Gen Z'ers Are So Unprepared for Job Interviews That <i>They're Bringing Their Mommies and Daddies to The Interviews to Help Them</i>

Gen Z'ers Are So Unprepared for Job Interviews That They're Bringing Their Mommies and Daddies to The Interviews to Help Them

Teachers want raises and more benefits because they've been doing such a gangbusters job preparing the young for work.

Helicopter parenting has reached a new level.
Employers are going above and beyond to not hire recent college graduates in favor of older workers, a new survey found.
The survey uncovered many reasons why older applicants are preferred -- including that Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews.
In December, Intelligent, an online magazine focused on student life, surveyed 800 managers, directors and executives involved in the hiring process.
It found that 39% of employers actively avoid hiring recent college graduates for roles they're qualified for.
Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview.
But that's not the only aspect stopping employers from hiring Gen Z applicants.
One in five employers say that recent college graduates are "unprepared" for interviews -- and are often unprofessional.
Fifty-three percent of employers surveyed said that recent college graduates struggle with eye contact, 50% said they ask for unreasonable compensation, 47% said they don't dress appropriately for interviews, and 21% said they refuse to turn their cameras on for virtual interviews.
But Diane M. Gayeski, a professor of strategic communications at Ithaca College, suggested that these behaviors aren't entirely their fault -- a lot of it is circumstantial.
"Employers need to recognize that, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, young people graduating from college had more than two years of disruption in their education as well as their social and professional development," Gayeski said in the report. "Current seniors were in their freshman year at the height of COVID. They likely took classes online and were unable to participate in clubs, internships or summer jobs."

This is nonsense. Yes, younger people will have experienced social retardation due to the covid lockdowns. But by age 18-19 -- which is what we're talking about here, as these are just-graduated morons -- your social development is mostly complete. You're not still learning how to speak with people and hold their gaze.

Additionally, 63% of those involved in hiring claimed that recent college grads can't manage their workload, 61% said they are frequently late to work, 59% claimed they often miss deadlines, and 53% noted that they are frequently late to meetings.

See the article for more. Employers report that Gen Zers have bad attitudes and will not take criticism or even direction.

A society cannot endure if it produces two weakling, stupid, worthless generations in a row.

Remember when America was a first-world country? That was nice. I miss that.

It's not all the fault of Gen Zers and their terrible teachers and AWFL parents, though.

A big part of it is the "rewiring" of their brains by being the first Always Online Generation.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:40 PM

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1 You're hired! No, not you, I meant your Dad.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 05:41 PM (fs1hN)

2

There are psycho teachers and consultants making this happen to bring it all down from within.

They are happy.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 10, 2024 05:41 PM (UCNv1)

3 "It found that 39% of employers actively avoid hiring recent college graduates for roles they're qualified for."

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All the big proponents of college for everybody love to tell us about the lifetime earnings of college graduates outpacing those with only a high school education.

Well, numbers like this will start to kill that talking point.

Congratulations commies, you ruined higher education in America.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 10, 2024 05:42 PM (i7Q7S)

4 Oi!

Sh*t like this has been going on for awhile now. One of my employees had is wife call me to bitch about his hours. We worked a straight 8 but were on 24 hour call.

And we paid accordingly.

I hung up on her. He didn't last.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:42 PM (h/xVB)

5 speak with people and hold their gaze.
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Ace loves holding the gaze.

Posted by: JCG at January 10, 2024 05:42 PM (7Cozr)

6 But, but, but, mommy said I would be perfect for the job.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 05:42 PM (cbtwc)

7 Oy Vey.

Posted by: Adriane the Cynical Critic . . . at January 10, 2024 05:42 PM (4Winp)

8
Hell, I wouldn't know what to do in an interview any more either.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:43 PM (MoZTd)

9 "63% of those involved in hiring claimed that recent college grads can't manage their workload, 61% said they are frequently late to work, 59% claimed they often miss deadlines, and 53% noted that they are frequently late to meetings."

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These are the people who are supposed to fund my social security.

(I wish I could have opted out of it with the promise to never take a penny)

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 10, 2024 05:43 PM (i7Q7S)

10 So glad my kid isn't a fuck up

Posted by: nckate at January 10, 2024 05:43 PM (EPm6B)

11
Ace loves holding the gaze.

Posted by: JCG

I think you spelled that incorrectly.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 05:44 PM (cbtwc)

12 "Additionally, 63% of those involved in hiring claimed that recent college grads can't manage their workload, 61% said they are frequently late to work, 59% claimed they often miss deadlines, and 53% noted that they are frequently late to meetings."

Heh. It is funny that a generation that so frequently harps on consequence culture and responsibility, does not in fact understand it.

This has nothing to do with online- this is letting filthy commies into the education system.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:44 PM (di6C2)

13 One of my employees had is wife call me to bitch about his hours.
____

Wow, how did that conversation go?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 05:44 PM (fs1hN)

14 Surprised they're not bringing their pets.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 10, 2024 05:45 PM (NpAcC)

15

At least 30% of these lost infants bring a parent, usually mommy, to their appointments with me...

Posted by: Dr. Nick Rivera at January 10, 2024 05:45 PM (uKFdr)

16 These are the people who are supposed to fund my social security.

(I wish I could have opted out of it with the promise to never take a penny)

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 10, 2024 05:43 PM (i7Q7S)

I remember doing retirement planning in the early 1990s, and the assumption was that there would be no SS by the time we retired.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 05:45 PM (gSZYf)

17 De-evolution. We're thru being cool.

Posted by: Man who lives as a pig at January 10, 2024 05:45 PM (vFG9F)

18 Of course they have to bring mommy or daddy...someone had to drive to the interview.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 05:45 PM (W/lyH)

19 >>Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews.

America had a good run but it's over.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 05:46 PM (ZLI7S)

20
"What assets do you bring to this position?"
"My Harvard degree."

"What do you know about gas-phase polymerization?"
"I went to Harvard."

"If a fire from a pyrophoric aluminum alkyl occurred, what would you do?"
"Tell the fire I'm a Harvard grad."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:46 PM (MoZTd)

21 Mama always said...

Posted by: huerfano at January 10, 2024 05:46 PM (Q4KYm)

22 This is nonsense.
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Forget it, Ace -- it's Ithaca College.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 10, 2024 05:46 PM (xYckV)

23 speak with people and hold their gaze.
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Ace loves holding the gaze.

Posted by: JCG at January 10, 2024 05:42 PM (7Cozr)
***

Huh.
Heard it call a lot of things, but never a gaze.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (W/lyH)

24 "Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews"

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These are the people who are going to stop the Caliphate from being installed in America being installed, right?

LOL

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (i7Q7S)

25 Even for a part time or summer job in high school, I would hve never thought about taking a parent along for a job interview. That would have been too pussified to contemplate, besides they would have refused and then called me a pussy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (pohLc)

26 8
Hell, I wouldn't know what to do in an interview any more either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:43 PM (MoZTd)

My last one (for current job): I got to the interview early, of course. Wearing my suit. With Grandpa's cufflinks for good luck, like always. Have the notepad to take notes. I decide to go through the email once more before the interview. Notice that the email says no suits. Mind boggles. Take suit jacket off and decide to roll with it (fucked at this point if it is an issue anyway.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (di6C2)

27 20
"What assets do you bring to this position?"
"My Harvard degree."

"What do you know about gas-phase polymerization?"
"I went to Harvard."

"If a fire from a pyrophoric aluminum alkyl occurred, what would you do?"
"Tell the fire I'm a Harvard grad."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:46 PM (MoZTd)

And using my superior Crossfit training, use the energy from my Vegan diet to run away...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (xaFKb)

28
Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews.

"Xyler was never toilet trained. We felt it might inhibit his creativity."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (MoZTd)

29
Employers just need to make sure they state "No Interview +1s"

That should take care of the problem.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (nFnyb)

30 Are we not going to talk about the NYC Jewish tunnels? I expect Ace to wonder whether this is a thing or not.

That and I've got three Lord of the Rings references loaded and ready.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (lhenN)

31 I remember doing retirement planning in the early 1990s, and the assumption was that there would be no SS by the time we retired.
____

10 years in the future -

Hey, why does my SS check have negative numbers on it?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (fs1hN)

32 "I remember doing retirement planning in the early 1990s, and the assumption was that there would be no SS by the time we retired."

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I have too. Would have been nicer if I could have opted out and kept more of my earnings to put away for retirement though.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (i7Q7S)

33 There was a guy took over my position once I got promoted. I was his direct boss.

Guy was late 95% of the time. An average of 45 minutes.

