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Disney Has Another Failure On Its Hands With Activist, Pro-Socialist-Revolution "Childrens" Animation Movie Wish
Plus: Doctor Who/Whom
Even leftwing industry-shill outlets like Variety cannot hide Bob Iger's woke failure any longer.
But they're still trying, as we'll see. Wish didn't debut at #1. It didn't even debut at #2. It came in third, behind the Hunger Games prequel which premiered last week, and behind the R-rated, mixed-review Napoleon. Which is very long, so it doesn't have many showings a day. Wish, on the other hand, is like 80 minutes long, so it has lots and lots of showings."Wish" misfired in its opening weekend, extending Disney's bleak box office fortunes. The animated musical fable, about the Wishing Star that so many Disney characters have wished upon over the studio's century-long history, failed to become the de facto choice for families around Thanksgiving. "Wish" opened in third place with a dull $31.7 million over the five-day holiday, a far cry from Disney's past Turkey Day feasts. Perhaps King Magnifico, the movie's villain (voiced by Chris Pine), is holding hostage the wishes of Disney executives? Instead of recapturing the studio's magic, "Wish" joins a long list of its underperforming 2023 tentpoles, such as "The Marvels," "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny," "The Haunted Mansion," and "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania." This summer's "The Little Mermaid" didn't completely flounder with $569 million worldwide, but it's nowhere near the billion-dollar threshold that Disney's prior live-action adaptations (like "The Lion King" or "Beauty and the Beast") surpassed with ease. And although "Elemental" finished with $495 million globally, much stronger than its disappointing opening weekend would have suggested, Pixar hasn't restored its former glory after audiences were trained to watch on Disney+. (Disney is hoping that "Wish" has similar staying power during the busy holiday season.) Disney's only unmitigated success in 2023 has been "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3," which opened in May and generated a healthy $845 million globally. And even then, analysts expected the epic conclusion to James Gunn's trilogy about intergalactic misfits to get closer to $1 billion, or at least end the series on a high. (2017's "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2" remains the highest-grossing entry with $863 million.) Without a runaway blockbuster in the bunch, it's the first time since 2014 (except for the pandemic-stricken years of 2020 and 2021) that Disney hasn't launched a billion-dollar release. It's an unthinkable reality for Disney after one of the most remarkable stretches of sheer box office domination. It reached its zenith in 2019 when seven (!) of the studio's releases, including "Avengers: Endgame" and "The Lion King," hit $1 billion globally. With its repertoire of Marvel, Pixar and Lucasfilm, Disney was minting money with anything it put in theaters. But this year has hinted that Disney no longer has the Midas touch at the box office. "Disney set an impossibly high bar for itself during the 2010s, firing every cannon in its arsenal," says Shawn Robbins, the chief analyst at Boxoffice Pro. "The downside to success is that it becomes expected every time. The studio was always going to be in a challenged position when the well started to run dry."Uh, no. So much spinning for Disney. Disney is not merely underperforming compared to their 2018-2019 high. They're outright flopping, no matter what the basis of comparison. YouTubers who follow Disney report that in the last few years, Disney has made four out of the five biggest box office failures of all time, with two of them joining that list of failure in just 2023 alone.
Case in point: "Avatar: The Way of Water," which Disney released at the end of 2022, is the seventh-highest grossing domestic release of this year with $283 million, surpassing the majority of the studio's would-be blockbusters: "Ant-Man 3" ($214 million), "Indiana Jones 5" ($174 million), "Elemental" ($154 million), "The Marvels" ($76 million so far) and "Haunted Mansion" ($67 million), among them.You can't count Avatar. Disney does not own it, did not make it, and only receives a small cut of its box office. They are merely the distributor of that movie, having inherited it when they bought Fox studios, and James Cameron and his partners own almost all of the box office takings
As the movie theater business recovers from the pandemic, as well as the strikes that pushed several big blockbusters into 2024 and beyond, every studio has been forced to contend with a shrinking global box office. And while Disney doesn't have one of the top three movies of the year -- those spots belong to Warner Bros. "Barbie" ($1.4 billion) and Universal's "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" ($1.3 billion) and "Oppenheimer" ($950 million) -- it still has four of the 10-highest grossing releases worldwide. No other studio has more than two. Some of Disney's modest successes or outright flops would be classified as smashes for its rivals.This is pure Bob Iger spin -- and pure progressive cope. This is straight from Iger's deceptive shareholder earnings conference meeting. On a simple gross revenues basis, yes, Disney had four of the top ten highest grossing films -- but most of them are actually money losers because their budgets were so huge. The Marvels has currently made $190 million globally. That would sound like a lot of money, until you consider the film had a budget (with deductions made for British tax credits) of around $280 million, with another $100 million on top of that for marketing. (And of course the studio only takes 50% of the gross receipts.) Bob Iger is a liar and a hustler and should be investigated by the SEC for making plainly-deceptive claims like this, and Variety should know better than to repeat them uncritically. Much later in the piece, Variety admits this:
Disney spends huge sums of money in the belief that they are creating characters and movies that will feed their parks business. But does anyone believe that people will flock to Disney's parks to see characters the public has so overwhelmingly rejected? How many people are going to a Disney park for the thrill of seeing a severe-looking Karen actress dressed up as Captain Marvel?
But one of the biggest elements is Disney movies are hugely expensive. They require production budgets of around $200 million, not including $100 million in marketing costs. This means the studio's films have sky-high benchmarks to break even. For any other studio, getting to $500 million worldwide is an impressive feat. But for Disney, it's necessary to rationalize these film's existence. Disney justifies these costs because its movies provide value beyond their theatrical revenues; they inspire lucrative consumer product lines, theme park attractions and eventual streaming releases on Disney+.
He's focusing on woke propaganda and his dream of being the Democrat candidate for president in 2028, not in producing value for consumers or shareholders. Nolte:
Disney's CEO Bob Iger has admitted the studio's mistake in leaning into quantity over quality during the pandemic. "We lost some focus," he said during a recent earnings call.
That's Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which made a smallish profit but not the big money Disney was hoping for the topper to the trilogy. He estimates that Elementals "only" lost $1.5 million, so that almost broke even. But when you invest money, you're not looking to break even. If you just parked your money in a money market, you'd make 4.5% profit or something like that. "Breaking even" is actually losing money when you consider the things you could have invested in instead. And the rest of Disney's offerings lost tens of millions or even hundreds of millions. I heard an estimate that Disney has lost over a billion dollars cumulative for all of its 2023 releases. Meanwhile, Doctor Who returned this weekend. Or Doctor Who/Whom, as people are now calling it. The episode was all about transgenderism, baby. Including his new transgender teen companion, and a quick lecture about asking for an alien's Preferred Pronouns. Trans rights are human rights -- and alien rights, too.
The Disney Grooming Institute had the worst box office year imaginable in 2023. Couldn't happen to a nicer den of thieves of children's innocence. After losing $106 million on Lightyear (2022) and another $152 million on Strange World (2022) -- both of which featured prominent gay plotlines aimed at little kids -- the Disney Grooming Syndicate roared into 2023, hoping for a much better year. But... Thanks to Disney's cratered reputation and string of terrible movies where good storytelling and relatable characters took a backseat to divisive politics, 2023 was an even bigger disaster. According to my imperfect but good-faith estimates, only one Disney movie went into the black.
The 60th-anniversary episode of "Doctor Who" featured a transgender sidekick who scolds the show's main character for "misgendering" an alien, eliciting backlash from conservatives on X. Doctor Who called an alien known as Beep the Meep a "him," when a transgender character, who is the child of former sidekick Donna Noble, said, "You're assuming he as a pronoun?" "My chosen pronoun is the definite article. I am always 'The Meep,'" the alien said after Dr. Who apologized and asked if the character was a, "he, she, or they." The character later refers to Doctor Who as "male-presenting." "You've got all that power. But there is a way to get rid of it. Something a male-presenting time-Lord will never understand."Men denigrated again. And demanding that men give up their "power" to women and transsexuals. It never gets old.
Non-binary character meets an alien and the first reaction is to ask for pronouns.
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 26, 2023
A real scene from the new Doctor Who:
pic.twitter.com/t5rqJc4OZ0
Dr Who becomes Dr Woke.
