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Godfather of mRNA vaccines: We're working on vaccinating people against cancer.

I mean... I guess I was really excited about this possibility before the covid non-vaccine...

The pioneer behind mRNA vaccines has revealed plans for a new vaccine that immunizes against cancer more than a decade before it strikes.

Dr Drew Weissman won the Nobel Prize this year for their discovery of a way to inject genetic instructions to induce an immune response against Covid, a discovery that helped save millions of lives and bring the world out of the pandemic.

But... did... it...?


Now, he is leveraging that discovery to create an mRNA vaccine against another of the world's biggest killers - cancer.

The vaccines in development at the University of Pennsylvania, where Dr Weissman conducts his research, teach the body how to recognize tumor cells and fight them when they form.

The vaccines are geared towards people with genetic mutations that raise their risk of cancer, such as the BRCA gene that influences breast cancer risk.

At this point in the article I was thinking exactly this: given the history of this vaccine, which I am totally not allowed to say has caused widespread vaccine injury and heart inflammation, I would only consider such an mRNA shot if I had the genetic markers making me a risk for a specific cancer.


Dr Weissman said at the Nobel Prize lecture on medicine: 'The idea here is that you treat people before they develop cancer... and maybe completely prevent cancer from ever appearing in these patients.'

Maybe.

With the covid-19 shot we had a guarantee, and that turned out not so hot.

...

Dr Weissman and fellow researchers at UPenn set out to find a way to enhance the power of an mRNA vaccine by encoding it with genetic instructions for the body to produce a specific subset of immune cells that kill off cancer cells.

Within that set of genetic instructions injected into mice to produce an antibody response, the researchers included mRNA teaching the body to produce a protein called IL-12, which plays a crucial role as a messenger that facilitate communication between cells.

IL-12 directs the body to generate a specific type of immune cells called effector T cells, which Dr Weissman said could effectively clear out cancer from the body and even prevent it from occurring in people who are at highest genetic risk.

He said: 'We know that it's five or 10 years that cancer cells first start to appear before you've got full-fledged large tumors that impair function.

'If we treat these people maybe every five years with a vaccine that only makes effector T cells, we'll clean out, clear away, kill all of the transformed cells.'

I guess I'd try it, if I knew I was a high risk for a specific cancer. And if they did testing on more than 12 fucking mice.

Good news for asthmatics: new antibody treatment controls 92% of severe asthma cases.


Safer relief for people suffering from severe asthma is a step closer with a large clinical trial finding a monocolonal antibody treatment called benralizumab can radically reduce the need for more dangerous high-dose steroid treatments.

...

The treatment investigated in a phase four clinical trial funded by its producer AstraZeneca, works in a far more targeted way. Benralizumab is a protein antibody that reduces the number of inflammation-causing immune cells called eosinophils, which are produced in abnormal amounts in severe asthma cases.

Benralizumab has been so effective that in the trial of over 200 patients across Europe an incredible 92 percent of them safely reduced the use of inhaled steroids, with more than 60 percent no longer needing them at all.

Almost 90 percent of patients in the steroid reduction group remained exacerbation-free by the end of the trial.

Science says Cat Lady Syndrome is all too real.

A new review suggests that having a cat as a pet could potentially double a person's risk of schizophrenia-related disorders.

Australian researchers conducted an analysis of 17 studies published during the last 44 years, from 11 countries including the US and the UK.

"We found an association between broadly defined cat ownership and increased odds of developing schizophrenia-related disorders," writes psychiatrist John McGrath and fellow researchers, all from the Queensland Centre for Mental Health Research.

Is it the cat ownership causing the schizophrenia, or is it the schizophrenia causing the cat hoarding?

This "science" advances nothing!

...

"After adjusting for covariates, we found that individuals exposed to cats had approximately twice the odds of developing schizophrenia," the team writes.

This study is both worrying but also actionable -- losing just a little deep sleep after age 60 significantly increases the chances of dementia. While that's alarming, it also suggests a way to reduce one's risks of dementia.


A decrease of 1% in deep sleep each year for individuals aged 60 and older corresponds to a 27% higher risk of developing dementia.

A study has found that every 1% decrease in deep sleep annually in individuals over 60 years old is associated with a 27% higher risk of dementia. This research indicates that improving or preserving deep sleep, known as slow-wave sleep, in later life may help prevent dementia.

I've been wearing a Fitbit for years so I know about how much deep sleep I get. I know when I get 40 minutes or less my mind is fried and I feel like crap, when I get an hour I feel eh, when I get an hour and 15 minutes I feel normal, and if I can get 1 hour and 30 minutes or more I feel really good.

There is some placebo effect going on there because when I see a good score I definitely feel good just because of the score, but it's definitely true that deep sleep is very restful and restorative sleep.

It comes earlier in the night. They say it comes between 10 pm and 2am and I never got an answer: What if you're a nightowl? Does it shift later for you? Or is it just that people who go to bed early just get more deep sleep than nightowls?

I don't know the answer but I do tend to get more deep sleep the earlier I got to bed.



So -- tell me about your GAINZZZ, or any PLANZZZ to get some GAINZZZ in the new year.

I've got mild slow GAINZZZ. I'm semi-fasting to drop the weight I gained over a couple of slack months. Imma start eating again, and working out, around Christmas.

Want to hear my downfall? I was eating Kirkland bratwursts from Costco. Those weren't the problem. Those were delicious. I was making them with onions and pepper. Fantastic.

Cannot recommend those bad boys enough. Three and a half pounds for $15. Except they seem to have stopped selling them a month ago.

