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Anthony Fauci: Now That I Think About It, Maybe the Lab Leak Theory Was Not a Racist Conspiracy Theory Like the Paper I Ordered Into Being Claimed

I missed this yesterday: Anthony Fauci, who ordered people dependent on him for grants to write up a fake scientific paper branding the lab leak a racist conspiracy theory and then cited that paper without disclosing his Producer credit on it, now concedes the lab leak is not a conspiracy theory.

Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic

@COVIDSelect

Dr. Fauci acknowledged that the lab-leak hypothesis is not a conspiracy theory.

This comes nearly four years after prompting the publication of the now infamous "Proximal Origin" paper that attempted to vilify and disprove the lab-leak hypothesis.

Robbie Soave:


In recent months, Fauci has denied he ever categorically rejected the possibility that COVID-19 accidentally escaped from a laboratory.
But he faces very serious allegations that he deterred scientific experts from considering it. At issue is "The Proximal Origin of Sars-CoV-2," a paper that appeared in Nature Medicine, a scientific journal, in March 2020 at the very start of the global pandemic. Fauci--who was then head of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)--and Francis Collins--then director of the National Institutes of Health--participated in a conference call with the authors, whose initial openness to a lab leak explanation changed significantly prior to publication. The paper ultimately ruled out a lab leak as not just "unlikely"--the phrasing used in an early draft of the paper--but "improbable."

More recently, Fauci has contended that he always remained open to the idea, but was persuaded by scientific arguments--including those in the proximal origin paper--that a zoonotic spillover was more likely. This claim would be more persuasive if Fauci had not stated over and over and over and over again, in media interviews, that he "strongly favored" the zoonotic origin theory; his subsequent suggestion that he did not lean in either direction is flatly contradicted by his literal words.

Matt Orfalea put together a supercut showing Anthony Fauci repeatedly dismiss the lab leak theory he now claims he was "open" to.

More from Robbie Soave:

It was certainly in Fauci's interest to downplay the possibility that human experimentation on viruses accidentally unleashed COVID-19 upon the world; during his career, Fauci remained one of the foremost advocates of public funding for gain-of-function research, in which scientists manipulate viruses in order to make them deadlier and more transmissible. Fauci and other public health experts have straightforwardly denied that the U.S. funded such research in Wuhan, China, but critics say this is an exercise in semantics. Indeed, EcoHealth Alliance--a U.S. nonprofit that obtained public funding to conduct research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China--was caught actively misleading Pentagon officials about the nature of the experimentation: Peter Daszak, the head of EcoHealth Alliance, advised colleagues to deceive regulators about the fact that the research would be conducted in China under laxer lab safety standards.

A cadre of elite scientists deliberately lied to U.S. security officials in order to spend American tax dollars performing risky experiments under substandard laboratory conditions in a notoriously secretive and authoritarian foreign country.

He also points out that the propaganda media rushed to help Fauci squelch any questions about the Official Story on covid's origins.

Related: Ron DeSantis' Surgeon General declares that the covid jab, much celebrated by Trump even to this very day, is not safe or appropriate for human beings due to their capability of making unwanted revisions to human DNA.

Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo announced on Wednesday that his office is advising against further use of Covid-19 shots, citing the lack of existing safety data and concerns over DNA integration.

"Providers concerned about patient health risks associated with COVID-19 should prioritize patient access to non-mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and treatment," Ladapo said in a statement. "It is my hope that, in regard to COVID-19, the [Food and Drug Administration] will one day seriously consider its regulatory responsibility to protect human health, including the integrity of the human genome."

Wednesday's recommendation came following a back-and-forth between the Florida Department of Health (FLDOH) and the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). On Dec. 6, Ladapo submitted a letter to the federal agencies questioning the "safety assessments and the discovery of billions of DNA fragments per dose of the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccines." The Florida surgeon general specifically cited a recent pre-print study that found "billions to hundreds of billions of DNA molecules per dose in these vaccines" and "preliminary evidence of a dose response relationship of the amount of DNA per dose and the frequency of serious adverse events."

In his letter, Ladapo pressed the FDA and CDC about whether drug manufacturers have evaluated the risks associated with DNA contaminants from the Covid shots and the "DNA integration from the lipid nanoparticle delivery system." As Ladapo explained, lipid nanoparticles act as an "efficient vehicle for delivery of the mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines into human cells, and may therefore be an equally efficient vehicle for delivering contaminant DNA into human cells."

Ladapo also questioned the FDA's existing safety standards and whether it and the CDC have probed the "risk of DNA integration in reproductive cells with respect to the lipid nanoparticle delivery system."

According to the Florida Department of Health's Wednesday press release, the FDA responded to Ladapo on Dec. 14 with a note that purportedly contained "no evidence" any analyses of DNA integration had been undertaken to "address risks" the agency itself had raised in years prior.

"DNA integration poses a unique and elevated risk to human health and to the integrity of the human genome, including the risk that DNA integrated into sperm or egg gametes could be passed onto offspring of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients," Ladapo said. "If the risks of DNA integration have not been assessed for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, these vaccines are not appropriate for use in human beings."

But I'm reliably informed that you can barely tell the difference between Trump and DeSantis on these issues.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:20 PM




Comments

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1 !

