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Hunter Biden Files For Dismissal of Federal Gun Charges; Speaker Johnson Says Biden's Stonewalling Compells a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation

Thanks to rick223, Hunter Biden continues with his "Dark Hunter" legal strategy of suing his enemies and aggressively meritless filings to dismiss.


Attorneys representing Hunter Biden have asked a federal judge to dismiss three felony gun charges he faces in Delaware as part of their effort to curb the increasingly fraught legal landscape faced by President Joe Biden's son.

In a flurry of court papers filed Monday, Abbe Lowell, an attorney for Hunter Biden, offered a series of arguments for dismissing the gun case, claiming that the special counsel was "unlawfully appointed" and therefore lacks the authority to bring charges; that the immunity stipulation in a section of the parties' ill-fated plea deal remains in effect; and that the gun crimes in question may not be constitutional.

"These charges are unprecedented, unconstitutional and violate the agreement the U.S. Attorney made with Mr. Biden and DOJ's own regulations," Lowell said in a statement. "This is not how an independent investigation is supposed to work, and these charges should be dismissed."

We discussed this back then: That Hunter Biden would argue, possibly successfully that the fact that he had even discussed this immunity deal would be sufficient to actually deliver him that immunity. He'd claim that his agreement to the deal prejudiced him (somehow) so he should have the benefit of the deal.

In fact -- who knows -- maybe this was always the plan.

The other part, that the Special Counsel was "unlawfully appointed," is interesting. Conservatives have been arguing that for months. The DOJ rules say that a Special Counsel must be appointed from outside the DOJ, and Weiss was not from outside the DOJ. He was a US Attorney when appointed.

But that doesn't seem to be what Lowell/Hunter is arguing. They seem to be arguing that... Congress hasn't specifically appropriated money to fund this particular Very Special Prosecutor, so it's not a real Very Special Prosecutor?

I dunno, I never heard that sort of a claim before.

...


Weiss' office filed the gun-related charges in September, shortly after Attorney General Merrick Garland elevated him to special counsel.

He could have filed the charges before he was appointed Very Special Counsel -- in which case there'd be no technical objection to his capacity to bring the charges.

But he waited until there was a legal objection to his authority to bring the charges, to bring the charges.


The conduct described in charging documents dates to October of 2018, when Hunter Biden procured a gun despite later acknowledging in his memoir, "Beautiful Things," that he was addicted to drugs around that time.

...

And while the statute cited by prosecutors is clear -- it is a crime to lie on a gun application form or to possess a firearm as a drug user -- legal experts have said prosecutors could face headwinds. A federal appeals court in New Orleans recently ruled that drug use alone should not automatically prevent someone from obtaining a gun. That ruling is not binding, since the Fifth Circuit does not cover Delaware.

That's not the question -- the crime is LYING ON A GUN FORM.

If he told the truth, that he was an addict, he could have brought suit and argued that his addiction should not bar him from gun ownership. Instead, he lied on official gun purchase form. He committed perjury.

It's amazing how much the NewsGuard-approved media gets wrong in every singe article over matters so simple.

"While Congress could criminalize gun possession from someone who was actively intoxicated, or perhaps someone who at least actively had a controlled substance in their body, a prohibition on gun ownership by anyone who had at some time used a controlled substance is constitutionally overbroad," Lowell wrote.

That is a challenge to the law, maybe -- but he still committed perjury. I suppose Lowell is arguing that if he can manage to get that law struck down as unconstitutional, then a perjurious answer about it is immaterial.

You'll remember "immateriality" from Clinton's impeachment, of course. It's the idea that "yes, he told a lie, but there is no legal harm in the lie, because nothing changes, legally, depending on whether the answer was true or false." Lowell is trying to get the law changed so that drug addicts can own a gun, so that it doesn't matter if Hunter lied on his form and claimed he wasn't addicted to drugs.

But that won't work, because his argument isn't even that drug addiction is entirely irrelevant to owning a gun, it's just that owning a gun shouldn't be an automatic per-se bar to owning one -- the state should consider other factors or whatever. Even in Lowell's own argument, the state is still entitled to a truthful answer about whether the gun applicant is addicted to drugs, so Hunter's lie is still material and hence perjurious.

Lowell is also arguing that the sweetheart deal offered to Hunter Biden in a Double Secret Codicil hidden in a side-document so the judge would not see it was necessary and proper to protect Hunter against any future prosecutions by a Rogue Trump Prosecutor, and that the DOJ -- under the control of Hunter Biden's own fucking father -- is guilty of cowardice in bringing "severe" charges against Hunter under political pressure.


Clark in his declaration also highlighted the deal's importance in shielding Hunter Biden from prosecution from a "possible future Trump-led DOJ" -- highlighting the possible fear that if Trump were to win back the presidency in 2024, he could seek have Hunter Biden further investigated for the same crimes. As such, Clark said he emphasized that a "critical and essential" aspect of the deal with prosecutors was the "broad immunity provision" that in their view would bring "closure and finality" to the yearslong investigation.

"They did not disagree," Clark said of the prosecutors regarding that point.

Lowell said Weiss "buckled under political pressure to bring more severe charges," accusing the special counsel of waging a "selective and vindictive prosecution" by pressing gun charges against the president's son.

"This is perhaps the clearest of cases of prosecutors making prosecutorial decisions for political reasons, selectively and vindictively prosecuting Mr. Biden based on his familial and political affiliation with his father, the President of the United States," Lowell wrote.

"Indeed," Lowell added in a footnote, "if this case is not the one to dismiss for selective and vindictive prosecution and breach of separation of powers, it is unclear what is left of those doctrines."

Again, Lowell is claiming that a judge must grant Hunter Biden immunity that a judge never affirmed (immunity deals must be okayed by a judge, to make sure the deal is just, which it plainly was not) because only "political pressure" ON HUNTER BIDEN'S FUCKING CORRUPT FATHER caused the deal to be withdrawn and charges to be filed.

I mean: Seriously?

Are you kidding?

It takes a crackhead.


In very related news, Speaker Johnson says that the House must vote to impeach Biden, because Biden continues stonewalling Congress' legitimate demand for witnesses and documents.

You know, the guy who's bowing to political pressure to press charges against Hunter.


House Speaker Mike Johnson on Tuesday defended a vote scheduled this week to formalize the impeachment inquiry into President Biden, arguing that unlike what Democrats did with the "sham impeachment" of former President Trump, Republicans are committed to the "rule of law."

Fox News' Chad Pergram pressed Johnson on an expectation from the GOP base to bring an impeachment vote sometime in the spring ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

Johnson explained that House Republicans have "come to this impasse" in their investigations into President Biden's alleged involvement in his son, Hunter Biden's business dealings, and are "hitting a stone wall because the White House is impeding that investigation" and not allowing witnesses to come forward and thousands of pages of documents. <>The vote on a resolution to formalize the House impeachment inquiry, which is currently set for Wednesday, is not the same as a vote to impeach.

"We have no choice to fulfill our constitutional responsibility. We have to take the next step. We're not making a political decision. It's not. It's a legal decision," Johnson said at the House Republican Conference press conference on Tuesday. "So people have feelings about it one way or the other. We can't prejudge the outcome. The Constitution does not permit us to do so. We have to follow the truth where it takes us and that is exactly what we're going to do."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:15 PM




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1 Evil

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:17 PM (N1tpc)

2 And first!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:17 PM (N1tpc)

3 So what? We live in a police state now. Does anyone still believe laws matter now?

Posted by: nraendowment at December 12, 2023 03:18 PM (+P659)

4 Why couldn't hunter be a normal crack head and just steal a gun out of a car? Problem solved.

Posted by: nckate at December 12, 2023 03:18 PM (SnxUt)

5 Hunter's team seems to have internalized The Chewbacca Defense and is using it wherever they can.

Will it work?

Probably.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2023 03:18 PM (XV/Pl)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

7 Hunter, forever with the "don't you know who I am" defense.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

8 You know Hunter still goes and checks that cubby in the WH.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 12, 2023 03:19 PM (bqazj)

9 Amazing old Hunter with no money to pay child support, has millions to sue everything and everybody

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (n2vyf)

10 Crackhead Hunter about to invoke the Bill Cosby Rule.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (sm6Pk)

11 That's not the question -- the crime is LYING ON A GUN FORM.

If he told the truth, that he was an addict, he could have brought suit and argued that his addiction should not bar him from gun ownership. Instead, he lied on official gun purchase form. He committed perjury.



Also, throwing said weapon in a trash can shouldn't be ignored either.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

12 Evil
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:17 PM (N1tpc)

The Bidens are just like the Gazans, born evil, with nary an innocent among them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (YdKh9)

13 Hunter has to be going rogue, the smart play would be to admit guilt, cut deals, and make it so it's an "old story" by the time November rolls around. Biden them pardons him for everything after he wins reelection.

The dumbest thing Hunter could be doing is trying to get into a pissing match with Elon Musk, the richest man in the world that owns Twitter and litigating all of this at every level.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (wMRY8)

14 read the content and still top ten...

Posted by: Silent at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (CrU4U)

15 Maybe it's time to appoint Bob Mueller to investigate Hunter Biden.

Good Ol' Bob Mueller. Wonder if he's still alive the old bastard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (mQ8ar)

16
The Bidens are just like the Gazans, born evil, with nary an innocent among them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (YdKh9)

Leave me out of this crazy Family

Posted by: Navy Joan at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (n2vyf)

17 er... make that 15

Posted by: Silent at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (CrU4U)

18 It’s ok if jr had a gun, he’s a hunter.

Posted by: MSNBC at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (3KiQ7)

19 12 The Bidens are just like the Gazans, born evil, with nary an innocent among them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (YdKh9)

The Stain of Muhammad, their Pedophile Prophet, forever upon their souls.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:22 PM (sm6Pk)

20 The Bidens are just like the Gazans, born evil, with nary an innocent among them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (YdKh9)

That the stripper's daughter is likely to be the most moral really says a lot.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:22 PM (N1tpc)

21 Also, throwing said weapon in a trash can shouldn't be ignored either.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

Across the street from a school, no less.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 12, 2023 03:22 PM (nC+QA)

22 After Anthony Fauci gets eaten by worms maybe there could be something appropriate for the Bidens.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (hCt6Y)

23 Again, Lowell is claiming that a judge must grant Hunter Biden immunity that a judge never affirmed (immunity deals must be okayed by a judge, to make sure the deal is just, which it plainly was not) because only "political pressure" ON HUNTER BIDEN'S FUCKING CORRUPT FATHER caused the deal to be withdrawn and charges to be filed.

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This is the only part that makes sense to me.

But I'm a moron so...

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (JeYYB)

24 21 Also, throwing said weapon in a trash can shouldn't be ignored either.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

Across the street from a school, no less.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 12, 2023 03:22 PM (nC+QA)

Wasn't that Beau's widow that he was screwing ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (n2vyf)

25 read the content and still top ten...
Posted by: Silent at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (CrU4U)

Sadly can't count, though.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (N1tpc)

26 3 So what? We live in a police state now. Does anyone still believe laws matter now?

They only matter when the powers that be want them to matter.

Posted by: Nation of men and not of laws at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (wtpA4)

27 The other part, that the Special Counsel was "unlawfully appointed," is interesting.

.. if a court ever holds this to be true, then Merrick Garland must go

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (RHGPo)

28 Leave me out of this crazy Family
Posted by: Navy Joan at December 12, 2023 03:21 PM (n2vyf)

Even your mama, who seems to be un-crazy, and un-evil, sued to get you your sperm donor's surname, because it would "open doors". But that may have been just a troll on her part.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:24 PM (YdKh9)

29 Well, at least we know the process is still the punishment.

break him financially

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2023 03:24 PM (NtVYv)

30 Wasn't that Beau's widow that he was screwing ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (n2vyf)

You're probably right. It was his girlfriend dejour at least.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 12, 2023 03:24 PM (nC+QA)

31 "Biden them pardons him for everything after he wins reelection."

Thanks for the laugh. If Biden is actually still above ground or manages not to resign at the convention, even I am starting to believe Trump will beat him like an old rug. That is me and apparently a lot of Democrats.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (blmVn)

32 We should use Hunter to overturn the Gun Control Act of 1968

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (xcxpd)

33 The dumbest thing Hunter could be doing is trying to get into a pissing match with Elon Musk, the richest man in the world that owns Twitter and litigating all of this at every level.
Posted by: Blago


And yet, that is exactly what he is going to do.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (QDDIb)

34 >>It's amazing how much the NewsGuard-approved media gets wrong in every singe article over matters so simple.

Thank you!

We strive.

Posted by: NewsGuard-approved media at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (5osR5)

35 > Also, throwing said weapon in a trash can shouldn't be ignored either.......

I believe Hunter's woman threw it away because she didn't trust him with a gun.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (R38qh)

36 . "So people have feelings about it one way or the other. We can't prejudge the outcome. The Constitution does not permit us to do so. We have to follow the truth where it takes us and that is exactly what we're going to do."

--------

Narrator: And where the truth will take them is a deep ravine where they can dump the evidence.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (yLTiL)

37 But Pierre Delecto said that they shouldnt look into and Joe Biden is a great man.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (CIS44)

38 26 3 So what? We live in a police state now. Does anyone still believe laws matter now?

They only matter when the powers that be want them to matter.
Posted by: Nation of men and not of laws at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (wtpA4)

------

This is true.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (JeYYB)

39 Look here, the son of a dictator is not to be treated this way.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (17s+e)

40 Wasn't that Beau's widow that he was screwing ?
Posted by: It's me donna


Well, she wasn't a widow at the time.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2023 03:26 PM (QDDIb)

41 pisses me off that this slapdick is living rent free, eating free, traveling free and if one of us had done anything remotely close to what he did... we'd be absolutely ruined.

