Surprise! The Taxpayer-Funded State-Department-Sponsored Company "NewsGuard" Rated Liberal Sites with a 91% Average Trustworthiness and Conservative Sites with a Failing 65%

Which tells advertisers not to advertise on those sites.

Sites like The Daily Caller, The Federalist, the Daily Wire, etc.

But Huffington Post? Highly trustworthy! Fortune 500 corporations -- please fund these strictly factual sites!

The first amendment guarantees liberals the right to use government-coerced taxpayer monies to punish speech they don't want anyone to hear. That's the gist of it, right?

In a study published Tuesday, Media Research Center (MRC) Free Speech America found that NewsGuard, the taxpayer censorship giant self-tasked with rating media outlets on reliability, "overwhelmingly favored left-leaning outlets over right-leaning ones." This is the third year MRC Free Speech America has exposed NewsGuard for its partisanship, and, according to MRC, NewsGuard has become "even worse" than years prior.
Using AllSides, an organization that classifies media outlets by their "right" to "left" bias, "MRC researchers determined that NewsGuard provided a stellar average 'credibility' rating of 91/100 for 'left' and 'lean left' outlets (e.g., The New York Times, The Washington Post, TIME, Vox)," wrote MRC researchers. Meanwhile, "right" and "lean right" outlets, such as Fox News, the New York Post, and The Daily Wire, were given "an outrageously abysmal average score of 65/100."
"NewsGuard's rating for right-leaning outlets in particular was worse than the still-low 66/100 average rating it slapped on right-leaning media across the prior two MRC studies released Jan. 6, 2023 and Dec. 13, 2021," MRC noted.
One of the strongest examples of NewsGuard's brazen bias is how it excused legacy media outlets' false labeling of the New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop story as "Russian disinformation" back in 2020.
The Washington Post, USA Today, and Politico -- all outlets that discredited the story -- were given "flawless 100/100 scores." The seriousness of what these legacy media organizations did cannot be understated. As MRC noted, polling indicates that suppression of the laptop story played a deciding role in the 2020 election.
According to MRC, NewsGuard's decision to ignore the discrediting of the laptop story isn't surprising, given that NewsGuard itself contributed to its suppression. Indeed, "NewsGuard co-CEO Steven Brill joined CNBC just before the 2020 election to castigate the Hunter Biden laptop story as a probable Russian 'hoax,'" MRC wrote in its report.
While outlets that engaged in journalistic malpractice and election interference are given gold stars, NewsGuard severely punishes conservative outlets like The Federalist. NewsGaurd gives The Federalist a failing 12.5/100 score. "After roughly two years," wrote MRC, "NewsGuard is still criticizing The Federalist's questioning of the efficacy of masks for COVID-19." At the same time, liberal CNBC, which has a "95" NewsGuard rating, "cited a study showing that cloth masks were only 37 percent effective at filtering out virus particles," wrote MRC.
In another example of NewsGuard's double standard, the organization gave Not the Bee a 62.5/100 score "in part because it supposedly 'does not disclose that the site advances a conservative perspective that is apparent in its content,'" MRC reported. "This is grossly hypocritical in light of NewsGuard's perfect scores for blatantly liberal outlets like the explicitly left-wing New York Times," MRC pointed out.

...
"NewsGuard wields its ratings as a cudgel, attempting to scare away advertisers from doing business with media and organizations that have been accused of promoting so-called 'misinformation' or wrongthink on a whole host of issues like abortion, climate change, COVID-19 and elections," explained MRC. "In so doing, NewsGuard effectively strips media outlets with which it disagrees of their ad money, slowly bleeding out their coffers."
As MRC demonstrates, NewsGuard is a political arm of the left, yet it receives hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding from Biden's Department of Defense. "This is the same Biden administration that tried to erect a radical Disinformation Governance Board tied to leftist billionaire George Soros to collaborate with Big Tech companies to target Americans' speech on social media platforms," wrote MRC.
News Guard also received funding from Big Pharma....
MRC is calling on Congress to cease illegally funding an organization that is actively destroying free speech in the U.S. in its pursuit to shut down conservative outlets.

Read the whole thing.

In very much related news: Biden told his FCC that they ought to look into his political enemy Elon Musk, and you'll never guess what the FCC did next.

Here's the background on Starlink, a program designed to provide the internet by satellite to places too poor or too remote for laying cable transmission wires:

The program is supposed to close the "digital divide" by ensuring that every person in America can access high-speed internet. Given the country's geography, some people will never get traditional internet service simply because the expense of getting cables to their homes is astronomical. The program was to go into effect in 2025, allowing providers to expand their infrastructure. Starlink was one of several providers serving various areas.
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Starlink was supposed to close that gap, making subsidies available to people who couldn't otherwise afford the high startup costs of setting up the service.
Back in 2020, the FCC identified Starlink as the most viable solution to closing the digital divide for over half a million Americans--a decision so glaringly obvious that only a fool would deny that it was the best available solution.

Brendan Carr, a dissenting member of the FCC, explains:

Brendan Carr
@BrendanCarrFCC
Last year, after Elon Musk acquired Twitter, President Biden gave federal agencies the green light to go after him.
And they have.
Today, the FCC adds itself to the growing list of federal agencies engaging in the regulatory harassment of Elon Musk.
I dissent.

President Biden stood at a White House podium & stated that Elon Musk "is worth being looked at."
When asked "How?", President Biden responded "There's a lot of ways."
There certainly are. The DOJ, FAA, FTC, NLRB, SDNY, & FWS have all taken action.
The FCC now joins them.
The FCC's recent decision - like many of the other actions being taken by federal agencies against Musk - fits the Biden Administration's pattern of regulatory harassment.
It is a decision that cannot be explained by an objective application of law, facts, or policy.
First, the FCC revokes Starlink's $885 million award by making up an entirely new standard of review that no entity could ever pass and then applying that novel standard to only one entity: Starlink.
The decision does not even grapple with the evidence--it simply ignores it.
Second, rural America ends up paying the highest price for this decision.
Over 642,000 rural homes & businesses would have gained high-speed Internet access for the first time ever under the deal.
But the FCC just vaporized that commitment & replaced it with . . . nothing.

Remember when the left demanded the FCC revoke the Starlink reward because Musk refused to, what was it, automatically make it freely available to be used in Biden's military targeting in Ukraine?

Well, there you go. Biden demands that citizens make their own private property available for free for use in his military games and if they don't comply, the government changes the rules and revokes a grant.

This guy wants to know about the Fish and Wildlife Services investigation -- was that an exaggeration?

Nope.

Qweentoshi
@qweentoshi
US Fish and Wildlife services? Seriously?
Brendan Carr
@BrendanCarrFCC
Some blue land crabs were reportedly found charred after a SpaceX launch.

We need to start seriously talking about imprisoning these motherfuckers. We need the public to get ready for it. We need them to understand the need for it, and the justifications for it.

The Democrat Party cannot just weaponize its partisans to use their taxpayer-paid jobs and Constitution-powered jobs to headhunt their political enemies.

And if they do: We headhunt them back.

Michael Schellenberger just testified about the CISA, which supposedly has the task of defending the country against hacking by China and Russia, but which has decided that what really gets their juices flowing is shutting down conservative American speakers because they don't like Trump.

Michael @shellenberger: "If you set aside for a moment the Orwellian aspects of @CISACyber efforts at mind control, what do we think the consequences could be of CISA taking its eye off the cybersecurity ball, so it can crusade with Stanford interns against wrongthink?" pic.twitter.com/nu3ei7g3v6
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) December 13, 2023

Remember, we have to re-elect Biden because... Biden will protect us against Trump's weaponization of the government against his enemies!

While this is certainly amusing remember these people are manufacturing a justification for wide-scale state violence against their political opponents https://t.co/uuSZ13FSAE
— Auron MacIntyre (@AuronMacintyre) December 15, 2023

This.

Cannot.

Go on.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:15 PM

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Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:15 PM (R4t5M)

2 Fuck you, they sneer.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:16 PM (R4t5M)

3 Build your own NewsGuard!

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at December 15, 2023 02:17 PM (lTUrV)

4 "Ace of Spades is 0% because of misinformational cruelty."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

5 If Trump wins, dogs and cats will be living together.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2023 02:18 PM (guGkK)

6

Turtles, all the way down...

Posted by: Pigeon Tits Mcgee at December 15, 2023 02:18 PM (cGskm)

7 They did a statistical analysis and product charts.

They therefore produced truth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)

8 While this is certainly amusing remember these people are manufacturing a justification for wide-scale state violence against their political opponents

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"It was completely justified for the Biden administration to manufacture tens of millions of votes to retain power. It will preserve democracy."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

9 7 They did a "statistical" analysis and product charts.