Posted by: barbarausa at January 12, 2024 05:21 PM (enw9G)

2 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2024 05:23 PM (qoGsy)

3 It was just temporarily debunked.

Posted by: People Who Change The Meaning of Words at January 12, 2024 05:24 PM (krQz2)

4 Fauci needs to meet the front end of a Mack truck doing 90.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 12, 2024 05:24 PM (Q4IgG)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2024 05:24 PM (T4tVD)

6 4 Fauci needs to meet the front end of a Mack truck doing 90.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 12, 2024 05:24 PM (Q4IgG)

He needs to be caged with he head exposed to sandflies.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:25 PM (ynpvh)

7 I will say again, I am terribly sad that Anthony Fauci is too old to hope that he will spend the remaining 25 years of his life hiding in a slum living in poverty in southern Brazil in fear of discovery.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 12, 2024 05:26 PM (D7oie)

8 This just in:

Anthony Fraudci is a fraud.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:26 PM (krQz2)

9 So the Gov't couldn't force us regular citizens to get the EXPERIMENTAL jab...but they COULD force businesses to force their employees to get the jab. Tell me how that's different?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:26 PM (ynpvh)

10 Fauci represents government bureaucrats very, very well.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (i7Q7S)

11 So you are a liar, as has been proven time and again. Let's keep letting this asshole ruin our lives why don't we?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (ZQo7S)

12

He must have a miniscule schwanstucker!

Posted by: Inga at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (K7/OQ)

13 Fauci and everyone involved in promulgating this BS needs to be hanged. It is literally a crime against humanity.

The sad thing about it is we and China were responsible for it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (YRsIm)

14 Smug little dickwad.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (NvyWM)

15 So the Gov't couldn't force us regular citizens to get the EXPERIMENTAL jab...but they COULD force businesses to force their employees to get the jab. Tell me how that's different?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:26 PM (ynpvh)


Communism bad. Fascism good.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (D7oie)

16 I'm out. Gonna watch some Vietnam SOG interviews.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (BdMk6)

17 7 I will say again, I am terribly sad that Anthony Fauci is too old to hope that he will spend the remaining 25 years of his life hiding in a slum living in poverty in southern Brazil in fear of discovery.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 12, 2024 05:26 PM (D7oie)

I hear certain renditioning techniques make if feel worse that that in a much shorter time...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (ynpvh)

18 Ha, ha, charade you are

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (krQz2)

19 >>But I'm reliably informed that you can barely tell the difference between Trump and DeSantis on these issues.


Wait 10 Days.

The one still in contention for the Republican nomination in 10 days is Trump.

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (RVloE)

20 As Rick Blaine said about the waters in Casablanca, “I was misinformed.” Except these assholes are the ones who belong in jail.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (as3uC)

21 Absolutely right. The ingrate DeSantis merely copies Trump in everything he says he believes. I am able to assimilate these kind of discordant thoughts because I like to reason backward and elide the parts where I get uncomfortable.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (DWqKI)

22 Not really on board with a Trump-DeSantis fight! Fight! Fight! thread with the usual trolls showing up. No; I don't worship Trump and I like DeSantis, and I think Trump makes mistakes. I do think that if he does get the nomination suddenly we'll hear that Fauci warned him of the risks and people who got the jab will suddenly be given prominence and it will all be Trump's fault.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (Ki//m)

23 12

He must have a miniscule schwanstucker!

Posted by: Inga at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (K7/OQ)

He puts it where? Poor Swans...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (ynpvh)

24 So the Gov't couldn't force us regular citizens to get the EXPERIMENTAL jab...but they COULD force businesses to force their employees to get the jab. Tell me how that's different?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:26 PM (ynpvh)

Communism bad. Fascism good.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 12, 2024 05:27 PM (D7oie)
---
Fascism is so close to Democrats, they can't even see it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:29 PM (krQz2)

25 I hear certain renditioning techniques make if feel worse that that in a much shorter time...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:28 PM (ynpvh)


I want him to wake up every morning for the rest of his life aware that the only people who don't want him dead don't care that he is alive

Posted by: Kindltot at January 12, 2024 05:29 PM (D7oie)

26 Good afternoon everyone.
Posted by: Tonypete


hiya
Posted by: JT


Hola vecinos.

Posted by: your New Neighbor at January 12, 2024 05:29 PM (v0R5T)

27 Can someone remind me, didn't some consortium of "scientists" change the definition of gain of function so that Fauci could go out and scream that everyone talking about GoF had no idea what they were saying? I'm pretty sure Doktor Science whipped this little Trump card out when Rand Paul was grilling him.

If so, how long until we find out Fauci gave that group a financial incentive to change the definition?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 05:30 PM (R38qh)

28 Using middlemen to fund research gave them deniability but also more opportunities for laundering and graft.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 12, 2024 05:30 PM (ZQo7S)

29 Fauci should be facing a Nuremberg trial for mass murder after he financed the Gain of Function research performed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

We paid China to create the COVID 19 Virus.

Posted by: rd at January 12, 2024 05:30 PM (uCe/v)

30 27 Can someone remind me, didn't some consortium of "scientists" change the definition of gain of function so that Fauci could go out and scream that everyone talking about GoF had no idea what they were saying? I'm pretty sure Doktor Science whipped this little Trump card out when Rand Paul was grilling him.

If so, how long until we find out Fauci gave that group a financial incentive to change the definition?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 05:30 PM (R38qh)

Gain of Function is like growing a dick, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:31 PM (ynpvh)

31 And Fauci is no doubt working on the next biological weapon that makes a disease that is 10 times worse than Covid to help his WEF masters cut down on the "surplus Population."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:31 PM (Ki//m)

32 Can I vote against Biden this fall?

Posted by: sven at January 12, 2024 05:31 PM (X0I7i)

33 32 Can I vote against Biden this fall?

