Republicans Threaten to Throw Biden Off the Ballot in Missouri... and Florida

The left is rigging the election on the pretext claim that Trump tried (and failed) to rig one first. Or rather, the claim that he attempted to un-rig the 2020 election that they had worked so hard to "fortify."

Republicans are calling for President Joe Biden to be removed from the 2024 primary ballot as former President Donald Trump is facing challenges to remove him from ballots in multiple states.
As challenges are brought to disqualify Trump from 2024 GOP primary ballots in more than 30 states for allegedly instigating an insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, Republicans are suggesting that Biden should be removed from the ballot in response, but because of the increased volume of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. through the southern border.
The challenges against Trump have been made under the insurrection clauses of the 14th Amendment, a Civil War-era amendment that hasn't previously been used to disqualify a presidential candidate, Axios reported. The insurrection clauses do not specify whether a criminal conviction is necessary as a prerequisite. There have been candidates -- albeit on the fringes -- who have appeared on presidential ballots despite criminal convictions. Lyndon LaRouche ran his 1992 campaign from behind prison bars after a fraud conviction, and more famously, Eugene V. Debs ran his 1920 campaign from prison after being convicted of sedition. He garnered nearly a million votes.
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Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft (R), who is running for governor, posted on X on Friday following the Supreme Court taking up the Colorado appeal, saying the same standard should be applied to Biden as Trump.
"What has happened in Colorado & Maine is disgraceful & undermines our republic," Ashcroft wrote. "While I expect the Supreme Court to overturn this, if not, Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!"
Missouri state Sen. Bill Eigel (R), who is also running for governor, announced on Friday that he plans to introduce legislation that would disqualify Biden from the Missouri ballot.
"By the Democrats' own standard, Joe Biden should be immediately disqualified and removed from the ballot for the 'aid and comfort' he has given our enemies," Eigel said in a press release, citing the treason clause in Article III of the U.S. Constitution.
"Our country is being invaded, because Joe Biden has swung our southern border wide open. President Biden has allowed more than 8 million people to stroll across our border illegally, causing more harm to this country than any other president in American history," the state senator continued.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who is running in the GOP presidential primary race against Trump, said on Friday that he's looking at blocking Biden from the ballot.
"This is just going to be a tit for tat and it's just not gonna end well," DeSantis said. "You could make a case -- and I'm actually looking at this in Florida now -- could we make a credible case" to block Biden from the ballot "because of the invasion of 8 million. And again, I don't think that's the right way to do it."
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Last month, following Colorado removing Trump from the ballot, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) also suggested that Biden be removed from the ballot.
"Seeing what happened in Colorado tonight ... makes me think -- except we believe in democracy in Texas -- maybe we should take Joe Biden off the ballot in Texas for allowing 8 million people to cross the border since he's been president, disrupting our state far more than anything anyone else has done in recent history," Patrick said.

Even the sad weakling "severely conservative" betrayer Mitt Romney is telling Democrats that their endless celebration of the Victory of January 6th is "a dead political horse."

Utah Senator Mitt Romney warned President Joe Biden against campaigning on Donald Trump's actions relating to the Jan 6 attack on Congress in an interview this week, arguing that voters are weary of conversations about it.
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"Jan 6 will be four years old by the election. People have processed it, one way or another," he said. "Biden needs fresh material, a new attack, rather than kicking a dead political horse."
His comments put the incumbent president in an awkward spot. Mr Biden is running for re-election despite his own cratering poll numbers, which show him losing support among key parts of his voter coalition including younger voters and people of colour. His likely opponent for the general election is none other than Mr Trump, who remains the frontrunner for the Republican nomination heading in to the Iowa caucuses this weekend.

It's not just a dead political horse, but another desperately dishonest ones: Despite the claims of the Democrat-Media Junta that Trump planned to join "his troops" at the Capitol and seize power, just-released Secret Service documents show he never had any plan to go to the Capitol at all.

It has become one of the enduring messages of the House Democrats' final report on the Jan. 6 riot: Donald Trump had a plan and an intention to go directly to the U.S. Capitol to join those disrupting the certification of the 2020 election results.
"The Committee's principal concern was that the President actually intended to participate personally in the January 6th efforts at the Capitol, leading the attempt to overturn the election either from inside the House Chamber, from a stage outside the Capitol, or otherwise," the committee wrote in its final report in December, 2022.
"The Committee regarded those facts as important because they are relevant to President Trump's intent on January 6th. There is no question from all the evidence assembled that President Trump did have that intent," it added.
Lawmakers, pundits and journalists have all echoed that line in the months before and after the report's release.
"I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said, comparing Trump to Italy's fascist leader during World War II.
In his speech at Valley Forge on Friday reviving his argument that Trump and MAGA supporters pose a threat to democracy, President Joe Biden pointedly avoided making the claim. In fact, he took the opposite tact and suggested a cowardly Trump declined to join his supporters storming the Capitol.
"He promised he would right them -- right them. Everything they did, he would be side by side with them. Then, as usual, he left the dirty work to others. He retreated to the White House," Biden said.
Such conflicting portrayals may be confusing to voters. That confusion is also rooted in an undisputed fact: Trump never actually went to the Capitol after his speech on the Ellipse.
The House Democrats' claims are based on two pieces of testimony. Some Trump aides recalled to the committee the 45th president mentioning in a meeting on Jan, 4, 2021, that he might want to go to the Capitol.
And then former aide ~~Cassidy Hutchinson~~ Madison Cornbread claimed in a disputed account based on hearsay that on the way back from his speech Trump lunged at the driver of the presidential limo to commandeer it and take it to the Capitol. The Secret Service and Trump deny that happened, and no evidence has emerged to validate Hutchinson's claim. That did not stop the account from making its way into mainstream media.
The Democratic Party's narrative is further undercut by internal Secret Service documents reviewed by Just the News, which show there was no plan heading into the Jan. 6 event to take Trump to the Capitol.

He didn't go, and there was never a plan to go.

But the media which will get you deplatformed for "misinformation" continues lying, claiming he was going to cross the Mall like it was the Rubicon and crown himself as emperor.

Meanwhile, Michelle Obama proclaims herself "so terrified" over a possible Republican victory in 2024.

She also beats the dead political horse of January 6th, claiming that Our Precious Democracy is at stake.

No, not from the invasion that our treasonous "president" has invited to our shores.

Over a failed riot three years ago.

"I am terrified about what could possibly happen," Obama said of the 2024 race in a Monday episode of Jay Shetty's "On Purpose" podcast.
"Because our leaders matter. Who we select, who speaks for us, who holds that bully pulpit -- it affects us in ways that sometimes, I think, people take for granted," she said when asked to name some of her fears that keep her awake.
"The fact that people think that: 'Government, does it really even do anything?' And I'm like, 'Oh my God, does government do everything for us,'" Obama, 59, continued. "And we cannot take this democracy for granted. And sometimes, I worry that we do."
"Those are the things that keep me up," she said.

Democrats are terrified that black voters are abandoning them, so they've instructed their most elderly partisans to get out there and terrify black voters so they'll vote as ordered.

Rep. James Clyburn, an early Biden supporter who propelled him to victory in South Carolina, now says he is 'very concerned' with the president's standing with the black community.
Clyburn was asked on CNN about President Joe Biden's African American approval ahead of a Biden trip to Clyburn's home state on Monday.
'I'm not worried -- I'm very concerned,' the South Carolina Democrat said.
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My problem is that we have not been able to break through that MAGA wall in order to get to people exactly what this president has done,' Clyburn said.
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Former President Barack Obama recently told Biden about the concerns he has with the structure of his reelection campaign, according to reports by the Washington Post and Politico.
Obama reportedly grew 'animated' at a lunch with Biden before the holidays about the threat of Trump's possible return to power.
He reportedly told Biden that his campaign lacked authoritative decision makers in key states who didn't have to clear everything with the White House.

Clyburn raised the bloody shirt and claimed Trump -- who had barely started his election campaign in 2015 -- was "tied" to the racist shooting at the AME church in Charleston.

"Is it fair to tie in any way what happened at the Emanuel AME Church to Donald Trump?" Tapper asked Clyburn "Donald Trump had barely launched his campaign when that attack happened."
"I think it is very clear that Donald Trump's utterances way back before Charlottesville or at the time of Charlottesville ties him to what happened at Mother Emanuel," Clyburn claimed. "The fact of the matter is, that young man went into that church's basement, joined with those worshipers in Bible study, and murdered them."
"And he said at the time that he was attempting to create a race war. But the people of Charleston, South Carolina, the families of the affected victims all came together to get beyond hate and reach out to help continue this pursuit of a more perfect union," he continued. "Donald Trump looked at those people in Charlottesville and said that there were good people on both sides. And those people were uttering things like, 'Jews will not replace us.' That is a religion. The AME Church Emanuel, that is religion. And Donald Trump has said things in support of those activities that ties him closely to what happened at Mother Emanuel."

No word whether or not the Democrats are responsible for the thousands and thousands of murders and assaults committed by blacks against whites, by relentlessly dehumanizing white people and convincing some blacks that "liberation" from "white supremacy" justifies a code of "By Any Means Necessary."

Okay, so that's the standard. The rules are simple:
1. Project your malice onto a popular opponent
2. Accuse the popular opponent as being guilty of bad things you don't like
3. Immediately group all supporters - even casual supporters or just mere non-detractors - in with the popular opponent
4. Pursue collective punishment
This is all quite straightforward and quite old. It's how industrial-scale slaughter happens. Genocide, democide, whatever-cide.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:34 PM

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1
Tit for tat.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at January 09, 2024 01:34 PM (Mzdiz)

2 One set of rules, to coin a phrase.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 09, 2024 01:36 PM (l8gTz)

3 Democrats are terrified that black voters are abandoning them, so they've instructed their most elderly partisans to get out there and terrify black voters so they'll vote as ordered.

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It's not the urban blacks they're terrified of losing, I'm to guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:36 PM (GBKbO)

4
That'll show 'em.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 09, 2024 01:36 PM (+oR7L)

5 Nood duties performed

Posted by: Doof at January 09, 2024 01:36 PM (+cH+C)

6 Good. Bring it.

But those states are probably safe. Let's see it in a swing state, boys.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM (Zp1WF)

7 >>"Those are the things that keep me up," she said.

Other things that keep MO up:

1.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM (bNf8H)

8 Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft ...
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Any relation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM (Zp1WF)

9 "No word whether or not the Democrats are responsible for the thousands and thousands of murders committed by blacks against whites..."

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Thousands and thousands? Is this blog math, or are we using hyperbole because we're a third world shithole country now?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (dGCAG)

10 I lie awake in my mansion every night wondering if people realize how much they should respect and bow before government authority.

Posted by: Michele Obama at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (AD14M)

11
We can't come together and reach across the aisle if we keep treating them like they treat us. We're better than that.

Posted by: Ghost of Senator John McCain at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (+oR7L)

12 >Republicans Threaten to Throw Biden Off the Ballot in Missouri... and Florida
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this will not happen

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (geLO8)

13 8 Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft ...
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Any relation?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM (Zp1WF)

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No because my last name isn't Ashcroft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

14 "Seeing what happened in Colorado tonight ... makes me think -- except we believe in democracy in Texas -- maybe we should take Joe Biden off the ballot in Texas for allowing 8 million people to cross the border since he's been president, disrupting our state far more than anything anyone else has done in recent history," Patrick said.
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So you won't do it. Why even discuss if you know you'll do nothing of the sort? "COLORADO ARE HYPOCRITES" is weak sauce, dude.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (Zp1WF)

15 I wonder what the result would be of the parties running their own caucuses instead of state run primaries?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (D7oie)

16 Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft ...
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Any relation?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM (Zp1WF)

Of course.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (dGCAG)

17 There's a blog out there--haven't perused it in months--but it lists the steps necessary for the U.S. to descend into all-out civil war. The last one prior to the outbreak of mass violence is something like "formation of separate political structures in regions controlled by different parties."

Dems really should have thought about the precedent they were setting.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (bhRsz)

18

FIRST AND ONLY WARNING. DIRECT OVERT CALLS FOR VIOLENCE WILL GET YOU THE BAN-HAMMER

Posted by: JoshO at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (LmUpe)

19 Oh do it, GOP! Do it, do it, do it!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (9yWhg)

20 ""The fact that people think that: 'Government, does it really even do anything?' And I'm like, 'Oh my God, does government do everything for us'"

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Just another deep intellectual thought from an affirmative action darling.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (i7Q7S)

21 Why would anyone outside the DNC (such as public officials or even Democrat voters) get to decide who they put on their ballots, or even who they nominate?

Posted by: t-bird at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (Hqy82)

22 Cool. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (xcxpd)

23 "Jan 6 will be four years old by the election. People have processed it, one way or another," he said. "Biden needs fresh material, a new attack, rather than kicking a dead political horse."
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"The story is dead. It doesn't matter whether it's true or a lie, it's dead. We need a new story. Gotta gin up a new demonization mechanism one way or another."

What an asshole.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (Zp1WF)

24 20 ""The fact that people think that: 'Government, does it really even do anything?' And I'm like, 'Oh my God, does government do everything for us'"

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Just another deep intellectual thought from an affirmative action darling.
Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (i7Q7S)

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"I should help myself? That's racist."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

25 Meanwhile, Michelle Obama proclaims herself "so terrified" over a possible Republican victory in 2024.

She also beats the dead political horse of January 6th, claiming that Our Precious Democracy is at stake.