— Oli London (@OliLondonTV) November 26, 2023
Transgender actor playing the doctors sidekick calls Dr Who ‘male-presenting.’
“You’ve got all that power. But there is a way to get rid of it.
Something a male-presenting time lord will never understand.”
pic.twitter.com/lK0vkt05pN
Did the BBC/Disney bring back David Tennant for the 60th anniversary of Doctor Who to celebrate 5 decades of a brilliant show or...
— Nerdrotic (@Nerdrotics) November 26, 2023
correct the Doctor's pronouns?#RIPDoctorWho https://t.co/ic8Hr9gdb8
>>> Tennant is doing Who again? I mean, such as it is. He's only doing three "specials," to try to restore interest in the franchise before the new doctor, a gay black man (of course!), takes over.I should have mentioned that in the original post. Yes, the next new Doctor is gay and black. So they brought in Tennant briefly to try to get former fans to come back. #RIPDoctorWho was trending on twitter over the weekend. But honestly, it's been dead for years and years.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: GF at November 27, 2023 04:45 PM (aJxr8)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:46 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 04:46 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 27, 2023 04:47 PM (cOq4q)
Another Disney anal prolapse
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 04:48 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 27, 2023 04:48 PM (I/Qkd)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 27, 2023 04:49 PM (I/Qkd)
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at November 27, 2023 04:50 PM (srAlb)
Posted by: huerfano at November 27, 2023 04:50 PM (Q4KYm)
You will take your scolding and like it...
The Hienerschniedite woke marketing class see themselves as being correct, which is more important than money.
Posted by: Auspex at November 27, 2023 04:50 PM (j4U/Z)
Hollywood won't make a movie about how laughably absurd it is that we now allow grown men to call themselves women and then dominate women's sports.
So we did.
Introducing our first feature-length comedy, 'LADY BALLERS.'
Available December 1st, only on DailyWirePlus.com
https://tinyurl.com/yfaj98k7
2:54 minutes trailer
Seth Dillon @SethDillon 3h
Yes. The madness must be mocked.
Well done, Jeremy. You'll get a mention when I win Best Supporting Actor for my part in this.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 04:50 PM (krqg6)
It's like if Elon Musk, after every failed launch at Space X, said "That went pretty well, let's do exactly the same again".
Posted by: Archimedes at November 27, 2023 04:51 PM (I/Qkd)
They've decided it's now getting too expensive to stick by woke policies and lose hundreds of millions per movie - rather than change the policies, they'll just cut losses making fewer movies - sorry, Hollywood.
2 birds, 1 stone. Keep up the Disney theatrical boycott. Every movie counts...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 27, 2023 04:51 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 04:51 PM (ynpvh)
Hollywood won't make a movie about how laughably absurd it is that we now allow grown men to call themselves women and then dominate women's sports.
So we did.
Introducing our first feature-length comedy, 'LADY BALLERS.'
lol
Posted by: ace at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: Old English Cartmaster at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (Mig/N)
Because the current western cinema/television/books/all of media is both insane, actively evil, and of terrible quality.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (zjgNU)
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I haven't watched Doctor Who since it was in the nickelodeons of my youth at Coney Island.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 27, 2023 04:53 PM (cZ6oU)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 04:53 PM (AcWfM)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 27, 2023 04:53 PM (TzW+Y)
Because the current western cinema/television/books/all of media is both insane, actively evil, and of terrible quality.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (zjgNU)
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It's less than you realize that you have access to.
You have access to a lot, but even discounting lost films, there's still a whole bunch that's not on streaming.
Unless you visit some Russian friends from time to time, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
Headline: Stephen Colbert suffers ruptured appendix; "Late Show" cancelled as he recovers.
I know, I know, CBS executives might change their mind. Just let me bask in the moment.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (BHrzb)
It never gets old.
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This ties in with my willowed comment about the left and their desire to have Harris in the White House to literally "stick it to the man." Seriously. If *biden's ousted and doesn't run again she's their girl. And it will suck bigly.
As for Disney; they've eaten the bag of dicks and are looking for more.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Roy at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (z+ik4)
I mean, such as it is. He's only doing like three "specials," to try to restore interest in the franchise before the new doctor, a gay black man (of course!), takes over.
Posted by: ace at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (KRtlO)
Also, My 2024 prediction: The new AI gets control of a shop vac and Daleks make their first appearance in 2024
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (z+89e)
Dr. Who/Whom is a fag show from a fag country.
The need to do an episode called "The Time Lord and The Rape Gangs Of Bradford".
Maybe they can get the pronouns right on that one.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (R/m4+)
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Yep. You need not only do better than the zero risk return you have to be compensated for your risk. Even getting a 4.5% return would be a loss because you take a risk with your money and only get back the same return you’d get with no risk. If the zero risk return is 4.5% a fair return given the risk would be at least 8%.
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (YofvK)
Posted by: Nova Local at November 27, 2023 04:51 PM (exHjb)
Oh, is it only a theatrical boycott?
I have a "boycott everything Disney."*
Except what I already own from the time that they didn't hate me and my family. However, I don't think this breaks a boycott.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (SYTee)
I mean, such as it is. He's only doing like three "specials," to try to restore interest in the franchise before the new doctor, a gay black man (of course!), takes over.
Posted by: ace at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (KRtlO)
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And instead of just doing class Who stuff, they shove in the trans stuff in the first special.
Because Russel T. Davies, the guy who ended every episode he wrote with the end of the world being averted for real this time, is a great writer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (T/Lqj)
Posted by: Crazy to be sane at November 27, 2023 04:56 PM (A5tV5)
Posted by: Roy at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (z+ik4)
Dr. Jill > Post-Tom Baker Dr. Who
FIFY
Now off my lawn.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 27, 2023 04:56 PM (N3zMI)
I didn’t like GotG 3 one bit. Have no desire for a second viewing.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 04:56 PM (MNhXM)
The First Omen
Planet of the Apes Sequel
Deadpool 3
Inside Out 2
Mufasa
Alien: Romulus
The Amateur
All can be skipped theatrically.
PS - Feel free to go to movies from Dec to Mar. Disney has no releases from now until April with the First Omen,
Posted by: Nova Local at November 27, 2023 04:57 PM (exHjb)
And this is from a guy who watched Star Wars IV 20 times in the theater.
Posted by: Archer at November 27, 2023 04:57 PM (gmo/4)
It's the Marianas Turkey Shoot, only with movies!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 04:57 PM (aZBZS)
You have access to a lot, but even discounting lost films, there's still a whole bunch that's not on streaming.
Unless you visit some Russian friends from time to time, that is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
Oh, we still have access to it. It's just not EASY access. (Aside from the lost films.)
But you're right about EFFECTIVE access. Lots of movies that aren't lost are also not on Dvd.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:57 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 04:58 PM (YofvK)
I didn’t like GotG 3 one bit. Have no desire for a second viewing.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 04:56 PM (MNhXM)
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GOTG seems to be held up differently than the rest of the MCU, probably because it's the only sub-franchise actually driven by one guy with an artistic vision, whether you like the vision or not.
GOTG3 was obviously the work of someone trying to make something good, as opposed to some no-name filmmaker brought into a machine to follow ever-changing instructions from corporate heads.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 27, 2023 04:58 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Montec
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And if you can figure out which way these screwballs are going to turn next more power to you.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2023 04:58 PM (2SU7d)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 27, 2023 04:58 PM (ec0su)
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 27, 2023 04:58 PM (VdGjU)
ah fffff ....
anyway Tennant sucks. he should go back to ruining Gaiman crap with his hammy acting
Dr Who did used to be fun people! it wasn't THAT long ago? anyway the tall dude was a great Dr Who and had Karen Gillan as his Companion. I of course still am devoted to Tom Baker (with K9 and Sarah Jane!).
this is just bilge now. sad.
Paul McGann was a great Doctor, only got a few specials. they should have brought him back he probably would have read the scripts and said no anyway
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (AcWfM)
The King is a turd.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (MeG8a)
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My favorite part of this is that it's not just the flops, it's that each flop is the death of a scheduled multi-year revenue stream.
