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Hamas Official: Say, Just Blue-Skying It Here, What If We Drop This Whole "Israel Must Be Destroyed" Mishegas?
Israel's oldest, bitterest, most implacable foe once again demanded that Israel cease its war against the glorious liberation movement of Hamas.
Israel is losing international support due to its "indiscriminate bombing" of Gaza, US President Joe Biden said, issuing his most scathing critique of Israel since the start of the war and calling for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to switch out his coalition partners. "Israel's security can rest on the United States," Biden stated during a campaign event Tuesday, as he touted his government's strong support of Israel. Right now, however, Israel has wider support than just the US, Biden explained, as he pointed to the European Union and the international community which has also backed the Jewish state in the aftermath of Hamas' October 7 attack.If Israel will just stop doing everything within its power to hold Hamas accountable, Biden vows the US will do everything within its power to hold Hamas accountable. What? Biden also said he chastised Netanyahu about his "indiscriminate" bombing, and Netanyahu pointed out that the US had bombed Nazi Germany and dropped atom bombs on Japan. Biden conceded this but said that we set up "institutions" to stop this from ever happening again.
"But they're starting to lose that support by the indiscriminate bombing that takes place" in Gaza, Biden said, in a statement that implied Israel was needlessly targeting civilians. Speculation is high that Biden will ask Israel to constrain its military campaign to oust Hamas from Gaza as attention in Washington is redirected to the 2024 run for the White House within in a geo-political atmosphere of low Democratic support for the Gaza war. ... [Biden] has remained staunch in his support providing military and financial aid. The US will "do everything in our power to hold Hamas accountable -- every single thing in our power. They're animals. They exceeded anything that any other terrorist group has done," Biden said on Tuesday.
Biden alluded to a private conversation in which the Israeli leader said: "'You carpet bombed Germany, you dropped the atom bomb, a lot of civilians died.'"It was a mistake to go to war in Afghanistan? And Biden thinks we "carpet bombed" Germany?
Biden said he responded: "Yeah, that's why all these institutions were set up after World War Two to see to it that it didn't happen again ... don't make the same mistakes we made in 9/11. There's no reason why we had to be in a war in Afghanistan."
What a scholar. He's a doctor like his wife is. Well, I guess I'm being pedantic. We certainly did fire-bomb Germany industrial centers. But not "carpet-bomb." That's a different thing. He's old. And when he was young, his brain was still... how best to say... small and rotten and set on rape. In any event, Israel is not "indiscriminately" bombing. In fact, they're avoiding bombing as much as they can, putting troops in harm's way by going house to house when they could, if they wanted, just level the houses.
Netanyahu responded obliquely to Biden-- with contempt.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has hit back at growing international calls for a ceasefire, insisting that "nothing" will stop his country's mission to destroy Hamas, the Palestinian terror group that attacked Israel on Oct. 7. Netanyahu struck the defiant note a day after the 193-nation U.N. General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to demand a ceasefire in Gaza, the densely populated and Hamas-ruled Palestinian enclave that has been the subject of near-relentless Israeli bombing for more than two months. More than 150 nations backed the resolution demanding a ceasefire, with 23 abstentions, and only 10 countries, including the U.S., voting against the call. But Netanyahu on Wednesday appeared unfazed by the vote, saying during a visit to a military detention facility in northern Israel that "we are continuing until the end, until victory, until the elimination of Hamas," according to the Times of Israel. "Nothing will stop us," he added.Israel also says the days of the "two-state solution" are over, which again puts them crosswise with Grampa Funnyfingers.
Another significant divide is emerging between the U.S. and Israel, with a senior Israeli diplomat saying the country "absolutely" would not accept a two-state solution following the war. This runs counter to long-standing U.S. policy objectives in the region, as well as recent Biden comments. Yesterday, a State Department spokesperson said "there can be no lasting peace and security" without a Palestinian state.
Israel has begun The Big Flush.
Israel has begun the process of flooding the network of tunnels beneath Gaza in an effort to flush out the impacted Hamas assets lodged there, according to U.S. officials who spoke to the Wall Street Journal. The Israeli military operation has so far involved the installation of seven massive pumps and testing the process of flooding the Hamas holes with water from the Mediterranean Sea, and now the great enema has begun in earnest.Supposedly -- and I do not know if this site is trustworthy and if it is, how good this tip is -- Qatar can't guarantee the safety of the Hamas leaders hiding out there in luxury any longer:
Israel War RoomYou know how Christiane Amanpour denies that Hamas has terrorist bases inside hospitals? Well somehow Israel forces are fought and defeated Hamas terrorists inside a hospital.
@IsraelWarRoom
#BREAKING: Initial reports suggests that top Hamas brass in Qatar have been told to leave for Algeria, as their security can no longer be guaranteed.
IDF troops from the 460th Combat Brigade of the 162nd Division operated in the Kamal Adwan Hospital area with the Shin Bet, with scores of Hamas terrorists being killed or detained. During the operation, the IDF troops located a building close to the hospital that was being used by Hamas terrorists. An exchange of fire took place, in which a number of Hamas terrorists were killed. Some 70 terrorists surrendered and left the building with their weapons and were detained and taken for interrogation by the Shin Bet. Kamal Adwan Hospital is in the Beit Lahiya area north of Gaza City, near the Israeli border.And now, with Hamas' terrorists being killed and captured and its ratholes being flushed like the toilets they are, Hamas say -- say, how about we reverse our decades old vow that we would never, ever recognize Israel as legitimate and real nation? How does that sound to you guys? Oh sure we will immediately repudiate that the recognition the moment you've withdrawn your troops, but we will recognize you as a state for about 35 hours if you just give us a ceasefire to let us regroup and hide the billions we collect from donations from other countries. The Hamas official had broached this possibility earlier today by the PLO's (also fake) recognition of the state of Israel, and saying that Hamas might consider following the PLO's path, if Israel gives them the ceasefire they crave.
I don't think Israel is going to buy that. And anyway, Hamas is already walking it back.
Earlier today, he told Al-Monitor, "You should follow the official stance... that the PLO [Palestine Liberation Organization] has recognized the state of Israel." Hamas politburo chief Ismail Haniyeh said yesterday that he is open to talks for ending the ongoing war and "putting the Palestinian house in order both in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip," potentially leading to a "political path that secures the right of the Palestinian people to their independent state with Jerusalem as its capital."
Senior Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk tries to walk back comments he made earlier, suggesting that his terror group could recognize Israel for the first time as a step toward Palestinian unity. Abu Marzouk tweets that there was a "misunderstanding of media statements." He asserts that "Hamas does not recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation and does not accept giving up any of the rights of our Palestinian people. We affirm that the resistance will continue until liberation and return." "Several points and phrases mentioned in my interview with Al-Monitor were distorted and do not express my position and the position of the movement, which has not changed," he adds.
Brilliant! Latest clip from @Eretz_Nehederet on Gaza and Hamas. pic.twitter.com/0vjceF8HB8
— Arsen Ostrovsky 🎗️ (@Ostrov_A) December 13, 2023
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:11 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: GF at December 14, 2023 03:12 PM (aJxr8)
Cowards.
The, of course, won't be dropping it in reality. They'll just stop saying it out loud, as Muslims have been trained to do by their demented prophet.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 14, 2023 03:12 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 14, 2023 03:13 PM (tlsIq)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2023 03:13 PM (vYWu5)
Posted by: Max Power at December 14, 2023 03:13 PM (q177U)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 14, 2023 03:14 PM (s5c1p)
I'll ask them to pinky swear to consider slowing down their attempts to kill Jews before giving them another $4,000,000,000 a year.
