Economists Predict Recession in 2024; Oil Likely to Hit $100 Per Barrel Again

Wouldn't it be nice if we were producing our own oil, like we did for four years before this usurper was placed in the White House by a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States of a valid election?

Oil prices are expected to rise in the new year after some OPEC+ oil producers voluntarily pledged to cut output.
The oil cartel on Thursday released a statement that did not formally endorse production cuts, but individual countries announced voluntary reductions totaling 2.2 million barrels per day for the first quarter of 2024.
Leading the cuts is OPEC kingpin and largest member Saudi Arabia. Riyadh agreed to extend its voluntary production cut of 1 million barrels per day -- which has been in place since July -- until the end of the first quarter of 2024. Russia said it will cut supply by 300,000 barrels per day of crude and 200,000 barrels per day of petroleum products over the same period.

Oh, Saudi Arabia is cutting production again? I guess maybe you shouldn't publicly accuse the Crown Prince of a major oil-producing ally of murder, especially if you also plan on restricting US oil production at the same time.

Meanwhile -- and I doubt that economists have factored this just-announced production cut into their forecasts -- economists say the economy will slow in 2024, and that the odds of a recession are 50/50.

"The NABE [National Association of Business Economics] Outlook Survey Panel anticipates stronger U.S. economic growth projections for 2023 than in the October Outlook survey, but panelists expect growth to slow to 1% between the fourth quarter of 2023 and the fourth quarter of 2024," said NABE President Ellen Zentner, chief U.S. economist at Morgan Stanley, in the group's latest survey.
U.S. GDP is expected to slow to 1.2% in the fourth quarter as tracked by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta's GDP Now, which was updated on Dec. 1, citing a slowdown in construction spending and manufacturing.

1% growth! That's terrible. And of course they're also saying that we'll have a recession, two quarters of negative growth, in addition.

The old saying is that the public's sentiments about the economy are formed, what, nine months before an election?

A few months ago Biden attempted to affirmatively run on his miserable, immiserating economy, instead of running away from it. He really thought that his media allies still had the public's confidence enough that they could brainwash citizens into believing Biden's economy was some kind of miracle.

Well, that did not work. And now House Democrats announce that they will not be joining Roomba Joe in his suicide mission of saying "If you love this economy, vote for me!"

This is Axios, which is Politico for the Developmentally Delayed. And I can't believe I just inadvertently suggested that Politico is not for the Developmentally Delayed.

House Democrats have rejected the White House's months-long campaign to sell the term "Bidenomics."
Why it matters: Democrats are going into the 2024 election divided on how to communicate about the economy at a time when most voters are dissatisfied with it.
What's happening: House Democratic leadership stopped pushing the term months ago.
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and House Majority PAC, two key fundraising arms, are also avoiding it on social media and press releases, as polling indicates the tagline is ineffective.
In a meeting this past summer to discuss economic messaging strategy, House Democrats decided to stick with "People Over Politics" rather than "Bidenomics," one senior Democratic leadership aide told Axios.
Zoom in: The "Bidenomics" catchphrase seemed to present a host of issues, according to Democratic sources.
The term was seen as tone-deaf to voters still struggling economically and also invoked a president with lackluster polling numbers.
One Democratic strategist said the biggest problem wasn't using "Biden," but that the term was too philosophical and required too much explanation.

This is always their excuse -- their claims are "too complicated" for the stupid American public to understand.

No. The truth is pretty easy to understand, especially in cases like this. People know they have less wealth than they did before. That's easy to understand.

The lie -- that they're actually wealthier than they were before -- is "too philosophical and complicated" because it requires accepting a host of false premises to accept. False premises like "you're not unemployed, you're funemployed" or "inflation is really Winflation."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:15 PM

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1 I've summoned 'em.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 05, 2023 02:16 PM (qPw5n)

2 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 05, 2023 02:17 PM (JrojV)

3 economists say the economy will slow in 2024, and that the odds of a recession are 50/50.

Well, when you're ALREADY in a recession, but the Gov't refuses to acknowledge it, the odds are better than that of a recession...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

4 best economy ever

Posted by: brak at December 05, 2023 02:17 PM (AR07F)

5 Economists Predict Recession in 2024; Oil Likely to Hit $100 Per Barrell Again

It's Trumps Fault!!!!!!

Posted by: The Junta at December 05, 2023 02:17 PM (5fDan)

6 Liar!!!!

The economy has never been better,

- MSM

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:17 PM (WY6dk)

7 We've BEEN in a recession since shortly after Biden was installed.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2023 02:17 PM (XqcwY)

8 Recession was my favorite part of elementary school.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 05, 2023 02:18 PM (JrojV)

9 False premises like "you're not unemployed, you're funemployed" or "inflation is really Winflation."

Wow, I earn so many Weimer Dollars! How much is that loaf of bread now?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

10 I let someone go two months ago for watching porn at work. I'm 99% letting another guy go this week or next...not the greatest work attitude and likes to take days off, but also SALES TANKED BY 20% DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

All this "GROWTH" must be Amazon execs and Chinese firms kicking ass wiith help from Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Harun at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (c2WeP)

11 It's only because they are overcharging! I will combat this by draining on our strategic reserve.

Posted by: Joey Bidet at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (XeU6L)

12 I predict no recession in 2024. Because it's an election year and the Dems can't be seen with a bad economy in an election year. Therefore, there will be no recession.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (fKIdX)

13 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

14 Managing an Economy without a Permit. Anymore room at Nanzi's Gulag?

Posted by: Pete Buttigay at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (ntk8v)

15 This is always their excuse -- their claims are "too complicated" for the stupid American public to understand.

No. The truth is pretty easy to understand, especially in cases like this. People know they have less wealth than they did before. That's easy to understand.

I assert it's both: a goodly chunk of the population are grifting idiots who care only how many freebies they're getting, and they also have less wealth than they did before, due to their idiotic voting patterns. Will they connect the two? Unlikely.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (I/Qkd)

16 11 It's only because they are overcharging! I will combat this by draining on our strategic reserve.

Posted by: Joey Bidet at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (XeU6L)

Damn companies and their damned...PROFIT motives! How DARE they put their profits and their solvency above the needs of this Administration!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

17 I guess we're all just too far away from Money Printing Central

cantillon effect - that's how bidenomics "works" - and only for insiders

President Milei just explained this btw, really well

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (AcWfM)

18 False premises like "you're not unemployed, you're funemployed" or "inflation is really Winflation."
------
Use the time to take a funcation!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (XeU6L)

19 13 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

Can Congress be aborted first?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

20 This is, apparently, why the term "Bidenomics" disappeared rather abruptly. For a couple weeks this was popping up everywhere...then...*poof*

Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (dIske)

21 I have been informed by reliable sources that *I* caused inflation by buying expensive things.

I am sorry.

Posted by: Man in line at supermarket at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (d0fsD)

22 I predict no recession in 2024. Because it's an election year and the Dems can't be seen with a bad economy in an election year. Therefore, there will be no recession.

If a recession occurs in the woods, and the media don't report it, did it really happen?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (I/Qkd)

23 One Democratic strategist said the biggest problem wasn't using "Biden," but that the term was too philosophical and required too much explanation.

---

lol

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Bidenomics. The economics is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of metaphysics most of the philosophy will go over a typical viewer's head.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (fKIdX)

24 1.2% growth

Government spending isn't growth in the real world.

Without Government spending included in the numbers, we'd show, what, -8% growth or mre?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (tT6L1)

25 economists say the economy will slow in 2024, and that the odds of a recession are 50/50.

And that would be different from now, how?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (h8TYC)

26 The number of job openings in October fell to the lowest since March 2021.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (WY6dk)

27
KJP has assured us this is all a lie, and is so upset by far right wing lies that she has to leave the room.

There. See what you did to her now?

Posted by: Auspex at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (j4U/Z)

28

W.I.N.!

Posted by: G. Ford at December 05, 2023 02:22 PM (sL4uP)

29 “Funemployment” isn’t.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 05, 2023 02:22 PM (JrojV)

30 Damn companies and their damned...PROFIT motives! How DARE they put their profits and their solvency above the needs of this Administration!
--------

We'll restrict their exploration and drilling. That'll shape things up!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2023 02:22 PM (XeU6L)

31 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Bidenomics.

IQ = Idiot Quality

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:22 PM (I/Qkd)

32 It is working.
Bidenomics
And build back dumber.
Great program's

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at December 05, 2023 02:22 PM (ytSiK)

33 one of the trending items on social media recently was how bad Black Friday was -- sure there were lots of the usual comments about "corporate greed" because stores aren't having massive sales, but the overwhelming theme is "people are too broke for shopping" and "this economy sucks" with lots and lots of "please get rid of Biden" and "bring back Trump" tossed in there

people are noticing, and the usual "corporate greed" deflections aren't working, even on leftwing social media

don't know if that will mean votes but it's something

Posted by: brak at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (AR07F)

34 1st Q of 2025 is the time I think the shit hits the fan.

And it isn't going to be just a run of the mill recession.

Get prepared for fun times, Morons.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (/S2W0)

35 Bidenomics is not good for Dog Faced Pony Soldiers.

Posted by: Pete Buttigay at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (ntk8v)

36 “Funemployment” isn’t.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
------

Yeah, the problem is, it doesn't pay the bills.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (XeU6L)

37 Every day is a fresh, new hell.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (xcLhO)

38 Quit blaming the economy and inflation. You should get a third and fourth job, sell your car and get a $1000 beater, eat rice and beans beans and rice and stop spending so much on electricity, gas, housing, water, car insurance and food, stupid! And don't think about asking for a COLA raise, stupid, then we have to take it back when the inflation goes away, stupid! Oh, and if you work more than one job from home you're a thief and you're scum!

Posted by: Dave Ramsey, boomer meme incarnate at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (r/JV0)

39 Biden's lies are cheap just like the North Koreans leaders.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 05, 2023 02:24 PM (J8LnB)

40 One Democratic strategist said the biggest problem wasn't using "Biden," but that the term was too philosophical and required too much explanation.

Sounds like the emperor's new robe.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 02:24 PM (hCt6Y)

41 18 False premises like "you're not unemployed, you're funemployed" or "inflation is really Winflation."
------
Use the time to take a funcation!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (XeU6L)

I think I'll retire to a little island in the middle of nowhere.

How many isolated street islands are there in Kalifornia?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:24 PM (ynpvh)

42 We had 2 quarters of negative growth which has been the standard for a recession since ww2. And the junta said, not a recession, and the msm dutifully went along. So no, there won’t be one in 2024 either because they just make it up now.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:24 PM (WY6dk)

43 Funflation is back!

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2023 02:24 PM (MGB5H)

44 34 1st Q of 2025 is the time I think the shit hits the fan.

And it isn't going to be just a run of the mill recession.

Get prepared for fun times, Morons.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (/S2W0)

Can't wait to starve to death.

Posted by: Rat soup and squirrel fritters, here we come at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (r/JV0)

45 Would you believe 'From the Middle, up until the Bottom Falls Out?

Posted by: Alt Bidenomics at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (/S2W0)

46 Well, if the illegals hit hard times, there's always the military...
---
Dick Durbin lobbies for bill that would give illegal invaders citizenship in exchange for military service

https://tinyurl.com/ymjy54e7

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (IHzq/)

47 25 economists say the economy will slow in 2024, and that the odds of a recession are 50/50.

And that would be different from now, how?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 02:21 PM (h8TYC)

Now with *Even More* winning effects of Bidenomics.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

48 Hmmm, more interesting times ahead in 2024? Maybe? Somehow, a replay of 2008 keeps playing in my head.?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (ntk8v)

49 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (hCt6Y)

50 Kick back and watch some Disney movies, guys.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (ntk8v)

51 228 Admiral Ackbar >>> Admiral Ravine
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

https://tinyurl.com/fc3zdft3

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (JCZqz)

52 A real war would be a picker upper.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (ntk8v)

53 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

Near as I can tell, it's "spend money you don't have".

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (I/Qkd)

54 Welp, off to start my Christmas shopping. Later.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (JrojV)

55 44 34 1st Q of 2025 is the time I think the shit hits the fan.

And it isn't going to be just a run of the mill recession.

Get prepared for fun times, Morons.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (/S2W0)

Can't wait to starve to death.

Posted by: Rat soup and squirrel fritters, here we come at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (r/JV0)

"Bugs, grass, and bark: A balanced Meal"--Admiral "Rachel" Levine's new best-seller.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (ynpvh)

56 "Bidenomics" should be the reply every time a Dem says anything on TV or the Radio this election.

The people know they are getting paid in dollars that do not go as far as they used to and their salaries are not keeping up with household necessity prices.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2023 02:27 PM (kRFVk)

57 The only thing that was preventing the start of the recession last Q was the G portion of the GDP equation (C+ I + G + (XM-IM)).

It's been a fake economy for awhile now.

Posted by: Jim at December 05, 2023 02:27 PM (KQLSv)

58 49 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (hCt6Y)

It involves, icecream, little girls, and his depends.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

59
When the green shoots the Inflation Reduction Act planted start sprouting, and millions relieved of the onerous burden of paying tuition debt, everybody will be thanking Joey for the job he's doing.