They therefore produced truth.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)

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FIFY.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

10 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 15, 2023 02:20 PM (T4tVD)

11 Ace, this is interesting: Some "migrants" are bringing IED's now as they check in at Hotel Southern Border.

Ah, it's "probably nothing", as Karine Mop-Head would say.

https://shorturl.at/sKMZ9

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 15, 2023 02:20 PM (DtGk7)

12 There's nothing "Liberal" about Progressive Commies.

Posted by: XTC at December 15, 2023 02:20 PM (sm6Pk)

13 Bunch of mousy little shits in plastic glasses and $5,000 frump clothes acting like they're fucking Robespierre.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:21 PM (9UlRk)

14 Is that Ruth Bader Ginsberg on the last Twitter screed? And, my cat can paint better than her portraitist.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:21 PM (pZ64F)

15 "Newsguard" LOL. The name "Pravda" was already taken.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2023 02:21 PM (RSbhh)

16 The seriousness of what these legacy media organizations did cannot be understated. As MRC noted, polling indicates that suppression of the laptop story played a deciding role in the 2020 election.
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I still call BS on this. The polls show this, but I don't think it's true. I think it's much more a reflection of self-delusion. It's a convenient excuse. "I voted for Biden but I wouldn't have if only I knew about Hunter's problems" is a very easy and psychologically safe way of expressing buyer's remorse. "I made a bad choice because of a lie" is much easier than "I made a bad choice because I fucked up" and you're much more likely to get that response.

I think that this is the internalized version of "if only Comrade Stalin knew" rather than a genuine artifact. No way to prove it, of course. Just a gut check.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:22 PM (zxP/x)

17 Snow status: augered. Taking a lunch break.

Imprison the rat bastards? No. Try them for sedition, convict them, and hang them. By.The.Neck.Until.Dead. And then for days and weeks to follow, pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:23 PM (bPuW2)

18 "This cannot go on." yet it will.. And probably accelerate

Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2023 02:23 PM (n2vyf)

19 And if they do: We headhunt them back.
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Something tells me this may not be just metaphorical headhunting if this behavior continues...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (7fElN)

20 16 I think that this is the internalized version of "if only Comrade Stalin knew" rather than a genuine artifact. No way to prove it, of course. Just a gut check.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:22 PM (zxP/x)

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How many ballots fed through the Fulton counting machines multiple times were polled?

It's important to include them in analysis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

21 First, the FCC revokes Starlink's $885 million award by making up an entirely new standard of review that no entity could ever pass and then applying that novel standard to only one entity: Starlink.
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"No entity could ever pass", you say? Let's keep that standard, and apply it to very "grant" the FCC proposes to make!

No free money to favored political buddies of the administration is a policy (and standard) I would really get behind.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (DtGk7)

22 Conspiracy in restraint of fair competition, tortious interference, 1983 actions, need shit ton of litigation. The process is the punishment.

Posted by: It's not like voting does shit at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (R3DgF)

23 First, the FCC revokes Starlink's $885 million award by making up an entirely new standard of review that no entity could ever pass and then applying that novel standard to only one entity: Starlink.

The decision does not even grapple with the evidence--it simply ignores it.

Second, rural America ends up paying the highest price for this decision.

Over 642,000 rural homes & businesses would have gained high-speed Internet access for the first time ever under the deal.

But the FCC just vaporized that commitment & replaced it with . . . nothing.
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Starlink is valuable - but only if it's on the team.
Twitter/X is valuable - but only if it's on the team.

Whatever. If you're not on the team, you're not valuable - you're a risk. Risks are contained.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (zxP/x)

24 Shouldn't black people get black ballots?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:25 PM (pZ64F)

25 Buzzards gotta eat, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:25 PM (R4t5M)

26 This.

Cannot.

Go on.

I'm afraid it can and will, unless and until enough of the population is ready to sharpen up the National Razor.

Posted by: Metaphorically of course at December 15, 2023 02:25 PM (wtpA4)

27 These gutless apparatchiks confuse fervor for ruthlessness. They think they're revolutionaries, but they're just dandies. They're LARPing at revolt, and they'll be the first to fall when the mob they're actually inciting goes critical.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (9UlRk)

28 We need to start seriously talking about imprisoning these motherfuckers. We need the public to get ready for it. We need them to understand the need for it, and the justifications for it.
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I am not even committed to that. I'd like to see it, but I would accept other solutions. The most achievable is probably just eliminating their entire agencies. Repeal the agency and nullify their codes. There is little justice in that - evildoers go free - but it eliminates their ability to do evil.

It's a compromise I can live with.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (zxP/x)

29 Whatever. If you're not on the team, you're not valuable - you're a risk. Risks are contained.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (zxP/x)
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...or eliminated.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (7fElN)

30 mmmm, Coffee with a slug of rum added sure is tasty. And warms ya right up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (bPuW2)

31 I still call BS on this. The polls show this, but I don't think it's true. I think it's much more a reflection of self-delusion. It's a convenient excuse. "I voted for Biden but I wouldn't have if only I knew about Hunter's problems" is a very easy and psychologically safe way of expressing buyer's remorse. "I made a bad choice because of a lie" is much easier than "I made a bad choice because I fucked up" and you're much more likely to get that response.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:22 PM (zxP/x)

I agree. At some point, the only way to fail to see the score is to choose to fail.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (GYIa4)

32 But the FCC just vaporized that commitment & replaced it with . . . nothing.

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"That's not fair, h8r -- there's a plan to provide free tin cans and string to all those rural customers!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (S8LYt)

33 I'm not worried. As soon as Mike Johnson combs Paul Ryan's man seed from his hair, he'll set up a committee to investigate these high crimes.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:26 PM (eYF7X)

34 30 mmmm, Coffee with a slug of rum added sure is tasty. And warms ya right up.
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Why ruin perfectly good rum?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (pZ64F)

35 please fund these strictly factual sites!

..

On it, boss!

Posted by: Speaker Johnson at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (ccC3M)

36 This.

Cannot.

Go on.
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It can and it will, for a while. So long as people remain clothed, entertained and fed it will go on. We're a long way from revolutionary conditions, and only revolutionary conditions will result in change. It's baked it, it is what it is, they are who are they are, they do as they please and it continues until it just simply cannot anymore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (zxP/x)

37 I honestly didn't know how many dumb people there were in the world until the advent of social media. I kinda suspected it was relatively high, but hoo-boy, was I wrong. It's a lot more.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (kLbP8)

38 I can't bring myself to watch mainstream media anymore - not even ostensibly amusing supercut vids like above... can't stand politicians and their media cronies. These people rule my world. I can't do anything about it. I kinda just have to take their ruling class fat bastard bullshit.

But I don't have to watch them lie to my face about their evil fag plans that they'll carry out without regard to the opinion of the people they're lying to. How does that add value to my life?

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (0FoWg)

39 or rum with a slug of coffee.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (R4t5M)

40 When asked "How?", President Biden responded "There's a lot of ways."

Pedestrians, already dying at record levels, now face Elon Musk's Cybertruck
@NBCNews: Tesla’s new Cybertruck, a 6,800-pound electric car, would be lethal to pedestrians and occupants of lighter vehicles in the case of an accident, experts say.

Michael Brooks, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, said the Cybertruck’s extreme acceleration capabilities, combined with its weight, means that drivers will have less time to react to pedestrians, and collisions with them will be deadlier.

“Just like Elon says — If you have an argument with another car, you will win — so long as ‘winning’ means inflicting life-threatening damage to other humans on the road,”

Elon seems to be determined to use his time on the earth to rack up a body count.

Gargantuan oversized killer SUVs, trucks, and other fake self-esteem-extenders for the highly narcissistic and sociopathic, who have no demonstrable use for them, are bad enough--but now we have to have these. Feds need to step in.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (JCZqz)

41 37 I honestly didn't know how many dumb people there were in the world until the advent of social media. I kinda suspected it was relatively high, but hoo-boy, was I wrong. It's a lot more.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (kLbP

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Almost half.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

42 TASS, PRAVDA, Newsguard... whatever.

Posted by: NKVD at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (NBVIP)

43 Second, rural America ends up paying the highest price for this decision.

Over 642,000 rural homes & businesses would have gained high-speed Internet access for the first time ever under the deal.

Well, it ain't 642,000 Biden voters now, is it? They would probably just use their internets to spread illegal memes and misinformation.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (NYzgN)

44 Social media is the only place you can be an expert on something you know nothing about.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (kLbP8)

45 40 Gargantuan oversized killer SUVs, trucks, and other fake self-esteem-extenders for the highly narcissistic and sociopathic, who have no demonstrable use for them, are bad enough--but now we have to have these. Feds need to step in.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (JCZqz)

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The only fix is to nationalize Tesla.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

46 How many ballots fed through the Fulton counting machines multiple times were polled?

It's important to include them in analysis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Not for this question. This question is simple, and involves only humans: As a Biden voter in 2020, had you known about the legitimacy of the Hunter Biden "Laptop from Hell" and its implications regarding Joe Biden, would you have still voted for him?

