The Morning Rant: The Case Against Netanyahu

Natanyahu has led a charmed political life...skirting the admittedly byzantine Israeli laws and political rules seemingly designed to catch him in the act. And he certainly presents himself as a statesman, dressing and speaking the part. His command of English is noteworthy, and he seems to be a man of the West, rather than the Middle East.

But "seems" is the important word. Netanyahu also "seems" to be a tough and implacable foe of those who would destroy Israel, but his political machinations -- always in pursuit of power -- have overwhelmed his primary responsibility: the defense of the state of Israel from all foes, foreign and domestic.

His obsessive desire to please...the world, its media and its heads of state...has come at the expense of many Israeli lives. Time and again, Israel carefully titrated its response to military and political challenges to minimize the opprobrium that came anyway. The result was a militarized southern Lebanon (Hezbollah), a militarized West Bank (Palestinian Authority), and a militarized Gaza (Hamas).

And possibly even worse, a military response to Iranian nuclear programs was put off again and again, all at the behest of Western powers. Whether that decision was correct is a valid question, but it was answered by Netanyahu's desire to remain in the good graces of America and to a lesser extent Britain, France and Germany, and not by the more important calculation of what is best for Israel.

And here he does what he does best...sacrificing the future security of the state of Israel for short term political expediency that is fleeting at best.

Liberman: Netanyahu is granting immunity to Hamas leaders

Journalist Ben Caspit reports that over the course of the last few years, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was presented with six potential operations for the assassination of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.
The operations were presented by the last three directors of the ISA - Yoram Cohen, Nadav Argaman, and Ronen Bar. According to the report, each of the six was not merely a theory, but a fully-prepared operation ready to be launched, had Netanyahu approved any of them - which he did not.

What possible benefit to Israel came out of Netanyahu's refusal to act against a man and an organization that has one aim...the destruction of Jews, Judaism and the state of Israel? Was a couple of trade missions and a few million dollars in foreign investment (maybe) worth allowing the continued existence of Hamas and its leaders?

Now we have information that Netanyahu is still playing his games, making deals with Qatar to protect the man who is responsible for the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust.

The Jerusalem Post reports that:

French journalist Georges Malbrunot of "Le Figaro" reported from his sources that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to Qatar that Israel would not act against the leaders of Hamas living in Qatar.

If this is true, it is an intolerable insult to the memories of the 1,400 Israelis who were butchered by Hamas on October 7th, and the hundreds who have been killed during Netanyahu's tenure as Prime Minister.

For the foreseeable future, there should be one foreign policy in Israel; hunt down the perpetrators of the October 7th Pogrom and kill them. In Qatar, Khan Yunis, Paris, Berlin, Johannesburg, or a mud hut in Mali.

Anything else will send an unequivocal message to the foes of Israel that there is some level of terrorism and murder and destruction that is acceptable to the Israeli political elite.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 First!

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:00 AM (CIS44)

2 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2023 11:00 AM (1Yy3c)

3 and nooded

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:00 AM (CIS44)

4 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 28, 2023 11:00 AM (S4Tgw)

5 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 28, 2023 11:00 AM (aQy7p)

6 I fear he is, at heart, a Globalist. maybe he only relatively recently has become one.

but what he did to his country with mandating those shots? you have to wonder about him.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (AcWfM)

7 On Monday’s broadcast of CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” co-host Becky Quick stated that while the U.S. has sanctions on Iran, the Biden administration has “acknowledged that they’re going to continue to allow” Iranian oil to be sold elsewhere because they don’t want oil prices to go up.

CNBC Contributor and Global Head of Commodity Strategy for RBC Capital Markets Helima Croft said, “Iranian exports have grown this year. They have grown significantly. So, is the Biden administration going to come under increasing pressure to tighten the Iran sanctions? Now, Amos Hochstein was out basically saying that we’re going to have tougher enforcement, but what are those Iran numbers going to actually look like? That’s a very important wild card, I think, for next year, in terms of market balances.”

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (RHGPo)

8 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (T4tVD)

9 Bibi is deep state?

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (gmo/4)

10 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

11 Every word, CBD.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 28, 2023 11:02 AM (S4Tgw)

12 Jewish Family Threatened at Orly Airport: A Harrowing Tale of Rising Antisemitism - BNN Breaking
An Israeli family faced antisemitic abuse and death threats by a taxi driver at Orly Airport, Paris, reflecting a reported increase in such incidents since the Gaza conflict.
bnn.network/breaking-news/cr…

Simon Wiesenthal Center @simonwiesenthal 18h
Alarming incident at Orly Airport, Paris: A taxi driver verbally assaulted a Jewish family from Israel shouting “If I had taken you, I would have slit the throat of you, your wife, and your children” in French and Arabic.

SWC demands that he be prosecuted for verbal terrorism to the full extent of the law.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 28, 2023 11:02 AM (krqg6)

13 Alternative?

I do not know Israel's political situation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:02 AM (zZu0s)

14 Bibi is deep state?

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (gmo/4)

He did call Biden to congratulate him after Fox called Arizona.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

15 Soros' Open Society Foundations Cut $250k Check to Group Accused of Hamas Ties

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But it's antisemitic to criticize Soros.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 28, 2023 11:02 AM (FVME7)

16 Time and again, Israel carefully titrated its response to military and political challenges to minimize the opprobrium that came anyway.

Heheh. You said 'tit.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

17 Bibi is deep state?

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (gmo/4)

Looks like that from the peanut gallery.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 28, 2023 11:04 AM (sUTkI)

18 Bibi will do the bare minimum and so the problem will remain.

And in 10 years or so there were be another war. And so it will go until Israel decides to grow up or...the Muslims finally win and kill them all.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2023 11:04 AM (XqcwY)

19 Why even fight a war against Hamas then? Fuckers are going win the battles but lose the war.

They'll never learn.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:04 AM (gmo/4)

20 And here he does what he does best...sacrificing the future security of the state of Israel for short term political expediency that is fleeting at best.

If I had to guess I'd say that Netanyahu is more a globalist than a nationalist - like 99.9999% of all the politicians on the planet and that he uses Israeli nationalism as a means to amass power within the globalist hierarchy as opposed to using it to benefit actual Israeli citizens.

While I am unfamiliar with the political realities on the ground in Israel, I very much doubt that anyone better would be permitted to win.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:05 AM (GYIa4)

21 "For the foreseeable future, there should be one foreign policy in Israel; hunt down the perpetrators of the October 7th Pogrom and kill them. In Qatar, Khan Yunis, Paris, Berlin, Johannesburg, or a mud hut in Mali."

This. Nothing but this. Down to last living relative...this.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 11:05 AM (VwHCD)

22 Heheh. You said 'tit.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

Oh, very "tinny" word!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 28, 2023 11:05 AM (N3zMI)

23 If this is true, it is an intolerable insult

Indeed. To prove it false, all Netanyahu has to do is take out a Hamass head.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

24 prosecuted for verbal terrorism

Now do Yoko.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 28, 2023 11:05 AM (sIcnm)

25 I am also deeply amused at how opposed the FNM/Deep State/Uniparty are opposed to assassination as a political strategy.

No it should be used recklessly but if the choice is a police action that is a war in all but name or assassinating an enemy leader why the hell is the former "moral" and the later not.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (XqcwY)

26 For the foreseeable future, there should be one foreign policy in Israel; hunt down the perpetrators of the October 7th Pogrom and kill them. In Qatar, Khan Yunis, Paris, Berlin, Johannesburg, or a mud hut in Mali.

Anything else will send an unequivocal message to the foes of Israel that there is some level of terrorism and murder and destruction that is acceptable to the Israeli political elite.[/i

Switch "Israel" to "United States" and "October 7th" to "9/11" and you have the repeating nickelfuckery of the Bush administration.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (Q0kLU)

27 He's a member of the Military Industrial Complex.

Israel defeats it's enemy neighbors, no war. No war, no money.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

28 Kill them all and let Baal sort tem out

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (ZV+pB)

29 >>French journalist Georges Malbrunot of "Le Figaro" reported from his sources that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to Qatar that Israel would not act against the leaders of Hamas living in Qatar.

*Remembers how Trump killed Solemani and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi*

*Wishes that Netanyahu was parsing his statement so that it is technically US special forces working w/Israel to take out the Hamas leaders*

Oh well, guess they'll be safe in Qatar, just like the Al Qeda and Taliban terrorist leaders Obama released to Qatar.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (izj35)

30 I think Netanyahu knows he has no allies with ~~Obama[s/] Biden in office~~

Posted by: DanMan at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (8uzBS)

31 Reading RISE AND KILL FIRST, He might be gun shy after the MOSSAD was made and every agent was tracked in the UAE, I think, when Killed a guy. They even used unencrypted phones and they recorded the calls.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (dKiJG)

32 Willowed...but always relevant:

'Tis the season to be jolly.

White House Gets Rid of Biden Grandkid Stockings After Acknowledging Hunter Love Child
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 28, 2023 10:52 AM (FVME7)

Joe Biden's Grandchild's a bastard
Conceived while Hunter was plastered
Joe proved a goon
And like a baboon
Showed his ass, that was all shit besplattered.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 11:06 AM (QzZeQ)

33 D'OH!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 28, 2023 11:07 AM (Q0kLU)

34 Been reading a lot on Israel and Hamas, seems Leftists and Hamas want to get rid of Netanyahu

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2023 11:08 AM (/MbBE)

35 So Bibi is George Bush with a yamulke.

Wonderful.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 28, 2023 11:08 AM (sUTkI)

36 Journalist Ben Caspit reports that over the course of the last few years, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was presented with six potential operations for the assassination of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

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* Bubba Clinton and Osama bin Laden have entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 11:09 AM (oVv4i)

37 Heheh. You said 'tit.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

Oh, very "tinny" word!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 28, 2023 11:05 AM (N3zMI)

There is nothing at all tinny about the word tit. Gorn.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:09 AM (GYIa4)

38 Bibi should get the Golda Meir treatment - win the war, and then boot him out for failing to keep Israel safe on October 7th.

(This is what happened to Golda Meir after the '73 War.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 28, 2023 11:10 AM (YAtuc)

39 Not defending Netanyahu any way,shape or from but I have seen that the hamassholes would not be killed on Qatari soil.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2023 11:10 AM (hIgyP)

40 >>White House Gets Rid of Biden Grandkid Stockings After Acknowledging Hunter Love Child

It is both despicable on Biden's part *and* a great benefit for the kid. She is better off not being within reach of that pedo creep.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2023 11:10 AM (izj35)

41 Bibi is a target of the Junta. I would not be surprised to discover that Kalorama orchestrated the Hamas attack just to be able to give Iran $10B. Sparky does shit like this. He loves to throw bombs.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:11 AM (ntk8v)

42 Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar

Perfect name.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2023 11:11 AM (uSHSS)

43 Not defending Netanyahu any way,shape or from but I have seen that the hamassholes would not be killed on Qatari soil.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2023 11:10 AM (hIgyP)

Which would be fine if they were "rescued" and then dropped off, safe and sound, about 50 miles due east of Doha but if the promise is that Israel would take no action against them... that's just stupid.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:13 AM (GYIa4)

44 Imagine the wailing from the academic conglomerate if anyone does anything to their sugar daddy Qatar.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 28, 2023 11:14 AM (z/ifB)

45 Journalist Ben Caspit reports that over the course of the last few years, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was presented with six potential operations for the assassination of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

The problem is, political assassinations don't accomplish much (as opposed to assassinating people with specific technical skills).

Hassan Nasrallah runs Hezbollah because his predecessor was killed by the Israelis.

Think that he is an improvement?

The reason for killing Hamas' leadership now is because of October 7th - sending a message that the mass murder of Jews will result in the death of everyone involved in planning and executing that mass murder.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 28, 2023 11:14 AM (YAtuc)

46 >>I would not be surprised to discover that Kalorama orchestrated the Hamas attack just to be able to give Iran $10B. Sparky does shit like this. He loves to throw bombs.

Yup. IIRC, he revealed the existence and location of a secret base in Israel, revealed that they developed the stuxnet virus, pushed an Iran deal that committed the US to protect Iran from attack (i.e. Israel), and never missed an opportunity to snub Bibi.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (izj35)

47 Anything else will send an unequivocal message to the foes of Israel that there is some level of terrorism and murder and destruction that is acceptable to the Israeli political elite.
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But that *is* the message, CBD. There is "some level." That level isn't explicitly defined anywhere that I am aware of, but it very much exists.

October 7th was in excess of "some level." The occasional suicide bombing or rocket launch is not. Some amount of retribution is consistent with "some level," some is not.

But I think that Netanyahu and various others around the world fail to understand one critical point: total war occurs based only on the desires of a single party. If one belligerent is committed to total war or genocide, then the conflict *will* be total war or genocide even if the other belligerent(s) do not agree. Agreement is not necessary. No belligerent can succeed if it engages in a non-total conflict against a belligerent engaging in a total conflict.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (d04cU)

48 I saw All Shit Besplattered open for The Fabulous Thunderbirds at Farm Aid in '86.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (XyJbh)

49 Not a Netanyahu fan once he congratulated Biden while the election was being disputed and before most of our other Allies. That said there are a lot of things I liked that he did and he had the right political enemies. I think the time to criticize him is after the war is done unless the goal is to replace him now.