No, not from the invasion that our treasonous "president" has invited to our shores.

Over a failed riot three years ago.
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hahaha, willowed and on topic. National Jenga:

...the same folks that pulled off the Arab Spring, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, etc. before succeeding with the one in the U.S. in 2020 have positioned the post-revolution U.S. population in a way that half the country will believe they were cheated and the election was stolen regardless of which side wins.

*chef's kiss*

It really was a brilliant scheme.

Posted by: Nikki Haley respects Michigan's decision to do whatever it takes for good to triumph at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (+RC1q)

26 We must protect democracy by having only one candidate on the ballot.

- CNN, msnbc, and every other outlet reading the DNC talking points verbatim.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (xOptO)

27 Does threatening come before or after pouncing?

Or are they pouncing on threatening?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (zsagX)

28 Republicans Threaten
.......

I'm askeered.

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (v0R5T)

29 Who was the last Democrat to say something truthful?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (n2Iei)

30
And again, I don't think that's the right way to do it.

Testicular circumference, check please.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (3qE2b)

31 "The fact that people think that: 'Government, does it really even do anything?' And I'm like, 'Oh my God, does government do everything for us,'" Obama, 59, continued. "And we cannot take this democracy for granted. And sometimes, I worry that we do."
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What about people like me, Michelle? What about those of us who think that government does a lot. Not only does a lot, but does a staggering amount.

And that virtually all of it is bad and destructive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (Zp1WF)

32 Terrified?

That's not Big Dick Energy.

Be better, Michael. Be better.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (RVloE)

33 Does the govt do everything for us?

The govt has 1.5 billion pounds of cheese stockpiled in a cave near Springfield, Missouri. It is not a serious govt.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (uKeRS)

34
Chapter IX, subsection C of the Republican Queensbury Rules of Politics says we can't fight democrats using their tactics.

Can I get a Huzzah?

Posted by: Senator Mitt Romney at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (+oR7L)

35 "Republicans threaten."

Which they do all day long. Wake me when they actually do something.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (Q0kLU)

36 If we can cheat, we can't be beat!!

Posted by: Johnny Cockrant at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (SYTee)

37 Republicans Threaten to Throw Biden Off the Ballot in Missouri... and Florida

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Does any of the FL coast have cliffs by the sea? Could DeSantis name one "The Ballot?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (0FoWg)

38 31 What about people like me, Michelle? What about those of us who think that government does a lot. Not only does a lot, but does a staggering amount.

And that virtually all of it is bad and destructive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (Zp1WF)

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Then the government should do more for you, providing your room and board for the next 10-20.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

39 He reportedly told Biden that his campaign lacked authoritative decision makers in key states who didn't have to clear everything with the White House.
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LOL. Flashes of 2015, when apparently Bill told Hillary that she was fucking up her campaign.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (Zp1WF)

40 The PA GOPe Cucks have some kind of bill keeping Biden off the ballot. What happens is anybody's guess.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (R4t5M)

41

KILL ALL HUMANS!

Posted by: B. Rodriguez at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (uKFdr)

42 8 Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft ...
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Any relation?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM (Zp1WF)

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No because my last name isn't Ashcroft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)
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I used to hang out with him from time to time when we were in college. Does that count?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (7fElN)

43 "I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said, comparing Trump to Italy's fascist leader during World War II."

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Weapons grade projection here.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (i7Q7S)

44 The only possible reason you could dispute the good things brought to us all by affirmative action is your seething MAGA extremism. Now I have another thing to lie awake worrying about in my mansion... surrounded by Secret Service.... while being waited on by my staff...

Posted by: Michele Obama at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (AD14M)

45 Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft ...
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Any relation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:37 PM

He's John Ashcroft's son. I knew Jay years ago when we were kids (13-14yo) at a summer program. He was a little bit of a shithead back then, hopefully he grew up.

Posted by: Bert G at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (VARTN)

46 Damn, they are still lying about Charlottesville?

We have a real problem in a democracy when half the country bases all of their beliefs on demonstrable lies.

It't not that they can't see the truth it's that they won't.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (ZLI7S)

47 The former first lady listed other concerns, including wars “in too many regions,”

Lol. There should only be two wars! Three, tops!

What a fucking numbskull.

Posted by: spindrift at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (AA8bA)

48
"Like what Paulie said about the mattresses."

- - Pete Clemenza

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:42 PM (x0n13)

49 this will not happen
Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (geLO

There is a real chance of it happening in Missouri. Our state has some fairly based people in the executive branch.

Now, Texas...I don't know. Patrick's words sound more like hot air. And DeSantis probably won't do it given that he's running for POTUS; it has too much of the look of a conflict of interest.

But if either state actually did it--more so than Missouri, which is redder and has fewer electoral votes--that would be a big deal.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:42 PM (bhRsz)

50 >>Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft

'Let the Eagle Soar'

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:42 PM (RVloE)

51 Does threatening come before or after pouncing?

Or are they pouncing on threatening?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2024 01:40 PM (zsagX)

Seize --> Pounce --> Threaten

be better, TB

Posted by: Doof at January 09, 2024 01:42 PM (+cH+C)

52 Tit for tat.
Posted by: publius,

Even trade? And, do tats come in pairs?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 09, 2024 01:42 PM (xOptO)

53 47 The former first lady listed other concerns, including wars “in too many regions,”

Meaning Ukraine war good... Israeli war bad

Posted by: It's me donna at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (n2vyf)

54 It is hard to imagine being this corrupt. I need to get out more.

Posted by: DOYLE at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (Z8Yh2)

55 No because my last name isn't Ashcroft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

I thought it was Asscraft.

I mean, that's what I heard.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (dGCAG)

56 >>"I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md.,

Funny. Coming from the Party that Deified Il Duche.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (RVloE)

57 when you’ve lost Mittens…

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (C3sl/)

58 "I think it is very clear that Donald Trump's utterances way back before Charlottesville or at the time of Charlottesville ties him to what happened at Mother Emanuel"

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They still talk about Charlottesville!!!!

LOL

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (i7Q7S)

59 Can we find a couple of Hamas crazies that will run Liz Cheney over and ululate for the cameras?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (pZ64F)

60 "I think it is very clear that Donald Trump's utterances way back before Charlottesville or at the time of Charlottesville ties him to what happened at Mother Emanuel," Clyburn claimed. "The fact of the matter is, that young man went into that church's basement, joined with those worshipers in Bible study, and murdered them."
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Okay, so that's the standard. The rules are simple:
1. Project your malice onto a popular opponent
2. Accuse the popular opponent as being guilty of bad things you don't like
3. Immediately group all supporters - even casual supporters or just mere non-detractors - in with the popular opponent
4. Pursue collective punishment

This is all quite straightforward and quite old. It's how industrial-scale slaughter happens. Genocide, democide, whatever-cide.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (Zp1WF)

61 56 >>"I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md.,

Funny. Coming from the Party that Deified Il Duche.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (RVloE)

I feel bad for the cancer that has to reside in his horrid frame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (x0n13)

62 Does any of the FL coast have cliffs by the sea? Could DeSantis name one "The Ballot?"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (0FoWg)

No cliffs, but a lot of boardwalks overlooking alligator-infested swamps.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (bhRsz)

63 35 "Republicans threaten."

Which they do all day long. Wake me when they actually do something.
Posted by: Mary Poppins'
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The idiotic throw Trump of the ballot means that the GOP uniparty members themselves are at risk. If that premise is blessed by Scotus, imagine all the fun in the states where campaigns are based on kicking people off the ballot rather than campaigning.

That is why the GOP is threatening Biden, not to help Trump, but to preserve their grifting opportunities. Lawfare is mostly done by leftists and GOPe are at risk especially in blue and purple states from being tossed off the ballot for various spurious reasons.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (QD2wq)

64 Re-po:
After warning the public for years how dangerous Trump and his supporters are for democracy imagine the chaos that's going to engulf the country in November whether Trump's on the ballot or not. Chaos that requires drastic measures by the junta to "maintain the peace" and protect said democracy.

The left: "We tried to warn you about the threat Trump posed, but you wouldn't listen. You must suffer the consequences."
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All the leftist hand wringing is an act. They want Trump on the ballot so they can beat us over our heads with another insurrection and/or threat to their democracy that requires "extreme measures."

You'd have thought we learned something from J6...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (Q4IgG)

65 Trump is a bubbling fool and yet his mere utterances just magically compels people to act.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (uKeRS)

66 "The story is dead. It doesn't matter whether it's true or a lie, it's dead. We need a new story. Gotta gin up a new demonization mechanism one way or another."

It's an election year. Time for a white cop to justifiably kill a black criminal in the line of duty so the media can incite race riots.

Posted by: davidt at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (SYTee)

67 Let's hear a shout if you think Biden will be a candidate after the convention?

Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (YmK/H)

68 No cliffs, but a lot of boardwalks overlooking alligator-infested swamps.

Designed only by women and minorities.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (9yWhg)

69 Then the government should do more for you, providing your room and board for the next 10-20.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)
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Nah. Provide me with a grave, maybe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (Zp1WF)

70 DeSantis doesn’t have to do it. In Maine the SOS scrunt unilaterally removed trump from the ballot. The Florida SOS can do the same with no input from DeSantis. As can any sos from any red state.

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (C3sl/)

71 He's John Ashcroft's son. I knew Jay years ago when we were kids (13-14yo) at a summer program. He was a little bit of a shithead back then, hopefully he grew up.
Posted by: Bert G at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (VARTN)

The Ashcrofts are the closest thing Missouri has to a political dynasty. It's to be expected.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (bhRsz)

72 46 Damn, they are still lying about Charlottesville?

We have a real problem in a democracy when half the country bases all of their beliefs on demonstrable lies.

It't not that they can't see the truth it's that they won't.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (ZLI7S)

See also: Germany, 1933-1945(ish)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (x0n13)

73 >Does threatening come before or after pouncing?

Or are they pouncing on threatening?

Posted by: Thomas Bender
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there also needs to be seizing and capitalizing

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (geLO8)

74 It's an election year. Time for a white cop to justifiably kill a black criminal in the line of duty so the media can incite race riots.
Posted by: davidt at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (SYTee)
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Probably, but also probably something else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (Zp1WF)

75 Church shooting happens in 2015 when Jeb! was the (R) front runner.

Democrats: BUT CHARLOTTESVILLE!!!

I mean, a serious country would laugh these people off the public stage.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (i7Q7S)

76 I feel bad for the cancer that has to reside in his horrid frame.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (x0n13)

Why, that's a terrible thing to say!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (R4t5M)

77 74 It's an election year. Time for a white cop to justifiably kill a black criminal in the line of duty so the media can incite race riots.
Posted by: davidt at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (SYTee)
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Probably, but also probably something else.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (Zp1WF)

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Gay curious Muslim shoots up gay club and blames Trump?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

78 Kowalski: Didja ever notice, every once in a while, you come across a person you shouldn't mess with?
That's me.

Urban yute: Man, you ol white muthafu-

Kowalksi whips out .45, points in yutes direction
----

The disparity in violence between the races in this country will either require a change of hearts

Or a million Kowalksi's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhjkY45ztH0

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (FCbAQ)

79 I always thought Ashcroft sounded like a name from a HP Lovecraft story.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

80 Real eyes realize real lies.

Posted by: Just look at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (NBVIP)

81 The former first lady listed other concerns, including wars “in too many regions,”
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Lol. There should only be two wars! Three, tops!

What a fucking numbskull.
Posted by: spindrift at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (AA8bA)

Technically we're not in any.

Not that it means anything anymore, we send our military wherever we want these days, but sure. Anyone saying we shouldn't be all over the globe, I'm not going to disagree with them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (dGCAG)

82 >>I feel bad for the cancer that has to reside in his horrid frame.

Cancer really let us down, there.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (RVloE)

83 First Prize goes to whatever Governor says "we're throwing all candidates for federal office off our ballot, because we're done with your fag thing. Kick rocks."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (0FoWg)

84 While I get the desire to make Democrats play by their own rules, the problem is these states aren't important to them.

They're in the process of trying to get Trump kicked off of ballots in states he had to win. They'd gladly exchange removing Biden fron FL, for removing Trump from WI.

What they need to do is start prosecuting everyone connected to Biden, and doing it in states where they can get convictions.

Posted by: Rbastid at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (5+s9S)

85 79 I always thought Ashcroft sounded like a name from a HP Lovecraft story.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

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Bad guy in a Dickens story?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

86 46 Damn, they are still lying about Charlottesville?

We have a real problem in a democracy when half the country bases all of their beliefs on demonstrable lies.

It't not that they can't see the truth it's that they won't.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (ZLI7S)

+++++

That's because the Left loves their lies. They keep them save and warm in their pockets, bring them out and smother them with love like little pampered pets, never to let go of them or let them escape.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (CmpAD)

87 70 DeSantis doesn’t have to do it. In Maine the SOS scrunt unilaterally removed trump from the ballot. The Florida SOS can do the same with no input from DeSantis. As can any sos from any red state.
Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 01:45 PM (C3sl/)

They should. If they do it would force SCOTUS to put an end to the crap they're doing to Trump. Or would it?

Joe Biden is in fact acting in treasonous faction by erasing our borders. That said, two-tiered justice system. Will SCOTUS bend over?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (x0n13)

88 The Ashcrofts are the closest thing Missouri has to a political dynasty. It's to be expected.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (bhRsz)
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Have the Blairs faded away?