I wrote him up with the Ops Manager, he didn’t show up to work the next day and self selected himself to no longer work with us.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (FKhtN)

34 I’m going to make a wilda$$ guess that none of these kids bringing mommy to a job interview had a freaking summer job!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (AOLGx)

35 25 Even for a part time or summer job in high school, I would hve never thought about taking a parent along for a job interview. That would have been too pussified to contemplate, besides they would have refused and then called me a pussy.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (pohLc)

I wouldn't have thought it was a pussy move- I just never would have even considered it a possibility. I mean, why?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (di6C2)

36 Sure am glad I'm retired and don't have to kiss job-interviewer ass anymore. Fuck them.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (MvF+J)

37 28
Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews.

"Xyler was never toilet trained. We felt it might inhibit his creativity."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:47 PM (MoZTd)

/looks at last thread...

Ohhhhh... Xyler FLEW to the interview?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (xaFKb)

38 Gen Z are all loosers. And they should get off my lawn!

Time to go. Matlock's on.

Posted by: NotEnoughLampposts at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (BOECD)

39 I can't look because you all are nude.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (J8LnB)

40 Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview.

Maybe the parent had to drive since it was a stickshift.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (p61dW)

41 "Employers need to recognize that, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, young people graduating from college had more than two years of disruption in their education as well as their social and professional development," Gayeski said in the report

So they're what? 23? 24?
I was walking death row at 23. We are not the same.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (gZ3KO)

42 I saw some of this at my previous job with the younger crew. They didn't seem to retain information. You ask a question and if there wasn't a computer around it the answer always was "I'll get back to you". Even with basic stuff they should have known. They would check on their computer. They would even do this in meetings.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (cMXNt)

43 I was walking death row at 23. We are not the same.
Posted by: rickb223

Which side of the gray bars?

hehehe

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (h/xVB)

44 I wrote him up with the Ops Manager, he didn’t show up to work the next day and self selected himself to no longer work with us.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (FKhtN)

Those are always good. I have lost the passion for firing (except the really satisfying ones.) The lazy self selecting ones just make everything easier.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (di6C2)

45
Let me guess. None of these interviews Mommy and Daddy sit in on are in construction.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (MoZTd)

46 Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview.

Maybe the parent had to drive since it was a stickshift.

Or the kid never bothered to get a driver's license.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (dZVON)

47 Adam Carolla was a decade ahead of the news on this when he did his Occupy Wall Street rant.

Posted by: Rdubs at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (9ALg7)

48 I do a fair bit of hiring and mommy or daddy at an interview would be an automatic no for me. Gawd.

Posted by: She Hobbit at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (ftFVW)

49 Gavin McInnes talked about the young people he had working for him bringing their dad to a performance review.

I couldn't imagine bringing my parents to a job interview, that's wild.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (oQuWE)

50 They make the point that they had two years disruption due to covid, unlike the greatest generation who had 4 years of disruption due to WWII.

Posted by: Brian at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (+i6Dt)

51 Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (gZ3KO)

Yeah they are pussies. However, there is a lot of truth in that COVID ruined social development of everyone under the age of 30 IMO.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (FKhtN)

52
Are we not going to talk about the NYC Jewish tunnels? I expect Ace to wonder whether this is a thing or not.

He'll probably bury the story.

Posted by: New IP New Nic at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (nIvob)

53 Re: 33 — I believe that’s called “quiet quitting.”

Can’t even tell the boss you’re leaving.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (AOLGx)

54 These are the cohort that chose their college based on the quality of the food in the dining halls and how nice the gym is.

They are lazy retards for reasons other than Covid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (gSZYf)

55 >It found that 39% of employers actively avoid hiring recent college graduates for roles they're qualified for.
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"So, Tom- may I call you Tom?- Tom, tell me: can you distinguish your ass from your elbow?"

"No? That's unfortunate. We sort of expect that from our employees. Hmm... tell me this, Tom- can you walk AND chew gum at the same time?"

"No? I see... Tom, how many fingers am I holding up?"

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (geLO8)

56 I have fired numerous people. I don't enjoy it, but some folks just need firing.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (pohLc)

57 "Additionally, 63% of those involved in hiring claimed that recent college grads can't manage their workload, 61% said they are frequently late to work, 59% claimed they often miss deadlines, and 53% noted that they are frequently late to meetings."

Man, I wish I were starting out today.

All I'd have to be is minimally competent and sane, and

I'd be a Super-Star!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (nFnyb)

58 Posted by: CaliGirl at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (oQuWE)

I couldn’t IMAGINE doing this. And I’m a millennial.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (FKhtN)

59 10 So glad my kid isn't a fuck up
Posted by: nckate at January 10, 2024 05:43 PM (EPm6B)

Me, too...although I wonder if most of this is kids and parents so used to "crutches" for issues most kids had to work out - today's "mild/moderate" diagnoses of anxiety, ADHD, sensory processing, autism, etc...which used to just be "the kid is weird or nervous"...if you give them crutches, you can't imagine them going to adult things and succeeding without them (and you, b/c you got them the crutches). So, I think this is more a parent/doctor/school problem, than a kid problem...

I deal with a nervous kid...she has gotten her license and multiple summer jobs b/c I don't let her have crutches. We just accept that sometimes she'll fail and have to work around her anxiety fails to the next thing...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (exHjb)

60 > One in five employers say that recent college graduates are "unprepared" for interviews -- and are often unprofessional.

I often help screen software developer job applicants. We had so many people come to interviews and fail spectacularly, we started asking them to do a couple of very basic software algorithm problem solving questions in written form before the interview. Keep in mind, many of these people have already had at least a couple of years in the industry.

I'd say 19/20 of these applicants fail EVEN THIS PART. It's not timed. It's not proctored. They can use google, books, etc. to do this. There is absolutely no reason anyone who has done more than a couple of weeks of professional development should fail at this, but most do.

It's not as if we're offering $35K for these jobs, either. Depending on job experience, it's between $90K - $130K to start. More senior devs are closer to $200K before bonuses and stock options.

Posted by: bonhomme/i] at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (Odg76)

61 About 15 or 20 years ago has a recent graduate come in for job interview. He expected to start at $100K/year.

Posted by: vic at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (A5THL)

62 I'd never bring Mommy to an interview. She's busy, has things to do. I get her to make an affidavit certifying how many Good Boy Points I current have and my eligibility status for chicken tendies.

Posted by: Of Course It's Notarized at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (zuIfz)

63
Meanwhile, HR is telling their 60+ workers it's time for them to retire.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (MoZTd)

64 Of course they have to bring mommy or daddy...someone had to drive to the interview.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 05:45 PM (W/lyH)

________________

Isn't that the strangest thing? When I was a kid all the kids were dying to learn how to drive and to get a car. It meant independence, impending adulthood, and a much better shot at getting laid.

Nowadays kids are "meh" about the whole thing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (YqDXo)

65 My favorite question to throw at an interviewee:

Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

*Shut up. Stare at them for how ever long it takes.*

I was amazed at how many perfect employees are out there.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (h/xVB)

66 So they're what? 23? 24?
I was walking death row at 23. We are not the same.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (gZ3KO)

At 23 I was in charge of all the Communications equipment for a Helo carrier... in the Med.

At 23, I helped pick up the remains of dead Marines in Beirut Lebanon.

At 23, I was shot at for the first time.

Yeah... just a little bit different.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (xaFKb)

67 I can see GenZ doing this, though fortunately the GenZs I know are more self sufficient. What I'm trying and failing at is wrapping my brain around what parent would go with them.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (fs1hN)

68 Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview.

Ahhhh.....one in five...is 19%???

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (W/lyH)

69 If I interviewed now, I might bring a cooler of beer with me.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (p61dW)

70 My dad got me a job when I was 15.
Told them I was a lazy bum and they needed to work my ass off!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (0mAqe)

71 I have fired numerous people. I don't enjoy it, but some folks just need firing.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (pohLc)

Did you offer them a Fresca afterwards?

Posted by: Judge Smails at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (4I/2K)

72 56 I have fired numerous people. I don't enjoy it, but some folks just need firing.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 05:52 PM (pohLc)

In 7 years of management before this job I fired a grand total of 3 people. 3.

This job? I cannot even guess.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:54 PM (di6C2)

73 Meanwhile, HR is telling their 60+ workers it's time for them to retire.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (MoZTd)
__________________

First thing we do is kill all the ~~lawyers~~ HR clowns.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2024 05:54 PM (YqDXo)

74 Posted by: Rdubs at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (9ALg7)

Occupy ended up being a communist PsyOp but they had a point about the wealth inequality.