No need to bring fraud into it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (zxP/x)

47 All pedestrians are Communists. Fact, Jack.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (bPuW2)

48 I have a Toyota Tacoma Self-Esteem Extender.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:29 PM (R4t5M)

49 "Some blue land crabs were reportedly found charred after a SpaceX launch."

AKA a "crab bake".

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2023 02:29 PM (kLbP8)

50 Some blue land crabs were reportedly found charred after a SpaceX launch.

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Out: Clam bakes.
In: Crab bakes.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 02:29 PM (S8LYt)

51 @shellenberger

Cybersecurity and disinformation experts deny they engaged in censorship, but they did. And now, we have uncovered evidence that the same people who created the Censorship Industrial Complex were behind the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. Blockbuster new report by
@galexybrane

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (ZLI7S)

52 It can and it will, for a while. So long as people remain clothed, entertained and fed it will go on. We're a long way from revolutionary conditions, and only revolutionary conditions will result in change. It's baked it, it is what it is, they are who are they are, they do as they please and it continues until it just simply cannot anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (zxP/x)

We've spent 160+ years periodically killing off as many of the people most likely to revolt as possible.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (GYIa4)

53 I swear, sometimes it seems like half the population is below average!

Posted by: But there will be no math at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (NBVIP)

54 If Trump wins he'll make us eat our dogs and cats!!!////

Posted by: lin-duh at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (YSTo5)

55 When you think of how dumb the average person is, you're probably actually thinking of the person two standard decisions up from that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (9UlRk)

56 46 Not for this question. This question is simple, and involves only humans: As a Biden voter in 2020, had you known about the legitimacy of the Hunter Biden "Laptop from Hell" and its implications regarding Joe Biden, would you have still voted for him?

No need to bring fraud into it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (zxP/x)

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I know...I'm just being an annoying broken record. Sorry.

It's also interesting that "the president's son is a scumbag and I had no idea" is the preferred line of regret for some people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

57 I have a Toyota Tacoma Self-Esteem Extender.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:29 PM (R4t5M)

Dropped some parts off to guy yesterday, and he has a brand new one sitting in his driveway. Looks like a Suburban with an extended frame, and pickup box on the back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (bPuW2)

58 *decisions

*Decisions
....

*DEVIATIONS

. Fuck you, phone.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (9UlRk)

59 If the land crabs were chopped up by a windmill or scorched by a solar panel that would be fine.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (NYzgN)

60 The first amendment guarantees liberals the right to use government-coerced taxpayer monies to punish speech they don't want anyone to hear. That's the gist of it, right?
______

Just jawboning, right?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (brAQZ)

61 "Which tells advertisers not to advertise on those sites.

Come on, do advertisers really need to be told who to advertise with? The advertisers are mostly leftwing and know very well who are their fellow idiot travelers, and who are not.

Newsguard seems more to me like a giant money-sucking scam and laundering operation.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

62 I have a Toyota Tacoma Self-Esteem Extender.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:29 PM (R4t5M)

I have a Ford Explorer platinum trim extender. Too bad I'm not a leftist or I could be smug too.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (4iIQh)

63 >>>mmmm, Coffee with a slug of rum added sure is tasty. And warms ya right up.

I've found that butter pecan cream moonshine in the coffee is a personal cure-all.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (CwhoI)

64
1. I have brought it up before that the gov. is paying $25k to $35k per hookup for rural broadband. This is an enormous waste.

2. I have heard a dissent that the Starlink bid got bumped because the program is set up that if a higher speed alternative comes up, even at a much higher cost, the contract automatically goes to them. Starlink bid at lower speed and then got bumped by 1G fiber.
Not sure if that is accurate, but even if it is, the system is nuts.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (KLXLF)

65 or rum with a slug of coffee.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (R4t5M)
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Either one has to be better than rum/coffee with a slug of slugs...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (7fElN)

66 Social media is the only place you can be an expert on something you know nothing about.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (kLbP

That statement is just silly.

There's broadcast media, print media, government agencies, university faculty... the world abounds with places you can be an expert on something you know nothing about.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (GYIa4)

67 None of my decisions are standard decisions.

Posted by: The decider at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (NBVIP)

68 Look, Newsguard's job is to guard against news getting out. They are doing that.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (brAQZ)

69 I've found that butter pecan cream moonshine in the coffee is a personal cure-all.
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I have to admit, I never knew such a thing existed.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (pZ64F)

70 Something something about sending out a multitude of officers ....

That is terrorist talk 247 years later .....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (TzW+Y)

71 Over 642,000 rural homes & businesses would have gained high-speed Internet access for the first time ever under the deal.

But the FCC just vaporized that commitment & replaced it with . . . nothing.
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This is nothing to the junta. Worth it to strike at an enemy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (RIvkX)

72 Every time "Bad Thing" is posted about what this administration is up to, I think about how much more sense today, each day, that we simply split up.

Then my second thought is, how is the Republican Party any better?

There probably won't be, can't be a political solution to any of this.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

73 How many people thought Rachel Jeantel had normal intelligence during the Zimmerman trial?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (eYF7X)

74 53 I swear, sometimes it seems like half the population is below average!
Posted by: But there will be no math at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (NBVIP)

Well ... below the median, anyway.

Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (Sf2cq)

75 We've spent 160+ years periodically killing off as many of the people most likely to revolt as possible.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (GYIa4)
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That's typical, and one of the reason that the closing of frontiers has been a problem. It's not a coincidence and it shouldn't be surprising that various established powers' penal colonies ultimately turned out well. No more room for them, which is a serious problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (zxP/x)

76 Not sure if that is accurate, but even if it is, the system is nuts.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (KLXLF)

Every time it looks like they must be stupid to be doing what they're doing, it's basically guaranteed that someone somewhere is very, very happy with that arrangement.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:33 PM (9UlRk)

77 >>That statement is just silly.

>>There's broadcast media, print media, government agencies, university faculty... the world abounds with places you can be an expert on something you know nothing about.

And these things called blogs.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

78 *Newsguard seems more to me like a giant money-sucking scam and laundering operation.*

National Panhandler Radio has entered the chat.

Posted by: Nina Totenbag at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (NBVIP)

79 Cybertrucks are silly. But ya got love those wacky NPCs.

Their Apple brand mind control devices tell them "You liked Musk before, but not anymore. Musk bad. Musk very, very bad. You hate the bad Muskman now. His cars are too heavy and his space Internet is Russian."

And they snap to attention, and with one voice, they shriek "Muskman is bad! Take Muskman's things! Kill Muskman!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (0FoWg)

80 We haven't even started with the FINAL frontier!

It had some good moments, but ultimately more of an extension of Shatner's ego than a Star Trek film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

81 >>But Huffington Post? Highly trustworthy! Fortune 500 corporations -- please fund these strictly factual sites!

Reliable sources have informed me that if Trump is reelected, he will SHOT the first lady.

Isn't it worth any price to prevent such a murder?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (KLXLF)

82 The only fix is to nationalize Tesla.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

And X, and Starlink, and SpaceX, and...

Comrades, we have before us the opportunity to finally have TRUE COMMUNISM. Sure, it'll take a few decades to completely phase in, during which I, and my children, will oversee the process and live like aristocrats but you'll shiver and starve knowing that it's all for equity.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (GYIa4)

83 these people are manufacturing a justification for wide-scale state violence against their political opponents

What shouldn't go on, will eventually be forced to stop. Either through legal means, or other less friendly means. Not saying I want sporty alternatives to happen, but that alternative is becoming much closer to spontaneously cropping up day, by day.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (3CCua)

84 1. I have brought it up before that the gov. is paying $25k to $35k per hookup for rural broadband. This is an enormous waste.

2. I have heard a dissent that the Starlink bid got bumped because the program is set up that if a higher speed alternative comes up, even at a much higher cost, the contract automatically goes to them. Starlink bid at lower speed and then got bumped by 1G fiber.
Not sure if that is accurate, but even if it is, the system is nuts.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (KLXLF)

Both my place here in Alberta, and my one in Arizona are on "district wireless". You have a small rooftop dish pointed at a local tower. Works fine. The early versions were a bit glitchy, but basically rock-solid now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (bPuW2)

85 77 And these things called blogs.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

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I know a place where you can get a good opinion on some movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

86 Newsguard seems more to me like a giant money-sucking scam and laundering operation.
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Which operationally slanders competitors and dries up their revenues. It's quite efficient.