Posted by: Drax the Destroyer at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (xYckV)

89 Gah!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (xYckV)

90 I like how Mooch is pretending Trump would be in a bunch of wars as Putin enters year 2 of his war in Ukraine and Gaza is on fire.

She's just as dumb as Kamel Toe. She's just a tiny bit more articulate.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:49 PM (i7Q7S)

91 See also: Germany, 1933-1945(ish)
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JJ, if Hitler had died in 1939 his statue would be on every major thorough fare in Germany. Guy was red hot.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 01:49 PM (DqJmd)

92 That's because the Left loves their lies. They keep them save and warm in their pockets, bring them out and smother them with love like little pampered pets, never to let go of them or let them escape.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (CmpAD)
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It isn't love, but need. They do love lying, but that is merely obtaining joy from obligation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:49 PM (Zp1WF)

93 88 The Ashcrofts are the closest thing Missouri has to a political dynasty. It's to be expected.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (bhRsz)
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Have the Blairs faded away?
Posted by: Drax the Destroyer at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (xYckV)

Well she gained a little weight after the Facts of Life

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:49 PM (xcxpd)

94 76 I feel bad for the cancer that has to reside in his horrid frame.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (x0n13)

Why, that's a terrible thing to say!
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (R4t5M)

As we all know, the truth sometimes is a terrible thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:49 PM (x0n13)

95 The Ashcrofts are the closest thing Missouri has to a political dynasty. It's to be expected.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:46 PM (bhRsz)

The Carnahans tried, but it didn't take.

I don't know which was a bigger disaster, Mel's plane crash or his son's last congressional race.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:50 PM (dGCAG)

96 Okay, so that's the standard. The rules are simple:
1. Project your malice onto a popular opponent
2. Accuse the popular opponent as being guilty of bad things you don't like
3. Immediately group all supporters - even casual supporters or just mere non-detractors - in with the popular opponent
4. Pursue collective punishment

This is all quite straightforward and quite old. It's how industrial-scale slaughter happens. Genocide, democide, whatever-cide.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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It is generally quite stupid to try to push a minority group to try to slaughter the majority.

Minority groups can of course rule majority groups for a time but only at the expense of not riling them up too bad to go bug nuts crazy.

Rwanda massacres occurred because the Hutu were the majority and had a long list of grievances against the minority Tutsis. Then you had the whole Congo region adjacent that created all sorts of spillover violence. That is one case where I specifically blame teh Belgian royal family for their hideous mismanagement of the Congo.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 01:50 PM (QD2wq)

97 She still looks good for 60 though

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:50 PM (xcxpd)

98 Have the Republicans in Fl and MO who threatened that been raided by the FBI yet?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (RSbhh)

99 Cleanup on Aisle 18.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (Wnv9h)

100 He's John Ashcroft's son. I knew Jay years ago when we were kids (13-14yo) at a summer program. He was a little bit of a shithead back then, hopefully he grew up.
Posted by: Bert G at January 09, 2024 01:41 PM (VARTN)
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I knew Jay in college. He was a bit of an asshole back then, too.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (7fElN)

101 Have the Blairs faded away?
Posted by: Drax the Destroyer at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (xYckV)

Well she gained a little weight after the Facts of Life
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

That actress has some antiques and collectibles show on MeTV. She still looks good.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (9yWhg)

102 JJ, if Hitler had died in 1939 his statue would be on every major thorough fare in Germany. Guy was red hot.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 01:49 PM (DqJmd)

Still is, in a different way.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (bhRsz)

103 I'll show you a horse.

Posted by: Mooch Unzipped at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (OZjDX)

104 Michelle Obama hasn't been this terrified since she heard Wolverine was doing her prostate exam.

Posted by: Wally at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (hqVaF)

105 3 Democrats are terrified that black voters are abandoning them, so they've instructed their most elderly partisans to get out there and terrify black voters so they'll vote as ordered.

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It's not the urban blacks they're terrified of losing, I'm to guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:36 PM (GBKbO)
________________________

It's more likely the influencers of the culture (both urban and otherwise). Hell, I saw a black guy quoting Tupac lyrics on abortion recently. A dead ex-con still holds influence in the black culture. Imagine the influence of live, idolized, celebrities and sports figures (both regionally and nationally). But, we're talking about Clyburn...so it has less to do with persuasion, than it does out and out fraud. He has his own little army of derelicts in SC. Just ask Hillary about that and how she had the primary swept right out from under her.

Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (dIske)

106 >>Have the Blairs faded away?

Acid Rain turned their hair green.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (RVloE)

107 The media are trumpeting the claim that Jay Ashcroft was 'flailing' and 'humiliated' by a brilliant CNN anchor.

http://tinyurl.com/mr2hbsk2

I don't see it.

Posted by: norrin radd at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (dN+2t)

108
"Toot toot Tutsis goodbye!"

- - Hutu National Anthem

(Now I denounce myself)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (x0n13)

109
That's because the Left loves their lies. They keep them safe and warm in their pockets, bring them out and smother them with love like little pampered pets, never to let go of them or let them escape.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM

Nice.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (3qE2b)

110 85 79 I always thought Ashcroft sounded like a name from a HP Lovecraft story.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

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Bad guy in a Dickens story?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

Nah, Dickens would be more like 'Mister Badnews' or 'Squire Bitterroot' or some such.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (xcxpd)

111 When Trump remarked that they weren't after him, they were after us, he was 100% correct.

The left could've waited him out, knowing full well they own every apparatus of government under the Sun.

They were terrified that he garnered enough support to win once and increase that support the second time around.

I don't see our powers that be as being any type of vulnerable, but they are pretty dang insecure.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (KbCG3)

112 Fani and her boy toy prosecutor really screwed the pooch. And each other.

@Techno_Fog

Fulton County Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade is alleged to be having an affair with DA Fani Willis.

But there's something more damaging-

Wade committed fraud by billing 24 hours for work on 1/5/21.

This violates Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20 (false statements). It's a felony.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

113 It is generally quite stupid to try to push a minority group to try to slaughter the majority. ...
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 01:50 PM (QD2wq)
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It is, but I don't think that's what they're trying. If it were, then "allies" - self-hating whites, etc. - wouldn't be welcome or recruited.

They're gearing up for a democide, not a genocide.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (Zp1WF)

114 Nah, Dickens would be more like 'Mister Badnews' or 'Squire Bitterroot' or some such.

Wackford Squeers

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (9yWhg)

115 @46

>>It't not that they can't see the truth it's that they won't.

As I've noted, I've sat in a room for months with Michael Moore, while he was doing post production work on Fahrenheit 9/11.

So I had a front row seat to observe and hear an arch leftists thoughts and motivations.

His reality, thinking and motivation are so foreign and alien from ours, that we might as well be different sub-sets of humans.

The maniacs in charge are completely out of their minds but they are hellbent on victory by any means necessary and they control vast swathes of all of the instrumentalities of power, the only thing that is uncertain is how fast their timeline is to assuming total power and control.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (zsagX)

116 a brilliant CNN anchor.
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I don't believe those words have appeared in that order on the internet before.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (xYckV)

117 114 Nah, Dickens would be more like 'Mister Badnews' or 'Squire Bitterroot' or some such.

Wackford Squeers
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (9yWhg)

lol

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (xcxpd)

118 The Carnahans tried, but it didn't take.

I don't know which was a bigger disaster, Mel's plane crash or his son's last congressional race.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:50 PM (dGCAG)

The latter. If you can't successfully run on your late daddy's name, you've got no business being in politics.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (bhRsz)

119 "Toot toot Tutsis goodbye!"

- - Hutu National Anthem

(Now I denounce myself)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Well, you took a stab at it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (R4t5M)

120 This violates Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20 (false statements). It's a felony.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)
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That law only applies to Donald Trump and his attorneys.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (Zp1WF)

121 110 Nah, Dickens would be more like 'Mister Badnews' or 'Squire Bitterroot' or some such.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (xcxpd)

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Squire Bitterroot is genius!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

122 "85 79 I always thought Ashcroft sounded like a name from a HP Lovecraft story.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

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Bad guy in a Dickens story?"

Sherlock Holmes' other brother?

Posted by: Tuna at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (oaGWv)

123 "Wade committed fraud by billing 24 hours for work on 1/5/21."

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Oh come on man, Democrats are just so smart that they can do work twice as fast as anyone else!

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (i7Q7S)

124 First Prize goes to whatever Governor says "we're throwing all candidates for federal office off our ballot, because we're done with your fag thing. Kick rocks."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (0FoWg)

I'm personally waiting for a Governor to start shelling some federal fort within his state.

It's time.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (dGCAG)

125 50 quatloos that Ketanji and Sonia will vote to uphold the Colorado Supreme Court ruling. I do not believe Kagan will vote with them, but there's no limit to what the Leftists will threaten her with. The Leftists do not want a 9-0 vote. They want a 6-3 vote, so they can turn their yelling up to eleventy that the Republican-nominated Justices are all Trump lackeys.

Posted by: Gref at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (5fDan)

126 "Republicans Threaten" is that like "Republicans Seize" or 'Cat barfs hairball"?

Never threaten. Just do. Them Dems never threaten. They just hit you between the eyes and dare you to fight back.

Posted by: Iblis at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (9221z)

127 >>Wade committed fraud by billing 24 hours for work on 1/5/21.

>>This violates Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20 (false statements). It's a felony.

The filing isn't the strongest thing I have read...but, the basis for it is GA Law and it appears that Fani and her BoyToy Prosecutor are not in a good place.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (RVloE)

128 All the leftist hand wringing is an act. They want Trump on the ballot so they can beat us over our heads with another insurrection and/or threat to their democracy that requires "extreme measures."

You'd have thought we learned something from J6...
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Not all of the left wants Trump, especially those tied to the political reality. They remember 2016 when all the leftists wanted Trump to be the opponent against can't lose Hillary.

Neither conservatives or leftists generally understand much about populism. That generally arises when the elite structure has become entirely self serving and the impetus by the common people is to get rid of the whole lot of them or at least punish them by taking away their power and perks.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (QD2wq)

129 Sherlock Holmes' other brother?
Posted by: Tuna

That was Mycroft.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (9yWhg)

130 "This violates Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20 (false statements). It's a felony."

================

Um, and?

(Spoiler alert: This will be a "clerical error" that amounts to nothing)

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (i7Q7S)

131 101 Have the Blairs faded away?
Posted by: Drax the Destroyer at January 09, 2024 01:48 PM (xYckV)

Well she gained a little weight after the Facts of Life
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

That actress has some antiques and collectibles show on MeTV. She still looks good.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:51 PM (9yWhg)

Yeah, jokes aside, Lisa Wenchel seems pretty, happy and well adjusted.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (xcxpd)

132 "This is just going to be a tit for tat and it's just not gonna end well," DeSantis said.

Finally. One of these guys realizes we need tats for our tits.

Posted by: blaster at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (IFNME)

133 Sherlock Holmes' other brother?
---------------
Shamus?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (DqJmd)

134 >>The maniacs in charge are completely out of their minds but they are hellbent on victory by any means necessary

I have tried, for years, to warn about the dangers of Utilitarians.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (RVloE)

135 "Sherlock Holmes' other brother?
Posted by: Tuna

That was Mycroft."

I know that. That's why I said Sherlock's other brother.

Posted by: Tuna at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (oaGWv)

136 125 50 quatloos that Ketanji and Sonia will vote to uphold the Colorado Supreme Court ruling. I do not believe Kagan will vote with them, but there's no limit to what the Leftists will threaten her with. The Leftists do not want a 9-0 vote. They want a 6-3 vote, so they can turn their yelling up to eleventy that the Republican-nominated Justices are all Trump lackeys.
Posted by: Gref at January 09, 2024 01:54 PM (5fDan)

Anything less than 9-0 would have horrid implications. Meh, even if it went 9-0, the calls to abolish the court would be deafening.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (x0n13)

137 Typical racist white men thinking a black woman can’t work a full 24 hours a day.

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (C3sl/)

138 Sherlock Holmes' other brother?
Posted by: Tuna

That was Mycroft.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (9yWhg)
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In some continuities, there is also Sherrinford.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (xYckV)

139 Sherlock Holmes' other brother?
Posted by: Tuna

John C.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (x0n13)

140 Other than trolling it won't work, unless the Marxists are victorious in Colorado and Maine

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 01:57 PM (fwDg9)

141 By mid-2022, there were 500,000 "known gotaways". Now what in someone's background would be so bad that he feared a stroll through the gate with the other 8 million?

Sponge brain, who are these criminals and why are they here?

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 01:57 PM (expyu)

142 "This is just going to be a tit for tat and it's just not gonna end well," DeSantis said.
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Tit-for-tat generally leads to strong outcomes whenever its tested in game theory. Immediate equivalent response helps prevent escalation.

An eye for an eye isn't sophisticated, but it works.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:57 PM (Zp1WF)

143 >>That actress has some antiques and collectibles show on MeTV. She still looks good.

The differences between her good looks and Sebastian Bach's good looks are too small for me to find her attractive.

Also. Blonde. Not a big fan of the blondes.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:57 PM (RVloE)

144 I fear SCOTUS will say Colorado gets to decide how elections are run in Colorado.

Posted by: davidt at January 09, 2024 01:58 PM (SYTee)

145 "Meanwhile, Michelle Obama proclaims herself "so terrified" over a possible Republican victory in 2024."

Try the salad, you fat, bloated cow. And lose the wig. You look like Ru Paul's brother.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 09, 2024 01:58 PM (CJqj6)

146 >>Um, and?