E.g., Wish's Thanksgiving release was to kick off its Christmas toys that will now never appear.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (TzW+Y)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (MNhXM)
I've got a transgender teen companion and I keep her, sorry, they, locked in my sex dungeon.
Its good to be a famous actor.
Posted by: Ezra Miller at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Hansel at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (vFG9F)
Word on the street says there is a transgender message in the movie...
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (Vu1jV)
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Exterminate! Exterminate!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: Nova Local at November 27, 2023 04:51 PM (exHjb)
Oh, is it only a theatrical boycott?
I have a "boycott everything Disney."*
Except what I already own from the time that they didn't hate me and my family. However, I don't think this breaks a boycott.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (zjgNU)
That's the ideal boycott, but like Amazon, it's hard to avoid EVERYTHING Disney, especially with kids. So, theaters is the easiest way to deliver the most pain and the most public pain the quickest.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 27, 2023 05:00 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (Vu1jV)
It’s guaranteed.
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:01 PM (YofvK)
I really liked Ian McShane in Gaiman's American Gods. He was really the reason to watch. Emily Browning, Crispin Glover, and Pablo Schreiber were all good as well but McShane stole the show.
Of course the gay genie sex was the reason to stop watching...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 27, 2023 05:02 PM (XqcwY)
I've been tied up buying gifts for grand neices and nephews most of whom I've never met so can now resume my regularly scheduled programming.
The thing about Disney that amazes me is that they stopped making movies for children. The movies are for that insane demographic that loves all the letters in the LGBTQ+ alphabet. The problem is that they don;t go to Disney movies. Disney has abandoned the geeks, romantics and children who want to be entertained not lectured to.
I stopped buying any toy, clothing item that has any kind of Disney character logo or reference. Ihave no desire to ever take my grandkids to Disneyworld. I am not alone in this.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 27, 2023 05:02 PM (t/2Uw)
But also to be honest, it wasn't that good. The songs needed better writers. And it's chock full of "Easter eggs" referring to other Disney IP which goes over well with fans, but isn't really for general audiences. And the references aren't as clever as they think.
Posted by: InZona at November 27, 2023 05:02 PM (/D9Dj)
Posted by: Woke Vader at November 27, 2023 05:02 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:46 PM
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Yes. Yes it had. Under Chibnall's reign the franchise has been destroyed for another generation. Just like all the long-running franchises (MCU, Star Wars, etc.) they need to shelve Dr. Who for a decade and then maybe try reviving it again. That's why the New Doctor Who worked back in 2005.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:02 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 27, 2023 04:58 PM (VdGjU)
Well, truth be told, there are a lot of fat, sweaty bespeckled dudes running around. They are called federal employees.
Newman!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 27, 2023 05:02 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (MNhXM)
I wanted to try Saltburn (which probably isn't good but Richard Grant) and they were fighting about the new hunger games one but we ended up at The Holdovers (empty Friday night theater, so not a hot choice apparently)
it was cute. way too long. the kids stayed awake so that's probably a good review in and of itself.
there were people literally milling around trying to think "is there anything here to see?"
saddest Thanksgiving weekend EVER my God
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (AcWfM)
It's like the soccer of the sci-fi genre.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 27, 2023 04:53 PM (TzW+Y)
I saw it first in the Baker years and it was pleasant enough kids/adults fare, more about situations than THE MESSAGE. In common with a lot of entertainment in the late 70s/80s.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Hansel at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: DOYLE at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (47HPh)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 27, 2023 05:04 PM (qoGsy)
But pharma makes billions in “anxiety” medication so like autism and ADD all the kids now get diagnosed with it.
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:04 PM (YofvK)
that was the good newer Dr - I can't remember his name! - the guy on House of the Dragon
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 05:04 PM (AcWfM)
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at November 27, 2023 05:04 PM (4XOnv)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 27, 2023 05:03 PM (47HPh)
I thought, in the latest book, he already was there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:05 PM (ynpvh)
Gunn was walking a tight rope trying to make his reputation at that phase when he crosses over to WB and the DCU he started tacking left.
There are only two things that can explain this:
1) he feels liberated in his success and shingle change to let his freak flag fly and go full leftard as seen in Peacemaker and his other DC work
*and/or*
2) WB is if anything even more woke under the hood than Maus Haus and the pressure was exerted on him with compliance
It pisses me off, because GOTG1 was a surprise hit and I had been following its production and knew it was if not anti-woketard 3000 was at least Woke agnostic.
At any rate that is your "original gun toting anthropomorphic raccoon" update.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:05 PM (X0I7i)
And this is from a guy who watched Star Wars IV 20 times in the theater.
Posted by: Archer at November 27, 2023 04:57 PM (gmo/4)
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I'm begging you with tears in my eyes, DO NOT WATCH The Last Jedi or The Rise of Skywalker. Rise of Skywalker was *worse* than Last Jedi and I didn't even think that was possible.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:05 PM (7fElN)
Hollywood gave itself a ton of awards for "Call Me By Your Name" which is about a an adult man raping an underaged teen boy.
Note...it wasn't a "don't be a loser" drama like Lolita or a horror movie...it was presented as a romance.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 27, 2023 05:06 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 05:06 PM (SYTee)
https://youtu.be/5z0IBHQKHpk
Posted by: Ciampino - Rockets glaring nad all that at November 27, 2023 05:06 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at November 27, 2023 05:06 PM (zer5o)
Posted by: Archer at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (gmo/4)
oh me too!
I was ripping Tennant and Good Omens II which was horrendous
and Tennant is annoying
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (AcWfM)
As for Disney; they've eaten the bag of dicks and are looking for more.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 27, 2023 04:54 PM (Q4IgG)
That's crazy, everyone hates Harris. Look at all the mean girl articles whenever whoever is installed as her staffers gets in a snit and quits all gleefully repeated in the press.
They might, if forced run her and turn her into Saint Kamala, but nobody is backing her right now.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Ben Had
Hoping that it is a huge *hit*!
(Hi Ben Had!)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (sYty7)
(j/k, don't ban me)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 27, 2023
Let's talk about some Star Trek, then?
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (Vu1jV)
Because the current western cinema/television/books/all of media is both insane, actively evil, and of terrible quality.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (zjgNU)
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Yes, I say there are thousands of good to great movies I've never seen that can fill my time if I wanted to.
The other night my father wanted to watch Enemy Below and I never saw it before. That was a darn good movie for free on YouTube.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (FETwG)
The optimistic and values-based entertainment certainly shaped my development.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (RIvkX)
Dr. Who/Whom is a fag show from a fag country.
The need to do an episode called "The Time Lord and The Rape Gangs Of Bradford".
Maybe they can get the pronouns right on that one.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (R/m4+)
Is it rape when it's consensual for the Doc and the Rapists?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (gxokI)
Posted by: Hansel
Nah - Dr. Hook
Posted by: Tonypete
I forgot!!
Also, Dr. Miguelito Loveless
Posted by: Tonypete at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (qoGsy)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (AcWfM)
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David Tennant seems to get a lot of love for being THE BEST DOCTOR EVER!!!!
However, I find Matt Smith's performances to be equally compelling, if not more so, in many episodes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Woke Vader at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (R4t5M)
Right totally capitalist except the "freedom" to make wishes in this context by my understanding is prediated not on economic liberty....
no no sir it is on identity issues as a thinly veiled pastiche up to an including matters carnal.
As though the last 50 years were the most oppressive rather than the most permissive in western civ's last 1500 years.
F*CK the Mouse.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (xcxpd)
Good luck pointing out all the grooming and other detrimental things Disney does to children.
Posted by: Beartooth at November 27, 2023 05:09 PM (M8a49)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 27, 2023 05:09 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 27, 2023 05:09 PM (R4t5M)
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That c0cksucker sure can act!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 05:09 PM (krqg6)
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I was so looking forward to that back in 2017.
Mary Sue annoyed me, the fucking retarded Marvel-esque dialogue annoyed me more, the soy boy darth vader mini-me clone pansy ass emo-fag annoyed me even more, and then when Han Solo was unceremoniously killed off I was uber annoyed
Havent watched Stars Wars since
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Longing for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: The MCU is Really, Really Dumb at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (FHllF)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (t/2Uw)
There was a wonderful film I bought from Japan this last weekend called The Untold Tale of the Three Kingdoms.