Posted by: Soros at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (R3DgF)

87 The genius of the Two Minutes Hate was that it was limited to two minutes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (9UlRk)

88 'Media Research Center (MRC) Free Speech America'
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Here's The Rule:

All Progressive organizations adopt names that directly (and puposely) condradict their actual purpose.

My favorite- 'People For The American Way'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (XeU6L)

89 I don't find ads persuasive no matter where they are. In fact, I think the advertising models of today are relics of a bygone era. Who really buys something from a major company based on an ad? I bet practically nobody. It's more a way for major corporations to launder their financial support for causes they support. News guard is just a public pretext for that process.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (kLbP8)

90 74 53 I swear, sometimes it seems like half the population is below average!
Posted by: But there will be no math at December 15, 2023 02:30 PM (NBVIP)

Well ... below the median, anyway.
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Did you know the median interest rate charged on Credit Cards is 22.5%? Much better metric to estimate America's IQ.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (pZ64F)

91 Musk should bundle the Starlink subsidies into Ukraine getting their internet. I bet they change their tune real quick.

In this day and age, you really have to have balls of steel to be willing to buck the system on anything remotely conservative and be high profile. They don't even try to hide it anymore, they get a kick out of bragging about punishing their enemies.

I read where Tesla is also fighting stupid EPA lawsuits like the fumes from their paint booths.

Posted by: Blago at December 15, 2023 02:36 PM (wMRY8)

92 36 This.

Cannot.

Go on.
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It can and it will, for a while. So long as people remain clothed, entertained and fed it will go on. We're a long way from revolutionary conditions, and only revolutionary conditions will result in change. It's baked it, it is what it is, they are who are they are, they do as they please and it continues until it just simply cannot anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (zxP/x)
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It will go on for decades more at least. And I expect it to get WORSE before it gets better. That's in part because I think radical Islam will continue to infiltrate and poison the country. There is no resisting these lunatics short of violent confrontation to the death. Which means there is no resisting them. No sane person or institution can out-death a death cult. We are doomed and fucked and fucked and doomed.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 15, 2023 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

93 I just happened to run across an old quote in my quote file yesterday.

“Of course the government and the newspapers lie. But in a democracy they’re not the same lies!”—GURPS Illuminati

Fact Check: True.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 15, 2023 02:36 PM (EXyHK)

94 The most insidious power the media has is the power to ignore.

Posted by: Stuff Chris Plante sez at December 15, 2023 02:36 PM (NBVIP)

95 re #81,

Someone linked the Tom Elliot supercut video.
How many of those news sites are rated "reliable"?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:36 PM (KLXLF)

96 TJM, how was your Danny Boyle movie?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (pZ64F)

97 Propaganda Ministry protection of their own

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (pvKxo)

98 Dropped some parts off to guy yesterday, and he has a brand new one sitting in his driveway. Looks like a Suburban with an extended frame, and pickup box on the back.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (bPuW2)

A Taco? That looks like a Suburban??

You sure it's a Taco? The 2024s are about to hit the market, with tons of '23s still sitting on dealer lots.

Every Taco will have a 4 cyl engine. Every. One. It'll be turbo, sure, but still...

They are releasing a manual tranny version. Which I'd consider. But probably won't buy.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (dGCAG)

99 >>Cybertrucks are silly.

I think the Rivian looks fabulous - Kevin McCarthy-Luntz

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (eYF7X)

100 You sure it's a Taco? The 2024s are about to hit the market, with tons of '23s still sitting on dealer lots.

Every Taco will have a 4 cyl engine. Every. One. It'll be turbo, sure, but still...

They are releasing a manual tranny version. Which I'd consider. But probably won't buy.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (dGCAG)

My bad. Probably a Tundra. It's big.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:38 PM (bPuW2)

101 It's also interesting that "the president's son is a scumbag and I had no idea" is the preferred line of regret for some people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
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It isn't. Most of them probably never even thought about it..

But when presented with that nice, pat question, they will leap onto it. They regret the choice and regret living in Brandon's hellscape, but have no means to reconcile their part in it. Then some pollster asks this question. Note that they did not ask, "do you regret your vote for Biden" or "in retrospect, do you wish you had voted for Trump?"

The ask a question that is very, very likely to receive a "yes" answer from those suffering from voter's remorse. It hands them an excuse on a silver platter, provides psychological cover for them when assessing their own bad decision that was making them feel bad, and allows them to express it in a narrow framework that still permits them to belong to the group.

It's almost the perfect question to accumulate "yes" answers from those with regrets. It's so good that most of the respondents who likely never though about it probably believe it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:38 PM (zxP/x)

102 >>Cybertrucks are silly.

I think the Rivian looks fabulous - Kevin McCarthy-Luntz
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (eYF7X)

"It looks like someone microwaved a dildo."

"I know, ain't it great?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:39 PM (9UlRk)

103
51 ~~former intelligence officials~~ treasonous fucks, all likely still on Deep State payrolls, in the cheapest soft-coup ever owing to the ~~assistance of~~ collusion with the fifth column MDM-MSM and Big Tech AKA ~~Silicon~~ Surveillance Valley.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 02:39 PM (Efvay)

104 Toyota is missing the boat. They should rebrand the Tundra as the "Thunderpig". Who would not want to drive a Thunderpig?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:39 PM (bPuW2)

105 Both my place here in Alberta, and my one in Arizona are on "district wireless". You have a small rooftop dish pointed at a local tower. Works fine. The early versions were a bit glitchy, but basically rock-solid now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I am on 5G broadband. Which is essentially what you are describing, but not a dish, a broadband router. Soon the whole world will be on 5G or satellite and fiber will be torn out for residential broadband.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (KLXLF)

106 Is there any way we can claw back our votes on the last budget and add more funding for NewsGuard?

Posted by: GOPe at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (aXxgO)

107 The Cybertruck looks like a rejected design for the Star Wars landspeeder.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (bPuW2)

108 Toyota is missing the boat. They should rebrand the Tundra as the "Thunderpig". Who would not want to drive a Thunderpig?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

It's beyond time for the Canyonero.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (MGB5H)

109 I have always viewed the rural broadband thing as a government money laundering operation for politically connected allies.

Like awarding millions to the mayor's brother's company to replace lead pipes when the company has never replaced a single inch of underground pipes.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (NYzgN)

110 My Duramax L5P 3500 laughs at 4 cyl trucks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (eYF7X)

111 Clarification.
They are not going after Musk for the Starlink dispute, but because he went against the Ukraine narrative. Wrong think.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (KLXLF)

112 The economy is great and people are doing well under president Bide. You are just to dumb to realize it !!!!!

DuuuuuuuuuH !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (1t11C)

113 It's clear the Bidens are really pissed off towards Elon Musk, with even Hunter calling him out by name.

They really had a nice Big tech monopoly on protection until Musk bought Twitter. Did a great job protecting their crime syndicate.

I can't even imagine the political landscape had Twitter not been acquired.

Posted by: Blago at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (wMRY8)

114 I have a Toyota Tacoma Self-Esteem Extender.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Pfft.

Posted by: Land Rover-driving AWFL at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (XeU6L)

115 The dividing line between the American Deep State and the DNC operate is .....negligible.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (GMdj3)

116 96 TJM, how was your Danny Boyle movie?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:37 PM (pZ64F)

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Good!

I had distinct familiarity vibes as I watched it, and at some point, I said to myself, "This feels like About Time." Lo and behold, Richard Curtis wrote both (he directed About Time and cowrote Yesterday). I think it should be easy to get Dolley to watch it.

It might have helped if I were anything like a Beatlemaniac since there's a moment where the character has to go off and write a song in 10 minutes in a competition with Ed Shereen. I wasn't sure if what he had come back with was his own or cribbed from the Beatles since I didn't know the song (it was one of theirs), but me not caring about the Beatles didn't negatively affect my experience overall.

Also, no renditions of Imagine. At all. Big plus.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

117 101 It's almost the perfect question to accumulate "yes" answers from those with regrets. It's so good that most of the respondents who likely never though about it probably believe it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:38 PM (zxP/x)

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I swore the poll was from sometime in 2021, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

118 111 Clarification.
They are not going after Musk for the Starlink dispute, but because he went against the Ukraine narrative. Wrong think.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (KLXLF)

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His great sin was taking Twitter away from them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

119 Good!

I had distinct familiarity vibes as I watched it, and at some point, I said to myself, "This feels like About Time." Lo and behold, Richard Curtis wrote both (he directed About Time and cowrote Yesterday). I think it should be easy to get Dolley to watch it.

It might have helped if I were anything like a Beatlemaniac since there's a moment where the character has to go off and write a song in 10 minutes in a competition with Ed Shereen. I wasn't sure if what he had come back with was his own or cribbed from the Beatles since I didn't know the song (it was one of theirs), but me not caring about the Beatles didn't negatively affect my experience overall.