Decolonizing Afghanistan might be overshadowed by his latest moves.

Posted by: Auspex at December 05, 2023 02:27 PM (j4U/Z)

60 49 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

—

It’s it’s it’s the thing man you know with the dollars and the cents and the people and the the the did I ever tell you about korn pop and his economics? Come on man.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (WY6dk)

61 51 228 Admiral Ackbar >>> Admiral Ravine
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

https://tinyurl.com/fc3zdft3

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (JCZqz)

She looks hideous. And so does she.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (ynpvh)

62 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd

C'mon, man....you know, it's the...the....the thing. Line go up, money printer go brrrrr!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (JCZqz)

63 Remember Shovel Ready Jobs?

Oh...good times.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (/S2W0)

64 Seen on X:

Won't join the woke military? Illegals will.

Won't eat the bugs? Double beef prices.

Won't buy a tiny house? Raise interest rates.

Won't buy an electric car? Double fuel prices.

Won't get the jab? Shut it down again.

Won't give up your AR-15? Good luck with ammo.

We are at war.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (IHzq/)

65 It's been a fake economy for awhile now.
--------------
Yep. Inflation Dumpster fires burn everything. Thanks Joe, says the Loan Shark State.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (ntk8v)

66 The economy you say? I was totally amazed when President was all like ok do this , do that lickity split Bobs Yer Uncle and BOOM the economy was humming like a Singer sewing machine.. The lefty bastard HATED every minute or it trust me. I was seriously amazed that Donald Trump ran the country really well because he talked a bunch of BS it seemed BUT I was with him from the day he came down the escalator.....in 2015

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (7cPAc)

67 "Not to worry, comrades -- the coming recession will be transitory and help usher President Josef Roombanette Biden to a landslide reelection with over 300 million votes!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 02:29 PM (yL61Q)

68 >>No. The truth is pretty easy to understand,..

Your're gonna have to explain it to me cause I am still confused.
We are pushing EV, and green energy, and bugs -- that should make people feel wealthy, right? We are pushing DEI and mandatory dick sucking, pooping in streets, high crime, drugs and censorship.

To me, these are all great things. You see, I have been told they are great things and I have no mind, only a receptacle for the narrative delivered by the algorithm and so I do not understand.

Explain it to me like I am a retarded 5yo who understands nothing about the world, trusts my gov. completely, and is jumping up and down cause I have to pee.

Posted by: Millennial Lefty Voter at December 05, 2023 02:29 PM (d0fsD)

69 49 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 02:25 PM (hCt6Y)

That's Bidenomiphobic. You're Bidenomiphobic.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 02:29 PM (fKIdX)

70 68 >>No. The truth is pretty easy to understand,..

Your're gonna have to explain it to me cause I am still confused.
We are pushing EV, and green energy, and bugs -- that should make people feel wealthy, right? We are pushing DEI and mandatory dick sucking, pooping in streets, high crime, drugs and censorship.

To me, these are all great things. You see, I have been told they are great things and I have no mind, only a receptacle for the narrative delivered by the algorithm and so I do not understand.

Explain it to me like I am a retarded 5yo who understands nothing about the world, trusts my gov. completely, and is jumping up and down cause I have to pee.

Posted by: Millennial Lefty Voter at December 05, 2023 02:29 PM (d0fsD)

That's what depends are for.

Posted by: Joey at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

71 I’ve noticed media has stopped saying x (formerly Twitter) for the most part. About damn time.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (WY6dk)

72 51 228 Admiral Ackbar >>> Admiral Ravine
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

https://tinyurl.com/fc3zdft3
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM

I can't think of a more perfect snapshot of everything wrong with America.

There are probably plenty, I just can't think of them right now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (aQy7p)

73 "Oh, Saudi Arabia is cutting production again? I guess maybe you shouldn't publicly accuse the Crown Prince of a major oil-producing ally of murder, especially if you also plan on restricting US oil production at the same time."

Well, that and green-lighting or tacitly allowing a major assassination attempt against him in Las Vegas would have kept him sweet.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (D7oie)

74 Maybe if we outlaw ATM machines we can start an economic renaissance? Something a Gay Hawaiian Oreo Cookie said.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (ntk8v)

75 The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (/S2W0)

76 11 It's only because they are overcharging! I will combat this by draining on our strategic reserve.

Posted by: Joey Bidet at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (XeU6L)

Look folks, I'm a capitalist. Not kidding! So I know the difference between true, honest capitalism that serves the people and the Government while making a small, honest profit, and the widespread price-gouging false capitalism that is now being practiced by too many evil corporations!

Posted by: Joey Bidet at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (5fDan)

77 61 51 228 Admiral Ackbar >>> Admiral Ravine
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

https://tinyurl.com/fc3zdft3

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (JCZqz)

She looks hideous. And so does she.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

We understand....beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You didn't misgender either of us, though, and that's the tolerant progress we're looking for.

You'll be pressured to suck our lady-schlongs and say you like it soon enough.

Posted by: Trans Weirdos Everywhere at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (JCZqz)

78 72 51 228 Admiral Ackbar >>> Admiral Ravine
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

https://tinyurl.com/fc3zdft3
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM

I can't think of a more perfect snapshot of everything wrong with America.

There are probably plenty, I just can't think of them right now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (aQy7p)

I tried sniffing their hair. Didn't smell right.

Posted by: Joey at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (ynpvh)

79 Money supply (M2) is declining at the fast rate in 80 years. Hmmm......

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (GQNjd)

80 Oh, economists predict the current ression will happen next year. Economists are right up there with * cough, cough, * climate scientists. Both are lying shit weasels and smell like a French sewer worker

Posted by: Beartooth at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (4iIQh)

81 The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.

That's not right. I just got a snail mail from one of our local RE agents telling me that now was a GREAT time to buy.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (I/Qkd)

82 Screw the economy, Republicans want to ban abortion because they HATE WOMEN111115426211111!!!

Posted by: Suburban White Woman at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (+7euU)

83 77 61 51 228 Admiral Ackbar >>> Admiral Ravine
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

https://tinyurl.com/fc3zdft3

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 05, 2023 02:26 PM (JCZqz)

She looks hideous. And so does she.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

We understand....beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You didn't misgender either of us, though, and that's the tolerant progress we're looking for.

You'll be pressured to suck our lady-schlongs and say you like it soon enough.

Posted by: Trans Weirdos Everywhere at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (JCZqz)

And a lack of praise or appreciation of it is racist...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (ynpvh)

84 If you guys have a way of reading the Kagan article in the WaPo without giving Bezos any money or clicks - you should check it out. It is incredible. It reads like a rationalization and plea to the CIA to assassinate Trump, and it also reads like a campaign ad for Trump. And the lack of self awareness on Kagan's part is also amazing - asking things like - what happens when a regime targets its political opponents? How will the public react?! It verges on parody at times. But it is dangerous - it shows how desperate the left and the institutionalists will get. Pretty scary

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (5C4od)

85 "One Democratic strategist said the biggest problem wasn't using "Biden," but that the term was too philosophical and required too much explanation."

This made me laugh until I realized how stupid they think voters really are. And sometimes they're right.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (XPM1I)

86
That's not right. I just got a snail mail from one of our local RE agents telling me that now was a GREAT time to buy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (I/Qkd)

It’s always a great time to buy and sell.
- real estate agents

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (WY6dk)

87 That's not right. I just got a snail mail from one of our local RE agents telling me that now was a GREAT time to buy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:31 PM (I/Qkd)

Well, it would be great for them if you bought now...

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (fKIdX)

88 What I think will hurt people is the available part time jobs will be taken by seniors who only need to supplement their income.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (tT6L1)

89 Seen on X:

Won't join the woke military? Illegals will.

Won't eat the bugs? Double beef prices.

Won't buy a tiny house? Raise interest rates.

Won't buy an electric car? Double fuel prices.

Won't get the jab? Shut it down again.

Won't give up your AR-15? Good luck with ammo.

We are at war.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM (IHzq/)

Pretty much sums up the Kalorama domestic policy.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (BdMk6)

90 Trumps economy proved two things either. the politicians charged with running the country don't know jack shit about economics OR they are too busy sabotaging the American way of life to fufill the 'progression' towards communism, fuckwads all!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (7cPAc)

91 53 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

Near as I can tell, it's "spend money you don't have".

Great. The US economy is based on "girl math" now.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (oCS0o)

92
As a lifelong Democrat I will little choice but to cast my vote for RFK Jr in November of 2024. I know third parties historically are little more then a 'protest vote' but I still want my voice to be heard. I welcome my fellow Democrats to join with me. Vote early, vote often.

Posted by: Not Trolling At All at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (enJYY)

93 Screw the economy, Republicans want to ban abortion because they HATE WOMEN111115426211111!!!

Posted by: Suburban White Woman

AND trump said pussy, reeeeeeeeee
-same woman.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (MGB5H)

94 90 Trumps economy proved two things either. the politicians charged with running the country don't know jack shit about economics OR they are too busy sabotaging the American way of life to fufill the 'progression' towards communism, fuckwads all!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (7cPAc)

Well, damnit, if it doesn't fill the politicians' coffers, it ain't good for the country.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ynpvh)

95 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.

Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ctaj/)

96 82 Screw the economy, Republicans want to ban abortion because they HATE WOMEN111115426211111!!!

Posted by: Suburban White Woman at December 05, 2023 02:32 PM (+7euU)

There’s much truth here. Abortion is all the Dems have to run on. And they’ve had success in 22 and 23 doing it.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (WY6dk)

97 Is the National Strategic Petroleum Reserve like Dr. Jill's crotch yet -- bone dry?

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (yL61Q)

98 91 53 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

Near as I can tell, it's "spend money you don't have".

Great. The US economy is based on "girl math" now.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (oCS0o)

By spending those $Trillions, he's saved $Trillions! So now we can afford to spend even more $Trillions!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ynpvh)

99 17 I guess we're all just too far away from Money Printing Central

cantillon effect - that's how bidenomics "works" - and only for insiders

President Milei just explained this btw, really well

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2023 02:20 PM (AcWfM)

El gato malo had a post about this. Is that where you heard it from? It's a new idea to me.

Posted by: InZona at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (D/GbM)

100 95 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.

Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ctaj/)

I find that notion Depressing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

101 Democrats: can't run shit the way they run their mouths.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (krQz2)

102 iF YOU WON'T LET ME KILL, CARVE, SERVE, AND DINE ON MY ZYGOTE YOU ARE A GOD-BOTHERING NAZI!!!!

Posted by: Suburban White Woman at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (+7euU)

103 Explain it to me like I am a retarded 5yo who understands nothing about the world, trusts my gov. completely, and is jumping up and down cause I have to pee.
Posted by: Millennial Lefty Voter at December 05, 2023 02:29 PM (d0fsD)

We spent your inheritance, and are about to exhaust the reverse mortgage on the family home. The furniture is pledged against a loan with a guy named Sal and we forged your name as a co-signer at his suggestion.
You are financially screwed, and these policies are created to give a pretext for making you live like an 18th century peasant in dept peonage. But think of how you are saving the Earth!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (D7oie)

104 Didn't Jim Kramer already say the economy is doing just fine?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (tT6L1)

105 Subtle Like a Brick Through a Window – CIA Outlet Approves Donald Trump Assassination

https://tinyurl.com/3rdr2w6r

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (IHzq/)

106 The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (/S2W0)

In my neck of the peoples socialistic democratics republics of northern virginia, I am wondering how residential real estate prices are holding steady? Homes are still selling in my gulag neighborhood. I guess people are going into ARMs, in the hopes of decrease in the 10 year treasury rates in the next 1-5 years, to refi into a 30 year fixed? The Fed has kicked the can down the road so far, that not much road is left?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (ntk8v)

107 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.

Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ctaj/)

I find that notion Depressing.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (ynpvh)
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You'll need to make an adjustment.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (krQz2)

108 1% growth! That's terrible. And of course they're also saying that we'll have a recession, two quarters of negative growth, in addition.
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Nah, that's the pre-Biden definition.

In the current era, there are no recessions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (d04cU)

109 By spending those $Trillions, he's saved $Trillions! So now we can afford to spend even more $Trillions!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Buy 10 get 1 free. I couldn't afford not to.
-AWFLs

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (MGB5H)

110 104 Didn't Jim Kramer already say the economy is doing just fine?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (tT6L1)

Oh Lord, we're doomed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

111 64 Seen on X:

Won't join the woke military? Illegals will.
...
Won't get the jab? Shut it down again.
...
Won't give up your AR-15? Good luck with ammo.

We are at war.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 05, 2023 02:28 PM

I don't understand the paranoia you conservatives have, especially towards government. It was Reagan, I think, who famously said "We’re From the Government and We’re Here to Help".

Posted by: Education Secretary Miguel Cardona at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (JCZqz)

112 This is Axios, which is Politico for the Developmentally Delayed. And I can't believe I just inadvertently suggested that Politico is not for the Developmentally Delayed.
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Wrap it up. Threadwinner is in the main post today. It ain't fair, but what can ya do?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (d04cU)

113 The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (/S2W0)
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I'm wondering how many suicide pact laws we've passed since the last dive.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (krQz2)

114 Growth, shmouth, as long as my Obama phone still charges.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) "From the River to the Sea, Hamas will Simply Cease to Be" at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (5AVMW)

115 I've already been promised one winter of death, and until Gramps delivers my death I'm not going to buy any of his other prognostications.