Posted by: sven at January 12, 2024 05:31 PM (X0I7i)

In a manner of speaking, yes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:32 PM (ynpvh)

34 the junta wants to sic SCOTUS on Texas

Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:32 PM (geLO8)

35 "DNA integration poses a unique and elevated risk to human health and to the integrity of the human genome, including the risk that DNA integrated into sperm or egg gametes could be passed onto offspring of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients,"
=
Assuming those offspring are even viable

Posted by: Methos at January 12, 2024 05:32 PM (Dnobf)

36 >Can I vote against Biden this fall?

Posted by: sven
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you can try

Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:32 PM (geLO8)

37 If I never have to hear Fauci's fey little Woody Allen accent again, it'll be too soon.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 05:32 PM (R38qh)

38 Might have been a lab. Might have been a retriever.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (63Dwl)

39 Anthony Fauci, the face of crimes against humanity.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (gxokI)

40 38 Might have been a lab. Might have been a retriever.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (63Dwl)


It was just a drawing...a labradoodle.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (ynpvh)

41 I remain shocked every day that some irate family member, grieving from loss, hasn't taken that little fucking troll out in a painful method that will make waves across the lefty head space.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (RKdy/)

42 Dude needs to go away already.

His shit is stale.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (R/m4+)

43 Fauci still claims he had nothing to do with lockdowns.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (63Dwl)

44 Hola vecinos.
Posted by: your New Neighbor

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (T4tVD)

45 I like that Trump still crows about how fast he got the jab done.

I use it all the time about "Trump cultists". It's a huge disagreement between the people who are most likely to vote for him and his metro self.

"MAGAts would eat shit if El Trumpo told them."

No, moron, they won't even take medicine he facilitated!

However, my wife swears by the monocolonal antibody treatment (another r-word I can't think of right now) he pushed to make widely available. One day she felt like there was no point to living--which is not like her at all--and a day after treatment back to herself.

So, Trump still endorses the Jab? I don't care.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (krQz2)

46 Are AWFLs still buying Saint Fauci kitsch?

Or have they moved on to Hamas Kills Jooos, Yay! kitsch?

Posted by: Gref at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (5fDan)

47 43 Fauci still claims he had nothing to do with lockdowns.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (63Dwl)

It would be instructive to see if wearing a mask protects him against a firing squad.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (ynpvh)

48 This is not an issues election.

This is a who can stand against the full double barrel crossed streams thermonuclear onslaught of the left.

Ron ain't it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 12, 2024 05:35 PM (D3P8c)

49 I feel kinda dirty that this one time in early 2020, for like three days, I thought this guy might be mostly on the level. It is not a mistake I intend to make again.

Posted by: CppThis at January 12, 2024 05:35 PM (PZvjL)

50 > Fauci still claims he had nothing to do with lockdowns.

"Don't blame me, I just set guidelines."

--Fauci

"Don't blame me, I just followed Fauci's guidelines."

--Everyone who locked down the world and punished people who resisted the lockdowns

Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 05:36 PM (R38qh)

51 I find I still can't discuss this dispassionately.

I might be back later.

Posted by: Kindltot sez "Atlavey Ooma-Kasma!" at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (D7oie)

52 If so, how long until we find out Fauci gave that group a financial incentive to change the definition?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 05:30 PM (R38qh)
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We will find indicators, but not enough to silence the willful deniers and stakeholders.

Plenty of people still think that a bribe to Biden needs to have "Bribe" in the memo.

They have a psychic wiretap into how Trump thinks, but they can't even follow a shell-game with cutouts and shell companies.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (krQz2)

53 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (HLpdd)

54 And Fauci will get big money from Big Pharma and China to support a vaccine that doesn't cause people to not get the disease but causes-like Covid Shots- all kind of horrible side effects.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (Ki//m)

55 > Fauci still claims he had nothing to do with lockdowns.


but...
he is Science, made flesh

Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (geLO8)

56 Fauci needs to swing...slowly, for a couple of days. Then quartered.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 12, 2024 05:38 PM (XMwZJ)

57 54 And Fauci will get big money from Big Pharma and China to support a vaccine that doesn't cause people to not get the disease but causes-like Covid Shots- all kind of horrible side effects.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (Ki//m)

That way Pfizer can sell you their new heart and other medications to help with the long-term side-effects...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:38 PM (ynpvh)

58 Well, looks like the GOP has another weapon to use when they react to this story.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 12, 2024 05:38 PM (tT6L1)

59 48 This is not an issues election.

This is a who can stand against the full double barrel crossed streams thermonuclear onslaught of the left.

Ron ain't it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 12, 2024 05:35 PM (D3P8c)

======

Ron DeSantis is the Scott Walker of 2024. The big Money Donors and DC Lobbyists bought his campaign and tanked it.

Posted by: rd at January 12, 2024 05:39 PM (uCe/v)

60 but...
he is Science, made flesh
Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (geLO
---
In the beginning was the Science...

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:39 PM (krQz2)

61 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:38 PM (ynpvh)

Yep; I'm so old I remember when leftists were not all on board with Big Pharma.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (Ki//m)

62 I was in the breakroom/kitchen at my office, and saw a box of little hand sanitizers. Cool. I like to keep the filth off my hands. next to it was a box of face diapers.

fuck. I am worried that Guv Polesmoker might be up to something and my company may be preparing.

Well. I work at home sometimes. I can work at home some more.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Excuse me, I speak Southern at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (T/Lqj)

63 God? I mean the real God, doesn't think highly of people who pretend to be god.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (NvyWM)

64 56 Fauci needs to swing...slowly, for a couple of days. Then quartered.