Posted by: Silent at December 12, 2023 03:26 PM (CrU4U)

42 37 But Pierre Delecto said that they shouldnt look into and Joe Biden is a great man.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (CIS44)

-------

As the kids say, you triggered me. Fuck Mitt Romney and his pathetic pandering candy ass.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:26 PM (JeYYB)

43 That kindness and decency must be just around the corner.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:26 PM (hCt6Y)

44 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at December 12, 2023 03:26 PM (a3Q+t)

45
Well, she wasn't a widow at the time.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2023 03:26 PM (QDDIb)

Must have paid her big bucks... Not a word out of her

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:27 PM (n2vyf)

46 People give their kids such stupid ass names these days

Posted by: nckate at December 12, 2023 03:27 PM (SnxUt)

47 Also, throwing said weapon in a trash can shouldn't be ignored either.......

I believe Hunter's woman threw it away because she didn't trust him with a gun.

Posted by: bonhomme
==

Also something about drug use much less photographic evidence of drug use with said illegally bought gun... but dictator son so CHARGES DISMISSED.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 12, 2023 03:27 PM (17s+e)

48 I believe Hunter's woman threw it away because she didn't trust him with a gun.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (R38qh)

She should have sold it for a C-note to some random banger in da hood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:27 PM (YdKh9)

49 If you prosecute Hunter, Joe might lose.
If you DON'T prosecute Donald, he might win.

This is a clear example of the Clinton Protocol and the DOJ has no choice but to bend over and spread 'em for the Biden-nostra.

Posted by: JB1000 at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (QkwU6)

50 Bottom story of the day:

The Moscow Times:

Why Doesn’t The Russian Opposition Talk About Climate Change?

We've finally found the issue that will cause the Russian people to rise up, and overthrow Putin!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (YAtuc)

51 So what? We live in a police state now. Does anyone still believe laws matter now?

They only matter when the powers that be want them to matter.


Correct. That's what happens when a powerful government collects power to itself. They create more and more laws until everyone is guilty of something. Then, when the all-powerful eye falls on you, they can charge you with any number of crimes that you can't help but commit. The powerful and connected are never charged, and when called on it, they point to other powerful and connected people who were also not charged as precedent.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (R38qh)

52
Wasn't that Beau's widow that he was screwing ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (n2vyf)



I know he was before she was a widow......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (Zz0t1)

53 There is Joe Biden, lying like a stone wall!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 12, 2023 03:29 PM (krqg6)

54 Why is the threat of impeachment such a big deal now?
Because unlike the BS impeachments we've been subject to, this one will go to the Senate and he will be found guilty. And the dems can't allow that...whatever it takes.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2023 03:29 PM (W/lyH)

55 Thanks, Bill Clinton, for establishing that lying in official matters is just fine.

Posted by: pookysgirl knows what "is" is at December 12, 2023 03:29 PM (dtlDP)

56 It's hard to shake the feeling that this is all just more failure theater - you know "two weeks", "release the Kraken", "Durham is coming" blah blah blah

It doesn't mean that any of these legal nd political machinations are bad or useless on their face - but how many more times can we be expected to be a supportive audience to this little morality play that ends when the lights come on and everybody just gets in their cars and goes home with no consequences for anyone?

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 12, 2023 03:29 PM (5C4od)

57 Bottom story of the day:

The Moscow Times:

Why Doesn’t The Russian Opposition Talk About Climate Change?

We've finally found the issue that will cause the Russian people to rise up, and overthrow Putin!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (YAtuc)

My guess? Because they actually love their country and don't want to cripple it like western elites do?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:29 PM (N1tpc)

58 Hunter’s Lawyer Claims He’s Only Guilty of Being the Son of the President

http://tinyurl.com/466ecnb7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 03:29 PM (FVME7)

59 And so it begins…

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 12, 2023 03:30 PM (cMXNt)

60 Hunter Biden just goes along and snorts crack off whores asses, acts inappropriately with family members, has a bizarre relationship with Malia Obama, effs his dead brother's wife, loses his laptop, ignores his child, and just bumbles through life being told, "he's the smartest person I know."

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:30 PM (JeYYB)

61 So, Trump is already in front of a Judge on keeping classified documents.

Why are not Biden and Hunter?

(I know... I know...)

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2023 03:30 PM (xaFKb)

62 If all of the polar bears die, Putin will have to walk to work.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 12, 2023 03:30 PM (krqg6)

63 58 Hunter’s Lawyer Claims He’s Only Guilty of Being the Son of the President

And Donald Trump is only guilty of being Donald Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:30 PM (n2vyf)

64 Wasn't that Beau's widow that he was screwing ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:23 PM (n2vyf)


I know he was before she was a widow......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
==

You can't tell me that the Biden Brothers didn't slap a high five while spit roasting Beau's wife.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (17s+e)

65 I love the "and so it begins" guy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (JeYYB)

66 Hunter was texing Beau about how he was pile driving Beau's wife's hoohah.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

67
You can't tell me that the Biden Brothers didn't slap a high five while spit roasting Beau's wife.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (17s+e)



And likely Joe's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

68 Hunter is most likely the shot across the bow to scare off Sundowner

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (fwDg9)

69 You can't tell me that the Biden Brothers didn't slap a high five while spit roasting Beau's wife.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Pr

Or their Sister, but Joe was probably in on that one too.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (CIS44)

70 I saw an interesting conjecture this morning, that Biden was trying to force the Republicans to defund Ukraine...because he wants to defund them but does not want the blame. (what?)

I think the correct answer is:
B. Because he wants to use that in the election, and because he knows the war is lost (for most definitions of the word) and needs a scapegoat.

Getting R's to defund solves two problems - the election, and blame for the whole mess.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (5osR5)

71 Hunter Biden just goes along and snorts crack off whores asses, acts inappropriately with family members, has a bizarre relationship with Malia Obama, effs his dead brother's wife, loses his laptop, ignores his child, and just bumbles through life being told, "he's the smartest person I know."
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:30 PM (JeYYB)

Is there any evidence he does not snort coke off of Joe's ass?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:32 PM (hCt6Y)

72 Everybody lies about screwing their brother's widow!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 03:33 PM (FVME7)

73 The year is 2024. There are two reasons the dem base would run out to vote for Biden, neither of them having to do with Biden:

1) Trump is candidate
2) Republicans pursue impeachment and dem base has a fit

Not saying that this should disqualify the existence of either of these. More that Biden is just a plastic dog crap bag in a breeze.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 12, 2023 03:33 PM (KbCG3)

74
It's amazing how much the NewsGuard-approved media gets wrong in every singe article over matters so simple.

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Almost as if intentionally.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 03:33 PM (nW4F6)

75 Getting R's to defund solves two problems - the election, and blame for the whole mess.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (5osR5)

I dunno, how much did it hurt the Dems when they handed over Saigon?

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 12, 2023 03:34 PM (5C4od)

76 So, Trump is already in front of a Judge on keeping classified documents.

Why are not Biden and Hunter?
===
Also. it took six months to charge Rep. Santos; and six years [or more] to charge Hunter.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 12, 2023 03:34 PM (krqg6)

77 Fucking scum.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2023 03:34 PM (tUCF9)

78 These charges are unprecedented, unconstitutional and violate the agreement...

__________

The Jakie Chiles school of pleading.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2023 03:34 PM (0kQSM)

79
We should use Hunter to overturn the Gun Control Act of 1968
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:25 PM (xcxpd)


This.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2023 03:35 PM (n+4am)

80 You can't tell me that the Biden Brothers didn't slap a high five while spit roasting Beau's wife.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable


I don't think they did. I thought Hunter was tapping that while Beau was out of the country.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2023 03:35 PM (QDDIb)

81 The year is 2024. There are two reasons the dem base would run out to vote for Biden, neither of them having to do with Biden:

1) Trump is candidate
2) Republicans pursue impeachment and dem base has a fit

Not saying that this should disqualify the existence of either of these. More that Biden is just a plastic dog crap bag in a breeze.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

____

Trump on the ballot will rescue Biden, he doesn't have to do anything. Any other Republican, and Biden would be toast.

With Trump, the megadonors come out and write the $500 million checks and people walk across broken glass to keep Trump out of the WH.

Young people dislike Biden, but they truly hate Trump.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:35 PM (wMRY8)

82 1 Evil
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:17 PM (N1tpc)

Fucking red lectroids from across the 8th dimension....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:36 PM (xcxpd)

83 Getting R's to defund solves two problems - the election, and blame for the whole mess.
Posted by: Gentlemen
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Except defunding a lost cause in Ukraine is probably an election winning issue for Republicans.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:36 PM (wMRY8)

84 Hunter Biden: Uday and Qusay rolled into one.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:37 PM (CmpAD)

85 Trump on the ballot will rescue Biden, he doesn't have to do anything. Any other Republican, and Biden would be toast.

With Trump, the megadonors come out and write the $500 million checks and people walk across broken glass to keep Trump out of the WH.

Young people dislike Biden, but they truly hate Trump.
Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:35 PM (wMRY

That's why Trump has to run. Only Trump can make the masks fall off, show the Oligarchs and the Uniparty for who they really are.

Trump has more supporters than you think. And Biden has less.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:37 PM (xcxpd)

86 Oh no, vote harder y'all

Posted by: nckate at December 12, 2023 03:37 PM (SnxUt)

87 I think the correct answer is:
B. Because he wants to use that in the election, and because he knows the war is lost (for most definitions of the word) and needs a scapegoat.

Getting R's to defund solves two problems - the election, and blame for the whole mess.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (5osR5)

How many Americans really give a fat rat's ass about Ukraine, other than the simps with a Uke flag icon on the Twatters?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (YdKh9)

88 The dems will vote 100% against an impeachment inquiry which means the republicans can only lose a couple of votes. Who will the turncoats be?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (u73oe)

89 65 I love the "and so it begins" guy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:31 PM (JeYYB)

He is Quality

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (xcxpd)

90 Folks, please call a ceasefire in your Harvard bashing.

During the pause, please remember that David Hogg is now a Harvard alumna.

That is all.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (a3Q+t)

91 Not all speech is free.

Sohrab Ahmari
@SohrabAhmari
Two days after Claudine Gay claimed that genocidal rhetoric might be protected speech at Harvard because that’s how committed she is to free speech, her university canceled an event featuring a congressman who’d mocked …. Harvard cancel culture.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (FVME7)

92 Where's Maj. Healey to tell us Johnson is the worst SoH in the history of speakers, and utterly lacks testosterone and integrity, but mostly integrity?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (CsUN+)

93 Hunter Biden: Uday and Qusay rolled into one.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:37 PM (CmpAD)

I'm going to defend this degenerate, but SO FAR, we don't have any indication of torture dungeons. So not quite that level. (Mainly for lack of power, I think)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (N1tpc)

94 The dems will vote 100% against an impeachment inquiry which means the republicans can only lose a couple of votes. Who will the turncoats be?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

5 in "closely contested" seats.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 03:39 PM (CIS44)

95 In an interview, Hunter claims that Republicans hate people in recovery and are persecuting him to get to his father. He calls them very sick people and of course mother f*ckers. He doesn't claim innocence, just that Republicans are evil. Spoken just like a crackhead.

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2023 03:39 PM (FGQ5G)

96 This whole thing has gotten so crazy I'm starting to wonder what type of perverse 3D chess they are trying to play.

Hunter keeps filing wacko motions and in doing so, lands under the bus by his own supposed idiocy.

Joe "stays above the fray" and governs, dealing with all sorts of difficult crises.

At some point, pre election, Hunter is convicted of some gun violations and minor corruption. He admits he has erred and checks into a treatment program, apologizing profusely.

Joe is frantically spun by the media as being "just a Dad trying desperately to help his only remaining son, and one of two victims here". What father wouldn't take some political hits to protect his son? Republicans are reviled as heartless, pouncing villains.

Hunter goes into his rehab treatment pre-sentencing.

The nation unites to re-elect Joe, the father of the year.

Joe and Hunter are named "Family Of The Year" by Time magazine.

Joe pardons Hunter.. They are photographed by the media driving off in Joe's Corvette waving to the crowd.

Biff. Boffo. Bang.

Posted by: RM at December 12, 2023 03:39 PM (urbih)

97 You'll remember "immateriality" from Clinton's impeachment, of course. It's the idea that "yes, he told a lie, but there is no legal harm in the lie, because nothing changes, legally, depending on whether the answer was true or false." Lowell is trying to get the law changed so that drug addicts can own a gun, so that it doesn't matter if Hunter lied on his form and claimed he wasn't addicted to drugs.

But that won't work, because his argument isn't even that drug addiction is entirely irrelevant to owning a gun, it's just that owning a gun shouldn't be an automatic per-se bar to owning one -- the state should consider other factors or whatever. Even in Lowell's own argument, the state is still entitled to a truthful answer about whether the gun applicant is addicted to drugs, so Hunter's lie is still material and hence perjurious.


Clinton got away with the "it's only a lie about sex" lie, so why not give this a shot?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2023 03:39 PM (CsUN+)

98 Isn't it true that in Ancient Israel the Jews were persecuted by the Romans for inadvertent error on one of the documents they were forced to submit.

In fact, this is the origin of one of our most holy days - Yom Kippur, which translates as "document error."

(Ironically, the error was that they forgot to list leavening on the bread recipe,...)