Posted by: Drive by at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (MNhXM)

50 I don't know wether these reports are accurate or not but given the vast number of lies the media has told about everything related to the Middle East and their obvious hatred of Israel and support of terrorists I think I'll take a wait and see approach.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (ZLI7S)

51 Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 11:01 AM (RHGPo)

I really love it when you threadjack in the first 10 comments.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:16 AM (3Gtis)

52 CBD, I don't disagree with your post, but what choice did Bibi have?

He's surrounded by dirty, putrescent saboteurs and traitors and terrorists in his own government. He has people to answer to, people he needs to keep on his side, uneasy coalitions he needs to hold together. He can't do whatever he wants. He's not a king or dictator.

He was always gonna cave, it was just a matter of when. Personally, I think he kept the pressure on Hamas longer than I expected.

The very sad fact is that Israel -- and Israelis -- have come to accept that they coexist with barbaric 13th Century savages. Israelis have accepted the occasional raping of their daughters and pillaging of their civilization as the price of trying to accommodate foreign -- and domestic -- Jew-haters.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

53 And possibly even worse, a military response to Iranian nuclear programs was put off again and again, all at the behest of Western powers. Whether that decision was correct is a valid question, but it was answered by Netanyahu's desire to remain in the good graces of America and to a lesser extent Britain, France and Germany, and not by the more important calculation of what is best for Israel.

I'm not willing to dismiss Netanyahu so quickly. He's faced with almost impossible decisions, and IMHO is necessarily threading the needle as to what he can do vs. what will cost him more than he gains in the future. It's easy to dismiss him for trying to stay in our good graces, but without us, his job would be that much harder.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:17 AM (I/Qkd)

54 so, what's the solution ? who else is out there ? Yossi Cohen ?

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2023 11:17 AM (V13WU)

55 many want to replace him, and some did, but when they got the office , fail miserably

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2023 11:18 AM (V13WU)

56 It's time for the American people to teach Netanyahu that we aren't pawns for him to move around!

#Scoop (Israel's
@kann_news
#Netanyahu to fellow Likud members:
▪️ "I'm the only one who'll prevent a Palest state in Gaza, Judea and Samaria
▪️ "I'm the only one who can withstand U.S. pressure;
▪️ "I know Biden for 40 years.
▪️ "I know how to manage American public opinion."

He's daring Biden to oppose him. Time for a Dark Brandon smack down.

If he has to tell his fellow Likud members that, he is in trouble.

The US is getting played. It’s very bad for national security.

On the contrary, Biden is handling this very well. Netanyahu is a thug making empty threats at this point.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 28, 2023 11:19 AM (JCZqz)

57 White House Gets Rid of Biden Grandkid Stockings After Acknowledging Hunter Love Child

I guarantee Jill and Shitspants have stockings up for each one except Navy in the private residence section of the White House.

The entire Biden family is trash.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:19 AM (gmo/4)

58 "French journalist Georges Malbrunot of "Le Figaro" reported from his sources that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to Qatar that Israel would not act against the leaders of Hamas living in Qatar."

From other similar reports, the meaning I have understood from this statement is "So long as they remain inside Qatar." If he were promising not to target them anywhere I would agree it would be a great betrayal, but I do not believe that is what the Qataris asked for. Rather, the Qataris are demanding that the fighting not take place inside their own country; Spain laid down much the same terms to both the Allies and the Germans during WW2, when figures from both sides were allowed into Spain with the provision that they play nice while they were there. (And I believe Switzerland asked the same)
I do not mean to defend every decision Netanyahu has made, but if this was the agreement, then I think this specific decision is defensible. It is likely more valuable for Israel to keep these Hamas leaders in Qatar under physical and electronic surveillance, in order to learn who they are meeting and who they are talking to, than it is to kill them at this point.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:19 AM (i9ffA)

59 But that *is* the message, CBD. There is "some level." That level isn't explicitly defined anywhere that I am aware of, but it very much exists.

October 7th was in excess of "some level." The occasional suicide bombing or rocket launch is not. Some amount of retribution is consistent with "some level," some is not.

But I think that Netanyahu and various others around the world fail to understand one critical point: total war occurs based only on the desires of a single party. If one belligerent is committed to total war or genocide, then the conflict *will* be total war or genocide even if the other belligerent(s) do not agree. Agreement is not necessary. No belligerent can succeed if it engages in a non-total conflict against a belligerent engaging in a total conflict.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (d04cU)

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See also JJ's link (or pull quote) this morning of Daniel Greenfield's essay entitled "Don’t Accept Terrorism as the New Normal."

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 11:19 AM (XyJbh)

60 >>I don't know whether these reports are accurate or not but given the vast number of lies the media has told about everything related to the Middle East and their obvious hatred of Israel and support of terrorists I think I'll take a wait and see approach.

Excellent point/response to this news.

I know practically nothing about Israel's politics, but I am so conditioned to recognize capitulation and self-defeat from the way GOP always responds to the Left's aggression it was easy to accept that news.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2023 11:19 AM (izj35)

61 The reason for killing Hamas' leadership now is because of October 7th - sending a message that the mass murder of Jews will result in the death of everyone involved in planning and executing that mass murder.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at Nov

*Unless they live in Qatar

always gotta read the fine print

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (CIS44)

62 The question is what electable Israeli figure would have done better than Netanyahu? I have no vested interest in him or his success. But without a viable alternative, he's what Israel has. He's kinda like Trump in that respect. As near as I can tell from afar, Israeli is every bit as screwball in its politics as the West. A lot of goofballs there have seemingly believed they could have peace with inveterate Jew-haters for a very long time now.. I doubt we'll see the emergence of a hardline version of Israel in the aftermath of this, even if it hunts down a lot of Hamas in the long term.

Posted by: I could be wrong at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (pjs7m)

63 39 Not defending Netanyahu any way,shape or from but I have seen that the hamassholes would not be killed on Qatari soil.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2023 11:10 AM (hIgyP)

Kidnap, kill in Gaza.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

64 Total victory over Hamas seems like a necessary pre-condition to establishing civilization in Gaza,, and protecting Israeli and western lives, and the same is true for ending Iran's nuclear program.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (TqUyY)

65 Titrated was used in this post.

"Time and again, Israel carefully titrated its response"

I read the content and found a valuable word.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (bqazj)

66 ...given the vast number of lies the media has told about everything ~~related to the Middle East and their obvious hatred of Israel and support of terrorists~~ I think I'll take a wait and see approach.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (ZLI7S)

Edited for brevity while maintaining accuracy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (GYIa4)

67 Think that he is an improvement?

The reason for killing Hamas' leadership now is because of October 7th - sending a message that the mass murder of Jews will result in the death of everyone involved in planning and executing that mass murder.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 28, 2023 11:14 AM (YAtuc)

These are small organizations without the redundancy of a large military structure. Killing the head will cause problems far in excess of the temporary loss of control.

Killing the top 10 will make the others think twice before they rise to the top.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:21 AM (3Gtis)

68 Don't go wobbly, Bibi.

- Margret Thacher's ghost

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:22 AM (gmo/4)

69 Good morning CBD. Being the leader of Israel has to be like juggling hand grenades. The leftist want a leftist takeover, the hardcore would drive the Arabs out of West Bank and the ultra Orthodox don't care about anything but being ultra Orthodox. Even with this attack on 10/7 the entire nation still has huge political divisions

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2023 11:22 AM (AhZSY)

70 It's easy to dismiss him for trying to stay in our good graces, but without us, his job would be that much harder.
Posted by: Archimedes

I'd like to see him go hard and dare the US to turn its back. More masks would fall here at home, and that would hopefully (likely?) spur the remaining good elements to stand up against the evil and antisemitism growing at home. Could ultimately result in stronger support for Israel. But maybe this is too optimistic.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at November 28, 2023 11:22 AM (wlwAa)

71 >>Killing the top 10 will make the others think twice before they rise to the top.

*nods almost imperceptively*

Posted by: John Wick at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (izj35)

72 Kidnap, kill in Gaza.

Eichmann their ass.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (sIcnm)

73 Best to publicly say you abide by stupid international expectations, won't kill Hamas leaders in Qatar, etc.

Then have Mossad kill them anyway, and claim it wasn't you.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (JCZqz)

74 American lefties have hated Netanyahu ever since Obama hated him.

He's always been controversial in Israel, the current unified wartime government notwithstanding. I bet he retires once the Hamas war is over.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (TqUyY)

75 Don't go wobbly, Bibi.

- Margret Thacher's ghost

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:22 AM (gmo/4)
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Netanyahu went there over 2 decades ago.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (S4Tgw)

76 56 no, the last thing Biden handled well (insert joke).

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (f+lVG)

77 Excellent point/response to this news.

I know practically nothing about Israel's politics, but I am so conditioned to recognize capitulation and self-defeat from the way GOP always responds to the Left's aggression it was easy to accept that news.

Agree. It's easy to fulminate and castigate; it's harder to make the decisions that have real world consequences, especially when the media hates you and your very existence.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (I/Qkd)

78 Iamshockedatthe blatantantisemitism inyourcriticizmsof IsraelandNetanyahu. Howdareyousir.

Posted by: Ben Shapiro at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (DZrNt)

79 The US is getting played. It’s very bad for national security.
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Manhattan loves ghetto wars. Makes grifting the taxpayer all the easier. Nuke Manhattan and things would get better really fast.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (ntk8v)

80 I'd like to see him go hard and dare the US to turn its back. More masks would fall here at home, and that would hopefully (likely?) spur the remaining good elements to stand up against the evil and antisemitism growing at home. Could ultimately result in stronger support for Israel. But maybe this is too optimistic.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and

good point, but cant help but wonder...shouldnt you be writing somone up or something right now?

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (CIS44)

81 Yup. Don't agree with not going after those fuckers in Qatar.

Big mistake.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (ufFY8)

82 The reason for killing Hamas' leadership now is because of October 7th - sending a message that the mass murder of Jews will result in the death of everyone involved in planning and executing that mass murder.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 28, 2023 11:14 AM (YAtuc)

The ancient world was filled with knuckle dragging primitives, but they were masters at doing one thing, and thats sending a message. You go beyond the "everyone involved in planning and executing" and you go for the relatives, anybody that would avenge them, anybody that would succeed them, and anybody that would complain. You wipe it..the fuck...out.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (VwHCD)

83 76 56 no, the last thing Biden handled well (insert joke).
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His daughter's shower protocol?

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (ntk8v)

84 74, the chances the replacement will be to his right?

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:25 AM (f+lVG)

85 Nearly all the world’s governments and vast numbers of its people are convinced that addressing human-induced climate change is essential if healthy societies are to survive. The two solutions most often proposed go by various names but are widely known as “green growth” and “degrowth”. For example, Cuba, with about an eighth of the GDP per capita, has similar life expectancy and literacy rates to the United States.

I think I’d rather stick with GDP as a measure of prosperity and success. Many Cubans obviously feel the same, given how many of them have voted with their feet and relocated to the high carbon economy of the United States.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 11:25 AM (RHGPo)

86 In my uneducated opinion any race identified as 'white' is forbidden from carrying out any sort of operation that involves killing members of a race identified as 'non-white.'

Those definitions are fluid, depending on the situation.

As we've seen.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (Q4IgG)

87 Killing the top 10 will make the others think twice before they rise to the top.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Nu-uh! We're fully committed, and look forward to dying in glorious jihad against the Zionist enemy so we can claim our eternal reward in paradise!!! We just, uh, are so selfless, we want others to have the opportunity first, which is why we send them on the dangerous suicide attacks instead of going ourselves. No, no...it's not Hamas virtue signaling...

Posted by: Hamas Leadership Bluster and Cope at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (JCZqz)

88 Howdareyousir.

Posted by: Ben Shapiro at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (DZrNt)

Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (3Gtis)

89 For example, Cuba, with about an eighth of the GDP per capita, has similar life expectancy and literacy rates to the United States.

Based on whose numbers? Cuba's? Pardon me if I'm skeptical.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (I/Qkd)

90 Bibi likes his political position more than doing the right thing now when he has to power to utterly destroy the enemy.

Sad.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2023 11:28 AM (gmo/4)

91 I'm some weird way, about the kindest thing America could do for Israel would be to cut military aid off.

The aid serves as velvet handcuffs that unnecessarily bind Israel's hands out of deference to their donor class.

It doesn't mean that Israel can't enjoy friendly relationships with the west in many fashions, but where they deviate from the suicidal desires of a self-destructive, liberal western regime, they are free to act in their own self-interests without concerning themselves with the insane demands of foreign countries.

Likewise, in reverse, America is free to act in its own self-interests, even if those self-interests at times may deviate from Israel's.

The same principles apply to the NATO alliances, as well. Trump fully understood that NATO was less a military alliance and more an agreement for the United States to defend Europe. This left America with the bill and Europe with a false sense of security with an undermanned, under-equipped cuck-state, subservient to American whimsy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 28, 2023 11:28 AM (Zqeqr)

92 Gads, this is so depressing. I’ve lost a huge amount of respect for Netanyahu.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:29 AM (JrojV)

93 But I think that Netanyahu and various others around the world fail to understand one critical point: total war occurs based only on the desires of a single party. If one belligerent is committed to total war or genocide, then the conflict *will* be total war or genocide even if the other belligerent(s) do not agree. Agreement is not necessary. No belligerent can succeed if it engages in a non-total conflict against a belligerent engaging in a total conflict.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:15 AM (d04cU)
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total war can't succeed unless the belligerent totally controls its sources of resupply. Israel depends on America. And, American political leaders can't stomach total war. They always want to make a deal. Hence, the present situation.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:29 AM (E2t0h)

94 I know practically nothing about Israel's politics, but I am so conditioned to recognize capitulation and self-defeat from the way GOP always responds to the Left's aggression it was easy to accept that news.

