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Poll: Biden Lags Against All Major Republican Presidential Contenders
A Fox News poll. I don't trust Fox News polls... but they tend to lean Democratic, so maybe this is better news than it appears.
A new national poll released Wednesday showed President Biden trailing all three lead GOP presidential candidates: former President Donald Trump, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. According to the survey, conducted this month by Marquette Law School, Trump has an advantage of 52% to 48% over Biden among registered voters, while DeSantis holds a 51% to 49% advantage in a head-to-head matchup with the president. And Haley, who also previously served as governor of South Carolina, holds a 55% to 45% edge over Biden, the largest lead among Republican candidates. The survey showed that Trump's edge over Biden has grown considerably since July, when Marquette's poll showed the pair tied at 50%. It further showed DeSantis' lead over Biden has remained consistent in that same time span. And while all three of the top Republican candidates lead Biden, Trump is the only one who leads among Independent voters. Haley, meanwhile, has the largest support among Democrat voters compared to Trump and DeSantis.You don't say.
Fox News's poll also claims that Trump would beat the various Democrats who would likely run in Biden's place.
Trump has an edge of 54% to 46% over Biden among independents. Biden leads DeSantis 53% to 47% and Haley 51% to 49% among Independents. Get the latest updates from the 2024 campaign trail, exclusive interviews and more at our Fox News Digital election hub. At the same time, Haley draws the support of 15% of Democrat voters, while Trump gets 11% and DeSantis gets 8%. In addition, the Marquette poll showed Trump, for the first time this year, has taken a lead among registered voters who report being reluctant to choose either him or Biden. Trump leads Biden in that category by a margin of 53% to 47%, a big shift from Biden's 55% to 42% lead as recently as September.
The most recent poll comes as the White House continues to claim it is not concerned about polling, which continues to show Biden's approval rating falling and his 2024 prospects waning.
The same poll found that Trump leads Vice President Kamala Harris 50% to 45%, California Gov. Gavin Newsom 49% to 45%, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer 48% to 46% and outgoing Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) 47% to 46% in hypothetical head-to-head matchups.They didn't bother polling to see if DeSantis would beat them as well. I assume he would. It should be noted that these polls do not include third party candidates like RFK Jr., who is expected to draw heavily from Trump, due to Trump's position on the vaccine as well as clinging to the choices he made to lock the country down. Nikki Haley just met with Wall Street titans, including super-woke DEI/ESG champion Larry Fink of Black Rock, and the former head of Goldman Sachs. Another noted bastion of conservative values. So she has that going for her, which is nice.
Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley met with several Wall Street executives in a series of events Tuesday in her bid to be the Republican nominee for president, according to the Financial Times. Haley attended a small meet-and-greet breakfast in New York where CEO of BlackRock Larry Fink was in attendance, followed by a fundraiser later in the day co-hosted by Gary Cohn, former president of Goldman Sachs, according to the FT. BlackRock has been criticized by conservatives in recent years for its adoption and promotion of Environment, Social and Corporate Governance (ESG) policies, which aim to invest in companies based on their commitment to social and environmental causes.I'm wondering when Nikki Haley will begin paying a price for demanding that the government get its paws on the names of anyone who wants to speak publicly:
DeSantis responds to Nikki Haley’s call to verify Americans’ social media accounts:
— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) November 15, 2023
“Forcing disclosure of names and registration is what China has done … What it would do, I think, is open the door for a social credit system.”pic.twitter.com/bVzAg1GDrk
A day in the life of Biden: pic.twitter.com/3pEwavcZVA
— AlphaFo𝕏 (@Alphafox7November 11, 2023
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rd at November 17, 2023 02:10 PM (74TNp)
Posted by: fd at November 17, 2023 02:10 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: rd at November 17, 2023 02:11 PM (74TNp)
If he increases that margin of victory slightly in '24 that just means Biden is declared to have 90 or 100M votes instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:12 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:12 PM (DRSnL)
So going in with that mindset -- what's the goal here? Get Biden to drop out? Is there even still time for that?
Get R's to rally behind Trump to then try to fuck him / us later?
Some unknown internecine squabble going on behind the scenes?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 17, 2023 02:13 PM (mj0Qp)
Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2023 02:13 PM (dCxaZ)
I do not give a sh*t that anonymous people are mean to Princess Nikki in her damn twitter feed. If free speech is too scary Nikki get off the damn internet.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:13 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Hard to get into the right comment thread sometimes at November 17, 2023 02:13 PM (CjGGv)
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:14 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: rd at November 17, 2023 02:14 PM (74TNp)
Posted by: arminius at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (Dpgtk)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (yFGdz)
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (sm6Pk)
RFK Jr doesn't change the outcome. So far, polling indicates he will draw equally from BOTH parties.
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (mnwUA)
Posted by: Cheap Trick at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:16 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 17, 2023 02:16 PM (Y2tls)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (ScR16)
So going in with that mindset -- what's the goal here? Get Biden to drop out? Is there even still time for that?
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Plenty of time to replace Joe. Ask Bob Toricelli.
Posted by: rd at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (74TNp)
RFK Jr doesn't change the outcome. So far, polling indicates he will draw equally from BOTH parties.
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (mnwUA)
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You're speaking against the NARRATIVE!
You ARE NOT OF THE BODY!
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (krQz2)
First Ladies wearing dresses
First Ladies wearing sofas & curtains
Posted by: Adriane the Oh God, Not Christmas Carols This Early Critic . . . at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (4Winp)
Posted by: Nikki After Dark at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (CjGGv)
--Vote counters in Philadelphia, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Madison and Houston
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (P4Pk9)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 17, 2023 02:16 PM (Y2tls)
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This is DC. Bullshit also talks... a lot.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:18 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 02:18 PM (aD39U)
First Ladies wearing dresses
First Ladies wearing sofas & curtains
Posted by: Adriane the Oh God, Not Christmas Carols This Early Critic . . . at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (4Winp)
First "Ladies" wearing fake breasts and crotch gaffs.
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 02:18 PM (sm6Pk)
Can verify. This one made head lopsided, and now I have to fix it with a belt sander.
Posted by: right tool for the right rimjob at November 17, 2023 02:19 PM (CjGGv)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 17, 2023 02:17 PM (ScR16)
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4000 holes in the Times top story.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:19 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Tom C at November 17, 2023 02:20 PM (xrmAY)
Make your time.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 02:18 PM (aD39U)
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Somebody set us up a bomb.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:20 PM (krQz2)
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Fat-finger syndrome produces pretty funny stuff sometimes.
'unimaginable fecal disater'? 'unmanageable fiscal disaster'?
Just funnin' Huck. I do that stuff all of the time.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2023 02:20 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Dr. Renee Richardson at November 17, 2023 02:20 PM (4Winp)
They will substantially increase the ballot printing order in battleground states. Some print shop, somewhere, is celebrating.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (yFGdz)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (JrojV)
Democracy dies when we don't know who Catturd is.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (eYoxG)
I never believed the stories until I saw that one vid of xer bounding down the steps and that thing between her legs clearly was swinging along with her motion.
I don't know that xe is XY, perhaps it is some kind of prosthetic
Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (dCxaZ)
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Fat-finger syndrome produces pretty funny stuff sometimes.
'unimaginable fecal disater'? 'unmanageable fiscal disaster'?
Just funnin' Huck. I do that stuff all of the time.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2023 02:20 PM (XeU6L)
I'm just here for the ficus.
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (z+ik4)
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I'm missing two keys on my keyboard, and I'm just too lazy to proof before posting, much less replace my keyboard!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:22 PM (yFGdz)
I assume that refers to the algorithm used to promote or suppress content. This is also how individual news feed, product recommendations, search results, etc. are created.