Posted by: Douglas Emhoff at December 12, 2023 03:39 PM (5osR5)

99 50 Bottom story of the day:

The Moscow Times:

Why Doesn’t The Russian Opposition Talk About Climate Change?

We've finally found the issue that will cause the Russian people to rise up, and overthrow Putin!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (YAtuc)

The Russians know that scam was a weapon they directed at us.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

100 Lawyers gotta Yer, or some such BS.
*churns the billable hours

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2023 03:40 PM (w9Wax)

101 By the legal standards set forth by the plaintiffs against Trump in CO, this is insurrection. You can not disagree with the government.

claiming that the special counsel was "unlawfully appointed" and therefore lacks the authority to bring charges; that the immunity stipulation in a section of the parties' ill-fated plea deal remains in effect; and that the gun crimes in question may not be constitutional.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2023 03:40 PM (s5ZnM)

102 bUt tRumP sAid PussY

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:40 PM (lFwAV)

103 I'm all for Hunter getting a gun. It is a civil right. What I am awaiting is shitholes recognizing the civil rights of their prisoners - aka citizens.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 03:41 PM (ntk8v)

104 Even in Lowell's own argument, the state is still entitled to a truthful answer about whether the gun applicant is addicted to drugs, so Hunter's lie is still material and hence perjurious.

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"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 03:41 PM (nW4F6)

105
Clinton got away with the "it's only a lie about sex" lie, so why not give this a shot?
Posted by: Archimedes

This is it exactly -- "It's only a lie about drug use."

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:41 PM (5osR5)

106 Hunter Biden: Uday and Qusay rolled into one.
Posted by: washriverga


All the nastiness without the brains.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (QDDIb)

107 I expect Hunter to die of a drug overdose.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (hCt6Y)

108 They are going for Clinton Defense strategy 2:

Gun charges in DE? Taxes in CA? China? Ukraine? Bribery? Influence peddling? Loan repayments? Congressional investigation? Ahhh it is too much! Too confusing! Just forget it!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (s5ZnM)

109 Winter is cold and it's global warming's fault!

USA TODAY
@USATODAY
The weather is getting cold. Global warming is still making weather weird.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (FVME7)

110 Lawyers gotta Yer, or some such BS.
*churns the billable hours
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2023 03:40 PM (w9Wax)

Funny how so many lawyers are eager to work for scumbag who professes to be broke, isn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (YdKh9)

111 How many Americans really give a fat rat's ass about Ukraine, other than the simps with a Uke flag icon on the Twatters?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Much of the Dem base, including the twitterati and the young.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (5osR5)

112
How many Americans really give a fat rat's ass about Ukraine, other than the simps with a Uke flag icon on the Twatters?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (YdKh9)

Less than 10% Is my guess.

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (lFwAV)

113
I'm going to defend this degenerate, but SO FAR, we don't have any indication of torture dungeons. So not quite that level. (Mainly for lack of power, I think)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (N1tpc)

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I don't know. Having to see pictures of Hunter's teeth (pre-caps) was traumatizing and seeing that pic of him in a jockstrap was torture.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (JeYYB)

114 93 Hunter Biden: Uday and Qusay rolled into one.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:37 PM (CmpAD)

I'm going to defend this degenerate, but SO FAR, we don't have any indication of torture dungeons. So not quite that level. (Mainly for lack of power, I think)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (N1tpc)

++++
Seems to be a sadistic sort but he probably draws the line somewhere. Where? We really don't know.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (CmpAD)

115 @USATODAY
The weather is getting cold. Global warming is still making weather weird.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (FVME7)



Oh, just f*ck off......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)

116 Ah think Hunter is innocent . . . And ah'll support him as long as I can date his ex in Arkansas.


I think I'm gonna tell her to 'kiss it.' Yeah, ah'm definitely gonna tell her to kiss it.

Posted by: Bill H-is-for-Horndog Clinton at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (xDssC)

117
Much of the Dem base, including the twitterati and the young.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (5osR5)

The Young have moved on to Palestinian Genocide

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (n2vyf)

118 Cold winter weather is weird now? 🤣

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:43 PM (lFwAV)

119 Oh, man. We gotta drop all of it. We made some procedural errors and now we can't bring any charges. Oops.

Press: Hunter and Joe exonerated by the courts!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2023 03:44 PM (s5ZnM)

120 @USATODAY
The weather is getting cold.


In late December? I bet that's never happened before.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2023 03:44 PM (nfrXX)

121
Much of the Dem base, including the twitterati and the young.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:42 PM (5osR5)

In other words, the mob that would vote Democrat even if Biden were to dismember and eat a baby on live TV.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (YdKh9)

122 How many Americans really give a fat rat's ass about Ukraine, other than the simps with a Uke flag icon on the Twatters?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:38 PM (YdKh9)

I have Ukrainian friends. And I really don't like the idea of Russia just deciding it can roll up its neighbors if they don't want to join the Tzar's Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere.

And I'm only a simp for Vanessa Munley.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (xcxpd)

123 It's funny how many dumbasses jumped on the Ukraine bus.

The normies, from day one, looked at each other and said, "Oh shit, another money laundering scheme with the bonus of bankrupting the U.S."

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (JeYYB)

124 @USATODAY
The weather is getting cold.

In late December? I bet that's never happened before.


And just you wait. Next summer, it will be hot. It's climate CHAOS!

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (CsUN+)

125 Leftist are convinced skiing will not be a thing anymore in the next couple of decades cuz global climate change warming.

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (lFwAV)

126 Beau was going to be the equivalent of Qusay Hussein; the smart, competent one who could take over the family business. Hunter is Uday; the complete whack-job who is banging everything in sight and causing (almost) too much trouble for the family to be worth it. If Beau had lived, he would've probably had the common sense to keep the bribery and corruption on the DL instead of leaving his f***ing laptop full of gigabytes of evidence at a random repair shop.

Posted by: PabloD at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (9ne6L)

127 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (xcxpd)

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You should go fight.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (JeYYB)

128 You should go fight.
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (JeYYB)

The fight will come to me.

And you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:46 PM (xcxpd)

129 speaking of cold weather, you guys should see the emails I'm getting from the kids' parent FB group (from a cold cold college location, it rhymes with Cain)... no one's EVs are charging lol

like they plug them in the WHOLE DAY and they end up at 10 percent. and students don't have homes with built in charging stations so everyone is fighting over the ones on campus

dear Lord it's funny

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2023 03:46 PM (AcWfM)

130 122 I have Ukrainian friends. And I really don't like the idea of Russia just deciding it can roll up its neighbors if they don't want to join the Tzar's Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere.

And I'm only a simp for Vanessa Munley.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (xcxpd)

I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (sm6Pk)

131 107 I expect Hunter to die of a drug overdose.
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I expect the same for Joe.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (YoT4f)

132 Are you really worried about Russians invading the US?

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (JeYYB)

133 I have Ukrainian friends. And I really don't like the idea of Russia just deciding it can roll up its neighbors if they don't want to join the Tzar's Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere.


me too Mark and that's why I'm quiet on this one particular topic

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (AcWfM)

134 124 @USATODAY
The weather is getting cold.

In late December? I bet that's never happened before.

And just you wait. Next summer, it will be hot. It's climate CHAOS!

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2023 03:45 PM (CsUN+)

+++++

There are enough stupid people out there to give this kind of thinking leverage.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (CmpAD)

135 A formal vote, you say?

My word, this beginning to get serious.

*falls asleep in oatmeal*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (RIvkX)

136 "a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation"

Wow, they're really taking the gloves off! /sarc

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (MvF+J)

137 Putin has ever done anything to make my life worse. Biden on the other hand…

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (lFwAV)

138 The only reason to keep the war going in Ukraine is to keep a lid on all the nasty secrets there. The kickbacks are a distant 2nd to this.
Helluva reason for all the loss of life.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (MeG8a)

139 I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?
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He may not be a Christian but he certainly does not tolerate pedophilia. Putin wins in a knockout vs Biden, Obama, Clinton....

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (YoT4f)

140 82 1 Evil
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2023 03:17 PM (N1tpc)

Fucking red lectroids from across the 8th dimension....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:36 PM (xcxpd)

Eh, Imma so home-sick! I wanna go home!

Posted by: Lord Worfin at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (N3zMI)

141 I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (sm6Pk)

Seriously ? I don't think any of Us think that.. I personally don't like spending 100's of billions of our money on it when it could have been resolved over a year ago...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2023 03:49 PM (n2vyf)

142 I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (sm6Pk)

Dunno. The Horde contains multitudes, some assholes and some saints.

I think Vlad is a Russian Tzar and trustable to do one thing: whatever he thinks will benefit him and Russia.

I appreciate his vocal support of Christianity. Doesn't mean I trust him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:49 PM (xcxpd)

143 I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (sm6Pk)

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Don’t know about the horde, but my official position is that I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine. Europe can also kiss my ass.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2023 03:49 PM (u73oe)

144 I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (sm6Pk)

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No, the official Horde position is that it's not our fight and it's simply a money suck that the CIA instigated when they put a dumbass in as President. (Both the US and Ukraine)

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:49 PM (JeYYB)

145 Their entire election strategy in 2020 was that Trump was evil.

They do not need votes, they need backing from the media, blacks, and young.
-Media because they control the narrative
-Blacks because they control the inner cities where the fraud happens
-Young because that is the social media and academy opinion

Biden said it "I don't need your votes, I need you to support me afterward when I steal the election and install tyranny and there is resistance."

He is not working for votes, but for a plausible justification for why Republicans are evil and they are justified in frauding and silencing them.

The narrative will be - fraud for me, because look at the disaster the Rs did in Ukraine.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:50 PM (5osR5)

146 138 The only reason to keep the war going in Ukraine is to keep a lid on all the nasty secrets there. The kickbacks are a distant 2nd to this.
Helluva reason for all the loss of life.
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Your missing one other nasty secret - Biden was laundering Obama's grift for eight years. If you think NetFlix gave Obama $450M of their money to Obama for being a great guy I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 03:50 PM (YoT4f)

147 143 Don’t know about the horde, but my official position is that I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine. Europe can also kiss my ass.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2023 03:49 PM (u73oe)

I don't give a fuck about Ukraine either.

But Vlad certainly would never take me as a friend, so I can't really side with him either.

He and Zelenskyy can both fall into the abyss, AFAIC.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:50 PM (sm6Pk)

148 Russia can barely take care of business against Ukraine. I’m not worried about them invading Alaska any time soon, lol. This whole talk of “fight then there so they don’t fight us here” is ridiculous.

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:50 PM (lFwAV)

149 Where can I find a list of official horde positions?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (hCt6Y)

150 I have friends from Ukraine. And friends from Russia. I'm not giving them money to fight one another. I just don't care.

Posted by: nckate at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (SnxUt)

151 132 Are you really worried about Russians invading the US?

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (JeYYB)

You think Russia is what I'm worried about? Or that Russia is the fight I'm referring to? My enemy is a lot closer to home and a lot bigger than even Russia is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (xcxpd)

152 The X account "EndWokeness" has been doing a great job finding ridiculously expensive pizza and children themed "art" and other items on Etsy and bringing attention to them. This appears to be thin cover for pedo activities.

https://is.gd/pOi9ph

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (R38qh)

153 "The dems will vote 100% against an impeachment inquiry which means the republicans can only lose a couple of votes. Who will the turncoats be?"

The GOP has only a one-seat advantage once McCarthy and that guy who's going to Y'town State leave, I think both at the end of the month. Ken Buck seems the most likely candidate, since he's leaving at the end of the term, he's grifting for a gig on CNN or MSNBC, and he recently said there isn't enough evidence. But, shit, the GOP is full of cowards, quislings, backstabbers, and grifters, so there's probably 20-30 who would vote against impeachment if the price is right. Which would be a huge boost for Biden. "See, folks, I was exonerated. Ex-on-er-at-ed by the Republican House. I did nothing wrong -- and they agree!"

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (qUkBO)

154 Are you really worried about Russians invading the US?

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:47 PM (JeYYB)

You think Russia is what I'm worried about? Or that Russia is the fight I'm referring to? My enemy is a lot closer to home and a lot bigger than even Russia is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards



WOLVERINES!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (QDDIb)

155 He may not be a Christian but he certainly does not tolerate pedophilia. Putin wins in a knockout vs Biden, Obama, Clinton....
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (YoT4f)

I think Putin professes to be a Christian, Russian Orthodox, of course. That church has rebounded strongly under his rule, at any rate. Whether he is a true believer, or simply finds the church useful is open to debate, but at least he is not persecuting it like the Soviets did.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (YdKh9)

156 That's why Trump has to run. Only Trump can make the masks fall off, show the Oligarchs and the Uniparty for who they really are.

Trump has more supporters than you think. And Biden has less.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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We tried this last time, and Trump lost. Trump picked a lot of Trumpy candidates in the midterms, and they all lost.

What has changed? What new voter does Trump attract? if anything, he has lost even Republican support.

I think it's great that Trump under his gag order is within the margin of error, but once it's 24/7 Trump, you will see things flip back.

if Trump could just shut up and hide, he might have a shot.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (wMRY8)

157 149 Where can I find a list of official horde positions?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (hCt6Y)

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My ass. I've been stockpiling.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (JeYYB)

158
Worthless money, war, hookers and blow in the White House.

But they pay for abortions, so that's our democracy.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (j4U/Z)

159 "a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation"

*Black tie only

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (w9Wax)

160 Excellent. A formal investigation. That'll chew up a lot of news cycles, allow the left to stabilize their response playbooks while claiming that these issues are all "settled" when the Lo-Fos start tuning in next year, raise an absolute shit-ton of money for everybody regardless of "side," agitate the respective bases, allow politicians to get their soundbites and hot takes on camera to satisfy their vanity, distract from (and provide cover for) the abject failure to return to regular order, and get nothing done.