_____

He needs to be eaten alive by fleas

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (ZQo7S)

65 It tends to be overlooked that there is in fact a protein vaccine that doesn't have the issues of the mRNA vaccine
http://tinyurl.com/3fmtszup

Posted by: Pervy Grin at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (1y7dp)

66 The entire assault on Trump via the Vax is pretty retarded.

He didn't throw on a lab coat and bust out the Erlenmeyer flask and petri dishes.
He was forced into a situation where the State Apparatchiks demanded a Vaccine for any pathway to a return to normalcy.

He looked at the hurdles involved in doing that and said, let's get rid of these so the fine people in our Public and Private Health Institutions can facilitate achieving this objective.

That's it. That's all he did.

Does he brag about that too much? Yep.
Trump.

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (RVloE)

67 63 God? I mean the real God, doesn't think highly of people who pretend to be god.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (NvyWM)

I think the word is blasphemy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 05:41 PM (ynpvh)

68 Yep; I'm so old I remember when leftists were not all on board with Big Pharma.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (Ki//m)
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They used to warn us against the CIA and the IC in general.

They thought the CIA was going all over the world doing nefarious things "for Country".

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:41 PM (krQz2)

69 It is amazing to me the levels of perfidy people would undertake simply to "get Trump."

Posted by: blaster at January 12, 2024 05:41 PM (IFNME)

70 Meh. Truth will out over the years but Fauci's evil is so pervasive that deserves trial, sentence, and execution for just what he pulled with poor orphans regarding AIDS. Perfect example of a person devoid of any empathy that views their suffering as a profit making and power grabbing opportunity.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 05:41 PM (gvoQe)

71 I think I'll go have dinner and watch a movie with the family. Sounds a whole lot better than thinking anymore about evil gnome Fauci.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2024 05:42 PM (Ki//m)

72 Well, looks like the GOP has another weapon to use when they react to this story.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 12, 2024 05:38 PM (tT6L1)

Our weapons are: not the hill to die on, we can work with the Democrats, and that's not who we are!

Posted by: GOP at January 12, 2024 05:42 PM (Angsy)

73 *removes topic-specific nic addendum*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at January 12, 2024 05:42 PM (T/Lqj)

74 Does he brag about that too much? Yep.
Trump.

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (RVloE)
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You have a good grasp.

Trump is a double-edged sword some time.

But he's our double-edged sword.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:42 PM (krQz2)

75 @30

>>Gain of Function is like growing a dick, right?

No, it's having a dick and then getting an extra dick, but the extra dick is girthy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 12, 2024 05:43 PM (XV/Pl)

76 66 The entire assault on Trump via the Vax is pretty retarded.

indeed. most of the vax world moved on to alpha ages ago, then to itanium, and are now poised to invade x86.

Posted by: anachronda at January 12, 2024 05:44 PM (v3pYe)

77 Hey, Ace, I'm glad you highlighted a good thing that DeSantis has done. I like DeSantis and appreciate hearing about his policies and accomplishments.

But this doesn't mean I have to hate Trump. Both of these candidates are people I would love to see in office.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2024 05:44 PM (N5qKs)

78 Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2024 05:40 PM (RVloE)

Wow! Keep talking like that and Ace may make you sleep on the couch.

Posted by: just saying... at January 12, 2024 05:44 PM (Angsy)

79 Like most women, Ace frequently gets hysterical.

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2024 05:45 PM (RVloE)

80 This man should be in jail.

Posted by: vic at January 12, 2024 05:46 PM (A5THL)

81 But I'm reliably informed that you can barely tell the difference between Trump and DeSantis on these issues.

_____

It is funny that the issues that most animate Trumpers are Epstein and the Covid vaccine. And Trump doesn't have clean hands with either.

Posted by: Blago at January 12, 2024 05:46 PM (nOwMR)

82 Even the dollar store has stopped selling Fauci candles.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 12, 2024 05:47 PM (kxx6d)

83 "People are dead up behind this thing."
~Bunk Moreland, The Wire

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Hobos and Associated Hermits at January 12, 2024 05:47 PM (dzZCL)

84 It is amazing to me the levels of perfidy people would undertake simply to "get Trump."

Posted by: blaster
-------

There are no rules where the Left are concerned. Character, morality, self-respect, integrity, none of those things matter. They care only about seizing power, and exercising control.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2024 05:49 PM (XeU6L)

85 Weaseley Wabbit!!

*Ride of the Valkyries plays in the background

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at January 12, 2024 05:50 PM (DsA2n)

86 The various covid vaccines dicked around with RNA, right?

So, what happens to kids who's parents got one (or more) of the vaccines and gave birth to a kid with potentially dicked RNA/DNA?

Presume for a minute the kid doesn't die a premature death, doesn't suffer from any outward genetic abnormalities, but has "dicked" DNA.

And then has kids.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 12, 2024 05:50 PM (Q4IgG)

87 @66

>>That's it. That's all he did.

Part and parcel to that was the shutting down of consideration for any other prophylactic treatments, like HCQ and Ivermectin.

I'd also really like someone to dig into who told Trump and suggested HCQ and Ivermectin, because many people don't know that both of them had long been considered as candidates for broad based anti-virals, Fauchi actually gave a talk on both in 2013.

The Plandemic was an Op, like Russia Collusion and the Mueller investigation were and Op, the main target of the Op was Trump, and it's wasn't wave his hand and make it all go away, being an Op being run at level above and beyond the President.

The Rus

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 12, 2024 05:50 PM (XV/Pl)

88 Even the dollar store has stopped selling Fauci candles.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 12, 2024 05:47 PM (kxx6d)
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Limited market for scented candles that smell like ass.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:51 PM (krQz2)

89 That's it. That's all he did.

Does he brag about that too much? Yep.
Trump.

