Mike Johnson Gives Biden an Ultimatum: Either Protect the American Border Or No More Money for Ukraine

So I guess it's worth a "McLeavin'" taunt.

By the way, my screwed-up idea of when McCarthy was leaving had him leaving during the crucial post-election, pre-inauguration phase, which is why I kept saying we don't know why we might need a crucial one-member advantage. I really should have consulted a calendar to double check the year we were in. Hey, I was sick and my brain wasn't working so good.*

There will be no additional funding for Ukraine without first making extensive reforms to the U.S. immigration system, House Speaker Mike Johnson told President Biden.
Johnson issued the ultimatum in a Tuesday letter to the White House. Biden and Democrats had pushed for months to provide additional funding for Ukraine's war effort amid dwindling Republican support for the issue. With immigration being an even more divisive issue for Congress, Johnson's declaration is a major blow to the prospect of further aid to Kyiv.
Johnson's letter says Ukraine aid is "dependent upon enactment of transformative change to our nation's border security laws."
The message came in response to a Monday letter from the White House. Penned by Office of Management and Budget Director Shalanda Young, it warned that the U.S. would run out of Ukraine aid funding by the end of 2023.
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The U.S. has already contributed well over $100 billion to Ukraine's war effort since Russia invaded the country in February 2022. Republicans have increasingly questioned why that money isn't being spent at home, however.
Johnson first announced plans to pair Ukraine funding and immigration funding into the same bill in early November.
"The American people feel very strongly about this, and I do as well. We have things that we can and should do around the world, but we have to take care of our own house first," Johnson said at the time. "As long as the border is wide open, we're opening ourselves up for great threats. And again, it's just a matter of principle that if we're going to take care of a border in Ukraine, we need to take care of America's as well. And I think there's bipartisan support for that idea."

If Ukraine is this critical to our security, then surely it's worth Biden actually protecting the southern border and deporting illegal aliens, isn't it?

If it's not as important as that, then I don't want to spend another nickel on it, and Russia is welcome to take the whole fucking corrupt Biden-bribing country.

"Tempers flared" during the meeting.

Tempers boiled over during a classified Senate briefing on Ukraine on Tuesday afternoon, when Republican senators insisted on talking about security along the U.S.-Mexico border while Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and military officials tried to keep the discussion focused on the war.
Schumer accused Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) of attempting to hijack the meeting on Ukraine's defense needs to have an unrelated conversation on border security.
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The discussion got so heated that, at one point, Sens. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) were shouting questions at the senior Biden administration officials in the room, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Charles Q. Brown Jr.
"I took them on with the microphone in my hand," Cramer later told reporters after the heated discussion.
"I asked Gen. Brown his best military advice. Is supporting Ukraine and Israel important enough that Democrats could at least consider reluctantly supporting some southern border security? He wanted to talk about Ukraine," he said.
Ukrainian, European officials descend on Capitol Hill to press for funding
Cramer said Schumer went "nuts" when he insisted that the general convince Democrats that the war in Ukraine is a vital enough national security interest to justify them making concessions on immigration and asylum reform.
Schumer accused his colleagues of acting disrespectfully toward senior military officials.
"One of them started -- was disrespectful -- and started screaming at one of the generals and challenging him why he didn't go to the border," Schumer said.
And he slammed McConnell for turning the briefing into a partisan food fight over immigration policy instead of a factual analysis of Ukraine's ability to hold off a Russian invasion without additional U.S. military aid.
"It was immediately hijacked by Leader McConnell. The first question -- instead of asking our panelists -- he called on Lankford to give a five-minute talk about the negotiations on the border, and that wasn't the purpose of the meeting at all," Schumer fumed. "And then when I brought up the idea that they could do an amendment and have the ability to get something done on [the] border, [Republican colleagues] got stuck."
Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.) said GOP senators were frustrated that the briefing was not more focused on the national security threat posed by the surge of migrants across the southern border.
"Of course we all want more information on border security, and that wasn't a focus of the briefing. So that was a source of frustration for many who regard border security as a national security issue," he said.

We don't want information. We have the information. We want legislative changes.

Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine. In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don't appropriate more money for Zelensky, "we'll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia." Pay the oligarchs or we'll kill your kids.

A new Rasmussen poll finds 81% Americans agree that illegal immigration is a "serious" problem. I don't think that 81% would agree that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a "serious" problem for the US.

Even Fetterman's Monster agrees that illegal immigration is a major problem. In addition to condemning calls for intifada** and declaring that the "pathway to peace" in the Middle East requires a total defeat of Hamas, Fetterman's Monster is demanding action on the border.

From TheMessenger:

Fetterman Calls on Democrats To Engage in Border Talks Amid Stalled Immigration Negotiations
'I hope Democrats can understand that it isn't xenophobic to be concerned about the border,' said the Pennsylvania Democrat

...Fetterman urged his fellow party members to acknowledge the large number of migrants coming across the border, citing an estimated 270,000 border encounters reported in September by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
"Honestly, it's astonishing. And this isn't a Fox News kind of statistic. This is the government's," Fetterman underscored.

The Monster means, you can't dismiss this as invented made-up Fake Fox statistic, which is what liberals literally always do with facts they don't like. He emphasizes these are government numbers. (And I would add: the government is greatly lowballing the figures.)

"You essentially have [the population of] Pittsburgh showing up there at the border."

Fetterman on the border crisis: “Honestly, it’s astonishing. And this isn’t a Fox News kind of statistic. This is the government’s. You essentially have Pittsburgh showing up there at the border.”

Maybe if more members of Congress had strokes they’d become reasonable like John pic.twitter.com/rCTjlnRQ02
— Pedro L. Gonzalez (@emeriticus) December 7, 2023

* I took vitamin D and vitamin K plus zinc and a multivitamin with D, C, various B's, and elderberry, which I think is supposed to help deliver the other vitamins into the cells instead of being urinated out as waste. A commenter here recommended that. The cold was gone in 24 hours so I think this is a winning combination.

** Did he actually condemn the intifada chants? I think he condemned the antisemtic crowds that Jew-baited the owners of the Goldie's restaurant. Close enough. I don't feel like looking it up to be honest with you.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:10 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2023 12:09 PM (eYoxG)

2 You know, Lamont wouldn't have made a mistake like that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:10 PM (zZu0s)

3 Hi Ace

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 08, 2023 12:10 PM (t/2Uw)

4 Every day is a fresh, new hell.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 12:11 PM (R4t5M)

5 We'll close the border after the last illegal arrives

Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 12:11 PM (SnxUt)

6 * I took vitamin D

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:10 PM

Ah, garrett must have ministered to ace while he was sick.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

7 Defund the Border Patrol.

What difference would it make?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

8 "Tempers flared" during the meeting.

So, that guy with the 'splodey house in Arlington was there? I thought he was mort.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:12 PM (JrojV)

9 Maybe we will get lucky, he will get Biden to go along with the border then tell him forget it on Ukraine. I doubt we will get either, but its Friday, so I'll hold onto the dream for a few seconds.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:12 PM (sX1BW)

10

LOL: Guess what I just saw flying over Cambridge, MA?

A plane pulling a banner with an Israeli flag and "Harvard Hates Jews" or something like that. I couldn't read it.

The plane flew the banner yesterday, too, and it made the local news.

haha, fuckyou harvard!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 08, 2023 12:12 PM (RadBF)

11 There is so much criminal activity they are desperate to keep secret, that Putin will reveal to the world.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2023 12:12 PM (MeG8a)

12 The Dems want as many Guatemalans here are possible.

They are cheap votes, they calm down the corporate wing of the GOPe, and they are useful for increasing crime so they can in turn demand more power to "fight crime".

Obviously both they and the GOPe are getting paid with the Uke war, and they are getting a bunch of white Christians killed with the endless war.

So essentially the left is being asked to pick between two things they want. That's why they are pissed.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:13 PM (XqcwY)

13 12 I for one welcome our new Guacamolean overlords...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (JrojV)

14 >Mike Johnson Gives Biden an Ultimatum: Either Protect the American Border Or No More Money for Ukraine
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I call that bold talk from a one-eyed fat man

all seriousness aside, he can't back that up

Posted by: Don Black at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (geLO8)

15 Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine. In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don't appropriate more money for Zelensky, "we'll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia." Pay the oligarchs or we'll kill your kids.

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I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

16 Ha. Good for the plane.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (R4t5M)

17 I'm surprised Maj. Healey hasn't already been by to tell us Johnson is a d***.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:15 PM (CsUN+)

18 Fetterman is pro Israel and anti illegals.
Who had that on their 2023 bingo card?

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:15 PM (Tll0L)

19 Man, does Manhattan want its Ukraine money bad.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:15 PM (ntk8v)

20 "Tempers flared" during the meeting.

Good. That's how you know you're getting to them.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:15 PM (CsUN+)

21 14 >Mike Johnson Gives Biden an Ultimatum: Either Protect the American Border Or No More Money for Ukraine
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I call that bold talk from a one-eyed fat man

all seriousness aside, he can't back that up
Posted by: Don Black at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (geLO

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I want the House to realize its power. I not hopeful that Mike Johnson is the man to do it, but it'd be cool if he was.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

22
I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).

I suspect draft officers will start disappearing along with the kids that are called to be drafted. The former in a bad way the later in a "hiding in the attic" way

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:16 PM (XqcwY)

23 18 Fetterman is pro Israel and anti illegals.
Who had that on their 2023 bingo card?
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It may have just been a brain fart. Let's wait and see.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:16 PM (ntk8v)

24 Somebody must have hit Fetterlump over the head with an ax handle.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 12:16 PM (R4t5M)

25
I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

70% of 18 year olds are Democrats. I’d love to see a draft enacted by a Democrat administration for the lulz alone.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:17 PM (Tll0L)

26 I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

Austin does not seem real bright.

This is not
Praetorian Guard: pay us or we will find an emperor who will!

It is:

Pay us- or we will train and arm your sons!

There is something profoundly retarded about the current dem belief that institutional capture means they can do whatever they want, but no one will ever have anything to say or do- ever.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:17 PM (zZu0s)

27 Fetterman Calls on Democrats To Engage in Border Talks Amid Stalled Immigration Negotiations
'I hope Democrats can understand that it isn't xenophobic to be concerned about the border,' said the Pennsylvania Democrat

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Just goes to show you, even a brain damaged retard is smarter than your average Democrat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:17 PM (FVME7)

28 I want the House to realize its power. I not hopeful that Mike Johnson is the man to do it, but it'd be cool if he was.

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You never know what convergence of events may finally occur that may (just may) lead a GOP House to grow a pair.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (sX1BW)

29 Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine. In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don't appropriate more money for Zelensky, "we'll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia." Pay the oligarchs or we'll kill your kids.
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As I said this morning, Austin's statement may be one of the most despicable things FJB has done. "Pay me and my cronies or your children will die."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (7fElN)

30 I'd be happy if they just enforced the existing immigration laws on the books.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (DBrN4)

31 so, as i understand it, our official policy is that the war between ukraine and russia must go on until russia is defeated but israel needs to hurry up and negotiate with hamas. these are basically the same people who wanted reagan to stop stalling and make peace with the ussr

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (B1FKF)

32 Fetterman is pro Israel and anti illegals.

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Fetterman is the voice of his generation!

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (sX1BW)

33 Good. If we're going to give away billions, WE should get something out of it too.

Why Americans are second class citizens in this country baffles me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (xcxpd)

34 I’ve said this before, but border security legislation is meaningless without the executive enforcing it. We have “border security” laws now. But nobody enforces them. What will additional laws do? Nothing. At least not for the next year until hopefully Trump is in office in 2025.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (Tll0L)

35 >> Cramer said Schumer went "nuts" when he insisted that the general convince Democrats that the war in Ukraine is a vital enough national security interest to justify them making concessions on immigration and asylum reform.

You wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts!! — George Costanza lying about his summer home in the Hamptons

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (ixCnf)

36 Went out with a girl once whose father smelt of elderberries-off-putting, to say the least.

Posted by: Vitameatavegamine at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (83IzV)

37 I took vitamin D and vitamin K plus zinc and a multivitamin with D, C, various B's, and elderberry

Hope you didn't get that last one from the Brewster sisters.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (JrojV)

38 Sounds like Ace is all hopped-up on vitamins.

Posted by: Weasel at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (RG6z4)

39 There is something profoundly retarded about the current dem belief that institutional capture means they can do whatever they want, but no one will ever have anything to say or do- ever.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:17 PM (zZu0s)

Yeah they seem to imagine the words-on-paper rules, which they frequently disregard, are the same as practical power.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (eYoxG)

40 I'll say it again. Fettermonster has been red pilled and is now a problem for his handlers in the dummycrat party. He would make a good Moron

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:19 PM (ZV+pB)

41 So Fetterman is actually a Conservative Manchurian Candidate? This script is wild.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (ntk8v)

42 As I said this morning, Austin's statement may be one of the most despicable things FJB has done. "Pay me and my cronies or your children will die."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (7fElN)

Honestly, as horrific as it has been, I DO appreciate how Trump has managed to get these jacknuts to show us who they are.

Thank you, President Trump.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

43 your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries

Posted by: boot55555 at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (BBPQE)

44 2nd look at every senator wearing a hoodie to work?

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (Tll0L)

45 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (IXZGh)

46 Pretty surprised The Turtle was on board with this packaging of border security with Ukraine funding. Even he can feel the heat through that tortoise shell I guess.

After Austin spouts that shit, he will now pivot to lamenting the recruiting difficulties of the armed forces. Hard to figure out why people don't want their kids used as hostages for graft.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (5C4od)

47 37 I took vitamin D and vitamin K plus zinc and a multivitamin with D, C, various B's, and elderberry
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So you smell of elderberries?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (ntk8v)

48 Austin does not seem real bright.

This is not
Praetorian Guard: pay us or we will find an emperor who will!

It is:

Pay us- or we will train and arm your sons!

There is something profoundly retarded about the current dem belief that institutional capture means they can do whatever they want, but no one will ever have anything to say or do- ever.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:17 PM (zZu0s)
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It's worse than that. They will NOT properly train nor properly equip any American troops sent over there. The logistics will be a deliberate nightmare of epic proportions, designed to destroy our morale and kill more of our soldiers than are warranted.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (7fElN)

49 How about NO MORE MONEY for Ukraine and just securing our borders?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (IXZGh)

50 Fetterman also called out his antisemitic colleagues and called for Menendez to be expelled. Someone conked him on the head and reset his logic setting.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (MNhXM)

51 "Ah the Brewster sisters..." -Paolo D. Hampster.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (Ukgr4)

52 He would make a good Moron

I doubt it. He probably wouldn't understand most of the puns or limericks, and Giselle would probably keep a tight rein on him to make sure he didn't engage in any banter involving boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (JrojV)

53 You know how every picture/video of the "refugees" we keep taking in shows its 80%+ young fighting age men?

I was watching a video recently of a feminist bitching about passport bros. The complaint boils down to American men looking outside the US for romantic partners creates more competition for American women (supply and demand...its like a universal law or something).