Posted by: Full Diaper Joe Biden at December 14, 2023 03:14 PM (R38qh)
All while Biden seems to have no influence at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:14 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 14, 2023 03:14 PM (s5c1p)
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"That some sort of Jewish Pop Band?"
-DU, 99.9% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:15 PM (GBKbO)
Let's not bicker and argue over who raped who!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2023 03:15 PM (vYWu5)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 03:15 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 14, 2023 03:16 PM (bDHsC)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2023 03:16 PM (R4t5M)
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LOL. It's been a while since someone used that one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:16 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 03:15 PM (J2vNu)
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Dresden was a thing.
The firebombing of Japan killed far more people than the two A-bombs.
America fought WWII like it wanted to win it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:16 PM (+Rtz8)
"Nothing will stop us," he added.
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The only correct answer when it comes to the UN.
Well, no. Another correct answer is, "LOL! Nah, bro. Fuck off with that shit. Y'all are 'tards."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:17 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2023 03:17 PM (vYWu5)
-The US for the past 78 years
"...hey..."
-Fascist Italy, forgotten
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:17 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2023 03:17 PM (uKeRS)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2023 03:18 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2023 03:18 PM (RIvkX)
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And the past 70 odd years demonstrate that there can be no lasting peace and security with a Palestinian state, either.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:18 PM (zxP/x)
#BREAKING: Initial reports suggests that top Hamas brass in Qatar have been told to leave for Algeria, as their security can no longer be guaranteed.
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If true, this translates as "They're coming for you no matter what and we'd rather our skyscrapers not get blown up. GTFO."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:19 PM (zxP/x)
Whether an intentional or unintentional allusion to an enema, it's fitting.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 14, 2023 03:19 PM (lg881)
Wut? What "institutions" were set up to stop the US from bombing countries with which we're at war? The UN?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:19 PM (R38qh)
#BREAKING: Initial reports suggests that top Hamas brass in Qatar have been told to leave for Algeria, as their security can no longer be guaranteed.
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If true, this translates as "They're coming for you no matter what and we'd rather our skyscrapers not get blown up. GTFO."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:19 PM (zxP/x)
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This news has fascinated me for the past few days.
It'd be funny if Mossad not only got the Hamas leadership but also got their money and then airdropped it into the ocean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (EGSGm)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (R4t5M)
Oh, there is still a remnant of the previous republic and people who still think they live there, but our country has been conquered by evil.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (N1tpc)
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The amount of UN dirty laundry that is about to exposed to sunlight might be giving a *lot* of people in the Palestine cash complex a whole lot of pause.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (zxP/x)
Wut? What "institutions" were set up to stop the US from bombing countries with which we're at war? The UN?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:19 PM (R38qh)
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Also, how many wars has America won since these "institutions" took over?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: JT at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (T4tVD)
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First the Jews trick Hamas into killing 1,500 of their fellow Jews and kidnapping another 250, now they're luring Hamas into hospitals so they can capture them for PR victories?
Is there no limit to the evil craftiness of the Zionist entity???!!
Posted by: Jack Package at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (8LP6B)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (XqcwY)
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Well, okay then. Keep those pumps and tanks running.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (zxP/x)
New meaning to...'Fleet's In!!"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (hH3Px)
The palis already had their "state" for over 30 years, in Gaza and the West Bank since the mid-90s, and technically since the late 40s. They squandered it decades ago.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2023 03:21 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (uKeRS)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (RSbhh)
And in any other war you want to win you have to do the same sort of things.
Since WWII the US has lost almost all its major conflicts from Vietnam to the WoT.
Why? Because we fought the way Biden suggests.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (ZV+pB)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM
What are you all gawking at?! Ain't you never seen the 'and of God before?!
Posted by: RSM RedMindBlueState, marching up and down the square at December 14, 2023 03:23 PM (jA9ul)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:23 PM (zxP/x)
It's war, unconditional surrender is the only card on the table.
Think twice about starting one again.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 14, 2023 03:23 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Hammer Dog at December 14, 2023 03:23 PM (bZOES)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2023 03:23 PM (NYzgN)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (ZV+pB)
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (naJFg)
Posted by: RSM RedMindBlueState, marching up and down the square at December 14, 2023 03:23 PM (jA9ul)
Allah must have been momentarily distracted.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (vYWu5)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (uKeRS)
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Precision wasn't precise enough, plus British retribution for Coventry.
But we *did* carpet-bomb Japanese cities. LeMay's incendiary campaigns were enormously destructive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (ZV+pB)
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Mars was a short trip for the Mossad. Those guys don't screw around.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (XqcwY)
Which is why he wants Israel to do that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (di6C2)
Or the institutions that are all now incredibly corrupt?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (l8gTz)
If only someone of stature would stand up and call the resident a pervert, show the evidence, then refuse to do business with the gov't.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2023 03:25 PM (Angsy)
Then look the other way when a Mossad hit squad blows through town...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 14, 2023 03:25 PM (7fElN)
Funny thing about Grenada - they elected a leader that didn't like the US and started getting friendly with the Soviets.
His minions then decided to go on full Soviet Bloc when he was out of the country and pull a coup. The US nominally then was acting to put him back in power.
And to his credit he stayed on team USA from that point forward.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:25 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (zxP/x)
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Some of the most interesting stuff in the documentary The Fog of War, largely a long interview with Robert McNamara, is his recollection of his time as some low level staffer on the team that helped plan the bombings.
He says flatly that if they had lost the war they would have been prosecuted for war crimes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
To quote a certain senior Democrat
It worked..didn't it?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 03:26 PM (hH3Px)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (ZV+pB)
Arguably, we also won the cold war.
Well, we defeated the Soviet Union. Looking around my former country, it seems they may have defeated my republic as well. It was just a slower acting poison.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 14, 2023 03:27 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2023 03:27 PM (wn0yo)
Oh, and FJB. He can pound sand, too.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 14, 2023 03:27 PM (aXxgO)
His minions then decided to go on full Soviet Bloc when he was out of the country and pull a coup. The US nominally then was acting to put him back in power.
And to his credit he stayed on team USA from that point forward.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:25 PM (XqcwY)
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Most people forget that briefly conquered the Dominican Republic over communists taking potshots at our diplomats. The commies were looking to unseat the pro-American strongman and made the terrible mistake of shooting at our diplomats. We were on the fence about intervention in that conflict until that happened.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:27 PM (zxP/x)
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How do you chant "Fuck Joe Biden!" in Hebrew?
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 03:27 PM (naJFg)
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Wut? What "institutions" were set up to stop the US from bombing countries with which we're at war? The UN?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023
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Leave it to a committed * leftoid like F. Joe to fall back on the concept of "institutions," i.e., government, handling things under all circumstances.
( * Unfortunately he hasn't been committed; he's still here outside the asylum with us)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 03:27 PM (J2vNu)
With all the high tech, expensive, equipment we and the Israelis have we are sending ground pounders in to get shot.
I guess in Israel's case they can argue that's what you have to do to save hostages - but in our case we SHOULD have been doing "air raiding" as Kerry put it or "indiscriminate bombing" as Biden puts it.