I was going to say something similar. Many people seem to have one template for interpreting all events and leaders.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:29 AM (I/Qkd)

95 91 I'm some weird way, about the kindest thing America could do for Israel would be to cut military aid off.

The aid serves as velvet handcuffs that unnecessarily bind Israel's hands out of deference to their donor class.
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Yep. If you want to be a nation, be a nation. If you want to be a satrap then continue being a satrap.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:29 AM (ntk8v)

96 The very sad fact is that Israel -- and Israelis -- have come to accept that they coexist with barbaric 13th Century savages. Israelis have accepted the occasional raping of their daughters and pillaging of their civilization as the price of trying to accommodate foreign -- and domestic -- Jew-haters.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

I have been reading as many Israeli sources as I can, large and small, and I get an almost universal sense that there is a huge change that took place in almost everyone there on Oct 7. They are no longer willing to live peaceably with these barbarians, and will not do it anymore.
To us on the other side of the ocean, this ceasefire would seem like a contradiction; but not to them. Remember *all* political parties in Israel (save one who's gone quiet) now are praising the efforts to get back as many hostages as possible; but they also appear to universally agree that as soon as there are no more hostages being released, All Hell (literally) is going to be unleashed.

This is just halftime, not the end by a long shot. Hamas would be wise to surrender now while they still can; but of course they won't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)

97 It doesn't mean that Israel can't enjoy friendly relationships with the west in many fashions, but where they deviate from the suicidal desires of a self-destructive, liberal western regime, they are free to act in their own self-interests without concerning themselves with the insane demands of foreign countries.

And if they'd done that during the '73 war, Israel would not now exist. Our resupply and logistics made it possible for them to survive. Do you think Netanyahu doesn't know that?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (I/Qkd)

98
The ancient world was filled with knuckle dragging primitives, but they were masters at doing one thing, and thats sending a message. You go beyond the "everyone involved in planning and executing" and you go for the relatives, anybody that would avenge them, anybody that would succeed them, and anybody that would complain. You wipe it..the fuck...out.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (VwHCD)

'The Romans make a desert and call it a peace.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (zZu0s)

99 89 For example, Cuba, with about an eighth of the GDP per capita, has similar life expectancy and literacy rates to the United States.

Based on whose numbers? Cuba's? Pardon me if I'm skeptical.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (I/Qkd)

Michael Moore needs to give up all his wealth, renounce his US citizenship, and move to Cuba and experience what commie life for the little guy (pun intended) is really like.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

100 I’ve lost a huge amount of respect for Netanyahu.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:29 AM (JrojV)

Full disclosure: I was a huge supporter and fan of Netanyahu for many years. But commenter (and friend) Nevergiveup helped me open my eyes. It took awhile because I wasn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (3Gtis)

101 This is just halftime, not the end by a long shot. Hamas would be wise to surrender now while they still can; but of course they won't.

Fine by me. Obliteration it is!

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (I/Qkd)

102 Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM

Yea, it's hard to be on his side sometimes. But on this issue he's right. I love Candace Owens but she needs to STFU on this issue. There's no prevocation of sides. I stand with Israel. Because it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (bqazj)

103 And, American political leaders can't stomach total war.
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Oh, they can. See War of Northern Aggression, WWI and II and Korea. Even Vietnam was total war. Not to mention the Indian Wars of the 1870s. What has killed America is endless immigration. Taking in people who want only free shit is how you kill a nation.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (ntk8v)

104 Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (3Gtis)

I pay very little attention to Shapiro so I may be unfair to him in this but...

Isn't he one of those who favors a robust military response to absolutely everything? Further, isn't he one of those who throws "anti-semitism" around just a bit too freely? Like when someone criticizes Israel over anything?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (GYIa4)

105
At the turn of the century, Forbes ran a special edition in 1999 that allowed the Big Brains and Our Betters to opine on what the New Millennium had in store for us.

Most were just plain silly wish casting, but one prediction I've never forgotten (esp after 9/11) was that the West was going to find it necessary to reinstitute Colonialism in the Middle East due to ongoing jihad and islamic terrorism.

The idea being that that terrorism was going to be too costly and horrifying to the West and so they would take over the Middle East, IIRC to neuter islam.

I think we're there, in current circumstances, however , who knew that every single politician from the President on down was not only bribable against the direct interest and safety of their citizens, but-

dinner party invites and staying in the Our Enlightened, World Citizen Betters Club was more important than their own citizens lives?

Sad.

And disgusting.

Worldwide disgusting.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (QzZeQ)

106 Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

As Andrew Tate commented to Piers Morgan, (and commented upon by Jimmy Dore....what a weird time to be alive https://tinyurl.com/38nzhwbu) Ben Shapiro is a neocon war hawk who has never met a war he didn't support and want to get involved in.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (JCZqz)

107 Michael Moore needs to give up all his wealth, renounce his US citizenship, and move to Cuba and experience what commie life for the little guy (pun intended) is really like.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:31 A

He would but Cuba would tip over.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:33 AM (bqazj)

108 They are no longer willing to live peaceably with these barbarians, and will not do it anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)

Daniel Pipes thinks that is temporary, and that Israel will return to the status quo ante bellum.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:33 AM (3Gtis)

109 Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (3Gtis)

AND his sister has a nice rack.

And a nose that could cleave an ox in two.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:33 AM (zZu0s)

110 Not knowledgeable about Israeli politics, that said Qatar seems to be the driving force behind obtaining the release of Israeli hostages. Could this be why Bibbi gave the assurance about not killing the hamass officials on Qatari soil? Of course the Qataris are also getting the hamass terrorists in Israeli prisons released, so they aren't exactly pure in their motivation..

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 11:33 AM (2NHgQ)

111 Some say Bibi knows French too. He always seems to nod at the correct times when French speakers are in his presence.

He pissed me of when he dissed Trump so quickly. If he doesn’t know, the left is have to get him. He legitimately has no situational awareness.

In this horrible situation I don’t know if there’s anyone better I don’t know is really politics enough. Is there anyone better that’s on the horizon?

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:33 AM (f+lVG)

112 American lefties have hated Netanyahu ever since Obama hated him.

He's always been controversial in Israel, the current unified wartime government notwithstanding. I bet he retires once the Hamas war is over.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:23 AM (TqUyY)

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His political career has a delayed death sentence over since 10/7.

All he can do now is establish some semblance of a legacy with this war and its results.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 11:34 AM (Nk12m)

113 Oh, they can. See War of Northern Aggression, WWI and II and Korea. Even Vietnam was total war. Not to mention the Indian Wars of the 1870s. What has killed America is endless immigration. Taking in people who want only free shit is how you kill a nation.
Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (ntk8v)
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I think we can agree on "they once could", but every recent conflict says they no longer can. At least it appears that way.

Posted by: Chairman Xi at November 28, 2023 11:34 AM (E2t0h)

114 Titrated was used in this post.

Threads with Mannix girls are highly titrated.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM (JrojV)

115 His political career has a delayed death sentence over since 10/7.

All he can do now is establish some semblance of a legacy with this war and its results.
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 11:34 AM (Nk12m)

To be fair, it feels like to me that people have been declaring Bibi to be fini for the past 10 years at least.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM (zZu0s)

116 since we are now past 100:
Jimmy Fallon called a tranny "actress" 'bud' and the activists are losing their minds

https://tinyurl.com/bdeep4xx

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM (CIS44)

117 Threads with Mannix girls are highly titrated.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM (JrojV)

Depends on how well the tits rate.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM (zZu0s)

118 Titrated was used in this post.

"Time and again, Israel carefully titrated its response"

I read the content and found a valuable word.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:20 AM (bqazj)

Titrated. The final score used by Mannix before he links a sexy babe.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (1Yy3c)

119 Daniel Pipes thinks that is temporary, and that Israel will return to the status quo ante bellum.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo'

My position as well. Reading 'smart Substacks' leads me to believe the majority involved are not going to take this where many here would like it to go.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (/BBNv)

120 Meant “Israeli politics” lol. Damn the mic feature on my phone, it makes me lazy.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (f+lVG)

121 I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I have no opinion on Netanyahu. He's a foreign leader "running" a foreign country that's not our enemy.

I just don't care what he does.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (xcxpd)

122 Isn't he one of those who favors a robust military response to absolutely everything? Further, isn't he one of those who throws "anti-semitism" around just a bit too freely? Like when someone criticizes Israel over anything?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM

I don't know if he is one who always wants to send a military response. Nor do I know if he throws the antisemitism card around much. Mostly because I stopped listening to him a long time ago. However, on this issue he's correct. We are dealing with pure evil wiht ham ass. They need to be destroyed.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (bqazj)

123 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (GYIa4)

Honestly...I don't pay that much attention to Ben Shapiro. His political analysis of American politics is crap. I think he is mostly correct about Israel, especially now, and I do agree with him about a bunch of cultural issues, in particular the tranny insanity.

But I haven't noticed that he throws around the charge of "Anti-Semite" as much as, for instance, the leftists at the ADL.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (3Gtis)

124 Now....over 100 so...

Boobs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (xcxpd)

125 total war can't succeed unless the belligerent totally controls its sources of resupply. Israel depends on America. And, American political leaders can't stomach total war. They always want to make a deal. Hence, the present situation.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:29 AM (E2t0h)

Israel no longer depends on America as much as most think. There was a short term shortage of defensive missiles after the original attack overwhelmed the Iron Dome system in the first couple days, but that shortfall has been remedied. Israel is not Ukraine; they have the ability to manufacture most of what they need themselves.

And it's easy to forget that the biggest reason the US is so eager to sell them weaponry is that the Israelis could quite easily take their business to the Russians or the Chinese if they were forced to. Neither of them care who they sell stuff to, they just like the money.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (i9ffA)

126 Titrated. The final score used by Mannix before he links a sexy babe.
Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (1Yy3c)

*subscribed*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 28, 2023 11:37 AM (xcxpd)

127 Based on whose numbers? Cuba's? Pardon me if I'm skeptical.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (I/Qkd)

...

This is also true of every Asian nations self-reports on academic standing. Any culture that places saving face above honesty has BS for statistics.

The US statistics are probably trash too but it's just because our schools are a beautiful mix of incompetent and corrupt.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 28, 2023 11:37 AM (z/ifB)

128 Jimmy Fallon called a tranny "actress" 'bud' and the activists are losing their minds

https://tinyurl.com/bdeep4xx
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM (CIS44)

HAHAHA!!!!!

Reap it, bitch.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

129 He would but Cuba would tip over.
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After a couple of days he would eat Cubans.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:37 AM (ntk8v)

130 Just where IS Joe Mannix, these days, anyway?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (JrojV)

131 COP28 UN climate summit to officially target meat eating! ‘Nations will be told to curb their excessive appetite for meat’ to enforce UN plan for ‘food’s climate transition’

.. I guess they won't be convinced that this course of action is "inoperative" until the UN is lying in the East River

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (RHGPo)

132 Just where IS Joe Mannix, these days, anyway?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I saw him posting under his other name TheJamesMadison yesterday.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (CIS44)

133 This is also true of every Asian nations self-reports on academic standing. Any culture that places saving face above honesty has BS for statistics.
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Do you believe any Government statistics here?

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (ntk8v)

134 since we are now past 100:
Jimmy Fallon called a tranny "actress" 'bud' and the activists are losing their minds

https://tinyurl.com/bdeep4xx
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:35 AM

Of course they are, it's a day ending in Y. And Fuck Fallon and the other late night news opinion shows with a band. Petard, hoisted.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:39 AM (bqazj)

135 121 I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I have no opinion on Netanyahu. He's a foreign leader "running" a foreign country that's not our enemy.

I just don't care what he does.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (xcxpd)

The reason I care is that at the moment, he is fighting *Our* fight before we have to. The real fight is Iran vs. Western Civ in general, and America specifically. This current fight is just a small outbreak on the edge of that Great War still to come. A victory over those forces now will be much better for us in the long run than a loss would be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:39 AM (i9ffA)

136 Just where IS Joe Mannix, these days, anyway?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (JrojV)

Doing touch tests on the next crop of babes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:39 AM (3Gtis)

137 If Netanyahu is the one and only conservative that can lead Israel, then conservatism there is doomed. That also applies to those in America who worship the Ghost of Reagan, or any current politician, be it Trump or DeSantis. Our movement cannot rely solely on one person for its success. There should be an abundance of conservative leaders, and no one should be the sole leader for extended periods.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 28, 2023 11:39 AM (W/MBp)

138 The ancient world was filled with knuckle dragging primitives, but they were masters at doing one thing, and thats sending a message. You go beyond the "everyone involved in planning and executing" and you go for the relatives, anybody that would avenge them, anybody that would succeed them, and anybody that would complain. You wipe it..the fuck...out.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 11:24 AM (VwHCD)
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This is essentially what Colombia did when it finally dealt with FARC. It was brutal in the extreme, but it worked. They went after the middle managers, and did so indirectly: by kidnapping those managers' families. "Sell out your bosses and give us the other information we need so we can destroy your organization and then get the hell out of Dodge and your families will be returned to you. If not, they're dead."

It's a fairly brutal form of war.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (d04cU)

139 What the ever lovin fuck. I am safe (for now) here in US and I'm not Jewish, but how can Netanyahu have seen the atrocities right there on his own soil, and not do everything in his power, including telling Hamas apologists in any country to fuck off, and then destroy everyone and everything that threatens the Israelis safety as soon as it pokes its head out, is beyond me.