Posted by: garrett
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Normal commenters have pretty much gotten disgusted with the debate and have tuned out. It is more or less only the die hards that continue to argue with a few new nic trolls added to the punch.

I think the new question after Iowa will be Nikki or Trump as Ron from all reports has faded in the stretch there. NH or SC are not favorable terrain for him either. Ron's team could have made like Vivek has with policy arguments as the centerpiece but that would also mean clarifying policies that divide the voters from the donors like Ukraine, immigration, the economy, government overspending, the compromised elections by Dems in 2020 and 2022 etc.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 05:52 PM (gvoQe)

90 Ron DeSantis' Surgeon General declares that the covid jab, much celebrated by Trump even to this very day, is not safe or appropriate for human beings due to their capability of making unwanted revisions to human DNA.

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Man, I can remember when people here were chiding commenters for this conspiracy theory.

BTW, it's "revisions" that can be passed down through generations. Your DNA is changed and you give that to your offspring, and they give it to theirs.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 12, 2024 05:52 PM (/TehT)

91 However, my wife swears by the monocolonal antibody treatment (another r-word I can't think of right now) he pushed to make widely available.
Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:34 PM (krQz2


Yes, Trump made monoclonal antibody treatments available and then after Biden was installed, his administration started restricting who could have access to those treatments.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2024 05:52 PM (N5qKs)

92 88 Even the dollar store has stopped selling Fauci candles.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 12, 2024 05:47 PM (kxx6d)
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Limited market for scented candles that smell like ass.


*takes notes*

Posted by: gwyneth paltrow at January 12, 2024 05:52 PM (v3pYe)

93 Truth will out over the years but Fauci's evil is so pervasive that deserves trial, sentence, and execution for just what he pulled with poor orphans regarding AIDS. Perfect example of a person devoid of any empathy that views their suffering as a profit making and power grabbing opportunity.
Posted by: whig
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St. Peter: "Now, Tony, about those dogs that you tortured..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2024 05:52 PM (XeU6L)

94 Is it time for the Disney post, yet?

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at January 12, 2024 05:53 PM (Rbu5d)

95 but...
he is Science, made flesh
Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (geLO
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In the beginning was the Science...
Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:39 PM (krQz2)

Peer Review Incarnate.

Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2024 05:54 PM (MMfmF)

96 The psychotic little runt still has an indictment against him at the International Court of Justice for crimes against humanity for his experiments on African American twin toddlers early in the AIDS plague. USA doesn't recognize the jurisdiction of CT for us citizens so it's just out there. Horrible human being

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 12, 2024 05:55 PM (O8bOp)

97 Fauci doesn't have an "I love me" wall. He has an "I love me" *house*. I wonder how long he's been a megalomaniac.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 12, 2024 05:55 PM (nC+QA)

98 At Air Current, Boeing CEO introduces today's new NewSpeak term: "quality escape." We used to call it a "defect," but now it's called a quality escape. Every day brings some novel absurdity.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at January 12, 2024 05:56 PM (MvF+J)

99 Perfect example of a person devoid of any empathy that views their suffering as a profit making and power grabbing opportunity.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024


You have just defined Antisocial Personality Disorder.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at January 12, 2024 05:57 PM (DsA2n)

100 new NewSpeak term: "quality escape."

LOL

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 12, 2024 05:57 PM (ufFY8)

101 Anthony Fauci: Maybe I am the diabolical evil piece of monkey shit motherf*cker that people think I am.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 12, 2024 05:57 PM (VwHCD)

102 It's far down on my list of what I don't like about Trump, but him giving total immunity to the Big pharma companies making the Covid vaccine was pretty bad.

And don't tell me this was something "Ronald Reagan did" and not Trump. His administration very specifically granted this.

http://tinyurl.com/5n8ckrwa

Posted by: Blago at January 12, 2024 05:57 PM (nOwMR)

103

Tony, tell me again about all the time you spent in gay bathhouses...

*flops bunny slippers*

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at January 12, 2024 05:57 PM (K7/OQ)

104 Here we go. Shenanigans afoot in the Iowa caucuses with connections to the DeSantis people:

http://tinyurl.com/2h9fpp8a

If this turns out to be true, then there is absolutely no denying that Ron DeSantis is the GOPe/Uniparty's boy.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (nXhkX)

105 Do a survey across all the various Reservations. "Are there any among you who have knowledge of The Old Ways?"

Turn Fauci over to the best candidates.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (8AONa)

106 Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 12, 2024 05:55 PM (O8bOp)

Even without recognizing the International Court, a good thing in general that the government doesn't, how in God's name was he allowed anywhere near government medical policy after what he did?! Much less to become the longest serving public "servant".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (nC+QA)

107 but...
he is Science, made flesh
Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (geLO
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In the beginning was the Science...
Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:39 PM (krQz2)

Peer Review Incarnate.
Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2024 05:54 PM (MMfmF)
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Real peer review or circle-jerk "peer review"?

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (krQz2)

108 At Air Current, Boeing CEO introduces today's new NewSpeak term: "quality escape." We used to call it a "defect," but now it's called a quality escape. Every day brings some novel absurdity.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at January 12, 2024 05:56 PM (MvF+J)

Modern business communications really has turned bullshitting into a fucking art form, man.

Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (MMfmF)

109 Fauci is the greatest serial killer in American history.

Hidden in plain sight.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 12, 2024 05:59 PM (tT6L1)

110 @106 the elite protect their own

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 12, 2024 05:59 PM (O8bOp)

111 38 Might have been a lab. Might have been a retriever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (63Dwl)

That is a lie sir…on behalf of all “retrievers” we demand a retraction !!!

