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Vivek Ramaswamey Demolishes Woke Fake "Journalist" Who Demands Not Only That He Condemn "White Supremacy," But Do So Using the Exact Catechism She Dictates to Him
A guy I used to listen to, Ya Boi Zach, is fond of repeating a stat he says he got from the FBI. I'm unable to track it down, so I'll just repeat his claim: He said the FBI estimates there are 15,000 active white supremacists in the United State, a nation of 330 million people.
That's about the attendance of four or five WNBA games. And yet the left claims that this cadre of 15,000 nose-picking meth-heads is an imminent threat to take over the United States. To get around this, the left and the media (but I repeat myself) use a soft-shoe shuffle to change the definition of "white supremacy:" While selling you on the idea that the "white supremacists" they're speaking of are Klan members plotting terrorist attacks, the real definition of "white supremacy" they employ to get those numbers up is this: Anyone who is white, or who is "adjacent to white" and therefore benefits from "white privilege," and who does not violently oppose this system of "white supremacy" by joining "anti-fascist" and "anti-racist" groups to smash the whole "white supremacist" superstructure that rules our society, is a "white supremacist." So in other words, anyone who's not a zealous activist for the woke racist identitarian left is a white supremacist. All normies are definitionally "white supremacists" because they are not hardcore violent woke activists, including the minority normies, who are supporting "white supremacy" by not actively opposing it. The same media and Democrat Party (but I repeat myself) which relentlessly propagandizes this obvious crank horseshit simultaneously hypes of any attack on minorities -- transgenders, Asians, Jews -- as evidence of "white supremacy," while hiding the fact that most of these attacks are committed by blacks. More of that "multiracial white supremacy," I guess. A fake "journalist" at CNN demanded that Vivek denounce this Republic-Menacing Cadre of 15,000 people. He humiliated her and the whole corrupt apparatus of totalitarian propagandistic mind control of the left.On Wednesday, a Washington Post reporter ridiculously asked him to "condemn white supremacy and white nationalism" and was utterly destroyed as a result. "I'm not -- I'm not going to recite some catechism for you," Ramaswamy began. "I'm against vicious racial discrimination in this country. So I'm not pledging allegiance to your new religion of modern wokeism which absolutely fits the test." "I'm not going to bend the knee to your religion. I'm sorry, I'm not asking you to bend the knee to mine and I'm not going to bend the knee to yours. But do I condemn vicious racial discrimination? Yes, I do. Am I going to play your silly game of 'Gotcha'? No, I'm not. And frankly, this is why people have lost trust [in the media]." Ramaswamy continued, "And I know you're going to go print the headline tomorrow. I already know this, we already know how your game works. 'Vivek Ramaswamy Refuses to Condemn Racism,' because you asked a stupid question. The reality is, I condemn vicious racial discrimination in this country, but the kind of vicious and systematic racism we see today is discrimination on the basis of race in a very different direction." "You want to know what the best way is to end discrimination on the basis of race?" Vivek asked. "Stop discriminating on the basis of race. Do that, and we're going to move this country forward, and I don't care whether you're black or white or brown or anything in between. That's how we're going to unite this country."I invite politicians to find the source of Zack's "15,000 white supremacists" claim and use this statistic in their answers: "Yes, I fully condemn all 15,000 active white supremacists, according to FBI statistics, who pose a threat of taking over this entire country of 330 million people. Next question. Do you have any other microscopically small non-movements you're demanding I condemn? Shall I condemn model railroad enthusiasts who refuse to use any of the standard scales for philosophical reason? Shall I condemn people whose favorite fruit is the lemon?"
Advertisement Ramaswamy then went on to blast the media for intentionally using race to divide our nation. "You people have been responsible for dividing this country to a breaking point, creating a projection of national division. I meet people from the South Side of Chicago to meetings like this one -- of every shade of melanin [...] man to woman, doesn't make a difference -- who are hungry for reviving unity in this country. And you, with your catechism that you try to get politicians to -- whatever fake headline you're going to print on the basis of this conversation tomorrow -- that's what's dividing this country to a breaking point. Shame on you. Look people in the eye and tell them what you've actually failed to tell them for the last five years. Own the accountability for your own failures as the media -- that's how we rebuild trust in this country. And until then, I don't have a lot of patience to play the games."
WAPO reporter doubles down: You didn’t say that you condemn white supremacy though.
— Chris Carapezza (@Chris_Carapezza) January 3, 2024
She immediately regrets it.@VivekGRamaswamy isn’t going to play the game. pic.twitter.com/2NHshriVZa
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Journalists are like firefighters and soldiers, but braver.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO)
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>>>1 Journalists are like firefighters and soldiers, but braver.
Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
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"I'm not -- I'm not going to recite some catechism for you," Ramaswamy began. "I'm against vicious racial discrimination in this country. So I'm not pledging allegiance to your new religion of modern wokeism which absolutely fits the test."
"I'm not going to bend the knee to your religion. I'm sorry, I'm not asking you to bend the knee to mine and I'm not going to bend the knee to yours. But do I condemn vicious racial discrimination? Yes, I do. Am I going to play your silly game of 'Gotcha'? No, I'm not. And frankly, this is why people have lost trust [in the media]."
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Equating wokeism to a religion is the right way.
"I'm not going to bend the knee to your religion. I'm sorry, I'm not asking you to bend the knee to mine and I'm not going to bend the knee to yours. But do I condemn vicious racial discrimination? Yes, I do. Am I going to play your silly game of 'Gotcha'? No, I'm not. And frankly, this is why people have lost trust [in the media]."
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Equating wokeism to a religion is the right way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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So basically the number of illegals coming across the notional border on an average weekend.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (xaNfJ)
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At least 20% of the population is made up of non-citizens. I think that is a bigger problem than white supremacy.
Posted by: huerfano at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (Q4KYm)
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There are more hardcore Hamas and Hezbollah supporters in the United States than "white supremacists".
Considerably more.
Considerably more.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (YAtuc)
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"You want to know what the best way is to end discrimination on the basis of race?" Vivek asked. "Stop discriminating on the basis of race. Do that, and we're going to move this country forward, and I don't care whether you're black or white or brown or anything in between. That's how we're going to unite this country."
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Ramaswamy paraphrases noted racialist John Roberts.
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Ramaswamy paraphrases noted racialist John Roberts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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She then went and did exactly what Vivek said she'd do, and made a bunch of Twitter posts about him being for white supremacy.
These liberal bloggers don't care, they know anyone stupid enough to believe them, won't bother to look for alternate sources that always prove them wrong.
These liberal bloggers don't care, they know anyone stupid enough to believe them, won't bother to look for alternate sources that always prove them wrong.
Posted by: Rbastid at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (OAO86)
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2 >>>1 Journalists are like firefighters and soldiers, but braver.
Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
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Woah, there. What about teachers and nurses, bub?
Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
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Woah, there. What about teachers and nurses, bub?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)
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I like Vivek, I just wish he didnt have a squirrely background.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (VTu1l)
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Did he tell her to Ramasalami?
Posted by: wth at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (v0R5T)
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He did well on that. very well.
He also is the only big public figure who has ever mentioned (to my knowledge - but I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of utterances of public figures) the thing I've been pounding the table about for years: that the "born this way" basis of the gay-rights-as-civil-rights movement is incompatible with contemporary sex theory (gender fluidity, tranny shit, etc.).
I don't trust him because I think he might be a cipher a lot like Obama (come from nowhere and say all the right things with little history to back it up), but much of what he says impresses me.
He also is the only big public figure who has ever mentioned (to my knowledge - but I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of utterances of public figures) the thing I've been pounding the table about for years: that the "born this way" basis of the gay-rights-as-civil-rights movement is incompatible with contemporary sex theory (gender fluidity, tranny shit, etc.).
I don't trust him because I think he might be a cipher a lot like Obama (come from nowhere and say all the right things with little history to back it up), but much of what he says impresses me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:46 PM (WkNQM)
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Not a backer of Vivek yet, but like what he is doing
Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2024 01:46 PM (fwDg9)
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Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
this is how we get to the Cronenberg World, ace.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
this is how we get to the Cronenberg World, ace.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 01:47 PM (D7oie)
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12 I don't trust him because I think he might be a cipher a lot like Obama (come from nowhere and say all the right things with little history to back it up), but much of what he says impresses me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:46 PM (WkNQM)
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I look forward to him following the Allen West playbook of being the face of a series of Super PACs before losing a winnable, smaller race because everyone's forgotten he exists and doesn't trust him anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:46 PM (WkNQM)
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I look forward to him following the Allen West playbook of being the face of a series of Super PACs before losing a winnable, smaller race because everyone's forgotten he exists and doesn't trust him anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)
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I firmly believe the way to handle aggressive media airheads firing gotcha questions is with equal aggressiveness and confidence that the reporters are stupid with nothing in their heads than a tiny handful of talking points.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
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It ain't warm out thar.
Posted by: JT at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (T4tVD)
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Well put, Ace.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (MvF+J)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (T4tVD)
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ssssshhhhhh. Be wery wery quiet; I'm a white supremacist. Hahahahaha.
Posted by: Elmer Bubba Fudd, Grand Cyclops at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (gmo/4)
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>>>1 Journalists are like firefighters and soldiers, but braver.
Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
They're the real heroes.
Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
They're the real heroes.
Posted by: Teachers at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (aD39U)
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Sometimes the only way to win is not to play.
Other times, you have to change the rules and play a different game entirely.
And then sometimes you have to punch someone in the face (rhetorically speaking.)
Other times, you have to change the rules and play a different game entirely.
And then sometimes you have to punch someone in the face (rhetorically speaking.)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (7fElN)
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Vivek, doing the job that Ron DeSantis didn't want to do.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (HgGFf)
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16 I firmly believe the way to handle aggressive media airheads firing gotcha questions is with equal aggressiveness and confidence that the reporters are stupid with nothing in their heads than a tiny handful of talking points.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
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Newt Gingrich showed the way in 2012, and pretty much no prominent Republican followed.
Because the consultant class doesn't like that.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
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Newt Gingrich showed the way in 2012, and pretty much no prominent Republican followed.
Because the consultant class doesn't like that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
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I don't necessarily want Vivek to be the President of the United States, but watching him absolutely teabag smug lefties sure is satisfying.
Posted by: ballistic at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (oqH4h)
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This Ramsmarmy guy should be Speaker.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (eYF7X)
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but much of what he says impresses me.
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He's an excellent speaker, but his gift of gab has makes him more akin to a salesman, not a guy who actually has a verified history of practicing what he preaches
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He's an excellent speaker, but his gift of gab has makes him more akin to a salesman, not a guy who actually has a verified history of practicing what he preaches
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (VTu1l)
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15,000 ain't no nba game; that's a wnba final....
Posted by: poconohound at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (ayKvo)
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Good for Vivek, he's an American anomaly.
I prefer Pierre Poilievre's demolishment of the Canadian media. He's more dispassionate, incisive and brutal. We could take lessons.
I prefer Pierre Poilievre's demolishment of the Canadian media. He's more dispassionate, incisive and brutal. We could take lessons.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (v6srk)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (9yWhg)
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He is running for vice president and for the future. Everybody else is stop Trump now at all costs.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (HgGFf)
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Woah, there. What about teachers and nurses, bub?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)
The most horrific movie I couldn't make through was The Event Horizon. That is what taking all the Nurses and Teachers as the next evolution of the Human race would bring us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)
The most horrific movie I couldn't make through was The Event Horizon. That is what taking all the Nurses and Teachers as the next evolution of the Human race would bring us.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (D7oie)
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The only reason we hear anything about "White Supremacy" is the pejorative "racist" got overused and lost it's cachet and political usefulness.
After eight years, White Supremacy as a term has nearly overstayed its welcome too, so expect that to change in one or two election cycles.
After eight years, White Supremacy as a term has nearly overstayed its welcome too, so expect that to change in one or two election cycles.
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (d2R3c)
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And a majority of those alleged confirmed 15,000 white supremacists are also Jew haters that support Hamas just like the Left.
Posted by: Joe Paterno at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (MNhXM)
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Ramaswamy paraphrases noted racialist John Roberts.
Was that Roberts? I thought it was Scalia. Whichever it was, he wasn't wrong.
Was that Roberts? I thought it was Scalia. Whichever it was, he wasn't wrong.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (sNc8Y)
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I'm unaware of a reporter who was able to beat a reasonably well informed consensus in a debate.
I am aware of a number of reporters getting humiliated.
I am aware of a number of reporters getting humiliated.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (AN/rm)
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If you check the reporter's story, Vivek was dead on. That's what she *did* report. That he "wouldn't" straight up condemn White Supremacy.
Here's where I am about white supremacy. It's a bias and an overgeneralization. I try *not* to make mental mistakes in my thinking. Thus it's pretty deep in the errors that I try not to make. It's also, pretty morally repugnant.
However, people asking that question sound like they kind of want to make the opinion illegal. I have 0 respect for that opinion as I do for political scheme of fascism, but I do not want to see them made illegal.
Here's where I am about white supremacy. It's a bias and an overgeneralization. I try *not* to make mental mistakes in my thinking. Thus it's pretty deep in the errors that I try not to make. It's also, pretty morally repugnant.
However, people asking that question sound like they kind of want to make the opinion illegal. I have 0 respect for that opinion as I do for political scheme of fascism, but I do not want to see them made illegal.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (krQz2)
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If anything, Vivek, and DeSantis for that matter, shows how to defeat the Left's fallacies. With the truth and logical arguments.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (9NZQU)
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Off questionably disgraced sock
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (MNhXM)
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So in other words, anyone who's not a zealous activist for the woke racist identiarian left is a white supremacist. All normies are definitionally "white supremacists" because they are not hardcore violent woke activists, including the minority normies, who are supporting "white supremacy" by not actively opposing it.
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They developed and refined this playbook with the women.
Any woman who wasn't down with the radical feminist agenda was accused of having "internalized misogyny." They were "psychologically colonized" by the patriarchy. Any non-feminist - or, G-d forbid, anti-feminist - woman was an unwitting tool that was seduced by the patriarchy and so needed to be reprogrammed into feminist liberty. She didn't agree with the feminist ideology, but only because she was a comprehensive victim of the patriarchy.
It's a neat trick, as it is a way to claim those don't support you - or even directly oppose you - as still being under your umbrella and to deflect questions or study of variance within the population into an identity framework so that the "solutions" to the "problem" will conform with the identity framework.
"Internalized White Supremacy" is the same play.
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They developed and refined this playbook with the women.
Any woman who wasn't down with the radical feminist agenda was accused of having "internalized misogyny." They were "psychologically colonized" by the patriarchy. Any non-feminist - or, G-d forbid, anti-feminist - woman was an unwitting tool that was seduced by the patriarchy and so needed to be reprogrammed into feminist liberty. She didn't agree with the feminist ideology, but only because she was a comprehensive victim of the patriarchy.
It's a neat trick, as it is a way to claim those don't support you - or even directly oppose you - as still being under your umbrella and to deflect questions or study of variance within the population into an identity framework so that the "solutions" to the "problem" will conform with the identity framework.
"Internalized White Supremacy" is the same play.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: logprof at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (SaN/x)
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>>>23 Vivek, doing the job that Ron DeSantis didn't want to do.
what's Trump doing about it, Cultist, besides selling his supporters on the idea of Nikki Haley for vice president?
Trump talks and does nothing. Vivek talks and does nothing
DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
what's Trump doing about it, Cultist, besides selling his supporters on the idea of Nikki Haley for vice president?
Trump talks and does nothing. Vivek talks and does nothing
DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)
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I like the supreme pizza.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (63Dwl)
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DM has photo of Perry IA school shooter.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (MvF+J)
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I don't think he could be President but he'd be a perfect press secretary.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
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16 I firmly believe the way to handle aggressive media airheads firing gotcha questions is with equal aggressiveness and confidence that the reporters are stupid with nothing in their heads than a tiny handful of talking points.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
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Well it definitely beats the strategy that 99% of the GOP has used for the last 40 years, which is the old "Suck the media's fat, sweaty dick until maybe one day they keep their promise of not ejaculating in my mouth."
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
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Well it definitely beats the strategy that 99% of the GOP has used for the last 40 years, which is the old "Suck the media's fat, sweaty dick until maybe one day they keep their promise of not ejaculating in my mouth."
Posted by: ballistic at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (oqH4h)
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You don't have to be White to be a White Supremacist just like you don't need female plumbing and/or genitalia to be a woman.
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (d2R3c)
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Shall I condemn model railroad enthusiasts who refuse to use any of the standard scales for philosophical reason?
H0 is an abomination and can burn in hell you damn fascists and this is the hill I will die on
H0 is an abomination and can burn in hell you damn fascists and this is the hill I will die on
Posted by: Choo Choo Enthusiast at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (AR07F)
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Vivek still raps so that’s a big strike against him for me😀
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (MNhXM)
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Newt Gingrich showed the way in 2012, and pretty much no prominent Republican followed.
Because the consultant class doesn't like that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
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Fred Thompson saying "no" at the debate was a great example of responding correctly too (to a "raise your hand if you support XXX question. I forget what it was, maybe ending abortion or something.) He wasn't answering the question, he was refusing to be pushed into the corner like that.
I still miss Fred.
Because the consultant class doesn't like that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
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Fred Thompson saying "no" at the debate was a great example of responding correctly too (to a "raise your hand if you support XXX question. I forget what it was, maybe ending abortion or something.) He wasn't answering the question, he was refusing to be pushed into the corner like that.
I still miss Fred.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (z/ifB)
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I've internalized my externalities.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (63Dwl)
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Any R who can't figure out that this is how to respond to this bullshit really needs to have a seat.
Don't get defensive - counter-accuse and redirect.
Don't get defensive - counter-accuse and redirect.
Posted by: McLurkerson at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (wNDOJ)
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Everybody else is stop Trump now at all costs.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (HgGFf)
They can't stop him. It's organically impossible. All they can do is hope he goes to jail or dies. And they haven't figured out that this doesn't redound to their benefit.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (HgGFf)
They can't stop him. It's organically impossible. All they can do is hope he goes to jail or dies. And they haven't figured out that this doesn't redound to their benefit.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (v6srk)
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I prefer Pierre Poilievre's demolishment of the Canadian media. He's more dispassionate, incisive and brutal. We could take lessons.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (v6srk)
Let the shoemaker stick to his last, as each craftsman knows his own craft the best.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (v6srk)
Let the shoemaker stick to his last, as each craftsman knows his own craft the best.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: The Fruit, Don Lemon at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (Angsy)
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"You want to know what the best way is to end discrimination on the basis of race?" Vivek asked. "Stop discriminating on the basis of race.
I've seen that before a long while ago but I don't remember who said it.
I've seen that before a long while ago but I don't remember who said it.
Posted by: Ciampino - no Gaying here please. at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (63Dwl)
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This is Maos Red Guard behavior. Denounce something and then admit your sins and be punished. Stand up to the little shits and they're so ignorant they wilt
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (30oly)
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Fred Thompson saying "no" at the debate was a great example of responding correctly too (to a "raise your hand if you support XXX question. I forget what it was, maybe ending abortion or something.) He wasn't answering the question, he was refusing to be pushed into the corner like that.
I still miss Fred.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (z/ifB)
He never took a shit without a plan.
I still miss Fred.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (z/ifB)
He never took a shit without a plan.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (aD39U)
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Reporters are uninformed, lazy and stupid. Remember that.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (AN/rm)
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Shall I condemn model railroad enthusiasts who refuse to use any of the standard scales for philosophical reason?
H0 is an abomination and can burn in hell you damn fascists and this is the hill I will die on
Posted by: Choo Choo Enthusiast at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (AR07F
Just watched The Station Agent for the first time last night. Pretty good movie. Train enthusiasts are a weird breed.
H0 is an abomination and can burn in hell you damn fascists and this is the hill I will die on
Posted by: Choo Choo Enthusiast at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (AR07F
Just watched The Station Agent for the first time last night. Pretty good movie. Train enthusiasts are a weird breed.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (MNhXM)
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Just finished watching an Alex Jones interview with Vivek which is really good. I'll put a link in a bit. It's about 25 minutes long but shows how the 3d chess of the left is playing out and how 'America First' should be our movement.
After Trump, sorry but Vivek is my guy. If they had any dirt on him we'd be hearing by now.
Just finished watching an Alex Jones interview with Vivek which is really good. I'll put a link in a bit. It's about 25 minutes long but shows how the 3d chess of the left is playing out and how 'America First' should be our movement.
After Trump, sorry but Vivek is my guy. If they had any dirt on him we'd be hearing by now.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
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Let the shoemaker stick to his last, as each craftsman knows his own craft the best.
Posted by: Kindltot
Closer to the heart.
Let the shoemaker stick to his last, as each craftsman knows his own craft the best.
Posted by: Kindltot
Closer to the heart.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (63Dwl)
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62 After Trump, sorry but Vivek is my guy. If they had any dirt on him we'd be hearing by now.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
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This isn't how October surprises work.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
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This isn't how October surprises work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (GBKbO)
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"He said the FBI estimates there are 15,000 active white supremacists in the United State, a nation of 330 million people."
15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
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DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump
He has done virtually none of that, but ran a traditional run of the mill 2008-type campaign that makes him appear to be just another typical politician
Had he talked and acted like Vivek from the beginning I bet he would be neck and neck with Trump or even leading
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DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump
He has done virtually none of that, but ran a traditional run of the mill 2008-type campaign that makes him appear to be just another typical politician
Had he talked and acted like Vivek from the beginning I bet he would be neck and neck with Trump or even leading
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (VTu1l)
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This is finally a topic where I can bring this unfortunate fact up.
1. Moderns would say that forced creedal statements are bad.
2. I believe in the Holocaust is a creedal statement.
I remember getting into a big discussion on this board about how much *disbelief* or *ignorance* of the Holocaust could be tolerated, by a fellow Holocaust believer.
However, the moderns have to decide: are forced creedal statements a good thing or a bad thing--or a thing where we have to weigh the good with that bad?
That's bad, because now we are talking about an array of opinions about what are the particular criteria for a forced creedal statement.
When it's just easier denying we make any.
1. Moderns would say that forced creedal statements are bad.
2. I believe in the Holocaust is a creedal statement.
I remember getting into a big discussion on this board about how much *disbelief* or *ignorance* of the Holocaust could be tolerated, by a fellow Holocaust believer.
However, the moderns have to decide: are forced creedal statements a good thing or a bad thing--or a thing where we have to weigh the good with that bad?
That's bad, because now we are talking about an array of opinions about what are the particular criteria for a forced creedal statement.
When it's just easier denying we make any.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (krQz2)
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I saw 15,000 nose-picking meth-heads open for The Clash in London at the Palladium in 87" was awesome..
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (WPHuI)
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15,000 is more like a dozen WNBA Games.
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (+JCjY)
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>>>Just watched The Station Agent for the first time last night. Pretty good movie. Train enthusiasts are a weird breed.
i would like to be a Train Buff
i would like to be a Train Buff
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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I like everything I've heard from Vivek. Don't trust him, but I have to balance that objection against my distrust of all the fuckers.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (RSbhh)
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (X4yCj)
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There could be some very useful position other than President for Vivek, and not so sure VP is a great position.
Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (fwDg9)
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70 >>>Just watched The Station Agent for the first time last night. Pretty good movie. Train enthusiasts are a weird breed.
i would like to be a Train Buff
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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Gomez Addams had an affinity for trains.
i would like to be a Train Buff
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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Gomez Addams had an affinity for trains.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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"She then went and did exactly what Vivek said she'd do, and made a bunch of Twitter posts about him being for white supremacy."
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Who is she? I want to go point and laugh.
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Who is she? I want to go point and laugh.
Posted by: McLurkerson at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (wNDOJ)
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30 What state is Vivek from?
And is it pronounced "VEE-vek" or "vee-VEHK?"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (9yWhg)
VEE-vek
Like Levi-OH-sa...see?!?!
And is it pronounced "VEE-vek" or "vee-VEHK?"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (9yWhg)
VEE-vek
Like Levi-OH-sa...see?!?!
Posted by: Hermione Granger at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (TTAGa)
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I wanted HO but I always got 027.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (MvF+J)
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After Trump, sorry but Vivek is my guy. If they had any dirt on him we'd be hearing by now.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
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You are aware that the grab 'em by the p tape is evergreen for a public with the memory of a gnat?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
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You are aware that the grab 'em by the p tape is evergreen for a public with the memory of a gnat?
Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (z/ifB)
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This is Maos Red Guard behavior. Denounce something and then admit your sins and be punished. Stand up to the little shits and they're so ignorant they wilt
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (30oly)
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What is now commonly referred to as "woke" is essentially Maoist in its operation (the philosophy differs and its evolution was quite different, but the manifestation of power is very close). At the end of the day, it turns out that it was Mao - not Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Mussolini, Kim Il Sung or Hugo Chavez - who conquered the west.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (30oly)
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What is now commonly referred to as "woke" is essentially Maoist in its operation (the philosophy differs and its evolution was quite different, but the manifestation of power is very close). At the end of the day, it turns out that it was Mao - not Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Mussolini, Kim Il Sung or Hugo Chavez - who conquered the west.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (WkNQM)
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72 Daily Mail.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (MvF+J)
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There could be some very useful position other than President for Vivek, and not so sure VP is a great position.
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I would put him in charge of the FDA. He has a solid history of making pharma brands go bankrupt
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I would put him in charge of the FDA. He has a solid history of making pharma brands go bankrupt
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (VTu1l)
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15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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A large portion of them are probably incarcerated and have banded together in prison as a defensive measure against the racism they face from other segregated gangs.
By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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A large portion of them are probably incarcerated and have banded together in prison as a defensive measure against the racism they face from other segregated gangs.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (3qE2b)
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Vivek, doing the job that Ron DeSantis didn't want to do.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it
Ooooh, sick burn, dude.
*rolls eyes*
Posted by: Ironic isn't it
Ooooh, sick burn, dude.
*rolls eyes*
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (CsUN+)
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What about the Buffalo ?
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (RHGPo)
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80 Yes, this.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (MvF+J)
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i would like to be a Train Buff
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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I would like a buff train!
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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I would like a buff train!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (WkNQM)
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We think we do, but we don't hate the media nearly enough
Posted by: weew at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (/uwTS)
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Vivek says his name is pronounced Vuh-VAKE (as in cake)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (63Dwl)
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The best examples of an American politician humiliating the media -- snippets only, as our politician's don't have the awareness or bloodthirsty stamina to do more -- have been Newt Gingrich. He did this once at the 2008 Republican Convention with a CNN reporter over Sarah Palin, and again at the 2012 South Carolina primary debate with Scott Pelley of CBS. That we can count these moments on one hand is sad.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (v6srk)
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After Trump, sorry but Vivek is my guy. If they had any dirt on him we'd be hearing by now.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
Unless he's a plant........