Posted by: Joey Baloney at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (FjYaO)

140 Of course they are, it's a day ending in Y. And Fuck Fallon and the other late night news opinion shows with a band. Petard, hoisted.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:39 AM (bqazj)

It is so bizarre that they ape the traditions of better, funnier men (Carson) who were harking back to the Big Band era and even earlier, funnier men (like Jack Benny.)

The present is such a weird place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (zZu0s)

141 Just where IS Joe Mannix, these days, anyway?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (JrojV)

Comment #47.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)

142 This is just halftime, not the end by a long shot. Hamas would be wise to surrender now while they still can; but of course they won't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)
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I hope you are right, but I think you're wishcasting. This isn't halftime. The game is over and the teams are already on the bus. The momentum that Israel had is gone. They aren't going to go from this bullshit ceasefire back to full war. I hope I'm wrong. But history strongly suggests that I'm not.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (iFTx/)

143 123, he talks too fast. He is a smart guy, good to have around, but not a leader. That bleeds into my Limbaugh thesis. Conservatives have been rudderless sans Limbaugh. Only Trump himself can push the message. The entire media in all the shapes and forms is focused on only one thing keeping Trump from delivering that message. to be fair at least in the last year or so I think they have been successful.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (f+lVG)

144 I'm not willing to dismiss Netanyahu so quickly. He's faced with almost impossible decisions, and IMHO is necessarily threading the needle as to what he can do vs. what will cost him more than he gains in the future. It's easy to dismiss him for trying to stay in our good graces, but without us, his job would be that much harder.
Posted by: Archimedes

When your "friends" are setting you up to get your ass kicked by the biggest dude in the bar, it's time to get new friends.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (spU3M)

145 Israel no longer depends on America as much as most think.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (i9ffA)
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Israel's dependence on the United States was stated bluntly by retired IDF Maj. General Yitzhak Brick in an interview earlier this week.

"All of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision-guided bombs, all the airplanes and bombs, it's all from the U.S. The minute they turn off the tap, you can't keep fighting. You have no capability. ... Everyone understands that we can't fight this war without the United States. Period."

Posted by: Chairman Xi at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (XLRZ1)

146 100% CBD. IDK, but perhaps he won't but others will. Extraordinary rendition.

Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (GshMh)

147 The real fight is Iran vs. Western Civ in general, and America specifically.
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Meh. Iran is a toy for children to play with. See Barry Sotero and his Manhattan Friends. Iran can be squashed very quickly. The problem is the costs are not covered in the squashing. Don't kick road apples.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (ntk8v)

148 He would but Cuba would tip over.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Well, Cuba is larger than Guam, so it may be safe. We should fund studies into the matter, utilizing diverse scientists, to settle the question.

Posted by: Representative Hank Johnson at November 28, 2023 11:41 AM (kAmjS)

149 Just where IS Joe Mannix, these days, anyway?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:38 AM (JrojV)

He accidentally got caught up in the Thanksgiving cooking frenzy at his relatives and was stuffed, cooked, and consumed. Poor soul.

There's some Joe Mannix Giblet Gravy leftover, but I don't think it will be posting any babelicious pictures anytime soon.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (QzZeQ)

150 Just where IS Joe Mannix, these days, anyway?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Anyone seen Mr. Scott?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (spU3M)

151 To us on the other side of the ocean, this ceasefire would seem like a contradiction; but not to them. Remember *all* political parties in Israel (save one who's gone quiet) now are praising the efforts to get back as many hostages as possible; but they also appear to universally agree that as soon as there are no more hostages being released, All Hell (literally) is going to be unleashed.

This is just halftime, not the end by a long shot. Hamas would be wise to surrender now while they still can; but of course they won't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)
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We will see. A key problem in what I have read - if it is accurate - is that Hamas is playing the same old game of demanding huge multiples in prisoner exchanges, and is getting them. "We give you one hostage, we get 50 terrorists released from your prisons" is not a good standard. Hamas is getting the "cease-fire" they wanted so they can resupply and reorganize so as to continue the war more effectively *and* it is getting a lot of its soldiers back. Not a bad deal, if you happen to be Hamas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (d04cU)

152 @138 the Russians are still that brutal in dealing with hostage takers. They wipe out entire families until their hostages are released

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2023 11:43 AM (AhZSY)

153
Anyone seen Mr. Scott?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (spU3M)

That's been a minute, I think.

I honked at both of you on my way through your neck of the woods on Saturday, tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 28, 2023 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

154 110 Not knowledgeable about Israeli politics, that said Qatar seems to be the driving force behind obtaining the release of Israeli hostages. Could this be why Bibbi gave the assurance about not killing the hamass officials on Qatari soil? Of course the Qataris are also getting the hamass terrorists in Israeli prisons released, so they aren't exactly pure in their motivation..
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 11:33 AM (2NHgQ)

You are correct; and of course the Qataris are dealmakers by nature, their grandfathers were old Arab Camel Traders, and making a profit off the deal is all that really motivates them. BUT if you want to make an important deal with people you're not speaking to, the Dealmakers are required, and you put up with them to get what's important to you. And yes, part of the price Qatar is asking for their help is a promise not to commit any nastiness on their home turf.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (i9ffA)

155 I was tied up hard for the holiday, and now am tied up hard with work. I'm going to be scarce for a bit. Sad. For me, anyway. You all get a continued reprieve

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (d04cU)

156 137, Jefferson Davis used to write all the time about how he needed five good generals, but he only had R.E. Lee.

He said correctly that he had one general that could win battles, consistently, and no others. That was true and the rest is history.

You can say Israel needs five great leaders better than Netanyahu, but if they don’t have them then what?

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (f+lVG)

157 Oh, good. Mannix is here. Hey, Joe!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (JrojV)

158 139 What the ever lovin fuck. I am safe (for now) here in US and I'm not Jewish, but how can Netanyahu have seen the atrocities right there on his own soil, and not do everything in his power, including telling Hamas apologists in any country to fuck off, and then destroy everyone and everything that threatens the Israelis safety as soon as it pokes its head out, is beyond me.
Posted by: Joey Baloney at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (FjYaO)

Why do newly elected GOP types go to Washington breathing fire and with stars in their eyes and then sell out so quickly?

Why did so many women turn against Sarah Palin when she was everything they supposedly were striving for?

Why do so many NT asshats seem to relish the heavy handed banana republic shit being heaped on Trump?

Why did Disney set their entire brand (and several it bought) in order to satisfy an ephemeral customer base that will never buy their movies because 1) There aren't that many of them and 2) they will never consume it anyway.

Echo chamber. Social pressure. They do it because everyone around them mirrors, reflects and amplifies the exact same message.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (zZu0s)

159 Israel's dependence on the United States was stated bluntly by retired IDF Maj. General Yitzhak Brick in an interview earlier this week.

"All of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision-guided bombs, all the airplanes and bombs, it's all from the U.S. The minute they turn off the tap, you can't keep fighting. You have no capability. ... Everyone understands that we can't fight this war without the United States. Period."
Posted by: Chairman X

Why hasn't Israel come up with their own? Maybe not the fighter jets, but everything else?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (spU3M)

160 Xi sock change...

Tom Servo is right to say Israel supplies itself with quite a bit, but aircraft, lots of iron dome technology, missiles, even shells, all of the basic resupply in an active conflict has to come from America. If nothing else, many of its defense workers are also its reserve soldiers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:44 AM (cIUYJ)

161 He accidentally got caught up in the Thanksgiving cooking frenzy at his relatives and was stuffed, cooked, and consumed. Poor soul.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (QzZeQ)

Getting stuffed and consumed is more fun than you think.

Posted by: Some Mannix Babe at November 28, 2023 11:45 AM (1Yy3c)

162 However, on this issue he's correct.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (bqazj)

There are, or were, some avowed leftists who were correct on this issue as well. I wouldn't quote them in support of the position though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:45 AM (GYIa4)

163 I hope Bibi had his fingers crossed when he promised that...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 28, 2023 11:45 AM (bs+z0)

164 Not a bad deal, if you happen to be Hamas.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (d04cU)

Be horrible if the prisoners ended up dead before they got to jail in future.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:45 AM (zZu0s)

165 Rest assured, fellow Morons. If Mannix, for any reason, is unable to fulfill his duties posting lovely ladies, I stand ready and willing to meet that obligation!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 28, 2023 11:46 AM (kAmjS)

166 My opinion of Netanyahu is well known and a a decade old.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 28, 2023 11:47 AM (pVWRI)

167 But I haven't noticed that he throws around the charge of "Anti-Semite" as much as, for instance, the leftists at the ADL.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (3Gtis)

That may be so, and I'll accept your point since I really don't know myself, although saying that you throw a charge around less than an organization which gets it's funding based on finding anti-semitism literally everywhere is a pretty low bar to get over.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:47 AM (GYIa4)

168 Folks,

Some very interesting perspectives, and a typically robust conversation!

Thank you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:47 AM (3Gtis)

169 Sadly, Bibi has to deal with the Israeli left. They probably have a batphone set up for Obama instructions

Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:47 AM (33nmr)

170 This the guy that called to congratulate Biden on his electoral victory before ink on the forged ballots was dry?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM (7dFgz)

171 You want boobs?-You can find both literal and figurative boobs in an article in the "NY Post" where singer Selena Gomez complains that people should notice her new dyed blonde locks and not her boobs-while she's wearing a low cut dress showing off- partially-her boobs. LOL What a boob! and no, I'm not linking it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM (RSbhh)

172 be careful You have not walked in his shoes.

Posted by: Susan D Harms at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM (FDFdw)

173 There's some Joe Mannix Giblet Gravy leftover, but I don't think it will be posting any babelicious pictures anytime soon.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (QzZeQ)

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Gravy-covered Mannix Babes FTW!

And how would Fen possibly counter that?

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM (W2/FY)

174 Netanyahu is a politician who has been close to power or in office, forever. How can you do that without being a chameleon?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:49 AM (cIUYJ)

175 saying that you throw a charge around less than an organization which gets it's funding based on finding anti-semitism literally everywhere is a pretty low bar to get over.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:47 AM (GYIa4)

True. I'll pay more attention to the little guy.

I already know what the ADL is...a bought-and-paid-for lackey of the left.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:49 AM (3Gtis)

176 This is just halftime, not the end by a long shot. Hamas would be wise to surrender now while they still can; but of course they won't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)
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We will see. A key problem in what I have read - if it is accurate - is that Hamas is playing the same old game of demanding huge multiples in prisoner exchanges, and is getting them. "We give you one hostage, we get 50 terrorists released from your prisons" is not a good standard. Hamas is getting the "cease-fire" they wanted so they can resupply and reorganize so as to continue the war more effectively *and* it is getting a lot of its soldiers back. Not a bad deal, if you happen to be Hamas.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (d04cU)
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I agree. The terms of the hostage release are suicidal to Israel. The whole point of Israel agreeing to the ceasefire was to get back their people. Then I read that not only does Hamas get the ceasefire they desperately wanted, they are also getting a disproportionate number of hardened terrorists back. WTF? What was the point of the ceasefire then? This deal seems to heavily favor Hamas. Again: WTF?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

177 Rest assured, fellow Morons. If Mannix, for any reason, is unable to fulfill his duties posting lovely ladies, I stand ready and willing to meet that obligation!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar

Because you're a giver.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:49 AM (JrojV)

178 You want boobs?-You can find both literal and figurative boobs in an article in the "NY Post" where singer Selena Gomez complains that people should notice her new dyed blonde locks and not her boobs-while she's wearing a low cut dress showing off- partially-her boobs. LOL What a boob! and no, I'm not linking it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM (RSbhh)
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thanks Fen

bbl

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:49 AM (cIUYJ)

179 103 And, American political leaders can't stomach total war.
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Oh, they can. See War of Northern Aggression, WWI and II and Korea. Even Vietnam was total war. Not to mention the Indian Wars of the 1870s. What has killed America is endless immigration. Taking in people who want only free shit is how you kill a nation.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (ntk8v)

Vietnam may have been "total war" at some point, but by the end it really wasn't. ROE changed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (ynpvh)

180 Thanks CBD!

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (f+lVG)

181 156 137, Jefferson Davis used to write all the time about how he needed five good generals, but he only had R.E. Lee.

He said correctly that he had one general that could win battles, consistently, and no others. That was true and the rest is history.

You can say Israel needs five great leaders better than Netanyahu, but if they don’t have them then what?
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Lee was good cuz he knew his enemies intimately. On offense he was not that good. Defense was his strength. The problem with defense in a total war situation is you will ultimately lose unless you go total war, too. The South seceded to avoid a war. They had no plans to destroy the North. They didn't have to numbers to go full Cain.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (Wg6v7)

182 It's a fairly brutal form of war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (d04cU)

Generally speaking, any successful war was a brutal one.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (GYIa4)

183 We will see. A key problem in what I have read - if it is accurate - is that Hamas is playing the same old game of demanding huge multiples in prisoner exchanges, and is getting them. "We give you one hostage, we get 50 terrorists released from your prisons" is not a good standard. Hamas is getting the "cease-fire" they wanted so they can resupply and reorganize so as to continue the war more effectively *and* it is getting a lot of its soldiers back. Not a bad deal, if you happen to be Hamas.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (d04cU)

A counter to the argument; I was just reading that most of the prisoners Israel has given up were women and children already scheduled for release in the next few months. As to the rough 3 for 1, Hamas demanded it or there would have been no deal at all, and Israel decided that getting some of their people was was worth putting up with this insult

I also think that the IDF is the one that is primarily benefiting from the time used to resupply and reorganize, more than Hamas is. Hamas has stuck their heads above ground and realized "oh shit, it's all gone."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (i9ffA)

184 I agree. The terms of the hostage release are suicidal to Israel. The whole point of Israel agreeing to the ceasefire was to get back their people. Then I read that not only does Hamas get the ceasefire they desperately wanted, they are also getting a disproportionate number of hardened terrorists back. WTF? What was the point of the ceasefire then? This deal seems to heavily favor Hamas. Again: WTF?
Posted by: Elric Blade a

AND that was used as a cudgel by the BBC to accuse Israel of not valuing 'palestinian' lives as much

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (CIS44)

185 And it's easy to forget that the biggest reason the US is so eager to sell them weaponry is that the Israelis could quite easily take their business to the Russians or the Chinese if they were forced to. Neither of them care who they sell stuff to, they just like the money.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:36 AM (i9ffA)

I think you are right from an MIC perspective.