90% of acceptable entertainment comes from foreign shores these days.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Zek at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (FETwG)
We build 'em good in Germany, eh, Heine?
Posted by: Archer at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Montec
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Grinding wheels of the left.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (2SU7d)
thank you! yes! Matt is great. the other tall guy with Rose was great.
Tennant is a little annoying pissant
the old guy I just ignored
it's been mixed, the new Doctor Who. but there were bright spots with Matt and the first guy
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (AcWfM)
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (lg881)
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They've made Back to the Future sequels/remakes??
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:05 PM (7fElN)
Watch instead one of the many long form trashing the movies on Youtube. Mauler, The Critical Drinker (but might be before his time). They are longer, and actually teach why they are bad.
The last two movies were like two dogs fighting over a bone in a paper bag over a grate, until the bag rips and the bone falls into the sewer. The second undos the first, and the third undos the second.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (Vu1jV)
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I showed my students characters from The Original Series (Kirk, Spock, and McCoy) and NO ONE recognized them.
So sad.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Swerjun at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (SYTee)
Looking back on it, they would have been far, far better off focusing the show on the black storm trooper guy. Every other character was stupid, a Mary Sue, or just a hamfisted ideology insert.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (XqcwY)
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That's essentially how I get my entertainment these days
go away now
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Longing for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (VTu1l)
Bring Out Your Joe Biden Administration..........
Bring Out Your Joe Biden Administration..........
Posted by: Old English Cartmaster from Monty Python at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (Mig/N)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: DaveA at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (FhXTo)
The end of Donna Noble's time as a companion was poignant and tragic. It had gravitas. Bringing her back for the sake of a memberberry is just cheap.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (9yUzE)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (7l68o)
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What black storm trooper?
Posted by: Chinese Audiences at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (VTu1l)
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No. Maybe a bit above 50% but nowhere near 3/4. AWFLs have kids. So do teachers. So do blacks. So do federal govt employees, etc.
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (YofvK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (RSbhh)
Posted by: Woke Vader at November 27, 2023 05:08 PM (R4t5M)
Star Trek had giant Tardigrades that could do that while on shrooms.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (ynpvh)
Dr. Who/Whom is a fag show from a fag country.
The need to do an episode called "The Time Lord and The Rape Gangs Of Bradford".
Maybe they can get the pronouns right on that one.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Poetic
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (np9nb)
But Chinese audiences don't like black characters, so he was reduced to comic relief. Disney is all about DEI, but only in this hemisphere.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (9yUzE)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 27, 2023 05:07 PM (FETwG)
I believe the first Romulan show on the Star Trek owes a lot of its structure from that. The cloaked Romulan = Sub, Kirk is the destroyer hunting it.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (t/2Uw)
Maybe I have tunnel vision but after Iron Man, it seem they felt they had to follow DEI guidelines in all the sequels.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 27, 2023 05:10 PM (t/2Uw)
Yep. And my only reason for liking The Tomorrow War.
Posted by: Archer at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (gmo/4)
That they stole off an indy video game developer they never paid who got beaten by them in court....
in STD it is "retardiogrades" I guess....
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (X0I7i)
The end of Donna Noble's time as a companion was poignant and tragic. It had gravitas. Bringing her back for the sake of a memberberry is just cheap.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (9yUzE)
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This kind of crap is done by people who have no actual idea why the fans are fans.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (7l68o)
It is better to
a/ make a movie that costs the studio $200M and breaks even than
b/ make a movie that costs $100M and has $100M in profit.
That $100M is taxed and ends up as cash, possibly dividends to shareholders. So if you can waste that $100M on salaries, perks for executives, and spending on connected friends, etc, then it is a way of turning shareholder profit into executive and employee profit. That is, assuming their costs are so high because there is a lot of internal waste.
In this case, the "woke" crap is part of the scam as it happens those are the executives in on the scheme. Same with the pedos in DC, they are all in on the scheme, and they can be trusted because of the Kompromat.
I have seen executives in other industries, who have a lot of stock options, sabotage share price and then argue to board that they need a ton more options to make up for the loss, and then they make out like bandits when the stock recovers due to the low strike price and high numbers. Is this happening. (really I do not follow this beyond Ace's posts, so I may be way off.)
Posted by: Also not an accountant at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (wqeqf)
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I think it was Paul Joseph Watson who reported perhaps 5% of the UK are light in the loafers, while 95% of characters in BBC shows were the same
representation!
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Longing for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:16 PM (MNhXM)
The origin movie stories in phase 1 I think had the liberty to not be shit....
all of the follow ups kept cranking up the tard strength.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:16 PM (X0I7i)
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They've made Back to the Future sequels/remakes??
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (krqg6)
"It's what makes time travel possible"--Doc Brown
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:16 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (RSbhh)
The mean king isn't granting everyone's wishes. Well, the girl boss's grandpa's wish mostly.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:16 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Dr. Who In The Hell Wrote This Crap? at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (Eqssc)
Posted by: McLurkerson at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (wNDOJ)
Posted by: Pete Bootygig at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (MNhXM)
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The 80s TV version with Richard Chamberlain is also pretty good.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (MNhXM)
I liked his side-kick's ghetto-ass advice for getting even.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (ynpvh)
what is this Poor Things movie with an ugly version of Emma Stone? (which means she's actually ugly without all the trappings, frankly)
I've been seeing that preview for what seems like YEARS
will that ever come out? not that I want it to, mind you.
the rest were just embarrassingly bad. the Woo xmas thing might be passable, I dunno. still a shit preview.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (AcWfM)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: McLurkerson at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (wNDOJ)
I'm assuming that's tax dollar losses and not cash flow losses. Correct?
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (ju2Fy)
Which goes back to what makes ST TOS go?
1) it is a space western wagons ho story to a degree
2) it is also the US ww2 navy in space
3) it is a subtle hat tip to the cold war
"luckily" they denuded all of that as time wore on and Gene Gene the snorting machine got high on promo powder
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 27, 2023 05:12 PM (9yUzE)
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Exactly. It was heartbreaking to realize that she would never remember the magical time she had with The Doctor or that she was the key to saving the entire universe. She went back to her boring old life while those around her had to protect her from ever learning about what she was capable of. If she ever remembered it, her mind would be destroyed.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (ynpv
That’s every role for him. I like him though. One of the most recognizable character actors .
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:19 PM (MNhXM)
But Chinese audiences don't like black characters, so he was reduced to comic relief. Disney is all about DEI, but only in this hemisphere.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 27, 2023 05:14 PM (9yUzE)
Didn't Disney remove him from the movie poster for the Chinese market for this very reason?
Posted by: Why do racist? at November 27, 2023 05:19 PM (FHllF)
Posted by: Zek
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Corporations are relearning that regardless of financing that the big three like Black Rock, Vanguard, and State Street want, ultimately, you have to produce product that people want or you don't have any revenue and thus end the corporation.
Even the vaunted IP of Disney is worthless if you have to piss all over it over and over again to gain new fans at teh expense of the existing audience.
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:19 PM (np9nb)
That they stole off an indy video game developer they never paid who got beaten by them in court....
in STD it is "retardiogrades" I guess....
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (X0I7i)
Yup, I'm familiar with the story. Directly ripped it off from the game.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 27, 2023 05:19 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (SYTee)
One certainly can't rule that out. But then we'd have consider involvement with 90+% of media in all its venues. I'd say you have a very good chance of being correct in your assessment.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (BdMk6)
Heh. Whoopsie
Posted by: mindful webworker - editor at small at November 27, 2023 04:25 PM (ePgRp)
Hey, how much money can a company piss away?
Posted by: Ford EV at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (hEv4o)
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I just finished the second season of HBO's Perry Mason. I liked it but I noticed how much everything had to cost. For example, the opening scene concerns the arson of a gambling ship. The arsonist begins in a packed room with roulette wheels and other gambling devices. He moves through many dozen gamblers, waiters etc. all in period costume (1933). Then through the kitchen into laundry where he starts the fire. All that for a minor plot point. And dozens of period cars.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Also not an accountant at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (wqeqf)
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You read the posts??