THIS IS A GOOD IDEA and should not be thrown out with her stupid idea of banning anonymity.
I have been saying this for about over a decade - big tech propaganda monopolies have to be busted, and the way to do it is to make the platforms allow an interface where third parties can insert their own algorithm so people can tailor and customize the feed for the individual. Imagine a Christian feed that filters out all the perversions, for example.
This would be similar to Judge Greene forcing AT&T to allow 3rd party access for long distance service.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:22 PM (OgoSU)
Posted by: Orson at November 17, 2023 02:22 PM (dIske)
Posted by: JT at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (T4tVD)
At least 1/3 of the GOP Base would sit home before voting for her, including me. It's better to have a 2nd term of Biden than a resurrection of the GOPe Neocons.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (zdYK9)
Posted by: Axeman
Where does this line come from?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (JrojV)
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https://youtu.be/nJNM377JlIg?si=llXPKn4L30EJwW5B
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (JrojV)
https://ytube.io/3mry
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (aD39U)
Maersk, the huge container shipping company is laying off people. Lots of trucking companies are in bad shape, and the have no loads to ship.
Lots of indications that we are headed into a recession in just a few months.
1. Time to Get Our Individual Houses in Order.
2. A Recession is coming in months.
Posted by: rd at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (FwKiu)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (aD39U)
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I'm missing two keys on my keyboard, and I'm just too lazy to proof before posting, much less replace my keyboard!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:22 PM (yFGdz)
"F" and "U"? Because you wore them out?
Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (z+ik4)
RFK Jr doesn't change the outcome. So far, polling indicates he will draw equally from BOTH parties.
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2023 02:15 PM
You're forgetting that Trump hasn't given him a nickname yet. I like 'Little Raspy Rob' myself.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (enJYY)
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Uhhh, that's not an "edge." An "edge" is 51-49 or similar. This spread is a scinch more than an "edge."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (yFGdz)
I think the first half of that (the big, beautiful vaccine that saved a gazillion lives portion) is a fair criticism.
But Trump didn't lock the country down, as was demonstrated by DeSantis, Noem, Bill Lee and eventually others.
Lockdown decisions were mainly the result of state and local governments. Were they enabled by the SoE and Trump's Head of the CDC? Yes.
But I don't think it is reasonable to say "Trump locked down the country".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (gmL84)
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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Paging Barry McGuire, paging Barry McGuire...
Posted by: He was just here yesterday... at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (XeU6L)
So she has that going for her, which is nice.
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So she's taken on the mantle of the Bushes. She'll do as well as Jeb! did.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (d04cU)
True dedication.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2023 02:25 PM (V8he0)
1. Time to Get Our Individual Houses in Order.
2. A Recession is coming in months.
Q2 24 to Q2 25 are gonna be brutal, apparently.
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2023 02:25 PM (mnwUA)
The FNM is starting to run articles on how not being able to afford as much food is GOOD for you.
Now...this isn't entirely wrong for many Americans but...how about that Biden-economy huh?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:25 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (z+ik4)
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haha! Nope, "I" and "E"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:25 PM (yFGdz)
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (/6GbT)
My expectation as well, with Kennedy given as the excuse.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:25 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 02:26 PM (rJ48h)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 17, 2023 02:26 PM (BdMk6)
A former coworker reached out to me on linkedin because she needs a job. I noticed that a significant portion of my links now have that "open to work" hashtag.
Isn't the Biden-economy grand?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:26 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Axeman
Where does this line come from?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:21 PM (JrojV)
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Bad translation of a Japanese video game.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:26 PM (ScR16)
Insofar as public polling outfits have any value at all at any point, there is less than no value to it this far out. As usual, I assume this is polling for the purpose of moving opinion or changing behavior, not polling for the purpose of measuring anything. The parties do that for themselves for a reason.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:27 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican at November 17, 2023 02:27 PM (YRK4R)
Posted by: Not a mysoginist at November 17, 2023 02:27 PM (FjlUt)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:27 PM (JrojV)
Step 1: Get your name legally changed to Amanda Huginkiss
Step 2: Post crap on social media
Step 3: Taunt people that you can post with a fake name
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:27 PM (XqcwY)
Lockdown decisions were mainly the result of state and local governments. Were they enabled by the SoE and Trump's Head of the CDC? Yes.
But I don't think it is reasonable to say "Trump locked down the country".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (gmL84)
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You forgot "two weeks to flatten the curve", with PDJT standing there nodding as Dr. Mengele-Fauci said it.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (yFGdz)
Advertisers are pulling back already. Never a sign of a vibrant girthy expansion.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (gmL84)
Hello my name is...uh...Sally.
Yes do not fear I will do the needful for you.
Posted by: Calling "American based customer service" at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (XqcwY)
Well the deep state and FNM would probably be ok with having a uniparty member with R rather than D affiliation for a while so don't hold your breath Ace. Perhaps Nikki will pay a price in the primaries; but I have no feel for how many LIVs or big gub'mint cheerleaders will cast ballots.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (3cGpq)
Rob Reiner
@robreiner
If you vote for anyone but Joe Biden, you are voting to destroy American Democracy.
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Any questions?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (B1FKF)
Isn't the Biden-economy grand?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:26 PM (XqcwY)
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It's gonna suck for me when the time comes. I work in high tech, and tech sector layoffs are *not* over. I think they've probably barely begun. If they hit me this time around - I put the odds at 50/50 right now - I am resigned to and prepared for it to take a year to find reliable work again.
Seriously, in general, if you don't have your emergency fund shored up, you should work on it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (XqcwY)
You know who else used real names?????
Posted by: Archer at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (gmo/4)
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All I'll say about Nikki Haley is, no matter how low your opinion of her is, it's probably not low enough.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (dGCAG)
What is the stat? The majority of Americans have less then a thousand dollars in savings?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (/6GbT)
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Those odds will be like Cornpop to Joe.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Hard to get into the right comment thread sometimes at November 17, 2023 02:13 PM (CjGGv)
Ads?
Posted by: AdBlocker Plus at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (h4nev)
To leave the country
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (XqcwY)
I should have read the ellipsis. For a fraction of a second, I was REALLY mad at you.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:31 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: rd at November 17, 2023 02:23 PM (FwKiu)
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Are we not already in a recession?
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:31 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (dGCAG)
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I have had to lower it a couple of times.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:31 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (XqcwY)
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Yes. Some of them can't because they're truly poor. I'd guess - but it's nothing more than that - that it's about a quarter of people or so who genuinely cannot save because they're actually broke. The second qartile or the third quintile, though, could - and I hope they see which way the wind is blowing and are working on it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (d04cU)
The bitch set us all up.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (yFGdz)
What is the stat? The majority of Americans have less then a thousand dollars in savings?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (XqcwY)
Internet says 36% with no savings, +19% with less than $1000 as of a 2022 study, so 55%.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Archer at November 17, 2023 02:29 PM (gmo/4)
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Almost everybody?
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:31 PM (DRSnL)
Factor in inflation and we've been negative for two years. Take out deficit spending and it's been four.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (aD39U)
BTW, what happened to our commenter ...? Seems like he hasn't been around much lately.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Orson at November 17, 2023 02:22 PM (dIske)
I pay attention to the news that drops on Thursdays. News for
Fr.iday is supposed to die over the weekend but news on Thursday is supposed to suck all the air out of the room on Friday by being as infuriating or exciting as possible, obsess the audience for Friday be the fodder for heated and vocal Sunday programs and be outed as not important on Monday - hence filling the need for new content for FOUR FREAKIN' DAYS
If you want something ground into the brains of the listenership, make it a big and infuriating news item on a Thursday, it has four days of coverage.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2023 02:33 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Divide by Zero
I understand that Bud Lite dropped one of their 'influencers'.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2023 02:33 PM (bBdPQ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (yFGdz)
The bitch goes by the nickname DoD
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2023 02:33 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2023 02:33 PM (IG4Id)
Not original with me, and I hope it catches on. That would be fetch.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 17, 2023 02:33 PM (YRK4R)
Yes. Maybe the point was that it will get worse in the coming months, of which I have no doubt.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (V8he0)
whatever did happen to the commenter known as ellipsis?