Our MIC loves military aid. The recipient is guaranteed to take it because it's free to them.

It's like ordering online:

Shipping address: Foreign Country

Billing address (if different): US taxpayer

In this way they don't have to be efficient or competitive in pricing and production with foreign entities.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 28, 2023 11:51 AM (MQlda)

186 I hope Bibi is lying his ass off to get the release of hostages and then has a plan to kill the Pali hostages he released and unleash holy hell on the shit hole of 'Palestine'.

Fuck ethical war.

Posted by: Joey Baloney at November 28, 2023 11:51 AM (FjYaO)

187 Vietnam may have been "total war" at some point, but by the end it really wasn't. ROE changed.
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Operation Linebacker was total war. The problem was it was used to get the Commies to the Negotiation Table.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:51 AM (Wg6v7)

188 >>> French journalist Georges Malbrunot of "Le Figaro" reported from his sources that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to Qatar that Israel would not act against the leaders of Hamas living in Qatar.

I would say that too, say it while my guys were making the hit, and afterwards remind them that it wasn't us because we said we would not do that.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2023 11:51 AM (7dFgz)

189 Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 11:49 AM (cIUYJ)

It's really not worth trying to find. You can find much better boob shots all over the internet, I'm sure. I just mentioned it because she's a boob.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (RSbhh)

190 This busty brunette in a red dress is disheartened at the developments in the war against Hamas, but is nevertheless glad to be back:
https://is.gd/u9CXLX

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (d04cU)

191 Selena Gomez was a cutie as a brunette. Why the hell would she dye her hair blonde?

Same with Alicia Malone going from ginger to blonde.

What the hell is this obsession with blonde hair? If a woman is naturally blonde, fine, but those two ladies (and many others) looked perfectly fine with their natural hair color.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (JrojV)

192 Well, this war is far from over. I will bet the Israelis are using this time to refit, rearm, rest, and fold in the Reserves.
Sinwar is a dead man walking. He won't stay in Qutar forever. And if he does stay, he can be finessed out of the game. If he continues as an annoyance, there are always third parties willing to take the contract.
The fighting will resume.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (uSHSS)

193 171 You want boobs?-You can find both literal and figurative boobs in an article in the "NY Post" where singer Selena Gomez complains that people should notice her new dyed blonde locks and not her boobs-while she's wearing a low cut dress showing off- partially-her boobs. LOL What a boob! and no, I'm not linking it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM (RSbhh)
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Meh, wait until she's older and has high miles and nobody wants to see her boobs any more. Then she'll join the chorus of faded starlets bitching and whining about how bad and sexist it was to cash big checks for flaunting their assets. Boo hoo.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

194 Not just about anti semitism with 10/7, also about hatred of Bibi being a so called right winger

Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (33nmr)

195 Echo chamber. Social pressure. They do it because everyone around them mirrors, reflects and amplifies the exact same message.

Western Civilization is totally f*cked and I see no way to change it.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (nfrXX)

196 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (/MbBE)

197 Oh, they can. See War of Northern Aggression, WWI and II and Korea. Even Vietnam was total war. Not to mention the Indian Wars of the 1870s. What has killed America is endless immigration. Taking in people who want only free shit is how you kill a nation.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:32 AM (ntk8v)

It would be amusing to see W. T. Sherman walk up and review a line of tranny soy boy recruits from today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (i9ffA)

198 182 It's a fairly brutal form of war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:40 AM (d04cU)

Generally speaking, any successful war was a brutal one.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (GYIa4)

Brutality is sometimes needed to stop a brutal force; you need to teach brutes in the only way they understand.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (ynpvh)

199 Iran's arming and support of Houthi's in Yemen took a concerning turn the other day. 3 anti-ship ballistic missiles were fired in the general direction of a USN guided missile destroyer and a commercial vessel. The commercial vessel was Israeli owned but not flying under flag.

The use of ASBM's is seen as a significant escalation. The Navy is not 100% in its ability to defeat them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)

200 192. It is Iran that gets the free pass, with Biden’s protection

Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (33nmr)

201 194 Not just about anti semitism with 10/7, also about hatred of Bibi being a so called right winger
Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (33nmr)

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The same line of thinking that leads leftists to laugh at people in Florida dying from hurricanes because if they'd voted for Gillum there wouldn't be hurricanes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (GBKbO)

202 Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

I don't really care about Selena Gomez-here or in the future. I just think hers was a stupid comment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (RSbhh)

203 Well, this war is far from over. I will bet the Israelis are using this time to refit, rearm, rest, and fold in the Reserves.
Sinwar is a dead man walking. He won't stay in Qutar forever. And if he does stay, he can be finessed out of the game. If he continues as an annoyance, there are always third parties willing to take the contract.
The fighting will resume.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (uSHSS)

I wonder if Sinwar is even alive....

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (V13WU)

204 AND that was used as a cudgel by the BBC to accuse Israel of not valuing 'palestinian' lives as much
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (CIS44)
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This is something people need to stop caring about and perhaps just lean into it.

I value American lives more than foreign lives. This is right and proper. Israel *should* value Israeli lives more than Pali lives. This is right and proper. The Palis sure as shit value Pali lives more than Israeli ones.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (d04cU)

205 Has a bit of the Selma Hayek feel. However, I think Selma is prettier.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (zZu0s)

206 That's been a minute, I think.

I honked at both of you on my way through your neck of the woods on Saturday, tho.
Posted by: Sponge

Bummer. I would have waved.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (spU3M)

207 201 194 Not just about anti semitism with 10/7, also about hatred of Bibi being a so called right winger
Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (33nmr)

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The same line of thinking that leads leftists to laugh at people in Florida dying from hurricanes because if they'd voted for Gillum there wouldn't be hurricanes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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No hurricanes. But there would be trains . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (iFTx/)

208 This busty brunette in a red dress...

...and a chin like a Mardi Gras mask...

Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (nfrXX)

209 You want boobs?-You can find both literal and figurative boobs in an article in the "NY Post" where singer Selena Gomez complains that people should notice her new dyed blonde locks and not her boobs-while she's wearing a low cut dress showing off- partially-her boobs. LOL What a boob! and no, I'm not linking it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 11:48 AM

One who parades her goods at every chance she gets should not complain about being looked at. It is like inviting people over for a bonfire and then telling them not to warm themselves or look at the flames.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 11:55 AM (bqazj)

210 Let's cut support of Taiwan. enough of those satraps....

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2023 11:55 AM (V13WU)

211 197. What can we do Tom? Dems open the border for new voters, Gop wants it for cheap labor

Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:55 AM (33nmr)

212 204 This is something people need to stop caring about and perhaps just lean into it.

I value American lives more than foreign lives. This is right and proper. Israel *should* value Israeli lives more than Pali lives. This is right and proper. The Palis sure as shit value Pali lives more than Israeli ones.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (d04cU)

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To be right and good is to be cosmopolitan which is to value all lives equally: less than the elite's.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 28, 2023 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

213 Lee was good cuz he knew his enemies intimately. On offense he was not that good. Defense was his strength. The problem with defense in a total war situation is you will ultimately lose unless you go total war, too. The South seceded to avoid a war. They had no plans to destroy the North. They didn't have to numbers to go full Cain.
Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (Wg6v7)

They should have taken DC after Bull Run but they were still in the all-defense mode.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (GYIa4)

214 210. Wall street supports Taiwan. I believe the chips are made there

Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (33nmr)

215 This is something people need to stop caring about and perhaps just lean into it.

I value American lives more than foreign lives. This is right and proper. Israel *should* value Israeli lives more than Pali lives. This is right and proper. The Palis sure as shit value Pali lives more than Israeli ones.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) a

Oh I agree, just pointing out its a no win scenario with their critics anyway.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (CIS44)

216 199 Iran's arming and support of Houthi's in Yemen took a concerning turn the other day. 3 anti-ship ballistic missiles were fired in the general direction of a USN guided missile destroyer and a commercial vessel. The commercial vessel was Israeli owned but not flying under flag.

The use of ASBM's is seen as a significant escalation. The Navy is not 100% in its ability to defeat them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)

It's not that the Biden Admin doesn't have the balls to sink Iranian ships, it's that they don't want to and refuse to. Why sink ships you paid for?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (ynpvh)

217 Western Civilization is totally f*cked and I see no way to change it.
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Simple. Stop all immigration for two or three generations and teach the newbies all shit is not free.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (Wg6v7)

218 104 Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (3Gtis)

I respect him for that; but I can never really forgive him for saying that it was Our Conservative Duty to shut up and get the vaxx.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (i9ffA)

219 Lee was good cuz he knew his enemies intimately. On offense he was not that good. Defense was his strength. The problem with defense in a total war situation is you will ultimately lose unless you go total war, too. The South seceded to avoid a war. They had no plans to destroy the North. They didn't have to numbers to go full Cain.
Posted by: Pudhinhead

Good analysis, Puddin.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:57 AM (JrojV)

220 181, Lee used to be the most known and revered general in American history by far. He was on five US postage stamps over the years when being on a postage stamp actually meant something.

His home at Arlington has been declared by the US government to be a national shrine. Grant has not been on five postage stamps, and his home is not a national shrine, too bad in many ways, because he was an American hero for sure.

Anyone critiquing Lee and I include myself, is not even on the same playing field, enough said.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 11:57 AM (f+lVG)

221 This busty brunette in a red dress is disheartened at the developments in the war against Hamas, but is nevertheless glad to be back:
https://is.gd/u9CXLX
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (d04cU)

She's got a jaw/chin like one of those meme drawings. I forget which one it is.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (GYIa4)

222 Bibi has to deal with the Israeli left. They probably have a batphone set up for Obama instructions
Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:47 AM (33nmr)
Actually NO, not on this one

99% of the Israeli populace and politicians are behind wiping Hamas out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (pVWRI)

223 but I can never really forgive him for saying that it was Our Conservative Duty to shut up and get the vaxx.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (i9ffA)

And he changed his tune when he saw the fraud.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (M5QzP)

224 218 104 Little squeaky-voiced Ben has been a stand-up guy since October 7th. I know people love to give him shit, and there is a lot in his political analysis that is nonsense, but he is a stalwart supporter of Israel and a robust military response to Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2023 11:26 AM (3Gtis)

I respect him for that; but I can never really forgive him for saying that it was Our Conservative Duty to shut up and get the vaxx.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (i9ffA)

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He's great for punching dumb college students in the nose rhetorically, and since college students are a hotbed of this antisemitism, it's just in his wheelhouse.

As soon as the Israeli-Hamas war is out of the news, he'll be right back to policing the right for bad manners and trying to win with the wrong tactics.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

225 We will see. A key problem in what I have read - if it is accurate - is that Hamas is playing the same old game of demanding huge multiples in prisoner exchanges, and is getting them. "We give you one hostage, we get 50 terrorists released from your prisons" is not a good standard. Hamas is getting the "cease-fire" they wanted so they can resupply and reorganize so as to continue the war more effectively *and* it is getting a lot of its soldiers back. Not a bad deal, if you happen to be Hamas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:42 AM (d04cU)

It would be a master stroke if..IF..(big if) the idea is to kill those 50 terrorists released ON the battlefield. You can't kill them in prison, the west would shit their diapers, but in prison..they still live. Get them out in the battlefield where you can waste their silly ass with impunity. Shorter version, why pay to keep them alive in prison when you can kill them in the field. Dead is the preferred outcome. Of course it requires serious follow though, tracking where they are, etc etc.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (VwHCD)

226 Jefferson Davis used to write all the time about how he needed five good generals, but he only had R.E. Lee.

He said correctly that he had one general that could win battles, consistently, and no others. That was true and the rest is history.

Meh. Sounds like JD was making excuses. Jackson and Longstreet were no slouches. Gen. Albert Sidney Johnston was also supposed to be quite good, but got killed at Shiloh.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (I/Qkd)

227 I'm getting rather weary of the extensive coverage and weeping over the death of Rosalyn Carter (not to mention her service is interfering with McCain's) I don't recall any other first lady getting this treatment, was she really that wonderful, almost an angel from heaven from what we are being told? I'm thinking this is all a part of the rehabilitation of the Jimmy Carter legacy. It seems like certain members of the ruling class are now royalty and we must all bend a knee and made to care.

Posted by: Ripley at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (JojsZ)

228 204 AND that was used as a cudgel by the BBC to accuse Israel of not valuing 'palestinian' lives as much
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM (CIS44)
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This is something people need to stop caring about and perhaps just lean into it.

