I don't just say that because of my extreme malice towards Senator Naked Ken Doll.
It's important for other GOP senators see the career of @jameslankford end because of this.
We must make an example of him.

Last month Senator Lankford said it’s absurd to let 5,000 people a day enter our country illegally.

His bill released yesterday would allow 5,000 people a day to illegally enter our country.

A stab in the back. pic.twitter.com/UJBhov8Nc3
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) February 5, 2024

Below: Lankford has long been committed to Amnesty First. That's why McConnell picked him.

In 2018, Senator Lankford admitted he was doing an amnesty deal with Democrats, behind his voters back.

pic.twitter.com/uV2fUl631E
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) February 6, 2024

Remember, Biden needs new laws (granting mass amnesty) in order to close the border.

Except... Greg Abbott is able to do so armed only with the will to close the border.

Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area." pic.twitter.com/OYuaA4wp86
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) February 5, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:05 PM

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1 Hi Ace

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:06 PM (t/2Uw)

2 If public outcry succeeds in Kayoing this bill, it wil be the first time in a long time.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:06 PM (t/2Uw)

3 Morning, Ace.

How are the Shelves this AM?

Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (mJHFD)

4 Hi sharon!

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)

5 >>>How are the Shelves this AM?

Tall strong and robust like Darrius Honeycum's dick.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)

6 "We had to negotiate and write the bill before we could vote against it!"

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (oIShL)

7 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (b96zV)

8 All GOP party members Are Bastards.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (fKIdX)

9 Eat the GOP.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (fKIdX)

10 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

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But Kirby said that razor wire fences don't work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

11 The Stupid Party is Stupid

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (xcxpd)

12 Yes, all GOP politicians.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (fKIdX)

13 Tall strong and robust like Darrius Honeycum's dick.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)

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You got any book writing done?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

14 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (tjClK)

15 Yup. Two sides of the same coin.
Heads the dems win,
Tails the reps lose.
We are Charlie Brown (with or without the dildo) and they are Lucy with the football.

Time to kick Lucy in the head instead.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

16 In McConnell's "defense"... he's not negotiating anything.

This evil turtle is just a puppet and a shell now.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 06, 2024 12:09 PM (JMAcK)

17 Maybe, just maybe, one day, our elected representatives will get it through their thick skulls we don't elect them to MAKE FRIENDS in DC. We elect them to enact legislation that BENEFITS their CONSTITUENTS.

Assholes.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 06, 2024 12:09 PM (tjClK)

18 16 In McConnell's "defense"... he's not negotiating anything.

This evil turtle is just a puppet and a shell now.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 06, 2024 12:09 PM (JMAcK)

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I don't remember his chief of staff running for re-election...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

19 Such a Republican thing to do:

Republican officeholder: I am going to do something outrageous, carry my water, will you?

Republican supporter: Look at this big bucket I have!

Republican officeholder: Grabs bucket. Punches hole in bottom. Hands it back.

Republican officeholder: You should focus on candidate quality.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (xhfG9)

20 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

Sounds more like Bud Abbott....

Posted by: JT at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (T4tVD)

21 I don't think a lot of people understand what is happening. McConnell wanted this bil specifically to remove a reason to vote for Trump.

The bill is written specifically to prevent a president from shutting the border until 2029. It says so right in the bill.

The whole idea is that the GOP wants to take away the biggest reason to vote for Trump.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (lTGtQ)

22 This party must be abandoned. We cannot continue like this ...

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Battered Conservative Syndrome.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (oIShL)

23 Well whatever reason. I'll take it. The fact that Glitch McTurtle had to eat crow is a good thing. He got pushback? Fucking right he did. This thing was a turd in the punchbowl and regardless of the reasons. I am glad it is mort. I wish Glitch were as well.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (MGqzM)

24 Bundling it with Ukraine and Israel aid is a head scratcher.
They get money to secure their borders we get money to open up ours. Never mind, for instance that we don't actually *have* the money and would have to borrow it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (MeG8a)

25 These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.

Posted by: Cocaine Mitch at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (FVME7)

26 21 The whole idea is that the GOP wants to take away the biggest reason to vote for Trump.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (lTGtQ)

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Listen, his hatred of Nickelback will always be enough for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)

27 ""The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we�ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area.""

Awesome work Abbott.

Now do all the other gaps they come through.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (ou9hh)

28 I would love to see the McConnell, Thune, Lankford leadership crew replaced by Senators Cruz, Kennedy, and Hawley. That would be much closer to the positions of most GOP voters.

Posted by: Ralph at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (wnTj5)

29 But Kirby said that razor wire fences don't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

Who you going to believe? Kirby or your lying eyes?

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (xhfG9)

30 Right on time queue the Bee.

New Senate Anti-Murder Bill Caps Murders At 5,000 Per Day

LOL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (MGqzM)

31 29 But Kirby said that razor wire fences don't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

Who you going to believe? Kirby or your lying eyes?
Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:11 PM (xhfG9)

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Does the NYT refer to him as an expert in something?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

32
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POOR, POOR UKIES?

*posts crying-sad-emoji*

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (xG4kz)

33 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

I'm sorry for my comment on 'No Country For Old Men'. Cormac McCarthy fills me with rage. And occasional admiration. But mostly rage.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (xcxpd)

34 I have a better Great Replacement plan:
And all we have to do is replace 525 people.

Posted by: RI Red at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (Hi4vY)

35 ace never says hi to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (LkLld)

36 "a bipartisan proposal intended to clamp down on illegal border crossings"
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Intended? The AP put the lie in the very first sentence.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (1bNHn)

37 you never say hi, Jack. Dont' get me wrong, I'd rather you didn't.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (KRtlO)

38 We are, in fact, Deplorables in their eyes.

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Tea Party Hobbits were Deplorables before it was cool.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (oIShL)

39 35 ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (LkLld)

You don't share your stash

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

40 There have to be some good Lankford / Gay Sex-Senate Staffer Memes out there, by now.

Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (mJHFD)

41 James Lankford must be politically destroyed for this border bill. I don't just say that because of my extreme malice towards Senator Naked Ken Doll.

It's important for other GOP senators see the career of @jameslankford end because of this.

We must make an example of him.

Pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (CsUN+)

42
New Senate Anti-Murder Bill Caps Murders At 5,000 Per Day

Above that, expect a blizzard of sternly-worded letters!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (xG4kz)

43 Lankford wasn't duped. That's giving him too much credit. He's always been a RINO bastard pimping amnesty and open borders. Just because he's from OK and (supposedly) religious doesn't mean he's not a back-stabbing RINO prick.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (iFTx/)

44 At this point, Senate Rs need to have a vote on their minority leader. THAT has to be the answer to this farce - we need to know which Rs still support McConnell (aka the Uniparty) and which aren't.

The easy red state Rs should then all be targeted for elimination. While we may need to put up with a Main squish, we don't need to put up with an OK or TX squish. And if you vote yes on McConnell to stay leader, that is EXACTLY what you are.

Taking out McCarthy saved the House. Now, we can't wait for a higher power and time, we need to take out McConnell however the Senate Rs have set up to do so. Call for a damn vote of lack of confidence...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (exHjb)

45 The whole idea is that the GOP wants to take away the biggest reason to vote for Trump.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (lTGtQ)

Defense in depth. It is also useful in failure, as in this year when voters say that illegal immigration is the most important topic, Republicans are now blamed for preventing border closure.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (xhfG9)

46 33 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

I'm sorry for my comment on 'No Country For Old Men'. Cormac McCarthy fills me with rage. And occasional admiration. But mostly rage.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (xcxpd)

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I have not seen a comment. You delete it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)

47 I'm hoping Kari Lake paints Sinema into a corner over this bill, being as Sinema the independent was also a negotiator.

It also sheds more light on the Lake bribe attempt by the GOP.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (tT6L1)

48 Main = Maine (dang typo)...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (exHjb)

49
I have a relative living at the memory unit of a retirement facility I visit regularly.

Several of the residents show greater cognitive abilities than Joey or Mitch.

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (j4U/Z)

50
The carefully negotiated deal represented a rightward shift

WHAT???

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)

51 Lankford was roasted for believing that at his "camp" 13yo could consent to sex. WTAF

Posted by: GOP sux at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (Zzbjj)

52 As a small win, Langford was exposed as an empty-headed squish.

I do think that McConnell assigned him because he still lives in 1993, where getting a "conservative " to sign off is enough to fool the rubes.

And someone mentioned whether Eyepatch McCain was bothered that he was out there defending the bill.
No, he wasn't. He puts on the gimp suit without even being asked now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (cSaKW)

53 And morning, Ace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (tjClK)

54 50
The carefully negotiated deal represented a rightward shift

WHAT???

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)

If you go far enough to the left, you become right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

55 The carefully negotiated deal represented a rightward shift in Senate negotiations over border measures...

After reading that, I scrolled back up and hovered over the link to see where it was from. Associated Press. Go figger.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (sNc8Y)

56 His bill released yesterday would allow 5,000 people a day to illegally enter our country.

It's better than that - when you hit 5,000 people in a day, you just direct the excess to an official port of entry, where they can come in anyway.

Also, another provision of the bill states that the 5,000 limit only applies to people from countries continuous to the US. So, the limit is 5,000 Mexicans or Canadians - unlimited numbers of Afghanis or Venezuelans can come in.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (YAtuc)

57 Ace never drinks a second cup of my coffee at home.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (MGqzM)

58 I have not seen a comment. You delete it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)

Not....intentionally? I had some shenanigans posting it, I was prompted to log into Wordpress. Which I thought I had. Maybe it didn't go through....anyway, it was filled with profanity. So maybe just as well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (xcxpd)

59 52 And someone mentioned whether Eyepatch McCain was bothered that he was out there defending the bill.
No, he wasn't. He puts on the gimp suit without even being asked now.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:14 PM (cSaKW)

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Theory:

Dan Crenshaw is the Ron Burgundy of the GOP caucus.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

60 McConnell wanted this bil specifically to remove a reason to vote for Trump.

The bill is written specifically to prevent a president from shutting the border until 2029. It says so right in the bill.

The whole idea is that the GOP wants to take away the biggest reason to vote for Trump.

That might be a BIT too convoluted for the GOPe and Mitch.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (CsUN+)

61
New Senate Anti-Murder Bill Caps Murders At 5,000 Per Day

Well, if you don't like that then how about 3000?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (63Dwl)

62
ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw

Design and offer an "Ace Sez 'Hi!'" badge and maybe he will.

Just breathing, excreting and posting ain't gonna cut it!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (xG4kz)

63 Turtle is a piece of work

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (fwDg9)

64 57 Ace never drinks a second cup of my coffee at home.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (MGqzM)

Is it King Harv's Coffee?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

65
Trump, the likely Republican presidential nominee, said Monday on "The Dan Bongino Show." "They want this for the presidential election so they can now blame the Republicans for the worst border in history."

That's part of it, for sure. But if the bad dudes crossing the border ever get together and decide to raise Holy Hell in this country, why would you allow the left to shift the blame even 1%?

Fvck 'em. They OWN it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (nIvob)

66 But Kirby said that razor wire fences don't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures

How about electric razor wire?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (FVME7)

67 The easy red state Rs should then all be targeted for elimination. While we may need to put up with a Main squish, we don't need to put up with an OK or TX squish. And if you vote yes on McConnell to stay leader, that is EXACTLY what you are.

Taking out McCarthy saved the House. Now, we can't wait for a higher power and time, we need to take out McConnell however the Senate Rs have set up to do so. Call for a damn vote of lack of confidence...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (exHjb)

I do this often, but, look upon my works ye mighty and despair:

https://www.republican.senate.gov/

Who out of that crowd do you pick?

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (xhfG9)

68 ========

Theory:

Dan Crenshaw is the Ron Burgundy of the GOP caucus.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

You misspelled 'anal fissure.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (tjClK)

69 "Senate negotiators on Sunday night released the text of the bill, hoping that the details would win over skeptics. "

Hahahahahahahaha!! FFS, I thought they were just duplicitous, but maybe they really are that dense.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (OX9vb)

70 The carefully negotiated deal represented a rightward shift

-

See also: German socialists in the 1940s

They weren't right-wing, but they were slightly to the right of the communists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (AIJ3L)

71 Oklahoma State Chamber endorses Senator Lankford's pro-growth border legislation

Posted by: SMOD at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)

72 In 2018, Senator Lankford admitted he was doing an amnesty deal with Democrats, behind his voters back.

Which is why the RINOs need to be hammered the first time they start sending up these trial balloons. Conservatives need to focus on these guys one at a time, so they become averse to capitulation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (IG4Id)

73 66 But Kirby said that razor wire fences don't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures

How about electric razor wire?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (FVME7)

Sharks with lasers, swimming up and down the Rio Grande.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

74 Defense in depth. It is also useful in failure, as in this year when voters say that illegal immigration is the most important topic, Republicans are now blamed for preventing border closure.
Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM

Disagree. Most people know Biden can and could have closed the border ANY time he wanted/wants too. Shit even Bill Maher called out some turd on his show the other day about it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (MGqzM)

75 Taking out McCarthy saved the House. Now, we can't wait for a higher power and time, we need to take out McConnell

On it.

Posted by: Reaper, The Grim at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (CsUN+)

76 Regarding Lankford and his supposed religiosity (leader of Bible study)…. I say this as the son of a Baptist preacher and a committed evangelical Christian: I no longer trust politicians who push their Christian credentials constantly….. George W, Mike Pence come to mind (along with Lankford)…. I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (1jdMT)

77 >>>ce never drinks a second cup of my coffee at home.

what's the next line they do like that in Airplane?

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (KRtlO)

78 Again, I wouldn't look at the border bill as something that was developed and negotiated.

It was crafted by the Donks and shoved into GOPe's face and ordered to sell it to your people.

The fact the Goofball and illegitimate GOPe thought they could pull off a banana in the tailpipe trick is comical.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (XV/Pl)

79 And in page 213, if illegals are not from Mexico or Canada, they are not counted for 5,000 entry per day. 👀
So pretty much the same as now or even worse, but they want to legalize it!!!!

Posted by: SMOD at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (RHGPo)

80 I do this often, but, look upon my works ye mighty and despair:

https://www.republican.senate.gov/

Who out of that crowd do you pick?
Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (xhfG9)

Rand Paul would be my pick for Minority Leader...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (exHjb)

81 77 >>>ce never drinks a second cup of my coffee at home.

what's the next line they do like that in Airplane?
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (KRtlO)

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"He never vomits at home."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO)

82 >>ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (LkLld)

Try wearing Shorter Shorts.

Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (mJHFD)

83 Willowed on topic:

illegals don't steal jobs, they take jobs that others refuse to do, or at least do well. From my experience here in NoVa, a bad area that sees an influx of illegal Hispanics can turn around and be full of thriving businesses in short order. Also, there's a reason that people hire them for construction: they work hard. Granted, they now control the construction trades, but that's because they do a better job for less money, at least that's my experience.

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It is illegal for illegals to work in the U.S. Full stop. If they are working, they are stealing someone's job and eventually will take over the trade. I've watched it play out over the course of my life here in the South. Illegals will do the work but the job won't be much cheaper because the legal bossman knows he'd be a fool to underbid by that much. He pockets the difference. Soon no Americans can compete and would you look at that, drywall, roofing, lawncare, etc. are now almost entirely one demographic.