Perfect for American politics. I was wondering when it would happen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (zxP/x)

161 > I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?

I've no idea what gave you that impression. Do disembodied voices tell you to do things?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:53 PM (R38qh)

162 I don't think I know any Ukrainians. I do have some Russian neighbors and I am quite fond of them.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:53 PM (CmpAD)

163 What they are saying is that an illegal prosecutor under federal law tried to sneak in an immunity clause in the wrong place and got caught, therefore the immunity deal must be held as valid.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2023 03:53 PM (lTGtQ)

164 X account "EndWokeness" has been doing a great job finding ridiculously expensive pizza and children themed "art" and other items on Etsy and bringing attention to them. This appears to be thin cover for pedo activities.

https://is.gd/pOi9ph
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (R38qh)

Wayfair for was doing this as well, selling cabinets for $10k that could be bought at Home Depot for $200. And teach each item was named after a girl.

Posted by: Montec at December 12, 2023 03:53 PM (lFwAV)

165 Putin hates the Pedos. That's one point in his favor.

Ukraine is a haven for traffickers. Loss of 100 points for Ukraine.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (JeYYB)

166 But that won't work, because his argument isn't even that drug addiction is entirely irrelevant to owning a gun, it's just that owning a gun shouldn't be an automatic per-se bar to owning one -- the state should consider other factors or whatever. Even in Lowell's own argument, the state is still entitled to a truthful answer about whether the gun applicant is addicted to drugs, so Hunter's lie is still material and hence perjurious.
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Perjury, schmurjury.

Posted by: Everyone who has ever given Congressional testimony at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (zxP/x)

167
You think Russia is what I'm worried about? Or that Russia is the fight I'm referring to? My enemy is a lot closer to home and a lot bigger than even Russia is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards



Canadians?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

168 We don't have to take a side in every war. If Al Qaeda and Hamas started fighting, why would any of us need to make a case for one or the other?

Russia is bad, Ukraine is corrupt and we dont need to involve $100's of billions of our money in their war.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (wMRY8)

169 159 "a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation"

*Black tie only

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (w9Wax)

+++

LOL

Posted by: washrivergal at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (CmpAD)

170 We tried this last time, and Trump lost. Trump picked a lot of Trumpy candidates in the midterms, and they all lost.

What has changed? What new voter does Trump attract? if anything, he has lost even Republican support.

I think it's great that Trump under his gag order is within the margin of error, but once it's 24/7 Trump, you will see things flip back.

if Trump could just shut up and hide, he might have a shot.
Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (wMRY

Trump won. He got robbed. He gets robbed a second time, then maybe...MAYBE normies will wake up to what kind of country they're actually living in.

If he doesn't get robbed, he wins and MAYBE he'll clean house.

I don't see anyone else having a shot of either victory condition.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

171 Where can I find a list of official horde positions?
Posted by: That Northernlurke

Karma Sutra

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (s5ZnM)

172 163 What they are saying is that an illegal prosecutor under federal law tried to sneak in an immunity clause in the wrong place and got caught, therefore the immunity deal must be held as valid.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2023 03:53 PM (lTGtQ)

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So you're saying none of their legal arguments make sense.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (JeYYB)

173 "Biden was laundering Obama's grift for eight years."

I said secrets. They weren't even hiding this. And you can keep your bridge, thanks.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (MeG8a)

174 You think Russia is what I'm worried about? Or that Russia is the fight I'm referring to? My enemy is a lot closer to home and a lot bigger than even Russia is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


Canadians?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

lol

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

175 vlad is a motherf---er and no one wants him to roll over neighbors.

1. Ukraine never had a chance of beating them back to the border
2. The US has bigger problems
3. Vlad is at least on the right side of DEI, SJW, and defending the West
4. We need a strong russia against China and islam
5. We already won when Germany lost their cheap gas and leverage over Europe
6. Bad as vlad is, he is leagues better than the Western elite.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (5osR5)

176 159 "a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation"

*Black tie only
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (w9Wax)

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*dons tuxedo shirt*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

177 We should give Hunter some credit: he went through 6 million in blow and whores and he's still walking around up right. There are NBA players that couldn't do that.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (9X60i)

178 TRUMP LOST AND TRUMP SAID PUSSY AND NIKKI HALEY IS OUR ONLY HOPE!!!

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (6Y/Rl)

179 170 Trump won. He got robbed. He gets robbed a second time, then maybe...MAYBE normies will wake up to what kind of country they're actually living in.

If he doesn't get robbed, he wins and MAYBE he'll clean house.

I don't see anyone else having a shot of either victory condition.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

Normies will never wake up. Normies have jobs and kids.

They don't have 50,000 rounds of ammo.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (sm6Pk)

180 > Wayfair for was doing this as well, selling cabinets for $10k that could be bought at Home Depot for $200. And teach each item was named after a girl.

Notice all of the Etsy items in that post are "digital downloads." I wonder if they're using Stenography or something to smuggle pedo materials within the download package.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (R38qh)

181 Russia is bad, Ukraine is corrupt and we dont need to involve $100's of billions of our money in their war.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (wMRY

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You forgot to blame Trump.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (u73oe)

182 174 Canadians?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2023 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

lol
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

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Pfft. We all know it's the Galapagos.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

183 Took them a few months to put together the first impeachment of the previous guy, then a matter of weeks for the second.

GOP is still thinking about maybe the possibility of doing something.

Posted by: jhawk90 at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (WQtL9)

184 We don't have to take a side in every war. If Al Qaeda and Hamas started fighting, why would any of us need to make a case for one or the other?

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This seems reasonable.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (JeYYB)

185 I have Ukrainian friends. And I really don't like the idea of Russia just deciding it can roll up its neighbors if they don't want to join the Tzar's Greater Co-Prosperity Sphere.


me too Mark and that's why I'm quiet on this one particular topic
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (AcWfM)

As I've always said; there are no good guys in that war. And that includes the US. I support no one in that conflict.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (BdMk6)

186 178 TRUMP LOST AND TRUMP SAID PUSSY AND NIKKI HALEY IS OUR ONLY HOPE!!!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (6Y/Rl)

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I'm still a John Kasich man, myself.

He delivers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

187 "Why is the threat of impeachment such a big deal now?
Because unlike the BS impeachments we've been subject to, this one will go to the Senate and he will be found guilty." Posted by: Diogenes

Is that assuming the Dems are desperate to get Corrupt Joe off the ballot?

I've heard some question following through on actual impeachment, because once Senate finds him Not Guilty, he can't be retried later (in a regular court where he potentially gets real jail time for serious crimes).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (Cus5s)

188 A footnote in "The Hound of the Baskervilles" edition I just read referred to Ukraine as "Little Russia."

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (qUkBO)

189 159 "a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation"

*Black tie only
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (w9Wax)

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But still pants-optional, right?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (N3zMI)

190 143-XTC--This is response to a comment you made on a previous thread about how you could never please God because your father was never satisfied. This is a series of posts:

https://jdgreear.com/father-wound-1-never-satisfied-dad/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (RSbhh)

191 159 "a Formal Vote to Begin an Impeachment Investigation"

*Black tie only
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks

Bring out the Coors Banquet

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (s5ZnM)

192 ... Why Doesn’t The Russian Opposition Talk About Climate Change? ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 12, 2023 03:28 PM (YAtuc)
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LOL. Because it's not quite - but close to - a petrostate?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (zxP/x)

193 Kinda disappointed Putin has used a tactical nuke a few times already, just to see if they work and to scare the bejeebies out of the pansies in the pentagon.

You wanna get nuts? Let's get nuts!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2023 03:58 PM (mQ8ar)

194 Notice all of the Etsy items in that post are "digital downloads." I wonder if they're using Stenography or something to smuggle pedo materials within the download package.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (R38qh)

I think you mean "steganography".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 03:58 PM (YdKh9)

195 Normies will never wake up. Normies have jobs and kids.

They don't have 50,000 rounds of ammo.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (sm6Pk)

On my bad days, I believe you're right.

Well I guess that's why I have...um...less than 50k rounds but more than 10k.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:58 PM (xcxpd)

196 Nobody will touch a single precious hair on Hunter's head.

Gormless Old Prats will continue to dither and dance, hem and haw, and impeachment will go no where. It's dead in the Senate anyway so it's an entirely moo point.

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (PWI4f)

197 We should give Hunter some credit: he went through 6 million in blow and whores and he's still walking around up right. There are NBA players that couldn't do that.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (9X60i)
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Opportunity to alliterate with "blow and bitches" status: missed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (zxP/x)

198 > I think you mean "steganography".

Yeah, that.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (R38qh)

199 150 I have friends from Ukraine. And friends from Russia. I'm not giving them money to fight one another. I just don't care.
Posted by: nckate


What are we talking here, knives? MMA? Straight up street fighting?
Let us know, we may be able to make a deal

Posted by: Netflix at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (5osR5)

200 ... to protect Hunter against any future prosecutions by a Rogue Trump Prosecutor ...

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My kingdom for a Rogue Trump Prosecutor who will finally come!

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (9U9Km)

201 Bottom line is it's Ukraine, not My kraine.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (FVME7)

202 195 On my bad days, I believe you're right.

Well I guess that's why I have...um...less than 50k rounds but more than 10k.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 03:58 PM (xcxpd)

The only way a normie picks up a gun is when it becomes the ONLY way to feed their kid.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:00 PM (sm6Pk)

203 153 "The dems will vote 100% against an impeachment inquiry which means the republicans can only lose a couple of votes. Who will the turncoats be?"

The GOP has only a one-seat advantage once McCarthy and that guy who's going to Y'town State leave, I think both at the end of the month. Ken Buck seems the most likely candidate, since he's leaving at the end of the term, he's grifting for a gig on CNN or MSNBC, and he recently said there isn't enough evidence. But, shit, the GOP is full of cowards, quislings, backstabbers, and grifters, so there's probably 20-30 who would vote against impeachment if the price is right. Which would be a huge boost for Biden. "See, folks, I was exonerated. Ex-on-er-at-ed by the Republican House. I did nothing wrong -- and they agree!"
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (qUkBO)

And that's why Johnson has been so smart to go slow...he needs it to be overwhelming pressure from us to get the R group to vote unanimously...and he's love to peel some Dems in tough reelection districts into the vote...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:00 PM (exHjb)

204 Trump won. He got robbed. He gets robbed a second time, then maybe...MAYBE normies will wake up to what kind of country they're actually living in.

If he doesn't get robbed, he wins and MAYBE he'll clean house.

I don't see anyone else having a shot of either victory condition.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
___

If anything Trump losing again just reinforces that it's just a Trump problem.

If you wanted to steal an election, Trump is the perfect candidate to give enough cover.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:00 PM (wMRY8)

205 Putin gives anti-woke and anti-genderbender rhetoric, but he could be lying. Judging by their Victory Day parades, Russian govt gives proforma headnod to Christianity, but it could be fake. If we don't trust our own govt, I don't see any reason to trust any others.

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (MvF+J)

206 Did you hear that jackass, McCarthy say at a black tie event that the Republican party looked like an exclusive country club?

What?

Our candidates looked a lot more diverse than the crusty old men the dems had up on the debate stage before Biden was put in office.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (JeYYB)

207 Isn't Putin terrified of Dark Joe In Aviators?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (hCt6Y)

208 The only way a normie picks up a gun is when it becomes the ONLY way to feed their kid.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:00 PM (sm6Pk)

If anyone can do that, it's the Uniparty.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (xcxpd)

209 Notice all of the Etsy items in that post are "digital downloads." I wonder if they're using Stenography or something to smuggle pedo materials within the download package.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 03:56 PM (R38qh)
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Possibly. Or links to anonymized file sharing sites. I've seen that trick on AliExpress, buried in some unusual places. I needed a computer part and figured I'd see what they had since all that stuff comes from the PRC anyway and shipping time wasn't critical. There were lots of entries, some of which were very clearly actually download links to other things - something that is, of course, irrelevant for computer hardware. I don't know what that content actually was, but my guess was the same as yours.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (zxP/x)

210 I think it's great that Trump under his gag order is within the margin of error, but once it's 24/7 Trump, you will see things flip back.

if Trump could just shut up and hide, he might have a shot.
Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 03:52 PM (wMRY

———-

WTF are you talking about? Trump is in the news everyday. He makes comments everyday and holds interviews almost everyday.

The press writes about him everyday.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (cMXNt)

211
Executive production of Netflix specials is very lucrative, as well as advances for biographies that sell thousands of copies.

That's how the Obamas became so wealthy.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2023 04:02 PM (j4U/Z)

212 181 lol

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:02 PM (MvF+J)

213 We should give Hunter some credit: he went through 6 million in blow

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Six million over the line, sweet Jesus
Six million over the line

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 12, 2023 04:02 PM (FVME7)

214 If anything Trump losing again just reinforces that it's just a Trump problem.

If you wanted to steal an election, Trump is the perfect candidate to give enough cover.
Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:00 PM (wMRY

True...and he delivers the House to Dems, so nothing will happen with the fraud...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (exHjb)

215 Do they have a Hallmark card for dying countries?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (J8LnB)

216 Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:00 PM (wMRY

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You only believe this if you assume there won't be evidence of the fraud, just like there was evidence of the fraud in 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

217 > The only way a normie picks up a gun is when it becomes the ONLY way to feed their kid.