Posted by: TL: DR version: Fuck Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (ttzpt)

116 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.
Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM

Precisely. We're being gaslit with the language that we haven't ALREADY entered into one awhile back. But, all the sudden, the metric (that was always the metric) reappears as having meaning after these same people said is wasn't the metric.

Bottom Line - listen to your common sense, pocketbook, and if you have a job.

Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (QV2fW)

117 So, who killed a deer this season?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (pohLc)

118 107 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.

Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ctaj/)

I find that notion Depressing.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (ynpvh)
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You'll need to make an adjustment.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (krQz2)

Turn that graph upside down...There. Better. A frown is a smile upside down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (ynpvh)

119 El gato malo had a post about this. Is that where you heard it from? It's a new idea to me.

yes!!! today's post was his second on the topic; both are great

I also saw the video of Milei explaining this really well on X today, it was being shared around

it's REALLY IMPORTANT this spreads to people - and they understand it. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING

now, I think it's probably too late to stop it but hopefully I'm wrong on that

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (AcWfM)

120 >>The old saying is that the public's sentiments about the economy are formed, what, nine months before an election?

I don't buy this.
I think this was formed to explain GWB losing because people thought we were in a recession after a minor dip months earlier.

Truth is, GWB lost because of lying media and 3rd party candidate. This was made up. Look at what happened to McCain. Or am I rememembering that wrong.

Posted by: Ross Perot at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (d0fsD)

121 No. The truth is pretty easy to understand, especially in cases like this. People know they have less wealth than they did before. That's easy to understand.
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And even if wealth is held steady - it might be, on net, because house prices haven't cratered yet - daily life is still more expensive. It punches you in the guts and makes you feel it every day at the store or at the pump.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (d04cU)

122 >>In my neck of the peoples socialistic democratics republics of northern virginia, I am wondering how residential real estate prices are holding steady?

Supply is really low in most areas, helping costs stay up.

Most sales these days are Cash sales. Upwards of 60% or so...

I would not be buying a home with anything more than I could afford in a cash payment, in this environment.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (/S2W0)

123 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

You seem to care an awful lot about abortion.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (3QCA5)

124 Didn't Jim Kramer already say the economy is doing just fine?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (tT6L1)

Oh Lord, we're doomed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)
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Last sign of the Apocalypse, I believe, is Jim Cramer saying "And that's not the fourth rider".

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (krQz2)

125 I'm fairly certain that whatever "economists" tell you, you can safely wipe your ass with it. That goes for good news as well as bad. I've been hearing about recessions and collapsing stock markets for 3+ years now. Meanwhile, stocks are near record highs, or at least my (diversified) portfolio is.

This is another reason why the elite doesn't care as much about inflation, wages, or other similar indicators. They value their wealth by their assets. Those assets include equity portfolios. Since those portfolios are doing very well, to them that means they are doing very well.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (iFTx/)

126 In my neck of the peoples socialistic democratics republics of northern virginia, I am wondering how residential real estate prices are holding steady? Homes are still selling in my gulag neighborhood. I guess people are going into ARMs, in the hopes of decrease in the 10 year treasury rates in the next 1-5 years, to refi into a 30 year fixed? The Fed has kicked the can down the road so far, that not much road is left?
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Company Town. This company never has a recession. Evah!

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (ntk8v)

127 110 104 Didn't Jim Kramer already say the economy is doing just fine?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (tT6L1)

Oh Lord, we're doomed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

Yep. Inverse Cramer.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (ntk8v)

128 In my neck of the peoples socialistic democratics republics of northern virginia, I am wondering how residential real estate prices are holding steady? Homes are still selling in my gulag neighborhood. I guess people are going into ARMs, in the hopes of decrease in the 10 year treasury rates in the next 1-5 years, to refi into a 30 year fixed?

—

A full to the studs remodel went up in my hood a few weeks ago. Beautiful house and desirable babe. Not much action. Already a $100k price cut.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (WY6dk)

129 123 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

You seem to care an awful lot about abortion.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (3QCA5)

That is acceptable!
Exterminate! Exterminate! Exterminate!

Posted by: Daleks at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (ynpvh)

130 >>>The old saying is that the public's sentiments about the economy are formed, what, nine months before an election?
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It's baked in the cake. or, A bun in the oven?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (zzBMk)

131 If they make themselves able to tax unrealized gains as income… well that’s game over.

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (PCK5/)

132 In my neck of the peoples socialistic democratics republics of northern virginia, I am wondering how residential real estate prices are holding steady?

The short answer is that sales are way down, because nobody is buying or selling. Inventory is very short. People with homes can't afford to move, or don't want to go from a 3% mortgage to an 8% one. Also, this area tends to be maximum price sticky. People are assuming that prices will eventually start back up, so they're waiting. It can take a year or two, or more, for people to give up and sell at current prices.

Buyers are looking at 8% mortgages, when for many people, all they've known was < 4%. They're waiting for rates to drop again.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (I/Qkd)

133 Bidenomics mostly comes down to Core CPI.

Hunty's up to his brilliant nutsack in blow and hookers, and I'm rounding it out with the pralines and mint chips, jack. America's never done better when it comes to economic drivers like Crack, Prostitutes, and Ice Cream, and you can take that to the Chinese bank, fat.

We haven't been flush like this since I founded the World's Fair in London back in '51. It was free-base back then, and we called 'em doxies, but the ice cream was the same as it's ever been, since my dad Benjamin Franklin invented it. Democrats have always churned when the people have spoken.

Posted by: Brandon at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (0FoWg)

134 I think a recession is extremely likely next year, if not starting already. Interest rates are doing what they do. There is a staggering amount of uneconomic activity going on for the past 20 years (30, depending on how you count) on the back of interest rate repression. The air is going to come out because rates make its continuation untenable.

This continues until the source of inflation - the deficit - is cut out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (d04cU)

135 124 Didn't Jim Kramer already say the economy is doing just fine?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (tT6L1)

Oh Lord, we're doomed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)
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Last sign of the Apocalypse, I believe, is Jim Cramer saying "And that's not the fourth rider".

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (krQz2)

or "Utopia is finally upon us!"

Posted by: Daleks at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (ynpvh)

136 False premises like "you're not unemployed, you're funemployed" or "inflation is really Winflation."

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"Freed from Job Lock! Now everybody can write poetry ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (yL61Q)

137 El gato malo had a post about this. Is that where you heard it from? It's a new idea to me.
Posted by: InZona at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (D/GbM)

Richard Cantillon died in the 1730's, the idea has been kicking around for a while.

May I introduce you to the Austrian school of economic thought? Or the Mises Institute which promotes it? I started reading on it about 2009, the last time things started falling apart.

My first area of reading was "what is a business cycle and what causes it"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (D7oie)

138 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

You seem to care an awful lot about abortion.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (3QCA5)

I do because it’s an albatross around the GOP.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (WY6dk)

139 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.

Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:34 PM (ctaj/)

I find that notion Depressing.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (ynpvh)
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You'll need to make an adjustment.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (krQz2)

Turn that graph upside down...There. Better. A frown is a smile upside down.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:37 PM (ynpvh)
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So, would that qualify as an "economic re-alignment"?

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (krQz2)

140 Just gonna polish this one up for ... reasons:

"UNEXPECTEDLY"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (IG4Id)

141 off sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

142 For years and years my local realtor pals cried about a lack of inventory, nothing to sell.
No longer.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (MeG8a)

143 123 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

You seem to care an awful lot about abortion.

Just sayin'.
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What else is there? It's the ONE TRUE RIGHT.

Posted by: Suburban White Woman at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (+7euU)

144 Seems like the GOP has had control of the house for the majority of the last several decades, and yet all we have to show for it greater deficits every. fucking. year. And there hasn't been a budget passed in over a decade, maybe more. All we ever get is some bullshit 'continuing resolution'.

Someone should point this out to some of those asshats on some Sunday morning talk show and follow it with a question like 'what's gonna be different after the next election, assuming you guys are still in control?'

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (r9a0/)

145 The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.
Posted by: garrett

That's going to be fun. Everywhere I look, buildings are empty. Depending on the city, more buildings are empty than occupied.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (h8TYC)

146 138 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)

You seem to care an awful lot about abortion.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (3QCA5)

I do because it’s an albatross around the GOP.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (WY6dk)

Moreso that all the cheating on the local and state levels?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (ynpvh)

147 I guess there are people who still believe in data coming from the federal government. I don't know why.

None of the numbers mean anything, and whatever economic terminology that has been used in the past to describe the state of the economy has been so politicized as to be useless.

We're in a recession. We've been in one pretty much since March of 2020. Or call that something else, but the economy is shit, and everyone knows it, no matter what you call it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (dGCAG)

148 End up buying gasoline from the guy I buy weed from.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (J8LnB)

149 Meanwhile, stocks are near record highs, or at least my (diversified) portfolio is.

this is addressed in the el gato malo substack today

so we (you and I, with decently performing stocks) are a bit closer to the central circle of "bidenomics" aka where the money is created. not as close as the govt and govt clients, but closer than ordinary working Americans.

who are taking it in the chin and will continue to do so.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (AcWfM)

150 You should sell your car and get a $1000 beater!

Posted by: Dave Ramsey, boomer meme incarnate at December 05, 2023 02:23 PM (r/JV0)

Yeah, I know sock and everything, but anyone else noticed that you have to add a zero to that to get to the level of a beater now? We were looking at a potential replacement for a minivan of ours that is having leaking from either the window or the trunk. The only thing available that was 2015 or newer for "only" $15K were Mazda minivans that I hadn't ever heard of.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (a/dOO)

151 The US is producing more oil than ever before and oil goes down in times of global recession, not up. Why does this post make no sense?

Posted by: Jason at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (yS8bt)

152 >>That's going to be fun. Everywhere I look, buildings are empty. Depending on the city, more buildings are empty than occupied.

That crash is going to take a ton of Small / Local / Regional Banks out.

No way to avoid it, either.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (/S2W0)

153 Oh Lord, we're doomed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

Yep. Inverse Cramer.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (ntk8v)
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Bet the inverse, every time.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:42 PM (krQz2)

154 "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black!"
---Joe Biden, 2020

"If you don't vote for me, you ain't in the black!"
---Joe Biden, 2024

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at December 05, 2023 02:42 PM (PkFjB)

155 Maybe. Maybe the analysts making the prediction should find a way to filter out that big Global Warming conference from their newsfeeds.

I'm sure the headlines are filled with grand pledges. I thought I heard our very own John F. Kerry say something to the effect of no more permits for fossil fuel extraction should be issued. None of it is real, but it sure costs a lot of money.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 05, 2023 02:42 PM (z+89e)

156 This continues until the source of inflation - the deficit - is cut out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:39 PM (d04cU)

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Oh Lord we're doomed.

[h/t jim]

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 02:42 PM (yL61Q)

157 Joe Biden Is A Shit Head.

Shit. Head.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 05, 2023 02:43 PM (mQ8ar)

158 13 2024 will be abortion, abortion, abortion,
Some more abortion and oh yeah abortion.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:19 PM (WY6dk)
_______

I continue to believe the abortion rallying cry is merely cover for the steal. I doubt the issue really changes many voters' minds. But it's very useful for explaining how Democraps suddenly and inexplicably crush it at the ballot box. Rather than admit they stole the election, Dems instead pretend there was this huge swath of new Democrap voters who wouldn't otherwise have voted, but for abortion. It's bullshit.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 05, 2023 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

159
The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM

I was looking for a lawyers office a couple days ago. The web page gave the address. I find the office, completely emptified. Probably 10,000 sq feet gone without a trace. Looking further, half the building empty.

Scary.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 05, 2023 02:43 PM (enJYY)

160 I continue to believe the abortion rallying cry is merely cover for the steal. I doubt the issue really changes many voters' minds. But it's very useful for explaining how Democraps suddenly and inexplicably crush it at the ballot box. Rather than admit they stole the election, Dems instead pretend there was this huge swath of new Democrap voters who wouldn't otherwise have voted, but for abortion. It's bullshit.

fully agree

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2023 02:43 PM (AcWfM)

161 "Peas, peas, peas, peas, eating goober peas
Goodness how delicious, eating goober peas"

Aide in the form of a sing along to states that voted Trump

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 05, 2023 02:44 PM (0EOe9)

162 John Kerry says we must shut down all coal-fired power plants NOW!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2023 02:44 PM (63Dwl)

163 I know sock and everything, but anyone else noticed that you have to add a zero to that to get to the level of a beater now? We were looking at a potential replacement for a minivan of ours that is having leaking from either the window or the trunk. The only thing available that was 2015 or newer for "only" $15K were Mazda minivans that I hadn't ever heard of.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (a/dOO)

A beater isn’t a 2015 minivan it’s a 2002 Civic.
Mazda made the MPV for about 30 years.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (WY6dk)

164 Supply is really low in most areas, helping costs stay up.

Most sales these days are Cash sales. Upwards of 60% or so...