It's not much different than how walmart drove all the mom and pops out of business.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (AIJ3L)

84 74 Defense in depth. It is also useful in failure, as in this year when voters say that illegal immigration is the most important topic, Republicans are now blamed for preventing border closure.
Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM

Disagree. Most people know Biden can and could have closed the border ANY time he wanted/wants too. Shit even Bill Maher called out some turd on his show the other day about it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (MGqzM)

Told someone the other day that if Trump could do it before this so-called bill was proposed, Biden could do it anytime he wanted to.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

85 82 >>ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (LkLld)

Try wearing Shorter Shorts.
Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (mJHFD)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO)

86 "Senate negotiators on Sunday night released the text of the bill, hoping that the details would win over skeptics. "

Hahahahahahahaha!! FFS, I thought they were just duplicitous, but maybe they really are that dense.

Plutonium is an aerogel compared to these imbeciles.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (CsUN+)

87 How about electric razor wire?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (FVME7)

You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM (xhfG9)

88 The only bill I'd accept would be 100 billion for walls, mines, tunnel busting ordnance, and pillboxes, along with 99% tax on remittances south of the border, and minimum 5000 a day, on average, flung back over the razor wire fence with trebuchets. Illegals and/or democrats, whatever it takes to get the probably 30+ mil interlopers the fuck out of here. I'd also make Fucky Schemer lick my shoe and thank me for it.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM (rEWMP)

89 76 Regarding Lankford and his supposed religiosity (leader of Bible study)…. I say this as the son of a Baptist preacher and a committed evangelical Christian: I no longer trust politicians who push their Christian credentials constantly….. George W, Mike Pence come to mind (along with Lankford)…. I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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The Good Book has something to say about that.

Posted by: GOPe at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM (ysVwb)

90 that would leave leaders with no clear path to approve wartime aid for Ukraine.

Who gives a sh*t?

Posted by: vic at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM (A5THL)

91 85 82 >>ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (LkLld)

Try wearing Shorter Shorts.
Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (mJHFD)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO)

Your not gay enough. Neither am I.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:20 PM (ynpvh)

92 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

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nice test case. now, let's do this everywhere. too bad we did not have a president who ran on "the wall" and then, with all the power of the executive branch, could not put up chicken wire do do this very thing !

Posted by: runner at February 06, 2024 12:20 PM (V13WU)

93 87 How about electric razor wire?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (FVME7)

You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!
Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM (xhfG9)

It's just crazy enough to work!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:20 PM (xcxpd)

94 Abolish The Federales.

No more buffers for the parties to hide behind as each State can do what is in their citizens best interest instead of some schmuck like Chuck U or McTurtle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (Dc73h)

95 35 ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (LkLld)

You don't share your stash
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

He don't have a long mustache ?

Posted by: JT at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (T4tVD)

96 https://jamesonellis.com/

REMINDER TEXAS: Jameson Ellis is running for the 2nd district against Crenshaw, and he seems way more like us than Crenshaw. Donate to him, vote for him (if in his district), and get out the vote for him. The primary is where we take this seat back, so Texas, you can Cantor Crenshaw!

Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (exHjb)

97 Busy news day

Appeals court denies Trump immunity.
Fani caught cohabitating in taxpayer funded "safe house" with her taxpayer funded prosecutor lover.
Amazon told to ban books by Feds and did.
and there is even more!
Busy day ahead for you Ace.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (t/2Uw)

98 Regarding Lankford and his supposed religiosity (leader of Bible study)…. I say this as the son of a Baptist preacher and a committed evangelical Christian: I no longer trust politicians who push their Christian credentials constantly….. George W, Mike Pence come to mind (along with Lankford)…. I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….

I don't want to start a religious war, but I agree with you. If you want to persuade me that Christianity is the way to go, live it, don't talk it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)

99 I was subjected to the view this morning and I found out a few things for example the border is a fake issue but the governor of Texas is chasing down people in Mexico with razor wire

Also Biden solved inflation and the cost of living so if you can't afford a house it's because you need to get a job you lazy son of a bitch

Though it's funny they had a bunch of commercials saying you need to get their price Protection Service now because inflation is skyrocketing

Posted by: 18-1 at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (/YotI)

100
Try wearing Shorter Shorts.
Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (mJHFD)
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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM

Here's a clue.... 🏳️‍🌈 NTTAWWT

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (nIvob)

101 I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Even more important to be aware since the neo-marxists have their targets set on the US churches for takeover. They are using theological concepts and terms, incorrectly, of course, to insert marxism into the bodies. Beware supposed believers with political aims.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (IG4Id)

102 You know, that walmart observation is interesting because of the totally fake replacement theory that Biden is on camera admitting is real and we're watching take place as we speak.

Americans are moms and pops, literally. We're watching the beginning of something really bad, because of something mentioned in the last thread. The illegals don't give a crap about quality of work or follow up. Get it done and move on (insert NYC cop joke here if you want). This 3rd world standard will be the majority very soon.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (AIJ3L)

103 Maybe some Nair would work, Jackstraw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (KnK6d)

104 Appeals court denies Trump immunity.
Fani caught cohabitating in taxpayer funded "safe house" with her taxpayer funded prosecutor lover.
Amazon told to ban books by Feds and did.
and there is even more!

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cool! Tuesdays are usually boring...

Posted by: runner at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (V13WU)

105
Tall strong and robust like Darrius Honeycum's* dick.

Posted by: ace

You should change Darrius' nickname every time you post his full name.

For instance, Darrius "Snizz Buster" Honeycum*

*Edited for clarity

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (xG4kz)

106 97 Busy news day

Appeals court denies Trump immunity.
Fani caught cohabitating in taxpayer funded "safe house" with her taxpayer funded prosecutor lover.
Amazon told to ban books by Feds and did.
and there is even more!
Busy day ahead for you Ace.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (t/2Uw)

Yeah, I commented on the book banning. Libbies cry about it all the time, but this is the real thing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

107 A provision, contained on page 221 of the bill.

"This would prevent plaintiffs - like the State of Texas - from filing suit in Texas federal courts. This is corrupt," he wrote.

Posted by: SMOD at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (RHGPo)

108 Disagree. Most people know Biden can and could have closed the border ANY time he wanted/wants too. Shit even Bill Maher called out some turd on his show the other day about it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (MGqzM)

If this were true, surely it would be on the news!

To coin a phrase.

If they didn't think that gaslighting worked, they wouldn't gaslight.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (xhfG9)

109 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

Sounds more like Bud Abbott....
Posted by: JT at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (T4tVD)

One caveat I have to attach to Abbott's admirable work in sealing off Eagle Pass, and it is a big one: Nearly all the rest of the Texas border is still basically wide open, and illegals are continuing to pour through it.

The Eagle Pass standoff was useful insofar as it embarrassed the Biden regime and produced a show of unity among GOP governors. But let's not pretend they've "solved" the problem.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (bhRsz)

110 I wonder who some of the other senators supporting this were?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (jbnUc)

111 98 Regarding Lankford and his supposed religiosity (leader of Bible study)…. I say this as the son of a Baptist preacher and a committed evangelical Christian: I no longer trust politicians who push their Christian credentials constantly….. George W, Mike Pence come to mind (along with Lankford)…. I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….

I don't want to start a religious war, but I agree with you. If you want to persuade me that Christianity is the way to go, live it, don't talk it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)

Sometimes you gotta whip the moneychangers out of the temple.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

112 "Representative Government"...yeah, sure.

Posted by: BignJames at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (AwYPR)

113 When you start to see old mexican broads working fast food it's too late. Next come the calls for a living wage to support her 4 kids. Watched it happen in my old state. Big one on the west coast.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 06, 2024 12:23 PM (Z8Yh2)

114 I do this often, but, look upon my works ye mighty and despair:

https://www.republican.senate.gov/

Who out of that crowd do you pick?
Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:16 PM (xhfG9)

I literally don't care. The second guy is always going to be better than the first guy if for no reason other than he knows if he's as bad as the first guy, he's going to lose his job.

This is how you get the bad people to do the good things.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:23 PM (fKIdX)

115 This party must be abandoned.

I have been saying that for years, only to be lectured repeatedly that by not voting GOP, sitting out or voting for a Dem, I was only making things worse.

Nice to see some are beginning to come around.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:23 PM (Q0kLU)

116
Here's a clue.... 🏳️‍🌈 NTTAWWT
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Booty Shorts!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:23 PM (xG4kz)

117 The GOPe seem to think their constituents measure success in the passage of bills to law. Just waive in the air a law that passed - "See we did something". That is the trick in all of this.

What has surprised them is that many are measuring success on the number of illegal crossings by foreigners. When the bill says 5K a day and that the rest are at the discretion of Joe Biden's appointee - we all understand there is no change in that number except it goes from "illegal" crossings to "legal" under the bill.

In fact, what this bill really does is prevent a re-elected President Trump from ACTUALLY closing the border. So, this is a success for the GOPe as it would corner Trump.

No bill is better than a bad bill.

Posted by: Jake Speed at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (Vu1jV)

118 I don't know, shutting down 4k a day does not sound like a trifle.

Posted by: runner at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (V13WU)

119 It is illegal for illegals to work in the U.S. Full stop. If they are working, they are stealing someone's job and eventually will take over the trade. I've watched it play out over the course of my life here in the South. Illegals will do the work but the job won't be much cheaper because the legal bossman knows he'd be a fool to underbid by that much. He pockets the difference. Soon no Americans can compete and would you look at that, drywall, roofing, lawncare, etc. are now almost entirely one demographic.

It's not much different than how walmart drove all the mom and pops out of business.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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True. Our elites are all about pocketing individual gains from illegal immigration and putting the costs on American society at large.

And btw, a lot of that work done by illegals is actually quite shitty around here. Crappy masonry work, using nailguns like crack monkeys, not bothering to fix underlying issues in re roofing houses, etc. Going to Home Depot and hiring a bunch of illegals doesn't guarantee craftsmanship nor quality

The locust class of Americans don't really care that much because they depend on selling houses and moving every so often.

Posted by: GOPe at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (ysVwb)

120 76 Regarding Lankford and his supposed religiosity (leader of Bible study)…. I say this as the son of a Baptist preacher and a committed evangelical Christian: I no longer trust politicians who push their Christian credentials constantly….. George W, Mike Pence come to mind (along with Lankford)…. I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Yeah, it would be kinda like wearing an eyepatch and touting your Navy SEAL background to convince everyone that you're a tough, "America First" patriot. If such a person existed, that is.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (bhRsz)

121 115 This party must be abandoned.

I have been saying that for years, only to be lectured repeatedly that by not voting GOP, sitting out or voting for a Dem, I was only making things worse.

Nice to see some are beginning to come around.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:23 PM (Q0kLU)

Catch-22.
You vote against the GOP, Dems win. You vote for the GOP, dems win. Third party? Dems win.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

122 It’s like cows. Make them go to the chute. If they ain’t your brand turn them around.

Posted by: Eromero at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (NxC5+)

123 It still drives me crazy that fake conservative outlets like HotAir pretend they don't understand why McConnel or Lankford agreed to this "deal" in the first place. They still pretend it's not a uni-party and that the GOP is a true opposition party. They act surprised that McConnell got "tricked" or something.

People like Ed Morissey drive me nuts because their pretend conservatism and pretend ignorance does so much harm to conservatism. I don't even understand how a site like HA stays in business selling itself as conservative.

If you read their takes about this issue it's all feigned surprise and confusion as to why McConnell went for this deal in the first place. Don't admit the obvious - McConnell wants amnesty. Instead pretend it's a mystery . . . . drives me nutty

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (ky+MF)

124
Someone posted a link this morning - probably on Tech Thread - about the 2020 Election fraud. Link goes to YouTube. No more then 30 seconds into the video an ad pops up with Dirty Joe Biden begging for money.

You can't tell me YouTube isn't doing this shit on purpose.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (nIvob)

125 Remember how it took Marco Rubio weeks to destroy his future at the highest levels of the GOP by pushing for the 2013 amnesty instead of days?

Those were simpler times...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

126 I don't want to start a religious war, but I agree with you. If you want to persuade me that Christianity is the way to go, live it, don't talk it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)

Sometimes you gotta whip the moneychangers out of the temple.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

What dost thou mean "sometimes"?

Posted by: Jesus, the Son of Man, whips in hand and ready to flip some tables at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (zplCU)

127 I don't want to start a religious war, but I agree with you. If you want to persuade me that Christianity is the way to go, live it, don't talk it.

That's crazy talk, is what that is.
*starts warming up personal jet*

Posted by: Joel Osteen at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)

128 Indeed, turncoat "Republican" liberal James Lankford is going out on all the political talk shows making exactly that case.

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[RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!!! from last week:]

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill: “I suspect that a lot of the internet rumors are very well coming from overseas, where they would love to see this shut down because some people would rather not see funding for Ukraine.”

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:26 PM (oIShL)

129 34 I have a better Great Replacement plan:
And all we have to do is replace 525 people.
Posted by: RI Red at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (Hi4vY)

We replaced the entire Congress with this cup of Folgers Crystals.

Let's see if anyone notices.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM (vivhj)

130 126 I don't want to start a religious war, but I agree with you. If you want to persuade me that Christianity is the way to go, live it, don't talk it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:21 PM (CsUN+)

Sometimes you gotta whip the moneychangers out of the temple.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

What dost thou mean "sometimes"?

Posted by: Jesus, the Son of Man, whips in hand and ready to flip some tables at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (zplCU)

https://___flip.com/i/7zdvv7

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

131 lolololol

Posted by: CppThis at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM (PZvjL)

132 Afternoon Ace. It seems more like Turtle sent Jimmy to negotiate with a rabid wolverine named Schumer. I'll guarantee that Schumer got more than he initially negotiated for, but Jimmy played with the big boys

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM (4ETP4)

133 And btw, a lot of that work done by illegals is actually quite shitty around here. Crappy masonry work, using nailguns like crack monkeys, not bothering to fix underlying issues in re roofing houses, etc. Going to Home Depot and hiring a bunch of illegals doesn't guarantee craftsmanship nor quality

The locust class of Americans don't really care that much because they depend on selling houses and moving every so often.

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That's been my experience everywhere, every time. I lived in an apartment complex with a bunch of illegals and became friends with some of them. They'd invite me to drink a beer with them occasionally. Seven to ten men in a two bedroom apartment, working and sleeping in shifts. You learn a lot.

They're sending their money home and they're headed back that way, too, unless they can find an obese white woman to marry and become a U.S. citizen.

In general they couldn't care less about the quality of work that they do because they're either not going to be there next week or they'll just get on with another crew.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM (AIJ3L)

134 Politico (I know) is reporting that there are republicans in the House refusing to vote for Mayorkas' impeachment.

The GOP sucks.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (PPLn4)

135 Remember how it took Marco Rubio weeks to destroy his future at the highest levels of the GOP by pushing for the 2013 amnesty instead of days?

Those were simpler times...

I was thinking about that this morning. You'd think anybody with a functioning synapse would look at the wreckage of past careers, high and dry on the rocks, and conclude that maybe this wasn't the best course. I mean, it isn't as if the evidence is hidden.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (CsUN+)

136 76 Regarding Lankford and his supposed religiosity (leader of Bible study)…. I say this as the son of a Baptist preacher and a committed evangelical Christian: I no longer trust politicians who push their Christian credentials constantly….. George W, Mike Pence come to mind (along with Lankford)…. I now think this overt religiosity on display is just a way to fool the rube voters into thinking “he’s on my side!”….. no more. I hope you’re a believer but if you’re a pol go to church but shut up about it….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

A lot of religious people are very left - they work from the assumption that Jesus would want open borders and gov't benefits. I've long said that absent abortion, Evangelicals would mostly be hard-core leftists b/c of this thinking. Catholics are already halfway there based on this thinking. Mormons (LDS) love open borders.