Anyway, returning to our "refugee" I wonder if a significant part of the left feminist support here is because we are increasing the supply of men for hetero feminists. Yes, only theoretically, I don't suppose 5ft tall and macho is what you average feminist wants but the left already bases a hell of a lot on what it does on "theoretically"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (XqcwY)

54 So, that guy with the 'splodey house in Arlington was there? I thought he was mort.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

'Spodey house iceberg.

https://tinyurl.com/y9cfx9ys

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (FVME7)

55 OK, lets give Z his paycheck and let him know that 1.8M Gazans will be coming along for the ride.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (YRsIm)

56 "Schumer accused his colleagues of acting disrespectfully toward senior military officials.

Well, they are members of the Deep State so you must bend the knee.

I really don't see how more money or laws will help when open border Dems are in charge. Latest videos from the border show illegals flooding in thru a small breech in a huge wall with border agents looking on. No amount of money can fix that. it will just be used for more shelters and processing centers and bus tickets.

Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (JojsZ)

57 I take 6000 IUs of vitamin D every day. There is no way to get enough Vitamin D in the winter in New England. You should make it part of your daily routine. I was taking zinc every day and then read that wasn't a good idea so now take it a few times a week. Also reservatrol. And fish oil. And a probiotic. And red rice yeast which is a natural statin.
This may seem weird but I am rarely sick and I had Covid once for 48 hours.
Maybe I'm just lucky but I'll keep up the regimen just in case.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (t/2Uw)

58
Schumer accused his colleagues of acting disrespectfully toward senior military officials.

Oh, My Heavens! * faints *

Who works for whom, asshole?

Getting a dressing down from the boss is a sometimes necessary thing "for the good of the order".

I direct your attention to the incident of former Senator Barbara Boxer summarily directing a senior military commander to fetch her coffee, or some such. Where was your outrage then, Schmuckie?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (xG4kz)

59 Not honoring the purpose of a meeting! Well, I never!

Posted by: Savagery. Absolute savagery. at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (pjs7m)

60
Ah, yes, the ol' Gilligan second-conk on the head to make things right, again.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (RadBF)

61 Maybe someone gave Fetterman a Baby Ruth.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (sX1BW)

62 I feel like the charges against Hunter is the deep state putting a leash on The Big Guy. The people who hate Joe Biden and follow the story every day are not going to benefit when all is said and done.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (ybIRR)

63 I'll say it again. Fettermonster has been red pilled and is now a problem for his handlers in the dummycrat party. He would make a good Moron

Whoa there, hoss. I like what he's done here, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (CsUN+)

64 OK, lets give Z his paycheck and let him know that 1.8M Gazans will be coming along for the ride.

1.8M Jihadis might have an impact on Ukraine's status as international playground for globohomo you know.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:23 PM (XqcwY)

65 I was watching a video recently of a feminist bitching about passport bros. The complaint boils down to American men looking outside the US for romantic partners creates more competition for American women

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I was told by very smart feminists women don’t need men anymore.

So why would they care?

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:23 PM (Tll0L)

66 I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at

There will be no draft. See Durbin's offer to the illegals - citizenship for mercenary work. A lot easier to use them against us as well.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 08, 2023 12:23 PM (5C4od)

67 How about no money for Ukraine, securing our border and deporting 50 million plus illegals

Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 12:23 PM (SnxUt)

68 He probably wouldn't understand most of the puns or limericks, and Giselle would probably keep a tight rein on him to make sure he didn't engage in any banter involving boobs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Yeah, but probably speaks in haiku.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:23 PM (FVME7)

69 Kabuki.

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (wZuzq)

70 That is a great immunity mix of vitamins.

Posted by: Inogame at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (53oGX)

71 Maybe someone gave Fetterman a Baby Ruth.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (sX1BW)

Did you mean snickers bar ?

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (MNhXM)

72
I was told by very smart feminists women don’t need men anymore.

So why would they care?

I know this is going to come as a shock but most of them are lying.

See also the feminists videos along the lines of "Why am I only sexually attracted to men whose politics I hate?!?"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (XqcwY)

73 Is Fetterman a better Senator than Oz would have been?

Honest question.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (TVyhE)

74
I really don't see how more money or laws will help when open border Dems are in charge. Latest videos from the border show illegals flooding in thru a small breech in a huge wall with border agents looking on. No amount of money can fix that. it will just be used for more shelters and processing centers and bus tickets.
Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (JojsZ)

Exactly. It’s like education. You can throw all the money at it and it won’t change because the entire system is fucked up.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (Tll0L)

75 In case you didn't know, Congress, the borders of the US have more effect on national security than f*cking Ukraine does........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (IXZGh)

76 Protect the American border AND no more money for Ukraine.

There. That's better.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (R92o9)

77 "So Fetterman is actually a Conservative Manchurian Candidate? This script is wild."

He keeps spouting conservative talking points and we'll have to stop calling him Fettermonster.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (ou9hh)

78 Charging Hunter in CA is a gimmick.

It's equivalent of Charging Trump in WY, which would never happen.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (WLG+Q)

79 The border is a high priority because the threat of attack via that vector has never been higher. That's the other meeting they had which nobody is talking about. Washington is all about ass covering and nobody wants to be without a chair when the music stops and a terrorist attack hits.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (FsMXC)

80 My Mom used to take Vitamin C every morning, and claimed she never had a cold.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (JrojV)

81 67 How about no money for Ukraine, securing our border and deporting 50 million plus illegals
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No Fun Camps for Commies? No helicopter rides? We need to step up our demands.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (ntk8v)

82 Go ahead and put your faith in a Congress that has allowed this situation to deteriorate to the crisis point. Well past the crisis point, IMO. The damage is done. I have more faith in the weather monkeys flinging excrement at the forcast than I do in a bunch of self congratulatory POS.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sailing on the Edmund Fitzgerald at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (gO83f)

83 He keeps spouting conservative talking points and we'll have to stop calling him Fettermonster.

He could barely manage "fire bad" a few months ago so...yes let's wait and see

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (XqcwY)

84 There will be no draft. See Durbin's offer to the illegals - citizenship for mercenary work. A lot easier to use them against us as well.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 08, 2023 12:23 PM (5C4od)
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Somehow that sounds even more despicable. Importing illegal citizens to use them as cannon fodder in a war that America doesn't want. The illegals might get a bit sporty about their children dying in an overseas adventure.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (7fElN)

85 The democrat solution to "fix" "illegal immigration" is amnesty and then formally opened borders.

A "final" solution if you will.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (X0I7i)

86 Fetterman has become bizarro-world version of a cross between the lib fantasy movies 'Regarding Henry' and 'Dave'

Posted by: norrin radd at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (A7GQ0)

87 Fetterman is getting brain function back and he wants to show it off by making reasonable statements instead of Democratic talking points.

Posted by: Dave at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (nLwaa)

88 My Mom used to take Vitamin C every morning, and claimed she never had a cold.

Most people get enough Vit C.

Vit D though in the northern parts of the US is a different story

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (XqcwY)

89 OK, lets give Z his paycheck and let him know that 1.8M Gazans will be coming along for the ride.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Well, they have a similar Jew hating culrure.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

90 The illegals aren’t sneaking in. They are walking through an open door. No new laws will stop this. Johnson knows this. He’s grandstanding to show he’s tough on the border but it’s all for show.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (Tll0L)

91 I don’t believe for one second that the Fetterlump is now sane and cogent and responsible. He’s had a few nice agreeable glitches in his circuitry recently but that’s like a broken clock being right twice a day…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (ixCnf)

92 Fetterman also called out his antisemitic colleagues and called for Menendez to be expelled. Someone conked him on the head and reset his logic setting.

He paid George Santos to make a video mocking Menendez. He's practically Alex Stein #99 in a hoodie.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (2ocoG)

93 I wish I trusted Johnson to follow through but he says the right thing and then the next day backs off.
The Fetterman thing is just astonishing. I can't believe he is now my favorite Senator. Like Israel, he doesn't seem to GAF what anyone else says. No equivocation. I especially liked when he wore the Israeli flag like a cape.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)

94 "I took them on with the microphone in my hand," Cramer later told reporters after the heated discussion.

Ah yes...tough guy failure theater has evolved to the point we don't even get to see the show anymore.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (VbhSD)

95 A draft would be a disaster to the morale of the nation, just as it was last time, what with all the deferrals, exemptions, classifications (4F).
They are just stupid enough to start it up. Registration is still the law. How's compliance with that going?
I thought so.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (MeG8a)

96 * I took vitamin D and vitamin K plus zinc and a multivitamin with D, C, various B's, and elderberry, which I think is supposed to help deliver the other vitamins into the cells instead of being urinated out as waste. A commenter here recommended that. The cold was gone in 24 hours so I think this is a winning combination.
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I would rather have a frontal phlebotomy than a bottle of phlegm in front of me!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (krqg6)

97 Schumer accused his colleagues of acting disrespectfully toward senior military officials.

And if there's one thing we know about the modern Democrats, it's that they respect the hell out of the military.
*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (CsUN+)

98 Latest videos from the border show illegals flooding in thru a small breech in a huge wall with border agents looking on.

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Not just "looking on."

Actively aiding. Remember when Texas tried to stop the flow of criminals entering the country and the feds cut the razor wire?

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (R92o9)

99 As if we didn't know Ukraine's border was more important than our own.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (q/T/q)

100 I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).
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The Republicans should call Biden's bluff.

He knows damned good and well the Ukraine war isn't even a top 10 for Americans.
He's just hoping the endless propaganda by the media is hiding that from congress.

Start the open counter-campaign now:.
"If Ukraine is a vital US interest, we need a draft to provide them cannon fodder, I mean, soldiers."
WWII wasn't won with money.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (TzW+Y)

101 94 "I took them on with the microphone in my hand," Cramer later told reporters after the heated discussion.

Ah yes...tough guy failure theater has evolved to the point we don't even get to see the show anymore.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (VbhSD)

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"I was awesome, man. Trust me."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:27 PM (GBKbO)

102 The way the Dems are fighting tooth and nail for Ukraine/Zelensky only means to me there are massive secrets and corruption there they terrified will come out once he is gone. That alone is reason enough to cut aid.

Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2023 12:27 PM (JojsZ)

103 Is Fetterman a better Senator than Oz would have been?

Honest question.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (TVyhE)

As a Muslim and Erdogan supporter I hate to think how Oz would be in the current environment.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:27 PM (MNhXM)

104 "You better not f*ck with Zelensky's money!!!!"

- -- - Chuck "You" Schumer

Who's muthaf*ckin' money, Chucky?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 08, 2023 12:27 PM (IXZGh)

105 BTW. This is also why Johnson is trying to move the NDAA into next year. He doesn't want that to be used against Republicans if an attack hits.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2023 12:27 PM (FsMXC)

106 Senator Abby Normal is surprising me. If suffering a stroke makes people more conservative maybe we should be looking at ways to induce strokes on the left.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 12:27 PM (ZLI7S)

107 I need a report from DU about Fetterman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:28 PM (GBKbO)

108 Is Fetterman a better Senator than Oz would have been?

Honest question.

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Hard to say. Let's see how it plays out.

Oz would have split the Senate giving GOP a bit more power.

But whether it is electoral losses, issues, age, his stroke, etc, but McConnell's power is fading. You can see it. Would a Oz winning have propped him up a bit - maybe.

I think an argument can be made at this point, that he may be better than Oz.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:28 PM (sX1BW)

109 Pretty sure Mehmet Oz, from Turkey, would have sided with Hamas. So on that front alone, Fetterman is a better choice. Politics is weird man.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:28 PM (Tll0L)

110 It's amazing how quickly Official Commentary on Ukraine has shifted from:

"Russia is an economic basket case, has the most incompetent military in world history, and Ukraine will conquer Crimea next Thursday"

to:

"Putin is on the verge of complete and utter victory in Ukraine, and American troops will be fighting Russian soldiers next Thursday if we don't give Ukraine everything that it wants."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2023 12:28 PM (YAtuc)

111 The border is a high priority because the threat of attack via that vector has never been higher

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Probably just a coincidence that Biden/Obama have opened it up like they have.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:28 PM (R92o9)

112 If suffering a stroke makes people more conservative maybe we should be looking at ways to induce strokes on the left.

Yeah, you go with that, righties.

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (JrojV)

113 Fetterman has been and still is a reliable vote for Democrats. Relax.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (FsMXC)

114 93 I wish I trusted Johnson to follow through but he says the right thing and then the next day backs off.
The Fetterman thing is just astonishing. I can't believe he is now my favorite Senator. Like Israel, he doesn't seem to GAF what anyone else says. No equivocation. I especially liked when he wore the Israeli flag like a cape.
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He'd best watch out, his fellow Senators may decide to repopulate Erie, PA, with a million Hamas mooks.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (ntk8v)

115 I've said in the past, if the only thing I knew about the Ukraine/Russian war is who are the main advocates for Ukraine I'd have to hope Russia would destroy them before they got to us.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (MNhXM)

116 I need a report from DU about Fetterman.

The Dem base, as seen on Twitter, is very, VERY angry at Fetterman.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

117 It's all kabuki. McConnell will accept cosmetic border enforcement that does nothing substantial in exchange for that sweet Ukraine grift.

Posted by: Jack Dobson at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (G5LuY)

118 I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).

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I hope they try to pass a draft. I just want the cameras running on all the faces of the politicians and the generals when they find out heritage America no longer exists thanks to them. Followed by the fact that well over half of a 330 + million population is armed whereas there's well under a million total law enforcement in the United States from the FBI director down to the loneliest constable.

Lloyd Austin's mediocre ass should be in charge of blinker fluid somewhere in a motor pool at Ft Wherethafukarwe.

"

Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (wb1YC)

119 Is "11 million" still operative?

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (AwYPR)

120 112 Yeah, you go with that, righties.
Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (JrojV)

========

"He was gonna undo the Income Tax with executive powers alone, but I hit him with the mallet again."
-Edith Wilson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

121 Auron MacIntyre noticed (and so did I) that DeSantis used the phrase "the regime", which means that he listens to people who read the same things that we do.

We will win the culture war. In the lion/fox category, we are lions up against foxes who forgot how to be clever.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (ybIRR)

122 Who wouldn't want Fettermonster hanging around here? Raise your paw

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (ZV+pB)

123 I think the lump on Fetterman's neck achieved Sentience and assumed control. Probably calls itself Kuato.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (i9ffA)

124 Probably just a coincidence that Biden/Obama have opened it up like they have.
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What emperor didn't have endless slaves?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (ntk8v)

125 116 I need a report from DU about Fetterman.

The Dem base, as seen on Twitter, is very, VERY angry at Fetterman.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

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Yes...entertain me with your cope, lefties.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

126 54 So, that guy with the 'splodey house in Arlington was there? I thought he was mort.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

'Spodey house iceberg.

https://tinyurl.com/y9cfx9ys
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:21 PM (FVME7)

Leviathan breaks the surface of the waves and a house blows up.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (xcxpd)

127 Ace, re: I really should have consulted a calendar to double check the year we were in. Hey, I was sick and my brain wasn't working so good.