Who knows, possibly because of Biden's inflation. Maybe they can't sell them at a profit any longer.

I got the bright idea that I could have those with low carb buns from Hero Bread.

I mean, the buns are low carb, right? It says so on the package!

Well, I was having those bratwursts a lot because they're cheap and easy to make and also because they're low-carb and I'm on a low-carb diet.

And then in two months I noticed -- say, these pants. They've shrunk.

Wait -- these pants have shrunk too.

Wait, so have all of these underwear.

Is there something wrong with the water in my washing machine? It's shrinking all my clothes!

Well, I began to suspect that Hero Bread might not be the Keto hero I thought it was. Thins guy, Serious Keto, measures the blood sugar impact of various products claimed to be low carb and he found it to be the cause the second biggest blood glucose spike of the various low carb breads he's tried.

The bread might be lower carb than other breads, and might be okay as a treat when someone really wants to have a hamburger with a bun or a sausage sandwich, but it cannot be had frequently, and certainly not daily, if you're trying to stay keto.

Otherwise your clothes will shrink.

Not to knock Hero bread too much -- I was having it every day and that was stupid. I was living in a fool's paradise, I was.

And Individual User Error was certainly a big part of the problem.

He reviews all of these "low carb" breads. It looks like... they're all akshually pretty high carb. Carbonaut seems to be okay.

I went through this before -- any longtime low-carbers might remember the Dreamfields debacle. Dreamfields claimed to make a pasta in which the carbohydrates were somehow... "protected" by some kind biological sheath which kept them from being digested. It tasted just like delicious pasta -- but the carbs would pass right through your system completely undigested, because, see, the carbs were wrapped in this Magical Carbohydrated Micro-Barrier.

We believed -- because we wanted to believe.

Until a couple of months went by, and, what's going on? My pants have all shrunk.

There's just no way to get around the sad fact that a low-carb diet means "low carb." I keep wanting a loophole, but there is none.

I tell ya, when I stop this semi-fast, I'll still have weight to lose, and I think I'm going to try the protein-sparing semi-fast for four weeks or six weeks. Simple idea, you can eat only protein -- you have to have multivitamin every day too, plus electrolytes -- and can only have 800 calories.

Which may not sound like a lot but, eh, I can get by on 400-500. And all that protein is filling. You'd be surprised. When all you eat is protein, hunger may not be a problem: Getting sick of the sameness of eating protein every meal will be the problem.

By keeping calories low but eating nothing but protein, the diet is supposed to spare all the muscle on your body from being consumed for energy. So it's actually muscle-sparing.

People lose 30 pounds of fat in six weeks. It's an actual medical protocol.

Maybe a New Years Moron Plan?


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:30 PM




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1 Uh, it's new but third thread back?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 15, 2023 06:31 PM (qPw5n)

2 I've summoned the others to this time-displaced thread.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 15, 2023 06:32 PM (qPw5n)

3 'Exposed'.

Almost everyone is 'exposed' to cats.

How long?

Is it repeated exposure?

Continuous?

Does it matter how long the exposure is?

These people are fucking stupid and just want clickbait.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:33 PM (di6C2)

4 it's now the top thread. thanks grumpy.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2023 06:33 PM (KRtlO)

5 No worries Ace, you be careful with that time machine now. :-)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 15, 2023 06:34 PM (qPw5n)

6 I'm not taking the 1.0 version of any drug

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 15, 2023 06:34 PM (xcxpd)

7 my friend the naturopath tells me to keep the selenium levels high, that in itself will help prevent cancer cells from forming

I had started taking it during the coof but now I use it for this reason

Posted by: kallisto at December 15, 2023 06:34 PM (l2uVU)

8 "After adjusting for covariates, we found that individuals exposed to cats had approximately twice the odds of developing schizophrenia," the team writes.

What were the "covariates"?

Empty, desolate life?
Box wine drinker?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2023 06:35 PM (guGkK)

9 I don't think there's any way this doctor would make these claims about the RNA vaccine if they weren't really true. He wouldn't have that kind of chutzpah.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 15, 2023 06:35 PM (roH4R)

10 UPenn ?
If it works, wiil they give it to white people?

Posted by: wth at December 15, 2023 06:36 PM (v0R5T)

11 "After adjusting for covariates, we found that individuals exposed to cats had approximately twice the odds of developing schizophrenia," the team writes.
----
As a proud cat owner, the voices in my head are telling me that this study is nonsense.

Also, it's time to sacrifice one of my kitties to Zorkon the Space God...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 06:36 PM (BpYfr)

12 I'm on the elliptical right now

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2023 06:37 PM (RIvkX)

13
mice to produce an antibody response, the researchers included mRNA teaching the body to produce a protein called IL-12, which plays a crucial role as a messenger that facilitate communication between cells.

IL-12 directs the body to generate a specific type of immune cells called effector T cells, which Dr Weissman said could effectively clear out cancer from the body and even prevent it from occurring in people who are at highest genetic risk.

-------

A year or so after vaccination: "I've been diagnosed with effector T cell cancer!"

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2023 06:37 PM (qsezt)

14 I've said it before and I'll say it again, the saddest part about the whole Covid vaccine debacle is it gave people under the age of 40--who would benefit the most from ongoing medical breakthroughs--serious and clearly documented reasons to not trust the industry.

Posted by: CppThis at December 15, 2023 06:38 PM (PZvjL)

15 Dr Weissman said at the Nobel Prize lecture on medicine: 'The idea here is that you treat people before they develop cancer... and maybe completely prevent cancer from ever appearing in these patients.'