Wait, I'm not a normie?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (R38qh)

218 Do they have a Hallmark card for dying countries?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (J8LnB)
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"Fallmark Card."

It's mine now. Nobody else use it!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (zxP/x)

219 Putin gives anti-woke and anti-genderbender rhetoric, but he could be lying. Judging by their Victory Day parades, Russian govt gives proforma headnod to Christianity, but it could be fake. If we don't trust our own govt, I don't see any reason to trust any others.
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (MvF+J)

One thing he did do, that we know about, was to ban the adoption of Russian orphans by same-sex couples. That got Big Anus' panties in a wad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (YdKh9)

220 Northernlurker IMO this bunch is like herding cats, yet if it's supper time it's not hard at all

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

221 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (T4tVD)

222 214 True...and he delivers the House to Dems, so nothing will happen with the fraud...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (exHjb)

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What can the House do about fraud in Philadelphia?

Some more hearings? Where have these hearings been for the last 4 years?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (GBKbO)

223
Rogue Trump Prosecutor ...

Steiner? He's finally coming?

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (j4U/Z)

224 > The only way a normie picks up a gun is when it becomes the ONLY way to feed their kid.

Wait, I'm not a normie?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (R38qh)

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Oh sorry. We thought you knew.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (yLTiL)

225 222 214 True...and he delivers the House to Dems, so nothing will happen with the fraud...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:03 PM (exHjb)

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What can the House do about fraud in Philadelphia?

Some more hearings? Where have these hearings been for the last 4 years?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (GBKbO)

It can impeach the incoming president for fraud.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (exHjb)

226 Nobody will touch a single precious hair on Hunter's head.

Gormless Old Prats will continue to dither and dance, hem and haw, and impeachment will go no where. It's dead in the Senate anyway so it's an entirely moo point.
Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at December 12, 2023 03:59 PM (PWI4f)

Holy cow!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (BdMk6)

227 I figured that steganography was the study of the steganosaurus.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (9U9Km)

228 "I thought the official Horde position is that Vlad is the good guy and the world's last great defender of Christianity?"

I know a Catholic or two that think like that ... or at least think Putin protects Christians. I usually respond that Putin appreciates the cultural usefulness of Christian ethics ... (as opposed to our BigGov that declares us potential terrorists, that must be watched always, put on lists).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (Cus5s)

229 "Trump will lose by obvious cheating. I can't even quote polls anymore because they pretty much all show Trump beating Biden, but people will believe that Trump is the problem and just accept a new Biden term."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

230 It increasingly seems that the more degenerate you are the better your chances of having a rewarding life. Power, sex, wealth, all that.

Posted by: And it's a very depressing thought at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (wtpA4)

231 225 It can impeach the incoming president for fraud.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (exHjb)

With a Democrat Senate that won't convict.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:06 PM (sm6Pk)

232 225 It can impeach the incoming president for fraud.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (exHjb)

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Seriously, fuck off with this shit.

If you can't get 2/3 of the Senate, it's a jerkoff session. If, by some miracle, the House decides to impeach the president for fraud, the Senate votes it down and we get the "narrative" that there was no fraud in 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

233 Possibly. Or links to anonymized file sharing sites. I've seen that trick on AliExpress, buried in some unusual places. I needed a computer part and figured I'd see what they had since all that stuff comes from the PRC anyway and shipping time wasn't critical. There were lots of entries, some of which were very clearly actually download links to other things - something that is, of course, irrelevant for computer hardware. I don't know what that content actually was, but my guess was the same as yours.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:01 PM (zxP/x)

Or maybe you buy that grossly overpriced Hunter Biden painting, or that ten thousand dollar cabinet that sells for $200 at Home Depot, and when it's delivered you get a coupon to pick up a ten year-old Guatemalan boy at the bus depot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 04:06 PM (YdKh9)

234 I'm continuing to binge watch Midsomer Murders except for episodes involving mad vicars. I don't watch those.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (hCt6Y)

235 230 It increasingly seems that the more degenerate you are the better your chances of having a rewarding life. Power, sex, wealth, all that.
Posted by: And it's a very depressing thought at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (wtpA4)

You don't get in the club if you won't do anything the rest of the club can blackmail you for.

It's how they make sure nobody rats.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (sm6Pk)

236 230 It increasingly seems that the more degenerate you are the better your chances of having a rewarding life. Power, sex, wealth, all that.
Posted by: And it's a very depressing thought at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (wtpA4)

Then, it's probably a good thing that this life is temporary, and the next isn't...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (exHjb)

237 190 143-XTC--This is response to a comment you made on a previous thread about how you could never please God because your father was never satisfied. This is a series of posts:

https://jdgreear.com/father-wound-1-never-satisfied-dad/
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2023 03:57 PM (RSbhh)

Fenelon - It wasn't until a couple months ago that I actually heard my father say to me "I love you". I'm 57 and he is 82. Don't think I've ever heard "I'm proud of you". And I don't think he ever heard it from his father. But I can honestly say though I broke that cycle with my daughter.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (N39Ws)

238 It increasingly seems that the more degenerate you are the better your chances of having a rewarding life. Power, sex, wealth, all that.
Posted by: And it's a very depressing thought at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (wtpA4)
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Only in this world. Also, these people are often *very* unhappy despite all their riches, power, and fame.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (7fElN)

239 231 225 It can impeach the incoming president for fraud.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (exHjb)

With a Democrat Senate that won't convict.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:06 PM (sm6Pk)

Nah, without a true fraud miracle, the Senate will be R...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (exHjb)

240 Speaking of the global warming hoax this is pretty interesting. Stephen McIntyre was one of the fist to debunk the Michael Mann hockey stick bullshit way back when. One of his biggest complaints was that the proponents of the hockey stick theory were cherry picking the data they used to "prove" the theory and hiding the rest. He tried for years to get them to turn over the data and they always refused.

In 2014 the leader of the hockey team died and it seemed so did all the data. But it turns our his employer Columbia U, archived all the data and now it's available. And it demolishes the hockey stick theory which is why it has been hidden for decades.

Will the cult of global warming sanely review this material and admit that it was all a hoax? Of course not, they will ignore and deny. But normal people can now see the truth if they want real facts.

http://tinyurl.com/5y7973st

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (ZLI7S)

241 Rogue Trump Prosecutor ...

Steiner? He's finally coming?

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2023 04:04 PM (j4U/Z)

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"And hell's coming with him!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (9U9Km)

242 239 Nah, without a true fraud miracle, the Senate will be R...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (exHjb)

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2/3 of the Senate needs vote in favor of conviction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

243 Do keep saying, if you don't impeach Sundowner and his crime family who ever will be?

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 04:09 PM (fwDg9)

244 It increasingly seems that the more degenerate you are the better your chances of having a rewarding life. Power, sex, wealth, all that.
Posted by: And it's a very depressing thought at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (wtpA4)
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I think your causality might be backward.

The more successful you are, the more opportunities for degeneracy you have. If the club you're trying to join - politics, media elite, corporate power class, etc. - is degenerate, then degeneracy will be the price of admission.

I think it's essentially a mutual blackmail society. If you want to rise any higher than middle management (political equivalent) or you want to join the true power class within the corporate world, you *will* partake in the degeneracy. Then you have something on them and they have it on you. Balance of power is maintained through blackmail potential in all directions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zxP/x)

245 Or maybe you buy that grossly overpriced Hunter Biden painting, or that ten thousand dollar cabinet that sells for $200 at Home Depot, and when it's delivered you get a coupon to pick up a ten year-old Guatemalan boy at the bus depot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 04:06 PM (YdKh9)
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Ugh. I never even considered physical slavery through those venues.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zxP/x)

246 Hunter Biden procured a gun despite later acknowledging in his memoir, "Beautiful Things,"
__________________

This skidmark on the underpants of society has written a memoir? Srsly? Is he channeling his namesake, Hunter S. Thompson?

His memoir should have been called "Beautiful Things - The Colors, The Colors."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:09 PM (f+TLg)

247 242 239 Nah, without a true fraud miracle, the Senate will be R...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (exHjb)

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2/3 of the Senate needs vote in favor of conviction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

Yes, I know...and yet majority votes to convict are hard to ignore.

But it won't matter b/c with Trump on the ballot, the House will be D...so it goes nowhere with a Dem speaker.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (exHjb)

248 Thanks to rick223, Hunter Biden continues with his "Dark Hunter" legal strategy of suing his enemies and aggressively meritless filings to dismiss.

Knock it off, rick! We have enough problems with Hunter as it is.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (/HDaX)

249 And, there will be a true fraud miracle.

It will happen in the open. It will be bragged about. The Republican Party will do nothing. Trump will do nothing.

The fraud is happening, and there will be no legal recourse to it because the legal apparatus is in favor of it and the opposition has no legal weapons against it that the apparatus will recognize.

The only question is: what does the American people do afterwards?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

250 230 It increasingly seems that the more degenerate you are the better your chances of having a rewarding life. Power, sex, wealth, all that.
Posted by: And it's a very depressing thought at December 12, 2023 04:05 PM (wtpA4)

It's a bit more complicated than that and reverses the causality somewhat.

Plenty of degenerates dead in the streets from ODs. Unless you inherit wealth or win the lotto, you need some measure of virtue, usually diligence, to be successful.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (eYoxG)

251 244 I think your causality might be backward.

The more successful you are, the more opportunities for degeneracy you have. If the club you're trying to join - politics, media elite, corporate power class, etc. - is degenerate, then degeneracy will be the price of admission.

I think it's essentially a mutual blackmail society. If you want to rise any higher than middle management (political equivalent) or you want to join the true power class within the corporate world, you *will* partake in the degeneracy. Then you have something on them and they have it on you. Balance of power is maintained through blackmail potential in all directions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zxP/x)

Hordemind. (See 235)

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (sm6Pk)

252 You only believe this if you assume there won't be evidence of the fraud, just like there was evidence of the fraud in 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Every election has fraud. The "Kraken" level of fraud that Trump kept teasing with clowns like Sidney Powell turned out to be nothing.

Even if you want to firmly believe it was some much bigger level of fraud, why does nominating Trump make a difference? I legitimately think Trump gives more cover to fraud. Just look at Trump's legal effort, it was a complete joke. No court take it serious and the average voter just assumes a polarizing, unlikable figure lost an election.

Trump has also cried wolf so many times, it's just ignored now.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (wMRY8)

253 155 He may not be a Christian but he certainly does not tolerate pedophilia. Putin wins in a knockout vs Biden, Obama, Clinton....
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 03:48 PM (YoT4f)

I think Putin professes to be a Christian, Russian Orthodox, of course. That church has rebounded strongly under his rule, at any rate. Whether he is a true believer, or simply finds the church useful is open to debate, but at least he is not persecuting it like the Soviets did.
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Yes, I know. I've noticed one thing that makes me question the whole Ukraine narrative - every time the west punishes Russia, Russia ends up making more money.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 04:11 PM (ntk8v)

254 247 Yes, I know...and yet majority votes to convict are hard to ignore.

But it won't matter b/c with Trump on the ballot, the House will be D...so it goes nowhere with a Dem speaker.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (exHjb)

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Even though the precious polls (which are all bullshit) are saying that Trump is easily leading Biden?

Where does this assumption that was supposedly based in the "hard data" of cherry picking polling start referring to polls again?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

255 249 And, there will be a true fraud miracle.

It will happen in the open. It will be bragged about. The Republican Party will do nothing. Trump will do nothing.

The fraud is happening, and there will be no legal recourse to it because the legal apparatus is in favor of it and the opposition has no legal weapons against it that the apparatus will recognize.

The only question is: what does the American people do afterwards?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

With Trump on the ballot - nothing.
The only hope is a new candidate who has that experience, so then it's not all about Trump...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:11 PM (exHjb)

256 Remember when the Bush twins were caught drinking at 20 years old and the FNM told us THAT was grounds for impeaching Shrub?

No he didn't involve himself at all in covering up his kids' "crime" and he certainly didn't benefit from their actions himself.

But as the FNM claimed them, if the President can't even stop his own kids from breaking the law how can he be the chief executive?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2023 04:12 PM (XqcwY)

257 Johnson wouldn't even be bringing the Inquiry to a vote unless he had commitments to get it passed.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:12 PM (ZLI7S)

258 The other potential explanation for the weirdly overpriced goods or non-goods is money laundering (better for real goods that are just too expensive).

1. Buy something real but cheap - say, a $200 cabinet
2. List that real but cheap item on a common platform at an outlandish price
3. Buy it from yourself.

You can even actually ship it out. Real goods, real price - just a bad price. Probably better suited to complicated stuff that would make an auditor's eyes glaze over (industrial or electronic goods with complex names and descriptions) than furniture, but straight money laundering is another possibility.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:12 PM (zxP/x)

259 You don't get in the club if you won't do anything the rest of the club can blackmail you for.

It's how they make sure nobody rats.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (sm6Pk)

I think there's some truth to that. Like people who join p3do rings.

Posted by: Mutually assured destruction at December 12, 2023 04:13 PM (wtpA4)

260 Cold day here in Western NC. Got some cabbage soup simmering on the stove and will soon break out a shot or two of vodka. I guess that puts me on the side of the Russkies.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 12, 2023 04:13 PM (hEv4o)

261 Hordemind. (See 235)
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (sm6Pk)
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We're a cynical lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:13 PM (zxP/x)

262 In 2014 the leader of the hockey team died and it seemed so did all the data. But it turns our his employer Columbia U, archived all the data and now it's available. And it demolishes the hockey stick theory which is why it has been hidden for decades.