I would not be buying a home with anything more than I could afford in a cash payment, in this environment.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (/S2W0)

In my small sample size (my neighborhood), supply is ample, with many of the sales happening because of retirements, and people wanting to get out of the high costs of NOVA. People buying tend to be with kids. Not sure how much cash they are bringing to the table, when the low price house in my neighborhood is going for $750K, unremodeled?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (ntk8v)

165 I understood Bidenomics to be "get a public position, send your kid out to collect bribes, sort of hide the bribes in family bank accounts, and own the media so noone says anything about all the stuff you own that you couldn't afford on your salary "

Posted by: azjaeger at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (Hic67)

166 116 Since we already had two quarters of negative growth and the numbers are forged anyway, we should expect MUCH worse than a nominal recession they can define away.
Posted by: Catherine
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On the road again
going places that I've never been
talking with my friends
gee it's good to be on the road again.

Haven't seen you in a while.
Good to see you.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (zzBMk)

167 Funflation is back!
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2023 02:24 PM (MGB5H)
******
The Biden administration has decided to call it MAGAnomics because evidently Biden has nothing to do with the economic situation we are in.
It's all Trump and the MAGA Republicans fault.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (NpAcC)

168 And of course they're also saying that we'll have a recession, two quarters of negative growth, in addition.

We'll make sure that doesn't happen.

Posted by: Federal Statistical Agencies! at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (YAtuc)

169 I continue to believe the abortion rallying cry is merely cover for the steal. I doubt the issue really changes many voters' minds. But it's very useful for explaining how Democraps suddenly and inexplicably crush it at the ballot box. Rather than admit they stole the election, Dems instead pretend there was this huge swath of new Democrap voters who wouldn't otherwise have voted, but for abortion. It's bullshit.

Kansas and Ohio votes say otherwise.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (WY6dk)

170 Moreso that all the cheating on the local and state levels?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (ynpvh)

A Republican Party that actually stood for something would have no problem articulating a viable position on abortion.

And you could say that about any number of issues. But it's easier I guess for some people think believe the Gope Party is held down by a position of opposing baby killing, rather than the fact the party is bankrupt, morally and electorally.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (dGCAG)

171 162 John Kerry says we must shut down all coal-fired power plants NOW!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2023 02:44 PM (63Dwl)

Yes, as winter nears, it's the perfect time!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (ynpvh)

172 It's been a fake economy for awhile now.
Posted by: Jim at December

Yes. I think 3.5 of the 5.2% growth was the G (going from memory)

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (FxH7T)

173 *BREAKNG* Uniparty wins. Again.

Tommy Tuberville, who bravely fought them for months, just retreated on holding up promotions for most of the woke officers of todays military. He still is holding up the big brass, though.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (c72m5)

174 Greenies don't want our own oil. And 1000 dollar barrels would be fine to them

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (bK35d)

175 John Kerrt is like Butters on South Park… or Pip… while allowed to hang around, no one really gives a shit about what he says anymore..

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (PCK5/)

176 I am wondering how residential real estate prices are holding steady? Homes are still selling in my gulag neighborhood.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (ntk8v)

The federal government pays relatively well and they aren't laying off anyone. In fact, I'll bet government employment is increasing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (3Gtis)

177 The United States is among at least 60 countries backing a pledge on Tuesday to cut cooling-related emissions by 2050, U.S. State Department officials said at the U.N. climate summit in Dubai.

The Global Cooling Pledge would mark the world's first collective focus on energy emissions from the cooling sector. It calls for countries to reduce by 2050 their cooling-related emissions by at least 68% compared to 2022 levels.

It's a tough task, given the cooling industry is only expected to grow as temperatures continue to climb.

With installed cooling capacity set to triple by 2050, cooling emissions are expected to surge to between 4.4 billion and 6.1 billion metric tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent by 2050, according to a report published on Tuesday by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). That would equal one-tenth of expected global emissions, the report said, and would strain electric grids.

More solar! Residential and commercial building cooling emissions can be reduced easily with more solar and possibly battery backup. I don't know enough to work out an obvious solution for industrial cooling emissions reduction beyond "more solar"!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

178 I do because it’s an albatross around the GOP.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (WY6dk)

It certainly is a wedge issue, isn't it.

I won't put words in AOP's mouth, so I will say you talk a lot about wedge issues, and how important they are.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (D7oie)

179 The Biden administration has decided to call it MAGAnomics because evidently Biden has nothing to do with the economic situation we are in.
It's all Trump and the MAGA Republicans fault.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (NpAcC)
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This happens at least once a Dem term.

Yet the Demedia will run with it. The alternative would be to admit that commies want to ruin your standard of living for The Revolution.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (krQz2)

180 162 John Kerry says we must shut down all coal-fired power plants NOW!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2023 02:44 PM (63Dwl)

We'll get right on that, John.

*laughs uproariously in Mandarin*

Posted by: The CCP at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (PiwSw)

181 The stock market is not reflective of the economy as a whole, and it will come down - possibly by a lot.

You may have noticed that a lot of bellwether companies are seeing lower profits despite higher prices. Unlike Biden's assertions of price-gouging, a lot of enterprises are seeing margin compression. Prices are going up, but not enough to fully offset the rising costs of inputs. This will be squeezed out in job losses (especially uneconomic jobs like diversity officers and coordinators and whatnot) but stocks will comes down, too. Earnings are down, and so will prices be, eventually. Not to mention the erosion in earnings due to higher costs of money (interest) and erosion in prices as things like buyouts and other stock-based trading also get more expensive for the same reason.

Stocks will hold up better than some asset classes because they can also be a way to beat inflation and, as BlackOrchid pointed out, the "close to money" thing. But it isn't invincible and will come down and possibly by a lot. The best possible outcome is sideways movement (essentially, stagnation of prices).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (d04cU)

182 I-uh, uh-I-uh,, h-h-have to-uh, to f-f-find out who-uh, w-who-uh is putting that stuff-uh, s-s-stuff on my computer,, computer screen to-uh,, to r-r-read

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (X4yCj)

183 "Tommy Tuberville" sounds like a Stan Lee Marvel character.

Posted by: Rajesh Koothrapali at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (T/Lqj)

184 Greenies don't want our own oil. And 1000 dollar barrels would be fine to them
Posted by: Skip

They need to pray they don't need any of the thousand things made from a barrel of oil.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (h8TYC)

185 The federal government pays relatively well and they aren't laying off anyone. In fact, I'll bet government employment is increasing.

There is some truth in that, but it's also true that many government employees are now priced out of decent neighborhoods in the DC suburbs.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (I/Qkd)

186 Translation: air conditioning costs are about to double.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (WY6dk)

187 If it wasn't for the bad knees and sketchy hip I would be ending my motor career on a Cub 50 Honda. And check out the EBay prices on those babies.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (0EOe9)

188
I continue to believe the abortion rallying cry is merely cover for the steal

Agree. Polls usually say that American support for abortion is decreasing steadily. Not likely it is the third rail of politics

Posted by: azjaeger at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (Hic67)

189 "This is Axios, which is Politico for the Developmentally Delayed. And I can't believe I just inadvertently suggested that Politico is not for the Developmentally Delayed."

==

Politico is for the Willfully Deluded.

Posted by: can of spam at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (7oNMO)

190 105 Subtle Like a Brick Through a Window – CIA Outlet Approves Donald Trump Assassination

https://tinyurl.com/3rdr2w6r
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 05, 2023 02:35 PM (IHzq/)

I'm hoping we can curtail this by recognizing we are in a fight for survival and ban together as is our Patriotic right might I say duty in such a fashion modeled after the current IDF/Hamas situation. I am also hoping the CIA ,Military Chiefs and Deep State Parasites get totally caught off guard by the shear strength and numbers of the engaged populace. Must have militias, military enlisted and retired that are keeping the oath and a surprise addition that is happening now are black citizens notably black males..
Trump is the catalist...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (7cPAc)

191 177
...
With installed cooling capacity set to triple by 2050, cooling emissions are expected to surge to between 4.4 billion and 6.1 billion metric tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent by 2050, according to a report published on Tuesday by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). That would equal one-tenth of expected global emissions, the report said, and would strain electric grids.

More solar! Residential and commercial building cooling emissions can be reduced easily with more solar and possibly battery backup. I don't know enough to work out an obvious solution for industrial cooling emissions reduction beyond "more solar"!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

Are any of these idiots doing without air conditioning in the summer or heating in the winter?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

192 John Kerry says we must shut down all coal-fired power plants NOW!

Even more insanely, the Biden Administration is moving to start taking out the Pacific Northwest hydroelectric dams, starting with the four on the Snake River.

They intend to give billions to Indian tribes to build "renewables", on the basis that unreliable wind and solar can replace reliable hydropower.

Hint: it can't.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (YAtuc)

193 If abortion is the core issue for you, you're already mindlessly voting for one party or the other, without regard to the fact that the issue is settled and will never change, because its just an autonomic nervous response to campaign advertising for you.

Nothing that happens with abortion, or anything else, will move those base voters, and it's a low priority for everyone else - but then, so is voting.

All of this bullshit is just theater. Nothing could matter any less than a public policy debate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (0FoWg)

194 End up buying gasoline from the guy I buy weed from.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (J8LnB)

Watch out which one you spark up on, man. You could wind up like a Buddhist priest in Hanoi.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (D7oie)

195 Aren't investment firms buying up a bunch of residential properties? I read that online so it must be true.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (fKIdX)

196 ban/band

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (7cPAc)

197 Yes, as winter nears, it's the perfect time!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
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Energy density is just a nerd thing!

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (krQz2)

198 178 I do because it’s an albatross around the GOP.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:40 PM (WY6dk)

It certainly is a wedge issue, isn't it.

I won't put words in AOP's mouth, so I will say you talk a lot about wedge issues, and how important they are.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (D7oie)

Wise to only put that in her mouth; those teeth could shear a tree limb.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

199 @ #145: That's going to be fun. Everywhere I look, buildings are empty. Depending on the city, more buildings are empty than occupied.

Well, heck; gotta put those poor hordes of illegals---sorry, I meant "migrants," of course---somewhere.

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (PkFjB)

200 If the GOP would just be the Democrats on abortion, they'd be the biggest hit since Thriller.

Okay, I'll bite.

Remind me, what are the GOP's shiny, appealing positions that are obscured by its (ostensible) commitment to not murdering womb occupiers?

We need to get back to talking about capital gains taxes?

I do recall Trump having some broadly popular positions before Covid took over. But the GOP hates those positions as much as Democrats.

I'm a squish on abortion (pro-life generally but willing to make some exceptions and the issue is not a big priority for me).

But I don't see what the GOP would gain by being pro-choice. You think single Karens love our tax policy and want to come aboard but their luscious, fertile wombs just won't let them?

Posted by: I'm kinda skeptical at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (ttzpt)

201 BLS (Bullshit Liars Service) has so far adjusted every single number in the rear view mirror to worse then originally published. But people know the reality. They aren't reading the print, they are living it. Core inflation has probably peaked, but the question is how fast will it get to the Fed target. We shall see what happens when it comes time to raise or hold the rates again. Irrespective I see a general malaise on the horizon. We are already technically in a recession. Consumer spending has stabilized by there is a lot of credit out there and Commercial Real Estate is blowing up. Add to that a lot of the Blue States are running out of money and will probably raise taxes again. With energy prices high, I don't see any drop in prices coming soon and with consumers tapped out, that means things probably won't get better in 2024.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (XASq/)

202 I won't put words in AOP's mouth, so I will say you talk a lot about wedge issues, and how important they are.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (D7oie)

OK pretend it’s not killing us with women. Whatever.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (WY6dk)

203 If the Atlanta Fed is pushing this, then it probably means only one thing: they are planning to cut rates to prop up Biden

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 05, 2023 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

204
Fact: A handle of cheap vodka is still only$10.89, the pot dispensary is handing out free pre-rolls, fentanyl is like a quarter a tab, and hobo is way less gristly than it was last year.

Cheer up and count the many blessings you can just take out of the Rite-Aid without even paying!

Posted by: Auspex at December 05, 2023 02:50 PM (j4U/Z)

205 The lie -- that they're actually wealthier than they were before -- is "too philosophical and complicated" because it requires accepting a host of false premises to accept. False premises like "you're not unemployed, you're funemployed" or "inflation is really Winflation."

perhaps our minds are *too* highly trained, majikthise.

Posted by: vroomfondel at December 05, 2023 02:50 PM (oY6Yp)

206 The federal government pays relatively well and they aren't laying off anyone. In fact, I'll bet government employment is increasing.

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The federal government is also building new buildings. Gambling and the federal government are basically recession proof.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 05, 2023 02:50 PM (sX1BW)

207 197 Yes, as winter nears, it's the perfect time!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
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Energy density is just a nerd thing!