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 01:54 PM (3qE2b)
Unless he's a plant........
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (d2R3c)
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM (gmo/4)
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"You want to know what the best way is to end discrimination on the basis of race?" Vivek asked. "Stop discriminating on the basis of race.
I've seen that before a long while ago but I don't remember who said it.
CJ Roberts
I've seen that before a long while ago but I don't remember who said it.
CJ Roberts
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 01:59 PM (CsUN+)
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Vivek for Trump press secretary.
Posted by: norrin radd at January 04, 2024 01:59 PM (dN+2t)
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Ramaswamy then went on to blast the media for intentionally using race to divide our nation.
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There will always be race hustlers.
I have my doubts a free mulitracial republic can last for any length of time before devolving into tribalism due to race hustling.
I think America may have had a sweet spot in the 80s and 90s after integration but even then there were race riots.
I assume there are historical examples of a stable multi-racial free society, maybe Atlantis?
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There will always be race hustlers.
I have my doubts a free mulitracial republic can last for any length of time before devolving into tribalism due to race hustling.
I think America may have had a sweet spot in the 80s and 90s after integration but even then there were race riots.
I assume there are historical examples of a stable multi-racial free society, maybe Atlantis?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 01:59 PM (cMXNt)
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Just got back from the gym. What did I miss?
Posted by: Jimmy Carter
Some guy in a black robe and hood came by. Had a scythe he wanted to give you. We told him to talk to the rabbit.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter
Some guy in a black robe and hood came by. Had a scythe he wanted to give you. We told him to talk to the rabbit.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (9yWhg)
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But I heard that white supremacy is the 559th most important topic to voters!
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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And is it pronounced "VEE-vek" or "vee-VEHK?"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (9yWhg)
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vi-VAKE. Like cake.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (9yWhg)
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vi-VAKE. Like cake.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (krQz2)
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Had he talked and acted like Vivek from the beginning I bet he would be neck and neck with Trump or even leading
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (VTu1l)
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He does when presented the opportunity. But is playing the only game he can play. Trump is so far ahead, and having been made the victim by the crazy antics of the left, you really just need to stay in the shadows in case Trump hits a real roadblock.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (VTu1l)
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He does when presented the opportunity. But is playing the only game he can play. Trump is so far ahead, and having been made the victim by the crazy antics of the left, you really just need to stay in the shadows in case Trump hits a real roadblock.
Posted by: Black JEM at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GZYu7)
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DEI is coming to an end at my workplace. The head of our DEI office was gently let go at the beginning of December. It was phrased as a career empowering move. She will take some time off, attend as a participant in the Advanced Management Program at Harvard, basically crash course business school for people are too "elite" to go to regular school and does not give a degree only a certificate. I'm pretty sure she got in as a favor... anyway she will be returning to the company some time in the next year to a yet to be determined leadership role...no new head of DEI has been named. And any mention of a new leader was not mentioned.
Posted by: Mishdog at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (eLSbI)
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98 But I heard that white supremacy is the 559th most important topic to voters!
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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It will explain why the dead come to vote in Philly.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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It will explain why the dead come to vote in Philly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump
He has done virtually none of that, but ran a traditional run of the mill 2008-type campaign that makes him appear to be just another typical politician
Had he talked and acted like Vivek from the beginning I bet he would be neck and neck with Trump or even leading
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (VTu1l)
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DeSantis is the Scott Walker of 2024.
The man had all the street cred of a real reformer. So the first thing he does is climb in bed with the Big Money, don't rock the boat Establishment Donors. Worse, he starts listening to their advice!
These are thd same people that ran Jeb Bush's half billion dollar failure.
He has done virtually none of that, but ran a traditional run of the mill 2008-type campaign that makes him appear to be just another typical politician
Had he talked and acted like Vivek from the beginning I bet he would be neck and neck with Trump or even leading
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (VTu1l)
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DeSantis is the Scott Walker of 2024.
The man had all the street cred of a real reformer. So the first thing he does is climb in bed with the Big Money, don't rock the boat Establishment Donors. Worse, he starts listening to their advice!
These are thd same people that ran Jeb Bush's half billion dollar failure.
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (vhAjI)
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But I heard that white supremacy is the 559th most important topic to voters!
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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That's why DC wants a new people.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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That's why DC wants a new people.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (eYF7X)
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"DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump"
I keep hearing illogical garbage like this. As if the tenets of freedom and liberty are somehow only Trump qualities. It's absolute bullshit and I'm tired of it. If there is ever to be a successor to Trump, whether he wins or not, they will need to be disconnected from the personality of Trump. Provided they adhere to the core conservative values and are committed to The Bill of Rights, I'm all for that. This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption. There are others who are worthy, and they don't need to kiss the ring of the self anointed. God-king.
I keep hearing illogical garbage like this. As if the tenets of freedom and liberty are somehow only Trump qualities. It's absolute bullshit and I'm tired of it. If there is ever to be a successor to Trump, whether he wins or not, they will need to be disconnected from the personality of Trump. Provided they adhere to the core conservative values and are committed to The Bill of Rights, I'm all for that. This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption. There are others who are worthy, and they don't need to kiss the ring of the self anointed. God-king.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (9NZQU)
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The problem with Vivek is the same with Kari Lake. He's too combative and argumentative. We might like that style, but most people -- including even those who otherwise agree with him on the issues -- don't. Not at all. Vivek could have said exactly what he said but with a smile and less aggressively.
It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
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These are thd same people that ran Jeb Bush's half billion dollar failure.
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (vhAjI)
Obligatory:
Please clap
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (vhAjI)
Obligatory:
Please clap
Posted by: Jeb at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (TTAGa)
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I admire anyone who can extemporaneously argue a point with such clarity and directness. I suck at responding to any kind of criticism, especially when it is unfounded. I am the epitome of "man I should have said this" minutes or hours afterward.
Just give me some time to write a response to your idiocy and I'll e-mail it to you. You'll be devastated.
Just give me some time to write a response to your idiocy and I'll e-mail it to you. You'll be devastated.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Aspiring Codger at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (xPJvm)
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Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 55m
BREAKING: Perry High School sh**ter identified. This is allegedly his tiktok account which was already scrubbed. He posted this photo before the sh**ting from the school bathroom. He appears to be part of the LGBTQ community with the flag in his bio. In another post he put the hashtag #genderfluid.
In another video he acted out a sh**ting exchange. Obviously a broken, mentally ill person.
Source: dailymail.co.uk/news/article…
Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 42m
Here’s the Iowa shooter’s post with the hashtag #genderfluid and the trans flag. He also had the LGBT flag in his bio.
Here’s the video where he acted out a shooting exchange where he shot someone dead.
There was another video where he acted out the Texas Chainsaw Massacre - I went back to save it but the account had already been deleted.
His account was dark and morbid. A deeply disturbed person.
Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 17m
Another image from the Iowa shooter’s now deleted tiktok account says “love your trans kids.” Watch this story disappear.
http://tinyurl.com/2cjkrexs
Nitter thread to see all of the images/screencaps.
BREAKING: Perry High School sh**ter identified. This is allegedly his tiktok account which was already scrubbed. He posted this photo before the sh**ting from the school bathroom. He appears to be part of the LGBTQ community with the flag in his bio. In another post he put the hashtag #genderfluid.
In another video he acted out a sh**ting exchange. Obviously a broken, mentally ill person.
Source: dailymail.co.uk/news/article…
Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 42m
Here’s the Iowa shooter’s post with the hashtag #genderfluid and the trans flag. He also had the LGBT flag in his bio.
Here’s the video where he acted out a shooting exchange where he shot someone dead.
There was another video where he acted out the Texas Chainsaw Massacre - I went back to save it but the account had already been deleted.
His account was dark and morbid. A deeply disturbed person.
Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 17m
Another image from the Iowa shooter’s now deleted tiktok account says “love your trans kids.” Watch this story disappear.
http://tinyurl.com/2cjkrexs
Nitter thread to see all of the images/screencaps.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (2yu8s)
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But I heard that white supremacy is the 559th most important topic to voters!
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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It will explain why the dead come to vote in Philly.
Crowded on that cart.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:00 PM (GkGI9)
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It will explain why the dead come to vote in Philly.
Crowded on that cart.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (CsUN+)
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House Democrats appear to be reverting to an old playbook with their latest report claiming President Trump violated the Constitution by accepting payments for leases and hotel stays while in office due to the "collusive participation of foreign states."
.. so, are they saying that Barack Obama, requiring visitors to the White House to pay for their own meal, has violated the Constitution ?
.. so, are they saying that Barack Obama, requiring visitors to the White House to pay for their own meal, has violated the Constitution ?
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (RHGPo)
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I don't think he could be President but he'd be a perfect press secretary.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
Yeah, he would. He'd be very good at that.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
Yeah, he would. He'd be very good at that.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (BdMk6)
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83 15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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A large portion of them are probably incarcerated and have banded together in prison as a defensive measure against the racism they face from other segregated gangs.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (7fElN)
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Good point. That I can see.
By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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A large portion of them are probably incarcerated and have banded together in prison as a defensive measure against the racism they face from other segregated gangs.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (7fElN)
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Good point. That I can see.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
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Next question. Do you have any other microscopically small non-movements you're demanding I condemn? Shall I condemn model railroad enthusiasts who refuse to use any of the standard scales for philosophical reason? Shall I condemn people whose favorite fruit is the lemon?"
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"Do you at the Washington Post condemn Henry Rogers -- AKA Ibram X. Kendi -- and his many acolytes who overtly & actively agitate for present and future racism as the 'solution' to past racism?
That's what we in the biz call of rhetorical question, asshat ..."
* mic drop *
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"Do you at the Washington Post condemn Henry Rogers -- AKA Ibram X. Kendi -- and his many acolytes who overtly & actively agitate for present and future racism as the 'solution' to past racism?
That's what we in the biz call of rhetorical question, asshat ..."
* mic drop *
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (DjNoS)
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Unless he's a plant........
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM
This is abou....
*zzz*
*drools*
...about me, isn't it?
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 01:58 PM
This is abou....
*zzz*
*drools*
...about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (QC8l5)
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DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
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DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump
He has done virtually none of that, but ran a traditional run of the mill 2008-type campaign that makes him ...
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Shush. You aren't supposed to talk back to an Ace lecture on the marvel superhero Ron DeSantis.
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DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump
He has done virtually none of that, but ran a traditional run of the mill 2008-type campaign that makes him ...
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Shush. You aren't supposed to talk back to an Ace lecture on the marvel superhero Ron DeSantis.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (HgGFf)
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Yes, I fully condemn all 15,000 active white supremacists, according to FBI statistics, who pose a threat of taking over this entire country of 330 million people.
I wouldn't do this. I might say that I condemn ALL racial supremacists. I'd be more likely to say that I condemn all violent racial supremacists. Which is sort of what he said.
Even if you point out the diminutive nature of white supremacy in America, the media will either use your statement as confirmation or they'll blast you for it. Given that non-white racial supremacy seems to be a bigger issue at the moment, don't give them anything.
I wouldn't do this. I might say that I condemn ALL racial supremacists. I'd be more likely to say that I condemn all violent racial supremacists. Which is sort of what he said.
Even if you point out the diminutive nature of white supremacy in America, the media will either use your statement as confirmation or they'll blast you for it. Given that non-white racial supremacy seems to be a bigger issue at the moment, don't give them anything.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (zhLdt)
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Marc Andreessen on X yesterday asked: What is something you believe to be true that you can't say, and something you believe to be false that you have to say?
Apparently this WaPo reporter is the enforcement mechanism for the latter.
Apparently this WaPo reporter is the enforcement mechanism for the latter.
Posted by: Candidus at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (Ya7DW)
Posted by: norrin radd at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (dN+2t)
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>>95 Vivek for Trump press secretary.
Posted by: norrin radd
He wouldn't look right with a dirty mop on his head.
Posted by: norrin radd
He wouldn't look right with a dirty mop on his head.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (eYF7X)
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large portion of them are probably incarcerated and have banded together in prison as a defensive measure against the racism they face from other segregated gangs.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (7fElN)
That’s how they started but today the Heroin Nation is more about drugs and criminal enterprise and partners up with the black and Hispanic gangs frequently.
But you are correct that they are probably counted under the FBI statistics as White Supremacy groups.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 01:57 PM (7fElN)
That’s how they started but today the Heroin Nation is more about drugs and criminal enterprise and partners up with the black and Hispanic gangs frequently.
But you are correct that they are probably counted under the FBI statistics as White Supremacy groups.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (MNhXM)
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Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (krQz2)
I didn't realize that "believing" in the Holocaust was a rational choice. It's like asking if someone believes in the ground they are standing on. They may not and I guess they don't have too but ummm
I didn't realize that "believing" in the Holocaust was a rational choice. It's like asking if someone believes in the ground they are standing on. They may not and I guess they don't have too but ummm
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (d2R3c)
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DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)
I dunno, man. STRIVE has been making me some money.
At this point, the only candidate who can do something is deSantis, and that is because he is an actual governor, not a real estate magnate who managed to be elected president, or a guy who had a successful biotech company , passed the bar and then started a number of index funds.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)
I dunno, man. STRIVE has been making me some money.
At this point, the only candidate who can do something is deSantis, and that is because he is an actual governor, not a real estate magnate who managed to be elected president, or a guy who had a successful biotech company , passed the bar and then started a number of index funds.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (D7oie)
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Judging by the protests that we have been witness to the last 3 months, I would have to estimate that there are about 250,000+ Hamas supporting, Jew hating, America hating assholes in this country. I would also guess that more than 50,000 of them have been radicalized to the point of committing violent acts.
Every time the FBI tries to stage a fake white supremacy rally in some city, nobody but FBI agents show up. I remember a while back there was a story about a planned rally and more reporters showed up than white supremacists and they still ran the story.
Every time the FBI tries to stage a fake white supremacy rally in some city, nobody but FBI agents show up. I remember a while back there was a story about a planned rally and more reporters showed up than white supremacists and they still ran the story.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (KEVWt)
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He does when presented the opportunity. But is playing the only game he can play. Trump is so far ahead, and having been made the victim by the crazy antics of the left, you really just need to stay in the shadows in case Trump hits a real roadblock.
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Yeah, it's likely too little too late now, but I genuinely believe had he talked like Vivek from the very start, unlike Vivek it would gave gotten more traction because coming from him, it's more believable and credible.
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Yeah, it's likely too little too late now, but I genuinely believe had he talked like Vivek from the very start, unlike Vivek it would gave gotten more traction because coming from him, it's more believable and credible.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (VTu1l)
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BTW Joe Biden is supposed to give his big speech tomorrow on stopping "white supremacy". How coincidental, almost like the press works for the Democrats.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (cMXNt)
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15000?
Ya Boi Zach is wildly optimistic.
Probably closer to 5000 and then 5000 paid federal informants and then 5000 federal agents.
And I'm not cynical enough.
If white supremacy, white power, privilege, discrimination and the like were in any reasonable supply it wouldn't be necessary to manufacture it. If any thing, the very opposite is true.
White people are so ashamed of their own skin and history they won't defend it even from blatent attacks for fear of "looking" like a supremicist
Ya Boi Zach is wildly optimistic.
Probably closer to 5000 and then 5000 paid federal informants and then 5000 federal agents.
And I'm not cynical enough.
If white supremacy, white power, privilege, discrimination and the like were in any reasonable supply it wouldn't be necessary to manufacture it. If any thing, the very opposite is true.
White people are so ashamed of their own skin and history they won't defend it even from blatent attacks for fear of "looking" like a supremicist
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (FCbAQ)
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"DeSantis needed to show the Trump base he can and would be Trump without the Trump"
From what I've seen, many Trump voters wouldn't switch if Jesus Christ himself walked across the Potomac and asked them really nicely. Not all, but many. Please don't pretend that they're open to persuasion.
From what I've seen, many Trump voters wouldn't switch if Jesus Christ himself walked across the Potomac and asked them really nicely. Not all, but many. Please don't pretend that they're open to persuasion.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (CsUN+)
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Journalists have the superpower to unerringly know the truth. They are superhumans. They are the next evolution of the human race.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
I believe the new definition of "truth" in Webster's is "whatever some approved journalist uttered most recently".
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:44 PM (KRtlO)
I believe the new definition of "truth" in Webster's is "whatever some approved journalist uttered most recently".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (zhLdt)
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I still would like to see Sarah Huckabee as VP.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (eYF7X)
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I do not care.
Ramadamadingdong would be a fine V.P. pick for Trump;
- but,
- butt,
General Michael Flynn would be better.
Ramadamadingdong would be a fine V.P. pick for Trump;
- but,
- butt,
General Michael Flynn would be better.
Posted by: Marooned at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (kt8QE)
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Collin Rugg @CollinRugg 43m
BREAKING: TikTok has scrubbed an account that allegedly belonged to the Perry High School shooting suspect, Dylan Butler.
Luckily, I captured a screen recording of the account before it was taken down.
The account was named 'tooktoomuch' and featured a pride flag in the bio.
The person who owned the account appeared to be a loser, mentally ill, druggy.
He was also in a pretend gun fight with one of his friends in one video.
http://tinyurl.com/3byweu3u
2:51 minutes; LOUD
BREAKING: TikTok has scrubbed an account that allegedly belonged to the Perry High School shooting suspect, Dylan Butler.
Luckily, I captured a screen recording of the account before it was taken down.
The account was named 'tooktoomuch' and featured a pride flag in the bio.
The person who owned the account appeared to be a loser, mentally ill, druggy.
He was also in a pretend gun fight with one of his friends in one video.
http://tinyurl.com/3byweu3u
2:51 minutes; LOUD
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (2yu8s)
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Another image from the Iowa shooter’s now deleted tiktok account says “love your trans kids.” Watch this story disappear.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (2yu8s)
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This *is* how stories disappear.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (2yu8s)
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This *is* how stories disappear.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (MNhXM)
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Just another version of the 'are you still beating your wife?" question. The media has a million of them for any conservative candidate.
Posted by: norrin radd at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (dN+2t)
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ISIS Claims Responsibility For Mass Casualty Suicide Bombings In Iran
Surveillance footage from crowded event clearly showed a male suicide bomber detonating explosives.
... I guess the rift between Sunni and Shia only has a Hamas exception
Surveillance footage from crowded event clearly showed a male suicide bomber detonating explosives.
... I guess the rift between Sunni and Shia only has a Hamas exception
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (RHGPo)
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107 The problem with Vivek is the same with Kari Lake. He's too combative and argumentative.
Disagree. Our base craves that right now -- as long as it's tempered with inspiring patriotism. In both cases, Vivek and Kari Lake, it abundantly is. (I guess I must offer the reminder that Lake won Arizona.)
Disagree. Our base craves that right now -- as long as it's tempered with inspiring patriotism. In both cases, Vivek and Kari Lake, it abundantly is. (I guess I must offer the reminder that Lake won Arizona.)
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (v6srk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:05 PM (xcxpd)
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I don't think he could be President but he'd be a perfect press secretary.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
I don't think he'd want to do that, but that is a great idea.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
I don't think he'd want to do that, but that is a great idea.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:05 PM (RSbhh)
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The KKK was "The Armed Militant Wing of the Democrat Party." They formed it, they owned and still own it.
The KKK, and now BLM/Antifa are the Hamas of the Democrats.
The KKK was "The Armed Militant Wing of the Democrat Party." They formed it, they owned and still own it.
The KKK, and now BLM/Antifa are the Hamas of the Democrats.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2024 02:05 PM (x0n13)
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126 Yeah, it's likely too little too late now, but I genuinely believe had he talked like Vivek from the very start, unlike Vivek it would gave gotten more traction because coming from him, it's more believable and credible.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (VTu1l)
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Since more than half of the Republican electorate thinks that Democrats are outright stealing elections, I think the only kind of candidate who could have seriously taken on Trump in the primary was one who made election integrity one of their major planks.
How that would have manifested in terms of actual policy proposals is kind of irrelevant. Hope and Change won 2008. Ignoring election malfeasance by the left was just acting like one of the single most important issues on the right doesn't exist.
But again, I should note: Trump doesn't have a plan for election chicanery. No one does. The only candidate who takes election fraud seriously is Joe Biden.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (VTu1l)
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Since more than half of the Republican electorate thinks that Democrats are outright stealing elections, I think the only kind of candidate who could have seriously taken on Trump in the primary was one who made election integrity one of their major planks.
How that would have manifested in terms of actual policy proposals is kind of irrelevant. Hope and Change won 2008. Ignoring election malfeasance by the left was just acting like one of the single most important issues on the right doesn't exist.
But again, I should note: Trump doesn't have a plan for election chicanery. No one does. The only candidate who takes election fraud seriously is Joe Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
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What kind of sick monster has lemons as their favorite fruit?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (ZLI7S)
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These liberal bloggers don't care, they know anyone stupid enough to believe them, won't bother to look for alternate sources that always prove them wrong.
Posted by: Rbastid at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (OAO86)
Bringing in the previous topic, this is why they link Trump and Epstein... they know that their followers will never spend even a second in critical thought.
Posted by: Rbastid at January 04, 2024 01:45 PM (OAO86)
Bringing in the previous topic, this is why they link Trump and Epstein... they know that their followers will never spend even a second in critical thought.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (zhLdt)
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BTW Joe Biden is supposed to give his big speech tomorrow on stopping "white supremacy"
Has Joe looked in the mirror ? before he turned lobster red he was almost translucent
Has Joe looked in the mirror ? before he turned lobster red he was almost translucent
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (n2vyf)
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>>>Anyone who is white, or who is "adjacent to white" and therefore benefits from "white privilege," and who does not violently oppose this system of "white supremacy" by joining "anti-fascist" and "anti-racist" groups to smash the whole "white supremacist" superstructure that rules our society, is a "white supremacist."
Ah yes - any Muslim who does not violently oppose terrorist action of Muslims, be they Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran, is a Muslim terrorist.
Ah yes - any Muslim who does not violently oppose terrorist action of Muslims, be they Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran, is a Muslim terrorist.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (Mzdiz)
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By "white supremacists," I mean true white supremacists in the classic definition of the term. Not white people who like being white (I do), who think Western culture is superior to third-world tribal warfare (I do), or who think there's considerable dysfunction in minority communities (I do). That kind of shit don't count.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Maybe to you but not to the Left and the MSM.
All those things ARE white supremacy in their book.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Maybe to you but not to the Left and the MSM.
All those things ARE white supremacy in their book.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (cMXNt)
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The KKK was "The Armed Militant Wing of the Democrat Party." They formed it, they owned and still own it.
The KKK, and now BLM/Antifa are the Hamas of the Democrats.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2024 02:05 PM (x0n13)
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There isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Klan and Antifa. They're the same thing: the armed street combat division of the Party.
The KKK, and now BLM/Antifa are the Hamas of the Democrats.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2024 02:05 PM (x0n13)
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There isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Klan and Antifa. They're the same thing: the armed street combat division of the Party.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (WkNQM)
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The account was named 'tooktoomuch' and featured a pride flag in the bio.
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We're at what, 7 of 7 of the last white people matter mass shooters being trannies or tranny lovers?
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We're at what, 7 of 7 of the last white people matter mass shooters being trannies or tranny lovers?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (9cE5Q)
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Willowed.
Starfucks??
Posted by: andycanuck
Have you heard about the latest all the rage?
NATE
@NATERERUN
They doing all this over a pink Starbucks Stanley cup…. Like WHAT does cup got in it that’s making these people go crazy
People camped outside Target, then trampled each other just to get their hands on a Stanley Valentine's cup
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Although the holiday is over a month away, the double-wall vacuum-insulated tumblers priced at $45 have sold out online and across Target stores nationwide after their initial Dec. 31 drop … the tumblers are already up on resale sites like eBay, listed at prices up to $240.
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And when I say people went nuts I mean these peeps camped out at Target as early as 3 a.m. to get in line for the cup's release.
Starfucks??
Posted by: andycanuck
Have you heard about the latest all the rage?
NATE
@NATERERUN
They doing all this over a pink Starbucks Stanley cup…. Like WHAT does cup got in it that’s making these people go crazy
People camped outside Target, then trampled each other just to get their hands on a Stanley Valentine's cup
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Although the holiday is over a month away, the double-wall vacuum-insulated tumblers priced at $45 have sold out online and across Target stores nationwide after their initial Dec. 31 drop … the tumblers are already up on resale sites like eBay, listed at prices up to $240.
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And when I say people went nuts I mean these peeps camped out at Target as early as 3 a.m. to get in line for the cup's release.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (FVME7)
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General Michael Flynn would be better.
Posted by: Marooned at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (kt8QE)
For all the false things they accused him of which I defended him bigley, he’s still a democrat and a toady of Erdogan.
Posted by: Marooned at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (kt8QE)
For all the false things they accused him of which I defended him bigley, he’s still a democrat and a toady of Erdogan.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (MNhXM)
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Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
Where is the example of one who is _not_ combative with present day media and yet still effective in getting their message across AND not being rolled over?
Where is the example of one who is _not_ combative with present day media and yet still effective in getting their message across AND not being rolled over?
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (d2R3c)
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I don't think he could be President but he'd be a perfect press secretary.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
I don't think he'd want to do that, but that is a great idea.
Given what Trump did to Kayleigh McEnany, he'd be a fool to take the job.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (lXCUP)
I don't think he'd want to do that, but that is a great idea.
Given what Trump did to Kayleigh McEnany, he'd be a fool to take the job.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (CsUN+)
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138 107 The problem with Vivek is the same with Kari Lake. He's too combative and argumentative.
Disagree. Our base craves that right now -- as long as it's tempered with inspiring patriotism. In both cases, Vivek and Kari Lake, it abundantly is. (I guess I must offer the reminder that Lake won Arizona.)
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (v6srk)
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"Ooops...our signature verification was so bad that it was outside the bounds of law. Oh well."
-Katie Hobbes, former Secretary of State of AZ, now governor
Disagree. Our base craves that right now -- as long as it's tempered with inspiring patriotism. In both cases, Vivek and Kari Lake, it abundantly is. (I guess I must offer the reminder that Lake won Arizona.)
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:04 PM (v6srk)
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"Ooops...our signature verification was so bad that it was outside the bounds of law. Oh well."
-Katie Hobbes, former Secretary of State of AZ, now governor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (GBKbO)
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121 >>95 Vivek for Trump press secretary.
Posted by: norrin radd
He's overqualified. Tammy Bruce would be perfect. Former feminist, Lesbian, patriot, charming and cheerful, tough as nails.