Destroy a few cities from the air and suddenly the local scum won't want to ally with the jihadis...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:28 PM (XqcwY)
Like faaaaar out to sea.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2023 03:28 PM (wn0yo)
War has become far less terrible than it should be.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:28 PM (GBKbO)
He says flatly that if they had lost the war they would have been prosecuted for war crimes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:26 PM (GBKbO)
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We surely would have. Our "war crimes" were far less than Japan's, but the winner is the winner and gets to set his own scale.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:28 PM (zxP/x)
Let Hamas have CA, NY, Chicago, LA, Philly, or any other us LIBERAL Shit-Hole !!!!!
The State and City Governments in these locals are just as F**ked Up as Hamas and the people living there would not notice any change...
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:28 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 14, 2023 03:28 PM (uKeRS)
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He already did - "The Biden administration wants the IDF to wrap up the current phase of “high intensity” fighting in Gaza within weeks, US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan told Israeli leaders during meetings today in Tel Aviv, an Israeli official tells The Times of Israel.
A second Israeli official says the US has pushed for the current phase to wrap up by the end of 2023...... The New York Times also reported that the US is pushing for Israel to end large-scale fighting by the end of the year.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office responded to the report saying that the premier “made it clear that Israel will continue the war until we complete all of its goals.”
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:29 PM (V13WU)
So?
How many grunts lives is it worth for some pencil pusher in the DoD to feel better about himself after a war?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:29 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 14, 2023 03:29 PM (bDHsC)
Think twice about starting one again.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 14, 2023
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Their great-grandchildren, if they have any, should think twice about starting another war.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 03:30 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:30 PM (V13WU)
When your Industrial War Machine is people assembling Weapons and Ordnance at their Kitchen Tables, you are asking for this.
Imperial Japan put the entire population to work for the War effort.
Sucked to be them.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:30 PM (+Rtz8)
Where the fuck were they when hamass went off the reservation?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2023 03:30 PM (dNGXd)
Yes it did. The USAAF ran out of city centers to burn before the end of the war. The two atomic bombs did 3% of the damage to cities. The rest we burned out.
Underreported, the USAAF conducted a mining campaign after the cities were burnt out. No intercostal traffic, as we isolated every harbor and fishing hamlet.
But we should be more humane, and give every Pali in Gaza and the Hamas terrorists in pre-execution custody, a Pfizer COVID-19 Wuhan vaccine. Because we are givers.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:31 PM (u82oZ)
BTW. The Tamil Tigers invented the high explosive suicide vest. Lovely people.
Sri Lanka had finally cleared and isolated the Tamil Tigers to a small area. They brought up the army and proceeded to attack and destroy any Tiger resistance. The UN and all the NGOS were absolutely apoplectic that Sri Lanka was not stopping to "negotiate" with the Tamil Tigers, but merely killing and capturing any of them they could find. They stopped the insurgents once and for all.
Recently, Sri Lanka was in the news because the Leftist government decided unilaterally to ban all Herbicides, Pesticides and Fertilizers. All of them with no warning.
Obviously food and export agriculture products collapsed. Foreign Exchange reserves disappeared, and imports like oil and suddenly FOOD skyrocketed in price. So the government was in deep trouble with riots and such.
Guess what didn't happen? No reignition of the Tamil insurgency.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 03:32 PM (du+H4)
Israel already relented on Hamas. The Oct. 7 massacre was the direct result.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 14, 2023 03:32 PM (G6qJm)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2023 03:32 PM (R4t5M)
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh !!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:32 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:32 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Zombie Anwar Sadat at December 14, 2023 03:33 PM (hqVaF)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 14, 2023 03:33 PM (nnp+f)
GFY, Sullivan.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:33 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2023
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Yes; in some ways it is just as if the Apaches or Comanches had gone marauding among the settlers outside the reservation.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 03:33 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:33 PM (V13WU)
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We used napalm throughout the war. It clears jungles and makes the targets dance.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (+nRli)
So?
How many grunts lives is it worth for some pencil pusher in the DoD to feel better about himself after a war?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2023 03:29 PM (XqcwY)
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I think his point was largely just that the bombing was...very large and very expansive.
I think there's an argument that war crimes might be an effort to legalize rules of conquest, elevating the legalese over anything else.
Essentially, my view is if a country starts a war, they need to expect that every inch of their nation will become a battleground. It's an important consideration to make.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (EGSGm)
The Pali's are dumber than reservation Indians. They should have built casinos and time shares rather than rockets.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (u82oZ)
Underreported, the USAAF conducted a mining campaign after the cities were burnt out. No intercostal traffic, as we isolated every harbor and fishing hamlet. ...
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:31 PM (u82oZ)
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There is an argument - and it isn't totally insane - that had the USN had marked merchant preference for the submarine fleet instead of a warship preference (the warships were more or less decoys by 1943 and the IJN was not a powerful force to be reckoned with), it might have obviated the need for the nukes (though probably not the overall strategic bombing campaign) by starving them out a lot more quickly in both food and resources.
When the wolf packs were set on merchant shipping, Japanese survivability started to collapse quickly. It didn't happen until later 1944, though, and by then virtually everything was coming to pieces anyway. No way to test the theory and its hard to argue with the final outcome.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (zxP/x)
I'm not saying I never missed a spot shaving while hurrying to get to work, but I wasn't going on national television!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (8Ta2Y)
Not what I would have gone with.
Something more like:
"We've done no such thing. You are either lying or being lied to by your administration. Either way you should resign, you senile, corrupt piece of fucking shit."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (IG4Id)
And fuck biden blinkin and sullivan
"extremists"??? FU
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (PQ4m2)
Not just pro-Hamas. They are pro 10/7 at something like 75%.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 14, 2023 03:32 PM (G6qJm)
THIS!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (gSZYf)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:34 PM (zxP/x)
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The military's assumption was that the mainland would be worse than Iwo Jima.
And Iwo Jima sucked.
I completely understand and support the A-bomb usage to end WWII.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (R38qh)
right , right, they supported 10/7 at higher percentage than gaza palis
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (V13WU)
Soylent Green Energy
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (+Rtz8)
Fuck that.
Destroy Hamas' utterly.
Don't listen to FJB, Bibi.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (ufFY8)
Then that got them Oct 7.
Fuck that. Try something different.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (di6C2)
Posted by: DOYLE at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (Z8Yh2)
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I don't think it is. I think it's losing the support of career politicians and ignorant protestors. But, I'd be very surprised if the vast majority of coherent individuals across the globe aren't shrugging and saying:
"You fvcked around...now, you're finding out."
Posted by: Orson at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (dIske)
Priceless.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (mQ8ar)
Posted by: Hamas In Their Tunnels! at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (fwDg9)
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That's what I call karma.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (mupln)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2023 03:38 PM (RSbhh)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:38 PM (V13WU)
My erection grew 3 sizes that day.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:38 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:37 PM (+Rtz
I heard something where a couple people were discussing soylent (that drink that is supposed to be 'sustainable' and so forth.) Evidently, they have come out with a few varieties. There was the first one, then red I think, then the newest 'Green.'
The people discussing it said the green tasted a lot better than the previous ones.
I really hope they were fucking with their audience.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:39 PM (di6C2)
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (R38qh)
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The only ones who were not in full agreement with Hamas on 10/7 are the ones who were smart enough to understand how Israel would react.
They still want to destroy Israel. They just think Hamas attempted to do it in a stupid, stupid, stupid way.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 14, 2023 03:39 PM (7fElN)
I think the USAAF B29s were still working on flattening some Japanese cities in the Kuril Islands up by Russia when the war ended.