>>(Spoiler alert: This will be a "clerical error" that amounts to nothing)

Willis personally signed off on all the payments which then got funneled back to her in the form of multiple expenses vacations.

I don't District Attorney's get to blame their clerks for approving fraudulent payment documents.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:58 PM (ZLI7S)

147 137 Typical racist white men thinking a black woman can’t work a full 24 hours a day.

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 01:56 PM (C3sl/)

++++

LOL

Posted by: washrivergal at January 09, 2024 01:59 PM (CmpAD)

148 Not a big fan of the blondes.
Posted by: garrett

I'm traditionally more of a ginger fan, but I've had a blonde thing going on lately.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 01:59 PM (9yWhg)

149
Try the salad, you fat, bloated cow. And lose the wig. You look like Ru Paul's brother.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 09, 2024 01:58 PM (CJqj6)

RuPaul is much prettier

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 01:59 PM (C3sl/)

150 The president should focus on Bidenomics instead. From everything I've heard from the media, that's a smashing success.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 09, 2024 01:59 PM (CwhoI)

151 >>Typical racist white men thinking a black woman can’t work a full 24 hours a day.

Even if she could, she only deserves to get paid for 70% of that 24 hours.

Those are the rules, Sugartits.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (RVloE)

152 112 Fani and her boy toy prosecutor really screwed the pooch. And each other.

@Techno_Fog

Fulton County Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade is alleged to be having an affair with DA Fani Willis.

But there's something more damaging-

Wade committed fraud by billing 24 hours for work on 1/5/21.

This violates Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20 (false statements). It's a felony.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Presuming the invoice references a single person. If there are multiple people working on 1/5 - say 3 people x 8hrs - then that charge isn't fraudulent.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (N39Ws)

153 An eye for an eye isn't sophisticated, but it works.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 01:57 PM (Zp1WF)

You mean Gandhi or whoever said that "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" thing didn't know what he was talking about?! *mind blown*

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (bhRsz)

154 I guess I just don't have the same standards for feminine pulchritude that others do, or I need new glasses.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (n2Iei)

155 It is, but I don't think that's what they're trying. If it were, then "allies" - self-hating whites, etc. - wouldn't be welcome or recruited.

They're gearing up for a democide, not a genocide.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Too hard to make that distinction when bloodletting starts. Your skin turns out to be your uniform and simply put, few conservatives live within urban bastions. Rwanda was a bit different as the Hutus and Tutsis were more or less intermingled and it was not ideological.

Ironically it the urban hipster white allies most likely to be liquidated in such idiocy. Note too that in the urban riots of 2020, the blacks rioting were directly threatened by Latino gangs to leave their people alone.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (QD2wq)

156 A Constitutional republic has nothing to fear from a tyrant, dictator or populist.

They fear Trump because they have gutted the protections and removed all safeguards to further their own power.

Notice how every breathless warning of the dire consequences of electing Trump never call for reducing the power of government?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (TzW+Y)

157 What State AG's can, and should do, is to investigate any electoral fraud claim and hang it as a millstone on Biden, or whatever candidate they do choose. The Left has been cheating in cities they do control to gain the electoral college votes. They have expanded that model Nationwide, and at that scale, flaws should stand out.they need to prosecute.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (e6atA)

158 The differences between her good looks and Sebastian Bach's good looks are too small for me to find her attractive.
Also. Blonde. Not a big fan of the blondes.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:57 PM (RVloE)

How about the small differences between Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston in their youth.
I think their relationship was doomed when they noticed they were making love to their mirror images.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (FCbAQ)

159 The latter. If you can't successfully run on your late daddy's name, you've got no business being in politics.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (bhRsz)

It was a luxurious loss, however not entirely his fault. The state was redistricting, and the black Democrats needed to make sure they kept their seat, so they basically gobbled up much of his 2nd District territory, and added it to District 1.

By the time they were done carving him out, taking much of South City away from him, he was left with a district that was very much more Republican leaning, and I think Ann Wagner took the race, as she was moved from District 3 to 2, with the new map.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:01 PM (dGCAG)

160 Wouldn’t it make the world just 1/2 blind?

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 02:01 PM (C3sl/)

161 Too hard to make that distinction when bloodletting starts. Your skin turns out to be your uniform and simply put, few conservatives live within urban bastions. Rwanda was a bit different as the Hutus and Tutsis were more or less intermingled and it was not ideological.

Ironically it the urban hipster white allies most likely to be liquidated in such idiocy. Note too that in the urban riots of 2020, the blacks rioting were directly threatened by Latino gangs to leave their people alone.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:00 PM (QD2wq)
++++
It could well turn into generalized slaughter once they lose control of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:01 PM (Zp1WF)

162 Presuming the invoice references a single person. If there are multiple people working on 1/5 - say 3 people x 8hrs - then that charge isn't fraudulent.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Nope, the guy was a special hire probably done illegally as the County Commission did not sign off on it, and it did not include others as the regular legal staff of the DA was to provide those services (paralegals, staff attorneys, etc.).

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:01 PM (QD2wq)

163 I feel bad for the cancer that has to reside in his horrid frame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 01:44 PM (x0n13)

-----------

Out: Sympathy for the Devil.
In: Sympathy for the Cancer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (V9heG)

164 An eye for an eye, also known as the lex talionis was actually meant to act as a limitation on revenge.

You could only do to somebody else what they did to you. You could not go further.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (9yWhg)

165 SCOTUS was inert on elections in 2020, has been inert on the clearly unconstitutional Illinois gun bans, and, I expect inert on preserving Trump's rights

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (expyu)

166 Wouldn’t it make the world just 1/2 blind?
Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 02:01 PM (C3sl/)
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No, it makes a small subset of the world blind (those who keeping poking out eyes). It makes a larger subset half-blind (those who fucked around and found out) and most people don't go blind at all because they know the consequence of poking eyes out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (Zp1WF)

167 Sherlock Holmes' other brother?
---------------
Shamus?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (DqJmd)

Shinola.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (dGCAG)

168 >>Sherlock Holmes' other brother?

John?

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (RVloE)

169 If the million protesters on Jan6 wanted to seize DC...they would have.

They wanted to send a message to the elites that stealing an election was not acceptable.

And the elites threw hundred of them in prison for that reason.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (ibTVg)

170 All the leftist hand wringing is an act. They want Trump on the ballot so they can beat us over our heads with another insurrection and/or threat to their democracy that requires "extreme measures."

And what magical GOP candidate will escape that smear?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (Q0kLU)

171 >>Presuming the invoice references a single person. If there are multiple people working on 1/5 - say 3 people x 8hrs - then that charge isn't fraudulent.

Techno Fog is a former federal prosecutor. I think he's pretty aware of how these payment documents work.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (ZLI7S)

172 Not that Illinois is a swing state, but Blacks here in the Chicago area, are irate at Biden over giving away all their freebies to the Illegals. Chicago blacks are the most loyal dem voters in the country, so if he has lost them.....

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (gwrBY)

173 164 An eye for an eye, also known as the lex talionis was actually meant to act as a limitation on revenge.

You could only do to somebody else what they did to you. You could not go further.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (9yWhg)

Yes. Well said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (xcxpd)

174 Yo

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (4U+62)

175 P. E. Holmes

People Experiencing Holmes

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (9yWhg)

176 172 Not that Illinois is a swing state, but Blacks here in the Chicago area, are irate at Biden over giving away all their freebies to the Illegals. Chicago blacks are the most loyal dem voters in the country, so if he has lost them.....
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (gwrBY)

=======

They should vote, then. They should vote against Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

177 Shinola.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (dGCAG)
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He doesn't know me.

Posted by: Shitfrom at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (xYckV)

178 Not that Illinois is a swing state, but Blacks here in the Chicago area, are irate at Biden over giving away all their freebies to the Illegals. Chicago blacks are the most loyal dem voters in the country, so if he has lost them.....
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (gwrBY)

....Cook County will make up the ballots another way.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (bhRsz)

179 Fulton County Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade is alleged to be having an affair with DA Fani Willis.

But there's something more damaging-

Wade committed fraud by billing 24 hours for work on 1/5/21.

This violates Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20 (false statements). It's a felony.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Presuming the invoice references a single person. If there are multiple people working on 1/5 - say 3 people x 8hrs - then that charge isn't fraudulent.

It does now.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (CsUN+)

180 160 Wouldn’t it make the world just 1/2 blind?
Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 02:01 PM (C3sl/)

_________________________________

Except in Greece where the disability fraud has resulted in over 80% being legally blind. (this has been a public service announcement from UBI...Useless Bits of Information)

Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (dIske)

181 174 Yo

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (4U+62)

Plagiarism!

Posted by: Yo at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (5fDan)

182 169. remember that day. People were so pissed about the steal in Atlanta, and that the GOPe did nothing to stop it. There was a sense of real desperation

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (gwrBY)

183 If Trump is some NAZI wannabe dictator what everyone hates - and remember this is the left's official take on him - there is no need to remove him from the ballot, obviously he'll lose in a free and fair election.

The only reason you would remove him is if you believe he would get the majority of the votes in a free and fair election...saving "democracy" by preventing the people voting for someone you don't like? That's like poisoning someone with the clot shot so they can die from cancer instead of get wuflu...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (ibTVg)

184 Mooch is running, as soon as Sundowner is given the offer he can't refuse

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (fwDg9)

185 "Wackford Squeers"

I named my son's favorite stuffed dog Wackford after having watched the '82 mini series. I think my son still has old Wackford stored away somewhere.

Posted by: Tuna at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (oaGWv)

186 The latter. If you can't successfully run on your late daddy's name, you've got no business being in politics.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 01:53 PM (bhRsz)

WTF?

Posted by: RFK Jr at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (IFNME)

187 181 174 Yo

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (4U+62)

Plagiarism!
Posted by: Yo at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (5fDan)

lol

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (xcxpd)

188 It could well turn into generalized slaughter once they lose control of it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Possibly or it could be something like the Lebanese Civil War or the Time of Troubles in Belfast.

People are not potatoes and have volition which makes much of the social science research that the Left relies upon faulty. Commies in the Sov Union had the same problem with economics--people simply did not behave as their theory predicted.

Most of social science is aimed at trying to overcome 'wrong' thinking by figuring out means of control rather than working with individual's natural preferences. Simply put, the more elite they think they are--then the more they believe they have license to meddle in other persons' lives.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (QD2wq)

189 Even trade? And, do tats come in pairs?
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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They are, apparently, cheaper by the dozen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (XeU6L)

190 178. Spot on, but point is that this could alter voting in swing state cities

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (gwrBY)

191 "This is just going to be a tit for tat and it's just not gonna end well," DeSantis said.

Finally. One of these guys realizes we need tats for our tits.
Posted by: blaster at January 09, 2024 01:55 PM (IFNME)
.......

And nipple bars. Don't forget the nipple bars.

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (v0R5T)

192 Not that Illinois is a swing state, but Blacks here in the Chicago area, are irate at Biden over giving away all their freebies to the Illegals. Chicago blacks are the most loyal dem voters in the country, so if he has lost them.....
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (gwrBY)

=======

They should vote, then. They should vote against Biden.

Blacks have to decide if they're tired of being treated like retarded children who can be bought with baubles. The Dems won't stop treating them that way until it no longer pays.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)

193 I don't understand how blacks can turn their backs on the man who started the civil rights movement in a Delaware church basement in 1955.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2024 02:07 PM (2ovLw)

194 If the reasoning is sound for removing Trump from the ballot, then it is equally sound for removing Biden:
He has directed rebellion against the United States via invasion of illegals.

But that's silly, useless tit-for-tat:
This calls for escalation.

Remove Democrat senators from the ballot for supporting Biden.
Remove Democrat House candidates from the ballot for supporting Biden.

Declare the Democrat Party supports the invasion and ban all Democrats from the ballot.

Let them sue. And ignore the ruling, print the ballots anyway.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 09, 2024 02:07 PM (TzW+Y)

195 The man with a converted Jewish daughter, Son in law, and Jewish grandchildren is a Nazi? I hate the left

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:07 PM (gwrBY)

196 I don't understand how blacks can turn their backs on the man who started the civil rights movement in a Delaware church basement in 1955.

He was also instrumental in setting up the Underground Railroad, unlike that attention hog Sojourner Truth.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (CsUN+)

197 Not that Illinois is a swing state, but Blacks here in the Chicago area, are irate at Biden over giving away all their freebies to the Illegals. Chicago blacks are the most loyal dem voters in the country, so if he has lost them.....
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (gwrBY)

=======

They should vote, then. They should vote against Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

When Pritzker ran for governor the first time, with Illinois having led the nation in citizens fleeing for other states, he picked up 400,000 more votes than were cast in the previous governor's race, nearly all of which came from Cook County.

Voters have nothing to do with election outcomes in this state.

Posted by: Methos at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (Dnobf)

198 Remember those illegals that DeSantis sent to Martha's Vineyard that were then moved to the joint base on Cape Cod?

Cape Cod is not reporting an outbreak of Tuberculosis.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

199 I'm in favor of anything that could tip Joe into a raging, incoherent meltdown.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (n2Iei)

200 Take Jon tester off the ballot in Montana. Brown in Ohio. GOP has total control there

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (gwrBY)

201 Putting in 8 hours of billed time on one case takes a lot more than 8 hours. You gotta take breaks, pee, crap, eat, check the internet for shits and giggles, etc. The only way I've ever been able to bill 8 hours in 8 hours is at a deposition or in court. In my office, researching for a motion to establish a real estate broker's duty to advise a seller-client of the consequences of providing a non-required engineer's report, 8 hours would take all day.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (KAi1n)

202 172 Not that Illinois is a swing state, but Blacks here in the Chicago area, are irate at Biden over giving away all their freebies to the Illegals. Chicago blacks are the most loyal dem voters in the country, so if he has lost them.....
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (gwrBY)

Yes, black Chicagoans are seriously. It's one thing to be ignored but expected to vote a certain way -- but quite another to become an "out" group and newcomers to be the "in" group. Ah, prvilege! How fleeting it is!