I value American lives more than foreign lives. This is right and proper. Israel *should* value Israeli lives more than Pali lives. This is right and proper. The Palis sure as shit value Pali lives more than Israeli ones.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 11:54 AM (d04cU)
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That last point I'm not sure about. I continue to believe that Hamas would kill five Palis if it meant one Israeli death. Hamas is a death cult. They prefer Israeli deaths, but if not then their own is fine too.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (iFTx/)

229 211 197. What can we do Tom? Dems open the border for new voters, Gop wants it for cheap labor
Posted by: Jonah at November 28, 2023 11:55 AM (33nmr)

Well that question is like the crew of the Titanic wondering what they can do after they've already hit the iceberg. Do a better job at filling up the lifeboats and getting ready for the ship to sink, mostly. The damage has been done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (i9ffA)

230 Meh, wait until she's older and has high miles and nobody wants to see her boobs any more. Then she'll join the chorus of faded starlets bitching and whining about how bad and sexist it was to cash big checks for flaunting their assets. Boo hoo.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Jennifer Love Hewitt has entered the chat.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (JrojV)

231 They should have taken DC after Bull Run but they were still in the all-defense mode.
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Yeah, if they had the numbers, which I doubt. Liberating Maryland from their oppressors would have been nice. Not sure they had anyway to dislodge Ft. McHenry in Baltimore, though.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (Wg6v7)

232 165 Rest assured, fellow Morons. If Mannix, for any reason, is unable to fulfill his duties posting lovely ladies, I stand ready and willing to meet that obligation!
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 28, 2023 11:46 AM (kAmjS)

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Thanks, but I'll pass on any links that you provide...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (F4bAW)

233 The staff of the Global Times claimed on Tuesday that Chinese officials did not expect Milei to fulfill his campaign promises to distance Argentine foreign policy from Argentina, in part because of “the severity of the challenges currently faced by Argentina.”

Describing Milei’s task as “far trickier … than [that of] any American president since the Depression,” the Times insisted that Buenos Aires did not have the economic leverage to choose its geopolitical friends. It also used the example of neighboring Brazil, where conservative former President Jair Bolsonaro campaigned against socialism and communism, but as president adopted pro-communist policies and even gifted genocidal dictator Xi Jinping a soccer jersey during a visit to Beijing.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (RHGPo)

234 Well, this war is far from over. I will bet the Israelis are using this time to refit, rearm, rest, and fold in the Reserves.
Sinwar is a dead man walking. He won't stay in Qutar forever. And if he does stay, he can be finessed out of the game. If he continues as an annoyance, there are always third parties willing to take the contract.
The fighting will resume.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2023 11:52 AM (uSHSS)

One of the "issues" and Problems is the Israeli Economy

The Reservists can't be away forever. Israel has an internal clock ticking

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 28, 2023 12:00 PM (pVWRI)

235 That last point I'm not sure about. I continue to believe that Hamas would kill five Palis if it meant one Israeli death. Hamas is a death cult. They prefer Israeli deaths, but if not then their own is fine too.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 11:58 AM (iFTx/)
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Yes. The points are not contradictory. The Palis value their lives insofar as those lives are also weapons of war. They don't want to die *other* than in glorious jihad and every death is of course martyrdom but nonetheless regrettable because that death means he will kill no more Israelis.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 12:00 PM (d04cU)

236 This busty brunette in a red dress...

...and a chin like a Mardi Gras mask...

Yup, Joe Man-Chin.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:00 PM (I/Qkd)

237 US is either a player or its not. and if it is not , then China , Russia and Iran are. Can US take a chance of being pushed out by China and the rest form the world stage. USSR influence the lives of half of Europe for 40 years. how did that go ? USSR is gone, but China is not.

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2023 12:00 PM (V13WU)

238 Vietnam may have been "total war" at some point, but by the end it really wasn't. ROE changed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

It never was "total".

We rarely went into North Vietnam. We should have been carpet bombing Hanoi daily. Vietnam was a mainly defensive war.

Total war = Sherman's March to the Sea. WWII = All the way to Berlin & 2 Atomic Bombs on Japan with plans to move onto the main island.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 12:00 PM (spU3M)

239 Netanyahu is dependent on Western weapons and if I had to guess, that is why he toes the globalist line.

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 28, 2023 12:02 PM (klw0w)

240 230 Meh, wait until she's older and has high miles and nobody wants to see her boobs any more. Then she'll join the chorus of faded starlets bitching and whining about how bad and sexist it was to cash big checks for flaunting their assets. Boo hoo.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Jennifer Love Hewitt has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (JrojV)
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Yup, and the that Game of Thrones THOT too. Odd that you never hear aging male studs complain about this. They flaunted their muscles, cashed the checks, and don't later complain about it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 12:02 PM (iFTx/)

241 Total war = Sherman's March to the Sea. WWII = All the way to Berlin & 2 Atomic Bombs on Japan with plans to move onto the main island.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2023 12:00 PM (spU3M)

Korea was total war until China got involved and we haven't had the stones since.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:03 PM (GYIa4)

242 His home at Arlington has been declared by the US government to be a national shrine. "

Well that's one way to put it. At the time, they said his home was being seized and the grounds turned into a cemetery for the war dead to guarantee that R. E. Lee could never return there, no matter what the outcome of the war. It took many decades and a world war or two to turn Arlington into the "shrine" it is today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 12:03 PM (i9ffA)

243 Vietnam may have been "total war" at some point, but by the end it really wasn't. ROE changed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:50 AM

Yep, if the enemy has a haven like they had in Hanoi and neighboring countries it's impossible to win. NVA would only come to the table when they were getting the shit bombed out of them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 12:03 PM (bqazj)

244 It's not that the Biden Admin doesn't have the balls to sink Iranian ships, it's that they don't want to and refuse to. Why sink ships you paid for?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 11:56 AM (ynpvh)

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To support or defend Israel, but to make sure Israel doesn't go too far in her own defense -- especially vis-a-vis Iran.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 12:03 PM (rATg1)

245 In remarks intended to bolster long-sagging public approval of his economic policies, Biden insisted that businesses were “price gouging” if they have not brought down their prices as the inflation rate has declined.

.. Biden has no idea what he is talking about.

First, you have to imagine the inflation rate as the equivalent of the rate at which you are gaining weight. When you slow or stop gaining weight, you aren't automatically thin again .. and neither are prices back to where we started.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 12:03 PM (RHGPo)

246 Hamas values common Palestinian’s lives less than Israel does. Israel doesn’t use Palestinians as human shields like Hamas does. Israel doesn’t use Palestinian children suicide bombers . Israel doesn’t intentionally bomb Palestinian civilians for propaganda purposes

Posted by: Drive by at November 28, 2023 12:04 PM (MNhXM)

247 Yup, and the that Game of Thrones THOT too. Odd that you never hear aging male studs complain about this. They flaunted their muscles, cashed the checks, and don't later complain about it.
Posted by: Elric Blade

*sniffs* Well, we studs are just modest that way...

Posted by: Zombie Don Knotts at November 28, 2023 12:04 PM (JrojV)

248 245 In remarks intended to bolster long-sagging public approval of his economic policies, Biden insisted that businesses were “price gouging” if they have not brought down their prices as the inflation rate has declined.

.. Biden has no idea what he is talking about.

First, you have to imagine the inflation rate as the equivalent of the rate at which you are gaining weight. When you slow or stop gaining weight, you aren't automatically thin again .. and neither are prices back to where we started.
Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 12:03 PM (RHGPo)

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"Oh, Biden said something. My opinion is completely different now."
-Who?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 28, 2023 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

249 Mine is better lol. But yeah. Lee won over and over on the defense and offense. His most famous victory was Chancellorsville, all offense. There were others as well.

The USA, won by a plodding forward movement against an enemy with no replacements available. If the defense was superior, and Lee should have chosen it, he would have won the Overland Campaign and history would have been very different.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:04 PM (f+lVG)

250 This pretty young woman in an elegant red dress is glad she wasn't required to have her "cups "runneth over" in order to form and give an opinion on Hamas, and her support for Israel. She is glad to be here for the first time, however.

https://tinyurl.com/4mma4pp6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (RSbhh)

251 Ripley. You're surprised. Do you remember George Floyd's funeral? It's what the left does now, worshipping all of their dead.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (2NHgQ)

252 [Butchered my comment:]

THOSE U S. NAVY SHIPS ARE NOT THERE To support or defend Israel, but to make sure Israel doesn't go too far in her own defense -- especially vis-a-vis Iran.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (rATg1)

253 This pretty young woman in an elegant red dress is glad she wasn't required to have her "cups "runneth over" in order to form and give an opinion on Hamas, and her support for Israel. She is glad to be here for the first time, however.

https://tinyurl.com/4mma4pp6

Wow, really long legs.

Posted by: Zombie Don Knotts at November 28, 2023 12:06 PM (JrojV)

254 Oops, strike one.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 12:07 PM (JrojV)

255 elegant red dress

Is she standing on an apple crate?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 28, 2023 12:07 PM (k5OSW)

256 This pretty young woman in an elegant red dress is glad she wasn't required to have her "cups "runneth over" in order to form and give an opinion on Hamas, and her support for Israel. She is glad to be here for the first time, however.

https://tinyurl.com/4mma4pp6
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (RSbhh)
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Pretty lady, but that is a *lot* of fabric. I hope she has a maid to help manage the dress!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 12:07 PM (d04cU)

257 Hamas values common Palestinian’s lives less than Israel does.
Posted by: Drive by at November 28, 2023 12:04 PM (MNhXM)

And that was the point that Candace Owens, seemingly, missed. Yes, it's sad that any actually innocent Palis died as a result of Israeli bombardments but that's war. Israel didn't start it, Israel didn't force Hamas to hide amongst civilians, and expecting niceties in battle is refusing to conduct total war. If you are unwilling to win, you won't.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:07 PM (GYIa4)

258 Fen. Nice. Worthy of an Oregon Muse chess thread.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 12:07 PM (2NHgQ)

259 This pretty young woman in an elegant red dress is glad she wasn't required to have her "cups "runneth over" in order to form and give an opinion on Hamas, and her support for Israel. She is glad to be here for the first time, however.

https://tinyurl.com/4mma4pp6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (RSbhh)

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Nice!

/She would also look yummy covered in gravy ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (rATg1)

260 A lot of this goes back to the globalists kicking Trump out of office. We had a greater supply of hydrocarbon energy than demand keeping the price of oil down which neutered Russia and the Middle East overall. And it neutered the Bush wing of the Texas oil kings which are now selling LNG to Europe at a 7X increase in price(see Mike Benz). There is no longer market forces at work and that is the point: control the supply of everything to control pricing. This is the hallmark of the globalists.

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (klw0w)

261 Yup, and the that Game of Thrones THOT too. Odd that you never hear aging male studs complain about this. They flaunted their muscles, cashed the checks, and don't later complain about it.

Not quite the same. First, men usually only show their chests or at most, butts. Women have to show sexual characteristics, especially boobs, but sometimes full frontal (see Jennifer Lawrence). Second, it is accepted that men are sexually aggressive, while women are at least supposed to be more restrained.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)

262 Amen CBD

Posted by: Floridachick at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (vijRe)

263 242, Tom, Lee’s home at Arlington has been declared the national shrine by the US government that has been the case for many many decades.

There has nothing to do with the fact that Arlington was made a cemetery during the Civil War to punish Lee. It also has nothing to do with the fact that Arlington cemetery is the most revered cemetery in this country. My parents are buried there.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (f+lVG)

264 Do those legs go all the way up?

Posted by: I would like to know at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (NBVIP)

265 Wow, really long legs.
Posted by: Zombie Don Knotts at November 28, 2023 12:06 PM (JrojV)
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The Incredible Mr. Limpet has joined the Naval task force!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (45dC0)

266 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (RSbhh)

I'm giving this one to Fen although she had the advantage of going second.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:09 PM (GYIa4)

267 252. Correct

Posted by: Floridachick at November 28, 2023 12:09 PM (vijRe)

268 Well said, CBD.

Bibi's only path to salvation after October 7 was to annihilate Hamas. In caving on the ceasefire he has cemented his reputation as a quisling.

Posted by: creeper at November 28, 2023 12:09 PM (cTCuP)

269 Not quite the same. First, men usually only show their chests or at most, butts. Women have to show sexual characteristics, especially boobs, but sometimes full frontal (see Jennifer Lawrence). Second, it is accepted that men are sexually aggressive, while women are at least supposed to be more restrained.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)

You know that butts and chests are sexual characteristics of men for women. Dic pics are only attractive to homos.

Posted by: Drive by at November 28, 2023 12:09 PM (MNhXM)

270 This pretty young woman in an elegant red dress is glad she wasn't required to have her "cups "runneth over" in order to form and give an opinion on Hamas, and her support for Israel. She is glad to be here for the first time, however.

She purty.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:10 PM (I/Qkd)

271 /She would also look yummy covered in gravy ...

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See what you've done, Fen?

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 28, 2023 12:10 PM (k3XCL)

272 Inside Israeli politics, the only politician I see who might have enough standing to challenge Netanyahu is Benny Gantz; but Gantz joined the War Cabinet, and is in complete agreement with every decision Netanyahu has made in the wars prosecution. And when asked if he would ever try to become PM, he has said several times "Don't even ask that question until this war is completely over."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 12:10 PM (i9ffA)

273 242, I hear you, but you’re wrong about that one my good man. Look it up they made his house, particularly his house, a national shrine, not the cemetery.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:10 PM (f+lVG)

274
"Oh, Biden said something. My opinion is completely different now."
-Who?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 28, 2023 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
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I know! I know!

"No one, ever"

Posted by: Robert Gates at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (kLP3+)

275 > THOSE U S. NAVY SHIPS ARE NOT THERE To support or defend Israel, but to make sure Israel doesn't go too far in her own defense -- especially vis-a-vis Iran.
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If the Iranian backed Houthi's keep firing missiles and drones at our warships and we respond Israel will bear the brunt of any Iranian counter attack, not us.