If you kill people today with a clot shot then they certainly won't go on to develop cancer later.

Posted by: scores of Jan 6 political prisoners at December 15, 2023 06:38 PM (DTX3h)

16 Cats are sociopathic killers. It's in their nature.

Cat Ladies are attracted to the malevolent, chaotic violence from cats due to the Cat Ladies lack of sexual intercourse with human males and they develop into schizophrenics with long term denial of the human male essence and close association with the sociopathic cats.


Pay me and submit my paper to Haaaavaaard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2023 06:38 PM (R/m4+)

17 /sock

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 15, 2023 06:39 PM (DTX3h)

18 Let's hope asshole fucker stays in the Rudy thread.

Ignore the trolls... please.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 15, 2023 06:39 PM (2yu8s)

19 the problem with the mRNA being therapeutic for cancer is that . . . That was the initial purpose for the treatment and it turned out to be so incredibly toxic it was abandoned.
Then it was picked up to deliver antigen codes to the immune system to act as a vaccine for viruses, and it was discovered that it did not persist long enough to be useful and was a bit toxic. So they added psuedo-Uridine to keep it from being broken down . . . And it was incredibly toxic, in some cases killing all the test animals.
The excuse for using it for Covid was that it would be just two shots and no more so it would be minimally dangerous

Have you had your second booster for 2023. Citizen?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 06:40 PM (D7oie)

20 Didn't I see this in a remake of "The Last Man on Earth"?

Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2023 06:40 PM (gmo/4)

21 I think they ought to be flooding the Senate with anti-biotics right about now: zoo sex in a Senate hearing room.

https://tinyurl.com/52sethaw

Posted by: Paco at December 15, 2023 06:40 PM (njExo)

22 My gainz?

I've been eating hardboiled eggs on nights I'll be drinking. It seems to help my stomach. All those years bars have been providing pickled eggs? They were on to something.

Also my cat decided to stop urinating without cat screaming about it, so I got negative checkbook gains of over $700. So much for Christmas gifts for myself....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 15, 2023 06:41 PM (xcxpd)

23 Good news for asthmatics: new antibody treatment controls 92% of severe asthma cases.

Maybe now I can be in the same room as my sister. Even with lintrolling JT The Wonder Dog's hair off our clothes after washing them and rubbing the dog down with a hypoallergenic concoction after a bath, she still has asthma attacks triggered by the dog. Apparently she can't even go over to a friend's house anymore because, despite their lack of pets, it's too dusty and it triggers an attack.

Posted by: pookysgirl's Christmas is complicated at December 15, 2023 06:41 PM (dtlDP)

24 Having a cat linked to schizophrenia." Sounds like another "Kill the pets save the planet " type of story. In a couple of weeks we;ll get "having dogs increases chanches of having bipolar disorder.""

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2023 06:42 PM (RSbhh)

25 In a couple of weeks we;ll get "having dogs increases chanches of having bipolar disorder.""

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2023 06:42 PM (RSbhh)


That will be ruff.

Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2023 06:43 PM (gmo/4)

26 10 UPenn ?
If it works, wiil they give it to white people?
Posted by: wth at December 15, 2023 06:36 PM (v0R5T)

Will Joe Paterno use it to cover up the molestation of children?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:43 PM (di6C2)

27 I hope white cheddar cheez-its have some therapeutic value because I just killed a box.

Posted by: kallisto at December 15, 2023 06:43 PM (8Ee6S)

28 Oh, wait- that was Penn State.

Same difference.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:44 PM (di6C2)

29 >>Not to knock Hero bread too much --

Get out! But the low fat yogurt is still good, right?

Posted by: Elaine Benes at December 15, 2023 06:44 PM (KLXLF)

30 Planet of the Apes

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2023 06:44 PM (63Dwl)

31 If the declared a cancer vaccine I wouldn't take it

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2023 06:44 PM (fwDg9)

32 Have you had your second booster for 2023. Citizen?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 06:40 PM (D7oie)

Which is actually the saddest part of this whole debacle.

In other countries, they are suing the Vaccine makers for damages, at the same time as OUR Government is still pushing the vaccines.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 15, 2023 06:45 PM (xaFKb)

33 31 If the declared a cancer vaccine I wouldn't take it
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2023 06:44 PM (fwDg9)

The 'I am Legend' movie...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:45 PM (di6C2)

34 Hmm....

*thinks about what those medical-science breakthroughs would do to life expectancy and thus population*

*considers prior art on population behavior and corrections, reaches a dread surmise*

Fauci was a pimp. He never could have outfought wuflu. But I never knew until this day that it was Thomas Malthus all along!!

Posted by: CppThis at December 15, 2023 06:46 PM (PZvjL)

35 Take the covariates, leave the sardines.

Posted by: Dodsworth at December 15, 2023 06:46 PM (4I/2K)

36 In other countries, they are suing the Vaccine makers for damages, at the same time as OUR Government is still pushing the vaccines.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 15, 2023 06:45 PM (xaFKb)

And people are still getting it- and excited to be getting it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:46 PM (di6C2)

37 That will be ruff.

Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2023 06:43 PM (gmo/4)

If it's bi-polar it will be ruff ruff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2023 06:47 PM (RSbhh)

38 Can the MRNA shot do anything about existing cancer? Cause I might gamble on it then.

Posted by: Bete at December 15, 2023 06:48 PM (7klpr)

39 The first three episodes of Reacher were pretty good.

-hot brunette

-I like the dynamic better than the first series. The group dynamic works well and I like the actors they got.