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (RIvkX)
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that and covered Black Panther with the mask instead of showing his face in another poster
diversity! (in movie poster pandering)
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Longing for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: olddog in mo
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Nope, their cash is shrinking too as they just had to fork over billions this year to buy out their Hulu partner.
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (np9nb)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:20 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:13 PM (MNhXM)
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The 80s TV version with Richard Chamberlain is also pretty good.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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The Duellists, with Harvey Keitel, Keith Carradine and Albert Finney. I think it was Ridley Scott's first film.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (Dm8we)
Posted by: Also not an accountant at November 27, 2023 05:15 PM (wqeqf)
They play some games, but people sniff out that even these costs aren't all included and put the company into the red.
A main issue now is that what comes out from your 250 million but really 350 million movie is a padded out, tired, ugly film with poor special effects that looks worse than a lot of 50 million dollar movies. Someone is skimming money for sure, but its cannibalization, because these duds don't boost toy sales, don't make people flock to the park or by 100 made for DVD/streaming add on shows. The administration is too bloated and can't be supported on this kind of income stream.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (YRsIm)
Even the vaunted IP of Disney is worthless if you have to piss all over it over and over again to gain new fans at teh expense of the existing audience.
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:19 PM (np9nb)
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Cheap money allows a lot of vice.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (FETwG)
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 04:55 PM (SYTee)
Sure, but in the old days the CIA could make good movies.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Dr. Who Boy Does He Have To Put Up With a Lot of BS at November 27, 2023 05:22 PM (Eqssc)
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:19 PM (np9nb)
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Amazon will probably never learn this lesson since streaming programming is just a small part of their revenue stream, if any. They can blow money on vanity projects and deconstructing IP like there's no tomorrow because they make up for the losses with other means.
Disney relies on cruises and theme parks for their alternate cash flow, but those are dependent to some extent on their entertainment product. If one goes, the other will follow.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:22 PM (7fElN)
If you get an Amazon gift card spend it on a prime subscription and watch "goliath" Billy Bob Thorton is awesome as a burnout lawyer.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:22 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:23 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Walt Disney's Force Ghost at November 27, 2023 05:23 PM (PJaTp)
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:22 PM (X0I7i)
I don’t know his politics which is a point in his favor but I really like BBT as an actor.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:24 PM (MNhXM)
In: "The insanity of any woke institution can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by the not so secret gay agenda"
Posted by: Chuck C at November 27, 2023 05:24 PM (xttsV)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:18 PM (V13WU)
Oh, you watch. She's going to be fired real soon. Yessiree. Any time now.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 27, 2023 05:24 PM (BdMk6)
I showed my students characters from The Original Series (Kirk, Spock, and McCoy) and NO ONE recognized them.
So sad.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (7fElN)
YouTube reaction videos of millennials to TOS have started to crop up.
Most of them are - "OMG this is great" and "Were women in the 60s that thirsty?". (If only they knew, this happens for real men)
Spock's Brain has yet to make an appearance.
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (Vu1jV)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:23 PM (V13WU)
You think the Caviezel version sucked?
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Wally at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (hqVaF)
Posted by: Naked Guy In A Small World at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (cZ6oU)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (YRsIm)
I was expecting that from the actor being an older glum looking guy. For most of Nappy's career, he was a brilliant, active general that grabbed everyone's attention, even those who hated him. I didn't see how you could cover his career well in one movie.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:27 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 27, 2023 05:27 PM (cZ6oU)
I showed my students characters from The Original Series (Kirk, Spock, and McCoy) and NO ONE recognized them.
So sad.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 27, 2023 05:11 PM (7fElN)
YouTube reaction videos of millennials to TOS have started to crop up.
Most of them are - "OMG this is great" and "Were women in the 60s that thirsty?". (If only they knew, this happens for real men)
Spock's Brain has yet to make an appearance.
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (Vu1jV)
Heh, lets see reactions to the episode where the woman takes over Kirk's body and tries and fails to captain a starship.
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 05:27 PM (SYTee)
i've got friends in .ru places...
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at November 27, 2023 05:27 PM (Vu7A1)
I knew it would suck but I watched downsizing as well. Kind of to see how bad it was. Man was it bad. Like wow what the duck was that bad.
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:28 PM (YofvK)
Posted by: Lee Strasberg's Ghost at November 27, 2023 05:28 PM (Eqssc)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:29 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:29 PM (YofvK)
I kept watching the new stuff through Matt Smith but was noticing that they started slightly injecting feminist overtones; By the time the old guy came in, it started becoming a feminist wet dream, topped off with Jodie.
I stopped watching a little bit into Old Guy's tenure and never went back. Gary kept me informed that it became a massive woke cesspool when they brought on Dr. Karen.
From the stuff in this post, they are tripling down on the enormous failure of Dr. Karen's "The Timeless Children" which completely wrecked the character and spit in the face of everyone who worked on the show for the past 60ish years. That they have the gall to further insult the fans by saying "male-presenting guy is dumb" after the worst ratings the show ever had came after they tried to make him a woman - all I can say is fuck the BBC and the dead horse they're trying to ride on
Posted by: Deseret Rebel at November 27, 2023 05:30 PM (PJaTp)
The source material has been troubling in the age of film for a few reasons:
1) the story itself while not offending my own moral sensibility is a revenge tale where like Magneto no matter how sympathetic we are to his cause he crosses the moral horizon regarding balance of reciprocity
2) When it was written society was dealing with the aftermath of a revolution/counter-revolution cycle Dumas had suffered familaly for some of the cycle
3) it is LOOONNNGG and I love it for it, but is long a proper treatment requires either a trilogy or mini-series....
speaking of which if you have not seen this treatment enjoy
https://youtu.be/bF1Z7irZLdY?si=67tLz75cYz7Ml4AN
Count of Monte Cristo 1964 mini series
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:30 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Giant ant at November 27, 2023 05:30 PM (63Dwl)
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Adapt? I haven't even tried making an original one yet.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 27, 2023 05:30 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (Vu1jV)
I kinda like Spock's Brain. The actress doing the flip from the malicious super intelligent brain stealer to the super dumb bimbo they find later with the brain is great.
Similarly Turnabout Intruder, where a crazy ex of Kirk has her mind swapped with his to become captain. Great performance of the lady doing a Kirk imitation. Shatner, of course, can play the insane ex-girlfriend to the hilt.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:30 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 05:27 PM (SYTee)
"Turnabout Intruder" - I bet the Shat had a lot of fun doing that one.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 27, 2023 05:30 PM (N3zMI)
The original Star Wars sucked.
Even the actors in the last "award" scene getting their medals looked embarrassed.
Posted by: Auspex at November 27, 2023 05:31 PM (j4U/Z)
Corporations are relearning that regardless of financing that the big three like Black Rock, Vanguard, and State Street want, ultimately, you have to produce product that people want or you don't have any revenue and thus end the corporation.
Even the vaunted IP of Disney is worthless if you have to piss all over it over and over again to gain new fans at teh expense of the existing audience.
Posted by: whig
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Vanguard. Mine in their managed fund. "when the market's up you don't go up as much as funds with more risk, when the market's down you don't go down as much as funds with more risk."
WRONG
what came to was - when the market's up you lose, when the market's down you lose more - .
They and BlackRock and their kindred spirits should be broken up.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2023 05:31 PM (2SU7d)
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 27, 2023 05:31 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:28 PM (YofvK)
Downsizing was such a disappointment. They could have done so much with that premise, I was surprised though that they kind of dissed the environmental lunatics.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:31 PM (MNhXM)
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My favorite review quote from when Star Trek Voyager premiered was,
"We finally have a female starship captain in the lead role and the first thing she does is break the ship and get every one lost."