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (hK9SP)

203 Mooch is running, as soon as Sundowner is given the offer he can't refuse
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (fwDg9)

—————-

Joe has been around long enough to know they’ll never live up to any promise they make him. He either stays in power or his family goes to prison.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (u73oe)

204 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (7Q7Ca)

205 I haven't decided if this is tragedy or farce yet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (9UlRk)

206 now

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (ZLI7S)

207 184 Mooch is running, as soon as Sundowner is given the offer he can't refuse
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (fwDg9)

_______________________________________

Nah, the last time someone started hinting at her running, she immediately popped onto a talk show and shared how she suffers from depression. Everything involving her went very quiet after that. I get the sense that Obama wants her to run, and she's perfectly content to live a wealthy lazy life going forward.

Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (dIske)

208 "The fact that people think that: 'Government, does it really even do anything?' And I'm like, 'Oh my God, does government do everything for us,'" Obama, 59, continued. "And we cannot take this democracy for granted. And sometimes, I worry that we do."

if you didn't know who this melonhead was, wouldn't you think it sounded like hillary clinton?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (B1FKF)

209 Blacks have to decide if they're tired of being treated like retarded children who can be bought with baubles. The Dems won't stop treating them that way until it no longer pays.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)

Ain't that the truth!

Posted by: Geezer surviving on Social Security and MediCare at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (FCbAQ)

210 We must DESTROY democracy to SAVE it.

This is the dumbest possible approach to anything and anyone that buys it is too f*cking retarded to exist on a civilized planet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (7Q7Ca)

211 I haven't decided if this is tragedy or farce yet.

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Opera Bouffe at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (CsUN+)

212 If the Democrats have lost Pierre Delecto they're.. ah who am I kidding no cares what Pierre Delecto thinks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (Yem6A)

213 Ray Epps has finally been sentenced. No jail time. $500 fine, 100 hours of community service, one year probation.

It's good to be an FBI operative.

http://tinyurl.com/kfmedpsk

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (woPEM)

214 Remember those illegals that DeSantis sent to Martha's Vineyard that were then moved to the joint base on Cape Cod?
Cape Cod is no[w] [?] reporting an outbreak of Tuberculosis.
Posted by: JackStraw

I did my final 2 week summer camp as a MANG signal platoon looey there in 1995. Had a good time.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (KAi1n)

215 56 >>"I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md.,

Funny. Coming from the Party that Deified Il Duche.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (RVloE)
____

The parties switched!

Posted by: Explains Everything at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (fs1hN)

216 197 When Pritzker ran for governor the first time, with Illinois having led the nation in citizens fleeing for other states, he picked up 400,000 more votes than were cast in the previous governor's race, nearly all of which came from Cook County.

Voters have nothing to do with election outcomes in this state.
Posted by: Methos at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (Dnobf)

========

I think Chicago's cheating operates based on existing voter rolls and then saying those on it voted. If blacks vote, then it decreases the number of available votes to cheat with.

But that may be 20th century thinking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (GBKbO)

217
I don't understand how blacks can turn their backs on the man who started the civil rights movement in a Delaware church basement in 1955.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2024 02:07 PM

Paying $7.00 a pound for butter while listening to such a blatant lie might just be a 'teachable moment' to members of the African American community.

The left loves 'teachable moments' but maybe not so much when it bites them on the ass.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (3qE2b)

218 I haven't decided if this is tragedy or farce yet.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (9UlRk)

Let's go with Tragedy!
https://youtu.be/nYCRY3ePwng

Posted by: Disco Doof at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (+cH+C)

219 "And he said at the time that he was attempting to create a race war."

Exactly, who is "he" ?

It was the 2015 shooter

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (RHGPo)

220 ...having led the nation *for a decade*... (197)

Posted by: Methos at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (Dnobf)

221 A government that "does everything for you" is probably not a democracy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (9UlRk)

222 Blacks have to decide if they're tired of being treated like retarded children who can be bought with baubles. The Dems won't stop treating them that way until it no longer pays.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)

Ain't that the truth!

Posted by: Geezer surviving on Social Security and MediCare

When they give me back all my FICA money with interest, I'll happily walk away from SS and Medicare.

Posted by: Opera Bouffe at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (CsUN+)

223 We have mail in ballots (nationwide?) with no signature confirmation and the ballots are sent to a central locale for machine counting where no supervision is permitted. Ballot harvesting is legal in many states.
If you object to election outcomes you get sued or imprisoned.
Tell me again how our elections matter.
Even Mexico has better elections.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (MeG8a)

224 197. Missing a few facts there. Pritzker gathered those votes in the cook county suburbs in 2018, from Rauner voters from 2014.

Rauner went full abortion , and lost many GOP Voters in the county

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (gwrBY)

225 Possibly or it could be something like the Lebanese Civil War or the Time of Troubles in Belfast.
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Imma thinking Dirty War that never ends.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (pZ64F)

226 ....as Sundowner is given the offer he can't refuse
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM (fwDg9)

A nine year old, holding an ice cream cone?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (dGCAG)

227 Farmer claims he was offered lap dance if he agreed to wind turbine on his land

Energy company offering Welsh landowners incentives to sign up to green schemes denies the allegations

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (RHGPo)

228 You'd think Netanyahu would have more respect for Joe given the key role he played in the Entebbe raid.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 09, 2024 02:12 PM (n2Iei)

229 Ray Epps has finally been sentenced. No jail time. $500 fine, 100 hours of community service, one year probation.

It's good to be an FBI operative.

http://tinyurl.com/kfmedpsk

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (woPEM)

True patriots should take care of this guy. It's high time we on the right developed something akin to BLM or antifa to deal with our enemies. They claim we do it already- we may as well actually do it.

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:12 PM (ky+MF)

230 I like tits.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 09, 2024 02:12 PM (7Q7Ca)

231 I haven't decided if this is tragedy or farce yet.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (9UlRk)

Let's go with Tragedy!

I'm a Grand Guignol kind of guy, myself.

Posted by: Opera Bouffe at January 09, 2024 02:12 PM (CsUN+)

232 213 Ray Epps has finally been sentenced. No jail time. $500 fine, 100 hours of community service, one year probation.

It's good to be an FBI operative.

http://tinyurl.com/kfmedpsk
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (woPEM

Fed! Fed! Fed!

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (hK9SP)

233 the hope is that the blacks stay home, they will never vote GOP

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (gwrBY)

234 I'm a Grand Guignol kind of guy, myself.

Posted by: Opera Bouffe

Well, s***, I really messed that up.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (CsUN+)

235 Government is the source of most of the problems average Americans face now.

Long gone are the days when the government hacks took your money and spent it on hookers and blow - now they use it to intentionally make your life worse.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (ibTVg)

236 I like tits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 09, 2024 02:12 PM (7Q7Ca)

They're certainly better than tats

Posted by: Doof at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (+cH+C)

237 Energy company offering Welsh landowners incentives to sign up to green schemes denies the allegations

The Welsh are already doing their part. Once they learned that vowels cause global warming, they purged them from their language.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (9yWhg)

238 @205 embrace the power of "and"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (Yem6A)

239 213. That is a disgrace, but if he now a convicted felon, his defamation suits are worthless right?

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (gwrBY)

240 When Pritzker ran for governor the first time, with Illinois having led the nation in citizens fleeing for other states, he picked up 400,000 more votes than were cast in the previous governor's race, nearly all of which came from Cook County.

Voters have nothing to do with election outcomes in this state.
Posted by: Methos at January 09, 2024 02:08 PM (Dnobf)

Are you sure IL voters weren't just deeply moved by learning of Pritzker's tranny brother, I mean sister, I mean sibling?

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (bhRsz)

241 This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (Zp1WF)

242 Mike Johnson should be replaced as a US Congressman. He is a weak leader and is having Karl Roves child.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (eYF7X)

243
They're certainly better than tats
Posted by: Doof at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (+cH+C)

WINNING!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 09, 2024 02:14 PM (7Q7Ca)

244 Long gone are the days when the government hacks took your money and spent it on hookers and blow - now they use it to intentionally make your life worse.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (ibTVg)
++++
Yet they still also spend it on hookers and blow.

They, too, embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (Zp1WF)

245 When they give me back all my FICA money with interest, I'll happily walk away from SS and Medicare.
Posted by: Opera Bouffe at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (CsUN+)

Making a generalized point.
The main difference is that those benefits are promised after a life of productivity. Once you've run your race depending on it being there, it's hard to not be dependent on it.

Posted by: Geezer surviving on Social Security and MediCare at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (FCbAQ)

246 233 the hope is that the blacks stay home, they will never vote GOP
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM (gwrBY)

========

I have no idea how blacks actually vote.

Their vote totals are dominated by places like Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, and other blue enclaves dominated by Democrat political machines that are well-known for massaging things to get what they want done.

Do blacks vote at 90-10 Democrat? I have no idea. The only thing we have to base that on is blue enclave vote totals and exit polls (spit).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

247 I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said, comparing Trump to Italy's fascist leader during World War II."

I can't wait until Stacey Abrams tries this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (gFsc7)

248 Ray Epps has finally been sentenced. No jail time. $500 fine, 100 hours of community service, one year probation.

It's good to be an FBI operative.

http://tinyurl.com/kfmedpsk
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (woPEM)

100 hours community service? Does he not get credit for time served already, given his rather substantial activities on and before the 6th?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (dGCAG)

249 Do we really want Biden off of the primary ballots in these states?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (EXyHK)

250 Rural county clerks can under this reasoning, disregard any votes for Biden.

Simply declare in Election Day you have found Biden committed insurrection and rebellion and is ineligible for office.
And don't count his votes.

If 99% for Biden is legitimate in Detroit, it's legitimate in the opposite for Trump.
While the cities sway states, they can only because 30-40% of the rural vote goes to the Democrats.
Zero that out and they lose.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (TzW+Y)

251 @227 unfortunately for the Welsh guy the lapdancer is a tranny with leakage.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (Yem6A)

252
the hope is that the blacks stay home, they will never vote GOP

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:13 PM

Ward bosses in Philly don't give a shit if they show up or not. By 8 pm they will have voted.

I'd rather they actually show up and vote for RFK Jr. The real 'protest' vote.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (3qE2b)

253 >>241 This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She looks sad. She needs some consoling.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (eYF7X)

254 ...billing 24 hours for work on 1/5/21.

So, he billed for 24 hours work. . .on work to go after Trump. . .the day before the "great insurrection".

Posted by: Bert G at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (VARTN)

255 Imma thinking Dirty War that never ends.
Posted by: Pudinhead
---------
All wars end eventually when enough people get tired of killing and being killed. That is where Hobbes is wrong--anarchy itself is an unstable situation and order of some sort--usually despotism starts at the lower levels and then scales up.

Some wars end quick, some can take a long while and usually foreign interference has a role in continuing or ending civil disorder and some, like in the Middle East, smolder on and off for centuries.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (QD2wq)

256 218 I haven't decided if this is tragedy or farce yet.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (9UlRk)

Let's go with Tragedy!
https://youtu.be/nYCRY3ePwng
Posted by: Disco Doof at January 09, 2024 02:11 PM (+cH+C)

Tragedy tomorrow, a Comedy tonight!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (xcxpd)

257
Voters have nothing to do with election outcomes in this state.

You don't say....

Posted by: The 10,000 voters in WI in 2020 that were aged 120 or older at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (ibTVg)

258 I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said, comparing Trump to Italy's fascist leader during World War II."

I can't wait until Stacey Abrams tries this.

Will a forklift fit in the door of the Capitol?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (CsUN+)

259 This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Looks like she's fallen. I should go help her up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)

260 I think Chicago's cheating operates based on existing voter rolls and then saying those on it voted. If blacks vote, then it decreases the number of available votes to cheat with.

But that may be 20th century thinking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (GBKbO)

Cook County/Chicago famously stole the 1960 election for Kennedy.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (hK9SP)

261 >>This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz

Look how shy she is...hiding her elbows like that.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (RVloE)

262 253 >>241 This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She looks sad. She needs some consoling.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (eYF7X)

I'd like to show her how, in the next 90 minutes, all of her problems can be solved by my penis.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (xcxpd)

263 Their vote totals are dominated by places like Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, and other blue enclaves dominated by Democrat political machines that are well-known for massaging things to get what they want done.

Do blacks vote at 90-10 Democrat? I have no idea. The only thing we have to base that on is blue enclave vote totals and exit polls (spit).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

Look at election returns from Mississippi Delta counties (overwhelmingly black). If they don't vote 90% Democrat, the figure's something pretty close to it.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM (bhRsz)

264 Okay, so that's the standard. The rules are simple:
1. Project your malice onto a popular opponent
2. Accuse the popular opponent as being guilty of bad things you don't like
3. Immediately group all supporters - even casual supporters or just mere non-detractors - in with the popular opponent
4. Pursue collective punishment

Stage 3 has been achieved right here with me.

Posted by: Ginger at January 09, 2024 02:17 PM (a3Q+t)

265 I haven't decided if this is tragedy or farce yet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2024 02:09 PM (9UlRk)

-----------

Tragifarce.