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (krQz2)

YOu cannot exceed the density of a prog.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:50 PM (ynpvh)

208 A beater isn’t a 2015 minivan it’s a 2002 Civic.
Mazda made the MPV for about 30 years.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:45 PM (WY6dk)

If you've had a minivan that's actually been used as a minivan, 8 years is when things are breaking down and the interior is trashed. We have a 2007 that we're looking at having to replace. If we're spending $10K, we'd expect to get a something that's not over a decade old, especially a Mazda that's over a decade old.

That used to not be a problem.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (a/dOO)

209 Supply is really low in most areas, helping costs stay up.

Most sales these days are Cash sales. Upwards of 60% or so...

I would not be buying a home with anything more than I could afford in a cash payment, in this environment.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:38 PM (/S2W0)
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Depends on market, but real estate prices are being shored up by extremely small inventory (tight supply). With mortgage money at *least* five points higher than it was three years ago, the prices can't be supported by earnings in a lot of markets anymore. Most people don't buy houses, they buy a payment. If your payment capacity is $2,000, it's $2,000. If rates go up, that payment buys "less house."

Since we haven't seen much "forced selling" where the owner *must* sell (job loss, divorce, mandatory relocation, layoff and underemployment, etc.), inventories have collapsed instead and that provides price support. Nothing is on the market, so prices remain high because supply is constrained by the choice of the owners who know they're stuck if they sell.

When forced selling starts (likely coincident with major layoff activity), look out below.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (d04cU)

210 The opening sentence of this post is perfect.

Posted by: kallisto at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (dCxaZ)

211 The people out there going wages are up, you have more money, stop saying things are bad are so annoying.

I buy groceries. I see my rent increase. I see my investment account still isn't all the way back. All of those things exist in reality. Stop telling me I am making it up.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (/jVpY)

212 The economy is like a child: nice smelling hair, pleasing features- eager and ready to blossom under the right conditions. Humid warmth, gentle (bordering on loverly care); then vigorous groping, manipulation, and genital trauma will fix the future for all mankind.

Give me two IV bags of adrenochrome, and your vote in November and this economy will take off like Hunter/meth/hooker.

Posted by: Pedo Joe at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (j8yCO)

213 Tommy Tuberville, who bravely fought them for months, just retreated on holding up promotions for most of the woke officers of todays military. He still is holding up the big brass, though.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (c72m5)

Everyone's got skeletons in their closet. Some, it just takes longer for Big Tech and the FBI to find it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

214 Why does this post make no sense?
Posted by: Jason

Oil price is largely comprised of future output.

Cutting/holding supply also affects the price.

This isn't that hard.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (FxH7T)

215 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:
https://is.gd/7FoVPB

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (d04cU)

216 Polls usually say that American support for abortion is decreasing steadily. Not likely it is the third rail of politics
Posted by: azjaeger at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (Hic67)

====

True, but political messaging going into elections has been piss poor, leading to results like we saw in Ohio. We know what the other side is going to say and yet seem unprepared to handle it other than stand around stammering that it's untrue without actually punching back on it.

Posted by: can of spam at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (7oNMO)

217 The federal government pays relatively well and they aren't laying off anyone. In fact, I'll bet government employment is increasing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (3Gtis)

Plenty of retirements are happening, and no one is replacing the Feds that retire. Contractors are being used more frequently. We have 4-5 positions open, and can't fill. My nephew, just left Fed Employment, and said in his former organization, nobody is backfilling the people who are leaving. Reliance on contractors is the way forward for many Fed organizations, it seems.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (ntk8v)

218 Happy with my 19 year old Camry..

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (PCK5/)

219 211 The people out there going wages are up, you have more money, stop saying things are bad are so annoying.

I buy groceries. I see my rent increase. I see my investment account still isn't all the way back. All of those things exist in reality. Stop telling me I am making it up.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (/jVpY)

If the rise in costs exceeds the rise in income, you're losing, not winning.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (ynpvh)

220 The federal government is also building new buildings. Gambling and the federal government are basically recession proof.
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Usury and Pron are forever.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (ntk8v)

221 The Commercial Real Estate Bubble is going to send the Recession that is already baked into the Biden Policies, into Warp Speed.
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 02:30 PM (/S2W0)
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CRE is likely going to be a monumental disaster.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:53 PM (d04cU)

222 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:

But don't you dare suggest she's selling sex for that yacht vacation.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:53 PM (I/Qkd)

223 215 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:
https://is.gd/7FoVPB

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (d04cU)

That's quite a sheer bottom half...Definitely NSFW.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:53 PM (ynpvh)

224 Biden's campaign commercials have been popping up on television from time to time, and they must be setting records for the amount of unadulterated b.s. they're hawking. "Working to make the middle class stronger...fighting inflation...getting the job done".

Seriously, whenever one of these things comes on, and I'm too slow to hit the mute button on my remote, I feel as if I'd been walking along, minding my own business, when someone decided to empty a chamber pot full of night soil on my head.

Posted by: Paco at December 05, 2023 02:53 PM (njExo)

225 Plenty of retirements are happening, and no one is replacing the Feds that retire. Contractors are being used more frequently. We have 4-5 positions open, and can't fill. My nephew, just left Fed Employment, and said in his former organization, nobody is backfilling the people who are leaving. Reliance on contractors is the way forward for many Fed organizations, it seems.

Don't bother. There are those here who will never believe government employment isn't always the Elysian Fields.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (I/Qkd)

226 222 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:

But don't you dare suggest she's selling sex for that yacht vacation.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:53 PM (I/Qkd)

She's well invested for the ups and downs of her career.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (ynpvh)

227 OK pretend it’s not killing us with women. Whatever.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (WY6dk)

It's not. It's killing us with single white women. Good riddance. Political coalitions change. They are out, and not worth trying to bring back in. If they get married and have kids, they come back to the fold, proportionally speaking.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (5C4od)

228 This happens at least once a Dem term.

Yet the Demedia will run with it. The alternative would be to admit that commies want to ruin your standard of living for The Revolution.
Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (krQz2)
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And many will believe it. Just like people still believe the Republicans are the party of the rich.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (NpAcC)

229 91 53 Could Joe define and explain Bidenomics?

Near as I can tell, it's "spend money you don't have".

Great. The US economy is based on "girl math" now.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 05, 2023 02:33 PM (oCS0o)

A lot of the money we don't have that was authorized by the Infrastructure and Inflation Reduction Bills is scheduled to be spent in 2024. (Pure coincidence!) So the Junta may be able to keep bragging every month about more Biden-created jobs, lower unemployment, higher GDP, and higher average wages, while the average person's financial situation gets worse and worse due to inflation, higher and higher energy prices, and higher interest rates. You should expect the "You never had it so good!" messaging to continue, no matter how financially strapped everyone gets. Excluding Our Betters.

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (5fDan)

230 Cutting/holding supply also affects the price.

This isn't that hard.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (FxH7T)
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Neither is figuring out that the CRA builds a house of cards.

Especially when combined with market-value asset accounting.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (krQz2)

231 This is why it matters.

Young Voters See Abortion as Key Motivating Factor, Poll Finds

Young voters overall appear less motivated to vote in next year’s presidential elections – except when the issue of abortion is on the ballot.
By Susan Milligan
Dec. 5, 2023

https://tinyurl.com/4jap8p4m

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (WY6dk)

232 222 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:

But don't you dare suggest she's selling sex for that yacht vacation.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2023 02:53 PM (I/Qkd)

Monetize, monetize, monetize….

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (PCK5/)

233 Real estate depends on the market. In suburban NY, especially outside NYC many of the homes have grown in value. The listing don't last very long when you have lots of people with cash looking to get out of the city, which is falling apart. Saving money on NYC tax alone, is good enough for some. Even though NY is a high tax states and has lost net over 2 million people since 2012, the in state dynamic of people playing musical chairs isn't subsiding.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (XASq/)

234 A recession next year? Haven't we been in one since mid-2021, or even before?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (J2vNu)

235 213 Tommy Tuberville, who bravely fought them for months, just retreated on holding up promotions for most of the woke officers of todays military. He still is holding up the big brass, though.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 05, 2023 02:46 PM (c72m5)

Everyone's got skeletons in their closet. Some, it just takes longer for Big Tech and the FBI to find it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

Tuberville is the pick of the Senate GOP freshman class. He had almost no support among his colleagues. I'm still a fan.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (4j1D9)

236 I continue to believe the abortion rallying cry is merely cover for the steal. I doubt the issue really changes many voters' minds. But it's very useful for explaining how Democraps suddenly and inexplicably crush it at the ballot box. Rather than admit they stole the election, Dems instead pretend there was this huge swath of new Democrap voters who wouldn't otherwise have voted, but for abortion. It's bullshit.

fully agree
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2023 02:43 PM (AcWfM)

With the benefit to both sides that they get to blame Christians and social conservatives.

Hi Braenyard.

I don't comment much 'cause life, but I'm always watching!

Posted by: Catherine at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (kDkXZ)

237 The Biden administration’s move to indefinitely close the Lukeville Port of Entry is just one more sign that this president has no clue how to get control of that hunk of Swiss cheese we call a border.

Arizona officials are irate, as they should be.

Posted by: SMOD at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (RHGPo)

238 Pot dispensaries, high interest loan companies, and Asian massage parlors. That's the ticket if you need to get into the strip mall biz in east Oklahoma.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (0EOe9)

239 Are any of these idiots doing without air conditioning in the summer or heating in the winter?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I was in Germany during the 2003 heat wave. TONS of elderly Europeans died from the excessive heat (wiki says about 72,000). To a greenie, that's a win-win: less money on cooling, and less people emitting CO2. Hell, for the government, that's a lot less benefits to pay out to no-longer productive members of society.

It struck in the summer, with most hospital staff on holiday...and they couldn't be recalled by law, so the people died, and temporary morgues had to be set up to store the bodies. Good times, reminding us of what a socialist government's care looks like.

Posted by: Military Moron at December 05, 2023 02:56 PM (JCZqz)

240 Yet the Demedia will run with it. The alternative would be to admit that commies want to ruin your standard of living for The Revolution.
Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (krQz2)
********
And many will believe it. Just like people still believe the Republicans are the party of the rich.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 05, 2023 02:54 PM (NpAcC)
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Well, you still find--all the time--maybe Republicans are right--but they're so icky type of thinking in so many places.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:56 PM (krQz2)

241 Yeah, I know sock and everything, but anyone else noticed that you have to add a zero to that to get to the level of a beater now? We were looking at a potential replacement for a minivan of ours that is having leaking from either the window or the trunk. The only thing available that was 2015 or newer for "only" $15K were Mazda minivans that I hadn't ever heard of.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 05, 2023 02:41 PM (a/dOO)

Well, there's your category error right there. Cars last a lot longer than they used to do. Engines last longer, bodies don't rust out as fast. Styling doesn't change as fast, either. So a 2015 car is still a "late-model used car" and retains some value. Beaters start around 15 years old now. There is still plenty or reliable transportation for moderate dollars in the 15 to 20 year age range.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 02:56 PM (3QCA5)

242 >>John Kerry says we must shut down all coal-fired power plants NOW!

City of Austin, TX owns a coal fired power plant in Fayette County (La Grange, TX). The city council voted a few years ago to shut it down by the end of 2022.

Then February 2021 hit and Texas froze. Austin made a boat load of money off that plant because of the freeze.

That plant is gowing as strong as ever.

Posted by: DanMan at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (8uzBS)

243 239 Are any of these idiots doing without air conditioning in the summer or heating in the winter?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I was in Germany during the 2003 heat wave. TONS of elderly Europeans died from the excessive heat (wiki says about 72,000). To a greenie, that's a win-win: less money on cooling, and less people emitting CO2. Hell, for the government, that's a lot less benefits to pay out to no-longer productive members of society.

It struck in the summer, with most hospital staff on holiday...and they couldn't be recalled by law, so the people died, and temporary morgues had to be set up to store the bodies. Good times, reminding us of what a socialist government's care looks like.

Posted by: Military Moron at December 05, 2023 02:56 PM (JCZqz)

The advantage of it happening in winter is you can store the bodies outside.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (ynpvh)

244 Nothing that happens with abortion, or anything else, will move those base voters, and it's a low priority for everyone else - but then, so is voting.

All of this bullshit is just theater. Nothing could matter any less than a public policy debate.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (0FoWg)

It's vote-counting, all the way down.

And will be until it all collapses.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (dGCAG)

245 OK pretend it’s not killing us with women. Whatever.
Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 02:49 PM (WY6dk)

which women? The ones who will never vote R because "I hate you daddy"? The ones with advanced degrees that know the French Revolution's reign of terror was essential to creating the modern forms of government? Those ones? The ones who don't have kids but "care so deeply?"

Yeah, moderating on abortion will turn those.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (D7oie)

246 216 Polls usually say that American support for abortion is decreasing steadily. Not likely it is the third rail of politics
Posted by: azjaeger at December 05, 2023 02:48 PM (Hic67)

It's simple..All a politician needs to say when confronted with the Abortion issue is to say the SCOTUS settled it and it is up to the States... Then say it is up to their constituents votes on the matter..

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (n2vyf)

247 CRE was already headed for a meltdown before COVID. It is going to be a nightmare now.

If the rise in costs exceeds the rise in income, you're losing, not winning.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (ynpvh)

I got a generous raise last year. That was wiped out and then more by how much my rent went up.