It was a fuqing chihuahua

Posted by: browndog taking umbrage at your accusation at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (TTAGa)

112 Fauci needs to be put in stocks with his hindquarters exposed to pineappling and his head in a box full of biting insects.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (NvyWM)

113 @109

>>Fauci is the greatest serial killer in American history. Hidden in plain sight.

Technically, he's a global serial killer and deserves to meat the business end of an industrial wood chipper.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (XV/Pl)

114 Fauci needs to be put in stocks with his hindquarters exposed to pineappling and his head in a box full of biting insects.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (NvyWM)

Bring in the Harley powered pear of anguish.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 12, 2024 06:01 PM (VwHCD)

115 At Air Current, Boeing CEO introduces today's new NewSpeak term: "quality escape." We used to call it a "defect," but now it's called a quality escape. Every day brings some novel absurdity.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at January 12, 2024 05:56 PM (MvF+J)

That is the utterance of the kind of man who uses "interface" as a verb.

Posted by: Vanya at January 12, 2024 06:01 PM (H5IZ1)

116 Is there still a significant percentage of the population who worship miniMengele?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 06:01 PM (NvyWM)

117 new NewSpeak term: "quality escape."
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What we used to call 'Survivors'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2024 06:01 PM (XeU6L)

118

Send him on vacation in Arkham...

Posted by: C'thulhu at January 12, 2024 06:02 PM (K7/OQ)

119 No Fauci did not and will not admit that it leaked from a Lab, because he was FUNDING THE LAB.

Yes, the US government funded the creation of the virus, that took the Civil Rights of 100's of Millions of Americans.

They cannot admit this...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:02 PM (xaFKb)

120 Do a survey across all the various Reservations. "Are there any among you who have knowledge of The Old Ways?"

Turn Fauci over to the best candidates.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (8AONa)

How about the new ways, which involve sand paper, acid, vats, and tanks of liquid nitrogen?

Posted by: Just Lily at January 12, 2024 06:03 PM (RLLZj)

121 I know a few things about airplanes and quality escape.

Posted by: D.B. Cooper at January 12, 2024 06:03 PM (DsA2n)

122 Matching our death rate with the rest of the world.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 12, 2024 06:03 PM (J8LnB)

123 At Air Current, Boeing CEO introduces today's new NewSpeak term: "quality escape." We used to call it a "defect," but now it's called a quality escape. Every day brings some novel absurdity.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at January 12, 2024 05:56 PM (MvF+J)

Quality... escape... is that what ya callz it when ya get sucked out of an airliner, because the door failed?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:03 PM (xaFKb)

124 You have just defined Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks
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He shares that disorder with most of the Biden junta.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (gvoQe)

125 Might have been a lab. Might have been a retriever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (63Dwl)

That is a lie sir…on behalf of all “retrievers” we demand a retraction !!!

It was a fuqing chihuahua
Posted by: browndog taking umbrage at your accusation at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (TTAGa)
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I heard it was beagles.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (krQz2)

126
Someone close to Fauci videotaped him trying to convince a young African-American male to get the vaccine. Said male, who I'd like to shake hands with and congratulate, was having nothing to do with it and basically said - that if you have to pay people to get the vax I want nothing to do with it.

But then Fauci says the thing that will ultimately get him swinging from a rope - to paraphrase - that we've been working on this vaccine for 20 years.

The person who is videotaping gets into the car with Fauci at the end. So it's someone on the inside who knows how demonic that little troll is and provided the rope from which Fauci will eventually hang. I saw it with my own eyes and hope its been saved to the internet 'Wayback Machine'.

/ all I gotta say

Posted by: New IP New Nic at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (nIvob)

127 I know a few things about airplanes and quality escape.

Posted by: D.B. Cooper at January 12, 2024 06:03 PM (DsA2n)
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So do I--and the people in my row.

Posted by: Spontaneous Fartbag at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (krQz2)

128 >>>>If this turns out to be true, then there is absolutely no denying that Ron DeSantis is the GOPe/Uniparty's boy.

Posted by: IrishE
------------------

To know that answer one must only look to his donors.

Or ask; how does one's IP become banned in the middle of the day?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (tZ+ct)

129 116 Is there still a significant percentage of the population who worship miniMengele?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 06:01 PM (NvyWM)

Even with all the actual data saying masks don't do crap... mask use is on the rise here in Clownifornia.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (xaFKb)

130 Bring in the Harley powered pear of anguish.
Posted by: Berserker
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Shovelhead, just for panache.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2024 06:05 PM (XeU6L)

131 Matching our death rate with the rest of the world.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 12, 2024 06:03 PM (J8LnB)
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There needs to be equity.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 06:05 PM (krQz2)

132 They cannot admit this...
Posted by: Romeo13
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CIA is balls deep in that with Fauci's partner in crime Dasczak and Eco Health.

Deep State is both corrupt and incompetent and overall quite evil.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 06:05 PM (gvoQe)

133 125 Might have been a lab. Might have been a retriever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 12, 2024 05:33 PM (63Dwl)

That is a lie sir…on behalf of all “retrievers” we demand a retraction !!!

It was a fuqing chihuahua
Posted by: browndog taking umbrage at your accusation at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (TTAGa)
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I heard it was beagles.
Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (krQz2)

The Beagles... did they sing Doghouse California?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:06 PM (xaFKb)

134 Even with all the actual data saying masks don't do crap... mask use is on the rise here in Clownifornia.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (xaFKb)
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Unfortunately, something I was reading recently pertains to this. It's part of human name that the duped become stakeholders in the dupe itself.

This is a statement of our fucking politics.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 06:07 PM (krQz2)

135 113 @109

>>Fauci is the greatest serial killer in American history. Hidden in plain sight.