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Longing for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom at November 27, 2023 05:31 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 27, 2023 05:32 PM (uSHSS)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2023 05:32 PM (oiNtH)
let me reiterate the place that holds Jerry fucking Lewis to be the ultimate expression of Anglosphere Art was charmed....
the FROGS.....
to normal folk he was a nutjob who understood concentration of force.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:33 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 27, 2023 05:21 PM (Dm8we)
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Brilliant movie. Got the Blu-Ray.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 27, 2023 05:33 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 27, 2023 05:33 PM (iqZMp)
Yeah, that's what I thought too. I expected them to portray him as charismatic, flamboyant, give 'em hell persona but instead they portrayed him as a standoffish, pussy whipped opportunist. It'd need to be at least a three-quel to cover that career.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 27, 2023 05:34 PM (YRsIm)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 27, 2023 05:34 PM (T/Lqj)
Jerry Lewis will alway be remembered fondly by me just for his locker room and boxing scene in Sailor Beware. I’m laughing just thinking about it.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:34 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Deseret Rebel at November 27, 2023 05:35 PM (PJaTp)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 27, 2023 05:34 PM (T/Lqj)
My Father was a Six Flags fan. We went to three of them.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:36 PM (MNhXM)
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Joaquin Phoenix is older than Nap was at Waterloo.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 27, 2023 05:36 PM (ScR16)
to normal folk he was a nutjob who understood concentration of force.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:33 PM (X0I7i)
He also knew skirmishing, its better to take bits of your levies and have them shoot up the other side while they stand there looking pretty.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:36 PM (eoQWY)
I am a Lewis fan, even enjoyed "Hardly Working"...
just the frog love of him....wow dude wow.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:36 PM (X0I7i)
Basic plot: magic king collects peoples wishes and puts them in a bubble... and grants one or two a year. Heroine wants her grandfather's wish granted. Finds out that people no longer remember their wish when they give it to the king, so asks for the wish back since it will never be granted... and king reveals it's mostly a power trip for him to rule and make decisions for everyone. The Wishing star shows up, and the star and heroine decide to steal the wish back and give it to grandfather so he at least knows what he wished for.
Finds out that she is now a traitor, and king is spooked by wishing star, seeing it as a threat to his power. Heroine starts a little rebellion, king embraces full on evil magic and it goes rapidly into "fight evil dude" scene.
Honestly, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Didn't have any sappy love story at all, one minor character had a crutch, but no LGBT nonsense. The king was white but his color didn't seem to matter.
Songs weren't all that great, and the donkey is clearly the start.
Posted by: GanGanowicz at November 27, 2023 05:37 PM (nZeMj)
Posted by: GOP sandwich tally of the day at November 27, 2023 05:37 PM (Eqssc)
Save your cash and wait for it to come out on some streaming service. For free.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 27, 2023 05:37 PM (YRsIm)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:36 PM (MNhXM)
The superior theme park is one with some rides, but lines short enough you can go on them all as much as you like.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:37 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (eYF7X)
Posted by: JT at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: JT at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (T4tVD)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (e6UQI)
Posted by: Giant ant at
** golf clap **
*** Incredibly nervous golf clap … ***
Posted by: Adriane the Holiday Makes for Delicious Leftover Critic . . . at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (4Winp)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (MNhXM)
yes. made cheesy soap opera out of it. for example, Albert is not Monte Cristo's son.
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (V13WU)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (e6UQI)
I like the one where he slides over the hood of his cop car.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: setnaffa at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (PAmVZ)
Posted by: Ronna Delecto at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (woPEM)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (MNhXM)
yes. made cheesy soap opera out of it. for example, Albert is not Monte Cristo's son.
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (V13WU)
Okay you read the book. That was your mistake.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:40 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:22 PM (X0I7i)
I'll do it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 27, 2023 05:41 PM (FVME7)
Her and Ingraham could open a Fish Lips ride.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 27, 2023 05:41 PM (eYF7X)
so the lesson being taught is that unless a system gives everyone everything they want it is structurally corrupt...
added bonus that young girl boss wanting HER gramps' wish most of all is not any kind of selfish....
Luckily the young girl boss topples the old evil person whose sin was kind of granting hollow "hope" to the masses before reaching into "evil magic"
great lessons to be teaching kids....bonus points if you understand that with two ounces effort I just made this a damning indictment of Barack Obama who ran on hope did not get a lot of shit done and weaponized the state to do evil magic....
sadly the little girl will never topple him.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:41 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2023 05:42 PM (RSbhh)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
Good advice - think I'll wait
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2023 05:42 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (MNhXM)
yes. made cheesy soap opera out of it. for example, Albert is not Monte Cristo's son.
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:39 PM (V13WU)
I don't remember if the Chamberlain version made that same change, I don't think so. It was just the appeal by his ex girl that made him see what his desire for revenge was doing to him IIRC.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:42 PM (eoQWY)
@amuse
@amuse
Equity… Family members of the armed robber killed by a store clerk are angry the clerk was armed. Their brother counted on the store’s policy as a ‘gun-free’ zone to ensure his safety.
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That "gun free zone" sign was just a tease.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 27, 2023 05:42 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 27, 2023 05:42 PM (A+8Yx)
WRONG
what came to was - when the market's up you lose, when the market's down you lose more - .
They and BlackRock and their kindred spirits should be broken up.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Those executives in the Big Three are purposefully flaunting fiduciary duties to their account holders and the rising markets have hidden their flaws to most so far.
Since Treasury allowed both them and banks to get so large, don't think there is enough to save them all this time if we get a market panic like in 2008.
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:43 PM (np9nb)
I am glad you found it tolerable and if it was a great evening with good popcorn good for you....
I am just sick and tired of gatherings of millionaires trying to message constantly "ALL THIS NEEDS CHANGED" all the time.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:43 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: JT at November 27, 2023 05:43 PM (T4tVD)
The best Star Wars movie was the one with Shatner seeing the gremlin out on the wing of the Maltese Falcon.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Indeed!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 05:43 PM (aZBZS)
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:42 PM (eoQWY)
I think that one had some BS happy ending. Which the book does not exactly...I mean it does have a redemptive ending, not necessarily a happy one for all.
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (V13WU)
oompa loompa doompity doo
that's what misusing pronouns does to you
oompa loompa dimpity dee
never assume it's a he or a she!
Posted by: unverified rumor at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Naked Guy In A Small World at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (DzSdD)
Posted by: tubal at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (PCK5/)
right.....
film will not allow the actual REAL ending which is:
1) f*ck them all they WILL PAY
2) I guess since it is Mercedes' son the little asshole can live
3) f*ck off mercedes I am leaving with the exotic concubine on the last few million.
Turns out that probably does not poll well with the wimmin folks
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:45 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: JT at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (T4tVD)
wilt as in "I was in the pool !"
Posted by: JT at November 27, 2023 05:45 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:45 PM (V13WU)
@amuse
Equity… Family members of the armed robber killed by a store clerk are angry the clerk was armed. Their brother counted on the store’s policy as a ‘gun-free’ zone to ensure his safety.
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That "gun free zone" sign was just a tease.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here
ENTRAPMENT! REEEEEEEEEEEE!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 05:46 PM (aZBZS)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 27, 2023 05:46 PM (4PZHB)
Posted by: Naked Guy In A Small World at November 27, 2023 05:46 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2023 05:47 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (V13WU)
I think he goes off to enjoy his wealth with the gang he was running the scams on. I don't think the girl comes, she's bound to her family as is natural.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:47 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:45 PM (V13WU)
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No, he loses Mercedes in that one.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 27, 2023 05:48 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2023 05:47 PM (oiNtH)
My mom definitely liked Bullwinkle more than us kids did. She made us sit and watch as cover for her.
Us boys liked Jonny Quest.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:48 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:25 PM (MNhXM)
yes. made cheesy soap opera out of it. for example, Albert is not Monte Cristo's son.
Posted by: runner
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The Count is not that sympathetic in the book as Dumas meant so show a man so invested in destroying his enemies that he would stop at almost nothing to do so. The almost is where he reluctantly spared Albert's life so that Albert could rewin the family honor by being a soldier.
My guess is that the original ending was viewed as turning off women. Mercedes pays the price for her unfaithfulness and Albert becomes an exile.
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 05:48 PM (np9nb)
Posted by: The Daleks (They/Them) Please, no stairs at November 27, 2023 05:48 PM (PiwSw)
Are the pervs out there so in love with him that they can't grasp that we find him an uninteresting soiboi?
Posted by: Wally at November 27, 2023 05:48 PM (hqVaF)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 27, 2023 05:49 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 27, 2023 05:49 PM (3cGpq)
It can be tiresome but ignoring it like Paul Ryan has done to focus on "the budget" has worked wonders for finding us in a society that hates white males, you can be arrested for "misgendering," and daily pushes communist brainwashing onto kids.