Posted by: norrin radd
He's overqualified. Tammy Bruce would be perfect. Former feminist, Lesbian, patriot, charming and cheerful, tough as nails.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (v6srk)
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70 >>>Just watched The Station Agent for the first time last night. Pretty good movie. Train enthusiasts are a weird breed.
i would like to be a Train Buff
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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Or just in the buff?
Women-only skiing event will host NAKED after-hours lap on chilly Colorado slopes: Event is open to non-binary skiiers and those who are 'female identifying'
https://mol.im/a/12924699
i would like to be a Train Buff
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)
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Or just in the buff?
Women-only skiing event will host NAKED after-hours lap on chilly Colorado slopes: Event is open to non-binary skiiers and those who are 'female identifying'
https://mol.im/a/12924699
Posted by: Ciampino - How many are going to dangle? at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (qfLjt)
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Vivek recycles an Obama speech.. http://tinyurl.com/4t3aheph
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (WPHuI)
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BREAKING: Perry High School sh**ter identified. This is allegedly his tiktok account which was already scrubbed. He posted this photo before the sh**ting from the school bathroom. He appears to be part of the LGBTQ community with the flag in his bio. In another post he put the hashtag #genderfluid.
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shitter?
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shitter?
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (DjNoS)
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>>Given what Trump did to Kayleigh McEnany, he'd be a fool to take the job.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
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83 15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
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According to the Hollywood Cop Shows, LA is overrun by Neo-Nazis and Racist Klan gangs. They are the Go To hated violent criminal gangs those shows love as the antagonist.
Everyone hates them, and they are politically correct bad guys.
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According to the Hollywood Cop Shows, LA is overrun by Neo-Nazis and Racist Klan gangs. They are the Go To hated violent criminal gangs those shows love as the antagonist.
Everyone hates them, and they are politically correct bad guys.
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (vhAjI)
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Gomez Addams had an affinity for trains.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
So did Hermann Goering.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
So did Hermann Goering.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (tkR6S)
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Please don't pretend that they're open to persuasion.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (CsUN+)
Unlike DeSantis supporters who change their mind all the time and don't shill for him every day for years.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:03 PM (CsUN+)
Unlike DeSantis supporters who change their mind all the time and don't shill for him every day for years.
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (d2R3c)
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Maybe to you but not to the Left and the MSM.
All those things ARE white supremacy in their book.
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All while somehow truly believing that the core belief in the idea of black people being genetically incapable of academic achievement, socialable behavior, and raising their family, feeding themselves, etc. based entirely on their skin color is somehow NOT white supremacy.
Believe a black man can wake up, go to work, speak proper english, and not murder people?
You're a racist.
All those things ARE white supremacy in their book.
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All while somehow truly believing that the core belief in the idea of black people being genetically incapable of academic achievement, socialable behavior, and raising their family, feeding themselves, etc. based entirely on their skin color is somehow NOT white supremacy.
Believe a black man can wake up, go to work, speak proper english, and not murder people?
You're a racist.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (9cE5Q)
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I keep hearing illogical garbage like this. As if the tenets of freedom and liberty are somehow only Trump qualities. It's absolute bullshit and I'm tired of it. If there is ever to be a successor to Trump, whether he wins or not, they will need to be disconnected from the personality of Trump. Provided they adhere to the core conservative values and are committed to The Bill of Rights, I'm all for that. This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption. There are others who are worthy, and they don't need to kiss the ring of the self anointed. God-king.
Posted by: Marcus T
Then can they step up and make themselves known? Because I'm not seeing it. Not from any of them.
Posted by: Marcus T
Then can they step up and make themselves known? Because I'm not seeing it. Not from any of them.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (2NaVH)
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>>Gomez Addams had an affinity for trains.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
>>So did Hermann Goering.
So does Joey Choo Choo Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
>>So did Hermann Goering.
So does Joey Choo Choo Biden.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (ZLI7S)
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DeSantis routinely refutes the assumptions of the press and embarrasses, as he did with the "Don't Say Gay" bullshit and trans bullshit that Trump refuses to talk about. (Except for a single claim in January that he would stop it -- weird that he never said anything before that or since)
You don't know about this, though, because they don't publish DeSantis' many, many rip-the-media videos on Truth Social or in your Trump cult hang-outs.
DeSantis is FAMOUSLY combative. You have to be a real fucking bubble-boy moron not to know that.
You don't know about this, though, because they don't publish DeSantis' many, many rip-the-media videos on Truth Social or in your Trump cult hang-outs.
DeSantis is FAMOUSLY combative. You have to be a real fucking bubble-boy moron not to know that.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (KRtlO)
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158 BREAKING: Perry High School sh**ter identified. This is allegedly his tiktok account which was already scrubbed. He posted this photo before the sh**ting from the school bathroom. He appears to be part of the LGBTQ community with the flag in his bio. In another post he put the hashtag #genderfluid.
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shitter?
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So, an unhappy fag or an unhappy transzi?
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shitter?
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So, an unhappy fag or an unhappy transzi?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (LVNnd)
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After stepping on the *cough, cough * journalist, did he wipe the shit off his shoe?
Posted by: Beartooth at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (kxx6d)
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> I invite politicians to find the source of Zack's "15,000 white supremacists" claim and use this statistic in their answers
I believe the FBI and SPLC both estimate there are something like 8,000 KKK members in the US. I contend that at least half of that number are either law enforcement agents or law enforcement informants.
I believe the FBI and SPLC both estimate there are something like 8,000 KKK members in the US. I contend that at least half of that number are either law enforcement agents or law enforcement informants.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (Odg76)
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Yeah, it's likely too little too late now, but I genuinely believe had he talked like Vivek from the very start, unlike Vivek it would gave gotten more traction because coming from him, it's more believable and credible.
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Totally agree. His long term gain would have very significant. He rolled the dice on a quick rise. Sad.
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Totally agree. His long term gain would have very significant. He rolled the dice on a quick rise. Sad.
Posted by: Ironic isn't it at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (HgGFf)
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From what I've seen, many Trump voters wouldn't switch if Jesus Christ himself walked across the Potomac and asked them really nicely. Not all, but many. Please don't pretend that they're open to persuasion.
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DeSantis started strongly, this idea that enough Trump supporters cant be persuaded to switch is getting tiredly bigoted and offensive. He was already within striking distance and just had to outclass Trump.
But for some reason he moderated the very positions that would have put him ahead, i guess to play towards the middle. He has chosen... poorly.
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DeSantis started strongly, this idea that enough Trump supporters cant be persuaded to switch is getting tiredly bigoted and offensive. He was already within striking distance and just had to outclass Trump.
But for some reason he moderated the very positions that would have put him ahead, i guess to play towards the middle. He has chosen... poorly.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (VTu1l)
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Ooops...our signature verification was so bad that it was outside the bounds of law. Oh well."
-Katie Hobbes, former Secretary of State of AZ, now governor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
What the fuck do you want us to do about it?
-AZ supreme court
-Katie Hobbes, former Secretary of State of AZ, now governor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
What the fuck do you want us to do about it?
-AZ supreme court
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (NYzgN)
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165 >>Gomez Addams had an affinity for trains.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
>>So did Hermann Goering.
So does Joey Choo Choo Biden.
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Might as well add Lincoln to the trains run on time list.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
>>So did Hermann Goering.
So does Joey Choo Choo Biden.
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Might as well add Lincoln to the trains run on time list.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (LVNnd)
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Well, polls show blacks believe they are 50% of the population.
So, on that lie, that blacks don't hold 50% of all political offices is proof of widespread, systematic racism.
Every Supreme Court and federal court ruling mandating minority-majority districts reinforces and amplifies both lies.
Sandra O'Conner--3 generations removed from the last Jim Crow law being repealed--ruled the country must atone for at least a 4th generation. And we are well into the 5th.
2 generations in the desert was sufficient to reform the Israelites of their idolatry.
The God that created all men as equals is the one that must be stamped out.
So, on that lie, that blacks don't hold 50% of all political offices is proof of widespread, systematic racism.
Every Supreme Court and federal court ruling mandating minority-majority districts reinforces and amplifies both lies.
Sandra O'Conner--3 generations removed from the last Jim Crow law being repealed--ruled the country must atone for at least a 4th generation. And we are well into the 5th.
2 generations in the desert was sufficient to reform the Israelites of their idolatry.
The God that created all men as equals is the one that must be stamped out.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (TzW+Y)
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I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (cMXNt)
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159 >>Given what Trump did to Kayleigh McEnany, he'd be a fool to take the job.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
We should also mention WHO Kayleigh has done.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
We should also mention WHO Kayleigh has done.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (xcxpd)
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i checked the splc website maybe ten years ago and they said 10,000 active white supremacists. 50 percent growth in ten years is a clear sign that we need to have the u.n. take control of our government. for our own good. and the graft. but most for our own good.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (B1FKF)
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BREAKING: Perry High School sh**ter identified. This is allegedly his tiktok account which was already scrubbed. He posted this photo before the sh**ting from the school bathroom. He appears to be part of the LGBTQ community with the flag in his bio. In another post he put the hashtag #genderfluid.
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During African- & Negroid-American Trans Genocide Vengeance & Kwanzaa Month of Rage?
REALLY???
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During African- & Negroid-American Trans Genocide Vengeance & Kwanzaa Month of Rage?
REALLY???
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (DjNoS)
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175 I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (cMXNt)
I'm in.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (cMXNt)
I'm in.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (xcxpd)
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Although the holiday is over a month away, the double-wall vacuum-insulated tumblers priced at $45 have sold out online and across Target stores nationwide after their initial Dec. 31 drop … the tumblers are already up on resale sites like eBay, listed at prices up to $240.
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And when I say people went nuts I mean these peeps camped out at Target as early as 3 a.m. to get in line for the cup's release.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (FVME7)
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Yea the stupid Stanley cup thing is the latest influencer-created craze for frustrated, unhappy, status-desperate women. It's a fucking thermos! Get a fucking life!
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And when I say people went nuts I mean these peeps camped out at Target as early as 3 a.m. to get in line for the cup's release.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (FVME7)
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Yea the stupid Stanley cup thing is the latest influencer-created craze for frustrated, unhappy, status-desperate women. It's a fucking thermos! Get a fucking life!
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (iFTx/)
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the FBI estimates there are 15,000 active white supremacists in the United State, a nation of 330 million people.
And how many of these knuckle draggers are members of the Aryan Brotherhood many of whom are already doing life?
And how many of these knuckle draggers are members of the Aryan Brotherhood many of whom are already doing life?
Posted by: Clay at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (7tTIa)
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Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
Are you fucking kidding me. She unintentionally reported an older poll number of him being up 25% instead of the newer poll number of 34%.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
Are you fucking kidding me. She unintentionally reported an older poll number of him being up 25% instead of the newer poll number of 34%.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (MNhXM)
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There are 0 white supremacists. They are all government informants.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (NYzgN)
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Trust? I trust him more than Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (L8hCM)
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I didn't realize that "believing" in the Holocaust was a rational choice. It's like asking if someone believes in the ground they are standing on. They may not and I guess they don't have too but ummm
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (d2R3c)
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Historical facts aren't anything like the ground you are standing on. Historical events can't be proven, they can only be proven to have equal documentation/grounds for believing when compared to all the other things we accept as history.
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (d2R3c)
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Historical facts aren't anything like the ground you are standing on. Historical events can't be proven, they can only be proven to have equal documentation/grounds for believing when compared to all the other things we accept as history.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
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5 At least 20% of the population is made up of non-citizens. I think that is a bigger problem than white supremacy.
Posted by: huerfano
That's just what a white supremacist Nazi WOULD say!!!!
Posted by: huerfano
That's just what a white supremacist Nazi WOULD say!!!!
Posted by: Radical Racial Grievance Leftist at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (JCZqz)
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175 I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (cMXNt)
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Will there be the changing of regular wine into Trump Wine?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (cMXNt)
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Will there be the changing of regular wine into Trump Wine?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (GBKbO)
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They doing all this over a pink Starbucks Stanley cup
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That reminds me, I just heard that Starbucks is going to allow customers to bring their own cups in for their beverage purchase.
It's so they can save the planet, and has nothing to do with the massive cost savings of not needing to provide a cup to the same user each day.
EARTH FIRST H8RS
- Love,
Your Friendly Neighborhood Multinational Corporation
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That reminds me, I just heard that Starbucks is going to allow customers to bring their own cups in for their beverage purchase.
It's so they can save the planet, and has nothing to do with the massive cost savings of not needing to provide a cup to the same user each day.
EARTH FIRST H8RS
- Love,
Your Friendly Neighborhood Multinational Corporation
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (9cE5Q)
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Ah yes - any Muslim who does not violently oppose terrorist action of Muslims, be they Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran, is a Muslim terrorist.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (Mzdiz)
To steal a quip from Chairman Mao, they are the sea in which the jihadi fish swim.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (Mzdiz)
To steal a quip from Chairman Mao, they are the sea in which the jihadi fish swim.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (tkR6S)
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The problem with Vivek is the same with Kari Lake. He's too combative and argumentative. We might like that style, but most people -- including even those who otherwise agree with him on the issues -- don't. Not at all. Vivek could have said exactly what he said but with a smile and less aggressively.
It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
Good grief. It's attitudes like this is why this nation is in this mess.
"That's not who we are". "His tweets are so mean". "Can't we all just get along?"
It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
Good grief. It's attitudes like this is why this nation is in this mess.
"That's not who we are". "His tweets are so mean". "Can't we all just get along?"
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (BdMk6)
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143 What kind of sick monster has lemons as their favorite fruit?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (ZLI7S)
Suh...you impugn my honah !
I demand satisfaction...
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (ZLI7S)
Suh...you impugn my honah !
I demand satisfaction...
Posted by: Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (TTAGa)
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"Ramaswamy paraphrases noted racialist John Roberts. -- Was that Roberts? I thought it was Scalia. Whichever it was, he wasn't wrong."
yeah, I was gonna say, that is what Scalia said.
yeah, I was gonna say, that is what Scalia said.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (Cus5s)
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It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
dude. never hire a nice lawyer, unless you want a will or a business contract set up. If you are going to trial, or negotiating, you need a honeybadger who grew up fighting in a logging camp. You need a bastard who will take your money and fight as long as you pay him. Polish is extra, and ability to wear a tie is a must, but you want someone who comes out of the gate and curbstomps anyone in his way.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
dude. never hire a nice lawyer, unless you want a will or a business contract set up. If you are going to trial, or negotiating, you need a honeybadger who grew up fighting in a logging camp. You need a bastard who will take your money and fight as long as you pay him. Polish is extra, and ability to wear a tie is a must, but you want someone who comes out of the gate and curbstomps anyone in his way.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (D7oie)
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But for some reason he moderated the very positions that would have put him ahead, i guess to play towards the middle. He has chosen... poorly.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (VTu1l)
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Nobody will mention one of DeSantis' big donors has backed out and now supporting Trump.
The donor said DeSantis wouldn't even return a call for an update on the campaign.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (VTu1l)
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Nobody will mention one of DeSantis' big donors has backed out and now supporting Trump.
The donor said DeSantis wouldn't even return a call for an update on the campaign.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (cMXNt)
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It's not that the dogs don't like the food - the dogs are just cultists.
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (d2R3c)
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So Antifa , BLM, criminals and jihadis were the left shock troops over the last few years. Now we can add deranged trans kids to the roster . Nashville and this kid. The march through the institutions is paying off
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (30oly)
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And a majority of those alleged confirmed 15,000 white supremacists are also Jew haters that support Hamas just like the Left.
Posted by: Joe Paterno at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (MNhXM)
I'd deducted the 8000+ FBI agents from the 15,000 number to get a more accurate estimate.
Posted by: Joe Paterno at January 04, 2024 01:50 PM (MNhXM)
I'd deducted the 8000+ FBI agents from the 15,000 number to get a more accurate estimate.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (kxx6d)
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I really don't know what the deal is with Vivek Ramaswamey.
Last week my ex sent me a video of about 6 or 7 different sound bites of Vivek using same speeches that Obama had used, down to the exact same words. A plagiarizer, in other words.
Last week my ex sent me a video of about 6 or 7 different sound bites of Vivek using same speeches that Obama had used, down to the exact same words. A plagiarizer, in other words.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (CmpAD)
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Given what Trump did to Kayleigh McEnany, he'd be a fool to take the job.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
I assume you mean gave out poll numbers that she probably believed were accurate at the time (but who knows), only to have Trump go scorched earth on someone who had consistently and ably defended him? Yeah, that sounds stable.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
I assume you mean gave out poll numbers that she probably believed were accurate at the time (but who knows), only to have Trump go scorched earth on someone who had consistently and ably defended him? Yeah, that sounds stable.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (CsUN+)
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15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why? ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Being generous with the counting, the KKK has an estimated 8,000 members. The Aryan Brotherhood - which is almost entirely institutional (prison) has an estimated 20,000 members. That's a total of 28,000.
Assume further - remember, I'm being generous - that the number of closet members is far greater. Let's call it 3:1. So that would be a total of around 112,000, including the institutional population. Let's round it up for convenience and call it 115,000 as a generous assumption.
90% of the true white supremacists would fit in LSU's Tiger Stadium. Nearly three times that number of illegal aliens crossed the border in December alone.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Being generous with the counting, the KKK has an estimated 8,000 members. The Aryan Brotherhood - which is almost entirely institutional (prison) has an estimated 20,000 members. That's a total of 28,000.
Assume further - remember, I'm being generous - that the number of closet members is far greater. Let's call it 3:1. So that would be a total of around 112,000, including the institutional population. Let's round it up for convenience and call it 115,000 as a generous assumption.
90% of the true white supremacists would fit in LSU's Tiger Stadium. Nearly three times that number of illegal aliens crossed the border in December alone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (WkNQM)
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DeSantis is FAMOUSLY combative. You have to be a real fucking bubble-boy moron not to know that.
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Um right. All agree. that is why the combative vivek video raises the comparison. The difference is that Vivek is running for vice president and Ron obviously is not.
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Um right. All agree. that is why the combative vivek video raises the comparison. The difference is that Vivek is running for vice president and Ron obviously is not.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (HgGFf)
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (V13WU)
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This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption. There are others who are worthy, and they don't need to kiss the ring of the self anointed. God-king.
Posted by: Marcus T
Then can they step up and make themselves known? Because I'm not seeing it. Not from any of them.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (2NaVH)
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Yes, who are these other people to whom you allude?"
This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption. There are others who are worthy, and they don't need to kiss the ring of the self anointed. God-king.
Posted by: Marcus T
Then can they step up and make themselves known? Because I'm not seeing it. Not from any of them.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (2NaVH)
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Yes, who are these other people to whom you allude?"
Posted by: Grammar Cops - Did you notice the absence of a dangling participle? at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (qfLjt)
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I just bought a 50ft cabin cruiser with my Trump Troll shitposting check. What are you guys spending yours on?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (NYzgN)
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192 "Ramaswamy paraphrases noted racialist John Roberts. -- Was that Roberts? I thought it was Scalia. Whichever it was, he wasn't wrong."
yeah, I was gonna say, that is what Scalia said.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (Cus5s)
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No, it was Roberts.
Chief Justice Roberts, in the Supreme Court's 2007 Parents Involved decision, stated: "The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."
yeah, I was gonna say, that is what Scalia said.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (Cus5s)
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No, it was Roberts.
Chief Justice Roberts, in the Supreme Court's 2007 Parents Involved decision, stated: "The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
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>>Are you fucking kidding me. She unintentionally reported an older poll number of him being up 25% instead of the newer poll number of 34%.
No, I'm not kidding you. From her perch at anti-Trump Fox News she boarded the Ron train before it went off the tracks. Doesn't matter how many times some people are told they don't seem to understand Trump. He values loyalty above all. It's why he's so angry at Ron and why he turns against everyone who he has helped who turns on him.
No, I'm not kidding you. From her perch at anti-Trump Fox News she boarded the Ron train before it went off the tracks. Doesn't matter how many times some people are told they don't seem to understand Trump. He values loyalty above all. It's why he's so angry at Ron and why he turns against everyone who he has helped who turns on him.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (ZLI7S)
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181 the FBI estimates there are 15,000 active white supremacists in the United State, a nation of 330 million people.
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This is the same FBI that didn't investigate Hillary or Hunter's laptop, rite?
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This is the same FBI that didn't investigate Hillary or Hunter's laptop, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (LVNnd)
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Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
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I hope there will be Trump ribs too
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I hope there will be Trump ribs too
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (VTu1l)
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"DeSantis is FAMOUSLY combative. You have to be a real fucking bubble-boy moron not to know that.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (KRtlO)"
Vivek was basically practicing argumentum ad DeSantis. He has been famously combative and pushed back since forever against the media narratives. It's been his hallmark. But the fanbois have been too busy trying to destroy him. Not just now, but even for the future because he hurt Trump's feelz. I can think of few things more petty or destructive to our future then bowing to a cult of personality. That's not leadership in any form I've ever seen. It's a self serving recipe for disaster.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (KRtlO)"
Vivek was basically practicing argumentum ad DeSantis. He has been famously combative and pushed back since forever against the media narratives. It's been his hallmark. But the fanbois have been too busy trying to destroy him. Not just now, but even for the future because he hurt Trump's feelz. I can think of few things more petty or destructive to our future then bowing to a cult of personality. That's not leadership in any form I've ever seen. It's a self serving recipe for disaster.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (9NZQU)
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dude. never hire a nice lawyer, unless you want a will or a business contract set up. If you are going to trial, or negotiating, you need a honeybadger who grew up fighting in a logging camp. You need a bastard who will take your money and fight as long as you pay him. Polish is extra, and ability to wear a tie is a must, but you want someone who comes out of the gate and curbstomps anyone in his way.
Posted by: Kindltot
That was my divorce lawyer. Honey badger on steroids. Damn he was good.
Posted by: Kindltot
That was my divorce lawyer. Honey badger on steroids. Damn he was good.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (2NaVH)
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Vivek recycles an Obama speech.. http://tinyurl.com/4t3aheph
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (WPHuI)
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I've seen that. Weak sauce.
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 04, 2024 02:07 PM (WPHuI)
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I've seen that. Weak sauce.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (krQz2)
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He wouldn't look right with a dirty mop on his head.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (eYF7X)
He could get advice from Dr Gad Saad
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 04, 2024 02:02 PM (eYF7X)
He could get advice from Dr Gad Saad
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (D7oie)
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Yes, who are these other people to whom you allude?"
Posted by: Grammar Cops - Did you notice the absence of a dangling participle? at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (qfLjt)
yes... I would really look a different choice than what we have....
Posted by: Grammar Cops - Did you notice the absence of a dangling participle? at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (qfLjt)
yes... I would really look a different choice than what we have....
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (n2vyf)
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193 It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
dude. never hire a nice lawyer, unless you want a will or a business contract set up. If you are going to trial, or negotiating, you need a honeybadger who grew up fighting in a logging camp. You need a bastard who will take your money and fight as long as you pay him. Polish is extra, and ability to wear a tie is a must, but you want someone who comes out of the gate and curbstomps anyone in his way.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (D7oie)
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I am a lawyer. I know what is effective in court and with judges and juries.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
dude. never hire a nice lawyer, unless you want a will or a business contract set up. If you are going to trial, or negotiating, you need a honeybadger who grew up fighting in a logging camp. You need a bastard who will take your money and fight as long as you pay him. Polish is extra, and ability to wear a tie is a must, but you want someone who comes out of the gate and curbstomps anyone in his way.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (D7oie)
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I am a lawyer. I know what is effective in court and with judges and juries.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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>>Gomez Addams had an affinity for trains.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
>>So did Hermann Goering.
So does Joey Choo Choo Biden.
Posted by: JackStraw
But Joey's sets are better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
>>So did Hermann Goering.
So does Joey Choo Choo Biden.
Posted by: JackStraw
But Joey's sets are better.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (FVME7)
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Historical facts aren't anything like the ground you are standing on. Historical events can't be proven, they can only be proven to have equal documentation/grounds for believing when compared to all the other things we accept as history.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
I'd argue this particular fact is, except its ground is just a touch harder to walk on, being filled with skulls and all.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
I'd argue this particular fact is, except its ground is just a touch harder to walk on, being filled with skulls and all.
Posted by: JCG at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (d2R3c)
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I like things like this from this Vivek fellow, but wasn't there stuff he's said or done that should make me cringe? I can't remember. Just curious. He's got no chance in hell for anything other than a dumb cabinet job.
Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (h8c/W)
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I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
damn it, I'm only a Trump bootlicker. (so says Terry)
I always miss the good stuff, like steak.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
damn it, I'm only a Trump bootlicker. (so says Terry)
I always miss the good stuff, like steak.
Posted by: old chick at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (sOete)
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This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption. There are others who are worthy, and they don't need to kiss the ring of the self anointed. God-king.
Posted by: Marcus T
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The first one who stands up and begins discussing the 2020 steal and how to address it when they take office in 2024 will get my attention.
But instead it's like it's business as usual. Like it's 1996 or years before that. Just vote harder for these people who will top out at 52M votes, everyone!
Posted by: Marcus T
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The first one who stands up and begins discussing the 2020 steal and how to address it when they take office in 2024 will get my attention.
But instead it's like it's business as usual. Like it's 1996 or years before that. Just vote harder for these people who will top out at 52M votes, everyone!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (9cE5Q)
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But Joey's sets are better.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024
Bigger! Bigger! Not better.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024
Bigger! Bigger! Not better.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (FVME7)
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Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 17m
Another image from the Iowa shooter’s now deleted tiktok account says “love your trans kids.” Watch this story disappear.
http://tinyurl.com/2cjkrexs
Nitter thread to see all of the images/screencaps.
Posted by: andycanuck
A lot of these "kids" (using the term loosely) were probably on Adderall or other childhood mood modifiers, which sometimes have a psychotic side effect.
In other words, all the kids of the last generation that were prescribed these "drugs" to control their behavior in school, there is a small per centage that will go psychotic and do this sort of thing.... or become "gender fluid". Or what can simply be called "nuts!". But instead, it's the NRA that's causing school shootings.
Another image from the Iowa shooter’s now deleted tiktok account says “love your trans kids.” Watch this story disappear.
http://tinyurl.com/2cjkrexs
Nitter thread to see all of the images/screencaps.
Posted by: andycanuck
A lot of these "kids" (using the term loosely) were probably on Adderall or other childhood mood modifiers, which sometimes have a psychotic side effect.