Religious does not equal conservative. Just like big business/corporation does not equal conservative.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (ky+MF)

137 The Uniparty is going YOLO with this. It is the clearest sign that they think Trump is going to win. I think they are going to burn it down if it comes to that. I say, it's already a dumpster fire. Might as well make them feel it inside the beltway.

Posted by: You're Fired at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (fRhCV)

138 Next come the calls for a living wage to support her 4 kids.

That's how you get $20 each tacos, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (6bRle)

139 1 I don't think a lot of people understand what is happening. McConnell wanted this bil specifically to remove a reason to vote for Trump.

The bill is written specifically to prevent a president from shutting the border until 2029. It says so right in the bill.

The whole idea is that the GOP wants to take away the biggest reason to vote for Trump.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 06, 2024 12:10 PM (lTGtQ)

Ding! Ding! Ding! You're the winner. This is exactly what they were trying to do.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (BdMk6)

140 100
Here's a clue.... 🏳️‍🌈 NTTAWWT

Ron DeSantis?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (jbnUc)

141 90 that would leave leaders with no clear path to approve wartime aid for Ukraine.
Who gives a sh*t?

Posted by: vic at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM (A5THL)

Well old timer, time to muster up again 'cause Ukraine needs you!

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (j4U/Z)

142 Posted by: Jesus, the Son of Man, whips in hand and ready to flip some tables at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (zplCU)

Hmm. Let me try that again...
http://tinyurl.com/2vydszk7

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:29 PM (ynpvh)

143 "In general they couldn't care less about the quality of work that they do because they're either not going to be there next week or they'll just get on with another crew."

This is why I no longer trust anyone from NOVA. Agents at best.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 06, 2024 12:29 PM (Z8Yh2)

144 Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill:

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good to know that the (R) Senator and (D) Pelosi are on the same page

Posted by: runner at February 06, 2024 12:29 PM (V13WU)

145 Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)

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You got any book writing done?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I got a pack of smokes with me in case Ace has another Fanni's willis post soon.

Posted by: Crazy to be sane, certified moron and virtue signaler at February 06, 2024 12:29 PM (vBtop)

146 Ace, this is actually an improvement in the GOPe, and should be viewed as a significant victory. In the past, we'd have some failure theater with the bill being passed by the narrowest of margins because of a handful of "moderate" GOPers. The party would gaslight us, talk tough, and hope we'd forget about it by November.

Now, though, they're a little shaken, because they've suffered a few electoral losses due to pissing off (and on) the base, and they KNOW Trump is a loose bull in a china shop, and will mercilessly call the GOPe out and vocally campaign against them for this kind of betrayal.

Sure, I'd rather they actually believe in the priorities of the base, and joyfully fight for us, but I'll accept them fearing us, and doing our bidding to save their sinecures.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 06, 2024 12:29 PM (JCZqz)

147 Since sitting presidents don't have immunity when may we see charges brought against Clinton, Bush 1 and 2 ,Obama, and Biden... Don't forget Carter

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (Akjoo)

148 I have a better Great Replacement plan:
And all we have to do is replace 525 people.
Posted by: RI Red at February 06, 2024 12:12 PM (Hi4vY)

And about another 500 or so senior executives and officials.

They need to be reminded that there are 340 million of us.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (W/lyH)

149 Catch-22.
You vote against the GOP, Dems win. You vote for the GOP, dems win. Third party? Dems win.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

Nah...

You vote against the GOP, Dems win and you're destroyed.
You vote for 3rd party, Dems win are you're destroyed.
You vote GOP, you have a slim chance of getting a Mike Johnson and stopping the destruction.

AKA - you have to vote GOP. You let a higher power work his way to get a Mike Johnson in with a miracle. And now destruction is a little farther off.

Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (exHjb)

150 134 Politico (I know) is reporting that there are republicans in the House refusing to vote for Mayorkas' impeachment.

The GOP sucks.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (PPLn4)

Only takes one. That's how narrow the majority is.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (xhfG9)

151 The Uniparty is going YOLO with this. It is the clearest sign that they think Trump is going to win. I think they are going to burn it down if it comes to that. I say, it's already a dumpster fire. Might as well make them feel it inside the beltway.
Posted by: You're Fired

That or it's belt-and-suspenders protection against the possibility, not certainty.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (IG4Id)

152 135 Remember how it took Marco Rubio weeks to destroy his future at the highest levels of the GOP by pushing for the 2013 amnesty instead of days?

Those were simpler times...

I was thinking about that this morning. You'd think anybody with a functioning synapse would look at the wreckage of past careers, high and dry on the rocks, and conclude that maybe this wasn't the best course. I mean, it isn't as if the evidence is hidden.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (CsUN+)

Rubio's punishment is that he...will be a senator until he dies.

This is why Jesse Kelly is 100% right.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (KbCG3)

153 Does McYertle mean vote no on the cloture (filibuster-beaking) vote and no if the bill comes to floor?

Posted by: Gref at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (5fDan)

154 are = and (gosh, 2 typos in a row - need more coffee)...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (exHjb)

155 135 Remember how it took Marco Rubio weeks to destroy his future at the highest levels of the GOP by pushing for the 2013 amnesty instead of days?

Those were simpler times...

I was thinking about that this morning. You'd think anybody with a functioning synapse would look at the wreckage of past careers, high and dry on the rocks, and conclude that maybe this wasn't the best course. I mean, it isn't as if the evidence is hidden.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (CsUN+)
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Kristi Noem has entered the chat. She also moved very very quickly from a serious up-and-comer to setting herself on fire. That was an epic flameout.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

156 People like Ed Morissey drive me nuts because their pretend conservatism and pretend ignorance does so much harm to conservatism. I don't even understand how a site like HA stays in business selling itself as conservative.

If you read their takes about this issue it's all feigned surprise and confusion as to why McConnell went for this deal in the first place. Don't admit the obvious - McConnell wants amnesty. Instead pretend it's a mystery . . . . drives me nutty
Posted by: Meanwhile
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That is because you are not paying their salaries--the donors behind GOPe are. They pay conservative media to make the 'conservative case' for whatever evil that the Dems dream up.

That is the reason National Review became a laughing stock--they sought and got corporate welfare from teh likes of Google etc. to prevent anti trust and anti google legislation.

Easy sell because the traditional GOP apparatchiks hate average citizens and view them as stupid sheep to be fleeced. Dems are even worse and actually plot genocide etc. for those they deem inferior when the revolution comes.

Posted by: GOPe at February 06, 2024 12:31 PM (ysVwb)

157 I used to just be glad my ancestors had the good sense to move away from England a few hundred years ago to this continent and, eventually, what became this country. Now, I'm glad my grandparents got the hell out of Oklahoma back in the 1920s.

Posted by: huerfano at February 06, 2024 12:31 PM (Q4KYm)

158 Sure, I'd rather they actually believe in the priorities of the base, and joyfully fight for us, but I'll accept them fearing us, and doing our bidding to save their sinecures.

Yup, I don't need them as my friends. I want them to FEAR me, and do anything to avoid my wrath.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:31 PM (CsUN+)

159 McConnell knows the in and outs of Senate decorum, obviously. However he's running the Senate GOP as if it was 1824 and not 2024. The so-called border security bill was written by leftist staffers from both Democrats and Republicans... neither of which took any time to read what the staffers had written. The Democrats probably knew as they ballparked what they wanted and the staff put in the word processing time.

Ask any GOP'er who backed this thing to comment on some actual text of the bill. They can't. They honestly don't know what the fuck it said. Yet they agreed with it.

The whole lot of Senate GOP sellouts needs to meet the business end of a woodchipper, starting with Glitch.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)

160 I like how Dems are blaming Trump for the blow up of the bill.

Dude, quit selling it, I am already going to vote for the guy!

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (xhfG9)

161 I don't want to start a religious war, but I agree with you. If you want to persuade me that Christianity is the way to go, live it, don't talk it.

That's crazy talk, is what that is.
*starts warming up personal jet*
Posted by: Joel Osteen at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)

I laughed. That’s funny!

Don’t get me started on that fraud Osteen….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (1jdMT)

162 Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill:

Seriously? What a dumbass.
So he gets caught in bed with a hooker next week....you can hear him now: "I was drugged by Russian agents!"

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (W/lyH)

163 Yeah, so how does Langford get punished? He just got reelected. He's been censured by his own state political party. He can't be impeached. He can actually cause even more harm by voting with the Dems and basically give the Reps his middle finger. He loses nothing.
the Dems continue to win as the border stays open because now they have an excuse to do nothing. The only caveat is if they lose in November and that remains to be seen. Say Biden is out and they manage to bypass Kamala and the new D candidate runs on closing hte border. Then what happens?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)

164 152 Rubio's punishment is that he...will be a senator until he dies.

This is why Jesse Kelly is 100% right.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (KbCG3)

========

He and Ted Kennedy will share the same fate. Yeah, it's not losing his seat, but damn does Rubio want to be president. It's something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

165 AP, in part, At issue is a provision in the bipartisan package that would grant the Homeland Security secretary emergency authority to prohibit entry for most individuals if an average of more than 4,000 people per day try to enter the country unlawfully over the course of a week. If the number reaches 5,000 or if 8,500 try to enter unlawfully in a single day, use of the authority would be mandatory. Wut?

And then, "If the proposal were passed into law, the new authority could be triggered almost immediately, given that border encounters topped 10,000 on some days during December, which was the highest month on record for illegal crossings. President Joe Biden has said he would use the authority to “shut down” the border." Heh.

Close all open border areas; scoop up the Visa overstays; stop the fly-in, birthright citizenship sites - hospitals, hotels, gated communities. Selective Service registration cards for ALL eligible men. Papers for all on government's Humanitarian Parole programs and/or TPS - and those papers must be made available to authorities, police, for rental agreements, etc.

And, no more Ukraine funding.

Langford's face = Purge mask. NEVER Haley.

Posted by: L - Confident they're working on new 'rope-a-dope' techniques for the Presidential election at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (GshMh)

166 @147

>>Since sitting presidents don't have immunity when may we see charges brought against Clinton, Bush 1 and 2 ,Obama, and Biden... Don't forget Carter

Red State AG's and DA's aren't going to do that, wouldn't be cricket you see.

I fully expect when this case gets to the SCOTUS and they hand down a constitutionally illiterate and violative decision, the ending sentence will contain, BECAUSE TRUMP.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (XV/Pl)

167 Illegals tend to be run by a Jefe who cashes their check for them. For a fee. The Jefe also provides a layer between the business and the workers.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (tT6L1)

168 Taking out McCarthy saved the House.
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And the country.

Is there any doubt he would have allowed this a vote? Which was guaranteed to pass?

Any of those whining about his ouster want to prove otherwise?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:33 PM (cSaKW)

169 Kristi Noem has entered the chat. She also moved very very quickly from a serious up-and-comer to setting herself on fire. That was an epic flameout.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Behind every politician is a shady team of enablers and whisperers. No different than during a monarchy, the court always had intrigue among the courtiers. One of Noem's chief aides was also getting gobs of money from the Chamber of Commerce type folks that did not want ND to be punished by megacorps for going after trannies.

Posted by: GOPe at February 06, 2024 12:33 PM (ysVwb)

170 159 McConnell knows the in and outs of Senate decorum, obviously. However he's running the Senate GOP as if it was 1824 and not 2024. The so-called border security bill was written by leftist staffers from both Democrats and Republicans... neither of which took any time to read what the staffers had written. The Democrats probably knew as they ballparked what they wanted and the staff put in the word processing time.

Ask any GOP'er who backed this thing to comment on some actual text of the bill. They can't. They honestly don't know what the fuck it said. Yet they agreed with it.

The whole lot of Senate GOP sellouts needs to meet the business end of a woodchipper, starting with Glitch.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)

and when these bills are finally available for reading, they are dense with references like: In Section XYZ subsection M 1) of Law 123, the word "shall" shall be changed to "Shall not"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:33 PM (ynpvh)

171 Any of those whining about his ouster want to prove otherwise?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:33 PM (cSaKW)

Nope... The new guy is better for sure... Hope he can't be bought

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (Akjoo)

172
I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO)

Hiya James Monroe !

Posted by: JT at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (T4tVD)

173 I forget who was President during the early 1860s, but he thought the Constitution was an unbreakable pact.
If Fed Gov is no longer honoring or even pretending to keep its side of the bargain, I’m willing to consider the breakability therof.
What’s that phrase the left uses? BAMN?

Posted by: RI Red at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (Hi4vY)

174 Posted by: Jesus, the Son of Man, whips in hand and ready to flip some tables at February 06, 2024 12:25 PM (zplCU)

Hmm. Let me try that again...
http://tinyurl.com/2vydszk7
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Parkour Jesus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (FVME7)

175 Rubio's punishment is that he...will be a senator until he dies.

This is why Jesse Kelly is 100% right.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (KbCG3)

He’s 100% right, but he’s also 100% right that it’s a people problem. Iowans (of whom I am one) have been sending Grassley’s desiccated corpse to Washington for over 3 decades and he’s accomplished nothing in particular. Given the chance to vote for someone who gives a damn in the 2022 primary, Grassley won with over 80% of the vote.

We’re getting what we deserve, and we’re getting it good and hard.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (9mfKN)

176 Any of those whining about his ouster want to prove otherwise?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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There was no plan when he was ousted. We shoulda had a plan. /sarc.

Posted by: GOPe at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (ysVwb)

177 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

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Pole vault, trebuchet, and/or hang glider?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (oIShL)

178 Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill

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Ah, like printing money and causing our inflation.

Somehow that wascally Wussian has figured out a way to write and pass legislation in the U.S., too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (AIJ3L)

179 Anything the " Democrats " do does the opposite of what they say their bill does.

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (fwDg9)

180 You mean you're not accepting the ol' "aw, shucks McConnell got the better of me again" explanation for the hand in the cookie jar?

Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (oNgxs)

181 "It was vintage Mitch McConnell: work feverishly behind the scenes on behalf of his donors and the Uniparty to fleece taxpayers, pick an unsuspecting dupe to bear the public burden of carrying McConnell's slop bucket, then throw the poor dupe right under the bus when everything goes sideways."
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I know *exactly* which playbook this comes from...Stay tuned for the Sunday Morning Book Thread!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (7fElN)

182 The GOP Establishment loathes, detests, hates, despises its own voters. We are, in fact, Deplorables in their eyes.

It's amazing, really, when you think back to how much they supported Trump's efforts at improving the country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (zhLdt)

183 I still remember all the times Obamacare and "Infrastructure" were dead.

Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (oNgxs)

184 He’s 100% right, but he’s also 100% right that it’s a people problem. Iowans (of whom I am one) have been sending Grassley’s desiccated corpse to Washington for over 3 decades and he’s accomplished nothing in particular. Given the chance to vote for someone who gives a damn in the 2022 primary, Grassley won with over 80% of the vote.

We’re getting what we deserve, and we’re getting it good and hard.

What you're getting are unending ethanol subsidies from the rest of us.

Take away the IA caucus.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (CsUN+)

185 177 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

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Pole vault, trebuchet, and/or hang glider?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:34 PM (oIShL)
__________

"Hey! That was our idea!"

-- Filthy goat-fucking Hamas scumbags

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

186 @politicoalex

NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down

Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (LkLld)

187 Is Senator Rounds mentally challenged? I've heard him say two things and both were astoundingly stupid

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (4ETP4)

188 Illegals tend to be run by a Jefe who cashes their check for them. For a fee. The Jefe also provides a layer between the business and the workers.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (tT6L1)

Sounds exactly like the bunch that reroofed my house. Owner came out and gave me an estimate and didn't see him again til he came for the check.