My parents are looking at going into assisted living soon which means the house will be on the market. I am the trustee of the trust the house is in and thus have an obligation to get as much money as quickly as possible. I do not want to sell to an investment group and I know damn well that will likely be who puts in the best bid. And I will be obliged to take it.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (/jVpY)

248 One of the quintessential thoughts of "conservatism" is resistance to the very successful feeling that conservatives are icky.

Watch Bill Maher.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (krQz2)

249 There ain't no "us," and abortion isn't killing the GOP. The GOP is. T for years, they've been prancing around in leather onesies, making muffled-but-loud demands around their ball gags for every single one of their voters to stay home forever.

Don't credit Margaret Sanger for the RNC's yeoman efforts in this arena.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (0FoWg)

250 (i)215 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:
https://is.gd/7FoVPB(/i)

WTF, Sis?! That was not to be opened b4 Christmas!

Posted by: Hunter B at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (j8yCO)

251 The advantage of it happening in winter is you can store the bodies outside.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (ynpvh)

But the bears are in hibernation. Early Spring would be better. The bears come out... hungry.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (dGCAG)

252 Real estate depends on the market. In suburban NY, especially outside NYC many of the homes have grown in value. The listing don't last very long when you have lots of people with cash looking to get out of the city, which is falling apart. Saving money on NYC tax alone, is good enough for some. Even though NY is a high tax states and has lost net over 2 million people since 2012, the in state dynamic of people playing musical chairs isn't subsiding.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (XASq/)
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Yup. All real estate is local and local movement patterns matter a lot, but the market in general is going to fall rapidly once inventory pours on.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (d04cU)

253 247...

My parents are looking at going into assisted living soon which means the house will be on the market. I am the trustee of the trust the house is in and thus have an obligation to get as much money as quickly as possible. I do not want to sell to an investment group and I know damn well that will likely be who puts in the best bid. And I will be obliged to take it.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (/jVpY)

I keep getting calls; where the hell will I live if I sell my house? The last guy that called, I asked how he got my number; he hung up.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (ynpvh)

254 John Kerry hates humanity and wants about 95% of it/us dead. Once you wrap your brain around that fact everything he does makes sense.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (MeG8a)

255 ++++
Yup. All real estate is local and local movement patterns matter a lot, but the market in general is going to fall rapidly once inventory pours on.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (d04cU)

Houses are still selling well here even with the high interest rates

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (n2vyf)

256 234 A recession next year? Haven't we been in one since mid-2021, or even before?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! Fake news! It's only a recession if the National Bureau of Economic Research says so!!! Biden’s economy and Bidenomics are amazing!

Posted by: Economic Leftards at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (JCZqz)

257 President Bidum is trying so hard to end the Trump Recession. We needs to give him four more years to fix Trump's problems.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (VYql4)

258 I'm retiring in January. Friggin great.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (gmo/4)

259 The CRE meltdown is about the consolidation of CRE into fewer hands. The rich get richer.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (sX1BW)

260 251 The advantage of it happening in winter is you can store the bodies outside.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (ynpvh)

But the bears are in hibernation. Early Spring would be better. The bears come out... hungry.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (dGCAG)

True, but the bodies smell better when stored in the outside icebox.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

261 You have to be a complete idiot to think abortion is the driving issue. It's not attracting anyone more than the usual suspects. It's also pretty easily explained but most of the GOP are mouth breathing reactive idiots. The voting patterns can be explained by a lot of things, but it's mostly continued GOP incompetence underwritten once again by Rona McDaniel.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (XASq/)

262 Houses are still selling well here even with the high interest rates
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (n2vyf)
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How's your inventory?

In my market, they sell fast (not as fast as last year or the year before) and the prices are still being supported, but the market is *tiny.* Very, very little inventory as compared to prior years. The price support and transaction times are held up by low inventory in a lot of places (including mine).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (d04cU)

263 I buy groceries. I see my rent increase. I see my investment account still isn't all the way back. All of those things exist in reality. Stop telling me I am making it up.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (/jVpY)

You have seen the meme of one man peeing on another, with the caption, "The rain, it is warm, it must be global warming!"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (D7oie)

264 254 John Kerry hates humanity and wants about 95% of it/us dead. Once you wrap your brain around that fact everything he does makes sense.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

I suppose that's harsh, but understandable, considering how humans have treated horses over the years.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (JCZqz)

265 How's your inventory?

Moderate

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (n2vyf)

266 I was in Germany during the 2003 heat wave. TONS of elderly Europeans died from the excessive heat (wiki says about 72,000). To a greenie, that's a win-win: less money on cooling, and less people emitting CO2.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:57 PM (ynpvh)
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Matt Dillahunty believes that secularists provide a much better argument for "human worth" than theists.

What is "worth"? Roughly (it's in the word), turn(around).

If people don't think it's worth their time and effort it to bring another human into the world, how much worth can humans have?

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (krQz2)

267 More solar! Residential and commercial building cooling emissions can be reduced easily with more solar and possibly battery backup. I don't know enough to work out an obvious solution for industrial cooling emissions reduction beyond "more solar"!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 05, 2023 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

You want to reduce cooling-related emissions? Re-permit the banned refrigerants R12 and R22, which are more thermodynamically efficient than their lame substitutes, and reduce the fuel consumption needed to power the cooling units.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (3QCA5)

268 Real estate is local in the short term. But it’s very rare for any area to go against the national trend long term. Every market crashed i07-11 the timing was just different.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 03:02 PM (WY6dk)

269 I don't believe abortion is a driving issue. I believe abortion is an *excuse* that people who are committed to always voting D give for always voting D.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 03:02 PM (fKIdX)

270 Buy high, sell low ?

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (V13WU)

271 I don't believe abortion is a driving issue. I believe abortion is an *excuse* that people who are committed to always voting D give for always voting D.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 03:02 PM (fKIdX)
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Boom.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (krQz2)

272 Bidenomics says so much with just one word

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (IBDwy)

273 I continue to believe the abortion rallying cry is merely cover for the steal. I doubt the issue really changes many voters' minds. But it's very useful for explaining how Democraps suddenly and inexplicably crush it at the ballot box. Rather than admit they stole the election, Dems instead pretend there was this huge swath of new Democrap voters who wouldn't otherwise have voted, but for abortion. It's bullshit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 05, 2023 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

———

I agree. I won’t post the numbers again but if you look at the demographics there are simply not enough “single women” voters out there. Even if all the single women voted Democrat it’s still a 10% advantage to Republicans.

57% of married women vote Republican.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (cMXNt)

274 "Yup. All real estate is local and local movement patterns matter a lot, but the market in general is going to fall rapidly once inventory pours on.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (d04cU)"

Mmm, not always. That why I said it depends. There has to be inventory to put on. If you're in a high demand area that's had a lot of turnover in a desirable area, the only thing rates dropping does is bring in more buyers. Last time that happened we literally had auctions on houses with a starting price.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (XASq/)

275 Global Warming is causing Global Warming...........

Posted by: John Kerry at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (1t11C)

276 Everyone's got skeletons in their closet. Some, it just takes longer for Big Tech and the FBI to find it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

Tuberville is the pick of the Senate GOP freshman class. He had almost no support among his colleagues. I'm still a fan.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2023 02:55 PM (4j1D9)

Yeah, I'm just spreading general sarcasm. I don't know how anyone decides what they're going to do in the Senate, and there's probably a logical explanation for changing one's position on something like this.

I don't know what it is. But it COULD be someone showed him some photos, and told him they still have the negatives.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:04 PM (dGCAG)

277 270 Buy high, sell low ?

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (V13WU)

How to make a small fortune in investing: start with a large one and follow that strategy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:04 PM (ynpvh)

278 Global Warming is causing Global Warming...........

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Leading to the coldest winter on record.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 05, 2023 03:04 PM (sX1BW)

279 It's simple..All a politician needs to say when confronted with the Abortion issue is to say the SCOTUS settled it and it is up to the States... Then say it is up to their constituents votes on the matter..
Posted by: It's me donna

Ahem

Miss Lindsay

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 05, 2023 03:05 PM (FxH7T)

280 Secret of money?

10% for the Big Guy.

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at December 05, 2023 03:05 PM (krQz2)

281 273
...

57% of married women vote Republican.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (cMXNt)

My wife is a registered Dem, but votes Rep. One year we each got fliers for voting; the fliers were different, but came from the same address...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:05 PM (ynpvh)

282 Miss Lindsay
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 05, 2023 03:05 PM (FxH7T)

I know... I said what a politician "should" do

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 03:05 PM (n2vyf)

283 Houses are still selling well here even with the high interest rates
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (n2vyf)

Houses are selling everywhere. Even during the worst housing recessions there are houses sold. What matters is relative to last year or two years ago. How much is selling? And how long does it take for the median sale? And the answer in the vast majority of markets is less is sold now than a year ago and time in the market is longer.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 03:05 PM (WY6dk)

284 Fine, I'll give. It's totally reasonable to expect to pay $7000 for a 2002 Chrysler Town and Country (actual listing on Cars.com in my area) to replace our 2007 Toyota Sienna that we paid $15,000 used back in 2008. Because goodness knows that the early 2000s Chrysler and Dodges that didn't have any rear windows that opened/vented and no air vents for the back either are totally reliable and great replacements for a freaking Sienna.

Tell me you haven't had driven an every-seat-occupied minivan into the ground without telling me that you haven't driven an every-seat-occupied minivan into the ground.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (a/dOO)

285 264 254 John Kerry hates humanity and wants about 95% of it/us dead. Once you wrap your brain around that fact everything he does makes sense.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

I suppose that's harsh, but understandable, considering how humans have treated horses over the years.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (JCZqz)

He's been saddled with a great responsibility

Posted by: Taggart at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (og5mY)

286 My son's 5th grade teacher looks like Rachel McAdams from the time travelers wife. Holy cow.

Posted by: Mishdog at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (IgqWM)

287 Recently retired neighbor living in a $600+K condo in Massachusetts says she and her husband can't afford anything anymore and none of her retired friends can either and it's ridiculous and what are they all supposed to do. No mention of Biden. I referred to the inflation we've had "for the last three years," still no mention of Biden. It's all a mystery!

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (qUkBO)

288 272 Bidenomics says so much with just one word

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (IBDwy)

Yup. It's about the Gov't going on a spending spree like a junkie, while at the same time screwing over our children.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (ynpvh)

289 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

290 How to make a small fortune in investing: start with a large one and follow that strategy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:04 PM (ynpvh)

Marry rich old person !

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (V13WU)

291 (i)215 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:
https://is.gd/7FoVPB(/i)

——-

I’d bang, but what I want is irrelevant.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (cMXNt)

292 alternatively, marry old rich person...

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:07 PM (V13WU)

293 It’s not just single women voting for abortion.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 03:07 PM (WY6dk)

294 Simply existing in America under Joe Biden costs you $5 to $10,000 more a year than it did 4 years ago.

That's not a good economy, you f*cktards. That's anal rape of the lower and middle class.

EVERYTHING sucks under Biden. EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:07 PM (Zz0t1)

295 Mmm, not always. That why I said it depends. There has to be inventory to put on. If you're in a high demand area that's had a lot of turnover in a desirable area, the only thing rates dropping does is bring in more buyers. Last time that happened we literally had auctions on houses with a starting price.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2023 03:03 PM (XASq/)
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Sure. Go street-by-street (or zip code by zip code) and there will be variance. There is always is. And rates dropping will bring in more buyers and support higher prices - but rates *aren't* dropping. That's my point. Rising rates make it much, much harder to support current price levels and will also have consequences on big corporate property portfolios (those "all-cash offers from Company X" are backed by credit elsewhere).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)

296 Re:Abortion

An anecdote:

The Republican state senator from my district lost his re-election handily. His "boring" focus on the economy was drowned out by his opponent's "ABORTION BAN" ad blitzkrieg. This, combined with the apathy of the GOP "leadership" in defending these seats and a disillusioned voter base, is a big problem.

Abortion, GOP incompetence, vote fraud. All of the above.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (+7euU)

297 294 Simply existing in America under Joe Biden costs you $5 to $10,000 more a year than it did 4 years ago.

That's not a good economy, you f*cktards. That's anal rape of the lower and middle class.

EVERYTHING sucks under Biden. EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:07 PM (Zz0t1)

His VP has sucked for ages.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (ynpvh)

298 Recently retired neighbor living in a $600+K condo in Massachusetts says she and her husband can't afford anything anymore and none of her retired friends can either and it's ridiculous and what are they all supposed to do.

-----------

1. Move
2. Get a job.
3. Vote different.
4. Bitch and blame Trump.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (sX1BW)

299 Bidenomics says so much with just one word
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Brandonomics would be better.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (krQz2)

300 Posted by: Paul at December 05, 2023 03:07 PM (hgDJr)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

301 But the bears are in hibernation. Early Spring would be better. The bears come out... hungry.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (dGCAG)

True, but the bodies smell better when stored in the outside icebox.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

Oh, no doubt, but once the water treatment plants shut down, and the sewers overflow, rotting flesh smell won't be the worst thing we must encounter.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (dGCAG)

302 John Kerry as been wrong on everything and anything his whole life.

Why anyone cares what that asshead has to say is a mystery.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (mQ8ar)

303 Nearly half (46%) of all Americans 18-29 in the survey, and 56% of registered voters, said they will "definitely" vote if there is an abortion referendum on their state ballots next fall. Among those voters, the pro-abortion rights side dominates, with 64% of those calling themselves "pro-choice" saying they would vote in that case, and 34% of young voters who describe themselves as "pro-life" saying they would definitely vote under those circumstances.