Nothing like the wealthiest in the nation, ruining said nation and making more money as the national and its peoples fall.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:54 PM (FKhtN)

75 Would have been nicer if I could have opted out and kept more of my earnings to put away for retirement though.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 10, 2024 05:48 PM (i7Q7S)

Oh hell yes! I wasn't being critical...just making an observation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 05:54 PM (gSZYf)

76 Yeah they are pussies. However, there is a lot of truth in that COVID ruined social development of everyone under the age of 30 IMO.
Posted by: thathalfrican

By the time they are legally allowed to drink, I expect them to have their shit wired tight.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 05:55 PM (gZ3KO)

77 My 19 year old son is pretty good at interacting with adults. Due to 2.5 years of covid remote learning he grew apart from his friends and is practically friendless right now. He dropped out of college after 1 year because there was too much prerequisit stuff that never got taught to them. They graduated everyone in his school even though they didn't learn shit.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 10, 2024 05:55 PM (ZQo7S)

78
Employers need to recognize that, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, young people graduating from college had more than two years of disruption in their education as well as their social and professional development

Tough titty toenails -- grow the fuck up

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2024 05:55 PM (XeTAE)

79 I was amazed at how many perfect employees are out there.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (h/xVB)
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Or people with traumatic amnesia.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 10, 2024 05:56 PM (xYckV)

80 50 They make the point that they had two years disruption due to covid, unlike the greatest generation who had 4 years of disruption due to WWII.
Posted by: Brian at January 10, 2024 05:51 PM (+i6Dt)

One forced them to stay home... the other to go out in the world and fight.

About as different of situations as you can get.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 05:56 PM (xaFKb)

81 So they're what? 23? 24?
I was walking death row at 23. We are not the same.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 05:50 PM (gZ3KO)

At 23 I was in charge of all the Communications equipment for a Helo carrier... in the Med.

At 23, I helped pick up the remains of dead Marines in Beirut Lebanon.

At 23, I was shot at for the first time.

Yeah... just a little bit different.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (xaFKb)
***

At 23 I was co-signed for XX number of nuclear weapons.
I was co-signed for the authentication cards.
I was responsible for the code books.
I was shot at...they missed.
And 27 soldiers called me boss.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 05:56 PM (W/lyH)

82 "a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview."

I suspect a fair number of them were lying. They probably heard the story somewhere and in venting their frustration with recent grads they repeated as if it happened to them.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 10, 2024 05:56 PM (3vCGB)

83 "This is nonsense. Yes, younger people will have experienced social retardation due to the covid lockdowns. But by age 18-19 ..."

It's worse than that. We're talking about recent COLLEGE graduates. They should be 21-22, minimum. And bringing parents along to a job interview, at that age? Seriously!

Posted by: Robert at January 10, 2024 05:57 PM (y04CO)

84 Had a dental appointment early morning one day this week (just a cleaning). I get there on time. There's a younger guy there (Millennial? Gen Z?). His wife, the appointment before mine, was running late, and he showed up to hold her place in line. The office was having none of it. I had to laugh. How does this couple think dental appointments work?

Posted by: I'll send my factor to discuss matters with your factor at January 10, 2024 05:57 PM (zuIfz)

85 65 My favorite question to throw at an interviewee:

Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

*Shut up. Stare at them for how ever long it takes.*

I was amazed at how many perfect employees are out there.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (h/xVB)

Huh. That is a tough one because you tend to bury the stuff unless it is truly spectacular.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:57 PM (di6C2)

86 Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 05:55 PM (gZ3KO)

I get you. Believe me I do. However, technology has forever changed the way people interact.

My generation, the older ones at least, had the marriage of internet and meat space. We learned how to do both.

This generation? No way.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:57 PM (FKhtN)

87
What I'm trying and failing at is wrapping my brain around what parent would go with them.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

That is the mystery, is it not?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2024 05:57 PM (XeTAE)

88 Absolutely, teachers should be preparing students for the world they will be facing as adults, but where are the parents in all this?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (8sMut)

89 I'm sorry. I'm stupid about these generational things except for Boomers and Silents
. What is generation z. Just graduated from college? My son hasn't graduated yet. This yearGod willing , and neither mom nor did went to interviews for summer jobs or an internship with him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (lRvfO)

90 You can no longer have players pick up cones etc after practice because that is a form of hazing,

There was a Scandel in Women’s soccer where a Coach dared to tell a returning player that she was over weight and needed to lose it.

Yelling at players is now considered Bullying

You can’t make this crap up, and they wonder why NOBODY wants to coach anymore

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (dKiJG)

91 I'm still shocked that the 20% were college grads bringing their parents.
At 15 1/2 I went to the news paper and got a job delivering paper bundles to the paper boys. Drove a beat up Ford econoline van a couple hours a day.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (cbtwc)

92 In the 80s I hired an autistic kid (back when that word meant something) whose parents sat in the car waiting for him.

It was a programming position and he easily aced the quiz I gave. I was a softie and hired him -- felt it was a chance to change someone's life and get a good worker.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (O4+Bv)

93 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I was amazed at how many perfect employees are out there.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (h/xVB)

Oh man...I remember it vividly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (gSZYf)

94
Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

"I told the Conclave to make this Bergoglio jerk Pope."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (MoZTd)

95
How does this couple think dental appointments work?
Posted by: I'll send my factor to discuss matters with your factor

No cut-sies and no take-backs?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (XeTAE)

96 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (8sMut)

Hmmm. Living their best life for the gram?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (FKhtN)

97 It was a programming position and he easily aced the quiz I gave. I was a softie and hired him -- felt it was a chance to change someone's life and get a good worker.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (O4+Bv)

How did the kid do?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (di6C2)

98 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I made a mistake at work once. I thought I had broken something but it turned out that I hadn't.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (p61dW)

99 Adult babies
we're doomed

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (geLO8)

100 Why is it called "firing." Was it originally a play on "discharge"?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (Dm8we)

101 but where are the parents in all this?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (8sMut)

Bingo.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (gSZYf)

102 > I suspect a fair number of them were lying. They probably heard the story somewhere and in venting their frustration with recent grads they repeated as if it happened to them.

I believe it, but remember we're talking about people who probably interview several hundreds of candidates every year. After a few years, you get one person who brings a parent. In reality, it's only 0.000001% of all the people you've interviewed, but you can truthfully answer that it happened. Even still, eighty percent said they hadn't hosted a parent at an interview.

Posted by: bonhomme/i] at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (Odg76)

103 My dad got me a job when I was 15.
Told them I was a lazy bum and they needed to work my ass off!

Posted by: gourmand du jour

=====

As I read that, I heard it in my dad's voice

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (8AONa)

104 I usually went in to an interview, sit down (back straight). If my chair had armrests, I would one arm on it, with my other arm on my lap and my hand massaging my crotch. Interviewers love that kind of relaxed look.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (BdMk6)

105 13 One of my employees had is wife call me to bitch about his hours.
____

Wow, how did that conversation go?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 05:44 PM (fs1hN)

I've had a wife scream at me and an employee's sister told me where she works, tech job in San Francisco, people can leave work when they're done with their work. I told the sister that she was welcome to hire my employee if her sibling didn't like it. I tell you, people are stupid.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (oQuWE)

106 93 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I was amazed at how many perfect employees are out there.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (h/xVB)

Oh man...I remember it vividly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 05:59 PM (gSZYf)

Well, I went into an interview for a new job, where they asked me really fucking stupid questions...

Next?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (xaFKb)

107 At 18 I was supporting my parents.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 10, 2024 06:00 PM (POc8X)

108 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I was amazed at how many perfect employees are out there.

Posted by: Tonypete

Which one?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (gZ3KO)

109
but where are the parents in all this?

Daddy is in Cancun with Tiffany.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (MoZTd)

110 What's the deal with 'eye contact?' Why is that a show-stopper? If you're hiring a hypnotist, sure; but what does a coder need eye contact for?

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (MvF+J)

111 My autistic daughter does interviews on her own. Sheesh.

Posted by: Catherine at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (Y2wVe)

112
That's ridiculous!

You could just bring along a note from your mom!

Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (krQz2)

113 You can no longer have players pick up cones etc after practice because that is a form of hazing,

There was a Scandel in Women’s soccer where a Coach dared to tell a returning player that she was over weight and needed to lose it.

Yelling at players is now considered Bullying

You can’t make this crap up, and they wonder why NOBODY wants to coach anymore
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (dKiJG)
***

Not the book thread but...
Santa brought me the book: "Things My Drill Sergeant Said" and it is friggin' hilarious!
I can see it already...the next book will be "Things My Coach Said".