Posted by: kallisto
He missed a period.
Don't quote me though.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (bBdPQ)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (3cGpq)
I get the impression they're working on her image in corporate media, so when you see those gentle rises in her poll numbers, after she's been eviscerated by Vivek, it's like reality doesn't exist to huge swaths of people.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (dCxaZ)
BTW, what happened to our commenter ...? Seems like he hasn't been around much lately.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (JrojV)
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I don't know. I miss him.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:28 PM (yFGdz)
Umm, no I didn't forget it.
I mentioned it.
But there wasn't really an official government edict that closed everything.
Honestly, if Trump's admin did one thing that most enabled the lockdown, it was to send unemployment+bonus checks out to every worker and free government handout no-payback loans to every business.
Otherwise people would have ended lockdowns loooooong before state governments wanted them to.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (gmL84)
Yes, I will never vote for Nikki Haley. Let’s also remember that Nikki removed Confederate statues while Governor. She was first to do this and establishment to her core.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (CCcN5)
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:31 PM (DRSnL)
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Or men?!
Posted by: DEVO at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:35 PM (JrojV)
Yeah, the "if" of a fortified election in '24 is a given, it's the "how" you wonder about.
1. Trump's name stricken from the ballot in key states.
2. Trump in jail.
3. Trump under double-secret indictment by the DOJ.
4. War with Russia making elections just impossible, darn it.
Posted by: Auspex at November 17, 2023 02:35 PM (j4U/Z)
Are we not already in a recession?
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:31 PM
It's a little known fact but the ickiness factor of the advertisements here are a leading economic indicator of the total economy. Toe fungus is bad but pictures of inflamed crotches from jock itch could be right around the corner. Sell, sell, sell.
Posted by: Cliff Clavin at November 17, 2023 02:35 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 17, 2023 02:36 PM (hY3+6)
The FOX poll is one of 5 or so that came out yesterday, and all of them show an obvious drop for Biden since the Hamas terror attack on 10/7.
As I've posted (forgive me for repeating), I suspect the startling drop is due to general unease about Biden as C-in-C in such dangerous times, & 2) American Muslim voters doing a complete 180 on Biden.
Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 17, 2023 02:36 PM (NLIak)
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 02:36 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 17, 2023 02:36 PM (NLIak)
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Not against Generic Democrat!
A powerhouse that cannot be stopped!
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (enJYY)
Bobby Junior
The Special Nephew
The Green Keeper
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (D7oie)
Come 2024 they will be bombarding the airwaves with Hollywood type ads about how dangerous Trump is and how electing any Republican down ballot will help this "monster" destroy democracy etc.
They will be in cahoots with judges and AG's to make sure he is put in prison.
2024 is going to be nothing like we've ever seen before.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (NpAcC)
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whatever did happen to the commenter known as ellipsis?
Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2023 02:32 PM (dCxaZ)
Gonna guess he/she is using one of the newer nics we've seen around here?
We get some people who change them for reasons having nothing to do with wearing out their welcome. I remember seeing the ellipsis when it first appeared, and had the impression this was not a new commenter.
But I have a real don't ask/don't tell about nic changes... unless it's a clear troll. Which of course, we have plenty of.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 17, 2023 02:36 PM (hY3+6)
The poll largely shows Biden performing better than prospective alternative D candidates.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Azjaeger at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (Hic67)
Otherwise people would have ended lockdowns loooooong before state governments wanted them to.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:34 PM (gmL84)
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There's more than that, and Trump needs to speak to it and explain why it won't every be a consideration again (e.g., what he learned and why he was wrong). It is true that he didn't lock anything down directly, but he did two other related things that were deeply damaging.
First, he allowed the lockdown behavior to continue within the FedGov. He should have called the office workers back and ended COVID restrictions (masking, etc. - all of it) on federal property and for aviation and rail. He didn't.
Second, he used his position to lambaste governors who *did* do the right thing and chose to end the madness the earliest.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (d04cU)
It's fake newz anyway.
No Republican will occupy the White House for the foreseeable future, if ever again.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (Q4IgG)
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Muslin voters, OTOH, only need a little bleach to brighten them right up!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (ScR16)
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I hate these historical re-writes. Do you not recall how only "essential businesses" were "allowed to stay open", or how aggressively PDJT went after governors who refused to close, or tried to reopen "too early"? Come on.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (yFGdz)
What is the stat? The majority of Americans have less then a thousand dollars in savings?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2023 02:30 PM (XqcwY)
Rush talked about this a few times. Quoted stats that indicated the a large majority of Americans don't have enough money to cover an immediate $500 emergency.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (BdMk6)
This does not align with my memory in any way. Trump did the whole “10 days to slow the spread” nonsense and then reluctantly extended another 30 days…. But he was jawboning for opening up constantly after that. Governors were the main guilty parties in lockdowns after April 2020. Yeah, there’s lots to criticize Trump on covid but clinging to lockdowns is definitely not one of them….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 02:39 PM (vezcz)
Posted by: Puddinhead
If I ever saw that on the end of my dick I would go to rehab.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:39 PM (OgoSU)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 02:39 PM (k6uu5)
A powerhouse that cannot be stopped!
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (krQz2)
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Perhaps I should change my name to "Generic Democrat" and run for office.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:40 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (yFGdz)
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I do.
I also remember that Trump hoped to be open by Easter, to the opprobrium of the Demedia.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:40 PM (krQz2)
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Wow, Haley leads among people who won't vote for her. Let's give her the nomination right away.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at November 17, 2023 02:41 PM (jleHU)
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I hate these historical re-writes. Do you not recall how only "essential businesses" were "allowed to stay open", or how aggressively PDJT went after governors who refused to close, or tried to reopen "too early"? Come on.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (yFGdz)
I recall Kemp, who wasn't the earliest(Noem never locked down at all irc) and seems to be more of a dispute between those two. Anyone else?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:41 PM (eYoxG)
At one time (80s, I think), youngsters were using "generic" to mean "lame." Like, "That's so generic."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:41 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (padVH)
Posted by: Divide by Zero
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Yes, RFK Jr. is pulling air out of Dems- room.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (MwlPL)
That's the excuse, and the problem.
He could have been Trump The Great, had he said "fuck the second term, I have to do what is right for the country."
Instead he said "It is vital that I get a second term to do all the things I failed at in the first."
He still may be the best man for 2024, but that flaw has to be acknowledged. He did not believe in what he was doing, but he did it anyway.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (OgoSU)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (yFGdz)
It's not a historical rewrite.
I live in Tennessee. We weren't ordered to shutter businesses by the federal government.
We never even missed a church service during the pandemic.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (gmL84)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:41 PM (eYoxG)
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He hammered DeSantis for reopening.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:41 PM (eYoxG)
++++
IIRC, DeSantis (over FL's decision to reopen schools much sooner than most other places).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (d04cU)
A powerhouse that cannot be stopped!
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:37 PM (krQz2)
I keep reading that as [Gerontic] Democrat and thinking, Yeah, that demographic will vote for the Roomba Joe.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (D7oie)
He got a lot of "He's trying to kill people!!" when he suggested being open by Easter.
Trump felt that was not the best time to be known as a person who didn't care who lived or died.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (9Qja5)
Posted by: Cliff Clavin at November 17, 2023 02:35 PM (enJYY)
I swear I have not had a toenail fungus ad since having three of my toenails yanked 8 months ago and it's kinda freaking me out.
Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2023 02:43 PM (z/ifB)
I really wish we could. My gut's telling me otherwise though.
Posted by: Gaff at November 17, 2023 02:43 PM (jPS2y)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:38 PM (yFGdz)
Specifically, he went after Brian Kemp… IMO under the guise of Kemp opening up, but I think Trump saw an enemy in Kemp and took any excuse to go after him. Trump praised Noem for never locking down…. Trump generally knows the sheep from the goats
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 02:43 PM (vezcz)
Posted by: A dude in MI
The Scranton Scrapper.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 17, 2023 02:43 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2023 02:43 PM (yFGdz)
...For decades Democrats have relied on support among black and Hispanic voters, but a meaningful number are abandoning the party. In the next 12 months a stumble by either candidate could determine the race—and thus upend the world...Democracy is in trouble at home. Mr Trump’s claim to have won the election in 2020 was more than a lie: it was a cynical bet that he could manipulate and intimidate his compatriots, and it has worked.
America also faces growing hostility abroad, challenged by Russia in Ukraine, by Iran and its allied militias in the Middle East and by China across the Taiwan Strait and in the South China Sea.
Because maga Republicans have been planning his second term for months, Trump 2 would be more organised than Trump 1. True believers would occupy the most important positions. Mr Trump would be unbound in his pursuit of retribution, economic protectionism and theatrically extravagant deals.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (9Qja5)
Me too.
Posted by: Sodium Cyanide at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (aD39U)
That's the excuse, and the problem.
He could have been Trump The Great, had he said "fuck the second term, I have to do what is right for the country."
Instead he said "It is vital that I get a second term to do all the things I failed at in the first."
He still may be the best man for 2024, but that flaw has to be acknowledged. He did not believe in what he was doing, but he did it anyway.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (OgoSU)
Yes, he went after Kemp and kept touting lockdowns in that spring b/c he didn't want to lose 2020. Nothing "trumped winning" - he had no principles he wouldn't abandon for it in 2020...and he lost anyway, fair or not...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (k6uu5)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:24 PM (gmL84)
Remember, though, it is easier to say that Trump did all the bad things.
All. The. Bad. Things.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (4PZHB)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (ScR16)
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He did.
Sometimes you vote for a guy who's not perfect.
I did in 2016.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (roH4R)
Yup. I got killed in the dot-com bust. Took me 2 1/2 years to get another job in the industry that paid a professional salary. If it happens again, I'm screwed because I'm 20 years older than I was then.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 02:39 PM (vezcz)
What I remember is that every time he opened his mouth, the flood of distortion was applied to his every utterance, and they effectively kept him from being able to lead in any meaningful way.
So yeah, after initially saying "we'll be open by Easter," and then having the whole of corporate media and online chatter saying he was telling people to drink bleach or whatever, he was effectively silenced except to be a cheerleader in chief.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:45 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (JCZqz)
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Sounds like a great reason to keep on keepin' on with Biden!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:45 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:41 PM (eYoxG)
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IIRC, DeSantis (over FL's decision to reopen schools much sooner than most other places).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (d04cU)
Looking that up, seems to be DeSantis started that in September, well after Trump was strongly pushing against general lockdowns.
My read on things is that Trump was hoping to position himself as a "reasonable voice" to get bluer states out of lockdown. If he'd taken the right-most position on all of it, the blue states would've dug in their heels.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:45 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: That damnable orange tyrant at November 17, 2023 02:45 PM (CjGGv)
Yeah, that sounds totally legit and not at all a controlled candidate. Because gosh darn it, her ideas are just that good.
I doubt anyone with an accounting degree at BlackRock has ever been within 10,000 meters of Larry Fink.
Posted by: Azathoth at November 17, 2023 02:46 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2023 02:46 PM (9Qja5)
I live in Tennessee. We weren't ordered to shutter businesses by the federal government.
We never even missed a church service during the pandemic.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Aye
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 02:46 PM (MwlPL)
Damn it all, I already said I liked him. Stop trying to sell me!
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 17, 2023 02:46 PM (4PZHB)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 17, 2023 02:46 PM (B1FKF)
You don't have to sell it to me! I'm already on board.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (k6uu5)
I did in 2016.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (krQz2)
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Yes.
The whole Trump v. DeSantis thing is completely academic for me. Oregon's primary is so late that the issue will be decided by then. Whoever wins will be getting my vote in the national.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:45 PM (eYoxG)
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Then let them dig in. They dug in anyway.
At best, it was a grave miscalculation and more likely it was genuinely bad decision-making. Either way, I think he needs to speak to his mistakes during COVID and explain what he learned and why he's not likely to make similar decisions in the future. This *is* a problem for Trump from his own side, and he can message his way out of it but I think he does need to do that messaging.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (d04cU)
I thought there was a rule of no metric system on the blog?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (JCZqz)
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See that's how Democrats save you time--they'll tell you what you were thinking!
Because they are all mind-readers (vastly inferior style of argument)--every freaking one.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (fwDg9)
Part-time and summer jobs had my net worth over $5,000 when I got out of high school in the 70's.
That, and the lack of a steady girlfriend to drain the accounts weekly. (sigh)
Posted by: Auspex at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (JrojV)
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It could be worse. He could have spelled it the Eurofag way instead of the proper American way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Azathoth at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (wb1YC)
.......
Well within the Margin of Cheat for ol' Gavbaby.
Posted by: wth at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (v0R5T)
-Uniparty
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (+cIkI)
Heard a story out of Philly today about a dude who stuck someone up but victim didn't have any cash. So he/they blindfolded him and drove him from one ATM to another, withdrawing cash at each. They got his plate and Mr Genius is in county lockup now on two million dollar bail. Charge? Kidnapping.
I don't think I'll need to see a photograph to confirm my suspicions.
Posted by: Cliff Clavin at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (enJYY)
1. Trump's name stricken from the ballot in key states.
2. Trump in jail.
3. Trump under double-secret indictment by the DOJ.
4. War with Russia making elections just impossible, darn it.
Posted by: Auspex at November 17, 2023 02:35 PM (j4U/Z)
Trump is going to jail. It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not, the Deep State wants him in jail, so he's going to jail. God Almighty could show up at his trial and proclaim that this man has done nothing wrong, and they'd still throw him in jail. I worry about his safety in jail, and what's going to happen to us once he's out of the way.
Posted by: pookysgirl, born cynic at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (MwlPL)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:45 PM (eYoxG)
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Then let them dig in. They dug in anyway.
At best, it was a grave miscalculation and more likely it was genuinely bad decision-making. Either way, I think he needs to speak to his mistakes during COVID and explain what he learned and why he's not likely to make similar decisions in the future. This *is* a problem for Trump from his own side, and he can message his way out of it but I think he does need to do that messaging.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (d04cU)
Trump lost control of the narrative war on Covid pretty early on. Most our candidates tend to get overrun by the media, Trump had been the exception until then.
I think part of the problem is that even today running openly against the MRNA treatment will probably cost votes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (eYoxG)
........
Of course she does.
Posted by: wth at November 17, 2023 02:50 PM (v0R5T)
That's the excuse, and the problem.
He could have been Trump The Great, had he said "fuck the second term, I have to do what is right for the country."
Instead he said "It is vital that I get a second term to do all the things I failed at in the first."
He still may be the best man for 2024, but that flaw has to be acknowledged. He did not believe in what he was doing, but he did it anyway.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:42 PM (OgoSU)
Well said. And just to add, as with so many other ways, he was misled on this issue by advisors who weren't really on his team. The greatest flaw of his administration was not seeing until it was too late, who his enemies were inside the perimeter.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 02:50 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 17, 2023 02:50 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
It was WORSE than a lie. It was the truth.