They'll respond accordingly and likely nuke Tehran.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

276 You know that butts and chests are sexual characteristics of men for women. Dic pics are only attractive to homos.

Eh, not really. If they were the same, every beach would be topless.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (I/Qkd)

277 ...the Bush wing of the Texas oil kings which are now selling LNG to Europe at a 7X increase in price...
Posted by: Danimal28 at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (klw0w)

Awful lucky for the "Republican" side of the uniparty that that pipeline got destroyed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (GYIa4)

278 She would also look yummy covered in gravy ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (rATg1)

Well, I imagine you could find women covered in gravy-not because of being sloppy while cooking -or having gravy get on their blouse while eating TG dinner.. It's probably a channel on Pornhub.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (RSbhh)

279 The USA, won by a plodding forward movement against an enemy with no replacements available. If the defense was superior, and Lee should have chosen it, he would have won the Overland Campaign and history would have been very different.
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The Wilderness Campaign was immensely stupid and the stupidity belongs to Grant. He spent 55k Union soldiers to kill 33k Confederates and gained nothing of real merit for this expense. This is attrition - not genius. This is a sausage grinder. The war and the Boer War was very prescient in what war would be like in the 20th C.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (wh7vU)

280 President Joe Biden plans to skip U.N. climate talks beginning this week in Dubai

.. because he doesn't ant to be there when the UN delegates start talking about cutting consumption of meat to get to NetZero goals. It's a sure fire way to lose next year's election.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (RHGPo)

281 Second, it is accepted that men are sexually aggressive, while women are at least supposed to be more restrained.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)
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When I was single, I was in favor of sexually aggressive women.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (DmY+C)

282 Well, I imagine you could find women covered in gravy-not because of being sloppy while cooking -or having gravy get on their blouse while eating TG dinner.. It's probably a channel on Pornhub.

Rule 34.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (JrojV)

283 197
It would be amusing to see W. T. Sherman walk up and review a line of tranny soy boy recruits from today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 11:53 AM (i9ffA)

Or Patton

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (N39Ws)

284 .@SenTedCruz blasts the NSA over their woke diversity, equity, and inclusion glossary that was uncovered in our @realDailyWire investigation.

"This stuff is nonsense, it is garbage, it is poison. Do you know what it isn’t? National security."

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (RHGPo)

285 President Joe Biden plans to skip U.N. climate talks beginning this week in Dubai

.. because he doesn't ant to be there when the UN delegates start talking about cutting consumption of meat to get to NetZero goals. It's a sure fire way to lose next year's election.

Posted by: SMOD

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They'll just ban people from being allowed to discuss it.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (ANQN/)

286 Not quite the same. First, men usually only show their chests or at most, butts. Women have to show sexual characteristics, especially boobs, but sometimes full frontal (see Jennifer Lawrence). Second, it is accepted that men are sexually aggressive, while women are at least supposed to be more restrained.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)

They happily took the money when it was offered though. I suspect that in each of their cases the greatest regret is that no one is willing to offer them a few million to show it off anymore.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (GYIa4)

287 250 This pretty young woman in an elegant red dress is glad she wasn't required to have her "cups "runneth over" in order to form and give an opinion on Hamas, and her support for Israel. She is glad to be here for the first time, however.

https://tinyurl.com/4mma4pp6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:05 PM (RSbhh)

How does one keep such a dress clean? I mean, it's so long and always dragging on the ground.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

288 You know that butts and chests are sexual characteristics of men for women. Dic pics are only attractive to homos.

Eh, not really. If they were the same, every beach would be topless.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:11 PM (I/Qkd)

Men aren’t allowed to show their nekkid butt on the beach either. Don’t take my word for it. Ask an ette.

Posted by: Drive by at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (MNhXM)

289 The next batch of 10 hostages are in Red Cross hands. Unless the ceasefire is extended again, I'm betting it won't be since the savages are getting restless, the last batch are due out tomorrow. After that all bets are off and I'm guessing the brutal assault on the savages will begin again. I also believe that hamass is almost out of viable hostages to turn over to the Israeli's.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (2NHgQ)

290 The Incredible Mr. Limpet has joined the Naval task force!
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That was a great movie. Don Knotts was a genius talent.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (wh7vU)

291 They happily took the money when it was offered though. I suspect that in each of their cases the greatest regret is that no one is willing to offer them a few million to show it off anymore.

On that we agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (I/Qkd)

292 The Wilderness Campaign was immensely stupid and the stupidity belongs to Grant. He spent 55k Union soldiers to kill 33k Confederates and gained nothing of real merit for this expense. This is attrition - not genius. This is a sausage grinder. The war and the Boer War was very prescient in what war would be like in the 20th C.
Posted by: Pudhinhead

Grant's men were replaceable. Lee's, not so much.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (JrojV)

293 What bewilders me is that SA has troops in Yemen, and we have SEALS quartered on the SA bases. Why then is Biden letting the Houthi attack US Navy ships?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (jKNps)

294 Looking out my NoVA window and seeing snow flurries.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (N3zMI)

295 They happily took the money when it was offered though. I suspect that in each of their cases the greatest regret is that no one is willing to offer them a few million to show it off anymore.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (GYIa4)
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"I was young and hot and rolling in dough and now the work dried up because it turns out that despite what everyone told me, my only marketable skill was being young and hot and now I resent the lie that it was ever about anything else."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (d04cU)

296 279 puddinhead. More should study the boer war. For sure it foreshadowed a dark century of warfare.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (f+lVG)

297 Men aren’t allowed to show their nekkid butt on the beach either. Don’t take my word for it. Ask an ette.

Something for which we can all be grateful.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (I/Qkd)

298 Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 12:07 PM (2NHgQ)

Yes; It would be. I miss Oregon Muse. What a nice and interesting and smart man. The model looks a little to me like the actress who played Wednesday Adams but as a grownup. Winona Ryder was it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (RSbhh)

299 I also believe that hamass is almost out of viable hostages to turn over to the Israeli's.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (2NHgQ)

I agree on that... I have the feeling they are either dead or in terrible shape from torture and worse

Posted by: It's me donna at November 28, 2023 12:16 PM (bs+z0)

300 Grant's men were replaceable. Lee's, not so much.

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I like this post so much.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 28, 2023 12:16 PM (ANQN/)

301 Before I get willowed: RE Lee was a good but not great general. Great on the defensive as Puddinhead pointed out (Fredericksburg and Cold Harbor come to mind)… but he was shaky at best on offense (Gettysburg campaign was a debacle) and his strategery was questionable. His decisions to twice pursue offensives into northern territory were mistakes and a rash use of his limited manpower reserves…. Longstreet was right at Gettysburg on day 2…. The army of northern Virginia could only be successful long term fighting aggressively defensive…. Grant was a much better strategist and knew the “bloody calculus”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 28, 2023 12:16 PM (F2dmq)

302 When I was single, I was in favor of sexually aggressive women.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:12 PM (DmY+C)

Sadly, they never seemed in favor of me... although my wife tells me that women flirt with me all the time but I suspect she's just being nice.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:16 PM (GYIa4)

303 Sadly, they never seemed in favor of me... although my wife tells me that women flirt with me all the time but I suspect she's just being nice.

A married man is apparently an aphrodisiac for many women.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:17 PM (I/Qkd)

304 How does one keep such a dress clean? I mean, it's so long and always dragging on the ground.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

One has people for that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:17 PM (GYIa4)

305 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

Probably wears stiletto type heels.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2023 12:18 PM (RSbhh)

306 296 279 puddinhead. More should study the boer war. For sure it foreshadowed a dark century of warfare.
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Well, the Brits had barbed wire and machine guns and hostages.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 12:18 PM (wh7vU)

307 286 Not quite the same. First, men usually only show their chests or at most, butts. Women have to show sexual characteristics, especially boobs, but sometimes full frontal (see Jennifer Lawrence). Second, it is accepted that men are sexually aggressive, while women are at least supposed to be more restrained.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)

They happily took the money when it was offered though. I suspect that in each of their cases the greatest regret is that no one is willing to offer them a few million to show it off anymore.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (GYIa4)
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This. That was my point. I'm not saying that Archimedes doesn't also have a general point, but the bottom line is that sex appeal was freely and even eagerly sold by consenting adults at a time when that sex appeal had substantial value, and usually the only value. Women tend to later bitch and moan about it, almost as if they are jealous of younger women now getting the money and attention they used to get. Men don't do that.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

308 Grant's men were replaceable. Lee's, not so much.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (JrojV)

So, you're saying that southern men are just better.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:18 PM (GYIa4)

309 Before I get willowed: RE Lee was a good but not great general. Great on the defensive as Puddinhead pointed out (Fredericksburg and Cold Harbor come to mind)… but he was shaky at best on offense (Gettysburg campaign was a debacle) and his strategery was questionable. His decisions to twice pursue offensives into northern territory were mistakes and a rash use of his limited manpower reserves…. Longstreet was right at Gettysburg on day 2…. The army of northern Virginia could only be successful long term fighting aggressively defensive…. Grant was a much better strategist and knew the “bloody calculus”

Agree with almost all of that. Lee was, IMHO, a great general fighting an almost unwinnable war.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:19 PM (I/Qkd)

310
Sadly, they never seemed in favor of me... although my wife tells me that women flirt with me all the time but I suspect she's just being nice.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:16 PM

Unless is was blatantly obvious back in the day I was oblivious to a woman hitting on me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 12:19 PM (bqazj)

311 Why then is Biden letting the Houthi attack US Navy ships?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (jKNps)

Hunter is on the Board of Houthi Pirates Ltd.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:19 PM (GYIa4)

312 The best offense is a good defense

Posted by: Mangled Idiom at November 28, 2023 12:19 PM (d04cU)

313 Statement out on Twitter from Benny Gantz today (basically 2nd most powerful politician in Israel:

"After the cease-fire, fire will be renewed. The entire War Cabinet is united in this position. There is no other option.
We are preparing for the next stages of the war, and for expanding the maneuver including the Gaza Strip. There will be no point that will be a City of Refuge for terrorists and Hamas leaders."

I'm not sure many western politicians or leaders are listening. They should be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (i9ffA)

314 308 Grant's men were replaceable. Lee's, not so much.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (JrojV)

So, you're saying that southern men are just better.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:18 PM (GYIa4)

Fewer and no food supply. The South was dependent on Northern food imports as they concentrated heavily on cash crops. So beyond having a relatively smaller population, there was really only so far they could go on mobilization without starving the population.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (eYoxG)

315 Grant's men were replaceable. Lee's, not so much.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 12:14 PM (JrojV)

So, you're saying that southern men are just better.

No, just scarcer.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (I/Qkd)

316 230 Meh, wait until she's older and has high miles and nobody wants to see her boobs any more. Then she'll join the chorus of faded starlets bitching and whining about how bad and sexist it was to cash big checks for flaunting their assets. Boo hoo.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Jennifer Love Hewitt has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (JrojV)

Objection! JLH had a MUCH better rack in her prime than Selena Gomez!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

317 "I was young and hot and rolling in dough and now the work dried up because it turns out that despite what everyone told me, my only marketable skill was being young and hot and now I resent the lie that it was ever about anything else."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (d04cU)

I could see the point in saying "had I known I was making all that money just because I was young and hot I'd have saved more of it".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:21 PM (GYIa4)

318 CBD, I was a Netanyahu supporter for a long time - especially because I thought his political enemies were much worse. You're right, however. Netanyahu is asshoe.

His late brother would be rolling in his grave if he saw what was happening now. Benjamin is cheapening his sacrifice.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 28, 2023 12:21 PM (O8JAW)

319 Speaking of Hunter, he is trying to set conditions for agreeing to abide by the Congressional subpoena. In the end, 50 Quatloos says no way he appears.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:21 PM (2296J)

320 I could see the point in saying "had I known I was making all that money just because I was young and hot I'd have saved more of it".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:21 PM (GYIa4)
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But that's not what they say. Nowadays they tend to go for the, "it's wrong" thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 12:22 PM (d04cU)

321 But that's not what they say. Nowadays they tend to go for the, "it's wrong" thing.

Both can be true.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:22 PM (I/Qkd)

322 After the cease-fire, fire will be renewed. The entire War Cabinet is united in this position. There is no other option.
We are preparing for the next stages of the war, and for expanding the maneuver including the Gaza Strip. There will be no point that will be a City of Refuge for terrorists and Hamas leaders."

I'm not sure many western politicians or leaders are listening. They should be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM

I hope that's the case. This coexisting with ham ass needs to be done. Fuck every Palestinan too. They support these butchers so to me they are no different than the Germans who supported Hitler when it was convenient. They knew as do these lunatics. Screw them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 12:22 PM (bqazj)

323
This lady is covered in gravy
Submerged though not in the Navy
While I am no nutter
I'd rather it's butter
And she's Indian all covered in ghee!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 12:22 PM (QzZeQ)

324 Objection! JLH had a MUCH better rack in her prime than Selena Gomez!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

Those puppies were outstanding.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 28, 2023 12:23 PM (sUTkI)

325 I believe the bullshit about Netanyahu the same way I believe the BS about Trump.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at November 28, 2023 12:24 PM (QY+6a)

326 Meh, wait until she's older and has high miles and nobody wants to see her boobs any more. Then she'll join the chorus of faded starlets bitching and whining about how bad and sexist it was to cash big checks for flaunting their assets. Boo hoo.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Jennifer Love Hewitt has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2023 11:59 AM (JrojV)

Objection! JLH had a MUCH better rack in her prime than Selena Gomez!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

But, she never showed the goods...and now it''s too late.