-hot brunette

-the story is interesting

So far, pretty damn solid. Best thing I have seen since... Terminal List and Reacher s1.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:48 PM (di6C2)

40
The cat schizophrenia study is pretty interesting.

2 things stood out for me:

1)There seems to be a sensitive period between 9-12 years of age. They are the most likely to show schizophrenic symptoms related to cats.

2) People who have been bitten by cats and the number of bites are related to developing schizophrenia.

Though the cat brain parasite is the most logical villain, it's not a sure thing yet. There may be something else involved.

Cats!: Tools of Satan?\

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 06:48 PM (QzZeQ)

41 Cats!: Tools of Satan?\

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 06:48 PM (QzZeQ)

Of course. That goes without saying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 15, 2023 06:49 PM (di6C2)

42 The cancer "vacine" will soon be mandatory for kids to enter grade school. Just to be safe.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 06:50 PM (cOq4q)

43 40
'Cats!: Tools of Satan?\'

Yes.

Posted by: Pope Gregory IX at December 15, 2023 06:50 PM (roH4R)

44 Now that I have my geezer watch, that congratulates me for standing up, I can see how much sleep I get. Typically, it's five to six hours. I started going to bed earlier (like 8:30) because I would get more deep sleep. With back spasms the other night, I got four hours sleep with no REM or deep sleep.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 15, 2023 06:50 PM (L8hCM)

45 Antelope freeway...1/4 mile!

Posted by: Firesign at December 15, 2023 06:51 PM (QB+5g)

46 >>> I guess I'd try it, if I knew I was a high risk for a specific cancer. And if they did testing on more than 12 fucking mice.

The mice died. That's how they knew it worked.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 15, 2023 06:52 PM (cOq4q)

47 I find it interesting, since Dr Malone has spoken against the mRNA vaccines, that we have a new "godfather of mRNA". Not interested in it in any form.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 15, 2023 06:52 PM (L8hCM)

48 What were the "covariates"?

Empty, desolate life?
Box wine drinker?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2023 06:35 PM (guGkK)


Being single, alone, with few intimate social connections, and needing something to relate with in your emotionally sterile world.

I would write a paper called: anomie and cat ownership, a study. It would deserve being converted into a movie by Tarkovsky

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 06:53 PM (D7oie)

49 || The cancer "vacine" will soon be mandatory for kids to enter grade school. Just to be safe. ||

The more things that push kids out of schools, the better.

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Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at December 15, 2023 06:54 PM (asXVI)

50 Satan is our minion!

Posted by: The catz at December 15, 2023 06:54 PM (RIvkX)

51 Negative gainzzzz

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 15, 2023 06:55 PM (H+OuA)

52 @47 - Bingo!

Posted by: Teej at December 15, 2023 06:55 PM (DW2aF)

53 This study is pretty interesting.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.14136

Large study from Austria. They look at effectiveness for two months, but they show graphs of effectiveness for 6 with very little mention in the text.

Turns out that the vaccine protects for two months, but then the vaccinated get much higher rate of infection than those with fewer or no vaccines. Much higher.

Look at the graphs, it is pretty bad.
(Figure 1, down the page and click.)
I think they intentionally downplayed that part to get published.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 15, 2023 06:57 PM (KLXLF)

54 Austin Air HEPA filters. They aren't cheap but are effective.

I'm interested in the studies that say autoimmune diseases are due to the lack of parasites. Body turns on itself.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 15, 2023 06:57 PM (L8hCM)

55 Okay so I've had this pain radiating from the inside of my left thigh radiating to the left side of my knee. Went to the trusty internet and said it was a muscle pull, 6-8 weeks recovery. But, I can't stay off it. I mean life goes on and now it's bee 8 weeks and it still hurts. Everything still functions fine. Taking advil, nsaids, Tylenol make no difference. I feel better after I swim but it still hurts. My doctor seemed pretty nonchalant.
I am headed to Italy for two weeks with my son, DIL and grandson. I'll need to walk way more than my usual 2 miles.
Think a knee brace will help? Or do I just accept that at 29 things don't work as well as they used to.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 06:58 PM (t/2Uw)

56 The whole plot of “I am legend “ involves a cure for cancer that turns people into monsters.

Posted by: Allen at December 15, 2023 06:58 PM (9Gwyq)

57 Ace, I've lost over 50 pounds since mid-May. I have reduced my calories to 1200 - 1300 calories per day. I decided at the start to strictly avoid junk food/snack food, Diet Coke and other diet drinks, bread (I use tortillas instead), high-carb starchy foods (pasta, rice, potatoes, etc.), peanuts, sugar and sweets, frozen foods, and processed foods other than soups, cheese, summer sausage, and dry Genoa sausage. No salad dressings - I use balsamic vinegar and spices.

This still leaves me a lot of options for variety instead of eating the same stuff every day. Lately I have added a couple slices of bread a day for a sandwich instead of the tortillas. Continuing to lose, at a slightly reduced rate.

I broke my rules at the TXMoMe and for one meal several other times (I didn't pig-out, though).

Good luck at sticking with your calorie reduction efforts!

Posted by: Gref at December 15, 2023 06:58 PM (5fDan)

58 I eat foods by salty, bitter, sweet, and by texture. I try to switch things up as much as possible, all the while avoiding the carbs.

Crunchy snack? Pork rinds or cashew nuts.

Chicken.

Pork.

Bacon.

Beef.

Cottage cheese.

Cheddar cheese.

Provolone.

Eggs.

Pickles

Mustard.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 15, 2023 06:58 PM (E3pwH)

59 53
'Large study from Austria.'