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Mark Steyn's lawyer's coffers hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (9U9Km)

263
The fraud is happening, and there will be no legal recourse to it because the legal apparatus is in favor of it and the opposition has no legal weapons against it that the apparatus will recognize.


Sue before the fraud = you haven't been harmed yet. Dismissed

Sue during the fraud = we have no control over the people counting the ballots. Dismissed

Sue after the fraud = we can't over turn a vote total no matter how fraudulent. Dismissed

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (XqcwY)

264 Sundowner isn't going to be the Democrat/ Marxist presidential candidate.
Still think at their convention they will pull a surprise candidate



Ah ah ah Mooooooch


Sorry sneezed

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (fwDg9)

265 Cold day here in Western NC. Got some cabbage soup simmering on the stove and will soon break out a shot or two of vodka. I guess that puts me on the side of the Russkies.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 12, 2023 04:13 PM (hEv4o)
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LOL.

Yeah, it sounds like you probably have a Russian passport...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (zxP/x)

266 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (N39Ws)

I'm glad that you have broken that cycle with your daughter, and I'm sorry that your father couldn't say that. Perhaps his father couldn't either. I am glad he can say it now that he loves you.

My father was gone (Disappeared in Candian woods when I was nine and they searched and never found his body ) so it took me a while when I was a believer to relate to some of the idea of God as Father.)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (RSbhh)

267 Even though the precious polls (which are all bullshit) are saying that Trump is easily leading Biden?

Where does this assumption that was supposedly based in the "hard data" of cherry picking polling start referring to polls again?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

I don't believe any polls right now. I believe R primary votes when they actually happen. It's why I'm not yet convinced who the winner is. Lots of non-hard Rs who show up to vote in R contests - lots of young, lots of women, lots of NE states and West Coast states...

After the AZ 11 pt debacle where we lost...I only believe the media puts out polls to shape behavior...which is again working...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (exHjb)

268 I think it's essentially a mutual blackmail society. If you want to rise any higher than middle management (political equivalent) or you want to join the true power class within the corporate world, you *will* partake in the degeneracy. Then you have something on them and they have it on you. Balance of power is maintained through blackmail potential in all directions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zxP/x)

This is true. Have seen it several times with people I've known.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (BdMk6)

269 Get a piece of history!

http://tinyurl.com/mwme2hwb

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (ot51Z)

270 >>Trump has also cried wolf so many times, it's just ignored now.

Not by you. You can't stop obsessing about Trump for a single day.

And yes, there was a huge amount of voter fraud but you don't bother to even look.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (ZLI7S)

271 Cold day here in Western NC. Got some cabbage soup simmering on the stove and will soon break out a shot or two of vodka. I guess that puts me on the side of the Russkies.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 12, 2023 04:13 PM (hEv4o)
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Western NC is jaw-dropping beautiful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (zxP/x)

272 252 Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:10 PM (wMRY

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I suppose it would be unfair to assume that you can remember everyone's specific positions, but here's mine:

I'm a DeSantis voter. I know DeSantis is going to flame out in the primary, and Trump is going to easily win the primary. It's just going to happen. We're just over a month from the Iowa caucuses, and Trump is 40-50 points above his competition. The primary is over, and it's time to deal with it.

It's also true that Katie Hobbes, the woman who's office broke the law in AZ to turn off signature verification in the last AZ race (which she miraculously won for some reason) is governor now. What incentive does she have to follow the law in AZ? What about in PA? or MI? Or MN? Or any other blue-purple state where mail in fraud has been codified as okey-dokey?

I'm not a Trump voter right now. He doesn't have a plan to fight the fraud, but then again, neither does anyone else. Who has a plan? Please, tell me. I'll vote for that candidate, even though Trump is going to easily win the primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

273 This isn't the worst cold I've ever had, but it may be the most tenacious. Very annoying.

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (MvF+J)

274 Only in this world. Also, these people are often *very* unhappy despite all their riches, power, and fame.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2023 04:07 PM (7fElN)
________________

Their psychological issues are what drives them to riches, power, and fame, much like Hollywood actors. They're scratching where it doesn't itch. Many of the high-fliers in academia are the same.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (f+TLg)

275 the other potential explanation for the weirdly overpriced goods or non-goods is money laundering (better for real goods that are just too expensive).

My understanding is that a good deal of Nat Sec operations are funded this way.

The DoD really did get a $2 hammer. But the other $9998 bought equipment for an operative or a kid for an oligarch or whatever the Nat Sec state needs at the moment.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (XqcwY)

276 Ah ah ah Mooooooch


Sorry sneezed
Posted by: Skip

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at December 12, 2023 04:16 PM (T4tVD)

277 @206

>>Our candidates looked a lot more diverse than the crusty old men the dems had up on the debate stage before Biden was put in office.

We have a WOP, two Dots an Angry Fat Man and a Magnificent Orange Bastard waiting in the wings.

TOP THAT DONKS!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2023 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

278 Gojira Minus One:

Just saw it.
Good flick.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 12, 2023 04:17 PM (l/pGH)

279 We know there were 17K fake votes/ballots in one single county in GA, a state won by Biden by 13K or so.

I'm beginning to suspect the Sydney Powell silliness was a setup similar to the 6th so that people could easily point to it and say KRAKEN SAID PUSSY!!!

Trump won in a landslide.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:17 PM (6Y/Rl)

280 We have a WOP, two Dots an Angry Fat Man and a Magnificent Orange Bastard waiting in the wings.

TOP THAT DONKS!!!!
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How about a female wookie?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (ntk8v)

281 My understanding is that a good deal of Nat Sec operations are funded this way.

The DoD really did get a $2 hammer. But the other $9998 bought equipment for an operative or a kid for an oligarch or whatever the Nat Sec state needs at the moment.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (XqcwY)
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It wouldn't surprise me. It's a fairly good system. If you need to obscure the source of funds, you buy from yourself but hide the connection between seller and buyer. If you need to obscure the destination of funds, you sell to yourself but hide the connection between buyer and seller.

It would not surprise me if the vast majority of oddly mispriced (as in too expensive) goods online are money laundering. It's also very hard to detect because there are lots of ways to describe something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (zxP/x)

282 "Drama in the Turkish Parliament today.

The MP Hasan Bismet spoke out strongly against Israel, and shouted about Israeli suffering the "wrath of Allah".

Seconds later, he had a heart attack."
Posted on X by
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (exHjb)

283 My favorite part of the whole gun escapades with Huntet: the very same people claiming Hunter is being unjustly persecuted would turn right around and demand jail time for Joe Sixpack for the same offense.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (tT6L1)

284 It would almost be worth it if Hunter walks because the SC decided Form 4473's were unconstutional. That'd be a hell of a Biden legacy.

Posted by: No one at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (CQ3Qb)

285 How about a female wookie?
Posted by: Pudinhead at

"Female". FIFY

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (ot51Z)

286 Even though the precious polls (which are all bullshit) are saying that Trump is easily leading Biden?

Where does this assumption that was supposedly based in the "hard data" of cherry picking polling start referring to polls again?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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How many times have people like you (and others) said the polls are weaponized by the media and are usually trying to shape a narrative?

If we're going to think that (and I do) then not a big leap to say the Dems know Trump is weak and want us to nominate him again because it's their only chance at survival. So they get the polls to say that. I also think they just want Biden gone.

Even if you don't want to believe the polls, Trump is more background noise right now. Trump as an idea does way better than Trump the actual candidate. And we're in the margin of error, it's hardly some commanding position.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (wMRY8)

287 XTC--This is response to a comment you made on a previous thread about how you could never please God because your father was never satisfied

Grew up that way too. Neither parents ever satisfied. If I made a mistake, or failed to anticipate their hidden expectations, or didn't instantly display perfect mastery of a never-before-attempted activity, I was an existential failure. It's a really horrible way to be raised with lifelong destructive effects.

Posted by: Kids are resilient. Beat, demean, and terrorize them. Especially yours. at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (wtpA4)

288 Winning ?

"White House open to new border expulsion law, mandatory detention and increased deportations in talks with Congress.

Washington — The Biden administration on Tuesday indicated to congressional lawmakers that it would be willing to support a new border authority to expel migrants without asylum screenings, as well as a dramatic expansion of immigration detention and deportations, to convince Republicans to back aid to Ukraine, four people familiar with the matter told CBS News.

The White House informed Senate Democrats that it could back those sweeping and hardline immigration policy changes as part of the negotiations over President Biden's emergency funding request, a roughly $100 billion package that includes military aid to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine, as well as money to bolster border enforcement and hire additional immigration officials. "

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (V13WU)

289 Gojira/Trump 2024

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (ZsBko)

290 Biden gets the 4473 rejected at the same time every citizen is a gun dealer requiring an ATF license to sell a firearm.

You've heard that's the plan, right?

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (6Y/Rl)

291 284, LOL, that would be hilarious!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (zer5o)

292 I think Powell was a plant. At the very beginning I asked the legal minds here their thoughts and everyone said she was the best thing ever. I was hearing other things in my circle. I think she was a total plant.

Posted by: nckate at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (SnxUt)

293 Here is the Dem game plan for 2024:

1. Get Biden impeached and convicted - removing him from the equation.
2. This allows them to run a LaughingGirl/Fetterman ticket and cheat their way to a victory by counting 100 million fake ballots - all cast for the Dem ticket and cast in the same four Dem cities that allowed them to "win" in 2020.
3. Even if we ran a Jesus/Moses ticket we'd still lose to the cheat, but the fact that it will be Trump/Carlson will allow the brain dead Never Trumpers here, and elsewhere, to claim it was his fault we lost in 20 and 24.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (CecP5)

294 286 Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (wMRY

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So, the polls before were proof that Trump was weak, but the polls now are proof that the media is trying to push out Biden by putting their fingers on the scales?

I just call them bullshit all the time. You just call them bullshit when they don't say what you want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

295 I will pray for Speaker Mike Johnson. May St Michael the Archangel defend him.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (vHIgi)

296 How about a female wookie?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (ntk8v)

Now we're back to fuzz box.

Posted by: Full Circle Callbacks at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (wtpA4)

297 Western NC is jaw-dropping beautiful.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:14 PM (zxP/x)

Yes, and where I live is still sane.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 12, 2023 04:21 PM (hEv4o)

298 So a male cyclist wins the Women's Nationals.
I hope second, third, and especially fourth place finishers kick her in the balls.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2023 04:21 PM (W/lyH)

299 I'm not a Trump voter right now. He doesn't have a plan to fight the fraud, but then again, neither does anyone else. Who has a plan? Please, tell me. I'll vote for that candidate, even though Trump is going to easily win the primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

If you actually had a plan to stop the fraud, why would you disclose it, and give the perpetrators of the fraud an opportunity defeat your plan? Why would you even let on that you had a plan?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YdKh9)

300 @279

>>I'm beginning to suspect the Sydney Powell silliness was a setup similar to the 6th so that people could easily point to it and say KRAKEN SAID PUSSY!!!

Yeah, I don't think the chick that got General Flynn off was somehow part of a setup.

The LE/IC/Deep State were and are running so many Ops in this country that it beggars the imagination.

I think it was simply throwing as much out there to muddy the waters, it got people on our side to bite and it was off to the races.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (XV/Pl)

301 The other potential explanation for the weirdly overpriced goods or non-goods is money laundering (better for real goods that are just too expensive).

1. Buy something real but cheap - say, a $200 cabinet
2. List that real but cheap item on a common platform at an outlandish price
3. Buy it from yourself.

You can even actually ship it out. Real goods, real price - just a bad price. Probably better suited to complicated stuff that would make an auditor's eyes glaze over (industrial or electronic goods with complex names and descriptions) than furniture, but straight money laundering is another possibility.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:12 PM (zxP/x)
________________

The wife of a buddy of mine has an obsession with buying "knick-knacks" and filling the house with them. He couldn't throw out any of them, but he did get her agree to a yard sale, where he put a bunch of them out.

Then he gave a buddy of his a bunch of money, which the buddy used to buy the knick-knacks, who then threw them away and returned the money to the first guy.

Genius!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (f+TLg)

302
The fraud is happening, and there will be no legal recourse to it because the legal apparatus is in favor of it and the opposition has no legal weapons against it that the apparatus will recognize.

The only question is: what does the American people do afterwards?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


I'm going to Wally Land!

Posted by: Jose Public at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (63Dwl)

303 So a male cyclist wins the Women's Nationals.
I hope second, third, and especially fourth place finishers kick her in the balls.
Posted by: Diogenes

Second was also a dude third was very happy to race against them cause they made it "interesting". Why yes she is a muff muncher. Why do you ask?

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (ot51Z)

304 So, the polls before were proof that Trump was weak, but the polls now are proof that the media is trying to push out Biden by putting their fingers on the scales?

I just call them bullshit all the time. You just call them bullshit when they don't say what you want.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Nah, the Biden polls are also bogus. The proof the media are trying to push Biden out is the media sea change in coverage, especially related to inflation and age. Although, you'll notice it's a fight even in the media b/c half the liberal media (Bezos's people in DC) are sticking with Biden while it's CBS and others going hard at him...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (exHjb)

305 In other news, a Virginia woman was recently sentenced to 21 months in prison for using drugs while in possession of a gun, and lying about drug use on a gun application.

So there's that...