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (W/lyH)

114 The internet has not helped young people with face to face social interaction. Aside from not having skills with FB and such, I am glad I grew up speaking with people face to face.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (lRvfO)

115 Most of my screw ups are from not firing people when my gut said I should.

Small mistakes on training documents- but I usually catch them a couple months later.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (di6C2)

116 Saw a great cartoon. Showed a manager giving a broom to a kid. The kid says “I’m a college graduate.” Manager says“Oh that’s right. Let me show you how to use this.”

Way to close to reality.

Posted by: Jukin at January 10, 2024 06:02 PM (17s+e)

117 >Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.
---

I didn't see the iceberg right away

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:02 PM (geLO8)

118 When I was (I think) 19 and living at home, my mom insisted on coming along to a job fair. "It's ok I'll just wait in the waiting room." Well what harm can come from that?

I waited in the waiting room, strategically a fair distance from my mom, reading something. The interviewer walked in and called my name. I looked at the guy. My mom hissed my name and pointed emphatically at the guy, as if I was an oblivious idiot.

The second time, she insisted on coming, and I explained to her that no one would hire a guy who brought his mom.

I have had to explain things to both parents that required the smallest competence to know. (I have a 140 IQ according to the army BTW). The cynicism that gets baked into that must be the waters I swim in.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 10, 2024 06:02 PM (lhenN)

119 That's ridiculous!

You could just bring along a note from your mom!
Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (krQz2)

Exactly!

Posted by: Juan Epstein at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (4I/2K)

120 What's the deal with 'eye contact?' Why is that a show-stopper? If you're hiring a hypnotist, sure; but what does a coder need eye contact for?
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (MvF+J)

I remember when you could recognize a extrovert programmer because he looked at your shoes when you talked to them.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (p61dW)

121 >>My generation, the older ones at least, had the marriage of internet and meat space. We learned how to do both.

My generation invented the internet and knew to use it as a tool not to let it think for us. We ran the internet, this generation is run by it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (ZLI7S)

122 Can drill sergeants still call someone a disgusting fatbody?

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (geLO8)

123 During interviews I find it entertaining to break wind and dig shit outta my nose and roll it up and fling it across the office.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (pohLc)

124 Remember when some outfits would say "Smoke 'em if you want" in the interview room and not place any ashtrays in there to see how you'd react?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (h/xVB)

125 You could always go with the classic:

'I believe the statute of limitations has not run out yet, so I won't answer that one.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (di6C2)

126 >He'll probably bury the story.

It will pop up unexpected.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (lhenN)

127 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.
---
Walking into this interview...

Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:04 PM (krQz2)

128 28 Gen Z jobseekers are even bringing mom and dad to interviews.

"Xyler was never toilet trained. We felt it might inhibit his creativity."

xyler flew delta to the interview, didn't he?

Posted by: anachronda at January 10, 2024 06:04 PM (oY6Yp)

129
I can see it already...the next book will be "Things My Coach Said".
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (W/lyH)

"Kramer! The concentration period of a college student is thirty minutes. Of a high school student, fifteen. In junior high, it's about five and in kindergarten, it's about one minute. You can't remember anything for even one minute. Where does that put you?" - Vince Lombardi

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:04 PM (MoZTd)

130 OT: That guy that keeps filing lawsuits to keep off the ballot in various states? Yeah, he just got busted for filing fraudulent paperwork with the IRS.

https://t.ly/qL0t1

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 10, 2024 06:04 PM (dZVON)

131 Santa brought me the book: "Things My Drill Sergeant Said" and it is friggin' hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (W/lyH)

"Sh*t My Dad Says," by Justin Halpern, is pretty damned funny.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 06:04 PM (gSZYf)

132 116 Saw a great cartoon. Showed a manager giving a broom to a kid. The kid says “I’m a college graduate.” Manager says“Oh that’s right. Let me show you how to use this.”

Way to close to reality.
Posted by: Jukin at January 10, 2024 06:02 PM (17s+e)

It is amazing how grown ass adults want to use a broom when told to clean. It is staggering.

'No. That's not a push broom. No.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (di6C2)

133 I really don't understand how America has stayed on top as long as it has. I know so many people with these "pretend" jobs that still make good money.

Just a giant house of cards.

Posted by: Blago at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (wMRY8)

134 We've got this AI Chatbot, "Not Sure", and he's gonna fix everything!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (qPw5n)

135 The dearth of dependable and reliable young people in the workforce is a big problem.

The average age of the people doing Broadcast Systems integration work is around 45 to 50.

I've got Fiber Termination Teams that literally look like Santa Claus and his older brother doing the grunt work that 20 somethings would be doing.

Basically, everything is going to come to a grinding halt as everyone ages out and there is vapor left behind.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (XV/Pl)

136 Well, I guess if I lose my job now, I stand at least some chance in the marketplace to find a new one fairly quickly...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (BpYfr)

137 I don't get it. My kid was shaking hands and looking people in the eye at age six or seven. Hello how are you first name last name nice to see you meet you. The first time he did this my husband and I just looked at one another slightly shocked. Kids observe. If you have them around you. Parents are failing first.

Posted by: nckate at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (EPm6B)

138 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.
---
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

Posted by: A. Carlson at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (krQz2)

139 > I remember when you could recognize a extrovert programmer because he looked at your shoes when you talked to them.

I first heard that joke in college. I still like it.

How do you tell if a programmer is an extrovert?
He looks at your shoes as he talks.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (Odg76)

140 126 >He'll probably bury the story.

It will pop up unexpected.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (lhenN)

Are gophers kosher?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (di6C2)

141 Here's another question...

How stupid are the parents that they actually GO to the interview?

Posted by: IrishEi at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (OqZFJ)

142
My generation invented the internet and knew to use it as a tool not to let it think for us. We ran the internet, this generation is run by it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM

There was a time when the internet was idiot free. Then Apple came out with the smartphone and it's been downhill from there.

Posted by: New IP New Nic at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (nIvob)

143 We ran the internet, this generation is run by it.

Good distinction, Jack.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (lRvfO)

144 Best interview I ever had was for a job to teach network engineering to adults.

Went into the interview, lasted 5 minutes then (without prep or notice) 'we'd like you to give a quick technical presentation to our staff... they are on lunch but will be your students)...

This was back when we had Windows 95 and NT 4 in offices... and I off the cuff gave an explanation why the security acted differently.

Office folks actually paid attention... and won't OHHHHHH...

Hired me on the spot.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (xaFKb)

145 Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (ZLI7S)

That’s because you knew the danger of putting all faith and personal information into the internet.

Hello MySpace, Facebook, Instagram and everything else.

People have zero issue showing their tied off balloon knot for a few bucks.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (FKhtN)

146 https://youtu.be/_RSH3jhSvHM?feature=shared

Iranian base ship probably providing Intel to Houthis in the Red Sea.

Chinese might be making an attempt to cause shippers to flag under Chinese flag for 'protection'.

Latest What's Going On With Shipping video.

Oh, and US and Brits in a three hour battle in the Red Sea.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (ufFY8)

147 NEXT

Posted by: JCG at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (7Cozr)

148 This is not a new phenomenon. I personally know of 3 such cases from before the pandemic. All 3 new hires in finance jobs.
1. Mommy called the HR dept and said that her baby was not really a morning person so the 9am starting time "wouldn't work for her." Couldn't she roll in around 10:45 or so?
2. Mommy called and said her son didn't like suits and couldn't he come to work in something more comfortable and casual?
3. Mommy called HR and said that she wanted to attend the orientation program for her child (a multi-day conference style at an off-site location.) This HR at least had a clue and said, "Sure, as long as you pay the cost of the sessions, lodging and food..."

Posted by: Delilah at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (e7cLS)

149
First thing you do is abolish all no-pay internships (or not) in favor of having little Scottie and Susie get out in the world with a job during which one cleans up after one's fellow pyrsyns.

Get on a landscaping crew; haul garbage; clean public facilities, and so forth.

Open their eyes to how marvelous having an open borders policy is as you clean up the wretched refuse of the wretched refuse.

Catering to the entrenched "betters" via internships ought to be a dead last choice for any young'un. Develop some dignity and strike out on your own..

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (XeTAE)

150 How did the kid do?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Man, I hate this part of the story.
He refused to work Monday to Thursday. Then Friday afternoon who would whatever was assigned, and accomplish twice what any other programmer could do in a week.

He would sit in front of the computer and fall asleep. I begged him to at least look busy but, autism. He became an embarrassment - the shop floor guys were all joking about him like that nosepicker in Caddyshack.
Finally I had to fire him. Lasted maybe 6 months and I doubt he ever worked again.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (O4+Bv)

151 Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times.
Good times make weak men. <<<<<we are here.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (gxokI)

152 What that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Posted by: George Costanza at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (AzRhy)

153 Oh, and US and Brits in a three hour battle in the Red Sea.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 10, 2024 06:06 PM (ufFY

Who won? Us, or John Bull?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (p61dW)

154
It's not all the fault of Gen Zers and their terrible teachers and AWFL parents, though.

A big part of it is the "rewiring" of their brains by being the first Always Online Generation.