You know who else was from Austria?

Posted by: Pope Gregory IX at December 15, 2023 06:59 PM (roH4R)

60 Yeah, I'm not taking any mRNA shots ever again. And I'll probably pass on most any other vaccine or booster that hasn't been around for at least 30 years. And you can frig right off with your flu shot while you're at it.

Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2023 07:00 PM (7Bos0)

61 Try kinesiology tape. I've had some luck using it on my bad knee.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 15, 2023 07:00 PM (L8hCM)

62 One would think that at UPenn they would be working on a vaccine against Jews.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2023 07:01 PM (gSZYf)

63 How stupid do these people think we are?

I'd be more likely to get a mRNA shot if they marketed it as something to make my boner bigger, thicker and last longer.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 15, 2023 07:01 PM (9v1kn)

64 I read a study today, in El Pais, the Spanish paper, that declared that pork rinds are NOT better for you than vegetables.

However I noticed they never said they were WORSE for you either.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 07:01 PM (D7oie)

65 I agree with Aetius about season 2 Reacher although it was shirtless Reacher more often that was more my interest than the brunette.
The ensemble cast is a big improvement and more Guns!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:01 PM (t/2Uw)

66 Oh and doctors aren't interested in your knee unless you need surgery. I tore something in mine. Couldn't get a doctor to check it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (L8hCM)

67 Had a scoop of ice cream the other night
Been so hangry ever since aaah
Gotta kill that stupid insulin spike

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (H+OuA)

68 One would think that at UPenn they would be working on a vaccine against Jews.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2023 07:01 PM (gSZYf)


Isn't that called retail pricing?



I denounce myself.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (QzZeQ)

69 And you can frig right off with your flu shot while you're at it.

Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2023 07:00 PM (7Bos0)

Flu vaccine has been around for a very long time. It usually isn't very effective because they try to predict the most common strains and miss it a lot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (gSZYf)

70 Early to bed, early to rise. Live it.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (jFrE2)

71 PS to my #57 -
I am not trying to go Keto. I have reduced carbs but not down to whatever the Keto limit is. I doubt I am below that most days.

Posted by: Gref at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (5fDan)

72 So Ace is going carnie, eh? LOL (It was a circus freak pun.) Don't eat crap, don't overeat the good stuff, and exercise everyday if you can, even if just a little.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2023 07:03 PM (KAi1n)

73 We are in the age of clickbait science.
Whatever you read today, wait 5 years.
Whatever the gummint tells you is healthy, do the opposite.
Remember that over 50% of medical studies cannot be replicated.

Posted by: MkY at December 15, 2023 07:03 PM (cPGH3)

74 I'm glad we don't have to see a poat on the Senate chambers twitter story. Good week.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2023 07:03 PM (IG4Id)

75 >Okay so I've had this pain radiating from the inside of my left thigh radiating to the left side of my knee.
---

ask your doctor about nerve pain

Posted by: Don Black, Premier Properties at December 15, 2023 07:03 PM (geLO8)

76 Dr Weissman and fellow researchers at UPenn set out to find a way to enhance the power of an mRNA vaccine by encoding it with genetic instructions for the body to produce a specific subset of immune cells that kill off cancer cells.

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But I was assured by UPenn Professor Josef Roombanette Biden that he'd already cured cancer.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 07:03 PM (0ogfQ)

77 Isn't that called retail pricing?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 07:02 PM (QzZeQ)


No...that works as an attractant for WASPS. We Jews just hondel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2023 07:04 PM (gSZYf)

78 "I would only consider such an mRNA shot if I had the genetic markers making me a risk for a specific cancer."

Not even then, especially not even then. These people are both evil and incompetent. Why would you believe they have something good in store for you?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 15, 2023 07:04 PM (Mzdiz)

79 In Soviet Russia cancer medicine...is cancer.

Posted by: Max Power at December 15, 2023 07:04 PM (q177U)

80 Sorry Notsothoreau
You probably need some kind of soft tissue scan
Is there an orthiopedic ER you could go to?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 15, 2023 07:04 PM (H+OuA)

81 There's no reason to eat only protein, and that can also kill you. Add some fat so your hair doesn't fall out, and a few veggies so you get minerals. Honestly, fad dieting has always been sort of stupid. You are an omnivore, and eating only protein is at least as idiotic as being vegan.

Posted by: Orca at December 15, 2023 07:05 PM (okGHj)

82 CBD - the "frequent miss" aspect of the flu shot is why I'm not taking it. Why not just get jabbed with saline? Also, and more to the point, I don't trust these fuckers in the medical profession to not slip in something. "Oh, we gave you the combined Covid / flu shot because it's so much better, despite your objection."

Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2023 07:06 PM (7Bos0)

83 Not an orca. Not any more.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at December 15, 2023 07:06 PM (okGHj)

84 Southwest is being praised for offering "customers of size" a free seat.

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U.S. · DEC 14, 2023 · 125
Southwest Airlines To Provide Plus-Size Customers With Bed Of Hay, Feeding Trough

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 15, 2023 07:06 PM (FVME7)

85 No idea around here. It's getting to bone on bone now too. I've been lucky this year as it hasn't torn any more.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 15, 2023 07:07 PM (L8hCM)

86 Any updates from Hadrian about Delilah's condition?

Posted by: Tuna at December 15, 2023 07:07 PM (oaGWv)

87 I don't ever plan on taking any vaccine for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Max Power at December 15, 2023 07:09 PM (q177U)

88 Cats!: Tools of Satan?\

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 06:48 PM (QzZeQ)



cats are two things, one is that cats of all species are really identifiable as cats, no one ever pauses to ask if some wild cat species is a cat, or maybe some other tetrapod. All cats is cats

The second is that primates as a class have three major predators, Snakes, predatory birds, and cats. And all those predatory cats look like cats.