In other words, all the kids of the last generation that were prescribed these "drugs" to control their behavior in school, there is a small per centage that will go psychotic and do this sort of thing.... or become "gender fluid". Or what can simply be called "nuts!". But instead, it's the NRA that's causing school shootings.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (vcOmj)
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Vivek for VP! Or some kind of position in a truly conservative admin where he can say, and act on, things like this.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (J2vNu)
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How coincidental, almost like the press works for the Democrats.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Or vice versa.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Or vice versa.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (GkGI9)
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Nobody will mention one of DeSantis' big donors has backed out and now supporting Trump.
The donor said DeSantis wouldn't even return a call for an update on the campaign.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (cMXNt)
I’ve posted it numerous times to point out that this formerly ‘ Deep State ‘ donor who had DeSantis in his pocket is now a Solid anti deep state guy because he’s switched support to Trump,
What time is your cult meeting?
The donor said DeSantis wouldn't even return a call for an update on the campaign.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (cMXNt)
I’ve posted it numerous times to point out that this formerly ‘ Deep State ‘ donor who had DeSantis in his pocket is now a Solid anti deep state guy because he’s switched support to Trump,
What time is your cult meeting?
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (MNhXM)
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There isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Klan and Antifa. They're the same thing: the armed street combat division of the Party.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (WkNQM)
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Antifa were mostly white suburban coddled douches. Think of the spoiled rich Marxist shitbags from the days of the SDS and the Weather Man Underground.
90% are LARPing as big bad Revolutionary heroes, mostly to get the dick, and pussy. 10% are real deal true believer Marxist Leninist wanna be Revolutionaries.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:06 PM (WkNQM)
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Antifa were mostly white suburban coddled douches. Think of the spoiled rich Marxist shitbags from the days of the SDS and the Weather Man Underground.
90% are LARPing as big bad Revolutionary heroes, mostly to get the dick, and pussy. 10% are real deal true believer Marxist Leninist wanna be Revolutionaries.
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (vhAjI)
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Totally OT but I'm out getting dog food and have discovered that there is a new hot yoga place next to the pet store. Very nice!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (c70gW)
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No, I'm not kidding you. From her perch at anti-Trump Fox News she boarded the Ron train before it went off the tracks. Doesn't matter how many times some people are told they don't seem to understand Trump. He values loyalty above all. It's why he's so angry at Ron and why he turns against everyone who he has helped who turns on him.
As if that's an excuse for such behavior. This is the behavior of an oriental despot, not a president.
As if that's an excuse for such behavior. This is the behavior of an oriental despot, not a president.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (CsUN+)
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I've had both lawyers. Unless I'm dealing with finances or trusts or some sort of mediation, I'd rather have the jerk that makes people uncomfortable.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (9cE5Q)
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190 The problem with Vivek is the same with Kari Lake. He's too combative and argumentative. We might like that style, but most people -- including even those who otherwise agree with him on the issues -- don't. Not at all. Vivek could have said exactly what he said but with a smile and less aggressively.
It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
Good grief. It's attitudes like this is why this nation is in this mess.
"That's not who we are". "His tweets are so mean". "Can't we all just get along?"
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (BdMk6)
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I think you missed my point. I said you can just as effectively make your points without being aggressive or argumentative. I didn't say back down or roll over. Just the opposite.
It's kinda how a lot of people want -- or think they want -- very aggressive lawyers. But that style makes it harder to settle, turns off judges and juries, and usually ultimately backfires. You can make your points forcefully and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
Good grief. It's attitudes like this is why this nation is in this mess.
"That's not who we are". "His tweets are so mean". "Can't we all just get along?"
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:12 PM (BdMk6)
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I think you missed my point. I said you can just as effectively make your points without being aggressive or argumentative. I didn't say back down or roll over. Just the opposite.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)
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I love Ramaswamy's response and his whole approach to these media whores but I don't believe for a minute this reporter regrets asking for a minute. She got what she wanted which is what Vivek says - that he won't condemn white supremacy.
Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (IFNME)
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Beware the quince!
Posted by: DaveA at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (FhXTo)
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> Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
Yep. Every single time "Patriot Front" goes for a stroll, all fifty them, they make national news.
The Feds had to make up a white supremacist group to meet their demand for more intrusive acts against "white supremacists" like run of the mill Catholics and parents at school board meetings who don't want gay porn in the school library.
Yep. Every single time "Patriot Front" goes for a stroll, all fifty them, they make national news.
The Feds had to make up a white supremacist group to meet their demand for more intrusive acts against "white supremacists" like run of the mill Catholics and parents at school board meetings who don't want gay porn in the school library.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (Odg76)
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This fallacy that only Trump can carry the ball forward, is a cultish, if not dangerous presumption.
Posted by: Marcus T
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We've seen him carry the ball, with no one blocking. You block for the guy who *is carrying* the ball and moving the chains.
That's not saying nobody else can carry the ball. But you start looking around for who *else* can carry the ball. And people don't get that status simply by being "somebody else".
Posted by: Marcus T
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We've seen him carry the ball, with no one blocking. You block for the guy who *is carrying* the ball and moving the chains.
That's not saying nobody else can carry the ball. But you start looking around for who *else* can carry the ball. And people don't get that status simply by being "somebody else".
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (krQz2)
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Very correct, dead on statement by Vivek. But too involved. I want the candidate who just takes any question from one of these people and just replies "Guess what? Fuck you, shitstain, that's what.
This is last one of these clownshows I'm attending. Find me on X. I'll take any questions from anyone who's not old media. Old media is old. And shitstain-y. If you have a relevant platform like a popular podcast, cash me outside.
I'll be happy to have you on to question me in front of the country, or come on your turf to do it. But I'm only talking to humans. No more shitstains."
This is last one of these clownshows I'm attending. Find me on X. I'll take any questions from anyone who's not old media. Old media is old. And shitstain-y. If you have a relevant platform like a popular podcast, cash me outside.
I'll be happy to have you on to question me in front of the country, or come on your turf to do it. But I'm only talking to humans. No more shitstains."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (0FoWg)
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yeah, I was gonna say, that is what Scalia said.
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[cough, cough] "Can't breathe... pil..." [cough, cough]???
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[cough, cough] "Can't breathe... pil..." [cough, cough]???
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (2yu8s)
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Cold yoga sucks.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (MvF+J)
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Ace, have you seen, or have you talked about the clip from last week, where Dave Smith was talking about the Nexis/Lexis searches that were done?
They show the elites in corporate media (including Wapo and NYT) had a dramatic spike in the use of terms that essentially constitute Woke Inc. It happened in 2012, when this spike was dramatic, and unexplainable by anything that was going on at the time, other than an intentional effort by corporate media to sew conflict and dissention in the public.
They show the elites in corporate media (including Wapo and NYT) had a dramatic spike in the use of terms that essentially constitute Woke Inc. It happened in 2012, when this spike was dramatic, and unexplainable by anything that was going on at the time, other than an intentional effort by corporate media to sew conflict and dissention in the public.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (dGCAG)
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219 The first one who stands up and begins discussing the 2020 steal and how to address it when they take office in 2024 will get my attention.
But instead it's like it's business as usual. Like it's 1996 or years before that. Just vote harder for these people who will top out at 52M votes, everyone!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (9cE5Q)
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Trump is the only one who seems to talk about it all that much. His solutions are trash (ballot harvesting! which might help in, like, two states), but he talks about it besides the fact that he's the symbol of that chicanery.
The problem is that a presidential candidate can't force the PA Secretary of State to follow the law anymore than Justice Alito could.
But instead it's like it's business as usual. Like it's 1996 or years before that. Just vote harder for these people who will top out at 52M votes, everyone!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (9cE5Q)
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Trump is the only one who seems to talk about it all that much. His solutions are trash (ballot harvesting! which might help in, like, two states), but he talks about it besides the fact that he's the symbol of that chicanery.
The problem is that a presidential candidate can't force the PA Secretary of State to follow the law anymore than Justice Alito could.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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209 "DeSantis is FAMOUSLY combative. You have to be a real fucking bubble-boy moron not to know that.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (KRtlO)"
Vivek was basically practicing argumentum ad DeSantis. He has been famously combative and pushed back since forever against the media narratives. It's been his hallmark. But the fanbois have been too busy trying to destroy him. Not just now, but even for the future because he hurt Trump's feelz. I can think of few things more petty or destructive to our future then bowing to a cult of personality. That's not leadership in any form I've ever seen. It's a self serving recipe for disaster.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (9NZQU)
Seems like a long-winded way of saying that DeSantis has good soundbites but struggles to circulate them or generate attention.
Getting around a media blockade is a necessary skill for the R candidate.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:09 PM (KRtlO)"
Vivek was basically practicing argumentum ad DeSantis. He has been famously combative and pushed back since forever against the media narratives. It's been his hallmark. But the fanbois have been too busy trying to destroy him. Not just now, but even for the future because he hurt Trump's feelz. I can think of few things more petty or destructive to our future then bowing to a cult of personality. That's not leadership in any form I've ever seen. It's a self serving recipe for disaster.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (9NZQU)
Seems like a long-winded way of saying that DeSantis has good soundbites but struggles to circulate them or generate attention.
Getting around a media blockade is a necessary skill for the R candidate.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Don Lemon at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (XeU6L)
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Yes, who are these other people to whom you allude?"
Posted by: Grammar Cops
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Why she who farts lightning and craps skittles of course Nikki Haley. Who is very polite and mannered.
Posted by: Grammar Cops
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Why she who farts lightning and craps skittles of course Nikki Haley. Who is very polite and mannered.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (HgGFf)
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>>Given what Trump did to Kayleigh McEnany, he'd be a fool to take the job.
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
We should also mention WHO Kayleigh has done.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (xcxpd)
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Was going to make a George Cuckway joke, but realized I confused her with Kellyanne Conway.
[Headline from last March:] "Former Trump aide Kellyanne Conway to divorce husband after 22 years.*
Odd that you don't mention what Kayleigh did to Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)
We should also mention WHO Kayleigh has done.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:10 PM (xcxpd)
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Was going to make a George Cuckway joke, but realized I confused her with Kellyanne Conway.
[Headline from last March:] "Former Trump aide Kellyanne Conway to divorce husband after 22 years.*
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (DjNoS)
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I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
OK, that's funny.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
OK, that's funny.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (CsUN+)
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200 15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why? ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Being generous with the counting, the KKK has an estimated 8,000 members. The Aryan Brotherhood - which is almost entirely institutional (prison) has an estimated 20,000 members. That's a total of 28,000.
Assume further - remember, I'm being generous - that the number of closet members is far greater. Let's call it 3:1. So that would be a total of around 112,000, including the institutional population. Let's round it up for convenience and call it 115,000 as a generous assumption.
90% of the true white supremacists would fit in LSU's Tiger Stadium. Nearly three times that number of illegal aliens crossed the border in December alone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (WkNQM)
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Technically, maybe. But I question those numbers. As I mentioned, if there really were so many of them -- outside of prison -- we'd be bombarded by pics and videos of them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Being generous with the counting, the KKK has an estimated 8,000 members. The Aryan Brotherhood - which is almost entirely institutional (prison) has an estimated 20,000 members. That's a total of 28,000.
Assume further - remember, I'm being generous - that the number of closet members is far greater. Let's call it 3:1. So that would be a total of around 112,000, including the institutional population. Let's round it up for convenience and call it 115,000 as a generous assumption.
90% of the true white supremacists would fit in LSU's Tiger Stadium. Nearly three times that number of illegal aliens crossed the border in December alone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (WkNQM)
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Technically, maybe. But I question those numbers. As I mentioned, if there really were so many of them -- outside of prison -- we'd be bombarded by pics and videos of them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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BREAKING: Perry High School sh**ter identified. This is allegedly his tiktok account which was already scrubbed. He posted this photo before the sh**ting from the school bathroom. He appears to be part of the LGBTQ community with the flag in his bio. In another post he put the hashtag #genderfluid.
No surprise. You knew it was something like that from the continued radio silence about who it was.
Insane people acting insane. Imagine that.
No surprise. You knew it was something like that from the continued radio silence about who it was.
Insane people acting insane. Imagine that.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (nFnyb)
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I firmly believe the way to handle aggressive media airheads firing gotcha questions is with equal aggressiveness and confidence that the reporters are stupid with nothing in their heads than a tiny handful of talking points.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
https://youtu.be/Xy3MtznDeqg?t=125 - metaphorically speaking, of course
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 01:48 PM (AN/rm)
https://youtu.be/Xy3MtznDeqg?t=125 - metaphorically speaking, of course
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (zhLdt)
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i wasn't going to post Trump demanding the beautiful FBI be given a beautiful new HQ in DC, but now I will.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (KRtlO)
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The first one who stands up and begins discussing the 2020 steal and how to address it when they take office in 2024 will get my attention.
But instead it's like it's business as usual. Like it's 1996 or years before that. Just vote harder for these people who will top out at 52M votes, everyone!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (9cE5Q)
Yes, that's what is so strange about this election. Vivek seems the only one to have internalized the lessons of Trump's success and the existential peril the base intuitively feels.
But instead it's like it's business as usual. Like it's 1996 or years before that. Just vote harder for these people who will top out at 52M votes, everyone!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (9cE5Q)
Yes, that's what is so strange about this election. Vivek seems the only one to have internalized the lessons of Trump's success and the existential peril the base intuitively feels.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (v6srk)
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OK, Roberts then. I guess I recall Scalia more on that subject ... Scalia was about putting blacks in easier schools where they would succeed, not advancing them beyond their capabilities, where they were set up to fail. (as in Prez' Gay, and thousands of others)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (Cus5s)
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This seems to be the evolution of the question : Do Black lives matter? You're crucified if you say "All lives Matter".
Posted by: WisRich at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (G0vdT)
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Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (ZLI7
I was in disagreement about it being a cult but you guys are definitely cult adjacent.
I was in disagreement about it being a cult but you guys are definitely cult adjacent.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (MNhXM)
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I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
The hymn will be A Mighty Fortress Is Our Trump.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
The hymn will be A Mighty Fortress Is Our Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (FVME7)
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Historical facts aren't anything like the ground you are standing on. Historical events can't be proven, they can only be proven to have equal documentation/grounds for believing when compared to all the other things we accept as history.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
And the Holocaust clearly meets that criterion.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
And the Holocaust clearly meets that criterion.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (9yWhg)
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I’ve posted it numerous times to point out that this formerly ‘ Deep State ‘ donor who had DeSantis in his pocket is now a Solid anti deep state guy because he’s switched support to Trump,
What time is your cult meeting?
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (MNhXM)
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Like I said, 7:30 pm tonight.
What time is your cult meeting?
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:16 PM (MNhXM)
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Like I said, 7:30 pm tonight.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (cMXNt)
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Odd that all city states are basically organized crime and the FBI protects them from, allegedly, 15k Klansmen.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (LVNnd)
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"He values loyalty above all. It's why he's so angry at Ron and why he turns against everyone who he has helped who turns on him.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (ZLI7S)"
I really like you, but this is one of the stupidest things you've ever said. Trump has left a wreckage of bodies from people he's "trusted" or were "loyal". To the point I question any pick he makes and lean that people he perhaps doesn't trust may be good picks.
DeSantis running and being a strong candidate is good for the party. Not just now, but for the future. Meanwhile Man-Baby Trump got his feelz hurt because Ron didn't kiss his ass. You know what? Fuck Trump and all those around him telling him this is a good idea, and trying to wreck DeSantis. It definitely doesn't improve our chances now and on the future. But only a real leader would know that, and be magnanimous enough to step up and have that debate in a way that shows your strengths and the weaknesses of other. But that would actually take someone who could make a material, factual, meaningful argument. Not throw pejoratives and ad hominems like a 10 year old diaper boy.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (ZLI7S)"
I really like you, but this is one of the stupidest things you've ever said. Trump has left a wreckage of bodies from people he's "trusted" or were "loyal". To the point I question any pick he makes and lean that people he perhaps doesn't trust may be good picks.
DeSantis running and being a strong candidate is good for the party. Not just now, but for the future. Meanwhile Man-Baby Trump got his feelz hurt because Ron didn't kiss his ass. You know what? Fuck Trump and all those around him telling him this is a good idea, and trying to wreck DeSantis. It definitely doesn't improve our chances now and on the future. But only a real leader would know that, and be magnanimous enough to step up and have that debate in a way that shows your strengths and the weaknesses of other. But that would actually take someone who could make a material, factual, meaningful argument. Not throw pejoratives and ad hominems like a 10 year old diaper boy.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (9NZQU)
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Bucknell’s English department appears to be having trouble filling such classes as “Latinx Theater,” “Sex, Sexuality, and Rape Culture in the 18th Century,” and “Affrilachia: Regional Literature, Race, and Power.”
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (RHGPo)
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What is the number of "studies" graduates in this country?
Condemn them for being the proponents of divisiveness and discord that they are.
Shame them for their inability to mount cogent and reasoned arguments for their cause(s).
Bowl them over when they revert to their one hole card -- slapping an "-ist" label of some sort on anyone who bests them in an argument.
Laugh at their limp-wristed "protest" "chants".
Say THEIR name(s):
bigots
segregationists
censors
What is the number of "studies" graduates in this country?
Condemn them for being the proponents of divisiveness and discord that they are.
Shame them for their inability to mount cogent and reasoned arguments for their cause(s).
Bowl them over when they revert to their one hole card -- slapping an "-ist" label of some sort on anyone who bests them in an argument.
Laugh at their limp-wristed "protest" "chants".
Say THEIR name(s):
bigots
segregationists
censors
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (xG4kz)
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I love Ramaswamy's response and his whole approach to these media whores but I don't believe for a minute this reporter regrets asking for a minute. She got what she wanted which is what Vivek says - that he won't condemn white supremacy.
Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (IFNME)
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#1 I *LOVE* Vivek's answers and seeming ability to think on his feet.
#2 I sometimes wonder how many of these *might* be plants. Which could also cause this effect.
Not that I think the reporter is at all a plant--doing what reporters these days do--besides rushing press releases from Hamas straight to the cameras, and then shrugging "We didn't know at the time."
Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (IFNME)
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#1 I *LOVE* Vivek's answers and seeming ability to think on his feet.
#2 I sometimes wonder how many of these *might* be plants. Which could also cause this effect.
Not that I think the reporter is at all a plant--doing what reporters these days do--besides rushing press releases from Hamas straight to the cameras, and then shrugging "We didn't know at the time."
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (krQz2)
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Tomorrow is my last day at work as I retiring.
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (gmo/4)
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>>As if that's an excuse for such behavior. This is the behavior of an oriental despot, not a president.
Dumb. Trump has been hounded by a real wannabe dictator and his corrupt, weaponized government for 7 years and instead of backing Trump Ron ran for cover. That's the sign of a coward not a president.
Trump is going to win. Time to come to grips with what has been obvious since the start of the campaign.
It is going to take a tough SOB to beat the corrupt left not a pinkies out, blow in the wind opportunist.
Dumb. Trump has been hounded by a real wannabe dictator and his corrupt, weaponized government for 7 years and instead of backing Trump Ron ran for cover. That's the sign of a coward not a president.
Trump is going to win. Time to come to grips with what has been obvious since the start of the campaign.
It is going to take a tough SOB to beat the corrupt left not a pinkies out, blow in the wind opportunist.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (ZLI7S)
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Trump has been taking thermonuclear fire from both the left and the GOPe since 2015, and he still walks with his head high.
But, yeah, we are supposed to take a gamble with Ron in the hope that he is just as tough.
The proper response is to get behind trump as he smashes through the line because, yes - he is Teflon Don. Accept it, use it and take the objective which is to save the Republic from the globalist leftists who would subjugate us for their own power and wealth.
But no. Ron kicked Disney in the nads. He could prolly do that to Joe, too!
But, yeah, we are supposed to take a gamble with Ron in the hope that he is just as tough.
The proper response is to get behind trump as he smashes through the line because, yes - he is Teflon Don. Accept it, use it and take the objective which is to save the Republic from the globalist leftists who would subjugate us for their own power and wealth.
But no. Ron kicked Disney in the nads. He could prolly do that to Joe, too!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (NYzgN)
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I just bought a 50ft cabin cruiser with my Trump Troll shitposting check. What are you guys spending yours on?
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Mine's in Canadian dollars so I can only afford a Starbucks' Stanley Cup coffee thermos.
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Mine's in Canadian dollars so I can only afford a Starbucks' Stanley Cup coffee thermos.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (2yu8s)
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I hope there will be Trump ribs too
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (VTu1l)
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And chicken and Trumplings.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:14 PM (VTu1l)
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And chicken and Trumplings.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (xYckV)
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Okay we have Biden VS Trump or Haley, or DeSantis , or Vivek , or Christie or a remote RFK jr. Is this the best we can do ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (n2vyf)
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The problem is that a presidential candidate can't force the PA Secretary of State to follow the law anymore than Justice Alito could.
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I'd be satisfied if some federal level (R)s acknowledged that 2020 happened.
Heck, the SCOTUS themselves not only stepped down and said "nah, we good" when Texas tried to act within their rights, but they stepped down prior when they told PA to stop doing something and PA told them to get f*cked.
I'd be satisfied if we just had some folks who would acknowledge that reality existed.
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I'd be satisfied if some federal level (R)s acknowledged that 2020 happened.
Heck, the SCOTUS themselves not only stepped down and said "nah, we good" when Texas tried to act within their rights, but they stepped down prior when they told PA to stop doing something and PA told them to get f*cked.
I'd be satisfied if we just had some folks who would acknowledge that reality existed.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (9cE5Q)
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Technically, maybe. But I question those numbers. As I mentioned, if there really were so many of them -- outside of prison -- we'd be bombarded by pics and videos of them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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I doubt it's that high. I'm trying to be as generous as possible with the numbers while being at least vaguely grounded in reality.
Even with that generosity, it comes out as a non-problem. You need scientific notation to express it as a percentage of the population.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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I doubt it's that high. I'm trying to be as generous as possible with the numbers while being at least vaguely grounded in reality.
Even with that generosity, it comes out as a non-problem. You need scientific notation to express it as a percentage of the population.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (WkNQM)
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260 Tomorrow is my last day at work as I retiring.
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (gmo/4)
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Call me when you cover your body in sandtrout.
And congrats!
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (gmo/4)
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Call me when you cover your body in sandtrout.
And congrats!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
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231 Beware the quince!
Posted by: DaveA at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (FhXTo)
I've started putting quince paste on toast. It's good.
I blame L. E. Modesitt
Posted by: DaveA at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (FhXTo)
I've started putting quince paste on toast. It's good.
I blame L. E. Modesitt
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
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Good grief. It's attitudes like this is why this nation is in this mess.
"That's not who we are". "His tweets are so mean". "Can't we all just get along?"
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
This country, the United States of America, is literally circling the drain culturally, politically, and probably soon economically.
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in defense of justice is no virtue" - Barry Goldwater
Let's be nice!
"That's not who we are". "His tweets are so mean". "Can't we all just get along?"
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
This country, the United States of America, is literally circling the drain culturally, politically, and probably soon economically.
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in defense of justice is no virtue" - Barry Goldwater
Let's be nice!
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (vcOmj)
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I'd like to attend the Trump cult meeting but my Trump shrine needs some attending to; more candles, flowers, fountain, a dusty relic - all takes time.
I'd like to attend the Trump cult meeting but my Trump shrine needs some attending to; more candles, flowers, fountain, a dusty relic - all takes time.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (3qE2b)
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Ace, have you seen, or have you talked about the clip from last week, where Dave Smith was talking about the Nexis/Lexis searches that were done?
They show the elites in corporate media (including Wapo and NYT) had a dramatic spike in the use of terms that essentially constitute Woke Inc. It happened in 2012, when this spike was dramatic, and unexplainable by anything that was going on at the time, other than an intentional effort by corporate media to sew conflict and dissention in the public.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (dGCAG)
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They show the elites in corporate media (including Wapo and NYT) had a dramatic spike in the use of terms that essentially constitute Woke Inc. It happened in 2012, when this spike was dramatic, and unexplainable by anything that was going on at the time, other than an intentional effort by corporate media to sew conflict and dissention in the public.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (dGCAG)
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Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (DjNoS)
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This leggy brunette in yellow really likes it when people are cruel to journalists - because while she tries her hardest, she still understands that she doesn't hate journalists enough:
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (WkNQM)
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266 I'd be satisfied if some federal level (R)s acknowledged that 2020 happened.
Heck, the SCOTUS themselves not only stepped down and said "nah, we good" when Texas tried to act within their rights, but they stepped down prior when they told PA to stop doing something and PA told them to get f*cked.
I'd be satisfied if we just had some folks who would acknowledge that reality existed.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (9cE5Q)
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Which is why it's so frustrating to see candidates in every race across America just...ignore the issue. It's highly important to the base, but no one will address it.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Heck, the SCOTUS themselves not only stepped down and said "nah, we good" when Texas tried to act within their rights, but they stepped down prior when they told PA to stop doing something and PA told them to get f*cked.
I'd be satisfied if we just had some folks who would acknowledge that reality existed.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (9cE5Q)
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Which is why it's so frustrating to see candidates in every race across America just...ignore the issue. It's highly important to the base, but no one will address it.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (gmo/4)
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>>As if that's an excuse for such behavior. This is the behavior of an oriental despot, not a president.
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All things considered, I would prefer Trump be surrounded by loyalists and yes men/women/theymen than to spend another 4 years pulling the knives out of his back
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All things considered, I would prefer Trump be surrounded by loyalists and yes men/women/theymen than to spend another 4 years pulling the knives out of his back
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (VTu1l)
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I'd like to attend the Trump cult meeting but my Trump shrine needs some attending to; more candles, flowers, fountain, a dusty relic - all takes time.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (3qE2b)
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You sound like a listless vessel.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (3qE2b)
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You sound like a listless vessel.
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (DjNoS)
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Congrats, Archer.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (R4t5M)
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i wasn't going to post Trump demanding the beautiful FBI be given a beautiful new HQ in DC, but now I will.
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you can add Trump's new grand election battleground strategy to that as well. Which is , and I quote, "One of the other things I’m going to do — and I may be foolish in doing it — is I’m going to make a heavy play for New York, heavy play for New Jersey, heavy play for Virginia, heavy play for New Mexico, and a heavy play for a state that hasn’t been won in years, Minnesota ".
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you can add Trump's new grand election battleground strategy to that as well. Which is , and I quote, "One of the other things I’m going to do — and I may be foolish in doing it — is I’m going to make a heavy play for New York, heavy play for New Jersey, heavy play for Virginia, heavy play for New Mexico, and a heavy play for a state that hasn’t been won in years, Minnesota ".
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (V13WU)
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275 Thanks TJM. Our enemies run in fear as I approach.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (gmo/4)
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I need a long political economy speech about how your tyranny will lead to the Golden Path.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (gmo/4)
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I need a long political economy speech about how your tyranny will lead to the Golden Path.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Congrats on your retirement, Archer.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (9yWhg)
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But for some reason he moderated the very positions that would have put him ahead, i guess to play towards the middle. He has chosen... poorly.