Fun fact. The Japanese Army had orders to kill every POW and Internee on the day the main islands were invaded. The A Bombs stopped that from happening.
Fun Fact 2. We are still handing out the Purple Heart medals minted in 1945 in anticipation of the horrific casualties we would receive in the invasion of Japan that never happened after the A Bombs ended the war.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 03:39 PM (56o9O)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2023 03:40 PM (4p0Xq)
And Iwo Jima sucked.
I completely understand and support the A-bomb usage to end WWII.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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That assumption was almost certainly correct. The Soviets had a fairly easy time of it when they landed on Hokkaido, but Hokkaido wasn't well defended - everything was in the south to greet the Americans.
But that isn't exactly the point of the hypothetical. The point of the hypothetical is that if we had gone after merchant shipping with full aggression starting in, say, mid 1943, it would have been devastating enough that Japan's production and food situation would have been so destroyed that the war would have ended without the atom bomb and with no (or a fairly easy) initial ground invasion of the home islands.
Again, no way to test it and so its all just so much mental masturbation, but the efficacy of the US submarine forces against Japanese merchant shipping was staggering once the US got around to it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:40 PM (zxP/x)
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The enema of my enemy is a loose end.
Netanyahu 2024 -- Make Enemas Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 03:40 PM (7MTdG)
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He doesn't want his staffers to quit.
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 03:40 PM (v0R5T)
When are you going to use the proper pronouns when talking about the Mostly Peaceful Hamas Terrorist Dogs !!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:40 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2023 03:41 PM (f6jeS)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:41 PM (V13WU)
WAR CRIME! WAR CRIME!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 03:41 PM (YAtuc)
WAR CRIME! WAR CRIME!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 03:41 PM (YAtuc)
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*Checks pantry*
Nope. Still all out of fucks to give...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 14, 2023 03:42 PM (7fElN)
My erection grew 3 sizes that day.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:38 PM
With this 1 Weird Trick?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2023 03:42 PM (jA9ul)
Think if your daughter had gone to a concert and paratroopers jumped in, raped then beheaded her and also live streamed it for the jacking off of other assholes.
STILL think this is over the line- or but a pale shadow of what these assclowns deserve?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:42 PM (di6C2)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:42 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 03:42 PM (v0R5T)
Good. Salt their lands.
There's not enough of drinking from your enemyies skulls anymore. And it shows!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM (dNGXd)
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 03:39 PM (56o9O)
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Yup. That campaign was assumed - probably correctly - to be monstrously expensive.
And it would have ended up with a divided Japan. Nearly did anyway. Roosevelt (then Truman) did *not* want Stalin in that war. They gave Stalin free reign over Japanese possessions in Mongolia and Manchuria instead. Stalin doesn't listen too good, though, and did it anyway. The Soviets were in the process of trying to take Hokkaido when the war ended. They weren't very good at amphibious warfare and they had a lot of losses, but had the Japanese not surrendered to us - and it was to *us* and not the allies - then the USSR probably would have ended up with half of Japan like they did with Korea.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM (NYzgN)
Go fuck yourself, you mouth breathing retard.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM (bNcG+)
It didn't happen. What happened is, our scurrying little farts who speak for Biden have spoken to whoever they need to in Israel, and told them this is what we're gonna say got said.
The Israelis go along with it, because they get assurances from the scurrying farts, that we don't mean any of the "tough talk" they're going to put in Biden's mouth.
All of this is just theatrics.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 03:41 PM (YAtuc)
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It might.
Hamas can avoid that outcome if it wishes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (zxP/x)
That is a valid argument, except for the fact that NavOrd insisted their torpedoes worked great, and the sub skippers were lousy shots.
USS Nautiles hit a IJN carrier (ISTR Kaga) at Midway, and the torpedo broke in two. The air flask saved some IJN sailor's lives.
We needed to fix the torpedoes first, install radar on the subs, and get a Wolfpack command system first.
We were already hitting tankers as priority targets.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: UGAdawg at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (tRd71)
Must be practicing a speedy retreat like they did in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (V13WU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbfccVBo9tE
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (RSbhh)
Israel is doing them a personal favor. Just saying.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (vnZnr)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (u82oZ)
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Oilers and navy ships, yup.
The argument - an easy one to make in retrospect, but much harder in the moment - was that the IJN was essentially a dummy force anyway and we would have been better served going after merchant shipping.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:45 PM (zxP/x)
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Mousa Abu Marzouk. Which translates to "Moose out front should have told you."
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 03:45 PM (v0R5T)
"Biden" and "staunch" are two words that probably don't belong in the same sentence.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2023 03:45 PM (W/lyH)
Just about the scariest book I know.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 14, 2023 03:45 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:45 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 14, 2023 03:22 PM (ZV+pB)
It also means the Mossad has their number and are just ratcheting up the paranoia. Make them suffer a bit.
Plus, they've run to Algeria (so Qatar says). Bad shit happens there all the time.
My fear is that Kalorama will give them asylum here in the US.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2023 03:46 PM (BdMk6)
https://is.gd/oqHIQF
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:46 PM (R38qh)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:46 PM (Mig/N)
How does that sound to you guys?
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Much like Pedo Joe & The Junta's promise to -- and daily insistence that they did -- secure the southern border.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 03:46 PM (ln072)
Must be coming out of Shaw.
Chasn is mostly cargo transport.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 03:46 PM (hH3Px)
Amazingly in spite of burning out 56 square miles of Tokyo they still wanted to fight.
If the invasion happened, Japan had over 9,000 attack planes with another 3,000 fighters waiting.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2023 03:46 PM (f6jeS)
In fact, since the bomb fell on Nagasaki, every "war" we've been part of since then was a mistake.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (63Dwl)
Save Harvard? Destroy Harvard? Academia is the Titanic getting sheared in half. There will be no saving. Only prolonged pretending for a limited time.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (44ww/)
The IJA had correctly decided where the US forces would land on Kyushu, what time, and what date.
We had no strategic, operational, or tactical surprise. We undercounted the kamikaze planes and boats by a lot. The new target was troop transports.
We still would have won, but at a very, very high cost.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (u82oZ)
a 6 year old boy on a bed of US Dollars.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (di6C2)
Posted by: DOYLE at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:48 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 03:48 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2023 03:48 PM (I80YN)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2023 03:48 PM (fwDg9)
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He is too subtle.
If a meteorite strikes his funeral? That would be something.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 03:48 PM (2a2jC)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (u82oZ)
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Absolutely. It would have been attrition, at least as far as the kamikaze go. Anti-kamikaze tactics were getting better, but they were also picking softer targets. They'd have had no fighters left, but would have extracted a terrific blood price.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 03:47 PM (dGCAG)
Agreed. We decided to play at war and that in of itself is immoral because the currency is your young people's lives.
Kick some ass or stay home.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (di6C2)
We would have had to kill women and children in the streets if it came to a land invasion.
The Japanese were full on crazy for the Emperor.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (+Rtz8)
. http://tinyurl.com/39jp7nh7
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (9qEDG)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2023 03:50 PM (I80YN)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 03:50 PM (bNcG+)
Where is Neil Young and Country Joe and the Fish ???
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:50 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2023 03:48 PM (I80YN)
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"No one wants to register your guns!!!" is so 2022.