After you chewed yourself out and the rest the horde out for our lack calendar talents I to got thinking that we are all [Fill in your favorite big dummy name] Big Dummies. I encourage the use of this characterization when you find yourself irritated. I, for one, will wear that name tag proudly because deep down I am a big dummy

Posted by: lost in space at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (Lqt5D)

128 I used to think the Democrats just wanted to keep the laundered money train up and running in Ukraine. Now, I think it's something different. Liberals don't give a flying fvck about spreading democracy or the overreach of tyrant governments. They never have.

What could possibly be so beneficial to them continuing to throw money down a corruptive hole of a country? Is there a massive blackmail scheme going on here?

Posted by: Orson at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (dIske)

129 Not only Biden deep into Ukraine money, BUT ESPECIALLY MARK WARNER (US Dem Sen from Virginia)

Posted by: jb at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (tXPpa)

130 The way the Dems are fighting tooth and nail for Ukraine/Zelensky only means to me there are massive secrets and corruption there they terrified will come out once he is gone.

We have excellent kompromat on all important members of the American Uniparty!

The way Senator ***** abused the whores that we provided him we he visited Ukraine was disgusting, but fortunately we have it all on video.

Posted by: The SBU! at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (YAtuc)

131 The illegals might get a bit sporty about their children dying in an overseas adventure.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Or be the front line in Tiananmen Square 2, American Bugaloo.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (IG4Id)

132 I actually would love seeing the Dems draft all the soibois, twinks, and gangbangers and send them all to Ukraine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (i9ffA)

133

Posted by: The SBU! at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (YAtuc)

134
8M Jihadis might have an impact on Ukraine's status as international playground for globohomo you know.
Posted by: 18-1

Homos and jihadis sleeping together! Mass hysteria!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (xG4kz)

135 119 Is "11 million" still operative?
Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (AwYPR)

Sure is.
- 3% official inflation rate

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (Tll0L)

136 Schumer accused his colleagues of acting disrespectfully toward senior military officials.

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Dey's gettin' uppity!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (FVME7)

137 128 I used to think the Democrats just wanted to keep the laundered money train up and running in Ukraine. Now, I think it's something different. Liberals don't give a flying fvck about spreading democracy or the overreach of tyrant governments. They never have.

What could possibly be so beneficial to them continuing to throw money down a corruptive hole of a country? Is there a massive blackmail scheme going on here?
Posted by: Orson at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (dIske)

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The entire purpose of the federal government is graft. Has been for a while, but they're just this side of completely abandoning even the pretense that there's anything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

138 Johnson issued the ultimatum in a Tuesday letter to the White House. Biden and Democrats had pushed for months to provide additional funding for Ukraine's war effort amid dwindling Republican support for the issue. With immigration being an even more divisive issue for Congress, Johnson's declaration is a major blow to the prospect of further aid to Kyiv.
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What's depressing about this is that defending the American border is a "divisive" issue for the US government, and that shoveling money into Kiev is not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (zxP/x)

139 Senate fails to advance Ukraine and Israel aid bill as GOP demands immigration limits

Moscow Mitch protecting his pal Pooty

I blame Sanders as well...had he voted yes, Harris could have been the tie breaker. I get the issue with Bibi..the guy’s a crook, so does that mean we leave all of Ukraine to fail??

No, they needed 60 votes to stop cloture. But his no-vote becomes a "talking point" for the GOP to claim "bipartisan opposition" to the bill. I think it's a mistake for any politician who caucuses with the Democratic party to oppose Biden's agenda. It only serves to validate and strengthen the GOP.

Biden: "I am willing to make significant compromises on the border." Wise move. This way they get aid and we also look strong on the border.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (VbhSD)

140 McConnell hijacked the meeting by taking the mic and freezing for 25 minutes.

Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (G0vdT)

141 Illegal immigration is a very lucrative business. If you're a politician.

So's war.

Thus, we find ourselves in the current situation. By design.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)

142 Is "11 million" still operative?
Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (AwYPR)

***

Times 5

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (ZV+pB)

143 Who wouldn't want Fettermonster hanging around here? Raise your paw
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report

He would be a more engaging, entertaining troll than Rainmondo.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sailing on the Edmund Fitzgerald at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (gO83f)

144 Lloyd Austin's mediocre ass should be in charge of blinker fluid somewhere in a motor pool at Ft Wherethafukarwe.

"
Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2023 12:30 PM (wb1YC)
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I don't think he should be entrusted with even that much responsibility.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (7fElN)

145 A recent check up with a lot of blood work showed my D and B12 level in the really good range. Also, triglycerides were good and a lot of other things that could be giving me problems. Doc looked at the list of supplements I take ( D3, B12, magnesium, zinc, phytosterols, fish oil and a couple others). I told him I believed the key to supplements is taking them regularly, not taking a couple fish oil caps and saying "I'm cured". Also taking with food for absortion. He said keep up the good work.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (0EOe9)

146 92 He paid George Santos to make a video mocking Menendez. He's practically Alex Stein #99 in a hoodie.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 12:26 PM (2ocoG)

"I'M A LUMP ON THE STUMP!"

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (sm6Pk)

147 If Ukraine is this critical to our security, then surely it's worth Biden actually protecting the southern border and deporting illegal aliens, isn't it?

If it's not as important as that, then I don't want to spend another nickel on it, and Russia is welcome to take the whole fucking corrupt Biden-bribing country.
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I'm not entirely sure how, but I am nonetheless certain that this statement is racist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (zxP/x)

148 There will be no draft. See Durbin's offer to the illegals - citizenship for mercenary work. A lot easier to use them against us as well.
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The Republicans should take him up on the offer:
Close the border and hang up a "Free Entry (and One-way Ticket to Ukraine) if You Enlist!" sign at the border.

I couldn't think of a better way to seal it tighter than a drum.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (TzW+Y)

149 If we win, it is because lions beat foxes in a crumbling empire.

If we lose, it is because we don't have the stomach to put objectively destructive people EG Fauci in jail.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (ybIRR)

150 Any time I see Lloyd I think Dumb and Dumber.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (Tll0L)

151 About time some of these Biden Junta criminals got shouted at instead of politely disagreed with.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (J2vNu)

152 Glad you're feeling better, Ace.

I deleted the rest of what I typed.

Posted by: Brando at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (IL8V+)

153 The illegals might get a bit sporty about their children dying in an overseas adventure.

Nah, they're going to be the Regime's internal security forces.

Posted by: The Uniparty! at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (YAtuc)

154 We will win the culture war. In the lion/fox category, we are lions up against foxes who forgot how to be clever.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

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Speaking of:

November 2023

"California Voters Support Biological Definitions of Sex

"Over 70% of California voters state that they define a woman as someone “biologically born female,” while only 14% of voters agree that “anyone who feels or says they are” is a woman. A majority of voters (54%) support defining the word “woman” in law to protect women’s rights, with only 22.4% of voter opposing such laws. "

https://tinyurl.com/ytbxhcj9

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (R92o9)

155 And he slammed McConnell for turning the briefing into a partisan food fight over immigration policy instead of a factual analysis of Ukraine's ability to hold off a Russian invasion without additional U.S. military aid.
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Immigration policy? What a thing to label what is the invasion of the US. And isn't the invasion of the US a military matter? Should be.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (xgStB)

156 What could possibly be so beneficial to them continuing to throw money down a corruptive hole of a country? Is there a massive blackmail scheme going on here?
Posted by: Orson at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (dIske)

I think it's two things:

- incestuous spaghetti of everyone blackmailing everyone else
- a fantastically easy and unquestioned mechanism to take newborn dollars from the public fisc and make them magically not public with zero effort

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (9UlRk)

157 Cramer said Schumer went "nuts" when he insisted that the general convince Democrats that the war in Ukraine is a vital enough national security interest to justify them making concessions on immigration and asylum reform.
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The implication here is that protecting the American border and deporting illegal aliens are *not* considered a national security interest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (zxP/x)

158 139 No, they needed 60 votes to stop cloture. But his no-vote becomes a "talking point" for the GOP to claim "bipartisan opposition" to the bill. I think it's a mistake for any politician who caucuses with the Democratic party to oppose Biden's agenda. It only serves to validate and strengthen the GOP.

Biden: "I am willing to make significant compromises on the border." Wise move. This way they get aid and we also look strong on the border.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (VbhSD)

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1. These people are partisans first and foremost. Policy and ideology simply do not matter to them.

2. "Look strong on the border", not actually address the people's concerns about the border.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (GBKbO)

159 Democrats have no intention of closing the border.
They want these illegals to be able to vote in local elections and eventually federal elections.

Stacy Abrams revealed this to us and she will probably be working behind the scenes to make it happen.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (NpAcC)

160 What's depressing about this is that defending the American border is a "divisive" issue for the US government, and that shoveling money into Kiev is not.

Also this seems to me the first time since...ever? That a Republican congress has led on this issue.

They stymied Trump when he was president and enabled Obama endlessly.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (XqcwY)

161 >>What could possibly be so beneficial to them continuing to throw money down a corruptive hole of a country? Is there a massive blackmail scheme going on here?

Ukraine has been at the center of our politics since the early 2010s. It was the key source for dirt that made up the Russia hoax and when Trump tried to look into the corruption there they immediately impeached him based on a CIA created lie. The war was a NATO, largely US, instigated event and keeping it going is all they care about.

There are a lot of bodies buried in Ukraine that they do not want us to ever find.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (ZLI7S)

162 Who wouldn't want Fettermonster hanging around here? Raise your paw
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report

He would be a more engaging, entertaining troll than Rainmondo.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sailing on the Edmund Fitzgerald at December 08, 2023 12:33 PM (gO83f)
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"We've secretly replaced Senator Fetterman's preferred social media platform X with AoSHQ. Let's see if he notices..."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (7fElN)

163 Schumer accused his colleagues of acting disrespectfully toward senior military officials. ---

I don't remember him scolding Boxer ? when she dressed down the General for referring to her as ma'm instead of Senator.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:35 PM (MNhXM)

164 I'm skeptical that Johnson has the votes to hold UKR aid hostage to border reform for very long.

Gaetz & his minuscule group of 6 or so lame ducks (Buck) and Ron Paul-like antisemites (Massie) gets ALL the credit for what's coming America's way in 2024.

That will very possibly entail handing the House majority back over to the DEMs outright prior to the '24 election. Or alternatively, some ghastly "power-sharing unity coalition" with the DEMs.

One last thing: I'd bet money that the DEMs pick up Santos' old seat. Tossup, my adz. Hope I've never been more wrong, & that I'm pleasantly surprised by the outcome of the special election in NY.

Posted by: mnw at December 08, 2023 12:35 PM (NLIak)

165 'I hope Democrats can understand that it isn't xenophobic to be concerned about the border,' said the Pennsylvania Democrat
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Yes it is. Xenophobic, racist, jingoistic, supremacist, evil. Your party's rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:35 PM (zxP/x)

166
Biden: "I am willing to make significant compromises on the border." Wise move. This way they get aid and we also look strong on the border.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 08, 2023 12:32 PM (VbhSD)

Key word: look
It’s all for show
DU gets it.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:35 PM (Tll0L)

167 Posted by: lost in space at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (Lqt5D)

Lol. Ace is where the term "Moron Horde" came from. It wasn't affectionate at the time either. Ironically, he now understands the validity of many of the ideas that he originally termed moronic.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 08, 2023 12:35 PM (nC+QA)

168 * I took vitamin D and vitamin K plus zinc and a multivitamin with D, C, various B's, and elderberry, which I think is supposed to help deliver the other vitamins into the cells instead of being urinated out as waste. A commenter here recommended that. The cold was gone in 24 hours so I think this is a winning combination.
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Nice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:35 PM (zxP/x)

169 "Over 70% of California voters state that they define a woman as someone “biologically born female,” while only 14% of voters agree that “anyone who feels or says they are” is a woman. A majority of voters (54%) support defining the word “woman” in law to protect women’s rights, with only 22.4% of voter opposing such laws. "

Remember when CA voted to ban gay marriage?

And then a judge said democracy demands I overturn this plebiscite...the GOPe said "not the hill to die on" and now if you question gay marriage you will be cancelled.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (XqcwY)

170
The entire purpose of the federal government is graft. Has been for a while, but they're just this side of completely abandoning even the pretense that there's anything else.
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Extend this to NATO and you're getting close to real answer. Imagine if PAX America is a toothless tiger? Empires don't die slowly.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (ntk8v)

171 About time some of these Biden Junta criminals got shouted at instead of politely disagreed with.

But...but...but...they're my good friends across the aisle?

Posted by: Sen. Cornyn at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (CsUN+)

172 I've been REALLY curious what a draft would do to American politics, especially coming from a Democratic administration in service to a war that no one thinks we should be directly involved in (well, no one outside the Acela Corridor).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
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I've seen a number of videos on YouTube recently and gen z believes that a draft is coming and they want nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (SXo2f)

173 How about no money for Ukraine, securing our border and deporting 50 million plus illegals

AND sending 1.8M Gazans to Z

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (YRsIm)

174 Biden: "I am willing to make significant compromises on the border."

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And it will be starting from where we are now.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (R92o9)

175 Remember when CA voted to ban gay marriage?

And then a judge said democracy demands I overturn this plebiscite...the GOPe said "not the hill to die on" and now if you question gay marriage you will be cancelled.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (XqcwY)
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Funnily enough, I do remember that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (zxP/x)

176 A recent check up with a lot of blood work showed my D and B12 level in the really good range. Also, triglycerides were good and a lot of other things that could be giving me problems. Doc looked at the list of supplements I take ( D3, B12, magnesium, zinc, phytosterols, fish oil and a couple others). I told him I believed the key to supplements is taking them regularly, not taking a couple fish oil caps and saying "I'm cured". Also taking with food for absortion. He said keep up the good work.

Posted by: bill in arkansas

Yes. Exactly.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (t/2Uw)

177 What's depressing about this is that defending the American border is a "divisive" issue for the US government, and that shoveling money into Kiev is not.

Also this seems to me the first time since...ever? That a Republican congress has led on this issue.

They stymied Trump when he was president and enabled Obama endlessly.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (XqcwY

They still are pushing the kids in cages as a Trump thing instead of Obama when it it was implemented.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (MNhXM)

178 107 I need a report from DU about Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

DU seems very supportive of Fetterman, and mostly so for Israel. There are outliers supporting "Palestine" and decrying Israel's "excessive force", but DU skews older and (hard to believe) less radical, so Israel still gets a but of a pass.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (VbhSD)

179 Just remembered, only a month ago some Mayorakas and a couple other members of the regime briefly acknowledged there was too much illegal immigration and even talked about about a border wall. Briefly. What happened to that?

Oh, yeah investigation of NYC mayor corruption was opened, that took care of the border problem.

Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (JojsZ)

180 I've seen a number of videos on YouTube recently and gen z believes that a draft is coming and they want nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (SXo2f)
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If so, Gen-Z might be paying attention to something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (zxP/x)

181 McConnell hijacked the meeting by taking the mic and freezing for 25 minutes.

Posted by: WisRich

He was fillibustering!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (FVME7)

182 Posted by: lost in space at December 08, 2023 12:31 PM (Lqt5D)

Wait, I thought we were officially "Boneheads" now. I can't keep up. I'm so confused...

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (JrojV)

183 172 I've seen a number of videos on YouTube recently and gen z believes that a draft is coming and they want nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (SXo2f)

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Help us, Ralph Nader's campaign team circa 2004, you're our only hope.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

184
"I took them on with the microphone in my hand," Cramer later told reporters after the heated discussion.

I'm sure that you were a regular Roger Daltry performing "Won't Get Fooled Again" with that mic and cord, Senator.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (xG4kz)

185 I've seen a number of videos on YouTube recently and gen z believes that a draft is coming and they want nothing to do with it.

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Tough luck because Trump said pussy.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (R92o9)

186 General intro, "The United National says women have borne the brunt of Israel's onslaught in Gaza. Two-thirds of those killed in a war, purportedly against hamas, are women and children. Why are so many women victims? And what can the world do to protect them?

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UN Secretary General Invokes Article 99 to Demand Ceasefire in Gaza

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I don't know what article 99 is but I'm sure peace is at hand.

Also . . .

UN Climate Summit Serves Gourmet Burgers and BBQ While Calling on Americans to Stop Eating Meat

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (FVME7)

187 This busty redhead wants a closed border and mass deportations:
https://is.gd/pJXfCr

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (zxP/x)

188 Remember when CA voted to ban gay marriage?

And then a judge said democracy demands I overturn this plebiscite...the GOPe said "not the hill to die on" and now if you question gay marriage you will be cancelled.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (XqcwY)
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A Gay judge.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (MNhXM)

189 178 DU seems very supportive of Fetterman, and mostly so for Israel. There are outliers supporting "Palestine" and decrying Israel's "excessive force", but DU skews older and (hard to believe) less radical, so Israel still gets a but of a pass.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (VbhSD)

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Well, it's not just the Israel stuff, it's also this insistence that illegal immigration is bad, out of control, and needs to be reduced.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (GBKbO)

190 >>> I take 6000 IUs of vitamin D every day. There is no way to get enough Vitamin D in the winter in New England. You should make it part of your daily routine.

i usually do, I was just sure of it when i got sick.

my doctor just suggested taking D daily too, so doctors seem to be catching up with what the public knows

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (KRtlO)

191 What could possibly be so beneficial to them continuing to throw money down a corruptive hole of a country? Is there a massive blackmail scheme going on here?
Posted by: Orson
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It's not just the bribes they were taking. That they have, so far, successfully cast as ordinary business.

What they are hiding is the sex trafficking. Of minors.

Hunter, Joe, several other Democrats and a bunch of top people at the FBI and CIA have profited off of sex trafficking through Ukraine.
There is more than one Epstein Island.
And they all need fresh meat.
All roads lead to Obama....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (TzW+Y)

192 Ooops. Off, he-kept-us-out-of-war sock.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (JrojV)

193 Not well remembered now but one of the big items in the '04 election was the Democrat/FNM's claim that Shrub would institute a draft if re-elected.

Note they did not claim he might...they claimed it was a certainty.

I wonder if Trump is going to raise this point after the primaries?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (XqcwY)

194 Remember when CA voted to ban gay marriage?

And then a judge said democracy demands I overturn this plebiscite...the GOPe said "not the hill to die on" and now if you question gay marriage you will be cancelled.

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It's weird how similar that is to the 2020 election.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (R92o9)

195 You know, that is one discussion I do not think I have ever seen at the HQ: is the draft/conscription moral or justified? Does that calculus change in times of existential crisis?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (zZu0s)

196 185 I've seen a number of videos on YouTube recently and gen z believes that a draft is coming and they want nothing to do with it.

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Tough luck because Trump said pussy.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (R92o9)

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That's a disservice to their intelligence and the multitude of issues that concern them.

Also, Republicans hate the gays.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

197 FNC's Jennifer (spit) Griffin called TuCa a liar, said Austin said no such thing.

She's a lisping Pentagon tool.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (eP0vo)

198 Reddit is the antithesis of DU. Hamas can do no wrong.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (Tll0L)

199 my doctor just suggested taking D daily too, so doctors seem to be catching up with what the public knows
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (KRtlO)

Remember to hydrate, garrett.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (zZu0s)

200 Biden: "I am willing to make significant compromises on the border."

Even Biden and his minions have realized that the border has become a very dangerous issue for them. They'll do something, preferably (from their perspective) just Potemkin solutions, but they know they have to act so they can claim they're addressing the problem.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (CsUN+)

201 181 McConnell hijacked the meeting by taking the mic and freezing for 25 minutes.

Posted by: WisRich

He was fillibustering!
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He goes full Turtle. He's a Roman Legionnaire.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (ntk8v)

202 This busty redhead wants a closed border and mass deportations:
https://is.gd/pJXfCr
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Mmmm...what I wouldn't do with her behind closed borders...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (JrojV)

203 >>>Pretty surprised The Turtle was on board with this packaging of border security with Ukraine funding. Even he can feel the heat through that tortoise shell I guess.

yeah that's a shock and I wonder what the catch is or what the betrayal will be. he can't be on the level. it's obviously just making a show of it before turning to the conference and saying, "Guys, we gave it the good fight. it's time to give up and give in."

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (KRtlO)

204 I say bring the draft on. 2 years compulsory for everyone. No college exemptions.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (Tll0L)

205 my doctor just suggested taking D daily too, so doctors seem to be catching up with what the public knows
Posted by: ace

--

Ace, don't miss the poll at 154

(not that it matters to Our Betters, but when even 70% of Californians agree that a woman can't have a penis...)

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (R92o9)

206 Horse, barn door. There is no stopping what is going to happen on account of them millions that already came over the border. You will not recognize this country - or what is left of it - 20 years from now.

Not saying don't do anything about it, but... don't make the mistake of expecting that it actually matters anymore.

Posted by: somedood at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (PHukT)

207 I caught the cold 36 hrs ago. So far I've taken two packs of Kools. No help. If you say zinc is good, I'll get the galvanized Kools.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at December 08, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)

208 "If so, Gen-Z might be paying attention to something.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:37 PM (zxP/x)"

Gen Z generally gets all of their "news" from tiktok and similar bullshit. They're not paying attention to anything.

Posted by: somedood at December 08, 2023 12:41 PM (PHukT)

209 "Is "11 million" still operative?

Posted by: BignJames"

Sort of. That will be the amount of illegals that enter in Biden's 4 years.

Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2023 12:41 PM (JojsZ)

210 This busty redhead wants a closed border and mass deportations:

Isn't she the same one we had yesterday? The one who people said was too young?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (CsUN+)

211 197 FNC's Jennifer (spit) Griffin called TuCa a liar, said Austin said no such thing.

She's a lisping Pentagon tool.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 08, 2023 12:39 PM (eP0vo)

When Tucker said it was confirmed, I took it to mean that at least 2 republican Senators present in that hearing had personally told him that it was true. Of course they would not go on the record about closed hearing testimony.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (i9ffA)

212 203 >>>Pretty surprised The Turtle was on board with this packaging of border security with Ukraine funding. Even he can feel the heat through that tortoise shell I guess.

yeah that's a shock and I wonder what the catch is or what the betrayal will be. he can't be on the level. it's obviously just making a show of it before turning to the conference and saying, "Guys, we gave it the good fight. it's time to give up and give in."
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (KRtlO)

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I think Mitch's kingdom is primarily king of the donors. He manages that money primarily while getting scraps at the actual government table.

So, Republican donors must be making noise. I assume this because I assume that Mitch is a bitch for donor dollars and doesn't do anything that his donors don't want done.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (GBKbO)

213 >>>Glad you're feeling better, Ace.

thank you.

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (KRtlO)

214 McConnell hijacked the meeting by taking the mic and freezing for 25 minutes.

Posted by: WisRich
*
He was fillibustering!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023

***
The mares in the corral object to this plan.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (J2vNu)

215 Sept - 270,000 = 9,000/day X 365 day/yr

= 3,285,000 new immigrants per year.**

Catch and release, bus to the interior with immigration hearing 3-5 years down the road. Yeah, that's sustainable.

(** 3,294,000 in leap year)

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (991eG)

216 Mmmm...what I wouldn't do with her behind closed borders...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (JrojV)

Is it wrong that I looked at that wrap dress thing (what are those called?) and thought of the green one Shatner wore sometimes in Star Trek?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (zZu0s)

217 "Is "11 million" still operative?

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I'm guessing 11M is just what's been in two or three southern states for the last decade.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - No R candidates will discuss voter fraud because Trump said pussy at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (R92o9)

218 11m is correct. For California.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (Tll0L)

219 183 172 Heh. The draft. Witnessed at the Cleveland Federal Building Induction Center. Eight guys who were pissed off about being drafted and then getting drafted into The Corps. Unluckiest bastards in Cuyahoga County.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (0EOe9)

220 Every meeting room should be " as secure as the border" from here on out.

Posted by: Ferris Buman at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (DZrNt)

221 McConnell hijacked the meeting by taking the mic and freezing for 25 minutes.

Posted by: WisRich

He was fillibustering!
--------------
He goes full Turtle. He's a Roman Legionnaire.
Posted by: Pudinhead

I LOL'd at the link that Wolfus Aurelius posted on a previous thread with a picture of McConnell next to one of Granny Clampett, and they both have the same look on their face, and a caption saying that Mitch was the child that Granny left behind in Kentucky.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (JrojV)

222 Washington State Economist Forced Out for Refusing to Lie

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Apparently, the dumb sumbitch doesn't understand government at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (FVME7)

223 Isn't she the same one we had yesterday? The one who people said was too young?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (CsUN+)

Looks lower 20s to me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (zZu0s)

224 Lloyd Austin's mediocre ass should be in charge of blinker fluid somewhere in a motor pool at Ft Wherethafukarwe.

Ft. Ft Wherethafukarwe was named after a Confederate colonel. We've renamed it Ft. Sanchez-Meyer-Lopez, after the first Latinx Lesbian Immigrant Wiccan Army Chaplain. So stunning and brave. The model of our future military force.

Posted by: General Lloyd Austin at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (VbhSD)

225 204 I say bring the draft on. 2 years compulsory for everyone. No college exemptions.
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (Tll0L)

An extra year added on for every year you don't get shot at.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (sm6Pk)

226 Ukraine has been at the center of our politics since the early 2010s. It was the key source for dirt that made up the Russia hoax and when Trump tried to look into the corruption there they immediately impeached him based on a CIA created lie. The war was a NATO, largely US, instigated event and keeping it going is all they care about.

There are a lot of bodies buried in Ukraine that they do not want us to ever find.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 12:34 PM (ZLI7S)

____________________________

So, back in 2022 when Putin made an odd speech accussing the US of having a multitude of laboratories throughout Ukraine developing biologicals, and dangerous experiments, it might not have been just Putin being Putin.

Posted by: Orson at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (dIske)

227 Ace, are you my father?

Posted by: Arthur Pendragon at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (481GL)

228 I think ace and the cobs should send Fettermonster the Tinfoil Level membership to AoSHQ. Give him the keys to the place to do a weekend post or 2

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (ZV+pB)

229 The one yesterday was hotter and younger.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (Tll0L)

230 Two-thirds of those killed in a war, purportedly against hamas, are women and children.

Remember that "children" includes 16, 17, and 18-year-old Hamas "fighters".

Same trick they play with the "gun violence" statistics, where a dead 17-year-old gangbanger becomes a dead "child".

Posted by: The Uniparty! at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (YAtuc)

231 Have to stay healthy Ace.
We need you.

Sincerely,
Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (t/2Uw)

232 If we were a serious nation with a serious representative government, and some affirmative action asshat made a threat like that, he'd have been in the unemployment line the next day.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (YRsIm)

233 71 Maybe someone gave Fetterman a Baby Ruth.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 08, 2023 12:22 PM (sX1BW)

Did you mean snickers bar ?
Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 12:24 PM (MNhXM)

You should watch (or rewatch) The Goonies, it's a very good movie.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (lg881)

234 Isn't she the same one we had yesterday? The one who people said was too young?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:42 PM (CsUN+)

Looks lower 20s to me.

Agree. I didn't think the one yesterday looked too young.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (CsUN+)

235 Ukraine can get right behind Palestine in the line to suck off Mohammed's goat

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

236 Horse, barn door. There is no stopping what is going to happen on account of them millions that already came over the border. You will not recognize this country - or what is left of it - 20 years from now.

Not saying don't do anything about it, but... don't make the mistake of expecting that it actually matters anymore.
Posted by: somedood at December 08, 2023 12:40 PM (PHukT)
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Deportation needs to happen, too. But stopping the hemorrhage has to happen first.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (zxP/x)

237 Vitamin D is the new Vitamin C

Vitamin C is the fool's Vitamin D

Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (KRtlO)

238 230 Two-thirds of those killed in a war, purportedly against hamas, are women and children.

Remember that "children" includes 16, 17, and 18-year-old Hamas "fighters".

Same trick they play with the "gun violence" statistics, where a dead 17-year-old gangbanger becomes a dead "child".
Posted by: The Uniparty! at December 08, 2023 12:44 PM (YAtuc)

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Their government started a war against a superior force in an urban environment filled with civilians.

Maybe...don't do that?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (GBKbO)

239 Supplements? I'm taking some zinc picolinate, D3, B12, and iron (my most recent blood work said I was a tad anemic, despite eating more red meat and lots of other protein sources).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (J2vNu)

240 Democrat politicians are struggling to find a way to pas off the culture wars as normie vs nutty, with Democrats as the normies. Here, for example, is Minn. Governor Tm Walz (via DailyKos),

[It's] just the strange things they become obsessed with: demonizing our children, becoming obsessed with people's personal lives in their bedrooms, restricting freedoms. I'm surrounded by states who are spending their time figuring out how to ban "Charlotte's Web" in their schools, while we're banishing hunger from ours with free breakfast and lunch. That's what the public's looking for. That's what they're trying to get to.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (b36Zb)

241 Vitamin D is the new Vitamin C

Vitamin C is the fool's Vitamin D
Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (KRtlO)
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LOL
"Talking tough about vitamins" is not something I expected to read.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (zxP/x)

242 There was an interesting discussion about Ukraine in the latest Uncommon Knowledge where Robinson interviews two conservative IC experts.

On one side (Blumenthal) is the thinking that Taiwan security runs through the heart of Ukraine. If we back down there US allies will see it as a broken promise and abandon US -- Japan, Philippines, VN,...

On the other side (Colby) is a realization that we need to accept that we can not win two wars. I think Colby was part of the earlier dispute of switching Pentagon from a plan of losing two wars, to winning one in the past and is comfortable applying it now.