Posted by: BignJames at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (AwYPR)

189 that did not want ND to be punished by megacorps for going after trannies.
Posted by: GOPe

SD.

Posted by: old chick at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (sOete)

190 Texas Gov. @GregAbbott_TX: "The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

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Well, over that large of a sample size, you're going to see some quantum tunneling.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (fKIdX)

191 Mieli, Bukele, young, smart, fearless.

I am so tired of our ancient, clueless political class.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:37 PM (t/2Uw)

192 The GOP Establishment loathes, detests, hates, despises its own voters. We are, in fact, Deplorables in their eyes.
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It's amazing, really, when you think back to how much they supported Trump's efforts at improving the country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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For me it was not even bothering to have one single vote on a simple "Obamacare is hereby repealed" bill like they'd gotten to Obama's desk when they knew they could count on his veto.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:37 PM (AIJ3L)

193 Illegals tend to be run by a Jefe who cashes their check for them. For a fee. The Jefe also provides a layer between the business and the workers.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 12:32 PM (tT6L1)

The Jefe also procures they place they all live at 40 to a house, their wimmens and drugs as needed and organizes the park takeovers on the weekends for their Futbol! matches and knife fights.

It's good to be The Jefe.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 06, 2024 12:37 PM (Dc73h)

194 Pleased to see my state has troops in Texas to support Texas and the Border Patrol. And my governor is sending more troops.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (pohLc)

195 41 James Lankford must be politically destroyed for this border bill. I don't just say that because of my extreme malice towards Senator Naked Ken Doll.

It's important for other GOP senators see the career of @jameslankford end because of this.

We must make an example of him.

Pour encourager les autres.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:13 PM (CsUN+)
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I do think we should, every election, pick out one wet Republican in each house, and destroy him. Ace's old idea of a Shit List.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (1bNHn)

196
"The area where we have occupied this park in Eagle Pass, Texas, that we put up the razor wire, there used to be 3,000 or 4,000 people crossing that area a day. For the past three days, we’ve averaged just 3 people crossing that area."

Put me in coach. I'm hungry.

Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (nIvob)

197 NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down

Hopefully he's a rat leaving a sinking ship, aka Ronna.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (CsUN+)

198 Senator Lankford is one of my senators. I have never been actively involved in a political campaign; but I let his office know that I would be when his time comes for re-election and that I would actively campaign for his defeat.

Posted by: profligatewaste at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (g5hrm)

199 Democrats are saying the Open Borders Act is failing because of...Russia, Russia, Russia?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (VTrrP)

200 Kristi Noem has entered the chat. She also moved very very quickly from a serious up-and-comer to setting herself on fire. That was an epic flameout.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

Didn't Trump just name drop Noem and Tim Scott as potential running mates?

Posted by: Robert at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (w7l7U)

201 Tall strong and robust like Darrius Honeycum's dick.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)

Bravo! You sound very shelf-assured this morning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (tkR6S)

202 The best part for me is the Russia, Russia, Russia shit still works.

It works here. Still.

Oh, the IC says Putin kills his enemies? FYNQ

Posted by: DOYLE at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Z8Yh2)

203 I know *exactly* which playbook this comes from...Stay tuned for the Sunday Morning Book Thread!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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All the King's Men?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Dm8we)

204 Didn't Trump just name drop Noem and Tim Scott as potential running mates?
Posted by: Robert at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (w7l7U)

I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

205 192
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For me it was not even bothering to have one single vote on a simple "Obamacare is hereby repealed" bill like they'd gotten to Obama's desk when they knew they could count on his veto.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:37 PM (AIJ3L)

Yeah, but when Trump was president with both houses REP and a conservative SCOTUS, they just couldn't find the energy or time to push a simple bill like that. Weird.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

206 170. ...the word "shall" shall be changed to "Shall not"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Democrats = Shalls and shall nots will become should & should not. The government way until, unless a Judge catches it which is almost never. (Trump fixed, FJB unfixed.)

How are you, Jim?

Posted by: L - Confident they're working on new 'rope-a-dope' techniques for the Presidential election at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (GshMh)

207 The so-called border security bill was written by leftist staffers from both Democrats and Republicans...

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You misspelled grifting lobbyists 10 years ago -- sitting in a file cabinet waiting for the opportune time to drop it on us.

/Yeah, I'm much too young to be so cynical ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (oIShL)

208 Noem, Thune and Rounds are in China's pocket. Oh Kristy talks tough against China, but there have been some really shady deals.

South Dakota politics has been a cesspool since Daschel was in office. There's a reason a rinky dink state like South Dakota always has someone in Senate leadership.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (vivhj)

209 @199

>>Democrats are saying the Open Borders Act is failing because of...Russia, Russia, Russia?

Say what you will about Russia and Vlad, but damn, that dude knows how to stretch a Ruble.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (XV/Pl)

210 Take away the IA caucus.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (CsUN+)

I will just point out that Ted Cruz won the 2016 caucus, while making it clear that he wanted no subsidies for ethanol, preferring for it to stand on its own in the marketplace.

That being said, what state is going to do any better going first? All the supposedly red states send eunuchs at best to Washington and to their own statehouses.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (9mfKN)

211 OT...I wonder if Toby Keith's family will have to sign a bunch of papers so Biden can cash in on the publicity make a call, and then tell them about Beau?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (W/lyH)

212 Why is McConnell still in power? At least move him to the Democrats!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (d2bW3)

213 defeat in Congress that would leave leaders with no clear path to approve wartime aid for Ukraine.
......

I call that a victory.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (v0R5T)

214 I have a better Great Replacement plan:
And all we have to do is replace 525 people.
Posted by: RI Red

*William F. Buckley has entered the chat.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (w9Wax)

215 that did not want ND to be punished by megacorps for going after trannies.
Posted by: GOPe

SD.
Posted by: old chick at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM

Plus that sweet NCAA money! Who cares if so-called-"real" girls are injured and die at the hands of the new and improved trans "girls". I got mine!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (xttsV)

216 Tall strong and robust like Darrius Honeycum's dick.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)

It's concerning that you would know this.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 12:41 PM (zhLdt)

217 182 It's amazing, really, when you think back to how much they supported Trump's efforts at improving the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (zhLdt)

Love him or hate him, Trump did a fantastic job of pulling back the curtain.

Posted by: CppThis at February 06, 2024 12:41 PM (PZvjL)

218 Oh. And my old faithful dryer isn't dead. It came back from death and is working well again.

Although, when I turn it on, I hear a deep dark voice that tells me that General Electric reigns in hell.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 06, 2024 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

219 206
...How are you, Jim?

Posted by: L - Confident they're working on new 'rope-a-dope' techniques for the Presidential election at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (GshMh)

Most of the preparations for tomorrow are done. Looks to be wet at the funeral.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

220 200 Kristi Noem has entered the chat. She also moved very very quickly from a serious up-and-comer to setting herself on fire. That was an epic flameout.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

Didn't Trump just name drop Noem and Tim Scott as potential running mates?
Posted by: Robert at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (w7l7U)
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I don't believe the name-drop on Noem was serious. She has been trying desperately to rehabilitate herself. She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc. I just don't think conservatives will ever trust he after she shivved the girls of her state in the back. But who knows? Conservatives are dumb, stupid, gullible, stupid, and easy marks.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (iFTx/)

221 Random question: has President Dying Brain been in East Palestine yet? I know he was scheduled to go but I don't recall anything stupid he said while there.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (O9EMC)

222 The Russian Bogeyman is alive and well in many a smooth brain.

Vlad is so smart he runs two countries at once and still has time to sit for TV interviews.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (Dc73h)

223 If the number reaches 5,000 or if 8,500 try to enter unlawfully in a single day, use of the authority would be mandatory.

Mandatory. But also waivable by the President. So not as mandatory as all that.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (xhfG9)

224 That being said, what state is going to do any better going first? All the supposedly red states send eunuchs at best to Washington and to their own statehouses.

We'll never know unless we adopt a rotating system, so other people get the chance to strut and act like they're much wiser than everyone else, because "we take politics seriously". No, you take your subsidies seriously.

I'll take a flyer on someone, anyone, else. IA is just too damn comfortable.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (CsUN+)

225 218 Oh. And my old faithful dryer isn't dead. It came back from death and is working well again.

I have My MIL's dryer.. Harvest gold.. It's that old... Just won't die

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)

226 >>>Tall strong and robust like Darrius Honeycum's dick.

Posted by: ace

That's a bold statement.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (d2bW3)

227 150 134 Politico (I know) is reporting that there are republicans in the House refusing to vote for Mayorkas' impeachment.

The GOP sucks.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:28 PM (PPLn4)

McCarthy always had a core of 20 - 30 House members who were liberal democrats pretending to represent conservative districts, there's no getting away from that. The House has never had more than 180 members who we can reasonably trust, and it takes about 215 to pass anything. That's just a sad fact until the GOP is purged completely or replaced.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (i9ffA)

228 @204 Noem vetoed a bill that would have kept me out of women's sports as I recall. Later approved a revision

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (4ETP4)

229 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She wimped out on trannies in female sports. I think there might be other criticisms but that's the thing that sunk her with Maga.

Posted by: Robert at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (R9OP5)

230 218 Oh. And my old faithful dryer isn't dead. It came back from death and is working well again.

Although, when I turn it on, I hear a deep dark voice that tells me that General Electric reigns in hell.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 06, 2024 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

Funny that. One night I got up, went to my fridge, and could swear the gurgling sounds it was making said, "Buy GE"...
Yes, it was a GE.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

231 186 @politicoalex

NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (LkLld)

Considering the only thing RNC leadership has accomplished is blowing tons of $$ on flowers, fancy hotels, etc.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (N39Ws)

232 Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (d2bW3)

Good to see you, man. I'm rooting for ya.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (xcxpd)

233 J.D. Vance for VP.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (t/2Uw)

234 Yeah, it would be kinda like wearing an eyepatch and touting your Navy SEAL background to convince everyone that you're a tough, "America First" patriot. If such a person existed, that is.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 06, 2024 12:24 PM (bhRsz)

I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (i9ffA)

235 222 The Russian Bogeyman is alive and well in many a smooth brain.

Vlad is so smart he runs two countries at once and still has time to sit for TV interviews.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (Dc73h)

Except when you mentions Hillary's ties via sales of our uranium to Russian-controlled and owned company (RosAtom).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (ynpvh)

236 So Biden's giving Repubicans what they want, and they refuse to pass it anyway. If they were to pass it, it gives Biden a victory and they can't allow that. They'd rather scream about it and refuse to do their jobs.

Republicans: We were for a stronger border policy before we were against it. This is the kind of destabilizing chaos that makes Putin smile.

Rachel Maddow described it perfectly last night. Dems have a platform. rwnj have no platform. Democrats have a party. rwnj do what one guy tells them. Right now, there are Dems and there is an unorganized mob, carrying pitchforks and dragging their knuckles.

Message the Democrats should hammer them on is that they turned down better border security. If the message is pushed really hard it will totally fuck a number of Republicans.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (JCZqz)

237 225 218 Oh. And my old faithful dryer isn't dead. It came back from death and is working well again.

I have My MIL's dryer.. Harvest gold.. It's that old... Just won't die
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)

"Hallelujah!"

- - Fred & Moosie, LLC

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (x0n13)

238 The devil you know rather than the devil you don't know.

Posted by: L - Confident they're working on new 'rope-a-dope' techniques for the Presidential election at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (GshMh)

239 I will just point out that Ted Cruz won the 2016 caucus, while making it clear that he wanted no subsidies for ethanol, preferring for it to stand on its own in the marketplace.

He won with 27%, while Trump and Rubio got 24% and 23% respectively. There are some Iowans who aren't getting subsidies, and/or have ethics, but the majority voted for someone other than Cruz.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (CsUN+)

240
Lankford needs to be poleaxed and put on public display with a sign: "THIS IS WHAT A RUBE LOOKS LIKE"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (xG4kz)

241 223 If the number reaches 5,000 or if 8,500 try to enter unlawfully in a single day, use of the authority would be mandatory.

Mandatory. But also waivable by the President. So not as mandatory as all that.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (xhfG9)
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Also, they don't stop the flow after 5,000, they just have to be funneled through a port of entry.

Oh Unaccompanied minors don't count towards 5,000. Can anybody see another Dreamers fiasco.

Posted by: WisRich at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (G0vdT)

242 QUIT VOTING FOR INCUMBENTS.

Sorry Tex Cruz, it's your time to go. Along with Cornyn.

Afternoon all.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (6GRih)

243 Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill
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Projection

Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (oNgxs)

244 I don't believe the name-drop on Noem was serious. She has been trying desperately to rehabilitate herself. She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc. I just don't think conservatives will ever trust he after she shivved the girls of her state in the back.

You shoulda looked out for me a little bit. You shoulda taken care of me, just a little bit, so I wouldn't have to take them dives for the short-end money...I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am.

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (xttsV)

245 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (i9ffA)

I saw his tweet about how there were “so many falsehoods” being said about the bill yesterday. Fun times.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (9mfKN)

246 men out of women's sports, not me . Damn hot dog fingers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (4ETP4)

247 233 J.D. Vance for VP.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (t/2Uw)

NC Lt. Gov Mark Robinson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (x0n13)

248 We replaced the entire Congress with this cup of Folgers Crystals.

Let's see if anyone notices.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM

Toldya', Ace never has a second cup of coffee at my house!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (MGqzM)

249 229 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She wimped out on trannies in female sports. I think there might be other criticisms but that's the thing that sunk her with Maga.
Posted by: Robert at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (R9OP5)
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Yea and the way she went about it was tone deaf. Basically the old "insult your own supporters" trick, then after lighting yourself on fire, desperately try to backtrack while pretending it's those criticizing you who are the idiots.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (iFTx/)

250 I have My MIL's dryer.. Harvest gold.. It's that old... Just won't die
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)

A couple cans of Appliance epoxy would fix that harvest gold problem.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (pohLc)

251 >>>f. She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc.

there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)

252 Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (d2bW3)

Good to see you, man. I'm rooting for ya.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (xcxpd)

Ditto!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (W/lyH)

253 South Dakota politics has been a cesspool since Daschel was in office. There's a reason a rinky dink state like South Dakota always has someone in Senate leadership.
Posted by: Just Lily
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Banks that issue credit cards. SD got big in the 80's because they did not have usury limit on credit card interest.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (ysVwb)

254 Well, over that large of a sample size, you're going to see some quantum tunneling.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (fKIdX)

------------

Heh.

* Heisenberg has entered the chat, in more ways than one *

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (oIShL)

255 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM

He was blindsided.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (MGqzM)

256
Rachel Maddow described it perfectly last night. Dems have a platform. rwnj have no platform. Democrats have a party. rwnj do what one guy tells them. Right now, there are Dems and there is an unorganized mob, carrying pitchforks and dragging their knuckles.

LOL... Abortion and open borders is their platform..Dragging knuckles is hard if you're carrying pitchforks

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (Akjoo)

257 >>Lankford needs to be poleaxed and put on public display with a sign: "THIS IS WHAT A RUBE LOOKS LIKE"

Lankford looks like he'd prefer to be pilloried and sodomized.

Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (mJHFD)

258 Senator Lankford is one of my senators. I have never been actively involved in a political campaign; but I let his office know that I would be when his time comes for re-election and that I would actively campaign for his defeat.
Posted by: profligatewaste at February 06, 2024 12:38 PM (g5hrm)

Yup. Lankford is done in OK. I'd even suggest not returning here after his term is up.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 06, 2024 12:47 PM (BdMk6)

259 Message the Democrats should hammer them on is that they turned down better border security. If the message is pushed really hard it will totally fuck a number of Republicans.

I'm so old, I remember when we couldn't afford $5 billion for a border wall.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2024 12:47 PM (6GRih)

260 She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc.

there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
***

If the dems don't have dirt on her by now, they will make up something.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:47 PM (W/lyH)

261 If DU is convinced that the bill is everything the right wants, they should be able to point to provisions in the bill that they hate as total sellouts to Right Wing Nut Jobs, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

262 there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM

So Mummy Noemy likes the Big Lewandowski?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (MGqzM)

263 Madcow helps set up the dem strategy so well. It's like she is on a payroll.

Posted by: runner at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (V13WU)

264 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

I don't hate her. She disappointed many with the women's sports thing. But I volunteer to help rehabilitate her. Individual counseling sessions. Frequently. Repeatedly.

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (XIF9h)

265 J.D. Vance for VP.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (t/2Uw)
~~~~~

I'd accept that. My first choice is Lee Zeldin.

Not a fan of Kristi Noem or Tim Scott. Don't hate them, just don't want them as VP.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (PPLn4)

266
Yea and the way she went about it was tone deaf. Basically the old "insult your own supporters" trick, then after lighting yourself on fire, desperately try to backtrack while pretending it's those criticizing you who are the idiots.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (iFTx/)

And she did it because the Corps in her state told her too, putting her in the same corporate sellout category as the Governor from WalMart, Asa Hutchinson.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (i9ffA)

267 Yup. Lankford is done in OK. I'd even suggest not returning here after his term is up.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 06, 2024 12:47 PM (BdMk6)

I’ll put up a case of beer that Lankford gets re-elected in 4 years.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (9mfKN)

268 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 06, 2024 12:35 PM (7fElN)

OT: Thanks for giving me a couple of shout-outs in the Book Thread last Sunday. I wanted to be there, but was too depressed to get out of bed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (Q0kLU)

269 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (JCZqz)

Yet now a single one aske the salient question:
How could Trump control the borders YEARS BEFORE this bill was proposed, yet Biden can't (or won't) now?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

270 243 Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill
------

Projection
Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (oNgxs)

More like deflection.

Don't look too closely or you'll see his Chinese pals sending their excess military age males over.

Russians aren't sneaking in. Chinese are.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (vivhj)

271 > NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down
___________

There was an X thread yesterday from Jennifer Van Laar who was looking at the RNC's books... how they spent their money. If she's truthful in her reporting I'd expect there to be other departures from the RNC soon.

http://tinyurl.com/28arm7v7

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (Q4IgG)

272 NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (LkLld)

Considering the only thing RNC leadership has accomplished is blowing tons of $$ on flowers, fancy hotels, etc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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The RNC exists to raise money to spend on themselves and their cronies. Kind of like the leadership of the NRA. We are in the open looting stage of the republic where trust in government and institutions are totally destroyed.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (ysVwb)

273 NC Lt. Gov Mark Robinson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (x0n13)

Oh yeah, he's a real peach.

Posted by: BignJames at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (AwYPR)

274 Right Wing Nut Jobs, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Rational discourse and DU does not compute.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (tT6L1)

275 Tim Scott is a horrible VP choice.

So. That makes him a likely candidate, imo.

Posted by: garrett at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (mJHFD)

276 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.
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He doesn't even mind the smell inside his gimp suit anymore.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (cSaKW)

277 good record on covid, etc.

there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace at
==
Well, he sure knows how to tug on a lady's arm IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: Euphemisms at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (fRhCV)

278 South Dakota politics has been a cesspool since Daschel was in office. There's a reason a rinky dink state like South Dakota always has someone in Senate leadership.
Posted by: Just Lily

I was in DC once on business and happened to walk past him. Jeez...the guy was out of his gourd. Totally spaced out.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (W/lyH)

279 269 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (JCZqz)

Yet now a single one aske the salient question:
How could Trump control the borders YEARS BEFORE this bill was proposed, yet Biden can't (or won't) now?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

=======

What's in the bill that DU hates because it's such a sellout to the right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

280 Why would Trump announce his VP before he announces his VP? Oh yeah I forgot, he's stoooopid.

Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (oNgxs)

281 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She went from hot to stringy

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (xhfG9)

282 Edit: There was an X thread yesterday from Jennifer Van Laar
=====

It was on 1 February not yesterday.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (Q4IgG)

283 Why is McConnell still in power? At least move him to the Democrats!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 06, 2024 12:40 PM (d2bW3)

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Can we trade him for Sinema and a pair of boots to be named later?

/I almost wrote "boobs" ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (oIShL)

284 I'd accept that. My first choice is Lee Zeldin.

Good choice

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (Akjoo)

285 I don't hate her. She disappointed many with the women's sports thing. But I volunteer to help rehabilitate her. Individual counseling sessions. Frequently. Repeatedly.
Posted by: Doof
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Think Lewandowski (Trump's 2016 campaign manager for a time) was doing that very thing publicly awhile back despite being married.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (ysVwb)

286 >>>QUIT VOTING FOR INCUMBENTS.
Sorry Tex Cruz, it's your time to go

HARD DISAGREE. an incumbent conservative is worth his weight in gold.

If you vote out conservative incumbents, you know who comes in? Liberal neocon millionaires, because the GOP prefers candidates be "self-financing." That they have enough money to mostly pay their own way in a campaign.

This is why we keep getting corporate millionaire sell-outs as candidates.

When you have a good incumbent conservative, he can pay his own way as far as campaigning.

If you turn out cruz, you get a replacement that looks exactly like John Cornyn.

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (KRtlO)

287 I don't hate her. She disappointed many with the women's sports thing. But I volunteer to help rehabilitate her. Individual counseling sessions. Frequently. Repeatedly.
~~~~~

Get in line. She had (possibly still having one according to some) a lengthy affair with Corey Lewandowski.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (PPLn4)

288 Russians aren't sneaking in. Chinese are.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (vivhj)

They ain't even sneaking...they're bringing big ass roller suitcases.

Posted by: BignJames at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (AwYPR)

289 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM

He was blindsided.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM

Fuck you man!

Posted by: D Crenshaw (R)ino at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (MGqzM)

290 I will just point out that Ted Cruz won the 2016 caucus, while making it clear that he wanted no subsidies for ethanol, preferring for it to stand on its own in the marketplace.

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That same Ted Cruz fought Trump's efforts to stem some of the flow of illegals. I assume because the Chamber of Commerce said "jump, Ted."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (AIJ3L)

291 He doesn't even mind the smell inside his gimp suit anymore.

I was unsure what that was, so I Googled it. I'm sorry I did that.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (CsUN+)

292 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?

I had a chance to sign the first legislation against the tranny revolution, but I chickened out because I was afraid of the NCAA saying bad things about me and removing one of their tournaments for the state. So I vetoed a bill that would protect girls from being seriously injured by boys pretending to be girls. Then you rubes who want to protect girls and stuff started a backlash so I did a 180 and signed an almost identical bill, although I said it was improved by my veto.

Vote for me! I'm brave and stuff.

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (xttsV)

293 J.D. Vance for VP.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (t/2Uw)
~~~~~

I'd accept that. My first choice is Lee Zeldin.

Not a fan of Kristi Noem or Tim Scott. Don't hate them, just don't want them as VP.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (PPLn4)
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You guys talked m into Zeldin yesterday. I'm good with that.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (W/lyH)

294 IIRC Noem's beef with the tranny bill was that she and/or her advisors saw some obvious lawfare vulnerabilities and wanted to plug the holes before codifying anything...which they did. So I don't really see a problem here, but stone-cold pragmatists like me tend to be out of step with the more emotional and rhetoric-forward approach that seems to drive public support.

Posted by: CppThis at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (PZvjL)

295 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM

He was blindsided.
Posted by: Minnfidel

"Use your open eye, Dan."

*Looks up from bill with eyepatch down*

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (Dm8we)

296 Banks that issue credit cards. SD got big in the 80's because they did not have usury limit on credit card interest.
Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (ysVwb)

This!

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (vivhj)

297 /I almost wrote "boobs" ...
~~~~~

That's okay. I read "boobs."

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (PPLn4)

298 Message the Democrats should hammer them on is that they turned down better border security. If the message is pushed really hard it will totally fuck a number of Republicans.

McConnell set this up to be the message. This will be the campaign. LIVs have no idea what was in the bill or what the bill was about, so will believe this message.

So, even though it isn't passing - it is still doing McConnell's work of helping Dems and harming republicans (particularly Trump).

And you can't tell me he didn't see this coming. There were 2 potential outcomes - the bill is passed screwing us, or the GOP votes against the bill and the message becomes the above. Either way a win for the left/open borders crowd.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (ky+MF)

299 Well, over that large of a sample size, you're going to see some quantum tunneling.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (fKIdX)
------------
Heh.
* Heisenberg has entered the chat, in more ways than one *
Posted by: ShainS

Heisenberg, Right Ahead!!!!

Posted by: Quantum Titanic at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (w9Wax)

300 The misplay on the Trannies is Langfordesque. Noemi is corrupted. No men in womans sports is too easy to miss by accident. Reminds me of running against Trump this cycle. Very non-smart that calls into question your judgement.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

301 286 When you have a good incumbent conservative, he can pay his own way as far as campaigning.

If you turn out cruz, you get a replacement that looks exactly like John Cornyn.
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (KRtlO)

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My only thing with Cruz is his constant votes for bigger government and bigger spending.

I'm not sure he's some sort of conservative paragon. I think he's just better at lying to the base.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

302 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.

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So long as the WEF folks pat his head and say "good job" I assume he wears it like a badge of honor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (AIJ3L)

303 251 >>>f. She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc.

there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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I dunno. That whole rumor is based on unnamed sources who claim Noem was barely hiding it . . . yet not a single pic of them doing anything even remotely sketchy. Today you can't even get a little grabby in a dark theater and not have video evidence of it. I'm going with "pics or it didn't happen" on this one.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (iFTx/)

304 Look I was blind sided. And I am going to patch things up.

Posted by: D Crenshaw (R)ino at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (MGqzM)

305 She went from hot to stringy

Good description. She looks gristly.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (CsUN+)

306 there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace

Lewandowski is like the Pete Davidson of Conservative Women.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (xhfG9)

307 240
Lankford needs to be poleaxed and put on public display with a sign: "THIS IS WHAT A RUBE LOOKS LIKE"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (xG4kz)
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No. It should say "I got raped up the butt by Mitch and Chuck."

Posted by: Eeyore at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM (1bNHn)

308 If DU is convinced that the bill is everything the right wants, they should be able to point to provisions in the bill that they hate as total sellouts to Right Wing Nut Jobs, right?
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Yeah.
Why are even the most liberal Democrats supporting the "strongest border enforcement bill in decades?"

Last week: Voted to prevent even deportation of DWI illegals.
This week: Demanding passage of the "strongest border enforcement bill in decades"

Uh-huh. Right.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM (cSaKW)

309 Good to hear from you, Wyatt! I've been out of the loop, what's been up?

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM (OUMaO)

310 >>>My only thing with Cruz is his constant votes for bigger government and bigger spending.

you mean, like Trump, who consistently urged greater government spending?

Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM (KRtlO)

311 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

I just hate everybody from the start. It saves time.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (Q0kLU)

312 303 251 >>>f. She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc.

there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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Let's face it, Attila the Hun would be better than Kamala

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (Akjoo)

313
Don't look too closely or you'll see his Chinese pals sending their excess military age males over.

Russians aren't sneaking in. Chinese are.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM

China, by releasing Covid on the world and especially the USA massively changed the course of voting in this country, and the results of the 2020 election. Does anyone think it is a coincidence that four years later they may be up to no good once again?

A team of hit and run snipers all over the country could be just the thing to make everyone terrified to vote in person in November.

Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (nIvob)

314 @284

>>I'd accept that. My first choice is Lee Zeldin. Good choice.

I'd take Zeldin, Youngkin or Burgham.

Anyone else and I would be disappointed.

I really don't want Noem, Sanders, Vance or anyone currently in Congress or the Senate.

If your're doing a good job, just stay there, solid people to fill these positions don't come around and I think the Ohio GOPe would be thrilled to get rid of Vance.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (XV/Pl)

315 And she did it because the Corps in her state told her too, putting her in the same corporate sellout category as the Governor from WalMart, Asa Hutchinson.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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That is about 80-90 percent of GOP in Washington and probably about the same as GOP governors.

The GOP has kissed the ass of bidness since the 1896 election of McKinley and Mark Hanna. Teddy was an aberration. The only difference is now business megacorp are international due to the bleeding of the US via trade deficits where foreigners use their bucks to buy US corporations and property. That means GOPe is loyal to them, not to America as such.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (ysVwb)

316 310 >>>My only thing with Cruz is his constant votes for bigger government and bigger spending.

you mean, like Trump, who consistently urged greater government spending?
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM (KRtlO)

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Trump was also a big government spender, and I don't consider him that conservative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (GBKbO)

317 Patch McCain hardest hit.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (YofvK)

318 289 I wonder how Eyepatch McCain feels today about being sent out to defend the bill yesterday, when everybody suddenly caved on it today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM

He was blindsided.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM

Fuck you man!

Posted by: D Crenshaw (R)ino at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (MGqzM)

I wouldn't call it tunnel-vision though.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

319 Iowans (of whom I am one) have been sending Grassley’s desiccated corpse to Washington for over 3 decades and he’s accomplished nothing in particular. Given the chance to vote for someone who gives a damn in the 2022 primary, Grassley won with over 80% of the vote.

We’re getting what we deserve, and we’re getting it good and hard.

Grassley hasn't been phenomenal, but he's been more reliably conservative than many other Republican senators. He's had a few moments here and there. Iowa was, until recently, a fairly purple state, split between Grassley and Harkin(!) for senators.

As an Iowan myself, my bigger concern is Grassley supporting his family members in running for elected offices...and speculation is he'll try to get one to replace him. Fuck that noise; no family dynasties.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (JCZqz)

320 Which is why the RINOs need to be hammered the first time they start sending up these trial balloons. Conservatives need to focus on these guys one at a time, so they become averse to capitulation.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 06, 2024 12:17 PM (IG4Id)

It's not capitulation. It's either that they're liars, who always intended this but wouldn't admit it, or they were bought off.

They do need to be hammered over it though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (zhLdt)

321 When it comes to what the GOP base wants, I have zero perspective.

Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (KRtlO)

322 "Why would Trump announce his VP before he announces his VP?"

Huh?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (Ki//m)

323 My only thing with Cruz is his constant votes for bigger government and bigger spending.

you mean, like Trump, who consistently urged greater government spending?
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM

That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (MGqzM)

324 @271, that thread by Jennifer Van Laar was an absolute indictment of the stupidity of the RNC. Everyone at the RNC should be fired.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (4ETP4)

325 291 He doesn't even mind the smell inside his gimp suit anymore.

I was unsure what that was, so I Googled it. I'm sorry I did that.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (CsUN+)

Heh! I bet you are

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM (pohLc)

326 304 Look I was blind sided. And I am going to patch things up.
Posted by: D Crenshaw (R)ino at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (MGqzM)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (N39Ws)

327 OT: Thanks for giving me a couple of shout-outs in the Book Thread last Sunday. I wanted to be there, but was too depressed to get out of bed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (Q0kLU)
----
You always have excellent insights.