Whine Mons, Wine Moms and Karens

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (XeTAE)

155 There goes the neighborhood

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (yuOgf)

156 an experience from when i graduated college during the carter admin years:

i went for a job advertised in the ny times that sunday at an employment agency, got there at 9:30, i thought the interview went well, but was told they had already sent too many people to the employer...

a few weeks later the same agency advertises the same job, i got there at 9:10, was again told they had already sent over too many applicants...

a few weeks later the same agency advertises the same job, i got there at 8:50, was again told they had already sent over too many applicants...

fourth time, i got there at 8:30 and... oh, i'm sorry we ran the wrong ad this week, you need to be able to type 60 words a minute...

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (B1FKF)

157 Oh, those kids today. Always doing the thing we don't like. And back in my day, we didn't have what they have, and we liked it!

There's no hope.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (dGCAG)

158 They're Bringing Their Mommies and Daddies to The Interviews
.......

Can I bring my Mommies? I have two of them.

Posted by: wth at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (v0R5T)

159 Get on a landscaping crew; haul garbage; clean public facilities, and so forth.

Open their eyes to how marvelous having an open borders policy is as you clean up the wretched refuse of the wretched refuse.

Catering to the entrenched "betters" via internships ought to be a dead last choice for any young'un. Develop some dignity and strike out on your own..
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Had weekly lawnmowing customers in the summer and snow shoveling customers in the winter. I was 12.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (gZ3KO)

160 133 I really don't understand how America has stayed on top as long as it has. I know so many people with these "pretend" jobs that still make good money.

Just a giant house of cards.
Posted by: Blago at January 10, 2024 06:05 PM (wMRY

------------------

Maybe the $34,000,000,000,000 in debt has something to do with it.

I've become a hippie over the last two years. The system is rigged.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (cMXNt)

161 Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times.
Good times make weak men. <<<<<we are here.'

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (gxokI)
---
The Age of FA/FO.

Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (krQz2)

162 One of my employees had is wife call me to bitch about his hours.

Was she a One?

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (ufFY8)

163 > What's the deal with 'eye contact?' Why is that a show-stopper? If you're hiring a hypnotist, sure; but what does a coder need eye contact for?

In public facing jobs I suppose it could be important. Sales especially.

It sounds like an old person's idea of a trustworthiness test. Does he have a firm handshake? Does he look you in the eye when he talks? If not, you can't trust him with your code base.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (Odg76)

164 Finally I had to fire him. Lasted maybe 6 months and I doubt he ever worked again.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (O4+Bv)

Damn. That sucks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (di6C2)

165 Remember when America was a first-world country? That was nice. I miss that.

Someone in my Twitter feed said that exact thing today. Ace needs to step down from his job at Harvard.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (2ovLw)