What they agreed on was
- Ukraine is vital to US security, but not necessarily because Russia is a big threat, but because we (biden) made a major commitment to defend them.
- Taiwan is vital to US because if China wins and controls Taiwan, the world economy will shift to one of Chinese dominance in technology, trade, etc. Not because Taiwan is inherently vital to US (it is) but because it is inherently vital to the world.
- The US is incapable of even fighting one war. We can not produce the ships, munitions, chips, etc. necessary and we are depleting stocks quickly. (tbc)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (4DEBm)

243 and lots of other protein sources).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (J2vNu)

*watches pitch sail lazily across the plate*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

244 You know who doesn't have coin wrappers anymore? Banks. The more you learn.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (MvF+J)

245 Fetterman is a MAGA sleeper agent.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (IwwlF)

246 LOL
"Talking tough about vitamins" is not something I expected to read.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (zxP/x)

Take your berberine, you pussy!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

247 I LOL'd at the link that Wolfus Aurelius posted on a previous thread with a picture of McConnell next to one of Granny Clampett,

She'd certainly get my vote to replace the Turtle.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (VbhSD)

248 I get my zinc supplement from gnawing on an old galvanized bucket.

Posted by: Buc-ee's Beaver at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (83IzV)

249 Finally the House Republicans are acting like the are the majority party. This play behind propping up Ukraine has nothing to do with saving "democracy", it is about propping up, well, who in the hell knows what the real reason Biden is so damn committed to what is a fight over a French fry dropped in parking lot between a big seagull and a little seagull. I have tried to figure out the US national interest in this war I keep coming up nothing and the argument that if Putin/Russia isn't stopped in Ukraine that Putin/Russia is going to confiscate Eastern Europe is ludacris on its face. Using the Putin/Russia initial Ukraine attack, a complete disaster, as a baseline for evaluation it is inconceivable that Putin/Russia could muster a military campaign at scale to defeat Eastern European armies and NATO unless nuclear weapons are involved, an equally goofy idea.

Balls to the walls: use the Southern border to stop the Ukraine madness and hopefully this will force Ukraine and Russia adjust the border and go back to what they do best: making billions through corruption.

Posted by: lost in space at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (Lqt5D)

250 Their government started a war against a superior force in an urban environment filled with civilians.

Maybe...don't do that?

The core of Hamas' strategy is to maximize Palestinian civilian casualties.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (YAtuc)

251 There will be no additional funding for Ukraine without first making extensive reforms to the U.S. immigration system

Yeah, no. That's not the same thing as protecting the border. Kabukakke.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (DTX3h)

252 Although, I think Ashwagandha is the new hotness.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (zZu0s)

253 203 >>>Pretty surprised The Turtle was on board with this packaging of border security with Ukraine funding. Even he can feel the heat through that tortoise shell I guess.

yeah that's a shock and I wonder what the catch is or what the betrayal will be. he can't be on the level.

I, too, was shocked. Shell shocked.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (VbhSD)

254 I am loathe to fact-check ace, even at his request.

Well, except for that whole mucus (n.) vs. mucous (adj.) thing. That was egregius...er...egregious!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (991eG)

255 Fetterman would absolutely run a guest post here if asked. Dude wouldn't even recognize a fuck to give if it grew out of his neck.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (9UlRk)

256 >>>Take your berberine, you pussy!

I'm out! Thanks for reminding me!

what the f*** does it do again? It's one of those things I take and I've completely forgotten why. I've got a bunch of things like that.

What the fuck is lion's mane, and why do I have that?

Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (KRtlO)

257 Their government started a war against a superior force in an urban environment filled with civilians.

Maybe...don't do that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
++++
Not at all. Hamas executed an incursion into rural Israeli territory. Israel has responded with a full armored invasion of densely-settle urban environments with no ability (or even desire) to deal with civilian presence. Once started, they indiscriminately hit civilian infrastructure like hospitals and mosques.

Posted by: Your Kid's Middle East Studies Professor at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (zxP/x)

258 They still are pushing the kids in cages as a Trump thing instead of Obama when it it was implemented.
Posted by: Drive By

Or the "muslim ban." The list for the travel ban was drawn up by the Obaka state dept and was not a ban on muslims considering it didn't ban travel from the most populous muslim countries.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (IG4Id)

259 124 cont.
The US would have to "fundamentally [un-]transform" the country and economy to be able to fight any war, which is coming.

It was a very disturbing and sobering discussion. It was a forlorn hope kind of thing where they were arguing over what will lead to our loss slower.

And they did not mention islam, border, commies, degeneracy, debt, .....

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (4DEBm)

260 I am loathe to fact-check ace, even at his request.

Well, except for that whole mucus (n.) vs. mucous (adj.) thing. That was egregius...er...egregious!
Posted by: Muldoon

Then there is getting hissed at by a cat. Mew-cuss.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:49 PM (JrojV)

261 Take your berberine, you pussy!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)
++++
No more backtalk! Drop and give me 5000 IUs! NOW, MAGGOT!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:49 PM (zxP/x)

262 I, too, was shocked. Shell shocked.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell

********

Dang near tortious behavior!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 12:49 PM (991eG)

263 Well, except for that whole mucus (n.) vs. mucous (adj.) thing. That was egregius...er...egregious!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 12:47 PM (991eG)

booger base

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2023 12:49 PM (AwYPR)

264 257 Not at all. Hamas executed an incursion into rural Israeli territory. Israel has responded with a full armored invasion of densely-settle urban environments with no ability (or even desire) to deal with civilian presence. Once started, they indiscriminately hit civilian infrastructure like hospitals and mosques.
Posted by: Your Kid's Middle East Studies Professor at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (zxP/x)

========

And this is while Hamas has its standing armies off to the side in an open field, right?

Right?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (GBKbO)

265 oh it lowers blood glucose?

Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (KRtlO)

266 172 Heh. The draft. Witnessed at the Cleveland Federal Building Induction Center. Eight guys who were pissed off about being drafted and then getting drafted into The Corps. Unluckiest bastards in Cuyahoga County.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (0EOe9)

If they keep their minds open and their yaps shut, they'll be fine.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (T4tVD)

267 what the f*** does it do again? It's one of those things I take and I've completely forgotten why. I've got a bunch of things like that.

What the fuck is lion's mane, and why do I have that?
Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (KRtlO)

Berberine is the one that is supposed to aid in blood sugar control (also has a list of other benefits like sex drive and other things, but I think that is supposed to be a function of the blood sugar control.)

IIRC, Berg had a video talking about it being a better equivalent to metformin- without the side effects.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (zZu0s)

268 SHOCKING: 20% of Americans between the ages of 18-29 think the Holocaust is a myth

-
And also that Trump is Putin's agent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

269 oh it lowers blood glucose?
Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (KRtlO)

***

Super Beets

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (ZV+pB)

270 The Democrats also know that they can lie and say The Border Is Closed because the MSM will continue to give them a pass.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (NpAcC)

271 What the fuck is lion's mane, and why do I have that?

it assists cognition and mushrooms in general boost the production of NK cells

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (dCxaZ)

272 246 Take your berberine, you pussy!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

"SWALLOW THE F***ING B12 OR I SHATTER YOUR ORBITAL BONE!"

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (sm6Pk)

273 Well, except for that whole mucus (n.) vs. mucous (adj.) thing. That was egregius...er...egregious!
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023

***
"Somebody blows their nose and you want to keep it. . . .
Here, Egon. Here's your mucus."

Posted by: Peter Venkman at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (J2vNu)

274 SHOCKING: 20% of Americans between the ages of 18-29 think the Holocaust is a myth

-
And also that Trump is Putin's agent.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

And that rape at Bergdorf's is sexy.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (2ocoG)

275 $100Billion.

🤡

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (Rbu5d)

276 >>>
Super Beets

no that lowers blood pressure but it actually has a fair amount of sugar in it.

Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (KRtlO)

277 ... if they don't appropriate more money for Zelensky, "we'll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia." Pay the oligarchs or we'll kill your kids.

-------------

"And we will replace your dead uncles, cousins, and sons with millions more illegal aliens. Win-Win, comrades!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (dbxe7)

278 So now it's a vitamin thread?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (JrojV)

279 Lions Mane is good for the penis no?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (ZV+pB)

280 I always get a cold or worse when I go off the shrooms

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (dCxaZ)

281 "Mucus is a notoriously challenging substance to study because it exhibits both liquid-like and solid-like properties"

https://tinyurl.com/fantfzza

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (MvF+J)

282 Afternoon Ace, glad you are feeling better. Smart military blog "now with more cold remedies" . Pretty good feature

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 08, 2023 12:52 PM (wukIh)

283 266 By coincidence, we had two draftees in my platoon at PI. After the initial harassment by the Drill Instructors, they did just fine. Also, we had two Canucks in the platoon. Came south just for the fun I guess.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 12:53 PM (0EOe9)

284 beets is what doozers make buildings out of

Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:53 PM (KRtlO)

285 What the fuck is lion's mane, and why do I have that?
Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (KRtlO)

I thought lions mane was a substance used in a Sherlock Holmes murder.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 08, 2023 12:53 PM (hCt6Y)

286 Berberine is the one that is supposed to aid in blood sugar control (also has a list of other benefits like sex drive and other things, but I think that is supposed to be a function of the blood sugar control.)

IIRC, Berg had a video talking about it being a better equivalent to metformin- without the side effects.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023

***
** Scribbles furiously on shopping list **

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:53 PM (J2vNu)

287 1200mg of berberine for 4 months decreased the plaque in arteries according to one study

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 12:53 PM (dCxaZ)

288 What the fuck is lion's mane, and why do I have that?
Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins

Lion's mane? On a beach in England? Obviously the words of a delirious man...

Posted by: Dr. Watson at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (VbhSD)

289 Christopher Plummer referred to the movie in which he co-starred with Julie Andrews as "The Sound of Mucus."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (JrojV)

290 "SWALLOW THE F***ING B12 OR I SHATTER YOUR ORBITAL BONE!"
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 12:51 PM (sm6Pk)

B1 (well, all the Bs, honestly) is one I saw some good benefit out of.

Then I heard an ancient (probably 40s or 50s) commercial touting the benefits of 'ironized yeast.' Yeast is a good source of B1.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (zZu0s)

291 i think lion's mane is for focus and maybe for getting deep sleep or rem sleep.

Posted by: ace talking tough about vitamins at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (KRtlO)

292 Heh. The draft. Witnessed at the Cleveland Federal Building Induction Center. Eight guys who were pissed off about being drafted and then getting drafted into The Corps. Unluckiest bastards in Cuyahoga County.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 12:43 PM (0EOe9)

Bil said entire room counted off by 4....#3s go thru yonder door...Marines now.

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (AwYPR)

293 There are really only a handful of vitamins you need to supplement, specifically ones that you can't get through diet.

The Big Shots at Big Vitamin have been pushing supplement for decades.

MAKE PEE CLEAR AGAIN!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (rc3Z7)

294 Trying to remember where I saw berberine available in a store recently. Tar-zhay, maybe?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (J2vNu)

295 Just got back from walking doggeh. I see this is a health thread?

Just got my home bp monitor delivered today. Went for a check up earlier this week for first time in years. Turns out I've got the hypertension. Would explain a great many things.

Yay?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (N3zMI)

296 No love for Vitamitavegemin?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:55 PM (JrojV)

297 259 124 cont.
The US would have to "fundamentally [un-]transform" the country and economy to be able to fight any war, which is coming.

It was a very disturbing and sobering discussion. It was a forlorn hope kind of thing where they were arguing over what will lead to our loss slower.

And they did not mention islam, border, commies, degeneracy, debt, .....
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 12:48 PM (4DEBm)

———-

A massive American military defeat may be our only chance at reforming the government.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 08, 2023 12:55 PM (IwwlF)

298 I take beet root capsules. Far less expensive than Super Beets or the others. I can put on the cuff, check the BP, take the capsules with a little food, and an hour later get a drop in BP.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 12:55 PM (0EOe9)

299 294 Trying to remember where I saw berberine available in a store recently. Tar-zhay, maybe?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:54 PM (J2vNu)

There are a bunch on amazon.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:55 PM (zZu0s)

300 "SHOCKING: 20% of Americans between the ages of 18-29 think the Holocaust is a myth"

And most of the rest have never heard of it, or very briefly at most. Not 5% ever cracked a book about it. Sort of like Nazis and Hitler.

Posted by: Ripley at December 08, 2023 12:56 PM (JojsZ)

301 In light of current blog events, I think Ace needs to put his Lamont the Big Dummy hat back on.

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 08, 2023 12:56 PM (wNDOJ)

302 187 This busty redhead wants a closed border and mass deportations:
https://is.gd/pJXfCr
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (zxP/x)

That's just because she's a ginger and has no soul...

Posted by: Inogame at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (53oGX)

303 The US will never win another war... even if our very survival is at stake

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (ZV+pB)

304 >>So, back in 2022 when Putin made an odd speech accussing the US of having a multitude of laboratories throughout Ukraine developing biologicals, and dangerous experiments, it might not have been just Putin being Putin.

It was not. The contract to build the labs went to Black & Vietch. Hunter was invested in a company called Metabiota which does virus tracking. They coincidentally got government contracts to track virus outbreaks in both Wuhan and Ukraine.

We also were building a biolab in Kazakhstan. That fell apart when the color revolution we were running in Kazakhstan was stopped by Putin sending in troops. After he put it down Putin very publicly said he would not allow anymore color revolutions in former Soviet states. He specifically used the term color revolutions which he knows very well given that we have run a number of them in former Soviet states including Ukraine.

Oddly, that didn't get a lot of coverage in the US media.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (ZLI7S)

305 I thought lions mane was a substance used in a Sherlock Holmes murder.
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 08, 2023

***
I thought one of teh short stories had "lion's mane" in it. Lemme look.

Yes! There was -- a late story published in 1926! It's one that Holmes narrates himself, not Watson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (J2vNu)

306
242 cont. cont.

It is notable that both Ukraine and Taiwan are self-made problems. If we had not committed to defend them, this would all be a none issue. So what if Russia is a little bigger.

If we had not allowed (encouraged!) offshoring of our chip industry, then Taiwan would be a minor issue of China having a more potential to break out of first island chain.

This, on top of the fact that the whole China problem is self-made since Clinton, ... allowed them to steal all our IP.

Also of note, they seem to agree that Ukraine was also pivotal in making the world (Japan) understand that the old security just no longer exists. Pax Americana is dead. Countries can invade neighbors now. This I think should have been f-cking obvious back in 2004, but it changes the world. (It should also have been obvious what China was up to back at the Hainan Island Incident. Some still don't get it but they agree that China plans to rule the world, and a very different type of rule than the US has done.)

We are still operating under the old rules. Under the new rules, you close borders, restrict trade, and treat every foreign encounter as a potential threat.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (4DEBm)

307 Deportation needs to happen, too. But stopping the hemorrhage has to happen first.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Absolutely. Leaving millions of illegals leads to insanity like DACA or cocked up ideas about handing out citizenship like Pez candies. Today the situation is magnitudes worse with 10%, maybe more, of the population being illegal. This is a cancer that eats away at everything. Deportation is a necessary part of restoring some semblance that the US is a nation state and not a dumping ground for every poorly run nation's excess population.