You should seriously consider relocating from your present location. A change of scenery (and neighbors!) can often do wonders for one's current situation, though it can be tough to do.

The Horde is praying for you, buddy! (Myself included!)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (7fElN)

328 The House has never had more than 180 members who we can reasonably trust, and it takes about 215 to pass anything. That's just a sad fact until the GOP is purged completely or replaced.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 12:43 PM (i9ffA)
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Unfortunately, very true.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (PPLn4)

329 If the dems don't have dirt on her by now, they will make up something.
Posted by: Diogenes

and, so will republicans. It truly has become them or us and if you have even one check in the wrong column you're done for. but, let a dem become a rino and every one throws a party.

Posted by: old chick at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (sOete)

330 247 233 J.D. Vance for VP.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:44 PM (t/2Uw)

NC Lt. Gov Mark Robinson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2024 12:45 PM (x0n13)
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We need him to be governor first.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (1bNHn)

331 so I Googled it. I'm sorry I did that.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM (CsUN+)

I forget what number it is, but its in the rulebook.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (xhfG9)

332 Get in line. She had (possibly still having one according to some) a lengthy affair with Corey Lewandowski.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:50 PM (PPLn4)

Still a storm door in a hurricane in my book. Judge me if you must.

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (XIF9h)

333 IIRC Noem's beef with the tranny bill was that she and/or her advisors saw some obvious lawfare vulnerabilities and wanted to plug the holes before codifying anything...which they did. So I don't really see a problem here, but stone-cold pragmatists like me tend to be out of step with the more emotional and rhetoric-forward approach that seems to drive public support.
Posted by: CppThis at February 06, 2024 12:51 PM

Yeah! That's it! It's not like *any* bill that was passed wouldn't be fought over in court! And it's not like I could sign the first bill and then have the legislature pass a second bill that would fix any issues.

Vote for me! I'm brave and not scared of the NCAA at all.

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (xttsV)

334 HARD DISAGREE. an incumbent conservative is worth his weight in gold.

If you vote out conservative incumbents, you know who comes in? Liberal neocon millionaires, because the GOP prefers candidates be "self-financing." That they have enough money to mostly pay their own way in a campaign.

This is why we keep getting corporate millionaire sell-outs as candidates.

When you have a good incumbent conservative, he can pay his own way as far as campaigning.

If you turn out cruz, you get a replacement that looks exactly like John Cornyn.
Posted by: ace

Sorry Ace. Notice how your senator is an asshole, but my asshole senator is ok?

THAT'S EXACTLY how we get and keep asshole senators. Everyone bitches about asshole senators, until theirs is on the block. Then he's ok,

AND NOTHING CHANGES.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (6GRih)

335 Which is why the RINOs need to be hammered the first time they start sending up these trial balloons.

*perks up

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (w9Wax)

336 I dunno. That whole rumor is based on unnamed sources who claim Noem was barely hiding it . . . yet not a single pic of them doing anything even remotely sketchy. Today you can't even get a little grabby in a dark theater and not have video evidence of it. I'm going with "pics or it didn't happen" on this one.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Think there were some pix of a function in Vegas among other places. Daily Mail story mebbe.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (ysVwb)

337 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

I just hate everybody from the start. It saves time.

Right? Asshoe.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (CsUN+)

338 I failed to keep my eye on the ball. I'll try to do better.

Posted by: D Crenshaw (Fake R - TX) at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (qUkBO)

339 We replaced the entire Congress with this cup of Folgers Crystals.

Let's see if anyone notices.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM
.......

*sips* hmm beats Starbucks

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (v0R5T)

340 Russians aren't sneaking in. Chinese are.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM

And like an hour later, you're hungry for more.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (MGqzM)

341 If Zeldin couldn't win in his own state of NY, what makes you think he would bring any new votes to Trump's candidacy? He doesn't check a single box and I am not referring to Woke but administratively. At least a former governor has actually had to run something.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (t/2Uw)

342 Russians aren't sneaking in. Chinese are.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (vivhj)

Not to be too persnickety here, Lil, but correction to your correction - it's still projection even if you change the identity of the foreign influence on our domestic proceedings.

Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (oNgxs)

343 My only thing with Cruz is his constant votes for bigger government and bigger spending.

I'm not sure he's some sort of conservative paragon. I think he's just better at lying to the base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

Cruz has never apologized for saying it was Trump inciting all the violence at Trump rallies.

Cruz has never apologized for calling J6 an insurrection.

Cruz has never apologized or even attempted to explain his vote to award medals to the capitol police, despite blatant evidence it was a Fed set-up.

Fuck that POS in particular.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (Q0kLU)

344 "Republicans kill border security bill."

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (r0XlB)

345 Refuse to cast a vote above the state level.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (+gBWR)

346 327 OT: Thanks for giving me a couple of shout-outs in the Book Thread last Sunday. I wanted to be there, but was too depressed to get out of bed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 12:48 PM (Q0kLU)
----
You always have excellent insights.

You should seriously consider relocating from your present location. A change of scenery (and neighbors!) can often do wonders for one's current situation, though it can be tough to do.

The Horde is praying for you, buddy! (Myself included!)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (7fElN)

I hear The Villages in FL are nice.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (N39Ws)

347 The RNC exists to raise money to spend on themselves and their cronies. Kind of like the leadership of the NRA. We are in the open looting stage of the republic where trust in government and institutions are totally destroyed.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (ysVwb)

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The open shooting and Sicilian Necktie stages are gonna be lit AF!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (oIShL)

348 341 If Zeldin couldn't win in his own state of NY, what makes you think he would bring any new votes to Trump's candidacy? He doesn't check a single box and I am not referring to Woke but administratively. At least a former governor has actually had to run something.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (t/2Uw)

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VP candidates don't move votes anyway.

It's about internal party mechanics more than anything. Which internal GOP faction gets made happy is the better question.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

349 I was unsure what that was, so I Googled it. I'm sorry I did that.

Posted by: Archimedes
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Lol.

And now you're gonna get ads for in in your Facebook feed.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (cSaKW)

350 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (YofvK)

351 251 >>>f. She is still good on paper: female, attractive, good record on covid, etc.

there is a lot of scuttlebutt claiming she was having an adulterous affair with corey Lewandowski. I believe it.
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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OK, I guess she's good on bed linens too.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (1bNHn)

352 I'm not sure Trump ever presented himself as a cost-cutting True Conservative in the mold of cost-cutters like Cruz and Rubio and Ryan, did he? I'm old enough to even remember people noticing that he was essentially a NYC Democrat and to prepare accordingly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (AIJ3L)

353 Everyone at the RNC should be fired.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 06, 2024 12:54 PM

But, send money so we can replace them! Thanks!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (MGqzM)

354 >>>I was unsure what that was, so I Googled it. I'm sorry I did that.

Rule #7 here: never, ever Google a word expressed here. If you don't know what it means, just nod knowingly.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (CwhoI)

355 VP candidates don't move votes anyway.

It's about internal party mechanics more than anything. Which internal GOP faction gets made happy is the better question.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

But they should be someone who can keep the Party in power when the Incumbent is done....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (Akjoo)

356 NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (LkLld)
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Hopefully Ronna is right behind him.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (PPLn4)

357 355 VP candidates don't move votes anyway.

It's about internal party mechanics more than anything. Which internal GOP faction gets made happy is the better question.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

But they should be someone who can keep the Party in power when the Incumbent is done....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (Akjoo)

And break Senate ties in the right direction.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

358 I'm in favor of fracking Noem.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (MGqzM)

359 May I remind the Noem haters that SD was the only state to not do any Wuhan flu lockdowns.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (YofvK)

360 Yet now a single one aske the salient question:
How could Trump control the borders YEARS BEFORE this bill was proposed, yet Biden can't (or won't) now?
Posted by: jim

I'm not sure of the details, but I'm sure it has to do with racism and Putin.

Posted by: Brain-Dead Leftist NPC activist at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (JCZqz)

361 336 I dunno. That whole rumor is based on unnamed sources who claim Noem was barely hiding it . . . yet not a single pic of them doing anything even remotely sketchy. Today you can't even get a little grabby in a dark theater and not have video evidence of it. I'm going with "pics or it didn't happen" on this one.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Think there were some pix of a function in Vegas among other places. Daily Mail story mebbe.
Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 12:56 PM (ysVwb)
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There are pics of them together at public functions. I mean no suspicious or salacious pics. That seems odd given how all the (unnamed) sources claim they were open about it. I'm no fan of Noem but without some actual evidence of an affair, I'm gonna mark this down as a hit job.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (iFTx/)

362 It truly has become them or us and if you have even one check in the wrong column you're done for.

That's what happens when you lie to your base time and time again. We've become much more cynical and quicker to spot the frauds, which is many of them.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (CsUN+)

363 you mean, like Trump, who consistently urged greater government spending?
Posted by: ace at February 06, 2024 12:53 PM

Or like Reagan? Or W? Or almost every GOP majority congress?

I gave up on the GOP reducing spending decades ago. It's never going to happen. I don't care if it's DeSantis or Haley as the next GOP president - spending ain't going down.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (ky+MF)

364 356 NEWS: RNC chief of staff Mike Reed is stepping down
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:36 PM (LkLld)
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Hopefully Ronna is right behind him.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 12:58 PM (PPLn4)

Is there a Vax for that?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

365 A VP candidate should fill a gap. Adminstrative, Foreign policy, Economics...something that lends credibility to the party's platform. It should not be strictly ideological but able to put those ideas into practical application.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (t/2Uw)

366 My only thing with Cruz is his constant votes for bigger government and bigger spending.

you mean, like Trump, who consistently urged greater government spending?
==
Ace is right. Trump and Cruz are a lot alike. Except Trump is more likable.

Posted by: Now THAT is leaving a mark at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (fRhCV)

367 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

Only admiration from me - among other great features, her shoulders are incredible.

Posted by: Flea Bit Peanut Monkey at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (ogTiX)

368
Hark back to a moment to the strum and drang regarding the ObamaCare legislation.

* Remember when the Senate told us that there was no bill drafted that could be released to the public to read?

* Remember that all they had was something drawn up with EasySenateScaffoldingFramework(TM), Alpha Release 1.2.z.8?

* Remember that the draft had dozens of > inserts festooned throughout it?

How is it that the voting public has not strung up these thieves on a scaffolding that stretches from the Washington Monument to the Lincoln Memorial?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (xG4kz)

369 How does the government allow 5,000 illegal aliens to enter legally... wouldn't that make them 'legal'?

When officially allowed in the would be illegal aliens would no longer add to the tally of illegal aliens allowed in.

Is this the self-licking ice cream cone or free beer tomorrow (never comes).

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (YT7cG)

370 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM

I had a chance to be the first governor to sign a bill fighting the tranny menace, but I was afraid of the NCAA.

But thank you for your support!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (xttsV)

371
Cruz has never apologized for saying it was Trump inciting all the violence at Trump rallies.

-

Charlottesville, where there was a wonderful opportunity for a big ol' brain to explain how freedom works and that Americans have rights even if you disagree with them.

Instead he blamed the folks that got the permits to march.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (AIJ3L)

372 I just hate everybody from the start. It saves time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Andrew Lloyd Webber: "Why do people take an instant dislike to me?"

Alan Jay Lerner: "Saves time."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (9yWhg)

373
Running for Governor of New York and finishing higher than the cheat margin makes Zeldin a hero.

He's seen the enemy up close.

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (j4U/Z)

374 She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (YofvK)

That is actually quite an accurate explanation as to why MANY on the right get the "dead to me" treatment amongst the Horde

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (XIF9h)

375 It truly has become them or us and if you have even one check in the wrong column you're done for.

I think it matters what the issue is. Some issues are straw-breakers, some are not.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 01:01 PM (ky+MF)

376 Look I was blind sided. And I am going to patch things up.
Posted by: D Crenshaw (R)ino at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (MGqzM)
......

Forget the patch. Get a glass eye. They look pretty cool.
Especially the ones with the Time Tunnel spiral on it.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:01 PM (v0R5T)

377
May I remind the Noem haters that SD was the only state to not do any Wuhan flu lockdowns.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM

Easy to handle six foot 'social distancing' when the population of your state is about one person per square mile.

Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (nIvob)

378 Message the Democrats should hammer them on is that they turned down better border security. If the message is pushed really hard it will totally fuck a number of Republicans.

I find this a really weird take from DU/The Left. I would think the LAST thing they want to draw attention to is the need for more border security. Sure, MAYBE they can hammer congressional Republicans with it because they didn't support this bill (doubtful), but how do they think the American people, now with elevated border security concerns, are going to weigh Trump vs Biden?

Posted by: Brain-Dead Leftist NPC activist at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (JCZqz)

379 too bad we did not have a president who ran on "the wall" and then, with all the power of the executive branch, could not put up chicken wire do do this very thing !
Posted by: runner at February 06, 2024 12:20 PM (V13WU)

I'm going to be kind and assume you're just really forgetful.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (zhLdt)

380 377 Easy to handle six foot 'social distancing' when the population of your state is about one person per square mile.
Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (nIvob)

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Even Rhode Island shut down, and Rhode Island doesn't even exist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

381 I'm in favor of fracking Noem.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (MGqzM)

Dude! I already called dibs. Back off!

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (XIF9h)

382 Crenshaw was a good pupil.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (Dmh54)

383 That is actually quite an accurate explanation as to why MANY on the right get the "dead to me" treatment amongst the Horde
Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM

Yeah! The girls being injured by the trannies are dead to me!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (xttsV)

384
A purge at the RNC?

Bars on Mackinac Island and Harbor Springs have their rainbow flags at half mast today.

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 01:03 PM (j4U/Z)

385 You always have excellent insights.

You should seriously consider relocating from your present location. A change of scenery (and neighbors!) can often do wonders for one's current situation, though it can be tough to do.

The Horde is praying for you, buddy! (Myself included!)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 06, 2024 12:55 PM (7fElN)

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This is very good advice, Professor.

Before escaping Califzuela over a decade ago, I was a mess of anxiety & depression and on medications & therapy.

After moving & settling into rural Northern AZ, I threw away my medications and had no need for therapy; wifey said I was a more mellow and changed man.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 01:03 PM (Y9b/9)

386 280 Why would Trump announce his VP before he announces his VP? Oh yeah I forgot, he's stoooopid.
Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 12:49 PM (oNgxs)

Alternatively, he's not stupid. He can talk about potential candidates cost free. Gets "earned media." Plus free polling. How did people respond to what he said?

I am not trying to say that everything he says or does is genius and 11D chess or whatnot. But also not everything he says is stupid, either. People who might argue that Haley should be VP and support her because she is a woman of color are reminded that there are other women and people of color in the party.

Trump may not know staffing an administration, but he knows branding.

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 01:03 PM (xhfG9)

387 that would leave leaders with no clear path to approve wartime aid for Ukraine

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Who gives a sh*t?
Posted by: vic at February 06, 2024 12:19 PM

* raises hand, drops trou *

Posted by: Zelenskyy at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (iJGxc)

388 377
May I remind the Noem haters that SD was the only state to not do any Wuhan flu lockdowns.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM

Easy to handle six foot 'social distancing' when the population of your state is about one person per square mile.
Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (nIvob)

Like in ND or MT or ID or UT or WY or NE? All those places had lockdowns. She was the only one out of 50 governors to say no this is retarded. But she’s still not pure enough for some.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (YofvK)

389 May I remind the Noem haters that SD was the only state to not do any Wuhan flu lockdowns.

And Mussolini made the trains run on time. The point is that she outed herself as someone who couldn't be relied on, even for as easy a call as girl's sports.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (CsUN+)

390
Bars on Mackinac Island are mostly closed during the winter months.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (xG4kz)

391 AND NOTHING CHANGES.
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Nothing changes because it's a puppet show. The uniparty reads a script. Written for them by big 💰.