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (xsrxA)

306 287 Grew up that way too. Neither parents ever satisfied. If I made a mistake, or failed to anticipate their hidden expectations, or didn't instantly display perfect mastery of a never-before-attempted activity, I was an existential failure. It's a really horrible way to be raised with lifelong destructive effects.
Posted by: Kids are resilient. Beat, demean, and terrorize them. Especially yours. at December 12, 2023 04:19 PM (wtpA4)

It's supposed to make you a tough hardass who can take it and give it back twice as hard.

But that doesn't always work. Even if it should always work, because we need people to be hardasses.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (sm6Pk)

307 >>How many times have people like you (and others) said the polls are weaponized by the media and are usually trying to shape a narrative?

Rich Baris aka Peoples Pundit, is not one of the media polls. He's independent and on the right. He's also been very accurate over the last few years with his polls. And he hates Biden.

He has Trump up over DeSantis by 40 points. In Florida. Where DeSantis has lived his entire life and is currently the governor.

Biden has sent his corrupt DOJ after Trump over and over and they have been coordinating with Dems in GA and NY for state charges. Are you saying that trying to toss Trump in prison is some secret plot to actually get him the nomination?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (ZLI7S)

308 Then you have something on them and they have it on you. Balance of power is maintained through blackmail potential in all directions.

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* Henry Kissinger and his European foreign policy ideology have entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (9U9Km)

309 The wife of a buddy of mine has an obsession with buying "knick-knacks" and filling the house with them. He couldn't throw out any of them, but he did get her agree to a yard sale, where he put a bunch of them out.

Then he gave a buddy of his a bunch of money, which the buddy used to buy the knick-knacks, who then threw them away and returned the money to the first guy.

Genius!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (f+TLg)
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LOL. If there was ever a case of money laundering that no reasonable (actually reasonable) prosecutor would ever touch, this is it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (zxP/x)

310
Trump wins in a historic landslide when the 3rd party candidates splinter the left and middle into a thousand pieces.

You read it here first. But there's still time for the left to do something. But all the players on the left are so dirty with corruption it may take a while to figure out who is gonna go down and take the fall. Right now no one seems to be volunteering. It may stay that way to the end.

Things *will* have to change.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (enJYY)

311 God always gets the last laugh

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (fwDg9)

312 303 So a male cyclist wins the Women's Nationals.
I hope second, third, and especially fourth place finishers kick her in the balls.
Posted by: Diogenes

Second was also a dude third was very happy to race against them cause they made it "interesting". Why yes she is a muff muncher. Why do you ask?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (ot51Z)

What about cyclists with balls?

Posted by: Lance Armstrong at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (wtpA4)

313
I'm not a Trump voter right now. He doesn't have a plan to fight the fraud, but then again, neither does anyone else. Who has a plan? Please, tell me. I'll vote for that candidate, even though Trump is going to easily win the primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I'm not trying to convince you to vote DeSantis or anyone else. I may be confusing with someone else, but didn't you say you didn't vote for Trump in the 2016 election? That you instead voted libertarian?

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (wMRY8)

314 Blago is very vocal about opposition to Trump.

However, I have yet to see *ANY* persuasive evidence from anyone here FOR a particular candidate that will beat Trump in the primary or Biden in the general election.

Until someone can lay out a credible, plausible case for that candidate, might as well get used to the idea that it's going to be Biden v. Trump round 2 in 2024.

Anything else is just mental masturbation.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2023 04:24 PM (7fElN)

315 If you actually had a plan to stop the fraud, why would you disclose it, and give the perpetrators of the fraud an opportunity defeat your plan? Why would you even let on that you had a plan?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YdKh9)
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Thank you. It's the obvious point.

"By the way, round eye, we have a plan to knock out your naval power in the Pacific in early December, but don't tell anybody."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:24 PM (f+TLg)

316 Ace, if you were a standup comedian, you'd need guards wearing spikey suits like punks from Fallout3.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 12, 2023 04:24 PM (raJHR)

317 >>I'm beginning to suspect the Sydney Powell silliness was a setup similar to the 6th so that people could easily point to it and say KRAKEN SAID PUSSY!!!

Yeah, I don't think the chick that got General Flynn off was somehow part of a setup.

The LE/IC/Deep State were and are running so many Ops in this country that it beggars the imagination.

I think it was simply throwing as much out there to muddy the waters, it got people on our side to bite and it was off to the races.

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I don't mean I think Powell was a Pence. I mean I think she was goaded into shaking a fence, and they wen't after her. (I think your second paragraph is similar)

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:24 PM (6Y/Rl)

318 From Ian Miles Cheong's X timeline, a "caption this":

https://nitter.net/stillgray/status/
1734649587615568319#m

I'd submit "Mitch, Chuck, you were magnificent! [zips fly]"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 12, 2023 04:24 PM (/HDaX)

319 "He's independent and on the right."

That does not compute. Has to be one or the other.

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:25 PM (MvF+J)

320 299 If you actually had a plan to stop the fraud, why would you disclose it, and give the perpetrators of the fraud an opportunity defeat your plan? Why would you even let on that you had a plan?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YdKh9)

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Trump is the closest, it seems, by announcing support for ballot harvesting.

It won't be enough, but he's said something, at least.

A private plan to completely undo a multi-faceted effort across half a dozen states and supported by the law enforcement apparatus of those states would be great. Seems like a Mission Impossible, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

321 @299

>>If you actually had a plan to stop the fraud, why would you disclose it, and give the perpetrators of the fraud an opportunity defeat your plan? Why would you even let on that you had a plan?

There is really no way ahead of time to stop any of this.

I'm in PA now, they are going to mass mail out millions of ballots, the people rigging the system also control the system at the molecular level and there is no outside force that can make sure the game is legit.

They are simply going to conjure the requisite number of ballots to put The Meat Puppet ahead.

There is a reason the second the Donks get control they start monkeying around with voting, it's because, he who controls the voting systems, controls the votes and voting.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2023 04:25 PM (XV/Pl)

322 " I think Powell was a plant. "

imo she had the "goods", but it was complicated and needed a lot more work to put in a form ready for courts.

I think she still has some cases going? As does Mike Lindell? idk why Trump dumped her early, or what the problem was. There was definitely statistical evidence that made (massive) fraud apparent. Also evidence that laws were broken to change voting process.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2023 04:26 PM (Cus5s)

323 313 Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (wMRY

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I did. I voted Gary Johnson in 2016. And then I voted Trump in 2020.

What's your point?

If you're here just shitting on Trump without any effort to try and get Republican primary voters to vote for another candidate, then what's your point? What, would you say, you do here?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

324 >>That does not compute. Has to be one or the other.

Independent doesn't just mean politically. It means he is unaffiliated with the media as many pollsters are.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:26 PM (ZLI7S)

325 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

I hear ya. I'm a PDTS voter. I'd crawl across broken glass to pull the lever for that guy. Did he fuck some stuff up? Yes. Putting his faith and confidence in people who were clearly there to operate against him, because someone recommended them and failing to shit can them after it became obvious. Sessions, Wray, Fauci, I could go on. He needs to own that.

Despite that, aside from Eisenhower and Reagan he's the only President in my lifetime who cared about this country. All the other wannabes just give it lip service.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 12, 2023 04:26 PM (YRsIm)

326 Biden has sent his corrupt DOJ after Trump over and over and they have been coordinating with Dems in GA and NY for state charges. Are you saying that trying to toss Trump in prison is some secret plot to actually get him the nomination?
Posted by: JackStraw
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Yes, make him a martyr. It works because our side is stupid. Had no charges been filed against Trump, he would be flailing right now.

Right after the 2022 midterms, Trump was losing to people like DeSantis by 20 points, then Dems started filing charges anywhere and everywhere and suddenly people rallied around him.

Problem is, the people that rallied around him aren't the people he needs to convince.

I'm not shilling for DeSantis, I'd prefer DeSantis, but as of now, it will probably be Trump and he'll lose (again) Biden. And teh same sad people will say it was all fraud when it was really a terrible candidate that blew a lay up election.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (wMRY8)

327 Guess that Turkish guy was as serious as a heart attack.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (ZsBko)

328 314 Until someone can lay out a credible, plausible case for that candidate, might as well get used to the idea that it's going to be Biden v. Trump round 2 in 2024.

Anything else is just mental masturbation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2023 04:24 PM (7fElN)

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Nikki Haley has some polls!

We should vote for Nikki Haley!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

329 321 There is a reason the second the Donks get control they start monkeying around with voting, it's because, he who controls the voting systems, controls the votes and voting.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2023 04:25 PM (XV/Pl)

The George Soros "Secretary of State Program" in action.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (sm6Pk)

330 We know there were 17K fake votes/ballots in one single county in GA, a state won by Biden by 13K or so.

10K voters 120 years old or older in WI.

Note there are 0 people 120 years or older alive in the US right now

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (XqcwY)

331 Second was also a dude third was very happy to race against them cause they made it "interesting". Why yes she is a muff muncher. Why do you ask?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (ot51Z)


So...Second has gonads too. I missed that. And third liked the ladies.
Shit. Bike people...not one dime. Not one fu*king dime.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (W/lyH)

332 It's supposed to make you a tough hardass who can take it and give it back twice as hard.

But that doesn't always work. Even if it should always work, because we need people to be hardasses.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:23 PM (sm6Pk)

It almost never works unless you want your kid to become paralyzingly neurotic or some form of psychopath.

Posted by: People suck. Can't be helped. at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (wtpA4)

333 326 Right after the 2022 midterms, Trump was losing to people like DeSantis by 20 points, then Dems started filing charges anywhere and everywhere and suddenly people rallied around him.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (wMRY

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Wait...so those polls were true and accurate?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

334 327 Guess that Turkish guy was as serious as a heart attack.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (ZsBko)

You f*** with The Father's Chosen, you get Smote.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:28 PM (sm6Pk)

335 Blago is very vocal about opposition to Trump.

However, I have yet to see *ANY* persuasive evidence from anyone here FOR a particular candidate that will beat Trump in the primary or Biden in the general election.
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I'm for Trump for one simple reason: he's the only one who's gnarly enough to kick the Deep State in the balls instead of playing pat-a-cake with them. Yeah, they'll try to hamstring him, but he may have thought of a way of getting around that this time. He's a pretty sharp guy. After all, he snookered China, our deadbeat NATO "allies," Mexico, ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:28 PM (f+TLg)

336 tales from Qatar : "Several Hamas leaders left Qatar for an unknown destination, turning off their phones and not accepting calls, KAN's Arabic language channel reported citing sources in Doha on Tuesday evening.
Additionally, on Tuesday, KAN news reported that Saleh al-Arouri, a senior member of Hamas, left his usual residence in Beirut for Turkey."

"Salam. This is Ismail Haniyeh's phone. I am not home. Please leave message. "

look, over there !

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2023 04:29 PM (V13WU)

337 332 It almost never works unless you want your kid to become paralyzingly neurotic or some form of psychopath.
Posted by: People suck. Can't be helped. at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (wtpA4)

Well, I'm paralyzingly neurotic, so you can guess how it worked on me.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:29 PM (sm6Pk)

338 *look over there - Tehran

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2023 04:29 PM (V13WU)

339
>>Yes, make him a martyr. It works because our side is stupid. Had no charges been filed against Trump, he would be flailing right now.

The only one flailing is you. You've been saying Trump was going to lose for a year now and he keeps getting stronger. These theories about how the left is secretly boosting Trump are silly. They are terrified of facing him because they know they can't beat him.

The man got 75 million legal votes, most of any sitting president in history including the Mocha Messiah. The race for the nomination was over before it started.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:30 PM (ZLI7S)

340 It would almost be worth it if Hunter walks because the SC decided Form 4473's were unconstutional. That'd be a hell of a Biden legacy.
Posted by: No one at December 12, 2023 04:18 PM (CQ3Qb)

Only for the elite. It would still be unquestionably Constitutional and rigorously enforced for the commoners.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2023 04:30 PM (BdMk6)

341 I did. I voted Gary Johnson in 2016. And then I voted Trump in 2020.

What's your point?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That clearly not every Republican is on board with Trump.

I voted for him twice, so I have paid my dues.

Like Ace has said, you're going to see like 15% of Republicans defect (just like you did) and it will have nothing to do with fraud.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:30 PM (wMRY8)

342 So now we know what's most important to Joe Biden: Totally open borders or sweet Ukraine corruption money.

He's taking the money.

Posted by: WisRich at December 12, 2023 04:30 PM (G0vdT)

343 "I'm for Trump for one simple reason"

I'll never vote Dem, that's fer damn sure.

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:30 PM (MvF+J)

344 DJT is the only one who even remotely will go into the temple and turn over the money changers tables

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 04:31 PM (fwDg9)

345 @333

>>Wait...so those polls were true and accurate?

There was never any credible pole where Trump was losing to DeSantis or anyone else.

Some people just live in a fantasy world of their own making.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2023 04:31 PM (XV/Pl)

346 You think 15% is bad? Just wait until you see the turnout of women for Roe V Wade!

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:31 PM (6Y/Rl)

347 I hear ya. I'm a PDTS voter. I'd crawl across broken glass to pull the lever for that guy. Did he fuck some stuff up? Yes. Putting his faith and confidence in people who were clearly there to operate against him, because someone recommended them and failing to shit can them after it became obvious. Sessions, Wray, Fauci, I could go on. He needs to own that.

Despite that, aside from Eisenhower and Reagan he's the only President in my lifetime who cared about this country. All the other wannabes just give it lip service.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 12, 2023 04:26 PM (YRsIm)
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My man.