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 09, 2024 02:17 PM (V9heG)

266 After seeing what the East German Stasi and courts are doing in D.C right now, why would any patriot want to even visit a Fucking city right now?

American cities are no better than 1955 Moscow right now

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:17 PM (gwrBY)

267 Around convention time Sundowner will all of a sudden claim ill health and the Democrats will go to panic mode looking for a shoe in candidate everyone will back without question.
Barky administration 3.0

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:17 PM (fwDg9)

268 Except in Greece where the disability fraud has resulted in over 80% being legally blind. (this has been a public service announcement from UBI...Useless Bits of Information)
Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2024 02:05 PM

Well, that certainly explains some of the driving I saw. I wonder what MA's excuse is.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2024 02:17 PM (Wnv9h)

269 Missing a few facts there. Pritzker gathered those votes in the cook county suburbs in 2018, from Rauner voters from 2014.

Rauner went full abortion , and lost many GOP Voters in the county
-
I'm not talking about votes switched away from Rauner (I was regrettably one and figured Pritzker was just another Democrat).

My point was that there were vastly more votes counted in 2018 and no reasonable way to explain where they came from. Pritzker still had them in 2022, and that definitely wasn't people pissed at Rauner.

Posted by: Methos at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (Dnobf)

270 Do blacks vote at 90-10 Democrat? I have no idea. The only thing we have to base that on is blue enclave vote totals and exit polls (spit).

Before the leaky toilet in Atlanta stopped all the vote counting throughout the country, the NYT was showing live exit poll data broken down by race and sex.

Black men were voting for Trump at > 30% rate.

Note in the final "fortified" totals you don't see any of that...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (ibTVg)

271 >>I'd like to show her how, in the next 90 minutes

Smart of you to work in the commute time.

And to allow for traffic.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (RVloE)

272 267 Around convention time Sundowner will all of a sudden claim ill health and the Democrats will go to panic mode looking for a shoe in candidate everyone will back without question.
Barky administration 3.0
-------
I think you mean 4.0

Posted by: ET at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (spjJL)

273 Their vote totals are dominated by places like Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, and other blue enclaves dominated by Democrat political machines that are well-known for massaging things to get what they want done.

Do blacks vote at 90-10 Democrat? I have no idea. The only thing we have to base that on is blue enclave vote totals and exit polls (spit).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You can do the analyses but it is a pain to do so and ironically related to Gary King and his acolyte Gay's research agendas. The method is called ecological regression and the premise is that you use precincts where the demographic concentrations are all white or all black to estimate the outcomes in mixed population precincts.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (QD2wq)

274 Nixon stole Illinois back in 1968, according to Pat Buchanan.

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (gwrBY)

275 Do blacks vote at 90-10 Democrat? I have no idea. The only thing we have to base that on is blue enclave vote totals and exit polls (spit).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

Probably not 90/10, or anything close to it, but it can also be said, Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (dGCAG)

276 When you say "She also beats the dead political horse," are you referring to her c0ck?

Posted by: Never Really Been Proud Until Barry at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (O2ySq)

277 After seeing what the East German Stasi and courts are doing in D.C right now, why would any patriot want to even visit a Fucking city right now?

If there was an opposition party they would be pushing an explicitly anti-urban set of legislation now.

Cities literally drive people crazy...and leftwing.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (ibTVg)

278 274 Nixon stole Illinois back in 1968, according to Pat Buchanan.
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:18 PM (gwrBY)

Payback for 1960.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (x0n13)

279 Reading the bit on DeSantis the "considering" DeSantis is doing is to dismiss it.

He's saying it's a bad idea.

If our side doesnt realize what time it is we're NGMI.

Posted by: blaster at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (IFNME)

280 This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

her behind is getting dirty

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2024 02:20 PM (v0R5T)

281 >>241 This lounging brunette has less than no confidence in any representative process or system in the United States:
http://tiny.cc/p3myvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She looks sad. She needs some consoling.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM

Well don't look at me!

Posted by: Cap'n Ned at January 09, 2024 02:20 PM (Wnv9h)

282 I think suburban Karen's do not like paying more money for everything. It's cutting into their wine and sex toy funds. This cannot stand.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:20 PM (eYF7X)

283 Ray Epps has finally been sentenced. No jail time. $500 fine, 100 hours of community service, one year probation.

It's good to be an FBI operative.

http://tinyurl.com/kfmedpsk
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 09, 2024 02:10 PM (woPEM)
----------------

Just wow.

Posted by: WisRich at January 09, 2024 02:20 PM (G0vdT)

284 Probably not 90/10, or anything close to it, but it can also be said, Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (dGCAG)

You can't out-Santa Claus Santa Claus.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 09, 2024 02:20 PM (FCbAQ)

285 My take, is that Biden is the only national Dem who can win Penn again, even with cheating.

Buddy in Chester county, says there are many still there who see him as kindley old Uncle Joe from Scranton.

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:21 PM (gwrBY)

286 275 Probably not 90/10, or anything close to it, but it can also be said, Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (dGCAG)

========

It's true the GOP doesn't try.

It's also true that blue enclaves have steadily gotten worse over the past decades to the point where they are shitholes.

I suspect the black community is largely non-committal towards voting in general, especially in urban centers, because why bother?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

287 173 164 An eye for an eye, also known as the lex talionis was actually meant to act as a limitation on revenge.

You could only do to somebody else what they did to you. You could not go further.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (9yWhg)

Yes. Well said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (xcxpd)
----
Which of course is nonsense. Somebody has to start the escalation. If he picks up a stick and beats me with it, he has gone further, from civilized behavior to fight. Now I'm going to get a 2x4 and crack his skull.

Posted by: Ciampino - Tit-for-tat never worked as it usually was neverending at January 09, 2024 02:21 PM (qfLjt)

288 >>>"Those are the things that keep me up," she said.

Phrasing?

Posted by: m at January 09, 2024 02:21 PM (mn2bz)

289 I'd like to show her how, in the next 90 minutes, all of her problems can be solved by my penis.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM

Your appendage can fix her dishwasher, garbage disposal, and car, and take down her Christmas lights?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (a3Q+t)

290 Reading the bit on DeSantis the "considering" DeSantis is doing is to dismiss it.

He's saying it's a bad idea.

If our side doesnt realize what time it is we're NGMI.

?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (CsUN+)

291 Your appendage can fix her dishwasher, garbage disposal, and car, and take down her Christmas lights?
____

Like a Swiss Army knife?

Posted by: Explains Everything at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (fs1hN)

292 282. Karen's are one issue voters. Abortion. Husbands can lose their jobs and their house, but Abortion is it for them

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (gwrBY)

293 Reading the bit on DeSantis the "considering" DeSantis is doing is to dismiss it.

He's saying it's a bad idea.

If our side doesnt realize what time it is we're NGMI.
Posted by: blaster at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (IFNME)

Spoiler: Our side still thinks the problem can be solved by running for office with better policy ideas.

Posted by: Methos at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (Dnobf)

294 Is this about us?

Posted by: Wine and sex toys at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (NBVIP)

295 "Obama reportedly grew 'animated' at a lunch with Biden before the holidays about the threat of Trump's possible return to power."

Animated, as in he sprang off the war in Big Mike's region and started uhh-ing?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (/PTEh)

296 Like a Swiss Army knife?
Posted by: Explains Everything at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM

I think Family Guy actually did that one.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (Wnv9h)

297 289. Is Garbage Disposal a sexual Term? KY ready?

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (gwrBY)

298 Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (dGCAG)

I'm no huge fan of the GOP, but this statement bothers me.

I'm always amazed by the thought that black people have any different wants and desires vis a vis gov't than white people. I've never heard anyone articulate what these differences are. The only reason black people don't vote GOP is b/c they are convinced the GOP will re-institute jim crow. Which to me doesn't speak well of the black community for believing such obvious nonsense.

The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

299 She looks sad. She needs some consoling.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM

Well don't look at me!
Posted by: Cap'n Ned at

Who can blame her. She just got dumped by TJM.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (n2Iei)

300 Tragedy tomorrow, a Comedy tonight!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (xcxpd)

Dibs on the Twins!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (N3zMI)

301 Republicans Threaten.....
___

ha

ha ha Hah

Haahahhahaahahahaahahha!!!

Posted by: Everybody at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (fs1hN)

302 277 Cities literally drive people crazy...and leftwing.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (ibTVg)

Ahem!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (x0n13)

303 I moved to Western CO for my job 14 years ago. Although it is a pretty area, there is nothing for me here except my job. I had always lived in big cities and missed the amount of things there are to do and the diversity of restaurants, cultural events, etc. Here, if you don't hike, ski, ect. there isn't a lot. With the events of the last several years, I am glad to be here and can more easily manage the boredom.

Posted by: Cheri at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (oiNtH)

304 Plan your evening ....
TODAY
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 7-10
The launch is scheduled for today.
Live at January 9 at 10:56 PM (CST), 11.56 PM EST

https://shorturl.at/fryJV

Posted by: Ciampino - shoot for the stars at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (qfLjt)

305 >>"Obama reportedly grew 'animated' at a lunch with Biden before the holidays about the threat of Trump's possible return to power."

You won't like him when he's animated.

Posted by: Zombie Chef at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (RVloE)

306 The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?

Affirmative action, aka quotas.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (CsUN+)

307 Sundowner has proven the President position can be a figure head, nothing less. Put in a couple mornings a week, vacation 1/2 the time.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (fwDg9)

308 278, Spot on JJ.

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (gwrBY)

309 289 I'd like to show her how, in the next 90 minutes, all of her problems can be solved by my penis.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:16 PM

Your appendage can fix her dishwasher, garbage disposal, and car, and take down her Christmas lights?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (a3Q+t)

Of course. Just like on the Hallmark Channel movies.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (xcxpd)

310 Trump dieclared his candidacy the day after the SC church shooting occured.

Clyburn claims dates and time are now racist.

Posted by: Guam is tipping over, too!!! at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (OBuuS)

311
Just wow.
Posted by: WisRich at January 09, 2024 02:20 PM (G0vdT)

Last I'd heard, Epps was going to get 6 months in prison (but probably in Club Fed).

As you said, Just wow.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (hK9SP)

312 298 I'm always amazed by the thought that black people have any different wants and desires vis a vis gov't than white people. I've never heard anyone articulate what these differences are. The only reason black people don't vote GOP is b/c they are convinced the GOP will re-institute jim crow. Which to me doesn't speak well of the black community for believing such obvious nonsense.

The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

========

It's less that they don't "speak to their needs" but that they simply don't talk to the black community at all. They start an urban office six months out of the election, pass out some flyers, and then leave, at best.

Otherwise, the cultural space is just Democrat dominated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

313 303. Too bad Colorado is a one party state

Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (gwrBY)

314 Reading the bit on DeSantis the "considering" DeSantis is doing is to dismiss it.

He's saying it's a bad idea.

If our side doesnt realize what time it is we're NGMI.
Posted by: blaster at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (IFNME)

He's got a whole new donor class he must answer to now. It IS a bad idea... for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (dGCAG)

315 In battleground state of Arizona, illegals have been cleared to vote. See Elon Musk's tweet today.

Posted by: jeff at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (ZiwLX)

316 What different needs could they have from the gov't?
____

An abundance of government jobs?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 09, 2024 02:26 PM (fs1hN)

317 Utah Senator Mitt Romney warned President Joe Biden against campaigning on Donald Trump's actions relating to the Jan 6 attack on Congress and then choked on a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Headlines we'd like to see at January 09, 2024 02:26 PM (vFG9F)

318 Probably not 90/10, or anything close to it, but it can also be said, Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.
Posted by: BurtTC

After fifty f'n years of being lied to, "try me" should be sufficient.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2024 02:26 PM (kfkXh)

319 267 Around convention time Sundowner will all of a sudden claim ill health and the Democrats will go to panic mode looking for a shoe in candidate everyone will back without question.
Barky administration 3.0
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:17 PM (fwDg9)

But there ain't no shoe-in candidate, that's the fun part.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2024 02:26 PM (i9ffA)

320 315 In battleground state of Arizona, illegals have been cleared to vote. See Elon Musk's tweet today.
Posted by: jeff at January 09, 2024 02:25 PM (ZiwLX)

========

But I thought the federal court wristslapping Hobbs about signature verification fixed AZ's elections.

Did they just find another way to cheat? Heaven forfend!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

321 298 I'm always amazed by the thought that black people have any different wants and desires vis a vis gov't than white people. I've never heard anyone articulate what these differences are. The only reason black people don't vote GOP is b/c they are convinced the GOP will re-institute jim crow. Which to me doesn't speak well of the black community for believing such obvious nonsense.

The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

Well, Biden, speaking to black people, claimed "They're gonna put you all back in chains!" so there's that.

Posted by: m at January 09, 2024 02:27 PM (mn2bz)

322 An eye for an eye, also known as the lex talionis was actually meant to act as a limitation on revenge.

You could only do to somebody else what they did to you. You could not go further.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 09, 2024 02:02 PM (9yWhg)

Yes. Well said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:03 PM (xcxpd)
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Which of course is nonsense. Somebody has to start the escalation. If he picks up a stick and beats me with it, he has gone further, from civilized behavior to fight. Now I'm going to get a 2x4 and crack his skull.
Posted by: Ciampino - Tit-for-tat never worked as it usually was neverending at January 09, 2024 02:21 PM (qfLjt)

Right and as a result, your skull gets cracked. But you don't get your arms and legs cut off. Eye for an Eye is proportional. A beating for a beating, a maiming for a maiming, a death for a death.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:27 PM (xcxpd)

323 307 It would be my first thought, nothing more. Changed it badly

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:27 PM (fwDg9)

324 >>What different needs could they have from the gov't?