And they can never forgive him for that.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:50 PM (OgoSU)
Posted by: Max Power at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (q177U)
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Has anyone polled the blank ballots on pallets in the counting rooms of big cities in swing states yet? That might get a more accurate read on the state of play in the presidential election contest.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (fs1hN)
The weekend is here
Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2023 02:48 PM (fwDg9)
Enjoy it !
Posted by: JT at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (T4tVD)
T-rump.
Bumper stickers that just say: Dinosaur Butt.
With a tasteful American flag wrapped around a T-Tex.
Posted by: out of the rhombus thinking at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (CjGGv)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver
DU is always a few hours behind AoS. I expect they'll have some discussions later on these polls, and say "they oversampled Rs", "you can't trust Fox, they're Reich Wing", "Putin skewed the results "...they even still trot out the "landlines and cell phones" canard.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (JCZqz)
Did you know that Gavin plays the saxophone and wears boxers?
California Gov. Gavin Newsom leads Trump 59% to 35%
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (+cIkI)
Posted by: Lateesha Keesha Meesha Queen of NY and beyond at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (tdAgY)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (rJ48h)
......
Throw in mass deportations to seal the deal.
Posted by: wth at November 17, 2023 02:52 PM (v0R5T)
Now, because nobody has to address the obvious flaws in their arguments in DC, Schiff could not have doubted that Trump could not be corrupt, because Trump had campaigned on "draining the Swamp", a metaphor for corruption in DC.
But again, nobody demands consistency in DC rhetoric. Because most of the people are too corrupt or stupid to know what consistency sounds like when it's getting the guy they want got.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:52 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 02:52 PM (vezcz)
.......
Well within the Margin of Cheat for ol' Gavbaby.
Nah. Most of those votes are Californians who want to foist him off on the rest of us.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (k6uu5)
IBM, Lionsgate, and the European Commission previously suspended all ads on Twitter. Now Apple joins the list.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (+cIkI)
Posted by: pookysgirl, born cynic at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (dtlDP)
If it was just jail, he'd be safe.
Prison is where people get raped and killed.
Jail is just a holding cell BEFORE you go to Prison.
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 02:47 PM (JrojV)
You only get to use the metric system if you aren't planning to go to the Moon
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (XMwZJ)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 02:51 PM (rJ48h)
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Um. They did that in 2017.
Or don't you remember how #Resisting the office vested in ALL executive power was so popular for all the people who felt that Trump was "illegitimate".
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (krQz2)
I swear I have not had a toenail fungus ad since having three of my toenails yanked 8 months ago and it's kinda freaking me out.
Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2023 02:43 PM
Don't question the system. It works.
Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (enJYY)
What's the excuse?
Posted by: Ian S. at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: pookysgirl, born cynic
Ewww! That confirms his guilt as a Christo-Fascist white male! Guilty, guilty, guilty!!!!
Posted by: Dem Jurors at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (JCZqz)
@disclosetv
NEW - Palestinian flag is flown from the Tower of Pisa, Italy.
https://tinyurl.com/2r33t8s9
Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2023 02:54 PM (NpAcC)
His initial knee jerk was to call the whole thing a hoax, which was greeted with great derision among his critics.
But in the end, he succumbed to the siren song of the 'experts', which, if I'm fair, I probably would have fallen prey to as well with people whispering "Mr. President, 50 million may die if you're wrong" in my ear.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:54 PM (gmL84)
Posted by: Fetterman's lump at November 17, 2023 02:54 PM (tFnut)
Posted by: creeper at November 17, 2023 02:55 PM (cTCuP)
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Well, Emperor Xi was just in town, rite?
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 02:55 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (MwlPL)
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Thank you.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:55 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (krQz2)
No.
The idea that government discretion or authority should be at its maximum whenever we are least well-informed is a recipe for tyranny. On the contrary, if the government cannot justify an action with data, it should not be taking it. "We have to do something," "we must act now," "it's an emergency" without real information is how the bill of rights gets done in.
Posted by: out of the rhombus thinking at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (CjGGv)
____
Unless my memory is faulty, someone explain to me why he was telling Gov Kemp that he was opening up Georgia to early.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Bob from NSA
Then I shouldn't be getting ads for "Hot Young Asians" in my area since I've already met both of them.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (Bd6X8)
Things must be pretty bad on the other side
Posted by: ET at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (uNnTf)
Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (tA1/w)
https://tinyurl.com/2r33t8s9
Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2023 02:54 PM (NpAcC)
.......
Bomb the fucking thing, it's falling over anyway.
Posted by: wth at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 02:52 PM (vezcz)
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There were even those among the Horde talking about spraying their Amazon packages and such with Lysol and wiping down groceries with Clorox wipes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: ET at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (uNnTf)
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Hunter?
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: BurtTC
Yeah, he was under enormous pressure to tank the US economy. In fact, he held up pretty well and it is easy to say "he should have fired,..." but at the moment it is very difficult since he was not an epidemiologist or deeply knowledgeable about any of what he needed to know and ALL the "experts" were lying.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (OgoSU)
His initial knee jerk was to call the whole thing a hoax, which was greeted with great derision among his critics.
But in the end, he succumbed to the siren song of the 'experts', which, if I'm fair, I probably would have fallen prey to as well with people whispering "Mr. President, 50 million may die if you're wrong" in my ear.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 02:54 PM (gmL84)
There was also the international stampede going on. While Trump avoided being the source of lockdown orders and a bunch of emergency expansion of executive powers, as had been originally demanded by the media, it seems like a tough position to not one's views marginalized. Like HCQ and the bleach drinking bit.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (eYoxG)
. . . from a cannon on the WH lawn.
Posted by: Next2Nothing
...into the sun.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (JCZqz)
Things must be pretty bad on the other side
Posted by: ET at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (uNnTf)
Even on Rock's own vanity project TV show where the whole plot is that he was running for President, he lost.
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 02:58 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (krQz2)
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Malenkov: When I piss, I try to look an officer in the eye. Ruins their day.
Beria: When I piss, I piss*on* and officer. Also ruins their day.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 02:59 PM (ScR16)
No.
The idea that government discretion or authority should be at its maximum whenever we are least well-informed is a recipe for tyranny. On the contrary, if the government cannot justify an action with data, it should not be taking it. "We have to do something," "we must act now," "it's an emergency" without real information is how the bill of rights gets done in.
Posted by: out of the rhombus thinking at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (CjGGv)
In that regards Trump should be credited for his very public refusal to make this a federal/national managed crisis.
But what we're talking about is a failure in controlling the narrative.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:59 PM (eYoxG)
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He didn't have to. He appointed Dr. Atlas (I think thats his name) to advise. Fauci ignored and isolated him. Pence was supposed to be running it. Trump could have sidelined Fauci and put Atlas in charge.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:59 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (DRSnL)
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My wife read first-hand descriptions from people on how they would take off their work clothes on their porch or vestibule and put them into a garbage bag (as if they hadn't been right on their bodies minutes before) and get all new clothes before they came in the house.
No doubt about it, Covid let the hypochondriacs' freak flag fly.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:59 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (fs1hN)
I answered that above. He and Kemp hate each other; it was an attack of convenience for Trump. He never criticized Noem who never locked down (the only state as far as I know)… if he was all in on lockdowns he would’ve come down on Noem. That was generic Kemp hate…. And well directed as events of Nov-Dec 2020 would prove
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (vezcz)
Things must be pretty bad on the other side
Honestly, their best candidate is probably somebody like Tom Hanks. Universally loved, women would swoon, and he would be just as malleable as Joey Shitpants.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (k6uu5)
Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (YRK4R)
Posted by: Redenzo at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (zFWR1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (+cIkI)
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Unless my memory is faulty, someone explain to me why he was telling Gov Kemp that he was opening up Georgia to early.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (fs1hN)
Afaik that's generally regarded as some sort of personal beef between Kemp and Trump.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:01 PM (eYoxG)
My thought too. Horde mind again.