Posted by: lost in space at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (Lqt5D)

308 There will be no additional funding for Ukraine without first making extensive reforms to the U.S. immigration system, House Speaker Mike Johnson told President Biden.

------------

Late to the party and I'm sure the point has already been made, but: WE DON'T NEED ANY FUCKING REFORMS -- WHICH WILL BE IGNORED BY THE JUNTA REGARDLESS -- WHAT WE NEED IS THE EXISTING LAWS ENFORCED OR IMPEACH THE MOTHERFUCKER FOR INFINITE CRIMES EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND DEFUND EVERY FEDERAL AGENCY IMMEDIATELY!

I feel better now ... thanks for your indulgence.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (dbxe7)

309 70% of 18 year olds are Democrats. I’d love to see a draft enacted by a Democrat administration for the lulz alone.
Posted by: Montec
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Mixed emotions. The military is already seriously degraded, the conscription of above-described types, commanded by a milquetoast command structure might not be very robust, or even commandable.

Americans in the 60's still had a sense of heritage and loyalty to the country. That sense of loyalty barely exists now, it has been superceded by a sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (XeU6L)

310 Just goes to show you, even a brain damaged retard is smarter than your average Democrat.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:17 PM (FVME7)

lol

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (Rbu5d)

311 And if there's one thing we know about the modern Democrats, it's that they respect the hell out of the military.
*rolls eyes*
Posted by: Archimedes

How they spell RESPECT:
Hillary: Hey Marine! Pass out these cookies.
Obama: Hey Marine! Stand in the rain and hold this umbrella over me.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (CErKY)

312 Johnson is a sellout. Can I get 7 friends to help me and the Democrats to get rid of him?

Posted by: Matt Gaetz's Tiny Brain at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (sTg9F)

313 That's just because she's a ginger and has no soul...
Posted by: Inogame

Not true. She steals them on a regular basis. One for each breast.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (JrojV)

314 Trying to remember where I saw berberine available in a store recently. Tar-zhay, maybe?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023
*
There are a bunch on amazon.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023

***
Saw those earlier this year, but I mean I actually think I spotted the stuff for sale in a store.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (J2vNu)

315 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 12:45 PM (4DEBm)
---
Except we and Ukraine are not winning.

I now read all the big talk when it started on how Putin planned to win in 3 months as opposite:
We had to win in three months.

Now all we're doing is doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on a multi-billion dollar loss.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (TzW+Y)

316 O/T to RedMindBlueState:
I attended the funeral of our mutual friend, the Deacon, earlier today. Remembered you and RMBS Mom to him at the final goodbye. It was a beautiful service.

Posted by: LadyS at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (oq25h)

317 Take your berberine, you pussy!

I'm out! Thanks for reminding me!
what the f*** does it do again?
Posted by: ace

********
I don't know about you, but:

It's got me rockin' and a-rollin', rockin' and a-reelin' Berberine!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (991eG)

318 As I said this morning, Austin's statement may be one of the most despicable things FJB has done. "Pay me and my cronies or your children will die."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (7fElN)

Couldn't agree more.
that statement of his actually DID shock me. It's so low, evil, and despicable (as you said). Shocking.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (Rbu5d)

319 Ber ber, ber berberine

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (991eG)

320 Biden: "I am willing to make significant compromises on the border."
______

Folks, my compromise is, for one week the invasion to 10,000 military age males instead of the usual number. The continued levels of child trafficking however is non-negotiable.
- Grampa Joe Biden

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (fs1hN)

321 190 >>> I take 6000 IUs of vitamin D every day. There is no way to get enough Vitamin D in the winter in New England. You should make it part of your daily routine.

i usually do, I was just sure of it when i got sick.

my doctor just suggested taking D daily too, so doctors seem to be catching up with what the public knows
Posted by: ace at December 08, 2023 12:38 PM (KRtlO)

D and K are a good combined vitamin. D is fat soluble so you need to take it with a meal to be most effective. Not all vitamins need to be taken with meals, some are water soluble and can be taken any time. Need to watch zinc intake, you can start to have issues if you take too much consitantly.

Posted by: Inogame at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (53oGX)

322 And now, a word from Dr. Hunter . . .

RNC Research
@RNCResearch
Hunter Biden calls @elonmusk a "very damaged human being" and claims Musk is "culpable" in spreading misinformation against him

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (FVME7)

323 311 And if there's one thing we know about the modern Democrats, it's that they respect the hell out of the military.
*rolls eyes*
Posted by: Archimedes

How they spell RESPECT:
Hillary: Hey Marine! Pass out these cookies.
Obama: Hey Marine! Stand in the rain and hold this umbrella over me.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2023 12:58 PM (CErKY)

I 'think' they believe that since they captured the military, that a draft would serve as an indoctrination source.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (zZu0s)

324 "Americans in the 60's still had a sense of heritage and loyalty to the country. That sense of loyalty barely exists now, it has been superceded by a sense of entitlement."

It has been superseded mainly by the recent discovery that the fed govt hates the living guts of the citizenry.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at December 08, 2023 01:00 PM (MvF+J)

325 "Mixed emotions. The military is already seriously degraded, the conscription of above-described types, commanded by a milquetoast command structure might not be very robust, or even commandable."

*ponders the need for dismounts*

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2023 01:00 PM (EadwG)

326 "Immigration reform" means Amnesty.. I fear even to some "republicans".

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:00 PM (n2vyf)

327 Couldn't agree more.
that statement of his actually DID shock me. It's so low, evil, and despicable (as you said). Shocking.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (Rbu5d)

While also being completely believable. These really are shit people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:00 PM (zZu0s)

328 41 So Fetterman is actually a Conservative Manchurian Candidate? This script is wild.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 08, 2023 12:20 PM (ntk8v)

Weirdest timeline ever.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 01:01 PM (Rbu5d)

329 my doctor just suggested taking D daily too, so doctors seem to be catching up with what the public knows

My doctor put me on a weekly Vitamin D prescription in 2018 and I never got covid. But I do still get "normal" colds/flus.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:01 PM (2ocoG)

330 Now all we're doing is doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on a multi-billion dollar loss.
______

Loss?

Posted by: Raytheon Stockholders and Congressmen on Payroll at December 08, 2023 01:01 PM (fs1hN)

331 I take daily doses of vitamins V, O, D, K, and A.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:01 PM (JrojV)

332 303 The US will never win another war... even if our very survival is at stake
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 08, 2023 12:57 PM (ZV+pB)

Our Government doesn't WANT to win another war, because "Population Control".

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 01:01 PM (sm6Pk)

333 309 I can't think of how many in my senior class enlisted. Patriotism in the 60s, or maybe get it over with because your friends and neighbors might send you a letter. Senior high bullshitting in my area included "well, I might as well go because they're going to get me anyway, and even if I don't go, some poor fucker would have to go in my place".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 01:02 PM (0EOe9)

334 @RNCResearch
Hunter Biden calls @elonmusk a "very damaged human being" and claims Musk is "culpable" in spreading misinformation against him
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Heh. The 'Protests Too Much' warning light on my dashboard just came on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2023 01:02 PM (XeU6L)

335 331 From the Valu-Rite pharmacy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:02 PM (JrojV)

336 Now all we're doing is doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on a multi-billion dollar loss.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Bingo.

It is the dem strategy - commit to unnecessary war, make sure you lose, but lose as slowly as possible. This has to be intentional for graft.

Even Putin is calling it America's new Vietnam. He's right.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:02 PM (4DEBm)

337 Hunter Biden calls @elonmusk a "very damaged human being" and claims Musk is "culpable" in spreading misinformation against him
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (FVME7)

Sounds like slander to me

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:02 PM (n2vyf)

338 As I said this morning, Austin's statement may be one of the most despicable things FJB has done. "Pay me and my cronies or your children will die."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (7fElN)

Couldn't agree more.
that statement of his actually DID shock me. It's so low, evil, and despicable (as you said). Shocking.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper

That sums up exactly the mind set of the entirety of the Biden administration. They have zero interest in governing for the good of the nation, they only objective expanding their political power permanently and if that means they need to kill your kids, so be it serf.

Posted by: lost in space at December 08, 2023 01:03 PM (Lqt5D)

339 331 I am presently including that in my regimen with vitamin V8.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (0EOe9)

340 "SHOCKING: 20% of Americans between the ages of 18-29 think the Holocaust is a myth"

And most of the rest have never heard of it, or very briefly at most. Not 5% ever cracked a book about it. Sort of like Nazis and Hitler.
Posted by: Ripley

The real crisis is global warming and they've all heard of that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (FVME7)

341 338 As I said this morning, Austin's statement may be one of the most despicable things FJB has done. "Pay me and my cronies or your children will die."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 12:18 PM (7fElN)

Why should we fight Ukraines war ? They're not even a NATO member... Let Europe handle it it's in their area

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (n2vyf)

342 Over at Insty:
WELL, GOOD: Arthritis drug baricitinib may help patients with Type 1 diabetes.

Me: not exactly a catchy name.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (zZu0s)

343 Maybe all the Muslims coming over the border will be good mercenaries for the USA
signed
Zombie Osama

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (L/sed)

344 Couldn't agree more.
that statement of his actually DID shock me. It's so low, evil, and despicable (as you said). Shocking.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 12:59 PM (Rbu5d)
++++
It's not the first time. Treasury Secretary Paulson did the same thing in 2008. Literally the same thing - except he did it open session.

He said that if Congress didn't bail out the financial system (TARP, TALF, etc.), then there would be "tanks in the streets" - implying that if the banks didn't get access to the Treasury, then the government would have to impose martial law.

Well, he got the money.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (zxP/x)

345 The Doyle story, "The Adventure of the Lion's Mane," sounds pretty good in synopsis, with Holmes making an erroneous early conclusion and revising it later. The Ellery Queen cousins might well have seen this storynad the other 1920s tales a couple of years before they wrote the first EQ novel.

Of course, to have a "true" Holmes adventure, we need to have Watson too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 01:05 PM (J2vNu)

346 "I took vitamin D and vitamin K plus zinc and a multivitamin with D, C, various B's, and elderberry, which I think is supposed to help deliver the other vitamins into the cells instead of being urinated out as waste..."

After my breast cancer diagnosis, I found a book that extolled the value of vitamins D and K for that very reason. I take them to be sure the calcium and other vitamins stay where they're supposed to. Vitamin K is a powerhouse that a lot of people don't know about.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 08, 2023 01:05 PM (XPM1I)

347 The only thing I know about super beets is that Dana Loesch is hawt.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 08, 2023 01:05 PM (ufFY8)

348 The key to good health and long life begins and ends with Ringer's Lactate.

Posted by: Squad 51 at December 08, 2023 01:06 PM (83IzV)

349 Vitamin K is a powerhouse that a lot of people don't know about.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 08, 2023 01:05 PM (XPM1I)

My Husband has started taking K, but I'm not sure I can since I'm on blood thinners though it is Eliquis... Gotta ask My Cardiologist

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:06 PM (n2vyf)

350 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (FVME7)

Thinking back on it... even back in the 70's when I was in school, I don't remember being taught much about ANY war... beginning and end dates... but that was about it.

I certainly don't remember ever being taught about the horrors of the Holocaust.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:06 PM (xaFKb)

351 Why should we fight Ukraines war ? They're not even a NATO member... Let Europe handle it it's in their area
Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:04 PM (n2vyf)

I have said this before: the zeal with which they are pursuing this one still takes me by surprise. To me, Ukraine smelled like an op from the beginning. It felt fake. Yet so many seemed to fall in line. Now even that seems to have cooled, but yet they keep pushing it.

I keep thinking 'There is something about this we do not know.' It has to be more than just graft, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (zZu0s)

352 321 190 >>> I take 6000 IUs of vitamin D every day. There is no way to get enough Vitamin D in the winter in New England. You should make it part of your daily routine.

NOT JUST NEW ENGLAND

above about the 35, 40th parallel, so most of the US.
UVB drops to zero when the sun is below about 40 degrees. So you get no UVB except for the midday hours of summer. A little in spring and fall, but not for most people since they are inside. between 40 and 90 degrees, the drop off is about linear (not really but it is a fair estimate.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (4DEBm)

353 lionsmane is a mushroom that is supposed to help in general health and immune response, a lot of the Koreans my wife knows swear by it.

Personally I take Boron as well as D to help my joints. It seems to help my "ow I spent too many years doing construction and working in the cold and wet" fingers

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (D7oie)

354 Austin's statement may be one of the most despicable things FJB has done.

I kinda doubt the accuracy of the reporting. The hawks have been saying the whole time that funding this war is a substitute for fighting Russia ourselves, and that if Putin is not stopped here, we'll eventually have to fight him elsewhere. Now, I think that's a load of hooey, but I could see Austin expressing that sentiment, inartfully perhaps, as "fund or fight, those are the only choices." I doubt he said, "Gimme my money or I'll start WWIII." I just don't believe that.

Posted by: I'm skeptical of this narrative at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (pjs7m)

355 Notice Austin said YOUR uncles, brothers, and sons. Not his. Or any of his associates. YOURS.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 01:08 PM (R4t5M)

356 I was taking a LOT of supplement pills but now that I've started a medicinal/herbal/tea garden am trying to move to teas instead. it's way cheaper and I know how the things were grown and what's in the tea. I think some things are more active this way as well. But some things like Serropterase and Nattokinase (for my spike detox) are from mushrooms which I'm not growing, so I buy those in pill form. And high concentrations of Vitamin D are easier taken as pills too.

but make tea of burdock root, artemisia (wormwood), chamomile, and some others, depending on need and season. this is burdock root season lol, it's for immune support.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:08 PM (AcWfM)

357 Posted by: I'm skeptical of this narrative at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (pjs7m)

Remember this is the guy that wore both a mask and a face shield.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:09 PM (MNhXM)

358 Johnson needs to write an immigration bill that deletes every instance of this sort of crap in existing immigration laws:
"The Secretary of DHS is empowered to exercise discretion to..."

That may be all that's needed. However, the Junta will cheat no matter what laws are passed beginning at this point in time.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:09 PM (5fDan)

359 Remember this is the guy that wore both a mask and a face shield.
Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:09 PM (MNhXM)

And I believe he still got Covid

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:09 PM (n2vyf)

360 Yet so many seemed to fall in line. Now even that seems to have cooled, but yet they keep pushing it.
______

Stop kissing Putin's ASS!
-Brian Kilmeade, Fox News

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2023 01:10 PM (fs1hN)

361 Serropterase

***
The winged dinosaurs from Jurassic Park III?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 08, 2023 01:10 PM (J2vNu)

362 I doubt he said, "Gimme my money or I'll start WWIII." I just don't believe that.
Posted by: I'm skeptical of this narrative at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (pjs7m)
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Yeah, he probably didn't say it in so many words, but that was definitely the subtext, no matter what he actually said.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:10 PM (7fElN)

363 I keep thinking 'There is something about this we do not know.' It has to be more than just graft, right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:07 PM (zZu0s)

The USG and a number of "volunteer" groups are focused on getting the correct message out. They coalesced with the idea of never letting 2016 elections happen ever again, and became useful in Covid, and even more important in preserving massive grifts and keeping the marks quiet.