Also, no renditions of Imagine. At all. Big plus.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I saw that when it came out in theaters. It was an enjoyable flick.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 15, 2023 02:43 PM (MGB5H)

120 "Gargantuan oversized killer SUVs, trucks, and other fake self-esteem-extenders for the highly narcissistic and sociopathic, who have no demonstrable use for them, are bad enough"

You can f8ck right off, and don't come whining to me when you need a couch moved without it getting rained on.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 15, 2023 02:43 PM (ou9hh)

121 119 I saw that when it came out in theaters. It was an enjoyable flick.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 15, 2023 02:43 PM (MGB5H)

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I bought it blind and got it yesterday (ha!).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

122 Starlink is valuable - but only if it's on the team.
Twitter/X is valuable - but only if it's on the team.

Whatever. If you're not on the team, you're not valuable - you're a risk. Risks are contained.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:24 PM (zxP/x)

I think Musk made a mistake setting up his space business in the US. He should have bought French Guyana (or some place similar) to launch his rockets and satellites.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (BdMk6)

123 Some states start early voting in...

9 months.

Posted by: You won't believe this at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (ksSfD)

124 The Washington Post, USA Today, and Politico -- all outlets that discredited the story -- were given "flawless 100/100 scores."

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HAHAHAH!

are you gonna believe the Trustworthy government sponsored news sites, or your lying eyes ??

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (V13WU)

125 Clarification.
They are not going after Musk for the Starlink dispute, but because he went against the Ukraine narrative. Wrong think.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:41 PM (KLXLF)
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In part.

I think the bigger part is X. So long as he remains recalcitrant regarding the censorship regime, not part of his life and none of his enterprises are off-limits. If he surrenders X, most or all of this - from Ukraine to the blue crabs - goes away.

So far, he has not surrendered - which is why they're ramping up everything against him and instructing their corporate partners to join in the fray. If they can't have X, they want it destroyed. If he won't give it to them, they want him destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (zxP/x)

126 I have always viewed the rural broadband thing as a government money laundering operation for politically connected allies.

Like awarding millions to the mayor's brother's company to replace lead pipes when the company has never replaced a single inch of underground pipes.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

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Yea, I mean how upset can I get about "not" subsidizing the internet for people in 2023?

It's just obvious though its targeted toward Musk, but let the free market figure this out. I think the "plan" was you got a free StarLink modem? So now we're buying them new ones forever when they break?

Just another version of ObamaPhones.

Posted by: Blago at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (wMRY8)

127 DuuuuuuuuuH !!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline
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Don't you normally let the dog lick your sore now?

Posted by: Don't let us take you away from your "me" time at December 15, 2023 02:45 PM (R3DgF)

128 I swore the poll was from sometime in 2021, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:42 PM (GBKbO)
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"Biden Remorse" set in almost immediately.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:45 PM (zxP/x)

129 Toyota is missing the boat. They should rebrand the Tundra as the "Thunderpig". Who would not want to drive a Thunderpig?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:39 PM (bPuW2)

Yeah, I definitely don't need a Tundra, but it is entirely possible I DO need a Thunderpig.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2023 02:45 PM (dGCAG)

130 Misinformation . . . I was just looking back over posts I made on Buickforums dot com in the spring of 2020, questioning the "official" line about the Coof and laying out actual facts and stats.

The people there had bought the propaganda hook, line, sinker, lock, stock, and two smoking barrels. They as good as said I was stupid and endangering others for not wearing the face diaper. All of them, older people for the most part who should have learned to be more skeptical and cynical, accepted The Party Line.

I left and haven't gone back.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 15, 2023 02:45 PM (J2vNu)

131 This.

Cannot.

Go on.
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It can and it will, for a while. So long as people remain clothed, entertained and fed it will go on. We're a long way from revolutionary conditions, and only revolutionary conditions will result in change. It's baked it, it is what it is, they are who are they are, they do as they please and it continues until it just simply cannot anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:27 PM (zxP/x)

The Middle and Working Classes makes lousy revolutionaries because they are inherently stable and the calm centered backbone of the nation. They obey laws. They work hard. And basically, just want to be left alone. They make few demands on gov't, except for stability and calm cultural and economic continuity.

Buuuuut, with a 24/7 propaganda machine spewing poison into the ears of the young and the older stupid.
That's all gone.

Our Betters have created eternal crises, constant panic, constant FOMO, weaponized race/ethnic hatred.

Even that's not enough to knock the Middle and Working classes off their law-abiding balance.

It's gonna take the fruition of Our Betters plans with no energy, no food, no jobs, dead economy.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (QzZeQ)

132 Some states start early voting in...

9 months.

Posted by: You won't believe this at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (ksSfD)

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"Good news, comrades -- the millions of votes from Beijing have already been tabulated!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (ZAe34)

133 I honestly didn't know how many dumb people there were in the world until the advent of social media. I kinda suspected it was relatively high, but hoo-boy, was I wrong. It's a lot more.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Almost half.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It's a Poisson Distribution. Well more than half are just room temperature pig ignorant jackasses. The Horde here is probably deep within the 1% of the higher intelligence population at the extreme end of that curve. Honestly, how many people as clearly intelligent as we have here, do you truly run into in an average day among the regular bunch of sheep we have in this country?

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (3CCua)

134 >>Cybertrucks are silly.

I like it.

Posted by: Dodge Division Design Dept. at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (KLXLF)

135 128 I swore the poll was from sometime in 2021, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:42 PM (GBKbO)
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"Biden Remorse" set in almost immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:45 PM (zxP/x)

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*nods sagaciously*

Because covid didn't immediately vanish and the covid forever faction wouldn't let go of their hold of the news media.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

136 I think Musk made a mistake setting up his space business in the US. He should have bought French Guyana (or some place similar) to launch his rockets and satellites.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 15, 2023 02:44 PM (BdMk6)
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Harder than it sounds. Space is *hard.* It requires staggering amount of expertise and engineering capability, as well as an enormous industrial system. It would be extremely difficult to have a space program - even a private one - outside of the first world. It might not be impossible, but it would require building that. All of it. All at once.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:47 PM (zxP/x)

137 It's gonna take the fruition of Our Betters plans with no energy, no food, no jobs, dead economy.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (QzZeQ)
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Right. I think we're saying the same thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:47 PM (zxP/x)

138 If they can go after Musk (and Trump) none of us are safe.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 15, 2023 02:47 PM (MeG8a)

139 They are releasing a manual tranny version. Which I'd consider. But probably won't buy.
Posted by: BurtTC

Now you're talking my language! Where does one purchase trannies named Manuel? Asking for a friend....

(And if that dreamy Paolo is on the market, let me know girlfriend!)

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at December 15, 2023 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

140 Disinformation Expert Ace:
This.

Cannot.

Go on.

Agreed. But when it does go on - and it assuredly will - then what? What, exactly, is the trigger? Who is going to pull it?

And that is what explains why this all will continue until it's a unidirectional Police State. I simply don't have faith that the Founding Father's DNA persists in sufficient concentration to avoid American collapse. Obama's Fundamental Transformation is in it's beginning of the end (of classical America) phase.

We have seen far too much abuse of all of our systems for far too long. The inertia is not in the favor of Liberty/Freedom.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 15, 2023 02:49 PM (aXxgO)

141 85 77 And these things called blogs.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

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I know a place where you can get a good opinion on some movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

***

And Hockey Talk come playoffs...

Posted by: Peter Puck at December 15, 2023 02:49 PM (TTAGa)

142 Also, no renditions of Imagine. At all. Big plus.
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Which Boyle movie did you watch?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:49 PM (WBro8)

143 It would be extremely difficult to have a space program - even a private one - outside of the first world. It might not be impossible, but it would require building that. All of it. All at once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:47 PM (zxP/x)

And while it's not impossible to have the CIA sabotage everything you do on U.S. soil, it's really that much easier when you're off the mainland.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2023 02:50 PM (dGCAG)

144 142 Also, no renditions of Imagine. At all. Big plus.
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Which Boyle movie did you watch?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:49 PM (WBro

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Yesterday, I watched Yesterday.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

145 >> Clarification.
They are not going after Musk for the Starlink dispute, but because he went against the Ukraine narrative. Wrong think.

They are going after Musk because he took away their Twitter toy and now it is harder for them to censor us and for them to create narratives. The damage he did to them by taking Twitter is incalculable and they have been punishing him ever since.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

146 I think the bigger part is X.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I think you are right. I was thinking the vitriol coming from the likes of reddit commentors. They all hate him now, and that is mostly about Ukraine.

I think gov. is going after him for X, as well as his general conservative leanings and speech, but a lot of the ground troops are worked up over him as a "russian agent" over Ukraine.