If Haley were nominated, she'd be demoinzed even before she gave her acceptance speech.
I'm no Romney fan or McCain fan, but before those races even started, the DEMs had convinced every lofo voter in America that Romney was headed to prison for financial crimes, and McCain was a dangerous lunatic.
Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 17, 2023 03:01 PM (NLIak)
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:01 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 02:52 PM (vezcz)
The other night I was watching DragonBall Z Abridged and Goku shows up, with "I'm insane. From Earth." as part of his intro speech (it's supposed to be Super Saiyan, but this is Goku we're talking about). And I thought, "Yeah, Earth has driven us all insane, buddy."
Posted by: pookysgirl can't recommend DBZ Abridged strongly enough at November 17, 2023 03:01 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: BurtTC
Pence chief among them.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 02:53 PM (+cIkI)
Certainly on Covid. In other ways though, Barr was the worst, and in others still, Esper and the Joint Chiefs.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (fs1hN)
Afaik that's generally regarded as some sort of personal beef between Kemp and Trump.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:01 PM (eYoxG)
The beef started when Trump badmouthed him on Covid...that was the day the hatred was born...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (exHjb)
Which is why it was the perfect op to use against Trump, who is also a hypochondriac.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (2ocoG)
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Well, Emperor Xi was just in town, rite?
Posted by: Puddinhead
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Xi's got his finger's in America's pie.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (MwlPL)
Rob Reiner
@robreiner
If you vote for anyone but Joe Biden, you are voting to destroy American Democracy.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (NpAcC)
And am not trusting polling as there's entirely too much political theater going on, for example: AP, yesterday, Longtime Israeli policy foes are leading US protests against Israel’s action in Gaza. Who are they?
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Reportedly, mostly the Jewish Voice for Peace; IfNotNow, and Students for Justice in Palestine
@ IfNotNowOrg twitter / X
In an interview with @politico, @ Eva Borgwardt explained why hundreds of protestors from 3 before mentioned groups showed up at the DNC this week: to demand Biden and Democrats listen to the overwhelming majority of their base who want a #CeasefireNow.
It begins with the question, "why not target Republicans who have been more hawkish and supportive of Israel's military campaign than Biden?
We're being played. Biden, Fetterman, Hillary, Newsome, Schumer, the Squad, universities, yada, yada. They're in, they're all in politically, imo of course, and the next platform is in plain view.
BTW "Our side"=few handfuls of people in Congress & a fair Supreme Court Justice or two.
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (k6uu5)
The Rock has a similar voice and skin tone as King Barry, however, and "The Rock" sounds like "Barack".
You may think this is stupid, but it will work on distressingly too many people.
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (sm6Pk)
When I saw countries start to lockdown, I thought "well, the US will never do that...." Then when they did I was stunned into just ignoring the news for weeks. I tuned out. It was like when someone you care about gets addicted to drugs, and as much as you love them, you feel all is lost.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (OgoSU)
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FDR was in early stage 1 or 2 of Biden?
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM (k6uu5)
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Also rumored to be an Epstein island visitor. He'd fit right in.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM (bqazj)
The self-gassers have claimed to be non-white for decades, thinking it's why their Leftist frenz put up with them. They got a rude awakening after the Hamas attack.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM (2ocoG)
No doubt about it, Covid let the hypochondriacs' freak flag fly.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 02:59 PM (krQz2)
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I was behind a guy in a grocery line who was explaining in detail to the cashier how he microwaved his money.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM (ScR16)
https://is.gd/yAayxY
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM (0N1h0)
91 felonies
you know why they are doing this overkill?
because he's not really guilty of all of them, so they have to throw more and more to hope something sticks.
Also, serious ad spending by Dems will happen next year.
And Trump trials.
And the media.
All these margins will erode quickly, unless the economy shits the bed. (Not unpossible)
But in 2012 even that didn't stop Obama. People are insulated.
Posted by: Harun at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (c2WeP)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM (ScR16)
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Now that's just tragically funny.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (krQz2)
Rob Reiner
@robreiner
If you vote for anyone but Joe Biden, you are voting to destroy American Democracy.
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Barbara Streisand and now this guy. Notice, neither has done anything notable in a long, long time.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 02:56 PM (fs1hN)
Afaik that's generally regarded as some sort of personal beef between Kemp and Trump.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:01 PM (eYoxG)
The beef started when Trump badmouthed him on Covid...that was the day the hatred was born...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (exHjb)
As others pointed out, Noem who never locked down is a more obvious target.
Politicians don't usually carry grudges over political shots. Take the usual roster of primary candidates for instance, they don't usually despise their rivals forever despite the abundant mud slinging.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Redenzo
I figure there at least 30 million fraudulent ballots for Joe in 2020. They will be more prepared this time because they know the weak points in the last op.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (+cIkI)
***
She's a creature from the Chamber of Commerce.
Posted by: Azathoth at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (wb1YC)
Politicians don't usually carry grudges over political shots. Take the usual roster of primary candidates for instance, they don't usually despise their rivals forever despite the abundant mud slinging.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (eYoxG)
Noem wasn't in a swing state in the 2020 election.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (exHjb)
He's a germaphobe, which is not the same as being a hypochondriac.
I'm a germaphobe who washes his hands all the time. Which is why I am not a hypochondriac. I was never afraid of getting COVID because I wash my hands so much.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (JrojV)
See you in a few days.
Moviegique will post my Saturday evening movie thread this weekend, but I will be away from the Internet's reach to comment.
Have fun.
Posted by: TJM's phone at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (Ow9BZ)
The self-gassers have claimed to be non-white for decades, thinking it's why their Leftist frenz put up with them. They got a rude awakening after the Hamas attack.
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You think?
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (krQz2)
https://is.gd/yAayxY
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM
Is it bad that I hope she is raped? Should I preemptively denounce myself?
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (bqazj)
https://is.gd/yAayxY
How the hell would they know?
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (rJ48h)
Squishes who think Desantis is too scary.
I'd be okay with her, because she'd stop Biden's bullshit, but she wouldn't do much else.
Also, to be honest, some people are doing well in our economy and system. They probably would not like to see actual change.
Posted by: Harun at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (c2WeP)
SHUT THE FUCK UP! NOBODY LIKES YOU! YOU DEFINE "MEATHEAD!" YOU'RE AS RELEVANT AS WHATEVER MY CAT LEFT ON MY FAVORITE SWEATSHIRT THE OTHER DAY!
Sincerely, so sincerely
Pug
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2023 02:57 PM (DRSnL)
Bret Weinstein and his wife, who got famous for being chased out of Evergreen college over him trying to stand for free speech, on their podcast they talked about wiping down grocery bags and whatnot.
I remember thinking, Bret, no matter how smart you think you are, you're not smart enough to see through this?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (dGCAG)
https://is.gd/6Mokx1
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)
Politicians don't usually carry grudges over political shots. Take the usual roster of primary candidates for instance, they don't usually despise their rivals forever despite the abundant mud slinging.
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Ok, he had a grudge with Kemp. Why would he step all over his let's open up message by criticizing Kemp for actually doing what Trump said he wanted?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: SMFH at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (vGZLX)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (aD39U)
Ummm, you did see these two sentences together, right? Where do you think more liberal retirees from the NE now go (not to mention, Hollywood East)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (exHjb)
Politicians don't usually carry grudges over political shots. Take the usual roster of primary candidates for instance, they don't usually despise their rivals forever despite the abundant mud slinging.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (eYoxG)
Noem wasn't in a swing state in the 2020 election.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (exHjb)
So your thesis is that Kemp has a really sensitive Romneyesque ego?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (eYoxG)
It being Twitter, I'm sure Rob Reiner got quite a negative response.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (RSbhh)
https://is.gd/yAayxY
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM
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Asserting based on what?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Puddinhead
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How old is Podhoretz?