And
"No one wants to confiscate your guns!" will soon seem so 2023.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 03:52 PM (2a2jC)
Where is Neil Young and Country Joe and the Fish ???
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:50 PM (Mig/N)
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Campaigning for Joe Biden.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:52 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2023 03:53 PM (/HDaX)
The non-replication problem is a dark horse stalking the modern world. We're building a Tower of Babel on top of a mound of shit and the consequences are impossible to predict accurately, but I can't see how we're digging ourselves out. I can imagine real consequences in engineering, medicine, chemistry etc. poison pilling decades of attempts at advancement.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 03:54 PM (R38qh)
I bet they're not going to get put in the comfy chair, either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ncJ6ciGyM
Posted by: RonF at December 14, 2023 03:55 PM (NAyZt)
This is a triumph of our system of checks & balances and a step forward for justice, reaffirming that no one is above the law.
Oh wait a minute, Pelosi said that about Bannon and not Hunter Biden............ Nevermind ........
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 14, 2023 03:55 PM (Mig/N)
This bullshit is dragging down our President. We have problems of our own and his plate is full. Let them have their own fucking war and their hate filled so called corrupt democracy
the US almost unilaterally militarily aiding Israel with few conditions...basically allows Netanyahu and his coalition of radicals to destroy the Palestinians at will... turn into a suicide pact for American democracy.
it will likely blow out large chunks of our Dem voting demographics and vastly aid Trump in his march for a fascist American dictatorship post 2024.
Love the people of Israel. BUT I hate the leaders of Israel.(weird feeling they are trying to help pooty destroy our country)
Tel Aviv has a subway station named after Trump!
So permanent apartheid. Great. Obviously there will be another 10/7 down the road. And another after that. And on and on. Excellent plan.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 14, 2023 03:55 PM (JCZqz)
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office responded to the report saying that the premier “made it clear that Israel will continue the war until we complete all of its goals.”
So. Set a timeline...that worked well in Afghanistan didn't it?
Or...
Setting a goal.
Which one will work better I wonder?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2023 03:56 PM (W/lyH)
If you take military aid from the Americans, you're playing a risky game.
If you take advice from Americans about how to use it, you're a traitor to your country.
If you knuckle under to Americans, you're a traitorous retard and cuck.
America is to be exploited. You don't ever listen to them. You don't ever put yourself in a position to be bullied by them. You rip them off, rob them blind, and then pants them in front of a laughing world.
You do not, under any circumstances, actually take any shit from those sorry-ass Chesapeake Bay shitstains.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 14, 2023 03:56 PM (0FoWg)
If you take advice from Americans about how to use it, you're a traitor to your country.
If you knuckle under to Americans, you're a traitorous retard and cuck.
America is to be exploited. You don't ever listen to them. You don't ever put yourself in a position to be bullied by them. You rip them off, rob them blind, and then pants them in front of a laughing world.
You do not, under any circumstances, actually take any shit from those sorry-ass Chesapeake Bay shitstains.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 14, 2023 03:56 PM (0FoWg)
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I remember deterrence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:57 PM (zxP/x)
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Let them drink the wine in their heaven.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (TzW+Y)
If we had laid siege to Japan, it would have been Stalingrad in three months, with mothers cooking and eating their babies.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (nnp+f)
Yep, that would be my go-to also.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2023 03:13 PM (vYWu5)
What are the Hebrew initials for FJB?
And the horse, I mean Doctor, you rode in on.
Posted by: Just Lily at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (w9Dpi)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (44ww/)
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Lasting peace and security? Oh yeah, that's gonna happen. Dumbass.
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (v0R5T)
the best wars are the ones we don't actually declare through constitutional processes, so they can just drag on and on endlessly as we continue to change goals and tactics but never actually play to win, because the actual goal is to keep passing giant defense spending bills full of graft so we can skim off more and more with each passing year because you support the troops, don't you?
Posted by: Uniparty at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (AR07F)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 14, 2023 03:55 PM (JCZqz)
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Weird that Biden isn't making this better. Probably because he's so good at diplomacy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 03:38 PM
With this 1 Weird Trick?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2023 03:42 PM
Doctors say avoid this ONE food...
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (4p0Xq)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM
You are too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (EGSGm)
I bet they're not going to get put in the comfy chair, either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ncJ6ciGyM
Posted by: RonF at December 14, 2023 03:55 PM (NAyZt)
Whoo-ee, ride me high
Tomorrow's the day that my bride's gonna come
Whoo-ee, are we gonna fly?
Down into the easy chair...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (mQ8ar)
Or...
Setting a goal.
Which one will work better I wonder?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2023 03:56 PM (W/lyH)
If the goal is to win, definitely the goal is better. Timelines always lead to defeat or shitty compromises.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (4p0Xq)
Typical New Yawker bullshit. New Yawk bagels are good because of the mineral content of the water, and the way that it reacts to the dough. Very little to do with technique.
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NY bagels are good for the same reason the BBQ where you grew up was the best, and your granny's cookies were the best, and your dad made the best waffles.
People who aren't from NY can't tell much of a difference. Or care.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (Mig/N)
And?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (PQ4m2)
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As opposed to the current fascist American Democrat dictatorship.....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (TzW+Y)
Posted by: Just Lily at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (w9Dpi)
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פגב
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (PTdof)
Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: UGAdawg at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (tRd71)
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His brother Joni was the only Israeli Military casualty when they rescued the hostages at Entebbe Uganda on July 4, 1976.
Bibi was there too.
The Ugandans later murdered an elderly woman who was taken to a Ugandan hospital for treatment.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (Fjhlp)
"But not "carpet-bomb." That's a different thing."
Thousand bomber raids where the average accuracy of each bomber was over 2 miles from target?
Yes, that was carpet bombing. It happened.
Posted by: Speller at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (pSotA)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (bNcG+)
Oh bullshit!
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM
His countrymen want it finished. Imagine how we'd feel if a bunch of terrorists did this in Ohio somewhere or anywhere for that matter. After getting bombed and attacked every year.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (4p0Xq)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (hH3Px)
100% of the reason food tastes better from 'home' is the regional yeast. You are imprinted on that flavor.
Naturally occurring yeast is different in all regions. And some of it is more palatable than others.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (PQ4m2)
P.S. I take gift cards.
Posted by: Z-dog at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:04 PM (6Y/Rl)
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A fascist oligarchy, if you can keep it.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 04:04 PM (+zNfy)
Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (rj6Yv)
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How many has he abandoned in GAZA?
Oh, that's right. They are Dual Citizen hostages. They don't count.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 04:04 PM (Fjhlp)
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Save some of the chicks for the rest of us, Israel.
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:04 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM
You are too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2023 04:00 PM (a3Q+t)
That's probably true. Someone as cynical as me should probably be at least 130.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:05 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (PQ4m2)
Older brother, right?
Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2023 04:05 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: garrett
With this 1 Weird Trick?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Doctors say avoid this ONE food...
Posted by: Minnfidel
Avoid naked pictures of Nanshi Pelloshi …
Posted by: Things Morons Say . . . at December 14, 2023 04:05 PM (4Winp)
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Close.
They're filthy Jews. That's the key.
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:05 PM (6Y/Rl)
So. Hamas failed to build their Tunnel System to Code and risked damage to the aquifer?
How irresponsible of them.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:05 PM (+Rtz8)
Oh bullshit!