Posted by: Captain Kirk's Karate Chop at November 27, 2023 05:49 PM (PJaTp)
No worries. Disney will make up the shortfall from sales.of their $12 beers in Downtown Disney.
Posted by: Diogenes
They got a line on some Bud Light at a deep, deep discount ... and a drag hag "entertainer" thrown into the deal for free!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 05:49 PM (aZBZS)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:45 PM (V13WU)
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No, he loses Mercedes in that one.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 27, 2023 05:48 PM (ScR16)
Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was it, you can't bury the past
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:49 PM (eoQWY)
A week or so ago, I caught up with my one female cousin who is about my age, and despite being probably the most left wing person I know, I very much enjoy talking to. She's very geeky herself. So basically Kathleen Kennedy's ideal target audience.
She ranted about how much Disney Star Wars sucks because the stories suck.
Disney is doomed.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at November 27, 2023 05:50 PM (DzSdD)
Posted by: Bud at November 27, 2023 05:50 PM (vcOmj)
Quite everyone gets what they actually deserve in the real ending whig including Edmund Dantes...
he engaged in wrath to the point that all the wealth he had enjoyed was ashen in his mouth and having won a victory that even if needed was unpleasant and unfulfilling he went off to try to heal with the concubine knowing he could never really be part of French society again.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:50 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 27, 2023 05:49 PM (17s+e)
The three hour movie limits the number of showings even if all were packed.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (eoQWY)
If you ask me in 5 min to name 3 Disney movies that came out since Encanto...
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Well, for me, after Old Yeller.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (XeU6L)
The Lion King grossed over 1 billion in 2019? I had to look it up, cuz I knew it was around a long time earlier than that. Released in 1994. I guess they did it again for the next generation?
Posted by: PaleRider
2019 version had real lions ...
... and tigers, and bears
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (aZBZS)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (MNhXM)
Bring back someone like Peri Brown as a companion.
In other news, I rarely watch my local evening news, but Jessica Harthorn is looking pretty good tonight.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Naked Guy In A Small World at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM
Mmmm...Louise Jameson...
And Dr. Who has sucked since Tom Baker left. Fight me!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (aQy7p)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:52 PM (V13WU)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 27, 2023 05:38 PM (e6UQI)
Best part is when the Gremlin says "T.J., I am your father."
And Hooker says "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." Then lights the trail of fuel from the runway to the plane, which goes all splodey.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2023 05:53 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Candidus at November 27, 2023 05:53 PM (Zc7Fe)
Blonde, freethinking, urban German youth tied to the apron strings of Jewish finance. Young people, were is your sense of self? Mickey Mouse is the shabbiest, most miserable ideal ever invented. Mickey Mouse is a recipe for mental enfeeblement sent over with capital from the Young Plan. Healthy instinct should tell every decent girl and honest boy that those filthy, dirt-caked vermin, the greatest carriers of bacteria in the animal kingdom, cannot be made into an ideal animal type. Have we nothing better to do than decorate our garments with filthy animals because Jewish business in America wants profits? Down with Jewish brainwashing of the people! Kick out the vermin! Down with Mickey Mouse, and up with the swastika!
To their credit, the Film-Kurier argues to the contrary: “Mickey Mouse, come on! We will brandish you as a cheerful emblem for all sensible people who oppose impiety, denial, and murder. Pin little Mickey to yourself as a distinguishing mark against the swastika and provocation.”
Posted by: Mega Ultra MAGA Man at November 27, 2023 05:53 PM (83IzV)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:53 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:50 PM (X0I7i)
yes while he had had his life ruined, his revenge had ruined to a great extend the families of those men who were innocent, and the woman he had loved. A lot more than an eye for the eye had had injured.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:53 PM (eoQWY)
Bring back someone like Peri Brown as a companion.
In other news, I rarely watch my local evening news, but Jessica Harthorn is looking pretty good tonight.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM
I will amend my last comment to exclude Peri's rack.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 27, 2023 05:53 PM (aQy7p)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (MNhXM)
some of the 3 musketeers are pretty close. the one with Michael York. the one that is out now - the French version, takes liberties, but gets the ethos. part two is coming out this month I think.
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: That was an episode, right? at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (FHllF)
Posted by: tubal at November 27, 2023 05:44 PM (PCK5/)
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Me too. And it does help. I don't have the faintest familiarity with contemporary pop "culture," and I'm the happier for it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (DNB4D)
TJM can write the script. I tells you, it's a guaranteed smash.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (YRsIm)
She ranted about how much Disney Star Wars sucks because the stories suck.
Disney is doomed.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously
Probably not, but they are in trouble, fer shure.
It has been said there's a lot of ruin in a country, ie, there is a long way you can go before you wreck a
WHOLE country.
There is a lot of ruin in Disney. Who knows what their actual books say, how much money they have made or lost, etc?
They had some great entertainment franchises, ie, movie story lines...that they could have made a lot more money on.
They have chosen.....poorly.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Drive by "
I prefer Crisco.
Posted by: Pete Bootygig at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (vFG9F)
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Chris 'Lardy Lard" Christie has entered the chat.
Posted by: Ciampino - Trans-fats - different gender? at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (eYF7X)
Posted by: Little Timmy at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (TH22E)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:52 PM
That really does sound better in the original German.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (aQy7p)
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:56 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (V13WU)
They hardly ever use muskets tho
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:56 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Maj. Healey"
I got my 15 minutes of fame. How about you?
Posted by: Naked Guy In A Small World at November 27, 2023 05:56 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Captain Obvious
I thought Woody Harrelson was an odd choice for Chester Nimitz in "Midway." But I saw it and liked his work. So l looked them up. Nimitz was 56 in 1941. Harrelson was 58 when he played him.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 27, 2023 05:56 PM (4PZHB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 27, 2023 05:51 PM (XeU6L)
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My family and I watched - and enjoyed - "Hondo" last night. It just served as a reminder of how much movies used to be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (DNB4D)
They are all hard to adapt to modern audiences although perhaps more than they should be.
Take his handling of the Musketeers, how many people understand that is was essentially a thinly veiled dissection of the inherent flaws in the French social structure and a treatise to some degree about the fripperies and foibles of any level of power?
Also if you made an actual series about their arc you would win up with one evil by the end.
Aramis goes flat out evil, there is no argument about it.
Posted by: sven at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (SYTee)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (KAi1n)
They had some great entertainment franchises, ie, movie story lines...that they could have made a lot more money on.
They have chosen.....poorly.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM (vcOmj)
They certainly would love to lie things into making them look good, it would help their message. But even the 'successful' ones vanish once shown like their latest Little Mermaid live action, or lion king live action did.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Drive by "
I prefer Crisco.
Posted by: Pete Bootygig at November 27, 2023 05:17 PM (vFG9F)
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Chris 'Lardy Lard" Christie has entered the chat.
Posted by: Ciampino - Trans-fats - different gender? at November 27, 2023 05:54 PM
There just isn't enough fabric to drape him.
Posted by: Christo] at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (aQy7p)
Posted by: Captain Obvious
I thought Woody Harrelson was an odd choice for Chester Nimitz in "Midway." But I saw it and liked his work. So l looked them up. Nimitz was 56 in 1941. Harrelson was 58 when he played him.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 27, 2023 05:56 PM (4PZHB)
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Phoenix, OTOH, is playing Nap as a young man.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 27, 2023 05:58 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Little Timmy at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (TH22E)
________________
Call me. And remember to vote Democrat.
Posted by: Ed Buck at November 27, 2023 05:59 PM (DNB4D)
From "Church Militant" -conservative RC site
https://tinyurl.com/mukm36jx
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2023 06:00 PM (RSbhh)
Posted by: Little Timmy at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (TH22E)
You could become President.
Posted by: Barack at November 27, 2023 06:00 PM (eYF7X)
________________
Most of the live action at showings of the Little Mermaid were the fights in the audience.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (DNB4D)
They shouldn’t have made movies if they wanted me to read them.
Maureen O’Hara was smoking hot in the ‘39
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
We watched "V for Vendetta" the other night. I would not say it was a particularly great movie, but watching it "TODAY" in 2023, there are parts of the storyline that are positively eery, as it was made (released) in 2006.