It is amazing to me that humans can take a full representation of our greatest predator, bring it into our houses and say regularly, "Oooos ah, sweetie kittikittikitty, want your tummy rubbed? Ooooh, teeth, Kick kick kick! Good boy!"

I can't see dogs or wildebeest doing that.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 07:09 PM (D7oie)

89
A knee brace might help if it's related to your knee.

Though, if you're *ahem* well over 29, your healing might be slower than the average bear.

Do what the doc says and take it easy. Esp if you've got a trip coming up.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 07:10 PM (QzZeQ)

90 I don't trust these fuckers in the medical profession to not slip in something. "Oh, we gave you the combined Covid / flu shot because it's so much better, despite your objection."

Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2023 07:06 PM (7Bos0)

I now ask to see the vial.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2023 07:10 PM (gSZYf)

91 Sort of GAINZ.

Have done little exercise since my cardiac adventure in July (VTach).

On the bright side, I realized that I was in danger of fattening up and made sure I was eating smaller portions for lunch and dinner and have lost about 5 pounds!

I should exercise but I lose my mind when I see an anomalous pulse reading.

Posted by: comradearthur at December 15, 2023 07:10 PM (/P8Pv)

92 Brain parasites.

Posted by: javems at December 15, 2023 07:11 PM (W54U5)

93 Any updates from Hadrian about Delilah's condition?
Posted by: Tuna at December 15, 2023 07:07 PM (oaGWv)
===
He has said things are not good without specifics.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2023 07:11 PM (RIvkX)

94 I can't see dogs or wildebeest doing that.
Posted by: Kindltot

Uh, huh. Show me on this doll where the big bad cat touched you, jah?

Posted by: Young Dr. Jung at December 15, 2023 07:11 PM (cPGH3)

95 >>>There's no reason to eat only protein, and that can also kill you. Add some fat so your hair doesn't fall out, and a few veggies so you get minerals. Honestly, fad dieting has always been sort of stupid. You are an omnivore, and eating only protein is at least as idiotic as being vegan.

Posted by: Orca

>I just ate a pound of venison tenderloin steaks with caramelized onions. I'm considering a loaded baked potato later. Or I may just pass out in a food coma.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 15, 2023 07:12 PM (9v1kn)

96 You know who else was from Austria?
Posted by: Pope Gregory IX at December 15, 2023 06:59 PM (roH4R)


Ludwig von Mises?
Klemmens von Metternich"
Marie Antoinette?
Nicolai Tesla?

C'mon, let me know!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 07:12 PM (D7oie)

97 Based on what we already experienced they'll probably make an MRNA vaccine, and 6 months later be like "Oh it'll maybe stop you fron getting cancer, but now you 100% have AIDs, oopsie!"

Posted by: Rbastid at December 15, 2023 07:12 PM (4KSGL)

98 Cats are awesome.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2023 07:13 PM (KAi1n)

99 Speaking of health and hygiene and so forth, I read that a Finnish company has developed tampons for men.

https://tinyurl.com/3hs8bpht

My first thought was, these are the people who held off the Soviets for a few months during the winter War, right? Ok, just wanted to make sure. Not surprising, I guess; the Swedes, after all, used to be Vikings.

My second thought was, how does a man, er, install a tampon?

Posted by: Paco at December 15, 2023 07:13 PM (njExo)

100 Catherine the Great was also Austrian.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2023 07:13 PM (KAi1n)

101 “At this point in the article I was thinking exactly this: given the history of this vaccine, which I am totally not allowed to say has caused widespread vaccine injury and heart inflammation, I would only consider such an mRNA shot if I had the genetic markers making me a risk for a specific cancer.”

Are you a full retard? Never go full retard

They are literally trying to kill us all!

The MRna “vaccine”, not, CAUSES cancer a
D you would trust this guy, this so called science?

Can we is the mother lode for fear, oh yah, they will get plenty of karens

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 15, 2023 07:14 PM (MwHgU)

102 how does a man, er, install a tampon?

Lube. Lots of lube

Posted by: MkY at December 15, 2023 07:14 PM (cPGH3)

103 >>>>There's no reason to eat only protein, and that can also kill you.
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they say the paleo diet is the way to go
it's the diet the human digestive system evolved on
Mankind started getting fat when he started cultivating and eating grains

or so I've read

Posted by: Don Black, Premier Properties at December 15, 2023 07:14 PM (geLO8)

104 My second thought was, how does a man, er, install a tampon?
Posted by: Paco at December 15, 2023 07:13 PM (njExo)



Bullet wound?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2023 07:15 PM (QzZeQ)

105 Cats are awesome.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2023 07:13 PM (KAi1n)
===
He is our minion too.