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:02 PM (gmo/4)
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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised that it would at least damage the aquifer for the short term. The ground in Gaza is super porous.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (PTdof)
30 Did you see - that Turkish politician who got a heart attack after his anti Israel rant died
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (EGSGm)
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The Mossad coagulated his blood with a microwave death ray1!
-The Same Arabs Who Won't Admit That Yassir Arafat Died Of Aids That He Caught By Porking His Bodyguards Up Their Asses
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (7xqnr)
Posted by: Montec at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (Tll0L)
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Oh no.
Anyway........
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (fs1hN)
Call it a 'colonic'* and the leftists will go for it.
*now with coffee.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (PQ4m2)
Older brother, right?
Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2023 04:05 PM (rj6Yv)
Yes. Bibi was in Boston studying at MIT
This is not a knock on Bibi Netanyahu, just a fact
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (V13WU)
.......
And I thought Milley was bad...
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (v0R5T)
Kick some ass or stay home.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2023 03:49 PM (di6C2)
Yup, two rules of war should be: 1. Don't go into it unless your enemy is an existential threat. B. Once you go, finish the damn thing once and for all.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: the dandy at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (w83EC)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (wtvvX)
They just couldn't keep flying around and risk being shot down.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (nnp+f)
'I want to see tight bomb groups!'
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: the dandy at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (w83EC)
Spot On
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:07 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (pIx7m)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (4p0Xq)
The Biden administration just ran the largest November budget deficit in history... and it managed this feat even with a 9% increase in government receipts.
Posted by: SMOD at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (RHGPo)
Call it a 'colonic'* and the leftists will go for it.
*now with coffee.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM (Rbu5d)
Colonization!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (gmo/4)
Seems none of them are left to rush on over to the Mediterranean and save the Peaceful Children of Pandora and Gaza from the Greatest Evil of All Time....
Weird how then so many are left re-upping their enlistment in the 101st Keyboard Battalion of Blue America.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (TzW+Y)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (+Rtz8)
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No, that'll be caused by Global Warming.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 03:43 PM (dGCAG)
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Old & Busted: Failure Theater.
New Hotness: Tailor Theater.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (+zNfy)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 04:09 PM (bNcG+)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:09 PM (YAtuc)
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You teach people by debellating the enemy of the moment. We did that. We annihilated the German and Japanese and Italian regimes. Dead. Kaput.
Along with a horrifying number of their civilians.
For half a century, every cocksucking wannabe Hitler or Tojo or Mussolini took a few beats wondering whether to fuck with the big dog. And then they looked at the terrified, desperate faces of their hapless subject classes, who were in turn looking at the moment when they may actually have *nothing* left to lose, and thought better of that bullshit.
That's the point of annihilating a Dresden or a Tokyo.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 14, 2023 04:09 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (PQ4m2
I thought he was. Thanks for the correction.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 04:09 PM (Fjhlp)
If your Bagel is not Boiled, it's crap.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:09 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (d1mAO)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (6Y/Rl)
People who aren't from NY can't tell much of a difference. Or care.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (6Y/Rl)
My grandmother's cookies were disgusting.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (gmo/4)
His brother was commanding the operation, and was killed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (YAtuc)
Primary was Kokura.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:09 PM (YAtuc)
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After the war it was Gojira, unfortunately for Tokyo.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (pIx7m)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 14, 2023 04:06 PM
And getting more porous by the day 😁
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 14, 2023 04:11 PM (4p0Xq)
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But gas prices are down 12 cents from this time last year!!!
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:11 PM (6Y/Rl)
Kind of makes me sick.
Posted by: DOYLE at December 14, 2023 04:11 PM (Z8Yh2)
Don't start Wars
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2023 04:11 PM (fwDg9)
While serving as the commander of the Pacific Air Forces, the typically reserved Brown made headlines by releasing a deeply personal video in the wake of the 2020 police killing of George Floyd. In the video, he said he was “full with emotion” for “the many African Americans that have suffered the same fate as George Floyd”
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)
It's all fuck around with protests and rallies and talk until it's time to find out. Don't start none. Won't be none.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (YRsIm)
The faster they killed the enemy, the faster they could go home and fuck the prom queen.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (+Rtz8)
Flood the tunnels with seawater...and he'll stay clean for the rest of his life.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (hH3Px)
check out the last video in ace's post !
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 14, 2023 04:08 PM (wtvvX)
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* snort AND golf clap *
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (+zNfy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:03 PM (PQ4m2
I thought he was. Thanks for the correction.
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His older brother Yonathon Netanyahu was killed while serving as commander of the rescue mission at Entebbe.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (lf83v)
@Breaking911 27s
DEVELOPING: Suspect Sought After Attempted Abduction of at Least 3 University of Arizona Students: Police
"Law enforcement has described the suspect as a man with a dark complexion, potentially Hispanic, standing between 5 feet 10 inches and 6 feet tall, with a medium to heavyset build and “close buzz cut hair,” according to the Tucson police. "
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (IG4Id)
This is the way. (As long as you remember the 10% for The Big Guy)
Posted by: Volodymyr Zelenskyy at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (JCZqz)
My father was stationed in Kokura during the Korean War. The local population was very aware that they had almost gotten nuked.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (YAtuc)
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Ha. I had one that made outstanding meals but struggled with deserts, and another that sold her highly-sought-after deserts to local folks and church members for special occasions but who couldn't cook a Sunday meal that anyone really looked forward to.
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: wth at December 14, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)
Yes, he will be a very woke pentagon SOB. It is going to a disaster
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:10 PM (gmo/4)
I saw a meme recently: "I hope you get what you deserve" can either be the nicest thing or the meanest thing you can say to someone.
My response: "I hope you don't get what you deserve" is the kindest thing you can say to some people.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:14 PM (dGCAG)
I went to the University of Arizona...
It would be really hard to pick just one of the hot chicks there to abduct.
I see how this guy fucked up.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:14 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 14, 2023 04:14 PM (TzW+Y)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 04:14 PM (V13WU)
DEVELOPING: Suspect Sought After Attempted Abduction of at Least 3 University of Arizona Students: Police
"Law enforcement has described the suspect as a man with a dark complexion, potentially Hispanic, standing between 5 feet 10 inches and 6 feet tall, with a medium to heavyset build and “close buzz cut hair,” according to the Tucson police. "
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Wow, it's shocking that when your nation accepts slavery then criminals who deal in slavery will try to collect slaves.
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:15 PM (6Y/Rl)
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The aquifers are not being damaged by the sewage contamination from Hamas and Islamic Jihad ripping out the sewage pipes to make rockets out of them.
Or the Gazans just not installing the sewage pipes in the first place.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2023 04:15 PM (QuFPg)
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Well, then. How many black people are there sticking fentanyl packs up their ass?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:15 PM (lf83v)
Funny how that never gets mentioned, isn't it?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:15 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (6Y/Rl)
All my grandparents were gone before I hit adulthood. And then I saw how my father treated his grandchildren, and see how my mother treats hers, and I realize just how much I missed.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:16 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Just Lily at December 14, 2023 03:58 PM (w9Dpi)
פגב
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 14, 2023 04:01 PM (PTdof)
Someone smarter than me should market that, hats, bumper stickers, t-shirts, etc. and it would all be an inside baseball thing. Only those who know would recognize it and smile.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 14, 2023 04:16 PM (hEv4o)
Those 9 US Citizens give Hamas Leverage that Joe Biden wants them to have.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:16 PM (+Rtz8)
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There were tens of them in the last 25 years.