Posted by: Dodge Division Design Dept. at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (KLXLF)

147 This leggy and underdressed brunette thinks outfits like "NewsGuard" have some utility in that inverting their findings can act as a reasonable first-pass filter:
https://is.gd/yl7SHC

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (zxP/x)

148 "Good news, comrades -- the millions of votes from Beijing have already been tabulated!"
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 02:46 PM (ZAe34)

Something tells me it's easier to fabricate the ballots from the start, than it is to change the name from Biden to Newsome after the fact.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2023 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

149 I think Musk made a mistake setting up his space business in the US. He should have bought French Guyana (or some place similar) to launch his rockets and satellites.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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He should do the launches in places like Mexico, they'd be happy to have it and not hassle him. Have all the engineering in the US.

Posted by: Blago at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (wMRY8)

150 So.

Ethics? Not really objective anymore, huh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (di6C2)

151 Starlink is valuable - but only if it's on the team.
Twitter/X is valuable - but only if it's on the team.

Whatever. If you're not on the team, you're not valuable - you're a risk. Risks are contained.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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How much did the Dems squander on Broadband Over Powerline subsidies/grants? $65 Billion.

Posted by: Land Rover-driving AWFL at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (XeU6L)

152 Maersk has announced that their ships will no longer travel in the Red Sea due to Houthi attacks. Incredible that a group without a navy can effectively shut down a sea lane.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (CwhoI)

153 Oops /AWFL

Posted by: Land Rover-driving AWFL at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (XeU6L)

154
Boyle's made several good movies, some lousy movies.

The one of his I like best is 'Sunshine".

I can rewatch that once a year.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (QzZeQ)

155 This leggy and underdressed brunette thinks outfits like "NewsGuard" have some utility in that inverting their findings can act as a reasonable first-pass filter:
https://is.gd/yl7SHC
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (zxP/x)
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I will take a leaf from Muad'dib's book and tell her of the waters of my homeworld.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 15, 2023 02:54 PM (ScR16)

156
Which tells advertisers not to advertise on those sites.

These companies are already inclined to nuke their X/Twatter advertising, this FCC ruling just gives them an excuse that they can cite to the shareholders.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2023 02:54 PM (n+4am)

157 76 Not sure if that is accurate, but even if it is, the system is nuts.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 02:32 PM (KLXLF)

I would posit that the system isn't so much nuts as it is rigged.

Posted by: We're all being scammed all day every day at December 15, 2023 02:54 PM (wtpA4)

158 Oops /AWFL
Posted by: Land Rover-driving AWFL
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I know that I can do this...
/AWFL

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2023 02:54 PM (XeU6L)

159 147 This leggy and underdressed brunette thinks outfits like "NewsGuard" have some utility in that inverting their findings can act as a reasonable first-pass filter:
https://is.gd/yl7SHC
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (zxP/x)
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Looks like someone's birthday was going to be special.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI expert at December 15, 2023 02:55 PM (pIx7m)

160 Harder than it sounds. Space is *hard.* It requires staggering amount of expertise and engineering capability, as well as an enormous industrial system. It would be extremely difficult to have a space program - even a private one - outside of the first world. It might not be impossible, but it would require building that. All of it. All at once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:47 PM (zxP/x)

If there's anyone that could overcome those obstacles, it would be Musk. He's already doing what people thought was impossible 10-15 years ago.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 15, 2023 02:55 PM (BdMk6)

161 Maersk has announced that their ships will no longer travel in the Red Sea due to Houthi attacks. Incredible that a group without a navy can effectively shut down a sea lane.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (CwhoI)
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When the choke point is the Bab el Mandeb, all you need is range from land.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 15, 2023 02:55 PM (ScR16)

162 From each according to his ability.

To each according to his self-esteem.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 02:55 PM (9UlRk)

163 The lower the rating, the more I trust the news source. It's more a rating of publishing stories the powers that be want published.

Posted by: InZona at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (ayzdi)

164 144 142 Also, no renditions of Imagine. At all. Big plus.
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Which Boyle movie did you watch?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:49 PM (WBro

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Yesterday, I watched Yesterday.
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Umm, okay. Did the Beatles actually exist?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (AdHga)

165 >>> making up an entirely new standard of review that no entity could ever pass and then applying that novel standard to only one entity: Starlink.

Q: How is this not a Bill of Attainder?
A: The Government just made it all up, not a real law, so does not have to comply.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (cOq4q)

166 How much did the Dems squander on Broadband Over Powerline subsidies/grants? $65 Billion.
Posted by: Land Rover-driving AWFL at December 15, 2023 02:53 PM (XeU6L)

That's different. A bunch of that money went to the families of the politicians/bureaucrats involved... so it's okay. The little people want to know that their leaders can live a relaxed and carefree life.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (GYIa4)

167 Damien Hernandez, Gianni Robinson, Dontral Beaver, and Treavion Randolph face second-degree murder charges in the death of 17-year-old Jonathan Lewis who prosecutors said was attacked during a fight on Nov. 1, over some stolen items by a group of teens who deliberately stomped on Lewis’s head. The Rancho High School student died from blunt force trauma to his head and body, the coroner said.

They're pleading self defense.

Newsguard approves.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (eYF7X)

168 147 This leggy and underdressed brunette
_____

I've been trained to check the nick before clicking the link. Thanks to the Admiral. Hey, I've got a new saying -

"Check the Nick before you Click!"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (fs1hN)

169 159 147 This leggy and underdressed brunette thinks outfits like "NewsGuard" have some utility in that inverting their findings can act as a reasonable first-pass filter:
https://is.gd/yl7SHC
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 15, 2023 02:51 PM (zxP/x)

She needs to make herself a sammich.

Posted by: Leggy but scrawny at December 15, 2023 02:57 PM (wtpA4)

170 107 The Cybertruck looks like a rejected design for the Star Wars landspeeder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (bPuW2)

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I support the effort, but that design is gawdawful. I thought the prototype design was silly and couldn't possibly resemble the final product -- I was sadly mistaken.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI expert at December 15, 2023 02:57 PM (pIx7m)

171 Months ago I linked a report about how there are something like two dozen agencies subsidizing broadband. Broadband for Indians, broadband for black farmers, broadband for rural gay, ....

And that the costs were astronomical (pun intended.)

Instead of 5G or starlink, they are paying $25K or more per hookup to string fiber.

Posted by: Dodge Division Design Dept. at December 15, 2023 02:57 PM (KLXLF)

172 >>147 This leggy and underdressed brunette thinks outfits like "NewsGuard" have some utility in that inverting their findings can act as a reasonable first-pass filter:
https://is.gd/yl7SHC
Posted by: Joe Mannix (

She can pump my accelerator anytime.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (eYF7X)

173 164 Umm, okay. Did the Beatles actually exist?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (AdHga)

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In the film, they did but never got together.

Also, there is no Coca-Cola or Oasis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

174
Yesterday, I watched Yesterday.
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Umm, okay. Did the Beatles actually exist?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (AdHga)

No. Like the scrolling at the beginning stated:

Someone went back in time and killed baby Hitler.
Because of that, the Beatles never existed.
And Jerry Lewis became President.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (QzZeQ)

175 173 164 Umm, okay. Did the Beatles actually exist?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:56 PM (AdHga)

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In the film, they did but never got together.

Also, there is no Coca-Cola or Oasis.
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So its all Fanta and Polka Music?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:59 PM (AdHga)

176 So far this week two people have dropped dead mid sentence while addressing an audience, one while on a rant against the Christian God and another while singing on stage. Yesterday a crazy bastid threw a grenade at a council meeting killing one and injuring a dozen others..

Sings : Have a Holly Jolly Christmas by Burl Ives

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 15, 2023 03:00 PM (7cPAc)

177 If there's anyone that could overcome those obstacles, it would be Musk. He's already doing what people thought was impossible 10-15 years ago.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 15, 2023 02:55 PM (BdMk6)
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He's the real-life version of Reid Malenfant from Stephen Baxter's Manifold series. A visionary with a plan and the determination to achieve it.

Eventually Musk will go out into space himself, discover an alien gateway artifact and the universe as we know it will change forever...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 03:00 PM (7fElN)

178 175 So its all Fanta and Polka Music?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 02:59 PM (AdHga)

========

There's a bit where a marketing guru says that the main character can't name his first album The White Album because of "racial implications."