Posted by: Now THAT is leaving a mark at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (fRhCV)

392
Instead he blamed the folks that got the permits to march.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM

But wasn't it some Obama person who initially got the permits?

Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (nIvob)

393 Insert here speil on how a country w/o borders is not a country and those who throw down walls are literally traitors...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM (YT7cG)

394 *Perfessor -- damn auto-cucumber!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (Y9b/9)

395 Turtle man from Kentucky is the perfect example of being the asshole in charge. We have the 'tards in Kentucky to thank for keeping this asshat in office.

Posted by: White Punk at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (2i/Yk)

396 Decrepit Joe is going to be on TV soon, to no-doubt rant, rage, and scream about MAGA Republicans killing the bipartisan compromise bill that would have let him instantly close the border when he signs it, along with doing the bidding of Putin and Hamas since Ukraine and Israel military aid is in the bill.

He's over an hour late to his own rage-fest.

Posted by: Gref at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (5fDan)

397 Easy to handle six foot 'social distancing' when the population of your state is about one person per square mile.
Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee

That's true for a lot of western states. But all of the others still went with the bullshit restrictions.

Give credit where it's due, sheesh.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (9yWhg)

398 Like in ND or MT or ID or UT or WY or NE? All those places had lockdowns. She was the only one out of 50 governors to say no this is retarded. But she’s still not pure enough for some.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:04 PM

Yeah! Protecting girls from trannies is a purity test!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (xttsV)

399 Spending bills originate in the house. Had Ryan sent a bill cutting spending to PDT, PDT would have signed. Remember, PDT also publicly called out overseas spending.

Ryan showed his true colors when it came to spending. In fact, he was one of the first in to be unmasked in the Uniparty, I believe.

Once Ryan gave away the House, any pretense of fiscal restraint was lost.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (tT6L1)

400 Forget the patch. Get a glass eye. They look pretty cool.
Especially the ones with the Time Tunnel spiral on it.
Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:01 PM (v0R5T)
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Pretty sure he already has a cool glass eye. It has something on it--Captain America? or maybe a SEAL thing?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (PPLn4)

401 More work to do. Guess I'll see you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (Q0kLU)

402 Trump was also a big government spender, and I don't consider him that conservative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Trump's first budget proposal had a number of cuts in it. The GOP controlled House and Senate ignored it.

Simply put, there is no constituency for smaller budgets. The GOP borrows and spends and the Dems tax, borrow, and spend. The Dems tax mainly to punish their political opponents. The GOP occasionally raises taxes to support giveaways to corporations (and in states to education etc. to buy votes).

The national government is going to crash--whether it is fiscal only or fiscal-plus war (internal or external). The question is exactly when and how bad it will be.

What is on the other side of the discontinuity to come remains to be seen.

So focus on your individual preparedness and move/help preserve a functioning local community and state. That is about all we can do. View Washington DC politics as a black comedy similar to the Death of Stalin.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (ysVwb)

403 Going to go and check on how the Israelis are doing and then head out for awhile.
BBL to catch up.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (t/2Uw)

404 Noem is a "If we fight, we might lose, so let's save everyone time and money by surrendering now" republican.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (r0XlB)

405 350 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (YofvK)
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I don't hate her. I just don't trust her any more than I do the remaining 99% of politicians in our limp-dicked dogshit pussy party. She had a chance to stand strong. Instead she caved to big money on a yuge flashpoint for the culture wars.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (iFTx/)

406 I dislike McConnell and would like him removed from his position but would it be better to have him campaign for the bill? I know people think he’s playing 3D chess to put the blame on Republicans but I’d rather play it simple and believe he’s changed his mind. I’d rather he do it for the wrong reasons than push for this crappy bill for no other reason than the Ukraine and Israel funding.

Posted by: Ivory Black at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (MNhXM)

407 398 Like in ND or MT or ID or UT or WY or NE? All those places had lockdowns. She was the only one out of 50 governors to say no this is retarded. But she’s still not pure enough for some.
Posted by: Montec
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Actually from local reports, Noem wanted lockdowns but the state legislature said NO. So she took credit for what the state legislature demanded she do.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (ysVwb)

408 I kinda give zero fucks about girls sports. I do care that she understood early on that Covid was a big load of bullshit. And more importantly didn’t cave to pressure from the media about “safety”.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (YofvK)

409 402 Trump's first budget proposal had a number of cuts in it. The GOP controlled House and Senate ignored it.
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Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (ysVwb)

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I just want to point out that presidential budgets never get serious consideration by Congress and using them as defense of presidents for policy preference purposes feels empty since no one, not even the WH team who puts it together, thinks that it has a chance of becoming law or even considered in committee.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)

410 Think about how retarded social distancing in ND is.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (Dmh54)

411 401 More work to do. Guess I'll see you all tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (Q0kLU)

Me too.. Electricity was off for a day and a half and I have a pile of dishes I couldn't wash... Worst part was no Internet

Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (Akjoo)

412 Trump's VP?

It had better be someone with zero political aspirations and has never held office. Plus, any current politician can be blackmailed into doing whatever the deep state wants.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (Q4IgG)

413 I'm in favor of fracking Noem.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM (MGqzM)

Dude! I already called dibs. Back off!
Posted by: Doof

I see private pickleball lessons in Ms. Noem's future.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (9yWhg)

414 Once the government realized it could spend tax money to directly benefit individuals, the game was over.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (r0XlB)

415 I find this a really weird take from DU/The Left. I would think the LAST thing they want to draw attention to is the need for more border security

"There is no border problem. And it's Trump's fault."

Posted by: Oddbob at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (sNc8Y)

416 How would the Majority Leader be removed? I have no idea, but this debacle should be the end of Bitch.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (woPEM)

417 The GOP is mostly dogs shit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (eYF7X)

418 In general they couldn't care less about the quality of work that they do because they're either not going to be there next week or they'll just get on with another crew.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 12:27 PM (AIJ3L)

They also don't care about laws regarding drunk driving, or car insurance, or... well, anything really. After all, everything they do is illegal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (zhLdt)

419 Pretty sure he already has a cool glass eye. It has something on it--Captain America? or maybe a SEAL thing?
Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 01:05 PM (PPLn4)
......

or maybe an eight ball paintjob?

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

420 Actually from local reports, Noem wanted lockdowns but the state legislature said NO. So she took credit for what the state legislature demanded she do.
Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (ysVwb)

Whatever the reason was, SD didn’t have lockdowns while every other state did. She could have issued some executive order or declared a state of emergency or whatever. And she didn’t.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (YofvK)

421 416 How would the Majority Leader be removed? I have no idea, but this debacle should be the end of Bitch.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (woPEM)

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I agree.

Schumer should pay for McConnell's beytrayal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

422 There was a time when Pres Garfield vetoed a bill that would pay war widows because it was unconstitutional for the federal government to use tax money to pay individuals

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (r0XlB)

423 If you’re a Republican some people will only support you if you are 100% simpatico. Except for Trump who can fuck up a number of times but for some reason it’s never his fault.

Posted by: Ivory Black at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (MNhXM)

424 406 I dislike McConnell and would like him removed from his position but would it be better to have him campaign for the bill? I know people think he’s playing 3D chess to put the blame on Republicans but I’d rather play it simple and believe he’s changed his mind. I’d rather he do it for the wrong reasons than push for this crappy bill for no other reason than the Ukraine and Israel funding.
Posted by: Ivory Black

McConnell is afraid that the aid to Ukraine and Israel will go down with the amnesty bill. That is McConnell's fear. If the amnesty bill fails, Biden is still keeping the border open anyway so Chamber of Commerce is still happy. Not happy are senators and their interest groups if they cannot get military aid to Ukraine or Israel through the House and Senate.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (ysVwb)

425 I don't hate her. I just don't trust her any more than I do the remaining 99% of politicians in our limp-d***ed dog***t p***y party. She had a chance to stand strong. Instead she caved to big money on a yuge flashpoint for the culture wars.

If nothing else, it casts serious doubt on her political acumen. Did she really think this would be received favorably?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (CsUN+)

426 I view the tranny issue like the abortion issue. While not the most important issue to me personally, it says a lot about the politician on where they stand on the issue.

Pro Life politicians tend not to be as "flexible" as non-pro-life GOP politicians. I expect the same is true regarding those who oppose letting boys play girl sports.

a pol's stance on the issue is a tell as to how strongly they'll stick to conservatism overall.

That's why the issue is a straw-breaker issue if the pol gets its wrong.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (ky+MF)

427 Electricity was off for a day and a half and I have a pile of dishes I couldn't wash
Posted by: It's me donna

You don't have a dog?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (9yWhg)

428 I see private pickleball lessons in Ms. Noem's future.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (9yWhg)

Or several rounds of hide the pickle.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (Dmh54)

429 Tim Scott finally saw his windsock move and he is now against the bill. Please Donald, do not pick this dullard for VP.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (eYF7X)

430 Mike Flynn needs to be VP. And handed a BAR.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (r0XlB)

431 420 Whatever the reason was, SD didn’t have lockdowns while every other state did. She could have issued some executive order or declared a state of emergency or whatever. And she didn’t.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (YofvK)

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And with that advantage, she misread the base about an emotional issue and sided explicitly with corporate interests.

Her instincts suck. She should lead nothing. She could be a decent follower if kept in line.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

432 I see private pickleball lessons in Ms. Noem's future.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (9yWhg)

It's as if you can read my mind

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (XIF9h)

433 I kinda give zero fucks about girls sports.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM

As I found out, some voters do care about their girls being mauled by trannies.

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (xttsV)

434 Even the least populated states still have cities and towns. It’s not like everyone lives on a 20 acre fram isolated from other people in the Dakotas.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (YofvK)

435 374 She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (YofvK)

That is actually quite an accurate explanation as to why MANY on the right get the "dead to me" treatment amongst the Horde

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (XIF9h)

Kinda depends. I mean if you have a spouse that overspends and has some annoying habits, you can live with that. If her one problem is liking other men, well, that's a gamechanger.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

436 Milei just announced he's moving the Argentinian embassy to Jerusalem.
I think I'm in love.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

437 Forget the patch. Get a glass eye.
Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:01 PM (v0R5T)

"This eye patch is a symbol of Justice. And victim hood. And a sure-fire chick magnet."

-The Lone Crenshaw

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (j4U/Z)

438 More work to do. Guess I'll see you all tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression)
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I've got work to do too. But I'd rather hang around here and make stupid jokes.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (v0R5T)

439 425 If nothing else, it casts serious doubt on her political acumen. Did she really think this would be received favorably?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (CsUN+)

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I bet she was told that she was a leader now, and she needed to lead the party on this issue.

A king is only a king as long as he acts like a king.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

440 I know people think he’s playing 3D chess to put the blame on Republicans but I’d rather play it simple and believe he’s changed his mind.

As I said earlier with regard to the 11D chess explanations, I don't think McConnell is that clever. I think he was trying to get the bill, realized it was going down in s***-covered flames, and has now jumped in front of the parade going the other way.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (CsUN+)

441
Think about how retarded social distancing in ND is.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner

Why, over half of the state's population would be Manitoba, Canada!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (xG4kz)

442 >>>that's why the issue is a straw-breaker issue if the pol gets its wrong.
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I think you mean a camel-back-breaker issue.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (PPLn4)

443 just want to point out that presidential budgets never get serious consideration by Congress and using them as defense of presidents for policy preference purposes feels empty since no one, not even the WH team who puts it together, thinks that it has a chance of becoming law or even considered in committee.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Ryan controlled the House at the time. I think it's fair to believe the WH Budget had a chance, had Ryan truly believed what he campaigned on.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (tT6L1)

444 And with that advantage, she misread the base about an emotional issue and sided explicitly with corporate interests.

Her instincts suck. She should lead nothing. She could be a decent follower if kept in line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

Like Trump siding with Disney and Bud Light?

Posted by: Ivory Black at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (MNhXM)

445 Forget the patch. Get a glass eye.
Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:01 PM (v0R5T)

Worked for me

Posted by: Sammy Davis Jr. at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (XIF9h)

446 380 377 Easy to handle six foot 'social distancing' when the population of your state is about one person per square mile.
Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (nIvob)

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Even Rhode Island shut down, and Rhode Island doesn't even exist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

Sadly, DC did NOT shut down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

447 374 She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (YofvK)

That is actually quite an accurate explanation as to why MANY on the right get the "dead to me" treatment amongst the Horde
Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:00 PM (XIF9h

The idea that a bunch of Republican politicians have been agreeing with conservatives 94 percent of the time in any meaningful way, let alone delivering 94 percent of the time, is laughable. If you believe that GOP pols are just too good for us, you're a clown. Sure Noem can't stand up in trans issues (the one issue that many people here were insisting is such a no-brainer that even the left is giving up on it ), but I'm sure she'll be real dependable on everything else. A veritable profile in courage.

Posted by: Noem represents a nothing state and has botched one of the two high-profile issues she's known for at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (UMHqX)

448 Whatever the reason was, SD didn’t have lockdowns while every other state did. She could have issued some executive order or declared a state of emergency or whatever. And she didn’t.

Posted by: Montec
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Goal shifting. She proposed a shitty thing and then took credit when the state leg prevented her from doing a shitty thing. That ain't leadership. She took her lumps because the state leg could override her and there was not enough political support to support her. She is a decent politician but that simply means that she isn't principled.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (ysVwb)

449 Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) indicated that Russia could be behind some of the messaging against the bill

Is he unaware that there are screenshots of relevant portions of the bill posted to Twitter, or is he an idiot?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (zhLdt)

450 I just want to point out that presidential budgets never get serious consideration by Congress and using them as defense of presidents for policy preference purposes feels empty since no one, not even the WH team who puts it together, thinks that it has a chance of becoming law or even considered in committee.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)

Failure theater. You're talking about failure theater!

Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (xhfG9)

451 "This eye patch is a symbol of Justice. And victim hood. And a sure-fire chick magnet."

-The Lone Crenshaw
Posted by: Auspex
......

Not nearly as cool as popping out your glass eye at the bar and dropping it in your beer. Chicks love that.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (v0R5T)

452 a pol's stance on the issue is a tell as to how strongly they'll stick to conservatism overall.

Well put.

I bet she was told that she was a leader now, and she needed to lead the party on this issue.

If you're trying to act like a leader, and not just leading, you're not a leader.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (CsUN+)

453 Posted by: Ivory Black at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (MNhXM)

Oh, good; It's it time for the anti Trump flame wars? (And yes; I think he has flaws. Who doesn't?. I will still vote for him if I'm alive and he's running.

Flame Wars incoming? Think I'll go unclog my sink.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (Ki//m)

454 >>I kinda give zero fucks about girls sports.

I like Swedish women's curling.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (eYF7X)

455 May I remind the Noem haters that SD was the only state to not do any Wuhan flu lockdowns.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:59 PM

She actually asked for the power to do lockdowns but our state congress refused to give it to her. She fought them right up until it became apparent that there might be a political advantage to backing off lockdowns.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (vivhj)

456 I think you mean a camel-back-breaker issue.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 06, 2024 01:11 PM (PPLn4)

Yeah.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (ky+MF)

457 Sammy Davis Jr. had a glass eye?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (9yWhg)

458 Instead he blamed the folks that got the permits to march.

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But wasn't it some Obama person who initially got the permits?
Posted by: Rio Grande Crocodile Dundee at

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Good point.