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:16 PM (6Y/Rl)
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curious phrasing there
Posted by: Don Black at December 14, 2023 04:16 PM (geLO8)
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It won't. And Israel should slant-drill and suck it dry.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 14, 2023 04:17 PM (wzAuc)
Just sayin'.
My mom's a good cook generally, but she couldn't cook a burger or a steak to save her life.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 04:17 PM (R38qh)
You may be able to make an argument for those tactics with Japan. Not with Germany. To be clear I am not defending the Germans actions in any way. But we knew their weaknesses. We knew for instance what it would take to knock out their industrial production, fuel supply and the assets needed to wage war. Done the right way, we could have walked into Germany. But the British were all too keen to bomb the civilian population, I would say, out of frustration. There was almost no military objectives that could be met by killing a bunch of civilians. If they support the regime, you break their spirit by killing the regime and it's military operation. We didn't win the war because we hombre and firebombed civilians. We won because we ultimately destroyed their capacity to wage war and then fought their army until they had no option but to surrender.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 04:17 PM (bNcG+)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:17 PM (lf83v)
Now do the medical code for "not Vaccinated for Covid'.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 04:17 PM (hH3Px)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (w+7qh)
Posted by: BurtTC
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I'm sorry, and I mean that. There is a very special relationship there in families that love each other.
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (bNcG+)
Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (pIx7m)
Posted by: Charles Q. Brown at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: the dandy at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (w83EC)
But her cookies were ridiculously good. She did a little shortbread popover with homemade raspberry jam tucked inside then dusted with powdered sugar that was sublime.
And her chocolate chip cookies were awesome. And peanut butter. And buckeyes. And pecan dandies.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (Gsry9)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:16 PM (6Y/Rl)
Who died of a drug overdose while in police custody?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (gSZYf)
Oops! Forgot to mention that Israel has been the subject of near-relentless rocket attacks from Gaza for two decades.
Posted by: Half Dozen at December 14, 2023 04:19 PM (eHovo)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:19 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2023 04:19 PM (rj6Yv)
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""My straw reaches allllllll the way over here... and I drink your milkshake!"
Posted by: Don Black at December 14, 2023 04:19 PM (geLO8)
DEVELOPING: Suspect Sought After Attempted Abduction of at Least 3 University of Arizona Students: Police
"Law enforcement has described the suspect as a man with a dark complexion, potentially Hispanic, standing between 5 feet 10 inches and 6 feet tall, with a medium to heavyset build and “close buzz cut hair,” according to the Tucson police. "
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2023 04:13 PM (IG4Id)
Now you're just being greedy. Three seems quite unmanageable. I mean, all those arms and legs, you're bound to lose your grip on one, as you're trying to hold onto an other.
Unless he was just sitting in his van saying "Hey you, kid. Come here. I got some nice candy for you to nosh on." In which case, is that really a kidnapping attempt, when they're college girls?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:19 PM (dGCAG)
The British knew how inaccurate their night bombing was.
Basically, they bombed residential neighborhoods because they couldn't hit anything smaller (and frequently missed the neighborhoods anyway).
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:20 PM (YAtuc)
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I would assume so. Did you watch that Minneapolis is a Flaming Sh*thole video? It was crazy to see that Georgie's prior arrest was nearly identical to his last (ha) one.
Pulled over, start eating all the drugs, start talking about momma, start resisting...
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (pIx7m)
When I was in school there, I had a 65 VW Bus and we would regularly roll up on my GF and 'snatch' her off the street.
Only had one incident where someone called the Police.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (+Rtz8)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:19 PM (dGCAG)
Sign: Free UGG slippers!
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (gmo/4)
But not "carpet-bomb." That's a different thing."
Oh for fuck's sake. It is not hard to find literally hours of footage of 250/500lb dumb bomb impacts rolling across entire towns and cities, and tens of thousands of still pics of the results. The bomb sights were not nearly as accurate as hoped and the shift to night bombing didn't help either - so if you want to level a factory in town, you're most likely leveling the town in the process.
It's literally the classic example of carpet bombing, which has nothing to do with intent and is simply a method. It also stands in stark contrast to Israel using GPS guided single munitions, obviously.
Posted by: somedood at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (N9SfE)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 14, 2023 03:20 PM (EGSGm)
He rides the barbed cock of Satan, now, but he still thinks it's allah, the dumfuck
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (jFM6N)
Jewish reelection money or youth votes.
No offense meant to anyone.
He's trying to walk the line. We all know how well Joe walks. This doesn't end well for him.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 14, 2023 04:22 PM (FxH7T)
Payback for the Blitz. Payback is a bitch.
The original "don't want none, don't start none".
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2023 04:22 PM (dNGXd)
And the Usual Suspects are already claiming that Israel poisoned him.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (YAtuc)
There was some very cogent and cromulent discussion of penguins in last night's Café, which you might want to pass along to your Penguin Liberation Front buddies.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (a3Q+t)
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That'll lose them a lot of support on the left.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (iWA0V)
Kind of makes me sick.
Posted by: DOYLE at December 14, 2023 04:11 PM (Z8Yh2)
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The commies have spent a century emasculating & infantilizating The West in general and America in particular.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (+zNfy)
And the Usual Suspects are already claiming that Israel poisoned him.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (YAtuc)
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I had no idea Kevin Spacey had added "crazy conspiracy theorist" to his repertoire.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (GBKbO)
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amazing ! they had prior knowledge of his rant? incredible !
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (V13WU)
It will change your mind.
Posted by: Orson at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (dIske)
And the Usual Suspects are already claiming that Israel poisoned him.'
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Who poisoned the 33 year old lefty journalist that was insisting that purebloods be loaded up on trains and sent to gas chambers because they were killing grandmas?
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:24 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2023 04:24 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (6Y/Rl)
Yes, I posted it in the sidebar...it was horrible and depressing.
I figure there are a lot more people who have died of ODs during and after arrests. Drug addicts tend to get arrested...a lot!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2023 04:24 PM (gSZYf)
Posted by: NIKKI HALEY WAS HERE at December 14, 2023 04:18 PM (6Y/Rl)
Yeah, my dad's mother in particular, was so embarrassingly affectionate, I could have used some of that as I got older.
His dad was almost absurdly treated with respect, I was quite young when he died, but remember thinking it was comical how all the adult men responded to him.
I could have used some of that too, seeing it through older eyes.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:24 PM (dGCAG)
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Two heart veins were 100 percent occluded.
How was he even alive before he started his "Ananias and Sapphira" impersonation?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:25 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2023 04:25 PM (gmo/4)
It will change your mind.
Remember too how many "Republicans" fought tooth and nail for McCarthy. His public comments didn't tell a single one of them anything new about Kevin.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 14, 2023 04:25 PM (R38qh)
Yeah. Joo sharks with lasers on their heads.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2023 04:25 PM (dNGXd)
And the Usual Suspects are already claiming that Israel poisoned him.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (YAtuc)
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From the DU? lol
Perhaps it was a Mossad agent in the audience who used a spy fountain pen to shoot him with a poison dart during his tirade. Brilliant!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 14, 2023 04:25 PM (pIx7m)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2023 04:26 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Nikki Haley's verified online persona at December 14, 2023 04:26 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: KT at December 14, 2023 04:26 PM (rrtZS)
I would argue that with the proper will to win the war, and our current arsenal at hand, carpet bombing is not necessary to win.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (hH3Px)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (bDHsC)
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He is survived by beloved two children and a grieving goat.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (lf83v)
Not one instance of "Imagine".