Posted by: The catz at December 15, 2023 07:15 PM (RIvkX)

106 Is it a movie thread yet?

Collider
@Collider
For centuries, there has been a society hidden in plain sight, working in secret to protect Black people from harm. It’s called THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF MAGICAL NEGROES.

https://tinyurl.com/y7k7mrwt

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 15, 2023 07:15 PM (FVME7)

107 55 Okay so I've had this pain radiating from the inside of my left thigh radiating to the left side of my knee. Went to the trusty internet and said it was a muscle pull, 6-8 weeks recovery. But, I can't stay off it. I mean life goes on and now it's bee 8 weeks and it still hurts. Everything still functions fine. Taking advil, nsaids, Tylenol make no difference. I feel better after I swim but it still hurts. My doctor seemed pretty nonchalant.
I am headed to Italy for two weeks with my son, DIL and grandson. I'll need to walk way more than my usual 2 miles.
Think a knee brace will help? Or do I just accept that at 29 things don't work as well as they used to.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 06:58 PM (t/2Uw)


Are you doing any stretches of the thigh muscles? Careful stretching can help muscle healing. Look on the webz for stretches recommended for the painful areas. Knee brace? May help. I doubt it would exacerbate your problem.

Posted by: Gref at December 15, 2023 07:15 PM (5fDan)

108 A new review suggests that having a cat as a pet could potentially double a person's risk of schizophrenia-related disorders.

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So you're saying that my risk of becoming a schizophrenic ...

* gets out calculator *

... has been increased by 2**5 = 32 times! Yeah, that tracks.

Muldoon, what is the ICD-10 Code for this?

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 07:16 PM (0ogfQ)

109 "You know who else was from Austria?"

That's easy. Crocodile Dundee.

Posted by: fd at December 15, 2023 07:17 PM (vFG9F)

110 104. Bullet wound? - naturalfake

Now, I have heard that soldiers use the things for that.

Posted by: Paco at December 15, 2023 07:17 PM (njExo)

111 Uh, huh. Show me on this doll where the big bad cat touched you, jah?
Posted by: Young Dr. Jung at December 15, 2023 07:11 PM (cPGH3)


um . . . right here on the web of my hand where he gnawed on me while I was rubbing his tummy. He's a gooood kitty.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 07:17 PM (D7oie)

112 Don Black

Read up on spelt, and wheats like Turkey Red.
There's a pretty good argument that wheats were bred for production, not human needs.
My wife cannot eat gluten of any kind... normally.
We're now enjoying sour dough spelt bread.

Posted by: MkY at December 15, 2023 07:17 PM (cPGH3)

113 glass noodle diet good for lose fat

Posted by: Indigenous Agent Co Bao at December 15, 2023 07:18 PM (nnDd5)

114 I broke my rules at the TXMoMe and for one meal several other times (I didn't pig-out, though).

Good luck at sticking with your calorie reduction efforts!
Posted by: Gref at December 15, 2023 06:58 PM (5fDan)
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Calories don't count at a MOME. It's in the AoSHQ bylaws.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 15, 2023 07:18 PM (BpYfr)

115 Grass-fed beef, Pacific salmon, eggs, cabbage, mushrooms, and broccoli is all you really need. A little cheese to moisten the omelet is ok too.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2023 07:18 PM (KAi1n)

116 A study has found that every 1% decrease in deep sleep annually in individuals over 60 years old is associated with a 27% higher risk of dementia.

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Well, I'm screwed.

MOAR exercise, crossword puzzles, and chess FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 07:18 PM (0ogfQ)

117 I now ask to see the vial.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2023 07:10 PM (gSZYf)

Dr. David Copperfield enters the exam room...

Posted by: browndog unearthing eternal truths at December 15, 2023 07:19 PM (TTAGa)

118 has developed tampons for men.

https://tinyurl.com/3hs8bpht
My first thought was, these are the people who held off the Soviets for a few months during the winter War, right? Ok, just wanted to make sure. Not surprising, I guess; the Swedes, after all, used to be Vikings.

My second thought was, how does a man, er, install a tampon?
Posted by: Paco at December 15, 2023 07:13 PM

Maybe they're putting them in their nose. If you have a nosebleed that won't stop and you go to the hospital, they shove a tampon up your nose, really hard. It looked painful. My dad never complained about a nosebleed again.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 15, 2023 07:20 PM (l3Uxg)

119 We're now enjoying sour dough spelt bread.
Posted by: MkY at December 15, 2023 07:17 PM (cPGH3)


Is that how that word is . . . .Never mind.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2023 07:20 PM (D7oie)

120 Gref, i swim a couple of days a week and side stroke and breast stroke part of my routine and it does feel better afterwards. Especially after whirlpool and sauna. My Y is amazing. Pools are heated to 82-88 degrees.
It doesn't even really hurt when I walk. Afterwards it aches and the leg feels weak. I've been trying to rest and elevate it. Maybe stretching would help.
I'll probably try the brace at leat til I get back from my trip but I don;t think the knee is the problem.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:21 PM (t/2Uw)

121 And congrats on your weight loss. sounds like you've made the kind of lifestyle changes that will keep it off.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:22 PM (t/2Uw)

122 "You know who else was from Austria?"


That's easy. Everyone who speaks Austrian!

Posted by: The LightWorker (and you're not) at December 15, 2023 07:22 PM (5fDan)

123 NOOD

Big Mouths Cafe

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 15, 2023 07:22 PM (qPw5n)

124 Grass-fed beef,
SFGoth

I am not a fan. I can have all the venison I want, and grass fed beef tastes much like it. I prefer the marballing of corn-fed beef and will pay for it.
I refuse to pay extra for inferior beef.
But I'll hear your arguments...

Posted by: MkY at December 15, 2023 07:23 PM (cPGH3)

125 sharon not anything I have experienced, but a knee wrap can't hurt, see if the compression does help

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2023 07:24 PM (fwDg9)

126 You'll have to take my cat away from my cold dead hands. If I'm schizo, then you'll have to take it away from both of us. Or all of us.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 15, 2023 07:24 PM (MeG8a)

127 WASHINGTON, Oct. 12—Swine flu vaccination programs in nine states and in Pittsburgh and its suburbs were suspended today, two weeks after they began nationally, after the deaths of three elderly persons who received the vaccine yesterday at a clinic in Pittsburgh.