Another Hollywood tragedy.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 12:24 PM (QzZeQ)

327 226 for sure Jackson and Longstreet were great generals. They were not just good they were great, historically great.

The problem is, they were great corps commanders. Everyone knows the Peter principal, right?

Jackson was incapable of independent command, because he kept charging his own subordinate generals with insubordination. If he stayed in command, the courts would be going 24 hours a day. Same with Longstreet when he went to Chickamaugua he got involved in politics trying to get rid of the commanding general. He also had a thing against Lee his record is there for everyone to see he became the most infamous formal confederate in the south for a reason.

Yeah about Albert Johnson but like you said he got killed right at the beginning a dead general is not gonna help you too much

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:24 PM (f+lVG)

328 JLH never did anything for me. You could tell it took a LOT of makeup to maker her presentable.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (I/Qkd)

329
A married man is apparently an aphrodisiac for many women.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:17 PM (I/Qkd)

A married rich man even more so.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (l3Uxg)

330 Who do you think is covering Bibi's ass and Israel right now? The US, UK, France, Germany, etc. Israel is a tiny country in the middle of a hostile territory. As for " always in pursuit of power", LOL, isn't that what most men want.

Posted by: sidney at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (Uy/WF)

331 Objection! JLH had a MUCH better rack in her prime than Selena Gomez!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

But, she never showed the goods...and now it''s too late.

Another Hollywood tragedy.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 12:24 PM (QzZeQ)

A moment of silence...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (VwHCD)

332 Nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (GYIa4)

333 I love everyone’s opinion I hope I don’t come off as thinking I’m the only one that knows the answers, but I have to be honest, surprised that so many hold Lee and such lowest steam, that’s the opposite of Americans over the last 150 or so years that is a recent phenomenon and I still am trying to see the actual argument

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (f+lVG)

334 But, she never showed the goods...and now it''s too late.

Another Hollywood tragedy.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 28, 2023 12:24 PM (QzZeQ)

There IS something to be said for mystery that is never satisfied. The reality may not hold up to the fantasy.

Plus, Dave Matthews.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (zZu0s)

335 I'm just glad the good guys won and settled that whole 10th Amendment silliness once and for all.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 28, 2023 12:26 PM (ANQN/)

336 flaunting their assets.

Remove the t.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 28, 2023 12:26 PM (k5OSW)

337 I believe the bullshit about Netanyahu the same way I believe the BS about Trump.
Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at November 28, 2023 12:24 PM (QY+6a)
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Unlike you, I pretty much doubt every politico these days. It's propaganda coming from all sides.

John Eastman says he can't believe how obvious the lies are, and how politicians lie so thoroughly. But I can.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:26 PM (jKNps)

338 Speaking of Hunter, he is trying to set conditions for agreeing to abide by the Congressional subpoena. In the end, 50 Quatloos says no way he appears.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2023 12:21 PM (2296J)

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If he insists, then he didn't kill himself the evening before.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 28, 2023 12:27 PM (rATg1)

339 Some wag, a former CSA officer, said the Confederate Army died from West Point. He was probably right, tactics on the defensive side (build works, see Lee refered to as Ace of Spades) coupled with offensive tactics with no logistics or supply. One of the most feared Confederate officers was Forrest who didn't go by the book and may have had trouble reading it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 28, 2023 12:27 PM (0EOe9)

340 Townhall:

Family of the First American Released by Hamas Bought Hunter Biden's Art

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 28, 2023 12:27 PM (S4Tgw)

341 317 "I was young and hot and rolling in dough and now the work dried up because it turns out that despite what everyone told me, my only marketable skill was being young and hot and now I resent the lie that it was ever about anything else."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 28, 2023 12:15 PM (d04cU)

I could see the point in saying "had I known I was making all that money just because I was young and hot I'd have saved more of it".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 28, 2023 12:21 PM (GYIa4)
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Some of the aging starlets are still making movies, albeit low budget and usually rom-coms. They tend to be ideal romantic leads in these movies. Still attractive but too attractive, still reasonably young but not too young. All designed to attract a certain female demographic that wants to see a woman that they can squint and look at sideways and identify with get the usually disproportionately-attractive male stud.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 12:27 PM (iFTx/)

342 329
A married man is apparently an aphrodisiac for many women.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:17 PM (I/Qkd)

A married rich man even more so.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (l3Uxg)

*smiles*

Posted by: Henry Kissinger at November 28, 2023 12:27 PM (O8JAW)

343 Agree with almost all of that. Lee was, IMHO, a great general fighting an almost unwinnable war.
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The war was a simple replay of the American Revolution. For the South to win it needed the British Navy to swing in. The Brits were very dependent on cotton and the thing that killed that avenue of defense was Egypt having a bumper crop of cotton in 1863. It mattered not what happened at Gettysburg. The South was doomed once the Brits decided they didn't need to get involved. Oddly, since the Fed Govt ran on Tariffs the US Navy was largely financed by tariffs on cotton. Cotton was literally King as taxable exports go. Then there were the Northern textile mills that wanted cheap cotton.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 12:28 PM (ntk8v)

344 336 flaunting their assets.

Remove the t.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Mor

I was seriously rereading flauning. Took me a sec but I eventually got there. Duh.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 28, 2023 12:28 PM (l3Uxg)

345 Townhall:

Family of the First American Released by Hamas Bought Hunter Biden's Art

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

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Ha. The thing we were discussing here four or five days ago?

Way to keep up, Townhall.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 28, 2023 12:28 PM (ANQN/)

346 Unless is was blatantly obvious back in the day I was oblivious to a woman hitting on me.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 28, 2023 12:19 PM (bqazj)

Dude sitting at table minding own business, watching the game, drinking a beer.
Girl walks by, glances in his direction for a fraction of a second.
Dude sips his beer, continues watching the game.
Girl to her girlfriends later: "Oh my GAWD, I practically threw myself at him! Men are, like, soooooo DUMB!"

Posted by: How this typically plays out at November 28, 2023 12:30 PM (r/JV0)

347 If the confederates had any general, who could actually command independently other than Lee, it would probably be Jubal Early. He came very close to DC. Even Abraham Lincoln came out to the parapets to see what was going on.

Early was a great general. Lee called him his “bad old man”, early, was a big-time Cussler and kind of a $$$$.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:30 PM (f+lVG)

348 A married man is apparently an aphrodisiac for many women.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:17 PM (I/Qkd)

I stopped wearing a wedding ring within 2 weeks of getting married. I was coming down a ladder and a nail sticking out of a 2X4 wall stud managed to slip under my ring just as I was going to hop off the ladder. I got lucky, it could have ripped my finger off, and I said screw this, no more ring. I told the wife it was better that way, because the ring is a chick magnet anyway. She's smart, and agreed. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2023 12:30 PM (VwHCD)

349 It shouldn't be surprising to hear that world leaders are pressuring Netanyahu to not go after the leaders of Hamas. Imagine if people thought it was okay to go after other world leaders for the stupid things they do. Such as flooding Europe with Middle Easterners and Africans. Netanyahu can't be allowed to set any precedents.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 28, 2023 12:31 PM (5g90c)

350 303 Sadly, they never seemed in favor of me... although my wife tells me that women flirt with me all the time but I suspect she's just being nice.

A married man is apparently an aphrodisiac for many women.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2023 12:17 PM (I/Qkd)
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The forbidden fruit. The easiest way to attract hot ladies is to be seen in the company of other hot ladies.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2023 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

351 One of the most feared Confederate officers was Forrest who didn't go by the book and may have had trouble reading it.
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Forrest was a Rock Star. I'm surprised Hollywood has never depicted him. His story is almost unbelievable.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 12:31 PM (ntk8v)

352 333 I love everyone’s opinion I hope I don’t come off as thinking I’m the only one that knows the answers, but I have to be honest, surprised that so many hold Lee and such lowest steam, that’s the opposite of Americans over the last 150 or so years that is a recent phenomenon and I still am trying to see the actual argument
Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:25 PM (f+lVG)

Well for one, his starting position did set him up to look good. The officer corps of the US largely went to the South.

Secondly, there was no plan for victory. His approach was mixed. While I think a defensively focused strategy would have failed for economic reasons, he didn't stick with either a quick offensive to pursue a quick resolution(usually the best option with superior leadership and an early but diminishing advantage) or a war of minimizing losses and waiting for an enemy catastrophe. Alexander the Great's method was the lightning offensive, and Hannibal essentially pursued something similar with clever diplomacy to come close. Both faced economically superior enemies.

Fabius stalled Hannibal out.

The US has had some clever cavalry commanders but generally not someone completely exceptional

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 28, 2023 12:32 PM (eYoxG)

353 This take is weak. He's getting hostages right now. You'll be proven right if he doesn't resume within a week or so and wipe out Hamas. Getting the leaders could take a while, so that might come after he is out of office. If he's one thing, he is not stupid, and claiming he's sacrificing Israel for some nebulous globalism or deep-statism or whatever seems way, way off. Get back to me on January 1 if there is still a cease fire then, and I'll say you're right.

Posted by: Lex at November 28, 2023 12:33 PM (fMN7A)

354 I stopped wearing a wedding ring within 2 weeks of getting married. I was coming down a ladder and a nail sticking out of a 2X4 wall stud managed to slip under my ring just as I was going to hop off the ladder. I got lucky, it could have ripped my finger off, and I said screw this, no more ring. I told the wife it was better that way, because the ring is a chick magnet anyway. She's smart, and agreed. lol
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Rings are snag hazards. I used to have a picture in my office of six fingers skinned by rings and machinery. Never liked wearing them.

Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 28, 2023 12:33 PM (ntk8v)

355 Forest was a joke that’s why he was never promoted. He was good at what he did. No question about that don’t misunderstand me, but there are people that say what if he was promoted what if he commanded the CSA? Yeah, no chance and there was a reason for that.

Look I love this discussion I’m not trying to shut anyone down. But I find it amazing that people actually discount Lee, they actually underrate him. That is the opposite of Lee over the last 150 years that is a recent thing and I and real historians, the historians this country, the guys that are Civil War history department heads at major universities believe.

Yeah, I don’t trust university profs either, but I’m talking about people I’ve watched and listen to and talked to over decades. These are the people the left is trying to cancel not the people canceling others lol in fact, the hate Civil War history, particularly military Civil War history all the top military Civil War historians And also some with Grant, and so would I by the way.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:35 PM (f+lVG)

356 But the frustrating part to me is that we people sitting at our computers in 2023 I think we might know something about Civil War tactics that Lee did not. That does bother me. I will admit that it shows an incredible amount of hubris even though I don’t think the people mean it that way.

In the last 40 or 50 years, a lot of people have been impacted by the book the killer angels in the movie Gettysburg. I personally loved that book the killer angels, and I think everyone should read it. The writer was Michael Sherrer. He was an author he was not Historian in any way. he based his fictional novel on the writings of Longstreet a man who had been disowned in the South after the war.

And for sure, Longstreet was a great general, but he had about 30 IQ points fewer than Lee and any historian worth of salt. Will tell you that’s the case.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:38 PM (f+lVG)

357 Rings are snag hazards. I used to have a picture in my office of six fingers skinned by rings and machinery. Never liked wearing them.

Posted by: Pudhinhead

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They can also get you in a lot of trouble around batteries and other sources of electricity.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 28, 2023 12:39 PM (ANQN/)

358 355
Look I love this discussion I’m not trying to shut anyone down. But I find it amazing that people actually discount Lee, they actually underrate him. That is the opposite of Lee over the last 150 years that is a recent thing and I and real historians, the historians this country, the guys that are Civil War history department heads at major universities believe.

Yeah, I don’t trust university profs either, but I’m talking about people I’ve watched and listen to and talked to over decades. These are the people the left is trying to cancel not the people canceling others lol in fact, the hate Civil War history, particularly military Civil War history all the top military Civil War historians And also some with Grant, and so would I by the way.
Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:35 PM (f+lVG)

I think historically the US has overrated its Civil War officers on both sides, as well as its WW1 and WW2 officers to a lesser degree(usually their reputation isn't as inflated). Possibly due to the short history, but the US hasn't in my view produced one of the historically great generals.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 28, 2023 12:40 PM (eYoxG)

359 Another problem with the CSA was the "cavalier class", planters with political influence and no military experience given field grade ranks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 28, 2023 12:41 PM (0EOe9)

360 Michael Sharaa, sorry typo there.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:42 PM (f+lVG)

361 @354 I stopped wearing a wedding ring within 2 weeks of getting married. I was coming down a ladder and a nail sticking out of a 2X4 wall stud managed to slip under my ring just as I was going to hop off the ladder.

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I stopped wearing my wedding ring for a similar safety reason. When I was selling chemicals to industrial plants, there were a LOT of things for a ring to get snagged on. (I also needed that finger for when I was playing banjo and guitar). Tried to 'splain that to the then-wife, but she always thought there were 'other reasons' for not wearing it. Turned out that was a wee bit of projection on her part, but that's another story for another time. I still don't wear rings, and I'm divorced now, so ...

Posted by: Dr_No at November 28, 2023 12:46 PM (ayRl+)

362 358, it is interesting that generals were revered and hated from the Revolution, Civil War and WW2. Everyone had an opinion.

But since that time, the public doesn’t give a darn about generals. Norman schwarzkopf had his moment and that is about it. We are talking 80 years of nothing.

Posted by: Quint at November 28, 2023 12:47 PM (f+lVG)

363 Bri g back conscription, both genders.

Posted by: Richard Sean McEnroe at November 28, 2023 03:59 PM (qz889)

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