Oh, and the biolabs and the massive corruption and kickbacks, but mostly the suppression of any opposing ideas.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2023 01:10 PM (D7oie)

364 Johnson needs to write an immigration bill that deletes every instance of this sort of crap in existing immigration laws:
"The Secretary of DHS is empowered to exercise discretion to..."

If SCOTUS kills Chevron deference, that would go a long way towards effectively killing that kind of language.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:11 PM (2ocoG)

365 Sometimes, I wish for George Patton to come back and start slapping military guys around again. Only the higher-ups instead of some poor infantryman.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:11 PM (JrojV)

366 Looking at sidebar item about embattled U Penn president Magill.

Governor Shapiro also called for her resignation -again - when he went to their Hillel Center for a menorah lighting ceremony.

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:11 PM (dCxaZ)

367 "I don't want to spend another nickel on it, and Russia is welcome to take the whole fucking corrupt Biden-bribing country."
........

My sentiments exactly, Ace.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:12 PM (v0R5T)

368 366 Looking at sidebar item about embattled U Penn president Magill.

it's utterly shameless how she is clinging to her (undeserved) job. she's one awful AWFL.

and good for the Governor.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:12 PM (AcWfM)

369
It doesn't matter how much money is sent to Ukraine. They aren't going to win, defined as driving Russia out of the occupied areas.

The best they could hope for is a negotiated end to the war. The US has prevented that, because this is all about creating a distraction, and the skim. The reason for the outrage in Congress is because their skim money is being withheld.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 08, 2023 01:12 PM (QKfZJ)

370 Sometimes, I wish for George Patton to come back and start slapping military guys around again. Only the higher-ups instead of some poor infantryman.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:11 PM (JrojV)

Now there's a conspiracy theory I've taken a second look at.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:12 PM (MNhXM)

371 70% of 18 year olds are Democrats. I’d love to see a draft enacted by a Democrat administration for the lulz alone.
Posted by: Montec

In our gender fluid society, that should include all females having to register. We are women, hear us roar!! Unless I can't wear my false eyelashes, nails, give up my OF account, and, you know, like actually fight.

Posted by: Cheri at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (oiNtH)

372 Oddly, that didn't get a lot of coverage in the US media.
Posted by: JackStraw

But don't confuse graft with evil intent.

The boilabs were a major graft revenue stream. Deemed necessary for national security (long story) they were ready cash for grifters

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (4DEBm)

373 it's utterly shameless how she is clinging to her (undeserved) job. she's one awful AWFL.

According to insider leaks, both she and Gay at Harvard were hired solely to satisfy DIE demands.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (2ocoG)

374 Fetterman is talking sense because they removed his second head that was confusing him.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (v0R5T)

375 Governor Shapiro also called for her resignation -again - when he went to their Hillel Center for a menorah lighting ceremony.
Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:11 PM (dCxaZ)

I don't want to see another video of her unless she is crying.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (D7oie)

376 If SCOTUS kills Chevron deference, that would go a long way towards effectively killing that kind of language.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:11 PM (2ocoG)

We need a law the limits Prosecutorial Discretion. Its another thing created by the Courts, that is nowhere in Law nor the Constitution.

In fact, all the oaths talk about faithfully executing the Law... not ignoring the laws you don't like.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (xaFKb)

377 Now there's a conspiracy theory I've taken a second look at.
Posted by: Drive By

That Patton was offed?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (JrojV)

378 According to insider leaks, both she and Gay at Harvard were hired solely to satisfy DIE demands.

and the bint at MIT?!?

or was that nepotism?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (AcWfM)

379 >>Governor Shapiro also called for her resignation -again - when he went to their Hillel Center for a menorah lighting ceremony.

Too bad he couldn't be troubled to speak out about the obvious corruption in his state's elections. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who only care about the doing the right thing when it personally affects them.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

380 In our gender fluid society, that should include all females having to register. We are women, hear us roar!! Unless I can't wear my false eyelashes, nails, give up my OF account, and, you know, like actually fight.

The Pentagon ruled 2 or 3 years ago now that if a draft comes back, it's based on your OEM junk, not any aftermarket accessories. So M to F trannies would be required to serve, but F to Ms would not.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (2ocoG)

381 I would support a draft. ALL THE KIDS. Girls, boys and the its. All of them. No exceptions.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (7jhbw)

382 Probably the graft and the biolabs.

I am guessing it is far worse than we imagined.

Look at the flak over that target.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (ufFY8)

383 I don't want to see another video of her unless she is crying.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2023 01:13 PM (D7oie)

her compensation package is 23MM/yr

she'll prolly file for UC if she gets canned tho'

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (dCxaZ)

384 Too bad he couldn't be troubled to speak out about the obvious corruption in his state's elections. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who only care about the doing the right thing when it personally affects them.

Jack our corruption plays out for Rs and Ds alike. not that it wouldn't be fantastic for him to address it! but an R governor wouldn't address it either. the Rs here also depend on it.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (AcWfM)

385 We passed a bill a few years ago that was hotly debated to give Israel 3 billion in aid per year for 10 years . Seems like peanuts for the 100 billion we've already given Ukraine in only a few years and a 100 billion more they want to give.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (MNhXM)

386 Any university presidents ousted will be replaced by worse university presidents.

Posted by: the way it is at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (SYTee)

387 "I don't want to spend another nickel on it, and Russia is welcome to take the whole fucking corrupt Biden-bribing country."
____

Why would I want something the US so royally screwed up? Keep it and keep the fool Zelensky. May it continue to drain the US treasury.
- Putin, probably

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (fs1hN)

388 355 Notice Austin said YOUR uncles, brothers, and sons. Not his. Or any of his associates. YOURS.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 01:08 PM (R4t5M)

What an idjit! Few current Senators have live uncles, or brothers young enough to load an M16 without assistance.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (5fDan)

389 Imagine the sheer irony of recommending megadoses of trace elements.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (991eG)

390 her compensation package is 23MM/yr

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (dCxaZ)

Good money if you can get it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (zZu0s)

391 "and the bint at MIT?!?"

MIT had Angela Davis give a speech last February. I hate so much to see that great school go down the shitter.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at December 08, 2023 01:16 PM (MvF+J)

392 The Pentagon ruled 2 or 3 years ago now that if a draft comes back, it's based on your OEM junk, not any aftermarket accessories. So M to F trannies would be required to serve, but F to Ms would not.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (2ocoG)
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Hmmm. Will that cause a civil war among the tranny brigade?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:16 PM (7fElN)

393 386 Any university presidents ousted will be replaced by worse university presidents.

fine

but do it anyway

pour encourager les autres

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:16 PM (AcWfM)

394 389 Imagine the sheer irony of recommending megadoses of trace elements.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (991eG)

listen to him- he's post Med!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:16 PM (zZu0s)

395 MIT had Angela Davis give a speech last February. I hate so much to see that great school go down the shitter.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead

They had Noam Chomsky on the faculty for years.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (JrojV)

396 >>The boilabs were a major graft revenue stream. Deemed necessary for national security (long story) they were ready cash for grifters

US biolab investments are mostly controlled by the DOD and CIA. That's why Fauci has been protected for so long. He's the public face because the DOD and CIA want him to be and they will not allow their pet to be harmed or they will be exposed.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (ZLI7S)

397 Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

I'm not stressing over the finer points. We finally have two executive level politicians in PA who are coming out on the right side of things even though they're demorats.

Demorats bringing the pain to other demorats.

who knows, maybe this will cause enough fractionization within that cursed party to make it viable for gop to defeat the steal

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (dCxaZ)

398
I just spent about an hour and a half watching EP 46 of Tucker Carlson on YouTube with Alex Jones. Highly recommended. YouTube is somehow hiding it from search results but if you start at the link below you should be able to find all three parts.

https://www.youtube.com/@angryteacher6

Alex Jones is definitely warning about sleeper cells coming across the border and being activated.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (enJYY)

399 The Pentagon ruled 2 or 3 years ago now that if a draft comes back, it's based on your OEM junk, not any aftermarket accessories. So M to F trannies would be required to serve, but F to Ms would not.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (2ocoG)
++++
Women should be part of the Selective Service system. Even if they aren't put in combat roles, they should be drafted. Plenty of non-combat roles. Women can be nurses and stevedores and the like.

But if they have the vote, they should be in the system and drafted alongside the men.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (zxP/x)

400 I hear you, Muldoon! that's why I'm backing off the supplements and trying to focus on what I'm eating, plus drinking teas (using recipes from long ago).

AND NO SUGAR

No sugar - sucrose, and reduced fructose as well, and no fake sugar chemicals - is the KEY.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (AcWfM)

401 "Fetterman is talking sense because they removed his second head that was confusing him."

__________

The one with the face on it?

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (wNDOJ)

402 I am guessing it is far worse than we imagined.

Look at the flak over that target.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 08, 2023 01:14 PM (ufFY

they took over and cloned SOVIET BIOWEAPON LABS

You know, the people who knew they had an arms and missile deficit

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (D7oie)

403 70% of 18 year olds are Democrats. I’d love to see a draft enacted by a Democrat administration for the lulz alone.
Posted by: Montec

In our gender fluid society, that should include all females having to register. We are women, hear us roar!! Unless I can't wear my false eyelashes, nails, give up my OF account, and, you know, like actually fight.
Posted by: Cheri

Those that refuse are relegated to 2nd class citizens.
You want, nay, demand equality? You get equality.

Straight across the board. That includes Selective Service registration.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (ous9O)

404 I keep thinking 'There is something about this we do not know.' It has to be more than just graft, right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I think graft is a big part of it.
I think admitting they screwed up so bad in both dangling NATO to Ukraine, not giving them defense weapons, not taking Russia seriously, and not seeing what Germany and Russia were up to is another big part of it. They want to fix their past errors before anyone notices.

Also I think they discount the opposition as "russian propaganda" and they have this crazy overreaction to Russia. Their base thinks Russia got Trump elected. They can never admit that Russia is not a threat beyond the border of NATO.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (4DEBm)

405 The three presidents all wear smaht glasses of varying colors. They smaht.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (v0R5T)

406 Women should be part of the Selective Service system. Even if they aren't put in combat roles, they should be drafted. Plenty of non-combat roles. Women can be nurses and stevedores and the like.

But if they have the vote, they should be in the system and drafted alongside the men.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (zxP/x)
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That's just crazy talk!

Posted by: R. Heinlein at December 08, 2023 01:19 PM (7fElN)

407 Imagine the sheer irony of recommending megadoses of trace elements.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2023 01:15 PM (991eG)

-----------

Like going full EV-retard using batteries that require rare earth metals.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 01:20 PM (G53Ph)

408 Alex Jones is definitely warning about sleeper cells coming across the border and being activated.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (enJYY)

I've already posted here about 100 chinese immigrants at a gun range in Lancaster County

they weren't sporting pea shooters

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)

409 But if they have the vote, they should be in the system and drafted alongside the men.

yeah switch that around - no vote no SS - that would help in so many ways

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:20 PM (AcWfM)

410 The only thing I know about super beets is that Dana Loesch is hawt.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 08, 2023 01:05 PM (ufFY

......

I bought some, they taste horrible, but Dana still gives me a chubby.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:20 PM (v0R5T)

411 >>Fetterman is talking sense because they removed his second head that was confusing him

Open your minnnnnnd

Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2023 01:21 PM (ZLI7S)

412 There was a coup to overthrow a legitimately elected pro Russia government where the leaders prior to be coup refused to another internationally monitored election . Once they overthrew the government they immediately outlawed everything Russian, even the use of the language. This on top of shelling ethnic Russian Ukrainian enclaves. In addition to poking the bear even more crossing Putin's line in the sand by campaigning to become a NATO member.

Russia didn't just attack Soro's supported Ukraine out of the blue.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:21 PM (MNhXM)

413 Yeah, everyone should be in the selective service. I'd much rather have a traditionalist society where that wasn't the case. But having abandoned that, everyone should be included now.

And while I can't quite say I'd support a draft in terms of being enthusiastic about it, I do think it would be helpful for Americans to experience their foreign-policy choices firsthand.

Posted by: Bet twitter profiles would lack those cute little blue/yellow flags in short order at December 08, 2023 01:21 PM (pjs7m)

414 US biolab investments are mostly controlled by the DOD and CIA. That's why Fauci has been protected for so long. He's the public face because the DOD and CIA want him to be and they will not allow their pet to be harmed or they will be exposed.
Posted by: JackStraw

Exactly.
And the best graft is the DoD and CIA graft. They expect to pay 3x for anything they fund.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:21 PM (4DEBm)

415 Women should be part of the Selective Service system. Even if they aren't put in combat roles, they should be drafted. Plenty of non-combat roles. Women can be nurses and stevedores and the like.

But if they have the vote, they should be in the system and drafted alongside the men.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Equality is a Stone. Cold. Bitch.

You want the rights? You take the responsibilities.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2023 01:21 PM (ous9O)

416 400 And if you take supplements, eat, even a little to assure absorption. I haven't been a big breakfast eater in decades (two smokes and a cuppa joe) but now I'll have at least a hard boiled egg with my morning handful of pills, some supplements, some prescribed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 01:22 PM (0EOe9)

417 yeah switch that around - no vote no SS - that would help in so many ways
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2023 01:20 PM (AcWfM)
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Whichever. Granting women the vote but not compelling them to register for the draft was a very bad idea.

It is also why women's suffrage didn't have broad support among women at the time. A lot of women assumed that if they got the vote, they'd be drafted (and drafts were more common at that time, not just for war). Not worth the tradeoff. Their fears were unfounded. They got the vote without the draft, and it never should have happened.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:22 PM (zxP/x)

418 Yea but Trump said pussy... So you have to vote 100% Democrat again because CNN has ordered you to do that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The owner of a Los Angeles-based construction and electrical company had a reality check after realizing that voting for Democrats had destroyed his business.

Ryan Baggaley, the owner of Delta Construction and Electric Co., said a group of at least ten thieves broke into his business on Wednesday morning and blasted L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, California Governor Gavin Newsom, and President Joe Biden for failing to protect his business.

“This whole strip has been broken into, our neighbors have been broken into four times, these guys just got broken into two months ago,” Baggaley said.

“What are we supposed to do? We’re a small construction company.”

The L.A. business owner blasted the Democrats he voted for, as his once safe neighborhood is now plagued with robberies.

“I voted for Karen Bass. I voted for Biden. I voted for Gavin Newsom,” he said.

“I’m sick of it,” Baggaley said.

“At some point you have to give me a reason to vote for you again.”

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (Mig/N)

419 413 Yeah, everyone should be in the selective service. I'd much rather have a traditionalist society where that wasn't the case. But having abandoned that, everyone should be included now.