It's sweet. Solid blind buy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
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I have believed this for a long time. America hasn't waged total war to victory since August 1945. Our leaders have been half-assing it ever since. I think some of it came from being embarrassed at having so much military power. Pulling our punches, so to speak. Can't nuke everybody.
Posted by: Don Black at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (geLO8)
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That's first order thinking. Who cares if annihilating Dresden makes the Krauts back down? You're all set to mop them up anyway.
You do it just to show everyone else... we'll topple your faggot regime, and we'll visit unspeakable depredations on your sissybitch people just for the fuck of it.
DON'T MAKE US COME OVER THERE.
Pour l'encouragement des autres, for the cultured Moron.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (0FoWg)
From the DU? lol
Perhaps it was a Mossad agent in the audience who used a spy fountain pen to shoot him with a poison dart during his tirade. Brilliant!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 14, 2023 04:25 PM (pIx7m)
Frank Drebin from The Naked Gun with his cufflinks.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (N3zMI)
We’re here for the son’s graduation tomorrow.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (bDHsC)
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Neat!
Have a beer at The Cellar for me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
Only had one incident where someone called the Police.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2023 04:21 PM (+Rtz
If you're of a certain age you can get away with that. Needless to say though, the wider the gap between you and the girls, the less people think it's funny.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:28 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 04:28 PM (J2vNu)
cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you
Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at December 14, 2023 04:28 PM (v0R5T)
I would argue the point missed.
Posted by: DOYLE at December 14, 2023 04:28 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2023 04:28 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (hH3Px)
Of course. Accuracy is now measured in inches. The problem is the will to destroy the appropriate targets.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2023 04:29 PM (gSZYf)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2023 04:29 PM (bNcG+)
It will change your mind.
Posted by: Orson at December 14, 2023 04:23 PM (dIske)
I can imagine, don't need to read it.
My problem is, I'm not sure getting rid of him did any good.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:29 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2023 04:30 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
It was surprisingly good, and didn't take itself too seriously.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2023 04:30 PM (gSZYf)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2023 04:24 PM (2cS/G)
A very common story, which is why they were called THE GREATEST GENERATION. They did their job for G-D Family and Country and them went back to family and work. And they never asked for much in return. Your Grandfather was and American Hero
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2023 04:30 PM (PQ4m2)
I would argue that with the proper will to win the war, and our current arsenal at hand, carpet bombing is not necessary to win.
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I would argue that it's almost entirely all money laundering.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's verified online persona at December 14, 2023 04:30 PM (6Y/Rl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
It was surprisingly good, and didn't take itself too seriously.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2023 04:30 PM (gSZYf)
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And no Imagine!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 14, 2023 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 14, 2023 04:29 PM (dGCAG)
I beg to disagree.
Posted by: Frank Luntz's sphincter at December 14, 2023 04:31 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2023 03:15 PM (J2vNu)
Carpet bombing is a tactical bombing, putting lots of bombs on enemy troops in a defense, hopefully destroying the defenses and laying out a "carpet" for your men to move through without interference. It was done first at St. Lo in the breakout at Normandy after which we moved across France at a high rate of speed.
Bomb raids on cities are strategic bombing, which is another thing all together.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 14, 2023 04:32 PM (eoQWY)
@KariLake
On Sunday, North Carolina deputies pulled over a tractor-trailer for a traffic violation. A search of the vehicle discovered enough Fentanyl to kill 27 million people.
This WMD had come in through Mexico just 48 hours before.
The open-border policies of
@DNC
allowed this poison to enter our country.
We must finish the wall, secure our border, & ensure it never makes it in at all.
https://is.gd/oWegYF
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 14, 2023 04:33 PM (+zNfy)
Posted by: red speck at December 14, 2023 04:34 PM (0Id0S)
But we *did* carpet-bomb Japanese cities. LeMay's incendiary campaigns were enormously destructive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:24 PM (zxP/x)
No, we fire bombed Japan. That's not the same thing as carpet bombing which is a *tactical* bombing technique.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 14, 2023 04:35 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: jayhawkone at December 14, 2023 04:36 PM (hM+4v)
Unintentionally? bolstering the phony claim that Hunter's bribes were Hunter's business via incompetence... or incontinence?
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2023 04:38 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Montec at December 14, 2023 04:38 PM (Tll0L)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2023 03:44 PM (u82oZ)
++++
Oilers and navy ships, yup.
The argument - an easy one to make in retrospect, but much harder in the moment - was that the IJN was essentially a dummy force anyway and we would have been better served going after merchant shipping.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 14, 2023 03:45 PM (zxP/x)
We did go after merchant shipping against the Japanese in WWII as priority. There were some operating in support of battlefleets but we were working on the merchant shipping from day one.
But the Pacific is a big ocean.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 14, 2023 04:43 PM (eoQWY)
I would argue that with the proper will to win the war, and our current arsenal at hand, carpet bombing is not necessary to win.
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I would argue that it's almost entirely all money laundering.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's verified online persona at December 14, 2023 04:30 PM (6Y/Rl)
Carpet bombing was not incredibly effective in WWII - the troops at St Lo found it difficult to navigate the blasted landscape there even with very limited blowback from defenders. Modern precision munitions would do a better job with less firepower.
Even with the delay, though, after some work the breach in the line could not be plugged because air cover made moving troops around Normady extremely difficult and costly. Any unarmored vehicle moving in daylight risked getting strafed or bombed or both.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 14, 2023 04:48 PM (eoQWY)
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That's first order thinking. Who cares if annihilating Dresden makes the Krauts back down? You're all set to mop them up anyway.
You do it just to show everyone else... we'll topple your faggot regime, and we'll visit unspeakable depredations on your sissybitch people just for the fuck of it.
DON'T MAKE US COME OVER THERE.
Pour l'encouragement des autres, for the cultured Moron.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 14, 2023 04:27 PM (0FoWg)
Its total war. Every gun, tank, plane, or ship was made by civilians. Every field ration was cooked by civilians, and the ships and often trucks that got them were driven by civilians.
Dresden was a major transport center and had factories supporting the German war effort, just like all the other cities we had been bombing the entire war.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 14, 2023 04:52 PM (eoQWY)
???
Not a single thing. Thye could kill double, triple, quadruple the number of Gazans, and flatten every building, if that was their goal.
When I hear about Hamas casualties, my response is...so? When I hear about people in Gaza suffering, it's like telling me the families of Nazi sympathizers had it especially hard during WWII. Yeah, and...? I mean...what? Am I supposed to feel sorry for them? Why exactly?
Posted by: Garbled memo at December 14, 2023 04:57 PM (mvURQ)
my buddy who is arab Christian told me that u can always tell an arab muslim by he way they pronounce initial "p's: they can't do it, they make it a "bee" sound instead.
Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2023 05:29 PM (MHgZ+)
2 waves of civilians, including women and children came in after the first wave of hamassholes committed atrocities and butchery.
They tortured raped and killed survivors of the first wave.
Posted by: kallisto at December 14, 2023 05:34 PM (MHgZ+)
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 14, 2023 06:00 PM (wGqjj)
It has become a truism to remind people: the only way to win a war is to put an eighteen year old with a rifle on a spot of ground. You cannot win with an air war against a determined enemy. And say what you will about Hamas, but I think everyone agrees they are determined.
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