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He had a very narrow window to win the nomination from Trump, attracting his supporters by being to Trump's right.
That's the one reason I supported him running.
He did not.
He has chosen to attack Trump from the Reasonable Republican center.
But somehow, the failure of the campaign that hired Chris Christie's campaign manager, that goes to Erick Erickson for exclusive interviews, that racks up endorsements from bona-fide RINOs-- the failure of that campaign to attract Trump supporters is because "they're all cultists and spread nasty sexual lies about DeSantis!"
Yeah.
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He had a very narrow window to win the nomination from Trump, attracting his supporters by being to Trump's right.
That's the one reason I supported him running.
He did not.
He has chosen to attack Trump from the Reasonable Republican center.
But somehow, the failure of the campaign that hired Chris Christie's campaign manager, that goes to Erick Erickson for exclusive interviews, that racks up endorsements from bona-fide RINOs-- the failure of that campaign to attract Trump supporters is because "they're all cultists and spread nasty sexual lies about DeSantis!"
Yeah.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (TzW+Y)
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It's coming up on 3:00 PM EST, so it's time to shout out paeans to Big T's "big, beautiful vaccine(s)"
It's coming up on 3:00 PM EST, so it's time to shout out paeans to Big T's "big, beautiful vaccine(s)"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (xG4kz)
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You sound like a listless vessel.
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (DjNoS)
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Better than a listing vessel!
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (DjNoS)
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Better than a listing vessel!
Posted by: Oh shit, I'm about to capsize! at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (WkNQM)
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I think it was more of an annihilate than a demolish, but that's just me.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (cMXNt)
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267 Technically, maybe. But I question those numbers. As I mentioned, if there really were so many of them -- outside of prison -- we'd be bombarded by pics and videos of them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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I doubt it's that high. I'm trying to be as generous as possible with the numbers while being at least vaguely grounded in reality.
Even with that generosity, it comes out as a non-problem. You need scientific notation to express it as a percentage of the population.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (WkNQM)
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And they have less than zero political power or influence. To the contrary, they are the most shat-on, despised, laughed at, and ignored demographic in the country.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
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I doubt it's that high. I'm trying to be as generous as possible with the numbers while being at least vaguely grounded in reality.
Even with that generosity, it comes out as a non-problem. You need scientific notation to express it as a percentage of the population.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:21 PM (WkNQM)
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And they have less than zero political power or influence. To the contrary, they are the most shat-on, despised, laughed at, and ignored demographic in the country.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (iFTx/)
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But only a real leader would know that, and be magnanimous enough to step up and have that debate
Yeah, there's a problem about debates...
Dumb. Trump has been hounded by a real wannabe dictator and his corrupt, weaponized government for 7 years and instead of backing Trump Ron ran for cover. That's the sign of a coward not a president.
If Trump can't differentiate between the people who attacked him for 7 years, and the person who ably defended him against those attacks, it doesn't speak highly of him or his suitability. I wonder why he can't attract quality people.
As to DeSantis, you're right, it's clear that he has avoided controversy every step of the way during his governorship.
*rolls eyes*
Yeah, there's a problem about debates...
Dumb. Trump has been hounded by a real wannabe dictator and his corrupt, weaponized government for 7 years and instead of backing Trump Ron ran for cover. That's the sign of a coward not a president.
If Trump can't differentiate between the people who attacked him for 7 years, and the person who ably defended him against those attacks, it doesn't speak highly of him or his suitability. I wonder why he can't attract quality people.
As to DeSantis, you're right, it's clear that he has avoided controversy every step of the way during his governorship.
*rolls eyes*
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:25 PM (CsUN+)
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Which is why it's so frustrating to see candidates in every race across America just...ignore the issue. It's highly important to the base, but no one will address it.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Yep.
We can have an (R) president that an (R) Congress will not get along with, or we can have an (R) President that an (R) Congress will support and work with.
The weird part is realizing which president is better for America.
Which is why it's so frustrating to see candidates in every race across America just...ignore the issue. It's highly important to the base, but no one will address it.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Yep.
We can have an (R) president that an (R) Congress will not get along with, or we can have an (R) President that an (R) Congress will support and work with.
The weird part is realizing which president is better for America.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:25 PM (9cE5Q)
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Yea the stupid Stanley cup thing is the latest influencer-created craze for frustrated, unhappy, status-desperate women. It's a fucking thermos! Get a fucking life!
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (iFTx/)
You want a Stanley cup, you gotta play better hockey than those other bastards.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (iFTx/)
You want a Stanley cup, you gotta play better hockey than those other bastards.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 04, 2024 02:25 PM (tkR6S)
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"The proper response is to get behind trump as he smashes through the line because, yes - he is Teflon Don. Accept it, use it and take the objective which is to save the Republic from the globalist leftists who would subjugate us for their own power and wealth."
Our only and best hope.
Our only and best hope.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:25 PM (v6srk)
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Vivek was basically practicing argumentum ad DeSantis. He has been famously combative and pushed back since forever against the media narratives. It's been his hallmark.
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Well, in fairness, I'm more a dealing with the press with a big stick. Maybe a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.
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Well, in fairness, I'm more a dealing with the press with a big stick. Maybe a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:25 PM (FVME7)
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So who were blacks attacking in 156 cities in 1968?
a) Confederate Statues
b) Klu Klux Klansmen
c) Neo NAZIs
d) White Supremacists
e) Jewish merchants catering to a black clientele offering easy credit and usurious rates of interest
BTW - there were 2 riots in the South - Atlanta and Birmingham. There were 2 in California - Watts and Oakland. The other 152 riots were in northeast and midwest.
a) Confederate Statues
b) Klu Klux Klansmen
c) Neo NAZIs
d) White Supremacists
e) Jewish merchants catering to a black clientele offering easy credit and usurious rates of interest
BTW - there were 2 riots in the South - Atlanta and Birmingham. There were 2 in California - Watts and Oakland. The other 152 riots were in northeast and midwest.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:25 PM (LVNnd)
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I am a lawyer. I know what is effective in court and with judges and juries.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
Lawyers in the family. I know the ones who are good, the ones who are great, and the ones that piss everyone off.
Nice is for contracts and family law.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
Lawyers in the family. I know the ones who are good, the ones who are great, and the ones that piss everyone off.
Nice is for contracts and family law.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (D7oie)
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I still miss Fred.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (z/ifB)
He never took a shit without a plan.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (aD39U)
Fred was Russian?
Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2024 01:52 PM (z/ifB)
He never took a shit without a plan.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (aD39U)
Fred was Russian?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (zhLdt)
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Then can they step up and make themselves known? Because I'm not seeing it. Not from any of them.
Posted by: rickb223
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Amateur supporters of a candidacy often become upset as a campaign swirls the drain usually because those supporters hate to admit that other voters see it differently. I can name quite a few people that might have made a decent president but crashed and burned over a poorly run campaign. Scott Walker for example. But, one of the major issues in teh GOP party is that the big donors and their associated elites want far different policies (endless wars and endless immigration along with hoovering up every last dollar of the middle class) than do the GOP voters.
The Dems have similar issues since the oligarchs have taken over that party and made it a skin suit for their interests and those oligarch/donors constitute the Uniparty. The Dem coalition elites are bound by hatred of white males, massive government spending, and identity politics where the Dem party used to pose as being for the little guy economically.
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Amateur supporters of a candidacy often become upset as a campaign swirls the drain usually because those supporters hate to admit that other voters see it differently. I can name quite a few people that might have made a decent president but crashed and burned over a poorly run campaign. Scott Walker for example. But, one of the major issues in teh GOP party is that the big donors and their associated elites want far different policies (endless wars and endless immigration along with hoovering up every last dollar of the middle class) than do the GOP voters.
The Dems have similar issues since the oligarchs have taken over that party and made it a skin suit for their interests and those oligarch/donors constitute the Uniparty. The Dem coalition elites are bound by hatred of white males, massive government spending, and identity politics where the Dem party used to pose as being for the little guy economically.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (8IKKJ)
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And they have less than zero political power or influence. To the contrary, they are the most shat-on, despised, laughed at, and ignored demographic in the country.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (iFTx/)
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Yup.
It ain't about them. As Ace and various others have been pointing out for years, it's about the normals. Just call them that and then attack.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (iFTx/)
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Yup.
It ain't about them. As Ace and various others have been pointing out for years, it's about the normals. Just call them that and then attack.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (WkNQM)
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This leggy brunette in yellow really likes it when people are cruel to journalists - because while she tries her hardest, she still understands that she doesn't hate journalists enough:
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Boy, those are some stupid shoes.
Nice calf muscles, though.
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Boy, those are some stupid shoes.
Nice calf muscles, though.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (9yWhg)
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i wasn't going to post Trump demanding the beautiful FBI be given a beautiful new HQ in DC, but now I will.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (KRtlO)
It was poorly written but what he's actually saying is the fvckers in the FIB get to stay in the beautiful city of Washington, DC.
Someone should have proofread what was written.
i wasn't going to post Trump demanding the beautiful FBI be given a beautiful new HQ in DC, but now I will.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:19 PM (KRtlO)
It was poorly written but what he's actually saying is the fvckers in the FIB get to stay in the beautiful city of Washington, DC.
Someone should have proofread what was written.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (3qE2b)
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I need a long political economy speech about how your tyranny will lead to the Golden Path.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
Speech follows:
My fellow Patriots, lock and load. Let's roll.
End of transmission
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
Speech follows:
My fellow Patriots, lock and load. Let's roll.
End of transmission
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (gmo/4)
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These ankle-biting little rats in media, academia and government, for all their institutional power, have zero moral authority over us and we need to throw that in their face every chance we get. Amazing how, just by not being a fucking pussy and having actual thoughts in your head that you can articulate, you can so easily defy their bad-faith attempts to trap you in their disingenuous moral frame.
Every time I see some retarded weak midwit CoNsErVaTiVe stammering to justify himself to these lying worms like this reporter I want to punch the fucking wall. These people are not only morally bankrupt but also have never had an original thought in their life. Reminder: they support taking your children from you and sexually mutilating them because of some magical idea of "gender." They're miserable, cowardly, degenerate, spiritually lost, drug-addicted losers. All you have to do is call their bluff and laugh in their face. We don't need to justify shit to them.
This is the mentality our people need to adopt immediately.
Every time I see some retarded weak midwit CoNsErVaTiVe stammering to justify himself to these lying worms like this reporter I want to punch the fucking wall. These people are not only morally bankrupt but also have never had an original thought in their life. Reminder: they support taking your children from you and sexually mutilating them because of some magical idea of "gender." They're miserable, cowardly, degenerate, spiritually lost, drug-addicted losers. All you have to do is call their bluff and laugh in their face. We don't need to justify shit to them.
This is the mentality our people need to adopt immediately.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (0Uf+z)
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"Seems like a long-winded way of saying that DeSantis has good soundbites but struggles to circulate them or generate attention.
Getting around a media blockade is a necessary skill for the R candidate.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (eYoxG)"
I don't disagree that DeSantis needed to better articulate his points and grow in that respect. The media being against him is a given, but I think the assist being provided by Trump and his people leaned more towards all out destruction and personal attack, then a defeat on substance. But then, that's Trump, lots of words and pejoratives, not much substance.
BTW, missed you on the discussion the other day regarding "Immanuel" the other day (Matthew 1:22-23 vs Isaiah 7:14). I think you're the one whose deep on some of that?
Getting around a media blockade is a necessary skill for the R candidate.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:18 PM (eYoxG)"
I don't disagree that DeSantis needed to better articulate his points and grow in that respect. The media being against him is a given, but I think the assist being provided by Trump and his people leaned more towards all out destruction and personal attack, then a defeat on substance. But then, that's Trump, lots of words and pejoratives, not much substance.
BTW, missed you on the discussion the other day regarding "Immanuel" the other day (Matthew 1:22-23 vs Isaiah 7:14). I think you're the one whose deep on some of that?
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (9NZQU)
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News of the future!
Sep15, 2024 Tallahassee: A 4th accuser has come forward to accuse GOP presidential candidate Ron Desantis of rape while they were deployed together in Iraq.....
Sep 24, 2024 Tallahassee FL: As part of the divorce filing, Casey Desantis has applied for a restraining order on behalf of her children alleging he sexually and physically abuses them....
Sep 30, 2024 Tallahassee FL: With only weeks until the national election, Ron Desantis has dropped out, citing a need to put his family first.
Sep15, 2024 Tallahassee: A 4th accuser has come forward to accuse GOP presidential candidate Ron Desantis of rape while they were deployed together in Iraq.....
Sep 24, 2024 Tallahassee FL: As part of the divorce filing, Casey Desantis has applied for a restraining order on behalf of her children alleging he sexually and physically abuses them....
Sep 30, 2024 Tallahassee FL: With only weeks until the national election, Ron Desantis has dropped out, citing a need to put his family first.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (NYzgN)
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Call me when you cover your body in sandtrout.
And congrats!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
Do I understand correctly that they are making Dune Messiah?
And congrats!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
Do I understand correctly that they are making Dune Messiah?
Posted by: browndog unearthing eternal truths at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (TTAGa)
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This leggy brunette in yellow really likes it when people are cruel to journalists - because while she tries her hardest, she still understands that she doesn't hate journalists enough:
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (WkNQM)
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Another one who doesn't skip legs & squats day!
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (WkNQM)
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Another one who doesn't skip legs & squats day!
Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (DjNoS)
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I doubt I'll ever retire Archer but big congrats to you for reaching a finish line.
What are your new hobbies going to be
What are your new hobbies going to be
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (xcxpd)
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>>If Trump can't differentiate between the people who attacked him for 7 years, and the person who ably defended him against those attacks, it doesn't speak highly of him or his suitability. I wonder why he can't attract quality people.
You know what speaks poorly of Ron? He has spent $100 million losing support in this campaign. Maybe, just maybe, you should be a bit more focused on what Ron is doing wrong.
You know what speaks poorly of Ron? He has spent $100 million losing support in this campaign. Maybe, just maybe, you should be a bit more focused on what Ron is doing wrong.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (ZLI7S)
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Congrats, Archer! Enjoy your life of Saturdays!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (WkNQM)
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This leggy brunette in yellow really likes it when people are cruel to journalists - because while she tries her hardest, she still understands that she doesn't hate journalists enough:
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (WkNQM)
She must be a dancer
http://tiny.cc/g5gsvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (WkNQM)
She must be a dancer
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (xcxpd)
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303 Do I understand correctly that they are making Dune Messiah?
Posted by: browndog unearthing eternal truths at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (TTAGa)
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The script is written and the project has been greenlit.
I'm sure actors have all signed contracts that take them through at least three films (that's fairly standard on franchise contracts now). It could be more.
WB could always pull the plug if Dune 2 doesn't make that much, though.
Posted by: browndog unearthing eternal truths at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (TTAGa)
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The script is written and the project has been greenlit.
I'm sure actors have all signed contracts that take them through at least three films (that's fairly standard on franchise contracts now). It could be more.
WB could always pull the plug if Dune 2 doesn't make that much, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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wasn't going to post Trump demanding the beautiful FBI be given a beautiful new HQ in DC, but now I will.
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It's already been passed in congress right?
What is DeSantis position on that? Asking because I don't know.
Tell me magical tales of how he is going sweep aside the bureaucracy and dismantle the FBI brick by brick. And defund PBS.
There is no political solution. 🎵
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It's already been passed in congress right?
What is DeSantis position on that? Asking because I don't know.
Tell me magical tales of how he is going sweep aside the bureaucracy and dismantle the FBI brick by brick. And defund PBS.
There is no political solution. 🎵
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (HgGFf)
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Which is why it's so frustrating to see candidates in every race across America just...ignore the issue. It's highly important to the base, but no one will address it.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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The Republican leadership prefers to be in the minority, less work. They are in safe seats so who cares?
Also please donate to stop socialism.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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The Republican leadership prefers to be in the minority, less work. They are in safe seats so who cares?
Also please donate to stop socialism.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (cMXNt)
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All you have to do is call their bluff and laugh in their face. We don't need to justify shit to them.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (0Uf+z)
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Best commenter on the site.
Good to see you.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (0Uf+z)
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Best commenter on the site.
Good to see you.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (9cE5Q)
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Retirement rocks!
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (MvF+J)
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Historical events can't be proven, they can only be proven to have equal documentation/grounds for believing when compared to all the other things we accept as history.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
And the Holocaust clearly meets that criterion.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (9yWhg)
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Can you show me where I implied it didn't?
But again, just like a creedal statement it an expression of a belief by which the rest of the group assigns a standing of goodwill to you. I can feel it even discussing it at any point.
Like I said, it's far more easy to deny that any creedal statement we demand is not really a creedal statement.
I used to believe mainly that there is no reason to infer malignancy where ignorance can sufficiently explain things.
Then I discovered that ignorance combined with arrogance--like the people who plead that they "didn't know" how ineffective The Jab was while they were saying you should sign away all healthcare rights as a consequence to not bowing to Science.
(cont)
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)
And the Holocaust clearly meets that criterion.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (9yWhg)
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Can you show me where I implied it didn't?
But again, just like a creedal statement it an expression of a belief by which the rest of the group assigns a standing of goodwill to you. I can feel it even discussing it at any point.
Like I said, it's far more easy to deny that any creedal statement we demand is not really a creedal statement.
I used to believe mainly that there is no reason to infer malignancy where ignorance can sufficiently explain things.
Then I discovered that ignorance combined with arrogance--like the people who plead that they "didn't know" how ineffective The Jab was while they were saying you should sign away all healthcare rights as a consequence to not bowing to Science.
(cont)
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (krQz2)
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Trump’s SOS Pompeo who the Trump supporters hailed as one of Trump’s good picks , was asked early on if he was going to support a Trump presidential run . His reply was ‘ God no’ .
That should give pause to everyone .
It does to me but Biden and the Left give me more concerning pauses so I’ll end up supporting and voting for Trump a third time if he’s the nominee.
That should give pause to everyone .
It does to me but Biden and the Left give me more concerning pauses so I’ll end up supporting and voting for Trump a third time if he’s the nominee.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (MNhXM)
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293 I am a lawyer. I know what is effective in court and with judges and juries.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
Lawyers in the family. I know the ones who are good, the ones who are great, and the ones that piss everyone off.
Nice is for contracts and family law.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Legal cultures differ greatly among the states and what will fly in one state gets hammered in another and then your trial judge and the legal task at hand also make a difference (like civil versus criminal). Then even within states, you have local and hired guns from outside the local legal culture. Some interesting research done there but you won't find much of it in law journals.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
Lawyers in the family. I know the ones who are good, the ones who are great, and the ones that piss everyone off.
Nice is for contracts and family law.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Legal cultures differ greatly among the states and what will fly in one state gets hammered in another and then your trial judge and the legal task at hand also make a difference (like civil versus criminal). Then even within states, you have local and hired guns from outside the local legal culture. Some interesting research done there but you won't find much of it in law journals.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (8IKKJ)
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>>>290 "The proper response is to get behind trump as he smashes through the line because, yes - he is Teflon Don. Accept it, use it and take the objective which is to save the Republic from the globalist leftists who would subjugate us for their own power and wealth."
Our only and best hope.
teflon don except for the 60% disapproval rate
oh I know, now you'll site his polls WITHIN THE GOP, while ignoring the 60% disapproval with the general election populace
The claim is that the election was "stolen" from a man with a 60% disapproval rate.
And trump was unable to stop them. In fact, he could have lodged lawsuits to stop, for example, Pennsylvania changing the election rules without the legislature, but decided he would just grouse on twitter instead.
So the man that the left has already successfully stolen an election from is our "only hope" of winning an election, and then not having the left do exactly what Trump permitted them to do successfully already.
Our only and best hope.
teflon don except for the 60% disapproval rate
oh I know, now you'll site his polls WITHIN THE GOP, while ignoring the 60% disapproval with the general election populace
The claim is that the election was "stolen" from a man with a 60% disapproval rate.
And trump was unable to stop them. In fact, he could have lodged lawsuits to stop, for example, Pennsylvania changing the election rules without the legislature, but decided he would just grouse on twitter instead.
So the man that the left has already successfully stolen an election from is our "only hope" of winning an election, and then not having the left do exactly what Trump permitted them to do successfully already.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
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actually, you are right elric, IIRC Cruz says he got a number of items through the Supreme Court by being reasonable, soothing and managing at one point to lull Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg to sleep.
I never figured he was particularly nice, or not tenacious.
I never figured he was particularly nice, or not tenacious.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (D7oie)
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I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who I think would have a Trump shrine; I just think they prefer him as a candidate. The "Trump shrine" stuff sounds like leftist who suggest Trump supporters worship him. As far as being "nice" I think candidates need to be as combative as Vivek is; I just think that people who are conservatives could try not to beat people over the head who don't support their particular candidate, whether that's Trump or DeSantis or Vivek.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (RSbhh)
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317 And trump was unable to stop them. In fact, he could have lodged lawsuits to stop, for example, Pennsylvania changing the election rules without the legislature, but decided he would just grouse on twitter instead.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
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It's my understand that there were lawsuits filed beforehand, but they were dismissed because no harm had been done yet.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
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It's my understand that there were lawsuits filed beforehand, but they were dismissed because no harm had been done yet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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I'd like to remind all Trump cultists we have a meeting tonight at 7:30pm for Trump worship. Tonight's sermon is about the miracle of Trump Steaks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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The hymn will be A Mighty Fortress Is Our Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024
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Followed by "Our Melania Has an Awesome Bod"!
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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The hymn will be A Mighty Fortress Is Our Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024
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Followed by "Our Melania Has an Awesome Bod"!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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the failure of that campaign to attract Trump supporters is because "they're all cultists
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What annoys me is that Im perfectly willing to concede that Trump has said some blindedly and obvious stupid things about DeSantis, and who still thinks the vax was awesome because it was his baby, who moronically endorsed McCarthy, etc.
But DeSantis supporters, at least none that I have seen so far will not admit, AT ALL, that he has run a poor campaign and fatally miscalculated his strategy of how to entice trump supporters over, having simply decided they're all cultists who spend time fapping over each other at truth social, and thus NOTHING THAT DESANTIS COULD DO WILL EVER WIN THEM OVER, AMEN.
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What annoys me is that Im perfectly willing to concede that Trump has said some blindedly and obvious stupid things about DeSantis, and who still thinks the vax was awesome because it was his baby, who moronically endorsed McCarthy, etc.
But DeSantis supporters, at least none that I have seen so far will not admit, AT ALL, that he has run a poor campaign and fatally miscalculated his strategy of how to entice trump supporters over, having simply decided they're all cultists who spend time fapping over each other at truth social, and thus NOTHING THAT DESANTIS COULD DO WILL EVER WIN THEM OVER, AMEN.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (VTu1l)
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293 I am a lawyer. I know what is effective in court and with judges and juries.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
Lawyers in the family. I know the ones who are good, the ones who are great, and the ones that piss everyone off.
Nice is for contracts and family law.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (D7oie)
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I didn't say be "nice." I said you can make your case strongly and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative. Whenever opposing counsel gets up and starts his aggressive "this is outrageous" posturing, I know he's given me an advantage. I can see the judge thinking "this guy is an asshole, I don't like him." Juries think the same thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
Lawyers in the family. I know the ones who are good, the ones who are great, and the ones that piss everyone off.
Nice is for contracts and family law.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:26 PM (D7oie)
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I didn't say be "nice." I said you can make your case strongly and persuasively without being aggressive or argumentative. Whenever opposing counsel gets up and starts his aggressive "this is outrageous" posturing, I know he's given me an advantage. I can see the judge thinking "this guy is an asshole, I don't like him." Juries think the same thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (iFTx/)
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So the man that the left has already successfully stolen an election from is our "only hope" of winning an election, and then not having the left do exactly what Trump permitted them to do successfully already.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
So it looks like Trump will be the nominee... Then what ?
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
So it looks like Trump will be the nominee... Then what ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (n2vyf)
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What are your new hobbies going to be
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (xcxpd)
Rifle range with my AR-10 and reloading.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (xcxpd)
Rifle range with my AR-10 and reloading.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (gmo/4)
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I don't disagree that DeSantis needed to better articulate his points and grow in that respect. The media being against him is a given, but I think the assist being provided by Trump and his people leaned more towards all out destruction and personal attack, then a defeat on substance. But then, that's Trump, lots of words and pejoratives, not much substance.
BTW, missed you on the discussion the other day regarding "Immanuel" the other day (Matthew 1:22-23 vs Isaiah 7:14). I think you're the one whose deep on some of that?
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (9NZQU)
I don't think it's articulation that is the issue, so much as using alternate avenues to generate enthusiasm and attention. Trump on Twitter was kind of pioneering in regards to that(also his ability to redirect everyone's attention). Vivek we have seen generate a lot of positive buzz with little resources.
Immanuel literally means "God with us", which I don't think is terribly complicated as a reference to Jesus. Isaiah has God coming down to act as intercessor. Isaiah 59:16.
BTW, missed you on the discussion the other day regarding "Immanuel" the other day (Matthew 1:22-23 vs Isaiah 7:14). I think you're the one whose deep on some of that?
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (9NZQU)
I don't think it's articulation that is the issue, so much as using alternate avenues to generate enthusiasm and attention. Trump on Twitter was kind of pioneering in regards to that(also his ability to redirect everyone's attention). Vivek we have seen generate a lot of positive buzz with little resources.
Immanuel literally means "God with us", which I don't think is terribly complicated as a reference to Jesus. Isaiah has God coming down to act as intercessor. Isaiah 59:16.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (eYoxG)
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But that would actually take someone who could make a material, factual, meaningful argument. Not throw pejoratives and ad hominems like a 10 year old diaper boy.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (9NZQU)
But that does make Trump a man made for our times.
I'd say ironically, but I'm not sure what irony is anymore.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:20 PM (9NZQU)
But that does make Trump a man made for our times.
I'd say ironically, but I'm not sure what irony is anymore.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (FCbAQ)
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Vivek for Trump press secretary.
Posted by: norrin radd at January 04, 2024 01:59 PM (dN+2t)
Wasn't there some Asian candidate for some office who said "I despise all of you"? I'd prefer that guy... that could be his sole answer.
Posted by: norrin radd at January 04, 2024 01:59 PM (dN+2t)
Wasn't there some Asian candidate for some office who said "I despise all of you"? I'd prefer that guy... that could be his sole answer.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (zhLdt)
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Posted by: Axeman
So, any agreement with a statement that one believes to be true is a "creedal statement?"
I really don't see your point.
So, any agreement with a statement that one believes to be true is a "creedal statement?"