Trump is so imperfect - but he's the best we've got. He's our Andrew Jackson.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:31 PM (f+TLg)

348 The wife of a buddy of mine has an obsession with buying "knick-knacks" and filling the house with them. He couldn't throw out any of them, but he did get her agree to a yard sale, where he put a bunch of them out.

Then he gave a buddy of his a bunch of money, which the buddy used to buy the knick-knacks, who then threw them away and returned the money to the first guy.

Genius!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:22 PM (f+TLg)

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And they say collusion is a bad thing.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:31 PM (9U9Km)

349 Republicans will belie him, he will get 100B$, and then won't do jack 'bout the border.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (V13WU)

350 I'm for Trump for one simple reason: he's the only one who's gnarly enough to kick the Deep State in the balls instead of playing pat-a-cake with them. Yeah, they'll try to hamstring him, but he may have thought of a way of getting around that this time. He's a pretty sharp guy. After all, he snookered China, our deadbeat NATO "allies," Mexico, ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:28 PM (f+TLg)

I disagree. I think DeSantis is the only one who will and can do it b/c he's not toxic to the R party structure and Govs, so he'll have resources to deploy to make changes.

I see DeSantis as a more alpha Mike Johnson. Not much charisma, but well spoken and committed to helping our cause as much as he can.

You just don't understand how Trump will not be able to lobby anyone but family and friends to work for him. Even those who agree with him buried in fed gov will not step up to get prosecuted and fired once Trump's gone in 4 years, if not sooner.

He barely got enough people the 1st time...and he didn't protect them or pay for their legal troubles. It's too bankrupting to normal people (which is what our side is made up of)...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (exHjb)

351 341 That clearly not every Republican is on board with Trump.

I voted for him twice, so I have paid my dues.

Like Ace has said, you're going to see like 15% of Republicans defect (just like you did) and it will have nothing to do with fraud.
Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:30 PM (wMRY

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Using me as a model is...weird.

I voted 3rd party when he was just an agent of chaos. I voted for him after he'd been president. His presidency increased my support.

If you want anecdotes as data, take that one and include it in your dataset.

And if 15% of the GOP ends up sitting out or voting Biden because Trump is icky (even though you're not here to get anyone to vote for anyone else...?), then the GOP deserves 4 more years of Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

352 *believe him

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (V13WU)

353 He should have taken the canoli.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (ZsBko)

354 Trump was losing to people like DeSantis by 20 points, then Dems started filing charges anywhere and everywhere and suddenly people rallied around him.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:27 PM (wMRY)

I don't remember any poll that showed Trump losing by anything near that to DeSantis or anyone else.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (gSZYf)

355 The only one flailing is you. You've been saying Trump was going to lose for a year now and he keeps getting stronger. These theories about how the left is secretly boosting Trump are silly. They are terrified of facing him because they know they can't beat him.

The man got 75 million legal votes, most of any sitting president in history including the Mocha Messiah. The race for the nomination was over before it started.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I've said Trump is going to lose the general, why dont we make a bet that if he's not President in 2024, the loser leaves the board and never come back if you're so confident?

It's not like you've veer been right in the past on anything before when it comes to political predictions.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (wMRY8)

356 DJT is the only one who even remotely will go into the temple and turn over the money changers tables
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2023 04:31 PM (fwDg9)
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Exactly. And he'll be a lame duck from day one, so when he takes office, it's on. Oh yes, it's SO on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:33 PM (f+TLg)

357 354 I don't remember any poll that showed Trump losing by anything near that to DeSantis or anyone else.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (gSZYf)

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Shh...

Blago's numbers are ironclad and never influenced by bias from anyone. He polled his family. He had to shout at them to get them to answer, but he got his results.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

358 Using me as a model is...weird.

I voted 3rd party when he was just an agent of chaos. I voted for him after he'd been president. His presidency increased my support.

If you want anecdotes as data, take that one and include it in your dataset.

And if 15% of the GOP ends up sitting out or voting Biden because Trump is icky (even though you're not here to get anyone to vote for anyone else...?), then the GOP deserves 4 more years of Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

On using you as a model, Trump did have weaker support with traditional Republicans in 2016, but they all came back in 2020. (personally I didn't vote at all in 2016 since he seemed a very ambiguous and possibly liberal candidate)

I don't see much reason to expect weak in-party support in 2024.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 12, 2023 04:34 PM (eYoxG)

359 I see DeSantis as a more alpha Mike Johnson. Not much charisma, but well spoken and committed to helping our cause as much as he can.

You just don't understand how Trump will not be able to lobby anyone but family and friends to work for him. Even those who agree with him buried in fed gov will not step up to get prosecuted and fired once Trump's gone in 4 years, if not sooner.

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DeSantis is great in Florida when surrounded with Floridians and people in Florida and State of Florida government to support him.

I still can't understand how DeSantis gets to D.C. and doesn't experience the exact same thing Trump did.

That's a big part of the problem. Seems like something that would've been discussed at one of the four debates, but oh well.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:34 PM (6Y/Rl)

360 "I see DeSantis as a more alpha Mike Johnson."

I got nothing against RdS, but that's the first time I've heard him described as an alpha.

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:35 PM (MvF+J)

361 Nude NOOD

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2023 04:35 PM (N3zMI)

362 I disagree. I think DeSantis is the only one who will and can do it b/c he's not toxic to the R party structure and Govs, so he'll have resources to deploy to make changes.
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I like DeSantis, but I think the Reds would eat him alive as President.

Ideally I'd like to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket, if they can kiss and make up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:35 PM (f+TLg)

363 nood

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:35 PM (MvF+J)

364 Not to mention the record support from blacks, hispanics, union workers, etc.

Nikki Haley ain't getting that. I hate to say it, but Ron DeSantis ain't either.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:36 PM (6Y/Rl)

365 362 I like DeSantis, but I think the Reds would eat him alive as President.

Ideally I'd like to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket, if they can kiss and make up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:35 PM (f+TLg)

It would be a sign of Weakness for Trump to let the Meatball back in.

Unless there was a lot of Kamala-esque dick-sucking and undergoing personal humiliation on Meatball's part.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:36 PM (sm6Pk)

366 DeSantis is great in Florida when surrounded with Floridians and people in Florida and State of Florida government to support him.

I still can't understand how DeSantis gets to D.C. and doesn't experience the exact same thing Trump did.

That's a big part of the problem. Seems like something that would've been discussed at one of the four debates, but oh well.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 12, 2023 04:34 PM (6Y/Rl)
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Imagine what Trump would have accomplished if he had had Congress and the bureaucracy behind him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:37 PM (f+TLg)

367 I don't remember any poll that showed Trump losing by anything near that to DeSantis or anyone else.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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USA Today poll

http://tinyurl.com/es4ftrzr

"They have a name in mind: Two-thirds of Republicans and those inclined to vote Republican want Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to run for president. By double digits, 56% to 33%, they prefer DeSantis over Trump.
"

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:37 PM (wMRY8)

368 >>I've said Trump is going to lose the general, why dont we make a bet that if he's not President in 2024, the loser leaves the board and never come back if you're so confident?

It all depends on overcoming the cheating which you and seemingly only you think doesn't exist. There is no way in hell that Joe Biden beats Trump in a fair election. He didn't in 2020 and now with his record of failure on every single issue he isn't going to do in in 2024.

And it is beyond moronic to think that Ron, who is in a dead heat with Haley, would ever generate the kind of support from the base that Trump is and nobody wins without the base.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:37 PM (ZLI7S)

369 367 Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:37 PM (wMRY

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So, which is that? Honest poll or poll to craft a narrative?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

370 There's another consideration here too: the economy is expected to go into recession next year, to the extent it isn't in one now. That recession will be hanged around Biden's neck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:39 PM (f+TLg)

371 "the loser leaves the board and never come back"

I've done that a dozen times.

Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:39 PM (MvF+J)

372 240 ...Stephen McIntyre was one of the fist to debunk the Michael Mann hockey stick bullshit way back when.

Yes but...The Inquirer, Mar 2022, "Mann, 56, who has been at Penn State for 16 years, will join the University of Pennsylvania, where he will lead the new Penn Center for Science, Sustainability and the Media, as well as serve as a presidential distinguished professor in the Department of Earth and Environmental Science."

And, PennToday, upenn.edu, Mar 2023 "Climate scientist Michael Mann makes a home at Penn. Known for his ‘hockey stick’ graph that hammered home the dramatic rise of the warming climate, the climate scientist is now making his mark on Penn’s campus, both through his science and his work on communicating the urgent need for action on the climate crisis."

Steyn Online, 10/18: On Monday in the pre-trial hearing for Mann vs Steyn et al, Mark told the judge that not allowing Steve McIntyre or Ross McKittrick to testify re Michael E Mann's "hockey stick" would be tantamount to not allowing the detective who found the dead body to testify at a murder trial...

They're killing Steyn, slowly.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear, they only need to outrun us - for now at December 12, 2023 04:41 PM (GshMh)

373 371 "the loser leaves the board and never come back"

I've done that a dozen times.
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at December 12, 2023 04:39 PM (MvF+J)

How about "Loser has to let Mabe Galor ram him without lube"?

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2023 04:41 PM (sm6Pk)

374 Imagine what Trump would have accomplished if he had had Congress and the bureaucracy behind him.

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Ding ding ding

Which says a lot if they work with someone.

Spoilers - it's not helping America

Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Vfx2t)

375 t all depends on overcoming the cheating which you and seemingly only you think doesn't exist. There is no way in hell that Joe Biden beats Trump in a fair election. He didn't in 2020 and now with his record of failure on every single issue he isn't going to do in in 2024.

And it is beyond moronic to think that Ron, who is in a dead heat with Haley, would ever generate the kind of support from the base that Trump is and nobody wins without the base.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I see your already making excuses because you know Trump is toast. So I'll put you down as a "no" for putting your money where your mouth is.

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:42 PM (Ky30W)

376 So, which is that? Honest poll or poll to craft a narrative?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

So is that an apology for saying I make things up?

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:42 PM (Ky30W)

377 The pardon of Hunter is already tucked away in the safe of the lawyer in case Joe croaks. If you were Hunter wouldn't you have that already in the can?

Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at December 12, 2023 04:45 PM (shw70)

378 >>I see your already making excuses because you know Trump is toast. So I'll put you down as a "no" for putting your money where your mouth is.

I'll put you down as an idiot. Your boy Ron flamed out when you said he would beat Trump. He's going to lose to Haley.

He never should have entered the race and now he is going to lose his own state.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:46 PM (ZLI7S)

379 149 Where can I find a list of official horde positions?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (hCt6Y)


Two of them are "longbows" and ".45".

And boobs.

Posted by: BillyD at December 12, 2023 04:46 PM (F6Xpw)

380 Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:42 PM (Ky30W)

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No, you still make shit up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at December 12, 2023 04:47 PM (GBKbO)

381 And teh same sad people will say it was all fraud when it was really a terrible candidate that blew a lay up election.

Lets look at the clearest, indisputable, evidence of election fraud in 2020: Nationwide Trump got 16% of the black vote, except for the 4 cities that swung the election Atlanta, Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee, where he got essentially 0% of the black vote. This phenomenon occurred in no other cities in the country. That is a statistical impossibility. That isn't a conspiracy theory or a delusion. In fact you have to be either deluded or a GOPE RINO tard to ignore that evidence, which one are you?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 12, 2023 04:52 PM (CecP5)

382 There's another consideration here too: the economy is expected to go into recession next year, to the extent it isn't in one now. That recession will be hanged around Biden's neck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2023 04:39 PM (f+TLg)

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Don't know why The Junta doesn't merely cancel elections next year and criminalize the "opposition" party (a la Ukraine) using any phony pretext (e.g. "the Climate Catastrophy Crisis" or "a War on White Supremacy" -- aren't voting & government really social construct tools of the oppressor class?).

I mean, who's gonna stop them?

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:52 PM (MFEQp)

383 380 Give me one example

Posted by: Blago at December 12, 2023 04:53 PM (Ky30W)

384 Where can I find a list of official horde positions?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 12, 2023 03:51 PM (hCt6Y)

Two of them are "longbows" and ".45".

And boobs.
Posted by: BillyD at December 12, 2023 04:46 PM (F6Xpw)

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And okra-free gumbo.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 12, 2023 04:54 PM (MFEQp)

385 He never should have entered the race and now he is going to lose his own state.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2023 04:46 PM (ZLI7S)

Ronny D succeeded... in making himself a WEF heel. And losing precious momentum and strength for the conservatives in Florida ( speaking as a part time FL resident ).
Then again p*ssy rules the world and his sleeping partner saw an opening to the POTUS gig.
Or so she thought ...

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at December 12, 2023 05:05 PM (rfkgn)

386 I'm still buying AR parts and 80% lowers. I'm still doing the work in my garage and selling them for cost to close family and friends. I'm still eager for federal agents to personally swing by to chat about it.

Fucks given = None.

I'll die for my beliefs. What will your wife's boyfriend say about your willingness to die for a gibzmedat paycheck?

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at December 12, 2023 05:58 PM (zNwkm)

387 Retired attorney I learned, and often in disbelieve
, the more outrageous the claim the more judges gave it credence.

Posted by: Sanitybreak2 at December 12, 2023 06:22 PM (p3h9z)

388 "... Press charges against Hunter."

I'm hearing this blogsphere narrative repeated that MAGA is easily bamboozled.

Do the #NeverTrumpers and #MAGA haters think it would be any different if Kevin McCarthy was still Speaker?

Posted by: mossomo at December 13, 2023 09:49 AM (pky95)

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