And while I can't quite say I'd support a draft in terms of being enthusiastic about it, I do think it would be helpful for Americans to experience their foreign-policy choices firsthand.
Posted by: Bet twitter profiles would lack those cute little blue/yellow flags in short order at December 08, 2023 01:21 PM (pjs7m)

Everyone would take life a lot more seriously if they had to get fired upon.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (sm6Pk)

420
I've already posted here about 100 chinese immigrants at a gun range in Lancaster County

they weren't sporting pea shooters

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2023 01:20 PM

Crap, the video I saw a couple days ago I saw about 100 Chinese males of military age with full bags. I don't suppose 'Border Security' goes through their possessions when the line is 10,000 people long.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (enJYY)

421 (((ace)))

You need to take the hair shirt off. We forgive you.

Mostly.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (cTCuP)

422 And he slammed McConnell for turning the briefing into a partisan food fight over immigration policy instead of a factual analysis of Ukraine's ability to hold off a Russian invasion without additional U.S. military aid.
---
"Your derailing this meeting to get what you want--when this meeting is about you giving me WHAT I WANT!"

Posted by: Axeman at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (krQz2)

423 Women should be in combat in women only groups.

Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (SnxUt)

424 369
It doesn't matter how much money is sent to Ukraine. They aren't going to win, defined as driving Russia out of the occupied areas.

The best they could hope for is a negotiated end to the war. The US has prevented that, because this is all about creating a distraction, and the skim. The reason for the outrage in Congress is because their skim money is being withheld.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 08, 2023 01:12 PM (QKfZJ)

In a White House presser earlier this week, John Kirby said the US gets a security by continuing to fund Ukraine for the war, because Ukraine will continue to destroy Russian materiel.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (5fDan)

425 AND sending 1.8M Gazans to Z
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 08, 2023 12:36 PM (YRsIm)

Not sure that sending jihadis into eastern Europe is a good idea...

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (Rbu5d)

426 President Biden's son Hunter Biden was indicted in California on Thursday on a litany of tax charges, according to documents made public.

The indictment Hunter Biden's failure to pay nearly $200,000 of income tax in the year 2019.

Trump has been notified to show up to Court Today to answer why he framed Hunter Biden.

Posted by: CNN Reports at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (Mig/N)

427 In a White House presser earlier this week, John Kirby said the US gets a security by continuing to fund Ukraine for the war, because Ukraine will continue to destroy Russian materiel.
Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (5fDan)
++++
Destroy it with American materiel. Ours gets used up, too...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (zxP/x)

428 Women should be in combat in women only groups.
Posted by: nckate
___

*shudders*

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (MhJxt)

429 I just spent about an hour and a half watching EP 46 of Tucker Carlson on YouTube with Alex Jones. Highly recommended. YouTube is somehow hiding it from search results but if you start at the link below you should be able to find all three parts.

https://www.youtube.com/@angryteacher6

Alex Jones is definitely warning about sleeper cells coming across the border and being activated.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:17 PM (enJYY)

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Seconded! VERY eye-opening for the wifey and me.

Tucker looked like a little kid getting schooled throughout most of it ...

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (G53Ph)

430 John Kirby is an imbecile.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (lf83v)

431 “What are we supposed to do? We’re a small construction company.”

The L.A. business owner blasted the Democrats he voted for, as his once safe neighborhood is now plagued with robberies.

“I voted for Karen Bass. I voted for Biden. I voted for Gavin Newsom,” he said.

“I’m sick of it,” Baggaley said.

“At some point you have to give me a reason to vote for you again.”
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (Mig/N)
---
Generic Democrat for President - 2024!

Vote Democrat Harder!

"My name is Generic Democrat, and I approve this message."

Posted by: Axeman at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (krQz2)

432 427 In a White House presser earlier this week, John Kirby said the US gets a security by continuing to fund Ukraine for the war, because Ukraine will continue to destroy Russian materiel.
Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (5fDan)
++++
Destroy it with American materiel. Ours gets used up, too...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (zxP/x)

It's a feature, not a bug...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

433 “At some point you have to give me a reason to vote for you again.”
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (Mig/N)
----
"FREE STUFF FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!" -- Isn't that good enough for you?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (7fElN)

434 “I voted for Karen Bass. I voted for Biden. I voted for Gavin Newsom,” he said.

“I’m sick of it,” Baggaley said.

And He'll vote for them again

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (n2vyf)

435 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:22 PM (zxP/x)

My next revolution battle cry?

No representation without taxation.

If you don't pay a Positive income tax MINUS any Government subsidy? No vote. You should not be able to vote to give away OTHER people's money.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (xaFKb)

436 “At some point you have to give me a reason to vote for you again.”
Posted by: Ferd Berfall

"I don't know why I stay with him the way he beats me. I guess he can't help it though - hes got a good heart, he just lets his emotions take over once in a while. "

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (4DEBm)

437 Women should be in combat in women only groups.
________

The Karen Battalion.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (lf83v)

438 “At some point you have to give me a reason to vote for you again.”
_____

You have to vote for us, Republicans are evil transphobes!
-CA dems

(sigh), Ok, I'll vote fr.

Posted by: Past and Future Cali Crime Victim at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (fs1hN)

439 Drafted women. "Can you spare a square from your MREs and how the hell does this E Tool work".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (0EOe9)

440 How about a compromise? More Ukraine funding and in exchange, we have hearings to discuss ways to secure the border.

Deal!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (7KyEm)

441 Well, my daughters would be draft-eligible. I suppose I could live with that in itself. But I would fight tooth and nail against their being put into combat.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (N3zMI)

442 The three presidents all wear smaht glasses of varying colors. They smaht.
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:18 PM (v0R5T)
++++
There is a "Death Cab for Cutie" lyric that always stuck with me because it describes the phenomenon so well. They were positive about it (which is part of the problem), but nevertheless it defines the attitude.

And you were like a walking compliment
Tall in stature and exceptionally read
In dummy glasses and a cardigan
Oh, come on

These broads all want to be that girl he was singing about. It's an entire identity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (zxP/x)

443 > Alex Jones is definitely warning about sleeper cells coming across the border and being activated.
_________

I would presume their targets would not be average Americans but rather high profile people and/or politicians.

To make a point.

A roaming band of 100 well disciplined Chinese nationals armed with rifles and whatever else they can get a hold of marching done Penn Ave in the capitol city would certainly raise some eyebrows.

Whether the armed contingents protecting our political betters would prevail is debatable.

They appear formidable when going after unarmed and undisciplined civilians but one has to wonder how they'd fare against something entirely different.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (Q4IgG)

444 My next revolution battle cry?

No representation without taxation.

If you don't pay a Positive income tax MINUS any Government subsidy? No vote. You should not be able to vote to give away OTHER people's money.
Posted by: Romeo13

Romeo13 FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (ous9O)

445 President Biden's son Hunter Biden was indicted in California on Thursday on a litany of tax charges, according to documents made public.

The indictment Hunter Biden's failure to pay nearly $200,000 of income tax in the year 2019.

Posted by: CNN Reports at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (Mig/N)
---
Sounds like he's due for a "loan repayment".

Posted by: Axeman at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (krQz2)

446 432 427 In a White House presser earlier this week, John Kirby said the US gets a security by continuing to fund Ukraine for the war, because Ukraine will continue to destroy Russian materiel.
Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (5fDan)
++++
Destroy it with American materiel. Ours gets used up, too...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (zxP/x)

It's a feature, not a bug...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

We use million dollar missiles, to shoot down $10K drones.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (xaFKb)

447 Today President Biden reinstated the Draft and all biological males between the ages 18 -85 must sign up for the dradt.

Posted by: CNN Reports at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (Mig/N)

448 If you don't pay a Positive income tax MINUS any Government subsidy? No vote. You should not be able to vote to give away OTHER people's money.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (xaFKb)

The romans had both a property requirement for voting AND for serving in the legions in the early days (although for the legion, it was because you had to equip yourself.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (zZu0s)

449 L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, California Governor Gavin Newsom, and President Joe Biden
.......

The trifecta of Boneheads.
My apologies to the Morons.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (v0R5T)

450 “I voted for Karen Bass. I voted for Biden. I voted for Gavin Newsom,” he said."

You got what you voted for. What's the problem?

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (vFG9F)

451
*shudders*
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (MhJxt)

Merry Christmas SMH! Hoping all is well with you and yours!!!

Posted by: Moki at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (N43JC)

452 oops -

In a White House presser earlier this week, John Kirby said the US gets a security BENEFIT by continuing to fund Ukraine for the war, because Ukraine will continue to destroy Russian materiel.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (5fDan)

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (5fDan)

453 447 Today President Biden reinstated the Draft and all biological males between the ages 18 -85 must sign up for the dradt.
Posted by: CNN Reports at December 08, 2023 01:27 PM (Mig/N)

I get top bunk guys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (zZu0s)

454 The Karen Battalion

Maenads.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (JrojV)

455 If you don't pay a Positive income tax MINUS any Government subsidy? No vote. You should not be able to vote to give away OTHER people's money.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:26 PM (xaFKb)
++++
I have long been in favor of limiting the franchise to net-contributors. I don't care how much - one cent, a billion dollars, whatever - but net payers only. And property tax initiatives should have the franchise limited to property owners.

No skin in the game, no vote.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (zxP/x)

456 Too bad he couldn't be troubled to speak out about the obvious corruption in his state's elections. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who only care about the doing the right thing when it personally affects them.
Posted by: JackStraw

Shapiro is a piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (R4t5M)

457 Whatever you think about Fetterman, at the very least his advisors are not stupid and are aware they're lucky to be there

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (KhYiQ)

458 Hey Moki!

Mele Kalikimaka to you and yours also. : )

Things are going well, praise God.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (MhJxt)

459 President Biden's son Hunter Biden was indicted in California on Thursday on a litany of tax charges, according to documents made public.
____________

"Russian disinformation."

- 51 Intelligence Experts

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (lf83v)

460 President Biden's son Hunter Biden was indicted in California on Thursday on a litany of tax charges, according to documents made public.

The indictment Hunter Biden's failure to pay nearly $200,000 of income tax in the year 2019.

Trump has been notified to show up to Court Today to answer why he framed Hunter Biden.

Posted by: CNN Reports at December 08, 2023 01:24 PM (Mig/N)

-----------

How about those FARA violation indictments?

/As Bongino is pointing out, they can't go there because it leads directly to DogEater and F. Joe corruption

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (G53Ph)

461 OT-And I just heard on the conservative radio station that after being indicted Hunter went on some podcast "Moby" something to talk, so obviously nothing is going to happen to him , or his lawyer would have said, "Shut the heck up."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (RSbhh)

462 NOOD

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (5fDan)

463 Women should be in combat in women only groups.
________

The Karen Battalion.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Karen POW's: WE WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!!

Commandant: HOGAN!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (ous9O)

464
No skin in the game, no vote.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Compromise, we let illegals vote, but only ones that get in before 2035.

Deal?

Posted by: Congress at December 08, 2023 01:30 PM (4DEBm)

465 The 503rd Would Like A Word With The Manager Brigade

Posted by: Don Black at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (geLO8)

466 Women should be in combat in women only groups.
Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (SnxUt)
.......

All wearing the same uniform could create problems.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

467
Seconded! VERY eye-opening for the wifey and me.

Tucker looked like a little kid getting schooled throughout most of it ...

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM

Tucker played the footage of Alex Jones predicting 9/11 early in the program - which was kind of eerie. Tucker mainly listened - if Alex had said something so over the top that he would have had to interject I'm sure he would have - but he basically was just nodding in agreement.

Alex thinks we gotta real problem with the people in this country right now and it's getting worse every day. Alex seems to think it's by design and while not predicting the date thinks they could be activated at any time. It gets tougher every day to deny that possibility.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (enJYY)

468 I have more faith in the weather monkeys flinging excrement at the forcast than I do in a bunch of self congratulatory POS.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sailing on the Edmund Fitzgerald at December 08, 2023 12:25 PM (gO83f)

So that's who I saw throwing stuff at trees the other day. Hope they get some rain coming our way soon.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (BdMk6)

469 Women should be in combat in women only groups.
Posted by: nckate

Cat fight!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (CErKY)

470 We use million dollar missiles, to shoot down $10K drones.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

- Raytheon Corp

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (dZVON)

471 biolabs in Ukraine.
https://shorturl.at/astD9

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (Rbu5d)

472 *shudders*
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:25 PM (MhJxt)

Merry Christmas SMH! Hoping all is well with you and yours!!!

Posted by: Moki at December 08, 2023 01:28 PM (N43JC)

Merry Christmas to both of you and yourn !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (T4tVD)

473 “What are we supposed to do? We’re a small construction company.”

The L.A. business owner blasted the Democrats he voted for, as his once safe neighborhood is now plagued with robberies.

“I voted for Karen Bass. I voted for Biden. I voted for Gavin Newsom,” he said.

“I’m sick of it,” Baggaley said.

“At some point you have to give me a reason to vote for you again.”
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 01:23 PM (Mig/N)
===
Kill yourself. For the sake of the rest of us.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (RIvkX)

474 I'm not very concerned about 18-yr-olds voting 70% DEM.

Do you vote the same way you did when you were 18? Know many people who do?

Plus, young, new voters show up to vote much less than older groups.

So if I'm a GOP nominee for public office, I'd devote my resources to targeting somebody else.

Posted by: mnw at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (NLIak)

475 We're in an incredibly stupid place when Fetterman's Monster is a more trustworthy border hawk than 2/3's of the GOP Senate.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at December 08, 2023 01:57 PM (zdYK9)

476 This is the moment that the US government and it's military azz kissers revealed that they are no more than a criminal organization likened unto the mafia. That jumped up Biden butt boy of a general better hope that the actual patriotic members of this country don't lose any son, cousins or uncles in a war that only provides kickbacks and graft for politicians.

Posted by: Fed Up to Here at December 08, 2023 02:13 PM (VcHM+)

477 I'll make a wager now over IF Speaker Johnson actually follows through on his words. The sure bet is he folds again like a wobbly deck chair (like with FISA reauthorization) and gives Biden everything he wants.

Anyone wish to take me up on that wager?

Oh and since it's been a while, Brian Kemp is still a GA hick piece of shit! Never forget what an SOB he is, legal voters of the Peach State.

Posted by: Tracy at December 08, 2023 02:40 PM (9b89s)

478 Mike: "if you don't stop doing that thing in my mouth I will stop letting you sleep with my wife"

Sometimes I wonder if the GOP has it coming.

I'm sorry, am I supposed to clap for this?

Posted by: Fenrisulven at December 08, 2023 02:59 PM (Jxtrh)

479 And now Ace smells of ellllderberry.

We need more Frenchmen taunting Ace for his weakness on mcleavin, and perhaps some shaking of private parts in his general direction.

Posted by: Monty Pythons Grail at December 08, 2023 03:22 PM (V8yYW)

480 I’m having a strange new respect for letterman’s monster.

Posted by: Monty Pythons Grail at December 08, 2023 03:23 PM (V8yYW)

481 With all due respect to our issues at the border, it's not the purview of our Generals to give advice about that. Heck, according to Posse Comitatus you can't even post them there.

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