1976

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2023 07:26 PM (lwOKI)

128 120 Gref, i swim a couple of days a week and side stroke and breast stroke part of my routine and it does feel better afterwards. Especially after whirlpool and sauna. My Y is amazing. Pools are heated to 82-88 degrees.
It doesn't even really hurt when I walk. Afterwards it aches and the leg feels weak. I've been trying to rest and elevate it. Maybe stretching would help.
I'll probably try the brace at leat til I get back from my trip but I don;t think the knee is the problem.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:21 PM (t/2Uw)


Sharon, another suggestion if you haven't tried it. Try an elastic compression sleeve on the thigh or wrap it with an Ace bandage.

Posted by: The LightWorker (and you're not) at December 15, 2023 07:27 PM (5fDan)

129 Georgia Governor
@BrianKempGA
’s Legal Team has formally notified Georgia SOS Brad Raffensperger
@BradForGASOS
of Recording and Publishing Factually False Results concerning the 2020 Presidential Election, to include 17,852 INVALID “VOTES” recorded from
@FultonInfo
County, ALONE!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2023 07:29 PM (lwOKI)

130 Skip, figure it can't hurt. thought I had one from my racquetball days but can't find it. I'll pick one up tomorrow. Leaving Tuesday so have to get going.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)

131 "I'm interested in the studies that say autoimmune diseases are due to the lack of parasites. Body turns on itself."

According to "Cells at Work" (The definitive primer on physiology for weebs) eosinophils are the immune cells responsible for attacking parasites.

Considering that all of these monoclonal antibody (-mab) asthma treatments say "this is for the treatment of eosinophilic asthma!", that's probably the working theory behind the treatment.

Of course, if your body ever encounter anything that needs your eosinophils to not be impaired by your asthma meds, you're SOL.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 15, 2023 07:30 PM (ou9hh)

132 Sharon, sorry to hear about your knee pain. I hope it gets better before you go to Italy.

Posted by: Theodore at December 15, 2023 07:31 PM (pGonq)

133 Cannot recommend those bad boys enough. Three and a half pounds for $15. Except they seem to have stopped selling them a month ago.

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We love those; will have to check the local Costco for them (we have a bunch stored in our freezer -- and BTW, we just received our freezer temperature monitor/alarm ordered after Ace's unfortunate mishap).

I wonder if you can try to purchase them online and have them delivered?

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 15, 2023 07:31 PM (0ogfQ)

134 Sharon, another suggestion if you haven't tried it. Try an elastic compression sleeve on the thigh or wrap it with an Ace bandage.

Posted by: The LightWorker
Hmm. That's a good idea because I do think it originates in the thigh. The knee doesn't hurt unless I lift it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:33 PM (t/2Uw)

135 Thanks everyone for the advice and support. Not one person told me to slap a hot iron on it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 15, 2023 07:37 PM (t/2Uw)

136 I agree. calories don't count at a MOME. [that was me at the last one waiting for the bacon wench to make her rounds and going for seconds for whatever was left]

Posted by: Theodore at December 15, 2023 07:46 PM (pGonq)

137 I thought crazy cat lady syndrome happened because cat feces caries toxoplasmosis or some such.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 15, 2023 07:48 PM (tT6L1)

138 For people 65+ 2 vivid shots was about 80% effective in preventing death or sever illness
Thanks to Trump for getting them OKed st warp speed .

Posted by: Paul at December 15, 2023 08:14 PM (Y6G+k)

139 The pioneer behind mRNA vaccines has revealed plans for a new vaccine that immunizes against cancer more than a decade before it strikes.

--

Ah yes, the MRNA injection that the Florida Surgeon General *just* asked the FDA about because it has the potential to alter DNA in a way that the new DNA sequence will be passed along to the the next generations.

And the FDA just refuses to respond other than to say "That's misinformation"

Because it can't be talked about. The MRNA shots were dangerous, they knew they were dangerous, and now it's starting to be understood just how dangerous they were. But it doesn't matter. The entire COVID psy-op served multiple purposes, and one of them was to get the MRNA injection past the trial hurdles that it couldn't pass on its own.

Just force people to get them. There. Done.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's confirmed internet persona at December 15, 2023 08:15 PM (qZ7rd)

140 Here's the letter to the FDA if you haven't seen it:

https://tinyurl.com/yr2d4vmu

Posted by: Nikki Haley's confirmed internet persona at December 15, 2023 08:17 PM (qZ7rd)

141 Weren't world-wide anti-cancer vaccines the mechanism that, six months later, turned everyone into zombies in that Will Smith movie "I Am Legend"?

Ain't taking anything mRNA-related in the first place.

Posted by: Occasional Commenter at December 15, 2023 09:03 PM (GXBIW)

142 Way late, but maybe it will help somebody. A high protein diet could strain the kidneys. Failure to drink enough water will result in hospitalization due to kidney shut down and possible coma. It is better to err on the side drinking more water than is necessary.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 15, 2023 11:12 PM (ANFY9)

143 mRNA ??? No thanks.

Posted by: setnaffa at December 16, 2023 12:32 AM (jeNdr)

144 >>>Kirkland bratwursts from Costco ... with onions and pepper.

"Pepper" as in something like black pepper flakes? Or as in something like "minced green peppers." Recipe! Recipe!

Posted by: m at December 16, 2023 02:54 AM (T7nlx)

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