Technically, he's a global serial killer and deserves to meat the business end of an industrial wood chipper.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 12, 2024 06:00 PM (XV/Pl)

Nah, guy who outlawed DDT still holds the record.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:07 PM (xaFKb)

136 110 @106 the elite protect their own
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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That sort of behavior ends up where the entire class is collectively punished when things go south as commie-socialism always does.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 06:08 PM (gvoQe)

137
The Beagles... did they sing Doghouse California?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:06 PM (xaFKb)

I dunno. But somebody saw three dogs and they were in the night.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 12, 2024 06:08 PM (RLLZj)

138 Even with all the actual data saying masks don't do crap... mask use is on the rise here in Clownifornia.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (xaFKb)

The rise of massive retail theft might be some of that. Don't want to get ID'd.

Posted by: Vanya at January 12, 2024 06:08 PM (H5IZ1)

139 It's part of human name that the duped become stakeholders in the dupe itself.

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 06:07 PM (krQz2)\
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human nature. Not "name".

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 06:08 PM (krQz2)

140 Unfortunately, something I was reading recently pertains to this. It's part of human name that the duped become stakeholders in the dupe itself.
-----

Once they have been co-opted, it's all cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2024 06:10 PM (XeU6L)

141 107 but...
he is Science, made flesh
Posted by: Don Black at January 12, 2024 05:37 PM (geLO
---
In the beginning was the Science...
Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:39 PM (krQz2)

Peer Review Incarnate.
Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2024 05:54 PM (MMfmF)
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Real peer review or circle-jerk "peer review"?

Posted by: Axeman at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (krQz2)

Gay Human Centipede circle-jerk peer review.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 06:10 PM (ynpvh)

142 But then Fauci says the thing that will ultimately get him swinging from a rope - to paraphrase - that we've been working on this vaccine for 20 years.

-

And that's why we had to get it pushed onto the public this way. It would never pass the trials in those 20 years, but now no one is going to say a thing because 150M+ people had multiple doses and there wasn't one single negative side effect ever.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 12, 2024 06:11 PM (/TehT)

143 Random childhood memory: the Beagle Boys were the criminals in the Scrooge McDuck comic books.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 06:12 PM (NvyWM)

144 Temps dropping here. At 23 going to 13 with wind going up to 35.
Nurse. Button down on the ferry ride.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2024 06:12 PM (W/lyH)

145 CIA is balls deep in that with Fauci's partner in crime Dasczak and Eco Health.

Deep State is both corrupt and incompetent and overall quite evil.
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Absorbing the finest minds of the third reich probably has something to do with that.

Posted by: Methos at January 12, 2024 06:12 PM (Dnobf)

146 The Beagle Boys carried bags of loot marked with dollar signs. I imagine Hunter does the same thing.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 12, 2024 06:14 PM (NvyWM)

147 The only very slim advantage that Dr. "I don't practice my religion anymore" Fauci has over Biden is that he is compos mentis enough to repent of everything he's done.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at January 12, 2024 06:16 PM (fDjFn)

148 144 Temps dropping here. At 23 going to 13 with wind going up to 35.
Nurse. Button down on the ferry ride.
Posted by: Diogenes

My boat going in to work this morning was the last to make it before they shut it down for the morning due to the windy conditions on Elliot Bay. It just started up again. Hopefully I can get home before the shtf.

It's 19 downtown. Brrrrrrr

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 12, 2024 06:16 PM (fg15Q)

149 OMG Canada is a joke of a fake country.

A communications officer for Quebec's local police force told people not to share video of porch pirates because doing so may violate the porch pirate's private life and presumption of innocence.

Got that? Direct physical evidence of a crime cannot be shared because the subject of the video has a presumption of innocence and legal proof of the crime violates that right.

I suppose we now can expect the RCMP crime labs to shut down because the evidence they gather cannot be shared, and is therefore not fit for the purpose of proof in a court of law. We don't want to violate anyone's presumption of innocence, do we?

http://tiny.cc/mii0wz

Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 06:16 PM (R38qh)

150 quality escape >>> landing escape
_________

My next flight on any airline is never.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 12, 2024 06:16 PM (Q4IgG)

151 At Air Current, Boeing CEO introduces today's new NewSpeak term: "quality escape." We used to call it a "defect," but now it's called a quality escape. Every day brings some novel absurdity.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at January 12, 2024 05:56 PM (MvF+J)

Defect is itself a NewSpeak term meaning Made Badly.

Quality Escape is to garbage of a term to be able to hide the truth for long. Someone should tell Boeing that their door plug made and Airplane Escape because the restraining bolts had made a Quality Escape earlier.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 12, 2024 06:17 PM (eoQWY)

152 Absorbing the finest minds of the third reich probably has something to do with that.
Posted by: Methos
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Eugenicists in the US predate those creeps even along with POS Woodrow Wilson's American Reich during WWI.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 06:17 PM (gvoQe)

153 quality escape >>> landing escape
_________

My next flight on any airline is never.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 12, 2024 06:16 PM (Q4IgG)

Watch out for falling door plugs.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 12, 2024 06:17 PM (eoQWY)

154 This is ground shaking news. Fauci found something that racism doesn't cause.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 12, 2024 06:17 PM (YqDXo)

155 Nood.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 12, 2024 06:18 PM (qoGsy)

156 there wasn't one single negative side effect ever.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 12, 2024 06:11 PM (/TehT)


This week, I heard a nurse recount a couple of vaxxed people who died (suddenly) or are dying (turbo cancer) and she attributed it to them contracting Covid. She did not seem to notice that if the shots worked, these people would not have had Covid.

Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2024 06:19 PM (N5qKs)

157 Eugenicists in the US predate those creeps even along with POS Woodrow Wilson's American Reich during WWI.
Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 06:17 PM (gvoQe)

Imagine the luck scientific eugenicists have to never be a member of the group that needs to be culled out. Their was a bit of a quiver when for a while European Brain sizes were beat out by some Islanders or Africans.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 12, 2024 06:19 PM (eoQWY)

158 > Temps dropping here. At 23 going to 13 with wind going up to 35.
___________

1 1/3 inches of rain today. Winds up around 30+ MPH (which is not bad... unless you're in a mobile home) and temps expected to drop into the low 20's tonight.

Wind chills in the single digits.

The weekend will be... frosty. And power outages are a given.

And the generator is being stubborn.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 12, 2024 06:20 PM (Q4IgG)

159 152 Absorbing the finest minds of the third reich probably has something to do with that.
Posted by: Methos
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Eugenicists in the US predate those creeps even along with POS Woodrow Wilson's American Reich during WWI.

Posted by: whig at January 12, 2024 06:17 PM (gvoQe)

the much-lauded Oliver Wendell Holmes had a few words to say about it:
"Three Generations of Imbeciles are Enough". Well, he should have applied that to the entire Dem party.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 12, 2024 06:20 PM (ynpvh)

160 I suppose we now can expect the RCMP crime labs to shut down because the evidence they gather cannot be shared, and is therefore not fit for the purpose of proof in a court of law. We don't want to violate anyone's presumption of innocence, do we?

http://tiny.cc/mii0wz
Posted by: bonhomme at January 12, 2024 06:16 PM (R38qh)

If they are anything like St Louis' crime labs they will still be needed to manufacture evidence.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 12, 2024 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

161 Fauci remained one of the foremost advocates of public funding for gain-of-function research, in which scientists manipulate viruses in order to make them deadlier and more transmissible.

Why?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 12, 2024 06:22 PM (YqDXo)

162 Even with all the actual data saying masks don't do crap... mask use is on the rise here in Clownifornia.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 12, 2024 06:04 PM (xaFKb)

The rise of massive retail theft might be some of that. Don't want to get ID'd.
Posted by: Vanya at January 12, 2024 06:08 PM (H5IZ1)

Its illegal in California to wear masks in public, because crime.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 12, 2024 06:22 PM (eoQWY)

163
Florence Ashley, one of the members of the advisory group, is a "transfeminine" lawyer and bioethicist, according to Ashley's website.

___________

A bioethicist is a learned person who provides high-minded reasons why you have to die.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 12, 2024 06:23 PM (MoZTd)

164 126
Someone close to Fauci videotaped him trying to convince a young African-American male to get the vaccine. Said male, who I'd like to shake hands with and congratulate, was having nothing to do with it and basically said - that if you have to pay people to get the vax I want nothing to do with it.

But then Fauci says the thing that will ultimately get him swinging from a rope - to paraphrase - that we've been working on this vaccine for 20 years.

The person who is videotaping gets into the car with Fauci at the end. So it's someone on the inside who knows how demonic that little troll is and provided the rope from which Fauci will eventually hang. I saw it with my own eyes and hope its been saved to the internet 'Wayback Machine'.
-------------------------

Thought he was going to say
Someone close to Fauci videotaped him trying to convince a young African-American male to get in the back seat with him.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 12, 2024 06:25 PM (tZ+ct)

165 Modern business communications really has turned bullshitting into a fucking art form, man.
Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2024 05:58 PM (MMfmF)

Its not even good bullshitting, its to obviously full of nonsense and it is "too soon" for something as descriptive of the actual door plug popping off the aircraft.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 12, 2024 06:25 PM (eoQWY)

166
Bought a new 20-foot cord to connect our 8000 watt generator to the transfer switch. I'll be filling all three generators up and buying gas so all the containers are full of ethanol-free gas.

What worries me is our 500 gallon propane tank is down to 17%. I called AmeriGas yesterday to request a refill and their attitude was, "OK, whenever." Thanks, guys.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 12, 2024 06:30 PM (MoZTd)

167 I don't shit my pants. I have fecal escapes.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 12, 2024 06:38 PM (woPEM)

168 91 Yes, Trump made monoclonal antibody treatments available and then after Biden was installed, his administration started restricting who could have access to those treatments.
Posted by: Emmie at January 12, 2024 05:52 PM (N5qKs)

The old monoclonal antibodies don't recognize the newer variants. Don't know if any new mAbs are being developed. Probably not worth it at this point.

Posted by: Pervy Grin at January 12, 2024 06:53 PM (1y7dp)

169 You can't spell 'disingenuous little shit' without the letters a-c-e.

Posted by: Ace dreams of John McCain at January 13, 2024 12:07 AM (vRAKD)

170 Dan Bonginio described Trump perfectly... He's "Transactional"... ie everything is a deal. Even with people Trump supporters would hate - Trump sees something worth trading for.

This is fine with me, it's obviously transparent... the problem Trump has is that he needs to make sure he's paid first in these transactions.

Too often he let's the other side get what they want first, and then they stiff him. Take Obamacare for an example, he let the republican house take that on first to show the GOPe he's willing to work with them... and they fucked him.

Stop doing that, get paid first, get what you want first, then give them their side of the deal.

Posted by: realityman at January 13, 2024 07:34 AM (xsWV3)

171 He built the Virus WITH China.

So now he's throwing them under the bus.

#BeginTheTribunals

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 13, 2024 07:09 PM (pUI3J)

172 And his Genocide VAXX is much more deadly that his Virus.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 13, 2024 07:11 PM (pUI3J)

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Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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