That certainly would've been a good opportunity for someone with a platform like that to speak up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The RNC is the NRA of the GOP at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (AIJ3L)

459 408 I kinda give zero fucks about girls sports. I do care that she understood early on that Covid was a big load of bullshit. And more importantly didn’t cave to pressure from the media about “safety”.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:06 PM (YofvK)

Gotta agree with that--I'm not a huge fan of the tranny nonsense but it's basically just feminazis eating their young. Branch Covidianism ruined the whole damn world, it affected everyone. One of these things rates much higher than the other on my care-o-meter.

Posted by: CppThis at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (PZvjL)

460 "Fani caught cohabitating in taxpayer funded "safe house" with her taxpayer funded prosecutor lover."

Forty minutes later the post containing this statement comes up as the number 4 hit on DDG.

???

Posted by: pawn at February 06, 2024 01:14 PM (QB+5g)

461 Is he unaware that there are screenshots of relevant portions of the bill posted to Twitter, or is he an idiot?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Yes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 06, 2024 01:14 PM (R4t5M)

462 431 420 Whatever the reason was, SD didn’t have lockdowns while every other state did. She could have issued some executive order or declared a state of emergency or whatever. And she didn’t.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:08 PM (YofvK)

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And with that advantage, she misread the base about an emotional issue and sided explicitly with corporate interests.

Her instincts suck. She should lead nothing. She could be a decent follower if kept in line.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (GBKbO)
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And see my comment above: the way she went about doing it was a "piss in supporters' faces and tell them it's raining" thing. It wasn't for me so much the issue. I've written here many times that boys in girls' sports ain't my circus or monkeys. But it is for a lot of people and Noem fucked the pig on it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 06, 2024 01:14 PM (iFTx/)

463 And Mussolini made the trains run on time. The point is that she outed herself as someone who couldn't be relied on, even for as easy a call as girl's sports.

Actually, no, Mussolini did not make the trains run on time. Fascist Italy was even more corrupt that the previous Italian government.

Posted by: Lance McCormick, pedant at February 06, 2024 01:14 PM (l8gTz)

464 Didn't Ryan say Trump's budget was DOA?

Seems like he did.

As someone else points out here, Republicans have controlled the House for the vast, vast majority of "record spending bills."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 06, 2024 01:14 PM (cSaKW)

465 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (Ki//m)

Take your time scold.

Posted by: Ivory Black at February 06, 2024 01:14 PM (MNhXM)

466 Trump can float Noem and Scott for VP, so he is not racist or misogynist. Maybe it is that simple?

idk, but would be nice to have someone with more substance, and a conservative.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (Cus5s)

467 It’s not like everyone lives on a 20 acre fram isolated from other people in the Dakotas.
Montec

Let the Dakota sneers come. Keeps out the riff raff.
I wouldn't change my state for any of the other 56, just as many people from big states feel.

Posted by: old chick at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (sOete)

468 The GOP may not know how to increase voter turnout, but they're becoming dangerously close to increasing rioter turnout.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (wtvvX)

469 457 Sammy Davis Jr. had a glass eye?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (9yWhg)

Would I? Would I?

Peg leg! Peg Leg!

Posted by: Just the Punchline at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (i9ffA)

470 "There is no border problem. And it's Trump's fault."
Posted by: Oddbob at February 06, 2024 01:07 PM

To be fair, everything bad is.

Posted by: DNC & MSM at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (PbswM)

471 You’ll never find the true Scotsman of Republicans.

Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (YofvK)

472 427 Electricity was off for a day and a half and I have a pile of dishes I couldn't wash
Posted by: It's me donna

You don't have a dog?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:09 PM (9yWhg)

"As clean as Soap and Water can get em' "
"Come here Soap! Come here Water! Good dogs!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

473 Posted by: blaster at February 06, 2024 01:03 PM (xhfG9)

I don't think Trump is stupid.

Posted by: ... at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (oNgxs)

474 South Dakota’s Republican Gov. Kristi Noem banned transgender girls and women from competing on women’s sports teams at public high schools and colleges via a pair of executive orders issued Monday.

Burn her!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (MGqzM)

475 429 Tim Scott finally saw his windsock move and he is now against the bill. Please Donald, do not pick this dullard for VP.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

I'd imagine that Trump wants a hard ass VP that does not want to be prezzie someday. That would be a guarantee against an insurance policy impeachment by the treacherous GOP.

The rest is floating names to keep in the news which is pretty much what is done by both parties when a nominee has sewn up the nomination. About the only political drama around normally (this excludes the ahistorical lawfare attempts at Trump).

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (ysVwb)

476 > I kinda give zero fucks about girls sports.

You sound like the left. If it's not your ox being gored, who cares? It's not a freedom that's important to me, so it's not important.

Scads of lefties don't care about hunting and target shooting and collecting guns, so they think gun rights aren't important. Yes, I'm well aware the 2nd is more than just those things, but trannies in women's spaces is more than "girls sports," too.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (V1QHJ)

477 Nood - No Immunity for you!

Posted by: Doof at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (XIF9h)

478 471 You’ll never find the true Scotsman of Republicans.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM (YofvK)

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Nah. It's Calvin Coolidge.

Zombie Calvin Coolidge or bust!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

479 I forget.. Why do we hate Noem ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 06, 2024 12:39 PM (Akjoo)

She only agrees with you 94% of the time. Anything less than 100% means she’s a commie bitch.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 12:57 PM (YofvK)

After being a patron of this blog for some time now, I find this statement to be true.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (BdMk6)

480 469 457 Sammy Davis Jr. had a glass eye?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 06, 2024 01:13 PM (9yWhg)

Would I? Would I?

Peg leg! Peg Leg!

I dated a girlfriend with a peg-leg once.

I had to break it off.

Posted by: an old joke at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (l8gTz)

481 South Dakota’s Republican Gov. Kristi Noem banned transgender girls and women from competing on women’s sports teams at public high schools and colleges via a pair of executive orders issued Monday.

Burn her!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM

I did that after the rubes backlashed against my veto and after Texas told the NCAA to pound sand. I am a true leader!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 01:17 PM (xttsV)

482 445 Forget the patch. Get a glass eye.
Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:01 PM (v0R5T)

Worked for me
Posted by: Sammy Davis Jr. at February 06, 2024 01:12 PM (XIF9h)

*fist bump*

Posted by: Peter Falk at February 06, 2024 01:17 PM (T+Iwg)

483 What if Mitch is being really devious?
*suspends belief for a few seconds

Is Mitch just trolling Schumer with initial "support" of the bill, only to pull a Lucy and yank the amnesty football away at the last second?

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 06, 2024 01:18 PM (w9Wax)

484 434 Even the least populated states still have cities and towns. It’s not like everyone lives on a 20 acre fram isolated from other people in the Dakotas.
Posted by: Montec at February 06, 2024 01:10 PM (YofvK)

Dude, 20 acres is the size of the farm's strawberry patch. Try 2,000.

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 01:18 PM (j4U/Z)

485 I think Lee Zeldin is the most interesting potential VP pick.

Some have said that Trump is talking to RFK Jr.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 01:18 PM (i9ffA)

486 Let the Dakota sneers come. Keeps out the riff raff.
I wouldn't change my state for any of the other 56, just as many people from big states feel.

Posted by: old chick at February 06, 2024 01:15 PM

I'd move there. Wife has family we care for and owning a business makes it impossible. A buddy of mine is moving there when he retires. No worries. He's a moron like us.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 01:18 PM (MGqzM)

487 I kinda give zero fucks about girls sports.-Montac

You sound like the left

He sounds a lot like Joe Xiden

Posted by: Chuck C at February 06, 2024 01:19 PM (xttsV)

488 ace never says hi to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2024 12:12 P

I'm not Ace, but I will say hi you ! And BTW, I enjoy your comments!

Posted by: Chillin the most at February 06, 2024 01:19 PM (0uQp2)

489 Sammy Davis Jr. had a glass eye?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
......

The accident occurred at a fork in U.S. Route 66 at Cajon Boulevard and Kendall Drive, when a driver, who missed turning at the fork, backed up her car in Davis's lane and he drove into her car. Davis consequently lost his left eye to the bullet-shaped horn button (a standard feature in 1954 and 1955 Cadillacs).

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2024 01:19 PM (v0R5T)

490 483 What if Mitch is being really devious?
*suspends belief for a few seconds

Is Mitch just trolling Schumer with initial "support" of the bill, only to pull a Lucy and yank the amnesty football away at the last second?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 06, 2024 01:18 PM (w9Wax)

Kurt Schlichter was trying to make that case, but where's the advantage for anyone on the Republican side for doing it that way? What would be the point?

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 01:20 PM (i9ffA)

491 And see my comment above: the way she went about doing it was a "piss in supporters' faces and tell them it's raining" thing. It wasn't for me so much the issue. I've written here many times that boys in girls' sports ain't my circus or monkeys. But it is for a lot of people and Noem fucked the pig on it.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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My read as well.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:20 PM (ysVwb)

492 I did that after the rubes backlashed against my veto and after Texas told the NCAA to pound sand. I am a true leader!
Posted by: Kristi Noem at February 06, 2024 01:17 PM

Yet, they are still mad at you because they did what they wanted. Makes sense around here. I know I agree with my wife 100% of the time!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2024 01:20 PM (MGqzM)

493 Zombie Calvin Coolidge or bust!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

Would love to see a Coolidge debate.

"Mr. Coolidge, your response? Mr. Coolidge?"

Posted by: Auspex at February 06, 2024 01:20 PM (j4U/Z)

494 Kurt Schlichter was trying to make that case, but where's the advantage for anyone on the Republican side for doing it that way? What would be the point?
Posted by: Tom Servo
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People argued the same thing about Roberts and the Obamacare decision.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2024 01:21 PM (ysVwb)

495 People argued the same thing about Roberts and the Obamacare decision.
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Da Nile. A river in Egypt.

Posted by: NeverTrump Corp. at February 06, 2024 01:23 PM (fRhCV)

496 Kurt Schlichter was trying to make that case, but where's the advantage for anyone on the Republican side for doing it that way? What would be the point?

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2024 01:20 PM (i9ffA)

It also ignores that McConnell has been for open borders and amnesty for decades. How many times has the GOPe made a push for "comprehensive immigration reform" (i.e., amnesty without any real border security)? Many. Remember W's try at it?

Anyone who thinks McConnell doesn't 100% support the "deal" despite his having to reverse course is a fool.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 01:24 PM (ky+MF)

497 A buddy of mine is moving there when he retires. No worries. He's a moron like us.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Stay away from Fargo and it's a really good quality of life.
Some of the same problems as larger states but in much smaller doses, so easier to ignore. and, for the most part the people here value freedom and aren't in a rush to embrace progressive changes. I guess we are backwards in that respect because lots of us still figure if it ain't broke it don't need fixin'.

Posted by: old chick at February 06, 2024 01:26 PM (sOete)

498 And you can't tell me he didn't see this coming. There were 2 potential outcomes - the bill is passed screwing us, or the GOP votes against the bill and the message becomes the above. Either way a win for the left/open borders crowd.
Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 06, 2024 12:52 PM (ky+MF)

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Especially considering we are constantly told how crafty McConnell is.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 06, 2024 01:27 PM (Y0ZTQ)

499 Some young, enterprising investigative journalist (of which exactly none exist) should work from the supposition that somebody somewhere is getting kickbacks from all these massive gifts of billions of dollars to Ukraine. My intuition says it's happening, not just paying Ukraine muckity mucks but some of those $$ are making their way back to Congress critters.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 06, 2024 01:31 PM (O2QWF)

500 No a few places have seen video and reports this invasion is well funded by globalists and UN. Foodstuffs,

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2024 01:35 PM (fwDg9)

501 If you get on Twitter Dems/left/liberals are claiming Lankford was threatened by Rethuglican Magatards and Bad Orange Man. Threatened with primary challenger or a simple "i'm not voting for you" are totally reasonable. Picket signs outside his house or offices is, too, though GOP/right/conservatives have families and jobs and very little time for that. 24/7 protesting, chasing people into bathrooms, swatting, bricks, firebombs, pistols, more or less in that order are leftist tactics but those get ignored.

Posted by: hurricane567 at February 06, 2024 01:37 PM (uPraa)

502 Loving every bit of this story and comments. Lankford is, indeed, a stupid inexperienced Gollum, but also a longtime symp for illegal aliens. Perfect stoolie for Cocaine Mitch. But so many other utter scumbags in the Senate it's almost hard to narrow it.
Todd Young from my state of Indiana is scum.

Posted by: Jerome at February 06, 2024 02:07 PM (3x7XI)

503 >>>Not nearly as cool as popping out your glass eye at the bar and dropping it in your beer. Chicks love that.
Posted by: wth

Glass eye salt shaker for the ladies' margaritas.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 06, 2024 02:07 PM (YT7cG)

504 But Kirby said that razor wire fences don't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 06, 2024 12:08 PM

Only around the Capitol in DC. Magic or something.

I'd actually like to see a live demonstration of Kirby trying to get through a razor wire fence. Hilarity to ensure.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2024 02:22 PM (oiNtH)

505 Even more important to be aware since the neo-marxists have their targets set on the US churches for takeover. They are using theological concepts and terms, incorrectly, of course, to insert marxism into the bodies. Beware supposed believers with political aims.

Our Methodist church told HQ that we don't want to be in their gay offspring church and we also don't want in their new "Global" version either. We're now fully dis-associated and our pastor costs are down by 50% or more.

However, in reality, this a net win for the Left because they succeeded in pulling out yet another thread from the American fabric.

Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at February 06, 2024 02:29 PM (czkmI)

506 One park in Eagle Pass, Gov Abbott?

Nice. That will get you on Fox News and you will get to continue to con people.

But you know what would be good? Add about 999 miles of border to that. You do that, and you will win friends. Maybe I’ll sing your praises! As will thousands of others.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 06, 2024 03:11 PM (CNd16)

507 McConnell's rumpswabs used to boast about his incredible genius for "the long game." It was actually always the Long Con, and by now everyone sees it leads to nothing poverty, chaos and death for GOP voters. But LOTS of Chamber cash for Mitch and cronies.

Posted by: Jewish Odysseus at February 06, 2024 03:14 PM (bvp+i)

508 First McConnell then all the rest of the RINOs. Start with the National GOP. Send them all to Chicago or NY where they can be carjacked with extreme prejudice. Insure their cars have jewish decals.

Posted by: Jane at February 06, 2024 03:23 PM (EcD5Y)

509 Imma testing sumtin'.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 03:24 PM (ynpvh)

510 success!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 03:24 PM (ynpvh)

511 ~~test 2:~~

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 06, 2024 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

512 All the masks are coming off. The Rinos must be exterminated. As for the Lefturds, they hate America and next to be exterminated.

Posted by: Jane at February 06, 2024 03:31 PM (EcD5Y)

513 I seriously doubt he would want to take the pay cut but getting Jesse Kelly to become the Piece of Furniture of the RNC would change the world. For those who need it Kelly would stiffen spines, remind Electeds that yes they do have balls or lady balls, prevent the Rs from entering every negotiation with the Ds from a position of subservience. Our country needs someone like this - to get the ball rolling. A few victories would show those who need it that losing sucks. Kelly's successes in this regard would encourager les autres.

Posted by: KillGoogleandFacebook at February 06, 2024 03:43 PM (U9oYo)

514 No Amnesty for Illegal Aliens and t hose who beat police officers should rot in prison

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 06, 2024 04:29 PM (wGqjj)

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