They used to teach that the races were Caucasian, Semitic, Negroid, Mongoloid and that Jews were Semitic.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (MwlPL)
https://is.gd/yAayxY
How the hell would they know?
Posted by: mr tmz
Wish casting.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (Y2tls)
Kemp and Raffensberger facilitated it to teach Trump a lesson.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (2ocoG)
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She's a creature from the Chamber of Commerce.
Posted by: Azathoth at November 17, 2023 03:04 PM (wb1YC)
Remember 2008, when everyone around these parts were saying there's no way McCain will get the nomination? Remember 2012? Anyone but Romney?
Yeah.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (dGCAG)
Politicians don't usually carry grudges over political shots. Take the usual roster of primary candidates for instance, they don't usually despise their rivals forever despite the abundant mud slinging.
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Ok, he had a grudge with Kemp. Why would he step all over his let's open up message by criticizing Kemp for actually doing what Trump said he wanted?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (fs1hN)
Trump is pretty frequently inconsistent in his messaging. So that's just him being opportunistic.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (JrojV)
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It doesn't matter, the "whitest" of ethnic Jews are just Semitic hybrids of the same stock as the more pure-Semitic people of the Middle East.
This would just be about "purer blood", instead of ethnicity.
Do the progs really want to take a cause on about pure blood? (Of course, they are too stupid to distill this anyway)
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM
I LOVE this line. If you don't vote the way I think, you're destroying democracy! It's the dumbest line that's repeated over and over. OK Rob, If you don't give me all your money you want me to starve. Fork it over fuckface.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (bqazj)
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (exHjb)
So your thesis is that Kemp has a really sensitive Romneyesque ego?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (eYoxG)
Is it not obvious that both Kemp and Trump have that type of ego and one slight will make you dead to each other forever?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (rJ48h)
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Magic 8-ball.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (aD39U)
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Florida quit being a swing state for one reason and one reason only: they reformed elections to make cheating just a little bit harder.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (d04cU)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (JrojV)
She must take them off immediately.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (aD39U)
The shoe that has still not dropped is this -
Everyone was exposed to each variant as it spread. Wave after wave, 100% of public was exposed even though only a few got sick.
The lockdowns, masking, isolation,... were a total waste.
I have closely analyzed the data and this is irrefutable.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (OgoSU)
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The power of blue shithole cities with Teachers Unions.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (ntk8v)
https://is.gd/6Mokx1
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) "
She's a little bit big for her britches. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Posted by: fd at November 17, 2023 03:09 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: chicago vota at November 17, 2023 03:10 PM (Ba5VG)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (rJ48h)
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Their "lived experience" of clairvoyance.
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 03:10 PM (krQz2)
Semitic was never considered a race. It's a linguistic term only.
The traditional races when I was a kid were Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid, American Indian, and Australian Aborigine.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:10 PM (JrojV)
I dread the news today, oh boy
About a yucky man who swayed and strayed
And though the news was rather sad
Well, I just had to laugh
I sniffed the Chief of Staff
He blew his mind out in a bar;
He didn't notice that the drugs had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his face before
Nobody was really sure if he'd come from the House of Whores
I saw a film today, oh boy;
The Afghan army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
But I just had to look
Having 10% took
I'd love to turn kids on
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 17, 2023 03:11 PM (pGv7z)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 17, 2023 03:02 PM (2ocoG)
No, he's a germaphobe, there's a difference.
Posted by: pookysgirl, pedantically being a pedant at November 17, 2023 03:11 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:10 PM (JrojV)
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*African Bushmen have entered the chat*
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:11 PM (ScR16)
Woke up, fell out of bed
Dragged my plugs across my head
Fell my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up, I noticed I was late
Fucked my dog and sniffed my cat
Made the can in seconds flat
Fell my way upstairs and had a toke
And somebody spoke and I went into a dream
Ah I dread the news today, oh boy
Four thousand moles in DOD and State
And though the moles would rather ball
They had to count them all
Now they know how many moles it takes to fill the Congress Hall
I'd love to turn kids on
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 17, 2023 03:11 PM (pGv7z)
Don't get me wrong, Covid was a real illness, people really got sick as shit and died from it. But the response was wholly out of proportion and lies were spread to goose the hysteria.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (+cIkI)
https://is.gd/6Mokx1
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)
Yo...YO!
dat is not a phat azzz
Posted by: Sir Mix-a-Lot at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (rJ48h)
Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2023 03:06 PM (rJ48h)
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Their "lived experience" of clairvoyance.
Posted by: Axeman
No one could be unwilling to be forcibly rogered by a poor, oppressed Palestinian! It would be so hot, steamy and dreamy!
Posted by: Sarah Jama at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 02:44 PM (k6uu5)
Ehhh, I don't know. I'm RFK-curious, and I know others who are as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (mj0Qp)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:10 PM (JrojV)
When I was in school, it was all of those except American Indian. That wasn't mentioned at all.
Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:05 PM (exHjb)
So your thesis is that Kemp has a really sensitive Romneyesque ego?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:07 PM (eYoxG)
Is it not obvious that both Kemp and Trump have that type of ego and one slight will make you dead to each other forever?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (exHjb)
It's rather obvious that Trump doesn't give a shit about what's been said in the past. He flips easily between effusive praise and a barrage of insults depending on the current circumstances. He fully embraces the notion that talk is cheap, if anything he treats talk as free.
The man practically tongue-bathes people who he's trying to get to do something. He's also doesn't give away stuff for free(such as the tariffs on Russia).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2023 03:00 PM
He's a runner. Swooning was when Harry met Sally. Old Tom now has dual citizenship with Greece.
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: Nova Local at November 17, 2023 03:08 PM (exHjb)
Yes. That’s why it’s equally obvious Trump’s attacking Kemp wasn’t really about lockdowns.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (vezcz)
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My understanding is the Phoenicians were Caucasians. The Persians were as well. There is evidence that the Egyptians were also. The Mid East is like a four loop clover leaf of races.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Sarah Jama
It's true. All women secretly dream of violent, dusky-hued men taking them vigorously.
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Cheri at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (aD39U)
Which means that 'support' is gone the very second somebody else is running against her.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 17, 2023 03:14 PM (Qt4kF)
American Indians are mostly Mongoloid.
https://is.gd/180Q29
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 03:14 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: XTC
Actually, I think you're right. American Indians were considered Mongoloid. But I think later they were separated out as their own race.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:14 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 17, 2023 03:14 PM (XMwZJ)
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 17, 2023 03:15 PM (padVH)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at November 17, 2023 03:15 PM (+cIkI)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:15 PM (ScR16)
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On the most important issue of the day, getting the country to open up, get back to something more normal and improve the economy before the election, and Trump stepped on his message just to fire a shot at Kemp. Seems like a pretty stupid thing to do, no?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (MwlPL)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 02:49 PM (eYoxG)
Yes. Telling people they let themselves be poisoned will not go over well.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (YRK4R)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent
That was obviously a false-flag video created and distributed by shape-shifting Jews, utilizing their monopoly on the media!!!
Posted by: Canadian Rape Apologist Professors at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Axeman at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (krQz2)
Putting aside whatever you think of @POTUS, it is time for him to step aside and allow other candidates to emerge.
The argument before was: “He is the only one who can beat @realDonaldTrump.” Recent polling makes it increasingly clear that he will lose to Trump. The polls will only get worse as he deteriorates and the risk in the world increases.