I really don't see your point.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (9yWhg)
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And trump was unable to stop them. In fact, he could have lodged lawsuits to stop, for example, Pennsylvania changing the election rules without the legislature, but decided he would just grouse on twitter instead.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
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It's my understand that there were lawsuits filed beforehand, but they were dismissed because no harm had been done yet.
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I recently read about another approach that was used.
Trump's team would file so that the cases were heard in a "timely" (legal term) manner, and the judges would refuse so that it would be too late.
Posted by: ace/Biff Costanza at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
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It's my understand that there were lawsuits filed beforehand, but they were dismissed because no harm had been done yet.
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I recently read about another approach that was used.
Trump's team would file so that the cases were heard in a "timely" (legal term) manner, and the judges would refuse so that it would be too late.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (9cE5Q)
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Ace, out of curiosity, whose poll numbers are you quoting? I see them but never pay much attention to them.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (D7oie)
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All you have to do is call their bluff and laugh in their face. We don't need to justify shit to them.
This is the mentality our people need to adopt immediately.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (0Uf+z)
Absolutely.
"FYNQ. Actually, scratch that. No more questions, bitch. I just remembered nobody watches you worms anymore, anyway. I need to get my message out somewhere people will see it."
This is the mentality our people need to adopt immediately.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at January 04, 2024 02:27 PM (0Uf+z)
Absolutely.
"FYNQ. Actually, scratch that. No more questions, bitch. I just remembered nobody watches you worms anymore, anyway. I need to get my message out somewhere people will see it."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (0FoWg)
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I think you missed my point. I said you can just as effectively make your points without being aggressive or argumentative. I didn't say back down or roll over. Just the opposite.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)
I want combative. This country needs combative. The reason the left has taken over our institutions is because they're combative.
We can't stop bullets by being nice. Same thing goes for leftist politics.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)
I want combative. This country needs combative. The reason the left has taken over our institutions is because they're combative.
We can't stop bullets by being nice. Same thing goes for leftist politics.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (BdMk6)
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I want politicians to be distributed across the country—basically stay in their home state/district rather than congregate in DC.
I want the heavily-populated deep state to remain in DC and not infect the rest of the country.
I want the heavily-populated deep state to remain in DC and not infect the rest of the country.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (EXyHK)
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oh I know, now you'll site his polls WITHIN THE GOP, while ignoring the 60% disapproval with the general election populace
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Trumps disapproval rating is 49% now
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Trumps disapproval rating is 49% now
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (VTu1l)
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Are many of you voting in the primaries? I guess that's what the disputants will do.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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f Trump can't differentiate between the people who attacked him for 7 years, and the person who ably defended him against those attacks, it doesn't speak highly of him or his suitability. I wonder why he can't attract quality people.
You know what speaks poorly of Ron? He has spent $100 million losing support in this campaign. Maybe, just maybe, you should be a bit more focused on what Ron is doing wrong.
I only call 'em as I see 'em. When RDS asks me for campaign advice, I'll be sure to provide it. Now, why is it that every question about Trump turns into a deflection and an attack on RDS?
You know what speaks poorly of Ron? He has spent $100 million losing support in this campaign. Maybe, just maybe, you should be a bit more focused on what Ron is doing wrong.
I only call 'em as I see 'em. When RDS asks me for campaign advice, I'll be sure to provide it. Now, why is it that every question about Trump turns into a deflection and an attack on RDS?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (CsUN+)
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I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who I think would have a Trump shrine; I just think they prefer him as a candidate. The "Trump shrine" stuff sounds like leftist who suggest Trump supporters worship him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM
Your sarcasm detector needs a 10,000 mile tune up. Now if you'll excuse me I'm preparing to cross the frozen Delaware tonight and lay waste to New Jersey. Our Founding Fathers would approve.
I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who I think would have a Trump shrine; I just think they prefer him as a candidate. The "Trump shrine" stuff sounds like leftist who suggest Trump supporters worship him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM
Your sarcasm detector needs a 10,000 mile tune up. Now if you'll excuse me I'm preparing to cross the frozen Delaware tonight and lay waste to New Jersey. Our Founding Fathers would approve.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (3qE2b)
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The hymn will be A Mighty Fortress Is Our Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024
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Followed by "Our Melania Has an Awesome Bod"!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Communion will Trump Taco Bowls.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024
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Followed by "Our Melania Has an Awesome Bod"!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Communion will Trump Taco Bowls.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (FVME7)
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318 actually, you are right elric, IIRC Cruz says he got a number of items through the Supreme Court by being reasonable, soothing and managing at one point to lull Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg to sleep.
I never figured he was particularly nice, or not tenacious.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (D7oie)
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Yea, but appeals court is a little different and especially the Supreme Court. You have to be especially gracious and measured in Supreme Court (I'm a member of the SC bar). You can get away with a little more fire at the trial level, as judges there expect some fireworks. But a little goes a long way.
I never figured he was particularly nice, or not tenacious.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 02:29 PM (D7oie)
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Yea, but appeals court is a little different and especially the Supreme Court. You have to be especially gracious and measured in Supreme Court (I'm a member of the SC bar). You can get away with a little more fire at the trial level, as judges there expect some fireworks. But a little goes a long way.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't think BunnyFooFoo would do it, but I'd love a guest column with him brutally handing out facts every month or so.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (9cE5Q)
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339 Dune>>>>>>>Dune Messiah
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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I really like Children of Dune. God Emperor of Dune is borderline unreadable but sort of interesting.
I started reading Heretics a year or so, and I just stopped. I should pick it up again. Maybe after All the King's Men.
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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I really like Children of Dune. God Emperor of Dune is borderline unreadable but sort of interesting.
I started reading Heretics a year or so, and I just stopped. I should pick it up again. Maybe after All the King's Men.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump. We need this man, he fights.
I'm not voting for him because of his tweets and name calling.
I'm not voting for him because of his tweets and name calling.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (gmo/4)
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333 YD, I think you would make a great candidate.
You'd make that "Gentlemen, I despise each and every one of you" guy look like Alvin Greene.
You'd make that "Gentlemen, I despise each and every one of you" guy look like Alvin Greene.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (9yWhg)
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Rifle range with my AR-10 and reloading.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (gmo/4)
You're living your life right then
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (gmo/4)
You're living your life right then
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:35 PM (xcxpd)
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311 Which is why it's so frustrating to see candidates in every race across America just...ignore the issue. It's highly important to the base, but no one will address it.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The voter integrity issue is better handled by outside groups rather than the RNC anyway. So True the Vote and the Fractal people are actually chipping away at the key for voter fraud--padded voter lists. TTV won a major case brought against them by Marc Elias and his lawfare cronies in Georgia for example and that means that most likely they will be paying legal costs for TTV.
Joining your state local voter integrity organizations and working with them is far more important than doing precinct work in 2024.
It reminds me of immigration from 2006-2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The voter integrity issue is better handled by outside groups rather than the RNC anyway. So True the Vote and the Fractal people are actually chipping away at the key for voter fraud--padded voter lists. TTV won a major case brought against them by Marc Elias and his lawfare cronies in Georgia for example and that means that most likely they will be paying legal costs for TTV.
Joining your state local voter integrity organizations and working with them is far more important than doing precinct work in 2024.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:35 PM (8IKKJ)
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Trump. We need this man, he fights.
I'm not voting for him because of his tweets and name calling.
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+1
The people who told me Biden is a nice man and that inflation is back to normal told me so.
I'm not voting for him because of his tweets and name calling.
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+1
The people who told me Biden is a nice man and that inflation is back to normal told me so.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:35 PM (9cE5Q)
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The difference is that Vivek is running for vice president and Ron obviously is not.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (HgGFf)
As soon as someone can come up with a clear explanation of what Boots DeSantis is running for, that would be great. Because it sure ain't President.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:13 PM (HgGFf)
As soon as someone can come up with a clear explanation of what Boots DeSantis is running for, that would be great. Because it sure ain't President.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (dGCAG)
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It's my understand that there were lawsuits filed beforehand, but they were dismissed because no harm had been done yet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Yes, but those apparently don't count to some people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Yes, but those apparently don't count to some people.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (cMXNt)
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I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who I think would have a Trump shrine; I just think they prefer him as a candidate. The "Trump shrine" stuff sounds like leftist who suggest Trump supporters worship him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM
It's projection on their part once again--they are the ones who buy RBG and Anthony Fauci dolls.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:30 PM
It's projection on their part once again--they are the ones who buy RBG and Anthony Fauci dolls.
Posted by: propeller at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (s/s6s)
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334 I think you missed my point. I said you can just as effectively make your points without being aggressive or argumentative. I didn't say back down or roll over. Just the opposite.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)
I want combative. This country needs combative. The reason the left has taken over our institutions is because they're combative.
We can't stop bullets by being nice. Same thing goes for leftist politics.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (BdMk6)
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Again, I didn't say "nice" . . . .
And I would say that the left has taken over the country not by combat, but by devious stealth over the course of decades. We didn't even know we were in a war. Now that they're in total control, sure they are combative. But that's not how they took over.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)
I want combative. This country needs combative. The reason the left has taken over our institutions is because they're combative.
We can't stop bullets by being nice. Same thing goes for leftist politics.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:32 PM (BdMk6)
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Again, I didn't say "nice" . . . .
And I would say that the left has taken over the country not by combat, but by devious stealth over the course of decades. We didn't even know we were in a war. Now that they're in total control, sure they are combative. But that's not how they took over.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (iFTx/)
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Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (3qE2b)
It wasn't directed towards you. Just a comment about people who do basically think Trump supporters worship him.
It wasn't directed towards you. Just a comment about people who do basically think Trump supporters worship him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (RSbhh)
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Tomorrow is my last day at work as I retiring.
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024
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Archer -- soon to be known as Tamerlane the Second!
Congratulations on the retirement, sir. I hope to join the club this spring myself.
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024
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Archer -- soon to be known as Tamerlane the Second!
Congratulations on the retirement, sir. I hope to join the club this spring myself.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (J2vNu)
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Mayor Eric Adams
@NYCMayor
New York City has and will continue to do our part in the asylum seeker crisis. But we can't bear the costs alone — and we won't let those complicit in
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws.
We’re seeking approximately $700 million from 17 charter bus companies that transported migrants to NYC without paying to care for them.
We'll see you in court.
http://tinyurl.com/878cht74
@NYCMayor
New York City has and will continue to do our part in the asylum seeker crisis. But we can't bear the costs alone — and we won't let those complicit in
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws.
We’re seeking approximately $700 million from 17 charter bus companies that transported migrants to NYC without paying to care for them.
We'll see you in court.
http://tinyurl.com/878cht74
Posted by: redridinghood at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (NpAcC)
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345 339 Dune>>>>>>>Dune Messiah
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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I really like Children of Dune. God Emperor of Dune is borderline unreadable but sort of interesting.
I started reading Heretics a year or so, and I just stopped. I should pick it up again. Maybe after All the King's Men.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
Don't bother.
Chuck is right. Dune is a masterpiece. Children of Dune still has momentum from that but it peters out dramatically. Chapterhouse is particularly bad. And don't get me started on the Honored Matres...
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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I really like Children of Dune. God Emperor of Dune is borderline unreadable but sort of interesting.
I started reading Heretics a year or so, and I just stopped. I should pick it up again. Maybe after All the King's Men.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
Don't bother.
Chuck is right. Dune is a masterpiece. Children of Dune still has momentum from that but it peters out dramatically. Chapterhouse is particularly bad. And don't get me started on the Honored Matres...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (xcxpd)
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Trump was deemed to have no standing before the election because he had not lost the election due to corrupt rule changes.
After the election, he was deemed to have no standing because the issue was moot as the election was certified and he lost.
As we found out yesterday, the election certification in PA was illegal as they had 177,000 more ballots cast than eligible ballots. The law says the discrepancy must be resolved. But Shapiro, (now gov) certified anyway.
After the election, he was deemed to have no standing because the issue was moot as the election was certified and he lost.
As we found out yesterday, the election certification in PA was illegal as they had 177,000 more ballots cast than eligible ballots. The law says the discrepancy must be resolved. But Shapiro, (now gov) certified anyway.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (NYzgN)
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Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM (krQz2)
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However now, especially because of the current wreckage, I partially repudiate my resilient naivete and see that if people are truly malign always granting them "ignorance" can give too much of an opportunity to do serious damage.
The left *has* been planning to shut its opponents up since 1965, and many a 20th-century "lib" who grandstanded about unlimited right to expression had read Marcuse about how it was necessary to shut down the freedoms of "the right". Especially those who went to Columbia and learned Critical Theory.
The "unlimited" was for *them* to change the culture, but back in 1965 the traditionals' rights were to be taken from them so they didn't *speak harm* against "marginalized groups".
This is right where we are. Courtesy of Herbert Marcuse.
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However now, especially because of the current wreckage, I partially repudiate my resilient naivete and see that if people are truly malign always granting them "ignorance" can give too much of an opportunity to do serious damage.
The left *has* been planning to shut its opponents up since 1965, and many a 20th-century "lib" who grandstanded about unlimited right to expression had read Marcuse about how it was necessary to shut down the freedoms of "the right". Especially those who went to Columbia and learned Critical Theory.
The "unlimited" was for *them* to change the culture, but back in 1965 the traditionals' rights were to be taken from them so they didn't *speak harm* against "marginalized groups".
This is right where we are. Courtesy of Herbert Marcuse.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (krQz2)
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really like you, but this is one of the stupidest things you've ever said.
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I am beginning to think you are related to DeSantis. Too emotional to be just for pay.
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I am beginning to think you are related to DeSantis. Too emotional to be just for pay.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (HgGFf)
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"Immanuel literally means "God with us", which I don't think is terribly complicated as a reference to Jesus. Isaiah has God coming down to act as intercessor. Isaiah 59:16.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (eYoxG)"
Thanks. There was this whole historical and heuristic argument basically (falsely I believe) trying to say that Isaiah wasn't referring to Jesus, he was referring to Ahaz, and that Matthew was essentially trying to force that part of scripture upon Jesus, because he wasn't named Immanuel. Very frustrating.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (eYoxG)"
Thanks. There was this whole historical and heuristic argument basically (falsely I believe) trying to say that Isaiah wasn't referring to Jesus, he was referring to Ahaz, and that Matthew was essentially trying to force that part of scripture upon Jesus, because he wasn't named Immanuel. Very frustrating.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (9NZQU)
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As soon as someone can come up with a clear explanation of what Boots DeSantis is running for, that would be great. Because it sure ain't President.
Posted by: BurtTC
CEO of the Nickelback fan club?
Posted by: BurtTC
CEO of the Nickelback fan club?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (9yWhg)
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Again, there was not rationale for DeMeatball Rob or anyone else running in 24 while Trump was on the political scene. None.
This rending of garments over something that is largely out of anyone's control is amusing.
This rending of garments over something that is largely out of anyone's control is amusing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (rc3Z7)
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Nice is for contracts and family law.
ehh I wouldn't say nice -- there's a time and place to be combative in any area of law
ehh I wouldn't say nice -- there's a time and place to be combative in any area of law
Posted by: brak at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (AR07F)
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New York City has and will continue to do our part in the asylum seeker crisis. But we can't bear the costs alone — and we won't let those complicit in
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws.
Your State laws say people can't travel to NY on chartered buses ?
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws.
Your State laws say people can't travel to NY on chartered buses ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:38 PM (n2vyf)
367
Just like I don't have to be faster than a bear I just have to be faster than you, Trump doesn't have to be the most popular person in the race, he just has to be more popular than Biden. And he is.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:38 PM (ZLI7S)
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OT: But despite all the conflict in this thread....that kind of conflict between morons is good, useful and healthy. I kinda love to see it. Not in a trolling kinda way, obvs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
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345 339 Dune>>>>>>>Dune Messiah
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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Loved Dune. Read Dune Messiah. Then never read another Dune book.
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
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Loved Dune. Read Dune Messiah. Then never read another Dune book.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (LVNnd)
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358 Don't bother.
Chuck is right. Dune is a masterpiece. Children of Dune still has momentum from that but it peters out dramatically. Chapterhouse is particularly bad. And don't get me started on the Honored Matres...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (xcxpd)
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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!
Also, I discovered a podcast that goes in depth into The Book of the New Sun. I'm most of the way through the first episode which covers...the first chapter.
I think I'm going to listen to it all because...that book engulfed me and I'm not sure I came out with my head on right.
Chuck is right. Dune is a masterpiece. Children of Dune still has momentum from that but it peters out dramatically. Chapterhouse is particularly bad. And don't get me started on the Honored Matres...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (xcxpd)
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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!
Also, I discovered a podcast that goes in depth into The Book of the New Sun. I'm most of the way through the first episode which covers...the first chapter.
I think I'm going to listen to it all because...that book engulfed me and I'm not sure I came out with my head on right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
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We'll see you in court.
http://tinyurl.com/878cht74
Posted by: redridinghood at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM
Is this clown serious?
http://tinyurl.com/878cht74
Posted by: redridinghood at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM
Is this clown serious?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (Wnv9h)
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I’m voting against Biden and the Left. Only divine intervention can save us.
Another item the Trump supporters ignore is that Trump commuted the sentence of the largest employer of illegal aliens in the United States. Not quite the defender of our border as he wants you to believe.
Another item the Trump supporters ignore is that Trump commuted the sentence of the largest employer of illegal aliens in the United States. Not quite the defender of our border as he wants you to believe.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (MNhXM)
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368 OT: But despite all the conflict in this thread....that kind of conflict between morons is good, useful and healthy. I kinda love to see it. Not in a trolling kinda way, obvs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
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That's just what a commie Christie supporter would say!
Stone him!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
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That's just what a commie Christie supporter would say!
Stone him!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mango at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (BvmRf)
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@NYCMayor
New York City has and will continue to do our part in the asylum seeker crisis. But we can't bear the costs alone — and we won't let those complicit in @GovAbbott's scheme get away with violating our state laws.
We’re seeking approximately $700 million from 17 charter bus companies that transported migrants to NYC without paying to care for them.
We'll see you in court.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Assuming I have a deadbeat relative who wants to get out of town and try his luck somewhere else. He comes to me and says, "Hey, Joe, I gotta get out of this place. I can't make it here. I want to try making it in New York, but I can't do it alone. Will you buy me a place ticket?"
I agree. I buy him the ticket because it's cheap at twice the price - it gets him out of my hair, and I'll be too far away to help when he inevitably crashes and burns again. I take him to the airport, hand him his boarding pass and say, "bon voyage!"
So now NYC can sue me for sending him there?
New York City has and will continue to do our part in the asylum seeker crisis. But we can't bear the costs alone — and we won't let those complicit in @GovAbbott's scheme get away with violating our state laws.
We’re seeking approximately $700 million from 17 charter bus companies that transported migrants to NYC without paying to care for them.
We'll see you in court.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (NpAcC)
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Assuming I have a deadbeat relative who wants to get out of town and try his luck somewhere else. He comes to me and says, "Hey, Joe, I gotta get out of this place. I can't make it here. I want to try making it in New York, but I can't do it alone. Will you buy me a place ticket?"
I agree. I buy him the ticket because it's cheap at twice the price - it gets him out of my hair, and I'll be too far away to help when he inevitably crashes and burns again. I take him to the airport, hand him his boarding pass and say, "bon voyage!"
So now NYC can sue me for sending him there?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (WkNQM)
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.that kind of conflict between morons is good, useful and healthy. I kinda love to see it.
Just don't bring up crossbows vs. longbows.
Just don't bring up crossbows vs. longbows.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (9yWhg)
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As we found out yesterday, the election certification in PA was illegal as they had 177,000 more ballots cast than eligible ballots. The law says the discrepancy must be resolved. But Shapiro, (now gov) certified anyway.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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Wait, what? What did I miss? Do you have a link, because the gatekeepers aren't allowing that to be searched.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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Wait, what? What did I miss? Do you have a link, because the gatekeepers aren't allowing that to be searched.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - I bet you've already forgotten about Maui at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (9cE5Q)
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and we won't let those complicit in
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws
So Joe flying in illegals in the dead of night is okay ?
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws
So Joe flying in illegals in the dead of night is okay ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (n2vyf)
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It wasn't directed towards you. Just a comment about people who do basically think Trump supporters worship him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM
That might be the propriety of this blog. Who's a great guy, funny as hell, but he never lost a business to bankruptcy when the betters in our government sold us down the river to China.
It tends to focus some people differently. They see the words 'America First' as really, really important.
It wasn't directed towards you. Just a comment about people who do basically think Trump supporters worship him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM
That might be the propriety of this blog. Who's a great guy, funny as hell, but he never lost a business to bankruptcy when the betters in our government sold us down the river to China.
It tends to focus some people differently. They see the words 'America First' as really, really important.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (3qE2b)
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What is "white nationalism?" Opposed to open borders?
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (U8kCF)
381
Here’s the Iowa shooter’s post with the hashtag #genderfluid and the trans flag. He also had the LGBT flag in his bio.
When they talked about "trans-genocide" I didn't think they meant they'd be the ones genociding the rest of us.
When they talked about "trans-genocide" I didn't think they meant they'd be the ones genociding the rest of us.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (dZVON)
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Trump’s SOS Pompeo who the Trump supporters hailed as one of Trump’s good picks , was asked early on if he was going to support a Trump presidential run . His reply was ‘ God no’ .
That should give pause to everyone .
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Not at all.
Conservatives (myself included) have fallen for lots of people who turned out not to be who they projected themselves to be. Think Cheney and Bolton, for example. Pompeo is another one of the swamp creatures who hid his true identity. He protected the IC community rather than President Trump. Quisling in my book now.
That should give pause to everyone .
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Not at all.
Conservatives (myself included) have fallen for lots of people who turned out not to be who they projected themselves to be. Think Cheney and Bolton, for example. Pompeo is another one of the swamp creatures who hid his true identity. He protected the IC community rather than President Trump. Quisling in my book now.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (llkOJ)
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@366
>>Your State laws say people can't travel to NY on chartered buses?
They will just use an Inverse Chebacca Defense flim flam statute smashup and novel theory.
Because, nobody had broken any laws, literally.
>>Your State laws say people can't travel to NY on chartered buses?
They will just use an Inverse Chebacca Defense flim flam statute smashup and novel theory.
Because, nobody had broken any laws, literally.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (rc3Z7)
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and a heavy play for a state that hasn’t been won in years, Minnesota ".
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (V13WU)
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Heard that the last time too - and we got rolled. MN is a lost cause, proven time and time again. 40 days until we move - thankfully I get to spend 15 of those in Hawaii
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:24 PM (V13WU)
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Heard that the last time too - and we got rolled. MN is a lost cause, proven time and time again. 40 days until we move - thankfully I get to spend 15 of those in Hawaii
Posted by: jhawk90 at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (MKoxD)
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339 Dune>>>>>>>Dune Messiah
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
I used to think that, but on reflection I find it almost as good...almost.
Now after Children of Dune, things go off the rails.
If this second installment of Dune is good, I'll be very excited to see what they can do with DM.
It's all downhill after the first book.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 04, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)
I used to think that, but on reflection I find it almost as good...almost.
Now after Children of Dune, things go off the rails.
If this second installment of Dune is good, I'll be very excited to see what they can do with DM.
Posted by: browndog unearthing eternal truths at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (TTAGa)
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Trump doesn't have to be the most popular person in the race, he just has to be more popular than Biden. And he is.
But that's not the same thing as "he's the only one who can win".
But that's not the same thing as "he's the only one who can win".
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (CsUN+)
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378 and we won't let those complicit in
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws
So Joe flying in illegals in the dead of night is okay ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (n2vyf)
It's DIFFERENT when Democrats do it...
@GovAbbott
's scheme get away with violating our state laws
So Joe flying in illegals in the dead of night is okay ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (n2vyf)
It's DIFFERENT when Democrats do it...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (xcxpd)
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Why you no prefer The Mango?
Posted by: Mango at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (BvmRf)
I think mango must be one of those things that people either hate or really like such as cilantro. I can't stand mango. My son really likes it.
Posted by: Mango at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (BvmRf)
I think mango must be one of those things that people either hate or really like such as cilantro. I can't stand mango. My son really likes it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (RSbhh)
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Speaking of Trump, is everyone enjoying the freakout the left is having because Trump isn't on Epstein's list? They're on Reddit and X, furiously posting pictures of Trump next to Epstein and insisting the pictures are rock solid proof and pay no attention to the court documents and testimonies.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (Odg76)
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>>Here’s the Iowa shooter’s post with the hashtag #genderfluid and the trans flag. He also had the LGBT flag in his bio.
There was an Iowa shooting? Was this today?
There was an Iowa shooting? Was this today?
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2024 02:42 PM (BvmRf)
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>>But that's not the same thing as "he's the only one who can win".
No. But clearly Ron can't beat Trump so it's pretty academic.
No. But clearly Ron can't beat Trump so it's pretty academic.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:42 PM (ZLI7S)
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I love mango.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:42 PM (9yWhg)
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Tell me magical tales of how he is going sweep aside the bureaucracy and dismantle the FBI brick by brick. And defund PBS.
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Well yeah.
Look at all the victories Ron racked up in FL despite the FL House being under Democrat control.
Oh. Wait. That's not at all what happened.
We're not supposed to notice that.
Ron is such a leader and "gets stuff done" so we should not discuss the strong tailwind he had of large majorities in both FL chambers that could ram through their--not Ron's--policies.
But Ron signed the bills and that's a leader who gets stuff done an shit.
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Well yeah.
Look at all the victories Ron racked up in FL despite the FL House being under Democrat control.
Oh. Wait. That's not at all what happened.
We're not supposed to notice that.
Ron is such a leader and "gets stuff done" so we should not discuss the strong tailwind he had of large majorities in both FL chambers that could ram through their--not Ron's--policies.
But Ron signed the bills and that's a leader who gets stuff done an shit.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (TzW+Y)
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You'd make that "Gentlemen, I despise each and every one of you" guy look like Alvin Greene.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (9yWhg)
Thank you for the fine compliment.
But yeah, people who find people like DeSantis or Ramaswamy too contentious would vomit all over themselves when they saw that candidacy.
My approach would be to set out in every encounter to goad my Communist opponents into punching me. It wouldn't work most of the time, maybe even ever, but if you strive for perfection, you may find you achieve excellence.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:34 PM (9yWhg)
Thank you for the fine compliment.
But yeah, people who find people like DeSantis or Ramaswamy too contentious would vomit all over themselves when they saw that candidacy.