It's not treated as understandable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 15, 2023 03:01 PM (GBKbO)

179 Sings : Have a Holly Jolly Christmas by Burl Ives
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Was Burl Ives gay?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:01 PM (AdHga)

180 It would be extremely difficult to have a space program - even a private one - outside of the first world. It might not be impossible, but it would require building that. All of it. All at once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I see the bigger hurdle one of security. There is a reason the world still invests in the USA. Bad as we are, we are unlikely to have the state steal private corporate assets. Also if an adversary takes out our satellites, there may be consequences.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 03:01 PM (KLXLF)

181 Someone went back in time and killed baby Hitler.
Because of that, the Beatles never existed.
And Jerry Lewis became President.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (QzZeQ)

I always say if I could go back in time, I'd get rid of baby FDR.

Posted by: InZona at December 15, 2023 03:02 PM (ayzdi)

182 RE: FCC harrassment of Musk via Starlink...

What has Google done for Ukraine's military effort? I didn't see them laying fiber for the war effort (or the rural communities that still don't have broadband internet). What about Amazon's Project Kuiper? Maybe Amazon haven't provided free satellite internet to Ukraine because their product is currently vaporware (or shit)?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI expert at December 15, 2023 03:02 PM (pIx7m)

183 Was Burl Ives gay?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:01 PM (AdHga)

I believe he was a Commie, so yeah.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 03:02 PM (bPuW2)

184 It would make an interesting story - no FDR.

Posted by: InZona at December 15, 2023 03:02 PM (ayzdi)

185 Bad as we are, we are unlikely to have the state steal private corporate assets.
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We're getting there.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 15, 2023 03:03 PM (ScR16)

186 181 Someone went back in time and killed baby Hitler.
Because of that, the Beatles never existed.
And Jerry Lewis became President.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (QzZeQ)

I always say if I could go back in time, I'd get rid of baby FDR.
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I'd make sure Abe Lincoln stayed in Illinois.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:03 PM (AdHga)

187
And Jerry Lewis became President.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (QzZeQ)

So you're saying that the French took over the world.

Pax Frogiana

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (n+4am)

188 The Cybertruck looks like a rejected design for the Star Wars landspeeder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 02:40 PM (bPuW2)
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I support the effort, but that design is gawdawful. I thought the prototype design was silly and couldn't possibly resemble the final product -- I was sadly mistaken.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO

WOW!
That thing is Fugly!

Posted by: AMC at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (cOq4q)

189 "Ace of Spades is 0% because of misinformational cruelty."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

2% for boobs. There must be one or two straight guys on the review board.

Posted by: mikeski at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (BVrT0)

190 Elon Musk went from Left hero to Left villain in the blink of an eye. In reverse for Big Pharma. They raged at pharmaceutical firms my whole life, and then instantly became erotically fixated on their total awesomeness.

I stand in awe of American propaganda. It's the most effective in history. It's just... astounding. They've cultivated perfect human-sheep-badger hybrid livestock. A third of the population just mills around aimlessly waiting to be turned on a target, and then the fangs come out and the headlong rush to destroy begins.

It's fascinating to watch it work. Terrifying, but amazing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (0FoWg)

191 Bad as we are, we are unlikely to have the state steal private corporate assets.
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The State doesn't need to steal them. They just embed themselves within the private corporate assets or subvert them for their own purposes. Often with the assistance of the people in charge of the assets who benefit personally from government largesse.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (7fElN)

192 2% for boobs. There must be one or two straight guys on the review board.
Posted by: mikeski at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (BVrT0)

They are the ones who whack it to Admiral Ackbar's honeys.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 03:05 PM (bPuW2)

193 "Bad as we are, we are unlikely to have the state steal private corporate assets."

I can at least steal some corporate assets.

Posted by: Eminent Domain at December 15, 2023 03:05 PM (aXxgO)

194 2% for boobs. There must be one or two straight guys on the review board.
Posted by: mikeski at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (BVrT0)

They are the ones who whack it to Admiral Ackbar's honeys.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2023 03:05 PM (bPuW2)
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Any large enough group will have its chubby chasers...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 03:06 PM (7fElN)

195 I always say if I could go back in time, I'd get rid of baby FDR.
Posted by: InZona at December 15, 2023 03:02 PM (ayzdi)

I suspect the biggest alternate history inflection point in modern times is that Veep George Bush followed Reagan and largely started the undoing of all that Reagan had achieved.

If Reagan had had a similarly minded-Veep follow him, , that would've aced out Clinton/Hillary! and a lot of today's current nonsense would've been stillborn.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 03:07 PM (QzZeQ)

196 WOW!
That thing is Fugly!
Posted by: AMC

All my life I wanted a Pacer. A neighbor had one on my paper route and I thought is was the greatest design ever.

Don't trash talk AMC.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 03:07 PM (KLXLF)

197 And Jerry Lewis became President.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 02:58 PM (QzZeQ)

Great balls of fire. Or is that the wrong Jerry Lewis?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 15, 2023 03:07 PM (hCt6Y)

198 Any large enough group will have its chubby chasers...
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Check out ancient fertility goddesses.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (AdHga)

199 "Perfessor" Squirrel: "They just embed themselves within the private corporate assets or subvert them for their own purposes."

Heh. Just like Musk already experienced with Twitter personnel. They aren't "going to do it," they've already done it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (aXxgO)

200 Ackbar links pigs. Do not click.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (R4t5M)

201 Any large enough group will have its chubby chasers...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 03:06 PM (7fElN)
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That term is demeaning.

We prefer to be called "Big Dame Hunters"

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Big Dame Hunters at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (zxP/x)

202 The weekend is here, the Weekend is Here!

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (fwDg9)

203 Was Burl Ives gay?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:01 PM (AdHga)

Funny you asked. Just last week I read up on his bio and he was a protege of Pete Seger for a time. During the commie hunt I think in the 50's Ives testified against the Marxists. Ives was a rock ribbed patriot at least on the surface. Ives traveled the rails in his early years. Im thinking the hobo camps may have had a shortage of wimenz.. but who knows. The man did have some talent

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (7cPAc)

204 >>> I see the bigger hurdle one of security. There is a reason the world still invests in the USA. Bad as we are, we are unlikely to have the state steal private corporate assets. Also if an adversary takes out our satellites, there may be consequences.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

It happens. Small start-up with real innovative new tech have had their IP stolen and given to Big Defense Contractor, Inc. because national security... and they make you sign a NDA under penalty of life imprisonment for 'spying' if you let word out of what was seized.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (cOq4q)

205 >>>I suspect the biggest alternate history inflection point in modern times is that Veep George Bush followed Reagan and largely started the undoing of all that Reagan had achieved.

1979: Ronald Reagan selects G. Gordon Liddy as his running mate.
2023: Human utopia finally achieved.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 03:09 PM (CwhoI)

206 Skip, did you decide to go see "Napoleon?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 15, 2023 03:09 PM (ScR16)

207 I suspect the biggest alternate history inflection point in modern times is that Veep George Bush followed Reagan and largely started the undoing of all that Reagan had achieved.

1979: Ronald Reagan selects G. Gordon Liddy as his running mate.
2023: Human utopia finally achieved.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 03:09 PM (CwhoI)

This guy gets it!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 03:10 PM (QzZeQ)

208 Don't trash talk AMC.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 03:07 PM (KLXLF)

I've always wanted a Hornet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 03:10 PM (9UlRk)

209
Was Burl Ives gay?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:01 PM (AdHga)

I suspect you're thinking of Will Geer, who was Harry Hay's squeeze. HH was a flaming NAMBLA supporter and iconic ghey activist (meaning that he didn't have a job and contributed nothing to society at large).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2023 03:11 PM (n+4am)

210 That term is demeaning.

We prefer to be called "Big Dame Hunters"
Posted by: International Brotherhood of Big Dame Hunters at December 15, 2023 03:08 PM (zxP/x)
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Just out of curiosity, is your motto "Thar She Blows!"?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 03:11 PM (7fElN)

211 What hasn't the Federal Government assessed an annual fee for NewsGuard? They could just have a line in Form 1040 for it.

Posted by: torabora at December 15, 2023 03:11 PM (OUiUM)

212 >>It happens. Small start-up with real innovative new tech have had their IP stolen and given to Big Defense Contractor, Inc. because national security... and they make you sign a NDA under penalty of life imprisonment for 'spying' if you let word out of what was seized.

Sometimes small innovative startups become part of the government but pretend they are private companies. Like Google.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 03:11 PM (ZLI7S)

213 Elon Musk went from Left hero to Left villain in the blink of an eye. In reverse for Big Pharma. They raged at pharmaceutical firms my whole life, and then instantly became erotically fixated on their total awesomeness.

I stand in awe of American propaganda. It's the most effective in history. It's just... astounding. They've cultivated perfect human-sheep-badger hybrid livestock. A third of the population just mills around aimlessly waiting to be turned on a target, and then the fangs come out and the headlong rush to destroy begins.