I remember it being somewhat "panned" when it was released, but now....I dunno.
The fake/made - up plague that ushered in a fascist government in Britain?..........Nah!......
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (AhZSY)
Posted by: Little Timmy at November 27, 2023 05:55 PM (TH22E)
Sexist.
Posted by: Auspex at November 27, 2023 06:02 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Maj. Healey"
I got my 15 minutes of fame. How about you?
Posted by: Naked Guy In A Small World
The Simpson's parady with tripping Lisa was better
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 27, 2023 06:02 PM (cOq4q)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
He just lost a butt load of State Farm ad $$. Good.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 27, 2023 06:03 PM (eYF7X)
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I tried to read one of a famous Russian author's books, but gave up after reading 200 page of Russian genealogy.
I did learn, however, that there are a buttload of Russians, many of whom are related to each other.
The author was obviously paid by the word, and did not have an editor.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 06:03 PM (DNB4D)
Posted by: Ciampino - Grammar at November 27, 2023 06:03 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Jamaica at November 27, 2023 06:04 PM (Eeb9P)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (AhZSY)
That’s pretty funny in all aspects.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 06:04 PM (MNhXM)
First Colbert and now Fallon?
Cut your losses, networks! Fill those time slots with ... nothing.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 06:04 PM (aZBZS)
(Obligatory Seinfeld ref.)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 27, 2023 04:52 PM (N3zMI)
"Meer!"
Posted by: the bubble-boy at November 27, 2023 06:05 PM (DTX3h)
“That was wrong that clerk to shoot my brother. Yes, he’s robbing them, oh well”
https://tinyurl.com/yc6b6cnk
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 27, 2023 06:05 PM (lwOKI)
I remember it being somewhat "panned" when it was released, but now....I dunno.
The fake/made - up plague that ushered in a fascist government in Britain?..........Nah!......
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (vcOmj)
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The "fascist" government they were aiming at? That of Margaret Thatcher.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 06:05 PM (DNB4D)
Indeed, I hear it's pretty simple nowadays.
Posted by: PG at November 27, 2023 06:05 PM (gQbO4)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 06:03 PM (DNB4D)
Most of the literature we have from those periods were serialized and thus allowed to expand into long works since they were digested in smaller bits separated by gaps.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 06:06 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Orson at November 27, 2023 06:06 PM (dIske)
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (lwOKI)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 06:03 PM (DNB4D)
Most of the literature we have from those periods were serialized and thus allowed to expand into long works since they were digested in smaller bits separated by gaps.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 06:06 PM (eoQWY)
Dickens and Melville enter tha conversation.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Archer at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (gmo/4)
Disney films require $200 million dollar budgets like I require this delicious Crown Royal pecan pie. I'm learning that the reason the budgets are so high is because the executives (Iger, Bergman, Kennedy, Feige) do not, for whatever reason, insist upon or encourage any sort of proper pre-production of a film.
In other words, no previsualizations.
So what an intelligent filmmaker does is previz their films, doing extensive storyboarding and animatics. Basically making the movie before making the movie. This allows filmmakers to figure out what works and what doesn't and lets them make the best movie possible while saving money. Apparently Disney *isn't* doing this. Instead they shoot the movie, test screen for audiences and do extensive (and expensive) reshoots based on those early reactions. This is why the movies are three times as expensive and look amateurish. Compare to The Creator which had a budget of $80 million and looked way better than Disney's recent films. They're just flushing money down the shitter when they don't have to.
Iger and his butt sniffing toadies need to go. Shareholders need to sue their pants off.
Posted by: Robert at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (1Yy3c)
Posted by: Orson at November 27, 2023 06:06 PM (dIske)
Tigga, please!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (T/Lqj)
If they'd really led with the Wishing Star stuff and leaned hard into it while hiding all the PC garbage, they might have fooled me and I might have taken a chance on this movie, like I did with (ugh) "Barbie."
So, great job, Disney marketing.
Posted by: Ex-liberal at November 27, 2023 06:08 PM (XdH1u)
George McDonald Fraser wrote the screenplay for the 70's Three Musketeers and it was brilliant.
Plus, Raquel Welsh and Faye Dunaway.
I'll sit through the woke messages if there's that quality of cleavage involved.
Posted by: Auspex at November 27, 2023 06:08 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Orson at November 27, 2023 06:06 PM (dIske)
tiggah please
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 27, 2023 06:08 PM (lwOKI)
NEW: White House holiday decor invites visitors to embrace "their inner child"
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM
As long as they aren't embracing anyone else's child...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 27, 2023 06:08 PM (aQy7p)
- put a black guy in it
- make him gay
- make it lame
Sounds eerily familiar.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 27, 2023 06:09 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 27, 2023 06:09 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 27, 2023 06:09 PM (lwOKI)
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (lwOKI)
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Hello, Inner Child. Meet the Inner Babysitter.
Posted by: Susan Sto Helit at November 27, 2023 06:09 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (vcOmj)
....
can't happen
Posted by: 12 monkeys at November 27, 2023 06:10 PM (z/ifB)
Disney films require $200 million dollar budgets like I require this delicious Crown Royal pecan pie. I'm learning that the reason the budgets are so high is because the executives (Iger, Bergman, Kennedy, Feige) do not, for whatever reason, insist upon or encourage any sort of proper pre-production of a film.
Posted by: Robert at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (1Yy3c)
I've been suspecting that a large part of the rot in movies is that the people who knew the mechanics of making them have retired and died and the new college educated replacements weren't paying attention or never met these people.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 27, 2023 06:11 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 27, 2023 06:01 PM (vcOmj)
"Children of Men" had a totalitarian govt of some stripe, right wing fascists of some sort I'm sure. Some good fascists army vs. immigrant shootout scenes.
Posted by: Javems at November 27, 2023 06:11 PM (8I4hW)
Nood - quick hits lite
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 06:11 PM (aZBZS)
Iger's killing the Mouse, and Tennant cannot save The Doctor.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 27, 2023 06:13 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at November 27, 2023 04:50 PM (srAlb)
Perfect.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 27, 2023 06:14 PM (Rbu5d)
Cut your losses, networks! Fill those time slots with ... nothing.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 27, 2023 06:04 PM (aZBZS)
__________________
Bring back test patterns! And the National Anthem with the Flag showing in the background!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2023 06:17 PM (DNB4D)
Posted by: the "TV People" at November 27, 2023 06:19 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Jake Speed at November 27, 2023 04:59 PM (Vu1jV)
Who would've ever think to do THAT? /s
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 27, 2023 06:23 PM (Rbu5d)
Dickens and Melville enter tha conversation.
Posted by: Drive by at November 27, 2023 06:07 PM (MNhXM)
322 If you want an extremely historically accurate Napoleon movie watch Waterloo. They'll never be able to make such a movie again without bullshit CGI. Over 16,000 extras, period correct uniforms, and formations, I forget how many horses. Rod Steiger as Napoleon.
Posted by: Archer
Brian Denehy as Moby Dick.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 27, 2023 06:26 PM (3CCua)
Let that sink in - for their 100-year movie anniversary, a studio that made their bones animating movies, puts out a movie with shitty animation.
Thing is, all the adult, older, highly experienced, mostly white males have left the company. In the place are diverse, less experienced hacky fakers.
Posted by: Fire! Bad! at November 27, 2023 06:34 PM (8E/8X)
Posted by: sven
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Not really sure that Dumas agreed with the idea everyone got what they deserved. Instead, we see the Count who viewed his actions as a substitute for the Lord's vengeance become essentially someone without a home and whether or not the love of his rescued slave redeems him as a person; Edmond Dantes is essentially dead as a person so that the Count could live.
Posted by: whig at November 27, 2023 06:35 PM (np9nb)
Posted by: Montec at November 27, 2023 05:29 PM (YofvK)
Little Mermaid LA: "She looks like MEEEEEE!"
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 27, 2023 06:44 PM (Rbu5d)
They're using billions of other people's dollars to accomplish their own aims and goals.
For a certain kind of degenerate, it's basically a victory condition.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 27, 2023 07:03 PM (9UlRk)
https://youtu.be/Fj1Ji0hH1Vo?si=IGyl3rUkvk2ddDir
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