Hi.

Posted by: Reparations at January 09, 2024 02:27 PM (RVloE)

325 Tragedy tomorrow, a Comedy tonight!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 02:15 PM (xcxpd)

Dibs on the Twins!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 09, 2024 02:24 PM (N3zMI)
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But not the mare sweat.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 09, 2024 02:27 PM (xYckV)

326 Good. The 'Republican' governments in Pennsylvania and Georgia just sat there while the blatant fraud and cheating took place.

Theoretically Republicans control the legislatures in pretty much every single swing state.

Getting thrown off the ballot in deep blue states won't affect Trump, but Biden getting removed from places like Georgia and Pennsylvania would mean that its basically impossible for him to win.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 09, 2024 02:28 PM (setIA)

327 Lancelot Link was smarter than Mike Obama.

Why he thinks anyone gives a monkey's uncle on what he has to say about anything is bizarre.

Posted by: Dr. Zaius at January 09, 2024 02:28 PM (Edu7X)

328 298 Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:19 PM (dGCAG)

Maybe they will remember the better times under Trump {low prices, low inflation, record low black unemproyment), and vote accordingly. Maybe, maybe.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (hK9SP)

329 Mooch announced her candidacy ever yes every Leftist will get up and cheer

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (fwDg9)

330 Oh, and you missed that they held a SECRET sentencing hearing (which is illegal btw), in which they gave Ray Epps a year of probation.

Surprising exactly nobody.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (setIA)

331 313 - Yes it is a one party state however, what makes it tolerable to me, is on this side of the Rockies, it is mostly conservative. At least the people I interact with are mostly sane if not our laws.

Posted by: Cheri at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (oiNtH)

332 Mike Pence’s Brother Greg Pence Latest GOP Rep. to Retire From Congress Amid Wave of Retirements

GTFO shitstick.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (eYF7X)

333 I'm no huge fan of the GOP, but this statement bothers me.

I'm always amazed by the thought that black people have any different wants and desires vis a vis gov't than white people. I've never heard anyone articulate what these differences are. The only reason black people don't vote GOP is b/c they are convinced the GOP will re-institute jim crow. Which to me doesn't speak well of the black community for believing such obvious nonsense.

The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

Recall Mitt Romney's comment, prior to the '12 election, which he didn't think was being recorded. It had a huge impact on black voters.

It's less a question of what politician SHOULD be doing for any particular "community," and more a matter of the party basically saying "we don't give a shit about you."

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:30 PM (dGCAG)

334 330 Oh, and you missed that they held a SECRET sentencing hearing (which is illegal btw), in which they gave Ray Epps a year of probation.

Surprising exactly nobody.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (setIA)

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"Trump telling people to peaceably assemble and then go home is incitement. Ray Epps telling people to storm the capital is just an oopsie."
-DU, 99.72% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)

335 >>Probably not 90/10, or anything close to it, but it can also be said, Gopes have done very little to give them reason to vote for them.
Posted by: BurtTC

You can't say that about Trump. The GOP, maybe.

But Trump has a track record that can't be denied, now.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:30 PM (RVloE)

336 American cities are no better than 1955 Moscow right now
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A friend invited me to go with him to a thing in Atlanta the other day. I didn't even think about going. It occurred to me that I no longer consider myself to be a citizen of the same country as city people.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM (woPEM)

337 Not good enough. "whereas democrats tried to assassinate 50 House Repubs at a baseball field, tried to kill US Senator Rand PAul twice, encouraged, sanctioned, and enabled the burning looting and mayhem in cities such as Portland and Minneapolis,
whereas no Democrat has condemned these things,
whereas no democrat has condemned the giving of money to hamas or iran,
whereas no democrat has condemned the insurrection at the border,
NO Democrat will be permitteed on any ballot, be it federal or state.

THAT's how u do it

Posted by: jb at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM (BU4e5)

338 It's less that they don't "speak to their needs" but that they simply don't talk to the black community at all. They start an urban office six months out of the election, pass out some flyers, and then leave, at best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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GOP campaign strategy was perfected in the 90's and 00's which culminated in the GWB administration. The idea was low voter participation, negative ads to drive casual voters away, and strokes to different identified groups such as soccer moms which promising something different to evangelicals and so on. Media based campaigning aimed at turning the base out.

The Dems after losing using that approach went broad in 2008 and casual voters helped sweep in a massive Dem majority. Some of those same casual voters then hated what the Dems did and gave the GOP historic gains in the House. Then the GOP did its best to piss off and ignore casual voters because they might ticket split in elections. GOP campaign staffers purposefully used and abused groups like the Tea Party in order to eliminate common demands that would affect their donor pool and candidates.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM (QD2wq)

339 22 Cool. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 09, 2024 01:39 PM (xcxpd)
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Assuming ganders are eaten, but I've always heard of roast goose, never roast gander. Also we have goose eggs and not gander eggs (looking at you gender benders .....). Surely in today's America, ganders should be able to lay eggs, for equity right?

Posted by: Ciampino - My Mum: gander eggs would be testicles at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM (qfLjt)

340 > In battleground state of Arizona, illegals have been cleared to vote. See Elon Musk's tweet today.
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Someone will cast their ballots for them. This was one, if not THE reason the junta opened the illegal's floodgates. Get millions of fresh, untainted ballots into the mix.

The left doesn't give a shit about the illegals.

They DO give a shit about their ballots.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM (Q4IgG)

341 Yes it is a one party state however, what makes it tolerable to me, is on this side of the Rockies, it is mostly conservative. At least the people I interact with are mostly sane if not our laws.
Posted by: Cheri at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (oiNtH)
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Yes. Western CO, culturally, is a different state.

I don't know to what degree it has been ruined by Denver yet, but California demonstrates that it will eventually be destroyed by the imperial capital.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:32 PM (Zp1WF)

342 >>>He reportedly told Biden that his campaign lacked authoritative decision makers in key states who didn't have to clear everything with the White House.
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When your administration is not only top down but addled your people are frozen in place for fear of a misstep.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump told the Christians I won't let you down at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (vPZ1C)

343 292 282. Karen's are one issue voters. Abortion. Husbands can lose their jobs and their house, but Abortion is it for them
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (gwrBY)

What husbands? That's the problem.

Rs lose BIG with single people...whether divorced, widowed, or always single. And on both genders, but the female side is way more lopsided and willing to vote...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (exHjb)

344 341 Yes. Western CO, culturally, is a different state.

I don't know to what degree it has been ruined by Denver yet, but California demonstrates that it will eventually be destroyed by the imperial capital.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:32 PM (Zp1WF)

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"I can't take CA's descent anymore! I'm moving to rural Colorado!"
-VDH, 32% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

345 Ray Epps had a Kangaroo Court that was going to give him as light as a sentence possible, just like Hunter was to get.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (fwDg9)

346 ... GOP campaign staffers purposefully used and abused groups like the Tea Party in order to eliminate common demands that would affect their donor pool and candidates.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM (QD2wq)
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And some of us never forgot it, and now look upon the degradation and destruction of the GOP with ambivalence if not joy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (Zp1WF)

347 GOPe getting out of Dodge like in 2018 in order to turn House control back to the Dems. They must think that Trump has a chance in 2024.

Course the Pence family has become more or less a joke in GOP voter circles if not establishment types.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:34 PM (QD2wq)

348 Maybe they will remember the better times under Trump {low prices, low inflation, record low black unemproyment), and vote accordingly. Maybe, maybe.
Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:29 PM (hK9SP)

I would hope Trump at some point can articulate with better clarity, just that, and at the same time make it clear much of the racial tension that exists in this country is precisely due to Democrats and the corporate media and the donor class all conspiring to undo all the progress that had been made in this country.

It shouldn't be that hard, but the R party doesn't seem particularly interested in fighting this fight.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:34 PM (dGCAG)

349 Posted by: Ciampino - My Mum: gander eggs would be testicles at January 09, 2024 02:31 PM

This is how it works. First, you take a gander at her. Then, if you like what you see, you goose her.

It's called courtship.

Posted by: Miss Emily at January 09, 2024 02:34 PM (a3Q+t)

350 There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

Most black folks vote democrat because they want some free shit and they perceive getting this free shit hurts YT in some form or fashion for past YT misdeeds. They will never admit it but that's how it is.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 09, 2024 02:34 PM (Edu7X)

351 342 >>>He reportedly told Biden that his campaign lacked authoritative decision makers in key states who didn't have to clear everything with the White House.
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When your administration is not only top down but addled your people are frozen in place for fear of a misstep.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump told the Christians I won't let you down at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (vPZ1C)

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Political machines are started by smart, aggressive people. They are inherited by yes men. They are run into the ground by incompetents who got to their position because they knew whos knob to polish.

I think the establishment as a whole is pretty firmly in that third stage right now, but Democrats don't have the Trump factor to try and actually inject some life into it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

352 I thought we were using Gentleman Rules?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (J8LnB)

353 347 GOPe getting out of Dodge like in 2018 in order to turn House control back to the Dems. They must think that Trump has a chance in 2024.

Course the Pence family has become more or less a joke in GOP voter circles if not establishment types.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:34 PM (QD2wq)

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The long term effect of the 2018 resignations was simply to weaken the GOPe in the House, but it's the perfect encapsulation of the GOPe's governing philosophy of trying to win by losing.

They just end up losing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

354 What's funny is, what would Dems actually be afraid of if Trump wins? He's been president, and none of the scary things they said he would do, happened.

The only reason to now be scared is because you (the dems) tried to destroy his life after stealing an election from him. Anything you'd be afraid of addres the consequences of your own actions.

Posted by: Rbastid at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (5+s9S)

355 345 Ray Epps had a Kangaroo Court that was going to give him as light as a sentence possible, just like Hunter was to get.
Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:33 PM (fwDg9)

With the possibility of a D not winning 2024 or not wanting to pardon, this was always gonna happen. If you are tried and convicted, no one can go "back for more"...so, a planned Op to put a piece of paper that now truly gives him future and forever immunity from further charges...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (exHjb)

356 The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

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It's less that they don't "speak to their needs" but that they simply don't talk to the black community at all. They start an urban office six months out of the election, pass out some flyers, and then leave, at best.

Okay, let's assume I forgot is correct. If blacks truly wanted only the same things as everyone else, there's no need to set up special offices and pander to them. The problem is that they want special treatment, which the Dems are only too glad to provide, but which our base would not find acceptable. Until that changes one way or another, we won't attract most of the black vote.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:36 PM (CsUN+)

357 Most black folks vote democrat because they want some free shit and they perceive getting this free shit hurts YT in some form or fashion for past YT misdeeds. They will never admit it but that's how it is.
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I didn't know they had it in for YouTube to such an extent.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 09, 2024 02:36 PM (xYckV)

358 354 What's funny is, what would Dems actually be afraid of if Trump wins? He's been president, and none of the scary things they said he would do, happened.

The only reason to now be scared is because you (the dems) tried to destroy his life after stealing an election from him. Anything you'd be afraid of addres the consequences of your own actions.
Posted by: Rbastid at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (5+s9S)

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"I was murdered by MAGA during Trump's presidency!"
-Jussie Smollett

"He was!"
-The View

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

359 You can't say that about Trump. The GOP, maybe.

But Trump has a track record that can't be denied, now.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:30 PM (RVloE)

I wonder how much of the hatred he gets from both parties is due to him not accepting the status quo, when it comes to which party owns which voter demographics.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:36 PM (dGCAG)

360 And some of us never forgot it, and now look upon the degradation and destruction of the GOP with ambivalence if not joy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The GOP party as constituted by its donors, campaign types, and many candidates has to either adapt to new circumstances or die like the Whig and Federalist parties before them. Many of them are incapable of actually deciding to govern in a democracy and that is why I think the party as such dies. It could be as sudden as the demise of the Progressive Conservative party (now that's a perfect uniparty name) in Canada. Going from the PM office to oblivion quickly.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:37 PM (QD2wq)

361 Maybe they will remember the better times under Trump {low prices, low inflation, record low black unemproyment), and vote accordingly. Maybe, maybe.
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Blacks are motivated by revenge. Getting even is their desire. Very few of them think about getting ahead. This is the problem. Flattery and endless pity is how blacks are herded.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 02:37 PM (LVNnd)

362 What's funny is, what would Dems actually be afraid of if Trump wins? He's been president, and none of the scary things they said he would do, happened. ...
Posted by: Rbastid at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (5+s9S)
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But he *tried* to do the scary things they feared and in some narrow cases, he succeeded.

Forget what they *say* they fear because they don't. What they actually fear is an outsider disrupting their game of power and pillage. Trump humiliated them on foreign policy, on economic and trade policy, on the border, on energy. He outperformed them and then gauchely gloated about it to his base. He had to be destroyed for that - not just for doing it, but for the gloating. The peasants mustn't get uppity. Any symbol of uppity peasants must be snuffed out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (Zp1WF)

363 Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (KiBMU)

364 I wonder how much of the hatred he gets from both parties is due to him not accepting the status quo, when it comes to which party owns which voter demographics.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Any reform threatens their lives, fortunes, power, and grifting. That is why the Uniparty hate reformers--always have, always will.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (QD2wq)

365 There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF

This has always annoyed the shit out of me.
Not just black voters any minority voters. Like when you hear so and so has to reach out to the (fill in name) community and address their needs. Bullshit. Everyone has the same needs, yiur skin color doesn’t change that.