My approach would be to set out in every encounter to goad my Communist opponents into punching me. It wouldn't work most of the time, maybe even ever, but if you strive for perfection, you may find you achieve excellence.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (0FoWg)
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Trump doesn't have to be the most popular person in the race
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I judge Trump on whether he's done more right than he has wrong, and by his actions he has (I dont pay attention to his words or social media temper tantrums for the most part). I would prefer he not be stubborn about some of his fatal mistakes, that he would pick better people that wont constantly stab him in the back, or at least stop typing in ALL CAPs on Truth Social, but I also want to have five kids by Zooey Deschanel too. We cant always get what we want in this multiverse.
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I judge Trump on whether he's done more right than he has wrong, and by his actions he has (I dont pay attention to his words or social media temper tantrums for the most part). I would prefer he not be stubborn about some of his fatal mistakes, that he would pick better people that wont constantly stab him in the back, or at least stop typing in ALL CAPs on Truth Social, but I also want to have five kids by Zooey Deschanel too. We cant always get what we want in this multiverse.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (9yWhg)
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I don't know enough of Vivek's background (my failing), but he keeps saying the right things, things nobody else will say. Like, The emperor is naked.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (FNN+Q)
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362 "Immanuel literally means "God with us", which I don't think is terribly complicated as a reference to Jesus. Isaiah has God coming down to act as intercessor. Isaiah 59:16.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (eYoxG)"
Thanks. There was this whole historical and heuristic argument basically (falsely I believe) trying to say that Isaiah wasn't referring to Jesus, he was referring to Ahaz, and that Matthew was essentially trying to force that part of scripture upon Jesus, because he wasn't named Immanuel. Very frustrating.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (9NZQU)
Dead Seas Scroll 11Q13 also points to the tradition of Melchizedek being associated with a Son of God. There's a few differences in the Essene tradition and the ancient Christian sects, but it's extremely close and recognizable in most regards.
Modern Jewish denominations I think associate their Messiah to come with a different OT figure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:31 PM (eYoxG)"
Thanks. There was this whole historical and heuristic argument basically (falsely I believe) trying to say that Isaiah wasn't referring to Jesus, he was referring to Ahaz, and that Matthew was essentially trying to force that part of scripture upon Jesus, because he wasn't named Immanuel. Very frustrating.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:37 PM (9NZQU)
Dead Seas Scroll 11Q13 also points to the tradition of Melchizedek being associated with a Son of God. There's a few differences in the Essene tradition and the ancient Christian sects, but it's extremely close and recognizable in most regards.
Modern Jewish denominations I think associate their Messiah to come with a different OT figure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (eYoxG)
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DeSantis is for all those who really want an Ivy League lawyer who has gotten a government paycheck his entire adult life.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (cMXNt)
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Kanekoathegreat posted Trump's run down of the fraud in multiple states. Stupidly released yesterday
http://tinyurl.com/yc8s6dyd
http://tinyurl.com/yc8s6dyd
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (NYzgN)
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They're on Reddit and X, furiously posting pictures of Trump next to Epstein and insisting the pictures are rock solid proof and pay no attention to the court documents and testimonies.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (Odg76)
Talk about a cult. Isn't that one of the definitions?
Posted by: bonhomme at January 04, 2024 02:41 PM (Odg76)
Talk about a cult. Isn't that one of the definitions?
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (v6srk)
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My approach would be to set out in every encounter to goad my Communist opponents into punching me. It wouldn't work most of the time, maybe even ever, but if you strive for perfection, you may find you achieve excellence.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
I bet you and Mannix had some interesting times growing up together.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
I bet you and Mannix had some interesting times growing up together.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (9yWhg)
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So Joe flying in illegals in the dead of night is okay ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (n2vyf)
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Yes. When that happens, it's a government agency or government-affiliated NGO doing it. There is communication in advance, and a schedule. The local NGOs and agencies are aligned and ready. They have beds for the night lined up and other resources all staged in advance (or just-in-time, but either way, they're prepared for it).
Those guys are the "correct" and pre-planned arrivals that their machinery can spirit away and hide on their longer trip to be dispersed throughout the state or region. These outside influxes screw up the system and since the system has relatively narrow margins, it makes them squawk.
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 02:40 PM (n2vyf)
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Yes. When that happens, it's a government agency or government-affiliated NGO doing it. There is communication in advance, and a schedule. The local NGOs and agencies are aligned and ready. They have beds for the night lined up and other resources all staged in advance (or just-in-time, but either way, they're prepared for it).
Those guys are the "correct" and pre-planned arrivals that their machinery can spirit away and hide on their longer trip to be dispersed throughout the state or region. These outside influxes screw up the system and since the system has relatively narrow margins, it makes them squawk.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (WkNQM)
404
12 He did well on that. very well.
He also is the only big public figure who has ever mentioned (to my knowledge - but I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of utterances of public figures) the thing I've been pounding the table about for years: that the "born this way" basis of the gay-rights-as-civil-rights movement is incompatible with contemporary sex theory (gender fluidity, tranny shit, etc.).
I don't trust him because I think he might be a cipher a lot like Obama (come from nowhere and say all the right things with little history to back it up), but much of what he says impresses me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:46 PM (WkNQM)
Joe...
What "right" things did Obama say?
He also is the only big public figure who has ever mentioned (to my knowledge - but I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of utterances of public figures) the thing I've been pounding the table about for years: that the "born this way" basis of the gay-rights-as-civil-rights movement is incompatible with contemporary sex theory (gender fluidity, tranny shit, etc.).
I don't trust him because I think he might be a cipher a lot like Obama (come from nowhere and say all the right things with little history to back it up), but much of what he says impresses me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 01:46 PM (WkNQM)
Joe...
What "right" things did Obama say?
Posted by: Inogame at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (ZLI7S)
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The Book of the New
==
Yeah that's an awesome book series by a great catholic science fi writer. There is a good wiki on it too. Some guy wrote a whole book about the various meanings, Easter eggs, allusions.
==
Yeah that's an awesome book series by a great catholic science fi writer. There is a good wiki on it too. Some guy wrote a whole book about the various meanings, Easter eggs, allusions.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (HgGFf)
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (BvmRf)
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Eric Adam's cheese had slid off the cracker.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (3NUu0)
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Trump’s SOS Pompeo
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I used to like Pompeo until I learned about his background with Julian Assange and Pompeo's fetish for taint licking his beloved CIA.
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I used to like Pompeo until I learned about his background with Julian Assange and Pompeo's fetish for taint licking his beloved CIA.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (VTu1l)
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I saw a few people on X saying that the Harvard president doesn't matter because she'll be replaced by a loon who is no worse.
It's like people don't see the strategic goal of *forcing* progs to *defend plagiarism* AS scholarship.
If you're opponents are going to make themselves look *that* ridiculous, it's not completely Alinskyan to let them--and pile on a little bit.
An Alinskyite says "I can't believe..." because he's deploying ridicule. A non-Alinskyite says "I can't believe..." because although he may ridicule the idea, it's mainly an expression that they really can't believe that somebody would turn things on its ear like that.
It's like people don't see the strategic goal of *forcing* progs to *defend plagiarism* AS scholarship.
If you're opponents are going to make themselves look *that* ridiculous, it's not completely Alinskyan to let them--and pile on a little bit.
An Alinskyite says "I can't believe..." because he's deploying ridicule. A non-Alinskyite says "I can't believe..." because although he may ridicule the idea, it's mainly an expression that they really can't believe that somebody would turn things on its ear like that.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (krQz2)
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Hang In There, Chris
America needs Chris Christie to stay in the race.
CHARLIE SYKES
Spoiler alert: Trump is romping.
In today’s GOP it is radically countercultural to admit errors or apologize for mistakes. Humility is for cucks. So what Christie is doing here is vanishingly rare:
"Eight years ago when I decided to endorse Donald Trump for president, I did it because he was winning, and I did it because I thought I could make him a better candidate and a better president," Christie says in the ad, speaking directly to the camera.
"Well, I was wrong, I made a mistake," he says.
Look, the guy is not going to win. He’s not going to be the nominee. But sometimes lost causes are the ones worth fighting for. The smart kids will roll their eyes at this, but the term “quixotic’ has not always been considered a pejorative.
as A.B. Stoddard wrote the other day, “Dropping out to clear the field would mean supporting a candidate he knows is going to lose to Trump anyway, and who refuses to tell that truth.” say to hell with that: If we’re going to go down in a fireball, let’s do it raging to the end.
For the moment, at least, Christie isn’t going anywhere.
America needs Chris Christie to stay in the race.
CHARLIE SYKES
Spoiler alert: Trump is romping.
In today’s GOP it is radically countercultural to admit errors or apologize for mistakes. Humility is for cucks. So what Christie is doing here is vanishingly rare:
"Eight years ago when I decided to endorse Donald Trump for president, I did it because he was winning, and I did it because I thought I could make him a better candidate and a better president," Christie says in the ad, speaking directly to the camera.
"Well, I was wrong, I made a mistake," he says.
Look, the guy is not going to win. He’s not going to be the nominee. But sometimes lost causes are the ones worth fighting for. The smart kids will roll their eyes at this, but the term “quixotic’ has not always been considered a pejorative.
as A.B. Stoddard wrote the other day, “Dropping out to clear the field would mean supporting a candidate he knows is going to lose to Trump anyway, and who refuses to tell that truth.” say to hell with that: If we’re going to go down in a fireball, let’s do it raging to the end.
For the moment, at least, Christie isn’t going anywhere.
Posted by: Intercepted Bulwark Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (p1z+a)
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Also, I discovered a podcast that goes in depth into The Book of the New Sun. I'm most of the way through the first episode which covers...the first chapter.
I think I'm going to listen to it all because...that book engulfed me and I'm not sure I came out with my head on right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
Ping me the link for that. I love Gene Wolfe and have most of his books.
I think I'm going to listen to it all because...that book engulfed me and I'm not sure I came out with my head on right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
Ping me the link for that. I love Gene Wolfe and have most of his books.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (xcxpd)
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I like the way Vivek presents hisself and how he is able to move from issue to issue smoothly and stating facts and ideas on how to fix an issue.
He's on the right track as far as I am concerned and would make a great VP for President Trump and as Director Of FBI Abolishment, Dissolving and Horse Whipping.
He's on the right track as far as I am concerned and would make a great VP for President Trump and as Director Of FBI Abolishment, Dissolving and Horse Whipping.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (Edu7X)
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@375
>>So now NYC can sue me for sending him there?
Of course not, they're literally going to try to pull what they are doing to Trump, infer imaginary crimes and get a judge to simply make it so.
>>So now NYC can sue me for sending him there?
Of course not, they're literally going to try to pull what they are doing to Trump, infer imaginary crimes and get a judge to simply make it so.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (rc3Z7)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (9yWhg)
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406 The Book of the New
==
Yeah that's an awesome book series by a great catholic science fi writer. There is a good wiki on it too. Some guy wrote a whole book about the various meanings, Easter eggs, allusions.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (HgGFf)
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I read it once in high school and then just finished it, plus The Urth of the New Sun, recently again (though I had never finished the coda novel before).
I mean...it's dense and confusing, though I could describe the basic plot pretty well. I want to know more!
==
Yeah that's an awesome book series by a great catholic science fi writer. There is a good wiki on it too. Some guy wrote a whole book about the various meanings, Easter eggs, allusions.
Posted by: Abandon your strawman at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (HgGFf)
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I read it once in high school and then just finished it, plus The Urth of the New Sun, recently again (though I had never finished the coda novel before).
I mean...it's dense and confusing, though I could describe the basic plot pretty well. I want to know more!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (GBKbO)
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But DeSantis supporters, at least none that I have seen so far will not admit, AT ALL, that he has run a poor campaign and fatally miscalculated his strategy of how to entice trump supporters over, having simply decided they're all cultists who spend time fapping over each other at truth social, and thus NOTHING THAT DESANTIS COULD DO WILL EVER WIN THEM OVER, AMEN.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger
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The internet influencer strategy by directly paying people like Shapiro to simultaneously dump on Trump was a stupid self goal by former Cruz consultants. By and large, the past eight or so years have destroyed much of the influence of controlled GOP media---Fox, the assorted interest group and billionaire funded pubs like the Examiner, Free Beacon, National Review, the defunct Weakly Standard, and damaged the various institutions like Heritage and others.
Simply put, the peasants on the GOP coalition are rebelling because economics and living conditions more than anything this cycle matter. Not the favored social issue battles with the left which are more a state issue than federal at this point.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger
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The internet influencer strategy by directly paying people like Shapiro to simultaneously dump on Trump was a stupid self goal by former Cruz consultants. By and large, the past eight or so years have destroyed much of the influence of controlled GOP media---Fox, the assorted interest group and billionaire funded pubs like the Examiner, Free Beacon, National Review, the defunct Weakly Standard, and damaged the various institutions like Heritage and others.
Simply put, the peasants on the GOP coalition are rebelling because economics and living conditions more than anything this cycle matter. Not the favored social issue battles with the left which are more a state issue than federal at this point.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (8IKKJ)
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Joe...
What "right" things did Obama say?
Posted by: Inogame at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (53oGX)
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If you're a leftist? Rather a lot.
What "right" things did Obama say?
Posted by: Inogame at January 04, 2024 02:44 PM (53oGX)
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If you're a leftist? Rather a lot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (WkNQM)
419
The worst kind of white nationalist is a non-white, white nationalist. This is science.
Posted by: Montec at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (YofvK)
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>>Ping me the link for that. I love Gene Wolfe and have most of his books.
Link it in here.
Gene Wolfe fans abound.
Link it in here.
Gene Wolfe fans abound.
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (BvmRf)
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DeSantis is for all those who really want an Ivy League lawyer who has gotten a government paycheck his entire adult life.
Cheese it guys, they're on to us.
Cheese it guys, they're on to us.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (CsUN+)
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DeSantis is for all those who really want an Ivy League lawyer who has gotten a government paycheck his entire adult life.
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I for one, am ready for another Yale man in the presidency!!!!
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I for one, am ready for another Yale man in the presidency!!!!
Posted by: Zombie George HW Boooosch at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (HgGFf)
423
407 >>Talk about a cult. Isn't that one of the definitions?
That and Matching Tracksuits.
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (BvmRf)
The return of Uncle Palp...
That and Matching Tracksuits.
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (BvmRf)
The return of Uncle Palp...
Posted by: browndog unearthing eternal truths at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (TTAGa)
424
DeSantis is for all those who really want an Ivy League lawyer who has gotten a government paycheck his entire adult life.
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Why do you hate military and veterans, big guy ?
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Why do you hate military and veterans, big guy ?
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (V13WU)
425
For the moment, at least, Christie isn’t going anywhere.
Oh look, someone discovered how inertia works.
Oh look, someone discovered how inertia works.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (dZVON)
426
As soon as someone can come up with a clear explanation of what Boots DeSantis is running for, that would be great. Because it sure ain't President.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (dGCAG)
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My own opinion is that DeSantis fell for the Never-Trumpers and swamp dwellers who convinced him that he was the second coming and that Trump had to be eliminated and Ron was the only person in the world who could do it. All that butt kissing and lots of establishment $$$ went to his head (and even more to Casey's head) and here we are.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:36 PM (dGCAG)
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My own opinion is that DeSantis fell for the Never-Trumpers and swamp dwellers who convinced him that he was the second coming and that Trump had to be eliminated and Ron was the only person in the world who could do it. All that butt kissing and lots of establishment $$$ went to his head (and even more to Casey's head) and here we are.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (llkOJ)
427
My approach would be to set out in every encounter to goad my Communist opponents into punching me. It wouldn't work most of the time, maybe even ever, but if you strive for perfection, you may find you achieve excellence.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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That is 100% the tactics of the left as James Lindsay reads that their "action" is your "reaction".
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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That is 100% the tactics of the left as James Lindsay reads that their "action" is your "reaction".
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (krQz2)
428
402 My approach would be to set out in every encounter to goad my Communist opponents into punching me. It wouldn't work most of the time, maybe even ever, but if you strive for perfection, you may find you achieve excellence.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
You'd probably enjoy Gordon Dickson's sci fi novel of the Tactics of Mistake. Basically do as you say in fencing and force the opponent to engage until you clock them via their own overreach.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
You'd probably enjoy Gordon Dickson's sci fi novel of the Tactics of Mistake. Basically do as you say in fencing and force the opponent to engage until you clock them via their own overreach.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:48 PM (8IKKJ)
429
Ping me the link for that. I love Gene Wolfe and have most of his books.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (xcxpd)
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Sent you the Audible link. It's called Alzabo Soup.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:45 PM (xcxpd)
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Sent you the Audible link. It's called Alzabo Soup.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)
430
"favorite fruit is the lemon"
Did anyone else catch that concert last night? It was soooo lemon ....
Did anyone else catch that concert last night? It was soooo lemon ....
Posted by: SouthCentralPA at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (J3OJd)
431
Sent you the Audible link. It's called Alzabo Soup.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)
got it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)
got it!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (xcxpd)
432
Back in the early 90's I watch the 1984 Dune movie on TV and was going to read the Dune book but then though to myself "I should read about the real Messiah first", started reading the Bible and going back to church and that's how I got back to Christianity.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (cMXNt)
433
42 >>>23 Vivek, doing the job that Ron DeSantis didn't want to do.
what's Trump doing about it, Cultist, besides selling his supporters on the idea of Nikki Haley for vice president?
Trump talks and does nothing. Vivek talks and does nothing
DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)
This is exactly the issue.
what's Trump doing about it, Cultist, besides selling his supporters on the idea of Nikki Haley for vice president?
Trump talks and does nothing. Vivek talks and does nothing
DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)
This is exactly the issue.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (Hh3y4)
434
Here's the actual website for Alzabo Soup, the podcast related to Gene Wolfe:
https://www.alzabosoup.com/
https://www.alzabosoup.com/
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)
435
No. But clearly Ron can't beat Trump so it's pretty academic.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:42 PM (ZLI7S)
Said many times/many ways, there are three options:
1. Trump's the nominee
2. The R Party commits suicide by helping the left keep him from running.
3. They kill him.
There is no fourth option. Whatever other qualities Boots has, or Vivek has, neither of them are going to win in November. It's really that simple.
Now, I could see the R party forcing Raython Nikki on the ballot, but I think that would cause the party to self-destruct. Regardless, Trump's the man... and if he's not, then it's war.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 02:42 PM (ZLI7S)
Said many times/many ways, there are three options:
1. Trump's the nominee
2. The R Party commits suicide by helping the left keep him from running.
3. They kill him.
There is no fourth option. Whatever other qualities Boots has, or Vivek has, neither of them are going to win in November. It's really that simple.
Now, I could see the R party forcing Raython Nikki on the ballot, but I think that would cause the party to self-destruct. Regardless, Trump's the man... and if he's not, then it's war.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (dGCAG)
436
All those years we worked together, I never knew that Lemmon was a fruit.
Posted by: Zombie Walter Matthau at January 04, 2024 02:50 PM (9yWhg)
437
The Secretary of State of Pennsylvania who 'certified' the 2020 election was 'dismissed' or 'fired' or 'stepped down' or some version of that. NOT because of the election irregularities in the state, OH HEAVENS NO! - but because she didn't place some appropriate notification of pending legislation in newspapers in the appropriate counties in the state for the Boy Scouts of America 20% (20% RYFKM?) bankruptcy to proceed on schedule.
My theory is she knew she didn't wanna spend the rest of her life in court and said, "Let me the hell out of here." They obliged.
The Secretary of State of Pennsylvania who 'certified' the 2020 election was 'dismissed' or 'fired' or 'stepped down' or some version of that. NOT because of the election irregularities in the state, OH HEAVENS NO! - but because she didn't place some appropriate notification of pending legislation in newspapers in the appropriate counties in the state for the Boy Scouts of America 20% (20% RYFKM?) bankruptcy to proceed on schedule.
My theory is she knew she didn't wanna spend the rest of her life in court and said, "Let me the hell out of here." They obliged.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 02:50 PM (3qE2b)
438
There are 3 types of GOP.
The first kind puts every waking moment into destroying Trump
The second kind tries to put themselves in Trump's orbit so they can shiv him in his spleen and write a book about it
The third kind works with him to make the Republic great. They get personally destroyed as collateral of the first two.
The first kind puts every waking moment into destroying Trump
The second kind tries to put themselves in Trump's orbit so they can shiv him in his spleen and write a book about it
The third kind works with him to make the Republic great. They get personally destroyed as collateral of the first two.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:50 PM (NYzgN)
439
"Dead Seas Scroll 11Q13 also points to the tradition of Melchizedek being associated with a Son of God. There's a few differences in the Essene tradition and the ancient Christian sects, but it's extremely close and recognizable in most regards.
Modern Jewish denominations I think associate their Messiah to come with a different OT figure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (eYoxG)"
Exactly. Not really hard to understand the difference between the "name", Jesus and who He was or his purpose in Isaiah's prophecy.
Modern Jewish denominations I think associate their Messiah to come with a different OT figure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (eYoxG)"
Exactly. Not really hard to understand the difference between the "name", Jesus and who He was or his purpose in Isaiah's prophecy.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2024 02:51 PM (9NZQU)
440
432 Back in the early 90's I watch the 1984 Dune movie on TV and was going to read the Dune book but then though to myself "I should read about the real Messiah first", started reading the Bible and going back to church and that's how I got back to Christianity.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (cMXNt)
talk about 'mysterious ways'...that's amusing
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:49 PM (cMXNt)
talk about 'mysterious ways'...that's amusing
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:51 PM (xcxpd)
441
I like The Meatball too. He is a hands on guy and gets things done even if he comes across a little stiff.
He has done a great job in Florida so far and he also would make a great VP and Director Of Ass Raping And Abolishing The FBI for President Trump.
He has done a great job in Florida so far and he also would make a great VP and Director Of Ass Raping And Abolishing The FBI for President Trump.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (Edu7X)
442
Irish Ei, thank you
You said what I was thinking better than I ever could. I had it distilled to DeSantis had alot of smoke blown up his ass
You said what I was thinking better than I ever could. I had it distilled to DeSantis had alot of smoke blown up his ass
Posted by: Ben Had at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (3NUu0)
443
Why do you hate military and veterans, big guy ?
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (V13WU)
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DeSantis was as much military as Beau Biden, maybe less so.
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (V13WU)
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DeSantis was as much military as Beau Biden, maybe less so.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (cMXNt)
444
I wouldn't know about that. I've never quisled.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (9yWhg)
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Good. You're a Moron in good standing.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:43 PM (9yWhg)
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Good. You're a Moron in good standing.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (llkOJ)
445
Then there's the whole issue of "virgin" vs. "young woman" in Isaiah 7:14.
Posted by: Zombie Walter Matthau at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (9yWhg)
446
Shall I condemn people whose favorite fruit is the lemon?
Memory cell fired on this, took me a while to track it down:
Lemon tree very pretty and the lemon flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat
Memory cell fired on this, took me a while to track it down:
Lemon tree very pretty and the lemon flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (dZVON)
447
Biden campaign released their first 2024 ad and it is...
something
Basically labels literally every person who voted for Trump as extremists and terrorists
Mkay
something
Basically labels literally every person who voted for Trump as extremists and terrorists
Mkay
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (VTu1l)
448
Said many times/many ways, there are three options:
1. Trump's the nominee
2. The R Party commits suicide by helping the left keep him from running.
3. They kill him.
There is no fourth option.
I see. So if Trump strokes out tomorrow, you'll just stay home?
1. Trump's the nominee
2. The R Party commits suicide by helping the left keep him from running.
3. They kill him.
There is no fourth option.
I see. So if Trump strokes out tomorrow, you'll just stay home?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (CsUN+)
449
An academician told me recently that journalism students should be required to take ethics courses in order to combat all the mis-, dis-, and mal-information out there.
If you guessed this academician believes all of the *actual* mis-, dis-, and mal-information propagated by mainstream media and thinks it should not be challenged by dissident voices, you would be correct.
If you guessed this academician believes all of the *actual* mis-, dis-, and mal-information propagated by mainstream media and thinks it should not be challenged by dissident voices, you would be correct.
Posted by: Emmie at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (Sf2cq)
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (gmo/4)
451
If I take a charter bus to NYC, they have to pay all the costs of my vacation?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (NYzgN)
452
Lemon tree very pretty and the lemon flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (dZVON)
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But goes splendidly in a glass of water or iced tea!
But the fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (dZVON)
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But goes splendidly in a glass of water or iced tea!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (WkNQM)
453
Oops, off sock.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (9yWhg)
454
My own opinion is that DeSantis fell for the Never-Trumpers and swamp dwellers who convinced him that he was the second coming and that Trump had to be eliminated and Ron was the only person in the world who could do it. All that butt kissing and lots of establishment $$$ went to his head (and even more to Casey's head) and here we are.
Posted by: IrishEi
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He hired ex Cruz campaign officials and the True Con strategy they pushed on him is basically a dead end. Much of the US problems driving voter behavior stem more from economics and national security policies of globalism which the GOP donors love but voters abhor. So, DeSantis focused on trannies, gays, and college DEI. All are worthy goals but insufficient for voters that are not suffering those issues much but are seeing massive inflation, high energy prices, street crime, endless problems with illegal immigrants in locales unable to handle them, massive money and arms shipped over to Ukraine etc.
Posted by: IrishEi
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He hired ex Cruz campaign officials and the True Con strategy they pushed on him is basically a dead end. Much of the US problems driving voter behavior stem more from economics and national security policies of globalism which the GOP donors love but voters abhor. So, DeSantis focused on trannies, gays, and college DEI. All are worthy goals but insufficient for voters that are not suffering those issues much but are seeing massive inflation, high energy prices, street crime, endless problems with illegal immigrants in locales unable to handle them, massive money and arms shipped over to Ukraine etc.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (8IKKJ)
455
I had it distilled to DeSantis had alot of smoke blown up his ass
Posted by: Ben Had at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (3NUu0)
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Actually, I like yours better! As they say, "Brevity is the soul of wit."
Posted by: Ben Had at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (3NUu0)
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Actually, I like yours better! As they say, "Brevity is the soul of wit."
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (llkOJ)
456
My own opinion is that DeSantis fell for the Never-Trumpers and swamp dwellers who convinced him that he was the second coming and that Trump had to be eliminated and Ron was the only person in the world who could do it. All that butt kissing and lots of establishment $$$ went to his head (and even more to Casey's head) and here we are.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (llkOJ)
However he got there, it was a dumb decision, and he might very well have ruined his chances in '28 by jumping the gun.
We've seen candidates implode before, and it's almost always their own fault when they do. I know some people here are still grieving over Fred Thompson and Rick "Three Departments" Perry.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:47 PM (llkOJ)
However he got there, it was a dumb decision, and he might very well have ruined his chances in '28 by jumping the gun.