It's fascinating to watch it work. Terrifying, but amazing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (0FoWg)

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It's like witnessing a Psych 101 experiment with half of the participants lobotomized.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 03:12 PM (R9QMz)

214 Rock ribbed patriot?

Burl Ives?!

He was a Soviet agent. He turned stoolie when he got popped by McCarthy, that's all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 03:12 PM (0FoWg)

215 It happens. Small start-up with real innovative new tech have had their IP stolen and given to Big Defense Contractor, Inc. because national security... and they make you sign a NDA under penalty of life imprisonment for 'spying' if you let word out of what was seized.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Yes, I am intimately aware of this.
But still, my point is that there are still not a lot of countries where Musk could have done what he did with SpaceX

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 03:12 PM (KLXLF)

216 No, Burl Ives was probably not gay. He was married the first time for about 22 years and had a son. He remarried another time and stayed married until his death about 15 years later.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2023 03:14 PM (RSbhh)

217 It's fascinating to watch it work. Terrifying, but amazing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 03:04 PM (0FoWg)

There are some days i think that it's not so much that people are that malleable, it's just that they rotate out one clique for another. These 2,000 loud stupid assholes suddenly replace the previous 2,000 loud stupid assholes.

And of course those who make a living being wrong for a living have never believed a word they've ever said anyway, so they can volte face like a well trained soldier.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 03:15 PM (9UlRk)

218 214 Rock ribbed patriot?

Burl Ives?!

He was a Soviet agent. He turned stoolie when he got popped by McCarthy, that's all.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper

Are you giving me the Jim Carey 'Talkin out yer ass' signal heh heh

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 15, 2023 03:15 PM (7cPAc)

219 But still, my point is that there are still not a lot of countries where Musk could have done what he did with SpaceX
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

To be fair, there is only one country where he did.
If he can 'diversify' he would be wise to do so.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 03:16 PM (cOq4q)

220 OT but I had a physical yesterday
My first in a few years. It took me about when the doctor checked for signs of dementia
I'm fine.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 15, 2023 03:16 PM (hCt6Y)

221 Totalitarianism, like bankruptcy:

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.
"Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

From Ernest Hemingway, in his 1926 breakthrough novel, The Sun Also Rises.Jul 8, 2022

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 15, 2023 03:17 PM (IBDwy)

222 I don't think we can move on to another topic until we've settled the Burl Ives Question.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 03:17 PM (CwhoI)

223 Or maybe it was HUAC. Anyway, one of them shook down Ives, and he shit the bed. Dimed out a bunch of his cock-knocking commie palz once he was under the hammer..

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 03:17 PM (0FoWg)

224 Twitter was the uncontested playground of the left for years. Every crazed conspiracy theory about Trump and conservatives was not just tolerated it was promoted while true facts about everything from the China virus to the stolen election to the Biden corruption was hidden. And then overnight all of that changed.

They didn't need much propaganda, the left lost power to do the lowest tweeter and the guy who did that was Musk. He stole their privilege and they hate him for it.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2023 03:17 PM (ZLI7S)

225 My first in a few years. It took me about when the doctor checked for signs of dementia
I'm fine.
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 15, 2023 03:16 PM (hCt6Y)

Who wants to tell him he was actually at the DMV?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 03:17 PM (9UlRk)

226 Yes, I am intimately aware of this.
But still, my point is that there are still not a lot of countries where Musk could have done what he did with SpaceX
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If Musk was a character in a science fiction story he would have purchased (or created) a micronation in a region of the world conducive to space launches, then built up the necessary infrastructure over a generation or so, just so he could have the best place on Earth for getting to space.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 03:18 PM (7fElN)

227 Burl Ives smuggled TS plans to Moscow in his prison wallet.

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228 Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 15, 2023 03:17 PM (CwhoI)

O.K. but I was not the original poster who asked the question about Burl Ives supposedly being gay.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2023 03:18 PM (RSbhh)

229 Hundreds of channels!

They all say the same thing.

But, we have choice.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 03:18 PM (cOq4q)

230 How come women weight lifters are not sponsored by Kotex?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:18 PM (AdHga)

231 Weird bowlegged chick with the abs is back.

Posted by: wth at December 15, 2023 03:19 PM (v0R5T)

232 What is the AoS Newsguard rating?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2023 03:19 PM (NYzgN)

233 But Burl was a jolly guy, loved Christmas, smiled… all the time… rather disconcerting, actually…

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2023 03:19 PM (PCK5/)

234 We have a garbage government unworthy of its citizens.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 15, 2023 03:19 PM (rJ48h)

235 chick with abs, you say....?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 15, 2023 03:20 PM (xcxpd)

236 Maybe Amazon haven't provided free satellite internet to Ukraine because their product is currently vaporware (or shit)?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI expert

They just tested a one-hour connection between 2 sats. So... it's a ways off.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2023 03:20 PM (IG4Id)

237 I don't think we can move on to another topic until we've settled the Burl Ives Question.

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Best version of Frosty the Snowman?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 15, 2023 03:20 PM (FVME7)

238 How come women weight lifters are not sponsored by Kotex?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:18 PM (AdHga)

Are they part of Unilever, or Johnson and Johnson?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 15, 2023 03:20 PM (9UlRk)

239 231 Weird bowlegged chick with the abs is back.
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Yeah, I saw that. At least she's not removing parasite peas from her body.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 15, 2023 03:20 PM (AdHga)

240 nood bud lite

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 15, 2023 03:20 PM (bving)

241 Social media is the only place you can be an expert on something you know nothing about.

That might be true if universities didn't exist. I'd add barbershop, domino halls..but nobody really cares if LeBron is the goat.

Posted by: Kitchner Lesley at December 15, 2023 03:21 PM (6eiFq)

242 nood bud lite
Posted by: SturmToddler

An AI Burl Ives is their new front man.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 03:22 PM (cOq4q)

243 I saw Napoleon right after Thanksgiving and it was going to Hell or High water, been asking would others advise someone to see it.
It has good points but lots of very bad points.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2023 03:22 PM (fwDg9)

244 214 Rock ribbed patriot?

Burl Ives?!

He was a Soviet agent. He turned stoolie when he got popped by McCarthy, that's all.
Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper

The folk Music cabal were a hell of a bunch foisted on the US music scene in the day huh? Who knew? Peter Paul and Mary, The Kingston Trio are two groups that come to much attention to them and thought their fans were a bunch of college nerds. pre the student loan era...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 15, 2023 03:24 PM (7cPAc)

245 Musk didn't become anyone's hero or villain on the right. Sure, they like that he took over X. But all I ever heard from people on the right was "Tesla's dumb, SpaceX rocks, Musk is a weirdo." I don't think that assessment has moved very much.

On the Left, people *worshipped* Musk because of Tesla. They lined up to buy his shitcoin. They'd have sucked him off on command.

Now? HE'S A DEMON!!!1!!!1

Posted by: Yudhishthira Florian Maria Hohenzollern von Schloengishugen, Liechtensteinian Usurper at December 15, 2023 03:24 PM (0FoWg)

246 "Like Google."

and Twitter.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 15, 2023 03:25 PM (Z8Yh2)

247
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At least I didn't miss the Mannix babe.

Posted by: wth at December 15, 2023 03:28 PM (v0R5T)

248 I agree that this cannot go on Ace, but exactly how does anyone stop it. Do 10,000 people march on D.C. with pitchforks, torches and hound dogs? If so, then what happens? The J6 political prisoners have languished in Moloch Garland's archepelago for almost 3 years now, with no end in sight. If there were ever to be a real insurrection, all of those involved in it would suffer the same fate as Ashli Babbit. All enemies of the Regime will be eliminated one way or another, either by lawfare or bullets. We are literally without hope of ever recovering our Constitutional Republic.

Posted by: Agamemnon at December 15, 2023 03:31 PM (Gk9Cz)

249 This. Cannot. Go. On.

Sure it can.

Yesterday, the Republicans voted to keep and expand warrantless spying by unaccountable federal bureaucrats on Americans by passing FISA reauthorization in the NDAA.

The GOP hates us, and is walking two steps behind the Hate America First democrats.

Posted by: Dantes at December 15, 2023 03:32 PM (F0noo)

250 Why doesn't a government agency harass Bill Gates, or the freakin Chinese shell companies who are buying up U.S. farmland?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI expert at December 15, 2023 03:38 PM (pIx7m)

251 I am not going to read the whole thing and you can’t make me!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 15, 2023 04:03 PM (FgV+x)

252 Remember when the left demanded the FCC revoke the Starlink reward because Musk refused to, what was it, automatically make it freely available to be used in Biden's military targeting in Ukraine.

Starlink was providing free service to the Ukrainian military.

What Musk refused to do was provide the Ukrainian military with Starlink service **in Crimea**, because he thought that using Starlink to target Crimean targets would be a major escalation of the war.

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