Posted by: Montec at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (C3sl/)

366 Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Slave Turned Accomplice ‘Missing’ Following Release of Court Documents

The Slovakian-born pilot is accused of participating in the sexual abuse of young girls and procuring victims for Jeffrey Epstein.

I would check the backhoe rentals in the area and time of her disappearance.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (eYF7X)

367 The idea that some politician didn't "speak to the black community's needs" is nonsense. They have the same political needs as any white person - a good economy, low crime, etc. There are no "special" black needs that are different. They are just people. What different needs could they have from the gov't?

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at January 09, 2024 02:23 PM (ky+MF)

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The Republican Party (in theory, but sadly not in practice), as the defender of minorities against the tyranny of the majority as well as individual liberties should be the natural home for racial and other minorities (the individual himself being the smallest minority).

It should be an easy sell, but The Great Society recruitment of and purchasing of souls with taxpayer dollars in order to create a a massive Free Shit Army is inevitably leading to the destruction of the nation.

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (V9heG)

368 The GOP party as constituted by its donors, campaign types, and many candidates has to either adapt to new circumstances or die like the Whig and Federalist parties before them. Many of them are incapable of actually deciding to govern in a democracy and that is why I think the party as such dies. It could be as sudden as the demise of the Progressive Conservative party (now that's a perfect uniparty name) in Canada. Going from the PM office to oblivion quickly.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:37 PM (QD2wq)
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Yes. The GOP is going to die. I don't think it is salvageable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (Zp1WF)

369 363 Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.
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Lying under oath is a nice new charge.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (LVNnd)

370 >>I wonder how much of the hatred he gets from both parties is due to him not accepting the status quo, when it comes to which party owns which voter demographics.

When you look at the results of his Policy, he really was an enemy to BOTH parties. That's why the 'Deep State / UniParty' is so askeered of him.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (RVloE)

371 What's funny is, what would Dems actually be afraid of if Trump wins? He's been president, and none of the scary things they said he would do, happened. ...
Posted by: Rbastid at January 09, 2024 02:35 PM (5+s9S

They'reafraidhewilldowhatthey'replanningtodo. )

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (n2Iei)

372 Blacks are motivated by revenge. Getting even is their desire. Very few of them think about getting ahead. This is the problem. Flattery and endless pity is how blacks are herded.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Be very careful of overgeneralization. Treat people as individuals rather than groups.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (QD2wq)

373 Glen Beck had the owner of a number of restaurants on.

Basically, this man went into lots of detail with numbers on why a BLT sandwich will cost $16 at a restaurant. I've always realized the factors. I just never heard the numbers in a realistic way.

If you can find a podcast or transcript of this morning's radio broadcast for that segment, it's worth hearing.

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (RHGPo)

374
Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM

Pardon him, wipe the slate clean, expunge the record, then go after him again.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (3qE2b)

375 >>Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Slave Turned Accomplice ‘Missing’ Following Release of Court Documents

He'll be found hanging from a rope with 2 bullet holes in the back of his head.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:40 PM (RVloE)

376 Blacks have to decide if they're tired of being treated like retarded children who can be bought with baubles. The Dems won't stop treating them that way until it no longer pays.

--

(puts freedom and liberty on one side of table, puts two Oreo cookies on the other side)

Posted by: Nikki Haley supports Michigan's decision to do whatever it takes for good to triumph at January 09, 2024 02:40 PM (Im460)

377 374
Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM

Pardon him, wipe the slate clean, expunge the record, then go after him again.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 02:39 PM (3qE2b)

You can't. One and done.

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2024 02:40 PM (exHjb)

378 52 Tit for tat.
Posted by: publius,

Even trade? And, do tats come in pairs?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 09, 2024 01:42 PM (xOptO)
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"Total Recall" has entered the chat.

Posted by: Ciampino - A perky threesome at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (qfLjt)

379 Trump warns of 'BEDLAM' if prosecutions against him continue: Ex-president says he HAS to have immunity otherwise Obama would have been criminally prosecuted for drone strikes

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (RHGPo)

380 376 (puts freedom and liberty on one side of table, puts two Oreo cookies on the other side)
Posted by: Nikki Haley supports Michigan's decision to do whatever it takes for good to triumph at January 09, 2024 02:40 PM (Im460)

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Are the cookies also stale, because there were some donuts in the waiting room that they said were stale but would get replaced in ten minutes with fresh donuts.

I couldn't wait.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

381 It should be an easy sell, but The Great Society recruitment of and purchasing of souls with taxpayer dollars in order to create a a massive Free Shit Army is inevitably leading to the destruction of the nation.
Posted by: ShainS
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Well, the bucks are to be gone soon and the economics of deprivation are not going to play well with people dependent on it. Austerity for a generation or two is coming.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (QD2wq)

382 Rural counties in the same state as Detroit can no longer do anything to defend themselves from election cheating in Detroit. Prop 2 in '22 eliminated precinct counts in favor of "community" ballot counts run directly by the (thoroughly corrupt) SoS and every "community" has mandated ballot drop boxes.

Nothing changes in Michigan until the state gov't is utterly washed clean by some sort of black swan event.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (UfRqq)

383 363 Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.
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Maybe, depends on what the charge is. If it's inciting a riot, as a federal agent, I'm assuming there are different crimes available to use as a prosecutor.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (fs1hN)

384 Be very careful of overgeneralization. Treat people as individuals rather than groups
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That's how I operated most of my life. Then I discovered I was a chump. Fuck that.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (LVNnd)

385 >>>But Trump has a track record that can't be denied, now.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:30 PM (RVloE)
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I'll take a gander at that and see what I think.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump told the Christians I won't let you down at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (vPZ1C)

386 Oh...

Austin had a "procedure" to treat prostate cancer.
Which landed him in the ICU a week later for four days for "pain"

Translation: Austin had a radical prostatectomy for prostate cancer and developed a postop infection and sepsis which required 4 days of ICU care.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (2ovLw)

387 379 Trump warns of 'BEDLAM' if prosecutions against him continue: Ex-president says he HAS to have immunity otherwise Obama would have been criminally prosecuted for drone strikes
Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (RHGPo)

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I mean...he ain't wrong.

Out of all the criminal acts that presidents have committed over the past couple of decades, Obama ordering the drone strike of an American citizen without judicial approval is probably the worst thing a president has done.

That or Fast and Furious. I can't decide.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

388 Well, the bucks are to be gone soon and the economics of deprivation are not going to play well with people dependent on it. Austerity for a generation or two is coming.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (QD2wq)

Austerity for thee, but not for me...free shit people will still make out with free shit...only the working class gets screwed.

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (exHjb)

389 He'll be found hanging from a rope with 2 bullet holes in the back of his head.
Posted by: garrett
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She. Nadia something or other that Epstein took charge of at 15.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (QD2wq)

390 Nood. Blue constituent group on blue constituent group action.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (Wnv9h)

391 The Republican Party (in theory, but sadly not in practice), as the defender of minorities against the tyranny of the majority as well as individual liberties should be the natural home for racial and other minorities (the individual himself being the smallest minority).

It should be an easy sell, but The Great Society recruitment of and purchasing of souls with taxpayer dollars in order to create a a massive Free Shit Army is inevitably leading to the destruction of the nation.
Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 09, 2024 02:38 PM (V9heG)

Which is why, circling back to the point that started this, if there were honest vote counts, you'd no doubt find any number of voters who are voting for free stuff. Everyone wants free stuff, and one party keeps promising it.

But the vast majority of people who don't vote, don't do so because NOBODY IS TRYING TO REACH THEM.

Whatever that percentage is, the number of people who stay home, saying "why should I vote for any of these people," those are the ones who could be reached... but the Gope party has shown no interest in doing so.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (dGCAG)

392
343 292 282. Karen's are one issue voters. Abortion. Husbands can lose their jobs and their house, but Abortion is it for them
Posted by: Jonah at January 09, 2024 02:22 PM (gwrBY)

It's the single Karens that make abortion number one, I hear. F*ck without guilt or responsibility. Grow old lonely.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (hK9SP)

393 He'll be found hanging from a rope with 2 bullet holes in the back of his head.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:40 PM (RVloE)
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"Suicide." -- Medical examiner

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (7fElN)

394 Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Enrique Tarrio, Proud Boys, 22 years behind bars. Not even in DC on J6.

All of this makes me sick. I pray in the morning and at night for our world and country that good triumphs over evil.

Posted by: Cheri at January 09, 2024 02:42 PM (oiNtH)

395 383 363 Epps gets probation. The whole scam was done to prevent him from real prosecution under a next admin, double-jeopardy and all.
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Maybe, depends on what the charge is. If it's inciting a riot, as a federal agent, I'm assuming there are different crimes available to use as a prosecutor.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 09, 2024 02:41 PM (fs1hN)

I'm sure part of the plea deal is sealed and/or redacted. It will be air tight...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2024 02:43 PM (exHjb)

396
You can't. One and done.

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2024 02:40 PM

That brings up a funny point. Here in Pennsylvania if you're caught DUI you can go through a special program which costs a shit load of money. You take some classes, pay a lot of money for them, and the claim is your record is expunged. Driving record pure, insurance costs drop.

Except they know you did it before if you do it again.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 09, 2024 02:44 PM (3qE2b)

397 >>I'll take a gander at that and see what I think.

Look at the Economic data.

Then, look at what he did for the HBCs. Add in his Prison Reform Bill...lot more examples of things he did that should appeal directly to any sensible voting population.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 02:44 PM (RVloE)

398 I will laugh long and hard if Fani Willis gets disbarred and prosecuted. Probably won't happen, but that would be karma on steroids if it did.

Posted by: Ann at January 09, 2024 02:45 PM (4neFu)

399 This has always annoyed the shit out of me.
Not just black voters any minority voters. Like when you hear so and so has to reach out to the (fill in name) community and address their needs. Bullshit. Everyone has the same needs, yiur skin color doesn’t change that.

Then how do you explain black-run schools, where virtually no education occurs?

How do you explain defending someone guilty of plagiarism just because of her skin color?

How do you explain demanding lower standards for your group in everything they do?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:45 PM (CsUN+)

400 The GOP as a party will die, but the Republicans in office will find a home; either with the Democrats (likely) or under some other bullshit banner to con the rubes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2024 02:46 PM (Q4IgG)

401 New one: bums.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2024 02:47 PM (CsUN+)

402 Joe Mannix nails it:
1. Project your malice onto a popular opponent
2. Accuse the popular opponent as being guilty of bad things you don't like
3. Immediately group all supporters - even casual supporters or just mere non-detractors - in with the popular opponent
4. Pursue collective punishment

I'll just add:
5. Piously claim that you can only fail unjustly - that if your efforts are thwarted, it is not because others were right, but because they are even more deserving of punishment than you imagined!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 09, 2024 02:47 PM (8Ta2Y)

403 Only Marxists can figure out how to double charges after the fact, and every Marxists judge will stop a attempt on Epps.

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2024 02:48 PM (fwDg9)

404 56 >>"I imagine that he thought that he would enter like Mussolini being carried on the shoulders of his supporters and enter the Capitol," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md.,

Funny. Coming from the Party that Deified Il Duche.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2024 01:43 PM (RVloE)
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It was monumental for Il Duce, but Trump would have been an inglorious copycat ---- DNC
Of note, Mussolini came to power in 1922, a long while before WW2, before the Spanish Civil War even, in which Italy helped, with Germany, on the side of Franco and against Communists (another flavor of Socialism).

Posted by: Ciampino - No H in Duce at January 09, 2024 02:51 PM (qfLjt)

405 Austerity for thee, but not for me...free shit people will still make out with free shit...only the working class gets screwed.
Posted by: Nova Local

Nope, they won't. Elites might avoid it somewhat but the whole general population is going to suffer a massive hit to lifestyle. Simply put, the massive debt of the fedgov is going to require either formally repudiating it, inflating it away, or severe massive spending cuts to sacred cows like Defense, social security, welfare, etc.

Right now the elites have chosen to inflate it away which reduces the value of the dollars spent on programs, imposes costs on savers and investors, but keeps widespread civil unrest quelled for now.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2024 02:56 PM (QD2wq)

406 LESS TALK...just DO IT...NOW!!!!

Posted by: Kauf at January 09, 2024 03:30 PM (K99w4)

407 Clyburn bearing false witness. He is godless.

Posted by: Coki at January 09, 2024 03:38 PM (ZTYx2)

408 To New York and Colorado Go out in the Garden and Eat Worms

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 09, 2024 04:31 PM (wGqjj)

409 The GOP is doing it wrongly. If they can deem Trump guilty of insurrection without the bother of charges, nor trial, nor conviction...then the GOP can equally deem Biden to have been impeached and removed from office -- also without the bother of charges, nor trial, nor conviction.

Hey, we're just trying to play by their rules.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at January 09, 2024 04:35 PM (TOe+Q)

410 This is genius. If the Democrats and Republicans in each state decide that only the presidential candidate favored by that state's government may appear on the ballot, then we will have returned to a Republic where the president is chosen by the states. That's what the Founders originally envisioned.

Posted by: Restore the Republic at January 09, 2024 04:58 PM (kIumc)

411 Mooch is going to enter the race. I've been saying it for two years, even though a lot of people say she's too lazy, etc. No way Barry is going to let Harris step up when Joe steps down. 2024 will be declared "historic".

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