166 OT: That guy that keeps filing lawsuits to keep off the ballot in various states? Yeah, he just got busted for filing fraudulent paperwork with the IRS.
https://t.ly/qL0t1
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 10, 2024 06:04 PM (dZVON)
~~~~~

I was hoping it was Marc Elias. But this is still good.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (OqZFJ)

167 Interesting afternoon. Christie finally dropping out and the OH House is slapping DeWine around. Not sure yet about the Mike Johnson happenings.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (2NHgQ)

168 My generation invented the internet and knew to use it as a tool not to let it think for us. We ran the internet, this generation is run by it.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (ZLI7S)

Yeah, I laugh when someone says 'well if you don't like it go create your own internet!'...

Well.. Uh... IT guy for 45 years, I helped create THIS ONE.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (xaFKb)

169 Some New Yorker was on twatter in December saying "There's voices in the basement speaking Yiddish. My building doesn't have a basement." He got a predictable amount of ridicule for this.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (lhenN)

170
He would sit in front of the computer and fall asleep. I begged him to at least look busy but, autism. He became an embarrassment - the shop floor guys were all joking about him like that nosepicker in Caddyshack.
Finally I had to fire him. Lasted maybe 6 months and I doubt he ever worked again.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (

Awww, this makes me sad. You tried. Poor kid.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (oQuWE)

171 It sounds like an old person's idea of a trustworthiness test. Does he have a firm handshake? Does he look you in the eye when he talks? If not, you can't trust him with your code base.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (Odg76)

You can tell a lot about a person in how they do those two things though. It's back brain, gut level assessment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (di6C2)

172 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (cMXNt)

Covid and the Trump era, plus the stealing of an election, pretty much turned me into a huge right wing hippie.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (FKhtN)

173 I've become a hippie over the last two years. The system is rigged.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (cMXNt)

*fistbump*

I haven't cut my hair since I retired and work has become a four letter word in this house.

I feel like Maynard Krebs.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (p61dW)

174 Look, I can't work this job and/i] live my best life.

Posted by: Gen Z at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (XeU6L)

175 I've become a hippie over the last two years. The system is rigged.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (cMXNt)

I never EVER thought I'd be anti War.

Wow, has that changed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (xaFKb)

176 >>Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

Guy started asking me question about a tortoise and then my mother so I shot him.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (ZLI7S)

177 @133

>>I really don't understand how America has stayed on top as long as it has. I know so many people with these "pretend" jobs that still make good money.

Because, compared to us, the rest of the world is even lamer and gayer than we are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (XV/Pl)

178 You have laugh. http://tinyurl.com/47rmwkru

Sutphin is my subway stop coming home. They had the barrel style turnstiles you couldn’t jump over. The E ends at the next stop, a 5 minute walk where you can jump the turnstile which I always did.

Posted by: Jamaica at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (Eeb9P)

179 Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (2NHgQ)

Is Mike Johnson stepping down or growing a pair?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (FKhtN)

180 This is BS.

Too much hand holding, it isn't you're fault, here's a participation ribbon.

And then we're surprised these people can't show up on time and can't take criticism?

It's partly schools but a lot of parents shoving off their responsibilities onto schools.

I'd be embarrassed to bring my parents to an interview at 15 years old bagging groceries or tossing newspapers.

Grow TF up and welcome to adulting.

As my dad said: if you're kid turns 18 and isn't beating a path towards the door, you failed as a parent.

Implicit in that, is your kid is ready for the world.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (JkCto)

181 Can drill sergeants still call someone a disgusting fatbody?
Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM (geLO

Drill Sergeants care about your appearance:

Get your fat ass over here private. You are not over weight, you are over fat. By the time I'm done with you your nipples will have six-packs!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (W/lyH)

182 *fistbump*

I haven't cut my hair since I retired and work has become a four letter word in this house.

I feel like Maynard Krebs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (p61dW)

That was... Gilligan?

Geez, I am not that old, but Dad was a Dobie Gillis fan and would watch it when repeats came on cable.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (di6C2)

183 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

——————

I once thought I made a mistake, but I was wrong.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (u73oe)

184 It was the best of times; it was the worst of times.

A time of FA and a time of FO.

Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (krQz2)

185
NEXT
Posted by: JCG

This works best if you have a miniature mock volcano into which you place their resume, close the lid, and then have it turned to ashes in seconds with a torch lighter (a roaring noise would heighten the effect), with a very brief, but very intense, jet of flame issuing from the mock volcano's vent.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (XeTAE)

186 I haven't cut my hair since I retired and work has become a four letter word in this house.

I feel like Maynard Krebs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Gilligan!
Posted by: The Skipper

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (gZ3KO)

187 151 Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times.
Good times make weak men.

No. We are at the weak men make bad times stage.

Posted by: Jukin at January 10, 2024 06:13 PM (17s+e)

188 You can’t make this crap up, and they wonder why NOBODY wants to coach anymore
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 10, 2024 05:58 PM (dKiJG)

Wait until you are whined at by a counselor for failing too many students.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 06:13 PM (8sMut)

189 thathalfrican. I'm behind on the news of the day. I believe he's getting slapped around by the conservatives in Congress. Need to do some catching up.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 10, 2024 06:13 PM (2NHgQ)

190 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.
---
I...I looked too hard at the details that I care about as part of my flaw of paying too much attention to detail.

And it...uh...was bad. Really bad.

Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:13 PM (krQz2)

191 Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:11 PM (xaFKb)

I was never pro war but, I wasn’t necessarily against it. Then we learned we’ve been lied into so many wars.

Here we are.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (FKhtN)

192 What boggles me is how many of my oldest hippie friends are now total toadys for The Man.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (p61dW)

193 So the fat fuck has bowed out. But he promises to continue fucking America over for a bucket of fried chicken.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (2ovLw)

194 The part I like about these useless slugs is the job security they give me, a white man, aged 65.

I celebrate this diversity every payday.

Posted by: setnaffa at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (jeNdr)

195 Well, the ones still alive anyway.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (p61dW)

196 Can I bring my Mommies? I have two of them.
Posted by: wth at January 10, 2024 06:08 PM (v0R5T)

Heather, is that you?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (dGCAG)

197 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (p61dW)

As long as it hurts the right.

That’s ALL that matters to these people.

Plus they are also totally brainwashed simps for authority.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (FKhtN)

198 What's the deal with 'eye contact?' Why is that a show-stopper? If you're hiring a hypnotist, sure; but what does a coder need eye contact for?
Posted by: Can't Make gp

Tell them you're Amer Indian and you're taught not to look people in the face because it is a sign of disrespect.
If you're not hired... sue!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (cbtwc)

199 re 179: and people selling swipes for a discount. been a while but probably still going on. that and the guys on the e train break dancing in the cars

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (B1FKF)

200 This one time in accounting school? My debits DID NOT equal my credits. HooBoy!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (4I/2K)

201 I was never pro war but, I wasn’t necessarily against it. Then we learned we’ve been lied into so many wars.

Here we are.
Posted by: thathalfrican

Bingo

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (gZ3KO)

202 What's the deal with 'eye contact?' Why is that a show-stopper? If you're hiring a hypnotist, sure; but what does a coder need eye contact for?

In public facing jobs I suppose it could be important. Sales especially.

It sounds like an old person's idea of a trustworthiness test. Does he have a firm handshake? Does he look you in the eye when he talks? If not, you can't trust him with your code base.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:09 PM (Odg76)
-----
Being able to perform the basic rudiments of social interaction is a baseline-level assessment of whether or not a person is going to be able to perform as a part of a team. Doesn't matter if that person is a remote worker in his basement writing code.

If you're completely incapable of merely interacting with other human beings in accordance with our thousands of years of social norms, you're probably not able to perform tasks interconnected with others in a satisfactory manner.

The kid that won't look at you and has a limp handshake probably/definitely won't be able to take constructive feedback, communicate needs/requirements with others, or otherwise be a solid teammate at all.

Posted by: ballistic at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (oqH4h)

203 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 10, 2024 06:14 PM (2ovLw)

This is very funny.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (FKhtN)

204 Some people are saying Obama's on the short list to be Gay's Gay replacement at Harvard.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (Odg76)

205 re 193: just for a bucket?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (B1FKF)

206
The part I like about these useless slugs is the job security they give me, a white man, aged 65.

"Setnaffa? This is Heather in HR. We'd like to have a word with you about your future with the company..."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (MoZTd)

207 I feel like Maynard Krebs.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:10 PM (p61dW)

-------------------

This past year I started investigating the beatnik generation.

I'm also regularly getting high on Delta 8 THC. Not exactly smoking pot but close enough for me.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (cMXNt)

208 That was... Gilligan?

Geez, I am not that old, but Dad was a Dobie Gillis fan and would watch it when repeats came on cable.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:12 PM (di6C2)

Get out of Denver!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (dGCAG)

209 Tell them you're Amer Indian and you're taught not to look people in the face because it is a sign of disrespect.
If you're not hired... sue!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

My luck the HR person would be Amer Ind and tell me I'm full of shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (gZ3KO)

210 Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (Odg76)

He already helped destroy America and her standing. Might as well continue with another institution.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (FKhtN)

211 I got hired as a manager once. Had to fire some idiot the first day. I think that's why I was hired. To fire him.

Posted by: wth at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (v0R5T)

212 Mentioned above: The OH House overrode DeWiner's veto of the Ban on Mutilation of Children Bill.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (h/xVB)

213 My generation invented the internet and knew to use it as a tool not to let it think for us. We ran the internet, this generation is run by it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:03 PM
***

The best generation!
We lived in two centuries and two millennia.
We had the best music, the best cars, drive in movies and malt shops.
We actually learned stuff and put a man on the moon.
We kicked ass.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (W/lyH)

214 Tell them you're Amer Indian and you're taught not to look people in the face because it is a sign of disrespect.
If you're not hired... sue!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:15 PM (

Some people from Mexico won't look you in the eyes when you talk to them. My husband and I had an open house and one guy wouldn't look me in the face. I didn't like it. My husband said their culture is messed up and classist and that it didn't mean anything. We didn't rent to that guy, he gave me a bad feeling.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (oQuWE)