Further, 22% of young voters who aren't committed to voting for president next year nonetheless say they would definitely vote on a state abortion referendum, an opportunity for candidates who would then need only convince those voters to make a choice for president while they were already filling out a ballot. Even among those who say they will "definitely not" vote for president in 2024 say they would show up if an abortion referendum is also on the ballot.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (WY6dk)

304 Apropos of something, I just got notices from credit card companies lowering my credit limit across all my cards.

I wonder what JP Morgan knows that I don't know?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (XV/Pl)

305
His VP has sucked for ages.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (ynpvh)

Your point is valid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

306 33 one of the trending items on social media recently was how bad Black Friday was -- sure there were lots of the usual comments about "corporate greed" because stores aren't having massive sales, but the overwhelming theme is "people are too broke for shopping" and "this economy sucks" with lots and lots of "please get rid of Biden" and "bring back Trump

////////////////

Didn't go to a store all Bf weekend, spent $70 online for things I really needed. Small spending. Let's see what the numbers will be for Christmas Spending

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (IBDwy)

307 I keep getting calls; where the hell will I live if I sell my house? The last guy that called, I asked how he got my number; he hung up.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (ynpvh)

Oh! Oh! I tell them I am not interested in selling just yet, but there is a woman who might be, she is maybe motivated to sell, she has indicated it might be for sale, her husband is slipping into dementia and her step son is having problems with the courts because of his addictions, and maybe you can look her up?

I tell them the address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, washington DC . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (D7oie)

308 Recently retired neighbor living in a $600+K condo in Massachusetts says she and her husband can't afford anything anymore and none of her retired friends can either and it's ridiculous and what are they all supposed to do.

Tell them, "Elections have consequences".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (h8TYC)

309 298 Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (sX1BW)

Enjoy the fruit of your Masshole democrat labors honey.

WINNING!

Yeah I am not invited to a lot of retirement home parties.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (X0I7i)

310 308 Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (h8TYC)

"You'd think they would be THANKING ME!"

//Emperor Urkle X

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:10 PM (X0I7i)

311 307
...

I tell them the address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, washington DC . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (D7oie)

Hah!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:10 PM (ynpvh)

312 But John Kerry, I won't have anything in my Christmas stocking then

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2023 03:11 PM (bK35d)

313 Apropos of something, I just got notices from credit card companies lowering my credit limit across all my cards.

I wonder what JP Morgan knows that I don't know?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (XV/Pl)
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That pressure is incoming and they are adjusting their exposure by reducing credit limits. My *guess* is that your limit is fairly high and you rarely approach it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 03:11 PM (d04cU)

314 1. Move
2. Get a job.
3. Vote different.
4. Bitch and blame Trump.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (sX1BW)

Massholes? Obviously they choose #4.

That, and the abortion issue. If it weren't for Trump and Rethuglicans wanted to control their shriveled up uteruses (uteri?), they could still pay for their condo with the wine cellar.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:11 PM (dGCAG)

315 I suppose that's harsh, but understandable, considering how humans have treated horses over the years.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (JCZqz)

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Gorka was interviewing Daniel Harris (conservative YouTube commentator AKA The Rageaholic or Razorfist (stylized as RazörFist) yesterday on his radio show, and the latter was goofing on Ann Coulter:

"Last time she popped up was when she finished second at The Preakness."

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 03:12 PM (aRma8)

316 314 Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:11 PM (dGCAG)

My ability to have natural lubricant in my bonus hole let alone a child is two decades past, but someone somewhere might judge me!

//Sophisticated Massholes

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:12 PM (X0I7i)

317 Oh, no doubt, but once the water treatment plants shut down, and the sewers overflow, rotting flesh smell won't be the worst thing we must encounter.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:08 PM (dGCAG)

Ah, I see you've been to Venice in the height of summer!

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2023 03:12 PM (gmo/4)

318 I keep getting calls; where the hell will I live if I sell my house? The last guy that called, I asked how he got my number; he hung up.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 02:59 PM (ynpvh)

Oh! Oh! I tell them I am not interested in selling just yet, but there is a woman who might be, she is maybe motivated to sell, she has indicated it might be for sale, her husband is slipping into dementia and her step son is having problems with the courts because of his addictions, and maybe you can look her up?

I tell them the address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, washington DC . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (D7oie)

You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

319 Apropos of something, I just got notices from credit card companies lowering my credit limit across all my cards.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (XV/Pl)

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Interesting.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (DRSnL)

320 313 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 03:11 PM (d04cU)

I think the next step for the Feds is to tell the USG to turn the presses off.

PAIN

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (X0I7i)

321 >>That's quite a sheer bottom half...Definitely NSFW.

Somebody get me an Engineer, these Sheer Forces have ruined my pants!

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (/S2W0)

322 You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)
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Ugh. My dad can't not answer his phone.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (d04cU)

323 Gotta love the youngsters. They're apparently having less sex than the Japanese but hopeful enough that keeping the door open on baby murder is a priority.

Posted by: "Why aren't we all CEOs?" at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (ttzpt)

324 You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

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LOL, right? I only answer it if I know who it is.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (DRSnL)

325 22 year olds give no shit about politics. Tell them if they don’t vote they can’t fuck anymore, they show up to vote. It’s regarded but is reality. And pretending otherwise doesn’t help.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (WY6dk)

326 Tell me you haven't had driven an every-seat-occupied minivan into the ground without telling me that you haven't driven an every-seat-occupied minivan into the ground.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 05, 2023 03:06 PM (a/dOO)

A minivan would be my last choice for personal transportation. Last (and only) one I owned was a '96 Mercury clone of a Nissan minivan, which I bought cheap, repaired, and sold at a profit. It was a nice beater.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (3QCA5)

327 This busty brunette in her underwear is "close friends" with a number of plutocrats, so she isn't too worried about recession:
https://is.gd/7FoVPB
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 02:52 PM (d04cU)

I despise the corset/corset-like look on women. Takes away 99% of the sex appeal.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (BdMk6)

328 >>That's quite a sheer bottom half...Definitely NSFW.

I found the Cats!

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (/S2W0)

329 What is "worth"? Roughly (it's in the word), turn(around).

If people don't think it's worth their time and effort it to bring another human into the world, how much worth can humans have?
Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 03:01 PM (krQz2)

Maybe if it would pay more? I suspect overseas competition and scab labor is suppressing the wages.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (D7oie)

330 OT sorta Jimmy Yoo is posting to his internet channel.

His house blew up in VA, but he says he is in Cincy and has been for a while.

I left a post telling him to find an Ohio civil rights lawyer

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (X0I7i)

331 "so we (you and I, with decently performing stocks) are a bit closer to the central circle of "bidenomics" aka where the money is created. not as close as the govt and govt clients, but closer than ordinary working Americans."

And most of those BigCorps have gone woke, and support "globalism" and cheap foreign labor. Especially the BigTech giants and helping the DeepState enslave us..

We are funding the ropes with which they will hang us.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (Cus5s)

332 Gorka was interviewing Daniel Harris (conservative YouTube commentator AKA The Rageaholic or Razorfist (stylized as RazörFist)

AKA Angry StyxHexenhammer666

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (JCZqz)

333 324 You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

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LOL, right? I only answer it if I know who it is.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (DRSnL)

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And I, not even always then.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (N3zMI)

334 323 Gotta love the youngsters. They're apparently having less sex than the Japanese but hopeful enough that keeping the door open on baby murder is a priority.

Posted by: "Why aren't we all CEOs?" at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (ttzpt)

We have a solution.

Posted by: Oh Canada! at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (ynpvh)

335 But John Kerry, I won't have anything in my Christmas stocking then

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2023 03:11 PM (bK35d)

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A lump of solar FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (aRma8)

336 I would not be surprised to see the Saudis tank our economy just before next year's elections, just as a personal "fuck you" to Joe. It won't really be interfering in our politics, because I get the sense that it will be so much more personal than that. They could live with another Democrat - but Joe and his people have insulted them personally. They're not the forgiving type.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (w90eX)

337 That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)
++++
Ugh. My dad can't not answer his phone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (d04cU)

If I don't recognize the number I do not answer. if it's important they'll leave a voice message. If it's from an area code I don't recognize, even more so. Naw, I don't know anyone from Joplin, Missouri. Ignore.

Posted by: Rajesh Koothrapali at December 05, 2023 03:16 PM (T/Lqj)

338 I got my house because my realtor showed me it before it was technically on the market. When I was moving in last year, a mom and daughter pulled up to the truck I was unloading. "Are you moving, is this on the market yet," and so on. You have to be like a house-hunting alpha predator to get anything, even in a relative backwater like this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 03:16 PM (0FoWg)

339 333 324 You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

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LOL, right? I only answer it if I know who it is.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (DRSnL)

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And I, not even always then.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (N3zMI)

I once got a call whose caller ID was spoofed to be the very phone number being called. LOL

Posted by: Oh Canada! at December 05, 2023 03:16 PM (ynpvh)

340 Oops.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Aspiring Codger at December 05, 2023 03:16 PM (T/Lqj)

341 I despise the corset/corset-like look on women. Takes away 99% of the sex appeal.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

Gaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!

Posted by: The guy who always yells "Gaaaaaaaay" at December 05, 2023 03:16 PM (JCZqz)

342 off Euthanistic Sock.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:16 PM (ynpvh)

343 Paul is here.

And he is just in time to put the Tard back in Retard.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (/S2W0)

344 You guys answer your phone?

I'm reliably informed that hot milfs in my area want to meet. How can I not answer my phone?

Posted by: guy who believes the ads at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (ttzpt)

345 My ability to have natural lubricant in my bonus hole let alone a child is two decades past, but someone somewhere might judge me!

//Sophisticated Massholes
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:12 PM (X0I7i)

You know, it would be interesting to see what would happen, if the nation held a referendum on abortion, but as the screaming Karens all seem to want to suggest, those of us who don't have uteri, we don't get to vote.

However... whether you have one or not, if you aren't of child-bearing age, or otherwise are unable to have a child, you don't get to vote either.

Let's see how that goes.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (dGCAG)

346 343 Paul is here.

And he is just in time to put the Tard back in Retard.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (/S2W0)

And hanging by his own petard.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

347 I keep getting voicemails from guys with thick Russian accents.

My days as the world's greatest spy might be getting numbered.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2023 03:18 PM (gmo/4)

348
Senile Joe and the entire Dim Party should each receive a copy of Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose" right up their squeakholes.

"Milton Friedman's no longer in charge."

Thanks, jerk.

Hey, did you know that Senile Joe almost won Milton Friedman's Nobel Prize in Economics but backed out at the last minute cuz he had to play professional football! No joke!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2023 03:18 PM (QzZeQ)

349 I'm reliably informed that hot milfs in my area want to meet. How can I not answer my phone?
Posted by: guy who believes the ads at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (ttzpt)

Really?

So that's what I'm doing wrong.....

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:18 PM (dGCAG)

350 344 You guys answer your phone?

I'm reliably informed that hot milfs in my area want to meet. How can I not answer my phone?

Posted by: guy who believes the ads at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (ttzpt)

Hot flashes make for hot Milfs?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:18 PM (ynpvh)

351 I have to answer my phone. My landline is the number I have used for biz contacts for well over 30 years.

I get calls from people looking to sell me guitars that I may have appraised that long ago.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (/S2W0)

352 345 Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (dGCAG)

I have a somewhat controversial posit that is not "BANHAMMER!" acidic.

We are stuck in this clusterfuck because a lot of people aged 45 and older spent the last 20 years relitigating their childhood and early adulthoods.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (X0I7i)

353 Hot flashes make for hot Milfs?
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (Kdi1r)

354 However... whether you have one or not, if you aren't of child-bearing age, or otherwise are unable to have a child, you don't get to vote either.

Let's see how that goes.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:17 PM (dGCAG)

I suspect many of the pro-aborts are young males with zipper problems, and they don't want to be on the hook for child support. Needless to say, none will ever admit that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (3QCA5)

355 348
Senile Joe and the entire Dim Party should each receive a copy of Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose" right up their squeakholes.

"Milton Friedman's no longer in charge."

Thanks, jerk.

Hey, did you know that Senile Joe almost won Milton Friedman's Nobel Prize in Economics but backed out at the last minute cuz he had to play professional football! No joke!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2023 03:18 PM (QzZeQ)

His position was helmet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (ynpvh)

356 I get calls from people looking to sell me guitars that I may have appraised that long ago.
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garrett, do you play?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (Kdi1r)

357 That must be the reason that almost everybody and their brother and sister was at the supermarket. They must be trying to stock up before the recession. Actually, I just remembered that tomorrow is Hannukah. Must be out getting their dinner supplies..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (RSbhh)

358 I keep getting voicemails from guys with thick Russian accents.

My days as the world's greatest spy might be getting numbered.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2023 03:18 PM (gmo/4)

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Could be your hot Russian cyborg girlfriend trying to track you down.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (DRSnL)

359 Trump really screwed up the economy and so I have decided to vote for Donald Trump to screw up the economy even more .............