We've seen candidates implode before, and it's almost always their own fault when they do. I know some people here are still grieving over Fred Thompson and Rick "Three Departments" Perry.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (dGCAG)
457
Trump talks and does nothing. Vivek talks and does nothing
DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM
+100
Where's the Beef?
DeSantis delivers the beef. But everybody likes Trumps sizzle in the pan.
DeSantis actually does the shit your cult heroes love talking about, but you don't care, because you're all about Twitter soundbits and "Truth" all-cap rants.
Posted by: ace at January 04, 2024 01:51 PM
+100
Where's the Beef?
DeSantis delivers the beef. But everybody likes Trumps sizzle in the pan.
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (9yWhg)
459
Attending daedalus: gene Wolfe, artiface and the reader. Liverpool University text. On Amazon paperback 4 bucks.
Posted by: Zombie George HW Boooosch at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (HgGFf)
460
I know some people here are still grieving over Fred Thompson and Rick "Three Departments" Perry.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (dGCAG)
I feel seen AND accused...
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (dGCAG)
I feel seen AND accused...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (xcxpd)
461
If you guessed this academician believes all of the *actual* mis-, dis-, and mal-information propagated by mainstream media and thinks it should not be challenged by dissident voices, you would be correct.
Posted by: Emmie
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Well, you can tell them this particular academic believes you should use multiple sources to cross check each other to come to some approximation of what reality looks like. Pragmatism and experience trumps ideology.
Posted by: Emmie
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Well, you can tell them this particular academic believes you should use multiple sources to cross check each other to come to some approximation of what reality looks like. Pragmatism and experience trumps ideology.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (8IKKJ)
462
What has Ron accomplished in FL?
You think a GOP majority House and Senate would work with ron to accomplish ANYTHING conservative?
You think a GOP majority House and Senate would work with ron to accomplish ANYTHING conservative?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (NYzgN)
463
458 Hope he didn't plagiarize anything.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (MvF+J)
464
I see. So if Trump strokes out tomorrow, you'll just stay home?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (CsUN+)
I'd advise you to stop being dumb, but I don't think you're capable of it.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (CsUN+)
I'd advise you to stop being dumb, but I don't think you're capable of it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (dGCAG)
465
Trump's team would file so that the cases were heard in a "timely" (legal term) manner, and the judges would refuse so that it would be too late.
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There was a whole bunch of fuckery in the courts to make sure Trump lost.
1) the "too soon, no damages" dismissals
2) the "docket is full, wait your turn, oh now it's too late" dismissals
3) the "Covid is a medical emergency that supercedes all measly election laws" dismissals
4) the "refuse to hear or admit evidence of fraud, so there is no fraud" dismissals
5) the "election is over, too late" dismissals
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There was a whole bunch of fuckery in the courts to make sure Trump lost.
1) the "too soon, no damages" dismissals
2) the "docket is full, wait your turn, oh now it's too late" dismissals
3) the "Covid is a medical emergency that supercedes all measly election laws" dismissals
4) the "refuse to hear or admit evidence of fraud, so there is no fraud" dismissals
5) the "election is over, too late" dismissals
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (TzW+Y)
466
"America needs Chris Christie to stay in the race.
CHARLIE SYKES"
Obese "Christie" (Cream) and "Race" should not be used in the same sentence.
CHARLIE SYKES"
Obese "Christie" (Cream) and "Race" should not be used in the same sentence.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (llkOJ)
468
But goes splendidly in a glass of water or iced tea!
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Yes, and chicken picado as well.
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Yes, and chicken picado as well.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (LVNnd)
469
Well, you can tell them this particular academic believes you should use multiple sources to cross check each other to come to some approximation of what reality looks like. Pragmatism and experience trumps ideology.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (8IKKJ)
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LOLWUT?
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:55 PM (8IKKJ)
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LOLWUT?
Posted by: Modern Academic at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (WkNQM)
470
Vivek graduated from both Harvard
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I visited the Harvard campus once just so I could honestly tell people "I went to Harvard"
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I visited the Harvard campus once just so I could honestly tell people "I went to Harvard"
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (VTu1l)
471
"He said the FBI estimates there are 15,000 active white supremacists in the United State, a nation of 330 million people."
15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
The FBI was including their embedded agents and those that fund the groups.
15,000? The FBI can suck my bozack. Maybe there's 15 or 150 in the country. If any at all. If white supremacists actually existed, we'd be bombarded 24-7 with pics and videos of them. But we're not. Gee, I wonder why?
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
The FBI was including their embedded agents and those that fund the groups.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (eoQWY)
472
Retirement rocks!
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM
Yes. Yes it does.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:28 PM
Yes. Yes it does.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (BdMk6)
473
DeSantis was as much military as Beau Biden, maybe less so.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (cMXNt)
really ? wanna talk about Trump's military service? whose would you compare it to ?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (cMXNt)
really ? wanna talk about Trump's military service? whose would you compare it to ?
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (V13WU)
474
DeSantis delivers the beef. But everybody likes Trumps sizzle in the pan.
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (+oR7L)
You really believe Trump's presidency was only sizzle and no beef?
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (+oR7L)
You really believe Trump's presidency was only sizzle and no beef?
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (v6srk)
475
All those years we worked together, I never knew that Lemmon was a fruit.
Posted by: Zombie Walter Matthau at January 04, 2024
***
Look at Jack's wife, Felicia. He was doing something right!
Posted by: Zombie Walter Matthau at January 04, 2024
***
Look at Jack's wife, Felicia. He was doing something right!
Posted by: Zombie Tony Curtis at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (J2vNu)
476
424 DeSantis is for all those who really want an Ivy League lawyer who has gotten a government paycheck his entire adult life.
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I lived in Florida during DeSantis' first term and witnessed this - short lockdown, kids back in school in August 2020, fired County DAs who weren't doing their job(prosecuting criminals), quickly repairing infrastructure after a devastating hurricane, etc. He is not a flashy campaigner, but he is a great governor.
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I lived in Florida during DeSantis' first term and witnessed this - short lockdown, kids back in school in August 2020, fired County DAs who weren't doing their job(prosecuting criminals), quickly repairing infrastructure after a devastating hurricane, etc. He is not a flashy campaigner, but he is a great governor.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (MJNum)
477
Someone noted that all Epstein's customers appear to be Leftists. How could it be any other way? I'm not arguing that the GOP is somehow more moral; that's laughable.
But it's the same reason all rich people donate the big $$$ to Democrats, and give circus peanuts to Republicans.You don't bother bribing or blackmailing the help. You go for the master.
But it's the same reason all rich people donate the big $$$ to Democrats, and give circus peanuts to Republicans.You don't bother bribing or blackmailing the help. You go for the master.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (0FoWg)
478
450 Vivek graduated from both Harvard (Biology?) and Yale (JD).
Think he got into skull & bones?
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (gmo/4)
Scroll and Key
Think he got into skull & bones?
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (gmo/4)
Scroll and Key
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (xcxpd)
479
The Vivek beat-down was gratifying, but I think I like to approach of the apple-eating Canuck better - force them to define their accusations.
Posted by: Halfhand at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (E+3bw)
480
Simply put, the peasants on the GOP coalition are rebelling because economics and living conditions more than anything this cycle matter. Not the favored social issue battles with the left which are more a state issue than federal at this point.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (8IKKJ)
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Agree. They are also revolting.
Maybe that is some of the dividing line:
Trump supporters: people who work for a living and are productive
Other supporters: media types, government employees, government adjacent types, MIC
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:46 PM (8IKKJ)
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Agree. They are also revolting.
Maybe that is some of the dividing line:
Trump supporters: people who work for a living and are productive
Other supporters: media types, government employees, government adjacent types, MIC
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (cMXNt)
481
nood
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (MvF+J)
482
I don't think trashing DeSantis' military service is a winning position. Maybe for a cultist, though....
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (V13WU)
483
458 Hope he didn't plagiarize anything.
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I heard Claudine Gay wrote a book called The Three Keys to Success: CTRL-C-V
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I heard Claudine Gay wrote a book called The Three Keys to Success: CTRL-C-V
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - National Divorce NOW at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM (VTu1l)
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And then, she ran with that EXACT headline anyhow.
Best part is, if you take Vivek's quote above - and I listened to it - when she tweets out that he "won't condemn white supremacy", she adds other quotes that, maybe he said at some point, but NOT as part of this response at all.
"stop picking on this farce of some figment that exists at some infinitesimally small fringe."
I guess that was his FIRST answer to her before she repeated her demand that he literally "condemn white supremacy".
So, yeah, as ace says, Vivek is coming from the same POV - actual "white supremacists" (15,00 total?) is accurately described as a "infinitesimally small fringe."
Best part is, if you take Vivek's quote above - and I listened to it - when she tweets out that he "won't condemn white supremacy", she adds other quotes that, maybe he said at some point, but NOT as part of this response at all.
"stop picking on this farce of some figment that exists at some infinitesimally small fringe."
I guess that was his FIRST answer to her before she repeated her demand that he literally "condemn white supremacy".
So, yeah, as ace says, Vivek is coming from the same POV - actual "white supremacists" (15,00 total?) is accurately described as a "infinitesimally small fringe."
Posted by: deadrody at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (vasL8)
485
Ron is the D1 Heisman winner who immediately steps on his dick in the NFL.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (NYzgN)
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>>>Much of the US problems driving voter behavior stem more from economics and national security policies of globalism which the GOP donors love but voters abhor.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (8IKKJ)
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Good post. Makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (8IKKJ)
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Good post. Makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (llkOJ)
487
Wokeism is an idol worshipping religion. It is also a debilitating mental disease. Being woke is like being pithed, your brain no longer works beyond a reptilian level.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (kzHlT)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (9yWhg)
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454 My own opinion is that DeSantis fell for the Never-Trumpers and swamp dwellers who convinced him that he was the second coming and that Trump had to be eliminated and Ron was the only person in the world who could do it. All that butt kissing and lots of establishment $$$ went to his head (and even more to Casey's head) and here we are.
Posted by: IrishEi
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He hired ex Cruz campaign officials and the True Con strategy they pushed on him is basically a dead end. Much of the US problems driving voter behavior stem more from economics and national security policies of globalism which the GOP donors love but voters abhor. So, DeSantis focused on trannies, gays, and college DEI. All are worthy goals but insufficient for voters that are not suffering those issues much but are seeing massive inflation . . . .
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (8IKKJ)
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Pretty much this. I would add, though, that no matter how great a campaign DS ran, there was never any lane for him so long as Trump was in the race. The idea that DS -- or anyone -- could come in and win the nomination over Trump was always wishcasting at best.
Posted by: IrishEi
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He hired ex Cruz campaign officials and the True Con strategy they pushed on him is basically a dead end. Much of the US problems driving voter behavior stem more from economics and national security policies of globalism which the GOP donors love but voters abhor. So, DeSantis focused on trannies, gays, and college DEI. All are worthy goals but insufficient for voters that are not suffering those issues much but are seeing massive inflation . . . .
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 02:53 PM (8IKKJ)
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Pretty much this. I would add, though, that no matter how great a campaign DS ran, there was never any lane for him so long as Trump was in the race. The idea that DS -- or anyone -- could come in and win the nomination over Trump was always wishcasting at best.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (iFTx/)
490
I feel seen AND accused...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (xcxpd)
Could be worse, you could be still lighting the candle for Phil Gramm.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:54 PM (xcxpd)
Could be worse, you could be still lighting the candle for Phil Gramm.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2024 02:59 PM (dGCAG)
491
"America needs Chris Christie to stay in the race.
CHARLIE SYKES"
.......
Yeah, he needs the exercise.
CHARLIE SYKES"
.......
Yeah, he needs the exercise.
Posted by: wth at January 04, 2024 02:59 PM (v0R5T)
492
It is always the economy, stupid… excepting the Ruling and the Government classes, the economy is fragile and trending badly down. Point that out, a lot, next election…
Posted by: tubal at January 04, 2024 02:59 PM (PCK5/)
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>>You really believe Trump's presidency was only sizzle and no beef?
Cult - a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.-9]
The real cult is obvious and it's not the group that is supporting the overwhelming leader of the race. Trump accomplished an enormous amount his first 3 years pretty much by himself and not in a red state with a veto proof majority. Those who don't see it are in a cult.
Cult - a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.-9]
The real cult is obvious and it's not the group that is supporting the overwhelming leader of the race. Trump accomplished an enormous amount his first 3 years pretty much by himself and not in a red state with a veto proof majority. Those who don't see it are in a cult.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2024 03:00 PM (ZLI7S)
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What has Ron accomplished in FL?
1) Election Security Reform
2) Constitutional Carry
3) Ass Raped So Many Illegal Invaders many have fled the State, Crying All The Back To Texas. (Some Labor doodad which makes it harder to hire Illegals I Believe)
The Meatball is a good hands on guy, just not flashy and well hung.
1) Election Security Reform
2) Constitutional Carry
3) Ass Raped So Many Illegal Invaders many have fled the State, Crying All The Back To Texas. (Some Labor doodad which makes it harder to hire Illegals I Believe)
The Meatball is a good hands on guy, just not flashy and well hung.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 04, 2024 03:01 PM (Edu7X)
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448 Said many times/many ways, there are three options:
1. Trump's the nominee
2. The R Party commits suicide by helping the left keep him from running.
3. They kill him.
There is no fourth option.
I see. So if Trump strokes out tomorrow, you'll just stay home?
Posted by: Archimedes
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A lot of folks will. Simply put, I don't see DeSantis currently putting together a populist coalition that includes masses of unlikely voters for the GOP. Urging people to vote against Democrats only takes you so far--to make the jump for unlikely voters--you have to promise them something more than standard social, international, and fiscal conservatism that has perpetually fizzled at the polls since Reagan.
1. Trump's the nominee
2. The R Party commits suicide by helping the left keep him from running.
3. They kill him.
There is no fourth option.
I see. So if Trump strokes out tomorrow, you'll just stay home?
Posted by: Archimedes
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A lot of folks will. Simply put, I don't see DeSantis currently putting together a populist coalition that includes masses of unlikely voters for the GOP. Urging people to vote against Democrats only takes you so far--to make the jump for unlikely voters--you have to promise them something more than standard social, international, and fiscal conservatism that has perpetually fizzled at the polls since Reagan.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 03:01 PM (8IKKJ)
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If I saw signs that Vivek was going to be pushed over the 50% mark, I'd probably jump no problem.
Vivek is the guy I had to finally come to terms with that Trump is not. But I also felt pushed into my vote the last time by Trump's popularity. And I grew to appreciate that choice more and more over time. To the point that I'm thinking it will be 3 votes in a row for Trump.
And it's not like I learned to like Trump's 2016 campaign style--which I don't think I will ever do. And I don't like his 2024 campaign style any better. So, appreciating Trump the executive has nothing to do with liking Trump the candidate.
However, I really don't like how he pushed "nationalism" as a simple synonym for "patriotism" and love of country. And he did that as President. Myself, I would rather be unburdened by supporting any self-confessed "nationalist", because a number of the founders specifically rejected the term "nation" (which we are not), and nationalism was mid-19th century *progressive* movement to solve problems *nationally*--which gave us Prohibition as a Constitutional Amendment--the only amendment that the Constitution acknowledges as a bad idea.
Vivek is the guy I had to finally come to terms with that Trump is not. But I also felt pushed into my vote the last time by Trump's popularity. And I grew to appreciate that choice more and more over time. To the point that I'm thinking it will be 3 votes in a row for Trump.
And it's not like I learned to like Trump's 2016 campaign style--which I don't think I will ever do. And I don't like his 2024 campaign style any better. So, appreciating Trump the executive has nothing to do with liking Trump the candidate.
However, I really don't like how he pushed "nationalism" as a simple synonym for "patriotism" and love of country. And he did that as President. Myself, I would rather be unburdened by supporting any self-confessed "nationalist", because a number of the founders specifically rejected the term "nation" (which we are not), and nationalism was mid-19th century *progressive* movement to solve problems *nationally*--which gave us Prohibition as a Constitutional Amendment--the only amendment that the Constitution acknowledges as a bad idea.
Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2024 03:01 PM (krQz2)
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I have this niggling feeling that DeSantis is going to do a mea culpa after Super Tuesday and approach the Trump campaign. Of course, it could just be gas too
Posted by: Ben Had at January 04, 2024 03:01 PM (3NUu0)
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>>There was an Iowa shooting? Was this today?
Yep.
Posted by: JackStraw
Another pervert shooter.
Yep.
Posted by: JackStraw
Another pervert shooter.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 03:01 PM (FVME7)
499
473 DeSantis was as much military as Beau Biden, maybe less so.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (cMXNt)
really ? wanna talk about Trump's military service? whose would you compare it to ?
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (V13WU)
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I don't have to. He was a lawyer in the military not combat. Nor do I think military service makes one a saint.
Again, DeSantis has gotten a paycheck from the government near his entire adult life. If that is what you think this country needs, vote for him.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 02:52 PM (cMXNt)
really ? wanna talk about Trump's military service? whose would you compare it to ?
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM (V13WU)
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I don't have to. He was a lawyer in the military not combat. Nor do I think military service makes one a saint.
Again, DeSantis has gotten a paycheck from the government near his entire adult life. If that is what you think this country needs, vote for him.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 03:02 PM (cMXNt)
500
Pretty much this. I would add, though, that no matter how great a campaign DS ran, there was never any lane for him so long as Trump was in the race. The idea that DS -- or anyone -- could come in and win the nomination over Trump was always wishcasting at best.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (iFTx/)
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Agree.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 04, 2024 02:58 PM (iFTx/)
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Agree.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 04, 2024 03:05 PM (cMXNt)
501
Pretty much this. I would add, though, that no matter how great a campaign DS ran, there was never any lane for him so long as Trump was in the race. The idea that DS -- or anyone -- could come in and win the nomination over Trump was always wishcasting at best.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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I think he was promised that Trump would be knocked out via lawfare and a massive media blitz before this.
DeSantis does not seem like he is having fun campaigning from the clips that I have seen but more like Fred Thompson in 08 and you have to want the ring of power to do what is necessary which is kiss the ass of votersin retail politicking in Iowa and NH.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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I think he was promised that Trump would be knocked out via lawfare and a massive media blitz before this.
DeSantis does not seem like he is having fun campaigning from the clips that I have seen but more like Fred Thompson in 08 and you have to want the ring of power to do what is necessary which is kiss the ass of votersin retail politicking in Iowa and NH.
Posted by: whig at January 04, 2024 03:05 PM (8IKKJ)
502
>>>what's Trump doing about it, Cultist,
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Why do you do this, Ace?
Posted by: IrishEi
==
Too emotional to be for pay. I suspect a woman's influence. MMMV.
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Why do you do this, Ace?
Posted by: IrishEi
==
Too emotional to be for pay. I suspect a woman's influence. MMMV.
Posted by: Because it's not logical at January 04, 2024 03:05 PM (HgGFf)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 03:07 PM (FVME7)
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482 I don't think trashing DeSantis' military service is a winning position. Maybe for a cultist, though....
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM
They are having daily fetishes about DeSantis shoes & feet, so.....
Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 02:57 PM
They are having daily fetishes about DeSantis shoes & feet, so.....
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 04, 2024 03:08 PM (+oR7L)
505
Its the N-Scale people that really chafe my caboose.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 04, 2024 03:10 PM (8C1eU)
506
You really believe Trump's presidency was only sizzle and no beef?
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM
Trumps 2016-2019 Presidency was great. I have a few small problems with some of his selections of people he chose for cabinet positions, but besides that it was wonderful.
But 2020 onward? Kind of unhinged. There are valid reasons (Covid, stress of 24/7 impeachment bullshit) I don't necessarily trust his judgement after all he's been through. He'll be a lame duck as soon as he's elected, and the vendetta tour he'll take which might be justified, will not be pretty. It will effect our country, our economy, and my family.
I want a calm guy who is going to swing the hammer when its needed. DeSantis does that for me. He's proven to govern very well. Is he perfect? No. I don't need to like my President and "want to have a beer with him". He doesn't have to be likable.
Right now, Trumps frame of mind? He's a sledgehammer and everything is a nail.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 04, 2024 02:56 PM
Trumps 2016-2019 Presidency was great. I have a few small problems with some of his selections of people he chose for cabinet positions, but besides that it was wonderful.
But 2020 onward? Kind of unhinged. There are valid reasons (Covid, stress of 24/7 impeachment bullshit) I don't necessarily trust his judgement after all he's been through. He'll be a lame duck as soon as he's elected, and the vendetta tour he'll take which might be justified, will not be pretty. It will effect our country, our economy, and my family.
I want a calm guy who is going to swing the hammer when its needed. DeSantis does that for me. He's proven to govern very well. Is he perfect? No. I don't need to like my President and "want to have a beer with him". He doesn't have to be likable.
Right now, Trumps frame of mind? He's a sledgehammer and everything is a nail.
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 04, 2024 03:22 PM (+oR7L)
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Flat Earthers actually outnumber white supremacists, and probably at least a quarter of those 15,000 are undercover law enforcement. From a standpoint of political effectiveness, it's a dead movement. The white supremacists in any given major city would struggle to fill a Waffle House to capacity.
They were dead in the 90s, when I was in high school. In one of the most rural parts of Florida, the KKK decided to protest at my school. It was hyped and scaremongered for weeks leading up to it...
6 people showed up.
Dead f-ing movement. Giving them attention is the only thing even keeping them on life support, so you really have to ask why the Democrats want to keep them around so badly.
They were dead in the 90s, when I was in high school. In one of the most rural parts of Florida, the KKK decided to protest at my school. It was hyped and scaremongered for weeks leading up to it...
6 people showed up.
Dead f-ing movement. Giving them attention is the only thing even keeping them on life support, so you really have to ask why the Democrats want to keep them around so badly.
Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 04, 2024 03:24 PM (gJKGU)
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Speaking of churning up anti white-supremacy rage against a phantom menace, the first Biden 2024 ad just dropped. And guess what it features as its GOTV message?
Posted by: red speck at January 04, 2024 03:25 PM (0Id0S)
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507 >>>6 people showed up.
This reminds me of an AoS post on white supremacy that I screen-grabbed, which asserted that the number of supremacists would be outnumbered by an adult My Little Pony convention that had just occurred in DC.
This reminds me of an AoS post on white supremacy that I screen-grabbed, which asserted that the number of supremacists would be outnumbered by an adult My Little Pony convention that had just occurred in DC.
Posted by: red speck at January 04, 2024 03:28 PM (0Id0S)
510
Why did you stop listening to Ya Boi? I still do, though he's on hiatus to fulfill his late books, he definitely lost a step, and I think he's sabotaging himself in a lot of ways, but he was on fire the last month or so before new years.
Posted by: Receptaculum Ignis at January 04, 2024 03:32 PM (g4em/)
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Just watched The Station Agent for the first time last night. Pretty good movie. Train enthusiasts are a weird breed.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (MNhXM)
Not quite as weird as the Moron Horde. Almost. A commenter at Intsy called the comments here a "trash fire".
Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 01:53 PM (MNhXM)
Not quite as weird as the Moron Horde. Almost. A commenter at Intsy called the comments here a "trash fire".
Posted by: Statistical statistics at January 04, 2024 03:36 PM (iODuv)
512
I was today years old when I learned that there are still WNBA games being played.
Posted by: SMOD 2024 at January 04, 2024 03:45 PM (Y2NGV)
513
That reporter must really be into humiliation kink because Twitter community noted her back into oblivion today when she came out and tried to mislead everyone in exactly the manner Vivek said she would.
You have to wonder whether she is that oblivious and incapable of rational thought, or whether she is intentionally running a scam on ignorant readers.
You have to wonder whether she is that oblivious and incapable of rational thought, or whether she is intentionally running a scam on ignorant readers.
Posted by: Thatch at January 04, 2024 03:52 PM (d4mJo)
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"Had [DeSantis] talked and acted like Vivek from the beginning I bet he would be neck and neck with Trump or even leading"
DeSantis is one of those rare politicians who can walk the walk, but not talk the talk. He's not a good public speaker, and he's not quick on his feet in debate. My feeling is that we're looking for a chief executive, not a chief spokesperson, which is why I support DeSantis; but in today's media-saturated environment, talk matters. (That is, unless you're a Democrat, in which case having the mental prowess of a head of cabbage is no bar to being elected president.)
DeSantis is one of those rare politicians who can walk the walk, but not talk the talk. He's not a good public speaker, and he's not quick on his feet in debate. My feeling is that we're looking for a chief executive, not a chief spokesperson, which is why I support DeSantis; but in today's media-saturated environment, talk matters. (That is, unless you're a Democrat, in which case having the mental prowess of a head of cabbage is no bar to being elected president.)
Posted by: Nemo at January 04, 2024 04:18 PM (S6ArX)
515
Most of our News we see or read and hear is all Fake News Propaganda not News
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 04, 2024 05:34 PM (wGqjj)
516
"Tomorrow is my last day at work as I retiring.
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024
***
Archer -- soon to be known as Tamerlane the Second!
Congratulations on the retirement, sir. I hope to join the club this spring myself."
Gentlemen - congratulations to you both! As someone who has been retired for a fair number of years, I can assure you, it is definitely worth it. May both of you enjoy a long, healthy, and fulfilling retirement!
Next, I will be running for emperor. If I can have your support, I can promise my throne will look upon a massive pile of the skulls of our enemies.
Thank you.
Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024
***
Archer -- soon to be known as Tamerlane the Second!
Congratulations on the retirement, sir. I hope to join the club this spring myself."
Gentlemen - congratulations to you both! As someone who has been retired for a fair number of years, I can assure you, it is definitely worth it. May both of you enjoy a long, healthy, and fulfilling retirement!
Posted by: Retired, thank God! at January 04, 2024 05:56 PM (9BIt9)
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368 OT: But despite all the conflict in this thread....that kind of conflict between morons is good, useful and healthy. I kinda love to see it. Not in a trolling kinda way, obvs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
I concur. I don't read the comments to be confirmed in my opinions; I read them so they can expand my understanding of what is going on in our country today (and in the past as well). Most of the comments are well thought out and informative, and even those that are a little bit sketchy get me thinking - which is a good thing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 04, 2024 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
I concur. I don't read the comments to be confirmed in my opinions; I read them so they can expand my understanding of what is going on in our country today (and in the past as well). Most of the comments are well thought out and informative, and even those that are a little bit sketchy get me thinking - which is a good thing.
Posted by: Retired, thank God! at January 04, 2024 06:04 PM (9BIt9)
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Postscript: the reporter went ahead and chopped up his quote to fit her agenda anyway and tweeted it - and took a fusillade of ratio.
Posted by: Patchy at January 05, 2024 06:37 AM (I/Pe0)
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