215 it's a common belief that a person who avoids eye contact might be lying. one of various ideas about what people who lie will do.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (B1FKF)

216 This past year I started investigating the beatnik generation.

I'm also regularly getting high on Delta 8 THC. Not exactly smoking pot but close enough for me.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (cMXNt)

Yeah, we pretty much lost the war on Drugs... so why are all those laws still on the books? (civil asset forfeiture)...

oh... and it appears we lost the War on Terrah too... soooo... why the ongoing WOT Authorization for use of force...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (xaFKb)

217
Some people are saying Obama's on the short list to be Gay's Gay replacement at Harvard.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (Odg76)

Naaah, sounds like work. He's lazy and not very bright. His staff has to plagiarize for him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (MoZTd)

218 My luck the HR person would be Amer Ind and tell me I'm full of shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (gZ3KO)
---
Tell them Elizabeth Warren is your cousin and your Papaw had high cheekbones too.

Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (krQz2)

219 >>>Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I suggested they take the top off the limo for their ride to the luncheon, it was such a nice day

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (geLO8)

220 > The kid that won't look at you and has a limp handshake probably/definitely won't be able to take constructive feedback, communicate needs/requirements with others, or otherwise be a solid teammate at all.

K. I've had many people on many different development teams that were so awkward that simple social interaction was painful for them. But they were damn good at their job and did well communicating via email or chat.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:19 PM (Odg76)

221 Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (xaFKb)

We lost both those wars because we wanted to lose them.

And by we I mean the power structure. Making weed legal hasn’t made MN better. Now it just stinks more.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:19 PM (FKhtN)

222 >>Being able to perform the basic rudiments of social interaction is a baseline-level assessment of whether or not a person is going to be able to perform as a part of a team. Doesn't matter if that person is a remote worker in his basement writing code.

I was fortunate enough to work with a number of engineers who were designed and built the early core of the backbone network that became the internet. Brilliant engineers who worked like machines day in and day out as the internet was exploding in growth on a daily basis. Code was being written on a weekly basis to keep up with the pace and by the end of the next week it was practically obsolete.

There wasn't a single social skill in the whole lot of them but damn were they good at what they did.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (ZLI7S)

223 It sounds like an old person's idea of a trustworthiness test. Does he have a firm handshake? Does he look you in the eye when he talks? If not, you can't trust him with your code base.
Posted by: bonhomme

If the tell me their pronouns the interview is over.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (h/xVB)

224 Eye contact. Shaking hands. Conversation. Wearing pants. It's minimum requirements. Yet out of reach.

Posted by: nckate at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (EPm6B)

225
I suggested they take the top off the limo for their ride to the luncheon, it was such a nice day
Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (geLO

Yet another case where Kennedy bravado gets them killed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (MoZTd)

226 it's a common belief that a person who avoids eye contact might be lying. one of various ideas about what people who lie will do.
Posted by: gnats local 678

Looking down and to the left. They even teach that at the police Academy. Another thing cops don't like, is holding eye contact.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (gZ3KO)

227 I suggested they take the top off the limo for their ride to the luncheon, it was such a nice day
Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:18 PM (geLO

You stole that from our thread about... wth, how did we get on the kennedy assassination the other day?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (di6C2)

228 The big donut is toast:

@RichSementa 1h
Chris Christie is set to drop out of the 2024 presidential race

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (IG4Id)

229 Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (h/xVB)

What if they are tearer/slasher/ripper

Vaults to the top of the list right?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (FKhtN)

230 We lost both those wars because we wanted to lose them.

And by we I mean the power structure. Making weed legal hasn’t made MN better. Now it just stinks more.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 10, 2024 06:19 PM (FKhtN)

But the limitations they put on Freedom... the blatant civil right abuses they put in place to prosecute those 'Wars'...

Are still in place.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (xaFKb)

231 No wait! That is from that story about the hot mic reporters!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (di6C2)

232 >>>>Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I suggested we charge right across that field- it would just take a couple minutes- straight up the hill to where those cannons were

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (geLO8)

233 There wasn't a single social skill in the whole lot of them but damn were they good at what they did.
Posted by: JackStraw

And smelt of wicked BO too, but that didn't matter then.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (h/xVB)

234 I had an open house and one guy wouldn't look me in the face. I didn't like it. My husband said their culture is messed up and classist and that it didn't mean anything. We didn't rent to that guy, he gave me a bad feeling.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Good, I worked with a lot of mexicans (legal and illegal) as a kid, none of them had trouble speaking to anyone.
That guy was a problem looking for a place to happen.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (cbtwc)

235 No. We are at the weak men make bad times stage.
-
Yeah, but we're still at the beginning of that stage.

Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (Dnobf)

236
how did we get on the kennedy assassination the other day?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (di6C2)

It was the CIA. Assisted by the Cubans, the Bureau of Land Management, the Grange and the Rosicrucians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (MoZTd)

237 202 Yet so many incompetents, criminals, and screwups pass the 'eye contact and handshake test' every day. And the can't-miss snazzy-dresser test.

Put the introverts on an ice floe and push them out to sea; can't trust them.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (MvF+J)

238 Some people are saying Obama's on the short list to be Gay's Gay replacement at Harvard.
Posted by: bonhomme
--------

The right pair of glasses, and he'd be a dead ringer.

Posted by: Gen Z at January 10, 2024 06:22 PM (XeU6L)

239 Additionally, 63% of those involved in hiring claimed that recent college grads can't manage their workload, 61% said they are frequently late to work, 59% claimed they often miss deadlines, and 53% noted that they are frequently late to meetings.

===

yep

Posted by: runner at January 10, 2024 06:22 PM (V13WU)

240 @RichSementa 1h
Chris Christie is set to drop out of the 2024 presidential race
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (IG4Id)

He was never actually in it. Not sure how it helps, but I would guess the timing is meant to give Raytheon Nikki a boost.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2024 06:22 PM (dGCAG)

241 Worst "job interview" was before I became an Elder in the church which is sort of a "promotion" You have to write some very long paper and then be interviewed on it over a weekend with about six different committees. You also eat meals with them. I kept worrying that I would be considered boorish at meals (Spinach on my teeth or something) and they wouldn't vote for me. People coming after me in the process got it all done in one day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 06:22 PM (Ki//m)

242 Looking down and to the left. They even teach that at the police Academy. Another thing cops don't like, is holding eye contact.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (gZ3KO)

---------------

Also they don't like it if the eye contact is somewhere in between.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 10, 2024 06:22 PM (cMXNt)

243 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I convinced the CEO that he could pilot his submersible with Game Boy controllers.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:23 PM (gZ3KO)

244 It was the CIA. Assisted by the Cubans, the Bureau of Land Management, the Grange and the Rosicrucians.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (MoZTd)

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Raphel Cruz at January 10, 2024 06:23 PM (p61dW)

245 >>>>>Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I told them it was just a little rain, no problem, and we'll have your blimp on the ground in a jiffy, don't you worry

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:23 PM (geLO8)

246 Looking down and to the left. They even teach that at the police Academy. Another thing cops don't like, is holding eye contact.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (gZ3KO)

Eye contact is good. Too long is creepy.

Like this guy:
http://tinyurl.com/ye3hup3z

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:23 PM (di6C2)

247
So what's worse, the can't-look-you-in-the-eye introvert or the self-confident psychopath?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:23 PM (MoZTd)

248 236
how did we get on the kennedy assassination the other day?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:20 PM (di6C2)

It was the CIA. Assisted by the Cubans, the Bureau of Land Management, the Grange and the Rosicrucians.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (MoZTd)

Banks. Kennedy had just signed an executive order bringing creation of Money back into Government hands.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:24 PM (xaFKb)

249 {238}... and he'd be a dead ringer.

Posted by: Gen Z at January 10, 2024 06:22 PM (XeU6L)

Too soon!

Posted by: That guy whose brother fell out of the bell tower at January 10, 2024 06:24 PM (qPw5n)

250 Who won? Us, or John Bull?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 06:07 PM (p61dW)

Successfully intercepted the drones and missiles.
No damage or casualties.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 10, 2024 06:24 PM (ufFY8)

251 It was the CIA. Assisted by the Cubans, the Bureau of Land Management, the Grange and the Rosicrucians.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:21 PM (MoZTd)

I don't know why it should surprise me, but it does when people don't know it was the CIA.

It was the CIA. They didn't get any help from anyone else. They don't need it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2024 06:24 PM (dGCAG)

252 always excuses, covid shmovid

Posted by: runner at January 10, 2024 06:24 PM (V13WU)

253 I suggested we charge right across that field- it would just take a couple minutes- straight up the hill to where those cannons were
Posted by: Don Black

"C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre." ("It is magnificent, but it is not war.")

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (O4+Bv)

254
There wasn't a single social skill in the whole lot of them but damn were they good at what they did.
Posted by: JackStraw

Worked with those guys too. You sent food (coffee and caffeinated soda) through a slot in the door and code came out 24/7.
Many of them needed a shower and clean clothes before going to customer meetings.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (cbtwc)

255 > There wasn't a single social skill in the whole lot of them but damn were they good at what they did.

Like I said, it's an old person's idea of a trustworthiness test. This is why "nice" fraudsters are able to fleece old people's pensions. "He seemed so trustworthy!"

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (Odg76)

256 "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre." ("It is magnificent, but it is not war.")
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (O4+Bv)

Austerlitz? I do not recognize the quote, but that is pretty much what Napoleon did.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (di6C2)

257 OK ladies, thank you all for coming. Now, to get this job you must first pass the Elbow Test. Line up here facing that wall. Extend your arms in front of you, elbows out, fists towards the ceiling.
Very good.
Now walk towards that wall. If your elbows touch before your chest, well, thank you for coming. Better luck next time.
Now the others, I will call you individually for one-on-one followup in my office. Congratulations.

Posted by: wth at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (v0R5T)

258 >>Worked with those guys too. You sent food (coffee and caffeinated soda) through a slot in the door and code came out 24/7.

Where's the damn pizza!

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 06:26 PM (ZLI7S)

259 Maybe the parent had to drive since it was a stickshift.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 05:49 PM (p61dW)

LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 06:26 PM (Ki//m)

260
Why work when you can grift?
Why try when doing better isn't rewarded?
Why risk when government and individuals can steal it at a whim?

Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 06:26 PM (j4U/Z)

261 >>>>Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I told them that the play, Our American Cousin was a laugh riot and they'd have a wonderful time