Biden's economy is too good be true ....

Posted by: ferd Berfall at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (qpLSv)

360 Hah!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:10 PM (ynpvh)

One took the info down and sounded interested, a couple others got "proper" in their enunciation, one started laughing.

I have to get the address of the Governor's mansion here in state and start giving that one out instead. It amuses me.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (D7oie)

361 >>garrett, do you play?

Yes.

I can play guitar well, but music mostly escapes me.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (/S2W0)

362 Hot flashes make for hot Milfs?
Posted by: jim

Hot flashes = Gilfs & Great Gilfs.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (h8TYC)

363 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

364 360 Hah!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:10 PM (ynpvh)

One took the info down and sounded interested, a couple others got "proper" in their enunciation, one started laughing.

I have to get the address of the Governor's mansion here in state and start giving that one out instead. It amuses me.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:20 PM (D7oie)

I've been tempted to give out info on someone I dislike, but thusfar have avoided the temptation.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (ynpvh)

365 You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

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LOL, right? I only answer it if I know who it is.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 05, 2023 03:14 PM (DRSnL)

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And I, not even always then.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 05, 2023 03:15 PM (N3zMI)

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Always got a kick out of and used to quote that lyric from the old Sheryl Crow song "A Change Would Do You Good":

"Hello, it's me, I'm not at home ...
If you'd like to reach me, leave me alone!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (yTcTV)

366 Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (X0I7i)

What does "relitigating" mean in this sense?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (RSbhh)

367 When I meet a girl, I always first check to make sure she has a belly button.
Don't like the lab grown ones.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (J8LnB)

368 Paul is here.
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And a Paul fell over the crowd.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (krQz2)

369 Some chick with an Atlanta area code texted me a very sweet goodbye message explaining why we could never be together. Quite moving.

I wonder who she is?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (ZLI7S)

370 The GOP is augering in. Nothing they do can save them now. It's in Stage IV metastatic malignant cucklioma, and there is no cure.

You can clamor as much as you like for them to adjust their position on some topic. All it speaks to is your beliefs on the topic. Not anything that matters. Beliefs are for you, not the regime.

But if you're making an electoral case about some issue, you're either high on mescaline, or being disingenuous.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 03:22 PM (0FoWg)

371
I suspect many of the pro-aborts are young males with zipper problems, and they don't want to be on the hook for child support. Needless to say, none will ever admit that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (3QCA5)

—

This isn’t some well kept secret. Young dudes are very much openly pro-choice for this very reason. Which is why I said earlier that single women aren’t the only ones voting for abortion.

Posted by: Montec at December 05, 2023 03:22 PM (WY6dk)

372 What does "relitigating" mean in this sense?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (RSbhh)
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I took it as mentally prosecuting our parents over how they failed us and our life is not perfect.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 03:22 PM (krQz2)

373 I buy groceries. I see my rent increase. I see my investment account still isn't all the way back. All of those things exist in reality. Stop telling me I am making it up.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:51 PM (/jVpY)

So you are admitting membership in an ultra-right-white-supremacist-nationalist organization?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2023 03:23 PM (3Gtis)

374 Apropos of something, I just got notices from credit card companies lowering my credit limit across all my cards.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 03:09 PM (XV/Pl)

make sure your identity was not stolen

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:23 PM (V13WU)

375 We are stuck in this clusterfuck because a lot of people aged 45 and older spent the last 20 years relitigating their childhood and early adulthoods.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (X0I7i)

Sounds like an explanation for the popularity of atheism as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:23 PM (dGCAG)

376 Did I ever tell you the story of when I met Moses. I told him, hey you cannot carry all these 20 Commandmants and not drop them without a bag. Well, Son of a bitch... I he dropped half of the tablets and that is why we only have 10 Commandments today. God's Honest Truth....Just anyone that was there !!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:23 PM (qpLSv)

377 >> I buy groceries. I see my rent increase. I see my investment account still isn't all the way back. All of those things exist in reality. Stop telling me I am making it up.

Alex -
You are making it all up and you sound hysterical.
Calm down.

There. Did that help?

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:24 PM (/S2W0)

378 361 >>garrett, do you play?
----------------
Yes.

I can play guitar well, but music mostly escapes me.
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How many guitars do you have?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:24 PM (Kdi1r)

379 I keep getting calls; where the hell will I live if I sell my house? The last guy that called, I asked how he got my number; he hung up.

Same for me (I'm getting texts instead of calls, for what difference that makes). Even if I got a dazzling amount for my house I then still have to buy another house, and I'm definitely not going to get the ~3% I have on my current mortgage.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2023 03:24 PM (2ocoG)

380 You guys answer your phone?

That's weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

I recognize the number, they call me a lot.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2023 03:24 PM (D7oie)

381 366 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2023 03:21 PM (RSbhh)

Children are by definition relatively powerless with regard to institutions when they are young. There seems to be a gaggle of them mostly left leaning that tallied their hurts and want to "fix the system" the crisis being they refuse to understand any of the reasons why the system is what it was.

Like I said to a Cob here once that threw them into a hissy-fit....

I can bake you a cake, you can force me to clap for your domestic situation at metaphorical gunpoint but what I cannot do is stop the voices screaming in your head that you are not normal.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:24 PM (X0I7i)

382 367 When I meet a girl, I always first check to make sure she has a belly button. Don't like the lab grown ones.

The Austiin Powers Biological Sex test does not work anymore either.......

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 05, 2023 03:25 PM (qpLSv)

383 375 Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:23 PM (dGCAG)

It is and the rise of gnostic thought disguised as other things.

People have crossed over into thinking reality is what is in their minds' eye rather than what is tangible and measurable to all.

We live in an insane asylum.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 03:25 PM (X0I7i)

384 >>How many guitars do you have?

Most of them.

I have been collecting since I was 12.

Been reselling/wholesaling to dealers since I was 15 or so.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:26 PM (/S2W0)

385 I suspect many of the pro-aborts are young males with zipper problems, and they don't want to be on the hook for child support. Needless to say, none will ever admit that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2023 03:19 PM (3QCA5)

I'm sure that's true, but I don't always fault these guys. Some of them WANT to be fathers, and the system won't allow them to do so. Either because mom flushed the child, or she had it, didn't tell him, and named him a decade later. So he's on the hook for 10 years, plus penalties.

You always have the option to keep it in your pants, but obviously that's not always going to happen either.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 03:26 PM (dGCAG)

386 367 When I meet a girl, I always first check to make sure she has a belly button.
Don't like the lab grown ones.
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Have some friends whose sister had a tummy tuck. She no longer has a belly button. She showed it to us while we were drinking. It gave me the creeps. She's creepy to begin with but sans belly button just more so creepy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:26 PM (Kdi1r)

387 ...My parents are looking at going into assisted living soon which means the house will be on the market. I am the trustee of the trust the house is in and thus have an obligation to get as much money as quickly as possible. I do not want to sell to an investment group and I know damn well that will likely be who puts in the best bid. And I will be obliged to take it. Posted by: alexthechick at December 05, 2023 02:58 PM (/jVpY)

When I inherited the folks' place in Orlando, FL, I sold it by working with a realtor from Redfin. 1% fee on their end, but alas, the buyer's realtor wants (as always) their full 3%.

Still though, the service rendered was every bit as thorough and professional as any "full commission" realtor, and without a lot of the pretentious foo-foo that attends such performance actors.

We did *no* crap such as refinishing, painting or staging. Simply had an estate sale, then a charity emptied out the house and left it "broom clean" for showings. I ended up having to replace the ancient HVAC, but I "fixed up" nothing else. Successful offer on the 3rd showing, proceeded to closing with nary a speed bump along the way.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 05, 2023 03:26 PM (e6UQI)

388 Most of them.

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really ? do you have Fender's Game of Thrones Sigil Collection ..??

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:28 PM (V13WU)

389 Climaphobes are all in for killing folks. Lots of 'em.

An efficient way to accomplish this would be to cause massive inflation and scarcity.

How to accomplish this? 1) Flood the economy with money, 2) Flood the economy with non-productive consumers and 3) Greatly restrict or even halt economic growth to restrict the investments needed to fill the demand for goods created by 1) and 2).

But how to do this?

Easy. Blow interest rates sky high to make raising long term capital damn near impossible and destroy the possibility for any reasonable ROI. You can even use the rapidly rising inflation print as cover: Just blame the inflation on Consumers That Just Spend Too Much Money.

That said, the FED is ALL IN on this charade. Anyone that thinks otherwise is completely naive.

You'll see the 30 Year Treasury north of 7% before inauguration day 2025. If a conservative gets elected (by accident) you'll likely see it much higher. In fact, it's a perfect response to any kind of electoral revolt.

Want To Know More? Look at the weekly chart of the 30 year. You'll something rarer than hen's teeth: an impulse wave.

Ironically, it started on March 23, 2020.

Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 05, 2023 03:29 PM (MkuC5)

390 384 >>How many guitars do you have?

Most of them.

I have been collecting since I was 12.

Been reselling/wholesaling to dealers since I was 15 or so.
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I just buy players I like but I have been amazed at the increase in value of the ones I have. My son, the rock star, likes them but I won't let him have them, yet. He was mad about my Jazzmaster and I told him to price it. It was going for around $3k. I paid $1100 originally. He understood why I wouldn't give it to him. Rock stars are hard on guitars.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:31 PM (Kdi1r)

391 >>really ? do you have Fender's Game of Thrones Sigil Collection ..??

No. I don't buy stuff like this. I deal in 100% original golden era stuff, mostly.

Early PRS. And some small builder stuff, too.
I am also a junky for Gene Baker built guitars. Either with Gil, Solo or his Fender/Gibson C Shop guitars.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2023 03:31 PM (/S2W0)

392 Easy. Blow interest rates sky high to make raising long term capital damn near impossible and destroy the possibility for any reasonable ROI. You can even use the rapidly rising inflation print as cover: Just blame the inflation on Consumers That Just Spend Too Much Money.
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The way to fix this is confine finance companies to their own capital by excluding them from the Treasury Window. Do that and Yankee Land collapses in a few months.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:32 PM (Kdi1r)

393 369 Some chick with an Atlanta area code texted me a very sweet goodbye message explaining why we could never be together. Quite moving.

I wonder who she is?
Posted by: JackStraw
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Stacey Abrams.

Posted by: whig at December 05, 2023 03:34 PM (JAi95)

394 garrett , good for you, but I know next to nothing about guitars...I saw the vid of Tom Morello, Scott Ian, Nuno Bettencourt Brad Paisley, and Game Of Thrones composer Ramin Djawadi. And Dan Weiss , one of the showrunners . Playing the theme on the special edition guitars.

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:36 PM (V13WU)

395 The way to fix this is confine finance companies to their own capital by excluding them from the Treasury Window. Do that and Yankee Land collapses in a few months.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2023 03:32 PM (Kdi1r)

Globalists don't kill other globalists, my brother.

They're after us.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 05, 2023 03:36 PM (MkuC5)

396 they "shredded"

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2023 03:37 PM (V13WU)

397 387 ...My parents are looking at going into assisted living soon which means the house will be on the market. I am the trustee of the trust the house is in and thus have an obligation to get as much money as quickly as possible. I do not want to sell to an investment group and I know damn well that will likely be who puts in the best bid. And I will be obliged to take it. Posted by: alexthechick
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My sister and I had the same problem. Had lawyer advise us on sale--it was to get a licensed appraisal of the home's value and then offer it to any family members, etc. that could meet the appraised value price and then go to market with it. My sister ended up buying the house at the appraised value so no double dealing happened.

Posted by: whig at December 05, 2023 03:37 PM (JAi95)

398 He understood why I wouldn't give it to him. Rock stars are hard on guitars.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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I know that's true.

Posted by: Pete Townsend at December 05, 2023 03:38 PM (JAi95)

399
I was on the first, second, and fifth floor of a commercial real estate building yesterday. Every floor there were nameplates. Room for nine names. Every floor only three names remaining.

No math rule, so I have no idea what the total occupancy of this primo real estate was.

But I kinda have a feeling 'merica isn't so great when it comes to CRE.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 05, 2023 03:48 PM (enJYY)

400 Dr Gay has a doctorate in political science and was a professor at Stanford. She also was the Dean of Harvard's faculty of arts and sciences so she moved up the ladder.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2023 03:59 PM (RSbhh)

401 posted wrong place. Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2023 04:00 PM (RSbhh)

402 Do you want to know what my economic argument is? Today, I paid $7 for a 5 lb bag of potatoes. And it was on sale! I'd like to see the learned economists try to talk their way around that fact.

Posted by: Nemo at December 05, 2023 05:05 PM (S6ArX)

403 All hail Bidenomics. Policies so stupid only a Schumer or a Warren could vote for them.

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