A growing number of liberal Democrats that I know who would never vote for Trump ‘over their dead body’ have recently told me that if the election were held today and the choice was Biden or Trump, they would vote for Trump.
https://tinyurl.com/3v776t5d
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (krqg6)
And they invented the amazing window blinds we still enjoy today.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (gmL84)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA
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There was a lot going on down in Georgia including close to home murder. KA BOOM
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (MwlPL)
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Pluto can't walk erect and talk thus he was demoted in status within the cosmos.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (ntk8v)
The "Hospitals overrun" stories were known to be BS at the time. They are that bad on a really bad flu season. It is the nature to have limited empty beds and a very small uptick will overwhelm them.
But the media wanted hysteria to tank the economy.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (OgoSU)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (fs1hN)
Salena Zito…. Literally… seriously…. Some assembly required. This is who Trump is and has been. Why is it surprising??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (vezcz)
The Ceasefire Rabbis did a Torah reading. The reader came a part of the Torah that talked about the land being given to the avos and literally whispered that part. Then during the translation, they said, "I'm skipping a lot of parts here" and didn't translate that part.
https://is.gd/Cm8B1u
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (0N1h0)
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On the most important issue of the day, getting the country to open up, get back to something more normal and improve the economy before the election, and Trump stepped on his message just to fire a shot at Kemp. Seems like a pretty stupid thing to do, no?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (fs1hN)
Possibly. For whatever reason it always worked for him in the past. I think it's pretty clear he lost the narrative war on Covid, but we should keep in mind that his track record of regularly winning narrative wars was unusual.
And it's not because he changed tactics, the way he communicated has been the same throughout.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (aD39U)
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Heard about what happened to Pluto--that's messed up!
Posted by: Burton Guster at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (krQz2)
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That happens a lot.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (OgoSU)
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The giveaway for me was the shitstorm that erupted when PDT mentioned HCQ as a hopeful possibility for treatment.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (ScR16)
They just want a piece of the pie.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (GZgcn)
Posted by: L
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Tom is like a box of chocolates.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2023 03:18 PM (XeU6L)
The lockdowns, masking, isolation,... were a total waste.
I have closely analyzed the data and this is irrefutable.
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A total waste? No my soon to be bug eating friend. It laid the groundwork to Build Back Better.
Posted by: WEF at November 17, 2023 03:19 PM (fs1hN)
Unelectable? Trump is on course to win 2024 with 292 electoral college votes to Joe Biden's 246, according to Multilevel Regression and Poststratification (MRP) modelling. He beats Kamala Harris and California's Gavin Newsom even more badly: thenationalpulse.com/2023/11…
Major Statistical Analysis Shows Trump Beating Biden OR Newsom in 2024, While DeSantis Would Suffer...
Former President Donald Trump is on course to win the 2024 presidential election with 292 electoral college votes to Joe Biden‘s 246, according to a major new study Multilevel Regression and Postst...
https://tinyurl.com/42s9rd72
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 17, 2023 03:19 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: Cheri at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (oiNtH)
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Remember the vaccinations (the real ones) you got in elementary school (polio and the like)? In my school they had a real doctor come in with a support staff of a handful of nurses...and they had a freakin metal gun that distributed all the vaccinations at the same time. You ended up with a little circle on your arm with 2 or 3 needle marks.
Posted by: Orson at November 17, 2023 03:19 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at
Same. Never hears of Semitic race. Was that taught in hitler U??
Posted by: runner at November 17, 2023 03:19 PM (oU40p)
Posted by: Fat Chris at November 17, 2023 03:20 PM (qIjx1)
Posted by: Canadian Rape Apologist Professors at November 17, 2023 03:16 PM (JCZqz)
That is actually pretty much what Piers Corbyn, Jeremy Corbyn's brother, actually told a journalist.
https://is.gd/5e84DP
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2023 03:20 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 03:17 PM (OgoSU)
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The giveaway for me was the shitstorm that erupted when PDT mentioned HCQ as a hopeful possibility for treatment.
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He should of simply referred to DARPAs Risk Assessment that stated nothing need be done since the mitigation strategy was known: Ivermectin and Protect the Weak. HCQ did not deliver as expected. Ivermectin did. DARPA is smart and generally honest.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:20 PM (ntk8v)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: runner at November 17, 2023 03:19 PM (oU40p)
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It comes from 19th Century race theory idiots like Gobineau, who conflated race with language groups. I guess they thought "anti-Jewish" sounded less sexy than "anti-Semitic."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (qpLSv)
And they invented the amazing window blinds we still enjoy today.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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It is comments like this that draw me to this landscape of iniquity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 17, 2023 03:13 PM (ntk8v)
Yeah, I mean, it depends on how you define it.
If we're just going by hair / skull / etc., then there are generally three races -- mongoloid, Caucasoid, and negroid.
In that classification, arabs and jews are white.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (mj0Qp)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at
Same. Never hears of Semitic race. Was that taught in hitler U??
Posted by: runner at November 17, 2023 03:19 PM (oU40p)
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As you go back in time toward the beginning of the 20th century, the scientists talked of over 200 "races".
Posted by: Burton Guster at November 17, 2023 03:21 PM (krQz2)
See me at 259.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 17, 2023 03:12 PM (JrojV)
The worst part about the Horde Mind is that whenever you make a great point, someone's already made it ahead of you.
Posted by: pookysgirl needs to workon her refresh-monkey skills at November 17, 2023 03:22 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 17, 2023 03:22 PM (BdMk6)
The giveaway for me was the shitstorm that erupted when PDT mentioned HCQ as a hopeful possibility for treatment.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea,
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and
"I was treated with monoclonal antibodies and I feel ten years younger"
_Donald J. Trump
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 03:23 PM (MwlPL)
https://is.gd/Cm8B1u
Posted by: bonhomme
Yada, yada, yada. Just hire Jason Alexander to read verse.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 17, 2023 03:23 PM (R4t5M)
https://is.gd/yAayxY
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2023 03:03 PM
Sure. That poor young woman lying dead in the back of a pickup nude wasn't raped. Sure. And that other young woman pulled out of the back of a XUV who had blood stains where her body orifices are wasn't touched either.
Sarah Jama and every other denialists are as guilty as the Hamasshole animals.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 17, 2023 03:23 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Puddinhead
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We should all be Caucasians and get it over with.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2023 03:24 PM (MwlPL)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 17, 2023 03:24 PM (15lwl)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 17, 2023 03:22 PM (BdMk6)
I look forward to watching this on the YT. This is still a proof of concept flight - which they aren't trying to recover the booster or the starship. But think about it - 34 rocket engines firing at launch. That's what you call a BFR.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 17, 2023 03:25 PM (N39Ws)
And, yes, Pluto was a planet then. But when asked as kids, we'd simply identify ourselves as Americans. Neighborhoods would be broken down further into Jewish, Polish, Black, Chinese, etc.
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 17, 2023 03:27 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 17, 2023 03:29 PM (15lwl)
Our current models all assume that if you are exposed, you will become infected. There is a little leeway there but not much.
It turns out that exposure does not mean detectable infection. The reason people don't get infected is because the genetics of the person, or virus, are incompatible in some way, or because their immune system handled it without leaving a measurable trace in the blood. So for each wave only a few percent of population got infected but everyone was exposed. Over and over.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 17, 2023 03:30 PM (OgoSU)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 17, 2023 03:33 PM (Ndje9)
Did you notice, Overstock bought what was left of Bed Bath et Beyond, just to get the name? They are trumpeting that new name all over. I liked Overstock, and laughed up the sleeve at Bed Bath, so there are parts of marketing I shall never understand.
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