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (geLO8)

262 Like I said, it's an old person's idea of a trustworthiness test. This is why "nice" fraudsters are able to fleece old people's pensions. "He seemed so trustworthy!"

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (Odg76)

It's not all about that. You get a sense of people. It's one of the things that helps you tease out who they are.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (di6C2)

263 Worked with those guys too. You sent food (coffee and caffeinated soda) through a slot in the door

We called that solitary confinement.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (gZ3KO)

264 Austerlitz? I do not recognize the quote, but that is pretty much what Napoleon did.
Posted by: Aetius451AD a

Charge of the light brigade.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (O4+Bv)

265 >>>Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.
-------

Sure we can take a trip down to the Titanic!

Posted by: Stockton Rush at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (XeU6L)

266 Worked with those guys too. You sent food (coffee and caffeinated soda) through a slot in the door and code came out 24/7.
Many of them needed a shower and clean clothes before going to customer meetings.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:25 PM (cbtwc)

Did some consulting for a company that had a Developer Support Manager.... everyone called Mom.

Her whole job was to make sure they ate, and bathed, and had clean clothes.

Worked pretty well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (xaFKb)

267 People coming after me in the process got it all done in one day.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Have you always been slow?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (cbtwc)

268 Charge of the light brigade.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (O4+Bv)

Ah. Touché.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (di6C2)

269 The real question here is how are Gen-Z as Commentators?

Do they disappoint Ace as much as the other Commentators?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (a3Q+t)

270 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I convinced Abe to catch that new play in town.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (gZ3KO)

271 I worked odd jobs from 12 or 13 (throwing hay, slopping pigs, painting sheds, mowing lawns, etc) 'till graduation; worked in Yellowstone when I was 18 - Canyon Lodge kitchen, 4pm to close, usually, but close meant I got out of there around 0300, having to clean up. Moved to Alaska at 19. Joined the Army at 21. Was a dad before my 23rd birthday.

What I see now makes me sad.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (T/Lqj)

272 >>>Ace loves holding the gaze.

who squealed?

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (KRtlO)

273 264 Austerlitz? I do not recognize the quote, but that is pretty much what Napoleon did.
Posted by: Aetius451AD a

Charge of the light brigade.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:27 PM (O4+Bv)

I was thinking Picket's Charge.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (xaFKb)

274 Bring mom and dad to the interview? Well, if mom's cute we hit the couch, right after we duct tape dad to a metal chair and throw him down the fire stairs. If moms any good, you're hired.

Posted by: The Interviewer at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (gPomr)

275 >>>>>noted that they are frequently late to meetings.
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Not showing up for their precious power point on the latest thought of the day. That's got to hurt.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (U9XSa)

276 Most are escaping Marxism for even more Marxism.
That tells me they don't love their own children.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (J8LnB)

277 Some people are saying Obama's on the short list to be Gay's Gay replacement at Harvard.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (Odg76)

He'll take it as soon as his fourth term as president is over.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (BdMk6)

278
Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

Two strikes, we got the battleships, let's go home.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:29 PM (MoZTd)

279 >I was thinking Picket's Charge.

Posted by: Romeo13

that's the reference I was making

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:29 PM (geLO8)

280 Hydrogen is the ideal gas for our airships!

Posted by: Ferdinand von Zeppelin at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (XeU6L)

281 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I left a 2-meter thermal exhaust port unprotected.

Posted by: Death Star Designer at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (4I/2K)

282
Not showing up for meetings >>> Late for meetings.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (MoZTd)

283 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

Two strikes, we got the battleships, let's go home.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Yeah, that was a doozy.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (gZ3KO)

284 Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:16 PM (Odg76)

Yeah, He's a scholar alright./s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (Ki//m)

285 I had to select multiple interns several times a year. College undergrads and graduate students. I only seriously considered the graduate students, and most of them -- at age 24 or older -- had NEVER had a paying job -- not an after school job at a fast food joint, not life guarding in the summer, not even babysitting FFS, which every Baby Boomer or probably anyone born before 1980 would have had. That is where people learn how to be a good employee -- show up on time, follow instructions, do whatever your boss tells you to do, do a good job. College grads these days all expect to start their first job as an upper level manager making $100K

Posted by: Delilah at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (e7cLS)

286
Where's the damn pizza!
Posted by: JackStraw

Every weekend.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (cbtwc)

287 that's the reference I was making
Posted by: Don Black

Oh, sorry.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:31 PM (O4+Bv)

288 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

"This is an easy grounder! I got it."
-- Bill Buckner

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:31 PM (h/xVB)

289 281 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I left a 2-meter thermal exhaust port unprotected.
Posted by: Death Star Designer at January 10, 2024 06:30 PM (4I/2K)

Stormtrooper shooting instructor....

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 06:31 PM (xaFKb)

290 .

NOOD

Quick Hits

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 10, 2024 06:31 PM (qPw5n)

291 278
Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

Two strikes, we got the battleships, let's go home.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 06:29 PM (MoZTd)

I outnumbered Caesar 2 to 1. I was better supplied. Had better cavalry. Let's just get this thing over with...

Posted by: Pompey Magnus at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (di6C2)

292 I would never have asked my Dad to go to a job interview with me.

The disappointment in his glare would have killed me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (T/Lqj)

293 just having fun
hockey's not on for another half hour

Posted by: Don Black at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (geLO8)

294 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup.

I told them "Men, there are only a handful of injuns over there. We'll take 'em in a single charge and be back at the fort before nightfall.".

Posted by: General George Custer at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (ZLI7S)

295 277 Some people are saying Obama's on the short list to be Gay's Gay replacement at Harvard.
Posted by: bonhomme

I thought they wanted another black lesbian.
Oh....

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (O4+Bv)

296 I hate people management. I went to engineering school to work with machinery, not with people. After college, every damn job I ever had I was made the boss within a month. I fucking hate management. Anyone who tells you they are good at managing people will invariably turn out to be the absolute worst at managing people you can imagine. This from 40 years of experience with multiple industries.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (pohLc)

297 It's not all about that. You get a sense of people. It's one of the things that helps you tease out who they are.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Over time, one develops a nose for the nature of people.

Posted by: Ferdinand von Zeppelin at January 10, 2024 06:33 PM (XeU6L)

298 > It's not all about that. You get a sense of people. It's one of the things that helps you tease out who they are.

It gives you a sense of their social upbringing, sure. But an untrustworthy person who was brought up around people who shook hands and looked you in the eye will have no trouble jumping the hurdle. It still doesn't make them trustworthy.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:33 PM (Odg76)

299 They make the point that they had two years disruption due to covid, unlike the greatest generation who had 4 years of disruption due to WWII.
Posted by: Brian

Great point. They came home after the horrors of that war, sucked it up, got jobs, homes, raised families, etc.

Posted by: Cheri at January 10, 2024 06:34 PM (oiNtH)

300
Have you always been slow?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 06:28 PM (cbtwc)

Sometimes I'm slower than at other times as can be seen on this board.

but for the candidates coming in after me the either the requirements were changed or my geographic area was one of the ones that required a weekend interview. retreat. I think a combination of both

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 10, 2024 06:34 PM (Ki//m)

301 Tell me about your biggest professional screwup

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I told them that it was going to be warm in Dallas and they should ride with the convertible top down.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 10, 2024 06:36 PM (BdMk6)

302 68 Out of the 800 people surveyed, a startling one in five (19%) said a recent college graduate brought a parent with them to their job interview.

Ahhhh.....one in five...is 19%???

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 05:53 PM (W/lyH)
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I was going to make the same comment. Someone needs some remedial Arithmetic work.

I remember reading of interviewees eaten a burger during the interview. Also large drinks, combing their hair and so on.

Posted by: Ciampino - casual attitudes at January 10, 2024 06:36 PM (qfLjt)

303 It gives you a sense of their social upbringing, sure. But an untrustworthy person who was brought up around people who shook hands and looked you in the eye will have no trouble jumping the hurdle. It still doesn't make them trustworthy.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2024 06:33 PM (Odg76)

No but you can get a sense of them better. It's hard to describe. It is not a pass/fail thing. It is how they interact that is the tell. An awkward kid can still be a good kid, but he will feel... honest. A bullshit artist might pass the eye contact and handshake but they feel... oily.

Posted by: Pompey Magnus at January 10, 2024 06:36 PM (di6C2)

304 Mentioned above: The OH House overrode DeWiner's veto of the Ban on Mutilation of Children Bill.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 06:17 PM (h/xVB)

Excellent!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 10, 2024 06:40 PM (tkR6S)

305 I can see it already...the next book will be "Things My Coach Said".
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 06:01 PM (W/lyH)
_______________

My football coach, his foghorn voice: "WELL SHITHOUSE MOUSE! I'VE SEEN HARDER HITTING WHEN MY DAUGHTERS HAVE A PILLOW FIGHT! NOW GET OUT THERE AND HIT SOMEBODY!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2024 06:42 PM (YqDXo)

306 I outnumbered Caesar 2 to 1. I was better supplied. Had better cavalry. Let's just get this thing over with...
Posted by: Pompey Magnus at January 10, 2024 06:32 PM (di6C2)
__________________

I thought it would be a good idea to march through the Teutoberg Forest, which the Germans knew intimately, and which was poorly suited to Roman infantry tactics, but perfectly suited for ambush. On the bright side, I never made a mistake like that again.

Posted by: Publius Quinctilius Varus at January 10, 2024 06:48 PM (YqDXo)

307 20
"What assets do you bring to this position?"
"My Harvard degree."

"What do you know about gas-phase polymerization?"
"I went to Harvard."

"If a fire from a pyrophoric aluminum alkyl occurred, what would you do?"
"Tell the fire I'm a Harvard grad."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 05:46 PM (MoZTd)
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School is burning, school is burning ...
Pour on petrol, pour on petrol ...

Schoolboy version of London's Burning.

Posted by: Ciampino - That's funny at January 10, 2024 06:51 PM (qfLjt)

308 A GAYed degree from Haavad.

Posted by: Ciampino - That's really funny at January 10, 2024 06:52 PM (qfLjt)

309 My football coach, his foghorn voice: "WELL SHITHOUSE MOUSE! I'VE SEEN HARDER HITTING WHEN MY DAUGHTERS HAVE A PILLOW FIGHT! NOW GET OUT THERE AND HIT SOMEBODY!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

My dead grandmother runs faster than that.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 10, 2024 07:15 PM (MUvIp)

310 Oh, so when athletes bring an agent with them when they meet with sports teams ... ?

Posted by: SouthCentralPA at January 10, 2024 08:08 PM (J3OJd)

311 Apologies if someone has already pointed this out, but the resemblance to the "Everybody Loves Raymond" episode where Marie interferes with Robert's application to join the FBI is too, too telling.

Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2024 09:06 PM (iaU0Y)

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